From cappy2112 at gmail.com  Wed Jan  9 00:56:15 2013
From: cappy2112 at gmail.com (Tony Cappellini)
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 15:56:15 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Baypiggies meeting on Jan 24, 2013- presenter needed
Message-ID: <CABRXM4m8bwhn3RKR_G-e7EtXQake87RA2vRaM77g_CbzEFwn1w@mail.gmail.com>

Happy New Year Everyone!

I hope your holidays were enjoyable and safe.

That said, we are starting the new year empty-handed. That is, we do
not have anyone scheduled to give a presentation
for January 24th, 2013. Anyone interested in giving a presentation for
January please post a message ASAP.


Thank You

From erin.lynn.root at gmail.com  Wed Jan  9 05:16:10 2013
From: erin.lynn.root at gmail.com (Lynn Root)
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 20:16:10 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] IronPython core dev
Message-ID: <CALrEYi-qC1_=f+WymqxzkQi43sm=P_b3SCsmSgZgv+3_8y23tg@mail.gmail.com>

Hey folks,

Anyone on this list, or know of someone that's a core dev on IronPython?

Much appreciated!

Lynn Root

Sent from my cloud device.
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From nad at acm.org  Wed Jan  9 05:36:04 2013
From: nad at acm.org (Ned Deily)
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 20:36:04 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] IronPython core dev
References: <CALrEYi-qC1_=f+WymqxzkQi43sm=P_b3SCsmSgZgv+3_8y23tg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <nad-D9D8FE.20360408012013@news.gmane.org>

In article 
<CALrEYi-qC1_=f+WymqxzkQi43sm=P_b3SCsmSgZgv+3_8y23tg at mail.gmail.com>,
 Lynn Root <erin.lynn.root at gmail.com> 
 wrote:
> Anyone on this list, or know of someone that's a core dev on IronPython?
> 
> Much appreciated!

You could ask on the ironpython-users mailing list:

http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/ironpython-users

-- 
 Ned Deily,
 nad at acm.org


From tony at tcapp.com  Wed Jan  9 05:36:27 2013
From: tony at tcapp.com (Tony Cappellini)
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 20:36:27 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] IronPython core dev
In-Reply-To: <CALrEYi-qC1_=f+WymqxzkQi43sm=P_b3SCsmSgZgv+3_8y23tg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALrEYi-qC1_=f+WymqxzkQi43sm=P_b3SCsmSgZgv+3_8y23tg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABRXM4ncLCsWxx0ETvThoyW3vigSRR_WE+oP2NjRJNY3pbuvNA@mail.gmail.com>

Didn't Microsoft kill support for IronPython last year?

On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 8:16 PM, Lynn Root <erin.lynn.root at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey folks,
>
> Anyone on this list, or know of someone that's a core dev on IronPython?
>
> Much appreciated!
>
> Lynn Root
>
> Sent from my cloud device.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Baypiggies mailing list
> Baypiggies at python.org
> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies

From guido at python.org  Wed Jan  9 05:53:01 2013
From: guido at python.org (Guido van Rossum)
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 20:53:01 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] IronPython core dev
In-Reply-To: <CABRXM4ncLCsWxx0ETvThoyW3vigSRR_WE+oP2NjRJNY3pbuvNA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALrEYi-qC1_=f+WymqxzkQi43sm=P_b3SCsmSgZgv+3_8y23tg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABRXM4ncLCsWxx0ETvThoyW3vigSRR_WE+oP2NjRJNY3pbuvNA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAP7+vJL7Z9XaHSP44dq00XHGfgEV+gjyyg+W_GFDDohxna9jhw@mail.gmail.com>

Microsoft no longer supports it directly, but it's not dead; there's a
group of people keeping it alive -- after all it's open source. Not
sure how active this group is, but I think at least Michael Foord and
Dino Viehland are still active.

On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Tony Cappellini <tony at tcapp.com> wrote:
> Didn't Microsoft kill support for IronPython last year?
>
> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 8:16 PM, Lynn Root <erin.lynn.root at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hey folks,
>>
>> Anyone on this list, or know of someone that's a core dev on IronPython?
>>
>> Much appreciated!
>>
>> Lynn Root
>>
>> Sent from my cloud device.
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Baypiggies mailing list
>> Baypiggies at python.org
>> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies
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-- 
--Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido)

From stephen at mcquay.me  Wed Jan  9 07:56:40 2013
From: stephen at mcquay.me (Stephen M. McQuay)
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 22:56:40 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Baypiggies meeting on Jan 24,
	2013- presenter needed
In-Reply-To: <CABRXM4m8bwhn3RKR_G-e7EtXQake87RA2vRaM77g_CbzEFwn1w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABRXM4m8bwhn3RKR_G-e7EtXQake87RA2vRaM77g_CbzEFwn1w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20130109065640.GB33920@idrt-lab.apple.com>

On Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 03:56:15PM -0800, Tony Cappellini wrote:
>Anyone interested in giving a presentation for January please post 
>a message ASAP.

I've been using fabric recently to great success.

Fabric is a command line tool that helps simplify the use of ssh to run 
commands on multiple machines. It came up briefly duing last month's 
presentation.

I have used fabric in the past to deploy binaries, update repositories 
on remote machines to certain versions, etc.

I wouldn't mind presenting on the topic; objections? Interest?

-- 
Stephen M. McQuay
http://mcquay.me/vcf
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From cappy2112 at gmail.com  Wed Jan  9 08:00:07 2013
From: cappy2112 at gmail.com (Tony Cappellini)
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 23:00:07 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Baypiggies meeting on Jan 24,
	2013- presenter needed
In-Reply-To: <20130109065640.GB33920@idrt-lab.apple.com>
References: <CABRXM4m8bwhn3RKR_G-e7EtXQake87RA2vRaM77g_CbzEFwn1w@mail.gmail.com>
	<20130109065640.GB33920@idrt-lab.apple.com>
Message-ID: <CABRXM4nW17MW1jH4VOAzMs+g2vQsDnGj_C=3mMJkRJ8G1-VQZw@mail.gmail.com>

+1 for the presentation in January

On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:56 PM, Stephen M. McQuay <stephen at mcquay.me> wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 03:56:15PM -0800, Tony Cappellini wrote:
>>
>> Anyone interested in giving a presentation for January please post a
>> message ASAP.
>
>
> I've been using fabric recently to great success.
>
> Fabric is a command line tool that helps simplify the use of ssh to run
> commands on multiple machines. It came up briefly duing last month's
> presentation.
>
> I have used fabric in the past to deploy binaries, update repositories on
> remote machines to certain versions, etc.
>
> I wouldn't mind presenting on the topic; objections? Interest?
>
>
> --
> Stephen M. McQuay
> http://mcquay.me/vcf

From david.berthelot at gmail.com  Wed Jan  9 08:06:08 2013
From: david.berthelot at gmail.com (David Berthelot)
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 23:06:08 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Baypiggies meeting on Jan 24,
	2013- presenter needed
In-Reply-To: <CABRXM4nW17MW1jH4VOAzMs+g2vQsDnGj_C=3mMJkRJ8G1-VQZw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABRXM4m8bwhn3RKR_G-e7EtXQake87RA2vRaM77g_CbzEFwn1w@mail.gmail.com>
	<20130109065640.GB33920@idrt-lab.apple.com>
	<CABRXM4nW17MW1jH4VOAzMs+g2vQsDnGj_C=3mMJkRJ8G1-VQZw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACakA7ZASyP1hhSMjWD2oq_5btM-xd4DKm5b83Zb=rVRXXXftA@mail.gmail.com>

+1

On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 11:00 PM, Tony Cappellini <cappy2112 at gmail.com>wrote:

