From stefan_ml at behnel.de Fri Aug 1 11:07:50 2008 From: stefan_ml at behnel.de (Stefan Behnel) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 11:07:50 +0200 Subject: [XML-SIG] How to Parse XML with Single Element & Multiple Attribures In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4892D266.3060801@behnel.de> Hi, tjabaut wrote: > I have an app where the API returns an XML state with a single element > that contains a number of attributes (depending on which API is > called). > > I would like ot know how I can step through these Attributes so that I > can populate an XHTML results page. # using Python 2.5 from xml.etree import ElementTree tree = ElementTree.fromstring(the_xml_string) root = tree.getroot() # and now using the dict-like attrib property: for name, value in root.attrib.items(): print name, value Stefan From rrussell at adobe.com Wed Aug 6 19:30:09 2008 From: rrussell at adobe.com (Robert Russell) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 10:30:09 -0700 Subject: [XML-SIG] problem installing pyxml on Vista 64 Message-ID: <0DEEE69571F4CD4C908C8EB25448538B024DFD9E@namail2.corp.adobe.com> Hi, I have a vista 64 bit OS installed with MS visual studio 2003 and Active State python 2.5. I am in need of the pyxml module but the installer does not work. The win installer complains at the beginning that python 2.4 is not found in the registry. (ActiveState 2.5 python probably does not populate the registry the same way that stock python.org's 2.4 would). When I run the platform independent install by typing "python setup.py build" I get this error after many files are processed: File "C:\Python25\lib\distutils\msvccompiler.py", line 616, in get_msvc_paths % (self.__root, self.__version)) AttributeError: MSVCCompiler instance has no attribute '_MSVCCompiler__root' I think if I install Python 2.4 it is going to collide unfavorably w/ my ActiveState instance of python. Any clues here would be helpful. Thanks, Rob -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From martin at v.loewis.de Thu Aug 7 15:19:56 2008 From: martin at v.loewis.de (=?UTF-8?B?Ik1hcnRpbiB2LiBMw7Z3aXMi?=) Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:19:56 +0200 Subject: [XML-SIG] problem installing pyxml on Vista 64 In-Reply-To: <0DEEE69571F4CD4C908C8EB25448538B024DFD9E@namail2.corp.adobe.com> References: <0DEEE69571F4CD4C908C8EB25448538B024DFD9E@namail2.corp.adobe.com> Message-ID: <489AF67C.6090509@v.loewis.de> > I have a vista 64 bit OS installed with MS visual studio 2003 and > Active State python 2.5. I am in need of the pyxml module but the > installer does not work. The win installer complains at the beginning > that python 2.4 is not found in the registry. (ActiveState 2.5 python > probably does not populate the registry the same way that stock > python.org?s 2.4 would). No. It means that you just can't install the binaries into Python 2.5; they link with python24.dll, and importing it into Python 2.5 would crash the interpreter. > File "C:\Python25\lib\distutils\msvccompiler.py", line 616, in > get_msvc_paths > > % (self.__root, self.__version)) > > AttributeError: MSVCCompiler instance has no attribute '_MSVCCompiler__root' Somehow, it didn't manage to find the VS 2003 installation. One would have to debug that further. Perhaps starting up VS 2003 at least once might help. > I think if I install Python 2.4 it is going to collide unfavorably w/ my > ActiveState instance of python. There shouldn't be any collision, except for the extension. If you choose not to associate .py with the Python 2.4 installation, there will be no collision. In any case, notice that PyXML is unmaintained. Unless you want to take over maintainership, I recommend that you port the code to some other XML library; it might be that it ports really easily to the standard library. Regards, Martin From rrussell at adobe.com Thu Aug 7 17:42:59 2008 From: rrussell at adobe.com (Robert Russell) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 08:42:59 -0700 Subject: [XML-SIG] problem installing pyxml on Vista 64 In-Reply-To: <489AF67C.6090509@v.loewis.de> References: <0DEEE69571F4CD4C908C8EB25448538B024DFD9E@namail2.corp.adobe.com> <489AF67C.6090509@v.loewis.de> Message-ID: <0DEEE69571F4CD4C908C8EB25448538B024DFDE9@namail2.corp.adobe.com> Thanks for your response. I did in fact debug further into msvccompiler.py and found that self.__root is never set in the __init_ call for x64 before it's use later on. Without debugging further, it looks like there may be an issue there. Anyway, my problem is solved. We are using the ZSI library and it depends on some xml files that I did not have present. They are there now and I'm able to run w/out the pyxml module after all. Kind Regards, Rob -----Original Message----- From: "Martin v. L?wis" [mailto:martin at v.loewis.de] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 6:20 AM To: Robert Russell Cc: xml-sig at python.org Subject: Re: [XML-SIG] problem installing pyxml on Vista 64 > I have a vista 64 bit OS installed with MS visual studio 2003 and > Active State python 2.5. I am in need of the pyxml module but the > installer does not work. The win installer complains at the beginning > that python 2.4 is not found in the registry. (ActiveState 2.5 python > probably does not populate the registry the same way that stock > python.org's 2.4 would). No. It means that you just can't install the binaries into Python 2.5; they link with python24.dll, and importing it into Python 2.5 would crash the interpreter. > File "C:\Python25\lib\distutils\msvccompiler.py", line 616, in > get_msvc_paths > > % (self.