From subu123 at fastmail.fm Wed Sep 1 08:23:26 2004 From: subu123 at fastmail.fm (Subramaniam (Subu)) Date: Wed Sep 1 08:23:29 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] New to Spambayes Message-ID: <1094019806.14385.203463732@webmail.messagingengine.com> Hi I'm new to spambayes - I've been using Outlook 2003 for quite some time. So I have a list of Junk mailer addresses(block senders) in Outlook. Should I transfer these to Spam bayes. - How ? - When I click on existing Spam (filtered by Outlook), and check spam % in spambayes I get spam levels of 95% etc. How to increase spam % to 100% ? - for any given mail ? - Is there an international spam, blocked list ? If so URL please. Even if this is only a recommended list, please give URL Very important : How to delete spam from the POP3 server ? to save bandwidth Thanks Subu From RMardo at ALJOMAIHBEV.com Wed Sep 1 09:27:44 2004 From: RMardo at ALJOMAIHBEV.com (Ferino Mardo) Date: Wed Sep 1 09:22:29 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] New to Spambayes Message-ID: Replies below > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces@python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Subramaniam (Subu) > Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 09:23 AM > To: spambayes@python.org > Subject: [Spambayes] New to Spambayes > > > > Hi > > I'm new to spambayes > > - I've been using Outlook 2003 for quite some time. So I have > a list of Junk mailer addresses(block senders) in Outlook. > Should I transfer these to Spam bayes. > > - How ? > You don't IMHO. If you want send them to me one by one from your Junk. My SPAMbaby needs more training. Whooooo! > - When I click on existing Spam (filtered by Outlook), and > check spam % in spambayes I get spam levels of 95% etc. How > to increase spam % to 100% ? - for any given mail ? > Again you don't IMHO. SPAMbayes gives those percentages based on some stats. > - Is there an international spam, blocked list ? If so URL > please. Even if this is only a recommended list, please give URL > > Very important : How to delete spam from the POP3 server ? to > save bandwidth > > Thanks > > Subu > > _______________________________________________ > Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > From Amir_Katz at bmc.com Wed Sep 1 09:34:05 2004 From: Amir_Katz at bmc.com (Katz, Amir) Date: Wed Sep 1 09:34:23 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] New to Spambayes Message-ID: Answers below (with >>) -----Original Message----- From: Subramaniam (Subu) [mailto:subu123@fastmail.fm] Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 09:23 To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] New to Spambayes Hi I'm new to spambayes - I've been using Outlook 2003 for quite some time. So I have a list of Junk mailer addresses(block senders) in Outlook. Should I transfer these to Spam bayes. - How ? >> You can't. SB does not support blacklists and white lists. See FAQ 6.6 (http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#why-don-t-you-add-whitelisting-bl acklisting-to-spambayes) >> You should however train SB on the mails from those spammers. - When I click on existing Spam (filtered by Outlook), and check spam % in spambayes I get spam levels of 95% etc. How to increase spam % to 100% ? - for any given mail ? >> Why? Just train SB on it - Is there an international spam, blocked list ? If so URL please. Even if this is only a recommended list, please give URL >> Spamhaus project is one place to look, I'm sure there are others. However, since the sophisticated spammers forge their from addresses, blacklists are pretty much useless these days. Very important : How to delete spam from the POP3 server ? to save bandwidth >> SB can't do that. I think you need POPFile for that. Check Sourceforge.net for other spam-fighting projects. Thanks Subu _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From DJackson at starite.com Wed Sep 1 14:45:25 2004 From: DJackson at starite.com (Douglas Jackson) Date: Wed Sep 1 14:39:16 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Removal from outlook and express Message-ID: <2232D816A85AD611873F0002A5E894CA0898B3E8@na1_mail_server.starite.com> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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FCheckFirstRunStatus failed reading machine value "17019"! ...forcing FirstRun Balloon to On. ...calling S+ import. ...starting SRS import. No OST configured. SRS import result: 00000001 ...deleting WAB4/UseOutlook because we're using MAPI. ...writing UUID to HKCU. ...setting Primary Client to Outlook. *** Ending First Run (09-02-2004 06:03:20) *** I sse that FCheckFirstRunStatus reports a failure. Does anyone know how to work around this, on my other laptop spambayes with the same version of outlook, Windows XP service pack 2 and spambayes runs fine. Thanks -- Mark From cocles at sbcglobal.net Thu Sep 2 13:40:31 2004 From: cocles at sbcglobal.net (AVS) Date: Thu Sep 2 13:40:16 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RFE 774978 Message-ID: <200409021140.i82BeDH9028166@pimout1-ext.prodigy.net> Please excuse me for emailing you guys directly. In regards to RFE 774978 "Hide envelope icon when only spam received". You site that this problem can not be fixed because "Outlook does not expose the hooks that are necessary to cleanly do this". My question is... Since you can not control outlook's systray notification system, why not give SpamBayes it's own independent systray notification system? Users could then download SpamBayes, turn off Outlook's notification system, and simply use the one integrated into the SpamBayes' add-in. Is this not possible? Thank you for your time, and I apologize again for emailing you directly. Andrew From kennypitt at hotmail.com Thu Sep 2 15:58:35 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Thu Sep 2 15:58:39 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes removal Message-ID: >From: Douglas Jackson >To: "'spambayes@python.org'" >Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes removal >Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 07:57:03 -0500 > >This is what I get I need to complete the uninstall. And get rid of this >how >do I do that. > >[snip message box bitmap] The error message indicates that the error occurred in HPBPRO.EXE. A quick Google search seems to indicate that this is related to an HP Scanner of some sort. Could you tell us what about this error message makes you think that it came from SpamBayes? P.S. For future reference, it is much better to just type the exact text from the message box into your e-mail instead of trying to include a screen capture. Some readers might not be able to view your image, and many others refuse to open any attachment from someone they don't recognize. -- Kenny Pitt From edpalmer at davidson.edu Thu Sep 2 17:57:36 2004 From: edpalmer at davidson.edu (Palmer, Ed) Date: Thu Sep 2 17:57:41 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Nervous, Apprehensive, and Clueless Message-ID: Hey, Folks, I have a major problem. SpamBayes had been moving my Inbox messages into Junk Email Suspects, where I'd then have an opportunity to "train it." Now it's still moving the messages out of my Inbox, but they're not in Junk Email Suspects or any other junk file. I tried deleting the SpanBayes Icon so I could go back to benchmark of not having it on my machine (then, perhaps if I'm brave enough, installing it again). The icon deleted but the toolbar is still there, and I fear it will still eat my Inbox, sending everything off to NeverNever Land. Thanks for any insights on how best to proceed. Right now I'm in a "world of hurt." Appreciatively, Ed ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Edward L. 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SpamBayes had been moving my Inbox messages > into Junk Email Suspects, where I'd then have an opportunity to > "train it." Now it's still moving the messages out of my Inbox, but > they're not in Junk Email Suspects or any other junk file. FAQ 3.12 should help you find them: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#some-of-my-mail-is-going-missing or http://tinyurl.com/5y3m5 > I tried > deleting the SpanBayes Icon so I could go back to benchmark of not > having it on my machine (then, perhaps if I'm brave enough, > installing it again). The icon deleted but the toolbar is still > there, and I fear it will still eat my Inbox, sending everything off > to NeverNever Land. What do you mean by "delete the SpamBayes Icon"? If you uninstalled it from Add/Remove Programs then SpamBayes is totally disabled and will not do anything to your Inbox. It is a known issue that the toolbar itself is not removed on an uninstall, but you can do that manually. You can read all about this in FAQ 3.16: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#how-do-i-uninstall-the-plug-in or http://tinyurl.com/3jn9e If you simply deleted the SpamBayes folder from your start menu then the SpamBayes add-in is probably still active. You can test this by deleting the toolbar as described in the above FAQ, then exiting and restarting Outlook. If the toolbar comes back then SpamBayes is still installed, and you'll need to go to Add/Remove Programs to uninstall it. -- Kenny Pitt From henno at japauto.ee Thu Sep 2 21:06:37 2004 From: henno at japauto.ee (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Henno_T=E4ht?=) Date: Thu Sep 2 21:08:13 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Hello Message-ID: Yes. Database and settings will be individual, per user. _____ From: DE FILLIPIS Franck [mailto:f.defillipis@akka.fr] Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 9:10 AM To: 'spambayes@python.org' Subject: [Spambayes] Hello Can we install SPAMBAYES on a Windows Server system with the mode ? Terminal Server Users ? ? 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I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling (1.0rc2), but the same thing happens: In COM Add-Ins, I can see Spambayes and I check it and hit OK, but it doesn't stay checked. Any guidance you could give me would be appreciated, because I don't want to give up on Spambayes. Ian Ian Calkins Copper State Consulting Group Phoenix, Arizona phone (602) 229-1010 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040902/dd0116c2/attachment.htm From tim.peters at gmail.com Fri Sep 3 05:44:26 2004 From: tim.peters at gmail.com (Tim Peters) Date: Fri Sep 3 05:44:29 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RFE 774978 In-Reply-To: <200409021140.i82BeDH9028166@pimout1-ext.prodigy.net> References: <200409021140.i82BeDH9028166@pimout1-ext.prodigy.net> Message-ID: <1f7befae04090220448f4762@mail.gmail.com> [AVS ] > Please excuse me for emailing you guys directly. Not at all -- this is what the spambayes list is *for*. Feel free to post here. > In regards to RFE 774978 "Hide envelope icon when only spam > received". > > You site that this problem can not be fixed because "Outlook does > not expose the hooks that are necessary to cleanly do this". > > My question is... Since you can not control outlook's systray > notification system, why not give SpamBayes it's own independent > systray notification system? > > Users could then download SpamBayes, turn off Outlook's notification > system,and simply use the one integrated into the SpamBayes' add- > in. > > Is this not possible? It probably is. Now who's going to do the work? That's how Open Source works. I'm not going to do the work, because I get so much email that the notification would *always* say "you have new mail". No notification system is of any conceivable use to me, so I have no motivation to work on one, and couldn't test one easily even if I wanted to. In the Open Source world, this is called "scratching your own itches" -- that's how Open Source software evolves. Someone wants an improvement, or new feature, enough to do the work of implementing it, and then contributes it back to the project. Or someone wants it enough to pay someone to implement it. Until one of those happens, it won't get done. You get the program for free, and the other side of that is that we have no revenue. This is a good thing , but it means nobody can tell anyone what to work on. What you get is what other people give. From kennypitt at hotmail.com Fri Sep 3 15:20:08 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Fri Sep 3 15:20:15 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] add-in doesn't stay checked In-Reply-To: <000001c49156$a1d4a860$0300a8c0@Ian> Message-ID: First, check if Outlook has disabled the add-in. Go to Help->About Microsoft Outlook and click on the Disabled Items button. If you find SpamBayes there then try to reenble it. If SpamBayes isn't listed in the disabled items, or if Outlook disables it again after you reenable it, then we'll need to see your logfiles to get a better idea of what might be wrong. The Troubleshooting Guide has instructions on how to find the logs. The normal place to view this would be from the Help->Troubleshooting Guide menu item under the SpamBayes drop-down. However, if the add-in isn't functioning then you probably won't be able to get to this menu item, so you can look for the file "troubleshooting.html" in your SpamBayes installation directory. -- Kenny Pitt _____ From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Ian Calkins Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 9:38 PM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] add-in doesn't stay checked I checked the FAQ and bug blog area and could not find an answer, so I'm trying emailing you directly. I had Spambayes (1.0b1) working great for months, then the computer froze and when I restarted it, I never could get it working again. I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling (1.0rc2), but the same thing happens: In COM Add-Ins, I can see Spambayes and I check it and hit OK, but it doesn't stay checked. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040903/9829b52b/attachment.htm From david.kirkup at gov.ab.ca Fri Sep 3 19:03:40 2004 From: david.kirkup at gov.ab.ca (David Kirkup) Date: Fri Sep 3 19:03:51 2004 Subject: [SpamBayes] Moving database location ... question Message-ID: <6DEEFD79C27F0A4F9090785AA7A08532040CC5B9@edm-goa-exch-11.goa.ds.gov.ab.ca> Thank-you for the information about the data directory. I have not been able to find information on how to change the training pattern and you tell me how to find "train on mistakes" or "nonedge training" options. Can you assist me with this? David Kirkup Antivirus LAN/Server Analyst Alberta Corporate Service Centre Client Services Team Phone: (780) 644-4769 Fax: (780) 427-8327 david.kirkup@gov.ab.ca -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2004 8:21 PM To: David Kirkup; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Moving database location ... question > I have noticed that the database gets very large. Note that this depends a lot on the training that you do. If you "train on everything" you'll end up with a much bigger database than "train on mistakes" or "nonedge training" (and the results will probably be not as good, either). > We use roaming profiles and would like to move the > database to a location in the profile that is designated > as non-roaming. Is this possible? Yes. Instructions can be found by doing SpamBayes->Help->About SpamBayes->Configuration Guide. They're down the bottom under "multiple configuration files". Basically, create a file called "default_configuration.ini" in either the directory SpamBayes was installed into, or the current data directory, and put in it: [General] data_directory=drive:\path\to\new\location =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. From pubcad at yahoo.fr Fri Sep 3 23:00:12 2004 From: pubcad at yahoo.fr (Formation Informatique) Date: Sat Sep 4 00:30:56 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] AutoCad et MsOffice Message-ID: <20040903223051.NYIB25796.tomts36-srv.bellnexxia.net@yahoo.fr> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040903/edea8d3e/attachment.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 7864 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040903/edea8d3e/attachment.gif From theseer at comcast.net Sat Sep 4 03:03:26 2004 From: theseer at comcast.net (THE SEER) Date: Sat Sep 4 03:03:24 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SPAMBAYES MANAGER DIALOG ??? Message-ID: <003b01c4921a$fcca2e10$1a8f6041@m63szde1vn50gy> 3.13 : I looked this up because I did it too,I deleted the unsure folder. You said to open the spambayes manager dialog than click the filtering tab. My problem is where do I find this spambayes manager . I have outlook express (S.B. version 0.6) can not find it nor do I know where to look for it (spambayes manager) (also I have win XP PRO.if that matters) Dose someone know where to look ? By the way SpamBayes works great keep up the great work thanks again for it all. Mike -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040903/63d0ce18/attachment.htm From thetasig at comcast.net Sat Sep 4 19:30:05 2004 From: thetasig at comcast.net (thetasig) Date: Sat Sep 4 19:29:06 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Windows Service Shuts Down Always Message-ID: <4139FB9D.1080006@comcast.net> Using 1.0rc2.exe and installing and then starting up the Windows Service under Windows XP Pro SP1 The first time it was installed it worked flawlessly. Later I ran the SpamBayes Tray Icon and then Exited from that. After that the Service had stopped. And when I try to start it the service starts and then abruptly stops almost immediately. I "removed" the service and reinstalled it with the same result - it stops after starting. Now I cannot get the Service to stay "started." I can, however, still run the SpamBayes Tray Icon as a workaround. Please let me know how to fix the Service problem. THanks! -=mark=- From dhls15759_2 at blueyonder.co.uk Sat Sep 4 21:17:50 2004 From: dhls15759_2 at blueyonder.co.uk (Dave Hall) Date: Sat Sep 4 21:17:45 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Delete the programme Message-ID: <000601c492b3$dee4bbb0$952d2b52@davehomepc> Hi I just tried to instal the programme but my firewall kicked in and stopped the full setup - I decided to uninstall the programme. I ran uninstall but there is still a file called SpamBayes in my programme files - I cannot delete these files I tried a system safe point and half the files are still there Can you help please I am on XP home with SP2 Dave Hall -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040904/fa8aed2c/attachment.html From overbored at overbored.net Sun Sep 5 21:08:25 2004 From: overbored at overbored.net (overbored) Date: Sun Sep 5 21:08:38 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Exceptions in email Message-ID: <413B6429.2020309@overbored.net> Hi, all of a sudden I'm getting messages that have the following X-Spambayes-Exception: Traceback (most recent call last): . File "sb_server.pyc", line 471, in onRetr . File "spambayes\message.pyc", line 247, in setPayload . File "email\Parser.pyc", line 245, in _parsebody .BoundaryError: multipart message with no defined boundary I googled for this and I found some related posts to spambayes-bugs dating back to Jan 2003. Has this been fixed at all? If not, is it safe to have my client classify messages with this exception header as spam? So far I've only noticed it in spam, but that's because they showed up in my inbox. I don't know if there's any ham exhibiting the same behavior. But if it's because of syntax that's very very extremely unlikely to come up in normal mail, then perhaps it's safe? Thanks in advance. From westiejock at ntlworld.com Sun Sep 5 21:18:57 2004 From: westiejock at ntlworld.com (westiejock) Date: Sun Sep 5 21:18:48 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] help Message-ID: <000801c4937d$319cef20$dca868d5@multivisionoem> Hi, I have downloaded spambayes 0.6 from a dvd, and I am having problems getting started. As a novice I'm not sure if I have configured it right. In the remote servers box I have entered pop.ntlworld.com and in the spambayes ports I have tried 110,8110 and 8111 but so far spambayes has not picked up my e-mail. I have not entered anything in the remote servers box, and I am not sure what to enter in the spambayes ports box the rest I have not changed what was already entered. I am using outlook express is this why spambayes is not picking up my mail or do I need to do anything else. Regards Lynn -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040905/84bb3970/attachment.htm From davidbu at got.net Tue Sep 7 07:04:12 2004 From: davidbu at got.net (David Butcher) Date: Tue Sep 7 07:04:16 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] New VERIO Spam Filter causes "leaks" Message-ID: <04090622041200.01214@www> Verio now marks incoming messages with [SPAM] in the subject line. I have trainind and trained, and messages with that "word" in the subject line keep coming through to my inbox instead of being handled as spam by spambayes. How can I convince spambayes that those messages are spam? Thanks From web-dept at consulnet.org Tue Sep 7 12:45:02 2004 From: web-dept at consulnet.org (Web Dept - Consulnet LTD) Date: Tue Sep 7 12:41:59 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] a problem with attach Message-ID: <006c01c494c7$bdb64ba0$0d2ac082@CESIT.POLITO.IT> i install the rc2 version on a w2k server .. but i've a problem ..in the storage directory the stinger antivirus tell me there are many body of virus ... it'possible don't cache the virus attach ?? and how make? thanks in advance ps sorry for my bad english ;-) davwolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040907/03e2f91e/attachment.html From Rich at RBarger.com Tue Sep 7 14:41:28 2004 From: Rich at RBarger.com (Richard B Barger ABC APR) Date: Tue Sep 7 14:41:42 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] New VERIO Spam Filter causes "leaks" References: <04090622041200.01214@www> Message-ID: <413DAC78.963496A9@RBarger.com> Filter first, David. That is, set up your first filter to intercept [SPAM] and dump it into your Spam folder. Don't rely on Spambayes to do it, although the program should do a better and better job through time. But if you trust what Verio is doing, just automatically grab their output and discard it, using your email client's filtering routines. Cheers! Rich Barger --- David Butcher wrote: > Verio now marks incoming messages with [SPAM] in the subject line. I have > trainind and trained, and messages with that "word" in the subject line keep > coming through to my inbox instead of being handled as spam by spambayes. How > can I convince spambayes that those messages are spam? > > Thanks From jliner at harris.com Tue Sep 7 15:56:27 2004 From: jliner at harris.com (Liner, John) Date: Tue Sep 7 15:56:35 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes stopped working Message-ID: <85FF18B4F608D6119F100002A5CE7B8909D0AB02@ROCMX1> First, let me congratulate you on a brilliant product. I've tried several different antispam products, both commercial and freeware. Nothing, and I mean none of them, work even half as well as spambayes. I'd be happy to make a donation to help ensure you keep updating your application. Now, if you could help me solve just one problem: spambayes has stopped working on all of my machines. No error messages, it appears per normal. It simply stopped working. I tried both version 1.02 and 1.09 and they simply seem to have shutdown. I am running XP, (home and pro), and Outlook. Previously, Spambayes worked like gangbusters. Is there a virus or something that is disabling spambayes? Have you had other instances of this problem? I even uninstalled and re-installed both versions several times. No go. any advice or hints will be most wlecome. meanwhile, please continue your great work in fighting spam. You guys seem to have the upper hand on it. I'd be willing to purchase your application if you decide to go commercial. It is a great application. John Liner. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040907/d3f48f7c/attachment.htm From kennypitt at hotmail.com Tue Sep 7 16:31:01 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Tue Sep 7 16:31:29 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SPAMBAYES MANAGER DIALOG ??? In-Reply-To: <003b01c4921a$fcca2e10$1a8f6041@m63szde1vn50gy> Message-ID: If you're using Outlook Express then you're reading the wrong section of the FAQ. Section 3 is only for the Outlook Plugin, which works only with the full version of Outlook 2000 or higher and does not apply to Outlook Express or other mail clients using sb_server. For Outlook Express, the spam and unsure folders are managed by the filtering rules that you set up in OE and not by SpamBayes. You can probably just create a new unsure folder with the same name. If that doesn't work, you probably just need to edit your OE rule for unsure messages and reselect the folder there. -- Kenny Pitt _____ From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of THE SEER Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 9:03 PM To: Spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] SPAMBAYES MANAGER DIALOG ??? 3.13 : I looked this up because I did it too,I deleted the unsure folder. You said to open the spambayes manager dialog than click the filtering tab. My problem is where do I find this spambayes manager . I have outlook express (S.B. version 0.6) can not find it nor do I know where to look for it (spambayes manager) (also I have win XP PRO.if that matters) Dose someone know where to look ? By the way SpamBayes works great keep up the great work thanks again for it all. Mike -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040907/fba7df5b/attachment.htm From web-dept at consulnet.org Tue Sep 7 16:40:46 2004 From: web-dept at consulnet.org (Web Dept - Consulnet LTD) Date: Tue Sep 7 17:07:37 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] a problem with attach References: <006c01c494c7$bdb64ba0$0d2ac082@CESIT.POLITO.IT> <413DBA97.B6000986@kimballpottery.com> Message-ID: <011001c494e8$a9c32ac0$0d2ac082@CESIT.POLITO.IT> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Kimball" To: "Web Dept - Consulnet LTD" Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 3:41 PM Subject: Re: [Spambayes] a problem with attach > SpamBayes isn't a virus checker. It won't catch viruses. I don't know > Stinger, but possibly you can set it up to run between your mailserver > and SpamBayes, or between SpamBayes and your mail client? > i 've norton av on clients , and i don't want use spambayes as a antivirus but i prefer have no attach in the spambayes cache directory on the server ( neither attach contain virus , or other attach..) ... and i don't set the program to make this! sometimes i run on the server a free standalone antivirus called stinger (http://vil.nai.com/vil/stinger/) that repair or erase virus ...and i think the isn't a good think for the spambayes db ... thank for the help davwolf From papaDoc at videotron.ca Tue Sep 7 17:25:07 2004 From: papaDoc at videotron.ca (papaDoc) Date: Tue Sep 7 17:25:12 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] a problem with attach In-Reply-To: <006c01c494c7$bdb64ba0$0d2ac082@CESIT.POLITO.IT> References: <006c01c494c7$bdb64ba0$0d2ac082@CESIT.POLITO.IT> Message-ID: <413DD2D3.3000101@videotron.ca> Hi, > i install the rc2 version on a w2k server .. but i've a problem ..in the > storage directory the stinger antivirus tell me there are many body of > virus ... I have the same "problem". What you can do is remove the cache directory from the list of directory to be scanned. Spambayes cache the email to be able to train on them later. (If you tell spambayes to train on those email). There should be no problem with having virus in this directory if you don't click/open/read with outlook or any other mail reader. > > it'possible don't cache the virus attach ?? yes but you won't be able to train on the new emails. > and how make? Look in the advance configuration page and check for the entry about number of days to cache the mail. papaDoc -- /"\ \ / X ASCII Ribbon Campaign / \ Against HTML Email From gail11 at mindspring.com Tue Sep 7 21:09:02 2004 From: gail11 at mindspring.com (gail koffman) Date: Tue Sep 7 21:09:05 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] seeking Spam Bayes users for Open Source for the Enterprise book Message-ID: <4680571.1094584142053.JavaMail.root@wamui05.slb.atl.earthlink.net> I'm seeking corporate IT users of Spam Bayes for potential case studies in the upcoming "Open Source for the Enterprise" book (published by O'Reilly). please contact me if you fit this description or if you could give me referrals. I'd like to find out how you use Spam Bayes and why you would recommend it for other IT managers. thank you very much! best regards, Gail Koffman 415-864-3431 From dmatt at ocss-va.org Tue Sep 7 23:11:03 2004 From: dmatt at ocss-va.org (Dave Matt) Date: Tue Sep 7 23:11:06 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] I Want My Spambayes! Message-ID: There I was, living the spam-free life and then I "upgraded" to Outlook 2003. Now I'm deluged with spam and I want my Spambayes back. Please help me. I hope there's something obvious that I've failed to do that someone will recognize. I downloaded version Spambayes 1.0rc2.exe and installed it. The toolbar appeared and I dragged a couple of hundred spams into the junk mail folder. However, when I tried to access the dropdown menu or when I try to "Delete As Spam", Outlook locks up and and I get, "Microsoft Office has encountered a problem and needs to close." Outlook closes and restarts. I am now getting 200-600 spams a day. I have done and checked the following things: Deleted the toolbar according to instructions and restarted Outlook. The toolbar comes back but nothing changes. Uninstalled and reinstalled the program several times. Checked to make sure that SpamBayes is shown and checked in Outlook's COM add-ins. It is there and checked. Checked to make sure that it is not disabled through Outlook's Help/About Outlook/Disabled Items button. It is not. Checked the log files. They seem to indicate that the snap-in is installed properly and functioning. There are four log files. Below is the text of Spambayes1.log. It is typical of the four. Loaded bayes database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\dmatt.000\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db' Loaded message database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\dmatt.000\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db' Bayes database initialized with 734 spam and 199 good messages SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0rc2 (June 2004) starting (with engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004)) on Windows 5.1.2600 (Service Pack 1) using Python 2.3.3 (#51, Feb 13 2004, 14:39:56) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Personal Folders/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Personal Folders/Inbox/Spam' Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer FAILED to add the toolbar item 'SpamBayesCommand.Manager' - (-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.', (0, None, None, None, 0, -2147467259), None) The above toolbar message is common - recreating the toolbar... Any ideas? Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040907/2d68bf56/attachment.html From kennypitt at hotmail.com Tue Sep 7 23:37:34 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Tue Sep 7 23:37:43 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] I Want My Spambayes! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sounds like you've eliminated all of the usual suspects, and there is no indication of any errors in the log info that you included. A couple of additional things to check might be is SpamBayes filtering the same folder that you are receiving messages into, and do you have any Outlook rules that might be moving the messages away before SpamBayes sees them? In addition to there not being any errors in your log, there is also no indication that SpamBayes detected the arrival of any mail. The Outlook error when you try to use one of the toolbar buttons is very strange. Does it happen consistently every time you click a button? -- Kenny Pitt _____ From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Dave Matt Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 5:11 PM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] I Want My Spambayes! There I was, living the spam-free life and then I "upgraded" to Outlook 2003. Now I'm deluged with spam and I want my Spambayes back. Please help me. I hope there's something obvious that I've failed to do that someone will recognize. I downloaded version Spambayes 1.0rc2.exe and installed it. The toolbar appeared and I dragged a couple of hundred spams into the junk mail folder. However, when I tried to access the dropdown menu or when I try to "Delete As Spam", Outlook locks up and and I get, "Microsoft Office has encountered a problem and needs to close." Outlook closes and restarts. I am now getting 200-600 spams a day. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I have trainind and trained, and messages with that "word" David> in the subject line keep coming through to my inbox instead of David> being handled as spam by spambayes. How can I convince spambayes David> that those messages are spam? Note that subject:SPAM is just a single clue to the classifier. There are other hammy tokens in the message that outweigh it. Spambayes uses a "preponderance of evidence" approach to classification. No single token will cause a message to be classified as either ham or spam in exclusion of other tokens in a message. How many spam and ham have you trained on total? Can you post a set of clues for one of these Verio-tagged messages? Are you sure you haven't made any mistakes in your training and accidentally trained some spam as ham? Skip From croakedexpects at cox.net Wed Sep 8 08:05:15 2004 From: croakedexpects at cox.net (Sheri Chan) Date: Wed Sep 8 08:30:10 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] WHERE |S SHE? Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040908/f50c6391/attachment.htm From Amir_Katz at bmc.com Wed Sep 8 08:41:52 2004 From: Amir_Katz at bmc.com (Katz, Amir) Date: Wed Sep 8 08:42:02 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] How can I correct a deleted email address Message-ID: First a correction - you couldn't block a friend's e-mail address - SpamBayes can't do that. What you did is tell SB that those mails were spam. To undo, select those messages in the Spam folder (assuming that you have not deleted them permanently)and click on the button 'recover from spam'. If you've deleted them, ask this friend to send some more e-mail and if SB marks them as spam, perform that procedure on them. -----Original Message----- From: MaryC2207@aol.com [mailto:MaryC2207@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 03:18 To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] How can I correct a deleted email address I accidently blocked receiving e-mail from a friend how can I correct this? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040908/39eff854/attachment-0001.html From Janet.Brush at astrazeneca.com Wed Sep 8 16:28:40 2004 From: Janet.Brush at astrazeneca.com (Brush, Janet) Date: Wed Sep 8 16:31:50 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] MY SPAM JUNK FILE FOLDER Message-ID: I NEED HELP! MY SPAM FILE FOLDER "JUNK FILE" IS IMBEDDED IN MY CALENDAR FOLDER. HOW DO I GET RID OF THE SPAM IN MY CALENDAR FOLDER? I ALREADY RECONFIGURED MY SPAM FILE, BUT STILL HAVE THE SPAM MESSAGES IN MY CALENDAR FOLDER. Janet C. Brush Administrative Coordinator Regulatory Affairs, Oncology Iressa Brand, Emerging Brands C2B-518B 302-886-1752 302-885-5140 (fax) janet.brush@astrazeneca.com From PKramer at solarishs.org Wed Sep 8 18:31:23 2004 From: PKramer at solarishs.org (Kramer, Phillip) Date: Wed Sep 8 18:31:28 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] bug - fixed report Message-ID: <3C419B6D9F69D811BBA2009027EE82A163C2CF@exchange3.solarishs.org> I had some with SpamBayers on a windows 2K outlook 2K machine WITH ZIP MAGIC 4. your trouble shouting guide lead me to here Addin doesn't load If you start Outlook but there was no error message, the SpamBayes toolbar items do not work and new messages have no Spam score or filtering applied, then the plugin has probably become disabled. * Check the log file. If a log file for this session exists, then see if it contains an error. If not, check the date and time of the log - it is probably a log from the last time it did work, so is no help to us. If a log does exist, please report a bug. * Check that Outlook shows the addin as enabled. Start Outlook, and select Tools->Options to display the main Options dialog. Select the tab labeled Other, then click on the Advanced button. Click on the COM Add-Ins button. If the SpamBayes addin is not listed, then SpamBayes should be reinstalled (Note that running regsvr32.exe outlook_addin.dll or outlook_addin_register.exe from the SpamBayes directory may also solve this problem). If the SpamBayes addin is listed but not checked, then simply check it and close the dialog. I then checked the box but it unchecked after closing and reopening. unlike outlook 2002/3/xp outlook 2k about does not have a disabled items button in the about dialog. So i was stuck. I unload and reloaded several times and kept getting tripped when the setup program tried to install the spambayes.zip file. on a hunch i disabled Zip Magic, un and reinstalled Spambayers and it worked. i was then able to turn zip magic back on and both work fine. hope this helps others. just for my egos sake let me know if you add it to your documentation phil From kennypitt at hotmail.com Wed Sep 8 19:48:20 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Wed Sep 8 19:48:28 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] bug - fixed report In-Reply-To: <3C419B6D9F69D811BBA2009027EE82A163C2CF@exchange3.solarishs.org> Message-ID: Kramer, Phillip wrote: > I had some with SpamBayers on a windows 2K outlook 2K machine WITH > ZIP MAGIC 4. > > on a hunch i > disabled Zip Magic, un and reinstalled Spambayers and it worked. i > was then able to turn zip magic back on and both work fine. Thanks for the report and confirmation of this issue. Incompatibilities with ZipMagic have been reported before, and should be fixed in the latest source. Future releases will use an extension other than .zip for the SpamBayes library file so that it will not be recognized by ZipMagic. See the following bug reports: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=941639&group_id=617 02&atid=498103 and http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=986353&group_id=617 02&atid=498103 You can subscribe to the spambayes-announce list to receive notifications when new versions of SpamBayes are available. http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes-announce -- Kenny Pitt From M.G.Faina at Thomson.com Thu Sep 9 19:34:16 2004 From: M.G.Faina at Thomson.com (Faina, Mihail) Date: Thu Sep 9 19:34:19 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 Junk Filter and SpamBayes Message-ID: Any restrictions that you have to be aware when installing SpamBayes for Outlook 2003? I installed SpamBayes with "Junk E-Mail" and "Junk Suspects" instead of "Spam" and "Possible Spam" and all my e-mail went straight into "Junk E-Mail" folder although my Junk Filter was set to "No Automatic Filtering". I have been told that I should uninstall SpamBayes and reinstalled with "Spam" and "Possible Spam" folders. It seems that is working. Anybody here had this experience? I just don't like the Outlook Junk Filter - not trainable, you can't select more than one message as "Not Junk", etc, etc. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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lista, envio e-mails, propaganda digital email, publicidade por e-mails, marketing digital, e-mail por regi?o, email por estados, divulga??o, emails por estados, segmentados, mala-direta emails, envio publicidade, campanhas, mala direta por emails, e-mail por estados, marketing por e- Visite agora: http://www.divulgamail.mx.gs mails, emails por estado, mala-direta e-mails, marketing digital e-mail, divulgar emails, emails regi?es, publicidade, email por regi?o, e-mails por regi?es, listas e-mail, divulga??o emails, mala-direta por e-mail, enviar e-mail, enviar email, divulga??o email, cidades, publicidade por e-mail, enviar, emails por regi?es, marketing digital por e-mail, email por cidade, campanhas email, marketing From g.janczuk at objectconsulting.com.au Fri Sep 10 04:41:59 2004 From: g.janczuk at objectconsulting.com.au (George Janczuk) Date: Fri Sep 10 04:44:06 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] When is the final NON RC version being released Message-ID: <11A60EF518EFD311962E0010B5092C170172C755@exchange.oopl.com.au> Hello. I am currently waiting for the final first 1.0 release to be released (I'm not a BETA/RC kind-a guy, so I wait for the 1.0 release version before loading a product). I am eagerly waiting this release. However, it seems that the release has not followed in the time frame indicated, in particular, the download page says: --- The purpose of this release is solely to shake out those last few bugs on the way to a final 1.0 release - assuming no problems are found, a 1.0 release will follow in a few days --- However, it is September 10 today, and the RC2 release was announced on June 26, so 76 days have passed and there's still no final 1.0 release! Have there been problems? Are you expecting a final 1.0 release any time soon? Just some sort of update on the status of the final 1.0 release will be appreciated. Just a note from someone who has been 'left hanging' for a while. GeorgeJ. ----------------------------------- George Janczuk Object Consulting PO Box 528, North Sydney NSW 2059 Phone : +61 2 9459-3300 Fax : +61 2 9459-3301 Email : g.janczuk@objectconsulting.com.au Web : http://www.objectconsulting.com.au ----------------------------------- "Life is too important to be taken seriously" - Oscar Wilde ----------------------------------- Tony Meyer ta-meyer at ihug.co.nz Sat Jun 26 03:13:01 EDT 2004 * Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] _____ The SpamBayes team is pleased to announce the latest release of SpamBayes - 1.0rc2. As is now usual, this is both a release of the source code and of an installation program for all Microsoft Windows users. The Windows installation program will install either the Outlook add-in (for Microsoft Outlook users), or the SpamBayes server program (for all other mail client users, including Microsoft Outlook Express). All Windows users (including existing users of the Outlook add-in) are encouraged to use the installation program. If you wish to use the source-code version, you will also need to install Python - see README.txt in the source tree for more information. This release fixes a number of reasonably minor bugs in the last release; however, we still highly recommend that existing users upgrade. For a detailed description of everything (well, everything we remember) that has changed since the last release, you can view our WHAT_IS_NEW.txt file, either online, or in the source distribution. Get it via the 'Download' page at http://www.spambayes.org/download.html Enjoy the new release and your spam-free mailbox :-) Thanks to everyone involved in this release, particularly, and as usual, Mark Hammond for putting most of this release together! Tony. (on behalf of the SpamBayes team) --- What is SpamBayes? --- The SpamBayes project is working on developing a Bayesian (of sorts) anti-spam filter (in Python), initially based on the work of Paul Graham. The major difference between this and other, similar projects is the emphasis on testing newer approaches to scoring messages. The project includes a number of different applications, all using the same core code, ranging from a plug-in for Microsoft Outlook, to a POP3 proxy, to various command-line tools. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040910/80a1961a/attachment.htm From voomp at textrix.co.uk Fri Sep 10 13:22:17 2004 From: voomp at textrix.co.uk (voomp) Date: Fri Sep 10 13:22:20 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] mini-spams In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Several weeks ago, Tony Meyer wrote: >Yes, these 'mini-spams' or 'micro-spams' will be the toughest for SpamBayes >to work with, because there isn't much information - for the most part, just >the headers. >We are looking into ways to better deal with these (although for many the >headers and whatever body there is does provide enough clues). The >'use-bigrams' option might help somewhat (it considers pairs of words as >well as individual words), as might some of the other options that are off >by default. >(Turning on these options in Outlook is a somewhat difficult process. You >have to open up the 'default_bayes_customize.ini' file in the SpamBayes data >directory (or create it if there isn't one) and add the appropriate options. >For example, you'd add >[Classifier] >x-use_bigrams:True >for the bigrams option. I followed his suggestion, and since then not a single spam has gone undetected. The false-alarm rate is still near-negligible, even though the suspect spam level is set to 2% and the certain spam level to 5%. Best regards, Doug Richardson From TBartus at velocitus.net Fri Sep 10 16:17:55 2004 From: TBartus at velocitus.net (Tom Bartus) Date: Fri Sep 10 16:17:58 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Message-ID: <7A7C80C3D491F64B92842C7DB961139D02EA63BF@exchange.rmci.net> Best Regards, Tom Bartus Regional Account Manager Velocitus / Idacomm Ph: 208-388-6815 Fax: 208-336-4506 tbartus@velocitus.net tbartus@idacomm.net (an Idacorp Company) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040910/96aee087/attachment.htm From cis at vplast.com Fri Sep 10 18:00:38 2004 From: cis at vplast.com (CIS) Date: Fri Sep 10 18:13:08 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Exchange 2003 w/ Outlook 2003 Message-ID: Good Morning, I am in the process of implementing an Exchange 2003 system using Outlook 2003 as the interface. I have installed the Spambayes software on the Outlook Clients. The spam filter in Outlook 2003 is not being used. What I have noticed is that mail sent internally (exchange user to exchange user within the system) will automatically get filtered as SPAM. Some users have taken upon themselves to train Spambayes to correct this, however I will eventually be dealing with 200+ users and many will not be happy with the idea of having to constantly check the Junk Email folder for internal email. Is there a way to rectify this? The object of the game is that Spambayes needs to recognize all internal mail a good mail Please help. Thank you John Zaragoza jzaragoza@customis.com CIS@vplast.com From kennypitt at hotmail.com Fri Sep 10 20:15:31 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Fri Sep 10 20:15:57 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Exchange 2003 w/ Outlook 2003 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: CIS wrote: > I am in the process of implementing an Exchange 2003 system using > Outlook 2003 as the interface. I have installed the Spambayes > software on the Outlook Clients. The spam filter in Outlook 2003 is > not being used. What I have noticed is that mail sent internally > (exchange user to exchange user within the system) will automatically > get filtered as SPAM. > > Some users have taken upon themselves to train Spambayes to correct > this, however I will eventually be dealing with 200+ users and many > will not be happy with the idea of having to constantly check the > Junk Email folder for internal email. I assume from this statement that training SpamBayes did, in fact, correct the problem? > Is there a way to rectify this? The object of the game is that > Spambayes needs to recognize all internal mail a good mail There is no direct way to do what you're asking. Forcing all intermal mail to be treated as good is about the same thing as doing whitelisting, which we don't support. See FAQ 6.6: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#why-don-t-you-add-whitelisting-bla cklisting-to-spambayes or http://tinyurl.com/34w5r The first step in dealing with this problem is to figure out why SpamBayes thinks these messages are spam. The "object of the game" for SpamBayes is to identify mail as ham or spam based on exactly what you've told it, so it won't identify anything as spam unless it sees stuff in the message that