From rmalayter at bai.org Tue Mar 1 00:43:54 2005 From: rmalayter at bai.org (Ryan Malayter) Date: Tue Mar 1 00:43:57 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Local admin rights Message-ID: <792DE28E91F6EA42B4663AE761C41C2A03BE810A@cliff.bai.org> [Tony Meyer] [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] > As a user, I should have the ability to decide what software > I use, assuming > that it use of it doesn't go against any of the my > organisation's policies, > and that I do not expect any support from the organisation for it. This is absolutely, positively NOT the case. At most organizations, the *organization* owns the computer, and all data on it. At least in the US, Canada and across most of Europe. Legal liability for the organization's computer (and the licenses for software that goes on it) rests with the organization. This is why savvy organizations prohibit users from installing any software: your average user is not empowered (according to the organization's rules) to accept the license agreement on behalf of the organization. This holds true for open source software licenses as well. So, the organization owns the computer, and the *organization* decides what software the user can use. For example, I have the authority to negotiate contracts on behalf of my employer, but 95% of the people who work here do not. They do not have the training nor expertise to enter into a contractual arrangement on behalf of the company. A commercial software license IS a contract, so 95% of people here are not authorized to install software - regardless of the technical issues. The fact that Spambayes is open source changes this not one bit, as the user is generally not empowered to accept the PSF License (in LICENSE.TXT) on behalf of the organization. > I certainly should not need to go to my system manager and wait > weeks for the > extremely unlikely event of the system manager testing the > software and > deciding to support it and install it for me. Yes, you *should* have to wait. Total anarchy - unlicensed commercial software, spyware, viruses, worms, and trashed systems - are the result when the general user population is allowed to install their own software. Regards, Ryan From bborrevik at icehouse.net Tue Mar 1 01:43:48 2005 From: bborrevik at icehouse.net (Berge A. Borrevik, Jr.) Date: Tue Mar 1 01:43:56 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Express Message-ID: <000601c51df7$bb42ec20$e2dcffd8@borrevik> I downloaded and installed the newest version of SpamBayes on my new computer (Win XP Pro) and I'm using it in Outlook. However, I also use Outlook Express to access another e-mail account. May I use SpamBayes in OLE also? And how? Thanks for a great product! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050228/e45f9176/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 1 02:08:55 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 1 02:09:01 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Auto delete of Spam after X number of days or mark somehow In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [...] > once I reviewed the Spam folder, I did > not have to delete it or show it as read to have it identify > to me which spam email I ended up reviewing the last time. > This then allowed me to keep the old ones for awhile, because > sometimes I miss one I want to remove from Spam, so I can come > back later to check the old ones. > > what I end up having to do with this is delete the ones I just > looked at because I can not remember where I left off the last > time and the number just grows of unread emails in the Spam > folder. Is there a way to do this that I can not find? Your message looks like you are using Outlook, and therefore I assume the Outlook plug-in. If that is not the case, please let us know, as this reply will be inappropriate. If you want to automatically remove mail in a folder after a given number of days, you can use the Outlook AutoArchive facility to do this (you can choose to permanently remove mail rather than archive it in another .pst). However, could you not simply mark all messages in the folder as read after you examine it? (Control-A, Control-Q). Then it's just any messages that are unread that you haven't examined. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From scott at thewhalens.com Tue Mar 1 03:33:57 2005 From: scott at thewhalens.com (Scott Whalen) Date: Tue Mar 1 03:34:03 2005 Subject: FW: [Spambayes] Auto delete of Spam after X number of days or mark somehow Message-ID: <20050301023400.QOEB1296.lakecmmtao04.coxmail.com@D8MWS361> Thank you for the response but maybe I need to try an explain this differently. I get a lot of junk mail for whatever reason. I can open Outlook in the morning, close it and come back in 4 or 5 hours and find a ton of spam once again. Lets say I get 80 spam emails in the morning, I review them then close down Outlook and return later in the day to another 80 spam emails. What I get with the product I was using is, it marked the previous emails in a way that even though they were dumped into the same folder, I did not have to remember where I end reviewing the new emails and start looking at the old ones still in the folder. I do not want to mark them read since it is my understanding that, that is one way to let the spammers know you looked at it and they continue to send you more spam. Is that understanding correct? ___________________________________________ The finest compliment I can ever receive is a referral from my friends or clients... Sincerely, Scott Whalen, Senior Loan Officer Great Southwest Mortgage 1811 S. Alma School Road, #260 Mesa, AZ 85210 Cell 602.570.1629 Off 480.456.7883 fax 480.756.9963 -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 6:09 PM To: 'Scott Whalen'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Auto delete of Spam after X number of days or mark somehow [...] > once I reviewed the Spam folder, I did > not have to delete it or show it as read to have it identify > to me which spam email I ended up reviewing the last time. > This then allowed me to keep the old ones for awhile, because > sometimes I miss one I want to remove from Spam, so I can come > back later to check the old ones. > > what I end up having to do with this is delete the ones I just > looked at because I can not remember where I left off the last > time and the number just grows of unread emails in the Spam > folder. Is there a way to do this that I can not find? Your message looks like you are using Outlook, and therefore I assume the Outlook plug-in. If that is not the case, please let us know, as this reply will be inappropriate. If you want to automatically remove mail in a folder after a given number of days, you can use the Outlook AutoArchive facility to do this (you can choose to permanently remove mail rather than archive it in another .pst). However, could you not simply mark all messages in the folder as read after you examine it? (Control-A, Control-Q). Then it's just any messages that are unread that you haven't examined. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.1 - Release Date: 2/27/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.1 - Release Date: 2/27/2005 From szinn at rogers.com Tue Mar 1 04:50:46 2005 From: szinn at rogers.com (Scotte Zinn) Date: Tue Mar 1 04:50:43 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Sudden problem with zlib and SpamBayes 1.0 Message-ID: <4223E696.20900@rogers.com> I've been running SpamBayes 1.0 with Python 2.3 quite successfully for a while. After a machine reboot today though, the SpamBayes service refuses to start up. In the event log, I found the error message Python could not import the service's module File "C:\usr\local\SPAMBA~1.0\windows\pop3proxy_service.py", line 85, in ? import sb_server File "C:\usr\local\SPAMBA~1.0\scripts\sb_server.py", line 107, in ? from spambayes.FileCorpus import FileCorpus, ExpiryFileCorpus File "C:\usr\local\SPAMBA~1.0\spambayes\FileCorpus.py", line 90, in ? import sys, os, gzip, fnmatch, getopt, time, stat File "C:\usr\local\Python23\lib\gzip.py", line 9, in ? import zlib exceptions.ImportError: dynamic module does not define init function If I run the pop3proxy_service in debug mode, then everything goes just fine. Trying to start the service, and it fails. I've tried uninstalling Python and the win32 extensions and reinstalling them with no luck Anyone have any ideas? Thanks -- Scotte From TKLank at GBRonline.com Tue Mar 1 06:03:51 2005 From: TKLank at GBRonline.com (Tim Lank family) Date: Tue Mar 1 06:03:53 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Wonderful tool! Message-ID: <001201c51e1c$105d8890$0f4e0945@LankFamily> Folks- I've been using Spambayes for several weeks now and am extremely pleased and amazed with the performance. I didn't train on a very large pile of spam, but it learns surprisingly fast. I tweaked the filter to 10 & 60, but feel I will soon be able to toss my extensive MSOutlook subject line key word spam filter, since Spambayes is learning from these as well. One comment of which you are probably well aware- The limited spam that makes it thru all seems to use the same countermeasure: This spam contains a high percentage of unrelated text that appears to either be from a novel/book or words from a dictionary. In some cases, this text is mildly concealed thru small and/or light font or else placing well beneath the main spam message. Any advice on counter-countermeasures? Will the algorithm learn formatting anomalies such as this and I should just be patient? Thanks! Tim Lank -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050228/b18c79d7/attachment.htm From sole at soleassociates.com Tue Mar 1 12:32:52 2005 From: sole at soleassociates.com (Kenneth Sole) Date: Tue Mar 1 12:33:14 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Auto delete of Spam after X number of days or marksomehow In-Reply-To: <20050301023400.QOEB1296.lakecmmtao04.coxmail.com@D8MWS361> Message-ID: <000001c51e52$68e53310$6801a8c0@Kitchen> Howdy, No expert I, but... Marking messages "read" (or marking them in any other way) sends nothing to anyone else. I suspect that you are confusing that with responding to the sender to let them know that you wish to be "removed" from their list. That does, in fact, notify them that yours is a legitimate address. All the best, -- Kenneth Sole & Associates, Inc. Box 292 Durham, New Hampshire 03824 Voice: 603-659-3169 Fax: 603-659-2248 Email: sole@soleAssociates.com URL: http://www.soleAssociates.com PGP: http://wwwkeys.ch.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE17941C6 -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Scott Whalen Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 9:34 PM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: FW: [Spambayes] Auto delete of Spam after X number of days or marksomehow Thank you for the response but maybe I need to try an explain this differently. I get a lot of junk mail for whatever reason. I can open Outlook in the morning, close it and come back in 4 or 5 hours and find a ton of spam once again. Lets say I get 80 spam emails in the morning, I review them then close down Outlook and return later in the day to another 80 spam emails. What I get with the product I was using is, it marked the previous emails in a way that even though they were dumped into the same folder, I did not have to remember where I end reviewing the new emails and start looking at the old ones still in the folder. I do not want to mark them read since it is my understanding that, that is one way to let the spammers know you looked at it and they continue to send you more spam. Is that understanding correct? ___________________________________________ The finest compliment I can ever receive is a referral from my friends or clients... Sincerely, Scott Whalen, Senior Loan Officer Great Southwest Mortgage 1811 S. Alma School Road, #260 Mesa, AZ 85210 Cell 602.570.1629 Off 480.456.7883 fax 480.756.9963 -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 6:09 PM To: 'Scott Whalen'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Auto delete of Spam after X number of days or mark somehow [...] > once I reviewed the Spam folder, I did > not have to delete it or show it as read to have it identify > to me which spam email I ended up reviewing the last time. > This then allowed me to keep the old ones for awhile, because > sometimes I miss one I want to remove from Spam, so I can come > back later to check the old ones. > > what I end up having to do with this is delete the ones I just > looked at because I can not remember where I left off the last > time and the number just grows of unread emails in the Spam > folder. Is there a way to do this that I can not find? Your message looks like you are using Outlook, and therefore I assume the Outlook plug-in. If that is not the case, please let us know, as this reply will be inappropriate. If you want to automatically remove mail in a folder after a given number of days, you can use the Outlook AutoArchive facility to do this (you can choose to permanently remove mail rather than archive it in another .pst). However, could you not simply mark all messages in the folder as read after you examine it? (Control-A, Control-Q). Then it's just any messages that are unread that you haven't examined. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.1 - Release Date: 2/27/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.1 - Release Date: 2/27/2005 _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From Amir_Katz at bmc.com Tue Mar 1 15:06:16 2005 From: Amir_Katz at bmc.com (Katz, Amir) Date: Tue Mar 1 15:06:28 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Auto delete of Spam after X number of days or mar ksomehow Message-ID: Scott. Here's the "best practice" I developed as I faced the same issue as you did: 1. Configured SB to send the spam to a designated folder (e.g. the predefined "Junk e-mail" in case of Outlook 2003). Standard behavior so far. 2. I created another folder called "all my spam" which in my case lives inside another PST file (but does not have to be, of course). This conserves the size of my main PST. 3. Every hour or so I scan the detected spam: 3.1 False positives are moved back to inbox (using the button "recover from spam") 3.2 Move real spam to the "all my spam" folder 4. Sleep(3600); goto 3; HTH, Amir -----Original Message----- From: Kenneth Sole [mailto:sole@soleassociates.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 13:33 To: 'Scott Whalen'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Auto delete of Spam after X number of days or marksomehow Howdy, No expert I, but... Marking messages "read" (or marking them in any other way) sends nothing to anyone else. I suspect that you are confusing that with responding to the sender to let them know that you wish to be "removed" from their list. That does, in fact, notify them that yours is a legitimate address. All the best, -- Kenneth Sole & Associates, Inc. Box 292 Durham, New Hampshire 03824 Voice: 603-659-3169 Fax: 603-659-2248 Email: sole@soleAssociates.com URL: http://www.soleAssociates.com PGP: http://wwwkeys.ch.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE17941C6 -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Scott Whalen Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 9:34 PM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: FW: [Spambayes] Auto delete of Spam after X number of days or marksomehow Thank you for the response but maybe I need to try an explain this differently. I get a lot of junk mail for whatever reason. I can open Outlook in the morning, close it and come back in 4 or 5 hours and find a ton of spam once again. Lets say I get 80 spam emails in the morning, I review them then close down Outlook and return later in the day to another 80 spam emails. What I get with the product I was using is, it marked the previous emails in a way that even though they were dumped into the same folder, I did not have to remember where I end reviewing the new emails and start looking at the old ones still in the folder. I do not want to mark them read since it is my understanding that, that is one way to let the spammers know you looked at it and they continue to send you more spam. Is that understanding correct? ___________________________________________ The finest compliment I can ever receive is a referral from my friends or clients... Sincerely, Scott Whalen, Senior Loan Officer Great Southwest Mortgage 1811 S. Alma School Road, #260 Mesa, AZ 85210 Cell 602.570.1629 Off 480.456.7883 fax 480.756.9963 -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 6:09 PM To: 'Scott Whalen'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Auto delete of Spam after X number of days or mark somehow [...] > once I reviewed the Spam folder, I did > not have to delete it or show it as read to have it identify > to me which spam email I ended up reviewing the last time. > This then allowed me to keep the old ones for awhile, because > sometimes I miss one I want to remove from Spam, so I can come > back later to check the old ones. > > what I end up having to do with this is delete the ones I just > looked at because I can not remember where I left off the last > time and the number just grows of unread emails in the Spam > folder. Is there a way to do this that I can not find? Your message looks like you are using Outlook, and therefore I assume the Outlook plug-in. If that is not the case, please let us know, as this reply will be inappropriate. If you want to automatically remove mail in a folder after a given number of days, you can use the Outlook AutoArchive facility to do this (you can choose to permanently remove mail rather than archive it in another .pst). However, could you not simply mark all messages in the folder as read after you examine it? (Control-A, Control-Q). Then it's just any messages that are unread that you haven't examined. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.1 - Release Date: 2/27/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.1 - Release Date: 2/27/2005 _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From Amir_Katz at bmc.com Tue Mar 1 15:12:54 2005 From: Amir_Katz at bmc.com (Katz, Amir) Date: Tue Mar 1 15:13:04 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Express Message-ID: I'm not 100% sure, but AFAIK you'll have to install SB twice - once the plug-in for Outlook and once the proxy for Outlook Express (OE). One thing is sure - there's no OLE integration for OE. While we're on this issue, I moved my family away from OE to Thunderbird and they like it. TB has much better filtering rules than OE. But I digress (:-) Amir _____ From: Berge A. Borrevik, Jr. [mailto:bborrevik@icehouse.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 02:44 To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Express I downloaded and installed the newest version of SpamBayes on my new computer (Win XP Pro) and I'm using it in Outlook. However, I also use Outlook Express to access another e-mail account. May I use SpamBayes in OLE also? And how? Thanks for a great product! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050301/5ee22b01/attachment.html From jhill at starhop.com Tue Mar 1 16:21:03 2005 From: jhill at starhop.com (Jeffrey J. Hill) Date: Tue Mar 1 16:21:08 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Please insert disk labeled "Visual Basic for Applications". Message-ID: <004201c51e72$498560b0$300e1cac@cosmos.local> Hello, I have one PC that gives this error every time I try to access Spambayes Manager. Spambayes will not load correctly not having the "training" dialog or the Suspect and Junk mail folder options. I tried installing VBA6.msi but this didn't work. PC is Windows XP SP2, on W2K network, MS Office XP. wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww Jeffrey J. Hill Planetarium Engineer Christa McAuliffe Planetarium 2 Institute Drive Concord, NH 03301 Voice: 603.271.7831 Facsimile: 603.271.7832 e-mail: jhill@starhop.com WWW.Starhop.com wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww Reach for the Stars! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050301/dab85b78/attachment.htm From ss at boerse.de Tue Mar 1 17:22:35 2005 From: ss at boerse.de (Stefan Schlichtinger) Date: Tue Mar 1 17:23:20 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Multiple Instances Message-ID: <200503011722350922.01CCAD54@mail.boerse.de> Hi there, is it possible to run SpamBayes on one machine with multiple instances? I would need this because i have two different mail servers and in SpamBayes i can only specify one server to be connected to. So i tried to install SpamBayes in two different folders with two different listen-ports on the hard disk. I can start two instances of it, but when i try to connect with my mail client it throws an error. Is there a solution available? Looking forward to your answer, Steve From steveng at pop.jaring.my Tue Mar 1 18:03:07 2005 From: steveng at pop.jaring.my (Stephen Ng) Date: Tue Mar 1 18:04:37 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] 500 Server error Message-ID: <4224A04B.20600@pop.jaring.my> Hi! I received the following error after Reviewing and clicking on Train - Training... Saving... Done. Trained on 10 messages. 500 Server error Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/spambayes/Dibbler.py", line 461, in found_terminator getattr(plugin, name)(**params) File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/spambayes/ProxyUI.py", line 542, in onReview messageInfo = self._makeMessageInfo(message) File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/spambayes/ProxyUI.py", line 710, in _makeMessageInfo messageInfo.bodySummary = self._trimHeader(text, 200) File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/spambayes/UserInterface.py", line 216, in _trimHeader sections = email.Header.decode_header(field) File "/usr/lib/python2.2/email/Header.py", line 67, in decode_header if not ecre.search(header): RuntimeError: maximum recursion limit exceeded I received the same error (except for the top line) before just trying to Review Messages. I was not able to proceed to the screen with untrained messages in order to classify the messages. I would appreciate any help. Stephen Ng -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050302/27389293/attachment.html From cmoon at moonadrion.com Tue Mar 1 19:34:42 2005 From: cmoon at moonadrion.com (Craig Moon) Date: Tue Mar 1 19:43:18 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] help! Message-ID: <056801c51e8d$55924b00$4002a8c0@cinci.rr.com> I love your program but recently I had some computer problems and upon fixing all I find I had to reinstall spambayes. After doing that I find that all Bad Spam is now not being sent to my deleted mail folder. When going into spambayes manager, configuration wizard, then checked "I have already sorted good messages", examples of good messages can be found in "inbox" and examples of spam or unwanted messages can be found in......at that point I hit the browse button in my attempt to find "deleted mail folder", but to my surprise the Deleted Items folder that I have on my outlook folder list DOES NOT show up when a Browse! Can you help me as everything spam/unwanted is going to the "suspected spam" folder! Thanks Craig Moon Best regards, Moon & Adrion Insurance Agcy., Inc. Craig T. Moon, CPIA,CIC President 180 N. Breiel Boulevard Middletown, Ohio 45042 (888)405-1000 telephone (513) 422-7873 facsimile -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050301/8808f9eb/attachment.html From scott at thewhalens.com Tue Mar 1 22:50:39 2005 From: scott at thewhalens.com (Scott Whalen) Date: Tue Mar 1 22:50:46 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Auto delete of Spam after X number of days or marksomehow In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050301215044.GQCB11720.lakecmmtao04.coxmail.com@D8MWS361> Thank you to Amir and Kenneth. Both of you gave me some great input on this. ___________________________________________ The finest compliment I can ever receive is a referral from my friends or clients... Sincerely, Scott Whalen, Senior Loan Officer Great Southwest Mortgage 1811 S. Alma School Road, #260 Mesa, AZ 85210 Cell 602.570.1629 Off 480.456.7883 fax 480.756.9963 -----Original Message----- From: Katz, Amir [mailto:Amir_Katz@bmc.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 7:06 AM To: 'Scott Whalen' Cc: spambayes@python.org; Kenneth Sole Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Auto delete of Spam after X number of days or marksomehow Scott. Here's the "best practice" I developed as I faced the same issue as you did: 1. Configured SB to send the spam to a designated folder (e.g. the predefined "Junk e-mail" in case of Outlook 2003). Standard behavior so far. 2. I created another folder called "all my spam" which in my case lives inside another PST file (but does not have to be, of course). This conserves the size of my main PST. 3. Every hour or so I scan the detected spam: 3.1 False positives are moved back to inbox (using the button "recover from spam") 3.2 Move real spam to the "all my spam" folder 4. Sleep(3600); goto 3; HTH, Amir -----Original Message----- From: Kenneth Sole [mailto:sole@soleassociates.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 13:33 To: 'Scott Whalen'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Auto delete of Spam after X number of days or marksomehow Howdy, No expert I, but... Marking messages "read" (or marking them in any other way) sends nothing to anyone else. I suspect that you are confusing that with responding to the sender to let them know that you wish to be "removed" from their list. That does, in fact, notify them that yours is a legitimate address. All the best, -- Kenneth Sole & Associates, Inc. Box 292 Durham, New Hampshire 03824 Voice: 603-659-3169 Fax: 603-659-2248 Email: sole@soleAssociates.com URL: http://www.soleAssociates.com PGP: http://wwwkeys.ch.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE17941C6 -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Scott Whalen Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 9:34 PM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: FW: [Spambayes] Auto delete of Spam after X number of days or marksomehow Thank you for the response but maybe I need to try an explain this differently. I get a lot of junk mail for whatever reason. I can open Outlook in the morning, close it and come back in 4 or 5 hours and find a ton of spam once again. Lets say I get 80 spam emails in the morning, I review them then close down Outlook and return later in the day to another 80 spam emails. What I get with the product I was using is, it marked the previous emails in a way that even though they were dumped into the same folder, I did not have to remember where I end reviewing the new emails and start looking at the old ones still in the folder. I do not want to mark them read since it is my understanding that, that is one way to let the spammers know you looked at it and they continue to send you more spam. Is that understanding correct? ___________________________________________ The finest compliment I can ever receive is a referral from my friends or clients... Sincerely, Scott Whalen, Senior Loan Officer Great Southwest Mortgage 1811 S. Alma School Road, #260 Mesa, AZ 85210 Cell 602.570.1629 Off 480.456.7883 fax 480.756.9963 -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 6:09 PM To: 'Scott Whalen'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Auto delete of Spam after X number of days or mark somehow [...] > once I reviewed the Spam folder, I did > not have to delete it or show it as read to have it identify > to me which spam email I ended up reviewing the last time. > This then allowed me to keep the old ones for awhile, because > sometimes I miss one I want to remove from Spam, so I can come > back later to check the old ones. > > what I end up having to do with this is delete the ones I just > looked at because I can not remember where I left off the last > time and the number just grows of unread emails in the Spam > folder. Is there a way to do this that I can not find? Your message looks like you are using Outlook, and therefore I assume the Outlook plug-in. If that is not the case, please let us know, as this reply will be inappropriate. If you want to automatically remove mail in a folder after a given number of days, you can use the Outlook AutoArchive facility to do this (you can choose to permanently remove mail rather than archive it in another .pst). However, could you not simply mark all messages in the folder as read after you examine it? (Control-A, Control-Q). Then it's just any messages that are unread that you haven't examined. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.1 - Release Date: 2/27/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.1 - Release Date: 2/27/2005 _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.7 - Release Date: 3/1/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.7 - Release Date: 3/1/2005 From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Mar 2 01:43:46 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Mar 2 01:44:28 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Multiple Instances In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > is it possible to run SpamBayes on one machine with multiple > instances? I would need this because i have two different > mail servers and in SpamBayes i can only specify one server > to be connected to. Which SpamBayes application is this? If you are using sb_imapfilter, then, yes, you can only specify one server (although this is fixed in CVS). However, you can simply run multiple instances of imapfilter and that will work. sb_server (the POP3 proxy) and the Outlook plug-in will work with however many servers you have. It sounds like you are using sb_server. If that is the case, then you simply enter in the servers in a comma separated list (the help text to the right of the option in the web interface explain this). Make sure that you have the same number of local ports in the next option as you have servers (again, comma separated), and all should work fine. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Mar 2 01:47:32 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Mar 2 01:47:39 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] help! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > After doing that I find that all Bad Spam is now > not being sent to my deleted mail folder. Only very old versions of SpamBayes let you set the Deleted Items folder as the spam folder. This is not a good idea. FAQ 3.11 explains why: > When going into spambayes manager, configuration wizard, > then checked "I have already sorted good messages", examples > of good messages can be found in "inbox" and examples of spam > or unwanted messages can be found in......at that point I hit > the browse button in my attempt to find "deleted mail folder", > but to my surprise the Deleted Items folder that I have on my > outlook folder list DOES NOT show up when a Browse! Put the spam that you want to train on in a folder that is not in the Deleted Items folder, and everything should work as you expect. > Can you help me as everything spam/unwanted is going to the > "suspected spam" folder! If you go into the Manager (Filtering tab) and select a folder that is not the Deleted Items folder, or any folder in the Deleted Items folder as the spam folder, then everything should work again. (You can run the Wizard again if you wish, but it shouldn't be necessary). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Mar 2 02:02:58 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Mar 2 02:03:14 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] 500 Server error In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I received the following error after Reviewing and clicking > on Train - > > > Training... Saving... Done. Trained on 10 messages. > > 500 Server error > Traceback (most recent call last): > [...] > File "/usr/lib/python2.2/email/Header.py", line 67, in decode_header > if not ecre.search(header): > > RuntimeError: maximum recursion limit exceeded This looks the same as this bug: [ 802530 ] Unable to review messages this morning Which I closed because we hadn't heard back from the OP in a long time (i.e. it wasn't ever resolved). What operating system is this? sb_server increases the stack size (I presume that's the limit that's being hit, although I could be wrong) on Mac OS X, which I think was to avoid something like this. Do you have Python 2.3 or 2.4 available to you? If you do, do you get the same problem when using them? This could be something that has been fixed in the email package (or in the re module). Finally, I suspect that it's one individual message that is causing the problem here. If you could identify which one, and give us a copy of it, that would help a lot. There are two ways I can think of to do that. One is to put a "print message.id" before the "messageInfo.bodySummary = self._trimHeader(text, 200)" line in ProxyUI (the last id printed is the problem one). The other is to move messages out of the cache until it works. (Much more work, but doesn't involve touching the code). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Mar 2 02:07:10 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Mar 2 02:07:17 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Auto delete of Spam after X number of days ormarksomehow In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [Scott Whalen] >> I do not want to mark them read since it is my understanding >> that, that is one way to let the spammers know you looked at >> it and they continue to send you more spam. Is that >> understanding correct? [Kenneth Sole] > Marking messages "read" (or marking them in any other way) > sends nothing to anyone else. I suspect that you are > confusing that with responding to the sender to let them know > that you wish to be "removed" from their list. That does, in > fact, notify them that yours is a legitimate address. Or possibly also with actually reading the message (getting the mailer to display it), which is not the same as marking it as read (in any mailer that I am familiar with). If the message has links to external content (images, etc), and the mailer automatically retrieves that external content, then it's possible to use those as "legitimate address" detectors. They're called web bugs or something like that. However, Kenneth is right that (at least AFAIK) marking as read sends nothing*. =Tony.Meyer * One more possible exception. If you have your mailer to automatically send "read receipts" when requested (this is a bad idea, anyway) then marking as read probably does send the receipt. It would be easy to test that. Confirming read receipts (for the 0.1% of people that use them) manually fixes that, anyway. -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Mar 2 02:10:31 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Mar 2 02:10:37 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Auto delete of Spam after X number of days or marksomehow In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Here's the "best practice" I developed as I faced the same > issue as you did: > > 1. Configured SB to send the spam to a designated folder > (e.g. the predefined "Junk e-mail" in case of Outlook 2003). > Standard behavior so far. 2. I created another folder called > "all my spam" which in my case lives inside another PST file > (but does not have to be, of course). This conserves the size > of my main PST. 3. Every hour or so I scan the detected spam: > 3.1 False positives are moved back to inbox (using the > button "recover from spam") > 3.2 Move real spam to the "all my spam" folder > 4. Sleep(3600); goto 3; FWIW, this is essentially the same thing as I do, too. In my case not to keep track of what spam I've checked (I mark as read as well), but because my spam folder is on an Exchange server, where space is expensive and limited, and my "all my spam" folder is in a local pst file, where space is cheap and essentially unlimited (since I keep all my spam). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Mar 2 02:11:44 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Mar 2 02:11:52 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Express In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > However, I also use Outlook Express to access another > e-mail account. May I use SpamBayes in OLE also? Please see FAQ 2.1: =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From steveng at pop.jaring.my Wed Mar 2 02:30:52 2005 From: steveng at pop.jaring.my (Stephen Ng) Date: Wed Mar 2 02:32:22 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] 500 Server error In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4225174C.4030302@pop.jaring.my> Hi! Thanks for the quick reply. Sorry I did not provide all the details. I'm running on RedHat 9. I will try with Python2.4 and the print message.id and let you know. Regards. Stephen Ng Tony Meyer wrote: >>I received the following error after Reviewing and clicking >>on Train - >> >> >>Training... Saving... Done. Trained on 10 messages. >> >>500 Server error >>Traceback (most recent call last): >> >> >> >[...] > > >> File "/usr/lib/python2.2/email/Header.py", line 67, in decode_header >> if not ecre.search(header): >> >>RuntimeError: maximum recursion limit exceeded >> >> > >This looks the same as this bug: > >[ 802530 ] Unable to review messages this morning >802530> > >Which I closed because we hadn't heard back from the OP in a long time (i.e. >it wasn't ever resolved). > >What operating system is this? sb_server increases the stack size (I >presume that's the limit that's being hit, although I could be wrong) on Mac >OS X, which I think was to avoid something like this. > >Do you have Python 2.3 or 2.4 available to you? If you do, do you get the >same problem when using them? This could be something that has been fixed >in the email package (or in the re module). > >Finally, I suspect that it's one individual message that is causing the >problem here. If you could identify which one, and give us a copy of it, >that would help a lot. There are two ways I can think of to do that. One >is to put a "print message.id" before the "messageInfo.bodySummary = >self._trimHeader(text, 200)" line in ProxyUI (the last id printed is the >problem one). The other is to move messages out of the cache until it >works. (Much more work, but doesn't involve touching the code). > >=Tony.Meyer > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050302/df3dfbc2/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Mar 2 03:26:12 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Mar 2 03:26:21 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Wonderful tool! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > The limited spam that makes it thru all seems to use the same > countermeasure: > This spam contains a high percentage of unrelated text that > appears to either be from a novel/book or words from a dictionary. This is often called "word salad". > In some cases, this text is mildly concealed thru small and/or > light font or else placing well beneath the main spam message. SpamBayes currently ignores basically all HTML tags, which includes those that change the formatting in this way, so all text is treated equally regardless of what the mailer renders it like. > Any advice on counter-countermeasures? > Will the algorithm learn formatting anomalies such as this and > I should just be patient? If you just keep training on any mistakes, SpamBayes should cope quite well. As long as the text is more-or-less random, then it shouldn't be any problem. The theory is that random words are just as likely to be in your spam training as your ham training, so the overall effect is neglible. There should be remaining clues (in the headers if nowhere else) that can be used to get the right classification. (Tailored spam, where the random text is personally aimed at you is different, and spam where the spam content is an image isn't handled as well). Anyway, lots of people have said lots of things about this sort of attack, but at the moment SpamBayes ought to manage reasonably well. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Mar 2 03:33:11 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Mar 2 03:33:16 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Express In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > SpamBayes is working fine but I don't know how to link > it to Outlook Express so I can automatically delete spam. Because Outlook Express is so limited, you have to get SpamBayes to add the classification to the Subject (or To: list) and get Outlook Express to filter on that. To get SpamBayes to add the classification: 1. Right click on the SpamBayes (little envelope) icon in the tray (next to the clock), and choose "Configure..." 2. About halfway down the page there are options for "Notate To" and "Notate Subject". Tick the "unsure" and "spam" boxes for "Notate Subject". 3. Save the configuration changes (bottom of the page). Incoming spam/unsure mail will now have "spam," or "unsure," added to the subject. To get Outlook Express to filter on these: 1. From the "Tools" menu, choose "Message Rules", then "Mail". 2. Click "New" 3. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Mar 2 03:36:37 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Mar 2 03:36:42 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Express In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Apologies. Trying to do too many things at once and sent this when only half done. > SpamBayes is working fine but I don't know how to link > it to Outlook Express so I can automatically delete spam. Because Outlook Express is so limited, you have to get SpamBayes to add the classification to the Subject (or To: list) and get Outlook Express to filter on that. To get SpamBayes to add the classification: 1. Right click on the SpamBayes (little envelope) icon in the tray (next to the clock), and choose "Configure..." 2. About halfway down the page there are options for "Notate To" and "Notate Subject". Tick the "unsure" and "spam" boxes for "Notate Subject". 3. Save the configuration changes (bottom of the page). Incoming spam/unsure mail will now have "spam," or "unsure," added to the subject. To get Outlook Express to filter on these: 1. From the "Tools" menu, choose "Message Rules", then "Mail". 2. Click "New" 3. Tick the "Where the subject contains specific words" box at the top. 4. Tick the "Move to the specified folder" box in the middle. 5. Click the blue "contains specific words" in the bottom, and enter "spam," (with the comma, without the quotes). 6. Click the blue "specified" in the bottom and choose the folder that you want spam to be moved to. 7. Give the rule a name (e.g. "SpamBayes spam") 8. Click OK. 9. Repeat steps 2-8, but for unsure mail. 10. Click OK. And you should be all done. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Mar 2 03:37:25 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Mar 2 03:37:29 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] FW: Forward from Spam Folder Message-ID: Came to my personal mail - I presume was meant for the list. -TAM. -----Original Message----- From: Jones, Larry [mailto:LJones@Lithonia.com] Sent: Wednesday, 2 March 2005 3:30 p.m. To: 'Tony Meyer' Subject: Forward from Spam Folder Does anyone know of a free add-in/tool to forward mail from my spam folder, and then delete it? Before deleting I would like to forward it to a spam reporting url for my isp. I would like to set this up so it is all automatic. Any software for this, or ideas how to do it? Larry Jones Hydrel/AcuityBrands Lighting From ta-meyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Mar 2 05:26:49 2005 From: ta-meyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Mar 2 05:26:54 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: SpamBayes bugs: why closed? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I'm writing regarding bugs 1145057 and 1152264 that you > have closed. I'm sorry but your explanation is not satisfactory > at all. The appropriate place for such comments is in the bug tracker (or, if absolutely necessary, on spambayes@python.org). Please do not send me unsolicited mail about spambayes. > As I explained in the second bug (which you dismissed > as duplicate) It certainly appears to be a duplicate to me. Why do you think it is not? (Again, please enter such comments in the tracker). > the log file grows limitless IN A MATTER OF > MINUTES. This happens to me EVERY DAY now. Do you > really think this is appropriate? It is appropriate to log errors, yes. The cause of the errors is that a connection is attempted and fails. A temporary solution is to stop the mail client trying to connect (or at least as often) when the connection is failing. > I'm a software engineer myself > so I know what I'm talking about. I understand it's hard to > diagnose and fix it without being able to reproduce it, so > maybe I can help you to research it? As detailed in the bug reports, the code has been changed so that duplicate errors are only logged once per hour, which ought to fix this problem. This fix is in CVS Head, so will appear in 1.1a1, when someone manages to release that. (There are no plans for a 1.0.4 release, so the fix has not been backported). > Maybe I can run some > special version that would provide an insight to what is > actually happening. You are welcome to run from CVS, like anyone else, and check that the fix works for you. If it does not, then please reopen the original bug report with additional information. This is the standard behaviour. Alternatively, you are welcome to patch your own copy of spambayes, in any way that you like. If you want to try the same patch (to keep using 1.0.x rather than 1.1, which includes many other changes), then the CVS history (accessible via viewcvs on sourceforge), and the spambayes-checkins list (see ) have diff's that you can use to apply it. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From steveng at pop.jaring.my Wed Mar 2 10:36:37 2005 From: steveng at pop.jaring.my (Stephen Ng) Date: Wed Mar 2 10:38:08 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] 500 Server error In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42258925.7040702@pop.jaring.my> Hi! I have not yet tried your suggestions. However, I noticed that whenever I Review messages and click on Train the training completes and is saved. However, it will produce the error repeatedly. It appears that the error is not dependent on a particular message in the cache since all previous messages in the cache have already been cleared. When the cache is empty, the error appears on clicking Review message. Does this behaviour provide any new clues for you? I have not had this problem before and I have been using Spambayes for a very long time. So far I have trained on 14000 Spams and 12000 Hams. So I feel it is not related to python or the email package. Regards. Stephen Ng Tony Meyer wrote: >>I received the following error after Reviewing and clicking >>on Train - >> >> >>Training... Saving... Done. Trained on 10 messages. >> >>500 Server error >>Traceback (most recent call last): >> >> >> >[...] > > >> File "/usr/lib/python2.2/email/Header.py", line 67, in decode_header >> if not ecre.search(header): >> >>RuntimeError: maximum recursion limit exceeded >> >> > >This looks the same as this bug: > >[ 802530 ] Unable to review messages this morning >802530> > >Which I closed because we hadn't heard back from the OP in a long time (i.e. >it wasn't ever resolved). > >What operating system is this? sb_server increases the stack size (I >presume that's the limit that's being hit, although I could be wrong) on Mac >OS X, which I think was to avoid something like this. > >Do you have Python 2.3 or 2.4 available to you? If you do, do you get the >same problem when using them? This could be something that has been fixed >in the email package (or in the re module). > >Finally, I suspect that it's one individual message that is causing the >problem here. If you could identify which one, and give us a copy of it, >that would help a lot. There are two ways I can think of to do that. One >is to put a "print message.id" before the "messageInfo.bodySummary = >self._trimHeader(text, 200)" line in ProxyUI (the last id printed is the >problem one). The other is to move messages out of the cache until it >works. (Much more work, but doesn't involve touching the code). > >=Tony.Meyer > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050302/1217ddd9/attachment.html From mariki0757 at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 2 15:04:30 2005 From: mariki0757 at sbcglobal.net (Mariki) Date: Wed Mar 2 15:04:36 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Message-ID: <000001c51f30$c18afd90$6401a8c0@D4QFGV51> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: spambayes1.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 2063 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050302/b0b6c27b/spambayes1.obj From skip at pobox.com Wed Mar 2 15:14:19 2005 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Wed Mar 2 15:14:09 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: SpamBayes bugs: why closed? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <16933.51771.434824.481957@montanaro.dyndns.org> Tony> Alternatively, you are welcome to patch your own copy of Tony> spambayes, in any way that you like. If you want to try the same Tony> patch (to keep using 1.0.x rather than 1.1, which includes many Tony> other changes), then the CVS history (accessible via viewcvs on Tony> sourceforge), and the spambayes-checkins list (see Tony> ) have diff's that you can use Tony> to apply it. Valera, Also, if you're willing to step up to the plate and be the release manager for a 1.0.4 version I doubt anyone would stand in your way. ;-) Skip From cld at ccapcable.com Wed Mar 2 17:41:31 2005 From: cld at ccapcable.com (Claude Desaulniers) Date: Wed Mar 2 18:31:10 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] how do I uninstall the program Message-ID: <000801c51f46$b05995c0$837ba8c0@pcchips> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.1 - Release Date: 2005-02-27 From ta-meyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Mar 3 01:23:22 2005 From: ta-meyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Mar 3 01:23:30 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: [ 1113863 ] sb_tray eats all cpu tim In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Please add comments via the trackers, or, if necessary, the spambayes@python.org list, rather than sending me personal mail. That way you'll get the benefit of answers from everyone. > You marked this as foxed/closed. This is happening to me > constantly and really can't use SB anymore. Can you not stop your mail client attempting to make connections when the connection is not available? > Is there a > deveolpment release I could try to se if it fixes my problem? You can run from CVS (click the CVS link at , follow the instructions there to get a CVS checkout, and then follow the spambayes instructions for running from source). Alternatively, you could download the source archive for 1.0.3, run from that and apply the patch manually. 1.1a1 will have this fix, but unless someone else steps up to do the release, it won't be out until the end of the month. As Skip mentioned in a previous list email, if someone wants to volunteer to put together a 1.0.4 with this fix (instructions on building a release are in README-DEVEL.txt), then I doubt anyone will stand in the way. (And some help would even be provided). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From gcmaildrop at yahoo.com Thu Mar 3 02:15:21 2005 From: gcmaildrop at yahoo.com (Geoff Cheshire) Date: Thu Mar 3 02:15:24 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: [ 1113863 ] sb_tray eats all cpu tim In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050303011521.55085.qmail@web50405.mail.yahoo.com> Thanks for the quick and informative reply. My problem is that my mail server/internet connection *is* available. It's just that I'm getting this behavior for some other reason. A timeout perhaps? (As I said, I'm chaining Spambayes behind ClamMail, which seems to be a bit unreliable. I often have to restart Thunderbird's downloading of multiple messages (say, more than 5 at a time). When this problem occurs -- the 100% CPU and huge log file -- nothing I do can get Spambayes up and running again. I have to kill the sb_tray.exe process and each time I restart it, it again pegs the CPU load and stalls. No messages come through. This is while I have an active internet connection and my pop3 server is available. This week has been ridiculously busy for me. I may be able to tackle putting together a package by this weekend or next week. Possibly. Thanks again, Geoff --- Tony Meyer wrote: > Please add comments via the trackers, or, if necessary, the > spambayes@python.org list, rather than sending me personal mail. > That way > you'll get the benefit of answers from everyone. > > > You marked this as foxed/closed. This is happening to me > > constantly and really can't use SB anymore. > > Can you not stop your mail client attempting to make connections > when the > connection is not available? > > > Is there a > > deveolpment release I could try to se if it fixes my problem? > > You can run from CVS (click the CVS link at > , follow the instructions there > to get a > CVS checkout, and then follow the spambayes instructions for > running from > source). > > Alternatively, you could download the source archive for 1.0.3, run > from > that and apply the patch manually. > > 1.1a1 will have this fix, but unless someone else steps up to do > the > release, it won't be out until the end of the month. As Skip > mentioned in a > previous list email, if someone wants to volunteer to put together > a 1.0.4 > with this fix (instructions on building a release are in > README-DEVEL.txt), > then I doubt anyone will stand in the way. (And some help would > even be > provided). > > =Tony.Meyer > > -- > Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your > replies > (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about > SpamBayes. > http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains > this. > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Mar 3 04:17:06 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Mar 3 04:17:07 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: [ 1113863 ] sb_tray eats all cpu tim In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Thanks for the quick and informative reply. My problem is > that my mail server/internet connection *is* available. It's > just that I'm getting this behavior for some other reason. A > timeout perhaps? Sorry - I didn't re-read the bug report (there have been many complaints about this not being fixed, which often don't take into account the volunteer nature of the project). The best solution really is to avoid these errors occurring, rather than to simply quiet down the reporting of the errors (as the 'fix' in CVS does). For many people, the errors were because their mail server tried to connect when the server couldn't be reached. > (As I said, I'm chaining Spambayes behind > ClamMail, which seems to be a bit unreliable. I often have > to restart Thunderbird's downloading of multiple messages > (say, more than 5 at a time). I suppose if the problem is due to buggy software upstream, then there's not much you can do (other than getting that software fixed somehow). If you can copy one of the error messages that's choking the log to the list or on the tracker it would be easy enough to verify that it's a timeout, or whatever. If it is a timeout, then 1.0.x spambayes doesn't let you adjust the timeout period, so there's no way of fixing it by doing that. (This is also something that has been addressed in CVS, and so will be in 1.1). [...] > This week has been ridiculously busy for me. I may be able > to tackle putting together a package by this weekend or next > week. Possibly. Running from CVS source would solve the problem for you (almost certainly - and if it doesn't, then the fix is flawed and I'll happily address that ASAP), and wouldn't take long to do. 1. Uninstall SpamBayes (this leaves the configuration & training) 2. Install Python 2.4 () if you don't have it already 3. Install a CVS client (e.g. ) if you don't have one already 4. Do an anonymous checkout of the spambayes CVS source (as described on the CVS page of ) 5. Run "c:\python24\python {...}\spambayes\windows\pop3proxy_tray.py" (fixing the paths for wherever you put things) when you'd normally have run sb_tray.exe. (This should pick up the old configuration and training without any work). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Mar 3 04:30:19 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Mar 3 04:30:26 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] how do I uninstall the program In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I thought I would be able to use this spam filter and > I am in trouble - I do NOT understand HOW to use it and > all the time I spent on it does not tell me more. You are welcome to give up, of course, but if you'd rather get it working, feel free to ask for help. > I want to uninstall - how is this done [...] Use the "Add/Remove Programs" control panel. Note that this is the way you uninstall just about any Windows software. (If you have configured Outlook Express to connect to localhost instead of to your mail server, you will need to undo that. I suspect from your message that you have not done so). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Mar 3 04:33:32 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Mar 3 04:33:42 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: You are much more likely to get a useful answer if you ask a question. Ideally, you'll also describe your system and what the problem you are having is. At a guess from the log, you're trying to select the Deleted Items folder as the spam folder, and finding that it doesn't work. If that is your problem, then please see FAQ 3.11: If it's not, then please try asking a question rather than relying on us guessing! =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From klaus.berndl at sdm.de Thu Mar 3 19:02:04 2005 From: klaus.berndl at sdm.de (klaus.berndl@sdm.de) Date: Thu Mar 3 19:02:06 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with office 2003 Message-ID: Hi, i upgraded to office 2003 (incl. Outlook 2003) and now i can't start Outlook 2003 because appearantly that Spambayes version is used with my old Outlook XP does not work with Outlook 2003 - sorry, i can not say which version of Spambayes i use because i can not start Outlook... is it possible to start Outlook without Spambayes addin? If you can tell me this then i could start Outlook 2003, deinstall or remove Spambayes from Outlook 2003 and then maybe reinstall a newer Spambayes-version which works with Outlook 2003 (if such a version exists?) - I have already deinstalled Spambayes from the Windows-system but this is not enough, Outlook seems to habe still some link to it because it still fails to startup... Thansk for help in advance! Klaus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050303/e55fc0f0/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Mar 3 23:25:26 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Mar 3 23:26:09 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Multiple Instances In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > One question anyway: Where are the untrained messages stored? In the unknown cache directory. By default this will be a folder called pop3proxy-unknown-cache in the same folder as your configuration file is. You can change it in the Advanced configuration page. > If i don?t train the filter for a week or so, the "Review > messages"-option get stuck because of thousands of untrained > mails. Messages are expired out of the caches after a certain period of time (the default is 7 days). You can change the period of time (to 2 days, for example), also on the Advanced configuration page. There're also three other options (on the main configuration page): one that turns off caching altogether (then you can't train via the review page, of course), one that sets a limit on the size of messages that are cached (e.g. only cache messages < 0.5k), and one that suppresses caching on bulk ham (e.g. mailing lists). These might also help. > So i decided to simply delete these untrained > messages. But i can?t find them. I think that they are stored > in the ham-, spam- or unknown-folders, but how can i > differentiate the trained messages from the untrained messages? The ham & spam folders have mail that has been trained as ham/spam only. All mail waiting to be trained is in the unknown folder. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Mar 4 02:23:59 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Mar 4 02:24:07 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with office 2003 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > i upgraded to office 2003 (incl. Outlook 2003) and now i can't > start Outlook 2003 because appearantly that Spambayes version > is used with my old Outlook XP does not work with Outlook 2003 All versions of the SpamBayes plug-in work with Outlook 2000, 2002 (XP) and 2003. Try uninstalling the plug-in and then reinstalling it. > is it possible to start Outlook without Spambayes addin? Uninstalling does this. You won't lose any of your training or configuration data. [...] > I have already deinstalled Spambayes from the Windows-system but this > is not enough, Outlook seems to habe still some link to it because > it still fails to startup... Why do you believe that SpamBayes is at fault? If you have uninstalled, then there should be nothing left of SpamBayes (other than the training and configuration files), and Outlook can't possibly try to load it. What error do you get when trying to start Outlook? Have you tried to do a "Detect and Repair" on Outlook? =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Mar 4 05:47:52 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Mar 4 05:48:08 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] 500 Server error In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > It appears that the error is not dependent on a particular > message in the cache since all previous messages in the cache > have already been cleared. When the cache is empty, the error > appears on clicking Review message. Does this behaviour provide > any new clues for you? I don't understand how the error can occur when the cache is empty, since the code that produces the error is only called when iterating through the messages. Are you positive that the cache(s) are empty, and that the error is being freshly generated and is not from the browser cache? > I have not had this problem before and I have been using Spambayes > for a very long time. That's the reason that I suspect that a particular message is at fault, since nothing else has changed. > So I feel it is not related to python or the email package. The latest version (included with Python 2.4) of the email package is much more robust at handling problems that occur when parsing messages. This problem occurs when parsing the message (or so the traceback indicates). It's also very seldom seen, which hints that it might be something that is fixed in 2.3 or 2.4 (since the vast majority of people will be using SpamBayes with 2.3). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Mar 4 05:50:46 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Mar 4 05:50:51 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Please insert disk labeled "Visual Basic forApplications". In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I have one PC that gives this error every time I try > to access Spambayes Manager. Spambayes will not load > correctly not having the "training" dialog or the Suspect > and Junk mail folder options. I tried installing VBA6.msi > but this didn't work. PC is Windows XP SP2, on W2K network, > MS Office XP. This sounds a little like this bug report: [ 1069572 ] Toolbar Problem: trying to install an app Although not exactly the same. Do you have any other plug-ins installed with that machine? Are you using any custom forms? Have you tried doing a "Detect and Repair" on Outlook? =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Mar 4 05:53:31 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Mar 4 05:53:35 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy: I couldn't send e-mail whitNorton Antivirus 2005 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > The problem I am having is The problem I have is since I have > installed the new version of Norton System Work 2005 who is > added a new option of Norton Antivirus "Protecci?n del Gusano > de Internet" (In English Worm Internet Protection, I Guess!)I > think it works like some kind of firewall, There is some > times (the most of the times!) that I couldn't donwload my > e-mail, because the norton antivirus believe that Spambayes > is some kind of worm, this happens however i have configured > the exclusions (of course all kind of activities is allowed > to spambayes). Actually, I have to configure Norton Antivirus > whitout the Internet Worm Protection, in order to be able to > download my e-mail. Presumably it thinks that SpamBayes is suspicious because it is connecting to your mail server. SpamBayes needs to do that in order to work, so the only solution is to somehow tell the anti-virus software that SpamBayes is allowed to do this. If the anti-virus software ignores you telling it that, then you should tell the anti-virus software vender about the problem, since it's their software that's not doing what you tell it. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Mar 4 05:55:50 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Mar 4 05:55:56 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] oddly enough In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I just installed your program yesterday, and it appears > to be doing it's job, training going well, etc. However, > now for each message I receive of "good" mail it kindly > duplicates the message so I, in fact, receive two duplicate > messages. Which SpamBayes application are you using with which mail program? If this is sb_imapfilter, then are the duplicate messages marked for deletion? If this is Outlook, if you go to the Filtering tab in the Manager, is SpamBayes set to Copy or Move? If this is sb_server, is your mail client connecting only to localhost and not both to localhost and directly to the mail server? =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Mar 4 05:57:48 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Mar 4 05:57:53 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes corruption In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I have istalled SB 1.0.3 on Outlook 2000 on W98se > It works fine until I shutdown and restart the PC the next day. > Then Outlook starts OK but the SB button on the toolbar > is now a small blank square without any meu items on it. > If I shut down outlook and re-install SB, all is OK again > until the next re-boot. The SB.log file is empty. Are all the SpamBayesX.log files empty? There should at least be ones that have the message saying that SpamBayes was installed, and if SpamBayes is working at all then there will be a log with messages in it. Have you tried doing a "Detect and Repair" on Outlook? Have you checked that it's not Outlook disabling SpamBayes each day, for some reason? =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Mar 4 06:00:00 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Mar 4 06:00:05 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] imap filter hangs in training In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >>> I have a problem with the imap filter. >>> >>> 1. I run it: python sb_imapfilter.py -c -t -v -l 3 -P >>> 2. It finds my existing hammie.db. >>> 3. I provide the password. >>> 4. Then it stops with the following message: >>> >>> Training >>> Training ham folder INBOX >>> * >>> >>> What am I doing wrong? >> >> It's very strange that it just hangs rather than just >> crashing. It you run it with -i4 (python sb_imapfiler.py -c >> -t -v -l 3 -P -i4) what're the last few command >> command/responses that get printed out before the hang? > Reads like this: > > 50:28.67 < HBOM5 OK UID Completed > * 50:28.67 > HBOM6 UID FETCH 402002222 (FLAGS INTERNALDATE) > 50:28.92 < * 1 FETCH (FLAGS (\ANSWERED \SEEN) INTERNALDATE > "5-Feb-2005 13:00:4 1 +0100" UID 402002222) > 50:28.92 < HBOM6 OK UID Completed > 50:28.92 > HBOM7 APPEND INBOX (\ANSWERED \SEEN) "5-Feb-2005 13:00:41 > +0100" {3 > 155} Even stranger. It's storing the classified copy of the message, but that's only 3Kb, so it shouldn't take very long. Do you ever have any other problems connecting to the IMAP server? Is your mail client open or closed while you do this? If open, try running imapfilter with it closed and see if that makes any difference. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Mar 4 06:01:15 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Mar 4 06:01:22 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] running spambayes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > If one is using spam killer from mcafee can you use this > program along with it or take out mcafee and run yours? Without knowing anything about the other product, you should be able to use both if you want to. If you'd rather, you can stop using the other and just use SpamBayes - it's really up to you. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Mar 4 06:02:53 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Mar 4 06:02:58 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] I have tried everything and spambayes does notfileranything. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > is there a way to get spambayes to consolidate a list of > subject lines and send one email every couple hours asking > for permission to trash??? No. If you would like SpamBayes to be able to do this, please open a feature request via sourceforge: Making sure to be clear about what you are after, and for which SpamBayes application. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Mar 4 06:04:37 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Mar 4 06:04:42 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] I have tried everything and spambayes does not fileranything. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [...] > SpamBayes: Watching for new messages in folder Inbox > SpamBayes: Watching for new messages in folder Inbox-Spam [...] There's no indication that any mail was received during the time that SpamBayes was producing that log. Are you certain that it's watching a folder that's getting mail? Perhaps it's watching a different "Inbox" than you think it is? =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From arne at evertsson.com Fri Mar 4 08:43:49 2005 From: arne at evertsson.com (Arne Evertsson) Date: Fri Mar 4 08:44:04 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] imap filter hangs in training In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200503040845265.SM00900@tsucm015dev> >> 50:28.67 < HBOM5 OK UID Completed >> * 50:28.67 > HBOM6 UID FETCH 402002222 (FLAGS INTERNALDATE) >> 50:28.92 < * 1 FETCH (FLAGS (\ANSWERED \SEEN) INTERNALDATE >> "5-Feb-2005 13:00:4 1 +0100" UID 402002222) >> 50:28.92 < HBOM6 OK UID Completed >> 50:28.92 > HBOM7 APPEND INBOX (\ANSWERED \SEEN) "5-Feb-2005 13:00:41 >> +0100" {3 >> 155} >Even stranger. It's storing the classified copy of the message, but that's >only 3Kb, so it shouldn't take very long. Do you ever have any other >problems connecting to the IMAP server? Is your mail client open or closed >while you do this? If open, try running imapfilter with it closed and see >if that makes any difference. Open or closed makes no difference. And I usually don't have any trouble connecting with my mail client. I also tried without my pretrained hammie.db and spambayes.messageinfo.db (from running the Outlook plugin), but the result is the same. /Arne Evertsson From lee at darkwave.org.uk Fri Mar 4 10:12:29 2005 From: lee at darkwave.org.uk (Lee Edward Armstrong) Date: Fri Mar 4 10:12:30 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Port for pop server References: Message-ID: <4228267D.8040707@darkwave.org.uk> Hi There, Is there any way to change what the outbound port is, i can change what port spambayes listens on but i can't find how to change the port it retrieves the mail from. The reason, i need to chain proxies as AVG for pegasus sits as a proxy and at the momemt its a choice between viruses or spam ! Ta, Lee -- Lee Edward Armstrong - http://www.darkwave.org.uk/~lee My Clothes will impress you, And my claws will undress you -The Damned From rod.carr at aro.ie Fri Mar 4 10:54:23 2005 From: rod.carr at aro.ie (Rod Carr) Date: Fri Mar 4 10:54:27 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Sharing databases between outlook plugin and proxy Message-ID: <68E65FAE762CDD44A37C16D3C7256452AD7A9B@cuchulainn.aro.ie> I've been using the outlook plugin with Outlook 2003 for a few months, and find it incredibly effective. However, I'm using this at work with an exchange server, and have recently started using Mozilla Thunderbird on the same machine for my personal email using POP3 and SMTP, so I've installed the proxy as well. 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(It used to work perfectly and then all of a sudden stopped) I need simple directions as I am technically challenged and the person who set this up for me has passed away. I thank you in advance. Susan Shubin sshubin@mdlab.org From rnb at cecconi.org.uk Sat Mar 5 10:45:28 2005 From: rnb at cecconi.org.uk (cecconi) Date: Sat Mar 5 10:45:31 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes corruption In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Tony, Thanks for the reply. yes there are log files. Here they are attached. The 1st one, SB2 just says "Registration complete" The 2nd one, SB1 is at the time of the first start up of Outlook just after SB install (at which time SB works). The last line looks strange to me. It says "Addin terminating: 2 COM client and 2 COM servers exist." >From then on (after a reboot) I get no more SB log files and SB does not work. The SB toolbar is present in Outlook, but the "Delete as Spam" does nothing and the "Spambayes" button just produces a small blank square intsead of the drop down menu. I've tried uninstalling and re-installing both 1.0.1 and 1.0.3. Both only work until the first reboot. Any ideas? regards, EC -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: 04 March 2005 04:58 To: 'cecconi'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] spambayes corruption > I have istalled SB 1.0.3 on Outlook 2000 on W98se > It works fine until I shutdown and restart the PC the next day. > Then Outlook starts OK but the SB button on the toolbar > is now a small blank square without any meu items on it. > If I shut down outlook and re-install SB, all is OK again > until the next re-boot. The SB.log file is empty. Are all the SpamBayesX.log files empty? 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Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.2 - Release Date: 2/28/05 From benjamin_mueller at web.de Sun Mar 6 02:04:07 2005 From: benjamin_mueller at web.de (benjamin mueller) Date: Sun Mar 6 02:04:07 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy: SpamBayes is crashing suddenly Message-ID: <422A5707.8060602@web.de> I am using SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 1.0.3 (January 2005) (binary), with version 2.4 (#60, Nov 30 2004, 11:49:19) [MSC v.1310 32 bit (Intel)] of Python; my operating system is Windows 5.0.2195.2 (Service Pack 4). I have trained 56 ham and 132 spam. The problem I am having is SpamBayes is crashing suddenly. This error seems to be randomly. A few days everything is fine but than the program crashes with a error message. After restarting the program everything is back to normal. I never saw something like this with version 1.01. Log files are attached. Normally SpamBayes is working great. But I hope to see version 1.1a1 soon :) Sincerely, Benjamin Mueller -- -------------- next part -------------- Service not available. Using thread. Loading database... Listener on port 8002 is proxying pop.gmx.net:110 Listener on port 8004 is proxying pop3.web.de:110 Listener on port 8006 is proxying 127.0.0.1:110 User interface url is http://localhost:8880/ error: uncaptured python exception, closing channel (socket.error:(10035, 'The socket operation could not complete without blocking') [asynchat.pyc|handle_read|89] [asyncore.pyc|recv|343]) error: uncaptured python exception, closing channel (socket.error:(10035, 'The socket operation could not complete without blocking') [asynchat.pyc|handle_read|89] [asyncore.pyc|recv|343]) -------------- next part -------------- Service not available. Using thread. Loading database... Listener on port 8002 is proxying pop.gmx.net:110 Listener on port 8004 is proxying pop3.web.de:110 Listener on port 8006 is proxying 127.0.0.1:110 User interface url is http://localhost:8880/ error: uncaptured python exception, closing channel (socket.error:(10035, 'The socket operation could not complete without blocking') [asynchat.pyc|handle_read|89] [asyncore.pyc|recv|343]) From felipeyesther at terra.es Sun Mar 6 11:43:09 2005 From: felipeyesther at terra.es (Felipe Romero) Date: Sun Mar 6 11:43:30 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Autotraining & definetly delete spam Message-ID: <20050306104329.7C6B91E4003@bag.python.org> Hi all, This is my first time in the list. I have several (don't know if) questions or suggestions. First of all, autotraining. I don't know if, when I click on "delete as spam" or "recover from spam", the bayesian kernel is training by itself. Also, I would like to know if the filtering process includes any kind of autotraining, in order to reinforce its database of spam/ham tokens. Second, definitely deletion of messages. I think that messages with a score higher than a certain level should be definitely deleted in Windows, Outlook. Thank you, Felipe (Spain) From gplaikind at kurschatco.com Sat Mar 5 20:20:03 2005 From: gplaikind at kurschatco.com (Gregory Laikind) Date: Sun Mar 6 16:26:19 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes problems Message-ID: <5C4B14030C02D745B32D220A26415766071839@rosie.kurschat.local> I am running SpamBayes Outlook Addin v 1.0.3 in Outlook 2000 SP3 on Windows XP SP2. I have set up a Rules Wizard filter that will move any mail not from specific addresses to a folder named "Quarantine" and to allow all others to pass into my "Inbox" folder. I have set up SpamBayes to watch both my Inbox and Quarantine folders, and move items from there to either "Junk Suspects" or "Junk E-Mail." Outlook was doing a good job of filtering, but SpamBayes wasn't catching hardly any of the spam. Even when they were nearly identical to previously trained spam. I completely removed Spambayes, assuming that the training had become corrupted. I deleted all of the extra files and folders not removed at uninstall, including: C:\Documents and Settings\gplaikind\Local Settings\Temp\spambayes1.log, etc. C:\Documents and Settings\gplaikind\Application Data\SpamBayes and C:\Program Files\SpamBayes After reinstalling and training, these four were classified as 0%, but are nearly identical to all the spam I trained Spambayes was Junk Email. I've included the four log files from the first install and the two from the new install. As far as I can tell, these spam are simply avoiding offensive language and are relying on links to images that include gibberish. But since each gibberish link is unique, they ALL get through. 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Name: Old spambayes4.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 6764 bytes Desc: Old spambayes4.log Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050305/5d667bca/Oldspambayes4-0001.obj From joel at stevecrocker.com Sun Mar 6 23:07:44 2005 From: joel at stevecrocker.com (Joel M. Halpern) Date: Sun Mar 6 23:08:10 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] unbounded "warning: unhandled exception" Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050306170253.02cfd468@mail.stevecrocker.com> I have used SpamBayes for several years on a previous computer. I upgrade laptops, installed ActivePython, and installed SpamBayes It seemed to be running just fine. However, I eventually got a warning that I was running out of disk space. It turns out that Spambayes is generating an unbounded sequence of warning: unhandled exception messages into the log. The first couple of lines of the log read: Service not available. Using thread. Loading database... SMTP Listener on port 25 is proxying Listener on port 110 is proxying User interface url is http://localhost:8880/ warning: unhandled exception warning: unhandled exception warning: unhandled exception warning: unhandled exception warning: unhandled exception warning: unhandled exception I presume I have something misconfigured. I am happy to provide the config file if that is needed so that I can re-enable SpamBayes. (I have, perforce, disabled it.) Thank you, Joel M. Halpern From jszyman3 at merr.com Sun Mar 6 23:56:25 2005 From: jszyman3 at merr.com (Jeff Szymanski) Date: Sun Mar 6 23:56:32 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] ham message training Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050306164802.04e57670@localhost> I have a question about training. SpamBayes has processed 4603 messages for me so far and I'm wondering if I should be discarding those e-mails I receive everyday that are good instead of training them as "ham." I'm concerned that the ham database is growing too large unless, of coarse, the program knows to automatically discard new "hams" that match previous hams even though I'm still adding daily hams to the training. Thanks in advance. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 3/4/2005 From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 7 00:22:28 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Mar 7 00:22:36 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Port for pop server In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Is there any way to change what the outbound port is, i can > change what port spambayes listens on but i can't find how to > change the port it retrieves the mail from. In the main configuration page, enter the server:port that you want to connect to in that form, e.g.: mail.example.com:110,localhost:1110 And so on. The help text to the right of the option explains this. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From vze5bgzj at verizon.net Mon Mar 7 04:06:17 2005 From: vze5bgzj at verizon.net (Mike Blonder) Date: Mon Mar 7 03:45:08 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] How to Change the URL for the User Interface Message-ID: <200503062206.17749.vze5bgzj@verizon.net> Hi. Does anyone know the script where the UI URL is specified? I want to change it from "localhost" to the IP address of the spambayse server. Thanks for any tips you may have on where to set this. I checked "bayescustomize.ini" and could not find a setting there. Mike From tpeters at mixcom.com Mon Mar 7 04:02:50 2005 From: tpeters at mixcom.com (Tom Peters) Date: Mon Mar 7 04:03:17 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] How to Change the URL for the User Interface In-Reply-To: <200503062206.17749.vze5bgzj@verizon.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050306205940.07b76e30@localhost> It's probably the machine's name at port 8880, however you want to refer to it. In my case gandalf:8880 should work, or 172.16.20.10:8880. It's not in the scripts anywhere. With appropriate permissions, you could configure spambayes or review the messages processed from another machine. It's just that localhost always works. I guess by that logic, 127.0.0.1:8880 should always work too. At 10:06 PM 3/6/2005 -0500, Mike Blonder wrote: >Hi. > >Does anyone know the script where the UI URL is specified? I want to change >it from "localhost" to the IP address of the spambayse server. Thanks for >any tips you may have on where to set this. > >I checked "bayescustomize.ini" and could not find a setting there. > >Mike > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Spambayes@python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes >Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html [Temper] Man is a rational animal who always loses his temper when called upon to act according with the dictates of reason. --Oscar Wilde --... ...-- -.. . -. ----. --.- --.- -... tpeters@nospam.mixcom.com (remove "nospam") N9QQB (amateur radio) "HEY YOU" (loud shouting) WEB ADDRESS http//www.mixweb.com/tpeters 43? 7' 17.2" N by 88? 6' 28.9" W, Elevation 815', Grid Square EN53wc WAN/LAN/Telcom Analyst, Tech Writer, MCP, Cisco Certified CCNA From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 7 04:44:47 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Mar 7 04:44:53 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] ham message training In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > SpamBayes has processed 4603 messages for me so far and I'm > wondering if I should be discarding those e-mails I receive > everyday that are good instead of training them as "ham." Not enough research has been done yet into training to really give a definitive answer. However, it is fairly certain that SpamBayes works best with roughly equal numbers of ham and spam, so if training this ham is causing an imbalance, then it's worth considering changing. There's a lot of information about training available here: The golden rule is really that if things are working, then you don't need to change anything. > I'm concerned that the ham database is growing too large > unless, of coarse, the program knows to automatically discard > new "hams" that match previous hams even though I'm still adding > daily hams to the training. sb_server trains what you give it to train - it doesn't do any sort of analysis about whether it should do the training or not. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 7 04:48:23 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Mar 7 04:48:29 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Autotraining & definetly delete spam In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I don't know if, when I click on "delete as spam" or "recover > from spam", the bayesian kernel is training by itself. "Delete As Spam" and "Recover From Spam" both move and train, yes. > Also, I would like to know if the filtering process includes any > kind of autotraining, in order to reinforce its database of > spam/ham tokens. No. Filtering classifies only, it doesn't do any training. > Second, definitely deletion of messages. > > I think that messages with a score higher than a certain > level should be definitely deleted in Windows, Outlook. Please see FAQs 3.9 and 3.11 and this sf tracker: [ 774650 ] Additional post-filtering options =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 7 04:49:49 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Mar 7 04:49:54 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > What I'm noticing is that if I send myself a test message, > it comes into outlook, but then disappears, but not into a Spam > or Spam Suspects folder. I don't know where it is going. Please see FAQ 3.12: =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 7 04:50:47 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Mar 7 04:50:58 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] "Recover from spam" does not work In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I click on "recover from spam" and a dialogue box comes up > telling me what it will do but it doesn't do anything and a > lot of messages I want in my inbox of Microsoft Outlook are > not getting there. Could you please copy down exactly what the error message is and let us know? The wording is very important for us to be able to tell what is wrong, so we can explain how to fix it. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 7 04:53:38 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Mar 7 04:53:46 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Outlook was doing a good job of filtering, but SpamBayes > wasn't catching hardly any of the spam. Even when they were > nearly identical to previously trained spam. [...] > If you need to see any other files, let me know and I'll add them. It is impossible to tell why a message scored what it did without seeing the clues report for that message. Next time a message is incorrectly classified (*before* training) please select the message and choose "Show spam clues for this message" from the SpamBayes menu. Send that message on to the list, and we should be able to figure out what is going wrong. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 7 04:56:59 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Mar 7 04:57:07 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] unbounded "warning: unhandled exception" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > However, I eventually got a warning that I was running out of > disk space. It turns out that Spambayes is generating an > unbounded sequence of warning: unhandled exception > messages into the log. > > The first couple of lines of the log read: > Service not available. Using thread. > Loading database... SMTP Listener on port 25 is proxying mail server> Listener on port 110 is proxying server> User interface url is http://localhost:8880/ > warning: unhandled exception [...] The fact that SpamBayes keeps adding information about the error to the log is addressed in 1.1 (which will be released at some point in the not-too-distant future). However, the thing to do is figure out *why* the error is occurring, so that we can stop that (i.e. address the cause, not the symptom). Does the log not have anything more than "warning: unhandled exception"? If not, could you run sb_tray.exe in a command window until the error occurs and copy the entire error message (the whole message should get printed to the window) to the list? That should tell us exactly what it is that isn't working. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 7 05:52:25 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Mar 7 05:52:32 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Installation.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > The problem I am having is configuring my mail client to use > Spambayes ports and assigning port numbers. Is there no > documentation to describe how to do these things, or is it > assumed that everyone knows how to do this stuff? If you tell us which mail client you are using (and how many mail servers you connect to), we can provide instructions about how to configure it. In the typical case, however, all you need to do is go into the settings for the POP3 server and change it to connect to "localhost" rather than directly to the server. Future versions of SpamBayes will hopefully have both better documentation and a configuration wizard to help out. We are working on both of these, as we can. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From Amir_Katz at bmc.com Mon Mar 7 09:14:37 2005 From: Amir_Katz at bmc.com (Katz, Amir) Date: Mon Mar 7 09:16:02 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Missing obvious spams? Message-ID: I'm using SB plug-in, and today I noticed that it did not detect the obvious spams, such as with "v***ra" or "cia**s" in the subject. Maybe those words are actually new tokens for SB since most spammers try to mask them with various tricks. Which brings a related question - does SB do any de-masking, such as replacing a "|" with an "l" if it's in the middle of the word? and replacing all the accent letters with their equivalent non-accented character? Amir -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050307/33185216/attachment.htm From not-reply at hs.kddi.ne.jp Mon Mar 7 11:20:01 2005 From: not-reply at hs.kddi.ne.jp (KDDI-INFO) Date: Mon Mar 7 11:48:06 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] File was infected with a virus Message-ID: <20050307104804.892E51E4002@bag.python.org> Note: JP stands for Japanese. ALERT!! This e-mail contained one or more virus-infected files and have been rejected. (JP:??????????????????????????????????) The following attachments were infected: (JP:??????????????) file=software.zip,status=deleted,virus-id=36326,virus-name=W32.Netsky.P@mm Thank you, KDDI Corporation -------------- Original message text follows --------------- Subject: Hi Message-ID: <20050307101956.SQNG28384.mail01@j-paris.co.jp> Date: 2005/03/07 From: spambayes@python.org To: hazwu77755@j-paris.co.jp From vze5bgzj at verizon.net Mon Mar 7 14:07:25 2005 From: vze5bgzj at verizon.net (Mike Blonder) Date: Mon Mar 7 13:46:13 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] How to Change the URL for the User Interface In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20050306205940.07b76e30@localhost> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20050306205940.07b76e30@localhost> Message-ID: <200503070807.25529.vze5bgzj@verizon.net> On Sunday 06 March 2005 22:02, you wrote: > It's probably the machine's name at port 8880, however you want to refer to > it. In my case gandalf:8880 should work, or 172.16.20.10:8880. It's not in > the scripts anywhere. With appropriate permissions, you could configure > spambayes or review the messages processed from another machine. > > It's just that localhost always works. I guess by that logic, > 127.0.0.1:8880 should always work too. Doesn't work in a Local Area Network. I need to reconfigure the server for a 192.168.*.* IP Address. Without a configuration script, then SpamBayes is looking at which file: /etc/resolv.conf or /etc/named.conf Anybody know? Thanks Mike > > At 10:06 PM 3/6/2005 -0500, Mike Blonder wrote: > >Hi. > > > >Does anyone know the script where the UI URL is specified? I want to > > change it from "localhost" to the IP address of the spambayse server. > > Thanks for any tips you may have on where to set this. > > > >I checked "bayescustomize.ini" and could not find a setting there. > > > >Mike > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Spambayes@python.org > >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > >Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > > [Temper] Man is a rational animal who always loses his temper when > called upon to act according with the dictates of reason. --Oscar Wilde > --... ...-- -.. . -. ----. --.- --.- -... > tpeters@nospam.mixcom.com (remove "nospam") N9QQB (amateur radio) > "HEY YOU" (loud shouting) WEB ADDRESS http//www.mixweb.com/tpeters > 43? 7' 17.2" N by 88? 6' 28.9" W, Elevation 815', Grid Square EN53wc > WAN/LAN/Telcom Analyst, Tech Writer, MCP, Cisco Certified CCNA From juan at itos.uga.edu Mon Mar 7 21:44:57 2005 From: juan at itos.uga.edu (Juan Machado) Date: Mon Mar 7 21:45:02 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamAssasin and SpamBayes question Message-ID: <3E71C5191EF23346B4356FF822C375663B683B@hermes.itos.uga.edu> Hello, I'm planning to setup an email gateway for my Microsoft Exchange servers. The idea is to set it up with Amavis, this one calling SpamAssasin and ClamAV. This is my question: We've been using SpamBayes (Outlook plug-in) at every user's Windows PC. I don't want to start dropping spam messages (for now). I just need to modify the headers so my current SpamBayes plug-ins installations move the Spam to the Junk mail folder. Is there any header that SpamBayes automatically detect it as Spam ? I don't really want the client checking Bayesian rules if my SpamAssasin gateway already detected it as SPAM. Am I clear ? Thanks a lot. Juan. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050307/5fc8439f/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 8 02:19:17 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 8 02:19:32 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamAssasin and SpamBayes question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > This is my question: We've been using SpamBayes (Outlook > plug-in) at every user's Windows PC. I don't want to start > dropping spam messages (for now). I just need to modify the > headers so my current SpamBayes plug-ins installations move > the Spam to the Junk mail folder. > > Is there any header that SpamBayes automatically detect it > as Spam ? I don't really want the client checking Bayesian > rules if my SpamAssasin gateway already detected it as SPAM. No, you can't do this with SpamBayes (it's a filter, not a mail manager), but you can do it with just plain Outlook. You can setup a rule to move messages to a folder based on a header value, which would do this. As long as SpamBayes is using background processing, then that rule will run before it does, so it won't filter any of those messages (as long as the destination folder isn't being filtered). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 8 02:33:21 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 8 02:33:33 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] How to Change the URL for the User Interface In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Doesn't work in a Local Area Network. I need to reconfigure > the server for a 192.168.*.* IP Address. What exactly are you trying to do? If the IP address of the machine running sb_server was 192.168.0.0, then the URL for the user interface would be . There's nothing in sb_server that cares what the address of the local machine is - it only matters when the user wants to open the interface. OTOH, if you're using Windows (I suspect from the reference to /etc/ that you are not), and using the tray application, then it will try and open pages from . (The reference to localhost is in pop3proxy_tray.py). However, sb_tray is also running the interface, so it's guaranteed to be the local machine. > Without a configuration script, then SpamBayes is looking at > which file: > > /etc/resolv.conf > > or > > /etc/named.conf Looking when? SpamBayes never resolves "localhost" into an IP. IAC, the answer (presumably) is that since SpamBayes uses the Python asyncore library, which uses Python sockets, which are IIRC a fairly thin wrapper over the underlying C library's sockets, it does whatever your C library does. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 8 02:40:45 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 8 02:40:55 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Missing obvious spams? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Which brings a related question - does SB do any de-masking, > such as replacing a "|" with an "l" if it's in the middle of > the word? and replacing all the accent letters with their > equivalent non-accented character? Not at present. (Apart from removing HTML tags, which de-masks things like that). IIRC Skip ran a test that did the latter and found that it did basically nothing for results. I can try and dig up a reference to that thread if you like. I believe the theory is that you can't do this with every word without totally losing any chance of someone reading the thing and buying from you, and so there will always be enough left to give you away (in the headers, for a start). One trouble with de-masking is that there are so many different ways to do it, so you need a never-ending amount of code to try and do the de-mask. If anyone has specific ideas they'd like to try, then let me know and when I have time I'll write up patches. (The wiki is one place you can put these ideas: ). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 8 02:48:29 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 8 02:48:35 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] unbounded "warning: unhandled exception" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Dick H got back to me separately and pointed me at a logged > error that indicated this could be cause by a loss of connectivity. > Given that I had lost connectivity over night (and that Eudora > had continued checking email during that time) this seemed > extremely likely. Yes, if Eudora was trying to check for mail, and the connection failed, then SpamBayes would log that error. If there were a lot of fails, then there would be a lot of logged errors. > This means that I have to wait until 1.1 to go back to using > SpamBayes, since I have many situations of uneven or intermittent > connectivity. (I had connectivity drop 3 times while composing > this reply. I presume that if you could fix this, you would (it's the real problem). The error should only get generated once for each time Eudora tries to check for new mail (if that isn't the case, I would be interested in knowing). So if you set Eudora to only check for mail every (eg) 15 minutes, you'd only get the error reported 4 times an hour, which wouldn't result in a very big log. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 8 03:03:54 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 8 03:04:00 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Installation.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I use Outlook Express 6....is that the mail server? It's the mail client. FAQ 1.5 has a picture that shows which is what, if you're interested: Your mail server(s) are the machines that you connect to for your two POP3 accounts. For example, my mail server for the POP3 account I'm sending this from is pop.ihug.co.nz (hence the tameyer@ihug.co.nz address). > I connect to two separate POP3 accounts and Hotmail through > OE6. I understand that Spambayes can't screen my Hotmail > account, Sadly true, unless you're using Outlook (not Outlook Express) or getting Hotmail mail via POP3 (there are various utilities around that let you do this). > but I'd be thrilled with something that could screen > my POP3 accounts. If OE6 is not a "mail server", then I'm > not sure how to answer your question. You gave me enough information. You need to: In Outlook Express: 1. Select "Accounts" from the "Tools" menu. 2. Double-click the first POP3 account. 3. Click the "Servers" tab. 4. In the "Incoming mail server" section, write down the existing server's name (e.g. mail.example.com), and change it to "localhost" (no quotes). 5. Click OK. 6. Double-click the second POP3 account. 7. Click the "Servers" tab. 8. In the "Incoming mail server" section, write down the existing server's name (e.g. pop.ihug.co.nz), and change it to "localhost" (no quotes). 9. Click the "Advanced" tab. 10. Changing the incoming mail server port from 110 to 111. 11. Click OK. 12. Click Close. In SpamBayes (Right click on the SpamBayes (little envelope) icon in the tray (next to the clock), and choose "Configure...", or go to in your browser): 1. In the top box ("Remote Servers") enter in the two POP3 server names that you wrote down in steps 4 and 8 above, separated by a comma (e.g. "mail.example.com,pop.ihug.co.nz"). 2. In the second box ("SpamBayes Ports") enter in "110,111" (no quotes). (Because Outlook Express is so limited, you also have to get SpamBayes to add the classification to the Subject (or To: list) and get Outlook Express to filter on that.) 3. About halfway down the page there are options for "Notate To" and "Notate Subject". Tick the "unsure" and "spam" boxes for "Notate Subject". 4. Save the configuration changes (bottom of the page). Incoming spam/unsure mail will now have "spam," or "unsure," added to the subject. To get Outlook Express to filter on these: 1. From the "Tools" menu, choose "Message Rules", then "Mail". 2. Click "New" 3. Tick the "Where the subject contains specific words" box at the top. 4. Tick the "Move to the specified folder" box in the middle. 5. Click the blue "contains specific words" in the bottom, and enter "spam," (with the comma, without the quotes). 6. Click the blue "specified" in the bottom and choose the folder that you want spam to be moved to. 7. Give the rule a name (e.g. "SpamBayes spam") 8. Click OK. 9. Repeat steps 2-8, but for unsure mail. 10. Click OK. And you should be all done. (We are working on making this a much simpler process. And with other mail clients (OE is very limited) is already is...) =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 8 03:46:34 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 8 03:46:40 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] unbounded "warning: unhandled exception" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > It seems likely that the error is generated more than once > for each attempt to check mail. > Eudora is configured to check mail every 5 minutes. Can anyone else that has experienced this problem verify this? If I unplug my network cable (to simulate a loss of connection), then I get one error message ("Can't connect to pop.ihug.co.nz:110: (7, 'getaddrinfo failed')") every time Eudora (6.0) tries to check for mail (manually, or via the timer). I tried pulling the plug in the midst of downloading messages, and that didn't change the result. There seem to be two separate cases of this. One has the "getaddrinfo failed" error that I can duplicate, and the other has the "unhandled exception" error. I don't know what it is that causes that - can anyone generate that error repeatedly? Is it just by removing the network connection? Are you using SpamBayes with all defaults in a normal sort of setup, without other things chained in the way, and so forth? > I cleared out 40 gigabytes of log, and had a 4 gigabyte log > inside of 4 hours (it may have been even faster.) That's writing this error nearly 10,000 times per second (10**9/60/60/len("warning: unhandled exception\n")). Whatever is happening, it's happening pretty quickly. > I notice that when I don't have network connectivity, it > takes a long time for Eudora to fail when checking email. With and without SpamBayes? > My guess is that something about the current interaction is > not making the problem clear to Eudora, and therefore resulting > in a LOT of interactions, each of which produce an error line. Errors simply pass through SpamBayes, so it'll get whatever the mail server is sending. As above, if anyone can give me steps to generate an "unhandled exception" error, then I'll happily look into this. For the moment, I can't think of anything that SpamBayes would do that would cause 10,000 unhandled exceptions per second. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 8 03:54:39 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 8 03:54:44 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Sharing databases between outlook plugin and proxy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > However, I'm using this at work with an exchange server, > and have recently started using Mozilla Thunderbird on the > same machine for my personal email using POP3 and SMTP, so > I've installed the proxy as well. > The default setup of the proxy has a different database name > (hammie.db), and message information file name > (spambayes.messageinfo.db) than the outlook plugin > (default_bayes_database.db and default_message_database.db), > and they both reside in different folders. > My question is, can the proxy and outlook plugin share the same > databases and run concurrently? With 1.0.x and 1.1 the (token count) databases (hammie.db, default_bayes_database.db) are in the same format, and can be shared or swapped for each other. With 1.0.x the message info databases (spambayes.messageinfo.db, default_message_database.db) use very different formats, and cannot be shared (they can be in the forthcoming 1.1). However, there's very little value in sharing the message info databases anyway, since they track individual messages in the mailer, which isn't relevant when there are multiple mailers involved. > The only way I can see to do this is to change my > .\application data\spambayes\outlook.ini to set the data > directory to the .\application Data\SpamBayes\Proxy folder, > and change the database names in the proxy interface to the > outlook plugin names. Or you can just change the database names in the proxy interface to full paths, e.g. 'C:\Documents and Settings\{username}\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db' instead of simply 'hammie.db' ('..\default_bayes_database.db' would probably also work, although I haven't checked). > Are these databases different for a reason, or can I go ahead and do this? You can share the token database, but you do not want to be writing to it from two places at the same place (a sure road to a corrupted database). If you do all your training from Outlook *or* sb_server (but not both) then you should be ok, I think (although the other application won't have the updated database until it is restarted). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From BCWeaver at AboutMontana.net Tue Mar 8 04:28:04 2005 From: BCWeaver at AboutMontana.net (Bob Weaver) Date: Tue Mar 8 04:28:03 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Toolbar Items Failing to Work Message-ID: <000001c5238e$d74ea1b0$6e01a8c0@weaverdell> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: spambayes1.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 2182 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050307/b24d454f/spambayes1-0001.obj From joel at stevecrocker.com Tue Mar 8 05:02:36 2005 From: joel at stevecrocker.com (Joel M. Halpern) Date: Tue Mar 8 05:02:45 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] unbounded "warning: unhandled exception" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050307230055.02c4a7e0@mail.stevecrocker.com> The setup is quite simple, with Eudora pointing at SpamBayes, and SpamBayes pointing at my external mail server. The long time to detect failure seems for Eudora to occur with and without SpamBayes, so I don't think SpamBayes is changing the indication, just that the interaction seems to be producing a vast rate of errors. This is consistent with the other error reports of CPU being pegged. Yours, Joel At 09:46 PM 3/7/2005, Tony Meyer wrote: > > It seems likely that the error is generated more than once > > for each attempt to check mail. > > Eudora is configured to check mail every 5 minutes. > >Can anyone else that has experienced this problem verify this? If I unplug >my network cable (to simulate a loss of connection), then I get one error >message ("Can't connect to pop.ihug.co.nz:110: (7, 'getaddrinfo failed')") >every time Eudora (6.0) tries to check for mail (manually, or via the >timer). I tried pulling the plug in the midst of downloading messages, and >that didn't change the result. > >There seem to be two separate cases of this. One has the "getaddrinfo >failed" error that I can duplicate, and the other has the "unhandled >exception" error. I don't know what it is that causes that - can anyone >generate that error repeatedly? Is it just by removing the network >connection? > >Are you using SpamBayes with all defaults in a normal sort of setup, without >other things chained in the way, and so forth? > > > I cleared out 40 gigabytes of log, and had a 4 gigabyte log > > inside of 4 hours (it may have been even faster.) > >That's writing this error nearly 10,000 times per second >(10**9/60/60/len("warning: unhandled exception\n")). Whatever is happening, >it's happening pretty quickly. > > > I notice that when I don't have network connectivity, it > > takes a long time for Eudora to fail when checking email. > >With and without SpamBayes? > > > My guess is that something about the current interaction is > > not making the problem clear to Eudora, and therefore resulting > > in a LOT of interactions, each of which produce an error line. > >Errors simply pass through SpamBayes, so it'll get whatever the mail server >is sending. > >As above, if anyone can give me steps to generate an "unhandled exception" >error, then I'll happily look into this. For the moment, I can't think of >anything that SpamBayes would do that would cause 10,000 unhandled >exceptions per second. > >=Tony.Meyer > >-- >Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies >(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. >http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From felipeyesther at terra.es Tue Mar 8 07:30:26 2005 From: felipeyesther at terra.es (Felipe Romero) Date: Tue Mar 8 07:30:29 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] three kind of messages, three actions to be taken Message-ID: <20050308063028.AB2E81E4002@bag.python.org> As there are three kind of messages, there should be three actions to take over three kind of folders (in one click) spam messages -> train as spam and empty spam folder (definitely if possible) ham (just to read once) -> train as ham and empty ham folder (definitely if possible) ham (to be archived) -> train as ham and [optionally: do nothing//move to folder] And also for the messages... False negative --> Train as spam and remove forever False positive (1) --> Train as ham and remove forever False positive (2) --> Train as ham and [do nothing//move to folder] From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Tue Mar 8 13:36:14 2005 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Tue Mar 8 13:36:18 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamAssasin and SpamBayes question Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5003B6735B@SPIKE.city> I think your best bet would be to define an Outlook rule to dump all messages displaying the marker put there by your server-side spam filters. That way you're not trying to make Spambayes do something it wasn't designed to do (i.e., use a selection criterion other than its standard filtering algorithm). As is often mentioned in this forum, Spambayes and Outlook rules are both asynchronous and don't play very well together. But in this case you don't care, since Spambayes will soon learn to treat the marker as a strong spam clue, and the effect is the same, whether it's Outlook or Spambayes that rejects a given message. This question arose at least once before, and I think someone offered this same advice. Bob -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of Juan Machado Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 3:45 PM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] SpamAssasin and SpamBayes question Importance: High Hello, I'm planning to setup an email gateway for my Microsoft Exchange servers. The idea is to set it up with Amavis, this one calling SpamAssasin and ClamAV. This is my question: We've been using SpamBayes (Outlook plug-in) at every user's Windows PC. I don't want to start dropping spam messages (for now). I just need to modify the headers so my current SpamBayes plug-ins installations move the Spam to the Junk mail folder. Is there any header that SpamBayes automatically detect it as Spam ? I don't really want the client checking Bayesian rules if my SpamAssasin gateway already detected it as SPAM. Am I clear ? Thanks a lot. Juan. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050308/cc361f19/attachment.htm From rodger at capstraw.com Tue Mar 8 16:58:49 2005 From: rodger at capstraw.com (Rodger Capstraw) Date: Tue Mar 8 16:58:55 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] great experience Message-ID: I've been using the program for 3 weeks now and am at 95%+ spam filtered out. I started at 85% immediately and got to 90% in a week. This is over 2000 spam mails filtered and --not one false positive!! Great!! From bmandakis at triad.rr.com Tue Mar 8 19:01:39 2005 From: bmandakis at triad.rr.com (Bill Mandakis) Date: Tue Mar 8 19:32:35 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem Message-ID: <422DE883.2030801@triad.rr.com> I already sent an email a week ago. I have not received any info back. About a month ago, the Spambayes just stopped dead checking my email. Why? It was working very well in the "training". All of a sudden, it stopped any training. I am still receiving some spam. So, I should be still having "training" to do. Bill Mandakis bmandakis@triad.rr.com (336)993-7220 From ZFortna at cxtec.com Tue Mar 8 22:05:39 2005 From: ZFortna at cxtec.com (Zachary Fortna) Date: Tue Mar 8 22:05:47 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes outlook plugin Message-ID: <25AC2CBEEFA22F49BC36DED1250EB6A8045F7120@cxmailx.ad.cxtec.com> I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this or not, but I figured it was worth a shot. Does anyone know how to protect the Junk Mail and Junk Mail Suspect folders the spambayes users from being deleted by a user. Our users tend to delete the folder itself instead of all the messages inside. Any help would be greatly appriciated. Zachary Fortna, DAD Sr. Technical Specialist CXtec 315.476.3000, ext 2570 fax: 315.455.1800 CXtec (formerly CABLExpress Technologies) is a DBA of Cablexpress Corporation. Visit us online at www.cxtec.com . -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050308/6fda6faa/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 8 23:46:26 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 8 23:46:40 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes outlook plugin In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this or not, > but I figured it was worth a shot. This is as good a place as any. Since this could be phrased as a specifically Outlook question ("how can I protect a folder so that it can't be deleted), you could ask in some sort of Outlook forum, but I'm not sure that you'd get any more help. > Does anyone know how to protect the Junk Mail and Junk Mail > Suspect folders the spambayes users from being deleted by a user. > Our users tend to delete the folder itself instead of all the > messages inside. As far as I know, this is not possible, sorry. (Well, without us adding a lot of code to SpamBayes to monitor the Deleted Items folder and prevent it). If your users are using Outlook 2003, then you can set the spam folder to be Outlook's Junk folder, and I believe that Outlook will prevent you from deleting that (I don't have 2003, so can't check, but would assume so). That doesn't help with the unsure folder, though. Education is really the key, here. (Maybe if you setup the spam folder, using AutoArchive, to automatically delete its contents after x days, that would help? Then the users wouldn't have to worry about deleting, as long as they continue to correct any mistakes). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 8 23:52:03 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 8 23:52:10 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] three kind of messages, three actions to be taken In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > As there are three kind of messages, there should be three > actions to take over three kind of folders (in one click) [...] What are the three kinds of messages? From the SpamBayes point of view, these would be ham, unsure, and spam. However, your message seems to indicate that you'd say that it was ham-to-discard, ham-to-keep, and spam. SpamBayes doesn't get involved in organising mail apart from classifying as one of ham/unsure/spam. Whether ham or spam is kept, archived, or deleted is completely up to the user. Outlook does have a good auto-archive facility to assist with this. I also don't understand what you mean by "three actions to take over three kind of folders". Do you mean that there should be three buttons rather than the existing "Delete as Spam" and "Recover from Spam"? Or do you mean that there should be three sets of actions in the Filtering tab/process. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From steve at holdenweb.com Wed Mar 9 00:17:52 2005 From: steve at holdenweb.com (Steve Holden) Date: Wed Mar 9 00:17:57 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] sb_tray eating time and space with unhandled exceptions Message-ID: <422E32A0.4090102@holdenweb.com> I'm using v 1.03. I have recently migrated to Windows XP, and I copied the existing database from my previous (Windows 200) computer. I have started to see behavior where the sb_tray applet easts up CPU time and generates voluminous log files. Here's a listing of the relevant files: -rwx------+ 1 sholden None 5485077994 Mar 8 18:01 SpamBayesServer1.log -rwx------+ 1 sholden None 156 Mar 8 13:01 SpamBayesServer2.log -rwx------+ 1 sholden None 536819166 Mar 8 12:30 SpamBayesServer3.log -rwx------+ 1 sholden None 9474516050 Mar 8 11:45 SpamBayesServer4.log When I look at the large files I find that they have the startup data followed only by *large* numbers of somewhat uninformative lines that read warning: unhandled exception Do more recent releases provide more information about what these unhandled exceptions are, and can anyone shed any light an what might be happening here? Email replies appreciated, as I'm a bit too busy with PyCon to track the list. regards Steve -- Steve Holden +1 703 861 4237 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC http://www.holdenweb.com/ Python Web Programming http://pydish.holdenweb.com/ From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Mar 9 00:43:51 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Mar 9 00:44:02 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] sb_tray eating time and space with unhandled exceptions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I have started to see behavior where the sb_tray applet easts up CPU > time and generates voluminous log files. The bug is starting to really annoy me. Maybe there will be a 1.0.4 after all (it might be quicker to release that than to answer all the mail about the problem...) [...] > When I look at the large files I find that they have the startup data > followed only by *large* numbers of somewhat uninformative > lines that read > > warning: unhandled exception > > Do more recent releases provide more information about what these > unhandled exceptions are, and can anyone shed any light an > what might be happening here? Unfortunately there is no more recent release. If you run from CVS Head (which will be 1.1a1 in the not-too-distant future) then they should only get written to the log once per hour. That helps the effect, but doesn't address the cause, though. I believe that the unhandled exception message comes from asyncore. If I'm following things correctly, select.select() is saying there was a problem with a socket. Unfortunately, asyncore doesn't give any more information than "warning: unhandled exception". Nor does it look straightforward to try and collect such information (it looks like a modified/overridden asyncore.poll() is required). Since this didn't come up before 1.0.3 (AFAIK) maybe this is something to do with using Python 2.4, since that's the main change between 1.0.1 and 1.0.3 (and 2.4 did include changes to asyncore). If you have 2.3 handy and can run from source, that may fix the problem. (Or you can use 1.0.1). I don't really have much time to look into this until next week (and I'd hoped to use that time to get 1.1a1 out). I need to either find out how to replicate this problem (what is it that causes the first error?) or create a special release that includes a lot more debugging information, and convince someone to run it. I might manage to try the latter tomorrow. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Mar 9 00:44:56 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Mar 9 00:45:02 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I already sent an email a week ago. I have not received any > info back. >From the same email address? To spambayes@python.org? AFAICT I never received such an email, and it's not in the archives for the list, so it doesn't appear to have made it through. Did you get the auto-reply? > About a month ago, the Spambayes just stopped dead checking my email. > Why? It was working very well in the "training". All of a sudden, it > stopped any training. I am still receiving some spam. So, I should be > still having "training" to do. Which SpamBayes application are you using? Sb_server? Sb_imapfilter? The Outlook plug-in? What mail client are you using? Outlook Express, Eudora, Thunderbird, Outlook? Is the problem with checking (i.e. filtering/classifying) your mail, or with training SpamBayes, or with both? Your message says one, then the other. What happens when you try to classify/train? Do you get an error message? Do your log files have any error messages in them? The logs are in the Windows temp directory (or, if you are not using Windows, are output to stdout/stderr). The Troubleshooting Guide explains where to find them. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From steve at holdenweb.com Wed Mar 9 01:14:16 2005 From: steve at holdenweb.com (Steve Holden) Date: Wed Mar 9 01:14:22 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] sb_tray eating time and space with unhandled exceptions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <422E3FD8.8020708@holdenweb.com> Tony Meyer wrote: >>I have started to see behavior where the sb_tray applet easts up CPU >>time and generates voluminous log files. > > > The bug is starting to really annoy me. Maybe there will be a 1.0.4 after > all (it might be quicker to release that than to answer all the mail about > the problem...) > > [...] > >>When I look at the large files I find that they have the startup data >>followed only by *large* numbers of somewhat uninformative >>lines that read >> >>warning: unhandled exception >> >>Do more recent releases provide more information about what these >>unhandled exceptions are, and can anyone shed any light an >>what might be happening here? > > > Unfortunately there is no more recent release. If you run from CVS Head > (which will be 1.1a1 in the not-too-distant future) then they should only > get written to the log once per hour. That helps the effect, but doesn't > address the cause, though. > > I believe that the unhandled exception message comes from asyncore. If I'm > following things correctly, select.select() is saying there was a problem > with a socket. Unfortunately, asyncore doesn't give any more information > than "warning: unhandled exception". Nor does it look straightforward to > try and collect such information (it looks like a modified/overridden > asyncore.poll() is required). > > Since this didn't come up before 1.0.3 (AFAIK) maybe this is something to do > with using Python 2.4, since that's the main change between 1.0.1 and 1.0.3 > (and 2.4 did include changes to asyncore). If you have 2.3 handy and can > run from source, that may fix the problem. (Or you can use 1.0.1). > > I don't really have much time to look into this until next week (and I'd > hoped to use that time to get 1.1a1 out). I need to either find out how to > replicate this problem (what is it that causes the first error?) or create a > special release that includes a lot more debugging information, and convince > someone to run it. I might manage to try the latter tomorrow. > Sorry, Tony, this must be a pain for you. I'm quite happy to wait until you have time to address the issue yourself - forward progress is generally better than patching up, and you have suggested useful workarounds. If it gets too troublesome then I'll drop back to 1.0.1. If I get chance to to some poking around with asyncore I'll let you know of any useful results. I do indeed see the "unhandled ..." messages in asyncore.py - not terribly helpful, is it? regards Steve -- Steve Holden +1 703 861 4237 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC http://www.holdenweb.com/ Python Web Programming http://pydish.holdenweb.com/ From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Mar 9 02:38:02 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Mar 9 02:53:38 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] sb_tray eating time and space with unhandled exceptions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Sorry, Tony, this must be a pain for you. Not your fault. This is a result of changing to Python 2.4 (2.3's asynchat has no calls to handle_expt(), so it's not possible to have this happen). So it's my fault for doing so - I should have stuck with 2.3 for 1.0.x and only moved to 2.4 for 1.1.x (the 1.0.2 fiasco would have been avoided, too). If only the email package hadn't improved so much from 2.3 to 2.4... > I'm quite happy to wait until you have time to address the issue > yourself - forward progress is generally better than patching up, and > you have suggested useful workarounds. [...] I wouldn't want to be responsible for any trouble with Pycon , so I've looked into it now. Comparing 2.3 and 2.3's asyncore, 2.4 passes all the read/write sockets to select.select(), which 2.3 didn't, and this is where the problem is. MSDN tells me that select() will indicate a problem when a connect call fails. And that was enough for me to figure out how to duplicate it. If I configure my SpamBayes to connect to my POP3 server by IP address rather than domain name, then I get this error when I don't have network access. (If I use the domain name, then the lookup fails and I get a "getaddrinfo failed" error, which is nicely handled, instead.) Looking deeper: because asyncore.dispatcher creates non-blocking sockets, then the connect() call's call to socket.connect_ex() will normally (according to MSDN, again) return EWOULDBLOCK, which asyncore.dispather considers good enough to keep going with. However, that means that if the connect actually fails, then it's not until select.select() is called that the error occurs. If that happens, then the error is logged, and asyncore.loop() tries to poll again, and the error occurs again. loop() loops fast enough to get about 10,000 attempts per second, it seems :/ For SpamBayes, the solution is to set the socket to blocking while doing the connect, so that errors arise if necessary, and then set it to nonblocking after a successful connect. This fix seems to work for me, and I'll check it in. So then, there are two questions: (1) given that this problem will occur any time someone tries to make a connection when it will fail, is a 1.0.4 release called for, and (2) is this really what asyncore wants to be doing. I think I'll ask (2) on python-list and see what the response is. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Mar 9 03:06:41 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Mar 9 03:11:48 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] unbounded "warning: unhandled exception" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [snip] Ok, I've tracked this down. The reason for this occurring is complex (an explanation is in a message I just posted, if anyone is interested), but basically this problem will occur if: (1) You are using Python 2.4 (1.0.3 is built with Python 2.4) (2) A connection to the mail server cannot be established and (3) The DNS lookup succeeds It will only take one fail (unfortunately) to enter into a continual loop with the (very unhelpful) asyncore "warning: unhandled exception" message being printed out. The fix I checked in for the original report of large logs (which did not have #3, which results in the "getaddrinfo failed" error, which is only printed once per attempt), would not fix this, as the error never gets from asyncore to SpamBayes. I've checked in a fix that works for me simulating these conditions, so I'm pretty confident it will work for others as well. So the solution is to: (1) Use Python 2.3 (1.0.1 or run from source) (2) Use 1.1 when it is released (or CVS head) optionally with Python 2.4 Or (3) Convince me to do a 1.0.4 release with either this fix or built with Python 2.3, and use that. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From furgeson at ezeeweb.com Wed Mar 9 05:35:50 2005 From: furgeson at ezeeweb.com (BJ Furgeson) Date: Wed Mar 9 05:36:13 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Can't get Spambayes to show on my Outlook toolbar. Message-ID: <001201c52461$7bfe53e0$6501a8c0@FURGESON> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Bob -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of Zachary Fortna Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 4:06 PM To: 'spambayes@python.org' Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes outlook plugin I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this or not, but I figured it was worth a shot. Does anyone know how to protect the Junk Mail and Junk Mail Suspect folders the spambayes users from being deleted by a user. Our users tend to delete the folder itself instead of all the messages inside. Any help would be greatly appriciated. Zachary Fortna, DAD Sr. Technical Specialist CXtec 315.476.3000, ext 2570 fax: 315.455.1800 CXtec (formerly CABLExpress Technologies) is a DBA of Cablexpress Corporation. Visit us online at www.cxtec.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Date: Wed Mar 9 15:54:31 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Message-ID: <98C12BCABB820D42986C68F03EBC0A81056FEFB6@usres-exch1.na.uis.unisys.com> I had SpamBayes installed and inadvertently uninstalled it. The uninstall was not completely successful, however, and when I went to reinstall it, the reinstall seemed to complete but it would not work. Is there a more thorough uninstall procedure? I have Windows 2000 Professional version 5.0.2195 SP4. Sygate security is installed. Benjamin C. Locke, CPCM Unisys Imagine it. Done. Senior Contracts Manager Health Information Management 11720 Plaza America Drive, Tower III Reston, VA 20190-4757 Phone: 703-439-5270 Fax: 703-439-3264 Benjamin.Locke@Unisys.com This Communication MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL AND/OR OTHERWISE PROPRIETARY MATERIAL AND IS THUS FOR USE ONLY BY THE INTENDED RECIPIENT. 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I loaded the program from here: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/spambayes/spambayes-1.0.3.exe?download This is the log file: Traceback (most recent call last): File "addin.py", line 1546, in ? File "win32com\server\register.pyc", line 483, in UseCommandLine File "win32com\server\register.pyc", line 413, in RegisterClasses File "win32com\server\register.pyc", line 181, in RegisterServer File "win32com\server\register.pyc", line 32, in _set_string pywintypes.error: (5, 'RegSetValue', 'Access is denied.') After reading the troubleshooting guide I'm still having trouble getting the program to load. Can anyone help me out? This program is new to me but it works well on my PC. Would really like to get it working for our Executive Secretary. Are there other rights I must adjust in some other location? I'm stuck! 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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Mar 10 01:08:20 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Mar 10 01:08:35 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes outlook plugin In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > If you're using Exchange, there's no obvious reason why > you couldn't make your spam folders be public folders, > which can have permissions assigned to them. (I haven't > tried it, but the public folders do show up in the Spambayes > browse lists.) If you do try this, I would be interested to know if it works. There is an open bug report (or two, maybe?) that describe problems with filtering public folders. As Bob said, the folders do show up in the lists, and unfortunately that's as far as I can test, because I don't have the ability to create a public folder to pay around with. It may be that filtering public folders just doesn't work. It might also be that it's a simple fix to get them to. I'm just not sure. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Mar 10 01:14:55 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Mar 10 01:15:09 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Doesn't load In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I've been trying to install SpamBayes for some executive > users that do not have Admin rights to their PC's. > After creating the SpamBayes folder under Program Files I > gave all users full access to that folder. > Everything seemed to run/load without errors but the SpamBayes is not > enabled in Outlook. [...] > This is the log file: [...] > pywintypes.error: (5, 'RegSetValue', 'Access is denied.') The rights that are missing are rights to write to non-user parts of the registry, to tell Outlook about the plug-in. The simple solution is to log in as administrator, install for all users (as in the troubleshooting guide), and then it should be there for the regular user. Alternatively, set the user's access to administrator temporarily, do the install, then restore the access (it's only required for install). There has been fairly recent discussion about whether these rights should be required or not - the list archive has details (the thread subject is "Local admin rights") if you are interested. It's not clear yet what the outcome will be... =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Mar 10 01:18:05 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Mar 10 01:18:27 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I had SpamBayes installed and inadvertently uninstalled it. > The uninstall was not completely successful, however, In what way was it unsuccessful? The toolbar was still there? That's a known bug. Configuration and training data still there? That's a design feature. Everything else should work fine. > and when I went to reinstall it, the reinstall seemed to > complete but it would not work. What would not work? The install process? Filtering? Training? What happens, exactly? Are there error messages, and if so, what are they? What does the log have? > Is there a more thorough uninstall procedure? The thorough procedure is to use the Add/Remove Programs control panel to remove the plug-in (with Outlook closed, presumably). Then, in Outlook, manually delete the (dead) SpamBayes toolbar. Then, if you want to, you can remove the data directory that has configuration and training data. That's it. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Mar 10 01:47:45 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Mar 10 01:47:56 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] three kind of messages, three actions to be taken In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [Tony Meyer] >> However, your message seems to indicate that you'd say >> that it was ham-to-discard, ham-to-keep, and spam. [Felipe Romero] > That's what I say. I do not refer to the spambayes point of > view, but the receiver's point of view. There are problems with this, in that each receiver will have a different point of view. For example, I have not-that-important ham that is archived in once place, important-ham that is archived somewhere else, current-ham that hasn't been dealt with yet, but will eventually turn into one of the other types, and spam-to-archive. Everyone will have something slightly different. (Some programs, for example POPFile, will let you do n-way classification, which you might be able to use to get the effect that you're after). >> SpamBayes doesn't get involved in organising mail apart from >> classifying as one of ham/unsure/spam. > > Why not? I think it's easy and very helpful. > Why do not enhance the program? Three of the reasons are: 1. There is a school of thought that each program should do one thing, and do it as well as possible. The job of SpamBayes is to make spam less of a problem by identifying it, as possible. That's the focus. A separate program should look after general mail management. 2. Outlook does a fairly reasonable job as a mail manager (compare it to Outlook Express!), and most of what people want to accomplish can be done with existing Outlook functionality. There's no point reinventing the wheel. 3. This is a project where everything is done by volunteers in their own time. In order for something to get done, it either needs to be something the developer wants ('scratching their own itch'), or something that a developer is willing to do for some other reason (e.g. removing bugs to reduce people complaining about them, adding unit tests to make future development more reliable). None of the existing developers (AFAIK) want this functionality themselves, so they'd have to be talked into it. It's also a large amount of work, which counts against it. The latter is probably the main reason. Of course, since this is open-source, there's nothing stopping anyone taking up the code and creating a patch that does exactly this. This feature request is asking for roughly the same thing: [ 844796 ] SpamBayes as mail manager? >> I also don't understand what you mean by "three actions to >> take over three kind of folders". Do you mean that there should be three >> buttons rather than the existing "Delete as Spam" and >> "Recover from Spam"? >> Or do you mean that there should be three sets of actions in the >> Filtering tab/process. > > Basically, yes: Delete as spam, recover from spam, and "train > as ham and delete" But the esential idea is: when you press > "delete as spam" an also with "the train button", > spam message should be removed after the training. Having "Delete as Spam" actually delete the message (or move it to the Deleted Items folder) is covered in this feature request: [ 973376 ] Make "Delete as Spam" *really* Delete the email > Another idea is to keep two buttons: Delete as spam, recover > from spam, and later, in the training action, both the "spam" > and "d-ham" folder are deleted. "Unsure" folder: untouched > and untrained and a the rest of the ham folders are trained > but not deleted. I don't think that we would ever want to have code that would delete mail that the user has marked as ham. It's asking for too many problems. [...] > Thank you so much for your work Tony, [...] > (sorry for my english) You're welcome, and no worries. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Mar 10 02:40:18 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Mar 10 02:40:47 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Can't get Spambayes to show on my Outlook toolbar. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [...] > Under tools/options/other/advanced/ com-addins I see > spambayes is available. When I check it, click on OK then > back out to look at view/toolbars/customize I still do not > have Spambayes as an option. Check to see if Outlook has disabled the plug-in. Help->About Microsoft Outlook->Disabled Items. (Why are there two places to disable/reenable a plug-in? Ask Microsoft.) =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Mar 10 02:44:27 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Mar 10 02:44:57 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Toolbar Items Failing to Work In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [log] > bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30978, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: > Fatal error, run database recovery -- PANIC: Invalid argument') [...] > Any suggestions to correct the problem would be much > appreciated (i.e. how to run a database recovery .) Unfortunately the only way to get past this is to retrain from scratch. Doing this via the Manager dialog (tick the "rebuild entire database" box) should work, or you can manually delete the default_bayes_database.db file. This sort of database corruption is extremely rare (I think I've seen only one case of the "PANIC: Invalid argument" problem reported before). This means you shouldn't ever see it again - if it does end up happening again, or if you can somehow cause it to happen, we'd be very interested to know how. The recovery utility referred to in the error doesn't apply to the way in which SpamBayes uses the bsddb database library, unfortunately. (And bsddb generates the error message). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Thu Mar 10 15:36:53 2005 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Thu Mar 10 15:36:57 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: Spambayes outlook plugin Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5022C38F@SPIKE.city> In my experience the spam folders themselves seldom, if ever, get filtered. So the fact that you can't filter a public folder may not be a show stopper. Bob > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 7:08 PM > To: Coe, Bob; 'Zachary Fortna' > Cc: spambayes@python.org > Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Spambayes outlook plugin > > > > If you're using Exchange, there's no obvious reason why > > you couldn't make your spam folders be public folders, > > which can have permissions assigned to them. (I haven't > > tried it, but the public folders do show up in the Spambayes > > browse lists.) > > If you do try this, I would be interested to know if it works. There is an > open bug report (or two, maybe?) that describe problems with filtering > public folders. As Bob said, the folders do show up in the lists, and > unfortunately that's as far as I can test, because I don't have the ability > to create a public folder to pay around with. It may be that filtering > public folders just doesn't work. It might also be that it's a simple fix > to get them to. I'm just not sure. > > =Tony.Meyer From janet at mrchicago.com Thu Mar 10 18:15:56 2005 From: janet at mrchicago.com (Janet Angela) Date: Thu Mar 10 19:21:15 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] help Message-ID: I am not able to delete messages as spam if they are not automatically filtered as spam Janet Angela Executive Search MR Chicago Worldwide 847-550-1300 ext. 46 janet@mrchicago.com www.mrchicago.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From Jutkins1049 at aol.com Fri Mar 11 00:29:42 2005 From: Jutkins1049 at aol.com (Jutkins1049@aol.com) Date: Fri Mar 11 00:29:51 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] retrieving a deleted spam e-mail Message-ID: <7b.40c2ddfa.2f623266@aol.com> How do I retrieve a deleted spam mail? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050310/f5f1aadb/attachment.htm From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Mar 11 01:31:41 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Mar 11 01:31:55 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Huge Log File - Over 13GB in Size In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > We recently installed Spam Bayes on our network and > everything appeared to be ok until one of our users ran out > of disk space , and we discovered a SpamBayes log file in > excess of 13GB ! > > Our Questions: > > Why is this happening ? If you try to connect to the mail server and it is unavailable, and you are using the 1.0.3 binary or Python 2.4 with source, and the DNS lookup succeeds even though the connection fails, then an error message is written to the log until SpamBayes is restarted or reconfigured. (This is a bug with Python, IMO). > How can we shut off the log file ? You cannot. (With the binary. If you run from source you can do whatever you like). > How can we limit, and or control the maximum size of the log file ? You cannot. (With the binary. If you run from source you can do whatever you like). A solution for this has been checked in, so will appear in the next release. For the moment, if you cannot guarantee that the mail client will only check for mail when the server is reachable, then you will need to either use 1.0.1 or run 1.0.3 from source with Python 2.3, or run CVS head with Python 2.2/2.3/2.4. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Mar 11 01:35:44 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Mar 11 01:35:53 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I am not able to delete messages as spam if they are > not automatically filtered as spam What happens if you try? Do you get an error? If so, what is it? Does your log file (see the Troubleshooting guide) have any errors in it? =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Mar 11 01:36:19 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Mar 11 01:38:10 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] retrieving a deleted spam e-mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > How do I retrieve a deleted spam mail? Go to the spam folder, select the message that was incorrectly classified and click the "Recover from spam" button. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Mar 11 02:12:08 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Mar 11 02:12:14 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Huge Log File - Over 13GB in Size In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > While I do believe in the product, and the development > efforts unfortunately this situation will force us to pull > SpamBayes off of the Network. There's no reason that you can't just use 1.0.1 instead of 1.0.3. It definitely does not have this problem (it was introduced in 1.0.2). > Please keep us posted on the product ! If you subscribe to the spambayes-announce list, you'll get a single email each time a new release is made (it's only for announcements, so there's no other mail. Something like one message every two months). It's definitely the easiest way to keep up-to-date. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Mar 11 04:00:43 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Mar 11 04:00:51 2005 Subject: [SpamBayes] SpamBayes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I tried a new download and install just now, got the > Spambayes welcome screen, and rebooted the system. > > After restart, I opened Outlook and no spambayes process > happened, and no toolbar for spambayes was listed under > View\toolbars). Maybe Outlook has the plug-in listed as disabled. Help->About Microsoft Outlook->Disabled Items. If not that, I'm not sure what it might be. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From nmarkey at earthlink.net Fri Mar 11 16:35:03 2005 From: nmarkey at earthlink.net (Nicky Markey) Date: Fri Mar 11 16:36:54 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Help! Message-ID: <002d01c5264f$ee33c810$6400a8c0@DESKTOP> Hi our Spambayes is placing messages in the junk file when they are not always junk. I cannot see the file to review these messages. How can I view the contents of the junk file? Thanks for the help. Nicky Markey 520-749-1561 3852 N. Gunnison Drive Tucson AZ 85749 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050311/d99e751b/attachment.html From rmalayter at bai.org Fri Mar 11 20:59:10 2005 From: rmalayter at bai.org (Ryan Malayter) Date: Fri Mar 11 20:59:15 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes for server Message-ID: <792DE28E91F6EA42B4663AE761C41C2A03CF6131@cliff.bai.org> There is no easy way to get SpamBayes integrated directly with Exchange Server. We use iHateSpam Server edition on our Exchange servers, and it works fine and it's integration is great. To classify messages, users simply move messages to selected folders that are automatically created for them. No client-side install is needed, although one is available. You might want to check out http://assp.sourcefourge.net for a free Bayesian filter that is designed to work server-side. Set-up won't be straingforward, and training is not simple for users.... they have to forward mail to a specific address to train. Regards, Ryan ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Shirley Lai Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 11:51 AM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes for server Hi, I work in an environment that has a server that holds our e-mails (I believe it's Exchange) then sends it out to the individual computers. However, we have some people who use Macs. Also, I'd like to avoid having to install SpamBayes on all 15 computers. Can the program be installed on the server side? Thanks, Shirley From admin at donateonline.info Sat Mar 12 03:30:35 2005 From: admin at donateonline.info (Help) Date: Sat Mar 12 03:30:37 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Children in crisis Message-ID: <20050312023035.7EEC51E4005@bag.python.org> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Outlook Express (OE) is NOT Outlook and the plug-in will NOT work with OE. 2. You need to configure your Outlook Express to read the mail from the SpamBayes proxy instead of directly from your internet service provider's POP server. A good starting point would be the FAQ, specifically questions 1.5 and 2.1 http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html Amir _____ From: vojt?ch rozs?val [mailto:beatmasterv@volny.cz] Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 15:28 To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) hi I installed spambayes-1.0.3.exe, on my winXP and it does not seem to do anything at all :o( I am using outlook express. thanx for answer vojta -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Box 292 Durham, New Hampshire 03824 Voice: 603-659-3169 Fax: 603-659-2248 Email: sole@soleAssociates.com URL: http://www.soleAssociates.com PGP: http://wwwkeys.ch.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get &search=0xE17941C6 -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces+spambayes=soleassociates.com@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces+spambayes=soleassociates.com@python.org] On Behalf Of Paul Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 9:55 PM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Toolbar disappeared in Outlook The program was working great, I installed Yahoo Desktop Search, and Spambayes toolbar is gone and the Yahoo one is there. How do I fix this, and have others had this problem. Thanks, Paul Silveri -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050313/6b688afe/attachment.html From drueter at assyst.com Mon Mar 14 00:12:01 2005 From: drueter at assyst.com (David Rueter) Date: Mon Mar 14 00:12:08 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Plugin interaction with Outlook rules? Message-ID: <20050313231206.0224C1E4006@bag.python.org> I just installed the SpamBayes plugin in Outlook 2003, and it is working wonderfully! Thanks to all who have contributed to this solution. I am wondering if there is a way to have Outlook delay processing of On Arrival rules until after the SpamBayes plugin takes action. For example, if I want to set up an Outlook rule to play a sound or to forward messages to a wireless device, I really don't want such a rule to be run until after SpamBayes has processed the message. BTW, I am having SpamBayes filter IMAP inboxes. Currently, SpamBayes will process the message, and if spam, will move from the IMAP inbox to the Junk folder. However the Outlook On Arrival rules will continue to process the message as though it had not been deleted. Any ideas on how to solve this while still using the Outlook plugin? I'd love to be able to use Outlook rules in conjunction with the SpamBayes plugin. Thanks for any suggestions. David Rueter drueter@assyst.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050313/326c22ce/attachment.htm From sole at soleassociates.com Mon Mar 14 00:19:57 2005 From: sole at soleassociates.com (Kenneth Sole) Date: Mon Mar 14 00:20:14 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Plugin interaction with Outlook rules? In-Reply-To: <20050313231206.0224C1E4006@bag.python.org> Message-ID: <000501c52823$2ceb9450$73ac1cac@note02> Hi David, No expert I, but... It is my understanding that you would delay the action of SpamBayes rather than delaying the Outlook rules. Look in SpamBayes Manager | Advanced. You can set the delay there. It may take a bit of tweaking but it will work. Outlook will do its rules thing, then SB will kick in. All the best, -- Kenneth Sole & Associates, Inc. Box 292 Durham, New Hampshire 03824 Voice: 603-659-3169 Fax: 603-659-2248 Email: sole@soleAssociates.com URL: http://www.soleAssociates.com PGP: http://wwwkeys.ch.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get &search=0xE17941C6 -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of David Rueter Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 6:12 PM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Plugin interaction with Outlook rules? I just installed the SpamBayes plugin in Outlook 2003, and it is working wonderfully! Thanks to all who have contributed to this solution. I am wondering if there is a way to have Outlook delay processing of On Arrival rules until after the SpamBayes plugin takes action. For example, if I want to set up an Outlook rule to play a sound or to forward messages to a wireless device, I really don't want such a rule to be run until after SpamBayes has processed the message. BTW, I am having SpamBayes filter IMAP inboxes. Currently, SpamBayes will process the message, and if spam, will move from the IMAP inbox to the Junk folder. However the Outlook On Arrival rules will continue to process the message as though it had not been deleted. Any ideas on how to solve this while still using the Outlook plugin? I'd love to be able to use Outlook rules in conjunction with the SpamBayes plugin. Thanks for any suggestions. David Rueter drueter@assyst.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Warning to external sender: Attachment blocking action taken. av-admin@oce.de;03/14/2005DE014020dokument.pif/Quarantined [IMC] Inbound Queueinfo@oce.de;real-time scanspambayes@python.org Re: dokument 09:31 AM From freddiew1 at cox.net Thu Mar 10 18:59:33 2005 From: freddiew1 at cox.net (Fred Woolfall) Date: Mon Mar 14 13:14:42 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] ?? Message-ID: <000801c5288f$63d86e90$a85ce544@woolfallpc> PLEASE DOWNLOAD YOUR FRRE ANTI SPAM FILTER RSVP FRDDIEW1@COX.NET THANK YOU -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050310/71f05e4c/attachment.html From guthrie at counterexample.org Tue Mar 15 00:00:19 2005 From: guthrie at counterexample.org (John T. Guthrie) Date: Tue Mar 15 00:00:25 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] MBX format mail spools Message-ID: <200503142300.j2EN0Jog022867@gauss.counterexample.org> Hello all, I've been using SpamBayes for several years now, and I really appreciate all of the work that has gone into it. I was wondering, is there any support for MBX format files (a la UW IMAP for example) in mboxtrain or something similar? Thanks. John Guthrie guthrie@counterexample.org From Robert.Dykes at mcgill.ca Tue Mar 15 15:29:54 2005 From: Robert.Dykes at mcgill.ca (Robert Dykes, Dr.) Date: Tue Mar 15 16:08:11 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Question Message-ID: <1ED204ADC861524AAC98AE8668DBAE6C873095@EXCHANGE2VS2.campus.mcgill.ca> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I've tried uninstalling and re-installing both 1.0.1 and 1.0.3. Both only work until the first reboot. Any ideas? regards, EC -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: 04 March 2005 04:58 To: 'cecconi'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] spambayes corruption > I have istalled SB 1.0.3 on Outlook 2000 on W98se > It works fine until I shutdown and restart the PC the next day. > Then Outlook starts OK but the SB button on the toolbar > is now a small blank square without any meu items on it. > If I shut down outlook and re-install SB, all is OK again > until the next re-boot. The SB.log file is empty. Are all the SpamBayesX.log files empty? There should at least be ones that have the message saying that SpamBayes was installed, and if SpamBayes is working at all then there will be a log with messages in it. Have you tried doing a "Detect and Repair" on Outlook? Have you checked that it's not Outlook disabling SpamBayes each day, for some reason? =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: spambayes2.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 59 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050315/6cd5637e/spambayes2.obj -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Bob MIS Department, City of Cambridge 831 Massachusetts Ave, Cambridge MA 02139 ? 617-349-4217 ? fax 617-349-6165 > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces+rcoe=cambridgema.gov@python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces+rcoe=cambridgema.gov@python.org]On Behalf Of > Tony Meyer > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 7:32 PM > To: 'Ian Halderman'; spambayes@python.org > Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Huge Log File - Over 13GB in Size > > > > We recently installed Spam Bayes on our network and > > everything appeared to be ok until one of our users ran out > > of disk space , and we discovered a SpamBayes log file in > > excess of 13GB ! > > > > Our Questions: > > > > Why is this happening ? > > If you try to connect to the mail server and it is unavailable, and you are > using the 1.0.3 binary or Python 2.4 with source, and the DNS lookup > succeeds even though the connection fails, then an error message is written > to the log until SpamBayes is restarted or reconfigured. > (This is a bug with Python, IMO). > > > How can we shut off the log file ? > > You cannot. (With the binary. If you run from source you can do whatever > you like). > > > How can we limit, and or control the maximum size of the log file ? > > You cannot. (With the binary. If you run from source you can do whatever > you like). > > A solution for this has been checked in, so will appear in the next release. > For the moment, if you cannot guarantee that the mail client will only check > for mail when the server is reachable, then you will need to either use > 1.0.1 or run 1.0.3 from source with Python 2.3, or run CVS head with Python > 2.2/2.3/2.4. > > =Tony.Meyer From burdick at research.ge.com Tue Mar 15 23:13:27 2005 From: burdick at research.ge.com (Burdick, William E (Research)) Date: Tue Mar 15 23:11:52 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Message-ID: I have been using SpamBayes Outlook plug in with great success for nearly a year. It has worked very well without any real hiccups. However, I have noticed that SpamBayes does not filter the first spam message in my list of emails, i.e., there is always at least one spam message in my email, located first in the order or newly received messages (the first in the list has the most recent time stamp). Is there a fix for this? From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 15 23:20:45 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 15 23:20:52 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: Huge Log File - Over 13GB in Size In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I have not been able to reproduce this problem, either when > offline from my Exchange server at work or when unconnected > to my home POP3 server. The address of the POP3 server > doesn't get resolved by DNS, but does appear in a HOSTS file. > I'd think that would be sufficient to trigger the problem, > but I guess it isn't. I use Outlook 2000 with Windows XP Pro SP2. I wrote this: Do you get a single getaddrinfo() failed error? If I (also XP SP2) just unplug my network connection, that's what I get. To trigger it, I had to enter the POP3 address as an IP address and unplug the network connection. I believe that Python's socket module just calls getaddrinfo() on whatever is given, whether domain name or IP address, so it's up to the underlying C library what it does. Perhaps XP's winsock doesn't try the HOSTS file? (Mine only has localhost). Then I clicked: you're using the Outlook plug-in, and I believe everyone that experiences this problem is using sb_server (because the Outlook plug-in doesn't get involved in mail delivery). So unless you are actually using sb_server, you won't be able to reproduce it. =Tony.Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 15 23:29:34 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 15 23:29:41 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Plugin interaction with Outlook rules? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I am wondering if there is a way to have Outlook delay > processing of On Arrival rules until after the SpamBayes > plugin takes action. As Kenneth said, it's much simpler to get SpamBayes to take action last (this is a limitation of working with Outlook). > For example, if I want to set up an Outlook rule to play a > sound or to forward messages to a wireless device, I really > don't want such a rule to be run until after SpamBayes has > processed the message. This sort of application is the reason that 1.1 will include the ability to set an action to take for ham messages. For example, you can have SpamBayes filter your Inbox, moving all ham to a (eg) "Ham" folder, and then have Outlook's rules process mail coming into that folder, rather than the Inbox. I'm hoping to have 1.1a1 done next week (other work is finally settling down), or you can run from CVS source, if you are able to set that up, right now. (The changes have been in place for some time). As an aside, 1.1 also includes support for notification sounds. > BTW, I am having SpamBayes filter IMAP inboxes. Currently, > SpamBayes will process the message, and if spam, will move > from the IMAP inbox to the Junk folder. However the Outlook > On Arrival rules will continue to process the message as though > it had not been deleted. > Any ideas on how to solve this while still using the Outlook > plugin? I'd love to be able to use Outlook rules in conjunction > with the SpamBayes plugin. Maybe you need to adjust the timer values for the background filtering option? =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 15 23:32:02 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 15 23:32:10 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] (geen onderwerp) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I'm using Mozilla to download my e-mail from my google > account. Google is using a secure login. It bypasses my virus > scanner. Will it bypass Spambayes? You cannot use POP over SSL with SpamBayes 1.0.x, no. However, 1.1 will fix this to a certain extent, and right now you can do this if you use something like stunnel. There was a how-to posted to the list not long ago: The mailer there is Eudora, IIRC, but the setup should be mostly the same, and should still work. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 15 23:41:04 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 15 23:41:13 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes for server In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > There is no easy way to get SpamBayes integrated directly > with Exchange Server. [...] If you want to try the hard way (I'm not recommending this, just offering information), then there's tips from people who have setup SpamBayes server-side here: =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 15 23:43:22 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 15 23:43:28 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Help! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > our Spambayes is placing messages in the junk file when > they are not always junk. I cannot see the file to review > these messages. How can I view the contents of the junk file? It looks like you are using Outlook - is that correct? If not, then the rest of this message will be invalid. You should be able to view the contents of the junk/spam folder just like any other folder in Outlook. What happens when you try? (The correct action is to open up that folder, select any incorrectly classified messages, and click the "Recover from Spam" button). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 15 23:44:59 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 15 23:45:13 2005 Subject: [SpamBayes] SpamBayes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > BINGO! Never knew that there was such a thing as a "plug-in > disabled" function, and I NEVER would have thought to look in > Help About. Yes, not exactly the most logical place for it. I'm sure it made sense to someone at Microsoft. > How does stuff get there? Is that done by Uninstall? I'm not sure exactly. I believe that when Outlook disables a plug-in (e.g. it thinks that it is causing problems) that is how it does it. > Anyway, everything is working fine. Good to hear. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 15 23:47:41 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 15 23:47:47 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] MBX format mail spools In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I was wondering, is there any support for MBX format files > (a la UW IMAP for example) in mboxtrain or something similar? Yes, sb_mboxtrain will train from mbx (mbox) files. The web interface (of sb_server or sb_imapfilter) can do this too, as can sb_filter. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 15 23:53:31 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 15 23:53:41 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > My Spambayes no longer moves spam to the junk folder. > The program is enabled and it correctly classifies spam > (99% in most cases), but it does not move them to the > junk folder. I have restarted and retrained it with no > change in the situation. If I do it manually it goes into > the correct folder, but will not do it automatically based > on the calculation made. [...] > NOTE: Skipping folder for this session - temporarily unavailable > NOTE: Skipping folder for this session - temporarily unavailable > Eeek - only expecting one row from IPC.MS.REN.USERFIELDS [...] > Folder 'Robert Dykes, Dr./Junk suspects' has no field named 'Spam' - creating > Eeek - only expecting one row from IPC.MS.REN.USERFIELDS [...] > WARNING: We just created the user field in folder Robert Dykes, > Dr./Junk suspects, but it appears to not exist. > Something is probably wrong with DoesFolderHaveOutlookField() > Skipping processing of missed messages in folder 'Bo?te de > r?ception', as it is not available [...] This is a case of: [ 961019 ] Outlook2K3 spews warnings as it fails to create spam field Unfortunately, although this bug has been open for some time, we still do not know what causes it or how to solve it. Do you know if anything with your Exchange server changed recently? Have you tried doing a "Detect and Repair" on Outlook? =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 15 23:56:04 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 15 23:57:15 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > However, I have noticed that SpamBayes > does not filter the first spam message in my list of emails, > i.e., there is always at least one spam message in my email, > located first in the order or newly received messages (the > first in the list has the most recent time stamp). Is there > a fix for this? Is this message marked as read before SpamBayes gets a chance to process it, by any chance? SpamBayes will only process unread, unfiltered mail in the folders it is watching. For example, if that message is selected before SpamBayes starts working (see the background filter timer values) and you have Outlook set to mark messages as read after a certain period of time being displayed in the preview pane, then this could cause that. If this is the problem, then the solution is to wait until SpamBayes has done it's work before marking the message as read. (Perhaps adjusting the timer values). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 15 23:59:39 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 15 23:59:46 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes corruption In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > yes there are log files. Here they are attached. > The 1st one, SB2 just says "Registration complete" > The 2nd one, SB1 is at the time of the first start up of > Outlook just after SB install (at which time SB works). The > last line looks strange to me. It says "Addin terminating: 2 > COM client and 2 COM servers exist." That line is normal. It means that the addin-in is closing (because you closed Outlook). It will be at the end of every log where Outlook closes normally. > From then on (after a reboot) I get no more SB log files and SB does > not work. The SB toolbar is present in Outlook, but the "Delete > as Spam" does nothing and the "Spambayes" button just > produces a small blank square intsead of the drop down menu. > > I've tried uninstalling and re-installing both 1.0.1 and > 1.0.3. Both only work until the first reboot. And this is definitely not Outlook disabling the plug-in? i.e. you've checked Help->About Microsoft Outlook->Disabled Items, and the Tools->Options->Other->Advanced Options->COM Plug-ins list? If there is no log, then Outlook is not starting the plug-in, so it has become unregistered somehow, AFAICT. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From ross at rossmaxwell.com Wed Mar 16 03:49:10 2005 From: ross at rossmaxwell.com (Ross Maxwell) Date: Wed Mar 16 03:49:20 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes will not load Message-ID: <000201c529d2$bb69ef00$6400a8c0@officecomputer> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Box 292 Durham, New Hampshire 03824 Voice: 603-659-3169 Fax: 603-659-2248 Email: sole@soleAssociates.com URL: http://www.soleAssociates.com PGP: http://wwwkeys.ch.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE17941C6 -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of Nick Simoff Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 9:57 AM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) I accidentally deleted the junk e-mail folder. How do I get it back. _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Mar 17 06:42:36 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Mar 17 06:42:43 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: [spambayes-dev] outlook 2000 dosn't respond In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [Please note that spambayes-dev is for discussion of spambayes development. Questions, bug reports, problems, and so forth, should be directed to spambayes@python.org] > I have been using Spambayes for a while, ans it works great > until lately it just stop. > > I did uninstall and re-install but nothing. > > the icon are there but when I click nothing happing, even if > i click on Remove as Spam nothing happing either Check to see if Outlook has disabled the plug-in. Help->About Microsoft Outlook->Disabled Items. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From Howard.Brazee at cusys.edu Thu Mar 17 14:32:59 2005 From: Howard.Brazee at cusys.edu (Howard Brazee) Date: Thu Mar 17 14:35:57 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Partial uninstall Message-ID: I downloaded and installed the latest upgrade. Since I check e-mail from home with a pop-3 emailer, I decided to install the pop-3 part. I changed my mind and am trying to stop loading the Spambayes icon next to my clock, and only use the Outlook part. How do I accomplish this? From bounce_29155883 at mail.sign-up.to Thu Mar 17 17:26:26 2005 From: bounce_29155883 at mail.sign-up.to (Adam) Date: Thu Mar 17 17:26:28 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] 19th March Message-ID: <200503171626.j2HGQQGO002239@h100240.tdmgroup.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050317/36bf322b/attachment.html From rnb at cecconi.org.uk Thu Mar 17 20:16:13 2005 From: rnb at cecconi.org.uk (cecconi) Date: Thu Mar 17 20:16:16 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes corruption In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Tony, I couldn't see any "Disabled Items" in Help->About Microsoft Outlook, but, Spambayes was disabled in Tools->Options->Other->Advanced Options->COM Plug-ins list. I think I had disabled it once while going through all the FAQs on the SB site. As I had then gone through so many uninstall/re-install cycles, I hadn't thought that it might need resetting. It all seems to be working OK now. Thanks very much for your help. regards, Ric -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: 15 March 2005 23:00 To: 'cecconi'; spambayes@python.org And this is definitely not Outlook disabling the plug-in? i.e. you've checked Help->About Microsoft Outlook->Disabled Items, and the Tools->Options->Other->Advanced Options->COM Plug-ins list? From bounce_28952994 at mail.sign-up.to Thu Mar 17 12:37:35 2005 From: bounce_28952994 at mail.sign-up.to (Cafe de Paris) Date: Thu Mar 17 20:52:45 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Join us for a Fashion show and after party this Friday, RSVP for guestlist Message-ID: <200503171137.j2HBbZdv004926@h100239.tdmgroup.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks in advance, Marco ---------------------------------------------------------------- Op deze e-mail zijn de volgende voorwaarden van toepassing: http://www.fontys.nl/disclaimer The above disclaimer applies to this e-mail message. ---------------------------------------------------------------- From tim.peters at gmail.com Thu Mar 17 22:49:00 2005 From: tim.peters at gmail.com (Tim Peters) Date: Thu Mar 17 22:49:07 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] uninstall entire SpamBayes program? In-Reply-To: <3C9010C6652AB645BC025F2372A86BB214C7EC9C@mail.law.uiuc.edu> References: <3C9010C6652AB645BC025F2372A86BB214C7EC9C@mail.law.