From vsapre80 at gmail.com  Sat May  1 00:30:27 2010
From: vsapre80 at gmail.com (Vishal)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 04:00:27 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] @dabeaz visiting b'lore
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On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Arvind Jamuna Dixit <ardsrk at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > No other suggestions?
> > The GIL thing is probably going to be a conversation about methods of
> > fixing it, improving it's performance. It'd probably require some in
> > depth knowledge of the GIL implementation.
> >
>
> I just looked up the TOC of his book ( The Python Essential Reference ).
> There I
> saw ABCs being listed under "Chapter 15. Data Structure, Algorithms and
> Code
> Simplification".
>
> Then there is "Generators and Coroutines".
>
> So, if others think GIL is a dry subject or something that requires
> preparation
> beforehand then we could ask him to talk about ABCs, Generators and
> Coroutines and
> then if time permits on the GIL.
>
> Is that OK?
> --
> Arvind
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Hi,

my 2 cents and things I would be interested in...

I think it would also help to know in general about interpreters, and the
python interpreter particularly.
about having JITs for Python interpreter etc. And improving Python
performance in general..using dataflow optimizations to the bytecode itself.
Also about packaging in Python, what are his thoughts on the ideal solution.
And about his experience on concurrency approaches in Python....coroutines
vs threads vs processes etc

Thanks and best regards,
Vishal Sapre

From jaganadhg at gmail.com  Sat May  1 06:51:43 2010
From: jaganadhg at gmail.com (JAGANADH G)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 10:21:43 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Equivalent to Nokogiri in Python
Message-ID: <y2mae55eb501004302151ud0a28864gf496ca3a0037d220@mail.gmail.com>

Dear All
Is there any equivalent to Nokogiri (Ruby) in Python ?

With regards
Jaggu

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From orsenthil at gmail.com  Sat May  1 06:57:56 2010
From: orsenthil at gmail.com (Senthil Kumaran)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 10:27:56 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Equivalent to Nokogiri in Python
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On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 10:21 AM, JAGANADH G <jaganadhg at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear All
> Is there any equivalent to Nokogiri (Ruby) in Python ?

It is difficult for us if you specify Jargons. I understand Nokogiri
is XML parser with some good capabilities to deal with XPATH
Similar programs in python include ElementTree, BeautifulSoup and with
specific to RSS and Atom Feeds: feedparser.

HTH,
Senthil

From brijithp at gmail.com  Sat May  1 07:04:22 2010
From: brijithp at gmail.com (BR!j!TH)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 10:34:22 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] if we compare Rails and django
Message-ID: <t2u99f221551004302204j97cb5253va741a1e18e814f0e@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Which is the best web framework Rails or Django.

From admin.nitjece at gmail.com  Sat May  1 07:47:24 2010
From: admin.nitjece at gmail.com (Diptanu Choudhury)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 11:17:24 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] if we compare Rails and django
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What's your purpose and the domain that you are going to work on? Django and
Rails have their strengths and weaknesses. So, it all depends what your
purpose is.

On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 10:34 AM, BR!j!TH <brijithp at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Which is the best web framework Rails or Django.
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



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Mobile - 09886760964
Web - www.linkedin.com/in/diptanu

From kausikram at gmail.com  Sat May  1 08:05:07 2010
From: kausikram at gmail.com (kausikram krishnasayee)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 11:35:07 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Equivalent to Nokogiri in Python
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>
> [..] It is difficult for us if you specify Jargons. I understand Nokogiri
> is XML parser with some good capabilities to deal with XPATH
> Similar programs in python include ElementTree, BeautifulSoup [..]
>
also lxml

-- 
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blog.kausikram.net | Twitter: http://twitter.com/kausikram | Email:
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From brijithp at gmail.com  Sat May  1 08:14:13 2010
From: brijithp at gmail.com (BR!j!TH)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 11:44:13 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] if we compare Rails and django
In-Reply-To: <j2raedece081004302247pf10a2802yc3084e8af3b6a25c@mail.gmail.com>
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If I want to create a web app with lots of ajax,java scripts and also video
streaming etc


On 1 May 2010 11:17, Diptanu Choudhury <admin.nitjece at gmail.com> wrote:

> What's your purpose and the domain that you are going to work on? Django
> and
> Rails have their strengths and weaknesses. So, it all depends what your
> purpose is.
>
> On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 10:34 AM, BR!j!TH <brijithp at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Which is the best web framework Rails or Django.
> > _______________________________________________
> > BangPypers mailing list
> > BangPypers at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Diptanu Choudhury
> Just a Coder, ThoughtWorks India
> Mobile - 09886760964
> Web - www.linkedin.com/in/diptanu
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>

From gora at srijan.in  Sat May  1 09:15:05 2010
From: gora at srijan.in (Gora Mohanty)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 12:45:05 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] if we compare Rails and django
In-Reply-To: <h2m99f221551004302314oa96585bdu907ba45f43f74ef6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <t2u99f221551004302204j97cb5253va741a1e18e814f0e@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <20100501124505.59885643@ibis>

On Sat, 1 May 2010 11:44:13 +0530
"BR!j!TH" <brijithp at gmail.com> wrote:

> If I want to create a web app with lots of ajax,java scripts and
> also video streaming etc
[...]

Both RoR and Django should be able to address this. You should be
thinking more along the lines of:
* Your developers, and their expertise: Are they already well-versed
  in one of the two frameworks, and/or one of the two languages
  behind each?
* Are there any particular pre-made applications for either
  framework that you can leverage to your needs?
* Are there any drawbacks for the framework in question that
  becomes a show-stopper for your use case?
* Are there any advantages for the framework in question, e.g.,
  does the Django admin. interface help?

Google also turns up many links comparing Django, and RoR, e.g.,
http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dcn8282p_1hg4sr9

Personally speaking, I am more comfortable with Django, but that is
probably also because I have only experimented with RoR. My one key
point of differentiation is how easy it is to read, and understand
code in Python, and Django. As compared to that, RoR, has too much
magic behind the scenes, IMHO (Some parts of the Django admin.
being the exception here).

Regards,
Gora

From noufal at gmail.com  Sat May  1 10:03:38 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 13:33:38 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] if we compare Rails and django
In-Reply-To: <t2u99f221551004302204j97cb5253va741a1e18e814f0e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <t2u99f221551004302204j97cb5253va741a1e18e814f0e@mail.gmail.com>
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On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 10:34 AM, BR!j!TH <brijithp at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Which is the best web framework Rails or Django.[..]

Perl cgi.



-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From gora at srijan.in  Sat May  1 10:08:49 2010
From: gora at srijan.in (Gora Mohanty)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 13:38:49 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] if we compare Rails and django
In-Reply-To: <x2q9963e56e1005010103j91c52bf5v8eb9d31c52c25e94@mail.gmail.com>
References: <t2u99f221551004302204j97cb5253va741a1e18e814f0e@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <20100501133849.251d1345@ibis>

On Sat, 1 May 2010 13:33:38 +0530
Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 10:34 AM, BR!j!TH <brijithp at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Which is the best web framework Rails or Django.[..]
> 
> Perl cgi.

+1

No, +infinity!

Regards,
Gora

From jeffjosejeff at gmail.com  Sat May  1 11:03:07 2010
From: jeffjosejeff at gmail.com (Jeffrey Jose)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 14:33:07 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] if we compare Rails and django
In-Reply-To: <h2m99f221551004302314oa96585bdu907ba45f43f74ef6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <t2u99f221551004302204j97cb5253va741a1e18e814f0e@mail.gmail.com>
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Forgive if I sound rude, but whenever I see replies like "lots of this and
lots of that" I get a feeling that you dont really know what you're going to
do.

I admire the fact that you want to use the _best_ in the business but you
should be mature enough to understand that however good something seems, it
has its own weakness. The key is to use something which compliments what
you're looking for. And "lots of ajax and javascript and also video
streaming" is not what you're looking for..

Its like saying .. which is the best - Mac or PC . and oh I do a lot of
clicking, opening applications and browsing internet.

I'm guessing you already know Rails and Django are in 2 different languages
- which means if we choose something for you you'll have to "learn" that
language - unless you know both in which case you wouldn't have asked this
question in the first place.

*First rule of asking anything on internet - convey the idea that you've
done your homework. Nobody likes to talk to a rubber duck who just asks
random questions. If I find someone who's honestly tried before but is just
asking an opinion I'll be glad to help*

+1 for Perl CGI. After all Internet was built on Perl.

/jeff

On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 11:44 AM, BR!j!TH <brijithp at gmail.com> wrote:

> If I want to create a web app with lots of ajax,java scripts and also video
> streaming etc
>
>
> On 1 May 2010 11:17, Diptanu Choudhury <admin.nitjece at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > What's your purpose and the domain that you are going to work on? Django
> > and
> > Rails have their strengths and weaknesses. So, it all depends what your
> > purpose is.
> >
> > On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 10:34 AM, BR!j!TH <brijithp at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Which is the best web framework Rails or Django.
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > BangPypers mailing list
> > > BangPypers at python.org
> > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanks,
> > Diptanu Choudhury
> > Just a Coder, ThoughtWorks India
> > Mobile - 09886760964
> > Web - www.linkedin.com/in/diptanu
> > _______________________________________________
> > BangPypers mailing list
> > BangPypers at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
> >
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>

From noufal at gmail.com  Sat May  1 12:19:41 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 15:49:41 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] if we compare Rails and django
In-Reply-To: <x2q9963e56e1005010103j91c52bf5v8eb9d31c52c25e94@mail.gmail.com>
References: <t2u99f221551004302204j97cb5253va741a1e18e814f0e@mail.gmail.com>
	<x2q9963e56e1005010103j91c52bf5v8eb9d31c52c25e94@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <w2j9963e56e1005010319xd0121a02t40c8414eec6a0ce3@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 10:34 AM, BR!j!TH <brijithp at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Which is the best web framework Rails or Django.[..]
>
> Perl cgi.

[..]

Just in case my oft misplaced sarcasm doesn't come across properly via. email.

My answer was was essentially Mu -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu_(negative) i.e. "Unask the question" -
Your question was too general and too misinformed to reply to. If
there was an unconditionally superior product (in all senses), the
other would, in a short while, wither and die. Since that hasn't
happened and both of the frameworks you asked about are quite alive,
it's fair to assume that both are good choices. You'd be best off
trying them both out, doing some more research and asking more
specific questions.

However, if you want a *real* answer, like I said, it's perl cgi.

-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Sat May  1 17:32:57 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 21:02:57 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] if we compare Rails and django
In-Reply-To: <x2q9963e56e1005010103j91c52bf5v8eb9d31c52c25e94@mail.gmail.com>
References: <t2u99f221551004302204j97cb5253va741a1e18e814f0e@mail.gmail.com>
	<x2q9963e56e1005010103j91c52bf5v8eb9d31c52c25e94@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201005012102.58040.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Saturday 01 May 2010 1:33:38 pm Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Which is the best web framework Rails or Django.[..]
> 
> Perl cgi.
> 

python cgi is better - and zope rocks
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Associate
NRC-FOSS
http://certificate.nrcfoss.au-kbc.org.in

From kausikram at gmail.com  Sat May  1 20:04:40 2010
From: kausikram at gmail.com (kausikram krishnasayee)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 23:34:40 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] if we compare Rails and django
In-Reply-To: <201005012102.58040.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <t2u99f221551004302204j97cb5253va741a1e18e814f0e@mail.gmail.com>
	<x2q9963e56e1005010103j91c52bf5v8eb9d31c52c25e94@mail.gmail.com>
	<201005012102.58040.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
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>
> python cgi is better - and zope rocks
>

zope3 rocks. correction.

-- 
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Company: http://silverstripesoftware.com | Webpage: kausikram.net | Blog:
blog.kausikram.net | Twitter: http://twitter.com/kausikram | Email:
kausikram at gmail.com | Mobile: +91 9884246490

From mbaiju at zeomega.com  Sat May  1 20:25:54 2010
From: mbaiju at zeomega.com (Baiju M)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 23:55:54 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] if we compare Rails and django
In-Reply-To: <i2p2597ddb91005011104t7b002daft3c17a05cbb39438a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <t2u99f221551004302204j97cb5253va741a1e18e814f0e@mail.gmail.com>
	<x2q9963e56e1005010103j91c52bf5v8eb9d31c52c25e94@mail.gmail.com>
	<201005012102.58040.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<i2p2597ddb91005011104t7b002daft3c17a05cbb39438a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <p2ic911c70d1005011125z58160fc1o8b1bce1c23d8e726@mail.gmail.com>

FYI, Zope 3 is renamed to BlueBream : http://bluebream.zope.org

Regards,
Baiju M



On 5/1/10, kausikram krishnasayee <kausikram at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> python cgi is better - and zope rocks
>>
>
> zope3 rocks. correction.
>
> --
> Kausikram Krishnasayee
> Company: http://silverstripesoftware.com | Webpage: kausikram.net | Blog:
> blog.kausikram.net | Twitter: http://twitter.com/kausikram | Email:
> kausikram at gmail.com | Mobile: +91 9884246490
> _______________________________________________
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> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Sat May  1 20:27:45 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 23:57:45 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] if we compare Rails and django
In-Reply-To: <i2p2597ddb91005011104t7b002daft3c17a05cbb39438a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <t2u99f221551004302204j97cb5253va741a1e18e814f0e@mail.gmail.com>
	<201005012102.58040.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<i2p2597ddb91005011104t7b002daft3c17a05cbb39438a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201005012357.45896.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Saturday 01 May 2010 11:34:40 pm kausikram krishnasayee wrote:
> > python cgi is better - and zope rocks
> 
> zope3 rocks. correction.
> 

but the best framework that is miles ahead of all competition is Frontpage 
with access backend controlled by dreamweaver.
-- 
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Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Associate
NRC-FOSS
http://certificate.nrcfoss.au-kbc.org.in

From orsenthil at gmail.com  Sat May  1 20:35:14 2010
From: orsenthil at gmail.com (Senthil Kumaran)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 00:05:14 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Bluebream
Message-ID: <20100501183514.GA16017@remy>

On Sat, May 01, 2010 at 11:55:54PM +0530, Baiju M wrote:
> FYI, Zope 3 is renamed to BlueBream : http://bluebream.zope.org

Hi Baiju,

I thought Bluebream was a new web framework. I was looking around the
site and at ohloh site and at ohloh when I looked the lines of code,
it was in small, so I thought it was a new framework based on zope.

Would you like to share more about bluebream? Is it just a namechange?

-- 
Senthil


From noufal at gmail.com  Sat May  1 20:38:14 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 00:08:14 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Bluebream
In-Reply-To: <20100501183514.GA16017@remy>
References: <20100501183514.GA16017@remy>
Message-ID: <x2t9963e56e1005011138mac40a9a2oc596b4c41bac8f99@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 12:05 AM, Senthil Kumaran <orsenthil at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, May 01, 2010 at 11:55:54PM +0530, Baiju M wrote:
>> FYI, Zope 3 is renamed to BlueBream : http://bluebream.zope.org
>
> Hi Baiju,
>
> I thought Bluebream was a new web framework. I was looking around the
> site and at ohloh site and at ohloh when I looked the lines of code,
> it was in small, so I thought it was a new framework based on zope.
>
> Would you like to share more about bluebream? Is it just a namechange?

Baiju mentioned this during on the user group meetings a month or two
ago. Here's the reddit thread.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/arjgo/bluebream_is_the_new_name_for_zope_3/

As far as I can tell, it's just a namechange.

-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From jeffjosejeff at gmail.com  Sat May  1 22:03:30 2010
From: jeffjosejeff at gmail.com (Jeffrey Jose)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 01:33:30 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] if we compare Rails and django
In-Reply-To: <201005012357.45896.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <t2u99f221551004302204j97cb5253va741a1e18e814f0e@mail.gmail.com>
	<201005012102.58040.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<i2p2597ddb91005011104t7b002daft3c17a05cbb39438a@mail.gmail.com>
	<201005012357.45896.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <r2scae1cffe1005011303v674269fi5fc62e7c0d6af995@mail.gmail.com>

ah, DreamWeaver. Good old days.

On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 11:57 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>wrote:

> On Saturday 01 May 2010 11:34:40 pm kausikram krishnasayee wrote:
> > > python cgi is better - and zope rocks
> >
> > zope3 rocks. correction.
> >
>
> but the best framework that is miles ahead of all competition is Frontpage
> with access backend controlled by dreamweaver.
> --
> regards
> Kenneth Gonsalves
> Senior Associate
> NRC-FOSS
> http://certificate.nrcfoss.au-kbc.org.in
> _______________________________________________
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> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>

From dhananjay.nene at gmail.com  Sat May  1 22:29:13 2010
From: dhananjay.nene at gmail.com (Dhananjay Nene)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 01:59:13 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] if we compare Rails and django
In-Reply-To: <h2m99f221551004302314oa96585bdu907ba45f43f74ef6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <t2u99f221551004302204j97cb5253va741a1e18e814f0e@mail.gmail.com>
	<j2raedece081004302247pf10a2802yc3084e8af3b6a25c@mail.gmail.com>
	<h2m99f221551004302314oa96585bdu907ba45f43f74ef6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <u2nbf97ab891005011329qed6c2478wb5d3cb8e415c206b@mail.gmail.com>

To the best of my knowledge ajax, java scripts require you to carefully
select a good client side library. I would suggest jquery. I have no clue
about video streaming.

There is little in your question to help decide the choice of the framework.
However the frameworks are the carts. The languages you prefer are the
horses. So I would suggest focus on deciding which language you are more
comfortable with (put the horse before the cart). And if language doesn't
matter - CGI or PHP might serve just as well :)

On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 11:44 AM, BR!j!TH <brijithp at gmail.com> wrote:

> If I want to create a web app with lots of ajax,java scripts and also video
> streaming etc
>
>
> On 1 May 2010 11:17, Diptanu Choudhury <admin.nitjece at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > What's your purpose and the domain that you are going to work on? Django
> > and
> > Rails have their strengths and weaknesses. So, it all depends what your
> > purpose is.
> >
> > On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 10:34 AM, BR!j!TH <brijithp at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Which is the best web framework Rails or Django.
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > BangPypers mailing list
> > > BangPypers at python.org
> > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanks,
> > Diptanu Choudhury
> > Just a Coder, ThoughtWorks India
> > Mobile - 09886760964
> > Web - www.linkedin.com/in/diptanu
> > _______________________________________________
> > BangPypers mailing list
> > BangPypers at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
> >
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



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--------------------------------------------------------
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From jeffjosejeff at gmail.com  Sat May  1 22:38:50 2010
From: jeffjosejeff at gmail.com (Jeffrey Jose)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 02:08:50 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] if we compare Rails and django
In-Reply-To: <u2nbf97ab891005011329qed6c2478wb5d3cb8e415c206b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <t2u99f221551004302204j97cb5253va741a1e18e814f0e@mail.gmail.com>
	<j2raedece081004302247pf10a2802yc3084e8af3b6a25c@mail.gmail.com>
	<h2m99f221551004302314oa96585bdu907ba45f43f74ef6@mail.gmail.com>
	<u2nbf97ab891005011329qed6c2478wb5d3cb8e415c206b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <r2scae1cffe1005011338ma86c259bo481cd062af09b796@mail.gmail.com>

I second suggestion of jQuery. I've had fantastic results with jQuery so I
can totally recommend that. Also I remember reading about django and jQuery
integration a while back - althou' I never really tried that myself.

If you happen to choose django (and jQuery without any second thoughts for
client side work) I'm just saying (from what I've read online) they get
along pretty well.

Good luck.
/jeff

On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 1:59 AM, Dhananjay Nene <dhananjay.nene at gmail.com>wrote:

> To the best of my knowledge ajax, java scripts require you to carefully
> select a good client side library. I would suggest jquery. I have no clue
> about video streaming.
>
> There is little in your question to help decide the choice of the
> framework.
> However the frameworks are the carts. The languages you prefer are the
> horses. So I would suggest focus on deciding which language you are more
> comfortable with (put the horse before the cart). And if language doesn't
> matter - CGI or PHP might serve just as well :)
>
> On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 11:44 AM, BR!j!TH <brijithp at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > If I want to create a web app with lots of ajax,java scripts and also
> video
> > streaming etc
> >
> >
> > On 1 May 2010 11:17, Diptanu Choudhury <admin.nitjece at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > What's your purpose and the domain that you are going to work on?
> Django
> > > and
> > > Rails have their strengths and weaknesses. So, it all depends what your
> > > purpose is.
> > >
> > > On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 10:34 AM, BR!j!TH <brijithp at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Which is the best web framework Rails or Django.
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > BangPypers mailing list
> > > > BangPypers at python.org
> > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Thanks,
> > > Diptanu Choudhury
> > > Just a Coder, ThoughtWorks India
> > > Mobile - 09886760964
> > > Web - www.linkedin.com/in/diptanu
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > BangPypers mailing list
> > > BangPypers at python.org
> > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > BangPypers mailing list
> > BangPypers at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
> >
>
>
>
> --
> --------------------------------------------------------
> blog: http://blog.dhananjaynene.com
> twitter: http://twitter.com/dnene
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Sun May  2 00:53:37 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 04:23:37 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] if we compare Rails and django
In-Reply-To: <r2scae1cffe1005011338ma86c259bo481cd062af09b796@mail.gmail.com>
References: <t2u99f221551004302204j97cb5253va741a1e18e814f0e@mail.gmail.com>
	<u2nbf97ab891005011329qed6c2478wb5d3cb8e415c206b@mail.gmail.com>
	<r2scae1cffe1005011338ma86c259bo481cd062af09b796@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201005020423.37278.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Sunday 02 May 2010 2:08:50 am Jeffrey Jose wrote:
> I second suggestion of jQuery. I've had fantastic results with jQuery so I
> can totally recommend that. Also I remember reading about django and jQuery
> integration a while back - althou' I never really tried that myself.

django has a policy of being agnostic towards third party js toolkits. It 
gives the hooks, but the choice of toolkit is left to the user. However, for 
the admin, there seems to be a move to use jquery. But the admin is not part 
of the django core - it is a contributed app. Of course JQuery rocks - 
especially for people who do not know or want to know javascript.

> 
> If you happen to choose django (and jQuery without any second thoughts for
> client side work) I'm just saying (from what I've read online) they get
> along pretty well.
> 

all js toolkits get on equally well with django 

-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Associate
NRC-FOSS
http://certificate.nrcfoss.au-kbc.org.in

From sriramnrn at gmail.com  Sun May  2 06:48:11 2010
From: sriramnrn at gmail.com (Sriram Narayanan)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 10:18:11 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] About Thoughtworks as a venue
Message-ID: <m2t49977f271005012148xb559aa58mab9f42f774e047fc@mail.gmail.com>

Folks:

I've been meaning to send this mail for a while.

A number of teams at Thoughtworks were recently caught off-guard when
there was a last minute office wide maintenance (pest control)
scheduled at both our offices. This caused a venue problem for a
number of user groups.

Otherwise, the Thoughtworks offices are usually available gor user
group meetings on weekend (and some weekdays too).

I've been relatively busy with lots of things happening within
Thoughtworks, as well as with researching some new technologies that
we're about to roll out.

I don't check my personal mail very often.

Diptanu on this mailing list too is a Thoughtworker, and in case I
don't respond on time about venue availability, he will.

In case you don't get a timely response from either of us, please
simply call me on my cell. Noufal, Svaksha and some others on this
list know how to reach me.

-- Ram

-- 
Sent from my mobile device

Belenix: www.belenix.org

From noufal at gmail.com  Sun May  2 07:23:10 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 10:53:10 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] About Thoughtworks as a venue
In-Reply-To: <m2t49977f271005012148xb559aa58mab9f42f774e047fc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <m2t49977f271005012148xb559aa58mab9f42f774e047fc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <r2w9963e56e1005012223j64a3d755r3d5371ddd454ccc2@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks man. :-)

On 5/2/10, Sriram Narayanan <sriramnrn at gmail.com> wrote:
> Folks:
>
> I've been meaning to send this mail for a while.
>
> A number of teams at Thoughtworks were recently caught off-guard when
> there was a last minute office wide maintenance (pest control)
> scheduled at both our offices. This caused a venue problem for a
> number of user groups.
>
> Otherwise, the Thoughtworks offices are usually available gor user
> group meetings on weekend (and some weekdays too).
>
> I've been relatively busy with lots of things happening within
> Thoughtworks, as well as with researching some new technologies that
> we're about to roll out.
>
> I don't check my personal mail very often.
>
> Diptanu on this mailing list too is a Thoughtworker, and in case I
> don't respond on time about venue availability, he will.
>
> In case you don't get a timely response from either of us, please
> simply call me on my cell. Noufal, Svaksha and some others on this
> list know how to reach me.
>
> -- Ram
>
> --
> Sent from my mobile device
>
> Belenix: www.belenix.org
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>


-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From mbaiju at zeomega.com  Sun May  2 08:15:08 2010
From: mbaiju at zeomega.com (Baiju M)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 11:45:08 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Bluebream
In-Reply-To: <x2t9963e56e1005011138mac40a9a2oc596b4c41bac8f99@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20100501183514.GA16017@remy>
	<x2t9963e56e1005011138mac40a9a2oc596b4c41bac8f99@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <x2oc911c70d1005012315vc1d3ffc8u26245befcb99050a@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Senthil,

As Noufal said, BlueBream is just a name chage of "Zope 3". Along with
this name change, we are trying to adopt many innovations happened in
Python web community and Python in general. For example, the
"bluebream" distribution package consists a PasteScript based project
template. The PasteScript based project template is used in frameworks
like Pylons as a getting started story. Another major thing adopted
from wider Python commuity is WSGI. Even though we are adopting many
things from other projects, we are still embracing our core
technologies like:

- ZODB (Object database http://zodb.org )
- ZCA (Zope Component Architecture http://muthukadan.net/docs/zca.html )
- Object publishing through through traversal (Alternate way for URL mapping)
- ZCML (XML based configuration language)

If anyone interested to contribute to this project, please get in touch with me.

Regards,
Baiju M
P.S: Sorry for top post, my S40 mobile is too limited to do inline post :(


On 5/2/10, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 12:05 AM, Senthil Kumaran <orsenthil at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> On Sat, May 01, 2010 at 11:55:54PM +0530, Baiju M wrote:
>>> FYI, Zope 3 is renamed to BlueBream : http://bluebream.zope.org
>>
>> Hi Baiju,
>>
>> I thought Bluebream was a new web framework. I was looking around the
>> site and at ohloh site and at ohloh when I looked the lines of code,
>> it was in small, so I thought it was a new framework based on zope.
>>
>> Would you like to share more about bluebream? Is it just a namechange?
>
> Baiju mentioned this during on the user group meetings a month or two
> ago. Here's the reddit thread.
>
> http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/arjgo/bluebream_is_the_new_name_for_zope_3/
>
> As far as I can tell, it's just a namechange.
>
> --
> ~noufal
> http://nibrahim.net.in
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From orsenthil at gmail.com  Sun May  2 08:41:53 2010
From: orsenthil at gmail.com (Senthil Kumaran)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 12:11:53 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Bluebream
In-Reply-To: <x2oc911c70d1005012315vc1d3ffc8u26245befcb99050a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20100501183514.GA16017@remy>
	<x2t9963e56e1005011138mac40a9a2oc596b4c41bac8f99@mail.gmail.com>
	<x2oc911c70d1005012315vc1d3ffc8u26245befcb99050a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <u2x7c42eba11005012341z2df3ba5dt6cb55d9b0fbeb499@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Baiju M <mbaiju at zeomega.com> wrote:
> Hi Senthil,
>
> As Noufal said, BlueBream is just a name chage of "Zope 3". Along with
> this name change, we are trying to adopt many innovations happened in
> Python web community and Python in general. For example, the


And how do these go well with Python 3? Are they based still on Python
2.5(??), Baiju?
I think, if major frameworks move to Python 3, it might be a win-win situation.

Interesting news is, In two months from now, Python 2.7 will be final
release and py3k branch would become trunk by default and all
development of Python will be on Python 3 only.

-- 
Senthil




-- 
Senthil

From jayakumargenius at gmail.com  Sun May  2 11:23:53 2010
From: jayakumargenius at gmail.com (jaya kumar)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 14:53:53 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] hi can any one tell python job for freshers in
	bangalore ?
Message-ID: <j2h927ff73d1005020223u7e2bfb4azc0684fb7529d2a7f@mail.gmail.com>

greetings from kumar

 i finished my mca 2009 passed out

am looking for python jobs for freshers in bangalore

if any available means please let me know

if i would get a job surely i will move or relocate to bangalore

please help am still unemployed from 2009 even my classmates few only
placed  others still (including me not placed in any company ) due to
recession


in my class i decide to not to struck with microsoft windows

 so i choose my carrer path into open source

now myself am learning python and php

i dont know the growth in this field

please i request you to suggest me to set good carrer path to me ?

thanking  u friends

bye take care

regards kumar

thank u

From venkat83 at gmail.com  Sun May  2 18:31:03 2010
From: venkat83 at gmail.com (Venkatraman S)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 22:01:03 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [OT] Launch Mapatree
Message-ID: <i2xa3b05e8b1005020931zb0c7542el8fa456d7aeedb47a@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

It gives me immense pleasure in launching Mapatree.
This is an intiative that I have been planning for quite sometime and
finally got some time to implement and also launch it :)

Please check and contribute : http://www.mapatree.org/

The site is still under development and the UI is something that needs to be
slicked up. Do report if you find any bugs or would like some enhancements.
It would be great if you can also test the site from you mobile phones and
let me know your feedback.

Regards,
Venkat

From abpillai at gmail.com  Mon May  3 06:01:12 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 09:31:12 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] hi can any one tell python job for freshers in
	bangalore ?
In-Reply-To: <j2h927ff73d1005020223u7e2bfb4azc0684fb7529d2a7f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <j2h927ff73d1005020223u7e2bfb4azc0684fb7529d2a7f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <p2v8548c5f31005022101r3db76e31y1216b1770db16540@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 2:53 PM, jaya kumar <jayakumargenius at gmail.com>wrote:

> greetings from kumar
>
>  i finished my mca 2009 passed out
>
> am looking for python jobs for freshers in bangalore
>
> if any available means please let me know
>
> if i would get a job surely i will move or relocate to bangalore
>
> please help am still unemployed from 2009 even my classmates few only
> placed  others still (including me not placed in any company ) due to
> recession
>
>
> in my class i decide to not to struck with microsoft windows
>
>  so i choose my carrer path into open source
>
> now myself am learning python and php
>
> i dont know the growth in this field
>
> please i request you to suggest me to set good carrer path to me ?
>
> thanking  u friends
>
> bye take care
>
> regards kumar
>
> thank u
>

You have asked similar questions in this list earlier and others
have responded. Not sure what is the point in repeating the
same questions like a robot. Please don't start threads which
ask a bunch of questions without any apparent aim. People
tend to ignore such questions after a while.


> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



-- 
--Anand

From ramdaz at gmail.com  Mon May  3 06:35:03 2010
From: ramdaz at gmail.com (Ramdas S)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 10:05:03 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] hi can any one tell python job for freshers in
	bangalore ?
In-Reply-To: <p2v8548c5f31005022101r3db76e31y1216b1770db16540@mail.gmail.com>
References: <j2h927ff73d1005020223u7e2bfb4azc0684fb7529d2a7f@mail.gmail.com>
	<p2v8548c5f31005022101r3db76e31y1216b1770db16540@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <u2x6e38f9f01005022135w666b9482nab9792c46a46466a@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Anand Balachandran Pillai <
abpillai at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 2:53 PM, jaya kumar <jayakumargenius at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > greetings from kumar
> >
> >  i finished my mca 2009 passed out
> >
> > am looking for python jobs for freshers in bangalore
> >
> > if any available means please let me know
> >
> > if i would get a job surely i will move or relocate to bangalore
> >
> > please help am still unemployed from 2009 even my classmates few only
> > placed  others still (including me not placed in any company ) due to
> > recession
> >
> >
> > in my class i decide to not to struck with microsoft windows
> >
> >  so i choose my carrer path into open source
> >
> > now myself am learning python and php
> >
> > i dont know the growth in this field
> >
> > please i request you to suggest me to set good carrer path to me ?
> >
> > thanking  u friends
> >
> > bye take care
> >
> > regards kumar
> >
> > thank u
> >
>
> You have asked similar questions in this list earlier and others
> have responded. Not sure what is the point in repeating the
> same questions like a robot. Please don't start threads which
> ask a bunch of questions without any apparent aim. People
> tend to ignore such questions after a while.
>


http://wiki.python.org/moin/BangPypers/PythonCompaniesInIndia

Find them and talk to them. If they can't help you, no one in the group can
....

>
> > _______________________________________________
> > BangPypers mailing list
> > BangPypers at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
> >
>
>
>
> --
> --Anand
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



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+91 9342 583 065

From kausikram at gmail.com  Mon May  3 11:56:38 2010
From: kausikram at gmail.com (kausikram krishnasayee)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 15:26:38 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [OT] Venue for PyCon India 2010
In-Reply-To: <m2w9963e56e1004270349p686f94b0u4a26600e1c2f9d3a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <m2w9963e56e1004270349p686f94b0u4a26600e1c2f9d3a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <r2l2597ddb91005030256j704f060bhc348d5f05a23efa8@mail.gmail.com>

>
>   Ideally, we're looking to hold this years conference also in an academic
> institution that's easily accessible someone inside Bangalore.
>
>   I presume that there are many students studying in Bangalore on this
> list. If you feel that your college can host an event like this
> (3 or 4 halls of around 100-200 capacity each, a couple of smaller rooms
> and perhaps an open area for lunch), please reply to this
> thread.
>

Would really appreciate if the students in this list came forward. the
organizers of inpycon would seriously appreciate some help in this front.
 Leads, and suggestions would be great. the volunteers from the inpycon team
would be ready to do all the grunt work required if they were given a proper
lead on whom to contact.

  Other suggestions are welcome too.
>
>   Please join the inpycon list
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon if you want to be part of
> (and who wouldn't want to? ;)) the next all India conference of all things
> Pythonic!
>

-- 
Kausikram Krishnasayee
Company: http://silverstripesoftware.com | Webpage: kausikram.net | Blog:
blog.kausikram.net | Twitter: http://twitter.com/kausikram | Email:
kausikram at gmail.com | Mobile: +91 9884246490

From noufal at gmail.com  Tue May  4 05:35:14 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 09:05:14 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [OT] Venue for PyCon India 2010
In-Reply-To: <r2l2597ddb91005030256j704f060bhc348d5f05a23efa8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <m2w9963e56e1004270349p686f94b0u4a26600e1c2f9d3a@mail.gmail.com>
	<r2l2597ddb91005030256j704f060bhc348d5f05a23efa8@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 3:26 PM, kausikram krishnasayee
<kausikram at gmail.com> wrote:
[..]
> Would really appreciate if the students in this list came forward. the
> organizers of inpycon would seriously appreciate some help in this front.
> ?Leads, and suggestions would be great. the volunteers from the inpycon team
> would be ready to do all the grunt work required if they were given a proper
> lead on whom to contact.[..]

Come on guys. I'm sure there are lots of students on this list. This
is a great chance to get connected to the Python/software communities
in Bangalore which will help you technically as well as with your job
prospects when you complete your studies.

-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From hiddenharmony at gmail.com  Tue May  4 05:44:44 2010
From: hiddenharmony at gmail.com (Vivek Khurana)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 09:14:44 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [OT] Venue for PyCon India 2010
In-Reply-To: <r2l2597ddb91005030256j704f060bhc348d5f05a23efa8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <m2w9963e56e1004270349p686f94b0u4a26600e1c2f9d3a@mail.gmail.com>
	<r2l2597ddb91005030256j704f060bhc348d5f05a23efa8@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 3:26 PM, kausikram krishnasayee
<kausikram at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> ? Ideally, we're looking to hold this years conference also in an academic
>> institution that's easily accessible someone inside Bangalore.
>>
>> ? I presume that there are many students studying in Bangalore on this
>> list. If you feel that your college can host an event like this
>> (3 or 4 halls of around 100-200 capacity each, a couple of smaller rooms
>> and perhaps an open area for lunch), please reply to this
>> thread.

 Based on my experience on organizing conferences in colloeges, you
should never rely on students. Best way is to contact the HOD of some
department or even better have some contact in top management. Then
things move really fast. Else, if you go the students way, you will
end up with loads of problems/ego hassles/issues with the faculty.
 Paying for a facility and using it, is a better option as it gives
you lots of freedom.

regards
Vivek

-- 
The hidden harmony is better than the obvious!!

From noufal at gmail.com  Tue May  4 05:48:39 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 09:18:39 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [OT] Venue for PyCon India 2010
In-Reply-To: <n2y91bea30d1005032044t9c3bfb02nfd7d60fc7175d08b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <m2w9963e56e1004270349p686f94b0u4a26600e1c2f9d3a@mail.gmail.com>
	<r2l2597ddb91005030256j704f060bhc348d5f05a23efa8@mail.gmail.com>
	<n2y91bea30d1005032044t9c3bfb02nfd7d60fc7175d08b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <h2y9963e56e1005032048nd922ff45hbf7949afe1cc28f6@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Vivek Khurana <hiddenharmony at gmail.com> wrote:
[..]
> ?Based on my experience on organizing conferences in colloeges, you
> should never rely on students. Best way is to contact the HOD of some
> department or even better have some contact in top management. Then
> things move really fast. Else, if you go the students way, you will
> end up with loads of problems/ego hassles/issues with the faculty.
> ?Paying for a facility and using it, is a better option as it gives
> you lots of freedom.
[..]

We need names and locations of colleges. That's what this thread is
soliciting. The work once we get those is a separate issue.

Once we have those, we can make phone calls or contact top management.




-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From vikas.bn at gmail.com  Tue May  4 06:23:48 2010
From: vikas.bn at gmail.com (Vikas BN)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 09:53:48 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [OT] Venue for PyCon India 2010
In-Reply-To: <h2y9963e56e1005032048nd922ff45hbf7949afe1cc28f6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <m2w9963e56e1004270349p686f94b0u4a26600e1c2f9d3a@mail.gmail.com>
	<r2l2597ddb91005030256j704f060bhc348d5f05a23efa8@mail.gmail.com>
	<n2y91bea30d1005032044t9c3bfb02nfd7d60fc7175d08b@mail.gmail.com>
	<h2y9963e56e1005032048nd922ff45hbf7949afe1cc28f6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <l2kfcaed0611005032123tf19820afm5d7227106f46c4ac@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Vivek Khurana <hiddenharmony at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> [..]
> >  Based on my experience on organizing conferences in colloeges, you
> > should never rely on students. Best way is to contact the HOD of some
> > department or even better have some contact in top management. Then
> > things move really fast. Else, if you go the students way, you will
> > end up with loads of problems/ego hassles/issues with the faculty.
> >  Paying for a facility and using it, is a better option as it gives
> > you lots of freedom.
> [..]
>
> We need names and locations of colleges. That's what this thread is
> soliciting. The work once we get those is a separate issue.
>
> Once we have those, we can make phone calls or contact top management.
>

          Just to let you know guys, I'll be contacting the following
colleges:
          MSRIT (New BEL Road, behind IISc)
          BIT (KR Road, near city market)
          BMSCE (Bull temple road, basavanagudi)

         BMS has an audi with a capacity of around 250, and apparently MSR's
audi
         is bigger. I know professors in all three colleges so please let me
know
         which location works for most people so that I can prioritize
talking with them.

         Getting an audi and 3-4 classrooms shouldn't be difficult and we
may get it for
         free if we include the college name like so: InPyCon in association
with BMSCE.
         But anyway, these are details that can be worked out later.

-Vikas

From noufal at gmail.com  Tue May  4 06:27:37 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 09:57:37 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [OT] Venue for PyCon India 2010
In-Reply-To: <l2kfcaed0611005032123tf19820afm5d7227106f46c4ac@mail.gmail.com>
References: <m2w9963e56e1004270349p686f94b0u4a26600e1c2f9d3a@mail.gmail.com>
	<r2l2597ddb91005030256j704f060bhc348d5f05a23efa8@mail.gmail.com>
	<n2y91bea30d1005032044t9c3bfb02nfd7d60fc7175d08b@mail.gmail.com>
	<h2y9963e56e1005032048nd922ff45hbf7949afe1cc28f6@mail.gmail.com>
	<l2kfcaed0611005032123tf19820afm5d7227106f46c4ac@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <s2z9963e56e1005032127k5bb13034t8a2ba98cfb59b269@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Vikas BN <vikas.bn at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Vivek Khurana <hiddenharmony at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> [..]
>> > ?Based on my experience on organizing conferences in colloeges, you
>> > should never rely on students. Best way is to contact the HOD of some
>> > department or even better have some contact in top management. Then
>> > things move really fast. Else, if you go the students way, you will
>> > end up with loads of problems/ego hassles/issues with the faculty.
>> > ?Paying for a facility and using it, is a better option as it gives
>> > you lots of freedom.
>> [..]
>>
>> We need names and locations of colleges. That's what this thread is
>> soliciting. The work once we get those is a separate issue.
>>
>> Once we have those, we can make phone calls or contact top management.
>>
>
> ? ? ? ? ?Just to let you know guys, I'll be contacting the following
> colleges:
> ? ? ? ? ?MSRIT (New BEL Road, behind IISc)
> ? ? ? ? ?BIT (KR Road, near city market)
> ? ? ? ? ?BMSCE (Bull temple road, basavanagudi)
>
> ? ? ? ? BMS has an audi with a capacity of around 250, and apparently MSR's
> audi
> ? ? ? ? is bigger. I know professors in all three colleges so please let me
> know
> ? ? ? ? which location works for most people so that I can prioritize
> talking with them.
>
> ? ? ? ? Getting an audi and 3-4 classrooms shouldn't be difficult and we
> may get it for
> ? ? ? ? free if we include the college name like so: InPyCon in association
> with BMSCE.
> ? ? ? ? But anyway, these are details that can be worked out later.
>[..]

Thanks Vikas. All three sound okay (location wise). When you get some
information, please send a mail to the inpycon list. This thread is
really OT here. :)



-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From aditya.gnu at gmail.com  Tue May  4 15:37:41 2010
From: aditya.gnu at gmail.com (Aditya C.S)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 19:07:41 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] pycon
Message-ID: <w2j926729071005040637m6fdba731s5b8bc3d80901d8b0@mail.gmail.com>

As msrit is inside city,it will be very good venue.I have already told a guy
in msrit to talk in his collge.Hope he does it

From kkvaibhav at gmail.com  Tue May  4 15:39:44 2010
From: kkvaibhav at gmail.com (VAIBHAV KATIYAR)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 19:09:44 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Please help me get the CD ROM of "PYTHON PROGRAMMING
	FOR ABSOLUTE BEGINNERS "
Message-ID: <n2n41d2e86a1005040639gff632c0cr5c7e05b8740e625b@mail.gmail.com>

Dear All,
              I an a non programmer and just started to learn PYTHON
language.
I downloaded a textbook called "PYTHON PROGRAMMING FOR ABSOLUTE BEGINNERS "
By MICHAEL DAWSON from the internet.
But that does not contain the CD content which comes with the hard copy.
I checked at the book stalls in Bangalore and came to know that an Indian
edition of this book is not yet released.

Can anybody please help me to get the content of the CD ROM that accompanies
this book.
I will be very grateful to you.

Thank you

Kind regards
Vaibhav KK

From dhananjay.nene at gmail.com  Tue May  4 19:11:07 2010
From: dhananjay.nene at gmail.com (Dhananjay Nene)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 22:41:07 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Please help me get the CD ROM of "PYTHON
	PROGRAMMING FOR ABSOLUTE BEGINNERS "
In-Reply-To: <n2n41d2e86a1005040639gff632c0cr5c7e05b8740e625b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <n2n41d2e86a1005040639gff632c0cr5c7e05b8740e625b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <m2xbf97ab891005041011kd3a611aah3b766f4cc7dfe826@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 7:09 PM, VAIBHAV KATIYAR <kkvaibhav at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear All,
>              I an a non programmer and just started to learn PYTHON
> language.
> I downloaded a textbook called "PYTHON PROGRAMMING FOR ABSOLUTE BEGINNERS "
> By MICHAEL DAWSON from the internet.
> But that does not contain the CD content which comes with the hard copy.
> I checked at the book stalls in Bangalore and came to know that an Indian
> edition of this book is not yet released.
>
> Can anybody please help me to get the content of the CD ROM that
> accompanies
> this book.
> I will be very grateful to you.
>

I am not sure what the CD contains, but usually they often contain sources
to the code samples in the book and a whole bunch of other open source or
other freeware / trialware which you can often download directly from the
publisher.

You may want to check http://my.safaribooksonline.com/1592000738 for the
sources to the code samples. That should hopefully get you started.

Dhananjay

>
> Thank you
>
> Kind regards
> Vaibhav KK
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



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From noufal at gmail.com  Tue May  4 19:15:39 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 22:45:39 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Please help me get the CD ROM of "PYTHON
	PROGRAMMING FOR ABSOLUTE BEGINNERS "
In-Reply-To: <n2n41d2e86a1005040639gff632c0cr5c7e05b8740e625b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <n2n41d2e86a1005040639gff632c0cr5c7e05b8740e625b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <n2r9963e56e1005041015jd07e3d79o6db8ab3f145fd832@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 7:09 PM, VAIBHAV KATIYAR <kkvaibhav at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear All,
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ?I an a non programmer and just started to learn PYTHON
> language.
> I downloaded a textbook called "PYTHON PROGRAMMING FOR ABSOLUTE BEGINNERS "
> By MICHAEL DAWSON from the internet.
> But that does not contain the CD content which comes with the hard copy.
> I checked at the book stalls in Bangalore and came to know that an Indian
> edition of this book is not yet released.

If this is a 'pirated' copy, I don't think your email will be well
received. Why not try some of the other free excellent books on Python
available online?

http://diveintopython.org/ - Dive into Python
http://www.swaroopch.com/notes/Python - A byte of Python
http://docs.python.org/tutorial/index.html - Official tutorial

With these books, the source code of the programs will be available too.




-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From dhananjay.nene at gmail.com  Tue May  4 19:21:36 2010
From: dhananjay.nene at gmail.com (Dhananjay Nene)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 22:51:36 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Please help me get the CD ROM of "PYTHON
	PROGRAMMING FOR ABSOLUTE BEGINNERS "
In-Reply-To: <n2r9963e56e1005041015jd07e3d79o6db8ab3f145fd832@mail.gmail.com>
References: <n2n41d2e86a1005040639gff632c0cr5c7e05b8740e625b@mail.gmail.com>
	<n2r9963e56e1005041015jd07e3d79o6db8ab3f145fd832@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <v2xbf97ab891005041021q50df617cr3cfa481545c0c349@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 7:09 PM, VAIBHAV KATIYAR <kkvaibhav at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Dear All,
> >              I an a non programmer and just started to learn PYTHON
> > language.
> > I downloaded a textbook called "PYTHON PROGRAMMING FOR ABSOLUTE BEGINNERS
> "
> > By MICHAEL DAWSON from the internet.
> > But that does not contain the CD content which comes with the hard copy.
> > I checked at the book stalls in Bangalore and came to know that an Indian
> > edition of this book is not yet released.
>
> If this is a 'pirated' copy, I don't think your email will be well
> received. Why not try some of the other free excellent books on Python
> available online?
>
> http://diveintopython.org/ - Dive into Python
> http://www.swaroopch.com/notes/Python - A byte of Python
> http://docs.python.org/tutorial/index.html - Official tutorial
>
>
Another nice book I can recommend is Hello World,
http://www.manning.com/sande/

I purchased it for my daughter and she found it quite useful. While it is
for absolute beginners it is also primarily targeted to a much younger
audience.

Dhananjay

> With these books, the source code of the programs will be available too.
>
>
>
>
> --
> ~noufal
> http://nibrahim.net.in
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



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From admin.nitjece at gmail.com  Tue May  4 20:09:08 2010
From: admin.nitjece at gmail.com (Diptanu Choudhury)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 23:39:08 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] About Thoughtworks as a venue
In-Reply-To: <r2w9963e56e1005012223j64a3d755r3d5371ddd454ccc2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <m2t49977f271005012148xb559aa58mab9f42f774e047fc@mail.gmail.com>
	<r2w9963e56e1005012223j64a3d755r3d5371ddd454ccc2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <y2taedece081005041109t95e197a3l96957b2eb4025777@mail.gmail.com>

I will be glad to help:-)

On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks man. :-)
>
> On 5/2/10, Sriram Narayanan <sriramnrn at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Folks:
> >
> > I've been meaning to send this mail for a while.
> >
> > A number of teams at Thoughtworks were recently caught off-guard when
> > there was a last minute office wide maintenance (pest control)
> > scheduled at both our offices. This caused a venue problem for a
> > number of user groups.
> >
> > Otherwise, the Thoughtworks offices are usually available gor user
> > group meetings on weekend (and some weekdays too).
> >
> > I've been relatively busy with lots of things happening within
> > Thoughtworks, as well as with researching some new technologies that
> > we're about to roll out.
> >
> > I don't check my personal mail very often.
> >
> > Diptanu on this mailing list too is a Thoughtworker, and in case I
> > don't respond on time about venue availability, he will.
> >
> > In case you don't get a timely response from either of us, please
> > simply call me on my cell. Noufal, Svaksha and some others on this
> > list know how to reach me.
> >
> > -- Ram
> >
> > --
> > Sent from my mobile device
> >
> > Belenix: www.belenix.org
> > _______________________________________________
> > BangPypers mailing list
> > BangPypers at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
> >
>
>
> --
> ~noufal
> http://nibrahim.net.in
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



-- 
Thanks,
Diptanu Choudhury
Just a Coder, ThoughtWorks India
Mobile - 09886760964
Web - www.linkedin.com/in/diptanu

From nishant at careerride.com  Wed May  5 05:49:29 2010
From: nishant at careerride.com (nishant)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 09:19:29 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Opportunity in Python!
In-Reply-To: <98b2b2cd647330c61a0af464820d4911@profile.rediff.com>
Message-ID: <000001caec05$f94523d0$0201a8c0@nishant>

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From ideamonk at gmail.com  Wed May  5 14:28:29 2010
From: ideamonk at gmail.com (Abhishek Mishra)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 17:58:29 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Cheap hosting
In-Reply-To: <j2p7c73a13a1004231238s38401098ob153881d41ebe449@mail.gmail.com>
References: <i2qa3b05e8b1004132332ubd90ababy4b59cc6b1be6ee92@mail.gmail.com>
	<r2z7c73a13a1004222100m903ad8dek319f70ddd10e5902@mail.gmail.com>
	<20100423051238.GA2239@remy>
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Message-ID: <l2p64160c71005050528md7b50bebgd3d8516b9d918d0@mail.gmail.com>

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So far the only issue if that I haven't seen an uptime more than 23 days.

On the cheaper end while exploring I had found that many of cheap vps
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regards,

Abhishek

From venkat83 at gmail.com  Wed May  5 16:48:16 2010
From: venkat83 at gmail.com (Venkatraman S)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 20:18:16 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Cheap hosting
In-Reply-To: <l2p64160c71005050528md7b50bebgd3d8516b9d918d0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <i2qa3b05e8b1004132332ubd90ababy4b59cc6b1be6ee92@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <i2pa3b05e8b1005050748u204ec03ao9e433435c2f6ff49@mail.gmail.com>

Just to answer my Q :  If you are developing a new app from scratch (and in
python/django), without much dependancy on  libraries, then i would
recommend Google App Engine. I am using them for
http://www.mapatree.org/and its a wonderful experience so far.
I just spent 400INR on getting the domain; thats it.

The hierarchy of hosting goes like : VPS > Paas(like GAE) > Amazon EC2.

-V-
http://twitter.com/venkasub

From ideamonk at gmail.com  Wed May  5 16:57:46 2010
From: ideamonk at gmail.com (Abhishek Mishra)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 20:27:46 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Cheap hosting
In-Reply-To: <i2pa3b05e8b1005050748u204ec03ao9e433435c2f6ff49@mail.gmail.com>
References: <i2qa3b05e8b1004132332ubd90ababy4b59cc6b1be6ee92@mail.gmail.com>
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	<20100423051238.GA2239@remy>
	<j2p7c73a13a1004231238s38401098ob153881d41ebe449@mail.gmail.com>
	<l2p64160c71005050528md7b50bebgd3d8516b9d918d0@mail.gmail.com>
	<i2pa3b05e8b1005050748u204ec03ao9e433435c2f6ff49@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <z2g64160c71005050757v5114537duce3e6e71ebc2b7a8@mail.gmail.com>

Oh I too do that :D How did it slip my mind http://lenny.in has been doing
fine for a month for me without much stress on limited resources it gives
for free.
I hope google becomes more liberal about domain attachments soon and we
would be able to attach a .in to our apps :)

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Venkatraman S <venkat83 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Just to answer my Q :  If you are developing a new app from scratch (and in
> python/django), without much dependancy on  libraries, then i would
> recommend Google App Engine. I am using them for
> http://www.mapatree.org/and its a wonderful experience so far.
> I just spent 400INR on getting the domain; thats it.
>
> The hierarchy of hosting goes like : VPS > Paas(like GAE) > Amazon EC2.
>
> -V-
> http://twitter.com/venkasub
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>

From keith.chap at hotmail.com  Fri May  7 13:02:57 2010
From: keith.chap at hotmail.com (Keith Chapman)
Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 17:02:57 +0600
Subject: [BangPypers] XML manipulation using ElementTree
Message-ID: <BLU141-W32724EBBBF01891953A60E80F60@phx.gbl>


Hi,
    I have two javascript functions. It has been written to retrieve information from the incoming XML message and return a new XML. My javascript functions are working perfectly fine. What I need to do is to write the same logic in python. Therefore I have used ElementTree to do my work. But it's giving errors. I am very new to Python programming language and I'm finding it difficult to understand some stuff related to Python. If someone can point me what's I'm doing wrong, I would be greateful? 
    


// javascript functions
function transformRequest(mc) {
     var symbol = mc.getPayloadXML()..*::Code.toString();
     mc.setPayloadXML(
        <m:getQuote xmlns:m="http://services.samples/xsd">
           <m:request>
              <m:symbol>{symbol}</m:symbol>
           </m:request>
        </m:getQuote>);
  }

  function transformResponse(mc) {
     var symbol = mc.getPayloadXML()..*::symbol.toString();
     var price = mc.getPayloadXML()..*::last.toString();
     mc.setPayloadXML(
        <m:CheckPriceResponse xmlns:m="http://www.apache-synapse.org/test">
   <m:Code>{symbol}</m:Code>
   <m:Price>{price}</m:Price>
        </m:CheckPriceResponse>);
  }

# Python functions
from elementtree.ElementTree as ET import Element, SubElement, QName

def transformRequest(mc):
    tree = ET.parse(mc)
    symbol = tree.findtext("CheckPriceRequest/Code")
    tree.findtext("head/title")

    request = Element(mc)
    request.set(
        "<m:getQuote xmlns:m="http://services.samples/xsd">
           <m:request>
              <m:symbol>" + symbol + "</m:symbol>
           </m:request>
        </m:getQuote>"
        )
    return request

def transformResponse(mc):
    tree = ET.parse(mc)
    symbol = tree.findtext("CheckPriceResponse/symbol")
    price = tree.findtext("CheckPriceResponse/last")
    tree.findtext("head/title")

    response = Element(mc)
    response.set(
        "<m:CheckPriceResponse xmlns:m="http://www.apache-synapse.org/test">
         <m:Code>" + symbol + "</m:Code>
         <m:Price>" + price + "</m:Price>
         </m:CheckPriceResponse>"
        )
    return response


Thanks
 		 	   		  
_________________________________________________________________
Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service.
https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969

From vikas.bn at gmail.com  Fri May  7 14:03:22 2010
From: vikas.bn at gmail.com (Vikas BN)
Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 17:33:22 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] XML manipulation using ElementTree
In-Reply-To: <BLU141-W32724EBBBF01891953A60E80F60@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU141-W32724EBBBF01891953A60E80F60@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <k2pfcaed0611005070503re2b8cec5qd0c37d4e94503eed@mail.gmail.com>

Can you paste the traceback of the error you are getting?

On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Keith Chapman <keith.chap at hotmail.com>wrote:

>    request.set(
>        "<m:getQuote xmlns:m="http://services.samples/xsd">
>           <m:request>
>              <m:symbol>" + symbol + "</m:symbol>
>           </m:request>
>        </m:getQuote>"
>        )
>    return request
>

  Aside, you might want to use """ (triple quotes) for multi-line strings,
like so:
 """<m:getQuote xmlns:m="http://services.samples/xsd">""" (so that the
double
  quotes within the string is kept intact.)

-Vikas

From jayakumargenius at gmail.com  Fri May  7 19:38:30 2010
From: jayakumargenius at gmail.com (jaya kumar)
Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 10:38:30 -0700
Subject: [BangPypers] i need to learn lamp stack ?
Message-ID: <s2l927ff73d1005071038za451cb2boad56a248823eb37e@mail.gmail.com>

hi to all

i need to learn the lamp stack ?

can any one tell what is lamp stack ? what it will be useful for ?

how many days it will take to learn and is there any job opportunites for
this programme ?

where is the code available for web applications using lamp stack ?

is there any one conducting seminar about lamp stack ?


i hope i will get reply

thank u

From guruprevails at gmail.com  Fri May  7 19:41:11 2010
From: guruprevails at gmail.com (Dattatreya Sharma)
Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 23:11:11 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Looking for guest faculties in Python to take work
	shop for 16 hours over weekends
In-Reply-To: <n2h9f7989441005071038ld6466ed5zeb688dcb104ab6d5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <n2h9f7989441005071038ld6466ed5zeb688dcb104ab6d5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <z2o9f7989441005071041k126a04ddh69d289a99f96a8b4@mail.gmail.com>

> Dear Python Programmers,
>
> GuRu Prevails is India's only organizations that is into *private *training
> in Machine Learning.
>
> We are looking for guest faculties who would be interested in taking a work
> shop on Python for 16 hours starting this Sunday 9th May 2010 over
> week-ends.
> Interested candidates are requested to touch base with us immediately.
>
> To reach us please call 9972952810 and ask for Dattatreya
>
> --
>



-- 
Thanks,
Dattatreya P Sharma
Zombie ( Founder - GuRu Prevails.com)
+91 9972952810

From kunal.t2 at gmail.com  Fri May  7 19:53:54 2010
From: kunal.t2 at gmail.com (kunal ghosh)
Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 23:23:54 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Looking for guest faculties in Python to take work
	shop for 16 hours over weekends
In-Reply-To: <z2o9f7989441005071041k126a04ddh69d289a99f96a8b4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <n2h9f7989441005071038ld6466ed5zeb688dcb104ab6d5@mail.gmail.com>
	<z2o9f7989441005071041k126a04ddh69d289a99f96a8b4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <o2r6ee952ce1005071053z2081446bk7c12c09a892d7a40@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Dattatreya,

You had come over to Sir MVIT to create awareness about your Machine
Learning course. Can you please email the
dates and timings,  along with the venue for the entrace test.

regards.

On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 11:11 PM, Dattatreya Sharma
<guruprevails at gmail.com>wrote:

> > Dear Python Programmers,
> >
> > GuRu Prevails is India's only organizations that is into *private
> *training
> > in Machine Learning.
> >
> > We are looking for guest faculties who would be interested in taking a
> work
> > shop on Python for 16 hours starting this Sunday 9th May 2010 over
> > week-ends.
> > Interested candidates are requested to touch base with us immediately.
> >
> > To reach us please call 9972952810 and ask for Dattatreya
> >
> > --
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Dattatreya P Sharma
> Zombie ( Founder - GuRu Prevails.com)
> +91 9972952810
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



-- 
regards
-------
Kunal Ghosh
Dept of Computer Sc. & Engineering.
Sir MVIT
Bangalore,India

Quote:
"Ignorance is not a sin, the persistence of ignorance is"
--
"If you find a task difficult today, you'll find it difficult 10yrs later
too !"
-----
"Failing to Plan is Planning to Fail"

Blog:kunalghosh.wordpress.com
Website:www.kunalghosh.net46.net
V-card:http://tinyurl.com/86qjyk

From gora at srijan.in  Fri May  7 19:54:01 2010
From: gora at srijan.in (Gora Mohanty)
Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 23:24:01 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] i need to learn lamp stack ?
In-Reply-To: <s2l927ff73d1005071038za451cb2boad56a248823eb37e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <s2l927ff73d1005071038za451cb2boad56a248823eb37e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100507232401.3e6e5bb0@ibis>

On Fri, 7 May 2010 10:38:30 -0700
jaya kumar <jayakumargenius at gmail.com> wrote:

> hi to all
> 
> i need to learn the lamp stack ?
> 
> can any one tell what is lamp stack ? what it will be useful for ?
[...]

Yes. One rubs the lamp and a genie appears, which then magically
goes about fulfilling all one's frustrated ambitions.

Which is sort of what your random questions to an unrelated list
are attempting to do.

An oldie, but a goodie:
http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Alternatively: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=LAMP+stack

Regards,
Gora

From guruprevails at gmail.com  Fri May  7 19:59:57 2010
From: guruprevails at gmail.com (Dattatreya Sharma)
Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 23:29:57 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Looking for guest faculties in Python to take work
	shop for 16 hours over weekends
In-Reply-To: <o2r6ee952ce1005071053z2081446bk7c12c09a892d7a40@mail.gmail.com>
References: <n2h9f7989441005071038ld6466ed5zeb688dcb104ab6d5@mail.gmail.com>
	<z2o9f7989441005071041k126a04ddh69d289a99f96a8b4@mail.gmail.com>
	<o2r6ee952ce1005071053z2081446bk7c12c09a892d7a40@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <z2s9f7989441005071059w8266fa5awf14c6b82ea4a572@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Kunal,

Prof Dilip Sen is not well, he has asked us to get the date from Suma Swamy,
we understand she is on leave and will be back only on Tuesday.

Prof Dilip Sen has told us that Suma will help us get a date in his absence,
hopefully we will get the date on Tuesday, mean while
if you have her number let us know so that we can complete the test process
asap.

