From cbc at unc.edu  Tue May  1 17:34:06 2012
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 11:34:06 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] May Project Night?
Message-ID: <4FA0026E.8060402@unc.edu>

Is there still a project night tomorrow at 6pm?

I ask because it has a recurring calendar item on meetup.com, but hasn't 
been updated on trizpug.org.

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway http://nccoos.org/Members/cbc
office: 3313 Venable Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599

From kmtracey at gmail.com  Wed May  2 01:49:43 2012
From: kmtracey at gmail.com (Karen Tracey)
Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 19:49:43 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] May Project Night?
In-Reply-To: <4FA0026E.8060402@unc.edu>
References: <4FA0026E.8060402@unc.edu>
Message-ID: <CACS9racf7kyFJ=ui+z_7r3QRic=EhUFXGqT4-j+68TfGkv3gCg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Chris Calloway <cbc at unc.edu> wrote:
> Is there still a project night tomorrow at 6pm?
>

I believe so, I got a notice about the venue changing (suite # was added) today.

> I ask because it has a recurring calendar item on meetup.com, but hasn't
> been updated on trizpug.org.

Oversight maybe? I know nothing about updating either one.

Karen

From ironfroggy at gmail.com  Wed May  2 14:47:57 2012
From: ironfroggy at gmail.com (Calvin Spealman)
Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 08:47:57 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] May 2, 2012 Project Night (Sorry for the posting delay!)
Message-ID: <CAGaVwhQet4Xc62ptGXcLX_ROFveyET6Kc2kD2dP_tjEwOLEOqA@mail.gmail.com>

TriZPUG,

Caktus Consulting Group has offered to host a new monthly project
night for TriZPUG, with the inaugural meeting this May 2nd. This is
announced on both on the trizpug.org website and meetup.com, which I
want to strongly encourage everyone to use and RSVP with, tho it is
not required. RSVPs tell prospective members that we are an active
group and publicise the turnout for our events. A simple RSVP if you
plan to attend, or even if you don't, is a very simple way to help
visibility to new and potential members.

Event Description:

Have a project you want to show off, share, seek help with, or just
get some work done surrounded my like minded python lovers? Join us
for our first monthly hack night and do just that! Don't have
something to work on? Show up and enjoy the energy, sprint on an open
source project, find something interesting to contribute to or be
inspired by!

The setting is informal and there is no schedule, so don't worry if
you show up past the start time.

Meetup event page: http://www.meetup.com/trizpug/events/58079002/

From ironfroggy at gmail.com  Wed May  2 14:48:40 2012
From: ironfroggy at gmail.com (Calvin Spealman)
Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 08:48:40 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] May Project Night?
In-Reply-To: <CACS9racf7kyFJ=ui+z_7r3QRic=EhUFXGqT4-j+68TfGkv3gCg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4FA0026E.8060402@unc.edu>
	<CACS9racf7kyFJ=ui+z_7r3QRic=EhUFXGqT4-j+68TfGkv3gCg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGaVwhTWkd-S9UNx9FEUo-Xke+4PwS4xN2Q516FbdTg1sDMHvg@mail.gmail.com>

Chris,

My mistake! I'm adding some reminders to make sure I stay on top of
these responsibilities in the future.

I've posted to the site and mailing list, even if it was late.

On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 7:49 PM, Karen Tracey <kmtracey at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Chris Calloway <cbc at unc.edu> wrote:
>> Is there still a project night tomorrow at 6pm?
>>
>
> I believe so, I got a notice about the venue changing (suite # was added) today.
>
>> I ask because it has a recurring calendar item on meetup.com, but hasn't
>> been updated on trizpug.org.
>
> Oversight maybe? I know nothing about updating either one.
>
> Karen
> _______________________________________________
> TriZPUG mailing list
> TriZPUG at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug
> http://trizpug.org is the Triangle Zope and Python Users Group



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From cbc at unc.edu  Wed May  2 15:24:45 2012
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 09:24:45 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] May Project Night?
In-Reply-To: <CAGaVwhTWkd-S9UNx9FEUo-Xke+4PwS4xN2Q516FbdTg1sDMHvg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4FA0026E.8060402@unc.edu>
	<CACS9racf7kyFJ=ui+z_7r3QRic=EhUFXGqT4-j+68TfGkv3gCg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGaVwhTWkd-S9UNx9FEUo-Xke+4PwS4xN2Q516FbdTg1sDMHvg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4FA1359D.105@unc.edu>

On 5/2/2012 8:48 AM, Calvin Spealman wrote:
> My mistake! I'm adding some reminders to make sure I stay on top of
> these responsibilities in the future.

No problem. I'm just super happy it's happening and I'm happy because 
I'll be able to be there tonight.

It's as much my fault for not having a recurring event content type and 
content well publication on trizpug.org. It could be better.

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway http://nccoos.org/Members/cbc
office: 3313 Venable Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599

From cbc at unc.edu  Thu May  3 23:35:49 2012
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Thu, 03 May 2012 17:35:49 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] May Project Night!
In-Reply-To: <4FA1359D.105@unc.edu>
References: <4FA0026E.8060402@unc.edu>
	<CACS9racf7kyFJ=ui+z_7r3QRic=EhUFXGqT4-j+68TfGkv3gCg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGaVwhTWkd-S9UNx9FEUo-Xke+4PwS4xN2Q516FbdTg1sDMHvg@mail.gmail.com>
	<4FA1359D.105@unc.edu>
Message-ID: <4FA2FA35.4020401@unc.edu>

Thanks Calvin and Caktus for the project night and the pizza. A good 
time was had by all.

Curt, try printing the bell character under Wine.

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway http://nccoos.org/Members/cbc
office: 3313 Venable Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599

From tobias at caktusgroup.com  Mon May  7 16:25:09 2012
From: tobias at caktusgroup.com (Tobias McNulty)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 10:25:09 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] final day for early bird rate on Django Bootcamp
Message-ID: <CAMGFDKT5mNxXEADX2Vq0K+QCXXYJRghcb7b=Gh2ahe76Ek+EXA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Just wanted to send out a friendly reminder that today is the last day for
the early bird pricing on the Django Bootcamp that  Caktus is hosting June
9th and 10th.  You can find out more about the event here:

http://www.caktusgroup.com/events/details/django-fundamentals-bootcamp/

Or go straight to purchasing a ticket here:

http://djangobootcamp.eventbrite.com/

Thanks and I hope to see you there!

Tobias
-- 
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Caktus Consulting Group, LLC
http://www.caktusgroup.com
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From cbc at unc.edu  Thu May 10 18:23:28 2012
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 12:23:28 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] Porting to Python 3 e-book
Message-ID: <4FABEB80.9080006@unc.edu>

Someone was asking about porting to Python 3 at the last meeting or 
project night. I told about a book by Lennart Regebro on the subject. 
Just to follow up, here is it for free in electronic form:

http://python3porting.com/

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway http://nccoos.org/Members/cbc
office: 3313 Venable Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599

From cbc at unc.edu  Fri May 11 22:50:53 2012
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 16:50:53 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] May Meeting Call for Talks
Message-ID: <4FAD7BAD.1070406@unc.edu>

To announce a talk for this meeting, simply speak up.

http://trizpug.org/Members/cbc/may-12-mtg

We are being hosted by CS grad student Chris Fox in Room 1226 of 
Engineering Building II on the NCSU Centennial Campus at 7pm on Thursday 
May 24.

