From acorcoran at dftech.com Sun Jan 3 23:00:53 2010 From: acorcoran at dftech.com (Alan Corcoran) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 14:00:53 -0800 Subject: [Spambayes] I can test Windows 7 and Outloook 2007 Message-ID: <05AE21CEBF3F3F40ADD86DDDEE68DDBB01B8FD30@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From legato227 at yahoo.com Mon Jan 4 17:01:16 2010 From: legato227 at yahoo.com (Legato Legato) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 08:01:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spambayes] FW: Windows 7 x64 - Problems Message-ID: <149013.20843.qm@web113917.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I'm having the same problem! I'm also using Outlook 2007 on Windows 7 64 bit. What version of Python are you using? That 3.x version, or the 2.x stuff? I'm using 2.6.4 (32 bit). When I ran the trace logs, I saw the same entries - that "Python error invoking COM method" and the "ValueError: (22, 'Invalid argument')". It's driving me nuts, because spambayes worked great on XP, and I miss having it. I thought I was doing something wrong, but now I see I'm not the only one with this problem. Can someone help us out here? > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 11:44 AM > To: spambayes at python.org > Subject: [Spambayes] FW: Windows 7 x64 - Problems > > > I've been continuing to look into this, but I don't know how to fix > what's broken. I'm guessing that the root of the issue is either the > "Python error invoking COM method" or the " ValueError: (22, 'Invalid > argument')", but I don't have the grounding in python I need to understand > what the problem is. > > Can anyone shed some light on this? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ocean [mailto:Ocean at acloakinthewood.com] > > Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 1:25 PM > > To: 'spambayes at python.org' > > Subject: FW: [Spambayes] Windows 7 x64 - Problems > > > > > > > > > > Well, I uninstalled all the 64 bit stuff, and installed the 32-bit > stuff. The good news is > > > that the plug in now loads. The bad news is that it's giving me an > error: "Could not watch > > > the specified folders". I've tried deleting the INI file, and > reconfiguring it, but as soon I > > > enable SpamBayes, that error comes up. I'm using 1.1a4 (from source), > and I've been > > > running it on XP for a long time without any problems. > > > > > > Is there something about Win 7 x64 that would keep it from being to > watch the > > > Inbox (with subfolders)? > > > > > > > > Okay, some more data. I ran the Trace Collector and ran the test > suite. I have no > > idea how to copy/save information from the Trace Collector, so I have to > manually type in > > stuff, and I'll have to hope I'm giving you the relevant information here. > > > > > > It starts out like this: > > > > ------------------- > > Running 'Filtering tests' with Filter.save_spam_info=True, > Filter.timer_enabled=False > > Performing Spam test on watch folder 'My Folders/Inbox'... > > > > pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. > > ------------------- > > > > > > I then have a number of Traceback entries, with the last couple of lines > being: > > > > > > ------------------ > > File "D:\Progs\Python\Lib\email\utils.py", line 143, in formatdate > > now = time.localtime(timeval) > > > > ValueError: (22, 'Invalid argument') > > Restoring standard configuration... > > ------------------- > > > > > > ...followed by it reseting itself to watch everything again. > > > > Further down, it says: > > > > > > ------------------ > > Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer > > ------------------ > > > > ...followed by all the folders it didn't miss any in. > > > > Then we have a Traceback section again that ends in: > > > > > > ------------------- > > File "D:\Progs\SpamBayes 1.1a4\Outlook2000\tester.py", line 170, in > > CheckMessageFilteredFrom > > TestFailed("The test message remained in folder '%s'" % > ms_folder.GetFQName()) > > File "D:\Progs\SpamBayes 1.1a4\Outlook2000\tester.py", line 38, in > TestFailed > > raise TestFailure(msg) > > TestFailure: The test message remained in folder 'My Folders/Inbox' > > ------------------- > > > > ...etc... > > > > > > If you need more of the trace information, let me know (along with how to > copy the > > information so I don't have to type it in manually by hand!). > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SpamBayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carltr6 at embarqmail.com Mon Jan 4 18:05:37 2010 From: carltr6 at embarqmail.com (Carl Swofford) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 12:05:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spambayes] FW: Windows 7 x64 - Problems In-Reply-To: <149013.20843.qm@web113917.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1653479213.5636661262624737528.JavaMail.root@md20.embarq.synacor.com> I miss Spambayes, too. I am having the same problem with Win & and Outlook 2007. Carl Swofford ----- Original Message ----- From: "Legato Legato" To: spambayes at python.org Sent: Monday, January 4, 2010 11:01:16 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Spambayes] FW: Windows 7 x64 - Problems I'm having the same problem! I'm also using Outlook 2007 on Windows 7 64 bit. What version of Python are you using? That 3.x version, or the 2.x stuff? I'm using 2.6.4 (32 bit). When I ran the trace logs, I saw the same entries - that "Python error invoking COM method" and the "ValueError: (22, 'Invalid argument')". It's driving me nuts, because spambayes worked great on XP, and I miss having it. I thought I was doing something wrong, but now I see I'm not the only one with this problem. Can someone help us out here? > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 11:44 AM > To: spambayes at python.org > Subject: [Spambayes] FW: Windows 7 x64 - Problems > > > I've been continuing to look into this, but I don't know how to fix > what's broken. I'm guessing that the root of the issue is either the > "Python error invoking COM method" or the " ValueError: (22, 'Invalid > argument')", but I don't have the grounding in python I need to understand > what the problem is. > > Can anyone shed some light on this? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ocean [mailto:Ocean at acloakinthewood.com] > > Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 1:25 PM > > To: 'spambayes at python.org' > > Subject: FW: [Spambayes] Windows 7 x64 - Problems > > > > > > > > > > Well, I uninstalled all the 64 bit stuff, and installed the 32-bit > stuff. The good news is > > > that the plug in now loads. The bad news is that it's giving me an > error: "Could not watch > > > the specified folders". I've tried deleting the INI file, and > reconfiguring it, but as soon I > > > enable SpamBayes, that error comes up. I'm using 1.1a4 (from source), > and I've been > > > running it on XP for a long time without any problems. > > > > > > Is there something about Win 7 x64 that would keep it from being to > watch the > > > Inbox (with subfolders)? > > > > > > > > Okay, some more data. I ran the Trace Collector and ran the test > suite. I have no > > idea how to copy/save information from the Trace Collector, so I have to > manually type in > > stuff, and I'll have to hope I'm giving you the relevant information here. > > > > > > It starts out like this: > > > > ------------------- > > Running 'Filtering tests' with Filter.save_spam_info=True, > Filter.timer_enabled=False > > Performing Spam test on watch folder 'My Folders/Inbox'... > > > > pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. > > ------------------- > > > > > > I then have a number of Traceback entries, with the last couple of lines > being: > > > > > > ------------------ > > File "D:\Progs\Python\Lib\email\utils.py", line 143, in formatdate > > now = time.localtime(timeval) > > > > ValueError: (22, 'Invalid argument') > > Restoring standard configuration... > > ------------------- > > > > > > ...followed by it reseting itself to watch everything again. > > > > Further down, it says: > > > > > > ------------------ > > Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer > > ------------------ > > > > ...followed by all the folders it didn't miss any in. > > > > Then we have a Traceback section again that ends in: > > > > > > ------------------- > > File "D:\Progs\SpamBayes 1.1a4\Outlook2000\tester.py", line 170, in > > CheckMessageFilteredFrom > > TestFailed("The test message remained in folder '%s'" % > ms_folder.GetFQName()) > > File "D:\Progs\SpamBayes 1.1a4\Outlook2000\tester.py", line 38, in > TestFailed > > raise TestFailure(msg) > > TestFailure: The test message remained in folder 'My Folders/Inbox' > > ------------------- > > > > ...etc... > > > > > > If you need more of the trace information, let me know (along with how to > copy the > > information so I don't have to type it in manually by hand!). > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SpamBayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html _______________________________________________ SpamBayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Ocean at cobaltnight.com Mon Jan 4 18:54:34 2010 From: Ocean at cobaltnight.com (Ocean) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 12:54:34 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] FW: Windows 7 x64 - Problems In-Reply-To: <1653479213.5636661262624737528.JavaMail.root@md20.embarq.synacor.com> References: <149013.20843.qm@web113917.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <1653479213.5636661262624737528.JavaMail.root@md20.embarq.synacor.com> Message-ID: <000001ca8d67$01b92820$052b7860$@com> What version of Windows are you using? Are you also using Windows 7 x64? > > From: spambayes-bounces+ocean=cobaltnight.com at python.org [mailto:spambayes- > bounces+ocean=cobaltnight.com at python.org] On Behalf Of Carl Swofford > Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 12:06 PM > To: Legato Legato > Cc: spambayes at python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] FW: Windows 7 x64 - Problems > > I miss Spambayes, too. I am having the same problem with Win & and Outlook > 2007. > Carl Swofford > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Legato Legato" > To: spambayes at python.org > Sent: Monday, January 4, 2010 11:01:16 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] FW: Windows 7 x64 - Problems > > I'm having the same problem! I'm also using Outlook 2007 on Windows 7 > 64 bit. > > What version of Python are you using? That 3.x version, or the 2.x > stuff? I'm using 2.6.4 (32 bit). When I ran the trace logs, I saw the > same entries - that "Python error invoking COM method" and the "ValueError: > (22, 'Invalid argument')". > > It's driving me nuts, because spambayes worked great on XP, and I miss > having it. I thought I was doing something wrong, but now I see I'm not > the only one with this problem. > > > Can someone help us out here? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 11:44 AM > > To: spambayes at python.org > > Subject: [Spambayes] FW: Windows 7 x64 - Problems > > > > > > I've been continuing to look into this, but I don't know how to fix > > what's broken. I'm guessing that the root of the issue is either the > > "Python error invoking COM method" or the " ValueError: (22, 'Invalid > > argument')", but I don't have the grounding in python I need to understand > > what the problem is. > > > > Can anyone shed some light on this? > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Ocean [mailto:Ocean at acloakinthewood.com] > > > Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 1:25 PM > > > To: 'spambayes at python.org' > > > Subject: FW: [Spambayes] Windows 7 x64 - Problems > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, I uninstalled all the 64 bit stuff, and installed the 32-bit > > stuff. The good news is > > > > that the plug in now loads. The bad news is that it's giving me an > > error: "Could not watch > > > > the specified folders". I've tried deleting the INI file, and > > reconfiguring it, but as soon I > > > > enable SpamBayes, that error comes up. I'm using 1.1a4 (from source), > > and I've been > > > > running it on XP for a long time without any problems. > > > > > > > > Is there something about Win 7 x64 that would keep it from being > to > > watch the > > > > Inbox (with subfolders)? > > > > > > > > > > > > Okay, some more data. I ran the Trace Collector and ran the test > > suite. I have no > > > idea how to copy/save information from the Trace Collector, so I have to > > manually type in > > > stuff, and I'll have to hope I'm giving you the relevant information > here. > > > > > > > > > It starts out like this: > > > > > > ------------------- > > > Running 'Filtering tests' with Filter.save_spam_info=True, > > Filter.timer_enabled=False > > > Performing Spam test on watch folder 'My Folders/Inbox'... > > > > > > pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. > > > ------------------- > > > > > > > > > I then have a number of Traceback entries, with the last couple of lines > > being: > > > > > > > > > ------------------ > > > File "D:\Progs\Python\Lib\email\utils.py", line 143, in formatdate > > > now = time.localtime(timeval) > > > > > > ValueError: (22, 'Invalid argument') > > > Restoring standard configuration... > > > ------------------- > > > > > > > > > ...followed by it reseting itself to watch everything again. > > > > > > Further down, it says: > > > > > > > > > ------------------ > > > Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer > > > ------------------ > > > > > > ...followed by all the folders it didn't miss any in. > > > > > > Then we have a Traceback section again that ends in: > > > > > > > > > ------------------- > > > File "D:\Progs\SpamBayes 1.1a4\Outlook2000\tester.py", line 170, in > > > CheckMessageFilteredFrom > > > TestFailed("The test message remained in folder '%s'" % > > ms_folder.GetFQName()) > > > File "D:\Progs\SpamBayes 1.1a4\Outlook2000\tester.py", line 38, in > > TestFailed > > > raise TestFailure(msg) > > > TestFailure: The test message remained in folder 'My Folders/Inbox' > > > ------------------- > > > > > > ...etc... > > > > > > > > > If you need more of the trace information, let me know (along with how > to > > copy the > > > information so I don't have to type it in manually by hand!). > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SpamBayes at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > > Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > > > _______________________________________________ SpamBayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Info/Unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before > asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > From Ocean at cobaltnight.com Mon Jan 4 18:57:25 2010 From: Ocean at cobaltnight.com (Ocean) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 12:57:25 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] FW: Windows 7 x64 - Problems In-Reply-To: <149013.20843.qm@web113917.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <149013.20843.qm@web113917.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000101ca8d67$5f486b90$1dd942b0$@com> I'm also using 2.6.4 (32 bit). And as I mentioned in one of my earlier emails, I'm running SpamBayes 1.1a4 from source. Does anyone know what the problem is and how to fix it? > > From: spambayes-bounces+ocean=cobaltnight.com at python.org [mailto:spambayes- > bounces+ocean=cobaltnight.com at python.org] On Behalf Of Legato Legato > Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 11:01 AM > To: spambayes at python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] FW: Windows 7 x64 - Problems > > > I'm having the same problem! I'm also using Outlook 2007 on Windows 7 > 64 bit. > > What version of Python are you using? That 3.x version, or the 2.x > stuff? I'm using 2.6.4 (32 bit). When I ran the trace logs, I saw the > same entries - that "Python error invoking COM method" and the "ValueError: > (22, 'Invalid argument')". > > It's driving me nuts, because spambayes worked great on XP, and I miss > having it. I thought I was doing something wrong, but now I see I'm not > the only one with this problem. > > > Can someone help us out here? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 11:44 AM > > To: spambayes at python.org > > Subject: [Spambayes] FW: Windows 7 x64 - Problems > > > > > > I've been continuing to look into this, but I don't know how to fix > > what's broken. I'm guessing that the root of the issue is either the > > "Python error invoking COM method" or the " ValueError: (22, 'Invalid > > argument')", but I don't have the grounding in python I need to understand > > what the problem is. > > > > Can anyone shed some light on this? > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Ocean [mailto:Ocean at acloakinthewood.com] > > > Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 1:25 PM > > > To: 'spambayes at python.org' > > > Subject: FW: [Spambayes] Windows 7 x64 - Problems > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, I uninstalled all the 64 bit stuff, and installed the 32-bit > > stuff. The good news is > > > > that the plug in now loads. The bad news is that it's giving me an > > error: "Could not watch > > > > the specified folders". I've tried deleting the INI file, and > > reconfiguring it, but as soon I > > > > enable SpamBayes, that error comes up. I'm using 1.1a4 (from source), > > and I've been > > > > running it on XP for a long time without any problems. > > > > > > > > Is there something about Win 7 x64 that would keep it from being > to > > watch the > > > > Inbox (with subfolders)? > > > > > > > > > > > > Okay, some more data. I ran the Trace Collector and ran the test > > suite. I have no > > > idea how to copy/save information from the Trace Collector, so I have to > > manually type in > > > stuff, and I'll have to hope I'm giving you the relevant information > here. > > > > > > > > > It starts out like this: > > > > > > ------------------- > > > Running 'Filtering tests' with Filter.save_spam_info=True, > > Filter.timer_enabled=False > > > Performing Spam test on watch folder 'My Folders/Inbox'... > > > > > > pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. > > > ------------------- > > > > > > > > > I then have a number of Traceback entries, with the last couple of lines > > being: > > > > > > > > > ------------------ > > > File "D:\Progs\Python\Lib\email\utils.py", line 143, in formatdate > > > now = time.localtime(timeval) > > > > > > ValueError: (22, 'Invalid argument') > > > Restoring standard configuration... > > > ------------------- > > > > > > > > > ...followed by it reseting itself to watch everything again. > > > > > > Further down, it says: > > > > > > > > > ------------------ > > > Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer > > > ------------------ > > > > > > ...followed by all the folders it didn't miss any in. > > > > > > Then we have a Traceback section again that ends in: > > > > > > > > > ------------------- > > > File "D:\Progs\SpamBayes 1.1a4\Outlook2000\tester.py", line 170, in > > > CheckMessageFilteredFrom > > > TestFailed("The test message remained in folder '%s'" % > > ms_folder.GetFQName()) > > > File "D:\Progs\SpamBayes 1.1a4\Outlook2000\tester.py", line 38, in > > TestFailed > > > raise TestFailure(msg) > > > TestFailure: The test message remained in folder 'My Folders/Inbox' > > > ------------------- > > > > > > ...etc... > > > > > > > > > If you need more of the trace information, let me know (along with how > to > > copy the > > > information so I don't have to type it in manually by hand!). > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SpamBayes at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > > Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > > From bvandezande at anemo.eu Tue Jan 5 13:53:05 2010 From: bvandezande at anemo.eu (Bart Vandezande) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 13:53:05 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] outlook 2007 & windows 7 not compatible Message-ID: <00db01ca8e06$07b08f80$1711ae80$@eu> Hello, I've installed spambayes but outlook went in fatal error and mentioned it had a problem with the plug in. I had to immediately remove again spambayes. What a pitty, I have recommended your product to many other people. I'm using outlook 2007 SP2 MSO on windows 7 professional pre-installed by dell. Thanks, Mr. Bart Vandezande Strandlaan 144-301 B-8670 Koksijde Belgium Tel: +3258515301 Fax: +3258518200 bvandezande at anemo.eu http://www.anemo.eu/ Anemo helps & advises people with the most standard product that will fit into your application. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Ocean at cobaltnight.com Tue Jan 5 16:44:33 2010 From: Ocean at cobaltnight.com (Ocean) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 10:44:33 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] outlook 2007 & windows 7 not compatible In-Reply-To: <00db01ca8e06$07b08f80$1711ae80$@eu> References: <00db01ca8e06$07b08f80$1711ae80$@eu> Message-ID: <001401ca8e1d$fa12c3d0$ee384b70$@com> Are you using Windows 7 64-bit, or 32-bit? > > From: spambayes-bounces+ocean=cobaltnight.com at python.org [mailto:spambayes- > bounces+ocean=cobaltnight.com at python.org] On Behalf Of Bart Vandezande > Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 7:53 AM > To: spambayes at python.org > Subject: [Spambayes] outlook 2007 & windows 7 not compatible > > Hello, > > I've installed spambayes but outlook went in fatal error and mentioned it > had a problem with the plug in. > I had to immediately remove again spambayes. > > What a pitty, I have recommended your product to many other people. > > I'm using outlook 2007 SP2 MSO on windows 7 professional pre-installed by > dell. > > Thanks, > > Mr. Bart Vandezande > Strandlaan 144-301 > B-8670 Koksijde > Belgium > Tel: +3258515301 > Fax: +3258518200 > bvandezande at anemo.eu > http://www.anemo.eu/ > Anemo helps & advises people with the most standard product that will fit > into your application. > > From sleepmaster_91 at hotmail.com Tue Jan 5 22:09:14 2010 From: sleepmaster_91 at hotmail.com (Charlex Alexandre) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 16:09:14 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes with windows live mail Message-ID: hi, i just downloaded spambayes and i was wondering how do you configure spambayes to work with windows live mail ?? charlex new spambayes user -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skip at pobox.com Tue Jan 5 23:47:02 2010 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 16:47:02 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes with windows live mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <19267.49510.262307.937127@montanaro.dyndns.org> Charlex> i just downloaded spambayes and i was wondering how do you Charlex> configure spambayes to work with windows live mail ?? Is Windows Live Mail the replacement for Outlook Express or is it the read-my-mail-through-the-web thing? If the former, check the SpamBayes FAQ for details about Outlook Express and adjust accordingly. It *might* work. If it's the latter, I suspect you're out of luck. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.smontanaro.net/ From devadmin at webattack.com Tue Jan 5 23:30:03 2010 From: devadmin at webattack.com (devadmin at webattack.com) Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2010 17:30:03 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] SnapFiles: SpamBayes and Windows 7 compatibility Message-ID: <201001051834125.SM09720@webattack-w2k3> Hello Open Source, spambayes at python.org, Your product listing at Snapfiles.com currently shows that SpamBayes is not yet compatible with Windows 7. If this information is incorrect, please update the product listing to reflect this and attract a larger audience. If you are not ready for Win 7 yet and all the information below looks correct, you can simply discard this message. Here are some of the details that we have on file for SpamBayes : ========================================================== Download link: http://files.snapfiles.com/localdl936/spambayes-1.0.4.exe Web URL : http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/ License : Freeware ($ 0) Op. System : 98/ME/2000/XP Last update : Apr 5 2005 12:00AM =========================================================== To update your listing, simply login to the developer center http://www.snapfiles.com/dev/ and update the information, that we have on file. =========================================================== Your Developer ID is: 7122476 =========================================================== You can click on the update button provided and quickly update the information. Thank you for your cooperation SnapFiles.com http://www.snapfiles.com From skip at pobox.com Wed Jan 6 03:09:25 2010 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 20:09:25 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] SnapFiles: SpamBayes and Windows 7 compatibility In-Reply-To: <201001051834125.SM09720@webattack-w2k3> References: <201001051834125.SM09720@webattack-w2k3> Message-ID: <19267.61653.357741.652613@montanaro.dyndns.org> >> Hello Open Source, spambayes at python.org, >> Your product listing at Snapfiles.com currently shows that SpamBayes >> is not yet compatible with Windows 7. If this information is >> incorrect, please update the product listing to reflect this and >> attract a larger audience. If you are not ready for Win 7 yet and >> all the information below looks correct, you can simply discard this >> message. An alternative... Perhaps you could test SpamBayes with Windows 7 and let us know? Sorry to be snide, but I think updating your database would help you more than us... -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.smontanaro.net/ From skippy.hammond at gmail.com Wed Jan 6 03:17:56 2010 From: skippy.hammond at gmail.com (Mark Hammond) Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 13:17:56 +1100 Subject: [Spambayes] FW: Windows 7 x64 - Problems In-Reply-To: <000901ca87dd$07930c00$16b92400$@com> References: <000901ca87dd$07930c00$16b92400$@com> Message-ID: <4B43F2D4.2020100@gmail.com> On 29/12/2009 3:44 AM, Ocean wrote: >> Okay, some more data. I ran the Trace Collector and ran the test > suite. I have no >> idea how to copy/save information from the Trace Collector, so I have to > manually type in >> stuff, and I'll have to hope I'm giving you the relevant information here. In a command-prompt window, you can right-click on the Window use the context menu to 'Mark' text then 'Copy' it to the clipboard. However, it shouldn't be necessary to register for debugging and use the trace collector at all. Could you please: * Locate your 'temp' directory. You can probably do this by starting a command-prompt and executing "cd %TEMP%" * Confirm there are spambayes log files there. Executing "dir spambayes*.log" should show them. * Terminate outlook then delete the log files - executing "del spambayes*.log" should do that. * Start outlook, reproduce your problem once (without running tests etc), then terminate outlook. * Resend a mail to this list which includes all the spambayes*.log files from your temp directory. Thanks, Mark From Ocean at cobaltnight.com Wed Jan 6 06:06:32 2010 From: Ocean at cobaltnight.com (Ocean) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 00:06:32 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] FW: Windows 7 x64 - Problems In-Reply-To: <4B43F2D4.2020100@gmail.com> References: <000901ca87dd$07930c00$16b92400$@com> <4B43F2D4.2020100@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000601ca8e8e$0b95d730$22c18590$@com> There are no log files. Keep in mind that I run from source - I believe even the application points out that there won't be log files, but needs the Trace Collector. If you want a log of what happens when a new message comes in, I can try to get that for you from the Trace Collector. However, if you want a log of what's happening when Outlook starts up and fails to load SpamBayes in the first place, you'll have to tell me how to get it - since the only way I've been able to get info from the Trace Collector is to run it from SpamBayes Manager once Outlook is already loaded. > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces+ocean=cobaltnight.com at python.org [mailto:spambayes- > bounces+ocean=cobaltnight.com at python.org] On Behalf Of Mark Hammond > Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 9:18 PM > To: Ocean > Cc: spambayes at python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] FW: Windows 7 x64 - Problems > > On 29/12/2009 3:44 AM, Ocean wrote: > >> Okay, some more data. I ran the Trace Collector and ran the test > > suite. I have no > >> idea how to copy/save information from the Trace Collector, so I have to > > manually type in > >> stuff, and I'll have to hope I'm giving you the relevant information here. > > In a command-prompt window, you can right-click on the Window use the > context menu to 'Mark' text then 'Copy' it to the clipboard. > > However, it shouldn't be necessary to register for debugging and use the > trace collector at all. Could you please: > > * Locate your 'temp' directory. You can probably do this by starting a > command-prompt and executing "cd %TEMP%" > > * Confirm there are spambayes log files there. Executing "dir > spambayes*.log" should show them. > > * Terminate outlook then delete the log files - executing "del > spambayes*.log" should do that. > > * Start outlook, reproduce your problem once (without running tests > etc), then terminate outlook. > > * Resend a mail to this list which includes all the spambayes*.log files > from your temp directory. > > Thanks, > > Mark > _______________________________________________ > SpamBayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From Ocean at cobaltnight.com Wed Jan 6 06:35:29 2010 From: Ocean at cobaltnight.com (Ocean) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 00:35:29 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] FW: Windows 7 x64 - Problems In-Reply-To: <000601ca8e8e$0b95d730$22c18590$@com> References: <000901ca87dd$07930c00$16b92400$@com> <4B43F2D4.2020100@gmail.com> <000601ca8e8e$0b95d730$22c18590$@com> Message-ID: <000001ca8e92$16b301c0$44190540$@com> Just to clarify, I've tried running the Trace Collector through Pythonwin as well as through win32traceutil.py, but nothing shows up when I start Outlook. I only get data when I launch it through SpamBayes. > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces+ocean=cobaltnight.com at python.org [mailto:spambayes- > bounces+ocean=cobaltnight.com at python.org] On Behalf Of Ocean > Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 12:07 AM > To: mhammond at skippinet.com.au > Cc: spambayes at python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] FW: Windows 7 x64 - Problems > > > There are no log files. Keep in mind that I run from source - I > believe even the application points out that there won't be log files, but > needs the Trace Collector. > > If you want a log of what happens when a new message comes in, I can > try to get that for you from the Trace Collector. However, if you want a > log of what's happening when Outlook starts up and fails to load SpamBayes > in the first place, you'll have to tell me how to get it - since the only > way I've been able to get info from the Trace Collector is to run it from > SpamBayes Manager once Outlook is already loaded. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: spambayes-bounces+ocean=cobaltnight.com at python.org > [mailto:spambayes- > > bounces+ocean=cobaltnight.com at python.org] On Behalf Of Mark Hammond > > Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 9:18 PM > > To: Ocean > > Cc: spambayes at python.org > > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] FW: Windows 7 x64 - Problems > > > > On 29/12/2009 3:44 AM, Ocean wrote: > > >> Okay, some more data. I ran the Trace Collector and ran the test > > > suite. I have no > > >> idea how to copy/save information from the Trace Collector, so I have > to > > > manually type in > > >> stuff, and I'll have to hope I'm giving you the relevant information > here. > > > > In a command-prompt window, you can right-click on the Window use the > > context menu to 'Mark' text then 'Copy' it to the clipboard. > > > > However, it shouldn't be necessary to register for debugging and use the > > trace collector at all. Could you please: > > > > * Locate your 'temp' directory. You can probably do this by starting a > > command-prompt and executing "cd %TEMP%" > > > > * Confirm there are spambayes log files there. Executing "dir > > spambayes*.log" should show them. > > > > * Terminate outlook then delete the log files - executing "del > > spambayes*.log" should do that. > > > > * Start outlook, reproduce your problem once (without running tests > > etc), then terminate outlook. > > > > * Resend a mail to this list which includes all the spambayes*.log files > > from your temp directory. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mark > > _______________________________________________ > > SpamBayes at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > > Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > > _______________________________________________ > SpamBayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From Ocean at cobaltnight.com Wed Jan 6 07:05:37 2010 From: Ocean at cobaltnight.com (Ocean) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 01:05:37 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] FW: Windows 7 x64 - Problems In-Reply-To: <4B442272.9030609@skippinet.com.au> References: <000901ca87dd$07930c00$16b92400$@com> <4B43F2D4.2020100@gmail.com> <000601ca8e8e$0b95d730$22c18590$@com> <4B442272.9030609@skippinet.com.au> Message-ID: <000001ca8e96$4bd77350$e38659f0$@com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Hammond [mailto:mhammond at skippinet.com.au] > Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 12:41 AM > To: Ocean > Cc: spambayes at python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] FW: Windows 7 x64 - Problems > > > > If you want a log of what happens when a new message comes in, I can > > try to get that for you from the Trace Collector. However, if you want a > > log of what's happening when Outlook starts up and fails to load SpamBayes > > in the first place, you'll have to tell me how to get it - since the only > > way I've been able to get info from the Trace Collector is to run it from > > SpamBayes Manager once Outlook is already loaded. > > I'm a little confused - if there are errors when a new message comes in, > doesn't that mean spambayes is already loaded? > When Outlook is started, you get the error message that SpamBayes failed to load. However, the toolbar is present, and you can interact with it as normal - although it starts off disabled. I enabled SpamBayes, started the Trace Collector, and then ran the test suite. That was the setup for the partial trace logs I supplied earlier. I suppose it's possible that the Test Suite is failing, but SpamBayes would actually run correctly once manually enabled (which would have to be done every time Outlook is started), but I haven't been able to confirm this (not getting enough spam to test yet). > I admit I haven't been following as closely as I could - I'm really just > after the complete copy of any relevant errors - your last email had > both partial errors, and seemed to include some references to the test > suite having been run. Anything you can do to achieve that goal (ie, > relevant errors in their entirety) would be good. > I gave you everything relevant insofar as the errors that showed up while running the test suite. However, *if* SpamBayes is capable of running correctly, and it's just the test suite that's failing, then the big issue is what's causing it to not load when Outlook starts. And I still need a way to get those trace logs. > > Just to clarify, I've tried running the Trace Collector through > > Pythonwin as well as through win32traceutil.py, but nothing shows up when I > > start Outlook. I only get data when I launch it through SpamBayes. > > This sounds like an issue introduced with Vista. If you start a > cmd-prompt or pythonwin with admin permissions (ie, "run as > administrator") before starting outlook it should work OK. As mentioned > above though, unless you plan to hack on the sources, using a binary > build is probably best. > > Cheers, > > Mark Well, first of all, I'm running on an Admin account, so my loading the Trace Collector is already occurring with admin access (however, I tried doing it manually just to be sure - no change in results). And secondly, I do need and prefer to run from source. Although I could be wrong, I don't recall seeing a binary for 1.1a4. But more importantly, I made a few very small changes in the source to support multiple profiles in Outlook (which I had outlined in a prior email to the mailing list earlier this year). These changes are minor and would not have anything to do with what's going on now. In addition, I ran Spambayes perfectly on XP with those mods. If you like, I can tell you exactly what was changed so you can be sure that it's not causing the load problem. However, keep in mind that others have reported the exact same problem on Win 7 x64, and I doubt they're using these mods - so I really feel they are not relevant here. But it does mean that I have no choice but to run from source. From Ocean at cobaltnight.com Wed Jan 6 08:08:59 2010 From: Ocean at cobaltnight.com (Ocean) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 02:08:59 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] FW: Windows 7 x64 - Problems In-Reply-To: <4B4429B5.9060907@skippinet.com.au> References: <000901ca87dd$07930c00$16b92400$@com> <4B43F2D4.2020100@gmail.com> <000601ca8e8e$0b95d730$22c18590$@com> <4B442272.9030609@skippinet.com.au> <000001ca8e96$4bd77350$e38659f0$@com> <4B4429B5.9060907@skippinet.com.au> Message-ID: <000101ca8e9f$1ea8e590$5bfab0b0$@com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Hammond [mailto:mhammond at skippinet.com.au] > Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 1:12 AM > To: Ocean > Cc: spambayes at python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] FW: Windows 7 x64 - Problems > > On 6/01/2010 5:05 PM, Ocean wrote: > > When Outlook is started, you get the error message that SpamBayes > > failed to load. However, the toolbar is present, and you can interact with > > it as normal - although it starts off disabled. I enabled SpamBayes, > > started the Trace Collector, and then ran the test suite. That was the > > setup for the partial trace logs I supplied earlier. > > So apart from needing to manually enable it, things are working fine for > you? > I need to test it further before I know for certain. Right now, I'm not getting spam that frequently, so it's hard to tell if it's working correctly or not. > > I gave you everything relevant insofar as the errors that showed up > > while running the test suite. > > You didn't - I understand you tried to and were thwarted by being unable > to find how to copy directly from a command-prompt - but I need the full > logs, not just snippets. > Well, right now, the most relevant logs would be during startup. I'll get those to you as soon as I can successfully get them. > > However, *if* SpamBayes is capable of running > > correctly, and it's just the test suite that's failing, then the big issue > > is what's causing it to not load when Outlook starts. And I still need a > > way to get those trace logs. > > You can get the trace logs by using the binary version then following my > earlier instructions. The 'troubleshooting guide' on the website might > also be useful. > The binary version is my last resort, both due to the fact that running from it would mean running from an older version, and also because it means I would lose the multiple profile capability. As for the troubleshooting guide, given my circumstances, it tells me to report a bug, which is - in part - what I'm doing here. I have already tried resetting SpamBayes, as well as re-registering the add-in, with no change. > > Well, first of all, I'm running on an Admin account, so my loading > > the Trace Collector is already occurring with admin access (however, I tried > > doing it manually just to be sure - no change in results). > > Running an admin account is quite different than starting with 'run as > administrator'. > To my knowledge, the purpose of that command is so you can run an app with admin priviledges while being logged in under a non-admin account. That makes it equivalent to running it normally while being logged in as an admin. That being said, I did mention that I tried it as well, with no change in the problem running the Trace Collector. > > And secondly, I do need and prefer to run from source. > > That's fine - I'm just trying to help you to get the logs needed for me > to help you. Please consider modifying the source so you get 'normal' > log behaviour even when running from sources. Alternatively, try > running 'setup_py2exe.py' from the source tree to create your own binary > installer you can run from. > > Cheers, > > Mark I'd be happy modifying the source so I get normal log behavior. If I may ask, has instructions for this been posted anywhere? Or do I need to try and figure it out myself? From mhammond at skippinet.com.au Wed Jan 6 06:41:06 2010 From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond) Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 16:41:06 +1100 Subject: [Spambayes] FW: Windows 7 x64 - Problems In-Reply-To: <000601ca8e8e$0b95d730$22c18590$@com> References: <000901ca87dd$07930c00$16b92400$@com> <4B43F2D4.2020100@gmail.com> <000601ca8e8e$0b95d730$22c18590$@com> Message-ID: <4B442272.9030609@skippinet.com.au> On 6/01/2010 4:06 PM, Ocean wrote: > > There are no log files. Keep in mind that I run from source - I > believe even the application points out that there won't be log files, but > needs the Trace Collector. Perhaps you could try the most recent binary? It doesn't sound like you need, or even want, to run from sources. > If you want a log of what happens when a new message comes in, I can > try to get that for you from the Trace Collector. However, if you want a > log of what's happening when Outlook starts up and fails to load SpamBayes > in the first place, you'll have to tell me how to get it - since the only > way I've been able to get info from the Trace Collector is to run it from > SpamBayes Manager once Outlook is already loaded. I'm a little confused - if there are errors when a new message comes in, doesn't that mean spambayes is already loaded? I admit I haven't been following as closely as I could - I'm really just after the complete copy of any relevant errors - your last email had both partial errors, and seemed to include some references to the test suite having been run. Anything you can do to achieve that goal (ie, relevant errors in their entirety) would be good. From your most recent message: > Just to clarify, I've tried running the Trace Collector through > Pythonwin as well as through win32traceutil.py, but nothing shows up when I > start Outlook. I only get data when I launch it through SpamBayes. This sounds like an issue introduced with Vista. If you start a cmd-prompt or pythonwin with admin permissions (ie, "run as administrator") before starting outlook it should work OK. As mentioned above though, unless you plan to hack on the sources, using a binary build is probably best. Cheers, Mark From mhammond at skippinet.com.au Wed Jan 6 07:12:05 2010 From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond) Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 17:12:05 +1100 Subject: [Spambayes] FW: Windows 7 x64 - Problems In-Reply-To: <000001ca8e96$4bd77350$e38659f0$@com> References: <000901ca87dd$07930c00$16b92400$@com> <4B43F2D4.2020100@gmail.com> <000601ca8e8e$0b95d730$22c18590$@com> <4B442272.9030609@skippinet.com.au> <000001ca8e96$4bd77350$e38659f0$@com> Message-ID: <4B4429B5.9060907@skippinet.com.au> On 6/01/2010 5:05 PM, Ocean wrote: > When Outlook is started, you get the error message that SpamBayes > failed to load. However, the toolbar is present, and you can interact with > it as normal - although it starts off disabled. I enabled SpamBayes, > started the Trace Collector, and then ran the test suite. That was the > setup for the partial trace logs I supplied earlier. So apart from needing to manually enable it, things are working fine for you? > I gave you everything relevant insofar as the errors that showed up > while running the test suite. You didn't - I understand you tried to and were thwarted by being unable to find how to copy directly from a command-prompt - but I need the full logs, not just snippets. > However, *if* SpamBayes is capable of running > correctly, and it's just the test suite that's failing, then