__root, self.__version)) > > AttributeError: MSVCCompiler instance has no attribute '_MSVCCompiler__root' Somehow, it didn't manage to find the VS 2003 installation. One would have to debug that further. Perhaps starting up VS 2003 at least once might help. > I think if I install Python 2.4 it is going to collide unfavorably w/ my > ActiveState instance of python. There shouldn't be any collision, except for the extension. If you choose not to associate .py with the Python 2.4 installation, there will be no collision. In any case, notice that PyXML is unmaintained. Unless you want to take over maintainership, I recommend that you port the code to some other XML library; it might be that it ports really easily to the standard library. Regards, Martin From stefan_ml at behnel.de Thu Aug 7 17:51:20 2008 From: stefan_ml at behnel.de (Stefan Behnel) Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:51:20 +0200 Subject: [XML-SIG] problem installing pyxml on Vista 64 In-Reply-To: <0DEEE69571F4CD4C908C8EB25448538B024DFDE9@namail2.corp.adobe.com> References: <0DEEE69571F4CD4C908C8EB25448538B024DFD9E@namail2.corp.adobe.com> <489AF67C.6090509@v.loewis.de> <0DEEE69571F4CD4C908C8EB25448538B024DFDE9@namail2.corp.adobe.com> Message-ID: <489B19F8.9090109@behnel.de> Hi, Robert Russell wrote: > We are using the ZSI > library and it depends on some xml files that I did not have present. They > are there now and I'm able to run w/out the pyxml module after all. Regarding that bit: soaplib worked pretty well for me so far, may be an alternative that is based on the stdlib XML support. Actually, the dependency on PyXML was the main reason for me not to give ZSI a try at all. Stefan From bogdan.bivolaru at gmail.com Fri Aug 8 09:18:43 2008 From: bogdan.bivolaru at gmail.com (Bogdan Bivolaru) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 10:18:43 +0300 Subject: [XML-SIG] using XUpdate to render differences between two versions of a file Message-ID: Hello, * Problem: I'm trying for some time find a tool that makes a diff in XML files. What I have found so far is XMLdiff (python program) which can save the differences between the two files in XUpdate format, but I'd like to be able to visualize those differences, see how they look in the final product. The best idea I could find is to use the XUpdate file and based on a XSL (specific to the format that is being diffed) to make transformations on the versioned files in such a way that highlights the differences between them. For example, for HTML it would be: deleteted text to be marked as .... inserted text to marked as

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SVGdiff could fade version 1 into version 2, or could allow other effects like showing only the parts that have been added or deleted. * Solution(s): So my idea on implementing this is to replace the elements pointed in XUpdate (/document_root[1]/element1[1]) and embed them in the markup specified by the XSL. File version 1: File version 2: Doing "xmldiff -x file1 file2" gives an XUpdate output: box After processing the XUpload the program would know it has to find /memory[1]/mailbox[1] element in the first document and put

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around it. But how to do that? Or it could make an intermediary XSL file that specifies this? I'm not sure which way to go from here? Any ideas? Any word on performance? I wouldn't like to keep all the document tree in memory just to find /memory[1]/mailbox[1] element and replace it, do you know any alternatives? Do you know any other way how to do this visual XML diff tool? Please share with me. -- "The best way to predict the future is to invent it.", 1971, Alan Kay: http://www.smalltalk.org/alankay.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bogdan.bivolaru at gmail.com Fri Aug 8 09:35:01 2008 From: bogdan.bivolaru at gmail.com (Bogdan Bivolaru) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 10:35:01 +0300 Subject: [XML-SIG] Learning XML processing with Python Message-ID: Hello, I have read that Python (community) intends to make Python the best language for XML processing, however that was in a book published in 2004, how is its state now? I think the same book recommended PyXML for XML processing in Python, but as I have seen on their website, PyXML is being unmaintained. What other library would you recommend instead of PyXML? Also, do I need to read a newer book which is more up to date? Thanks, Bogdan -- "The best way to predict the future is to invent it.", 1971, Alan Kay: http://www.smalltalk.org/alankay.