From tony@intra.com.cn Wed Nov 7 10:47:57 2001 From: tony@intra.com.cn (webmaster) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 05:47:57 -0500 Subject: [Types-sig] 企业上网，优惠多多！ Message-ID: 亲爱的朋友： 　　您好！ 　　这是来自厦门市数字引擎网络技术有限公司的问侯。感谢您收看这封邮件。我们真诚的希望您能成为我们在贵地区的重要伙伴。 　　 厦门市数字引擎网络技术有限公司是一家专门为各类企事业单位提供网站建设、软件开发、平台服务的信息技术公司。公司的目标就是成 为国内最优秀的网络技术平台服务商之一。 详情请浏览：www.intra.com.cn mailto: webmaster@intra.com.cn，　谢谢！ 　　我们的服务特色是：双硬盘随时备份，数据永不丢失！ 　　现我司推出以下促销礼包，这将会是您超值的选择： 　　1.200M纯HTML空间+1个国际域名，仅售150元/年（内含备份）。 　　2.60Masp网站空间+60兆企业邮局+1个国际域名，仅售250元/年（内含备份）。 3.100M ASP网络空间+100兆企业邮局+1个国际顶级域名+10M Access数据库，仅售300元/年（内含备份）。 　 4.200MASP网站空间+200兆企业邮局+1个国际域名+30M Access数据库，仅售350元/年（内含备份）。 　　5.多种优惠网站建设方案供您参考。 　　我们在努力做得最好，但也难免有失误。我们不想哪怕一点点的不满意而让您不开心。所以我们承诺：主机随时可按实际余额退款。 　　祝：开心！顺利！ 　　　　　　　　　　 webmaster of www.intra.com.cn webmaster@intra.com.cn 　　　　　　　　　　　　 厦门市数字引擎网络技术有限公司 --------------------------------------------------------------- 沸点群发邮件,来自软件工程专家网(http://www.21cmm.com) 进CMM网校(http://www.21cmm.com)，成项目管理专家 From michel@zope.com Mon Nov 12 23:19:29 2001 From: michel@zope.com (Michel Pelletier) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 15:19:29 -0800 Subject: [Types-sig] Query about Types SIG status References: <217F6DFA440ED111ACDA00A0C906B00601AAE6BC@arsenic.rcp.co.uk> Message-ID: <3BF05901.1D0AF736@zope.com> Michael Abbott wrote: > > I'd be very grateful if someone could post a summary of the current status > of the Python Types SIG. Does the fact that I'm answering this email three months later give you a clue? ;) > I'm a little concerned: > > 1. The only mail I've seen since joining this list has been SPAM! There's a lot in the archives. > 2. Some of the links on the SIG home page seem to be broken (of course > the recent outage of python.org doesn't help, but that's not what I'm > referring to). Can't help you there. > 3. There doesn't seem to be much in the way of recent and current > proposals, as far as I can see. Most have been tabled indefinately. > There seem to be a variety of documents in varying stages of maturity, but > it's difficult to see what the current state of thinking is. There's a > document from Guido van Rossum with some early ideas, an unnumbered PEP from > Paul Prescod on an interface declaration language, and PEP-0245 by Michel > Pelletier, plus a number of other papers. However (it's difficult to tell), > most of these seem to be quite elderly! They are, to a degree. Paul's work and PEPs 245 and 246 were all written earlier this year, so they're not that old. > Clearly the ideas of interfaces and of static types are distinct but closely > related developments. Is this an area of active development, or is the > current consensus that it's not worth the effort? This is the way I think I see it, Paul, Clark and myself (and some others) came up with three different and for the most part orthogonal proposals related to type checking, interfaces, and object adaptation. Guido did not seem warmed by any of them to any measurable degree, and there were other pressing problems at the time (like type/class unificaiton) which required solving. Now that type/class and other problems have been solved, the entire type checking thing needs to be looked at again, but the dust hasn't really settled yet. I think we're all just relaxing. I, for one, plan on mounting a second PEP 245 offensive when the time is ripe. Muhahah! -Michel