[Tutor] Java: (and python ?) nearer measles than coffee

[Jonathon Sisson]

Hrmmm...my opinion is that you shouldn't waste your time with Java
(sorry to any Java coders on this list).  It's entirely too automated
for my tastes (automatic garbage collection, transparent pointers,
etc...).  To quote an unknown author who was quite the anti-OOP
programmer, "it made me want to throw a java.f***ThisException".

So why, might you ask, am I bothering learning Python?

Well, at first I was looking for a powerful scripting language to
prototype with.  You know the routine...whip up a quick and dirty
"version 0.1" and let the customer see what's in store, test layouts,
algorithms, design ideas, etc...

Reason I use Python #1:
But then I noticed something.  Python runs on my wife's Windows
machine...and my Linux machine...and my OpenBSD machine...and <insert
your favorite operating system here>...etc...  The real catch for me was
OpenBSD support.  Find a thorough java runtime for OpenBSD (I last
looked probably a year or two ago, so correct me if I'm wrong on this),
and perhaps I'll try it out, but until then, Python is my choice when I
need code that will run on multiple OS's.

Reason I use Python #2:
I'm not trying to flatter anyone, seriously, I'm not...but this list is
another reason Python has been a favorite of mine.

Reason I use Python #3:
I am a strong advocate of Open Source Software and the GPL.  If Sun
truly supported Open Source, then the OpenBSD team would have the specs
for Java.

Reason I use Python #4:
If I want to code something in Java, give me a week.  For Python, give
me one night, perhaps two.  I prefer getting done so I can move on, ya know?

Anyways, those are the first few reasons I use Python.

Jonathon

Klaus Ramelow wrote:
> Sometimes I have also some  - or more - problems trying digesting python
> and feeling totally blocked.
>
> My programming experience (beginning at the card-reader era)
> main-frame, mini and micro :
> Bit / Byte / Word system-programming via switch-console followed by
> Assembler and commercial software using Basic, Cobol, Pascal and SQL.
>
> Mnemonic programming-language - in my understanding - can only be
> consisting of expressions near the human language.
> The best example for writing non-system-programms are
> Basic, Cobol (thanks to Alan) and SQL(especially Informix-SQL as full 
> language - not only for DB).
> Why should I waste time in learning a "language" like Java (or more
> positive: python) ?
> Nevertheless this Tutor Digest is most helpful, the number of questions
> / problems show:
> some more people are looking for a mnemonic-language which should
> optimized cross-compile to something with multiplatform-capability
> like Java.
> Please let me know, if I am entirely wrong.
>
> Klaus Ramelow
>
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