From IndiaG at jockgilbert.com.au Thu Nov 1 03:28:27 2007 From: IndiaG at jockgilbert.com.au (India Gad) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 12:58:27 +1030 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Bayes Malfunction - HELP! Message-ID: <535130934217364195BB853D0524EE43AF8F5F@JGSERVER.jgre.internal> Ok, here is a curly one. I installed Spam Bayes on all of the computers here at work. It is working a treat and we are so happy with it. Anyhow, my boss suddenly lost his Spam Bayes toolbar. I unistalled the Spam Bayes software and reinstalled it, but the toolbar didn't come back nor did the Set Up Wizard. So I followed the instructions about deleting the files from the Data Directory and even that didn't work. We'd really like to get the software back on his Outlook. He is using Outlook 2003, however most of us are and we aren't experiencing any problems. Please advise. 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20071101/1b905df3/attachment.htm From jens.andersson at starbreeze.com Thu Nov 1 12:06:38 2007 From: jens.andersson at starbreeze.com (Jens Andersson) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 12:06:38 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Configurate sb_server to not forward spam? Message-ID: <322B2388B4048A4C924F92CAA52A6E9FA5BBF2@mail.starbreeze.com> Hi, I'm going on a long trip where I expect to have limited access to internet. Since I daily receive a large amount of spam, I've been looking into ways to not have to download all that spam when I use my laptop. Sb_server seems like a good approach since I have a Windows-server available that could act as a proxy, but I haven't found a way for it to stop forwarding messages marked as spam. Is there a hidden option for that somewhere? Also, I've been trying to find a good way to train sb_server, but since I use outlook and .pst files I've haven't found it. I found no way of converting a .pst file and no way to import multiple messages that was usable to me. Perhaps sending a single message with all spam/ham-messages as attachments to the SMTP configuration would be possible? Or is there a better way? Thanks, /Jens -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20071101/0292dad5/attachment.htm From bob at familygivingtree.org Thu Nov 1 22:33:31 2007 From: bob at familygivingtree.org (bob at familygivingtree.org) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 14:33:31 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Bayes Malfunction - HELP! In-Reply-To: <535130934217364195BB853D0524EE43AF8F5F@JGSERVER.jgre.internal> References: <535130934217364195BB853D0524EE43AF8F5F@JGSERVER.jgre.internal> Message-ID: I have been getting a bunch of emails from Spambayes like the one below, but from different customers. Please fix this Spambayes. Robert Cullenbine, Papa Elf CFO The Family Giving Tree 606 Valley Way, Milpitas, CA 95035 P 408-946-3111 x 212 F 408-946-3711 www.FamilyGivingTree.org Fulfilling Wishes, Changing Lives! _____ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of India Gad Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 7:28 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Bayes Malfunction - HELP! Ok, here is a curly one. I installed Spam Bayes on all of the computers here at work. It is working a treat and we are so happy with it. Anyhow, my boss suddenly lost his Spam Bayes toolbar. I unistalled the Spam Bayes software and reinstalled it, but the toolbar didn't come back nor did the Set Up Wizard. So I followed the instructions about deleting the files from the Data Directory and even that didn't work. We'd really like to get the software back on his Outlook. He is using Outlook 2003, however most of us are and we aren't experiencing any problems. Please advise. Thank you, India Gad Personal Assistant to Diana Gilbert Company Manager p: 08 8364 1700 f: 08 8364 1703 e: indiag at jockgilbert.com.au Disclaimer: The information contained in this electronic email transmission may be confidential, and may also be the subject of legal professional privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this document or the information contained herein is prohibited. If you have received this information in error, please telephone 61 8 8364 1700 or email the address above. We have taken precautions to minimise the risk of transmitting software viruses, but we advise that you carry out your own virus checks on any attachment (s) relating to this message. We cannot accept liability for any loss or damage caused by software viruses. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20071101/9cc5eb9b/attachment.htm From internationalsales at targetstandards.com Thu Nov 1 21:43:10 2007 From: internationalsales at targetstandards.com (nec-2008) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 17:43:10 -0300 Subject: [Spambayes] NEC-2008 - National Electrical Code 2008 / 864 pages, Download now Message-ID: <1764021-220071141204310473@Notetarget-06> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20071101/2aae85f1/attachment.htm From rojo.editor at verizon.net Sun Nov 4 06:24:05 2007 From: rojo.editor at verizon.net (Joel Rosenthal) Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 01:24:05 -0400 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes not filtering Message-ID: <000001c81ea2$ebcd1380$c3673a80$@editor@verizon.net> I successfully used SpamBayes on Windows XP, Outlook 2003 and 2007 until my hard drive crashed. Now I'm using SpamBayes on Outlook 2007, but no matter what I do, it doesn't filter a single message. It's enabled, and I have tried to train it. Sometimes I check the spam rating of a message I've clicked the Spam button on, and it shows 99% Spam, but it still doesn't work on its own. Here is my latest log file: Loaded bayes database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Rojo\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db' Loaded message database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Rojo\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db' Bayes database initialized with 650 spam and 23630 good messages SpamBayes Outlook Addin Version 1.1a3 (April 2007) on Windows 5.1.2600 (Service Pack 2) using Python 2.4.4 (#71, Feb 5 2007, 15:24:39) [MSC v.1310 32 bit (Intel)] Log created Sun Nov 04 01:01:14 2007 SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Personal Folders/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Personal Folders/Junk E-mail' Processing 0 missed spam in folder 'Inbox' took 29.2113ms FAILED to add the toolbar item 'SpamBayesCommand.Manager' - (-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.', (0, None, None, None, 0, -2147467259), None) The above toolbar message is common - recreating the toolbar... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20071104/2d3bc3a9/attachment.htm From humaoarts at humaoarts.cc Sun Nov 4 01:00:19 2007 From: humaoarts at humaoarts.cc (humaoarts at humaoarts.cc) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 19:00:19 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] ENQUIRY Message-ID: <200711040000.lA400JN3020287@ns1.1195hosting.com> Dear Sir/Madam, I am Mr.Kuri Wara ,managinig director of MINHOU ARTS AND CRAFTS CHINA. We are a trading company that is into the import and export of goods like funiture,industrial,and office equipment,we export these funiture equipments to U.S,Canada and Europe. Owing to the large amount of clients that we have in the U.S.A,we are having difficulty in reaching all of them,therefore we decided to employ representatives in all the states oaf America,Canada,Europe to help us get to our clients. As our representative,you shall serve as a link between us and our clients and you will also be responsible for the collection of payments on our behalf. Note: that you shall have a 10% commission for every payment that you collect on our behalf.Kindly fill this form below and forward to this E-mail ddress: wara_kuri at sanook.com 1.FIRST NAMES : 2.MIDDLE NAME : 3.CONTACT ADDRESS : 4.PHONE NUMBER : 5.FAX NUMBER : 6.COUNTRY OF RESIDENCE : 7.OCCUPATION : 8.MARITAL STATUS : 9.EMAIL ADDRESS Subject to your response,we shall have our company's attorney draft out an agreement to seal up this contract. Best Regards, Kuri Wara From scoopjeff at bigfoot.com Tue Nov 6 23:30:50 2007 From: scoopjeff at bigfoot.com (scoopjeff) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 14:30:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayse and Vista? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <13617503.post@talk.nabble.com> Yes it has worked with Vista ultimate and Outlook since beta days. Well for me anyhow. U must remember to add outllook to DEP within system properties advanced settings. Once you have done this it works a treat. Regards Scoop bob-163 wrote: > > > Will Spambayes work on Vista Ultimate yet? Thank you, Bob > > Robert Cullenbine, Papa Elf > CFO > The Family Giving Tree > 606 Valley Way, Milpitas, CA 95035 > P 408-946-3111 x 212 F 408-946-3711 > www.FamilyGivingTree.org > > Fulfilling Wishes, Changing Lives! > > > > _______________________________________________ > SpamBayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Spambayse-and-Vista--tf4700170.html#a13617503 Sent from the Spambayes - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From scoopjeff at bigfoot.com Tue Nov 6 23:33:04 2007 From: scoopjeff at bigfoot.com (scoopjeff) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 14:33:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spambayes] Any Newer versions to try??? Message-ID: <13617548.post@talk.nabble.com> Im using 1.1a4 version. Is there any newer version to try and test?? Regards Scoop -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Any-Newer-versions-to-try----tf4761494.html#a13617548 Sent from the Spambayes - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From skip at pobox.com Wed Nov 7 02:52:00 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 19:52:00 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Any Newer versions to try??? In-Reply-To: <13617548.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <13617548.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <18225.6720.797453.563877@montanaro.dyndns.org> Scoop> Im using 1.1a4 version. Is there any newer version to try and Scoop> test?? Not yet. Is there something in particular you're having trouble with? I've been working on some pickle file lock stuff but I only began testing it today. It will be in 1.1a5. Are you using the Outlook plugin or something else? -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ From skip at pobox.com Tue Nov 6 18:47:44 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 11:47:44 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes, XP and Outlook 2007 (fwd) Message-ID: <18224.43200.981113.836240@montanaro.dyndns.org> Passing this along in case anyone here can help. Skip -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "Rick Stacy" Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Spambayes, XP and Outlook 2007 Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 09:11:09 -0800 Size: 4869 Url: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20071106/8aeb8fbb/attachment.eml From pogo1 at pacific.net.au Wed Nov 7 14:23:24 2007 From: pogo1 at pacific.net.au (pogo1 at pacific.net.au) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 00:23:24 +1100 (EST) Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy. No messages get classified Message-ID: <20071107132324.6783127403@mailproxy2.pacific.net.au> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: SpamBayesServer1.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 222 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20071108/7d33729b/attachment.obj -------------- next part -------------- I am using SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 1.0.4 (March 2005) (binary), with version 2.3.5 (#62, Feb 8 2005, 16:23:02) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] of Python; my operating system is Windows 5.1.2600.2 (Service Pack 2). I have trained 20 ham and 20 spam. The problem I am having is Nothing gets classified. I've trained 20 of each (Iby hand, cutting and pasting message bodies) I always see "There are no untrained messages to display. Return Home, or check again." I'm running )E6. I copied the ports from the OE setup dialog. What did I miss? From gasior at rogers.com Wed Nov 7 15:21:52 2007 From: gasior at rogers.com (Ed Gasior) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:21:52 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Lance Scott Rawson Message-ID: <000f01c82149$8b454100$6800a8c0@DFW0YQ91> This is a message for Lance Scott Rawson of Punta Gorda FL Please call Ed Gasior at 647-401-7510 or reply to this email. Thank you Ed Gasior -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20071107/51c7d24b/attachment.htm From Ray.Houck at tharpharma.com Thu Nov 8 19:02:07 2007 From: Ray.Houck at tharpharma.com (Houck, Raymond K.) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 13:02:07 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] MS outlook password protected personal folder Message-ID: <42D2FCBEE7468C47984EE336C2614B9A01090889@mercury.thartech.net> Hi If I turn ON the password protection on my outlook 2003 personal folder, spam bytes quits operation and I cannot reenable it on the COM-Add-in page. I click it and it unclick itself. If I take the password protection off, then spam bytes works as normal. Any suggestions? Best Regards, Ray --------------------------------------------------- Raymond K. Houck Thar Pharmaceuticals, Inc. 575 Epsilon Drive Pittsburgh, PA 15238 USA Tel: +1 412 967 5665 x1236 (Please note as of August 27, 2007, my extension has changed) Fax: +1 412 967 9446 Mobile: +1 412 606 7214 rhouck at tharpharma.com This email and any attachments are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this email is not the intended recipient nor the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify us by telephone and return the original message to us at the listed email address. All rights are reserved by Thar Pharmaceuticals, Inc. Thank You. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20071108/ef65792c/attachment.htm From bob at familygivingtree.org Thu Nov 8 20:52:33 2007 From: bob at familygivingtree.org (bob at familygivingtree.org) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 11:52:33 -0800 Subject: [Spambayes] Your email is getting forwarded to me. Message-ID: <8DF03C5F7A774F0B9F4F4DEB536429F2@FGT.local> This is one of many I have been getting. Robert Cullenbine, Papa Elf CFO The Family Giving Tree 606 Valley Way, Milpitas, CA 95035 P 408-946-3111 x 212 F 408-946-3711 www.FamilyGivingTree.org Fulfilling Wishes, Changing Lives! _____ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Houck, Raymond K. Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 10:02 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] MS outlook password protected personal folder Hi If I turn ON the password protection on my outlook 2003 personal folder, spam bytes quits operation and I cannot reenable it on the COM-Add-in page. I click it and it unclick itself. If I take the password protection off, then spam bytes works as normal. Any suggestions? Best Regards, Ray --------------------------------------------------- Raymond K. Houck Thar Pharmaceuticals, Inc. 575 Epsilon Drive Pittsburgh, PA 15238 USA Tel: +1 412 967 5665 x1236 (Please note as of August 27, 2007, my extension has changed) Fax: +1 412 967 9446 Mobile: +1 412 606 7214 rhouck at tharpharma.com This email and any attachments are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this email is not the intended recipient nor the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify us by telephone and return the original message to us at the listed email address. All rights are reserved by Thar Pharmaceuticals, Inc. Thank You. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20071108/4986d369/attachment.htm -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: ATT00025.txt Url: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20071108/4986d369/attachment.txt From jsp at PKC.com Thu Nov 8 21:01:40 2007 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 15:01:40 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Your email is getting forwarded to me. In-Reply-To: <8DF03C5F7A774F0B9F4F4DEB536429F2@FGT.local> References: <8DF03C5F7A774F0B9F4F4DEB536429F2@FGT.local> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F90611512B@PKCVT01.pkc.com> It sounds like you signed up for the SpamBayes list but either did not realize what it meant to do so or have forgotten doing so. Visit http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes if you want to unsubscribe. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of bob at familygivingtree.org Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 2:53 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Your email is getting forwarded to me. This is one of many I have been getting. Robert Cullenbine, Papa Elf CFO The Family Giving Tree 606 Valley Way, Milpitas, CA 95035 P 408-946-3111 x 212 F 408-946-3711 www.FamilyGivingTree.org Fulfilling Wishes, Changing Lives! ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Houck, Raymond K. Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 10:02 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] MS outlook password protected personal folder Hi If I turn ON the password protection on my outlook 2003 personal folder, spam bytes quits operation and I cannot reenable it on the COM-Add-in page. I click it and it unclick itself. If I take the password protection off, then spam bytes works as normal. Any suggestions? Best Regards, Ray --------------------------------------------------- Raymond K. Houck Thar Pharmaceuticals, Inc. 575 Epsilon Drive Pittsburgh, PA 15238 USA Tel: +1 412 967 5665 x1236 (Please note as of August 27, 2007, my extension has changed) Fax: +1 412 967 9446 Mobile: +1 412 606 7214 rhouck at tharpharma.com This email and any attachments are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise exempt from disclosure under applicable law. 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20071108/9ca13040/attachment.htm From spambayes at python.org Fri Nov 9 04:42:09 2007 From: spambayes at python.org (spambayes at python.org) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 04:42:09 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Spambayes] We have gathered a lot of information Message-ID: <20071109034209.0784D3F6F9B@server101.rhs-it.de> RCWars.NET - http://www.rcwars.net Technologies around RC Models and thus RC Warbirds have greatly evolved in the past years. While we still share the excitement of constructing, flying and tuning RC Warbirds, we have also looked beyond this and found something very, very exciting! A new product called RC:Gun has revolutionalized our hobby. It allows us to actually engage in real Air2Air combat By shooting our opponents down. But no worry - the wonderful Warbirds take no real harm. The trick is an ultrasound technology that allows combat without any physical interaction. More in http://www.rcwars.net From spambayes at python.org Fri Nov 9 03:46:49 2007 From: spambayes at python.org (spambayes at python.org) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 03:46:49 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Spambayes] We have gathered a lot of information Message-ID: <20071109024649.CCDE73F46DE@server101.rhs-it.de> RCWars.NET - http://www.rcwars.net Technologies around RC Models and thus RC Warbirds have greatly evolved in the past years. While we still share the excitement of constructing, flying and tuning RC Warbirds, we have also looked beyond this and found something very, very exciting! A new product called RC:Gun has revolutionalized our hobby. It allows us to actually engage in real Air2Air combat By shooting our opponents down. But no worry - the wonderful Warbirds take no real harm. The trick is an ultrasound technology that allows combat without any physical interaction. More in http://www.rcwars.net From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Fri Nov 9 21:51:56 2007 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 15:51:56 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayse and Vista? In-Reply-To: <13617503.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <13617503.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: You mean, of course, _DISABLE_ DEP for Outlook, right? It's been known for ages that DEP breaks something in the Python runtime library and that Spambayes can therefore not run in a DEP-enabled environment. I don't think anything in Vista will change that. Bob > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On > Behalf Of scoopjeff > Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 5:31 PM > To: spambayes at python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Spambayse and Vista? > > > Yes it has worked with Vista ultimate and Outlook since beta days. Well for > me anyhow. U must remember to add outllook to DEP within system properties > advanced settings. Once you have done this it works a treat. > > Regards > Scoop > > bob-163 wrote: > > > > > > Will Spambayes work on Vista Ultimate yet? Thank you, Bob > > > > Robert Cullenbine, Papa Elf > > CFO > > The Family Giving Tree > > 606 Valley Way, Milpitas, CA 95035 > > P 408-946-3111 x 212 F 408-946-3711 > > www.FamilyGivingTree.org > > > > Fulfilling Wishes, Changing Lives! > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SpamBayes at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > > Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Spambayse-and-Vista-- > tf4700170.html#a13617503 > Sent from the Spambayes - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > SpamBayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From trevor at corprit.net Sat Nov 10 06:18:11 2007 From: trevor at corprit.net (Trevor Mason) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:48:11 +1030 Subject: [Spambayes] Rogue user causing problems Message-ID: <20071110053516.5726C5B18@mail.corprit.net> I manage a large number of clients many of whom I have installed with Spambayes to counter their compaints aboutincreasing levels of SPAM and junk email. Significant majority of users - sometimes initially slow to learn the concepts of 'training' the filter - are happy with the job Spambayes is doing for them. I have one user, however, who after 7 months of constant reminding, still manages to delete the "Junk Suspects" folder, claiming he thought that is what he is supposed to do. I don't expect you to tell me how to dismember this person into little pieces =o) but is there a way of ensuring that the Junk Suspects folder cannot be deleted? For an otherwise flawless program IMHO, this is it's only shortfall. I would appreciate any assistance or guidance in this matter. Trevor Mason Mount Gambier, Australia No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.26/1120 - Release Date: 9/11/2007 9:26 AM From skip at pobox.com Sat Nov 10 13:59:16 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 06:59:16 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Rogue user causing problems In-Reply-To: <20071110053516.5726C5B18@mail.corprit.net> References: <20071110053516.5726C5B18@mail.corprit.net> Message-ID: <18229.43812.896906.689122@montanaro.dyndns.org> Trevor> I have one user, however, who after 7 months of constant Trevor> reminding, still manages to delete the "Junk Suspects" folder, Trevor> claiming he thought that is what he is supposed to do. Trevor> I