-Thanks
Dattatreya

On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 11:23 PM, kunal ghosh <kunal.t2 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Dattatreya,
>
> You had come over to Sir MVIT to create awareness about your Machine
> Learning course. Can you please email the
> dates and timings,  along with the venue for the entrace test.
>
> regards.
>
> On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 11:11 PM, Dattatreya Sharma
> <guruprevails at gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > > Dear Python Programmers,
> > >
> > > GuRu Prevails is India's only organizations that is into *private
> > *training
> > > in Machine Learning.
> > >
> > > We are looking for guest faculties who would be interested in taking a
> > work
> > > shop on Python for 16 hours starting this Sunday 9th May 2010 over
> > > week-ends.
> > > Interested candidates are requested to touch base with us immediately.
> > >
> > > To reach us please call 9972952810 and ask for Dattatreya
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanks,
> > Dattatreya P Sharma
> > Zombie ( Founder - GuRu Prevails.com)
> > +91 9972952810
> > _______________________________________________
> > BangPypers mailing list
> > BangPypers at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
> >
>
>
>
> --
> regards
> -------
> Kunal Ghosh
> Dept of Computer Sc. & Engineering.
> Sir MVIT
> Bangalore,India
>
> Quote:
> "Ignorance is not a sin, the persistence of ignorance is"
> --
> "If you find a task difficult today, you'll find it difficult 10yrs later
> too !"
> -----
> "Failing to Plan is Planning to Fail"
>
> Blog:kunalghosh.wordpress.com
> Website:www.kunalghosh.net46.net
> V-card:http://tinyurl.com/86qjyk
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



-- 
Thanks,
Dattatreya P Sharma
Zombie ( Founder - GuRu Prevails.com)
+91 9972952810

From stallomir at gmail.com  Fri May  7 20:53:52 2010
From: stallomir at gmail.com (Mandar Gokhale)
Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 14:53:52 -0400
Subject: [BangPypers] i need to learn lamp stack ?
In-Reply-To: <20100507232401.3e6e5bb0@ibis>
References: <s2l927ff73d1005071038za451cb2boad56a248823eb37e@mail.gmail.com> 
	<20100507232401.3e6e5bb0@ibis>
Message-ID: <p2lc3fb38581005071153r8ff95505le7f8bb62b2263fde@mail.gmail.com>

I'm pretty much a rookie developer, but even* I* can't believe this chap is
for real :D



On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 1:54 PM, Gora Mohanty <gora at srijan.in> wrote:

> On Fri, 7 May 2010 10:38:30 -0700
> jaya kumar <jayakumargenius at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > hi to all
> >
> > i need to learn the lamp stack ?
> >
> > can any one tell what is lamp stack ? what it will be useful for ?
> [...]
>
> Yes. One rubs the lamp and a genie appears, which then magically
> goes about fulfilling all one's frustrated ambitions.
>
> Which is sort of what your random questions to an unrelated list
> are attempting to do.
>
> An oldie, but a goodie:
> http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html<http://catb.org/%7Eesr/faqs/smart-questions.html>
>
> Alternatively: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=LAMP+stack
>
> Regards,
> Gora
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>

From venkat83 at gmail.com  Sat May  8 17:00:44 2010
From: venkat83 at gmail.com (Venkatraman S)
Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 20:30:44 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Looking for guest faculties in Python to take work
	shop for 16 hours over weekends
In-Reply-To: <z2s9f7989441005071059w8266fa5awf14c6b82ea4a572@mail.gmail.com>
References: <n2h9f7989441005071038ld6466ed5zeb688dcb104ab6d5@mail.gmail.com>
	<z2o9f7989441005071041k126a04ddh69d289a99f96a8b4@mail.gmail.com>
	<o2r6ee952ce1005071053z2081446bk7c12c09a892d7a40@mail.gmail.com>
	<z2s9f7989441005071059w8266fa5awf14c6b82ea4a572@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <r2ma3b05e8b1005080800p253cd05di83b92568166d0b5@mail.gmail.com>

Dont you think this can be done in private emails?
Probably, a training on sending emails in DLs can be offered initially.


On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 11:29 PM, Dattatreya Sharma
<guruprevails at gmail.com>wrote:

> Dear Kunal,
>
> Prof Dilip Sen is not well, he has asked us to get the date from Suma
> Swamy,
> we understand she is on leave and will be back only on Tuesday.
>
> Prof Dilip Sen has told us that Suma will help us get a date in his
> absence,
> hopefully we will get the date on Tuesday, mean while
> if you have her number let us know so that we can complete the test process
> asap.
>
> -Thanks
> Dattatreya
>
> On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 11:23 PM, kunal ghosh <kunal.t2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Dattatreya,
> >
> > You had come over to Sir MVIT to create awareness about your Machine
> > Learning course. Can you please email the
> > dates and timings,  along with the venue for the entrace test.
> >
> > regards.
> >
> > On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 11:11 PM, Dattatreya Sharma
> > <guruprevails at gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> > > > Dear Python Programmers,
> > > >
> > > > GuRu Prevails is India's only organizations that is into *private
> > > *training
> > > > in Machine Learning.
> > > >
> > > > We are looking for guest faculties who would be interested in taking
> a
> > > work
> > > > shop on Python for 16 hours starting this Sunday 9th May 2010 over
> > > > week-ends.
> > > > Interested candidates are requested to touch base with us
> immediately.
> > > >
> > > > To reach us please call 9972952810 and ask for Dattatreya
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Thanks,
> > > Dattatreya P Sharma
> > > Zombie ( Founder - GuRu Prevails.com)
> > > +91 9972952810
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > BangPypers mailing list
> > > BangPypers at python.org
> > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > regards
> > -------
> > Kunal Ghosh
> > Dept of Computer Sc. & Engineering.
> > Sir MVIT
> > Bangalore,India
> >
> > Quote:
> > "Ignorance is not a sin, the persistence of ignorance is"
> > --
> > "If you find a task difficult today, you'll find it difficult 10yrs later
> > too !"
> > -----
> > "Failing to Plan is Planning to Fail"
> >
> > Blog:kunalghosh.wordpress.com
> > Website:www.kunalghosh.net46.net
> > V-card:http://tinyurl.com/86qjyk
> > _______________________________________________
> > BangPypers mailing list
> > BangPypers at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Dattatreya P Sharma
> Zombie ( Founder - GuRu Prevails.com)
> +91 9972952810
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>

From jayakumargenius at gmail.com  Sat May  8 17:25:08 2010
From: jayakumargenius at gmail.com (jaya kumar)
Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 08:25:08 -0700
Subject: [BangPypers] i installed jaunty jackapole ubuntu 9.04 version
Message-ID: <x2h927ff73d1005080825k793ba961r144a6b530435de7f@mail.gmail.com>

hi to all

i installed ubuntu 9.04 jaunty jackapole version ....

how i know LAMP stack installed in my o/s or not ?

it is inbuilt featured with ubuntu o/s or we need to be installed ?

what is the procedure for installing lamp stack in my ubuntu 9.04 version ?

 i need mysql and php to practice for web development ?

is there any separate command for each ex:- mysql and apache and php ?

or else it will combinely in one pack (i,e) lamp stack ?

do i need net connection to download these packages to my o/s or else just i
add on these package ?

later after installing please can any one tell how to start the php and
mysql and apache in my system before i going to work out ?

please tell me

sorry for asking  so many questions

From kausikram at gmail.com  Sat May  8 17:33:49 2010
From: kausikram at gmail.com (kausikram krishnasayee)
Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 21:03:49 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] i installed jaunty jackapole ubuntu 9.04 version
In-Reply-To: <x2h927ff73d1005080825k793ba961r144a6b530435de7f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <x2h927ff73d1005080825k793ba961r144a6b530435de7f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <u2k2597ddb91005080833i29ea352ds3b31eaa66e9796c6@mail.gmail.com>

Admin please ban this user. this is the 5th time an OT has been posted.

Jaykumar,
please post to relevant groups, questions that are smart and to the point.
And please do your googling before you fire away questions this is utterly
ridiculous. we are inclusive and are ready to help in what ever way possible
but please dont take our niceness for granted.

-- 
Kausikram Krishnasayee
Company: http://silverstripesoftware.com | Webpage: kausikram.net | Blog:
blog.kausikram.net | Twitter: http://twitter.com/kausikram | Email:
kausikram at gmail.com | Mobile: +91 9884246490

From fslash8 at gmail.com  Sat May  8 17:38:10 2010
From: fslash8 at gmail.com (Shiv Shankar)
Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 21:08:10 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] i installed jaunty jackapole ubuntu 9.04 version
In-Reply-To: <x2h927ff73d1005080825k793ba961r144a6b530435de7f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <x2h927ff73d1005080825k793ba961r144a6b530435de7f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <g2n86143af21005080838m102f1537rd2ca1820af480562@mail.gmail.com>

>From your set of questions its evident that you have not done your part of
reading about the lamp stack, IMHO RFTM.

On May 8, 2010 8:55 PM, "jaya kumar" <jayakumargenius at gmail.com> wrote:

hi to all

i installed ubuntu 9.04 jaunty jackapole version ....

how i know LAMP stack installed in my o/s or not ?

it is inbuilt featured with ubuntu o/s or we need to be installed ?

what is the procedure for installing lamp stack in my ubuntu 9.04 version ?

 i need mysql and php to practice for web development ?

is there any separate command for each ex:- mysql and apache and php ?

or else it will combinely in one pack (i,e) lamp stack ?

do i need net connection to download these packages to my o/s or else just i
add on these package ?

later after installing please can any one tell how to start the php and
mysql and apache in my system before i going to work out ?

please tell me

sorry for asking  so many questions
_______________________________________________
BangPypers mailing list
BangPypers at python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers

From kunal.t2 at gmail.com  Sat May  8 19:31:18 2010
From: kunal.t2 at gmail.com (kunal ghosh)
Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 23:01:18 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Looking for guest faculties in Python to take work
	shop for 16 hours over weekends
In-Reply-To: <r2ma3b05e8b1005080800p253cd05di83b92568166d0b5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <n2h9f7989441005071038ld6466ed5zeb688dcb104ab6d5@mail.gmail.com>
	<z2o9f7989441005071041k126a04ddh69d289a99f96a8b4@mail.gmail.com>
	<o2r6ee952ce1005071053z2081446bk7c12c09a892d7a40@mail.gmail.com>
	<z2s9f7989441005071059w8266fa5awf14c6b82ea4a572@mail.gmail.com>
	<r2ma3b05e8b1005080800p253cd05di83b92568166d0b5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <y2t6ee952ce1005081031j3c8f9f3bsab38a8f570e9a5fa@mail.gmail.com>

hi Venkatraman,

my apologies, will keep it in mind hence forth.

regards,

On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 8:30 PM, Venkatraman S <venkat83 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dont you think this can be done in private emails?
> Probably, a training on sending emails in DLs can be offered initially.
>
>
> On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 11:29 PM, Dattatreya Sharma
> <guruprevails at gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > Dear Kunal,
> >
> > Prof Dilip Sen is not well, he has asked us to get the date from Suma
> > Swamy,
> > we understand she is on leave and will be back only on Tuesday.
> >
> > Prof Dilip Sen has told us that Suma will help us get a date in his
> > absence,
> > hopefully we will get the date on Tuesday, mean while
> > if you have her number let us know so that we can complete the test
> process
> > asap.
> >
> > -Thanks
> > Dattatreya
> >
> > On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 11:23 PM, kunal ghosh <kunal.t2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Dattatreya,
> > >
> > > You had come over to Sir MVIT to create awareness about your Machine
> > > Learning course. Can you please email the
> > > dates and timings,  along with the venue for the entrace test.
> > >
> > > regards.
> > >
> > > On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 11:11 PM, Dattatreya Sharma
> > > <guruprevails at gmail.com>wrote:
> > >
> > > > > Dear Python Programmers,
> > > > >
> > > > > GuRu Prevails is India's only organizations that is into *private
> > > > *training
> > > > > in Machine Learning.
> > > > >
> > > > > We are looking for guest faculties who would be interested in
> taking
> > a
> > > > work
> > > > > shop on Python for 16 hours starting this Sunday 9th May 2010 over
> > > > > week-ends.
> > > > > Interested candidates are requested to touch base with us
> > immediately.
> > > > >
> > > > > To reach us please call 9972952810 and ask for Dattatreya
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Dattatreya P Sharma
> > > > Zombie ( Founder - GuRu Prevails.com)
> > > > +91 9972952810
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > BangPypers mailing list
> > > > BangPypers at python.org
> > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > regards
> > > -------
> > > Kunal Ghosh
> > > Dept of Computer Sc. & Engineering.
> > > Sir MVIT
> > > Bangalore,India
> > >
> > > Quote:
> > > "Ignorance is not a sin, the persistence of ignorance is"
> > > --
> > > "If you find a task difficult today, you'll find it difficult 10yrs
> later
> > > too !"
> > > -----
> > > "Failing to Plan is Planning to Fail"
> > >
> > > Blog:kunalghosh.wordpress.com
> > > Website:www.kunalghosh.net46.net
> > > V-card:http://tinyurl.com/86qjyk
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > BangPypers mailing list
> > > BangPypers at python.org
> > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanks,
> > Dattatreya P Sharma
> > Zombie ( Founder - GuRu Prevails.com)
> > +91 9972952810
> > _______________________________________________
> > BangPypers mailing list
> > BangPypers at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
> >
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>

From noufal at gmail.com  Sat May  8 20:18:22 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 23:48:22 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] i installed jaunty jackapole ubuntu 9.04 version
In-Reply-To: <x2h927ff73d1005080825k793ba961r144a6b530435de7f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <x2h927ff73d1005080825k793ba961r144a6b530435de7f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <s2p9963e56e1005081118y91e3da3emeb4b8316bfc6abff@mail.gmail.com>

On 5/8/10, jaya kumar <jayakumargenius at gmail.com> wrote:
..
> please tell me
>
> sorry for asking  so many questions
Google for "asking smart questions" and read it. You really need to
try before firing off like this.
-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From dhavalsharma at gmail.com  Sun May  9 08:35:30 2010
From: dhavalsharma at gmail.com (Dhaval Sharma)
Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 12:05:30 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Django Jammers
Message-ID: <u2hc9ba346f1005082335s88172274u9a357a3972158fcf@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Group,

Let me know if this is the right forum to initiate coding initiative.

I propose a monthly meet to jam and meet at a common place and produce some
cool django stuff. It could be in day or night.

A time constrained onus for us to produce the assigned module and integrate
to produce an awesome site. All in a day.

I propose the following steps

   1. We produce the idea. Or there could be sponsors of idea.
   2. We vote for the idea to code.
   3. We design and create modules. Assign them.
   4. We code.
   5. We stuff the place with food and drinks if people want to eat and
   drink" while they jam.


Please let me know when can we do it.
-- 
With Warm Regards,
@dhavalsharma
http://dsteps.blogspot.com
http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhavalsharma
http://carpoolkaro.appspot.com

From ideamonk at gmail.com  Sun May  9 08:58:36 2010
From: ideamonk at gmail.com (Abhishek Mishra)
Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 12:28:36 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Django Jammers
In-Reply-To: <u2hc9ba346f1005082335s88172274u9a357a3972158fcf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <u2hc9ba346f1005082335s88172274u9a357a3972158fcf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <s2o64160c71005082358sa7121f54ne7c128ed09092e8a@mail.gmail.com>

We tried doing something similar - http://24camp.org/ in chennai as well as
bangalore.
But as for bangalore, the population was usually low - 2 to 4 but the
kickstart was good.

Hoping to be able to get back to such things in summer :)

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Dhaval Sharma <dhavalsharma at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hello Group,
>
> Let me know if this is the right forum to initiate coding initiative.
>
> I propose a monthly meet to jam and meet at a common place and produce some
> cool django stuff. It could be in day or night.
>
> A time constrained onus for us to produce the assigned module and integrate
> to produce an awesome site. All in a day.
>
> I propose the following steps
>
>   1. We produce the idea. Or there could be sponsors of idea.
>   2. We vote for the idea to code.
>   3. We design and create modules. Assign them.
>   4. We code.
>   5. We stuff the place with food and drinks if people want to eat and
>   drink" while they jam.
>
>
> Please let me know when can we do it.
> --
> With Warm Regards,
> @dhavalsharma
> http://dsteps.blogspot.com
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhavalsharma
> http://carpoolkaro.appspot.com
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>

From mail at manishsinha.net  Sun May  9 13:45:09 2010
From: mail at manishsinha.net (Manish Sinha)
Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 17:15:09 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Django Jammers
In-Reply-To: <u2hc9ba346f1005082335s88172274u9a357a3972158fcf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <u2hc9ba346f1005082335s88172274u9a357a3972158fcf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <o2odd8be9131005090445h27ae8821x5f2a0b0ee40b5c3d@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Dhaval Sharma <dhavalsharma at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hello Group,
>
> Let me know if this is the right forum to initiate coding initiative.
>
> I propose a monthly meet to jam and meet at a common place and produce some
> cool django stuff. It could be in day or night.
>
> A time constrained onus for us to produce the assigned module and integrate
> to produce an awesome site. All in a day.
>
> I propose the following steps
>
>   1. We produce the idea. Or there could be sponsors of idea.
>   2. We vote for the idea to code.
>   3. We design and create modules. Assign them.
>   4. We code.
>   5. We stuff the place with food and drinks if people want to eat and
>   drink" while they jam.
>

This Saturday?
Abhishek, if you are free this Saturday, then we can try to meet at Directi
and get some stuff done.

--
Manish Sinha

From mail at manishsinha.net  Sun May  9 13:53:04 2010
From: mail at manishsinha.net (Manish Sinha)
Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 17:23:04 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] i installed jaunty jackapole ubuntu 9.04 version
In-Reply-To: <x2h927ff73d1005080825k793ba961r144a6b530435de7f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <x2h927ff73d1005080825k793ba961r144a6b530435de7f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <z2wdd8be9131005090453m677f843z8835ce19bcce25c7@mail.gmail.com>

>
> i installed ubuntu 9.04 jaunty jackapole version ....
>
>
Nice joke.



> it is inbuilt featured with ubuntu o/s or we need to be installed ?
>

LAMP stack as a feature?


>
> what is the procedure for installing lamp stack in my ubuntu 9.04 version ?
>

sudo apt-get install apache2 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server


>
>  i need mysql and php to practice for web development ?
>
> is there any separate command for each ex:- mysql and apache and php ?
>
> or else it will combinely in one pack (i,e) lamp stack ?
>

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP


>
> do i need net connection to download these packages to my o/s or else just
> i
> add on these package ?
>

You do need, would make installation very easy.


>
> later after installing please can any one tell how to start the php and
> mysql and apache in my system before i going to work out ?
>
>
You first need to learn PHP and MySQL and then ask questions. Gogle is your
friend.


> sorry for asking  so many questions


You should not be sorry for asking questions as this group is meant for
that.
Instead you should be sorry on three counts:
1) Asking a question which is not related to this group.
2) Cross posting to more than one group
3) Not doing "Googling" before asking a question. A simple google search
brought this result
http://www.google.co.in/search?q=ubuntu+wiki+install+lamp


--
Manish Sinha

From ideamonk at gmail.com  Sun May  9 14:22:37 2010
From: ideamonk at gmail.com (Abhishek Mishra)
Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 17:52:37 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Django Jammers
In-Reply-To: <o2odd8be9131005090445h27ae8821x5f2a0b0ee40b5c3d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <u2hc9ba346f1005082335s88172274u9a357a3972158fcf@mail.gmail.com>
	<o2odd8be9131005090445h27ae8821x5f2a0b0ee40b5c3d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <u2t64160c71005090522h3c35ba64vf7066a4cc4818357@mail.gmail.com>

>
> This Saturday?
> Abhishek, if you are free this Saturday, then we can try to meet at Directi
> and get some stuff done.
>
>
Not free this Sat buddy, but any other dates are fine.

[ If this is specifically about django then I might not be able to jam much
:) ]

From madhav.bnk at gmail.com  Sun May  9 19:41:41 2010
From: madhav.bnk at gmail.com (B.Nanda Kishore)
Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 23:11:41 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Django Jammers
In-Reply-To: <o2odd8be9131005090445h27ae8821x5f2a0b0ee40b5c3d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <u2hc9ba346f1005082335s88172274u9a357a3972158fcf@mail.gmail.com> 
	<o2odd8be9131005090445h27ae8821x5f2a0b0ee40b5c3d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <i2j26030bef1005091041ua2e991bard985bdbad19498f0@mail.gmail.com>

+1 for this saturday.

Any probable ideas, for a django project?

Regards,
Nandakishore


On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Manish Sinha <mail at manishsinha.net> wrote:

> On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Dhaval Sharma <dhavalsharma at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Hello Group,
> >
> > Let me know if this is the right forum to initiate coding initiative.
> >
> > I propose a monthly meet to jam and meet at a common place and produce
> some
> > cool django stuff. It could be in day or night.
> >
> > A time constrained onus for us to produce the assigned module and
> integrate
> > to produce an awesome site. All in a day.
> >
> > I propose the following steps
> >
> >   1. We produce the idea. Or there could be sponsors of idea.
> >   2. We vote for the idea to code.
> >   3. We design and create modules. Assign them.
> >   4. We code.
> >   5. We stuff the place with food and drinks if people want to eat and
> >   drink" while they jam.
> >
>
> This Saturday?
> Abhishek, if you are free this Saturday, then we can try to meet at Directi
> and get some stuff done.
>
> --
> Manish Sinha
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>

From abpillai at gmail.com  Sun May  9 19:55:43 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 23:25:43 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] i installed jaunty jackapole ubuntu 9.04 version
In-Reply-To: <x2h927ff73d1005080825k793ba961r144a6b530435de7f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <x2h927ff73d1005080825k793ba961r144a6b530435de7f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <j2o8548c5f31005091055y577097f8o87b09b146abbdde5@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 8:55 PM, jaya kumar <jayakumargenius at gmail.com>wrote:

> hi to all
>
> i installed ubuntu 9.04 jaunty jackapole version ....
>

Cool. I searched for that version on Ubuntu's website and  none
the wiser for it. Are you sure it is spelled jack-a-pole ? Perhaps it
is j-a-c-k-a-s-s ?


> how i know LAMP stack installed in my o/s or not ?
>
> it is inbuilt featured with ubuntu o/s or we need to be installed ?
>
> what is the procedure for installing lamp stack in my ubuntu 9.04 version ?
>
>  i need mysql and php to practice for web development ?
>
> is there any separate command for each ex:- mysql and apache and php ?
>
> or else it will combinely in one pack (i,e) lamp stack ?
>
> do i need net connection to download these packages to my o/s or else just
> i
> add on these package ?
>
> later after installing please can any one tell how to start the php and
> mysql and apache in my system before i going to work out ?
>
> please tell me
>
> sorry for asking  so many questions
>

Pretty soon I will be feeling sorry for not booting you off this list
quicker.



> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



-- 
--Anand

From abpillai at gmail.com  Sun May  9 19:59:33 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 23:29:33 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] XML manipulation using ElementTree
In-Reply-To: <k2pfcaed0611005070503re2b8cec5qd0c37d4e94503eed@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU141-W32724EBBBF01891953A60E80F60@phx.gbl>
	<k2pfcaed0611005070503re2b8cec5qd0c37d4e94503eed@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <s2j8548c5f31005091059y95032aucaad392c13698c8c@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Keith,


> On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Keith Chapman <keith.chap at hotmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> >    request.set(
> >        "<m:getQuote xmlns:m="http://services.samples/xsd">
> >           <m:request>
> >              <m:symbol>" + symbol + "</m:symbol>
> >           </m:request>
> >        </m:getQuote>"
> >        )
> >    return request
> >
>
>

> Please paste the error you are getting somewhere like pastebin.ca
>
and post the link here. Also please post the full code along with the error.



>
> -Vikas
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



-- 
--Anand

From gora at srijan.in  Sun May  9 21:20:39 2010
From: gora at srijan.in (Gora Mohanty)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 00:50:39 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] XML manipulation using ElementTree
In-Reply-To: <s2j8548c5f31005091059y95032aucaad392c13698c8c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU141-W32724EBBBF01891953A60E80F60@phx.gbl>
	<k2pfcaed0611005070503re2b8cec5qd0c37d4e94503eed@mail.gmail.com>
	<s2j8548c5f31005091059y95032aucaad392c13698c8c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100510005039.5d404048@ibis>

On Sun, 9 May 2010 23:29:33 +0530
Anand Balachandran Pillai <abpillai at gmail.com> wrote:
[...]
> > Please paste the error you are getting somewhere like
> > pastebin.ca
> >
> and post the link here. Also please post the full code along with
> the error.
[...]

Besides the above, I would also strongly suggest using lxml.
lxml's support for XSL transformations makes the work of converting
from one XML format to another very easy.

Regards,
Gora

From noufal at gmail.com  Mon May 10 11:33:26 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 15:03:26 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] @dabeaz visiting b'lore
In-Reply-To: <q2qa13a3b481004301530zdc9703bbv6ef70b15667dddcd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d4ab53de1003301357v68af1d5cn4bfe055872e2605d@mail.gmail.com>
	<t2n64160c71004011443ud6b286bbw6150aefa1e3f7beb@mail.gmail.com>
	<n2h9963e56e1004280552n1cca82a6k5a9bd4f8fc063166@mail.gmail.com>
	<t2z9963e56e1004282330ydde6ecadg93568ba0941d3d79@mail.gmail.com>
	<o2z3d62196a1004290141xdf62d710n1d64cc8136d51451@mail.gmail.com>
	<n2s9963e56e1004290229g823e797o6babaeb2576b9cf@mail.gmail.com>
	<w2y3d62196a1004290255i1e9e239dz46679bd5bd434cd1@mail.gmail.com>
	<j2q9963e56e1004292304g7c870632m5d42f532d34696e7@mail.gmail.com>
	<t2v3d62196a1004292331y3bfb6e8eyf0900dd44cde1d30@mail.gmail.com>
	<q2qa13a3b481004301530zdc9703bbv6ef70b15667dddcd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimz0Gx8HgTuSDEtnIN3rUHzX-o9HznJmQGqz3QY@mail.gmail.com>

Wednesday evening. Say around 1900 at the venue mentioned in my
earlier email. Fine with everyone?

On 5/1/10, Vishal <vsapre80 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Arvind Jamuna Dixit
> <ardsrk at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > No other suggestions?
>> > The GIL thing is probably going to be a conversation about methods of
>> > fixing it, improving it's performance. It'd probably require some in
>> > depth knowledge of the GIL implementation.
>> >
>>
>> I just looked up the TOC of his book ( The Python Essential Reference ).
>> There I
>> saw ABCs being listed under "Chapter 15. Data Structure, Algorithms and
>> Code
>> Simplification".
>>
>> Then there is "Generators and Coroutines".
>>
>> So, if others think GIL is a dry subject or something that requires
>> preparation
>> beforehand then we could ask him to talk about ABCs, Generators and
>> Coroutines and
>> then if time permits on the GIL.
>>
>> Is that OK?
>> --
>> Arvind
>> _______________________________________________
>> BangPypers mailing list
>> BangPypers at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>>
>
> Hi,
>
> my 2 cents and things I would be interested in...
>
> I think it would also help to know in general about interpreters, and the
> python interpreter particularly.
> about having JITs for Python interpreter etc. And improving Python
> performance in general..using dataflow optimizations to the bytecode itself.
> Also about packaging in Python, what are his thoughts on the ideal solution.
> And about his experience on concurrency approaches in Python....coroutines
> vs threads vs processes etc
>
> Thanks and best regards,
> Vishal Sapre
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>


-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From ardsrk at gmail.com  Mon May 10 12:26:17 2010
From: ardsrk at gmail.com (Arvind Jamuna Dixit)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 15:56:17 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] @dabeaz visiting b'lore
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimz0Gx8HgTuSDEtnIN3rUHzX-o9HznJmQGqz3QY@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d4ab53de1003301357v68af1d5cn4bfe055872e2605d@mail.gmail.com>
	<n2h9963e56e1004280552n1cca82a6k5a9bd4f8fc063166@mail.gmail.com>
	<t2z9963e56e1004282330ydde6ecadg93568ba0941d3d79@mail.gmail.com>
	<o2z3d62196a1004290141xdf62d710n1d64cc8136d51451@mail.gmail.com>
	<n2s9963e56e1004290229g823e797o6babaeb2576b9cf@mail.gmail.com>
	<w2y3d62196a1004290255i1e9e239dz46679bd5bd434cd1@mail.gmail.com>
	<j2q9963e56e1004292304g7c870632m5d42f532d34696e7@mail.gmail.com>
	<t2v3d62196a1004292331y3bfb6e8eyf0900dd44cde1d30@mail.gmail.com>
	<q2qa13a3b481004301530zdc9703bbv6ef70b15667dddcd@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimz0Gx8HgTuSDEtnIN3rUHzX-o9HznJmQGqz3QY@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <o2p3d62196a1005100326z5a8d1233q936273ab20f037d0@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

> Wednesday evening. Say around 1900 at the venue mentioned in my
> earlier email. Fine with everyone?
>

Yeah, fine with me.

-- 
Arvind

From dhavalsharma at gmail.com  Mon May 10 12:49:41 2010
From: dhavalsharma at gmail.com (Dhaval Sharma)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 16:19:41 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] @dabeaz visiting b'lore
Message-ID: <AANLkTinkY2eRfsmQDgwdcIJsYdqyIkSDTpTa8ga8pIWC@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Can you share the venue again as I have recently joined the group and must
have missed previous email?


-- 
With Warm Regards,
@dhavalsharma
http://dsteps.blogspot.com
http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhavalsharma
http://carpoolkaro.appspot.com

From noufal at gmail.com  Mon May 10 13:54:58 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 17:24:58 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] @dabeaz visiting b'lore
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinkY2eRfsmQDgwdcIJsYdqyIkSDTpTa8ga8pIWC@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinkY2eRfsmQDgwdcIJsYdqyIkSDTpTa8ga8pIWC@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilMG-o0G6UF-TJNVlDJAgtooBJZMeYIgm0c1gCE@mail.gmail.com>

The list archives will have it. I don't have complete access to the
net right now.

On 5/10/10, Dhaval Sharma <dhavalsharma at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Can you share the venue again as I have recently joined the group and must
> have missed previous email?
>
>
> --
> With Warm Regards,
> @dhavalsharma
> http://dsteps.blogspot.com
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhavalsharma
> http://carpoolkaro.appspot.com
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>


-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From vsapre80 at gmail.com  Mon May 10 14:34:53 2010
From: vsapre80 at gmail.com (Vishal)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 18:04:53 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] @dabeaz visiting b'lore
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilMG-o0G6UF-TJNVlDJAgtooBJZMeYIgm0c1gCE@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinkY2eRfsmQDgwdcIJsYdqyIkSDTpTa8ga8pIWC@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTilMG-o0G6UF-TJNVlDJAgtooBJZMeYIgm0c1gCE@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilAgoWVZz9WvrOvJK3gOSUa4X_CuxLPWrmRKVxa@mail.gmail.com>

+1 for this venue.

its very close to my workplace as well.

Noufal, can you send us your cell, so we can contact you once we reach the
venue Prestige Loka
Otherwise, just let us know where to reach in the building.


On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

> The list archives will have it. I don't have complete access to the
> net right now.
>
> On 5/10/10, Dhaval Sharma <dhavalsharma at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Can you share the venue again as I have recently joined the group and
> must
> > have missed previous email?
> >
> >
> > --
> > With Warm Regards,
> > @dhavalsharma
> > http://dsteps.blogspot.com
> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhavalsharma
> > http://carpoolkaro.appspot.com
> > _______________________________________________
> > BangPypers mailing list
> > BangPypers at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
> >
>
>
> --
> ~noufal
> http://nibrahim.net.in
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



-- 
Thanks and best regards,
Vishal Sapre

---
"So say...Day by day, in every way, I am getting better, better and better
!!!"
"A Strong and Positive attitude creates more miracles than anything else.
Because...Life is 10% how you make it, and 90% how you take it"
"Diamond is another piece of coal that did well under pressure?
"May we do good and not evil. May we find forgiveness for ourself and
forgive others. May we share freely, never taking more than we give."

