From imflying at comcast.net Tue Feb 1 12:07:53 2005 From: imflying at comcast.net (Gil Brandenburg) Date: Tue Feb 1 12:07:53 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook shutdown problem Message-ID: <20050201110751.5557E1E4004@bag.python.org> I've discovered a small problem that I think I've narrowed down to the Spambayes add-in for Outlook. I'm using Outlook 2003. For the record, I had trouble when I upgraded to Outlook 2003 from Outlook XP (2002). I ended up having to uninstall both Spambayes and Outlook and reinstall, but I thought that fixed my problems. It seems there is one small problem left. I use a program called SynchPST to keep my mail in synch between my laptop and my home computer. When I start SynchPST, I notice it opens in task manager along with Outlook. I can then synch my pst files but when I close SynchPST, Outlook continues to run in Task Manager. Through some troubleshooting with the developer of SynchPST, I've discovered that this only happens if the Spambayes add-in is loaded. If the Spambayes add-in is not loaded, both SynchPST and Outlook will close as they should. Does anyone have an idea why Outlook would hang like this with Spambayes add-in enabled? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.302 / Virus Database: 265.8.2 - Release Date: 01/28/2005 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050201/31550dff/attachment.htm From dongordon at adelphia.net Tue Feb 1 21:41:39 2005 From: dongordon at adelphia.net (Don Gordon) Date: Tue Feb 1 21:42:03 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy: [Cannot install] Message-ID: <41FFE983.6050001@adelphia.net> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- Service not available. Using thread. Loading database... User interface url is http://localhost:8880/ Loading database... Loading database... Loading database... Listener on port 110 is proxying mail.adelphia.net:110 Loading database... Listener on port 110 is proxying mail.adelphia.net:110 Loading database... Listener on port 110 is proxying mail.adelphia.net:110 User interface url is http://localhost:8880/ Loading database... Listener on port 110 is proxying mail.adelphia.net:110 User interface url is http://localhost:8880/ Loading database... SMTP Listener on port 25 is proxying mail.adelphia.net:25 Listener on port 110 is proxying mail.adelphia.net:110 From angelarowe1 at cox.net Wed Feb 2 00:34:10 2005 From: angelarowe1 at cox.net (Angie Rowe) Date: Wed Feb 2 00:34:13 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Un-doing a sender that I accidentally spammed Message-ID: <036d01c508b6$882bd050$0300a8c0@ROWE> Hi- I inadvertently "spammed" two of my friends and want to take them off the "list" of senders to send straight to spam. How do I enter these emails as "safe" now that I've trained them to go to "spam"? Thanks-- Angie Rowe angelarowe1@cox.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050201/39b36d16/attachment.htm From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Feb 2 00:41:00 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Feb 2 00:41:06 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Un-doing a sender that I accidentally spammed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This assumes you are using Outlook and the Outlook plug-in. If that is not the case, please let us know what you are using, and we'll give you a new answer. > I inadvertently "spammed" two of my friends and want to > take them off the "list" of senders to send straight to > spam. FWIW, that isn't how SpamBayes works - it doesn't have a list of senders at all. The website explains how it does work, if you are interested. However, it is a good idea to correct any incorrect training. > How do I enter these emails as "safe" now that I've trained > them to go to "spam"? Open up your spam (Junk Mail) folder in Outlook, find the messages that were incorrectly trained, select them, and click the "Recover from Spam" button on the toolbar. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Feb 2 02:06:40 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Feb 2 02:07:22 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy: [Cannot install] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I am using Netscape 7.3 mail, XP, with a broadband ISP. > > Within my Netscape Mail and Newsgroup Account Settings my > settings are: > > My Account: -- dongordon@adelphia.net: > Account name: dongordon@adelphia.net > Your name: Don Gordon > Email address: dongordon@adelphia.net > > Server Settings: > Server name: mail.adelphia. You need to change your settings in Netscape mail to connect to "localhost" instead of mail.adelphia.net. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Feb 2 02:10:05 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Feb 2 02:10:11 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook shutdown problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I've discovered a small problem that I think I've narrowed down to the > Spambayes add-in for Outlook. I'm using Outlook 2003. [...] > I use a program called SynchPST to keep my mail in synch between my laptop > and my home computer. When I start SynchPST, I notice it opens in task > manager along with Outlook. I can then synch my pst files but when I close > SynchPST, Outlook continues to run in Task Manager. Through some > troubleshooting with the developer of SynchPST, I've discovered that this > only happens if the Spambayes add-in is loaded. If the Spambayes add-in is > not loaded, both SynchPST and Outlook will close as they should. Does > anyone have an idea why Outlook would hang like this with Spambayes add-in > enabled? This sounds a lot like this bug: [ 1103976 ] Outlook.exe will not terminate when launched via mailto If that's the case, then Kenny will look into when he can (I don't have Outlook 2003, so can do nothing about it myself). It does sound suspiciously like an Outlook bug to me, though. Feel free to add comments to that tracker. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Feb 2 02:13:42 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Feb 2 02:13:49 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] SPAM Automatic filtering In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I have recently noticed that incoming emails in my INBOX were > not being automatically filtered to my JUNK Mail folders as before. There are a lot of errors in the log that look like: > MsgStoreException: Exception 0x-7ff8fffb (MAPI_E_NO_ACCESS): Access is denied. Can you think of any reason why you wouldn't have access to the folder? Is this mail on an Exchange server, Hotmail, IMAP, or a local Personal Folders (pst) file? =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Feb 2 03:18:40 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Feb 2 03:18:49 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Toolbars don't work In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > This is the same issue that I'm having with both 1.02 and > 1.03 (thus, it wasn't the DLL issue). 1.01 works fine. Have you checked that Outlook hasn't disabled the plug-in? (Help->About Microsoft Outlook->Disabled Items). > My system configuration is WinNT 4.0 SP 6a plus hotfixes and > Microsoft Outlook 2002 SP 3 plus hotfixes. Thanks for this - it helps to narrow down to a particular set of versions. (NT is notoriously problematic, so it could be specific to that, maybe). > I set the "log file verbosity" to 3 (I don't know what the > maximum value is; I can't find that documented) I'm not sure if Mark had a maximum value in mind ;) - certainly 9 would catch every print there is at the moment. > and > re-installed 1.03, and this is all that shows up: > Registered: SpamBayes.OutlookAddin > Registration complete. > Additional verbosity won't help in this case. This is the installation/registration log - if the addin had managed to start at all, then it would have moved this aside and there would be another one. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Feb 2 03:21:30 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Feb 2 03:21:39 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Duplicate messages handled differently...? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I do not believe that it is a rule problem: > > I have only one rule, and that moves messages from a particular > address to their own folder. None of the messages with which I have > had problems have that return address. Ok, we can rule that out. > But, you mentioned another instance of SpamBayes: > > I have two systems that read the same Outlook PST file (using Public > Outlook). Each of those systems had an instance of SpamBayes. On the > local machine SpamBayes sorted incoming messages, and it was on the > local machine that I had the problem described below. > > The remote machine's instance of SpamBayes was used (only very rarely) > to train on messages that were incorrectly sorted on the local > machine. > > Though I understand nothing about the mechanism of potential > interference, there is that possibility. These two aren't accessing the same SpamBayes database at the same time are they? This wouldn't result in this problem, but could lead to database corruption. > I have left SpamBayes on the remote machine, but have disabled it by > un-checking. > > I will run that way to see if it eliminates the problem I have been > having. I'm not sure what might be happening, but this certainly does sound like a good candidate for the cause of the problem. You could have a look at the SpamBayes log for the remote machine and see if it is moving any messages. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Feb 2 04:25:53 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Feb 2 04:25:58 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] IMAP problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I guess the 1.1 sb_imapfilter is part of the "CVS" version? > (I've no idea what that means, but will make the time to research > it out.) CVS is (in a nutshell) a version control system that lets a group of developers work on the same code at the same time. It can have 'branches' of the code, which is a convenient way to manage developing multiple versions at the same time. So at the moment there is a "1.0.x" branch, which is what gets made into the 1.0.x releases, and there is the "HEAD" (default) branch, which is where the main development takes place. When 1.1 is released, it will be based on the code in CVS Head. To get hold of the code in CVS, follow the instructions here: (Actually, IMO, the easiest way with Windows is to get TortoiseCVS and then just paste in the CVSROOT from the above page). > OK, here's an edited screenscrape of 6 messages being > processed, all of which were both copied to the SUSPECT or UNSURE > folders (and left in the INBOX showing the flag for deletion status). > Further copies of all six were also left in the INBOX without the > delete flag. > > I left only the "append" section of the screen text for each message > processed, except for the last one in case there's something > relevant there. Was something meant to be attached here? I didn't get anything... >> If it all appears as it should, then maybe we should try STORE'ing >> flags for a message manually, and seeing if that works. > > If you think we should try that, please let me know how, I've > never chatted directly with an IMAP server . :) It's not that tricky if you know the commands. Basically you open up a command prompt (DOS prompt, command window, shell, or whatever you like to call it) and type "telnet imap.server.address 143" then various commands. (e.g. "login username password", "select inbox", etc). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Feb 2 04:28:42 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Feb 2 04:28:47 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] 1.0.1 binary + Outlook 2003 SP1 run error In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Just out of > interest I tried installing Python and the source code > version instead. Results were exactly the same, except for > the .DLL name of the plugin being different. Hmmm...that's interesting. If you open PythonWin before starting Outlook and open up the trace collector (Tools menu) and then open Outlook (with SpamBayes enabled), does anything at all get printed to the collector? I suspect that the answer will be no, which pretty much means that the plug-in code isn't starting at all. Out of curiousity, do you have any other Outlook plug-ins? =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From hans at pobox.com Wed Feb 2 10:08:23 2005 From: hans at pobox.com (Hans Henderson) Date: Wed Feb 2 10:09:06 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] IMAP problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Was something meant to be attached here? I didn't get anything... Sorry 'bout that, brainfart Here's the bottom of a screenscrape from just three messages getting processed, all of which were left in INBOX as well as being copied to SUSPECT. Note that in the INBOX they were flagged as Seen, if that helps at all.: 02:51.25 < * 0 RECENT 02:51.25 < * FLAGS (\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered) 02:51.28 < * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1096726907] UID Validity 02:51.28 < * OK [UIDNEXT 11789] Predicted next UID 02:51.28 < * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered)] Settable me ssage flags 02:51.28 < HELB6 OK [READ-WRITE] SELECT completed. 02:51.28 > HELB7 SELECT "Spambayes/SB_unsure" 02:51.28 < * 0 EXISTS 02:51.28 < * 0 RECENT 02:51.28 < * FLAGS (\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered) 02:51.28 < * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1096914313] UID Validity 02:51.31 < * OK [UIDNEXT 1876] Predicted next UID 02:51.31 < * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered)] Settable me ssage flags 02:51.31 < HELB7 OK [READ-WRITE] SELECT completed. 02:51.31 > HELB8 SELECT INBOX 02:51.31 < * 3 EXISTS 02:51.31 < * 0 RECENT 02:51.31 < * FLAGS (\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered) 02:51.31 < * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1095696076] UID Validity 02:51.31 < * OK [UIDNEXT 47328] Predicted next UID 02:51.31 < * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered)] Settable me ssage flags 02:51.31 < HELB8 OK [READ-WRITE] SELECT completed. 02:51.34 > HELB9 UID SEARCH UNDELETED 02:51.34 < * SEARCH 47325 47326 47327 02:51.34 < HELB9 OK SEARCH complete. 02:51.34 > HELB10 UID FETCH 47325 RFC822.HEADER 02:51.36 < * 1 FETCH (UID 47325 RFC822.HEADER {1683} 02:51.36 read literal size 1683 02:51.36 < ) 02:51.36 < HELB10 OK UID FETCH complete. 02:51.36 > HELB11 UID FETCH 47325 (BODY.PEEK[]) 02:51.36 < * 1 FETCH (UID 47325 BODY[] {2218} 02:51.36 read literal size 2218 02:51.36 < ) 02:51.36 < HELB11 OK UID FETCH complete. * 02:51.36 > HELB12 UID FETCH 47325 (FLAGS INTERNALDATE) 02:51.37 < * 1 FETCH (UID 47325 FLAGS () INTERNALDATE " 2-Feb-2005 09:35:48 +0 100") 02:51.37 < HELB12 OK UID FETCH complete. 02:51.42 > HELB13 APPEND INBOX " 2-Feb-2005 09:35:48 +0700" {2264} 02:51.42 < + Ready to receive 2264 bytes 02:51.42 write literal size 2264 02:51.44 < * 4 EXISTS 02:51.44 < * OK [UIDNEXT 47329] Predicted next UID 02:51.44 < HELB13 OK APPEND complete. 02:51.44 > HELB14 UID STORE 47325 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted \Seen) 02:51.44 < HELB14 OK UID STORE complete. 02:51.44 untagged responses dump: EXISTS: "3" "4" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered)" READ-WRITE: "" UIDNEXT: "47328" "47329" FLAGS: "(\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered)" UIDVALIDITY: "1095696076" RECENT: "0" 02:51.44 > HELB15 NOOP 02:51.45 < HELB15 OK NOOP complete. 02:51.45 > HELB16 UID SEARCH (UNDELETED HEADER X-Spambayes-MailId "1107334971" ) 02:51.45 < * SEARCH 02:51.45 < HELB16 OK SEARCH complete. 02:51.45 > HELB17 UID SEARCH RECENT 02:51.45 < * SEARCH 02:51.45 < HELB17 OK SEARCH complete. 02:51.45 > HELB18 UID SEARCH ALL 02:51.45 < * SEARCH 47325 47326 47327 47328 02:51.48 < HELB18 OK SEARCH complete. . 02:51.56 > HELB19 UID FETCH 47328 (FLAGS INTERNALDATE) 02:51.56 < * 4 FETCH (UID 47328 FLAGS () INTERNALDATE " 2-Feb-2005 09:35:48 +0 100") 02:51.56 < HELB19 OK UID FETCH complete. 02:51.58 > HELB20 APPEND "Spambayes/SB_suspect" " 2-Feb-2005 09:35:48 +0700" { 3622} 02:51.58 < + Ready to receive 3622 bytes 02:51.58 write literal size 3622 02:51.58 < HELB20 OK APPEND complete. 02:51.58 > HELB21 UID STORE 47328 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted \Seen) 02:51.58 < HELB21 OK UID STORE complete. 02:51.58 untagged responses dump: EXISTS: "3" "4" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered)" READ-WRITE: "" UIDNEXT: "47328" "47329" FLAGS: "(\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered)" UIDVALIDITY: "1095696076" RECENT: "0" 02:51.58 > HELB22 NOOP 02:51.59 < HELB22 OK NOOP complete. 02:51.59 > HELB23 SELECT "Spambayes/SB_suspect" 02:51.59 < * 1 EXISTS 02:51.59 < * 0 RECENT 02:51.59 < * FLAGS (\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered) 02:51.59 < * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1096726907] UID Validity 02:51.61 < * OK [UIDNEXT 11790] Predicted next UID 02:51.61 < * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered)] Settable me ssage flags 02:51.61 < HELB23 OK [READ-WRITE] SELECT completed. 02:51.61 > HELB24 UID SEARCH (UNDELETED HEADER X-Spambayes-MailId "1107334971" ) 02:51.62 < * SEARCH 02:51.62 < HELB24 OK SEARCH complete. 02:51.62 > HELB25 UID SEARCH RECENT 02:51.62 < * SEARCH 02:51.62 < HELB25 OK SEARCH complete. 02:51.62 > HELB26 UID SEARCH ALL 02:51.62 < * SEARCH 11789 02:51.62 < HELB26 OK SEARCH complete. 02:51.66 > HELB27 SELECT INBOX 02:51.66 < * 4 EXISTS 02:51.66 < * 0 RECENT 02:51.66 < * FLAGS (\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered) 02:51.66 < * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1095696076] UID Validity 02:51.66 < * OK [UIDNEXT 47329] Predicted next UID 02:51.66 < * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered)] Settable me ssage flags 02:51.66 < HELB27 OK [READ-WRITE] SELECT completed. 02:51.66 > HELB28 UID FETCH 47326 RFC822.HEADER 02:51.66 < * 2 FETCH (UID 47326 RFC822.HEADER {1424} 02:51.66 read literal size 1424 02:51.66 < ) 02:51.69 < HELB28 OK UID FETCH complete. 02:51.69 > HELB29 UID FETCH 47326 (BODY.PEEK[]) 02:51.69 < * 2 FETCH (UID 47326 BODY[] {9510} 02:51.69 read literal size 9510 02:51.69 < ) 02:51.69 < HELB29 OK UID FETCH complete. * 02:51.69 > HELB30 UID FETCH 47326 (FLAGS INTERNALDATE) 02:51.69 < * 2 FETCH (UID 47326 FLAGS () INTERNALDATE " 2-Feb-2005 04:48:09 -0 400") 02:51.69 < HELB30 OK UID FETCH complete. 02:51.70 > HELB31 APPEND INBOX " 2-Feb-2005 04:48:09 +0700" {9539} 02:51.70 < + Ready to receive 9539 bytes 02:51.70 write literal size 9539 02:51.70 < * 5 EXISTS 02:51.70 < * OK [UIDNEXT 47330] Predicted next UID 02:51.70 < HELB31 OK APPEND complete. 02:51.70 > HELB32 UID STORE 47326 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted \Seen) 02:51.72 < HELB32 OK UID STORE complete. 02:51.72 untagged responses dump: EXISTS: "4" "5" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered)" READ-WRITE: "" UIDNEXT: "47329" "47330" FLAGS: "(\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered)" UIDVALIDITY: "1095696076" RECENT: "0" 02:51.73 > HELB33 NOOP 02:51.73 < HELB33 OK NOOP complete. 02:51.73 > HELB34 UID SEARCH (UNDELETED HEADER X-Spambayes-MailId "1107334971- 2") 02:51.75 < * SEARCH 02:51.75 < HELB34 OK SEARCH complete. 02:51.75 > HELB35 UID SEARCH RECENT 02:51.75 < * SEARCH 02:51.75 < HELB35 OK SEARCH complete. 02:51.75 > HELB36 UID SEARCH ALL 02:51.75 < * SEARCH 47325 47326 47327 47328 47329 02:51.75 < HELB36 OK SEARCH complete. . 02:51.89 > HELB37 UID FETCH 47329 (FLAGS INTERNALDATE) 02:51.89 < * 5 FETCH (UID 47329 FLAGS () INTERNALDATE " 2-Feb-2005 04:48:09 -0 400") 02:51.89 < HELB37 OK UID FETCH complete. 02:51.91 > HELB38 APPEND "Spambayes/SB_suspect" " 2-Feb-2005 04:48:09 +0700" { 12486} 02:51.91 < + Ready to receive 12486 bytes 02:51.91 write literal size 12486 02:51.92 < HELB38 OK APPEND complete. 02:51.92 > HELB39 UID STORE 47329 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted \Seen) 02:51.92 < HELB39 OK UID STORE complete. 02:51.92 untagged responses dump: EXISTS: "4" "5" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered)" READ-WRITE: "" UIDNEXT: "47329" "47330" FLAGS: "(\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered)" UIDVALIDITY: "1095696076" RECENT: "0" 02:51.92 > HELB40 NOOP 02:51.92 < HELB40 OK NOOP complete. 02:51.92 > HELB41 SELECT "Spambayes/SB_suspect" 02:51.94 < * 2 EXISTS 02:51.94 < * 0 RECENT 02:51.94 < * FLAGS (\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered) 02:51.94 < * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1096726907] UID Validity 02:51.94 < * OK [UIDNEXT 11791] Predicted next UID 02:51.94 < * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered)] Settable me ssage flags 02:51.95 < HELB41 OK [READ-WRITE] SELECT completed. 02:51.95 > HELB42 UID SEARCH (UNDELETED HEADER X-Spambayes-MailId "1107334971- 2") 02:51.95 < * SEARCH 02:51.95 < HELB42 OK SEARCH complete. 02:51.95 > HELB43 UID SEARCH RECENT 02:51.95 < * SEARCH 02:51.95 < HELB43 OK SEARCH complete. 02:51.95 > HELB44 UID SEARCH ALL 02:51.95 < * SEARCH 11789 11790 02:51.98 < HELB44 OK SEARCH complete. 02:51.98 > HELB45 SELECT INBOX 02:51.98 < * 5 EXISTS 02:51.98 < * 0 RECENT 02:51.98 < * FLAGS (\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered) 02:51.98 < * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1095696076] UID Validity 02:51.98 < * OK [UIDNEXT 47330] Predicted next UID 02:51.98 < * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered)] Settable me ssage flags 02:51.98 < HELB45 OK [READ-WRITE] SELECT completed. 02:51.98 > HELB46 UID FETCH 47327 RFC822.HEADER 02:52.01 < * 3 FETCH (UID 47327 RFC822.HEADER {1507} 02:52.01 read literal size 1507 02:52.01 < ) 02:52.01 < HELB46 OK UID FETCH complete. 02:52.01 > HELB47 UID FETCH 47327 (BODY.PEEK[]) 02:52.01 < * 3 FETCH (UID 47327 BODY[] {2083} 02:52.01 read literal size 2083 02:52.01 < ) 02:52.01 < HELB47 OK UID FETCH complete. * 02:52.03 > HELB48 UID FETCH 47327 (FLAGS INTERNALDATE) 02:52.03 < * 3 FETCH (UID 47327 FLAGS () INTERNALDATE " 2-Feb-2005 00:48:52 -0 800") 02:52.03 < HELB48 OK UID FETCH complete. 02:52.03 > HELB49 APPEND INBOX " 2-Feb-2005 00:48:52 +0700" {2121} 02:52.03 < + Ready to receive 2121 bytes 02:52.03 write literal size 2121 02:52.03 < * 6 EXISTS 02:52.03 < * OK [UIDNEXT 47331] Predicted next UID 02:52.03 < HELB49 OK APPEND complete. 02:52.05 > HELB50 UID STORE 47327 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted \Seen) 02:52.05 < HELB50 OK UID STORE complete. 02:52.05 untagged responses dump: EXISTS: "5" "6" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered)" READ-WRITE: "" UIDNEXT: "47330" "47331" FLAGS: "(\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered)" UIDVALIDITY: "1095696076" RECENT: "0" 02:52.08 > HELB51 NOOP 02:52.08 < HELB51 OK NOOP complete. 02:52.08 > HELB52 UID SEARCH (UNDELETED HEADER X-Spambayes-MailId "1107334972" ) 02:52.08 < * SEARCH 02:52.08 < HELB52 OK SEARCH complete. 02:52.08 > HELB53 UID SEARCH RECENT 02:52.08 < * SEARCH 02:52.08 < HELB53 OK SEARCH complete. 02:52.08 > HELB54 UID SEARCH ALL 02:52.11 < * SEARCH 47325 47326 47327 47328 47329 47330 02:52.11 < HELB54 OK SEARCH complete. . 02:52.17 > HELB55 UID FETCH 47330 (FLAGS INTERNALDATE) 02:52.17 < * 6 FETCH (UID 47330 FLAGS () INTERNALDATE " 2-Feb-2005 00:48:52 -0 800") 02:52.17 < HELB55 OK UID FETCH complete. 02:52.19 > HELB56 APPEND "Spambayes/SB_suspect" " 2-Feb-2005 00:48:52 +0700" { 3513} 02:52.19 < + Ready to receive 3513 bytes 02:52.19 write literal size 3513 02:52.19 < HELB56 OK APPEND complete. 02:52.19 > HELB57 UID STORE 47330 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted \Seen) 02:52.19 < HELB57 OK UID STORE complete. 02:52.19 untagged responses dump: EXISTS: "5" "6" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered)" READ-WRITE: "" UIDNEXT: "47330" "47331" FLAGS: "(\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered)" UIDVALIDITY: "1095696076" RECENT: "0" 02:52.19 > HELB58 NOOP 02:52.20 < HELB58 OK NOOP complete. 02:52.20 > HELB59 SELECT "Spambayes/SB_suspect" 02:52.20 < * 3 EXISTS 02:52.20 < * 0 RECENT 02:52.20 < * FLAGS (\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered) 02:52.20 < * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1096726907] UID Validity 02:52.20 < * OK [UIDNEXT 11792] Predicted next UID 02:52.23 < * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered)] Settable me ssage flags 02:52.23 < HELB59 OK [READ-WRITE] SELECT completed. 02:52.23 > HELB60 UID SEARCH (UNDELETED HEADER X-Spambayes-MailId "1107334972" ) 02:52.23 < * SEARCH 02:52.23 < HELB60 OK SEARCH complete. 02:52.23 > HELB61 UID SEARCH RECENT 02:52.23 < * SEARCH 02:52.23 < HELB61 OK SEARCH complete. 02:52.23 > HELB62 UID SEARCH ALL 02:52.25 < * SEARCH 11789 11790 11791 02:52.25 < HELB62 OK SEARCH complete. Classified 0 ham, 3 spam, and 0 unsure. Classifying took 0.9990 seconds. 02:52.25 > HELB63 LOGOUT 02:52.25 < * BYE IMAP4rev1 server terminating connection. 02:52.25 BYE response: IMAP4rev1 server terminating connection. 02:52.25 < HELB63 OK LOGOUT completed. From rols at wanadoo.nl Wed Feb 2 14:22:24 2005 From: rols at wanadoo.nl (Roland Hiemstra) Date: Wed Feb 2 14:22:25 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Error starting SB server Message-ID: <000901c5092a$3bb63340$3fa89c52@dgmrbbo6p085z1> Hi all, I'm having trouble starting the sb_server, sb_tray. This is most likely my fault... i changed the data directory but to a non existent and most likely an invalid pathname (typo :). I have uninstalled and reinstalled but no luck so far. Have also been searching the registry for relevant settings but i'm probably missing somthing. Inlcuded is the log file. SpamBayesServer1.log : Traceback (most recent call last): File "pop3proxy_tray.py", line 100, in ? File "sb_server.pyc", line 104, in ? File "spambayes\message.pyc", line 211, in ? File "spambayes\message.pyc", line 176, in __init__ File "spambayes\message.pyc", line 180, in load File "spambayes\dbmstorage.pyc", line 65, in open File "spambayes\dbmstorage.pyc", line 38, in open_best File "spambayes\dbmstorage.pyc", line 20, in open_dbhash File "bsddb\__init__.pyc", line 293, in hashopen bsddb._db.DBNoSuchFileError: (2, 'No such file or directory') Exception exceptions.AttributeError: "'MessageInfoDB' object has no attribute 'db'" in > ignored Otherwise i'm running WinXP SP2 with all latest patches and updates are installed. Using SB v1.03. I hope you can give me some idea of what i could try next (i'm guessing that resetting the data directory to the default is the solution). Thanks, Roland -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050202/b728ade6/attachment.html From dbillman at cincom.com Tue Feb 1 21:46:17 2005 From: dbillman at cincom.com (Billman, Dave) Date: Wed Feb 2 16:30:50 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Running Spambayes 1.0.3 on Windows NT Message-ID: <6418CC03D0FB1943A464E1FEFB3ED46B34AF99@im01.cincom.com> I am running Window NT 1.0 (Build 1381, Service Pack 6) and Outlook 2000 SR-1 (9.0.0.3821). I am trying to install Spambayes 1.0.3 The installation seemed to go OK. Here is the only log file I have..... Registered: SpamBayes.OutlookAddin Registration complete. When I start OUTLOOK, the Spambayes Addin does not load. I reviewed the troubleshooting html page. I tried to see if the addin is enabled (going to Tools->Options->Other->Advanced-COM Add-Ins) The Spambayes was there but not checked. I checked it and got out.. When I went back in it was still unselected. There is action to do for Outlook XP/2002/2003 but nothing for 2000. Can anyone please help me. I was running version 1.0.1. I completely uninstalled that version and deleted any files that were named Spamb*.* that were left after the uninstall. Thank you, David Billman -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050201/ce6d1d97/attachment.htm From dbillman at cincom.com Wed Feb 2 17:20:27 2005 From: dbillman at cincom.com (Billman, Dave) Date: Wed Feb 2 17:20:30 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Running Spambayes 1.0.3 on Windows NT Message-ID: <6418CC03D0FB1943A464E1FEFB3ED46B34AFAB@im01.cincom.com> I'm not sure if this got posted or bounced. I apologize if already got posted. I am running Window NT 1.0 (Build 1381, Service Pack 6) and Outlook 2000 SR-1 (9.0.0.3821). I am trying to install Spambayes 1.0.3 The installation seemed to go OK. Here is the only log file I have..... Registered: SpamBayes.OutlookAddin Registration complete. When I start OUTLOOK, the Spambayes Addin does not load. I reviewed the troubleshooting html page. I tried to see if the addin is enabled (going to Tools->Options->Other->Advanced-COM Add-Ins) The Spambayes was there but not checked. I checked it and got out.. When I went back in it was still unselected. There is action to do for Outlook XP/2002/2003 but nothing for 2000. Can anyone please help me. I was running version 1.0.1. I completely uninstalled that version and deleted any files that were named Spamb*.* that were left after the uninstall. Thank you, David Billman -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050202/0e9c01be/attachment.htm From m.g.ross at herts.ac.uk Wed Feb 2 17:23:49 2005 From: m.g.ross at herts.ac.uk (Matt Ross) Date: Wed Feb 2 17:28:29 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] 1.0.1 binary + Outlook 2003 SP1 run error In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > Just out of > > interest I tried installing Python and the source code version > > instead. Results were exactly the same, except for the .DLL name of > > the plugin being different. > > Hmmm...that's interesting. If you open PythonWin before > starting Outlook and open up the trace collector (Tools menu) > and then open Outlook (with SpamBayes enabled), does anything > at all get printed to the collector? > > I suspect that the answer will be no, which pretty much means > that the plug-in code isn't starting at all. Out of > curiousity, do you have any other Outlook plug-ins? No output as you predicted. On my old PC where it works I have a plugin called NoHTML installed that converts HTML e-mail messages to plaintext. On the new PC whether I have that plugin installed or not it still crashes with Spambayes loaded. Norton AntiVirus 2003 also has its hooks in Outlook but whether that's installed or not also makes no difference. Over the past few days I had to completely reinstall the new PC from scratch [overclocking experiment gone wrong] so I had a completely fresh setup to try again. XP Pro with SP2 integrated, then all the Windows Updates. Then I installed Office 2003, followed by Office Updates to take it past SP1. Next was Spambayes binary. Load up Outlook and it still crashes in exactly the same manner. When I tried to load PythonWin, Windows killed the process because of the DEP security on my Athlon64 CPU and I had to allow Windows to accept it as a safe application. This did not affect Spambayes crashing but I'm wondering if the DEP is interfering with Spambayes somehow? Regards, Matt From seant at iname.com Wed Feb 2 17:38:49 2005 From: seant at iname.com (Sean True) Date: Wed Feb 2 17:38:49 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] 1.0.1 binary + Outlook 2003 SP1 run error In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050202163847.C98D21E4003@bag.python.org> I have independent confirmation that there are issues with DEP and Outlook with a Spambayes based plugin. In that case, listing Outlook as a safe application on an Athlon 64 "solved" the problem. -- Sean > Over the past few days I had to completely reinstall the new > PC from scratch > [overclocking experiment gone wrong] so I had a completely > fresh setup to > try again. XP Pro with SP2 integrated, then all the Windows > Updates. Then I > installed Office 2003, followed by Office Updates to take it > past SP1. Next > was Spambayes binary. Load up Outlook and it still crashes in > exactly the > same manner. When I tried to load PythonWin, Windows killed > the process > because of the DEP security on my Athlon64 CPU and I had to > allow Windows to > accept it as a safe application. This did not affect > Spambayes crashing but > I'm wondering if the DEP is interfering with Spambayes somehow? > > Regards, > > Matt > > > _______________________________________________ > Spambayes@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From TaedN at vertical.com Wed Feb 2 18:19:24 2005 From: TaedN at vertical.com (Taed Wynnell) Date: Wed Feb 2 18:19:28 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Running Spambayes 1.0.3 on Windows NT Message-ID: <3BD425723573A340B1DC1C00D86991D111CABA@svlexchange.vertical.com> > Thanks for this - it helps to narrow down to a particular set of versions. > (NT is notoriously problematic, so it could be specific to that, maybe). Well, I think this report cinches it. Since my identical problem (the "Outlook Toolbars don't work" thread) is also on a system which is WinNT 4.0 SP 6a plus hotfixes, but I have Microsoft Outlook 2002 SP 3 plus hotfixes, so the commonality is WinNT. Note that for both of us, 1.01 worked fine, and the problem started in 1.02/1.03. Our log files are also identical. -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Billman, Dave Sent: Tuesday 01 February 2005 12:46 PM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Running Spambayes 1.0.3 on Windows NT I am running Window NT 1.0 (Build 1381, Service Pack 6) and Outlook 2000 SR-1 (9.0.0.3821). I am trying to install Spambayes 1.0.3 The installation seemed to go OK. Here is the only log file I have..... Registered: SpamBayes.OutlookAddin Registration complete. When I start OUTLOOK, the Spambayes Addin does not load. I reviewed the troubleshooting html page. I tried to see if the addin is enabled (going to Tools->Options->Other->Advanced-COM Add-Ins) The Spambayes was there but not checked. I checked it and got out.. When I went back in it was still unselected. There is action to do for Outlook XP/2002/2003 but nothing for 2000. Can anyone please help me. I was running version 1.0.1. I completely uninstalled that version and deleted any files that were named Spamb*.* that were left after the uninstall. Thank you, David Billman -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050202/d35a4b9b/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Feb 2 23:53:02 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Feb 2 23:53:10 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] 1.0.1 binary + Outlook 2003 SP1 run error In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I have independent confirmation that there are issues with > DEP and Outlook with a Spambayes based plugin. In that case, > listing Outlook as a safe application on an Athlon 64 > "solved" the problem. Thanks for the info Sean; much appreciated :) I'll add this to the known problems section of the FAQ. =Tony.Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Feb 3 00:08:26 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Feb 3 00:08:44 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Running Spambayes 1.0.3 on Windows NT In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [David Billman] > I am running Window NT 1.0 (Build 1381, Service Pack 6) > and Outlook 2000 SR-1 (9.0.0.3821). > When I start OUTLOOK, the Spambayes Addin does not load. [...] > I was running version 1.0.1. [...] [Tony Meyer] >> Thanks for this - it helps to narrow down to a particular set of versions. >> (NT is notoriously problematic, so it could be specific to that, maybe). [Taed Wynnell] > Well, I think this report cinches it. Since my identical problem > (the "Outlook Toolbars don't work" thread) is also on a system > which is WinNT 4.0 SP 6a plus hotfixes, but I have Microsoft Outlook > 2002 SP 3 plus hotfixes, so the commonality is WinNT. > > Note that for both of us, 1.01 worked fine, and the problem started > in 1.02/1.03. Our log files are also identical. Yes, it looks pretty certain. The problem here will either be with the pywin32 extensions (there was a build in the past of those that caused things to fail with NT) or with Python 2.4, since those are the changes from 1.0.1->1.0.2/3. I'll look into this when I have a chance - for the moment NT users can continue to use 1.0.1 (for Outlook, there are barely any changes anyway). However, it's pretty certain that 1.1 will run into this too, so I'll need to figure something out before releasing that. I opened this tracker for the bug: [ 1115105 ] Binary will not work with NT =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Feb 3 02:06:59 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Feb 3 02:07:27 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Error starting SB server In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I'm having trouble starting the sb_server, sb_tray. > > This is most likely my fault... i changed the data > directory but to a non existent and most likely > an invalid pathname (typo :). Hmm... I suppose we ought to check that the paths are valid when they are set, although that's a bit tricky since it's valid to set them to a non-existent file if, e.g., you want to start a new db. > I have uninstalled and > reinstalled but no luck so far. Have also been searching > the registry for relevant settings but i'm probably > missing somthing. The paths are stored in the configuration file. By default on Windows this will be in the '\Documents and Settings\{username}\Application Data\SpamBayes\Proxy' directory, and will be called 'bayescustomize.ini'. If you open that up it should be simple enough to edit anything invalid (or you can just delete the file and start afresh). > Inlcuded is the log file. [...] > File "bsddb\__init__.pyc", line 293, in hashopen > bsddb._db.DBNoSuchFileError: (2, 'No such file or directory') This does look like what you describe... =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From beckhelm at pacbell.net Thu Feb 3 02:23:43 2005 From: beckhelm at pacbell.net (Patrick Beckhelm) Date: Thu Feb 3 02:23:48 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Where to send suggestions for SpamBayes? Message-ID: <20050203012343.72456.qmail@web52502.mail.yahoo.com> I've been using SpamBayes for quite some time now, and have not yet seen the implementation of a feature that I think would make this tool a bit more user friendly. I don't want to submit those to the wrong place, so if there's a specific place to do so, and someone is feeling generous, I'd like to hear about it. Thanks, Patrick From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Feb 3 02:35:49 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Feb 3 02:35:48 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Where to send suggestions for SpamBayes? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I've been using SpamBayes for quite some time now, and > have not yet seen the implementation of a feature that > I think would make this tool a bit more user friendly. > I don't want to submit those to the wrong place, so > if there's a specific place to do so, and someone is > feeling generous, I'd like to hear about it. You can send suggestions here (spambayes@python.org), although there's a moderate chance of them getting lost in list traffic. Probably the best place is via the sourceforge tracker system (they are called RFE's there): (or just and click on "RFE") That way they stay there until they are dealt with, other people can add comments to them, they have an ID and URL to refer to them, it's easy to attach patches, and so on. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From liqing at gmx.net Thu Feb 3 02:39:47 2005 From: liqing at gmx.net (Li Qing) Date: Thu Feb 3 02:39:50 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] statistics problem Message-ID: <20050203093210.E3E8.LIQING@gmx.net> I do some training in spambayes, but every time I restart spambayes, the training statistics is reset to zero: --------------------------------------------------------------- Emails classified this session: 0 spam, 0 ham, 0 unsure. Total emails trained: Spam: 0 Ham: 0 Database has no training information. SpamBayes will classify all messages as 'unsure', ready for you to train. ---------------------------------------------------------------- anyone can help? thanks .^\ /\ ". `\ `\ _,-~ ` `-. ,\ `. `-` `~-._ __ ) ,' .~v-v~' `: ( ' `-.`. `. ,'~-.`^~^, ,' `~~~ -- Li Qing From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Feb 3 02:53:00 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Feb 3 02:53:06 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] statistics problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I do some training in spambayes, but every time I restart > spambayes, the training statistics is reset to zero: > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Emails classified this session: 0 spam, 0 ham, 0 unsure. > Total emails trained: Spam: 0 Ham: 0 > > Database has no training information. SpamBayes will classify > all messages as 'unsure', ready for you to train. > ---------------------------------------------------------------- You're using sb_server, is that right? (If not, please let us know which SpamBayes application you are using). I'm also assuming Windows (again, if not, please let us know). The training information is stored in a file in your "Application Data" directory. (With XP this is '\Documents and Settings\{username}\Application Data\SpamBayes\Proxy', with other versions it will differ slightly). There are two relevant files - hammie.db (training) and spambayes.messageinfo.db (various other data). You can check to see that those files are being written, and that nothing else is removing them. You could also check that your configuration file is always loading from the same place. The path to the configuration file is at the top of all the web interface configuration pages. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From rols at wanadoo.nl Thu Feb 3 09:06:46 2005 From: rols at wanadoo.nl (Roland Hiemstra) Date: Thu Feb 3 09:06:44 2005 Subject: Thanks! Re: [Spambayes] Error starting SB server References: Message-ID: <000b01c509c7$4f423c90$3fa89c52@dgmrbbo6p085z1> Thank you! That was it. Great prog by the way. Roland. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Meyer" To: "'Roland Hiemstra'" ; Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 2:06 AM Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Error starting SB server >> I'm having trouble starting the sb_server, sb_tray. >> >> This is most likely my fault... i changed the data >> directory but to a non existent and most likely >> an invalid pathname (typo :). > > Hmm... I suppose we ought to check that the paths are valid when they are > set, although that's a bit tricky since it's valid to set them to a > non-existent file if, e.g., you want to start a new db. > >> I have uninstalled and >> reinstalled but no luck so far. Have also been searching >> the registry for relevant settings but i'm probably >> missing somthing. > > The paths are stored in the configuration file. By default on Windows > this > will be in the '\Documents and Settings\{username}\Application > Data\SpamBayes\Proxy' directory, and will be called 'bayescustomize.ini'. > If you open that up it should be simple enough to edit anything invalid > (or > you can just delete the file and start afresh). > >> Inlcuded is the log file. > [...] >> File "bsddb\__init__.pyc", line 293, in hashopen >> bsddb._db.DBNoSuchFileError: (2, 'No such file or directory') > > This does look like what you describe... > > =Tony.Meyer > > -- > Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies > (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. > http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. > From m.g.ross at herts.ac.uk Thu Feb 3 09:48:01 2005 From: m.g.ross at herts.ac.uk (Matt Ross) Date: Thu Feb 3 09:49:02 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] 1.0.1 binary + Outlook 2003 SP1 run error In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I have independent confirmation that there are issues with > DEP and Outlook with a Spambayes based plugin. In that case, > listing Outlook as a safe application on an Athlon 64 > "solved" the problem. > > -- Sean Thanks Sean. I can confirm that manually adding Outlook.exe to the DEP allow list prevents Spambayes crashing Outlook on my PC. Thanks to Tony as well for your persistence in helping me out. Regards, Matt From mail at ksomers.co.uk Thu Feb 3 10:16:42 2005 From: mail at ksomers.co.uk (K Somers) Date: Thu Feb 3 10:16:49 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] corrupted files Message-ID: <$82.18.62.4$.4201ec00.22e6c.3097.0@neon.onspeed.com> Dear Sir, I have been trying to download the latest version of your excellent Spambayes (from this site: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/download.html) but when I try to run the program I am advised the files are corrupted and to get a copy from somewhere else. Can you help? K Wisahrt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050203/20b1d536/attachment.html From arne at evertsson.com Thu Feb 3 14:51:15 2005 From: arne at evertsson.com (Arne Evertsson) Date: Thu Feb 3 14:51:10 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] IMAP + Two computers running SpamBayes in Outlook Message-ID: <001201c509f7$6dd588d0$6400a8c0@sanfelix> I have a questing about running SpamBayes (Outlook 2000) on two different computers with IMAP access to the mail server. Will both instances of SpamBayes be trained when clicking Delete As Spam/Recover From Spam? /Arne Evertsson ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Arne Evertsson: arne@evertsson.com - 070 714 52 99 - 0300 61922 Evertsson Enterprises AB: www.evertsson.com www.skickafilen.se: N?r du ska skicka en fil som ?r f?r stor att maila. From arne at evertsson.com Thu Feb 3 15:11:19 2005 From: arne at evertsson.com (Arne Evertsson) Date: Thu Feb 3 15:11:14 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Copy spambayes database? Message-ID: <001801c509fa$3b914fa0$6400a8c0@sanfelix> Is there a way to copy the database from one SpamBayes to another installation (Outlook)? /Arne ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Arne Evertsson: arne@evertsson.com - 070 714 52 99 - 0300 61922 Evertsson Enterprises AB: www.evertsson.com www.skickafilen.se: N?r du ska skicka en fil som ?r f?r stor att maila. From barak at engelassociates.net Thu Feb 3 21:32:01 2005 From: barak at engelassociates.net (Barak Engel) Date: Thu Feb 3 21:31:57 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Stunnel, Spambayes, Eudora, Gmail Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050203123021.049d68c8@127.0.0.1> Hello, I wanted to send you a note to let you know how useful Spambayes has proven to be for me and others to whom I have recommended it. Thank you! Also, I have written an article, aimed at the novice user, that explains how to get Eudora (or any other non-outlook client), Spambayes (which doesnt support SPOP) and Stunnel working together to download (POP3) email from gmail. Since this is not a trivial setup by any means (at least not for the average user), I thought I'd drop you a note and see if you want to link to it somewhere. Here is the article: http://www.engelassociates.net/email.html Anyway, thanks again for a great tool, Best, Barak Engel From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Feb 3 22:44:17 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Feb 3 22:44:22 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] corrupted files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I have been trying to download the latest version > of your excellent Spambayes (from this site: > http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/download.html) but > when I try to run the program I am advised the files > are corrupted and to get a copy from somewhere else. Have you tried selecting a different sourceforge mirror for the download? =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Feb 3 22:47:39 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Feb 3 22:47:46 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Copy spambayes database? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Is there a way to copy the database from one SpamBayes to > another installation (Outlook)? Please see FAQ 3.6: =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Feb 3 22:53:19 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Feb 3 22:53:25 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] IMAP + Two computers running SpamBayes in Outlook In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I have a questing about running SpamBayes (Outlook 2000) on > two different computers with IMAP access to the mail server. Access to the same folders, I presume? > Will both instances of > SpamBayes be trained when clicking Delete As Spam/Recover From Spam? If "incremental training" is enabled (Training tab in the SpamBayes Manager), then yes, they should be. The copy of SpamBayes that has Delete As/Recover From clicked will train the message and then move it, see that there's a new message (in the spam folder), check to see if it needs training, and find that it doesn't. The other copy will see that there's a new message (in the spam folder), check to see if it needs training, and find that it does. Well, that's the theory, anyway. It would be simple enough to try it out... =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Feb 4 01:05:37 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Feb 4 01:06:53 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Thanks For The SpamBayes Project In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [...] > Your efforts are genuinely appreciated. I'd like > to tip my hat to the team and say thanks. On behalf of everyone in the development team, many thanks for the kind words :) =Tony.Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Feb 4 01:20:36 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Feb 4 01:20:45 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] IMAP problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Here's the bottom of a screenscrape from just three messages getting > processed, all of which were left in INBOX as well as being copied to > SUSPECT. Note that in the INBOX they were flagged as Seen, if > that helps at all.: That makes it even weirder! Assuming that it's not the mail client marking them as Seen, then the "STORE X +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted \Seen)" command is half working, in that it's storing the \Seen flag, but not the \Deleted one. Unfortunately, all looks good in the IMAP conversation: [...] > 02:51.44 < HELB13 OK APPEND complete. > 02:51.44 > HELB14 UID STORE 47325 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted \Seen) > 02:51.44 < HELB14 OK UID STORE complete. > 02:51.44 untagged responses dump: > EXISTS: "3" "4" > PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered)" > READ-WRITE: "" > UIDNEXT: "47328" "47329" > FLAGS: "(\Deleted \Draft \Seen \Answered)" > UIDVALIDITY: "1095696076" > RECENT: "0" [...] The only thing I can think of left is to try and manually set the \Deleted flag for a message, and see if that works. Something like this (in a command window): (You only type the first line (including the number), it returns the rest, which might be slightly different) --- 1. Connect to the mail server: $ telnet mail.example.com 143 Trying xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx... Connected to mail.example.com. Escape character is '^]'. * OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4REV1 LOGIN-REFERRALS AUTH=LOGIN] mail.example.com IMAP4rev1 2003.339-cpanel at Fri, 4 Feb 2005 13:11:05 +1300 (NZDT) 2. Log in to the mail server: 0 login username password 0 OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4REV1 IDLE NAMESPACE MAILBOX-REFERRALS BINARY UNSELECT SCAN SORT THREAD=REFERENCES THREAD=ORDEREDSUBJECT MULTIAPPEND] User username authenticated 3. Select the Inbox: 1 select inbox * 12 EXISTS * 0 RECENT * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1091599302] UID validity status * OK [UIDNEXT 49] Predicted next UID * FLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Draft \Seen) * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\* \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Draft \Seen)] Permanent flags 1 OK [READ-WRITE] SELECT completed 4. Get the flags for message #1. 2 fetch 1 flags * 1 FETCH (FLAGS (\Answered)) 2 OK FETCH completed 5. Get the headers for message #1, so you know which one it is in your mail client: 3 fetch 1 RFC822.HEADER * 1 FETCH (RFC822.HEADER {746} Return-Path: From: "Kelly Harris" To: "Meyer, Tony" Subject: The play Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 08:09:16 +1200 Message-ID: <20040308200916.93026.qmail@web41608.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0104_01C47A50.6035AFC0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <20040308200916.93026.qmail@web41608.mail.yahoo.com> X-OlkEid: 48040E208A0983C242C67041AA6F5B5197C9F79A x-originalarrivaltime: 08 Mar 2004 20:11:00.0779 (UTC) FILETIME=[79D23FB0:01C405 49] ) 3 OK FETCH completed (Obviously, your message headers will be completely different). 6. Try to set the \Deleted and \Seen flags: 4 store 1 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted \Seen) 4 OK STORE completed 7. Read the flags again, to check that they are changed: 5 fetch 1 flags * 1 FETCH (FLAGS (\Seen \Deleted \Answered)) 5 OK FETCH completed 8. Logout 6 logout * BYE kiwiwebhost.mitosis.net.nz IMAP4rev1 server terminating connection 6 OK LOGOUT completed --- Using the header info from step 5, figure out which message this is in your mail client, and see if it gets changed from not \Deleted to \Deleted, and see if that matches the results from step 6. (After this is done, you probably want to use your mail client to reset the flags back to what they were, too). If neither the mail client nor the results from step 6 indicate that the \Deleted flag is set, you could try using +FLAGS rather than +FLAGS.SILENT and see if that makes a difference. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From john3 at cornells.com Fri Feb 4 01:52:03 2005 From: john3 at cornells.com (John Fix 3rd) Date: Fri Feb 4 01:52:13 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook version with experimental options Message-ID: <20050204005212.3C67C1E400A@bag.python.org> I played around a bit with the experimental Spambayes options and ran into some quirks. When I enabled the x-only_slurp_base and x-slurp_urls options and restarted Outlook I got several errors: - The Outlook reminder service did not start - POP3 email retrieval failed - When I opened the Spambayes manager the lists of folders to scan for spam and ham was corrupt (i.e. several folders said . I changed the options back to FALSE (see attached .ini file) and restarted Outlook and the errors went away and the file folders looked fine. Just wanted to pass this along...great program BTW! John -------------- Cornell's True Value Hardware Eastchester, NY www.cornells.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Date/Time sent: 03 Feb 2005 20:05:40 Subject line: [Spambayes] Outlook version with experimental options From: spambayes-bounces@python.org To: spambayes@python.org Action taken: Replaced Reason: File Filter Rule Group: File Extensions to block Virus Found Quarantined Item Result Replaced Filename default_bayes_customize.ini CC Ticket Number 0934-4202-ca64-0007 Scanned by OnAccess (VSAPI) Copyright ? 1993-2003, Networks Associates Technology, Inc. All Rights Reserved. http://www.mcafeesecurity.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050203/87c44824/attachment.html From hans at pobox.com Fri Feb 4 07:34:12 2005 From: hans at pobox.com (Hans Henderson) Date: Fri Feb 4 07:34:42 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] IMAP problem Message-ID: <65ECB0FAFD322BAB3387FC14@hans.main.shrewsbury.ac.th> Thanks Tony, on my way out. I'll try it when I get back Monday. One thought - I'm running Norton AV, which seems to auto-scan every message as Mercury's POP3 client process pulls them off the Internet and deposits them in my IMAP INBOX - I can see the system tray icon flashing as this takes some time. Maybe it's scanning them again as the SpamBayes IMAP client is reading and writing to the IMAP server? Second thought - I've noticed that something (my mail server?) seems to be creating duplicate messages, maybe 80% of the time. But even if I manually delete the dupes, then run SpamBayes, the messages still stay in my INBOX, so I don't think the two issues are related. --On 04 February 2005 13:20 +1300 Tony Meyer wrote: > The only thing I can think of left is to try and manually set the \Deleted > flag for a message, and see if that works. Something like this (in a > command window): From hans at pobox.com Fri Feb 4 07:47:06 2005 From: hans at pobox.com (Hans Henderson) Date: Fri Feb 4 07:47:33 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] IMAP problem In-Reply-To: <65ECB0FAFD322BAB3387FC14@hans.main.shrewsbury.ac.th> References: <65ECB0FAFD322BAB3387FC14@hans.main.shrewsbury.ac.th> Message-ID: <3F6612A9CB6CE2E447F16FCC@hans.main.shrewsbury.ac.th> Also, note that I meant that the (redundant copies) in my INBOX are marked as seen, not the ones in the SUSPECT or UNSURE folders. From arne at evertsson.com Fri Feb 4 12:04:01 2005 From: arne at evertsson.com (Arne Evertsson) Date: Fri Feb 4 12:03:52 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] outlook+imap: recover moves mail to local inbox, not imap inbox.. Message-ID: <003101c50aa9$3b7d5ef0$6400a8c0@sanfelix> ..guess I should just move the mail manually then? /Arne ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Arne Evertsson: arne@evertsson.com - 070 714 52 99 - 0300 61922 Evertsson Enterprises AB: www.evertsson.com www.skickafilen.se: N?r du ska skicka en fil som ?r f?r stor att maila. From rfdoyle at mensdefense.org Fri Feb 4 18:51:57 2005 From: rfdoyle at mensdefense.org (Richard Doyle) Date: Fri Feb 4 19:06:10 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Update not available Message-ID: <002b01c50ae2$3cd6e490$3166cfa9@DELL> I've been trying to update SpamByes for months. No joy at any of the suggested locations. Richard Doyle -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From postmaster at ais.co.th Sat Feb 5 14:16:02 2005 From: postmaster at ais.co.th (postmaster@ais.co.th) Date: Sat Feb 5 14:08:11 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Virus found: "Mail Delivery (failure suggestion@ais.co.th)" Message-ID: <20050205130810.7AF411E4006@bag.python.org> Your e-mail to suggestion@ais.co.th was scanned by SurfControl E-Mail Anti-Virus Agent and has detected the Virus: Exploit-MIME.gen.c,W32/Netsky.p@MM. The Virus has been cleaned. from Postmaster@ais.co.th From beckhelm at pacbell.net Sat Feb 5 18:52:44 2005 From: beckhelm at pacbell.net (Patrick Beckhelm) Date: Sat Feb 5 18:52:49 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Where to send suggestions for SpamBayes? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <00cd01c50bab$7f3e4e30$0201c80a@chupacabra> Well, I'll submit the feature addition here, so that we can see what others think of it... I'm interested in seeing a feature added whereby SpamBayes will clear the message indicator (the envelope in the system tray) when a few conditions are met: 1. All of the mail received was classified as spam; and/or 2. All of the mail received was classified as *either* spam or suspected spam. -- The reason I think this is probably a useful, and even necessary, addition is that if mail is classified as spam, we won't be looking at it anyway, so no need to retain the "new mail" notifier. I think that the setting for #2 above is something that should be user configurable (check box, etc.) such that you could decide whether that behaviour is something you want. The default, of course, should be as it is now, so that *any* new mail will trigger the indicator, just to keep things vanilla for those who don't care. Do note that this is different than the already existing option to mark messages read. For some reason, on all of my systems, even if the message is marked as read the notifier in the tray still shows up for spam and suspected spam. Not fun, considering the ever growing volume of mail that we're being bombarded with. Thoughts? patrick -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 5:36 PM To: 'Patrick Beckhelm'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Where to send suggestions for SpamBayes? > I've been using SpamBayes for quite some time now, and > have not yet seen the implementation of a feature that > I think would make this tool a bit more user friendly. > I don't want to submit those to the wrong place, so > if there's a specific place to do so, and someone is > feeling generous, I'd like to hear about it. You can send suggestions here (spambayes@python.org), although there's a moderate chance of them getting lost in list traffic. Probably the best place is via the sourceforge tracker system (they are called RFE's there): (or just and click on "RFE") That way they stay there until they are dealt with, other people can add comments to them, they have an ID and URL to refer to them, it's easy to attach patches, and so on. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From vwehren at home.nl Sat Feb 5 21:13:48 2005 From: vwehren at home.nl (Vincent Wehren) Date: Sat Feb 5 21:13:50 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Using previously trained messages db for outlook add-in Message-ID: <20050205201348.19AD71E4006@bag.python.org> Hi, I have an XP machine on which I have been running Spambayes along with Mozilla Thunderbird. Now I also have Outlook 2003 installed on the system and installed the Spambayes Outlook Addin. My question is: (how) can I reuse my trained messages? I tried moving message_info_database.db and statistics_database.db to the plugin's proxy folder, but that apparently didn't do the trick. Any pointers much appreciated! -- Vincent Wehren From valdis at budrevics.com Sat Feb 5 22:35:22 2005 From: valdis at budrevics.com (Valdis Budrevics) Date: Sat Feb 5 22:39:26 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes for IPAQ 6315 Message-ID: <200502052139.j15LdJ8H007902@ms-smtp-02-eri0.texas.rr.com> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 145 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050205/b2037dfe/attachment.gif From motykoppes at cox.net Sun Feb 6 02:03:26 2005 From: motykoppes at cox.net (Moty Koppes) Date: Sun Feb 6 08:14:46 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] problem with my Spam buyer Message-ID: Hello! 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From matty at indamax.net Sun Feb 6 14:54:01 2005 From: matty at indamax.net (Matthew M Page) Date: Sun Feb 6 14:54:05 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Delay Times Message-ID: <20050206135403.E60771E4006@bag.python.org> I was just configuring my SpamBayes (for the second time) and I became curious about the delay times on the advanced tab. I poked around on the Sourceforge site, but didn't really find an answer... Can someone explain what the function of these delay times is for? And what the optimal settings are? Matty From sole at soleassociates.com Sun Feb 6 16:25:09 2005 From: sole at soleassociates.com (Kenneth Sole) Date: Sun Feb 6 16:26:51 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Delay Times In-Reply-To: <20050206135403.E60771E4006@bag.python.org> Message-ID: <000101c50c60$0c9b1150$6901a8c0@Kitchen> Hi Matty, Apologies to any more expert than I if I am intruding, but... My understanding is that the delay is to allow Outlook Rules to do their deed(s) before SpamBayes starts its thing. I would assume that a bit of tuning is needed to set the delay. If rules are not completing their task, extend bit. All the best, (and I return you to the experts), -- Kenneth Sole & Associates, Inc. Box 292 Durham, New Hampshire 03824 Voice: 603-659-3169 Fax: 603-659-2248 Email: sole@soleAssociates.com URL: http://www.soleAssociates.com PGP: http://wwwkeys.ch.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE17941C6 -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Matthew M Page Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 8:54 AM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Delay Times I was just configuring my SpamBayes (for the second time) and I became curious about the delay times on the advanced tab. I poked around on the Sourceforge site, but didn't really find an answer... Can someone explain what the function of these delay times is for? And what the optimal settings are? Matty _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From Amir_Katz at bmc.com Sun Feb 6 16:45:11 2005 From: Amir_Katz at bmc.com (Katz, Amir) Date: Sun Feb 6 16:45:25 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Delay Times Message-ID: True, but since MS does not expose the inner workings of Outlook clients, and does not tell when a plug-in is exactly invoked, there is no guarantee that a delay that works in one situation/installation will be sufficient in another. One can only tweak and pray. Personally, I'm running Outlook 2003 with a delay set to 2 seconds and it seems to suffice, but as they say, YMMV. Amir -----Original Message----- From: Kenneth Sole [mailto:sole@soleassociates.com] Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 17:25 To: 'Matthew M Page'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Delay Times Hi Matty, Apologies to any more expert than I if I am intruding, but... My understanding is that the delay is to allow Outlook Rules to do their deed(s) before SpamBayes starts its thing. I would assume that a bit of tuning is needed to set the delay. If rules are not completing their task, extend bit. All the best, (and I return you to the experts), -- Kenneth Sole & Associates, Inc. Box 292 Durham, New Hampshire 03824 Voice: 603-659-3169 Fax: 603-659-2248 Email: sole@soleAssociates.com URL: http://www.soleAssociates.com PGP: http://wwwkeys.ch.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE17941C6 -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Matthew M Page Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 8:54 AM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Delay Times I was just configuring my SpamBayes (for the second time) and I became curious about the delay times on the advanced tab. I poked around on the Sourceforge site, but didn't really find an answer... Can someone explain what the function of these delay times is for? And what the optimal settings are? Matty _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From lemunsun at comcast.net Mon Feb 7 00:02:31 2005 From: lemunsun at comcast.net (Sun LeMunyon) Date: Sun Feb 6 23:42:07 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes won't retrain Message-ID: I keep getting a message, every time that I start outlook, that the database is corrupted and I must retrain. I have read the FAQ, rebuilt the database many times, and even reinstalled the entire program. Still it gives me that error, I'm running winXp sp2 with outlook2k Log file below Loaded bayes database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Sun\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db' Loaded message database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Sun\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db' Bayes database initialized with 99 spam and 299 good messages SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0.3 (January 2005) starting (with engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004)) on Windows 5.1.2600 (Service Pack 2) using Python 2.4 (#60, Nov 30 2004, 11:49:19) [MSC v.1310 32 bit (Intel)] ************************************************** The timer is enabled, but one of the timer intervals values is zero You must set both intervals before the timer will enable SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Personal Folders/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Personal Folders/Inbox/222' Processing 0 missed spam in folder 'Inbox' took 43.9455ms Checked 342 in folder Inbox - 342 new entries found. Checked 102 in folder 222 - 102 new entries found. Loaded bayes database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Sun\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db' Loaded message database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Sun\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db' Bayes database initialized with 102 spam and 331 good messages ERROR: 'It appears your SpamBayes training database is corrupt.\r\n\r\nWe are working on solving this, but unfortunately you\r\nmust re-train the system via the SpamBayes manager.' Traceback (most recent call last): File "manager.pyc", line 802, in score File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 190, in chi2_spamprob File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 493, in _getclues File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 508, in _worddistanceget File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 308, in probability AssertionError ERROR: 'It appears your SpamBayes training database is corrupt.