From lrsmith22 at verizon.net Thu May 1 17:43:57 2008 From: lrsmith22 at verizon.net (Randall Smith) Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 10:43:57 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes problem Message-ID: <000601c8aba2$2d350440$2f01a8c0@randys8juq6vmx> The messages have spam, or unsure, added to the Subject and To lines of the message but the messages are not sorted into Possible Junk or Junk folders created in local folders of Outlook Express. What do I need to do to get the messages sorted correctly? I'm checking for new email thru Outlook Express. Then checking Spambayes. Everything for training is there and seems to work. All is fine except for the sorting thanks Randy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From info at moomna.com Fri May 2 00:48:24 2008 From: info at moomna.com (Moomna Inc.) Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 03:48:24 +0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Removed Email address from our list Message-ID: <20080501224839.BB5521E4002@bag.python.org> Sir, As per your request, your email address is removed from our email list, we are very much sorry for any inconvenience. Please give us few days before your removal take effect. Spam Controller, Moomna Inc. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ctboyd at ezlink.ca Sat May 3 13:19:57 2008 From: ctboyd at ezlink.ca (Cathy Boyd) Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 07:19:57 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Mail Delivery (failure Message-ID: <000501c8ad0f$9f216620$04a5cb42@your8wm49vfcv9> I did not receive my confirmation number the e-mail address was taken wrong you had ctboyd at ezedlink.ca it is not that it is ctboyd at ezlink.ca hope to receive my confirmation soon. Gladys Boyd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kissthegeezer at cqservices.com Sat May 3 20:49:18 2008 From: kissthegeezer at cqservices.com (The Geezer) Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 14:49:18 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] I have MSN Hotmail Message-ID: <000501c8ad4e$6715dec0$3d714b0c@com> I would like to download your Spam Blocker. Thank You I have MSN Hotmail From skip at pobox.com Sat May 3 22:18:55 2008 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 15:18:55 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] I have MSN Hotmail In-Reply-To: <000501c8ad4e$6715dec0$3d714b0c@com> References: <000501c8ad4e$6715dec0$3d714b0c@com> Message-ID: <18460.51375.400656.321970@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> >> I would like to download your Spam Blocker. I have MSN Hotmail Unless MSN Hotmail supports POP3 or IMAP SpamBayes won't work with it. Even then it depends on the quality of the support for those protocols. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ "There's a fine line between a hobby and a mental illness." Ande Rasmussen From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Mon May 5 13:29:41 2008 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 07:29:41 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with Spambayes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Make sure you have DEP turned off. From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Eric Rossiter Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 5:31 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with Spambayes I sent the following email some time ago and have not seen it appear in the Spambayes Digest. I'm not sure if I'm sending it to the right address. Any help would be much appreciated Hello, I have a small network of 10 PC's running off a Microsoft small business server 2003 Most installations went with out a hitch and work fine however three PC have a problem. The problem is as follows Having installed Spambayes whenever I click on the Spambayes button to select the manager menu I get a message saying Outlook has to close and do I want to send a report. It doesn't matter if I say send report of don't send report the result is the same....Outlook shuts down and instantly reopens. i.e I cannot open the manu Exactly the same thing happens if I highlight an email to train as spam. OR to untrained as spam from the junk-email folder...... Outlook comes up with the same "about to close" message. when i click the button it then closes down and reopens immediately. The training or untraining is carried out. I have uninstalled and reinstalled outlook. I have downloaded the latest updates of outlook and Office. I have uninstalled and re installed Spambayes. But its still there The computers are HP Compaq mostly Pentium 4 or Dual core. All running Windows XP 2002, SP2 Any help would be appreciated Regards Eric Rossiter [cid:image001.gif at 01C8AE7D.13F0C3B0] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.gif Type: image/gif Size: 68605 bytes Desc: image001.gif URL: From susanutman at earthlink.net Mon May 5 20:27:59 2008 From: susanutman at earthlink.net (Susan Utman) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 11:27:59 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Message-ID: I am trying to remove the spambayes program from my pc (windows XP). I have uninstalled it, but I got a message saying that some of it remains and needs to be manually uninstalled. I am still getting the filtering on my Outlook program. When I click "programs" it doesn't appear in my list of installed programs-it is also not appearing when I click "c" drive-only when I do an advanced search does it appear and then I get a message that I can't manually adjust this program-help-how do I get rid of this completely?? SusanUtman -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From atmco at familynet.net Wed May 7 00:42:13 2008 From: atmco at familynet.net (Gary Nelson) Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 17:42:13 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Trouble with Spambayes Message-ID: <02a501c8afca$6d922cd0$3201a8c0@gary> Hi, I've read and tried to do what you are asking in the trouble-shooting guide and still have problems. Can you get into my system, or walk me through it. I am not getting it to work. Thanks for your help. Gary D Nelson EA A Tax Management Co (ATMCo) 2220 W. Houston Suite A Broken Arrow, OK 74012 Phone: 918-258-2779 Fax: 918-258--2782 Web Site: www.atmco.net No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.9/1416 - Release Date: 5/5/2008 5:11 PM From atmco at familynet.net Wed May 7 00:59:01 2008 From: atmco at familynet.net (Gary Nelson) Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 17:59:01 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Problems Message-ID: <02a601c8afcc$c873f190$3201a8c0@gary> I am using XP, I have had Spaybayes working for about a year and it has stopped working. I have attempted to follow your instructions and get no where. I am not an IT guy. Can this get to someone who talks, calls and can fix it? Gary D Nelson EA A Tax Management Co (ATMCo) 2220 W. Houston Suite A Broken Arrow, OK 74012 Phone: 918-258-2779 Fax: 918-258--2782 Web Site: www.atmco.net No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.9/1416 - Release Date: 5/5/2008 5:11 PM From amedee at amedee.be Wed May 7 12:57:50 2008 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 12:57:50 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Spambayes] Problems In-Reply-To: <02a601c8afcc$c873f190$3201a8c0@gary> References: <02a601c8afcc$c873f190$3201a8c0@gary> Message-ID: <51997.193.121.250.194.1210157870.squirrel@intrepid.warp.be> On Wed, May 7, 2008 00:59, Gary Nelson wrote: > I am using XP, I have had Spaybayes working for about a year and it has > stopped working. I have attempted to follow your instructions and get no > where. I am not an IT guy. Can this get to someone who talks, calls and > can fix it? For those of you who want to help Gary: he mails with the following software: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6822 That is probably Outlook XP (2003 = version 11) and he probably uses SpamBayes as Outlook plugin. @Gary: SpamBayes is not backed by a company but by a group of individuals spread around the globe. A lot of people don't live in your time zone (it's noon here in Belgium, I'm on my lunch break at work and I use my free time to check my mail) so phone support may be almost impossible. Anyway traditionally email support (mailing list) has always been the preferred method of support for these kind of collaborative projects. I understand that this is awkward for non-IT-people, but it has benefits: the next person who has the same problem as you, can read your email and learn from it, without even having to ask questions in the first place. Or someone can refer him/her to a previous answer. This speeds things up a lot, especially for unpaid volunteers. Concerning your problem: sorry, I don't use Outlook. But the Documentation describes where and how to find a log file: http://spambayes.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/*checkout*/spambayes/trunk/spambayes/Outlook2000/docs/troubleshooting.html#CheckLog Check this file for more details about your problem, and please ask again on the mailing list if you need help with the log file. Also, please give a very detailed step-by-step description of your problem, and anything you have done so far to try to fix it. -- Amedee From NYJB164 at aol.com Wed May 7 13:46:18 2008 From: NYJB164 at aol.com (NYJB164 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 07:46:18 EDT Subject: [Spambayes] Thank you for contacting goZing Surveys! Message-ID: I'm trying to login to the webpage to see my account, but can't seem to view any pages from go-zing site. My member name is jb3stripes. Thank you. **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From amedee at amedee.be Wed May 7 14:52:30 2008 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 14:52:30 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Spambayes] Problems In-Reply-To: <7E7A6B4695334D84B29BFD42F51520E6@PCdeFrederiqu> References: <02a601c8afcc$c873f190$3201a8c0@gary> <51997.193.121.250.194.1210157870.squirrel@intrepid.warp.be> <7E7A6B4695334D84B29BFD42F51520E6@PCdeFrederiqu> Message-ID: <29431.193.121.250.194.1210164750.squirrel@intrepid.warp.be> Fr?d?rique, Je ne vous envoie aucun email, c'est la liste courriel spambayes at python.org qui fait ?a, et vous ?tes souscrit sur ca liste. Vous l'avez fait vous-m?me, ou quelqu'un qui a utilis? votre addresse courriel. Chaque email de la liste contient information pour vous d?souscrire: >> Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes S'il vous plait, voyez l? l'information que vous demandez. Je vous demande aussi de ne m'envoyer plus personellement des emails, mais de les envoyer vers la liste. Et excusez-moi aussi pour ne pas ?crire parfaitement en Fran?ais. Je fais des efforts mais ?a fait maintenant plus qu'un an que j'ai ?crit des courriels en Fran?ais - et dans ma vie quotidienne je n'ai presque aucun contact avec des francophones. Cordialement, Amedee Van Gasse On Wed, May 7, 2008 13:08, Fr?d?rique Mora wrote: > i dont speak english > why do you every time sent to me your i mail it is disturbing me a lot > if our are sombody nice, please stop this way of send > thanck > frederique > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Amedee Van Gasse" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:57 PM > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Problems > > >> >> On Wed, May 7, 2008 00:59, Gary Nelson wrote: >>> I am using XP, I have had Spaybayes working for about a year and it has >>> stopped working. I have attempted to follow your instructions and get >>> no >>> where. I am not an IT guy. Can this get to someone who talks, calls >>> and >>> can fix it? >> >> For those of you who want to help Gary: he mails with the following >> software: >> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6822 >> That is probably Outlook XP (2003 = version 11) and he probably uses >> SpamBayes as Outlook plugin. >> >> @Gary: SpamBayes is not backed by a company but by a group of >> individuals >> spread around the globe. A lot of people don't live in your time zone >> (it's noon here in Belgium, I'm on my lunch break at work and I use my >> free time to check my mail) so phone support may be almost impossible. >> Anyway traditionally email support (mailing list) has always been the >> preferred method of support for these kind of collaborative projects. I >> understand that this is awkward for non-IT-people, but it has benefits: >> the next person who has the same problem as you, can read your email and >> learn from it, without even having to ask questions in the first place. >> Or >> someone can refer him/her to a previous answer. This speeds things up a >> lot, especially for unpaid volunteers. >> >> Concerning your problem: sorry, I don't use Outlook. But the >> Documentation >> describes where and how to find a log file: >> http://spambayes.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/*checkout*/spambayes/trunk/spambayes/Outlook2000/docs/troubleshooting.html#CheckLog >> Check this file for more details about your problem, and please ask >> again >> on the mailing list if you need help with the log file. >> Also, please give a very detailed step-by-step description of your >> problem, and anything you have done so far to try to fix it. >> >> -- >> Amedee >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SpamBayes at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes >> Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes >> Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > > -- Amedee Van Gasse amedee at amedee.be Disclaimer: By sending an email to ANY of my addresses you are agreeing that: 1. I am by definition, "the intended recipient" 2. All information in the email is mine to do with as I see fit and make such financial profit, political mileage, or good joke as it lends itself to. In particular, I may quote it on usenet. 3. I may take the contents as representing the views of your company. 