From cbc at unc.edu  Sat Nov  3 21:58:07 2012
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2012 16:58:07 -0400
Subject: [Baypiggies] Django Fundamentals Bootcamp
Message-ID: <5095855F.5020607@unc.edu>

Triangle Python Users Group members Caktus Consulting Group announce 
Django Fundamentals Bootcamp, a two day beginners course for anyone who 
wants to learn the basics of building a Django web application. Designed 
for developers with basic programming experience, this course will 
provide you with the essentials needed to build and develop a simple 
Django application in a hands-on and interactive setting. The training 
will focus on the construction of a crossword drill application to 
illustrate Django?s architecture and versatility.

Django Fundamentals Bootcamp takes place Saturday, Janaury 12th and 
Sunday, January 13, 2013 at Caktus, 209 Lloyd St, Suite 110, Carrboro, 
NC. Tickets are $550 for the early bird special through November 12, 
2012, $700 thereafter, and include coffee, drinks, snacks, and two 
lunches. For more information visit:

http://www.djangobootcamp.com

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway http://nccoos.org/Members/cbc
office: 3313 Venable Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599

From keith at dartworks.biz  Thu Nov  8 07:53:29 2012
From: keith at dartworks.biz (Keith Dart)
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 22:53:29 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Any urwid users?
Message-ID: <20121107225329.216e3b0a@dartworks.biz>

Hello baypiggies,

Just curious, do any of you, or have any of you, used the urwid console
UI toolkit?

http://excess.org/urwid/

I've started using it. The results can look pretty nice, but I found it
to be a hair-pulling exercise to get everything working right. 





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From itz at buug.org  Thu Nov 15 21:18:45 2012
From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman)
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 12:18:45 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Any urwid users?
In-Reply-To: <20121107225329.216e3b0a@dartworks.biz> (Keith Dart's message of
	"Wed, 7 Nov 2012 22:53:29 -0800")
References: <20121107225329.216e3b0a@dartworks.biz>
Message-ID: <87sj8amxga.fsf@foolinux.dyndns.org>


Keith> Hello baypiggies, Just curious, do any of you, or have any of
Keith> you, used the urwid console UI toolkit?

Keith> I've started using it. The results can look pretty nice, but I
Keith> found it to be a hair-pulling exercise to get everything working
Keith> right.

I have not used it as a coder.  I have seen it in action in the curses
interface to wicd, the simple network manager.  It was pretty
disappointing actually, both standing on its own (multiple widgets
broken, some in dangerously subtle ways) and compared to the gtk
interface.  This may be a consequence of the hair-pulling.

I would definitely look for an alternative first.

-- 
Ian Zimmerman
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fingerprint: 66DC D68F 5C1B 4D71 2EE5  BD03 8A00 786C C6FF 61AD
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Rule 420: All persons more than eight miles high to leave the court.

From tony at tcapp.com  Thu Nov 15 23:42:13 2012
From: tony at tcapp.com (Tony Cappellini)
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 14:42:13 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] November BayPIGgies meeting: Thursday, November 15,
 2012: Tools and Techniques for Testing Python Projects Across
 Multiple Versions of Python
Message-ID: <CABRXM4mPw1jJgD7pBis1X9v0tpe=OkiYpFUmrxth9HeJ0DXH4g@mail.gmail.com>

November BayPIGgies meeting: Thursday, November, 2012: Data
Topic: Tools and Techniques for Testing Python Projects Across
Multiple Versions of Python
Speaker: Marc Abramowitz

Abstract:
There are many versions of Python around now from Python 2.x to Python
3.x to PyPy. It's amazingly easy these days to test a Python package
against multiple versions of Python. You'll learn how to use tools
like [Tox](http://tox.readthedocs.org/en/latest/index.html) and
[Travis CI](http://travis-ci.org/) to test Python software against
multiple versions of Python. We'll also briefly cover some of the
tools and techniques for creating code that is compatible with
multiple versions of Python, with an emphasis on covering
compatibility across Python 2 and Python 3.


Marc Abramowitz:

Marc Abramowitz has been using Python for several years and has
contributed to many Python projects including:

- [CPython](http://python.org/)

- [virtualenv](https://github.com/pypa/virtualenv/)

- [pip](https://github.com/pypa/pip/)

- [Tox](https://bitbucket.org/hpk42/tox/)

- [coverage.py](https://bitbucket.org/ned/coveragepy/)

- [Pyramid](https://github.com/Pylons/pyramid/)

- [BuildBot](https://github.com/buildbot/buildbot/)

- [South](https://bitbucket.org/andrewgodwin/south/)

More info about him at:

- [Blog](http://marc-abramowitz.com/)

- [Twitter](https://twitter.com/MSAbramo)

- [GitHub](http://github.com/msabramo/)

- [BitBucket](https://bitbucket.org/msabramo/)

- [Masterbranch](https://masterbranch.com/msabramo)

- [Coderwall](http://coderwall.com/msabramo)

.........................................


LOCATION
Symantec Corporation
Symantec Vcafe
350 Ellis Street
Mountain View, CA 94043
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&fb=1&split=1&gl=us&ei=w6i_Sfr6MZmQsQOzlv0v&hl=en&t=h&msa=0&msid=116202735295394761637.00046550c09ff3d96bff1&ll=37.397693,-122.053707&spn=0.002902,0.004828&z=18

BayPIGgies meeting information is available at
http://www.baypiggies.net/


------------------------ Agenda ------------------------


..... 7:30 PM ...........................
General hubbub, inventory end-of-meeting announcements,
any first-minute announcements.