From vnbang2003 at yahoo.com  Mon May 10 14:23:37 2010
From: vnbang2003 at yahoo.com (vijay)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 17:53:37 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [BangPypers] Fw: Re:  @dabeaz visiting b'lore
Message-ID: <543478.212.qm@web95311.mail.in2.yahoo.com>

Venue mail


--- On Wed, 28/4/10, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [BangPypers] @dabeaz visiting b'lore
To: "Bangalore Python Users Group - India" <bangpypers at python.org>
Date: Wednesday, 28 April, 2010, 6:22 PM

There are around 10 people who've +1d

Dave will be here from 10th May to 15th May (he's leaving on the 15th
late at night).
I've spoken to the people where I currently am (TANDBERG) and they're
okay with a meeting in the evenings. The space is pretty decent and
can house around 10 - 12 people. So the venue will work. Additionally,
it's right next door to where he stays so it's convenient for him as
well.

http://maps.google.com/maps/place?cid=7402559017877928659&q=Prestige+Loka,+Brunton+Road,+Bangalore&hl=en&cd=1&cad=src:pplink&ei=Fi_YS5G0DI7kugPF-q3wDQ&sig2=YDSpYV-yI4TrnRpZzCsd6A
for details on where.

He's asked about possible topics to talk about. One is of course, the
GIL (particularly various approaches on fixing it that are floating
around). Another is Abstract base classes. Then there's the Python
"advanced" features like decorators, generators etc.

Any other suggestions?


-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in
_______________________________________________
BangPypers mailing list
BangPypers at python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers



From noufal at gmail.com  Mon May 10 14:57:47 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 18:27:47 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] @dabeaz visiting b'lore
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilAgoWVZz9WvrOvJK3gOSUa4X_CuxLPWrmRKVxa@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinkY2eRfsmQDgwdcIJsYdqyIkSDTpTa8ga8pIWC@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTilMG-o0G6UF-TJNVlDJAgtooBJZMeYIgm0c1gCE@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTilAgoWVZz9WvrOvJK3gOSUa4X_CuxLPWrmRKVxa@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilE_hGHJq-dHHMRoc2hSzgzbhOLxAxXkDMhhL04@mail.gmail.com>

2nd floor. Prestige Loka. Tandberg technologies india. It's on brunton
road. You can't miss it. Same building as red hat.

On 5/10/10, Vishal <vsapre80 at gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 for this venue.
>
> its very close to my workplace as well.
>
> Noufal, can you send us your cell, so we can contact you once we reach the
> venue Prestige Loka
> Otherwise, just let us know where to reach in the building.
>
>
> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The list archives will have it. I don't have complete access to the
>> net right now.
>>
>> On 5/10/10, Dhaval Sharma <dhavalsharma at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Can you share the venue again as I have recently joined the group and
>> must
>> > have missed previous email?
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > With Warm Regards,
>> > @dhavalsharma
>> > http://dsteps.blogspot.com
>> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhavalsharma
>> > http://carpoolkaro.appspot.com
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > BangPypers mailing list
>> > BangPypers at python.org
>> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> ~noufal
>> http://nibrahim.net.in
>> _______________________________________________
>> BangPypers mailing list
>> BangPypers at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks and best regards,
> Vishal Sapre
>
> ---
> "So say...Day by day, in every way, I am getting better, better and better
> !!!"
> "A Strong and Positive attitude creates more miracles than anything else.
> Because...Life is 10% how you make it, and 90% how you take it"
> "Diamond is another piece of coal that did well under pressure?
> "May we do good and not evil. May we find forgiveness for ourself and
> forgive others. May we share freely, never taking more than we give."
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>


-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From sethi.anubha at gmail.com  Wed May 12 06:58:57 2010
From: sethi.anubha at gmail.com (Anubha Dadhich)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 10:28:57 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Django Jammers
In-Reply-To: <i2j26030bef1005091041ua2e991bard985bdbad19498f0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <u2hc9ba346f1005082335s88172274u9a357a3972158fcf@mail.gmail.com>
	<o2odd8be9131005090445h27ae8821x5f2a0b0ee40b5c3d@mail.gmail.com>
	<i2j26030bef1005091041ua2e991bard985bdbad19498f0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinYGtK7RyimvhoORLp0WW6u6wJrrKg8cgayAnct@mail.gmail.com>

Are there any concrete plans?

+1 from my side for this saturday

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 11:11 PM, B.Nanda Kishore <madhav.bnk at gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 for this saturday.
>
> Any probable ideas, for a django project?
>
> Regards,
> Nandakishore
>
>
> On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Manish Sinha <mail at manishsinha.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Dhaval Sharma <dhavalsharma at gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > Hello Group,
>> >
>> > Let me know if this is the right forum to initiate coding initiative.
>> >
>> > I propose a monthly meet to jam and meet at a common place and produce
>> some
>> > cool django stuff. It could be in day or night.
>> >
>> > A time constrained onus for us to produce the assigned module and
>> integrate
>> > to produce an awesome site. All in a day.
>> >
>> > I propose the following steps
>> >
>> > ? 1. We produce the idea. Or there could be sponsors of idea.
>> > ? 2. We vote for the idea to code.
>> > ? 3. We design and create modules. Assign them.
>> > ? 4. We code.
>> > ? 5. We stuff the place with food and drinks if people want to eat and
>> > ? drink" while they jam.
>> >
>>
>> This Saturday?
>> Abhishek, if you are free this Saturday, then we can try to meet at Directi
>> and get some stuff done.
>>
>> --
>> Manish Sinha
>> _______________________________________________
>> BangPypers mailing list
>> BangPypers at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>>
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>

From dhavalsharma at gmail.com  Wed May 12 11:13:38 2010
From: dhavalsharma at gmail.com (Dhaval Sharma)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 14:43:38 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Django Jammers
Message-ID: <AANLkTimX-Up6lm1otu7lAaUAt0RggAlTfeIxgia3N3yM@mail.gmail.com>

I will be at appjam on this saturday. How about next saturday?

-- 
With Warm Regards,
@dhavalsharma
http://dsteps.blogspot.com
http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhavalsharma
http://carpoolkaro.appspot.com

From govind.menon at beacon.in  Wed May 12 12:31:29 2010
From: govind.menon at beacon.in (Govind Menon)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 16:01:29 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [JOB] - Opening for Python developers
Message-ID: <3F5078CF066F4B89BE3A106E09F62B2E@Beaconnetbook>

Hi,

 

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understanding and enabling the candidates in their effort to move up the
career graph.

 

One of our clients is looking for strong Python developers with the profile
given below:

 

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We are looking for a software engineer to join our core engineering team.

Engineers on our team design, build, and optimize the servers/services for
our high-volume sales transactions processing servers, high-volume
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*	Code primarily in Java and Python. 
*	Design and implement highly scalable, fault-tolerant, multi-tenant
servers and services. 
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*	Experience in building large scale applications/servers. 
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processing, accessing data from data warehouse/mart. 
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ActiveMQ (any other Messaging server) on java, experience in  RESTFul/SOAP
web services. Experience in Django or other web app frame work in
python/experience in Ruby On Rails or other web app frame work in Ruby.
Worked on SQL Alchemy or Pylons. 

*	Demonstrated hands-on experience working in an Agile development
team. 
*	Experienced in continuous integration/iterative/test driven
development. 
*	Passionate about working in small focussed teams. 

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Director,

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From sethi.anubha at gmail.com  Wed May 12 12:44:41 2010
From: sethi.anubha at gmail.com (Anubha Dadhich)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 16:14:41 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Django Jammers
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimX-Up6lm1otu7lAaUAt0RggAlTfeIxgia3N3yM@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimX-Up6lm1otu7lAaUAt0RggAlTfeIxgia3N3yM@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinYyzcDSJAik1RZnLkY4GY83UFPGwJw3xrmOHPa@mail.gmail.com>

+1 for next saturday.

Can we discuss a few project ideas for the session.

Also would like to know the duration of the session.

On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Dhaval Sharma <dhavalsharma at gmail.com> wrote:
> I will be at appjam on this saturday. How about next saturday?
>
> --
> With Warm Regards,
> @dhavalsharma
> http://dsteps.blogspot.com
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhavalsharma
> http://carpoolkaro.appspot.com
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>

From mail at manishsinha.net  Wed May 12 18:16:18 2010
From: mail at manishsinha.net (Manish Sinha)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 21:46:18 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] i need to learn lamp stack ?
In-Reply-To: <s2l927ff73d1005071038za451cb2boad56a248823eb37e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <s2l927ff73d1005071038za451cb2boad56a248823eb37e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4BEAD452.2030206@manishsinha.net>

On 5/7/2010 11:08 PM, jaya kumar wrote:
> hi to all
>
> i need to learn the lamp stack ?
>
> can any one tell what is lamp stack ? what it will be useful for ?
>
> how many days it will take to learn and is there any job opportunites for
> this programme ?
>
> where is the code available for web applications using lamp stack ?
>
> is there any one conducting seminar about lamp stack ?
>
>
> i hope i will get reply
>    

List Mods,

This person has gone berserk. Please moderate the posts from this user.
Most of the queries can be answered by simply Googling.

Jaya, n offense meant but I have a good resource for you - > 
http://is.gd/c60m5

--
Manish Sinha

From dhavalsharma at gmail.com  Thu May 13 08:07:41 2010
From: dhavalsharma at gmail.com (Dhaval Sharma)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 11:37:41 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Django Jammers
Message-ID: <AANLkTimqEIH8gTBW18kYe6y9_OzZloLtL9fOe3ZZmW6v@mail.gmail.com>

Have created another google group to manage the logistics and ideas for such
event at



djangojammers at googlegroups.com



let me know if you would be comfortable with another group specifically
focused on organizing such meets.

Have posted few initial ideas at the google groups. please review and let's
discuss

-- 
With Warm Regards,
@dhavalsharma
http://dsteps.blogspot.com
http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhavalsharma
http://carpoolkaro.appspot.com

From abpillai at gmail.com  Thu May 13 08:33:01 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 12:03:01 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] i need to learn lamp stack ?
In-Reply-To: <4BEAD452.2030206@manishsinha.net>
References: <s2l927ff73d1005071038za451cb2boad56a248823eb37e@mail.gmail.com>
	<4BEAD452.2030206@manishsinha.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilffU2xNcz2Yp1RnzZIq-Krpl-rL7V4scYsM6yR@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Manish Sinha <mail at manishsinha.net> wrote:

> On 5/7/2010 11:08 PM, jaya kumar wrote:
>
>> hi to all
>>
>> i need to learn the lamp stack ?
>>
>> can any one tell what is lamp stack ? what it will be useful for ?
>>
>> how many days it will take to learn and is there any job opportunites for
>> this programme ?
>>
>> where is the code available for web applications using lamp stack ?
>>
>> is there any one conducting seminar about lamp stack ?
>>
>>
>> i hope i will get reply
>>
>>
>
> List Mods,
>
> This person has gone berserk. Please moderate the posts from this user.
> Most of the queries can be answered by simply Googling.
>

 It has been done since the day he started this thread.

 Btw I don't think this is a some stupid guy trying to figure things
 out. I suspect it is someone who is intentionally  spamming the list
 with what is meant to look like a series of questions from a confused
 character.


> Jaya, n offense meant but I have a good resource for you - >
> http://is.gd/c60m5
>
> --
> Manish Sinha
>
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



-- 
--Anand

From noufal at gmail.com  Thu May 13 08:45:38 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 12:15:38 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] i need to learn lamp stack ?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilffU2xNcz2Yp1RnzZIq-Krpl-rL7V4scYsM6yR@mail.gmail.com>
References: <s2l927ff73d1005071038za451cb2boad56a248823eb37e@mail.gmail.com>
	<4BEAD452.2030206@manishsinha.net>
	<AANLkTilffU2xNcz2Yp1RnzZIq-Krpl-rL7V4scYsM6yR@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimJQUyKfY2UEYvM8m2j08d1teIl5A1ETNLl7jKF@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai
<abpillai at gmail.com> wrote:
[..]
> ?Btw I don't think this is a some stupid guy trying to figure things
> ?out. I suspect it is someone who is intentionally ?spamming the list
> ?with what is meant to look like a series of questions from a confused
> ?character.

[..]

What's in a name? That which we call spam
By another name would stink as bad.



-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Thu May 13 08:47:57 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 12:17:57 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] i need to learn lamp stack ?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilffU2xNcz2Yp1RnzZIq-Krpl-rL7V4scYsM6yR@mail.gmail.com>
References: <s2l927ff73d1005071038za451cb2boad56a248823eb37e@mail.gmail.com>
	<4BEAD452.2030206@manishsinha.net>
	<AANLkTilffU2xNcz2Yp1RnzZIq-Krpl-rL7V4scYsM6yR@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201005131217.57967.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Thursday 13 May 2010 12:03:01 Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote:
> > This person has gone berserk. Please moderate the posts from this user.
> > Most of the queries can be answered by simply Googling.
> 
>  It has been done since the day he started this thread.
> 
>  Btw I don't think this is a some stupid guy trying to figure things
>  out. I suspect it is someone who is intentionally  spamming the list
>  with what is meant to look like a series of questions from a confused
>  character.
> 

some stupid guy - I gave a detailed reply on the ilugc list - then he went 
ahead and installed ubuntu something and was looking for some button to press 
to start the lamp stack.
-- 
Regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Associate
NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC

From abpillai at gmail.com  Thu May 13 09:01:46 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 12:31:46 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] i need to learn lamp stack ?
In-Reply-To: <201005131217.57967.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <s2l927ff73d1005071038za451cb2boad56a248823eb37e@mail.gmail.com>
	<4BEAD452.2030206@manishsinha.net>
	<AANLkTilffU2xNcz2Yp1RnzZIq-Krpl-rL7V4scYsM6yR@mail.gmail.com>
	<201005131217.57967.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik8b_BMjfXDiKXRGeL-KFvXagr1lJhJiHO9K9lF@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org>wrote:

> On Thursday 13 May 2010 12:03:01 Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote:
> > > This person has gone berserk. Please moderate the posts from this user.
> > > Most of the queries can be answered by simply Googling.
> >
> >  It has been done since the day he started this thread.
> >
> >  Btw I don't think this is a some stupid guy trying to figure things
> >  out. I suspect it is someone who is intentionally  spamming the list
> >  with what is meant to look like a series of questions from a confused
> >  character.
> >
>
> some stupid guy - I gave a detailed reply on the ilugc list - then he went
> ahead and installed ubuntu something and was looking for some button to
> press
> to start the lamp stack.
>

 I can't believe it. Someone so stupid trying to play with Linux and open
 source ? Come on, he seems to have less than a hare's brain.  A parrot
 given access to a Linux machine, keyboard and internet would have
 sent out more intelligent emails.



--
> Regards
> Kenneth Gonsalves
> Senior Associate
> NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



-- 
--Anand

From orsenthil at gmail.com  Thu May 13 09:09:24 2010
From: orsenthil at gmail.com (Senthil Kumaran)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 12:39:24 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] trying to close the thread
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik8b_BMjfXDiKXRGeL-KFvXagr1lJhJiHO9K9lF@mail.gmail.com>
References: <s2l927ff73d1005071038za451cb2boad56a248823eb37e@mail.gmail.com>
	<4BEAD452.2030206@manishsinha.net>
	<AANLkTilffU2xNcz2Yp1RnzZIq-Krpl-rL7V4scYsM6yR@mail.gmail.com>
	<201005131217.57967.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<AANLkTik8b_BMjfXDiKXRGeL-KFvXagr1lJhJiHO9K9lF@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100513070924.GA5751@remy>

On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 12:31:46PM +0530, Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote:
> >
> > some stupid guy - I gave a detailed reply on the ilugc list - then he went
> > ahead and installed ubuntu something and was looking for some button to
> > press
> > to start the lamp stack.
> >
> 
>  I can't believe it. Someone so stupid trying to play with Linux and open
>  source ? Come on, he seems to have less than a hare's brain.  A parrot
>  given access to a Linux machine, keyboard and internet would have
>  sent out more intelligent emails.
> 

Forgive my alternative stance.  But it is pointless in abusing someone
like this many times. He is a learner perhaps at a wrong place.  I
would not have restarted this thread and if it is restarted, just
ignore it.


-- 
Senthil

From abpillai at gmail.com  Thu May 13 09:18:41 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 12:48:41 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] trying to close the thread
In-Reply-To: <20100513070924.GA5751@remy>
References: <s2l927ff73d1005071038za451cb2boad56a248823eb37e@mail.gmail.com>
	<4BEAD452.2030206@manishsinha.net>
	<AANLkTilffU2xNcz2Yp1RnzZIq-Krpl-rL7V4scYsM6yR@mail.gmail.com>
	<201005131217.57967.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<AANLkTik8b_BMjfXDiKXRGeL-KFvXagr1lJhJiHO9K9lF@mail.gmail.com>
	<20100513070924.GA5751@remy>
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On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Senthil Kumaran <orsenthil at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 12:31:46PM +0530, Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote:
> > >
> > > some stupid guy - I gave a detailed reply on the ilugc list - then he
> went
> > > ahead and installed ubuntu something and was looking for some button to
> > > press
> > > to start the lamp stack.
> > >
> >
> >  I can't believe it. Someone so stupid trying to play with Linux and open
> >  source ? Come on, he seems to have less than a hare's brain.  A parrot
> >  given access to a Linux machine, keyboard and internet would have
> >  sent out more intelligent emails.
> >
>
> Forgive my alternative stance.  But it is pointless in abusing someone
>

 Who abused him ? Can you look up the meaning of the word "abuse"
 in some dictionary to find out what you are talking about here ?

 To me as moderator, he was abusing this list, none here was
 abusing him. Please choose your words with care and don't use
 strong words where it is not called for.


> like this many times. He is a learner perhaps at a wrong place.  I
> would not have restarted this thread and if it is restarted, just
> ignore it.
>

This person doesn't look like a learner to me. A learner tries things
 and utilizes services available to him more intelligently before shooting
 off emails like some dummy bot or parakeet.



>
>
> --
> Senthil
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



-- 
--Anand

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Thu May 13 09:25:37 2010
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 12:55:37 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] i need to learn lamp stack ?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik8b_BMjfXDiKXRGeL-KFvXagr1lJhJiHO9K9lF@mail.gmail.com>
References: <s2l927ff73d1005071038za451cb2boad56a248823eb37e@mail.gmail.com>
	<201005131217.57967.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
	<AANLkTik8b_BMjfXDiKXRGeL-KFvXagr1lJhJiHO9K9lF@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201005131255.37386.lawgon@au-kbc.org>

On Thursday 13 May 2010 12:31:46 Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote:
> > some stupid guy - I gave a detailed reply on the ilugc list - then he
> > went ahead and installed ubuntu something and was looking for some button
> > to press
> > to start the lamp stack.
> 
>  I can't believe it. Someone so stupid trying to play with Linux and open
>  source ?
> 

believe it. It all depends on where one is coming from. A dotnet guy is told 
that LAMP stack is the greatest thing since the invention of the masala dosai, 
he immediately looks for buttons to press. Something similar happened to me 
once - some years ago when integrating a payment portal, the code was given to 
me in php. I could figure out more or less what it meant and rewrite it in 
python. For some stuff I had to run the php code. Naturally I could not ask 
anyone, so like a good cgi programmer, I put the php file in cgi-bin, made it 
executable and tried to run it. I spend a full day tweaking apache (since my 
interpreter had php4 installed and this file had a php3 extension). But 
whatever I tried I could not get the thing to run. I finally had to go over to 
a friends place and ask him to run the code.
-- 
Regards
Kenneth Gonsalves
Senior Associate
NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC

From steve at lonetwin.net  Thu May 13 11:00:48 2010
From: steve at lonetwin.net (steve)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 14:30:48 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] i need to learn lamp stack ?
In-Reply-To: <201005131255.37386.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
References: <s2l927ff73d1005071038za451cb2boad56a248823eb37e@mail.gmail.com>	<201005131217.57967.lawgon@au-kbc.org>	<AANLkTik8b_BMjfXDiKXRGeL-KFvXagr1lJhJiHO9K9lF@mail.gmail.com>
	<201005131255.37386.lawgon@au-kbc.org>
Message-ID: <4BEBBFC0.2060104@lonetwin.net>

On 05/13/2010 12:55 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> On Thursday 13 May 2010 12:31:46 Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote:
>>  >  some stupid guy - I gave a detailed reply on the ilugc list - then he
>>  >  went ahead and installed ubuntu something and was looking for some button
>>  >  to press
>>  >  to start the lamp stack.
>>
>>   I can't believe it. Someone so stupid trying to play with Linux and open
>>   source ?
>>
>
> believe it. It all depends on where one is coming from. A dotnet guy is told
> that LAMP stack is the greatest thing since the invention of the masala dosai,
> he immediately looks for buttons to press.
Heh, but to be fair, this works the other direction too. Every time I have to 
configure or run something on a windoze box I think in terms of config files or 
running cli commands and only later think about looking for pointy-clickly 
interfaces.

:-)

cheers,
- steve
-- 
random spiel: http://lonetwin.net/
what i'm stumbling into: http://lonetwin.stumbleupon.com/

From gvkalra at gmail.com  Sat May 15 09:38:17 2010
From: gvkalra at gmail.com (Gaurav Kalra)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 13:08:17 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] python - print spooling monitoring
Message-ID: <AANLkTinhpeYUsnwkUIM72zZIR5HjtghQMN9KkjVak7d_@mail.gmail.com>

Hi. I need some help for the following scenario.
A process that keeps on monitoring the print spooler ..... when u try to
spool something, it asks for ur details like name, number etc., save them
along with the number of pages u printed and prints only when u provide the
same .... (nice stuff for public pc's where u need to make an entry into the
register after printing) ...... how wud i make this abstract view tangible
?? .... plz show a road to start on ...

one reply that i have got is:
U need to wrap the print service with your program and make programs that
want to communicate with the driver through your own service.

i am fairly new to python.

hope to hear from the group.

From orsenthil at gmail.com  Sat May 15 17:14:13 2010
From: orsenthil at gmail.com (Senthil Kumaran)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 20:44:13 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] python - print spooling monitoring
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinhpeYUsnwkUIM72zZIR5HjtghQMN9KkjVak7d_@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinhpeYUsnwkUIM72zZIR5HjtghQMN9KkjVak7d_@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100515151413.GA4010@remy>

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 01:08:17PM +0530, Gaurav Kalra wrote:
> Hi. I need some help for the following scenario.
> A process that keeps on monitoring the print spooler ..... when u try to
> spool something, it asks for ur details like name, number etc., save them
> along with the number of pages u printed and prints only when u provide the
> same .... (nice stuff for public pc's where u need to make an entry into the
> register after printing) ...... how wud i make this abstract view tangible
> ?? .... plz show a road to start on ...

You might want to split your requirement into more tangible and
defined items for your programing solution.

- If you need a monitoring service. First try write a small monitoring
  service. Active state cookbook has some recipes.
- If you need to wrap a system executable using Python. Write a python
  function which wraps that system executable. E.g. is if you want to
  wrap 'ls and its options' you write a function like 
  def listdir(dir, *options) and then inside the function construct
  the ls command and pass it subprocess module. This is just a crude
  definition. YMMV.
- Try to combine these two steps and see if that is your desired
  result. If not, rinse and repeat.

HTH,

-- 
Senthil

  Thank God I'm an atheist.

From gvkalra at gmail.com  Mon May 17 21:12:01 2010
From: gvkalra at gmail.com (Gaurav Kalra)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 00:42:01 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] BangPypers Digest, Vol 33, Issue 21
In-Reply-To: <mailman.11.1274004002.26870.bangpypers@python.org>
References: <mailman.11.1274004002.26870.bangpypers@python.org>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimRhNBaZiquiSNK1c0HrwXQHFE-pTHdMsaMrV19@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Senthil,
I'll work upon that

If am not wrong, are you the same SK as on gre-success ?? ...... Small
World! :-)

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> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 01:08:17PM +0530, Gaurav Kalra wrote:
>> Hi. I need some help for the following scenario.
>> A process that keeps on monitoring the print spooler ..... when u try to
>> spool something, it asks for ur details like name, number etc., save them
>> along with the number of pages u printed and prints only when u provide
>> the
>> same .... (nice stuff for public pc's where u need to make an entry into
>> the
>> register after printing) ...... how wud i make this abstract view tangible
>> ?? .... plz show a road to start on ...
>
> You might want to split your requirement into more tangible and
> defined items for your programing solution.
>
> - If you need a monitoring service. First try write a small monitoring
>   service. Active state cookbook has some recipes.
> - If you need to wrap a system executable using Python. Write a python
>   function which wraps that system executable. E.g. is if you want to
>   wrap 'ls and its options' you write a function like
>   def listdir(dir, *options) and then inside the function construct
>   the ls command and pass it subprocess module. This is just a crude
>   definition. YMMV.
> - Try to combine these two steps and see if that is your desired
>   result. If not, rinse and repeat.
>
> HTH,
>
> --
> Senthil
>
>   Thank God I'm an atheist.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
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> ******************************************
>


-- 
--
With Thanks
Gaurav Kalra
gvkalra at googlemail.com

From vinayakh at gmail.com  Tue May 18 11:57:58 2010
From: vinayakh at gmail.com (Vinayak Hegde)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 15:27:58 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] @dabeaz visiting b'lore
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilE_hGHJq-dHHMRoc2hSzgzbhOLxAxXkDMhhL04@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinkY2eRfsmQDgwdcIJsYdqyIkSDTpTa8ga8pIWC@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTilMG-o0G6UF-TJNVlDJAgtooBJZMeYIgm0c1gCE@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTilAgoWVZz9WvrOvJK3gOSUa4X_CuxLPWrmRKVxa@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTilE_hGHJq-dHHMRoc2hSzgzbhOLxAxXkDMhhL04@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin7uZc_n4_GpS58DnjEDzbrcERu3AWa-6D0dTwu@mail.gmail.com>

Did this meet happen. Slides / comments on the meet ?

-- Vinayak

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 6:27 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
> 2nd floor. Prestige Loka. Tandberg technologies india. It's on brunton
> road. You can't miss it. Same building as red hat.
>
> On 5/10/10, Vishal <vsapre80 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> +1 for this venue.
>>
>> its very close to my workplace as well.
>>
>> Noufal, can you send us your cell, so we can contact you once we reach the
>> venue Prestige Loka
>> Otherwise, just let us know where to reach in the building.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The list archives will have it. I don't have complete access to the
>>> net right now.
>>>
>>> On 5/10/10, Dhaval Sharma <dhavalsharma at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > Can you share the venue again as I have recently joined the group and
>>> must
>>> > have missed previous email?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > With Warm Regards,
>>> > @dhavalsharma
>>> > http://dsteps.blogspot.com
>>> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/dhavalsharma
>>> > http://carpoolkaro.appspot.com
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > BangPypers mailing list
>>> > BangPypers at python.org
>>> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> ~noufal
>>> http://nibrahim.net.in
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> BangPypers mailing list
>>> BangPypers at python.org
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thanks and best regards,
>> Vishal Sapre
>>
>> ---
>> "So say...Day by day, in every way, I am getting better, better and better
>> !!!"
>> "A Strong and Positive attitude creates more miracles than anything else.
>> Because...Life is 10% how you make it, and 90% how you take it"
>> "Diamond is another piece of coal that did well under pressure?
>> "May we do good and not evil. May we find forgiveness for ourself and
>> forgive others. May we share freely, never taking more than we give."
>> _______________________________________________
>> BangPypers mailing list
>> BangPypers at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>>
>
>
> --
> ~noufal
> http://nibrahim.net.in
> _______________________________________________
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From noufal at gmail.com  Tue May 18 12:33:18 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 16:03:18 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] @dabeaz visiting b'lore
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin7uZc_n4_GpS58DnjEDzbrcERu3AWa-6D0dTwu@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinkY2eRfsmQDgwdcIJsYdqyIkSDTpTa8ga8pIWC@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTilMG-o0G6UF-TJNVlDJAgtooBJZMeYIgm0c1gCE@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTilAgoWVZz9WvrOvJK3gOSUa4X_CuxLPWrmRKVxa@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTilE_hGHJq-dHHMRoc2hSzgzbhOLxAxXkDMhhL04@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTin7uZc_n4_GpS58DnjEDzbrcERu3AWa-6D0dTwu@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinix3Be-MAwXFjE3XkGCttp1c3zHL4Q-F-eYGYS@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Vinayak Hegde <vinayakh at gmail.com> wrote:
> Did this meet happen.

Yes it did.

> Slides

No presentations/slides.

>  / comments on the meet ?

It was very general. More of a fun evening rather than a hardcore
discussion. I quite enjoyed it.




-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From srp at ideadevice.com  Fri May 21 07:33:47 2010
From: srp at ideadevice.com (Saju Pillai)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 11:03:47 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Weekly meeting - IIMB - New Venue
Message-ID: <AANLkTinxmlWcUjo-ppV9zdIYIkCqHJetBuPvVLNN0JPh@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

 Idea Device is a startup based in NSRCEL, IIM-B. We develop products in the
IT/Data Center automation space.  We use Python extensively in our products
& therefore have a major interest in seeing a flourishing, *independent*,
Python community in Bangalore/India.  To this end we would like to offer a
formal meeting place for the Monthly bangpyper meetups as well as one-off
Python community meetings as they happen. Idea Device & NSRCEL,IIM-B would
like to provide the following to the bangpypers community:

1. Free access to a 20 -30(squeeze) seater conference/meeting room with OHP
for monthly meetings and one-offs
2. Free Internet access during the meetings

There are multiple coffee shops in the campus including a CCD next door
suitable for break-out sessions.

Do consider IIM-B as a candidate venue for your meetings. We will be happy
to host you.

regards
srp
-- 
Idea Device
Automation Technologies
www.ideadevice.com
+91 9945196516

From mbaiju at zeomega.com  Fri May 21 07:51:02 2010
From: mbaiju at zeomega.com (Baiju M)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 11:21:02 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Weekly meeting - IIMB - New Venue
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinxmlWcUjo-ppV9zdIYIkCqHJetBuPvVLNN0JPh@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinxmlWcUjo-ppV9zdIYIkCqHJetBuPvVLNN0JPh@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinEhHbs3tLsJr9ZOgMokmQN-Cukj0w9vf_ajIkm@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Saju Pillai <srp at ideadevice.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> ?Idea Device is a startup based in NSRCEL, IIM-B. We develop products in the
> IT/Data Center automation space. ?We use Python extensively in our products
> & therefore have a major interest in seeing a flourishing, *independent*,
> Python community in Bangalore/India. ?To this end we would like to offer a
> formal meeting place for the Monthly bangpyper meetups as well as one-off
> Python community meetings as they happen. Idea Device & NSRCEL,IIM-B would
> like to provide the following to the bangpypers community:
>
> 1. Free access to a 20 -30(squeeze) seater conference/meeting room with OHP
> for monthly meetings and one-offs
> 2. Free Internet access during the meetings
>
> There are multiple coffee shops in the campus including a CCD next door
> suitable for break-out sessions.
>
> Do consider IIM-B as a candidate venue for your meetings. We will be happy
> to host you.

Thanks Saju for the offering.  I think we should try different locations
for meetings.  BTW, I am happy with TW office as the venue.

Regards,
Baiju M

From noufal at gmail.com  Fri May 21 08:15:48 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 11:45:48 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Weekly meeting - IIMB - New Venue
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinEhHbs3tLsJr9ZOgMokmQN-Cukj0w9vf_ajIkm@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinxmlWcUjo-ppV9zdIYIkCqHJetBuPvVLNN0JPh@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinEhHbs3tLsJr9ZOgMokmQN-Cukj0w9vf_ajIkm@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinFOxNq3-6UNo2Pj3DBJMLbeWF0agxnAahcICXN@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Baiju M <mbaiju at zeomega.com> wrote:
[..]
> Thanks Saju for the offering. ?I think we should try different locations
> for meetings. ?BTW, I am happy with TW office as the venue.

