From gabriela at babeland.com Tue Nov 1 01:34:52 2005 From: gabriela at babeland.com (gabriela@babeland.com) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 19:34:52 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes not loading Message-ID: <1130805292.4366b82c218e7@mail.babeland.com> Hi!! I have been reading the spambayes documentation and I don't find what is the problem. I installed spambayes on a suse machine where I already have getmail and otrs. It is supposed that getmail fetch the mails and send them to different otrs queues. I want to configure spambayes in the middle to filter spam... I have spambayes 1.1a1. When I run sb_server.py in verbose mode says: ... placing 1130460062-2 in corpus cache Flushing 1130459737 from corpus cache ... and it refuses to connect to the localhost:8880 for configuration. Whatever idea can be helpfull. Thanks, Gabriela From members at ebays.com Wed Nov 2 14:20:07 2005 From: members at ebays.com (EBAY FIP: eBay Member Services) Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 05:20:07 -0800 Subject: [Spambayes] FIP EBAY: Member Action Required Message-ID: <20051101094803.07E3E1E4009@bag.python.org> Dear eBay Member, You have not yet verified your eBay account. On Oct 20, 2005 we sent you an email to notify you that you must provide account verification to continue to be a part of eBay. This is needed to protect the integrity of your account Section 9 of the eBay User agreement states that we may suspend or cancel a users trading privileges if the account contains: False or missing contact information - Falsifying or omitting your name, address, and/or telephone number (including use of fax machines, pager numbers, modems or disconnected numbers). Please confirm that your registration details are correct by logging in to eBay and confirming your details. . login here http://www.ebay.com./memberservices/verifylogin/mem=23354477688 All members are required to confirm their data in a timely manner Regards, Safeharbor Department eBay Inc. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051102/00a8782d/attachment.htm From jennifer.passial at pc-ware.nl Wed Nov 2 09:43:21 2005 From: jennifer.passial at pc-ware.nl (Passial, Jennifer) Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 09:43:21 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Message-ID: Goodmorning, We have searched on your site because we are interested in your product but we can not find any link where they can tell me something about a price. It is about Spambayes. We are a reseller and we have a lot of clients all over the Benelux. Can you please send me a price (reseller) list so we can offer your product to our clients. I look forward to your fast reply! Kind regards, PC-WARE Information Technologies BV Jennifer Passial Backoffice Medewerker Gyroscoopweg 80 1042 AC Amsterdam * E-mail: jennifer.passial at pc-ware.nl * Phone: +31 20 711 48 00 * Phone direct: +31 20 711 48 34 * Fax: +31 20 613 81 16 * Website: www.pc-ware.nl ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------- The information transmitted in this email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Use of this information by others than the addressee and those entitled to this information is prohibited. Disclosure, publication, distribution and/or supplying of this information to third parties, is not allowed. In case you are not entitled to take notice of the information in this message please notify the sender and delete the message. PC-Ware Information Technologies BV is neither liable for the proper and complete transmission of the information contained in this communication nor for any delay in its receipt. PC-Ware Information Technologies BV cannot be held responsible for any damage resulting from accepting this email. No rights can be derived from this message. On this email the general conditions of PC-Ware Information Technologies BV apply. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051102/0d473914/attachment.htm From jsp at PKC.com Wed Nov 2 17:32:27 2005 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 11:32:27 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F901D044C6@PKCVT01.pkc.com> SpamBayes is a freely available open source program (see http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#what-is-the-license-how-much-d oes-it-cost-can-i-pay-anyway). You can certainly try to sell it (subject to the terms of the license), though you'll probably have better luck if you enhance its value in some way. Some possibilities: bundling support beyond what is freely available, or enhancing the product itself, as others have done (see http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/related.html). ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Passial, Jennifer Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 3:43 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Goodmorning, We have searched on your site because we are interested in your product but we can not find any link where they can tell me something about a price. It is about Spambayes. We are a reseller and we have a lot of clients all over the Benelux. Can you please send me a price (reseller) list so we can offer your product to our clients. I look forward to your fast reply! Kind regards, PC-WARE Information Technologies BV Jennifer Passial Backoffice Medewerker Gyroscoopweg 80 1042 AC Amsterdam * E-mail: jennifer.passial at pc-ware.nl * Phone: +31 20 711 48 00 * Phone direct: +31 20 711 48 34 * Fax: +31 20 613 81 16 * Website: www.pc-ware.nl ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------- The information transmitted in this email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Use of this information by others than the addressee and those entitled to this information is prohibited. Disclosure, publication, distribution and/or supplying of this information to third parties, is not allowed. In case you are not entitled to take notice of the information in this message please notify the sender and delete the message. 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Message-ID: <200511021640.jA2GeCB4003012@ms-smtp-05-eri0.texas.rr.com> Dear wonderful wizards at SpamBayes- I am using Windows XP and Microsoft Office 2003 version of Outlook and wondered if there is a way to use the software to filter spam on the pop3 server before a spam email reached my blackberry. Please let me know. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051102/19ba7e4f/attachment.html From jsp at PKC.com Wed Nov 2 18:54:27 2005 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 12:54:27 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes to protect Blackberry emails too? Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F901D044CB@PKCVT01.pkc.com> I did a Google search for "spambayes blackberry" and found the following: http://www.slivka.com/Tips/ describes a registry setting that sounds like it might help, but editing the registry is not for the faint of heart. http://www.entrian.com/sbwiki/SpamBayesBlackBerry (the SpamBayes wiki) has a more complex but possibly less frightening approach. InBoxer, which is a commercial product based on SpamBayes, claims Blackberry support, but it's not clear whether that's an add-on. If none of those help, post again! (Maybe a wonderful wizard will have some thing more useful to say; I'm just an appreciative apprentice.) ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Jennifer Devening Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 11:40 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes to protect Blackberry emails too? Dear wonderful wizards at SpamBayes- I am using Windows XP and Microsoft Office 2003 version of Outlook and wondered if there is a way to use the software to filter spam on the pop3 server before a spam email reached my blackberry. Please let me know. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051102/41260a88/attachment.html From lisaz at speakeasy.net Wed Nov 2 03:08:20 2005 From: lisaz at speakeasy.net (Lisa Z) Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 21:08:20 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] possible spam problem Message-ID: <20051102091513.06DDB1E4002@bag.python.org> I love your program, I have created a possible spam folder for e-mail that is not 90% sure it is spam but it sees like the folder disappears after I shut down and reboot. Is there something I am dong wrong? 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SpamBayes does a beautiful job of putting my e-mail into my Inbox, Junk Suspects, and Junk E-mail folders. I couldn't be happier. And the price is terrific ($0!?!). I must also admit that I get perverse joy at watching SpamBayes move the spam out of my Inbox and into the Spam folders. "Take that!" or "So you thought you could slip by, eh?" I say to myself. Keep up the great work! Happily, Martin Weiser mweiser at yzer.net Dallas, Texas -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051102/56680220/attachment.html From snuffy2 at gmail.com Wed Nov 2 23:47:03 2005 From: snuffy2 at gmail.com (Snuffy2) Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 17:47:03 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] "Blank" Emails clogging my inbox. Message-ID: <000301c5dfff$5975e400$2a64a8c0@Snuffy2Laptop> Over the past 2 weeks, I've been getting 12+ of these blank emails a day. Every one I mark as spam bumps the level a but higher, but they're not high enough to be automarked as spam (90% is my setting). I know there are very few tokens in the email, but is there anyway to force them up higher? Outlook can't seem to filter these emails either by using rules or their Junk Mail Rules. I'm using the Outlook Plugin 1.04 WinXP SP2 Combined Score: 84% (0.836593) Internal ham score (*H*): 0.109375 Internal spam score (*S*): 0.782562 # ham trained on: 4405 # spam trained on: 940 2 Significant Tokens token spamprob #ham #spam 'message-id:invalid' 0.702885 384 194 'to:none' 0.811493 116 107 Message Stream Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 20:52:23 +0000 (GMT) X-Comment: Sending client does not conform to RFC822 minimum requirements X-Comment: Date has been added by Maillennium Received: from 166-82-196-32.quickclick.ctc.net ([166.82.196.32]) by sccrmxc14.comcast.net (sccrmxc14) with SMTP id <20051102205220s14009r1nbe>; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 20:52:22 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [166.82.196.32] Received: from localhost.localdomain (166.82.196.32 [166.82.196.32]) by 63.240.76.26 with ESMTP id e44si51[7]qbe.2615.22.62.85.13.53; Wed, 02 Nov 2005 12:52:27 -0800 Message-ID: <198t2[3 All Message Tokens 11 unique tokens 'cc:none' 'content-type:text/plain' 'from:none' 'header:Date:1' 'header:Message-ID:1' 'header:Received:2' 'message-id:invalid' 'reply-to:none' 'sender:none' 'to:none' 'x-mailer:none' From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Nov 3 00:46:01 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 12:46:01 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] "Blank" Emails clogging my inbox. In-Reply-To: <000301c5dfff$5975e400$2a64a8c0@Snuffy2Laptop> References: <000301c5dfff$5975e400$2a64a8c0@Snuffy2Laptop> Message-ID: <82AF6C0D-99FC-4578-963F-C71B7502F807@ihug.co.nz> > Over the past 2 weeks, I've been getting 12+ of these blank emails a > day. Every one I mark as spam bumps the level a but higher, but > they're not > high enough to be automarked as spam (90% is my setting). Do you get any ham scoring as high as 80%? A well-trained classifier should be fine with having the spam threshold that low, which would mean that these would score high enough to be classed as spam. That would certainly be the easiest solution. > 2 Significant Tokens > token spamprob #ham #spam > 'message-id:invalid' 0.702885 384 194 > 'to:none' 0.811493 116 107 [...] > 11 unique tokens > > 'cc:none' > 'content-type:text/plain' > 'from:none' > 'header:Date:1' > 'header:Message-ID:1' > 'header:Received:2' > 'message-id:invalid' > 'reply-to:none' > 'sender:none' > 'to:none' > 'x-mailer:none' It seems a little odd that some of these are neutral clues (scoring between 0.4 and 0.6, and therefore not in the list). x-mailer, from, and to are all common headers, so I would have thought that their lack (i.e. the ":none" tokens) would have been a stronger spam clue. Do you get a lot of ham that also looks like this? > Message Stream > > Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 20:52:23 +0000 (GMT) > X-Comment: Sending client does not conform to RFC822 minimum > requirements > X-Comment: Date has been added by Maillennium > Received: from 166-82-196-32.quickclick.ctc.net ([166.82.196.32]) > by sccrmxc14.comcast.net (sccrmxc14) with SMTP > id <20051102205220s14009r1nbe>; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 20:52:22 +0000 > X-Originating-IP: [166.82.196.32] > Received: from localhost.localdomain (166.82.196.32 [166.82.196.32]) > by 63.240.76.26 with ESMTP id e44si51[7]qbe.2615.22.62.85.13.53; > Wed, 02 Nov 2005 12:52:27 -0800 > Message-ID: <198t2[3 You could try enabling a couple of tokenizing options to generate a few more tokens from these messages (although note that, unless you retrain from scratch, they'll only be neutral until you've trained messages that include them). To do this, you need to open up the "bayescustomize.ini" file (in your data directory - SpamBayes- >SpamBayes Manager->Advanced->Show Data Directory) in a text editor (e.g. notepad) and add these options like this: """ [Tokenizer] option1=value option2=value """ (without the quotes, and substituting the option names and values, as below). If you set the "basic_header_tokenize" option to "True", then a lot more header tokens will be generated (e.g. "X-Comment:Sending", "X- Comment:client", "X-Originating-IP:[166.82.196.32]"). This should help (assuming that these tokens don't equally appear in ham), but it might hurt other results (trying it out is the only way to know). A safer option might be to add the "X-Comment" and "X-Originating-IP" headers to the list of headers that should be tokenized in this way. To do that, you'll need to add a line that looks like: """ safe_headers:abuse-reports-to,date,errors-to,from,importance,in-reply- to,message-id,mime-version,organization,received,reply-to,return- path,subject,to,user-agent,x-abuse-info,x-complaints-to,x-face,x- comment,x-originating-ip """ (no quotes, all one line, and still under the "[Tokenizer]" heading). If you set the "mine_received_headers" option to "True", then more tokens will be generated from the "Received" headers, which might also help (if these come from the same place, which isn't somewhere ham comes from). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Nov 3 01:05:18 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 13:05:18 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] Removal of personal data from your web site In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > I have seen my e-mail (see it below)published on your web site > together with > my e-mail address. Unfortunately someone is using it for spamming and > sending e-mail with virus. > According to the italian law n. 196/2003 about privacy I ask You to > remove > my e-mail, my data and my e-mail address from Your server and web > site. [...] The SpamBayes mailing list is public and publicly archived, as clearly documented on the SpamBayes site (see ). The purpose of the archiving is to increase the availability of the knowledge represented by answers to questions, which can save greatly speed up the process of getting an answer. There is no feasible way to retract postings. Once you post to a public list, you've put your message into the public domain BY YOUR ACTION, regardless of any warnings attached to your message. No one does, can, or should remove this information from the internet. Note that any information on the web is nearly instantly duplicated in other places (for example, Google for the message of yours, and you will see it in many other places). If the public nature of postings bothers you, please consider whether a list that you would like to post to is public and/or archived before posting. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Thu Nov 3 13:58:32 2005 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 07:58:32 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] "Blank" Emails clogging my inbox. Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F50052434A1@SPIKE.city> I suspect your 90% cutoff is too high. I've been running at 75% for a long time, and I can't remember the last time I saw a false positive. I could probably drop it another 10 points without significant effect. Bob > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Snuffy2 > Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 5:47 PM > To: spambayes at python.org > Subject: [Spambayes] "Blank" Emails clogging my inbox. > > > Over the past 2 weeks, I've been getting 12+ of these > blank emails a day. Every one I mark as spam bumps the level > a but higher, but they're not high enough to be automarked as > spam (90% is my setting). I know there are very few tokens > in the email, but is there anyway to force them up higher? > Outlook can't seem to filter these emails either by using > rules or their Junk Mail Rules. > > I'm using the Outlook Plugin 1.04 > WinXP SP2 > > Combined Score: 84% (0.836593) > Internal ham score (*H*): 0.109375 > Internal spam score (*S*): 0.782562 > > # ham trained on: 4405 > # spam trained on: 940 > 2 Significant Tokens > token spamprob #ham #spam > 'message-id:invalid' 0.702885 384 194 > 'to:none' 0.811493 116 107 > Message Stream > > Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 20:52:23 +0000 (GMT) > X-Comment: Sending client does not conform to RFC822 minimum > requirements > X-Comment: Date has been added by Maillennium > Received: from 166-82-196-32.quickclick.ctc.net ([166.82.196.32]) > by sccrmxc14.comcast.net (sccrmxc14) with SMTP > id <20051102205220s14009r1nbe>; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 20:52:22 +0000 > X-Originating-IP: [166.82.196.32] > Received: from localhost.localdomain (166.82.196.32 [166.82.196.32]) > by 63.240.76.26 with ESMTP id e44si51[7]qbe.2615.22.62.85.13.53; > Wed, 02 Nov 2005 12:52:27 -0800 > Message-ID: <198t2[3 > > > All Message Tokens > 11 unique tokens > > 'cc:none' > 'content-type:text/plain' > 'from:none' > 'header:Date:1' > 'header:Message-ID:1' > 'header:Received:2' > 'message-id:invalid' > 'reply-to:none' > 'sender:none' > 'to:none' > 'x-mailer:none' > > _______________________________________________ > SpamBayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > From Rich at RBarger.com Thu Nov 3 18:18:39 2005 From: Rich at RBarger.com (Richard B Barger ABC APR) Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 11:18:39 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] "Blank" Emails clogging my inbox. References: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F50052434A1@SPIKE.city> Message-ID: <436A466F.ADF74206@RBarger.com> Perhaps no one should be as brave or foolhardy as me, but my Spam Cutoff is 0.39, and I never have a false positive -- and I've been running SpamBayes for 18 months. Because of odd circumstances, I get a huge volume of mail, so I think it's a pretty good test. Rich Barger --- "Coe, Bob" wrote: > I suspect your 90% cutoff is too high. I've been running at 75% for a long > time, and I can't remember the last time I saw a false positive. I could > probably drop it another 10 points without significant effect. > > Bob > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > Subject: [Spambayes] "Blank" Emails clogging my inbox. > > > > > > Over the past 2 weeks, I've been getting 12+ of these > > blank emails a day. Every one I mark as spam bumps the level > > a but higher, but they're not high enough to be automarked as > > spam (90% is my setting). I know there are very few tokens > > in the email, but is there anyway to force them up higher? > > Outlook can't seem to filter these emails either by using > > rules or their Junk Mail Rules. > > From eric.silver at sbcglobal.net Thu Nov 3 18:53:19 2005 From: eric.silver at sbcglobal.net (Eric A. Silver) Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 12:53:19 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] "Blank" Emails clogging my inbox. In-Reply-To: <436A466F.ADF74206@RBarger.com> Message-ID: <075d01c5e09f$79f4dec0$0200a8c0@ericsilv> I've got mine set to 90, and I get about 30 or 40 false positives every day, including every single message addressed to Spambayes. I retrain every week, sometimes twice a week. I retrained today, and fifteen minutes later had two false positives, both from senders that were in the Inbox and on my safe senders list. I have a separate folder called Spambayes and my outlook settings are set to take any message with Spambayes in the subject line and put it in the spambayes folder. Despite that, every message that contains Spambayes in the subject line ends up in the Junk folder. When I clear out my junk mail, and ensure that my inbox and junk mail folder each contain ham and spam, respectively, and then retrain, it doesn't take very long before I have false positives in my junk mail folder. Moving an item from junk to inbox by recovering it from Spam has no apparent effect on how Spambayes will treat similar mail in the future. (this includes my list of safe senders as well.) Always open to ideas, Eric A. Silver -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Richard B Barger ABC APR Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 12:19 PM To: SpamBayes mailing list Subject: Re: [Spambayes] "Blank" Emails clogging my inbox. Perhaps no one should be as brave or foolhardy as me, but my Spam Cutoff is 0.39, and I never have a false positive -- and I've been running SpamBayes for 18 months. Because of odd circumstances, I get a huge volume of mail, so I think it's a pretty good test. Rich Barger --- "Coe, Bob" wrote: > I suspect your 90% cutoff is too high. I've been running at 75% for a long > time, and I can't remember the last time I saw a false positive. I could > probably drop it another 10 points without significant effect. > > Bob > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > Subject: [Spambayes] "Blank" Emails clogging my inbox. > > > > > > Over the past 2 weeks, I've been getting 12+ of these > > blank emails a day. Every one I mark as spam bumps the level > > a but higher, but they're not high enough to be automarked as > > spam (90% is my setting). I know there are very few tokens > > in the email, but is there anyway to force them up higher? > > Outlook can't seem to filter these emails either by using > > rules or their Junk Mail Rules. > > _______________________________________________ SpamBayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From bob at san.rr.com Thu Nov 3 19:48:09 2005 From: bob at san.rr.com (Bob Youngquist) Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 10:48:09 -0800 Subject: [Spambayes] Inbox deletions Message-ID: <001701c5e0a7$23111710$ecf64b42@Pavilion> When I activate Spambayes, it automatically deletes all messages in my Inbox. They do not even appear as Deleted Items.? Thank you, Bob Youngquist bob at san.rr.com bob at satcomsource.com 1-858-597-0720 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051103/cff3c689/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Nov 4 00:44:41 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 12:44:41 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] Inbox deletions In-Reply-To: <001701c5e0a7$23111710$ecf64b42@Pavilion> References: <001701c5e0a7$23111710$ecf64b42@Pavilion> Message-ID: <0F66945A-F3D9-4B1E-970D-2CADF2DE4EF6@ihug.co.nz> > When I activate Spambayes, it automatically deletes all messages in > my Inbox. They do not even appear as Deleted Items?? Please see FAQ 3.12: =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Nov 4 00:47:30 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 12:47:30 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] "Blank" Emails clogging my inbox. In-Reply-To: <436A466F.ADF74206@RBarger.com> References: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F50052434A1@SPIKE.city> <436A466F.ADF74206@RBarger.com> Message-ID: <9DF1986E-C6F6-47F5-90FE-896328651F70@ihug.co.nz> > Perhaps no one should be as brave or foolhardy as me, but my Spam > Cutoff is > 0.39, and I never have a false positive -- and I've been running > SpamBayes > for 18 months. Note that there's a reasonably large risk in setting the threshold/ cutoff below 0.5. Messages that really don't look like anything that has been seen before (or look a lot like both ham and spam) will score around 0.5. So if you get mail from a new source, which is quite different from any other ham, then this could mean that it ends up being a false positive. (The ham/spam balance probably has a large effect on this, as well, I suppose). OTOH, if it works for you, then keep using it. I wouldn't recommend it to others, though. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Nov 4 01:12:44 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 13:12:44 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] R: Removal of personal data from your web site In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > The decision to make my e-mail public was your while answering me! > I didn't send an e-amil to the mailing list. Yes, you did. Mail to spambayes-dev at python.org (or spambayes at python.org) is to a mailing list. This is clearly stated on our website (http://spambayes.org/contact.html), and also in the documentation that is included with SpamBayes. > Read your answer to me to understand it before answering in the way > You did (read the part in capital letters and You will able to > understand). Other than the start of sentences and in "SpamBayes", there is no part in capital letters. > Please remove my data from Your site by entering the server and > deleting it. It should be very simple! I'll ask the intervention of > the Italian law. You'll find that Italian law does not prevent a New Zealander replying to a public message hosted on a United States machine. In any case, I have no access to any of the machines (mail.python.org, cache.google.com, archive.org or any others) that make these archives publicly available. Please read my reply - if there's something there that's unclear, I'm happy to expand on it. *You* posted a message to a public mailing list (spambayes-dev at python.org) - *you* made the message irrevocably public. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Nov 4 01:39:18 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 13:39:18 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] "Blank" Emails clogging my inbox. In-Reply-To: <075d01c5e09f$79f4dec0$0200a8c0@ericsilv> References: <075d01c5e09f$79f4dec0$0200a8c0@ericsilv> Message-ID: <6D383519-E7FA-4765-908C-6A49FD12F918@ihug.co.nz> > I've got mine set to 90, and I get about 30 or 40 false positives > every day, > including every single message addressed to Spambayes. Could you post the clues (SpamBayes->Show Spam Clues for this Message) for one of these? > I have a separate folder called Spambayes and my outlook settings > are set to > take any message with Spambayes in the subject line and put it in the > spambayes folder. Despite that, every message that contains > Spambayes in > the subject line ends up in the Junk folder. Are you positive that it's SpamBayes doing this and not Outlook? (i.e. do you have Outlook's junk mail filtering turned off?) SpamBayes should run after any Outlook rules, so (assuming you don't have SpamBayes set to filter the "SpamBayes" folder) shouldn't even know about any of these messages. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From ymingk at gmail.com Fri Nov 4 02:56:16 2005 From: ymingk at gmail.com (Sandra Kwan) Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 09:56:16 +0800 Subject: [Spambayes] Folder problem Message-ID: Hi, I am using outlook 2002 in winXP. I have read through the troubleshooting page and also looked into the bugs reported in the sourceForcge.net about similar topics ont the folder problem. I did find the related topics about cannot expand the folder and the answers were "the problem is fixed". So i tried ll the 4 version. This probelm is fixed in all the binary versions. But when i installed it from source, thie problems reoccurs. 1)I can't expand the folder lists. If i click "ok", "please select a child folder, top folder cannot be used". 