From glen at glenjarvis.com  Sun Feb  5 18:54:52 2017
From: glen at glenjarvis.com (Glen Jarvis)
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 15:54:52 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] http://baypiggies.net/job-listings is down
Message-ID: <CA+UBrj5BuieWn95D7th_xTuRSsusEBwVXbZMLMQY9PDwmh-O_A@mail.gmail.com>

Bill and Jeff,

I just noticed the jobs-listing part of BayPIGgies.net is down. This may be
from the re-structuring on Pelican.

David Choi was asking me if we allowed job posting from employers looking
to hire Data Engineers. I was going to include the link to the
/job-listings in my reply - and that's how I noticed it was down.

We refer to this link in our mailman info page:

https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies

*Before posting any job ad to the list, make sure to read the policy
at http://baypiggies.net/job-listings <http://baypiggies.net/job-listings>;
this page may also be used to post job ads on the baypiggies.net
<http://baypiggies.net> website.*
I've carbon copied the baypiggies at python.org list so that everyone was
aware that we are aware it's down.  But, we can resolve this "offline" so
we don't spam everyone's inbox.

Do you need me to do anything? Let me know.

Cheers,


Glen Jarvis
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From bill at baddogconsulting.com  Sun Feb  5 19:23:31 2017
From: bill at baddogconsulting.com (William Deegan)
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 16:23:31 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] http://baypiggies.net/job-listings is down
In-Reply-To: <CA+UBrj5BuieWn95D7th_xTuRSsusEBwVXbZMLMQY9PDwmh-O_A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+UBrj5BuieWn95D7th_xTuRSsusEBwVXbZMLMQY9PDwmh-O_A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAH_m2YL6yYw5j41jmP8==jTtVKVOC93GRtLfNCa-nT3-T60xMw@mail.gmail.com>

Glen,

Yes. Indeed it didn't get migrated.

We can probably do pull requested based posting and just supply the
appropriate tag on the page.
Then put a top level menu for it?

-Bill

On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Glen Jarvis <glen at glenjarvis.com> wrote:

> Bill and Jeff,
>
> I just noticed the jobs-listing part of BayPIGgies.net is down. This may
> be from the re-structuring on Pelican.
>
> David Choi was asking me if we allowed job posting from employers looking
> to hire Data Engineers. I was going to include the link to the
> /job-listings in my reply - and that's how I noticed it was down.
>
> We refer to this link in our mailman info page:
>
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies
>
> *Before posting any job ad to the list, make sure to read the policy
> at http://baypiggies.net/job-listings <http://baypiggies.net/job-listings>;
> this page may also be used to post job ads on the baypiggies.net
> <http://baypiggies.net> website.*
> I've carbon copied the baypiggies at python.org list so that everyone was
> aware that we are aware it's down.  But, we can resolve this "offline" so
> we don't spam everyone's inbox.
>
> Do you need me to do anything? Let me know.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Glen Jarvis
>
> _______________________________________________
> Baypiggies mailing list
> Baypiggies at python.org
> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies
>
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From bill at baddogconsulting.com  Sun Feb  5 19:38:31 2017
From: bill at baddogconsulting.com (William Deegan)
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 16:38:31 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] http://baypiggies.net/job-listings is down
In-Reply-To: <CAH_m2YL6yYw5j41jmP8==jTtVKVOC93GRtLfNCa-nT3-T60xMw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+UBrj5BuieWn95D7th_xTuRSsusEBwVXbZMLMQY9PDwmh-O_A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH_m2YL6yYw5j41jmP8==jTtVKVOC93GRtLfNCa-nT3-T60xMw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAH_m2YJchx_0qPENQtwrDcu+qCqW=ze4m_T8svv+yg7Z5Uwchw@mail.gmail.com>

Or we could point at a google form and then syphon the data out of the
spreadsheet to auto generate the markdown/rst file(s)..


On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 4:23 PM, William Deegan <bill at baddogconsulting.com>
wrote:

> Glen,
>
> Yes. Indeed it didn't get migrated.
>
> We can probably do pull requested based posting and just supply the
> appropriate tag on the page.
> Then put a top level menu for it?
>
> -Bill
>
> On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Glen Jarvis <glen at glenjarvis.com> wrote:
>
>> Bill and Jeff,
>>
>> I just noticed the jobs-listing part of BayPIGgies.net is down. This may
>> be from the re-structuring on Pelican.
>>
>> David Choi was asking me if we allowed job posting from employers looking
>> to hire Data Engineers. I was going to include the link to the
>> /job-listings in my reply - and that's how I noticed it was down.
>>
>> We refer to this link in our mailman info page:
>>
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies
>>
>> *Before posting any job ad to the list, make sure to read the policy
>> at http://baypiggies.net/job-listings <http://baypiggies.net/job-listings>;
>> this page may also be used to post job ads on the baypiggies.net
>> <http://baypiggies.net> website.*
>> I've carbon copied the baypiggies at python.org list so that everyone was
>> aware that we are aware it's down.  But, we can resolve this "offline" so
>> we don't spam everyone's inbox.
>>
>> Do you need me to do anything? Let me know.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>> Glen Jarvis
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Baypiggies mailing list
>> Baypiggies at python.org
>> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies
>>
>
>
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From glen at glenjarvis.com  Sun Feb  5 20:23:35 2017
From: glen at glenjarvis.com (Glen Jarvis)
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 17:23:35 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] http://baypiggies.net/job-listings is down
In-Reply-To: <CAH_m2YJchx_0qPENQtwrDcu+qCqW=ze4m_T8svv+yg7Z5Uwchw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+UBrj5BuieWn95D7th_xTuRSsusEBwVXbZMLMQY9PDwmh-O_A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH_m2YL6yYw5j41jmP8==jTtVKVOC93GRtLfNCa-nT3-T60xMw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH_m2YJchx_0qPENQtwrDcu+qCqW=ze4m_T8svv+yg7Z5Uwchw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+UBrj54F5-i0kmL+skCPF+S5bENp6GGfEE31VeziMnXacT46w@mail.gmail.com>

I'm fine with that.

