From jnoller at gmail.com  Sat Aug  1 01:07:11 2009
From: jnoller at gmail.com (Jesse Noller)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:07:11 -0400
Subject: [python-advocacy] [PSF-Members] Stack Overflow's Dev Days
	Looking For Python Speakers
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On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Ted Pollari<tpollari at gmail.com> wrote:
> Anyone interested in representing Python or at least in pointing Joel
> Spolsky in a good direction?
>
> From the transcript of the Stack Overflow Podcast at:
> ?https://stackoverflow.fogbugz.com/default.asp?W29071?:
>
> """Spolsky: ?I have a request of our listeners if you're listening to this
> show. We're trying to organize these stack overflow dev days and I've found
> alot of good speakers on alot of good topics but what I really want is some
> Python speakers. People to do a python tutorial in each of the ten cities
> and I don't have any Python speakers lined up at all and I don't really know
> who the good Python teachers and Python tutors are. So if you've ever gotten
> a Python tutorial in person or you've heard somebody speaking on Python who
> you thought was absolutely brilliant and fun to listen to and taught you
> alot in an hour. Which is what we want to happen at the stack overflow dev
> days. Could you please tell me who they are? and what their name is and even
> where they live? and do that by emailing that
> todevdays at stackoverflow.com?which is our standard dev days address for any
> kind of dev days question about dev days."""
>
>

I volunteered for the Boston Dev Day - now the only question is what
to show them!

jesse

From cool-rr at cool-rr.com  Mon Aug  3 14:53:01 2009
From: cool-rr at cool-rr.com (cool-RR)
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:53:01 +0300
Subject: [python-advocacy] PythonTurtle
Message-ID: <a422b72d0908030553xada545fk6b5d34dfad3eb524@mail.gmail.com>

Hello PSF,

My name is Ram Rachum, and I'm a Python programmer. I wanted to show you a
little side project that I have just released.

Here is its website: http://pythonturtle.com
Which explains everything you need to know about it.

You probably the know the turtle.py module which is part of the standard
library of Python: I was aware of it when I decided to start this project.
The main difference between PythonTurtle and the turtle module is that
PythonTurtle is a standalone application, easier to use and with illustrated
help screens.

Sincerely,
Ram Rachum
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From fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk  Mon Aug  3 18:34:52 2009
From: fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk (Michael Foord)
Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 17:34:52 +0100
Subject: [python-advocacy] PythonTurtle
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cool-RR wrote:
> Hello PSF,
>
> My name is Ram Rachum, and I'm a Python programmer. I wanted to show 
> you a little side project that I have just released.
>
> Here is its website: http://pythonturtle.com <http://pythonturtle.com/>
> Which explains everything you need to know about it.
>
> You probably the know the turtle.py module which is part of the 
> standard library of Python: I was aware of it when I decided to start 
> this project. The main difference between PythonTurtle and the turtle 
> module is that PythonTurtle is a standalone application, easier to use 
> and with illustrated help screens.

Could you share code with the standard library module? The maintainer of 
the standard library turtle is very active.

For a version that can run in the browser I recommend Silverlight / 
Moonlight that will let you run Python code in the browser - and 
provides a canvas for the UI.

All the best,

Michael
>
> Sincerely,
> Ram Rachum
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From cool-rr at cool-rr.com  Mon Aug  3 18:44:27 2009
From: cool-rr at cool-rr.com (cool-RR)
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 19:44:27 +0300
Subject: [python-advocacy] PythonTurtle
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	<4A7711AC.4040106@voidspace.org.uk>
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On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 7:34 PM, Michael Foord <fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk>wrote:

> cool-RR wrote:
>
>> Hello PSF,
>>
>> My name is Ram Rachum, and I'm a Python programmer. I wanted to show you a
>> little side project that I have just released.
>>
>> Here is its website: http://pythonturtle.com <http://pythonturtle.com/>
>> Which explains everything you need to know about it.
>>
>> You probably the know the turtle.py module which is part of the standard
>> library of Python: I was aware of it when I decided to start this project.
>> The main difference between PythonTurtle and the turtle module is that
>> PythonTurtle is a standalone application, easier to use and with illustrated
>> help screens.
>>
>
> Could you share code with the standard library module? The maintainer of
> the standard library turtle is very active.


I've met Gregor at EuroPython - He seemed to be enthusiastic about
PythonTurtle. Now that it's released I sent it to him and I'm waiting for
his feedback. I don't think there will be much sharing of code though, since
turtle.py is in Tkinter (I think) and PythonTurtle is in wxPython. Also, the
turtle-moving code is quite simple, the big time-drainer was writing a
decent shell (Which I am proud to say can now compete with IDLE.)


>
> For a version that can run in the browser I recommend Silverlight /
> Moonlight that will let you run Python code in the browser - and provides a
> canvas for the UI.


That will indeed be relevant for future version - Thanks for the tip

Ram.
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From amk at amk.ca  Thu Aug 20 16:11:34 2009
From: amk at amk.ca (A.M. Kuchling)
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 10:11:34 -0400
Subject: [python-advocacy] Teaching open source
Message-ID: <20090820141134.GA8600@amk-desktop.matrixgroup.net>

This week's edition of Linux Weekly News has an article that 
references <http://teachingopensource.org/>.  From the about page:

	   TeachingOpenSource.org was set up in March 2009 to serve as
	   a neutral collaboration point for everyone involved in
	   Teaching Open Source, where we can:

	       * Work out Open Source educational models, support and
                 funding schemes, community relationships, and other
                 issues.

               * Advocate for the changes that are necessary to
                 further the goal of teaching Open Source.

Anyone interested in seeing Python get listed as a mentor project
(http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/FOSS_Mentor_Projects)?

--amk