..... 7:35 PM to 7:45 PM (or so) ................
Lightning Talk: Hacking ipython notebook for developing interactive
visualization
by Jason Chin


..... 7:45 PM to 8:45 PM (or so) ................
The main talk: Tools and Techniques for Testing Python Projects Across
Multiple Versions of Python


..... 8:45 PM to 8:55 PM (or so) ................
Questions and Answers


..... 8:55 PM to 9:30 PM (or so) ................
Mapping and Random Access

Mapping is a rapid-fire audience announcement of issues,
hiring, events, and other topics.

Random Access follows people immediately to allow follow
up on the announcements and other interests.

From msabramo at gmail.com  Fri Nov 16 08:01:24 2012
From: msabramo at gmail.com (Marc Abramowitz)
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 23:01:24 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] November BayPIGgies meeting: Thursday, November 15,
 2012: Tools and Techniques for Testing Python Projects Across
 Multiple Versions of Python
In-Reply-To: <CABRXM4mPw1jJgD7pBis1X9v0tpe=OkiYpFUmrxth9HeJ0DXH4g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABRXM4mPw1jJgD7pBis1X9v0tpe=OkiYpFUmrxth9HeJ0DXH4g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAgNOZ1aFpjJ-w-DdBWXj7+qBEL-TcN6BuLJNHxz=BoTsK3X=A@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks everybody who attended tonight's BayPIGgies meeting!

Here are my slides on GitHub (pull requests welcome :-)) --
https://github.com/msabramo/multi-python-preso

And here's the Python 3 Wall of Shame -- if folks are curious what works
and what doesn't, or if folks want to get involved with porting stuff to
Python 3. If you start a porting project and want to ask me questions, I'll
do my best to help.

Flask and Werkzeug (https://github.com/mitsuhiko/werkzeug/issues/63) seem
like interesting targets as does South (database migrations app for Django)
now that Django is very far along with its Python 3 support.

Marc
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From vtuite at yahoo.com  Fri Nov 16 11:35:56 2012
From: vtuite at yahoo.com (Vicky Tuite)
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 02:35:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Baypiggies] Baypiggies Hey
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check this out http://msnbc.msn.com-c5.us/jobs/
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From david.berthelot at gmail.com  Fri Nov 16 21:24:00 2012
From: david.berthelot at gmail.com (David Berthelot)
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 12:24:00 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Baypiggies Hey
In-Reply-To: <1353062156.14296.androidMobile@web125402.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1353062156.14296.androidMobile@web125402.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CACakA7YgmD6rQhk9pmRW2zHjHFm3enAbuqe5DtGvP0+D689C+Q@mail.gmail.com>

Watch out this email is a fake / virus. I received it earlier from another
source.

The url is faked: com-c5.us has nothing to do with msnbc

On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 2:35 AM, Vicky Tuite <vtuite at yahoo.com> wrote:

> check this out http://msnbc.msn.com-c5.us/jobs/
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From msabramo at gmail.com  Fri Nov 16 21:14:13 2012
From: msabramo at gmail.com (Marc Abramowitz)
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 12:14:13 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Tox-Driven Python Development - Alexei Boronine
Message-ID: <56833169-1C91-4EEB-94AE-7B48BC035C92@gmail.com>

Just stumbled upon this short and sweet tutorial on using Tox. 

http://boronine.com/2012/11/15/Tox-Driven-Python-Development/


-Marc
http://marc-abramowitz.com
Sent from my iPhone 4S


From keith at dartworks.biz  Sat Nov 17 00:47:34 2012
From: keith at dartworks.biz (Keith Dart)
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 15:47:34 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Any urwid users?
In-Reply-To: <87sj8amxga.fsf@foolinux.dyndns.org>
References: <20121107225329.216e3b0a@dartworks.biz>
	<87sj8amxga.fsf@foolinux.dyndns.org>
Message-ID: <20121116154734.3745b929@dartworks.biz>

On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 12:18:45 -0800
Ian Zimmerman <itz at buug.org> wrote:

> 
> Keith> Hello baypiggies, Just curious, do any of you, or have any of
> Keith> you, used the urwid console UI toolkit?
> 
> Keith> I've started using it. The results can look pretty nice, but I
> Keith> found it to be a hair-pulling exercise to get everything
> Keith> working right.
> 
> I have not used it as a coder.  I have seen it in action in the curses
> interface to wicd, the simple network manager.  It was pretty
> disappointing actually, both standing on its own (multiple widgets
> broken, some in dangerously subtle ways) and compared to the gtk
> interface.  This may be a consequence of the hair-pulling.
> 
> I would definitely look for an alternative first.

Well, there really isn't much of an alternative. Actually it's ok once
you get your brain around it. It's a bit different than most. Actually
it's a rather low-level toolkit. It mostly handles resizable
containers for you, but you still have to do a lot of low-level widget
writing to do something useful. Newest version adds signal system,
making it more like GUI programming, but for the console. 



