[Baypiggies] newbie nuggets

Atul Varma varmaa at gmail.com
Mon Jun 30 23:00:56 CEST 2008


I agree with everything everyone's said so far on this, and I'm also
interested in presenting a newbie nugget myself.

- Atul

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Stephen McInerney <spmcinerney at hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
> +1
>
> Another aspect which as fallen away is that in the old days, we would
> encourage
> newbies or a person who has never spoken to present something briefly
> (whether it's a nugget, a mini-book-review or a how-to).
> I think this is very important to encourage people to step forward and not
> be shy.
>
> Stephen
>
>
> > Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:57:46 -0700
> > From: brent.tubbs at gmail.com
> > To: baypiggies at python.org
> > Subject: Re: [Baypiggies] newbie nuggets
>
> >
> > Great big +1.
> >
> > I've been doing little python programs for a couple of years, but am
> > still firmly in the "newbie" camp. For me, newbie nuggets are just
> > the thing to tip the scales in favor of making an effort to get to the
> > meetings.
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 6:10 PM, Daryl Spitzer <daryl.spitzer at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > +1
> > >
> > > I could stand to learn more about:
> > >
> > >> * Using IPython (and installing it with an egg).
> > >> * Using "try/finally" with file handles vs. using the "with"
> statement.
> > >
> > > And since the best way to learn something in depth is to teach it, I
> > > volunteer to present a "newbie nugget" (good name) on these.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Daryl
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Anna Ravenscroft <annaraven at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >> On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Shannon -jj Behrens <
> jjinux at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>> I was talking with a friend today, and he brought up the fact that we
> > >>> hadn't had a newbies night in a long time. I think that the problem
> > >>> with having a newbies night every year or so is that there are
> > >>> programmers who have to learn Python all year long. Clearly, there
> > >>> are training classes, but I think we could do more.
> > >>>
> > >>> I'd like to propose a slight addition to our normal meetings called
> > >>> "newbie nuggest". I propose that *at the beginning of each meeting*,
> > >>> we have a *10 minute* section devoted to newbies in which we cover
> one
> > >>> intermediate topic.
> > >>
> > >> Or pretty basic topics (not "this is a string" but "this is the new
> > >> string templating")
> > >>
> > >>> It doesn't make sense to cover how to write a
> > >>> "for" loop every month, but it would make sense to cover something
> > >>> like generators.
> > >>>
> > >>> The format is that one person covers one topic. Slides are optional.
> > >>> Showing some code, perhaps in the Python shell, is required. I think
> > >>> this would be a great way to give some of the less advanced Python
> > >>> programmers something to contribute to BayPiggies. Even if you don't
> > >>> know what how to write a function decorator now, you could probably
> > >>> learn it well enough to talk about it for 10 minutes before the next
> > >>> meeting.
> > >>>
> > >>> Here are some suggested topics:
> > >>>
> > >>> * Function decorators.
> > >>> * List comprehensions.
> > >>> * Generators and generator expressions.
> > >>> * Function pointers and map.
> > >>> * Using "else" with "for", "while", and "except".
> > >>> * Using StringIO.
> > >>> * Using IPython (and installing it with an egg).
> > >>> * Using "try/finally" with file handles vs. using the "with"
> statement.
> > >>> * Using lambda.
> > >>>
> > >> * Starting with pygame!
> > >> * using datetime
> > >> * using decimal
> > >> * using pytz
> > >> * file handling basics
> > >> * string formatting/templating
> > >>
> > >>> I think these could be short, sweet, and helpful for a decent
> > >>> percentage of our audience.
> > >>
> > >> +1
> > >> Great idea JJ! And I like starting the meeting with newbie-friendly
> > >> stuff - so they don't have to wait through more advanced stuff to get
> > >> to something they can understand.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> cordially,
> > >> Anna
> > >> --
> > >> Walking through the water. Trying to get across.
> > >> Just like everybody else.
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