This is Chris's first time hosting. He's got our room reservation but is 
a little concerned about finding out how to insure we can actually get 
into the building and room at 7pm. If any of our NCSU members can help 
Chris, please speak up.

I'll be driving straight to the meeting from Plone Symposium at Penn 
State. So just because I'm making this announcement, please don't call 
me if you can't get in the building. We're all in the same boat in that 
regard.

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway http://nccoos.org/Members/cbc
office: 3313 Venable Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599

From lionface.lemonface at gmail.com  Fri May 11 23:14:03 2012
From: lionface.lemonface at gmail.com (lionface.lemonface at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 21:14:03 +0000
Subject: [TriZPUG] May Meeting Call for Talks
In-Reply-To: <4FAD7BAD.1070406@unc.edu>
References: <4FAD7BAD.1070406@unc.edu>
Message-ID: <143208322-1336770844-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1261299321-@b3.c12.bise6.blackberry>

I work across the street for an NCSU affiliate organization - is there anything I can do?

JJ
Sent on the Sprint? Now Network from my BlackBerry?

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Calloway <cbc at unc.edu>
Sender: trizpug-bounces+lionface.lemonface=gmail.com at python.org
Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 16:50:53 
To: Triangle (North Carolina) Zope and Python Users Group<trizpug at python.org>
Reply-To: cbc at unc.edu,
	"Triangle \(North Carolina\) Zope and Python Users Group"
	<trizpug at python.org>
Subject: [TriZPUG] May Meeting Call for Talks

To announce a talk for this meeting, simply speak up.

http://trizpug.org/Members/cbc/may-12-mtg

We are being hosted by CS grad student Chris Fox in Room 1226 of 
Engineering Building II on the NCSU Centennial Campus at 7pm on Thursday 
May 24.

This is Chris's first time hosting. He's got our room reservation but is 
a little concerned about finding out how to insure we can actually get 
into the building and room at 7pm. If any of our NCSU members can help 
Chris, please speak up.

I'll be driving straight to the meeting from Plone Symposium at Penn 
State. So just because I'm making this announcement, please don't call 
me if you can't get in the building. We're all in the same boat in that 
regard.

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway http://nccoos.org/Members/cbc
office: 3313 Venable Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599
_______________________________________________
TriZPUG mailing list
TriZPUG at python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug
http://trizpug.org is the Triangle Zope and Python Users Group

From chris.david.fox at gmail.com  Fri May 11 23:42:00 2012
From: chris.david.fox at gmail.com (Chris Fox)
Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 17:42:00 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] May Meeting Call for Talks
In-Reply-To: <143208322-1336770844-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1261299321-@b3.c12.bise6.blackberry>
References: <4FAD7BAD.1070406@unc.edu>
	<143208322-1336770844-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1261299321-@b3.c12.bise6.blackberry>
Message-ID: <47EE4BDC-B6A3-40BB-B0FF-530F1AB2B6CD@gmail.com>

I verified that the classroom I have reserved was unlocked as of a little before 5 today. Building access is not a problem -- I can get into the building at any time.

Chris Fox

On May 11, 2012, at 5:14 PM, lionface.lemonface at gmail.com wrote:

> I work across the street for an NCSU affiliate organization - is there anything I can do?
> 
> JJ
> Sent on the Sprint? Now Network from my BlackBerry?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Calloway <cbc at unc.edu>
> Sender: trizpug-bounces+lionface.lemonface=gmail.com at python.org
> Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 16:50:53 
> To: Triangle (North Carolina) Zope and Python Users Group<trizpug at python.org>
> Reply-To: cbc at unc.edu,
>    "Triangle \(North Carolina\) Zope and Python Users Group"
>    <trizpug at python.org>
> Subject: [TriZPUG] May Meeting Call for Talks
> 
> To announce a talk for this meeting, simply speak up.
> 
> http://trizpug.org/Members/cbc/may-12-mtg
> 
> We are being hosted by CS grad student Chris Fox in Room 1226 of 
> Engineering Building II on the NCSU Centennial Campus at 7pm on Thursday 
> May 24.
> 
> This is Chris's first time hosting. He's got our room reservation but is 
> a little concerned about finding out how to insure we can actually get 
> into the building and room at 7pm. If any of our NCSU members can help 
> Chris, please speak up.
> 
> I'll be driving straight to the meeting from Plone Symposium at Penn 
> State. So just because I'm making this announcement, please don't call 
> me if you can't get in the building. We're all in the same boat in that 
> regard.
> 
> -- 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Chris Calloway http://nccoos.org/Members/cbc
> office: 3313 Venable Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
> mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599
> _______________________________________________
> TriZPUG mailing list
> TriZPUG at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug
> http://trizpug.org is the Triangle Zope and Python Users Group
> _______________________________________________
> TriZPUG mailing list
> TriZPUG at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug
> http://trizpug.org is the Triangle Zope and Python Users Group

From ironfroggy at gmail.com  Sun May 20 22:01:17 2012
From: ironfroggy at gmail.com (Calvin Spealman)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 16:01:17 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] PyCarolinas Talk Submissions
Message-ID: <CAGaVwhRNAXBYtDdA0F+ueWyPp65E3EXE92j_HK_879G+y=BG_w@mail.gmail.com>

TrizPUG and CharPy,

Some of you may already know that plans are underway for PyCarolinas
2012, to be held in October.
As the two Python User Groups in those "carolinas" (and please let me
know if SC has any groups I
should be including as well) I'd like to invite anyone interested to
join the organizer list. This will also
be where talks will be submitted.

This is hosted on google groups and you can request membership here:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/pycarolinas-org

I am keeping this private, but not forbidding anyone from joining. I
just want to keep discussion about
talk submissions a little non-public.

Thank you to anyone who wants to lend a hand or just attend!
Calvin Spealman

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From ironfroggy at gmail.com  Mon May 21 16:51:33 2012
From: ironfroggy at gmail.com (Calvin Spealman)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 10:51:33 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] PyCarolinas 2012 Call For Proposals
Message-ID: <CAGaVwhTPbZj-B8xPKpR1uhPoOpHhS0tSwgzfRkYN0V1ijkmudA@mail.gmail.com>

PyCarolinas 2012 Call For Proposals

PyCarolinas 2012, the first Python conference held in the carolinas,
is now accepting proposals! We?re looking for proposals for talks you
can present to this great and growing Python community.

PyCarolinas will be held in October in Chapel Hill, NC. The exact
location and dates of the two-day conference will be announced
shortly.