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From acolorado at gmail.com Fri Aug 8 09:44:15 2008 From: acolorado at gmail.com (Alexandro Colorado) Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 02:44:15 -0500 Subject: [XML-SIG] Learning XML processing with Python Message-ID: <1218181455.7521.6.camel@Nokia-N800-23-14> Python is a great languages has many libraries that make it even simpler than the stamdard libraries including elementtrees pyrss etc. Alexandro Colorado jza at openoffice.org ----- Original message ----- _______________________________________________ XML-SIG maillist? -? XML-SIG at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/xml-sig -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stefan_ml at behnel.de Fri Aug 8 09:56:04 2008 From: stefan_ml at behnel.de (Stefan Behnel) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 09:56:04 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [XML-SIG] using XUpdate to render differences between two versions of a file In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <36367.213.61.181.86.1218182164.squirrel@groupware.dvs.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de> Bogdan Bivolaru wrote: > I'm trying for some time find a tool that makes a diff in XML files. > What I have found so far is XMLdiff (python program) which can save the > differences between the two files in XUpdate format, but I'd like to be > able > to visualize those differences, see how they look in the final product. Can't you interact with the internal tree that it builds instead? Might be easier, as it should contain both the input and the differences. Stefan From stefan_ml at behnel.de Fri Aug 8 10:00:16 2008 From: stefan_ml at behnel.de (Stefan Behnel) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 10:00:16 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [XML-SIG] Learning XML processing with Python In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40972.213.61.181.86.1218182416.squirrel@groupware.dvs.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de> Bogdan Bivolaru wrote: > I have read that Python (community) intends to make Python the best > language > for XML processing, however that was in a book published in 2004, how is > its state now? Done. :) http://codespeak.net/lxml/ > What other library would you recommend instead of PyXML? Start with ElementTree, which is in the standard library. If you need more features (such as validation, XSLT or customised XML APIs), switch to lxml. > Also, do I need to read a newer book which is more up to date? There are tons of examples on the web. Just check out the tutorials of ElementTree and lxml, they should get you started. Stefan From bkline at rksystems.com Fri Aug 8 17:38:25 2008 From: bkline at rksystems.com (Bob Kline) Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 11:38:25 -0400 Subject: [XML-SIG] Learning XML processing with Python In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <489C6871.90105@rksystems.com> Bogdan Bivolaru wrote: > Hello, > > I have read that Python (community) intends to make Python the best > language for XML processing, however that was in a book published in > 2004, how is its state now? Hi, Bogdan. I'm not sure that goal was ever shared by the Python community at large (partly because Guido himself has been a bit scornful of XML, at least in the past), but that is still the stated objective on the web page you get to if you follow the "Community" links to the XML special interest group. Unfortunately, the Python XML story is in a little bit of disarray at the moment. As you point out yourself, the library which that web page recommends hasn't been maintained for years. There are alternate candidates, but it's not clear which to adopt for future projects. Part of the problem is that none of the packages in the standard library have any support for validating XML, and suggestions that such support would be useful (particularly in light of the SIG's stated goal to "make Python /the/ premier language for XML processing" [1]) are dismissed on the grounds that (1) most programmers don't want to validate the XML they get; and (2) there are too many possible validation techniques available, so we won't support any in the standard library. There is support for validation in lxml, but having been burned once by building software against the predecessor of that package, only to have it abandoned, it's easy to understand reluctance to convert everything to depend on yet another package which isn't officially supported as part of the standard library. Sorry for the wet blanket, but I'm afraid that's how things stand right now. [1] http://www.python.org/community/sigs/current/xml-sig/ -- Bob Kline http://www.rksystems.com mailto:bkline at rksystems.com From stefan_ml at behnel.de Sat Aug 9 15:39:35 2008 From: stefan_ml at behnel.de (Stefan