> +1 for the presentation in January
>
> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:56 PM, Stephen M. McQuay <stephen at mcquay.me>
> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 03:56:15PM -0800, Tony Cappellini wrote:
> >>
> >> Anyone interested in giving a presentation for January please post a
> >> message ASAP.
> >
> >
> > I've been using fabric recently to great success.
> >
> > Fabric is a command line tool that helps simplify the use of ssh to run
> > commands on multiple machines. It came up briefly duing last month's
> > presentation.
> >
> > I have used fabric in the past to deploy binaries, update repositories on
> > remote machines to certain versions, etc.
> >
> > I wouldn't mind presenting on the topic; objections? Interest?
> >
> >
> > --
> > Stephen M. McQuay
> > http://mcquay.me/vcf
> _______________________________________________
> Baypiggies mailing list
> Baypiggies at python.org
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From stephen at mcquay.me  Wed Jan  9 08:11:41 2013
From: stephen at mcquay.me (Stephen M. McQuay)
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 23:11:41 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Baypiggies meeting on Jan 24,
	2013- presenter needed
In-Reply-To: <20130109065640.GB33920@idrt-lab.apple.com>
References: <CABRXM4m8bwhn3RKR_G-e7EtXQake87RA2vRaM77g_CbzEFwn1w@mail.gmail.com>
	<20130109065640.GB33920@idrt-lab.apple.com>
Message-ID: <20130109071140.GE33920@idrt-lab.apple.com>

I assumed it would go without mentioning, but it's a python library:

http://fabfile.org

-- 
Stephen M. McQuay
http://mcquay.me/vcf
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From davidoff56 at alluvialsw.com  Wed Jan  9 08:00:09 2013
From: davidoff56 at alluvialsw.com (Monte Davidoff)
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 23:00:09 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Baypiggies meeting on Jan 24,
	2013- presenter needed
In-Reply-To: <20130109065640.GB33920@idrt-lab.apple.com>
References: <CABRXM4m8bwhn3RKR_G-e7EtXQake87RA2vRaM77g_CbzEFwn1w@mail.gmail.com>
	<20130109065640.GB33920@idrt-lab.apple.com>
Message-ID: <50ED1579.7010506@alluvialsw.com>

On 1/8/13 10:56 PM, Stephen M. McQuay wrote:
> Fabric is a command line tool that helps simplify the use of ssh to 
> run commands on multiple machines. ...
> I wouldn't mind presenting on the topic; objections? Interest?

+1

From bdbaddog at gmail.com  Wed Jan  9 08:28:41 2013
From: bdbaddog at gmail.com (William Deegan)
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 23:28:41 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Baypiggies meeting on Jan 24,
	2013- presenter needed
In-Reply-To: <20130109071140.GE33920@idrt-lab.apple.com>
References: <CABRXM4m8bwhn3RKR_G-e7EtXQake87RA2vRaM77g_CbzEFwn1w@mail.gmail.com>
	<20130109065640.GB33920@idrt-lab.apple.com>
	<20130109071140.GE33920@idrt-lab.apple.com>
Message-ID: <50ED1C29.4020304@gmail.com>

On 01/08/2013 11:11 PM, Stephen M. McQuay wrote:
> I assumed it would go without mentioning, but it's a python library:
>
> http://fabfile.org

How does it compare to salt stack? (also python.. ;)
http://saltstack.org/

-Bill

From glen at glenjarvis.com  Wed Jan  9 17:02:04 2013
From: glen at glenjarvis.com (Glen Jarvis)
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 08:02:04 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Baypiggies meeting on Jan 24,
	2013- presenter needed
In-Reply-To: <50ED1C29.4020304@gmail.com>
References: <CABRXM4m8bwhn3RKR_G-e7EtXQake87RA2vRaM77g_CbzEFwn1w@mail.gmail.com>
	<20130109065640.GB33920@idrt-lab.apple.com>
	<20130109071140.GE33920@idrt-lab.apple.com>
	<50ED1C29.4020304@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <23190AC8-5023-455F-9ECE-F43AC336FECB@glenjarvis.com>

I think of salt and fabric totally differently. It's only when writing this email that I realize that I describe both as a deployment tool.

Salt is like that replacement for chef and puppet (an automatic deployment tool where the machine pulls the data it needs to become a web server (for example) with your configuration without any human intervention).

I think if fabric like a way if pushing close manually (or pulling log files off of many machines at once).

So, salt for making new machines without human intervention. And fabric for managing those machines. We did use fabric for all of our production deployments in the past -- but that was in machines that were already built. We wanted a salt equivalent to build the virtual machine from scratch so we had a fresh machine (and thus tested any new dependencies). It also made rollback a cinch (plop the old machine back behind the load balancer). When we're certain we don't need to roll back, destroy the VMs.

Cheers,



Glen

On Jan 8, 2013, at 11:28 PM, William Deegan <bdbaddog at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 01/08/2013 11:11 PM, Stephen M. McQuay wrote:
>> I assumed it would go without mentioning, but it's a python library:
>> 
>> http://fabfile.org
> 
> How does it compare to salt stack? (also python.. ;)
> http://saltstack.org/
> 
> -Bill
> _______________________________________________
> Baypiggies mailing list
> Baypiggies at python.org
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From venkat83 at gmail.com  Thu Jan 10 06:32:12 2013
From: venkat83 at gmail.com (Venkatraman S)
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 11:02:12 +0530
Subject: [Baypiggies] [X-POST] Fwd: [Ilugc] SQL Injection vulnerability in
 Ruby on Rails forces websites to close down
In-Reply-To: <CABmCGuA1EU_N1kh+dOdd42ukkMxtN_FJz9LmaWF39eUxFjixTA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABmCGuCGQMK6W=aT5aArwzR2Kzk4Re1QXSbHjUpQZ04k9+vDNA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABmCGuA1EU_N1kh+dOdd42ukkMxtN_FJz9LmaWF39eUxFjixTA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAN7tdFQFquLrtfgkzBsfHUm2DGYQ6LRk=oFY9kEVgvM+hRXJjQ@mail.gmail.com>

FYI:

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Natarajan V <rajanvn at gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 10:49 AM
Subject: [Ilugc] SQL Injection vulnerability in Ruby on Rails forces
websites to close down
To: ILUG-C <ilugc at ae.iitm.ac.in>


Hi,

A major security vulnerability found in RoR has forced a government
website to close down. The vulnerability exists in ALL versions of RoR
unless you upgraded in the last two days.

Some Links:
http://blog.phusion.nl/2013/01/03/rails-sql-injection-vulnerability-hold-your-horses-here-are-the-facts/
http://it.slashdot.org/story/13/01/09/1557235/ruby-on-rails-sql-injection-flaw-has-serious-real-life-consequences
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/rubyonrails-security/61bkgvnSGTQ

As I was telling Karthick during my session, you can never assume that
your code is secure just because you are using some framework. You
should always do your home work, and whatever measures that the
framework takes, can be broken by a very very stupid programmer :D


--
Natarajan
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http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
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From brian at python.org  Mon Jan 14 16:32:37 2013
From: brian at python.org (Brian Curtin)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 15:32:37 -0000
Subject: [Baypiggies] PyCon 2013 Schedule Announced!
Message-ID: <mailman.1.1358177558.2935.baypiggies@python.org>

Hi BayPIGgies!

It's that time of year again: the PyCon schedule has been announced and the rush to pick up tickets is on! https://us.pycon.org/2013/schedule/ was completed last week, and we've seen a sharp increase in sales as we approach 1,500 registrations. This year we're limiting the attendance to 2,500 for our second year in Santa Clara, CA. The conference runs from March 13-21.

The 2013 edition of PyCon is going to be the biggest and best yet. We've added a sixth track of talks, giving you 114 presentations to view. Tutorials are better than ever, with an even wider range of topics than before. They keynotes are being given by an excellent group: Eben Upton, Jessica McKellar, Raymond Hettinger, and Guido van Rossum.