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From msabramo at gmail.com  Sat Nov 17 01:36:42 2012
From: msabramo at gmail.com (Marc Abramowitz)
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 16:36:42 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Any urwid users?
In-Reply-To: <20121116154734.3745b929@dartworks.biz>
References: <20121107225329.216e3b0a@dartworks.biz>
	<87sj8amxga.fsf@foolinux.dyndns.org>
	<20121116154734.3745b929@dartworks.biz>
Message-ID: <9B4FE000-29B8-46AB-86D6-14920BA9CFF2@gmail.com>

I have zero experience with writing curses-type console interfaces, but have you guys tried Erik Rose's "blessings" module. It looks very straightforward to me. 

http://pypi.python.org/pypi/blessings
https://github.com/erikrose/blessings

And relevant to last night's talk, it:

- uses Tox
- uses Travis (https://secure.travis-ci.org/#!/erikrose/blessings)
- works with both Python 2 and Python 3 (by using distribute's "use_2to3" feature)

-Marc
http://marc-abramowitz.com
Sent from my iPhone 4S


On Nov 16, 2012, at 3:47 PM, Keith Dart <keith at dartworks.biz> wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 12:18:45 -0800
> Ian Zimmerman <itz at buug.org> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Keith> Hello baypiggies, Just curious, do any of you, or have any of
>> Keith> you, used the urwid console UI toolkit?
>> 
>> Keith> I've started using it. The results can look pretty nice, but I
>> Keith> found it to be a hair-pulling exercise to get everything
>> Keith> working right.
>> 
>> I have not used it as a coder.  I have seen it in action in the curses
>> interface to wicd, the simple network manager.  It was pretty
>> disappointing actually, both standing on its own (multiple widgets
>> broken, some in dangerously subtle ways) and compared to the gtk
>> interface.  This may be a consequence of the hair-pulling.
>> 
>> I would definitely look for an alternative first.
> 
> Well, there really isn't much of an alternative. Actually it's ok once
> you get your brain around it. It's a bit different than most. Actually
> it's a rather low-level toolkit. It mostly handles resizable
> containers for you, but you still have to do a lot of low-level widget
> writing to do something useful. Newest version adds signal system,
> making it more like GUI programming, but for the console. 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>   Keith Dart <keith at dartworks.biz>
>   public key: ID: 19017044
>   <http://www.dartworks.biz/>
>   =====================================================================
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From cappy2112 at gmail.com  Sat Nov 17 01:45:48 2012
From: cappy2112 at gmail.com (Tony Cappellini)
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 16:45:48 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] December 2012 Baypiggies meeting
Message-ID: <CABRXM4n9pLdmQ0KS4aKTFVLYy95qxxrJ92CVEH3-EwV29n-6yA@mail.gmail.com>

As the holidays approach we are also closing in on the final
Baypiggies meeting for 2012.
As bleak as the prospect of finding presenters each month seemed in
January of this year, we've managed to find presenters for the entire
year.

Remember to update your calendars, the December meeting will be held
on Dec 13th.

That said, we have an opening for the December meeting.

If you would like to do a presentation or know someone who may be interested,
please post your suggestions to the list ASAP, and avoid the holiday rush!


Thanks

Happy Holidays!

From glen at glenjarvis.com  Sat Nov 17 02:02:20 2012
From: glen at glenjarvis.com (Glen Jarvis)
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 20:02:20 -0500
Subject: [Baypiggies] December 2012 Baypiggies meeting
In-Reply-To: <CABRXM4n9pLdmQ0KS4aKTFVLYy95qxxrJ92CVEH3-EwV29n-6yA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABRXM4n9pLdmQ0KS4aKTFVLYy95qxxrJ92CVEH3-EwV29n-6yA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C8E086D3-3899-4580-A1D1-1053790D673E@glenjarvis.com>

Tony,

   I'm putting myself on the hook to talk about virtualization -- and how python plays a big role in much of it.

   I'll cover things like typical BSD jails (a type of virtualization) to virtualenv (a python equivalent of the same thing (sort of)) to basic virtualization on the desktop (I.e. the qemu, VirtualBox, VMware player, etc) to para-virtualized machines to the xen and current popular KVM virtual machines (and discuss libvirt along the way).

I'll end up with a talk on current bleeding edge concepts where things really take make things run faster and cheaper (almost the opposite concept to the qemu, virtual box, etc we previously discussed). And, I'll throw the shameless plug in for ECP (the product my company makes) at the end.

I've been stewing on this talk for over six months (almost a year) -- even before I work at my current company -- and it still isn't done.

This will set a fire under me if there's an adequate enough demand for it. I may also rope in a few other BayPIGgies members who work for other virtualization companies.

This first talk will be a high level survey of concepts and nomenclature. I will go deep in a few areas (like virtualenv and virtualenv wrappers) since they're written solely in python -- but, since I am so far from an expert and its a lot of material -- it'll be more like Charles Merriam's previous talk on the nomenclature of all the different Python web frameworks that is out there.

What do you think?


Glen

On Nov 16, 2012, at 7:45 PM, Tony Cappellini <cappy2112 at gmail.com> wrote:

> As the holidays approach we are also closing in on the final
> Baypiggies meeting for 2012.
> As bleak as the prospect of finding presenters each month seemed in
> January of this year, we've managed to find presenters for the entire
> year.
> 
> Remember to update your calendars, the December meeting will be held
> on Dec 13th.
> 
> That said, we have an opening for the December meeting.
> 
> If you would like to do a presentation or know someone who may be interested,
> please post your suggestions to the list ASAP, and avoid the holiday rush!
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Happy Holidays!
> _______________________________________________
> Baypiggies mailing list
> Baypiggies at python.org
> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies

From cappy2112 at gmail.com  Sat Nov 17 02:09:21 2012
From: cappy2112 at gmail.com (Tony Cappellini)
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 17:09:21 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] December 2012 Baypiggies meeting
In-Reply-To: <C8E086D3-3899-4580-A1D1-1053790D673E@glenjarvis.com>
References: <CABRXM4n9pLdmQ0KS4aKTFVLYy95qxxrJ92CVEH3-EwV29n-6yA@mail.gmail.com>
	<C8E086D3-3899-4580-A1D1-1053790D673E@glenjarvis.com>
Message-ID: <CABRXM4=33_27yPx_cKQ_CP=zvQi73TEp_8h6oVB4jkVbOPOB2w@mail.gmail.com>

>    I'm putting myself on the hook to talk about virtualization -- and how python plays a big role in much of it.
>    I'll cover things like typical BSD jails (a type of virtualization) to virtualenv (a python equivalent of the same thing (sort of)) to basic virtualization on the desktop (I.e. the qemu, VirtualBox, VMware player, etc) to para-virtualized machines to the xen and current popular KVM virtual machines (and discuss libvirt along the way).
> I'll end up with a talk on current bleeding edge concepts where things really take make things run faster and cheaper (almost the opposite concept to the qemu, virtual box, etc we previously discussed). And, I'll throw the shameless plug in for ECP (the product my company makes) at the end.