The proposal deadline is July 20, 2011. Please submit your proposals
to talks at pycarolinas.org.
About PyCarolinas 2012

PyCarolinas 2012 is the first Python Conference held in the carolinas
and will be located in Chapel Hill, NC this October. The specific date
and location will be announced shortly. It is a two day conference,
with one day of talks and one day or sprinting.
Who should submit a proposal?

Anyone! We?re looking for as broad a cross-section of the Python
community as possible.

We?re looking for both experienced conference speakers and people new
to technical conferences; industry professionals and hobbyists;
entrepreneurs, researchers, and system administrators. You?ve probably
learned something that other Python users could benefit from, so come
toPyCarolinas and share your story. Maybe you?ve written the next
great data mining package, or you have a case study to share, or
you?ve learned something about how to start a Python users? group, or
you just want to help novices learn how to choose a Python web
framework.

If you have something to tell your fellow Python programmers, this is
your chance.

You don?t have to be a professional speaker to give a talk at
PyCarolinas. Presenters can be volunteers from all walks of life and
all levels of experience. From hardcore hackers to educators to
hobbyists, anyone with something to say and the desire to say it is
welcome.

If you have a topic idea but you?re not sure exactly how to turn it
into a killer session, let us know! The program committee is happy to
work with you to help your session shine.
What kind of sessions can I give?

PyCarolinas 2012, as a small event, is acceptingonly traditional
sessions during the main conference. We are looking for sessions at 30
and 45 minutes. All levels of talks from from novice-level overviews
to advanced topics are welcome.
Conference registration and travel

PyCarolinas is entirely volunteer-organized and run, and must keep
costs as low as possible. We are unable to provide assistance or
compensation for speakers traveling to and staying near the conference
for the duration of the event.
Timeline and deadlines

Please don?t delay! The proposal window is long, but the sooner you
submit a proposal, the more time we?ll have to help you put forward
the best proposal. The program committee will officially begin
reviewing proposals and giving feedback as soon as the CFP closes, but
the team will attempt to begin reviewing and discussing proposals
prior to the close of the Call for Proposals to assist authors.

Proposals for talks will be accepted until July 20th. The list of
selected talks and tutorials will be finalized by the end of August.

Thank you!

Submit your proposal to talks at pycarolinas.org and thanks for helping
us make the first ever PyCarolinas great!

From ironfroggy at gmail.com  Mon May 21 17:02:13 2012
From: ironfroggy at gmail.com (Calvin Spealman)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 11:02:13 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] PyCarolinas 2012 Call For Proposals
In-Reply-To: <CAGaVwhTPbZj-B8xPKpR1uhPoOpHhS0tSwgzfRkYN0V1ijkmudA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGaVwhTPbZj-B8xPKpR1uhPoOpHhS0tSwgzfRkYN0V1ijkmudA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGaVwhTHnr3WMmN6uXcDFnTAkHC_5N_w-SRd+CANCAkGY=5yCQ@mail.gmail.com>

CORRECTION

The proposal deadline is July 20, 2012

Not 2011, obviously.

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Calvin Spealman <ironfroggy at gmail.com> wrote:
> PyCarolinas 2012 Call For Proposals
>
> PyCarolinas 2012, the first Python conference held in the carolinas,
> is now accepting proposals! We?re looking for proposals for talks you
> can present to this great and growing Python community.
>
> PyCarolinas will be held in October in Chapel Hill, NC. The exact
> location and dates of the two-day conference will be announced
> shortly.
>
> The proposal deadline is July 20, 2011. Please submit your proposals
> to talks at pycarolinas.org.
> About PyCarolinas 2012
>
> PyCarolinas 2012 is the first Python Conference held in the carolinas
> and will be located in Chapel Hill, NC this October. The specific date
> and location will be announced shortly. It is a two day conference,
> with one day of talks and one day or sprinting.
> Who should submit a proposal?
>
> Anyone! We?re looking for as broad a cross-section of the Python
> community as possible.
>
> We?re looking for both experienced conference speakers and people new
> to technical conferences; industry professionals and hobbyists;
> entrepreneurs, researchers, and system administrators. You?ve probably
> learned something that other Python users could benefit from, so come
> toPyCarolinas and share your story. Maybe you?ve written the next
> great data mining package, or you have a case study to share, or
> you?ve learned something about how to start a Python users? group, or
> you just want to help novices learn how to choose a Python web
> framework.
>
> If you have something to tell your fellow Python programmers, this is
> your chance.
>
> You don?t have to be a professional speaker to give a talk at
> PyCarolinas. Presenters can be volunteers from all walks of life and
> all levels of experience. From hardcore hackers to educators to
> hobbyists, anyone with something to say and the desire to say it is
> welcome.
>
> If you have a topic idea but you?re not sure exactly how to turn it
> into a killer session, let us know! The program committee is happy to
> work with you to help your session shine.
> What kind of sessions can I give?
>
> PyCarolinas 2012, as a small event, is acceptingonly traditional
> sessions during the main conference. We are looking for sessions at 30
> and 45 minutes. All levels of talks from from novice-level overviews
> to advanced topics are welcome.
> Conference registration and travel
>
> PyCarolinas is entirely volunteer-organized and run, and must keep
> costs as low as possible. We are unable to provide assistance or
> compensation for speakers traveling to and staying near the conference
> for the duration of the event.
> Timeline and deadlines
>
> Please don?t delay! The proposal window is long, but the sooner you
> submit a proposal, the more time we?ll have to help you put forward
> the best proposal. The program committee will officially begin
> reviewing proposals and giving feedback as soon as the CFP closes, but
> the team will attempt to begin reviewing and discussing proposals
> prior to the close of the Call for Proposals to assist authors.
>
> Proposals for talks will be accepted until July 20th. The list of
> selected talks and tutorials will be finalized by the end of August.
>
> Thank you!
>
> Submit your proposal to talks at pycarolinas.org and thanks for helping
> us make the first ever PyCarolinas great!



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From chris.david.fox at gmail.com  Thu May 24 00:14:17 2012
From: chris.david.fox at gmail.com (Christopher Fox)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 18:14:17 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] confirmation on room on Centennial
Message-ID: <CAMDaoZ0F_QeX5LF-GaQ2oFpZdHjJTkRvY5E2AwTameUt+tgpxw@mail.gmail.com>

Hello everyone!

We definitely will access to the room I've reserved for tomorrow night. The
room is 1226 in Engineering Building II. You'll need me to get into the
building, so I will wait in the downstairs area with large windows near the
roundabout.

Chris Fox
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From dragonstrider at gmail.com  Thu May 24 18:45:51 2012
From: dragonstrider at gmail.com (Joseph S. Tate)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 12:45:51 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] confirmation on room on Centennial
In-Reply-To: <CAMDaoZ0F_QeX5LF-GaQ2oFpZdHjJTkRvY5E2AwTameUt+tgpxw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMDaoZ0F_QeX5LF-GaQ2oFpZdHjJTkRvY5E2AwTameUt+tgpxw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+WDQbHswGJWmzSkixxn0p-FAGRxwSPaJ3rfqtgWEPvTydvhPQ@mail.gmail.com>

Anyone from South Durham, or Chapel Hill want to carpool?

