From amedee at amedee.be Mon Jan 1 01:30:12 2007 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2007 01:30:12 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes compatibility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1167611412.8203.30.camel@localhost> Op zondag 31-12-2006 om 13:53 uur [tijdzone -0800], schreef Steve Cotler: > Do you have any plans to make a Mac OS X version compatible with > Entourage? According to the website, SpamBayes is already compatible with Mac OS X: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/mac.html In short: SpamBayes works on Mac OS X in exactly the same way as on Linux, because the Mac OS X kernel is actually based on Unix, just like the Linux kernel is. Linux and Mac OS X can be considered as siblings. ;-) Is this good enough for you, or did you mean something else? If you meant integration inside the Entourage application, just like the SpamBayes plugin for MicroSoft OutLook, I don't think the developers have any plans for that. Perhaps if you donate a Mac... ;-) Oh and by the way, if there is going to be a plugin for Entourage, why not one for Thunderbird, Evolution, KMail, Mutt,... That would be great too! Disclaimer: I'm not a developer. -- Amedee Van Gasse amedee at amedee.be From skip at pobox.com Mon Jan 1 02:24:04 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 19:24:04 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes compatibility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <17816.25268.117147.417143@montanaro.dyndns.org> Steve> Do you have any plans to make a Mac OS X version compatible with Steve> Entourage? None that I'm aware of. The Mac community is much smaller than Windows and within that community I think Mail.app is probably the prevalent mail program (maybe Thunderbird is second?). Does Entourage provide a usable plugin API? Is it not possible to use the POP3 proxy or the IMAP filter with Entourage+Exchange? Skip From skip at pobox.com Mon Jan 1 16:00:15 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 09:00:15 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Images of commercial text with decoy text are mushing my index In-Reply-To: <9530b3c0612312159w58d351c6jee842d054886777d@mail.gmail.com> References: <17812.64642.873558.253609@montanaro.dyndns.org> <9530b3c0612312159w58d351c6jee842d054886777d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <17817.8703.907178.386199@montanaro.dyndns.org> Jamie> since the decoy text is completely non-commercial in nature, it Jamie> seems to be polluting my index and making detection less Jamie> accurate. With OCR, will this continue to be an issue? Sure, if the decoy text actually turns out to be relevant from a scoring standpoint. By default the SpamBayes classifier only considers tokens (words) which score <= 0.4 or >= 0.6. My guess is that most of the words in the decoy text are clustered around 0.5 so aren't even considered. Skip From skip at pobox.com Mon Jan 1 16:46:25 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 09:46:25 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Images of commercial text with decoy text are mushing my index In-Reply-To: <17817.8703.907178.386199@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <17812.64642.873558.253609@montanaro.dyndns.org> <9530b3c0612312159w58d351c6jee842d054886777d@mail.gmail.com> <17817.8703.907178.386199@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <17817.11473.440493.834916@montanaro.dyndns.org> Jamie> With OCR, will this continue to be an issue? Forgot to answer this question. The decoy text will still be considered using the same parameters. By default, the classifier only considers the 150 most highest and lowest scoring tokens, so if the message is near that limit, adding high- or low-scoring OCR-generated tokens will push some other tokens out of consideration. OTOH, the problem with most of these image spams is generally that there are very few tokens of any significance. They tend to score near 0.50 as a whole without the contribution of OCR-generated tokens. (Most of the tokens extracted from the decoy text generally score near 0.5 and are discarded.) The only way to tell for sure is to examine the tokens generated and their scores to see what is contributing to the overall classification. Skip From greeengrass at hotmail.com Mon Jan 1 20:56:52 2007 From: greeengrass at hotmail.com (george jones) Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2007 14:56:52 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] still waiting for answer Message-ID: Hi, where is the spambayes executable located and what is the execution command? I am still waiting for reply on why I have to reboot my OS X if I shut down the OS X version of spambayes, and want to restart spambayes. (this is not necessary in windows, of course, where of course, more time is spent developing the app). Please inform if my questions are not clear & I will try to phrase them such that I can receive a solution, to what I think is a simple question. _________________________________________________________________ Dave vs. Carl: The Insignificant Championship Series. ?Who will win? http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://davevscarl.spaces.live.com/?icid=T001MSN38C07001 From skip at pobox.com Mon Jan 1 22:09:15 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 15:09:15 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] still waiting for answer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <17817.30843.644149.517520@montanaro.dyndns.org> george> I am still waiting for reply on why I have to reboot my OS X if george> I shut down the OS X version of spambayes, and want to restart george> spambayes. It's not clear what OS X version of SpamBayes you are referring to or what SpamBayes application(s) you use. I sort of suspect it's the one packaged by Sam Thorne and mentioned here: http://entrian.com/sbwiki/MacOSXPackage but I'm not certain. If so, you might ask Sam if he knows what's going on. Also, the version references on that page are to 1.0rc1 (May 2004). That's kind of ancient. The current stable release is 1.0.4 and 1.1 is in alpha test. george> Please inform if my questions are not clear & I will try to george> phrase them such that I can receive a solution, to what I think george> is a simple question. Simple questions don't always have simple answers. In this case, I suspect few people use the Mac OSX package you refer to. I use a Mac and just install from source. Skip From wmhunter at midsouth.rr.com Tue Jan 2 01:10:23 2007 From: wmhunter at midsouth.rr.com (Bill Hunter) Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 18:10:23 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Have lost my junk suspect file In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi, Jackie, What you may have done is select the Junk Suspects file, select "Edit" in the Outlook command toolbar, and "Select All". Then, you deleted all the selected e-mails. This action will delete all the selected e-mails in the Junk Suspects file, but will also delete the file, itself. What you have to do is go to the Junk Suspects file, highlight the top e-mail, then manually scroll down, using the side scroll bar, or your mouse scroll wheel. When you get to the bottom of the list, press the Shift key, then select the last e-mail in the list. All the e-mails in the list are highlighted. Select "Delete As Spam" in the SpamBeyes toolbar. All of the selected e-mails will be sent to the "Junk Mail" file. Just go in there and repeat the process, this time selecting the "X" (Delete) in the Outlook toolbar, or the "Delete" key on your keyboard, of, if you are running XP, the "Empty Junk Mail File" command, in the SpamBeyes drop down menu. You can easily recover from accidentally deleting the "Junk Suspects" file by selecting "Inbox", selecting "New" in the Outlook toolbar, and select "Folder". Name the new folder, "Junk Suspects", click OK, and you are set. SpamBeyes will start sending suspects back to the Junk Suspects folder. Good luck with it. I'm sure there are a lot of people on this list who know the program much better than I, who can help you, but this should get you back on track. Bill Hunter wmhunter at midsouth.rr.com From bttyt at cox.net Tue Jan 2 04:51:32 2007 From: bttyt at cox.net (Stacey Wight) Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 21:51:32 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] email Message-ID: HELLO, WHAT IF I PUT SOMEONE IN THE SPAM JUNK EMAIL BUT SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN. I CANNOT FIND ANYTHING TO CLICK TO UN-SPAM AND EMAIL. HOW DO I PUT THEM AS SAFE OR UNMARK AS 'NOT SPAM'? THANKS, STACEY -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070101/ce8f3b5a/attachment.html From jsp at PKC.com Tue Jan 2 15:17:24 2007 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 09:17:24 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <000601c72760$c892b530$6502a8c0@NANCY> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F904FAD7DD@PKCVT01.pkc.com> You appear to be using Outlook Express. If so, please see http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#does-spambayes-work-with-outlo ok-express and http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#how-do-i-set-up-spambayes-and- outlook-express. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of dan mckenzie Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 8:38 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) I have just tried to install spambayes on both of my computers but neither one works. There aren't any tool bars or folders for spam or the unsure spam folder. I have windows xp version in both computers and have tried uninstalling, re-installing and shutting down my computers without any success. I also am running them through a Linksys wrt54g router.Can you be of any help? Thanks, Dan Mckenzie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070102/b5d11bb4/attachment.html From lukas at voellmy.com Wed Jan 3 00:26:30 2007 From: lukas at voellmy.com (Lukas Voellmy) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 00:26:30 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Question while installing Spambayes Message-ID: <000801c72ec5$7c84ee30$2101a8c0@oemjc0mv2zp4gj> Hello out there, first of all my greetings an best wishes for the new year. A friend of me recommended to install SpamBayes, what I do rigth now. Thanks for this service. While installing the sb_service I noticed the attached error (1063) and of course later couldn't find the servise in the list. What can be done? An other question, wich may be trivial for you is this: You write in the "readme": Step2: Setup your mail client: You need to set your mail client to receive mail from localhost rather than your mail server. Shall I enter "localhost" istead of the popservername (eg. "pop.voellmy.com)? Thanks for your advises and have a good time sincer from Switzerland Lukas -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: sb_service error 1063.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 54715 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070103/7e17fb26/attachment-0001.jpg From kgulbran at ft.newyorklife.com Wed Jan 3 03:43:37 2007 From: kgulbran at ft.newyorklife.com (Kris Gulbran) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 18:43:37 -0800 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes configuration window Message-ID: <000001c72ee0$f8652a40$2301a8c0@KRIS> Hello, We've used SpamBayes for years. All of a sudden we've had a glitch, tho. So I uninstalled it & reinstalled it - but for some reason, when I open Outlook again, the Configuration Window doesn't automatically run, and the SpamBayes tool bar isn't showing up in Outlook either. Can you help please? Thank you, Connie Ramsey >From the Offices of Kris Gulbran, CLU Financial Services Professional New York Life Insurance Company 11400 SE 8th St #300 Bellevue, WA 98004 local direct) 425-462-4893 toll-free direct) 866-462-4884 fax) 425-462-5250 If you do not wish to receive email communications from New York Life, please reply to this email, using the words "Opt out" in the subject line. Please copy email optout at newyorklife.com New York Life Insurance Company, 51 Madison Ave, New York, NY 10010 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070102/72143212/attachment.htm From soporte04 at syskey.com.ar Wed Jan 3 16:39:20 2007 From: soporte04 at syskey.com.ar (Soporte 04) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 12:39:20 -0300 Subject: [Spambayes] Cristian from Argentina Message-ID: <000201c72f4d$57946a00$1700a8c0@04cristian> Hello Friend. Spambayes works very well with spanish mails. Very thanks Cristian G?mez from Argentina. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.3/614 - Release Date: 02/01/2007 14:58 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070103/1e8c0670/attachment.html From kgilmore at cpservices.net Wed Jan 3 16:32:15 2007 From: kgilmore at cpservices.net (Kim Gilmore) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 10:32:15 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] I deleted the spam folder Message-ID: <002a01c72f4c$5c1098c0$b993a8c0@cpservices.net> I deleted the junk e-mail and junk suspect folders on accident and now need to get them back and have spam directed into them. How do I do this? I am confused. Thanks, Kimberly Gilmore Property Manager 536 N Monroe Street Tallahassee, FL 32301 850-205-9017 850-402-9001 (Fax) From jsp at PKC.com Wed Jan 3 17:15:42 2007 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 11:15:42 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] I deleted the spam folder In-Reply-To: <002a01c72f4c$5c1098c0$b993a8c0@cpservices.net> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F904FAD7F0@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Please see http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#help-i-deleted-the-unsure-spam -folder. -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Kim Gilmore Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 10:32 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] I deleted the spam folder I deleted the junk e-mail and junk suspect folders on accident and now need to get them back and have spam directed into them. How do I do this? I am confused. Thanks, Kimberly Gilmore Property Manager 536 N Monroe Street Tallahassee, FL 32301 850-205-9017 850-402-9001 (Fax) _______________________________________________ SpamBayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From Gary at doctorgary.net Wed Jan 3 17:23:41 2007 From: Gary at doctorgary.net (Gary Smith) Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 11:23:41 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Multiple servers - two will not filter Message-ID: <459B923D.26809.F131097@Gary.doctorgary.net> Hi, I have four pop email addresses and am using Pegasus. I have been using two of the servers with Spambayes and it has been perfect since last May. Today I got my first spam on one account which I never post with. I tried to add this & the pop GMail to the list of servrers & ports in the spambayes configration but I can not get the two new servers to work with spambayes. The only way I can get mail with it is to have it as port 110 in Pegasus and when I change the port in spambayes to reflect 110, spambayes is not picking up those emails. Here is what I have from the spambayes configuration screen; Bozung.net,mailhost.chi.ameritech.net,mailhost.tvcconnect.net,pop.gmai l.com 110,111,112,113 Bozung.net and mailhost.chi.ameritech.net are going through spambayes just fine. mailhost.tvcconnect.net and pop.gmail.com will not pass through spambayes and I get the message: "15: Peer connect failure (the host has refused the connection).". tvcconnect only works when I have the port in Pegasus set at 110 and getting Gmail in Pegasus requires I use port 995. If I set tvcconnect at 110 & gmail at 995 , they will not filter in spambayes even when I set them in spambayes as the only ones using those ports. Selecting any other port number for them in both Spambayes and pegasus gives me the above peer connect error message. Any suggestions why these last two are proving difficult but the first two filter perfectly? Thanks, Gary From pgilmore at fpc-stillwater.org Wed Jan 3 19:39:32 2007 From: pgilmore at fpc-stillwater.org (Rev. Paul E. gilmore) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 12:39:32 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] multiple emails Message-ID: <000a01c72f66$85dc5e90$0b00000a@fpc.local> Hello, I have windows xp pro, outlook 2002, and I am not sure what version of spambayes I have. My problem is this. My ISP doesn't allow use to leave mail on the server for X amount of days. If we choose this option, it just keeps sending me the same email continuously.over and over. When your program tags an email as spam and moves it to one of the boxes, it leaves a copy of it at my ISP and I continue to receive that same email.all day long. Until I go out to my ISP's webmail and manually delete it. Am I doing something wrong.how can I get your program to not leave a copy on the server. Thank Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070103/b52c1ec7/attachment.htm From jsp at PKC.com Wed Jan 3 21:03:23 2007 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 15:03:23 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] multiple emails In-Reply-To: <000a01c72f66$85dc5e90$0b00000a@fpc.local> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F904F0CC29@PKCVT01.pkc.com> This is probably due to how you have Outlook set up. In Outlook 2003 (maybe 2002 as well), there's an "E-mail Accounts..." item on the Tools menu that fires up a wizard. If I choose to "View or change existing e-mail accounts", select a POP account, click "Change...", and click "More Settings...", and then click the "Advanced" tab, there's a checkbox labeled "Leave a copy of messages on the server". ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Rev. Paul E. gilmore Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 1:40 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] multiple emails Hello, I have windows xp pro, outlook 2002, and I am not sure what version of spambayes I have. My problem is this. My ISP doesn't allow use to leave mail on the server for X amount of days. If we choose this option, it just keeps sending me the same email continuously...over and over. When your program tags an email as spam and moves it to one of the boxes, it leaves a copy of it at my ISP and I continue to receive that same email...all day long. Until I go out to my ISP's webmail and manually delete it. Am I doing something wrong...how can I get your program to not leave a copy on the server. Thank Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Nona -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070103/514b73bd/attachment.html From Rich at RBarger.com Thu Jan 4 01:31:23 2007 From: Rich at RBarger.com (Richard B Barger ABC APR) Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 18:31:23 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Mail Delivery(failure travel@customercare.expedia.com) References: <20070103230128.2536.qmail@web84005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <459C4ADB.F61B7A31@RBarger.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070103/eba0e8ea/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Sam On 1 Jan 2007, at 21:09, skip at pobox.com wrote: > > george> I am still waiting for reply on why I have to reboot my > OS X if > george> I shut down the OS X version of spambayes, and want to > restart > george> spambayes. > > It's not clear what OS X version of SpamBayes you are referring to > or what > SpamBayes application(s) you use. I sort of suspect it's the one > packaged > by Sam Thorne and mentioned here: > > http://entrian.com/sbwiki/MacOSXPackage > > but I'm not certain. If so, you might ask Sam if he knows what's > going on. > Also, the version references on that page are to 1.0rc1 (May > 2004). That's > kind of ancient. The current stable release is 1.0.4 and 1.1 is in > alpha > test. > > george> Please inform if my questions are not clear & I will > try to > george> phrase them such that I can receive a solution, to what > I think > george> is a simple question. > > Simple questions don't always have simple answers. In this case, I > suspect > few people use the Mac OSX package you refer to. I use a Mac and just > install from source. > > Skip > From dave at boost-consulting.com Thu Jan 4 18:45:31 2007 From: dave at boost-consulting.com (David Abrahams) Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 12:45:31 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] date for new release to handle image spam? References: <61957B071FF421419E567A28A45C7FE505DFE384@mailbox.nameconnector.com> <17789.50484.549440.769231@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <87ps9un0sk.fsf@valverde.peloton> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: resigned.gif Type: image/gif Size: 7884 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070104/10b769e8/attachment.gif From bill.hely at helyholdings.com Thu Jan 4 23:26:30 2007 From: bill.hely at helyholdings.com (Bill Hely) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 08:26:30 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] A fix for image spam??? Message-ID: As a long-time SpamBayes user who finds that SpamBayes seems to be relatively helpless against image spam, I'm looking for informed comment on the following, received from Sunbelt Software: ????? Start Quote ????? Does your Antispam solution catch Image Spam? Ninja Does! Rather than using possibly unpredictable heuristics or computationally expensive optical character recognition, Ninja uses fingerprinting algorithms that generate identities from a single piece of content. Leveraging the power of the Cloudmark engine, fingerprinting algorithms offer the most efficient and robust Image Spam protection to date! Stop Image Spam today, with this free 30 day Messaging Ninja for Exchange trial: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja-Download.cf m ????? End Quote ????? Can SpamBayes ever conquer image spam to ant substantial degree? TIA - Bill -- We take security very seriously. All outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. To boost YOUR security visit The Hacker's Nightmare: http://HackersNightmare.com "How to keep hackers, worms and other germs out of your PC." Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.4/615 - Release Date: 3/01/2007 1:34 PM From john_jamal04 at yahoo.com Fri Jan 5 00:02:29 2007 From: john_jamal04 at yahoo.com (John Jamal) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 15:02:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spambayes] New Year's Part Time Job Offer For You!!! Message-ID: <395328.17869.qm@web59111.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Dear Sir/Madam, H & S International Limited is a UK textile company.We produce and distribute clothing materials such as batiks,assorted fabrics and traditional costume worldwide. We have reached big sales volume of textile materials in the Europe and now are trying to penetrate the US market. Quite soon we will establish representative offices or authorized sales centers in the US and therefore we are currently looking for people who will assist us in establishing a new distribution network there. The fact is that despite the US market is new for us we already have regular clients also speaks for itself. WHAT YOU NEED TO DO FOR US? The international money transfer tax for legal entities (companies) in UK is 25%, whereas for the individual it is only 7%.There is no sense for us to work this way, while tax for international money transfer made by a private individual is 7% .That's why we need you! We need agents to receive payment for our textiles( in money orders,cheque or bank wire transfers) and to resend the money to us via Money Gram or Western Union Money Transfer.This way we will save money because of tax decreasing. JOB DESCRIPTION? 