From FDimauro at unch.unc.edu  Thu Jun 14 17:23:24 2007
From: FDimauro at unch.unc.edu (Dimauro, Frank)
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 11:23:24 -0400
Subject: [triangle-zpug] here/browserDefault error
In-Reply-To: <mailman.4209.1175264477.16467.triangle-zpug@starship.python.net>
References: <mailman.4209.1175264477.16467.triangle-zpug@starship.python.net>
Message-ID: <C1749BE8B27F1C4CAB39ABF6D7B15949681AF9@msx5.unch.unc.edu>

Anybody out there ever experienced this error?

We recently upgraded our  staging server to Plone 2.5.1 and we are
getting an error when we navigate to a 'Webfolder' object (customized
folder object) which does not contain a default object named
'index_html'. Webfolders with default named objects are fine. 
error AttributeError:Failed to get a default page or view_action for
<bound method Webfolder.absolute_url of <Webfolder at
/unch/site/newsroom/news/2004>>


I noticed  something in the traceback on the 'folder_contents.pt' that
is now causing this to fail. Something about 'here/browserDefault'...

file:UNCHSkins/skins/unch_override/folder_contents.pt
   - Line 170, Column 19
   - Expression: standard:'here/browserDefault'\

Any clues appreciated...

Frank DiMauro
Information Services Division
UNC Health Care System
321 Meadowmont Village Circle, 2nd Floor 
Chapel Hill, NC 27517 
919-966-7988 (Tel) 
919-966-2110 (Fax)





From jim at ibang.com  Thu Jun 14 17:44:01 2007
From: jim at ibang.com (Jim Allman)
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 11:44:01 -0400
Subject: [triangle-zpug] here/browserDefault error
In-Reply-To: <C1749BE8B27F1C4CAB39ABF6D7B15949681AF9@msx5.unch.unc.edu>
References: <mailman.4209.1175264477.16467.triangle-zpug@starship.python.net>
	<C1749BE8B27F1C4CAB39ABF6D7B15949681AF9@msx5.unch.unc.edu>
Message-ID: <5E2AFB46-425B-4A29-8CA1-5F3E6FCC3C78@ibang.com>

On Jun 14, 2007, at 11:23 AM, Dimauro, Frank wrote:
> I noticed  something in the traceback on the 'folder_contents.pt' that
> is now causing this to fail. Something about 'here/browserDefault'...

Hm, looks like it's wanting to call this bit of Plone skin:
	CMFPlone/skins/plone_scripts/browserDefault.py
First thing, make sure this is available in your skins. (Try browsing  
to '<site_URL>/browserDefault', watch for 404.)

Anyway, if it's there, I think it simply calls
	context.plone_utils.browserDefault(context)

...which looks like kind of a hairball:
	http://api.plone.org/Plone/2.1.1/public/CMFPlone.PloneTool.PloneTool- 
class.html

Search this page for 'browserDefault'; there's a decent explanation  
here. Hopefully it's simpler, like the missing skin script.

Hope this helps,

   =jimA=

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Jim Allman
Interrobang Digital Media
http://www.ibang.com/
(919) 649-5760




From FDimauro at unch.unc.edu  Mon Jun 18 16:27:50 2007
From: FDimauro at unch.unc.edu (Dimauro, Frank)
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 10:27:50 -0400
Subject: [triangle-zpug] browserDefault error
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1181901602.25778.triangle-zpug@starship.python.net>
References: <mailman.3.1181901602.25778.triangle-zpug@starship.python.net>
Message-ID: <C1749BE8B27F1C4CAB39ABF6D7B15949CC88EE@msx5.unch.unc.edu>

Walt went ahead and ran a script that inserts a default file in every
webfolder w/o a <index_html> file. That seems to take care of the
attribute error we kept getting with such webfolders since the upgrade
to plone 2.5.2...still not sure why it kept doing this so this is
essentially a hack. Jim, thanks for your advice. Always appreciate
counsel.

Frank DiMauro


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Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 11:44:01 -0400
From: Jim Allman <jim at ibang.com>
Subject: Re: [triangle-zpug] here/browserDefault error
To: "Mailing list for North Carolina \(Research Triangle area\)
	Zope/Python	User Group" <triangle-zpug at starship.python.net>
Cc: "Dimauro, Frank" <FDimauro at unch.unc.edu>
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed

On Jun 14, 2007, at 11:23 AM, Dimauro, Frank wrote:
> I noticed  something in the traceback on the 'folder_contents.pt' that
> is now causing this to fail. Something about 'here/browserDefault'...