you've told it is spammy. Use the "Show spam clues" command to see why SpamBayes thinks the message is spam. If you don't understand the clues, you can always send a copy to this list and we can help you figure it out. My company recently switched from a Unix-based POP3 mail server to Exchange Server. Because the header information on an internal Exchange message is very different than typical SMTP header info, SpamBayes listed a lot of internal messages as Unsure right after the switch. However, I don't remember that it ever went so far as to call any of the messages spam. -- Kenny Pitt From JConlon at SIKORSKY.COM Fri Sep 10 20:38:43 2004 From: JConlon at SIKORSKY.COM (Conlon, Joseph F SIK) Date: Fri Sep 10 20:38:52 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] outlook hanging on startup, spambayes processes nothing Message-ID: I live in a W2K corporate environment managed by CSC. They periodically and without notice upgrade Outlook. A couple weeks ago I had an indication that an update had been performed and it seemed thereafter that when Outllok starts I get an hourglass for several minutes (maybe as much as five). Also, SPAMBAYES never seems to catch anything anymore. It is enabled in the manager. I saw the following in one of the log files.... FAILED to add the toolbar item 'SpamBayesCommand.Manager' - (-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.', (0, None, None, None, 0, -2147467259), None) The above toolbar message is common - recreating the toolbar... SpamBayes - Disconnecting from Outlook SpamBayes has processed zero messages Addin terminating: 1 COM client and 2 COM servers exist. Perhaps the disconnecting message occurs at shutdown. At any rate, it's not working. What else can I check? Is there more info I can provide? Thank you, Joe Conlon From M.G.Faina at Thomson.com Fri Sep 10 20:49:03 2004 From: M.G.Faina at Thomson.com (Faina, Mihail) Date: Fri Sep 10 20:49:07 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Exchange 2003 w/ Outlook 2003 Message-ID: Do you need to disable Microsoft Junk Filter in order for SpamBayes to work in Outlook 2003? When I installed SpamBayes for Outlook 2003 it showed "Junk E-mail" and "Junk Suspects" as default folders and it seems to me that this is a problem. I reinstalled SpamBayes with "Spam" and "Possible Spam" and set the MS Junk filter to "No Automatic filtering" and SpamBayes start working for me! FYI - you can't add your internal mail to the MS Junk Filter "Safe" list either. Mihail -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Kenny Pitt Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 2:16 PM To: 'CIS'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Exchange 2003 w/ Outlook 2003 CIS wrote: > I am in the process of implementing an Exchange 2003 system using > Outlook 2003 as the interface. I have installed the Spambayes > software on the Outlook Clients. The spam filter in Outlook 2003 is > not being used. What I have noticed is that mail sent internally > (exchange user to exchange user within the system) will automatically > get filtered as SPAM. > > Some users have taken upon themselves to train Spambayes to correct > this, however I will eventually be dealing with 200+ users and many > will not be happy with the idea of having to constantly check the > Junk Email folder for internal email. I assume from this statement that training SpamBayes did, in fact, correct the problem? > Is there a way to rectify this? The object of the game is that > Spambayes needs to recognize all internal mail a good mail There is no direct way to do what you're asking. Forcing all intermal mail to be treated as good is about the same thing as doing whitelisting, which we don't support. See FAQ 6.6: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#why-don-t-you-add-whitelisting-bla cklisting-to-spambayes or http://tinyurl.com/34w5r The first step in dealing with this problem is to figure out why SpamBayes thinks these messages are spam. The "object of the game" for SpamBayes is to identify mail as ham or spam based on exactly what you've told it, so it won't identify anything as spam unless it sees stuff in the message that you've told it is spammy. Use the "Show spam clues" command to see why SpamBayes thinks the message is spam. If you don't understand the clues, you can always send a copy to this list and we can help you figure it out. My company recently switched from a Unix-based POP3 mail server to Exchange Server. Because the header information on an internal Exchange message is very different than typical SMTP header info, SpamBayes listed a lot of internal messages as Unsure right after the switch. However, I don't remember that it ever went so far as to call any of the messages spam. -- Kenny Pitt _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From samnicholls at appintec.com Fri Sep 10 22:11:01 2004 From: samnicholls at appintec.com (samnicholls@appintec.com) Date: Fri Sep 10 22:11:10 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] BoundaryError: multipart message with no defined boundary Message-ID: <00d401c49772$4bb1dcb0$c900a8c0@dell750> I've sent an email on this subject a couple of times, and it's never appeared in the mailing list. Perhaps its because of the attachment. So this time, no attachment, here are the complete headers inline. It looks like the email is causing a program exception, which means it is not being classified as spam. Over the past couple of weeks I've been receiving emails in my ham folder which contain the following headers: Received: from mx01.backupmx.com(mx01.backupdns.com[199.242.242.195]) by (valid server name removed); Fri, 10 Sep 2004 10:30:43 -0700 Received: from 24-205-94-249.pas-eres.charterpipeline.net (24-205-94-249.pas-eres.charterpipeline.net [24.205.94.249]) by mx01.backupmx.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with SMTP id i8AHUYTA086945 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2004 11:30:37 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from martins_sheridan@comcast.net) Received: from horsemen.mail.bluerocketonline.com by 199.242.242.195; Sat, 11 Sep 2004 05:29:02 -0400 To: <(valid email address removed)> From: doris knapp Reply-To: Subject: We utilize only licensed and certified U.S. physicians and pharmacies. VHVSRQ Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 01:31:02 -0800 Message-ID: <038291867987.z2NFCMK26916@underclassmen.mail.bluerocketonline.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] X-Spambayes-Exception: Traceback (most recent call last): . File "sb_server.pyc", line 471, in onRetr . File "spambayes\message.pyc", line 247, in setPayload . File "email\Parser.pyc", line 245, in _parsebody .BoundaryError: multipart message with no defined boundary ----093550281564509569 Sam Nicholls Alameda CA USA ----- Original Message ----- From: samnicholls@appintec.com To: Spambayes Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 1:30 PM Subject: BoundaryError: multipart message with no defined boundary Over the past couple of weeks I've been receiving emails in my ham folder which contain the following headers: X-Spambayes-Exception: Traceback (most recent call last): . File "sb_server.pyc", line 471, in onRetr . File "spambayes\message.pyc", line 247, in setPayload . File "email\Parser.pyc", line 245, in _parsebody .BoundaryError: multipart message with no defined boundary Running W2K, Outlook Express, SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 1.0rc2. An example spam email is attached. Sam Nicholls -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040910/401ac3d2/attachment.html From kennypitt at hotmail.com Fri Sep 10 22:55:53 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Fri Sep 10 22:56:01 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Exchange 2003 w/ Outlook 2003 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Faina, Mihail wrote: > Do you need to disable Microsoft Junk Filter in order for SpamBayes > to work in Outlook 2003? When I installed SpamBayes for Outlook 2003 > it showed "Junk E-mail" and "Junk Suspects" as default folders and it > seems to me that this is a problem. You shouldn't need to disable the filter, no. "Junk E-mail" is the recommended destination folder because it allows you to take advantage of the extended context menu items on this folder in Outlook 2003 such as Empty "Junk E-mail Folder". I've been running for quite some time with SpamBayes sending spam to that folder and have never had a problem. I've tried it both with and without the Outlook filter enabled, and it made no difference except that Outlook would detect and move some messages before SpamBayes got a chance to process them. > I reinstalled SpamBayes with > "Spam" and "Possible Spam" and set the MS Junk filter to "No > Automatic filtering" and SpamBayes start working for me! Before you reconfigured SpamBayes and disabled the Outlook filter, is it possible that it was actually the Outlook filter that was moving your messages to the Junk E-mail folder and not SpamBayes? -- Kenny Pitt From kennypitt at hotmail.com Fri Sep 10 23:05:48 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Fri Sep 10 23:05:56 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] outlook hanging on startup, spambayes processes nothing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Conlon, Joseph F SIK wrote: > I saw the following in one of the log > files.... > > > FAILED to add the toolbar item 'SpamBayesCommand.Manager' - > (-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.', (0, None, None, None, 0, > -2147467259), None) The above toolbar message is common - recreating > the toolbar... > SpamBayes - Disconnecting from Outlook > SpamBayes has processed zero messages > Addin terminating: 1 COM client and 2 COM servers exist. > > > Perhaps the disconnecting message occurs at shutdown. At any rate, > it's not working. What else can I check? Is there more info I can > provide? The FAILED message, as it says, is common, and is nothing to worry about. I get it on my system every time I start Outlook. The disconnectin message is also normal, and as you surmised it does occur at shutdown. Could you provide the complete logfiles so that we can look for other things that might be going wrong? -- Kenny Pitt From snightingale at ico.viva.org Sat Sep 11 19:39:01 2004 From: snightingale at ico.viva.org (MailScanner) Date: Sat Sep 11 19:35:17 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Warning: E-mail viruses detected Message-ID: <200409111739.i8BHd1o10864@revelation.ico.viva.org> Our virus detector has just been triggered by a message you sent:- To: Subject: Mail Delivery (failure klamprecht@viva.org) Date: Sat Sep 11 18:39:01 2004 Any infected parts of the message have not been delivered. This message is simply to warn you that your computer system may have a virus present and should be checked. The virus detector said this about the message: Report: >>> Virus 'W32/Netsky-P' found in file ./i8BHctr10839/message.scr Windows Screensavers often hide viruses in email in message.scr -- MailScanner Email Virus Scanner www.mailscanner.info From corn1128 at buckeye-express.com Sat Sep 11 22:45:28 2004 From: corn1128 at buckeye-express.com (Corryn Smith) Date: Sat Sep 11 22:45:47 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] help with the percentage view Message-ID: I remember when I first installed SpamBayes there was a way to view the percentage of spam in messages. I don't remember how to do this, and I can't find an easy link on your site to it. I know the instructions where on your site, but I can't find them. Thanks, Mike -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The last thing I need to do is to actually run the training program. sb_upload.py looks like it ought to be the right thing, but I'm slightly puzzled by the code. When I run it all it appears to do is dump the message on stdout. It sends the message to the server (I've sniffed the packets), and drops the message into my unknown cache, but I can't work out how to make it actually train on the message. Is it possible? What is sb_upload.py really for? -- Graham P.S. Whilst poking around I noticed that the docstring says that it's for uploading "to a web