1. Recieve payment from Clients 2. Cash Payments at your Bank 3. Deduct 10% which will be your percentage/pay on Payment processed. 4. Forward balance afer deduction of percentage/pay to any of the offices you will be contacted to send payment to(Payment is to forwarded either by Money Gram or Western Union Money Transfer). HOW MUCH WILL YOU EARN? 10% from each operation! For instance: you receive 7000 USD via cheques or money orders on our behalf. You will cash the money and keep $700 (10% from $7000) for yourself! At the beginning your commission will equal 10%, though later it will increase up to 15%! . ADVANTAGES You do not have to go out as you will work as an independent contractor right from your home office. Your job is absolutely legal. You can earn up to $3000-$4000 monthly depending on time you will spend for this job. You do not need any capital to start.You can do the work easily without leaving or affecting your present job.The employees who make efforts and work hard have a strong possibility to become managers. Anyway our employees never leave us. 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Please send your resume so that I can let you know more details as regards the job, Please get back to me as soon as you can. Thanks for your anticipated action.And we hope to hear back from you. Very Respectfully, Mr. John Jamal Co-ordinator Desk, H & S International Limited UK OFFICE ACTEXO TEXTILES LIMITED Wimbledon 4x4, Bushey Road, Raynes Park London sw20 8bp __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070104/b4683b51/attachment.htm From amedee at amedee.be Fri Jan 5 00:25:00 2007 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 00:25:00 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] A fix for image spam??? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1167953100.13028.8.camel@localhost> Op vrijdag 05-01-2007 om 08:26 uur [tijdzone +1000], schreef Bill Hely: > As a long-time SpamBayes user who finds that SpamBayes seems to > be relatively helpless against image spam, I'm looking for > informed comment on the following, received from Sunbelt > Software: > > Start Quote > > Does your Antispam solution catch Image Spam? Ninja Does! > > Rather than using possibly unpredictable heuristics or > computationally expensive optical character recognition, Ninja > uses fingerprinting algorithms that generate identities from a > single piece of content. Leveraging the power of the Cloudmark > engine, fingerprinting algorithms offer the most efficient and > robust Image Spam protection to date! > > Stop Image Spam today, with this free 30 day Messaging Ninja for > Exchange trial: > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja-Download.cf > m When I read how Cloudmark fingerprinting works, I get the impression it does the same as most bayes-based spamfilters, only on a much larger scale. Anyway, it's for Exchange (mailservers), and Spambayes isn't: it is for the end user with his individual mail client. > Can SpamBayes ever conquer image spam to ant substantial degree? It already does that for me. Doesn't it do that for you? What version do you use? -- Amedee Van Gasse amedee at amedee.be From bishop at aeroprise.com Fri Jan 5 03:37:05 2007 From: bishop at aeroprise.com (Peter Bishop) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 18:37:05 -0800 Subject: [Spambayes] A fix for image spam??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I am not finding problems from image spam, either. SpamBayes seems to do a reasonable job of identifying it. Like any spam, however, you have to train SpamBayes, so the first few from a new source will require training, but by then, it is able to do a good job of getting rid of it. Peter Bishop -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces+bishop=aeroprise.com at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces+bishop=aeroprise.com at python.org] On Behalf Of Bill Hely Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 2:27 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] A fix for image spam??? As a long-time SpamBayes user who finds that SpamBayes seems to be relatively helpless against image spam, I'm looking for informed comment on the following, received from Sunbelt Software:  Start Quote  Does your Antispam solution catch Image Spam? Ninja Does! Rather than using possibly unpredictable heuristics or computationally expensive optical character recognition, Ninja uses fingerprinting algorithms that generate identities from a single piece of content. Leveraging the power of the Cloudmark engine, fingerprinting algorithms offer the most efficient and robust Image Spam protection to date! Stop Image Spam today, with this free 30 day Messaging Ninja for Exchange trial: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja-Download.cf m  End Quote  Can SpamBayes ever conquer image spam to ant substantial degree? TIA - Bill -- We take security very seriously. All outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. To boost YOUR security visit The Hacker's Nightmare: http://HackersNightmare.com "How to keep hackers, worms and other germs out of your PC." Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.4/615 - Release Date: 3/01/2007 1:34 PM From bill.hely at helyholdings.com Fri Jan 5 06:21:34 2007 From: bill.hely at helyholdings.com (Bill Hely) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 15:21:34 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] A fix for image spam??? Message-ID: > Anyway, it's for Exchange (mailservers), and Spambayes isn't: > it is for the end user with his individual mail client. Yes, I understand that. My point was that some vendors are specifically claiming good success with image spam, whereas my experience is that SpamBayes doesn't handle it too well. > It already does that for me. Doesn't it do that for you? There's one particular type of image spam I get hundreds of every month. It's an image promo for an investment stock. The specific stock promoted changes almost daily. The image is always followed by a large amount of non-spam-type text on various subjects, which is apparently what fools SpamBayes. It catches a few of these, but misses an awful lot, and (subjectively) doesn't seem to be improving. More often than not these messages get rated at 0%. I have a stock of these spam messages if anyone wants to look at them. > What version do you use? I've been using the Outlook plug-in for years. Been on v1.0.4 since not long after it was released. TIA - Bill > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Amedee Van Gasse > Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 9:25 AM > Cc: spambayes at python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] A fix for image spam??? > > > > Op vrijdag 05-01-2007 om 08:26 uur [tijdzone +1000], schreef > Bill Hely: > > As a long-time SpamBayes user who finds that SpamBayes seems to > > be relatively helpless against image spam, I'm looking for > > informed comment on the following, received from Sunbelt > > Software: > > > > Start Quote > > > > Does your Antispam solution catch Image Spam? Ninja Does! > > > > Rather than using possibly unpredictable heuristics or > > computationally expensive optical character recognition, Ninja > > uses fingerprinting algorithms that generate identities from a > > single piece of content. Leveraging the power of the Cloudmark > > engine, fingerprinting algorithms offer the most efficient and > > robust Image Spam protection to date! > > > > Stop Image Spam today, with this free 30 day Messaging Ninja for > > Exchange trial: > > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja-Download.cf > > m > > When I read how Cloudmark fingerprinting works, I get the > impression it > does the same as most bayes-based spamfilters, only on a much larger > scale. > Anyway, it's for Exchange (mailservers), and Spambayes isn't: > it is for > the end user with his individual mail client. > > > Can SpamBayes ever conquer image spam to ant substantial degree? > > It already does that for me. Doesn't it do that for you? What > version do > you use? > > -- > Amedee Van Gasse > amedee at amedee.be -- We take security very seriously. All outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. To boost YOUR security visit The Hacker's Nightmare: http://HackersNightmare.com "How to keep hackers, worms and other germs out of your PC." Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.4/615 - Release Date: 3/01/2007 1:34 PM From sethg at goodmanassociates.com Fri Jan 5 10:57:37 2007 From: sethg at goodmanassociates.com (Seth Goodman) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 03:57:37 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] date for new release to handle image spam? In-Reply-To: <87ps9un0sk.fsf@valverde.peloton> Message-ID: David Abrahams wrote on Thursday, January 04, 2007 11:46 AM -0600: > I've got the OCR stuff enabled on Unix. It definitely works some of > the time; in X-SpamBayes-Evidence I can see spam words picked out of > the image that don't appear elsewhere in the message. There is a > category of those stock advertisements that seems to be getting past > the OCR completely; one example is enclosed. I wish I knew what to do > to get around that problem. Image spam is gradually moving in the direction of a captcha: images that people can identify but computers can't. How far they can go before it becomes so annoying that no one will look at it is anyone's guess. As long as people can design effective captcha's, it will be possible to construct image spam that OCR will not detect. -- Seth Goodman From dave at boost-consulting.com Fri Jan 5 16:21:50 2007 From: dave at boost-consulting.com (David Abrahams) Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 10:21:50 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] date for new release to handle image spam? References: <87ps9un0sk.fsf@valverde.peloton> Message-ID: <87vejlebxt.fsf@valverde.peloton> "Seth Goodman" writes: > David Abrahams wrote on Thursday, January 04, 2007 11:46 AM -0600: > >> I've got the OCR stuff enabled on Unix. It definitely works some of >> the time; in X-SpamBayes-Evidence I can see spam words picked out of >> the image that don't appear elsewhere in the message. There is a >> category of those stock advertisements that seems to be getting past >> the OCR completely; one example is enclosed. I wish I knew what to do >> to get around that problem. > > Image spam is gradually moving in the direction of a captcha: images > that people can identify but computers can't. How far they can go > before it becomes so annoying that no one will look at it is anyone's > guess. As long as people can design effective captcha's, it will be > possible to construct image spam that OCR will not detect. Yes, I understand the principle. Of course, the effectiveness of captchas depends on the ineffectiveness of OCR. On the other hand, most OCR is built to deal with reasonably legible text, so we may need spam-specific OCR tools. -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting www.boost-consulting.com From damian at architech.co.uk Fri Jan 5 19:07:38 2007 From: damian at architech.co.uk (Damian Bree) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 18:07:38 -0000 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook only partially working. Message-ID: <000001c730f4$6258d1d0$1f10a8c0@breeday.local> Hello, and Happy New Year. I've been using SpamBayes for several years and think its great. Just before Christmas I started to notice that some e-mails do not get moved to my Spam Junk folder when I use the 'Delete as Spam' button. When I click on the 'SpamBayes' button on my toolbar to access the SpamBayes manager nothing happens. I believe SpamBayes loads and works as incoming Spam is still being sent to my Junk e-mail folder, but I'm not sure whether new spam I train is being learned by SpamBayes, and certainly is not being moved to the junk folder when I delete it as spam. I've read the "Troubleshooting the SpamBayes Outlook Addin" document. I've also looked in the Data directory. The 'default_bayes_database.db' and 'default_message_database.db' files both have modified dates of 22 November 06. My START menu -> All Programmes -> SpamBayes menu shows a generic windows icon for the 'SpamBayes Tray Icon' (located at C:\Programme Files\SpamBayes\bin ). Should there be a *.exe file here? Regards Damian Bree Bree Day Partnership, Chartered Architects & Urban Designers ( Tel: 020 8744 4440 4 Fax: 020 8744 4444 + The Old Chapel, 1 Holly Road, Twickenham, TW1 4EA ? www.architech.co.uk This message and any attachments are confidential to the ordinary user of the e-mail address to which it was addressed. 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Thanks, Mike From bill.hely at helyholdings.com Sat Jan 6 07:17:03 2007 From: bill.hely at helyholdings.com (Bill Hely) Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 16:17:03 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] Help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Charlotte, if you mean the SpamBayes Outlook plug-in, uninstall in the usual way: Control Panel -> Add or Remove Programs -> SpamBayes n.n.n This does not remove the training database, so if you want complete removal you'll have to go in and delete the folders/files left behind. But you'd be much better off getting it working. What's the problem? Do you have "Delete As Spam" and "SpamBayes" buttons on the Outlook toolbar? Configuration is under the "SpamBayes" button. If having trouble please ask specific questions so we know where to point you. Sometimes it's better to uninstall and start again. At the first start of Outlook after a clean SpamBayes installation, SpamBayes should automatically enter a configuration phase. But you can still configure it through the button as mentioned above. - Bill -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Chalotte Berg-Smith Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 5:34 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Help I have tried and tried to reconfigure and it is not working. How do I unistall this plug in? Or else how do reconfigure? Charlotte Smith Vice President Closet Factory 22 Hampshire Drive Hudson, NH 03051 603-882-3888 603-881-7962 fax HYPERLINK "mailto:c.smith at closetfactoryboston.com"c.smith at closetfactorybost on.com -- We take security very seriously. All outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. To boost YOUR security visit The Hacker's Nightmare: http://HackersNightmare.com "How to keep hackers, worms and other germs out of your PC." Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.5/616 - Release Date: 4/01/2007 1:34 PM -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070106/c62595b6/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 2130 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070106/c62595b6/attachment.jpe From sethg at goodmanassociates.com Sat Jan 6 07:58:29 2007 From: sethg at goodmanassociates.com (Seth Goodman) Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 00:58:29 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] date for new release to handle image spam? In-Reply-To: <87vejlebxt.fsf@valverde.peloton> Message-ID: David Abrahams wrote on Friday, January 05, 2007 9:22 AM -0600: > "Seth Goodman" writes: > > > Image spam is gradually moving in the direction of a captcha: > > images that people can identify but computers can't. How far they > > can go before it becomes so annoying that no one will look at it is > > anyone's guess. As long as people can design effective captcha's, > > it will be possible to construct image spam that OCR will not > > detect. > > Yes, I understand the principle. Of course, the effectiveness of > captchas depends on the ineffectiveness of OCR. On the other hand, > most OCR is built to deal with reasonably legible text, so we may need > spam-specific OCR tools. The human eye and brain are amazing image analyzers. OCR is only ineffective when compared to them. While our visual sense can be fooled, i.e. "optical illusions", it's power is that it is robust to so many forms of noise and image degradation. You don't need training to find the text in a captcha. We are told it's there and we all just see it. OCR programs use a variety of mathematical methods plus heuristics and they require care and feeding to function at all. This is why computers will remain behind humans in processing images for the foreseeable future. Make OCR as "spam-specific" as you like, but it will require tweaking each time spammers change to an unusual font, background noise or text distortion. I don't want to seem morose about this, but I don't believe it's a battle we can ultimately win. It can still assist Spambayes classifying messages with image spam, but it's not a silver bullet. This is really a problem to be solved at the MTA with stricter connection rules. Nonetheless, I suspect that Spambayes could improve by creating more synthetic tokens that describe the image better and taking advantage of serendipitous differences between tokens for image spam and those in each user's ham. I'm not sure what those attributes are, but it probably beats trying to keep up with a quickly evolving captcha. Outlook doesn't help the situation, as it destroys much of the MIME armor that might provide useful spam clues. -- Seth Goodman From amedee at amedee.be Sat Jan 6 12:42:23 2007 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2007 12:42:23 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] A fix for image spam??? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1168083743.8317.15.camel@localhost> Op vrijdag 05-01-2007 om 15:19 uur [tijdzone +1000], schreef Bill Hely: > > Anyway, it's for Exchange (mailservers), and Spambayes isn't: > > it is for the end user with his individual mail client. > > Yes, I understand that. My point was that some vendors are > specifically claiming good success with image spam, whereas my > experience is that SpamBayes doesn't handle it too well. > > > It already does that for me. Doesn't it do that for you? > > There's one particular type of image spam I get hundreds of every > month. It's an image promo for an investment stock. The specific > stock promoted changes almost daily. The image is always followed > by a large amount of non-spam-type text on various subjects, > which is apparently what fools SpamBayes. It catches a few of > these, but misses an awful lot, and (subjectively) doesn't seem > to be improving. More often than not these messages get rated at > 0%. > > I have a stock of these spam messages if anyone wants to look at > them. SpamBayes catches all of those on my box. > > What version do you use? > > I've been using the Outlook plug-in for years. Been on v1.0.4 > since not long after it was released. You are using an ancient version. I am using version 1.1a3 as a procmail filter on Linux. Version 1.1a3 also exists as a Windows version (including Outlook pluging). PS: please reply to the list. -- Amedee Van Gasse amedee at amedee.be From Gary at doctorgary.net Sun Jan 7 06:12:32 2007 From: Gary at doctorgary.net (Gary Smith) Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 00:12:32 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Multiple servers - two will not filter In-Reply-To: <459B923D.26809.F131097@Gary.doctorgary.net> References: <459B923D.26809.F131097@Gary.doctorgary.net> Message-ID: <45A03AF0.31683.11840C0@Gary.doctorgary.net> Anyone have a solution for me? Thanks > Hi, > > I have four pop email addresses and am using Pegasus. I have been > using two of the servers with Spambayes and it has been perfect since > last May. Today I got my first spam on one account which I never post > with. I tried to add this & the pop GMail to the list of servrers & > ports in the spambayes configration but I can not get the two new > servers to work with spambayes. > > The only way I can get mail with it is to have it as port 110 in > Pegasus and when I change the port in spambayes to reflect 110, > spambayes is not picking up those emails. > > Here is what I have from the spambayes configuration screen; > > Bozung.net,mailhost.chi.ameritech.net,mailhost.tvcconnect.net,pop.gmai > l.com > > 110,111,112,113 > > Bozung.net and mailhost.chi.ameritech.net are going through spambayes > just fine. > > mailhost.tvcconnect.net and pop.gmail.com will not pass through > spambayes and I get the message: > "15: Peer connect failure (the host has refused the > connection).". > > tvcconnect only works when I have the port in Pegasus set at 110 and > getting Gmail in Pegasus requires I use port 995. > > If I set tvcconnect at 110 & gmail at 995 , they will not filter in > spambayes even when I set them in spambayes as the only ones using > those ports. > > Selecting any other port number for them in both Spambayes and > pegasus gives me the above peer connect error message. > > Any suggestions why these last two are proving difficult but the first > two filter perfectly? > > Thanks, > > Gary > _______________________________________________ > SpamBayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > From skip at pobox.com Sun Jan 7 14:28:02 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 07:28:02 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Multiple servers - two will not filter In-Reply-To: <45A03AF0.31683.11840C0@Gary.doctorgary.net> References: <459B923D.26809.F131097@Gary.doctorgary.net> <45A03AF0.31683.11840C0@Gary.doctorgary.net> Message-ID: <17824.62818.618572.459260@montanaro.dyndns.org> Gary> Anyone have a solution for me? Nothing obvious comes to mind. Are all four setups distinct (different local ports for example)? Have you contacted the ISPs for the failing setups to see if they see anything in the logfiles at their end? Skip From NBXAHFHVPQUE at spammotel.com Sun Jan 7 15:55:19 2007 From: NBXAHFHVPQUE at spammotel.com (chermesh) Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 06:55:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes categorizes each and every email as either Junk or Suspect Message-ID: <8204960.post@talk.nabble.com> Hi, I've installed spambayes (ver. 1.0.4) on my old pc (win98' MS Outlook 2002). I have experienced some problems with this system, and as a result, installed and reinstalled MS Office over and over again. This required reinstallations of spambayes, which I've use almost ever since it was developed. Now, whenever I start Outlook, SB checkes one of my two accounts (I expect it to check both) and almost all messages get treated as either Junk mail or Junk Suspects. What's wrong? Ran -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/spambayes-categorizes-each-and-every-email-as-either-Junk-or-Suspect-tf2934728.html#a8204960 Sent from the Python - spambayes mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From rancherm at bgu.ac.il Sun Jan 7 15:50:16 2007 From: rancherm at bgu.ac.il (Ran Chermesh) Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 16:50:16 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes categorizes each and every email as either Junk or Suspect Message-ID: <002701c7326b$25540020$97c715ac@pc> Hi, I've installed spambayes (ver. 1.0.4) on my old pc (win98' MS Outlook 2002). I have experienced some problems with this system, and as a result, installed and reinstalled MS Office over and over again. This required reinstallations of spambayes, which I've use almost ever since it was developed. Now, whenever I start Outlook, SB checkes one of my two accounts (I expect it to check both) and almost all messages get treated as either Junk mail or Junk Suspects. What's wrong? 