Hm, looks like it's wanting to call this bit of Plone skin:
	CMFPlone/skins/plone_scripts/browserDefault.py
First thing, make sure this is available in your skins. (Try browsing  
to '<site_URL>/browserDefault', watch for 404.)

Anyway, if it's there, I think it simply calls
	context.plone_utils.browserDefault(context)

...which looks like kind of a hairball:
	
http://api.plone.org/Plone/2.1.1/public/CMFPlone.PloneTool.PloneTool- 
class.html

Search this page for 'browserDefault'; there's a decent explanation  
here. Hopefully it's simpler, like the missing skin script.

Hope this helps,

   =jimA=

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Jim Allman
Interrobang Digital Media
http://www.ibang.com/
(919) 649-5760




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From fwierzbicki at gmail.com  Fri Jun 22 20:55:12 2007
From: fwierzbicki at gmail.com (Frank Wierzbicki)
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 14:55:12 -0400
Subject: [triangle-zpug] Jython talk?
Message-ID: <4dab5f760706221155h7064ace3h6af089465e317092@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I recently joined this list and I thought I'd introduce myself.  My
name is Frank Wierzbicki, and I am the current lead maintainer of
Jython (http://www.jython.org) and was wondering if there is enough
local interest for me to speak on Jython for trizpug?  Jython is
nearing a new release (it brings it up to compatibility with Python
2.2 plus some 2.3 features -- I know, I know -- we have some catching
up to do....) I could probably even get Red Hat to be the host
location with enough advanced warning, since I work there.  I'd love
to see if I can meet more Jython users in person.  There must be some
here in RTP, especially IBMers since Websphere has gone with Jython
over Jacl as its preferred scripting language.

Regards,

-Frank



From david at handysoftware.com  Sat Jun 23 15:12:10 2007
From: david at handysoftware.com (David Handy)
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 09:12:10 -0400
Subject: [triangle-zpug] Jython talk?
In-Reply-To: <4dab5f760706221155h7064ace3h6af089465e317092@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4dab5f760706221155h7064ace3h6af089465e317092@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20070623131210.GA16189@arno2>

On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 02:55:12PM -0400, Frank Wierzbicki wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I recently joined this list and I thought I'd introduce myself.  My
> name is Frank Wierzbicki, and I am the current lead maintainer of
> Jython (http://www.jython.org) and was wondering if there is enough
> local interest for me to speak on Jython for trizpug?

I am interested in a Jython talk, and am willing to contribute my own
experiences using Jython at SAS. Also, WebSphere configration using Jython
is in my near future.

I haven't been able to attend any TriZPUG meetings for a while, but I am
able to attend the one being held the 4th Tuesday of this month -- provided
we are actually having a meeting this month! I haven't seen anything on the
TriZPUG website about a June meeting.

David H
 
-- 
David Handy
Computer Programming is Fun!
Beginning Computer Programming with Python
http://www.handysoftware.com/cpif/



From adam at hupp.org  Sun Jun 24 00:33:27 2007
From: adam at hupp.org (Adam Hupp)
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 17:33:27 -0500
Subject: [triangle-zpug] Jython talk?
In-Reply-To: <4dab5f760706221155h7064ace3h6af089465e317092@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4dab5f760706221155h7064ace3h6af089465e317092@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20070623223326.GC31619@mouth.upl.cs.wisc.edu>

On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 02:55:12PM -0400, Frank Wierzbicki wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I recently joined this list and I thought I'd introduce myself.  My
> name is Frank Wierzbicki, and I am the current lead maintainer of
> Jython (http://www.jython.org) and was wondering if there is enough
> local interest for me to speak on Jython for trizpug?  

I would definitely be interested in this talk.  My employer uses
Jython in several places.  Unfortunately I won't be back in the area
until late August.

-Adam



From fwierzbicki at gmail.com  Sun Jun 24 04:03:41 2007
From: fwierzbicki at gmail.com (Frank Wierzbicki)
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 22:03:41 -0400
Subject: [triangle-zpug] Jython talk?
In-Reply-To: <20070623131210.GA16189@arno2>
References: <4dab5f760706221155h7064ace3h6af089465e317092@mail.gmail.com>
	<20070623131210.GA16189@arno2>
Message-ID: <4dab5f760706231903y39230f20p9f9d964e95705458@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/23/07, David Handy <david at handysoftware.com> wrote:
> I haven't been able to attend any TriZPUG meetings for a while, but I am
> able to attend the one being held the 4th Tuesday of this month -- provided
> we are actually having a meeting this month! I haven't seen anything on the
> TriZPUG website about a June meeting.
This month is too soon for me to be prepared for a talk...  August
would give me plenty of time.  Is there enough interest for an August
presentation?