On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Christopher Fox
<chris.david.fox at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello everyone!
>
> We definitely will access to the room I've reserved for tomorrow night. The
> room is 1226 in Engineering Building II. You'll need me to get into the
> building, so I will wait in the downstairs area with large windows near the
> roundabout.
>
> Chris Fox
>
> _______________________________________________
> TriZPUG mailing list
> TriZPUG at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug
> http://trizpug.org is the Triangle Zope and Python Users Group



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From ironfroggy at gmail.com  Fri May 25 12:09:28 2012
From: ironfroggy at gmail.com (Calvin Spealman)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 06:09:28 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] Meetup
Message-ID: <CAGaVwhT65cbBV8y74k5rst684PODeJob84or8PVvzmrfB1RXGA@mail.gmail.com>

All,

I know many of you don't like Meetup.com, but the fact is that people
do use it and like it.

Most importantly, they look at it. The look at the event page for last
night, where we had
ten or so attendees, and they see only 3 RSVPs. They look and think
we're a tiny group
and no one shows up or participates, so they don't bother showing up themselves.

Do a small part to promote TriZPUG today and tell meetup that you did,
in fact, attend.

And RSVP in the future!

http://www.meetup.com/trizpug/events/64777142/

http://www.meetup.com/trizpug/

-- 
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From stevegambino at gmail.com  Fri May 25 12:44:28 2012
From: stevegambino at gmail.com (Steve Gambino)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 06:44:28 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] Meetup
In-Reply-To: <CAGaVwhT65cbBV8y74k5rst684PODeJob84or8PVvzmrfB1RXGA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGaVwhT65cbBV8y74k5rst684PODeJob84or8PVvzmrfB1RXGA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEeiu_qPvz-zEFTvF0O-yhRAPntJwyaraZPd-5huvOQfkrF45w@mail.gmail.com>

Calvin,

Thanks for posting this reminder.  I wasn't aware of this "opportunity" to
promote and will make an effort to do so in the future.

Best,
Steve Gambino

On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 6:09 AM, Calvin Spealman <ironfroggy at gmail.com>wrote:

> All,
>
> I know many of you don't like Meetup.com, but the fact is that people
> do use it and like it.
>
> Most importantly, they look at it. The look at the event page for last
> night, where we had
> ten or so attendees, and they see only 3 RSVPs. They look and think
> we're a tiny group
> and no one shows up or participates, so they don't bother showing up
> themselves.
>
> Do a small part to promote TriZPUG today and tell meetup that you did,
> in fact, attend.
>
> And RSVP in the future!
>
> http://www.meetup.com/trizpug/events/64777142/
>
> http://www.meetup.com/trizpug/
>
> --
> Read my blog! I depend on your acceptance of my opinion! I am interesting!
> http://techblog.ironfroggy.com/
> Follow me if you're into that sort of thing:
> http://www.twitter.com/ironfroggy
> _______________________________________________
> TriZPUG mailing list
> TriZPUG at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug
> http://trizpug.org is the Triangle Zope and Python Users Group
>
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From chris.david.fox at gmail.com  Fri May 25 19:03:26 2012
From: chris.david.fox at gmail.com (Christopher Fox)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 13:03:26 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] Meetup
In-Reply-To: <CAEeiu_qPvz-zEFTvF0O-yhRAPntJwyaraZPd-5huvOQfkrF45w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGaVwhT65cbBV8y74k5rst684PODeJob84or8PVvzmrfB1RXGA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEeiu_qPvz-zEFTvF0O-yhRAPntJwyaraZPd-5huvOQfkrF45w@mail.gmail.com>
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I'm not familiar with Meetup. How do I say that I attended after the fact?

Chris Fox

On Friday, May 25, 2012, Steve Gambino <stevegambino at gmail.com> wrote:
> Calvin,
>
> Thanks for posting this reminder.  I wasn't aware of this "opportunity"
to promote and will make an effort to do so in the future.
>
> Best,
> Steve Gambino
>
> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 6:09 AM, Calvin Spealman <ironfroggy at gmail.com>
wrote:
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I know many of you don't like Meetup.com, but the fact is that people
>> do use it and like it.
>>
>> Most importantly, they look at it. The look at the event page for last
>> night, where we had
>> ten or so attendees, and they see only 3 RSVPs. They look and think
>> we're a tiny group
>> and no one shows up or participates, so they don't bother showing up
themselves.
>>
>> Do a small part to promote TriZPUG today and tell meetup that you did,
>> in fact, attend.
>>
>> And RSVP in the future!
>>
>> http://www.meetup.com/trizpug/events/64777142/
>>
>> http://www.meetup.com/trizpug/
>>
>> --
>> Read my blog! I depend on your acceptance of my opinion! I am
interesting!
>> http://techblog.ironfroggy.com/
>> Follow me if you're into that sort of thing:
http://www.twitter.com/ironfroggy
>> _______________________________________________
>> TriZPUG mailing list
>> TriZPUG at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug
>> http://trizpug.org is the Triangle Zope and Python Users Group
>
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From cbc at unc.edu  Fri May 25 19:10:26 2012
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 13:10:26 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] Meetup
In-Reply-To: <CAMDaoZ2S43OShCFFtoOKPYP9bq9-an04hLDqC5rAVar=GrqoNg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGaVwhT65cbBV8y74k5rst684PODeJob84or8PVvzmrfB1RXGA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEeiu_qPvz-zEFTvF0O-yhRAPntJwyaraZPd-5huvOQfkrF45w@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <4FBFBD02.3070409@unc.edu>

On 5/25/2012 1:03 PM, Christopher Fox wrote:
> I'm not familiar with Meetup. How do I say that I attended after the fact?

If you login to meetup.com and visit the event page for last night's 
meeting, does it not have some kind of button to click on for rating the 
meeting or something like that? I can't tell because it already shows me 
as having attended because it made the announcement on meetup.com. If 
you make the announcement, you automatically get marked as a "yes" RSVP. 
If you RSVP with a "yes," it also automatically assumes that you went to 
the meeting and advertizes that as fact on the past event pages.

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway http://nccoos.org/Members/cbc
office: 3313 Venable Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599

From ironfroggy at gmail.com  Fri May 25 19:13:45 2012
From: ironfroggy at gmail.com (Calvin Spealman)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 13:13:45 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] Meetup
In-Reply-To: <CAMDaoZ2S43OShCFFtoOKPYP9bq9-an04hLDqC5rAVar=GrqoNg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGaVwhT65cbBV8y74k5rst684PODeJob84or8PVvzmrfB1RXGA@mail.gmail.com>
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	<CAMDaoZ2S43OShCFFtoOKPYP9bq9-an04hLDqC5rAVar=GrqoNg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGaVwhRyqsTdwTpK4vJKKvy7FEaHeHqX00GmLPj8FjvvTOQ3tQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Christopher Fox
<chris.david.fox at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm not familiar with Meetup. How do I say that I attended after the fact?