Tickets are available now at https://us.pycon.org/2013/registration/. Student rates were cut in half for 2013 to $125, and individual registrations are only $350. Corporate tickets are currently $600. No matter what group you fall into, the value PyCon provides is incredible.

We've got a ton of great events going on throughout the conference. There's a workshop for kids 12 and under to learn Python - https://us.pycon.org/2013/events/letslearnpython/. The successful PyData conference is running during the sprints - http://sv2013.eventbrite.com/. The Postgres community is running PyPgDay during the tutorials - https://us.pycon.org/2013/events/pgday/.

We're once again doing the 5K run, and the open spaces and sprints will be a blast as well. We also have a few tricks up our sleeve that we'll update you on at http://pycon.blogspot.com/ and https://www.twitter.com/PyCon.

If your organization is interested in sponsoring PyCon, check out our prospectus at https://us.pycon.org/2013/sponsors/prospectus/ and contact conference chairman Jesse Noller at jnoller at python.org with any questions.

Thanks for your time, and we hope to see you at PyCon 2013!

Jesse Noller
PyCon Chairman
jnoller at python.org

Brian Curtin
PyCon Publicity Coordinator
brian at python.org


From erin.lynn.root at gmail.com  Mon Jan 14 17:33:31 2013
From: erin.lynn.root at gmail.com (Lynn Root)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 08:33:31 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] PyCon 2013 Schedule Announced!
In-Reply-To: <3YlJcy6GtGzS4g@mail.python.org>
References: <3YlJcy6GtGzS4g@mail.python.org>
Message-ID: <CALrEYi9-xi4TfvQR51HiHgLXCunz0qh4rxEBTvN+tgERZ+VTag@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Brian and Baypiggies-

Just a small correction: the tutorial for kids is actually ages 12 and up.

Hope to see and meet you all at the conference!

Lynn Root

Sent from my cloud device.
On Jan 14, 2013 7:34 AM, "Brian Curtin" <brian at python.org> wrote:

> Hi BayPIGgies!
>
> It's that time of year again: the PyCon schedule has been announced and
> the rush to pick up tickets is on! https://us.pycon.org/2013/schedule/was completed last week, and we've seen a sharp increase in sales as we
> approach 1,500 registrations. This year we're limiting the attendance to
> 2,500 for our second year in Santa Clara, CA. The conference runs from
> March 13-21.
>
> The 2013 edition of PyCon is going to be the biggest and best yet. We've
> added a sixth track of talks, giving you 114 presentations to view.
> Tutorials are better than ever, with an even wider range of topics than
> before. They keynotes are being given by an excellent group: Eben Upton,
> Jessica McKellar, Raymond Hettinger, and Guido van Rossum.
>
> Tickets are available now at https://us.pycon.org/2013/registration/.
> Student rates were cut in half for 2013 to $125, and individual
> registrations are only $350. Corporate tickets are currently $600. No
> matter what group you fall into, the value PyCon provides is incredible.
>
> We've got a ton of great events going on throughout the conference.
> There's a workshop for kids 12 and under to learn Python -
> https://us.pycon.org/2013/events/letslearnpython/. The successful PyData
> conference is running during the sprints - http://sv2013.eventbrite.com/.
> The Postgres community is running PyPgDay during the tutorials -
> https://us.pycon.org/2013/events/pgday/.
>
> We're once again doing the 5K run, and the open spaces and sprints will be
> a blast as well. We also have a few tricks up our sleeve that we'll update
> you on at http://pycon.blogspot.com/ and https://www.twitter.com/PyCon.
>
> If your organization is interested in sponsoring PyCon, check out our
> prospectus at https://us.pycon.org/2013/sponsors/prospectus/ and contact
> conference chairman Jesse Noller at jnoller at python.org with any questions.
>
> Thanks for your time, and we hope to see you at PyCon 2013!
>
> Jesse Noller
> PyCon Chairman
> jnoller at python.org
>
> Brian Curtin
> PyCon Publicity Coordinator
> brian at python.org
>
> _______________________________________________
> Baypiggies mailing list
> Baypiggies at python.org
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From markhelo at gmail.com  Tue Jan 15 03:18:51 2013
From: markhelo at gmail.com (Amol Kher)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:18:51 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Jeff Hammerbacher Talk at Atlassian on Feb 6th.
Message-ID: <CAFJMGY4u3nA_-_5b8spGgNDUakF3wFTi0TmN0zvo2YnO+rz=kg@mail.gmail.com>

Fellow Python Enthusiasts,

Jeff Hammerbacher, chief scientist at Cloudera, is giving a talk on how to
store and analyze your own genome. This event is put together by
RockHealth, the health startup accelerator that we (Wello) are part of.

Come by if you are interested in the health space or just want to learn
something new.

http://www.skillshare.com/A-Brief-Introduction-to-Personal-Genome-Analysis/301018813/1013458399/

Thanks,
Amol Kher
www.wello.co

P.S. New to this group, though not Python, so I hope this is appropriate.
Hope to see some of you at the event!
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From glen at glenjarvis.com  Wed Jan 16 21:05:34 2013
From: glen at glenjarvis.com (Glen Jarvis)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 12:05:34 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] My company is having a recruiting day tomorrow
 (Thursday) at Nola's lounge in Palo Alto
Message-ID: <CA+UBrj5J3jYRNo40kN8pkEX1USvR-OUBSjT+Xm7rxs5hwO8eGg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello, fellow Pythonistas. My company is having a recruiting day tomorrow
at Nolas in Palo Alto. I'll also try to be there. Feel free to stop by and
keep me company.

Note that there's a large array of skills being hired and some are not
Python related. However, we are definitely hiring Python developers.


Virtustreamers:

We will be having a Recruiting Event Thursday, January 17 from 5 ? 8 pm at
Nola?s in the lounge on Ramana St in Palo Alto.  This will be a social
event to get developers, architects and other skilled resources in front of
Virtustream leadership to learn more about our company, our people and our
current openings.  If you have colleagues in the Bay Area that you would
like to invite, please feel free to tell them about this event.  Our own
Kevin Reid, Dr. Shaw Chuang, Woody Glier, Sam Pooni and I will be there to
host the event.

Some of the resources we are looking for in the Bay area include (but are
not limited to):

?         Python Developers/Architects
?         .Net Developers/Architects
?         SDN Developers
?         Network Developers
?         Security Developer
?         Storage Developer
?         Product Development Manager
?         SAP Architect
?         SAP BASIS
?         Sales Executive
?         Sales Engineer
?         Senior Solution Architect
?         Senior Consultant
?         System Administrator with development skills (Cloud Platform
Engineer)
?         SAP Technical Support (for our SF data center) ? shift work:
nights, evenings, holidays
?         Tech Writer/Trainer
?         Build/Release Engineer

If you are in the area, join us, or you can TWEET, Call, Email or in your
own unique way tell talented colleagues in the Bay Area about this event!
We will be sure to buy them a drink and tell them more about career
opportunities at Virtustream.   (As I am working aware on my Saturday ? I
personally appreciate your help in making this event a success).  This is a
great way to have candidates meet key members in a much less stressful and
more relaxed way than in your normal interview setting.  If all goes well,
we will work to get  the strong referrals through the full process quickly.

I hope you are all enjoying your weekend and hope this motivates you to
connect with a few folks you haven?t spoken with in a while.



Cheers,


Glen
-- 

"Pursue, keep up with, circle round and round your life as a dog does his
master's chase. Do what you love. Know your own bone; gnaw at it, bury it,
unearth it, and gnaw it still."

