[Baypiggies] PEP-8 Style Interpretation Question
Glen Jarvis
glen at glenjarvis.com
Thu May 15 22:40:42 CEST 2008
Have you noticed that we have almost 'religious' discussions in the
Computer Science community about things some people wouldn't give a
hill of beans about? =)
I disagree with a fellow BayPIGgier on interpretation of the PEP-8
standard.
The discussion revolves around code of this nature (obviously a cooked
example where it is not necessary to place each attribute of demo on a
new line. Comments omitted purposely):
def demo(
first_attribute,
second_attribute
):
print "spam"
I believe this breaks PEP-8 coding standards (http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/
) with regard to "White Space in Expressions and Statements." The
guide states "Avoid extraneous whitespace in the following
situations...Immediately inside parentheses, brackets or braces."
However, the argument is that the '\n' character isn't a white space
character.
I feel that it is because of the following:
>>> x='\n';
>>> print x
>>> x.isspace()
True
And, according to the standard library, we see:
isspace( )
Return true if there are only whitespace characters in the string and
there is at least one character, false otherwise.
For 8-bit strings, this method is locale-dependent
I also feel that the parenthesis on a new line like this is C-like,
artificially creating program blocks when in those days, there was
nothing to enforce it. If I were writing C, I may well actually follow
the above.
I also feel that Python enforces this block with indentation, so the
artificial construct isn't necessary and is 'anti-pythonic.' The more
pythonic approach to me seems:
def demo(first_attribute,
second_attribute):
print "spam"
I could compromise to
def demo(
first_attribute,
second_attribute):
print "spam"
because this keeps the attributes clearly indented inside the def.
However, there is a 'no white space after open parenthesis rule too...
I am *NOT* looking for arguments where I'm right. I'm looking for
arguments where I'm WRONG!!! I want to be very strict ad adhering to
industry coding practices and keeping good coding habits on projects I
work on. But, if the above *IS* a good coding habit, I'd like to know
about it. I want to be argued with.
The above feels very 'anti-pythonic' to me.... But, I could be
wrong... I really like working with this individual, so if I'm wrong,
I can still feel I'm following industry standards and code their way
with them..
Please keep in mind that the other person is a bayPIGgier too and
someone I respect incredibly... So, flame me if you must... but, not
them... We all have different beliefs on things...
Thanks for all of the help...
Warmest Regards,
Glen Jarvis
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