[Baypiggies] QCon - introducing a new software developers conference

[Guido van Rossum]

Wow. Why would they bother spamming us individually if they are
targeting the entire list?!?

On 9/26/07, David Reid <dreid at dreid.org> wrote:
>
> On Sep 26, 2007, at 8:40 PM, Rick Kwan wrote:
>
> > I saw a lot of e-mail addresses of BayPIGgies members on the initial
> > message.  In fact, was that the full member list?
>
> I think it was just the non-digest list members.  I apparently sent
> the original to /dev/null but i think it was about 370 addresses.
> Mailman reports the non-digest list members as totaling 371.
>
> -David
>
> > --Rick Kwan
> >
> > On 9/26/07, Shannon -jj Behrens <jjinux at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> If this is for developers and by developers, then $1600 is the
> >> *total*
> >> cost of the conference, right?  That means we'll only have to spend
> >> about $2 each, right?
> >>
> >> Who do you guys think I am, an Oracle consultant? ;)
> >>
> >> -jj
> >>
> >> On 9/26/07, Guido van Rossum <guido at python.org> wrote:
> >>> Well said. Especially at $1600 or more (which was stated nowhere in
> >>> the email, nor on the front page of the conference website, but only
> >>> on the registration page). What's so different about this
> >>> conference?
> >>> I very much doubt that if it was really organized "by software
> >>> developers, for software developers" it would cost that much. I
> >>> don't
> >>> know any software developers who know how to spend that much
> >>> money on
> >>> swag.
> >>>
> >>> On 9/26/07, Alex Martelli <aleax at google.com> wrote:
> >>>> On 9/26/07, Liv Beswick Skov <lbs at innovationcenterdenmark.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hallo Baypiggies,
> >>>>
> >>>> You *DO* know that the "p" there stands for Python, right?
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The conference is providing a venue for learning, networking,
> >>>>> and tracking
> >>>> innovation in the Java, .NET, Ruby, SOA, and Agile communities
> >>>> also with a
> >>>>
> >>>> Explicitly listing these two languages (Java and Ruby), and just as
> >>>> explicitly leaving Python out of the list of languages, makes
> >>>> this sentence
> >>>> appear quite inimical to the Python community, by making it
> >>>> clear that the
> >>>> Python language is NOT a "first-class citizen" from your point
> >>>> of view when
> >>>> compared to Java and Ruby.  Please go spam mailing lists that
> >>>> are devoted to
> >>>> the communities you list, and stop spamming lists devoted to
> >>>> languages you
> >>>> so blatantly exclude from your purview.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Alex
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>
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