--Henry David Thoreau
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From erin.lynn.root at gmail.com  Thu Jan 17 01:36:28 2013
From: erin.lynn.root at gmail.com (Lynn Root)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 16:36:28 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Panel Discussion w/ Guido, Alex Gaynor,
	Frank Wierzbicki & Philip Jenvey
Message-ID: <CALrEYi_K9nQ-SL5ttqG-38aoSziXCww=4KHQyskjh6fakCzK4g@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Baypiggies -

PyLadies SF is hosting a panel discussion on the development of popular
Python implementations with Guido van Rossum, Alex Gaynor, Frank Wierzbick
and Philip Jenvey (sadly, no IronPython representation).

It's at Twice (http://liketwice.com) at 2125 Harrison St in SF, right near
the 16th & Mission BART stop.

PyLadies and PyGents are welcome to join. Food + drinks provided.

Submit question(s) here: http://www.google.com/moderator/#16/e=203d76

Sign up (space is limited) here:
http://www.meetup.com/PyLadiesSF/events/99956622/

Pass along to your Python friends/coworkers (especially your fellow
PyLadies!)!

Let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks!

Lynn Root
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From erin.lynn.root at gmail.com  Thu Jan 17 02:04:26 2013
From: erin.lynn.root at gmail.com (Lynn Root)
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 17:04:26 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Panel Discussion w/ Guido, Alex Gaynor,
	Frank Wierzbicki & Philip Jenvey
In-Reply-To: <CALrEYi_K9nQ-SL5ttqG-38aoSziXCww=4KHQyskjh6fakCzK4g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALrEYi_K9nQ-SL5ttqG-38aoSziXCww=4KHQyskjh6fakCzK4g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALrEYi_q-zjEgxU9nPOB0WO4yj1dC3bbeifvPKOgEAmt=swpRg@mail.gmail.com>

Just FYI - it's Wednesday, Jan 30th from 7p - 9p :)


On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Lynn Root <erin.lynn.root at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Baypiggies -
>
> PyLadies SF is hosting a panel discussion on the development of popular
> Python implementations with Guido van Rossum, Alex Gaynor, Frank Wierzbick
> and Philip Jenvey (sadly, no IronPython representation).
>
> It's at Twice (http://liketwice.com) at 2125 Harrison St in SF, right
> near the 16th & Mission BART stop.
>
> PyLadies and PyGents are welcome to join. Food + drinks provided.
>
> Submit question(s) here: http://www.google.com/moderator/#16/e=203d76
>
> Sign up (space is limited) here:
> http://www.meetup.com/PyLadiesSF/events/99956622/
>
> Pass along to your Python friends/coworkers (especially your fellow
> PyLadies!)!
>
> Let me know if you have any questions.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Lynn Root
>
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From venkat83 at gmail.com  Thu Jan 17 05:32:15 2013
From: venkat83 at gmail.com (Venkatraman S)
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 10:02:15 +0530
Subject: [Baypiggies] Baypiggies meeting on Jan 24,
	2013- presenter needed
In-Reply-To: <20130109065640.GB33920@idrt-lab.apple.com>
References: <CABRXM4m8bwhn3RKR_G-e7EtXQake87RA2vRaM77g_CbzEFwn1w@mail.gmail.com>
	<20130109065640.GB33920@idrt-lab.apple.com>
Message-ID: <CAN7tdFTw+A=K2faz09D8nTSBHnLKpEN6m1_qZO6-kkyyrFg+KQ@mail.gmail.com>

Looking forward to this meet.

I attended a meet in Dec'2011 when i was visiting the region, made some
good pals then; and am still in touch with some of them :) I am again
visiting this month and hope to make new pals and listen to interesting
talks.

Regards,
Venkat
https://twitter.com/venkasub
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From aahz at pythoncraft.com  Sat Jan 19 16:29:35 2013
From: aahz at pythoncraft.com (Aahz)
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 10:29:35 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Baypiggies] OSCON Call for Proposals (deadline 2/4)
Message-ID: <20130119152935.CECE32EF7A@mailbackend.panix.com>

DEADLINE Monday February 4

OSCON (O'Reilly Open Source Convention), the premier Open Source
gathering, will be held in Portland, OR July 22-26.  We're looking for
people to deliver tutorials and shorter presentations.

http://www.oscon.com/oscon2013
http://www.oscon.com/oscon2013/public/cfp/251

Hope to see you there!
-- 
Aahz (aahz at pythoncraft.com)           <*>         http://www.pythoncraft.com/

"The joy of coding Python should be in seeing short, concise, readable
classes that express a lot of action in a small amount of clear code --
not in reams of trivial code that bores the reader to death."  --GvR

From erin.lynn.root at gmail.com  Sun Jan 20 21:58:11 2013
From: erin.lynn.root at gmail.com (Lynn Root)
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 12:58:11 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] PyLadies SF Hack Night
Message-ID: <CALrEYi-j8vWUkTdcYutQpf3wu4O6JigmhwoDKxuxOi1QYNGaJQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hey all!

Another PyLadies SF event: Thursday, February 7th from 6p-10p is a hack
night for both PyLadies + PyGents hosted at Twilio with food + drinks
provided.

Join PyLadies of San Francisco for a relaxing, social hack night to work on
personal projects, convince people to contribute to your projects, or to
start learning Python in our newbie corners!

Sign up here: http://www.meetup.com/PyLadiesSF/events/99955512/

Twilio is located in SoMa on Folsom + 1st. Bike parking available inside
their offices.

Hope to see you there! Feel free to pass along and invite your fellow
PyLadies!

Lynn Root
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From glen at glenjarvis.com  Mon Jan 21 21:12:08 2013
From: glen at glenjarvis.com (Glen Jarvis)
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 12:12:08 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] MongoDB for Python Developers starts today
Message-ID: <CA+UBrj6Ji192X5y5dFuLJq9ymbYd01Cwwm5FB-tuHpdxCEV=9Q@mail.gmail.com>

It's Free. FYI if your have the time/bandwidth:

https://education.10gen.com/courses/10gen/M101P/2013_Spring/about


Cheers,


Glen
-- 

"Pursue, keep up with, circle round and round your life as a dog does his
master's chase. Do what you love. Know your own bone; gnaw at it, bury it,
unearth it, and gnaw it still."

--Henry David Thoreau
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From ashish.makani at gmail.com  Wed Jan 23 18:23:25 2013
From: ashish.makani at gmail.com (ashish makani)
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 22:53:25 +0530
Subject: [Baypiggies] Good Django tutorial
In-Reply-To: <CAEX1urjPuLo3G4h3DrOQWRKpBoZf_G3Z4sRxTas8cZaPtwAfsA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEX1urjPuLo3G4h3DrOQWRKpBoZf_G3Z4sRxTas8cZaPtwAfsA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEX1urh2iYKzdoM9Zwd0sZUzJ2ygr-c0ZAAQRB7apeP3aHsVdQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Folks

I came across a good django tutorial on hn, so thought of sharing it with
all you pythonistas

http://gettingstartedwithdjango.com/en/lessons/introduction-and-launch/

(hn discussion : http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5098832 )

cheers
ashish



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From motoom at xs4all.nl  Wed Jan 23 18:46:17 2013
From: motoom at xs4all.nl (Michiel Overtoom)
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 18:46:17 +0100
Subject: [Baypiggies] Good Django tutorial
In-Reply-To: <CAEX1urh2iYKzdoM9Zwd0sZUzJ2ygr-c0ZAAQRB7apeP3aHsVdQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEX1urjPuLo3G4h3DrOQWRKpBoZf_G3Z4sRxTas8cZaPtwAfsA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEX1urh2iYKzdoM9Zwd0sZUzJ2ygr-c0ZAAQRB7apeP3aHsVdQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <757698B4-ACD6-4B27-B7C6-2AB188F7FC86@xs4all.nl>