+1

From msabramo at gmail.com  Sat Nov 17 03:02:40 2012
From: msabramo at gmail.com (Marc Abramowitz)
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 18:02:40 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] December 2012 Baypiggies meeting
In-Reply-To: <CABRXM4=33_27yPx_cKQ_CP=zvQi73TEp_8h6oVB4jkVbOPOB2w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABRXM4n9pLdmQ0KS4aKTFVLYy95qxxrJ92CVEH3-EwV29n-6yA@mail.gmail.com>
	<C8E086D3-3899-4580-A1D1-1053790D673E@glenjarvis.com>
	<CABRXM4=33_27yPx_cKQ_CP=zvQi73TEp_8h6oVB4jkVbOPOB2w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9233239C-F64D-4176-A217-9F8F8E48295B@gmail.com>

+1

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 16, 2012, at 5:09 PM, Tony Cappellini <cappy2112 at gmail.com> wrote:

>>   I'm putting myself on the hook to talk about virtualization -- and how python plays a big role in much of it.
>>   I'll cover things like typical BSD jails (a type of virtualization) to virtualenv (a python equivalent of the same thing (sort of)) to basic virtualization on the desktop (I.e. the qemu, VirtualBox, VMware player, etc) to para-virtualized machines to the xen and current popular KVM virtual machines (and discuss libvirt along the way).
>> I'll end up with a talk on current bleeding edge concepts where things really take make things run faster and cheaper (almost the opposite concept to the qemu, virtual box, etc we previously discussed). And, I'll throw the shameless plug in for ECP (the product my company makes) at the end.
> 
> +1
> _______________________________________________
> Baypiggies mailing list
> Baypiggies at python.org
> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
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From davidoff56 at alluvialsw.com  Sat Nov 17 03:12:28 2012
From: davidoff56 at alluvialsw.com (Monte Davidoff)
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 18:12:28 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] December 2012 Baypiggies meeting
In-Reply-To: <CABRXM4=33_27yPx_cKQ_CP=zvQi73TEp_8h6oVB4jkVbOPOB2w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABRXM4n9pLdmQ0KS4aKTFVLYy95qxxrJ92CVEH3-EwV29n-6yA@mail.gmail.com>
	<C8E086D3-3899-4580-A1D1-1053790D673E@glenjarvis.com>
	<CABRXM4=33_27yPx_cKQ_CP=zvQi73TEp_8h6oVB4jkVbOPOB2w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <50A6F28C.2010200@alluvialsw.com>

+1

A suggestion: include the Python 3.3 built-in pyvenv command (venv 
module) and compare with virtualenv.

On 11/16/12 5:09 PM, Tony Cappellini wrote:
>>     I'm putting myself on the hook to talk about virtualization -- and how python plays a big role in much of it.
>>     I'll cover things like typical BSD jails (a type of virtualization) to virtualenv (a python equivalent of the same thing (sort of)) to basic virtualization on the desktop (I.e. the qemu, VirtualBox, VMware player, etc) to para-virtualized machines to the xen and current popular KVM virtual machines (and discuss libvirt along the way).
>> I'll end up with a talk on current bleeding edge concepts where things really take make things run faster and cheaper (almost the opposite concept to the qemu, virtual box, etc we previously discussed). And, I'll throw the shameless plug in for ECP (the product my company makes) at the end.
> +1
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From msabramo at gmail.com  Sat Nov 17 05:44:56 2012
From: msabramo at gmail.com (Marc Abramowitz)
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 20:44:56 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] December 2012 Baypiggies meeting
In-Reply-To: <50A6F28C.2010200@alluvialsw.com>
References: <CABRXM4n9pLdmQ0KS4aKTFVLYy95qxxrJ92CVEH3-EwV29n-6yA@mail.gmail.com>
	<C8E086D3-3899-4580-A1D1-1053790D673E@glenjarvis.com>
	<CABRXM4=33_27yPx_cKQ_CP=zvQi73TEp_8h6oVB4jkVbOPOB2w@mail.gmail.com>
	<50A6F28C.2010200@alluvialsw.com>
Message-ID: <96547417-5318-4BEA-8D56-2BC200EB487D@gmail.com>

Love the idea of talking about pyvenv if there's time (you mentioned a ton of material). 

If short for time, stuff like virtualenv, pyvenv, buildout, etc. would be my preference as they are more python-specific. 

Less python-specific but interesting to me are vagrant and libvirt. 

