From kelleynnn at gmail.com  Wed Jul  2 08:02:16 2014
From: kelleynnn at gmail.com (Kelley Nielsen)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 23:02:16 -0700
Subject: [Baypiggies] Baypiggies Digest, Vol 104, Issue 17
In-Reply-To: <mailman.39.1404122402.17451.baypiggies@python.org>
References: <mailman.39.1404122402.17451.baypiggies@python.org>
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I could give it a try if there are no other takers. I'd have to learn, but
I'm doing PR for one of my Toastmasters clubs now, so I need to learn
anyway.


On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 3:00 AM, <baypiggies-request at python.org> wrote:

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> Hey everyone,
>
> I brought this up at our meeting on Thursday, but wanted to get a
> conversation started here as well.
>
> I'm working in San Francisco now and won't be able to consistently be at
> LinkedIn in Mountain View by 7:30pm to record our talks.
>
> Here are a few of the perks of being the BayPiggies AV person:
>
> - Increased exposure at meetings (good for networking)
> - Interaction with our speakers
> - Learning a marketable skill (recording and archiving tech talks)
> - Resume builder and good discussion topic for interviews
>
>
> There are two methods I've used to record/archive our talks these past nine
> months:
>
> 1. Record video/audio with the group's camcorder (I have it currently),
> transfer the file to my laptop, then upload it to our YouTube channel
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBJV1sd5XcVhijm13pWfBCg>.
>
> 2. Using a Google Hangout on Air
> <https://support.google.com/plus/answer/2553119?hl=en> to record the
> screen
> and voice of the presenting laptop (which automatically uploads to our
> YouTube channel).
>
> Method two is much easier, and allows us to live stream the talks.
>
> Can anyone volunteer to help out with this moving forward?
>
>
> -James
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From jjinux at gmail.com  Fri Jul  4 03:10:57 2014
From: jjinux at gmail.com (Shannon -jj Behrens)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 18:10:57 -0700
Subject: [Baypiggies] Fwd: jobs listing link on
 https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies should point to
 http://baypiggies.net/job-listings
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From: Hunter Blanks <hunter at napofearth.com>
Date: Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 11:33 AM
Subject: jobs listing link on
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies should point to
http://baypiggies.net/job-listings
To: baypiggies-owner at python.org


Hi,

I was just getting ready to post a job posting to the BayPiggies list when
I realized that the policy link on the mailing list page, as viewed at:

https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies


includes an extraneous index_html segment:

http://baypiggies.net/index_html/job-listings


It seems like the right link is:

http://baypiggies.net/job-listings


Thanks much!

-HJB



-- 
In this life we cannot do great things. We can only do small things with
great love. -- Mother Teresa
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From nicholsonjf at gmail.com  Fri Jul  4 03:25:37 2014
From: nicholsonjf at gmail.com (James Nicholson)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 18:25:37 -0700
Subject: [Baypiggies] Baypiggies Digest, Vol 104, Issue 17
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References: <mailman.39.1404122402.17451.baypiggies@python.org>
 <CADoage2uzi1Ji-oq-u_dYfyM=F5gFuq02WxbPZPUZvE-QaO9Mg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAObTp1581zPgTad+hLKx5=rFr980K5hTyVFHbe+EStPyus7AHQ@mail.gmail.com>

Cool! Are you free to meet sometime over the next couple weeks in Mountain
View, and do you have a laptop you can use for this? I can show you how to
setup a Hangout and start a broadcast.

James Nicholson
nicholsonjf.com


On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 11:02 PM, Kelley Nielsen <kelleynnn at gmail.com> wrote:

> I could give it a try if there are no other takers. I'd have to learn, but
> I'm doing PR for one of my Toastmasters clubs now, so I need to learn
> anyway.
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 3:00 AM, <baypiggies-request at python.org> wrote:
>
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>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2014 18:36:11 -0700
>> From: James Nicholson <nicholsonjf at gmail.com>
>> To: Baypiggies <baypiggies at python.org>
>> Subject: [Baypiggies] BayPiggies AV (audio/video) Person
>> Message-ID:
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>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> Hey everyone,
>>
>> I brought this up at our meeting on Thursday, but wanted to get a
>> conversation started here as well.
>>
>> I'm working in San Francisco now and won't be able to consistently be at
>> LinkedIn in Mountain View by 7:30pm to record our talks.
>>
>> Here are a few of the perks of being the BayPiggies AV person:
>>
>> - Increased exposure at meetings (good for networking)
>> - Interaction with our speakers
>> - Learning a marketable skill (recording and archiving tech talks)
>> - Resume builder and good discussion topic for interviews
>>
>>
>> There are two methods I've used to record/archive our talks these past
>> nine
>> months:
>>
>> 1. Record video/audio with the group's camcorder (I have it currently),
>> transfer the file to my laptop, then upload it to our YouTube channel
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBJV1sd5XcVhijm13pWfBCg>.
>>
>> 2. Using a Google Hangout on Air
>> <https://support.google.com/plus/answer/2553119?hl=en> to record the
>> screen
>> and voice of the presenting laptop (which automatically uploads to our
>> YouTube channel).
>>
>> Method two is much easier, and allows us to live stream the talks.
>>
>> Can anyone volunteer to help out with this moving forward?
>>
>>
>> -James
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From hunter at napofearth.com  Thu Jul  3 20:55:11 2014
From: hunter at napofearth.com (Hunter Blanks)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 11:55:11 -0700
Subject: [Baypiggies] Backend Software Engineer - Berkeley
Message-ID: <CAFxeyQSGdyOFYtpZBY-uAdbop1mHAo54hi-SaM_Bm6eX6CGQ3w@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I work as the backend engineer for an offshoot of Will Wright's Stupid Fun
Club in Berkeley, and I'm looking for a second backend engineer.

Details can be found here:

http://stupidfunclub.com/jobs.html


So far as numbers go, our business is just over a dozen employees right
now, with a consumer beta starting near summer's end. The two frontends are
implemented against WebGL & iOS. All of our backend and operations
automation is in Python.

If you're interested or have any questions, please feel free to write me at
hunter at napofearth.com.

HJB
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From mdavis2 at ucsc.edu  Sat Jul  5 20:15:01 2014
From: mdavis2 at ucsc.edu (Marilyn Davis)
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 11:15:01 -0700
Subject: [Baypiggies] Saturday Python Class and more
Message-ID: <CAMDjdqwRdvTdzjzu10-=Ze-1Cx_G6XXphRNO5Onka_wcn-XJkg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Python People,

We are starting a Saturday Python class for programmers (experienced in
any other language) at UCSC-Extension Silicon Valley's labs in Santa
Clara, right across 101 from the Great America sign.
http://course.ucsc-extension.edu/modules/shop/index.html?action=section&OfferingID=1531625&SectionID=5275735

It will be 5 Saturdays and give students experience in all core concepts of
Python.

The course is low-pressure, but fast-paced, where students learn and
practice core concepts and Pythonic thinking.  To join this class, you
should be well-practiced at programming in some other language.

No beginning programmers please, but you can certainly be new to Python.
If you are beginner, please find your class below under "NOVICES".

ONLINE CLASS:

If you would prefer an online class, you will enjoy:
http://course.ucsc-extension.edu/modules/shop/index.html?action=section&OfferingID=1531625&SectionID=5274871

The online site for this course is open now and new enrollments will be
accepted until July 15.

If you would prefer more time with the online materials, and with me and
our online assistant instructor, Casey The, then you might like to wait and
join the class that opens August 5:
http://course.ucsc-extension.edu/modules/shop/index.html?action=section&OfferingID=1531625&SectionID=5274872

FOR NOVICES

For 6 Thursday evenings, starting July 10, we will hold the "Introduction
To Programming For Beginners, Using Python" class which prepares
programming novices to take the Python For Programmers' class:
http://course.ucsc-extension.edu/modules/shop/index.html?action=section&OfferingID=3576274&SectionID=5274926

which is 6 nights of acquiring basic programming skills in python and
prepares you for the next programmers class

If you have programming experience in any language skip the Beginners
class listed above and join a Programmers' class.

----
All our Python courses are hands-on with short lectures, and lots of
exercises where we study the solutions after some lab time.