-Frank



From cbc at unc.edu  Mon Jun 25 17:34:29 2007
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 11:34:29 -0400
Subject: [triangle-zpug] Meeting tomorrow (was Re:  Jython talk?)
In-Reply-To: <20070623131210.GA16189@arno2>
References: <4dab5f760706221155h7064ace3h6af089465e317092@mail.gmail.com>
	<20070623131210.GA16189@arno2>
Message-ID: <467FE085.1050908@unc.edu>

David Handy wrote:
> I haven't been able to attend any TriZPUG meetings for a while, but I am
> able to attend the one being held the 4th Tuesday of this month -- provided
> we are actually having a meeting this month! I haven't seen anything on the
> TriZPUG website about a June meeting.

It's Capstrat's turn. I just spoke with Paul. He was away on a family 
emergency last week and it snuck up on him. I was away on vacation, so I 
wasn't paying attention, either. :) Anyway, here's the deal:

We will meet at Capstrat tomorrow (Tuesday June 25) at 7pm. The topics 
are: YOU! Be prepared to stand up and talk for five minutes on what you 
learned about Python in the last month or what you've been working on 
with Python in the last month. Like, while I was on vacation last week, 
I installed Plone 3 beta 3 on my laptop just for giggles. I may show 
that. I think Paul will probably have something to say about whatever 
Django he's been working on.

There will also be a really, really nice Python related door prize. You 
want to show up just in case you might win this really, really nice 
thing. All I will tell you about it is that way back in TriZPUG's deep 
past, there was a four hour long TriZPUG presentation about it once. I 
believe that meeting holds the record for longest TriZPUG presentation. 
And we still went out to a bar afterwards. :)

The website will be updated with a meeting announcement today. We 
apologize for the slackitude. It wasn't intentional and we really did 
plan for it to work differently. We actually have about a dozen people 
who could handle this if they wish.

Frank W, thanks for joining this list and having interest in presenting 
Jython to us. I enjoyed your Jython talk at PyCon.

If you want to give a talk for any particular meeting, all you have to 
do is declare it on this email list. You don't need to take a poll about 
who would be interested. We practice the shotgun rules for meetings. If 
you volunteer to give a talk at a particular time, then who is anybody 
else to say you should or shouldn't? :)

So since you've chosen August, you're "it" for August. Also, we 
encourage as many people to give talks at meeting as who want to. The 
more, the merrier. We encourage lots of short talks. Anyone can just 
stand up at a meeting and present whatever they want for a few minutes. 
But if there are few or no lightning talks, that gives you the 
opportunity to talk at length about Jython. That's how it usually works 
out. There's usually one longer prepared talk and possibly a couple of 
lightning talks.

We meet at UNC this August (and Duke in July). We have a three month 
rotating schedule of Raleigh (at Capstrat)/Chapel Hill (at UNC)/Durham 
(at Duke). This helps spread the travel out among our widely dispersed 
participants. Well, for all except Mark Biggers who, coming from 
Yadkinville every month, wins the Most Miles Logged On Behalf Of TriZPUG 
Award. We have one person who occasionally comes from South Carolina to 
meetings.

As the August host, I'll be glad to post a meeting announcement on the 
website about your Jython talk. I like it when we can get meeting 
announcements posted well in advance. :)

We definitely have rooms scheduled for July (Duke), August (UNC), 
October (Duke) and November (UNC). Frank, if you'd like to contact Paul 
Smith at Capstrat in Raleigh, maybe you guys could work out something 
concerning sharing the hosting of the meetings during the months when we 
meet in Raleigh (June and September for the rest of this year). There is 
also a guy at NC State whose name escapes me, but who has at least 
expressed interest in helping bring Raleigh hosting back to campus 
(TriZPUG started on the NCSU campus). I believe he's in the Physics 
department. Are you reading this my long lost IRC friend? Also, the 
current lead maintainer of Vpython is on faculty at NCSU in the 
Department of Physics.