\r\n\r\nWe are working on solving this, but unfortunately you\r\nmust re-train the system via the SpamBayes manager.' Traceback (most recent call last): File "manager.pyc", line 802, in score File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 190, in chi2_spamprob File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 493, in _getclues File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 508, in _worddistanceget File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 308, in probability AssertionError Error filtering message '' Traceback (most recent call last): File "filter.pyc", line 128, in filter_folder File "filter.pyc", line 14, in filter_message File "manager.pyc", line 802, in score File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 190, in chi2_spamprob File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 493, in _getclues File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 508, in _worddistanceget File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 308, in probability AssertionError ERROR: 'It appears your SpamBayes training database is corrupt.\r\n\r\nWe are working on solving this, but unfortunately you\r\nmust re-train the system via the SpamBayes manager.' (this error has already been reported - not displaying it again) Error filtering message '' Traceback (most recent call last): File "filter.pyc", line 128, in filter_folder File "filter.pyc", line 14, in filter_message File "manager.pyc", line 802, in score File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 190, in chi2_spamprob File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 493, in _getclues File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 508, in _worddistanceget File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 308, in probability AssertionError ERROR: 'It appears your SpamBayes training database is corrupt.\r\n\r\nWe are working on solving this, but unfortunately you\r\nmust re-train the system via the SpamBayes manager.' (this error has already been reported - not displaying it again) Error filtering message '' Traceback (most recent call last): File "filter.pyc", line 128, in filter_folder File "filter.pyc", line 14, in filter_message File "manager.pyc", line 802, in score File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 190, in chi2_spamprob File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 493, in _getclues File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 508, in _worddistanceget File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 308, in probability AssertionError ERROR: 'It appears your SpamBayes training database is corrupt.\r\n\r\nWe are working on solving this, but unfortunately you\r\nmust re-train the system via the SpamBayes manager.' (this error has already been reported - not displaying it again) Error filtering message '' Traceback (most recent call last): File "filter.pyc", line 128, in filter_folder File "filter.pyc", line 14, in filter_message File "manager.pyc", line 802, in score File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 190, in chi2_spamprob File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 493, in _getclues File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 508, in _worddistanceget File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 308, in probability AssertionError -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.5 - Release Date: 2/3/2005 From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Feb 7 01:57:50 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Feb 7 01:58:04 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Delay Times In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [Matthew M Page] >>> I was just configuring my SpamBayes (for the second time) and >>> I became curious about the delay times on the advanced tab. I >>> poked around on the Sourceforge site, but didn't really find >>> an answer... You can get some help by clicking the wee question mark icon at the top right of the dialog and then clicking the entry box (I imagine, but haven't checked, that pressing F1 while in the box would do the same). >>> Can someone explain what the function of these delay times is >>> for? And what the optimal settings are? [Kenneth Sole] >> Apologies to any more expert than I if I am intruding, but... Answering others questions certainly isn't intruding! It lets the 'experts' answer other questions that might not have anyone else to answer. >> My understanding is that the delay is to allow Outlook Rules >> to do their deed(s) before SpamBayes starts its thing. >> >> I would assume that a bit of tuning is needed to set the >> delay. If rules are not completing their task, extend bit. [Amir Katz] > True, but since MS does not expose the inner workings of > Outlook clients, and does not tell when a plug-in is exactly > invoked, there is no guarantee that a delay that works in one > situation/installation will be sufficient in another. One > can only tweak and pray. The only things I have to add are: 1. The 1.0.x interface will let you set invalid values (we'll fix this for 1.1) so if SpamBayes stops filtering, check the log for an "invalid timer value" entry. 2. One value is for the delay after new messages after before filtering the first unread message, and the other is for the delay between filtering messages. BTW, if you don't use Outlook rules at all, or (IIRC) if all your rules operate on Exchange then you can just turn background filtering off. =Tony.Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Feb 7 02:03:53 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Feb 7 02:04:02 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: Unsubscribing - arghhh In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Apologies for having to write you. I looked everywhere for a way to > unsubscribe. Google works: Or if you go to the 'contact' page on our website: And then to the information about this list, you will find instructions: > But I have already deleted all of the previous > spambayes messages (due to continuous anti-virus complaints about the > various viruses on your list). So I do not have the instructions for > terminating my subscription. But even if you have deleted all previous messages, if you are still subscribed, then you will, sooner-or-later, get a new one, which has instructions for subscribing in it. > And - it is conspicuously absent on the > sourceforge / spambayes site. Well, it isn't prominent, sure, but it's not absent (as above). > May I respectfully suggest that you > include instructions for unsubscribing in each message that is sent > out? It's there, and always has been. (The first link in the google search above gives examples). > Or if it is placed on the web site - in plain view - > that would also permit one to subscribe or unscribe. Is the contact page not plain view? =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Feb 7 02:10:48 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Feb 7 02:10:54 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes won't retrain In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I keep getting a message, every time that I start outlook, > that the database is corrupted and I must retrain. I have > read the FAQ, rebuilt the database many times, and even > reinstalled the entire program. Still it gives me that > error, Are you sure you are retraining from scratch? (i.e. are ticking the 'rebuild entire database' box? You can try just deleting the database files manually, which will reset your training (the FAQ explains where they are). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Feb 7 02:13:31 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Feb 7 02:13:41 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Using previously trained messages db for outlook add-in In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I have an XP machine on which I have been running Spambayes > along with Mozilla Thunderbird. > > Now I also have Outlook 2003 installed on the system and > installed the Spambayes Outlook Addin. My question is: (how) > can I reuse my trained messages? > > I tried moving message_info_database.db and > statistics_database.db to the plugin's proxy folder, but that > apparently didn't do the trick. You can delete the message_info_database.db file - the message info databases that Outlook & sb_server use are not compatible (but this is not a big deal). You need to put the statistics_database.db in the data directory (e.g. '/Documents and Settings/{username}/Application Data/SpamBayes') (not the Proxy directory in there) and rename it 'default_bayes_database.db'. It would be best to do this when Outlook was not running. You will probably have an existing database file in there, with whatever training the Outlook plug-in has done. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Feb 7 02:26:07 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Feb 7 02:26:39 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: [spambayes-dev] weird stuff In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Please note that the spambayes-dev list is for discussion about development of spambayes. Problems and bug reports should be addressed to the spambayes@python.org list. > This morning I found that neither of my SpamBayes buttons > on the Outlook toolbar would work. I could press them, > but nothing happened. > I used Add/Remove Programs to uninstall, then reinstalled. Same result. > > I looked online for a newer version and downloaded 1.0.3 > (I had been using 1.0rc2), and found the same result. > > I uninstalled again, then manually removed the SpamBayes > toolbar from Outlook. > > Now when I reinstall 1.0.3, there is no SpamBayes toolbar added. Please check to see if Outlook has disabled the add-in (Help->About Microsoft Outlook->Disabled Items). If that is not the case, please find your most recent log file (the troubleshooting guide explains where to find these) and send us a copy. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From mike at ourislands.com Mon Feb 7 02:33:17 2005 From: mike at ourislands.com (Mike Kaiser) Date: Mon Feb 7 02:33:24 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: [spambayes-dev] weird stuff In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050207013319.SRMJ2148.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mikeshpnotebook> Thanks, that was the problem. After I posted my message (to the wrong place, thank you), I found that this is a somewhat common problem, so I was able to fix it. Mike __________________ Mike Kaiser mike@ourislands.com www.ourmaineisland.com -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 8:26 PM To: 'Mike Kaiser' Cc: spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [spambayes-dev] weird stuff Please note that the spambayes-dev list is for discussion about development of spambayes. Problems and bug reports should be addressed to the spambayes@python.org list. > This morning I found that neither of my SpamBayes buttons > on the Outlook toolbar would work. I could press them, > but nothing happened. > I used Add/Remove Programs to uninstall, then reinstalled. Same result. > > I looked online for a newer version and downloaded 1.0.3 > (I had been using 1.0rc2), and found the same result. > > I uninstalled again, then manually removed the SpamBayes > toolbar from Outlook. > > Now when I reinstall 1.0.3, there is no SpamBayes toolbar added. Please check to see if Outlook has disabled the add-in (Help->About Microsoft Outlook->Disabled Items). If that is not the case, please find your most recent log file (the troubleshooting guide explains where to find these) and send us a copy. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Feb 7 02:46:18 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Feb 7 02:46:25 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Update not available In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I've been trying to update SpamByes for months. > No joy at any of the suggested locations. What happens if you click the link at ? Have you tried changing sourceforge mirror on the download page? What goes wrong? The file cannot be found? The downloaded file is corrupt? =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Feb 7 02:48:22 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Feb 7 02:48:29 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] outlook+imap: recover moves mail to local inbox, not imap inbox.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > ..guess I should just move the mail manually then? There are often troubles with this with IMAP - the plug-in tries to save the original folder id with the message, but this does not work with all IMAP servers. If it doesn't, then the default store's inbox is used as a backup. The upcoming 1.1 release has a fix for this, but until then, yes you'll have to either move it manually, or change the default message store. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From ccorbett at dpro.com Mon Feb 7 03:23:52 2005 From: ccorbett at dpro.com (Cliff Corbett) Date: Mon Feb 7 03:26:02 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] lost junk email box Message-ID: I have deleted my junk email folder by accident. I tried to re-install the software and I could not restore the folder.... Please tell me how to get it (junk email folder) back Thanks Business and Entertainment Services Cliff Corbett Corbett International, Inc. (CII) 4363 44th Street South St. Petersburg, FL 33711 ccorbett@dpro.com tel: fax: mobile: 727-867-0070 813-354-3561 727-641-5977 Powered by Plaxo Want a signature like this? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050206/274d0b7e/attachment.htm From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Feb 7 03:36:49 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Feb 7 03:37:36 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] lost junk email box In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I have deleted my junk email folder by accident. > I tried to re-install the software and I could not restore the folder.... > > Please tell me how to get it (junk email folder) back Please see FAQ 3.13: =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Feb 7 03:38:39 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Feb 7 03:38:44 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] problem with my Spam buyer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I keep having problem with my Spam buyer. It mostly says that > I have to go to my Spam buyer manager, run configuration wizard > and recon figurate. > > Where is the manager and how can I find it in my computer? There is a "SpamBayes" button on the toolbar in Outlook. If you click that, a drop-down menu will appear. The first item there will be "SpamBayes Manager". You can change any of the configuration (or rerun the wizard, although that may reset your training) from there. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Feb 7 03:41:29 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Feb 7 03:41:42 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes for IPAQ 6315 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I now also have an IPAQ 6315 pocket PC which I use to > receive e-mail on the road. All the e-mail I receive > on this device comes unfiltered. I was wondering whether > you had a version of spambayes for pocket PCs. No, sorry. (You could try installing the plug-in, but I would be surprised if it worked). > If you don't would you know where I might find spam > filtering software for a pocket PC. Google? <0.5 wink>. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Feb 7 04:58:47 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Feb 7 04:58:53 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Where to send suggestions for SpamBayes? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I'm interested in seeing a feature added whereby SpamBayes > will clear the message indicator (the envelope in the system > tray) when a few conditions are met: > > 1. All of the mail received was classified as spam; and/or > > 2. All of the mail received was classified as *either* spam > or suspected spam. > > The reason I think this is probably a useful, and even > necessary, addition is that if mail is classified as spam, > we won't be looking at it anyway, so no need to retain the > "new mail" notifier. I think that the setting for #2 > above is something that should be user configurable (check > box, etc.) such that you could decide whether that behaviour > is something you want. The default, of course, should be > as it is now, so that *any* new mail will trigger the indicator, > just to keep things vanilla for those ho don't care. This is a very common request. For example, see FAQ 3.8: And the RFE: [ 774978 ] Hide envelope icon when only spam received To steal Kenny's words from there: "The problem is that SpamBayes only knows about a small subset of the Outlook mail folders. A user can configure Outlook rules to move messages to other folders that SpamBayes doesn't know about, so it is difficult for SpamBayes to be certain when there are *no* other unread messages anywhere in Outlook." However, the upcoming 1.1 release will include some additional notification support. At the moment there is a "Notifications" tab in the Manager dialog, from where you can set sounds for SpamBayes to play when ham/unsure/spam is received. (These can be used instead of / in addition to the Outlook notification sounds). It's feasible that this will be expanded in time so that a tray icon can be controlled as well as sounds. (Either the Outlook tray icon, or one of our own). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Feb 7 05:39:26 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Feb 7 05:39:29 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] IMAP problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > One thought - I'm running Norton AV, which seems to auto-scan > every message as Mercury's POP3 client process pulls them off > the Internet and deposits them in my IMAP INBOX - I can see the > system tray icon flashing as this takes some time. Maybe it's > scanning them again as the SpamBayes IMAP > client is reading and writing to the IMAP server? Hmm...maybe - it could be either badly written and be setting the mail to undeleted, or be running at the same time and setting the status back to what it was before SpamBayes started. If it is some sort of conflict with Norton, then I'm not sure what to do. (You could try disabling Norton for a few minutes, run sb_imapfilter, and see if the behaviour changes). > Second thought - I've noticed that something (my mail > server?) seems to be creating duplicate messages, maybe 80% of > the time. But even if I manually delete the dupes, then run > SpamBayes, the messages still stay in my INBOX, > so I don't think the two issues are related. It's definitely not SB creating the duplicates? > Also, note that I meant that the (redundant copies) in my INBOX > are marked as seen, not the ones in the SUSPECT or UNSURE folders. I figured that, but thanks for the clarification. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Feb 7 05:41:20 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Feb 7 05:41:23 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook version with experimental options In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I played around a bit with the experimental Spambayes options > and ran into some quirks. When I enabled the x-only_slurp_base and > x-slurp_urls options and restarted Outlook I got several errors: > > - The Outlook reminder service did not start > - POP3 email retrieval failed > - When I opened the Spambayes manager the lists of folders to > scan for spam and ham was corrupt (i.e. several folders said . > > I changed the options back to FALSE (see attached .ini file) > and restarted Outlook and the errors went away and the file > folders looked fine. > > Just wanted to pass this along...great program BTW! Yikes. None of this should have been effected by those options. I don't suppose you still have the log file for that time, do you? (The troubleshooting guide explains where to find the logs, e.g. '/Documents and Settings/{username}/Local Settings/Temp'). If you do, it would be great if you could forward us a copy. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From vincent at visualtrans.de Mon Feb 7 09:09:05 2005 From: vincent at visualtrans.de (Vincent Wehren) Date: Mon Feb 7 09:09:06 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Using previously trained messages db for outlook add-in In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42072221.4000704@visualtrans.de> Tony Meyer wrote: >>I have an XP machine on which I have been running Spambayes >>along with Mozilla Thunderbird. >> >>Now I also have Outlook 2003 installed on the system and >>installed the Spambayes Outlook Addin. My question is: (how) >>can I reuse my trained messages? >> .. > You can delete the message_info_database.db file - the message info > databases that Outlook & sb_server use are not compatible (but this is not a > big deal). > > You need to put the statistics_database.db in the data directory (e.g. > '/Documents and Settings/{username}/Application Data/SpamBayes') (not the > Proxy directory in there) and rename it 'default_bayes_database.db'. > ... > =Tony.Meyer > Just the ticket! Thanks! -- Vincent Wehren From hans at pobox.com Mon Feb 7 09:30:47 2005 From: hans at pobox.com (Hans Henderson) Date: Mon Feb 7 10:02:09 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] IMAP problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <76B6C5055B984A22B082629F@hans.main.shrewsbury.ac.th> --On 07 February 2005 17:39 +1300 Tony Meyer wrote: > (You could try disabling Norton for a few minutes, run sb_imapfilter, and see if the behaviour changes). I tried that, but it seems that the usual "Disable Auto-Protect" doesn't turn off the email filtering. I'll investigate when I get a chance (crazy start to my workweek - I'll also re-visit the command-line IMAP tests). > It's definitely not SB creating the duplicates? Definitely not, one of the nice things about a command-line process as opposed to an automated one, easy to isolate interactions. From xpoirier at ch-bourg01.fr Mon Feb 7 15:04:09 2005 From: xpoirier at ch-bourg01.fr (Xavier Poirier) Date: Mon Feb 7 15:07:44 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] email with message contradictuous content Message-ID: <1107785049.42077559612bf@hermesadm.chb.fr> Hi Spambayers! Good product, congratulation for your excelent work! I have this problem since some weeks ago: some email messages (evidently spam) have this structure (One example received this morning) - The last part of the message contains some words completly mixed hasardous : ********************************************************************* Finally a place for the sexually-liberated find the love and romance you deserve! FuLl list : http://wallofcorals.com/dc1r.html filigree liablefinland arrest providemcneil gothic commonplaceyokel teleconference bedstrawrhombi spirit activatebookish heartbeat inhibitorymainline pour shortcomingairspace parsonage emaciatecliffhang burlington pulloverdoormen ********************************************************************* I don't want to add these message in the database of SpamBayes cause I think there can be words in the last part of message that I don't want to STOP!We receive this type of message more and more often these days... I don't know if this as been discuted here before, and if there is an answer for stopping these type of emails messages? Sorry for my poor english, I hope my message is comprehensible at end... Xavier -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ce courriel est envoy? au travers de l' interface IMP: ch-bourg01.fr Ce message a ?t? pass? automatiquement ? l' antivirus This email have been sent through Imap Mail Program: ch-bourg01.fr This message have been scanned with an antivirus scanner From sachinc at aftek.com Tue Feb 8 09:39:50 2005 From: sachinc at aftek.com (sachin chakote) Date: Tue Feb 8 09:42:56 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] How Spam Bayes determines no Of Significant Words In perticular Mail Message-ID: How Spam Bayes determines no Of Significant Words In perticular Mail? Sachin Chakote Aftek Infosys Ltd. Pune From hmjagadish at gmail.com Tue Feb 8 10:29:59 2005 From: hmjagadish at gmail.com (Jagadish HM) Date: Tue Feb 8 10:30:03 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] accessing spambayes Message-ID: <272fff610502080129d1fcfb9@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I have installed Spambayes on WinXP system. It works only if the administrator has loggedin, and the outlook plugin will not be added to outlook if a normal user (who is not in administrator group) logs in. How to solve this problem. Regards jagadish H M From pipetodevnull at web.de Tue Feb 8 11:59:14 2005 From: pipetodevnull at web.de (Stefan Schlichtinger) Date: Tue Feb 8 11:59:54 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Developer Message-ID: <200502081159140395.00B06DA5@smtp.web.de> Dear developer-team, i have read on your Homepage that you need support in internationalisation. I?m ready to help you for the documentaion in german language. Let me know, if i can become a "developer". I?m looking forward to your answer! PS: You do a very good work with your project, so i decided to write this email to you! :) Best regrads, Steve From alejandro.martin at cigb.edu.cu Tue Feb 8 03:35:21 2005 From: alejandro.martin at cigb.edu.cu (Alejandro Miguel Martin Dunn) Date: Tue Feb 8 14:40:52 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Speeding up Outlook plugin Message-ID: Hi everyone, Is there any way to speed up processing of messages by SB? I've been receiving quite a bit of spam lately (400-500 per day) and since I only check e-mail just a couple of times a day, every time Outlook is run I either have to put up with sluggish performance (while SB grinds on with the 'Background Filtering' option enabled), or wait until SB finishes up ('Background filtering' disabled). However, some time ago I heard some talk here on the list about sb_bnfilter.py/sb_bnserver.py and how using them would shorten processing time (I remember very impressing figures, at least an order of magnitude faster). Is there any way of using them with the Outlook plugin? Running Windows XP SP1 here, Outlook 2002 SP2, with the 1.0.3 SB plugin. regards, alejandro From jsp at PKC.com Tue Feb 8 14:57:17 2005 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Tue Feb 8 14:57:21 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] How Spam Bayes determines no Of Significant Words Inperticular Mail Message-ID: <6b576d254fe3cc6c271463e72d43b7ca4208c53e@vtmail.pkc.com> Short answer: you train it. You give it some examples of spam and ham (that is, not spam), and it analyzes these messages. When a new message comes in, its contents are compared to the spammy and hammy tokens, and a spam rating between 0 and 1 is assigned (0 = "definitely not spam", 1 = "definitely spam"). You assign cutoffs for ham and spam ratings; anything in between is treated as unsure. When SpamBayes miscategorizes something, you tell it so, which adds new information to the training database. (This assumes you train on errors, which is only one possible strategy.) Long answer: see http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/background.html and http://entrian.com/sbwiki/TrainingIdeas. > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces@python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of sachin chakote > Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 3:40 AM > To: spambayes@python.org > Subject: [Spambayes] How Spam Bayes determines no Of > Significant Words Inperticular Mail > > How Spam Bayes determines no Of Significant Words In perticular Mail? > > Sachin Chakote > Aftek Infosys Ltd. Pune From scorpios at robsoncom.net Tue Feb 8 16:30:43 2005 From: scorpios at robsoncom.net (James Sandefer) Date: Tue Feb 8 16:30:46 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook vs. Outlook Express application Message-ID: <000f01c50df3$27567a40$6501a8c0@jimsadventure> Spambayes applications only mention Outlook; can it also be used with Outlook Express? 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The only oddity I can think of is that this PC came with Python22 already installed, so I suppose there may be a system path for Python that is confusing matters. Thanks! -Nick Fankhauser From jsp at PKC.com Tue Feb 8 17:32:46 2005 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Tue Feb 8 17:32:49 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook vs. Outlook Express application Message-ID: Yes, but. Outlook Express is more like non-Microsoft clients (Eudora, etc) than Outlook. Outlook is a special case in that it has its own version of SpamBayes (the plug-in). Outlook Express cannot use the plug-in, and must be set up like any other (non-Outlook) client. See http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#does-spambayes-work-with-outlo ok-express and http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/windows.html . ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of James Sandefer Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 10:31 AM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook vs. Outlook Express application Spambayes applications only mention Outlook; can it also be used with Outlook Express? Thanks, Jim Sandefer Explorer newspaper Weekly Columnist www.explorernews.com Then click the link for Weekly Columnists and select Senior Life Author "Rambling Thoughts" www.realfunnyquotes.com "Mental Abyss" www.depressionsurvival.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050208/d6d56bf6/attachment.html From nickf at doxpop.com Tue Feb 8 22:05:29 2005 From: nickf at doxpop.com (Nick Fankhauser) Date: Tue Feb 8 22:05:34 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Follow-up on ImportError in sb_imapfilter.py Message-ID: <42092999.2050400@doxpop.com> Hi- I figured out a workaround but I'm not sure if it is the most graceful option. After scanning a python tutorial, I started python interactively, and did: import sys sys.path.append("\program files\spambayes-1.0\") [ctrl-z] Then I altered my config.bat as follows: cd c:\program files\spambayes-1.0.3 c:\python24\python .\scripts\sb_imapfilter.py -b Seems like a bit of a kludge, bu I'm working now. BTW, when looking at the comments in sb_imapfilter.py, I note that it says IMAP over SSL is relatively untested. I've been using IMAP/SSL for months with no problem and will continue to do so, so it is now somewhat more tested. Congrats to the author for a pretty clean alpha version. Regards, -Nick -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Nick Fankhauser nickf@doxpop.com Phone 765.965.7363 Fax 765.962.9788 Doxpop - Access to county court records without leaving your desk. http://www.doxpop.com From nickf at doxpop.com Tue Feb 8 22:13:03 2005 From: nickf at doxpop.com (Nick Fankhauser) Date: Tue Feb 8 22:13:07 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Follow-up on ImportError in sb_imapfilter.py In-Reply-To: <42092999.2050400@doxpop.com> References: <42092999.2050400@doxpop.com> Message-ID: <42092B5F.4010801@doxpop.com> Big Oops! I just noticed that while I was adding spambayes 1.0 to the path, I was referring to 1.0.3 in the bat file. So apparently my path append had nothing to do with my success but changing my working directory made the relative paths work out. In any case, I'm beginning to get it, so no further help is needed for the moment. -Nick ------------------------------------------------------------------ Nick Fankhauser nickf@doxpop.com Phone 765.965.7363 Fax 765.962.9788 Doxpop - Access to county court records without leaving your desk. http://www.doxpop.com Nick Fankhauser wrote: > Hi- > > I figured out a workaround but I'm not sure if it is the most graceful > option. After scanning a python tutorial, I started python > interactively, and did: > > import sys > sys.path.append("\program files\spambayes-1.0\") > [ctrl-z] > > Then I altered my config.bat as follows: > > cd c:\program files\spambayes-1.0.3 > c:\python24\python .\scripts\sb_imapfilter.py -b > > Seems like a bit of a kludge, bu I'm working now. > > BTW, when looking at the comments in sb_imapfilter.py, I note that it > says IMAP over SSL is relatively untested. I've been using IMAP/SSL for > months with no problem and will continue to do so, so it is now somewhat > more tested. Congrats to the author for a pretty clean alpha version. > > Regards, > -Nick > From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Feb 8 22:41:20 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Feb 8 22:41:27 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] accessing spambayes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I have installed Spambayes on WinXP system. It works only if > the administrator has loggedin, and the outlook plugin will > not be added to outlook if a normal user (who is not in > administrator group) logs in. Please see the "SpamBayes is not available for all users on the machine" section in the troubleshooting guide: =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Feb 8 22:44:40 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Feb 8 22:44:45 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] How Spam Bayes determines no Of Significant Words Inperticular Mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > How Spam Bayes determines no Of Significant Words In perticular Mail? In addition to what Jesse said: once SpamBayes has a set of all tokens in a message (and the individual scores for each token), all tokens within a certain range (by default 0.4 to 0.6) are discarded, and the remainder are sorted in order of their distance from 0.5. Up to 150 of the most significant tokens (those furthers from 0.5) are used as the tokens to generate the message's overall score. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Feb 8 22:54:12 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Feb 8 22:54:21 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] ImportError on new install In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I've used sb_impafilter.py with excellent results on my older > windows PC for several months, but recently got a new windows > PC and after downloding a fresh copy of Python24 & Spambayes > source, I'm getting an error: > > C:\Program Files\spambayes-1.0.3\scripts>c:\python24\python > sb_imapfilter.py -b > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 119, in ? > from spambayes.Options import options, get_pathname_option > ImportError: No module named spambayes.Options > > I'm a reasonably savvy computer user, but completely new to > python, so I may need to be spoon-fed a bit on the Python end. Python needs to import the "spambayes" package, and doesn't know where it is. It will search the current working directory and sys.path, so you want to get the package there somehow. > I figured out a workaround but I'm not sure if it is the most > graceful option. After scanning a python tutorial, I started > python interactively, and did: > > import sys > sys.path.append("\program files\spambayes-1.0\") > [ctrl-z] > > Then I altered my config.bat as follows: > > cd c:\program files\spambayes-1.0.3 > c:\python24\python .\scripts\sb_imapfilter.py -b > > Seems like a bit of a kludge, bu I'm working now. [later] > I just noticed that while I was adding spambayes 1.0 to the > path, I was referring to 1.0.3 in the bat file. So apparently > my path append had nothing to do with my success but changing > my working directory made the relative paths work out. Yes; because Python looks in the current working directory, it finds the spambayes package directory that it needs. This is a perfectly valid way of solving the problem. Two others are: 1. Put the C:\Program Files\spambayes-1.0.3' directory in the PYTHONPATH environment variable. The contents of that are added to sys.path when Python starts up. 2. Run "setup.py install" - this copies the required spambayes files to the C:\Python24\Lib\site-packages directory, which is also searched for required packages. > BTW, when looking at the comments in sb_imapfilter.py, I note > that it says IMAP over SSL is relatively untested. I've been > using IMAP/SSL for months with no problem and will continue > to do so, so it is now somewhat more tested. Many thanks for the feedback. > Congrats to the author for a pretty clean alpha version. Thanks - although the credit for SSL working so smoothly really belongs with those that did a good job with the underlying Python imaplib module. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Feb 8 23:15:32 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Feb 8 23:15:38 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Developer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > i have read on your Homepage that you need support in > internationalisation. I?m ready to help you for the > documentaion in german language. Let me know, if i can become > a "developer". I?m looking forward to your answer! That would be great! There are instructions about how to do the translation tasks at the end of the README-DEVEL.txt file in CVS. (So the first thing to do would be to check out a copy of the latest CVS as described at ). Please let us know if you have any queries, or need help with anything! Either here, or via the developers list: spambayes-dev@python.org =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From Plindsley at cox.net Wed Feb 9 01:04:33 2005 From: Plindsley at cox.net (Phil Lindsey) Date: Wed Feb 9 01:04:37 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] picture ads Message-ID: <20050209000434.WXF9332.fed1rmmtao02.cox.net@HP> Spam Killers: Spam Bayes has worked great for me, except for one thing: most of the spam I'm getting now in my inbox are picture ads disguised with innocuous text.or no text. (usually drug ads) I'm concerned that Spam Bayes only trains on the text, and if I keep "deleting as spam" these ads, I'll train SpamBayes into false positives. Please advise. Thanks!! -Phil Philip P. 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20050208/ebdf31e4/attachment.html From tpeters at mixcom.com Wed Feb 9 02:03:29 2005 From: tpeters at mixcom.com (Tom Peters) Date: Wed Feb 9 02:04:52 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Review page in Firefox In-Reply-To: <20050209000434.WXF9332.fed1rmmtao02.cox.net@HP> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050208185524.00c11618@localhost> The review page http://localhost:8880/review works differently in Firefox than it does in IE :-( In IE 6, I noticed that if I change some of the radio buttons from their default settings (change some Unsure to to Spam, some Ham to Spam, etc) and scroll down the page somewhat, then click on the subject line of (any) message to read it, when I come back (click the back button or press Alt-Left) I return to the same place on the screen (scrolled to the same point) and all the same radio buttons are still set. Try this in Firefox 1.0 (Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041107 Firefox/1.0). Change some buttons. Scroll down. Click a subject line. Or Clues. Or Tokens. Return to the Review screen. All the ^*(%#$%@@!@#! buttons will be set to the default for the page again. And you will be unscrolled-- back at the top. Grrrr. Please don't tell me there's something IE does better than Firefox. Can't be. Please... [Science] Door meten tot weten. (To knowledge by measurement.) -- Kammerlingh, Dutch low temperature physicist. --... ...-- -.. . -. ----. --.- --.- -... tpeters@nospam.mixcom.com (remove "nospam") N9QQB (amateur radio) "HEY YOU" (loud shouting) WEB ADDRESS http//www.mixweb.com/tpeters 43? 7' 17.2" N by 88? 6' 28.9" W, Elevation 815', Grid Square EN53wc WAN/LAN/Telcom Analyst, Tech Writer, MCP, Cisco Certified CCNA From tdickenson at geminidataloggers.com Wed Feb 9 10:55:33 2005 From: tdickenson at geminidataloggers.com (Toby Dickenson) Date: Wed Feb 9 10:55:36 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Speeding up Outlook plugin In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200502090955.34039.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com> On Tuesday 08 February 2005 02:35, Alejandro Miguel Martin Dunn wrote: > However, some time ago I heard some talk here on the list about > sb_bnfilter.py/sb_bnserver.py and how using them would shorten > processing time (I remember very impressing figures, at least an order > of magnitude faster). Is there any way of using them with the Outlook > plugin? I cant comment on the outlook plugin, but I do know sb_bnfilter.... sb_bnfilter solves one specific performance problem with sb_filter - it avoids having to reload the spambayes database for every filtered message. The outlook plugin doesnt use sb_filter (so it cant have a 'bn' upgrade) and has never had that specific problem that sb_bnfilter solves. -- Toby Dickenson ____________________ Important Notice: This email and any attachments are confidential and may contain trade secrets or be legally privileged. If you have received this email in error you must not use, rely upon, disclose, copy or distribute the contents. Please reply to the sender so that proper delivery can be arranged and delete the email from your computer. Gemini Data Loggers monitor incoming and outgoing email to ensure satisfactory customer service, maintain company security and prevent abuse of their email system. However, any views expressed in this email are not necessarily those of Gemini and Gemini cannot be held responsible for the content. Gemini makes best efforts to ensure emails are virus free; however you are advised to carry out your own checks. Gemini does not accept responsibility for any damage resulting from email viruses. ____________________ From beta_nunessdkdj8374 at hotmail.com Wed Feb 9 13:05:59 2005 From: beta_nunessdkdj8374 at hotmail.com (Roberta Nunes) Date: Wed Feb 9 13:06:13 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] =?iso-8859-1?q?MALA_DIRETA_DE_E-MAILS_SEGMENTADOS_GE?= =?iso-8859-1?q?N=C9RICOS_MIRADOS_FOCADOS_http=3A//www=2Egueb=2Ede/?= =?iso-8859-1?q?segmails?= Message-ID: <20050209120610.7E46E1E4012@bag.python.org> .. MALA DIRETA DE E-MAILS SEGMENTADOS GEN?RICOS MIRADOS FOCADOS http://www.gueb.de/segmails @ Listas de E-Mails Mala Direta E-mails Segmentados ou E-mails Gen?ricos Marketing Direto Divulga??o Visite agora: http://www.gueb.de/segmails . CADASTRAMENTO DE HOME PAGES EM MILHARES DE SITES DE BUSCAS NO BRASIL E NO MUNDO . MALA DIRETA DE EMAILS SEGMENTADA . MALA DIRETA DE EMAILS GEN?RICA . VALIDA??O DE LISTAS E-MAILS . SMS (MENSANGENS A CELULAR ) . ICQ 9(MENSANGENS A ICQ ) Visite agora: http://www.gueb.de/segmails bulk mail,mailing list,e-maling,listas,cadastros,email,emaiu,emeiu,emaiu,emaius e-mails para mala direta,e-mails,emails,email,emaio,listas de e-mails,mailing list,listagem,cadastros,listas de e-mail,marketing direto,mmv,publicidade,divulga??o,mp3,e-mails segmentados,home page,bulk mail,playboy,propaganda,maladireta,maling list,sexo E-mails para Mala Direta/Marketing Direto gen?ricos ou segmentados por ramo de atividade,sexo,idade,cidade,estado Visite agora: http://www.gueb.de/segmails Cadastramento de Home Page em sites de buscas,otimiza??o,dicas e downloads gr?tis From tomconn at atlanticbb.net Wed Feb 9 13:19:24 2005 From: tomconn at atlanticbb.net (Tom Conn) Date: Wed Feb 9 13:19:29 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Cannot remove Message-ID: Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.6 - Release Date: 2/7/2005 From alejandro.martin at cigb.edu.cu Wed Feb 9 14:12:38 2005 From: alejandro.martin at cigb.edu.cu (Alejandro Miguel Martin Dunn) Date: Wed Feb 9 14:13:15 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Speeding up Outlook plugin Message-ID: OK, thanks for the reply! Too bad it wouldn't work... By any chance, you haven't heard of any SB implementation (barring the Outlook plugin) that is able to scan an Exchange mailbox using its native MAPI/whatever protocol even when the user is not interactively logged on (kind of a service/daemon thing)? regards, alejandro -----Original Message----- From: Toby Dickenson [mailto:tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 5:56 AM To: spambayes@python.org Cc: Alejandro Miguel Martin Dunn Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Speeding up Outlook plugin On Tuesday 08 February 2005 02:35, Alejandro Miguel Martin Dunn wrote: > However, some time ago I heard some talk here on the list about > sb_bnfilter.py/sb_bnserver.py and how using them would shorten > processing time (I remember very impressing figures, at least an order > of magnitude faster). Is there any way of using them with the Outlook > plugin? I cant comment on the outlook plugin, but I do know sb_bnfilter.... sb_bnfilter solves one specific performance problem with sb_filter - it avoids having to reload the spambayes database for every filtered message. The outlook plugin doesnt use sb_filter (so it cant have a 'bn' upgrade) and has never had that specific problem that sb_bnfilter solves. -- Toby Dickenson ____________________ Important Notice: This email and any attachments are confidential and may contain trade secrets or be legally privileged. If you have received this email in error you must not use, rely upon, disclose, copy or distribute the contents. Please reply to the sender so that proper delivery can be arranged and delete the email from your computer. Gemini Data Loggers monitor incoming and outgoing email to ensure satisfactory customer service, maintain company security and prevent abuse of their email system. However, any views expressed in this email are not necessarily those of Gemini and Gemini cannot be held responsible for the content. Gemini makes best efforts to ensure emails are virus free; however you are advised to carry out your own checks. Gemini does not accept responsibility for any damage resulting from email viruses. ____________________ From jszyman3 at merr.com Wed Feb 9 17:14:56 2005 From: jszyman3 at merr.com (Jeff Szymanski) Date: Wed Feb 9 17:15:05 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] system slowdown after 1.0.3 update Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20050209100957.00a93d30@localhost> Hello. After updating to SpamBayes 1.0.3 from 1.0.2 on my Win98 system, I noticed that my system slowed noticeably. Has anyone else complained about abnormal system resource usage with v.1.0.3? 1.0.1 and 1.0.2 didn't cause this. Thanks for providing SpamBayes and for reading this. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.6 - Release Date: 2/7/2005 From LISTSERV at MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU Thu Feb 10 14:30:11 2005 From: LISTSERV at MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU (L-Soft list server at St. John's University (1.8d)) Date: Thu Feb 10 14:29:53 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Your message to ABLE-JOB-request@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU Message-ID: <20050210132951.3FD891E4003@bag.python.org> Thu, 10 Feb 2005 08:30:11 Your message to ABLE-JOB-request@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU has been forwarded to the "list owners" (the people who manage the ABLE-JOB list). If you wanted to reach a human being, you used the correct procedure and you can ignore the remainder of this message. If you were trying to send a command for the computer to execute, please read on. The ABLE-JOB list is managed by a LISTSERV server. LISTSERV commands should always be sent to the "LISTSERV" address, ie LISTSERV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU. LISTSERV never tries to process messages sent to the ABLE-JOB-request address; it simply forwards them to a human being, and acknowledges receipt with the present message. The "listname-request" convention originated on the Internet a long time ago. At the time, lists were always managed manually, and this address was defined as an alias for the person(s) in charge of the mailing list. You would write to the "listname-request" address to ask for information about the list, ask to be added to the list, make suggestions about the contents and policy, etc. Because this address was always a human being, people knew and expected to be talking to a human being, not to a computer. Unfortunately, some recent list management packages screen incoming messages to the "listname-request" address and attempt to determine whether they are requests to join or leave the list. They look for words such as "subscribe," "add," "leave," "off," and so on. If they decide your message is a request to join or leave the list, they update the list automatically; otherwise, they forward the message to the list owners. Naturally, this means that if you write to the list owners about someone else's unsuccessful attempts to leave the list, you stand good chances of being automatically removed from the list, whereas the list owners will never receive your message. No one really benefits from this. There is no reliable mechanism to contact a human being for assistance, and you can never be sure whether your request will be interpreted as a command or as a message to the list owners. This is why LISTSERV uses two separate addresses, one for the people in charge of the list and one for the computer that runs it. This way you always know what will happen, especially if you are writing in a language other than English. In any case, if your message was a LISTSERV command, you should now resend it to LISTSERV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU. The list owners know that you have received this message and may assume that you will resend the command on your own. You will find instructions for the most common administrative requests below. ********************* * TO LEAVE THE LIST * ********************* Write to LISTSERV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU and, in the text of your message (not the subject line), write: SIGNOFF ABLE-JOB ******************** * TO JOIN THE LIST * ******************** Write to LISTSERV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU and, in the text of your message (not the subject line), write: SUBSCRIBE ABLE-JOB ************************ * FOR MORE INFORMATION * ************************ Write to LISTSERV@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU and, in the text of your message (not the subject line), write: "HELP" or "INFO" (without the quotes). HELP will give you a short help message and INFO a list of the documents you can order. From greg at gulik.org Thu Feb 10 17:42:36 2005 From: greg at gulik.org (Gregory Gulik) Date: Thu Feb 10 17:42:46 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] New user, issues with command line use Message-ID: <420B8EFC.8060604@gulik.org> I'm a new SpamBayes user and I think I've installed it correctly on my Red Hat 9 system. I've installed it under my own user only for test purposes and using Procmail to execute sb_filter.py and do the filtering. I'm using the following config in .spambayesrc [Storage] persistent_use_database = True persistent_storage_file = ~/.hammiedb [Headers] include_evidence = True So far it works ok but I need to figure out how to further train it so that's it's as simple and platform independant as possible. Other SPAM filters I've used have an E-mail alias such as spam-myloginid@mydomain.com to report spam. Is that possible to do with SpamBayes, if so, how do I set up the alias? -- Greg Gulik http://www.gulik.org/greg/ greg @ gulik.org From greg at gulik.org Thu Feb 10 19:06:31 2005 From: greg at gulik.org (Gregory Gulik) Date: Thu Feb 10 19:59:20 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Run filter and only return a report??? Message-ID: <420BA2A7.1060509@gulik.org> Is there a way to run sb_filter.py and produce only a detailed report of the Evidence without doing any other processing? -- Greg Gulik http://www.gulik.org/greg/ greg @ gulik.org From jen at golfholiday.com Thu Feb 10 21:07:50 2005 From: jen at golfholiday.com (Jennifer Hurston) Date: Thu Feb 10 21:14:03 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] problem Message-ID: Help! I thought I was emptying my spam e-mail and spam suspect folders from outlook (because they were getting quite large)when I actually deleted the whole folder. Is there any way to pull these folders back into my inbox without re-installing Spambayes? Thanks. Jennifer Hurston Controller Myrtle Beach Golf Holiday 3420 Pampas Drive Myrtle Beach, SC 29577 (843)477-8833 ext. 233 From robert.mezzone at pjsolomon.com Thu Feb 10 22:01:32 2005 From: robert.mezzone at pjsolomon.com (Robert Mezzone) Date: Thu Feb 10 22:01:36 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] problem Message-ID: Check your deleted items folder. You can also manually recreate the folders, then run Spambayes Manager to point to the folders. No need to reinstall. Hth. Robert -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Jennifer Hurston Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 3:08 PM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] problem Help! I thought I was emptying my spam e-mail and spam suspect folders from outlook (because they were getting quite large)when I actually deleted the whole folder. Is there any way to pull these folders back into my inbox without re-installing Spambayes? Thanks. Jennifer Hurston Controller Myrtle Beach Golf Holiday 3420 Pampas Drive Myrtle Beach, SC 29577 (843)477-8833 ext. 233 _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Feb 10 22:20:10 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Feb 10 22:20:20 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Run filter and only return a report??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Is there a way to run sb_filter.py and produce only a > detailed report of the Evidence without doing any other > processing? Possibly. What do you mean by detailed report? Would this be all the tokens in the message, or all the tokens that would be used in scoring? For each token, would you want just the token, or also the ham/spam counts or the scores, or all of these? Would they have to be in a particular format? What do you mean by without any other processing? sb_filter (when filtering) doesn't really do much apart from generate the tokens & scores. Depending on the answers to those, you might be able to get sb_filter to do what you want. If you can't, then it would be trivial to create a small script that did what you wanted (I could throw one together for you if you like). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Feb 10 22:27:29 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Feb 10 22:27:39 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] New user, issues with command line use In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I've installed it under my own user only for test purposes and using > Procmail to execute sb_filter.py and do the filtering. > > I'm using the following config in .spambayesrc > [Storage] > persistent_use_database = True > persistent_storage_file = ~/.hammiedb > [Headers] > include_evidence = True > > So far it works ok but I need to figure out how to further > train it so that's it's as simple and platform independent > as possible. > Other SPAM filters I've used have an E-mail alias such as > spam-myloginid@mydomain.com to report spam. > > Is that possible to do with SpamBayes, if so, how do I set up > the alias? There are many ways to train SpamBayes - it's really a case of picking the one that suits you best. For example: * You can use sb_mboxtrain to train from a mbox or MH mailbox. * You can use sb_filter (-g or -s) to train a single message. * You can use sb_upload to upload messages to the web interface and train from the review page. * You can use the "Train" box on the front page of the web interface. * You can use sb_imapfilter to train from specific IMAP folders. * You can use sb_server as a SMTP proxy (without the POP3 proxy, if you like) and train via email forwarding. The latter is similar to what you describe, I believe. However, it works best when used in conjunction with the POP3 proxy so that it actually trains from the stored copy of the message in the cache. If you use it without that, then you need to be sure that you are forwarding the message exactly as it arrived, and not in a forwarded format that most mailers will produce (ideally this also means that the To: header should be as when arrived, and only the SMTP FROM should be spambayes-spam@localhost or whatever you set the address to). Those are the most common ways, but I've probably missed something. If none of these suit, please post a message describing what would, and we can see if we can come up with a way to do what you're after. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From kenny.pitt at gmail.com Thu Feb 10 22:29:56 2005 From: kenny.pitt at gmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Thu Feb 10 22:30:20 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <420bd256.1e565b6a.70d4.108f@smtp.gmail.com> Robert Mezzone wrote: > Check your deleted items folder. You can also manually recreate the > folders, then run Spambayes Manager to point to the folders. No need > to reinstall. > > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces@python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Jennifer Hurston > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 3:08 PM > To: spambayes@python.org > Subject: [Spambayes] problem > > Help! I thought I was emptying my spam e-mail and spam suspect > folders from outlook (because they were getting quite large)when I > actually deleted the whole folder. Is there any way to pull these > folders back into my inbox without re-installing Spambayes? Thanks. Also see FAQ #3.13: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#help-i-deleted-the-unsure-spam-fol der -- Kenny Pitt From jen at golfholiday.com Thu Feb 10 22:25:46 2005 From: jen at golfholiday.com (Jennifer Hurston) Date: Thu Feb 10 22:31:51 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] problem In-Reply-To: <420bd256.1e565b6a.70d4.108f@smtp.gmail.com> Message-ID: thanks. -----Original Message----- From: Kenny Pitt [mailto:kenny.pitt@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 4:30 PM To: 'Robert Mezzone'; 'Jennifer Hurston'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] problem Robert Mezzone wrote: > Check your deleted items folder. You can also manually recreate the > folders, then run Spambayes Manager to point to the folders. No need > to reinstall. > > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces@python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Jennifer Hurston > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 3:08 PM > To: spambayes@python.org > Subject: [Spambayes] problem > > Help! I thought I was emptying my spam e-mail and spam suspect > folders from outlook (because they were getting quite large)when I > actually deleted the whole folder. Is there any way to pull these > folders back into my inbox without re-installing Spambayes? Thanks. Also see FAQ #3.13: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#help-i-deleted-the-unsure-spam-fol der -- Kenny Pitt From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Feb 10 22:39:47 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Feb 10 22:40:16 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Cannot remove In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I have used the add/remove windows program to uninstall > spambayes. But it is still filtering my mail. I manually > removed the buttons, only for them to come back.. I went > into regedit and got rid of anything that appeared to be > spambayes. I even did a search and removed anything > spambaye related. The program is still working. I get > mail and "IT" classifies some of it SPAM. Are you positive that it is SpamBayes? Are new log files generated each time you open Outlook? (The troubleshooting guide explains where the log files are). Add/Remove programs should remove SpamBayes completely (other than your configuration/training data). However, you can manually delete it from the registry (as you describe) and from wherever you installed it (e.g. 'C:\Program Files\SpamBayes'). If those files are gone, then there is no way for SpamBayes to run. I presume you never installed from source? If you did, then you need to run 'addin.py --unregister' in much the same way you did when you installed from source. Deleting the source files would also stop the plug-in working. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From greg at gulik.org Thu Feb 10 22:55:20 2005 From: greg at gulik.org (Gregory Gulik) Date: Thu Feb 10 22:55:36 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Run filter and only return a report??? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <420BD848.8020402@gulik.org> Tony Meyer wrote: > What do you mean by detailed report? Would this be all the tokens in the > message, or all the tokens that would be used in scoring? For each token, > would you want just the token, or also the ham/spam counts or the scores, or > all of these? Would they have to be in a particular format? I'd probably only be interested in the tokens that were used in scoring and the output just needs to be in an easily parseable format. > What do you mean by without any other processing? sb_filter (when > filtering) doesn't really do much apart from generate the tokens & scores. Right, just give me a score, don't make any changes to the database or attempt to deliver the message. > Depending on the answers to those, you might be able to get sb_filter to do > what you want. If you can't, then it would be trivial to create a small > script that did what you wanted (I could throw one together for you if you > like). Thanks. I need to add Python to the list of programming languages I know. Basically, a friend who's company uses SpamBayes with the Outlook plug-in sent me a report he saw, here is a summary: Combined Score: 100% (0.999998) Internal ham score (*H*): 4.79832e-006 Internal spam score (*S*): 1 # ham trained on: 89 # spam trained on: 1733 28 Significant Tokens token spamprob #ham #spam 'x-mailer:microsoft office outlook, build 11.0.6353' 0.168914 2 7 'url:org' 0.254701 13 86 'url:rec-html40' 0.277582 3 22 'skip:r 10' 0.284156 28 216 'skip:p 10' 0.321735 31 286 'url:tr' 0.372452 4 46 'url:www' 0.384768 63 767 'virus:src="cid:' 0.72041 3 151 'from:addr:level3.net' 0.844828 0 1 'subject:\xe4' 0.844828 0 1 . . That's basically the kind of report I would like to see. -- Greg Gulik http://www.gulik.org/greg/ greg @ gulik.org From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Feb 10 22:55:23 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Feb 10 22:56:46 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] system slowdown after 1.0.3 update In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > After updating to SpamBayes 1.0.3 from 1.0.2 on my Win98 > system, I noticed that my system slowed noticeably. Has anyone > else complained about abnormal system resource usage with v.1.0.3? > > 1.0.1 and 1.0.2 didn't cause this. Since 1.0.2 was only out for a day, I'll make the assumption that there may have been a slowdown there too, but there wasn't time to notice it. Are you using the Outlook plug-in or sb_server or one of the other apps? Is one particular action (training, classifying, starting up, ...) slower than before, or everything? How many messages have you trained on? The only change I can think of that might result in a slowdown (but shouldn't) is that the release was built with a different version of Python (and, IIRC, the pywin32 extensions). These ought to make things faster, if anyone, but none of the other changes should make any difference at all. If you are using the Outlook plug-in, then there are so few changes between 1.0.1 and 1.0.3 that you might as well just reinstall 1.0.1 and stick with that. If you're using sb_server (or one of the other apps) then there are some more important fixes, so we should try and figure out what the problem is. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From greg at gulik.org Thu Feb 10 23:03:01 2005 From: greg at gulik.org (Gregory Gulik) Date: Thu Feb 10 23:03:10 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] New user, issues with command line use In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <420BDA15.9080602@gulik.org> Tony Meyer wrote: > There are many ways to train SpamBayes - it's really a case of picking the > one that suits you best. For example: > > * You can use sb_mboxtrain to train from a mbox or MH mailbox. > > * You can use sb_filter (-g or -s) to train a single message. I've been experimenting with this method but I was puzzled why the .hammiedb was not being updated. Then I realized that since I was having it run through an E-mail alias the sb_filter program was being run as user "mail" and sure enough the ~mail/.hammiedb file was being updated each time, not exactly the effect I was going for. I tried to run it with -d ~user/.hammiedb but that didn't seem to work either. > * You can use sb_server as a SMTP proxy (without the POP3 proxy, if you > like) and train via email forwarding. Right, I'd like to be able to forward messages but for a variety of reasons (mostly afraid of breaking a variety of other goofy special E-mail handling I have) I don't want to put a proxy in front of my real E-mail server. > The latter is similar to what you describe, I believe. However, it works > best when used in conjunction with the POP3 proxy so that it actually trains > from the stored copy of the message in the cache. If you use it without > that, then you need to be sure that you are forwarding the message exactly > as it arrived, and not in a forwarded format that most mailers will produce > (ideally this also means that the To: header should be as when arrived, and > only the SMTP FROM should be spambayes-spam@localhost or whatever you set > the address to). > > Those are the most common ways, but I've probably missed something. If none > of these suit, please post a message describing what would, and we can see > if we can come up with a way to do what you're after. Ah, I see. The problem is that my users will be forwarding the messages. Ugh. We also use IMAP here exclusively so the POP3 proxy won't help me anyway. -- Greg Gulik http://www.gulik.org/greg/ greg @ gulik.org From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Feb 10 23:32:32 2005 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Feb 10 23:32:52 2005 Subject: [Spambayes] Run filter and only return a report??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I'd probably only be interested in the tokens that were used > in scoring and the output just needs to be in an easily parseable format. If you do something like this: python scripts/sb_filter.py -d hammie.db -o Headers:include_evidence:True < msg.txt You'll get a header in the message copy output to stdout that looks like this: X-Spambayes-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'shows': 0.06; 'cheers': 0.09; 'finished': 0.09; 'show.': 0.09; 'channel': 0.09; 'url:nz': 0.10; 'school,': 0.13; 'enough': 0.13; 'space': 0.13; 'acting': 0.16; 'there,': 0.16; 'trailers': 0.16; 'xtra': 0.16; 'yeah,': 0.16; "year's": 0.16; 'broadband': 0.17; 'year': 0.18; 'done': 0.18; 'movie': 0.19; 'keen': 0.20; 'url:co': 0.20; "i've": 0.21; "you're": 0.21; 'getting': 0.21; 'high': 0.23; 'next': 0.23; 'find': 0.24; 'just': 0.25; 'first': 0.25; 'let': 0.26; 'but': 0.27; 'when': 0.27; 'couple': 0.28; 'know': 0.28; 'really': 0.29; 'like': 0.30; "don't": 0.30; 'online': 0.31; 'header:Mime-Version:1': 0.32; 'watch': 0.32; 'please': 0.33; "i'm": 0.33; 'message-id:@hotmail.com': 0.34; 'with': 0.38; 'header:Return-path:1': 0.40; "subject:'": 0.66; 'from:addr:hotmail.com': 0.69; 'header:Received:4': 0.72; 'to:addr:madsods.gen.nz': 0.83; 'ellis': 0.84; 'subject:show': 0.84; 'subject:year': 0.84; 'skip:_ 60': 0.91 These are just the tokens that are used ('*H*' and '*S*' are special internal tokens that represent the individual ham and spam scores; you probably want to ignore those). Parsing that would be reasonably simple. > Right, just give me a score, don't make any changes to the > database or attempt to deliver the message. Running the above command follows those rules. > Thanks. I need to add Python to the list of programming > languages I know. It only takes a day . > Basically, a friend who's company uses SpamBayes with the Outlook > plug-in sent me a report he saw, here is a summary: > > Combined Score: 100% (0.999998) > Internal ham score (*H*): 4.79832e-006 > Internal spam score (*S*): 1 > > # ham trained on: 89 > # spam trained on: 1733 > 28 Significant Tokens > > token spamprob #ham #spam > 'x-mailer:microsoft office outlook, build 11.0.6353' 0.168914 > 2 7 > 'url:org' 0.254701 13 86 > 'url:rec-html40' 0.277582 3 22 > 'skip:r 10' 0.284156 28 216 > 'skip:p 10' 0.321735 31 286 > 'url:tr' 0.372452 4 46 > 'url:www' 0.384768 63 767 > 'virus:src="cid:' 0.72041 3 151 > 'from:addr:level3.net' 0.844828 0 1 > 'subject:\xe4' 0.844828 0 1 > . > . > > That's basically the kind of report I would like to see. Ok, I've ripped out the code from the Outlook plug-in that does this and converted it to a command-line script (attached). Run it something like: python showclues.py -d hammie.db < msg.txt It does output in HTML at the moment, because that's what the Outlook plug-in does (for an Outlook-specific reason). It would be simple enough to strip the HTML out of the script, though (I imagine even without knowledge of Python). If you'd like that done, I don't mind doing it (this script seems potentially useful enough for me to check it into the contrib/ directory). Let me know if there are any other improvements you can think of. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. -------------- next part -------------- import cgi import sys import getopt from spambayes import storage from spambayes import mboxutils from spambayes.classifier import Set from spambayes.Options import options from spambayes.tokenizer import tokenize def ShowClues(bayes, msg): score, clues = bayes.spamprob(tokenize(msg), evidence=True) body = ["

