From narmok at gmail.com Mon Jul 2 18:22:27 2007 From: narmok at gmail.com (Basem Narmok) Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 09:22:27 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] July BayPIGgies meeting - Directions Message-ID: <46892643.20002@gmail.com> Hi all, I would like to attend the July meeting (July 12, 2007), but I don't know how to get to the location, I am now at Stanford university participating in LSA 2007 summer institute (see: http://linginst07.stanford.edu/) ... I know the directions from the university to Google (FROM: 374 Santa Teresa, Stanford Santa Clara, CA 94305 TO:1600 Amphitheatre Parkway, Mountain View, CA 94043) but I don't know what is the best transportation to use (no car)! any help will be appreciated. Basem Narmok From mlum at redhat.com Mon Jul 2 19:02:23 2007 From: mlum at redhat.com (Margaret Lum) Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 10:02:23 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] July BayPIGgies meeting - Directions In-Reply-To: <46892643.20002@gmail.com> References: <46892643.20002@gmail.com> Message-ID: <46892F9F.4030809@redhat.com> Basem Narmok wrote: >Hi all, > >I would like to attend the July meeting (July 12, 2007), but I don't >know how to get to the location, I am now at Stanford university >participating in LSA 2007 summer institute (see: >http://linginst07.stanford.edu/) ... I know the directions from the >university to Google (FROM: 374 Santa Teresa, Stanford Santa Clara, CA >94305 TO:1600 Amphitheatre Parkway, Mountain View, CA 94043) but I >don't know what is the best transportation to use (no car)! any help >will be appreciated. > >Basem Narmok >_______________________________________________ >Baypiggies mailing list >Baypiggies at python.org >To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > > Hi Basem, There are buses that can take you in that direction. http://www.vta.org/schedules/schedules_bymap.html There's probably a bus that goes down El Camino from Stanford (near Palm Drive), that takes you near Shoreline and El Camino. From there, you can take a route that goes down Shoreline, heading into Amphitheatre Parkway (but that's also within walking distance of Shoreline). HTH. From alecf at flett.org Wed Jul 4 08:02:02 2007 From: alecf at flett.org (Alec Flett) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 23:02:02 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] Pylons & AJAX job at Metaweb/Freebase Message-ID: Hey folks - Some of you may have heard some of the hype around Metaweb and Freebase, ( http://www.freebase.com) but I'll bet you didn't know we're a big Python shop too. We've got an application server that we built last year out of best-of-breed WSGI-oriented third party libraries... including many libraries that made their way into Pylons (formencode, paste, nose, genshi, flup, selector, and more). We love the dynamic nature of Python and have a creative, elegant architecture to work with. We've recently begun work on a new appserver based specifically on Pylons to drive www.freebase.com - but we also have a large AJAX codebase that gives Freebase it's highly interactive features. We're trying to marry the two and could use a lot of help. Our user interface is very dynamic and derived entirely in realtime based on schemas from freebase, so the work is challenging and unique. We're looking for people who are very strong with Python; Pylons experience is a huge plus. AJAX and related technologies are a must as well - you'll probably spend half your time in Python and half your time in JavaScript. Plus, we're really pushing Genshi & XPath to it's limits (who here loves py:match? we do!) Metaweb is a great group. There's a great diversity of talent from language weenies who worked on JavaScript, Netscape and Mozilla in the early days, to database gurus who learned their way around at Oracle, to folks who really earned their stripes at services companies like Yahoo and TellMe - a top-notch crew. We even have a few academics. Most of us went through the dot-com days the first time around: so we may have a Ping Pong table and a Wii but we work damn hard too because we know we've got to deliver. We're based in downtown San Francisco (Montgomery & Howard) Anyway, that's just my take. The job description is here: http://www.metaweb.com/jobs/srajaxengineer.html As the Pylons project is fairly new, we haven't updated this description to reflect the Pythonic nature of the job, but rest assured there's lots there.. Oh, and if AJAX isn't your thing, we also have http://www.metaweb.com/jobs/dataengineer.html Feel free to ask me any questions about the job or freebase. And if you'd like a freebase invitation just drop me an e-mail and I'll be happy to send an invitation your way... just mention that you saw my post on BayPiggies... Alec -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/baypiggies/attachments/20070703/b7aa9473/attachment.htm From sb at csse.unimelb.edu.au Wed Jul 4 23:32:18 2007 From: sb at csse.unimelb.edu.au (Steven Bird) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 14:32:18 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] Python and the Natural Language Toolkit Message-ID: <97e4e62e0707041432n10ac865fgef3f5d4b47ca2096@mail.gmail.com> NLTK ? the Natural Language Toolkit ? is a suite of open source Python modules, data sets and tutorials supporting research and development in natural language processing. It includes some 50k lines of Python, a 380-page book (80% complete), and 300Mb of test data. The three main developers are giving a course on NLTK at Stanford this month, and would welcome an opportunity to present NLTK to the local Python community. Please let me know if we can set something up. NLTK homepage: http://nltk.org/index.php Steven Bird http://www.csse.unimelb.edu.au/~sb/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/baypiggies/attachments/20070704/7699fa44/attachment.htm From annaraven at gmail.com Wed Jul 4 23:56:26 2007 From: annaraven at gmail.com (Anna Ravenscroft) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 14:56:26 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] Python and the Natural Language Toolkit In-Reply-To: <97e4e62e0707041432n10ac865fgef3f5d4b47ca2096@mail.gmail.com> References: <97e4e62e0707041432n10ac865fgef3f5d4b47ca2096@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I think it sounds great and I, for one, would be quite interested. Would they be available in August? We have something scheduled for July already (the python newbies night, part 2) Or are they hoping to present in June? On 7/4/07, Steven Bird wrote: > NLTK ? the Natural Language Toolkit ? is a suite of open source Python > modules, data sets and tutorials supporting research and development in > natural language processing. It includes some 50k lines of Python, a > 380-page book (80% complete), and 300Mb of test data. The three main > developers are giving a course on NLTK at Stanford this month, and would > welcome an opportunity to present NLTK to the local Python community. > Please let me know if we can set something up. > > NLTK homepage: http://nltk.org/index.php > > Steven Bird > http://www.csse.unimelb.edu.au/~sb/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Baypiggies mailing list > Baypiggies at python.org > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > -- cordially, Anna -- It is fate, but call it Italy if it pleases you, Vicar! From sb at csse.unimelb.edu.au Thu Jul 5 00:42:03 2007 From: sb at csse.unimelb.edu.au (Steven Bird) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 15:42:03 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] Python and the Natural Language Toolkit In-Reply-To: <3C220D0E-6676-4D0D-AC42-174C51044BDE@apley.com> References: <97e4e62e0707041432n10ac865fgef3f5d4b47ca2096@mail.gmail.com> <3C220D0E-6676-4D0D-AC42-174C51044BDE@apley.com> Message-ID: <97e4e62e0707041542p1b70a3f0r2569915c47389cba@mail.gmail.com> Thanks for the interest. Sadly all three of us will be gone by August (and I'm only around til 7/16). Perhaps we could do a one-off session somewhere? -Steven Bird http://www.csse.unimelb.edu.au/~sb/ On 7/4/07, Douglas Sims wrote: > > > I'm very interested also. I probably won't be able to make the > meeting next Thurs, so I vote for August also. > > +1 (Aug) > > > Douglas Sims > Doug at Apley.com > > > > On Jul 4, 2007, at 4:56 PM, Anna Ravenscroft wrote: > > > I think it sounds great and I, for one, would be quite interested. > > > > Would they be available in August? We have something scheduled for > > July already (the python newbies night, part 2) > > > > Or are they hoping to present in June? > > > > On 7/4/07, Steven Bird wrote: > >> NLTK ? the Natural Language Toolkit ? is a suite of open source > >> Python > >> modules, data sets and tutorials supporting research and > >> development in > >> natural language processing. It includes some 50k lines of Python, a > >> 380-page book (80% complete), and 300Mb of test data. The three main > >> developers are giving a course on NLTK at Stanford this month, and > >> would > >> welcome an opportunity to present NLTK to the local Python community. > >> Please let me know if we can set something up. > >> > >> NLTK homepage: http://nltk.org/index.php > >> > >> Steven Bird > >> http://www.csse.unimelb.edu.au/~sb/ > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Baypiggies mailing list > >> Baypiggies at python.org > >> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > >> > > > > > > -- > > cordially, > > Anna > > -- > > It is fate, but call it Italy if it pleases you, Vicar! > > _______________________________________________ > > Baypiggies mailing list > > Baypiggies at python.org > > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/baypiggies/attachments/20070704/bad0daa7/attachment.html From jjinux at gmail.com Thu Jul 5 00:51:16 2007 From: jjinux at gmail.com (Shannon -jj Behrens) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 15:51:16 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] Python and the Natural Language Toolkit In-Reply-To: <97e4e62e0707041432n10ac865fgef3f5d4b47ca2096@mail.gmail.com> References: <97e4e62e0707041432n10ac865fgef3f5d4b47ca2096@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: We'd love to have you give a talk :) -jj On 7/4/07, Steven Bird wrote: > NLTK ? the Natural Language Toolkit ? is a suite of open source Python > modules, data sets and tutorials supporting research and development in > natural language processing. It includes some 50k lines of Python, a > 380-page book (80% complete), and 300Mb of test data. The three main > developers are giving a course on NLTK at Stanford this month, and would > welcome an opportunity to present NLTK to the local Python community. > Please let me know if we can set something up. > > NLTK homepage: http://nltk.org/index.php > > Steven Bird > http://www.csse.unimelb.edu.au/~sb/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Baypiggies mailing list > Baypiggies at python.org > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > -- http://jjinux.blogspot.com/ From doug at apley.com Thu Jul 5 00:23:19 2007 From: doug at apley.com (Douglas Sims) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 17:23:19 -0500 Subject: [Baypiggies] Python and the Natural Language Toolkit In-Reply-To: References: <97e4e62e0707041432n10ac865fgef3f5d4b47ca2096@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3C220D0E-6676-4D0D-AC42-174C51044BDE@apley.com> I'm very interested also. I probably won't be able to make the meeting next Thurs, so I vote for August also. +1 (Aug) Douglas Sims Doug at Apley.com On Jul 4, 2007, at 4:56 PM, Anna Ravenscroft wrote: > I think it sounds great and I, for one, would be quite interested. > > Would they be available in August? We have something scheduled for > July already (the python newbies night, part 2) > > Or are they hoping to present in June? > > On 7/4/07, Steven Bird wrote: >> NLTK ? the Natural Language Toolkit ? is a suite of open source >> Python >> modules, data sets and tutorials supporting research and >> development in >> natural language processing. It includes some 50k lines of Python, a >> 380-page book (80% complete), and 300Mb of test data. The three main >> developers are giving a course on NLTK at Stanford this month, and >> would >> welcome an opportunity to present NLTK to the local Python community. >> Please let me know if we can set something up. >> >> NLTK homepage: http://nltk.org/index.php >> >> Steven Bird >> http://www.csse.unimelb.edu.au/~sb/ >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Baypiggies mailing list >> Baypiggies at python.org >> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies >> > > > -- > cordially, > Anna > -- > It is fate, but call it Italy if it pleases you, Vicar! > _______________________________________________ > Baypiggies mailing list > Baypiggies at python.org > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies From spmcinerney at hotmail.com Thu Jul 5 02:31:10 2007 From: spmcinerney at hotmail.com (Stephen McInerney) Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 17:31:10 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] Python and the Natural Language Toolkit In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ++! NLP is an interesting topic. Stephen >From: "Anna Ravenscroft" >To: "Steven Bird" >CC: baypiggies at python.org >Subject: Re: [Baypiggies] Python and the Natural Language Toolkit >Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 14:56:26 -0700 > >I think it sounds great and I, for one, would be quite interested. > >Would they be available in August? We have something scheduled for >July already (the python newbies night, part 2) > >Or are they hoping to present in June? > >On 7/4/07, Steven Bird wrote: > > NLTK ? the Natural Language Toolkit ? is a suite of open source Python > > modules, data sets and tutorials supporting research and development in > > natural language processing. It includes some 50k lines of Python, a > > 380-page book (80% complete), and 300Mb of test data. The three main > > developers are giving a course on NLTK at Stanford this month, and would > > welcome an opportunity to present NLTK to the local Python community. > > Please let me know if we can set something up. > > > > NLTK homepage: http://nltk.org/index.php > > > > Steven Bird > > http://www.csse.unimelb.edu.au/~sb/ > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Baypiggies mailing list > > Baypiggies at python.org > > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > > > > >-- >cordially, >Anna >-- >It is fate, but call it Italy if it pleases you, Vicar! >_______________________________________________ >Baypiggies mailing list >Baypiggies at python.org >To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies _________________________________________________________________ http://newlivehotmail.com From DennisR at dair.com Thu Jul 5 02:32:36 2007 From: DennisR at dair.com (Dennis Reinhardt) Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 17:32:36 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] Python and the Natural Language Toolkit In-Reply-To: <3C220D0E-6676-4D0D-AC42-174C51044BDE@apley.com> References: <97e4e62e0707041432n10ac865fgef3f5d4b47ca2096@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20070704173133.00becd18@localhost> At 03:23 PM 7/4/2007, Douglas Sims wrote: >I'm very interested also. I probably won't be able to make the >meeting next Thurs, so I vote for August also. > >+1 (Aug) I am certain I cannot make July +1 (Aug) --------------------------------- | Dennis | DennisR at dair.com | | Reinhardt | http://www.dair.com | --------------------------------- From mikeal at osafoundation.org Thu Jul 5 02:54:00 2007 From: mikeal at osafoundation.org (Mikeal Rogers) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 17:54:00 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] Python and the Natural Language Toolkit In-Reply-To: <97e4e62e0707041542p1b70a3f0r2569915c47389cba@mail.gmail.com> References: <97e4e62e0707041432n10ac865fgef3f5d4b47ca2096@mail.gmail.com> <3C220D0E-6676-4D0D-AC42-174C51044BDE@apley.com> <97e4e62e0707041542p1b70a3f0r2569915c47389cba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3006E221-0FAB-4746-A369-FA312A6E6DBA@osafoundation.org> I think people stopped looking a the whole thread while +1ing August. Since Steven and Co will be gone soon they would have to speak during this months session. Seeing as newbies part duex is currently scheduled is it possible to bump the currently scheduled session, or perhaps have a double session? -Mikeal On Jul 4, 2007, at 3:42 PM, Steven Bird wrote: > Thanks for the interest. Sadly all three of us will be gone by > August (and I'm only around til 7/16). Perhaps we could do a one- > off session somewhere? > > -Steven Bird > http://www.csse.unimelb.edu.au/~sb/ > > On 7/4/07, Douglas Sims wrote: > > I'm very interested also. I probably won't be able to make the > meeting next Thurs, so I vote for August also. > > +1 (Aug) > > > Douglas Sims > Doug at Apley.com > > > > On Jul 4, 2007, at 4:56 PM, Anna Ravenscroft wrote: > > > I think it sounds great and I, for one, would be quite interested. > > > > Would they be available in August? We have something scheduled for > > July already (the python newbies night, part 2) > > > > Or are they hoping to present in June? > > > > On 7/4/07, Steven Bird wrote: > >> NLTK ? the Natural Language Toolkit ? is a suite of open source > >> Python > >> modules, data sets and tutorials supporting research and > >> development in > >> natural language processing. It includes some 50k lines of > Python, a > >> 380-page book (80% complete), and 300Mb of test data. The three > main > >> developers are giving a course on NLTK at Stanford this month, and > >> would > >> welcome an opportunity to present NLTK to the local Python > community. > >> Please let me know if we can set something up. > >> > >> NLTK homepage: http://nltk.org/index.php > >> > >> Steven Bird > >> http://www.csse.unimelb.edu.au/~sb/ > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Baypiggies mailing list > >> Baypiggies at python.org > >> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > >> > > > > > > -- > > cordially, > > Anna > > -- > > It is fate, but call it Italy if it pleases you, Vicar! > > _______________________________________________ > > Baypiggies mailing list > > Baypiggies at python.org > > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > > > > _______________________________________________ > Baypiggies mailing list > Baypiggies at python.org > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Stephen _________________________________________________________________ http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 From annaraven at gmail.com Thu Jul 5 04:20:26 2007 From: annaraven at gmail.com (Anna Ravenscroft) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 19:20:26 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] Python and the Natural Language Toolkit In-Reply-To: References: <3006E221-0FAB-4746-A369-FA312A6E6DBA@osafoundation.org> Message-ID: Alex sez: I'm fine with being bumped to August or September, just let him know. We'll both be happy to see the Natural Language Processor guys in July. On 7/4/07, Stephen McInerney wrote: > > July (and August) are generally very sparsely attended, so doubling up > both in July would be wasteful of people's time. > > By saying ++ for NLP that was an implicit request would the newbies > presenters agree to be bumped? > If not, a separate July date for NLP is what we need. > > Stephen > > _________________________________________________________________ > http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 > > _______________________________________________ > Baypiggies mailing list > Baypiggies at python.org > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > -- cordially, Anna -- It is fate, but call it Italy if it pleases you, Vicar! From narmok at gmail.com Thu Jul 5 05:17:42 2007 From: narmok at gmail.com (Basem Narmok) Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 20:17:42 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] Python and the Natural Language Toolkit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <468C62D6.7010709@gmail.com> having a session about NLTK (Python + NLP) will be nice! BTW a small group (around 7) of the LSA 2007 at Stanford are looking forward to attend one of the BayPIGgies meetings and we only can do it during July (as we are from different palaces and we will be back home on July 28) for example I am from Jordan (Middle East) ... and I would like to meet some Python geeks before that :-) Best, Basem Stephen McInerney wrote: > July (and August) are generally very sparsely attended, so doubling up > both in July would be wasteful of people's time. > > By saying ++ for NLP that was an implicit request would the newbies > presenters agree to be bumped? > If not, a separate July date for NLP is what we need. > > Stephen > > _________________________________________________________________ > http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 > > _______________________________________________ > Baypiggies mailing list > Baypiggies at python.org > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > > From jjinux at gmail.com Thu Jul 5 08:12:36 2007 From: jjinux at gmail.com (Shannon -jj Behrens) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 23:12:36 