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.seacoos.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 962-4323
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599






From cbc at unc.edu  Mon Jun 25 17:38:36 2007
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 11:38:36 -0400
Subject: [triangle-zpug] Geoff Davis update
Message-ID: <467FE17C.4070505@unc.edu>

Here's something of interest to many of you about one of TriZPUG's 
co-founders:

http://limi.net/articles/welcome-to-google-geoff-davis

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.seacoos.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 962-4323
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599






From cbc at unc.edu  Mon Jun 25 18:01:03 2007
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 12:01:03 -0400
Subject: [triangle-zpug] Meeting tomorrow (was Re:  Jython talk?)
In-Reply-To: <467FE085.1050908@unc.edu>
References: <4dab5f760706221155h7064ace3h6af089465e317092@mail.gmail.com>	<20070623131210.GA16189@arno2>
	<467FE085.1050908@unc.edu>
Message-ID: <467FE6BF.4080805@unc.edu>

Chris Calloway wrote:
> The website will be updated with a meeting announcement today.

Done:

http://trizpug.org/
http://trizpug.org/meetings/
http://trizpug.org/Members/psmith/june-07-mtg/
http://trizpug.org/Members/psmith/capstrat-directions/

Remember, there will be a really, really nice Python related door prize. :)

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.seacoos.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 962-4323
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599






From fwierzbicki at gmail.com  Mon Jun 25 18:03:00 2007
From: fwierzbicki at gmail.com (Frank Wierzbicki)
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 12:03:00 -0400
Subject: [triangle-zpug] Meeting tomorrow (was Re: Jython talk?)
In-Reply-To: <467FE085.1050908@unc.edu>
References: <4dab5f760706221155h7064ace3h6af089465e317092@mail.gmail.com>
	<20070623131210.GA16189@arno2> <467FE085.1050908@unc.edu>
Message-ID: <4dab5f760706250903r6fd9529q92135bd654fac962@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/25/07, Chris Calloway <cbc at unc.edu> wrote:
> Frank W, thanks for joining this list and having interest in presenting
> Jython to us. I enjoyed your Jython talk at PyCon.
Thanks for the kindness, but I promise to do better... I hadn't given
a talk of that sort since I left science in the 90's and I
overestimated the ease of putting it together.  I learned at least one
lesson: less talk more demo.

> If you want to give a talk for any particular meeting, all you have to
> do is declare it on this email list. You don't need to take a poll about
> who would be interested. We practice the shotgun rules for meetings. If
> you volunteer to give a talk at a particular time, then who is anybody
> else to say you should or shouldn't? :)
cool.

> So since you've chosen August, you're "it" for August.
Fair enough.  Given my experience at pycon, it is good that I don't
need to give a length :)

> This helps spread the travel out among our widely dispersed
> participants. Well, for all except Mark Biggers who, coming from
> Yadkinville every month, wins the Most Miles Logged On Behalf Of TriZPUG
> Award.
Ouch.

> We have one person who occasionally comes from South Carolina to
> meetings.
Double ouch.

> As the August host, I'll be glad to post a meeting announcement on the
> website about your Jython talk. I like it when we can get meeting
> announcements posted well in advance. :)
Great!  Please do.

> We definitely have rooms scheduled for July (Duke), August (UNC),
> October (Duke) and November (UNC). Frank, if you'd like to contact Paul
> Smith at Capstrat in Raleigh, maybe you guys could work out something
> concerning sharing the hosting of the meetings during the months when we
> meet in Raleigh (June and September for the rest of this year).
Okay I'll check with Red Hat first (though since we hosted a Ruby
thing last week, I bet it isn't a problem).

-Frank



From biggers at utsl.com  Mon Jun 25 18:13:43 2007
From: biggers at utsl.com (Mark R. Biggers)
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 12:13:43 -0400
Subject: [triangle-zpug]  Jython talk?
In-Reply-To: <4dab5f760706221155h7064ace3h6af089465e317092@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4dab5f760706221155h7064ace3h6af089465e317092@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <18047.59831.203185.419317@dexter.saiph.com>

Hi Frank, your offer sounds great.

Frank Wierzbicki writes:
 > Hi all,
 > 
 > I recently joined this list and I thought I'd introduce myself.  My
 > name is Frank Wierzbicki, and I am the current lead maintainer of
 > Jython (http://www.jython.org) and was wondering if there is enough
 > local interest for me to speak on Jython for trizpug?  Jython is

For this Python-oriented (strong interest Plone, Zope, Django, ...)
group, we might like to know about:

  () if WSGI can (now) be made to work on Jython.  Turbogears or
     Pylons running on Jython could be really useful...