4. This overrides any disclaimer or statement of confidentiality that may be included on your message. From SRich at posr.com Thu May 8 17:35:58 2008 From: SRich at posr.com (Suzanne Rich) Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 08:35:58 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem deleting spam Message-ID: <1BB404FF82B6A5459848CB68F5599A7402A888DF@posr-db01.posr.com> Hello, I have been using your Spam filter for a few weeks and absolutely LOVE it. I was receiving around 500 junk e-mails a day and your filter catches most of them. Everything has been working great until last week. The tool bar for spam stopped working. I have un-installed and re-installed the software and this works until I use the "spam delete" button a few times then it stops working again. I have read your "Help" instructions and have gone into delete the spam filter off the tool bar then close and re-open Outlook. This worked for a moment but then stopped working again. I tried to follow your instruction in the help file below: If all else fails, you can completely reset the Outlook toolbars by removing the file \Documents and Settings\{username}\Application Data\Microsoft\Outlook\outcmd.dat. I followed this path all the way through "Microsoft" but there was no Outlook folder or outcmnd.dat file. I even did a search for "outcmnd.dat" but nothing was found. I also made sure that my files and folders were not hidden. I am using Windows XP Proff and my version of Spam Bayes is 1.0.4. The only thing that I have done different in my Outlook since I started using Spam Bayes is move in-box & sent e-mails to another folder and change the view. Could this have created a problem? The problem started happening sometime after I did this. I would greatly appreciate your help Suzanne Rich Account Executive POS Resources 916-369-7990 X 115 From will.krause at greenville.edu Thu May 8 22:36:39 2008 From: will.krause at greenville.edu (Will Krause) Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 15:36:39 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes for Web Access client Message-ID: <0A1FB7B299E67E41A24BD4939D4E655C1B2D78138F@exchange.greenville.edu> Does Spambayes work for Outlook Web Access client running on Firefox? Will Krause -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From amedee at amedee.be Fri May 9 09:28:17 2008 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 09:28:17 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Spambayes] Problem deleting spam In-Reply-To: <1BB404FF82B6A5459848CB68F5599A7402A888DF@posr-db01.posr.com> References: <1BB404FF82B6A5459848CB68F5599A7402A888DF@posr-db01.posr.com> Message-ID: <59892.193.121.250.194.1210318097.squirrel@intrepid.warp.be> On Thu, May 8, 2008 17:35, Suzanne Rich wrote: > The only thing that I have done different in my Outlook since I started > using Spam Bayes is move in-box & sent e-mails to another folder > and change the view. > Could this have created a problem? The problem started happening > sometime after I did this. The changing of views doesn't matter, but the moving of in-box might have caused a problem. Go to the Spambayes manager in the Outlook plugin, second tab, and check the configured folders. I think you will have to change things there. -- Amedee From jklubertanz at comcast.net Fri May 9 20:46:39 2008 From: jklubertanz at comcast.net (Jim Klubertanz) Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 13:46:39 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Question Message-ID: I sometimes inadvertently manually recover "from spam" a ham message. Is there an easy way to "un train" that mistake for future mail from the same email address? Thanks, Jim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skip at pobox.com Fri May 9 21:39:46 2008 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 14:39:46 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <18468.43138.636304.702839@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> Jim> I sometimes inadvertently manually recover "from spam" a ham Jim> message. Is there an easy way to "un train" that mistake for Jim> future mail from the same email address? I think you can simply mark that email as spam again. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ "Be different, express yourself like everyone else." From mswall at ucdavis.edu Sat May 10 01:42:13 2008 From: mswall at ucdavis.edu (Michael Wall) Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 16:42:13 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes causing delays Message-ID: <18BCB417A5DF9E47B95A8B38C892671C045F8E3B@ramses.ucde.ucdavis.edu> I have been investigating an issue that seems to be pointing at Spambayes, but I am not 100% sure yet. When Spambayes 1.04 is installed on an Windows XP SP2 system, with Outlook 2007, I am getting lots of user reports about delays. They receive a notification that says "Outlook is retrieving data from the Exchange server" and they have to wait until that notification goes away . This sometimes happens when they are opening a note, or when they are changing from one mail folder to another, or when doing various other things in Outlook. It doesn't always happen. It cannot be reproduced by performing certain actions. So far, removing Spambayes seems to have resolved the issue, although I need to track it for a few more days. Have you had any other reports like this? Michael S. Wall System Administrator UC Davis Extension University of California Davis, CA 95618 530-757-8559 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skip at pobox.com Sat May 10 14:06:59 2008 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 07:06:59 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes causing delays In-Reply-To: <18BCB417A5DF9E47B95A8B38C892671C045F8E3B@ramses.ucde.ucdavis.edu> References: <18BCB417A5DF9E47B95A8B38C892671C045F8E3B@ramses.ucde.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <18469.36835.181937.453024@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> Michael> I have been investigating an issue that seems to be pointing at Michael> Spambayes, but I am not 100% sure yet. When Spambayes 1.04 is Michael> installed on an Windows XP SP2 system, with Outlook 2007, I am Michael> getting lots of user reports about delays.... Have you had any Michael> other reports like this? No, we don't generally get reports of slowness. However, SpamBayes performance is dependent on the number and size of mails being classified at one time the size and type of the training database and to the way it is used. Do you know any of these parameters for your users? * Are they using local or network storage? * Do they tend to start and stop Outlook frequently (thus causing it to process a bunch of email at startup) or do they leave it running (so it processes emails as they arrive one-by-one)? * Are they using a Python pickle file to hold their training database (read once into memory at startup) or are they using one of the hash file options (file accessed as SpamBayes runs)? * How many ham and spam emails are in their training databases? Tens? Hundreds? Thousands? Some people get carried away and train on every email they receive resulting in enormous databases. While the training data are stored in hash files or in Python dictionaries, there is still a higher cost to looking up words in large databases. Retraining from scratch and only training on mistakes and unsures should help keep their database sizes manageable. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ "Be different, express yourself like everyone else." From lucassp at btinternet.com Sat May 10 16:53:16 2008 From: lucassp at btinternet.com (Steve Lucas) Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 15:53:16 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Severe error Message-ID: <000001c8b2ad$948f3a40$bdadaec0$@com> Hi, When I start Outlook I get a warning message saying that the SpamBayes add in has cause a serious error. I have been experiencing no noticeable problems and then this message appeared. The message advised me to disable the add in and seek an update to put the problem right; but I have no idea what it is. I agreed, by clicking ok, to allow Outlook to disable Spambayes and this is the current state. Please could you advise me on what to do next? Thanks, Steve.. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skip at pobox.com Sat May 10 18:43:52 2008 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 11:43:52 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Severe error In-Reply-To: <000001c8b2ad$948f3a40$bdadaec0$@com> References: <000001c8b2ad$948f3a40$bdadaec0$@com> Message-ID: <18469.53448.815169.993078@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> Steve> When I start Outlook I get a warning message saying that the Steve> SpamBayes add in has cause a serious error. I have been Steve> experiencing no noticeable problems and then this message Steve> appeared. The message advised me to disable the add in and seek Steve> an update to put the problem right; but I have no idea what it Steve> is. I agreed, by clicking ok, to allow Outlook to disable Steve> Spambayes and this is the current state. Please could you advise Steve> me on what to do next? Locate the SpamBayes log file and see if it gives any clues. If it contains DB_RUNRECOVERY then your training database is corrupt. In that case you'll need to delete your training database and retrain from scratch. Also, search the SpamBayes docs for clues: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/docs.html Especially helpful should be the Outlook plugin troubleshooting guide and the frequently asked questions page: http://spambayes.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/*checkout*/spambayes/trunk/spambayes/Outlook2000/docs/troubleshooting.html http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ "Be different, express yourself like everyone else." From skip at pobox.com Sat May 10 22:58:22 2008 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 15:58:22 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Severe error In-Reply-To: <000001c8b2ce$469b5050$d3d1f0f0$@com> References: <000001c8b2ad$948f3a40$bdadaec0$@com> <18469.53448.815169.993078@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> <000001c8b2ce$469b5050$d3d1f0f0$@com> Message-ID: <18470.3182.843013.174658@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> Steve> All this goes a little over my head but I did look for the files Steve> and could not find them. So I uninstalled SpamBayes and Steve> downloaded version 1.04 and installed that. I know I will have to Steve> start teaching again but I should not have any problems now, he Steve> said hopefully? Steve, What version had you been running previously? 1.0.4 is itself pretty old. The test release, 1.1a4, though it is marked as a test release, is actually pretty stable. You might want to give that a try. Skip From lucassp at btinternet.com Sat May 10 23:51:42 2008 From: lucassp at btinternet.com (Steve Lucas) Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 22:51:42 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Severe error In-Reply-To: <18470.3182.843013.174658@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> References: <000001c8b2ad$948f3a40$bdadaec0$@com> <18469.53448.815169.993078@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> <000001c8b2ce$469b5050$d3d1f0f0$@com> <18470.3182.843013.174658@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> Message-ID: <000001c8b2e8$08b251c0$1a16f540$@com> Skip, I'm not sure which version was actually running but I had two set up files SpamBayes 1.0.4 and 1.1a3. I tried to download 1.1a4 but when I clicked on the link I ended with an advert for a WI-FI detecting Tee Shirt? So I gave up. Do you have a reliable link to download from? Thanks, Steve.. -----Original Message----- From: skip at pobox.com [mailto:skip at pobox.com] Sent: 10 May 2008 21:58 To: Steve Lucas Cc: spambayes at python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Severe error Steve> All this goes a little over my head but I did look for the files Steve> and could not find them. So I uninstalled SpamBayes and Steve> downloaded version 1.04 and installed that. I know I will have to Steve> start teaching again but I should not have any problems now, he Steve> said hopefully? Steve, What version had you been running previously? 1.0.4 is itself pretty old. The test release, 1.1a4, though it is marked as a test release, is actually pretty stable. You might want to give that a try. Skip From skip at pobox.com Sat May 10 23:56:00 2008 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 16:56:00 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Severe error In-Reply-To: <000001c8b2e8$08b251c0$1a16f540$@com> References: <000001c8b2ad$948f3a40$bdadaec0$@com> <18469.53448.815169.993078@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> <000001c8b2ce$469b5050$d3d1f0f0$@com> <18470.3182.843013.174658@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> <000001c8b2e8$08b251c0$1a16f540$@com> Message-ID: <18470.6640.626202.101730@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> Steve> I tried to download 1.1a4 but when I clicked on the link I ended Steve> with an advert for a WI-FI detecting Tee Shirt? So I gave up. Do Steve> you have a reliable link to download from? That link should work: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/spambayes/spambayes-1.1a4-070629.exe?download It should pop up a little download dialog within a couple seconds. Skip From lucassp at btinternet.com Sun May 11 00:33:28 2008 From: lucassp at btinternet.com (Steve Lucas) Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 23:33:28 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Severe error In-Reply-To: <18470.6640.626202.101730@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> References: <000001c8b2ad$948f3a40$bdadaec0$@com> <18469.53448.815169.993078@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> <000001c8b2ce$469b5050$d3d1f0f0$@com> <18470.3182.843013.174658@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> <000001c8b2e8$08b251c0$1a16f540$@com> <18470.6640.626202.101730@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> Message-ID: <000001c8b2ed$de507ff0$9af17fd0$@com> Hi Skip, The link worked just fine, thanks. I have installed the new version; I will let you know how it performs for me over the coming weeks. Thanks for all your help, it is much appreciated. Regards, Steve.. -----Original Message----- From: skip at pobox.com [mailto:skip at pobox.com] Sent: 10 May 2008 22:56 To: Steve Lucas Cc: spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Severe error Steve> I tried to download 1.1a4 but when I clicked on the link I ended Steve> with an advert for a WI-FI detecting Tee Shirt? So I gave up. Do Steve> you have a reliable link to download from? That link should work: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/spambayes/spambayes-1.1a4-070629.exe?down load It should pop up a little download dialog within a couple seconds. Skip From amedee at amedee.be Sun May 11 14:32:39 2008 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 14:32:39 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes causing delays In-Reply-To: <18BCB417A5DF9E47B95A8B38C892671C045F8E3B@ramses.ucde.ucdavis.edu> References: <18BCB417A5DF9E47B95A8B38C892671C045F8E3B@ramses.ucde.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <59265.81.82.1.232.1210509159.squirrel@intrepid.warp.be> On Sat, May 10, 2008 01:42, Michael Wall wrote: > I have been investigating an issue that seems to be pointing at > Spambayes, but I am not 100% sure yet. When Spambayes 1.04 is installed > on an Windows XP SP2 system, with Outlook 2007, I am getting lots of > user reports about delays. They receive a notification that says > "Outlook is retrieving data from the Exchange server" and they have to > wait until that notification goes away . This sometimes happens when > they are opening a note, or when they are changing from one mail folder > to another, or when doing various other things in Outlook. It doesn't > always happen. It cannot be reproduced by performing certain actions. > So far, removing Spambayes seems to have resolved the issue, although I > need to track it for a few more days. Have you had any other reports > like this? I have seen exactly the same issues on Outlook 2003 + Exchange 2003 + WinXPsp2, without SpamBayes. In our case, Outlook users pasted a screenshot in an TNEF email (what Microsoft officially calls RTF), send to an Outlook Web Access (OWA) user, and they forward the email back to an Oulook user. Result: 1. the email format changed from TNEF/RTF to HTML 2. the screenshot is not visible any more 3. Outlook gives a delay when you try to open that email, or when you open the folder where said email is at the top and preview is active 4. Sometimes the user is asked for his internet (proxy) login/password. I'm quite sure that in our case it isn't Spambayes related, because where I work I am the only Spambayes user. OK, I'm not sure about the +100K email users around the globe, but I'm pretty sure when I'm talking about the 3K users at the local site. -- Amedee From offers05 at lavabit.com Sun May 11 20:53:09 2008 From: offers05 at lavabit.com (Nat) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 08:53:09 -1000 Subject: [Spambayes] CAN SPAM BAYES BE USED WITH MULTIPLE EMAIL ADDRESSES? Message-ID: <2be801c8b398$42addab0$5fe20842@NathansNotebook> Can spambayes be used with multiple email addresses? Do I have to do anything extra in setting it up? Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rojo.editor at verizon.net Sun May 11 21:35:31 2008 From: rojo.editor at verizon.net (Joel Rosenthal) Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 15:35:31 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] CAN SPAM BAYES BE USED WITH MULTIPLE EMAIL ADDRESSES? In-Reply-To: <2be801c8b398$42addab0$5fe20842@NathansNotebook> References: <2be801c8b398$42addab0$5fe20842@NathansNotebook> Message-ID: <016f01c8b39e$2d36f440$87a4dcc0$@editor@verizon.net> If your e-mail client combines mail from more than one e-mail address, I can tell you from experience that it works just as it does with a single e-mail address. If you use different identities, I see no reason that SpamBayes wouldn't work. Joel From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Nat Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 2:53 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] CAN SPAM BAYES BE USED WITH MULTIPLE EMAIL ADDRESSES? Can spambayes be used with multiple email addresses? Do I have to do anything extra in setting it up? Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jsp at PKC.com Mon May 12 14:00:05 2008 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 08:00:05 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes for Web Access client In-Reply-To: <0A1FB7B299E67E41A24BD4939D4E655C1B2D78138F@exchange.greenville.edu> References: <0A1FB7B299E67E41A24BD4939D4E655C1B2D78138F@exchange.greenville.edu> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F906AF27B2@PKCVT01.pkc.com> I don't think so. SpamBayes gets hooked into a e-mail client (or between the client and server), but when you use the Outlook web interface, there is no e-mail client, just a Web client. The server generates HTML sent to the browser and interprets the browser's requests, but that's HTTP traffic, not IMAP or POP3. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Will Krause Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 4:37 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes for Web Access client Does Spambayes work for Outlook Web Access client running on Firefox? Will Krause -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skip at pobox.com Mon May 12 15:56:34 2008 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 08:56:34 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes for Web Access client In-Reply-To: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F906AF27B2@PKCVT01.pkc.com> References: <0A1FB7B299E67E41A24BD4939D4E655C1B2D78138F@exchange.greenville.edu> <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F906AF27B2@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Message-ID: <18472.19602.638965.50330@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> Jesse> I don't think so. SpamBayes gets hooked into a e-mail client (or Jesse> between the client and server), but when you use the Outlook web Jesse> interface, there is no e-mail client, just a Web client. The Jesse> server generates HTML sent to the browser and interprets the Jesse> browser's requests, but that's HTTP traffic, not IMAP or POP3. Hmmm... This does suggest a way you might get this to work, though it will take some development work. A long time ago I wrote a SpamBayes plugin for Amit Patel's proxy3 web proxy. The idea was to use SpamBayes to score web pages with the intention that you could (for example) keep your six-year-old from (accidentally?) visiting porn websites. You could do something similar for web-based email clients. Just divert the traffic for your web client through a suitable http proxy with a SpamBayes plugin. My initial code is in the SpamBayes repository in contrib/mod_spambayes.py. Like I said though, it will require some work to turn this into a proper spam filter. Any takers? Skip From will.krause at greenville.edu Mon May 12 16:12:44 2008 From: will.krause at greenville.edu (Will Krause) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 09:12:44 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes for Web Access client In-Reply-To: <18472.19602.638965.50330@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> References: <0A1FB7B299E67E41A24BD4939D4E655C1B2D78138F@exchange.greenville.edu> <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F906AF27B2@PKCVT01.pkc.com> <18472.19602.638965.50330@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> Message-ID: <0A1FB7B299E67E41A24BD4939D4E655C1B2D7815D3@exchange.greenville.edu> Skip, Jesse, Thanks for the response. It's nice to know that there is someone out there who really does care about keeping end users informed. You guys are great! Will Krause VP for Technology & Planning Greenville College 315 E. College Ave. Greenville, IL 62246 (618) 664-7070 (office) (618) 795-1000 (cell) -----Original Message----- From: skip at pobox.com [mailto:skip at pobox.com] Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 8:57 AM To: Jesse Pelton Cc: Will Krause; spambayes at python.org; spambayes-dev at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Spambayes for Web Access client Jesse> I don't think so. SpamBayes gets hooked into a e-mail client (or Jesse> between the client and server), but when you use the Outlook web Jesse> interface, there is no e-mail client, just a Web client. The Jesse> server generates HTML sent to the browser and interprets the Jesse> browser's requests, but that's HTTP traffic, not IMAP or POP3. Hmmm... This does suggest a way you might get this to work, though it will take some development work. A long time ago I wrote a SpamBayes plugin for Amit Patel's proxy3 web proxy. The idea was to use SpamBayes to score web pages with the intention that you could (for example) keep your six-year-old from (accidentally?) visiting porn websites. You could do something similar for web-based email clients. Just divert the traffic for your web client through a suitable http proxy with a SpamBayes plugin. My initial code is in the SpamBayes repository in contrib/mod_spambayes.py. Like I said though, it will require some work to turn this into a proper spam filter. Any takers? Skip From Irena at NABOR.com Mon May 12 17:38:06 2008 From: Irena at NABOR.com (Irena Suput) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 11:38:06 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook locks up with SpamBayes enabled Message-ID: Hi! I've looked through the documentation available and was unable to find anything about this issue, so I apologize if it has been covered somewhere already. If you can point me to that place, I would appreciate it. I have been running SpamBayes for a long time and it has been amazing! Lately however, it seems to "lock" Outlook (shows the "Not Responding" message) for a number of seconds while it filters the message. During that time, if I am in the middle of typing a new message, it will stall and not allow me to type (if I keep typing, I'll see the typed text when the message is filtered and Outlook is "released"). If I try to access another folder or try to access a message in my Inbox, I won't be able to. Even when I go to open SpamBayes, everything gets locked up until the interface opens, which takes between 10-15 seconds, sometimes longer. Changing between tabs in the SpamBayes manager "locks" up the interface, releasing it after 10+ seconds and opening the contents of the clicked tab. Closing out of SpamBayes manager behaves the same. With SpamBayes disabled, I do not experience these "locking" issues with Outlook. I have no other intensive applications running and the memory only spikes when Outlook/SpamBayes locks up. I do have a warning in the SpamBayes manager that tells me that I have much more spam than ham (382 ham vs. 5255 spam). The SpamBayes database, located in AppData\Roaming\SpamBayes, is over 10MB. I am running Vista Business 32 bit OS with Intel Core 2 CPU, 2046MB RAM. I am running Outlook 2007. Exchange 2003. SpamBayes 1.0.4. I have restarted both Outlook and my computer numerous times. I have also deleted all messages from my Junk email folder. Please let me know what I could do to get SpamBayes back to behaving "normally". I appreciate your help Irena Suput -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From Irena at NABOR.com Mon May 12 18:23:29 2008 From: Irena at NABOR.com (Irena Suput) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 12:23:29 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook locks up with SpamBayes enabled In-Reply-To: <18472.28298.240397.242653@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> References: <18472.28298.240397.242653@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> Message-ID: Skip, Thank you for your response. I don't believe this is the case. My mail "profile" (for lack of a better term to use) has not changed - I am receiving the same type of spam as always and incoming mail is usually textual business mail, rarely with attachments. I am also not noticing increased mail traffic. Irena -----Original Message----- From: skip at pobox.com [mailto:skip at pobox.com] Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 12:21 PM To: Irena Suput Cc: spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Outlook locks up with SpamBayes enabled Irena, Is it possible that SpamBayes is munching on an especially large email or a lot of emails which arrived in a burst? I don't know how Outlook doles out time to SpamBayes, but it's possible that if it's handed off control it won't get it back until SpamBayes is finished munching. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ "Be different, express yourself like everyone else." From HeidiE at ekreg.com Mon May 12 20:48:37 2008 From: HeidiE at ekreg.com (Heidi Edliq) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 11:48:37 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] online information Message-ID: <3DA97200676CD54399364BC90BC2E342B8F746@EKSERVER.ekreg.local> To Whom It May Concern: My boss Edward Krigsman sent an email to spambayes requesting technical assistance. However, when he did this he sent a screen shot of his desktop computer which has personal and private information on it. I need to either have this online information edited or removed completely. He did a Google search for his name and when you click on the following link below it has an attachment within it that shows the print screen of his desktop. How do I get this resolve this issue? [Spambayes] tech help - Edward Krigsman - org.python.spambayes ... From, Sent On, Attachments. Edward Krigsman, 09 Apr 2007 07:42 .jpe ... Edward Krigsman | President & CEO. ek Real Estate Group ... Best, Heidi Heidi Edliq | Office Manager ek Real Estate Group E-mail: heidie at ekreg.com Direct: 206.404.9817 Fax: 206.441.5695 Office: 206.374.9400 100 Fourth Avenue North Suite 155 Seattle, WA 98109 ekreg.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It's possible that raising the question will stimulate interest in the posting. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Heidi Edliq Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 2:49 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] online information To Whom It May Concern: My boss ... sent an email to spambayes requesting technical assistance. However, when he did this he sent a screen shot of his desktop computer which has personal and private information on it. I need to either have this online information edited or removed completely. He did a Google search for his name and when you click on the following link below it has an attachment within it that shows the print screen of his desktop. How do I get this resolve this issue? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From amedee at amedee.be Mon May 12 21:51:03 2008 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 21:51:03 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes for Web Access client In-Reply-To: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F906AF27B2@PKCVT01.pkc.com> References: <0A1FB7B299E67E41A24BD4939D4E655C1B2D78138F@exchange.greenville.edu> <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F906AF27B2@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Message-ID: <2018.81.82.1.80.1210621863.squirrel@intrepid.warp.be> On Mon, May 12, 2008 14:00, Jesse Pelton wrote: > I don't think so. SpamBayes gets hooked into a e-mail client (or between > the client and server), but when you use the Outlook web interface, > there is no e-mail client, just a Web client. The server generates HTML > sent to the browser and interprets the browser's requests, but that's > HTTP traffic, not IMAP or POP3. I can confirm this. At work, I do second level office support, which includes email clients. Outlook Web Access is a webmail client just like Squirrelmail or Roundcube. It's neither a mailserver nor a mailclient, but it is just an HTML rendering of your message store. In the case of OWA, your mailserver is Exchange. In case of Squirrelmail or Roundcube, your mailserver is usually something IMAP like Cyrus or Dovecot. Spam filters can work on servers or on clients. SpamBayes is a typical client-side spamfilter, and when it is working as a proxy, it behaves like a client to the original mailserver. But in case of webmail, there is no mailserver to talk to. The mailserver is not exposed, there is only a webserver. The only places where you could fit on Spambayes in such a configuration, are: * leave an Outlook client open all the time, and install Spambayes as Outlook plugin. Very inpractical. * integrate SpamBayes in the mailserver. I don't know if this is possible with Exchange, my first suggestion would be to put a Postfix or Exim server in front of the Exchange server and run SpamBayes on that. The wiki has instructions to do that. But if you run Spambayes on a server, you loose much of its strength as an individual spamfilter. At client-side, what is spam for me might not be spam for you. At server-side, all spam filtering is equal. Anyway if you are going to run a spamfilter at the mailserver, please consider spamassassin on Postfix/Exim/Sendmail/Qmail/... or one of the commercial thingies on Exchange. There really is such a thing as the right tool for the right job. Spambayes is not the right tool for server side filtering. But for