From marry.acallahan at gmail.com Fri Feb 3 11:46:50 2017 From: marry.acallahan at gmail.com (Mary Ann Callahan) Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 18:46:50 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] More donation methods Message-ID: Hi, I see SpamBayes is distributed for free, did you think of collecting donations for its usage, especially in bitcoins? I'm now helping companies to get a free button , that is easy to embed to collect bitcoins from their users. According to our statistics, people spend bitcoins easier comparing to real dollars. Also, we are eager to make first small bitcoin donation for a good start. Would you be interested in such a button? Best, Mary ? ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fredex at fcshome.stoneham.ma.us Sat Feb 18 17:58:06 2017 From: fredex at fcshome.stoneham.ma.us (Fred Smith) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2017 17:58:06 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] training on Linux Message-ID: <20170218225806.GA11972@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us> I'm having sudden second thoughts about how I should be dealing with mails that get qualified incorrectly and dropped into the wrong mailbox. I've operated for years on the understanding that if, e.g., a mail gets dropped in spam (or unsure) that SHOULD have been sent to my inbox, the fix is to manually move it from the spam (or unsure) box into my inbox. I do this in mutt by selecting the misqualified mail and saving it to the desired box (which removes it from where it had been put). but I've been reading stuff on the spambayes web site and don't find any reference to doing it that way. In fact most of the discussion seems to be how to do it in outlook or other non-Linux system. So, I'm hoping someone can enlighten me on this. thanks in advance! Fred -- ---- Fred Smith -- fredex at fcshome.stoneham.ma.us ----------------------------- But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. ------------------------------- Romans 5:8 (niv) ------------------------------ From skip.montanaro at gmail.com Sun Feb 19 17:47:04 2017 From: skip.montanaro at gmail.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2017 16:47:04 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] training on Linux In-Reply-To: <20170218225806.GA11972@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us> References: <20170218225806.GA11972@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us> Message-ID: > I'm having sudden second thoughts about how I should be dealing with > mails that get qualified incorrectly and dropped into the wrong mailbox. > > I've operated for years on the understanding that if, e.g., a mail gets > dropped in spam (or unsure) that SHOULD have been sent to my inbox, > the fix is to manually move it from the spam (or unsure) box into my > inbox. I do this in mutt by selecting the misqualified mail and saving > it to the desired box (which removes it from where it had been put). > > but I've been reading stuff on the spambayes web site and don't find > any reference to doing it that way. In fact most of the discussion seems > to be how to do it in outlook or other non-Linux system. I no longer use SpamBayes for my personal mail, but still (from time-to-time) update the training database on mail.python.org. For that, I use the train-to-exhaustion tool (contrib/tte.py in the SpamBayes repo). You said nothing about how asymmetric your ham and spam databases are, or how big either one is, so I'm not sure what properties your current database has. In general, I do try to keep them reasonably small and current. I just got a new computer and can't currently login to mail.python.org, but when I do, I have a further shell script wrapper around tte.py I can send your way, and refresh my brain about the steps necessary to update things. Skip From fredex at fcshome.stoneham.ma.us Sun Feb 19 19:08:37 2017 From: fredex at fcshome.stoneham.ma.us (Fred Smith) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2017 19:08:37 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] training on Linux In-Reply-To: References: <20170218225806.GA11972@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us> Message-ID: <20170220000837.GA4069@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us> On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 04:47:04PM -0600, Skip Montanaro wrote: > > I'm having sudden second thoughts about how I should be dealing with > > mails that get qualified incorrectly and dropped into the wrong mailbox. > > > > I've operated for years on the understanding that if, e.g., a mail gets > > dropped in spam (or unsure) that SHOULD have been sent to my inbox, > > the fix is to manually move it from the spam (or unsure) box into my > > inbox. I do this in mutt by selecting the misqualified mail and saving > > it to the desired box (which removes it from where it had been put). > > > > but I've been reading stuff on the spambayes web site and don't find > > any reference to doing it that way. In fact most of the discussion seems > > to be how to do it in outlook or other non-Linux system. > > I no longer use SpamBayes for my personal mail, but still (from > time-to-time) update the training database on mail.python.org. For > that, I use the train-to-exhaustion tool (contrib/tte.py in the > SpamBayes repo). You said nothing about how asymmetric your ham and > spam databases are, or how big either one is, so I'm not sure what > properties your current database has. In general, I do try to keep > them reasonably small and current. > > I just got a new computer and can't currently login to > mail.python.org, but when I do, I have a further shell script wrapper > around tte.py I can send your way, and refresh my brain about the > steps necessary to update things. > > Skip Skip, thanks for the note! I think I've got a handle on it... my hammiedb was several years old and had undoubtedly accumulated a lot of cruft. I was getting numerous non-spam mails diagnosed as "unsure", no matter how many of them I moved into the HAM folder that gets trained every night by a cron job. so shortly after posting my query, I bit the bullet and moved the hammiedb aside, moved the trained.ham and trained.spam folders aside and excerpted the most recent 300 (or so) messages from ham and spam (yes, I reviewed them to ensure there weren't any ringers in there) and trained on those. now it seems to be behaving much better. I also installed (in my .muttrc) some mutt macros linked to from the spambayes page that train on messages as I move them to the ham or spam folders, should any have been mis-diagnosed. (trained.ham and trained.spam are folders where nothing is ever added except when I move a mis-diagnosed mail, manually. these are the folders that are used for training input during the cron job every night.) Thanks again for the reply! and thanks for SpamBayes, it's STILL a great tool! Fred -- ---- Fred Smith -- fredex at fcshome.stoneham.ma.us ----------------------------- "For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart." ---------------------------- Hebrews 4:12 (niv) ------------------------------ From skip.montanaro at gmail.com Mon Feb 20 11:34:44 2017 From: skip.montanaro at gmail.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 10:34:44 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] training on Linux In-Reply-To: <20170220000837.GA4069@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us> References: <20170218225806.GA11972@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us> <20170220000837.GA4069@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us> Message-ID: Here are the instructions from the mail.python.org SpamBayes setup, as well as the train.sh script which drives the process. You will almost certainly need to modify the script somewhat and take the README with a grain of salt, but hopefully not too much (and hopefully only a very small grain). Skip -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From skip.montanaro at gmail.com Thu Feb 23 12:09:08 2017 From: skip.montanaro at gmail.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 11:09:08 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambeyes not working In-Reply-To: <000001d28de1$2b375410$81a5fc30$@triad.rr.com> References: <000001d28de1$2b375410$81a5fc30$@triad.rr.com> Message-ID: I am not a Windows person, but I seem to recall others saying you have to install it in a non-default location on Windows 10. Check the list archives. You can search via Google easily enough: site:mail.python.org spambayes install windows Skip On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 8:28 AM, Jim wrote: > I?m trying to use Spambeyes with outlook 2016 (office 365) on a 32 bit win > 10 system. I tried installing 1.1a6, will it even work? It installs, (I > think), but I get no configuration wizard, and no Spambeyes box in the > toolbar > > > _______________________________________________ > SpamBayes at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html