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070107/b0df6359/attachment.htm From skip at pobox.com Sun Jan 7 18:56:38 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 11:56:38 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes categorizes each and every email as either Junk or Suspect In-Reply-To: <8204960.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <8204960.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <17825.13398.561072.560451@montanaro.dyndns.org> Ran> Now, whenever I start Outlook, SB checkes one of my two accounts (I Ran> expect it to check both) and almost all messages get treated as Ran> either Junk mail or Junk Suspects. Ran> What's wrong? Hard to say. You didn't give any specific examples. If you post the clues from a specific message which found to be misclassified perhaps we can help. Have you tried getting rid of your existing training database and starting from scratch? Skip From sethg at goodmanassociates.com Sun Jan 7 20:49:52 2007 From: sethg at goodmanassociates.com (Seth Goodman) Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 13:49:52 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes categorizes each and every email as either Junk or Suspect In-Reply-To: <8204960.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: Chermesh wrote on Sunday, January 07, 2007 8:55 AM -0600: > Now, whenever I start Outlook, SB checkes one of my two accounts > (I expect it to check both) and almost all messages get treated > as either Junk mail or Junk Suspects. > > What's wrong? Spambayes doesn't know about or check individual mail accounts. It watches for new messages in folders that you tell it. If Spambayes is not seeing messages from one or more mail accounts, it could be that the mail for those accounts is delivered (or moved by a rule) to a folder that you did not configure Spambayes to watch. -- Seth Goodman From damian at architech.co.uk Mon Jan 8 11:32:03 2007 From: damian at architech.co.uk (Damian Bree) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 10:32:03 -0000 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook only partially working - Addendum Message-ID: <000001c73310$3d0ca280$1f10a8c0@breeday.local> Further to my e-mail below. I have today discovered that the 'Recover from Spam' button is NOT available in my 'Junk Unsure' & 'Junk e-mail' (my equivilent Unsure & Spam folders). I cannot locate the Log file Regards Damian Bree _____ From: Damian Bree [mailto:damian at architech.co.uk] Sent: 05 January 2007 18:08 To: 'spambayes at python.org' Subject: Outlook only partially working. Hello, and Happy New Year. I've been using SpamBayes for several years and think its great. Just before Christmas I started to notice that some e-mails do not get moved to my Spam Junk folder when I use the 'Delete as Spam' button. When I click on the 'SpamBayes' button on my toolbar to access the SpamBayes manager nothing happens. I believe SpamBayes loads and works as incoming Spam is still being sent to my Junk e-mail folder, but I'm not sure whether new spam I train is being learned by SpamBayes, and certainly is not being moved to the junk folder when I delete it as spam. I've read the "Troubleshooting the SpamBayes Outlook Addin" document. I've also looked in the Data directory. The 'default_bayes_database.db' and 'default_message_database.db' files both have modified dates of 22 November 06. My START menu -> All Programmes -> SpamBayes menu shows a generic windows icon for the 'SpamBayes Tray Icon' (located at C:\Programme Files\SpamBayes\bin ). Should there be a *.exe file here? 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I am running on Window XP 2002, service pack 2 SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 1.0.4 Terry Madden Associate 320 Main St. Irwin, PA 15642 724-864-9500 724-864-9654 fax terrym at jmamail.com www.morrowassociates.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070109/08dbdf6c/attachment.html From deleted at deleted Tue Jan 9 18:18:39 2007 From: deleted at deleted Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 11:18:39 -0600 Subject: deleted Message-ID: MESSAGE DELETED From haleh at mithras.org Wed Jan 10 09:47:55 2007 From: haleh at mithras.org (Haleh) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 19:47:55 +1100 Subject: [Spambayes] Just to say thanks Message-ID: <002101c73494$0603b960$0301a8c0@zagros> Hi folks. I have been using Spambayes for a couple of years or so now and have been very happy with it. Recently we decided to actually buy an antivirus and found that BitDefender do an integrated product with a spam manager built into. After having evaluated their spam manager for two weeks I am going back to using Spambayes. They claim that their product works based on Bayesian concept but to my experience it doesn't. It takes no notice of the body of the message and works purely on either the sender's address or domain name. That is you can receive the same identical spam message from a hundred different addresses and press that 'Is Spam' button one hundred times and it will not recognize message hundred and one as spam. The same applies to messages it wrongly classifies as spam. You tell it on and on this is not spam and it will again put it in the spam filter. Anyway, I thought you might be pleased to hear that we're back using good old reliable Spambayes. People are always quick to complain about products and services but I thought it might be of value to you to actually hear from a very satisfied and loyal user. Thanks guys for all great work you do and all for free. 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From jsp at PKC.com Wed Jan 10 17:47:35 2007 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 11:47:35 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] multiple emails In-Reply-To: <009901c734d6$6dd4d960$0b00000a@fpc.local> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9051E83D9@PKCVT01.pkc.com> I'm fresh outta clues. Anyone else got a bigger clue bag? P.S. Please "reply to all." ________________________________ From: Rev. Paul E. gilmore [mailto:pgilmore at fpc-stillwater.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 11:43 AM To: Jesse Pelton Subject: RE: [Spambayes] multiple emails That is not it. I have already checked that. If I uninstall your software, it doesn't tag them as spam and they all go through...only once. Once your software is installed, it catches all / most of the spam, but it also leaves a copy of it on my server. Thanks for getting back to me with that suggestion, but that isn't it. HELP... Joe -----Original Message----- From: Jesse Pelton [mailto:jsp at PKC.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 2:03 PM To: Rev. Paul E. gilmore; spambayes at python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] multiple emails This is probably due to how you have Outlook set up. In Outlook 2003 (maybe 2002 as well), there's an "E-mail Accounts..." item on the Tools menu that fires up a wizard. If I choose to "View or change existing e-mail accounts", select a POP account, click "Change...", and click "More Settings...", and then click the "Advanced" tab, there's a checkbox labeled "Leave a copy of messages on the server". ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Rev. Paul E. gilmore Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 1:40 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] multiple emails Hello, I have windows xp pro, outlook 2002, and I am not sure what version of spambayes I have. My problem is this. My ISP doesn't allow use to leave mail on the server for X amount of days. If we choose this option, it just keeps sending me the same email continuously...over and over. When your program tags an email as spam and moves it to one of the boxes, it leaves a copy of it at my ISP and I continue to receive that same email...all day long. Until I go out to my ISP's webmail and manually delete it. Am I doing something wrong...how can I get your program to not leave a copy on the server. Thank Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Installation on Outlook Express is not as simple as it is on Outlook; be sure to read http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#does-spambayes-work-with-outlo ok-express and http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#how-do-i-set-up-spambayes-and- outlook-express. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Dorothy M Ross Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 12:15 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) I am being inundated by spam it's awful my son told me you could help? please help. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If so, I don't use IMAP myself so maybe someone who does can help out. -- Seth Goodman -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org]On Behalf Of Jesse Pelton Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 10:48 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] multiple emails I'm fresh outta clues. Anyone else got a bigger clue bag? P.S. Please "reply to all." ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- From: Rev. Paul E. gilmore [mailto:pgilmore at fpc-stillwater.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 11:43 AM To: Jesse Pelton Subject: RE: [Spambayes] multiple emails That is not it. I have already checked that. If I uninstall your software, it doesn't tag them as spam and they all go through.only once. Once your software is installed, it catches all / most of the spam, but it also leaves a copy of it on my server. Thanks for getting back to me with that suggestion, but that isn't it. HELP. Joe -----Original Message----- From: Jesse Pelton [mailto:jsp at PKC.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 2:03 PM To: Rev. Paul E. gilmore; spambayes at python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] multiple emails This is probably due to how you have Outlook set up. In Outlook 2003 (maybe 2002 as well), there's an "E-mail Accounts..." item on the Tools menu that fires up a wizard. If I choose to "View or change existing e-mail accounts", select a POP account, click "Change...", and click "More Settings...", and then click the "Advanced" tab, there's a checkbox labeled "Leave a copy of messages on the server". ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Rev. Paul E. gilmore Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 1:40 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] multiple emails Hello, I have windows xp pro, outlook 2002, and I am not sure what version of spambayes I have. My problem is this. My ISP doesn't allow use to leave mail on the server for X amount of days. If we choose this option, it just keeps sending me the same email continuously.over and over. When your program tags an email as spam and moves it to one of the boxes, it leaves a copy of it at my ISP and I continue to receive that same email.all day long. Until I go out to my ISP's webmail and manually delete it. Am I doing something wrong.how can I get your program to not leave a copy on the server. Thank Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The missing modules include email.Errors, email.Generator, email.Message, email.Parser, email.Utils, among others. When i run the resulting sb_filter.exe from the dist directory, I get an error saying Traceback (most recent call last): File "sb_filter.py", line 83, in File "spambayes\hammie.pyc", line 4, in File "spambayes\mboxutils.pyc", line 27, in File "mailbox.pyc", line 1294, in File "email\__init__.pyc", line 79, in __getattr__ File "email\message.pyc", line 86, in File "email\message.pyc", line 784, in Message File "email\__init__.pyc", line 79, in __getattr__ ImportError: No module named iterators. Any ideas on how i can fix the exe? Thanks, Manoj Ku. > >/ Anybody had any luck compiling sb_filter.py into an exe on > />/ Win32? I keep seeing these error messages about certain > />/ modules not being found. > / > These don't necessarily matter, depending on what you're doing. You can set > py2exe to ignore them, if you like. > > Have you tested the resulting .exe? Does it work? If not, what happens? > > >/ The following modules > />/ appear to be missing ['MySQLdb', 'bsddb3', 'gdbm', 'psycopg', > />/ 'win32com.shell'] > / > You only need MySQLdb if you want the sb_filter.exe to be able to use MySQl > as a storage option. If you do, then you need to install MySQLdb and py2exe > will find it. If you don't, then this error is harmless. > > You don't need bsddb3 since you're compiling with Python 2.3. py2exe's > modulefinder isn't clever enough to understand that it only gets loaded with > earlier versions of Python. This error is harmless, and you can ignore it, > or set py2exe to ignore it. > > AFAIK gdbm isn't used on Windows. IAC, it's just another storage option > like MySQLdb, so unless you're planning on explicitly using it, again it's > harmless. > > pyscopg is for using Postgre SQL I think (but am not 100%). If I'm right, > then that's just like MySQL, above. > > I don't know what is asking for win32com.shell, but I suspect that it's for > the Options, as, on Windows, the Options code looks for the > bayescustomize.ini file in the Windows Application Data directory, which it > needs pywin32 to find. If you don't have this, I'm pretty sure the code > falls back to the non-Windows behaviour, so again harmless, or you can > install pywin32 and that should let py2exe find it. > > =Tony Meyer From shuffman at nwaccs.com Fri Jan 12 16:06:32 2007 From: shuffman at nwaccs.com (Shaun Huffman) Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 09:06:32 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Word list and White and Black lists!! Message-ID: <000001c7365b$41041960$662810ac@CCSZD7000> Is there a way to add people to white or black list and add words that you want to block or let threw? This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error destroy it immediately. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070112/881b4c50/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 10926 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070112/881b4c50/attachment.jpe From amedee at amedee.be Sat Jan 13 00:49:18 2007 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 00:49:18 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Word list and White and Black lists!! In-Reply-To: <000001c7365b$41041960$662810ac@CCSZD7000> References: <000001c7365b$41041960$662810ac@CCSZD7000> Message-ID: <1168645758.8935.118.camel@localhost> Op vrijdag 12-01-2007 om 09:06 uur [tijdzone -0600], schreef Shaun Huffman: > Is there a way to add people to white or black list and add words that > you want to block or let threw? > > Yes, just keep training those emails as either ham (white list) or spam (black list). Spambayes will learn. By the way, isn't this already answered in the FAQ? http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#why-don-t-you-add-whitelisting-blacklisting-to-spambayes -- Amedee > From brianstrange at blueyonder.co.uk Sat Jan 13 12:50:16 2007 From: brianstrange at blueyonder.co.uk (brianstrange) Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 11:50:16 -0000 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes add in at start up problem Message-ID: <20070113115013.841231E401C@bag.python.org> Hi After installing SpamBayes, on starting Outlook I get the "add in failed to initialize" message. 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If this doesn't help, let us know. -- Seth Goodman > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] > Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 11:43 PM > To: spambayes at python.org > Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Problems > > SpamBayes Configuration Wizard constantly comes up with, " ..... > training on your good and spam messages." > > Results: > Scroring: Completed training with 0 spam and 255 good messages. > > This procedure constantly comes up and no spam appears to be filtered. > In order tp > keep accumulating spam, I must DELETE manually. > > HELP > > Jack Bloomberg << File: ATT00141.txt >> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thu, 11 Jan 2007 13:18:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 6712 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Jan 2007 18:18:09 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: dsepxQwVM1mPMWl_0.TGuphOQl84gXRuH9dg5W2v Received: from [71.221.142.180] by web803.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 10:18:09 PST X-RocketYMMF: charmainebroo Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 10:18:09 -0800 (PST) From: Charmaine Brooks Reply-To: charmaine.brooks at imergeconsult.com Subject: Fwd: FW: SunTrust Records Management Engagement To: Paula Lederman , Don Post MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-1839301692-1168539489=:6063" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <879993.6063.qm at web803.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Paula, Below is the request of information and I have attached a transcript of the conversation Don and I had with SunTrust. They are a FileNet shop and will be deploying FileNet's Records Manager enteprisewide. They currently use Zasio's Versatile for physical records, but would like to phase it out in the next two years. Phase I would include: - Strategy and Roadmap for Enterprise Records Management within the FileNet framework - Recommendations for Implementing Policy (currently in development) - Develop Taxonomy/Classification for Electronic Records - Process for maintaining the Taxonomy/Classification Scheme - Implementaion Plan for RollOut of FileNet RM enterprise wide - Recommendations for Versatile Phase Out The presentation is to cover: RM Experience in Similar Projects Approach Projected Timelines Estimated Costs (Ballpark) I am attending FileNet's training for Records Manager at the end of the month and I am familiar with Versatile. They will be rolling FileNet and RM out in phases, so we would cover one area at a time. The first would probably be Mortgage the primary user of FileNet, currently being rolled out. Take a look at these and let me know what your thoughts are. If you would like to chat about it let me know when is a good time. I will be out of the office for a couple of hours, but in the rest of the day for this and Hewitt. Charmaine Brooks, CRM ERMm (208) 343-1904 --------------------------------- From: williams.cayce [mailto:cayce.Williams at SunTrust.com] Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 12:46 PM To: dpost at imergeconsult.com Subject: RE: SunTrust Records Management Engagement Hi Don, I am heading into training today, and will be out until Monday, so I wanted to follow up by e-mail regarding our Records Management engagement. Included you will find background on our current records management environment along with proposal and presentation components. Please let me know if you have any questions or need clarification on any points. I look forward to working with you in the future and will wait to hear from you regarding dates in Mid January you are available to present your ideas. If you have any questions while I am out, please feel free to contact Carmen Kirk at 404-813-3879. Regards, Cayce Williams SunTrust Enterprise Business Process Services 250 NW Piedmont Avenue, 6th floor Atlanta, GA 30308 Work: 404.813-4859 Email: cayce.williams at suntrust.com Records Management (RM) Background SunTrust does not have a formal, documented RM program. The idea is to establish one that would be based around a strategic RM framework. We plan for the RM program to be headed by our Records Manager with advisement from a committee composed of Information Security, Enterprise Technology Infrastructure, Legal, Compliance, and Risk Management. There is a current Records Manager and a project is in flight which is working to define a policy around RM and is looking at a project completion date of 03/07. There is a records retention schedule maintained by our Corporate Physical Records Manager. Enforcement of the current retention schedule is distributed among LOBs and functions with the exception of physical records housed in our Corporate Physical Records facilities. While the retention schedule has been used for defining electronic records of the same type, we do not consistently apply the same retention schedule to electronic and physical records and hope to begin using electronic as the legal record where possible allowing us to destroy the paper sooner and removing the need to carry the cost of transporting and storing paper. For records stored in our Corporate Physical Records facilities; the LOB will send in their boxes with proper codes indicating the retention period desired. These boxes are managed in a system called Versatile by Zazio. There are occasions where an LOB will identify a problem and inform the centers to hold boxes off schedule. LOBs that maintain records on site have varying procedures. Physical record destruction varies according to the policies, lines of business, and facilities. We have uncovered situations where paper is being kept longer than necessary and suspect that we could be destroying more than we are. There is an overwhelming tendency to err on the side of not destroying documents as a precaution. We own FileNet P8 running on version 3.5.2 and plan to upgrade to 4.0 in 2007. We own and have installed the Records Manager Module but have not deployed it. We plan to use FileNet to manage our physical records along with the images and metadata housed in Filenet repositories. We have not defined our project timelines around completing our RM framework; however, we recognize that the longer we go without it the more costly it will become to retrofit operations in the future. Proposal Components We are looking for the strategic RM framework upon which an enterprise wide RM group can operate. This framework should be defined and documented in such a way to ease the burden of defining new records in the future. We would also like guidelines around record declaration. The RM framework should include all records. We recognize email is such a large and evolving area (particularly in our wealth group) that we expect there will be a multi-faceted approach to managing it. We need to define an indexing scheme for all enterprise records and a method for distributed cataloging and data collection of record types across the LOBs and Functions. This method should minimize time required for enterprise completion while maintaining quality of information gathered. Presentation Components * RM experience in similar projects * Approach * Projected Timelines * Estimated costs --------------------------------- From: williams.cayce Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 11:02 AM To: Cc: Kirk.Carmen.M Subject: SunTrust Records Management Engagement Don, It was a pleasure speaking with you today. I look forward to speaking with soon to flesh out the scope, expectations and next steps. Thanks! Cayce Williams SunTrust Enterprise Business Process Services 250 NW Piedmont Avenue, 6th floor Atlanta, GA 30308 Work: 404.813-4859 Email: cayce.williams at suntrust.com LEGAL DISCLAIMER The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. SunTrust and Seeing beyond money are federally registered service marks of SunTrust Banks, Inc. [ST:XCL]
Paula,
 