the big issue > is what's causing it to not load when Outlook starts. And I still need a > way to get those trace logs. You can get the trace logs by using the binary version then following my earlier instructions. The 'troubleshooting guide' on the website might also be useful. > Well, first of all, I'm running on an Admin account, so my loading > the Trace Collector is already occurring with admin access (however, I tried > doing it manually just to be sure - no change in results). Running an admin account is quite different than starting with 'run as administrator'. > And secondly, I do need and prefer to run from source. That's fine - I'm just trying to help you to get the logs needed for me to help you. Please consider modifying the source so you get 'normal' log behaviour even when running from sources. Alternatively, try running 'setup_py2exe.py' from the source tree to create your own binary installer you can run from. Cheers, Mark From mhammond at skippinet.com.au Wed Jan 6 10:58:02 2010 From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond) Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 20:58:02 +1100 Subject: [Spambayes] FW: Windows 7 x64 - Problems In-Reply-To: <000101ca8e9f$1ea8e590$5bfab0b0$@com> References: <000901ca87dd$07930c00$16b92400$@com> <4B43F2D4.2020100@gmail.com> <000601ca8e8e$0b95d730$22c18590$@com> <4B442272.9030609@skippinet.com.au> <000001ca8e96$4bd77350$e38659f0$@com> <4B4429B5.9060907@skippinet.com.au> <000101ca8e9f$1ea8e590$5bfab0b0$@com> Message-ID: <4B445EAA.2090706@skippinet.com.au> On 6/01/2010 6:08 PM, Ocean wrote: > The binary version is my last resort, both due to the fact that > running from it would mean running from an older version, and also because > it means I would lose the multiple profile capability. If you are correct that your changes have no impact on your current problem, you could just install the binary version for the sake of diagnostics - once the problem is found, your modified version will then also work fine. > To my knowledge, the purpose of that command is so you can run an > app with admin priviledges while being logged in under a non-admin account. > That makes it equivalent to running it normally while being logged in as an > admin. Sorry, but that is wrong. Administrators can escalate simply by hitting the "allow" button - non-admins are prompted for an admin password to escalate. An escalated admin is quite different than a non-escalated one. > I'd be happy modifying the source so I get normal log behavior. If > I may ask, has instructions for this been posted anywhere? Or do I need to > try and figure it out myself? There is not much in the way of developer-specific information - and it is assumed only developers will run from source. Looking for references to sys.frozen should point you in the right direction though... Cheers, Mark From Ocean at cobaltnight.com Wed Jan 6 14:54:57 2010 From: Ocean at cobaltnight.com (Ocean) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 08:54:57 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] FW: Windows 7 x64 - Problems In-Reply-To: <4B445EAA.2090706@skippinet.com.au> References: <000901ca87dd$07930c00$16b92400$@com> <4B43F2D4.2020100@gmail.com> <000601ca8e8e$0b95d730$22c18590$@com> <4B442272.9030609@skippinet.com.au> <000001ca8e96$4bd77350$e38659f0$@com> <4B4429B5.9060907@skippinet.com.au> <000101ca8e9f$1ea8e590$5bfab0b0$@com> <4B445EAA.2090706@skippinet.com.au> Message-ID: <000001ca8ed7$dc26bec0$94743c40$@com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Hammond [mailto:mhammond at skippinet.com.au] > Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 4:58 AM > To: Ocean > Cc: spambayes at python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] FW: Windows 7 x64 - Problems > > On 6/01/2010 6:08 PM, Ocean wrote: > > The binary version is my last resort, both due to the fact that > > running from it would mean running from an older version, and also because > > it means I would lose the multiple profile capability. > > If you are correct that your changes have no impact on your current > problem, you could just install the binary version for the sake of > diagnostics - once the problem is found, your modified version will then > also work fine. > If I can't modify the source files for logging, I'll do that. > > I'd be happy modifying the source so I get normal log behavior. If > > I may ask, has instructions for this been posted anywhere? Or do I need to > > try and figure it out myself? > > There is not much in the way of developer-specific information - and it > is assumed only developers will run from source. Looking for references > to sys.frozen should point you in the right direction though... > > Cheers, > > Mark The only relevant section I could find was in addin.py. I made the appropriate modifications (commenting out "import win32traceutil" and copying the body of the IF statement above it in it's place), unregistered the addin, and re-registered it - but that didn't seem to do the trick. The comments in this section mentioned moving to a logging module later, but I couldn't find any other relevant logging sections. I pored through the source by looking for instances of "frozen", variations on logging, "win32traceutil", and "spambayes%d.log", but I couldn't find any other place that seemed to be what I was looking for. Either I'm blind, or it's nicely hidden! :) From dale at BriannasSaladDressing.com Wed Jan 6 19:32:17 2010 From: dale at BriannasSaladDressing.com (Dale Schroeder) Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 12:32:17 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] FW: Windows 7 x64 - Problems In-Reply-To: <000001ca8e96$4bd77350$e38659f0$@com> References: <000901ca87dd$07930c00$16b92400$@com> <4B43F2D4.2020100@gmail.com> <000601ca8e8e$0b95d730$22c18590$@com> <4B442272.9030609@skippinet.com.au> <000001ca8e96$4bd77350$e38659f0$@com> Message-ID: <4B44D731.5080903@BriannasSaladDressing.com> If I'm understanding you correctly, and if needed, this is where you'll find the 1.1a4 binary, although it is 2+ years old: http://sourceforge.net/projects/spambayes/files/spambayes/1.1a4/spambayes-1.1a4-070629.exe/download > And secondly, I do need and prefer to run from source. Although I > could be wrong, I don't recall seeing a binary for 1.1a4. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mhammond at skippinet.com.au Thu Jan 7 00:53:04 2010 From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond) Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 10:53:04 +1100 Subject: [Spambayes] FW: Windows 7 x64 - Problems In-Reply-To: <000001ca8ed7$dc26bec0$94743c40$@com> References: <000901ca87dd$07930c00$16b92400$@com> <4B43F2D4.2020100@gmail.com> <000601ca8e8e$0b95d730$22c18590$@com> <4B442272.9030609@skippinet.com.au> <000001ca8e96$4bd77350$e38659f0$@com> <4B4429B5.9060907@skippinet.com.au> <000101ca8e9f$1ea8e590$5bfab0b0$@com> <4B445EAA.2090706@skippinet.com.au> <000001ca8ed7$dc26bec0$94743c40$@com> Message-ID: <4B452260.9020309@skippinet.com.au> On 7/01/2010 12:54 AM, Ocean wrote: > The only relevant section I could find was in addin.py. I made the > appropriate modifications (commenting out "import win32traceutil" and > copying the body of the IF statement above it in it's place), unregistered > the addin, and re-registered it - but that didn't seem to do the trick. That should be right - or just change the line: if hasattr(sys, "frozen"): to something like: if True or hasattr(sys, "frozen"): Also, ensure you don't register the addin with '--debug' HTH, Mark From Ocean at cobaltnight.com Thu Jan 7 01:33:19 2010 From: Ocean at cobaltnight.com (Ocean) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 19:33:19 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] FW: Windows 7 x64 - Problems In-Reply-To: <4B452260.9020309@skippinet.com.au> References: <000901ca87dd$07930c00$16b92400$@com> <4B43F2D4.2020100@gmail.com> <000601ca8e8e$0b95d730$22c18590$@com> <4B442272.9030609@skippinet.com.au> <000001ca8e96$4bd77350$e38659f0$@com> <4B4429B5.9060907@skippinet.com.au> <000101ca8e9f$1ea8e590$5bfab0b0$@com> <4B445EAA.2090706@skippinet.com.au> <000001ca8ed7$dc26bec0$94743c40$@com> <4B452260.9020309@skippinet.com.au> Message-ID: <001b01ca8f31$02fc7770$08f56650$@com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Hammond [mailto:mhammond at skippinet.com.au] > Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 6:53 PM > To: Ocean > Cc: spambayes at python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] FW: Windows 7 x64 - Problems > > On 7/01/2010 12:54 AM, Ocean wrote: > > The only relevant section I could find was in addin.py. I made the > > appropriate modifications (commenting out "import win32traceutil" and > > copying the body of the IF statement above it in it's place), unregistered > > the addin, and re-registered it - but that didn't seem to do the trick. > > That should be right - or just change the line: > > if hasattr(sys, "frozen"): > > to something like: > > if True or hasattr(sys, "frozen"): > > Also, ensure you don't register the addin with '--debug' > > HTH, > > Mark That's exactly what I did. Here's the exact code I used: -------------------------------------------------- # No console - if we are running from Python sources, # redirect to win32traceutil, but if running from a binary # install, redirect to a log file. # Want to move to logging module later, so for now, we # hack together a simple logging strategy. if hasattr(sys, "frozen"): temp_dir = win32api.GetTempPath() for i in range(3,0,-1): try: os.unlink(os.path.join(temp_dir, "spambayes%d.log" % (i+1))) except os.error: pass try: os.rename( os.path.join(temp_dir, "spambayes%d.log" % i), os.path.join(temp_dir, "spambayes%d.log" % (i+1)) ) except os.error: pass # Open this log, as unbuffered so crashes still get written. sys.stdout = open(os.path.join(temp_dir,"spambayes1.log"), "wt", 0) sys.stderr = sys.stdout else: # Enable Log Files when running from source temp_dir = win32api.GetTempPath() for i in range(3,0,-1): try: os.unlink(os.path.join(temp_dir, "spambayes%d.log" % (i+1))) except os.error: pass try: os.rename( os.path.join(temp_dir, "spambayes%d.log" % i), os.path.join(temp_dir, "spambayes%d.log" % (i+1)) ) except os.error: pass # Open this log, as unbuffered so crashes still get written. sys.stdout = open(os.path.join(temp_dir,"spambayes1.log"), "wt", 0) sys.stderr = sys.stdout # Rem out original line in this section # import win32traceutil # End of Enable Log Files when running from source -------------------------------------------------- I unregistered with "addin.py --unregister", and I registered with "addin.py". No go. From Ocean at cobaltnight.com Thu Jan 7 20:08:31 2010 From: Ocean at cobaltnight.com (Ocean) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 14:08:31 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] FW: Windows 7 x64 - Problems In-Reply-To: <4B452260.9020309@skippinet.com.au> References: <000901ca87dd$07930c00$16b92400$@com> <4B43F2D4.2020100@gmail.com> <000601ca8e8e$0b95d730$22c18590$@com> <4B442272.9030609@skippinet.com.au> <000001ca8e96$4bd77350$e38659f0$@com> <4B4429B5.9060907@skippinet.com.au> <000101ca8e9f$1ea8e590$5bfab0b0$@com> <4B445EAA.2090706@skippinet.com.au> <000001ca8ed7$dc26bec0$94743c40$@com> <4B452260.9020309@skippinet.com.au> Message-ID: <000301ca8fcc$d4c60cd0$7e522670$@com> Okay, since changing the source to allow normal logging wasn't working (even after you had confirmed that I did it correctly), I went ahead and unregistered it, and installed the binary version. So, as expected, the same problem exists when starting up Outlook. So, I go to grab the log file, and lo and behold - it's not there. Okay, maybe SpamBayes isn't honoring the environment variable for the Temp directory and is storing it somewhere else, so I'll just go into the SpamBayes Manager, and pull it up from there. I go to do that and get an error message - "The log file for this session could not be located." Perhaps there was nothing wrong with my source code modification for the logging after all. Obviously, SpamBayes has other issues with Outlook 2007 and Win 7 x64. Since that didn't work, I uninstalled it and re-installed my original source version. And, for what it's worth - I'm getting a message when I install or remove the addin from source: ------------------------------ D:\>"D:\Progs\SpamBayes 1.1a4\Outlook2000\addin.py" --unregister D:\Progs\SpamBayes 1.1a4\Outlook2000\addin.py:438: SyntaxWarning: assertion is always true, perhaps remove parentheses? assert(not self.manager.config.training.train_manual_spam, Unregistered: SpamBayes.OutlookAddin D:\> ------------------------------ D:\>"D:\Progs\SpamBayes 1.1a4\Outlook2000\addin.py" D:\Progs\SpamBayes 1.1a4\Outlook2000\addin.py:438: SyntaxWarning: assertion is always true, perhaps remove parentheses? assert(not self.manager.config.training.train_manual_spam, Registered: SpamBayes.OutlookAddin Registration complete. D:\> ------------------------------ Don't know if it's important, but I thought I'd point it out. So, it would now appear that we have two issues (three, if you count the message that comes up on install/uninstall from source) - whatever is causing SpamBayes to not enable when Outlook starts, and whatever is causing it to be unable to create a log file. What now? > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Hammond [mailto:mhammond at skippinet.com.au] > Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 6:53 PM > To: Ocean > Cc: spambayes at python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] FW: Windows 7 x64 - Problems > > On 7/01/2010 12:54 AM, Ocean wrote: > > The only relevant section I could find was in addin.py. I made the > > appropriate modifications (commenting out "import win32traceutil" and > > copying the body of the IF statement above it in it's place), unregistered > > the addin, and re-registered it - but that didn't seem to do the trick. > > That should be right - or just change the line: > > if hasattr(sys, "frozen"): > > to something like: > > if True or hasattr(sys, "frozen"): > > Also, ensure you don't register the addin with '--debug' > > HTH, > > Mark From Ocean at cobaltnight.com Fri Jan 8 18:28:33 2010 From: Ocean at cobaltnight.com (Ocean) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 12:28:33 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] FW: Windows 7 x64 - Problems In-Reply-To: References: <000901ca87dd$07930c00$16b92400$@com> <4B43F2D4.2020100@gmail.com><000601ca8e8e$0b95d730$22c18590$@com><4B442272.9030609@skippinet.com.au><000001ca8e96$4bd77350$e38659f0$@com><4B4429B5.9060907@skippinet.com.au><000101ca8e9f$1ea8e590$5bfab0b0$@com><4B445EAA.2090706@skippinet.com.au><000001ca8ed7$dc26bec0$94743c40$@com><4B452260.9020309@skippinet.com.au> <000301ca8fcc$d4c60cd0$7e522670$@com> Message-ID: <001001ca9088$077c2950$16747bf0$@com> The log file would be written to the directory specified by the environment variable as the Temp directory. On my system, that points to a directory that's not even on C:\, so that shouldn't be the issue. > -----Original Message----- > From: Doug Behm [mailto:dbehm at fa.ua.edu] > Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 12:13 PM > To: Ocean > Subject: RE: [Spambayes] FW: Windows 7 x64 - Problems > > This is a thought on what may be the problem about logging. I had installed a news reader in > c:\program files as I had in XP and Vista, however, nothing was being written in the files, it > was as if I was using a new install each time I started the reader. I searched the web and > found that Win 7 won't write to files in program files and suggested moving program to > c:\reader which I did and things began to be saved. > > ====================================================== > Douglas D. Behm, P.G.????????????????????? dbehm at fa.ua.edu > University Geologist and Director - University Lands > Office of Land Management and Real Estate Services > University of Alabama > > > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces+dbehm=fa.ua.edu at python.org [mailto:spambayes- > bounces+dbehm=fa.ua.edu at python.org] On Behalf Of Ocean > Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 1:09 PM > To: 'Mark Hammond' > Cc: spambayes at python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] FW: Windows 7 x64 - Problems > > > Okay, since changing the source to allow normal logging wasn't > working (even after you had confirmed that I did it correctly), I went ahead > and unregistered it, and installed the binary version. > > So, as expected, the same problem exists when starting up Outlook. > So, I go to grab the log file, and lo and behold - it's not there. Okay, > maybe SpamBayes isn't honoring the environment variable for the Temp > directory and is storing it somewhere else, so I'll just go into the > SpamBayes Manager, and pull it up from there. I go to do that and get an > error message - "The log file for this session could not be located." > > Perhaps there was nothing wrong with my source code modification for > the logging after all. Obviously, SpamBayes has other issues with Outlook > 2007 and Win 7 x64. > > Since that didn't work, I uninstalled it and re-installed my > original source version. > > And, for what it's worth - I'm getting a message when I install or > remove the addin from source: > > > ------------------------------ > > D:\>"D:\Progs\SpamBayes 1.1a4\Outlook2000\addin.py" --unregister > D:\Progs\SpamBayes 1.1a4\Outlook2000\addin.py:438: SyntaxWarning: assertion > is always true, perhaps remove parentheses? > assert(not self.manager.config.training.train_manual_spam, > Unregistered: SpamBayes.OutlookAddin > > D:\> > > ------------------------------ > > D:\>"D:\Progs\SpamBayes 1.1a4\Outlook2000\addin.py" > D:\Progs\SpamBayes 1.1a4\Outlook2000\addin.py:438: SyntaxWarning: assertion > is always true, perhaps remove parentheses? > assert(not self.manager.config.training.train_manual_spam, > Registered: SpamBayes.OutlookAddin > Registration complete. > > D:\> > > ------------------------------ > > > Don't know if it's important, but I thought I'd point it out. > > So, it would now appear that we have two issues (three, if you count > the message that comes up on install/uninstall from source) - whatever is > causing SpamBayes to not enable when Outlook starts, and whatever is causing > it to be unable to create a log file. > > > What now? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mark Hammond [mailto:mhammond at skippinet.com.au] > > Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 6:53 PM > > To: Ocean > > Cc: spambayes at python.org > > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] FW: Windows 7 x64 - Problems > > > > On 7/01/2010 12:54 AM, Ocean wrote: > > > The only relevant section I could find was in addin.py. I made the > > > appropriate modifications (commenting out "import win32traceutil" and > > > copying the body of the IF statement above it in it's place), > unregistered > > > the addin, and re-registered it - but that didn't seem to do the trick. > > > > That should be right - or just change the line: > > > > if hasattr(sys, "frozen"): > > > > to something like: > > > > if True or hasattr(sys, "frozen"): > > > > Also, ensure you don't register the addin with '--debug' > > > > HTH, > > > > Mark > > _______________________________________________ > SpamBayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.130/2607 - Release Date: 01/08/10 01:35:00 > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.130/2607 - Release Date: 01/08/10 01:35:00 From dansley at radudley.com Tue Jan 12 21:39:12 2010 From: dansley at radudley.com (David Ansley) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 15:39:12 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes and Thunderbayes Message-ID: <4B4CDDF0.9010301@radudley.com> I'm using Thunderbird as my e-mail client. Will Thunderbayes work by itself as an effective spam filter, or do I need to load Spambayes first, then Thunderbayes? Thanks! David -- David Ansley R.A. Dudley Nurseries, Inc. (800) 542-4484 From dale at BriannasSaladDressing.com Tue Jan 12 22:36:51 2010 From: dale at BriannasSaladDressing.com (Dale Schroeder) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 15:36:51 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes and Thunderbayes In-Reply-To: <4B4CDDF0.9010301@radudley.com> References: <4B4CDDF0.9010301@radudley.com> Message-ID: <4B4CEB73.60708@BriannasSaladDressing.com> David, It's been a while since I last used ThunderBayes, but at the time, it came with a builtin version of SpamBayes - v.1.0.4. If you wished to use a newer version (like 1.1a4), you could install the newer version first, then configure ThunderBayes to control the other install instead of the builtin version. So it's a user choice thing. Original ThunderBayes (along with many other addons) is not supported by Thunderbird 3 (if you've upgraded). As the developer is no longer maintaining the program, an update is unlikely. http://pieces.openpolitics.com/2008/04/the-state-of-thunderbayes/ However, someone else has taken up the cause with ThunderBayes++ (experimental), and he's looking for volunteers: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/57801 Dale On 01/12/2010 2:39 PM, David Ansley wrote: > I'm using Thunderbird as my e-mail client. Will Thunderbayes work by > itself as an effective spam filter, or do I need to load Spambayes > first, then Thunderbayes? > > Thanks! > > David > From nicolas at columbiafrance.fr Thu Jan 14 10:14:09 2010 From: nicolas at columbiafrance.fr (Nicolas RICHARD) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 10:14:09 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Icon problem Message-ID: <3C77B33B0609DC4297C2D040F5F3107814421C@serveur.columbia.local> Hi, I'm french then I'll try to explain my problem in English. I had a problem with the icons who don't works, when I uninstall the log and install it, I had the same problem. I try to "right-click on the toolbar, choose "Customize", then select the SpamBayes toolbar and click "Delete".", uninstall and install again but the toolbar doesn't appear now ! I try to use SpamBayes in an admin session and all is fine. Could you help me please ? Many thanks for your soft. Best regards, Nicolas -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nicolas at columbiafrance.fr Thu Jan 14 10:43:05 2010 From: nicolas at columbiafrance.fr (Nicolas RICHARD) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 10:43:05 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] TR: Icon problem Message-ID: <3C77B33B0609DC4297C2D040F5F31078144221@serveur.columbia.local> Hi, All is ok : 1. Go to Help->About Microsoft Outlook. 