From brad.crittenden at gmail.com  Mon Sep  1 22:34:32 2008
From: brad.crittenden at gmail.com (Bradley A. Crittenden)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 16:34:32 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] Fwd: Have a Meetup at CCC
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Hi TriZPuggers,

Brian Russell of Carrboro Creative Coworking makes a very generous  
offer.  If anyone is planning a small sprint you might want to take  
him up on it.

--Brad


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>
> Are you part of a software dev team that has a bunch of local
> residents? or maybe a users group? Want to have a local Tweetup/ 
> Meetup/
> Sprint/Unconference? Need a place to meet? Carrboro Creative Coworking
> is offering FREE space for small technology/design events.
>
> On Saturday October 25 developers of the Ruby on Rails based Radiant
> CMS are conducting a sprint at CCC. Find more info about this event
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>
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From Tom_Roche at pobox.com  Tue Sep  2 06:57:25 2008
From: Tom_Roche at pobox.com (Tom Roche)
Date: Tue,  2 Sep 2008 00:57:25 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [TriZPUG] {science, python} newb seeks {calculation,
	formatting} advice
Message-ID: <20080902045725.403EB11EECE@front-topsail.isis.unc.edu>


Basically I'm looking for help with my homework :-) which involves
outputting formatted scientific equations and their solutions. I'm
wondering how to more productively use python to create documents with
equations (including units), and their solutions. What I mean:

I'm starting grad school, and they're expecting me to hand in stuff
(basically chemistry and physics problems) in PDF. I didn't hafta do
that as an undergrad (which wasn't *that* long ago), so I'm whacking
together a solution. Being too busy/lazy for TeX at the moment, I'm
using OpenOffice:

+ it ain't M$ Office

+ OO Writer generates PDFs easily/cleanly OOTB

+ OO Math's equation editor is easy, and it integrates pretty well
  with Writer

- no integrated solver that I can see. (If you know how to make OO do
  this, please lemme know. I'm lazy enough that I want the word
  processor to solve my equations for me, and, though I did search a
  bit, possibly too lazy to find out how to make that happen.)

So my workflow now is like

0 setup an equation in OO (including any required unit conversions
  <yuck/>)

1 bail to python for the calculations. That I can basically cut/paste
  out of OO Math into the shell dulls the pain somewhat:

>>> import math
>>> d=1e-6
>>> V=math.pi*(d**3)/6
>>> rho_p=1000
>>> m=rho_p*V
>>> m_t=1e-11 # converting units in my head--"danger, Will Robinson!"
>>> n_p=m_t/m
>>> print '%3.2e' % (n_p)
1.91e+04

2 paste answers back into OO Math

until I have all the equations done, and I can generate my PDF. I'd
appreciate suggestions regarding easier/better ways to do this,
especially (in increasing order of appreciation)

* format coercion: e.g. is there a way that I can set something (like
  'scale' in `bc`) once so that I could thereafter just do

>>> m_t/m
1.91e+04

  and get the results in the format I want without repeated print's?
  Extra credit for making it do the calculations with specified
  significant digits.

* automating unit conversions

* doing more serious math (coming down the pipeline before too long):
  matrices, numeric differentiation and integration.

* automating solutions

TIA, Tom Roche <Tom_Roche at pobox.com>

From jmack at wm7d.net  Tue Sep  2 09:02:30 2008
From: jmack at wm7d.net (Joseph Mack NA3T)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 00:02:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [TriZPUG] {science, python} newb seeks {calculation,
 formatting} advice
In-Reply-To: <20080902045725.403EB11EECE@front-topsail.isis.unc.edu>
References: <20080902045725.403EB11EECE@front-topsail.isis.unc.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0809012359090.27172@wm7d.net>

On Tue, 2 Sep 2008, Tom Roche wrote:

>
> Basically I'm looking for help with my homework :-) which 
> involves outputting formatted scientific equations and 
> their solutions.

Am interesting idea. I heard something about a TeX-like 
language to do the same thing, but it's only a proposal. 
Possibly it's been a proposal for a long time and I've only 
just heard about it. AFAIK there's no code.

I don't know of anything out of the box that does this, 
otherwise there'd be no need for the TeX-like proposal.

Joe

-- 
Joseph Mack NA3T EME(B,D), FM05lw North Carolina
jmack (at) wm7d (dot) net - azimuthal equidistant map
generator at http://www.wm7d.net/azproj.shtml
Homepage http://www.austintek.com/ It's GNU/Linux!