Below is the request of information and I have attached a transcript of the conversation Don and I had with SunTrust.
 
They are a FileNet shop and will be deploying FileNet's Records Manager enteprisewide. They currently use Zasio's Versatile for physical records, but would like to phase it out in the next two years.
 
Phase I would include:
- Strategy and Roadmap for Enterprise Records Management within the FileNet
framework
- Recommendations for Implementing Policy (currently in development)
- Develop Taxonomy/Classification for Electronic Records
- Process for maintaining the Taxonomy/Classification Scheme
- Implementaion Plan for RollOut of FileNet RM enterprise wide
- Recommendations for Versatile Phase Out
 
The presentation is to cover:
   RM Experience in Similar Projects
   Approach
   Projected Timelines
   Estimated Costs (Ballpark)
I am attending FileNet's training for Records Manager at the end of the month and I am familiar with Versatile. They will be rolling FileNet and RM out in phases, so we would cover one area at a time. The first would probably be Mortgage the primary user of FileNet, currently being rolled out.
 
Take a look at these and let me know what your thoughts are. If you would like to chat about it let me know when is a good time. I will be out of the office for a couple of hours, but in the rest of the day for this and Hewitt.
 
Charmaine Brooks, CRM ERMm
(208) 343-1904 
 
From: williams.cayce [mailto:cayce.Williams at SunTrust.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 12:46 PM
To: dpost at imergeconsult.com
Subject: > RE: SunTrust Records Management Engagement

Hi Don,

I am heading into training today, and will be out until Monday, so I wanted to follow up by e-mail regarding our Records Management engagement.  Included you will find background on our current records management environment along with proposal and presentation components.  Please let me know if you have any questions or need clarification on any points.  I look forward to working with you in the future and will wait to hear from you regarding dates in Mid January you are available to present your ideas.

If you have any questions while I am out, please feel free to contact Carmen Kirk at 404-813-3879.

Regards,

Cayce Williams
SunTrust Enterprise Business Process Services
250 NW Piedmont Avenue, 6th floor
Atlanta, GA 30308
Work: 404.813-4859 
Email: cayce.williams at suntrust.com PREFIX = U2 />

Records Management (RM) Background

SunTrust does not have a formal, documented RM program.  The idea is to establish one that would be based around a strategic RM framework. We plan for the RM program to be headed by our Records Manager with advisement from a committee composed of Information Security, Enterprise Technology Infrastructure, Legal, Compliance, and Risk Management.
There is a current Records Manager and a project is in flight which is working to define a policy around RM and is looking at a project completion date of 03/07.
There is a records retention schedule maintained by our Corporate Physical Records Manager.  Enforcement of the current retention schedule is distributed among LOBs and functions with the exception of physical records housed in our Corporate Physical Records facilities.
While the retention schedule has been used for defining electronic records of the same type, we do not consistently apply the same retention schedule to electronic and physical records and hope to begin using electronic as the legal record where possible allowing us to destroy the paper sooner and removing the need to carry the cost of transporting and storing paper.
For records stored in our Corporate Physical Records facilities; the LOB will send in their boxes with proper codes indicating the retention period desired.  These boxes are managed in a system called Versatile by Zazio.  There are occasions where an LOB will identify a problem and inform the centers to hold boxes off schedule.  LOBs that maintain records on site have varying procedures.   
Physical record destruction varies according to the policies, lines of business, and facilities.  We have uncovered situations where paper is being kept longer than necessary and suspect that we could be destroying more than we are. There is an overwhelming tendency to err on the side of not destroying documents as a precaution.
We own FileNet P8 running on version 3.5.2 and plan to upgrade to 4.0 in 2007.  We own and have installed the Records Manager Module but have not deployed it.  We plan to use FileNet to manage our physical records along with the images and metadata housed in Filenet repositories. 
We have not defined our project timelines around completing our RM framework; however, we recognize that the longer we go without it the more costly it will become to retrofit operations in the future.

Proposal Components
We are looking for the strategic RM framework upon which an enterprise wide RM group can operate.  This framework should be defined and documented in such a way to ease the burden of defining new records in the future. We would also like guidelines around record declaration.
The RM framework should include all records. We recognize email is such a large and evolving area (particularly in our wealth group) that we expect there will be a multi-faceted approach to managing it.
We need to define an indexing scheme for all enterprise records and a method for distributed cataloging and data collection of record types across the LOBs and Functions.  This method should minimize time required for enterprise completion while maintaining quality of information gathered.
Presentation Components
*         RM experience in similar projects
*         Approach
*         Projected Timelines
*         Estimated costs
From: williams.cayce
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 11:02 AM
To:
Cc: Kirk.Carmen.M
Subject: SunTrust Records Management Engagement
Don,
It was a pleasure speaking with you today. I look forward to speaking with soon to flesh out the scope, expectations and next steps.
Thanks!
Cayce Williams
SunTrust Enterprise Business Process Services
250 NW Piedmont Avenue, 6th floor
Atlanta, GA 30308
Work: 404.813-4859 
Email: cayce.williams at suntrust.com
>
 
 
LEGAL DISCLAIMER
The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer.
 
SunTrust and Seeing beyond money are federally registered service marks of SunTrust Banks, Inc.
[ST:XCL]