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: <1f7befae0503171349538489a9@mail.gmail.com> [Greenfield, Adam] > How do I uninstall the entire SpamBayes program? That depends on which version you're using. If you're using the Outlook addin, see question 3.16 ("How do I uninstall the plug-in?") in the FAQ: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html for details. > It puts tons of emails into the suspects folder, even those that are almost > identical to email kept in my inbox. It takes me even longer to sort threw > this after I wait for it to sort the email in the first place. That's very unusual, and probably due to problems in training. If you haven't done any training, it will put _all_ email into the suspects folder; "bad" training can of course approximate that situation too. If you want to repair that, say something about how you've trained (on how many ham? how many spam? what does "Show Clues" say when you point it at a message whose classification you don't like? stuff like that). From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Mar 18 01:29:33 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Mar 18 01:29:38 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] information about the project In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Is there a place where I can find the specific design > documentation? All other kinds of documentation are very > welcome as well :) Have you looked at the website? If you go to the background page, there's lots about how things work: Bits are heavy in maths/stats, though, so if you're not a fan of those then you may want to brush over those bits. At the end of that page there's also a link to a paper I co-write, which covers how SpamBayes works in a shorter more simple way (hopefully!): There's also FAQ 1.5, which should be the most straightforward and simple to understand: Finally, there's the source code itself. In particular, you could read tokenizer.py and classifier.py, which both have plenty of comments that explain what is happening. If you can read pseudo-code, then you should be able to make sense of most of tokenzier.py and classifier.py. =Tony.Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Mar 18 01:30:40 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Mar 18 01:30:50 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Partial uninstall In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I downloaded and installed the latest upgrade. Since I > check e-mail from home with a pop-3 emailer, I decided to > install the pop-3 part. I changed my mind and am trying to > stop loading the Spambayes icon next to my clock, and only > use the Outlook part. > > How do I accomplish this? Do an uninstall (this won't touch the configuration or training data), then reinstall just the plug-in. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From ross at rossmaxwell.com Fri Mar 18 03:48:51 2005 From: ross at rossmaxwell.com (Ross Maxwell) Date: Fri Mar 18 03:49:04 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Any thoughts on this???? Can not install program Message-ID: <000001c52b65$04e9f560$0400000a@officecomputer> Skipped content of type multipart/related-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: outlook_addin_register.exe.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 328 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050317/e5d08108/outlook_addin_register.exe.obj From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Mar 18 04:55:15 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Mar 18 04:55:20 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Any thoughts on this???? Can not install program In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Can't get the program to install... I get this >>>>> > > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "addin.py", line 72, in ? > IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: > 'C:\\DOCUME~1\\ROSSMA~1\\LOCALS~1\\Temp\\spambayes1.log' > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "addin.py", line 72, in ? > IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: > 'C:\\DOCUME~1\\ROSSMA~1\\LOCALS~1\\Temp\\spambayes1.log' When you posted this previously you had me stumped - I couldn't see how you could get a permission denied error to open the log that you were presenting the contents of. In this post, though, I see that the actual log you're getting this from is outlook_addin_register.exe.log, which explains everything. It appears that you do not have permission to write to your temp directory. I'm surprised that other programs work! The binary version of SpamBayes requires access to the temp directory to write the log files - it simply won't work if it can't create the files. Your only options are to run from source, or to let SpamBayes have the access to write these temp files. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From ross at rossmaxwell.com Fri Mar 18 06:04:24 2005 From: ross at rossmaxwell.com (Ross Maxwell) Date: Fri Mar 18 06:04:42 2005 Subject: NEXT STEP ??? RE: [Spambayes] Any thoughts on this???? Can not install program In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000801c52b77$f49d9dc0$0400000a@officecomputer> Spambayes Group: Any thoughts on the next step?? I looked into the .....\Temp directory and for some reason it is set at Read-Only....what's that all about? Well I tried to change it to Archive and it "SWITCHED" back to Read-Only...it wouldn't say put. Confusing yeh? Any next step suggestions or folks to chat with so I can allow Spambayes the ability to write to this " Temp"directory? I am running XP Home with the Service Pack 2 and all current updates. Thanks in advance, Ross Maxwell -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 7:55 PM To: ross@rossmaxwell.com; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Any thoughts on this???? Can not install program > Can't get the program to install... I get this >>>>> > > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "addin.py", line 72, in ? > IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: > 'C:\\DOCUME~1\\ROSSMA~1\\LOCALS~1\\Temp\\spambayes1.log' > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "addin.py", line 72, in ? > IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: > 'C:\\DOCUME~1\\ROSSMA~1\\LOCALS~1\\Temp\\spambayes1.log' When you posted this previously you had me stumped - I couldn't see how you could get a permission denied error to open the log that you were presenting the contents of. In this post, though, I see that the actual log you're getting this from is outlook_addin_register.exe.log, which explains everything. It appears that you do not have permission to write to your temp directory. I'm surprised that other programs work! The binary version of SpamBayes requires access to the temp directory to write the log files - it simply won't work if it can't create the files. Your only options are to run from source, or to let SpamBayes have the access to write these temp files. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From bounce_29096272 at mail.sign-up.to Thu Mar 17 15:34:43 2005 From: bounce_29096272 at mail.sign-up.to (Sarah) Date: Fri Mar 18 07:21:22 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] the plan for the weekend Message-ID: <200503171434.j2HEYhBv003904@h100240.tdmgroup.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050317/fdfff706/attachment.htm From bounce_29291986 at mail.sign-up.to Fri Mar 18 12:13:03 2005 From: bounce_29291986 at mail.sign-up.to (Adam) Date: Fri Mar 18 12:13:04 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] 19th March Message-ID: <200503181113.j2IBD3KC030776@h100239.tdmgroup.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050318/8690dfa0/attachment.htm From aberman at houston.rr.com Fri Mar 18 16:01:32 2005 From: aberman at houston.rr.com (Arthur E. Berman) Date: Fri Mar 18 16:00:56 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] How do I find Junk Email Message-ID: <000c01c52bcb$5f901240$6400a8c0@art2k> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 2743 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050318/c88e81f3/attachment.jpe From jszyman3 at merr.com Fri Mar 18 17:48:02 2005 From: jszyman3 at merr.com (Jeff Szymanski) Date: Fri Mar 18 17:48:12 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] retrain from scratch Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050318104102.054ea060@localhost> I've made SpamBayes 1.03 training mistakes using the sb_server program and want to retrain from scratch. Short of uninstalling/reinstalling the whole program, how do I do this? I already wiped-out the pop3proxy-ham/spam/unknown-caches and retrained attempting to keep the ham and spam folders equal. Is it actually the huge (10,552,992 DB file type) hammie.db file in C:\WINDOWS\Application Data\SpamBayes\Proxy\ that I have to reset? And if so, how? Thanks in advance. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 3/15/2005 From rnb at cecconi.org.uk Fri Mar 18 19:16:08 2005 From: rnb at cecconi.org.uk (cecconi) Date: Fri Mar 18 19:16:11 2005 Subject: RESEND: [Spambayes] spambayes corruption In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I spoke too soon! Now what's happening is that the Spambayes checkbox in [Tools->Options->Other->Advanced Options->COM Plug-ins list] won't stay checked. I check the box, I click OK, and if I click COM plug-ins again, the box is unchecked. What do I do now?!? regards, Ric ----------------------------------- Hi Tony, I couldn't see any "Disabled Items" in Help->About Microsoft Outlook, but, Spambayes was disabled in Tools->Options->Other->Advanced Options->COM Plug-ins list. I think I had disabled it once while going through all the FAQs on the SB site. As I had then gone through so many uninstall/re-install cycles, I hadn't thought that it might need resetting. It all seems to be working OK now. Thanks very much for your help. regards, Ric -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: 15 March 2005 23:00 To: 'cecconi'; spambayes@python.org And this is definitely not Outlook disabling the plug-in? i.e. you've checked Help->About Microsoft Outlook->Disabled Items, and the Tools->Options->Other->Advanced Options->COM Plug-ins list? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I was about to send you a little money because I have been looking for a decent anti SPAM program. However, all of a sudden, it stopped seeing the email. It seems to set up correctly (worked before). It says "There are no untrained messages to display. Return Home , or check again .". I am still receiving SPAM for which I cannot "train". I tried a reinstall (although I did not uninstall first). I am about to uninstall for good. As one last chance, PLEASE give me some help. It has not picked up ONE email for about 2 months. Thank you. Bill Mandakis bmandakis@triad.rr.com (336)993-7220 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050319/982fca5b/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Mar 20 01:25:08 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun Mar 20 01:25:18 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] HELP, HELP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I have tried for two months to contact you. It is obvious > you do not want to be contacted. Except for this email link > (which has not been working apparently), I do not know how > to get to you. Here's my reply to your previous email. I presume that this message won't get to you either, since the last one apparently didn't, but I'll give it one more try. If you do get it, you might want to be more careful about making accusations in the future. """ > I already sent an email a week ago. I have not received any > info back. >From the same email address? To spambayes@python.org? AFAICT I never received such an email, and it's not in the archives for the list, so it doesn't appear to have made it through. Did you get the auto-reply? > About a month ago, the Spambayes just stopped dead checking my email. > Why? It was working very well in the "training". All of a sudden, it > stopped any training. I am still receiving some spam. So, I should be > still having "training" to do. Which SpamBayes application are you using? Sb_server? Sb_imapfilter? The Outlook plug-in? What mail client are you using? Outlook Express, Eudora, Thunderbird, Outlook? Is the problem with checking (i.e. filtering/classifying) your mail, or with training SpamBayes, or with both? Your message says one, then the other. What happens when you try to classify/train? Do you get an error message? Do your log files have any error messages in them? The logs are in the Windows temp directory (or, if you are not using Windows, are output to stdout/stderr). The Troubleshooting Guide explains where to find them. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. """ > However, all of a sudden, it stopped seeing the email. It > seems to set up correctly (worked before). It says "There > are no untrained messages to display. Return Home, or check > again.". I am still receiving SPAM for which I cannot "train". The most likely explanation here is that your mail client is connecting directly to your mail server and not through the proxy. Check the mail settings in your mail client. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From bwmarcotte at earthlink.net Sun Mar 20 02:07:48 2005 From: bwmarcotte at earthlink.net (BWMarcotte) Date: Sun Mar 20 02:07:59 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Introduction and Wondering if it is possible to limit emails in review Message-ID: <47054579.20050319200748@earthlink.net> Hello, I've been trying various anti-spam solutions and spambayes is the most promising one I have tried to date. It is almost always accurate in identifying spam. My problem is that I subscribe to many email lists a lot of those have no spam and if possible I would like to not show emails addressed to certain particular email lists. Is this possible? and if so, how do I implement this limiting. I am running windows 2000. -- Best regards, Brian -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 186 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050319/dcb6f94c/attachment.pgp From sole at soleassociates.com Sun Mar 20 16:49:22 2005 From: sole at soleassociates.com (Kenneth Sole) Date: Sun Mar 20 16:49:18 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Introduction and Wondering if it is possible to limitemails in review In-Reply-To: <47054579.20050319200748@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <008201c52d64$6352fdd0$6501a8c0@kenneth00> Hi Brian, No expert I, but... If you are using Outlook, the process is simple: Just set up rules to move list mail to any folders you wish, then, after the rules move things around, have SpamBayes (which has a delay function for this reason) act on the new messages in your Inbox. That works well for me. All the best, -- Kenneth Sole & Associates, Inc. Box 292 Durham, New Hampshire 03824 Voice: 603-659-3169 Fax: 603-659-2248 Email: sole@soleAssociates.com URL: http://www.soleAssociates.com PGP: http://wwwkeys.ch.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE17941C6 -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of BWMarcotte Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 8:08 PM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Introduction and Wondering if it is possible to limitemails in review Hello, I've been trying various anti-spam solutions and spambayes is the most promising one I have tried to date. It is almost always accurate in identifying spam. My problem is that I subscribe to many email lists a lot of those have no spam and if possible I would like to not show emails addressed to certain particular email lists. Is this possible? and if so, how do I implement this limiting. I am running windows 2000. -- Best regards, Brian From pbelanger at forsk.com Mon Mar 21 12:22:13 2005 From: pbelanger at forsk.com (Philippe Belanger) Date: Mon Mar 21 12:25:05 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Message-ID: Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: outlook_addin_register.exe.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 143 bytes Desc: outlook_addin_register.exe.log Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050321/459d48ca/outlook_addin_register.exe.obj From kenny.pitt at gmail.com Mon Mar 21 16:52:09 2005 From: kenny.pitt at gmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Mon Mar 21 16:52:19 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] HELP, HELP In-Reply-To: <423C574C.4060806@triad.rr.com> Message-ID: <423eedad.07477c03.1287.09b6@mx.gmail.com> Bill Mandakis wrote: > I have tried for two months to contact you. It is obvious you do not want > to be contacted. Except for this email link (which has not been working > apparently), I do not know how to get to you. I'm sorry that you feel like your question has been ignored. Please remember that this is an open-source project staffed entirely by volunteers who have other commitments that must sometimes take precedence over this project. Yes, this mailing list is the only way to contact "support" for SpamBayes, and we try our best to answer every question we receive. Unfortunately, some questions do fall through the cracks. > PROBLEM: I downloaded this program and installed it. It seemed to be > working pretty well. I was about to send you a little money because I have > been looking for a decent anti SPAM program. However, all of a sudden, it > stopped seeing the email. It seems to set up correctly (worked before). It > says "There are no untrained messages to display. Return Home, or check > again.". I am still receiving SPAM for which I cannot "train". I tried a > reinstall (although I did not uninstall first). I am about to uninstall for > good. As one last chance, PLEASE give me some help. It has not picked up > ONE email for about 2 months. First, we'll need to know a little more information about your environment. What version number of SpamBayes did you download and install? Which SpamBayes application are you running (sounds like probably sb_server, but we can't tell for sure)? What operating system and version are you running? What mail client (Outlook, Outlook Express, Thunderbird, Eudora, Evolution, Kmail, etc.) and version are you running? Pending that additional information, the most common cause when someone says that the proxy version of SpamBayes is not seeing any e-mail messages is that the mail client is still configured to point directly at the mail server instead of pointing at the SpamBayes proxy. Note that the installation won't do this setup for you, so reinstalling won't help if this is the problem. First, check the mail server configuration in your mail client. If it is pointing to a server at your ISP or mail provider then you are bypassing SpamBayes. The mail client should be configured to get mail from "localhost" on whatever port you have configured SpamBayes to listen on (default is 110). SpamBayes then needs to be configured in the Web UI to talk to your mail server. If you are still receiving mail in your mail client then you should be able to look at the complete headers for one of the received messages. If you don't see a "X-Spambayes-Classification: ..." header then SpamBayes is not processing the message and you are almost certainly receiving it directly from your mail server. -- Kenny Pitt From service at lasallebank.com Tue Mar 22 06:03:42 2005 From: service at lasallebank.com (LaSalle Online Banking) Date: Tue Mar 22 06:53:51 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] LaSalle Online Banking - Urgent account verification! Message-ID: <200503220503.j2M53gr06920@localhost.localdomain> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks in advance, Christiaan Konstapel From iscarr at gmail.com Tue Mar 22 15:25:01 2005 From: iscarr at gmail.com (Ian Carr) Date: Tue Mar 22 15:25:03 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] GMail and port 995 Message-ID: I've been using spambayes successfully at both work and home for some two months now and finally decided to go out on a limb and try to convince it to work with my GMail account. I bit more information: I'm running Windows XP Home, using Opera 8 Beta 3, and the pop3proxy. Gmail wants the pop connection on port 995, spambayes defaults to 110. If I try to make a change in the account settings in Opera to 110, it claims it can't send login information. Okay, so I figure out how to make the proxy pass the information to the correct port, no problem. Except it's still not receiving the mail. Basically, the connection just times out. Now, this isn't a spectacularly big problem at the moment; but I'd like to get all the wrinkles ironed out of this before I think of moving all of my email to Gmail. Oh yeah, and I know I'm using a beta email service on a beta browser with a spam blocker that's just past 1.0. But hey, if I don't, someone else will. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 22 07:56:56 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 22 21:57:34 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Error Message In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I have a user who, when she highlights an email in her > "Junk Suspects" folder and clicks "Delete as spam," the > following error message pops up: > > No selection > No filterable mail items are selected. > > I click OK, and the email stays where it is, instead of > moving to the "Junk Email" folder. > > Any ideas as to what's wrong, and what I could do? Only certain types of messages are able to be trained - generally it should include any message that has been received. There are sometimes odd messages that don't match the criteria, though, and you'll run across this problem. (You can also get it by putting a message that wasn't received, for example a sent item, in the folder). Just manually move that message, and all should be fine. If you find that you're getting these often, please open a bug report on sourceforge and attach a copy of one of the messages. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From Kara.Burkhardt at swlco.com Tue Mar 22 22:24:45 2005 From: Kara.Burkhardt at swlco.com (Burkhardt, Kara) Date: Tue Mar 22 22:24:34 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Recover from Junk Suspects Message-ID: <5E6549720D20A24C996008D2DBE37FF60110B2FD@nvasrex000003.EXMST.LOCAL> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 7559 bytes Desc: Forest Floor.jpg Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050322/ae671244/attachment.jpe From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 22 23:03:41 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 22 23:03:49 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Recover from Junk Suspects In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > When she tries to recover an email from the Junk Suspects, the > mail disappears when she clicks recover from spam. We've done > a search for the email and check the deleted log and nothing. > Any clue where this email might be going? It will go either into the folder it originally came from, or, if there is a problem doing that, into the default store's Inbox. Either way, if you look at the SpamBayes log, it will tell you which folder it gets moved into. Check that you don't have a filter setup on the view in that folder that's hiding the message. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 22 23:07:04 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 22 23:08:17 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] GMail and port 995 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I've been using spambayes successfully at both work and home > for some two months now and finally decided to go out on a > limb and try to convince it to work with my GMail account. Gmail pop access requires POP over SSL (hence the port 995). SpamBayes 1.0.x doesn't support POP over SSL (1.1 will have limited support). So you can't just use the two together, unfortunately - although you can use them together if you add something else like stunnel as well. Another SpamBayes user has written up instructions about how to do this - that's probably the best place to start: =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 22 23:10:14 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 22 23:10:20 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] change logging settings In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I'm running a SpamBayes pop3proxy on a windows 2000 server > machine. I was wondering how i can change the logging > settings (set logging off) because my (small) disks are > running a little bit low on space. I could find anything > about it on the net, only something for the outlook plugin > (verbose), can I use that setting for disabling logging? You can't turn logging off (unless you run from source). By default logging is non-verbose (you can make it *more* verbose by adding [globals]verbose=True to your configuration file). It's likely that you've hit a relatively common problem with 1.0.3. If your mail client tries to connect to the server and fails (but DNS lookup succeeds) then the log file will be continually written to with a warning message. This is a problem with Python 2.4 (a bug, IMO), which 1.0.3 is built with. Assuming that this is the problem for you, then the solution is to just revert back to 1.0.1 until there is a new release. (Or you can run from source with Python 2.2/2.3, or run from CVS source with Python 2.2/2.3/2.4). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 22 23:26:43 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 22 23:27:03 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] How do I find Junk Email In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > How do I find the "Junk Email" and "Suspect Email" folders. > This is not obvious to me. You selected them when you configured SpamBayes (probably using the Wizard), or at least accepted the defaults, so if you can remember back to then, then there's the answer. If not, then open up the Manager dialog and go to the Filtering tab. The folders are selected there - you can look at which ones they are, or change them. > I have searched for "Junk" using the Windows search function > and nothing is found. The Windows search function is for finding files and directories only - it will not find any mail or folders inside Outlook (you'll want to use the Outlook search function for that). > Most of the "Help" buttons do not work. For example, when I > choose Help>About Spambayes, I get a message that says "Can't > find about.html". This happens for Trouble Shooting Guide also. > None of the "Browse" buttons work in Spam Bayes Manager under > the Filtering Tab. This sounds like a very broken install. I highly recommend uninstalling and then reinstalling. All of those should work. > I can see that messages are coming in by going to the Website of > my ISP, but most are not appearing in my Outlook Inbox, probably > because they are going to the Junk Email or Suspect Email folders > that I can't find. Whenever I open Spambayes Manager the "Enable > Spambayes" box is unchecked. If that box isn't checked, then SpamBayes isn't running, so it's not moving your mail. Check that you don't have a filter on your mail, as described in FAQ 3.12: =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 22 04:14:56 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 22 23:41:24 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] retrain from scratch In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I've made SpamBayes 1.03 training mistakes using the > sb_server program and want to retrain from scratch. Short of > uninstalling/reinstalling the whole program, how do I do this? Actually, uninstalling/reinstalling won't do this. Training and configuration data is deliberately left untouched. > I already wiped-out the pop3proxy-ham/spam/unknown-caches and > retrained attempting to keep the ham and spam folders equal. The caches are just the mail waiting to be reviewed, or mail that has recently been reviewed. > Is it actually the huge (10,552,992 DB file type) hammie.db file > in C:\WINDOWS\Application Data\SpamBayes\Proxy\ that I have to reset? > And if so, how? Yes, and you should really get rid of the spambayes.messageinfo.db file, too. Just delete the two of them (when SpamBayes is not running). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 22 04:18:14 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 22 23:41:25 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > In reinstalled SpamBayes 1.0.3 on this new machine but > the entries still present in Outlook 2003 did not work > properly. In fact they just seemed to have no action at all. > In deleted the SpamBayes toolbar from Outlook2003 and quitted > Outlook. I deinstalled SpamBayes and then reinstalled it. > I started Outlook2003 again but the SpamBayes toolbar did not reappear. > > How access it from Outlook 2003 ? > When installing SpamBayes, I got an error message at the end > in file "outlook_addin_register.exe.log". I join this file to > current message. This error message seems quite normal because > 'J:\\TMP\\spambayes1.log' is non existing on the new machine, > disk J does no longer exist on machine B. > Does this error message explain my problem ? How can I find a > workaround and use SpamBayes correctly on my new machine ? Yes, this error explains the problem. Your machine is set so that the Windows 'temp' directory is J:\TMP, which does not exist. This will cause many problems with many programs. You need to fix that (very likely you can do this by going to the System control panel, then to Environment Variables, and changing it there). Once this is done, and you have a valid 'temp' directory, you should be able to start SpamBayes (it needs the temp directory to put the log files in). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 22 01:35:02 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Mar 23 00:16:07 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Introduction and Wondering if it is possible to limitemails in review In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > My problem is that I subscribe to many email lists a lot of those > have no spam and if possible I would like to not show emails addressed > to certain particular email lists. Is this possible? and if so, how > do I implement this limiting. Kenneth's answer should work for Outlook - if you're not using Outlook, then: By "show", I presume you mean "show in the review list on the web interface"? There is an option (Advanced Configuration Page) to turn off caching (and therefore display in the review page) of "bulk" (not spam!) messages, which are typically mailing list messages. This will probably do what you want, as long as the mailing lists are nicely configured. However, this will stop caching for all mailing lists (that have the precedence: bulk header) - there's no way to put a user-defined filter on the review page. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Mar 23 07:23:30 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Mar 23 07:23:38 2005 Subject: RESEND: [Spambayes] spambayes corruption In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I spoke too soon! > > Now what's happening is that the Spambayes checkbox in > [Tools->Options->Other->Advanced Options->COM Plug-ins list] > won't stay checked. I check the box, I click OK, and if I > click COM plug-ins again, the box is unchecked. > > What do I do now?!? What version of Outlook is this? It does sound a lot like the behaviour of Outlook 2002/2003 when a plug-in is disabled (you said you couldn't see any disabled items - were there none, or was the button not there? It won't be there with Outlook 2000). Have you tried using 1.0.1 instead of 1.0.3? I can't think of any reason why 1.0.3 would cause problems, but there are significant differences, and it would be worth a go. If the box isn't staying ticked, then Outlook is doing that for some reason, so it's a case of figuring out why that is. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From Amir_Katz at bmc.com Wed Mar 23 09:12:56 2005 From: Amir_Katz at bmc.com (Katz, Amir) Date: Wed Mar 23 09:24:07 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] retrain from scratch Message-ID: Tony, I completely agree with the design decision that [un/re]install leaves the training/config data untouched. However, is there an option to get rid of them, for those unheard-of cases where a user absolutely, positively wants to get rid of all traces of SB? Or are the steps to do so documented anywhere? Not that I would ever do that, God forbid, but just curious... IMO, every well-designed and well-behaved app should provide a mechanism to completely uninstall, including data, registry changes, folders and what not. Amir -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 05:15 To: 'Jeff Szymanski'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] retrain from scratch > I've made SpamBayes 1.03 training mistakes using the > sb_server program and want to retrain from scratch. Short of > uninstalling/reinstalling the whole program, how do I do this? Actually, uninstalling/reinstalling won't do this. Training and configuration data is deliberately left untouched. > I already wiped-out the pop3proxy-ham/spam/unknown-caches and > retrained attempting to keep the ham and spam folders equal. The caches are just the mail waiting to be reviewed, or mail that has recently been reviewed. > Is it actually the huge (10,552,992 DB file type) hammie.db file > in C:\WINDOWS\Application Data\SpamBayes\Proxy\ that I have to reset? > And if so, how? Yes, and you should really get rid of the spambayes.messageinfo.db file, too. Just delete the two of them (when SpamBayes is not running). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From dddexter at direcway.com Wed Mar 23 15:54:19 2005 From: dddexter at direcway.com (Dave Dexter) Date: Wed Mar 23 15:54:49 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Problems With Eudora Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050323082605.0aa0b7a8@pop3.direcway.com> Having read the Troubleshooting page and having subscribed to the mailing list: Running Win2kPro with latest service packs, SpamBayes v1.0.3. My most recent log file is attached. Log file 3 is 99,144 kb in size and begins: Services are supposed to be run by the system after they have been installed. These command line options are available for (de)installation: -help -install -remove -auto -disabled -interactive -user: -password: Connecting to the Service Control Manager Loading database... SMTP Listener on port 1115 is proxying smtp.direcway.com:25 SMTP Listener on port 1125 is proxying smtp.gmail.com:25 Listener on port 1110 is proxying pop3.direcway.com:1110 Listener on port 1120 is proxying pop.gmail.com:1120 User interface url is http://localhost:8880/ Loading database... SMTP Listener on port 1115 is proxying smtp.direcway.com:25 Listener on port 1110 is proxying pop3.direcway.com:1110 warning: unhandled exception and consists thereafter of unhandled exception messages. Log 4 is 5,251,740 kb long and I can't open it. I have followed the configuration instructions in the FAQ for Eudora as carefully as I can. My tale of woe: When I first installed SpamBayes, watching only Eudora (v6.2.1.2 sponsored mode), it did work and I was training it. Then, I tried to add gmail to the mix. I was never able to connect to gmail. REceived 10061 error codes. After much experimentation, it appears to me that Eudora will communicate only on port 110 and the ports described in the FAQ seem ineffective (even when opened specifically in ZoneAlarm). At the moment, I can receive Eudora mail, and messages do get routed to my Spam and Unsure mail boxes (as described in the FAQ) BUT I can no longer train (SB never sees any messages to train on) and my In box messages do not include the Spambayes -Classification line. Any suggestions? Dave Dexter -------------- next part -------------- Services are supposed to be run by the system after they have been installed. These command line options are available for (de)installation: -help -install -remove -auto -disabled -interactive -user: -password: Connecting to the Service Control Manager Loading database... SMTP Listener on port 25 is proxying smtp.direcway.com:25 Listener on port 110 is proxying pop3.direcway.com:110 User interface url is http://localhost:8880/ From bounce_29702052 at mail.sign-up.to Wed Mar 23 15:11:11 2005 From: bounce_29702052 at mail.sign-up.to (Sarah) Date: Wed Mar 23 19:02:03 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] This Easter weekend Message-ID: <200503231411.j2NEBBto032063@h100239.tdmgroup.