From chris at christophermrossi.com  Tue Sep  2 15:23:01 2008
From: chris at christophermrossi.com (Chris Rossi)
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 09:23:01 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] {science, python} newb seeks {calculation,
 formatting} advice
In-Reply-To: <20080902045725.403EB11EECE@front-topsail.isis.unc.edu>
References: <20080902045725.403EB11EECE@front-topsail.isis.unc.edu>
Message-ID: <48BD3E35.3030607@christophermrossi.com>

Isn't this what MatLab is for?  I've never had to use it myself, so I 
may be way off base, though. 

chris


Tom Roche wrote:
> Basically I'm looking for help with my homework :-) which involves
> outputting formatted scientific equations and their solutions. I'm
> wondering how to more productively use python to create documents with
> equations (including units), and their solutions. What I mean:
>
> I'm starting grad school, and they're expecting me to hand in stuff
> (basically chemistry and physics problems) in PDF. I didn't hafta do
> that as an undergrad (which wasn't *that* long ago), so I'm whacking
> together a solution. Being too busy/lazy for TeX at the moment, I'm
> using OpenOffice:
>
> + it ain't M$ Office
>
> + OO Writer generates PDFs easily/cleanly OOTB
>
> + OO Math's equation editor is easy, and it integrates pretty well
>   with Writer
>
> - no integrated solver that I can see. (If you know how to make OO do
>   this, please lemme know. I'm lazy enough that I want the word
>   processor to solve my equations for me, and, though I did search a
>   bit, possibly too lazy to find out how to make that happen.)
>
> So my workflow now is like
>
> 0 setup an equation in OO (including any required unit conversions
>   <yuck/>)
>
> 1 bail to python for the calculations. That I can basically cut/paste
>   out of OO Math into the shell dulls the pain somewhat:
>
>   
>>>> import math
>>>> d=1e-6
>>>> V=math.pi*(d**3)/6
>>>> rho_p=1000
>>>> m=rho_p*V
>>>> m_t=1e-11 # converting units in my head--"danger, Will Robinson!"
>>>> n_p=m_t/m
>>>> print '%3.2e' % (n_p)
>>>>         
> 1.91e+04
>
> 2 paste answers back into OO Math
>
> until I have all the equations done, and I can generate my PDF. I'd
> appreciate suggestions regarding easier/better ways to do this,
> especially (in increasing order of appreciation)
>
> * format coercion: e.g. is there a way that I can set something (like
>   'scale' in `bc`) once so that I could thereafter just do
>
>   
>>>> m_t/m
>>>>         
> 1.91e+04
>
>   and get the results in the format I want without repeated print's?
>   Extra credit for making it do the calculations with specified
>   significant digits.
>
> * automating unit conversions
>
> * doing more serious math (coming down the pipeline before too long):
>   matrices, numeric differentiation and integration.
>
> * automating solutions
>
> TIA, Tom Roche <Tom_Roche at pobox.com>
> _______________________________________________
> TriZPUG mailing list
> TriZPUG at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug
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>   


-- 
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http://christophermrossi.com                             +1 919 858 6150


From philip at semanchuk.com  Tue Sep  2 15:52:44 2008
From: philip at semanchuk.com (Philip Semanchuk)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 09:52:44 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] {science, python} newb seeks {calculation,
	formatting} advice
In-Reply-To: <20080902045725.403EB11EECE@front-topsail.isis.unc.edu>
References: <20080902045725.403EB11EECE@front-topsail.isis.unc.edu>
Message-ID: <CAA631B7-8013-4071-BC1E-969E346DC9DE@semanchuk.com>

Tom,
OpenOffice can be automated via Python:
http://udk.openoffice.org/python/python-bridge.html

"can" being an important word here -- I suspect it is technically  
possible but probably somewhat arduous to get working. After all,  
you'd probably be simultaneously learning both OO's scripting language  
and how to manipulate it through Python. Nevertheless, it's an option  
and it might be worth the investment esp. if you can sell it to your  
peers for beer money.

Python's Decimal type might help with the significant digits problem,  
but I second the vote for investigating Matlab. It sounds like you'll  
be doing heavy-duty math stuff that might exceed the capabilities of  
Python's standard library. (Disclaimer: I'm not a math guy.)

Good luck
Philip

On Sep 2, 2008, at 12:57 AM, Tom Roche wrote:

>
> Basically I'm looking for help with my homework :-) which involves
> outputting formatted scientific equations and their solutions. I'm
> wondering how to more productively use python to create documents with
> equations (including units), and their solutions. What I mean:
>
> I'm starting grad school, and they're expecting me to hand in stuff
> (basically chemistry and physics problems) in PDF. I didn't hafta do
> that as an undergrad (which wasn't *that* long ago), so I'm whacking
> together a solution. Being too busy/lazy for TeX at the moment, I'm
> using OpenOffice:
>
> + it ain't M$ Office
>
> + OO Writer generates PDFs easily/cleanly OOTB
>
> + OO Math's equation editor is easy, and it integrates pretty well
>  with Writer
>
> - no integrated solver that I can see. (If you know how to make OO do
>  this, please lemme know. I'm lazy enough that I want the word
>  processor to solve my equations for me, and, though I did search a
>  bit, possibly too lazy to find out how to make that happen.)
>
> So my workflow now is like
>
> 0 setup an equation in OO (including any required unit conversions
>  <yuck/>)
>
> 1 bail to python for the calculations. That I can basically cut/paste
>  out of OO Math into the shell dulls the pain somewhat:
>
>>>> import math
>>>> d=1e-6
>>>> V=math.pi*(d**3)/6
>>>> rho_p=1000
>>>> m=rho_p*V
>>>> m_t=1e-11 # converting units in my head--"danger, Will Robinson!"
>>>> n_p=m_t/m
>>>> print '%3.2e' % (n_p)
> 1.91e+04
>
> 2 paste answers back into OO Math
>
> until I have all the equations done, and I can generate my PDF. I'd
> appreciate suggestions regarding easier/better ways to do this,
> especially (in increasing order of appreciation)
>
> * format coercion: e.g. is there a way that I can set something (like
>  'scale' in `bc`) once so that I could thereafter just do
>
>>>> m_t/m
> 1.91e+04
>
>  and get the results in the format I want without repeated print's?
>  Extra credit for making it do the calculations with specified
>  significant digits.
>
> * automating unit conversions
>
> * doing more serious math (coming down the pipeline before too long):
>  matrices, numeric differentiation and integration.
>
> * automating solutions
>
> TIA, Tom Roche <Tom_Roche at pobox.com>
> _______________________________________________
> TriZPUG mailing list
> TriZPUG at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug
> http://trizpug.org is the Triangle Zope and Python Users Group


