From betsy at python.org  Wed Sep 30 21:50:38 2015
From: betsy at python.org (Betsy Waliszewski)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 12:50:38 -0700
Subject: [Bundle-sponsorship-wg] PROPOSAL: International PyCon Sponsorship
	Bundles
Message-ID: <CAKMnukr416qAXW245PjQt10nZ73mnqvgJ3K5rceHTGKDVsYHpQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I've shared with you a draft proposal for an International PyCon
Sponsorship Bundle. For this proposal, I chose to offer just one bundle.
This way, it should be more easily managed than the original proposal put
together by the committee. We could use it as a trial to gauge corporate
interest.

It may already be too late to offer this for 2016, but I wanted to continue
the conversation anyway, since I know this is a challenging project.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WHjrQ_pD8-7H_r68Y-EYKldUsZUe2FWuuvVdr52O1jY/edit#

Thanks for the opportunity to work on this.

Betsy
-- 
Betsy Waliszewski
Python Software Foundation
Event Coordinator / Administrator
@betswaliszewski
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From ewa at python.org  Wed Sep 30 22:37:55 2015
From: ewa at python.org (Ewa Jodlowska)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 13:37:55 -0700
Subject: [Bundle-sponsorship-wg] PROPOSAL: International PyCon
	Sponsorship Bundles
In-Reply-To: <CAKMnukr416qAXW245PjQt10nZ73mnqvgJ3K5rceHTGKDVsYHpQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CADx+GQPmM8SrXP8H4+Q5+3q+4tdg6rr_V7C=5O1ah5iN5=DBfQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Betsy -

Start out with one bundle for 2016, initially launching it as an invitation
> only pilot program. Include conferences of >1,000 attendees. We can test
> the waters to see what the interest is.


IMO, this pilot trial is very limited and only helps conferences who
already do not need help with sponsorship meanwhile PyCon Ukraine, Python
Namibia, etc do. Even though this process may seem like the goal is to make
it easy for large corporations to sponsor PyCons, I do think that we also
have to add the goal of helping smaller conferences get sponsorships.

How do you foresee this continuing after the pilot phase?

Best regards,

Ewa
Director of Operations
Python Software Foundation
Cell: 415-319-5237

On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Betsy Waliszewski <betsy at python.org>
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I've shared with you a draft proposal for an International PyCon
> Sponsorship Bundle. For this proposal, I chose to offer just one bundle.
> This way, it should be more easily managed than the original proposal put
> together by the committee. We could use it as a trial to gauge corporate
> interest.
>
> It may already be too late to offer this for 2016, but I wanted to
> continue the conversation anyway, since I know this is a challenging
> project.
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WHjrQ_pD8-7H_r68Y-EYKldUsZUe2FWuuvVdr52O1jY/edit#
>
> Thanks for the opportunity to work on this.
>
> Betsy
> --
> Betsy Waliszewski
> Python Software Foundation
> Event Coordinator / Administrator
> @betswaliszewski
>
> _______________________________________________
> Bundle-sponsorship-wg mailing list
> Bundle-sponsorship-wg at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bundle-sponsorship-wg
>
>
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From betsy at python.org  Wed Sep 30 22:35:01 2015
From: betsy at python.org (Betsy Waliszewski)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 13:35:01 -0700
Subject: [Bundle-sponsorship-wg] PROPOSAL: International PyCon
	Sponsorship Bundles - Invitation to edit
In-Reply-To: <560C3F79.4010308@python.org>
References: <3b402a43-65b4-4fcc-b7fb-657fa8b3d58b@docs-share.google.com>
 <001a113ee8dac6ecb70520fc199a@google.com>
 <560C3F79.4010308@python.org>
Message-ID: <CAKMnukr7p7AU9aZLkDRXQx8oRu_QphpgyXHJqS9FG4oH4jcDJQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Yes, Ewa shared the first 3 documents with me. The original prospectus is
wonderfully complete, but also very complicated. I'm not sure how we would
be able to manage those kinds of offerings with our small staff. That's why
I took a stab at creating something smaller and more manageable.

I understand your point about not being able to offer a discount to other
conferences. However, if we're able to get larger companies to participate
in the non-PSF conferences with our bundle, the non-PSF event organizers
may *want* to offer discounts. The benefit to them is that we're bringing
more attention to their events (resulting in more sponsorship $$) and by
being "the middle man" we make coordination easier for them.

That being said, we don't have to offer discounts. And I wasn't suggesting
removing the administration fee - just including that cost in the
sponsorship fee.

What do you think of the bundle itself? The benefits came directly from the
original sponsorship document you sent.

