[Baypiggies] pre-registration for Baypiggies meeting
Warren Stringer
warren at muse.com
Mon Jul 9 21:54:57 CEST 2007
Could do it for next month - thereby no need for porting a list. Signup to
Meetup.com is pretty simple. Don't know how the money flows; $12/mo is
rather cheap. Pass a hat?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: baypiggies-bounces at python.org [mailto:baypiggies-bounces at python.org]
> On Behalf Of Russell Whitaker
> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 11:51 AM
> To: Leslie Hawthorn
> Cc: Python
> Subject: Re: [Baypiggies] pre-registration for Baypiggies meeting
>
> On 7/9/07, Leslie Hawthorn <lhawthorn at google.com> wrote:
> > Provided meetup.com has an easy means to export the attendee list and I
> can
> > have access to it, works for me. I have to provide a list of all
> attendees
> > to security in advance, hence listing the names on the wiki. The
> > alternative is for everyone to sign it at reception upon arrival, which
> > folks don't like since it means long wait times.
> >
>
> Note also that on meetup.com:
>
> 1.) Someone has to sign up as the meeting organizer, and pay a fee
> for the privilege;
> 2.) Attendees need to be meetup.com members.
>
> I do not think an attendee list export function exists there.
>
> Russell
>
> > Cheers,
> > LH
> >
> >
> > On 7/9/07, David Cramer <dcramer at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I agree -- using the wiki as a place to signup isn't very effective.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 7/9/07, Warren Stringer < warren at muse.com > wrote:
> > > > How about using Meetup.com as the registration vehicle? Several
> reasons:
> > > >
> > > > 1) many people on meetup.com
> > > > a) have expressed an interest in Python
> > > > b) don't know about the baypiggies
> > > >
> > > > 2) scheduling via wiki has flaws
> > > > a) in general, a wiki is not a calendar
> > > > b) the Python Wiki UI is obscure
> > > >
> > > > For example, here's retracing my steps for attending Baypiggies
> meeting,
> > via
> > > > wiki:
> > > >
> > > > Goto to: http://baypiggies.net/
> > > > Notice that there isn't a calendar
> > > > Recall that there is some mention of a wiki
> > > > Search page for wiki link
> > > > Click on wiki link
> > > > New page:
> > http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings
> > > > Notice that there isn't a calendar
> > > > Click on BayPiggies Meetings at Google
> > > > New Page:
> > http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies
> > > > Click on only link: Web site: http://baypiggies.net
> > > > Which brings you back to : http://baypiggies.net/
> > > > Grumble quietly and press the back button
> > > > Old Page:
> > http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies
> > > > Type in search term: "meeting"
> > > > New Page:
> > > >
> >
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies?action=fullsearch&context=180&value
> =m
> > > > eeting
> > > > Grumble again, hit the back button
> > > > Old page:
> > http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies
> > > > Spend a few moments figuring out where to go next
> > > > Guess and Click on Title Index
> > > > New Page:
> > http://wiki.python.org/moin/TitleIndex
> > > > Grumble at the list of everything to do with Python
> > > > Manual search for "BayPiggies"
> > > > Search brings you deeper into page
> > > > Decide whether you should click on
> > > > BayPiggies or BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings
> > > > Click on BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings
> > > > New page:
> > > > Utter epithet at no signup
> > > > Click on "BayPiggies Meetings at Google"
> > > > Old page:
> > http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies
> > > > Swear out loud
> > > > Hit the back button
> > > > In Desperation click "Directions to Google:..."
> > > > New Page:
> > http://www.google.com/corporate/address.html#directions
> > > > With a feeling of resignation go back
> > > > Old page:
> > http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings
> > > > Spend a few moments wondering what to do next
> > > > Decide to click on LOGIN
> > > > New Page:
> > http://wiki.python.org/moin/UserPreferences
> > > > Wonder why the Login Form is called "UserPreferences"
> > > > Decide that you -ahem- *prefer* to Login.
> > > > Spend some time figuring out the overloaded triple purpose
> input
> > > > form
> > > > Where some fields should be ignored depending on
> > > > which of the three things I want to do
> > > > what button to press
> > > > Type in your often used username and password
> > > > Updated page:
> > http://wiki.python.org/moin/UserPreferences
> > > > Scratch you head that nothing has changed
> > > > Try again:
> > > > Updated page:
> > http://wiki.python.org/moin/UserPreferences
> > > > Search for clues, after input form
> > > > Try again:
> > > > Oh! there is status line stuck in the *Middle*
> > > > Below the "UserPreferences" which this form isn't
> > > > Below the Search field, which this form isn't
> > > > Above the TRIPLE Purpose form
> > > > In the smallest font on the page
> > > > Begin to laugh out loud
> > > > Go through sign up process (many steps here)
> > > > Login under new user name
> > > > New page:
> > http://wiki.python.org/moin/UserPreferences
> > > > Spend some time wondering where to go next
> > > > Click on Front Page
> > > > New Page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/FrontPage
> > > > Shake head in wonderment at generic Python page
> > > > Decide whether to use search field or scan page
> > > > Click on "You Recent Pages: BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings"
> > > > Old page:
> > http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings
> > > > Shake off that feeling like you're attempting to join a
> Masonic
> > > > order
> > > > And you're at the first of 39 steps before reaching
> > > > guidodom.
> > > > Decide to just show up.
> > > > Give up
> > > >
> > > > That was last month. This month, while attempting to retrieve a
> > password, I
> > > > get the message:
> > > >
> > > > {u'': (550, '<None>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in
> local
> > > > recipient table')}
> > > >
> > > > because I attempted to get password based on username. A programmer
> > might
> > > > reply that this is a case of RTFM. A designer might reply that this
> is a
> > > > case of a turning turning a simple goal of signing up for a meeting
> into
> > > > your worst nightmare.
> > > >
> > > > May I suggest a peek at another Wiki, a good UI :
> http://barcamp.org/
> > > > But, this is beside the point. A wiki is NOT a calendar. A usable
> meetup
> > > > calendar is: www.meetup.com and, while you're at it, search on
> Python
> > > > meetups.
> > > >
> > > > Sorry for any crushed toes; even while I grumble, I appreciate the
> time
> > to
> > > > support this group.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > > \~/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: baypiggies-bounces at python.org
> > [mailto:baypiggies-bounces at python.org]
> > > > > On Behalf Of Rick Kwan
> > > > > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 8:39 AM
> > > > > To: Leslie Hawthorn
> > > > > Cc: baypiggies at python.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Baypiggies] pre-registration for Baypiggies meeting
> > > > >
> > > > > The wiki sign-up page still said June, with Colin Winter. I took
> the
> > > > > liberty of revising it quickly to say July, with the NLTK
> speakers,
> > > > > and left a pointer to the abstract.
> > > > >
> > > > > I apologize in advance; I have a little page gremlin in me that
> > > > > sometimes escapes to the keyboard... Feel free to correct his
> > > > > handiwork.
> > > > >
> > > > > --Rick Kwan
> > > > >
> > > > > On 7/9/07, Leslie Hawthorn <lhawthorn at google.com > wrote:
> > > > > > Hello everyone,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please pre-register for this Thursday's Baypiggies meeting on
> the
> > wiki
> > > > > by
> > > > > > PM on Wednesday, 7/11:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > LH
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Leslie Hawthorn
> > > > > > Program Manager - Open Source
> > > > > > Google Inc.
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