don't expect you to tell me how to dismember this person into Trevor> little pieces =o) but is there a way of ensuring that the Junk Trevor> Suspects folder cannot be deleted? Get him an assistant to read his mail? :-) Skip From trevor at corprit.net Sun Nov 11 22:58:45 2007 From: trevor at corprit.net (Trevor Mason) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:28:45 +1030 Subject: [Spambayes] Rogue user causing problems In-Reply-To: <18229.43812.896906.689122@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <20071111205618.0F575211021@mail.corprit.net> Hey Skip, Thanks for the suggestions (ROFL), tried it already but the "assistant" has already given up in frustration. And given that the rogue is the GM of the company, not sure what else to to. It wouldn't normally bother me, except that every time he breaks it, "it's all my fault", and of course on the occasions that I uninstalled it (frustration!) he complained bitterly about having all the viagra adds in his inbox - of course THAT was my fault too. Do you know of any reg hacks to lock the folder and prevent deletion? I tried googling but found nothing....yet Cheers anyway Trev | -----Original Message----- | From: skip at pobox.com [mailto:skip at pobox.com] | Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2007 11:29 PM | To: trevor at corprit.net | Cc: spambayes at python.org | Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Rogue user causing problems | | | Trevor> I have one user, however, who after 7 months of constant | Trevor> reminding, still manages to delete the "Junk | Suspects" folder, | Trevor> claiming he thought that is what he is supposed to do. | | Trevor> I don't expect you to tell me how to dismember | this person into | Trevor> little pieces =o) but is there a way of ensuring | that the Junk | Trevor> Suspects folder cannot be deleted? | | Get him an assistant to read his mail? :-) | | Skip | | No virus found in this incoming message. | Checked by AVG Free Edition. | Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.26/1120 - Release | Date: 9/11/2007 9:26 AM | | No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.28/1122 - Release Date: 10/11/2007 10:41 AM From ellen at critchleycreative.com Mon Nov 12 02:04:02 2007 From: ellen at critchleycreative.com (D. Ellen Critchley) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:04:02 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] message shows in June E-Mail window Message-ID: <00c601c824c7$ee8c40c0$210110ac@IBM2DB3119A027> Dear Support Team Recently the SpamBayes Junk E-Mail window started displaying the message (in blue) just below the From / Subject / Received line. It never showed this additional information before and I wish to have this information NOT DISPLAYED. How can I change it back to how it has been for the 2+ years I've been using SpamBayes? Thank you for your kind assistance, Ellen ellen at critchleycreative.com 419.535.0068 fax 419.710.0869 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20071111/94ac7443/attachment.htm From jsp at PKC.com Mon Nov 12 13:46:56 2007 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:46:56 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] message shows in June E-Mail window In-Reply-To: <00c601c824c7$ee8c40c0$210110ac@IBM2DB3119A027> References: <00c601c824c7$ee8c40c0$210110ac@IBM2DB3119A027> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F90611534A@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Sounds like you've turned on Outlook's message preview feature. With the Junk folder selected, try choosing View > AutoPreview from the Outlook menu to turn it off. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of D. Ellen Critchley Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 8:04 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] message shows in June E-Mail window Dear Support Team Recently the SpamBayes Junk E-Mail window started displaying the message (in blue) just below the From / Subject / Received line. It never showed this additional information before and I wish to have this information NOT DISPLAYED. How can I change it back to how it has been for the 2+ years I've been using SpamBayes? Thank you for your kind assistance, Ellen ellen at critchleycreative .com 419.535.0068 fax 419.710.0869 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20071112/00608deb/attachment.htm From rob-peterson at stny.rr.com Mon Nov 12 18:11:37 2007 From: rob-peterson at stny.rr.com (Rob Peterson) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:11:37 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Training Issues Message-ID: <001b01c8254f$1ef44c30$5cdce490$@rr.com> Hi, There are some "spam-like" messages from certain e-mail addresses that I would like to receive, but I can't seem to train SpamBayes not to treat them as spam. Is there a way to add an e-mail address to a "safe senders" list within SpamBayes to prevent certain e-mails from being treated as spam? For example, Outlook 2007's (my e-mail client) spam filtering mechanism incorporates a safe sender's list. Thanks, Rob From jsp at PKC.com Mon Nov 12 18:23:25 2007 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:23:25 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Training Issues In-Reply-To: <001b01c8254f$1ef44c30$5cdce490$@rr.com> References: <001b01c8254f$1ef44c30$5cdce490$@rr.com> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F906115357@PKCVT01.pkc.com> >From the FAQ: "If you really need whitelisting, consider implementing rules in your mailer to intercept the messages before they're passed to SpamBayes." By default, the Outlook plug-in is configured to wait briefly before processing messages, with the intent of allowing Outlook rules to execute. You can set up a rule to move messages from addresses that you consider safe to a different folder. You may want to have SpamBayes move ham to that folder as well so you don't have to look for messages in multiple folders. (This is supported in the 1.1 alpha builds.) Another possibility: depending on how "spam-like" the messages in question are, retraining SpamBayes might help. If they really are spammy, it won't. -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Rob Peterson Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 12:12 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Training Issues Hi, There are some "spam-like" messages from certain e-mail addresses that I would like to receive, but I can't seem to train SpamBayes not to treat them as spam. Is there a way to add an e-mail address to a "safe senders" list within SpamBayes to prevent certain e-mails from being treated as spam? For example, Outlook 2007's (my e-mail client) spam filtering mechanism incorporates a safe sender's list. Thanks, Rob _______________________________________________ SpamBayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From kaylasawyer at bellsouth.net Tue Nov 13 08:24:38 2007 From: kaylasawyer at bellsouth.net (kaylasawyer) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 02:24:38 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Enroll your card with Verify By Visa program Message-ID: <000b01c825c6$43b77cf0$0302a8c0@r40> kaylasawyer at yayhoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(383) 3383544 ------------------------------------ Mail.Ru - ??????, ????????, ???????! ------------------------------------ From skip at pobox.com Tue Nov 13 15:49:18 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:49:18 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Rogue user causing problems In-Reply-To: <20071111205618.0F575211021@mail.corprit.net> References: <18229.43812.896906.689122@montanaro.dyndns.org> <20071111205618.0F575211021@mail.corprit.net> Message-ID: <18233.47470.88113.461634@montanaro.dyndns.org> Trevor> Thanks for the suggestions (ROFL), tried it already but the Trevor> "assistant" has