2) if i create a new folder, i cannot rename it, and can't even cancell it or click "ok" Outlook hang as a result As i am trying to use the source as a basic of my project, i need to get the source code work. Would you kindly answer my questions? Is there any solution to this? the binary exe should come from the source code right? why they will produce different result? The binary version did produce a log file, but not the souce code one. P.S. i am using a chinese version of outlook. Thanks! Sandra -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051104/f2361ae9/attachment.htm From mhammond at skippinet.com.au Fri Nov 4 03:43:57 2005 From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond) Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 13:43:57 +1100 Subject: [Spambayes] Folder problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > So i tried ll the 4 version. This probelm is fixed in all the binary > versions. But when i installed it from source, thie problems reoccurs. I would guess that either your SpamBayes source or your pywin32 versions are out of date. > The binary version did produce a log file, but not the souce code one. If I recall correctly, the source code version writes all output to Pythonwin's "Trace Collector Debugging Tool" (from the "Tools" menu). Alternatively, execute the \python23\lib\site-packages\win32\lib\win32traceutil.py script in another Command Prompt window. Once you have done either of these you should see the trace messages for the source code version. I suspect you will see a traceback when clicking on the folder once you get this working. At least I *think* that is correct - I haven't verified by looking at the source. There is actually no good reason for this - it was just my preference while I was working on the plugin. It would probably be less confusing if both source and binary logged the same way. Hope this helps, Mark From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Nov 4 03:45:52 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 15:45:52 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes clues In-Reply-To: <003301c5e0e5$8613bbe0$0200a8c0@ericsilv> References: <003301c5e0e5$8613bbe0$0200a8c0@ericsilv> Message-ID: > Here's a case in point. This message had a score of 100% and ended > up in the Inbox in Outlook. Something has happened with Spambayes > so that it's not working as it once did. Should I give it a few > days to even out, or should I do an uninstall and reinstall? > Outlook Junk Mail Filtering is turned off. Since it scored 100%, SpamBayes is as certain as possible that this is spam, so it's not an issue with training or anything like that. Something is going wrong when SpamBayes tries to move this message to the spam folder. Does your log have any error messages in it? (SpamBayes->SpamBayes Manager->Advanced->Diagnostics->Show Log). If it's something simple like a problem with the selected folder, then there should be (although IIRC an error dialog should also then pop up). Is this a case of the reasonably common refresh problem, where messages are moved, but Outlook doesn't refresh the display? To check, leave these 100% messages in the Inbox, switch to another (any) folder, and then switch back to the Inbox. If the message is gone, then it is. (Another indicator would be that if you selected the message and clicked the "Delete as Spam" button, you'd get the "no filterable items are selected" error dialog). I recall that there have been other reports of this occurring, but not for some time, and I don't recall if there were any outstanding problems causing this that we knew of. If none of the above applies, then let us know and I'll do some more thorough investigation. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Nov 4 03:53:34 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 15:53:34 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] Folder problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: [Wow, it's Mark! ] >> The binary version did produce a log file, but not the souce code >> one. > > If I recall correctly, the source code version writes all output to > Pythonwin's "Trace Collector Debugging Tool" (from the "Tools" menu). > Alternatively, execute the > \python23\lib\site-packages\win32\lib\win32traceutil.py script in > another > Command Prompt window. Once you have done either of these you > should see > the trace messages for the source code version. I suspect you will > see a > traceback when clicking on the folder once you get this working. You do recall correctly; this is how logging works for the Outlook plug-in. > There is actually no good reason for this - it was just my > preference while > I was working on the plugin. It would probably be less confusing > if both > source and binary logged the same way. :) The source still has comments about switching to a "proper" logging system some day. It might be just that it's what I'm used to, but I prefer finding the 'log' in the trace collector to log files while I'm working on things (admittedly, not often these days), just as I prefer that sb_server.py outputs to stdout if run in a console rather than to the log files it otherwise uses. If you want a 'good' reason, then the best I can think of is that it's quicker to open the trace collector (assuming that one is working in PythonWin) than navigate all the way to the data directory. =Tony.Meyer From Tony.Meyer.1 at uni.massey.ac.nz Fri Nov 4 04:02:39 2005 From: Tony.Meyer.1 at uni.massey.ac.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 16:02:39 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] "Blank" Emails clogging my inbox. References: Message-ID: <1FE91FD5-D43D-4EA0-BEDE-1633DFED2BFE@uni.massey.ac.nz> > I checked my outlook settings to see if Junk filtering was turned > off, and > apparently it was on. How it got to be on is anybody's guess, > since this is > a locked computer and no one else has access to it, and of course, if > someone somehow managed to hack into it, it's highly unlikely that > this is > the one thing that they'd mess with. As it turns out the problem > has only > existed for the past two weeks, so somehow, in the past two weeks, > junk > filtering in Outlook got turned on. My guess would be either some sort of (Windows, Office) update either accidentally or deliberately switched it on, or some sort of invisible, automatic repair process did so (while fixing something else). > I've turned it off. Looking at the clues for a message that ended > up in the junk > folder, I'm guessing that this is the likely explanation. > Herewith the clues: (any further info you might offer will be greatly > appreciated. Thanks, Eric.) > > Combined Score: 0% (2.77556e-016) > Internal ham score (*H*): 1 > Internal spam score (*S*): 5.55112e-016 Yes, this scored 0% (well, 0.00000000000000277556), so should definitely not have been moved to the spam folder. > # ham trained on: 3316 > # spam trained on: 2 This is a problem, though, if it's still the case. The ham and spam counts should be roughly equal (5::1 or even 10::1 is probably ok, but not 1500::1), and you definitely want to have more than 2 spam messages trained. However, I presume this was simply the result of all the retraining you said you did. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From kzl5566 at citiz.net Fri Nov 4 16:36:21 2005 From: kzl5566 at citiz.net (Alex) Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 23:36:21 +0800 Subject: [Spambayes] Marketing for you Message-ID: <20051104153625.DA30F1E40CB@bag.python.org> Dear spambayes at python.org: We specialized in E-mail Marketing. 1. Targeted list We may provide targeted email list. We will customize the list according to your requirements. 2. Sending out Targeted Marketing for you We may send your email message to your target clients! We will customize your email list and send your message for you. * We offer BP web Hosting & mail server. Regards! 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Alex Marketing Team kezunli321 at yeah.net Bye: AlexNo at hotmail.com From hwest4 at cfl.rr.com Sat Nov 5 18:30:17 2005 From: hwest4 at cfl.rr.com (Butch) Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 12:30:17 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Main Menu Disappeared Message-ID: <000801c5e22e$98937220$6dd27646@cfl.rr.com> I've tried to find this answer in the FAQ and by scanning the SpamBayes Archives but had no luck. My apologies if it's already out there somewhere. After installing SpamBayes (Win Me, MS Outlook, SpamBayes 1.0.4) the main menu, (or what I'm calling the main menu; the bar at the top of all Windows software that lists "File - Edit - View - etc") has disappeared. I've tried the help and troubleshooting menus for both Outlook and Spambayes. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051105/5c86fac6/attachment.htm From FreeMJ at HotPop.com Sat Nov 5 21:38:58 2005 From: FreeMJ at HotPop.com (FreeMJ@HotPop.com) Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 12:38:58 -0800 Subject: [Spambayes] Inspecting images (was: SpamBayes toHandleEmbeddedImages) In-Reply-To: <20051025021825.079251A01B3@smtp-1.hotpop.com> Message-ID: <20051105203846.72EBF1A4F138@smtp-3.hotpop.com> Hi Tony, What's your general take on the Clues for this "Embedded Image Spam"? It appear that they've added a bunch of really good Ham words, and have successfully tricked the filter into classifying it as Ham (since it's blind to the text in the image). I'm getting about a dozen of these a day now, being classified as Ham in my Outlook inbox. Thanks, FMJ -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of FreeMJ at hotpop.com Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 7:18 PM To: 'Tony Meyer' Cc: spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Inspecting images (was: SpamBayes toHandleEmbeddedImages) Hi Tony, The problem is, they keep changing the meaningless text at the bottom of the e-mail all the time, to confuse the Spam filter. They're picking Hammy words. And, as you can see, it's a highly effective technique. In other words, NONE of the "Tokens" should actually be "Significant", it's the image that needs to be scored in this case. Here's the spambayes clues for one of the e-mails: Combined Score: 3% (0.0330173) Internal ham score (*H*): 0.999976 Internal spam score (*S*): 0.0660102 # ham trained on: 14237 # spam trained on: 20138 150 Significant Tokens token spamprob #ham #spam 'sender:no real name:2**0' 0.0277535 2187 88 'dismissed' 0.0374933 314 17 'raising' 0.0417704 313 19 'lives' 0.0580962 1012 88 'ill' 0.0613924 1084 100 'said' 0.0677803 6498 668 'two' 0.08226 5200 659 'put' 0.0828439 2632 336 'were' 0.0845653 6094 796 'recalled' 0.0862187 92 12 'town' 0.0883783 600 82 'being' 0.0894639 4312 599 'letter' 0.093344 1595 232 'unless' 0.0960663 687 103 'stephan' 0.0968154 15 2 'face' 0.0986506 1397 216 'who' 0.0991493 8031 1250 'knows' 0.102049 574 92 'anyone' 0.104976 1828 303 'them' 0.106325 4690 789 'think' 0.107446 3584 610 'keep' 0.109385 2517 437 'him' 0.111552 2631 467 'suspicions' 0.113796 40 7 'went' 0.11401 1331 242 'sound' 0.116592 596 111 'care' 0.117491 1244 234 'going' 0.119623 3503 673 'sort' 0.119677 511 98 'his' 0.119861 5717 1101 'remained' 0.11998 271 52 'heavily' 0.123551 232 46 'last' 0.126157 5241 1070 'subject:: ' 0.134951 9110 2010 'voice' 0.135891 644 143 'walk' 0.140296 339 78 'everyone' 0.140502 1225 283 'whatever' 0.141645 618 144 'overdosed' 0.142155 48 11 'mother' 0.144908 510 122 'way' 0.146154 3458 837 'was' 0.146612 8939 2172 'would' 0.146893 7679 1870 'but' 0.14865 8435 2083 'past' 0.155513 1932 503 'duty' 0.15756 326 86 'been' 0.158577 6937 1849 'away' 0.159247 1632 437 'soon' 0.16154 1021 278 'header:In-Reply-To:1' 0.162139 1791 490 'made' 0.163602 3467 959 'true' 0.164161 566 157 'too' 0.164462 2199 612 'then' 0.167186 3519 999 'road' 0.169212 459 132 'covington' 0.170591 18 5 'firmly' 0.171729 69 20 'received' 0.172468 1646 485 'yes' 0.17276 275 81 'other' 0.174723 6686 2002 'offered' 0.177462 702 214 'saw' 0.178119 738 226 'might' 0.184601 2399 768 'hotel' 0.185114 203 65 'thought' 0.186457 1287 417 'her' 0.187192 2831 922 'indeed' 0.18721 191 62 'lie' 0.188538 165 54 'filled' 0.188682 329 108 'assorted' 0.198662 32 11 'intent' 0.199592 596 210 'manner' 0.200765 192 68 'second' 0.203991 1311 475 'let' 0.207891 1835 681 'much' 0.210328 3345 1260 'back' 0.211425 3207 1216 'place' 0.214507 1704 658 'out' 0.216398 6503 2540 'little' 0.218176 2273 897 'within' 0.218497 1940 767 'occupied' 0.218989 56 22 'never' 0.222876 2224 902 'take' 0.223351 4101 1668 'subject:-' 0.223886 2564 1046 'find' 0.224822 2482 1018 'play' 0.230279 518 219 'skip:n 10' 0.233772 2561 1105 'eyes' 0.234231 294 127 'that' 0.245614 11155 5137 'thoughts' 0.250399 193 91 'observed' 0.252899 109 52 'not' 0.253605 9451 4542 'have' 0.260054 10350 5145 'myself' 0.268888 281 146 'with' 0.272839 10712 5685 'skip:r 10' 0.274264 4752 2540 'look' 0.276317 1963 1060 'can' 0.286752 7254 4125 'guided' 0.29442 24 14 'all' 0.300499 8283 5033 'resign' 0.304561 39 24 'contracts' 0.313223 163 105 'subject:Alert' 0.322897 61 41 'upon' 0.326586 853 585 'skip:i 10' 0.332672 4717 3326 'for' 0.339583 12494 9087 'topics' 0.371008 114 95 'the' 0.371613 13338 11157 'above' 0.380529 678 589 'header:Return-Path:1' 0.635635 6219 15346 'consults' 0.695316 3 10 'comparative' 0.728703 17 65 'earnest' 0.747547 24 101 'friendship' 0.796906 6 34 'blush' 0.797234 13 73 'skip:7 70' 0.805302 5 30 'expedition' 0.825248 9 61 'from:addr:g.wcvbss' 0.844828 0 1 'from:addr:netnitco.net' 0.844828 0 1 'from:name:raymond goins' 0.844828 0 1 'lensalizarin' 0.844828 0 1 "m'scorset" 0.844828 0 1 'message-id:@icsp.net' 0.844828 0 1 'ownthat' 0.844828 0 1 'prominents' 0.844828 0 1 'roadsthat' 0.844828 0 1 'sender:addr:athenet.net' 0.844828 0 1 'sender:addr:h.nnq' 0.844828 0 1 'subject:< ' 0.844828 0 1 'subject:Stiles' 0.844828 0 1 'totrue' 0.844828 0 1 'virus:src="cid:' 0.888282 111 1250 'congenial' 0.905802 5 70 'taters' 0.907976 1 16 'skip:7 90' 0.908163 0 2 'header:Received:2' 0.914966 886 13487 'diem' 0.92631 3 56 'subject:CBXC' 0.949438 0 4 'rotund' 0.952904 1 33 'blushingly' 0.958716 0 5 'refolding' 0.969799 0 7 'egress' 0.970088 1 53 'to:name:freemj' 0.988432 0 19 'septennial' 0.990405 0 23 'veal' 0.993066 0 32 'youll' 0.993469 0 34 'subject:Stock' 0.99571 0 52 'casteth' 0.995868 0 54 'cutlet' 0.996894 0 72 'to:addr:hotpop.com' 0.997792 23 14803 Message Stream Return-Path: Received: from 38.113.3.52 (unknown [200.107.173.172]) by mx1.hotpop.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 5B8A0E8304; 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All Message Tokens 187 unique tokens 'above' 'all' 'and' 'anyone' 'arose' 'arrange' 'assorted' 'away' 'back' 'been' 'being' 'bind' 'blush' 'blushingly' 'but' 'can' 'care' 'casteth' 'cc:none' 'china' 'commanded' 'comparative' 'congenial' 'consults' 'content-type:text/plain' 'contracts' 'covington' 'cutlet' 'deepest' 'diem' 'dismissed' 'duty' 'earnest' 'egress' 'everyone' 'expedition' 'eyes' 'face' 'faint' 'filled' 'find' 'firmly' 'for' 'friendship' 'from:addr:g.wcvbss' 'from:addr:netnitco.net' 'from:name:raymond goins' 'going' 'guided' 'have' 'header:Date:1' 'header:From:1' 'header:In-Reply-To:1' 'header:MIME-Version:1' 'header:Message-Id:1' 'header:Received:2' 'header:Return-Path:1' 'header:Subject:1' 'header:To:1' 'heavily' 'her' 'him' 'his' 'hotel' 'hovering' 'ill' 'indeed' 'intent' 'keep' 'knows' 'last' 'lensalizarin' 'let' 'letter' 'lie' 'little' 'lives' 'look' "m'scorset" 'made' 'manner' 'message-id:@icsp.net' 'might' 'mother' 'mouldy' 'much' 'myself' 'never' 'not' 'observed' 'occupied' 'offered' 'order' 'other' 'our' 'out' 'overdosed' 'ownthat' 'past' 'place' 'play' 'potatoes' 'prominents' 'purse' 'put' 'raising' 'recalled' 'received' 'refolding' 'remained' 'reply-to:none' 'resign' 'road' 'roadsthat' 'rosanne' 'rotund' 'said' 'saw' 'second' 'seldom' 'sender:addr:athenet.net' 'sender:addr:h.nnq' 'sender:no real name:2**0' 'septennial' 'shall' 'skip:7 70' 'skip:7 90' 'skip:b 10' 'skip:e 10' 'skip:i 10' 'skip:n 10' 'skip:r 10' 'soon' 'sort' 'sound' 'stephan' 'subject: ' 'subject: - ' 'subject:-' 'subject:: ' 'subject:< ' 'subject:Alert' 'subject:CBXC' 'subject:Fwd' 'subject:Neil' 'subject:Stiles' 'subject:Stock' 'suspicions' 'take' 'taters' 'that' 'the' 'them' 'then' 'think' 'thought' 'thoughts' 'to:2**0' 'to:addr:freemj' 'to:addr:hotpop.com' 'to:name:freemj' 'too' 'topics' 'totrue' 'town' 'triumph' 'true' 'two' 'unless' 'upon' 'veal' 'virus:src="cid:' 'voice' 'walk' 'was' 'way' 'went' 'were' 'whatever' 'who' 'with' 'within' 'would' 'x-mailer:none' 'yes' 'you' 'youll' -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Tony Meyer Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 9:43 PM To: Cc: spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Inspecting images (was: SpamBayes to HandleEmbeddedImages) > Something really needs to be done about this embedded image Spam. > Honestly, > SpamBayes appears to be ineffective against all these images, Can you post an example of a message that is incorrectly classified, *with the spambayes clues* for the message? The Outlook plug-in provides this via the "Show Clues for this Message" item in the SpamBayes menu. [...] > I'm sure OCR isn't the only way, but the words are there in plain > view. It > seems like the obvious way to resolve this. Obvious isn't always best. One of the tenets here is "stupid beats smart" - I think doing some sort of OCR on images would fall into the "smart" category, and generating simple tokens from the images would fall into the "stupid" category and be more successful. Just my opinion, of course, but that's what I'd test if I had time (perhaps over the (southern hemisphere) summer...or maybe I can convince one of my employers that this would be worth doing in paid time). > SpamBayes has been such a great program for me and my colleges, > family and > friends. I can only hope that the project sees fit to resolve this > soon. It's not really a case of "seeing fit" - the issue is that the developers are very short on time at the moment (contributions have always been, and always will be, welcome) and, in addition, this is a complex problem. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. _______________________________________________ SpamBayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html _______________________________________________ SpamBayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From rog_21 at yahoo.com Sun Nov 6 03:42:42 2005 From: rog_21 at yahoo.com (Roger R. Smith) Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 18:42:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spambayes] feature Message-ID: <20051106024242.35978.qmail@web61011.mail.yahoo.com> Very cool stuff. What are some of the features you guys use in your classifier? Thanks, Rog From Akagrma2 at aol.com Sun Nov 6 04:48:54 2005 From: Akagrma2 at aol.com (Akagrma2@aol.com) Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 22:48:54 EST Subject: [Spambayes] Retrieve a deleted/noted SPAM email Message-ID: <20f.da2a408.309ed726@aol.com> Subject and website address: www.legalzoon.com/Brent. Received 10/4/05 and deleted 10/4/05 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051105/22673410/attachment.htm From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Nov 6 05:20:23 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 17:20:23 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] Retrieve a deleted/noted SPAM email In-Reply-To: <20f.da2a408.309ed726@aol.com> References: <20f.da2a408.309ed726@aol.com> Message-ID: <07DF350C-C45D-4F5F-A7ED-E431CFE41535@ihug.co.nz> Which SpamBayes application are you using? It doesn't appear that you're using Outlook, so the most likely is sb_server (the POP3 proxy). If this is the case, then all that SpamBayes does is mark messages as ham/unsure/spam. Check the rules in your mail client to see what it is set up to do with spam, and you'll be able to find the message. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Nov 6 05:21:26 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 17:21:26 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] feature In-Reply-To: <20051106024242.35978.qmail@web61011.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20051106024242.35978.qmail@web61011.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <42772BE3-6604-48EE-BA0F-C08F76B4CB19@ihug.co.nz> > What are some of the features you guys use in your > classifier? A good place to start is: . Let us know if you have specific questions. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From jsp at PKC.com Mon Nov 7 16:03:24 2005 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 10:03:24 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Main Menu Disappeared Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F901D044EC@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Very interesting! The Outlook documentation says that while you can add and remove toolbars, you cannot remove the main menu. However, it turns out that it is possible to move it around by clicking on its left end and dragging it around. You can drag it below a toolbar or to any edge of the main window. You can even detach it from the Outlook window, so it's in its own window. You might want to look around and see if it somehow got moved. On my machine, the menu is always on top of the main window when it's detached, but you might want to move the main window around just in case the menu is detached and hidden behind the main window. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Butch Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 12:30 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Main Menu Disappeared I've tried to find this answer in the FAQ and by scanning the SpamBayes Archives but had no luck. My apologies if it's already out there somewhere. After installing SpamBayes (Win Me, MS Outlook, SpamBayes 1.0.4) the main menu, (or what I'm calling the main menu; the bar at the top of all Windows software that lists "File - Edit - View - etc") has disappeared. I've tried the help and troubleshooting menus for both Outlook and Spambayes. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051107/83002da2/attachment.htm From juliopetrement at wanadoo.es Mon Nov 7 20:00:12 2005 From: juliopetrement at wanadoo.es (julio petrement) Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 20:00:12 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Error-Guard Support Request Message-ID: <000401c5e3cd$84677260$07e16750@juliopetrement> Debido a un problema he tenido que formatear l disco,no encuentre su anterior pagina web para recuperar el programa. Mi contrase?a de entrada es LY351G12. Les ruego me envien informacion.Graciaz.Dr Petrement -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051107/16464082/attachment.htm From sethg at GoodmanAssociates.com Mon Nov 7 23:04:08 2005 From: sethg at GoodmanAssociates.com (Seth Goodman) Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 16:04:08 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] here's a really tough one, but at least it scored unsure! 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I've got to hand it to these folks for deviousness. Looks like it came through a trojaned dynamic IP machine in Mexico. And the results... Combined Score: 35% (0.346216) Internal ham score (*H*): 0.624471 Internal spam score (*S*): 0.316903 # ham trained on: 2070 # spam trained on: 1966 3 Significant Tokens token spamprob #ham #spam 'subject:useful' 0.155172 1 0 'data' 0.342773 85 42 'header:Received:2' 0.750408 183 523 All Message Tokens 35 unique tokens '$69,95' '$85,45' '$99,95' 'cc:none' 'content-type:text/plain' 'data' 'extra' 'from:addr:ccpc.net' 'from:addr:sagqtho' 'from:name:thorborg sager' 'header:Date:1' 'header:From:1' 'header:MIME-Version:1' 'header:Message-ID:1' 'header:Received:2' 'header:Return-Path:1' 'header:Subject:1' 'header:To:1' 'message-id:@unburden' 'proto:http' 'reply-to:none' 'sender:none' 'subject: ' 'subject:: ' 'subject:Darrells' 'subject:information' 'subject:useful' 'to:2**0' 'to:addr:goodmanassociates.com' 'to:addr:sethg' 'to:name:worknesh kasahara' 'url:armelaurofishruner' 'url:com' 'url:tripod' 'x-mailer:microsoft outlook express 6.00.2800.1106' Very few real tokens, as you'd guess. Good enough for me at 35%, though there were only three significant tokens. -- Seth Goodman From booth781 at msn.com Tue Nov 8 06:40:23 2005 From: booth781 at msn.com (Mikr) Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 21:40:23 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Subject: [Spambayes] MSN Email Message-ID: Hi, How do I configure MSN email? Mike -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051107/4d4916a5/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 8868 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051107/4d4916a5/attachment.gif From booth781 at msn.com Tue Nov 8 06:45:01 2005 From: booth781 at msn.com (Mikr) Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 21:45:01 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Subject: [Spambayes] MSN Email Message-ID: Hi, Can you configure for MSN Email? 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Jorge Aulestia Market Analyst SupplyPro, Inc. 9260 Trade Place San Diego, CA 92126 P. 858-587-6435 F. 858-552-7609 http://www.supplypro.com SupplyPro--the premier provider of automated point-of-use dispensing technologies to track assets, control inventory, and manage supply chain information. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051108/07b5c36a/attachment.html From jsp at PKC.com Tue Nov 8 20:57:49 2005 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 14:57:49 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Love Spambayes, but I wonder if Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F901D044F9@PKCVT01.pkc.com> See http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#can-i-share-move-my-training-d ata-from-one-computer-to-another for how to do this. But there's a price for that answer: I'm going to give you my opinion as well. I wouldn't bother copying the training data. SpamBayes learns very quickly, and the character of the spam I receive changes over time, so I rather than hanging on to training data, I delete it and retrain from scratch periodically. Within a day or two I find I'm getting better results. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Jorge Aulestia Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 1:35 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Love Spambayes, but I wonder if I wonder if I can export the training that I've accumulated on one machine, into another (my home pc) My home pc crashed and I had to reinstall everything. I lost all the training I had build up over months and months of use on that machine. My work pc has run Spambayes for about the same time. Any suggestions on how to do this is greatly appreciated (I suppose it is not just a matter of copying the .db files, Is it?) THANKS! Jorge Aulestia Market Analyst SupplyPro, Inc. 9260 Trade Place San Diego, CA 92126 P. 858-587-6435 F. 858-552-7609 http://www.supplypro.com SupplyPro--the premier provider of automated point-of-use dispensing technologies to track assets, control inventory, and manage supply chain information. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051108/2ba8345c/attachment.htm From rjf at russfoster.com Tue Nov 8 22:43:45 2005 From: rjf at russfoster.com (Russ Foster) Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 15:43:45 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Spambayes] Love Spambayes, but I wonder if In-Reply-To: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F901D044F9@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Message-ID: I've start experimenting with Spambayes a bit more on my home Linux machine. I have two directories: TrainSpam and TrainHam I put false positives/negatives and unsures in the appropriate directory. Every 5 minutes a cron job trains on those directories. Once a day, another cron job: - purges anything in these two directories that is older than 7 days. - moves my existing 'hammiedb' file - creates a new 'hammiedb' file - forces a re-training on the TrainSpam and TrainHam directories While I don't have anything quantitative, my amount of false negatives and false postives seems to be drastically reduced. This script has the effect of only keeping words in the database that have been seen in the past 7 days. Accounting, somewhat, for the change in the character of spam (and ham). Maybe once a day is overkill...but right now my system has cycles to spare. -r On Tue, 8 Nov 2005, Jesse Pelton wrote: > See > http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#can-i-share-move-my-training-d > ata-from-one-computer-to-another for how to do this. > > But there's a price for that answer: I'm going to give you my opinion as > well. I wouldn't bother copying the training data. SpamBayes learns very > quickly, and the character of the spam I receive changes over time, so I > rather than hanging on to training data, I delete it and retrain from > scratch periodically. Within a day or two I find I'm getting better > results. > > From Debra.Concidine at state.or.us Tue Nov 8 23:48:39 2005 From: Debra.Concidine at state.or.us (Debra CONCIDINE) Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 14:48:39 -0800 Subject: [Spambayes] question Message-ID: Hi, I have had some rather strange things happening to my Outlook Express since starting spambayes and I was hoping someone could help me with it. I was able to download and start spambayes a few weeks ago. The first few days were great - I was training ham and spam and everything was going well. About the fifth day, I started receiving an error message when I opened Outlook Express stating that it was unable to open due to a pop3 error. I would close Outlook and try again and the message went away. I don't have the exact wording because I only received the message twice. Then I started receiving the following message "Your server has unexpectedly terminated the connection. Possible causes for this include server problems, network problems or a long period of inactivity. Socket error: 10053, error number 0 x800 CCC0f". This was so weird because you could still browse the web, so clearly the connection had not terminated. Through trial and error we learned that if you opened webmail first, then Outlook, we were able to get to our email. That worked for awhile, but then something else happened. Now when we open webmail first, then Outlook, we wait forever while it goes through "receiving messages". Then a message comes up that says "A time out occurred while communicating with the server account peoplepc online server. Localhost protocol pop3, port:110 secure SSL: no error number 0x800ccc19". Sometimes if we toggle back and forth between webmail and Outlook we can finally get Outlook open, then open spambayes and start training. Needless to say, this has become very tedious and tiresome. Sometimes it take s several tries just to get Outlook open. I'm about ready to remove spambayes and start over with some other anti-spam program, but I wanted to know if there is anything I can do. Please help. Debbie Concidine Debbie Concidine Seniors and People with Disabilities Office of Licensing & Quality of Care 500 Summer St. NE, E-13 Salem, OR 97301 503-947-5333 Fax 503-378-8966 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks David ---------------------------------------------------------------- Return-Path: Delivery-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 11:57:52 -0500 Received: from [212.160.238.140] (helo=localhost) by mx.perfora.net (node=mxus3) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKvAI-1EZWnA0b8M-0002Wn for david at dburroughs.com; Tue, 08 Nov 2005 11:57:52 -0500 Message-ID: <000001c5e485$112ef300$0100007f at localhost> From: "Kai Gray" To: Subject: Need Software? Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 16:57:52 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C5E485.112EF300" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Envelope-To: david at dburroughs.com X-Spambayes-Exception: Traceback (most recent call last): . File "sb_server.pyc", line 564, in onRetr . File "spambayes\message.pyc", line 452, in addSBHeaders . File "spambayes\message.pyc", line 401, in RememberClassification . 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I wonder if there's an appropriate place for this in the wiki? > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Russ Foster > Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 4:44 PM > To: SpamBayes List > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Love Spambayes, but I wonder if > > > I've start experimenting with Spambayes a bit more on my home Linux > machine. > > I have two directories: TrainSpam and TrainHam > > I put false positives/negatives and unsures in the > appropriate directory. > Every 5 minutes a cron job trains on those directories. > > Once a day, another cron job: > > - purges anything in these two directories that is older than 7 days. > > - moves my existing 'hammiedb' file > > - creates a new 'hammiedb' file > > - forces a re-training on the TrainSpam and TrainHam directories > > While I don't have anything quantitative, my amount of false > negatives and > false postives seems to be drastically reduced. > > This script has the effect of only keeping words in the > database that have > been seen in the past 7 days. Accounting, somewhat, for the > change in the > character of spam (and ham). > > Maybe once a day is overkill...but right now my system has cycles to > spare. > > -r > > > > On Tue, 8 Nov 2005, Jesse Pelton wrote: > > > See > > > http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#can-i-share-move-my- > training-d > > ata-from-one-computer-to-another for how to do this. > > > > But there's a price for that answer: I'm going to give you > my opinion as > > well. I wouldn't bother copying the training data. > SpamBayes learns very > > quickly, and the character of the spam I receive changes > over time, so I > > rather than hanging on to training data, I delete it and > retrain from > > scratch periodically. Within a day or two I find I'm getting better > > results. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SpamBayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > From tdickenson at devmail.geminidataloggers.co.uk Wed Nov 9 14:34:45 2005 From: tdickenson at devmail.geminidataloggers.co.uk (Toby Dickenson) Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 13:34:45 +0000 Subject: [Spambayes] Love Spambayes, but I wonder if In-Reply-To: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F901D044FE@PKCVT01.pkc.com> References: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F901D044FE@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Message-ID: <200511091334.45821.tdickenson@devmail.geminidataloggers.co.uk> On Wednesday 09 November 2005 13:21, Jesse Pelton wrote: > Interesting! I wonder if there's an appropriate place for this in the > wiki? The retraining schedule is fairly similar to my kmail setup which I documented here http://www.tarind.com/kmailsb.html . The main difference is that I train directly out of the mailboxes maintained by my mail client. -- Toby Dickenson From storytime at zol.co.zw Wed Nov 9 22:38:57 2005 From: storytime at zol.co.zw (Joyce Jenje-Makwenda) Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 21:38:57 -0000 Subject: [Spambayes] Error-Guard Support Request Message-ID: <00c301c5e575$fe2ddcc0$b8deffd5@DCMZ381J> Will pay through the UK, will ask my sister to do it for me. Thank you -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051109/bb457e65/attachment-0001.htm From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Nov 9 21:07:53 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:07:53 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] Error-Guard Support Request In-Reply-To: <00c301c5e575$fe2ddcc0$b8deffd5@DCMZ381J> References: <00c301c5e575$fe2ddcc0$b8deffd5@DCMZ381J> Message-ID: > Will pay through the UK, will ask my sister to do it for me. Thank you Sorry, you've emailed a mailing list for discussion about/help with the open-source spam filter SpamBayes (http://spambayes.org). I've never heard of "Error-Guard", and we certainly don't have anything to do with supporting such a product. Why did you choose to email this address? =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From leo at jsp.cc Wed Nov 9 22:17:42 2005 From: leo at jsp.cc (Leo Esch) Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 13:17:42 -0800 Subject: [Spambayes] allowed and blocked lists Message-ID: <0MKoyl-1EZxK739zx-00008A@mrelay.perfora.net> Gentlemen, I am very satisfied with your SpamBays program used in my PC with Outlook. I would like to be able to get a list of allowed and blocked senders which I would like to put into my mail server, thus reducing the amount of spam I receive when I am overseas while checking my e-mail on other complters. Please tell me how to download these lists. Sincerely yours Leo Esch leo at jsp.cc -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/163 - Release Date: 11/8/2005 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051109/277eba7b/attachment.htm From member at ebays.com Fri Nov 11 06:30:57 2005 From: member at ebays.com (EBAY FIP: eBay Member Services) Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 21:30:57 -0800 Subject: [Spambayes] FIP EBAY: Member Action Required Message-ID: <20051110014734.C87751E400A@bag.python.org> Dear eBay Member, You have not yet verified your eBay account. 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051110/4a165145/attachment.html From andrew at mammoth.com.au Thu Nov 10 06:30:08 2005 From: andrew at mammoth.com.au (Andrew Armstrong) Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 15:30:08 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes is filtering mail I have destined for specific folders Message-ID: <39DF19D033B7954B88A4F7B87546CA3021B09D@pdc1.lan.bris.mammothmedia.com.au> Hey, Im having a few issues with Spambayes. Currently, I have several outlook 2003 rules that filter email (depending on their domain) to different folders. However, spambayes is quite frequently moving messages, which are legit email, to the junk email folder. How can I prevent spambayes from moving emails when an outlook rule explicitly moves the email out of my inbox and into a sub-folder under the inbox? Ive had a play around with my spambayes settings, but cannot seem to make it stop moving my legit email. Ive re-trained spambayes a few times and it still moves legit email, but my main problem is as above, where email is being moved to junk when an outlook rule should be moving it elsewhere. Cheers, Andrew -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051110/71827b3a/attachment.htm From drose at nla.gov.au Thu Nov 10 07:03:30 2005 From: drose at nla.gov.au (Daniel Rose) Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 17:03:30 +1100 Subject: [Spambayes] Missing Junk E-mail folder Message-ID: <3F8819281E85774CA6CE6F4FB842874F01FABD03@gimli.shire.nla.gov.au> Hi, I trawled the archives a bit but my problems didn't come up. However, I don't seem to have experienced any of the problems that others have found, so I'm happy about that! We run a largish site and I'm hoping to get SB approved for use with Outlook 2003 on all 500 (or so) computers. Currently I have around 50 installs. Firstly, people tend to delete the junk email folder, and this kills SB cold. Can it be tweaked a bit to just recreate the folder if it's missing, or does the design prevent this? If it's theoretically possible then I can have a go, since it's my itch, but I don't want to setup the python 222 environment and so forth if it's known that this won't work. Secondly, I deploy SB via a repackaged MSI, and this works well, but I'd really like to send out a partially pretrained package. Has anyone done any work in this area before? Thanks a lot for your time. Regards, Daniel Rose Helpdesk Officer National Library of Australia ----------------------------- From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Nov 10 09:49:15 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 21:49:15 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes is filtering mail I have destined for specific folders In-Reply-To: <39DF19D033B7954B88A4F7B87546CA3021B09D@pdc1.lan.bris.mammothmedia.com.au> References: <39DF19D033B7954B88A4F7B87546CA3021B09D@pdc1.lan.bris.mammothmedia.com.au> Message-ID: <4FA221E3-EF7A-44D4-911A-200D7C3CFCD8@ihug.co.nz> > Currently, I have several outlook 2003 rules that filter email > (depending on their domain) to different folders. > > However, spambayes is quite frequently moving messages, which are > legit email, to the junk email folder. > > How can I prevent spambayes from moving emails when an outlook rule > explicitly moves the email out of my inbox and into a sub-folder > under the inbox? Don't filter those folders. SpamBayes is designed to run after all Outlook rules, so you should be able to filter only the Inbox, and any messages that rules move elsewhere SpamBayes will never know exist. If Outlook is abnormally slow, you might need to change the delay that SpamBayes waits before processing mail. This is found in the Advanced tab of the SpamBayes Manager dialog. It's also worth making sure that it is SpamBayes that's moving these messages (and not, e.g., Outlook's own junk mail filter). The SpamBayes log (SpamBayes->SpamBayes Manager->Advanced->Diagnostics- >View Log) will have an entry for each message that SpamBayes filters. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Nov 10 10:00:51 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:00:51 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] Missing Junk E-mail folder In-Reply-To: <3F8819281E85774CA6CE6F4FB842874F01FABD03@gimli.shire.nla.gov.au> References: <3F8819281E85774CA6CE6F4FB842874F01FABD03@gimli.shire.nla.gov.au> Message-ID: > However, I don't seem to have experienced any of the problems that > others have found, so I'm happy about that! That's because we've fixed all other problems . > Firstly, people tend to delete the junk email folder, and this > kills SB > cold. Can it be tweaked a bit to just recreate the folder if it's > missing, or does the design prevent this? If it's theoretically > possible then I can have a go, since it's my itch, but I don't want to > setup the python 222 environment and so forth if it's known that this > won't work. There's no reason I can think of that this wouldn't work. (I'm not sure what you mean by "python 222" - if you mean version 2.2.2 of Python, note that Python 2.2 (actually 2.2.0) is the *minimum* requirement, and the recommended version is Python 2.4.2). If you have problems with this, feel free to ask for help - probably the spambayes-dev at python.org list would be a better place (a message with "missing junk e-mail folder" as the subject probably gets written off by many as someone having deleted their junk folder and needing to be pointed to the FAQ). > Secondly, I deploy SB via a repackaged MSI, and this works well, > but I'd > really like to send out a partially pretrained package. Has anyone > done > any work in this area before? I believe Skip Montanaro considered this quite some time ago (looking into which messages should be included, etc), and I think that InBoxer, which was originally based on the SpamBayes Outlook plug-in, includes an optional pretrained database. I'm not aware of any others. Really, I would advise against this. It only takes a very small number (less than a day's email for most users) for SpamBayes to become effective. By doing all the training yourself, you're (a) learning how to do ongoing training, which is important, and (b) learning *your* email stream, not a general one. (It's possible that (b) isn't as much of a problem in your case, since corporate (or government) email might all look alike (from a statistical point of view) anyway). If you do want to do it, the only hard job is picking which email to use. Once you've done that, put it in Ham/Spam folders, and train away. Then just include the default_bayes_database.db and default_message_database.db in the installation, putting them into the user's data directory. If you want the training to be as effective as possible, you might want to switch off some of the tokenizing options to avoid getting spurious clues that relate specifically to whoever actually received the email. The comments in tokenizer.py outline which ones should be avoided ("mixed corpora" is the phrase to watch out for). Ask if you want more help with this. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Nov 10 10:04:39 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:04:39 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] Database corruption In-Reply-To: <002101c5e48b$36d457c0$0300a8c0@david> References: <002101c5e48b$36d457c0$0300a8c0@david> Message-ID: > I read in your FAQ that you are difficulty in tracking down what > corrupts the databases when using Spambayes with Outlook Express. > I have been having this problem quite frequently and have had to > zap the database multiple times and start over. It seems that this > is happening when certain spam emails are received. The problem is definitely not with parsing any email (but thanks for the suggestion, anyway). If an email does fail to be parsed, then sb_server will just skip filtering that message (and there'll be an exception header with details of the problem, like the one with the database error that you sent). Concurrent access and failing to close the database properly (e.g. crashes) can definitely cause problems. Those appear to be the typical reason; unfortunately bsddb (the database backend used by default) does not handle problems well. It seems likely that for SpamBayes 1.1 (I really hope to get 1.1a2 out this month) we'll switch to ZODB, which is a much more reliable database backend (and, perhaps more importantly, one that particular SpamBayes developers have intimate knowledge of), and put rest to these problems finally. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From jsp at PKC.com Thu Nov 10 13:56:31 2005 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 07:56:31 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] allowed and blocked lists Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F901D04509@PKCVT01.pkc.com> SpamBayes looks at (almost) all of the content of a message, including the sender and other headers as well as the message body. There are no lists of allowed and blocked senders, only tokens (words, more or less) and their probability of occurring in spam and ham messages. As a result, there's no way to do exactly what you're asking. However, some people have succeeded in setting up SpamBayes on servers. See http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#are-there-plans-to-develop-a-s erver-side-spambayes-solution. Note, though, that this is pretty invasive and is only an option if you control the server. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Leo Esch Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 4:18 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] allowed and blocked lists Gentlemen, I am very satisfied with your SpamBays program used in my PC with Outlook. I would like to be able to get a list of allowed and blocked senders which I would like to put into my mail server, thus reducing the amount of spam I receive when I am overseas while checking my e-mail on other complters. Please tell me how to download these lists. Sincerely yours Leo Esch leo at jsp.cc -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/163 - Release Date: 11/8/2005 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051110/31e5cb50/attachment.htm From mhammond at skippinet.com.au Fri Nov 11 04:17:04 2005 From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond) Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 14:17:04 +1100 Subject: [Spambayes] Missing Junk E-mail folder In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > Firstly, people tend to delete the junk email folder, and this > > kills SB > > cold. Can it be tweaked a bit to just recreate the folder if it's > > missing, or does the design prevent this? If it's theoretically > > possible then I can have a go, since it's my itch, but I don't want to > > setup the python 222 environment and so forth if it's known that this > > won't work. > > There's no reason I can think of that this wouldn't work. There are a couple of issues I can think of: If the user presses the "Delete" button on the folder, the entire folder generally gets moved to "Deleted Items" - however, the folder is still actually valid while it is there - spambayes just stores the "ID" of the folder, and this does not change when the folder is moved - even when moved to deleted items. By default Outlook will empty this folder as it terminates, so the next startup will find the folder invalid. However, some users may have disabled this automatic cleaning of "Deleted Items" - so the folder will *appear* to be missing, but still be working OK. I'm not sure if you also want to handle this case. A problem with restoring it is simply that SpamBayes doesn't actually store the name, or its location (as above, just its binary ID) A solution to this would be to detect the error and always create a folder of a specified name in the "root" (this name should be whatever the default name used by setup is - I can't recall now). This means SpamBayes may not recreate the folder with the original name or location, but at least would have a valid folder to work with. > (I'm not > sure what you mean by "python 222" - if you mean version 2.2.2 of > Python, note that Python 2.2 (actually 2.2.0) is the *minimum* > requirement, and the recommended version is Python 2.4.2). I keep hearing rumours of COM related errors with Python 2.4. While bug http://www.python.org/sf/1163244 remains alive I don't quite trust 2.4 - although I thought pywin32 worked around the bug it apparently doesn't do so in all cases. Sadly I'm struggling to find the time to dig into this as all my current work still only truly cares about 2.3. So for the outlook addin, I'd recommend sticking with 2.3.5 Mark From tim.peters at gmail.com Fri Nov 11 04:36:06 2005 From: tim.peters at gmail.com (Tim Peters) Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:36:06 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Missing Junk E-mail folder In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1f7befae0511101936u62345306m5d387d6ebdec1770@mail.gmail.com> [Mark Hammond] > ... > I keep hearing rumours of COM related errors with Python 2.4. While bug > http://www.python.org/sf/1163244 remains alive I don't quite trust 2.4 - > although I thought pywin32 worked around the bug it apparently doesn't do so > in all cases. I suspect bug 1163244 should be closed now (I just tried to reproduce the problem report there under 2.4.2, and couldn't -- see comments I added to the bug report). Some nasty bugs with encoding directives got fixed in 2.4.2, of such a low-level nature that I doubt you _could_ work around them reliably (well, not short of removing encoding directives!). > Sadly I'm struggling to find the time to dig into this as all my current work > still only truly cares about 2.3. That's why I just helped you ;-) > So for the outlook addin, I'd recommend sticking with 2.3.5 Or 2.4.2 ;-) Zopes 2.9 and 3.2 are going to require 2.4.2 -- we have only good experience of it. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Nov 11 04:54:11 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 16:54:11 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] Missing Junk E-mail folder In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49BFF89E-1CAE-4152-B304-D108556004A7@ihug.co.nz> > If the user presses the "Delete" button on the folder, the entire > folder > generally gets moved to "Deleted Items" - however, the folder is still > actually valid while it is there - spambayes just stores the "ID" > of the > folder, and this does not change when the folder is moved - even > when moved > to deleted items. It would be possible to write code to detect this, though, wouldn't it? Iterate up through the folder hierarchy of the spam folder, and if the "Deleted Items" folder is found, then create a new folder with the same name & location as the spam folder's original (presumably some sort of constant for this purpose). > A problem with restoring it is simply that SpamBayes doesn't > actually store > the name, or its location (as above, just its binary ID) A > solution to this > would be to detect the error and always create a folder of a > specified name > in the "root" (this name should be whatever the default name used > by setup > is - I can't recall now). This means SpamBayes may not recreate > the folder > with the original name or location, but at least would have a valid > folder > to work with. It would be possible to store the original name and location somewhere (e.g. one of the config files) and use this to recreate the folder when necessary. (The one part of this that might be nice for the official plug-in would be to look for a folder of the same name and location if this error does occur, and if it's found, automatically change the spam folder id to the id of that new folder. That would mean that SpamBayes would fix itself if a user deleted the spam folder and then created a new one with the same name and id, thinking that that would work). One thing I forgot in my original reply: if the Outlook being used is 2003, then you can use the Outlook "Junk Mail" folder for the spambayes spam folder (this is the default, IIRC), and I don't believe it's possible to delete this. However, the problem still arises with the unsure folder (although it's probably a little less common for users to delete that), to which all of this still applies. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From Debbie at lund-iorio.com Fri Nov 11 19:30:18 2005 From: Debbie at lund-iorio.com (Debbie Weiland) Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:30:18 -0800 Subject: [Spambayes] Junk E-Mails Message-ID: <19E197A6063AEA439982DCFD2846B548A315A1@Lund-Iorio-2000.lund-iorio.com> Help!! I accidentally opened and e-mail that I wanted in the Junk E-mail Folder. After I viewed it was deleted or disappeared. How do I recover it or find it? It was an urgent e-mail. Thanks, Debbie Weiland, CFSP Lund-Iorio, Inc. 27124 Paseo Espada, #801 San Juan Capistrano, CA 92675 Fax: (949) 443-4856 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051111/bdbe48d1/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Nov 11 20:50:31 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 08:50:31 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] Junk E-Mails In-Reply-To: <19E197A6063AEA439982DCFD2846B548A315A1@Lund-Iorio-2000.lund-iorio.com> References: <19E197A6063AEA439982DCFD2846B548A315A1@Lund-Iorio-2000.lund-iorio.com> Message-ID: > I accidentally opened and e-mail that I wanted in the Junk E-mail > Folder. After I viewed it was deleted or disappeared. How do I > recover it or find it? It sounds like you have set your Junk Email folder to only show unread email with a "View Filter". You can find it with Outlook's "Advanced Find", or turn off the view filter for that folder (Outlook's help explains how to do that). FAQ 3.12 covers this: =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From shaydeb at peoplepc.com Sun Nov 13 02:33:58 2005 From: shaydeb at peoplepc.com (shaydeb@peoplepc.com) Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 17:33:58 -0800 Subject: [Spambayes] second attempt Message-ID: <000801c5e7f2$529d2760$bd43ff04@shaydeb> I sent the email below last week, but still haven't heard anything from anyone - is there anyone out there who can help me???? Hi, I have had some rather strange things happening to my Outlook Express since starting spambayes and I was hoping someone could help me with it. I was able to download and start spambayes a few weeks ago. The first few days were great - I was training ham and spam and everything was going well. About the fifth day, I started receiving an error message when I opened Outlook Express stating that it was unable to open due to a pop3 error. I would close Outlook and try again and the message went away. I don't have the exact wording because I only received the message twice. Then I started receiving the following message "Your server has unexpectedly terminated the connection. Possible causes for this include server problems, network problems or a long period of inactivity. Socket error: 10053, error number 0 x800 CCC0f". This was so weird because you could still browse the web, so clearly the connection had not terminated. Through trial and error we learned that if you opened webmail first, then Outlook, we were able to get to our email. That worked for awhile, but then something else happened. Now when we open webmail first, then Outlook, we wait forever while it goes through "receiving messages". Then a message comes up that says "A time out occurred while communicating with the server account peoplepc online server. Localhost protocol pop3, port:110 secure SSL: no error number 0x800ccc19". Sometimes if we toggle back and forth between webmail and Outlook we can finally get Outlook open, then open spambayes and start training. Needless to say, this has become very tedious and tiresome. Sometimes it take s several tries just to get Outlook open. I'm about ready to remove spambayes and start over with some other anti-spam program, but I wanted to know if there is anything I can do. Please help. Debbie Concidine -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051112/ba5ead64/attachment.htm From bob at 1776.com Fri Nov 11 11:49:07 2005 From: bob at 1776.com (Robert K. Coe) Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 05:49:07 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Marketing for you In-Reply-To: <20051104153625.DA30F1E40CB@bag.python.org> Message-ID: <000001c5e6ad$8a82b640$0301a8c0@CambridgeMA.GOV> That's a bit novel, isn't it? A spammer advertising on our list! > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Alex > Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 10:36 AM > To: spambayes at python.org > Subject: [Spambayes] Marketing for you > > > > Dear spambayes at python.org: > > We specialized in E-mail Marketing. > > 1. Targeted list > > We may provide targeted email list. We will customize the list according to > your requirements. > > 2. Sending out Targeted Marketing for you > > We may send your email message to your target clients! We > will customize your email list and send your message for you. > > * We offer BP web Hosting & mail server. > > > Regards! > > Alex > Marketing Team > kezunli321 at yeah.net > > Bye: AlexNo at hotmail.com From richie at entrian.com Mon Nov 14 22:22:08 2005 From: richie at entrian.com (Richie Hindle) Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 21:22:08 +0000 Subject: [Spambayes] second attempt In-Reply-To: <000801c5e7f2$529d2760$bd43ff04@shaydeb> References: <000801c5e7f2$529d2760$bd43ff04@shaydeb> Message-ID: Hi Debbie, > I sent the email below last week, but still haven't heard anything > from anyone - is there anyone out there who can help me???? I'm sorry, but no-one here seems to know what's going on with your machine. I've never seen this behaviour before, and I don't really know what to suggest. -- Richie Hindle richie at entrian.com From richie at entrian.com Mon Nov 14 23:42:56 2005 From: richie at entrian.com (Richie Hindle) Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 22:42:56 +0000 Subject: [Spambayes] Better default configuration for SpamBayes? In-Reply-To: <2a052b990510311037t1172f42boadbd0e071049503d@mail.gmail.