:)

G

On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 4:38 PM, William Deegan <bill at baddogconsulting.com>
wrote:

> Or we could point at a google form and then syphon the data out of the
> spreadsheet to auto generate the markdown/rst file(s)..
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 4:23 PM, William Deegan <bill at baddogconsulting.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Glen,
>>
>> Yes. Indeed it didn't get migrated.
>>
>> We can probably do pull requested based posting and just supply the
>> appropriate tag on the page.
>> Then put a top level menu for it?
>>
>> -Bill
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Glen Jarvis <glen at glenjarvis.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Bill and Jeff,
>>>
>>> I just noticed the jobs-listing part of BayPIGgies.net is down. This may
>>> be from the re-structuring on Pelican.
>>>
>>> David Choi was asking me if we allowed job posting from employers
>>> looking to hire Data Engineers. I was going to include the link to the
>>> /job-listings in my reply - and that's how I noticed it was down.
>>>
>>> We refer to this link in our mailman info page:
>>>
>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies
>>>
>>> *Before posting any job ad to the list, make sure to read the policy
>>> at http://baypiggies.net/job-listings <http://baypiggies.net/job-listings>;
>>> this page may also be used to post job ads on the baypiggies.net
>>> <http://baypiggies.net> website.*
>>> I've carbon copied the baypiggies at python.org list so that everyone was
>>> aware that we are aware it's down.  But, we can resolve this "offline" so
>>> we don't spam everyone's inbox.
>>>
>>> Do you need me to do anything? Let me know.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>>
>>> Glen Jarvis
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Baypiggies mailing list
>>> Baypiggies at python.org
>>> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies
>>>
>>
>>
>
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From jeffrey.fischer at gmail.com  Mon Feb  6 13:18:10 2017
From: jeffrey.fischer at gmail.com (Jeff Fischer)
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 10:18:10 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] http://baypiggies.net/job-listings is down
In-Reply-To: <CA+UBrj54F5-i0kmL+skCPF+S5bENp6GGfEE31VeziMnXacT46w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+UBrj5BuieWn95D7th_xTuRSsusEBwVXbZMLMQY9PDwmh-O_A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH_m2YL6yYw5j41jmP8==jTtVKVOC93GRtLfNCa-nT3-T60xMw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH_m2YJchx_0qPENQtwrDcu+qCqW=ze4m_T8svv+yg7Z5Uwchw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CA+UBrj54F5-i0kmL+skCPF+S5bENp6GGfEE31VeziMnXacT46w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPFNg_0VgU6nii89Rtoznr71Rq3oLC3jbvvPMZ0JnEoNZBig_g@mail.gmail.com>

I'm fine either way. I don't have spare cycles for the next few days -
maybe one of you can get this going?

Bill, can you push up the latest website code - we'd like to get the
February meeting up. Thanks!

Regards,
Jeff

On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 5:23 PM, Glen Jarvis <glen at glenjarvis.com> wrote:

> I'm fine with that.
>
> :)
>
> G
>
> On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 4:38 PM, William Deegan <bill at baddogconsulting.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Or we could point at a google form and then syphon the data out of the
>> spreadsheet to auto generate the markdown/rst file(s)..
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 4:23 PM, William Deegan <bill at baddogconsulting.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Glen,
>>>
>>> Yes. Indeed it didn't get migrated.
>>>
>>> We can probably do pull requested based posting and just supply the
>>> appropriate tag on the page.
>>> Then put a top level menu for it?
>>>
>>> -Bill
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Glen Jarvis <glen at glenjarvis.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bill and Jeff,
>>>>
>>>> I just noticed the jobs-listing part of BayPIGgies.net is down. This
>>>> may be from the re-structuring on Pelican.
>>>>
>>>> David Choi was asking me if we allowed job posting from employers
>>>> looking to hire Data Engineers. I was going to include the link to the
>>>> /job-listings in my reply - and that's how I noticed it was down.
>>>>
>>>> We refer to this link in our mailman info page:
>>>>
>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies
>>>>
>>>> *Before posting any job ad to the list, make sure to read the policy
>>>> at http://baypiggies.net/job-listings <http://baypiggies.net/job-listings>;
>>>> this page may also be used to post job ads on the baypiggies.net
>>>> <http://baypiggies.net> website.*
>>>> I've carbon copied the baypiggies at python.org list so that everyone was
>>>> aware that we are aware it's down.  But, we can resolve this "offline" so
>>>> we don't spam everyone's inbox.
>>>>
>>>> Do you need me to do anything? Let me know.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Glen Jarvis
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Baypiggies mailing list
>>>> Baypiggies at python.org
>>>> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Baypiggies mailing list
> Baypiggies at python.org
> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies
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From jeffrey.fischer at gmail.com  Mon Feb  6 13:23:11 2017
From: jeffrey.fischer at gmail.com (Jeff Fischer)
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 10:23:11 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Video from January's talk up on YouTube
Message-ID: <CAPFNg_3uMnHQbQM6r1WObXRVkKgxrYevx8AJOQKxDJzRc0jJRw@mail.gmail.com>

The video from Charles Merriam's talk "A Journey through Python" is now up:
https://youtu.be/W-n_Q2peq2M.

Thanks to Josh and the LinkedIn A-V team for getting the talk to us. Of
course, thanks to Charles for an excellent talk. If you haven't seen the
talk, I recommend it -- this talk is a lot of fun. If you are new to
Python, you will learn a lot. If you are more experienced, you will leave
with a renewed appreciation about why you liked Python in the first place.

Regards,
Jeff
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From bdbaddog at gmail.com  Mon Feb  6 13:40:21 2017
From: bdbaddog at gmail.com (William Deegan)
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 10:40:21 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] http://baypiggies.net/job-listings is down
In-Reply-To: <CAPFNg_0VgU6nii89Rtoznr71Rq3oLC3jbvvPMZ0JnEoNZBig_g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+UBrj5BuieWn95D7th_xTuRSsusEBwVXbZMLMQY9PDwmh-O_A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH_m2YL6yYw5j41jmP8==jTtVKVOC93GRtLfNCa-nT3-T60xMw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH_m2YJchx_0qPENQtwrDcu+qCqW=ze4m_T8svv+yg7Z5Uwchw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CA+UBrj54F5-i0kmL+skCPF+S5bENp6GGfEE31VeziMnXacT46w@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAH_m2Y+p1J+iJDKEsUubwQcF=so_AUeyhTg+-ZeW=kWLdZ5TPw@mail.gmail.com>

Jeff,

Site updated.
sorry for the delay got lost in the return from vacation shuffle.