From bbb at email.unc.edu  Tue Sep  2 18:22:52 2008
From: bbb at email.unc.edu (Bjoern Brandenburg)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 12:22:52 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] {science, python} newb seeks {calculation,
	formatting} advice
In-Reply-To: <20080902045725.403EB11EECE@front-topsail.isis.unc.edu>
References: <20080902045725.403EB11EECE@front-topsail.isis.unc.edu>
Message-ID: <96B5DD9B-BE72-401A-83D4-9819E25AF2F4@email.unc.edu>

On Sep 2, 2008, at 12:57 AM, Tom Roche wrote:
>>>> m_t=1e-11 # converting units in my head--"danger, Will Robinson!"

You might want to look into Frink [1], which advertises itself as full- 
fledged programming language that "tracks units of measure (feet,  
meters, kilograms, watts, etc.) through all calculations, allowing you  
to make physical calculations easily, to mix units of measure  
transparently, and ensures that the answers come out right."

Regarding Latex/OO.o, I would really suggest investing the time to  
learn Latex. It's really not difficult to get startet and it is very  
easy to generate Latex from your scripts. As a plus, it looks very  
professional and once you get to writing scientific papers you are  
ready to go. OO.o/Word are really not that great for writing paper in  
my opinion.

Personally, I dislike Matlab as a language. May I suggest the Python- 
based  Sage [2]? It does have a pretty cool notebook feature [3] that  
you could use together with a PDF printer.

- Bjoern

[1] http://futureboy.us/frinkdocs/
[2] http://www.sagemath.org/
[3] http://www.flickr.com/photos/sagescreenshots/sets/72157603532209437/


From david at handysoftware.com  Tue Sep  2 19:38:15 2008
From: david at handysoftware.com (David Handy)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 13:38:15 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] {science, python} newb seeks {calculation,
	formatting} advice
In-Reply-To: <20080902045725.403EB11EECE@front-topsail.isis.unc.edu>
References: <20080902045725.403EB11EECE@front-topsail.isis.unc.edu>
Message-ID: <20080902173815.GA540@arno2>

On Tue, Sep 02, 2008 at 12:57:25AM -0400, Tom Roche wrote:
> 
> Basically I'm looking for help with my homework :-) which involves
> outputting formatted scientific equations and their solutions. I'm
> wondering how to more productively use python to create documents with
> equations (including units), and their solutions. What I mean:
 
For getting the units right in calculations, there seem to be a number of
people who have tackled that problem in Python:

http://pypi.python.org/pypi/magnitude/0.9.1

http://xml.coverpages.org/PhysicsML-2001.html

http://dirac.cnrs-orleans.fr/ScientificPython/ScientificPythonManual/

(I googled "python physics units").

I downloaded and tried out somone's physical unit python package, the
problem is, I can't remember which one I tried... it seemed to work well,
whichever one it was. But I had no immediate use for it, so I don't have it
around any more.

David H

-- 
David Handy
Computer Programming is Fun!
Beginning Computer Programming with Python
http://www.handysoftware.com/cpif/

From robbyd at sent.com  Tue Sep  2 15:43:08 2008
From: robbyd at sent.com (Robby Dermody)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 09:43:08 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] {science, python} newb seeks {calculation,
	formatting} advice
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0809012359090.27172@wm7d.net>
References: <20080902045725.403EB11EECE@front-topsail.isis.unc.edu>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0809012359090.27172@wm7d.net>
Message-ID: <042601c90d01$d6dee4f0$849caed0$@com>


Hi Tom,

IANAS (I am not a scientist), but I have some input here.

If it's just about outputting your equations, I'd definitely look into
LaTeX. I used to use this graphical LaTeX editor called that I liked a lot
called LyX (http://www.lyx.org/). Output to PDF or Postscript was simple. A
quick search brought up the following links which may be useful:

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Mathematics
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Producing_Mathematical_Graphics
http://www.xm1math.net/texmaker/
http://www.codecogs.com/components/equationeditor/equationeditor.php
http://www.latexeditor.org/


If it's about solving problems, Matlab (as another poster recommended). For
free versions, you may want to take a look at Scilab
(http://www.scilab.org/) or Octave (http://www.gnu.org/software/octave/)
...although I've never used these.

HTH,

Robby

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To: trizpug at python.org
Subject: Re: [TriZPUG] {science, python} newb seeks {calculation,
formatting} advice

On Tue, 2 Sep 2008, Tom Roche wrote:

>
> Basically I'm looking for help with my homework :-) which 
> involves outputting formatted scientific equations and 
> their solutions.

