[BangPypers] A question for us...
Kiran Kumar
mkirank at gmail.com
Fri Mar 13 21:19:43 CET 2009
Hi Vishal,
Here is my personal take on it as far as "bring python closer to
corporate guys" I do not want to change the whole world to use my favorite
programming language instead I will find one who uses it and work for them
*If I really wanted* to develop only in that X language.
Programming languages are just tools and each of them they have their own
place (COBOL is still being used in a lot of places :-) ) even if you think
and know there are better ways to do it. Companies like IBM are there in
this business from a very long time and there are a lot of smart people
working there and they are doing what is probably the best for them.
I have had to personally develop in many languages (java included), so If
I could I would go to this conference to attend only ola bini and craig
mclanahan's session (there might be a few more good speakers but I'm
familiar with these two) , these guys are very talented developers have
written a lot of open source software and are not the typical "coporate"
programmers , they would fit into any developer conference .
Thanks for getting me to post to this list though :-).
-Kiran
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 1:09 AM, Vishal <vsapre80 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> I received this invite to the Great Indian Developer summit.
>
> The four day long summit focuses on .NET, Java, Web and other things.
>
> I am wondering why there is nothing related to Python in this conference.
> Is corporate computing still only about .NET, Java and Web with
> ColdFusion/AIR etc.
>
> Given the fact that almost everything that is discussed here can be
> achieved in Python, what should be done to bring Python closer to the
> Corporate guys.
>
> What can be done about this at our end? I remember having read that Java
> became 'Java' not just because of the VM concept but also because of the
> aggressive marketing that SUN did for it.
>
> what you say?
>
>
> Thanks and best regards,
> Vishal Sapre
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> <#11ffe7dfb2822692_11ffb80b8ab46df4_workshop> GIDS.JAVA Conference
> [Apr 24, 2009]* Timings Track 1 Track 2 Track 3 Track 4 08:00 - 09:00
>
> *Registration, Check-in and Welcome Address*
> 09:00-09:50
>
> *Computing in the Cloud<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/sessions.html#session57>
> *
> *Craig McClanahan<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/speakers.html#McClanahan>
> *
>
> *Introduction to JRuby<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/sessions.html#session65>
> *
> *Ola Bini<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/speakers.html#Bini>
> *
>
> *Struts 2.0 Deep Dive<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/sessions.html#session56>
> *
> *Prabhu Sunderraman<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/speakers.html#Sunderraman>
> *
>
> *Openness within: CodePlex.com<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/sessions.html#session401>
> *
> *Bijoy Singhal<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/speakers.html#Singhal>
> *
> 09:50 - 10:10
>
> *Expo opening / Coffee & Refreshments*
> 10:10-11:00
>
> *Know Your Java?<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/sessions.html#session53>
> *
> *Venkat Subramaniam<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/speakers.html#Subramaniam>
> *
>
> *Introducing REST: The Starbucks Example<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/sessions.html#session52>
> *
> *Jim Webber<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/speakers.html#Webber>
> *
>
> *How-to Win the RAD Race Against Microsoft .Net with Java<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/sessions.html#session86>
> *
> *Frank Nimphius<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/speakers.html#Nimphius>
> *
>
> *AS/400 Platform Interfacing & Migration Strategies for Enterprise Java<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/sessions.html#session88>
> *
> *Narsimha Bheemdi<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/speakers.html#Bheemdi>
> *
> 11:10-11:40
>
> *Plenary - The Evolving Shifts In Software Development, Ashish Masand,
> Country Head, Micro Focus*
> 11:50-12:40
>
> *JPA2 (JPA + Bean Validation)<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/sessions.html#session89>
> *
> *Emmanuel Bernard<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/speakers.html#Bernard>
> *
>
> *RESTful? What's a RESTful?<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/sessions.html#session58>
> *
> *Craig McClanahan<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/speakers.html#McClanahan>
> *
>
> *Unleashing the Power of Java on Intel<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/sessions.html#session83>
> *
> *Mukesh Gangadhar<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/speakers.html#Gangadhar>
> *
>
> *Event Driven Architecture- Bringing SOA and CEP Together<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/sessions.html#session402>
> *
> *Kumar Roshan<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/speakers.html#Roshan>
> *
> 12:40-13:30
>
> *Lunch*
> 13:30-14:20
>
> *Taming Wild Entities - Tuning performance of JPA Applications<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/sessions.html#session67>
> *
> *Debu Panda<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/speakers.html#Panda>
> *
>
> *Building RESTful Applications with JAX-RS<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/sessions.html#session60>
> *
> *Craig McClanahan<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/speakers.html#McClanahan>
> *
>
> *Integrating Geo-Spatial Visualizations into Business Intelligence
> Dashboards*
> *Abhinav Agarwal*
>
> *OSGi in the Enterprise<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/sessions.html#session85>
> *
> *Mike Keith<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/speakers.html#Keith>
> *
> 14:30-15:00
>
> *Plenary - Strategies for Sofwtare Developers to Emerge Stronger, Dr.