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20051029154017.04c94008@pop.onlinehome.de> <0EA47B9B-8E2A-4AA7-9C1A-2A2BB2694896@ihug.co.nz> <2a052b990510311037t1172f42boadbd0e071049503d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7k4in11g9hk2r2o1gv55smd97csu45mehe@4ax.com> [Michael] > perhaps you should change the default configuration of SpamBayes? [Richie, Tony, Kenny] > +1 Committed. Michael, thanks for the suggestion! -- Richie Hindle richie at entrian.com From drose at nla.gov.au Mon Nov 14 23:50:41 2005 From: drose at nla.gov.au (Daniel Rose) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 09:50:41 +1100 Subject: [Spambayes] Missing Junk E-mail folder Message-ID: <3F8819281E85774CA6CE6F4FB842874F01FABD13@gimli.shire.nla.gov.au> Tony: >There's no reason I can think of that this wouldn't work. (I'm not >sure what you mean by "python 222" - if you mean version 2.2.2 of >Python, note that Python 2.2 (actually 2.2.0) is the *minimum* >requirement, and the recommended version is Python 2.4.2). >From the FAQ, section 1.4: "If you're running Python 2.2.2 or above, then you already have this." I'll follow up on your other suggestions --thankyou very much! From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Nov 14 23:53:19 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 11:53:19 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] Missing Junk E-mail folder In-Reply-To: <3F8819281E85774CA6CE6F4FB842874F01FABD13@gimli.shire.nla.gov.au> References: <3F8819281E85774CA6CE6F4FB842874F01FABD13@gimli.shire.nla.gov.au> Message-ID: <57CF61DA-E4C9-4758-8A58-2E17AB5507A5@ihug.co.nz> >> There's no reason I can think of that this wouldn't work. (I'm not >> sure what you mean by "python 222" - if you mean version 2.2.2 of >> Python, note that Python 2.2 (actually 2.2.0) is the *minimum* >> requirement, and the recommended version is Python 2.4.2). > > From the FAQ, section 1.4: > > "If you're running Python 2.2.2 or above, then you already have this." 2.2.2 includes the email package, but you can install that separately and use 2.2.0. Note that the email package with 2.4 is vastly improved over the 2.2/2.3 one, so it's worth using that if there aren't other problems with 2.4 (e.g. the COM problems Mark mentioned). Alternatively, you can use the 2.4 email package with 2.3 easily enough. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From Amir_Katz at bmc.com Tue Nov 15 09:24:57 2005 From: Amir_Katz at bmc.com (Katz, Amir) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 10:24:57 +0200 Subject: [Spambayes] Changing database type kills SpamBayes Message-ID: I'm using SB Proxy at home and I ran into the dreaded equivalent of BSOD ("DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery"). So I followed the FAQ and removed the database and changed the DB type from hammie (I think it's the default) to pickle. After starting spamBayes, it would immediately die - the tray icon would disappear. This is on Win XP professional with SP1. Amir -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051115/e8c852b9/attachment.htm From fredrik.kant at sungard.com Tue Nov 15 09:46:30 2005 From: fredrik.kant at sungard.com (fredrik.kant@sungard.com) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 09:46:30 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Request, extending the functionality for other kinds of classifications? Message-ID: Hi! First I need to say that I have used SpamBays for almost 2 years and it worked real fine. In a test in Sweden's larges computer magazines, Data Magazinet, SpamBay was ranked number one compared to 11 other SpamBays filter, most of them you had to pay for. Not just because it is free but because it is so accurate. The only negative thing was perhaps the performance. My questions is: I wonder how hard it would be to be able to extend SpamBays so it can be used for other kind of classifications? My idea is that why not be able to classify mails as: important, medium,low ,private or so and use the same technology to train to filter for doing different classifications. Then people which receives a lot of mail could get a first classification and process the most important mails first. I assume one would like to have a similar folder as the "Junc Suspect" folder (e.g. "not classified") or one common "suspect" folder. Having friends in Management positions receiving on average 50-60 mails per day that must be processed (but normally there is not enough time) the above described functionality would probably help them in there mail processing so it would be a nice thing to have. 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051115/709d6a94/attachment.htm From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Nov 15 09:41:19 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 21:41:19 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] Changing database type kills SpamBayes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > I'm using SB Proxy at home and I ran into the dreaded equivalent of > BSOD ("DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, > run database recovery"). So I followed the FAQ and removed the > database and changed the DB type from hammie (I think it's the > default) to pickle. After starting spamBayes, it would immediately > die - the tray icon would disappear. This is on Win XP > professional with SP1. You'll have to remove the old bsddb files, or set SpamBayes to use different ones. There's a tracker open about this somewhere (the best behaviour would probably be to automatically convert the databases, if possible). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From pickup at ntlworld.com Tue Nov 15 18:57:20 2005 From: pickup at ntlworld.com (Al and Andy) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 17:57:20 -0000 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes will not load Message-ID: <000001c5ea0e$0694bd60$6501a8c0@home.local> Hi, I had a head crash and had to reinstall all my software again. I installed the executable version of SpamBayes from a User Account. When I load up the binary version of SpamBayes from the same user account - nothing happens. The logfile is attached. I am running Windows XP Pro with Service Pack 2. (I have run this as administrator as well - and the same happened) Andy Pickup From Ken_Goekjian at avid.com Tue Nov 15 21:23:43 2005 From: Ken_Goekjian at avid.com (Ken Goekjian) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 15:23:43 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes compatibility issue? Message-ID: <947869D80E39884D8207B9F253BB4D7002DF96E0@tewk-mbpf3.global.avidww.com> Hello all, I recently changed E-mail machines, upgrading from: Win2K Pro Version 5.0.2195 SP4/Outlook (2002) 10.6515.6735 SP3/SpamBayes rev 0.81 to WinXP Pro Version 5.1.2600 SP2/ Outlook (2002) 10.6515.6735 SP3/SpamBayes rev 1.04 I transferred my training files (default_message_database.db, default_bayes_database.db) to my new machine. When I run Outlook on the new machine, during Send/Receive, the filter function transfers files to the SPAM & SPAM_SUSPECTS folders as expected, but then the files are moved BACK into my INBOX, often with different spam scores than those I observed (briefly) in the SPAM folders. Files that "bounce back" from my SPAM folder are marked as read (as instructed for items moved the SPAM folder), while items that bounce back from my SPAM_SUSPECTS folder are marked as unread (again, as instructed). Note that this is observational and anecdotal data - the "bounceback" is quite rapid, so I haven't been able to capture a listing to verify/document some of this behavior. If I then mark all the "bounced" mail as unread and filter unread messages manually (with no Send/Receive in progress), the filter works as expected, and the mail stays in the appropriate folders. Despite transferring the training files, SpamBayes is acting semi-untrained, with certain types of messages that it used to pick up as spam now going undetected. I tried un-intalling SpamBayes 1.04 and installing 0.81 (which has worked great on my old machine for a long time) and got the same behavior ("bounceback" and odd scoring) on the new machine. Has anyone else seen this type of behavior? Is there a pilot error involved here (I hope)? Is there more data that I could collect on this problem? Thanks for any assistance, Ken Goekjian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051115/90fd5d6d/attachment.html From deannam3 at sbcglobal.net Wed Nov 16 03:45:55 2005 From: deannam3 at sbcglobal.net (Deanna Morrison) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 18:45:55 -0800 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes support question Message-ID: <20051116024603.CD1E21E4007@bag.python.org> Hello I have been using SpamBayes for quite a while now and love it...thank you for the product! Yesterday morning I inadvertently deleted the Junk Suspects folder. Once I noticed I had, I went to my personal folders and selected new folder. I named the new folder Junk Suspects - however I question if it actually mapped correctly as I received about 10 emails this afternoon that I saw come into my inbox, but within seconds disappeared. I figured they had gone into the Junk Suspect file but they had not (nor in the Junk email file). I upgraded to 1.0.4 this evening and reconfigured my settings..which now the Junk Suspect folder is correctly working. My question is - is there a way I can retrieve the 10 or so messages that disappeared this afternoon?? Is there an email "purgatory" out there that I can access somehow?? One is very important from a potential employer. I would appreciate any guidance you may be able to provide. Thank you! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051115/9075e689/attachment.html From drose at nla.gov.au Wed Nov 16 04:22:54 2005 From: drose at nla.gov.au (Daniel Rose) Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:22:54 +1100 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes support question Message-ID: <3F8819281E85774CA6CE6F4FB842874F01FABD53@gimli.shire.nla.gov.au> See everyone? I told you! Deanna you will probably find that the folder is in your deleted items, and that the spam is still going to the same folder. SpamBayes identifies these folders by a Unique ID, so wherever the folder goes, SpamBayes still puts the spam there. I think you will have to change the configuration and tell it to use the new folder you created. -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Deanna Morrison Sent: Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:46 To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes support question Hello I have been using SpamBayes for quite a while now and love it.....thank you for the product! Yesterday morning I inadvertently deleted the Junk Suspects folder. Once I noticed I had, I went to my personal folders and selected new folder. I named the new folder Junk Suspects - however I question if it actually mapped correctly as I received about 10 emails this afternoon that I saw come into my inbox, but within seconds disappeared. I figured they had gone into the Junk Suspect file but they had not (nor in the Junk email file). I upgraded to 1.0.4 this evening and reconfigured my settings....which now the Junk Suspect folder is correctly working. My question is - is there a way I can retrieve the 10 or so messages that disappeared this afternoon?? Is there an email "purgatory" out there that I can access somehow?? One is very important from a potential employer. I would appreciate any guidance you may be able to provide. Thank you! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I believe from Deanna's message that she has already fixed the folder problem (simply moving the folder back out of the Deleted Items folder is the easiest way to fix the problem). Deanna: if you haven't emptied the Deleted Items folder, then the old spam folder will still be there, and the mail will be in it. If you have deleted it, then it's gone. There are utilities that will retrieve deleted mail from an Outlook PST file (as long as you haven't compressed it); I don't recall the names of any offhand, but google will know. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From ALager at masterworkelectronics.com Wed Nov 16 19:22:30 2005 From: ALager at masterworkelectronics.com (Aaron Lager) Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 10:22:30 -0800 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes not moving spam after it's scored Message-ID: <4B4867C601000D4D834B1B65028356BC52E559@EMAIL.masterworkelectronics.com> Our problem is seen after spambayes has been running a while; one day or more. With OL2k after spambayes has been running for a day or more, it stops sorting the spam. If I look at the spam score it's 99% spam. In the general settings of spambayes the checkbox for enable is checked. In the COM Add-Ins area of OL2k, spambayes is checked. I do not see the area in the about menu for disabled components, like I do in OLXp. So what can cause spambayes to score the messages, but not move them? Thanks Aaron -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051117/40925893/attachment.htm From jsp at PKC.com Thu Nov 17 18:11:15 2005 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 12:11:15 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F901D04527@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Assuming that a) you're using the Outlook plugin and b) you want to delete the contents of the folder, not the folder itself, here's what works for me. 1) Select (click) the folder in the navigation pane (sidebar). 2) Choose Edit > Select All from the menu, OR select (click) any message in the message pane and then press Ctrl-A. 3) Delete the selected messages by pressing Delete or clicking the X button on the toolbar. If you hold down the Shift key while doing this, the messages will be permanently deleted. Otherwise, they're move to the Deleted Items folder. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Ted Kimball Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 10:59 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) How do I delete the entire delete spam folder at once? Ted Kimball, Partner Kimball, Tirey & St. John 1202 Kettner Blvd. 5th Floor San Diego, CA 92101 (800) 338-6039 www.kts-law.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051117/0511a297/attachment.html From joeyanderson at comcast.net Thu Nov 17 22:31:38 2005 From: joeyanderson at comcast.net (Joseph C. Anderson) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 16:31:38 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam program for Outlook Express 6 Message-ID: <001101c5ebbe$51422490$6400a8c0@JoeyA> Looking for a program to run on Microsoft Outlook Express 6. Do you have any that works with this program? Thank you -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051117/0c025514/attachment.htm From drose at nla.gov.au Thu Nov 17 22:57:45 2005 From: drose at nla.gov.au (Daniel Rose) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 08:57:45 +1100 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam program for Outlook Express 6 Message-ID: <3F8819281E85774CA6CE6F4FB842874F01FABD64@gimli.shire.nla.gov.au> -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Joseph C. Anderson Sent: Friday, 18 November 2005 08:32 To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Spam program for Outlook Express 6 Looking for a program to run on Microsoft Outlook Express 6. Do you have any that works with this program? Thank you You can download the latest version of SpamBayes here: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/spambayes/spambayes-1.1a1.exe?downloa d If you have any trouble, try this one instead -- it's a little older but may be more stable. http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/spambayes/spambayes-1.0.4.exe?downloa d -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051118/d160d79e/attachment.html From Bonnie at universal-travel.com Thu Nov 17 22:46:28 2005 From: Bonnie at universal-travel.com (Bonnie Baskin) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 16:46:28 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] HELP Message-ID: <05FA657B639E574E9E79DF67B806ECD101189CAA@sbs01.uti.local> I am on Windows XP and was running spambays for a long time. However, we had some major problems with email and hurricane Wilma and since my boss made some changes spambays no longer worked. I deleted the program and even if I try to reload, it is not working. Can someone help??? Bonnie Baskin Comptroller Universal Travel/American Express 954-525-5000 x247 bonnie at universal-travel.com Visit us at our web site: www.universal-travel.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051117/ffd26176/attachment.htm From drose at nla.gov.au Fri Nov 18 01:04:14 2005 From: drose at nla.gov.au (Daniel Rose) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 11:04:14 +1100 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam program for Outlook Express 6 Message-ID: <3F8819281E85774CA6CE6F4FB842874F01FABD67@gimli.shire.nla.gov.au> -----Original Message----- From: Joseph C. Anderson [mailto:joeyanderson at comcast.net] Sent: Friday, 18 November 2005 09:49 To: Daniel Rose Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Spam program for Outlook Express 6 Your website said it is not compatible with Outlook express. aha! The Outlook Addin/Plugin, which places pretty buttons in outlook, does not work with Outlook Express. However, the downloads I indicated also include the SpamBayes POP3 Proxy server. POP3 is the way most email clients get their mail from the server. If you want more information about POP3, you can see here, but it's a little technical: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_Office_Protocol Anyway, SpamBayes can sit "in between" outlook express and the mail server and filter your email before it gets to Outlook Express at all. This is the option suited not just for Outlook Express, but any mail client, such as Thunderbird or the Bat or Eudora or Netscape Messenger or Foxmail or anything that uses POP3. Please try it out and let me know if you have any trouble. The Outlook addin is an application of the SpamBayes project. To our knowledge, the current version of the plug-in should work with Windows 98 and above and Outlook 2000 or above. You may be able to get the plug-in to work with Windows 95 if you install the most recent version of Internet Explorer possible, but we are not certain about this. It does not work with Outlook Express Please advise. ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel Rose To: Joseph C. Anderson ; spambayes at python.org Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 4:57 PM Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Spam program for Outlook Express 6 -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Joseph C. Anderson Sent: Friday, 18 November 2005 08:32 To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Spam program for Outlook Express 6 Looking for a program to run on Microsoft Outlook Express 6. Do you have any that works with this program? Thank you You can download the latest version of SpamBayes here: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/spambayes/spambayes-1.1a1.exe?downloa d If you have any trouble, try this one instead -- it's a little older but may be more stable. http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/spambayes/spambayes-1.0.4.exe?downloa d -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051118/d358b281/attachment.htm From joel at stevecrocker.com Fri Nov 18 04:15:02 2005 From: joel at stevecrocker.com (Joel M. Halpern) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 22:15:02 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Intermittent SpamBayes crashes Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20051117220929.02cfbc18@localhost> I have been getting intermittent crashes of SpamBayes. I have attached the Server log that shows one such problem. Note that when I have such crashes, and then go to turn off my computer, I get "interesting" error messages about problems in Windows. It is quite possible the problem is elsewhere in my system, but extensive diagnostics do not show anything. The only other evidence I have is that the crashes were more frequent last week when I had intermittent connectivity. (I was using wireless at a meeting, and it was broken quite often.) The SpamBayes configuration information indicates that I am running SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 1.0.4 (March 2005). Is there any way to tell if this is a SpamBayes bug or a problem on my machine? Thank you, Joel M. Halpern PS: I find SpamBayes a very effective tool, and appreciate the work that goes into developing and supporting it. -------------- next part -------------- Service not available. Using thread. Loading database... SMTP Listener on port 25 is proxying mail.stevecrocker.com:25 Listener on port 110 is proxying mail.stevecrocker.com:110 User interface url is http://localhost:8880/ error: uncaptured python exception, closing channel (socket.error:(10022, 'Invalid argument') [asyncore.pyc|read|69] [asyncore.pyc|handle_read_event|384] [spambayes\Dibbler.pyc|handle_accept|289] [asyncore.pyc|accept|327]) error: uncaptured python exception, closing channel (socket.error:(10022, 'Invalid argument') [asyncore.pyc|read|69] [asyncore.pyc|handle_read_event|384] [spambayes\Dibbler.pyc|handle_accept|289] [asyncore.pyc|accept|327]) From michael.thydell at arcsquare.com Fri Nov 18 07:20:09 2005 From: michael.thydell at arcsquare.com (Michael Thydell) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 07:20:09 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Flaw? Message-ID: <000801c5ec08$25472440$4a12e155@michael> The Not Spam Option does not seem to function in my case. Once a source has been tagged as spam - it stays spam. Otherwise you have a great little piece of code! Best regards Michael Thydell ArcSquare AB Sweden -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051118/e3f02203/attachment.html From andyseabrook at virtualenergygroup.co.uk Fri Nov 18 12:49:40 2005 From: andyseabrook at virtualenergygroup.co.uk (Andrew Seabrook) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 11:49:40 -0000 Subject: [Spambayes] Unable to run in an All-Users situation Message-ID: <000001c5ec36$29b712a0$0100a8c0@silverbeast> The troubleshooting guide says: >>>>>> It is possible to register the addin so it is available to all users on a particular machine, which can be useful in enterprise arrangements where users have 'roaming profiles'. To register SpamBayes in this way, you must log on as a user with permissions to modify the system registry, then execute the command (with the correct path substituted): "c:\Program Files\SpamBayes\bin\outlook_addin_register.exe" hkey_local_machine >>>>>> So which key should this be applied to, or if I am missing something, where do I execute this command? Andy Seabrook From andyseabrook at yahoo.co.uk Fri Nov 18 14:12:52 2005 From: andyseabrook at yahoo.co.uk (Andy Seabrook) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 13:12:52 -0000 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem installing in an All-User situation Message-ID: <000001c5ec41$c8953c20$0100a8c0@silverbeast> The troubleshooting guide says: >>>>>> It is possible to register the addin so it is available to all users on a particular machine, which can be useful in enterprise arrangements where users have 'roaming profiles'. To register SpamBayes in this way, you must log on as a user with permissions to modify the system registry, then execute the command (with the correct path substituted): "c:\Program Files\SpamBayes\bin\outlook_addin_register.exe" hkey_local_machine >>>>>> So which key should this be applied to, or if I am missing something, where do I execute this command? Andy Seabrook ___________________________________________________________ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com From Gabor.Markon at HVBSystems.com Fri Nov 18 14:10:54 2005 From: Gabor.Markon at HVBSystems.com (Gabor.Markon@HVBSystems.com) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 14:10:54 +0100 Subject: [Spambayes] Recover from Button Message-ID: <7C3E0164FEFA5648888D39BFD41D937D03ECB1FC@emsbax27.resdom.droot.net> Hi, the "recover from" button functions well as far as recovering the item from "spam suspect" into my email input folder. Problem is, the recover will be forgotten: that means, when I get the very same email, it will be pushed into "spam suspect" again... Any hints ? TIA ! Mit freundlichen Gr?ssen / best regards _______________________________ Gabor Markon SW-Engineering Methods & Process SYS30EP HVB Systems GmbH Member of HVB Group Apianstra?e 14 > 85774 Unterf?hring > phone: +49 (89) 378-44885 fax: +49 (89) 378-33-44885 mailto:Gabor.Markon at hvbsystems.com http://www.hvbsystems.com From felix.sambuchino at unisys.com Fri Nov 18 15:10:44 2005 From: felix.sambuchino at unisys.com (Sambuchino, Felix) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 09:10:44 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] No Tool Bar Message-ID: <152896A220F925469AD211108A73E39407D3BC4E@USBB-EXCH2.na.uis.unisys.com> My Spam E-bayes tool bar is no visable, an ideas Felix Sambuchino Jr. Systems Analyst Enterprise Hardware Support Staff unisys Corporation Office (703) 419 3506 Net 491-3506 Pager (877) 747 8494 Cell (202) 270-2179 Residence (202) 965-2179 THIS COMMUNICATION MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL AND/OR OTHERWISE PROPRIETARY MATERIAL and is thus for use only by the intended recipient. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the e-mail and its attachments from all computers. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051118/dca00171/attachment.htm From jsp at PKC.com Fri Nov 18 16:25:36 2005 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 10:25:36 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem installing in an All-User situation Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F901D0452B@PKCVT01.pkc.com> I think you just need to execute exactly that command, either from a command prompt or by selecting "Run..." from the start menu. You might want to first check that "c:\Program Files\SpamBayes\bin\outlook_addin_register.exe" exists on your system. It should, unless you changed the installation directory when you installed SpamBayes. If the file does not exist, search your disk for outlook_addin_register.exe and change the path in the command to match the directory where the program is found. (That's what the "correct path substituted" bit in the troubleshooting guide is about.) > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Andy Seabrook > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 8:13 AM > To: spambayes at python.org > Subject: [Spambayes] Problem installing in an All-User situation > > The troubleshooting guide says: > >>>>>> > It is possible to register the addin so it is available to > all users on a > particular machine, which can be useful in enterprise > arrangements where > users have 'roaming profiles'. To register SpamBayes in this > way, you must > log on as a user with permissions to modify the system registry, then > execute the command (with the correct path substituted): "c:\Program > Files\SpamBayes\bin\outlook_addin_register.exe" hkey_local_machine > > >>>>>> > So which key should this be applied to, or if I am missing > something, where > do I execute this command? > > Andy Seabrook > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the > all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > SpamBayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > From ALager at masterworkelectronics.com Fri Nov 18 17:08:14 2005 From: ALager at masterworkelectronics.com (Aaron Lager) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 08:08:14 -0800 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes not moving spam after it's scored Message-ID: <4B4867C601000D4D834B1B65028356BC52E56B@EMAIL.masterworkelectronics.com> Our problem is seen after spambayes has been running a while; one day or more. With OL2k after spambayes has been running for a day or more, it stops sorting the spam. If I look at the spam score it's 99% spam. In the general settings of spambayes the checkbox for enable is checked. In the COM Add-Ins area of OL2k, spambayes is checked. I do not see the area in the about menu for disabled components, like I do in OLXp. So what can cause spambayes to score the messages, but not move them? Thanks Aaron -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051118/1551b69d/attachment.html From mcaddel at ncsoft.com Fri Nov 18 17:26:22 2005 From: mcaddel at ncsoft.com (Michelle Caddel) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 10:26:22 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] Messages not being automatically filtered Message-ID: <2BF7B234AFBCEE4181EB7295A139FB671CFAC3@NCUSPOSTAL01.ncaustin.com> Hello, I am running Windows XP, Professional, version 2002, service pack 2, and SB Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0.4 (March 2005). I have spambayes installed on my system and have been running it for several months. Early on it would automatically scan my messages when I opened Outlook. It is not doing so now. I have confirmed that the Enable button is selected, the training system is enabled and yet I'm now having to go in and manually select 'Filter Messages' any time I want them filtered. I've also tried removing and reinstalling SpamBayes. Nothing I can think of to do has helped. I love SpamBayes! It is very useful to me and I would really like to have it 'healthy' again. Please let me know what I need to do. Somehow I don't think chicken soup will help in this case. ;-) Thank you, Michelle Caddel NCsoft 6801 N. Capital of Texas Hwy Bldg 1, Suite 102 Austin, TX 78731 Tel: 512/498-4052 Fax: 512/498-4099 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051118/29c5e139/attachment.html From andyseabrook at yahoo.co.uk Fri Nov 18 17:39:21 2005 From: andyseabrook at yahoo.co.uk (Andy Seabrook) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 16:39:21 -0000 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem installing in an All-User situation In-Reply-To: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F901D0452B@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Message-ID: <000001c5ec5e$a11adb60$0100a8c0@silverbeast> Thanks Jesse, didn't know you could add to the registry like that. Anyway. The log reports as it should, after the command is executed, however still no spambayes in outlook after user logon. The file was in the default location. I have tried importing any and all of the files in "bin" through the COM add-in manager too but to no avail. spambayes-1.1a1.exe And Outlook 2002 SP3 Andy -----Original Message----- From: Jesse Pelton [mailto:jsp at PKC.com] Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 3:26 PM To: Andy Seabrook; spambayes at python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Problem installing in an All-User situation I think you just need to execute exactly that command, either from a command prompt or by selecting "Run..." from the start menu. You might want to first check that "c:\Program Files\SpamBayes\bin\outlook_addin_register.exe" exists on your system. It should, unless you changed the installation directory when you installed SpamBayes. If the file does not exist, search your disk for outlook_addin_register.exe and change the path in the command to match the directory where the program is found. (That's what the "correct path substituted" bit in the troubleshooting guide is about.) > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Andy Seabrook > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 8:13 AM > To: spambayes at python.org > Subject: [Spambayes] Problem installing in an All-User situation > > The troubleshooting guide says: > >>>>>> > It is possible to register the addin so it is available to all users > on a particular machine, which can be useful in enterprise > arrangements where > users have 'roaming profiles'. To register SpamBayes in this > way, you must > log on as a user with permissions to modify the system registry, then > execute the command (with the correct path substituted): "c:\Program > Files\SpamBayes\bin\outlook_addin_register.exe" hkey_local_machine > > >>>>>> > So which key should this be applied to, or if I am missing something, > where do I execute this command? > > Andy Seabrook > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the > all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > SpamBayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Model Search 2005 - Find the next catwalk superstars - http://uk.news.yahoo.com/hot/model-search/ From jsp at PKC.com Fri Nov 18 17:38:57 2005 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 11:38:57 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes not moving spam after it's scored Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F901D0452D@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Does http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#messages-don-t-move-after-clic king-until-i-change-folder apply? ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Aaron Lager Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 11:08 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes not moving spam after it's scored Our problem is seen after spambayes has been running a while; one day or more. With OL2k after spambayes has been running for a day or more, it stops sorting the spam. If I look at the spam score it's 99% spam. In the general settings of spambayes the checkbox for enable is checked. In the COM Add-Ins area of OL2k, spambayes is checked. I do not see the area in the about menu for disabled components, like I do in OLXp. So what can cause spambayes to score the messages, but not move them? Thanks Aaron -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051118/6486f363/attachment.htm From ALager at masterworkelectronics.com Fri Nov 18 17:51:48 2005 From: ALager at masterworkelectronics.com (Aaron Lager) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 08:51:48 -0800 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes not moving spam after it's scored Message-ID: <4B4867C601000D4D834B1B65028356BC52E56C@EMAIL.masterworkelectronics.com> It doesn't appear to be. I just tried it and manually sorting does move the message. I would assume that if this were the problem, then the statistics in the manager would say X number of messages processed etc. These instances all state that zero messages have been processed. We are running exchange server 2003 and the problematic systems are running OL2k on both win2k or winXP. If I uninstall and then reinstall they'll work for a day or two, then stop. Aaron -----Original Message----- From: Jesse Pelton [mailto:jsp at PKC.com] Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 8:39 AM To: Aaron Lager; spambayes at python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] spambayes not moving spam after it's scored Does http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#messages-don-t-move-after-clic king-until-i-change-folder apply? ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Aaron Lager Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 11:08 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes not moving spam after it's scored Our problem is seen after spambayes has been running a while; one day or more. With OL2k after spambayes has been running for a day or more, it stops sorting the spam. If I look at the spam score it's 99% spam. In the general settings of spambayes the checkbox for enable is checked. In the COM Add-Ins area of OL2k, spambayes is checked. I do not see the area in the about menu for disabled components, like I do in OLXp. So what can cause spambayes to score the messages, but not move them? Thanks Aaron -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051118/43d50558/attachment.htm From Postmaster at bag.python.org Fri Nov 18 18:25:48 2005 From: Postmaster at bag.python.org (Postmaster) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 12:25:48 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Delivery Failure Message-ID: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The message you sent to istesevgi.com/bulten was rejected because the quota for the mailbox has been exceeded. The subject of the message follows: Subject: Hello --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From kirebrow at yahoo.com Sat Nov 19 00:13:16 2005 From: kirebrow at yahoo.com (Erik Brown) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 17:13:16 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes support question In-Reply-To: <21851F8A-EE84-4DE6-8ED6-FC3256D9D180@ihug.co.nz> Message-ID: <20051118221318.BLJW20891.ibm70aec.bellsouth.net@ENLIGHTENED> Tony, How did SpamBayes perform in the TREC 2005 testing? Do you have any numbers? From sharon at frischling.com Sat Nov 19 22:51:55 2005 From: sharon at frischling.com (Sharon Frischling) Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:51:55 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] bug? Message-ID: Hello! I love SpamBayes! It worked great on my old computer running Windows XP. However, I installed it on our new machine that is running Windows VP Media Center Edition and it hasn't been quite right since. It works for a while and then stops. If I shut down the computer it will work for a while (a couple of hours?). If I reinstall the program sometimes it works longer (a day or two?). After that It just puts everything into Junk Suspects and the "Delete As Spam" and "Recover From Spam" buttons do not work. I transferred over my training databases so there is plenty of info available to score the incoming messages. Can you help? Sharon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051119/7695831b/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat Nov 19 23:41:29 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 11:41:29 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] Unable to run in an All-Users situation In-Reply-To: <000001c5ec36$29b712a0$0100a8c0@silverbeast> References: <000001c5ec36$29b712a0$0100a8c0@silverbeast> Message-ID: > The troubleshooting guide says: >>>>>>> > It is possible to register the addin so it is available to all > users on a > particular machine, which can be useful in enterprise arrangements > where > users have 'roaming profiles'. > To register SpamBayes in this way, you must log on as a user with > permissions to modify the system registry, then execute the command > (with > the correct path substituted): > "c:\Program Files\SpamBayes\bin\outlook_addin_register.exe" > hkey_local_machine > >>>>>>> > So which key should this be applied to, or if I am missing > something, where > do I execute this command? In a command prompt (e.g. Start->Run->cmd.exe). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat Nov 19 23:44:32 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 11:44:32 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes not moving spam after it's scored In-Reply-To: <4B4867C601000D4D834B1B65028356BC52E559@EMAIL.masterworkelectronics.com> References: <4B4867C601000D4D834B1B65028356BC52E559@EMAIL.masterworkelectronics.com> Message-ID: <5AF22BC1-44EF-499C-A1D4-12A70C9C79CF@ihug.co.nz> > With OL2k after spambayes has been running for a day or more, it stops > sorting the spam. If I look at the spam score it?s 99% spam. Look how? In the spam field of the message, or using the "Show clues for this message" feature? > So what can cause spambayes to score the messages, but not move them? Please send us a copy of your most recent log file, and the subject of a message that failed to be moved that arrived during the time of that log. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat Nov 19 23:47:23 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 11:47:23 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem installing in an All-User situation In-Reply-To: <000001c5ec5e$a11adb60$0100a8c0@silverbeast> References: <000001c5ec5e$a11adb60$0100a8c0@silverbeast> Message-ID: > Anyway. The log reports as it should, after the command is > executed, however > still no spambayes in outlook after user logon. Does it work the the user that did the install? Does installing work for a single user? Does the registry key exist? (in HKLM\Software \Microsoft\Office\Outlook\Addins\) =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tim at fourstonesExpressions.com Sun Nov 20 00:06:36 2005 From: tim at fourstonesExpressions.com (Tim Stone) Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 17:06:36 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] bug? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <437FAFFC.1090504@fourstonesExpressions.com> I presume you mean Windows XP Media Center Edition? What version of Outlook are you now running? Sharon Frischling wrote: > Hello! > > I love SpamBayes! It worked great on my old computer running Windows > XP. However, I installed it on our new machine that is running Windows > VP Media Center Edition and it hasn?t been quite right since. It works > for a while and then stops. If I shut down the computer it will work > for a while (a couple of hours?). If I reinstall the program sometimes > it works longer (a day or two?). After that It just puts everything > into Junk Suspects and the ?Delete As Spam? and ?Recover From Spam? > buttons do not work. > > I transferred over my training databases so there is plenty of info > available to score the incoming messages. > > Can you help? > > Sharon > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >SpamBayes at python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes >Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.4/175 - Release Date: 11/18/2005 > > From sharon at frischling.com Sun Nov 20 00:10:33 2005 From: sharon at frischling.com (Sharon Frischling) Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 18:10:33 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] bug? In-Reply-To: <437FAFFC.1090504@fourstonesExpressions.com> Message-ID: Sorry, yes, I meant Windows XP Media Center Edition. I am running Outlook 2003 SP2. -----Original Message----- From: Tim Stone [mailto:tim at fourstonesExpressions.com] Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 6:07 PM To: sharon at frischling.com Cc: spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] bug? I presume you mean? What version of Outlook are you now running? Sharon Frischling wrote: > Hello! > > I love SpamBayes! It worked great on my old computer running Windows > XP. However, I installed it on our new machine that is running Windows > VP Media Center Edition and it hasn't been quite right since. It works > for a while and then stops. If I shut down the computer it will work > for a while (a couple of hours?). If I reinstall the program sometimes > it works longer (a day or two?). After that It just puts everything > into Junk Suspects and the "Delete As Spam" and "Recover From Spam" > buttons do not work. > > I transferred over my training databases so there is plenty of info > available to score the incoming messages. > > Can you help? > > Sharon > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >SpamBayes at python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes >Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.4/175 - Release Date: 11/18/2005 > > From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Nov 20 00:19:08 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 12:19:08 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] bug? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > However, I installed it on our new machine that is running Windows > VP Media Center Edition and it hasn?t been quite right since. It > works for a while and then stops. If I shut down the computer it > will work for a while (a couple of hours?). If I reinstall the > program sometimes it works longer (a day or two?). After that It > just puts everything into Junk Suspects and the ?Delete As Spam? > and ?Recover From Spam? buttons do not work. Next time it stops working, please send us a copy of your most recent log file. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Nov 20 00:25:53 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 12:25:53 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes and TREC In-Reply-To: <20051118221318.BLJW20891.ibm70aec.bellsouth.net@ENLIGHTENED> References: <20051118221318.BLJW20891.ibm70aec.bellsouth.net@ENLIGHTENED> Message-ID: <30533149-F84A-46CA-9586-E7E85B1F7B34@ihug.co.nz> > How did SpamBayes perform in the TREC 2005 testing? Do you have any > numbers? For a start, you can see the information here: http:// plg.uwaterloo.ca/~gvcormac/trecspamtrack05/ At some point during the registration process TREC latched on to "Massey University" (where I was working at the time, but completely uninvolved with SpamBayes) as my 'organisation name', so you may see that in some of the results. Just substitute "SpamBayes" for "Massey University" wherever you see it. I'll make my notebook paper available when I have a chance, and (once it's done) my proceedings paper. In brief, SpamBayes did better than I expected (towards the bottom of the top ten) considering that it is designed to classify as ham/ unsure/spam, not ham/spam, and considering that I didn't make any special effort to change options, etc (in fact, it seems that the best variant of SpamBayes was the out-of-the-box one), nor did I put any effort into determining what the single cutoff should be. What surprised me the most was that the train-on-everything variant seems to have performed the best. I'm still looking into this; I hope to have more details by the time the proceedings paper is finished. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From sharon at frischling.com Sun Nov 20 13:36:50 2005 From: sharon at frischling.com (Sharon Frischling) Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 07:36:50 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] bug? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It stopped working. -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer at ihug.co.nz] Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 6:19 PM To: sharon at frischling.com Cc: spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] bug? > However, I installed it on our new machine that is running Windows > VP Media Center Edition and it hasn't been quite right since. It > works for a while and then stops. If I shut down the computer it > will work for a while (a couple of hours?). If I reinstall the > program sometimes it works longer (a day or two?). After that It > just puts everything into Junk Suspects and the "Delete As Spam" > and "Recover From Spam" buttons do not work. Next time it stops working, please send us a copy of your most recent log file. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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However I do find it works if entered in the Start-Run drop-down box -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer at ihug.co.nz] Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 10:41 PM To: Andrew Seabrook Cc: spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Unable to run in an All-Users situation > The troubleshooting guide says: >>>>>>> > It is possible to register the addin so it is available to all > users on a > particular machine, which can be useful in enterprise arrangements > where > users have 'roaming profiles'. > To register SpamBayes in this way, you must log on as a user with > permissions to modify the system registry, then execute the command > (with > the correct path substituted): > "c:\Program Files\SpamBayes\bin\outlook_addin_register.exe" > hkey_local_machine > >>>>>>> > So which key should this be applied to, or if I am missing > something, where > do I execute this command? In a command prompt (e.g. Start->Run->cmd.exe). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From andyseabrook at virtualenergygroup.co.uk Sun Nov 20 15:54:07 2005 From: andyseabrook at virtualenergygroup.co.uk (Andrew Seabrook) Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 14:54:07 -0000 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem installing in an All-User situation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <005801c5ede2$46f6d320$0100a8c0@silverbeast> Hello Tony, Spambayes was installed in a full-Administrator session, in which it works as expected. It is not subsequently visible during a user session. This exists: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Office\Outlook\Addins\SpamBayes.Outloo kAddin Keys at this location are: CommandLineSafe = 0 Description = SpamBayes anti spam tool FriendlyName = SpamBayes LoadBehaviour = 3 -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Tony Meyer Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 10:47 PM To: Andy Seabrook Cc: SpamBayes mailing list Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Problem installing in an All-User situation > Anyway. The log reports as it should, after the command is > executed, however > still no spambayes in outlook after user logon. Does it work the the user that did the install? Does installing work for a single user? Does the registry key exist? (in HKLM\Software \Microsoft\Office\Outlook\Addins\) =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. _______________________________________________ SpamBayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From claude_jones at levitjames.com Sun Nov 20 16:37:34 2005 From: claude_jones at levitjames.com (Claude Jones) Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 10:37:34 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] new Kmail feature Message-ID: <200511201037.34803.claude_jones@levitjames.com> I've just installed KDE 3.5 rc1 on my Fedora Core box. While going through the settings in Kmail, I activated the antispam wizard. The first thing it does is search for antispam software on the computer. It found Spambayes, and gave me some configuration options, mostly involving where to put detected spam and where to put unsure. Once I'd done that, a couple of icons appeared in the menu bar, one for classify as spam and one for classify as ham. If I tell it to classify some message as spam, the message is immediately removed from the folder and sent to trash. I'm wondering if this has been implemented in conjunction with the Spambayes team - that's one question. The second is more regarding how this works. If any one knows - if I click on the classify as spam icon in the toolbar, does that classification get processed into my spambayes database? -- Claude Jones Bluemont, VA, USA From kirebrow at yahoo.com Mon Nov 21 02:46:52 2005 From: kirebrow at yahoo.com (Erik Brown) Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 19:46:52 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes and TREC In-Reply-To: <30533149-F84A-46CA-9586-E7E85B1F7B34@ihug.co.nz> Message-ID: <20051121004652.PPZB9366.ibm69aec.bellsouth.net@ENLIGHTENED> Tony, This is interesting! Please keep us updated on your research! Erik Brown -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer at ihug.co.nz] Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 5:26 PM To: Erik Brown Cc: spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] SpamBayes and TREC > How did SpamBayes perform in the TREC 2005 testing? Do you have any > numbers? For a start, you can see the information here: http:// plg.uwaterloo.ca/~gvcormac/trecspamtrack05/ At some point during the registration process TREC latched on to "Massey University" (where I was working at the time, but completely uninvolved with SpamBayes) as my 'organisation name', so you may see that in some of the results. Just substitute "SpamBayes" for "Massey University" wherever you see it. I'll make my notebook paper available when I have a chance, and (once it's done) my proceedings paper. In brief, SpamBayes did better than I expected (towards the bottom of the top ten) considering that it is designed to classify as ham/ unsure/spam, not ham/spam, and considering that I didn't make any special effort to change options, etc (in fact, it seems that the best variant of SpamBayes was the out-of-the-box one), nor did I put any effort into determining what the single cutoff should be. What surprised me the most was that the train-on-everything variant seems to have performed the best. I'm still looking into this; I hope to have more details by the time the proceedings paper is finished. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tim.peters at gmail.com Mon Nov 21 02:33:52 2005 From: tim.peters at gmail.com (Tim Peters) Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 20:33:52 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes and TREC In-Reply-To: <30533149-F84A-46CA-9586-E7E85B1F7B34@ihug.co.nz> References: <20051118221318.BLJW20891.ibm70aec.bellsouth.net@ENLIGHTENED> <30533149-F84A-46CA-9586-E7E85B1F7B34@ihug.co.nz> Message-ID: <1f7befae0511201733u53590622w28d66456472f7ffa@mail.gmail.com> [Erik Brown] >> How did SpamBayes perform in the TREC 2005 testing? Do you have any >> numbers? [Tony Meyer] > For a start, you can see the information here: > http://plg.uwaterloo.ca/~gvcormac/trecspamtrack05/ Lots of info, but kinda dry ;-) > At some point during the registration process TREC latched on to > "Massey University" (where I was working at the time, but completely > uninvolved with SpamBayes) as my 'organisation name', so you may see > that in some of the results. Just substitute "SpamBayes" for "Massey > University" wherever you see it. > > I'll make my notebook paper available when I have a chance, and (once > it's done) my proceedings paper. > > In brief, SpamBayes did better than I expected (towards the bottom of > the top ten) considering that it is designed to classify as ham/ > unsure/spam, not ham/spam, and considering that I didn't make any > special effort to change options, etc (in fact, it seems that the > best variant of SpamBayes was the out-of-the-box one), nor did I put > any effort into determining what the single cutoff should be. I'll note that SB is also designed far more to cater to individual quirks than to any consensus view of what "ham" and "spam" are. That makes it an excellent choice for urologists and gynecologists . > What surprised me the most was that the train-on-everything variant > seems to have performed the best. I'm still looking into this; I > hope to have more details by the time the proceedings paper is finished. In the TREC exposure I had in the speech recognition business, they had a large set of test data and sent out a random sample for training purposes. The test data was static (didn't change over time), so a random sample could be expected to more-than-less faithfully represent the statistics of the population as a whole. Same kind of thing here? If so, TOE works best on static data (which doesn't exist in real life <0.5 wink>). Anyway, congratulations on getting through the process, Tony! The thrill of being rich and famous fades over time, so enjoy it while it's fresh ;-) From Ken.Brook at nrm.qld.gov.au Mon Nov 21 03:00:29 2005 From: Ken.Brook at nrm.qld.gov.au (Brook Ken) Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 12:00:29 +1000 Subject: [Spambayes] Delete as Spam button doesn't work Message-ID: <95473FA275D8124EA6101A77D6CD1B1DE726F3@INDMAIL.lands.resnet.qg> Dear Spambayes. Am running Windows XP Server Pack 1 Outlook 2003 Delete as spam button doesn't work. But otherwise program seems to work fine. Messages do get filtered and put into Junk suspects folder. Tried reinstalling Tried 1.0.3 and 1.1a Tried cache mode suggestion But Delete as Spam button doesn't work Tried 3 attempts to delete Eduardo message as spam (see below) .... C:\Program Files\SpamBayes C:\Program Files\SpamBayes\lib\spambayes.modules\spambayes\languages Loaded bayes database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\brookk\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db' Loaded message database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\brookk\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db' Bayes database initialized with 98 spam and 112 good messages SpamBayes Outlook Addin Version 1.1a1 (April 2005) on Windows 5.1.2600 (Service Pack 1) using Python 2.4 (#60, Nov 30 2004, 11:49:19) [MSC v.1310 32 bit (Intel)] Log created Mon Nov 21 11:57:10 2005 SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Brook Ken/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Brook Ken/Junk Suspects' Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer Moving and spam training message 'Re: Eduardo No more Failure' - Training on message 'Re: Eduardo No more Failure' in 'Brook Ken/Junk Suspects - already was trained as spam Moving and spam training message 'Re: Eduardo No more Failure' - Training on message 'Re: Eduardo No more Failure' in 'Brook Ken/Junk Suspects - already was trained as spam Moving and spam training message 'Re: Eduardo No more Failure' - Training on message 'Re: Eduardo No more Failure' Any ideas thankfully received Regards Ken. ************************************************************************ The information in this e-mail together with any attachments is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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He said: However after downloading SpamBayes I went through the steps to install it and I keep getting this message: Unable to register the DLL/OCX: DllRegisterServer failed; code 0x00000000. Any ideas? TIA - Bill H. -- We take security very seriously. All outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. To boost YOUR security visit The Hacker's Nightmare: http://HackersNightmare.com. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.4/176 - Release Date: 20/11/2005 From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Nov 22 05:44:36 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:44:36 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Plugin Error In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Hi. I just received a query from a client to whom I recommended > SB O/look Plugin. He said: > > However after downloading SpamBayes I went through the steps to > install it and I keep getting this message: Unable to register > the DLL/OCX: DllRegisterServer failed; code 0x00000000. Is the user doing the install an administrator? Do you know what version of Windows/Outlook? =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From marcius at unimedtatui.com.br Tue Nov 22 10:24:40 2005 From: marcius at unimedtatui.com.br (marcius@unimedtatui.com.br) Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 07:24:40 -0200 Subject: [Spambayes] E-mail Bloqueado - AVISO!!! Message-ID: <200511220924.jAM9Oe8P014317@autocom.unimedtatui.com.br> O e-mail abaixo indicado foi bloqueado por este servidor, pois contém um anexo. Arquivos anexados são potencialmente perigosos por constituir meio de propagação de vírus e worms de e-mail. The following e-mail was blocked by this server because it contains an attachment. Attachment files are potentially dangerous, as they are used for e-mail virus and worms propagation. Cabeçalho do e-mail bloqueado!!!: Data : Tue, 22 Nov 2005 09:20:16 -0200 Assunto : :) De : spambayes at python.org Para : pcmso at unimedtatui.com.br Cc : Bcc : Arquivos : zerado.zip Mensagem gerada automáticamente - automatic message ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sistema de bloqueios de E-mails com virus Unimed Tatuí Departamento de Informatica - marcius at unimedtatui.com.br ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jonathan.phillips at leighcreekas.sa.edu.au Wed Nov 23 00:10:11 2005 From: jonathan.phillips at leighcreekas.sa.edu.au (Jonathan Phillips) Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 09:40:11 +1030 Subject: [Spambayes] Setup wizard Message-ID: <20051122231029.9582C13C2A6@decs-smtp3.decs.sa.edu.au> To whom it may concern, I am running a PC with Outlook 2003, and Win XP Pro (service pack 2) on it, and I have recently installed Spambayes. 