already given up in frustration. And given that Trevor> the rogue is the GM of the company, not sure what else to to.... Trevor> Do you know of any reg hacks to lock the folder and prevent Trevor> deletion? Sorry, no. I don't actually use Windows. I just throw darts at it on occasion. Skip From oyinjemi at gmail.com Mon Nov 12 19:25:26 2007 From: oyinjemi at gmail.com (Himage Holdings) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:25:26 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Part-time Manager Needed Message-ID: <200711121825.lACIPQFM030804@host24.the-web-host.com> Attention: Would you like to work online from home and get paid weekly? HimageHolding Ltd, Kowloon, Hong Kong. Needs a book keeper, so we want to know if you will like to work onlinefrom home and get paid weekly without leaving or affecting yourpresent job? Himage Holding Ltd., Kowloon, Hong Kong is an electronics firm here in Kowloon, Hong Kong and we need someone to work for the company as a representative/book keeper in the UK,United States, Canada and the rest of Europe countries. Our company produces and deals in all kinds of electronics here in Kowloon, Hong Kong which we have clients we supply weekly all around the globe in the UK, United states, Canada and rest of Europe countries, our clients make payments for our supplies every week via Bank Transfer or Wire Transfer. So we need someone in the UK, United States, and Canada and Europe countries to work as our representative and assist us in processing the payments from our clients and will be entitled to remuneration. All you need to do is to receive payments from our customers in the UK,United States, Canada and Europe countries, deduct 10% commission and send the balance to us. Do let us know if this is of any interest to you by responding via this email address for correspondence (alfred at himagesholding.com). Regards, Mr. Mr Alfred Wagoner. For: Himage Holding Ltd. http://www.himage.com From canonrt at optonline.net Tue Nov 13 18:28:44 2007 From: canonrt at optonline.net (Canonrt) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:28:44 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Help Please Message-ID: <1EF60A5E7A9B49EA9AD71BB7FAD8A111@Base> OS = Vista Ultimate SB= 1.0.4 MS Office Outlook 2003 11.8169.8172 SP3 I have been using SB & Vista with no problem, then yesterday it stopped filtering. I can't even force using DELETE AS SPAM button. I tried to re-install with no success. The un-install said it did but the re-install said the file was there. These are the error messages I get when installing: Unable to execute file c:\ProgramFiles\SpamBayes\docs\outlook\docs\welcome.html ShellExecute Failed; Code 2 also: Windows cannot find c:\ProgramFiles\SpamBayes\docs\outlook\docs\Troubleshooting.html' Make sure you typed the name correctly and try again. 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Now, for some reason, the suspected junk mail folder in not to be found in my Outlook. I know it is working but can't find it. Where do I look? Thanks. Charlie Curry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20071114/afd84494/attachment.htm From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Wed Nov 14 17:17:44 2007 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:17:44 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 In-Reply-To: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7C6E8@PKCVT01.pkc.com> References: <4709D89C2325744283DF357EB338972CEF6280@ntxbeus13.exchange.xchg> <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905E7C6E8@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Message-ID: I've been using version 1.0.4 with Outlook 2007 on two different XP computers for several months with no problems. Bob From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Jesse Pelton Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 10:33 AM To: Josh Goldman; spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 Mark Hammond has an alpha version that he's using with Outlook 2007. See http://www.mail-archive.com/spambayes at python.org/msg05595.html. For Vista, see http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#does-spambayes-work-on-windows-vista. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Josh Goldman Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 9:39 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2007 Are you planning to release a version which will support Outlook 2007 on XP and/or Vista? Please advise. Thank you. Sincerely, Josh Goldman Vice President Ikram LLC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Will there be any improvements in how SpamBayes shares processor time with the rest of Outlook? Thanks, Drew Wolff -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20071115/16f77fe4/attachment.htm From ccolombi at bigpond.net.au Sat Nov 17 13:02:58 2007 From: ccolombi at bigpond.net.au (Clint Colombin) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:02:58 +1100 Subject: [Spambayes] help please Message-ID: <001001c82911$cbe6e9f0$0300000a@egou2nvsvnh706> I recently had to re-install winXP. this in itself was fine, however since doing so the SB service won't work. Nor will the tray icon. they both stop just after starting. am i missing something in the required programs / services? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20071117/499b52d4/attachment.htm From mobiledreamers at gmail.com Sun Nov 18 11:02:36 2007 From: mobiledreamers at gmail.com (mobiledreamers at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 02:02:36 -0800 Subject: [Spambayes] Programming Outlook with Python Message-ID: Hi I m looking for how to program Outlook with Python I want to make a simple toolbar, an Outook pane and access the addressbook Is it getting easier with Ironpython I m also trying to hire a developer to do the same thanks Mark -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20071118/8c7842d3/attachment.htm From david.irving at lusas.com Thu Nov 22 12:02:49 2007 From: david.irving at lusas.com (David Irving) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 11:02:49 -0000 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes with Outlook 2007 Message-ID: Can anyone tell me if SpamBayes works with Outlook 2007. From newsgroups at Lastwebpage.de Thu Nov 22 12:49:41 2007 From: newsgroups at Lastwebpage.de (Peter Flindt) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 12:49:41 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes with Outlook 2007 References: Message-ID: David Irving wrote at 22.11.2007 : > Can anyone tell me if SpamBayes works with Outlook 2007. Yes, read one of the 50th other posts about OL2007 in this newsgroup. ;) Peter From rojo.editor at verizon.net Thu Nov 22 21:23:02 2007 From: rojo.editor at verizon.net (Joel Rosenthal) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 15:23:02 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes with Outlook 2007 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <037101c82d45$7c282c20$74788460$@editor@verizon.net> I used SpamBayes successfully with Outlook 2007 and Windows XP Pro SP2 for several months. But after I had to rebuild my computer, I haven't been able to get SpamBayes to actually filter any mail. The toolbar works fine, but no matter what I do, it won't filter mail on its own. If anybody can help me get SpamBayes to start filtering my mail by itself, I'd be appreciative. But David, because of my past success with it, I recommend that you install it and see. -----Original Message----- Can anyone tell me if SpamBayes works with Outlook 2007. From amedee at amedee.be Mon Nov 26 16:47:54 2007 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:47:54 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Spambayes] Rogue user causing problems In-Reply-To: <20071111205618.0F575211021@mail.corprit.net> References: <20071111205618.0F575211021@mail.corprit.net> Message-ID: <13941.193.121.250.194.1196092074.squirrel@intrepid.warp.be> On Sun, November 11, 2007 22:58, Trevor Mason wrote: > Hey Skip, > Thanks for the suggestions (ROFL), tried it already but the "assistant" > has > already given up in frustration. > And given that the rogue is the GM of the company, not sure what else to > to. > It wouldn't normally bother me, except that every time he breaks it, "it's > all my fault", and of course on the occasions that I uninstalled it > (frustration!) he complained bitterly about having all the viagra adds in > his inbox - of course THAT was my fault too. > Do you know of any reg hacks to lock the folder and prevent deletion? I > tried googling but found nothing....yet > Cheers anyway > Trev Trevor, How about creating a dummy IMAP (or Exchange, if that is your poison) folder somewhere, making it read-only on the server, and configuring it as the spam folder? That way your user will get a nice "permission denied" message every time he tries to mess with the system. -- Amedee Van Gasse amedee at amedee.be From HMerkle at charter.net Tue Nov 27 03:21:36 2007 From: HMerkle at charter.net (Hank Merkle) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:21:36 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] unexpected filtering Message-ID: I have a newsletter I subscribe to and find that Spam bays sends it to junk regularly. How do I tell Spam bays that this is an acceptable e-mail? a.. the version of Windows you are using - Windows XP, MS Outlook 200 SR1 b.. the version of SpamBayes 1.0.4 March 2005 c.. any log files. - see below; Combined Score: 0% (5.55112e-017) Internal ham score (*H*): 1 Internal spam score (*S*): 1.11022e-016 # ham trained on: 249 # spam trained on: 1997 150 Significant Tokens token spamprob #ham #spam 'subject:Wood' 0.00391645 57 0 'url:ver' 0.0042898 52 0 'full?' 0.00617284 36 0 'posted:' 0.00617284 36 0 '549' 0.00634697 35 0 '60661' 0.00634697 35 0 'feedburner' 0.00634697 35 0 'feedburner,' 0.00634697 35 0 'feedburner.' 0.00634697 35 0 'message-id:@deepstorage1' 0.00634697 35 0 'now.email' 0.00634697 35 0 'randolph,' 0.00634697 35 0 'sender:addr:bounce-2468443' 0.00634697 35 0 'sender:addr:emailenfuego.net' 0.00634697 35 0 'skip:/ 40' 0.00634697 35 0 'subject:Whisperer' 0.00634697 35 0 'unsubcribe' 0.00634697 35 0 'url:2468443' 0.00634697 35 0 'url:atom' 0.00634697 35 0 'url:emailunsub' 0.00634697 35 0 'url:feed-icon16x16' 0.00634697 35 0 'url:feedburner' 0.00634697 35 0 'url:feeds' 0.00634697 35 0 'url:thewoodwhisperer' 0.00634697 35 0 'url:tww300' 0.00634697 35 0 'url:wy88eztvrv' 0.00634697 35 0 'url:~3' 0.00634697 35 0 'url:~r' 0.00634697 35 0 'whisperer' 0.00634697 35 0 'url:xhtml1' 0.00670776 51 1 'url:js' 0.00693374 32 0 '2007' 0.00760418 77 3 'url:pagead' 0.00764007 29 0 'url:googlesyndication' 0.00790861 28 0 'url:pagead2' 0.00790861 28 0 'url:show_ads' 0.00790861 28 0 'url:key' 0.00893662 38 1 'url:xhtml1-transitional' 0.00893662 38 1 'reader.' 0.00941811 36 1 '9th' 0.0110024 20 0 '60610' 0.0115681 19 0 'kinzie,' 0.0115681 19 0 'url:2005' 0.0123218 37 2 'wood' 0.0134733 79 7 'subscribe' 0.0142441 66 6 'url:1999' 0.0154597 37 3 'url:xhtml' 0.0154597 37 3 'url:fb' 0.0163024 35 3 'file:' 0.0167286 13 0 'sender:no real name:2**0' 0.0193521 48 6 'url:autoplay' 0.0196507 11 0 'url:blip' 0.0196507 11 0 'url:false' 0.0196507 11 0 'url:file_type' 0.0196507 11 0 'url:flv' 0.0196507 11 0 'url:get' 0.0196507 11 0 'url:player_height' 0.0196507 11 0 'url:player_width' 0.0196507 11 0 'url:pokkariplayer' 0.0196507 11 0 'url:posts_id' 0.0196507 11 0 'url:skin' 0.0196507 11 0 'url:syndication' 0.0196507 11 0 'url:write_player' 0.0196507 11 0 'url:~5' 0.0196507 11 0 'c/o' 0.0206366 39 5 'url:mp4' 0.0215311 10 0 'feed' 0.0222663 36 5 'url:pub' 0.0222663 36 5 'posting' 0.0231336 14 1 'mail,' 0.0247919 37 6 'url:tv' 0.0266683 12 1 'virus: Received: from aarpub03.charter.net ([10.20.200.166]) by mtai05.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.00 201-2186-121-20061213) with ESMTP id <20071126142349.MPPO12551.mtai05.charter.net at aarpub03.charter.net> for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 09:23:49 -0500 Received: from smtp.emailenfuego.net ([66.150.96.100]) by aarpub03.charter.net with ESMTP id <20071126142349.IXCQ4903.aarpub03.charter.net at smtp.emailenfuego.net> for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 09:23:49 -0500 Received: from deepstorage1.feedburner.com ([192.168.5.105]:32848 helo=deepstorage1) by smtp.emailenfuego.net (smtp3.emailenfuego.net [192.168.5.176]:25) with esmtp id 1IwesH-0002Ty-AX (MailBurner 5.49) for hmerkle -at- charter.net (return-path ); Mon, 26 Nov 2007 08:23:49 -0600 Message-ID: <15705175.353721196087026874.JavaMail.rsspp at deepstorage1> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 08:23:46 -0600 (CST) From: The Wood Whisperer Video Podcast Reply-To: The Wood Whisperer Video Podcast Sender: bounce-2468443 at emailenfuego.net To: hmerkle at charter.net Subject: The Wood Whisperer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_35368_25293433.1196087026840" X-Chzlrs: 0 The Wood Whisperer Video Podcast /////////////////////////////////////////// Episode 33- On the Edge Posted: 25 Nov 2007 09:32 PM CST http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/TheWoodWhisperer/~3/190506613/ Low Resolution Version High Resolution Version Click To Play play_blip_movie_508571(); I was working on a simple cabinet recently and I started thinking of all the different ways there are to cover the exposed edges of plywood. 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I was working on a simple cabinet recently and I started thinking of all the different ways there are to cover the exposed edges of plywood. Veneer tape, solid edge banding, oversized edgebanding, and even joinery itself all do a fine job of hiding this unsightly side-effect of using plywood. And since plywood seems to enter our shops more frequently than not, its important to know how to deal with it. With a little know-how, you’ll be edging plywood like a pro in no time.

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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20071127/813f046c/attachment.htm From Support at audiography.com.au Tue Nov 27 05:26:59 2007 From: Support at audiography.com.au (Audiography Support) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:26:59 +1100 Subject: [Spambayes] Rogue user causing problems In-Reply-To: <20071110053516.5726C5B18@mail.corprit.net> References: <20071110053516.5726C5B18@mail.corprit.net> Message-ID: <474B9C93.9040204@audiography.com.au> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20071127/1d1c9a70/attachment.htm From thruska at cubiclesoft.com Tue Nov 27 15:01:44 2007 From: thruska at cubiclesoft.com (Thomas Hruska) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:01:44 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Feature idea: Autobalancing ham/spam Message-ID: <474C2348.8090808@cubiclesoft.com> I've been thinking about how I'm going to balance my ham (10,641 messages) and spam (60,230 messages). What I plan on doing is discarding spam and then just train on ham until they are balanced. It will take a while because the incoming ratio of ham to spam is fairly ridiculous. While this approach will work, I'm thinking it would be nice for Spambayes to automatically balance itself when some configurable percentage is hit on either end of the spectrum so that I wouldn't have to worry about it. There will ALWAYS be more spam than ham. Most users of Spambayes think like me: Continue training on the spam in the hope that it will completely go away. Why concern users with balance issues that should be, IMO, handled automatically? Another option could be to calculate the ratio of ham to spam and alter the "strength" of the ham/spam clues according to the ratio. However, this is probably a bad idea. I'm running Spambayes 1.0.4. -- Thomas Hruska CubicleSoft President Ph: 517-803-4197 *NEW* MyTaskFocus 1.1 Get on task. Stay on task. http://www.CubicleSoft.com/MyTaskFocus/ From jsp at PKC.com Tue Nov 27 14:19:31 2007 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:19:31 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] unexpected filtering In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F90625222D@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Are you sure that it's SpamBayes and not Outlook or Exchange that's putting this message in your junk folder? The scoring clearly indicates that SpamBayes does not think the message is spam. Note that SpamBayes 1.0.4 cannot be configured to move ham messages. This means that even if you have your version of SpamBayes configured to filter Outlook's "Junk E-mail" folder, it will only move messages that SpamBayes scores as spam. Any messages that SpamBayes thinks are ham will be left in the "Junk E-mail" folder. The SpamBayes 1.1 alpha software can move ham as well as spam, so good messages can be moved from Outlook's junk folder to the inbox. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Hank Merkle Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 9:22 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] unexpected filtering I have a newsletter I subscribe to and find that Spam bays sends it to junk regularly. How do I tell Spam bays that this is an acceptable e-mail? * the version of Windows you are using - Windows XP, MS Outlook 200 SR1 * the version of SpamBayes 1.0.4 March 2005 * any log files. - see below; Combined Score: 0% (5.55112e-017) Internal ham score (*H*): 1 Internal spam score (*S*): 1.11022e-016 # ham trained on: 249 # spam trained on: 1997 150 Significant Tokens token spamprob #ham #spam 'subject:Wood' 0.00391645 57 0 'url:ver' 0.0042898 52 0 'full?' 0.00617284 36 0 'posted:' 0.00617284 36 0 '549' 0.00634697 35 0 '60661' 0.00634697 35 0 'feedburner' 0.00634697 35 0 'feedburner,' 0.00634697 35 0 'feedburner.' 0.00634697 35 0 'message-id:@deepstorage1' 0.00634697 35 0 'now.email' 0.00634697 35 0 'randolph,' 0.00634697 35 0 'sender:addr:bounce-2468443' 0.00634697 35 0 'sender:addr:emailenfuego.net' 0.00634697 35 0 'skip:/ 40' 0.00634697 35 0 'subject:Whisperer' 0.00634697 35 0 'unsubcribe' 0.00634697 35 0 'url:2468443' 0.00634697 35 0 'url:atom' 0.00634697 35 0 'url:emailunsub' 0.00634697 35 0 'url:feed-icon16x16' 0.00634697 35 0 'url:feedburner' 0.00634697 35 0 'url:feeds' 0.00634697 35 0 'url:thewoodwhisperer' 0.00634697 35 0 'url:tww300' 0.00634697 35 0 'url:wy88eztvrv' 0.00634697 35 0 'url:~3' 0.00634697 35 0 'url:~r' 0.00634697 35 0 'whisperer' 0.00634697 35 0 'url:xhtml1' 0.00670776 51 1 'url:js' 0.00693374 32 0 '2007' 0.00760418 77 3 'url:pagead' 0.00764007 29 0 'url:googlesyndication' 0.00790861 28 0 'url:pagead2' 0.00790861 28 0 'url:show_ads' 0.00790861 28 0 'url:key' 0.00893662 38 1 'url:xhtml1-transitional' 0.00893662 38 1 'reader.' 0.00941811 36 1 '9th' 0.0110024 20 0 '60610' 0.0115681 19 0 'kinzie,' 0.0115681 19 0 'url:2005' 0.0123218 37 2 'wood' 0.0134733 79 7 'subscribe' 0.0142441 66 6 'url:1999' 0.0154597 37 3 'url:xhtml' 0.0154597 37 3 'url:fb' 0.0163024 35 3 'file:' 0.0167286 13 0 'sender:no real name:2**0' 0.0193521 48 6 'url:autoplay' 0.0196507 11 0 'url:blip' 0.0196507 11 0 'url:false' 0.0196507 11 0 'url:file_type' 0.0196507 11 0 'url:flv' 0.0196507 11 0 'url:get' 0.0196507 11 0 'url:player_height' 0.0196507 11 0 'url:player_width' 0.0196507 11 0 'url:pokkariplayer' 0.0196507 11 0 'url:posts_id' 0.0196507 11 0 'url:skin' 0.0196507 11 0 'url:syndication' 0.0196507 11 0 'url:write_player' 0.0196507 11 0 'url:~5' 0.0196507 11 0 'c/o' 0.0206366 39 5 'url:mp4' 0.0215311 10 0 'feed' 0.0222663 36 5 'url:pub' 0.0222663 36 5 'posting' 0.0231336 14 1 'mail,' 0.0247919 37 6 'url:tv' 0.0266683 12 1 'virus: Received: from aarpub03.charter.net ([10.20.200.166]) by mtai05.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.00 201-2186-121-20061213) with ESMTP id <20071126142349.MPPO12551.mtai05.charter.net at aarpub03.charter.net> for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 09:23:49 -0500 Received: from smtp.emailenfuego.net ([66.150.96.100]) by aarpub03.charter.net with ESMTP id <20071126142349.IXCQ4903.aarpub03.charter.net at smtp.emailenfuego.net> for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 09:23:49 -0500 Received: from deepstorage1.feedburner.com ([192.168.5.105]:32848 helo=deepstorage1) by smtp.emailenfuego.net (smtp3.emailenfuego.net [192.168.5.176]:25) with esmtp id 1IwesH-0002Ty-AX (MailBurner 5.49) for hmerkle -at- charter.net (return-path ); Mon, 26 Nov 2007 08:23:49 -0600 Message-ID: <15705175.353721196087026874.JavaMail.rsspp at deepstorage1> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 08:23:46 -0600 (CST) From: The Wood Whisperer Video Podcast Reply-To: The Wood Whisperer Video Podcast Sender: bounce-2468443 at emailenfuego.net To: hmerkle at charter.net Subject: The Wood Whisperer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_35368_25293433.1196087026840" X-Chzlrs: 0 The Wood Whisperer Video Podcast /////////////////////////////////////////// Episode 33- On the Edge Posted: 25 Nov 2007 09:32 PM CST http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/TheWoodWhisperer/~3/190506613/ Low Resolution Version High Resolution Version Click To Play play_blip_movie_508571(); I was working on a simple cabinet recently and I started thinking of all the different ways there are to cover the exposed edges of plywood. Veneer tape, solid edge banding, oversized edgebanding, and even joinery itself all do a fine job of hiding this unsightly side-effect of using plywood. And since plywood seems to enter our shops more frequently than not, its important to know how to deal with it. With a little know-how, youll be edging plywood like a pro in no time. ***Note*** If you like what you see and you want to support the cause, please consider donating. There are no set amounts. Just decide what the show was worth to YOU. This posting includes a media file: http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/TheWoodWhisperer/~5/190506614/TheWoodWhis perer-Episode33869.mp4 -- You are subscribed to email updates from "The Wood Whisperer Video Podcast." 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I was working on a simple cabinet recently and I started thinking of all the different ways there are to cover the exposed edges of plywood. Veneer tape, solid edge banding, oversized edgebanding, and even joinery itself all do a fine job of hiding this unsightly side-effect of using plywood. And since plywood seems to enter our shops more frequently than not, its important to know how to deal with it. With a little know-how, you’ll be edging plywood like a pro in no time.