> Rangachar Kasthuri<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/speakers.html#Kasthuri>,
> Worldwide President, IEEE Computer Society*
> 15:10-16:00
>
> *Programming Groovy<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/sessions.html#session54>
> *
> *Venkat Subramaniam<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/speakers.html#Subramaniam>
> *
>
> *The Next Generation of Java EE<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/sessions.html#session84>
> *
> *Mike Keith<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/speakers.html#Keith>
> *
>
> *Diagnosing Production Java Applications<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/sessions.html#session68>
> *
> *Debu Panda<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/speakers.html#Panda>
> *
>
> *Azure Services for Java Developers<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/sessions.html#session403>
> *
> *Janakiraman MSV<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/speakers.html#MSV>
> *
> 16:00-16:20
>
> *Coffee & Refreshments*
> 16:20-17:10
>
> *Guerrilla SOA<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/sessions.html#session51>
> *
> *Jim Webber<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/speakers.html#Webber>
> *
>
> *Building RESTful Applications with Ruby on Rails<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/sessions.html#session59>
> *
> *Craig McClanahan<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/speakers.html#McClanahan>
> *
>
> *Testing Java with Ruby<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/sessions.html#session66>
> *
> *Ola Bini<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/speakers.html#Bini>
> *
>
> *Building Web Services Using Spring<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/sessions.html#session55>
> *
> *Prabhu Sunderraman<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/speakers.html#Sunderraman>
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> *Click here to register<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/registration.html>or scroll down to fill
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> <#11ffe7dfb2822692_11ffb80b8ab46df4_java> GIDS.WORKSHOPS [Apr 25,
> 2009] * Timings Track 1 Track 2 Track 3 Track 4 07:30 - 08:00
>
> *Registration, Check-in and Welcome Address*
> 08:00-10:30
>
> *GET Connected: A Tutorial on Web-based Integration<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/workshops.html#workshop2>
> *
> *Jim Webber<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/speakers.html#Webber>
> *
>
> *Test Driven Development in .NET<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/workshops.html#workshop5>
> *
> *Venkat Subramaniam<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/speakers.html#Subramaniam>
> *
>
> *Build Enterprise Mashups using Adobe Flash Platform<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/workshops.html#workshop14>
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> *Raghunath Rao Thricovil<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/speakers.html#Thricovil>,
> Anirudh Sasikumar<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/speakers.html#Sasikumar>
> *
>
> *Mixing ORM & XML Persistence<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/workshops.html#workshop11>
> *
> *Mike Keith<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/speakers.html#Keith>
> *
> 10:30-10:45
>
> *Expo opening / Coffee & Refreshments*
> 10:45-13:15
>
> *JRuby In Action<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/workshops.html#workshop3>
> *
> *Ola Bini<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/speakers.html#Bini>
> *
>
> *Building the DemoFest Application<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/workshops.html#workshop9>
> *
> *Mike Benkovich<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/speakers.html#Benkovich>
> *
>
> *Synthesizing Data from the Web<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/workshops.html#workshop7>
> *
> *Jon Aizen<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/speakers.html#Aizen>,
> Amit Kumar<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/speakers.html#Kumar>
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> *Hibernate Search: Adding Search to your Java Applications - Deep Dive<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/workshops.html#workshop13>
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> *Emmanuel Bernard<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/speakers.html#Bernard>
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> *Introduction to Oslo<http://www.benchmarkemail.in/link/redirect.asp?g=0&c=8208&l=13311584&e=vsapre80@gmail.com&url=http://www.developersummit.com/workshops.html#workshop12>
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