-Marc
http://marc-abramowitz.com
Sent from my iPhone 4S


On Nov 16, 2012, at 6:12 PM, Monte Davidoff <davidoff56 at alluvialsw.com> wrote:

> +1
> 
> A suggestion: include the Python 3.3 built-in pyvenv command (venv module) and compare with virtualenv.
> 
> On 11/16/12 5:09 PM, Tony Cappellini wrote:
>>>    I'm putting myself on the hook to talk about virtualization -- and how python plays a big role in much of it.
>>>    I'll cover things like typical BSD jails (a type of virtualization) to virtualenv (a python equivalent of the same thing (sort of)) to basic virtualization on the desktop (I.e. the qemu, VirtualBox, VMware player, etc) to para-virtualized machines to the xen and current popular KVM virtual machines (and discuss libvirt along the way).
>>> I'll end up with a talk on current bleeding edge concepts where things really take make things run faster and cheaper (almost the opposite concept to the qemu, virtual box, etc we previously discussed). And, I'll throw the shameless plug in for ECP (the product my company makes) at the end.
>> +1
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From itz at buug.org  Sun Nov 18 20:13:10 2012
From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman)
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 11:13:10 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Any urwid users?
In-Reply-To: <20121116154734.3745b929@dartworks.biz> (Keith Dart's message of
	"Fri, 16 Nov 2012 15:47:34 -0800")
References: <20121107225329.216e3b0a@dartworks.biz>
	<87sj8amxga.fsf@foolinux.dyndns.org>
	<20121116154734.3745b929@dartworks.biz>
Message-ID: <878v9yvi61.fsf@foolinux.dyndns.org>


Keith> Well, there really isn't much of an alternative. Actually it's ok
Keith> once you get your brain around it. It's a bit different than
Keith> most. Actually it's a rather low-level toolkit. It mostly handles
Keith> resizable containers for you, but you still have to do a lot of
Keith> low-level widget writing to do something useful. Newest version
Keith> adds signal system, making it more like GUI programming, but for
Keith> the console.

python-newt may be worth looking at:

https://fedorahosted.org/newt

but I have no experience with it.

How complex is your app?

-- 
Ian Zimmerman
gpg public key: 1024D/C6FF61AD
fingerprint: 66DC D68F 5C1B 4D71 2EE5  BD03 8A00 786C C6FF 61AD
http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/c66875cda51109f76c6312f4d4743d1e.png
Rule 420: All persons more than eight miles high to leave the court.

From itz at buug.org  Sun Nov 18 20:16:19 2012
From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman)
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 11:16:19 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Baypiggies Hey
In-Reply-To: <CACakA7YgmD6rQhk9pmRW2zHjHFm3enAbuqe5DtGvP0+D689C+Q@mail.gmail.com>
	(David Berthelot's message of "Fri, 16 Nov 2012 12:24:00 -0800")
References: <1353062156.14296.androidMobile@web125402.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<CACakA7YgmD6rQhk9pmRW2zHjHFm3enAbuqe5DtGvP0+D689C+Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <874nkmvi0s.fsf@foolinux.dyndns.org>


David> Watch out this email is a fake / virus. I received it earlier
David> from another source.

I really hate how the fraudsters are taking advantage of people in
stressful or insecure situations, such as looking for jobs.

-- 
Ian Zimmerman
gpg public key: 1024D/C6FF61AD
fingerprint: 66DC D68F 5C1B 4D71 2EE5  BD03 8A00 786C C6FF 61AD
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Rule 420: All persons more than eight miles high to leave the court.

From msabramo at gmail.com  Mon Nov 19 02:20:08 2012
From: msabramo at gmail.com (Marc Abramowitz)
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 17:20:08 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Mongrel2-buildout
Message-ID: <9681EF2A-5C9E-483D-A903-9B36024C7E3E@gmail.com>

If you ever wanted to play with the Mongrel2 web server but were put off by the set up (like I was), you might want to try this:

https://github.com/msabramo/mongrel2-buildout

If you try it, let me know how it works for you. 

-Marc
http://marc-abramowitz.com
Sent from my iPhone 4S

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From lyle.ryan at cubic.com  Mon Nov 19 17:48:46 2012
From: lyle.ryan at cubic.com (Ryan, Lyle)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:48:46 +0000
Subject: [Baypiggies] Glen's talk on Virtualization
Message-ID: <CDFA8AD3D691BB45AFD33FB23EE8B19E01333F@bb-corp-mbx02.corp.cubic.cub>

Glen, I'm probably the newest Piggy, but your talk on Virtualization sounds great.  Can you include any areas where Python crosses-over with VMware (a large part of my job)?

Thanks...Lyle Ryan
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From henry.ward at secondsightco.com  Mon Nov 19 23:27:44 2012
From: henry.ward at secondsightco.com (Henry Ward)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:27:44 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Early Startup Jobs
Message-ID: <CAGArtE-90rUtJEk=NuE2ZtZJNZ5YkrWLPdLvfw8-+9i_Kx7ssA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I'm not sure what the rules are on posting jobs to the list but I've seen a
few come thru so I thought I would share our new job openings.  (Apologies
if I'm wrong).

We recently received our seed round to continue building a financial
platform to manage private equity.  We are developing on Python/Django and
hiring two more developers as employees #3 and #4.  It would be interesting
to anyone who likes 1) finance and 2) being part of a very early stage
VC-backed startup.

Feel free to email offline and I can tell you more.


Henry
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From bdbaddog at gmail.com  Tue Nov 20 00:04:38 2012
From: bdbaddog at gmail.com (William Deegan)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:04:38 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Early Startup Jobs
In-Reply-To: <CAGArtE-90rUtJEk=NuE2ZtZJNZ5YkrWLPdLvfw8-+9i_Kx7ssA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGArtE-90rUtJEk=NuE2ZtZJNZ5YkrWLPdLvfw8-+9i_Kx7ssA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <37713FE6-EE4E-461E-9768-A23A2869CD3C@gmail.com>

Henry,

Rules are here:
http://baypiggies.net/job-listings

You did o.k. just please list the location?