Combined Score: %d%% (%g)

\n" % (round(score*100), score)] push = body.append # Format internal scores. push("Internal ham score (%s): %g
\n" % clues.pop(0)) push("Internal spam score (%s): %g
\n" % clues.pop(0)) # Format the # ham and spam trained on. push("
\n") push("# ham trained on: %d
\n" % bayes.nham) push("# spam trained on: %d
\n" % bayes.nspam) push("
\n") # Format the clues. push("

%s Significant Tokens

\n
" % len(clues))
    push("")
    push("token                               spamprob         #ham  #spam\n")
    push("\n")
    format = " %-12g %8s %6s\n"
    fetchword = bayes.wordinfo.get
    for word, prob in clues:
        record = fetchword(word)
        if record:
            nham = record.hamcount
            nspam = record.spamcount
        else:
            nham = nspam = "-"
        word = repr(word)
        push(cgi.escape(word) + " " * (35-len(word)))
        push(format % (prob, nham, nspam))
    push("
\n") # Now the raw text of the message push("

Message Stream

\n") push("
\n")
    push(cgi.escape(msg.as_string()))
    push("
\n") # Show all the tokens in the message push("

All Message Tokens

\n") # need to re-fetch, as the tokens we see may be different based on # header stripping. toks = Set(tokenize(msg)) # create a sorted list toks = list(toks) toks.sort() push("%d unique tokens

" % len(toks)) # Use instead of 
, as 
 is not word-wrapped by IE
    # However,  does not require escaping.
    # could use pprint, but not worth it.
    for token in toks:
        push("" + repr(token) + "
\n")

    # Put the body together, then the rest of the message.
    body = ''.join(body)
    body = """\




""" + body + ""
    return body

if __name__ == "__main__":
    opts, args = getopt.getopt(sys.argv[1:], 'd:p:o:')
    for opt, arg in opts:
        if opt in ('-o', '--option'):
            options.set_from_cmdline(arg, sys.stderr)
    dbname, usedb = storage.database_type(opts)
    bayes = storage.open_storage(dbname, usedb)
    bayes.load()

    if not args:
        args = ["-"]
    for fname in args:
        mbox = mboxutils.getmbox(fname)
        for msg in mbox:
            print ShowClues(bayes, msg)
From greg at gulik.org  Thu Feb 10 23:39:08 2005
From: greg at gulik.org (Gregory Gulik)
Date: Thu Feb 10 23:39:15 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Run filter and only return a report???
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <420BE28C.60806@gulik.org>

Tony,

Thanks so much for the code.  It looks like I should be able to make use 
of one of those methods.