Hmm... you should be able to review the meetup, which says you were there..

> Chris Fox
>
>
> On Friday, May 25, 2012, Steve Gambino <stevegambino at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Calvin,
>>
>> Thanks for posting this reminder.? I wasn't aware of this "opportunity" to
>> promote and will make an effort to do so in the future.
>>
>> Best,
>> Steve Gambino
>>
>> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 6:09 AM, Calvin Spealman <ironfroggy at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> I know many of you don't like Meetup.com, but the fact is that people
>>> do use it and like it.
>>>
>>> Most importantly, they look at it. The look at the event page for last
>>> night, where we had
>>> ten or so attendees, and they see only 3 RSVPs. They look and think
>>> we're a tiny group
>>> and no one shows up or participates, so they don't bother showing up
>>> themselves.
>>>
>>> Do a small part to promote TriZPUG today and tell meetup that you did,
>>> in fact, attend.
>>>
>>> And RSVP in the future!
>>>
>>> http://www.meetup.com/trizpug/events/64777142/
>>>
>>> http://www.meetup.com/trizpug/
>>>
>>> --
>>> Read my blog! I depend on your acceptance of my opinion! I am
>>> interesting!
>>> http://techblog.ironfroggy.com/
>>> Follow me if you're into that sort of thing:
>>> http://www.twitter.com/ironfroggy
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> TriZPUG mailing list
>>> TriZPUG at python.org
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug
>>> http://trizpug.org is the Triangle Zope and Python Users Group
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> TriZPUG mailing list
> TriZPUG at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug
> http://trizpug.org is the Triangle Zope and Python Users Group



-- 
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http://techblog.ironfroggy.com/
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From jcd at sdf.lonestar.org  Fri May 25 19:17:27 2012
From: jcd at sdf.lonestar.org (J. Cliff Dyer)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 13:17:27 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] Meetup
In-Reply-To: <CAMDaoZ2S43OShCFFtoOKPYP9bq9-an04hLDqC5rAVar=GrqoNg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGaVwhT65cbBV8y74k5rst684PODeJob84or8PVvzmrfB1RXGA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEeiu_qPvz-zEFTvF0O-yhRAPntJwyaraZPd-5huvOQfkrF45w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAMDaoZ2S43OShCFFtoOKPYP9bq9-an04hLDqC5rAVar=GrqoNg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1337966247.13690.4.camel@jcdyer-laptop>

Wouldn't it be easier to just mention how many people attended when we
send out an announcement about the meetings?  I doubt we'll get critical
mass on people reporting on meetup.

Cheers,
Cliff



On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 13:03 -0400, Christopher Fox wrote:
> I'm not familiar with Meetup. How do I say that I attended after the
> fact?
> 
> Chris Fox
> 
> On Friday, May 25, 2012, Steve Gambino <stevegambino at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Calvin,
> >
> > Thanks for posting this reminder.  I wasn't aware of this
> "opportunity" to promote and will make an effort to do so in the
> future. 
> >
> > Best,
> > Steve Gambino
> >
> > On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 6:09 AM, Calvin Spealman
> <ironfroggy at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> All,
> >>
> >> I know many of you don't like Meetup.com, but the fact is that
> people
> >> do use it and like it.
> >>
> >> Most importantly, they look at it. The look at the event page for
> last
> >> night, where we had
> >> ten or so attendees, and they see only 3 RSVPs. They look and think
> >> we're a tiny group
> >> and no one shows up or participates, so they don't bother showing
> up themselves.
> >>
> >> Do a small part to promote TriZPUG today and tell meetup that you
> did,
> >> in fact, attend.
> >>
> >> And RSVP in the future!
> >>
> >> http://www.meetup.com/trizpug/events/64777142/
> >>
> >> http://www.meetup.com/trizpug/
> >>
> >> --
> >> Read my blog! I depend on your acceptance of my opinion! I am
> interesting!
> >> http://techblog.ironfroggy.com/
> >> Follow me if you're into that sort of thing:
> http://www.twitter.com/ironfroggy
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> TriZPUG mailing list
> >> TriZPUG at python.org
> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug
> >> http://trizpug.org is the Triangle Zope and Python Users Group
> >
> > 
> _______________________________________________
> TriZPUG mailing list
> TriZPUG at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug
> http://trizpug.org is the Triangle Zope and Python Users Group



From chris.david.fox at gmail.com  Fri May 25 19:26:39 2012
From: chris.david.fox at gmail.com (Christopher Fox)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 13:26:39 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] Meetup
In-Reply-To: <4FBFBD02.3070409@unc.edu>
References: <CAGaVwhT65cbBV8y74k5rst684PODeJob84or8PVvzmrfB1RXGA@mail.gmail.com>
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	<CAMDaoZ2S43OShCFFtoOKPYP9bq9-an04hLDqC5rAVar=GrqoNg@mail.gmail.com>
	<4FBFBD02.3070409@unc.edu>
Message-ID: <CAMDaoZ1A+4Yg6zWiVbsf836y7qtCBEx6N+P+bvhKp2m_pw_ygg@mail.gmail.com>

On the event page for last night's meeting, I see where it says 2 people
have rated the meeting 5 stars, but there's no button for me to rate it.
Perhaps it's not letting me because I just joined the group now.

On Friday, May 25, 2012, Chris Calloway <cbc at unc.edu> wrote:
> On 5/25/2012 1:03 PM, Christopher Fox wrote:
>>
>> I'm not familiar with Meetup. How do I say that I attended after the
fact?
>
> If you login to meetup.com and visit the event page for last night's
meeting, does it not have some kind of button to click on for rating the
meeting or something like that? I can't tell because it already shows me as
having attended because it made the announcement on meetup.com. If you make
the announcement, you automatically get marked as a "yes" RSVP. If you RSVP
with a "yes," it also automatically assumes that you went to the meeting
and advertizes that as fact on the past event pages.
>
> --
> Sincerely,
>
> Chris Calloway http://nccoos.org/Members/cbc
> office: 3313 Venable Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
> mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599
> _______________________________________________
> TriZPUG mailing list
> TriZPUG at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug
> http://trizpug.org is the Triangle Zope and Python Users Group
>
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From cbc at unc.edu  Fri May 25 19:28:45 2012
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 13:28:45 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] Thanks and Shout-outs
Message-ID: <4FBFC14D.10800@unc.edu>

Thank you very much, Chris Fox, for hosting us in such a nice location, 
and special thanks for the reminder email. I look forward to hearing 
more about your computational linguistics with Python.