+1. I like the idea of multiple venues. Also, Python meetings at a
Python company is a good thing. :)



-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From murty_murty at yahoo.com  Fri May 21 09:23:15 2010
From: murty_murty at yahoo.com (M.V.Ramana Murty)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 00:23:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [BangPypers] [JOB Postnging !]
Message-ID: <438127.58968.qm@web52104.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Dear All, ?This is a job Posting for our company. 
We need a 2 developers with 3-5 yrs experience in Python, Zope/Django,? Javascript, JQuery and?MySQL. Exposure to PHP& Zend Framework will be advantageious. The Intrested, please get back to me ASAP at murty.mvr at utthunga.com. The position is based out of bangalore and may involve oveseas travel initially
?
?
Best Regards
Murty

?B A N G A L O R E 
==================



      

From venkat83 at gmail.com  Fri May 21 09:28:22 2010
From: venkat83 at gmail.com (Venkatraman S)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 12:58:22 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [JOB Postnging !]
In-Reply-To: <438127.58968.qm@web52104.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <438127.58968.qm@web52104.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim-g2fFoJk_3HQNgBp48op3SRSiMERhx0pz6qMs@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 12:53 PM, M.V.Ramana Murty <murty_murty at yahoo.com>wrote:

> We need a 2 developers with 3-5 yrs experience in Python, Zope/Django,
> Javascript, JQuery and MySQL. Exposure to PHP& Zend Framework will be
> advantageious.
>

Neat!!

From abpillai at gmail.com  Fri May 21 11:50:29 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 15:20:29 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Weekly meeting - IIMB - New Venue
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinxmlWcUjo-ppV9zdIYIkCqHJetBuPvVLNN0JPh@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinxmlWcUjo-ppV9zdIYIkCqHJetBuPvVLNN0JPh@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimSAoFGGbrBERDXQhbj1HT3f2s0iKwjeKEZUpe4@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Saju Pillai <srp at ideadevice.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
>  Idea Device is a startup based in NSRCEL, IIM-B. We develop products in
> the
> IT/Data Center automation space.  We use Python extensively in our products
> & therefore have a major interest in seeing a flourishing, *independent*,
> Python community in Bangalore/India.  To this end we would like to offer a
> formal meeting place for the Monthly bangpyper meetups as well as one-off
> Python community meetings as they happen. Idea Device & NSRCEL,IIM-B would
> like to provide the following to the bangpypers community:
>
> 1. Free access to a 20 -30(squeeze) seater conference/meeting room with OHP
> for monthly meetings and one-offs
> 2. Free Internet access during the meetings
>
> There are multiple coffee shops in the campus including a CCD next door
> suitable for break-out sessions.
>
> Do consider IIM-B as a candidate venue for your meetings. We will be happy
> to host you.
>

Thanks for the offer. IIM-B would be a cool place to meet up for sure.
Apart from the fact that it is a bit far away for some of us, I think
the other options are pretty good.

We can use IIM-B as a fallback for larger meetups where
presentations are required. For our regular meetings we
rely on ThoughtWorks - it has been a great arrangement
for quite some time.


>
> regards
> srp
> --
> Idea Device
> Automation Technologies
> www.ideadevice.com
> +91 9945196516
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



-- 
--Anand

From scorpion032 at gmail.com  Fri May 21 17:56:23 2010
From: scorpion032 at gmail.com (Lakshman Prasad)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 21:26:23 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Weekly meeting - IIMB - New Venue
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimSAoFGGbrBERDXQhbj1HT3f2s0iKwjeKEZUpe4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinxmlWcUjo-ppV9zdIYIkCqHJetBuPvVLNN0JPh@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimSAoFGGbrBERDXQhbj1HT3f2s0iKwjeKEZUpe4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikcvUArrFBvxe28PhsjxiUZ30l-JJlWsVMWM_V7@mail.gmail.com>

Speaking of which, I am wondering if there is a meeting this weekend?

Or any in the next weekend?

On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai <
abpillai at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Saju Pillai <srp at ideadevice.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> >  Idea Device is a startup based in NSRCEL, IIM-B. We develop products in
> > the
> > IT/Data Center automation space.  We use Python extensively in our
> products
> > & therefore have a major interest in seeing a flourishing, *independent*,
> > Python community in Bangalore/India.  To this end we would like to offer
> a
> > formal meeting place for the Monthly bangpyper meetups as well as one-off
> > Python community meetings as they happen. Idea Device & NSRCEL,IIM-B
> would
> > like to provide the following to the bangpypers community:
> >
> > 1. Free access to a 20 -30(squeeze) seater conference/meeting room with
> OHP
> > for monthly meetings and one-offs
> > 2. Free Internet access during the meetings
> >
> > There are multiple coffee shops in the campus including a CCD next door
> > suitable for break-out sessions.
> >
> > Do consider IIM-B as a candidate venue for your meetings. We will be
> happy
> > to host you.
> >
>
> Thanks for the offer. IIM-B would be a cool place to meet up for sure.
> Apart from the fact that it is a bit far away for some of us, I think
> the other options are pretty good.
>
> We can use IIM-B as a fallback for larger meetups where
> presentations are required. For our regular meetings we
> rely on ThoughtWorks - it has been a great arrangement
> for quite some time.
>
>
> >
> > regards
> > srp
> > --
> > Idea Device
> > Automation Technologies
> > www.ideadevice.com
> > +91 9945196516
> > _______________________________________________
> > BangPypers mailing list
> > BangPypers at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
> >
>
>
>
> --
> --Anand
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>

From noufal at gmail.com  Fri May 21 18:04:56 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 21:34:56 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Weekly meeting - IIMB - New Venue
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikcvUArrFBvxe28PhsjxiUZ30l-JJlWsVMWM_V7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinxmlWcUjo-ppV9zdIYIkCqHJetBuPvVLNN0JPh@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimSAoFGGbrBERDXQhbj1HT3f2s0iKwjeKEZUpe4@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikcvUArrFBvxe28PhsjxiUZ30l-JJlWsVMWM_V7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilm1YH4EN89rBcPphl0vTCsfvP3K8CirrqBs5EX@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Lakshman Prasad <scorpion032 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Speaking of which, I am wondering if there is a meeting this weekend?
>
> Or any in the next weekend?

There have been no plans discussed yet. I guess the meeting with
Dabeaz with this month's gathering. However, if there's interest, we
can do one next weekend. Any talks/topics?

-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From scorpion032 at gmail.com  Fri May 21 19:00:39 2010
From: scorpion032 at gmail.com (Lakshman Prasad)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 22:30:39 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Weekly meeting - IIMB - New Venue
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilm1YH4EN89rBcPphl0vTCsfvP3K8CirrqBs5EX@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinxmlWcUjo-ppV9zdIYIkCqHJetBuPvVLNN0JPh@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimSAoFGGbrBERDXQhbj1HT3f2s0iKwjeKEZUpe4@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikcvUArrFBvxe28PhsjxiUZ30l-JJlWsVMWM_V7@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTilm1YH4EN89rBcPphl0vTCsfvP3K8CirrqBs5EX@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTino9Nbf7rjptnX7flefSVcIMwq6TKvGXTYSfOjG@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for the information. I am interested if there is one in the next
weekend.

+1 (Thats how we express interest right? ;) )


On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 9:34 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Lakshman Prasad <scorpion032 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Speaking of which, I am wondering if there is a meeting this weekend?
> >
> > Or any in the next weekend?
>
> There have been no plans discussed yet. I guess the meeting with
> Dabeaz with this month's gathering. However, if there's interest, we
> can do one next weekend. Any talks/topics?
>
> --
> ~noufal
> http://nibrahim.net.in
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>

From rahul8590 at gmail.com  Sun May 23 21:21:17 2010
From: rahul8590 at gmail.com (Rahul R)
Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 23:21:17 +0400
Subject: [BangPypers] python for parsing
Message-ID: <AANLkTim4noTCVWPQouYVT9l5NSFaFjLQOvsuC3PZFA9a@mail.gmail.com>

Hello everyone ,
I am new to this community . recently i attended a python workshop in my
college and got a lot mesmerised by the language so finally decided to port
my mini project which i have partially written using LEX and Yacc into
python. i would be glad if you could provide me some valuable suggestions on
how to go about doing so.


Thanking You
Rahul

From noufal at gmail.com  Sun May 23 21:28:38 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 00:58:38 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] python for parsing
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim4noTCVWPQouYVT9l5NSFaFjLQOvsuC3PZFA9a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim4noTCVWPQouYVT9l5NSFaFjLQOvsuC3PZFA9a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimU4ou0H6aGY_vV7RBt3DnEFY2IBLQGry9HfPq4@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 12:51 AM, Rahul R <rahul8590 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello everyone ,
> I am new to this community . recently i attended a python workshop in my
> college and got a lot mesmerised by the language so finally decided to port
> my mini project which i have partially written using LEX and Yacc into
> python. i would be glad if you could provide me some valuable suggestions on
> how to go about doing so.

there are literally tons of options - Here's a good list -
http://nedbatchelder.com/text/python-parsers.html

I've had good experiences with the SPARK
http://pages.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~aycock/spark/ library.  Very Pythonic.
None of the Yacc/Lex boilerplate.




-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From dhananjay.nene at gmail.com  Sun May 23 22:00:36 2010
From: dhananjay.nene at gmail.com (Dhananjay Nene)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 01:30:36 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] python for parsing
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim4noTCVWPQouYVT9l5NSFaFjLQOvsuC3PZFA9a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim4noTCVWPQouYVT9l5NSFaFjLQOvsuC3PZFA9a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTintFFptObMlWgigNiAmcJkPSvS_qwRpkzdnIE72@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 12:51 AM, Rahul R <rahul8590 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone ,
> I am new to this community . recently i attended a python workshop in my
> college and got a lot mesmerised by the language so finally decided to port
> my mini project which i have partially written using LEX and Yacc into
> python. i would be glad if you could provide me some valuable suggestions
> on
> how to go about doing so.
>
> I had once found pyparsing http://pyparsing.wikispaces.com/ quite nice
though I used it in a casual experiment.

I had documented my usage here :
http://codeblog.dhananjaynene.com/2010/01/extracting-data-using-recursive-descent-parsing/which
hopefully should indicate how its usage is in many ways far simpler
than traditional lex/yacc one.

Dhananjay

>
> Thanking You
> Rahul
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



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From rahul8590 at gmail.com  Sun May 23 22:32:50 2010
From: rahul8590 at gmail.com (Rahul R)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 00:32:50 +0400
Subject: [BangPypers] python for parsing
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTintFFptObMlWgigNiAmcJkPSvS_qwRpkzdnIE72@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim4noTCVWPQouYVT9l5NSFaFjLQOvsuC3PZFA9a@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTintFFptObMlWgigNiAmcJkPSvS_qwRpkzdnIE72@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinZle7Mq3iMJ3osE8CRC6mlHW6BKuZjRJwfohCW@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 12:00 AM, Dhananjay Nene
<dhananjay.nene at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 12:51 AM, Rahul R <rahul8590 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello everyone ,
> > I am new to this community . recently i attended a python workshop in my
> > college and got a lot mesmerised by the language so finally decided to
> port
> > my mini project which i have partially written using LEX and Yacc into
> > python. i would be glad if you could provide me some valuable suggestions
> > on
> > how to go about doing so.
> >
> > I had once found pyparsing http://pyparsing.wikispaces.com/ quite nice
> though I used it in a casual experiment.
>
> I had documented my usage here :
>
> http://codeblog.dhananjaynene.com/2010/01/extracting-data-using-recursive-descent-parsing/which
> hopefully should indicate how its usage is in many ways far simpler
> than traditional lex/yacc one.
>
> Dhananjay
>
>
>
Thanks   Dhananjay & Noufal , now i have tons of options. But then again i
am trying to find the most suitable one for my program.
Well basically what i am trying to achieve is to create my own syntax
(reasonably simple ) which will help the user to write simple HTML ( +CSS
hopefully) pages without actually coding any of it .

i.e for example

if the user writes

this is heading
============          -->  { the '=' would be a token for headers }

the rest paragraph


the equivalent html generated could be

<h1>  this is heading  </h1>
<p> the rest paragraph </p>

besides i am also trying to incorporate inline CSS and other basic
functualities .

From kunal.t2 at gmail.com  Mon May 24 03:02:09 2010
From: kunal.t2 at gmail.com (kunal ghosh)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 06:32:09 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] python for parsing
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinZle7Mq3iMJ3osE8CRC6mlHW6BKuZjRJwfohCW@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim4noTCVWPQouYVT9l5NSFaFjLQOvsuC3PZFA9a@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTintFFptObMlWgigNiAmcJkPSvS_qwRpkzdnIE72@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinZle7Mq3iMJ3osE8CRC6mlHW6BKuZjRJwfohCW@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim9YDfbBewzj920kZFFx-6IKkIfzQ_p5X0R8wtR@mail.gmail.com>

Hi, Rahul
It looks like you are trying to create an abstraction above the HTML+JS etc.
Have you looked at pyjamas pyjs.org ?
Though GWT uses java for the same thing.

On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 2:02 AM, Rahul R <rahul8590 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 12:00 AM, Dhananjay Nene
> <dhananjay.nene at gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 12:51 AM, Rahul R <rahul8590 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello everyone ,
> > > I am new to this community . recently i attended a python workshop in
> my
> > > college and got a lot mesmerised by the language so finally decided to
> > port
> > > my mini project which i have partially written using LEX and Yacc into
> > > python. i would be glad if you could provide me some valuable
> suggestions
> > > on
> > > how to go about doing so.
> > >
> > > I had once found pyparsing http://pyparsing.wikispaces.com/ quite nice
> > though I used it in a casual experiment.
> >
> > I had documented my usage here :
> >
> >
> http://codeblog.dhananjaynene.com/2010/01/extracting-data-using-recursive-descent-parsing/which
> > hopefully should indicate how its usage is in many ways far simpler
> > than traditional lex/yacc one.
> >
> > Dhananjay
> >
> >
> >
> Thanks   Dhananjay & Noufal , now i have tons of options. But then again i
> am trying to find the most suitable one for my program.
> Well basically what i am trying to achieve is to create my own syntax
> (reasonably simple ) which will help the user to write simple HTML ( +CSS
> hopefully) pages without actually coding any of it .
>
> i.e for example
>
> if the user writes
>
> this is heading
> ============          -->  { the '=' would be a token for headers }
>
> the rest paragraph
>
>
> the equivalent html generated could be
>
> <h1>  this is heading  </h1>
> <p> the rest paragraph </p>
>
> besides i am also trying to incorporate inline CSS and other basic
> functualities .
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



-- 
regards
-------
Kunal Ghosh
Dept of Computer Sc. & Engineering.
Sir MVIT
Bangalore,India

Blog:kunalghosh.wordpress.com
Website:www.kunalghosh.net46.net

From rahul8590 at gmail.com  Mon May 24 08:36:43 2010
From: rahul8590 at gmail.com (Rahul R)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 10:36:43 +0400
Subject: [BangPypers] python for parsing
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim9YDfbBewzj920kZFFx-6IKkIfzQ_p5X0R8wtR@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim4noTCVWPQouYVT9l5NSFaFjLQOvsuC3PZFA9a@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTintFFptObMlWgigNiAmcJkPSvS_qwRpkzdnIE72@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinZle7Mq3iMJ3osE8CRC6mlHW6BKuZjRJwfohCW@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTim9YDfbBewzj920kZFFx-6IKkIfzQ_p5X0R8wtR@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTineiyvbUhxNCHOXeGTkuY3MMnUvj6ovTCZ5UN6n@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Kunal , i am happy as well as sad  , happy because my job has become
much simpler and sad because everytime i think of a novel (honeslty ) idea
.. i see someone else has already executed it .. :(

On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 5:02 AM, kunal ghosh <kunal.t2 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi, Rahul
> It looks like you are trying to create an abstraction above the HTML+JS
> etc.
> Have you looked at pyjamas pyjs.org ?
> Though GWT uses java for the same thing.
>
> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 2:02 AM, Rahul R <rahul8590 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 12:00 AM, Dhananjay Nene
> > <dhananjay.nene at gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 12:51 AM, Rahul R <rahul8590 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello everyone ,
> > > > I am new to this community . recently i attended a python workshop in
> > my
> > > > college and got a lot mesmerised by the language so finally decided
> to
> > > port
> > > > my mini project which i have partially written using LEX and Yacc
> into
> > > > python. i would be glad if you could provide me some valuable
> > suggestions
> > > > on
> > > > how to go about doing so.
> > > >
> > > > I had once found pyparsing http://pyparsing.wikispaces.com/ quite
> nice
> > > though I used it in a casual experiment.
> > >
> > > I had documented my usage here :
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://codeblog.dhananjaynene.com/2010/01/extracting-data-using-recursive-descent-parsing/which
> > > hopefully should indicate how its usage is in many ways far simpler
> > > than traditional lex/yacc one.
> > >
> > > Dhananjay
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > Thanks   Dhananjay & Noufal , now i have tons of options. But then again
> i
> > am trying to find the most suitable one for my program.
> > Well basically what i am trying to achieve is to create my own syntax
> > (reasonably simple ) which will help the user to write simple HTML ( +CSS
> > hopefully) pages without actually coding any of it .
> >
> > i.e for example
> >
> > if the user writes
> >
> > this is heading
> > ============          -->  { the '=' would be a token for headers }
> >
> > the rest paragraph
> >
> >
> > the equivalent html generated could be
> >
> > <h1>  this is heading  </h1>
> > <p> the rest paragraph </p>
> >
> > besides i am also trying to incorporate inline CSS and other basic
> > functualities .
> > _______________________________________________
> > BangPypers mailing list
> > BangPypers at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
> >
>
>
>
> --
> regards
> -------
> Kunal Ghosh
> Dept of Computer Sc. & Engineering.
> Sir MVIT
> Bangalore,India
>
> Blog:kunalghosh.wordpress.com
> Website:www.kunalghosh.net46.net
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>

From noufal at gmail.com  Mon May 24 08:40:59 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 12:10:59 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] python for parsing
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTineiyvbUhxNCHOXeGTkuY3MMnUvj6ovTCZ5UN6n@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim4noTCVWPQouYVT9l5NSFaFjLQOvsuC3PZFA9a@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTintFFptObMlWgigNiAmcJkPSvS_qwRpkzdnIE72@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinZle7Mq3iMJ3osE8CRC6mlHW6BKuZjRJwfohCW@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTim9YDfbBewzj920kZFFx-6IKkIfzQ_p5X0R8wtR@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTineiyvbUhxNCHOXeGTkuY3MMnUvj6ovTCZ5UN6n@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilj17egkho5aXEE_Gam05wsNCh_zj6qxi8uhf3y@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Rahul R <rahul8590 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Kunal , i am happy as well as sad ?, happy because my job has become
> much simpler and sad because everytime i think of a novel (honeslty ) idea
> .. i see someone else has already executed it .. :(

There are still lots of things to do. Read the other code and learn
from it, perhaps implement your own thing and compare it with the
other to see if there are things to learn. Reinventing the wheel is
usually pointless but as an educational experience, I think it's nice.



-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From vsapre80 at gmail.com  Mon May 24 12:56:28 2010
From: vsapre80 at gmail.com (Vishal)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 16:26:28 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] python for parsing
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilj17egkho5aXEE_Gam05wsNCh_zj6qxi8uhf3y@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim4noTCVWPQouYVT9l5NSFaFjLQOvsuC3PZFA9a@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTintFFptObMlWgigNiAmcJkPSvS_qwRpkzdnIE72@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTinZle7Mq3iMJ3osE8CRC6mlHW6BKuZjRJwfohCW@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTim9YDfbBewzj920kZFFx-6IKkIfzQ_p5X0R8wtR@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTineiyvbUhxNCHOXeGTkuY3MMnUvj6ovTCZ5UN6n@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTilj17egkho5aXEE_Gam05wsNCh_zj6qxi8uhf3y@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTil-WHyEANEgRGQGIru9e16SgODPBym-YG6HE7IO@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Rahul,

Not sure if you'd be interested, however, david beazly who was here a couple
of weeks back, has a straight forward implementation of Lex and Yacc in
Python named: PLY : http://www.dabeaz.com/ply/index.html
See if this interests you. This might be easier for the porting part, and
then adding other stuff over this can be continued in Python.

Vishal



On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Rahul R <rahul8590 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Thanks Kunal , i am happy as well as sad  , happy because my job has
> become
> > much simpler and sad because everytime i think of a novel (honeslty )
> idea
> > .. i see someone else has already executed it .. :(
>
> There are still lots of things to do. Read the other code and learn
> from it, perhaps implement your own thing and compare it with the
> other to see if there are things to learn. Reinventing the wheel is
> usually pointless but as an educational experience, I think it's nice.
>
>
>
> --
> ~noufal
> http://nibrahim.net.in
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



-- 
Thanks and best regards,
Vishal Sapre

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!!!"
"A Strong and Positive attitude creates more miracles than anything else.
Because...Life is 10% how you make it, and 90% how you take it"
"Diamond is another piece of coal that did well under pressure?
"May we do good and not evil. May we find forgiveness for ourself and
forgive others. May we share freely, never taking more than we give."

From eknath.iyer at gmail.com  Mon May 24 15:43:26 2010
From: eknath.iyer at gmail.com (Eknath Venkataramani)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 19:13:26 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] extracting unicode text from pdfs
Message-ID: <AANLkTinr0T9j6fscwqhLlO4qL9fsBXMvw8QWiJmaWy9p@mail.gmail.com>

I have around 45 pdfs to convert into raw text containing text in _HINDI_ .
When I use the xpdf package, the generated text is very weird, so I'd like
to write a program which would convert the pdf text into Unicode text as it
is.

The fonts used in the pdfs:
name                                   type              emb sub uni object
ID
------------------------------------ ----------------- --- --- --- ---------
APKAPP+Usha-Bold                     Type 1C           yes yes yes     72  0
APKBBB+Agenda-Light                  Type 1C           yes yes yes     77  0
APKBGF+Usha                          Type 1C           yes yes yes     41  0
APKBKJ+Agenda-Medium                 Type 1C           yes yes yes     46  0
APKBON+Agenda-Bold                   Type 1C           yes yes yes     49  0

For eg. in the pdf: ???? ??????? ??
              when I use pdftotext, I get some very weird symbols: '...
.......'
             while i'd like '???? ??????? ??' to be the output


-- 
Eknath Venkataramani

From dhananjay.nene at gmail.com  Mon May 24 16:21:57 2010
From: dhananjay.nene at gmail.com (Dhananjay Nene)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 19:51:57 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] extracting unicode text from pdfs
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinr0T9j6fscwqhLlO4qL9fsBXMvw8QWiJmaWy9p@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinr0T9j6fscwqhLlO4qL9fsBXMvw8QWiJmaWy9p@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinfypAykXzJgITqdsFueWjGDq5Q2qAZoihQGQ98@mail.gmail.com>

You may want to try out pdfminer. Its very similar to xpdf in structure and
should give you the parsed data into unicode directly.

On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Eknath Venkataramani <eknath.iyer at gmail.com
> wrote:

> I have around 45 pdfs to convert into raw text containing text in _HINDI_ .
> When I use the xpdf package, the generated text is very weird, so I'd like
> to write a program which would convert the pdf text into Unicode text as it
> is.
>
> The fonts used in the pdfs:
> name                                   type              emb sub uni object
> ID
> ------------------------------------ ----------------- --- --- ---
> ---------
> APKAPP+Usha-Bold                     Type 1C           yes yes yes     72
>  0
> APKBBB+Agenda-Light                  Type 1C           yes yes yes     77
>  0
> APKBGF+Usha                          Type 1C           yes yes yes     41
>  0
> APKBKJ+Agenda-Medium                 Type 1C           yes yes yes     46
>  0
> APKBON+Agenda-Bold                   Type 1C           yes yes yes     49
>  0
>
> For eg. in the pdf: ???? ??????? ??
>              when I use pdftotext, I get some very weird symbols: '...
> .......'
>             while i'd like '???? ??????? ??' to be the output
>
>
> --
> Eknath Venkataramani
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



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From gora at srijan.in  Mon May 24 17:08:04 2010
From: gora at srijan.in (Gora Mohanty)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 20:38:04 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] extracting unicode text from pdfs
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinr0T9j6fscwqhLlO4qL9fsBXMvw8QWiJmaWy9p@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinr0T9j6fscwqhLlO4qL9fsBXMvw8QWiJmaWy9p@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100524203804.55406a18@ibis>

On Mon, 24 May 2010 19:13:26 +0530
Eknath Venkataramani <eknath.iyer at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have around 45 pdfs to convert into raw text containing text in
> _HINDI_ . When I use the xpdf package, the generated text is very
> weird, so I'd like to write a program which would convert the pdf
> text into Unicode text as it is.

Probably because xpdf does not have the fonts available. Are these
installed on your system?

> The fonts used in the pdfs:
[...]
APKAPP+Usha-Bold 
[...]

Are you sure that these are indeed Unicode fonts, as your table
seems to suggest? Would it be possible to share a PDF, or a page
or two from one?

Regards,
Gora

From eknath.iyer at gmail.com  Mon May 24 17:15:45 2010
From: eknath.iyer at gmail.com (Eknath Venkataramani)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 20:45:45 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] extracting unicode text from pdfs
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinfypAykXzJgITqdsFueWjGDq5Q2qAZoihQGQ98@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinr0T9j6fscwqhLlO4qL9fsBXMvw8QWiJmaWy9p@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinfypAykXzJgITqdsFueWjGDq5Q2qAZoihQGQ98@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinNrtIA4kAdExyteoGWjugUHWh105gr7YWvp4fI@mail.gmail.com>

Tried .. didn't work out well enough. The output is same as what I get out
of xpdf

On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Dhananjay Nene <dhananjay.nene at gmail.com>wrote:

> You may want to try out pdfminer. Its very similar to xpdf in structure and
> should give you the parsed data into unicode directly.
>
> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Eknath Venkataramani <
> eknath.iyer at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> > I have around 45 pdfs to convert into raw text containing text in _HINDI_
> .
> > When I use the xpdf package, the generated text is very weird, so I'd
> like
> > to write a program which would convert the pdf text into Unicode text as
> it
> > is.
> >
> > The fonts used in the pdfs:
> > name                                   type              emb sub uni
> object
> > ID
> > ------------------------------------ ----------------- --- --- ---
> > ---------
> > APKAPP+Usha-Bold                     Type 1C           yes yes yes     72
> >  0
> > APKBBB+Agenda-Light                  Type 1C           yes yes yes     77
> >  0
> > APKBGF+Usha                          Type 1C           yes yes yes     41
> >  0
> > APKBKJ+Agenda-Medium                 Type 1C           yes yes yes     46
> >  0
> > APKBON+Agenda-Bold                   Type 1C           yes yes yes     49
> >  0
> >
> > For eg. in the pdf: ???? ??????? ??
> >              when I use pdftotext, I get some very weird symbols: '...
> > .......'
> >             while i'd like '???? ??????? ??' to be the output
> >
> >
> > --
> > Eknath Venkataramani
> > _______________________________________________
> > BangPypers mailing list
> > BangPypers at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
> >
>
>
>
> --
> --------------------------------------------------------
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> twitter: http://twitter.com/dnene
> _______________________________________________
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> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



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From eknath.iyer at gmail.com  Mon May 24 17:23:06 2010
From: eknath.iyer at gmail.com (Eknath Venkataramani)
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 20:53:06 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] extracting unicode text from pdfs
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinfypAykXzJgITqdsFueWjGDq5Q2qAZoihQGQ98@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinr0T9j6fscwqhLlO4qL9fsBXMvw8QWiJmaWy9p@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinfypAykXzJgITqdsFueWjGDq5Q2qAZoihQGQ98@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinRnCUMXlW8Q0Br-z0WS1tzp8Q72XlKcADYN6bz@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Dhananjay Nene <dhananjay.nene at gmail.com>wrote:

> You may want to try out pdfminer. Its very similar to xpdf in structure and
> should give you the parsed data into unicode directly.
>
Tried but I got the same output as xpdf. I guess it's because of the point
mentioned by Gora- 'you might not have those fonts installed in your system'


-- 
Eknath Venkataramani

From indudhar at gmail.com  Tue May 25 04:15:05 2010
From: indudhar at gmail.com (Indudhar Devanath)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 07:45:05 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] python for parsing
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTineiyvbUhxNCHOXeGTkuY3MMnUvj6ovTCZ5UN6n@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim4noTCVWPQouYVT9l5NSFaFjLQOvsuC3PZFA9a@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTintFFptObMlWgigNiAmcJkPSvS_qwRpkzdnIE72@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTinZle7Mq3iMJ3osE8CRC6mlHW6BKuZjRJwfohCW@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTim9YDfbBewzj920kZFFx-6IKkIfzQ_p5X0R8wtR@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTineiyvbUhxNCHOXeGTkuY3MMnUvj6ovTCZ5UN6n@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinn8u7gNNiTi0DLMhEPh88Vin7gAZzRVYR3UNH_@mail.gmail.com>

On 24 May 2010 12:06, Rahul R <rahul8590 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Kunal , i am happy as well as sad  , happy because my job has become
> much simpler and sad because everytime i think of a novel (honeslty ) idea
> .. i see someone else has already executed it .. :(
>
> David Heinemeier Hansson once said that reuse is over-rated.  He wouldn't
have invented Ruby on Rails if he felt, "well, someone has already invented
what I thought would be cool to do."  And many were open source!  If you
think there were none implemented in Ruby, then think of Django.  There were
already huge number of web frameworks implemented in Python, yet Adrian and
Jacob felt they can do better.  There were many web based email solutions
before Gmail came to existence.  And they did a lot of things differently.
They broke rules.  I once read that somebody at the US Patent office quit
because they thought everything that can be invented has already been
invented.  Yet, there are lot of patents pending and more to come.  Let your
novel ideas flow, let them run wild and see what else you can come up with.
Change is the only constant and you will always have opportunities.  Good
luck.

- Indudhar

From kunal.t2 at gmail.com  Tue May 25 04:21:01 2010
From: kunal.t2 at gmail.com (kunal ghosh)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 07:51:01 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] python for parsing
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinn8u7gNNiTi0DLMhEPh88Vin7gAZzRVYR3UNH_@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim4noTCVWPQouYVT9l5NSFaFjLQOvsuC3PZFA9a@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTintFFptObMlWgigNiAmcJkPSvS_qwRpkzdnIE72@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinZle7Mq3iMJ3osE8CRC6mlHW6BKuZjRJwfohCW@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTim9YDfbBewzj920kZFFx-6IKkIfzQ_p5X0R8wtR@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTineiyvbUhxNCHOXeGTkuY3MMnUvj6ovTCZ5UN6n@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinn8u7gNNiTi0DLMhEPh88Vin7gAZzRVYR3UNH_@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilfVjRLQWUDxJMy0h4AV2j6cg81KOojxBcaIciy@mail.gmail.com>

>
> > Thanks Kunal , i am happy as well as sad  , happy because my job has
> become
> > much simpler and sad because everytime i think of a novel (honeslty )
> idea
> > .. i see someone else has already executed it .. :(
>

My intension of telling about the existing works was to let you know of the
possibilities.
So that you can leverage their advantages and work on their weaknesses.


> >
> > David Heinemeier Hansson once said that reuse is over-rated.  He wouldn't
> have invented Ruby on Rails if he felt, "well, someone has already invented
> what I thought would be cool to do."  And many were open source!  If you
> think there were none implemented in Ruby, then think of Django.  There
> were
> already huge number of web frameworks implemented in Python, yet Adrian and
> Jacob felt they can do better.  There were many web based email solutions
> before Gmail came to existence.  And they did a lot of things differently.
> They broke rules.  I once read that somebody at the US Patent office quit
> because they thought everything that can be invented has already been
> invented.  Yet, there are lot of patents pending and more to come.  Let
> your
> novel ideas flow, let them run wild and see what else you can come up with.
> Change is the only constant and you will always have opportunities.  Good
> luck.
>

+1 and i agree with Indudhar.