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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20071127/e12b89a6/attachment-0001.htm From amedee at amedee.be Wed Nov 28 11:22:35 2007 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 11:22:35 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Spambayes] Feature idea: Autobalancing ham/spam In-Reply-To: <474C2348.8090808@cubiclesoft.com> References: <474C2348.8090808@cubiclesoft.com> Message-ID: <29016.193.121.250.194.1196245355.squirrel@intrepid.warp.be> On Tue, November 27, 2007 15:01, Thomas Hruska wrote: > I've been thinking about how I'm going to balance my ham (10,641 > messages) and spam (60,230 messages). What I plan on doing is > discarding spam and then just train on ham until they are balanced. It > will take a while because the incoming ratio of ham to spam is fairly > ridiculous. > > While this approach will work, I'm thinking it would be nice for > Spambayes to automatically balance itself when some configurable > percentage is hit on either end of the spectrum so that I wouldn't have > to worry about it. There will ALWAYS be more spam than ham. Most users > of Spambayes think like me: Continue training on the spam in the hope > that it will completely go away. Why concern users with balance issues > that should be, IMO, handled automatically? I think it is easier to acknowledge that spam won't go away, that no solution is perfect, and that it is less work to retrain from scratch when your ham/spam ratio becomes ridiculous. -- Amedee Van Gasse amedee at amedee.be From skip at pobox.com Wed Nov 28 14:11:04 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 07:11:04 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Feature idea: Autobalancing ham/spam In-Reply-To: <29016.193.121.250.194.1196245355.squirrel@intrepid.warp.be> References: <474C2348.8090808@cubiclesoft.com> <29016.193.121.250.194.1196245355.squirrel@intrepid.warp.be> Message-ID: <18253.26856.416999.812393@montanaro.dyndns.org> Amedee> I think it is easier to acknowledge that spam won't go away, Amedee> that no solution is perfect, and that it is less work to retrain Amedee> from scratch when your ham/spam ratio becomes ridiculous. Or simply whack off your oldest spam messages to keep things more-or-less balanced. Skip From thruska at cubiclesoft.com Wed Nov 28 15:38:20 2007 From: thruska at cubiclesoft.com (Thomas Hruska) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 07:38:20 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Feature idea: Autobalancing ham/spam In-Reply-To: <18253.26856.416999.812393@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <474C2348.8090808@cubiclesoft.com> <29016.193.121.250.194.1196245355.squirrel@intrepid.warp.be> <18253.26856.416999.812393@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <474D7D5C.7090804@cubiclesoft.com> skip at pobox.com wrote: > Amedee> I think it is easier to acknowledge that spam won't go away, > Amedee> that no solution is perfect, and that it is less work to retrain > Amedee> from scratch when your ham/spam ratio becomes ridiculous. > > Or simply whack off your oldest spam messages to keep things more-or-less > balanced. > > Skip It would be nice if Spambayes could do the "whacking-and-retrain" thing automatically every so often (obviously would need configuration options). For those of us who don't want to have to think about it. -- Thomas Hruska CubicleSoft President Ph: 517-803-4197 *NEW* MyTaskFocus 1.1 Get on task. Stay on task. http://www.CubicleSoft.com/MyTaskFocus/ From emu-w at btconnect.com Wed Nov 28 23:18:30 2007 From: emu-w at btconnect.com (emu-w) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 22:18:30 -0000 Subject: [Spambayes] Need to delete Spambayes - how? Message-ID: Hi Have tried to uninstall Spambayes as i have anew product which includes an excellent spam checker - how can i do this? I keep being told i have a file missing, therefore cannot delete it! NB Have changed my email address - was emu-w at uwclub.net now emu-w at btconnect.com E -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 1636 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20071128/c859c799/attachment.bin From amedee at amedee.be Thu Nov 29 11:56:32 2007 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:56:32 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Spambayes] Feature idea: Autobalancing ham/spam In-Reply-To: <18253.26856.416999.812393@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <474C2348.8090808@cubiclesoft.com> <29016.193.121.250.194.1196245355.squirrel@intrepid.warp.be> <18253.26856.416999.812393@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <49249.193.121.250.194.1196333792.squirrel@intrepid.warp.be> On Wed, November 28, 2007 14:11, skip at pobox.com wrote: > > Amedee> I think it is easier to acknowledge that spam won't go away, > Amedee> that no solution is perfect, and that it is less work to > retrain > Amedee> from scratch when your ham/spam ratio becomes ridiculous. > > Or simply whack off your oldest spam messages to keep things more-or-less > balanced. That would imply archiving your spam AND ham & retraining from scratch every time? I think most people just classify&delete spam. With an average spam message size of 12730 bytes on my system, how many megabytes of storage do you recommend? -- Amedee Van Gasse amedee at amedee.be From dave at boost-consulting.com Thu Nov 29 13:14:50 2007 From: dave at boost-consulting.com (David Abrahams) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 07:14:50 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Feature idea: Autobalancing ham/spam References: <474C2348.8090808@cubiclesoft.com> <29016.193.121.250.194.1196245355.squirrel@intrepid.warp.be> <18253.26856.416999.812393@montanaro.dyndns.org> <474D7D5C.7090804@cubiclesoft.com> Message-ID: <87y7chgsed.fsf@grogan.peloton> on Wed Nov 28 2007, Thomas Hruska wrote: > skip at pobox.com wrote: >> Amedee> I think it is easier to acknowledge that spam won't go away, >> Amedee> that no solution is perfect, and that it is less work to retrain >> Amedee> from scratch when your ham/spam ratio becomes ridiculous. >> >> Or simply whack off your oldest spam messages to keep things more-or-less >> balanced. >> >> Skip > > It would be nice if Spambayes could do the "whacking-and-retrain" thing > automatically every so often (obviously would need configuration > options). For those of us who don't want to have to think about it. The train-to-exhaustion script in contrib/tte.py does essentially that. -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting http://www.boost-consulting.com From skip at pobox.com Thu Nov 29 14:01:17 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 07:01:17 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Feature idea: Autobalancing ham/spam In-Reply-To: <49249.193.121.250.194.1196333792.squirrel@intrepid.warp.be> References: <474C2348.8090808@cubiclesoft.com> <29016.193.121.250.194.1196245355.squirrel@intrepid.warp.be> <18253.26856.416999.812393@montanaro.dyndns.org> <49249.193.121.250.194.1196333792.squirrel@intrepid.warp.be> Message-ID: <18254.47133.822479.60100@montanaro.dyndns.org> >> Or simply whack off your oldest spam messages to keep things >> more-or-less balanced. Amedee> That would imply archiving your spam AND ham & retraining from Amedee> scratch every time? Archive the ham and spam I train on, yes. Archive everything? No way. I train on unsures and mistakes only. At the moment my ham archive is 54 messages (1.2MB). My spam archive was 175 messages. I just reduced it to 100 (1.1MB) and will retrain later once I'm back online. Skip From emu-w at btconnect.com Thu Nov 29 23:23:07 2007 From: emu-w at btconnect.com (emu-w) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 22:23:07 -0000 Subject: [Spambayes] Uninstalling Spambayes Message-ID: Hi I now have a spam checker which will not work correctly with Spambayes in situe - i have attempted to uninstall Spambayes - this failed. So i found all Spambayes files and deleted them manually. i am still left with files in folders called bin and lib which i am told i am not allowed to delete. This is very frustrating - how do i get rid of Spambayes!!!! Evelyn -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Mark _____________________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of emu-w Sent: Friday, 30 November 2007 9:23 AM To: Spambayes Subject: [Spambayes] Uninstalling Spambayes Hi I now have a spam checker which will not work correctly with Spambayes in situe - i have attempted to uninstall Spambayes - this failed. So i found all Spambayes files and deleted them manually. i am still left with files in folders called bin and lib which i am told i am not allowed to delete. This is very frustrating - how do i get rid of Spambayes!!!! Evelyn << File: ATT01314.txt >> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 8254 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20071130/d4e329cb/attachment.bin