-Bill

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 10:18 AM, Jeff Fischer <jeffrey.fischer at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I'm fine either way. I don't have spare cycles for the next few days -
> maybe one of you can get this going?
>
> Bill, can you push up the latest website code - we'd like to get the
> February meeting up. Thanks!
>
> Regards,
> Jeff
>
> On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 5:23 PM, Glen Jarvis <glen at glenjarvis.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm fine with that.
>>
>> :)
>>
>> G
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 4:38 PM, William Deegan <bill at baddogconsulting.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Or we could point at a google form and then syphon the data out of the
>>> spreadsheet to auto generate the markdown/rst file(s)..
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 4:23 PM, William Deegan <
>>> bill at baddogconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Glen,
>>>>
>>>> Yes. Indeed it didn't get migrated.
>>>>
>>>> We can probably do pull requested based posting and just supply the
>>>> appropriate tag on the page.
>>>> Then put a top level menu for it?
>>>>
>>>> -Bill
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Glen Jarvis <glen at glenjarvis.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Bill and Jeff,
>>>>>
>>>>> I just noticed the jobs-listing part of BayPIGgies.net is down. This
>>>>> may be from the re-structuring on Pelican.
>>>>>
>>>>> David Choi was asking me if we allowed job posting from employers
>>>>> looking to hire Data Engineers. I was going to include the link to the
>>>>> /job-listings in my reply - and that's how I noticed it was down.
>>>>>
>>>>> We refer to this link in our mailman info page:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies
>>>>>
>>>>> *Before posting any job ad to the list, make sure to read the policy
>>>>> at http://baypiggies.net/job-listings <http://baypiggies.net/job-listings>;
>>>>> this page may also be used to post job ads on the baypiggies.net
>>>>> <http://baypiggies.net> website.*
>>>>> I've carbon copied the baypiggies at python.org list so that everyone
>>>>> was aware that we are aware it's down.  But, we can resolve this "offline"
>>>>> so we don't spam everyone's inbox.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you need me to do anything? Let me know.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Glen Jarvis
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Baypiggies mailing list
>>>>> Baypiggies at python.org
>>>>> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Baypiggies mailing list
>> Baypiggies at python.org
>> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Baypiggies at python.org
> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
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From jeffrey.fischer at gmail.com  Mon Feb  6 13:42:08 2017
From: jeffrey.fischer at gmail.com (Jeff Fischer)
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 10:42:08 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] http://baypiggies.net/job-listings is down
In-Reply-To: <CAH_m2Y+p1J+iJDKEsUubwQcF=so_AUeyhTg+-ZeW=kWLdZ5TPw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+UBrj5BuieWn95D7th_xTuRSsusEBwVXbZMLMQY9PDwmh-O_A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH_m2YL6yYw5j41jmP8==jTtVKVOC93GRtLfNCa-nT3-T60xMw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAH_m2YJchx_0qPENQtwrDcu+qCqW=ze4m_T8svv+yg7Z5Uwchw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CA+UBrj54F5-i0kmL+skCPF+S5bENp6GGfEE31VeziMnXacT46w@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAPFNg_1POAt-9ZqBjWj_5bQJ6ZiF7hw6j2=mGtD8Sso5W7F1Tg@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks! Looks great.
- Jeff

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 10:40 AM, William Deegan <bdbaddog at gmail.com> wrote:

> Jeff,
>
> Site updated.
> sorry for the delay got lost in the return from vacation shuffle.
>
> -Bill
>
> On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 10:18 AM, Jeff Fischer <jeffrey.fischer at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I'm fine either way. I don't have spare cycles for the next few days -
>> maybe one of you can get this going?
>>
>> Bill, can you push up the latest website code - we'd like to get the
>> February meeting up. Thanks!
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jeff
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 5:23 PM, Glen Jarvis <glen at glenjarvis.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm fine with that.
>>>
>>> :)
>>>
>>> G
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 4:38 PM, William Deegan <
>>> bill at baddogconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Or we could point at a google form and then syphon the data out of the
>>>> spreadsheet to auto generate the markdown/rst file(s)..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 4:23 PM, William Deegan <
>>>> bill at baddogconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Glen,
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes. Indeed it didn't get migrated.
>>>>>
>>>>> We can probably do pull requested based posting and just supply the
>>>>> appropriate tag on the page.
>>>>> Then put a top level menu for it?
>>>>>
>>>>> -Bill
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Glen Jarvis <glen at glenjarvis.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill and Jeff,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just noticed the jobs-listing part of BayPIGgies.net is down. This
>>>>>> may be from the re-structuring on Pelican.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David Choi was asking me if we allowed job posting from employers
>>>>>> looking to hire Data Engineers. I was going to include the link to the
>>>>>> /job-listings in my reply - and that's how I noticed it was down.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We refer to this link in our mailman info page:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Before posting any job ad to the list, make sure to read the policy
>>>>>> at http://baypiggies.net/job-listings <http://baypiggies.net/job-listings>;
>>>>>> this page may also be used to post job ads on the baypiggies.net
>>>>>> <http://baypiggies.net> website.*
>>>>>> I've carbon copied the baypiggies at python.org list so that everyone
>>>>>> was aware that we are aware it's down.  But, we can resolve this "offline"
>>>>>> so we don't spam everyone's inbox.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you need me to do anything? Let me know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Glen Jarvis
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Baypiggies mailing list
>>>>>> Baypiggies at python.org
>>>>>> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Baypiggies mailing list
>>> Baypiggies at python.org
>>> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Baypiggies mailing list
>> Baypiggies at python.org
>> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies
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From dchoi at clarity-us.com  Tue Feb  7 13:22:38 2017
From: dchoi at clarity-us.com (David Choi)
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2017 10:22:38 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Job Posting from Clarity Solution Group - Senior Data
 Engineer (Bay Area)
Message-ID: <CAHP=29MW_WVuJdzQZ6xZffZgVQjOn5hxsXOsfZ5zC3nH=3Ld0A@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings Baypiggies,

Clarity Solution Group is hiring for talented Data Engineers here in the
Bay Area.  Please see our job description below.  For more opportunities,
please click here: Clarity Big Data Jobs
<https://clarity-us.com/big-data-jobs/>



*Job description*





*SENIOR DATA ENGINEER - San Francisco-Bay Area *

*Role *At Clarity, a *Senior Data Engineer*, has the ability to drive the
architectural decision making process, lead technical teams, and is also
capable and enthusiastic about implementing every aspect of an architecture
themselves.

