From tom at hartdesign.us Mon Oct 1 03:29:07 2007 From: tom at hartdesign.us (Tom Hart) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 21:29:07 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] My delete as spam button stopped working Message-ID: My delete as spam button stopped working. Nothing happens when I click (even when I change folders). Using outlook 2000, and SpamBayes seems to be sorting thing well. Best Wishes, Tom Hart 201-646-9275 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070930/e0340a5e/attachment.htm From Giftedmy at aol.com Mon Oct 1 16:00:21 2007 From: Giftedmy at aol.com (Giftedmy at aol.com) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 10:00:21 EDT Subject: [Spambayes] retrieving a deleted spam e-mail Message-ID: i recently deleted a spam e-mail which wasn't spam. Can I retrieve it? ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20071001/cd157e47/attachment.htm From jsp at PKC.com Mon Oct 1 16:53:32 2007 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 10:53:32 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] retrieving a deleted spam e-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905EF4241@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Whether you can retrieve deleted messages depends on your mail client. If it provides some sort of holding bin for deleted messages (a folder, trash can, recycle bin, or similar), you should be able to retrieve messages from there. Of course, once you empty such a bin, the messages are truly gone. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces+jsp=pkc.com at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces+jsp=pkc.com at python.org] On Behalf Of Giftedmy at aol.com Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 10:00 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] retrieving a deleted spam e-mail i recently deleted a spam e-mail which wasn't spam. Can I retrieve it? ________________________________ See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage . -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20071001/eed05593/attachment.htm From shcarson at msn.com Tue Oct 2 02:17:44 2007 From: shcarson at msn.com (Stephan H Carson) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 20:17:44 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Does SpamBayes 1.0.4 work with Outlook 2003 SP3 Message-ID: Does SpamBayes 1.0.4 work with Outlook 2003 SP3? My OS is Win XP SP2 Home Edition, SpamBayes 1.0.4 used to work with Outlook 2003 SP2, but not with SP3 since I upgraded. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20071001/20470ed2/attachment.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Bob From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Jesse Pelton Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 11:03 AM To: Jan Bouterse; spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] question The only way to know for sure is to disable or remove it and anything else that might be adding the prefix. But I'd start by talking to the mail server administrator in case they're running some spam filter before the message reaches your machine. _____ From: Jan Bouterse [mailto:janb at hardwooddesigns.com] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 10:28 AM To: Jesse Pelton Subject: RE: [Spambayes] question hmm, FYI, this is what I found: http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.outlook.general/browse_t hread/thread/fccef4189a087ecf/37ca56baa18bcfde?lnk=raot I don't think Norton is the cause. thanks you for helping, in advance, Jan Bouterse, Director of Business Development Hardwood Designs, Inc. 511 Valley Forge Rd. Hillsborough, NC 27278 phone 919-643-1100 fax 919-643-1101 www.hardwooddesigns.com "The information contained in this correspondence may be considered confidential and proprietary. Distribute only by the express authority of Hardwood Designs Inc." _____ From: Jesse Pelton [mailto:jsp at PKC.com] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 9:42 AM To: Jan Bouterse; spambayes at python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] question I don't think that's coming from SpamBayes. Maybe Outlook or your mail server adds that as a service of sorts; you could try contacting the administrator of your mail server. See http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/2007-September/021212.html for a recent discussion of a similar issue (with no real resolution, unfortunately.) _____ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Jan Bouterse Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 9:28 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] question First, let me commend you on your awesome program! Please let me know how I get writ of the SPAM-LOW that appears in front of some of the subjects in outlook's "subject field" I thank you in advance, Jan Bouterse, Director of Business Development Hardwood Designs, Inc. 511 Valley Forge Rd. Hillsborough, NC 27278 phone 919-643-1100 fax 919-643-1101 www.hardwooddesigns.com "The information contained in this correspondence may be considered confidential and proprietary. Distribute only by the express authority of Hardwood Designs Inc." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Andy, Take a look at the SpamBayes FAQ: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html In particular, questions 1.6, 2.2 and 4.21 should help you get going. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ From skip at pobox.com Wed Oct 3 07:26:53 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 00:26:53 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] If you use the IMAP filter, I need a little help Message-ID: <18179.10269.795210.704216@montanaro.dyndns.org> Some people have reported problems with the IMAP filter when it tries to process certain not-terribly-well-formed emails. I haven't been able to reproduce this with the standard Unix SpamBayes filter and I don't use the IMAP filter myself (or have an IMAP server to connect one to). If you use the IMAP filter and would like to help me out, just reply to this message. I'll try forwarding you one or two of the problematic emails I've received. They are spam, but are written in Spanish, so they may well not get scored as spam. They score as spammy-but-not-terribly-so for me. Thanks, Skip From jsp at PKC.com Wed Oct 3 14:50:54 2007 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 08:50:54 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] FW: question Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905F8E2D2@PKCVT01.pkc.com> There's some useful information in this previously private exchange, so I'm forwarding to the list (with Bob's permission) so it will be archived. ________________________________ From: Coe, Bob [mailto:rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 12:19 PM To: Jesse Pelton Subject: RE: [Spambayes] question I think you're probably right. AFAIK, any spam filtering done at the Exchange level wouldn't be overridable by a user. The caveat to that is that we're still running an ancient version of Exchange pending our upgrade to 2007 later in the fall. But I'll be surprised if the new version changes that behavior much. BTW, turning off Outlook's filtering is a very good idea, IMO. My experience was that it generated a lot of false positives. I finally turned it off and rely exclusively on Spambayes to mop up what our Barracuda doesn't catch. From: Jesse Pelton [mailto:jsp at PKC.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 11:17 AM To: Coe, Bob Subject: RE: [Spambayes] question Yeah, I was sloppy and should have been more specific, rather than treating Outlook and Exchange as if they're the same thing. You can turn off Outlook's filtering, but as far as I know, ordinary users can't prevent Exchange's Intelligent Message Filter from putting messages in their Junk folder. Only the Exchange administrator can do that, and then only on a global basis. Our administrator was unwilling to do that, with reason, since SpamBayes users are in the minority here. Caveat: My understanding is based in part on interpreting pages 7 - 10 of the "Microsoft Exchange Server Intelligent Message Filter v2 Operations Guide" available at http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa996624.aspx, but the document is somewhat ambiguous and I may have misunderstood. ________________________________ From: Coe, Bob [mailto:rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 10:10 AM To: Jesse Pelton Subject: RE: [Spambayes] question Jesse, In the discussion you cited, you're quoted as believing that Outlook's spam filtering can't be turned off. That's certainly not the case in Outlook 2007 nor (as I recall) in Outlook 2003. In Outlook 2007 (the only one I have in front of me at the moment) it's Tools - Options - Junk E-mail - No Automatic Filtering. Bob From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Jesse Pelton Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 9:42 AM To: Jan Bouterse; spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] question I don't think that's coming from SpamBayes. Maybe Outlook or your mail server adds that as a service of sorts; you could try contacting the administrator of your mail server. See http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/2007-September/021212.html for a recent discussion of a similar issue (with no real resolution, unfortunately.) ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Jan Bouterse Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 9:28 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] question First, let me commend you on your awesome program! Please let me know how I get writ of the SPAM-LOW that appears in front of some of the subjects in outlook's "subject field" I thank you in advance, Jan Bouterse, Director of Business Development Hardwood Designs, Inc. 511 Valley Forge Rd. Hillsborough, NC 27278 phone 919-643-1100 fax 919-643-1101 www.hardwooddesigns.com "The information contained in this correspondence may be considered confidential and proprietary. Distribute only by the express authority of Hardwood Designs Inc." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20071003/11510935/attachment.htm From Aether002 at cobaltnight.com Thu Oct 4 05:22:38 2007 From: Aether002 at cobaltnight.com (Aether002) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 23:22:38 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Individual DBs for Multiple Outlook Profiles? Message-ID: <000001c80635$d9b7e4c0$8d27ae40$@com> Installing SpamBayes 1.1a4 on Outlook 2007 (in WinXP Pro), I see that by default, the same database is used for all Outlook Profiles. How can I set up SpamBayes so that it uses a seperate database for each Outlook Profile? Thanks! aether002 at cobaltnight.com From Larry at DrTavel.com Thu Oct 4 17:46:16 2007 From: Larry at DrTavel.com (Larry Tavel) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 11:46:16 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] quick question Message-ID: I have two sets of buttons for Spam bayes on my outlook toolbar. Does it make a difference which ?delete as Spam? button I use and can I and should I remove one. And if so, how? Thanks Larry Larry S. Tavel, MD President Dr. Tavel Group 2839 Lafayette Rd. Indianapolis, Indiana 46222-2147 317-924-1300 317-924-3741 (fax) www.drtavel.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, Peter Toye mailto:peter at ptoye.com www.ptoye.com Training... 500 Server error Traceback (most recent call last): File "spambayes\Dibbler.pyc", line 470, in found_terminator File "spambayes\ProxyUI.pyc", line 396, in onReview File "spambayes\Corpus.pyc", line 214, in takeMessage File "spambayes\FileCorpus.pyc", line 140, in addMessage File "spambayes\Corpus.pyc", line 134, in addMessage File "spambayes\storage.pyc", line 617, in onAddMessage File "spambayes\storage.pyc", line 625, in train File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 273, in learn File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 384, in _add_msg File "spambayes\storage.pyc", line 304, in _wordinfoset File "shelve.pyc", line 130, in __setitem__ File "bsddb\__init__.pyc", line 120, in __setitem__ DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') From rd.preece at ukonline.co.uk Tue Oct 2 21:51:07 2007 From: rd.preece at ukonline.co.uk (rd.preece) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 20:51:07 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] MORE THAN ONE MS WINDOWS ACCOUNT Message-ID: <002c01c8052d$94087ab0$2101a8c0@RDPREECE> SPAMBAYES WORKS FINE IN MY MS OUTLOOK. JUST THE TRICK. BUT I CANNOT SEEM TO INSTALL SPAMBAYES ON A SECOND WINDOWS ACCOUNT USER?S OUTLOOK PACKAGE. ANY IDEAS? RICH PREECE NEW: 07715 994 360 HOME: 01785 824 202 HYPERLINK "http://www.myspace.com/rdp100"MY SPACE HYPERLINK "http://www.flickr.com/photos/66232820 at N00/"MY PHOTOS HYPERLINK "http://www.britishcycling.org.uk/web/site/BC/Rankings/RankingsRider.asp?ran k_discipline=Road+%26+Track&rank_cat=2nd&rank_region=%7BD2864743-9224-47D3-B 175-74A55E52097B%7D"MY RANKINGS HYPERLINK "http://www.multimap.com/maps/#t=l&map=52.78592,-2.24902|17|4&loc=GB:52.7859 2:-2.24902:16|ST200QS|ST20%200QS"MY HOME No. 20 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.39/1044 - Release Date: 02/10/2007 11:10 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The only remedy is to delete your database and retrain from scratch. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ From skip at pobox.com Fri Oct 5 11:58:30 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 04:58:30 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes is crashing In-Reply-To: <1014907408.20071005092256@ptoye.com> References: <172505128.20071004213549@ptoye.com> <18181.40214.334149.941793@montanaro.dyndns.org> <1014907408.20071005092256@ptoye.com> Message-ID: <18182.2758.803885.218331@montanaro.dyndns.org> Peter> Thanks. How do I do that? Just delete the contents of Application Peter> Data/SpamBayes, or do I have to leave some sort of structure Peter> behind? I couldn't find anything on the website or the wiki about Peter> it. That's a good question. I don't use Windows so I have no direct experience with where things are located. Go to the SpamBayes website (http://www.spambayes.org/) and locate the troubleshooting guide for Windows. I might well tell you how to find and delete your database. If not, someone here (on the spambayes list) can problem tell you. Peter> This is a bit worrying - my firewall also seems to have been Peter> corrupted. Is it a coincidence that two of my security programs Peter> have been corrupted at the same time? I wouldn't think so unless you have a problem with your disk. The usual cause of database corruption is having two programs writing the file at the same time. That shouldn't normally be an issue on Windows. Has it gone blue screen on you recently? There must be some sort of disk checking facility on the box to check the filesystem integrity. Give that a whirl. Skip From jzeis at carrolltonsurgical.com Fri Oct 5 15:19:22 2007 From: jzeis at carrolltonsurgical.com (Jan Zeis) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 08:19:22 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Message-ID: <000201c80752$5b6f9090$a405010a@ws243> By mistake I deleted one of the folders that spambaye set up automatically with I installed the program. Can you tell me how to restore the original settings? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Creed) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 12:58:43 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Plug-in fails to load Message-ID: <6AC71BFAD8584DDEB7993E671064AAF7@mercator.jecreed.com> For what appears to be no reason at all the SpamBayes plug-in refuses to load, I've been using SpamBayes for years without any problem and am using version 1.0.4 for Windows Server 2003 / Outlook 2003 when suddenly the other day I noticed SPAM wasn't going into the correct folder and I couldn't access the Spam Bayes Manager button, then I noticed the plug-in isn't loading when Outlook starts up. I've tried an un-install / re-install but that didn't help. Any idea what's wrong and what I should try next, I miss SpamBayes already? Sincerely, John E. Creed John E. Creed 317-889-3561 home 317-408-2074 mobile -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The FAQ is , the troubleshooting guide in question 3.1 of the FAQ. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ From jcreed at insightbb.com Fri Oct 5 19:39:16 2007 From: jcreed at insightbb.com (John E. Creed) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 13:39:16 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Plug-in fails to load In-Reply-To: <18182.28838.57044.486202@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: Thanks Skip. I had looked at the FAQ but didn't see one that specifically mentioned Plug-in problems, but your right the link of FAQ 3.1 helped out. I had to do the Help / About Outlook / Disabled Items / Re-enable trick to get the SpamBayes plug-in working again. There was a pretty nasty Outlook crash / hang that happened a couple days ago and I suspect that's when Outlook disabled the SpamBayes plug-in. It's working fine now. Thanks again for your help. Sincerely, John Creed > -----Original Message----- > From: skip at pobox.com [mailto:skip at pobox.com] > Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 1:13 PM > To: John E. Creed > Cc: spambayes at python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Plug-in fails to load > > > John> I've tried an un-install / re-install but that > didn't help. Any > John> idea what's wrong and what I should try next, I > miss SpamBayes > John> already? > > Did you read through the SpamBayes FAQ and the Outlook Plugin > troubleshooting guide? The FAQ is at://www.spambayes.org/faq.html>, the troubleshooting guide > in question 3.1 of the FAQ. > > -- > Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ From Aether002 at cobaltnight.com Fri Oct 5 23:34:51 2007 From: Aether002 at cobaltnight.com (Aether002) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 17:34:51 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Options files? And would they allow seperate DBs for multiple profiles? Message-ID: <000901c80797$978a79b0$c69f6d10$@com> I'm still trying to figure out if there's any way 1.1a4 on Outlook 2007 (WinXP Pro) can be configured to use a seperate database for each Outlook Profile. It occurs to me that this might be one of the advanced options that can be set in the INI files, however, while the documentation mentions the "outlook-options.ini" file as the place to go to see what all the Outlook specific options are, I can't for the life of me find that file. Am I blind, or is it not where it's supposed to be? Also, if anyone knows how to accomplish my original goal (of the seperate DBs for each Outlook Profile), I still need help there! Thanks! From ldcarp at verizon.net Sun Oct 7 00:01:38 2007 From: ldcarp at verizon.net (ldcarpenter) Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 17:01:38 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] FW: Message-ID: <004f01c80864$7877ad40$696707c0$@net> Has a bot taken over your computer? From: Reed [mailto:xoutstanding3 at general-data.com] Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 5:22 PM To: bridges204 at verizon.net Subject: his the breath druggist fatted Ra_Vi _Ag - $1.77 S>_ >o _ >m -a - $0.63 S _Ic_A -LI S - $2.62 Re >genisis H _G _H Fe _m _ale Pr _oduct STAYFEET.CN nje vjedz ce co robjic rozesmja o -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20071006/d00fcb53/attachment.htm From dcktso at googlemail.com Mon Oct 8 10:30:58 2007 From: dcktso at googlemail.com (Dave Kemp) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 09:30:58 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes load error - Bad Pickle Data?? Message-ID: <000401c80985$8ec73760$0b01a8c0@Condk01> All, A recent system crash managed to corrupt my thunderbird installation. Now nearly all recovered - just one problem left with Thunderbayes. Loading Thunderbird gives the following error: Acknowledging this allows me to go and load thunderbird OK, and Spambayes then works OK, but it still annoying. A copy of the file is attached. I've looked at the FAQ - nothing obvious caught my eye, and I've uninstalled and reinstalled both Thunderbird and Spambayes, but to no avail. Any help most welcome Currently running Thunderbird 2.8.8.6 Spambayes 1.0.1 Windows XP, patched up to date. With thanks Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20071008/f3120856/attachment.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 15299 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20071008/f3120856/attachment.jpeg -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <000401c80985$8ec73760$0b01a8c0@Condk01> References: <000401c80985$8ec73760$0b01a8c0@Condk01> Message-ID: <18186.10834.954447.692515@montanaro.dyndns.org> Dave> I've looked at the FAQ - nothing obvious caught my eye, and I've Dave> uninstalled and reinstalled both Thunderbird and Spambayes, but to Dave> no avail. Have you tried retraining from scratch? Sounds like your training database got trashed. Dave> Thunderbird 2.8.8.6 Dave> Spambayes 1.0.1 Dave> Windows XP, patched up to date. I think you mean 2.0.0.6 for the T-Bird version. 1.0.1 is pretty darn ancient SpamBayes. I recommend you download at least 1.0.4. Better yet would be to give 1.1a4 a try. We can always use feedback on the latest alpha from Windows users. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ From dale at BriannasSaladDressing.com Mon Oct 8 16:08:49 2007 From: dale at BriannasSaladDressing.com (Dale Schroeder) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 09:08:49 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] ham,Re: Spambayes load error - Bad Pickle Data?? In-Reply-To: <18186.10834.954447.692515@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <000401c80985$8ec73760$0b01a8c0@Condk01> <18186.10834.954447.692515@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <470A39F1.1000105@BriannasSaladDressing.com> I wonder if he meant ThunderBayes 1.0.1? At some point since the installation of this version of ThunderBayes, I have been having SpamBayes crash problems on our local network. Spambayes is Debian version 1.0.4-3. Clients are Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 with the aforementioned ThunderBayes 1.0.1. I have not been able to locate where SpamBayes errors are logged in Debian. Not being able to find them, if they even exist, I started over with a new dbm database. Shortly after the 1st users started their email this morning, SpamBayes started crashing. I am now more inclined to believe it is something with the clients, but don't know where to look for clues. The latest ThunderBayes has a default option of "Use internal SpamBayes proxy". Since I am using a server-based SpamBayes setup, could that be the source of the problem? Dale skip at pobox.com wrote: > > Dave> I've looked at the FAQ - nothing obvious caught my eye, and I've > Dave> uninstalled and reinstalled both Thunderbird and Spambayes, but to > Dave> no avail. > > Have you tried retraining from scratch? Sounds like your training database > got trashed. > > Dave> Thunderbird 2.8.8.6 > Dave> Spambayes 1.0.1 > Dave> Windows XP, patched up to date. > > I think you mean 2.0.0.6 for the T-Bird version. 1.0.1 is pretty darn > ancient SpamBayes. I recommend you download at least 1.0.4. Better yet > would be to give 1.1a4 a try. We can always use feedback on the latest > alpha from Windows users. > > From singraham at okcca.net Mon Oct 8 20:49:35 2007 From: singraham at okcca.net (Steve Ingraham) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 13:49:35 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] installing 1.0.4 in Outlook XP Message-ID: <088EFB279DB2A64688EE22B92FBEABA0247BA3@mxi2.occa.state.ok.us> I am having some problems that I would like to ask the list some advice on. We have been running Spambayes in Outlook for quite some time now. Things have been working very well until recently. Below is a list of some of the problems I have started seeing. Almost all of my users are using Spambayes Outlook Addin Binary 0.81 in Outlook 2002 running on Dell Inspirons with Windows XP Professional operating systems. Many of our users have started complaining that legitimate emails are being delivered to the Junk Suspect folder. When they "Recover from Spam" the email is placed back into the Inbox but the next time an email comes in from that user it goes back into the Junk Suspect folder. It appears Spambayes is not correctly retaining the training on these legitimate emails when the user "Recovers from Spam". Another issue that I think may be related is the creation of additional junk email folders. Several users have started noticing multiple junk email folders in Outlook (i.e. junk email, junk email2, spam, spamtrap). They are not manually creating these additional folders and many users are telling me they just saw the additional folder pop up one day. Any ideas on why Spambayes would be creating additional folders in Outlook? Another issue is related to installing the 1.0.4 version with Outlook. Most all of our users have had their computers upgraded from Windows 2000 Professional to Windows XP Professional operating systems when they received new Dell computers. On these new computers I started trying to upgrade Spambayes from Spambayes Outlook Addin Binary version 0.81 to Spambayes 1.0.4. I have gone to the website and downloaded the Spambayes 1.0.4 install package. When I set up the new computer I am logged in as an administrator. I install the Spambayes 1.0.4 and everything works fine. I then log into Outlook with the administrator account (my personal profile that has administrative rights). Spambayes begins its initial setup for that administrator account and everything functions normally. Everything looks as if it will work fine for the user's profile. However, when I set up the new user account on the computer and I log into Outlook using the user's profile for the first time there is no Spambayes. There is nothing that shows Spambayes was loaded onto the computer. The only way I have been able to resolve this problem is to log back in as administrator and uninstalling Spambayes 1.0.4. I then install the older version of Spambayes (Spambayes Outlook Addin Binary 0.81) that has worked in the past using the Spambayes Outlook Setup 0081.exe file. This allows me to then log in as the user and set up Spambayes which then functions. This is ok but it means that our machines do not have the updated version of Spambayes loaded. Is this an issue with version 1.0.4? Should I be using the 1.0.4 version with Outlook? Do I need to continue using the 0.81 addin with Outlook? Is using this older version possibly causing the training problems with legitimate emails? Could any or all of the above issues be related? If they are not related could someone address the possible causes and solutions for the particular issues? Thanks for the help, Steve -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20071008/0a1a1755/attachment.htm From jsp at PKC.com Mon Oct 8 21:12:19 2007 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 15:12:19 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] installing 1.0.4 in Outlook XP In-Reply-To: <088EFB279DB2A64688EE22B92FBEABA0247BA3@mxi2.occa.state.ok.us> References: <088EFB279DB2A64688EE22B92FBEABA0247BA3@mxi2.occa.state.ok.us> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905F8E97E@PKCVT01.pkc.com> 0.81 is ancient. I think the first order of business is to get everyone up to version 1.0.4 (if not the 1.1 alpha, which despite its alpha status is quite stable). Once you've installed it as administrator, go to the Troubleshooting Guide on the SpamBayes > Help menu and look for the section titled "SpamBayes is not available for all users on the machine." That should get you started. Given the filtering oddities, I'd consider having users retrain from scratch. It doesn't take long and may result in better filtering. You may also need to educate your users: the sender's address is a small part of what SpamBayes looks at when scoring messages. If a message appears to come from a trusted source but otherwise looks like spam, it'll probably be treated as spam. (And this is a good thing, since it's not hard to spoof a sender.) I don't recall ever using version 0.81, but I don't think SpamBayes has ever created folders on its own. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Steve Ingraham Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 2:50 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] installing 1.0.4 in Outlook XP I am having some problems that I would like to ask the list some advice on. We have been running Spambayes in Outlook for quite some time now. Things have been working very well until recently. Below is a list of some of the problems I have started seeing. Almost all of my users are using Spambayes Outlook Addin Binary 0.81 in Outlook 2002 running on Dell Inspirons with Windows XP Professional operating systems. Many of our users have started complaining that legitimate emails are being delivered to the Junk Suspect folder. When they "Recover from Spam" the email is placed back into the Inbox but the next time an email comes in from that user it goes back into the Junk Suspect folder. It appears Spambayes is not correctly retaining the training on these legitimate emails when the user "Recovers from Spam". Another issue that I think may be related is the creation of additional junk email folders. Several users have started noticing multiple junk email folders in Outlook (i.e. junk email, junk email2, spam, spamtrap). They are not manually creating these additional folders and many users are telling me they just saw the additional folder pop up one day. Any ideas on why Spambayes would be creating additional folders in Outlook? Another issue is related to installing the 1.0.4 version with Outlook. Most all of our users have had their computers upgraded from Windows 2000 Professional to Windows XP Professional operating systems when they received new Dell computers. On these new computers I started trying to upgrade Spambayes from Spambayes Outlook Addin Binary version 0.81 to Spambayes 1.0.4. I have gone to the website and downloaded the Spambayes 1.0.4 install package. When I set up the new computer I am logged in as an administrator. I install the Spambayes 1.0.4 and everything works fine. I then log into Outlook with the administrator account (my personal profile that has administrative rights). Spambayes begins its initial setup for that administrator account and everything functions normally. Everything looks as if it will work fine for the user's profile. However, when I set up the new user account on the computer and I log into Outlook using the user's profile for the first time there is no Spambayes. There is nothing that shows Spambayes was loaded onto the computer. The only way I have been able to resolve this problem is to log back in as administrator and uninstalling Spambayes 1.0.4. I then install the older version of Spambayes (Spambayes Outlook Addin Binary 0.81) that has worked in the past using the Spambayes Outlook Setup 0081.exe file. This allows me to then log in as the user and set up Spambayes which then functions. This is ok but it means that our machines do not have the updated version of Spambayes loaded. Is this an issue with version 1.0.4? Should I be using the 1.0.4 version with Outlook? Do I need to continue using the 0.81 addin with Outlook? Is using this older version possibly causing the training problems with legitimate emails? Could any or all of the above issues be related? If they are not related could someone address the possible causes and solutions for the particular issues? Thanks for the help, Steve -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20071008/20ce2787/attachment.htm From singraham at okcca.net Mon Oct 8 21:45:08 2007 From: singraham at okcca.net (Steve Ingraham) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:45:08 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] installing 1.0.4 in Outlook XP In-Reply-To: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905F8E97E@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Message-ID: <088EFB279DB2A64688EE22B92FBEABA0247BA4@mxi2.occa.state.ok.us> -----Original Message----- From: Jesse Pelton [mailto:jsp at PKC.com] Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 2:12 PM To: Steve Ingraham; spambayes at python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] installing 1.0.4 in Outlook XP >>> 0.81 is ancient. I think the first order of business is to get everyone up to version 1.0.4 (if not the 1.1 alpha, which despite its alpha status is quite stable). Once you've installed it as administrator, go to the Troubleshooting Guide on the SpamBayes Help menu and look for the section titled "SpamBayes is not available for all users on the machine." That should get you started. >>> Thanks Jesse for the information on the troubleshooting section of the documents. I had read the troubleshooting document but had stopped on the section concerning "addin doesn't load". Following the steps in the section you refer to above did fix the install issue with the user accounts. I can now log into Outlook as the user and configure Spambayes. >>> Given the filtering oddities, I'd consider having users retrain from scratch. It doesn't take long and may result in better filtering. You may also need to educate your users: the sender's address is a small part of what SpamBayes looks at when scoring messages. If a message appears to come from a trusted source but otherwise looks like spam, it'll probably be treated as spam. (And this is a good thing, since it's not hard to spoof a sender.) >>> As far as retraining, I have done this many times on these user's mailboxes. I have gone and deleted the additional folders and retrained Spambayes on their Inbox, Junk Email and Junk Suspect folders. The users still report emails are going to junk. I have not discussed the issue of other scores in Spambayes labeling the individual emails with any specific users yet. However, I have been trying to look out for that when I go to troubleshoot the issue. Most of the complaints are because an internal user's email (such as an email from me; singraham at okcca.net) went to their junk suspect folder. Even after weeks of "recovering from spam" emails from singraham at okcca.net emails are still going to the junk suspect folder. I would expect after some amount of time Spambayes would start accepting that all emails from singraham at okcca.net would be legitimate. Besides this, is there not a way to tell Spambayes that ALL emails from singraham at okcca.net should be delivered to the Inbox and not treated as spam? >>> I don't recall ever using version 0.81, but I don't think SpamBayes has ever created folders on its own. >>> Just now when configuring a new user on a computer after setting up Spambayes 1.0.4 on that computer I watched the Outlook folders to see if any new folders were created from the configuration of Spambayes. That user had a "Junk Email" folder but not a "Junk Suspect" folder. Once I told Spambayes to send suspected spam to a "Junk Suspect" folder and clicked "finished" at the end of the wizard Spambayes did create a new "Junk Suspect" folder. So at least in this scenario Spambayes did create a new folder when one did not exist before. Thanks, Steve From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Steve Ingraham Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 2:50 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] installing 1.0.4 in Outlook XP I am having some problems that I would like to ask the list some advice on. We have been running Spambayes in Outlook for quite some time now. Things have been working very well until recently. Below is a list of some of the problems I have started seeing. Almost all of my users are using Spambayes Outlook Addin Binary 0.81 in Outlook 2002 running on Dell Inspirons with Windows XP Professional operating systems. Many of our users have started complaining that legitimate emails are being delivered to the Junk Suspect folder. When they "Recover from Spam" the email is placed back into the Inbox but the next time an email comes in from that user it goes back into the Junk Suspect folder. It appears Spambayes is not correctly retaining the training on these legitimate emails when the user "Recovers from Spam". Another issue that I think may be related is the creation of additional junk email folders. Several users have started noticing multiple junk email folders in Outlook (i.e. junk email, junk email2, spam, spamtrap). They are not manually creating these additional folders and many users are telling me they just saw the additional folder pop up one day. Any ideas on why Spambayes would be creating additional folders in Outlook? Another issue is related to installing the 1.0.4 version with Outlook. Most all of our users have had their computers upgraded from Windows 2000 Professional to Windows XP Professional operating systems when they received new Dell computers. On these new computers I started trying to upgrade Spambayes from Spambayes Outlook Addin Binary version 0.81 to Spambayes 1.0.4. I have gone to the website and downloaded the Spambayes 1.0.4 install package. When I set up the new computer I am logged in as an administrator. I install the Spambayes 1.0.4 and everything works fine. I then log into Outlook with the administrator account (my personal profile that has administrative rights). Spambayes begins its initial setup for that administrator account and everything functions normally. Everything looks as if it will work fine for the user's profile. However, when I set up the new user account on the computer and I log into Outlook using the user's profile for the first time there is no Spambayes. There is nothing that shows Spambayes was loaded onto the computer. The only way I have been able to resolve this problem is to log back in as administrator and uninstalling Spambayes 1.0.4. I then install the older version of Spambayes (Spambayes Outlook Addin Binary 0.81) that has worked in the past using the Spambayes Outlook Setup 0081.exe file. This allows me to then log in as the user and set up Spambayes which then functions. This is ok but it means that our machines do not have the updated version of Spambayes loaded. Is this an issue with version 1.0.4? Should I be using the 1.0.4 version with Outlook? Do I need to continue using the 0.81 addin with Outlook? Is using this older version possibly causing the training problems with legitimate emails? Could any or all of the above issues be related? If they are not related could someone address the possible causes and solutions for the particular issues? Thanks for the help, Steve From dale at BriannasSaladDressing.com Mon Oct 8 23:03:46 2007 From: dale at BriannasSaladDressing.com (Dale Schroeder) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 16:03:46 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Crashing SOLVED In-Reply-To: <470A39F1.1000105@BriannasSaladDressing.com> References: <000401c80985$8ec73760$0b01a8c0@Condk01> <18186.10834.954447.692515@montanaro.dyndns.org> <470A39F1.1000105@BriannasSaladDressing.com> Message-ID: <470A9B32.2010703@BriannasSaladDressing.com> In my case, it was the new option in the new version of ThunderBayes (1.0.x) causing all the problems. Once "Use internal SpamBayes proxy" was disabled on all Thunderbird clients, SpamBayes on the Debian server no longer crashed. It now works as wonderfully as it did previously. Dale Schroeder wrote: > I wonder if he meant ThunderBayes 1.0.1? > > At some point since the installation of this version of ThunderBayes, I > have been having SpamBayes crash problems on our local network. > Spambayes is Debian version 1.0.4-3. Clients are Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 > with the aforementioned ThunderBayes 1.0.1. I have not been able to > locate where SpamBayes errors are logged in Debian. Not being able to > find them, if they even exist, I started