client side filtering, it's really wicked! -- Amedee From amedee at amedee.be Mon May 12 22:04:28 2008 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 22:04:28 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Spambayes] online information In-Reply-To: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F906AF297B@PKCVT01.pkc.com> References: <3DA97200676CD54399364BC90BC2E342B8F746@EKSERVER.ekreg.local> <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F906AF297B@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Message-ID: <2043.81.82.1.80.1210622668.squirrel@intrepid.warp.be> On Mon, May 12, 2008 21:40, Jesse Pelton wrote: > Please see the following discussions about the public nature of postings > to the SpamBayes mailing list (and other such lists): > > http://www.nabble.com/Mail-archive-----Please-delete-td1777509.html > http://www.nabble.com/asking-to-delete-a-message-td7074218.html > > Sometimes the best thing to do is keep mum. It's possible that raising > the question will stimulate interest in the posting. I for one would never have looked at this particular email, if it weren't for the email that Heidi sent. She even was so nice to send a direct url to the message, which in turn will be indexed too by Google et al. In my humble opinion, the "private" data looks very uninteresting. Anyway the mailing list description clearly states: "Please note that this is a public mailing list: all messages sent to this list are visible to the public, and are publicly archived." Source: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes This page is linked at the bottom of every email posted to the list. Not only are the emails publicly archived, they are also privately archived by the hundreds of people who are subscribed to the list. What Heidi or her boss are actually asking, in terms of "old media", is the following: A reader sends a letter to the editor of a newspaper. The newspaper publishes and prints the email in their next edition. Thousands of people buy the newspaper the next day and read it. Then, after a week, the person who wrote the letter wants to recall it. He asks the editor to take back the letter, and to retrieve all newspapers that were printed with the letter. Is this situation any different from the current request? I don't think so. The only thing that changed is that paper was replaced by electrons. -- Amedee From skip at pobox.com Mon May 12 22:09:53 2008 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 15:09:53 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] online information In-Reply-To: <3DA97200676CD54399364BC90BC2E342B8F746@EKSERVER.ekreg.local> References: <3DA97200676CD54399364BC90BC2E342B8F746@EKSERVER.ekreg.local> Message-ID: <18472.42001.424142.422277@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> Heidi> My boss Edward Krigsman sent an email to spambayes requesting Heidi> technical assistance. However, when he did this he sent a screen Heidi> shot of his desktop computer which has personal and private Heidi> information on it. I need to either have this online information Heidi> edited or removed completely. He did a Google search for his Heidi> name and when you click on the following link below it has an Heidi> attachment within it that shows the print screen of his desktop. Heidi> How do I get this resolve this issue? Heidi, Googling for your boss's name I see a message sent to the SpamBayes mailing list over a year ago. It's highly unlikely at this point that anything we did to scrub the message or the screen shot would have any effect on the overall distribution of that screenshot. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ "Be different, express yourself like everyone else." From anastas at paintplan.com Tue May 13 10:06:22 2008 From: anastas at paintplan.com (Anastasy Safarov) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 12:06:22 +0400 Subject: [Spambayes] PRIVATE data in your SpamBayes mailing list! Message-ID: <001601c8b4d0$3d383470$b7a89d50$@com> Dear SpamBayes Team Please, REMOVE my PRIVATE information from your list!!!! http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/2005-December/018573.html Which, I believe, came there by mistake. I never wanted it to be public and sent it PRIVATELY to one of the developers. Please, support your GOOD KARMA motto and destroy that page forever!!! P.S. I believe THIS message won't get PUBLIC somewhere TOO! Thank you, Anastasy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Andoni.OConchubhair at fmr.com Tue May 13 12:20:59 2008 From: Andoni.OConchubhair at fmr.com (OConchubhair, Andoni) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 11:20:59 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] PRIVATE data in your SpamBayes mailing list! Message-ID: <482B687A2184824D89145C74E6A540A2D7CF83@MSGGALCLA2WIN.DMN1.FMR.COM> You believe wrongly! You copied the mailing list with this message when you sent it. So now everyone on the list has a copy of this message on their computer. I don't know how many people that might be but I assume it is many hundreds if not thousands of people all over the world. If you send a mail to: spambayes at python.org or spambayes-dev at python.org it comes to my computer along with the computers of everyone on the list. There is nothing that anyone can do centrally to UNDO that action. They cannot reach into my computer and 'take it back'. The same applies to the original Dec. 2005 mail. If you don't mention it I wouldn't be dying to read it to see why you want it wiped, but now that you have... A :-) _____ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Anastasy Safarov Sent: 13 May 2008 09:06 To: tim at python.org; barry at python.org; tim at fourstonesExpressions.com Cc: spambayes at python.org; spambayes-dev at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] PRIVATE data in your SpamBayes mailing list! Dear SpamBayes Team Please, REMOVE my PRIVATE information from your list!!!! http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/2005-December/018573.html Which, I believe, came there by mistake. I never wanted it to be public and sent it PRIVATELY to one of the developers. Please, support your GOOD KARMA motto and destroy that page forever!!! P.S. I believe THIS message won't get PUBLIC somewhere TOO! Thank you, Anastasy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From amedee at amedee.be Tue May 13 16:06:35 2008 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 16:06:35 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Spambayes] PRIVATE data in your SpamBayes mailing list! In-Reply-To: <482B687A2184824D89145C74E6A540A2D7CF83@MSGGALCLA2WIN.DMN1.FMR.COM> References: <482B687A2184824D89145C74E6A540A2D7CF83@MSGGALCLA2WIN.DMN1.FMR.COM> Message-ID: <4294.193.121.250.194.1210687595.squirrel@intrepid.warp.be> On Tue, May 13, 2008 12:20, OConchubhair, Andoni wrote: > You believe wrongly! > > You copied the mailing list with this message when you sent it. So now > everyone on the list has a copy of this message on their computer. I don't > know how many people that might be but I assume it is many hundreds if not > thousands of people all over the world. > > If you send a mail to: spambayes at python.org > or spambayes-dev at python.org it comes to > my computer along with the computers of everyone on the list. There is > nothing that anyone can do centrally to UNDO that action. They cannot > reach > into my computer and 'take it back'. > > The same applies to the original Dec. 2005 mail. If you don't mention it I > wouldn't be dying to read it to see why you want it wiped, but now that > you > have... > > A :-) To heap insult onto injury: because the exact url to the Dec. 2005 mail was posted, it will be available soon on the tens of not hundreds of web interfaces for this mailing list. All known search engines (Googlebot, Yahoobot,...) will index the new message and stumble upon the url to the old message. Which they will index too... And if the archive servers have publicly available visitor stats, the visit count for the old message will raise too, which could result into additional indexing. The perverse result of the complaint is that it actually made the situation even worse! Shame on you for asking the impossible!!! -- Amedee From stevemalee at yahoo.com Tue May 13 17:24:12 2008 From: stevemalee at yahoo.com (Steve Malee) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 08:24:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spambayes] Training - SpamBayes Wiki - spam clues page Message-ID: <49983.30523.qm@web83204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Is it possible to send a sample of the most recommended spam clues page that you get when clicking on "show spam clues for current message?" I have read a lot of the training articles in the SpamBayes Wiki and have ended up a little confused. So thought a visual explanation would be very helpful. From offers05 at lavabit.com Tue May 13 18:20:30 2008 From: offers05 at lavabit.com (Nat) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 06:20:30 -1000 Subject: [Spambayes] HOW DO I SET UP PORTS FOR MULTIPLE SERVERS? Message-ID: <030f01c8b515$43d089a0$5fe20842@NathansNotebook> Hi, I get email from multiple remote servers. I have no idea what the port numbers are. The instructions say that if I don't know what to put in here, I should put 110. However, if I put 110 repeatedly for all the servers, I'm told that each one should be unique, I can't have the same port for all of them. What am I supposed to put? Is there a maximum number of servers or ports that I can have? Thanks, Nathan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skip at pobox.com Tue May 13 19:57:01 2008 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 12:57:01 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] HOW DO I SET UP PORTS FOR MULTIPLE SERVERS? In-Reply-To: <030f01c8b515$43d089a0$5fe20842@NathansNotebook> References: <030f01c8b515$43d089a0$5fe20842@NathansNotebook> Message-ID: <18473.54893.49216.538627@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> Nathan> I get email from multiple remote servers. I have no idea what Nathan> the port numbers are. The instructions say that if I don't know Nathan> what to put in here, I should put 110. However, if I put 110 Nathan> repeatedly for all the servers, I'm told that each one should be Nathan> unique, I can't have the same port for all of them. I think by "unique" it means each host/port pair must be unique. The interface is a bit unintuitive. If you talk to servers A, B and C which, respectively listen to ports M, N and O, you'd enter A,B,C in the hosts field and M,N,O in the ports field. (I think comma is the separator. Maybe it's a colon though.) It would be fine if M, N and O all equalled 110 as long as A, B and C were distinct hosts. Nathan> Is there a maximum number of servers or ports that I can have? I don't believe so. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ "Be different, express yourself like everyone else." From anonymoususr at gmail.com Wed May 14 08:19:35 2008 From: anonymoususr at gmail.com (mbn) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 23:19:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spambayes] Geometric Mean calculation Message-ID: <17224115.post@talk.nabble.com> Hi Guys, Sorry for reviving an old topic, but I would like to get more information about the geometric mean (GM) method devised by G. Robinson. The earliest reference I could find is his article: http://radio.weblogs.com/0101454/stories/2002/09/16/spamDetection.html Where he mentions that the geometric mean is consistent with Fisher's method, but no more details are given: "The connection would take too much time to explain here, but it is a great justification for why this should work really well." I understant GM is now obsolete and has been replaced in favor of Fisher's, but I am interested in the derivation of the method (or at least the basic intuition behind it) and its relationship with Fisher's. I could not find any explanation in the archives of SpamBayes. The most similar thing to Robinson's GM I could find is "logarithmic opinion pool" with weights wi=1/n and constant k=1, but I have no idea whether the two things are related. Any explanation about the derivation of the GM method will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Geometric-Mean-calculation-tp17224115p17224115.html Sent from the Spambayes - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From anonymoususr at gmail.com Wed May 14 09:55:34 2008 From: anonymoususr at gmail.com (mbn) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 00:55:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spambayes] (sorry if message is duplicated) Geometric Mean calculation Message-ID: <17225572.post@talk.nabble.com> Hi Guys, Sorry for reviving an old topic, but I would like to get more information about the geometric mean (GM) method devised by G. Robinson. The earliest reference I could find is his article: http://radio.weblogs.com/0101454/stories/2002/09/16/spamDetection.html Where he mentions that the geometric mean is consistent with Fisher's method, but no more details are given: "The connection would take too much time to explain here, but it is a great justification for why this should work really well." I understant GM is now obsolete and has been replaced in favor of Fisher's, but I am interested in the derivation of the method (or at least the basic intuition behind it) and its relationship with Fisher's. I could not find any explanation in the archives of SpamBayes. The most similar thing to Robinson's GM I could find is "logarithmic opinion pool" with weights wi=1/n and constant k=1, but I have no idea whether the two things are related. Any explanation about the derivation of the GM method will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/%28sorry-if-message-is-duplicated%29-Geometric-Mean-calculation-tp17225572p17225572.html Sent from the Spambayes - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From skip at pobox.com Wed May 14 13:47:03 2008 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 06:47:03 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] HOW DO I SET UP PORTS FOR MULTIPLE SERVERS? In-Reply-To: <031e01c8b591$d3586490$5fe20842@NathansNotebook> References: <030f01c8b515$43d089a0$5fe20842@NathansNotebook> <18473.54893.49216.538627@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> <04c001c8b526$314e2a10$5fe20842@NathansNotebook> <18473.64939.539173.402225@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> <005501c8b540$d4909a40$5fe20842@NathansNotebook> <18474.11339.933602.173535@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> <012201c8b55c$6e236050$5fe20842@NathansNotebook> <18474.17277.247226.9598@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> <031e01c8b591$d3586490$5fe20842@NathansNotebook> Message-ID: <18474.53559.87511.920142@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> Nathan> "change your mail client to send and receive mail from Nathan> "localhost"" I did that. I put localhost in the POP3 Server box Nathan> for one of my email accounts. I then sent a test email to that Nathan> address. When I tried to retrieve it, I was told that the Nathan> server localhost couldn't be found. Try replacing it with "127.0.0.1". Alternatively, check the hosts file on your computer to make sure it has a definition for localhost. (I'm not a Windows person, so I can't begin to guess where that might be.) I've cc'd the spambayes mailing list on this reply. There are many others on that list with more Windows expertise who can help with these sorts of issues. Skip From jsp at PKC.com Wed May 14 15:29:20 2008 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 09:29:20 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] HOW DO I SET UP PORTS FOR MULTIPLE SERVERS? In-Reply-To: <18474.53559.87511.920142@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> References: <030f01c8b515$43d089a0$5fe20842@NathansNotebook><18473.54893.49216.538627@montanaro-dyndns-org.local><04c001c8b526$314e2a10$5fe20842@NathansNotebook><18473.64939.539173.402225@montanaro-dyndns-org.local><005501c8b540$d4909a40$5fe20842@NathansNotebook><18474.11339.933602.173535@montanaro-dyndns-org.local><012201c8b55c$6e236050$5fe20842@NathansNotebook><18474.17277.247226.9598@montanaro-dyndns-org.local><031e01c8b591$d3586490$5fe20842@NathansNotebook> <18474.53559.87511.920142@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F906AF2C3D@PKCVT01.pkc.com> The hosts file on Windows is %WINDIR%\system32\drivers\etc\hosts, where %WINDIR% is most commonly c:\windows. -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of skip at pobox.com Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 7:47 AM To: Nat Cc: spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] HOW DO I SET UP PORTS FOR MULTIPLE SERVERS? Nathan> "change your mail client to send and receive mail from Nathan> "localhost"" I did that. I put localhost in the POP3 Server box Nathan> for one of my email accounts. I then sent a test email to that Nathan> address. When I tried to retrieve it, I was told that the Nathan> server localhost couldn't be found. Try replacing it with "127.0.0.1". Alternatively, check the hosts file on your computer to make sure it has a definition for localhost. (I'm not a Windows person, so I can't begin to guess where that might be.) I've cc'd the spambayes mailing list on this reply. There are many others on that list with more Windows expertise who can help with these sorts of issues. Skip _______________________________________________ SpamBayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From jsp at PKC.com Wed May 14 16:16:32 2008 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 10:16:32 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] HOW DO I SET UP PORTS FOR MULTIPLE SERVERS? In-Reply-To: <055101c8b5cb$ae1a5910$5fe20842@NathansNotebook> References: <030f01c8b515$43d089a0$5fe20842@NathansNotebook><18473.54893.49216.538627@montanaro-dyndns-org.local><04c001c8b526$314e2a10$5fe20842@NathansNotebook><18473.64939.539173.402225@montanaro-dyndns-org.local><005501c8b540$d4909a40$5fe20842@NathansNotebook><18474.11339.933602.173535@montanaro-dyndns-org.local><012201c8b55c$6e236050$5fe20842@NathansNotebook><18474.17277.247226.9598@montanaro-dyndns-org.local><031e01c8b591$d3586490$5fe20842@NathansNotebook> <18474.53559.87511.920142@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F906AF2C3D@PKCVT01.pkc.com> <055101c8b5cb$ae1a5910$5fe20842@NathansNotebook> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F906AF2C7D@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Since (by convention) the hosts filename does not include an extension, Windows is not sure how to open it. (Don't get me going on the foolishness of relying on a file's name to tell you how to process it.) The file is text, though, so you can open it with Notepad, WordPad, or any other text editor. -----Original Message----- From: Nat [mailto:offers05 at lavabit.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 10:06 AM To: Jesse Pelton Subject: Re: [Spambayes] HOW DO I SET UP PORTS FOR MULTIPLE SERVERS? OK, thanks I found a file named hosts. There's also one named IMHosts. Now that I found it, what do I do? When I try to open it, I'm told to choose the program I want to use to open it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jesse Pelton" To: ; "Nat" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 3:29 AM Subject: RE: [Spambayes] HOW DO I SET UP PORTS FOR MULTIPLE SERVERS? The hosts file on Windows is %WINDIR%\system32\drivers\etc\hosts, where %WINDIR% is most commonly c:\windows. -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of skip at pobox.com Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 7:47 AM To: Nat Cc: spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] HOW DO I SET UP PORTS FOR MULTIPLE SERVERS? Nathan> "change your mail client to send and receive mail from Nathan> "localhost"" I did that. I put localhost in the POP3 Server box Nathan> for one of my email accounts. I then sent a test email to that Nathan> address. When I tried to retrieve it, I was told that the Nathan> server localhost couldn't be found. Try replacing it with "127.0.0.1". Alternatively, check the hosts file on your computer to make sure it has a definition for localhost. (I'm not a Windows person, so I can't begin to guess where that might be.) I've cc'd the spambayes mailing list on this reply. There are many others on that list with more Windows expertise who can help with these sorts of issues. Skip _______________________________________________ SpamBayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html ________________________________________________________________________ ____________ Largest network of startups. Find new startup opportunities. Click here. http://ads.lavabit.com/fc/Ioyw6kdbYFERhYYk09aJjytsJbU0mhThchvxmX1vMcLpDX eF8fteu1/ ________________________________________________________________________ ____________ From amedee at amedee.be Wed May 14 16:25:15 2008 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 16:25:15 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Spambayes] HOW DO I SET UP PORTS FOR MULTIPLE SERVERS? In-Reply-To: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F906AF2C7D@PKCVT01.pkc.com> References: <030f01c8b515$43d089a0$5fe20842@NathansNotebook><18473.54893.49216.538627@montanaro-dyndns-org.local><04c001c8b526$314e2a10$5fe20842@NathansNotebook><18473.64939.539173.402225@montanaro-dyndns-org.local><005501c8b540$d4909a40$5fe20842@NathansNotebook><18474.11339.933602.173535@montanaro-dyndns-org.local><012201c8b55c$6e236050$5fe20842@NathansNotebook><18474.17277.247226.9598@montanaro-dyndns-org.local><031e01c8b591$d3586490$5fe20842@NathansNotebook> <18474.53559.87511.920142@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F906AF2C3D@PKCVT01.pkc.com> <055101c8b5cb$ae1a5910$5fe20842@NathansNotebook> <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F906AF2C7D@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Message-ID: <27925.193.121.250.194.1210775115.squirrel@intrepid.warp.be> On Wed, May 14, 2008 16:16, Jesse Pelton wrote: > Since (by convention) the hosts filename does not include an extension, > Windows is not sure how to open it. (Don't get me going on the > foolishness of relying on a file's name to tell you how to process it.) > The file is text, though, so you can open it with Notepad, WordPad, or > any other text editor. I recommend vi >:-) (evil grin) (yes, vi *does* exist for Windows, or at least vim does) -- Ameddee From jsp at PKC.com Wed May 14 16:31:43 2008 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 10:31:43 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] HOW DO I SET UP PORTS FOR MULTIPLE SERVERS? In-Reply-To: <27925.193.121.250.194.1210775115.squirrel@intrepid.warp.be> References: <030f01c8b515$43d089a0$5fe20842@NathansNotebook><18473.54893.49216.538627@montanaro-dyndns-org.local><04c001c8b526$314e2a10$5fe20842@NathansNotebook><18473.64939.539173.402225@montanaro-dyndns-org.local><005501c8b540$d4909a40$5fe20842@NathansNotebook><18474.11339.933602.173535@montanaro-dyndns-org.local><012201c8b55c$6e236050$5fe20842@NathansNotebook><18474.17277.247226.9598@montanaro-dyndns-org.local><031e01c8b591$d3586490$5fe20842@NathansNotebook><18474.53559.87511.920142@montanaro-dyndns-org.local><16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F906AF2C3D@PKCVT01.pkc.com><055101c8b5cb$ae1a5910$5fe20842@NathansNotebook><16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F906AF2C7D@PKCVT01.pkc.com> <27925.193.121.250.194.1210775115.squirrel@intrepid.warp.be> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F906AF2C90@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Ignore the man with the evil grin. He claims to be Amedee, but he can't spell it. -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Amedee Van Gasse Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 10:25 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] HOW DO I SET UP PORTS FOR MULTIPLE SERVERS? On Wed, May 14, 2008 16:16, Jesse Pelton wrote: > Since (by convention) the hosts filename does not include an extension, > Windows is not sure how to open it. (Don't get me going on the > foolishness of relying on a file's name to tell you how to process it.) > The file is text, though, so you can open it with Notepad, WordPad, or > any other text editor. I recommend vi >:-) (evil grin) (yes, vi *does* exist for Windows, or at least vim does) -- Ameddee _______________________________________________ SpamBayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From amedee at amedee.be Wed May 14 17:11:36 2008 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 17:11:36 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Spambayes] HOW DO I SET UP PORTS FOR MULTIPLE SERVERS? In-Reply-To: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F906AF2C90@PKCVT01.pkc.com> References: <030f01c8b515$43d089a0$5fe20842@NathansNotebook><18473.54893.49216.538627@montanaro-dyndns-org.local><04c001c8b526$314e2a10$5fe20842@NathansNotebook><18473.64939.539173.402225@montanaro-dyndns-org.local><005501c8b540$d4909a40$5fe20842@NathansNotebook><18474.11339.933602.173535@montanaro-dyndns-org.local><012201c8b55c$6e236050$5fe20842@NathansNotebook><18474.17277.247226.9598@montanaro-dyndns-org.local><031e01c8b591$d3586490$5fe20842@NathansNotebook><18474.53559.87511.920142@montanaro-dyndns-org.local><16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F906AF2C3D@PKCVT01.pkc.com><055101c8b5cb$ae1a5910$5fe20842@NathansNotebook><16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F906AF2C7D@PKCVT01.pkc.com> <27925.193.121.250.194.1210775115.squirrel@intrepid.warp.be> <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F906AF2C90@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Message-ID: <25128.193.121.250.194.1210777896.squirrel@intrepid.warp.be> On Wed, May 14, 2008 16:31, Jesse Pelton wrote: > Ignore the man with the evil grin. He claims to be Amedee, but he can't > spell it. Eek! a typo in my own name. Sweaty finger syndrome? From leecarty at comcast.net Fri May 16 05:33:43 2008 From: leecarty at comcast.net (Lee Carty) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 23:33:43 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Stops working Message-ID: <006001c8b705$a4791fa0$6701a8c0@your4105e587b6> All of a sudden, both on my home computer and at my office, SpamBayes has stopped working and the toolbar has disappeared, leaving only a nonfunctioning button saying SpamBayes. The program folder has only shortcuts. When I tried to download and reinstall it at work, I still couldn't recover the toolbar. Has it been attacked by a virus? How can I recover this useful tool? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From offers05 at lavabit.com Fri May 16 16:11:01 2008 From: offers05 at lavabit.com (Nat) Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 04:11:01 -1000 Subject: [Spambayes] HOW DO I SET UP EMAIL ACCOUNT? Message-ID: <036501c8b75e$ac7840b0$5fe20842@NathansNotebook> Hi, I use Outlook Express. I have multiple email accounts. I was told that when I set up an account in Spambayes, I should put either "localhost" or "127.0.0.1" as the incoming mail server. Neither one of those works. Then I was told to check my host file in windows to see if localhost is listed. It appears to be listed, so now what? Also, in addition to listing the incoming server on the top, the setup page also asks for the name of the incoming server accont name & password on the bottom. I would like to know what I am supposed to put there. Right now I have my email address as the account name (myemail at mydomain.com) & the password that gets me in to my remote host. Thanks, Nathan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From skip at pobox.com Sat May 17 01:19:27 2008 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 18:19:27 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Stops working In-Reply-To: <006001c8b705$a4791fa0$6701a8c0@your4105e587b6> References: <006001c8b705$a4791fa0$6701a8c0@your4105e587b6> Message-ID: <18478.5759.745340.241064@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> Lee> All of a sudden, both on my home computer and at my office, Lee> SpamBayes has stopped working and the toolbar has disappeared, Lee> leaving only a nonfunctioning button saying SpamBayes. The program Lee> folder has only shortcuts. When I tried to download and reinstall Lee> it at work, I still couldn't recover the toolbar. Has it been Lee> attacked by a virus? How can I recover this useful tool? I'd check the troubleshooting guide and see if the log file indicates any problems. Useful links: http://spambayes.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/*checkout*/spambayes/trunk/spambayes/Outlook2000/docs/troubleshooting.html http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/docs.html -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ "Be different, express yourself like everyone else." From skip at pobox.com Sat May 17 04:47:59 2008 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 21:47:59 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Geometric Mean calculation In-Reply-To: <17224115.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <17224115.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <18478.18271.296229.395149@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> mbn> Sorry for reviving an old topic, but I would like to get more mbn> information about the geometric mean (GM) method devised by mbn> G. Robinson. The earliest reference I could find is his article: mbn> http://radio.weblogs.com/0101454/stories/2002/09/16/spamDetection.html mbn> Where he mentions that the geometric mean is consistent with mbn> Fisher's method, but no more details are given: ... mbn> Any explanation about the derivation of the GM method will be mbn> greatly appreciated. You might try asking on spambayes-dev at python.org. It's quite possible that the people involved in that part of the development no longer read this list. They might read the -dev list still. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ "Be different, express yourself like everyone else." From demasuxywoz22 at hotmail.com Sat May 17 23:27:57 2008 From: demasuxywoz22 at hotmail.com (demasuxywoz22) Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 17:27:57 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] We have the best watch copies on the web Message-ID: We carry on the best Replica's All the expensive brands http://sadutisirot77.blogspot.com From ebenton2ph at windstream.net Sun May 18 04:55:07 2008 From: ebenton2ph at windstream.net (Ed Benton) Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 21:55:07 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] SPAMBAYES Message-ID: I have recently installed your program and was pleased with the way it was set up. However I have lost the junk mail folder. I only have the suspect junk mail folder. When I open Outlook I sit and watch as all of my email clicke off to some distant point that I can not locate. What do I do? Ed From tom.petersen at sdsd.sdbor.edu Mon May 19 14:02:46 2008 From: tom.petersen at sdsd.sdbor.edu (Petersen, Tom) Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 07:02:46 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] SPAMBAYES In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2882AF79748F4548AC2CD96AE183703A39F4A1@SDSD-EX01.usdsu.local> This may apply: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#help-i-deleted-the-unsure-spam -folder First place I would check is the deleted items folder, look for a 'plus' sign beside it. If it's in there, move it back. -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Ed Benton Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 9:55 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] SPAMBAYES I have recently installed your program and was pleased with the way it was set up. However I have lost the junk mail folder. I only have the suspect junk mail folder. When I open Outlook I sit and watch as all of my email clicke off to some distant point that I can not locate. What do I do? Ed _______________________________________________ SpamBayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.htmlList-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: spambayes-bounces at python.org Errors-To: spambayes-bounces at python.org X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Barracuda-Connect: smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl[194.109.24.36] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1211079651 X-Barracuda-Bayes: INNOCENT GLOBAL 0.0000 1.0000 -2.0210 X-Barracuda-Virus-Scanned: by Barracuda Spam Firewall at usd.edu X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: -2.02 X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=-2.02 using global scores of TAG_LEVEL=2.5 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=4.0 KILL_LEVEL=7.0 tests= X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.1, rules version 3.1.50674 Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- I have recently installed your program and was pleased with the way it was set up. However I have lost the junk mail folder. I only have the suspect junk mail folder. When I open Outlook I sit and watch as all of my email clicke off to some distant point that I can not locate. What do I do? Ed _______________________________________________ SpamBayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From rasexugoxih46 at hotmail.com Tue May 20 02:07:26 2008 From: rasexugoxih46 at hotmail.com (rasexugoxih46) Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 20:07:26 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] We have the best watch copies on the web Message-ID: Get the Finest Replica! We only sell premium watches. There's no battery in these replicas just like the real ones since they charge themselves as you move. The second hand moves JUST like the real ones, too. These original watches sell in stores for thousands of dollars. We sell them for much less. - Replicated to the Smallest Detail - 98% Perfectly Accurate Markings - Signature Green Sticker w/ Serial Number on Watch Back - Magnified Quickset Date - Includes all Proper Markings Visit us: http://dogatopudik62.blogspot.com From enewger at gmx.de Tue May 20 12:46:09 2008 From: enewger at gmx.de (Eckhardt Newger) Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 12:46:09 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] Position of toolbar gets lost when Outlook restarts Message-ID: <002501c8ba66$b74e6d60$25eb4820$@de> In my Outlook 2007 all toolbars are lined up in a single row with the Spambayes toolbar at the end of it. But when I restart Outlook, the Spambayes toolbar appears in a second row underneath, i.e. the toolbar's position is lost. Thus I have to manually move the toolbar to the desired position each time Outlook starts. This happens with version 1.0.4 as well as beta 1.1a4. Any solution or workaround? Best regards Eckhardt Newger __________ Hinweis von ESET NOD32 Antivirus, Signaturdatenbank-Version 3113 (20080520) __________ E-Mail wurde gepruft mit ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From thruska at cubiclesoft.com Tue May 20 14:52:12 2008 From: thruska at cubiclesoft.com (Thomas Hruska) Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 05:52:12 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Position of toolbar gets lost when Outlook restarts In-Reply-To: <002501c8ba66$b74e6d60$25eb4820$@de> References: <002501c8ba66$b74e6d60$25eb4820$@de> Message-ID: <4832C97C.9020001@cubiclesoft.com> Eckhardt Newger wrote: > In my Outlook 2007 all toolbars are lined up in a single row with the > Spambayes toolbar at the end of it. But when I restart Outlook, the > Spambayes toolbar appears in a second row underneath, i.e. the toolbar's > position is lost. Thus I have to manually move the toolbar to the desired > position each time Outlook starts. This happens with version 1.0.4 as well > as beta 1.1a4. > > Any solution or workaround? > > Best regards > > Eckhardt Newger Technically, toolbars in Office are called CommandBars. Saving the position of a COM object on a CommandBar is the equivalent of not using anesthetic to pull wisdom teeth that haven't surfaced. I'm pretty sure it is possible to save the position, but it isn't easy/obvious. -- Thomas Hruska CubicleSoft President Ph: 517-803-4197 *NEW* MyTaskFocus 1.1 Get on task. Stay on task. http://www.CubicleSoft.com/MyTaskFocus/ From wogafizewow84 at hotmail.com Wed May 21 10:48:16 2008 From: wogafizewow84 at hotmail.com (wogafizewow84) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 04:48:16 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] We carry on the best Replica's Message-ID: We carry on the best Replica's All the best brands http://gazagydazyh51.blogspot.com From toxegosiduf73 at hotmail.com Wed May 21 15:19:12 2008 From: toxegosiduf73 at hotmail.com (toxegosiduf73) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 09:19:12 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] You will not find a better watch copy for less Message-ID: We have the best watch copies on the web Every type and style http://lemyvuwolap53.blogspot.com From anton_midtgaard at nesa.jay.net Wed May 21 17:32:42 2008 From: anton_midtgaard at nesa.jay.net (Anton Midtgaard) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 17:32:42 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] How to uninstall Spambayes? Message-ID: <77312876CAC04328877B5DA2E58AD388@A1> Please, would you be so kind as to tell me, how can i uninstall Spambayes. I have been content with using Spambayes, but now my antivirus program has an antispam skanner too. Regards from Anton Midtgaard -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mitchell at 4guysfromrolla.com Thu May 22 23:12:14 2008 From: mitchell at 4guysfromrolla.com (Scott Mitchell) Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 14:12:14 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Messages being bypassed by SpamBayes Filtering Message-ID: <06fb01c8bc50$82b7ac60$88270520$@com> I am using SpamBayes Outlook plugin version 1.0.4. My OS is Windows Server 2008 x64. I am using Outlook 2007 SP1. I am not getting any crashes, but here's what happens. If I let Outlook run for a while, a number of emails arrive in my Inbox and get scored by SpamBayes. Some stay, some move to the Junk Suspects or Junk Email folders. Great. However, if I then switch folders and come BACK to the Inbox, all of the sudden there are several email messages that appear with no spam score (some ham, some spam). I don't know how they got there. Another example of the same problem: I get several hundred emails a day (mostly spam). If I leave Outlook running overnight, the next day the Inbox has all emails with spam scores. If I go to another folder, then back to Inbox, BLAM, there are now like 50-100 emails without spam scores showing up. It appears that SpamBayes is somehow now filtering all incoming email. Any ideas? TIA -- Scott Mitchell mitchell at 4guysfromrolla.com http://www.4GuysFromRolla.com/ScottMitchell * When you think ASP.NET, think 4GuysFromRolla.com! From patricia at comcast.net Sat May 24 20:49:05 2008 From: patricia at comcast.net (Pat Harbaugh) Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 13:49:05 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] I can't figure out what to do? Message-ID: <000401c8bdce$d7bba250$3401a8c0@patsdell> Windows MS WIN Prof. version 5.1 copy 1981-2001 Spam bays 1.0.4 (March 2005) That's what I know- I wanted to empty the "maybe spam" folder and when I did --it said to check with SPAM BAYES because I needed to ____? Not sure of what it said. So now what happens or what should I change Thank you for any help, I can call you (my dime) or email whenever you have time Pattie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From amedee at amedee.be Sun May 25 02:52:43 2008 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 02:52:43 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Spambayes] I can't figure out what to do? In-Reply-To: <000401c8bdce$d7bba250$3401a8c0@patsdell> References: <000401c8bdce$d7bba250$3401a8c0@patsdell> Message-ID: <33218.81.82.1.232.1211676763.squirrel@intrepid.warp.be> On Sat, May 24, 2008 20:49, Pat Harbaugh wrote: > Windows MS WIN Prof. version 5.1 copy 1981-2001 > > > > Spam bays 1.0.4 (March 2005) > > > > That's what I know- > > I wanted to empty the "maybe spam" folder and when I did --it said to > check > with SPAM BAYES because > > I needed to ____? Not sure of what it said. So now what happens or what > should I change > > > > Thank you for any help, I can call you (my dime) or email whenever you > have > time Sorry, I can't figure out what your question or problem is. All I know is that your X-Mailer says you use Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838, so you probably use the Outlook plugin version of SpamBayes. I don't use that. But I can give you help so that you can find out more information about your problem and post back to the mailing list. Please read the troubleshooting guide: http://spambayes.cvs.sourceforge.net/*checkout*/spambayes/spambayes/Outlook2000/docs/troubleshooting.html?revision=HEAD In particular, read the part about the log file. Also, because your question was very confusing, please read: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Most important: be very sure and be very specific. If Spambayes shows you an error, don't dismiss it and say "not sure what it said". Again, be *very* sure. Take notes. Or make a screenshot. That really helps. Good luck! -- Amedee From emailshere at dslextreme.com Tue May 27 00:54:30 2008 From: emailshere at dslextreme.com (S-B) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 15:54:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spambayes] 1031 Spam, 461 Good, Processed ZERO Message-ID: <17480343.post@talk.nabble.com> SpamBayes has been running for about a month and has processed zero messages. I have trained it multiple times on both good and junk mail folders. I'm using Outlook 2002 SP3. Please tell me what I should do. Thanks, S-B Please see these screenshots of my SpamBayes configuration: http://members.dslextreme.com/users/emailshere/SpamBayesTabs.jpg Log File: Loaded bayes database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db' Loaded message database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db' Bayes database initialized with 1031 spam and 461 good messages SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0.4 (March 2005) starting (with engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004)) on Windows 5.1.2600 (Service Pack 2) using Python 2.3.5 (#62, Feb 8 2005, 16:23:02) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Personal Folders/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Personal Folders/Junk E-Mail' Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer FAILED to add the toolbar item 'SpamBayesCommand.Manager' - (-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.', (0, None, None, None, 0, -2147467259), None) The above toolbar message is common - recreating the toolbar... FAILED to add the toolbar item 'SpamBayesCommand.Manager' - (-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.', (0, None, None, None, 0, -2147467259), None) The above toolbar message is common - recreating the toolbar... Saving configuration -> C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Application Data\SpamBayes\Outlook.ini SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Personal Folders/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Personal Folders/Junk E-Mail' -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/1031-Spam%2C-461-Good%2C-Processed-ZERO-tp17480343p17480343.html Sent from the Spambayes - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From emailshere at dslextreme.com Tue May 27 01:16:29 2008 From: emailshere at dslextreme.com (emailshere) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 16:16:29 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam: 1031; Good: 461; Processed: 0 Message-ID: <000101c8bf86$8769a630$8501fea9@owner9d3767847> SpamBayes has been running for exactly a month and has processed zero messages. I have trained it many times on both good and junk mail folders (not my Deleted Items folder). I also tried rebuilding the database. I'm using Outlook 2002 SP3. Please tell me what I should do. Thanks, SB Screenshots of my SpamBayes configuration: http://members.dslextreme.com/users/emailshere/SpamBayesTabs.jpg Log File: Loaded bayes database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db' Loaded message database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db' Bayes database initialized with 1031 spam and 461 good messages SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0.4 (March 2005) starting (with engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004)) on Windows 5.1.2600 (Service Pack 2) using Python 2.3.5 (#62, Feb 8 2005, 16:23:02) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Personal Folders/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Personal Folders/Junk E-Mail' Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer FAILED to add the toolbar item 'SpamBayesCommand.Manager' - (-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.', (0, None, None, None, 0, -2147467259), None) The above toolbar message is common - recreating the toolbar... FAILED to add the toolbar item 'SpamBayesCommand.Manager' - (-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.', (0, None, None, None, 0, -2147467259), None) The above toolbar message is common - recreating the toolbar... Saving configuration -> C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Application Data\SpamBayes\Outlook.ini SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Personal Folders/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Personal Folders/Junk E-Mail' -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From emailshere at dslextreme.com Tue May 27 01:11:01 2008 From: emailshere at dslextreme.com (emailshere) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 16:11:01 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Just subscribed; have quick question Message-ID: <000001c8bf85$c3e68840$8501fea9@owner9d3767847> Is this list the email version of the SpamBayes forum on nabble.com? I posted an inquiry there just now, and I don't mean to cross-post, but I'm going to post the same question here. Sorry if I've broken any rules. I was unaware of this mailing list until after posting at nabble. Thanks, SB -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mhammond at skippinet.com.au Tue May 27 01:44:17 2008 From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 09:44:17 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] 1031 Spam, 461 Good, Processed ZERO In-Reply-To: <17480343.