*Responsibilities*

?        Hands-on self-directed engineer who enjoys working in
collaborative teams.

?        Data transformation engineer who is able to:

?        Design and develop highly scalable, end to end process to consume,
integrate and analyze large volume, complex data from sources such as Hive,
Flume or Kafka.

?        Integrate datasets and flows using a variety of open source and
best-in-class proprietary software.

?        Work with business stakeholders and data SMEs to elicit
requirements and develop real-time business metrics, analytical products
and analytical insights.

?        Profile and analyze complex and large datasets.

?        Collaborate and validate implementation with other technical team
members.



*Skills*

?        Experience building processes around data transformation, data
structures, metadata, dependency and workload management with Python is
required.

?        Strong SQL experience analyzing, transforming and integrating high
volume, complex data sources with considerations for accuracy and efficient
performance.

?        Experience transforming data out of and into Hadoop/Hive is
preferred.

?        Fluency in Linux development and common development-related
configuration tasks.

?        Experience with custom ETL solutions in a Data Warehousing
environment.

?        Experience integrating and transforming data on MPP platforms such
as Teradata, Netezza, Greenplum, Redshift, ParAccel, etc.

?        Expertise creating efficient data structures with considerations
for distribution, segmentation, colocation, etc., for ELT and analysis
access paths; understanding of data management concepts such as 3NF,
Dimensional, Data Vault, NoSQL/Key-value and their applications for data
management and analysis.

?        Ability to analyze high volume data against business requirements
to identify deliverables, gaps and inconsistencies.

?        Passion to build business driven, data solutions regardless of
technology.

?        Excellent communication skills with the ability to identify and
communicate data driven insights and technical approach.

?        Ability to contribute independently and self-manage delivery in a
collaborative environment.

?        *Candidates must be comfortable with local commute within the
SF-Bay Area.*

?        *At this time, we are only considering candidates interested in
full-time employment who do not require visa sponsorships or transfers.*




*Clarity Solution Group is an Equal Employment Opportunity Employer *

*We believe in treating each employee and applicant for employment fairly
and with dignity. We base our employment decisions on merit, experience,
and potential, without regard to race, color, national origin, sex, sexual
orientation, gender identity, marital status, age, religion, disability,
veteran status, or any other characteristic prohibited by federal, state or
local law. DC*



For immediate consideration, please email a copy of your resume/CV with
contact details to dchoi at clarity-us.com.
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From Irv at furrypants.com  Wed Feb  8 23:30:07 2017
From: Irv at furrypants.com (Irv Kalb)
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 20:30:07 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Class: Python Programming for Beginners class at
 UCSC-Extension
In-Reply-To: <BA92564C-072B-4E8B-8CA2-D88D091C020F@furrypants.com>
References: <700DD572-A94E-429D-B316-728ED72114B7@furrypants.com>
 <BA92564C-072B-4E8B-8CA2-D88D091C020F@furrypants.com>
Message-ID: <FC431F14-6CCF-4FFA-956F-F654CF38AA47@furrypants.com>

Hello,

I will be teaching a course called ?Python Programming for Beginners? at University of California Santa Cruz - Extension.  (New facility in Santa Clara.)  The course is designed for people with no previous programming experience and teaches basic programming concepts using Python.  I have developed my own curriculum for this class, and I?ve received consistent feedback from students that they enjoyed the class while learning a great deal.  

The course meets on six Monday nights from 6:30 to 9:30, first meeting is Feb 13th.  Very hands-on - lots of sample programs.  

Sign ups are open to the general public and there is still time to register.  The course fee is $580 (many companies will reimburse the cost of courses at UCSC-Extension).  More details are available at:  

   http://course.ucsc-extension.edu/modules/shop/index.html?action=section&OfferingID=3576274&SectionID=5279157 <http://course.ucsc-extension.edu/modules/shop/index.html?action=section&OfferingID=3576274&SectionID=5277738>

If you have any questions, free to contact me directly at I <mailto:Irv at furrypants.com>Kalb at ucsc.edu <mailto:Kalb at ucsc.edu> 

Feel free to forward this listing on to anyone that you think might be interested.

Irv
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From jeffrey.fischer at gmail.com  Fri Feb 10 12:39:50 2017
From: jeffrey.fischer at gmail.com (Jeff Fischer)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 09:39:50 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Upcoming talks and a call for speakers at BayPiggies
Message-ID: <CAPFNg_0sFY5DK6F4Ar9xVFchRsFr1xQ_XW_oNPE8=-oa4BKXUg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi everyone,
BayPiggies got off to a great 2017 with our January talk. We have two
exciting talks coming up:

   - February 23 - Melanie Goetz, a Senior Data Scientist at Clover Health,
   will give a talk on Python and Data Science
   - March 23 - Alex Martelli will give a talk on Testing in Layers

Once I have abstracts, I will pass them on to the list.

As Glen mentioned at the last meeting, we are attempting to schedule the
talks to follow a quarterly cycle:

   - Month 1 (January, April, July, October) - Beginner-focused talk
   - Month 2 (February, May, August, November) - Data science talk
   - Month 3 (March, June, September, December) - Experienced developer
   talk or a "world famous" speaker

If one month is not interesting for you, hopefully the next month in the
cycle will be your cup of tea. For speakers, we will try to slot you in
based on this schedule.

We are planning a few multi-talk nights for the upcoming year. For these,
we'd like to recruit multiple speakers for 30 minute (or so) talks. This is
a great opportunity if you are new to public speaking or would like to talk
about something more experimental. Please contact us if you might like to
talk at one of these events. Thanks!

*April 27 - Annual PyCon preview*
If you have an accepted talk at PyCon 2017, we'd love to have you speak. We
will also have some time for lightning talks.

*May 25 - Data Science Night*
We would like to have multiple talks about data science topics. We have one
speaker lined up, and would like one or two more.

*July or October - Documentation Night*
If you have a talk related to Python and Documentation, we would love to
have you speak. We have a talk on Sphinx and a short talk on Pelican
scheduled. If you would like to give a talk, here's some ideas:

   - In-code documentation: doc-strings and comments
   - Navigating the Python documentation
   - Documenting your module on PyPi and Github

Regards,
Jeff and Glen
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From mparker at energy-solution.com  Mon Feb 13 15:02:34 2017
From: mparker at energy-solution.com (Marla Parker)
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 20:02:34 +0000
Subject: [Baypiggies] job postings?
Message-ID: <DM5PR10MB18046AE7CBF5BB6C2820CD8FF1590@DM5PR10MB1804.namprd10.prod.outlook.com>

I'm about to send a job posting to this group, but first a question: is this still the correct way to post jobs?


