[Baypiggies] Big changes to the BayPIGgies Meetups

Wed Jan 13 17:12:36 EST 2016

+1

      From: William Deegan <bdbaddog at gmail.com>
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 Subject: Re: [Baypiggies] Big changes to the BayPIGgies Meetups

All,
Sounds like the position of the baypiggies membership is the current meetup of the same name is being run by someone with no authority from the baypiggies community?(http://www.meetup.com/BayPIGgies/)Is that a safe statement?Please respond +1, -1
If the preponderance of answers is +1, I'll add the above statement to the baypiggies.net website.
Thanks,Billbaypiggies.net site administrator
On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 1:07 PM, Don Sheu <dinaldo at gmail.com> wrote:

Hey Martin and Simeon, I'll shoot an email to Ewa Jodlowska and ask for her thoughts on the trademark. 
Tonight, PuPPy member Joel Stanner is streaming our meeting featuring PyCon chair Brandon Rhodes. 
If you're not making it to SF Python's meeting tonight, consider joining us on our live stream, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bghG7zz8G2Iᐧ
On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 12:05 PM, Martin Falatic <martin at falatic.com> wrote:

My goal in starting this thread was to get some clarity on what happened
to the SV/BayPIGgies meetup I enjoyed attending many a good talk at. Since
moving to SF I spend more time at the meetups here (with deep gratitude to
everyone involved in making the SF meetups a success!) but SV is where I
started going to Python meetups and given the notoriously long drive
between the South Bay and SF it serves the community well to have meetups
in SF as well as the South Bay.

That said, as it is right now the current owner of the BayPIGgies Meetup
group is diluting the BayPIGgies brand and that has the effect of dividing
our community. That's not fair to Pythonistas (and proto-Pythonistas) here
- particularly those the South Bay - who are put off by the unwelcome
changes, not to mention the bulk of us who were unaware this happened at
all given the timing of it. It's one thing to help out, but quite another
to usurp a group and rebrand it as your own.

 - Marty

On Wed, January 13, 2016 11:31, Simeon Franklin wrote:
> +1 to this. IANAL so no idea as to whether there are legal grounds to
> complain. But the meetup has no connection to the user group which has
> been operating as BayPiggies since 2005 - it certainly doesn't seem right.
>
>
> If SF Python Meetup can do anything to get the word out I'm happy to help
>  any way I can. Perhaps we can help sourcing speakers too - we have a 3
> person committee sourcing talks now but its mostly Grace Law who knows
> everybody :)
>
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 11:18 AM, Don Sheu <dinaldo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> My group in Seattle's grown a lot faster when we use Meetup.
>>
>>
>> As I mentioned before, if the community's confused because of the
>> Meetup
>> instance there's an trademark issue at stake. It maybe something the PSF
>>  can help with. á §
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 11:04 AM, Tony Cappellini <cappy2112 at gmail.com>
>>  wrote:
>>
>>
>>> If the group gets revived, you can just disregard the Meetup site and
>>>  refer to Baypiggies.net.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 8:41 AM, Martin Falatic <martin at falatic.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> That among other things is what made me start questioning what's
>>>> going on here. And it's not free, it's $5 a head now.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.meetup.com/BayPIGgies/events/227481217/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - Marty
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, January 13, 2016 08:32, Tony Cappellini wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> FYI- Suresh hosted/organized the first (no-charge) Python meetup
>>>>> in
>>>> 2016,
>>>>
>>>>> at the Hacker Dojo in Mtn View on Jan 30th, at 4:30PM. The topic
>>>>> is "Using Python to Analyze Datacubes in Astronomy"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you want to talk with him about the recent changes with the
>>>>> Python
>>>>> Meetup group, you can find him there.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 6:10 PM, Martin Falatic
>>>>> <martin at falatic.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> So I recently got an email saying I needed to pay $20 to stay
>>>>>> in the BayPIGgies Meetup group. Figuring it's been good so far
>>>>>> and not
>>>> knowing
>>>>>> things had significantly changed I paid it. Now I see that
>>>>>> every upcoming Meetup has a fee attached to it as well (and
>>>>>> they're no
>>>> longer
>>>>>> at LinkedIn and they're on odd days of the week - e.g.,
>>>>>> Saturday).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And since when did the acronym change? Is the Meetup group not
>>>>>> related to http://www.baypiggies.net/ and this mailing list now?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What's going on?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Marty
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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