-Bill
On Nov 19, 2012, at 2:27 PM, Henry Ward <henry.ward at secondsightco.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm not sure what the rules are on posting jobs to the list but I've seen a few come thru so I thought I would share our new job openings.  (Apologies if I'm wrong).  
> 
> We recently received our seed round to continue building a financial platform to manage private equity.  We are developing on Python/Django and hiring two more developers as employees #3 and #4.  It would be interesting to anyone who likes 1) finance and 2) being part of a very early stage VC-backed startup.
> 
> Feel free to email offline and I can tell you more.
> 
> 
> Henry
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Baypiggies at python.org
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From cappy2112 at gmail.com  Tue Nov 20 00:51:56 2012
From: cappy2112 at gmail.com (Tony Cappellini)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:51:56 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Presentation preview for 2013
Message-ID: <CABRXM4ny5HGEeFyhbbz79c9cLfHYMwbDQfh63zk=+YSyjXOgYw@mail.gmail.com>

For those of you who didn't make David Schacter's presentation on
Speeding Up Python, at the SF Python Meetup last week,
http://www.meetup.com/sfpython/events/89669532/

David has graciously agreed to give a similar presentation for
Baypiggies next year, the specific month is TBD.

From dineshbvadhia at hotmail.com  Tue Nov 20 11:37:13 2012
From: dineshbvadhia at hotmail.com (Dinesh B Vadhia)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 02:37:13 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies]  Mongrel2-buildout
Message-ID: <BAY173-DS1263102329CA821395C276A3550@phx.gbl>

That is brill Marc.  Got mongrel2 working on a fresh EC2 a few days ago after three attempts and so your automated process will help next time.  Will let you know how it works out then.  Thanks again.
Dinesh
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From bryceverdier at gmail.com  Tue Nov 20 19:45:53 2012
From: bryceverdier at gmail.com (Bryce)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 10:45:53 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Presentation preview for 2013
In-Reply-To: <CABRXM4ny5HGEeFyhbbz79c9cLfHYMwbDQfh63zk=+YSyjXOgYw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABRXM4ny5HGEeFyhbbz79c9cLfHYMwbDQfh63zk=+YSyjXOgYw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <50ABCFE1.8060005@gmail.com>

On 11/19/12 15:51, Tony Cappellini wrote:
> For those of you who didn't make David Schacter's presentation on
> Speeding Up Python, at the SF Python Meetup last week,
> http://www.meetup.com/sfpython/events/89669532/
>
> David has graciously agreed to give a similar presentation for
> Baypiggies next year, the specific month is TBD.
> _______________________________________________
> Baypiggies mailing list
> Baypiggies at python.org
> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies

That is awesome news Tony!

I saw the presentation up in SF and it was one of the most entertaining 
and enlightening presentations I've seen in a long time. I look forward 
to seeing it again and picking up on what I missed the first time. :)

Bryce

From patenaude at gmail.com  Thu Nov 29 19:57:30 2012
From: patenaude at gmail.com (Mitch Patenaude)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 10:57:30 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Bug in re module?
Message-ID: <CAK3q3r4TLjg1VSknQ0NG220xfR8L66sOcK4G6i7j_EGpA_UZkQ@mail.gmail.com>

Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but I think I have a bug in the re module:
mpatenaude-mbp:tmp mpatenaude$ python2.7
Python 2.7.3 (default, Apr 13 2012, 00:05:08)
[GCC 4.2.1 (Apple Inc. build 5666) (dot 3)] on darwin
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> import re
>>> line="\tTest2.1\n"
>>> matchobj = re.match('Test2.1',line,0)
>>> matchobj

It's not matching a very simple string.

(I know that '.' is a special character, but it should match any character,
including a period itself, so I didn't bother to escape it.)

It *works* if I use findall rather than match, but I don't understand why.

  -- Mitch
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From glen at glenjarvis.com  Thu Nov 29 19:59:45 2012
From: glen at glenjarvis.com (Glen Jarvis)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 10:59:45 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Bug in re module?
In-Reply-To: <CAK3q3r4TLjg1VSknQ0NG220xfR8L66sOcK4G6i7j_EGpA_UZkQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAK3q3r4TLjg1VSknQ0NG220xfR8L66sOcK4G6i7j_EGpA_UZkQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <28AA0517-24D3-45AC-AE3B-9F050ECF21EF@glenjarvis.com>

What about the new line character in your code? Is that significant. I ask instead of state since I am not certain -- but it's the first thing this fresh pair if eyes danced to.

Cheers,


Glen

On Nov 29, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Mitch Patenaude <patenaude at gmail.com> wrote:

> Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but I think I have a bug in the re module:
> mpatenaude-mbp:tmp mpatenaude$ python2.7
> Python 2.7.3 (default, Apr 13 2012, 00:05:08) 
> [GCC 4.2.1 (Apple Inc. build 5666) (dot 3)] on darwin
> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
> >>> import re
> >>> line="\tTest2.1\n"
> >>> matchobj = re.match('Test2.1',line,0)
> >>> matchobj
> 
> It's not matching a very simple string.
> 
> (I know that '.' is a special character, but it should match any character, including a period itself, so I didn't bother to escape it.)
> 
> It *works* if I use findall rather than match, but I don't understand why.
> 
>   -- Mitch
> _______________________________________________
> Baypiggies mailing list
> Baypiggies at python.org
> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies

From shakefu at gmail.com  Thu Nov 29 20:02:34 2012
From: shakefu at gmail.com (Jake Alheid)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 11:02:34 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Bug in re module?
In-Reply-To: <CAK3q3r4TLjg1VSknQ0NG220xfR8L66sOcK4G6i7j_EGpA_UZkQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAK3q3r4TLjg1VSknQ0NG220xfR8L66sOcK4G6i7j_EGpA_UZkQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4F24D977-1745-458B-8576-3686A587347B@gmail.com>

From the docs (http://docs.python.org/2/library/re.html#re.RegexObject.match) re.match matches from the beginning of the document. You want re.search.