Shout-outs to Andrew Leeb, Ian Anderson, and Angela Wong, all who I 
reconnected with at Plone Symposium East this week. It's funny when I 
only see some TriZPUGers at far-away conferences but never back in the 
Triangle. :)

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway http://nccoos.org/Members/cbc
office: 3313 Venable Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599

From ironfroggy at gmail.com  Fri May 25 19:30:51 2012
From: ironfroggy at gmail.com (Calvin Spealman)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 13:30:51 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] Meetup
In-Reply-To: <1337966247.13690.4.camel@jcdyer-laptop>
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Message-ID: <CAGaVwhSjn1Cj=CoDHyOGc72ec6_rr-evxb9E=OM=-OrOWeZo+Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 1:17 PM, J. Cliff Dyer <jcd at sdf.lonestar.org> wrote:
> Wouldn't it be easier to just mention how many people attended when we
> send out an announcement about the meetings? ?I doubt we'll get critical
> mass on people reporting on meetup.

The issue is the people who don't see that, they see the meetup page. That is
primary interaction many people have with our event announcements and
schedule. For many, it is the only.

> Cheers,
> Cliff
>
>
>
> On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 13:03 -0400, Christopher Fox wrote:
>> I'm not familiar with Meetup. How do I say that I attended after the
>> fact?
>>
>> Chris Fox
>>
>> On Friday, May 25, 2012, Steve Gambino <stevegambino at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Calvin,
>> >
>> > Thanks for posting this reminder. ?I wasn't aware of this
>> "opportunity" to promote and will make an effort to do so in the
>> future.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Steve Gambino
>> >
>> > On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 6:09 AM, Calvin Spealman
>> <ironfroggy at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> All,
>> >>
>> >> I know many of you don't like Meetup.com, but the fact is that
>> people
>> >> do use it and like it.
>> >>
>> >> Most importantly, they look at it. The look at the event page for
>> last
>> >> night, where we had
>> >> ten or so attendees, and they see only 3 RSVPs. They look and think
>> >> we're a tiny group
>> >> and no one shows up or participates, so they don't bother showing
>> up themselves.
>> >>
>> >> Do a small part to promote TriZPUG today and tell meetup that you
>> did,
>> >> in fact, attend.
>> >>
>> >> And RSVP in the future!
>> >>
>> >> http://www.meetup.com/trizpug/events/64777142/
>> >>
>> >> http://www.meetup.com/trizpug/
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Read my blog! I depend on your acceptance of my opinion! I am
>> interesting!
>> >> http://techblog.ironfroggy.com/
>> >> Follow me if you're into that sort of thing:
>> http://www.twitter.com/ironfroggy
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> TriZPUG mailing list
>> >> TriZPUG at python.org
>> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug
>> >> http://trizpug.org is the Triangle Zope and Python Users Group
>> >
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
>> TriZPUG mailing list
>> TriZPUG at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug
>> http://trizpug.org is the Triangle Zope and Python Users Group
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> TriZPUG mailing list
> TriZPUG at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug
> http://trizpug.org is the Triangle Zope and Python Users Group



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From tdsimpson at gmail.com  Fri May 25 19:53:22 2012
From: tdsimpson at gmail.com (Troy S)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 13:53:22 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] Meetup
In-Reply-To: <CAGaVwhSjn1Cj=CoDHyOGc72ec6_rr-evxb9E=OM=-OrOWeZo+Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGaVwhT65cbBV8y74k5rst684PODeJob84or8PVvzmrfB1RXGA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEeiu_qPvz-zEFTvF0O-yhRAPntJwyaraZPd-5huvOQfkrF45w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAMDaoZ2S43OShCFFtoOKPYP9bq9-an04hLDqC5rAVar=GrqoNg@mail.gmail.com>
	<1337966247.13690.4.camel@jcdyer-laptop>
	<CAGaVwhSjn1Cj=CoDHyOGc72ec6_rr-evxb9E=OM=-OrOWeZo+Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAD_NLdwjjdrwO4ko0RfL5Uj=B8bgjaw3AQfdHhgU3CTR=RDKXQ@mail.gmail.com>

I tried to do what Calvin Suggested.

On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Calvin Spealman <ironfroggy at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 1:17 PM, J. Cliff Dyer <jcd at sdf.lonestar.org> wrote:
>> Wouldn't it be easier to just mention how many people attended when we
>> send out an announcement about the meetings? ?I doubt we'll get critical
>> mass on people reporting on meetup.
>
> The issue is the people who don't see that, they see the meetup page. That is
> primary interaction many people have with our event announcements and
> schedule. For many, it is the only.
>
>> Cheers,
>> Cliff
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 13:03 -0400, Christopher Fox wrote:
>>> I'm not familiar with Meetup. How do I say that I attended after the
>>> fact?
>>>
>>> Chris Fox
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 25, 2012, Steve Gambino <stevegambino at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Calvin,
>>> >
>>> > Thanks for posting this reminder. ?I wasn't aware of this
>>> "opportunity" to promote and will make an effort to do so in the
>>> future.
>>> >
>>> > Best,
>>> > Steve Gambino
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 6:09 AM, Calvin Spealman
>>> <ironfroggy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> All,
>>> >>
>>> >> I know many of you don't like Meetup.com, but the fact is that
>>> people
>>> >> do use it and like it.
>>> >>
>>> >> Most importantly, they look at it. The look at the event page for
>>> last
>>> >> night, where we had
>>> >> ten or so attendees, and they see only 3 RSVPs. They look and think
>>> >> we're a tiny group
>>> >> and no one shows up or participates, so they don't bother showing
>>> up themselves.
>>> >>
>>> >> Do a small part to promote TriZPUG today and tell meetup that you
>>> did,
>>> >> in fact, attend.
>>> >>
>>> >> And RSVP in the future!
>>> >>
>>> >> http://www.meetup.com/trizpug/events/64777142/
>>> >>
>>> >> http://www.meetup.com/trizpug/
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Read my blog! I depend on your acceptance of my opinion! I am
>>> interesting!
>>> >> http://techblog.ironfroggy.com/
>>> >> Follow me if you're into that sort of thing:
>>> http://www.twitter.com/ironfroggy
>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>> >> TriZPUG mailing list
>>> >> TriZPUG at python.org
>>> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug
>>> >> http://trizpug.org is the Triangle Zope and Python Users Group
>>> >
>>> >
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> TriZPUG mailing list
>>> TriZPUG at python.org
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug
>>> http://trizpug.org is the Triangle Zope and Python Users Group
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> TriZPUG mailing list
>> TriZPUG at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug
>> http://trizpug.org is the Triangle Zope and Python Users Group
>
>
>
> --
> Read my blog! I depend on your acceptance of my opinion! I am interesting!
> http://techblog.ironfroggy.com/
> Follow me if you're into that sort of thing: http://www.twitter.com/ironfroggy
> _______________________________________________
> TriZPUG mailing list
> TriZPUG at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug
> http://trizpug.org is the Triangle Zope and Python Users Group



-- 
Troy S

From cbc at unc.edu  Fri May 25 19:52:24 2012
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 13:52:24 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] Meetup
In-Reply-To: <1337966247.13690.4.camel@jcdyer-laptop>
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On 5/25/2012 1:17 PM, J. Cliff Dyer wrote:
> Wouldn't it be easier to just mention how many people attended when we
> send out an announcement about the meetings?