I will add Python to the top of my list of additional languages to 
learn.  I just need to remove all remaining knowledge of FORTRAN and Ada 
to make room.  8^)


Tony Meyer wrote:
> If you do something like this:
> 
> python scripts/sb_filter.py -d hammie.db -o Headers:include_evidence:True <
> msg.txt
> 
> You'll get a header in the message copy output to stdout that looks like
> this:
> 
> X-Spambayes-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'shows': 0.06; 'cheers':
> 0.09;

> Ok, I've ripped out the code from the Outlook plug-in that does this and
> converted it to a command-line script (attached).  Run it something like:
> 
> python showclues.py -d hammie.db < msg.txt
> 
> It does output in HTML at the moment, because that's what the Outlook
> plug-in does (for an Outlook-specific reason).  It would be simple enough to
> strip the HTML out of the script, though (I imagine even without knowledge
> of Python).  If you'd like that done, I don't mind doing it (this script
> seems potentially useful enough for me to check it into the contrib/
> directory).  Let me know if there are any other improvements you can think
> of.


-- 
Greg Gulik                                 http://www.gulik.org/greg/
greg @ gulik.org

From barefoot69 at frontiernet.net  Fri Feb 11 03:13:39 2005
From: barefoot69 at frontiernet.net (keith meyer)
Date: Fri Feb 11 03:13:42 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] spam
Message-ID: <000601c50fdf$4dd44dd0$01fea8c0@D184L361>

is there any way i can remove spambayes from my desktop  keith
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From: barefoot69 at frontiernet.net (keith meyer)
Date: Fri Feb 11 03:27:47 2005
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cannot send e-mail after i downloaded spambayes HELP
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From Ralf.Meuser at tk-logistik.com  Fri Feb 11 09:47:55 2005
From: Ralf.Meuser at tk-logistik.com (Ralf Meuser)
Date: Fri Feb 11 09:45:39 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with Windows 2003 and terminal Server
Message-ID: <8E94307D6F01CE438E6F3B02CF3BB646430CD4@SERVEUR1.tk-transports.com>

Hi there

 

I installed Spambayes on a Windows 2003 server. The users get connected
trough the terminal server.

For one user the Spambayes doesn't work anymore. Can somebody tell me
how I could cleanup the things for this user and reactivate it ?

 

 

Thanks in adance

Ralf Meuser



 

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From robert at imagine.co.uk  Fri Feb 11 11:41:47 2005
From: robert at imagine.co.uk (Robert Neuschul)
Date: Fri Feb 11 11:41:50 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with Windows 2003 and terminal Server
In-Reply-To: <8E94307D6F01CE438E6F3B02CF3BB646430CD4@SERVEUR1.tk-transports.com>
References: <8E94307D6F01CE438E6F3B02CF3BB646430CD4@SERVEUR1.tk-transports.com>
Message-ID: 

Ralf

In article 
<8E94307D6F01CE438E6F3B02CF3BB646430CD4@SERVEUR1.tk-transports.com>, Ralf 
Meuser wrote:
> For one user the Spambayes doesn't work anymore. Can somebody tell me
> how I could cleanup the things for this user and reactivate it ?

Which version of SB and how is it installed? 
Are there any errors recorded in W2K3 event logs?
What desktop OS is in use by the user? 
What mail client is in use? 
If the mail client is reconfigured to bypass SB does mail collection work 
correctly?
What symptoms does the user see when collecting mail via SB? "It doesn't 
work" is not very useful diagnostic information.

Robert.


From gtc at cheshirelaw.com  Sat Feb 12 00:41:24 2005
From: gtc at cheshirelaw.com (Geoffrey T. Cheshire)
Date: Sat Feb 12 00:41:32 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Errors with selecting other databases
Message-ID: <420D42A4.2060505@cheshirelaw.com>

Hi all.  I'm running SpamBayes 1.0.3 proxy (not OL plugin) on Windows 
2000 Pro using Python 2.4.  Whenever I pick a different database (I 
tried MySQL and pickle), I get this error:

500 Server error
Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "spambayes\Dibbler.pyc", line 470, in found_terminator
   File "spambayes\UserInterface.pyc", line 793, in onChangeopts
   File "spambayes\ProxyUI.pyc", line 729, in reReadOptions
   File "sb_server.pyc", line 861, in _recreateState
   File "sb_server.pyc", line 876, in prepare
   File "sb_server.pyc", line 708, in prepare
   File "sb_server.pyc", line 756, in createWorkers
   File "spambayes\storage.pyc", line 710, in open_storage
   File "spambayes\storage.pyc", line 91, in __init__
   File "spambayes\storage.pyc", line 114, in load
EOFError

If I try to access other pages, even after changing back to dbm, I this 
error if I try to review messages:


500 Server error
Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "spambayes\Dibbler.pyc", line 470, in found_terminator
   File "spambayes\ProxyUI.pyc", line 519, in onReview
   File "spambayes\ProxyUI.pyc", line 229, in _buildReviewKeys
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'keys'


Trying to adjust the advanced configuration thereafter gets this:

500 Server error
Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "spambayes\Dibbler.pyc", line 470, in found_terminator
   File "spambayes\UserInterface.pyc", line 793, in onChangeopts
   File "spambayes\ProxyUI.pyc", line 729, in reReadOptions
   File "sb_server.pyc", line 857, in _recreateState
   File "sb_server.pyc", line 686, in close
AssertionError: closed without being prepared!

If I un-install and then re-install, I can get things working again.

Thanks for any help,
Geoff
From lafauci at rcn.com  Sat Feb 12 19:11:09 2005
From: lafauci at rcn.com (william lafauci)
Date: Sat Feb 12 15:59:56 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] FS : DELIVERY FAILURE: 550-message rejected -- looks
Message-ID: <000601c5112e$3a95f0c0$12bf06d1@sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com>

i sent a message dada arellano@supercat.com.ph and it failed 550 why
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From wealthychef at yahoo.com  Sat Feb 12 20:53:32 2005
From: wealthychef at yahoo.com (Rich Cook)
Date: Sat Feb 12 20:53:36 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Re: SpamBayes: Download
Message-ID: <95053fd393484e9873239b2f8d0cd271@yahoo.com>

About your web page and product.
First, thanks for making it, I find it very useful.
But (there's always a but, isn't there?), your web page mentions that 
version 1.03 is the latest, but there is no date on the web page and I 
have no idea how to check what version I have installed.  I wonder if 
you could manage to add dates to your web page or address this "what 
version am I running?" question.   Even the web interface doesn't seem 
to address this, although it refers to a version, but it is not clear 
the version of what it is referring to.

thanks.

--
Rich "wealthychef" Cook
925-784-3077
--
"Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls 
and looks like work."  -- C.F. Edison

From sole at soleassociates.com  Sat Feb 12 23:34:49 2005
From: sole at soleassociates.com (Kenneth Sole)
Date: Sat Feb 12 23:34:18 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Duplicate messages treated differently...?
Message-ID: <000501c51153$1086e1c0$6801a8c0@kenneth00>


Hello Tony and all,

I had posted earlier about this issue, but then it did not recur...
Until today, that is:

On occasion, I receive duplicate Spams. They are identical in every
detail, but one is moved to my Spam folder, and the other is moved to
my Review folder.

Each of the messages has the same Combined Score and clues summary:

Combined Score: 45% (0.447498)
Internal ham score (*H*): 0.371119
Internal spam score (*S*): 0.266116

# ham trained on: 143
# spam trained on: 713
42 Significant Tokens
token                               spamprob         #ham  #spam
'floured'                           0.0652174           3      0
'bi:and let'                        0.14447             2      1
'process.'                          0.149485            3      2
'contributes'                       0.155172            1      0
'letting'                           0.155172            1      0
'skip:o 10'                         0.173445           33     34
'ease'                              0.200725            2      2
'bi:love the'                       0.228209            1      1
'bi:url:r url:html'                 0.228209            1      1
'when'                              0.228397           45     66
'skip:a 20'                         0.229858            7     10
'skip:k 10'                         0.269238            4      7
'give'                              0.287877           20     40
'skip:n 10'                         0.301553           15     32
'skip:u 10'                         0.30564            22     48
"you'll"                            0.317892            7     16
'skip:m 10'                         0.343713           20     52
'skip:s 10'                         0.358915           23     64
'skip:e 10'                         0.361182           21     59
'bi:the best'                       0.36651             7     20
'skip:t 10'                         0.376812           12     36
'care'                              0.378393            5     15
'skip:p 10'                         0.379167           26     79
'skip:c 10'                         0.379495           44    134
'bi:url:html proto:http'            0.385615            9     28
'skip:i 10'                         0.386699           22     69
'designer'                          0.388231            1      3
'stop'                              0.628758            4     34
'bi:to:2**0 x-mailer:none'          0.646495           40    365
'bi:header:Received:2 header:From:1' 0.720726           11    142
'subjectcharset:iso-8859-1'         0.7857              1     19
'bi:skip:s 10 skip:r 10'            0.844828            0      1
'bi:subject:  subject:@'            0.844828            0      1
'cordage'                           0.844828            0      1
'subject:&'                         0.844828            0      1
'subject:Drug'                      0.844828            0      1
'subject:hours'                     0.844828            0      1
'subject:ordering'                  0.844828            0      1
'sutra'                             0.844828            0      1
'toe'                               0.844828            0      1
'bi:skip:c 10 skip:i 10'            0.908163            0      2
'bi:virus:src="cid: proto:http'     0.990798            0     24
Message Stream

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Received: (qmail 29838 invoked by uid 107); 12 Feb 2005 22:07:49 -0000
Received: from abayonne-152-1-73-186.w83-200.abo.wanadoo.fr (HELO
reset.ru)
	(83.200.251.186)
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Subject:
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To: sole@soleassociates.com
From: "Saundra Milton" 
Message-ID: <216301c511b5$3c4bfd4a$36483149@bagcp4g>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 10:16:01 +0000
Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative";
	boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0E8C_B65A3F86.CF183D98"

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and here is the most recent log:


Loaded bayes database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Kenneth
Sole\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db'
Loaded message database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Kenneth
Sole\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db'
Bayes database initialized with 712 spam and 142 good messages
SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0.2 (January 2005) starting
(with engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004))
on Windows 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 4)
using Python 2.4 (#60, Nov 30 2004, 11:49:19) [MSC v.1310 32 bit
(Intel)]
SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Desktop/Inbox'
SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Desktop/Junk SPAM'
Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer
Message 'fwd: my new contact info' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam
classification of 'Yes'
Message 'check the site for great offfer on meds' in 'Desktop/Inbox'
had a Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'F-R-E-E Adult personals' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam
classification of 'Unsure'
FAILED to add the toolbar item 'SpamBayesCommand.Manager' -
(-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.', (0, None, 'Member not found.',
None, 0, -2147467259), None)
The above toolbar message is common - recreating the toolbar...
Message 'dude, i wrote you 10 times...' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam
classification of 'Unsure'
Training on message 'dude, i wrote you 10 times...' in 'Desktop/Junk
SPAM -  trained as spam
Training on message 'Symantec Gold Enterprise Support Phone Numbers'
in 'Desktop/Inbox -  trained as good
Message 'Prescrip&tion Drug@s within 24 hours of ordering!     d' in
'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Unsure'



Please note that the last line above refers to the message(s) in
question, but seems to indicate that it arrived only once and was
classified as "unsure."

I am certain that it is the same message by the way. The two that
appear have the same I.D. in the header.

Of course, after looking at the Clues, it would appear that the
message belongs in my Review folder only.

And finally, I run only two extremely simple rules. They each look for
certain words in the subject line and move messages meeting that
criterion to particular folders (other than my review, or spam
folders.)

As I mentioned earlier, this is no disaster, but it is odd, and I
would be curious to know what might be causing this problem.

Sincere thanks for any help on this,

--
Kenneth

   Sole & Associates, Inc.
   Box 292
   Durham, New Hampshire 03824
 Voice: 603-659-3169
   Fax: 603-659-2248
 Email: sole@soleAssociates.com
   URL: http://www.soleAssociates.com
   PGP:
http://wwwkeys.ch.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE17941C6


From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Sat Feb 12 23:43:03 2005
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Sat Feb 12 23:43:15 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Re: SpamBayes: Download
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

> But (there's always a but, isn't there?), your web page mentions that 
> version 1.03 is the latest, but there is no date on the web 
> page and I have no idea how to check what version I have installed.

If you are using the Outlook plug-in, then you can choose "Check for new
version" from the SpamBayes menu via the SpamBayes button in the toolbar.
If you are using the sb_server tray application, then you can choose "Check
for new version" from the tray's menu.

You can post a message to this mailing list, and if you haven't done so
before, you will get a message that explains various things, including what
the most recent version is.

You can simply go to the download page and look for the most recent version
(and there are release dates for all those files).

You can subscribe to the spambayes-announce mailing list, and receive an
email when a new release is done.



The web page is always up-to-date - if it says that 1.0.3 is the most
recent, then it is.  When 1.0.4 (if there is one) is released, the web page
will be updated.  When 1.1a1 is released, the web page will mention both it
and 1.0.3.

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies
(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.

From thomasgal at gmail.com  Sun Feb 13 00:10:42 2005
From: thomasgal at gmail.com (Thomas Gal)
Date: Sun Feb 13 00:10:31 2005
Subject: [SpamBayes] Thunderbird Extension?
Message-ID: <420E8CF2.2070805@natural.salk.edu>

Did anyone ever start on this? I would definitely be interested in 
participating.

-Tom
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From wealthychef at yahoo.com  Sun Feb 13 00:42:03 2005
From: wealthychef at yahoo.com (Rich Cook)
Date: Sun Feb 13 00:42:10 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Getting spambayes version (was Re: SpamBayes:
	Download)
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <5cb7593aca5619fc549dcf9d62b4d6bc@yahoo.com>

Hi, thanks for the quick response.  I actually didn't realize I was 
posting to a list!  I thought I was writing to the authors.

I already knew how to get the most recent version and such, my problem 
was knowing what version I already have.  :-)

I do not use Microsoft Windows.  I assume that a tray is something in 
the windows world.  I also do not use Outlook.  So those methods are 
not helpful to me.  Think of me as a Unix user (I run Mac OS X).

But I did discover that spambayes inserts its version into the headers 
of every email in my inbox, so that works for my purposes
.

On Feb 12, 2005, at 2:43 PM, Tony Meyer wrote:

>> But (there's always a but, isn't there?), your web page mentions that
>> version 1.03 is the latest, but there is no date on the web
>> page and I have no idea how to check what version I have installed.
>
> If you are using the Outlook plug-in, then you can choose "Check for 
> new
> version" from the SpamBayes menu via the SpamBayes button in the 
> toolbar.
> If you are using the sb_server tray application, then you can choose 
> "Check
> for new version" from the tray's menu.
>
> You can post a message to this mailing list, and if you haven't done so
> before, you will get a message that explains various things, including 
> what
> the most recent version is.
>
> You can simply go to the download page and look for the most recent 
> version
> (and there are release dates for all those files).
>
> You can subscribe to the spambayes-announce mailing list, and receive 
> an
> email when a new release is done.
>
> 
>
> The web page is always up-to-date - if it says that 1.0.3 is the most
> recent, then it is.  When 1.0.4 (if there is one) is released, the web 
> page
> will be updated.  When 1.1a1 is released, the web page will mention 
> both it
> and 1.0.3.
>
> =Tony.Meyer
>
> -- 
> Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies
> (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
> http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.
>
--
Rich "wealthychef" Cook
925-784-3077
--
"Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls 
and looks like work."  -- C.F. Edison

From wealthychef at yahoo.com  Sun Feb 13 00:47:32 2005
From: wealthychef at yahoo.com (Rich Cook)
Date: Sun Feb 13 00:47:37 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Re: SpamBayes: Download
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <65b3d24e4fdeb4445903459dad367c75@yahoo.com>

Oops, I spoke too soon.
It is SpamAssassin, not SpamBayes, that puts its version into every 
mail header.  Nice feature, that.  So, I'm stuck again.  How do I know 
what version of SpamBayes I'm running if I don't use Microsoft Windows 
or Outlook (they are both such viral agents I cannot stomach them).

At least it helps to know that the release date is on the files section 
of sourceforge, so I can guesstimate maybe by when I recall installing 
SpamBayes, but that's not the greatest method.

On Feb 12, 2005, at 2:43 PM, Tony Meyer wrote:

>> But (there's always a but, isn't there?), your web page mentions that
>> version 1.03 is the latest, but there is no date on the web
>> page and I have no idea how to check what version I have installed.
>
> If you are using the Outlook plug-in, then you can choose "Check for 
> new
> version" from the SpamBayes menu via the SpamBayes button in the 
> toolbar.
> If you are using the sb_server tray application, then you can choose 
> "Check
> for new version" from the tray's menu.
>
> You can post a message to this mailing list, and if you haven't done so
> before, you will get a message that explains various things, including 
> what
> the most recent version is.
>
> You can simply go to the download page and look for the most recent 
> version
> (and there are release dates for all those files).
>
> You can subscribe to the spambayes-announce mailing list, and receive 
> an
> email when a new release is done.
>
> 
>
> The web page is always up-to-date - if it says that 1.0.3 is the most
> recent, then it is.  When 1.0.4 (if there is one) is released, the web 
> page
> will be updated.  When 1.1a1 is released, the web page will mention 
> both it
> and 1.0.3.
>
> =Tony.Meyer
>
> -- 
> Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies
> (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
> http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.
>
--
Rich "wealthychef" Cook
925-784-3077
--
"Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls 
and looks like work."  -- C.F. Edison

From sole at soleassociates.com  Sun Feb 13 02:08:37 2005
From: sole at soleassociates.com (Kenneth Sole)
Date: Sun Feb 13 02:10:27 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Duplicate messages treated differently...?
In-Reply-To: <000501c51153$1086e1c0$6801a8c0@kenneth00>
Message-ID: <000001c51168$8ef32ea0$6901a8c0@Kitchen>

Hi again,

I just had a repeat, but this time the message had a score of 99%. As
before, one went to Spam, and one went to Review...

All the best,

-- 

Kenneth

   Sole & Associates, Inc.
   Box 292
   Durham, New Hampshire 03824

 Voice: 603-659-3169
   Fax: 603-659-2248
 Email: sole@soleAssociates.com
   URL: http://www.soleAssociates.com
   PGP: http://wwwkeys.ch.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE17941C6


-----Original Message-----
From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On
Behalf Of Kenneth Sole
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 5:35 PM
To: spambayes@python.org
Subject: [Spambayes] Duplicate messages treated differently...?


Hello Tony and all,

I had posted earlier about this issue, but then it did not recur...
Until today, that is:

On occasion, I receive duplicate Spams. They are identical in every
detail, but one is moved to my Spam folder, and the other is moved to
my Review folder.

Each of the messages has the same Combined Score and clues summary:

Combined Score: 45% (0.447498)
Internal ham score (*H*): 0.371119
Internal spam score (*S*): 0.266116

# ham trained on: 143
# spam trained on: 713
42 Significant Tokens
token                               spamprob         #ham  #spam
'floured'                           0.0652174           3      0
'bi:and let'                        0.14447             2      1
'process.'                          0.149485            3      2
'contributes'                       0.155172            1      0
'letting'                           0.155172            1      0
'skip:o 10'                         0.173445           33     34
'ease'                              0.200725            2      2
'bi:love the'                       0.228209            1      1
'bi:url:r url:html'                 0.228209            1      1
'when'                              0.228397           45     66
'skip:a 20'                         0.229858            7     10
'skip:k 10'                         0.269238            4      7
'give'                              0.287877           20     40
'skip:n 10'                         0.301553           15     32
'skip:u 10'                         0.30564            22     48
"you'll"                            0.317892            7     16
'skip:m 10'                         0.343713           20     52
'skip:s 10'                         0.358915           23     64
'skip:e 10'                         0.361182           21     59
'bi:the best'                       0.36651             7     20
'skip:t 10'                         0.376812           12     36
'care'                              0.378393            5     15
'skip:p 10'                         0.379167           26     79
'skip:c 10'                         0.379495           44    134
'bi:url:html proto:http'            0.385615            9     28
'skip:i 10'                         0.386699           22     69
'designer'                          0.388231            1      3
'stop'                              0.628758            4     34
'bi:to:2**0 x-mailer:none'          0.646495           40    365
'bi:header:Received:2 header:From:1' 0.720726           11    142
'subjectcharset:iso-8859-1'         0.7857              1     19
'bi:skip:s 10 skip:r 10'            0.844828            0      1
'bi:subject:  subject:@'            0.844828            0      1
'cordage'                           0.844828            0      1
'subject:&'                         0.844828            0      1
'subject:Drug'                      0.844828            0      1
'subject:hours'                     0.844828            0      1
'subject:ordering'                  0.844828            0      1
'sutra'                             0.844828            0      1
'toe'                               0.844828            0      1
'bi:skip:c 10 skip:i 10'            0.908163            0      2
'bi:virus:src="cid: proto:http'     0.990798            0     24
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and here is the most recent log:


Loaded bayes database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Kenneth
Sole\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db'
Loaded message database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Kenneth
Sole\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db'
Bayes database initialized with 712 spam and 142 good messages
SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0.2 (January 2005) starting
(with engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004))
on Windows 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 4)
using Python 2.4 (#60, Nov 30 2004, 11:49:19) [MSC v.1310 32 bit
(Intel)]
SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Desktop/Inbox'
SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Desktop/Junk SPAM'
Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer
Message 'fwd: my new contact info' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam
classification of 'Yes'
Message 'check the site for great offfer on meds' in 'Desktop/Inbox'
had a Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'F-R-E-E Adult personals' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam
classification of 'Unsure'
FAILED to add the toolbar item 'SpamBayesCommand.Manager' -
(-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.', (0, None, 'Member not found.',
None, 0, -2147467259), None)
The above toolbar message is common - recreating the toolbar...
Message 'dude, i wrote you 10 times...' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam
classification of 'Unsure'
Training on message 'dude, i wrote you 10 times...' in 'Desktop/Junk
SPAM -  trained as spam
Training on message 'Symantec Gold Enterprise Support Phone Numbers'
in 'Desktop/Inbox -  trained as good
Message 'Prescrip&tion Drug@s within 24 hours of ordering!     d' in
'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Unsure'



Please note that the last line above refers to the message(s) in
question, but seems to indicate that it arrived only once and was
classified as "unsure."

I am certain that it is the same message by the way. The two that
appear have the same I.D. in the header.

Of course, after looking at the Clues, it would appear that the
message belongs in my Review folder only.

And finally, I run only two extremely simple rules. They each look for
certain words in the subject line and move messages meeting that
criterion to particular folders (other than my review, or spam
folders.)

As I mentioned earlier, this is no disaster, but it is odd, and I
would be curious to know what might be causing this problem.

Sincere thanks for any help on this,

--
Kenneth

   Sole & Associates, Inc.
   Box 292
   Durham, New Hampshire 03824
 Voice: 603-659-3169
   Fax: 603-659-2248
 Email: sole@soleAssociates.com
   URL: http://www.soleAssociates.com
   PGP:
http://wwwkeys.ch.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE17941C6


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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Sun Feb 13 07:33:48 2005
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Sun Feb 13 07:34:02 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Getting spambayes version (was Re: SpamBayes:
	Download)
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

> I already knew how to get the most recent version and such, 
> my problem was knowing what version I already have.  :-)

Sorry - I misread your question.

> I do not use Microsoft Windows.
[...]
> Think of me as a Unix user (I run Mac OS X).

You mentioned the web interface, so I presume you're using sb_server or
sb_imapfilter.  The version at the bottom of each page (which I presume is
the one you're referring to) is the correct version.  So, e.g., the 1.0.3
release (from January 2005) has:

"""
SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 1.0.3 (January 2005)
Spambayes Web Interface, 19:28 on Sunday February 13 2005. Spambayes.org
"""

The scripts also output the version number to stdout - if you're running the
scripts from a terminal window then it will be there, or if you pipe the
output to a log file or something, then there.

We could add a "check for new version" function to the web interface, I
guess.  If you'd like this (it'd be mostly useful for Mac/*nix users, since
the Windows people have the other methods), then feel free to open a feature
request tracker for it () and I'll get to
it at some point (before 1.1b1, probably, but not before 1.1a1).

(If you're not using the web interface, then I think sb_filter and the like
print out the version to stdout if you do something like sb_filter.py
--help).

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies
(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Sun Feb 13 07:37:10 2005
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Sun Feb 13 07:37:23 2005
Subject: [SpamBayes] Thunderbird Extension?
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

> Did anyone ever start on this? I would definitely be interested in 
> participating.

I believe that the last we heard was that the Thunderbird people were
planning on adopting classifier/tokenizer features from SpamBayes (including
the unsure range) into the built-in spam filter.

I have no idea whether this went any future within the Thunderbird project.
Certainly nothing further has been heard here.

However, if it's not hard to write a Thunderbird extension in Python (I have
no idea whether it is or not) then it would be no harder to write a
SpamBayes one.  If you can get the shell of a Thunderbird extension
together, then we're happy to help with the SpamBayes bits.

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies
(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
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From crasch at openknowledge.org  Sun Feb 13 11:11:18 2005
From: crasch at openknowledge.org (Christopher rasch)
Date: Sun Feb 13 11:11:21 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] How to configure for multiple IMAP accounts? 
Message-ID: <9A528AF0-7DA7-11D9-BBB8-00039366A582@openknowledge.org>

Hi,

I have three separate IMAP accounts (two for work, one personal).  I 
was wondering how I could set up separate SpamBayes configuration files 
for each account.  According to the documentation this should be 
possible:

"If you use more than one server, then things are a bit more 
complicated for you at the moment, sorry. You will need to have 
multiple instances of the imap filter running, each with a different 
server (and possibly username and password) value. You can do this if 
you have a different configuration file for each instance, but you'll 
have to do it by hand for the moment. Please let the mailing list know 
if you are in this situation so that we can consider coming up with a 
better solution."

But I'm not sure how to tell each instance where to find the 
appropriate config file.  I'm also wondering if each instance can use 
the same hammie.db and spambayes.messageinfo.db, or if each one needs a 
separate version of each.

Thanks in advance for any informtion you may wish to provide.

Chris

From nickf at doxpop.com  Sun Feb 13 17:29:29 2005
From: nickf at doxpop.com (Nick Fankhauser)
Date: Sun Feb 13 17:26:11 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] How to configure for multiple IMAP accounts?
In-Reply-To: <9A528AF0-7DA7-11D9-BBB8-00039366A582@openknowledge.org>
References: <9A528AF0-7DA7-11D9-BBB8-00039366A582@openknowledge.org>
Message-ID: <420F8069.3040305@doxpop.com>

Hi Christopher-

I was faced with a similar problem and ended up taking the brute force approach of simply installing spambayes separately in three different directories. This is ungraceful, but simple as I didn't have to mess with any of the settings. I'm sure there is a better approach but if nothing else is offered, give it a try.

Although that approach worked, I've since done something different that I recommend if you have the option. I've set up two of my email accounts to forward all messages to the third, and then run spambayes only on that one account. From the point of view of spam filtering, this means I only have to train one instance of Spambayes. However, the real administrative savings is elsewhere. I make heavy use of rule-based filtering to sort my incoming mail into appropriate folders. with this method, I have one set of rules and one set of folders instead of three almost identical sets to administer.

The two things I had to do is make an entry in the .forward file on the two unix boxes that house my ancillary accounts and to add a filtering rule in my main account's inbox to filter each of the three incoming mail streams based on the "To:" address. If you don't have access to configure the accounts, I think you'll find that most ISPs or Sysadmins are able to set up forwarding for you.

So... Two solutions- neither is the one you asked for, but I hope this helps.

Regards,
     -Nick

------------------------------------------------------------------
Nick Fankhauser    

     nickf@doxpop.com   Phone 765.965.7363   Fax 765.962.9788
Doxpop - Access to county court records without leaving your desk.
                       http://www.doxpop.com
 

Christopher rasch wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have three separate IMAP accounts (two for work, one personal).  I was 
> wondering how I could set up separate SpamBayes configuration files for 
> each account.  According to the documentation this should be possible:
> 
> "If you use more than one server, then things are a bit more complicated 
> for you at the moment, sorry. You will need to have multiple instances 
> of the imap filter running, each with a different server (and possibly 
> username and password) value. You can do this if you have a different 
> configuration file for each instance, but you'll have to do it by hand 
> for the moment. Please let the mailing list know if you are in this 
> situation so that we can consider coming up with a better solution."
> 
> But I'm not sure how to tell each instance where to find the appropriate 
> config file.  I'm also wondering if each instance can use the same 
> hammie.db and spambayes.messageinfo.db, or if each one needs a separate 
> version of each.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any informtion you may wish to provide.
> 
> Chris
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Spambayes@python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes
> Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html
From crasch at openknowledge.org  Sun Feb 13 19:37:10 2005
From: crasch at openknowledge.org (Christopher rasch)
Date: Sun Feb 13 19:37:13 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] How to configure for multiple IMAP accounts?
In-Reply-To: <420F8069.3040305@doxpop.com>
References: <9A528AF0-7DA7-11D9-BBB8-00039366A582@openknowledge.org>
	<420F8069.3040305@doxpop.com>
Message-ID: <45C01F42-7DEE-11D9-833A-00039366A582@openknowledge.org>

Hi Nick,

Thanks!  The mail forwarding idea would work for two of my accounts, 
but one of my work IMAP accounts is a shared account that I can't 
forward.  So I would still need to set it up for two.

It looks like sb_imapfilter looks for the ini file in whatever 
directory you run sb_imapfilter.  I wonder if I could just move each 
ini file, along with the associated hammie.db and  
spambayes.messageinfo.db files into separate directories for each 
account, and just start each instance from the appropriate directory.  
However, if there is a canonical way to configure spambayes for 
multiple IMAP, I'd prefer to do that.

Oh, and I also forgot to mention my operating system in my earlier 
message: Mac OS X, v.10.3.

Chris


On Feb 13, 2005, at 11:29 AM, Nick Fankhauser wrote:

> Hi Christopher-
>
> I was faced with a similar problem and ended up taking the brute force 
> approach of simply installing spambayes separately in three different 
> directories. This is ungraceful, but simple as I didn't have to mess 
> with any of the settings. I'm sure there is a better approach but if 
> nothing else is offered, give it a try.
>
> Although that approach worked, I've since done something different 
> that I recommend if you have the option. I've set up two of my email 
> accounts to forward all messages to the third, and then run spambayes 
> only on that one account. From the point of view of spam filtering, 
> this means I only have to train one instance of Spambayes. However, 
> the real administrative savings is elsewhere. I make heavy use of 
> rule-based filtering to sort my incoming mail into appropriate 
> folders. with this method, I have one set of rules and one set of 
> folders instead of three almost identical sets to administer.
>
> The two things I had to do is make an entry in the .forward file on 
> the two unix boxes that house my ancillary accounts and to add a 
> filtering rule in my main account's inbox to filter each of the three 
> incoming mail streams based on the "To:" address. If you don't have 
> access to configure the accounts, I think you'll find that most ISPs 
> or Sysadmins are able to set up forwarding for you.
>
> So... Two solutions- neither is the one you asked for, but I hope this 
> helps.
>
> Regards,
>     -Nick
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> Nick Fankhauser
>     nickf@doxpop.com   Phone 765.965.7363   Fax 765.962.9788
> Doxpop - Access to county court records without leaving your desk.
>                       http://www.doxpop.com
>
> Christopher rasch wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I have three separate IMAP accounts (two for work, one personal).  I 
>> was wondering how I could set up separate SpamBayes configuration 
>> files for each account.  According to the documentation this should 
>> be possible:
>> "If you use more than one server, then things are a bit more 
>> complicated for you at the moment, sorry. You will need to have 
>> multiple instances of the imap filter running, each with a different 
>> server (and possibly username and password) value. You can do this if 
>> you have a different configuration file for each instance, but you'll 
>> have to do it by hand for the moment. Please let the mailing list 
>> know if you are in this situation so that we can consider coming up 
>> with a better solution."
>> But I'm not sure how to tell each instance where to find the 
>> appropriate config file.  I'm also wondering if each instance can use 
>> the same hammie.db and spambayes.messageinfo.db, or if each one needs 
>> a separate version of each.
>> Thanks in advance for any informtion you may wish to provide.
>> Chris
>> _______________________________________________
>> Spambayes@python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes
>> Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html
>
>

From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Mon Feb 14 00:08:53 2005
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Mon Feb 14 00:09:02 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] How to configure for multiple IMAP accounts? 
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

> I have three separate IMAP accounts (two for work, one personal).  I 
> was wondering how I could set up separate SpamBayes 
> configuration files for each account.
[...]
> But I'm not sure how to tell each instance where to find the 
> appropriate config file.

The script (any SpamBayes script) will try and find configuration files that
are in the BAYESCUSTOMIZE environment variable, or called .spambayesrc in
your home directory, or bayescustomize.ini in the current working directory.

So you can call the script from different directories, e.g.:

 account1/> python /path/to/spambayes/scripts/sb_imapfilter.py -c -t

 account2/> python /path/to/spambayes/scripts/sb_imapfilter.py -c -t

Or setup the BAYESCUSTOMIZE environment variable for each one, e.g.:

 env BAYESCUSTOMIZE=/path/to/config/account1.ini python
scripts/sb_imapfilter.py -c -t

 env BAYESCUSTOMIZE=/path/to/config/account2.ini python
scripts/sb_imapfilter.py -c -t

Or (and this is possibly the simplest) you can use the -o command line
option to specify the options you wish to set, e.g.:

 python scripts/sb_imapfilter.py -c -t -o imap:username:user1 -o
imap:password:pass1 -o imap:server:server1.example.com

 python scripts/sb_imapfilter.py -c -t -o imap:username:user2 -o
imap:password:pass2 -o imap:server:server2.example.com

> I'm also wondering if each instance can use 
> the same hammie.db and spambayes.messageinfo.db, or if each 
> one needs a separate version of each.

You shouldn't have any problems sharing if all the script is doing is
classifying.  However, if they are also going to be training, then that is a
problem.  Using a separate database for each would solve that, although that
would seem a right PITA to me.

The right way to solve this, I think, is to say that you'd like this solved
(ideally, fill out a feature request on sourceforge:
) and I'll get to this for 1.1a1.

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies
(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.

From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Mon Feb 14 00:18:34 2005
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Mon Feb 14 00:18:43 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Run filter and only return a report???
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

> Thanks so much for the code.  It looks like I should be able 
> to make use of one of those methods.

