[Web-SIG] more comments on Paste Deploy
Jim Fulton
jim at zope.com
Wed Mar 7 11:37:35 CET 2007
On Mar 5, 2007, at 5:23 PM, Joseph Tate wrote:
> On Monday 05 March 2007 16:19:14 Ian Bicking wrote:
>> Joseph Tate wrote:
>>> I find that multiple files gives you a nice way to override
>>> defaults. As
>>> long as the files are read in a way that's predictable and
>>> documentable,
>>> and ultimately appear as if read from a single file (and possible
>>> displayable via some diagnostics link in an application).
>>
>> Allowing this sort of thing means that the application carries
>> around a
>> complete config object of some sort, which I rather dislike -- it
>> allows
>> for smart applications, but it makes it much harder to understand the
>> configuration and any possible side effects. If we resolve the
>> configuration down to something more limited (as the Paste Deploy
>> entry
>> points do) you can't really reconstruct the config from there.
>> *Something* could still reconstruct the config (an alternate config
>> loader, via logs, via debug settings, etc), just not the application
>> itself.
>>
>> This is somewhat problematic for applications that have particularly
>> complex config requirements, or want to support self-
>> configuration. The
>> best solution that I can think of with Paste Deploy in that case
>> is to
>> just use the Paste Deploy configuration to point to the "real"
>> configuration.
>
> I agree. That's why my app has a /config link that spits out the
> "effective"
> configuration. The overridden config is a hard requirement, I'd
> love to hear
> alternative solutions. /etc/php.d, /etc/httpd/conf.d and that ilk
> come to
> mind as examples of this kind of thing.
FWIW, zc.buildout has a configuration model designed to support
overriding. Often there is a base configuration that is overridden
by specific configurations for development and deployment. It
leverages the beautifully simple model of a dictionary of
dictionaries provided by ConfigParser.
Jim
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