On http://baypiggies.net/category/job-listings.html I see one nicely formatted job posted, but I cannot find anything on the meetup About page nor the baypiggies.net home page about how one might post a job there, nor if anyone would notice it if I did. [?]


TIA,

Marla


BayPIGgies Bay Area Python Interest Group<http://baypiggies.net/category/job-listings.html>
baypiggies.net
BayPIGgies Bay Area Python Interest Group


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From bdbaddog at gmail.com  Mon Feb 13 16:49:26 2017
From: bdbaddog at gmail.com (William Deegan)
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 13:49:26 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] job postings?
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Marla,

We're working on something easier, but for the time being you can make a
pull request with a markdown formatted job posting.

https://github.com/BayPiggies/pelican_website/tree/master/content/job_postings

Please use the existing document as a template and change the date and
author,etc.


-Bill

On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 12:02 PM, Marla Parker <mparker at energy-solution.com>
wrote:

> I'm about to send a job posting to this group, but first a question: is
> this still the correct way to post jobs?
>
>
> On http://baypiggies.net/category/job-listings.html I see one nicely
> formatted job posted, but I cannot find anything on the meetup About page
> nor the baypiggies.net home page about how one might post a job there,
> nor if anyone would notice it if I did. [image: ?]
>
>
> TIA,
>
> Marla
>
>
> BayPIGgies Bay Area Python Interest Group
> <http://baypiggies.net/category/job-listings.html>
> baypiggies.net
> BayPIGgies Bay Area Python Interest Group
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Baypiggies mailing list
> Baypiggies at python.org
> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
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From mparker at energy-solution.com  Tue Feb 14 15:13:54 2017
From: mparker at energy-solution.com (Marla Parker)
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 20:13:54 +0000
Subject: [Baypiggies] program for cleantech - various levels
Message-ID: <DM5PR10MB1804D7D61A56CD0FD62A8213F1580@DM5PR10MB1804.namprd10.prod.outlook.com>

Energy Solutions is hiring python developers.  Most of the Software Engineer 2 job posted on the energy-solution.com/company/careers/ page, in the Information Systems group, is copied below.

It says 3-6 years experience, but we are actually open to more senior staff, also.  If these uncertain times inspire you to do something to "make a difference" during your day job hours, then please consider using your tech skills to help us fight climate change. We are an energy efficiency consultancy with a small software group building web apps to support efficiency and renewable programs developed by the (super awesome) energy geeks in the rest of the company.

With you on our team, we will provide our clients with custom-designed enterprise web applications that are the backbone to some of the nation?s largest renewable and energy efficiency programs, which in turn help reduce greenhouse gas emissions and the carbon footprint of the energy sector. With your outstanding full-stack development skills and our deep experience in the industry, we will build robust, scalable applications and continue to lead the way in developing leading software applications for energy program management and data-driven energy policy.

As part of this team, you will:

Collaborate with your colleagues to create technical and functional project requirements
Review functional requirements and create implementation specifications
Design, develop, and document web-based enterprise software applications
Establish and maintain high quality test procedures
Identify system deficiencies and recommend practical solutions


Minimum Qualifications:

Three to six years of relevant professional experience
Team player with excellent communication and interpersonal skills
Demonstrated, strong experience developing in Python
Fluency working with Django
Comfort working across the full technology stack
Experience writing Javascript; bonus for experience with modern MV* frameworks
Perfectly comfortable at a SQL prompt and a bash prompt

Remote developers may be considered, though it is best if you are close enough to an office (Oakland, Orange, Boston) to go in on a somewhat regular basis.

Bonus book recommendation about this space: The Grid: The Fraying Wires Between Americans and Our Energy Future, by Gretchen Bakke, July 2016.


Marla Parker | Senior Information Systems Manager

mparker at energy-solution.com | (510) 482-4420 x278



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From clewis222 at me.com  Wed Feb 15 23:14:40 2017
From: clewis222 at me.com (C. Lewis)
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 20:14:40 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Python tutorials, books, references
Message-ID: <754A7825-DF6A-4AAF-9B3B-CFEEE091F075@me.com>

Is there a forum for discussing good sources of information or maybe even tutorials for intermediate or advanced Python programmers? Books even?
Thanks!

From jjinux at gmail.com  Wed Feb 15 23:18:25 2017
From: jjinux at gmail.com (Shannon -jj Behrens)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 04:18:25 +0000
Subject: [Baypiggies] Python tutorials, books, references
In-Reply-To: <754A7825-DF6A-4AAF-9B3B-CFEEE091F075@me.com>
References: <754A7825-DF6A-4AAF-9B3B-CFEEE091F075@me.com>
Message-ID: <CAB0XCvYfTLg6nSaQbzd9bPXomHVrGJn2b6Z-bzXSzTGAv9qSvw@mail.gmail.com>

The best thing that I know of is to go to a lot of meetups and skim through
all the most interesting talks from PyCon. Do that for a few years, in
addition to using it daily, and you'll be set. Also, attending some of
Raymond Hettinger's talks and courses is a good approach.

On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 8:14 PM C. Lewis <clewis222 at me.com> wrote:

> Is there a forum for discussing good sources of information or maybe even
> tutorials for intermediate or advanced Python programmers? Books even?
> Thanks!
> _______________________________________________
> Baypiggies mailing list
> Baypiggies at python.org
> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
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From rodrigc at freebsd.org  Wed Feb 15 23:47:30 2017
From: rodrigc at freebsd.org (Craig Rodrigues)
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 20:47:30 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Python tutorials, books, references
In-Reply-To: <CAB0XCvYfTLg6nSaQbzd9bPXomHVrGJn2b6Z-bzXSzTGAv9qSvw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <754A7825-DF6A-4AAF-9B3B-CFEEE091F075@me.com>
 <CAB0XCvYfTLg6nSaQbzd9bPXomHVrGJn2b6Z-bzXSzTGAv9qSvw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAG=rPVcH6A8eUsBgi1PMpaDfksB6HCcP67xtGzDq-QGDR==Lsg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I agree with everything Shannon wrote.  I will add a few of the sources of
information that I follow these days:

   - http://pyvideo.org and Youtube have a lot of good videos.  Look for
   all videos coming from PyCon.  They are amazing
   - there are some nice podcasts:
      - https://pythonbytes.fm/
      - https://www.podcastinit.com/
      - https://talkpython.fm/
   - Sometimes I find interesting articles on http://reddit.com/r/python ,
   but not always

Python is used in so many different domains these days, so it is quite easy
to be overloaded with information.
--
Craig


On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 8:18 PM, Shannon -jj Behrens <jjinux at gmail.com>
wrote:

> The best thing that I know of is to go to a lot of meetups and skim
> through all the most interesting talks from PyCon. Do that for a few years,
> in addition to using it daily, and you'll be set. Also, attending some of
> Raymond Hettinger's talks and courses is a good approach.
>
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 8:14 PM C. Lewis <clewis222 at me.com> wrote:
>
>> Is there a forum for discussing good sources of information or maybe even
>> tutorials for intermediate or advanced Python programmers? Books even?
>> Thanks!
>>
>
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From bbrelin at gmail.com  Sat Feb 18 14:24:20 2017
From: bbrelin at gmail.com (Braun Brelin)
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2017 20:24:20 +0100
Subject: [Baypiggies] Converting ipython notebooks to pdf
Message-ID: <CAJ2OvpgWZkoWP-vgs-O44AJSXjt9SaXVR373UVS7xoGGFnTBAg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all,

I have an ipython notebook that I want to convert to PDF.  Mostly it works,
except for the embedded HTML tables that I have in the notebook.  The PDF
outputter ignore those so I end up with horribly formatted output.

I tried converting to HTML first, and then PDF, but I'm still not getting
any luck.  The HTML output shows the tables like so:

<table align='left', width='750px'>
<tr>
<td>
<p style='font-family:courier>
some text here
</p>
</td>
</tr>
</table>

But converting it to PDF from the libreoffice convert function doesn't work
either.

Any help appreciated.
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From santosh_philip at yahoo.com  Sat Feb 18 16:41:27 2017
From: santosh_philip at yahoo.com (Santosh Philip)
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2017 21:41:27 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Baypiggies] Converting ipython notebooks to pdf
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2OvpgWZkoWP-vgs-O44AJSXjt9SaXVR373UVS7xoGGFnTBAg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ2OvpgWZkoWP-vgs-O44AJSXjt9SaXVR373UVS7xoGGFnTBAg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1119187138.275744.1487454087439@mail.yahoo.com>

I convert my notebooks to Resturctured text in the following way:
ipython nbconvert --to rst ./*.ipynb

Then I use Sphinx to make them to them html pages or pdf pagesthis may be a potential pathway from notebook to pdf.

Santosh

      From: Braun Brelin <bbrelin at gmail.com>
 To: BayPiggies <baypiggies at python.org> 
 Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2017 11:24 AM
 Subject: [Baypiggies] Converting ipython notebooks to pdf
   
Hello all,?
I have an ipython notebook that I want to convert to PDF.? Mostly it works, except for the embedded HTML tables that I have in the notebook.? The PDF outputter ignore those so I end up with horribly formatted output.?
I tried converting to HTML first, and then PDF, but I'm still not getting any luck.? The HTML output shows the tables like so:
<table align='left', width='750px'><tr><td><p style='font-family:courier>some text here</p></td></tr></table>?But converting it to PDF from the libreoffice convert function doesn't work either.?
Any help appreciated.?

_______________________________________________
Baypiggies mailing list
Baypiggies at python.org
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From jillc at enthought.com  Mon Feb 20 21:20:44 2017
From: jillc at enthought.com (Jill Cowan)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 20:20:44 -0600
Subject: [Baypiggies] SciPy 2017
Message-ID: <CAPuhJ4aMSK3jT+MSPT_2qBRj+A6eccxjzRCDweMbc1KodLyw+g@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Baypiggies,


Mark Your Calendar for SciPy 2017!

July 10-16, 2017 | Austin, Texas

SciPy 2017 Tutorials: July 10-11, 2017
SciPy 2017 Conference: July 12-14, 2017
SciPy 2017 Sprints: July 15-16, 2017

Call for Propsals Is Now Open: Submit your talk, poster and tutorial ideas:
http://scipy2017.scipy.org/ehome/220975/493425/

The deadline for proposals is March 27th for talks and posters ; March 22nd
for tutorials.

Financial aid is accepting applications through April 21st
http://scipy2017.scipy.org/ehome/220975/493436/

Registration will open February 27th. Learn more about the conference at
scipy2017.scipy.org

Hope to see you there!
-- 
Jill Cowan
Enthought, Inc.
jillc at enthought.com
512.536.1057
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From glen at glenjarvis.com  Wed Feb 22 01:16:50 2017
From: glen at glenjarvis.com (Glen Jarvis)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 22:16:50 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Talk this Thursday / Data Science / Turn messy health
 data into insights and decisions
Message-ID: <CA+UBrj6W1eCgUf5HUEkRUO+WEfBfmS==Q=O1it7J2YK-Bv3e-w@mail.gmail.com>

It's that time again. We have our Data Science talk this week:

RSVP:
https://www.meetup.com/BAyPIGgies/events/233454803/

Thursday, February 23, 2017
7:00 PM to 9:00 PM
LinkedIn, Yosemite Room
605 W. Maude Ave, Sunnyvale, CA


Abstract
Productionizing data science often involves a team of scientists
prototyping a statistical model in a language like R followed by a team of
engineers translating and rebuilding that model into a ?production"
language. However, with Python, it?s easy to have your Data Science team
and your Engineering teams working together collaboratively in the same
language. But how does a modular production data science pipeline in Python
look? This talk will cover how the data science pipeline at Clover
automatically turns messy health data into insights and decisions.
Bio
Melanie Goetz is a Data Science Lead at Clover Health, a health insurance
startup in San Francisco. She studied Linguistics and Math/CS at MIT and
dropped out of a CS PhD at UPenn. Previously, she worked at Oracle on
machine learning, at Klout on natural language processing, and at Twitter
on big data ad munging.