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] Python and the Natural Language Toolkit In-Reply-To: <468C62D6.7010709@gmail.com> References: <468C62D6.7010709@gmail.com> Message-ID: Jim's in charge of speakers, but he's not around today. Hence, I'm going to tentatively take Anna's suggestion and bump Alex (although, I'm looking forward to Alex's talk too!) so that we can have the NLP talk this month. Best Regards, -jj On 7/4/07, Basem Narmok wrote: > having a session about NLTK (Python + NLP) will be nice! > > BTW a small group (around 7) of the LSA 2007 at Stanford are looking > forward to attend one of the BayPIGgies meetings and we only can do it > during July (as we are from different palaces and we will be back home > on July 28) for example I am from Jordan (Middle East) ... and I would > like to meet some Python geeks before that :-) > > Best, > Basem > > Stephen McInerney wrote: > > July (and August) are generally very sparsely attended, so doubling up > > both in July would be wasteful of people's time. > > > > By saying ++ for NLP that was an implicit request would the newbies > > presenters agree to be bumped? > > If not, a separate July date for NLP is what we need. > > > > Stephen > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Baypiggies mailing list > > Baypiggies at python.org > > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Baypiggies mailing list > Baypiggies at python.org > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > -- http://jjinux.blogspot.com/ From warren at muse.com Thu Jul 5 19:10:09 2007 From: warren at muse.com (Warren Stringer) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 10:10:09 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] Python and the Natural Language Toolkit In-Reply-To: References: <468C62D6.7010709@gmail.com> Message-ID: <00b201c7bf27$57d2a1c0$240110ac@Muse> if they're not available in sept: +1 -----Original Message----- > From: baypiggies-bounces at python.org [mailto:baypiggies-bounces at python.org] > On Behalf Of Shannon -jj Behrens > Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 11:13 PM > To: baypiggies at python.org > Subject: Re: [Baypiggies] Python and the Natural Language Toolkit > > Jim's in charge of speakers, but he's not around today. Hence, I'm > going to tentatively take Anna's suggestion and bump Alex (although, > I'm looking forward to Alex's talk too!) so that we can have the NLP > talk this month. > > Best Regards, > -jj > > On 7/4/07, Basem Narmok wrote: > > having a session about NLTK (Python + NLP) will be nice! > > > > BTW a small group (around 7) of the LSA 2007 at Stanford are looking > > forward to attend one of the BayPIGgies meetings and we only can do it > > during July (as we are from different palaces and we will be back home > > on July 28) for example I am from Jordan (Middle East) ... and I would > > like to meet some Python geeks before that :-) > > > > Best, > > Basem > > > > Stephen McInerney wrote: > > > July (and August) are generally very sparsely attended, so doubling up > > > both in July would be wasteful of people's time. > > > > > > By saying ++ for NLP that was an implicit request would the newbies > > > presenters agree to be bumped? > > > If not, a separate July date for NLP is what we need. > > > > > > Stephen > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en- > us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Baypiggies mailing list > > > Baypiggies at python.org > > > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Baypiggies mailing list > > Baypiggies at python.org > > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > > > > > -- > http://jjinux.blogspot.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Baypiggies mailing list > Baypiggies at python.org > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies From jim at well.com Thu Jul 5 20:30:05 2007 From: jim at well.com (jim stockford) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 11:30:05 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] Python and the Natural Language Toolkit In-Reply-To: <3006E221-0FAB-4746-A369-FA312A6E6DBA@osafoundation.org> References: <97e4e62e0707041432n10ac865fgef3f5d4b47ca2096@mail.gmail.com> <3C220D0E-6676-4D0D-AC42-174C51044BDE@apley.com> <97e4e62e0707041542p1b70a3f0r2569915c47389cba@mail.gmail.com> <3006E221-0FAB-4746-A369-FA312A6E6DBA@osafoundation.org> Message-ID: Bumping newbies part 2 is probably doable depending on getting the word out to the non-bayPIGgies folks who heard about it (and/or came to part 1) and also depending on Alex' willingness and ability to reschedule. I sent postings to SV-LUG, BALUG, Conspire, and SF-LUG mailing lists. I can announce a reschedule. Did any of you announce to other groups? If so, can you announce the change? NOTE: it's Thursday 7/5 and we should make announcements no later than tomorrow, Friday, 7/6. I guess we could defer till Monday, 7/9, but that seems the latest. Please respond quickly with tho'ts. My tho't is we should proceed with Newbies part 2 and sadly defer the NLTk until someone can present a talk in the (hopefully near) future. Your tho'ts? On Jul 4, 2007, at 5:54 PM, Mikeal Rogers wrote: > I think people stopped looking a the whole thread while +1ing August. > > Since Steven and Co will be gone soon they would have to speak during > this months session. > > Seeing as newbies part duex is currently scheduled is it possible to > bump the currently scheduled session, or perhaps have a double > session? > > -Mikeal > > On Jul 4, 2007, at 3:42 PM, Steven Bird wrote: > >> Thanks for the interest.? Sadly all three of us will be gone by >> August (and I'm only around til 7/16).? Perhaps we could do a one-off >> session somewhere? >> >> -Steven Bird >> http://www.csse.unimelb.edu.au/~sb/ >> >> On 7/4/07, Douglas Sims wrote: >>> I'm very interested also.??I probably won't be able to make the >>> meeting next Thurs, so I vote for August also. >>> >>> +1 (Aug) >>> >>> >>> Douglas Sims >>> Doug at Apley.com >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jul 4, 2007, at 4:56 PM, Anna Ravenscroft wrote: >>> >>> > I think it sounds great and I, for one, would be quite interested. >>> > >>> > Would they be available in August? We have something scheduled for >>> > July already (the python newbies night, part 2) >>> > >>> > Or are they hoping to present in June? >>> > >>> > On 7/4/07, Steven Bird wrote: >>> >> NLTK ? the Natural Language Toolkit ? is a suite of open source >>> >> Python >>> >> modules, data sets and tutorials supporting research and >>> >> development in >>> >> natural language processing.??It includes some 50k lines of >>> Python, a >>> >> 380-page book (80% complete), and 300Mb of test data.??The three >>> main >>> >> developers are giving a course on NLTK at Stanford this month, and >>> >> would >>> >> welcome an opportunity to present NLTK to the local Python >>> community. >>> >> Please let me know if we can set something up. >>> >> >>> >> NLTK homepage: http://nltk.org/index.php >>> >> >>> >> Steven Bird >>> >> http://www.csse.unimelb.edu.au/~sb/ >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Baypiggies mailing list >>> >> Baypiggies at python.org >>> >> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: >>> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > cordially, >>> > Anna >>> > -- >>> > It is fate, but call it Italy if it pleases you, Vicar! >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Baypiggies mailing list >>> > Baypiggies at python.org >>> > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: >>> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Baypiggies mailing list >> Baypiggies at python.org >> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > _______________________________________________ > Baypiggies mailing list > Baypiggies at python.org > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies From annaraven at gmail.com Thu Jul 5 23:16:52 2007 From: annaraven at gmail.com (Anna Ravenscroft) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 16:16:52 -0500 Subject: [Baypiggies] Python and the Natural Language Toolkit In-Reply-To: References: <97e4e62e0707041432n10ac865fgef3f5d4b47ca2096@mail.gmail.com> <3C220D0E-6676-4D0D-AC42-174C51044BDE@apley.com> <97e4e62e0707041542p1b70a3f0r2569915c47389cba@mail.gmail.com> <3006E221-0FAB-4746-A369-FA312A6E6DBA@osafoundation.org> Message-ID: Alex has already stated that he can reschedule. Alex and I both *want* to see the NLP talk. On 7/5/07, jim stockford wrote: > > Bumping newbies part 2 is probably doable depending > on getting the word out to the non-bayPIGgies folks who > heard about it (and/or came to part 1) and also depending > on Alex' willingness and ability to reschedule. > I sent postings to SV-LUG, BALUG, Conspire, and SF-LUG > mailing lists. I can announce a reschedule. Did any of you > announce to other groups? If so, can you announce the > change? > > NOTE: it's Thursday 7/5 and we should make announcements > no later than tomorrow, Friday, 7/6. I guess we could defer till > Monday, 7/9, but that seems the latest. Please respond quickly > with tho'ts. > My tho't is we should proceed with Newbies part 2 and > sadly defer the NLTk until someone can present a talk in > the (hopefully near) future. > Your tho'ts? > > > On Jul 4, 2007, at 5:54 PM, Mikeal Rogers wrote: > > > I think people stopped looking a the whole thread while +1ing August. > > > > Since Steven and Co will be gone soon they would have to speak during > > this months session. > > > > Seeing as newbies part duex is currently scheduled is it possible to > > bump the currently scheduled session, or perhaps have a double > > session? > > > > -Mikeal > > > > On Jul 4, 2007, at 3:42 PM, Steven Bird wrote: > > > >> Thanks for the interest. Sadly all three of us will be gone by > >> August (and I'm only around til 7/16). Perhaps we could do a one-off > >> session somewhere? > >> > >> -Steven Bird > >> http://www.csse.unimelb.edu.au/~sb/ > >> > >> On 7/4/07, Douglas Sims wrote: > >>> I'm very interested also.I probably won't be able to make the > >>> meeting next Thurs, so I vote for August also. > >>> > >>> +1 (Aug) > >>> > >>> > >>> Douglas Sims > >>> Doug at Apley.com > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Jul 4, 2007, at 4:56 PM, Anna Ravenscroft wrote: > >>> > >>> > I think it sounds great and I, for one, would be quite interested. > >>> > > >>> > Would they be available in August? We have something scheduled for > >>> > July already (the python newbies night, part 2) > >>> > > >>> > Or are they hoping to present in June? > >>> > > >>> > On 7/4/07, Steven Bird wrote: > >>> >> NLTK ? the Natural Language Toolkit ? is a suite of open source > >>> >> Python > >>> >> modules, data sets and tutorials supporting research and > >>> >> development in > >>> >> natural language processing.It includes some 50k lines of > >>> Python, a > >>> >> 380-page book (80% complete), and 300Mb of test data.The three > >>> main > >>> >> developers are giving a course on NLTK at Stanford this month, and > >>> >> would > >>> >> welcome an opportunity to present NLTK to the local Python > >>> community. > >>> >> Please let me know if we can set something up. > >>> >> > >>> >> NLTK homepage: http://nltk.org/index.php > >>> >> > >>> >> Steven Bird > >>> >> http://www.csse.unimelb.edu.au/~sb/ > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> _______________________________________________ > >>> >> Baypiggies mailing list > >>> >> Baypiggies at python.org > >>> >> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > >>> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > >>> >> > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > -- > >>> > cordially, > >>> > Anna > >>> > -- > >>> > It is fate, but call it Italy if it pleases you, Vicar! > >>> > _______________________________________________ > >>> > Baypiggies mailing list > >>> > Baypiggies at python.org > >>> > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > >>> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > >>> > >>> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Baypiggies mailing list > >> Baypiggies at python.org > >> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > > _______________________________________________ > > Baypiggies mailing list > > Baypiggies at python.org > > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > _______________________________________________ > Baypiggies mailing list > Baypiggies at python.org > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > -- cordially, Anna -- It is fate, but call it Italy if it pleases you, Vicar! From sb at csse.unimelb.edu.au Fri Jul 6 01:23:34 2007 From: sb at csse.unimelb.edu.au (Steven Bird) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 16:23:34 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] Python and the Natural Language Toolkit In-Reply-To: References: <97e4e62e0707041432n10ac865fgef3f5d4b47ca2096@mail.gmail.com> <3C220D0E-6676-4D0D-AC42-174C51044BDE@apley.com> <97e4e62e0707041542p1b70a3f0r2569915c47389cba@mail.gmail.com> <3006E221-0FAB-4746-A369-FA312A6E6DBA@osafoundation.org> Message-ID: <97e4e62e0707051623t5d6b6f8age6d0244cf104be7a@mail.gmail.com> We'd be happy to find another time and place (so long as its before 16 July). Also, we could run the two sessions in series or parallel perhaps. -Steven On 7/5/07, Anna Ravenscroft wrote: > > Alex has already stated that he can reschedule. Alex and I both *want* > to see the NLP talk. > > On 7/5/07, jim stockford wrote: > > > > Bumping newbies part 2 is probably doable depending > > on getting the word out to the non-bayPIGgies folks who > > heard about it (and/or came to part 1) and also depending > > on Alex' willingness and ability to reschedule. > > I sent postings to SV-LUG, BALUG, Conspire, and SF-LUG > > mailing lists. I can announce a reschedule. Did any of you > > announce to other groups? If so, can you announce the > > change? > > > > NOTE: it's Thursday 7/5 and we should make announcements > > no later than tomorrow, Friday, 7/6. I guess we could defer till > > Monday, 7/9, but that seems the latest. Please respond quickly > > with tho'ts. > > My tho't is we should proceed with Newbies part 2 and > > sadly defer the NLTk until someone can present a talk in > > the (hopefully near) future. > > Your tho'ts? > > > > > > On Jul 4, 2007, at 5:54 PM, Mikeal Rogers wrote: > > > > > I think people stopped looking a the whole thread while +1ing August. > > > > > > Since Steven and Co will be gone soon they would have to speak during > > > this months session. > > > > > > Seeing as newbies part duex is currently scheduled is it possible to > > > bump the currently scheduled session, or perhaps have a double > > > session? > > > > > > -Mikeal > > > > > > On Jul 4, 2007, at 3:42 PM, Steven Bird wrote: > > > > > >> Thanks for the interest. Sadly all three of us will be gone by > > >> August (and I'm only around til 7/16). Perhaps we could do a one-off > > >> session somewhere? > > >> > > >> -Steven Bird > > >> http://www.csse.unimelb.edu.au/~sb/ > > >> > > >> On 7/4/07, Douglas Sims wrote: > > >>> I'm very interested also.I probably won't be able to make the > > >>> meeting next Thurs, so I vote for August also. > > >>> > > >>> +1 (Aug) > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Douglas Sims > > >>> Doug at Apley.com > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> On Jul 4, 2007, at 4:56 PM, Anna Ravenscroft wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > I think it sounds great and I, for one, would be quite interested. > > >>> > > > >>> > Would they be available in August? We have something scheduled for > > >>> > July already (the python newbies night, part 2) > > >>> > > > >>> > Or are they hoping to present in June? > > >>> > > > >>> > On 7/4/07, Steven Bird wrote: > > >>> >> NLTK ? the Natural Language Toolkit ? is a suite of open source > > >>> >> Python > > >>> >> modules, data sets and tutorials supporting research and > > >>> >> development in > > >>> >> natural language processing.It includes some 50k lines of > > >>> Python, a > > >>> >> 380-page book (80% complete), and 300Mb of test data.The three > > >>> main > > >>> >> developers are giving a course on NLTK at Stanford this month, > and > > >>> >> would > > >>> >> welcome an opportunity to present NLTK to the local Python > > >>> community. > > >>> >> Please let me know if we can set something up. > > >>> >> > > >>> >> NLTK homepage: http://nltk.org/index.php > > >>> >> > > >>> >> Steven Bird > > >>> >> http://www.csse.unimelb.edu.au/~sb/ > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> _______________________________________________ > > >>> >> Baypiggies mailing list > > >>> >> Baypiggies at python.org > > >>> >> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > > >>> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > > >>> >> > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > -- > > >>> > cordially, > > >>> > Anna > > >>> > -- > > >>> > It is fate, but call it Italy if it pleases you, Vicar! > > >>> > _______________________________________________ > > >>> > Baypiggies mailing list > > >>> > Baypiggies at python.org > > >>> > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > > >>> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Baypiggies mailing list > > >> Baypiggies at python.org > > >> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Baypiggies mailing list > > > Baypiggies at python.org > > > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > > _______________________________________________ > > Baypiggies mailing list > > Baypiggies at python.org > > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > > > > > -- > cordially, > Anna > -- > It is fate, but call it Italy if it pleases you, Vicar! > _______________________________________________ > Baypiggies mailing list > Baypiggies at python.org > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/baypiggies/attachments/20070705/c9c69f60/attachment-0001.html From aleax at google.com Fri Jul 6 01:33:52 2007 From: aleax at google.com (Alex Martelli) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 16:33:52 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] Python and the Natural Language Toolkit In-Reply-To: <97e4e62e0707051623t5d6b6f8age6d0244cf104be7a@mail.gmail.com> References: <97e4e62e0707041432n10ac865fgef3f5d4b47ca2096@mail.gmail.com> <3C220D0E-6676-4D0D-AC42-174C51044BDE@apley.com> <97e4e62e0707041542p1b70a3f0r2569915c47389cba@mail.gmail.com> <3006E221-0FAB-4746-A369-FA312A6E6DBA@osafoundation.org> <97e4e62e0707051623t5d6b6f8age6d0244cf104be7a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <55dc209b0707051633k3f01f52et8a4bb75b82a1a751@mail.gmail.com> On 7/5/07, Steven Bird wrote: > > We'd be happy to find another time and place (so long as its before 16 > July). > Also, we could run the two sessions in series or parallel perhaps. "In parallel" would mean I just couldn't follow the NLTK talk -- a BIG minus for me. "In series" would make for a very long and heavy evening with two halves addressed to very separate and disjoint audiences. I vote for pushing my talk to August (or whenever the first free slot is) and having the NLTK talk next week, at the normal BayPyggies montly meeting. Alex -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/baypiggies/attachments/20070705/5a842d5e/attachment.htm From jim at well.com Fri Jul 6 16:41:02 2007 From: jim at well.com (jim stockford) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 07:41:02 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] NLTk is a go for Thursday, July 12 Message-ID: We'll have Natural Language Toolkit for our July 12 presentation. I sent Steven a request for info for the web site. I'll notify PenLUG, SV-LUG, Conspire, BALUG, SF-LUG, and the Monitoring SIG (in SF) that NLTk will be the talk and that we'll have Alex' Python for Programmers Part 2 for Newbies' Night for our August 9 event. IF YOU have previously set anyone's expectations for Newbies' Night in July, please let them know of the change. jim From donnamsnow at gmail.com Sun Jul 8 03:04:30 2007 From: donnamsnow at gmail.com (Donna Snow) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 18:04:30 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] question - Active Grid IDE Message-ID: Has anyone used the ActiveGrid IDE, and if so is it based on Java/Eclipse and what did you think of it..? Donna M. Snow From jim at well.com Sun Jul 8 05:41:59 2007 From: jim at well.com (jim stockford) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 20:41:59 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] bayPIGgies meeting July 12: Natural Language Toolkit Message-ID: <4f203d54d61e68402c14f7b87abf9524@well.com> Thursday, July 12, 2007 Location: Google Agenda----------------------------- ..... 7:30 PM ........................... General hubbub, inventory end-of-meeting announcements, any first-minute announcements. ..... 7:35 PM to 8:45 PM ................ Topic: The Natural Language Toolkit (NLTK) Steven Bird, Ewan Klein, and Edward Loper Most human knowledge--and most human communication--is representedand expressed using language. Language technologies permit computers to process human language automatically; handheld computers support predictive text and handwriting recognition; web search engines give access to information locked up in unstructured text. By providing more natural human-machine interfaces and more sophisticated access to stored information, Natural Language Processing has come to play a central role in the multilingual information society. The Natural Language Toolkit is a suite of open source Python modules, data sets, and tutorials supporting research and development in Natural Language Processing. NLTK includes some 50k lines of Python, a 380-page book (80% complete), and 300Mb of test data, all freely downloadable from http://nltk.org/index.php. In this presentation, the developers of NLTK will introduce the field of Natural Language Processing, demonstrate the main features of NLTK, and describe ways for the Pythoncommunity to participate in the ongoing development effort. About the presenters: Steven Bird is Associate Professor in Computer Science at the University of Melbourne in Australia, and Senior Research Associate in the Linguistic Data Consortium at the University of Pennsylvania, specializing in R&D on models and tools for large databases of annotated text. Steven edits the book series "Cambridge Studies in Natural Language Processing," and was recently elected president of the Association for Computational Linguistics. Ewan Klein is Professor of Language Technology in the School of Informatics at the University of Edinburgh in Scotland. He has also been Research Manager for the Natural Language Research Group of Edify Corporation, Santa Clara, and was responsible for spoken dialogue processing. Ewan was the founding Coordinator of the European Network of Excellence in Human Language Technologies. He has lead numerous academic-industrial collaborative projects, most recently in biological text mining. Edward Loper is a doctoral student at the University of Pennsylvania, conducting research on machine learning in natural languageprocessing. In addition to NLTK, Edward has helped develop othermajor packages for documenting and testing Python software, epydoc and doctest. ..... 8:45 PM to 9:00 PM ................ Mapping/Random Access Mapping is a rapid-fire audience announcement of topics the announcers are interested in. Random Access follows immediately to allow follow up individually on topics of interest. ..... The August Meeting ................ The August meeting is Newbies' Night, Part 2, presenting the second half of Alex Martelli's Python for Programmers talk. From eddymul at gmail.com Sun Jul 8 19:29:18 2007 From: eddymul at gmail.com (Eddy Mulyono) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 10:29:18 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] question - Active Grid IDE In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <67357fc10707081029t456993adr2f3c4e6d9ce9fb3f@mail.gmail.com> On 7/7/07, Donna Snow wrote: > Has anyone used the ActiveGrid IDE, I didn't use it. > and if so is it based on > Java/Eclipse After some investigation, ActiveGrid Studio seems to be written in Python. I'm pretty sure it's not an Eclipse plugin. -Eddy From shalabh at cafepy.com Sun Jul 8 22:05:55 2007 From: shalabh at cafepy.com (Shalabh Chaturvedi) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 13:05:55 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] question - Active Grid IDE In-Reply-To: <67357fc10707081029t456993adr2f3c4e6d9ce9fb3f@mail.gmail.com> References: <67357fc10707081029t456993adr2f3c4e6d9ce9fb3f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2b388010707081305j1253ac18i572f028231d67b84@mail.gmail.com> It used to be Python but they planned to switch to Eclipse based on this article: http://www.infoworld.com/article/06/08/16/HNactivegrideclipse_1.html Not sure if the switch is complete. Shalabh On 7/8/07, Eddy Mulyono wrote: > > On 7/7/07, Donna Snow wrote: > > Has anyone used the ActiveGrid IDE, > > I didn't use it. > > > and if so is it based on > > Java/Eclipse > > After some investigation, ActiveGrid Studio seems to be written in Python. > > I'm pretty sure it's not an Eclipse plugin. > > -Eddy > _______________________________________________ > Baypiggies mailing list > Baypiggies at python.org > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Russell > Not sure if the switch is complete. > > Shalabh > > > On 7/8/07, Eddy Mulyono wrote: > > On 7/7/07, Donna Snow < donnamsnow at gmail.com> wrote: > > > Has anyone used the ActiveGrid IDE, > > > > I didn't use it. > > > > > and if so is it based on > > > Java/Eclipse > > > > After some investigation, ActiveGrid Studio seems to be written in Python. > > > > I'm pretty sure it's not an Eclipse plugin. > > > > -Eddy > > _______________________________________________ > > Baypiggies mailing list > > Baypiggies at python.org > > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Baypiggies mailing list > Baypiggies at python.org > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > -- Russell Whitaker Dogfood Tools Team Google Inc., Mt View, CA From shalabh at cafepy.com Mon Jul 9 05:38:10 2007 From: shalabh at cafepy.com (Shalabh Chaturvedi) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 20:38:10 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] question - Active Grid IDE In-Reply-To: <997a56990707081318v7c32be9cg985cfb837685de41@mail.gmail.com> References: <67357fc10707081029t456993adr2f3c4e6d9ce9fb3f@mail.gmail.com> <2b388010707081305j1253ac18i572f028231d67b84@mail.gmail.com> <997a56990707081318v7c32be9cg985cfb837685de41@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2b388010707082038x6e30f1ebx108be6f6c191ca2d@mail.gmail.com> On 7/8/07, Russell Whitaker wrote: > > On 7/8/07, Shalabh Chaturvedi wrote: > > It used to be Python but they planned to switch to Eclipse based on this > > article: > > > > http://www.infoworld.com/article/06/08/16/HNactivegrideclipse_1.html > > > > ? > > Eclipse is an IDE framework, with plugins for different languages (e.g. > pydev). > I couldn't find any indication in this article that ActiveGrid is > abandoning Python. > > Russell The question is whether the ActiveGrid Studio is built on Eclipse or not. Studio is only one component of ActiveGrid, I believe they are still committed to Python on the ActiveGrid Server product. In fact they are even a PSF sponsor. The Studio used to be based on wxPython but the article states they are switching it over to Eclipse - which means it would be an Eclipse plug-in. Some more research revealed the following: http://dev.activegrid.com/community/?q=node/306 - Looks like they will release an Eclipse plug-in later this year. - Long term they are going for a web-based Studio. Cheers, Shalabh -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/baypiggies/attachments/20070708/59527809/attachment.html From donnamsnow at gmail.com Mon Jul 9 06:22:57 2007 From: donnamsnow at gmail.com (Donna Snow) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 21:22:57 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] bayPIGgies meeting July 12: Natural Language Toolkit In-Reply-To: <4f203d54d61e68402c14f7b87abf9524@well.com> References: <4f203d54d61e68402c14f7b87abf9524@well.com> Message-ID: site is updated.. Donna On 7/7/07, jim stockford wrote: > > > Thursday, July 12, 2007 > Location: Google > > > Agenda----------------------------- > > > ..... 7:30 PM ........................... > General hubbub, inventory end-of-meeting announcements, > any first-minute announcements. > > > ..... 7:35 PM to 8:45 PM ................ > Topic: The Natural Language Toolkit (NLTK) > Steven Bird, Ewan Klein, and Edward Loper > > Most human knowledge--and most human communication--is > representedand expressed using language. > Language technologies permit computers > to process human language automatically; handheld computers > support predictive text and handwriting recognition; web > search engines give access to information locked up in > unstructured text. > By providing more natural human-machine interfaces and > more sophisticated access to stored information, Natural > Language Processing has come to play a central role in the > multilingual information society. > The Natural Language Toolkit is a suite of open source > Python modules, data sets, and tutorials supporting research > and development in Natural Language Processing. NLTK > includes some 50k lines of Python, a 380-page book > (80% complete), and 300Mb of test data, all freely > downloadable from http://nltk.org/index.php. > In this presentation, the developers of NLTK will > introduce the field of Natural Language Processing, > demonstrate the main features of NLTK, and describe ways > for the Pythoncommunity to participate in the ongoing > development effort. > > About the presenters: > > Steven Bird is Associate Professor in Computer Science at the > University of Melbourne in Australia, and Senior Research Associate > in the Linguistic Data Consortium at the University of Pennsylvania, > specializing in R&D on models and tools for large databases of > annotated text. Steven edits the book series "Cambridge Studies in > Natural Language Processing," and was recently elected president of > the Association for Computational Linguistics. > > Ewan Klein is Professor of Language Technology in the School of > Informatics at the University of Edinburgh in Scotland. He has > also been Research Manager for the Natural Language Research Group > of Edify Corporation, Santa Clara, and was responsible for spoken > dialogue processing. Ewan was the founding Coordinator of the > European Network of Excellence in Human Language Technologies. > He has lead numerous academic-industrial collaborative projects, > most recently in biological text mining. > > Edward Loper is a doctoral student at the University of > Pennsylvania, conducting research on machine learning in natural > languageprocessing. In addition to NLTK, Edward has helped develop > othermajor packages for documenting and testing Python software, > epydoc and doctest. > > > ..... 8:45 PM to 9:00 PM ................ > Mapping/Random Access > > Mapping is a rapid-fire audience announcement of topics the announcers > are interested in. > > Random Access follows immediately to allow follow up individually on > topics of interest. > > > ..... The August Meeting ................ > The August meeting is Newbies' Night, Part 2, presenting the second > half of Alex Martelli's Python for Programmers talk. > > From lhawthorn at google.com Mon Jul 9 16:12:22 2007 From: lhawthorn at google.com (Leslie Hawthorn) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 07:12:22 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] pre-registration for Baypiggies meeting Message-ID: <4869cee70707090712w13f8945ey4175518b0dc6359e@mail.gmail.com> Hello everyone, Please pre-register for this Thursday's Baypiggies meeting on the wiki by 5 PM on Wednesday, 7/11: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings Cheers, LH -- Leslie Hawthorn Program Manager - Open Source Google Inc. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/baypiggies/attachments/20070709/912fd3ab/attachment.html From kenobi at gmail.com Mon Jul 9 17:38:33 2007 From: kenobi at gmail.com (Rick Kwan) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 08:38:33 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] pre-registration for Baypiggies meeting In-Reply-To: <4869cee70707090712w13f8945ey4175518b0dc6359e@mail.gmail.com> References: <4869cee70707090712w13f8945ey4175518b0dc6359e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: The wiki sign-up page still said June, with Colin Winter. I took the liberty of revising it quickly to say July, with the NLTK speakers, and left a pointer to the abstract. I apologize in advance; I have a little page gremlin in me that sometimes escapes to the keyboard... Feel free to correct his handiwork. --Rick Kwan On 7/9/07, Leslie Hawthorn wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Please pre-register for this Thursday's Baypiggies meeting on the wiki by 5 > PM on Wednesday, 7/11: > > http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings > > Cheers, > LH > > -- > Leslie Hawthorn > Program Manager - Open Source > Google Inc. > _______________________________________________ > Baypiggies mailing list > Baypiggies at python.org > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > From warren at muse.com Mon Jul 9 19:38:21 2007 From: warren at muse.com (Warren Stringer) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 10:38:21 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] pre-registration for Baypiggies meeting In-Reply-To: References: <4869cee70707090712w13f8945ey4175518b0dc6359e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00cd01c7c24f$f23cbc20$46b13f2a@Muse> How about using Meetup.com as the registration vehicle? Several reasons: 1) many people on meetup.com a) have expressed an interest in Python b) don't know about the baypiggies 2) scheduling via wiki has flaws a) in general, a wiki is not a calendar b) the Python Wiki UI is obscure For example, here's retracing my steps for attending Baypiggies meeting, via wiki: Goto to: http://baypiggies.net/ Notice that there isn't a calendar Recall that there is some mention of a wiki Search page for wiki link Click on wiki link New page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings Notice that there isn't a calendar Click on BayPiggies Meetings at Google New Page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies Click on only link: Web site: http://baypiggies.net Which brings you back to : http://baypiggies.net/ Grumble quietly and press the back button Old Page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies Type in search term: "meeting" New Page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=m eeting Grumble again, hit the back button Old page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies Spend a few moments figuring out where to go next Guess and Click on Title Index New Page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/TitleIndex Grumble at the list of everything to do with Python Manual search for "BayPiggies" Search brings you deeper into page Decide whether you should click on BayPiggies or BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings Click on BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings New page: Utter epithet at no signup Click on "BayPiggies Meetings at Google" Old page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies Swear out loud Hit the back button In Desperation click "Directions to Google:..." New Page: http://www.google.com/corporate/address.html#directions With a feeling of resignation go back Old page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings Spend a few moments wondering what to do next Decide to click on LOGIN New Page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/UserPreferences Wonder why the Login Form is called "UserPreferences" Decide that you -ahem- *prefer* to Login. Spend some time figuring out the overloaded triple purpose input form Where some fields should be ignored depending on which of the three things I want to do what button to press Type in your often used username and password Updated page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/UserPreferences Scratch you head that nothing has changed Try again: Updated page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/UserPreferences Search for clues, after input form Try again: Oh! there is status line stuck in the *Middle* Below the "UserPreferences" which this form isn't Below the Search field, which this form isn't Above the TRIPLE Purpose form In the smallest font on the page Begin to laugh out loud Go through sign up process (many steps here) Login under new user name New page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/UserPreferences Spend some time wondering where to go next Click on Front Page New Page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/FrontPage Shake head in wonderment at generic Python page Decide whether to use search field or scan page Click on "You Recent Pages: BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings" Old page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings Shake off that feeling like you're attempting to join a Masonic order And you're at the first of 39 steps before reaching guidodom. Decide to just show up. Give up That was last month. This month, while attempting to retrieve a password, I get the message: {u'': (550, ': Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table')} because I attempted to get password based on username. A programmer might reply that this is a case of RTFM. A designer might reply that this is a case of a turning turning a simple goal of signing up for a meeting into your worst nightmare. May I suggest a peek at another Wiki, a good UI : http://barcamp.org/ But, this is beside the point. A wiki is NOT a calendar. A usable meetup calendar is: www.meetup.com and, while you're at it, search on Python meetups. Sorry for any crushed toes; even while I grumble, I appreciate the time to support this group. Cheers, \~/ > -----Original Message----- > From: baypiggies-bounces at python.org [mailto:baypiggies-bounces at python.org] > On Behalf Of Rick Kwan > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 8:39 AM > To: Leslie Hawthorn > Cc: baypiggies at python.org > Subject: Re: [Baypiggies] pre-registration for Baypiggies meeting > > The wiki sign-up page still said June, with Colin Winter. I took the > liberty of revising it quickly to say July, with the NLTK speakers, > and left a pointer to the abstract. > > I apologize in advance; I have a little page gremlin in me that > sometimes escapes to the keyboard... Feel free to correct his > handiwork. > > --Rick Kwan > > On 7/9/07, Leslie Hawthorn wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > > > Please pre-register for this Thursday's Baypiggies meeting on the wiki > by > > PM on Wednesday, 7/11: > > > > http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings > > > > Cheers, > > LH > > > > -- > > Leslie Hawthorn > > Program Manager - Open Source > > Google Inc. > > _______________________________________________ > > Baypiggies mailing list > > Baypiggies at python.org > > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > > > _______________________________________________ > Baypiggies mailing list > Baypiggies at python.org > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies From dcramer at gmail.com Mon Jul 9 19:50:26 2007 From: dcramer at gmail.com (David Cramer) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 10:50:26 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] pre-registration for Baypiggies meeting In-Reply-To: <00cd01c7c24f$f23cbc20$46b13f2a@Muse> References: <4869cee70707090712w13f8945ey4175518b0dc6359e@mail.gmail.com> <00cd01c7c24f$f23cbc20$46b13f2a@Muse> Message-ID: I agree -- using the wiki as a place to signup isn't very effective. On 7/9/07, Warren Stringer wrote: > > How about using Meetup.com as the registration vehicle? Several reasons: > > 1) many people on meetup.com > a) have expressed an interest in Python > b) don't know about the baypiggies > > 2) scheduling via wiki has flaws > a) in general, a wiki is not a calendar > b) the Python Wiki UI is obscure > > For example, here's retracing my steps for attending Baypiggies meeting, > via > wiki: > > Goto to: http://baypiggies.net/ > Notice that there isn't a calendar > Recall that there is some mention of a wiki > Search page for wiki link > Click on wiki link > New page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings > Notice that there isn't a calendar > Click on BayPiggies Meetings at Google > New Page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies > Click on only link: Web site: http://baypiggies.net > Which brings you back to : http://baypiggies.net/ > Grumble quietly and press the back button > Old Page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies > Type in search term: "meeting" > New Page: > > http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=m > eeting > Grumble again, hit the back button > Old page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies > Spend a few moments figuring out where to go next > Guess and Click on Title Index > New Page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/TitleIndex > Grumble at the list of everything to do with Python > Manual search for "BayPiggies" > Search brings you deeper into page > Decide whether you should click on > BayPiggies or BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings > Click on BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings > New page: > Utter epithet at no signup > Click on "BayPiggies Meetings at Google" > Old page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies > Swear out loud > Hit the back button > In Desperation click "Directions to Google:..." > New Page: http://www.google.com/corporate/address.html#directions > With a feeling of resignation go back > Old page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings > Spend a few moments wondering what to do next > Decide to click on LOGIN > New Page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/UserPreferences > Wonder why the Login Form is called "UserPreferences" > Decide that you -ahem- *prefer* to Login. > Spend some time figuring out the overloaded triple purpose input > form > Where some fields should be ignored depending on > which of the three things I want to do > what button to press > Type in your often used username and password > Updated page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/UserPreferences > Scratch you head that nothing has changed > Try again: > Updated page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/UserPreferences > Search for clues, after input form > Try again: > Oh! there is status line stuck in the *Middle* > Below the "UserPreferences" which this form isn't > Below the Search field, which this form isn't > Above the TRIPLE Purpose form > In the smallest font on the page > Begin to laugh out loud > Go through sign up process (many steps here) > Login under new user name > New page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/UserPreferences > Spend some time wondering where to go next > Click on Front Page > New Page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/FrontPage > Shake head in wonderment at generic Python page > Decide whether to use search field or scan page > Click on "You Recent Pages: BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings" > Old page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings > Shake off that feeling like you're attempting to join a Masonic > order > And you're at the first of 39 steps before reaching > guidodom. > Decide to just show up. > Give up > > That was last month. This month, while attempting to retrieve a password, > I > get the message: > > {u'': (550, ': Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local > recipient table')} > > because I attempted to get password based on username. A programmer might > reply that this is a case of RTFM. A designer might reply that this is a > case of a turning turning a simple goal of signing up for a meeting into > your worst nightmare. > > May I suggest a peek at another Wiki, a good UI : http://barcamp.org/ > But, this is beside the point. A wiki is NOT a calendar. A usable meetup > calendar is: www.meetup.com and, while you're at it, search on Python > meetups. > > Sorry for any crushed toes; even while I grumble, I appreciate the time to > support this group. > > Cheers, > > \~/ > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: baypiggies-bounces at python.org [mailto: > baypiggies-bounces at python.org] > > On Behalf Of Rick Kwan > > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 8:39 AM > > To: Leslie Hawthorn > > Cc: baypiggies at python.org > > Subject: Re: [Baypiggies] pre-registration for Baypiggies meeting > > > > The wiki sign-up page still said June, with Colin Winter. I took the > > liberty of revising it quickly to say July, with the NLTK speakers, > > and left a pointer to the abstract. > > > > I apologize in advance; I have a little page gremlin in me that > > sometimes escapes to the keyboard... Feel free to correct his > > handiwork. > > > > --Rick Kwan > > > > On 7/9/07, Leslie Hawthorn wrote: > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > Please pre-register for this Thursday's Baypiggies meeting on the wiki > > by > > > PM on Wednesday, 7/11: > > > > > > http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings > > > > > > Cheers, > > > LH > > > > > > -- > > > Leslie Hawthorn > > > Program Manager - Open Source > > > Google Inc. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Baypiggies mailing list > > > Baypiggies at python.org > > > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Baypiggies mailing list > > Baypiggies at python.org > > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > > > _______________________________________________ > Baypiggies mailing list > Baypiggies at python.org > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > -- David Cramer Lead Developer Curse, Inc. http://www.curse.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/baypiggies/attachments/20070709/5a4e74e5/attachment-0001.html From lhawthorn at google.com Mon Jul 9 20:33:36 2007 From: lhawthorn at google.com (Leslie Hawthorn) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 11:33:36 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] pre-registration for Baypiggies meeting In-Reply-To: References: <4869cee70707090712w13f8945ey4175518b0dc6359e@mail.gmail.com> <00cd01c7c24f$f23cbc20$46b13f2a@Muse> Message-ID: <4869cee70707091133q6938c297x7189b34cf098f8d5@mail.gmail.com> Provided meetup.com has an easy means to export the attendee list and I can have access to it, works for me. I have to provide a list of all attendees to security in advance, hence listing the names on the wiki. The alternative is for everyone to sign it at reception upon arrival, which folks don't like since it means long wait times. Cheers, LH On 7/9/07, David Cramer wrote: > > I agree -- using the wiki as a place to signup isn't very effective. > > On 7/9/07, Warren Stringer wrote: > > > > How about using Meetup.com as the registration vehicle? Several reasons: > > > > > > 1) many people on meetup.com > > a) have expressed an interest in Python > > b) don't know about the baypiggies > > > > 2) scheduling via wiki has flaws > > a) in general, a wiki is not a calendar > > b) the Python Wiki UI is obscure > > > > For example, here's retracing my steps for attending Baypiggies meeting, > > via > > wiki: > > > > Goto to: http://baypiggies.net/ > > Notice that there isn't a calendar > > Recall that there is some mention of a wiki > > Search page for wiki link > > Click on wiki link > > New page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings > > Notice that there isn't a calendar > > Click on BayPiggies Meetings at Google > > New Page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies > > Click on only link: Web site: http://baypiggies.net > > Which brings you back to : http://baypiggies.net/ > > Grumble quietly and press the back button > > Old Page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies > > Type in search term: "meeting" > > New Page: > > http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=m > > > > eeting > > Grumble again, hit the back button > > Old page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies > > Spend a few moments figuring out where to go next > > Guess and Click on Title Index > > New Page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/TitleIndex > > Grumble at the list of everything to do with Python > > Manual search for "BayPiggies" > > Search brings you deeper into page > > Decide whether you should click on > > BayPiggies or BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings > > Click on BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings > > New page: > > Utter epithet at no signup > > Click on "BayPiggies Meetings at Google" > > Old page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies > > Swear out loud > > Hit the back button > > In Desperation click "Directions to Google:..." > > New Page: http://www.google.com/corporate/address.html#directions > > > > With a feeling of resignation go back > > Old page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings > > Spend a few moments wondering what to do next > > Decide to click on LOGIN > > New Page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/UserPreferences > > Wonder why the Login Form is called "UserPreferences" > > Decide that you -ahem- *prefer* to Login. > > Spend some time figuring out the overloaded triple purpose input > > form > > Where some fields should be ignored depending on > > which of the three things I want to do > > what button to press > > Type in your often used username and password > > Updated page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/UserPreferences > > Scratch you head that nothing has changed > > Try again: > > Updated page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/UserPreferences > > Search for clues, after input form > > Try again: > > Oh! there is status line stuck in the *Middle* > > Below the "UserPreferences" which this form isn't > > Below the Search field, which this form isn't > > Above the TRIPLE Purpose form > > In the smallest font on the page > > Begin to laugh out loud > > Go through sign up process (many steps here) > > Login under new user name > > New page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/UserPreferences > > Spend some time wondering where to go next > > Click on Front Page > > New Page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/FrontPage > > Shake head in wonderment at generic Python page > > Decide whether to use search field or scan page > > Click on "You Recent Pages: BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings" > > Old page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings > > Shake off that feeling like you're attempting to join a Masonic > > order > > And you're at the first of 39 steps before reaching > > guidodom. > > Decide to just show up. > > Give up > > > > That was last month. This month, while attempting to retrieve a > > password, I > > get the message: > > > > {u'': (550, ': Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local > > recipient table')} > > > > because I attempted to get password based on username. A programmer > > might > > reply that this is a case of RTFM. A designer might reply that this is a > > case of a turning turning a simple goal of signing up for a meeting into > > your worst nightmare. > > > > May I suggest a peek at another Wiki, a good UI : http://barcamp.org/ > > But, this is beside the point. A wiki is NOT a calendar. A usable meetup > > calendar is: www.meetup.com and, while you're at it, search on Python > > meetups. > > > > Sorry for any crushed toes; even while I grumble, I appreciate the time > > to > > support this group. > > > > Cheers, > > > > \~/ > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: baypiggies-bounces at python.org [mailto: > > baypiggies-bounces at python.org] > > > On Behalf Of Rick Kwan > > > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 8:39 AM > > > To: Leslie Hawthorn > > > Cc: baypiggies at python.org > > > Subject: Re: [Baypiggies] pre-registration for Baypiggies meeting > > > > > > The wiki sign-up page still said June, with Colin Winter. I took the > > > liberty of revising it quickly to say July, with the NLTK speakers, > > > and left a pointer to the abstract. > > > > > > I apologize in advance; I have a little page gremlin in me that > > > sometimes escapes to the keyboard... Feel free to correct his > > > handiwork. > > > > > > --Rick Kwan > > > > > > On 7/9/07, Leslie Hawthorn wrote: > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > > > Please pre-register for this Thursday's Baypiggies meeting on the > > wiki > > > by > > > > PM on Wednesday, 7/11: > > > > > > > > http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > LH > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Leslie Hawthorn > > > > Program Manager - Open Source > > > > Google Inc. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Baypiggies mailing list > > > > Baypiggies at python.org > > > > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Baypiggies mailing list > > > Baypiggies at python.org > > > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Baypiggies mailing list > > Baypiggies at python.org > > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > > > > > > -- > David Cramer > Lead Developer > Curse, Inc. > http://www.curse.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Baypiggies mailing list > Baypiggies at python.org > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > -- Leslie Hawthorn Program Manager - Open Source Google Inc. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/baypiggies/attachments/20070709/a0e6fa42/attachment.html From donnamsnow at gmail.com Mon Jul 9 20:50:27 2007 From: donnamsnow at gmail.com (Donna Snow) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 11:50:27 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] Plone training (as promised) Message-ID: Ok I'm scheduling my week and I've set aside Tuesday from 7pm to 8:30pm for some online training for our Plone site.. the more people we get involved..the sooner we can switch to the Plone site.. AND Plone has calendaring .. we can dramatically improve updates if we get this together .. You are not required to conference call (as there are long distance charges) but I will be on the call.. you'll be able to watch me work in the browser.. make updates to the site.. etc. If you don't conference call in.. just use the chat box and I'll try to keep you updated.. I can also hand off the controls if someone wants to ask a question and wants to show me what they mean on the Plone site.. So it's official.. tomorrow at 7pm.. be there or be square... (I have an initial limit of 10 attendees.. please rsvp so I know whether to plan for more than 10 attendees at this session) See info below.. Please join my meeting at https://www.gotomeeting.com/join/627787453 Conference Call: Dial (605) 772-3715, access code 627-787-453 Meeting ID: 627-787-453 (I have another online training session tomorrow for a current client.. but it's at noon..so no conflict) Best Regards, Donna M. Snow, Principal C Squared Enterprises illuminating your path to Open Source http://www.csquaredtech.com imagination | innovation | brilliance Business 408.385.1812 Fax 408.649.5543 From whitaker at google.com Mon Jul 9 20:50:51 2007 From: whitaker at google.com (Russell Whitaker) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 11:50:51 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] pre-registration for Baypiggies meeting In-Reply-To: <4869cee70707091133q6938c297x7189b34cf098f8d5@mail.gmail.com> References: <4869cee70707090712w13f8945ey4175518b0dc6359e@mail.gmail.com> <00cd01c7c24f$f23cbc20$46b13f2a@Muse> <4869cee70707091133q6938c297x7189b34cf098f8d5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <997a56990707091150l5d72afc6g71a50aae25be718f@mail.gmail.com> On 7/9/07, Leslie Hawthorn wrote: > Provided meetup.com has an easy means to export the attendee list and I can > have access to it, works for me. I have to provide a list of all attendees > to security in advance, hence listing the names on the wiki. The > alternative is for everyone to sign it at reception upon arrival, which > folks don't like since it means long wait times. > Note also that on meetup.com: 1.) Someone has to sign up as the meeting organizer, and pay a fee for the privilege; 2.) Attendees need to be meetup.com members. I do not think an attendee list export function exists there. Russell > Cheers, > LH > > > On 7/9/07, David Cramer wrote: > > I agree -- using the wiki as a place to signup isn't very effective. > > > > > > > > On 7/9/07, Warren Stringer < warren at muse.com > wrote: > > > How about using Meetup.com as the registration vehicle? Several reasons: > > > > > > 1) many people on meetup.com > > > a) have expressed an interest in Python > > > b) don't know about the baypiggies > > > > > > 2) scheduling via wiki has flaws > > > a) in general, a wiki is not a calendar > > > b) the Python Wiki UI is obscure > > > > > > For example, here's retracing my steps for attending Baypiggies meeting, > via > > > wiki: > > > > > > Goto to: http://baypiggies.net/ > > > Notice that there isn't a calendar > > > Recall that there is some mention of a wiki > > > Search page for wiki link > > > Click on wiki link > > > New page: > http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings > > > Notice that there isn't a calendar > > > Click on BayPiggies Meetings at Google > > > New Page: > http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies > > > Click on only link: Web site: http://baypiggies.net > > > Which brings you back to : http://baypiggies.net/ > > > Grumble quietly and press the back button > > > Old Page: > http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies > > > Type in search term: "meeting" > > > New Page: > > > > http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=m > > > eeting > > > Grumble again, hit the back button > > > Old page: > http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies > > > Spend a few moments figuring out where to go next > > > Guess and Click on Title Index > > > New Page: > http://wiki.python.org/moin/TitleIndex > > > Grumble at the list of everything to do with Python > > > Manual search for "BayPiggies" > > > Search brings you deeper into page > > > Decide whether you should click on > > > BayPiggies or BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings > > > Click on BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings > > > New page: > > > Utter epithet at no signup > > > Click on "BayPiggies Meetings at Google" > > > Old page: > http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies > > > Swear out loud > > > Hit the back button > > > In Desperation click "Directions to Google:..." > > > New Page: > http://www.google.com/corporate/address.html#directions > > > With a feeling of resignation go back > > > Old page: > http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings > > > Spend a few moments wondering what to do next > > > Decide to click on LOGIN > > > New Page: > http://wiki.python.org/moin/UserPreferences > > > Wonder why the Login Form is called "UserPreferences" > > > Decide that you -ahem- *prefer* to Login. > > > Spend some time figuring out the overloaded triple purpose input > > > form > > > Where some fields should be ignored depending on > > > which of the three things I want to do > > > what button to press > > > Type in your often used username and password > > > Updated page: > http://wiki.python.org/moin/UserPreferences > > > Scratch you head that nothing has changed > > > Try again: > > > Updated page: > http://wiki.python.org/moin/UserPreferences > > > Search for clues, after input form > > > Try again: > > > Oh! there is status line stuck in the *Middle* > > > Below the "UserPreferences" which this form isn't > > > Below the Search field, which this form isn't > > > Above the TRIPLE Purpose form > > > In the smallest font on the page > > > Begin to laugh out loud > > > Go through sign up process (many steps here) > > > Login under new user name > > > New page: > http://wiki.python.org/moin/UserPreferences > > > Spend some time wondering where to go next > > > Click on Front Page > > > New Page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/FrontPage > > > Shake head in wonderment at generic Python page > > > Decide whether to use search field or scan page > > > Click on "You Recent Pages: BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings" > > > Old page: > http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings > > > Shake off that feeling like you're attempting to join a Masonic > > > order > > > And you're at the first of 39 steps before reaching > > > guidodom. > > > Decide to just show up. > > > Give up > > > > > > That was last month. This month, while attempting to retrieve a > password, I > > > get the message: > > > > > > {u'': (550, ': Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local > > > recipient table')} > > > > > > because I attempted to get password based on username. A programmer > might > > > reply that this is a case of RTFM. A designer might reply that this is a > > > case of a turning turning a simple goal of signing up for a meeting into > > > your worst nightmare. > > > > > > May I suggest a peek at another Wiki, a good UI : http://barcamp.org/ > > > But, this is beside the point. A wiki is NOT a calendar. A usable meetup > > > calendar is: www.meetup.com and, while you're at it, search on Python > > > meetups. > > > > > > Sorry for any crushed toes; even while I grumble, I appreciate the time > to > > > support this group. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > \~/ > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: baypiggies-bounces at python.org > [mailto:baypiggies-bounces at python.org] > > > > On Behalf Of Rick Kwan > > > > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 8:39 AM > > > > To: Leslie Hawthorn > > > > Cc: baypiggies at python.org > > > > Subject: Re: [Baypiggies] pre-registration for Baypiggies meeting > > > > > > > > The wiki sign-up page still said June, with Colin Winter. I took the > > > > liberty of revising it quickly to say July, with the NLTK speakers, > > > > and left a pointer to the abstract. > > > > > > > > I apologize in advance; I have a little page gremlin in me that > > > > sometimes escapes to the keyboard... Feel free to correct his > > > > handiwork. > > > > > > > > --Rick Kwan > > > > > > > > On 7/9/07, Leslie Hawthorn wrote: > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > > > > > Please pre-register for this Thursday's Baypiggies meeting on the > wiki > > > > by > > > > > PM on Wednesday, 7/11: > > > > > > > > > > > http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > LH > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Leslie Hawthorn > > > > > Program Manager - Open Source > > > > > Google Inc. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Baypiggies mailing list > > > > > Baypiggies at python.org > > > > > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > > > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Baypiggies mailing list > > > > Baypiggies at python.org > > > > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Baypiggies mailing list > > > Baypiggies at python.org > > > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > David Cramer > > Lead Developer > > Curse, Inc. > > http://www.curse.