Am interesting idea. I heard something about a TeX-like 
language to do the same thing, but it's only a proposal. 
Possibly it's been a proposal for a long time and I've only 
just heard about it. AFAIK there's no code.

I don't know of anything out of the box that does this, 
otherwise there'd be no need for the TeX-like proposal.

Joe

-- 
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jmack (at) wm7d (dot) net - azimuthal equidistant map
generator at http://www.wm7d.net/azproj.shtml
Homepage http://www.austintek.com/ It's GNU/Linux!
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From cbc at unc.edu  Tue Sep  2 22:31:52 2008
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 16:31:52 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] {science, python} newb seeks {calculation,
 formatting} advice
In-Reply-To: <20080902045725.403EB11EECE@front-topsail.isis.unc.edu>
References: <20080902045725.403EB11EECE@front-topsail.isis.unc.edu>
Message-ID: <48BDA2B8.5010809@unc.edu>

On 9/2/2008 12:57 AM, Tom Roche wrote:
> Being too busy/lazy for TeX at the moment

If you are going to be in grad school in the sciences, you need to bite 
the TeX/LaTeX bullet right away. That is actually your path of *least* 
resistance to all kinds of things. All official Python documentation is 
also prepared with LaTeX, so it serves more than one purpose to learn it.

A python library called matplotlib will publish math plots to PDF. It 
has a texmanager module for embedding TeX into the plots. It has a 
matlab compatibility layer called pylab. It directly interfaces to the 
numpy and SciPy modules. SciPy has lots of solvers for many classes of 
equations.

If you are going to automate a pipeline, which is more work, The UNO 
library Philip suggests is good. The main difficulty in getting it to 
work is just having your library paths include UNO libraries. See my 
post about this in the Python Tutor list archives.

Matlab has a latex() function for creating latex from matlab 
expressions. Type "help latex" at the matlab prompt.

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.secoora.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599




From cbc at unc.edu  Wed Sep  3 21:04:56 2008
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 15:04:56 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] New Python Doc System
Message-ID: <48BEDFD8.6060002@unc.edu>

Take a look at what Python docs are going to look like in the future 
(generated by Sphinx):

http://docs.python.org/dev/whatsnew/2.6.html

http://sphinx.pocoo.org/

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.secoora.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599


From bendonnelly at gmail.com  Wed Sep  3 23:10:45 2008
From: bendonnelly at gmail.com (Ben Donnelly)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 17:10:45 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] Visualization-oriented developer position a Duke
Message-ID: <f43e5d7b0809031410nee33e78yaa731b7ecf1d9ec5@mail.gmail.com>

Hey there Trizpug'ers

Our lab (http://mgel.env.duke.edu) has been noticeably absent at
Trizpug events lately 'cause we got so much we're working on. Maybe
one of you want to join in? We are looking to hire a
analyst/programmer for geospatial development. The ideal person would
have a mix of GIS and web skills. Most of the tools we develop are web
oriented, on a Python->Postgres->Apache->Linux stack, Plone being the
main front end for our sites.There's possibly a training and travel
component to the job as well.

Here's the details:

http://mgel.env.duke.edu/seeking-gis-developer

Please feel free to pass this along.

thanks-
Ben Donnelly
Marine Geospatial Ecology Lab  |  Nicholas School
Research Programmer             |  Duke University
http://mgel.env.duke.edu       | (919) 613-8021 x7

From cbc at unc.edu  Thu Sep  4 21:06:44 2008
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 15:06:44 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] looking for Plone developer
In-Reply-To: <4D599194CDE7460696F4D9F835035726@e510>
References: <4D599194CDE7460696F4D9F835035726@e510>
Message-ID: <48C031C4.7080506@unc.edu>

Matt,

Thanks. I think the best way to help out is if I copy this to our local 
user group. NetCorps has been active in our group in the past through 
Cheryl Jerozal. And, as a member of the NC Coastal Federation, I want to 
say how much I appreciate what NetCorps has done for us.

Are you coming to Plone Conference? That might be a good fishing grounds 
for new help. There have been a number of very young people who have 
come into the Plone community lately, some of whom I know will be 
coming. Their salary requirements might be less. :)

TriZPUGers,

See below. Aaron VanDerlip and Jon Baldivieso both got their 
professional Plone careers started with NetCorps. NetCorps good work for 
the work of the good.

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.secoora.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599

On 9/4/2008 1:52 PM, Matthew Latterell wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>  
> Veda Williams gave me your name. I'm the Executive Director of netCorps.
> We're a 12-year old nonprofit organization that works to build the capacity
> of environmental, social justice and community-based nonprofit organizations
> through the appropriate use of information and communication technology,
> training and assistance. For the last four years or so one of our strategies
> has involved developing Plone-based websites for small and medium
> nonprofits. We've worked with groups across the US and especially with a lot
> of NC nonprofits. We have 3 staff working in North Carolina from offices in
> Greensboro and Durham.
>  
> We're seeking to expand our Plone staff with a part or full-time Plone
> developer. Someone with strong CSS skills would be a plus. We provide the
> full cycle of website development from design, product
> creation/customization, site building, training and hosting. We're looking
> for someone who will compliment our small team of staff and consultants.
> While we're looking to hire a staff person we are open to consulting
> arrangements as well. Because we are a nonprofit and work almost exclusively
> with other nonprofits, our salary range is definitely more
> nonprofit-friendly than high tech-friendly.
>  
> Can you help get the word out? We'll be posting something on our website
> (www.netcorps.org) soon but I'm happy to provide information to interested
> folks before we get that posted.
>  
> Thanks!
>  
> --matthew
>  
> ----------------------------------------- 
> Matthew Latterell 
> Executive Director, netCorps 
>  
> 