Cheers,


Glen
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From shortdudey123 at gmail.com  Thu Feb 23 22:30:03 2017
From: shortdudey123 at gmail.com (Grant Ridder)
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 19:30:03 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Talk attendance numbers for 2017
In-Reply-To: <CAPiURgVAuZpx2X8JBtf32zYFuEg4RsUB2fQbRsP_bmcvYMd6zg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPiURgVAuZpx2X8JBtf32zYFuEg4RsUB2fQbRsP_bmcvYMd6zg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPiURgXJqRDfFffwM8bm+rCaFZcx6U8OjeZ1Su0341YsoZzmqQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Everyone,

Here is the count of how many people attended the talks so far this year

DATE - ATTENDED (YES'S ON MEETUP.COM <http://meetup.com/>)
Jan 26 - 150 (353)
Feb 23 - 120 (342)
Mar 23 -
Apr 27 -
May 25 -
Jun 22 -
Jul
Aug
Sept
Oct
Nov
Dev

-Grant

On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 7:38 PM, Grant Ridder <shortdudey123 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hey Everyone,
>
> Here is the count of how many people attended the talks so far this year
>
> DATE - ATTENDED (YES'S ON MEETUP.COM <http://meetup.com/>)
> Jan 26 - 150 (353)
> Feb 23 -
> Mar 23 -
> Apr 27 -
> May 25 -
> Jun 22 -
> Jul
> Aug
> Sept
> Oct
> Nov
> Dev
>
> -Grant
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From bbrelin at gmail.com  Sun Feb 26 15:55:12 2017
From: bbrelin at gmail.com (Braun Brelin)
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 20:55:12 +0000
Subject: [Baypiggies] Are there any good examples of implementing dependency
 inversion in Python?
Message-ID: <CAJ2Ovpj4RnQg+YJuTQCCEAKzeJbJRU3sV8MBZR5ZyJ6aeuD4Bg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Looking for some good examples of Dependency Inversion in Python.  Anyone
have any suggestions for sites to look at?

Thanks,
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From msabramo at gmail.com  Sun Feb 26 16:24:17 2017
From: msabramo at gmail.com (Marc Abramowitz)
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 13:24:17 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Are there any good examples of implementing
 dependency inversion in Python?
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2Ovpj4RnQg+YJuTQCCEAKzeJbJRU3sV8MBZR5ZyJ6aeuD4Bg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ2Ovpj4RnQg+YJuTQCCEAKzeJbJRU3sV8MBZR5ZyJ6aeuD4Bg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FF22CBB2-FA8E-45D2-B18F-F361B583B59A@gmail.com>

I personally haven't seen that pattern used a ton in Python code, compared to Java where Spring and such tend to be a very big thing. 

The one thing that comes to my mind is the "funcargs" mechanism for fixtures in py.test. 

http://doc.pytest.org/en/latest/fixture.html

Maybe WSGI could also be considered a form of dependency injection?

I have looked for general DI containers on occasions and there are some projects that do that, but I don't think these are very popular. 

-Marc
http://marc-abramowitz.com
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> On Feb 26, 2017, at 12:55 PM, Braun Brelin <bbrelin at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> 
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> 
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From mahmoud at hatnote.com  Sun Feb 26 17:10:43 2017
From: mahmoud at hatnote.com (Mahmoud Hashemi)
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 14:10:43 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Are there any good examples of implementing
 dependency inversion in Python?
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I've got a web microframework with one take on dependency injection:
https://github.com/mahmoud/clastic#dynamic-binding

We used it to great effect at PayPal, but the most recent public use case
was for judging the largest photography competition in the world. Here's
where all the dependencies get sewn together:
https://github.com/hatnote/montage/blob/3f3dd4b61ca191c43de9f4ddf738691175e6adfb/montage/server.py#L134-L169

I was actually quite struck by py.test fixtures when I discovered them,
because the resemblance is a bit uncanny.

Hope that helps!

Mahmoud

On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 1:24 PM, Marc Abramowitz <msabramo at gmail.com> wrote:

> I personally haven't seen that pattern used a ton in Python code, compared
> to Java where Spring and such tend to be a very big thing.
>
> The one thing that comes to my mind is the "funcargs" mechanism for
> fixtures in py.test.
>
> http://doc.pytest.org/en/latest/fixture.html
>
> Maybe WSGI could also be considered a form of dependency injection?
>
> I have looked for general DI containers on occasions and there are some
> projects that do that, but I don't think these are very popular.
>
> -Marc
> http://marc-abramowitz.com
> Sent from my iPhone 6+
>
>
> On Feb 26, 2017, at 12:55 PM, Braun Brelin <bbrelin at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Looking for some good examples of Dependency Inversion in Python.  Anyone
> have any suggestions for sites to look at?
>
> Thanks,
>
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From aleax at google.com  Sun Feb 26 18:54:17 2017
From: aleax at google.com (Alex Martelli)
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 15:54:17 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Are there any good examples of implementing
 dependency inversion in Python?
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I see you're getting answers on dependency *injection* (on which I would
suggest my talk, slides at http://www.aleax.it/yt_pydi.pdf -- unfortunately
I don't know of a video recording of said talk) while you asked about
dependency *inversion* (related, but definitely not the same thing), for
which I don't know of much that's published apart from what a search will
easily find, such as
https://www.lynda.com/Programming-Languages-tutorials/Introduction-dependency-inversion/471978/502206-4.html
.

Alex

On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Braun Brelin <bbrelin at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Looking for some good examples of Dependency Inversion in Python.  Anyone
> have any suggestions for sites to look at?
>
> Thanks,
>
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From mahmoud at hatnote.com  Sun Feb 26 19:04:07 2017
From: mahmoud at hatnote.com (Mahmoud Hashemi)
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 16:04:07 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Are there any good examples of implementing
 dependency inversion in Python?
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It was my impression that inversion and injection were really closely
related, based on various Fowler talks, including this canonical essay:
https://martinfowler.com/articles/injection.html

My main takeaway has always been, pass the low-level implementation _into_
the higher level construct, instead of expecting the higher-level wrapper
to create it for you. This is especially visible in Twisted's
Protocol-based approach, now visible in asyncio, and more broadly all the
sans-io libraries: http://sans-io.readthedocs.io/

For a very basic example, consider this JSONLines (jsonlines.org) iterator:
http://boltons.readthedocs.io/en/latest/jsonutils.html

Rather than doing JSONLIterator('target.jsonl') directly, one would do
JSONLIterator(open('target.jsonl')), passing in the open file object (or
any file-like object). Hope that makes sense!