-- 
regards
-------
Kunal Ghosh
Dept of Computer Sc. & Engineering.
Sir MVIT
Bangalore,India

Blog:kunalghosh.wordpress.com
Website:www.kunalghosh.net46.net

From guruprevails at gmail.com  Tue May 25 06:01:58 2010
From: guruprevails at gmail.com (Dattatreya Sharma)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 09:31:58 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Work Shop on Python in Bangalore
Message-ID: <AANLkTilUsoLRHZrDLAysarqDIwRLGcxkFme7sjFzubOj@mail.gmail.com>

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On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Vishal <vsapre80 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Rahul,
>
> Not sure if you'd be interested, however, david beazly who was here a
> couple
> of weeks back, has a straight forward implementation of Lex and Yacc in
> Python named: PLY : http://www.dabeaz.com/ply/index.html
> See if this interests you. This might be easier for the porting part, and
> then adding other stuff over this can be continued in Python.
>
> Vishal
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Rahul R <rahul8590 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Thanks Kunal , i am happy as well as sad  , happy because my job has
> > become
> > > much simpler and sad because everytime i think of a novel (honeslty )
> > idea
> > > .. i see someone else has already executed it .. :(
> >
> > There are still lots of things to do. Read the other code and learn
> > from it, perhaps implement your own thing and compare it with the
> > other to see if there are things to learn. Reinventing the wheel is
> > usually pointless but as an educational experience, I think it's nice.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > ~noufal
> > http://nibrahim.net.in
> > _______________________________________________
> > BangPypers mailing list
> > BangPypers at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks and best regards,
> Vishal Sapre
>
> ---
> "So say...Day by day, in every way, I am getting better, better and better
> !!!"
> "A Strong and Positive attitude creates more miracles than anything else.
> Because...Life is 10% how you make it, and 90% how you take it"
> "Diamond is another piece of coal that did well under pressure?
> "May we do good and not evil. May we find forgiveness for ourself and
> forgive others. May we share freely, never taking more than we give."
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



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Thanks,
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Zombie ( Founder - GuRu Prevails.com)
+91 9972952810

From venkat83 at gmail.com  Tue May 25 19:38:22 2010
From: venkat83 at gmail.com (Venkatraman S)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 23:08:22 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] File Upload with Progress Bar
Message-ID: <AANLkTikdO_P9eAH8hYtkuAG6rwrCOfzWm7p-sdYYkek-@mail.gmail.com>

Well, I have trying this for quiet sometime, sans html5 coolness, but has
anyone got a simple file upload with a progress bar running? Either using
uploadify or jquploader?
I know it sounds simple, and so did i think when i started, but the darn
thing just fails to work.
I dont want the server be overloaded to track the progress - as in, the
client/server need not do async calls.

Please share code if you have already done it.

-V-

From murugadoss2884 at gmail.com  Thu May 27 02:49:13 2010
From: murugadoss2884 at gmail.com (murugadoss)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 09:49:13 +0900
Subject: [BangPypers] Extracting tar.gz file
Message-ID: <AANLkTin-MBMlRYmGxjMpXJxFZ8g3IMpeFzKA8C3W_ov3@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I am trying to extract tar.gz file using python script. when i do so, i get
an error,

   tar = tarfile.open("sample.tar.gz","r")
  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.5/tarfile.py", line 1153, in open
    raise ReadError("file could not be opened successfully")
tarfile.ReadError: file could not be opened successfully

can anyone say me, what this error exactly and how to solve this?

Thanks in advance
--
Thanks & Regards
V.Murugadoss

From dhananjay.nene at gmail.com  Thu May 27 03:09:22 2010
From: dhananjay.nene at gmail.com (Dhananjay Nene)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 06:39:22 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Extracting tar.gz file
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin-MBMlRYmGxjMpXJxFZ8g3IMpeFzKA8C3W_ov3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTin-MBMlRYmGxjMpXJxFZ8g3IMpeFzKA8C3W_ov3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinozWGjpLYzUyqljoo_brd1MVzbvkcuBmp0OArn@mail.gmail.com>

Instinctively, the error seems to be opening the file and not with the
tarfile decoding.
You may want to check if  open("sample.tar.gz","r") works.

Dhananjay

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 6:19 AM, murugadoss <murugadoss2884 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I am trying to extract tar.gz file using python script. when i do so, i get
> an error,
>
>   tar = tarfile.open("sample.tar.gz","r")
>  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.5/tarfile.py", line 1153, in open
>    raise ReadError("file could not be opened successfully")
> tarfile.ReadError: file could not be opened successfully
>
> can anyone say me, what this error exactly and how to solve this?
>
> Thanks in advance
> --
> Thanks & Regards
> V.Murugadoss
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



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From dhananjay.nene at gmail.com  Thu May 27 03:11:13 2010
From: dhananjay.nene at gmail.com (Dhananjay Nene)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 06:41:13 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Extracting tar.gz file
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinozWGjpLYzUyqljoo_brd1MVzbvkcuBmp0OArn@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTin-MBMlRYmGxjMpXJxFZ8g3IMpeFzKA8C3W_ov3@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinozWGjpLYzUyqljoo_brd1MVzbvkcuBmp0OArn@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik60xbXuCfjhzP6l_t4evjpXOiamDHus_Rt_ZQt@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 6:39 AM, Dhananjay Nene <dhananjay.nene at gmail.com>wrote:

> Instinctively, the error seems to be opening the file and not with the
> tarfile decoding.
> You may want to check if  open("sample.tar.gz","r") works.
>
> Dhananjay
>
>
> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 6:19 AM, murugadoss <murugadoss2884 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I am trying to extract tar.gz file using python script. when i do so, i
>> get
>> an error,
>>
>>   tar = tarfile.open("sample.tar.gz","r")
>>  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.5/tarfile.py", line 1153, in open
>>    raise ReadError("file could not be opened successfully")
>> tarfile.ReadError: file could not be opened successfully
>>
>> can anyone say me, what this error exactly and how to solve this?
>>
>> You may want to check out
http://old.nabble.com/Re%3A-tarfile-doesn%27t-work-with-tgz-files--p23576622.html


> Thanks in advance
>> --
>> Thanks & Regards
>> V.Murugadoss
>> _______________________________________________
>> BangPypers mailing list
>> BangPypers at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>>
>
>
>
> --
> --------------------------------------------------------
> blog: http://blog.dhananjaynene.com
> twitter: http://twitter.com/dnene
>



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From murugadoss2884 at gmail.com  Thu May 27 03:20:29 2010
From: murugadoss2884 at gmail.com (murugadoss)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 10:20:29 +0900
Subject: [BangPypers] Extracting tar.gz file
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik60xbXuCfjhzP6l_t4evjpXOiamDHus_Rt_ZQt@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTin-MBMlRYmGxjMpXJxFZ8g3IMpeFzKA8C3W_ov3@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinozWGjpLYzUyqljoo_brd1MVzbvkcuBmp0OArn@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTik60xbXuCfjhzP6l_t4evjpXOiamDHus_Rt_ZQt@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimUYGQVqApcblLTyiFtMVrgIGviTZ2kH4h53rH8@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,
Thanks for the Reply.
I am able to extract the file manually, using "tar -xzvf sample.tar.gz"
command.

--
Thanks & Regards
V.Murugadoss


On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Dhananjay Nene
<dhananjay.nene at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 6:39 AM, Dhananjay Nene <dhananjay.nene at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Instinctively, the error seems to be opening the file and not with the
> > tarfile decoding.
> > You may want to check if  open("sample.tar.gz","r") works.
> >
> > Dhananjay
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 6:19 AM, murugadoss <murugadoss2884 at gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I am trying to extract tar.gz file using python script. when i do so, i
> >> get
> >> an error,
> >>
> >>   tar = tarfile.open("sample.tar.gz","r")
> >>  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.5/tarfile.py", line 1153, in open
> >>    raise ReadError("file could not be opened successfully")
> >> tarfile.ReadError: file could not be opened successfully
> >>
> >> can anyone say me, what this error exactly and how to solve this?
> >>
> >> You may want to check out
>
> http://old.nabble.com/Re%3A-tarfile-doesn%27t-work-with-tgz-files--p23576622.html
>
>
> > Thanks in advance
> >> --
> >> Thanks & Regards
> >> V.Murugadoss
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> BangPypers mailing list
> >> BangPypers at python.org
> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > --------------------------------------------------------
> > blog: http://blog.dhananjaynene.com
> > twitter: http://twitter.com/dnene
> >
>
>
>
> --
> --------------------------------------------------------
> blog: http://blog.dhananjaynene.com
> twitter: http://twitter.com/dnene
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
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From murugadoss2884 at gmail.com  Thu May 27 03:21:10 2010
From: murugadoss2884 at gmail.com (murugadoss)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 10:21:10 +0900
Subject: [BangPypers] Extracting tar.gz file
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinozWGjpLYzUyqljoo_brd1MVzbvkcuBmp0OArn@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTin-MBMlRYmGxjMpXJxFZ8g3IMpeFzKA8C3W_ov3@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinozWGjpLYzUyqljoo_brd1MVzbvkcuBmp0OArn@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTil3iKmf6rlMeyakjaL6OsMxjm5hD9658XAU7sF4@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,
Thanks for the Reply.
I am able to extract the file manually, using "tar -xzvf sample.tar.gz"
command.
--
Thanks & Regards
V.Murugadoss


On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Dhananjay Nene
<dhananjay.nene at gmail.com>wrote:

> Instinctively, the error seems to be opening the file and not with the
> tarfile decoding.
> You may want to check if  open("sample.tar.gz","r") works.
>
> Dhananjay
>
> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 6:19 AM, murugadoss <murugadoss2884 at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I am trying to extract tar.gz file using python script. when i do so, i
> get
> > an error,
> >
> >   tar = tarfile.open("sample.tar.gz","r")
> >  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.5/tarfile.py", line 1153, in open
> >    raise ReadError("file could not be opened successfully")
> > tarfile.ReadError: file could not be opened successfully
> >
> > can anyone say me, what this error exactly and how to solve this?
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> > --
> > Thanks & Regards
> > V.Murugadoss
> > _______________________________________________
> > BangPypers mailing list
> > BangPypers at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
> >
>
>
>
> --
> --------------------------------------------------------
> blog: http://blog.dhananjaynene.com
> twitter: http://twitter.com/dnene
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>

From dhananjay.nene at gmail.com  Thu May 27 03:26:30 2010
From: dhananjay.nene at gmail.com (Dhananjay Nene)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 06:56:30 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Extracting tar.gz file
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil3iKmf6rlMeyakjaL6OsMxjm5hD9658XAU7sF4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTin-MBMlRYmGxjMpXJxFZ8g3IMpeFzKA8C3W_ov3@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinozWGjpLYzUyqljoo_brd1MVzbvkcuBmp0OArn@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTil3iKmf6rlMeyakjaL6OsMxjm5hD9658XAU7sF4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikNBPvieg0VICDR9FJb4VroiWba6p6fUHIN5W3W@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 6:51 AM, murugadoss <murugadoss2884 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hello,
> Thanks for the Reply.
> I am able to extract the file manually, using "tar -xzvf sample.tar.gz"
> command.
>

Probably needs a "r;gz" mode instead of just "r"
>From the tarfile module doc :

tarfile.open(*name=None*, *mode='r'*, *fileobj=None*, *bufsize=10240*, *
**kwargs*)? <http://docs.python.org/library/tarfile.html#tarfile.open>

Return a TarFile<http://docs.python.org/library/tarfile.html#tarfile.TarFile>object
for the pathname
*name*. For detailed information on
TarFile<http://docs.python.org/library/tarfile.html#tarfile.TarFile>objects
and the keyword arguments that are allowed, see
*TarFile Objects*<http://docs.python.org/library/tarfile.html#tarfile-objects>
.

*mode* has to be a string of the form 'filemode[:compression]', it defaults
to 'r'. Here is a full list of mode combinations:
   mode action  'r' or 'r:*' Open for reading with transparent compression
(recommended). 'r:' Open for reading exclusively without compression. *
'r:gz'* *Open for reading with gzip compression.* 'r:bz2' Open for reading
with bzip2 compression.

> --
> Thanks & Regards
> V.Murugadoss
>
>
> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Dhananjay Nene
> <dhananjay.nene at gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > Instinctively, the error seems to be opening the file and not with the
> > tarfile decoding.
> > You may want to check if  open("sample.tar.gz","r") works.
> >
> > Dhananjay
> >
> > On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 6:19 AM, murugadoss <murugadoss2884 at gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I am trying to extract tar.gz file using python script. when i do so, i
> > get
> > > an error,
> > >
> > >   tar = tarfile.open("sample.tar.gz","r")
> > >  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.5/tarfile.py", line 1153, in open
> > >    raise ReadError("file could not be opened successfully")
> > > tarfile.ReadError: file could not be opened successfully
> > >
> > > can anyone say me, what this error exactly and how to solve this?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance
> > > --
> > > Thanks & Regards
> > > V.Murugadoss
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > BangPypers mailing list
> > > BangPypers at python.org
> > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > --------------------------------------------------------
> > blog: http://blog.dhananjaynene.com
> > twitter: http://twitter.com/dnene
> > _______________________________________________
> > BangPypers mailing list
> > BangPypers at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
> >
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



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--------------------------------------------------------
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twitter: http://twitter.com/dnene

From nikunjbadjatya at gmail.com  Thu May 27 09:05:51 2010
From: nikunjbadjatya at gmail.com (nikunj badjatya)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 12:35:51 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Program_to_catch_changes_in_webpage
Message-ID: <AANLkTikpn9O8TLf4xfs5xdUFnVRhSsUHdHtIhE996AX5@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,
I am actually using a web interface for outlook mails. Pointing the link to
my browser opens a page which shows me all my mails.
I had to refresh it to check for a new mail.  Many a times I was very late
to send a reply because of it.
So a thought to make a script which will automatically refresh that web
page, and tells to user for any new mails by popping a dialog or making a
sound.

*  It should periodically check for any changes in that webpage .
*  If their is any, then notification should be sent to user. ( some dialog
pop up, or some sound. )

Any idea as to how to proceed on this. ?

OS - Linux ( CentOS 5.4)
Browser - Firefox, Opera

Thanks,

Nikunj Badjatya
Bangalore, India

From nikunjbadjatya at gmail.com  Thu May 27 10:19:28 2010
From: nikunjbadjatya at gmail.com (nikunj badjatya)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 13:49:28 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] [Tutor] Program_to_catch_changes_in_webpage
In-Reply-To: <htl88u$etg$1@dough.gmane.org>
References: <AANLkTikpn9O8TLf4xfs5xdUFnVRhSsUHdHtIhE996AX5@mail.gmail.com> 
	<htl88u$etg$1@dough.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikpxD2oFRLTUW1jnmVHRJj8FS5tbZ40MsTJnhu9@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

>Is it the standard Outlook Web Access(OWA) tool that
>comes with MS Exchange?

Yes.

>Are you trying to write a script that talks to the web
>browser to refresh the page? Or are you looking to monitor
>the server?

Yes, Talking to the web browser seems to be easiest way without notifying
admin.



Nikunj Badjatya
BTech




On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Alan Gauld <alan.gauld at btinternet.com>wrote:

> "nikunj badjatya" <nikunjbadjatya at gmail.com>
>
>
>  I am actually using a web interface for outlook mails.
>>
>
>  *  It should periodically check for any changes in that webpage .
>>
>> *  If their is any, then notification should be sent to user. ( some
>> dialog
>> pop up, or some sound. )
>>
>
> Is it the standard Outlook Web Access(OWA) tool that
> comes with MS Exchange? If so you can adjust your
> settings to have both an audible and visual notification
> of new mail.
>
>
>  OS - Linux ( CentOS 5.4)
>> Browser - Firefox, Opera
>>
>
> Although that might only work on IE under Windows...
> I've never tried on Linux although the basic GUI works OK there.
>
>
>  So a thought to make a script which will automatically refresh that web
>> page, and tells to user for any new mails by popping a dialog or making a
>> sound.
>>
>
> Are you trying to write a script that talks to the web
> browser to refresh the page? Or are you looking to monitor
> the server? I suspect the second option is easier, but could
> make you unpopular with the admin team!
>
> HTH,
>
> --
> Alan Gauld
> Author of the Learn to Program web site
> http://www.alan-g.me.uk/
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Tutor maillist  -  Tutor at python.org
> To unsubscribe or change subscription options:
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
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From noufal at gmail.com  Thu May 27 10:23:58 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 13:53:58 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Program_to_catch_changes_in_webpage
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikpn9O8TLf4xfs5xdUFnVRhSsUHdHtIhE996AX5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikpn9O8TLf4xfs5xdUFnVRhSsUHdHtIhE996AX5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimoBm0nQeB6LgIfxjxvQrrtgMKaykIzp_pxyzpF@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 12:35 PM, nikunj badjatya
<nikunjbadjatya at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
> I am actually using a web interface for outlook mails. Pointing the link to
> my browser opens a page which shows me all my mails.
> I had to refresh it to check for a new mail. ?Many a times I was very late
> to send a reply because of it.
> So a thought to make a script which will automatically refresh that web
> page, and tells to user for any new mails by popping a dialog or making a
> sound.
>
> * ?It should periodically check for any changes in that webpage .
> * ?If their is any, then notification should be sent to user. ( some dialog
> pop up, or some sound. )
>
> Any idea as to how to proceed on this. ?

Please don't cross post to multiple mailing lists.

If you're using FF to do this, it might make sense to write a small
greasemonkey script to do your refresh + notification.



-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From vsapre80 at gmail.com  Thu May 27 12:18:30 2010
From: vsapre80 at gmail.com (Vishal)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 15:48:30 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Program_to_catch_changes_in_webpage
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimoBm0nQeB6LgIfxjxvQrrtgMKaykIzp_pxyzpF@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikpn9O8TLf4xfs5xdUFnVRhSsUHdHtIhE996AX5@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTimoBm0nQeB6LgIfxjxvQrrtgMKaykIzp_pxyzpF@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimVk3VAjW2HHw4n4_AX95X1aqxdEoP1wbnmAqTn@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

See if this makes sense for your needs:
Adrian Holovaty, one of the makers of Django, has solved the Outlook Web
Access new email notification problem by using a python module to do some
screen scrapping to find out if a new mail has come in.

http://www.holovaty.com/writing/331/

Take care,
Vishal Sapre

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 12:35 PM, nikunj badjatya
> <nikunjbadjatya at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > I am actually using a web interface for outlook mails. Pointing the link
> to
> > my browser opens a page which shows me all my mails.
> > I had to refresh it to check for a new mail.  Many a times I was very
> late
> > to send a reply because of it.
> > So a thought to make a script which will automatically refresh that web
> > page, and tells to user for any new mails by popping a dialog or making a
> > sound.
> >
> > *  It should periodically check for any changes in that webpage .
> > *  If their is any, then notification should be sent to user. ( some
> dialog
> > pop up, or some sound. )
> >
> > Any idea as to how to proceed on this. ?
>
> Please don't cross post to multiple mailing lists.
>
> If you're using FF to do this, it might make sense to write a small
> greasemonkey script to do your refresh + notification.
>
>
>
> --
> ~noufal
> http://nibrahim.net.in
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



-- 
Thanks and best regards,
Vishal Sapre

---
"So say...Day by day, in every way, I am getting better, better and better
!!!"
"A Strong and Positive attitude creates more miracles than anything else.
Because...Life is 10% how you make it, and 90% how you take it"
"Diamond is another piece of coal that did well under pressure?
"May we do good and not evil. May we find forgiveness for ourself and
forgive others. May we share freely, never taking more than we give."

From srinivas_thatiparthy at akebonosoft.com  Thu May 27 13:00:12 2010
From: srinivas_thatiparthy at akebonosoft.com (Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 16:30:12 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Any compiled all PEP's into pdf
Message-ID: <4EF2BF691B890546B2694C99A2852F0C01D8339E@astserver3.akebonosoft.com>

Hi list,

Does anyone compiled all PEP's into a PDF document or chm file.I searched the internet but didn't get it.If you guys  found pdf/chm file, please send the link.

TIA,
Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy.





From abpillai at gmail.com  Thu May 27 13:25:20 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 16:55:20 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Any compiled all PEP's into pdf
In-Reply-To: <4EF2BF691B890546B2694C99A2852F0C01D8339E@astserver3.akebonosoft.com>
References: <4EF2BF691B890546B2694C99A2852F0C01D8339E@astserver3.akebonosoft.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilhPbMYMUgjafYEuMd-xVibcLmpNbrJP1HDJnSV@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy <
srinivas_thatiparthy at akebonosoft.com> wrote:

> Hi list,
>
> Does anyone compiled all PEP's into a PDF document or chm file.I searched
> the internet but didn't get it.If you guys  found pdf/chm file, please send
> the link.
>
>
Why do you need all PEPs compiled into PDF anyway ?
If you really need one, I suggest writing a simple script that
searches the PEP index, downloads the PEP text files and uses
pytext2pdf to convert it to PDFs.

If you want a single PDF, concat the peps together and call pytext2pdf
on it.

pytext2pdf can be obtained from
http://code.activestate.com/recipes/532908-text-to-pdf-converter-rewrite/
(yeah, I wrote it, so this is a bit of self-trumpeting!)

The PEP index is here.

http://www.python.org/dev/peps/
Crawl it using some crawler or Firefox (downthemall) and you
can do this. With HarvestMan, the whole thing can be automated
with 15 mins of programming.


--Anand


> TIA,
> Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy.
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



-- 
--Anand

From abpillai at gmail.com  Thu May 27 14:02:13 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 17:32:13 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Any compiled all PEP's into pdf
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilhPbMYMUgjafYEuMd-xVibcLmpNbrJP1HDJnSV@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4EF2BF691B890546B2694C99A2852F0C01D8339E@astserver3.akebonosoft.com>
	<AANLkTilhPbMYMUgjafYEuMd-xVibcLmpNbrJP1HDJnSV@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimcJlQOEKB31mJpgn3uQuE_x_PQppDqFb27JKn5@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai <
abpillai at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy <
> srinivas_thatiparthy at akebonosoft.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi list,
>>
>> Does anyone compiled all PEP's into a PDF document or chm file.I searched
>> the internet but didn't get it.If you guys  found pdf/chm file, please send
>> the link.
>>
>>
> Why do you need all PEPs compiled into PDF anyway ?
> If you really need one, I suggest writing a simple script that
> searches the PEP index, downloads the PEP text files and uses
> pytext2pdf to convert it to PDFs.
>
> If you want a single PDF, concat the peps together and call pytext2pdf
> on it.
>
> pytext2pdf can be obtained from
> http://code.activestate.com/recipes/532908-text-to-pdf-converter-rewrite/
> (yeah, I wrote it, so this is a bit of self-trumpeting!)
>
> The PEP index is here.
>
> http://www.python.org/dev/peps/
> Crawl it using some crawler or Firefox (downthemall) and you
> can do this. With HarvestMan, the whole thing can be automated
> with 15 mins of programming.
>

This felt like a fun thing to do so I actually did it but not from
the PEPS index since it didn't give me text files but HTML files.
Thankfully the PEPS are available in text format from
http://svn.python.org/projects/peps/trunk/, so I just checked out
the text files and using some quick work ran text2pdf on
a single text file which I created by concatenating all PEP
files into a single text file in sorted order.

I have uploaded this to
http://harvestmanontheweb.com/python/peps_all.pdf.

Total time taken for me: 15 mins

Enjoy.


>
> --Anand
>
>
>> TIA,
>> Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> BangPypers mailing list
>> BangPypers at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>>
>
>
>
> --
> --Anand
>
>
>
>


-- 
--Anand

From anandology at gmail.com  Thu May 27 14:43:24 2010
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 18:13:24 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Any compiled all PEP's into pdf
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilhPbMYMUgjafYEuMd-xVibcLmpNbrJP1HDJnSV@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4EF2BF691B890546B2694C99A2852F0C01D8339E@astserver3.akebonosoft.com>
	<AANLkTilhPbMYMUgjafYEuMd-xVibcLmpNbrJP1HDJnSV@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTil9Wrdw1w83YdH_CK2BKrQccPn2iYMgF6l0Km0W@mail.gmail.com>

> pytext2pdf can be obtained from
> http://code.activestate.com/recipes/532908-text-to-pdf-converter-rewrite/
> (yeah, I wrote it, so this is a bit of self-trumpeting!)

Wow, that looks interesting. Do you know how to make it work with unicode text?

Anand

From delegbede at dudupay.com  Thu May 27 14:03:26 2010
From: delegbede at dudupay.com (Dipo Elegbede)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 13:03:26 +0100
Subject: [BangPypers] HELLO WORLD
Message-ID: <AANLkTikwt41QipWbwcZ8-d4eCDw0nd3XBIIu563r1zdi@mail.gmail.com>

This is about my first mail to this group and so I think it is just
reasonable to start with the ritual incantation.
HELLO WORLD.

I am new in Python and I'm already getting help from similar mailing group.

I have however come to conclude I need a one on one tutor to help me out.

Someone had been doing that for a while but I hope to get one or two
hands more. I can do some telephone tutorials if need be atleast to
compare note.

The bottom line is I am desperate about learning Python. I want to
know it so well.

I'm resident in Nigeria. Is there any organisation known training
people for Python? I would appreciate online classes if there are.

i hope to start pasting my queries after this mail and responses I get.

Besides, I just read about the policy on attachments and it's understandable.
If I want to send my codes for examination and possible corrections,
how do I get that done.

I want to get the best out of this group without running foul of any
policy, please help.

Thanks and Best Regards,

-- 
Elegbede Muhammed Oladipupo
OCA
+2348077682428
+2347042171716
www.dudupay.com
Mobile Banking Solutions | Transaction Processing | Enterprise
Application Development

From anil.kumar.848 at gmail.com  Thu May 27 15:45:22 2010
From: anil.kumar.848 at gmail.com (anil kumar)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 19:15:22 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] HELLO WORLD
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikwt41QipWbwcZ8-d4eCDw0nd3XBIIu563r1zdi@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikwt41QipWbwcZ8-d4eCDw0nd3XBIIu563r1zdi@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilcCw77RsL-6xZpqFCFgcUw3WhObuFE2OncnRI8@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,
      for beginners you could get hold of a book "Byte of python" very good
for noobs and for code analysis you could use paste bins like
http://pastebin.com and give us a link and some of us can help you with the
corrections.

regards,
Anil

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Dipo Elegbede <delegbede at dudupay.com>wrote:

> This is about my first mail to this group and so I think it is just
> reasonable to start with the ritual incantation.
> HELLO WORLD.
>
> I am new in Python and I'm already getting help from similar mailing group.
>
> I have however come to conclude I need a one on one tutor to help me out.
>
> Someone had been doing that for a while but I hope to get one or two
> hands more. I can do some telephone tutorials if need be atleast to
> compare note.
>
> The bottom line is I am desperate about learning Python. I want to
> know it so well.
>
> I'm resident in Nigeria. Is there any organisation known training
> people for Python? I would appreciate online classes if there are.
>
> i hope to start pasting my queries after this mail and responses I get.
>
> Besides, I just read about the policy on attachments and it's
> understandable.
> If I want to send my codes for examination and possible corrections,
> how do I get that done.
>
> I want to get the best out of this group without running foul of any
> policy, please help.
>
> Thanks and Best Regards,
>
> --
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> OCA
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From murugadoss2884 at gmail.com  Thu May 27 16:46:36 2010
From: murugadoss2884 at gmail.com (murugadoss)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 23:46:36 +0900
Subject: [BangPypers] Tcp/ip server client program
Message-ID: <AANLkTim7S7VYuwciDFvww8tvk5A7sG8hQ_Eh3ltf5hgZ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I am trying out client/server program in python using both udp and tcp/ip.
UDP is working,but for tcp/ip program, i get an error as

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "./server.py", line 11, in <module>
    client_socket, address = server_socket.accept()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.5/socket.py", line 172, in accept
    sock, addr = self._sock.accept()
KeyboardInterrupt

Help please !!
Thanks in advance

--
Thanks & Regards
V.Murugadoss

From delegbede at dudupay.com  Thu May 27 17:22:36 2010
From: delegbede at dudupay.com (Dipo Elegbede)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 16:22:36 +0100
Subject: [BangPypers] HELP ME CHECK
Message-ID: <AANLkTikANwzdxVEyLThYF2Lh4AfZSHrLs5-_l37D2Xs2@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I was reading through Alan Gauld's website:
http://www.alan-g.me.uk/l2p/index.htm
Under, Handling files, I copied the following codes and tried to run
it but it didn't.
I have written to him though but would like to get someone to look at
it for me again.
I have pasted the code in the pastebin and the link is as follows:

http://pastebin.com/g6Ls6p9J.

Please help.
-- 
Elegbede Muhammed Oladipupo
OCA
+2348077682428
+2347042171716
www.dudupay.com
Mobile Banking Solutions | Transaction Processing | Enterprise
Application Development

From punchagan at gmail.com  Thu May 27 18:54:25 2010
From: punchagan at gmail.com (Puneeth Chaganti)
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 22:24:25 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] HELP ME CHECK
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikANwzdxVEyLThYF2Lh4AfZSHrLs5-_l37D2Xs2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikANwzdxVEyLThYF2Lh4AfZSHrLs5-_l37D2Xs2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinPji642j8Jn7nBRo5OAr2hnyG0Oaa5Cm-ZmwZ8@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 8:52 PM, Dipo Elegbede <delegbede at dudupay.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I was reading through Alan Gauld's website:
> http://www.alan-g.me.uk/l2p/index.htm
> Under, Handling files, I copied the following codes and tried to run
> it but it didn't.
> I have written to him though but would like to get someone to look at
> it for me again.
> I have pasted the code in the pastebin and the link is as follows:
>
> http://pastebin.com/g6Ls6p9J.

This is how I learnt to use the interpreter and the Error messages it
shows, to debug my code.

# Run your script.
# The interpreter barks, saying -
NameError: global name 'readBook' is not defined
# "But, I did define readBook, didn't I?", you wonder. Go back and
confirm. You find a readBook. You are confused.
# You run the script again, but the interpreter barks again! You are
even more confused.
# You re-read the error message. NameError: global name 'readBook' is
not defined. You look back at the code more carefully, to find that
indeed 'readBook' has not been defined. It was 'readbook' that was
defined.

readbook is not the same as readBook. Python is case sensitive.

HTH

~punchagan


>
> Please help.
> --
> Elegbede Muhammed Oladipupo
> OCA
> +2348077682428
> +2347042171716
> www.dudupay.com
> Mobile Banking Solutions | Transaction Processing | Enterprise
> Application Development
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>

From orsenthil at gmail.com  Fri May 28 05:04:22 2010
From: orsenthil at gmail.com (Senthil Kumaran)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 08:34:22 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Any compiled all PEP's into pdf
In-Reply-To: <4EF2BF691B890546B2694C99A2852F0C01D8339E@astserver3.akebonosoft.com>
References: <4EF2BF691B890546B2694C99A2852F0C01D8339E@astserver3.akebonosoft.com>
Message-ID: <20100528030422.GA3483@remy>

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 04:30:12PM +0530, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy wrote:

> Does anyone compiled all PEP's into a PDF document or chm file.I
> searched the internet but didn't get it.If you guys  found pdf/chm
> file, please send the link.

You got the pdf version from Anand.
Active State Distribution compiles the PEPS a CHM version its
documentation. It also includes Dive into python.


-- 
Senthil

falsie salesman, n:
	Fuller bust man.