On Jan 23, 2013, at 18:23, ashish makani wrote:

> I came across a good django tutorial on hn, so thought of sharing it with all you pythonistas
> http://gettingstartedwithdjango.com/en/lessons/introduction-and-launch/
> (hn discussion : http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5098832 )

I saw this too on HackerNews, and upvoted it ;-)

Greetings,

-- 
"A creative man is motivated by the desire to achieve, not by the desire to beat others." - Ayn Rand


From spmcinerney at hotmail.com  Wed Jan 23 21:04:12 2013
From: spmcinerney at hotmail.com (Stephen McInerney)
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 12:04:12 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] FW: SBA Business Seminars and Workshops - January 22nd
 to February 8th
In-Reply-To: <1358518240330.1539048.154653760.bulletin.news@updates.sba.gov>
References: <1358518240330.1539048.154653760.bulletin.news@updates.sba.gov>
Message-ID: <BAY155-W251FA59CAAFEE9323CFA3CA0150@phx.gbl>



FYI, this useful SF SBA course is running tonight (and there are many others on the Jan/Feb SF SBA calendar) - Stephen
How to Write an Independent Contractor Agreement 
1/23 - Wednesday             6:00 PM ? 8:00 PM 
Successful
 independent contractor project outcome often depends on establishing 
and documenting realistic expectations for contract scope, performance 
standards, and pricing.  This interactive workshop will guide you step 
by step through the process of creating a simple, generic independent 
contractor agreement that works.  Although taught by an experienced 
business attorney, this class does not constitute legal advice.  
Presented by the San Francisco Community Business Law Center.  

 		 	   		  
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From sharma.shubhra07 at gmail.com  Thu Jan 24 02:00:20 2013
From: sharma.shubhra07 at gmail.com (Shubhra Sharma)
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 17:00:20 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Is pexpect supported in python3.x yet?
Message-ID: <CABFOHTzOnEO3uvOYo1RCKParBvCz_+_Yv2vwUM-VXN9PLWac0A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

I have 2 questions about pexpect support for python3.x.:

   - Is it officially supported yet? If yes, is there a macport for it.
   port search only shows upto 2.4. Please see below.

nintendo 3ds:site-packages ssharma$ sudo port search pexpect
Password:
py-pexpect @2.4 (python)
    python module for better controlling other applications

py24-pexpect @2.4 (python)
    python module for better controlling other applications

py25-pexpect @2.4 (python)
    python module for better controlling other applications

py26-pexpect @2.4 (python)
    python module for better controlling other applications

py27-pexpect @2.4 (python)
    python module for better controlling other applications


   - What is pexpect_u-2.5.1-py3.2.egg for? I downloaded it from
   http://pypi.python.org/pypi/pexpect-u and put it under site-packages
   which caused python to crash. I removed it and python is running fine now.

Thanks,

Shubhra
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From davidoff56 at alluvialsw.com  Thu Jan 24 20:10:22 2013
From: davidoff56 at alluvialsw.com (Monte Davidoff)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 11:10:22 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Is pexpect supported in python3.x yet?
In-Reply-To: <CABFOHTzOnEO3uvOYo1RCKParBvCz_+_Yv2vwUM-VXN9PLWac0A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABFOHTzOnEO3uvOYo1RCKParBvCz_+_Yv2vwUM-VXN9PLWac0A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5101871E.1060901@alluvialsw.com>

On 1/23/13 5:00 PM, Shubhra Sharma wrote:
>
> I have 2 questions about pexpect support for python3.x.:
>   * Is it officially supported yet? If yes, is there a macport for it.

The pexpect package <http://pypi.python.org/pypi/pexpect/> does not 
support Python 3.  Pexpect-U <http://pypi.python.org/pypi/pexpect-u/> is 
a fork that supports Unicode and Python 3.  There does not appear to be 
a port in MacPorts for Pexpect-U.

>   * What is pexpect_u-2.5.1-py3.2.egg for?

Install egg files with easy_install.  Google for something like: python 
installing egg file.

Monte

From cappy2112 at gmail.com  Thu Jan 24 22:59:05 2013
From: cappy2112 at gmail.com (Tony Cappellini)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 13:59:05 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Baypiggies meeting Jan 24, 2013
Message-ID: <CABRXM4ms2gBM9Ox=vw6DQQ=PVC3S2sBrzwNNamJ7jO7DO3uuqA@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Everyone

Tonight's meeting will be on Fabric given by Stephen McQuay
The meeting will start at 7:40PM, after the usual announcements.


For meeting details, please go to the Baypiggies website at
http://www.baypiggies.net/

Hope to see you at the meeting tonight.

From cappy2112 at gmail.com  Sat Jan 26 00:05:39 2013
From: cappy2112 at gmail.com (Tony Cappellini)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 15:05:39 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Is anyone from Baypiggies a member of the Hacker Dojo?
Message-ID: <CABRXM4==CW0jg+7SmBG83v+aVVR7oWJpO8eOu-ZG4er08q1Y=A@mail.gmail.com>

If any of you are members of the Hacker Dojo, would you please reply *offline*?

I'm trying to see if we can get the Dojo to host a special Baypiggies meeting.
A representative from The Dojo said we would need to have one of our
members submit the request.


Thanks

From akwright at me.com  Sat Jan 26 01:19:17 2013
From: akwright at me.com (Kevin Wright)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 16:19:17 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] FYI. installing fabric for the Mac and Fedora (Linux)
Message-ID: <A6986E14-67A6-4836-A42F-1E1A5B23F613@me.com>

Hi,

Some quick info I wanted to share with the list.

I have been having an interesting time working on setting up some automation using fab. It's pretty easy and very convenient. I would like to thank Stephen for taking the time to share his knowledge with us.

I realize that some people use pip and easy_install but I found some other ways to install fabric.

1) Mac
I use Mac Ports. The command is simply:

$ sudo port install py-fabric

2) Fedora 

$ yum install fabric

I'm assuming that the debian distributions also have fabric available in their repos. 

Cheers,
--Kevin


From akwright at mac.com  Sat Jan 26 02:24:44 2013
From: akwright at mac.com (Kevin Wright)
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 17:24:44 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] FYI. installing fabric for the Mac and Fedora (Linux)
Message-ID: <585EEC3E-4197-4CBE-9F6A-AF13013C7FF9@mac.com>

Hi,

Some quick info I wanted to share with the list.

I have been having an interesting time working on setting up some automation using fab. It's pretty easy and very convenient. I would like to thank Stephen for taking the time to share his knowledge with us.

I realize that some people use pip and easy_install but I found some other ways to install fabric.

1) Mac
I use Mac Ports. The command is simply:

$ sudo port install py-fabric

2) Fedora 

$ yum install fabric

I'm assuming that the debian distributions also have fabric available in their repos. 

Cheers,
--Kevin

From glen at glenjarvis.com  Sun Jan 27 20:13:52 2013
From: glen at glenjarvis.com (Glen Jarvis)
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 11:13:52 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Virtualization | Red-Pill-Blue-Pill (Virtualization)
	materials are online
Message-ID: <CA+UBrj7MDdFvfykEz_BvqeffSEXo4PsG7417dVRmj_O4Bvo-bA@mail.gmail.com>

I am so happy (and a little embarrassed). After our last BayPIGgies (and
MeetUp) meeting, I had so many requests for my previous months materials.
They were supposed to be published immediately after the talk. I now know
what happened and can explain that. But, since that could sound like
excuses, I've moved the explanation to the bottom of this email. For those
interested in just getting there materials, here they are:

Repo of work (including code and Laboratory/PDF walk-through lab document):

    https://github.com/glenjarvis/red-pill-blue-pill


A screencast of my practice run through (more material on virtual
environments) were covered (It's also a large file, so you may want to just
click and watch it, but not download it):

    https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1tPdExbbaW0dDdUZVUtd3I0aFU/edit


The original presentation materials are here:

    http://prezi.com/user/glenjarvis



For those interested in what caused this delay, here's the story:

The sample screencast was a way for me to practice. It is a simple direct
recording from QuickTime. I couldn't stop/start/edit/etc with this free
installed version. So, what you see is what you get (with errors).