Questions are always welcome; discussion and pair-programming are encouraged.

Please come, and send students!

---

And, the first quarter of the professional course is available for $20 at
Udemy.Com!  I'm so busy that I can't say when the rest of the course will
be there, but I'm working on it.
https://www.udemy.com/pythonic-python-part-i-the-basics/

I hope you find one of these classes useful to your schedule and your taste.

Marilyn Davis
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From aahz at pythoncraft.com  Tue Jul  8 21:55:30 2014
From: aahz at pythoncraft.com (Aahz)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 12:55:30 -0700
Subject: [Baypiggies] FWD: We're number one!
Message-ID: <20140708195530.GA14749@panix.com>

Python is now the most popular introductory teaching language at top U.S.
universities:

http://m.cacm.acm.org/blogs/blog-cacm/176450-python-is-now-the-most-popular-introductory-teaching-language-at-top-us-universities/fulltext
-- 
Aahz (aahz at pythoncraft.com)           <*>         http://www.pythoncraft.com/

Question authority: ask me anything!

From guido at python.org  Tue Jul  8 21:57:53 2014
From: guido at python.org (Guido van Rossum)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 12:57:53 -0700
Subject: [Baypiggies] FWD: We're number one!
In-Reply-To: <20140708195530.GA14749@panix.com>
References: <20140708195530.GA14749@panix.com>
Message-ID: <CAP7+vJLiYbi9mpe3RxjvZLWw=WupPS9zB3Zvi21Da3sXgcjuvg@mail.gmail.com>

Also check out the author's pythontutor.com!


On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Aahz <aahz at pythoncraft.com> wrote:

> Python is now the most popular introductory teaching language at top U.S.
> universities:
>
>
> http://m.cacm.acm.org/blogs/blog-cacm/176450-python-is-now-the-most-popular-introductory-teaching-language-at-top-us-universities/fulltext
> --
> Aahz (aahz at pythoncraft.com)           <*>
> http://www.pythoncraft.com/
>
> Question authority: ask me anything!
> _______________________________________________
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From yousuffauzan at gmail.com  Tue Jul  8 22:19:43 2014
From: yousuffauzan at gmail.com (Yousuf Fauzan)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 13:19:43 -0700
Subject: [Baypiggies] FWD: We're number one!
In-Reply-To: <CAP7+vJLiYbi9mpe3RxjvZLWw=WupPS9zB3Zvi21Da3sXgcjuvg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20140708195530.GA14749@panix.com>
 <CAP7+vJLiYbi9mpe3RxjvZLWw=WupPS9zB3Zvi21Da3sXgcjuvg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKkeR+bUsERMbdz8z2Q-W8FFunE3PW_ercvdk+mKtM6MWgQb2g@mail.gmail.com>

+1 for pythontutor.com

--
Yousuf
CodeBunk


On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Guido van Rossum <guido at python.org> wrote:

> Also check out the author's pythontutor.com!
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Aahz <aahz at pythoncraft.com> wrote:
>
>> Python is now the most popular introductory teaching language at top U.S.
>> universities:
>>
>>
>> http://m.cacm.acm.org/blogs/blog-cacm/176450-python-is-now-the-most-popular-introductory-teaching-language-at-top-us-universities/fulltext
>> --
>> Aahz (aahz at pythoncraft.com)           <*>
>> http://www.pythoncraft.com/
>>
>> Question authority: ask me anything!
>> _______________________________________________
>> Baypiggies mailing list
>> Baypiggies at python.org
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>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies
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>
>
>
> --
> --Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido)
>
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From wescpy at gmail.com  Fri Jul 18 18:28:20 2014
From: wescpy at gmail.com (wesley chun)
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 09:28:20 -0700
Subject: [Baypiggies] ANN: Intro+Intermediate Python, San Francisco,
	Jul 30-31, Aug 1
In-Reply-To: <CAB6eaA6absi+=1Dqikq+EEAkC7KaSZTGPnVSRsZt5DwEXb23XQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAB6eaA6absi+=1Dqikq+EEAkC7KaSZTGPnVSRsZt5DwEXb23XQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAB6eaA5iA+a=zCqtkCYiFYBcLVvPwAUxLTTj6FhRrtti-5mG9g@mail.gmail.com>