2. Click the Disabled Items button. 3. Select SpamBayes. 4. Click Enable. 5. Restart Outlook Thank you, Nicolas De : nicolas richard Envoy? : jeudi 14 janvier 2010 10:14 ? : 'spambayes at python.org' Objet : Icon problem Hi, I'm french then I'll try to explain my problem in English. I had a problem with the icons who don't works, when I uninstall the log and install it, I had the same problem. I try to "right-click on the toolbar, choose "Customize", then select the SpamBayes toolbar and click "Delete".", uninstall and install again but the toolbar doesn't appear now ! I try to use SpamBayes in an admin session and all is fine. Could you help me please ? Many thanks for your soft. Best regards, Nicolas -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jjlm at sympatico.ca Thu Jan 14 22:44:52 2010 From: jjlm at sympatico.ca (jjlm at sympatico.ca) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 16:44:52 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Message-ID: If SpamBayes development project is still alive, I would suggest an option where it would be possible to send e-mails containing specific words in the title or the message body directly to the Deleted Items, without further analysis. For example, messages with VIAGRA in the title would be processed in that way. I am sick and tired of those e-mails ! I'm 43 and have no problems with... well, I'm sure you see... Many thanks for the product that I used daily in all my computers. Best regards, Luc Morin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vas at mpeks.tomsk.su Fri Jan 15 16:02:17 2010 From: vas at mpeks.tomsk.su (Victor Sudakov) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 21:02:17 +0600 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20100115150217.GA6619@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> jjlm at sympatico.ca wrote: > If SpamBayes development project is still alive, I would suggest an option > where it would be possible to send e-mails containing specific words in the > title or the message body directly to the Deleted Items, without further > analysis. For example, messages with VIAGRA in the title would be processed > in that way. Why don't you use mail processing rules in your mail client? All modern mail clients support more or less sophisticated rules which can filter by Subject, From, other header fields, body content etc. You will quickly get tired of updating your list of "spammy" words manually, but that's a different matter ;) -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov at sibptus.tomsk.ru From amedee at vangasse.eu Fri Jan 15 17:26:17 2010 From: amedee at vangasse.eu (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 17:26:17 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <20100115150217.GA6619@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> References: <20100115150217.GA6619@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Message-ID: <4B509729.4060604@vangasse.eu> On 15-01-10 16:02, Victor Sudakov wrote: > jjlm at sympatico.ca wrote: >> If SpamBayes development project is still alive, I would suggest an option >> where it would be possible to send e-mails containing specific words in the >> title or the message body directly to the Deleted Items, without further >> analysis. For example, messages with VIAGRA in the title would be processed >> in that way. > > Why don't you use mail processing rules in your mail client? All > modern mail clients support more or less sophisticated rules which can ^^^^^^ He uses Microsoft Outlook 11... (and you use Mutt) ;-) > filter by Subject, From, other header fields, body content etc. > > You will quickly get tired of updating your list of "spammy" words > manually, but that's a different matter ;) @Luc: there is no need to implement something in Spambayes if other software does that already. In your case you should take a look at http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HP052428971033.aspx or search the web for "Outlook rules". -- Amedee From vas at mpeks.tomsk.su Fri Jan 15 17:51:21 2010 From: vas at mpeks.tomsk.su (Victor Sudakov) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 22:51:21 +0600 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <4B509729.4060604@vangasse.eu> References: <20100115150217.GA6619@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4B509729.4060604@vangasse.eu> Message-ID: <20100115165121.GA7511@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Amedee Van Gasse wrote: > On 15-01-10 16:02, Victor Sudakov wrote: > >jjlm at sympatico.ca wrote: > >>If SpamBayes development project is still alive, I would suggest an option > >>where it would be possible to send e-mails containing specific words in > >>the > >>title or the message body directly to the Deleted Items, without further > >>analysis. For example, messages with VIAGRA in the title would be > >>processed > >>in that way. > > > >Why don't you use mail processing rules in your mail client? All > >modern mail clients support more or less sophisticated rules which can > ^^^^^^ > He uses Microsoft Outlook 11... (and you use Mutt) ;-) Microsoft Outlook 11 has very sophisticated and powerful rules, and Mutt has none at all. We poor Mutt users have to use procmail for mail filtering :-) -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov at sibptus.tomsk.ru From amedee at vangasse.eu Fri Jan 15 18:36:19 2010 From: amedee at vangasse.eu (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 18:36:19 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <20100115165121.GA7511@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> References: <20100115150217.GA6619@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4B509729.4060604@vangasse.eu> <20100115165121.GA7511@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Message-ID: <4B50A793.6060306@vangasse.eu> On 15-01-10 17:51, Victor Sudakov wrote: > Amedee Van Gasse wrote: >> On 15-01-10 16:02, Victor Sudakov wrote: >>> jjlm at sympatico.ca wrote: >>>> If SpamBayes development project is still alive, I would suggest an option >>>> where it would be possible to send e-mails containing specific words in >>>> the >>>> title or the message body directly to the Deleted Items, without further >>>> analysis. For example, messages with VIAGRA in the title would be >>>> processed >>>> in that way. >>> >>> Why don't you use mail processing rules in your mail client? All >>> modern mail clients support more or less sophisticated rules which can >> ^^^^^^ >> He uses Microsoft Outlook 11... (and you use Mutt) ;-) > > Microsoft Outlook 11 has very sophisticated and powerful rules, and Mutt > has none at all. We poor Mutt users have to use procmail for mail > filtering :-) > Do one thing only, and do that thing as good as possible. ;-) From skip at pobox.com Fri Jan 15 20:59:01 2010 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 13:59:01 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <19280.51461.91962.311326@montanaro.dyndns.org> Luc> For example, messages with VIAGRA in the title would be processed Luc> in that way. I am sick and tired of those e-mails ! In addition to what Viktor and Amedee wrote, unless you have mistakes in your training database training a few such messages as spam should serve to effectively eliminate those messages. In addition, you will provide other clues to the spam filter which you might otherwise miss. For example, suppose Spam King gets a contract to send out 50 million emails about Viagra and you are one of the unfortunate recipients of his missives. Besides the references to various spellings of that little blue pill his messages will almost certainly contain other clues which you probably won't notice (or won't be able to use in an Outlook filter if you did notice). SpamBayes will notice this stuff, clues such as the network it came from, the Unicode encoding of the message, whether it's HTML or plain text email, or the IP address range of the website(s) Spam King wants you to visit. You see some of these messages and train them as spam. Voila! No more little blue pill messages from Spam King. But it gets better. Now suppose S.K. gets a contract to advertise forged Vancouver Olympics tickets from some nefarious Nigerians (*), something you're unlikely to be interested in (even if they weren't forged) because while Vancouver is overrun by south-of-the-49th-parallel Americans all you want to do is take a two-week trip to Puerto Vallarta to get away from us . It's likely some of those other invisible-to-you clues are going to be in the new crop of spams. You might never see such messages because the invisible clues are powerful enough evidence that the message is spam all by themselves. Straight into the bit bucket they go and you can focus on fare sale emails for Puerto Vallarta getaways from Orbitz and Kayak. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.smontanaro.net/ (*) http://www.snopes.com/crime/fraud/nigeria.asp From durwin at abccd.net Sun Jan 17 20:49:57 2010 From: durwin at abccd.net (Durwin) Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 13:49:57 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes on Office 2007 Message-ID: <004501ca97ae$3fa0ffe0$bee2ffa0$@net> I tried to install Spambayes on Office Outlook 2007. It scanned fine and seemed to start up, but did not run - it just hung and the toolbar was unresponsive. It sure would be nice to get a version of Spambayes that works on Outlook 2007. Thanks, Durwin Sharp -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Have you read the FAQ? http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html Please read the part about troubleshooting. -- Amedee From Anthony.Green at uea.ac.uk Mon Jan 18 17:33:21 2010 From: Anthony.Green at uea.ac.uk (Anthony.Green at uea.ac.uk) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:33:21 -0000 (GMT) Subject: [Spambayes] Project Message-ID: <59964.86.138.232.165.1263832401.squirrel@webmail.uea.ac.uk> Hey guys, my name's Anthony Green and I'm a student at UEA, Norwich, UK. I'm currently doing a project on spam emails and am searching for filters to combine together as part of it, each of which I can train and then test on. SpamBayes looks great, but I need to know which commands to use to train it (but I can probably figure this one out from the documentation), but more importantly I need to be able to get results out at the end. Does SpamBayes have facilities to provide me with test results, either via a report after passing it some test emails, or modifying the test emails headers to provide me with a classification? If so, how do I use them? Sorry if I'm being too vague! I'm currently using the filter on Windows. Thanks for any help you can provide, Anthony Green From amedee at vangasse.eu Mon Jan 18 20:57:46 2010 From: amedee at vangasse.eu (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 20:57:46 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Spambayes] Project In-Reply-To: <59964.86.138.232.165.1263832401.squirrel@webmail.uea.ac.uk> References: <59964.86.138.232.165.1263832401.squirrel@webmail.uea.ac.uk> Message-ID: <1f905ce0d7cecb91036e519ec255ad05.squirrel@amedee.be> On Mon, January 18, 