  () the progress of "standard" Py lib modules working on Jython

  () maybe a (brief) compare/contrast to PyPy, in terms of ongoing
     progress

  () other "enterprise" industry interest in Jython, beyond a IBM
     WebSphere app-deployment language (yow!)

  () maybe a (brief) compare/contrast to all the "excitement" and Sun
     involvement with JRuby (sigh...)

Assume that folks  (except for Java developers) don't  know much about
WebSphere or JACL  or any such Java tech.   Us former WebSphere admins
want to forget their past, anyways... ;)

This is exciting, looking forward to it!

thank you,
----mark



From fwierzbicki at gmail.com  Mon Jun 25 19:07:26 2007
From: fwierzbicki at gmail.com (Frank Wierzbicki)
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 13:07:26 -0400
Subject: [triangle-zpug] Jython talk?
In-Reply-To: <18047.59831.203185.419317@dexter.saiph.com>
References: <4dab5f760706221155h7064ace3h6af089465e317092@mail.gmail.com>
	<18047.59831.203185.419317@dexter.saiph.com>
Message-ID: <4dab5f760706251007p258b8766g9527fb7acbb3f4fd@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/25/07, Mark R. Biggers <biggers at utsl.com> wrote:
> Hi Frank, your offer sounds great.

>   () if WSGI can (now) be made to work on Jython.  Turbogears or
>      Pylons running on Jython could be really useful...
There is a wsgi implementation for Jython: http://www.xhaus.com/modjy/
And I recently gave the implementer (Alan Kennedy) commit privileges
on Jython to get his socket work checked in (a prerequisite but not
enough to get Twisted working with Jython).  A Pylons guy has shown
some interest in Jython and I am trying to get SQLAlchemy to work with
the 2.3 alpha (a prereq for the next version of Turbogears).

>   () the progress of "standard" Py lib modules working on Jython
>
>   () maybe a (brief) compare/contrast to PyPy, in terms of ongoing
>      progress
>
>   () other "enterprise" industry interest in Jython, beyond a IBM
>      WebSphere app-deployment language (yow!)
I'll try to work in the above three.

>   () maybe a (brief) compare/contrast to all the "excitement" and Sun
>      involvement with JRuby (sigh...)
No need to be too disheartened here.  Charles Nutter (one of the
principle JRuby guys hired by Sun) Is very very interested in
extending the JVM (Java Virtual Machine) for *all* dynamic languages,
not just JRuby.  He is also very interested in forming a "core"
dynamic language library that all dynlangs can use on the JVM.  Also I
am in contact with some other Sun folks who are quite interested in
Jython if it can be shown to live ;)

Besides, Ruby and Python share much more in common than you might
think.  I follow both in my copious spare time, and Ruby and Python
are most definitely paying attention to one another and becoming more
similar over time (Guido has said that generators where inspired by
Ruby blocks, and Matz of Ruby has talked recently of *removing*
features from Ruby 2.0 and I hear Rubyists talking about "idiom"s all
the time -- don't know if there is a clear connection to the same
tendencies in Python-land since I don't follow Ruby as closely).

Clearly there are fundamental differences between the two that can
never come together, but really the similarities dominate (IMO).

PHP and Java for web development are the things I want to avoid (just
personal preference, no offense intended for folks who like doing web
development in Java or PHP).

> Assume that folks  (except for Java developers) don't  know much about
> WebSphere or JACL  or any such Java tech.   Us former WebSphere admins
> want to forget their past, anyways... ;)
:) -- I do know to avoid assuming much Java knowledge -- though it can
be hard to keep in mind, thanks.

> This is exciting, looking forward to it!
Looks like I'm scheduled for August!

-Frank



From cbc at unc.edu  Mon Jun 25 19:35:03 2007
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 13:35:03 -0400
Subject: [triangle-zpug] Plone Boot Camps
Message-ID: <467FFCC7.1010701@unc.edu>

Hey, I hope you all know about the three Plone Boot Camps we are hosting 
between July 30 and August 10:

http://trizpug.org
http://plonebootcamps.com/

There are currently 37 people signed up for the regular camp and 26 for 
the advanced camp. I see only a few of these sign-ups are local to the 
Triangle. So please go ahead and enroll now.