--
Jake Alheid
http://about.me/jake

On Nov 29, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Mitch Patenaude <patenaude at gmail.com> wrote:

> Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but I think I have a bug in the re module:
> mpatenaude-mbp:tmp mpatenaude$ python2.7
> Python 2.7.3 (default, Apr 13 2012, 00:05:08) 
> [GCC 4.2.1 (Apple Inc. build 5666) (dot 3)] on darwin
> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
> >>> import re
> >>> line="\tTest2.1\n"
> >>> matchobj = re.match('Test2.1',line,0)
> >>> matchobj
> 
> It's not matching a very simple string.
> 
> (I know that '.' is a special character, but it should match any character, including a period itself, so I didn't bother to escape it.)
> 
> It *works* if I use findall rather than match, but I don't understand why.
> 
>   -- Mitch
> _______________________________________________
> Baypiggies mailing list
> Baypiggies at python.org
> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies


From glen at glenjarvis.com  Thu Nov 29 20:08:00 2012
From: glen at glenjarvis.com (Glen Jarvis)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 11:08:00 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Bug in re module?
In-Reply-To: <28AA0517-24D3-45AC-AE3B-9F050ECF21EF@glenjarvis.com>
References: <CAK3q3r4TLjg1VSknQ0NG220xfR8L66sOcK4G6i7j_EGpA_UZkQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<28AA0517-24D3-45AC-AE3B-9F050ECF21EF@glenjarvis.com>
Message-ID: <CA+UBrj52LoR_gfyKRyuRRMOczU7KTJJWyWOAW_xMFm5qcESs6A@mail.gmail.com>

import re

line = "Test2.1"

matchobj = re.match("Test2.1", line, 0)

print matchobj


yields <_sre.SRE_Match object at 0x1041bc100>


I think Jake's advice is what you're looking for.. searching instead of
matching. Or, if you really wanted to match, make it match the string and
use groups so you can have stuff before (and possibly after).


G


On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Glen Jarvis <glen at glenjarvis.com> wrote:

> What about the new line character in your code? Is that significant. I ask
> instead of state since I am not certain -- but it's the first thing this
> fresh pair if eyes danced to.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Glen
>
> On Nov 29, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Mitch Patenaude <patenaude at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but I think I have a bug in the re module:
> > mpatenaude-mbp:tmp mpatenaude$ python2.7
> > Python 2.7.3 (default, Apr 13 2012, 00:05:08)
> > [GCC 4.2.1 (Apple Inc. build 5666) (dot 3)] on darwin
> > Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
> > >>> import re
> > >>> line="\tTest2.1\n"
> > >>> matchobj = re.match('Test2.1',line,0)
> > >>> matchobj
> >
> > It's not matching a very simple string.
> >
> > (I know that '.' is a special character, but it should match any
> character, including a period itself, so I didn't bother to escape it.)
> >
> > It *works* if I use findall rather than match, but I don't understand
> why.
> >
> >   -- Mitch
> > _______________________________________________
> > Baypiggies mailing list
> > Baypiggies at python.org
> > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies
>



-- 

"Pursue, keep up with, circle round and round your life as a dog does his
master's chase. Do what you love. Know your own bone; gnaw at it, bury it,
unearth it, and gnaw it still."

--Henry David Thoreau
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From glen at glenjarvis.com  Thu Nov 29 20:10:24 2012
From: glen at glenjarvis.com (Glen Jarvis)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 11:10:24 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Bug in re module?
In-Reply-To: <CA+UBrj52LoR_gfyKRyuRRMOczU7KTJJWyWOAW_xMFm5qcESs6A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAK3q3r4TLjg1VSknQ0NG220xfR8L66sOcK4G6i7j_EGpA_UZkQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<28AA0517-24D3-45AC-AE3B-9F050ECF21EF@glenjarvis.com>
	<CA+UBrj52LoR_gfyKRyuRRMOczU7KTJJWyWOAW_xMFm5qcESs6A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+UBrj7Qkq8K1JAwBumFb7ctSTAq-PxeJX9_LRQ07meYdNBJ3w@mail.gmail.com>

Is this more what you were thinking?

import re
line = r"Test2.1.?"
matchobj = re.match(r".*(Test2\.1).*", line, 0)
print matchobj
print matchobj.groups()

Results:
<_sre.SRE_Match object at 0x10e35ae40>
('Test2.1',)


On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Glen Jarvis <glen at glenjarvis.com> wrote:

> import re
>
> line = "Test2.1"
>
> matchobj = re.match("Test2.1", line, 0)
>
> print matchobj
>
>
> yields <_sre.SRE_Match object at 0x1041bc100>
>
>
> I think Jake's advice is what you're looking for.. searching instead of
> matching. Or, if you really wanted to match, make it match the string and
> use groups so you can have stuff before (and possibly after).
>
>
> G
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Glen Jarvis <glen at glenjarvis.com> wrote:
>
>> What about the new line character in your code? Is that significant. I
>> ask instead of state since I am not certain -- but it's the first thing
>> this fresh pair if eyes danced to.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>> Glen
>>
>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Mitch Patenaude <patenaude at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but I think I have a bug in the re module:
>> > mpatenaude-mbp:tmp mpatenaude$ python2.7
>> > Python 2.7.3 (default, Apr 13 2012, 00:05:08)
>> > [GCC 4.2.1 (Apple Inc. build 5666) (dot 3)] on darwin
>> > Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>> > >>> import re
>> > >>> line="\tTest2.1\n"
>> > >>> matchobj = re.match('Test2.1',line,0)
>> > >>> matchobj
>> >
>> > It's not matching a very simple string.
>> >
>> > (I know that '.' is a special character, but it should match any
>> character, including a period itself, so I didn't bother to escape it.)
>> >
>> > It *works* if I use findall rather than match, but I don't understand
>> why.
>> >
>> >   -- Mitch
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Baypiggies mailing list
>> > Baypiggies at python.org
>> > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
>> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> "Pursue, keep up with, circle round and round your life as a dog does his
> master's chase. Do what you love. Know your own bone; gnaw at it, bury it,
> unearth it, and gnaw it still."
>
> --Henry David Thoreau
>
>


-- 

"Pursue, keep up with, circle round and round your life as a dog does his
master's chase. Do what you love. Know your own bone; gnaw at it, bury it,
unearth it, and gnaw it still."