It's also not streamlined for the web at all. I found it so valuable for
someone who wasn't at the talk, I tried to find a way of including it. I
uploaded to YouTube only to be told it's longer than 15 minutes after the
*long* upload (doh!).

By then, it was time for the presentation. So, I gave the presentation and
told everyone I'd have the materials pushed that evening (i.e., Throw it
all into github, push, and let everyone figure out what they want)).

Here's the problem I encountered when pushing to git hub (everything
together in the commit (to get it done and over with so it could be
consumed by those interested):

Counting objects: 118, done.
Delta compression using up to 8 threads.
Compressing objects: 100% (111/111), done.
error: RPC failed; result=22, HTTP code = 413 505 KiB/s
fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
Writing objects: 100% (115/115), 442.17 MiB | 3.40 MiB/s, done.
Total 115 (delta 53), reused 0 (delta 0)
fatal: recursion detected in die handler

If one walks away from the large upload and doesn't check the messages
carefully, nothing will actually make it to github. And, then we wait
another month for wonderful people to ask and show interest (which makes me
so happy).

I struggled for the past three hours getting these files into a form that
could be consumed. Google Docs also choked for a while on this larger file.
But, it's there now. And, I took out the downloaded Prezi Presentation
(also large and choking), put a link into the Prezi site and all materials
are ready (even though spread over three sites and the original link from
my web page is still broken). Regardless, the first iteration is done and
now we can work on the second :)


Thank you for your patience,


Kindest Regards,



Glen Jarvis

-- 

"Pursue, keep up with, circle round and round your life as a dog does his
master's chase. Do what you love. Know your own bone; gnaw at it, bury it,
unearth it, and gnaw it still."

--Henry David Thoreau
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From glen at glenjarvis.com  Sun Jan 27 20:42:00 2013
From: glen at glenjarvis.com (Glen Jarvis)
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 11:42:00 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Volunteer for new talk (if there is interest): Vagrant
Message-ID: <CA+UBrj4+=4XvWZKUjXc05yc1soGMae=2QBQPs+m2BLs1M5LKvA@mail.gmail.com>

Although I said in the last meeting that I may discuss RabbitMQ, I think
that's too early for me (even with the 4 months lag time). However, we seem
to have a theme right now and I am learning something that fits right in
that theme.

December: Virtualization (and how to start AWS instances just from Python
Code)
January: Fabric (How do you manage all of those virtual machines that you
just started)
February: (already booked up) (Possibly a talk on salt if the original
designated author doesn't mind moving his time slot and salt author can be
arranged)
March: (already booked up)
April: <== I can take this one

Tony,
    If you have no takers (and we get enough +1s to merit the talk), I can
shoot for April (or another slot if you have other takers for April).


All,
    Vagrant is a tool that is *NOT* written in Python (It's written in
Ruby). It's nothing but a way of making VirtualBox (and instances created
within VirtualBox) controllable by the command line. (VirtualBox also not
written in Python).

    However, this gives us leverage to use Python tools on virtual machines
locally.What this gives you is a way of testing virtual machines without
having to use Amazon's AWS (and without paying the money). You can do this
to, for example, spin up a new machine of a completely different operating
system and, for example, test your Fabric script that pushes data to this
machine. Or, similarly, you could test your Salt installations.

    Typically, this is done as a precursor to test/iterate in the earlier
phases of the development cycle before it's necessary to spin up machines
on, for example Amazon or Rackspace.

     So, although these tools themselves are not written in Python, we
aren't configuring/modifying the tools -- we're simply using them as a
black box so we can use Python tools to manipulate, deploy, etc.

Any interest?


G
-- 

"Pursue, keep up with, circle round and round your life as a dog does his
master's chase. Do what you love. Know your own bone; gnaw at it, bury it,
unearth it, and gnaw it still."

--Henry David Thoreau
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From glen at glenjarvis.com  Sun Jan 27 20:52:00 2013
From: glen at glenjarvis.com (Glen Jarvis)
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 11:52:00 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Two Communities / One Vision
Message-ID: <CA+UBrj7w0epXE218Us-OmM_+4AZC1HUswvPxhuLVCt5+H3YpaA@mail.gmail.com>

There are two communities that have been coming together:

* The Bay Area Python Interest Group (BayPIGgies; http://baypiggies.net/)
* The Silicon Valley Python Meetup (
http://www.meetup.com/silicon-valley-python/)

Although these two communities are distinct and separate, we come together
often to pool resources. If you are a member of one, you may also be
interested in being a member of the other.

BayPIGgies is a fixed formula that has been meeting regular for longer than
I have a memory. They have a very stable community and fixed formula for
when to meet and where.

The Silicon Valley Python Meetup has many more types of MeetUps and
individuals are empowered to create their own without having an organizer
involved. For example, "HackerX (Python) Developer Ticket" was recently put
on the calendar, space was found, and the MeetUp happened completely
without the organizer's involvement.

Tony is the BayPIGgies organizer. Glen is the MeetUp organizer. We often
cross-promote our groups so that the community is informed of all the
Python goodness around them.

Cheers,


Glen
-- 

"Pursue, keep up with, circle round and round your life as a dog does his
master's chase. Do what you love. Know your own bone; gnaw at it, bury it,
unearth it, and gnaw it still."

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From erin.lynn.root at gmail.com  Sun Jan 27 23:28:35 2013
From: erin.lynn.root at gmail.com (Lynn Root)
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 14:28:35 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Volunteer for new talk (if there is interest):
	Vagrant
In-Reply-To: <CA+UBrj4+=4XvWZKUjXc05yc1soGMae=2QBQPs+m2BLs1M5LKvA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+UBrj4+=4XvWZKUjXc05yc1soGMae=2QBQPs+m2BLs1M5LKvA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALrEYi_NqNN==Az8Y8KW=S0BxksQ6DJg0UepZhuePyjZK7U-+g@mail.gmail.com>

+1 would love to hear more about Vagrant.


On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Glen Jarvis <glen at glenjarvis.com> wrote:

> Although I said in the last meeting that I may discuss RabbitMQ, I think
> that's too early for me (even with the 4 months lag time). However, we seem
> to have a theme right now and I am learning something that fits right in
> that theme.
>
> December: Virtualization (and how to start AWS instances just from Python
> Code)
> January: Fabric (How do you manage all of those virtual machines that you
> just started)
> February: (already booked up) (Possibly a talk on salt if the original
> designated author doesn't mind moving his time slot and salt author can be
> arranged)
> March: (already booked up)
> April: <== I can take this one
>
> Tony,
>     If you have no takers (and we get enough +1s to merit the talk), I can
> shoot for April (or another slot if you have other takers for April).
>
>
> All,
>     Vagrant is a tool that is *NOT* written in Python (It's written in
> Ruby). It's nothing but a way of making VirtualBox (and instances created
> within VirtualBox) controllable by the command line. (VirtualBox also not
> written in Python).
>
>     However, this gives us leverage to use Python tools on virtual
> machines locally.What this gives you is a way of testing virtual machines
> without having to use Amazon's AWS (and without paying the money). You can
> do this to, for example, spin up a new machine of a completely different
> operating system and, for example, test your Fabric script that pushes data
> to this machine. Or, similarly, you could test your Salt installations.
>
>     Typically, this is done as a precursor to test/iterate in the earlier
> phases of the development cycle before it's necessary to spin up machines
> on, for example Amazon or Rackspace.
>
>      So, although these tools themselves are not written in Python, we
> aren't configuring/modifying the tools -- we're simply using them as a
> black box so we can use Python tools to manipulate, deploy, etc.
>
> Any interest?
>
>
> G
> --
>
> "Pursue, keep up with, circle round and round your life as a dog does his
> master's chase. Do what you love. Know your own bone; gnaw at it, bury it,
> unearth it, and gnaw it still."
>
> --Henry David Thoreau
>
> _______________________________________________
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From jdunck at gmail.com  Sun Jan 27 23:45:47 2013
From: jdunck at gmail.com (Jeremy Dunck)
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 14:45:47 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Volunteer for new talk (if there is interest):
	Vagrant
In-Reply-To: <CA+UBrj4+=4XvWZKUjXc05yc1soGMae=2QBQPs+m2BLs1M5LKvA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+UBrj4+=4XvWZKUjXc05yc1soGMae=2QBQPs+m2BLs1M5LKvA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <63FB8A2C-E2A4-4406-9451-1F2FBAD59D63@gmail.com>


