[BangPypers] Certification

[Ranganath s]

Yes, i agree with you. Certification is just a stamp to say your skills are
up to some milestone. I that makes you get lots  oppurtunities . But  again
certifications has to be done in that manner where in it can sustain that
wait to believe that if a guy has done this certification, He has to be a
guy whos knowledge is 5/6  else certification is of no use. frankly speaking
certification is some thing  which even i am not a big fan ..:)

-R


On 10/24/07, Anand Balachandran Pillai <abpillai at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I am not a fan of certifications, but I think he raises a valid point.
> In today's IT industry, "certifications" are a fact and are here to stay.
> Of course, the most important thing is to build up skills by yourself.
> Especially in learning a language, there is nothing like teaching
> yourself and writing code. I know this myself, since I have taught
> myself four programming languages (C/C++, Java & Python)
> without the recourse of any "formal training", OTOH just by
> learning from the Internet and participating in forums and writing
> my own code and developing my own projects.
>
> Still, having a "certification program" seems to increase the
> popularity and effectiveness of adoption of a language in the IT
> industry. Python is gaining popularity and increasing adoption
> everyday and having a real certification program for it shall only
> increase the profile of the language. Especially in a software industry
> market like India (and Bangalore specifically) it looks like
> certifications
> are in demand.
>
> I have often found it difficult to assess the programming skills and
> knowledge of candidates appearing as "Python programmers". In
> my previous company which was a Python shop, a typical candidate
> interview used to play out like this...
>
> Me: So, how will you rate yourself in Python say in a scale 1-5 ?
> Candidate: Ummmm.... like 3.
> Me: Ok, very good. Can you write out a list comprehension to compute
> the sum of a series ?
> Candidate: Err... what is a list comprehension ?
> Me: Ah, I thought you knew it. What did you tell me your Python
> experience was ?
> Candidate: I have worked in Plone and Zope and have written Python
> scripts.
> Me: Ok...
>
> I am not trying to denigrate Plone/Zope developers here  (I know they
> are great platforms and there are amazing Python programmers who
> do Zope/Plone primarily for a living). But I found it difficult to
> separate the
> guy who has been doing only Plone/Zope customization and the guy
> who has worked in Python as a language away from "platforms".
>
> Perhaps a certification could be of use here. Not from the geek
> perspective,
> but from companies looking to hire Python programmers. It does make
> a lot of  practical sense.
>
> To answer the OP's question, there are no certification programs I know
> for Python in Bangalore. However, I think there is a requirement and space
> for this and we as a group should try and look into this. Any ideas ?
>
> Regards
>
> --Anand
>
> On 10/24/07, Sridhar Ratnakumar <sridhar.ratna at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 10/23/07, Goutham D L <dl.goutham at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > Are there any Python certification programmes in bangalore?
> > >
> >
> > So I tried googling for this certification thing and came up with
> >
> http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-announce-list/2005-June/004077.html
> >
> > .. also this,
> >
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Python-Interview-Questions-Answers-Explanations/dp/1933804548
> >
> > If you intention behind doing this "certification" is to build up your
> > profile and increase the job prospects, just write software in Python
> > -- and add that to your resume.
> >
> > Here's your map,
> >
> > 1. Learn Python - http://www.ibiblio.org/obp/thinkCSpy/
> > 2. Master Python - http://diveintopython.org/
> > 3. Read code
> > 4. Write code - sourceforge.net et. al
> > 5. Goto 3
> >
> > Examinations are not required, but hacker spirit is.
> >
> > --
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>
> --
> -Anand
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