browser" (i.e. it should say "server") and that the -n option doesn't work (easily fixed by guarding the sys.stdout.write call with "if not null:"). From customercare.ap at tatatel.co.in Mon Sep 13 07:51:05 2004 From: customercare.ap at tatatel.co.in (customercare.ap@tatatel.co.in) Date: Mon Sep 13 07:45:36 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Failure Message-ID: <200409130545.i8D5jRg26575@uusnwa0n.utc.com> ------------------ Virus Warning Message (on uusnwa0n) ------------------ Found virus WORM_NETSKY.P in file document.txt .exe (in message_spambayes.zip) The uncleanable file is deleted. --------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- Secure Mail System Beta Test. -------------- next part -------------- ------------------ Virus Warning Message (on uusnwa0n) ------------------ message_spambayes.zip is removed from here because it contains a virus. --------------------------------------------------------- From support at gfi.com Mon Sep 13 11:41:30 2004 From: support at gfi.com (support@gfi.com) Date: Mon Sep 13 11:45:42 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: Mail Delivery (failure support@gfi.com) [33827:85378] Message-ID: <41456B66.00180E.00916@dmz> Hello, Thank you for your email. Your request has been received by GFI's Technical Support Group and has been assigned the tracking number listed in the subject. Depending on your time zone, we will be able to give you a same-day reply or, at the very latest, reply the next morning. Our support working hours are from 9.00am until 11.30pm (23:30), CET time zone. Important: Registration is required to receive support! You can register your product at http://www.gfi.com/pages/regfrm.htm. Evaluating users have 30 days of free support. GFI requires all end user customers to be registered. This data is used to be able to provide 3 months free support. Registration also enables us to send important security bulletins & information about service packs. Furthermore, the registration data is necessary should we need to send customers an updated serial key. In order to expedite the resolution of your problem or question, please ensure that you send us the troubleshooter files. These can be generated from the Troubleshooter that you can find in the program group. Please zip them up and send them to us. Be sure to include a detailed description of the problem. You can find answers to many commonly asked questions in our Knowledge Base http://kbase.gfi.com. You might also wish to check out our user-to-user support message board at http://forums.gfi.com. Most technical issues arise because during installation, the installation instructions in the manual have not been observed. Please follow the installation instructions in the manual. You can download the correct manuals from our website at these locations: GFI FAXmaker for Exchange/SMTP 12: http://www.gfi.com/faxmaker/fax12manual.zip GFI FAXmaker for Exchange/SMTP 12 (client manual): http://www.gfi.com/faxmaker/fax12usermanual.pdf GFI FAXmaker for Exchange 10: http://www.gfi.com/fex/fex10manual.pdf GFI FAXmaker for Exchange 10 (client manual): http://www.gfi.com/fex/fex10usermanual.pdf GFI FAXmaker for Networks/SMTP 11: http://www.gfi.com/ffn/ffn11manual.pdf GFI FAXmaker for Networks/SMTP 11 (client manual): http://www.gfi.com/ffn/ffn11usermanual.pdf GFI MailEssentials for Exchange/SMTP 10: http://www.gfi.com/mes/me10manual.pdf GFI MailSecurity for Exchange/SMTP 8: http://www.gfi.com/mailsecurity/msec8manual.pdf GFI DownloadSecurity for ISA Server 6: http://www.gfi.com/dsec/dsec6manual.pdf GFI Network Server Monitor 5: http://www.gfi.com/nsm/nsm5manual.pdf GFI LANguard Security Event Log Monitor 5: http://www.gfi.com/lanselm/lanselm5manual.pdf GFI LANguard Network Security Scanner 5: http://www.gfi.com/lannetscan/lanscan5manual.pdf GFI LANguard Portable Storage Control 2: http://www.gfi.com/lanpsc/lanpsc2manual.pdf GFI LANguard System Integrity Monitor 3.0: http://www.gfi.com/lansim/lansim3manual.pdf GFI WebMonitor for ISA server 2.0: http://www.gfi.com/webmon/wembon2manual.pdf Thank you for your patience. The GFI support team http://www.gfi.com/ From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Mon Sep 13 13:50:26 2004 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Mon Sep 13 13:50:30 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] When is the final NON RC version being released Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5002C84587@SPIKE.city> The RC2 release is more reliable than most 3rd-party software is at any stage of its life cycle. IMO, it's silly not to use it. (It's not my place to say you're being silly; but if the shoe fits, wear it.) The fact that it's arguably just as silly for the developers to keep stalling like this is beside the point. I'm not much of a Beta/RC guy either. For example, I wouldn't dream of using a beta version of a Microsoft operating system. But the risk you'd run by using the current version of Spambayes is negligible. Bob -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of George Janczuk Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 10:42 PM To: 'spambayes@python.org' Subject: [Spambayes] When is the final NON RC version being released Hello. I am currently waiting for the final first 1.0 release to be released (I'm not a BETA/RC kind-a guy, so I wait for the 1.0 release version before loading a product). I am eagerly waiting this release. However, it seems that the release has not followed in the time frame indicated, in particular, the download page says: --- The purpose of this release is solely to shake out those last few bugs on the way to a final 1.0 release - assuming no problems are found, a 1.0 release will follow in a few days --- However, it is September 10 today, and the RC2 release was announced on June 26, so 76 days have passed and there's still no final 1.0 release! Have there been problems? Are you expecting a final 1.0 release any time soon? Just some sort of update on the status of the final 1.0 release will be appreciated. Just a note from someone who has been 'left hanging' for a while. GeorgeJ. ----------------------------------- George Janczuk Object Consulting PO Box 528, North Sydney NSW 2059 Phone : +61 2 9459-3300 Fax : +61 2 9459-3301 Email : g.janczuk@objectconsulting.com.au Web : http://www.objectconsulting.com.au ----------------------------------- "Life is too important to be taken seriously" - Oscar Wilde ----------------------------------- Tony Meyer ta-meyer at ihug.co.nz Sat Jun 26 03:13:01 EDT 2004 * Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] _____ The SpamBayes team is pleased to announce the latest release of SpamBayes - 1.0rc2. As is now usual, this is both a release of the source code and of an installation program for all Microsoft Windows users. The Windows installation program will install either the Outlook add-in (for Microsoft Outlook users), or the SpamBayes server program (for all other mail client users, including Microsoft Outlook Express). All Windows users (including existing users of the Outlook add-in) are encouraged to use the installation program. If you wish to use the source-code version, you will also need to install Python - see README.txt in the source tree for more information. This release fixes a number of reasonably minor bugs in the last release; however, we still highly recommend that existing users upgrade. For a detailed description of everything (well, everything we remember) that has changed since the last release, you can view our WHAT_IS_NEW.txt file, either online, or in the source distribution. Get it via the 'Download' page at http://www.spambayes.org/download.html Enjoy the new release and your spam-free mailbox :-) Thanks to everyone involved in this release, particularly, and as usual, Mark Hammond for putting most of this release together! Tony. (on behalf of the SpamBayes team) --- What is SpamBayes? --- The SpamBayes project is working on developing a Bayesian (of sorts) anti-spam filter (in Python), initially based on the work of Paul Graham. The major difference between this and other, similar projects is the emphasis on testing newer approaches to scoring messages. The project includes a number of different applications, all using the same core code, ranging from a plug-in for Microsoft Outlook, to a POP3 proxy, to various command-line tools. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040913/fb7748e3/attachment.htm From wsy at merl.com Mon Sep 13 14:35:30 2004 From: wsy at merl.com (Bill Yerazunis) Date: Mon Sep 13 14:35:47 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] When is the final NON RC version being released In-Reply-To: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5002C84587@SPIKE.city> (rcoe@CambridgeMA.GOV) References: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5002C84587@SPIKE.city> Message-ID: <200409131235.i8DCZUG00514@localhost.localdomain> Also, remember that spam-filtering is a moving target; this distorts the concept of the Yourdon spec-code-test-release cycle by gauranteeing that any such software will be way out of date by the time it hits the street. So, spamfighting systems really need to think in terms of _continuous_ improvement, moving through all stages of the SCTR cycle simultaneously. Note that antivirus systems already do this - most good antivirus software updates itself weekly at the very least. ----- This is also why CRM114 no longer ships with a version number, but rather with a release-date, and releases move from "Bleeding-edge" to "Cutting Edge" to "Stable" based on time vs. bug reports. Trying to do the -RC thing was just too painful with the moving target problems. -Bill Yerazunis From B-Morgan at concentric.net Mon Sep 13 15:11:54 2004 From: B-Morgan at concentric.net (Brad Morgan) Date: Mon Sep 13 15:11:55 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] When is the final NON RC version being released In-Reply-To: <200409131235.i8DCZUG00514@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <006501c49993$3e0195b0$0400a8c0@bradmorgan> > > Also, remember that spam-filtering is a moving target; this distorts > the concept of the Yourdon spec-code-test-release cycle by > gauranteeing that any such software will be way out of date by the > time it hits the street. > > So, spamfighting systems really need to think in terms of _continuous_ > improvement, moving through all stages of the SCTR cycle simultaneously. > > Note that antivirus systems already do this - most good antivirus software > updates itself weekly at the very least. > > ----- > > This is also why CRM114 no longer ships with a version number, but rather > with a release-date, and releases move from "Bleeding-edge" to "Cutting > Edge" to "Stable" based on time vs. bug reports. Trying to do the -RC > thing was just too painful with the moving target problems. > > -Bill Yerazunis > Bill, You argument would make more sense if there had been any kind of release in the last 76 days. Other than changing the version number, RC2 should be declared V1.0 as is. We can debate what future versions should or should not be called afterwards. Regards, Brad Morgan From M.G.Faina at Thomson.com Mon Sep 13 15:12:43 2004 From: M.G.Faina at Thomson.com (Faina, Mihail) Date: Mon Sep 13 15:12:58 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Exchange 2003 w/ Outlook 2003 Message-ID: Quite possible that Outlook filter was moving EVERYTHING from my Inbox to "Junk E-Mail" folder. I still have no clues why this happened. -----Original Message----- From: Kenny Pitt [mailto:kennypitt@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 4:56 PM To: 'Faina, Mihail'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Exchange 2003 w/ Outlook 2003 Faina, Mihail wrote: > Do you need to disable Microsoft Junk Filter in order for SpamBayes > to work in Outlook 2003? When I installed SpamBayes for Outlook 2003 > it showed "Junk E-mail" and "Junk Suspects" as default folders and it > seems to me that this is a problem. You shouldn't need to disable the filter, no. "Junk E-mail" is the recommended destination folder because it allows you to take advantage of the extended context menu items on this folder in Outlook 2003 such as Empty "Junk E-mail