But what I really want to bring to your attention is the *one day 
Introduction to Plone*:

http://plonebootcamps.com/courses/nc-intro

I know many of you would like to get Plone into your department or 
business. But you face difficulty in getting sufficient attention from 
your management about just what Plone is and why you should be using it. 
Or your five minute explanations create more questions than answers. 
Well, this one day introduction is what you are looking for. It's only 
$50 and it will take a totally non-technical decision maker and make the 
case for Plone for you *and* will train content creators for your Plone 
sites. Even if you already have Plone in your shop, you should get your 
boss and all the people in your organization whom you want creating 
content (office managers, administrative assistants, etc.) and get them 
into this one day course. Even though this course is only one day, and 
even though it's at the tail end of two weeks of training, and even 
though it's for non-technical people, this is probably the single most 
important day of the whole two weeks of Triangle Plone Boot Camps for 
this year. This is the *get Plone accepted in your enterprise* day. 
Getting non-technical people using Plone is what Plone is all about. As 
if you didn't have enough reason already:

http://blogs.onenw.org/jon/archives/2007/06/16/plone-blows-away-commercial-and-open-source-competition-in-cmswatch-review/

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.seacoos.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 962-4323
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599






From FDimauro at unch.unc.edu  Mon Jun 25 19:43:35 2007
From: FDimauro at unch.unc.edu (Dimauro, Frank)
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 13:43:35 -0400
Subject: [triangle-zpug] Web Designing Architect | 6 months | Edison,NJ
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From jesse.lovelace at gmail.com  Tue Jun 26 05:33:40 2007
From: jesse.lovelace at gmail.com (Jesse Lovelace)
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 23:33:40 -0400
Subject: [triangle-zpug] Python (web) Developer Position
Message-ID: <7ad1673e0706252033p54cba93fu9cbf1b6df5416177@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I'm the technical lead at a local startup on Centennial Campus called
Key Ingredient. We are looking for some python hackers to join our
team on a full-time or part-time basis (depending on your
availability).  Our project is a web 2.0ish site with some pretty
sweet features (we are using Django, MySQL, Sphinx, and Lightty).
Knowledge of SQL and Django are a plus.

For more info email me a jesse (at) keyingredient.com

Thanks,

jesse



From biggers at utsl.com  Wed Jun 27 03:37:32 2007
From: biggers at utsl.com (Mark R. Biggers)
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 21:37:32 -0400
Subject: [triangle-zpug] the incognito TriLUG Sugar Hackfest...
Message-ID: <18049.48988.826045.249554@dexter.saiph.com>

...formerly unknown to TriZPUG'ers, here it is.  You would think they
might want to work with Python folks...

  http://www.trilug.org/wiki/Sugar_Hackfest_2007

Have fun,
----mark



From cbc at unc.edu  Wed Jun 27 23:35:07 2007
From: cbc at unc.edu (Chris Calloway)
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:35:07 -0400
Subject: [triangle-zpug] Last night's meeting recap for new Python User
	Group Blog
Message-ID: <4682D80B.5030008@unc.edu>

We should have show and tell more often. There was more presented last 
night than at any meeting where we've had scheduled presentations.

As mentioned last night, I'm participating on our behalf in a new Python 
User Groups Blog set up by Dallas PyCon organizer Jeff Rush:

http://python-groups.blogspot.com

I you shared last night, I would appreciate your placing a paragraph on 
this list that could be incorporated into a blog post.

That would be virtal python, searchable django objects, using django to 
bake easily changeable static content, repository patterns, etc..

Paul, thanks for the cool place to meet and the wireless.

-- 
Sincerely,

Chris Calloway
http://www.seacoos.org
office: 332 Chapman Hall   phone: (919) 962-4323
mail: Campus Box #3300, UNC-CH, Chapel Hill, NC 27599






From david at handysoftware.com  Wed Jun 27 23:53:41 2007
From: david at handysoftware.com (David Handy)
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:53:41 -0400
Subject: [triangle-zpug] Last night's meeting recap for new Python User
	Group Blog
In-Reply-To: <4682D80B.5030008@unc.edu>
References: <4682D80B.5030008@unc.edu>
Message-ID: <20070627215341.GA30954@arno2>

On Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 05:35:07PM -0400, Chris Calloway wrote:
> We should have show and tell more often. There was more presented last 
> night than at any meeting where we've had scheduled presentations.

