From jjinux at gmail.com  Wed Nov  2 01:50:15 2005
From: jjinux at gmail.com (Shannon -jj Behrens)
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 16:50:15 -0800
Subject: [Web-SIG] AJAX: Aquarium demo
Message-ID: <c41f67b90511011650i9321d4o5db43cc84ae717b0@mail.gmail.com>

I wrote (yet another) AJAX chat system.  I wanted to try out the
combination of dojo <http://dojotoolkit.com> and Aquarium
<http://aquarium.sf.net>.  Check it out <http://aquajax.com>.

Best Regards,
-jj

--
Hacking is to climbing Mt. Everest as
software engineering is to building a Denny's there.

From jjinux at gmail.com  Sat Nov  5 01:02:41 2005
From: jjinux at gmail.com (Shannon -jj Behrens)
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 16:02:41 -0800
Subject: [Web-SIG] off topic: Wiki with a CVS backend
Message-ID: <c41f67b90511041602k43a7811y67311adac614b1a9@mail.gmail.com>

I need a Wiki with a CVS backend.  I'd prefer Python, but I'm okay
with using something else.  The things I've found are:

Tini Wiki
Pyle (written in Python)
Cv Wiki
Dev Wiki

Sorry for posting this off topic question, but does anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks,
-jj

--
Hacking is to climbing Mt. Everest as
software engineering is to building a Denny's there.

From python at venix.com  Sat Nov  5 01:23:24 2005
From: python at venix.com (Python)
Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 19:23:24 -0500
Subject: [Web-SIG] off topic: Wiki with a CVS backend
In-Reply-To: <c41f67b90511041602k43a7811y67311adac614b1a9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c41f67b90511041602k43a7811y67311adac614b1a9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1131150204.12537.94.camel@www.venix.com>

http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoinFeatures
written in Python


On Fri, 2005-11-04 at 16:02 -0800, Shannon -jj Behrens wrote:
> I need a Wiki with a CVS backend.  I'd prefer Python, but I'm okay
> with using something else.  The things I've found are:
> 
> Tini Wiki
> Pyle (written in Python)
> Cv Wiki
> Dev Wiki
> 
> Sorry for posting this off topic question, but does anyone have any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks,
> -jj
> 
> --
> Hacking is to climbing Mt. Everest as
> software engineering is to building a Denny's there.
> _______________________________________________
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> Web SIG: http://www.python.org/sigs/web-sig
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Lloyd Kvam
Venix Corp


From jjinux at gmail.com  Sat Nov  5 01:27:40 2005
From: jjinux at gmail.com (Shannon -jj Behrens)
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 16:27:40 -0800
Subject: [Web-SIG] off topic: Wiki with a CVS backend
In-Reply-To: <1131150204.12537.94.camel@www.venix.com>
References: <c41f67b90511041602k43a7811y67311adac614b1a9@mail.gmail.com>
	<1131150204.12537.94.camel@www.venix.com>
Message-ID: <c41f67b90511041627m74500f03jfced42d711885fe4@mail.gmail.com>

I *want* to use CVS as a backend.  I don't see where MoinMoin says it
can do this. :-/

-jj

On 11/4/05, Python <python at venix.com> wrote:
> http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoinFeatures
> written in Python
>
>
> On Fri, 2005-11-04 at 16:02 -0800, Shannon -jj Behrens wrote:
> > I need a Wiki with a CVS backend.  I'd prefer Python, but I'm okay
> > with using something else.  The things I've found are:
> >
> > Tini Wiki
> > Pyle (written in Python)
> > Cv Wiki
> > Dev Wiki
> >
> > Sorry for posting this off topic question, but does anyone have any suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -jj
> >
> > --
> > Hacking is to climbing Mt. Everest as
> > software engineering is to building a Denny's there.
> > _______________________________________________
> > Web-SIG mailing list
> > Web-SIG at python.org
> > Web SIG: http://www.python.org/sigs/web-sig
> > Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/web-sig/python%40venix.com
> --
> Lloyd Kvam
> Venix Corp
>
>


--
Hacking is to climbing Mt. Everest as
software engineering is to building a Denny's there.