over with a new dbm database. > Shortly after the 1st users started their email this morning, SpamBayes > started crashing. I am now more inclined to believe it is something > with the clients, but don't know where to look for clues. > > The latest ThunderBayes has a default option of "Use internal SpamBayes > proxy". Since I am using a server-based SpamBayes setup, could that be > the source of the problem? > > Dale From millerdev at gmail.com Tue Oct 9 03:31:40 2007 From: millerdev at gmail.com (Daniel Miller) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 21:31:40 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes load error - Bad Pickle Data?? Message-ID: <470AD9FC.4060908@gmail.com> Hi Dave (and everyone else), First, let me introduce myself. I'm the developer of ThunderBayes. Thanks a lot for using ThunderBayes. It's very encouraging to write software that is used and valued by others. > A recent system crash managed to corrupt my thunderbird installation. Now > nearly all recovered - just one problem left with Thunderbayes. > > Loading Thunderbird gives the following error: > > Errors occurred > See the logfile '...' for details > > Acknowledging this allows me to go and load thunderbird OK, and Spambayes > then works OK, but it still annoying. A copy of the file is attached. It looks like your SpamBayes database got corrupted. You'll probably need to start training from scratch (or start with a backup from before the crash if you have one...you do backup don't you?) The easiest way to do this is to delete (or move to somewhere safe) everything EXCEPT the bayescustomize.ini file in the spambayes_data directory in your profile. Here's the background info: the big new feature in ThunderBayes is the fact that it ships with SpamBayes, so users don't need to bother with installing and configuring that before ThunderBayes will work. Unfortunately, this means that I had to set the default database type used by ThunderBayes to the Pickle protocol since BerkleyDB doesn't work on Mac OS X. If this was a bad decision, maybe someone here could give a better alternative? Anyway, I'm not even sure if that matters so much in your case (Dave) since a the crash you experienced may have corrupted BerkleyDB as well? Hope that helps. ~ Daniel From mhammond at skippinet.com.au Tue Oct 9 04:06:51 2007 From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 12:06:51 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Options files? And would they allow seperate DBs for multiple profiles? In-Reply-To: <000901c80797$978a79b0$c69f6d10$@com> References: <000901c80797$978a79b0$c69f6d10$@com> Message-ID: <048401c80a19$12629590$3727c0b0$@com.au> The Outlook addin always looks for a config file named "{profile_name}_bayes_customize.ini" in your spambayes ApplicationData directory. Inside this file you can specify a "data directory" option in a [General] section, which is where spambayes will save and load its databases from. See also http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#how-can-i-change-the-directory-tha t-spambayes-st - but that doesn't make it clear that you can have different values for each profile by using that profile's INI file. Sadly, that is only theory at this stage - https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=498104&aid=939543&group_id =61702 implies it doesn't work :( If it indeed doesn't work, I'd consider it a bug (which sadly doesn't really help you) Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes- > bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Aether002 > Sent: Saturday, 6 October 2007 7:35 AM > To: spambayes at python.org > Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Options files? And would they allow > seperate DBs for multiple profiles? > > > I'm still trying to figure out if there's any way 1.1a4 on > Outlook > 2007 (WinXP Pro) can be configured to use a seperate database for each > Outlook Profile. It occurs to me that this might be one of the > advanced > options that can be set in the INI files, however, while the > documentation > mentions the "outlook-options.ini" file as the place to go to see what > all > the Outlook specific options are, I can't for the life of me find that > file. > > Am I blind, or is it not where it's supposed to be? Also, if > anyone > knows how to accomplish my original goal (of the seperate DBs for each > Outlook Profile), I still need help there! > > > Thanks! > > > _______________________________________________ > SpamBayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From lau.francois at worldonline.fr Mon Oct 8 22:42:46 2007 From: lau.francois at worldonline.fr (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Laurent_Fran=E7ois?=) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 07:42:46 +1100 Subject: [Spambayes] sb_server.py as a daemon Message-ID: <470A9646.1080800@worldonline.fr> Hello, I am trying to us sb_server.py as a daemon. I am using the script from Fernando Nino: ######################## #!/bin/bash # # spambayes: Starts the spam filter as a pop3 proxy # # Version: @(#) /etc/init.d/spambayes 1.0 # # chkconfig: - 95 21 # description: This shell script takes care of starting and stopping \ # spambayes pop3 proxy # processname: sb_server.py # SBPROXY=/usr/bin/sb_server.py SBLOG=/var/log/spam.log SBDIR=/var/mail/vhosts/.spambayes/hammiedb [ -x $SBPROXY ] || exit 0 # Source function library. # Change by myself ##. /etc/init.d/functions . /lib/lsb/init-functions RETVAL=0 start () { date >> $SBLOG echo -n "Starting SpamBayes POP3 proxy: " if [ ! -d $SBDIR ] ; then echo "Repertoire $SBDIR non present" >> $SBLOG RETVAL=1 else cd $SBDIR ($SBPROXY 2>&1 >> $SBLOG) & RETVAL=$? fi action "" [ $RETVAL = 0 ] return $RETVAL } stop () { # stop daemon date >> $SBLOG echo -n "Stopping SpamBayes POP3 proxy: " killproc $SBPROXY 1 RETVAL=$? echo [ $RETVAL = 0 ] return $RETVAL } restart () { stop start RETVAL=$? return $RETVAL } # See how we were called. case "$1" in start) start ;; stop) stop ;; status) status $SBPROXY RETVAL=$? ;; restart) restart ;; *) echo "Usage: $0 {start|stop|restart|status}" RETVAL=1 esac ############################ and when I run it I got this error message: ./spambayes start Starting SpamBayes POP3 proxy: ./spambayes: line 36: action: command not found Any idea ? Bye From skip at pobox.com Tue Oct 9 15:05:59 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 08:05:59 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes load error - Bad Pickle Data?? In-Reply-To: <470AD9FC.4060908@gmail.com> References: <470AD9FC.4060908@gmail.com> Message-ID: <18187.31927.299374.217359@montanaro.dyndns.org> Daniel> Here's the background info: the big new feature in ThunderBayes Daniel> is the fact that it ships with SpamBayes, so users don't need to Daniel> bother with installing and configuring that before ThunderBayes Daniel> will work. Unfortunately, this means that I had to set the Daniel> default database type used by ThunderBayes to the Pickle Daniel> protocol since BerkleyDB doesn't work on Mac OS X. This was probably the correct choice, given the circumstances. As long as you only have one process reading/writing the file you should be fine. What version of SpamBayes do you include with ThunderBayes? I don't use ThunderBayes, so I apologize if this is already the case, but would it be possible to include the SpamBayes version when reporting the ThunderBayes version? The most ideal from my p.o.v. would be to list both and some indication of whether SpamBayes was internal or external to ThunderBayes, e.g., "1.0.1/1.1a4-ext" or "1.0.1/1.0.4-int". Skip From skip at pobox.com Tue Oct 9 15:11:34 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 08:11:34 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] sb_server.py as a daemon In-Reply-To: <470A9646.1080800@worldonline.fr> References: <470A9646.1080800@worldonline.fr> Message-ID: <18187.32262.600188.467055@montanaro.dyndns.org> Laurent> I am trying to us sb_server.py as a daemon. ... Laurent> and when I run it I got this error message: Laurent> ./spambayes start Laurent> Starting SpamBayes POP3 proxy: ./spambayes: line 36: action: Laurent> command not found There is apparently something different about your environment and that in which Fernando Nino developed that start script. Apparently the action command is defined in /etc/init.d/functions in Fernando's environment but not by /lib/lsb/init-functions in your environment. I suspect the action command does nothing more than emit a message to stderr. You can probably comment it out. You might look in your system's /etc/init.d scripts to see how they emit the OK/FAILED blurb when starting services. Skip From dcktso at googlemail.com Tue Oct 9 20:06:53 2007 From: dcktso at googlemail.com (Dave Kemp) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 19:06:53 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes load error - Bad Pickle Data?? In-Reply-To: <18186.34751.221686.95767@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <000401c80985$8ec73760$0b01a8c0@Condk01> <18186.10834.954447.692515@montanaro.dyndns.org> <001501c809e1$4f997dd0$b10110ac@Condk01> <18186.34751.221686.95767@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <000d01c80aa0$4a9457a0$b10110ac@Condk01> Skip, Again, thanks for the help. Upgraded the service to 1.0.4a, but continue to have a problem. The log file is attached. Open to further suggestions ....... Thanks Dave -----Original Message----- From: skip at pobox.com [mailto:skip at pobox.com] Sent: 08 October 2007 20:41 To: dave.kemp at tsorg.com Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Spambayes load error - Bad Pickle Data?? Dave> As to SpamBayes, the TBird plugin is 1.0.1, Note that this is ThunderBayes, not part of the SpamBayes project proper. Dave> the SpamBayes Service is 1.0.4. Happy to try 1.0.4a if you can Dave> help me with a download link. Sure. Start here: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=61702 Scroll down to this link: spambayes-1.1a4-070629.exe. Dave> I have renamed and forced a recreate of hammie.db, but am still Dave> getting the same error. The updated logfile is attached. I don't see anything else it could be. Try reposting this information to the spambayes mailing list. I am not a Windows user, so I can't really help you track down the culprit file. Also, looking more closely at your traceback, it seems that ThunderBayes might include its own version of SpamBayes. If so, the above link might not do you much good. Ask the ThunderBayes folks. Skip -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Disabling the internal proxy as you suggest does the trick. Not sure where it got reset, but after a crash and trashed prefs.js, it could have been anything.... But we're up and running again now, so I reckon that's a tick! Thanks to all Dave _____ From: Dale Schroeder [mailto:dale at BriannasSaladDressing.com] Sent: 09 October 2007 20:09 To: dave.kemp at tsorg.com Subject: Re: ham,Re: [Spambayes] Spambayes load error - Bad Pickle Data?? Dave, Have you checked the options settings of the ThunderBayes extension. If "Use internal SpamBayes proxy" is checked, disable it and try again. I can verify that if you already have SpamBayes installed and also let ThunderBayes' internal proxy run, you will get conflicts. Good luck, Dale Dave Kemp wrote: Skip, Again, thanks for the help. Upgraded the service to 1.0.4a, but continue to have a problem. The log file is attached. Open to further suggestions ....... Thanks Dave -----Original Message----- From: skip at pobox.com [mailto:skip at pobox.com] Sent: 08 October 2007 20:41 To: dave.kemp at tsorg.com Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Spambayes load error - Bad Pickle Data?? Dave> As to SpamBayes, the TBird plugin is 1.0.1, Note that this is ThunderBayes, not part of the SpamBayes project proper. Dave> the SpamBayes Service is 1.0.4. Happy to try 1.0.4a if you can Dave> help me with a download link. Sure. Start here: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=61702 Scroll down to this link: spambayes-1.1a4-070629.exe. Dave> I have renamed and forced a recreate of hammie.db, but am still Dave> getting the same error. The updated logfile is attached. I don't see anything else it could be. Try reposting this information to the spambayes mailing list. I am not a Windows user, so I can't really help you track down the culprit file. Also, looking more closely at your traceback, it seems that ThunderBayes might include its own version of SpamBayes. If so, the above link might not do you much good. Ask the ThunderBayes folks. Skip _____ _______________________________________________ SpamBayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html _____ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.6/1059 - Release Date: 10/9/2007 8:44 AM -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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However, the Vista system errors off when I try to open > Outlook. > John prince Version 1.1a4 works very well here, https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=61702 Vista Ultimate 32/ Outlook 2007 Peter From Rick at awsp.org Wed Oct 10 22:34:43 2007 From: Rick at awsp.org (Rick Stacy) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:34:43 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes, XP and Outlook 2007 Message-ID: <4784C7C49722F24CB763A8F8C3D0583282CB3B@awspw2k3sbs.AWSP.lan> Spambayes stopped working after several months on an XP system running Outlook 2007. I have uninstalled, deleted the Spambayes toolbar and then reinstalled. The reinstallation does not restore functionality or the Spambayes toolbar. What next? Thanks Rick Stacy Financial Services/Information Technology Association of Washington School Principals Washington School Principals Education Foundation 360 357-7951 Toll Free 800 562-6100 fax 360 357-7966 rickstacy at awsp.org www.awsp.