From orsenthil at gmail.com  Fri May 28 05:26:16 2010
From: orsenthil at gmail.com (Senthil Kumaran)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 08:56:16 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Tcp/ip server client program
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim7S7VYuwciDFvww8tvk5A7sG8hQ_Eh3ltf5hgZ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim7S7VYuwciDFvww8tvk5A7sG8hQ_Eh3ltf5hgZ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100528032616.GB3483@remy>

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 11:46:36PM +0900, murugadoss wrote:
> I am trying out client/server program in python using both udp and tcp/ip.
> UDP is working,but for tcp/ip program, i get an error as

Please share the snippet of client and server code.

> KeyboardInterrupt

means you pressed CNTL+C or something else sent a SIGINT signal.

-- 
Senthil

<Joy> that's a Kludge(TM)
<knghtbrd> It Works(tm)
<Joy> AIX works(TM)
<knghtbrd> no it doesn't
<knghtbrd> =>

From noufal at gmail.com  Fri May 28 07:11:23 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 10:41:23 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Any compiled all PEP's into pdf
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimcJlQOEKB31mJpgn3uQuE_x_PQppDqFb27JKn5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4EF2BF691B890546B2694C99A2852F0C01D8339E@astserver3.akebonosoft.com>
	<AANLkTilhPbMYMUgjafYEuMd-xVibcLmpNbrJP1HDJnSV@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimcJlQOEKB31mJpgn3uQuE_x_PQppDqFb27JKn5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikCzmKPoMu3MqJQ128cJsFgTVHJX-udQ6wXvgKY@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai
<abpillai at gmail.com> wrote:
[..]
>
> This felt like a fun thing to do so I actually did it but not from
> the PEPS index since it didn't give me text files but HTML files.
> Thankfully the PEPS are available in text format from
> http://svn.python.org/projects/peps/trunk/, so I just checked out
> the text files and using some quick work ran text2pdf on
> a single text file which I created by concatenating all PEP
> files into a single text file in sorted order.
[..]

This is nice and your recipe is certainly useful.

One small thing is that the PEPs are originally in rst format. The
rst2pdf renderer (at http://code.google.com/p/rst2pdf/) is a reportlab
based utility to compile rst files into pdf. It understands the markup
and renders it properly (links, TOC etc.). It looks much  better than
a raw text->pdf conversion. The crawling, combining still has to be
done. I've compiled the first PEP here. Take a look
http://nibrahim.net.in/pep-0001.pdf


-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From orsenthil at gmail.com  Fri May 28 07:42:05 2010
From: orsenthil at gmail.com (Senthil Kumaran)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 11:12:05 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Any compiled all PEP's into pdf
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikCzmKPoMu3MqJQ128cJsFgTVHJX-udQ6wXvgKY@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4EF2BF691B890546B2694C99A2852F0C01D8339E@astserver3.akebonosoft.com>
	<AANLkTilhPbMYMUgjafYEuMd-xVibcLmpNbrJP1HDJnSV@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimcJlQOEKB31mJpgn3uQuE_x_PQppDqFb27JKn5@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikCzmKPoMu3MqJQ128cJsFgTVHJX-udQ6wXvgKY@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100528054205.GA3233@remy>

On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 10:41:23AM +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> and renders it properly (links, TOC etc.). It looks much  better than
> a raw text->pdf conversion. The crawling, combining still has to be

Except for the heading in the PEP data. The solution would be to
indent it so that it behaves like a pre-formatted text.

You can also do a sphinx-quickstart and in the index file, mention all
the pep names in the current directory (use your editor facilities
instead of script) and then do a make latex;cd _build/latex;make
all-pdf. There you go again. One indexed PDF with all PEPS.

These are just options available to play with. :)

-- 
Senthil

The worst thing about some men is that when they are not drunk they are sober.
		-- William Butler Yeats

From abpillai at gmail.com  Fri May 28 09:09:14 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 12:39:14 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Any compiled all PEP's into pdf
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikCzmKPoMu3MqJQ128cJsFgTVHJX-udQ6wXvgKY@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4EF2BF691B890546B2694C99A2852F0C01D8339E@astserver3.akebonosoft.com>
	<AANLkTilhPbMYMUgjafYEuMd-xVibcLmpNbrJP1HDJnSV@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimcJlQOEKB31mJpgn3uQuE_x_PQppDqFb27JKn5@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikCzmKPoMu3MqJQ128cJsFgTVHJX-udQ6wXvgKY@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin1sQDDrB5Vdu2KlnwzI5K2cKxyYdQcpMi91E4q@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai
> <abpillai at gmail.com> wrote:
> [..]
> >
> > This felt like a fun thing to do so I actually did it but not from
> > the PEPS index since it didn't give me text files but HTML files.
> > Thankfully the PEPS are available in text format from
> > http://svn.python.org/projects/peps/trunk/, so I just checked out
> > the text files and using some quick work ran text2pdf on
> > a single text file which I created by concatenating all PEP
> > files into a single text file in sorted order.
> [..]
>
> This is nice and your recipe is certainly useful.
>
> One small thing is that the PEPs are originally in rst format. The
> rst2pdf renderer (at http://code.google.com/p/rst2pdf/) is a reportlab
> based utility to compile rst files into pdf. It understands the markup
> and renders it properly (links, TOC etc.). It looks much  better than
> a raw text->pdf conversion. The crawling, combining still has to be
> done. I've compiled the first PEP here. Take a look
> http://nibrahim.net.in/pep-0001.pdf
>

Yeah, I noticed it was not pure text file and then upon
reading further figured out they were in RST format. But the
amount of work involved in converting the rst to pdf with
proper links/images etc makes this less fun, more hard work,
so I opted for the short-cut.

The PDF is very readable but no fancy, since it ignores
images embedded if any and also has these ugly rst headers
floating around. But enough for someone to understand the PEP
contents.


>
>
> --
> ~noufal
> http://nibrahim.net.in
> _______________________________________________
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>



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--Anand

From delegbede at dudupay.com  Fri May 28 09:12:17 2010
From: delegbede at dudupay.com (Dipo Elegbede)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 08:12:17 +0100
Subject: [BangPypers] HELP ME CHECK
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinPji642j8Jn7nBRo5OAr2hnyG0Oaa5Cm-ZmwZ8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikANwzdxVEyLThYF2Lh4AfZSHrLs5-_l37D2Xs2@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinPji642j8Jn7nBRo5OAr2hnyG0Oaa5Cm-ZmwZ8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikCuHD8daM0zpoDXa1fL7WMG98LFKONJ9dbkoO0@mail.gmail.com>

Oh My, thanks for the correction.

I'll look up the codes again and revert.

Thanks peeps.

On 5/27/10, Puneeth Chaganti <punchagan at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 8:52 PM, Dipo Elegbede <delegbede at dudupay.com>
> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I was reading through Alan Gauld's website:
>> http://www.alan-g.me.uk/l2p/index.htm
>> Under, Handling files, I copied the following codes and tried to run
>> it but it didn't.
>> I have written to him though but would like to get someone to look at
>> it for me again.
>> I have pasted the code in the pastebin and the link is as follows:
>>
>> http://pastebin.com/g6Ls6p9J.
>
> This is how I learnt to use the interpreter and the Error messages it
> shows, to debug my code.
>
> # Run your script.
> # The interpreter barks, saying -
> NameError: global name 'readBook' is not defined
> # "But, I did define readBook, didn't I?", you wonder. Go back and
> confirm. You find a readBook. You are confused.
> # You run the script again, but the interpreter barks again! You are
> even more confused.
> # You re-read the error message. NameError: global name 'readBook' is
> not defined. You look back at the code more carefully, to find that
> indeed 'readBook' has not been defined. It was 'readbook' that was
> defined.
>
> readbook is not the same as readBook. Python is case sensitive.
>
> HTH
>
> ~punchagan
>
>
>>
>> Please help.
>> --
>> Elegbede Muhammed Oladipupo
>> OCA
>> +2348077682428
>> +2347042171716
>> www.dudupay.com
>> Mobile Banking Solutions | Transaction Processing | Enterprise
>> Application Development
>> _______________________________________________
>> BangPypers mailing list
>> BangPypers at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>>
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>


-- 
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OCA
+2348077682428
+2347042171716
www.dudupay.com
Mobile Banking Solutions | Transaction Processing | Enterprise
Application Development

From murugadoss2884 at gmail.com  Fri May 28 09:19:31 2010
From: murugadoss2884 at gmail.com (murugadoss)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 16:19:31 +0900
Subject: [BangPypers] pack data
Message-ID: <AANLkTin34yXPS0aJ68s7avDexT7KtXkyit0_DN0vX2wF@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all,

I am trying a sample program for send set of data [ kept in array]. I have
attached the code below,

import struct

sendvalues = [181, 98, 11, 01]
for i in range(4):
snddata = struct.pack('int',int(sendvalue[i]))
sendto(sndData,("localhost"))

i am getting error as,

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "./clientudp.py", line 10, in <module>
    snddata = struct.pack('hhl',sendvalue[i])
  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.5/struct.py", line 63, in pack
    return o.pack(*args)
struct.error: pack requires exactly 3 arguments

can anyone please tell me, what is the issue and how to solve it.

Thank in advance
--
Thanks & Regards
V.Murugadoss

From noufal at gmail.com  Fri May 28 09:26:59 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 12:56:59 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] pack data
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin34yXPS0aJ68s7avDexT7KtXkyit0_DN0vX2wF@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTin34yXPS0aJ68s7avDexT7KtXkyit0_DN0vX2wF@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikxIXb8pyzEu5sS8uVV67QpmkbqZLh7XI9yuVyw@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 12:49 PM, murugadoss <murugadoss2884 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I am trying a sample program for send set of data [ kept in array]. I have
> attached the code below,
>
> import struct
>
> sendvalues = [181, 98, 11, 01]
> for i in range(4):
> snddata = struct.pack('int',int(sendvalue[i]))
> sendto(sndData,("localhost"))


'int' is not a valid struct.pack format specifier. You'll have to say
'i'. Since you have 4 arguments (all signed integers), you'll have to
say 'i'*4.

Something like

  struct.pack('i'*4, *sendvalues)

will pack all four integers into a string. The * before sendvalues it
to unpack the list into arguments. You can send it then. If you want
to send it int by int, you can put

  snddata = struct.pack('i', sendvalue[i])

in your loop (the int constructor is redundant since all the elements
are integers anyway).

Also, you wouldn't use "for i in range(4)" to loop through a list in
Python. You'd say

  for i in sendvalues:
     snddata = struct.pack('i', i)
     ...


> i am getting error as,
>
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> ?File "./clientudp.py", line 10, in <module>
> ? ?snddata = struct.pack('hhl',sendvalue[i])
> ?File "/usr/local/lib/python2.5/struct.py", line 63, in pack
> ? ?return o.pack(*args)
> struct.error: pack requires exactly 3 arguments

This is somewhat fundamental. Are you sure you read
http://docs.python.org/library/struct.html before trying this? If not,
you know what to do. :)


-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From rahul8590 at gmail.com  Fri May 28 09:49:17 2010
From: rahul8590 at gmail.com (Rahul R)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 11:49:17 +0400
Subject: [BangPypers] Tcp/ip server client program
In-Reply-To: <20100528032616.GB3483@remy>
References: <AANLkTim7S7VYuwciDFvww8tvk5A7sG8hQ_Eh3ltf5hgZ@mail.gmail.com>
	<20100528032616.GB3483@remy>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik1n3uyriVL6NR3lVn9vEAv30veZjypW0d-oqpX@mail.gmail.com>

welll i did try a client server program in TCP/IP , from

http://www.jroller.com/RickHigh/entry/notes_on_creating_a_socket

this tutorial . It helped me a lot , i hope it would help u too.

On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 7:26 AM, Senthil Kumaran <orsenthil at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 11:46:36PM +0900, murugadoss wrote:
> > I am trying out client/server program in python using both udp and
> tcp/ip.
> > UDP is working,but for tcp/ip program, i get an error as
>
> Please share the snippet of client and server code.
>
> > KeyboardInterrupt
>
> means you pressed CNTL+C or something else sent a SIGINT signal.
>
> --
> Senthil
>
> <Joy> that's a Kludge(TM)
> <knghtbrd> It Works(tm)
> <Joy> AIX works(TM)
> <knghtbrd> no it doesn't
> <knghtbrd> =>
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>

From abpillai at gmail.com  Fri May 28 10:42:46 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 14:12:46 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] pack data
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikxIXb8pyzEu5sS8uVV67QpmkbqZLh7XI9yuVyw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTin34yXPS0aJ68s7avDexT7KtXkyit0_DN0vX2wF@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikxIXb8pyzEu5sS8uVV67QpmkbqZLh7XI9yuVyw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilrMf0bsci-2TOJ6GjUDPWEp0l3GgJhqAiPMx5O@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 12:49 PM, murugadoss <murugadoss2884 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I am trying a sample program for send set of data [ kept in array]. I
> have
> > attached the code below,
> >
> > import struct
> >
> > sendvalues = [181, 98, 11, 01]
> > for i in range(4):
> > snddata = struct.pack('int',int(sendvalue[i]))
> > sendto(sndData,("localhost"))
>

Just do this.

>>> l=[181, 98, 11, 01]
>>> b=struct.pack('H'*4, *l)
>>> b
'\xb5\x00b\x00\x0b\x00\x01\x00'
>>> struct.unpack('H'*4,b)
(181, 98, 11, 1)

Since your integers are small you can use "unsigned short"
for which the specifier is 'H'. If you have any doubts, ask.




-- 
--Anand

From murugadoss2884 at gmail.com  Sat May 29 09:55:12 2010
From: murugadoss2884 at gmail.com (murugadoss)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 16:55:12 +0900
Subject: [BangPypers] Packing set of character and string
Message-ID: <AANLkTilsesf-VXdcoPl4ppnUCu20MxQik-RfVd2jk7Py@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I am trying to pack set of strings, can anyone suggest me a better way to do
it.

--
Thanks & Regards
V.Murugadoss

From noufal at gmail.com  Sat May 29 10:05:03 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 13:35:03 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Packing set of character and string
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilsesf-VXdcoPl4ppnUCu20MxQik-RfVd2jk7Py@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilsesf-VXdcoPl4ppnUCu20MxQik-RfVd2jk7Py@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikPvRomJrLq2E1rPRAzyHWbd3pPUe6F-ha8t71W@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 1:25 PM, murugadoss <murugadoss2884 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am trying to pack set of strings, can anyone suggest me a better way to do
> it.

Better than what? I'm not sure what you mean by packing.


-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From murugadoss2884 at gmail.com  Sat May 29 10:17:02 2010
From: murugadoss2884 at gmail.com (murugadoss)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 17:17:02 +0900
Subject: [BangPypers] Packing string and character
Message-ID: <AANLkTil407rBUsjONtEABZLr6aJVyuJiPwZ62rFItvHn@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,
I want to know how to pack a set of character or string, for example

Data = ['Date','time',year',23] ( data can be any combination of
string,character,integer ..etc)

Pack the data to single message to send in network,

Can any suggest me, how to do it
Thank in advance

--
Thanks & Regards
V.Murugadoss

From mbaiju at zeomega.com  Sat May 29 10:44:28 2010
From: mbaiju at zeomega.com (Baiju M)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 14:14:28 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Packing string and character
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil407rBUsjONtEABZLr6aJVyuJiPwZ62rFItvHn@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTil407rBUsjONtEABZLr6aJVyuJiPwZ62rFItvHn@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimnLK9nF6f_htsp2L-Y0aAIjB-f2rRV2UND_zfb@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 1:47 PM, murugadoss <murugadoss2884 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
> I want to know how to pack a set of character or string, for example
>
> Data = ['Date','time',year',23] ( data can be any combination of
> string,character,integer ..etc)
>
> Pack the data to single message to send in network,

You mean "Serialization" ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serialization

Please look at pickle module:
http://docs.python.org/library/pickle.html

Regards,
Baiju M

From murugadoss2884 at gmail.com  Sat May 29 11:17:40 2010
From: murugadoss2884 at gmail.com (murugadoss)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 18:17:40 +0900
Subject: [BangPypers] splitting the string
Message-ID: <AANLkTiliBfMpaV5CJqUKHzL9bz9vUEJ7eWMwfkP3GzeZ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I want to split the string using the delimiter, can any please suggest me
way to do it in python

for example:
    one;two;three;four (string)

i need to split this string using ; like one,two,three,four

Thank in advance

--
Thanks & Regards
V.Murugadoss

From jaganadhg at gmail.com  Sat May 29 11:21:31 2010
From: jaganadhg at gmail.com (JAGANADH G)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 14:51:31 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] splitting the string
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTiliBfMpaV5CJqUKHzL9bz9vUEJ7eWMwfkP3GzeZ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTiliBfMpaV5CJqUKHzL9bz9vUEJ7eWMwfkP3GzeZ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin-VpdFnxNCSRWTijbWdvmC6gFvZkFt8UXsUjHT@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 2:47 PM, murugadoss <murugadoss2884 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I want to split the string using the delimiter, can any please suggest me
> way to do it in python
>
> for example:
>    one;two;three;four (string)
>
> i need to split this string using ; like one,two,three,four
>

Have you reffered any Python documentation or books
or even used Gooogle ?

-- 
**********************************
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From dhananjay.nene at gmail.com  Sat May 29 11:23:50 2010
From: dhananjay.nene at gmail.com (Dhananjay Nene)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 14:53:50 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Simple queries which can be googled for Was: splitting
	the string
Message-ID: <AANLkTimhZlCqN9cMHsbSc-RWEtn7LM28-SbV2dpdCd4E@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 2:47 PM, murugadoss <murugadoss2884 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I want to split the string using the delimiter, can any please suggest me
> way to do it in python
>
> for example:
>    one;two;three;four (string)
>
> i need to split this string using ; like one,two,three,four
>

I am not sure what other in the group think about this, but there are times
when doing a quick google search (or referring the docs) is better than
posting a query to the mailing list.

a. It gets the answer much quicker
b. Saves the people in the mailing list from having to read one extra mail.

Quick answer to the question above : http://tinyurl.com/298rua2



>
> Thank in advance
>
> --
> Thanks & Regards
> V.Murugadoss
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



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From noufal at gmail.com  Sat May 29 11:38:32 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 15:08:32 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Packing string and character
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil407rBUsjONtEABZLr6aJVyuJiPwZ62rFItvHn@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTil407rBUsjONtEABZLr6aJVyuJiPwZ62rFItvHn@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilImmlIzZzUKpvISVSWBil-2uJZkBP0L-pyaMrq@mail.gmail.com>

You can json encode the data and send it.

On 5/29/10, murugadoss <murugadoss2884 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
> I want to know how to pack a set of character or string, for example
>
> Data = ['Date','time',year',23] ( data can be any combination of
> string,character,integer ..etc)
>
> Pack the data to single message to send in network,
>
> Can any suggest me, how to do it
> Thank in advance
>
> --
> Thanks & Regards
> V.Murugadoss
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>


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From abpillai at gmail.com  Sat May 29 11:48:29 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 15:18:29 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Packing string and character
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilImmlIzZzUKpvISVSWBil-2uJZkBP0L-pyaMrq@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTil407rBUsjONtEABZLr6aJVyuJiPwZ62rFItvHn@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTilImmlIzZzUKpvISVSWBil-2uJZkBP0L-pyaMrq@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTiln8q0GNbGoviZBZva4ZKI1VB8BAwproGHTyD99@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

> You can json encode the data and send it.
>

Most probably he just means using struct.pack considering
his earlier posts.



>
> On 5/29/10, murugadoss <murugadoss2884 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > I want to know how to pack a set of character or string, for example
> >
> > Data = ['Date','time',year',23] ( data can be any combination of
> > string,character,integer ..etc)
> >
> > Pack the data to single message to send in network,
> >
> > Can any suggest me, how to do it
> > Thank in advance
> >
> > --
> > Thanks & Regards
> > V.Murugadoss
> > _______________________________________________
> > BangPypers mailing list
> > BangPypers at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
> >
>
>
> --
> ~noufal
> http://nibrahim.net.in
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



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From abpillai at gmail.com  Sat May 29 11:50:21 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 15:20:21 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Simple queries which can be googled for Was:
	splitting the string
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimhZlCqN9cMHsbSc-RWEtn7LM28-SbV2dpdCd4E@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimhZlCqN9cMHsbSc-RWEtn7LM28-SbV2dpdCd4E@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilYh_-_YA5jQcohsWFbXB60jGIUdi5n6SCiillm@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Dhananjay Nene <dhananjay.nene at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 2:47 PM, murugadoss <murugadoss2884 at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I want to split the string using the delimiter, can any please suggest me
> > way to do it in python
> >
> > for example:
> >    one;two;three;four (string)
> >
> > i need to split this string using ; like one,two,three,four
> >
>
> I am not sure what other in the group think about this, but there are times
> when doing a quick google search (or referring the docs) is better than
> posting a query to the mailing list.
>

 +1. The group should not be used like a documentation reference.
Most of these questions can be answered yourself by looking up
the Python documentation or plain googling or just some afternoon
exploration with the Python interactive interpreter.



>
> a. It gets the answer much quicker
> b. Saves the people in the mailing list from having to read one extra mail.
>
> Quick answer to the question above : http://tinyurl.com/298rua2
>
>
>
> >
> > Thank in advance
> >
> > --
> > Thanks & Regards
> > V.Murugadoss
> > _______________________________________________
> > BangPypers mailing list
> > BangPypers at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
> >
>
>
>
> --
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From gvkalra at gmail.com  Sat May 29 12:56:13 2010
From: gvkalra at gmail.com (Gaurav Kalra)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 16:26:13 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Packing string and character
Message-ID: <AANLkTikTEmnr9mVxtYbnKGAh5Dh2PtDIM9BFUBtYLMUs@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Noufal.

>From Wikipedia:
JSON only handle basic Python types like strings, integers, and
collections of basic types, whereas pickle is intended for arbitrary
objects.

pickle won't be more suitable for what Murugadoss is asking for ?
--
With Thanks
Gaurav Kalra
gvkalra at googlemail.com

> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 15:08:32 +0530
> From: Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com>
> To: Bangalore Python Users Group - India <bangpypers at python.org>
> Subject: Re: [BangPypers] Packing string and character
> Message-ID:
> 	<AANLkTilImmlIzZzUKpvISVSWBil-2uJZkBP0L-pyaMrq at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> You can json encode the data and send it.
>
> On 5/29/10, murugadoss <murugadoss2884 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I want to know how to pack a set of character or string, for example
>>
>> Data = ['Date','time',year',23] ( data can be any combination of
>> string,character,integer ..etc)
>>
>> Pack the data to single message to send in network,
>>
>> Can any suggest me, how to do it
>> Thank in advance
>>
>> --
>> Thanks & Regards
>> V.Murugadoss
>> _______________________________________________
>> BangPypers mailing list
>> BangPypers at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>>
>
>
> --
> ~noufal
> http://nibrahim.net.in--

From noufal at gmail.com  Sat May 29 16:49:55 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 20:19:55 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Packing string and character
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikTEmnr9mVxtYbnKGAh5Dh2PtDIM9BFUBtYLMUs@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikTEmnr9mVxtYbnKGAh5Dh2PtDIM9BFUBtYLMUs@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilvKM_q0nJkiC7qHndQzq--hrgMGOIRx-zV18C6@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Gaurav Kalra <gvkalra at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Noufal.
>
> >From Wikipedia:
> JSON only handle basic Python types like strings, integers, and
> collections of basic types, whereas pickle is intended for arbitrary
> objects.
>
> pickle won't be more suitable for what Murugadoss is asking for ?

For general purpose serialisation, json is better. Pickle is a Python
specific format that will necessitate that the remote end be Python
(or atleast have a sawn off depickler). Also, unpickling involves
something like execution and the data is to be treated as malicious
(check out the warning here -
http://docs.python.org/library/pickle.html).  JSON has no such issues
since it's just data . With JSON, the remote end is free to be in
whatever language you want which is a good thing.

It is possible to jsonify arbitrary types but you'll have to decide
how. I'm not sure there's much point in serialising code itself and
sending it across a line. Well, maybe for something like an RPC
mechanism but even then, it shouldn't be code but some data
representing an instruction of some kind.

-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From jeffjosejeff at gmail.com  Sat May 29 17:20:59 2010
From: jeffjosejeff at gmail.com (Jeffrey Jose)
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 20:50:59 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] splitting the string
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin-VpdFnxNCSRWTijbWdvmC6gFvZkFt8UXsUjHT@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTiliBfMpaV5CJqUKHzL9bz9vUEJ7eWMwfkP3GzeZ@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTin-VpdFnxNCSRWTijbWdvmC6gFvZkFt8UXsUjHT@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimtFGNsbvajUA9-ElCzL4dOA3N_1kTNzLvN4kRs@mail.gmail.com>

python strings have a "split" function

it works like this.


>>> "this is a string".split()
["this", "is", "a", "string"]

>>> "one, two, three, four".split(',')
["one", "two", "three", "four"]


Note: without any arguments, split function split a string on whitespace.
Passing an additional parameter, (like in second example ',') will split a
string on that parameter

For your case, you just have to do

>>> "one;two;three;four".split(';')
["one", "two", "three", "four"]



HTH
jeff

PS: Your question is considered as the most basic. Next time, make an effort
to find an answer in official docs or Google. Take my word, python official
docs are superb.

From abpillai at gmail.com  Sun May 30 07:56:07 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 11:26:07 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Packing string and character
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilvKM_q0nJkiC7qHndQzq--hrgMGOIRx-zV18C6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikTEmnr9mVxtYbnKGAh5Dh2PtDIM9BFUBtYLMUs@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTilvKM_q0nJkiC7qHndQzq--hrgMGOIRx-zV18C6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikM5Kcn2-USWHDogRHltRDU9m6AZpuhBRsCR0jw@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 8:19 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Gaurav Kalra <gvkalra at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Noufal.
> >
> > >From Wikipedia:
> > JSON only handle basic Python types like strings, integers, and
> > collections of basic types, whereas pickle is intended for arbitrary
> > objects.
> >
> > pickle won't be more suitable for what Murugadoss is asking for ?
>
> For general purpose serialisation, json is better. Pickle is a Python
> specific format that will necessitate that the remote end be Python
> (or atleast have a sawn off depickler). Also, unpickling involves
> something like execution and the data is to be treated as malicious
> (check out the warning here -
> http://docs.python.org/library/pickle.html).  JSON has no such issues
> since it's just data . With JSON, the remote end is free to be in
> whatever language you want which is a good thing.
>
> It is possible to jsonify arbitrary types but you'll have to decide
> how. I'm not sure there's much point in serialising code itself and
> sending it across a line. Well, maybe for something like an RPC
> mechanism but even then, it shouldn't be code but some data
> representing an instruction of some kind.
>

 I use a few thumb rules when deciding between JSON and Pickle.

 1. If data is to be persisted to disk and not sent out to network,
  use Pickle, especially when only a Python runtime is involved.
 2. If the data has to be portable not just across Python runtimes,
  use JSON.

 Finally if I dont have much time to decide what the data
 format should be in terms of portability, safety etc, I always
  default to JSON, since that is generally safer.



>
> --
> ~noufal
> http://nibrahim.net.in.
>


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From jaganadhg at gmail.com  Sun May 30 18:26:56 2010
From: jaganadhg at gmail.com (JAGANADH G)
Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 21:56:56 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Harvestman error
Message-ID: <AANLkTinHg8FYWWCTeTUgdReush5NWfwQNcAPf4jp9_or@mail.gmail.com>

Dear All I was trying to run Harvestman(A Python tool for web harvesting).
I got the following error
http://pastebin.com/uPzUs0Xw

My configuration file is http://pastebin.com/dfhiy2Q6

Can any body help me regarding this.

I was trying to harvest my blog with a word filter 'Python'

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From jeffjosejeff at gmail.com  Sun May 30 18:53:54 2010
From: jeffjosejeff at gmail.com (Jeffrey Jose)
Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 22:23:54 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Harvestman error
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinHg8FYWWCTeTUgdReush5NWfwQNcAPf4jp9_or@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinHg8FYWWCTeTUgdReush5NWfwQNcAPf4jp9_or@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTincZH0PHiZ-LJ7d1sOXCWvRpEIDDxnRoWM1UWSe@mail.gmail.com>

Let me state at the outset that I have no idea what Harvestman is or what
you're trying to acheieve.

Looking at the stacktrace, I'll give you some pointers as to what I'd do if
I had got this error.


   1. File
   "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/HarvestMan-2.0.4betadev_r253-py2.6.egg/harvestman/lib/rules.py",
   line 355, in apply_word_filter
   2.     if self._configobj.wordfilterre.search(data):
   3. AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'search'


This tells me that self._configobj is None, which clearly it shouldnt be.
Your first step should be to identify where is self._configobj gets defined.

search for "self._configobj = " or "self._configobj=" in the py files ( that
is if its something that gets defined automatically)

Since the error comes from one of the library files (
/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/HarvestMan-2.0.4betadev_r253-py2.6.egg/harvestman/lib/rules.py)

it shows something you've done wrongly. One of the things you should keep in
mind while using third party frameworks (Harvestman is some kinda framwork
right ? ) it needs to have all things in place to get it working. Read the
docs, search google for example programs/code snippets.

Another clue is configobj -> "config" .. so this has something to do with
config. Probably a bad config file ?

I know this is too vague, as I said I have no idea what this Harvestman is.


Good Luck
/jeff


On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 9:56 PM, JAGANADH G <jaganadhg at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear All I was trying to run Harvestman(A Python tool for web harvesting).
> I got the following error
> http://pastebin.com/uPzUs0Xw
>
> My configuration file is http://pastebin.com/dfhiy2Q6
>
> Can any body help me regarding this.
>
> I was trying to harvest my blog with a word filter 'Python'
>
> --
> **********************************
> JAGANADH G
> http://jaganadhg.freeflux.net/blog
> _______________________________________________
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> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
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From ramdaz at gmail.com  Sun May 30 18:57:49 2010
From: ramdaz at gmail.com (Ramdas S)
Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 22:27:49 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Harvestman error
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTincZH0PHiZ-LJ7d1sOXCWvRpEIDDxnRoWM1UWSe@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinHg8FYWWCTeTUgdReush5NWfwQNcAPf4jp9_or@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTincZH0PHiZ-LJ7d1sOXCWvRpEIDDxnRoWM1UWSe@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikd-QAi7R7i0y46xB6Gn3oF_ArMOnxONsqm6vLU@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Jeffrey Jose <jeffjosejeff at gmail.com>wrote:

> Let me state at the outset that I have no idea what Harvestman is or what
>
>
FYI Author of Harvestman Anand Pillai is on this list.

-- 
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+91 9342 583 065

From jeffjosejeff at gmail.com  Sun May 30 19:20:19 2010
From: jeffjosejeff at gmail.com (Jeffrey Jose)
Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 22:50:19 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Harvestman error
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikd-QAi7R7i0y46xB6Gn3oF_ArMOnxONsqm6vLU@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinHg8FYWWCTeTUgdReush5NWfwQNcAPf4jp9_or@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTincZH0PHiZ-LJ7d1sOXCWvRpEIDDxnRoWM1UWSe@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikd-QAi7R7i0y46xB6Gn3oF_ArMOnxONsqm6vLU@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikgnvi6KeC2-qYeU5UUarTIfHQEbsdIJ6BuoS4A@mail.gmail.com>

that's great. I'm sure he'll have better input.