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Regards, Terry :-) From drose at nla.gov.au Wed Nov 23 23:02:16 2005 From: drose at nla.gov.au (Daniel Rose) Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 09:02:16 +1100 Subject: [Spambayes] FW: SpamBayes Message-ID: <3F8819281E85774CA6CE6F4FB842874F01FABE0B@gimli.shire.nla.gov.au> >-----Original Message----- >From: spambayes-bounces at python.org >[mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Sassone, Terry >Sent: Thursday, 24 November 2005 05:40 >To: spambayes at python.org >Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes > > >Have you seen where Spambayes keeps creating a second Junk >E-mail folder >called "Junk E-mail1" If you delete it, a few days later it >comes back. >But no mails ever gets sent there?? I also have this problem in Office 2002 on Windows 2000 across a number of computers, so you are not alone. It's not very common though, maybe 5% of the installed base? From cmcintire at earthlink.net Thu Nov 24 03:19:37 2005 From: cmcintire at earthlink.net (Charlie & Urs) Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 21:19:37 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Complicated Message-ID: <000601c5f09d$88a87400$0300a8c0@CLEO> Hello there, I just started using Spam Bayes at work on Outlook. Easy to install and I love it. I thought that I would install it at home on Outlook Express. No way. I could have deleted a years worth of spam in the time that I have spent trying to understand the installation. I am no sure it is hard but the terminology is confusing. I am not willing to risk having no email to get it going. Having said all that, you have done some good work here and I will just wait until you get it refined before I give it another go. Happy holidays, Charlie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051123/53f44a49/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Nov 24 10:01:05 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 22:01:05 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] Removing Spambayes In-Reply-To: <001c01c5f052$aa5c5710$0400a8c0@17hplaptop> References: <001c01c5f052$aa5c5710$0400a8c0@17hplaptop> Message-ID: <64B58716-73CF-48C0-B480-E5BBDE5F282B@ihug.co.nz> > I?ve had great luck with the program, but have decided to remove it. > However, it doesn?t show up on the add/remove list, so what do I do? It should; it might be worth checking again just to be sure (if it isn't there, then the most likely explanation is that the Add/Remove list was damaged (registry problems can do this). The easiest way to remove it would be to reinstall and the use the Add/Remove control panel (the reinstall will get it back there). The more complicated way would be to remove everything manually - unregister the addin by running the "register_outlook_addin.exe" (in the "bin" directory) with "--unregister" in the command line, and delete the folder you installed it into (probably C:\Program Files \SpamBayes). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Nov 24 10:05:45 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 22:05:45 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: [Terry Sassone] > Have you seen where Spambayes keeps creating a second Junk E-mail > folder > called "Junk E-mail1" If you delete it, a few days later it comes > back. > But no mails ever gets sent there?? There is no code in SpamBayes that can do this (since it's open- source, you can check if you like). The configuration wizard will create a folder named (exactly) "Junk E-Mail" if you wish, or you can manually create folders in the folder dialogs, but there's otherwise no code to create folders. "Junk E-mail1" isn't anywhere in the code base. [Daniel Rose] > I also have this problem in Office 2002 on Windows 2000 across a > number > of computers, so you are not alone. It's not very common though, > maybe > 5% of the installed base? The most likely explanation is that these users have something else installed that is doing this (perhaps a previous spam filter). Perhaps you and Terry could work together to figure out what the common denominator is. To demonstrate that it's not SpamBayes, if you disable SpamBayes (or uninstall it), you will find that the behaviour continues. (Of course, you'll have to deal with spam some other way while you wait for it ;) =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Nov 24 10:13:34 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 22:13:34 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] Complicated In-Reply-To: <000601c5f09d$88a87400$0300a8c0@CLEO> References: <000601c5f09d$88a87400$0300a8c0@CLEO> Message-ID: <2A8B4EC2-CB25-4E44-9792-1314D9919ECF@ihug.co.nz> > I thought that I would install it at home on Outlook Express. No > way. I could have deleted a years worth of spam in the time that I > have spent trying to understand the installation. I am no sure it > is hard but the terminology is confusing. I am not willing to risk > having no email to get it going. The problems here are: (a) This is a project where all contributions are made by volunteers working in their 'spare time'. In addition, the most common contributions are ones that benefit the contributor themselves; I don't think any developer uses Outlook Express, so contributions towards this have to be somewhat more altruistic than normal. (b) Outlook Express is an extremely limited mail client (Microsoft would like you to buy Outlook/Office). This means that there's more to setting it up than there is with other clients (e.g. Eudora, Thunderbird), and a plug-in (like with Outlook) isn't feasible. > Having said all that, you have done some good work here and I will > just wait until you get it refined before I give it another go. Unfortunately, you may be waiting a long time. There is a partially completed automatic configuration script, but it hasn't been worked on for some time, and is pretty far down my list (and probably not even on anyone else's). However, on a brighter note, there is a step-by-step guide, which we have made as simple as possible (suggestions are always welcome) at FAQ 4.21: If you do decide to give it a go, and you run into trouble, please don't hesitate to ask for help here (please be as specific as possible about where you are up to, and what is going wrong). If something does go wrong (it's a pretty simple process, so it shouldn't, but...), then to revert to how things were before you set it up, all you have to do is change the settings in Outlook Express back to connect directly to your mail server. No mail will be lost, it will still be waiting on the server to be collected. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Nov 24 10:16:52 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 22:16:52 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] Setup wizard In-Reply-To: <20051122231029.9582C13C2A6@decs-smtp3.decs.sa.edu.au> References: <20051122231029.9582C13C2A6@decs-smtp3.decs.sa.edu.au> Message-ID: <7AC3A787-C869-487E-B6CD-DA99642D1213@ihug.co.nz> > I am running a PC with Outlook 2003, and Win XP Pro (service pack > 2) on it, and I have recently installed Spambayes. Though according > to the instructions for installation that I have it says that when > I next start up Outlook that it should start a Setup wizard. This > hasn?t happened, is there a reason for this? And is there a way to > rectify the problem? Do you have a SpamBayes toolbar? If you do, then you can choose "SpamBayes Manager" from there and then click the button to start the wizard. If it's not, check to see if Outlook has disabled the plug-in (this would be unusual for a first-run). Help->About Microsoft Outlook- >Disabled Items. If that's not the case, check to see if SpamBayes is installed - look to see if it is in the Add/Remove Programs Control Panel list. (If it's not, try the install again). If it is installed, but not in Outlook, please see if there is a SpamBayes log file, and if there is, send us a copy. This will probably be in "\Documents and Settings\{username}\Application Data \SpamBayes\" and be called SpamBayes1.log. Note that the Application Data folder is hidden by default; if you type the path in the Address Bar, that will get you to it. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Nov 24 10:20:20 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 22:20:20 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] new Kmail feature In-Reply-To: <200511201037.34803.claude_jones@levitjames.com> References: <200511201037.34803.claude_jones@levitjames.com> Message-ID: <933D09EF-2B3F-45B8-90FC-69CE062806FE@ihug.co.nz> > I'm wondering if this has been implemented in conjunction with the > Spambayes > team - that's one question. Not to my knowledge (certainly nothing has been posted on spambayes- dev, and I expect if they contacted someone off-list, like Tim, that person would have let everyone else know). > The second is more regarding how this works. If any one knows - if > I click on > the classify as spam icon in the toolbar, does that classification get > processed into my spambayes database? Try it and see :) (I have no idea). I suspect that if they have gone to the effort of finding specific software (at a guess, the more popular/common open-source anti-spam software) they will have gone to the effort of setting it all up so that it works correctly. If you do find out anything more, feel free to update us! =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Nov 24 10:21:52 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 22:21:52 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem installing in an All-User situation In-Reply-To: <005801c5ede2$46f6d320$0100a8c0@silverbeast> References: <005801c5ede2$46f6d320$0100a8c0@silverbeast> Message-ID: <363B9BCE-D7AD-4DCE-93B6-08EDD6D965BF@ihug.co.nz> > Spambayes was installed in a full-Administrator session, in which > it works > as expected. > > It is not subsequently visible during a user session. > > This exists: > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Office\Outlook\Addins > \SpamBayes.OutlookAddin Hmm. I don't suppose Outlook has disabled it for the other users? (Help->About Microsoft Outlook->Disabled Items; it won't be listed in the COM add-ins list). Does a log file get created when you start Outlook as one of the other users? Is there anything unusual about this machine? (Apart from this ). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Nov 24 10:26:06 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 22:26:06 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] Flaw? In-Reply-To: <000801c5ec08$25472440$4a12e155@michael> References: <000801c5ec08$25472440$4a12e155@michael> Message-ID: <86DD80B0-6F5F-44DE-B22E-8D58C461656C@ihug.co.nz> > The Not Spam Option does not seem to function in my case. Once a > source has been tagged as spam ? it stays spam. The button should do two things: (1) move the message back to its original location (or the Inbox if that can't be determined). (2) train the classifier that the message is ham (untraining first if necessary). Is it doing (1) for you? It's harder to judge (2), because you don't really see this training; however, you should notice that classification quickly gets accurate if you continue to train. If it's not doing (1), please try it again (to generate the log entries) and send us a copy of your most recent log (SpamBayes- >SpamBayes Manager->Advanced->Diagnostics->View Log). If it is doing (1), but you don't think it's doing (2) (i.e. it keeps making mistakes), please select a message it misclassifies - before you train it - and choose "Show spam clues for this message" from the SpamBayes menu, and send us the message it creates (with an explanatory note at the top). Because SpamBayes starts out with no knowledge at all, there's no way for us to know what it's making the decisions it is without seeing the clues specific to the training you have done. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Nov 24 10:28:51 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 22:28:51 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] Intermittent SpamBayes crashes In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20051117220929.02cfbc18@localhost> References: <6.2.1.2.0.20051117220929.02cfbc18@localhost> Message-ID: > I have been getting intermittent crashes of SpamBayes. > I have attached the Server log that shows one such problem. (Which shows an "invalid argument" socket error). > Note that when I have such crashes, and then go to turn off my > computer, I get "interesting" error messages about problems in > Windows. It is quite possible the problem is elsewhere in my > system, but extensive diagnostics do not show anything. Do other programs that use the network connection have problems? > The only other evidence I have is that the crashes were more > frequent last week when I had intermittent connectivity. (I was > using wireless at a meeting, and it was broken quite often.) [...] > Is there any way to tell if this is a SpamBayes bug or a problem on > my machine? I've never seen this particular socket error before. I'm not 100%, but my guess is that this is a problem with the network connection (which could be on your machine, or the device that's providing the connection, or the line, ...) and that SpamBayes isn't handling the error very well (it really ought to just ignore it and get on with it). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Nov 24 10:29:39 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 22:29:39 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] HELP In-Reply-To: <05FA657B639E574E9E79DF67B806ECD101189CAA@sbs01.uti.local> References: <05FA657B639E574E9E79DF67B806ECD101189CAA@sbs01.uti.local> Message-ID: <6065C2C0-64C5-4A60-A683-29D35972CC85@ihug.co.nz> > I am on Windows XP and was running spambays for a long time. > However, we had some major problems with email and hurricane Wilma > and since my boss made some changes spambays no longer worked. I > deleted the program and even if I try to reload, it is not working. See if Outlook has disabled the plug-in: Help->About Microsoft Outlook->Disabled Items. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Nov 24 10:31:46 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 22:31:46 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes compatibility issue? In-Reply-To: <947869D80E39884D8207B9F253BB4D7002DF96E0@tewk-mbpf3.global.avidww.com> References: <947869D80E39884D8207B9F253BB4D7002DF96E0@tewk-mbpf3.global.avidww.com> Message-ID: > When I run Outlook on the new machine, during Send/Receive, the > filter function transfers files to the SPAM & SPAM_SUSPECTS folders > as expected, but then the files are moved BACK into my INBOX, often > with different spam scores than those I observed (briefly) in the > SPAM folders. Files that ?bounce back? from my SPAM folder are > marked as read (as instructed for items moved the SPAM folder), > while items that bounce back from my SPAM_SUSPECTS folder are > marked as unread (again, as instructed). Note that this is > observational and anecdotal data ? the ?bounceback? is quite rapid, > so I haven?t been able to capture a listing to verify/document some > of this behavior. [...] > Has anyone else seen this type of behavior? Not that I recall offhand. > Is there a pilot error involved here (I hope)? Probably . > Is there more data that I could collect on this problem? The log file would be particularly useful. The next time this occurs, please send us a copy of the log file, before you manually do the filtering. SpamBayes->SpamBayes Manager->Advanced->Diagnostics- >View Log. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Nov 24 10:34:18 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 22:34:18 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes will not load In-Reply-To: <000001c5ea0e$0694bd60$6501a8c0@home.local> References: <000001c5ea0e$0694bd60$6501a8c0@home.local> Message-ID: <670EC9CC-61CB-4C2D-9D3E-88D81A8972A5@ihug.co.nz> > I had a head crash and had to reinstall all my software again. > > I installed the executable version of SpamBayes from a User Account. I believe that you have to do the install as an administrator (at least, you'll need access to write to the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE registry section, and create files in '\Program Files'). If you give the user admin rights, do the install, then take the rights away, that should work. However, since you've tried this as an administrator, it's unlikely to be the only problem. > When I load up the binary version of SpamBayes from the same user > account - > nothing happens. The logfile is attached. Unfortunately, nothing was attached. Could you try again? > I am running Windows XP Pro with Service Pack 2. (I have run this as > administrator as well - and the same happened) The first thing to check would be if Outlook has disabled the plug- in: Help->About Microsoft Outlook->Disabled Items. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From cmcintire at earthlink.net Thu Nov 24 14:32:01 2005 From: cmcintire at earthlink.net (Charlie & Urs) Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 08:32:01 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Complicated References: <000601c5f09d$88a87400$0300a8c0@CLEO> <2A8B4EC2-CB25-4E44-9792-1314D9919ECF@ihug.co.nz> Message-ID: <001b01c5f0fb$76ccfbd0$0300a8c0@CLEO> Hello Tony, I really appreciate your quick response and the candor of its content. It is refreshing. Much better than I would get from a "for profit" company. In the light of a new day I will probably give it another go. My wife visited your fair country a couple of years ago and still talks about it. A fascinating country. Good luck with your project. Charlie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Meyer" To: "Charlie & Urs" Cc: Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 4:13 AM Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Complicated >> I thought that I would install it at home on Outlook Express. No way. I >> could have deleted a years worth of spam in the time that I have spent >> trying to understand the installation. I am no sure it is hard but the >> terminology is confusing. I am not willing to risk having no email to >> get it going. > > The problems here are: > > (a) This is a project where all contributions are made by volunteers > working in their 'spare time'. In addition, the most common > contributions are ones that benefit the contributor themselves; I don't > think any developer uses Outlook Express, so contributions towards this > have to be somewhat more altruistic than normal. > > (b) Outlook Express is an extremely limited mail client (Microsoft > would like you to buy Outlook/Office). This means that there's more to > setting it up than there is with other clients (e.g. Eudora, > Thunderbird), and a plug-in (like with Outlook) isn't feasible. > >> Having said all that, you have done some good work here and I will just >> wait until you get it refined before I give it another go. > > Unfortunately, you may be waiting a long time. There is a partially > completed automatic configuration script, but it hasn't been worked on > for some time, and is pretty far down my list (and probably not even on > anyone else's). > > However, on a brighter note, there is a step-by-step guide, which we have > made as simple as possible (suggestions are always welcome) at FAQ 4.21: > and-outlook-express> > > If you do decide to give it a go, and you run into trouble, please don't > hesitate to ask for help here (please be as specific as possible about > where you are up to, and what is going wrong). > > If something does go wrong (it's a pretty simple process, so it > shouldn't, but...), then to revert to how things were before you set it > up, all you have to do is change the settings in Outlook Express back to > connect directly to your mail server. No mail will be lost, it will > still be waiting on the server to be collected. > > =Tony.Meyer > > -- > Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies > (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. > http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.5/178 - Release Date: 11/22/2005 > > From jobs at ultrastarmovies.com Thu Nov 24 16:32:15 2005 From: jobs at ultrastarmovies.com (Human Resources) Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 10:32:15 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Email Received Message-ID: Thank you for your interest in UltraStar Cinemas. We have received your inquiry and it will be forwarded to the appropriate parties. Please note that we are not able to open attachements. If you have sent your resume as an attachment, please paste it into the body of the email and resend. Sincerely, UltraStar Human Resources From joel at stevecrocker.com Thu Nov 24 20:31:17 2005 From: joel at stevecrocker.com (Joel M. Halpern) Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 14:31:17 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Intermittent SpamBayes crashes In-Reply-To: References: <6.2.1.2.0.20051117220929.02cfbc18@localhost> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20051124142834.02cfb308@mail.stevecrocker.com> It does appear that the error handling in SpamBayes is not the root problem (the intermittent connectivity is the root problem.) However, it appears that the error handling in SpamBayes causes the server to get so confused that it damages critical parts of the system. At least twice the system memory management tables were corrupted. Because I often have weak connectivity, I have had redirect Eudora not to use SpamBayes. Yours, Joel At 04:28 AM 11/24/2005, Tony Meyer wrote: >>I have been getting intermittent crashes of SpamBayes. >>I have attached the Server log that shows one such problem. > >(Which shows an "invalid argument" socket error). > >>Note that when I have such crashes, and then go to turn off my >>computer, I get "interesting" error messages about problems in >>Windows. It is quite possible the problem is elsewhere in my >>system, but extensive diagnostics do not show anything. > >Do other programs that use the network connection have problems? > >>The only other evidence I have is that the crashes were more >>frequent last week when I had intermittent connectivity. (I was >>using wireless at a meeting, and it was broken quite often.) >[...] >>Is there any way to tell if this is a SpamBayes bug or a problem on >>my machine? > >I've never seen this particular socket error before. I'm not 100%, >but my guess is that this is a problem with the network connection >(which could be on your machine, or the device that's providing the >connection, or the line, ...) and that SpamBayes isn't handling the >error very well (it really ought to just ignore it and get on with it). > >=Tony.Meyer > >-- >Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies >(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. >http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. > From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Nov 24 21:19:42 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 09:19:42 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] Recover from Button In-Reply-To: <7C3E0164FEFA5648888D39BFD41D937D03ECB1FC@emsbax27.resdom.droot.net> References: <7C3E0164FEFA5648888D39BFD41D937D03ECB1FC@emsbax27.resdom.droot.net> Message-ID: > the "recover from" button functions well as far as recovering the > item from > "spam suspect" into my email input folder. Problem is, the recover > will be > forgotten: that means, > when I get the very same email, it will be pushed into "spam suspect" > again... Please see FAQ's 4.7, 4.8 and 4.9: In particular, note that we can't hope to guess why a message is classified as it is without seeing the clues for the message. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Nov 24 21:20:53 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 09:20:53 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] No Tool Bar In-Reply-To: <152896A220F925469AD211108A73E39407D3BC4E@USBB-EXCH2.na.uis.unisys.com> References: <152896A220F925469AD211108A73E39407D3BC4E@USBB-EXCH2.na.uis.unisys.com> Message-ID: > My Spam E-bayes tool bar is no visable, an ideas Please see if Outlook has disabled the plug-in: Help->About Microsoft Outlook->Disabled Items. If that isn't the case, check to see if it's just hidden: right-click on the toolbar area, and see if SpamBayes is an option there. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Nov 24 21:25:16 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 09:25:16 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] Request, extending the functionality for other kinds of classifications? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7C6B53B4-5DD4-465A-A8AA-CA03F62ED76C@ihug.co.nz> > My questions is: I wonder how hard it would be to be able to extend > SpamBays so it can be used for other kind of classifications? My > idea is that why not be able to classify mails as: important, > medium,low ,private or so and use the same technology to train to > filter for doing different classifications. Then people which > receives a lot of mail could get a first classification and process > the most important mails first. You should try POPfile: , which lets you train the classifier to output into multiple categories. There's also an Outlook plug-in: =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Nov 24 21:26:57 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 09:26:57 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] MSN Email In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6457ACC9-2871-4E8A-8380-9D5FECD7568A@ihug.co.nz> > How do configure for MSN email? Forgive my ignorance, but is MSN email email from an account at MSN, that you read in a regular email client, like Outlook or Outlook Express, or some sort of webmail, like Hotmail or gmail, or some sort of dedicated mail client? If the latter, do you know how it gets the mail? (Are there settings somewhere that ask for a POP3 or IMAP4 mail server?) =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Nov 24 21:31:03 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 09:31:03 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] Intermittent SpamBayes crashes In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20051124142834.02cfb308@mail.stevecrocker.com> References: <6.2.1.2.0.20051117220929.02cfbc18@localhost> <6.2.1.2.0.20051124142834.02cfb308@mail.stevecrocker.com> Message-ID: <9754553E-B869-426F-A878-6B24501A87E7@ihug.co.nz> > However, it appears that the error handling in SpamBayes causes the > server to get so confused that it damages critical parts of the > system. At least twice the system memory management tables were > corrupted. I find this difficult to believe. SpamBayes isn't doing anything unusual, it's just listening/writing to sockets like any other network-using software. The worst that can happen is that a Python exception is raised and SpamBayes crashes or hangs; there's no way I know of that it could effect any other part of the system (other than collecting email, since that's done via SpamBayes). I suspect that you'll find that the problem continues, and that there's a deeper problem somewhere. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Nov 24 21:32:58 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 09:32:58 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] bug? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > It stopped working. [log containing bsddb errors] Your database is corrupted. You'll need to retrain from scratch; either delete the two database files (the FAQ explains where they are), or retrain using the SpamBayes Manager's Training tab, ticking the "Rebuild entire database" box. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Nov 24 21:35:07 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 09:35:07 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] Delete as Spam button doesn't work In-Reply-To: <95473FA275D8124EA6101A77D6CD1B1DE726F3@INDMAIL.lands.resnet.qg> References: <95473FA275D8124EA6101A77D6CD1B1DE726F3@INDMAIL.lands.resnet.qg> Message-ID: <8AD4F0F0-3233-4109-9D17-BE6BE0D0F643@ihug.co.nz> > Tried 3 attempts to delete Eduardo message as spam (see below) ?. [...] > SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Brook Ken/Inbox' > > SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Brook Ken/Junk > Suspects' > > Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer > > Moving and spam training message 'Re: Eduardo No more Failure' - > Training on message 'Re: Eduardo No more Failure' in 'Brook Ken/ > Junk Suspects - already was trained as spam > > Moving and spam training message 'Re: Eduardo No more Failure' - > Training on message 'Re: Eduardo No more Failure' in 'Brook Ken/ > Junk Suspects - already was trained as spam > > Moving and spam training message 'Re: Eduardo No more Failure' - > Training on message 'Re: Eduardo No more Failure' This is quite strange - everything appears to be working from the log. Is the spam folder definitely configured correctly? You say that messages still end up in the unsure folder, but you didn't mention the spam folder. I would suggest reselecting it, and seeing if that fixes the problem. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Nov 24 21:38:47 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 09:38:47 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] here's a really tough one, but at least it scored unsure! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5F8D6C84-CC34-47B2-BAC4-2E8AC7C556B7@ihug.co.nz> > V P A V X C > I r m A a I > A o b L n A > G z i I a L > R a e U x I > A c n M S > $69,95 $85,45 $99,95 > http://armelaurofishruner.tripod.com [...] > I've got to hand it to these folks for deviousness. Looks like it > came > through a trojaned dynamic IP machine in Mexico. And the results... Do you really think that these messages actually sell anything? Don't people receiving it see a bunch of junk? I've also seen this one using CSS rather than tables, BTW. To counter these sorts of tricks requires moving into 'eye-space', which means building an HTML/CSS renderer, which would be a big task, and I'm not convinced it would be that worth it. I think messages like this are better countered with other techniques (that trojaned machine could well have been on a blacklist somewhere, for example, or we can check out the content of the URL, as the experimental slurping options do). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Nov 24 21:40:22 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 09:40:22 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] Love Spambayes, but I wonder if In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4928D1CB-AACC-449F-AB28-5BB7ABCCEEA8@ihug.co.nz> > I've start experimenting with Spambayes a bit more on my home Linux > machine. [experimental setup snipped] Just FYI: if you continue to experiment, you might wish to try the tte.py script in the contrib directory. It shouldn't be very difficult to integrate into the setup you described, and it seems that it gives very good results. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Nov 24 21:46:04 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 09:46:04 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] second attempt In-Reply-To: References: <000801c5e7f2$529d2760$bd43ff04@shaydeb> Message-ID: <80A46E51-CFF3-4F59-9A7E-29706F077D27@ihug.co.nz> >> I sent the email below last week, but still haven't heard anything >> from anyone - is there anyone out there who can help me???? > > I'm sorry, but no-one here seems to know what's going on with your > machine. I've never seen this behaviour before, and I don't really > know > what to suggest. The only thing I can think of is that there's something in the log files. Debbie: if you're still interested in trying to figure this out, could you get hold of the log file next time this occurs and send it to us? The troubleshooting guide explains how to find the log: =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From joel at stevecrocker.com Thu Nov 24 22:01:16 2005 From: joel at stevecrocker.com (Joel M. Halpern) Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 16:01:16 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Intermittent SpamBayes crashes In-Reply-To: <9754553E-B869-426F-A878-6B24501A87E7@ihug.co.nz> References: <6.2.1.2.0.20051117220929.02cfbc18@localhost> <6.2.1.2.0.20051124142834.02cfb308@mail.stevecrocker.com> <9754553E-B869-426F-A878-6B24501A87E7@ihug.co.nz> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20051124155945.02e60458@mail.stevecrocker.com> Thank you for the reply. What you say matches my expectations. However, once I stopped passing the email through SpamBayes, the machine has stopped crashing. Possibly the problem is whatever was causing the underlying error that crashed SpamBayes. I have tried the machine diagnostics, and nothing appears to be broken. But I will keep watching for outside problems. Yours, Joel At 03:31 PM 11/24/2005, Tony Meyer wrote: >>However, it appears that the error handling in SpamBayes causes the >>server to get so confused that it damages critical parts of the >>system. At least twice the system memory management tables were >>corrupted. > >I find this difficult to believe. SpamBayes isn't doing anything >unusual, it's just listening/writing to sockets like any other >network-using software. The worst that can happen is that a Python >exception is raised and SpamBayes crashes or hangs; there's no way I >know of that it could effect any other part of the system (other than >collecting email, since that's done via SpamBayes). > >I suspect that you'll find that the problem continues, and that >there's a deeper problem somewhere. > >=Tony.Meyer > >-- >Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies >(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. >http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. > From sethg at GoodmanAssociates.com Fri Nov 25 04:48:47 2005 From: sethg at GoodmanAssociates.com (Seth Goodman) Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 21:48:47 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] here's a really tough one, but at least it scored unsure! In-Reply-To: <5F8D6C84-CC34-47B2-BAC4-2E8AC7C556B7@ihug.co.nz> Message-ID: > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org]On Behalf Of Tony Meyer > Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 2:39 PM > > > > V P A V X C > > I r m A a I > > A o b L n A > > G z i I a L > > R a e U x I > > A c n M S > > $69,95 $85,45 $99,95 > > http://armelaurofishruner.tripod.com > [...] > > I've got to hand it to these folks for deviousness. Looks like > > it came through a trojaned dynamic IP machine in Mexico. > > And the results... > > Do you really think that these messages actually sell anything? I certainly hope not! It's been said before that very few people have gone broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public. > Don't people receiving it see a bunch of junk? I've also seen this > one using CSS rather than tables, BTW. It look like junk to me, but it made me laugh because it's obvious why they did it. The vertical column approach is clever in that they can keep reordering the columns so you won't see consistent letter combinations in the rows and can't train on it. I was satisfied that it scored unsure and intentionally did not add it to my training set. > > To counter these sorts of tricks requires moving into 'eye-space', > which means building an HTML/CSS renderer, which would be a > big task, and I'm not convinced it would be that worth it. Strongly agree. This is outside the solution space of Spambayes. This spam a crude step on the way to passing an image to hide their text completely. Of course, then we get HTML tags and a URL, so I'm not worried. > I think messages like this are better countered with other > techniques (that trojaned machine could well have been on a > blacklist somewhere, for example, or we can check out the > content of the URL, as the experimental slurping options do). I tend to agree. The trojaned machine's IP was not yet blacklisted when it hit my MX, but it was soon after, so other people could reject it. The included URL's don't always last that long, in which case there are blacklists for spamvertised URL's like SURBL http://www.surbl.org/. If the URL is not forcibly taken down, then Spambayes can learn it _and_ SURBL will have it. I haven't felt the need to use SURBL because Spambayes works so well as it is, but it's nice to know that it's there should it be necessary. -- Seth Goodman From tennessee at tennessee.id.au Fri Nov 25 04:52:09 2005 From: tennessee at tennessee.id.au (Tennessee Leeuwenburg) Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 14:52:09 +1100 Subject: [Spambayes] remove from list Message-ID: <43868A69.9070709@tennessee.id.au> Could the list admin please remove me? Maybe I'm being dense, but I can't find the unsubscribe instructions. Cheers -T From tim.peters at gmail.com Fri Nov 25 05:48:45 2005 From: tim.peters at gmail.com (Tim Peters) Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 23:48:45 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] remove from list In-Reply-To: <43868A69.9070709@tennessee.id.au> References: <43868A69.9070709@tennessee.id.au> Message-ID: <1f7befae0511242048q51435462j4e5731711e7c1719@mail.gmail.com> [Tennessee Leeuwenburg] > Could the list admin please remove me? Maybe I'm being dense, but I > can't find the unsubscribe instructions. Go to: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes and look for: To unsubscribe from SpamBayes, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options enter your subscription email address: near the bottom of that page. 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Please contact postmaster at hnse2 for further information. -------------- next part -------------- Segment-Type: MIME;text/plain Segment-Label: 1.1 Scan-Action: virus Scan-Result: none Action-Taken: none Segment-Type: MIME;application/octet-stream Segment-Label: 1.2 Filename: mailtext.zip Scan-Action: virus Scan-Result: infected;W32/Sober at MM!M681 Action-Taken: none -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/rfc822-headers Size: 322 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051125/23bc0c51/attachment.bin From skip at pobox.com Sat Nov 26 03:35:00 2005 From: skip at pobox.com (skip@pobox.com) Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 20:35:00 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] here's a really tough one, but at least it scored unsure! In-Reply-To: <5F8D6C84-CC34-47B2-BAC4-2E8AC7C556B7@ihug.co.nz> References: <5F8D6C84-CC34-47B2-BAC4-2E8AC7C556B7@ihug.co.nz> Message-ID: <17287.51668.86834.92910@montanaro.dyndns.org> Tony> I think messages like this are better countered with other Tony> techniques (that trojaned machine could well have been on a Tony> blacklist somewhere, for example, or we can check out the content Tony> of the URL, as the experimental slurping options do). Another one that's occurred to me recently is a simple recognized/unrecognized flag for the email address. Most spam never seems to come from the same place twice. If you had a database of known addresses (maybe just specified a list of mailboxes from which you know/assume the emails are valid), most spam would get an unrecognized token. Over a fairly short time that would become a very spammy indicator. Just one more token, I know, but probably one that spammers would have trouble working around. BTW, is it just me or is there a current virus storm assaulting the net? Skip From trac at matt-good.net Sat Nov 26 20:53:38 2005 From: trac at matt-good.net (Matthew Good) Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 14:53:38 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] using SpamBayes for Wiki filtering Message-ID: <1133034818.23256.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> I'm looking into spam prevention techniques for the Trac wiki/issue tracking system ( http://projects.edgewall.com/trac ) and was wondering whether SpamBayes could be used as a library for this type of application, or if it was quite specific to email. Are there any other projects using SpamBayes like this that I can use as an example? -- Matthew Good From gilesb at gmail.com Sat Nov 26 20:59:35 2005 From: gilesb at gmail.com (Giles Bowkett) Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 12:59:35 -0700 Subject: [Spambayes] using SpamBayes for Wiki filtering In-Reply-To: <1133034818.23256.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1133034818.23256.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <2d81dedb0511261159l597150aaw514002dffce7f44c@mail.gmail.com> I ***think*** that the code is sufficiently modular that you should be able to code a shell to the core library of spam-filtering stuff. (However I could be totally off-base.) On 11/26/05, Matthew Good wrote: > I'm looking into spam prevention techniques for the Trac wiki/issue > tracking system ( http://projects.edgewall.com/trac ) and was wondering > whether SpamBayes could be used as a library for this type of > application, or if it was quite specific to email. > > Are there any other projects using SpamBayes like this that I can use as > an example? > > -- > Matthew Good > > _______________________________________________ > SpamBayes at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > -- Giles Bowkett = Giles Goat Boy http://www.gilesgoatboy.org/ From wsy at merl.com Sat Nov 26 22:58:29 2005 From: wsy at merl.com (wsy) Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 16:58:29 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] using SpamBayes for Wiki filtering In-Reply-To: <2d81dedb0511261159l597150aaw514002dffce7f44c@mail.gmail.com> (message from Giles Bowkett on Sat, 26 Nov 2005 12:59:35 -0700) References: <1133034818.23256.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> <2d81dedb0511261159l597150aaw514002dffce7f44c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200511262158.jAQLwT3l015758@spoo.merl.com> If SpamBayes isn't flexible enough to do it, there are other classifiers that can be programmed for that sort of work. Send me email if you get stuck on Spambayes. -Bill Yerazunis From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Nov 27 00:16:40 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 12:16:40 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] using SpamBayes for Wiki filtering In-Reply-To: <1133034818.23256.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1133034818.23256.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <939CFAD7-3D1C-4C84-B513-306DFD94334A@ihug.co.nz> > I'm looking into spam prevention techniques for the Trac wiki/issue > tracking system ( http://projects.edgewall.com/trac ) and was > wondering > whether SpamBayes could be used as a library for this type of > application, or if it was quite specific to email. The tokenizer is designed to tokenize email, but you could certainly write your own tokenizer (or subclass the existing one) designed to tokenize wiki pages. Once you've got tokens, you can use the existing classifier and storage classes (classifier.py and storage.py). However, you might find that the email tokenizer does reasonably well on wiki pages; email and web text are not particularly different. It would be worth trying that first. BTW, you want to do something like : >>> from spambayes.tokenizer import tokenize >>> from spambayes.storage import ZODBClassifier >>> c = ZODBClassifier("/Users/tameyer/hammie.db") >>> c.spamprob(tokenize("query text"), True) (0.5, [('*H*', 0.0), ('*S*', 0.0)]) >>> c.learn(tokenize("spam text"), True) >>> c.learn(tokenize("ham text"), False) >>> c.store() >>> c.close() > Are there any other projects using SpamBayes like this that I can > use as > an example? There's a plug-in for a web proxy to use SpamBayes for web filtering in the contrib/ directory. If you google through the archives of this list (or maybe spambayes-dev?) there's an example of Skip using SpamBayes for music classification, IIRC. I've used the classifier & storage for classification of lines of dialogue in a scripted performance. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Nov 27 00:18:19 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 12:18:19 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] Thank you for a great product In-Reply-To: <031201c5dfd6$045f5880$6400a8c0@MartinDell> References: <031201c5dfd6$045f5880$6400a8c0@MartinDell> Message-ID: > Thank you for a great product. So far so good (4 days and counting). [snip] Thanks for the kind words; we really appreciate it :) > And the price is terrific ($0!?!). In case the question mark meant that you weren't sure about this; you're correct, there is absolutely no cost for SpamBayes. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From trac at matt-good.net Sun Nov 27 02:25:18 2005 From: trac at matt-good.net (Matthew Good) Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 20:25:18 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] using SpamBayes for Wiki filtering In-Reply-To: <939CFAD7-3D1C-4C84-B513-306DFD94334A@ihug.co.nz> References: <1133034818.23256.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> <939CFAD7-3D1C-4C84-B513-306DFD94334A@ihug.co.nz> Message-ID: <1133054719.23256.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sun, 2005-11-27 at 12:16 +1300, Tony Meyer wrote: > The tokenizer is designed to tokenize email, but you could certainly > write your own tokenizer (or subclass the existing one) designed to > tokenize wiki pages. Once you've got tokens, you can use the > existing classifier and storage classes (classifier.py and storage.py). > > However, you might find that the email tokenizer does reasonably well > on wiki pages; email and web text are not particularly different. It > would be worth trying that first. Yeah, a lot of the wiki-formatting constructs should be pretty close to what people use in plain-text emails. I may also see how it behaves if I convert it to HTML first instead of using the raw Wiki text. I started writing a subclass of the SQLClassifier in order to store the statistics in the Trac db, which is pretty straightforward. > > Are there any other projects using SpamBayes like this that I can > > use as > > an example? > > There's a plug-in for a web proxy to use SpamBayes for web filtering > in the contrib/ directory. If you google through the archives of > this list (or maybe spambayes-dev?) there's an example of Skip using > SpamBayes for music classification, IIRC. I've used the classifier & > storage for classification of lines of dialogue in a scripted > performance. Thanks, I'll check that out. It looks like using SpamBayes should work out ok. The harder part will probably be adding the appropriate places to the Trac UI for training the classifier (and presumably making this extensible, since we'll want to allow various spam-prevention plugins). -- Matthew Good From dealdone at comcast.net Sun Nov 27 06:25:34 2005 From: dealdone at comcast.net (ADAM) Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 23:25:34 -0600 Subject: [Spambayes] I just wanted to say thanks... Message-ID: <20051127054240.1D51E1E400F@bag.python.org> Your spam killer works miracles. I have only used it for three days but it's working great. Thanks For Being You, Adam -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Once you define a certain number of rules, the additional rules will simply not work without any error messages from Outlook Thanks -- Amir (*) As far as I understand, the limitation is not the number of rules, but rather the total length of all the rules, so it's LIMIT=SUM(length(rule1), length(rule2),...length(ruleN)) where length(ruleX) depends on the number of conditions, length of the text strings being compared, etc. -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Tony Meyer Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 22:25 To: Cc: spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Request,extending the functionality for other kinds of classifications? > My questions is: I wonder how hard it would be to be able to extend > SpamBays so it can be used for other kind of classifications? My idea > is that why not be able to classify mails as: important, medium,low > ,private or so and use the same technology to train to filter for > doing different classifications. Then people which receives a lot of > mail could get a first classification and process the most important > mails first. You should try POPfile: , which lets you train the classifier to output into multiple categories. There's also an Outlook plug-in: =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. _______________________________________________ SpamBayes at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Nov 27 09:40:38 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 21:40:38 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] Request, extending the functionality for other kinds of classifications? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > However, I wonder what will happen if I switch to Outclass/POPfile, > from > the spam angle - would it be better, worse or same? FWIW, in the recent TREC conference, POPfile and SpamBayes achieved reasonably similar results (SpamBayes perhaps slightly better, but then I was an active participant and no-one from POPFile was). You might want to also ask on a POPfile list, in case there are people there that have switched from SpamBayes. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From smadmin at hns.com Sun Nov 27 16:57:43 2005 From: smadmin at hns.com (Sendmail Switch User) Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 10:57:43 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spambayes] Filter scan result notification from hnse2 Message-ID: <200511271557.jARFvhGU022452@hnse2.hns.com> This is a filter detection notice generated by Sendmail Attachment Filter v2.8.1 at hnse2. 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Thanks, Ken Goekjian -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer at ihug.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 4:32 AM To: Ken Goekjian Cc: spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] SpamBayes compatibility issue? > When I run Outlook on the new machine, during Send/Receive, the > filter function transfers files to the SPAM & SPAM_SUSPECTS folders > as expected, but then the files are moved BACK into my INBOX, often > with different spam scores than those I observed (briefly) in the > SPAM folders. Files that "bounce back" from my SPAM folder are > marked as read (as instructed for items moved the SPAM folder), > while items that bounce back from my SPAM_SUSPECTS folder are > marked as unread (again, as instructed). Note that this is > observational and anecdotal data - the "bounceback" is quite rapid, > so I haven't been able to capture a listing to verify/document some > of this behavior. [...] > Has anyone else seen this type of behavior? Not that I recall offhand. > Is there a pilot error involved here (I hope)? Probably . > Is there more data that I could collect on this problem? The log file would be particularly useful. The next time this occurs, please send us a copy of the log file, before you manually do the filtering. SpamBayes->SpamBayes Manager->Advanced->Diagnostics- >View Log. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: spambayes1.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 98081 bytes Desc: spambayes1.log Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051128/c4f581f8/spambayes1-0001.obj From Ken_Goekjian at avid.com Mon Nov 28 22:01:14 2005 From: Ken_Goekjian at avid.com (Ken Goekjian) Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 16:01:14 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes compatibility issue? (2) Message-ID: <947869D80E39884D8207B9F253BB4D7002FC8AF9@tewk-mbpf3.global.avidww.com> Attached is a much shorter log, showing 2 messages filtered. Both bounced back into my Inbox, with spam scores of 100%. Thanks, Ken Goekjian -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer at ihug.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 4:32 AM To: Ken Goekjian Cc: spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] SpamBayes compatibility issue? > When I run Outlook on the new machine, during Send/Receive, the > filter function transfers files to the SPAM & SPAM_SUSPECTS folders > as expected, but then the files are moved BACK into my INBOX, often > with different spam scores than those I observed (briefly) in the > SPAM folders. Files that "bounce back" from my SPAM folder are > marked as read (as instructed for items moved the SPAM folder), > while items that bounce back from my SPAM_SUSPECTS folder are > marked as unread (again, as instructed). Note that this is > observational and anecdotal data - the "bounceback" is quite rapid, > so I haven't been able to capture a listing to verify/document some > of this behavior. [...] > Has anyone else seen this type of behavior? Not that I recall offhand. > Is there a pilot error involved here (I hope)? Probably . > Is there more data that I could collect on this problem? The log file would be particularly useful. The next time this occurs, please send us a copy of the log file, before you manually do the filtering. SpamBayes->SpamBayes Manager->Advanced->Diagnostics- >View Log. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Michelle Massa Director of Marketing and Business Development Stephenson Personal Care North America Phone: 617-571-9907 EST Email: Michelle.Massa at spcna.com http://www.stephensongroupuk.com/Pcare_Home.htm (Click on "North America" link for our line) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051128/4ff52bef/attachment.htm From support at mninc.com Tue Nov 29 07:50:22 2005 From: support at mninc.com (Greg Fishback) Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 22:50:22 -0800 Subject: [Spambayes] Newbie Question.. Message-ID: Brand new user to spambayes. Installed the Pop3 server just fine. Changed Outlook to localhost. It seems to be doing it's job (see header): Received: from teamgear.net ([81.198.145.103]) by 3essentials.com with MailEnable ESMTP; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 01:42:51 -0500 From: "Zbigniew Yamashita" To: "Eirlys Brode" Message-ID: <000001c5f4af$eac8f5e0$2aa6a8c0 at chough> Subject: Re: variegation Medds Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 01:41:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C5F486.01F2EDE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spambayes-Classification: spam X-Spambayes-MailId: 1133246627 But all messages are still coming into the inbox. Obviously there is a setting somewhere to tell it to actually filter these messages but I'm not having any luck. Can someone point me in the correct direction? Greg Fishback -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051128/403701dc/attachment.html From fculittle at fculittle.org Tue Nov 29 18:00:51 2005 From: fculittle at fculittle.org (Church) Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 12:00:51 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Please Help me Message-ID: <0IQQ0055Q79C40D0@vms115.mailsrvcs.net> I have Windows XP I'm not sure anymore what version of SpamBayes I'm running I have no idea where to get my logs. I look and find nothing. I've gone through the trouble shooting guide, and can't find the answer I'm looking for. I'm not a programmer or a computer savvy person. What Happened: I downloaded my email this morning and my Spam Bayes was not working. When I clicked on the delete as spam it told me to drag the files. I thought after a few drags it would kick in. I restarted the computer and that didn't help. I tried a few things in the trouble shooting guide and the tool bar info disappeared. The wizard never showed up again for me. I then uninstalled and reinstalled from the website, but the wizard never showed up. Please help me. This address gets so much spam that without the filter I'm lost. Thank you! Sandy ----------------------- Sandra L. Leyenaar Church Office Administrator First Church Unitarian 19 Foster Street Littleton MA 01460 (978)486-3044 fculittle at fculittle.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051129/7e7271f1/attachment.html From jsp at PKC.com Tue Nov 29 20:15:15 2005 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 14:15:15 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Please Help me Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F901D0454B@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Someone else may have an idea what's going on, but I don't. The log file may help. According to the troubleshooting guide, the simplest way to get it is as follows: 1. Open the SpamBayes Manager dialog (from the SpamBayes toolbar). 2. Click the Advanced tab. 3. Click the Diagnostics button. 4. Click the View log button. Once the log is displayed, you can select its contents (Edit > Select All on the menu, or Ctrl+A), copy it to the clipboard (Edit > Copy on the menu, or Ctrl+C), and then paste it into another message (Edit > Paste or Ctrl+V). ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Church Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 12:01 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Please Help me I have Windows XP I'm not sure anymore what version of SpamBayes I'm running I have no idea where to get my logs. I look and find nothing. I've gone through the trouble shooting guide, and can't find the answer I'm looking for. I'm not a programmer or a computer savvy person. What Happened: I downloaded my email this morning and my Spam Bayes was not working. When I clicked on the delete as spam it told me to drag the files. I thought after a few drags it would kick in. I restarted the computer and that didn't help. I tried a few things in the trouble shooting guide and the tool bar info disappeared. The wizard never showed up again for me. I then uninstalled and reinstalled from the website, but the wizard never showed up. Please help me. This address gets so much spam that without the filter I'm lost. Thank you! Sandy ----------------------- Sandra L. Leyenaar Church Office Administrator First Church Unitarian 19 Foster Street Littleton MA 01460 (978)486-3044 fculittle at fculittle.