From cbc at unc.edu  Thu Sep 11 17:04:48 2008
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:04:48 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] [Fwd: [Plone-developers] Register Now for Plone
 Deployment Workshop (Nov	20 - 21, 2008)]
Message-ID: <48C93390.1070003@unc.edu>

FYI...

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.secoora.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	[Plone-developers] Register Now for Plone Deployment Workshop
(Nov 20 - 21, 2008)
Date: 	Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:37:48 -0400
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To: 	Plone Developers <plone-developers at lists.sourceforge.net>, plone
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From cbc at unc.edu  Thu Sep 11 19:16:51 2008
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:16:51 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] Texas Regional Python Unconference 2008 Oct 4-5
Message-ID: <48C95283.2050705@unc.edu>

http://www.scipy.org/TXUncon2008

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.secoora.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599




From stephan_altmueller at unc.edu  Mon Sep 15 17:42:03 2008
From: stephan_altmueller at unc.edu (Stephan Altmueller)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 11:42:03 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] UNC looking for full-time temporary Python/Plone developer
Message-ID: <48CE824B.8060505@unc.edu>

OASIS (http://oasis.unc.edu) at the College of Arts and Science at UNC 
Chapel Hill is looking for a
full-time temporary Python/Plone developer.

Required Skills
    * Strong Python skills
    * Understanding of Plone development, ideally with knowledge about 
custom content type development
    * Working knowledge of HTML, CSS and JavaScript
    * Understanding of test-driven development
    * Strong ability to learn new technologies fast
    * Basic Linux skills

Desired Skills
    * UML driven development with ArchGenXML
    * Knowledge of the Plone deployment stack, especially nginx and varnish
    * Pylons knowledge

 Compensation
    * Awesome work environment on a College campus
    * Great colleagues
    * Free coffee
    * $30/hr

How to apply
    * Send your resume and three references to: jobs at projects.oasis.unc.edu
   

-- 
--
--------------------------------------------------------
Stephan Altmueller
Applications Analyst
OASIS - Office of Arts and Sciences Information Services
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
Phone: 919-962-4205
Email: stephan_altmueller at unc.edu



From cbc at unc.edu  Tue Sep 16 23:13:55 2008
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:13:55 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] PyCon 2009
Message-ID: <E1C73D8C-4B59-4ABF-B9B8-4F52D0906DA7@unc.edu>

http://us.pycon.org/

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.secoora.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599




From cbc at unc.edu  Fri Sep 19 18:32:29 2008
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 12:32:29 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] Fwd: PyCon 2009 (US) - Call for Tutorials
References: <a9f39a410809181056k6426f5bg7eb0b950df0ee008@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7EE79B74-9798-4270-B033-D02316CD8324@unc.edu>

FYI...

Begin forwarded message:

> From: "Greg Lindstrom" <gslindstrom at gmail.com>
> Date: September 18, 2008 1:56:24 PM EDT
> To: python-announce-list at python.org, python-list at python.org, tutor at python.org 
> , pycon-tutorials at python.org
> Subject: PyCon 2009 (US) - Call for Tutorials
> Reply-To: python-list at python.org
>
> Pycon 2009 (US) ? Call for Tutorials
>
> The period for submitting tutorial proposals for Pycon 2009 (US) is  
> now open and will continue through Friday, October 31th. This year  
> features two "pre-conference" days devoted to tutorials on Wednesday  
> March 25 & Thursday March 26 in Chicago. This allows for more  
> classes than ever.
> Tutorials are 3-hours long on a specific topic of your choice. Last  
> year we featured classes on Learning Python, Web Development,  
> Scientific Computing, and many more. Class size varied from 10 to  
> over 60 students. The extended time spent in class allows teachers  
> to cover a lot of material while allowing for interaction with  
> students.
> The full Call for Tutorial Proposals, including submission details,  
> an example proposal as well as a template, is available at <http://us.pycon.org/2009/tutorials/proposals/ 
> >.
>
>
> Tutorial selections will be announced in early December to give you  
> time to prepare your class.
> PyCon will compensate instructors US$1,500 per tutorial.
> If you have any questions, please contact pycon-tutorials at python.org.
>
> Greg Lindstrom
> Tutorial Coordinator, PyCon 2009
> --
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-announce-list
>
>        Support the Python Software Foundation:
>        http://www.python.org/psf/donations.html

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.secoora.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599

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From cbc at unc.edu  Mon Sep 22 02:51:01 2008
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 20:51:01 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] Meeting this week Thur Sept 25 7pm UNC 435 Chapman Hall
Message-ID: <1F1F6A0E-E0CB-4D61-8F16-D144F9C56BF3@unc.edu>

Thursday September 25 in 435 Chapman Hall on the campus of UNC at 7pm  
this week is our best meeting ever:

http://trizpug.org/Members/cbc/sept-08-mtg

There will be *two* nice giveaways. I'm not talking about ill-fitting  
t-shirts I scammed from conference sponsors. These prizes are worth  
your trip. The first is a copy of Noah (Atlanta Python Users Group -  
pyatl) Gift's new and hefty O'Reilly book entitled Python for Unix  
Systems Administrators. The another hefty O'Reilly book entitled  
Collective Intelligence, which is all about how to do cool mash-ups  
with Python (lots of good info on how to optimize your nearest  
neighbor code and the like).