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Baypiggies mailing list > > Baypiggies at python.org > > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > > > > > > -- > > Leslie Hawthorn > Program Manager - Open Source > Google Inc. > _______________________________________________ > Baypiggies mailing list > Baypiggies at python.org > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > -- Russell Whitaker Google Inc., Mt View, CA From warren at muse.com Mon Jul 9 21:54:57 2007 From: warren at muse.com (Warren Stringer) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 12:54:57 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] pre-registration for Baypiggies meeting In-Reply-To: <997a56990707091150l5d72afc6g71a50aae25be718f@mail.gmail.com> References: <4869cee70707090712w13f8945ey4175518b0dc6359e@mail.gmail.com><00cd01c7c24f$f23cbc20$46b13f2a@Muse><4869cee70707091133q6938c297x7189b34cf098f8d5@mail.gmail.com> <997a56990707091150l5d72afc6g71a50aae25be718f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000401c7c263$0767ea30$210110ac@Muse> Could do it for next month - thereby no need for porting a list. Signup to Meetup.com is pretty simple. Don't know how the money flows; $12/mo is rather cheap. Pass a hat? > -----Original Message----- > From: baypiggies-bounces at python.org [mailto:baypiggies-bounces at python.org] > On Behalf Of Russell Whitaker > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 11:51 AM > To: Leslie Hawthorn > Cc: Python > Subject: Re: [Baypiggies] pre-registration for Baypiggies meeting > > On 7/9/07, Leslie Hawthorn wrote: > > Provided meetup.com has an easy means to export the attendee list and I > can > > have access to it, works for me. I have to provide a list of all > attendees > > to security in advance, hence listing the names on the wiki. The > > alternative is for everyone to sign it at reception upon arrival, which > > folks don't like since it means long wait times. > > > > Note also that on meetup.com: > > 1.) Someone has to sign up as the meeting organizer, and pay a fee > for the privilege; > 2.) Attendees need to be meetup.com members. > > I do not think an attendee list export function exists there. > > Russell > > > Cheers, > > LH > > > > > > On 7/9/07, David Cramer wrote: > > > I agree -- using the wiki as a place to signup isn't very effective. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/9/07, Warren Stringer < warren at muse.com > wrote: > > > > How about using Meetup.com as the registration vehicle? Several > reasons: > > > > > > > > 1) many people on meetup.com > > > > a) have expressed an interest in Python > > > > b) don't know about the baypiggies > > > > > > > > 2) scheduling via wiki has flaws > > > > a) in general, a wiki is not a calendar > > > > b) the Python Wiki UI is obscure > > > > > > > > For example, here's retracing my steps for attending Baypiggies > meeting, > > via > > > > wiki: > > > > > > > > Goto to: http://baypiggies.net/ > > > > Notice that there isn't a calendar > > > > Recall that there is some mention of a wiki > > > > Search page for wiki link > > > > Click on wiki link > > > > New page: > > http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings > > > > Notice that there isn't a calendar > > > > Click on BayPiggies Meetings at Google > > > > New Page: > > http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies > > > > Click on only link: Web site: http://baypiggies.net > > > > Which brings you back to : http://baypiggies.net/ > > > > Grumble quietly and press the back button > > > > Old Page: > > http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies > > > > Type in search term: "meeting" > > > > New Page: > > > > > > > http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies?action=fullsearch&context=180&value > =m > > > > eeting > > > > Grumble again, hit the back button > > > > Old page: > > http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies > > > > Spend a few moments figuring out where to go next > > > > Guess and Click on Title Index > > > > New Page: > > http://wiki.python.org/moin/TitleIndex > > > > Grumble at the list of everything to do with Python > > > > Manual search for "BayPiggies" > > > > Search brings you deeper into page > > > > Decide whether you should click on > > > > BayPiggies or BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings > > > > Click on BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings > > > > New page: > > > > Utter epithet at no signup > > > > Click on "BayPiggies Meetings at Google" > > > > Old page: > > http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies > > > > Swear out loud > > > > Hit the back button > > > > In Desperation click "Directions to Google:..." > > > > New Page: > > http://www.google.com/corporate/address.html#directions > > > > With a feeling of resignation go back > > > > Old page: > > http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings > > > > Spend a few moments wondering what to do next > > > > Decide to click on LOGIN > > > > New Page: > > http://wiki.python.org/moin/UserPreferences > > > > Wonder why the Login Form is called "UserPreferences" > > > > Decide that you -ahem- *prefer* to Login. > > > > Spend some time figuring out the overloaded triple purpose > input > > > > form > > > > Where some fields should be ignored depending on > > > > which of the three things I want to do > > > > what button to press > > > > Type in your often used username and password > > > > Updated page: > > http://wiki.python.org/moin/UserPreferences > > > > Scratch you head that nothing has changed > > > > Try again: > > > > Updated page: > > http://wiki.python.org/moin/UserPreferences > > > > Search for clues, after input form > > > > Try again: > > > > Oh! there is status line stuck in the *Middle* > > > > Below the "UserPreferences" which this form isn't > > > > Below the Search field, which this form isn't > > > > Above the TRIPLE Purpose form > > > > In the smallest font on the page > > > > Begin to laugh out loud > > > > Go through sign up process (many steps here) > > > > Login under new user name > > > > New page: > > http://wiki.python.org/moin/UserPreferences > > > > Spend some time wondering where to go next > > > > Click on Front Page > > > > New Page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/FrontPage > > > > Shake head in wonderment at generic Python page > > > > Decide whether to use search field or scan page > > > > Click on "You Recent Pages: BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings" > > > > Old page: > > http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings > > > > Shake off that feeling like you're attempting to join a > Masonic > > > > order > > > > And you're at the first of 39 steps before reaching > > > > guidodom. > > > > Decide to just show up. > > > > Give up > > > > > > > > That was last month. This month, while attempting to retrieve a > > password, I > > > > get the message: > > > > > > > > {u'': (550, ': Recipient address rejected: User unknown in > local > > > > recipient table')} > > > > > > > > because I attempted to get password based on username. A programmer > > might > > > > reply that this is a case of RTFM. A designer might reply that this > is a > > > > case of a turning turning a simple goal of signing up for a meeting > into > > > > your worst nightmare. > > > > > > > > May I suggest a peek at another Wiki, a good UI : > http://barcamp.org/ > > > > But, this is beside the point. A wiki is NOT a calendar. A usable > meetup > > > > calendar is: www.meetup.com and, while you're at it, search on > Python > > > > meetups. > > > > > > > > Sorry for any crushed toes; even while I grumble, I appreciate the > time > > to > > > > support this group. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > \~/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: baypiggies-bounces at python.org > > [mailto:baypiggies-bounces at python.org] > > > > > On Behalf Of Rick Kwan > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 8:39 AM > > > > > To: Leslie Hawthorn > > > > > Cc: baypiggies at python.org > > > > > Subject: Re: [Baypiggies] pre-registration for Baypiggies meeting > > > > > > > > > > The wiki sign-up page still said June, with Colin Winter. I took > the > > > > > liberty of revising it quickly to say July, with the NLTK > speakers, > > > > > and left a pointer to the abstract. > > > > > > > > > > I apologize in advance; I have a little page gremlin in me that > > > > > sometimes escapes to the keyboard... Feel free to correct his > > > > > handiwork. > > > > > > > > > > --Rick Kwan > > > > > > > > > > On 7/9/07, Leslie Hawthorn wrote: > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > > > > > > > Please pre-register for this Thursday's Baypiggies meeting on > the > > wiki > > > > > by > > > > > > PM on Wednesday, 7/11: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > LH > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Leslie Hawthorn > > > > > > Program Manager - Open Source > > > > > > Google Inc. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Baypiggies mailing list > > > > > > Baypiggies at python.org > > > > > > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > > > > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Baypiggies mailing list > > > > > Baypiggies at python.org > > > > > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > > > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Baypiggies mailing list > > > > Baypiggies at python.org > > > > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > David Cramer > > > Lead Developer > > > Curse, Inc. > > > http://www.curse.com/ > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Baypiggies mailing list > > > Baypiggies at python.org > > > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Leslie Hawthorn > > Program Manager - Open Source > > Google Inc. > > _______________________________________________ > > Baypiggies mailing list > > Baypiggies at python.org > > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > > > > > -- > Russell Whitaker > Google Inc., Mt View, CA > _______________________________________________ > Baypiggies mailing list > Baypiggies at python.org > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies From mikeal at osafoundation.org Mon Jul 9 22:01:48 2007 From: mikeal at osafoundation.org (Mikeal Rogers) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 13:01:48 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] pre-registration for Baypiggies meeting In-Reply-To: <000401c7c263$0767ea30$210110ac@Muse> References: <4869cee70707090712w13f8945ey4175518b0dc6359e@mail.gmail.com><00cd01c7c24f$f23cbc20$46b13f2a@Muse><4869cee70707091133q6938c297x7189b34cf098f8d5@mail.gmail.com> <997a56990707091150l5d72afc6g71a50aae25be718f@mail.gmail.com> <000401c7c263$0767ea30$210110ac@Muse> Message-ID: Paying $12/mo for something we could easily write in to the existing Plone or in seperate django/Pylons app in about an hour seems like a bit much. I'm in favor of keeping everything free, and using open source stuff whenever possible. -Mikeal On Jul 9, 2007, at 12:54 PM, Warren Stringer wrote: > Could do it for next month - thereby no need for porting a list. > Signup to > Meetup.com is pretty simple. Don't know how the money flows; $12/mo is > rather cheap. Pass a hat? > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: baypiggies-bounces at python.org [mailto:baypiggies- >> bounces at python.org] >> On Behalf Of Russell Whitaker >> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 11:51 AM >> To: Leslie Hawthorn >> Cc: Python >> Subject: Re: [Baypiggies] pre-registration for Baypiggies meeting >> >> On 7/9/07, Leslie Hawthorn wrote: >>> Provided meetup.com has an easy means to export the attendee list >>> and I >> can >>> have access to it, works for me. I have to provide a list of all >> attendees >>> to security in advance, hence listing the names on the wiki. The >>> alternative is for everyone to sign it at reception upon arrival, >>> which >>> folks don't like since it means long wait times. >>> >> >> Note also that on meetup.com: >> >> 1.) Someone has to sign up as the meeting organizer, and pay a fee >> for the privilege; >> 2.) Attendees need to be meetup.com members. >> >> I do not think an attendee list export function exists there. >> >> Russell >> >>> Cheers, >>> LH >>> >>> >>> On 7/9/07, David Cramer wrote: >>>> I agree -- using the wiki as a place to signup isn't very >>>> effective. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 7/9/07, Warren Stringer < warren at muse.com > wrote: >>>>> How about using Meetup.com as the registration vehicle? Several >> reasons: >>>>> >>>>> 1) many people on meetup.com >>>>> a) have expressed an interest in Python >>>>> b) don't know about the baypiggies >>>>> >>>>> 2) scheduling via wiki has flaws >>>>> a) in general, a wiki is not a calendar >>>>> b) the Python Wiki UI is obscure >>>>> >>>>> For example, here's retracing my steps for attending Baypiggies >> meeting, >>> via >>>>> wiki: >>>>> >>>>> Goto to: http://baypiggies.net/ >>>>> Notice that there isn't a calendar >>>>> Recall that there is some mention of a wiki >>>>> Search page for wiki link >>>>> Click on wiki link >>>>> New page: >>> http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings >>>>> Notice that there isn't a calendar >>>>> Click on BayPiggies Meetings at Google >>>>> New Page: >>> http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies >>>>> Click on only link: Web site: http://baypiggies.net >>>>> Which brings you back to : http://baypiggies.net/ >>>>> Grumble quietly and press the back button >>>>> Old Page: >>> http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies >>>>> Type in search term: "meeting" >>>>> New Page: >>>>> >>> >> http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies? >> action=fullsearch&context=180&value >> =m >>>>> eeting >>>>> Grumble again, hit the back button >>>>> Old page: >>> http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies >>>>> Spend a few moments figuring out where to go next >>>>> Guess and Click on Title Index >>>>> New Page: >>> http://wiki.python.org/moin/TitleIndex >>>>> Grumble at the list of everything to do with Python >>>>> Manual search for "BayPiggies" >>>>> Search brings you deeper into page >>>>> Decide whether you should click on >>>>> BayPiggies or BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings >>>>> Click on BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings >>>>> New page: >>>>> Utter epithet at no signup >>>>> Click on "BayPiggies Meetings at Google" >>>>> Old page: >>> http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggies >>>>> Swear out loud >>>>> Hit the back button >>>>> In Desperation click "Directions to Google:..." >>>>> New Page: >>> http://www.google.com/corporate/address.html#directions >>>>> With a feeling of resignation go back >>>>> Old page: >>> http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings >>>>> Spend a few moments wondering what to do next >>>>> Decide to click on LOGIN >>>>> New Page: >>> http://wiki.python.org/moin/UserPreferences >>>>> Wonder why the Login Form is called "UserPreferences" >>>>> Decide that you -ahem- *prefer* to Login. >>>>> Spend some time figuring out the overloaded triple purpose >> input >>>>> form >>>>> Where some fields should be ignored depending on >>>>> which of the three things I want to do >>>>> what button to press >>>>> Type in your often used username and password >>>>> Updated page: >>> http://wiki.python.org/moin/UserPreferences >>>>> Scratch you head that nothing has changed >>>>> Try again: >>>>> Updated page: >>> http://wiki.python.org/moin/UserPreferences >>>>> Search for clues, after input form >>>>> Try again: >>>>> Oh! there is status line stuck in the *Middle* >>>>> Below the "UserPreferences" which this form isn't >>>>> Below the Search field, which this form isn't >>>>> Above the TRIPLE Purpose form >>>>> In the smallest font on the page >>>>> Begin to laugh out loud >>>>> Go through sign up process (many steps here) >>>>> Login under new user name >>>>> New page: >>> http://wiki.python.org/moin/UserPreferences >>>>> Spend some time wondering where to go next >>>>> Click on Front Page >>>>> New Page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/FrontPage >>>>> Shake head in wonderment at generic Python page >>>>> Decide whether to use search field or scan page >>>>> Click on "You Recent Pages: BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings" >>>>> Old page: >>> http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings >>>>> Shake off that feeling like you're attempting to join a >> Masonic >>>>> order >>>>> And you're at the first of 39 steps before >>>>> reaching >>>>> guidodom. >>>>> Decide to just show up. >>>>> Give up >>>>> >>>>> That was last month. This month, while attempting to retrieve a >>> password, I >>>>> get the message: >>>>> >>>>> {u'': (550, ': Recipient address rejected: User unknown in >> local >>>>> recipient table')} >>>>> >>>>> because I attempted to get password based on username. A >>>>> programmer >>> might >>>>> reply that this is a case of RTFM. A designer might reply that >>>>> this >> is a >>>>> case of a turning turning a simple goal of signing up for a >>>>> meeting >> into >>>>> your worst nightmare. >>>>> >>>>> May I suggest a peek at another Wiki, a good UI : >> http://barcamp.org/ >>>>> But, this is beside the point. A wiki is NOT a calendar. A usable >> meetup >>>>> calendar is: www.meetup.com and, while you're at it, search on >> Python >>>>> meetups. >>>>> >>>>> Sorry for any crushed toes; even while I grumble, I appreciate the >> time >>> to >>>>> support this group. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> \~/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: baypiggies-bounces at python.org >>> [mailto:baypiggies-bounces at python.org] >>>>>> On Behalf Of Rick Kwan >>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 8:39 AM >>>>>> To: Leslie Hawthorn >>>>>> Cc: baypiggies at python.org >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Baypiggies] pre-registration for Baypiggies meeting >>>>>> >>>>>> The wiki sign-up page still said June, with Colin Winter. I took >> the >>>>>> liberty of revising it quickly to say July, with the NLTK >> speakers, >>>>>> and left a pointer to the abstract. >>>>>> >>>>>> I apologize in advance; I have a little page gremlin in me that >>>>>> sometimes escapes to the keyboard... Feel free to correct his >>>>>> handiwork. >>>>>> >>>>>> --Rick Kwan >>>>>> >>>>>> On 7/9/07, Leslie Hawthorn wrote: >>>>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please pre-register for this Thursday's Baypiggies meeting on >> the >>> wiki >>>>>> by >>>>>>> PM on Wednesday, 7/11: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> LH >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Leslie Hawthorn >>>>>>> Program Manager - Open Source >>>>>>> Google Inc. >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Baypiggies mailing list >>>>>>> Baypiggies at python.org >>>>>>> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: >>>>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Baypiggies mailing list >>>>>> Baypiggies at python.org >>>>>> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: >>>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Baypiggies mailing list >>>>> Baypiggies at python.org >>>>> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: >>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> David Cramer >>>> Lead Developer >>>> Curse, Inc. >>>> http://www.curse.com/ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Baypiggies mailing list >>>> Baypiggies at python.org >>>> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Leslie Hawthorn >>> Program Manager - Open Source >>> Google Inc. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Baypiggies mailing list >>> Baypiggies at python.org >>> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies >>> >> >> >> -- >> Russell Whitaker >> Google Inc., Mt View, CA >> _______________________________________________ >> Baypiggies mailing list >> Baypiggies at python.org >> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > > > _______________________________________________ > Baypiggies mailing list > Baypiggies at python.org > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies From DennisR at dair.com Mon Jul 9 22:08:30 2007 From: DennisR at dair.com (Dennis Reinhardt) Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 13:08:30 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] pre-registration for Baypiggies meeting In-Reply-To: <000401c7c263$0767ea30$210110ac@Muse> References: <997a56990707091150l5d72afc6g71a50aae25be718f@mail.gmail.com> <4869cee70707090712w13f8945ey4175518b0dc6359e@mail.gmail.com> <00cd01c7c24f$f23cbc20$46b13f2a@Muse> <4869cee70707091133q6938c297x7189b34cf098f8d5@mail.gmail.com> <997a56990707091150l5d72afc6g71a50aae25be718f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20070709130300.00bf1110@localhost> At 12:54 PM 7/9/2007, Warren Stringer wrote: >Signup to >Meetup.com is pretty simple. Signup at the Google wiki is *way* simpler that the convoluted example posted. >Don't know how the money flows; $12/mo is >rather cheap. Pass a hat? I will simply pass. The wiki is just fine. I don't need another password-accessed email-collecting site to log onto. --------------------------------- | Dennis | DennisR at dair.com | | Reinhardt | http://www.dair.com | --------------------------------- From kenobi at gmail.com Mon Jul 9 22:36:02 2007 From: kenobi at gmail.com (Rick Kwan) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 13:36:02 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] pre-registration for Baypiggies meeting In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20070709130300.00bf1110@localhost> References: <4869cee70707090712w13f8945ey4175518b0dc6359e@mail.gmail.com> <00cd01c7c24f$f23cbc20$46b13f2a@Muse> <4869cee70707091133q6938c297x7189b34cf098f8d5@mail.gmail.com> <997a56990707091150l5d72afc6g71a50aae25be718f@mail.gmail.com> <000401c7c263$0767ea30$210110ac@Muse> <5.1.0.14.0.20070709130300.00bf1110@localhost> Message-ID: I do have concerns about what happens when two people are editng the wiki sign-up page at the same time. I was in there for about 30 minutes editing away. While I was there, I'm sure other people wanted to add their names; and I think four of them did. Did MoinMoin do a merge of their content and mine? --Rick Kwan On 7/9/07, Dennis Reinhardt wrote: > At 12:54 PM 7/9/2007, Warren Stringer wrote: > >Signup to > >Meetup.com is pretty simple. > > Signup at the Google wiki is *way* simpler that the convoluted example posted. > > > >Don't know how the money flows; $12/mo is > >rather cheap. Pass a hat? > > > I will simply pass. The wiki is just fine. I don't need another > password-accessed email-collecting site to log onto. > > --------------------------------- > | Dennis | DennisR at dair.com | > | Reinhardt | http://www.dair.com | > --------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Baypiggies mailing list > Baypiggies at python.org > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > From emile at fenx.com Mon Jul 9 22:23:42 2007 From: emile at fenx.com (Emile van Sebille) Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 13:23:42 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] pre-registration for Baypiggies meeting In-Reply-To: References: <4869cee70707090712w13f8945ey4175518b0dc6359e@mail.gmail.com><00cd01c7c24f$f23cbc20$46b13f2a@Muse><4869cee70707091133q6938c297x7189b34cf098f8d5@mail.gmail.com> <997a56990707091150l5d72afc6g71a50aae25be718f@mail.gmail.com> <000401c7c263$0767ea30$210110ac@Muse> Message-ID: <4692994E.4080905@fenx.com> Mikeal Rogers wrote: > Paying $12/mo for something we could easily write in to the existing > Plone or in seperate django/Pylons app in about an hour seems like a > bit much. > > I'm in favor of keeping everything free, and using open source stuff > whenever possible. > > -Mikeal +1 I've been running SignupSheet on a plone site I run for the high school since last October. The current release is at http://plone.org/products/signupsheet Emile van Sebille emile at fenx.com From warren at muse.com Mon Jul 9 23:26:22 2007 From: warren at muse.com (Warren Stringer) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 14:26:22 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] pre-registration for Baypiggies meeting In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20070709130300.00bf1110@localhost> References: <997a56990707091150l5d72afc6g71a50aae25be718f@mail.gmail.com><4869cee70707090712w13f8945ey4175518b0dc6359e@mail.gmail.com><00cd01c7c24f$f23cbc20$46b13f2a@Muse><4869cee70707091133q6938c297x7189b34cf098f8d5@mail.gmail.com><997a56990707091150l5d72afc6g71a50aae25be718f@mail.gmail.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20070709130300.00bf1110@localhost> Message-ID: <000801c7c26f$cce11550$210110ac@Muse> > Signup at the Google wiki is *way* simpler that the convoluted example > posted. So, who's mind am I supposed to reading? Google wiki? That is not what was posted. I did not put up a convoluted example for the fun of it; I was retracing my steps. The fact that there is an easier way and a harder way to reach the same goal implies that there are one too paths. The path that was posted to this list, was the one that I followed. I suspect that I am not an isolated incident. > >Don't know how the money flows; $12/mo is > >rather cheap. Pass a hat? > > I will simply pass. The wiki is just fine. I don't need another > password-accessed email-collecting site to log onto. Meetup uses cookies; looking into my record is as simple as: 1) type in "mee" in the URL field 2) the browser autocompletes the meetup.com site 3) I hit down arrow and return 4) a time sorted list of my 10 meetups appear And then to sign up 5) click on the group 6) group summary page appears 7) click on rsvp now 8) RSVP page appears 9) click on radio button yes This done in less than 30 seconds. Beat that. In addition, there is that viral element of tapping into the other programming communities who may be curious about Python. Just explore what programming groups are using Meetup, now. Unless, of course, the problem is that Baypiggies is already over attended. In which case, my apologies for making such a distracting suggestion. \~/ From spmcinerney at hotmail.com Mon Jul 9 23:48:54 2007 From: spmcinerney at hotmail.com (Stephen McInerney) Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:48:54 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] pre-registration for Baypiggies meeting In-Reply-To: <000801c7c26f$cce11550$210110ac@Muse> Message-ID: Improving the signup is a good idea, but quite a few members of the group have very strong feelings on privacy and cookie collection, so commercial sites like meetup.com are not going to fly. (People told me similar when I asked about optionally using LinkedIn, facebook, evite etc.) So a Plone replacement for the wiki sounds like the right way to go, and a good DIY project. Authentication would be good. It would be nice if the Plone allowed me to *optionally* link my identity to an arbitrary URL(s) e.g. my LinkedIn page, and remembered that as well as my location. I think that solution is the best of all worlds. (PS Quirk about the wiki: it always insists on attempting to hyperlink my last name (and several other people's too) to a non-existent wiki page. Leslie - can that annoyance be turned off?) Stephen _________________________________________________________________ http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 From lhawthorn at google.com Tue Jul 10 00:06:21 2007 From: lhawthorn at google.com (Leslie Hawthorn) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 15:06:21 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] pre-registration for Baypiggies meeting In-Reply-To: References: <000801c7c26f$cce11550$210110ac@Muse> Message-ID: <4869cee70707091506i147454fdte9c2a179b6ebf4bf@mail.gmail.com> On 7/9/07, Stephen McInerney wrote: > > > > (PS Quirk about the wiki: it always insists on attempting to hyperlink my > last name (and several other people's too) to a non-existent wiki page. > Leslie - can that annoyance be turned off?) Honestly no idea - I don't maintain that wiki, it was just a convenient place to put a sign up list. A quick look at the syntax help ( http://wiki.python.org/moin/HelpOnFormatting) doesn't reveal any information about supressing autolinking, but perhaps someone knows more about MoinMoin syntax than I do. (Assuming of course that it's a MoinMoin based wiki, which is just a guess on my part.) Cheers, LH -- Leslie Hawthorn Program Manager - Open Source Google Inc. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/baypiggies/attachments/20070709/064252b9/attachment.html From dcramer at gmail.com Tue Jul 10 00:29:52 2007 From: dcramer at gmail.com (David Cramer) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 15:29:52 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] pre-registration for Baypiggies meeting In-Reply-To: <4869cee70707091506i147454fdte9c2a179b6ebf4bf@mail.gmail.com> References: <000801c7c26f$cce11550$210110ac@Muse> <4869cee70707091506i147454fdte9c2a179b6ebf4bf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Prefix your last name with an exclamation mark (!) On 7/9/07, Leslie Hawthorn wrote: > > > > On 7/9/07, Stephen McInerney wrote: > > > > > > > > (PS Quirk about the wiki: it always insists on attempting to hyperlink > > my > > last name (and several other people's too) to a non-existent wiki page. > > Leslie - can that annoyance be turned off?) > > > Honestly no idea - I don't maintain that wiki, it was just a convenient > place to put a sign up list. A quick look at the syntax help (http://wiki.python.org/moin/HelpOnFormatting > ) doesn't reveal any information about supressing autolinking, but perhaps > someone knows more about MoinMoin syntax than I do. > > (Assuming of course that it's a MoinMoin based wiki, which is just a guess > on my part.) > > Cheers, > LH > > > -- > Leslie Hawthorn > Program Manager - Open Source > Google Inc. > > _______________________________________________ > Baypiggies mailing list > Baypiggies at python.org > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > -- David Cramer Lead Developer Curse, Inc. http://www.curse.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/baypiggies/attachments/20070709/bee8c186/attachment.htm From mrbmahoney at gmail.com Mon Jul 9 22:18:32 2007 From: mrbmahoney at gmail.com (Brian Mahoney) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 13:18:32 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] Dinner Announcement - Thursday, July 12, 6 pm Message-ID: <5538c19b0707091318h5638b2d3sd0f7095c9e5ee43c@mail.gmail.com> For Thursday, July 12, I can coordinate a pre-meeting dinner in Mountain View, before the BayPIGgies meeting at Google . Restaurant reservations may be sent to my email until Thursday afternoon (earlier is better). We eat family-style, there are vegetarian and non-vegetarian dishes. Cost around $10 per person, including tax and tip. Bring cash, please. Start dinner at 6pm and I will keep things moving so that we finish and get everyone headed towards Google to complete sign-in before the 7:30 meeting start. The restaurant is Cafe Yulong in downtown Mountain View (650) 960-1677 743 W Dana Street, 1/2 block from Castro where Books, Inc is on the corner. Parking lots all around, but downtown Mountain View parking is still difficult. It is a slightly out of the ordinary Chinese restaurant. This link has a downtown map and additional information. http://www.mountainviewca.net/restaurants/cafeyulong.html I've made reservations under "Python" for 6pm Thursday. If you wish to join us for dinner please e-mail me by 3 pm Thursday (earlier is better) so I may confirm the headcount. From jim at well.com Tue Jul 10 06:24:48 2007 From: jim at well.com (jim stockford) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 21:24:48 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] Immediate response requested (Re LinuxWorld Expo) Message-ID: Would you like bayPIGgies represented at a Linux User's Group booth at LinuxWorld Expo on August 6-9 of this year? If so, would you be willing and able to help at the booth? Anybody got any ideas about bayPIGgies promo materials? Please let me know right away. jim From jim at well.com Tue Jul 10 06:30:45 2007 From: jim at well.com (jim stockford) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 21:30:45 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] Immediate response requested (Re LinuxWorld Expo) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <58b608486b9bb875cdd544afbe68e6c2@well.com> LinuxWorld Expo will in in San Francisco at Moscone center from August 6 to August 9 this year (with thanks to S. McInerney for reminders). On Jul 9, 2007, at 9:24 PM, jim stockford wrote: > > > Would you like bayPIGgies represented at a Linux > User's Group booth at LinuxWorld Expo on August > 6-9 of this year? > If so, would you be willing and able to help at the > booth? > Anybody got any ideas about bayPIGgies promo > materials? > Please let me know right away. > jim > > _______________________________________________ > Baypiggies mailing list > Baypiggies at python.org > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > From kelly at nttmcl.com Tue Jul 10 12:28:11 2007 From: kelly at nttmcl.com (Kelly !Yancey) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:28:11 +0900 Subject: [Baypiggies] pre-registration for Baypiggies meeting In-Reply-To: References: <000801c7c26f$cce11550$210110ac@Muse> <4869cee70707091506i147454fdte9c2a179b6ebf4bf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46935F3B.5080509@nttmcl.com> David Cramer wrote: > Prefix your last name with an exclamation mark (!) > It makes everything more exciting! :) Besides, "Bang" is my middle name. -- Kelly !Yancey http://kbyanc.blogspot.com/ > On 7/9/07, *Leslie Hawthorn* > wrote: > > > > On 7/9/07, * Stephen McInerney* > wrote: > > > > (PS Quirk about the wiki: it always insists on attempting to > hyperlink my > last name (and several other people's too) to a non-existent > wiki page. > Leslie - can that annoyance be turned off?) > > > Honestly no idea - I don't maintain that wiki, it was just a > convenient place to put a sign up list. A quick look at the syntax > help ( http://wiki.python.org/moin/HelpOnFormatting > ) doesn't reveal any > information about supressing autolinking, but perhaps someone knows > more about MoinMoin syntax than I do. > > (Assuming of course that it's a MoinMoin based wiki, which is just a > guess on my part.) > > Cheers, > LH > > > -- > Leslie Hawthorn > Program Manager - Open Source > Google Inc. > > _______________________________________________ > Baypiggies mailing list > Baypiggies at python.org > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > > > > > -- > David Cramer > Lead Developer > Curse, Inc. > http://www.curse.com/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Baypiggies mailing list > Baypiggies at python.org > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies From cvanarsdall at mvista.com Tue Jul 10 17:19:43 2007 From: cvanarsdall at mvista.com (Carl J. Van Arsdall) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 08:19:43 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] Immediate response requested (Re LinuxWorld Expo) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4693A38F.3070107@mvista.com> jim stockford wrote: > Would you like bayPIGgies represented at a Linux > User's Group booth at LinuxWorld Expo on August > 6-9 of this year? > If so, would you be willing and able to help at the > booth? > Anybody got any ideas about bayPIGgies promo > materials? > Please let me know right away. > jim > > That would be pretty cool imho. Although I don't necessarily know what to put at the booth, but my first instinct would be to write up a little app that ran on an embedded, linux powered device (but i'm partial to embedded). Just throwin that out there. -carl > _______________________________________________ > Baypiggies mailing list > Baypiggies at python.org > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > -- Carl J. Van Arsdall cvanarsdall at mvista.com Build and Release MontaVista Software Vision 2007 Embedded Linux Dev Conf Oct 8-10 http://www.mvista.com/vision From jim at well.com Tue Jul 10 18:03:59 2007 From: jim at well.com (jim stockford) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 09:03:59 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] Immediate response requested (Re LinuxWorld Expo) In-Reply-To: <4693A38F.3070107@mvista.com> References: <4693A38F.3070107@mvista.com> Message-ID: <0e2be4274289ce15f966ced76ebf0139@well.com> golly, do it. I'm going for sure and will spend some hours in the booth and can demo or otherwise promote. On Jul 10, 2007, at 8:19 AM, Carl J. Van Arsdall wrote: > jim stockford wrote: >> Would you like bayPIGgies represented at a Linux >> User's Group booth at LinuxWorld Expo on August >> 6-9 of this year? >> If so, would you be willing and able to help at the >> booth? >> Anybody got any ideas about bayPIGgies promo >> materials? >> Please let me know right away. >> jim >> >> > That would be pretty cool imho. Although I don't necessarily know > what to put at the booth, but my first instinct would be to write up a > little app that ran on an embedded, linux powered device (but i'm > partial to embedded). > > Just throwin that out there. > > -carl > >> _______________________________________________ >> Baypiggies mailing list >> Baypiggies at python.org >> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies >> > > > -- > > Carl J. Van Arsdall > cvanarsdall at mvista.com > Build and Release > MontaVista Software > > Vision 2007 Embedded Linux Dev Conf Oct 8-10 > http://www.mvista.com/vision > > From donnamsnow at gmail.com Tue Jul 10 22:46:21 2007 From: donnamsnow at gmail.com (Donna Snow) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 13:46:21 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] Reminder: 7pm Online Meeting/Plone Training Message-ID: Just a quick reminder.. for those interested in attending .. meeting info below.. Please join my meeting at https://www.gotomeeting.com/join/627787453 Conference Call: Dial (605) 772-3715, access code 627-787-453 Meeting ID: 627-787-453 Donna M. Snow From donnamsnow at gmail.com Wed Jul 11 02:54:34 2007 From: donnamsnow at gmail.com (Donna Snow) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:54:34 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] meeting tonight.. (windows based) Message-ID: I'm sorry guys.. I just realized this meeting room is Windows only.. the organizations and people I train.. are usually on Windows.. It didn't even dawn on me that most of the groups is on Linux (or derivations of..).. I'll keep digging for another cross platform solution... for those who have to miss tonight because you only have Linux machines.. I'm also looking into whether I can record tonight's session in GoToMeeting.. Donna From doug at apley.com Wed Jul 11 03:05:47 2007 From: doug at apley.com (Douglas Sims) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 20:05:47 -0500 Subject: [Baypiggies] meeting tonight.. (windows based) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9FE29C7C-5DCC-40AE-8D48-A6FD58B4A2B0@apley.com> I think it might work on OS X... I'm running a Macbook Pro with OS X 10.4.10 and Firefox 2.0.0.4.. I went to the "GotoMeeting" site a few minutes ago (I'm in central time at the moment but wasn't sure if it's daylight savings or not) and it downloaded the applet. It launched just fine and is reporting "Successfully connected..." I'll try to dial in at 7 pacific/9 central (about an hour). Now I'll try it on Ubuntu also... Douglas Sims Doug at Apley.com On Jul 10, 2007, at 7:54 PM, Donna Snow wrote: > I'm sorry guys.. I just realized this meeting room is Windows only.. > the organizations and people I train.. are usually on Windows.. It > didn't even dawn on me that most of the groups is on Linux (or > derivations of..).. > > I'll keep digging for another cross platform solution... for those who > have to miss tonight because you only have Linux machines.. I'm also > looking into whether I can record tonight's session in GoToMeeting.. > > Donna > _______________________________________________ > Baypiggies mailing list > Baypiggies at python.org > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies From bsergean at gmail.com Wed Jul 11 03:06:25 2007 From: bsergean at gmail.com (Benjamin Sergeant) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 18:06:25 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] meeting tonight.. (windows based) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1621f9fa0707101806j1ea5a884m5b6e2fb709063005@mail.gmail.com> I believe there are plenty of solutions, but you can have a look at Adobe connect (http://www.adobe.com/products/connect/). It works on Linux as it's flash based. Benjamin. On 7/10/07, Donna Snow wrote: > I'm sorry guys.. I just realized this meeting room is Windows only.. > the organizations and people I train.. are usually on Windows.. It > didn't even dawn on me that most of the groups is on Linux (or > derivations of..).. > > I'll keep digging for another cross platform solution... for those who > have to miss tonight because you only have Linux machines.. I'm also > looking into whether I can record tonight's session in GoToMeeting.. > > Donna > _______________________________________________ > Baypiggies mailing list > Baypiggies at python.org > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > From tpc247 at gmail.com Wed Jul 11 03:17:49 2007 From: tpc247 at gmail.com (tpc247 at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 18:17:49 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] meeting tonight.. (windows based) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 7/10/07, Donna Snow wrote: > > I'm sorry guys.. I just realized this meeting room is Windows only.. > the organizations and people I train.. are usually on Windows.. It > didn't even dawn on me that most of the groups is on Linux (or > derivations of..).. > > I'll keep digging for another cross platform solution... for those who > have to miss tonight because you only have Linux machines.. I'm also > looking into whether I can record tonight's session in GoToMeeting.. > > Donna > _______________________________________________ Hey Donna, I just jumped on a Windows box and I went to the link you provided and got the following message in a dialogue box: """ Installation Error - GoToMeeting/GoToWebinar codec failed Registration of the GoToMeeting/GoToWebinar You will be unable to play or transcode recordings in the GoToMeeting """ Just wanted to make sure that would not be a problem. I am on IE6 on Windows 2000. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/baypiggies/attachments/20070710/3ed4af9f/attachment.html From donnamsnow at gmail.com Wed Jul 11 03:32:14 2007 From: donnamsnow at gmail.com (Donna Snow) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 18:32:14 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] meeting tonight.. (windows based) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I think you'll be ok.. I don't think you can record.. but I think I can.. we'll see when I load up the meeting room.. I'll log on there.. about 10 minutes early so people can attempt to login and deal with firewall issues if need be.. On 7/10/07, tpc247 at gmail.com wrote: > > > > On 7/10/07, Donna Snow wrote: > > > > I'm sorry guys.. I just realized this meeting room is Windows only.. > > the organizations and people I train.. are usually on Windows.. It > > didn't even dawn on me that most of the groups is on Linux (or > > derivations of..).. > > > > I'll keep digging for another cross platform solution... for those who > > have to miss tonight because you only have Linux machines.. I'm also > > looking into whether I can record tonight's session in GoToMeeting.. > > > > Donna > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Hey Donna, I just jumped on a Windows box and I went to the link you > provided and got the following message in a dialogue box: > > """ > Installation Error - GoToMeeting/GoToWebinar codec failed > > Registration of the GoToMeeting/GoToWebinar > You will be unable to play or transcode recordings in the GoToMeeting > """ > > Just wanted to make sure that would not be a problem. I am on IE6 on > Windows 2000. > > > From jim at well.com Wed Jul 11 03:39:54 2007 From: jim at well.com (jim stockford) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 18:39:54 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] meeting tonight.. (windows based) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <124a453c663eb1d777fed48d39f9f90b@well.com> i'm linux or mac, no windows boxes anywhere around. On Jul 10, 2007, at 5:54 PM, Donna Snow wrote: > I'm sorry guys.. I just realized this meeting room is Windows only.. > the organizations and people I train.. are usually on Windows.. It > didn't even dawn on me that most of the groups is on Linux (or > derivations of..).. > > I'll keep digging for another cross platform solution... for those who > have to miss tonight because you only have Linux machines.. I'm also > looking into whether I can record tonight's session in GoToMeeting.. > > Donna > _______________________________________________ > Baypiggies mailing list > Baypiggies at python.org > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > From donnamsnow at gmail.com Wed Jul 11 03:42:19 2007 From: donnamsnow at gmail.com (Donna Snow) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 18:42:19 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] meeting tonight.. (windows based) In-Reply-To: <124a453c663eb1d777fed48d39f9f90b@well.com> References: <124a453c663eb1d777fed48d39f9f90b@well.com> Message-ID: We will do this again.. with a meeting/training app that's cross platform... I know GoToMeeting so I would rather not change now.. as I'll have to try and figure stuff out while showing you how to update the new site.. Let's definitely plan another meeting for anyone who can't make tonight.. I may be at the meeting on Thursday.. we can talk about it then... Donna On 7/10/07, jim stockford wrote: > > i'm linux or mac, no windows boxes anywhere around. > > On Jul 10, 2007, at 5:54 PM, Donna Snow wrote: > > > I'm sorry guys.. I just realized this meeting room is Windows only.. > > the organizations and people I train.. are usually on Windows.. It > > didn't even dawn on me that most of the groups is on Linux (or > > derivations of..).. > > > > I'll keep digging for another cross platform solution... for those who > > have to miss tonight because you only have Linux machines.. I'm also > > looking into whether I can record tonight's session in GoToMeeting.. > > > > Donna > > _______________________________________________ > > Baypiggies mailing list > > Baypiggies at python.org > > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > > > > From keith at dartworks.biz Wed Jul 11 04:55:34 2007 From: keith at dartworks.biz (Keith Dart =?UTF-8?B?4pmC?=) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:55:34 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] meeting tonight.. (windows based) In-Reply-To: References: <124a453c663eb1d777fed48d39f9f90b@well.com> Message-ID: <20070710195534.71bcccd6@psyche.corp.google.com> Donna Snow wrote the following on 2007-07-10 at 18:42 PDT: === > Let's definitely plan another meeting for anyone who can't make tonight.. === Thanks! (Linux here also...) -- -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Keith Dart public key: ID: 19017044 ===================================================================== From doug at apley.com Wed Jul 11 05:21:17 2007 From: doug at apley.com (Douglas Sims) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:21:17 -0500 Subject: [Baypiggies] meeting tonight.. (windows based) In-Reply-To: References: <124a453c663eb1d777fed48d39f9f90b@well.com> Message-ID: <86969B20-D272-4096-A741-C2114CE3390C@apley.com> Thanks, Donna. That was a good session. The new site looks quite nice. I'm looking forward to playing with it some. Douglas Sims Doug at Apley.com On Jul 10, 2007, at 8:42 PM, Donna Snow wrote: > We will do this again.. with a meeting/training app that's cross > platform... I know GoToMeeting so I would rather not change now.. as > I'll have to try and figure stuff out while showing you how to update > the new site.. > > Let's definitely plan another meeting for anyone who can't make > tonight.. > > I may be at the meeting on Thursday.. we can talk about it then... > > Donna > > On 7/10/07, jim stockford wrote: >> >> i'm linux or mac, no windows boxes anywhere around. >> >> On Jul 10, 2007, at 5:54 PM, Donna Snow wrote: >> >>> I'm sorry guys.. I just realized this meeting room is Windows only.. >>> the organizations and people I train.. are usually on Windows.. It >>> didn't even dawn on me that most of the groups is on Linux (or >>> derivations of..).. >>> >>> I'll keep digging for another cross platform solution... for >>> those who >>> have to miss tonight because you only have Linux machines.. I'm also >>> looking into whether I can record tonight's session in GoToMeeting.. >>> >>> Donna >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Baypiggies mailing list >>> Baypiggies at python.org >>> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies >>> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Baypiggies mailing list > Baypiggies at python.org > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies From donnamsnow at gmail.com Wed Jul 11 06:36:08 2007 From: donnamsnow at gmail.com (Donna Snow) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 21:36:08 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] meeting tonight.. (windows based) In-Reply-To: <86969B20-D272-4096-A741-C2114CE3390C@apley.com> References: <124a453c663eb1d777fed48d39f9f90b@well.com> <86969B20-D272-4096-A741-C2114CE3390C@apley.com> Message-ID: Let's make it July 24th for our next session.. and I'll make sure Linux users can access.. as I mentioned during the session.. there is a lot of potential for making baypiggies.net/new/plone a hub of bay area python enthusiasts.. For those who attended.. please.. get to know the system.. (and ping me if you have questions) .. (remember.. undo is your friend :-)) Donna On 7/10/07, Douglas Sims wrote: > Thanks, Donna. That was a good session. The new site looks quite > nice. I'm looking forward to playing with it some. > > Douglas Sims > Doug at Apley.com > > > > On Jul 10, 2007, at 8:42 PM, Donna Snow wrote: > > > We will do this again.. with a meeting/training app that's cross > > platform... I know GoToMeeting so I would rather not change now.. as > > I'll have to try and figure stuff out while showing you how to update > > the new site.. > > > > Let's definitely plan another meeting for anyone who can't make > > tonight.. > > > > I may be at the meeting on Thursday.. we can talk about it then... > > > > Donna > > > > On 7/10/07, jim stockford wrote: > >> > >> i'm linux or mac, no windows boxes anywhere around. > >> > >> On Jul 10, 2007, at 5:54 PM, Donna Snow wrote: > >> > >>> I'm sorry guys.. I just realized this meeting room is Windows only.. > >>> the organizations and people I train.. are usually on Windows.. It > >>> didn't even dawn on me that most of the groups is on Linux (or > >>> derivations of..).. > >>> > >>> I'll keep digging for another cross platform solution... for > >>> those who > >>> have to miss tonight because you only have Linux machines.. I'm also > >>> looking into whether I can record tonight's session in GoToMeeting.. > >>> > >>> Donna > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Baypiggies mailing list > >>> Baypiggies at python.org > >>> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > >>> > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Baypiggies mailing list > > Baypiggies at python.org > > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > > From lhawthorn at google.com Wed Jul 11 20:49:02 2007 From: lhawthorn at google.com (Leslie Hawthorn) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 11:49:02 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] Venue Information for July 12th Meeting Message-ID: <4869cee70707111149s4cab50bbt750f1dbeafa7c42f@mail.gmail.com> Hello everyone, This Thursday's BayPiggies meeting will be held in Seville Tech Talk once again, as we were unable to reserve the usual Tunis Tech Talk room. Please plan to check in at Building 41 reception when you arrive and security will escort you over to Seville in Building 40. This information has also been updated on the wiki: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings Cheers, LH -- Leslie Hawthorn Program Manager - Open Source Google Inc. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/baypiggies/attachments/20070711/6aa319d0/attachment.html From vivian.ngai at gmail.com Thu Jul 12 17:37:21 2007 From: vivian.ngai at gmail.com (Vivian Ngai) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 09:37:21 -0600 Subject: [Baypiggies] Transportation for tonight's meeting Message-ID: <9810584d0707120837i6b88530dq47fa350fdeb38f1b@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I am wondering if there are any kind souls out there who might be willing to provide a few students a ride to the meeting tonight? I am from the group of LSA/Stanford participants who would like to join in the meeting, but we only have a car and there are about 7-8 of us who would like to go. I know that some of you will be having dinner at downtown Mountain View and if it's not too much trouble, I would really appreciate if one of you can swing by the Mountain View CalTrain station to pick up a few of us (or at least walk them to the venue from there if that is what you will do). Please email me as soon as possible so we can coordinate the time and place. Thanks, Vivian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/baypiggies/attachments/20070712/4f1bf43d/attachment.htm From stgrimes at indiana.edu Thu Jul 12 19:05:50 2007 From: stgrimes at indiana.edu (Steve Grimes) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 13:05:50 -0400 Subject: [Baypiggies] Transportation for tonight's meeting In-Reply-To: <9810584d0707120837i6b88530dq47fa350fdeb38f1b@mail.gmail.com> References: <9810584d0707120837i6b88530dq47fa350fdeb38f1b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070712130550.w5bpo567co0840kc@webmail.iu.edu> Greetings! I am also in the same situation as some of the students. If anyone is going from the Palo Alto area and can offer a ride, I would certainly be willing to pay for gas expenses! Just name a meeting place and time. -Steve Quoting Vivian Ngai : > Hi, > > I am wondering if there are any kind souls out there who might be willing to > provide a few students a ride to the meeting tonight? I am from the group > of LSA/Stanford participants who would like to join in the meeting, but we > only have a car and there are about 7-8 of us who would like to go. I know > that some of you will be having dinner at downtown Mountain View and if it's > not too much trouble, I would really appreciate if one of you can swing by > the Mountain View CalTrain station to pick up a few of us (or at least walk > them to the venue from there if that is what you will do). Please email me > as soon as possible so we can coordinate the time and place. > > Thanks, > Vivian > From annaraven at gmail.com Thu Jul 12 19:56:13 2007 From: annaraven at gmail.com (Anna Ravenscroft) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 10:56:13 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] Transportation for tonight's meeting In-Reply-To: <9810584d0707120837i6b88530dq47fa350fdeb38f1b@mail.gmail.com> References: <9810584d0707120837i6b88530dq47fa350fdeb38f1b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I can run up to 4 people over in my car and drop you at the restaurant. Anna On 7/12/07, Vivian Ngai wrote: > Hi, > > I am wondering if there are any kind souls out there who might be willing to > provide a few students a ride to the meeting tonight? I am from the group > of LSA/Stanford participants who would like to join in the meeting, but we > only have a car and there are about 7-8 of us who would like to go. I know > that some of you will be having dinner at downtown Mountain View and if it's > not too much trouble, I would really appreciate if one of you can swing by > the Mountain View CalTrain station to pick up a few of us (or at least walk > them to the venue from there if that is what you will do). Please email me > as soon as possible so we can coordinate the time and place. > > Thanks, > Vivian > > _______________________________________________ > Baypiggies mailing list > Baypiggies at python.org > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > -- cordially, Anna -- It is fate, but call it Italy if it pleases you, Vicar! From mrbmahoney at gmail.com Thu Jul 12 21:27:02 2007 From: mrbmahoney at gmail.com (Brian Mahoney) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 12:27:02 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] Transportation for tonight's meeting In-Reply-To: <9810584d0707120837i6b88530dq47fa350fdeb38f1b@mail.gmail.com> References: <9810584d0707120837i6b88530dq47fa350fdeb38f1b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5538c19b0707121227qbdb898dj3ff1d645bbd8579c@mail.gmail.com> Based on the current response there should be enough drivers at the premeeting dinner with space to take your group to Google. Vivian, you should now have my cell phone number so you can call me this afternoon and we CAN decide on meeting at Cafe Yulong or at the train station (only a few blocks apart). Brian On 7/12/07, Vivian Ngai wrote: > Hi, > > I am wondering if there are any kind souls out there who might be willing to > provide a few students a ride to the meeting tonight? I am from the group > of LSA/Stanford participants who would like to join in the meeting, but we > only have a car and there are about 7-8 of us who would like to go. I know > that some of you will be having dinner at downtown Mountain View and if it's > not too much trouble, I would really appreciate if one of you can swing by > the Mountain View CalTrain station to pick up a few of us (or at least walk > them to the venue from there if that is what you will do). Please email me > as soon as possible so we can coordinate the time and place. > > Thanks, > Vivian > > _______________________________________________ > Baypiggies mailing list > Baypiggies at python.org > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > From jjinux at gmail.com Fri Jul 13 01:29:35 2007 From: jjinux at gmail.com (Shannon -jj Behrens) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 16:29:35 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] can't make it tonight Message-ID: Hey guys, Sorry, but I won't be attending tonight. My wife gave birth to number 4 on Sunday :-D Greggory Allen Behrens was born 3:10AM Sunday morning. He weighed a full 12 pounds, and he's 23 3/4 inches long! We had the birth at home with a birthing tub and a midwife. I think he might grow up to be a UNIX programmer because he's already really good with IO and sleep()'ing ;) Happy Hacking! -jj -- http://jjinux.blogspot.com/ From doug at apley.com Fri Jul 13 01:38:17 2007 From: doug at apley.com (Douglas Sims) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 18:38:17 -0500 Subject: [Baypiggies] can't make it tonight In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Congratulations! Now I think you will be chmod-ing a lot of diapers. Douglas Sims Doug at Apley.com On Jul 12, 2007, at 6:29 PM, Shannon -jj Behrens wrote: > Hey guys, > > Sorry, but I won't be attending tonight. My wife gave birth to number > 4 on Sunday :-D > > Greggory Allen Behrens was born 3:10AM Sunday morning. He weighed a > full 12 pounds, and he's 23 3/4 inches long! We had the birth at home > with a birthing tub and a midwife. I think he might grow up to be a > UNIX programmer because he's already really good with IO and > sleep()'ing ;) > > Happy Hacking! > -jj > > -- > http://jjinux.blogspot.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Baypiggies mailing list > Baypiggies at python.org > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies From asheesh at asheesh.org Fri Jul 13 01:53:10 2007 From: asheesh at asheesh.org (Asheesh Laroia) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 16:53:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Baypiggies] can't make it tonight In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 12 Jul 2007, Shannon -jj Behrens wrote: > Hey guys, > > Sorry, but I won't be attending tonight. My wife gave birth to number 4 > on Sunday :-D Congratulations to you two! I'm now in San Francisco again, so maybe you can bring them by the 543 Howard office and I can stop by for old times' sake. (-: -- Asheesh. -- What do you give a man who has everything? Penicillin. -- Jerry Lester From emile at fenx.com Fri Jul 13 02:07:39 2007 From: emile at fenx.com (Emile van Sebille) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 17:07:39 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] can't make it tonight In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4696C24B.20202@fenx.com> Douglas Sims wrote: > Congratulations! > > Now I think you will be chmod-ing a lot of diapers. > Unless you can chown gramma:grampa newkid :)) Emile From asheesh at asheesh.org Fri Jul 13 01:54:05 2007 From: asheesh at asheesh.org (Asheesh Laroia) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 16:54:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Baypiggies] Ride from SF tonight? Message-ID: Anyone going to the BayPiggies meeting from San Francisco who's interested in giving another piggy a ride? Obviously it's late notice. I work at 171 Second St, and live in Noe Valley around 23rd and Dolores. If you do, feel free to give me a call at (585) 506-8865. I apologize for the late notice; I moved into my room for the next two months last night, so I'm still a bit here-and-there.... -- Asheesh. -- Young men think old men are fools; but old men know young men are fools. -- George Chapman From jjinux at gmail.com Tue Jul 17 10:57:56 2007 From: jjinux at gmail.com (Shannon -jj Behrens) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 01:57:56 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] Immediate response requested (Re LinuxWorld Expo) In-Reply-To: <0e2be4274289ce15f966ced76ebf0139@well.com> References: <4693A38F.3070107@mvista.com> <0e2be4274289ce15f966ced76ebf0139@well.com> Message-ID: I'm a Linux diehard, and I always go to LinuxExpo, but I'm not sure what I would do in the booth. -jj On 7/10/07, jim stockford wrote: > golly, do it. I'm going for sure and will spend some > hours in the booth and can demo or otherwise > promote. > > > On Jul 10, 2007, at 8:19 AM, Carl J. Van Arsdall wrote: > > > jim stockford wrote: > >> Would you like bayPIGgies represented at a Linux > >> User's Group booth at LinuxWorld Expo on August > >> 6-9 of this year? > >> If so, would you be willing and able to help at the > >> booth? > >> Anybody got any ideas about bayPIGgies promo > >> materials? > >> Please let me know right away. > >> jim > >> > >> > > That would be pretty cool imho. Although I don't necessarily know > > what to put at the booth, but my first instinct would be to write up a > > little app that ran on an embedded, linux powered device (but i'm > > partial to embedded). > > > > Just throwin that out there. > > > > -carl > > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Baypiggies mailing list > >> Baypiggies at python.org > >> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > >> > > > > > > -- > > > > Carl J. Van Arsdall > > cvanarsdall at mvista.com > > Build and Release > > MontaVista Software > > > > Vision 2007 Embedded Linux Dev Conf Oct 8-10 > > http://www.mvista.com/vision > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Baypiggies mailing list > Baypiggies at python.org > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > -- http://jjinux.blogspot.com/ From jim at well.com Tue Jul 17 17:17:18 2007 From: jim at well.com (jim stockford) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 08:17:18 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] Immediate response requested (Re LinuxWorld Expo) In-Reply-To: References: <4693A38F.3070107@mvista.com> <0e2be4274289ce15f966ced76ebf0139@well.com> Message-ID: <95bb2792e04a7ec4cdf64432f00e2bdb@well.com> smile and promote Linux and open source-ness. the booth will have literature from several LUGs and maybe some bayPIGgies lit as well. the PloneLounge will be sharing the booth as well. if there's a human hanging around the booth, that human can answer queries about