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051129/5d1ce72e/attachment.html From tricia_nier at dailyaccess.com Tue Nov 29 20:16:19 2005 From: tricia_nier at dailyaccess.com (Nier, Patricia) Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 13:16:19 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Spambayes] Please Verify Your Email Address: REPLY to this email. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1133291779.13766.ICE@dailyaccess.com> ______________________________________________________________________ Message from "Nier, Patricia" ______________________________________________________________________ I recognize from your email address that you are a new correspondent. Thank you. DailyAccess Corporation uses Sender Address Verification (SAV) to ensure that I do not receive unwanted email. Your message is important to me. By pressing REPLY and SEND to this message your original message will be delivered to the top of my inbox. You need only do this once and all future emails will be recognized and delivered directly to me. 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Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 13:16:19 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Spambayes] Please Verify Your Email Address: REPLY to this email. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1133291779.13763.ICE@dailyaccess.com> ______________________________________________________________________ Message from "Carroll, Jennifer B." ______________________________________________________________________ I recognize from your email address that you are a new correspondent. Thank you. DailyAccess Corporation uses Sender Address Verification (SAV) to ensure that I do not receive unwanted email. Your message is important to me. By pressing REPLY and SEND to this message your original message will be delivered to the top of my inbox. You need only do this once and all future emails will be recognized and delivered directly to me. 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Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 13:16:19 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Spambayes] Please Verify Your Email Address: REPLY to this email. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1133291779.13770.ICE@dailyaccess.com> ______________________________________________________________________ Message from "Roussos, Nicholas J." ______________________________________________________________________ I recognize from your email address that you are a new correspondent. Thank you. DailyAccess Corporation uses Sender Address Verification (SAV) to ensure that I do not receive unwanted email. Your message is important to me. By pressing REPLY and SEND to this message your original message will be delivered to the top of my inbox. You need only do this once and all future emails will be recognized and delivered directly to me. 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From: spambayes at python.org Subject: hi, ive a new mail address Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 17:40:19 UTC Size: 716 Url: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051129/d2917c3a/attachment.mht From daphne_castleberry at dailyaccess.com Tue Nov 29 20:16:21 2005 From: daphne_castleberry at dailyaccess.com (Reiser, Daphne) Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 13:16:21 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Spambayes] Please Verify Your Email Address: REPLY to this email. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1133291781.13767.ICE@dailyaccess.com> ______________________________________________________________________ Message from "Reiser, Daphne" ______________________________________________________________________ I recognize from your email address that you are a new correspondent. Thank you. DailyAccess Corporation uses Sender Address Verification (SAV) to ensure that I do not receive unwanted email. Your message is important to me. By pressing REPLY and SEND to this message your original message will be delivered to the top of my inbox. You need only do this once and all future emails will be recognized and delivered directly to me. When replying to this email, please make sure that the following email address appears in the To: field of the reply: daphne_castleberry-confirm-1133291781.13767.ea801c at dailyaccess.com If you are unable to respond to this authentication request within 14 days, or if your reply is not sent to the correct email address (as indicated above), your message may not be delivered. Thank you! Reiser, Daphne _______________________________________________________________________ Sender Address Verification provided by Sendio (http://www.sendio.com) -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: spambayes at python.org Subject: hi, ive a new mail address Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 17:40:19 UTC Size: 716 Url: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051129/746f06d0/attachment.mht From jsp at PKC.com Tue Nov 29 21:00:15 2005 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 15:00:15 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Please Help me Message-ID: <16E2027582CDB74180896CDB4B8CC1F901D0454E@PKCVT01.pkc.com> Well, now I *really* don't have a clue. Anybody...? ________________________________ From: Church [mailto:fculittle at fculittle.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 2:32 PM To: Jesse Pelton Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Please Help me It isn't there. Tried that. I can't figure out where it went. Though it was the suggestion in the trouble shooting guide when have probmlems to delete it, I figured when I reinstalled it would reappear. Man what a mess I've made. Sandy ----------------------- Sandra L. Leyenaar Church Office Administrator First Church Unitarian 19 Foster Street Littleton MA 01460 (978)486-3044 fculittle at fculittle.org ________________________________ From: Jesse Pelton [mailto:jsp at PKC.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 2:29 PM To: Church Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Please Help me Ah. If you select Tools > Customize... from the Outlook menu, then select the Toolbars tab, SpamBayes should be among the listed toolbars. Make sure it's checked. ________________________________ From: Church [mailto:fculittle at fculittle.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 2:24 PM To: Jesse Pelton Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Please Help me I can't get to the spambayes manager. There is nothing on my tool bar and that is the main problem. In following the suggestions from the troubleshooting guide I lost that particular function. When I go to programs the only thing I have under spam bayes is the About Spambayes and the Troubleshooting guide, so I can't get to anything else. I have uninstalled and reinstalled a couple times now and still nothing. Sandy ----------------------- Sandra L. Leyenaar Church Office Administrator First Church Unitarian 19 Foster Street Littleton MA 01460 (978)486-3044 fculittle at fculittle.org ________________________________ From: Jesse Pelton [mailto:jsp at PKC.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 2:15 PM To: Church; spambayes at python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Please Help me Someone else may have an idea what's going on, but I don't. The log file may help. According to the troubleshooting guide, the simplest way to get it is as follows: 1. Open the SpamBayes Manager dialog (from the SpamBayes toolbar). 2. Click the Advanced tab. 3. Click the Diagnostics button. 4. Click the View log button. Once the log is displayed, you can select its contents (Edit > Select All on the menu, or Ctrl+A), copy it to the clipboard (Edit > Copy on the menu, or Ctrl+C), and then paste it into another message (Edit > Paste or Ctrl+V). ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Church Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 12:01 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Please Help me I have Windows XP I'm not sure anymore what version of SpamBayes I'm running I have no idea where to get my logs. I look and find nothing. I've gone through the trouble shooting guide, and can't find the answer I'm looking for. I'm not a programmer or a computer savvy person. What Happened: I downloaded my email this morning and my Spam Bayes was not working. When I clicked on the delete as spam it told me to drag the files. I thought after a few drags it would kick in. I restarted the computer and that didn't help. I tried a few things in the trouble shooting guide and the tool bar info disappeared. The wizard never showed up again for me. I then uninstalled and reinstalled from the website, but the wizard never showed up. Please help me. This address gets so much spam that without the filter I'm lost. Thank you! Sandy ----------------------- Sandra L. Leyenaar Church Office Administrator First Church Unitarian 19 Foster Street Littleton MA 01460 (978)486-3044 fculittle at fculittle.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051129/d4ecae54/attachment.html From bardia at businesscatalyst.com Tue Nov 29 22:08:54 2005 From: bardia at businesscatalyst.com (Bardia Housman) Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 08:08:54 +1100 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Improvement Message-ID: <572D2FC4793D8C4BA6BC37E65EED384E255A16@MKServer01.monkey.monkey.tv> Guys, Firstly well done on spambayes. Been using it for quite a while now and can't live without it. Nothing beats the spam as well as this does. I've come across an issue which I think can only be fixed by you guys. I've recently bought myself a BlackBerry. What happens is, when on the road the blackberry downloads my email to my handheld device. Later when I retrieve them in Outlook (via MS Exchange server) they are already marked "read". Hence when they come to my Outlook inbox spambayes ignores them and does not filter the email. Is there anyway for spambayes to check for new mail coming into my inbox and filter regardless of whether it is read or unread? Many thanks and look forward to your feedback. Cheers, Bardia Housman From mparker at mypsr.com Wed Nov 30 01:44:23 2005 From: mparker at mypsr.com (Mark Parker) Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:44:23 -0800 Subject: [Spambayes] Getting add-in to run Message-ID: Hi, I installed the Spam Bayes on a WinNT sp 6a workstation with Outlook 2000 Pro with all the updates from Microsoft applied. When I go into Start Outlook, and select Options from the Tools menu to display the main Options dialog. Select the tab labeled Other, then click on the Advanced button. Click on the COM Add-Ins button I see Spam Bayes, but no checkmark next to it. So I put a checkmark next to it and click all the OK buttons and restart Outlook. Spam Bayes does not start, and I go back in and look and the box is still not checked. I am logged in as an Administrator. The log file in the temp dir only states: Registered: SpamBayes.OutlookAddin Registration complete. Registration (in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE) complete. Any help is appreciated, Thanks MP From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Nov 30 01:48:02 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 13:48:02 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] Please Help me In-Reply-To: <0IQQ0055Q79C40D0@vms115.mailsrvcs.net> References: <0IQQ0055Q79C40D0@vms115.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: > I have no idea where to get my logs. I look and find nothing. They are in the Windows temp directory. With XP this is most like to be "C:\Document and Settings\{username}\Local Settings\Temp". > I downloaded my email this morning and my Spam Bayes was not > working. When I clicked on the delete as spam it told me to drag > the files. There isn't a SpamBayes message that says anything about dragging files. Either that message came from something else (maybe the source of the problem?) or it must have said something else. Can you remember anything more specific? > I thought after a few drags it would kick in. I restarted the > computer and that didn't help. I tried a few things in the trouble > shooting guide and the tool bar info disappeared. The wizard never > showed up again for me. Check to see if Outlook has disabled the plug-in. Help->About Microsoft Outlook->Disabled Items. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Nov 30 01:50:17 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 13:50:17 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] Newbie Question.. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Brand new user to spambayes. Installed the Pop3 server just fine. > Changed Outlook [Express] to localhost. It seems to be doing it's > job (see header): [...] > X-Spambayes-Classification: spam > X-Spambayes-MailId: 1133246627 > > But all messages are still coming into the inbox. Obviously there > is a setting somewhere to tell it to actually filter these messages > but I'm not having any luck. Actually, that's not true. The POP3 proxy classifies mail, it does not filter it (it's not possible for a proxy to do that). What you need to do is setup Outlook Express to deal with this email, in whatever way you would like (e.g. move it to a separate folder). The second half of FAQ 4.21 explains how to do this, if you need help: =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Nov 30 01:57:20 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 13:57:20 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Improvement In-Reply-To: <572D2FC4793D8C4BA6BC37E65EED384E255A16@MKServer01.monkey.monkey.tv> References: <572D2FC4793D8C4BA6BC37E65EED384E255A16@MKServer01.monkey.monkey.tv> Message-ID: > I've come across an issue which I think can only be fixed by you > guys. I've > recently bought myself a BlackBerry. What happens is, when on the road > the blackberry downloads my email to my handheld device. Later when I > retrieve them in Outlook (via MS Exchange server) they are already > marked "read". Hence when they come to my Outlook inbox spambayes > ignores them and does not filter the email. Is there anyway for > spambayes to check for new mail coming into my inbox and filter > regardless of whether it is read or unread? Not at the moment. You could select them and mark then as unread, and the next time SpamBayes filters it will catch them - how inconvenient that would be, I'm not sure. You can also manually filter the folder via the SpamBayes button on the toolbar. I'm not 100%, but I think that if background filtering is turned off, then SpamBayes immediately filters *any* mail that arrives in the filter folders, regardless of read status. If that is the case, then you could turn it off (Advanced tab of the SpamBayes Manager) and that would solve the problem. It would mean that it would no longer be clear whether SpamBayes or local Outlook rules ran first, but if your rules are running on the Exchange Server (ones that don't have the "local machine" tag next to them) then that wouldn't be a problem. Adding a 'filter already read mail' option is possible; it would be very annoying for people who keep a lot of mail in the folders they filter (because they would be continually re-filtered), but if it defaulted to 'off', then I suppose it wouldn't hurt. If you'd really like this, please add a feature request (RFE) to sourceforge () - requests via the list tend to get lost. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Nov 30 06:45:07 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 18:45:07 +1300 Subject: [Spambayes] 'Recover From Spam' Option in Menu? In-Reply-To: <001501c5f461$bae2fbd0$6501a8c0@newhp> References: <001501c5f461$bae2fbd0$6501a8c0@newhp> Message-ID: <7D6E82BE-7945-42AA-B47B-35E5814AE6BB@ihug.co.nz> > I have recently reinstalled Spambayes onto my new laptop computer, > XP Home. > The filter is working fine, but in the menu for Spambayes, I do not > see the option, Recover From Spam, as it was in the version I used > on my other laptop (the previous version). Is that no longer an > option with this latest version, or do I add it someplace in the > Manager? If you installed SpamBayes 1.1a1, then "Recover from spam" has been renamed "Not spam". This button should be on the SpamBayes toolbar, rather than in the menu that drops down if you click the SpamBayes button - is that what you meant? The "Recover from spam"/"Not spam" button is only displayed when you are in the unsure or spam folders - are you definitely in one of those when it is missing? =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Wed Nov 30 13:31:50 2005 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 07:31:50 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Newbie Question.. Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F500524391C@SPIKE.city> Since you're using Outlook, the right track is to start over and install the Outlook plugin instead of the POP3 proxy. The proxy does a decent job if you're using an arbitrary POP3 client, but the Outlook plugin is much easier to set up and use. Bob -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces+rcoe=cambridgema.gov at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces+rcoe=cambridgema.gov at python.org] On Behalf Of Greg Fishback Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 1:50 AM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Newbie Question.. Brand new user to spambayes. Installed the Pop3 server just fine. Changed Outlook to localhost. It seems to be doing it's job (see header): Received: from teamgear.net ([81.198.145.103]) by 3essentials.com with MailEnable ESMTP; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 01:42:51 -0500 From: "Zbigniew Yamashita" To: "Eirlys Brode" Message-ID: <000001c5f4af$eac8f5e0$2aa6a8c0 at chough> Subject: Re: variegation Medds Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 01:41:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C5F486.01F2EDE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spambayes-Classification: spam X-Spambayes-MailId: 1133246627 But all messages are still coming into the inbox. Obviously there is a setting somewhere to tell it to actually filter these messages but I'm not having any luck. Can someone point me in the correct direction? Greg Fishback -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051130/27e822ee/attachment.html From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Wed Nov 30 13:31:50 2005 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 07:31:50 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Please Help me Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F500524391D@SPIKE.city> Random "drags" can wreak a lot of havoc in Outlook. Maybe she's managed to push the Spambayes toolbar out of the visible part of the window. I guess that's consistent with the fact that reinstalling doesn't help. Presumably the second installation would simply overwrite the previous toolbar in place. If the old one wasn't visible, the new one wouldn't be either. Don't laugh; I've seen stranger things in my 45 years in this game! Bob -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Jesse Pelton Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 3:00 PM To: Church; spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Please Help me Well, now I *really* don't have a clue. Anybody...? _____ From: Church [mailto:fculittle at fculittle.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 2:32 PM To: Jesse Pelton Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Please Help me It isn't there. Tried that. I can't figure out where it went. Though it was the suggestion in the trouble shooting guide when have probmlems to delete it, I figured when I reinstalled it would reappear. Man what a mess I've made. Sandy ----------------------- Sandra L. Leyenaar Church Office Administrator First Church Unitarian 19 Foster Street Littleton MA 01460 (978)486-3044 fculittle at fculittle.org _____ From: Jesse Pelton [mailto:jsp at PKC.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 2:29 PM To: Church Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Please Help me Ah. If you select Tools > Customize... from the Outlook menu, then select the Toolbars tab, SpamBayes should be among the listed toolbars. Make sure it's checked. _____ From: Church [mailto:fculittle at fculittle.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 2:24 PM To: Jesse Pelton Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Please Help me I can't get to the spambayes manager. There is nothing on my tool bar and that is the main problem. In following the suggestions from the troubleshooting guide I lost that particular function. When I go to programs the only thing I have under spam bayes is the About Spambayes and the Troubleshooting guide, so I can't get to anything else. I have uninstalled and reinstalled a couple times now and still nothing. Sandy ----------------------- Sandra L. Leyenaar Church Office Administrator First Church Unitarian 19 Foster Street Littleton MA 01460 (978)486-3044 fculittle at fculittle.org _____ From: Jesse Pelton [mailto:jsp at PKC.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 2:15 PM To: Church; spambayes at python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Please Help me Someone else may have an idea what's going on, but I don't. The log file may help. According to the troubleshooting guide, the simplest way to get it is as follows: 1. Open the SpamBayes Manager dialog (from the SpamBayes toolbar). 2. Click the Advanced tab. 3. Click the Diagnostics button. 4. Click the View log button. Once the log is displayed, you can select its contents (Edit > Select All on the menu, or Ctrl+A), copy it to the clipboard (Edit > Copy on the menu, or Ctrl+C), and then paste it into another message (Edit > Paste or Ctrl+V). _____ From: spambayes-bounces at python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Church Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 12:01 PM To: spambayes at python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Please Help me I have Windows XP I'm not sure anymore what version of SpamBayes I'm running I have no idea where to get my logs. I look and find nothing. I've gone through the trouble shooting guide, and can't find the answer I'm looking for. I'm not a programmer or a computer savvy person. What Happened: I downloaded my email this morning and my Spam Bayes was not working. When I clicked on the delete as spam it told me to drag the files. I thought after a few drags it would kick in. I restarted the computer and that didn't help. I tried a few things in the trouble shooting guide and the tool bar info disappeared. The wizard never showed up again for me. I then uninstalled and reinstalled from the website, but the wizard never showed up. Please help me. This address gets so much spam that without the filter I'm lost. Thank you! Sandy ----------------------- Sandra L. Leyenaar Church Office Administrator First Church Unitarian 19 Foster Street Littleton MA 01460 (978)486-3044 fculittle at fculittle.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051130/ae5bd2a5/attachment.htm From KBuck at dynalab-inc.com Wed Nov 30 16:22:48 2005 From: KBuck at dynalab-inc.com (Buck, Ken) Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 10:22:48 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Weird Behavior Message-ID: <16FC6A4FEC099947BCE7991D8E34D52D096A@mail.dynalab-inc.com> Good Morning.... I'm at a complete loss here about the behavior of SpamBayes... I've followed all the troubleshooting tips listed for resetting the toolbar and such. What happens is SpamBayes will work for a bit, then suddenly stop. But... not fully disable. Eg. When Outlook 2k is first opened, messages are filtered as normal. Jump in the Suspicious Folder and I can select multiple messages to mark either good or bad and that works, but it's a 1 time deal. After that, I can no longer move multiple messages, just one at a time. I'm running the latest version. OS is Win2k w/ Outlook2k. All MS updates are applied. Any information would be greatly appreciated! Thanks! Ken -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051130/a740bd6c/attachment.html From michelle.massa at spcna.com Wed Nov 30 17:53:17 2005 From: michelle.massa at spcna.com (Michelle Massa) Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 11:53:17 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] 'Recover From Spam' Option in Menu? In-Reply-To: <7D6E82BE-7945-42AA-B47B-35E5814AE6BB@ihug.co.nz> Message-ID: <02b301c5f5ce$918a3870$0b00000a@newhp> Thank you for the reply. The problem is that when I am in the Spam folder, the button, This is not spam, is grayed out and not usable. It's there, but it won't let me use it. I have gone through the Help sections in Spambayes, but have not found a fix for this. It could be simple, but I am missing it...Thanks again!! Michelle Massa Director of Marketing and Business Development Stephenson Personal Care North America Phone: 617-571-9907 EST Email: Michelle.Massa at spcna.com http://www.stephensongroupuk.com/Pcare_Home.htm (Click on "North America" link for our line) -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer at ihug.co.nz] Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 12:45 AM To: michelle.massa at spcna.com Cc: spambayes at python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] 'Recover From Spam' Option in Menu? > I have recently reinstalled Spambayes onto my new laptop computer, > XP Home. > The filter is working fine, but in the menu for Spambayes, I do not > see the option, Recover From Spam, as it was in the version I used > on my other laptop (the previous version). Is that no longer an > option with this latest version, or do I add it someplace in the > Manager? If you installed SpamBayes 1.1a1, then "Recover from spam" has been renamed "Not spam". This button should be on the SpamBayes toolbar, rather than in the menu that drops down if you click the SpamBayes button - is that what you meant? The "Recover from spam"/"Not spam" button is only displayed when you are in the unsure or spam folders - are you definitely in one of those when it is missing? =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Wed Nov 30 22:45:01 2005 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 16:45:01 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] Newbie Question.. Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5005243947@SPIKE.city> Tony, either I'm reading this situation wrong or you are. You appear to have changed Mr Fishback's inquiry to indicate that he's using Outlook Express rather than Outlook (and then answered the inquiry accordingly). But the actual headers on his message seem to indicate that he's using the "real" Outlook, which is why I suggested that he switch to the Outlook plugin. The reference to Outlook Express in his message was in a quoted set of headers of a (spam) message from "Zbigniew Yamashita". It was the spam message that was sent using Outlook Express. Or am I missing something? Bob > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces at python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Tony Meyer > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 7:50 PM > To: Greg Fishback > Cc: spambayes at python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Newbie Question.. > > > > Brand new user to spambayes. Installed the Pop3 server just fine. > > Changed Outlook [Express] to localhost. It seems to be doing it's > > job (see header): > [...] > > X-Spambayes-Classification: spam > > X-Spambayes-MailId: 1133246627 > > > > But all messages are still coming into the inbox. Obviously there > > is a setting somewhere to tell it to actually filter these messages > > but I'm not having any luck. > > Actually, that's not true. The POP3 proxy classifies mail, it does > not filter it (it's not possible for a proxy to do that). What you > need to do is setup Outlook Express to deal with this email, in > whatever way you would like (e.g. move it to a separate folder). > > The second half of FAQ 4.21 explains how to do this, if you need help: > > express> > > =Tony.Meyer From Al at crab.wa.gov Wed Nov 30 22:47:19 2005 From: Al at crab.wa.gov (Al King) Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 13:47:19 -0800 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Failure Message-ID: <64D9A2B1D32BFD4D86A9656EA7201D2F2A6695@crab-hpserver3.crabint.wa.gov> Apologies in advance for my ignorance. I've used SpamBayes successfully for quite some time, but recently it has simply quit working. I can't even pull up the menu although the icons still show on Outlook. I have tried all the suggestions in the documentation, even removed the program entirely and reinstalled, rebooted, etc, with no luck. Checked SourceForge for similar problems again without success. Suggestions on what to look for? Thanks. Al King -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20051130/06a3c181/attachment.html