There will also be sodas and snacks.

In addition to the lightning talks you bring, there *might* be a tune  
up for a Python talk at PloneCon.

And there will be a discussion about plans for World Plone Day (Friday  
November 7). Please definitely come if you have an enterprise class  
Plone site (I'm looking at you UNC Healthcare, Duke Clinical Research  
Institute, and Nicholas School) so we can figure out how to let the  
Triangle know what you've accomplished with Plone.

I have a suggestion for getting to 435 Chapman Hall. Chapman Hall is  
not on any street. It is behind Phillips Hall.  Park in Swain lot  
across the street from Phillips Hall on Cameron Drive on the UNC  
Campus. Enter in the front steps of Phillips Hall (where we've had  
many meetings and early years boot camps). You will be on the second  
floor of Phillips. Turn left. Go to end of hall, Turn right. Go to end  
of hall. Turn right. Go halfway down hall. Turn left. Go through sky  
bridge. You will be on the third floor of Chapman Hall. Go to the far  
side of the lobby. Take the elevator on your left up one floor to the  
fourth floor. Get out. Turn left. Go through the double doors into the  
suite. Go through the double doors into the 435 conference room. Pen  
up, turtle off, see you there. If you get lost, call 599-3530.

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.secoora.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599




From bgailer at gmail.com  Wed Sep 24 12:32:35 2008
From: bgailer at gmail.com (bob gailer)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 06:32:35 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] Meeting this week Thur Sept 25 7pm UNC 435 Chapman
 Hall
In-Reply-To: <1F1F6A0E-E0CB-4D61-8F16-D144F9C56BF3@unc.edu>
References: <1F1F6A0E-E0CB-4D61-8F16-D144F9C56BF3@unc.edu>
Message-ID: <48DA1743.2070100@gmail.com>

Chris Calloway wrote:
> Thursday September 25 in 435 Chapman Hall on the campus of UNC at 7pm 
> this week is our best meeting ever: 
I plan to be present and give a lightning talk on the Python Pipelines 
Project. For a preview see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Python_Pipelines

What's the average attendance (so I can bring sufficient handouts)?

-- 
Bob Gailer
Chapel Hill NC 
919-636-4239

When we take the time to be aware of our feelings and 
needs we have more satisfying interatctions with others.

Nonviolent Communication provides tools for this awareness.

As a coach and trainer I can assist you in learning this process.

What is YOUR biggest relationship challenge?


From cbc at unc.edu  Wed Sep 24 15:56:42 2008
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 09:56:42 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] Meeting this week Thur Sept 25 7pm UNC 435 Chapman
 Hall
In-Reply-To: <48DA1743.2070100@gmail.com>
References: <1F1F6A0E-E0CB-4D61-8F16-D144F9C56BF3@unc.edu>
	<48DA1743.2070100@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48DA471A.6000805@unc.edu>

On 9/24/2008 6:32 AM, bob gailer wrote:
> Chris Calloway wrote:
>> Thursday September 25 in 435 Chapman Hall on the campus of UNC at 7pm 
>> this week is our best meeting ever: 
> I plan to be present and give a lightning talk on the Python Pipelines 
> Project. For a preview see:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Python_Pipelines
> What's the average attendance (so I can bring sufficient handouts)?

Average 10. Low 2. High 20.

You might wanna bring a URL to handout material rather than printed 
handouts.

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.secoora.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599




From bgailer at gmail.com  Wed Sep 24 18:45:17 2008
From: bgailer at gmail.com (Bob Gailer)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:45:17 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] Meeting this week Thur Sept 25 7pm UNC 435 Chapman
	Hall
In-Reply-To: <48DA471A.6000805@unc.edu>
References: <1F1F6A0E-E0CB-4D61-8F16-D144F9C56BF3@unc.edu>
	<48DA1743.2070100@gmail.com> <48DA471A.6000805@unc.edu>
Message-ID: <23d7abd0809240945h744b7d32k7e67dd48ce0c6c01@mail.gmail.com>

> You might wanna bring a URL to handout material rather than printed
> handouts.


Unfortunately that is the only media I have. No laptop, no powerpoint
presentation. Just paper.

And the handout does not exist at any web site.