Behnel) Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 15:39:35 +0200 Subject: [XML-SIG] Learning XML processing with Python In-Reply-To: <489C6871.90105@rksystems.com> References: <489C6871.90105@rksystems.com> Message-ID: <489D9E17.9080409@behnel.de> Hi, Bob Kline wrote: > There are > alternate candidates, but it's not clear which to adopt for future > projects. Part of the problem is that none of the packages in the > standard library have any support for validating XML That's too simply put. There's ElementTree in the standard library, which can be replaced by lxml if you need validation (even through a runtime test). It may not be a 100% drop-in replacement (more like 98%), but it's really easy to keep that door open when you write your code. A couple of integration tests can handle that pretty well. Unless, obviously, you fall for the feature set and start depending on lxml instead of plain ET. :) > and suggestions > that such support would be useful (particularly in light of the SIG's > stated goal to "make Python /the/ premier language for XML processing" > [1]) are dismissed on the grounds that (1) most programmers don't want > to validate the XML they get; and (2) there are too many possible > validation techniques available, so we won't support any in the standard > library. Again, too simple. libxml2 supports all important schema languages, and they are all exposed by lxml through the same simple interface. I don't see why anyone should *refuse* to have them all when they come for free. And if you really don't need them, good ol'ET is still your friend. > There is support for validation in lxml, but having been > burned once by building software against the predecessor of that > package, only to have it abandoned, it's easy to understand reluctance > to convert everything to depend on yet another package which isn't > officially supported as part of the standard library. I don't know what you call the "predecessor" of lxml here. In case you meant PyXML, there is no link between the two at all (except that PyXML is amongst the reasons why lxml exists). And if you meant ET, I never heard about anyone being "burned" by such a mature package. I think it's definitely future safe to write your code against ET today. And it's also future safe to convert existing code to ElementTree if you want it to be based on a standard Python XML library (I wouldn't know anything more "standard" than the standard library). Given that ET is much easier to use than PyXML ever was, this should not be too hard for somewhat well written code. It's definitely work, though, and you'll likely end up throwing away a lot of code. But it will also make you feel better. :) And given the fact that lxml is ready for Py3 as soon as Cython is (which is close, it already compiles and runs pretty well), and that both lxml and Cython are very well maintained and actively developed projects, I don't see why basing your software on lxml should be any less future proof. Stefan From bkline at rksystems.com Mon Aug 11 15:42:44 2008 From: bkline at rksystems.com (Bob Kline) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:42:44 -0400 Subject: [XML-SIG] Learning XML processing with Python In-Reply-To: <489D9E17.9080409@behnel.de> References: <489C6871.90105@rksystems.com> <489D9E17.9080409@behnel.de> Message-ID: <48A041D4.9060008@rksystems.com> Stefan Behnel wrote: > I don't know what you call the "predecessor" of lxml here. In case you meant > PyXML, there is no link between the two at all .... I am referring to PyXML, which was the package formerly recommended by the SIG which is currently recommending lxml (and which still recommends PyXML on its home page). I am very appreciative of the work which has gone into lxml, but I would prefer that it (or at least its support for validation, on which our projects depend) be part of the standard Python library, which would be as good a guarantee as we could reasonably expect that it won't share the same fate as PyXML, for which maintenance silently evaporated. If you truly have no idea what I'm talking about, I won't waste any more of your time or mine. -- Bob Kline http://www.rksystems.com mailto:bkline at rksystems.com From gerald.britton at gmail.com Tue Aug 12 21:30:24 2008 From: gerald.britton at gmail.com (Gerald Britton) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:30:24 -0400 Subject: [XML-SIG] How to submit pathces? Message-ID: <5d1a32000808121230qf1fa9d9g5649878228657553@mail.gmail.com> HI -- I'm just starting to use SAX in Python. I'd lilke to submit a patch for one or more modules, but need to know where and how to submit them, or at least talk about them. From fredrik at pythonware.com Wed Aug 13 09:19:51 2008 From: fredrik at pythonware.com (Fredrik Lundh) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:19:51 +0200 Subject: [XML-SIG] How to submit pathces? In-Reply-To: <5d1a32000808121230qf1fa9d9g5649878228657553@mail.gmail.com> References: <5d1a32000808121230qf1fa9d9g5649878228657553@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Gerald