Hey everyone,

Just a quick final reminder about my 3-day Python course coming up in a few
weeks (Jul 30-Aug 1). To recap, my audience isn't the absolute newbie to
coding... it *is* geared towards the following audiences:

   1. Those who already know how to code in another high-level language
   (C/C++, Java, PHP, Ruby) looking to get a strong introduction to Python
   2. Those who already know Python syntax, i.e., either by tinkering on
   their own, via a study group, have taken courses from Udacity,
   Coursera, Marilyn - UC Santa Cruz or any other local college, or have
   completed "Learn Python the Hard Way"... they want to know more and take
   their skills to the next level plus learn good Python practices along the
   way.
   3. Those who know Python well and use it often but want to fill-in gaps
   in their knowledge or have run into hard-to-explain bugs with their code
   even if it appears to all be syntactically correct.

The course takes place near the SFO airport (free shuttle for those flying
in). It's across the street from the San Bruno BART station (and up the
road from CalTrain), and there's easy freeway access (101/380/280) along
with free parking. The fee is $1495 (covers all lectures, codelabs, course
materials, textbook) -- bring a friend or colleague, and you'll both get a
discount! (Contact me privately for details.) Here's the public ad:
http://goo.gl/pyJseQ.

Go to http://corepython.com and click the "Training" link in the lower
right-hand corner. There are links to the course and registration. You can
also watch a 5-minute video to get an idea of my teaching style and
classroom interaction. A 1-pager/flyer (PDF) can be downloaded at
http://cyberwebconsulting.com/flyerPP1.pdf

Hope to meet some of you in a few weeks!
--Wesley



On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 11:59 AM, wesley chun <wescpy at gmail.com> wrote:

> it was great seeing some of you at the last BayPIGgies meeting and few
> weeks ago. some of you came up to inquire about my next Python course, so i
> wanted to hand out the formal info to you below. feel free to forward to
> anyone you know who may be interested, and let me know if you have any
> questions!
>
> cheers,
> --wesley
> -------------------
>
> Greetings!
>
> I'll be offering another hardcore Python course this summer near the
> San Francisco airport. If you're somewhat new to or have some Python
> experience under your belt already but want to fill-in the holes,
> this course is for you. Why take a real course when you can learn
> Python online or by reading books?
>
> Well, my goal isn't to teach Python syntax, which you can from any
> teacher, live or online, or from giant books. My job is to create
> great Python developers and removing the roadblocks that impede
> your path to getting there. This intensive course is based on my
>  "Core Python" (http://corepython.com) books and is made up of 3
> full days complete with lectures and several hands-on coding labs
> per day. t's also a great excuse to coming to beautiful Northern
> California for a summer vacation!
>
> Groups and development teams are welcome as well as individuals. I do
> more private gigs and fewer of these public courses lately, so please
> come join if you can... my next public intro/intermediate course may
> not be for awhile, so I'm hoping to meet some of you this time around!
>
> Sign up soon... there's a special earlybird rate for the rest of this
> month before going up to the regular rate after that. More details and
> registration at http://cyberwebconsulting.com as well as in the ad:
> http://goo.gl/pyJseQ
>
> I'm no fan of spam, so I'll only send out one last reminder as the
> date gets closer... say around the end of June.
>
> Cheers,
> -- Wesley
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> "A computer never does what you want... only what you tell it."
>     +wesley chun <http://google.com/+WesleyChun> : wescpy at gmail :
> @wescpy <http://twitter.com/wescpy>
>     Python training & consulting : http://CyberwebConsulting.com
>     "Core Python" books : http://CorePython.com
>     Python blog: http://wescpy.blogspot.com
>
>


-- 
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
"A computer never does what you want... only what you tell it."
    +wesley chun <http://google.com/+WesleyChun> : wescpy at gmail : @wescpy
<http://twitter.com/wescpy>
    Python training & consulting : http://CyberwebConsulting.com
    "Core Python" books : http://CorePython.com
    Python blog: http://wescpy.blogspot.com
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From glen at glenjarvis.com  Wed Jul 23 20:41:42 2014
From: glen at glenjarvis.com (Glen Jarvis)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 11:41:42 -0700
Subject: [Baypiggies] It's that time again :)
Message-ID: <CA+UBrj7J8GRn3_K0tuHh2LYoR5Aas036R-FD4w8=U+oaPUXFrw@mail.gmail.com>

It's tomorrow :)

Welcome To BayPIGgies
We are the Silicon Valley-San Francisco Bay Area Python Interest Group. No
membership is required, and beginners are welcome!