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If you used SpamBayes to mark this as spam, then you can just either use the Recover from Spam command or you can move the email to your Inbox. These actions are equivalent to SpamBayes. Remember that SpamBayes does not have the concept of "putting someone safe or unsafe". SpamBayes uses many more clues than simply who the email is from to determine what is spam and what is good (or what SpamBayes calls "ham"). SpamBayes can easily distinguish spam from ham from the same sender. If you have any friends like some of mine, then you might need this. Peter Bishop _____ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Stacey Wight Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 7:52 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] email HELLO, WHAT IF I PUT SOMEONE IN THE SPAM JUNK EMAIL BUT SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN. I CANNOT FIND ANYTHING TO CLICK TO UN-SPAM AND EMAIL. HOW DO I PUT THEM AS SAFE OR UNMARK AS 'NOT SPAM'? THANKS, STACEY -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070116/abaff0f4/attachment.html From bishop at aeroprise.com Tue Jan 16 19:10:54 2007 From: bishop at aeroprise.com (Peter Bishop) Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 10:10:54 -0800 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Clues: Fwd: FW: SunTrust Records ManagementEngagement In-Reply-To: <007c01c735b7$f8581d40$e90857c0$@com> Message-ID: Thomas, Be aware that SpamBayes is designed to work together with other filtering in Outlook. I would look at the standard Spam filtering in Outlook as the possible culprit here. Just because you installed SpamBayes does not turn off regular Outlook spam filtering. I use both in conjunction, but I carefully trained my Outlook spam filter to never delete anything good. My Outlook spam filtering is still catching a little more spam than is left for SpamBayes to catch, even though I have not maintained my Outlook spam filters since installing SpamBayes. It is easy to set up SpamBayes so it acts after Outlook automatic processing. That is the way I like it. I use different spam certain folders for Outlook (Junk E-mail) and SpamBayes (Junk Spam Certain). This helps me distinguish which mechanism decided an email was spam. The fact that you get a Spam score of 0% suggests that SpamBayes is not doing this. Peter Bishop _____ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Mark Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 11:38 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Clues: Fwd: FW: SunTrust Records ManagementEngagement This message too gets put into spam even though it is 0% spam. 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Thu, 11 Jan 2007 13:18:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 6712 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Jan 2007 18:18:09 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: dsepxQwVM1mPMWl_0.TGuphOQl84gXRuH9dg5W2v Received: from [71.221.142.180] by web803.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 10:18:09 PST X-RocketYMMF: charmainebroo Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 10:18:09 -0800 (PST) From: Charmaine Brooks Reply-To: charmaine.brooks at imergeconsult.com Subject: Fwd: FW: SunTrust Records Management Engagement To: Paula Lederman , Don Post MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-1839301692-1168539489=:6063" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <879993.6063.qm at web803.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Paula, Below is the request of information and I have attached a transcript of the conversation Don and I had with SunTrust. They are a FileNet shop and will be deploying FileNet's Records Manager enteprisewide. They currently use Zasio's Versatile for physical records, but would like to phase it out in the next two years. Phase I would include: - Strategy and Roadmap for Enterprise Records Management within the FileNet framework - Recommendations for Implementing Policy (currently in development) - Develop Taxonomy/Classification for Electronic Records - Process for maintaining the Taxonomy/Classification Scheme - Implementaion Plan for RollOut of FileNet RM enterprise wide - Recommendations for Versatile Phase Out The presentation is to cover: RM Experience in Similar Projects Approach Projected Timelines Estimated Costs (Ballpark) I am attending FileNet's training for Records Manager at the end of the month and I am familiar with Versatile. They will be rolling FileNet and RM out in phases, so we would cover one area at a time. The first would probably be Mortgage the primary user of FileNet, currently being rolled out. Take a look at these and let me know what your thoughts are. If you would like to chat about it let me know when is a good time. I will be out of the office for a couple of hours, but in the rest of the day for this and Hewitt. Charmaine Brooks, CRM ERMm (208) 343-1904 --------------------------------- From: williams.cayce [mailto:cayce.Williams at SunTrust.com] Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 12:46 PM To: dpost at imergeconsult.com Subject: RE: SunTrust Records Management Engagement Hi Don, I am heading into training today, and will be out until Monday, so I wanted to follow up by e-mail regarding our Records Management engagement. Included you will find background on our current records management environment along with proposal and presentation components. Please let me know if you have any questions or need clarification on any points. I look forward to working with you in the future and will wait to hear from you regarding dates in Mid January you are available to present your ideas. If you have any questions while I am out, please feel free to contact Carmen Kirk at 404-813-3879. Regards, Cayce Williams SunTrust Enterprise Business Process Services 250 NW Piedmont Avenue, 6th floor Atlanta, GA 30308 Work: 404.813-4859 Email: cayce.williams at suntrust.com Records Management (RM) Background SunTrust does not have a formal, documented RM program. The idea is to establish one that would be based around a strategic RM framework. We plan for the RM program to be headed by our Records Manager with advisement from a committee composed of Information Security, Enterprise Technology Infrastructure, Legal, Compliance, and Risk Management. There is a current Records Manager and a project is in flight which is working to define a policy around RM and is looking at a project completion date of 03/07. There is a records retention schedule maintained by our Corporate Physical Records Manager. Enforcement of the current retention schedule is distributed among LOBs and functions with the exception of physical records housed in our Corporate Physical Records facilities. While the retention schedule has been used for defining electronic records of the same type, we do not consistently apply the same retention schedule to electronic and physical records and hope to begin using electronic as the legal record where possible allowing us to destroy the paper sooner and removing the need to carry the cost of transporting and storing paper. For records stored in our Corporate Physical Records facilities; the LOB will send in their boxes with proper codes indicating the retention period desired. These boxes are managed in a system called Versatile by Zazio. There are occasions where an LOB will identify a problem and inform the centers to hold boxes off schedule. LOBs that maintain records on site have varying procedures. Physical record destruction varies according to the policies, lines of business, and facilities. We have uncovered situations where paper is being kept longer than necessary and suspect that we could be destroying more than we are. There is an overwhelming tendency to err on the side of not destroying documents as a precaution. We own FileNet P8 running on version 3.5.2 and plan to upgrade to 4.0 in 2007. We own and have installed the Records Manager Module but have not deployed it. We plan to use FileNet to manage our physical records along with the images and metadata housed in Filenet repositories. We have not defined our project timelines around completing our RM framework; however, we recognize that the longer we go without it the more costly it will become to retrofit operations in the future. Proposal Components We are looking for the strategic RM framework upon which an enterprise wide RM group can operate. This framework should be defined and documented in such a way to ease the burden of defining new records in the future. We would also like guidelines around record declaration. The RM framework should include all records. We recognize email is such a large and evolving area (particularly in our wealth group) that we expect there will be a multi-faceted approach to managing it. We need to define an indexing scheme for all enterprise records and a method for distributed cataloging and data collection of record types across the LOBs and Functions. This method should minimize time required for enterprise completion while maintaining quality of information gathered. Presentation Components . RM experience in similar projects . Approach . Projected Timelines . Estimated costs --------------------------------- From: williams.cayce Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 11:02 AM To: Cc: Kirk.Carmen.M Subject: SunTrust Records Management Engagement Don, It was a pleasure speaking with you today. I look forward to speaking with soon to flesh out the scope, expectations and next steps. Thanks! Cayce Williams SunTrust Enterprise Business Process Services 250 NW Piedmont Avenue, 6th floor Atlanta, GA 30308 Work: 404.813-4859 Email: cayce.williams at suntrust.com LEGAL DISCLAIMER The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. SunTrust and Seeing beyond money are federally registered service marks of SunTrust Banks, Inc. [ST:XCL]
Paula,
 
Below is the request of information and I have attached a transcript of the conversation Don and I had with SunTrust.
 
They are a FileNet shop and will be deploying FileNet's Records Manager enteprisewide. They currently use Zasio's Versatile for physical records, but would like to phase it out in the next two years.
 
Phase I would include:
- Strategy and Roadmap for Enterprise Records Management within the FileNet
framework
- Recommendations for Implementing Policy (currently in development)
- Develop Taxonomy/Classification for Electronic Records
- Process for maintaining the Taxonomy/Classification Scheme
- Implementaion Plan for RollOut of FileNet RM enterprise wide
- Recommendations for Versatile Phase Out
 
The presentation is to cover:
   RM Experience in Similar Projects
   Approach
   Projected Timelines
   Estimated Costs (Ballpark)
I am attending FileNet's training for Records Manager at the end of the month and I am familiar with Versatile. They will be rolling FileNet and RM out in phases, so we would cover one area at a time. The first would probably be Mortgage the primary user of FileNet, currently being rolled out.
 
Take a look at these and let me know what your thoughts are. If you would like to chat about it let me know when is a good time. I will be out of the office for a couple of hours, but in the rest of the day for this and Hewitt.
 
Charmaine Brooks, CRM ERMm
(208) 343-1904 
 
From: williams.cayce [mailto:cayce.Williams at SunTrust.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 12:46 PM
To: dpost at imergeconsult.com
Subject: RE: SunTrust Records Management Engagement

Hi Don,

I am heading into training today, and will be out until Monday, so I wanted to follow up by e-mail regarding our Records Management engagement.  Included you will find background on our current records management environment along with proposal and presentation components.  Please let me know if you have any questions or need clarification on any points.  I look forward to working with you in the future and will wait to hear from you regarding dates in Mid January you are available to present your ideas.

If you have any questions while I am out, please feel free to contact Carmen Kirk at 404-813-3879.

Regards,

Cayce Williams
SunTrust Enterprise Business Process Services
250 NW Piedmont Avenue, 6th floor
Atlanta, GA 30308
Work: 404.813-4859 
Email: cayce.williams at suntrust.com

Records Management (RM) Background

SunTrust does not have a formal, documented RM program.  The idea is to establish one that would be based around a strategic RM framework. We plan for the RM program to be headed by our Records Manager with advisement from a committee composed of Information Security, Enterprise Technology Infrastructure, Legal, Compliance, and Risk Management.
There is a current Records Manager and a project is in flight which is working to define a policy around RM and is looking at a project completion date of 03/07.
There is a records retention schedule maintained by our Corporate Physical Records Manager.  Enforcement of the current retention schedule is distributed among LOBs and functions with the exception of physical records housed in our Corporate Physical Records facilities.
While the retention schedule has been used for defining electronic records of the same type, we do not consistently apply the same retention schedule to electronic and physical records and hope to begin using electronic as the legal record where possible allowing us to destroy the paper sooner and removing the need to carry the cost of transporting and storing paper.
For records stored in our Corporate Physical Records facilities; the LOB will send in their boxes with proper codes indicating the retention period desired.  These boxes are managed in a system called Versatile by Zazio.  There are occasions where an LOB will identify a problem and inform the centers to hold boxes off schedule.  LOBs that maintain records on site have varying procedures.   
Physical record destruction varies according to the policies, lines of business, and facilities.  We have uncovered situations where paper is being kept longer than necessary and suspect that we could be destroying more than we are. There is an overwhelming tendency to err on the side of not destroying documents as a precaution.
We own FileNet P8 running on version 3.5.2 and plan to upgrade to 4.0 in 2007.  We own and have installed the Records Manager Module but have not deployed it.  We plan to use FileNet to manage our physical records along with the images and metadata housed in Filenet repositories. 
We have not defined our project timelines around completing our RM framework; however, we recognize that the longer we go without it the more costly it will become to retrofit operations in the future.

Proposal Components
We are looking for the strategic RM framework upon which an enterprise wide RM group can operate.  This framework should be defined and documented in such a way to ease the burden of defining new records in the future. We would also like guidelines around record declaration.
The RM framework should include all records. We recognize email is such a large and evolving area (particularly in our wealth group) that we expect there will be a multi-faceted approach to managing it.
We need to define an indexing scheme for all enterprise records and a method for distributed cataloging and data collection of record types across the LOBs and Functions.  This method should minimize time required for enterprise completion while maintaining quality of information gathered.
Presentation Components
.         RM experience in similar projects
.         Approach
.         Projected Timelines
.         Estimated costs
From: williams.cayce
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 11:02 AM
To:
Cc: Kirk.Carmen.M
Subject: SunTrust Records Management Engagement
Don,
It was a pleasure speaking with you today. I look forward to speaking with soon to flesh out the scope, expectations and next steps.
Thanks!
Cayce Williams
SunTrust Enterprise Business Process Services
250 NW Piedmont Avenue, 6th floor
Atlanta, GA 30308
Work: 404.813-4859 
Email: cayce.williams at suntrust.com
 
 
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The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer.
 