I'm so bummed I couldn't make it. I had a minor family medical emergency
come up, and was hanging out at the pharmacy while you all were
pythoneering...

> As mentioned last night, I'm participating on our behalf in a new Python 
> User Groups Blog set up by Dallas PyCon organizer Jeff Rush:
> 
> http://python-groups.blogspot.com

Python is getting cooler and cooler. It wasn't all that long ago that almost
no one I talked with, software developers included, had heard of it...

David H

-- 
David Handy
Computer Programming is Fun!
Beginning Computer Programming with Python
http://www.handysoftware.com/cpif/



From fwierzbicki at gmail.com  Thu Jun 28 14:55:51 2007
From: fwierzbicki at gmail.com (Frank Wierzbicki)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 08:55:51 -0400
Subject: [triangle-zpug] Last night's meeting recap for new Python User
	Group Blog
In-Reply-To: <20070627215341.GA30954@arno2>
References: <4682D80B.5030008@unc.edu> <20070627215341.GA30954@arno2>
Message-ID: <4dab5f760706280555u692a5b1au94d9fb4006bbe4af@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/27/07, David Handy <david at handysoftware.com> wrote:
> Python is getting cooler and cooler. It wasn't all that long ago that almost
> no one I talked with, software developers included, had heard of it...
I've had the same experience.  I've been the lone Python guy at so
many companies -- but now I think Python is really hitting mainstream
acceptance.  I think there are a bunch of high visibility success
stories that are really getting developer attention lately.  Google's
vocal use and support, the use of Python in OLPC and Ubuntu, the fact
that UTube is written in Python (take that scalability doubters!).

-Frank



From brad.crittenden at gmail.com  Thu Jun 28 15:12:56 2007
From: brad.crittenden at gmail.com (Bradley A. Crittenden)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 09:12:56 -0400
Subject: [triangle-zpug] Last night's meeting recap for new Python User
	Group Blog
In-Reply-To: <4dab5f760706280555u692a5b1au94d9fb4006bbe4af@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4682D80B.5030008@unc.edu> <20070627215341.GA30954@arno2>
	<4dab5f760706280555u692a5b1au94d9fb4006bbe4af@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5578F65C-735F-4688-98CF-E9A0E3F6A9C1@gmail.com>


On Jun 28, 2007, at 08:55 AM, Frank Wierzbicki wrote:

> On 6/27/07, David Handy <david at handysoftware.com> wrote:
>> Python is getting cooler and cooler. It wasn't all that long ago  
>> that almost
>> no one I talked with, software developers included, had heard of  
>> it...
> I've had the same experience.  I've been the lone Python guy at so
> many companies -- but now I think Python is really hitting mainstream
> acceptance.  I think there are a bunch of high visibility success
> stories that are really getting developer attention lately.  Google's
> vocal use and support, the use of Python in OLPC and Ubuntu, the fact
> that UTube is written in Python (take that scalability doubters!).
>

You mention Ubuntu, but don't forget that many (most?) other Linux  
distros make extensive use of Python, most notably Red Hat as an  
early example.

In my previous job I wrote some tools in Python for our software  
product, which was targeted to Red Hat systems.  When a new boss  
arrived on the scene he complained bitterly about using something as  
wacky as Python, which he'd never heard of.  Even if it was  
"shareware", his term of endearment for OSS, we couldn't be sure our  
customer's machines would have it installed.  Despite my assurances  
that Python was not optional to a Red Hat installation he wasn't  
convinced.

It's nice to have gone from being the Lone Python Guy to a new job in  
an all Python environment.

Sorry I missed the meeting this month.  Sounds like it was a good time.

--bac



From josh_johnson at unc.edu  Thu Jun 28 15:32:38 2007
From: josh_johnson at unc.edu (Josh Johnson)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 09:32:38 -0400
Subject: [triangle-zpug] Last night's meeting recap for new Python User
 Group Blog
In-Reply-To: <4682D80B.5030008@unc.edu>
References: <4682D80B.5030008@unc.edu>
Message-ID: <4683B876.6020502@unc.edu>

When I saw that the meeting was going to be a show-and-tell, I really
wanted to go, but couldn't make it. I've been doing lots of python over
the past month, and I'm very excited about it.