Next Meeting:  July 24, 2014 @ LinkedIn, Mtn. View



Main Presentation



*Speaker: Eli Bressert*


Topic: Python For Science

Python plays a pivotal role in the data science and academic communities.
This is largely due to Python?s capabilities in terms of flexibility,
simplicity, readability, and most importantly a strong basis of numerical
libraries. The powerhouse libraries for numerical analysis are NumPy,
SciPy, and Pandas and almost all higher level libraries, such Scikit-Learn,
are built on top of them.

In this presentation, I?ll cover the strengths of Python?s numerical tools
and how to best use them. We will cover basic statistics, optimization,
data modeling, and basic machine learning practices. Industry and academic
examples will be covered via IPython Notebook to demonstrate where the
tools shine

*Speaker: *

 Bio
===
Eli is a data scientist at Stitch Fix, a board member and consultant for
Authorea, and author of the O?Reilly book, ?SciPy and NumPy?. He was a data
scientist at Jawbone and a fellow at the Insight Data Science program in
Silicon Valley. Previously, he received a post-doc fellowship in Australia
investigating star-formation and young stellar clusters. Eli is one of the
founding developers for two well-known astrophysics Python packages ATpy
and APLpy.




-- 

"You grab mindshare by being there."

-- Alex Martelli

   Bay Area Python Interest Group Talk

   24-Oct, 2013
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From martin at falatic.com  Fri Jul 25 20:14:21 2014
From: martin at falatic.com (Martin Falatic)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 11:14:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baypiggies] The correct / consistent way to work with class
	attributes
Message-ID: <37211.64.102.254.33.1406312061.squirrel@martin-wwwss5.ssl.supercp.com>

My question on Stack Overflow is getting a lot of traffic but little love:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/24923749/

Perhaps the more exact question after all that discussion is, what's the
best (Pythonic and consistent) way to work with class attributes from
within a given (new-style) class? type(self), self.__class__, the explicit
class name, something else?

It seems to me that putting the explicit class name into a class is
redundant, and I was told meta-classes can cause issues with using type()
when considering how Python 2.7 works versus 3.4 (I'm not as well versed
on meta-classes yet so I'm not sure what the specific difference is
supposed to be there - but I'd like to understand it).

Thoughts?

 - Marty



From jwegis at gmail.com  Fri Jul 25 21:10:21 2014
From: jwegis at gmail.com (John Wegis)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 12:10:21 -0700
Subject: [Baypiggies] Full-Stack Software Engineer - San Francisco
Message-ID: <CAOxin+Qg6vAewVTBa++Ufe6fmT3RV-1=r-fLoY1RtWQbPSNzPQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Baypiggies!

The company I work for PresenceLearning <http://presencelearning.com/> is
looking to hire another software engineer. Our four person product/dev team
designs and writes code that helps deliver therapy online to kids with
special needs. Our main dev stack is Python/Django, MySQL, AngularJS and
HTML/CSS.

Full details can be found here:


http://www.jobscore.com/jobs2/presencelearning/job-default/c-FZwse5Wr5kv_iGakhP3Q

Feel free to reach out to me directly at: john at presencelearning.com or via
gmail. Cheers!

john
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From jjinux at gmail.com  Sat Jul 26 02:12:43 2014
From: jjinux at gmail.com (Shannon -jj Behrens)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 17:12:43 -0700
Subject: [Baypiggies] The correct / consistent way to work with class
	attributes
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Is there any case that using self.__class__.attribute doesn't address?