From brenocon at gmail.com  Sun Nov  6 01:47:21 2005
From: brenocon at gmail.com (Brendan O'Connor)
Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 16:47:21 -0800
Subject: [Web-SIG] off topic: Wiki with a CVS backend
In-Reply-To: <c41f67b90511041627m74500f03jfced42d711885fe4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c41f67b90511041602k43a7811y67311adac614b1a9@mail.gmail.com>
	<1131150204.12537.94.camel@www.venix.com>
	<c41f67b90511041627m74500f03jfced42d711885fe4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <fba9be1d0511051647q32f888faq6609dfc0762cfa7@mail.gmail.com>

actually, at the bottom of the moinmoin page, it specifically says it
doesn't use CVS, considers it a plus :)

Brendan



On 11/4/05, Shannon -jj Behrens <jjinux at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I *want* to use CVS as a backend. I don't see where MoinMoin says it
> can do this. :-/
>
> -jj
>
> On 11/4/05, Python <python at venix.com> wrote:
> > http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoinFeatures
> > written in Python
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 2005-11-04 at 16:02 -0800, Shannon -jj Behrens wrote:
> > > I need a Wiki with a CVS backend. I'd prefer Python, but I'm okay
> > > with using something else. The things I've found are:
> > >
> > > Tini Wiki
> > > Pyle (written in Python)
> > > Cv Wiki
> > > Dev Wiki
> > >
> > > Sorry for posting this off topic question, but does anyone have any
> suggestions?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > -jj
> > >
> > > --
> > > Hacking is to climbing Mt. Everest as
> > > software engineering is to building a Denny's there.
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Web-SIG mailing list
> > > Web-SIG at python.org
> > > Web SIG: http://www.python.org/sigs/web-sig
> > > Unsubscribe:
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/web-sig/python%40venix.com
> > --
> > Lloyd Kvam
> > Venix Corp
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Hacking is to climbing Mt. Everest as
> software engineering is to building a Denny's there.
> _______________________________________________
> Web-SIG mailing list
> Web-SIG at python.org
> Web SIG: http://www.python.org/sigs/web-sig
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From mo.babaei at gmail.com  Wed Nov  9 09:14:43 2005
From: mo.babaei at gmail.com (mohammad babaei)
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 11:44:43 +0330
Subject: [Web-SIG] Python Accelerator ?
Message-ID: <5bf3a41f0511090014m32a317dbh81febbc76558048f@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,
Does anybody know any python accelerator for production use?
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From irmen at xs4all.nl  Wed Nov  9 09:24:27 2005
From: irmen at xs4all.nl (Irmen de Jong)
Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 09:24:27 +0100
Subject: [Web-SIG] Python Accelerator ?
In-Reply-To: <5bf3a41f0511090014m32a317dbh81febbc76558048f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5bf3a41f0511090014m32a317dbh81febbc76558048f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4371B23B.7010603@xs4all.nl>

mohammad babaei wrote:
> Hi,
> Does anybody know any python accelerator for production use?

The Earth's gravity field?

What exactly do you mean with "python accelerator" ??

--Irmen

From mo.babaei at gmail.com  Wed Nov  9 12:50:19 2005
From: mo.babaei at gmail.com (mohammad babaei)
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 15:20:19 +0330
Subject: [Web-SIG] Web-SIG Digest, Vol 25, Issue 4
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I mean something that speed up the python execution in cgi programs and
reduces the time of response
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From pje at telecommunity.com  Wed Nov  9 16:22:19 2005
From: pje at telecommunity.com (Phillip J. Eby)
Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 10:22:19 -0500
Subject: [Web-SIG] Web-SIG Digest, Vol 25, Issue 4
In-Reply-To: <5bf3a41f0511090350w2820d02ey1a9673f15a19439d@mail.gmail.co
 m>
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	<mailman.15.1131534002.20415.web-sig@python.org>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20051109102054.01f1f830@mail.telecommunity.com>

At 03:20 PM 11/9/2005 +0330, mohammad babaei wrote:
>I mean something that speed up the python execution in cgi programs and 
>reduces the time of response

FastCGI, SCGI, ReadyExec, mod_python, Twisted+mod_proxy, ...

There are probably dozens of them out there, especially when you consider 
that there are lots of different FastCGI and SCGI libraries and tools out 
there for Python.


From lists at mikewatkins.net  Wed Nov  9 16:46:03 2005
From: lists at mikewatkins.net (Michael Watkins)
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 07:46:03 -0800
Subject: [Web-SIG] Web-SIG Digest, Vol 25, Issue 4
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References: <mailman.15.1131534002.20415.web-sig@python.org>
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	<5.1.1.6.0.20051109102054.01f1f830@mail.telecommunity.com>
Message-ID: <20051109154603.GA94168@frog.mikewatkins.net>


> At 03:20 PM 11/9/2005 +0330, mohammad babaei wrote:
> >I mean something that speed up the python execution in cgi programs and 
> >reduces the time of response
> 
> FastCGI, SCGI, ReadyExec, mod_python, Twisted+mod_proxy, ...

    http://www.mems-exchange.org/software/scgi/

    Included in this package is:

    * An Apache module named mod_scgi that implements the client side of the protocol.
    * A Python package named scgi that implements the server side of the protocol.
    * A CGI script named cgi2scgi that implements a CGI to SCGI protocol adaptor.