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050323/9d6a4d64/attachment.htm From cgi-bin at PayPal.Com Wed Mar 23 21:12:07 2005 From: cgi-bin at PayPal.Com (PayPal) Date: Wed Mar 23 19:51:31 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Security Center Advisory Message-ID: <200503232012.j2NKC7Y30849@ns2.compulogica.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050323/7005d313/attachment.htm From kenny.pitt at gmail.com Wed Mar 23 20:28:52 2005 From: kenny.pitt at gmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Wed Mar 23 20:28:55 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Problems With Eudora In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050323082605.0aa0b7a8@pop3.direcway.com> Message-ID: <4241c375.74d2c83f.515c.0c53@mx.gmail.com> Dave Dexter wrote: > Running Win2kPro with latest service packs, SpamBayes v1.0.3. My most > recent log file is attached. Log file 3 is 99,144 kb in size and > begins: [...] > Listener on port 1110 is proxying pop3.direcway.com:1110 > Listener on port 1120 is proxying pop.gmail.com:1120 I think this is where your problem is. You are trying to connect to the same ports on your remote POP3 servers that you are using as your proxy ports in SpamBayes. I think what you really want for your remote server configuration is pop3.direcway.com:110 and pop.gmail.com:110. > and consists thereafter of unhandled exception messages. Log 4 is > 5,251,740 > kb long and I can't open it. This is a known problem in 1.0.3. If sb_server fails to connect to your POP3 server then it will fill up your log with messages. The problem is already fixed in latest CVS source, and a 1.0.4 version should be available soon with this fix. I think the root cause in your case, however, is that the connection failure was triggered by misconfiguration of your remote servers as described above. -- Kenny Pitt From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Mar 23 23:14:05 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Mar 23 23:14:21 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] retrain from scratch In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I completely agree with the design decision that > [un/re]install leaves the training/config data untouched. > However, is there an option to get rid of them, for those > unheard-of cases where a user absolutely, positively wants to > get rid of all traces of SB? Or are the steps to do so > documented anywhere? Not that I would ever do that, God > forbid, but just curious... IIRC, the only place it's documented is in the archives of this list. The answer is just to delete the SpamBayes directory in /Documents and Settings/{username}/Application Data (assuming Windows). (Unless you've set things up to go in different places, in which case you're on your own). > IMO, every well-designed and well-behaved app should provide > a mechanism to completely uninstall, including data, registry > changes, folders and what not. I agree. I hope to get this into the 1.1 (maybe a2) uninstaller - an (unticked by default) box that says something like "Remove all training and configuration data". It's on my list of things to do (there are other changes I'm planning on making to the installer, like providing a "install for all users" option for the plug-in, so I'll do it at the same time), but I don't think there's a feature request open or anything. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Mar 23 23:17:52 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Mar 23 23:17:58 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Problems With Eudora In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [Dave Dexter] >> Listener on port 1110 is proxying pop3.direcway.com:1110 >> Listener on port 1120 is proxying pop.gmail.com:1120 [Kenny Pitt] > I think this is where your problem is. Agreed. > You are trying to > connect to the same ports on your remote POP3 servers that > you are using as your proxy ports in SpamBayes. I think what > you really want for your remote server configuration is > pop3.direcway.com:110 and pop.gmail.com:110. Note also that you can leave out the :110 and it will default to that. Gmail is also difficult - you can't connect to gmail on port 110, you need to connect on port 995 with SSL. 1.1 will have some support for this, but until then you have to use something like stunnel if you want to use gmail & spambayes. Another SpamBayes user has written up a how-to guide for this: =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From nparr at mortonwelding.com Wed Mar 23 23:27:29 2005 From: nparr at mortonwelding.com (Niles Parr) Date: Wed Mar 23 23:27:35 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Plugin crashing Message-ID: <20050323222735.094971E4003@bag.python.org> I doubt anyone here is using this but when I try to install unified messenger for our Intertel phone system their plugin crashes the spambayes plugin in outlook 2003. Outlook gives me an error with the dll and disables the spambays plugin. If I uninstall the unified messaging plugin and re-enable spambays it works fine. Any ideas? Thanks Niles -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm away from email from about 30 minutes away until Tuesday morning NZ time. So if there are any problems, I can't fix them. So, my plea to those that are reading spambayes@python.org and helping people out: 1. If some major problem does appear, just get people to use 1.0.1. There's nothing much wrong with it. I'll fix whatever broke on Tuesday. 2. If people complain about the 1.0.3 log file problem, please recommend that they install 1.0.4, which should solve it (twice over). Thanks! And Happy Easter for those of you that celebrate it. =Tony.Meyer From LJones at Lithonia.com Thu Mar 24 07:29:49 2005 From: LJones at Lithonia.com (Jones, Larry) Date: Thu Mar 24 07:30:58 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] 1.0.4 Message-ID: I went to the web site and discontinued my subscription, but I am still on the list Larry Jones Hydrel/AcuityBrands Lighting -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Tony Meyer Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 9:38 PM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] 1.0.4 As you may have noticed, 1.0.4 is now available, which is a fix for the 1.0.3/Python2.4 problem where the log file would fill up. Almost nothing else has changed, so there shouldn't be any new problems (i.e. any there weren't with 1.0.3) with this release. Anything's possible, however. I'm away from email from about 30 minutes away until Tuesday morning NZ time. So if there are any problems, I can't fix them. So, my plea to those that are reading spambayes@python.org and helping people out: 1. If some major problem does appear, just get people to use 1.0.1. There's nothing much wrong with it. I'll fix whatever broke on Tuesday. 2. If people complain about the 1.0.3 log file problem, please recommend that they install 1.0.4, which should solve it (twice over). Thanks! And Happy Easter for those of you that celebrate it. =Tony.Meyer _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From uwe.werner at axelspringer.de Thu Mar 24 10:11:56 2005 From: uwe.werner at axelspringer.de (uwe.werner@axelspringer.de) Date: Thu Mar 24 10:11:59 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Automatic deployment of SpamBayes Message-ID: <49C9EABAD69077419EF0380BFAC5492798FA77@AHBGC127V1.asv.local> Hi, Is there a way to automate the Windows deployment of SpamBayes? With 0.something I could script it into Installshield, but with any newer version I don't get the snap-in in Outlook to show up. Any help would be appreciated! Thanks and kind regards, Uwe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050324/1c200bdf/attachment.html From vze5bgzj at verizon.net Thu Mar 24 14:16:38 2005 From: vze5bgzj at verizon.net (Mike Blonder) Date: Thu Mar 24 13:55:23 2005 Subject: ham,RE: [Spambayes] RE: Huge Log File - Over 13GB in Size In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200503240816.38653.vze5bgzj@verizon.net> Is the definitive answer to this query that nothing can be done about the huge log file issue? Also, I am running SuSE Linux 9.1. I originally opened the compressed application files in a subdiretory of /tmp. For some reason (could be my mistake) the make install routine built the proxy directories into the root directory of the machine, which is precisely where I do not want them to be. When I try moving the directories the application won't work. Must I uninstall and then reinstall? And, if yes, then how do I instruct the application to look at the proxy directories for the trained SPAM information? Also, I have an external box with a quarter terabyte disk. Can I move the proxy directories over to that disk? Thanks Mike On Tuesday 15 March 2005 17:20, Tony Meyer wrote: > > I have not been able to reproduce this problem, either when > > offline from my Exchange server at work or when unconnected > > to my home POP3 server. The address of the POP3 server > > doesn't get resolved by DNS, but does appear in a HOSTS file. > > I'd think that would be sufficient to trigger the problem, > > but I guess it isn't. I use Outlook 2000 with Windows XP Pro SP2. > > I wrote this: > > Do you get a single getaddrinfo() failed error? If I (also XP SP2) just > unplug my network connection, that's what I get. To trigger it, I had to > enter the POP3 address as an IP address and unplug the network connection. > > I believe that Python's socket module just calls getaddrinfo() on whatever > is given, whether domain name or IP address, so it's up to the underlying C > library what it does. Perhaps XP's winsock doesn't try the HOSTS file? > (Mine only has localhost). > > Then I clicked: you're using the Outlook plug-in, and I believe everyone > that experiences this problem is using sb_server (because the Outlook > plug-in doesn't get involved in mail delivery). So unless you are actually > using sb_server, you won't be able to reproduce it. > > =Tony.Meyer > > _______________________________________________ > Spambayes@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From kenny.pitt at gmail.com Thu Mar 24 15:56:13 2005 From: kenny.pitt at gmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Thu Mar 24 15:56:17 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: [spambayes-dev] In box - playing a sound on arrival of new mail. In-Reply-To: <559663697966B44F8DC0A81A585C3CA8577365@neptune1.TheMandelbrotSet.com> Message-ID: <4242d50e.2fa6a2be.518c.ffff970d@mx.gmail.com> FYI, spambayes@python.org is the place to send questions regarding features or problems with the operation of SpamBayes. The spambayes-dev@python.org list is for discussion of issues related to the development of SpamBayes. There is no way to control when Outlook generates its notification sound. However, version 1.1 of SpamBayes will have its own notification sound feature. With this feature, you can turn off the Outlook notification and configure SpamBayes to either play different sounds for each type of mail received or to only play a sound for certain types of messages. The first alpha version of SpamBayes 1.1 should be available sometime soon. -- Kenny Pitt _____ From: spambayes-dev-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-dev-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Labram Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 8:10 AM To: spambayes-dev@python.org Subject: [spambayes-dev] In box - playing a sound on arrival of new mail. In box - playing a sound on arrival of new mail. I would like the new mail alerts only to operate when they are 'ham' and not 'ham or spam'. Is there anyway Outlook 2003 / Spambayes can be configured for this. I can find nothing obvious in the help and web-site faqs. 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We then uninstalled and reinstalled SpamBayes to see if we could get it working again. Unfortunately now with SpamBayes installed Outlook is freezing. We have once again uninstalled SpamBayes and Outlook is working fine but we would really like to get back to using SpamBayes. Can you help? Thanks! Jan MacKenzie N.A. Field Sales System Support __________________________ Commercial Expertise Center Phone (519) 336-0990 Cell phone (519) 383-9586 Fax (519) 336-5100 e-mail: janmackenzie@dow.com From bounce_30055545 at mail.sign-up.to Thu Mar 24 16:31:52 2005 From: bounce_30055545 at mail.sign-up.to (Adam Delinquent) Date: Fri Mar 25 06:32:12 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Monday Message-ID: <200503241531.j2OFVqSY024175@h100240.tdmgroup.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050324/650929e5/attachment.htm From vze5bgzj at verizon.net Fri Mar 25 12:55:16 2005 From: vze5bgzj at verizon.net (Mike Blonder) Date: Fri Mar 25 12:33:59 2005 Subject: ham, Re: ham, RE: [Spambayes] RE: Huge Log File - Over 13GB in Size In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050324100450.02f47868@mail.stevecrocker.com> References: <200503240816.38653.vze5bgzj@verizon.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050324100450.02f47868@mail.stevecrocker.com> Message-ID: <200503250655.16559.vze5bgzj@verizon.net> Thanks for the news. Please let me know how the install works out. Thanks Mike On Thursday 24 March 2005 10:05, you wrote: > I just saw an announcement of 1.0.4 which should fix the problem. > Now I have to get it installed. > Joel > > At 08:16 AM 3/24/2005, you wrote: > >Is the definitive answer to this query that nothing can be done about the > >huge > >log file issue? > > > >Also, I am running SuSE Linux 9.1. I originally opened the compressed > >application files in a subdiretory of /tmp. For some reason (could be my > >mistake) the make install routine built the proxy directories into the > > root directory of the machine, which is precisely where I do not want > > them to be. When I try moving the directories the application won't work. > > Must I uninstall and then reinstall? And, if yes, then how do I > > instruct the application to look at the proxy directories for the trained > > SPAM information? > > > >Also, I have an external box with a quarter terabyte disk. Can I move the > >proxy directories over to that disk? > > > >Thanks > > > >Mike > > > >On Tuesday 15 March 2005 17:20, Tony Meyer wrote: > > > > I have not been able to reproduce this problem, either when > > > > offline from my Exchange server at work or when unconnected > > > > to my home POP3 server. The address of the POP3 server > > > > doesn't get resolved by DNS, but does appear in a HOSTS file. > > > > I'd think that would be sufficient to trigger the problem, > > > > but I guess it isn't. I use Outlook 2000 with Windows XP Pro SP2. > > > > > > I wrote this: > > > > > > Do you get a single getaddrinfo() failed error? If I (also XP SP2) > > > just unplug my network connection, that's what I get. To trigger it, I > > > had to enter the POP3 address as an IP address and unplug the network > > > connection. > > > > > > I believe that Python's socket module just calls getaddrinfo() on > > > whatever is given, whether domain name or IP address, so it's up to the > > > underlying C library what it does. Perhaps XP's winsock doesn't try > > > the HOSTS file? (Mine only has localhost). > > > > > > Then I clicked: you're using the Outlook plug-in, and I believe > > > everyone that experiences this problem is using sb_server (because the > > > Outlook plug-in doesn't get involved in mail delivery). So unless you > > > are actually using sb_server, you won't be able to reproduce it. > > > > > > =Tony.Meyer > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Spambayes@python.org > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > > > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Spambayes@python.org > >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > >Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From bounce_30243153 at mail.sign-up.to Fri Mar 25 16:43:01 2005 From: bounce_30243153 at mail.sign-up.to (Jaded) Date: Fri Mar 25 21:50:39 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Jaded Easter Special - Extended daytime opening Message-ID: <200503251543.j2PFh1LY004564@h100239.tdmgroup.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Any guidance or solution would be appreciated. Thank you, Edward A. Sunada, CPA 56 Hoomalu Street Pearl City, Hawaii 96782-1824 Phone: (808) 456-5715 Facsimile: (808) 456-5715 email: eascpa@hawaii.rr.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this e-mail transmission and any attachment is confidential and remains the property of Edward A. Sunada, CPA until it is received by the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, please note that use, further transmission or disclosure of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify eascpa@hawaii.rr.com as soon as possible, and delete it from your computer without retaining any copies. Thank you for your cooperation. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050328/934ead97/attachment.htm From jronen at stern.nyu.edu Mon Mar 28 20:47:51 2005 From: jronen at stern.nyu.edu (Joshua Ronen) Date: Mon Mar 28 20:47:58 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] junk suspects is empty Message-ID: When searching for a certain mail, the search engine indicates the particular mail is in junk suspects. But the "junk suspects" folder comes up empty! Professor Joshua Ronen Stern School of Business New York University 40 West 4th St. Tel: 212-998-4144 Fax: 212-995-4599 E-mail: jronen@stern.nyu.edu Web: www.stern.nyu.edu/~jronen/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050328/78c8938b/attachment.htm From bcornell at state.pa.us Mon Mar 28 23:52:10 2005 From: bcornell at state.pa.us (Cornell, Beth) Date: Mon Mar 28 23:52:17 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Lost file Message-ID: window 2000. Spambaves Outlook. Lost the Spam file. How do I get it back? ------------------------------------------ PA Department of Education Cornell, Beth Fine Arts and Humanities Advisor bcornell@state.pa.us ------------------------------------------ Add me to your address book... Want a signature like this? From benjamin_mueller at web.de Tue Mar 29 00:12:25 2005 From: benjamin_mueller at web.de (benjamin mueller) Date: Tue Mar 29 00:12:27 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Lost file In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42488149.2070704@web.de> Hello, sounds like this could solve your problem http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#help-i-deleted-the-unsure-spam-folder Sincerely Benjamin -- Cornell, Beth wrote: > window 2000. Spambaves Outlook. Lost the Spam file. How do I get it back? > > ------------------------------------------ > PA Department of Education > Cornell, Beth > Fine Arts and Humanities Advisor > bcornell@state.pa.us > ------------------------------------------ > Add me to your address book... Want a signature like this? > _______________________________________________ > Spambayes@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 29 03:17:35 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 29 03:17:44 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Uninstall In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > How do I uninstall sambayes? Please see FAQ 3.16: =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 29 03:18:48 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 29 03:18:59 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] junk suspects is empty In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > When searching for a certain mail, the search engine indicates > the particular mail is in junk suspects. But the "junk suspects" > folder comes up empty! Does FAQ 3.12 help? (Particularly the bit about Outlook view filters). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 29 03:25:07 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 29 03:25:18 2005 Subject: ham,RE: [Spambayes] RE: Huge Log File - Over 13GB in Size In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Also, I am running SuSE Linux 9.1. I originally opened the > compressed application files in a subdiretory of /tmp. For > some reason (could be my mistake) the make install routine > built the proxy directories into the root directory of the > machine, which is precisely where I do not want them to be. By make install I presume you mean setup.py install. By default this will copy files into the Scripts and Lib/site-packages directories of your Python installation. You can put them elsewhere by passing appropriate commands to distutils (setup.py install help), or you can leave them wherever you want (setup.py isn't doing any compiling or anything like that, just copying files) and ensure that PYTHONPATH includes the directory containing the spambayes package directory (the one with classifier.py in it). > When I try moving the directories the application won't work. Exact error messages help! > Also, I have an external box with a quarter terabyte disk. > Can I move the proxy directories over to that disk? You can move any of the directories anywhere you like. All paths can be altered via either the main Configuration page or the Advanced Configuration page. If a path is not fully specified (doesn't start with /) then it will be relative to the last configuration file loaded: for example, if a path was "spambayes/ham-cache" and the last config file was in ~, then the path would get expanded by SpamBayes to "~/spambayes/ham-cache", but if the path was "/tmp/ham-cache", then it would be left alone. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From ta-meyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 29 03:39:15 2005 From: ta-meyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 29 03:39:34 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: Support request In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I put a support request in the support section of this > website on 15 March. I later noticed that there does not > seem to be much activity in this section however, as the two > other posts there have never been replied to. Well, they *have* both been replied to. Multiple times, for each. And, to be fair, there are only two other posts there because all the other support requests have been dealt with and closed. One of the two (1059690) should probably be either closed or changed to a feature request (it's really moved into a (inactive) discussion, which belongs on the list). The other one (1110985) is really a feature request, too, and, as the comment says, it will be investigated further when time permits (and it explains what is happening and how to avoid it). > Perhaps I should have placed it in the much more active > bugs-section, although that did not seem the appropriate > place at the time. If you want a quick response, then the best place to ask is the mailing list (spambayes@python.org). Trackers are good for keeping a permanent record, and various other things, but responses are generally slower there. The 15th of March is only two weeks ago today. A week of that has been public holidays (in my country, anyway), which means that the chance of a response is much lower. In addition, everyone involved in the project has been quite busy recently, which means that progress has been slow. That's just how volunteer projects work. > Could I perhaps ask you to have a look at my query? I've done this now, but would have done eventually, anyway. Sometimes a response is fast, sometimes it's slow. The stats show that support requests are generally closed in about 3 days at the moment. If you want quicker - then the list is the way to go. But patience is still required. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 29 03:54:59 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 29 03:55:09 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] 1.0.4 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I went to the web site and discontinued my subscription, but > I am still on the list ljones@lithonia.com is definitely still subscribed to spambayes@python.org. You can unsubscribe via email: Which you might find easier than online (), although either works. Not that you'll need to reply to the confirmation email in order to complete the unsubscribe. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 29 03:57:44 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 29 03:57:49 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Automatic deployment of SpamBayes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Is there a way to automate the Windows deployment > of SpamBayes? What exactly do you want automated? Copying files? Registering the plug-in? Both? Inno Setup installers can be used via the command line (see the Inno help for what's available), so you can do most of what you can do with a .msi. If you just want to register the plug-in, then the register-outlook-addin.exe application does that. > With 0.something I could script it into Installshield, > but with any newer version I don't get the snap-in in > Outlook to show up. What does the log file have? Are you registering for all users, or for one? =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 29 03:58:13 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 29 03:58:23 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] v 1.04 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I just installed the new release, and the button for the > toolbar dropdown list doesn't work. -sean Please send us a copy of your most recent log file (see the Troubleshooting Guide for details). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From bweatherhead at mn.rr.com Tue Mar 29 06:30:59 2005 From: bweatherhead at mn.rr.com (bweatherhead) Date: Tue Mar 29 06:30:43 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] I goofed Message-ID: <000001c53418$1fb4a8c0$0202a8c0@downstairs> Hi, I'm new to this program and am NOT a techie. I accidentally marked a good "ham" email as "spam" and sent it to "Junk Mail". How do I get to Junk Mail and correct my goof? Thank you, Barbara Weatherhead bweatherhead@mn.rr.com 612-781-0418 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050328/64faa848/attachment.htm From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 29 06:41:54 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 29 06:42:06 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] I goofed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I accidentally marked a good "ham" email as "spam" and > sent it to "Junk Mail". How do I get to Junk Mail and > correct my goof? Open your "Junk Mail" folder, select the incorrectly trained message, and click the "Recover from Spam" button in the toolbar. This will both correct the training and move the message back to where it came from. Your "Junk Mail" folder was selected at configuration time - if you didn't change the default, it'll be called "Junk Mail" and be in what Outlook considers the 'main' store (close to where incoming mail comes to by default). You can find out which folder this is by looking at the "Filtering" tab in the SpamBayes Manager (from the SpamBayes button on the toolbar) if necessary. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From graham.slapp at nordea.com Tue Mar 29 15:06:04 2005 From: graham.slapp at nordea.com (graham.slapp@nordea.com) Date: Tue Mar 29 15:06:08 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes 1.0.4 Message-ID: <6B04201521A41A4DBB8C6571AB7DFA5201191497@fid1ms05.fid1.root4.net> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: spambayes1.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 1431 bytes Desc: spambayes1.log Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050329/eae6fc5b/spambayes1.obj From tweber at siemens-emis.com Tue Mar 29 18:35:27 2005 From: tweber at siemens-emis.com (Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)) Date: Tue Mar 29 18:35:37 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Recover and Delete buttons do nothing Message-ID: My SpamBayes Outlook plug-in is not processing "Recover..." or "Delete..." requests. I have tried upgrading to the latest and greatest, I have tried retraining. I am including the contents of my log file - I could not find the file in my directories to attach it. What is the default path to it? It has been working fine for months but suddenly stopped. What happened? What should I do? Loaded bayes database from 'c:\SpamBayes_Data\default_bayes_database.db' Loaded message database from 'c:\SpamBayes_Data\default_message_database.db' Bayes database initialized with 251 spam and 133979 good messages *** - message database has 134197 messages - bayes has 134230 - something is screwey SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0.4 (March 2005) starting (with engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004)) on Windows 5.1.2600 (Service Pack 2) using Python 2.3.5 (#62, Feb 8 2005, 16:23:02) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Junk/Spam' Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer FAILED to add the toolbar item 'SpamBayesCommand.Manager' - (-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.', (0, None, None, None, 0, -2147467259), None) The above toolbar message is common - recreating the toolbar... 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Traceback (most recent call last): File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 283, in _Invoke_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 288, in _invoke_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 581, in _invokeex_ File "addin.pyc", line 637, in OnClick File "addin.pyc", line 161, in TrainAsSpam File "train.pyc", line 52, in train_message File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 273, in learn File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 384, in _add_msg File "spambayes\storage.pyc", line 304, in _wordinfoset File "shelve.pyc", line 130, in __setitem__ File "bsddb\__init__.pyc", line 120, in __setitem__ bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') Message 'Now you can Fcul jst as hard' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' Moving and spam training message 'About Dish Network' - Training on message 'About Dish Network' in 'Junk/Spam? - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 283, in _Invoke_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 288, in _invoke_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 581, in _invokeex_ File "addin.pyc", line 637, in OnClick File "addin.pyc", line 161, in TrainAsSpam File "train.pyc", line 52, in train_message File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 273, in learn File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 384, in _add_msg File "spambayes\storage.pyc", line 304, in _wordinfoset File "shelve.pyc", line 130, in __setitem__ File "bsddb\__init__.pyc", line 120, in __setitem__ bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') Moving and spam training message 'About Dish Network' - Training on message 'About Dish Network' in 'Junk/Spam? - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 283, in _Invoke_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 288, in _invoke_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 581, in _invokeex_ File "addin.pyc", line 637, in OnClick File "addin.pyc", line 161, in TrainAsSpam File "train.pyc", line 52, in train_message File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 273, in learn File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 384, in _add_msg File "spambayes\storage.pyc", line 304, in _wordinfoset File "shelve.pyc", line 130, in __setitem__ File "bsddb\__init__.pyc", line 120, in __setitem__ bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') Moving and spam training message 'About Dish Network' - Training on message 'About Dish Network' in 'Junk/Spam? - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 283, in _Invoke_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 288, in _invoke_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 581, in _invokeex_ File "addin.pyc", line 637, in OnClick File "addin.pyc", line 161, in TrainAsSpam File "train.pyc", line 52, in train_message File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 273, in learn File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 384, in _add_msg File "spambayes\storage.pyc", line 304, in _wordinfoset File "shelve.pyc", line 130, in __setitem__ File "bsddb\__init__.pyc", line 120, in __setitem__ bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') Message 'RE: bulse fails to come up on SMUD PSOS' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message 'Are you looking for a little spice in your life?' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Moving and spam training message 'Are you looking for a little spice in your life?' - Training on message 'Are you looking for a little spice in your life?' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 283, in _Invoke_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 288, in _invoke_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 581, in _invokeex_ File "addin.pyc", line 637, in OnClick File "addin.pyc", line 161, in TrainAsSpam File "train.pyc", line 52, in train_message File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 273, in learn File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 384, in _add_msg File "spambayes\storage.pyc", line 304, in _wordinfoset File "shelve.pyc", line 130, in __setitem__ File "bsddb\__init__.pyc", line 120, in __setitem__ bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') Moving and spam training message 'Are you looking for a little spice in your life?' - Training on message 'Are you looking for a little spice in your life?' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 283, in _Invoke_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 288, in _invoke_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 581, in _invokeex_ File "addin.pyc", line 637, in OnClick File "addin.pyc", line 161, in TrainAsSpam File "train.pyc", line 52, in train_message File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 273, in learn File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 384, in _add_msg File "spambayes\storage.pyc", line 304, in _wordinfoset File "shelve.pyc", line 130, in __setitem__ File "bsddb\__init__.pyc", line 120, in __setitem__ bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') Moving and spam training message '[SPAM] suddenly Acr0bat, Ms 0ffice 2OO3; Adobe Photosh0p. XP PR0(sp2), Macr0media, N0rton different again allow' - Training on message '[SPAM] suddenly Acr0bat, Ms 0ffice 2OO3; Adobe Photosh0p. XP PR0(sp2), Macr0media, N0rton different again allow' in 'Junk/Spam? - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 283, in _Invoke_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 288, in _invoke_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 581, in _invokeex_ File "addin.pyc", line 637, in OnClick File "addin.pyc", line 161, in TrainAsSpam File "train.pyc", line 52, in train_message File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 273, in learn File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 384, in _add_msg File "spambayes\storage.pyc", line 304, in _wordinfoset File "shelve.pyc", line 130, in __setitem__ File "bsddb\__init__.pyc", line 120, in __setitem__ bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') Saving configuration -> c:\SpamBayes_Data\default.ini SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Junk/Spam' Moving and spam training message 'About Dish Network' - Training on message 'About Dish Network' in 'Junk/Spam? - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 283, in _Invoke_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 288, in _invoke_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 581, in _invokeex_ File "addin.pyc", line 637, in OnClick File "addin.pyc", line 161, in TrainAsSpam File "train.pyc", line 52, in train_message File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 273, in learn File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 384, in _add_msg File "spambayes\storage.pyc", line 304, in _wordinfoset File "shelve.pyc", line 130, in __setitem__ File "bsddb\__init__.pyc", line 120, in __setitem__ bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') Saving configuration -> c:\SpamBayes_Data\default.ini SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Junk/Spam' Moving and spam training message 'Now you can Fcul jst as hard' - Training on message 'Now you can Fcul jst as hard' in 'Junk for Training/Junk - Save for training - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 283, in _Invoke_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 288, in _invoke_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 581, in _invokeex_ File "addin.pyc", line 637, in OnClick File "addin.pyc", line 161, in TrainAsSpam File "train.pyc", line 52, in train_message File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 273, in learn File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 384, in _add_msg File "spambayes\storage.pyc", line 304, in _wordinfoset File "shelve.pyc", line 130, in __setitem__ File "bsddb\__init__.pyc", line 120, in __setitem__ bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') GetNextPage with current 0 IDD_WIZARD_WELCOME GetNextPage with current 3 IDD_WIZARD_FOLDERS_TRAIN Checked 0 in folder Friends - 0 new entries found. Checked 578 in folder Benz, Mike - 570 new entries found. Checked 504 in folder Builds, etc. - 440 new entries found. Checked 3425 in folder Variances, etc. - 1940 new entries found. Checked 2678 in folder ZZZ - unsorted - 2111 new entries found. Checked 5075 in folder Builds, etc. - 4598 new entries found. Checked 826 in folder Draudt, Vickie - 819 new entries found. Checked 6 in folder txu (distribution) - 6 new entries found. Checked 6679 in folder Variances, etc. - 6190 new entries found. Checked 998 in folder ZZZ - unsorted - 891 new entries found. Checked 765 in folder Weber, Tony - 243 new entries found. Checked 85 in folder Junk - 85 new entries found. Checked 0 in folder Spam - 0 new entries found. Checked 0 in folder Virus Email - 0 new entries found. Message 'Re: srcgetfeature' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message 'Files modified to increase number of xid/cids' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Checked 5112 in folder Junk - Save for training - 5112 new entries found. Message 'Project meeting action item: List of specials' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message 'srcputfeature' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message 'Reduce the expenditures on iinks, effectively' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Unsure' Message 'Re: EMP23891' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message 'Re: EMP23891' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message 'CXEMP24189 (from asmajlov)' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message '[SPAM] FW: Fw: FW: PLEEEEEEASE READ!!!! it was on the news!' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message 'Month-End Timecards due Wednesday' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Unsure' Message 'User-level SPAM control for EMA mail users' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message '[SPAM] photos' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Unsure' Message '[SPAM] Windows XP and Office XP - $80. fittings Bini' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Unsure' Message '[SPAM] Growing company ignored by Wall Street' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' Message 'mb03 - Build.432 na_ora_if errors' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message 'mb03: Inc Build.432 lib 1.7172 complete' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message 'mb03 - Build.432 ots errors' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message 'mb03 - Build.432 cama errors' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message 'mb03 - Build.432 dim errors' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message 'New Daily Photo Thru March 27th' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message 'PSE much better, but system problems and scenario problems still' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message 'How to Upgrade Your Current Remote-Support Solution' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message 'Daily Project Critical Report' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message 'David Pounds' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Unsure' Message 'SMUD Daily XMIT Variance Report' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message 'SMUD Daily OPEN Variance Report' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message 'ONCCFE Hour Estimate Summary' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Unsure' Message 'ONCCFE Variance Summary' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message 'ONCFAT Hour Estimate Summary' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Unsure' Message 'ONCCFE DAILY VARIANCE SUMMARY' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message 'ONCFAT Variance Summary' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message 'ONCFAT DAILY VARIANCE SUMMARY' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message 'ONCSAT Hour Estimate Summary' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Unsure' Message 'ONCSAT Variance Summary' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message 'ONCSAT DAILY VARIANCE SUMMARY' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message '[SPAM] Asset valuation indicates cheap shares won't stay for long' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' Message '[SPAM] Feature pick tO de|iver sudden surge' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' Message 'EMIS email distribution lists' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message 'Water leak' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message 'RE: EMIS email distribution lists' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message '[SPAM] Grab this quick triple at its low' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' Message 'RE: Build_TXUED_38_Build.03232005' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message 'MFONCCFE1041 (from bgarnett)' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message 'MFONCCFE1040 (from bgarnett)' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message 'Air-conditioning problems on 5th Floor.' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' GetNextPage with current 4 IDD_WIZARD_TRAIN GetNextPage with current 1 IDD_WIZARD_FOLDERS_WATCH GetNextPage with current 2 IDD_WIZARD_FOLDERS_REST Wizard Done! Saving wizard changes Python WNDPROC handler failed Traceback (most recent call last): File "dialogs\dlgcore.pyc", line 310, in OnCommand File "dialogs\dlgcore.pyc", line 262, in ApplyHandlingOptionValueError File "dialogs\processors.pyc", line 76, in OnCommand File "dialogs\dialog_map.pyc", line 344, in OnClicked File "dialogs\__init__.pyc", line 67, in ShowWizard File "config_wizard.pyc", line 120, in CommitWizardConfig File "manager.pyc", line 315, in Adopt File "manager.pyc", line 185, in close_bayes File "spambayes\storage.pyc", line 193, in close File "shelve.pyc", line 140, in close File "shelve.pyc", line 158, in sync File "bsddb\__init__.pyc", line 175, in sync bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') Saving configuration -> c:\SpamBayes_Data\default.ini SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Junk/Spam' Message 'Emailing: ms-money-giveway-hoax' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Moving and spam training message 'Capture superb value at superb medimart' - Training on message 'Capture superb value at superb medimart' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 283, in _Invoke_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 288, in _invoke_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 581, in _invokeex_ File "addin.pyc", line 637, in OnClick File "addin.pyc", line 161, in TrainAsSpam File "train.pyc", line 52, in train_message File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 273, in learn File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 384, in _add_msg File "spambayes\storage.pyc", line 304, in _wordinfoset File "shelve.pyc", line 130, in __setitem__ File "bsddb\__init__.pyc", line 120, in __setitem__ bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') Moving and spam training message 'Power your PC with our Software lorraine' - Training on message 'Power your PC with our Software lorraine' in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 283, in _Invoke_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 288, in _invoke_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 581, in _invokeex_ File "addin.pyc", line 637, in OnClick File "addin.pyc", line 161, in TrainAsSpam File "train.pyc", line 52, in train_message File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 273, in learn File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 384, in _add_msg File "spambayes\storage.pyc", line 304, in _wordinfoset File "shelve.pyc", line 130, in __setitem__ File "bsddb\__init__.pyc", line 120, in __setitem__ bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') Recovering to folder 'Inbox' and ham training message 'David Pounds' - Training on message 'David Pounds' in 'Junk/Spam? - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 283, in _Invoke_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 288, in _invoke_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 581, in _invokeex_ File "addin.pyc", line 700, in OnClick File "addin.pyc", line 142, in TrainAsHam File "train.pyc", line 52, in train_message File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 273, in learn File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 384, in _add_msg File "spambayes\storage.pyc", line 304, in _wordinfoset File "shelve.pyc", line 130, in __setitem__ File "bsddb\__init__.pyc", line 120, in __setitem__ bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') Cancelling wizard Saving configuration -> c:\SpamBayes_Data\default.ini SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Junk/Spam' Cancelling wizard Saving configuration -> c:\SpamBayes_Data\default.ini SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Junk/Spam' Recovering to folder 'Inbox' and ham training message 'David Pounds' - Training on message 'David Pounds' in 'Junk/Spam? - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 283, in _Invoke_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 288, in _invoke_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 581, in _invokeex_ File "addin.pyc", line 700, in OnClick File "addin.pyc", line 142, in TrainAsHam File "train.pyc", line 52, in train_message File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 273, in learn File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 384, in _add_msg File "spambayes\storage.pyc", line 304, in _wordinfoset File "shelve.pyc", line 130, in __setitem__ File "bsddb\__init__.pyc", line 120, in __setitem__ bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') Recovering to folder 'Inbox' and ham training message 'David Pounds' - Training on message 'David Pounds' in 'Junk/Spam? - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 283, in _Invoke_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 288, in _invoke_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 581, in _invokeex_ File "addin.pyc", line 700, in OnClick File "addin.pyc", line 142, in TrainAsHam File "train.pyc", line 52, in train_message File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 273, in learn File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 384, in _add_msg File "spambayes\storage.pyc", line 304, in _wordinfoset File "shelve.pyc", line 130, in __setitem__ File "bsddb\__init__.pyc", line 120, in __setitem__ bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') Error checking the latest version Traceback (most recent call last): File "addin.pyc", line 543, in CheckLatestVersion File "spambayes\Version.pyc", line 151, in fetch_latest_dict File "urllib2.pyc", line 129, in urlopen File "urllib2.pyc", line 326, in open File "urllib2.pyc", line 306, in _call_chain File "urllib2.pyc", line 901, in http_open File "urllib2.pyc", line 886, in do_open URLError: ERROR: 'There was an error checking for the latest version\r\nFor specific details on the error, please see the SpamBayes log\r\n\r\nPlease check your internet connection, or try again later' Traceback (most recent call last): File "addin.pyc", line 543, in CheckLatestVersion File "spambayes\Version.pyc", line 151, in fetch_latest_dict File "urllib2.pyc", line 129, in urlopen File "urllib2.pyc", line 326, in open File "urllib2.pyc", line 306, in _call_chain File "urllib2.pyc", line 901, in http_open File "urllib2.pyc", line 886, in do_open URLError: Cancelling wizard Saving configuration -> c:\SpamBayes_Data\default.ini SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Junk/Spam' -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-request@python.org [mailto:spambayes-request@python.org] Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 4:01 AM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: Spambayes Digest, Vol 79, Issue 40 Send Spambayes mailing list submissions to spambayes@python.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to spambayes-request@python.org You can reach the person managing the list at spambayes-owner@python.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Spambayes digest..." Today's Topics: 1. RE: I goofed (Tony Meyer) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:41:54 +1200 From: "Tony Meyer" Subject: RE: [Spambayes] I goofed To: "'bweatherhead'" , Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > I accidentally marked a good "ham" email as "spam" and > sent it to "Junk Mail". How do I get to Junk Mail and correct my > goof? Open your "Junk Mail" folder, select the incorrectly trained message, and click the "Recover from Spam" button in the toolbar. This will both correct the training and move the message back to where it came from. Your "Junk Mail" folder was selected at configuration time - if you didn't change the default, it'll be called "Junk Mail" and be in what Outlook considers the 'main' store (close to where incoming mail comes to by default). You can find out which folder this is by looking at the "Filtering" tab in the SpamBayes Manager (from the SpamBayes button on the toolbar) if necessary. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html End of Spambayes Digest, Vol 79, Issue 40 ***************************************** From angsuman at taragana.com Tue Mar 29 19:31:08 2005 From: angsuman at taragana.com (Angsuman Chakraborty) Date: Tue Mar 29 19:32:36 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Log size nuking my machine Message-ID: Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 28309 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050329/f319165d/attachment-0001.jpe From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Mar 30 01:37:19 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Mar 30 01:37:29 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Log size nuking my machine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > So anyway I installed it as POP3 module. So far so good. > Then suddenly my machine started to crash. I figured that > Spambayes creates a big log file 844MB size! Everytime it > reaches this big my C drive runs out of space and my > machine crashes. This is a problem with 1.0.3. Please upgrade to 1.0.4 and this problem should be fixed. > Is there anyway to disable your log file? Not using the binary, no. If using the source, then yes. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Mar 30 01:41:29 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Mar 30 01:41:33 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Recover and Delete buttons do nothing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > My SpamBayes Outlook plug-in is not processing "Recover..." > or "Delete..." requests. I have tried upgrading to the > latest and greatest, I have tried retraining. [...] > File "bsddb\__init__.pyc", line 120, in __setitem__ > bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal > error, run > database recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') This means that the database is corrupt (a fairly rare occurrence, unless you're doing something odd). When you tried retraining, did you do so from scratch (i.e. tick the "rebuild entire database" box)? That ought to fix this problem. You could manually remove the default_bayes_database.db and default_message_database.db files from the data directory, which would also do it. If you do delete these files and then the database gets corrupted again, please let us know - we are interesting in hearing about any way to replicate this problem. > I am including > the contents of my log file - I could not find the file in my > directories to attach it. What is the default path to it? It's in the Windows temp directory. With XP this is probably '\Documents and Settings\{username}\Local Settings\Temp'. Otherwise try '\Windows\Temp'. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Mar 30 01:59:08 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Mar 30 01:59:23 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes 1.0.4 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I have just this morning downloaded v1.0.4 of SpamBayes Outlook > plugin binary. Unfortunately, when I (re)start Outlook I get the > "SpamBayes could not be initialised" message. The log file is > attached - something to do with python? The plug-in is enabled > in the Outlook COM plugs-in options page. I have restarted, but > to no avail. > > A couple of weeks ago, I tried with v1.0.3, but I couldn't even > get the plug-in to enable in Outlook (although it was listed). > > For your information, I am running Outlook 2000 SR-1 (9.0.0.4527) > under NT 4.00.1381 (SP 6) Unfortunately, it appears that 1.0.3/1.0.4 do not work with NT 4: [ 1115105 ] Binary will not work with NT I believe that the problem is a bug with the pywin32 package, which SpamBayes uses. Although this bug has been fixed in pywin32, there hasn't been a new release of that package for a while, which means that 1.0.3 uses the same version as 1.0.4. When there is a new release available, then SpamBayes will definitely use that. I might look at manually patching the version we use for 1.1a1 so we can at least verify that this is indeed the problem. As far as I know, 1.0.1 will work with NT, however, so for the moment I recommend using that, if possible. (You can monitor the tracker above, or just look for the bug id# in the release notes, to see when we believe it is fixed). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From cathyh at bitbetter.com Wed Mar 30 02:13:59 2005 From: cathyh at bitbetter.com (Cathy Belleville) Date: Wed Mar 30 02:12:03 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Moving SpamBayes Settings to new computer Message-ID: <20050330001202.CE7801E400C@bag.python.org> I've been a happy Spambayes user who has dutifully trained her system (Win XP, Outlook XP) over the past year. Now I've got a new computer (Win XP and Outlook 2003) and I'd like to move the training over to the new machine. I have not yet installed SpamBayes on the new machine. Any pointers on where to find directions on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for a great program! Cathy Belleville A Bit Better Corporation 444 First Street, Suite B Los Altos CA 94022 ph: 650-948-4766 fx: 650-948-4903 email: cathyh@bitbetter.com web: www.bitbetter.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050329/9a24c588/attachment.htm From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Mar 30 02:17:42 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Mar 30 02:17:53 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Moving SpamBayes Settings to new computer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Now I've got a new computer (Win XP and Outlook 2003) and I'd like to > move the training over to the new machine. Please see FAQ 3.6: > I have not yet installed SpamBayes on the new machine. You'll find it easier to avoid problems if you install SpamBayes first, do the configuration (selecting folders, etc), and skip training, and *then* close Outlook and copy the .db files across. (Rather than copying the .db files before the SpamBayes install). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Mar 30 02:46:32 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Mar 30 02:46:37 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Automatic deployment of SpamBayes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Plus I couldn't unpack the > installer file to get to the contents. I don't know what Inno does to build installers, so I don't know if that's possible. You can build everything yourself, if you want to go that route (instructions are in the README-DEVEL.txt file in the source distribution). (Ran across this later, which indicates that maybe it can be done: ) > You mentioned the inno help - I searched both the website and > the local files and couldn't find it. I can't find it on Inno's website either, just in the documentation you get when you install it. So I've put it on our wiki: > The register-outlook-addin.exe seems to work. I installed the > exe installer version, logged in as a different user and ran > the tool - afterwards the user was able to run the config > circle and start the add-in. You can also run the tool with the command line option "HEKY_LOCAL_MACHINE" and it will install for all users, if that was what was wanted. (This doesn't help if it's just a subset of users that need to have it enabled, of course). > It would be great, though, if I could just take an existing > msi - if available - and combine it with an active setup to > install the add-in for any possible user. There isn't a msi at the moment, sorry. There's a feature request that includes creating one: [ 1031959 ] Silent mode for installation But this was closed (by me). Everything that the OP wanted could be done with Inno, so there didn't seem to be much point. If someone wants to contribute a script to create a MSI, I'm happy to work on incorporating it into the build process. I don't know enough to write one myself, though. Ryan Malayter suggested using the MSI package editor to create a MSI: IIRC, a future version of the Python distutils will have a build_msi option (I seem to recall MvL saying this), which we could probably use. That's a while off yet, though (possibly Python 2.5, which is due late 2006 I think). > The worst problem was the fact that our users don't have > administrator rights. This is covered by this feature request: [ 1124409 ] Remove admin registry write requirements for install There was a fair bit of discussion on the spambayes@python.org list recently about whether the admin requirements should be removed or not. ISTM that if they are not required for the install process to work, then we should not require them, and that would avoid problems like this. Others believe that requiring admin rights is good, so that we don't make it easy for people to install software when their admin people don't want them to. No-one really managed to convince anyone of anything new ;) For the moment, the feature request is still open, but I'm not planning to personally work on it until I've done many other things I've got planned. So a kinda of status quo. > I had to use the old Sysinternals' > regmon to find out which HKCR paths were to be opened Part of the feature request (which will be done soon) is to document the current requirement, including the exact keys that are needed. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From angsuman at taragana.com Wed Mar 30 10:07:48 2005 From: angsuman at taragana.com (Angsuman Chakraborty) Date: Wed Mar 30 10:10:43 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Log (944 MB) consuming full space in my C: drive! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- Service not available. Using thread. Loading database... SMTP Listener on port 125 is proxying example.com:25 Listener on port 1110 is proxying example.com:110 User interface url is http://localhost:8880/ Loading database... SMTP Listener on port 125 is proxying example.com:25 Listener on port 1110 is proxying example.com:110 User interface url is http://localhost:8880/ warning: unhandled exception warning: unhandled exception warning: unhandled exception warning: unhandled exception warning: unhandled exception warning: unhandled exception warning: unhandled exception [Repeated Ad-Infinitum] From peter at pcnetsol.com Wed Mar 30 10:13:53 2005 From: peter at pcnetsol.com (peter@pcnetsol.com) Date: Wed Mar 30 10:38:28 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayer hangs my outlook while processing.... Message-ID: Hi, I have 1.0.4 SpamBayes running on Outlook2002 on a Windows2000 workstation. When I start up outlook, it hourglasses for 5-10 minutes. Every time a new e-mail comes in, doesn't matter what I do, it locks up Outlook for that period of time. This is usually 5-30 seconds long. But sometimes longer. Even if I'm writing an e-mail.. it wills top responding for that time period. I read the FAQ, but didn't find anything relating to this. What would help to speed it up and not put me on hold each time? thanks, -Peter -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050330/a19e0558/attachment.htm From samalo2 at email.uky.edu Wed Mar 30 18:42:56 2005 From: samalo2 at email.uky.edu (Malone, Shareese) Date: Wed Mar 30 18:55:03 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Junk suspects Message-ID: <7D1BD77F4206B9468B26D409CA587CFD062DAB10@e2kbe1.ad.uky.edu> My junk suspects has disappeared. How do I find it? Thanks Shareese Malone, CID Interior Design Capital Project Management Division Phone: 859-257-5911 X253 samalo2@email.uky.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050330/f725ff91/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Mar 31 02:43:11 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Mar 31 02:43:28 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Log (944 MB) consuming full space in my C:drive! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Is there any way to prevent SpamBayes from logging? Not using the binary, no. You can run from source and do whatever you like with the log information. > It is consuming all the space in my C: (944 MB) with a > log file which just has the following line repeated > ad-infinitum till it consumes all my hard-disk space! > warning: unhandled exception This is a problem with 1.0.3. Please upgrade to 1.0.4, which should fix this problem. > I want to disable logging, at the least limit the size. > Is there a way? Not without running from source. > Also how can I specify where to store the log file? I > searched through all options in vain! With the binary the log file is always stored in the Windows temp directory. The only way to change where it is is to change the temp directory location. Again, running from source you can do what you like. > READ THIS! (If you want help.) > > This is an automated response to an email message you sent to the > spambayes@python.org mailing list. Please read this message carefully > to see if it answers your question(s). [...] > Please ensure that you have the latest version. As of March 24, 2005, > this is 1.0.4 for both the source and for the binary installer (for > the Outlook plug-in and sb_server). [...] Note the "please read this message carefully", the "please ensure that you have the latest version", and the "1.0.4". :) =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Mar 31 02:44:03 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Mar 31 02:44:17 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Junk suspects In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > My junk suspects has disappeared. How do I find it? Please see FAQ 3.13: =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Mar 31 02:56:35 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Mar 31 02:57:17 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Log (944 MB) consuming full space in my C:drive! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I tried turning it off at the web site. I sent 'remove' to > the list admin, and I sent a message to the unsubscribe > address. You're obviously doing something wrong. I'll send you a message offlist and if you reply to it (proving that you have access to that email address) then I'll manually remove you from the list for you. > Why are you spamming me? I'm not. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From seanaesean at gmail.com Thu Mar 31 04:45:11 2005 From: seanaesean at gmail.com (sean) Date: Thu Mar 31 04:45:02 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] v 1.04 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <424b642b.625e7447.2bc2.2c06@mx.gmail.com> Got it working...just had to enable it in the Help menu. -sean -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 8:58 PM To: 'sean pollock'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] v 1.04 > I just installed the new release, and the button for the > toolbar dropdown list doesn't work. -sean Please send us a copy of your most recent log file (see the Troubleshooting Guide for details). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From angsuman at taragana.com Thu Mar 31 07:57:09 2005 From: angsuman at taragana.com (Angsuman Chakraborty) Date: Thu Mar 31 07:58:37 2005 Subject: [unclassified] RE: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Log (944 MB) consuming full space in my C:drive! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks for your help. Angsuman Simple Thoughts -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 6:13 AM To: 'Angsuman Chakraborty'; spambayes@python.org Subject: [unclassified] RE: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Log (944 MB) consuming full space in my C:drive! > Is there any way to prevent SpamBayes from logging? Not using the binary, no. You can run from source and do whatever you like with the log information. > It is consuming all the space in my C: (944 MB) with a > log file which just has the following line repeated > ad-infinitum till it consumes all my hard-disk space! > warning: unhandled exception This is a problem with 1.0.3. Please upgrade to 1.0.4, which should fix this problem. > I want to disable logging, at the least limit the size. > Is there a way? Not without running from source. > Also how can I specify where to store the log file? I > searched through all options in vain! With the binary the log file is always stored in the Windows temp directory. The only way to change where it is is to change the temp directory location. Again, running from source you can do what you like. > READ THIS! (If you want help.) > > This is an automated response to an email message you sent to the > spambayes@python.org mailing list. Please read this message carefully > to see if it answers your question(s). [...] > Please ensure that you have the latest version. As of March 24, 2005, > this is 1.0.4 for both the source and for the binary installer (for > the Outlook plug-in and sb_server). [...] Note the "please read this message carefully", the "please ensure that you have the latest version", and the "1.0.4". :) =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From inn at countrysunshine.com Thu Mar 31 15:41:10 2005 From: inn at countrysunshine.com (Country Sunshine) Date: Thu Mar 31 15:41:31 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] inbox to junk Message-ID: <000701c535f7$54572a40$4a75a8c0@INN> my spam bays sorts incoming mail and starts moving it to junk or suspects but when the list is reviewed the junk & suspect mail disappears. for some reason it doesn't end up in either of these mailboxes. help? gary -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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However we have already tried removing outcmd.dat, as well as all other troubleshooting steps we could find on spambayes' site. Do you have any suggestions? Is this caused by having a different version of office (xp) and outlook (2003)? If so, we can probably convince our client to upgrade. Many thanks!! --Emily -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050331/327f90dc/attachment.html From interdoc at interdoc1.com Thu Mar 31 17:54:09 2005 From: interdoc at interdoc1.com (InterDoc) Date: Thu Mar 31 17:52:24 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Will not filter automatically Message-ID: <000801c53609$e21f8810$6402a8c0@geraldxp> I have Spambayes installed and it filters fine when I click on "Filter messages..." However, it won't filter on it's own. Gerald. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050331/c7571dae/attachment.html From emilyscox at hotmail.com Thu Mar 31 18:01:34 2005 From: emilyscox at hotmail.com (Emily Cox) Date: Thu Mar 31 18:01:39 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Buttons crash Outlook 2003... Message-ID: > I just upgraded to OL2003. I just let it update over my > old Outlook XP and I did not remove Spambayes before I > did the upgrade. OL2003 works fine until I push a Spambayes > button. If I attempt to push the Spambayes button that would > normally get me to the Spambayes Manager button... CRASH!!! > If I push the "delete as spam" button, OL2003 crashes, but > on restart, I notice that it did move the message to the Junk > email folder. I've attempted to uninstall Spambayes (including > the data store folder) and then reinstall but so far no luck. We have an identical problem to what is already listed. However we have already tried removing outcmd.dat, as well as all other troubleshooting steps we could find on spambayes' site. Do you have any suggestions? Is this caused by having a different version of office (xp) and outlook (2003)? If so, we can probably convince our client to upgrade. Many thanks!! --Emily -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050331/5e2d4d5f/attachment.htm From emilyscox at hotmail.com Thu Mar 31 18:03:37 2005 From: emilyscox at hotmail.com (Emily Cox) Date: Thu Mar 31 18:03:40 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Buttons crash Outlook 2003... Message-ID: > I just upgraded to OL2003. I just let it update over my > old Outlook XP and I did not remove Spambayes before I > did the upgrade. OL2003 works fine until I push a Spambayes > button. If I attempt to push the Spambayes button that would > normally get me to the Spambayes Manager button... CRASH!!! > If I push the "delete as spam" button, OL2003 crashes, but > on restart, I notice that it did move the message to the Junk > email folder. I've attempted to uninstall Spambayes (including > the data store folder) and then reinstall but so far no luck. We have an identical problem to what is already listed. However we have already tried removing outcmd.dat, as well as all other troubleshooting steps we could find on spambayes' site. Do you have any suggestions? Is this caused by having a different version of office (xp) and outlook (2003)? If so, we can probably convince our client to upgrade. Many thanks!! --Emily -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050331/5b70d834/attachment.html