Folder". I've been running for quite some time with SpamBayes sending spam to that folder and have never had a problem. I've tried it both with and without the Outlook filter enabled, and it made no difference except that Outlook would detect and move some messages before SpamBayes got a chance to process them. > I reinstalled SpamBayes with > "Spam" and "Possible Spam" and set the MS Junk filter to "No > Automatic filtering" and SpamBayes start working for me! Before you reconfigured SpamBayes and disabled the Outlook filter, is it possible that it was actually the Outlook filter that was moving your messages to the Junk E-mail folder and not SpamBayes? -- Kenny Pitt From skip at pobox.com Mon Sep 13 15:28:04 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Mon Sep 13 15:28:10 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] When is the final NON RC version being released In-Reply-To: <006501c49993$3e0195b0$0400a8c0@bradmorgan> References: <200409131235.i8DCZUG00514@localhost.localdomain> <006501c49993$3e0195b0$0400a8c0@bradmorgan> Message-ID: <16709.41060.660187.710025@montanaro.dyndns.org> Brad> You argument would make more sense if there had been any kind of Brad> release in the last 76 days. Brad> Other than changing the version number, RC2 should be declared Brad> V1.0 as is. If you have some time, perhaps you can contribute a little. I suspect the main barrier is lack of time by the people who can build the Windows side of the distribution. Skip From M.G.Faina at Thomson.com Mon Sep 13 15:34:47 2004 From: M.G.Faina at Thomson.com (Faina, Mihail) Date: Mon Sep 13 15:34:52 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] System Administrator message Message-ID: Can't select this e-mail as "Deleted as Spam". The message is: "No filterable mail items are selected". I start getting a lot of these in the last week. Can't view the message headers either. Anybody has any ideas? Thanks, mihail From: System Administrator To : my Name Subject: Undeliverable: TIME to REFILL Your Prescription for PA1N MEDS . forceful Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject: TIME to REFILL Your Prescription for PA1N MEDS . forceful Sent: 9/10/2004 5:48 PM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: MFERRARO@CREATIVESOLUTIONS.COM on 9/10/2004 5:54 PM The recipient name is not recognized The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=us;a= ;p=creative solutio;l=DEXMAIL020409102154RZCJQ848 MSEXCH:IMS:Creative Solutions:CS-DEXTER:DEXMAIL02 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040913/f88a2ebd/attachment.htm From kennypitt at hotmail.com Mon Sep 13 16:51:16 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Mon Sep 13 16:51:24 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] help with the percentage view In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Can't tell for sure, but it sounds like you may be talking about the clues info. Just look for the command "Show spam clues for current message" in the SpamBayes drop-down menu on the toolbar. If you haven't used the command in a while, Outlook may be hiding it. Look for the little double-arrow at the bottom of the menu and hover your mouse over that to expand the menu to show all commands. -- Kenny Pitt _____ From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Corryn Smith Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 4:45 PM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] help with the percentage view I remember when I first installed SpamBayes there was a way to view the percentage of spam in messages. I don't remember how to do this, and I can't find an easy link on your site to it. I know the instructions where on your site, but I can't find them. Thanks, Mike -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Look for the little double-arrow at the bottom of the menu and hover your mouse over that to expand the menu to show all commands. -- Kenny Pitt _____ From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Corryn Smith Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 4:45 PM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] help with the percentage view I remember when I first installed SpamBayes there was a way to view the percentage of spam in messages. I don't remember how to do this, and I can't find an easy link on your site to it. I know the instructions where on your site, but I can't find them. Thanks, Mike -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040913/37dfa472/attachment.html From benjamin_mueller at web.de Mon Sep 13 17:45:01 2004 From: benjamin_mueller at web.de (benjamin mueller) Date: Mon Sep 13 17:45:05 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] sb_tray and outgoing connection Message-ID: <4145C07D.6090509@web.de> Hello, can somebody explain me why sb_tray.exe makes a outgoing connection to a domain contained in a spammail when i hit the train button for this message? thanks benjamin -- From kennypitt at hotmail.com Mon Sep 13 18:53:35 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Mon Sep 13 18:53:45 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] sb_tray and outgoing connection In-Reply-To: <4145C07D.6090509@web.de> Message-ID: benjamin mueller wrote: > can somebody explain me why sb_tray.exe makes a outgoing connection > to a domain contained in a spammail when i hit the train button for > this message? Do you have the "x-slurp_urls" option enabled? I can't think of any other case where SpamBayes should try to do anything with the e-mail content besides parse it into tokens. -- Kenny Pitt From SSchafe3 at UTNet.UToledo.Edu Mon Sep 13 19:16:47 2004 From: SSchafe3 at UTNet.UToledo.Edu (Schafer, Sharon L.) Date: Mon Sep 13 19:17:50 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Help filter Message-ID: Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 2945 bytes Desc: utLogo3.gif Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040913/8ffe8dc1/attachment.gif From Allen.Windhorn at LSUSA.com Mon Sep 13 21:07:30 2004 From: Allen.Windhorn at LSUSA.com (Windhorn, Allen, E. [LS/MKT]) Date: Mon Sep 13 21:06:09 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Spambayes stopped working Message-ID: On Tue Sep 7 15:56:27, Liner, John wrote: > ... spambayes has stopped working on all of my machines. > No error messages, it appears per normal. It simply stopped > working. I tried both version 1.02 and 1.09 and they simply > seem to have shutdown. > > I am running XP, (home and pro), and Outlook. Previously, > Spambayes worked like gangbusters. > > Is there a virus or something that is disabling spambayes? > Have you had other instances of this problem? I even > uninstalled and re-installed both versions several times. > No go. I have a similar problem, which may be related. On my machine, Outlook hangs for about 5 minutes with an hourglass symbol, then comes up normally, but Spambayes automatic filtering does not start. However, I can filter manually, and if I wait a couple of hours, the automatic filtering starts working again. The log file contains: ------------------------------------------ Warning: option experimental_ham_spam_imbalance_adjustment in section Classifier is deprecated Loaded bayes database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\windhoae\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db' Loaded message database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\windhoae\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db' Bayes database initialized with 1219 spam and 1049 good messages SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0rc2 (June 2004) starting (with engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004)) on Windows 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 4) using Python 2.3.3 (#51, Feb 13 2004, 14:39:56) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] NOTE: Skipping folder for this session - temporarily unavailable NOTE: Skipping folder for this session - temporarily unavailable NOTE: Skipping folder for this session - temporarily unavailable NOTE: Skipping folder for this session - temporarily unavailable FAILED to add the toolbar item 'SpamBayesCommand.Manager' - (-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.', (0, None, 'Member not found.', None, 0, -2147467259), None) The above toolbar message is common - recreating the toolbar... ... (Here it pauses for several hours, then suddenly starts working) ... Saving configuration -> C:\Documents and Settings\windhoae\Application Data\SpamBayes\Allen E Windhorn.ini Folder 'Mailbox - Windhorn, Allen, E. [LS/MKT]/Inbox' already has field 'Spam' SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - Windhorn, Allen, E. [LS/MKT]/Inbox' Folder 'Mailbox - Windhorn, Allen, E. [LS/MKT]/Spam' already has field 'Spam' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Mailbox - Windhorn, Allen, E. [LS/MKT]/Spam' Folder 'Mailbox - Windhorn, Allen, E. [LS/MKT]/Suspects' already has field 'Spam' New message timer started - id=18275, delay=1500 The timer with id=18275 fired Moved message 'Cialis,Viagra,Xanax,Valium at LOW price! No prescription needed!' to folder 'Mailbox - Windhorn, Allen, E. [LS/MKT]/Spam' ... (a lot more of the same thing) ... New message timer started - id=17360, delay=1500 The timer with id=17360 fired Moved message 'WE SHIIP WORLDWIDE ORIGINAL SOFTWARES AT CHEAP foot afternoon certainly ' to folder 'Mailbox - Windhorn, Allen, E. [LS/MKT]/Spam' Message 'WE SHIIP WORLDWIDE ORIGINAL SOFTWARES AT CHEAP foot afternoon certainly ' in 'Mailbox - Windhorn, Allen, E. [LS/MKT]/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' New message timer started - id=17358, delay=500 The timer with id=17358 fired The new message timer found no new items, so is stopping -------------------------------------------------------- A couple of clues which may be helpful: I recently started getting "mailbox full" messages from the sysadmin for no apparent reason, and a password box keeps popping up for "Personal Folders" when I go to the "training" tab on the Manager dialog. Other possibilities: could a Service Pack be messing up the works? My Outlook says Outlook 2000, SR-1. Regards, Allen -- Allen Windhorn, P.E. (MN), Sr. Principal Engineer Kato Engineering (507) 345-2782 FAX (507) 345-2805 P.O. Box 8447, N. Mankato, MN 56002 Allen.Windhorn@LSUSA.com or a.windhorn@ieee.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040913/a332474a/attachment.html From gtwood at worldpath.net Tue Sep 14 00:42:31 2004 From: gtwood at worldpath.net (Gale Wood) Date: Tue Sep 14 00:42:33 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] New to spambayes Message-ID: <007b01c499e2$f7a104c0$c1aca78e@gtwood> HI, I am new to the product and I am having trouble setting up. am using WinME with outlook express. I downloaded the correct version adn installed per instructions than I transfered some spam into the spam folder waited a couple of days and transfered some more. I am still waiting for this thing to work. I loaded localhost as instructed Loaded POP3 as instructed. What is meant by mbox or dbx file? Do I have to rename file extensions? In find message should I leave the setting as SpamBayesID or switch to Message headers? Also I find the instructions somewhat confusing. I can find my way around a computer but I found the instructions quite techie. They could be a set up for the non-tech inclined without much trouble-just a thought . Cheers Gale From gtwood at worldpath.net Tue Sep 14 00:45:59 2004 From: gtwood at worldpath.net (Gale Wood) Date: Tue Sep 14 00:46:01 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] spam on spambayes Message-ID: <000501c499e3$732ef660$c1aca78e@gtwood> From: "Galen Huang" To: spambayes@python.