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20071010/fd9fbf81/attachment.htm From skip at pobox.com Wed Oct 10 23:02:51 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:02:51 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Vista In-Reply-To: <006d01c80b79$bd5bfd90$3813f8b0$@net> References: <006d01c80b79$bd5bfd90$3813f8b0$@net> Message-ID: <18189.15867.123394.303585@montanaro.dyndns.org> John> When will you have a version that will work with Windows Vista & John> Office 2007? John> I have Spambayes installed on a machine with Windows XP & Office John> 2007 that works fine. However, the Vista system errors off when I John> try to open Outlook. Have you read this question in the FAQ? http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#id12 -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ From skip at pobox.com Wed Oct 10 23:07:49 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:07:49 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes, XP and Outlook 2007 In-Reply-To: <4784C7C49722F24CB763A8F8C3D0583282CB3B@awspw2k3sbs.AWSP.lan> References: <4784C7C49722F24CB763A8F8C3D0583282CB3B@awspw2k3sbs.AWSP.lan> Message-ID: <18189.16165.573640.348606@montanaro.dyndns.org> Rick> Spambayes stopped working after several months ... Rick> What next? Any information in the log file? Read the FAQ? Have you tried the troubleshooting guide? http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html http://spambayes.cvs.sourceforge.net/*checkout*/spambayes/spambayes/Outlook2000/docs/troubleshooting.html?content-type=text/html -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ From paulh at gencrest.com Thu Oct 11 00:22:02 2007 From: paulh at gencrest.com (Dr Paul M. Hine) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:22:02 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] VISTA Home Premium and Outlook 2007 Message-ID: <000001c80b8b$fc747770$f55d6650$@com> These are the operating system and program I am using. Outlook will not load SpamBayes 1.1a4 . should I use an earlier version? ______________________ Dr. Paul M. Hine Gencrest, Inc. +1 (240) 678-2876 paulh at gencrest.com drpaulmhine at cfl.rr.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20071010/3a45ded0/attachment.htm From Aether002 at cobaltnight.com Thu Oct 11 01:05:37 2007 From: Aether002 at cobaltnight.com (Aether002) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:05:37 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Options files? And would they allow seperate DBs for multiple profiles? In-Reply-To: <048401c80a19$12629590$3727c0b0$@com.au> References: <000901c80797$978a79b0$c69f6d10$@com> <048401c80a19$12629590$3727c0b0$@com.au> Message-ID: <000001c80b92$19aeb570$4d0c2050$@com> Well, you are correct that the ability to set seperate databases for individual Outlook Profiles is broken. However, I was determined to make this work, and so I dived into the source code - and I came out with answers and a workaround solution. I can now make this work, and I'll go into details here - both for the developers, so that they can have an easier time fixing this issue in the next release - as well as for other end users, who would like to have this functionality now, without waiting. I'll do this in two parts - the first part will go into the nitty gritty of what's going on, why it doesn't work, and why I chose to fix it the way I did. The second part is just the instructions on how to do it, for anyone who's interested. Note that everything below is in regards to SpamBayes 1.1a4, run as Source, specifically for the Outlook Add-In. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- PART I - Backstory ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- As it pertains to configuration files and data directories, here is the current workflow of how things work on a default 1.1a4 installation: -------------------------------------- Current Workflow (SpamBayes 1.1a4): Note 1: All events in the Workflow occur in "\Outlook2000\manager.py" Note 2: Line numbers specified are starting line numbers. Actual code may extend further. 1. (Line: 380) - Set "self.windows_data_directory" to the Default Data Directory. 2. (Line: 384) - Call "self.PrepareConfig()" which reads the primary config files: 2a. (Line: 661) - Grab settings from "default_configuration.ini" in the Application Directory 2b. (Line: 664) - Grab settings from "default_configuration.ini" in the Default Data Directory 3. (Line: 389) - See if the initial config files specify a custom Data Directory. If so, use it as the Working Data Directory. If not, use the Default Data Directory as the Working Data Directory. 4. (Line: 429) - Look for "default_bayes_customize.ini" in the Application Directory as well as the Working Data Directory. If found, grab the settings. 5. (Line: 433) - Look for "{outlook-profile-name}_bayes_customize.ini" in the Working Data Directory. If found, grab the settings. -------------------------------------- If you examine this workflow, you can see what the problem is - SpamBayes looks for a custom Data Directory ONLY within the "default_configuration.ini" file. By the time it looks for the individual "{outlook-profile-name}_bayes_customize.ini" files, the Working Data Directory has already been determined, and it will not be changed by entries in those files. For that matter, it doesn't even look for the individual profile INIs in the Application Directory - it only looks for them in the Working Data Directory, further showing that the directory location has to have been set prior to this step. Rather than get into the sticky mess of loading the general and profile "...customize.ini" files first, it seemed to me that the least intrusive way to address this was to add an additional INI file to the mix - one that would serve no other purpose except to define a custom data directory on a per-profile basis. Once this is done, the new workflow looks like this: -------------------------------------- Modified Workflow: 1. (Line: 380) - Set "self.windows_data_directory" to the Default Data Directory. 2. (Line: 384) - Call "self.PrepareConfig()" which reads the primary config files 2a. (Line: 661) - Grab settings from "default_configuration.ini" in the Application Directory 2b. (Line: 664) - Grab settings from "default_configuration.ini" in the Default Data Directory ----------- 2c. Grab settings from "{outlook-profile-name}_datadir.ini" in the Application Directory 2d. Grab settings from "{outlook-profile-name}_datadir.ini" in the Default Data Directory ----------- 3. (Line: 389) - See if the initial config files specify a custom Data Directory. If so, use it as the Working Data Directory. If not, use the Default Data Directory as the Working Data Directory. 4. (Line: 429) - Look for "default_bayes_customize.ini" in the Application Directory as well as the Working Data Directory. If found, grab the settings. 5. (Line: 433) - Look for "{outlook-profile-name}_bayes_customize.ini" in the Working Data Directory. If found, grab the settings. -------------------------------------- I added the implementation of the new INI files as part of the "PrepareConfig()" function. This necessitated one other small change, which was to rearrange a single line of code (plus comments), so that the Outlook Profile Name would be accessible earlier in SpamBayes' execution - which is necessary to parse the new INI files based on the Outlook Profile that is active. So, that's it for the backstory - below is a standalone section that shows the specifics of how to implement this change, for anyone who's interested. To the best of my knowledge, I have broken nothing by doing this. I'm running SpamBayes 1.1a4 on WinXP Pro SP2, using Outlook 2007, and everything runs fine. When I run the Trace Collector Debugging Tool, I get no errors on startup, and SpamBayes functions fully. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- PART II - Instructions ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- SpamBayes 1.1a4 - Modify to Support Multiple Profile DBs SECTION 1 - Main Steps: 1. Modify "\Outlook2000\manager.py" in the App (i.e. Source Code) Directory, as indicated in SECTION 2, below. (Remember to backup the original) 2. Create Individual Data Directories (Ideal: Under the Default Data Dir; this way all the user data is in one place). 3. Copy DB and "(profile name).ini" files into the individual data directories if they exist. If there are existing DB files, copy them into whichever Individual Data Directories you would like to start with that same training data. 4. Create "{outlook-profile-name}_datadir.ini" files in the Application Directory OR Default Data Directory (Ideal - In the Default Data Dir; this way, it survives upgrades). See SECTION 3 below for details. That's it! Notes: 1. I have not tested any of this with Profiles that have spaces in their names. 2. For obvious reasons, this is designed to work when running SpamBayes from source, as opposed to the EXE installer. 3. The Default Data Directory for a Windows OS is typically "C:\Documents and Settings\\Application Data\SpamBayes" SECTION 2 - Modifications to "\Outlook2000\manager.py": Note 1: These instructions are for 1.1a4 ONLY. If you're running a different version, the code may be different, and thus, would have to be adapted accordingly. Note 2: Whitespace above and below lines is fine - I prefer to add them for readability. HOWEVER, you must be careful not to change the amount each line is Indented. Each line of code represented below (except the comment lines - for them, it doesn't matter) must be indented by exactly EIGHT spaces. Otherwise it causes problems. 1. Find this: ----------------------- # Get the message store before loading config, as we use the profile # name. self.message_store = msgstore.MAPIMsgStore(outlook) ----------------------- 2. ...and move it ABOVE this: ----------------------- # where windows would like our data stored (and where # we do, unless overwritten via a config file) self.windows_data_directory = self.LocateDataDirectory() ----------------------- 3. Find this: ----------------------- filename = os.path.join(self.application_directory, "default_configuration.ini") self._MergeConfigFile(filename) filename = os.path.join(self.windows_data_directory, "default_configuration.ini") self._MergeConfigFile(filename) ----------------------- 4. ...and BELOW that, add this: ----------------------- filename = os.path.join(self.application_directory, self.GetProfileName() + "_datadir.ini") self._MergeConfigFile(filename) filename = os.path.join(self.windows_data_directory, self.GetProfileName() + "_datadir.ini") self._MergeConfigFile(filename) ----------------------- ** That's it for the "manager.py" edits. ** SECTION 3 - Profile Data Directory INI Files 1. Create a text file named with the following syntax: "{outlook-profile-name}_datadir.ini" For example, if your Outlook Profile is called "Stephen", then the file will be named "stephen_datadir.ini" 2. The contents of this text file should be the following (follow the syntax): -------------------- [General] data_directory: -------------------- For example, if you are creating a Profile Data Directory for your Outlook Profile named "Stephen", you log into Windows with the username "Porche", and you chose to put it under the Default Data Directory (recommended) with the directory name the same as the profile name (not necessary, but a good idea), the contents would be the following: -------------------- [General] data_directory: c:\documents and settings\porche\application data\spambayes\stephen -------------------- Notes: 1. No quotes of any kind are needed to surround the path. 2. Spaces within the path are fine. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- END OF PART II ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well, that's it. Any comments on my workaround or documentation are welcome. > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Hammond [mailto:mhammond at skippinet.com.au] > Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 10:07 PM > To: 'Aether002'; spambayes at python.org > Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Outlook Options files? And would they allow seperate DBs for > multiple profiles? > > The Outlook addin always looks for a config file named > "{profile_name}_bayes_customize.ini" in your spambayes ApplicationData > directory. Inside this file you can specify a "data directory" option in a > [General] section, which is where spambayes will save and load its databases > from. > > See also > http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#how-can-i-change-the-directory-tha > t-spambayes-st - but that doesn't make it clear that you can have different > values for each profile by using that profile's INI file. > > Sadly, that is only theory at this stage - > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=498104&aid=939543&group_id > =61702 implies it doesn't work :( If it indeed doesn't work, I'd consider > it a bug (which sadly doesn't really help you) > > Mark > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes- > > bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Aether002 > > Sent: Saturday, 6 October 2007 7:35 AM > > To: spambayes at python.org > > Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Options files? And would they allow > > seperate DBs for multiple profiles? > > > > > > I'm still trying to figure out if there's any way 1.1a4 on > > Outlook > > 2007 (WinXP Pro) can be configured to use a seperate database for each > > Outlook Profile. It occurs to me that this might be one of the > > advanced > > options that can be set in the INI files, however, while the > > documentation > > mentions the "outlook-options.ini" file as the place to go to see what > > all > > the Outlook specific options are, I can't for the life of me find that > > file. > > > > Am I blind, or is it not where it's supposed to be? Also, if > > anyone > > knows how to accomplish my original goal (of the seperate DBs for each > > Outlook Profile), I still need help there! > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SpamBayes at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > > Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From csjrswofford at bellsouth.net Thu Oct 11 01:30:17 2007 From: csjrswofford at bellsouth.net (Carl) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:30:17 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Options files? And would they allowseperate DBs for multiple profiles? In-Reply-To: <000001c80b92$19aeb570$4d0c2050$@com> Message-ID: <007601c80b95$8543b9e0$6101a8c0@carlsw> Great work. Thank you. Carl -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Aether002 Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 7:06 PM To: 'Mark Hammond'; 'Aether002'; spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Outlook Options files? And would they allowseperate DBs for multiple profiles? Well, you are correct that the ability to set seperate databases for individual Outlook Profiles is broken. However, I was determined to make this work, and so I dived into the source code - and I came out with answers and a workaround solution. I can now make this work, and I'll go into details here - both for the developers, so that they can have an easier time fixing this issue in the next release - as well as for other end users, who would like to have this functionality now, without waiting. I'll do this in two parts - the first part will go into the nitty gritty of what's going on, why it doesn't work, and why I chose to fix it the way I did. The second part is just the instructions on how to do it, for anyone who's interested. Note that everything below is in regards to SpamBayes 1.1a4, run as Source, specifically for the Outlook Add-In. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- PART I - Backstory ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- As it pertains to configuration files and data directories, here is the current workflow of how things work on a default 1.1a4 installation: -------------------------------------- Current Workflow (SpamBayes 1.1a4): Note 1: All events in the Workflow occur in "\Outlook2000\manager.py" Note 2: Line numbers specified are starting line numbers. Actual code may extend further. 1. (Line: 380) - Set "self.windows_data_directory" to the Default Data Directory. 2. (Line: 384) - Call "self.PrepareConfig()" which reads the primary config files: 2a. (Line: 661) - Grab settings from "default_configuration.ini" in the Application Directory 2b. (Line: 664) - Grab settings from "default_configuration.ini" in the Default Data Directory 3. (Line: 389) - See if the initial config files specify a custom Data Directory. If so, use it as the Working Data Directory. If not, use the Default Data Directory as the Working Data Directory. 4. (Line: 429) - Look for "default_bayes_customize.ini" in the Application Directory as well as the Working Data Directory. If found, grab the settings. 5. (Line: 433) - Look for "{outlook-profile-name}_bayes_customize.ini" in the Working Data Directory. If found, grab the settings. -------------------------------------- If you examine this workflow, you can see what the problem is - SpamBayes looks for a custom Data Directory ONLY within the "default_configuration.ini" file. By the time it looks for the individual "{outlook-profile-name}_bayes_customize.ini" files, the Working Data Directory has already been determined, and it will not be changed by entries in those files. For that matter, it doesn't even look for the individual profile INIs in the Application Directory - it only looks for them in the Working Data Directory, further showing that the directory location has to have been set prior to this step. Rather than get into the sticky mess of loading the general and profile "...customize.ini" files first, it seemed to me that the least intrusive way to address this was to add an additional INI file to the mix - one that would serve no other purpose except to define a custom data directory on a per-profile basis. Once this is done, the new workflow looks like this: -------------------------------------- Modified Workflow: 1. (Line: 380) - Set "self.windows_data_directory" to the Default Data Directory. 2. (Line: 384) - Call "self.PrepareConfig()" which reads the primary config files 2a. (Line: 661) - Grab settings from "default_configuration.ini" in the Application Directory 2b. (Line: 664) - Grab settings from "default_configuration.ini" in the Default Data Directory ----------- 2c. Grab settings from "{outlook-profile-name}_datadir.ini" in the Application Directory 2d. Grab settings from "{outlook-profile-name}_datadir.ini" in the Default Data Directory ----------- 3. (Line: 389) - See if the initial config files specify a custom Data Directory. If so, use it as the Working Data Directory. If not, use the Default Data Directory as the Working Data Directory. 4. (Line: 429) - Look for "default_bayes_customize.ini" in the Application Directory as well as the Working Data Directory. If found, grab the settings. 5. (Line: 433) - Look for "{outlook-profile-name}_bayes_customize.ini" in the Working Data Directory. If found, grab the settings. -------------------------------------- I added the implementation of the new INI files as part of the "PrepareConfig()" function. This necessitated one other small change, which was to rearrange a single line of code (plus comments), so that the Outlook Profile Name would be accessible earlier in SpamBayes' execution - which is necessary to parse the new INI files based on the Outlook Profile that is active. So, that's it for the backstory - below is a standalone section that shows the specifics of how to implement this change, for anyone who's interested. To the best of my knowledge, I have broken nothing by doing this. I'm running SpamBayes 1.1a4 on WinXP Pro SP2, using Outlook 2007, and everything runs fine. When I run the Trace Collector Debugging Tool, I get no errors on startup, and SpamBayes functions fully. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- PART II - Instructions ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- SpamBayes 1.1a4 - Modify to Support Multiple Profile DBs SECTION 1 - Main Steps: 1. Modify "\Outlook2000\manager.py" in the App (i.e. Source Code) Directory, as indicated in SECTION 2, below. (Remember to backup the original) 2. Create Individual Data Directories (Ideal: Under the Default Data Dir; this way all the user data is in one place). 3. Copy DB and "(profile name).ini" files into the individual data directories if they exist. If there are existing DB files, copy them into whichever Individual Data Directories you would like to start with that same training data. 4. Create "{outlook-profile-name}_datadir.ini" files in the Application Directory OR Default Data Directory (Ideal - In the Default Data Dir; this way, it survives upgrades). See SECTION 3 below for details. That's it! Notes: 1. I have not tested any of this with Profiles that have spaces in their names. 2. For obvious reasons, this is designed to work when running SpamBayes from source, as opposed to the EXE installer. 3. The Default Data Directory for a Windows OS is typically "C:\Documents and Settings\\Application Data\SpamBayes" SECTION 2 - Modifications to "\Outlook2000\manager.py": Note 1: These instructions are for 1.1a4 ONLY. If you're running a different version, the code may be different, and thus, would have to be adapted accordingly. Note 2: Whitespace above and below lines is fine - I prefer to add them for readability. HOWEVER, you must be careful not to change the amount each line is Indented. Each line of code represented below (except the comment lines - for them, it doesn't matter) must be indented by exactly EIGHT spaces. Otherwise it causes problems. 1. Find this: ----------------------- # Get the message store before loading config, as we use the profile # name. self.message_store = msgstore.MAPIMsgStore(outlook) ----------------------- 2. ...and move it ABOVE this: ----------------------- # where windows would like our data stored (and where # we do, unless overwritten via a config file) self.windows_data_directory = self.LocateDataDirectory() ----------------------- 3. Find this: ----------------------- filename = os.path.join(self.application_directory, "default_configuration.ini") self._MergeConfigFile(filename) filename = os.path.join(self.windows_data_directory, "default_configuration.ini") self._MergeConfigFile(filename) ----------------------- 4. ...and BELOW that, add this: ----------------------- filename = os.path.join(self.application_directory, self.GetProfileName() + "_datadir.ini") self._MergeConfigFile(filename) filename = os.path.join(self.windows_data_directory, self.GetProfileName() + "_datadir.ini") self._MergeConfigFile(filename) ----------------------- ** That's it for the "manager.py" edits. ** SECTION 3 - Profile Data Directory INI Files 1. Create a text file named with the following syntax: "{outlook-profile-name}_datadir.ini" For example, if your Outlook Profile is called "Stephen", then the file will be named "stephen_datadir.ini" 2. The contents of this text file should be the following (follow the syntax): -------------------- [General] data_directory: -------------------- For example, if you are creating a Profile Data Directory for your Outlook Profile named "Stephen", you log into Windows with the username "Porche", and you chose to put it under the Default Data Directory (recommended) with the directory name the same as the profile name (not necessary, but a good idea), the contents would be the following: -------------------- [General] data_directory: c:\documents and settings\porche\application data\spambayes\stephen -------------------- Notes: 1. No quotes of any kind are needed to surround the path. 2. Spaces within the path are fine. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- END OF PART II ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- Well, that's it. Any comments on my workaround or documentation are welcome. > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Hammond [mailto:mhammond at skippinet.com.au] > Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 10:07 PM > To: 'Aether002'; spambayes at python.org > Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Outlook Options files? And would they allow seperate DBs for > multiple profiles? > > The Outlook addin always looks for a config file named > "{profile_name}_bayes_customize.ini" in your spambayes ApplicationData > directory. Inside this file you can specify a "data directory" option in a > [General] section, which is where spambayes will save and load its databases > from. > > See also > http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#how-can-i-change-the-directory -tha > t-spambayes-st - but that doesn't make it clear that you can have different > values for each profile by using that profile's INI file. > > Sadly, that is only theory at this stage - > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=498104&aid=939543&grou p_id > =61702 implies it doesn't work :( If it indeed doesn't work, I'd consider > it a bug (which sadly doesn't really help you) > > Mark > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes- > > bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Aether002 > > Sent: Saturday, 6 October 2007 7:35 AM > > To: spambayes at python.org > > Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Options files? And would they allow > > seperate DBs for multiple profiles? > > > > > > I'm still trying to figure out if there's any way 1.1a4 on > > Outlook > > 2007 (WinXP Pro) can be configured to use a seperate database for each > > Outlook Profile. It occurs to me that this might be one of the > > advanced > > options that can be set in the INI files, however, while the > > documentation > > mentions the "outlook-options.ini" file as the place to go to see what > > all > > the Outlook specific options are, I can't for the life of me find that > > file. > > > > Am I blind, or is it not where it's supposed to be? Also, if > > anyone > > knows how to accomplish my original goal (of the seperate DBs for each > > Outlook Profile), I still need help there! > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SpamBayes at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > > Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html _______________________________________________ SpamBayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From Aether002 at cobaltnight.com Thu Oct 11 01:28:15 2007 From: Aether002 at cobaltnight.com (Aether002) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:28:15 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Options files? And would they allow seperate DBs for multiple profiles? In-Reply-To: <000001c80b92$19aeb570$4d0c2050$@com> References: <000901c80797$978a79b0$c69f6d10$@com> <048401c80a19$12629590$3727c0b0$@com.au> <000001c80b92$19aeb570$4d0c2050$@com> Message-ID: <000101c80b95$3ba375a0$b2ea60e0$@com> Darned email line breaks. In the instructions, on step 4: ---------------------------------------------------- 4. ...and BELOW that, add this: ----------------------- filename = os.path.join(self.application_directory, self.GetProfileName() + "_datadir.ini") self._MergeConfigFile(filename) filename = os.path.join(self.windows_data_directory, self.GetProfileName() + "_datadir.ini") self._MergeConfigFile(filename) ----------------------- ---------------------------------------------------- When you copy this text, you'll grab line breaks where there aren't supposed to be any. There are four text lines total, and they break like this: filename = (etc...) self._MergeConfigFile(filename) filename = (etc...) self._MergeConfigFile(filename) In addition, you'll have to adjust accordingly when you search for the reference lines of code (since the original email will show breaks where there aren't any). Sorry for the confusion! From skip at pobox.com Thu Oct 11 01:29:49 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:29:49 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Vista In-Reply-To: <009401c80b8a$05510f90$0ff32eb0$@net> References: <006d01c80b79$bd5bfd90$3813f8b0$@net> <18189.15867.123394.303585@montanaro.dyndns.org> <009401c80b8a$05510f90$0ff32eb0$@net> Message-ID: <18189.24685.877143.98801@montanaro.dyndns.org> John> I have Spambayes installed on a machine with Windows XP & Office John> 2007 that works fine. However, the Vista system errors off when I John> try to open Outlook. Skip> Have you read this question in the FAQ? Skip> http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#id12 John> OK, I read it but either don't understand it or whatever as I John> can't get it to work. Perhaps one of the Windows users on the list can help. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ From skip at pobox.com Thu Oct 11 01:31:24 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:31:24 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes, XP and Outlook 2007 In-Reply-To: <4784C7C49722F24CB763A8F8C3D0583282CB3C@awspw2k3sbs.AWSP.lan> References: <4784C7C49722F24CB763A8F8C3D0583282CB3B@awspw2k3sbs.AWSP.lan> <18189.16165.573640.348606@montanaro.dyndns.org> <4784C7C49722F24CB763A8F8C3D0583282CB3C@awspw2k3sbs.AWSP.lan> Message-ID: <18189.24780.748856.777718@montanaro.dyndns.org> Rick> Spambayes stopped working after several months ... Rick> What next? Skip> Any information in the log file? Read the FAQ? Have you tried the Skip> troubleshooting guide? Skip> http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html Skip> http://spambayes.cvs.sourceforge.net/*checkout*/spambayes/spambayes/Outlook2000/docs/troubleshooting.html?content-type=text/html Rick> I am unable to locate a log file. I have reviewed the files in Rick> c:\program files\spambayes. Are the logs elsewhere? I'm not a Windows user, so I'm not sure where the log files are. Did the troubleshooting guide not help you locate them? -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ From skupelian at criterium-kupelian.com Thu Oct 11 18:43:08 2007 From: skupelian at criterium-kupelian.com (skupelian) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 10:43:08 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Help needed immediately Message-ID: I hope this is sent to the right area/people -- I just downloaded your software. I'm trying to "train" my machine by letting it put e-mail in "Spam" or "Unsure" folders and then going to these folders and telling the program whether each file in the folder is "Junk" or "Good". However, My e-mail is disappearing -- how do I find where the the "Spam" and "Unsure" folders are? There doesn't seem to be anything in your FAQ's that addresses this situation, and the "Tools/Advanced Find" doesn't work the way you say in your FAQ's. There's no phone number or e-mail in your "Contact Us/Contact Details" and I need to find/access my e-mail. Please call 970-248-9200 ASAP!!!! It is now 10:45 AM in western Colorado where I am. You could e-mail me but your e-mail would go to some unknown location where I don't know how to find it, so please don't do that! Thank you. Sue K From jsp at PKC.com Thu Oct 11 19:35:55 2007 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 13:35:55 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Help needed immediately In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F906020E87@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Presumably, if you read this, you've sorted out the problem, uninstalled SpamBayes, or found and searched the SpamBayes mailing list archive. (I'm writing this mostly for the latter.) Perhaps you worked out how to use the Advanced Find. The FAQ doesn't say much about how it works, but what it does say seems to be accurate for Outlook 2003 (which is what I have). Alternatively, you might have created new folders for spam and possible spam and used the SpamBayes Manager to specify that messages should be moved to those folders. You could also have configured SpamBayes not to move messages at all. Either way, you could continue to receive messages while looking for "disappeared" messages. (Developers: maybe these options should be added to the FAQ. It has to be upsetting to realize that if anyone answers a plea for help, you won't know it.) Or maybe someone took it upon themselves to give you a call. If so, this was either an act of generosity, paid for out of their own pocket, or an offer of paid advice. There is no business entity behind SpamBayes; if anyone gets paid to work on it or support it, I haven't heard about it. The developers are a loose network of people scattered around the globe who wrote SpamBayes because it seemed interesting to them and/or they found it useful, and support is largely contributed by people like myself who are grateful for SpamBayes' existence. While it may not seem like it to you at the moment, it's a wonderful program. I hope you get SpamBayes working for you if you haven't already! -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces+jsp=pkc.com at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces+jsp=pkc.com at python.org] On Behalf Of skupelian Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 12:43 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Help needed immediately I hope this is sent to the right area/people -- I just downloaded your software. I'm trying to "train" my machine by letting it put e-mail in "Spam" or "Unsure" folders and then going to these folders and telling the program whether each file in the folder is "Junk" or "Good". However, My e-mail is disappearing -- how do I find where the the "Spam" and "Unsure" folders are? There doesn't seem to be anything in your FAQ's that addresses this situation, and the "Tools/Advanced Find" doesn't work the way you say in your FAQ's. There's no phone number or e-mail in your "Contact Us/Contact Details" and I need to find/access my e-mail. Please call 970-248-9200 ASAP!!!! It is now 10:45 AM in western Colorado where I am. You could e-mail me but your e-mail would go to some unknown location where I don't know how to find it, so please don't do that! Thank you. Sue K _______________________________________________ SpamBayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From anev at verizon.net Thu Oct 11 17:47:32 2007 From: anev at verizon.net (Allen Neville) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:47:32 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] delete as spam Message-ID: the delete as spam button has stopped working!! it will not funtion. all others are ok?? help Thanks Allen From carolyn at noracom.com Thu Oct 18 00:24:40 2007 From: carolyn at noracom.com (Carolyn) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 17:24:40 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Question Message-ID: <033901c8110c$83261550$0901a8c0@noracom3ma1bzn> I am looking to implement a managed services package for my clients. My problem is managing SpamBayes remotely. What I mean is that my clients tend to delete the "Junk email" folder or the "Suspect" folder gets drug in to the wrong place and SpamBayes quits working. Is there a process that I can monitor to see if it is running? Is there a way I can "lock" the folders so they cannot be deleted or move? These clients are not on Exchange server, they are stand alone desktops. Carolyn Noracom www.noracom.com 281-550-8687 NOTICE: This electronic mail transmission may contain confidential information and is proprietary to Noracom and is intended only for the person(s) named. Any use, copying or disclosure by any other person is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender via e-mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20071017/102b0ac8/attachment.htm From mhammond at skippinet.com.au Thu Oct 18 03:38:14 2007 From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 11:38:14 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] Question In-Reply-To: <033901c8110c$83261550$0901a8c0@noracom3ma1bzn> References: <033901c8110c$83261550$0901a8c0@noracom3ma1bzn> Message-ID: <015d01c81127$928c15b0$b7a44110$@com.au> This is a pain, and a constant source of questions on this mailing list. Spambayes offers no facilities to help avoid this, but we would welcome any contributions towards that goal. The spambayes-dev mailing list is probably the appropriate place to discuss how such a feature should be implemented if you were interested in contributing. Regards, Mark From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: Thursday, 18 October 2007 8:25 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Question I am looking to implement a managed services package for my clients. My problem is managing SpamBayes remotely. What I mean is that my clients tend to delete the "Junk email" folder or the "Suspect" folder gets drug in to the wrong place and SpamBayes quits working. Is there a process that I can monitor to see if it is running? Is there a way I can "lock" the folders so they cannot be deleted or move? These clients are not on Exchange server, they are stand alone desktops. Carolyn Noracom www.noracom.com 281-550-8687 NOTICE: This electronic mail transmission may contain confidential information and is proprietary to Noracom and is intended only for the person(s) named. Any use, copying or disclosure by any other person is strictly prohibited. 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20071018/0e0716b4/attachment.htm From rojo.editor at verizon.net Thu Oct 18 20:15:35 2007 From: rojo.editor at verizon.net (Joel Rosenthal) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 14:15:35 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Not Spam button doesn't appear Message-ID: <004501c811b2$e13a89e0$a3af9da0$@editor@verizon.net> I just had to reinstall my computer because of a hard drive problem. I downloaded and installed the latest Spam Bayes version to run on Outlook 2007. Everything appears to work normally except that when I have a message in Junk Mail or Junk Suspects selected, there is no Not Spam button. Before my hard drive problem, there always was a Not Spam button when I had a message in Junk Mail or Junk Suspects selected. How do I get the button to appear? Joel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20071018/877f153e/attachment.htm From rojo.editor at verizon.net Thu Oct 18 20:18:08 2007 From: rojo.editor at verizon.net (Joel Rosenthal) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 14:18:08 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] FW: Not Spam button doesn't appear Message-ID: <004a01c811b3$3cdc7c40$b69574c0$@editor@verizon.net> I am running Windows XP Pro SP2, and I found nothing in your documentation about the Not Spam button. From: Joel Rosenthal [mailto:rojo.editor at verizon.net] Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 2:16 PM To: 'spambayes at python.org' Subject: Not Spam button doesn't appear I just had to reinstall my computer because of a hard drive problem. I downloaded and installed the latest Spam Bayes version to run on Outlook 2007. Everything appears to work normally except that when I have a message in Junk Mail or Junk Suspects selected, there is no Not Spam button. Before my hard drive problem, there always was a Not Spam button when I had a message in Junk Mail or Junk Suspects selected. How do I get the button to appear? Joel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20071018/2030c537/attachment.htm From rojo.editor at verizon.net Thu Oct 18 21:31:11 2007 From: rojo.editor at verizon.net (Joel Rosenthal) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 15:31:11 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Not Spam button doesn't appear... Message-ID: <005301c811bd$7176a070$5463e150$@editor@verizon.net> ...in Outlook 2007 on Windows XP Pro SP2. I'm using the most recent Spam Bayes program I downloaded and installed yesterday. I had to reinstall my system from scratch after a hard drive problem, but before that happened, I was running Spam Bayes on Outlook 2007 with the same OS. In the past, whenever I was in the Junk Mail or Junk Suspects folder and had a message selected, there was a Not Spam button. There isn't one now. How do I get it back? Joel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20071018/f1c85e6e/attachment.htm From RAlbrecht at aspe.org Fri Oct 19 17:00:07 2007 From: RAlbrecht at aspe.org (Richard S. Albrecht) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 10:00:07 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Weird Problem Message-ID: <7BD4F38052A7914DABE1B192D42946FF02577E@aspeexch.aspe.org> Hi, Thanks for the great software, We are a non-profit and and your Spambayes has been a god send. Something weird though, one of you user's installation stopped working, Outlook 2003 with Exchange 2003 on a desk top. Suddenly it just stopped, clicking on the Spambayes button does nothing. Went to com add ins and saw that it was unchecked, I checked it and restarted Outlook. Same thing. So I uninstalled spambayes and reinstalled, all with Outlook closed. Ad it did the same thing. Any ideas how to fix this. Thanks -=Richard S Albrecht=- American Society of Plumbing Engineers 8614 W. Catalpa Ave., Suite 1007 Chicago, Illinois 60656 Phone: 773-693-ASPE (2773) Ext:224 Fax: 773-695-9007 Email: RAlbrecht at aspe.org Web: www.aspe.