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Remove: gvaness at new.rr.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070116/425db96b/attachment.htm From erik at ostbye.no Tue Jan 16 19:23:07 2007 From: erik at ostbye.no (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Erik_=D8stbye?=) Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 19:23:07 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Express Message-ID: <001e01c7399b$6e4ea370$0a01a8c0@corp.telenor.no> Hello I have downloaded spambayes-1.1a3 to be used for Outlook express. But I do not get it to work. Sending email with localhost results in an error given (server problems). Have I downloaded the correct version of spambayes? Best regards Erik Ostbye From amedee at amedee.be Tue Jan 16 23:26:44 2007 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 23:26:44 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] unsubscribe In-Reply-To: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9051E8A1C@PKCVT01.pkc.com> References: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9051E8A1C@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Message-ID: <1168986404.8517.3.camel@localhost> Op dinsdag 16-01-2007 om 14:03 uur [tijdzone -0500], schreef Jesse Pelton: > Please visit http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes to > unsubscribe. Or send an email to spambayes-request at python.org with subject "unsubscribe" (no quotes). -- Amedee From skip at pobox.com Wed Jan 17 04:18:51 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 21:18:51 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] We could use some Windows help I think... Message-ID: <17837.38299.391291.73313@montanaro.dyndns.org> It would appear that all of our Windows programming expertise is more-or- less permanently booked these days. Most of the user questions to the spambayes list seem to be related to Outlook or Outlook Express. Those questions tend to get answered most of the time, but getting a new release tested, built and out the door (one is sorely needed I think) is tough because of the Windows barriers. I propose we solicit some new Windows programming help from the broader Python community (http://wiki.python.org/moin/VolunteerOpportunities and/or comp.lang.python). Any thoughts about that? Skip From kevintm at ameritech.net Wed Jan 17 16:46:48 2007 From: kevintm at ameritech.net (Kevin Martin) Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 09:46:48 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] html mail getting messed up Message-ID: <45AE44E8.9090501@ameritech.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I've been running SpamBayes 1.1a3 with Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 for about 3 weeks now and I think it's messing up incoming html mail. Below is my bayescustomize.ini file: [Categorization] ham_cutoff:0.3 [Headers] notate_subject:unsure spam [pop3proxy] listen_ports:8110 remote_servers:pop.ahahah.com [html_ui] default_ham_action:ham [Tokenizer] x-crack_images:True x-search_for_habeas_headers:True x-short_runs:True None of the html mail that I get now will show the images. From what I can tell the only thing that could be causing this is SpamBayes. Any thoughts on this are greatly appreciated. Thanks. Kevin -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFrkToaXZlxDxYaM4RAvDxAKCset9r70TFRnPFzdIQ1ZG/sgc7ngCfakie 96GZKmuJDZ2/+NyKnFTlaDM= =X/UO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From smweber at FRIEDE.com Wed Jan 17 19:05:14 2007 From: smweber at FRIEDE.com (Sarah Weber) Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 12:05:14 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Recall: Question Message-ID: Sarah Weber would like to recall the message, "Question". From smweber at FRIEDE.com Wed Jan 17 18:57:46 2007 From: smweber at FRIEDE.com (Sarah Weber) Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 11:57:46 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Question Message-ID: Operating System: Windows 2000 Citrix Operating System: Window 2003 Version of SpamBayes 1.0.4 Is there any way of being able to install spambayes on for a user on Citrix, without giving that person full administrator rights? Or is there another fix that would work. Here is the scenario, I was able to install the program on the hard drive and it works great, but when I log that person into Citrix everything is there except the toolbar buttons. And when you go to try and add the buttons on the tool bar it does not even give you the option for and Spam buttons. Thanks for your help, Sarah From sethg at goodmanassociates.com Wed Jan 17 20:58:27 2007 From: sethg at goodmanassociates.com (Seth Goodman) Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 13:58:27 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Recall: Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sarah Weber wrote on Wednesday, January 17, 2007 12:05 PM -0600: > Sarah Weber would like to recall the message, "Question". For the benefit of other list participants, posts made to public mailing lists like this one cannot be recalled during transmission or later removed from the archives. This is the case even if a message contains factual errors, libelous statements, personal messages, trade secrets or offensive spam. Public list operators do this to maintain an unambiguous policy of no editing of content and to make it clear that posters' are solely responsible for what they say in public. -- Seth Goodman From amedee at amedee.be Wed Jan 17 22:14:28 2007 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 22:14:28 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Recall: Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1169068468.8517.9.camel@localhost> Op woensdag 17-01-2007 om 13:58 uur [tijdzone -0600], schreef Seth Goodman: > Sarah Weber wrote on Wednesday, January 17, 2007 12:05 PM -0600: > > > Sarah Weber would like to recall the message, "Question". > > For the benefit of other list participants, posts made to public > mailing lists like this one cannot be recalled during > transmission or later removed from the archives. This is the > case even if a message contains factual errors, libelous > statements, personal messages, trade secrets or offensive spam. > Public list operators do this to maintain an unambiguous policy > of no editing of content and to make it clear that posters' are > solely responsible for what they say in public. > Or... Sarah just clicked a wrong button in her Outlook client and her Exchange server did something that has no effect outside her local network. Occam's Razor. -- Amedee From mhammond at skippinet.com.au Thu Jan 18 03:34:39 2007 From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond) Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 13:34:39 +1100 Subject: [Spambayes] [spambayes-dev] We could use some Windows help I think... In-Reply-To: <17837.38299.391291.73313@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <044401c73aa9$34557bd0$180a0a0a@enfoldsystems.local> > It would appear that all of our Windows programming expertise > is more-or- > less permanently booked these days. Most of the user questions to the > spambayes list seem to be related to Outlook or Outlook > Express. Those > questions tend to get answered most of the time, but getting > a new release > tested, built and out the door (one is sorely needed I think) is tough > because of the Windows barriers. > > I propose we solicit some new Windows programming help from > the broader > Python community > (http://wiki.python.org/moin/VolunteerOpportunities and/or > comp.lang.python). Any thoughts about that? In general I think that is a great idea. However, my quick scan of the support issues don't indicate that a new version would actually reduce the number of problems. I thought that most of the new stuff relates to new features, rather than at addressing the common problems people see. I'm happy to help knock up a new release if I'm wrong though. Certainly, any new talent could help to address such issues for a future release. I have been playing a little more with the new OCR code and Outlook. Sadly, I'm not seeing much of a reduction in image spam. My experience is currently that ocrad is doing a poor job of extracting the text in these spams (even with many options tweaked), but that gocr (as used by SpamAssassin) does a much better job. I haven't managed to run the tests with this new code yet though. The absence of any real interest from others on spambayes-dev doesn't help my motiviation levels, so that is yet another good reason to try and get more windows developers on board :) Cheers, Mark From spd at mjolner.dk Thu Jan 18 14:05:07 2007 From: spd at mjolner.dk (=?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren_Pingel_Dalsgaard?=) Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:05:07 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Newbie question about forwarding spam Message-ID: Hi, I would like to forward the mail I classify manually as spam to another email address. Similarly with ham. I am using the outlook plugin and would want the mail to be bounced when I presse each of the buttons to correct spambayes decision. Any help, hint or pointers are much appreciated. Thanks, S?ren PS: I am not on the list, so please cc me: spd.at.mjolner.dk /.at./@/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070118/0bbf6fce/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 3344 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070118/0bbf6fce/attachment.bin From bishop at aeroprise.com Thu Jan 18 20:25:33 2007 From: bishop at aeroprise.com (Peter Bishop) Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 11:25:33 -0800 Subject: [Spambayes] Newbie question about forwarding spam In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Soren, I don't think Outlook is prepared to let you program exactly what you want. Remember that you can go to a folder and forward all of the mail from that folder. If you wish to distinguish between the email that you manually identify as ham or spam from the email that is automatically classified as certain spam, then you are going to face some challenges. Try playing around with the folders that are identified as containing ham and spam and then, instead of using the convenient Delete As Spam or Recover from Spam buttons, just move the emails to folders that have been identified as containing ham or spam. This might allow you to distinguish the emails you manually classify from those you automatically classify and get them into different folders. Then just forward them en masse periodically, or possibly even define rules in Outlook to process the contents of these folders. Have you tried looking at your training databases? SpamBayes->SpamBayes Manager->Advanced->Show Data Folder. I am pretty sure the FAQs tell you how to look at the message_database. Is this really what you want to see? Peter Bishop _____ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of S?ren Pingel Dalsgaard Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 5:05 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Newbie question about forwarding spam Hi, I would like to forward the mail I classify manually as spam to another email address. Similarly with ham. I am using the outlook plugin and would want the mail to be bounced when I presse each of the buttons to correct spambayes decision. Any help, hint or pointers are much appreciated. Thanks, S?ren PS: I am not on the list, so please cc me: spd.at.mjolner.dk /.at./@/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070119/6d84dc71/attachment.htm From editor at completelyFREEsoftware.com Fri Jan 19 06:26:22 2007 From: editor at completelyFREEsoftware.com ('Completely FREE Software') Date: 18 Jan 2007 21:26:22 -0800 Subject: [Spambayes] Account Activation Message-ID: <20070119052622.12368.qmail@ns.grand-host.com> Welcome to CFS. You account has been activated and you can now login by going to: http://www.completelyFREEsoftware.com/login.html Here is your username/password, please keep in a safe place for future use. Username: spambayes Password: 78yuh35 NOTE: both your username & password are case sensitive -- please do not use "Happy" or "HAPPY" when your username or password is "happy". If you experience any problems logging in to the site, please check out the FAQ at: http://www.completelyFREEsoftware.com/faqs5.html#13 To get the maximum benefit from your membership, we strongly advise that all CFS members subscribe to our free weekly newsletter. If you are not already a subscriber, you can subscribe by clicking on this link: http://www.completelyfreesoftware.com/cgi-bin/newsletter/mail.cgi?f=s&l=CFS Personalized unsubscribe information is included with every newsletter. Regards Graham Pockett Editor Completely FREE Software From darlene at valhallahelicopters.com Fri Jan 19 17:55:44 2007 From: darlene at valhallahelicopters.com (Darlene) Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 08:55:44 -0800 Subject: [Spambayes] keep losing configuration Message-ID: <000001c73bea$a935f460$2602a8c0@Station1> Windows XP, Outlook 2002 & 2003 Keep losing configuration lately. Turn on outlook and see that my Junk folder is gone, junk suspects still there but no configuration so have to go through the configuration wizard and it starts up again.... Problem is on two machines in different locations with different mail servers. One goes through a proxy and the other is direct to ISP. Why would this be happening? Great product, very useful, but a pain when you have to reset folders and configure all the time..... Do not have logs as I do not know where to find them if they are here. Thank you -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070119/c1e042ed/attachment.html From ELB1918 at invernessvillage.com Sun Jan 21 02:14:48 2007 From: ELB1918 at invernessvillage.com (Ed Bentley) Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:14:48 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] SAME MESSAGES CONTINUE TO APPEAR IN IN BOX-DATED FROM 11/1/06 TO 11/11/06-SENT TO E-MAIL JUNK AND THEN DELETE ANDS THEY COME BACK AGAIN. OVER 3 TO 4 THOUSAND-WHAT DO I DO??? Message-ID: <004a01c73cf9$8b8dfc90$2600a8c0@dell> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070120/d1c6c015/attachment.html From shawn at 12pointdesign.com Sun Jan 21 04:25:52 2007 From: shawn at 12pointdesign.com (Shawn K. Hall) Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:25:52 -0800 Subject: [Spambayes] SAME MESSAGES CONTINUE TO APPEAR IN IN BOX-DATED FROM11/1/06 TO 11/11/06-SENT TO E-MAIL JUNK AND THEN DELETE ANDSTHEY COME BACK AGAIN. OVER 3 TO 4 THOUSAND-WHAT DO I DO??? In-Reply-To: <004a01c73cf9$8b8dfc90$2600a8c0@dell> References: <004a01c73cf9$8b8dfc90$2600a8c0@dell> Message-ID: <061401c73d0b$dacf9400$1e00a8c0@Yoda> Hi Ed, > SAME MESSAGES CONTINUE TO APPEAR IN INBOX... I'd recommend you delete those messages from your mail server. Since you're using Outlook, you can do this by changing this setting in your account: > Tools > Email Accounts > View or change... > Next > Select the account > Change > More settings > Advanced tab > CHECK "remove from server when deleted from deleted items" Regards, Shawn K. Hall http://12PointDesign.com/ From mail at justinb.net Sun Jan 21 20:06:28 2007 From: mail at justinb.net (Justin Balletta) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 14:06:28 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes for Outlook 2007? Message-ID: <20070121194050.683AD1E400C@bag.python.org> Dear developers, SpamBayes has been indispensable to me in Outlook 2003. I would like to know if this plug-in is compatible with Outlook 2007, and if not, do you have plans to release a compatible version? Thank you. - Justin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070121/18012627/attachment.html From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Mon Jan 22 13:32:33 2007 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 07:32:33 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Plug-in: Buttons in message window References: Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F500866E73D@SPIKE.city> > From: Mark Hammond [mailto:mhammond at skippinet.com.au] > Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 8:09 PM > To: python-spambayes.5.flick at xoxy.net; spambayes at python.org > Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Outlook Plug-in: Buttons in message window > > > I would like to see the "Delete as spam" button in the > > message reading window, not just in the message index window. > > Sometimes I have to open a message in order to determine > > whether or not it's valid. Currently I then have to shut it, > > go back to the index and tag it there. Would be great to do > > it in fewer steps. > > Yeah - that is a good idea - but I am reluctant to take this > step until I can make the existing toolbar buttons reliable. > We are getting way too many bug reports about the toolbars. > > Mark. Is it time yet? ;^) Bob From bbethke at netzero.net Mon Jan 22 21:09:41 2007 From: bbethke at netzero.net (Bill Bethke) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:09:41 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Changing data file location for OL Message-ID: <000201c73e61$40f7f410$0100a8c0@Hall> I read the FAQ and Configuration Guide, but doing what I understood did not work. Below is what I did (with Outlook 2002 closed): Created directory: D:\Documents and Settings\Bill\Outlook\SpamBayes Data Moved default_message_database.db and default_bayes_database.db from C:\Documents and Settings\Bill\Application Data\SpamBays to D:\Documents and Settings\Bill\Outlook\SpamBayes Data Created the file named default_configuration.ini and placed it in C:\Documents and Settings\Bill\Application Data\SpamBays with the following two lines: [General] data_directory=D:\ Documents and Settings\Bill\Outlook\SpamBayes Data My understanding was that when I opened Outlook SpamBayes would read the default_configuration.ini file in the Application Directory path and then use the data bases from the D: path. However, when opening up Outlook I get the message that SpamBayes is not configured. I thought the spaces in the directory name in default_configuration.ini might be the problem, so I changed it (and moved data files) to D:\SPAM. But that did not work either. What am I missing here? My goal is to have the data bases on a drive and path that I regularly back up, and also share that database (as well as the Outlook pst file) on a laptop via Briefcase. (I only use one machine or the other before updating briefcase so Outlook will not try to run on both machines on the same data at once) Thanks for anyone who can help! Bill -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070122/64cf45e4/attachment.htm From jukeller at geneva-link.ch Tue Jan 23 09:23:33 2007 From: jukeller at geneva-link.ch (Jukeller) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 09:23:33 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Message-ID: <001401c73ec7$c59c5740$0201a8c0@fixe> Hi, i've a problem with my Spambayes. It is installed, it appears in the toolbar from my Oulook 2003 SP2, but it is not working. If i click on "Delete as Spam" there is no reaction. In attachement i've sent you the log file - the system description and a screen from my Outlook. Can you give some advise? Jurgen KELLER Chemin de la Gradelle 38 1224 Ch?ne-Bougeries Geneva/Switzerland Land +41223482352 Mobile +41794428719 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070123/c8294d18/attachment.