On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Ramdas S <ramdaz at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Jeffrey Jose <jeffjosejeff at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Let me state at the outset that I have no idea what Harvestman is or what
> >
> >
> FYI Author of Harvestman Anand Pillai is on this list.
>
> --
> Ramdas S
> +91 9342 583 065
> _______________________________________________
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>

From delegbede at dudupay.com  Sun May 30 20:17:43 2010
From: delegbede at dudupay.com (Dipo Elegbede)
Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 19:17:43 +0100
Subject: [BangPypers] PYTHON ON NOKIA E71
Message-ID: <AANLkTilnfZ-TedhEZsfVynQkAG3HsvbCjKzsdA8V6YYS@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,
Pls does anyone know whether I can install python and code on my Nokia E71?
I have full access to computer at my office but not at home. This is
creating a serious break in my flow of study.
With python on my phone,I can learn and code on the fly.
Already,I read Alan Gauld's note from my phone browser but I need to
start doing stuffs with my phone.
If you got an idea or the link, pls bring it on.
Thanks and Best regards,

-- 
Sent from my mobile device

Elegbede Muhammed Oladipupo
OCA
+2348077682428
+2347042171716
www.dudupay.com
Mobile Banking Solutions | Transaction Processing | Enterprise
Application Development

From steve at lonetwin.net  Sun May 30 22:31:15 2010
From: steve at lonetwin.net (steve)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 02:01:15 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] PYTHON ON NOKIA E71
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilnfZ-TedhEZsfVynQkAG3HsvbCjKzsdA8V6YYS@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilnfZ-TedhEZsfVynQkAG3HsvbCjKzsdA8V6YYS@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C02CB13.1070501@lonetwin.net>

Hi Dipo,
On 05/30/2010 11:47 PM, Dipo Elegbede wrote:
> Hi all,
> Pls does anyone know whether I can install python and code on my Nokia E71?
> I have full access to computer at my office but not at home. This is
> creating a serious break in my flow of study.
> With python on my phone,I can learn and code on the fly.
> Already,I read Alan Gauld's note from my phone browser but I need to
> start doing stuffs with my phone.
> If you got an idea or the link, pls bring it on.

http://wiki.opensource.nokia.com/projects/PyS60

I doubt it's feasibility as a learning tool for python by itself, but have fun 
anyways :)

cheers,
- steve

-- 
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From gvkalra at gmail.com  Mon May 31 00:22:31 2010
From: gvkalra at gmail.com (Gaurav Kalra)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 03:52:31 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] UI Designing
Message-ID: <AANLkTilFccngwcFvFpqM6voZK_iFf2O4Eb4w1yyn_qfk@mail.gmail.com>

Hi.

Can you please share what sort of UI Design tools the members on the
list currently use for designing web applications ?


--
With Thanks
Gaurav Kalra
gvkalra at googlemail.com

From murugadoss2884 at gmail.com  Mon May 31 02:26:59 2010
From: murugadoss2884 at gmail.com (murugadoss)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 09:26:59 +0900
Subject: [BangPypers] Extracting zipfile
Message-ID: <AANLkTinMExMdCDVXe0Axlzajtb0ocdL_edyCV99Q1PFF@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I am trying to extract a zipfile, using zipfile.extractall(). when i do so,
 i am getting an error as "AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute
'extractall' "

>>> zipfile.extractall("home/murugadoss/testfile.zip")
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'extractall'

I have checked the file using zipfile.is_zipfile(),

>>> zipfile.is_zipfile("/home/murugadoss/testfile.zip")
True

can anyone please help me.

--
Thanks & Regards
V.Murugadoss

From rmathews at gmail.com  Mon May 31 04:00:50 2010
From: rmathews at gmail.com (Roshan Mathews)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 07:30:50 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Extracting zipfile
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinMExMdCDVXe0Axlzajtb0ocdL_edyCV99Q1PFF@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinMExMdCDVXe0Axlzajtb0ocdL_edyCV99Q1PFF@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinYT_gUSOLiRRlcaUgTkVYR4CG9AYP8PlMS3F6v@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 05:56, murugadoss <murugadoss2884 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> zipfile.extractall("home/murugadoss/testfile.zip")
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> ?File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
> AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'extractall'

http://docs.python.org/library/zipfile.html#zipfile.ZipFile.extractall

`extractall' is a method on ZipFile objects.

You might need to do something like:
z = zipfile.ZipFile(path_to_file)
z.extractall(...)

From jeffjosejeff at gmail.com  Mon May 31 05:02:01 2010
From: jeffjosejeff at gmail.com (Jeffrey Jose)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 08:32:01 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Extracting zipfile
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinYT_gUSOLiRRlcaUgTkVYR4CG9AYP8PlMS3F6v@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinMExMdCDVXe0Axlzajtb0ocdL_edyCV99Q1PFF@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinYT_gUSOLiRRlcaUgTkVYR4CG9AYP8PlMS3F6v@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTil1a3XPzKDoCbW8itVrseierEb5x060qgXFankd@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Murugadoss,

If you're starting out Python, I highly recommend IPython (
http://ipython.scipy.org/moin/ ). With its excellent tab completion, you
would never run into an  "AttributeError"


/jeff


On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 7:30 AM, Roshan Mathews <rmathews at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 05:56, murugadoss <murugadoss2884 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>> zipfile.extractall("home/murugadoss/testfile.zip")
> > Traceback (most recent call last):
> >  File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
> > AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'extractall'
>
> http://docs.python.org/library/zipfile.html#zipfile.ZipFile.extractall
>
> `extractall' is a method on ZipFile objects.
>
> You might need to do something like:
> z = zipfile.ZipFile(path_to_file)
> z.extractall(...)
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From orsenthil at gmail.com  Mon May 31 05:28:41 2010
From: orsenthil at gmail.com (Senthil Kumaran)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 08:58:41 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Extracting zipfile
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil1a3XPzKDoCbW8itVrseierEb5x060qgXFankd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinMExMdCDVXe0Axlzajtb0ocdL_edyCV99Q1PFF@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinYT_gUSOLiRRlcaUgTkVYR4CG9AYP8PlMS3F6v@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTil1a3XPzKDoCbW8itVrseierEb5x060qgXFankd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100531032841.GA4403@remy>

On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 08:32:01AM +0530, Jeffrey Jose wrote:
> Dear Murugadoss,
> 
> If you're starting out Python, I highly recommend IPython (
> http://ipython.scipy.org/moin/ ). With its excellent tab completion, you
> would never run into an  "AttributeError"

I doubt. We better recommend him to read some docs and tutorial
material to 'understand' what is really happening.

-- 
Senthil

You can learn many things from children.  How much patience you have,
for instance.
		-- Franklin P. Jones

From noufal at gmail.com  Mon May 31 07:35:44 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 11:05:44 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Extracting zipfile
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil1a3XPzKDoCbW8itVrseierEb5x060qgXFankd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinMExMdCDVXe0Axlzajtb0ocdL_edyCV99Q1PFF@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinYT_gUSOLiRRlcaUgTkVYR4CG9AYP8PlMS3F6v@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTil1a3XPzKDoCbW8itVrseierEb5x060qgXFankd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimW9uL49XyfhweWlzOULXnIesO41KmvVS8OsyAC@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Jeffrey Jose <jeffjosejeff at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Murugadoss,
>
> If you're starting out Python, I highly recommend IPython (
> http://ipython.scipy.org/moin/ ). With its excellent tab completion, you
> would never run into an ?"AttributeError"

-1. Tab completion is there in the standard interpreter and ipython is
not a substitute for reading the documentation and going through the
tutorial which evidently the OP has not done.

-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From jeffjosejeff at gmail.com  Mon May 31 11:25:12 2010
From: jeffjosejeff at gmail.com (Jeffrey Jose)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 14:55:12 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Extracting zipfile
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimW9uL49XyfhweWlzOULXnIesO41KmvVS8OsyAC@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinMExMdCDVXe0Axlzajtb0ocdL_edyCV99Q1PFF@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinYT_gUSOLiRRlcaUgTkVYR4CG9AYP8PlMS3F6v@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTil1a3XPzKDoCbW8itVrseierEb5x060qgXFankd@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimW9uL49XyfhweWlzOULXnIesO41KmvVS8OsyAC@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik9ySlBVjg-8s0ZpK5TaPXSgu6-H-prOk-UaJRr@mail.gmail.com>

Correct me if I'm wrong but tab-completion doesn't work out of the box for
standard python interpreter.

On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Jeffrey Jose <jeffjosejeff at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Dear Murugadoss,
> >
> > If you're starting out Python, I highly recommend IPython (
> > http://ipython.scipy.org/moin/ ). With its excellent tab completion, you
> > would never run into an  "AttributeError"
>
> -1. Tab completion is there in the standard interpreter and ipython is
> not a substitute for reading the documentation and going through the
> tutorial which evidently the OP has not done.
>
> --
> ~noufal
> http://nibrahim.net.in
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>

From jeffjosejeff at gmail.com  Mon May 31 11:28:40 2010
From: jeffjosejeff at gmail.com (Jeffrey Jose)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 14:58:40 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] UI Designing
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilFccngwcFvFpqM6voZK_iFf2O4Eb4w1yyn_qfk@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilFccngwcFvFpqM6voZK_iFf2O4Eb4w1yyn_qfk@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikqmSHHo-tzcCm0PvEtPmP_x9rWgsZ9M6ZwyDrf@mail.gmail.com>

For UI design, I

1. Start off with pen and paper, quickly mock up several designs and
interaction patterns
2. Proceed onto Photoshop/Illustrator to get a feel of how things would
"look" at the end.

Repeat 1 and 2 over and over

Once I'm ok with a design, I proceed to the next phase, probably writing
some code.

/jeff

On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 3:52 AM, Gaurav Kalra <gvkalra at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi.
>
> Can you please share what sort of UI Design tools the members on the
> list currently use for designing web applications ?
>
>
> --
> With Thanks
> Gaurav Kalra
> gvkalra at googlemail.com
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>

From orsenthil at gmail.com  Mon May 31 11:32:26 2010
From: orsenthil at gmail.com (Senthil Kumaran)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 15:02:26 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Extracting zipfile
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik9ySlBVjg-8s0ZpK5TaPXSgu6-H-prOk-UaJRr@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinMExMdCDVXe0Axlzajtb0ocdL_edyCV99Q1PFF@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinYT_gUSOLiRRlcaUgTkVYR4CG9AYP8PlMS3F6v@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTil1a3XPzKDoCbW8itVrseierEb5x060qgXFankd@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimW9uL49XyfhweWlzOULXnIesO41KmvVS8OsyAC@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTik9ySlBVjg-8s0ZpK5TaPXSgu6-H-prOk-UaJRr@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100531093226.GA8069@remy>

On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 02:55:12PM +0530, Jeffrey Jose wrote:
> Correct me if I'm wrong but tab-completion doesn't work out of the box for
> standard python interpreter.

You are right. Tab Completion does not work out of box for standard
python interpreter. But IDLE has auto-completion on . (os. will give
all supported methods and parameters for os module).

-- 
Senthil

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
		-- Sigmund Freud

From abpillai at gmail.com  Mon May 31 11:34:32 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 15:04:32 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Extracting zipfile
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik9ySlBVjg-8s0ZpK5TaPXSgu6-H-prOk-UaJRr@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinMExMdCDVXe0Axlzajtb0ocdL_edyCV99Q1PFF@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinYT_gUSOLiRRlcaUgTkVYR4CG9AYP8PlMS3F6v@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTil1a3XPzKDoCbW8itVrseierEb5x060qgXFankd@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimW9uL49XyfhweWlzOULXnIesO41KmvVS8OsyAC@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTik9ySlBVjg-8s0ZpK5TaPXSgu6-H-prOk-UaJRr@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilXi6VR8DpH-nePMGXzNICabg5Vd_0xhAQTCp9Z@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Jeffrey Jose <jeffjosejeff at gmail.com>wrote:

> Correct me if I'm wrong but tab-completion doesn't work out of the box for
> standard python interpreter.
>

Not by default. But it is quite easy to enable.

http://docs.python.org/library/rlcompleter.html


>
>

-- 
--Anand

From ankur at thinklabs.in  Mon May 31 11:40:26 2010
From: ankur at thinklabs.in (Ankur Gupta)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 15:10:26 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] UI Designing
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilFccngwcFvFpqM6voZK_iFf2O4Eb4w1yyn_qfk@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilFccngwcFvFpqM6voZK_iFf2O4Eb4w1yyn_qfk@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik_d1pPHnX66KRDUr1yBsrgg3WoNqoNAAWMTGJm@mail.gmail.com>

Pencil is a firefox extension with which you can make wireframes. If you
want to make wireframes that look like paper prototypes then just search for
stencils.

On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 3:52 AM, Gaurav Kalra <gvkalra at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi.
>
> Can you please share what sort of UI Design tools the members on the
> list currently use for designing web applications ?
>
>
> --
> With Thanks
> Gaurav Kalra
> gvkalra at googlemail.com
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>

From abpillai at gmail.com  Mon May 31 11:46:35 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 15:16:35 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Harvestman error
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinHg8FYWWCTeTUgdReush5NWfwQNcAPf4jp9_or@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinHg8FYWWCTeTUgdReush5NWfwQNcAPf4jp9_or@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinSOULR4S5rCCxdx4gM_S_0uFgv3L5tR1nRuzKm@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 9:56 PM, JAGANADH G <jaganadhg at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear All I was trying to run Harvestman(A Python tool for web harvesting).
> I got the following error
> http://pastebin.com/uPzUs0Xw
>
> My configuration file is http://pastebin.com/dfhiy2Q6
>
> Can any body help me regarding this.
>
> I was trying to harvest my blog with a word filter 'Python'
>

 There is no word filter anymore. You hit upon a bug which seems to
 still apply the word-filter code :)

 For filtering based on words or regular expressions on the page content,
 you can implement a custom crawler. It is pretty easy and a sample
 already exists. Just modify the code to suit the keyword(s) you want
 to filter.

 Look for "searchingcrawler.py" inside apps/samples folder and
 modify the code.


>
> --
> **********************************
> JAGANADH G
> http://jaganadhg.freeflux.net/blog
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



-- 
--Anand

From steve at lonetwin.net  Mon May 31 11:53:02 2010
From: steve at lonetwin.net (steve)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 15:23:02 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] UI Designing
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikqmSHHo-tzcCm0PvEtPmP_x9rWgsZ9M6ZwyDrf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilFccngwcFvFpqM6voZK_iFf2O4Eb4w1yyn_qfk@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikqmSHHo-tzcCm0PvEtPmP_x9rWgsZ9M6ZwyDrf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C0386FE.6080408@lonetwin.net>

Hi,

Please, please, please ..do not top post !

On 05/31/2010 02:58 PM, Jeffrey Jose wrote:
> For UI design, I
>
> 1. Start off with pen and paper, quickly mock up several designs and
> interaction patterns
> 2. Proceed onto Photoshop/Illustrator to get a feel of how things would
> "look" at the end.
>
> Repeat 1 and 2 over and over
>
> Once I'm ok with a design, I proceed to the next phase, probably writing
> some code.
>

I stumbled upon this recently which might help with 1 and 2:
http://konigi.com/tools/graph-paper

cheers,
- steve

-- 
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what i'm stumbling into: http://lonetwin.stumbleupon.com/

From kgthegreat at gmail.com  Mon May 31 11:53:54 2010
From: kgthegreat at gmail.com (Kumar Gaurav)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 15:23:54 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] UI Designing
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilFccngwcFvFpqM6voZK_iFf2O4Eb4w1yyn_qfk@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilFccngwcFvFpqM6voZK_iFf2O4Eb4w1yyn_qfk@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinPy-Zj3eQK2Vfu0FWFex_Y-r12Oiwq5CM0WNgn@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 3:52 AM, Gaurav Kalra <gvkalra at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi.
>
> Can you please share what sort of UI Design tools the members on the
> list currently use for designing web applications ?

If you are talking about some quick wireframes and prototyping then
check out http://www.balsamiq.com/builds/mockups-web-demo/

The free demo version also might suffice in lot of cases.

Balsamiq also has a useful tool in their market place which allows you
to convert the image to html.



-- 
Kumar Gaurav
Latest Post -- Gitting things right
http://wp.me/pbU2Q-2j

From steve at lonetwin.net  Mon May 31 11:57:20 2010
From: steve at lonetwin.net (steve)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 15:27:20 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] UI Designing
In-Reply-To: <4C0386FE.6080408@lonetwin.net>
References: <AANLkTilFccngwcFvFpqM6voZK_iFf2O4Eb4w1yyn_qfk@mail.gmail.com>	<AANLkTikqmSHHo-tzcCm0PvEtPmP_x9rWgsZ9M6ZwyDrf@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C0386FE.6080408@lonetwin.net>
Message-ID: <4C038800.7080401@lonetwin.net>

Hi,

addendum ...

On 05/31/2010 03:23 PM, steve wrote:
> Hi,
>
> [...snip...]
> I stumbled upon this recently which might help with 1 and 2:
> http://konigi.com/tools/graph-paper
>

I am not a designer, but a quick google threw up this:

http://www.geekchix.org/blog/2010/01/03/a-collection-of-printable-sketch-templates-and-sketch-books-for-wireframing/

which might be interesting too !

cheers,
- steve
-- 
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what i'm stumbling into: http://lonetwin.stumbleupon.com/

From jaganadhg at gmail.com  Mon May 31 12:01:38 2010
From: jaganadhg at gmail.com (JAGANADH G)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 15:31:38 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Harvestman error
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinSOULR4S5rCCxdx4gM_S_0uFgv3L5tR1nRuzKm@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinHg8FYWWCTeTUgdReush5NWfwQNcAPf4jp9_or@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinSOULR4S5rCCxdx4gM_S_0uFgv3L5tR1nRuzKm@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimdQJy9Y11gAei3OmoXZtJvfpdYJ0dNemBAUA9j@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai <
abpillai at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 9:56 PM, JAGANADH G <jaganadhg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Dear All I was trying to run Harvestman(A Python tool for web
> harvesting).
> > I got the following error
> > http://pastebin.com/uPzUs0Xw
> >
> > My configuration file is http://pastebin.com/dfhiy2Q6
> >
> > Can any body help me regarding this.
> >
> > I was trying to harvest my blog with a word filter 'Python'
> >
>
>  There is no word filter anymore. You hit upon a bug which seems to
>  still apply the word-filter code :)
>
>  For filtering based on words or regular expressions on the page content,
>  you can implement a custom crawler. It is pretty easy and a sample
>  already exists. Just modify the code to suit the keyword(s) you want
>  to filter.
>
>  Look for "searchingcrawler.py" inside apps/samples folder and
>  modify the code.
>
>
Thanks Anand .
I will try this


-- 
**********************************
JAGANADH G
http://jaganadhg.freeflux.net/blog

From rmathews at gmail.com  Mon May 31 12:11:16 2010
From: rmathews at gmail.com (Roshan Mathews)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 15:41:16 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] UI Designing
In-Reply-To: <4C038800.7080401@lonetwin.net>
References: <AANLkTilFccngwcFvFpqM6voZK_iFf2O4Eb4w1yyn_qfk@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikqmSHHo-tzcCm0PvEtPmP_x9rWgsZ9M6ZwyDrf@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C0386FE.6080408@lonetwin.net> <4C038800.7080401@lonetwin.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilLGPDoKfFUYvf5sQfnfoLZpmYcybO8CifqGQA8@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 15:27, steve <steve at lonetwin.net> wrote:
> http://www.geekchix.org/blog/2010/01/03/a-collection-of-printable-sketch-templates-and-sketch-books-for-wireframing/
>

That's a very nice find, Steve.  Although I guess it's something that
only the artistically inclined could use well.  I usually prefer text
("there's this input, which will respond so to valid input, and so to
invalid input") and boxes and arrows on paper/whiteboard.

Roshan Mathews

From noufal at gmail.com  Mon May 31 13:35:23 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 17:05:23 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Extracting zipfile
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik9ySlBVjg-8s0ZpK5TaPXSgu6-H-prOk-UaJRr@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinMExMdCDVXe0Axlzajtb0ocdL_edyCV99Q1PFF@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinYT_gUSOLiRRlcaUgTkVYR4CG9AYP8PlMS3F6v@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTil1a3XPzKDoCbW8itVrseierEb5x060qgXFankd@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimW9uL49XyfhweWlzOULXnIesO41KmvVS8OsyAC@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTik9ySlBVjg-8s0ZpK5TaPXSgu6-H-prOk-UaJRr@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinFRvknsUkTtUSTL7_wwQGLRbzifWj6TiZtfVBu@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Jeffrey Jose <jeffjosejeff at gmail.com> wrote:
> Correct me if I'm wrong but tab-completion doesn't work out of the box for
> standard python interpreter.

Not by default but you need to stick 2 or 3 lines into your startup
file to get it going.

-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From fslash8 at gmail.com  Mon May 31 13:41:07 2010
From: fslash8 at gmail.com (Shiv Shankar)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 17:11:07 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Extracting zipfile
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinFRvknsUkTtUSTL7_wwQGLRbzifWj6TiZtfVBu@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinMExMdCDVXe0Axlzajtb0ocdL_edyCV99Q1PFF@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTinYT_gUSOLiRRlcaUgTkVYR4CG9AYP8PlMS3F6v@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTil1a3XPzKDoCbW8itVrseierEb5x060qgXFankd@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTimW9uL49XyfhweWlzOULXnIesO41KmvVS8OsyAC@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTik9ySlBVjg-8s0ZpK5TaPXSgu6-H-prOk-UaJRr@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTinFRvknsUkTtUSTL7_wwQGLRbzifWj6TiZtfVBu@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimojGAZZ6MO0d0--dYUzakIRf7UHivjngpyRfk3@mail.gmail.com>

You could try Dream Pie, its from the same guy who worked on code
completion for idle. Its a pretty cool replacement for both IDLE and
out of the box interpreter.

-- shiv

From murugadoss2884 at gmail.com  Mon May 31 14:04:12 2010
From: murugadoss2884 at gmail.com (murugadoss)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 21:04:12 +0900
Subject: [BangPypers] packing floating data
Message-ID: <AANLkTin_LYvvTccpB6dAt50mbG8kmg6jq6SuJofbKIBX@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I am trying to pack a float value like 45.90,43.78,543.87. i am using
struct.pack( ) function. When i unpack (using struct.unpack) and print it i
am getting only real part of the number.

Type of the variable is long,
var = 45.90
data = struct.pack("!l",float(var))

when i unpack and print, i am getting as 45,0,0,0. I am using byte type
while unpacking [struct.unpack("!B",data) ].

2. How to unpack short and long type data.

can anyone help me.
Thanks in advance

--
Thanks & Regards
V.Murugadoss

From noufal at gmail.com  Mon May 31 14:14:14 2010
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 17:44:14 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] packing floating data
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin_LYvvTccpB6dAt50mbG8kmg6jq6SuJofbKIBX@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTin_LYvvTccpB6dAt50mbG8kmg6jq6SuJofbKIBX@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim0EHehUBhbTweXM3Z9t08F9okQMgnquPu3Dx-Z@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 5:34 PM, murugadoss <murugadoss2884 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I am trying to pack a float value like 45.90,43.78,543.87. i am using
> struct.pack( ) function. When i unpack (using struct.unpack) and print it i
> am getting only real part of the number.
>
> Type of the variable is long,
> var = 45.90
> data = struct.pack("!l",float(var))

http://docs.python.org/library/struct.html#format-characters





-- 
~noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From murugadoss2884 at gmail.com  Mon May 31 14:52:58 2010
From: murugadoss2884 at gmail.com (murugadoss)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 21:52:58 +0900
Subject: [BangPypers] packing floating data
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim0EHehUBhbTweXM3Z9t08F9okQMgnquPu3Dx-Z@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTin_LYvvTccpB6dAt50mbG8kmg6jq6SuJofbKIBX@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTim0EHehUBhbTweXM3Z9t08F9okQMgnquPu3Dx-Z@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikmXG-qFm2MWGShbbI9MtkodGHeF6bSYLgRkKWl@mail.gmail.com>

hi,

When i pack and unpack, i am able to get real part of the float number. can
anyone please tell me, how i can pack both the real and imaginary part. Do i
need to split n store the values ??

--
Thanks & Regards
V.Murugadoss


On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 5:34 PM, murugadoss <murugadoss2884 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I am trying to pack a float value like 45.90,43.78,543.87. i am using
> > struct.pack( ) function. When i unpack (using struct.unpack) and print it
> i
> > am getting only real part of the number.
> >
> > Type of the variable is long,
> > var = 45.90
> > data = struct.pack("!l",float(var))
>
> http://docs.python.org/library/struct.html#format-characters
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> ~noufal
> http://nibrahim.net.in
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>

From srsy70 at gmail.com  Mon May 31 15:00:10 2010
From: srsy70 at gmail.com (S.Ramaswamy)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 18:30:10 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] Extracting zipfile
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinFRvknsUkTtUSTL7_wwQGLRbzifWj6TiZtfVBu@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinMExMdCDVXe0Axlzajtb0ocdL_edyCV99Q1PFF@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTinYT_gUSOLiRRlcaUgTkVYR4CG9AYP8PlMS3F6v@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTil1a3XPzKDoCbW8itVrseierEb5x060qgXFankd@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTimW9uL49XyfhweWlzOULXnIesO41KmvVS8OsyAC@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTik9ySlBVjg-8s0ZpK5TaPXSgu6-H-prOk-UaJRr@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTinFRvknsUkTtUSTL7_wwQGLRbzifWj6TiZtfVBu@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimCgxCzS4_C3jbsC-IpSuhbk7aXCda4eb91Vqtd@mail.gmail.com>

>
> Not by default but you need to stick 2 or 3 lines into your startup
> file to get it going.
>
> --
>
> Tab completion with the standard interpreter doesn't work on Windows even
with those 2-3 lines in the startup file - GNU Readline doesn't work on
Windows AFAIK.

With IPython you can get it working on Windows with the PyReadline (
https://launchpad.net/pyreadline ). DreamPie tab-completion also works OOB
on Windows.

Ramaswamy

From abpillai at gmail.com  Mon May 31 15:05:33 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 18:35:33 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] packing floating data
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikmXG-qFm2MWGShbbI9MtkodGHeF6bSYLgRkKWl@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTin_LYvvTccpB6dAt50mbG8kmg6jq6SuJofbKIBX@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTim0EHehUBhbTweXM3Z9t08F9okQMgnquPu3Dx-Z@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikmXG-qFm2MWGShbbI9MtkodGHeF6bSYLgRkKWl@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilBc1kJ6pfWKgDN3v_sjbemydHhHIUVWdjU483n@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 6:22 PM, murugadoss <murugadoss2884 at gmail.com>wrote:

> hi,
>
> When i pack and unpack, i am able to get real part of the float number. can
> anyone please tell me, how i can pack both the real and imaginary part. Do
> i
> need to split n store the values ??
>

 You seem to keep posting without taking the hints. Noufal's reply
 was to try and lead you to the answer which is the Python documentation
 on formatting for struct.pack method.

 Please don't expect answers to be presented on a platter. All of us
 are very nice and all that, but if you have habit (as you seem to) of
 posting basic questions without looking it up yourselves first, it
 gets a bit tiresome pretty soon.

 In this case you need to use 'f' as format character.
 Try this.

 >>> s=struct.pack('f', 45.90)
 >>> s
 '\x9a\x997B'
 >>> struct.unpack('f',s)
 (45.900001525878906,)

 This is mentioned quite clearly in struct module's documentation
 - Have you ever tried to see that ?

Thanks

--Anand


>
> --
> Thanks & Regards
> V.Murugadoss
>
>
> On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 5:34 PM, murugadoss <murugadoss2884 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I am trying to pack a float value like 45.90,43.78,543.87. i am using
> > > struct.pack( ) function. When i unpack (using struct.unpack) and print
> it
> > i
> > > am getting only real part of the number.
> > >
> > > Type of the variable is long,
> > > var = 45.90
> > > data = struct.pack("!l",float(var))
> >
> > http://docs.python.org/library/struct.html#format-characters
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > ~noufal
> > http://nibrahim.net.in
> > _______________________________________________
> > BangPypers mailing list
> > BangPypers at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
> >
> _______________________________________________
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> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



-- 
--Anand

From srinivas_thatiparthy at akebonosoft.com  Mon May 31 15:21:13 2010
From: srinivas_thatiparthy at akebonosoft.com (Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 18:51:13 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] packing floating data
References: <AANLkTin_LYvvTccpB6dAt50mbG8kmg6jq6SuJofbKIBX@mail.gmail.com><AANLkTim0EHehUBhbTweXM3Z9t08F9okQMgnquPu3Dx-Z@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikmXG-qFm2MWGShbbI9MtkodGHeF6bSYLgRkKWl@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4EF2BF691B890546B2694C99A2852F0C01D833AA@astserver3.akebonosoft.com>

Yes, you need to pack real and imaginary parts separately.I mean ,there is no way to pass Complex object to pack method(well,struct
performs conversions between Python values and C structs represented as
Python bytes objects),so

struct.pack('ff',realpart,imaginarypart) #provided both parts are floats.

Thanks&Regards,
Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy, 
Mobile:9393099772, 



-----Original Message-----
From: bangpypers-bounces+srinivas_thatiparthy=akebonosoft.com at python.org on behalf of murugadoss
Sent: Mon 5/31/2010 6:22 PM
To: Bangalore Python Users Group - India
Subject: Re: [BangPypers] packing floating data
 
hi,

When i pack and unpack, i am able to get real part of the float number. can
anyone please tell me, how i can pack both the real and imaginary part. Do i
need to split n store the values ??

--
Thanks & Regards
V.Murugadoss


On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 5:34 PM, murugadoss <murugadoss2884 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I am trying to pack a float value like 45.90,43.78,543.87. i am using
> > struct.pack( ) function. When i unpack (using struct.unpack) and print it
> i
> > am getting only real part of the number.
> >
> > Type of the variable is long,
> > var = 45.90
> > data = struct.pack("!l",float(var))
>
> http://docs.python.org/library/struct.html#format-characters
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> ~noufal
> http://nibrahim.net.in
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>
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From abpillai at gmail.com  Mon May 31 15:37:26 2010
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 19:07:26 +0530
Subject: [BangPypers] packing floating data
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikmXG-qFm2MWGShbbI9MtkodGHeF6bSYLgRkKWl@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTin_LYvvTccpB6dAt50mbG8kmg6jq6SuJofbKIBX@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTim0EHehUBhbTweXM3Z9t08F9okQMgnquPu3Dx-Z@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikmXG-qFm2MWGShbbI9MtkodGHeF6bSYLgRkKWl@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinjEDIUUVZDB5mXLktzChaJNjkmx0A1Ro_ItryT@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 6:22 PM, murugadoss <murugadoss2884 at gmail.com>wrote:

> hi,
>
> When i pack and unpack, i am able to get real part of the float number. can
> anyone please tell me, how i can pack both the real and imaginary part. Do
> i
> need to split n store the values ??
>

  Did I imagine this or did you say "imaginary part" of a float ? Maybe you
  meant "fractional part" ?


>
> --
> Thanks & Regards
> V.Murugadoss
>
>
> On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 5:34 PM, murugadoss <murugadoss2884 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I am trying to pack a float value like 45.90,43.78,543.87. i am using
> > > struct.pack( ) function. When i unpack (using struct.unpack) and print
> it
> > i
> > > am getting only real part of the number.
> > >
> > > Type of the variable is long,
> > > var = 45.90
> > > data = struct.pack("!l",float(var))
> >
> > http://docs.python.org/library/struct.html#format-characters
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > ~noufal
> > http://nibrahim.net.in
> > _______________________________________________
> > BangPypers mailing list
> > BangPypers at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
> >
> _______________________________________________
> BangPypers mailing list
> BangPypers at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
>



-- 
--Anand