2010 17:33, Anthony.Green at uea.ac.uk wrote: > Hey guys, my name's Anthony Green and I'm a student at UEA, Norwich, UK. > I'm currently doing a project on spam emails and am searching for filters > to combine together as part of it, each of which I can train and then test > on. SpamBayes looks great, but I need to know which commands to use to > train it (but I can probably figure this one out from the documentation), > but more importantly I need to be able to get results out at the end. Does > SpamBayes have facilities to provide me with test results, either via a > report after passing it some test emails, or modifying the test emails > headers to provide me with a classification? If so, how do I use them? > Sorry if I'm being too vague! I'm currently using the filter on Windows. > > Thanks for any help you can provide, > > Anthony Green That's nice, I am also a student (evening classes at CVO Leerstad, Lokeren, Belgium) and I'm also doing a project on spam. Are you evaluating server-side antispam or client-side antispam? I am concentrating on server solutions: dspam, amavis, spamassassin, RBLs, greylisting,... I'm also trying to collect a large enough test set, if I get cooperation at work then I have a couple of million emails that I can test on. A local hosting company has agreed to lend me a test server for a couple of months. Well maybe, the details aren't clear yet. Perhaps we could compare notes? I think that international cooperation could be an enrichment for the both of us. -- Amedee Van Gasse Jabber: amedee at jabber.belnet.be From skip at pobox.com Mon Jan 18 21:04:08 2010 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:04:08 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Project In-Reply-To: <59964.86.138.232.165.1263832401.squirrel@webmail.uea.ac.uk> References: <59964.86.138.232.165.1263832401.squirrel@webmail.uea.ac.uk> Message-ID: <19284.48824.806687.83867@montanaro.dyndns.org> Anthony> SpamBayes looks great, but I need to know which commands to use Anthony> to train it (but I can probably figure this one out from the Anthony> documentation), but more importantly I need to be able to get Anthony> results out at the end. Does SpamBayes have facilities to Anthony> provide me with test results, either via a report after passing Anthony> it some test emails, or modifying the test emails headers to Anthony> provide me with a classification? You can do things a couple ways. SpamBayes can add a header to the email which contains the score, but you might find it more interesting to download the source distribution (a Subversion checkout is probably the easiest) and look in the testtools directory for ways to test the classifier with predefined sets of spam and ham. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.smontanaro.net/ From mr.dovi at gmail.com Thu Jan 21 13:23:12 2010 From: mr.dovi at gmail.com (mr.dovi at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 13:23:12 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] ThunderBayes continued for Thunderbird 3.x : ThunderBayes++ Message-ID: <4B584730.3040609@gmail.com> Hello, If you are looking for a working ThunderBayes under TB3.x I have created a new mod called ThunderBayes++ It has all the past features with bugfixes the integrated spambayes is upgraded to r3256 the portable python upgraded to 2.6 with more libs to support ZODB MySQL safepickle an integrated MySQL server for windows with Linux support supports Linux you can now browse the SpamBayes web interface without external browser and a few more changes Special thanks to Skip and Mark because the changes since SpamBayes 1.0.4 are wonderful, keep it up guys! https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/57801 -- |A. 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Thanks, Anthony Green From skip at pobox.com Wed Jan 27 19:38:51 2010 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 12:38:51 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Training & Testing In-Reply-To: <57898.86.139.49.178.1264599591.squirrel@webmail.uea.ac.uk> References: <57898.86.139.49.178.1264599591.squirrel@webmail.uea.ac.uk> Message-ID: <19296.34875.996477.303873@montanaro.dyndns.org> Anthony> Just a quick question about training and testing with Anthony> SpamBayes. Can the 'sb_filter.py' file be used to perform Anthony> training? Can the same file be used for testing, i.e. by Anthony> modifying headers of outputting results of a message that it Anthony> classifies? Also 'incremental.py' looks useful but how would Anthony> it be used at the command line? Yes, you can use sb_filter.py to train: % sb_filter.py --help SpamBayes Command Line Filter Version 1.1b1 (November 23, 2008) Usage: /Users/skip/local/bin/sb_filter.py [options] [filenames] Options can one or more of: -h show usage and exit -v show version and exit -x show some usage examples and exit ... * -t filter and train based on the result -- you must make sure to untrain all mistakes later. Not recommended. ... Not sure what incremental.py is used for. I haven't dug around in the testtools package for quite awhile. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.smontanaro.net/ From dian at mousetrax.com Thu Jan 28 23:20:33 2010 From: dian at mousetrax.com (Dian Chapman) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 16:20:33 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Bayes doesn't work with OL 2010 Message-ID: <000001caa068$1c446dd0$54cd4970$@com> Just attempted to install ver 1.0.4 to my new system running MS Office 2010 Technical Preview and thought you'd want to know that it cause OL to stop running. On a second attempt, OL did notify me that Spam Bayes was incompatible with the "Data Execution Prevention mode" (???) and that I should choose to disable Spam Bayes. I did and it works. Had to uninstall SB. Gonna miss it cos' it works much better than just the MS OL junk filter. Dian D. Chapman Technical Consultant & Microsoft MVP, MOS Certified Instructor, Editor/TechTrax Ezine, Technical Editor/Word & Office 2007 Bibles https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Dian.Chapman Dian's Soldiers' Site http://www.mousetrax.com/Angels Free Word Tricks eBook: http://www.mousetrax.com/books.html Learn VBA the easy way: http://www.mousetrax.com/techcourses.html Free Computer Tutorials: http://www.techtrax.us From skip at pobox.com Fri Jan 29 00:32:42 2010 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:32:42 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Bayes doesn't work with OL 2010 In-Reply-To: <000001caa068$1c446dd0$54cd4970$@com> References: <000001caa068$1c446dd0$54cd4970$@com> Message-ID: <19298.7834.277993.616920@montanaro.dyndns.org> Dian> On a second attempt, OL did notify me that Spam Bayes was Dian> incompatible with the "Data Execution Prevention mode" (???) FAQ 5.8? http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.smontanaro.net/ From TWynnell at vertical.com Fri Jan 29 17:52:02 2010 From: TWynnell at vertical.com (Taed Wynnell) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 08:52:02 -0800 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes 1.1a4 crashes when first starting up after reinstalling... Message-ID: After 6 months, this was resolved by disabling DEP for Outlook. (This is sent to the list so that others searching might find my answer.) In expectation of this day, I still have all my saved Spam for the last 10 years (49,313 items), so retraining and getting back to where I used to be was no problem. And, of course, the solution is sitting right in the FAQ: 5.8 After installing SpamBayes, Outlook crashes and then asks for the plug-in to be disabled. Are you using an Athlon 64 or Core 2 Duo with DEP? There are issues with DEP and Outlook with a SpamBayes-based plug-in. Listing Outlook as a safe application on these processors should "solve" the problem. ________________________________ From: Taed Wynnell Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 3:59 PM To: 'spambayes at python.org' Subject: RE: SpamBayes 1.1a4 crashes when first starting up after reinstalling... I still haven't been able to get any farther on this, despite a few more attempts. Is there some way to at least get a dump file so that I would look at the crash in WinDbg and hopefully find an obvious problem? ________________________________ From: Taed Wynnell Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 10:44 AM To: 'spambayes at python.org' Subject: SpamBayes 1.1a4 crashes when first starting up after reinstalling... I just got a new machine running Windows XP SP 3 and Outlook 2003. Both are completely updated. I first installed SpamBayes 1.0.4, and that went fine, but I ran into an old bug, so I decided to install 1.1a4 (which I should have just done from the start). When Outlook restarts, the SpamBayes Outlook COM object is disabled, and just re-enabling it does not work. So, I have to Add it back in. Once I do that, it then crashes Outlook with the following. I can't get any more crash information since the "more information" can't be cut-and-pasted and I can't find any info stored in a file. AppName: outlook.exe AppVer: 11.0.8217.0 AppStamp:480f95d9 ModName: unknown ModVer: 0.0.0.0 ModStamp:00000000 fDebug: 0 Offset: 119cf550 The SPAMBAYES1.LOG contains only: Registered: SpamBayes.OutlookAddin Registration complete. I have tried a number of times to uninstall it (and even hunted down and deleted all references to "SpamBayes" in filenames and the Registry), but I still get the same crash. I feel that I'm not completely cleaning up since the SpamBayes Outlook COM object is always disabled after I uninstall and then reinstall it. Does anyone have any assistance to offer? I've tried everything that I can think of. 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Still no joy. I have verified that the COM control was available, yet it still fails. Do you have any suggestions? I love SpamBayes and have used it for years. But now, it just wont work. Thanks, John VanSickle (480) 326-0410 johnvansickle at cox.net BTW, I do computer service for a living, so I am very capable with a computer. You don't have to dumb down your answers for me. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skippy.hammond at gmail.com Sun Jan 31 05:45:41 2010 From: skippy.hammond at gmail.com (Mark Hammond) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 15:45:41 +1100 Subject: [Spambayes] Using SpamBayes In-Reply-To: <000001ca9d61$07650550$162f0ff0$@net> References: <000001ca9d61$07650550$162f0ff0$@net> Message-ID: <4B650AF5.5010104@gmail.com> On 25/01/2010 12:52 PM, Mark Sciora wrote: > I have two questions regarding use of this excellent product: > > 1) Can the default folder for the SpamBayes *.db and *.ini files be > moved, and the program reconfigured to point to the new location? You can edit the 'default_configuration.ini' file and add a 'data_directory' option in the [general] section to allow the db files to be anywhere you like. > 2) Can SpamBayes be configured to work with multiple profiles in Outlook > 2007 running on Win XP Pro SP3? The outlook prefs are stored in a filename which includes the name of the profile (so the particular folders to watch etc are specific to the profile) - however, all profiles will share the same training database. HTH, Mark