[Baypiggies] Salary ranges

[Grace Law]

Sorry for the late entry to this thread.

IMHO, $50K is exploitation, even for an average developer, but many  
companies do that and think it is OK.   Personally, I'd love to hire  
engineers away from these companies.   The companies I have recruited  
for pay far more than that, even for an intern.   Alex is right,  
glassdoor.com offers a better view.

But salary is not the only thing.  You have to work with a company  
that treats you well.  If you are reading this thread and having a  
tough time finding a job, don't settle for a job just to have a  
job.   Rather, improve your technical skills ( work on personal side  
projects, contribute to open source, attend the many meetups now  
available)...  at the same time, improve your communications,  
interview, and puzzle solving skills... and get a darn good work  
ethics.   You WILL find something decent with better pay.   Companies  
are hunting for talents - and are willing to pay for them, at least  
mine are.

Let me know if you need help.  If I don't respond quickly, it's  
because I will be pretty busy at PyCon.  Talk to you next week.

Best,

Grace Law
Sr Technical Recruiter @ Lolapps and Sauce Labs
gracelaw at mac.com
650-823-7236 cell
http://www.linkedin.com/in/gracelaw1972



On Feb 15, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Alan Westbrook wrote:

> In 1998 entry level C++ devs were worth at least $45k in Santa Cruz
> (an area notorious for paying less than the Bay Area).
>
> So $50k seems quite low. Especially given that it's in San Francisco.
>
> Alan
>
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 9:39 AM, Glen Jarvis <glen at glenjarvis.com>  
> wrote:
>>> Let's put it this way: how many people with real (not just  
>>> titular) two
>>> or more years of experience with Django would take $50K/year  
>>> (keeping in
>>> mind that real Django experience implies Python, SQL, HTML/CSS, and
>>> JavaScript), given how competitive the current market is for those
>>> skills?  Speaking as someone who six months ago was on the  
>>> searching side
>>> and is now on the hiring side, I definitely think this range is  
>>> on the
>>> low end.  But I would be interested in hearing contrary opinions  
>>> from
>>> people with experience in hiring.
>>
>> I definitely agree the low end of this scale is too low. When I said
>> "average" I wasn't looking at the median of that range (I was  
>> looking at the
>> higher end). The median is $70K which is $10K - $15K lower than  
>> the average
>> I mentioned. Oh, and these numbers do take the current economy into
>> consideration.
>> I hadn't rechecked these stats, though, for six months..
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Glen
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