BTW, I always update the number who attended on the past event pages of 
meetup.com when I rate the meeting. (Somebody beat me to it today, 
though, which is a good thing.) The number shows up as text above the 
past meeting title. However, only the RSVPs show up as avatars on the 
past meetings and those are much more prominent than the tiny text 
number above them. I think that might be part of the concern.

-- 
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mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599

From jcd at sdf.lonestar.org  Fri May 25 20:30:18 2012
From: jcd at sdf.lonestar.org (J. Cliff Dyer)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 14:30:18 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] Meetup
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How many is many?

On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 13:30 -0400, Calvin Spealman wrote:
> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 1:17 PM, J. Cliff Dyer <jcd at sdf.lonestar.org> wrote:
> > Wouldn't it be easier to just mention how many people attended when we
> > send out an announcement about the meetings?  I doubt we'll get critical
> > mass on people reporting on meetup.
> 
> The issue is the people who don't see that, they see the meetup page. That is
> primary interaction many people have with our event announcements and
> schedule. For many, it is the only.
> 
> > Cheers,
> > Cliff
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 13:03 -0400, Christopher Fox wrote:
> >> I'm not familiar with Meetup. How do I say that I attended after the
> >> fact?
> >>
> >> Chris Fox
> >>
> >> On Friday, May 25, 2012, Steve Gambino <stevegambino at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Calvin,
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for posting this reminder.  I wasn't aware of this
> >> "opportunity" to promote and will make an effort to do so in the
> >> future.
> >> >
> >> > Best,
> >> > Steve Gambino
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 6:09 AM, Calvin Spealman
> >> <ironfroggy at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> All,
> >> >>
> >> >> I know many of you don't like Meetup.com, but the fact is that
> >> people
> >> >> do use it and like it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Most importantly, they look at it. The look at the event page for
> >> last
> >> >> night, where we had
> >> >> ten or so attendees, and they see only 3 RSVPs. They look and think
> >> >> we're a tiny group
> >> >> and no one shows up or participates, so they don't bother showing
> >> up themselves.
> >> >>
> >> >> Do a small part to promote TriZPUG today and tell meetup that you
> >> did,
> >> >> in fact, attend.
> >> >>
> >> >> And RSVP in the future!
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.meetup.com/trizpug/events/64777142/
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.meetup.com/trizpug/
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Read my blog! I depend on your acceptance of my opinion! I am
> >> interesting!
> >> >> http://techblog.ironfroggy.com/
> >> >> Follow me if you're into that sort of thing:
> >> http://www.twitter.com/ironfroggy
> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> TriZPUG mailing list
> >> >> TriZPUG at python.org
> >> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug
> >> >> http://trizpug.org is the Triangle Zope and Python Users Group
> >> >
> >> >
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> TriZPUG mailing list
> >> TriZPUG at python.org
> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug
> >> http://trizpug.org is the Triangle Zope and Python Users Group
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > TriZPUG mailing list
> > TriZPUG at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug
> > http://trizpug.org is the Triangle Zope and Python Users Group
> 
> 
> 



From ironfroggy at gmail.com  Fri May 25 21:13:04 2012
From: ironfroggy at gmail.com (Calvin Spealman)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 15:13:04 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] Meetup
In-Reply-To: <1337970618.13690.5.camel@jcdyer-laptop>
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On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 2:30 PM, J. Cliff Dyer <jcd at sdf.lonestar.org> wrote:
> How many is many?

When it comes to missing out on people we could have in our community,
but dont, any to is too many.

> On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 13:30 -0400, Calvin Spealman wrote:
>> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 1:17 PM, J. Cliff Dyer <jcd at sdf.lonestar.org> wrote:
>> > Wouldn't it be easier to just mention how many people attended when we
>> > send out an announcement about the meetings? ?I doubt we'll get critical
>> > mass on people reporting on meetup.
>>
>> The issue is the people who don't see that, they see the meetup page. That is
>> primary interaction many people have with our event announcements and
>> schedule. For many, it is the only.
>>
>> > Cheers,
>> > Cliff
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 13:03 -0400, Christopher Fox wrote:
>> >> I'm not familiar with Meetup. How do I say that I attended after the
>> >> fact?
>> >>
>> >> Chris Fox
>> >>
>> >> On Friday, May 25, 2012, Steve Gambino <stevegambino at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Calvin,
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks for posting this reminder. ?I wasn't aware of this
>> >> "opportunity" to promote and will make an effort to do so in the
>> >> future.
>> >> >
>> >> > Best,
>> >> > Steve Gambino
>> >> >
>> >> > On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 6:09 AM, Calvin Spealman
>> >> <ironfroggy at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> All,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I know many of you don't like Meetup.com, but the fact is that
>> >> people
>> >> >> do use it and like it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Most importantly, they look at it. The look at the event page for
>> >> last
>> >> >> night, where we had
>> >> >> ten or so attendees, and they see only 3 RSVPs. They look and think
>> >> >> we're a tiny group
>> >> >> and no one shows up or participates, so they don't bother showing
>> >> up themselves.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Do a small part to promote TriZPUG today and tell meetup that you
>> >> did,
>> >> >> in fact, attend.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> And RSVP in the future!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://www.meetup.com/trizpug/events/64777142/
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://www.meetup.com/trizpug/
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Read my blog! I depend on your acceptance of my opinion! I am
>> >> interesting!
>> >> >> http://techblog.ironfroggy.com/
>> >> >> Follow me if you're into that sort of thing:
>> >> http://www.twitter.com/ironfroggy
>> >> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> >> TriZPUG mailing list
>> >> >> TriZPUG at python.org
>> >> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug
>> >> >> http://trizpug.org is the Triangle Zope and Python Users Group
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> TriZPUG mailing list
>> >> TriZPUG at python.org
>> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug
>> >> http://trizpug.org is the Triangle Zope and Python Users Group
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > TriZPUG mailing list
>> > TriZPUG at python.org
>> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug
>> > http://trizpug.org is the Triangle Zope and Python Users Group
>>
>>
>>
>
>



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From cbc at unc.edu  Fri May 25 21:51:40 2012
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 15:51:40 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] Meetup
In-Reply-To: <1337970618.13690.5.camel@jcdyer-laptop>
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On 5/25/2012 2:30 PM, J. Cliff Dyer wrote:
> How many is many?

Here's one metric: TriZPUG has 90 members on meetup.com and 192 through 
mail.python.org.

Those numbers also have a pretty big intersection. And within that 
intersection, most of them were already members through mail.python.org 
before signing up through meetup.com.

My perception is "many" == a few.

However, I think it is not a bad idea to reach out to even the few and I 
support Calvin's initiative to request people interested in promoting 
the group to RSVP.