LUGs, pass out literature, demo Python goodness on a laptop they bring for the purpose, and help out the PloneLounge folks in whatever way seems useful. There may be enough persons willing to help in the booth that it'll be "manned" for most hours of the LinuxWorld Expo--the list is approaching a dozen volunteers (I'm figuring maybe two thirds will actually show up and help)--figure six hours a day for 8/6 to 8/9, broken into two-hour shifts. On Jul 17, 2007, at 1:57 AM, Shannon -jj Behrens wrote: > I'm a Linux diehard, and I always go to LinuxExpo, but I'm not sure > what I would do in the booth. > > -jj > > On 7/10/07, jim stockford wrote: >> golly, do it. I'm going for sure and will spend some >> hours in the booth and can demo or otherwise >> promote. >> >> >> On Jul 10, 2007, at 8:19 AM, Carl J. Van Arsdall wrote: >> >> > jim stockford wrote: >> >> Would you like bayPIGgies represented at a Linux >> >> User's Group booth at LinuxWorld Expo on August >> >> 6-9 of this year? >> >> If so, would you be willing and able to help at the >> >> booth? >> >> Anybody got any ideas about bayPIGgies promo >> >> materials? >> >> Please let me know right away. >> >> jim >> >> >> >> >> > That would be pretty cool imho. Although I don't necessarily know >> > what to put at the booth, but my first instinct would be to write >> up a >> > little app that ran on an embedded, linux powered device (but i'm >> > partial to embedded). >> > >> > Just throwin that out there. >> > >> > -carl >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Baypiggies mailing list >> >> Baypiggies at python.org >> >> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: >> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies >> >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > Carl J. Van Arsdall >> > cvanarsdall at mvista.com >> > Build and Release >> > MontaVista Software >> > >> > Vision 2007 Embedded Linux Dev Conf Oct 8-10 >> > http://www.mvista.com/vision >> > >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Baypiggies mailing list >> Baypiggies at python.org >> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies >> > > > -- > http://jjinux.blogspot.com/ > From k3vin.steele at gmail.com Tue Jul 17 18:16:10 2007 From: k3vin.steele at gmail.com (Kevin Steele) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 09:16:10 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] Anyone interested in participating the ICFP Programming Contest? Message-ID: Anyone interested in participating the ICFP Programming Contest? The contest runs from July 20 through July 23, 2007. Start time is 12:00 (noon) CEST (Central European Summer Time) on Friday (which is 3 AM PDT Friday), and entries are accepted until 12:00 (noon) CEST on Monday (3 AM PDT Monday). Go to http://www.icfpcontest.org for the details. My goals are: * Having fun and learn * Having as many BayPiggies participating as possible * Use Python as much as possible So who's interested? Comments? Questions? -kevin From donnamsnow at gmail.com Tue Jul 17 18:50:49 2007 From: donnamsnow at gmail.com (Donna Snow) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 09:50:49 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] Immediate response requested (Re LinuxWorld Expo) In-Reply-To: <95bb2792e04a7ec4cdf64432f00e2bdb@well.com> References: <4693A38F.3070107@mvista.com> <0e2be4274289ce15f966ced76ebf0139@well.com> <95bb2792e04a7ec4cdf64432f00e2bdb@well.com> Message-ID: I manned a booth last year.. representing Plone Lounge.. I will be there.. (though I need to touch base with PloneLounge and take a look at their volunteer sign ups.. ) Manning the booth is a fun thing.. just talk about what you love.. answer questions (if they have any).. sit back and enjoy.. There is also a Linux picnic the following weekend my kids and I attend.. (we've gone two years in a row) http://www.linuxpicnic.org/twiki/bin/view/Picnix16/ Donna On 7/17/07, jim stockford wrote: > > smile and promote Linux and open source-ness. > the booth will have literature from several LUGs > and maybe some bayPIGgies lit as well. the > PloneLounge will be sharing the booth as well. > if there's a human hanging around the booth, > that human can answer queries about LUGs, > pass out literature, demo Python goodness on a > laptop they bring for the purpose, and help out > the PloneLounge folks in whatever way seems > useful. > There may be enough persons willing to help > in the booth that it'll be "manned" for most hours > of the LinuxWorld Expo--the list is approaching > a dozen volunteers (I'm figuring maybe two thirds > will actually show up and help)--figure six hours > a day for 8/6 to 8/9, broken into two-hour shifts. > > > On Jul 17, 2007, at 1:57 AM, Shannon -jj Behrens wrote: > > > I'm a Linux diehard, and I always go to LinuxExpo, but I'm not sure > > what I would do in the booth. > > > > -jj > > > > On 7/10/07, jim stockford wrote: > >> golly, do it. I'm going for sure and will spend some > >> hours in the booth and can demo or otherwise > >> promote. > >> > >> > >> On Jul 10, 2007, at 8:19 AM, Carl J. Van Arsdall wrote: > >> > >> > jim stockford wrote: > >> >> Would you like bayPIGgies represented at a Linux > >> >> User's Group booth at LinuxWorld Expo on August > >> >> 6-9 of this year? > >> >> If so, would you be willing and able to help at the > >> >> booth? > >> >> Anybody got any ideas about bayPIGgies promo > >> >> materials? > >> >> Please let me know right away. > >> >> jim > >> >> > >> >> > >> > That would be pretty cool imho. Although I don't necessarily know > >> > what to put at the booth, but my first instinct would be to write > >> up a > >> > little app that ran on an embedded, linux powered device (but i'm > >> > partial to embedded). > >> > > >> > Just throwin that out there. > >> > > >> > -carl > >> > > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> Baypiggies mailing list > >> >> Baypiggies at python.org > >> >> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > >> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > > >> > Carl J. Van Arsdall > >> > cvanarsdall at mvista.com > >> > Build and Release > >> > MontaVista Software > >> > > >> > Vision 2007 Embedded Linux Dev Conf Oct 8-10 > >> > http://www.mvista.com/vision > >> > > >> > > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Baypiggies mailing list > >> Baypiggies at python.org > >> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > >> > > > > > > -- > > http://jjinux.blogspot.com/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Baypiggies mailing list > Baypiggies at python.org > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > From jjinux at gmail.com Wed Jul 18 06:09:37 2007 From: jjinux at gmail.com (Shannon -jj Behrens) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:09:37 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] Anyone interested in participating the ICFP Programming Contest? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 7/17/07, Kevin Steele wrote: > Anyone interested in participating the ICFP Programming Contest? The > contest runs from July 20 through July 23, 2007. Start time is 12:00 > (noon) CEST (Central European Summer Time) on Friday (which is 3 AM > PDT Friday), and entries are accepted until 12:00 (noon) CEST on > Monday (3 AM PDT Monday). > > Go to http://www.icfpcontest.org for the details. > > My goals are: > * Having fun and learn > * Having as many BayPiggies participating as possible > * Use Python as much as possible > > So who's interested? Comments? Questions? I tried it years ago using Ocaml. I almost had a nervous breakdown, and I vowed to never use Ocaml again. The funny thing was that on the last day, I switched to using Python, and I got something working enough to submit an entry in just one day. My advice is, don't try to win--that's too stressful. Submitting an entry at all is quite an accomplishment, so let that be your goal. I don't know if I'm up to doing the ICFP, but I'd love a partner for PyWeek. That's a week long contest, and it's meant to be way more low key. I submitted an entry for the last PyWeek in April, and although it was exhausting, it was a lot closer to being fun. Best of all, you're expected to "have a life" during the contest, whereas during the ICFP, that's simply not possible: http://jjinux.blogspot.com/2007/04/python-pyweek.html Happy Hacking! -jj -- http://jjinux.blogspot.com/ From washakie at gmail.com Wed Jul 18 09:34:21 2007 From: washakie at gmail.com (John) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 09:34:21 +0200 Subject: [Baypiggies] Python Courses in the Bay Area Message-ID: Can anyone make some recommendations for some entry level programming courses in the Bay Area... ideally in September, something short and intensive like Joel Burton's Plone Bootcamps, but for Python Programming? Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/baypiggies/attachments/20070718/39c0a064/attachment.html From jjinux at gmail.com Mon Jul 23 07:47:19 2007 From: jjinux at gmail.com (Shannon -jj Behrens) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 22:47:19 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] Fwd: Python Course In-Reply-To: <46a3c2ec.18bd720a.1038.13dfSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> References: <46a3c2ec.18bd720a.1038.13dfSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Marilyn Davis Date: Jul 22, 2007 1:49 PM Subject: Python Course To: jjinux at gmail.com http://ucsc-extension.edu/ucsc/search/publicCourseSearchDetails.do?method=load&courseId=1531625 I'm teaching a low-stress, fast-paced, lab-based, very comprehensive Python Course: 4 days August 20 - 23 in Sunnyvale. This is essentially the same class that I teach in corporate environments, including Google, Nokia, Cisco and others. It's a great opportunity to get up to speed quickly. It works best if you have programming chops in some language. But if you don't, and you are satisfied to come away with the ability to read and understand Python, you'll still like the course. Hope to see you there. Marilyn Davis p.s. If you would like a Python course at your workplace, let me know. We can arrange it through UC so that you get university credit, or independently, so it's more economical. -- http://jjinux.blogspot.com/ From max at theslimmers.net Mon Jul 23 20:09:00 2007 From: max at theslimmers.net (Max Slimmer) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 11:09:00 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] Access to videos Message-ID: <200707231809.l6NI9B2C000542@a.mail.sonic.net> I am interested in locating the video for the nltk talk, is this available yet, and is there a place to look for previous meeting videos. Thanks, max From wescpy at gmail.com Mon Jul 23 20:59:25 2007 From: wescpy at gmail.com (wesley chun) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 11:59:25 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] Python Courses in the Bay Area In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <78b3a9580707231159n159fee87sa438679da1b30e31@mail.gmail.com> > Can anyone make some recommendations for some entry level programming > courses in the Bay Area... ideally in September, something short and > intensive like Joel Burton's Plone Bootcamps, but for Python Programming? john and everyone, i'd like to announce my final Python courses for 2007: 2 PYTHON COURSES THIS FALL WITH WESLEY CHUN Need to get up-to-speed with Python as quickly as possible? Come join me, Wesley Chun, author of Prentice-Hall's well-received "Core Python Programming," for another set of courses this Fall in beautiful Northern California! This will be the final set for 2007... if you miss these, you'll have to wait until Spring 2008. I look forward to meeting you! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - (COMPREHENSIVE) INTRODUCTION TO PYTHON: Mon-Wed, 2007 Oct 8-10 This is an comprehensive introduction will immerse you in the world of Python in only a few days. It is directed towards those who have some proficiency in another high-level language who need to learn Python as quickly and as in-depth as possible. The main goal of the course is to show you more than just its syntax (which you don't really need a book or a class to learn, right?). Knowing more about how Python works under the covers, including the relationship between data objects and memory management, will make you a much more effective Python programmer coming out of the gate. You will also get 3 hands-on labs a day to hammer the concepts home. $1295 per attendee (discounts available... see below) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - INTERNET PROGRAMMING WITH PYTHON: Sat, 2007 Oct 13 This 1-day course will introduce current Python programmers to 3 distinct areas of Internet programming, each in self-contained modules with a set of lab exercises following each lecture topic: - Network Programming using Sockets - Internet Client Programming - Web/CGI Programming + Introduction to Django $495 per attendee ($395 for those also attending the intro course) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - WHERE: near the San Francisco Airport (SFO/San Bruno), CA, USA WEB: http://cyberwebconsulting.com (click "Python Training") LOCALS: easy freeway (101/280/380) with lots of parking plus public transit (BART and CalTrain) access via the San Bruno stations, easily accessible from all parts of the Bay Area VISITORS: free shuttle to/from the airport, free high-speed internet, free breakfast and regular evening receptions; fully-equipped suites DISCOUNTS: available for multiple registrations as well as teachers, university staff, and students. hope to see you there! -- wesley - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - "Core Python Programming", Prentice Hall, (c)2007,2001 http://corepython.com wesley.j.chun :: wescpy-at-gmail.com python training and technical consulting cyberweb.consulting : silicon valley, ca http://cyberwebconsulting.com From lhawthorn at google.com Mon Jul 23 23:07:27 2007 From: lhawthorn at google.com (Leslie Hawthorn) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:07:27 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] Access to videos In-Reply-To: <200707231809.l6NI9B2C000542@a.mail.sonic.net> References: <200707231809.l6NI9B2C000542@a.mail.sonic.net> Message-ID: <4869cee70707231407y257a6d86t4860cf912c7769df@mail.gmail.com> Hi Max, I have a request in to have the video put on YouTube. It should be uploaded by mid this week in the official Google YouTube Channel. Cheers, LH On 7/23/07, Max Slimmer wrote: > > I am interested in locating the video for the nltk talk, is this available > yet, and is there a place to look for previous meeting videos. > > Thanks, > > max > > _______________________________________________ > Baypiggies mailing list > Baypiggies at python.org > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > -- Leslie Hawthorn Program Manager - Open Source Google Inc. http://code.google.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It should be > uploaded by mid this week in the official Google YouTube Channel. > > Cheers, > LH > > On 7/23/07, * Max Slimmer* > wrote: > > I am interested in locating the video for the nltk talk, is this > available > yet, and is there a place to look for previous meeting videos. > > Thanks, > > max > > _______________________________________________ > Baypiggies mailing list > Baypiggies at python.org > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > > > > > > -- > Leslie Hawthorn > Program Manager - Open Source > Google Inc. > > http://code.google.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Baypiggies mailing list > Baypiggies at python.org > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies From lhawthorn at google.com Mon Jul 23 23:23:37 2007 From: lhawthorn at google.com (Leslie Hawthorn) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:23:37 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] Access to videos In-Reply-To: <46A51C02.8070001@vmware.com> References: <200707231809.l6NI9B2C000542@a.mail.sonic.net> <4869cee70707231407y257a6d86t4860cf912c7769df@mail.gmail.com> <46A51C02.8070001@vmware.com> Message-ID: <4869cee70707231423o1cf9794u6d2268202f798c57@mail.gmail.com> It is indeed: http://www.youtube.com/user/google I also just received a message that they're having trouble with the video upload, and as I am traveling it will be hard for me to help get it resolved. When I know the video has gone live, I will post to the list. Cheers, LH On 7/23/07, Adhyas Avasthi wrote: > > What is the official Google YouTube Channel? Is it accessible to outside > world? > > - Adhyas > > Leslie Hawthorn wrote: > > Hi Max, > > > > I have a request in to have the video put on YouTube. It should be > > uploaded by mid this week in the official Google YouTube Channel. > > > > Cheers, > > LH > > > > On 7/23/07, * Max Slimmer* > > wrote: > > > > I am interested in locating the video for the nltk talk, is this > > available > > yet, and is there a place to look for previous meeting videos. > > > > Thanks, > > > > max > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Baypiggies mailing list > > Baypiggies at python.org > > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Leslie Hawthorn > > Program Manager - Open Source > > Google Inc. > > > > http://code.google.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Baypiggies mailing list > > Baypiggies at python.org > > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies > > -- Leslie Hawthorn Program Manager - Open Source Google Inc. http://code.google.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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You will have to get in on your own (as an exhibitor for someone else or with a free exhibit hall pass: http://www.linuxworldexpo.com/live/12/ jim at well.com From rdm at cfcl.com Tue Jul 24 19:22:06 2007 From: rdm at cfcl.com (Rich Morin) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 10:22:06 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] BASS Meeting (SF), Wed. July 25 Message-ID: The Beer and Scripting SIG rides again! If you'd like to eat good Italian food, chat with other local scripters, and possibly take a look at laptop-demoed scripting hacks, this is the place to do it! For your convenience, here are the critical details: Date: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 (4th. Wed.) Time: 8:00 pm Place: Pasquales Pizzeria 701 Irving St. (At 8th. Ave.) San Francisco, California, USA 415/661-2140 See the BASS web page for more information: http://cfcl.com/rdm/bass/ -r -- http://www.cfcl.com/rdm Rich Morin http://www.cfcl.com/rdm/resume rdm at cfcl.com http://www.cfcl.com/rdm/weblog +1 650-873-7841 Technical editing and writing, programming, and web development From spmcinerney at hotmail.com Sat Jul 28 00:23:59 2007 From: spmcinerney at hotmail.com (Stephen McInerney) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 15:23:59 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] BayPIGgies Aug 9 newbies mtg Message-ID: FYI, BayPIGggies August 9 meeting is supposed to be a Python newbies night (bring a friend). "Python for Programmers Part 2" Details TBD at: www.baypiggies.net or baypiggies at python.org mailing-list Regards, Stephen _________________________________________________________________ http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_2G_0507 From ken at seehart.com Mon Jul 30 23:00:27 2007 From: ken at seehart.com (Ken Seehart) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 14:00:27 -0700 Subject: [Baypiggies] Possible talk: In-Reply-To: <467DAF85.1030808@seehart.com> References: <467D1150.8010109@seehart.com> <007f01c7b5b5$c69ca090$240110ac@Muse> <467DAF85.1030808@seehart.com> Message-ID: <46AE516B.30703@seehart.com> Maybe October for "A Nondualist Alternative to Proxy Wrapper Theory" since it's not a newbies topic? - Ken > FYI, > > BayPIGggies August 9 meeting is supposed to be a Python newbies night > (bring a friend). > "Python for Programmers Part 2" > > Details TBD at: > www.baypiggies.net > or baypiggies at python.org mailing-list > > Regards, > Stephen > > Ken Seehart wrote: > Yeah, I was thinking August too. I will be in Japan in September. > > Ken > > jim stockford wrote: >> remember this July meeting is the second >> part of Alex' Python for Programmers talk. >> Next available slot is August. >> >> On Jun 23, 2007, at 10:50 AM, Donna Snow wrote: >> >> >>> get a meeting synopsis posted (jim?).. and I'll put that on the site.. >>> before I get busy at the Plone sprint this week... >>> >>> Donna >>> >>> >>> On 6/23/07, Warren Stringer wrote: >>> >>>> +1! >>>> >>>> Highly relevant and timely. >>>> >>>> >>>>> Time: 45 minutes to 1 hour. Probably not for beginner night :-) Let >>>>> me >>>>> >>>> know if you are interested. >>>> >>>> - Ken Seehart >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Baypiggies mailing list >>>> Baypiggies at python.org >>>> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Baypiggies mailing list >>> Baypiggies at python.org >>> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Baypiggies mailing list >> Baypiggies at python.org >> To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies >> >> >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Baypiggies mailing list > Baypiggies at python.org > To change your subscription options or unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/baypiggies -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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