-- 
Bob Gailer
919-636-4239

From cbc at unc.edu  Wed Sep 24 20:31:43 2008
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:31:43 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] More new Python Books
Message-ID: <48DA878F.40704@unc.edu>

Some of you know Tarek through his Plone work at Igeniweb:

https://www.packtpub.com/expert-python-programming/book

This is pretty new, also:

https://www.packtpub.com/zenoss-core-network-and-system-monitoring/book

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.secoora.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599




From csl at med.unc.edu  Wed Sep 24 20:36:18 2008
From: csl at med.unc.edu (Carol Ludwig)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:36:18 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] Meeting this week Thur Sept 25 7pm UNC 435 Chapman
 Hall
In-Reply-To: <23d7abd0809240945h744b7d32k7e67dd48ce0c6c01@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1F1F6A0E-E0CB-4D61-8F16-D144F9C56BF3@unc.edu>
	<48DA1743.2070100@gmail.com> <48DA471A.6000805@unc.edu>
	<23d7abd0809240945h744b7d32k7e67dd48ce0c6c01@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f5af929676fff.48da5062@med.unc.edu>

I plan to come, if you're counting heads.

----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Gailer <bgailer at gmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 12:47
Subject: Re: [TriZPUG] Meeting this week Thur Sept 25 7pm UNC 435 Chapman	Hall
To: cbc at unc.edu, "Triangle (North Carolina) Zope and Python Users Group" <trizpug at python.org>

> > You might wanna bring a URL to handout material rather than printed
> > handouts.
> 
> 
> Unfortunately that is the only media I have. No laptop, no powerpoint
> presentation. Just paper.
> 
> And the handout does not exist at any web site.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Bob Gailer
> 919-636-4239
> _______________________________________________
> TriZPUG mailing list
> TriZPUG at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug
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From cbc at unc.edu  Wed Sep 24 20:52:48 2008
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:52:48 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] pyinstall
Message-ID: <48DA8C80.4010301@unc.edu>

Ian Bicking (author of paste, virtualenv, and many others) released 
pyinstall today. Many of you met Ian at the BBQ Sprint:

http://pypi.python.org/pypi/pyinstall

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.secoora.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599




From cbc at unc.edu  Thu Sep 25 18:33:23 2008
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:33:23 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] Meeting this week Thur Sept 25 7pm UNC 435 Chapman
 Hall
In-Reply-To: <1F1F6A0E-E0CB-4D61-8F16-D144F9C56BF3@unc.edu>
References: <1F1F6A0E-E0CB-4D61-8F16-D144F9C56BF3@unc.edu>
Message-ID: <48DBBD53.6020101@unc.edu>

Don't forget. Meeting today!

On 9/21/2008 8:51 PM, Chris Calloway wrote:
> Thursday September 25 in 435 Chapman Hall on the campus of UNC at 7pm 
> this week is our best meeting ever:
> 
> http://trizpug.org/Members/cbc/sept-08-mtg
> 
> There will be *two* nice giveaways. I'm not talking about ill-fitting 
> t-shirts I scammed from conference sponsors. These prizes are worth your 
> trip. The first is a copy of Noah (Atlanta Python Users Group - pyatl) 
> Gift's new and hefty O'Reilly book entitled Python for Unix Systems 
> Administrators. The another hefty O'Reilly book entitled Collective 
> Intelligence, which is all about how to do cool mash-ups with Python 
> (lots of good info on how to optimize your nearest neighbor code and the 
> like).
> 
> There will also be sodas and snacks.
> 
> In addition to the lightning talks you bring, there *might* be a tune up 
> for a Python talk at PloneCon.
> 
> And there will be a discussion about plans for World Plone Day (Friday 
> November 7). Please definitely come if you have an enterprise class 
> Plone site (I'm looking at you UNC Healthcare, Duke Clinical Research 
> Institute, and Nicholas School) so we can figure out how to let the 
> Triangle know what you've accomplished with Plone.
> 
> I have a suggestion for getting to 435 Chapman Hall. Chapman Hall is not 
> on any street. It is behind Phillips Hall.  Park in Swain lot across the 
> street from Phillips Hall on Cameron Drive on the UNC Campus. Enter in 
> the front steps of Phillips Hall (where we've had many meetings and 
> early years boot camps). You will be on the second floor of Phillips. 
> Turn left. Go to end of hall, Turn right. Go to end of hall. Turn right. 
> Go halfway down hall. Turn left. Go through sky bridge. You will be on 
> the third floor of Chapman Hall. Go to the far side of the lobby. Take 
> the elevator on your left up one floor to the fourth floor. Get out. 
> Turn left. Go through the double doors into the suite. Go through the 
> double doors into the 435 conference room. Pen up, turtle off, see you 
> there. If you get lost, call 599-3530.
> 

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.secoora.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599




From cbc at unc.edu  Thu Sep 25 18:36:49 2008
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:36:49 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] Writing a Package in Python
Message-ID: <48DBBE21.1040407@unc.edu>

The day before Tarek's book was published, he put out this article. I 
didn't want it to get lost in the shuffle because it looks good:

http://www.packtpub.com/article/writing-a-package-in-python

It kind of dovetails with the distutils and eggs talks I gave still 
available here:

http://trizpug.org/Members/cbc

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.secoora.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599




From mrevoir at gmail.com  Fri Sep 26 03:58:47 2008
From: mrevoir at gmail.com (Mike Revoir)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 21:58:47 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] Meeting this week Thur Sept 25 7pm UNC 435 Chapman
	Hall
In-Reply-To: <1F1F6A0E-E0CB-4D61-8F16-D144F9C56BF3@unc.edu>
References: <1F1F6A0E-E0CB-4D61-8F16-D144F9C56BF3@unc.edu>
Message-ID: <f4cf1c730809251858j17759baep6fb79643e32ba224@mail.gmail.com>

Hey everyone, sorry that I missed tonight's meeting -- I really did want to
be there especially after being called out by Chris in his e-mail ;)

 After driving by Swain lot and checking the hand full of other places that
I know to park and then talking to the nice lady at the lot and searching
unsuccessfully for Nash Hall I regrettably returned home. You boys in pale
blue must really have it out for us Dukies :) It was only when I got on 540
that I thought that I should have parked at the hospital. I'll remember that
for next time.