On Jan 27, 2013, at 11:42 AM, Glen Jarvis <glen at glenjarvis.com> wrote:

> 
> All,
>     Vagrant is a tool that is *NOT* written in Python (It's written in Ruby). It's nothing but a way of making VirtualBox (and instances created within VirtualBox) controllable by the command line. (VirtualBox also not written in Python).
> 

It may be useful to note that Vagrant devs are working to add support for other vm systems. VirtualBox is the only current one, though.  I'd summarize vagrant as: a scripting environment for virtual machine creation.  I'm a fan. 

>     However, this gives us leverage to use Python tools on virtual machines locally.What this gives you is a way of testing virtual machines without having to use Amazon's AWS (and without paying the money). You can do this to, for example, spin up a new machine of a completely different operating system and, for example, test your Fabric script that pushes data to this machine. Or, similarly, you could test your Salt installations.
> 
>     Typically, this is done as a precursor to test/iterate in the earlier phases of the development cycle before it's necessary to spin up machines on, for example Amazon or Rackspace.
> 
>      So, although these tools themselves are not written in Python, we aren't configuring/modifying the tools -- we're simply using them as a black box so we can use Python tools to manipulate, deploy, etc.
> 
> Any interest?
> 
> 
> G
> -- 
> "Pursue, keep up with, circle round and round your life as a dog does his master's chase. Do what you love. Know your own bone; gnaw at it, bury it, unearth it, and gnaw it still."
> 
> --Henry David Thoreau
> 
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From bryceverdier at gmail.com  Mon Jan 28 07:24:01 2013
From: bryceverdier at gmail.com (Bryce Verdier)
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:24:01 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Volunteer for new talk (if there is interest):
	Vagrant
In-Reply-To: <CA+UBrj4+=4XvWZKUjXc05yc1soGMae=2QBQPs+m2BLs1M5LKvA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+UBrj4+=4XvWZKUjXc05yc1soGMae=2QBQPs+m2BLs1M5LKvA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANeGHvWvizFNNG-o118miRfF4LGcUntUVsbQSrkfwcjyza--9w@mail.gmail.com>

+1
On Jan 27, 2013 11:42 AM, "Glen Jarvis" <glen at glenjarvis.com> wrote:

> Although I said in the last meeting that I may discuss RabbitMQ, I think
> that's too early for me (even with the 4 months lag time). However, we seem
> to have a theme right now and I am learning something that fits right in
> that theme.
>
> December: Virtualization (and how to start AWS instances just from Python
> Code)
> January: Fabric (How do you manage all of those virtual machines that you
> just started)
> February: (already booked up) (Possibly a talk on salt if the original
> designated author doesn't mind moving his time slot and salt author can be
> arranged)
> March: (already booked up)
> April: <== I can take this one
>
> Tony,
>     If you have no takers (and we get enough +1s to merit the talk), I can
> shoot for April (or another slot if you have other takers for April).
>
>
> All,
>     Vagrant is a tool that is *NOT* written in Python (It's written in
> Ruby). It's nothing but a way of making VirtualBox (and instances created
> within VirtualBox) controllable by the command line. (VirtualBox also not
> written in Python).
>
>     However, this gives us leverage to use Python tools on virtual
> machines locally.What this gives you is a way of testing virtual machines
> without having to use Amazon's AWS (and without paying the money). You can
> do this to, for example, spin up a new machine of a completely different
> operating system and, for example, test your Fabric script that pushes data
> to this machine. Or, similarly, you could test your Salt installations.
>
>     Typically, this is done as a precursor to test/iterate in the earlier
> phases of the development cycle before it's necessary to spin up machines
> on, for example Amazon or Rackspace.
>
>      So, although these tools themselves are not written in Python, we
> aren't configuring/modifying the tools -- we're simply using them as a
> black box so we can use Python tools to manipulate, deploy, etc.
>
> Any interest?
>
>
> G
> --
>
> "Pursue, keep up with, circle round and round your life as a dog does his
> master's chase. Do what you love. Know your own bone; gnaw at it, bury it,
> unearth it, and gnaw it still."
>
> --Henry David Thoreau
>
> _______________________________________________
> Baypiggies mailing list
> Baypiggies at python.org
> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies
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From bryceverdier at gmail.com  Tue Jan 29 01:08:20 2013
From: bryceverdier at gmail.com (Bryce Verdier)
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:08:20 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Answer to my question regarding Python crashing with
	DNS requests
Message-ID: <510712F4.8070701@gmail.com>

During the last BayPiggies I asked the audience share possible solutions 
or further ways to debug a problem I was having with CentOS 6.3 and 
Python resolving DNS. After noticing that the error occured when the box 
did NOT make the request to DNS, I started to play with some options in 
/etc/resolv.conf. Removing "options: rotate" fixed the problem. After 
figuring that out I came across this bug:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=841787

Isn't that just the way. ;)

Thank you again everyone for the ideas to help figure this out!

Bryce

From cappy2112 at gmail.com  Tue Jan 29 23:41:04 2013
From: cappy2112 at gmail.com (Tony Cappellini)
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 14:41:04 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Looking for a one-time venue for a special Baypiggies
	presentation in February
Message-ID: <CABRXM4myfjtY=R+v+Vzf5mrp0CoAGDzR1cjLV5e9qP5JXLR1VA@mail.gmail.com>

During the Baypiggies meeting last Thursday, Stephen McQuay mentioned
that Thomas Hatch, the creator of SALT would be in the area
on Feb 20.

Thomas S. Hatch  |  Founder, CTO
5272 South College Drive, Suite 301 | Murray, UT 84123
thatch at saltstack.com | www.saltstack.com

Thomas has offered to do a presentation for us- on Feb 21, but we
don't have a venue. Symantec has the room booked on the 21st.
Do any of you have connections that would provide us with a venue on
Feb 21st, from 7:30-9PM (time is somewhat negotiable)?


Thanks


Tony

From rbalfanz at gmail.com  Wed Jan 30 00:05:18 2013
From: rbalfanz at gmail.com (Ryan Matthew Balfanz)
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:05:18 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Looking for a one-time venue for a special
 Baypiggies presentation in February
In-Reply-To: <CABRXM4myfjtY=R+v+Vzf5mrp0CoAGDzR1cjLV5e9qP5JXLR1VA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABRXM4myfjtY=R+v+Vzf5mrp0CoAGDzR1cjLV5e9qP5JXLR1VA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAN0Zeh+kfgxH7GjNfaCkZw067R44et2YhkTLVi2ZxBfk-yEpEg@mail.gmail.com>

I can probably provide a venue, but in SF?