Betsy



On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 1:00 PM, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at python.org> wrote:

> Hi Betsy,
>
> the document uses an older concept which had already been discussed
> and replaced with a different one: we cannot force conference
> organizers into giving the PSF discounts on their packages;
> instead we need to sell the packages to sponsors by leveraging
> on the PSF providing the middle man simplifying the procurement
> process and charging a fee for this.
>
> See the other documents we've used for this:
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ltVSWtYw2tCCf4T3JXlbdWKJwW1Cu_wuKpul5LFOspQ/edit#
>
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IbdC5o4Xxzw-XHZDOefdWj9LtIuoczZLWvSOzrUTPPA/edit?pli=1#gid=0
>
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jzIaHupfK5s1uNoRTtu7b01XlJ1YalgbQGVrCwOc4bI/edit?pli=1#gid=0
>
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1U-flnypQx6_qIrFFr0m_fEgJqIMOPHmwO9uSQRfwqSI/edit#gid=631162788
>
> --
> Marc-Andre Lemburg
> Director
> Python Software Foundation
> http://www.python.org/psf/
> http://www.malemburg.com/
>
> On 30.09.2015 21:40, Betsy Waliszewski (via Google Docs) wrote:
> > I've shared an item with you:
> >
> > PROPOSAL: International PyCon Sponsorship Bundles
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WHjrQ_pD8-7H_r68Y-EYKldUsZUe2FWuuvVdr52O1jY/edit?usp=sharing&invite=CPSi5uYE&ts=560c3aa3
> >
> >
> > It's not an attachment -- it's stored online. To open this item, just
> click the link above.
> >
> > This a draft, so please comment.
> >
>
>


-- 
Betsy Waliszewski
Python Software Foundation
Event Coordinator / Administrator
@betswaliszewski
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From betsy at python.org  Wed Sep 30 22:51:45 2015
From: betsy at python.org (Betsy Waliszewski)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 13:51:45 -0700
Subject: [Bundle-sponsorship-wg] PROPOSAL: International PyCon
	Sponsorship Bundles
In-Reply-To: <CADx+GQPmM8SrXP8H4+Q5+3q+4tdg6rr_V7C=5O1ah5iN5=DBfQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKMnukr416qAXW245PjQt10nZ73mnqvgJ3K5rceHTGKDVsYHpQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CADx+GQPmM8SrXP8H4+Q5+3q+4tdg6rr_V7C=5O1ah5iN5=DBfQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKMnukqC7dCS6W8jW=e8T9mJ0ANBZ6NnH0QCdRiOxSX68306+w@mail.gmail.com>

I definitely like the idea of helping out the smaller conferences and would
put together another bundle with that in mind. IMO, it's important to see
if there's corporate interest first before spending more time creating
bundles that may not sell. Potential sponsors have to make sure that their
$$ are well-spent and that the ROI is worth the cost.

Ideally, it would be good to get feedback ahead of time from companies we
think might be interested to see what they want. Without that, we could end
up creating what we* think *they want, not what they *actually* want. Do we
have any intel on that?

Betsy

On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Ewa Jodlowska <ewa at python.org> wrote:

> Hi Betsy -
>
> Start out with one bundle for 2016, initially launching it as an
>> invitation only pilot program. Include conferences of >1,000 attendees. We
>> can test the waters to see what the interest is.
>
>
> IMO, this pilot trial is very limited and only helps conferences who
> already do not need help with sponsorship meanwhile PyCon Ukraine, Python
> Namibia, etc do. Even though this process may seem like the goal is to make
> it easy for large corporations to sponsor PyCons, I do think that we also
> have to add the goal of helping smaller conferences get sponsorships.
>
> How do you foresee this continuing after the pilot phase?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Ewa
> Director of Operations
> Python Software Foundation
> Cell: 415-319-5237
>
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Betsy Waliszewski <betsy at python.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've shared with you a draft proposal for an International PyCon
>> Sponsorship Bundle. For this proposal, I chose to offer just one bundle.
>> This way, it should be more easily managed than the original proposal put
>> together by the committee. We could use it as a trial to gauge corporate
>> interest.
>>
>> It may already be too late to offer this for 2016, but I wanted to
>> continue the conversation anyway, since I know this is a challenging
>> project.
>>
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WHjrQ_pD8-7H_r68Y-EYKldUsZUe2FWuuvVdr52O1jY/edit#
>>
>> Thanks for the opportunity to work on this.
>>
>> Betsy
>> --
>> Betsy Waliszewski
>> Python Software Foundation
>> Event Coordinator / Administrator
>> @betswaliszewski
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bundle-sponsorship-wg mailing list
>> Bundle-sponsorship-wg at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bundle-sponsorship-wg
>>
>>
>


-- 
Betsy Waliszewski
Python Software Foundation
Event Coordinator / Administrator
@betswaliszewski
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