No worries; glad to help.  This seemed like a useful enough kind of thing,
so I added a slightly cleaned up version of the script (with HTML optional)
to the contrib directory.  It'll be in 1.1, or you can get it from CVS.



> I will add Python to the top of my list of additional languages to 
> learn.  I just need to remove all remaining knowledge of 
> FORTRAN and Ada to make room.  8^)

:)

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies
(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.

From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Mon Feb 14 00:25:07 2005
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Mon Feb 14 00:25:13 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] New user, issues with command line use
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

>>   * You can use sb_filter (-g or -s) to train a single message.
> 
> I've been experimenting with this method but I was puzzled why the 
> .hammiedb was not being updated.  Then I realized that since I was 
> having it run through an E-mail alias the sb_filter program was being 
> run as user "mail" and sure enough the ~mail/.hammiedb file was being 
> updated each time, not exactly the effect I was going for.
> 
> I tried to run it with -d ~user/.hammiedb but that didn't 
> seem to work either.

That ought to have worked.  Did it fail to run/update, or keep updating the
~mail/.hammiedb file?

> Ah, I see.  The problem is that my users will be forwarding the 
> messages.  Ugh.

Can you trust them enough to forward them in a fairly pristine manner?  If
the forwarded messages can be in any format, then you might end up with some
quite odd effects.

> We also use IMAP here exclusively so the POP3 proxy 
> won't help me anyway.

Are you wanting to train individual databases for each user, or one global
one?  If the latter, can you make a write-only IMAP mailbox that's
accessible to everyone?  If so you could use sb_imapfilter to do the
training.  If the former, you could probably still do this with
sb_imapfilter.

=Tony.Meyer

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From anthony at interlink.com.au  Mon Feb 14 03:46:25 2005
From: anthony at interlink.com.au (Anthony Baxter)
Date: Mon Feb 14 03:46:41 2005
Subject: [SpamBayes] Thunderbird Extension?
In-Reply-To: <420E8CF2.2070805@natural.salk.edu>
References: <420E8CF2.2070805@natural.salk.edu>
Message-ID: <200502141346.26091.anthony@interlink.com.au>

On Sunday 13 February 2005 10:10, Thomas Gal wrote:
> Did anyone ever start on this? I would definitely be interested in
> participating.

I think I commented at one point that I was going to look into it.
I didn't get very far before I switched from Thunderbird to Kmail
(tbird's memory usage was driving me insane). The next minor
version of KDE has some support for SB, and the next major
release will have pretty complete support.


-- 
Anthony Baxter     
It's never too late to have a happy childhood.
From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Mon Feb 14 06:48:15 2005
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Mon Feb 14 06:48:26 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Errors with selecting other databases
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

> Hi all.  I'm running SpamBayes 1.0.3 proxy (not OL plugin) on Windows 
> 2000 Pro using Python 2.4.  Whenever I pick a different database (I 
> tried MySQL and pickle), I get this error:
> 
> 500 Server error
> Traceback (most recent call last):
[...]
>    File "spambayes\storage.pyc", line 114, in load
> EOFError
[...]

IIRC, 1.0.x won't let you change the database type via the web interface if
you don't change the name as well (this is a bug) because it will try to
open the existing database as the new format, which won't work.  Making the
change, removing the existing file, and restarting (or using a different
name; except that I think the name and type are on different pages), should
work, I believe.

=Tony.Meyer

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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Mon Feb 14 08:39:37 2005
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Mon Feb 14 08:39:47 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] RE: [spambayes-dev] Spam-Bayes and Poco Mai - a
	beginners question.l
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

[Note that the spambayes-dev list is for discussion about the development of
spambayes.  Questions, help requests and bug reports belong on the
spambayes@python.org list: ]

> I have set Poco to pick up mail from port 110 the default
> setting of SB and have set SB to default settings except
> for the ISP routing.
>
> SB is picking up and filtering messages,

Definitely?  If you go to the review page are messages listed there?

> but Poco shows
> the same messages without any SB headings and thus can
> do no sorting of the mail.

Are you displaying all headers?  (The "headers" button does this).

> I suspect I should be setting Poco to go to local host 8880
> rather than 110; however if I do that Poco apparently cannot
> log in to anything. 

No -  is the address for the web interface.  It's
only for use with a web browser.  The POP3 proxy is recommended to be on
port 110.

> Can you clarify the installation instructions to explain which
> local host should be used to set my mail program?

Whichever you entered in the second box on the configuration page.  It
recommends 110, but you can use anything that isn't already being used.

> There is a firewall (Zone Alarm), but this is would seem not
> to be the problem since SB is accessing my mail.

It shouldn't be relevant to this, but be aware of FAQ 5.5:



=Tony.Meyer

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From xpoirier at ch-bourg01.fr  Mon Feb 14 09:02:15 2005
From: xpoirier at ch-bourg01.fr (Xavier Poirier)
Date: Mon Feb 14 09:05:39 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] email with message contradictuous content
Message-ID: <1108368135.42105b07cf096@hermesadm.chb.fr>

Seems my message got no anwser ...
I got more and more of this types of email, don't now what to do with
this.
Here it was :

Hi Spambayers!

Good product, congratulation for your excelent work!

I have this problem since some weeks ago:

some email messages (evidently spam) have this structure (One example
received this morning) - The last part of the message contains some
words completly mixed hasardous :

*********************************************************************

Finally a place for the sexually-liberated
find the love and romance you deserve!

FuLl list : http://wallofcorals.com/dc1r.html





filigree liablefinland arrest providemcneil
gothic commonplaceyokel teleconference bedstrawrhombi
spirit activatebookish heartbeat inhibitorymainline
pour shortcomingairspace parsonage emaciatecliffhang
burlington pulloverdoormen

*********************************************************************

I don't want to add these message in the database of SpamBayes cause I
think there can be words in the last part of message that I don't want
to STOP!We receive this type of message more and more often these days...

I don't know if this as been discuted here before, and if there is an
answer for stopping these type of emails messages?

Sorry for my poor english, I hope my message is comprehensible at end...

Xavier


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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Mon Feb 14 09:11:16 2005
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Mon Feb 14 09:13:13 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Speeding up Outlook plugin
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

> Is there any way to speed up processing of messages by SB? 

If you use a pickle for storage rather than the default bsddb opening
Outlook and training will be slower, but classifying should be faster.  (You
can only do this with the source version or the upcoming 1.1).

Scoring from a pst file is probably faster than from Exchange (because
SpamBayes has to pull down the message content, which is probably going to
be quicker with a local file than via the network), if that is possible.

Do you have any experimental options enabled?  Some of those may slow
scoring down.

I was offered a pyrex version of the main classifier code, which would speed
things up a bit (in 1.1), but that hasn't arrived yet.  It's possible that
we might work on speed, but I suspect that this would be after 1.1.

> By any chance, you haven't heard of any SB implementation 
> (barring the Outlook plugin) that is able to scan an Exchange 
> mailbox using its native MAPI/whatever protocol even when the 
> user is not interactively logged on (kind of a service/daemon thing)?

Is this for just one user?  In other words do the Outlook plug-in's scoring
job without Outlook being open?  Or is this running on the server?  There's
some information about doing the latter on
.  We could create a script for the
former, I suppose, but you would still be logged in really, just not through
Outlook.  It would be much simpler to just have Outlook open.

=Tony.Meyer

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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Mon Feb 14 09:16:30 2005
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Mon Feb 14 09:16:48 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] email with message contradictuous content
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

> Seems my message got no anwser ...

It's forth on my list of ones to do.  It's a busy time at moment.

> some email messages (evidently spam) have this structure (One example
> received this morning) - The last part of the message contains some
> words completly mixed hasardous :
[...]
> I don't want to add these message in the database of SpamBayes cause I
> think there can be words in the last part of message that I don't want
> to STOP!We receive this type of message more and more often 
> these days...
> 
> I don't know if this as been discuted here before, and if there is an
> answer for stopping these type of emails messages?

This sort of thing is commonly called "word salad".  If you continue
training on the messages as normal (i.e. just unsures and mistakes) it
shouldn't effect classification results at all.  Many of these words will
have never been seen in ham, so will be correctly spammy, and those that
have will just be less strongly ham.  A ham message should easily have
enough ham clues to still be classified correctly.

All in all, it's not really a problem.  If you actually find that you're
getting classification errors as a result, please send us a copy of the spam
clues for a message that gets incorrectly classified (before training).

=Tony.Meyer

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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Mon Feb 14 09:35:16 2005
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Mon Feb 14 09:36:29 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] picture ads
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

> Spam Bayes has worked great for me, except for one thing:
> most of the spam I'm getting now in my inbox are picture
> ads disguised with innocuous text.or no text. (usually drug
> ads)  I'm concerned that Spam Bayes only trains on the text,
> and if I keep "deleting as spam" these ads, I'll train
> SpamBayes into false positives.

No text is fine, because there are lots of tokens in the headers that will
be used.  Innocuous text might be a problem - it really depends how often
those words appear in spam compared to ham.  If they're just random words,
then it's probably still fine.

The best thing to do, IMO, would be to keep training as usual, and see if
things improve.  If you do end up with more good mail in your unsure folder
(possibly, though I suspect not) then we'll have to figure something out.

Countering this type of spam is difficult, because no-one has a way of
converting a picture to something like "lots of white pills", which we could
use.  OTOH, many mailers don't show images by default any more, which means
that this type of spam isn't effective for the spammer, either.

I wonder whether generating tokens from the image would work (simple ones
that aren't particularly time consuming).  This sort of thing is used in
some image algorithms (e.g. cascades of haar-like classifiers for face
detection), so it's feasible that it would both work and be fast enough - it
really depends whether suitable classifiers can be found that differentiate
between ham images and spam ones.

I'd quite like to do some research into this, but (a) I don't have the time
right and the moment, and (b) either I get just about no spam like this, or
if I do, it's all classified correctly and I don't notice it.

=Tony.Meyer

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From xpoirier at ch-bourg01.fr  Mon Feb 14 09:53:05 2005
From: xpoirier at ch-bourg01.fr (Xavier Poirier)
Date: Mon Feb 14 09:56:30 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] email with message contradictuous content
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <1108371185.421066f1bdf36@hermesadm.chb.fr>

En r?ponse ? Tony Meyer :

Thanks Tony for your quick reply.
I will try to train theses type of email as spam, and see what happen ...
Have a nice day

Xavier  


> > Seems my message got no anwser ...
> 
> It's forth on my list of ones to do.  It's a busy time at
> moment.
> 
> > some email messages (evidently spam) have this structure
> (One example
> > received this morning) - The last part of the message
> contains some
> > words completly mixed hasardous :
> [...]
> > I don't want to add these message in the database of
> SpamBayes cause I
> > think there can be words in the last part of message that I
> don't want
> > to STOP!We receive this type of message more and more often
> 
> > these days...
> > 
> > I don't know if this as been discuted here before, and if
> there is an
> > answer for stopping these type of emails messages?
> 
> This sort of thing is commonly called "word salad".  If you
> continue
> training on the messages as normal (i.e. just unsures and
> mistakes) it
> shouldn't effect classification results at all.  Many of these
> words will
> have never been seen in ham, so will be correctly spammy, and
> those that
> have will just be less strongly ham.  A ham message should
> easily have
> enough ham clues to still be classified correctly.
> 
> All in all, it's not really a problem.  If you actually find
> that you're
> getting classification errors as a result, please send us a
> copy of the spam
> clues for a message that gets incorrectly classified (before
> training).
> 
> =Tony.Meyer
> 
> -- 
> Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your
> replies
> (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about
> SpamBayes.
> http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html
> explains this.
> 



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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Mon Feb 14 09:56:45 2005
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Mon Feb 14 09:57:05 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Review page in Firefox
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

> The review page http://localhost:8880/review works 
> differently in Firefox than it does in IE :-(

True.  (Any page with a form will).

> In IE 6, I noticed that if I change some of the radio buttons 
> from their default settings (change some Unsure to to Spam, some
> Ham to Spam, etc) and scroll down the page somewhat, then click
> on the subject line of (any) message to read it, when I come
> back (click the back button or press Alt-Left) I return to the
> same place on the screen (scrolled to the same 
> point) and all the same radio buttons are still set.
[...]
> Grrrr. Please don't tell me there's something IE does better 
> than Firefox. 
> Can't be. Please...

Sorry, but it is.  (Possibly the Firefox people will tell you that their
behaviour is more correct.  But whatever).

There's an open bug report about this:

[ 915466 ] Sorting review page loses classifications



And this feature request is related:

[ 993679 ] Remember place on review page when viewing message


For the moment, if you center-click and open the message in a new tab
(there's your Firefox advantage for you) that should work.  Setting messages
(and the clues/tokens list) to open in a new window would work, but people
tend to dislike pages that open other pages in new windows.  Maybe some
funky javascript stuff could do it.  Just haven't had time to get to it,
really.  I will at some point.

=Tony.Meyer

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From kenny.pitt at gmail.com  Mon Feb 14 15:38:18 2005
From: kenny.pitt at gmail.com (Kenny Pitt)
Date: Mon Feb 14 15:38:23 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] FS : DELIVERY FAILURE: 550-message rejected -- looks
In-Reply-To: <000601c5112e$3a95f0c0$12bf06d1@sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com>
Message-ID: <4210b7dd.681cd1f8.68ab.15a3@smtp.gmail.com>

This is completely unrelated to SpamBayes, but I'll give you what little I
know about it.  A 550 status indicates that, for some reason, the receiving
mail server did not understand the commands that your sending mail server
was giving it.  Exactly what the problem was depends on what software is
being used on each end of the mail conversation.  Here's one example:
 
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q100352/
 
 
It seems that some mail servers will also return a 550 status if they think
the mail you are sending is spam.  Here is an example response pulled from
some of the mailing list archives:
    (reason: 550 We don't accept spam mail cj1288)
-- 
Kenny Pitt
 

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From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On
Behalf Of william lafauci
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 1:11 PM
To: spambayes@python.org
Cc: william lafauci
Subject: [Spambayes] FS : DELIVERY FAILURE: 550-message rejected -- looks


i sent a message dada arellano@supercat.com.ph and it failed 550 why
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From greg at gulik.org  Mon Feb 14 16:50:41 2005
From: greg at gulik.org (Gregory Gulik)
Date: Mon Feb 14 16:50:58 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] New user, issues with command line use
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <4210C8D1.6070008@gulik.org>



Tony Meyer wrote:
>>I tried to run it with -d ~user/.hammiedb but that didn't 
>>seem to work either.
> 
> That ought to have worked.  Did it fail to run/update, or keep updating the
> ~mail/.hammiedb file?

when I run it from the script with the following command line:
/usr/bin/sb_filter.py -d ~greg/.hammiedb -s

The file does not seem to be updated:
[root@server bin]# ls -l ~greg/.hammiedb
-rw-rw----    1 greg     mail       684032 Feb 10 11:36 /home/greg/.hammiedb

The file is RW to group mail since it will be run as user "mail"
I get the following traceback:

Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/usr/bin/sb_filter.py", line 258, in ?
     main()
   File "/usr/bin/sb_filter.py", line 249, in main
     action(msg)
   File "/usr/bin/sb_filter.py", line 193, in train_spam
     self.open('c')
   File "/usr/bin/sb_filter.py", line 164, in open
     self.h = hammie.open(self.dbname, self.usedb, self.mode)
   File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/spambayes/hammie.py", line 
267, in open
     return Hammie(storage.open_storage(filename, useDB, mode))
   File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/spambayes/storage.py", line 
708, in open_storage
     return klass(data_source_name, mode)
   File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/spambayes/storage.py", line 
187, in __init__
     self.load()
   File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/spambayes/storage.py", line 
212, in load
     self.dbm = dbmstorage.open(self.db_name, self.mode)
   File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/spambayes/dbmstorage.py", line 
65, in open    return f(db_name, mode)
   File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/spambayes/dbmstorage.py", line 
38, in open_best
     return f(*args)
   File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/spambayes/dbmstorage.py", line 
20, in open_dbhash
     return bsddb.hashopen(*args)
bsddb.error: (2, 'No such file or directory')



> Can you trust them enough to forward them in a fairly pristine manner?  If
> the forwarded messages can be in any format, then you might end up with some
> quite odd effects.

Yeah, there are only a few so I can probably do that.  It would be 
REALLY nice to have a Mozilla Mail plug-in to do the reporting in the 
proper format.

> Are you wanting to train individual databases for each user, or one global
> one?  If the latter, can you make a write-only IMAP mailbox that's
> accessible to everyone?  If so you could use sb_imapfilter to do the
> training.  If the former, you could probably still do this with
> sb_imapfilter.

Ideally I'd like one for each user.  They each get different mailing 
lists that might resemble SPAM to other users.

-- 
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greg @ gulik.org

From wealthychef at yahoo.com  Mon Feb 14 19:03:41 2005
From: wealthychef at yahoo.com (Rich Cook)
Date: Mon Feb 14 19:03:45 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Key error
Message-ID: <87f512c2dbc69a67211f09f32f452124@yahoo.com>

Hi,
I'm getting the following error when I run sb_server.py.  I know Apple 
tends to put their own python in a funny place, but I seem to be 
picking up the same python regardless.  here is some sys info (it's Mac 
OS X 10.3.7)
rcook@Richs-Computer (Downloads): uname -a
Darwin Richs-Computer.local 7.7.0 Darwin Kernel Version 7.7.0: Sun Nov  
7 16:06:51 PST 2004; root:xnu/xnu-517.9.5.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC  Power 
Macintosh powerpc

Here's how I installed spambayes:

rcook@Richs-Computer (spambayes-1.0.3): sudo python setup.py install

Here's where python lives:
rcook@Richs-Computer (spambayes-1.0.3): type python
python is hashed (/sw/bin/python)

Here's the error:
rcook@Richs-Computer (Downloads): sb_server.py
Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/sw/bin/sb_server.py", line 104, in ?
     import spambayes.message
   File "/sw/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/message.py", line 
220, in ?
     msginfoDB = MessageInfoPickle(message_info_db_name)
   File "/sw/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/message.py", line 
148, in __init__
     self.load()
   File "/sw/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/message.py", line 
160, in load
     self.db = pickle.load(fp)
   File "/sw/src/root-python23-2.3.4-2/sw/lib/python2.3/pickle.py", line 
1390, in load
     return Unpickler(file).load()
   File "/sw/src/root-python23-2.3.4-2/sw/lib/python2.3/pickle.py", line 
872, in load
     dispatch[key](self)
KeyError: '\x00'

Any help?  Thanks.

--
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925-784-3077
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From rencoret at optushome.com.au  Mon Feb 14 22:20:16 2005
From: rencoret at optushome.com.au (Rudy Rencoret)
Date: Mon Feb 14 23:03:46 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject)
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From JOHNDOLPAT at aol.com  Tue Feb 15 00:35:44 2005
From: JOHNDOLPAT at aol.com (JOHNDOLPAT@aol.com)
Date: Tue Feb 15 00:45:58 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] get you pop-up off my decktop page
Message-ID: 

Your marketing with spam pop-ups is obnoxious. To do something so pushy and  
invasive is not the earmark of a reputable company. Get your crummy add off my 
 decktop page!!! Hell will freeze over before I will click "yes" to your 
rotten  ad which confronts me 24/7. Just drop dead, but get your stinking ad off 
my desk  top page before you do!
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From robert.mezzone at pjsolomon.com  Tue Feb 15 00:58:28 2005
From: robert.mezzone at pjsolomon.com (Robert Mezzone)
Date: Tue Feb 15 00:58:30 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] get you pop-up off my decktop page
Message-ID: 

What exactly are you referring too? I think you are barking up the wrong tree here. Spambayes has to be installed by a user, it doesn't get installed by itself.

Your loss. It's hands down, the best program on the internet.

Robert


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From: spambayes-bounces@python.org 
To: spambayes@python.org 
Sent: Mon Feb 14 18:35:44 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] get you pop-up off my decktop page

Your marketing with spam pop-ups is obnoxious. To do something so pushy and invasive is not the earmark of a reputable company. Get your crummy add off my decktop page!!! Hell will freeze over before I will click "yes" to your rotten ad which confronts me 24/7. Just drop dead, but get your stinking ad off my desk top page before you do!
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From tim.peters at gmail.com  Tue Feb 15 01:47:36 2005
From: tim.peters at gmail.com (Tim Peters)
Date: Tue Feb 15 01:47:41 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] get you pop-up off my decktop page
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <1f7befae050214164726ab387f@mail.gmail.com>

[JOHNDOLPAT@aol.com]
> Your marketing with spam pop-ups is obnoxious.

Sorry, but this project does no advertising of any kind.  We have
nothing to sell (although we write software anyone can use for free),
and because we sell nothing we have no revenue to pay for ads (even if
we wanted to -- which we don't).

> To do something so pushy and invasive is not the earmark of a reputable
> company.

This project isn't run by a company, either -- we're all volunteers
here.  Nobody here is paid.

> Get your crummy add off my decktop page!!! Hell will freeze over before I will
> click "yes" to your rotten ad which confronts me 24/7. Just drop dead, but get
> your stinking ad off my desk top page before you do!

Honest, nobody here has any idea what you're ranting about.  Why do
you think the SpamBayes project has something to do with whatever it
is you're unhappy about?  For example, what is the content of the
"rotten ad"?  What it is advertising?  Does it actually mentions
SpamBayes?  That would be very interesting, if so.
From Billing at paypal.com  Sun Feb 13 13:19:46 2005
From: Billing at paypal.com (Paypal Billing)
Date: Tue Feb 15 02:56:37 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Paypal Account Security Measurs
Message-ID: 

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From gtc at cheshirelaw.com  Tue Feb 15 04:52:37 2005
From: gtc at cheshirelaw.com (Geoffrey T. Cheshire)
Date: Tue Feb 15 04:52:46 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Errors with selecting other databases
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: <003c01c51311$ca7abba0$9902a8c0@aragon>

OK -- thanks for the tip.  I'll look into that.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] 
Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 10:48 PM
To: 'Geoffrey T. Cheshire'; spambayes@python.org
Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Errors with selecting other databases


> Hi all.  I'm running SpamBayes 1.0.3 proxy (not OL plugin) on Windows
> 2000 Pro using Python 2.4.  Whenever I pick a different database (I 
> tried MySQL and pickle), I get this error:
> 
> 500 Server error
> Traceback (most recent call last):
[...]
>    File "spambayes\storage.pyc", line 114, in load
> EOFError
[...]

IIRC, 1.0.x won't let you change the database type via the web interface if
you don't change the name as well (this is a bug) because it will try to
open the existing database as the new format, which won't work.  Making the
change, removing the existing file, and restarting (or using a different
name; except that I think the name and type are on different pages), should
work, I believe.

=Tony.Meyer

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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Tue Feb 15 04:59:18 2005
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Tue Feb 15 04:59:30 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Key error
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

> I'm getting the following error when I run sb_server.py.
[...]
> Here's the error:
> rcook@Richs-Computer (Downloads): sb_server.py
> Traceback (most recent call last):
[...]
>    File 
> "/sw/src/root-python23-2.3.4-2/sw/lib/python2.3/pickle.py", line 
> 872, in load
>      dispatch[key](self)
> KeyError: '\x00'

SpamBayes is unable to load the messageinfo database pickle.  Either the
pickle is bad (which is rare - but something like a crash during training
could cause it) or it's trying to open something that isn't a pickle as a
pickle (e.g. the persistent_storage_name points to a bsddb db, but
persistent_use_database is set to pickle).

Either of these sound right?  If the former, then just delete the
messageinfo pickle.  If the later, then either the name or the use_database
option needs to be changed (or, again, remove the existing file).

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies
(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.

From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Tue Feb 15 05:13:03 2005
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Tue Feb 15 05:13:14 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] New user, issues with command line use
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

> when I run it from the script with the following command line:
> /usr/bin/sb_filter.py -d ~greg/.hammiedb -s
> 
> The file does not seem to be updated:
> [root@server bin]# ls -l ~greg/.hammiedb
> -rw-rw----    1 greg     mail       684032 Feb 10 11:36 
> /home/greg/.hammiedb
> 
> The file is RW to group mail since it will be run as user "mail"
> I get the following traceback:
> 
> Traceback (most recent call last):
[...]
>    File 
> "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/spambayes/dbmstorage.py", line 
> 20, in open_dbhash
>      return bsddb.hashopen(*args)
> bsddb.error: (2, 'No such file or directory')

I see in your ls that ~greg/ gets expanded into /home/greg/ (I'm not
familiar with a shell that lets you do this).  I suspect that if you use
~/greg/.hammie.db (i.e. have the extra slash), like this:

/usr/bin/sb_filter.py -d ~/greg/.hammedb -s

it may work.

> Yeah, there are only a few so I can probably do that.  It would be 
> REALLY nice to have a Mozilla Mail plug-in to do the reporting in the 
> proper format.

You could write one, of course <0.5 wink>.

>> Are you wanting to train individual databases for each 
>> user, or one global one?
> 
> Ideally I'd like one for each user.

I think sb_imapfilter.py could work here.  Something like (the command line
options could be in configuration files instead):

/usr/bin/sb_imapfilter.py -d /home/user1/.hammiedb -o imap:server:localhost
-o imap:username:user1 -o imap:password:pass1 -o
imap:spam_train_folders:INBOX.TrainSpam -o
imap:ham_train_folders:INBOX.TrainHam

Multiplied by the number of users, and put into a batch file to be run with
cron or something.  (The users would just put a copy of any mail to be
trained in the TrainSpam/TrainHam folders).

If the imap mail is stored somewhere in something like mbox then
sb_filter/sb_mboxtrain would be simpler and work as well, though.

=Tony.Meyer

From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Tue Feb 15 05:14:53 2005
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Tue Feb 15 05:15:00 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

> Does SpamBayes work for Mozila Thurnderbird?

There isn't a plug-in like there is for Microsoft Outlook.  However, the
POP3 proxy (or IMAP filter, depending on how you get your mail) will give
the same results, just with a less integrated interface.

(Or, in a word: "yes").

=Tony.Meyer

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From bi77p at attglobal.net  Tue Feb 15 06:40:08 2005
From: bi77p at attglobal.net (peter)
Date: Tue Feb 15 06:40:15 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] RE: [spambayes-dev] Spam-Bayes and Poco Mai - a
	beginners question.l
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: <200521421408.803847@wine>

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From wealthychef at yahoo.com  Tue Feb 15 07:21:54 2005
From: wealthychef at yahoo.com (Rich Cook)
Date: Tue Feb 15 07:21:58 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Key error
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

Hi, thanks,
There were no recent crashes.
What would be the name of the existing file to remove?
I tried moving .hammiedb from my $HOME directory and that did not fix 
the problem.

On Feb 14, 2005, at 7:59 PM, Tony Meyer wrote:

>> I'm getting the following error when I run sb_server.py.
> [...]
>> Here's the error:
>> rcook@Richs-Computer (Downloads): sb_server.py
>> Traceback (most recent call last):
> [...]
>>    File
>> "/sw/src/root-python23-2.3.4-2/sw/lib/python2.3/pickle.py", line
>> 872, in load
>>      dispatch[key](self)
>> KeyError: '\x00'
>
> SpamBayes is unable to load the messageinfo database pickle.  Either 
> the
> pickle is bad (which is rare - but something like a crash during 
> training
> could cause it) or it's trying to open something that isn't a pickle 
> as a
> pickle (e.g. the persistent_storage_name points to a bsddb db, but
> persistent_use_database is set to pickle).
>
> Either of these sound right?  If the former, then just delete the
> messageinfo pickle.  If the later, then either the name or the 
> use_database
> option needs to be changed (or, again, remove the existing file).
>
> =Tony.Meyer
>
> -- 
> Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies
> (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
> http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.
>
--
Rich "wealthychef" Cook
925-784-3077
--
"Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls 
and looks like work."  -- C.F. Edison

From wealthychef at yahoo.com  Tue Feb 15 07:27:55 2005
From: wealthychef at yahoo.com (Rich Cook)
Date: Tue Feb 15 07:28:00 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Key error
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <5db19f5574aeb6a1a753b0b78d29f6c4@yahoo.com>

Another weird thing is that the spam filter is continuing to work ok.  
Also sb_mboxtrain.py works fine.  Just sb_server.py freaks out.


On Feb 14, 2005, at 7:59 PM, Tony Meyer wrote:

>> I'm getting the following error when I run sb_server.py.
> [...]
>> Here's the error:
>> rcook@Richs-Computer (Downloads): sb_server.py
>> Traceback (most recent call last):
> [...]
>>    File
>> "/sw/src/root-python23-2.3.4-2/sw/lib/python2.3/pickle.py", line
>> 872, in load
>>      dispatch[key](self)
>> KeyError: '\x00'
>
> SpamBayes is unable to load the messageinfo database pickle.  Either 
> the
> pickle is bad (which is rare - but something like a crash during 
> training
> could cause it) or it's trying to open something that isn't a pickle 
> as a
> pickle (e.g. the persistent_storage_name points to a bsddb db, but
> persistent_use_database is set to pickle).
>
> Either of these sound right?  If the former, then just delete the
> messageinfo pickle.  If the later, then either the name or the 
> use_database
> option needs to be changed (or, again, remove the existing file).
>
> =Tony.Meyer
>
> -- 
> Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies
> (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
> http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.
>
--
Rich "wealthychef" Cook
925-784-3077
--
"Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls 
and looks like work."  -- C.F. Edison

From sole at soleassociates.com  Tue Feb 15 15:06:12 2005
From: sole at soleassociates.com (Kenneth Sole)
Date: Tue Feb 15 15:05:35 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Duplicate messages handled differently...?
In-Reply-To: <000801c5047e$c1f3add0$6801a8c0@kenneth00>
Message-ID: <004b01c51367$822550d0$6801a8c0@kenneth00>

Dear Tony & all,

Here are the spam clues for a message that was in my Review folder,
and also in my Spam folder:

As Tony said earlier, it is "about as Spammy as you can get, but the
two identical messages are handled differently by SpamBayes. Below the
Clues, I have provided the log.

Combined Score: 100% (0.997149)
Internal ham score (*H*): 0.00519378
Internal spam score (*S*): 0.999491

# ham trained on: 143
# spam trained on: 725
46 Significant Tokens
token                               spamprob         #ham  #spam
'inc.'                              0.083481           45     20
'bi:please let'                     0.151285            4      3
'recent'                            0.159347           11     10
'consultant'                        0.225851            3      4
'new'                               0.247485           68    113
'second'                            0.252054            9     15
'thank'                             0.272227           45     85
'senior'                            0.293227            3      6
'please'                            0.297894           88    189
'year,'                             0.298036            2      4
'did'                               0.305063           19     42
'accurate.'                         0.311207            1      2
'bi:content-type:text/plain subject:You' 0.311207            1      2
'bi:that two'                       0.311207            1      2
'skip:n 10'                         0.316825           15     35
'not'                               0.328949           85    211
'business'                          0.339118           22     57
'subject:.'                         0.340599           23     60
'happy'                             0.349989           14     38
'bi:this your'                      0.384719            1      3
'have'                              0.388424           78    251
'header:Reply-To:1'                 0.632261           22    192
'bi:to:2**0 x-mailer:none'          0.647024           40    372
'bi:header:Subject:1 proto:http'    0.662693           33    329
'url:php'                           0.772258            7    121
'bi:reach you'                      0.844828            0      1
'bi:been notified'                  0.908163            0      2
'bi:credit history'                 0.908163            0      2
'bi:offer past'                     0.908163            0      2
'bi:site ensure'                    0.908163            0      2
'factor.'                           0.908163            0      2
'inquiry,'                          0.908163            0      2
'url:biz'                           0.923664            1     64
'advisors'                          0.934783            0      3
'bi:our terms'                      0.934783            0      3
'bi:records are'                    0.934783            0      3
'secure,'                           0.934783            0      3
'bi:offering you'                   0.949438            0      4
'bi:this special'                   0.949438            0      4
'remember,'                         0.958716            0      5
'bi:accordance with'                0.965116            0      6
'deal.'                             0.965116            0      6
'lenders'                           0.965116            0      6
'url:refid'                         0.965116            0      6
'bi:are interested'                 0.969799            0      7
'bi:your information'               0.983271            0     13
Message Stream

Return-Path: 
Delivered-To: soleassociates.com-sole@soleassociates.com
Received: (qmail 15770 invoked by uid 107); 15 Feb 2005 08:16:13 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO 66.132.226.8) (220.83.190.155)
	by s9006.hostcentric.net with SMTP; 15 Feb 2005 08:16:13 -0000
Received: from 6958042271.mankelmuth.com (0330376192.manjok.com
	[212.222.208.79]) by 220.83.190.155 Microsoft
	SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1041); Tue, 15 Feb 2005 02:14:15 -0600
Message-ID: 
From: "WARD Arianna" 
Reply-To: "Julia " 
To: sole@soleassociates.com
Subject: You Qualified.
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 02:14:15 -0600
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
	boundary="8043373382"
X-Webmail-Time: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 04:06:15 -0400


Alert, This is your Second Notification:

Thank you for your recent inquiry, we have been notified that two
lenders are interested in offering you a deal.   Remember, for this
special
offer past credit history is not a factor.

In accordance with our terms please verify your information on our
secure, private site to ensure our records are accurate.

http://www.lendx.biz/index2.php?refid=ph420

Happy New Year,

--MORALES
Senior Business Consultant - Low-Rate Advisors Inc.

Did this reach you in error? please let us know...thx
http://www.lesdgt.com/r.php

All Message Tokens
95 unique tokens

'--morales'
'accordance'
'accurate.'
'advisors'
'alert,'
'are'
'been'
'business'
'cc:none'
'consultant'
'content-type:text/plain'
'credit'
'deal.'
'did'
'ensure'
'error?'
'factor.'
'for'
'from:addr:g.flob227'
'from:addr:manitowoc.gannett.com'
'from:name:ward arianna'
'happy'
'have'
'header:Date:1'
'header:From:1'
'header:MIME-Version:1'
'header:Message-ID:1'
'header:Received:3'
'header:Reply-To:1'
'header:Return-Path:1'
'header:Subject:1'
'header:To:1'
'history'
'inc.'
'information'
'inquiry,'
'interested'
'know...thx'
'lenders'
'let'
'low-rate'
'message-id:@manitouinc.com'
'new'
'not'
'notified'
'offer'
'offering'
'our'
'past'
'please'
'private'
'proto:http'
'reach'
'recent'
'records'
'remember,'
'reply-to:addr:lmason_ln'
'reply-to:addr:manitobalife.com'
'reply-to:name:julia '
'second'
'secure,'
'sender:none'
'senior'
'site'
'skip:n 10'
'special'
'subject: '
'subject:.'
'subject:Qualified.'
'subject:You'
'terms'
'thank'
'that'
'this'
'to:2**0'
'to:addr:sole'
'to:addr:soleassociates.com'
'to:no real name:2**0'
'two'
'url:biz'
'url:com'
'url:index2'
'url:lendx'
'url:lesdgt'
'url:ph420'
'url:php'
'url:r'
'url:refid'
'url:www'
'verify'
'with'
'x-mailer:none'
'year,'
'you'
'your'


Loaded bayes database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Kenneth
Sole\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db'
Loaded message database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Kenneth
Sole\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db'
Bayes database initialized with 724 spam and 143 good messages
SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0.2 (January 2005) starting
(with engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004))
on Windows 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 4)
using Python 2.4 (#60, Nov 30 2004, 11:49:19) [MSC v.1310 32 bit
(Intel)]
SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Desktop/Inbox'
SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Desktop/Junk SPAM'
Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer
FAILED to add the toolbar item 'SpamBayesCommand.Manager' -
(-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.', (0, None, None, None,
0, -2147467259), None)
The above toolbar message is common - recreating the toolbar...
Message 'RE: Starter...?' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification
of 'No'
Message 'Updates on our site (eaten)' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam
classification of 'Unsure'
Moving and spam training message 'Updates on our site (eaten)' -
Training on message 'Updates on our site (eaten)' in 'Desktop/Junk
REVIEW -  trained as spam
Message 'Vecodin, Viiagra are Cheeap OkT' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a
Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'Vecodin, Viiagra are Cheeap OkT' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a
Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'Re [23]' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of
'Yes'
Message '100% Automated System! can earn you 6 Figure Income Online!'
in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'Claim your Gift Card!' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam
classification of 'Yes'
Message 'secret source for deep discount viag-ra' in 'Desktop/Inbox'
had a Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'Claim your Gift Card!' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam
classification of 'Yes'
Message 'FREE Smiley Faces for your email' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a
Spam classification of 'Unsure'
Message 'Don't condoms suck?' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam
classification of 'Yes'
Message 'eBay Favorite Search: gibson banjo' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a
Spam classification of 'No'
Message 'eBay Favorite Search: toyota sienna 2004' in 'Desktop/Inbox'
had a Spam classification of 'No'
Message 'eBay Favorite Search: tommy bahama shirt silk large' in
'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No'
Message 'eBay Favorite Search: yamaha silent guitar' in
'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No'
Message 'eBay Favorite Search: wheatstone concertina' in
'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No'
Message 'eBay Favorite Search: "Nat Nast" shirt silk large -e' in
'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No'
Message 'eBay Favorite Search: vega banjo' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a
Spam classification of 'No'
Message 'eBay Favorite Search: Tommy Bahama silk long -xl -xx' in
'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No'
Message 'eBay Favorite Search: wordperfect office suite' in
'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No'
Message 'Viiagra and Xa'naax are Cheeap kS4xHi' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had
a Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'Miss you already' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam
classification of 'Unsure'
Message 'DESCUENTE SUS CHEQUES' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam
classification of 'Yes'
Message 'viste lo que paso?' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam
classification of 'Yes'
Message 'ADV: your private secret' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam
classification of 'Yes'
Message 'Increase the volume of your ejaculation.' in 'Desktop/Inbox'
had a Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'do you hate traffic cameras?-quizzes butt ' in
'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'Interested' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of
'Yes'
Message 'Have a document to print but you are low on ink?' in
'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'Tadalafil Soft Tabs - Great results!' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had
a Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'Harder means happier! tips and tricks inside' in
'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'Become happy with your performance' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a
Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'You Qualified.' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification
of 'Yes'
Message 'You Qualified.' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification
of 'Yes'
Message 'Super Bases 14  CDs $ 80.-' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam
classification of 'Yes'
Message 'First-Rate Rx' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification
of 'Yes'
Message 'Vecodiin, Viiagra are Cheeap meA0' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a
Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'Vecodiin, Viiagra are Cheeap meA0' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a
Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'You Qualified.' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification
of 'Yes'




It would appear from the log that the message ("You Qualified") came
in twice, and was classified as Spam both times. Yes, as on occasion
before, one is moved the the Spam Folder, and one is moved to the
"Review" folder.

