[Tutor] idle??

[Wolf Halton]

Idle is sufficient for a beginner. Better than notepad. It is cross platform so your environment looks the same on Linux Mac or What-have-you. Some people obsess over ide features to avoid thinking about the more important questions. Eclipse never helped me learn to write better py code. I have made several attempts to run eclipse, and I keep falling back to geany. Geany needed some tweaking at the beginning. Idle never did. 

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On Jan 13, 2016, at 18:10, Danny Yoo <dyoo at hashcollision.org> wrote:

>>> So, where does IDLE fit into this....
>> 
>> IDLE is a sad little “IDE”, which is really ugly, because it’s written
>> in Tk. It lacks many IDE features. It comes with a really basic
>> debugger (that doesn’t even highlight the line that is being currently
>> executed…), function signature hinting, and some code completion.
>> 
>> And it doesn’t even do something as basic as line numbering.
> 
> Hi Chris,
> 
> The quality of a beginner-level IDE might not necessarily be based on
> the number of features it has.  For someone who's starting out, IDLE
> is probably fine because it gets out of your way.  It lets you type
> programs and evaluate them.  For a beginner, that might just be enough
> to focus on learning the language.
> 
> 
> (Aside: I've had the contrary experience with Eclipse, for example,
> which is as full-featured as they come, but makes me feel like I'm
> staring at the flight controls of a space shuttle, with all this stuff
> about launchers and Luna and such.  I can get productive with it  It
> takes my a long time to learn.  I suppose I could say the same thing
> about Emacs.)
> 
> 
> That is, many features might be a *distraction* from learning to
> program.  Tools for beginners should be measured by criteria for
> learning, and that might not match with the features we care about as
> professional developers.  But maybe that's a controversial opinion.
> 
> I think IDLE is ok for what it's designed for: to provide a simple,
> textual environment for writing and running simple Python programs.
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