On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Tony Cappellini <cappy2112 at gmail.com>wrote:

> During the Baypiggies meeting last Thursday, Stephen McQuay mentioned
> that Thomas Hatch, the creator of SALT would be in the area
> on Feb 20.
>
> Thomas S. Hatch  |  Founder, CTO
> 5272 South College Drive, Suite 301 | Murray, UT 84123
> thatch at saltstack.com | www.saltstack.com
>
> Thomas has offered to do a presentation for us- on Feb 21, but we
> don't have a venue. Symantec has the room booked on the 21st.
> Do any of you have connections that would provide us with a venue on
> Feb 21st, from 7:30-9PM (time is somewhat negotiable)?
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Tony
> _______________________________________________
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From michaelglennmoore at gmail.com  Wed Jan 30 01:23:16 2013
From: michaelglennmoore at gmail.com (Michael Moore)
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:23:16 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] ON THE WATERFRONT
Message-ID: <CA+SJ7WHZjQVb6Fj6J-Bqtc3ENR+RNGrBNZ6dD4eBQzOw3WicZQ@mail.gmail.com>

In Seattle, need Python Dev with RESTful/NoSQL AmazonS3/EC2 type experience
with mostly backend work for a highly scalable app.

And yes, we work on the 3rd floor of a pier on the Waterfront.

Send me your interest and resume and I will forward to the project
manager.  I am just one of the devs, but I was asked to do this.

Michael Moore
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From simeonf at gmail.com  Wed Jan 30 01:37:41 2013
From: simeonf at gmail.com (Simeon Franklin)
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:37:41 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] ON THE WATERFRONT
In-Reply-To: <CA+SJ7WHZjQVb6Fj6J-Bqtc3ENR+RNGrBNZ6dD4eBQzOw3WicZQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+SJ7WHZjQVb6Fj6J-Bqtc3ENR+RNGrBNZ6dD4eBQzOw3WicZQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAK0d_Grdr+s1vst0_6E0dyQNGeU6RmF=EzzPeDvkoEMxCN4z7A@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Michael - don't let anybody talk you into spamming your fellow
devs! Baypiggies has a jobs policy (see
http://baypiggies.net/job-listings). Only job postings local to the
Bay Area are allowed.

-regards
Simeon Franklin

On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Michael Moore
<michaelglennmoore at gmail.com> wrote:
> In Seattle, need Python Dev with RESTful/NoSQL AmazonS3/EC2 type experience
> with mostly backend work for a highly scalable app.
>
> And yes, we work on the 3rd floor of a pier on the Waterfront.
>
> Send me your interest and resume and I will forward to the project manager.
> I am just one of the devs, but I was asked to do this.
>
> Michael Moore
> '
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Baypiggies at python.org
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From erin.lynn.root at gmail.com  Wed Jan 30 02:49:54 2013
From: erin.lynn.root at gmail.com (Lynn Root)
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 17:49:54 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Looking for a one-time venue for a special
 Baypiggies presentation in February
In-Reply-To: <CAN0Zeh+kfgxH7GjNfaCkZw067R44et2YhkTLVi2ZxBfk-yEpEg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABRXM4myfjtY=R+v+Vzf5mrp0CoAGDzR1cjLV5e9qP5JXLR1VA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAN0Zeh+kfgxH7GjNfaCkZw067R44et2YhkTLVi2ZxBfk-yEpEg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALrEYi_hTAXh7Hzk94T0ArNkrY1bx2qDPdVB7f0Ebv2N5KorSw@mail.gmail.com>

If south bay is needed, I have no shame in seeing if Red Hat and I can host.

Sent from my cloud device.
On Jan 29, 2013 3:06 PM, "Ryan Matthew Balfanz" <rbalfanz at gmail.com> wrote:

> I can probably provide a venue, but in SF?
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Tony Cappellini <cappy2112 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> During the Baypiggies meeting last Thursday, Stephen McQuay mentioned
>> that Thomas Hatch, the creator of SALT would be in the area
>> on Feb 20.
>>
>> Thomas S. Hatch  |  Founder, CTO
>> 5272 South College Drive, Suite 301 | Murray, UT 84123
>> thatch at saltstack.com | www.saltstack.com
>>
>> Thomas has offered to do a presentation for us- on Feb 21, but we
>> don't have a venue. Symantec has the room booked on the 21st.
>> Do any of you have connections that would provide us with a venue on
>> Feb 21st, from 7:30-9PM (time is somewhat negotiable)?
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> Tony
>> _______________________________________________
>> Baypiggies mailing list
>> Baypiggies at python.org
>> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies
>>
>
>
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From bryceverdier at gmail.com  Wed Jan 30 18:37:34 2013
From: bryceverdier at gmail.com (Bryce Verdier)
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 09:37:34 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Looking for a one-time venue for a special
 Baypiggies presentation in February
In-Reply-To: <CALrEYi_hTAXh7Hzk94T0ArNkrY1bx2qDPdVB7f0Ebv2N5KorSw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABRXM4myfjtY=R+v+Vzf5mrp0CoAGDzR1cjLV5e9qP5JXLR1VA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAN0Zeh+kfgxH7GjNfaCkZw067R44et2YhkTLVi2ZxBfk-yEpEg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALrEYi_hTAXh7Hzk94T0ArNkrY1bx2qDPdVB7f0Ebv2N5KorSw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <51095A5E.60208@gmail.com>

I might be able to do something where I work in DT San Jose. Let me see 
what I can do.

Bryce

On 01/29/2013 05:49 PM, Lynn Root wrote:
>
> If south bay is needed, I have no shame in seeing if Red Hat and I can 
> host.
>
> Sent from my cloud device.
>
> On Jan 29, 2013 3:06 PM, "Ryan Matthew Balfanz" <rbalfanz at gmail.com 
> <mailto:rbalfanz at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     I can probably provide a venue, but in SF...
>
>
>     On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Tony Cappellini
>     <cappy2112 at gmail.com <mailto:cappy2112 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         During the Baypiggies meeting last Thursday, Stephen McQuay
>         mentioned
>         that Thomas Hatch, the creator of SALT would be in the area
>         on Feb 20.
>
>         Thomas S. Hatch  |  Founder, CTO
>         5272 South College Drive, Suite 301 | Murray, UT 84123
>         thatch at saltstack.com <mailto:thatch at saltstack.com> |
>         www.saltstack.com <http://www.saltstack.com>
>
>         Thomas has offered to do a presentation for us- on Feb 21, but we
>         don't have a venue. Symantec has the room booked on the 21st.
>         Do any of you have connections that would provide us with a
>         venue on
>         Feb 21st, from 7:30-9PM (time is somewhat negotiable)?
>
>
>         Thanks
>
>
>         Tony
>         _______________________________________________
>         Baypiggies mailing list
>         Baypiggies at python.org <mailto:Baypiggies at python.org>
>         To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
>         http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies
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>
>
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From aahz at pythoncraft.com  Thu Jan 31 19:54:16 2013
From: aahz at pythoncraft.com (Aahz)
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 13:54:16 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Baypiggies] Final reminder: OSCON Call for Proposals (deadline 2/4)
Message-ID: <20130131185416.473183465B@mailbackend.panix.com>

DEADLINE Monday February 4

OSCON (O'Reilly Open Source Convention), the premier Open Source
gathering, will be held in Portland, OR July 22-26.  We're looking for
people to deliver tutorials and shorter presentations.

http://www.oscon.com/oscon2013
http://www.oscon.com/oscon2013/public/cfp/251

Hope to see you there!
-- 
Aahz (aahz at pythoncraft.com)           <*>         http://www.pythoncraft.com/

"The joy of coding Python should be in seeing short, concise, readable
classes that express a lot of action in a small amount of clear code --
not in reams of trivial code that bores the reader to death."  --GvR