What might be appropriate next steps to figure this out?

Very sincere thanks,

--
Kenneth

   Sole & Associates, Inc.
   Box 292
   Durham, New Hampshire 03824
 Voice: 603-659-3169
   Fax: 603-659-2248
 Email: sole@soleAssociates.com
   URL: http://www.soleAssociates.com
   PGP:
http://wwwkeys.ch.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE17941C6

-----Original Message-----
From: spambayes-bounces@python.org
[mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of Kenneth Sole
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 9:45 AM
To: 'Kenneth Sole'; 'Tony Meyer'; spambayes@python.org
Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Duplicate messages handled differently...?

Hello again,

I just saw that my log is written each time I run a send/receive
cycle. As a result, the log that I sent might not be relevant to my
issue.

Thanks,

--
Kenneth

   Sole & Associates, Inc.
   Box 292
   Durham, New Hampshire 03824
 Voice: 603-659-3169
   Fax: 603-659-2248
 Email: sole@soleAssociates.com
   URL: http://www.soleAssociates.com
   PGP:
http://wwwkeys.ch.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE17941C6

-----Original Message-----
From: Kenneth Sole [mailto:sole@soleassociates.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 9:40 AM
To: 'Tony Meyer'; 'Kenneth Sole'; spambayes@python.org
Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Duplicate messages handled differently...?

Hi Tony & All,

I just received another duplicate message. As happens occasionally,
one went to the Spam Folder, and the other to my Review Folder.

Here is the Log:

Loaded bayes database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Kenneth
Sole\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db'
Loaded message database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Kenneth
Sole\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db'
Bayes database initialized with 652 spam and 134 good messages
SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0.2 (January 2005) starting
(with engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004))
on Windows 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 4)
using Python 2.4 (#60, Nov 30 2004, 11:49:19) [MSC v.1310 32 bit
(Intel)]
SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Desktop/Inbox'
SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Desktop/Junk SPAM'
Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer
FAILED to add the toolbar item 'SpamBayesCommand.Manager' -
(-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.', (0, None, None, None,
0, -2147467259), None)
The above toolbar message is common - recreating the toolbar...
Message 'cleanse bijective ' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam
classification of 'Unsure'


Is the line:

"Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer"

the indication of my problem?


I should add that the log above is the one visible when I first
noticed the double message. I get mail frequently and wonder if the
log I have above might be from a run after the message was received.
How might I know that?


Thanks for any further help,

--
Kenneth

   Sole & Associates, Inc.
   Box 292
   Durham, New Hampshire 03824
 Voice: 603-659-3169
   Fax: 603-659-2248
 Email: sole@soleAssociates.com
   URL: http://www.soleAssociates.com
   PGP:
http://wwwkeys.ch.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE17941C6

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz]
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 5:58 PM
To: 'Kenneth Sole'; spambayes@python.org
Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Duplicate messages handled differently...?

> Well, it did not take long to have the opportunity to check the
> "clues." I just received two messages (an eBay phishing spam). One
> moved to my review folder, the other to my spam folder. The messages
> appeared identical, and so as per your suggestion, I checked the
> "clues."
>
> To my surprise, they appear identical as well...

And they both scored 100%, which as spammy as you can get.  This means
that
it's not a problem with correctly scoring the message, but with moving
the
message to the spam folder.

Next time this happens could you grab a copy of your log file
(SpamBayes->SpamBayes Manager->Advanced->Diagnostics->View Log) and
send us
a copy of that?  Either there will be an error or there should be
clues in
the messages that are there that will let us figure out what's
happening.

=Tony.Meyer

--
Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies
(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.



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From sole at soleassociates.com  Tue Feb 15 15:24:54 2005
From: sole at soleassociates.com (Kenneth Sole)
Date: Tue Feb 15 15:24:16 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Duplicate messages handled differently...?
In-Reply-To: <004b01c51367$822550d0$6801a8c0@kenneth00>
Message-ID: <004c01c5136a$1ea02500$6801a8c0@kenneth00>

Hi again,

I had been focusing on duplicate messages that were sent by SpamBayes
to different folders, but that seems have to been a mistake on my
part: I just noticed about a dozen messages that were sent to my
Review folder though they all had Spam scores over 90%.

But then it gets weirder:

I looked in the log for those messages, but they do not appear at
all...

(I should add that I have my log verbosity set to "0.")

Thanks for any further help,

--
Kenneth

   Sole & Associates, Inc.
   Box 292
   Durham, New Hampshire 03824
 Voice: 603-659-3169
   Fax: 603-659-2248
 Email: sole@soleAssociates.com
   URL: http://www.soleAssociates.com
   PGP:
http://wwwkeys.ch.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE17941C6

-----Original Message-----
From: spambayes-bounces@python.org
[mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of Kenneth Sole
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 9:06 AM
To: 'Kenneth Sole'; 'Tony Meyer'; spambayes@python.org
Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Duplicate messages handled differently...?

Dear Tony & all,

Here are the spam clues for a message that was in my Review folder,
and also in my Spam folder:

As Tony said earlier, it is "about as Spammy as you can get, but the
two identical messages are handled differently by SpamBayes. Below the
Clues, I have provided the log.

Combined Score: 100% (0.997149)
Internal ham score (*H*): 0.00519378
Internal spam score (*S*): 0.999491

# ham trained on: 143
# spam trained on: 725
46 Significant Tokens
token                               spamprob         #ham  #spam
'inc.'                              0.083481           45     20
'bi:please let'                     0.151285            4      3
'recent'                            0.159347           11     10
'consultant'                        0.225851            3      4
'new'                               0.247485           68    113
'second'                            0.252054            9     15
'thank'                             0.272227           45     85
'senior'                            0.293227            3      6
'please'                            0.297894           88    189
'year,'                             0.298036            2      4
'did'                               0.305063           19     42
'accurate.'                         0.311207            1      2
'bi:content-type:text/plain subject:You' 0.311207            1      2
'bi:that two'                       0.311207            1      2
'skip:n 10'                         0.316825           15     35
'not'                               0.328949           85    211
'business'                          0.339118           22     57
'subject:.'                         0.340599           23     60
'happy'                             0.349989           14     38
'bi:this your'                      0.384719            1      3
'have'                              0.388424           78    251
'header:Reply-To:1'                 0.632261           22    192
'bi:to:2**0 x-mailer:none'          0.647024           40    372
'bi:header:Subject:1 proto:http'    0.662693           33    329
'url:php'                           0.772258            7    121
'bi:reach you'                      0.844828            0      1
'bi:been notified'                  0.908163            0      2
'bi:credit history'                 0.908163            0      2
'bi:offer past'                     0.908163            0      2
'bi:site ensure'                    0.908163            0      2
'factor.'                           0.908163            0      2
'inquiry,'                          0.908163            0      2
'url:biz'                           0.923664            1     64
'advisors'                          0.934783            0      3
'bi:our terms'                      0.934783            0      3
'bi:records are'                    0.934783            0      3
'secure,'                           0.934783            0      3
'bi:offering you'                   0.949438            0      4
'bi:this special'                   0.949438            0      4
'remember,'                         0.958716            0      5
'bi:accordance with'                0.965116            0      6
'deal.'                             0.965116            0      6
'lenders'                           0.965116            0      6
'url:refid'                         0.965116            0      6
'bi:are interested'                 0.969799            0      7
'bi:your information'               0.983271            0     13
Message Stream

Return-Path: 
Delivered-To: soleassociates.com-sole@soleassociates.com
Received: (qmail 15770 invoked by uid 107); 15 Feb 2005 08:16:13 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO 66.132.226.8) (220.83.190.155)
        by s9006.hostcentric.net with SMTP; 15 Feb 2005 08:16:13 -0000
Received: from 6958042271.mankelmuth.com (0330376192.manjok.com
        [212.222.208.79]) by 220.83.190.155 Microsoft
        SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1041); Tue, 15 Feb 2005 02:14:15 -0600
Message-ID: 
From: "WARD Arianna" 
Reply-To: "Julia " 
To: sole@soleassociates.com
Subject: You Qualified.
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 02:14:15 -0600
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
        boundary="8043373382"
X-Webmail-Time: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 04:06:15 -0400


Alert, This is your Second Notification:

Thank you for your recent inquiry, we have been notified that two
lenders are interested in offering you a deal.   Remember, for this
special
offer past credit history is not a factor.

In accordance with our terms please verify your information on our
secure, private site to ensure our records are accurate.

http://www.lendx.biz/index2.php?refid=ph420

Happy New Year,

--MORALES
Senior Business Consultant - Low-Rate Advisors Inc.

Did this reach you in error? please let us know...thx
http://www.lesdgt.com/r.php

All Message Tokens
95 unique tokens

'--morales'
'accordance'
'accurate.'
'advisors'
'alert,'
'are'
'been'
'business'
'cc:none'
'consultant'
'content-type:text/plain'
'credit'
'deal.'
'did'
'ensure'
'error?'
'factor.'
'for'
'from:addr:g.flob227'
'from:addr:manitowoc.gannett.com'
'from:name:ward arianna'
'happy'
'have'
'header:Date:1'
'header:From:1'
'header:MIME-Version:1'
'header:Message-ID:1'
'header:Received:3'
'header:Reply-To:1'
'header:Return-Path:1'
'header:Subject:1'
'header:To:1'
'history'
'inc.'
'information'
'inquiry,'
'interested'
'know...thx'
'lenders'
'let'
'low-rate'
'message-id:@manitouinc.com'
'new'
'not'
'notified'
'offer'
'offering'
'our'
'past'
'please'
'private'
'proto:http'
'reach'
'recent'
'records'
'remember,'
'reply-to:addr:lmason_ln'
'reply-to:addr:manitobalife.com'
'reply-to:name:julia '
'second'
'secure,'
'sender:none'
'senior'
'site'
'skip:n 10'
'special'
'subject: '
'subject:.'
'subject:Qualified.'
'subject:You'
'terms'
'thank'
'that'
'this'
'to:2**0'
'to:addr:sole'
'to:addr:soleassociates.com'
'to:no real name:2**0'
'two'
'url:biz'
'url:com'
'url:index2'
'url:lendx'
'url:lesdgt'
'url:ph420'
'url:php'
'url:r'
'url:refid'
'url:www'
'verify'
'with'
'x-mailer:none'
'year,'
'you'
'your'


Loaded bayes database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Kenneth
Sole\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db'
Loaded message database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Kenneth
Sole\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db'
Bayes database initialized with 724 spam and 143 good messages
SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0.2 (January 2005) starting
(with engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004))
on Windows 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 4)
using Python 2.4 (#60, Nov 30 2004, 11:49:19) [MSC v.1310 32 bit
(Intel)]
SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Desktop/Inbox'
SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Desktop/Junk SPAM'
Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer
FAILED to add the toolbar item 'SpamBayesCommand.Manager' -
(-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.', (0, None, None, None,
0, -2147467259), None)
The above toolbar message is common - recreating the toolbar...
Message 'RE: Starter...?' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification
of 'No'
Message 'Updates on our site (eaten)' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam
classification of 'Unsure'
Moving and spam training message 'Updates on our site (eaten)' -
Training on message 'Updates on our site (eaten)' in 'Desktop/Junk
REVIEW -  trained as spam
Message 'Vecodin, Viiagra are Cheeap OkT' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a
Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'Vecodin, Viiagra are Cheeap OkT' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a
Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'Re [23]' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of
'Yes'
Message '100% Automated System! can earn you 6 Figure Income Online!'
in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'Claim your Gift Card!' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam
classification of 'Yes'
Message 'secret source for deep discount viag-ra' in 'Desktop/Inbox'
had a Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'Claim your Gift Card!' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam
classification of 'Yes'
Message 'FREE Smiley Faces for your email' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a
Spam classification of 'Unsure'
Message 'Don't condoms suck?' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam
classification of 'Yes'
Message 'eBay Favorite Search: gibson banjo' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a
Spam classification of 'No'
Message 'eBay Favorite Search: toyota sienna 2004' in 'Desktop/Inbox'
had a Spam classification of 'No'
Message 'eBay Favorite Search: tommy bahama shirt silk large' in
'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No'
Message 'eBay Favorite Search: yamaha silent guitar' in
'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No'
Message 'eBay Favorite Search: wheatstone concertina' in
'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No'
Message 'eBay Favorite Search: "Nat Nast" shirt silk large -e' in
'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No'
Message 'eBay Favorite Search: vega banjo' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a
Spam classification of 'No'
Message 'eBay Favorite Search: Tommy Bahama silk long -xl -xx' in
'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No'
Message 'eBay Favorite Search: wordperfect office suite' in
'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No'
Message 'Viiagra and Xa'naax are Cheeap kS4xHi' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had
a Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'Miss you already' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam
classification of 'Unsure'
Message 'DESCUENTE SUS CHEQUES' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam
classification of 'Yes'
Message 'viste lo que paso?' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam
classification of 'Yes'
Message 'ADV: your private secret' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam
classification of 'Yes'
Message 'Increase the volume of your ejaculation.' in 'Desktop/Inbox'
had a Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'do you hate traffic cameras?-quizzes butt ' in
'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'Interested' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of
'Yes'
Message 'Have a document to print but you are low on ink?' in
'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'Tadalafil Soft Tabs - Great results!' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had
a Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'Harder means happier! tips and tricks inside' in
'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'Become happy with your performance' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a
Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'You Qualified.' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification
of 'Yes'
Message 'You Qualified.' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification
of 'Yes'
Message 'Super Bases 14  CDs $ 80.-' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam
classification of 'Yes'
Message 'First-Rate Rx' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification
of 'Yes'
Message 'Vecodiin, Viiagra are Cheeap meA0' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a
Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'Vecodiin, Viiagra are Cheeap meA0' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a
Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'You Qualified.' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification
of 'Yes'




It would appear from the log that the message ("You Qualified") came
in twice, and was classified as Spam both times. Yes, as on occasion
before, one is moved the the Spam Folder, and one is moved to the
"Review" folder.

What might be appropriate next steps to figure this out?

Very sincere thanks,

--
Kenneth

   Sole & Associates, Inc.
   Box 292
   Durham, New Hampshire 03824
 Voice: 603-659-3169
   Fax: 603-659-2248
 Email: sole@soleAssociates.com
   URL: http://www.soleAssociates.com
   PGP:
http://wwwkeys.ch.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE17941C6

-----Original Message-----
From: spambayes-bounces@python.org
[mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of Kenneth Sole
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 9:45 AM
To: 'Kenneth Sole'; 'Tony Meyer'; spambayes@python.org
Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Duplicate messages handled differently...?

Hello again,

I just saw that my log is written each time I run a send/receive
cycle. As a result, the log that I sent might not be relevant to my
issue.

Thanks,

--
Kenneth

   Sole & Associates, Inc.
   Box 292
   Durham, New Hampshire 03824
 Voice: 603-659-3169
   Fax: 603-659-2248
 Email: sole@soleAssociates.com
   URL: http://www.soleAssociates.com
   PGP:
http://wwwkeys.ch.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE17941C6

-----Original Message-----
From: Kenneth Sole [mailto:sole@soleassociates.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 9:40 AM
To: 'Tony Meyer'; 'Kenneth Sole'; spambayes@python.org
Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Duplicate messages handled differently...?

Hi Tony & All,

I just received another duplicate message. As happens occasionally,
one went to the Spam Folder, and the other to my Review Folder.

Here is the Log:

Loaded bayes database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Kenneth
Sole\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db'
Loaded message database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Kenneth
Sole\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db'
Bayes database initialized with 652 spam and 134 good messages
SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0.2 (January 2005) starting
(with engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004))
on Windows 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 4)
using Python 2.4 (#60, Nov 30 2004, 11:49:19) [MSC v.1310 32 bit
(Intel)]
SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Desktop/Inbox'
SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Desktop/Junk SPAM'
Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer
FAILED to add the toolbar item 'SpamBayesCommand.Manager' -
(-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.', (0, None, None, None,
0, -2147467259), None)
The above toolbar message is common - recreating the toolbar...
Message 'cleanse bijective ' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam
classification of 'Unsure'


Is the line:

"Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer"

the indication of my problem?


I should add that the log above is the one visible when I first
noticed the double message. I get mail frequently and wonder if the
log I have above might be from a run after the message was received.
How might I know that?


Thanks for any further help,

--
Kenneth

   Sole & Associates, Inc.
   Box 292
   Durham, New Hampshire 03824
 Voice: 603-659-3169
   Fax: 603-659-2248
 Email: sole@soleAssociates.com
   URL: http://www.soleAssociates.com
   PGP:
http://wwwkeys.ch.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE17941C6

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz]
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 5:58 PM
To: 'Kenneth Sole'; spambayes@python.org
Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Duplicate messages handled differently...?

> Well, it did not take long to have the opportunity to check the
> "clues." I just received two messages (an eBay phishing spam). One
> moved to my review folder, the other to my spam folder. The messages
> appeared identical, and so as per your suggestion, I checked the
> "clues."
>
> To my surprise, they appear identical as well...

And they both scored 100%, which as spammy as you can get.  This means
that
it's not a problem with correctly scoring the message, but with moving
the
message to the spam folder.

Next time this happens could you grab a copy of your log file
(SpamBayes->SpamBayes Manager->Advanced->Diagnostics->View Log) and
send us
a copy of that?  Either there will be an error or there should be
clues in
the messages that are there that will let us figure out what's
happening.

=Tony.Meyer

--
Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies
(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.



_______________________________________________
Spambayes@python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes
Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html


_______________________________________________
Spambayes@python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes
Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html

From RuggieriR at dnb.com  Tue Feb 15 17:15:59 2005
From: RuggieriR at dnb.com (Ruggieri, Roger (RMS))
Date: Tue Feb 15 17:16:06 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] (-30978, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error,
	run database recovery 
Message-ID: <6D93E4F66563D211A0650008C7B1EAF30AF4811A@exbhbhmb03.us.dbisna.com>

Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part --------------
Loaded bayes database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\ruggierir\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db'
Loaded message database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\ruggierir\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db'
Bayes database initialized with 3454 spam and 162 good messages
*** - message database has 3589 messages - bayes has 3616 - something is screwey
SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0.3 (January 2005) starting (with engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004))
on Windows 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 4)
using Python 2.4 (#60, Nov 30 2004, 11:49:19) [MSC v.1310 32 bit (Intel)]
SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - Ruggieri, Roger/Inbox'
SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Mailbox - Ruggieri, Roger/Junk E-Mail'
Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer
Message 'Application confirmation #553309N Tue, 15 Feb 2005 04:06:54 -0800' in 'Mailbox - Ruggieri, Roger/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes'
Creating new SpamBayes toolbar to host our buttons
Recovering to folder 'Inbox' and ham training message 'CCDOLAPU - Mainframe OLAP Extracts complete.' -  Training on message 'CCDOLAPU - Mainframe OLAP Extracts complete.' in 'Mailbox - Ruggieri, Roger/Junk Suspects - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method.

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 283, in _Invoke_
  File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 288, in _invoke_
  File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 581, in _invokeex_
  File "addin.pyc", line 700, in OnClick
  File "addin.pyc", line 142, in TrainAsHam
  File "train.pyc", line 52, in train_message
  File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 273, in learn
  File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 384, in _add_msg
  File "spambayes\storage.pyc", line 304, in _wordinfoset
  File "shelve.pyc", line 130, in __setitem__
  File "bsddb\__init__.pyc", line 218, in __setitem__
bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30978, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- PANIC: Invalid argument')
 Training on message 'CCDOLAPU - Mainframe OLAP Extracts complete.' in 'Mailbox - Ruggieri, Roger/Inbox - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method.

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 283, in _Invoke_
  File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 288, in _invoke_
  File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 647, in _invokeex_
  File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 581, in _invokeex_
  File "addin.pyc", line 391, in OnItemAdd
  File "addin.pyc", line 206, in ProcessMessage
  File "addin.pyc", line 142, in TrainAsHam
  File "train.pyc", line 52, in train_message
  File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 273, in learn
  File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 384, in _add_msg
  File "spambayes\storage.pyc", line 304, in _wordinfoset
  File "shelve.pyc", line 130, in __setitem__
  File "bsddb\__init__.pyc", line 218, in __setitem__
bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30978, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery')
 Message 'CCDOLAPU - Mainframe OLAP Extracts complete.' in 'Mailbox - Ruggieri, Roger/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No'
Cancelling wizard
Saving configuration -> C:\Documents and Settings\ruggierir\Application Data\SpamBayes\MS Exchange Settings.ini
SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - Ruggieri, Roger/Inbox'
SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Mailbox - Ruggieri, Roger/Junk E-Mail'
Message '100 bucks to try latest 3D Bingo, Poker and SLOTS' in 'Mailbox - Ruggieri, Roger/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Unsure'
Message 'I didnt expect it to work this well! WOuk' in 'Mailbox - Ruggieri, Roger/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Unsure'
Message 'read more' in 'Mailbox - Ruggieri, Roger/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Unsure'
Training on message 'read more' in 'Mailbox - Ruggieri, Roger/Junk E-Mail - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method.

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 283, in _Invoke_
  File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 288, in _invoke_
  File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 647, in _invokeex_
  File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 581, in _invokeex_
  File "addin.pyc", line 433, in OnItemAdd
  File "addin.pyc", line 161, in TrainAsSpam
  File "train.pyc", line 52, in train_message
  File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 273, in learn
  File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 384, in _add_msg
  File "spambayes\storage.pyc", line 304, in _wordinfoset
  File "shelve.pyc", line 130, in __setitem__
  File "bsddb\__init__.pyc", line 218, in __setitem__
bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30978, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery')
 Training on message 'I didnt expect it to work this well! WOuk' in 'Mailbox - Ruggieri, Roger/Junk E-Mail - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method.

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 283, in _Invoke_
  File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 288, in _invoke_
  File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 647, in _invokeex_
  File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 581, in _invokeex_
  File "addin.pyc", line 433, in OnItemAdd
  File "addin.pyc", line 161, in TrainAsSpam
  File "train.pyc", line 52, in train_message
  File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 273, in learn
  File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 384, in _add_msg
  File "spambayes\storage.pyc", line 304, in _wordinfoset
  File "shelve.pyc", line 130, in __setitem__
  File "bsddb\__init__.pyc", line 218, in __setitem__
bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30978, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery')
 Training on message '100 bucks to try latest 3D Bingo, Poker and SLOTS' in 'Mailbox - Ruggieri, Roger/Junk E-Mail - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method.

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 283, in _Invoke_
  File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 288, in _invoke_
  File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 647, in _invokeex_
  File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 581, in _invokeex_
  File "addin.pyc", line 433, in OnItemAdd
  File "addin.pyc", line 161, in TrainAsSpam
  File "train.pyc", line 52, in train_message
  File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 273, in learn
  File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 384, in _add_msg
  File "spambayes\storage.pyc", line 304, in _wordinfoset
  File "shelve.pyc", line 130, in __setitem__
  File "bsddb\__init__.pyc", line 218, in __setitem__
bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30978, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery')
 Message 'Delivered: RE: D&B conference call ' in 'Mailbox - Ruggieri, Roger/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Unsure'
Message 'Delivered: RE: D&B conference call ' in 'Mailbox - Ruggieri, Roger/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Unsure'
Message 'FW: FTP Customers Using BDE' in 'Mailbox - Ruggieri, Roger/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Unsure'
Message 'Jan 31 2005 Draft App Migration Approach       ' in 'Mailbox - Ruggieri, Roger/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Unsure'
Message 'Remember me, JonesUHY0089 from AOL' in 'Mailbox - Ruggieri, Roger/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Unsure'
Message 'RE: Updated Jan. 31 2005 Draft App Migration Approach 1 of 3 ' in 'Mailbox - Ruggieri, Roger/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Unsure'
Message 'Avoid facing failure' in 'Mailbox - Ruggieri, Roger/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Unsure'
Recovering to folder 'Inbox' and ham training message 'RE: Updated Jan. 31 2005 Draft App Migration Approach 1 of 3 ' -  Training on message 'RE: Updated Jan. 31 2005 Draft App Migration Approach 1 of 3 ' in 'Mailbox - Ruggieri, Roger/Junk Suspects - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method.

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 283, in _Invoke_
  File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 288, in _invoke_
  File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 581, in _invokeex_
  File "addin.pyc", line 700, in OnClick
  File "addin.pyc", line 142, in TrainAsHam
  File "train.pyc", line 52, in train_message
  File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 273, in learn
  File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 384, in _add_msg
  File "spambayes\storage.pyc", line 304, in _wordinfoset
  File "shelve.pyc", line 130, in __setitem__
  File "bsddb\__init__.pyc", line 218, in __setitem__
bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30978, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery')
 Training on message 'Remember me, JonesUHY0089 from AOL' in 'Mailbox - Ruggieri, Roger/Junk E-Mail - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method.

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 283, in _Invoke_
  File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 288, in _invoke_
  File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 647, in _invokeex_
  File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 581, in _invokeex_
  File "addin.pyc", line 433, in OnItemAdd
  File "addin.pyc", line 161, in TrainAsSpam
  File "train.pyc", line 52, in train_message
  File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 273, in learn
  File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 384, in _add_msg
  File "spambayes\storage.pyc", line 304, in _wordinfoset
  File "shelve.pyc", line 130, in __setitem__
  File "bsddb\__init__.pyc", line 218, in __setitem__
bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30978, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery')
 Training on message 'Avoid facing failure' in 'Mailbox - Ruggieri, Roger/Junk E-Mail - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method.

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 283, in _Invoke_
  File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 288, in _invoke_
  File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 647, in _invokeex_
  File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 581, in _invokeex_
  File "addin.pyc", line 433, in OnItemAdd
  File "addin.pyc", line 161, in TrainAsSpam
  File "train.pyc", line 52, in train_message
  File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 273, in learn
  File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 384, in _add_msg
  File "spambayes\storage.pyc", line 304, in _wordinfoset
  File "shelve.pyc", line 130, in __setitem__
  File "bsddb\__init__.pyc", line 218, in __setitem__
bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30978, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery')
 Message 'Important Online Banking Alert' in 'Mailbox - Ruggieri, Roger/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Unsure'
Message 'Need a new P*C' in 'Mailbox - Ruggieri, Roger/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Unsure'
Message 'RE: Jan 31 2005 Draft App Migration Approach   ' in 'Mailbox - Ruggieri, Roger/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Unsure'
Message 'Need your prescripiton? We have it' in 'Mailbox - Ruggieri, Roger/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Unsure'
Message 'RE: Updated Jan. 31 2005 Draft App Migration Approach 1 of 3 ' in 'Mailbox - Ruggieri, Roger/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Unsure'
Message 'Delivered: Test Letters at your location' in 'Mailbox - Ruggieri, Roger/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Unsure'
Saving configuration -> C:\Documents and Settings\ruggierir\Application Data\SpamBayes\MS Exchange Settings.ini
SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - Ruggieri, Roger/Inbox'
SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Mailbox - Ruggieri, Roger/Junk E-Mail'
ERROR: 'You must configure and enable SpamBayes before you can delete as spam'
GetNextPage with current 0 IDD_WIZARD_WELCOME
GetNextPage with current 5 IDD_WIZARD_TRAINING_IS_IMPORTANT
GetNextPage with current 1 IDD_WIZARD_FOLDERS_WATCH
GetNextPage with current 2 IDD_WIZARD_FOLDERS_REST
Wizard Done!
Saving wizard changes
Saving configuration -> C:\Documents and Settings\ruggierir\Application Data\SpamBayes\MS Exchange Settings.ini
Saving configuration -> C:\Documents and Settings\ruggierir\Application Data\SpamBayes\MS Exchange Settings.ini
SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - Ruggieri, Roger/Inbox'
SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Mailbox - Ruggieri, Roger/Junk E-Mail'
Moving and spam training message 'Delivered: Test Letters at your location' -  Training on message 'Delivered: Test Letters at your location' in 'Mailbox - Ruggieri, Roger/Junk Suspects - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method.

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 283, in _Invoke_
  File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 288, in _invoke_
  File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 581, in _invokeex_
  File "addin.pyc", line 637, in OnClick
  File "addin.pyc", line 161, in TrainAsSpam
  File "train.pyc", line 52, in train_message
  File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 273, in learn
  File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 384, in _add_msg
  File "spambayes\storage.pyc", line 304, in _wordinfoset
  File "shelve.pyc", line 130, in __setitem__
  File "bsddb\__init__.pyc", line 218, in __setitem__
bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30978, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery')
 Saving configuration -> C:\Documents and Settings\ruggierir\Application Data\SpamBayes\MS Exchange Settings.ini
SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - Ruggieri, Roger/Inbox'
SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Mailbox - Ruggieri, Roger/Junk E-Mail'
Spam filtering is disabled - ignoring new message
Spam filtering is disabled - ignoring new message
Spam filtering is disabled - ignoring new message
Spam filtering is disabled - ignoring new message
Spam filtering is disabled - ignoring new message
Spam filtering is disabled - ignoring new message
Spam filtering is disabled - ignoring new message
Spam filtering is disabled - ignoring new message
Spam filtering is disabled - ignoring new message
Spam filtering is disabled - ignoring new message
Spam filtering is disabled - ignoring new message
Spam filtering is disabled - ignoring new message
Spam filtering is disabled - ignoring new message
Spam filtering is disabled - ignoring new message
Spam filtering is disabled - ignoring new message
Spam filtering is disabled - ignoring new message
Saving configuration -> C:\Documents and Settings\ruggierir\Application Data\SpamBayes\MS Exchange Settings.ini
SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - Ruggieri, Roger/Inbox'
SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Mailbox - Ruggieri, Roger/Junk E-Mail'
Saving configuration -> C:\Documents and Settings\ruggierir\Application Data\SpamBayes\MS Exchange Settings.ini
SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - Ruggieri, Roger/Inbox'
SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Mailbox - Ruggieri, Roger/Junk E-Mail'
Message 'your 405,000.00 lo an' in 'Mailbox - Ruggieri, Roger/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Unsure'
Moving and spam training message 'your 405,000.00 lo an' -  Training on message 'your 405,000.00 lo an' in 'Mailbox - Ruggieri, Roger/Junk Suspects - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method.

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 283, in _Invoke_
  File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 288, in _invoke_
  File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 581, in _invokeex_
  File "addin.pyc", line 637, in OnClick
  File "addin.pyc", line 161, in TrainAsSpam
  File "train.pyc", line 52, in train_message
  File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 273, in learn
  File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 384, in _add_msg
  File "spambayes\storage.pyc", line 304, in _wordinfoset
  File "shelve.pyc", line 130, in __setitem__
  File "bsddb\__init__.pyc", line 218, in __setitem__
bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30978, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery')
From AldenL at seattlerep.org  Tue Feb 15 19:51:51 2005
From: AldenL at seattlerep.org (Alden Lavin)
Date: Tue Feb 15 19:55:31 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes with Terminal Services
Message-ID: <0375911962CB2249BB7694D8A5AB287921C3@jeditemple.seattlerep.org>

Greetings,
 
I'm looking for a way to install Spambayes 1.03 on my Windows 2000 Terminal
Server so that each user has the option of choosing to use the Spambayes
Outlook plugin.
 
I have used the registry utility included with Spambayes to add it to
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE but it forces each user to configure Spambayes.
 
I need to be able to make the Spambayes Outlook Plugin available to each
user without forcing the setup wizard upon them. Any ideas?
 
Thank you,
 
Alden Lavin
Seattle, WA
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From sole at soleassociates.com  Tue Feb 15 22:13:58 2005
From: sole at soleassociates.com (Kenneth Sole)
Date: Tue Feb 15 22:13:27 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Duplicate messages handled differently...?
In-Reply-To: <004c01c5136a$1ea02500$6801a8c0@kenneth00>
Message-ID: <000601c513a3$4450cc30$6801a8c0@kenneth00>

Hi Tony & All,

I just had another message move to the Review folder though its Spam
score was over 98%. It is the "Viicodin" message below.

Here is the relevant piece of the log, but, unfortunately, I can't
make sufficient sense of it. The relevant material starts in line 4
below:

The timer with id=23902 was stopped
The new message timer found no new items, so is stopping
OnItemAdd event for folder  with item Viicodin for 0nly $178 qZzAh3
New message timer started - id=22721, delay=2000
The timer with id=22721 fired
The timer with id=22721 was stopped
The new message timer found no new items, so is stopping
OnItemAdd event for folder  with item Patagonia - Winterfest Sale
New message timer started - id=22712, delay=2000
The timer with id=22712 fired
The timer with id=22712 was stopped
The new message timer found no new items, so is stopping


Thanks for any help on this,

--
Kenneth

   Sole & Associates, Inc.
   Box 292
   Durham, New Hampshire 03824
 Voice: 603-659-3169
   Fax: 603-659-2248
 Email: sole@soleAssociates.com
   URL: http://www.soleAssociates.com
   PGP:
http://wwwkeys.ch.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE17941C6

-----Original Message-----
From: spambayes-bounces@python.org
[mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of Kenneth Sole
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 9:25 AM
To: 'Kenneth Sole'; 'Tony Meyer'; spambayes@python.org
Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Duplicate messages handled differently...?

Hi again,

I had been focusing on duplicate messages that were sent by SpamBayes
to different folders, but that seems have to been a mistake on my
part: I just noticed about a dozen messages that were sent to my
Review folder though they all had Spam scores over 90%.

But then it gets weirder:

I looked in the log for those messages, but they do not appear at
all...

(I should add that I have my log verbosity set to "0.")

Thanks for any further help,

--
Kenneth

   Sole & Associates, Inc.
   Box 292
   Durham, New Hampshire 03824
 Voice: 603-659-3169
   Fax: 603-659-2248
 Email: sole@soleAssociates.com
   URL: http://www.soleAssociates.com
   PGP:
http://wwwkeys.ch.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE17941C6

-----Original Message-----
From: spambayes-bounces@python.org
[mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of Kenneth Sole
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 9:06 AM
To: 'Kenneth Sole'; 'Tony Meyer'; spambayes@python.org
Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Duplicate messages handled differently...?

Dear Tony & all,

Here are the spam clues for a message that was in my Review folder,
and also in my Spam folder:

As Tony said earlier, it is "about as Spammy as you can get, but the
two identical messages are handled differently by SpamBayes. Below the
Clues, I have provided the log.

Combined Score: 100% (0.997149)
Internal ham score (*H*): 0.00519378
Internal spam score (*S*): 0.999491

# ham trained on: 143
# spam trained on: 725
46 Significant Tokens
token                               spamprob         #ham  #spam
'inc.'                              0.083481           45     20
'bi:please let'                     0.151285            4      3
'recent'                            0.159347           11     10
'consultant'                        0.225851            3      4
'new'                               0.247485           68    113
'second'                            0.252054            9     15
'thank'                             0.272227           45     85
'senior'                            0.293227            3      6
'please'                            0.297894           88    189
'year,'                             0.298036            2      4
'did'                               0.305063           19     42
'accurate.'                         0.311207            1      2
'bi:content-type:text/plain subject:You' 0.311207            1      2
'bi:that two'                       0.311207            1      2
'skip:n 10'                         0.316825           15     35
'not'                               0.328949           85    211
'business'                          0.339118           22     57
'subject:.'                         0.340599           23     60
'happy'                             0.349989           14     38
'bi:this your'                      0.384719            1      3
'have'                              0.388424           78    251
'header:Reply-To:1'                 0.632261           22    192
'bi:to:2**0 x-mailer:none'          0.647024           40    372
'bi:header:Subject:1 proto:http'    0.662693           33    329
'url:php'                           0.772258            7    121
'bi:reach you'                      0.844828            0      1
'bi:been notified'                  0.908163            0      2
'bi:credit history'                 0.908163            0      2
'bi:offer past'                     0.908163            0      2
'bi:site ensure'                    0.908163            0      2
'factor.'                           0.908163            0      2
'inquiry,'                          0.908163            0      2
'url:biz'                           0.923664            1     64
'advisors'                          0.934783            0      3
'bi:our terms'                      0.934783            0      3
'bi:records are'                    0.934783            0      3
'secure,'                           0.934783            0      3
'bi:offering you'                   0.949438            0      4
'bi:this special'                   0.949438            0      4
'remember,'                         0.958716            0      5
'bi:accordance with'                0.965116            0      6
'deal.'                             0.965116            0      6
'lenders'                           0.965116            0      6
'url:refid'                         0.965116            0      6
'bi:are interested'                 0.969799            0      7
'bi:your information'               0.983271            0     13
Message Stream

Return-Path: 
Delivered-To: soleassociates.com-sole@soleassociates.com
Received: (qmail 15770 invoked by uid 107); 15 Feb 2005 08:16:13 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO 66.132.226.8) (220.83.190.155)
        by s9006.hostcentric.net with SMTP; 15 Feb 2005 08:16:13 -0000
Received: from 6958042271.mankelmuth.com (0330376192.manjok.com
        [212.222.208.79]) by 220.83.190.155 Microsoft
        SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1041); Tue, 15 Feb 2005 02:14:15 -0600
Message-ID: 
From: "WARD Arianna" 
Reply-To: "Julia " 
To: sole@soleassociates.com
Subject: You Qualified.
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 02:14:15 -0600
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
        boundary="8043373382"
X-Webmail-Time: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 04:06:15 -0400


Alert, This is your Second Notification:

Thank you for your recent inquiry, we have been notified that two
lenders are interested in offering you a deal.   Remember, for this
special
offer past credit history is not a factor.

In accordance with our terms please verify your information on our
secure, private site to ensure our records are accurate.

http://www.lendx.biz/index2.php?refid=ph420

Happy New Year,

--MORALES
Senior Business Consultant - Low-Rate Advisors Inc.