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Spam.doc Type: application/msword Size: 105984 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070123/c8294d18/attachment-0001.doc From sethg at goodmanassociates.com Wed Jan 24 00:28:21 2007 From: sethg at goodmanassociates.com (Seth Goodman) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:28:21 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Plug-in: Buttons in message window In-Reply-To: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F500866E73D@SPIKE.city> Message-ID: Bob Coe wrote on 06:33 -0600: > > From: Mark Hammond [mailto:mhammond at skippinet.com.au] > > Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 8:09 PM > > To: python-spambayes.5.flick at xoxy.net; spambayes at python.org > > Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Outlook Plug-in: Buttons in message window > > > > > I would like to see the "Delete as spam" button in the > > > message reading window, not just in the message index window. > > > Sometimes I have to open a message in order to determine > > > whether or not it's valid. Currently I then have to shut it, > > > go back to the index and tag it there. Would be great to do > > > it in fewer steps. > > > > Yeah - that is a good idea - but I am reluctant to take this > > step until I can make the existing toolbar buttons reliable. > > We are getting way too many bug reports about the toolbars. > > > > Mark. > > Is it time yet? ;^) While on the subject of toolbar buttons, I would find it very useful to display the spam and not-spam buttons all the time, instead of a context-sensitive subset. This causes a problem for my use of Spambayes with Outlook as I train on more than just unsures, but not everything. That is, I set my ham threshold high enough that it classifies more ham correctly, but I will still train on some of the higher-scoring ham. Ditto for the spam, though this is less important. The obvious question for those who may use Spambayes as I do is, "why not just set the ham and spam thresholds tighter and have those messages go into unsure, where you can then train on them?" The answer is that most of what goes to unsure is spam, and I look there infrequently enough that I am annoyed when I find an important message in there. By raising the ham threshold, virtually no ham winds up in unsure, yet the highest scoring ham is still a candidate for training. Since the not-spam button isn't visible in the inbox, I have to first move the message to unsure in order to train on it, which is not only a bother, but it messes up the statistics. Displaying the not-spam button in the inbox and the spam button in the spam folder basically means making the buttons not context-sensitive at all. I realize that many people like it the way it is, so it would ideally be an option in the training toolbar with the present method as default. It could be a single option that let's you choose "display spam, not-spam buttons only where needed" or "display spam, not-spam buttons in all folders". -- Seth Goodman From wombat at scheerfun.org Wed Jan 24 05:43:56 2007 From: wombat at scheerfun.org (Jon Scheer) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:43:56 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes crashes under Mac OS X (10.3.9). Message-ID: <45B6E40C.9030306@scheerfun.org> Hi all. This is my first post the group. My apologies if this has been covered elsewhere. I've been Googling for a while and cannot find an answer to my problem. I've setup Spambayes on my wife's Mac (OS X 10.3.9) using several different methods (prepackaged install, from source, etc), and no matter what method I use, Spambayes (sb_server POP3 script) seems to die after a short amount of time, resulting in email not reaching the email client (Thunderbird). Any ideas on what's going on or how I can figure out why sb_server keeps crashing? advTHANKSance ("THANKS in advance" :-) -Jon 1/23/2007 From gonnyc at gmail.com Wed Jan 24 19:38:55 2007 From: gonnyc at gmail.com (Gon) Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:38:55 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook-Spambayes problem Message-ID: <320bbd230701241038l4179386dyce91d44458380cd5@mail.gmail.com> I am working on a PC with Windows XP and office 2003. I have been using Spambayes within my outlook for a while with much joy and no problems. A few days ago issues started ? any touch of the Sapmbayes buttons, whether the "delete as spam" or manager (for training) prompts outlook to crash. Simply shut down with no error message. I uninstalled and reinstalled Spambayes but the problem remained. I'd greatly appreciate getting you edvice, as I'm very interested to keep working with Spambayes. Thank you Gon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We can remove this folder but not empty it. I have use the Outlook utility to recreate default folders but this does not work. Any suggestions on how to bring back the default junk e-mail folder? Thanks, Charlie Wirth -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070125/c40bb315/attachment.html From mike_padmore at zen.co.uk Thu Jan 25 16:56:55 2007 From: mike_padmore at zen.co.uk (mike padmore) Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 15:56:55 -0000 Subject: [Spambayes] Windows reinstall Message-ID: <003501c74099$70303550$84cc9bd9@livingroom> Hi, I have been running SpamBayes on Windows XP/Outlook Express for about 9 months, and very effective it is too, now that it is fully trained. I am about to reinstall Wndows but do not wish to have to retrain Spambayes. I have copied the Spambayes folder, as instructed in the Backup FAQ, but cannot find a FAQ that tells me how to utilise this after the reinstall. Do I reinstall Spambayes from the website, then paste in the previously backedup folder in the appropriate place? Do I deleted the old .ini file before doing this, as my PC's configuration will undoubtedly have changed? Advice appreciated Mike Padmore From jsp at PKC.com Thu Jan 25 16:59:39 2007 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 10:59:39 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Missing Junk Email Folder In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9052E1A8B@PKCVT01.pkc.com> First, I don't think SpamBayes creates any folders. I'd suspect the new Exchange provider and/or Outlook. Second, SpamBayes allows you to specify any folders you like for spam and possible spam. You could try removing the Junk E-mail1 folder, creating your own spam and possible spam folders, and configuring SpamBayes to use those folders. (You specify the folders on the Filter tab of the SpamBayes Manager. The Manager is available from the SpamBayes button on the Outlook toolbar.) I'd be a bit nervous about removing the Junk E-mail1 folder, though. Exchange may be putting messages that it thinks are junk into it. I don't trust Exchange's filtering, so I have SpamBayes filter the Junk E-mail and Junk E-mail Candidates folders as well as the inbox. This removes the possibility that I'll miss ham because of misclassification by Exchange. (I use 1.1 alpha software, which allows ham as well as spam to be moved.) ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Charlie Wirth Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 10:08 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Missing Junk Email Folder Hello: We use Spambayes in our office and it works very well. We have been having a problem recently when we changed to a new Exchange provider. It seems that the default Junk E-Mail folder is missing on many of our computers. We are using Outlook 2003. It appears that Spambayes created a new folder called Junk E-mail1. With the default junk e-mail folder we had the ability to 'empty' this folder. But with the junk e-mail1 folder we cannot do this. We can remove this folder but not empty it. I have use the Outlook utility to recreate default folders but this does not work. Any suggestions on how to bring back the default junk e-mail folder? Thanks, Charlie Wirth -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070125/172e80ce/attachment.html From Donna at seingramco.com Thu Jan 25 16:46:14 2007 From: Donna at seingramco.com (Donna Walker) Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 08:46:14 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes installation documentation unavailable??? Message-ID: <7ACE60BE6EF166418A1C5F90D9DB7D8669BEBC@server.seingramco.com> When I click on the link to print out the documentation on installing Spambayes I am getting a "This page cannot be displayed" message. I've downloaded the software and would really like to install and start using it. Can you assist me? Donna Walker INGRAM & CO., INC. 2151 E. Broadway Road, Suite 206 Tempe, Arizona 85282 480/967-6466 480/967-7114 Fax E-mail: donna at seingramco.com Website: www.seingramco.com Ingram & Co., Inc. is passionately committed to providing our clients the knowledge, support and services to enable them to achieve financial, personal and professional success. This message may contain confidential and/or proprietary information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I don't know whether to trust these stats since there's a corrupt file somewhere, but it says I've trained 133 spam, 438 ham. I'm using Eudora Pro 5 on WinXP. On the configuration page: Storage file name: hammie.db, Message info file: spambayes.messageinfo.db, Cache: Yes, Suppress caching of bulk ham: No, Max size cached: 0 Storage options: dbm, Use gzip: No 500 Server error Traceback (most recent call last): File "spambayes\Dibbler.pyc", line 470, in found_terminator File "spambayes\ProxyUI.pyc", line 396, in onReview File "spambayes\Corpus.pyc", line 214, in takeMessage File "spambayes\FileCorpus.pyc", line 140, in addMessage File "spambayes\Corpus.pyc", line 134, in addMessage File "spambayes\storage.pyc", line 617, in onAddMessage File "spambayes\storage.pyc", line 625, in train File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 273, in learn File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 384, in _add_msg File "spambayes\storage.pyc", line 304, in _wordinfoset File "shelve.pyc", line 130, in __setitem__ File "bsddb\__init__.pyc", line 120, in __setitem__ DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') Why does this keep happening? [Philosophy] "A witty saying proves nothing." --Voltaire --... ...-- -.. . -. ----. --.- --.- -... tpeters at nospam.mixcom.com (remove "nospam") N9QQB (amateur radio) "HEY YOU" (loud shouting) WEB ADDRESS http//www.mixweb.com/tpeters 43? 7' 17.2" N by 88? 6' 28.9" W, Elevation 815', Grid Square EN53wc WAN/LAN/Telcom Analyst, Tech Writer, MCP, CCNA, Registered Linux User 385531 From skip at pobox.com Thu Jan 25 18:08:30 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 11:08:30 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes installation documentation unavailable??? In-Reply-To: <7ACE60BE6EF166418A1C5F90D9DB7D8669BEBC@server.seingramco.com> References: <7ACE60BE6EF166418A1C5F90D9DB7D8669BEBC@server.seingramco.com> Message-ID: <17848.58382.495657.550276@montanaro.dyndns.org> Donna> When I click on the link to print out the documentation on Donna> installing Spambayes I am getting a "This page cannot be Donna> displayed" message. I've downloaded the software and would Donna> really like to install and start using it. Can you assist me? What is the URL of the missing page? If it is this page: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/spambayes/spambayes/README.txt?rev=HEAD&content-type=text/plain it appears that SourceForge is currently slow or unavailable. Skip From jsp at PKC.com Thu Jan 25 18:18:58 2007 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 12:18:58 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes installation documentation unavailable??? In-Reply-To: <17848.58382.495657.550276@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9052E1AE8@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Actually, I think SourceForge must have changed their CVS URLs. URLs that start with http://cvs.sourceforge.net send back an empty page. Try http://spambayes.cvs.sourceforge.net/*checkout*/spambayes/spambayes/READ ME.txt. Should I file a bug tracker? -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of skip at pobox.com Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 12:09 PM To: Donna Walker Cc: spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Spambayes installation documentation unavailable??? Donna> When I click on the link to print out the documentation on Donna> installing Spambayes I am getting a "This page cannot be Donna> displayed" message. I've downloaded the software and would Donna> really like to install and start using it. Can you assist me? What is the URL of the missing page? If it is this page: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/spambayes/spam bayes/README.txt?rev=HEAD&content-type=text/plain it appears that SourceForge is currently slow or unavailable. Skip _______________________________________________ SpamBayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From skip at pobox.com Thu Jan 25 18:32:51 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 11:32:51 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Database error In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20070125094608.0db99e28@localhost> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20070125094608.0db99e28@localhost> Message-ID: <17848.59843.905386.635876@montanaro.dyndns.org> Tom> Help! I upgraded to 1.0.4 and am using the Pop3 proxy. I has been Tom> doing so for over a year, but it blew up on a database corruption Tom> issue (??) so I downloaded the latest on 8/1/2006 Tom> Since then it's blown up on me at least twice. It's always died in Tom> the same operation: When I click the "Train" button in the web Tom> interface. The default storage doesn't support multiple writers to the database. That's the usual cause of corruption. I suggest you switch to the zodb storage and train from scratch. If you really do have multiple writers, switch to zeo. Skip From jsp at PKC.com Thu Jan 25 18:35:16 2007 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 12:35:16 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes installation documentation unavailable??? In-Reply-To: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F904FAD854@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9052E1AEA@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Never mind the tracker; I created one in August. See http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1547894&group_i d=61702&atid=498103. Fixes for broken URLs in windows.ht have been checked in by mhammond since then; problems remain in apps/outlook/bugs.txt. If I make a patch for bugs.txt and attach it to the tracker, could someone check it in and update the Web site? -----Original Message----- From: Jesse Pelton Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 12:19 PM To: 'skip at pobox.com'; 'Donna Walker' Cc: 'spambayes at python.org' Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Spambayes installation documentation unavailable??? Actually, I think SourceForge must have changed their CVS URLs. URLs that start with http://cvs.sourceforge.net send back an empty page. Try http://spambayes.cvs.sourceforge.net/*checkout*/spambayes/spambayes/READ ME.txt. Should I file a bug tracker? -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of skip at pobox.com Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 12:09 PM To: Donna Walker Cc: spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Spambayes installation documentation unavailable??? Donna> When I click on the link to print out the documentation on Donna> installing Spambayes I am getting a "This page cannot be Donna> displayed" message. I've downloaded the software and would Donna> really like to install and start using it. Can you assist me? What is the URL of the missing page? If it is this page: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/spambayes/spam bayes/README.txt?rev=HEAD&content-type=text/plain it appears that SourceForge is currently slow or unavailable. Skip _______________________________________________ SpamBayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From skip at pobox.com Thu Jan 25 20:46:22 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 13:46:22 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes installation documentation unavailable??? In-Reply-To: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9052E1AEA@PKCVT01.pkc.com> References: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F904FAD854@PKCVT01.pkc.com> <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F9052E1AEA@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Message-ID: <17849.2318.826460.581210@montanaro.dyndns.org> Jesse> Never mind the tracker; I created one in August. I found and fixed some URLs and rebuilt the website. If you see further problems add a comment to Jesse's bug report. Skip From ggrannieme at westnet.com.au Fri Jan 26 02:21:50 2007 From: ggrannieme at westnet.com.au (Peg) Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:21:50 +1100 Subject: [Spambayes] UNINSTALLING SB??? Message-ID: <000601c740e8$5b7a4ac0$0100000a@pc> Can someone tell me please how to delete Sapmbayes from my computer. I have used Add/Remove, but the items that *must be done manually*, will not allow me to do so. I have changed ISP's and they have their own spam filter and I want to get rid of the above. 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(Something like, "When I attempt to delete foobar.baz in Explorer, a message box displays with the following text: 'Error: Unplug toaster before polishing shoes'.".) ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Peg Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 8:22 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] UNINSTALLING SB??? Can someone tell me please how to delete Sapmbayes from my computer. I have used Add/Remove, but the items that *must be done manually*, will not allow me to do so. I have changed ISP's and they have their own spam filter and I want to get rid of the above. Thanks Peg Rampling ggrannieme at westnet.com.au -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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[Success] The only true measure of success is the ratio between what we might have done and what we might have been on the one hand, and the thing we have made and the things we have made of ourselves on the other. --H.G. Wells --... ...-- -.. . -. ----. --.- --.- -... tpeters at nospam.mixcom.com (remove "nospam") N9QQB (amateur radio) "HEY YOU" (loud shouting) WEB ADDRESS http//www.mixweb.com/tpeters 43? 7' 17.2" N by 88? 6' 28.9" W, Elevation 815', Grid Square EN53wc WAN/LAN/Telcom Analyst, Tech Writer, MCP, CCNA, Registered Linux User 385531 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070126/c8e37045/attachment.html From skip at pobox.com Fri Jan 26 17:23:18 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 10:23:18 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Database error In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20070126095201.0bd53ea8@localhost> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20070125094608.0db99e28@localhost> <5.1.0.14.2.20070126095201.0bd53ea8@localhost> Message-ID: <17850.10998.907369.971557@montanaro.dyndns.org> (please cc spambayes at python.org...) >> The default storage doesn't support multiple writers to the database. >> That's the usual cause of corruption. I suggest you switch to the >> zodb storage and train from scratch. If you really do have multiple >> writers, switch to zeo. Tom> Skip: I don't understand what you mean by zodb or zeo. Are these Tom> different compile options? I run a binary. Here are my choices on Tom> the config menu: Tom> Use database for storage: Tom> mysql Tom> pgsql Tom> dbm Tom> pickle Tom> True Tom> False Tom> True Tom> False What version of SpamBayes are you running? I thought the latest version had zodb and zeo options. Skip From hellmag at web.de Fri Jan 26 18:33:22 2007 From: hellmag at web.de (hellmag) Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 18:33:22 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes at different Windows identities Message-ID: <000001c74170$14080140$08b2a8c0@COMP2> Ladies and gentlemen, Our Windows XP is set up with 4 identities. After installing spambayes, it shows only up in the identity where it has been installed. Additional installation in another identity did not work and led to an error message. Please let me know what to do. Thanks, Guenter -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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After installing > spambayes, it shows only up in the identity where it has been > installed. Additional installation in another identity did not work > and led to an error message. Please let me know what to do. > > Thanks, > Guenter << File: ATT3525682.txt >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070126/0a8ce9fc/attachment.html From listmail at athenet.net Fri Jan 26 20:56:28 2007 From: listmail at athenet.net (Tom) Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 13:56:28 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Database error In-Reply-To: <17850.10998.907369.971557@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20070126095201.0bd53ea8@localhost> <5.1.0.14.2.20070125094608.0db99e28@localhost> <5.1.0.14.2.20070126095201.0bd53ea8@localhost> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20070126134813.0c0eed48@localhost> At 10:23 AM 1/26/2007 -0600, skip at pobox.com wrote: > >> The default storage doesn't support multiple writers to the database. I take this to mean that perhaps I was training on some messages while my email client was open and actively updating the database... is that what this might mean? > >> That's the usual cause of corruption. I suggest you switch to the > >> zodb storage and train from scratch. If you really do have multiple > >> writers, switch to zeo. > > Tom> Skip: I don't understand what you mean by zodb or zeo. Are these > Tom> different compile options? I run a binary. Here are my choices on > Tom> the config menu: > > Tom> Use database for storage: > Tom> mysql > Tom> pgsql > Tom> dbm > Tom> pickle > Tom> True > Tom> False > Tom> True > Tom> False > >What version of SpamBayes are you running? I thought the latest version had >zodb and zeo options. Pop3 proxy version is 1.0.4. I'm not sure how to check what version any other part of it is. I do know for sure that the latest download I have here is an EXE installer for 1.0.4 which I obtained on or before 8/1/2006. And there are no options visible in the config page (http://localhost:8880/config) for zodb and zeo options. [Culture] Every film should have a beginning, a middle, and an end, not necessarily in that order. --Jean-Luc Goddard --... ...-- -.. . -. ----. --.- --.- -... tpeters at nospam.mixcom.com (remove "nospam") N9QQB (amateur radio) "HEY YOU" (loud shouting) WEB ADDRESS http//www.mixweb.com/tpeters 43? 7' 17.2" N by 88? 6' 28.9" W, Elevation 815', Grid Square EN53wc WAN/LAN/Telcom Analyst, Tech Writer, MCP, CCNA, Registered Linux User 385531 From skip at pobox.com Fri Jan 26 21:55:18 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:55:18 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Database error In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20070126134813.0c0eed48@localhost> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20070126095201.0bd53ea8@localhost> <5.1.0.14.2.20070125094608.0db99e28@localhost> <5.1.0.14.2.20070126134813.0c0eed48@localhost> Message-ID: <17850.27318.134303.362896@montanaro.dyndns.org> >> The default storage doesn't support multiple writers to the database. Tom> I take this to mean that perhaps I was training on some messages Tom> while my email client was open and actively updating the Tom> database... is that what this might mean? Yup. If you're using the pop3 proxy why would your email client be updating the database? >> What version of SpamBayes are you running? I thought the latest >> version had zodb and zeo options. Tom> Pop3 proxy version is 1.0.4. I just rummaged through the change log in the source. It appears that the zodb/zeo support is new in 1.1. You can try 1.1a2 or 1.1a3, the latest versions. Zodb storage is the default since 1.1a2 was released last April. We've been much too long in alpha test for 1.1, but we collectively are short on time. If you decide to upgrade your feedback would be much appreciated. Given that your current database is corrupt I'd just toss it instead of trying to convert it from dbm to zodb. Skip From ahollis at iform.com.au Fri Jan 26 22:46:56 2007 From: ahollis at iform.com.au (ahollis at iform.com.au) Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 22:46:56 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy: User training of Spambayes Message-ID: <20070126214656.C9AD91E4007@bag.python.org> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: SpamBayesServer1.