From titus at caltech.edu  Fri Nov 11 19:18:02 2005
From: titus at caltech.edu (C. Titus Brown)
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:18:02 -0800
Subject: [Web-SIG] ANNOUNCE: twill v0.7.4, Web testing language.
Message-ID: <4374E05A.4020701@caltech.edu>

ANNOUNCING twill v0.7.4.

twill is a simple Web scripting language built on top of Python and
John J. Lee's 'mechanize'.  It's designed for automated testing of Web
sites, but it should prove useful for anybody who needs to interact
with Web sites (especially those using logins and cookies) on the
command line or via a script.

twill can also now be used for stress-testing and benchmarking of
complex sites via the twill-fork script.

twill is a reimplementation of Cory Dodt's PBP.

A twill script looks like this:

   # go to the /. login page
   go http://slashdot.org/login.pl

   # fill in the form
   fv 1 unickname test
   fv 1 upasswd test
   submit

   # ok, there's no such account ;). show error HTML.
   show

---

This is the fifth public release of twill, version 0.7.4.

(Tagline: "many bugs fixed, nose-based unit tests now work.")

Download directly here:

     http://darcs.idyll.org/~t/projects/twill-0.7.4.tar.gz

Documentation is online at

     http://www.idyll.org/~t/www-tools/twill.html

---

Miscellaneous details:

twill is implemented in Python and uses pyparsing and mechanize.  In
addition to the existing simple command language, twill can easily be
extended with Python.  twill also provides a fairly simple and
well-documented wrapper around mechanize.

twill scripts can be recorded with maxq, although scripts may require
some hand tweaking at the moment.  See the twill documentation for
more information.

twill does not understand JavaScript, I'm sorry to say.

---

Notable bug fixes and features:

   * better error handling & display;

   * many, many browsing bugs fixed;

   * new 'url', 'exit', 'showlinks', 'title', 'config' and 'agent' commands;

   * 'nose' unit tests and unit-test support infrastructure; c.f.

      http://www.idyll.org/~t/www-tools/twill.html#unit-testing

Thanks go to Tommi Virtanen, James Cameron, sureshvv, William Volkman,
and Mike Rovner for patches and bug reports.

From ianb at colorstudy.com  Sat Nov 12 23:08:24 2005
From: ianb at colorstudy.com (Ian Bicking)
Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 16:08:24 -0600
Subject: [Web-SIG] ANN: FormEncode 0.3
Message-ID: <437667D8.8030609@colorstudy.com>

I'm pleased to announce FormEncode 0.3.

What is it?
-----------

FormEncode is a package for form validation and conversion.  It also
includes modules for parsing, filling, and extracting metadata from HTML
forms.  It features robust conversion both of incoming and outgoing
data, attention paid to helpful error messages, and a wide variety of
pre-build validators.  It also supports composition of validators, and
validating structured data, including nested and repeating form elements.

FormEncode is being used in several projects, including Subway,
TurboGears, and SQLObject.

Where is it?
------------

Website and docs:
  http://formencode.org
Download:
  http://cheeseshop.python.org/pypi/FormEncode

What has changed?
-----------------

>From the news file:

* Allow errors to be inserted automatically into a form when using
  ``formencode.htmlfill``, when a ``<form:error>`` tag isn't found for
  an error.

* Added ``if_key_missing`` attribute to ``schema.Schema``, which will
  fill in any keys that are missing and pass them to the validator.

* ``FancyValidator`` has changed, adding ``if_invalid_python`` and
  ``validate_python`` options (which also apply to all subclasses).
  Also ``if_empty`` only applies to ``to_python`` conversions.

* ``FancyValidator`` now has a ``strip`` option, which if true and if
  input is a string, will strip whitespace from the string.

* Allow chained validators to validate otherwise-invalid forms, if
  they define a ``validate_partial`` method.  The credit card
  validator does this.

* Handle ``FieldStorage`` input (from file uploads); added a
  ``formencode.fieldstorage`` module to wrap those instances in
  something a bit nicer.  Added
  ``validators.FieldStorageUploadConverter`` to make this conversion.

* Added ``StringBoolean`` converter, which converts strings like
  ``"true"`` to Python booleans.

Bugfixes
~~~~~~~~

* A couple fixes to ``DateConverter``, ``FieldsMatch``,
  ``StringBoolean``, ``CreditCardValidator``.

* Added missing ``Validator.assert_string`` method.

* ``formencode.htmlfill_schemabuilder`` handles checkboxes better.

* Be a little more careful about how ``Invalid`` exceptions are
  created (catch some errors sooner).

* Improved handling of non-string input in ``htmlfill``.

Experiments
~~~~~~~~~~~

* Some experimental work in ``formencode.formgen``.  Experimental, I
  say!