Did this reach you in error? please let us know...thx
http://www.lesdgt.com/r.php

All Message Tokens
95 unique tokens

'--morales'
'accordance'
'accurate.'
'advisors'
'alert,'
'are'
'been'
'business'
'cc:none'
'consultant'
'content-type:text/plain'
'credit'
'deal.'
'did'
'ensure'
'error?'
'factor.'
'for'
'from:addr:g.flob227'
'from:addr:manitowoc.gannett.com'
'from:name:ward arianna'
'happy'
'have'
'header:Date:1'
'header:From:1'
'header:MIME-Version:1'
'header:Message-ID:1'
'header:Received:3'
'header:Reply-To:1'
'header:Return-Path:1'
'header:Subject:1'
'header:To:1'
'history'
'inc.'
'information'
'inquiry,'
'interested'
'know...thx'
'lenders'
'let'
'low-rate'
'message-id:@manitouinc.com'
'new'
'not'
'notified'
'offer'
'offering'
'our'
'past'
'please'
'private'
'proto:http'
'reach'
'recent'
'records'
'remember,'
'reply-to:addr:lmason_ln'
'reply-to:addr:manitobalife.com'
'reply-to:name:julia '
'second'
'secure,'
'sender:none'
'senior'
'site'
'skip:n 10'
'special'
'subject: '
'subject:.'
'subject:Qualified.'
'subject:You'
'terms'
'thank'
'that'
'this'
'to:2**0'
'to:addr:sole'
'to:addr:soleassociates.com'
'to:no real name:2**0'
'two'
'url:biz'
'url:com'
'url:index2'
'url:lendx'
'url:lesdgt'
'url:ph420'
'url:php'
'url:r'
'url:refid'
'url:www'
'verify'
'with'
'x-mailer:none'
'year,'
'you'
'your'


Loaded bayes database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Kenneth
Sole\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db'
Loaded message database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Kenneth
Sole\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db'
Bayes database initialized with 724 spam and 143 good messages
SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0.2 (January 2005) starting
(with engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004))
on Windows 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 4)
using Python 2.4 (#60, Nov 30 2004, 11:49:19) [MSC v.1310 32 bit
(Intel)]
SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Desktop/Inbox'
SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Desktop/Junk SPAM'
Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer
FAILED to add the toolbar item 'SpamBayesCommand.Manager' -
(-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.', (0, None, None, None,
0, -2147467259), None)
The above toolbar message is common - recreating the toolbar...
Message 'RE: Starter...?' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification
of 'No'
Message 'Updates on our site (eaten)' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam
classification of 'Unsure'
Moving and spam training message 'Updates on our site (eaten)' -
Training on message 'Updates on our site (eaten)' in 'Desktop/Junk
REVIEW -  trained as spam
Message 'Vecodin, Viiagra are Cheeap OkT' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a
Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'Vecodin, Viiagra are Cheeap OkT' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a
Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'Re [23]' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of
'Yes'
Message '100% Automated System! can earn you 6 Figure Income Online!'
in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'Claim your Gift Card!' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam
classification of 'Yes'
Message 'secret source for deep discount viag-ra' in 'Desktop/Inbox'
had a Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'Claim your Gift Card!' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam
classification of 'Yes'
Message 'FREE Smiley Faces for your email' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a
Spam classification of 'Unsure'
Message 'Don't condoms suck?' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam
classification of 'Yes'
Message 'eBay Favorite Search: gibson banjo' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a
Spam classification of 'No'
Message 'eBay Favorite Search: toyota sienna 2004' in 'Desktop/Inbox'
had a Spam classification of 'No'
Message 'eBay Favorite Search: tommy bahama shirt silk large' in
'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No'
Message 'eBay Favorite Search: yamaha silent guitar' in
'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No'
Message 'eBay Favorite Search: wheatstone concertina' in
'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No'
Message 'eBay Favorite Search: "Nat Nast" shirt silk large -e' in
'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No'
Message 'eBay Favorite Search: vega banjo' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a
Spam classification of 'No'
Message 'eBay Favorite Search: Tommy Bahama silk long -xl -xx' in
'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No'
Message 'eBay Favorite Search: wordperfect office suite' in
'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No'
Message 'Viiagra and Xa'naax are Cheeap kS4xHi' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had
a Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'Miss you already' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam
classification of 'Unsure'
Message 'DESCUENTE SUS CHEQUES' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam
classification of 'Yes'
Message 'viste lo que paso?' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam
classification of 'Yes'
Message 'ADV: your private secret' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam
classification of 'Yes'
Message 'Increase the volume of your ejaculation.' in 'Desktop/Inbox'
had a Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'do you hate traffic cameras?-quizzes butt ' in
'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'Interested' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of
'Yes'
Message 'Have a document to print but you are low on ink?' in
'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'Tadalafil Soft Tabs - Great results!' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had
a Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'Harder means happier! tips and tricks inside' in
'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'Become happy with your performance' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a
Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'You Qualified.' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification
of 'Yes'
Message 'You Qualified.' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification
of 'Yes'
Message 'Super Bases 14  CDs $ 80.-' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam
classification of 'Yes'
Message 'First-Rate Rx' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification
of 'Yes'
Message 'Vecodiin, Viiagra are Cheeap meA0' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a
Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'Vecodiin, Viiagra are Cheeap meA0' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a
Spam classification of 'Yes'
Message 'You Qualified.' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam classification
of 'Yes'




It would appear from the log that the message ("You Qualified") came
in twice, and was classified as Spam both times. Yes, as on occasion
before, one is moved the the Spam Folder, and one is moved to the
"Review" folder.

What might be appropriate next steps to figure this out?

Very sincere thanks,

--
Kenneth

   Sole & Associates, Inc.
   Box 292
   Durham, New Hampshire 03824
 Voice: 603-659-3169
   Fax: 603-659-2248
 Email: sole@soleAssociates.com
   URL: http://www.soleAssociates.com
   PGP:
http://wwwkeys.ch.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE17941C6

-----Original Message-----
From: spambayes-bounces@python.org
[mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of Kenneth Sole
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 9:45 AM
To: 'Kenneth Sole'; 'Tony Meyer'; spambayes@python.org
Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Duplicate messages handled differently...?

Hello again,

I just saw that my log is written each time I run a send/receive
cycle. As a result, the log that I sent might not be relevant to my
issue.

Thanks,

--
Kenneth

   Sole & Associates, Inc.
   Box 292
   Durham, New Hampshire 03824
 Voice: 603-659-3169
   Fax: 603-659-2248
 Email: sole@soleAssociates.com
   URL: http://www.soleAssociates.com
   PGP:
http://wwwkeys.ch.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE17941C6

-----Original Message-----
From: Kenneth Sole [mailto:sole@soleassociates.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 9:40 AM
To: 'Tony Meyer'; 'Kenneth Sole'; spambayes@python.org
Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Duplicate messages handled differently...?

Hi Tony & All,

I just received another duplicate message. As happens occasionally,
one went to the Spam Folder, and the other to my Review Folder.

Here is the Log:

Loaded bayes database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Kenneth
Sole\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db'
Loaded message database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Kenneth
Sole\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db'
Bayes database initialized with 652 spam and 134 good messages
SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0.2 (January 2005) starting
(with engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004))
on Windows 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 4)
using Python 2.4 (#60, Nov 30 2004, 11:49:19) [MSC v.1310 32 bit
(Intel)]
SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Desktop/Inbox'
SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Desktop/Junk SPAM'
Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer
FAILED to add the toolbar item 'SpamBayesCommand.Manager' -
(-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.', (0, None, None, None,
0, -2147467259), None)
The above toolbar message is common - recreating the toolbar...
Message 'cleanse bijective ' in 'Desktop/Inbox' had a Spam
classification of 'Unsure'


Is the line:

"Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer"

the indication of my problem?


I should add that the log above is the one visible when I first
noticed the double message. I get mail frequently and wonder if the
log I have above might be from a run after the message was received.
How might I know that?


Thanks for any further help,

--
Kenneth

   Sole & Associates, Inc.
   Box 292
   Durham, New Hampshire 03824
 Voice: 603-659-3169
   Fax: 603-659-2248
 Email: sole@soleAssociates.com
   URL: http://www.soleAssociates.com
   PGP:
http://wwwkeys.ch.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE17941C6

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz]
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 5:58 PM
To: 'Kenneth Sole'; spambayes@python.org
Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Duplicate messages handled differently...?

> Well, it did not take long to have the opportunity to check the
> "clues." I just received two messages (an eBay phishing spam). One
> moved to my review folder, the other to my spam folder. The messages
> appeared identical, and so as per your suggestion, I checked the
> "clues."
>
> To my surprise, they appear identical as well...

And they both scored 100%, which as spammy as you can get.  This means
that
it's not a problem with correctly scoring the message, but with moving
the
message to the spam folder.

Next time this happens could you grab a copy of your log file
(SpamBayes->SpamBayes Manager->Advanced->Diagnostics->View Log) and
send us
a copy of that?  Either there will be an error or there should be
clues in
the messages that are there that will let us figure out what's
happening.

=Tony.Meyer

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_______________________________________________
Spambayes@python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes
Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html


_______________________________________________
Spambayes@python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes
Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html

_______________________________________________
Spambayes@python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes
Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html

From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Wed Feb 16 00:05:07 2005
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Wed Feb 16 00:05:15 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] (-30978, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error,
	run database recovery 
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

> After that the tool bar does not work.

Please see FAQ 5.2:



=Tony.Meyer

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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Wed Feb 16 00:08:11 2005
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Wed Feb 16 00:08:18 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes with Terminal Services
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

> I have used the registry utility included with Spambayes
> to add it to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE but it forces each user 
> to configure Spambayes.
>
> I need to be able to make the Spambayes Outlook Plugin
> available to each user without forcing the setup wizard
> upon them. Any ideas?

If there is already a configuration file, then the wizard won't appear.  So
you could manually put one there for each user, and it won't appear.

Of course, the wizard is there for a reason - the plug-in won't be much use
unless it's configured, the most important part of which is selecting the
ham/unsure/spam folders.  You could enter this data in the configuration
file manually, but it would be complicated (unless you have a simple method
of getting the appropriate Outlook ids for the various folders).

=Tony.Meyer

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(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.

From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Wed Feb 16 00:11:43 2005
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Wed Feb 16 00:11:49 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Key error
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

> What would be the name of the existing file to remove?

By default, spambayes.messageinfo.db in the same directory as your
configuration file (but you can set this to anything via the web interface).

> Another weird thing is that the spam filter is continuing to work ok.  
> Also sb_mboxtrain.py works fine.  Just sb_server.py freaks out.

What are you using to filter?  sb_filter?  Neither sb_filter nor
sb_mboxtrain make use of the messageinfo database at this point.  (Outlook,
sb_server, sb_imapfilter and sb_pop3dnd all do).

=Tony.Meyer

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(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.

From please_do_not_reply at cozahost.com  Tue Feb 15 11:42:45 2005
From: please_do_not_reply at cozahost.com (please_do_not_reply@cozahost.com)
Date: Wed Feb 16 00:41:56 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] RE: Re: Encrypted Mail
Message-ID: <450401c5134b$159490a0$0301000a@cozahost.com>

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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Wed Feb 16 01:20:58 2005
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Wed Feb 16 01:21:05 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes with Terminal Services
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

> Thank you for your quick response. I see the logic in what 
> you're suggesting but I'm not sure it'll solve my problem 
> altogether. The end goal is to only provide Spambayes to the 
> people who request it.
> 
> If I manually setup the configuration file and copy it to 
> each user's profile, each user will have Spambayes process 
> their inbox. I really need to have the ability to apply it to 
> certain users and exclude everyone else.

So only copy it to the users that want it.  You'd have to manually setup the
configuration file for each user anyway, since their folder ids will all be
different.  (If you're going to this bother, though, it would seem easier to
me to just log in as that user and setup SpamBayes for them).

> I may be asking for the impossible, but if I can get it to 
> work it'll save my company a bunch of money on spam filtering 
> software and Spambayes is a very good product.

The thing is that *somehow* you have to configure the plug-in, otherwise it
won't know what to do.  You can do this via the wizard or with the SpamBayes
Manager dialog, or (if absolutely necessary) by hand editing a text file.
One of those has got to be done if individuals are going to be set up.

> If you can think of anything else I'd really enjoy hearing
> about it.

The only other thing I can think of is that you could use a modified version
of the plug-in that creates a config file if one isn't there, selecting the
default store's inbox as the watch folder, and creating and selecting unsure
and spam folders.  It wouldn't be too difficult to modify the plug-in to do
this (some code could be borrowed from the wizard).

However, if you install SpamBayes for all users, then this will activate
SpamBayes for all users, too.  You'd have to only register the plug-in for
those that wanted it.

=Tony.Meyer

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(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
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From wealthychef at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 16 07:31:44 2005
From: wealthychef at yahoo.com (Rich Cook)
Date: Wed Feb 16 07:31:48 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Key error
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <1b1a1d33d6a9d4b508cd434a0ebe7b29@yahoo.com>

That did it.  Moving that file fixed my problem.  I appreciate the help!
And now that I think of it, I did "exit" the server once by doing a 
control-C..  That must have corrupted whatever that database is.   :-(  
Sorry!

On Feb 15, 2005, at 3:11 PM, Tony Meyer wrote:

>> What would be the name of the existing file to remove?
>
> By default, spambayes.messageinfo.db in the same directory as your
> configuration file (but you can set this to anything via the web 
> interface).
>
>> Another weird thing is that the spam filter is continuing to work ok.
>> Also sb_mboxtrain.py works fine.  Just sb_server.py freaks out.
>
> What are you using to filter?  sb_filter?  Neither sb_filter nor
> sb_mboxtrain make use of the messageinfo database at this point.  
> (Outlook,
> sb_server, sb_imapfilter and sb_pop3dnd all do).
>
> =Tony.Meyer
>
> -- 
> Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies
> (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
> http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.
>
--
Rich "wealthychef" Cook
925-784-3077
--
Every time you download music, God kills a kitten.

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From: ivan_hduwe35 at yahoo.com.br (ivan)
Date: Wed Feb 16 13:09:02 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Listas de e-mails: http://www.gueb.de/segmails
Message-ID: 

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From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV  Wed Feb 16 18:22:03 2005
From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob)
Date: Wed Feb 16 18:22:09 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes with Terminal Services
Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5022C37D@SPIKE.city>

Publish a .BAT file in some common directory. Then tell your users that anyone who wants Spambayes should copy that .BAT file into his startup directory. The .BAT file will copy the standard SB configuration into the user's profile, then delete itself. The user can then tell the SB Manager the names of his Spam and Spambiguous folders (or you can tell the user what the folders have to be called and you can preset the names in the configuration).

There are various other ways to do it, involving group policies, run-once directories, etc., etc. But this way is pretty simple and should work.

Bob

MIS Department, City of Cambridge
831 Massachusetts Ave, Cambridge MA 02139  ?  617-349-4217  ?  fax 617-349-6165

> -----Original Message-----
> From: spambayes-bounces@python.org
> [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of Tony Meyer
> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 7:21 PM
> To: 'Alden Lavin'
> Cc: spambayes@python.org
> Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Spambayes with Terminal Services
> 
> 
> > Thank you for your quick response. I see the logic in what 
> > you're suggesting but I'm not sure it'll solve my problem 
> > altogether. The end goal is to only provide Spambayes to the 
> > people who request it.
> > 
> > If I manually setup the configuration file and copy it to 
> > each user's profile, each user will have Spambayes process 
> > their inbox. I really need to have the ability to apply it to 
> > certain users and exclude everyone else.
> 
> So only copy it to the users that want it.  You'd have to manually setup the
> configuration file for each user anyway, since their folder ids will all be
> different.  (If you're going to this bother, though, it would seem easier to
> me to just log in as that user and setup SpamBayes for them).
> 
> > I may be asking for the impossible, but if I can get it to 
> > work it'll save my company a bunch of money on spam filtering 
> > software and Spambayes is a very good product.
> 
> The thing is that *somehow* you have to configure the plug-in, otherwise it
> won't know what to do.  You can do this via the wizard or with the SpamBayes
> Manager dialog, or (if absolutely necessary) by hand editing a text file.
> One of those has got to be done if individuals are going to be set up.
> 
> > If you can think of anything else I'd really enjoy hearing
> > about it.
> 
> The only other thing I can think of is that you could use a modified version
> of the plug-in that creates a config file if one isn't there, selecting the
> default store's inbox as the watch folder, and creating and selecting unsure
> and spam folders.  It wouldn't be too difficult to modify the plug-in to do
> this (some code could be borrowed from the wizard).
> 
> However, if you install SpamBayes for all users, then this will activate
> SpamBayes for all users, too.  You'd have to only register the plug-in for
> those that wanted it.
> 
> =Tony.Meyer
From dpackard at guardian-angels.org  Wed Feb 16 18:26:48 2005
From: dpackard at guardian-angels.org (Denise Packard)
Date: Wed Feb 16 18:26:55 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Local admin rights
Message-ID: <003d01c5144c$b264aee0$2501a8c0@GAC.guardianangels.org>

Hello,
 
Is there a way to install spambayes 1.0.3.exe on computers w/o local admin
rights?
 
Thanks,
Denise
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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Wed Feb 16 23:45:18 2005
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Wed Feb 16 23:45:24 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] (-30978, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error,
	run database recovery 
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

> I tried finding pickle, but the there is no option "(web
> interface: Configuration/Advanced Configuration/Storage
> Options/" Use database for storage: No).  Where do I find
> this option?

Sorry, users of the 1.0.x binary Outlook plug-in can't change their
underlying database type.  I'll update the FAQ so this is more clear
(database corruption is very rare, but extremely so with the plug-in).

=Tony.Meyer

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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Wed Feb 16 23:52:25 2005
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Wed Feb 16 23:52:32 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Local admin rights
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

> Is there a way to install spambayes 1.0.3.exe on
> computers w/o local admin rights?

If you're wanting to install anything other than the Outlook plug-in, then
all you should need is the ability to copy the files somewhere (if you want
the tray app to run on startup, then you'll also need write access to the
user's startup items folder, of course).

If you want to install the Outlook plug-in, then IIRC the only registry
write access needed is in HKEY_LOCAL_USER.  This is required (without it
Outlook has no way of knowing about the plug-in), but would typically be
available to any level of user, I would think.

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
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(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
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From rmalayter at bai.org  Thu Feb 17 00:13:52 2005
From: rmalayter at bai.org (Ryan Malayter)
Date: Thu Feb 17 00:13:56 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Local admin rights
Message-ID: <792DE28E91F6EA42B4663AE761C41C2A03B45071@cliff.bai.org>

[Tony Meyer]
>If you want to install the Outlook plug-in, then IIRC the 
>only registry write access needed is in HKEY_LOCAL_USER. 
>This is required (without it Outlook has no way of knowing 
>about the plug-in), but would typically be
>available to any level of user, I would think.

Actually, looking at my system, I see there are several rights required
for SpamBayes installation that are NOT granted to the basic "Users"
security group:
  -write access to C:\Program Files
  -write access to HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT (where the outlook addin is
registered)
  -write access to various keys under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software
  -write access the the "default user" subkey of HKEY_USERS

From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Thu Feb 17 00:22:29 2005
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Thu Feb 17 00:22:35 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Local admin rights
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

[Tony Meyer]
>> If you want to install the Outlook plug-in, then IIRC the
>> only registry write access needed is in HKEY_LOCAL_USER. 
>> This is required (without it Outlook has no way of knowing 
>> about the plug-in), but would typically be
>> available to any level of user, I would think.

[Ryan Malayter]
> Actually, looking at my system, I see there are several 
> rights required for SpamBayes installation that are NOT 
> granted to the basic "Users" security group:
>   -write access to C:\Program Files

Well, you choose where to install as part of the installation process, so
this is just a case of choosing somewhere you can put the files.

>   -write access to HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT (where the outlook addin is
> registered)
>   -write access to various keys under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software
>   -write access the the "default user" subkey of HKEY_USERS

These are more of a problem then (that's why I put in the IIRC ;).  Do you
know if it is possible to register an Outlook plug-in without these keys?
If it is, then I'd be happy to modify the SpamBayes registration, if
possible.

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies
(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.

From robert.mezzone at pjsolomon.com  Thu Feb 17 00:24:03 2005
From: robert.mezzone at pjsolomon.com (Robert Mezzone)
Date: Thu Feb 17 00:24:06 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Local admin rights
Message-ID: 

Has anyone tried installing it using Run As function? Not sure if that would work.

Hold down shift key, right click on the exe file and select run as. Enter the admins password in the dialog box.

Robert


-----Original Message-----
From: spambayes-bounces+rmezzone=pjsolomon.com@python.org 
To: Tony Meyer ; Denise Packard ; spambayes@python.org 
Sent: Wed Feb 16 18:13:52 2005
Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Local admin rights

[Tony Meyer]
>If you want to install the Outlook plug-in, then IIRC the 
>only registry write access needed is in HKEY_LOCAL_USER. 
>This is required (without it Outlook has no way of knowing 
>about the plug-in), but would typically be
>available to any level of user, I would think.

Actually, looking at my system, I see there are several rights required
for SpamBayes installation that are NOT granted to the basic "Users"
security group:
  -write access to C:\Program Files
  -write access to HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT (where the outlook addin is
registered)
  -write access to various keys under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software
  -write access the the "default user" subkey of HKEY_USERS

_______________________________________________
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http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes
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From rmalayter at bai.org  Thu Feb 17 01:01:47 2005
From: rmalayter at bai.org (Ryan Malayter)
Date: Thu Feb 17 01:01:51 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Local admin rights
Message-ID: <792DE28E91F6EA42B4663AE761C41C2A03B45080@cliff.bai.org>

[Tony Meyer]
>Do you know if it is possible to register an Outlook plug-in without 
>these keys?

The add-in itself appears to be registered with outlook in the USER
portion of the registry:
 
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\Outlook\Addins\SpamBayes.Out
lookAddin

However, the SpamBayes.OutlookAddin ProgID appears to be registered in a
protected part of the registry:
  HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\AppID\{3556EDEE-FC91-4cf2-A0E4-7489747BAB10}
  HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{3556EDEE-FC91-4cf2-A0E4-7489747BAB10}
  HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\SpamBayes.OutlookAddin

Instead, I would think you could put similar entries into the
corresponding parts of the user's registry hive:
  HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\AppID
  HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\CLSID
  HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\SpamBayes.OutlookAddin

Of course, the spambayes program files and DLLs themselves would have to
go into the %USERPROFILE%\Application Data directory, which is the only
place a "standard user" can write on the machine.

Regards,
	Ryan
From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Thu Feb 17 01:16:10 2005
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Thu Feb 17 01:16:15 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Local admin rights
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

>> Do you know if it is possible to register an Outlook plug-in without 
>> these keys?
> 
> The add-in itself appears to be registered with outlook in the USER
> portion of the registry:
[snip]

Thanks for the info; much appreciated.  I don't have time to look at this
right now, but it sound be feasible to make these changes, so I've opened a
tracker:

[ 1124409 ] Remove admin registry write requirements for install


=Tony.Meyer

-- 
Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies
(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.

From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Thu Feb 17 06:16:01 2005
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Thu Feb 17 06:16:12 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Duplicate messages handled differently...?
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

> I had been focusing on duplicate messages that were sent by 
> SpamBayes to different folders, but that seems have to been a 
> mistake on my part:

So that wasn't happening?  Just this other problem?

> I just noticed about a dozen messages that were sent to 
> my Review folder though they all had Spam scores over 90%.

This has been seen a few times, but still has no identified cause:

[ 972359 ] some 100% SPAM sent to unsure


> But then it gets weirder:
> 
> I looked in the log for those messages, but they do not 
> appear at all...

However, this isn't the case with the others (AFAIK).  I can't see how
SpamBayes can manage to do filtering without writing the log entry.  Are we
certain that there isn't a second SpamBayes instance or something?

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies
(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.

From A.Sharff at astex-technology.com  Thu Feb 17 15:23:33 2005
From: A.Sharff at astex-technology.com (Andrew Sharff)
Date: Thu Feb 17 15:23:35 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes and outlook 2003
Message-ID: 

I have just discovered a problem running spambayes and outlook 2003. Up
to now everything has been working well, until we upgraded our exchange
server to exchange 2003.

I would like to change the settings on my email account to use cached
exchange mode (keeps a copy of all mail on my local pc so if exchange
server  fails, then I have a local copy of all my email).

However, spambayes does not work if cached exchange mode is enabled - is
there a workaround for this?

Andrew Sharff

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From: savgw at architelpartners.com (savgw@architelpartners.com)
Date: Thu Feb 17 15:28:32 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Virus found in a message you sent
Message-ID: <20050217142830.594971E4002@bag.python.org>

A virus was found in a message sent by this
account.

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From: spambayes@python.org
To: info@edgate.com
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 08:13:32 -0600
Subject: Re: Secure delivery
Message-Id: <200502171411.j1HEBOnW016177@mail3.edgate.com>
Received: from BlackHole.architelpartners.com ([10.10.10.17])
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From pdelreal at uagunix.uag.mx  Thu Feb 17 17:32:18 2005
From: pdelreal at uagunix.uag.mx (Pedro del Real L)
Date: Thu Feb 17 17:32:50 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] No tray icon appears
Message-ID: <4214C712.7020101@uag.mx>

hi.... I'm complete new in this, so sorry if it is too fool my doubt
I use Win XP SP2, and Netscape
I installed SpamBayes 1.0.3 but I can not see any tray icon of SpamBayes
so I can't do anytihing to configure...

any idea ???

thanks
From Harold.Vandeventer at dpra.com  Thu Feb 17 17:33:52 2005
From: Harold.Vandeventer at dpra.com (Harold Vandeventer)
Date: Thu Feb 17 17:36:10 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes and outlook 2003
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From TJLWBECGSGWU at spammotel.com  Thu Feb 17 22:49:37 2005
From: TJLWBECGSGWU at spammotel.com (Mathew Hendry)
Date: Thu Feb 17 22:50:38 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Spambayes and outlook 2003
References: 
Message-ID: 

"Andrew Sharff"  wrote in
:

>I have just discovered a problem running spambayes and outlook 2003. Up
>to now everything has been working well, until we upgraded our exchange
>server to exchange 2003.
>
>I would like to change the settings on my email account to use cached
>exchange mode (keeps a copy of all mail on my local pc so if exchange
>server  fails, then I have a local copy of all my email).
>
>However, spambayes does not work if cached exchange mode is enabled - is
>there a workaround for this?

That same setup's working fine for me at work. What's going wrong for you?
What happens if you reinstall SpamBayes after switching to cached mode?

-- Mat.


From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Thu Feb 17 23:06:06 2005
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Thu Feb 17 23:06:19 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] No tray icon appears
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

> I installed SpamBayes 
> 1.0.3 but I can not see any tray icon of SpamBayes so I can't 
> do anytihing to configure...

When running the installer, did you leave the "Execute SpamBayes each time
Windows starts" box ticked?  If not, then you'll have to start SpamBayes
manually (there should be a shortcut in the Start Menu).

If SpamBayes is in the Startup Items, then something might be going wrong,
preventing it from starting (although I don't recall seeing anyone report
this before).  Check to see if there are any SpamBayes log files (the
troubleshooting guide explains where to find them) and send us a copy if
there are.

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies
(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.

From hathanassiou at automatedcell.com  Thu Feb 17 23:20:08 2005
From: hathanassiou at automatedcell.com (Harry Athanassiou)
Date: Thu Feb 17 23:20:17 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] outlook addin and psyco
Message-ID: <001701c5153e$d72d6800$6401a8c0@SALAMINIA>

This may have been asked before. Can we use psyco with the outlook addin?
 
Harry Athanassiou
BioInformatics manager
Automated Cell, Inc
 
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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Thu Feb 17 23:29:22 2005
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Thu Feb 17 23:29:26 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] outlook addin and psyco
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

> Can we use psyco with the outlook addin?

Assuming you are running from source, I don't see why not.  (Whether it will
make any noticeable difference is speed is another question).

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies
(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.

From pdelreal at uagunix.uag.mx  Fri Feb 18 16:40:30 2005
From: pdelreal at uagunix.uag.mx (Pedro del Real L)
Date: Fri Feb 18 16:41:20 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy: "Configure" isn't saving
	changes
Message-ID: <42160C6E.8020307@uag.mx>

hi, need some help because I'm not so good on computers....
I am using SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 1.0.3 (January 2005) (binary), 
with version 2.4 (#60, Nov 30 2004, 11:49:19) [MSC v.1310 32 bit 
(Intel)] of Python; my operating system is Windows 5.1.2600.2 (Service 
Pack 2).  I have trained 0 ham and 0 spam.

The problem I am having is: I go to "Configure", in "POP3 Proxy Options" 
and in Remote Servers I put the server (that appears in my e-mail 
client) and in SpamBayes Ports as advice 110 (or 8110) when I click Save 
the following message appears...  what I didn't do or what I'm not doing

500 Server error
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "spambayes\Dibbler.pyc", line 470, in found_terminator
  File "spambayes\UserInterface.pyc", line 793, in onChangeopts
  File "spambayes\ProxyUI.pyc", line 729, in reReadOptions
  File "sb_server.pyc", line 857, in _recreateState
  File "sb_server.pyc", line 686, in close
AssertionError: closed without being prepared!
 
From dmccormick at cxtec.com  Fri Feb 18 21:35:24 2005
From: dmccormick at cxtec.com (Dave McCormick)
Date: Fri Feb 18 21:35:29 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] I have tried everything and spambayes does not filer
	anything.
Message-ID: <25AC2CBEEFA22F49BC36DED1250EB6A805BA3A0E@cxmailx.ad.cxtec.com>

Log file below:
 
 
Loaded bayes database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\DaveM\Application
Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db'
Loaded message database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\DaveM\Application
Data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db'
Bayes database initialized with 5 spam and 27 good messages
SpamBayes Outlook Addin, Binary version 0.81 (September 9, 2003) starting
(with engine SpamBayes Beta2, version 0.2 (July 2003))
on Windows 5.1.2600 (Service Pack 1)
using Python 2.3.2 (#49, Oct  2 2003, 20:02:00) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)]
SpamBayes: Watching for new messages in folder  Inbox
SpamBayes: Watching for new messages in folder  Inbox-Spam
Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer
FAILED to add the toolbar item 'SpamBayesCommand.Manager' - (-2147352567,
'Exception occurred.', (0, None, None, None, 0, -2147467259), None)
Deleted the dead popup control - re-creating
 
Dave McCormick
Senior Technical Support Engineer
CXTec
Phone:315 476-3100 ext 2374
Fax: 315 455 1800
www.cxtec.com  
 
3Com Certified Solutions Expert
3Com Certified Networked Telephony Specialist
   
 
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From robertk at video-phones-evdo.com  Fri Feb 18 21:46:18 2005
From: robertk at video-phones-evdo.com (Robert Kim,
	Wireless Internet Consultant)
Date: Fri Feb 18 21:49:32 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] I have tried everything and spambayes does not
	fileranything.
In-Reply-To: <25AC2CBEEFA22F49BC36DED1250EB6A805BA3A0E@cxmailx.ad.cxtec.com>
Message-ID: 

 
is there a way to get spambayes to consolidate a list of subject lines
and send one email every couple hours asking for permission to trash???
 
bob
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]
On Behalf Of Dave McCormick
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 12:35 PM
To: 'spambayes@python.org'
Subject: [Spambayes] I have tried everything and spambayes does not
fileranything.


Log file below:
 
 
Loaded bayes database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\DaveM\Application
Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db'
Loaded message database from 'C:\Documents and
Settings\DaveM\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db'
Bayes database initialized with 5 spam and 27 good messages
SpamBayes Outlook Addin, Binary version 0.81 (September 9, 2003)
starting (with engine SpamBayes Beta2, version 0.2 (July 2003))
on Windows 5.1.2600 (Service Pack 1)
using Python 2.3.2 (#49, Oct  2 2003, 20:02:00) [MSC v.1200 32 bit
(Intel)]
SpamBayes: Watching for new messages in folder  Inbox
SpamBayes: Watching for new messages in folder  Inbox-Spam
Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer
FAILED to add the toolbar item 'SpamBayesCommand.Manager' -
(-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.', (0, None, None, None, 0,
-2147467259), None)
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From vze5bgzj at verizon.net  Fri Feb 18 22:44:38 2005
From: vze5bgzj at verizon.net (Mike Blonder)
Date: Fri Feb 18 22:23:42 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Install Probs SuSE 9.1
Message-ID: <421661C6.9030807@verizon.net>

Hi.

I receive the following error when I attempt to install spambayes-1.0.3 
on a SuSE 9.1 Linux System:

Traceback (most recent call last):
     File "./setup.py", Line 12, in ?
         from distutils.core import setup
ImportError: no module named distutils.core

Anyone hit this?

Thanks

Mike

From sethg at GoodmanAssociates.com  Sat Feb 19 00:51:09 2005
From: sethg at GoodmanAssociates.com (Seth Goodman)
Date: Sat Feb 19 00:51:15 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] get you pop-up off my decktop page
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

If there is a pop-up ad claiming to be for SpamBayes, it is possible that it
is bogus and/or dangerous.  On the other hand, if it is really offering
SpamBayes for sale, that's a pity since anyone can download the latest
executables _and_ source code for free.  See for yourself at
http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/index.html

As Tony mentioned, this is an open-source, free to the public application
written and supported by an unaffiliated group of individual developers.
There are no revenues and thus no money to advertise nor even pay
developers.  Would it be possible to send a screen-shot that shows the ad?
Better yet would be to see the HTML source code for the ad so we can figure
out who is responsible.

--

Seth Goodman


-----Original Message-----
From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On
Behalf Of JOHNDOLPAT@aol.com
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 5:36 PM
To: spambayes@python.org
Subject: [Spambayes] get you pop-up off my decktop page


Your marketing with spam pop-ups is obnoxious. To do something so pushy and
invasive is not the earmark of a reputable company. Get your crummy add off
my decktop page!!! Hell will freeze over before I will click "yes" to your
rotten ad which confronts me 24/7. Just drop dead, but get your stinking ad
off my desk top page before you do!

From T.A.Meyer at massey.ac.nz  Sat Feb 19 09:45:01 2005
From: T.A.Meyer at massey.ac.nz (Meyer, Tony)
Date: Sat Feb 19 09:45:15 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Install Probs SuSE 9.1
Message-ID: 

> I receive the following error when I attempt to install
> spambayes-1.0.3 on a SuSE 9.1 Linux System:
> 
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>      File "./setup.py", Line 12, in ?
>          from distutils.core import setup
> ImportError: no module named distutils.core

On some systems you need the python-dev package installed to have distutils available, I believe.  Something along the lines of "apt-get install python-dev" should fix it.

(This is mentioned in the last paragraph of the "prerequisites" section of the README).

I assume (but do not know for certain) that this is actually only necessary for the install process, which just copies the scripts and the spambayes package directory.  You could presumably run SpamBayes without this, simply by ensuring that the spambayes directory is on the PYTHONPATH (e.g. setting the PYTHONPATH environment variable to include the spambayes directory).

=Tony.Meyer


From mike at imbenterprises.com  Sat Feb 19 13:16:54 2005
From: mike at imbenterprises.com (Mike Blonder)
Date: Sat Feb 19 12:56:01 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Install Probs SuSE 9.1
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <200502190716.54609.mike@imbenterprises.com>

On Saturday 19 February 2005 03:45, you wrote:
> > I receive the following error when I attempt to install
> > spambayes-1.0.3 on a SuSE 9.1 Linux System:
> >
> > Traceback (most recent call last):
> >      File "./setup.py", Line 12, in ?
> >          from distutils.core import setup
> > ImportError: no module named distutils.core
>
> On some systems you need the python-dev package installed to have distutils
> available, I believe.  Something along the lines of "apt-get install
> python-dev" should fix it.

I figured this out and obtained the right software via YaST

>
> (This is mentioned in the last paragraph of the "prerequisites" section of
> the README).
>
> I assume (but do not know for certain) that this is actually only necessary
> for the install process, which just copies the scripts and the spambayes
> package directory.  You could presumably run SpamBayes without this, simply
> by ensuring that the spambayes directory is on the PYTHONPATH (e.g. setting
> the PYTHONPATH environment variable to include the spambayes directory).

I have the product up and running and am training :) I will attempt to produce 
some edits at the WIKI as the installation documentation is not relevant for 
SuSE, nor for KMail as implemented on SuSE 9.1.

Thanks 

Mike 

>
> =Tony.Meyer
From slevine1 at cinci.rr.com  Sat Feb 19 13:33:27 2005
From: slevine1 at cinci.rr.com (slevine1@cinci.rr.com)
Date: Sat Feb 19 13:33:36 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] running spambayes 
Message-ID: <002301c5167f$36a2be20$5fd61b41@suzanne>

If one is using spam killer from mcafee can you use this program along with it or take out mcafee and run yours?slevine1@cinci.rr.com
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From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV  Sat Feb 19 14:31:34 2005
From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob)
Date: Sat Feb 19 14:31:37 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Local admin rights
Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5022C37F@SPIKE.city>

> From: spambayes-bounces@python.org
> [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of Ryan Malayter
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 7:02 PM
> To: Tony Meyer; Denise Packard; spambayes@python.org
> Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Local admin rights
> 
> 
> [Tony Meyer]
> >Do you know if it is possible to register an Outlook plug-in without 
> >these keys?
> 
> The add-in itself appears to be registered with outlook in the USER
> portion of the registry:
>  
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\Outlook\Addins\SpamBayes.OutlookAddin
> 
> However, the SpamBayes.OutlookAddin ProgID appears to be registered in a
> protected part of the registry:
>   HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\AppID\{3556EDEE-FC91-4cf2-A0E4-7489747BAB10}
>   HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{3556EDEE-FC91-4cf2-A0E4-7489747BAB10}
>   HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\SpamBayes.OutlookAddin
> 
> Instead, I would think you could put similar entries into the
> corresponding parts of the user's registry hive:
>   HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\AppID
>   HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\CLSID
>   HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\SpamBayes.OutlookAddin

I'm not a Registry expert (Is anybody?), but I wonder if you wouldn't lose the ability to register Spambayes for all users of the computer, a capability that does exist currently. Fooling around with the Registry, unless you're absolutely sure of yourself, can be a very bad idea.

> Of course, the spambayes program files and DLLs themselves would have to
> go into the %USERPROFILE%\Application Data directory, which is the only
> place a "standard user" can write on the machine.

If you must do this, at least put the files in the "non-roaming" part of the profile, so the system won't waste time and space copying them to the server.

More broadly, I think this whole line of discussion fails the "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" test. Frankly, I think the Spambayes installation process works just fine the way it is. If it takes administrator privilege, that is, after all, what administrator privilege is for. As a system manager, I should have the ability to decide what software gets made available to our users,and I see no good reason to make it easier for an unsophisticated user to install and use software that we haven't evaluated and don't support.

Of course if the computer is yours, not your employer's, the issue shouldn't arise: just give yourself administrator privilege and have at it.

Bob
From giovannijbd_g5a at mail.com  Sat Feb 19 14:13:40 2005
From: giovannijbd_g5a at mail.com (giovannijbd_g5a@mail.com)
Date: Sat Feb 19 14:32:56 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] listas de emails por classe social
Message-ID: <20050219131305.10B2D80D6@scorpion1.uol.com.br>

email lista listas, emails para mala direta segmentada por estados, MALA DIRETA 
DE E-MAILS SEGMENTADOS GEN?RICOS MIRADOS FOCADOS.