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 1010 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070126/bef216a3/attachment.obj -------------- next part -------------- I am using SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 1.0.4 (March 2005) (binary), with version 2.3.5 (#62, Feb 8 2005, 16:23:02) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] of Python; my operating system is Windows 5.1.2600.2 (Service Pack 2). I have trained 2 ham and 50 spam. The problem I am having is : I would like to know if Spambayes can delete or dump those emails identified as spam into a specific folder as they are recognised when arriving or do I have to delete each individual email as in the past? So far (three days)I am impressed with Spambayes capabilities. I installed it from the DVD Disc supplied with PC User magazine (Australia). Regards, Allan Hollis From spamaway at excite.com Sat Jan 27 01:25:11 2007 From: spamaway at excite.com (Spam) Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 19:25:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spambayes] Migrating Spambayes Database to Barracuda Message-ID: <20070127002511.DA941BD65C@xprdmxin.myway.com> I'm a long time fan of Spambayes and use it to manage my incoming spam that arrives to Outlook. My ISP uses Barracuda spam filtering (http://www.barracudanetworks.com) on their server and to properly train it, I would be forced to process all of my Email via a web interface. The problem is that all of my contacts are in Outlook which is the preferred Email client I like to use. I have a relatively good Spambayes Bayesian database and see that Barracuda also accepts a Bayesian database. When I attempted to upload my local default_bayes_database.db to the Barracuda system of my ISP, I received a message that "Unable to restore Bayesian database." I'm assuming it is because the structure of the two Bayesian databases are not compatible/consistent. Has anyone had experience migrating the information/settings from Spambayes to Barracuda? _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Well, what I meant to say is that the email client initiated a mail download, causing the proxy to update the db. > >> What version of SpamBayes are you running? I thought the latest > >> version had zodb and zeo options. > > Tom> Pop3 proxy version is 1.0.4. > >I just rummaged through the change log in the source. It appears that the >zodb/zeo support is new in 1.1. You can try 1.1a2 or 1.1a3, the latest >versions. Zodb storage is the default since 1.1a2 was released last April. >We've been much too long in alpha test for 1.1, but we collectively are >short on time. If you decide to upgrade your feedback would be much >appreciated. Given that your current database is corrupt I'd just toss it >instead of trying to convert it from dbm to zodb. Ok, thanks. I wasn't aware that there was a 1.1 alpha out there yet. How dangerous is it to run 1.1a3? Do either dbm or zodb require other support, e.g. other packages I need to download and install? >Skip [Writers] From the point of view of literature Mr. Kipling is a genius who drops his aspirates. From the point of view of life, he is a reporter who knows vulgarity better than any one has ever known it. - -Oscar Wilde --... ...-- -.. . -. ----. --.- --.- -... tpeters at nospam.mixcom.com (remove "nospam") N9QQB (amateur radio) "HEY YOU" (loud shouting) WEB ADDRESS http//www.mixweb.com/tpeters 43? 7' 17.2" N by 88? 6' 28.9" W, Elevation 815', Grid Square EN53wc WAN/LAN/Telcom Analyst, Tech Writer, MCP, CCNA, Registered Linux User 385531 From skip at pobox.com Sat Jan 27 03:34:38 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 20:34:38 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Database error In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20070126185310.0dbf0738@localhost> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20070126134813.0c0eed48@localhost> <5.1.0.14.2.20070126095201.0bd53ea8@localhost> <5.1.0.14.2.20070125094608.0db99e28@localhost> <5.1.0.14.2.20070126185310.0dbf0738@localhost> Message-ID: <17850.47678.920677.879643@montanaro.dyndns.org> Tom> Ok, thanks. I wasn't aware that there was a 1.1 alpha out there Tom> yet. How dangerous is it to run 1.1a3? You should be okay. 1.1 went into alpha about a year ago. A number of us use it with zodb support. 1.1a3 has new functionality described here: http://entrian.com/sbwiki/TryOutThePreRelease but I don't think there's anything new related to the database support. Tom> Do either dbm or zodb require other support, e.g. other packages I Tom> need to download and install? I don't believe so if you're using the Windows binary installer. Skip From walter.blankenship at jhtools.com Mon Jan 29 19:42:34 2007 From: walter.blankenship at jhtools.com (walter.blankenship at jhtools.com) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 13:42:34 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] INI files Message-ID: on the try out pre release page, under experimental, the file "bayescustomize.ini" is referenced. But under 'storage types' file "default_bayes_customize.ini". As I am using windows XP which, both , or my generic label do I use? Walter Blankenship Systems Engineer J&H Machine Tools v 704-545-7056 f 704-573-3409 ' From lawrence.bishton at btinternet.com Mon Jan 29 21:39:51 2007 From: lawrence.bishton at btinternet.com (lol) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 20:39:51 -0000 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayas Message-ID: <000601c743e5$a09ec540$0301a8c0@mrnasty> hello i have down loaded spambayes [pop3 proxy binary ver 1.0.4 march 05] because i am get between 150-200 spam aday but i cannot get it to work please help. i have outlook express with 3 email adderss going to it and bt broadband it say my servers is pop3 the program is there but nothing is going to it they are still going thur to outlook. changed servers setting to pop3.btinternet.com and tryd mail.btinternet.com changed port to 101. on outlook i have changed servers to my pc IP address. can you help and tell me were i am going wrong in simple terms -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Maury King rides at CarpoolMaui.com CarpoolMaui.com 808-268-3656 - Verizon Mobile 808-874-5955 - Home Phone/Fax -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070129/b6248d22/attachment.html From gbrandenburg1 at comcast.net Tue Jan 30 12:43:51 2007 From: gbrandenburg1 at comcast.net (Gil Brandenburg) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 06:43:51 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Fight image spam (for mere mortals)! Message-ID: <001801c74463$f0037d00$8d4e6d0a@Turion> Could one of the experts please provide details of how to use ocrad with the Outlook plug-in? I've tried to search for details and am unsure what needs to be installed for 1.1a3 to use ocrad. I have not been able to get Spambayes 1.1a3 to detect image based spam successfully. Thanks! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.14/657 - Release Date: 1/29/2007 9:04 AM -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070130/4694858d/attachment.htm From jsp at PKC.com Tue Jan 30 14:32:26 2007 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 08:32:26 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Junk Suspects to....? In-Reply-To: <003a01c7440c$59ecdca0$6401a8c0@VIAODESK> Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F905356EE7@PKCVT01.pkc.com> See http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#why-can-t-i-set-spam-to-be-mov ed-to-the-deleted-items-folder for why SpamBayes doesn't automatically delete messages. You can specify where spam and possible spam goes using the SpamBayes Manager (see the Filtering tab) - except that you can't choose the Deleted Items folder. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Maury King Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 8:17 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Junk Suspects to....? Sorry to bother you, but I'm really curious about why when I'm in my Junk Suspects folder & I hit Delete As Spam, why can't those messages go into the Deleted Items folder in Outlook so I don't have to look at them again in my Junk E-Mail Folder? I don't see anyplace in the program where I have a chance to specify where those Junk Suspects go when I label them as Spam. Thanks for telling me if it is possible or considering the option in a future version. & thanks very much for the great spam program. 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Is there a way to exclude this recipient or otherwise classify it as a good sender? thanks Combined Score: 0% (5.55112e-017) Internal ham score (*H*): 1 Internal spam score (*S*): 1.11022e-016 # ham trained on: 532 # spam trained on: 2372 40 Significant Tokens token spamprob #ham #spam 'compressed' 0.00215414 104 0 'from:name:myfax' 0.00464396 48 0 'from:addr:myfax.com' 0.00474183 47 0 'x-mailer:mabry' 0.00474183 47 0 'message-id:@protus.com' 0.00484392 46 0 'pages:' 0.00484392 46 0 'subject:MyFax' 0.00484392 46 0 '768' 0.0049505 45 0 '(866)' 0.00760759 58 1 'subject:Delivery' 0.00915856 48 1 '528-4945' 0.00920245 24 0 '1024' 0.014518 45 2 'file.' 0.0180762 48 3 'screen.' 0.0229398 47 4 'fax:' 0.0375139 74 12 '178' 0.0412844 5 0 'attached' 0.046375 73 15 'est' 0.0533178 51 12 'number:' 0.0575517 58 15 'sending' 0.0641125 68 20 'fax' 0.074213 86 30 'from:addr:noreply' 0.0840131 14 5 'reading' 0.0889893 59 25 'fit' 0.106146 56 29 'note' 0.123401 87 54 'duration:' 0.138087 47 33 'it,' 0.145258 72 54 '01/30/07' 0.155172 1 0 '09:39:42' 0.155172 1 0 'subject:from' 0.155916 65 53 'page' 0.169141 92 83 'shown' 0.219352 57 71 'text' 0.241503 70 99 'problems' 0.274182 75 126 'received' 0.285563 95 169 'at:' 0.330111 57 125 'first' 0.336216 117 264 'virus:src="cid:' 0.347495 70 166 'receiving' 0.351296 97 234 'view' 0.373808 97 258 Message Stream X-MS-Mail-Gibberish: Microsoft Mail Internet Headers Version 2.0 Received: from mail1-7.protusfax.com ([209.5.242.67]) by mail.nextlevella.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 30 Jan 2007 08:43:01 -0600 Received: from [10.98.3.55] (HELO ice-10) by mail1-7.protusfax.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.9) with SMTP id 3318653 for nick at nextlevella.com; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 09:43:00 -0500 To: nick at nextlevella.com Subject: MyFax Delivery from NA MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mabry From: MyFax Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="39866322278_boundary" Message-ID: <200713034980_MabryMail_628722326 at protus.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 09:43:00 -0500 Return-Path: NoReply at MyFax.com X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jan 2007 14:43:01.0726 (UTC) FILETIME=[F13C8FE0:01C7447C] Fax Received at: 01/30/07 09:39:42 EST Receiving Fax Number: (866) 528-4945 # of Pages: 4 Duration: 178 Sending Fax: NA Please note that the image shown here is only the first page of the attached fax and is compressed to fit a 1024 X 768 screen. 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All Message Tokens 66 unique tokens '(866)' '01/30/07' '09:39:42' '1024' '178' '528-4945' '768' 'and' 'at:' 'attached' 'cc:none' 'compressed' 'content-type:text/plain' 'duration:' 'est' 'fax' 'fax:' 'file.' 'first' 'fit' 'from:addr:myfax.com' 'from:addr:noreply' 'from:name:myfax' 'have' 'header:Date:1' 'header:From:1' 'header:MIME-Version:1' 'header:Message-ID:1' 'header:Received:2' 'header:Return-Path:1' 'header:Subject:1' 'header:To:1' 'here' 'image' 'it,' 'message-id:@protus.com' 'note' 'number:' 'only' 'page' 'pages:' 'please' 'problems' 'reading' 'received' 'receiving' 'reply-to:none' 'screen.' 'sender:none' 'sending' 'shown' 'subject: ' 'subject:Delivery' 'subject:MyFax' 'subject:from' 'text' 'that' 'the' 'to:2**0' 'to:addr:nextlevella.com' 'to:addr:nick' 'to:no real name:2**0' 'view' 'virus:src="cid:' 'x-mailer:mabry' 'you' -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070130/36c7990c/attachment.htm -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "MyFax" Subject: MyFax Delivery from NA Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 08:43:00 -0600 Size: 256726 Url: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070130/36c7990c/attachment-0001.mht From skip at pobox.com Tue Jan 30 20:22:50 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 13:22:50 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Clues: MyFax Delivery from NA In-Reply-To: <8A1807313D905A4D9D2BC330EED4B4F4058B20@nlserver.nextlevella.local> References: <8A1807313D905A4D9D2BC330EED4B4F4058B20@nlserver.nextlevella.local> Message-ID: <17855.39690.465661.359932@montanaro.dyndns.org> Nick> the item below continues to get thrown into my spam folder Nick> regardless of the number of times I have recovered it. ... Nick> Combined Score: 0% (5.55112e-017) Nick> Internal ham score (*H*): 1 Nick> Internal spam score (*S*): 1.11022e-016 SpamBayes thinks it's okay. You might want to check your Outlook filters. Skip From Greg.Coleman at progent.com Tue Jan 30 21:03:25 2007 From: Greg.Coleman at progent.com (Greg Coleman) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:03:25 -0800 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Bayes will not remove Message-ID: I have un-installed Spam Bayes yet it still appears in Outlook (although I don't think it is working). How do I remove this little app from Outlook completely? (Company orders) :-( Thanks! Greg Coleman MCP, MCSA Network Engineer (888) 412-5546 Technincal Response Center (24x7 Support) (415) 812-0733 Direct Voice (510) 300-1479 Direct FAX (800) 993-9400 Main Phone Number Greg.Coleman at Progent.com www.progent.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 3658 bytes Desc: image001.jpg Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070130/5842ab96/attachment.jpe From kenny.pitt at gmail.com Tue Jan 30 23:15:55 2007 From: kenny.pitt at gmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:15:55 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Clues: MyFax Delivery from NA In-Reply-To: <17855.39690.465661.359932@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <8A1807313D905A4D9D2BC330EED4B4F4058B20@nlserver.nextlevella.local> <17855.39690.465661.359932@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <2a052b990701301415o46acf863u93f755a1f92415ad@mail.gmail.com> On 1/30/07, skip at pobox.com wrote: > > Nick> the item below continues to get thrown into my spam folder > Nick> regardless of the number of times I have recovered it. > ... > Nick> Combined Score: 0% (5.55112e-017) > > Nick> Internal ham score (*H*): 1 > Nick> Internal spam score (*S*): 1.11022e-016 > > SpamBayes thinks it's okay. You might want to check your Outlook filters. Also, did you generate these spam clues before or after you trained this specific message? If you generate the clues after training then you will always get a near-zero spam percentage. It is important to look at the spam clues before you train if SpamBayes was, in fact, the one that put the message into the spam folder. If you are using SpamBayes in conjunction with the Outlook junk mail filter and you continue to have problems, you could disable the Outlook filter (SpamBayes will likely be just as effective on its own) or you could configure SpamBayes to use a different spam folder to make it easy to see which filter flagged the message as spam. BTW, what version of the SpamBayes plugin are you running? -- Kenny Pitt From kenny.pitt at gmail.com Tue Jan 30 23:18:20 2007 From: kenny.pitt at gmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:18:20 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Bayes will not remove In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2a052b990701301418y3494a25bmf8a14a70200e28f5@mail.gmail.com> On 1/30/07, Greg Coleman wrote: > > I have un-installed Spam Bayes yet it still appears in Outlook (although > I don't think it is working). How do I remove this little app from Outlook > completely? (Company orders) > Maybe question 3.16 in the SpamBayes FAQ will help: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html -- Kenny Pitt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20070130/75ad52e3/attachment.htm From nick at nextlevella.com Tue Jan 30 23:45:03 2007 From: nick at nextlevella.com (Nick Crefasi) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:45:03 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Clues: MyFax Delivery from NA In-Reply-To: <2a052b990701301415o46acf863u93f755a1f92415ad@mail.gmail.com> References: <8A1807313D905A4D9D2BC330EED4B4F4058B20@nlserver.nextlevella.local> <17855.39690.465661.359932@montanaro.dyndns.org> <2a052b990701301415o46acf863u93f755a1f92415ad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8A1807313D905A4D9D2BC330EED4B4F4058B44@nlserver.nextlevella.local> I added the address to the valid senders in Outlook and it is working fine. Thanks Nick Crefasi, CPA NextLevel Information Solutions 3145 Shadows Lake Drive Baton Rouge, LA 70816 www.nextlevelis.com Telephone: 225-753-4805 Fax: 866-528-4945 Mobile: 225-603-8499 Best Software's Presidents Circle Member Top 100 VAR's - Accounting Technology Magazine Technology Pacesetter - Accounting Technology Magazine Worldly Reseller - Accounting Technology Magazine ACCPAC's President Choice Dealer of the Year 1996-2005 Premier Business Partner -----Original Message----- From: Kenny Pitt [mailto:kenny.pitt at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 4:16 PM To: skip at pobox.com Cc: Nick Crefasi; spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Spam Clues: MyFax Delivery from NA On 1/30/07, skip at pobox.com wrote: > > Nick> the item below continues to get thrown into my spam folder > Nick> regardless of the number of times I have recovered it. > ... > Nick> Combined Score: 0% (5.55112e-017) > > Nick> Internal ham score (*H*): 1 > Nick> Internal spam score (*S*): 1.11022e-016 > > SpamBayes thinks it's okay. You might want to check your Outlook filters. Also, did you generate these spam clues before or after you trained this specific message? If you generate the clues after training then you will always get a near-zero spam percentage. It is important to look at the spam clues before you train if SpamBayes was, in fact, the one that put the message into the spam folder. If you are using SpamBayes in conjunction with the Outlook junk mail filter and you continue to have problems, you could disable the Outlook filter (SpamBayes will likely be just as effective on its own) or you could configure SpamBayes to use a different spam folder to make it easy to see which filter flagged the message as spam. BTW, what version of the SpamBayes plugin are you running? -- Kenny Pitt From amedee at amedee.be Tue Jan 30 23:53:54 2007 From: amedee at amedee.be (Amedee Van Gasse) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 23:53:54 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Clues: MyFax Delivery from NA In-Reply-To: <8A1807313D905A4D9D2BC330EED4B4F4058B44@nlserver.nextlevella.local> References: <8A1807313D905A4D9D2BC330EED4B4F4058B20@nlserver.nextlevella.local> <17855.39690.465661.359932@montanaro.dyndns.org> <2a052b990701301415o46acf863u93f755a1f92415ad@mail.gmail.com> <8A1807313D905A4D9D2BC330EED4B4F4058B44@nlserver.nextlevella.local> Message-ID: <1170197634.8481.83.camel@localhost> Op dinsdag 30-01-2007 om 16:45 uur [tijdzone -0600], schreef Nick Crefasi: > I added the address to the valid senders in Outlook and it is working > fine. Conclusion: the problem was Outlook, not Spambayes. Skip and Kenny guessed right. -- Amedee From nick at nextlevella.com Wed Jan 31 00:12:43 2007 From: nick at nextlevella.com (Nick Crefasi) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:12:43 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Clues: MyFax Delivery from NA In-Reply-To: <1170197634.8481.83.camel@localhost> References: <8A1807313D905A4D9D2BC330EED4B4F4058B20@nlserver.nextlevella.local> <17855.39690.465661.359932@montanaro.dyndns.org> <2a052b990701301415o46acf863u93f755a1f92415ad@mail.gmail.com> <8A1807313D905A4D9D2BC330EED4B4F4058B44@nlserver.nextlevella.local> <1170197634.8481.83.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <8A1807313D905A4D9D2BC330EED4B4F4058B45@nlserver.nextlevella.local> That is correct. Thanks for the help. Nick Crefasi, CPA NextLevel Information Solutions 3145 Shadows Lake Drive Baton Rouge, LA 70816 www.nextlevelis.com Telephone: 225-753-4805 Fax: 866-528-4945 Mobile: 225-603-8499 Best Software's Presidents Circle Member Top 100 VAR's - Accounting Technology Magazine Technology Pacesetter - Accounting Technology Magazine Worldly Reseller - Accounting Technology Magazine ACCPAC's President Choice Dealer of the Year 1996-2005 Premier Business Partner -----Original Message----- From: Amedee Van Gasse [mailto:amedee at amedee.be] Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 4:54 PM To: Nick Crefasi Cc: Kenny Pitt; skip at pobox.com; spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Spam Clues: MyFax Delivery from NA Op dinsdag 30-01-2007 om 16:45 uur [tijdzone -0600], schreef Nick Crefasi: > I added the address to the valid senders in Outlook and it is working > fine. Conclusion: the problem was Outlook, not Spambayes. Skip and Kenny guessed right. -- Amedee