Have a good night,

Mike

On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 8:51 PM, Chris Calloway <cbc at unc.edu> wrote:

> Thursday September 25 in 435 Chapman Hall on the campus of UNC at 7pm this
> week is our best meeting ever:
>
> http://trizpug.org/Members/cbc/sept-08-mtg
>
> There will be *two* nice giveaways. I'm not talking about ill-fitting
> t-shirts I scammed from conference sponsors. These prizes are worth your
> trip. The first is a copy of Noah (Atlanta Python Users Group - pyatl)
> Gift's new and hefty O'Reilly book entitled Python for Unix Systems
> Administrators. The another hefty O'Reilly book entitled Collective
> Intelligence, which is all about how to do cool mash-ups with Python (lots
> of good info on how to optimize your nearest neighbor code and the like).
>
> There will also be sodas and snacks.
>
> In addition to the lightning talks you bring, there *might* be a tune up
> for a Python talk at PloneCon.
>
> And there will be a discussion about plans for World Plone Day (Friday
> November 7). Please definitely come if you have an enterprise class Plone
> site (I'm looking at you UNC Healthcare, Duke Clinical Research Institute,
> and Nicholas School) so we can figure out how to let the Triangle know what
> you've accomplished with Plone.
>
> I have a suggestion for getting to 435 Chapman Hall. Chapman Hall is not on
> any street. It is behind Phillips Hall.  Park in Swain lot across the street
> from Phillips Hall on Cameron Drive on the UNC Campus. Enter in the front
> steps of Phillips Hall (where we've had many meetings and early years boot
> camps). You will be on the second floor of Phillips. Turn left. Go to end of
> hall, Turn right. Go to end of hall. Turn right. Go halfway down hall. Turn
> left. Go through sky bridge. You will be on the third floor of Chapman Hall.
> Go to the far side of the lobby. Take the elevator on your left up one floor
> to the fourth floor. Get out. Turn left. Go through the double doors into
> the suite. Go through the double doors into the 435 conference room. Pen up,
> turtle off, see you there. If you get lost, call 599-3530.
>
> --
> Sincerely,
>
> Chris Calloway
> http://www.secoora.org
> office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
> mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> TriZPUG mailing list
> TriZPUG at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/trizpug
> http://trizpug.org is the Triangle Zope and Python Users Group
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From cbc at unc.edu  Fri Sep 26 17:38:51 2008
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 11:38:51 -0400
Subject: [TriZPUG] Meeting this week Thur Sept 25 7pm UNC 435 Chapman
 Hall
In-Reply-To: <f4cf1c730809251858j17759baep6fb79643e32ba224@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1F1F6A0E-E0CB-4D61-8F16-D144F9C56BF3@unc.edu>
	<f4cf1c730809251858j17759baep6fb79643e32ba224@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48DD020B.6090301@unc.edu>

On 9/25/2008 9:58 PM, Mike Revoir wrote:
> Hey everyone, sorry that I missed tonight's meeting -- I really did want to
> be there especially after being called out by Chris in his e-mail ;)
> 
>  After driving by Swain lot and checking the hand full of other places that
> I know to park and then talking to the nice lady at the lot and searching
> unsuccessfully for Nash Hall I regrettably returned home. You boys in pale
> blue must really have it out for us Dukies :) It was only when I got on 540
> that I thought that I should have parked at the hospital. I'll remember that
> for next time.

Nash Hall? I don't even know where that is.

I'm sorry you came all the way out here without finding parking. 
Alternate parking would have to be off campus, over in the Municipal lot 
or garage on Rosemary Street, or the Back of America deck on Rosemary 
Street, about a three block walk.

If it's any consolation, back when TriZPUG met in Perkins Library for 
about two meetings, I was supposed to speak at one of those meetings. 
The parking garage beside the Bryan Center was being used for some 
special event in Page Auditorium, and they wanted five dollars cash to 
enter the garage, instead of the normal pay by credit card on the way 
out. I had to leave, go find an ATM, and come back. By the time I got to 
the meeting, the hosts had left and Jim Allman was hanging around 
looking for who ever else might show up. We went to the Armadillo Grill 
in the Bryan Center and talked to two hours about everything, which 
eventually led to us creating our own Plone installer and me buying my 
first MacBook.

It's much nicer meeting at Duke now that we can park in the North 
Pavillion deck. Maybe at UNC we should start meeting somewhere over by 
the hospital decks. Rob? :)

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.secoora.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 599-3530
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599