Visite agora:
http://www.gueb.de/divulgamail

e-mails para mala direta por classe social, emails para mala direta por estados, 
listas de emails por classe social, emails para mala direta segmentada por estados:

http://www.gueb.de/divulgamail
From rmalayter at bai.org  Sun Feb 20 16:30:35 2005
From: rmalayter at bai.org (Ryan Malayter)
Date: Sun Feb 20 16:30:39 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Local admin rights
Message-ID: <792DE28E91F6EA42B4663AE761C41C2A03B45715@cliff.bai.org>

[Bob Coe]
>As a system manager, I should 
>have the ability to decide what software gets made available 
>to our users,and I see no good reason to make it easier for 
>an unsophisticated user to install and use software that we 
>haven't evaluated and don't support.

I agree. I was providing the information about the user portion of the
registry because Tony asked, but I don't think we should hack SB so it
is easier for users to circumvent their organization's policies. 

In fact, I think providing an MSI package for SB so administrators can
easily remotely deploy spambayes is a better idea. I have an
organization-specific package that I use now; generalizing said package
for any network may take some time, but I would be willing to do that if
people think such a package would be useful.

Regards,
	Ryan
From rmalayter at bai.org  Sun Feb 20 16:32:44 2005
From: rmalayter at bai.org (Ryan Malayter)
Date: Sun Feb 20 16:32:46 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Local admin rights
Message-ID: <792DE28E91F6EA42B4663AE761C41C2A03B45716@cliff.bai.org>

[Bob Coe]
>As a system manager, I should 
>have the ability to decide what software gets made available 
>to our users,and I see no good reason to make it easier for 
>an unsophisticated user to install and use software that we 
>haven't evaluated and don't support.

I agree. I was providing the information about the user portion of the
registry because Tony asked, but I don't think we should hack SB so it
is easier for users to circumvent their organization's policies. 

In fact, I think providing an MSI package for SB so administrators can
easily remotely deploy spambayes is a better idea. I have an
organization-specific package that I use now; generalizing said package
for any network may take some time, but I would be willing to do that if
people think such a package would be useful.

Regards,
	Ryan
From danny at TheBookiatrist.com  Sun Feb 20 17:47:57 2005
From: danny at TheBookiatrist.com (Danny Sheinis)
Date: Sun Feb 20 17:48:04 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] folders
Message-ID: <4218BF3D.2030009@TheBookiatrist.com>

How do I get Spambayes to move spam or unsure mail to their respective 
folders?

Windows XP Home Version 2002
Spambayes POP3 Proxy Version 1.0rc2 (June 2004)

Thanks for your help.

-- 
"If you can read this, thank a teacher; if you can read this in English, thank a veteran."

?Freedom of the press means nothing without a correlative freedom to read.?
Rep. Bernie Sanders (I-VT)

Danny Sheinis
danny@TheBookiatrist.com
708.366.6628 Office
www.TheBookiatrist.com


From badr_albanna at berkeley.edu  Sun Feb 20 20:34:55 2005
From: badr_albanna at berkeley.edu (Badr Albanna)
Date: Sun Feb 20 20:34:55 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] uninstall issues
Message-ID: 

Hi, 

 

I am a Windows XP Outlook 2003 user and I recently uninstalled your
software.  However, in the process of uninstalling SpamBayes another
(corrupted) copy of my IMAP mail account appeared in the Folder List.  My
old account works properly but this new account has the same name as my old
one and does not connect to any pst file so it is totally undeletable.  How
do I get rid of it!?! In the process of testing whether or not it was the
SpamBayes uninstall I did it again and it created YET ANOTHER mystery folder
which I can do absolutely nothing to (open it, close it, look at the
properties).  What do I do?  Any help would be EXTREMELY appreciated.  

 

Thanks,

Badr

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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Mon Feb 21 02:40:37 2005
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Mon Feb 21 02:40:45 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] RE: [spambayes-dev] multiple addresses
In-Reply-To: <4219334D.808@direcway.com>
Message-ID: <000a01c517b6$585aa770$0700000a@massey.ac.nz>

[Please note that the spambayes-dev list is intended for discussion about
the development of spambayes itself.  Questions about use, bug reports, and
so forth should be directed to the spambayes@python.org list].



> How do I set up spam bayes for two different email addresses. When I 
> installed the program it only showed one of the addresses.

Which SpamBayes application are you using?  I'm guessing that it's sb_server
(i.e. not the Outlook plug-in and not sb_imapfilter).  If that is not
correct, then this answer will not be what you are after, and please ask
again, without more information about what you need.

I suppose that it's not important to understand the distinction, but
SpamBayes doesn't care about your email address - it just needs to know
about the different POP3 mail servers that you connect to.  (The important
bit would be if you had two addresses, e.g. t-meyer@ihug.co.nz and
ta-meyer@ihug.co.nz, that connect to the same server, since you only need to
tell SpamBayes about it once).

In the main configuration page of SpamBayes, enter in all the POP3 servers
that you connect to in a comma separated list (like
"mail.example.com,pop.ihug.co.nz"), and then in the box underneath that asks
for ports, enter in the same number of unused ports (e.g. "110,111").

Then in your mail program, change the settings for the (e.g.)
mail.example.com address to connect to "localhost" on port 110 and (e.g.)
pop.ihug.co.nz to connect to "localhost" on port 111.  The port setting is
probably on a separate place in the configuration (if you tell us which mail
program you use, we could tell you where it will be), and will default to
110.

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies
(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.

From foster226 at comcast.net  Mon Feb 21 05:05:00 2005
From: foster226 at comcast.net (jim foster)
Date: Mon Feb 21 05:05:04 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] good program 
Message-ID: <000001c517ca$83cd2720$640fa8c0@jimjfqkyud3oo6>

Good program but it deletes all emails coming in with no regards to me,
just deletes it help. 

Use email jimdeeus@yahoo.com  because I don't trust it any more.

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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Mon Feb 21 06:07:42 2005
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Mon Feb 21 06:07:48 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] good program 
In-Reply-To: <000001c517ca$83cd2720$640fa8c0@jimjfqkyud3oo6>
Message-ID: <001201c517d3$4644a7d0$0700000a@massey.ac.nz>

> Good program but

One wonders what makes you think it's good if it's deleting all your mail
(not something I would classify as good...).

> it deletes all emails coming in
> with no regards to me, just deletes it help. 

Please see FAQ 3.12:



=Tony.Meyer

-- 
Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies
(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.

From daniel.williams at timeclockplus.com  Mon Feb 21 15:52:34 2005
From: daniel.williams at timeclockplus.com (Daniel)
Date: Mon Feb 21 15:52:56 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook '03?
Message-ID: 

I am operating in Windows XP, using Outlook 2003, and SpamBayes version 1.3.
Will SpamBayes work with Outlook '03?  It's not putting itself in Outlook
'03 as a toolbar?

 

Daniel

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From postmaster at mail.nxs.net  Mon Feb 21 16:16:33 2005
From: postmaster at mail.nxs.net (postmaster@mail.nxs.net)
Date: Mon Feb 21 16:16:34 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Virus Warning
Message-ID: <20050221151633.3C4421E4003@bag.python.org>

A virus was found in a message sent by this
account.

--- Scan information follows ---

Result: Virus Detected
Virus Name: W32.Netsky.P@mm
File Attachment: message.zip
Attachment Status: deleted

--- Original message information follows ---

From: spambayes@python.org
To: amco@nxs.net
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 08:49:51 -0600
Subject: Re: Mail Authentification
Received: from mx1a.mail.nxs.net ([198.144.167.162])
 by vs.mail.nxs.net (SAVSMTP 3.1.0.29) with SMTP id M2005022109323828362
 for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2005 09:32:38 -0500

From silver.lake at verizon.net  Mon Feb 21 22:16:07 2005
From: silver.lake at verizon.net (res0apg3)
Date: Mon Feb 21 22:02:04 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] DSO Exploit - cannot remove
Message-ID: 

Help - unable to clear DSO Exploit. Keeps coming back?

Any ideas?

Thanks - Stan
windows 98SE, SB most recent version.
USA
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From sole at soleassociates.com  Mon Feb 21 22:41:18 2005
From: sole at soleassociates.com (Kenneth Sole)
Date: Mon Feb 21 22:41:55 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] DSO Exploit - cannot remove
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: <000101c5185e$16092e20$6801a8c0@Kitchen>

Howdy,

 

No expert I, but.

 

You might check http://tinyurl.com/34mus for suggestions.

 

In any case, the problem would seem unrelated to SpamBayes.

 

All the best,

-- 

Kenneth

   Sole & Associates, Inc.
   Box 292
   Durham, New Hampshire 03824

 Voice: 603-659-3169
   Fax: 603-659-2248
 Email: sole@soleAssociates.com
   URL: http://www.soleAssociates.com
   PGP: http://wwwkeys.ch.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE17941C6

-----Original Message-----
From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On
Behalf Of res0apg3
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 4:16 PM
To: spambayes@python.org
Subject: [Spambayes] DSO Exploit - cannot remove

 

Help - unable to clear DSO Exploit. Keeps coming back?

 

Any ideas?

 

Thanks - Stan

windows 98SE, SB most recent version.

USA

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From emalave at millenniumbank.com  Tue Feb 22 15:00:57 2005
From: emalave at millenniumbank.com (Ellis Malave)
Date: Tue Feb 22 15:02:53 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Citrix / Terminal Server
Message-ID: 

How does 'spambayes' work on Citrix?  Do you know if this has ever been
tested in that environment?

Thanks,

Ellis

From robert at imagine.co.uk  Tue Feb 22 15:52:13 2005
From: robert at imagine.co.uk (Robert Neuschul)
Date: Tue Feb 22 15:52:15 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Citrix / Terminal Server
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

Ellis

> How does 'spambayes' work on Citrix?  Do you know if this has ever been
> tested in that environment?

You need to define your terms of reference a bit more clearly: 

are you asking about SB plugin for Outlook running under Citrix?

are you asking about the SB POP proxy running in the background for a 
domain and available as a Citrix app?

are you asking about the the SB SMTP proxy running in the background as a 
Citrix app?

And you also need to address the specific hosting environment: which host 
platform and which version of Citrix.


From pnoterman at comcast.net  Tue Feb 22 16:26:17 2005
From: pnoterman at comcast.net (pnoterman@comcast.net)
Date: Tue Feb 22 16:26:50 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] spam
Message-ID: <010601c518f2$e2889000$6401a8c0@tagore>

SpamBayes is working and being well trained.  But on Outlook Express there is no indication of "spam" so that I can use the Rules Wizard to move them to other folders or to automatically delete them.  How do I get the Outlook Express to indicate 'spam@spambayes.invalid'.  What have I done wrong?
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From: DrWEB-DAEMON at primary.alterhosting.com (DrWeb-DAEMON)
Date: Tue Feb 22 18:14:52 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Undelivered mail:  Re: Hi
Message-ID: <20050222171410.C7F4D52166@primary.alterhosting.com>

Dear User,

the message with following attributes has not been delivered,
because contains an infected object.

Sender = spambayes@python.org (may be forged)
Recipients = support@alterhosting.com, support.alterhosting.com@primary.alterhosting.com 
Subject =  Re: Hi
Message-ID =  <20050222171405.0B12C52166@primary.alterhosting.com>

Antivirus filter report:
--- Dr.Web report ---
Following virus(es) has been found:
infected with Win32.HLLM.Netsky.35328

Dr.Web detailed report:
drweb.tmp.fYjjJ0 - archive MAIL
drweb.tmp.fYjjJ0/[text:plain] - Ok
drweb.tmp.fYjjJ0/[text:plain] - Ok
drweb.tmp.fYjjJ0/summary2004.zip infected with Win32.HLLM.Netsky.35328

Dr.Web scanning statistic:
Infected : 1

--- Dr.Web report ---

The original message was stored in archive record named: 
drweb.quarantine.vI5W2a 
In order to receive the original message, please send request to 
, referring to the archive record 
name given above.

---
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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Wed Feb 23 05:12:19 2005
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Wed Feb 23 05:12:28 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] spam
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

> But on Outlook Express there is no indication of "spam"
> so that I can use the Rules Wizard to move them to other
> folders or to automatically delete them.  How do I get
> the Outlook Express to indicate 'spam@spambayes.invalid'.

Outlook Express is a very limited program.  Basically the only options are
to include the notation in either the recipient list ("To:") or the subject
(or both).  You need to tell SpamBayes to do this on the configuration page
("Notate To" and "Notate Subject" options - tick the boxes for the
notifications you want).

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies
(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.

From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Wed Feb 23 05:14:20 2005
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Wed Feb 23 05:14:27 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook '03?
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

> Will SpamBayes work with Outlook '03?

Yes.

> It's not putting itself in Outlook '03 as a toolbar?

Does the installation complete without any errors?  Do you have any spambaye
log files? (They are in the temp directory, probably 'C:\Documents and
Settings\{username}\Local Settings\Temp').

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies
(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.

From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Wed Feb 23 05:17:52 2005
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Wed Feb 23 05:17:59 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] folders
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

> How do I get Spambayes to move spam or unsure mail to their 
> respective folders?

You don't.  You get SpamBayes to mark the message with the classification,
and then get your mailer to move messages with that classification to the
folders.

I've guessing that you're using Thunderbird.  If so, then choose "Message
Filters" from the "Tools" menu, then click "New".  Choose "Customize" from
the first option, and put "X-Spambayes-Classification" as the header name.
Leave the second box as "contains" and put "spam" (or "unsure") in the third
one.  Then choose the action that you want (e.g. "move to folder").

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies
(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.

From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Wed Feb 23 05:30:50 2005
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Wed Feb 23 05:30:58 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Local admin rights
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

[Bob Coe]
> I'm not a Registry expert (Is anybody?), but I wonder if you 
> wouldn't lose the ability to register Spambayes for all users 
> of the computer, a capability that does exist currently. 

What I was planning on doing was leaving the register for all users code
exactly as it is.

[Ryan Malayter]
>> Of course, the spambayes program files and DLLs themselves 
>> would have to go into the %USERPROFILE%\Application Data directory, 
>> which is the only place a "standard user" can write on the machine.

[Bob Coe]
> If you must do this, at least put the files in the 
> "non-roaming" part of the profile, so the system won't waste 
> time and space copying them to the server.

I have no plans to change the default installation location.  If a user
can't write to C:\Program Files (or wherever) then they can change that to
somewhere they can write, or will just have to get someone to help them with
the install.

> More broadly, I think this whole line of discussion fails the 
> "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" test. Frankly, I think the 
> Spambayes installation process works just fine the way it is. 

I disagree.  ISTM that managing your mail is a user process, and that
installing a filter to help you do that isn't something that an
administrator should be required to do (unless a specific organisation has
rules about doing so, and then it's up to the individual to obey their own
organisation's policies).

> As a system manager, I should 
> have the ability to decide what software gets made available 
> to our users, and I see no good reason to make it easier for 
> an unsophisticated user to install and use software that we 
> haven't evaluated and don't support.

As a user, I should have the ability to decide what software I use, assuming
that it use of it doesn't go against any of the my organisation's policies,
and that I do not expect any support from the organisation for it.  I
certainly should not need to go to my system manager and wait weeks for the
extremely unlikely event of the system manager testing the software and
deciding to support it and install it for me.

I don't see why this is just for an unsophisticated user, rather than any
user without admin rights.

> Of course if the computer is yours, not your employer's, the 
> issue shouldn't arise: just give yourself administrator 
> privilege and have at it.

Some people prefer to run without admin rights, though (some, probably
misguided, sense of increased security), and if we don't actually need the
additional rights to do the requested action, why should we require them?

[Ryan Malayter]
> I agree [...] I don't think we should hack SB so it is easier
> for users to circumvent their organization's policies. 

My intent was/is to make it easier for people to install SpamBayes (and,
from a selfish POV, to reduce the number of messages coming to
spambayes@python.org/the sf bug trackers), not to help anyone circumvent
their organisation's policies.  To be honest, I don't care what the users
are doing with it - they're responsible for ensuring that they are behaving
correctly, not me, and it's up to the organisation to check that their own
people follow their own rules.

> In fact, I think providing an MSI package for SB so administrators
> can easily remotely deploy spambayes is a better idea. I have an
> organization-specific package that I use now; generalizing said package
> for any network may take some time, but I would be willing to do that
> if people think such a package would be useful.

There's an open feature request for this, I believe (although Inno, passed
command line flags, can do pretty much all of what was requested).  I'd be
happy to check the code in if it was submitted, and to include creation of a
MSI package in the build process (while I'm playing the release manager
role) assuming that it wasn't arduous and didn't require any additional
non-free software.

=Tony.Meyer 

From arne at evertsson.com  Wed Feb 23 10:13:38 2005
From: arne at evertsson.com (Arne Evertsson)
Date: Wed Feb 23 10:13:42 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] imap filter hangs in training
Message-ID: <200502231014953.SM02808@tsucm015dev>

I have a problem with the imap filter.

1. I run it: python sb_imapfilter.py -c -t -v -l 3 -P
2. It finds my existing hammie.db.
3. I provide the password.
4. Then it stops with the following message:

	Training
	   Training ham folder INBOX
	*

What am I doing wrong?

/Arne Evertsson

From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV  Wed Feb 23 15:14:08 2005
From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob)
Date: Wed Feb 23 15:14:24 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Local admin rights
Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5022C380@SPIKE.city>

> From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:31 PM
> To: Coe, Bob; 'Ryan Malayter'
> Cc: spambayes@python.org
> Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Local admin rights
> 
> 
> [Bob Coe]
> 
> > More broadly, I think this whole line of discussion fails the 
> > "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" test. Frankly, I think the 
> > Spambayes installation process works just fine the way it is. 
> 
> [Tony Meyer]
> 
> I disagree.  ISTM that managing your mail is a user process, and that
> installing a filter to help you do that isn't something that an
> administrator should be required to do (unless a specific organisation has
> rules about doing so, and then it's up to the individual to obey their own
> organisation's policies).
> 
> > As a system manager, I should 
> > have the ability to decide what software gets made available 
> > to our users, and I see no good reason to make it easier for 
> > an unsophisticated user to install and use software that we 
> > haven't evaluated and don't support.
> 
> As a user, I should have the ability to decide what software I use, assuming
> that it use of it doesn't go against any of the my organisation's policies,
> and that I do not expect any support from the organisation for it.  I
> certainly should not need to go to my system manager and wait weeks for the
> extremely unlikely event of the system manager testing the software and
> deciding to support it and install it for me.

You're a fine programmer, Tony; and if you worked in our shop, I'd almost certainly give you administrator privilege. But I sense that you've been in system development so long that you've forgotten how users think. Leaving it up to users to decide whether and how to obey the organization's policies is inconceivable in our environment. (And I suspect also in the average Spambayes-using environment; you've seen the quality of the questions that pour into this list.)

> I don't see why this is just for an unsophisticated user, rather than any
> user without admin rights.
> 
> > Of course if the computer is yours, not your employer's, the 
> > issue shouldn't arise: just give yourself administrator 
> > privilege and have at it.
> 
> Some people prefer to run without admin rights, though (some, probably
> misguided, sense of increased security), and if we don't actually need the
> additional rights to do the requested action, why should we require them?

It's wise to run without admin rights because it arguably helps to defend against viruses and spyware, especially when surfing the Web. But the user of any single-user computer should have an admin account to use for software and printer installations, etc. Installation is what's at issue here; no one is suggesting that admin rights should be required to *run* Spambayes.

Bob
From N.F.Brooks at exeter.ac.uk  Wed Feb 23 18:17:09 2005
From: N.F.Brooks at exeter.ac.uk (Neil Brooks)
Date: Wed Feb 23 18:17:11 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Supurious '>' in bodytext
Message-ID: <67D96FE09DB08219970FE62F@141SC1J.ex.ac.uk>

Hi,

if you have a message that has lines like:
>From now on this must stop.

The line is rewritten as:
> From now on this must stop.

That is to say, a '>' and a space is prefixed to any line that starts with 
'From'.

This appears to happen when the X-Spambayes-MailId: header is added to the 
message.

This is using sb_imapfilter 1.0.3 on Python 2.4 on an IMAP inbox.

I think the bug may be buried in the Python email module.

Neil
-- 
Neil Brooks
Small Systems Team Leader
IT Services
University of Exeter
Tel: +44 (0)1392 26 3923
From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV  Wed Feb 23 19:33:41 2005
From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob)
Date: Wed Feb 23 19:33:44 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Supurious '>' in bodytext
Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5022C381@SPIKE.city>

It must be a reflection of the old Unix "sendmail" convention, in which any line beginning with capital F was prepended with a caret to keep it from being confused with a "From" line (which would indicate the beginning of a new message).

Bob


> -----Original Message-----
> From: spambayes-bounces@python.org
> [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of Neil Brooks
> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 12:17 PM
> To: spambayes@python.org
> Subject: [Spambayes] Supurious '>' in bodytext
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> if you have a message that has lines like:
> >From now on this must stop.
> 
> The line is rewritten as:
> > From now on this must stop.
> 
> That is to say, a '>' and a space is prefixed to any line 
> that starts with 
> 'From'.
> 
> This appears to happen when the X-Spambayes-MailId: header is 
> added to the message.
> 
> This is using sb_imapfilter 1.0.3 on Python 2.4 on an IMAP inbox.
> 
> I think the bug may be buried in the Python email module.
> 
> Neil
From mikec at mikecauser.com  Wed Feb 23 20:40:00 2005
From: mikec at mikecauser.com (Mike Causer)
Date: Wed Feb 23 20:40:07 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Supurious '>' in bodytext
In-Reply-To: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5022C381@SPIKE.city>
References: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5022C381@SPIKE.city>
Message-ID: <20050223194000.3e6e375b.mikec@mikecauser.com>

On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 13:33:41 -0500 "Coe, Bob"  wrote:

> It must be a reflection of the old Unix "sendmail" convention, in
> which any line beginning with capital F was prepended with a caret to
> keep it from being confused with a "From" line (which would indicate
> the beginning of a new message).

It's actually not connected with the MTA in use, but is necessary if the
mail is ever stored in "mbox" format instead of "mdir" or a proprietary
encoding such as pst.  The MTA I use, Postfix, uses mbox for its
incoming storage, although my mailreader, Sylpheed, uses mdir once it's
received the mail.  This means that any receiving MTA which uses mbox
(certainly Sendmail, Postfix, Exim, etc) _must_ add the ">", and others
may add it for safety's sake.



Mike
-- 
Mike Causer                          Email - mailto:mikec@mikecauser.com
GPG KeyID 1C2DDA07                       WWW - http://www.mikecauser.com
Flood the fen again! - Wicken Fen enlargement - http://www.wicken.org.uk
From tsassone at pulseeng.com  Wed Feb 23 21:41:51 2005
From: tsassone at pulseeng.com (Sassone, Terry)
Date: Wed Feb 23 21:42:29 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Windows XP SP2
Message-ID: <844A4B22D725B940B9B3C26073D0C2F77F9E97@pebblebeach.pulseeng.com>

Have you heard of Spambayes being slow to move messages with Windows XP
SP2 installed?  When you highlight a message and click on delete as Spam
or recover from Spam it takes 10-15 seconds to move the message, where
it use to be instant.

Terry
:-)
From JJKent at avemarialaw.edu  Wed Feb 23 21:45:09 2005
From: JJKent at avemarialaw.edu (Kent, James)
Date: Wed Feb 23 21:45:24 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Windows XP SP2
Message-ID: <91EC78587248DA44A26C19F05245D6910171087B@lawmail2.avemarialaw.edu>

That thread has come around before.

I have turned off the windows firewall and the delays go away.  Can
anybody else confirm that it worked?

...Jim Kent, Network Administrator
Ave Maria School of Law
3475 Plymouth Road
Ann Arbor, Michigan 48105
jjkent@avemarialaw.edu




-----Original Message-----
From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]
On Behalf Of Sassone, Terry
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 3:42 PM
To: spambayes@python.org
Subject: [Spambayes] Windows XP SP2


Have you heard of Spambayes being slow to move messages with Windows XP
SP2 installed?  When you highlight a message and click on delete as Spam
or recover from Spam it takes 10-15 seconds to move the message, where
it use to be instant.

Terry
:-)
_______________________________________________
Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes
Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html
From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Thu Feb 24 01:18:58 2005
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Thu Feb 24 01:19:03 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] imap filter hangs in training
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

> I have a problem with the imap filter.
> 
> 1. I run it: python sb_imapfilter.py -c -t -v -l 3 -P
> 2. It finds my existing hammie.db.
> 3. I provide the password.
> 4. Then it stops with the following message:
> 
> 	Training
> 	   Training ham folder INBOX
> 	*
> 
> What am I doing wrong?

It's very strange that it just hangs rather than just crashing.  It you run
it with -i4 (python sb_imapfiler.py -c -t -v -l 3 -P -i4) what're the last
few command command/responses that get printed out before the hang?

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies
(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.

From tameyer at ihug.co.nz  Thu Feb 24 01:30:15 2005
From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer)
Date: Thu Feb 24 01:30:22 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Supurious '>' in bodytext
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Interestingly, the original message was displayed like this for me in
Outlook:

"""
if you have a message that has lines like:
>From now on this must stop.

The line is rewritten as:
> From now on this must stop.

That is to say, a '>' and a space is prefixed to any line that starts with 
'From'.
"""

IOW, there was a '>' inserted before the From somewhere along the line.

[Bob Coe]
>> It must be a reflection of the old Unix "sendmail" convention, in 
>> which any line beginning with capital F was prepended with 
>> a caret to keep it from being confused with a "From" line (which would 
>> indicate the beginning of a new message).

The Python email package is slightly smarter in that it looks for "From "
rather than just "F* ".  This happens in as_string() - it's mentioned in the
documentation and there's an example of how to use email.Generator with
mangle_from_=False which means that this won't happen.

[Mike Causer]
> It's actually not connected with the MTA in use, but is 
> necessary if the mail is ever stored in "mbox" format instead 
> of "mdir" or a proprietary encoding such as pst.  The MTA I 
> use, Postfix, uses mbox for its incoming storage, although my 
> mailreader, Sylpheed, uses mdir once it's received the mail.  
> This means that any receiving MTA which uses mbox (certainly 
> Sendmail, Postfix, Exim, etc) _must_ add the ">", and others 
> may add it for safety's sake.

So what do people think that imapfilter should do in this case?  It's a
fairly simple change from using as_string to the example code in the
documentation.  ISTM that if the mangling is necessary that the IMAP server
would do it (we wouldn't want to do this with something like sb_filter,
though).  However, I wouldn't want to break anything.

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies
(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.

From arne at evertsson.com  Thu Feb 24 09:55:00 2005
From: arne at evertsson.com (Arne Evertsson)
Date: Thu Feb 24 09:55:13 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] imap filter hangs in training
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: <200502240956656.SM00952@tsucm015dev>

Reads like this:

  50:28.67 < HBOM5 OK UID Completed
*  50:28.67 > HBOM6 UID FETCH 402002222 (FLAGS INTERNALDATE)
  50:28.92 < * 1 FETCH (FLAGS (\ANSWERED \SEEN) INTERNALDATE "5-Feb-2005
13:00:4
1 +0100" UID 402002222)
  50:28.92 < HBOM6 OK UID Completed
  50:28.92 > HBOM7 APPEND INBOX (\ANSWERED \SEEN) "5-Feb-2005 13:00:41
+0100" {3
155}

/Arne

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] 
Sent: den 24 februari 2005 01:19
To: 'Arne Evertsson'; spambayes@python.org
Subject: RE: [Spambayes] imap filter hangs in training

> I have a problem with the imap filter.
> 
> 1. I run it: python sb_imapfilter.py -c -t -v -l 3 -P
> 2. It finds my existing hammie.db.
> 3. I provide the password.
> 4. Then it stops with the following message:
> 
> 	Training
> 	   Training ham folder INBOX
> 	*
> 
> What am I doing wrong?

It's very strange that it just hangs rather than just crashing.  It you run
it with -i4 (python sb_imapfiler.py -c -t -v -l 3 -P -i4) what're the last
few command command/responses that get printed out before the hang?

=Tony.Meyer

-- 
Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies
(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.
http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this.


From pnoterman at comcast.net  Thu Feb 24 16:59:44 2005
From: pnoterman at comcast.net (pnoterman@comcast.net)
Date: Thu Feb 24 17:00:04 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Express
Message-ID: <012c01c51a89$e1133020$6401a8c0@tagore>

SpamBayes is working fine but I don't know how to link it to Outlook Express so I can automatically delete spam. 
Please help me as a fairly computer illiterate person.
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From fran at ocbor.com  Thu Feb 24 17:27:47 2005
From: fran at ocbor.com (fran)
Date: Thu Feb 24 17:55:50 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] oddly enough
Message-ID: 

I just installed your program yesterday, and it appears to be doing it?s
job, training going well, etc.  However, now for each message I receive of
?good? mail it kindly duplicates the message so I, in fact, receive two
duplicate messages.

How do I get rid of that?

Thanks,

Fran Boyle
Ocean City Board of REALTORS?
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From rnb at cecconi.org.uk  Thu Feb 24 22:44:48 2005
From: rnb at cecconi.org.uk (cecconi)
Date: Thu Feb 24 22:44:53 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes corruption
Message-ID: 

Hi,

I use spambayes very successfully at work and alas have now had to install
it at home due to a huge rise in pornmail.
I have istalled SB 1.0.3 on Outlook 2000 on W98se
It works fine until I shutdown and restart the PC the next day. Then Outlook
starts OK but the SB button on the toolbar is now a small blank square
without any meu items on it. If I shut down outlook and re-install SB, all
is OK again until the next re-boot. The SB.log file is empty. Have looked in
the FAQ and troubleshooting guide but nothing seems relevant.

Any ideas?


regards,

Enrico Cecconi
53 Punch Croft
New Ash Green 
Longfield
KENT DA3 8HR
tel : 01474 873640
fax: 0870 7062437


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Date: Thu Feb 24 22:45:39 2005
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From luis_moreno at cantv.net  Fri Feb 25 04:04:05 2005
From: luis_moreno at cantv.net (luis_moreno@cantv.net)
Date: Fri Feb 25 04:04:12 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy: I couldn't send e-mail whit
	Norton Antivirus 2005
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I am using SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 1.0.3 (January 2005) (binary),
with version 2.4 (#60, Nov 30 2004, 11:49:19) [MSC v.1310 32 bit
(Intel)] of Python; my operating system is Windows 5.1.2600.2 ().  I
have trained 323 ham and 278 spam.

The problem I am having is The problem I have is since I have
installed the new version of Norton System Work 2005 who is added a
new option of Norton Antivirus "Protección del Gusano de Internet" (In
English Worm Internet Protection, I Guess!)I think it works like some
kind of firewall, There is some times (the most of the times!) that I
couldn't donwload my e-mail, because the norton antivirus believe that
Spambayes is some kind of worm, this happens however i have configured
the exclusions (of course all kind of activities is allowed to
spambayes). Actually, I have to configure Norton Antivirus whitout the
Internet Worm Protection, in order to be able to download my e-mail.
¿Could you help me?
From postmaster at tywire.com  Sat Feb 26 20:37:26 2005
From: postmaster at tywire.com (postmaster@tywire.com)
Date: Sat Feb 26 20:37:35 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] VIRUS DETECTED IN MESSAGE: Mail Delivery (failure
 jthompson@tymail.com)
Message-ID: <20050226193734.AF2ED1E4005@bag.python.org>

A Virus has been detected in the message: Mail Delivery (failure jthompson@tymail.com)
From: spambayes@python.org
To: jthompson@tymail.com


Please scan your file attachments and try again.
From pnoterman at comcast.net  Sat Feb 26 22:16:29 2005
From: pnoterman at comcast.net (pnoterman@comcast.net)
Date: Sat Feb 26 22:16:32 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Express
Message-ID: <00c301c51c48$73a19700$6401a8c0@tagore>

I have spambayes up and running well.  I don't know how to connect it to Outlook Express so that what spambayes identifies as spam is automatically deleted.  Please help!
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From ac287 at city.ac.uk  Sat Feb 26 22:57:38 2005
From: ac287 at city.ac.uk (ac287@city.ac.uk)
Date: Sat Feb 26 23:00:51 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes
Message-ID: 

Hi

I?m currently doing a study, as part of my degree, to investigate whether 
diversity can be applied to spam filters to improve their effectiveness. I 
just had a few questions regarding SpamBayes.

Is it possible to pipe/redirect messages through spambayes one at a time 
using the DOS command line to classify messages? If so what would the 
command look like for a message named ?test.txt? (for example).

Also once the message has been piped through how can I then check whether 
it has been classified as spam/ham or unsure?

You can mail me on ac287@city.ac.uk

Many thanks

Atif

From Amir_Katz at bmc.com  Sun Feb 27 14:35:52 2005
From: Amir_Katz at bmc.com (Katz, Amir)
Date: Sun Feb 27 14:36:09 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Express
Message-ID: 

You need to configure SB to annotate the mails (usually the "To:" field), so
all spams will have "spam" or "unsure" are added to the list of addressees.
Next you add a rule in Outlook Express to operate on all messages that have
"spam" in the "To:".
 
However, I strongly suggest that you don't delete the suspected spam, but
rather move them to a dedicated folder. Every so often you look at the
messages there and make sure that all are really spam. Then delete them.
Even SB is not fool-proof and some legitimate messages can be identified as
spam.
 
Amir 
 

  _____  

From: pnoterman@comcast.net [mailto:pnoterman@comcast.net] 
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 23:16
To: spambayes@python.org
Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Express


I have spambayes up and running well.  I don't know how to connect it to
Outlook Express so that what spambayes identifies as spam is automatically
deleted.  Please help!
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From Amir_Katz at bmc.com  Sun Feb 27 14:44:30 2005
From: Amir_Katz at bmc.com (Katz, Amir)
Date: Sun Feb 27 14:44:42 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Question about the security of this mailing list
Message-ID: 

As we all know, spammers uses various techniques to harvest e-mail
addresses, especially from Usenet newsgroups and public forums. Since this
is a semi-private mailing list, I hope that spammers are not subscribe to
this list and collect the email addresses of anyone that posts. The question
is - is this mailing list archived anywhere that can be broken into?
 
Thanks,
 
Amir 

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From tim.peters at gmail.com  Sun Feb 27 20:26:03 2005
From: tim.peters at gmail.com (Tim Peters)
Date: Sun Feb 27 20:26:06 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Question about the security of this mailing list
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <1f7befae05022711267734eb08@mail.gmail.com>

[Katz, Amir]
> As we all know, spammers uses various techniques to harvest e-mail
> addresses, especially from Usenet newsgroups and public forums. Since this
> is a semi-private mailing list,

Nope, not at all.  As it says at the top of:

    http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/contact.html

    There are currently five mailing lists of interest. All lists are
public, and all
    are publicly archived. This is normal practice for open-source projects, and
    you should be aware that all email sent to one of these addresses will be
    visible to the world:

> I hope that spammers are not subscribe to this list

I'm certain that some do -- anyone can subscribe just as easily as,
e.g., you did.  But I expect they subscribe to learn how the filter
works, not to harvest addresses -- the response rate on spam sent to
subscribers to this list must be so close to 0% that it would cost
more than it brought back.  The purpose of spam is to make money for
the spammer; spammers don't care if they inconvenience millions of
non-buyers in the process, but irritating non-buyers isn't their goal
(to the contrary, email to non-buyers cuts profits).

> and collect the email addresses of anyone that posts. The question
> is - is this mailing list archived anywhere that can be broken into?

At the bottom of every message you get from this list, you'll see a
URL to the list info page:

> Spambayes@python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes

The archives for the mailing list are then one click away from there. 
Sender email addresses aren't directly scrapable from the archives,
but are easy to reconstruct mechanically.

This is how open source works:  everything we do here is public.  The
code, and the processes leading up to the code (including mailing list
messages), are freely available to everyone.

If you don't want a particular email address known to the world, then
you should never use if for anything except email to trustworthy
friends, relatives, and business associates, all of whom run on
machines behind hardware firewalls, and scrupulously protected against
spyware, trojans, and viruses.  You should certainly _expect_ that
email sent to a mailing will end up in all sorts of places, and even
if the mailing list says it's private (if there's any way for an email
to wind up in the inbox of someone you don't know and trust, then you
can have no idea what will happen to it from there).
From tdickenson at devmail.geminidataloggers.co.uk  Mon Feb 28 11:22:36 2005
From: tdickenson at devmail.geminidataloggers.co.uk (Toby Dickenson)
Date: Mon Feb 28 11:22:38 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <200502281022.36162.tdickenson@devmail.geminidataloggers.co.uk>

On Saturday 26 February 2005 21:57, ac287@city.ac.uk wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I?m currently doing a study, as part of my degree, to investigate whether 
> diversity can be applied to spam filters to improve their effectiveness. 

Spambayes-dev@python.org might be a better audience.

> I  just had a few questions regarding SpamBayes.
> 
> Is it possible to pipe/redirect messages through spambayes one at a time 
> using the DOS command line to classify messages? If so what would the 
> command look like for a message named ?test.txt? (for example).

Pipe it into sb_filter.py
For command line options, run "sb_filter -h" or read the source.

> Also once the message has been piped through how can I then check whether 
> it has been classified as spam/ham or unsure?

The message appears on stdout with a couple of extra headers

$ echo -e "From: noone\n\nHello world"|python sb_filter.py
From: noone
X-Spambayes-Classification: spam; 0.91
X-Spambayes-Evidence: '*H*': 0.12; '*S*': 0.93; 'to:none': 0.72; 'world': 
0.80;
        'message-id:invalid': 0.99

Hello world

-- 
Toby Dickenson
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From scott at thewhalens.com  Mon Feb 28 21:29:03 2005
From: scott at thewhalens.com (Scott Whalen)
Date: Mon Feb 28 21:29:11 2005
Subject: [Spambayes] Auto delete of Spam after X number of days or mark some
	how
Message-ID: <20050228202908.LGGU14646.lakecmmtao05.coxmail.com@D8MWS361>

Hello,
I have been using Qurb Spam filter, but my computer person recommended this
product, so I am trying it.
 
One thing that has changed between the 2 products that I liked with Qurb is,
once I reviewed the Spam folder, I did not have to delete it or show it as
read to have it identify to me which spam email I ended up reviewing the
last time.  This then allowed me to keep the old ones for awhile, because
sometimes I miss one I want to remove from Spam, so I can come back later to
check the old ones.
 
what I end up having to do with this is delete the ones I just looked at
because I can not remember where I left off the last time and the number
just grows of unread emails in the Spam folder.   Is there a way to do this
that I can not find?  Hopefully I have explained this clearly enough, but if
I have not please let me know.
 
___________________________________________
The finest compliment I can ever receive
is a referral from my friends or clients...
 
Sincerely,
Scott Whalen, Senior Loan Officer
Great Southwest Mortgage
1811 S. Alma School Road, #260
Mesa, AZ 85210
Cell 602.570.1629
Off   480.456.7883
fax  480.756.9963
 

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