If I would have been there, I would have talked about:

- Selenium RC's python bindings, how they forced me to get acquainted
with the unittest module, and subsequently rocked my world.
- how I wrote my first real-world doctests, and I'm increasingly seeing
their merit
- how I've embraced documentation: I'd moor my boat to an epydoc any day.
- The trials and tribulations of my plonification efforts in a strange
and transitional world (...still ongoing! onward ho!)

:)

JJ

Chris Calloway wrote:
> We should have show and tell more often. There was more presented last 
> night than at any meeting where we've had scheduled presentations.
>
> As mentioned last night, I'm participating on our behalf in a new Python 
> User Groups Blog set up by Dallas PyCon organizer Jeff Rush:
>
> http://python-groups.blogspot.com
>
> I you shared last night, I would appreciate your placing a paragraph on 
> this list that could be incorporated into a blog post.
>
> That would be virtal python, searchable django objects, using django to 
> bake easily changeable static content, repository patterns, etc..
>
> Paul, thanks for the cool place to meet and the wireless.
>
>   




From fwierzbicki at gmail.com  Thu Jun 28 15:52:02 2007
From: fwierzbicki at gmail.com (Frank Wierzbicki)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 09:52:02 -0400
Subject: [triangle-zpug] Last night's meeting recap for new Python User
	Group Blog
In-Reply-To: <5578F65C-735F-4688-98CF-E9A0E3F6A9C1@gmail.com>
References: <4682D80B.5030008@unc.edu> <20070627215341.GA30954@arno2>
	<4dab5f760706280555u692a5b1au94d9fb4006bbe4af@mail.gmail.com>
	<5578F65C-735F-4688-98CF-E9A0E3F6A9C1@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4dab5f760706280652s5f485d87t1052cec2c3e9817d@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/28/07, Bradley A. Crittenden <brad.crittenden at gmail.com> wrote:

> You mention Ubuntu, but don't forget that many (most?) other Linux
> distros make extensive use of Python, most notably Red Hat as an
> early example.
Yes, anaconda is written in Python, and there is plenty of Python in
various corners of Red Hat (I've been working at Red Hat for a little
under a year now).  But at least in my corner of Red Hat there is
quite a bias in favor of Java.  I shouldn't complain too much since it
is my Java background that got me my job here, but I am trying to move
some of the people around me to more productive languages  -- maybe
even Jython once we get a final out :).

And yes it seems that Python is becoming the language of choice for
many distros (I know Gentoo also uses it heavily).  I should have
started my list with "here are a couple of them that I have seen: the
whole list is too huge to even begin to catalog...)

-Frank



From jim at ibang.com  Thu Jun 28 17:58:46 2007
From: jim at ibang.com (Jim Allman)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:58:46 -0400
Subject: [triangle-zpug] Last night's meeting recap for new Python User
	Group Blog
In-Reply-To: <4682D80B.5030008@unc.edu>
References: <4682D80B.5030008@unc.edu>
Message-ID: <AB5963AE-6BD4-4CD7-B0C5-7A8E64AF794C@ibang.com>

On Jun 27, 2007, at 5:35 PM, Chris Calloway wrote:
> I you shared last night, I would appreciate your placing a  
> paragraph on
> this list that could be incorporated into a blog post.

This was arguably off-topic, but hopefully useful to others. I spoke  
briefly about the "Streamed Lines" website:
	http://www.cmcrossroads.com/bradapp/acme/branching/
	http://www.cmcrossroads.com/bradapp/acme/branching/patterns.html

This is a pretty sweeping "pattern language" on the dynamics of  
branching SCM (aka "version control"). If you're struggling with SCM  
in a real-world environment, or suspect you'd get more value from it  
if you just had a better mental model, this site is well worth a  
look. Some plusses:
	- patterns and terms are memorable, capture important distinctions  
(e.g., Codeline, Policy Branch, Integration Line)
	- lots of discussion of ideal vs. practical steps, effects of  
culture on SCM and vice versa, business and contractual relationships
	- includes lessons learned (best practices and gotchas) from a wide  
variety of projects and environments
	- it's all tool and platform agnostic (incl. some tips on how to use  
patterns with RCS :)
	- BONUS: a spiffy, whiteboard-friendly diagramming language for  
version trees (example at bottom of the homepage above)

Here's a typical inner page to get the flavor:
	http://www.cmcrossroads.com/bradapp/acme/branching/branch-creation.html

I'm surprised I hadn't heard of this site before. If anyone has any  
experiences (positive or negative) working with these ideas, I'd love  
to hear about it.

   =jimA=

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