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <17480343.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <020201c8bf8a$6bf74b60$43e5e220$@com.au> There is no evidecne in the log that spambayes is seeing any new items appear in the listed folders. Outlook can be a little confusing, especially with an Exchange based account - are you sure that "Personal Folders\Inbox" is really where your new mails are arriving, and not some other inbox? Cheers, Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes- > bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of S-B > Sent: Tuesday, 27 May 2008 8:55 AM > To: spambayes at python.org > Subject: [Spambayes] 1031 Spam, 461 Good, Processed ZERO > > > SpamBayes has been running for about a month and has processed zero > messages. > I have trained it multiple times on both good and junk mail folders. > I'm > using Outlook 2002 SP3. Please tell me what I should do. Thanks, S-B > > Please see these screenshots of my SpamBayes configuration: > > http://members.dslextreme.com/users/emailshere/SpamBayesTabs.jpg > > Log File: > > Loaded bayes database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Application > Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db' > Loaded message database from 'C:\Documents and > Settings\Owner\Application > Data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db' > Bayes database initialized with 1031 spam and 461 good messages > SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0.4 (March 2005) starting > (with > engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004)) > on Windows 5.1.2600 (Service Pack 2) > using Python 2.3.5 (#62, Feb 8 2005, 16:23:02) [MSC v.1200 32 bit > (Intel)] > SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Personal Folders/Inbox' > SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Personal > Folders/Junk > E-Mail' > Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer > FAILED to add the toolbar item 'SpamBayesCommand.Manager' - (- > 2147352567, > 'Exception occurred.', (0, None, None, None, 0, -2147467259), None) > The above toolbar message is common - recreating the toolbar... > FAILED to add the toolbar item 'SpamBayesCommand.Manager' - (- > 2147352567, > 'Exception occurred.', (0, None, None, None, 0, -2147467259), None) > The above toolbar message is common - recreating the toolbar... > Saving configuration -> C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Application > Data\SpamBayes\Outlook.ini > SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Personal Folders/Inbox' > SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Personal > Folders/Junk > E-Mail' > > -- > View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/1031-Spam%2C-461- > Good%2C-Processed-ZERO-tp17480343p17480343.html > Sent from the Spambayes - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > SpamBayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From mhammond at skippinet.com.au Tue May 27 03:14:44 2008 From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 11:14:44 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] 1031 Spam, 461 Good, Processed ZERO In-Reply-To: <000201c8bf8c$5ae123d0$8501fea9@owner9d3767847> References: <020201c8bf8a$6bf74b60$43e5e220$@com.au> <000201c8bf8c$5ae123d0$8501fea9@owner9d3767847> Message-ID: <020b01c8bf97$0e3f5e60$2abe1b20$@com.au> [Adding list back in] > I'm not using an Exchange server (just Pop3). > > Yes, Personal Folders\Inbox is where all my new email arrives. If it's > spam, I highlight and move it to a folder I created under the Inbox. > Initially, I moved it to the folder SpamBayes created, named Junk E- > Mail. > Neither system has worked. I tried training on the Junk E-Mail folder > contents, then moved everything to my own Spam folder and trained on > that. > > I also spent some days just hitting the Delete As Spam button (frown > face). > > I must have something set up wrong, or maybe I need to reinstall > SpamBayes. It doesn't seem to be setup incorrectly, as the log indicates it is trying to watch the Inbox for filtering. Eg, my log shows: """ SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Personal Folders/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Personal Folders/Spam' Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer FAILED to add the toolbar item 'SpamBayesCommand.Manager' - (-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.', (0, None, None, None, 0, -2147467259), None) The above toolbar message is common - recreating the toolbar... Message 'Re: DirectoryWatcher (rough draft)' in 'Personal Folders/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message ... """ Which looks roughly the same as yours - note however that mine does show messages being processed. I think I recall you were watching the "maybe" folder, which is probably wrong, but doesn't explain why SB isn't seeing new messages that arrive in your inbox. I'm afraid I've no other ideas :( Mark From amedee at amedee.be Tue May 27 10:18:29 2008 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 10:18:29 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Spambayes] Just subscribed; have quick question In-Reply-To: <000001c8bf85$c3e68840$8501fea9@owner9d3767847> References: <000001c8bf85$c3e68840$8501fea9@owner9d3767847> Message-ID: <3301.193.121.250.194.1211876309.squirrel@intrepid.warp.be> On Tue, May 27, 2008 01:11, emailshere wrote: > Is this list the email version of the SpamBayes forum on nabble.com? No, it is the other way around. What you saw on nabble.com is merely an archive and web interface of this mailing list. The mailing list is the original thing. -- Amedee From emailshere at dslextreme.com Tue May 27 20:40:55 2008 From: emailshere at dslextreme.com (emailshere) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 11:40:55 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Just subscribed; have quick question In-Reply-To: <3301.193.121.250.194.1211876309.squirrel@intrepid.warp.be> Message-ID: <001801c8c029$32aeae80$8501fea9@owner9d3767847> Ok, thanks. SB -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Amedee Van Gasse Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 1:18 AM To: Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Just subscribed; have quick question On Tue, May 27, 2008 01:11, emailshere wrote: > Is this list the email version of the SpamBayes forum on nabble.com? No, it is the other way around. What you saw on nabble.com is merely an archive and web interface of this mailing list. The mailing list is the original thing. -- Amedee _______________________________________________ SpamBayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From emailshere at dslextreme.com Wed May 28 09:33:32 2008 From: emailshere at dslextreme.com (emailshere) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 00:33:32 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] 1031 Spam, 461 Good, Processed ZERO In-Reply-To: <020b01c8bf97$0e3f5e60$2abe1b20$@com.au> Message-ID: <000001c8c095$21cb2280$8501fea9@owner9d3767847> Mark, the log file section you copied here is almost exactly the same as mine (I recopied mine at the bottom of this post)-- the only difference I can see is your watched folder is the Junk folder SB creates, and mine is the Spam folder I created. However, I initially had it watching the default Junk folder and when that wasn't working, I moved all the spam into my own junk email folder -- shouldn't make a difference, it seems to me. The odd thing is....the wording of this portion of your (and my) log file makes it sound like something is going terribly wrong ("a timer FAILED," "Exception occured,"classification of No Message"), yet you say the program is working for you. What wording do you see in this portion of your log file that indicates it's processing? I've studied it over and over, but I'm not seeing what you're seeing, I guess. When I click Diagnostics, it says Log file verbosity 0. Is that ok? Are there SourceForge techs reading this list? Should I submit a bug report? Thanks, SB (those really are my initials) -----Original Message----- From: Mark Hammond [mailto:mhammond at skippinet.com.au] Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 6:15 PM To: 'emailshere' Cc: spambayes at python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] 1031 Spam, 461 Good, Processed ZERO [Adding list back in] > I'm not using an Exchange server (just Pop3). > > Yes, Personal Folders\Inbox is where all my new email arrives. If > it's spam, I highlight and move it to a folder I created under the > Inbox. Initially, I moved it to the folder SpamBayes created, named > Junk E- Mail. Neither system has worked. I tried training on the Junk > E-Mail folder contents, then moved everything to my own Spam folder > and trained on that. > > I also spent some days just hitting the Delete As Spam button (frown > face). > > I must have something set up wrong, or maybe I need to reinstall > SpamBayes. It doesn't seem to be setup incorrectly, as the log indicates it is trying to watch the Inbox for filtering. Eg, my log shows: """ SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Personal Folders/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Personal Folders/Spam' Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer FAILED to add the toolbar item 'SpamBayesCommand.Manager' - (-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.', (0, None, None, None, 0, -2147467259), None) The above toolbar message is common - recreating the toolbar... Message 'Re: DirectoryWatcher (rough draft)' in 'Personal Folders/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message ... """ Which looks roughly the same as yours - note however that mine does show messages being processed. I think I recall you were watching the "maybe" folder, which is probably wrong, but doesn't explain why SB isn't seeing new messages that arrive in your inbox. I'm afraid I've no other ideas :( Mark SB's Log File: Loaded bayes database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db' Loaded message database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db' Bayes database initialized with 1031 spam and 461 good messages SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0.4 (March 2005) starting (with engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004)) on Windows 5.1.2600 (Service Pack 2) using Python 2.3.5 (#62, Feb 8 2005, 16:23:02) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Personal Folders/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Personal Folders/Junk E-Mail' Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer FAILED to add the toolbar item 'SpamBayesCommand.Manager' - (- 2147352567, 'Exception occurred.', (0, None, None, None, 0, -2147467259), None) The above toolbar message is common - recreating the toolbar... FAILED to add the toolbar item 'SpamBayesCommand.Manager' - (- 2147352567, 'Exception occurred.', (0, None, None, None, 0, -2147467259), None) The above toolbar message is common - recreating the toolbar... Saving configuration - C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Application Data\SpamBayes\Outlook.ini SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Personal Folders/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Personal Folders/Junk E-Mail' From mhammond at skippinet.com.au Wed May 28 15:47:21 2008 From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 23:47:21 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] 1031 Spam, 461 Good, Processed ZERO In-Reply-To: <000001c8c095$21cb2280$8501fea9@owner9d3767847> References: <020b01c8bf97$0e3f5e60$2abe1b20$@com.au> <000001c8c095$21cb2280$8501fea9@owner9d3767847> Message-ID: <004d01c8c0c9$5de11250$19a336f0$@com.au> > The odd thing is....the wording of this portion of your (and my) log > file makes it sound like something is going terribly wrong ("a timer > FAILED," > "Exception occured,"classification of No Message") I can't see that in the log you posted. I do see: FAILED to add the toolbar item ... but that *is* normal (but I agree the message is scary) > yet you say the program > is working for you. What wording do you see in this portion of your > log file that indicates it's processing? I've studied it over and > over, but I'm not seeing what you're seeing, I guess. The last 2 lines I pasted from my log: > Message 'Re: DirectoryWatcher (rough draft)' in 'Personal Folders/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' > Message ... Each of these lines corresponds to a mail that arrived and was scored/filtered. > When I click Diagnostics, it says Log file verbosity 0. Is that ok? It should be, yeah - but try raising it to 3 or 4, and see if anything else interesting appears. Also, try adding the "Spam" column to your view (see the FAQ for details) - it would be interesting to know if your newly arrived mail gets scored at all. > Are there SourceForge techs reading this list? Not SF techs, but spambayes developers, yeah - for Outlook, I'm pretty much it these days :) > Should I submit a bug report? If you like, but its unlikely to help :( Mark From Andoni.OConchubhair at fmr.com Wed May 28 18:31:09 2008 From: Andoni.OConchubhair at fmr.com (OConchubhair, Andoni) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 17:31:09 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Running filter.py Message-ID: <482B687A2184824D89145C74E6A540A2D7D02F@MSGGALCLA2WIN.DMN1.FMR.COM> Hi, I am using SpamBayes in Outlook as a plugin. I don't have any python.exe file but instead only some .dll files: outlook_addin.dll python23.dll and two outlook_addin_register.exe and outlook_dump_props.exe files. I'm running windows. I didn't install this so the installer my have deleted it if it is not necessary to run but I would have thought that deleting it would have killed python no? Therefore I don't see where I can run the filter.py file to force the filter in my plugin to run, can somebody please advise? Thank you, Andoni. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mhammond at skippinet.com.au Thu May 29 10:20:02 2008 From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 18:20:02 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] Running filter.py In-Reply-To: <482B687A2184824D89145C74E6A540A2D7D02F@MSGGALCLA2WIN.DMN1.FMR.COM> References: <482B687A2184824D89145C74E6A540A2D7D02F@MSGGALCLA2WIN.DMN1.FMR.COM> Message-ID: <011201c8c164$d3af4ab0$7b0de010$@com.au> The instructions you read were for running from source code. Instead, you can select "Filter Messages." from the Spambayes toolbar dropdown. Cheers, Mark From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of OConchubhair, Andoni Sent: Thursday, 29 May 2008 2:31 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Running filter.py Hi, I am using SpamBayes in Outlook as a plugin. I don't have any python.exe file but instead only some .dll files: outlook_addin.dll python23.dll and two outlook_addin_register.exe and outlook_dump_props.exe files. I'm running windows. I didn't install this so the installer my have deleted it if it is not necessary to run but I would have thought that deleting it would have killed python no? Therefore I don't see where I can run the filter.py file to force the filter in my plugin to run, can somebody please advise? Thank you, Andoni. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Andoni.OConchubhair at fmr.com Thu May 29 10:47:33 2008 From: Andoni.OConchubhair at fmr.com (OConchubhair, Andoni) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 09:47:33 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Running filter.py Message-ID: <482B687A2184824D89145C74E6A540A2633BCE@MSGGALCLA2WIN.DMN1.FMR.COM> Thanks Mark. Unfortunately that doesn't solve my problem. I need to be able to click that button using a Windows batch file (a .cmd file). So I was hoping I could do a call to some python program which would have the same effect as clicking that button. Can I run filter.py from the command line in some way to do this? Thanks, Andoni. _____ From: Mark Hammond [mailto:mhammond at skippinet.com.au] Sent: 29 May 2008 09:20 To: OConchubhair, Andoni; spambayes at python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Running filter.py The instructions you read were for running from source code. Instead, you can select "Filter Messages..." from the Spambayes toolbar dropdown. Cheers, Mark From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of OConchubhair, Andoni Sent: Thursday, 29 May 2008 2:31 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Running filter.py Hi, I am using SpamBayes in Outlook as a plugin. I don't have any python.exe file but instead only some .dll files: outlook_addin.dll python23.dll and two outlook_addin_register.exe and outlook_dump_props.exe files. I'm running windows. I didn't install this so the installer my have deleted it if it is not necessary to run but I would have thought that deleting it would have killed python no? Therefore I don't see where I can run the filter.py file to force the filter in my plugin to run, can somebody please advise? Thank you, Andoni. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mhammond at skippinet.com.au Thu May 29 14:34:14 2008 From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 22:34:14 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] Running filter.py In-Reply-To: <482B687A2184824D89145C74E6A540A2633BCE@MSGGALCLA2WIN.DMN1.FMR.COM> References: <482B687A2184824D89145C74E6A540A2633BCE@MSGGALCLA2WIN.DMN1.FMR.COM> Message-ID: <015001c8c188$50cc2bd0$f2648370$@com.au> I'm afraid not without hacking on the Python source code and taking a fair bit of pain :( It might be worth seeing of some VB or similar code can be used to invoke any Outlook toolbar coommand, and use that to hit that option I pointed at. Cheers, Mark From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of OConchubhair, Andoni Sent: Thursday, 29 May 2008 6:48 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Running filter.py Thanks Mark. Unfortunately that doesn't solve my problem. I need to be able to click that button using a Windows batch file (a .cmd file). So I was hoping I could do a call to some python program which would have the same effect as clicking that button. Can I run filter.py from the command line in some way to do this? Thanks, Andoni. _____ From: Mark Hammond [mailto:mhammond at skippinet.com.au] Sent: 29 May 2008 09:20 To: OConchubhair, Andoni; spambayes at python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Running filter.py The instructions you read were for running from source code. Instead, you can select "Filter Messages." from the Spambayes toolbar dropdown. Cheers, Mark From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of OConchubhair, Andoni Sent: Thursday, 29 May 2008 2:31 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Running filter.py Hi, I am using SpamBayes in Outlook as a plugin. I don't have any python.exe file but instead only some .dll files: outlook_addin.dll python23.dll and two outlook_addin_register.exe and outlook_dump_props.exe files. I'm running windows. I didn't install this so the installer my have deleted it if it is not necessary to run but I would have thought that deleting it would have killed python no? Therefore I don't see where I can run the filter.py file to force the filter in my plugin to run, can somebody please advise? Thank you, Andoni. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skip at pobox.com Wed May 28 15:27:42 2008 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 08:27:42 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] 1031 Spam, 461 Good, Processed ZERO In-Reply-To: <000001c8c095$21cb2280$8501fea9@owner9d3767847> References: <020b01c8bf97$0e3f5e60$2abe1b20$@com.au> <000001c8c095$21cb2280$8501fea9@owner9d3767847> Message-ID: <18493.24014.727962.610655@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> SB> The odd thing is....the wording of this portion of your (and my) log SB> file makes it sound like something is going terribly wrong ("a timer SB> FAILED," "Exception occured,"classification of No Message"), yet you SB> say the program is working for you. I can't contribute anything technical to this discussion since I don't use the Outlook plugin myself, but I will note that since Mark is the author of the plugin he's more than likely able to get it to work. ;-) SB> Are there SourceForge techs reading this list? SB> Should I submit a bug report? If you think there is a bug, then sure, documenting what you see as a bug report is a good idea, even if it turns out not to be. Skip From skip at pobox.com Tue May 27 02:47:36 2008 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 19:47:36 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Just subscribed; have quick question In-Reply-To: <000001c8bf85$c3e68840$8501fea9@owner9d3767847> References: <000001c8bf85$c3e68840$8501fea9@owner9d3767847> Message-ID: <18491.23080.908589.632698@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> SB> Is this list the email version of the SpamBayes forum on nabble.com? You can think of it that way. I prefer to think of the Nabble forum as a forumized version of the SpamBayes mailing list though. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ "Be different, express yourself like everyone else." From Andoni.OConchubhair at fmr.com Thu May 29 17:21:22 2008 From: Andoni.OConchubhair at fmr.com (OConchubhair, Andoni) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 16:21:22 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Running filter.py Message-ID: <482B687A2184824D89145C74E6A540A2D7D03B@MSGGALCLA2WIN.DMN1.FMR.COM> Thanks Mark. I'll have a go at trying to get to it this way. I'm not hopeful though. If I get anything generic working that is worth sharing I'll let you know. Andoni _____ From: Mark Hammond [mailto:mhammond at skippinet.com.au] Sent: 29 May 2008 13:34 To: OConchubhair, Andoni; spambayes at python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Running filter.py I'm afraid not without hacking on the Python source code and taking a fair bit of pain :( It might be worth seeing of some VB or similar code can be used to invoke any Outlook toolbar coommand, and use that to hit that option I pointed at... Cheers, Mark From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of OConchubhair, Andoni Sent: Thursday, 29 May 2008 6:48 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Running filter.py Thanks Mark. Unfortunately that doesn't solve my problem. I need to be able to click that button using a Windows batch file (a .cmd file). So I was hoping I could do a call to some python program which would have the same effect as clicking that button. Can I run filter.py from the command line in some way to do this? Thanks, Andoni. _____ From: Mark Hammond [mailto:mhammond at skippinet.com.au] Sent: 29 May 2008 09:20 To: OConchubhair, Andoni; spambayes at python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Running filter.py The instructions you read were for running from source code. Instead, you can select "Filter Messages..." from the Spambayes toolbar dropdown. Cheers, Mark From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of OConchubhair, Andoni Sent: Thursday, 29 May 2008 2:31 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Running filter.py Hi, I am using SpamBayes in Outlook as a plugin. I don't have any python.exe file but instead only some .dll files: outlook_addin.dll python23.dll and two outlook_addin_register.exe and outlook_dump_props.exe files. I'm running windows. I didn't install this so the installer my have deleted it if it is not necessary to run but I would have thought that deleting it would have killed python no? Therefore I don't see where I can run the filter.py file to force the filter in my plugin to run, can somebody please advise? Thank you, Andoni. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jason at jnlpro.com Fri May 30 20:22:31 2008 From: jason at jnlpro.com (Jason N Lee) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 14:22:31 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2k3, SB 1.04, 5-6 seconds per message, normal? Message-ID: <000001c8c282$1fe2e680$2f6418ac@bowie> Hello world! Been using SpamBayes for gosh darned near 3 or 4 years now, it seems. Wonderful product, through and through, keeps me sane when it comes to all the spam my domains get hit with. About a year ago I noticed that the time to process messages was getting longer and longer. At the same time I had several other applications running slowly, and I naively attributed this to "Oh dear, it's been 5 years, time to upgrade the PC..." Well, built the new system (Intel quad core, 3GB ram, etc), installed Outlook, SpamBayes, and well... I'm surprised to discover that the Outlook processing time has not really changed at all. Digging a bit further, it looks like Outlook is hardly taxing the CPU, or the memory. Some part of MS's MSAPI32.DLL is definitely interrupting some other component of Windows, however, because occasionally the processing will down right stall the entire OS. I had the opportunity to try this installation two separate ways - a fresh clean Windows XP SP2 install, with Outlook, and SpamBayes, and then an installation with several other applications (Symantec AV, NOD32, ZoneAlarm, etc) rotated in and out. So far I have not found any clear program that slows it down more or speeds it up. So with all that introduction out of the way. is 5-6 seconds per message a normal figure? Here are some stats, and by all means, tell me if you'd like more or other stats: I am running Windows XP SP2 with latest patches up to SP3, with 4GB of RAM (32bit though so only approx 3.3GB is usable by the OS) I am running Outlook 2003 SP3 with the latest patches etc. My Outlook PST is approximately 500k , approximately 14,000 messages inside it. I have two rules scanning my inbox in Outlook, trying to capture bounced messages to spam that is falsely being labeled as my address. I have ZoneAlarm 7.xx running, however I have disabled its mail interception options. I have Symantec Corporate AntiVirus 10.xx running, however I have disabled its mail interception options. I have attempted to flat out disable the above applications as well as the Outlook rules to see if this effects processing time. It has had no effect. Using Process Explorer I see Outlook.exe only get up to a peak of 5% of the available CPU, and every few seconds it has an I/O as it retrieves the next email. Pause, retrieve, pause, retrieve. MSAPI32.DLL is the busiest process there, but, well, I assume that to be Outlook.. My log is not very verbose, I think, perhaps I should make it more verbose? >From the last load: Loaded bayes database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\censored\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db' Loaded message database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\censored\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db' Bayes database initialized with 8050 spam and 2595 good messages SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0.4 (March 2005) starting (with engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004)) on Windows 5.1.2600 (Service Pack 2) using Python 2.3.5 (#62, Feb 8 2005, 16:23:02) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Personal Folders/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Personal Folders/spamhut' Message 'Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender' in 'Personal Folders/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Processing 1 missed spam in folder 'Inbox' took 67.2857ms Ok, and now, last but not least, this has decided to mock me because in my latest send/receive the system blazed through about 100 pieces of spam in just about 2 minutes. All that changed between when I started this message and ended this message is I had reviewed the log file to get the above quote. I also exited Outlook, waited for it to close (seems to take an extra minute or so before the actual process ends, even after the window closes), and then restarted Outlook twice while messing with the verbosity settings. The first time I entered Outlook, it was slow, the second time, it just went fast to punish me. What in the world! Could it just be the types of spam are different, and something is having trouble with one kind of spam while other kinds of spam are fast? The majority of my processes are slow, I have to keep Outlook running and checking continuously otherwise I will get a backlog of messages that will take 1-2 hours to process. Thanks for reading this long rambling post. Any feedback or advice would be most welcome.. ! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Exactly the same thing happens if I highlight an email to train as spam. OR to untrained as spam from the junk-email folder...... Outlook comes up with the same "about to close" message. when i click the button it then closes down. . The training or untraining is carried out. I have uninstalled and reinstalled outlook. I have downloaded the latest updates of outlook and Office. I have uninstalled and re installed Spambayes. But its still happens The computers are HP Compaq mostly Pentium 4 or Dual core. All running Windows XP 2002, SP2 Any help would be appreciated Regards Eric Rossiter Regards Eric Rossiter -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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