I'd also like to see Calvin update the project night announcement on 
TriZPUG.org. :)

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway http://nccoos.org/Members/cbc
office: 3313 Venable Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599

From ironfroggy at gmail.com  Fri May 25 21:55:18 2012
From: ironfroggy at gmail.com (Calvin Spealman)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 15:55:18 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] Meetup
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On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Chris Calloway <cbc at unc.edu> wrote:
> On 5/25/2012 2:30 PM, J. Cliff Dyer wrote:
>>
>> How many is many?
>
>
> Here's one metric: TriZPUG has 90 members on meetup.com and 192 through
> mail.python.org.
>
> Those numbers also have a pretty big intersection. And within that
> intersection, most of them were already members through mail.python.org
> before signing up through meetup.com.
>
> My perception is "many" == a few.
>
> However, I think it is not a bad idea to reach out to even the few and I
> support Calvin's initiative to request people interested in promoting the
> group to RSVP.
>
> I'd also like to see Calvin update the project night announcement on
> TriZPUG.org. :)

Not-so-subtle note taken

>
> --
> Sincerely,
>
> Chris Calloway http://nccoos.org/Members/cbc
> office: 3313 Venable Hall ? phone: (919) 599-3530
> mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599
> _______________________________________________
> TriZPUG mailing list
> TriZPUG at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug
> http://trizpug.org is the Triangle Zope and Python Users Group



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From cbc at unc.edu  Fri May 25 23:08:38 2012
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 17:08:38 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] PyData Workshop Video
Message-ID: <4FBFF4D6.7070409@unc.edu>

The video from the PyData workshop between OSCON and PyCon has been 
released:

http://marakana.com/s/2012_pydata_workshop,1090/index.html

I know some of you are interested in Pandas, the stats wrapper for numpy 
(for people who don't know/are frustrated with R and RPy). There is a 
Pandas talk by the ever remarkable Wes McKinney among the workshop videos.

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway http://nccoos.org/Members/cbc
office: 3313 Venable Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599

From chris.david.fox at gmail.com  Mon May 28 05:51:21 2012
From: chris.david.fox at gmail.com (Christopher Fox)
Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 23:51:21 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] project nights, etc.
Message-ID: <CAMDaoZ0z5hiavMNffFLMt3dfQ3-DiZaF_fRZWUDMGZUoqA+vFQ@mail.gmail.com>

Besides Project Night at Caktus, what are some other similar events in the
area? I think I heard a couple of others mentioned during last week's
meeting, but I don't remember what they are.

Chris Fox
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From justis.peters at gmail.com  Mon May 28 06:06:51 2012
From: justis.peters at gmail.com (Justis Peters)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 00:06:51 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] project nights, etc.
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On 05/27/2012 11:51 PM, Christopher Fox wrote:
> Besides Project Night at Caktus, what are some other similar events in 
> the area? I think I heard a couple of others mentioned during last 
> week's meeting, but I don't remember what they are.
SplatSpace hosts a "software project night" every Sunday. Here's the 
next one:
   http://www.meetup.com/splatspace/events/zmrzqyqjbfb/

There are also language-specific hack nights for a few meetups in the 
area. The ones I know of are for Raleigh.rb (Ruby) and 
TriangleJavascript. If you interested in either of those, check for the 
related groups on meetup.com. They are, of course, not about python. If 
you go to the Sunday event at SplatSpace, though, you'll find a decent 
number of pythonistas there.

You are also welcome to call shotgun on your own hack night. Just let us 
know when and where :)

Kind regards,
Justis

From chris.david.fox at gmail.com  Tue May 29 00:52:45 2012
From: chris.david.fox at gmail.com (Christopher Fox)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 18:52:45 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] project nights, etc.
In-Reply-To: <4FC2F9DB.8080704@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <5891629083826230059@unknownmsgid>

Thanks.

On May 28, 2012, at 12:07 AM, Justis Peters <justis.peters at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 05/27/2012 11:51 PM, Christopher Fox wrote:
>> Besides Project Night at Caktus, what are some other similar events in the area? I think I heard a couple of others mentioned during last week's meeting, but I don't remember what they are.
> SplatSpace hosts a "software project night" every Sunday. Here's the next one:
>  http://www.meetup.com/splatspace/events/zmrzqyqjbfb/
>
> There are also language-specific hack nights for a few meetups in the area. The ones I know of are for Raleigh.rb (Ruby) and TriangleJavascript. If you interested in either of those, check for the related groups on meetup.com. They are, of course, not about python. If you go to the Sunday event at SplatSpace, though, you'll find a decent number of pythonistas there.
>
> You are also welcome to call shotgun on your own hack night. Just let us know when and where :)
>
> Kind regards,
> Justis
> _______________________________________________
> TriZPUG mailing list
> TriZPUG at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug
> http://trizpug.org is the Triangle Zope and Python Users Group

From cbc at unc.edu  Wed May 30 17:45:22 2012
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 11:45:22 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] DjangoCon US 2012 Accepting Talk and Tutorial Proposals
Message-ID: <4FC64092.3090509@unc.edu>

The following comes from Sean O'Connor (sean at seanoc.com)...

On 5/29/2012 9:06 PM, Sean O'Connor wrote:
 > Hello Everybody,
 >
 > We've just started to accept talk and tutorial proposals for this
 > year's DjangoCon US. This year's conference is happening September
 > 4th - 6th in Washington D.C.
 >
 > If you're interested in submitting a proposal, check out DjangoCon.us
 > <http://djangocon.us/blog/2012/05/29/welcome-djangocon-2012/> for all
 > of the details. Proposals will be accepted until 6/16 so get your's
 > in today!
 >
 > --
 > Sean O'Connor
 > http://www.seanoc.com

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway http://nccoos.org/Members/cbc
office: 3313 Venable Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599

From cbc at unc.edu  Thu May 31 21:23:14 2012
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 15:23:14 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] TriZPUG June 2012 Meeting: The Best Meeting Ever
Message-ID: <4FC7C522.1000109@unc.edu>

Announcing this meeting a full four weeks in advance in hopes that 
somebody will step forward witih a major presentation:

http://trizpug.org/Members/cbc/jun-12-mtg

When: Thursday, June 28, 7pm
Where: SplatSpace, 331 W. Main St, Durham

"This will be the best TriZPUG meeting ever, because you make the 
meeting. If you would like to make a presentation on a major topic, 
please notify the TriZPUG email list and the meeting notice will be 
changed to reflect your commitment. As always, unannounced lightning 
talks are always welcome. Lightning talks are 5 to 10 minutes 
extemporaneous expositions on a topic of interest to you, something you 
recently learned, kind of like a show and tell. We'll be meeting at 
Splatspace, a non-profit member-supported workshop and hacker meeting 
place. Splatspace is located in the basement of the Snow Building at 331 
W. Main St. in Durham. Parking (free exit after 7pm) is in the back of 
the building in the lot off Ramseur St. on the downtown Durham loop (one 
way, approach Ramseur from W. Main St. or W. Chapel Hill St.. If you 
arrive after 7pm, please call 919-493-8444 to be let in the door."

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway http://nccoos.org/Members/cbc
office: 3313 Venable Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599