On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Martin Falatic <martin at falatic.com> wrote:

> My question on Stack Overflow is getting a lot of traffic but little love:
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/24923749/
>
> Perhaps the more exact question after all that discussion is, what's the
> best (Pythonic and consistent) way to work with class attributes from
> within a given (new-style) class? type(self), self.__class__, the explicit
> class name, something else?
>
> It seems to me that putting the explicit class name into a class is
> redundant, and I was told meta-classes can cause issues with using type()
> when considering how Python 2.7 works versus 3.4 (I'm not as well versed
> on meta-classes yet so I'm not sure what the specific difference is
> supposed to be there - but I'd like to understand it).
>
> Thoughts?
>
>  - Marty
>
>
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From pkpp1233 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 26 02:30:58 2014
From: pkpp1233 at gmail.com (Paul Katsen)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 19:30:58 -0500
Subject: [Baypiggies] Instant API for Python scripts
Message-ID: <CACFjNe4WBFsC2rJcrYUHNwGRb9X_BwDUpU60iqN+K=3d7k8amg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

A few people asked me to post my project to the mailing list after
yesterday's meetup. Here's the simple pandas k-means clustering example
<https://forms.blockspring.com/users/pkpp1233/blocks/729b4cf7fa9de83b47fb53563ab376bd>
I
was calling from my d3 visualization via ajax, without setting up any
backend.

And here's the main page link: https://forms.blockspring.com/blocks
<https://forms.blockspring.com/blocks/new>*/*.

Just a reminder - the project's purpose is to make python scripts really
accessible. I provide you with a form and an API endpoint to execute your
script. The form makes it easy to share your work with non-engineers, and
the API makes it easy to execute your script via http.

Please feel free to email or call me with feedback, ideas, or questions.
Excited to see all the different use cases for this.

Best,

Paul Katsen
Blockspring.com
312.834.7265
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From wescpy at gmail.com  Sat Jul 26 04:06:14 2014
From: wescpy at gmail.com (wesley chun)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 19:06:14 -0700
Subject: [Baypiggies] The correct / consistent way to work with class
	attributes
In-Reply-To: <CAB0XCvbypb1bguFZ-V31ZK=iucCVqqN4ikX25KJZqGCxXL3C5A@mail.gmail.com>
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 <CAB0XCvbypb1bguFZ-V31ZK=iucCVqqN4ikX25KJZqGCxXL3C5A@mail.gmail.com>
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I prefer self.__class__.attribute the most, followed by using the class
name.
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From martin at falatic.com  Sat Jul 26 05:35:20 2014
From: martin at falatic.com (Martin Falatic)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 20:35:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Baypiggies] The correct / consistent way to work with class
 attributes
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Well, when I went poking around for it I stumbled on type(self) first and
thought that was the done thing, but that was apparently a blind alley for
this purpose. I like self.__class__ more than the explicit class name so
I'm keep that in mind when I need to do that. :-)

I didn't like either answer on S.O.... neither suggested (as one commenter
did) the use of self.__class__, which is pretty much what I was looking
for.

Thanks again!

 - Marty


On Fri, July 25, 2014 19:06, wesley chun wrote:
> I prefer self.__class__.attribute the most, followed by using the class
> name.

On Fri, July 25, 2014 17:12, Shannon -jj Behrens wrote:
> Is there any case that using self.__class__.attribute doesn't address?
>


>
> On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Martin Falatic <martin at falatic.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>> My question on Stack Overflow is getting a lot of traffic but little
>> love:
>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/24923749/
>>
>>
>> Perhaps the more exact question after all that discussion is, what's
>> the best (Pythonic and consistent) way to work with class attributes
>> from within a given (new-style) class? type(self), self.__class__, the
>> explicit class name, something else?
>>
>> It seems to me that putting the explicit class name into a class is
>> redundant, and I was told meta-classes can cause issues with using
>> type() when considering how Python 2.7 works versus 3.4 (I'm not as well
>> versed on meta-classes yet so I'm not sure what the specific difference
>> is supposed to be there - but I'd like to understand it).
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>>
>> - Marty
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Baypiggies mailing list
>> Baypiggies at python.org
>> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> In this life we cannot do great things. We can only do small things with
> great love. -- Mother Teresa
>