Britton wrote: > HI -- I'm just starting to use SAX in Python. I'd lilke to submit a > patch for one or more modules, but need to know where and how to > submit them, or at least talk about them. http://www.python.org/dev/patches/ From bogdan.bivolaru at gmail.com Mon Aug 18 07:59:25 2008 From: bogdan.bivolaru at gmail.com (Bogdan Bivolaru) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 08:59:25 +0300 Subject: [XML-SIG] Fwd: Confused by text and tail concepts of ElementTree In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello, I again misposted my message to a member of the list, instead of the list itself. That is because I overuse the reply button and I don't recheck the address I am writing to. Sorry Fredrik. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Bogdan Bivolaru Date: Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 10:38 PM Subject: Confused by text and tail concepts of ElementTree To: Fredrik Lundh Hello, I'm a little confused by the tail in the ElementTree Infoset: http://effbot.org/zone/element-infoset.htm An example from that page: texttail So this is the question: element.text = "text" element.tail = None element[:] = [] subelement.tag = "SUBELEM" subelement.tail = "tail" if element.text and subelement.tail are both children of element, why is the tail actually attached to the subelement and not the element, as it's sibling? I expected that anything that refers an element is enclosed in the tags of said element, instead I learn that a tag can contain reference to content that is outside it's tags:: "aaa" Doesn't this violate the concept of a tree of a single root element? Is it valid to reference root.tail? In the particular case below: texttail1tail2 from what I understood I can access: text by "element.text" tail1 by "element.children[0].tail" tail2 by "element.children[1].tail" -- "The best way to predict the future is to invent it.", 1971, Alan Kay: http://www.smalltalk.org/alankay.html -- "The best way to predict the future is to invent it.", 1971, Alan Kay: http://www.smalltalk.org/alankay.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From received at postcard.org Mon Aug 18 12:45:40 2008 From: received at postcard.org (received at postcard.org) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 06:45:40 -0400 Subject: [XML-SIG] You have just received a virtual postcard from a friend ! Message-ID: <200808181045.m7IAjekY018799@pbx.carbonation.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stefan_ml at behnel.de Mon Aug 18 15:49:54 2008 From: stefan_ml at behnel.de (Stefan Behnel) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:49:54 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [XML-SIG] Fwd: Confused by text and tail concepts of ElementTree In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46779.213.61.181.86.1219067394.squirrel@groupware.dvs.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de> Hi, Bogdan Bivolaru wrote: > I again misposted my message to a member of the list, instead of the list > itself. That is because I overuse the reply button and I don't recheck > the address I am writing to. It's actually sad that there are so many mailing lists out there that break "reply" into "reply all except sender and CC". Just use "reply all" when you reply to everyone and "reply" when you want to reply to the sender, and then get used to fixing the address for mailing lists that force your mail client into doing the wrong thing. > I'm a little confused by the tail in the ElementTree Infoset: > http://effbot.org/zone/element-infoset.htm > > An example from that page: texttail > > So this is the question: > element.text = "text" > element.tail = None > element[:] = [] > subelement.tag = "SUBELEM" > subelement.tail = "tail" > > if element.text and subelement.tail are both children of element, why is > the > tail actually attached to the subelement and not the element, as it's > sibling? Because that's where it sits in the document? There are two ways to solve your confusion: a) think through the implications, or b) get used to the way it works, as others have put enough thoughts into it already. > I expected that anything that refers an element is enclosed in the tags > of > said element, instead I learn that a tag can contain reference to content > that is outside it's tags: "aaa" Where else would you expect a "tail" of something if not at the end of the thing itself, and outside of its body? > Doesn't this violate the concept of a tree of a single root element? No, why? > Is it valid to reference root.tail? Yes, the XML standard allows whitespace around the root element. > In the particular case below: > texttail1tail2 > from what I understood I can access: > text by "element.text" > tail1 by "element.children[0].tail" > tail2 by "element.children[1].tail" The syntax for accessing the children of an element is "element[index]", as with any indexable (or list-like) Python object. 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