* Added an experimental ``formencode.context`` module for
  dynamically-scoped variables.



From ianb at colorstudy.com  Mon Nov 21 01:22:16 2005
From: ianb at colorstudy.com (Ian Bicking)
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 18:22:16 -0600
Subject: [Web-SIG] ANN: FormEncode 0.4
Message-ID: <43811338.5020802@colorstudy.com>

I'm pleased to announce FormEncode 0.4.

What Changed?
-------------

Lots of cleanups and clarifications.  Also a module to integrate with
SQLObject.  Read all about the changes:
  http://formencode.org/news.html

What is it?
-----------

FormEncode is a package for form validation and conversion.  It also
includes modules for parsing, filling, and extracting metadata from HTML
forms.  It features robust conversion both of incoming and outgoing
data, attention paid to helpful error messages, and a wide variety of
pre-build validators.  It also supports composition of validators, and
validating structured data, including nested and repeating form elements.

FormEncode is being used in several projects, including Subway,
TurboGears, and SQLObject.

Where is it?
------------

Website and docs:
  http://formencode.org
Download:
  http://cheeseshop.python.org/pypi/FormEncode

From mike_mp at zzzcomputing.com  Tue Nov 22 20:17:10 2005
From: mike_mp at zzzcomputing.com (Michael Bayer)
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 14:17:10 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Web-SIG] Myghty 0.99a + SQLAlchemy early access
Message-ID: <7457.66.192.34.8.1132687030.squirrel@www.geekisp.com>

hey all -

I have released Myghty 0.99a, which includes a variety of bugfixes, as
well as a new demo application which illustrates some new controller ideas
plus integration with an improved MyghtyJax toolkit and the upcoming
SQLAlchemy database library.

Myghty is a full Python port of HTML::Mason, the very popular templating
toolkit for Perl.  Since its original release, it has added lots of
paradigms and features not included in Mason, such as the Module
Components embedded-code and controller paradigm.  It is also the
template/controller engine built into the upcoming Pylons webstack. 
Myghty can be downloaded at  http://www.myghty.org.

SQLAlchemy is a Python developer toolkit which assists in interacting with
SQL databases via DBAPI.  It features a lightweight connection pooling
library, cross-database expression-based query-construction, a Unit of
Work system which tracks changes and commits entire graphs of objects to
the database at once, and an object-relational mapper, built on the Data
Mapper pattern, which supports a wide variety of object relationships and
features such as lazy and eager loading, inheritance, and association
objects.  SQLAlchemy is available for early review and access via
anonymous SVN at http://www.sqlalchemy.org .

- mike






From titus at caltech.edu  Tue Nov 29 09:54:50 2005
From: titus at caltech.edu (C. Titus Brown)
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 00:54:50 -0800
Subject: [Web-SIG] [twill] ANNOUNCE: twill v0.8
Message-ID: <438C175A.3040806@caltech.edu>

ANNOUNCING twill v0.8.

twill is a simple language for testing Web applications.  It's designed
for automated testing of Web sites, but it can be used to interact with
Web sites in a variety of ways.

twill has an interactive shell, 'twill-sh', and can also run scripts.

twill is a reimplementation of Cory Dodt's PBP.  It is built on top
of Python and John J. Lee's mechanize.

A twill script looks like this:

   # go to the /. login page
   go http://slashdot.org/login.pl

   # fill in the form
   fv 1 unickname test
   fv 1 upasswd test
   submit

   # ok, there's no such account ;). show error HTML.
   show

---

This is the sixth public release of twill, version 0.8.

(Tagline: "85% unit tested.")

You can install twill with easy_install via PyPi, or download
the latest .tar.gz at:

     http://darcs.idyll.org/~t/projects/twill-0.8.tar.gz

Documentation is included in the .tar.gz and is also online at

     http://www.idyll.org/~t/www-tools/twill.html

---

Miscellaneous details:

twill is implemented in Python and uses pyparsing and mechanize.  In
addition to the existing simple command language, twill can easily be
extended with Python.  twill also provides a fairly simple and
well-documented wrapper around mechanize.

twill scripts can be recorded with maxq, although scripts may require
some hand tweaking at the moment.  See the twill documentation for
more information.

twill does not understand JavaScript, I'm sorry to say.

---

New features:

  * test WSGI Python applications in-process;

  * Updated to latest versions of mechanize, ClientCookie, ClientForm, and
    pullparser;

  * Significant increase in number of unit tests & their code coverage;

  * Automatic 'tidy' preprocessing when available;

  * easy_install/eggs now supported;

  * http-equiv redirect now works;

  * new commands:

    - 'formaction' changes form URLs;
    - 'tidy_ok' checks for 'tidy' correctness;
    - 'showhistory' command;

Special thanks to sureshvv and Simon Buenzli...

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