--Henry David Thoreau
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From aleax at google.com  Thu Nov 29 20:11:56 2012
From: aleax at google.com (Alex Martelli)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 11:11:56 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Bug in re module?
In-Reply-To: <CAK3q3r4TLjg1VSknQ0NG220xfR8L66sOcK4G6i7j_EGpA_UZkQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAK3q3r4TLjg1VSknQ0NG220xfR8L66sOcK4G6i7j_EGpA_UZkQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAE46Be9nc=rZV6WbmdGJscXkwC136P-=N+iirQyFd-gEjGO07g@mail.gmail.com>

'match' requires starting from the start of the string.  `line` starts with
a tab which is not in the pattern.  I think you want re.search (which does
not imply anchor at the beginning the way re.match does).

Alex

On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Mitch Patenaude <patenaude at gmail.com>wrote:

> Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but I think I have a bug in the re module:
> mpatenaude-mbp:tmp mpatenaude$ python2.7
> Python 2.7.3 (default, Apr 13 2012, 00:05:08)
> [GCC 4.2.1 (Apple Inc. build 5666) (dot 3)] on darwin
> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
> >>> import re
> >>> line="\tTest2.1\n"
> >>> matchobj = re.match('Test2.1',line,0)
> >>> matchobj
>
> It's not matching a very simple string.
>
> (I know that '.' is a special character, but it should match any
> character, including a period itself, so I didn't bother to escape it.)
>
> It *works* if I use findall rather than match, but I don't understand why.
>
>   -- Mitch
>
> _______________________________________________
> Baypiggies mailing list
> Baypiggies at python.org
> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe:
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies
>
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From emile at salesinq.com  Thu Nov 29 20:06:19 2012
From: emile at salesinq.com (Emile van Sebille)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 11:06:19 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Bug in re module?
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Mitch Patenaude wrote:
> Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but I think I have a bug in the re module:
> mpatenaude-mbp:tmp mpatenaude$ python2.7
> Python 2.7.3 (default, Apr 13 2012, 00:05:08) 
> [GCC 4.2.1 (Apple Inc. build 5666) (dot 3)] on darwin
> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
> >>> import re
> >>> line="\tTest2.1\n"
> >>> matchobj = re.match('Test2.1',line,0)
> >>> matchobj
>
> It's not matching a very simple string.

Looks like it's matching from the beginning though...

Python 2.5 (r25:51908, Dec 18 2009, 14:22:21)
[GCC 3.4.6 20060404 (Red Hat 3.4.6-3)] on linux2
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
 >>> import re
 >>> line="\tTest2.1\n"
 >>> matchobj = re.match('Test2.1',line,0)
 >>> print matchobj
None
 >>> line="Test2.1\n"
 >>> matchobj = re.match('Test2.1',line,0)
 >>> print matchobj
<_sre.SRE_Match object at 0xb7f69288>
 >>>


If that's a bug I'll let someone more into it declare so.

Emile


From dirk at otisbean.com  Thu Nov 29 20:10:58 2012
From: dirk at otisbean.com (Dirk Bergstrom)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 11:10:58 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Bug in re module?
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On 11/29/2012 10:57 AM, Mitch Patenaude wrote:
> Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but I think I have a bug in the re module:
> mpatenaude-mbp:tmp mpatenaude$ python2.7
> Python 2.7.3 (default, Apr 13 2012, 00:05:08)
> [GCC 4.2.1 (Apple Inc. build 5666) (dot 3)] on darwin
> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>  >>> import re
>  >>> line="\tTest2.1\n"
>  >>> matchobj = re.match('Test2.1',line,0)
>  >>> matchobj
> It's not matching a very simple string.
> It *works* if I use findall rather than match, but I don't understand why.

The docstring for re.match says:

   Try to apply the pattern at the start of the string, returning
   a match object, or None if no match was found.

You're asking if 'Test2.1' is found at the beginning of line, which it 
isn't.  The method you want is re.search:

   Scan through string looking for a match to the pattern, returning
   a match object, or None if no match was found.

In [6]: line="\tTest2.1\n"

In [7]: re.search('Test2.1',line,0)
Out[7]: <_sre.SRE_Match at 0x2417b28>

If I was Emperor of the Universe the re.match method would have been 
deprecated ages ago.

-- 
Dirk Bergstrom
dirk at otisbean.com
http://otisbean.com/

From simeonf at gmail.com  Thu Nov 29 20:36:19 2012
From: simeonf at gmail.com (Simeon Franklin)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 11:36:19 -0800
Subject: [Baypiggies] Bug in re module?
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On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Dirk Bergstrom <dirk at otisbean.com> wrote:
> If I was Emperor of the Universe the re.match method would have been
> deprecated ages ago.

I agree! Matching at the beginning of the line is what "^" is for - I
don't know why we need a functional equivalent...

-Simeon