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20071019/751c88e3/attachment.htm From rojo.editor at verizon.net Sat Oct 20 18:24:54 2007 From: rojo.editor at verizon.net (Joel Rosenthal) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 12:24:54 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes not working as it used to Message-ID: <000e01c81335$c00e0d80$402a2880$@editor@verizon.net> I recently had to get a new hard drive and reinstall my entire system. Before that, I had Outlook 2007 with SpamBayes (Windows XP Pro), and I was totally satisfied with the way SpamBayes worked. I have the same configuration now. There was a Spam (frown) button and a Not Spam (smile) button. When I clicked the Spam button, the selected message went to the Junk Mail folder, even if the message was in the Deleted Items folder at the time. When I clicked the Not Spam button, which was available if I was in the Junk Suspects or Junk mail folder, the message went back to the inbox. Now, there is no Not Spam button, and when I click the Spam button, the message is permanently deleted. I found nothing about this on the troubleshooting page or the FAQs. Is it possible that I used an older version of SpamBayes before? I looked for older versions on the Web site, but I couldn't find one-all the version numbers appear to be later than 1.0.4. Does anybody know how I can restore the functionality I had before? Joel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20071020/8b06354d/attachment.htm From info at lazworld.com Mon Oct 22 19:03:20 2007 From: info at lazworld.com (David Lazar) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 13:03:20 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 on Vista Business Message-ID: <04a501c814cd$756120d0$60236270$@com> How do you get spam bayes to work with Outlook 2007 on Vista? The install does not work - please help!!!! thanks -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20071022/a0c88ecf/attachment.htm From rojo.editor at verizon.net Tue Oct 23 05:57:08 2007 From: rojo.editor at verizon.net (Joel Rosenthal) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 23:57:08 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes not working as it used to Message-ID: <000201c81528$c931fa30$5b95ee90$@editor@verizon.net> OK, I solved the problem with the Not Spam button not appearing and clicking Spam permanently deleting the message. It appears that when I installed Outlook 2007, Outlook created a Spam folder. Even though I had SpamBayes configured with the default settings to use the Junk E-mail and Junk Suspects folder, once I deleted the Spam folder, SpamBayes began working normally. I'd like to thank everyone for all your help. Joel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20071022/1a4d0a78/attachment.htm From ckarlo at mercurynewmedia.com Wed Oct 24 15:08:30 2007 From: ckarlo at mercurynewmedia.com (Christopher Karlo) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 09:08:30 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] Tool Bar Operational Inconsistency Message-ID: <001801c8163e$f96aab40$ec4001c0$@com> SpamBayes Guru - I am having some issues with my SpamBayes that I cannot seem to resolve. SpamBayes had been running properly on my current system for several months until this week when the toolbar functionality started acting weird. The SpamBayes Outlook Addin appears to load properly and filtering occurs properly. The tool bar appears with the 'Delete As Spam' and 'Recover from Spam' buttons appearing. Both of these buttons will work fine for managing (e.g., deleting) a handful of emails (e.g., 5 ~ 10) and then discontinues working. Restarting my computer will yield the same results (the buttons will work for a few emails and then stop working). I have followed the methods described in the troubleshooting guide (deleting the toolbars and completely resetting them). Again, this results in the buttons working temporarily (e.g., for the deletion of 5 ~ 10 emails), but then they discontinue working. Here are the specs on my machine. . Windows Version: Vista . Outlook Version: 2007 . SpamBayes Version: 1.0.4 (March 2005) Any idea what is causing this or ways to prevent it from occurring? Any insights would be greatly appreciated! 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20071024/002ee175/attachment.htm From scampbell at datamax-lr.com Thu Oct 25 23:07:18 2007 From: scampbell at datamax-lr.com (scampbell at datamax-lr.com) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 16:07:18 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Message-ID: <3D4D9CC3D98B8D4B9804225DD36BA5220139E463@arlrdmex01.arlrdm.sg.local> HI, When will the new version be ready for windows? 1.1.X Thank you, James (Stew) Campbell JR. MCP. Datamax/MICRO 7400 Kanis Rd Little Rock, AR. 72204 501-603-3015 The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20071025/64636fc8/attachment.htm From skip at pobox.com Fri Oct 26 04:15:05 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 21:15:05 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <3D4D9CC3D98B8D4B9804225DD36BA5220139E463@arlrdmex01.arlrdm.sg.local> References: <3D4D9CC3D98B8D4B9804225DD36BA5220139E463@arlrdmex01.arlrdm.sg.local> Message-ID: <18209.19881.613632.536669@montanaro.dyndns.org> Stew> When will the new version be ready for windows? 1.1.X No ETA at the moment. Have you tried the current alpha (1.1a4)? We can always use more testing. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ From Andy.Stevens at minoc.com Fri Oct 26 11:58:38 2007 From: Andy.Stevens at minoc.com (Andy Stevens) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 11:58:38 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] distribution request Message-ID: <1B9DF74B024BCE4A917E11BB2F670873035BE280@minoc01.Minoc.local> Hello, My name is Andy Stevens, member of the editorial team of Belgium's leading computer consumer magazine Clickx Magazine. We are including a free covermount DVD with our Clickx Magazine n? 157 (November 13, 2007), and we would like to include SpamBayes on that DVD. Can you please give us your permission to do so? We would like to emphasize that this DVD is a free bonus for our readers, and that they don't have to pay extra for it. Hopefully you'll understand that we have a very tight deadline for the production of this DVD, and that if no objection reaches us by 30/10, we will assume that we can include your freeware on our DVD. Please visit our website www.clickx.be for information on our magazine. You can also take a look at the mediakit from Minoc Business Press, the publisher of our magazine. The pdf is available to download at http://newsletter.minoc.com/sales/pdf/Mediakit_Minoc_2007_Full_UK.pdf - it will give you an idea of our company and portfolio. Kind regards, Andy Stevens ______________________________ Andy Stevens Project Coordinator Clickx Magazine Minoc Business Press NV Parklaan 22 bus 10 | B-2300 Turnhout | Belgium Clickx Magazine | Windows Vista Magazine | FWD | PC Magazine | Smart Business Strategies | IT Professional | ZDNet.be | GameSpot.be -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thank you, Bob Robert Cullenbine, Papa Elf CFO The Family Giving Tree 606 Valley Way, Milpitas, CA 95035 P 408-946-3111 x 212 F 408-946-3711 www.FamilyGivingTree.org Fulfilling Wishes, Changing Lives! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20071026/19ba79ec/attachment.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 1074 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20071026/19ba79ec/attachment.jpeg From newsgroups at Lastwebpage.de Sat Oct 27 01:39:58 2007 From: newsgroups at Lastwebpage.de (Peter Flindt) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 01:39:58 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayse and Vista? References: Message-ID: bob at familygivingtree.org wrote at 27.10.2007 : > Will Spambayes work on Vista Ultimate yet? Thank you, Bob > Robert Cullenbine, Papa Elf > CFO > The Family Giving Tree > 606 Valley Way, Milpitas, CA 95035 > P 408-946-3111 x 212 F 408-946-3711 > www.FamilyGivingTree.org > Fulfilling Wishes, Changing Lives! Hello, there are many postings about Vista and spambayes, for example: news:006d01c80b79$bd5bfd90$3813f8b0$@net Peter From amedee at amedee.be Sat Oct 27 09:46:09 2007 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 09:46:09 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Spambayes] distribution request In-Reply-To: <1B9DF74B024BCE4A917E11BB2F670873035BE280@minoc01.Minoc.local> References: <1B9DF74B024BCE4A917E11BB2F670873035BE280@minoc01.Minoc.local> Message-ID: <2060.81.82.232.30.1193471169.squirrel@intrepid.warp.be> Hi Andy, I have seen this question before on the list. Was it you or a collegue, I don't know. Anyway: the question you should ask isn't asking for permission. The real question is: "is it even necessary to ask permission for the redistribution of non-commercial, free (as in beer), Free (as in speech), open source, community developed and supported software?" The first thing you should really be doing, is reading the SpamBayes license (or ask a legal expert to read it). Iirc the Python licence applies. Nobody owns Spambayes, so nobody can give you permission. Because you don't need permission. But it is nice of you to let the user community of SpamBayes know where our favorite antispam solution will be distributed. I'll make a mental note to tell my dad to pick up a copy - he's a regular reader of SpamBayes. Will you include an article about SpamBayes or will you just put it on the DVD? If you do include an article, please mention this mailing list as the "official" support channel. -- Amedee Van Gasse amedee at amedee.be amedee at tik.be (just a regular SB user) On Fri, October 26, 2007 11:58, Andy Stevens wrote: > Hello, > > > > My name is Andy Stevens, member of the editorial team of Belgium's leading > computer consumer magazine Clickx Magazine. We are including a free > covermount DVD with our Clickx Magazine n? 157 (November 13, 2007), and we > would like to include SpamBayes on that DVD. > > > > Can you please give us your permission to do so? We would like to > emphasize that this DVD is a free bonus for our readers, and that they > don't have to pay extra for it. Hopefully you'll understand that we have a > very tight deadline for the production of this DVD, and that if no > objection reaches us by 30/10, we will assume that we can include your > freeware on our DVD. > > > > Please visit our website www.clickx.be for > information on our magazine. You can also take a look at the mediakit from > Minoc Business Press, the publisher of our magazine. The pdf is available > to download at > http://newsletter.minoc.com/sales/pdf/Mediakit_Minoc_2007_Full_UK.pdf - it > will give you an idea of our company and portfolio. > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Andy Stevens > > > > ______________________________ > > Andy Stevens > > Project Coordinator Clickx Magazine > > > > Minoc Business Press NV > > Parklaan 22 bus 10 | B-2300 Turnhout | Belgium > > > Clickx Magazine | Windows Vista Magazine | FWD | PC Magazine | > > Smart Business Strategies | IT Professional | ZDNet.be | GameSpot.be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SpamBayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html -- From rkiraga at cogeco.ca Mon Oct 29 03:00:04 2007 From: rkiraga at cogeco.ca (Dr. Kiraga) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 22:00:04 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] problem with spambayes configuration Message-ID: <000001c819cf$6cae3520$6701a8c0@library> On opening window Microsot outlook I am Inform about the problem with spambayes configution and instructed to open spambayes window and then pres wizard configuration On spambayes window I am not aible to finde Wisard.Pleas help -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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