Mahmoud



On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Alex Martelli via Baypiggies <
baypiggies at python.org> wrote:

> I see you're getting answers on dependency *injection* (on which I would
> suggest my talk, slides at http://www.aleax.it/yt_pydi.pdf --
> unfortunately I don't know of a video recording of said talk) while you
> asked about dependency *inversion* (related, but definitely not the same
> thing), for which I don't know of much that's published apart from what a
> search will easily find, such as https://www.lynda.com/
> Programming-Languages-tutorials/Introduction-dependency-inversion/471978/
> 502206-4.html .
>
> Alex
>
> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Braun Brelin <bbrelin at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Looking for some good examples of Dependency Inversion in Python.  Anyone
>> have any suggestions for sites to look at?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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From aleax at google.com  Sun Feb 26 20:30:35 2017
From: aleax at google.com (Alex Martelli)
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 17:30:35 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Are there any good examples of implementing
 dependency inversion in Python?
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On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 4:04 PM, Mahmoud Hashemi <mahmoud at hatnote.com>
wrote:

> It was my impression that inversion and injection were really closely
> related, based on
>

As I said, related, but not the same thing. Dependency injection, as
covered in my talk, has uses quite apart from inversion of control -- the
example my talk best covers is how to make a scheduler that can cleanly be
unit-tested and/or integrated with some event loop. Mocking (e.g
unittest.mock.patch) can often, so to speak, force a dependency injection
to test code that's not designed with DI in mind -- but, as usual,
"explicit is better than implicit" (clearer and, so to speak, `sharper`)...
and you probably wouldn't want to use such patching outside of a unit-test
(though I did once use it to most-simply graft a `-n` mode [as in `make
-n`] onto an existing utility -- "display all commands you'd execute but
don't execute them"... Michael Foord was quite amused when I challenged him
to come up with a good non-unit-test use of his unittest.mock code, then
revealed that one!-).


Alex


> various Fowler talks, including this canonical essay:
> https://martinfowler.com/articles/injection.html
>
> My main takeaway has always been, pass the low-level implementation _into_
> the higher level construct, instead of expecting the higher-level wrapper
> to create it for you. This is especially visible in Twisted's
> Protocol-based approach, now visible in asyncio, and more broadly all the
> sans-io libraries: http://sans-io.readthedocs.io/
>
> For a very basic example, consider this JSONLines (jsonlines.org)
> iterator: http://boltons.readthedocs.io/en/latest/jsonutils.html
>
> Rather than doing JSONLIterator('target.jsonl') directly, one would do
> JSONLIterator(open('target.jsonl')), passing in the open file object (or
> any file-like object). Hope that makes sense!
>
> Mahmoud
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Alex Martelli via Baypiggies <
> baypiggies at python.org> wrote:
>
>> I see you're getting answers on dependency *injection* (on which I would
>> suggest my talk, slides at http://www.aleax.it/yt_pydi.pdf --
>> unfortunately I don't know of a video recording of said talk) while you
>> asked about dependency *inversion* (related, but definitely not the same
>> thing), for which I don't know of much that's published apart from what a
>> search will easily find, such as https://www.lynda.com/Progr
>> amming-Languages-tutorials/Introduction-dependency-
>> inversion/471978/502206-4.html .
>>
>> Alex
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Braun Brelin <bbrelin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Looking for some good examples of Dependency Inversion in Python.
>>> Anyone have any suggestions for sites to look at?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Baypiggies mailing list
>>> Baypiggies at python.org
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>>
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From bbrelin at gmail.com  Mon Feb 27 05:14:28 2017
From: bbrelin at gmail.com (Braun Brelin)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2017 10:14:28 +0000
Subject: [Baypiggies] Are there any good examples of implementing
 dependency inversion in Python?
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Part of the issue, I think is that Python's duck typing obviates the need
for many (but not all) of the design patterns that are bandied about,
including dependency inversion.

Braun


On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 1:30 AM, Alex Martelli <aleax at google.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 4:04 PM, Mahmoud Hashemi <mahmoud at hatnote.com>
> wrote:
>
>> It was my impression that inversion and injection were really closely
>> related, based on
>>
>
> As I said, related, but not the same thing. Dependency injection, as
> covered in my talk, has uses quite apart from inversion of control -- the
> example my talk best covers is how to make a scheduler that can cleanly be
> unit-tested and/or integrated with some event loop. Mocking (e.g
> unittest.mock.patch) can often, so to speak, force a dependency injection
> to test code that's not designed with DI in mind -- but, as usual,
> "explicit is better than implicit" (clearer and, so to speak, `sharper`)...
> and you probably wouldn't want to use such patching outside of a unit-test
> (though I did once use it to most-simply graft a `-n` mode [as in `make
> -n`] onto an existing utility -- "display all commands you'd execute but
> don't execute them"... Michael Foord was quite amused when I challenged him
> to come up with a good non-unit-test use of his unittest.mock code, then
> revealed that one!-).
>
>
> Alex
>
>
>> various Fowler talks, including this canonical essay:
>> https://martinfowler.com/articles/injection.html
>>
>> My main takeaway has always been, pass the low-level implementation
>> _into_ the higher level construct, instead of expecting the higher-level
>> wrapper to create it for you. This is especially visible in Twisted's
>> Protocol-based approach, now visible in asyncio, and more broadly all the
>> sans-io libraries: http://sans-io.readthedocs.io/
>>
>> For a very basic example, consider this JSONLines (jsonlines.org)
>> iterator: http://boltons.readthedocs.io/en/latest/jsonutils.html
>>
>> Rather than doing JSONLIterator('target.jsonl') directly, one would do
>> JSONLIterator(open('target.jsonl')), passing in the open file object (or
>> any file-like object). Hope that makes sense!
>>
>> Mahmoud
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Alex Martelli via Baypiggies <
>> baypiggies at python.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I see you're getting answers on dependency *injection* (on which I would
>>> suggest my talk, slides at http://www.aleax.it/yt_pydi.pdf --
>>> unfortunately I don't know of a video recording of said talk) while you
>>> asked about dependency *inversion* (related, but definitely not the same
>>> thing), for which I don't know of much that's published apart from what a
>>> search will easily find, such as https://www.lynda.com/Progr
>>> amming-Languages-tutorials/Introduction-dependency-inversion
>>> /471978/502206-4.html .
>>>
>>> Alex
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Braun Brelin <bbrelin at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Looking for some good examples of Dependency Inversion in Python.
>>>> Anyone have any suggestions for sites to look at?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Baypiggies mailing list
>>>> Baypiggies at python.org
>>>> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies
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>>>
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