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Sep 2004 02:01:54.0229 (UTC) FILETIME=[79E70650:01C4986C] Date: 11 Sep 2004 21:01:54 -0500 Subject: [Spambayes] ADD 2+ 1NCHES TO Y0UR PENlIS! X-BeenThere: spambayes@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Found this in my inbox........thought someone would like to know! Cheers From Mari-C at myrealbox.com Tue Sep 14 04:56:53 2004 From: Mari-C at myrealbox.com (Mari-C) Date: Tue Sep 14 04:56:55 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] False Positives Message-ID: Spambayes was doing very well until recently when it started to send to the Spam Email about 1/4 of the email from an email list. I thought that this was something easily correctable and as soon as I noticed it, I started clicking on the "this is not spam" menu each time I noticed the false-P listed in the Spam Email folder. It used to identify all the email lists well OS: Windows XP SP2 SpamBayes version: 1.0rc2 I am also trying to remove my CS2K/Inbox as I hardly ever receive any email there and when I do, 100% is SPAM free. I can't find a way. I have re-set configuration, and clicked on "filter messages". Log files attached. Mari-C -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). 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I can't think of any other > case where SpamBayes should try to do anything with the e-mail content > besides parse it into tokens. Well, thank you Kenny. Thus do I understand this function correctly, if the e-mail could not be classified exactly than spambayes is watching the website if there are any links in the e-mail? Regards Benjamin -- From uuuj2xl2bha.2048 at tkmsftngp05 Tue Sep 14 07:18:57 2004 From: uuuj2xl2bha.2048 at tkmsftngp05 (uuuj2xl2bha.2048@tkmsftngp05) Date: Tue Sep 14 07:13:27 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Mail Authentication Message-ID: <200409140513.i8E5DH201107@uusnwa0n.utc.com> ------------------ Virus Warning Message (on uusnwa0n) ------------------ Found virus WORM_NETSKY.P in file document.txt .exe (in document.zip) The uncleanable file is deleted. --------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- Protected message is attached. ++++ Attachment: No Virus found ++++ Norton AntiVirus - www.symantec.de -------------- next part -------------- ------------------ Virus Warning Message (on uusnwa0n) ------------------ document.zip is removed from here because it contains a virus. --------------------------------------------------------- From johnt at amileasing.com Tue Sep 14 14:33:11 2004 From: johnt at amileasing.com (Tsombakos, John) Date: Tue Sep 14 14:36:36 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2000 locks up filtering email Message-ID: <98385AF6669BD511B69800508BB34FEE0572941D@mail.amileasing.com> Hello, I have Spambays running in Outlook 2000, and just about every morning when I come in to work, Spambays has locked up Outlooki. I have to force terminate and restart to get it going. I'm connected to the corporate Exchange server so have a Mailbox Inbox and I have a set of personal folders that is set as the delivery location. All email is transfered from my Mailbox Inbox to my Personal folders Inbox. I also have a set of Inbox rules that further filter my emails (mailing lists, etc.). But almost every morning, Spambays has locked up Outlook. I have the filter timers on; I've tried different settings, but it still locks up. I scanned through the mailing list archive, but didn't see any reference to this problem in the last few months. Is anyone else using the same or similar configuration and has the magical settings? I love spambays, as I get around 150-200 junk emails per day (and have been keeping track for almost a year of the amount I've received - as of this morning I'm up to almost 38000 spam emails!) Thanks, John T. PS. I've looked in the log files and I do not see anything that would indicate an error. From kennypitt at hotmail.com Tue Sep 14 15:46:33 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Tue Sep 14 15:46:40 2004 Subject: what is x-slurp_urls doing (was:Re: [Spambayes] sb_tray and outgoing connection) In-Reply-To: <41467CEF.7030108@web.de> Message-ID: benjamin_mueller@web.de wrote: > Kenny Pitt wrote: > >> Do you have the "x-slurp_urls" option enabled? I can't think of any >> other case where SpamBayes should try to do anything with the e-mail >> content besides parse it into tokens. > > Well, thank you Kenny. > > Thus do I understand this function correctly, if the e-mail could not > be classified exactly than spambayes is watching the website if there > are any links in the e-mail? Exactly. If SpamBayes is not sure about a message based strictly on the content of the message, then it will look for URLs in the message. If it finds one then it will retrieve the content at that URL and add those tokens to the information that it uses to classify the message. The "x-" at the beginning of the option name indicates that this is an experimental option. It is disabled by default, and I haven't heard a lot of reports about whether or not it has been helpful. The content at the other end of a spammer's URL seems like it would be very useful in indicating the spamminess of the message, but it also has its risks. Following a link in a spam message often indicates to the spammer that the e-mail address is valid and that there was some "interest" in the content, so could easily result in even more spam being received. -- Kenny Pitt From markm at owensfinancial.com Tue Sep 14 18:07:34 2004 From: markm at owensfinancial.com (Mark McLaren) Date: Tue Sep 14 18:16:06 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] XP Service Pack 2? Message-ID: <001901c49a74$f2614000$6701a8c0@McLaren> To Whom It May Concern: Please let me know if SpamBayes is compatible with the Microsoft Windows XP Home Service Pack 2 update. I greatly value your software, and don't want to compromise it's effectiveness by installing Bill Gates' latest. If compatibility with SP2 requires that I purchase or update a SpamBayes more current version, please let me know where that will be available. Thanks in advance for your response. Please forgive me if this information is displayed somewhere on your FAQ or other help resources, but I couldn't find it. Mark McLaren OWENS FINANCIAL GROUP 11975 El Camino Real, Suite 203 San Diego, California 92130 P (858) 350-4001 x 1 F (858) 350-4002 markm@owensfinancial.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040914/f9857ee0/attachment.htm From skip at pobox.com Tue Sep 14 18:55:46 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Tue Sep 14 18:55:51 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] XP Service Pack 2? In-Reply-To: <001901c49a74$f2614000$6701a8c0@McLaren> References: <001901c49a74$f2614000$6701a8c0@McLaren> Message-ID: <16711.8850.52141.235725@montanaro.dyndns.org> Mark> Please let me know if SpamBayes is compatible with the Microsoft Mark> Windows XP Home Service Pack 2 update. Several SB developers use WinXP, so I suspect we'd have heard about it if there was a problem. Why not try it on a test machine and report back? -- Skip Montanaro Got spam? http://www.spambayes.org/ skip@pobox.com From kennypitt at hotmail.com Tue Sep 14 21:07:07 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Tue Sep 14 21:07:13 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] XP Service Pack 2? In-Reply-To: <16711.8850.52141.235725@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: Skip Montanaro wrote: > Mark> Please let me know if SpamBayes is compatible with the Microsoft > Mark> Windows XP Home Service Pack 2 update. > > Several SB developers use WinXP, so I suspect we'd have heard about > it if there was a problem. Why not try it on a test machine and > report back? I'm running with XP Service Pack 2 and have had no problems. If you're using the Outlook add-in then you shouldn't see any difference at all because Outlook handles all network communications. If you're using the POP3 proxy version then you'll need to unblock sb_tray, sb_server, and/or sb_service depending on which variation you are running. SP2 will prompt you when you first start SpamBayes, so you'll know write away and can just select "unblock" when asked. -- Kenny Pitt From markm at owensfinancial.com Wed Sep 15 01:04:50 2004 From: markm at owensfinancial.com (Mark McLaren) Date: Wed Sep 15 01:20:31 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] XP Service Pack 2? Message-ID: <003601c49aaf$3d342b80$6701a8c0@McLaren> Skip: I will do that... although we are holding off installing SP2 until our ACT! consultant gives us the green light for using the XP update with the latest ACT1 upgrade. We will let you know when we do the upgrade if any issues arise. Thanks for your response. Mark McLaren -----Original Message----- From: "Kenny Pitt" Sent: 9/14/2004 12:07 PM To: "skip@pobox.com" ; "markm@owensfinancial.com" Cc: "spambayes@python.org" ; "Amanda J. Strang" Subject: RE: [Spambayes] XP Service Pack 2? Skip Montanaro wrote: > Mark> Please let me know if SpamBayes is compatible with the Microsoft > Mark> Windows XP Home Service Pack 2 update. > > Several SB developers use WinXP, so I suspect we'd have heard about > it if there was a problem. Why not try it on a test machine and > report back? I'm running with XP Service Pack 2 and have had no problems. If you're using the Outlook add-in then you shouldn't see any difference at all because Outlook handles all network communications. If you're using the POP3 proxy version then you'll need to unblock sb_tray, sb_server, and/or sb_service depending on which variation you are running. SP2 will prompt you when you first start SpamBayes, so you'll know write away and can just select "unblock" when asked. -- Kenny Pitt From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Sep 15 06:29:52 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Sep 15 06:30:16 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] When is the final NON RC version being released In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I suspect the main barrier is lack of time by the people who > can build the Windows side of the distribution. Since Mark & I are the defacto release managers for the moment, I suppose this is the authoritive answer: The 1.0 release is ready and complete (and is in fact no different to 1.0rc2) and can be released at any point. In fact the source distributions are already on sourceforge, although they are hidden (you can still download them if you are clever enough). All that we are awaiting is time from Mark to build the binary to go along with these. Sadly, we've been waiting a couple of months for this - I gather that Mark is really, really busy at the moment. I've been away for the last 3 weeks, but now that I'm back and it appears that Mark still hasn't had the time, I'll put the binary together myself. As this is the first time I'll be putting it together, I'll probably do a very short 1.0rc3 (binary only) and get people to test that it works (packaging only) and then unhide the 1.0 release. For the moment, given that there are *no* changes from 1.0rc2, you might as well use that. =Tony Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Sep 15 06:35:39 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Sep 15 06:37:19 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Some details that could be better In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > I have made a special rule for this; but it might be worth > > considering adding an option to customize the notation, ie. > > when SpamBayes sees the message as spam, it notates to > > "Qedko421805AQ" for example instead of "spam". > > This can be done with manual editing of the SpamBayes > configuration files. If the above change doesn't help you, > let the list know and we can give you details on the settings > to change if you want a different prefix. A (somewhat belated) additional note: There's a bug in the 1.0.x releases that means that although you can change the classification names (e.g. "spam" to "Qedko421805AQ"), the notate_subject and notate_to options will fail to work correctly. This will be fixed in the first 1.1 release (i.e. 1.1a1), and IIRC is already fixed in CVS, if you run from source. However, if you include the trailing comma, and use notate_to rather than notate_subject, problems should be rare (at least, I don't recall ever seeing an email address with a comma, let alone one with 'spam,' in it). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From rramesh at cyberwerx.com Wed Sep 15 07:14:39 2004 From: rramesh at cyberwerx.com (rramesh@cyberwerx.com) Date: Wed Sep 15 07:09:10 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: data Message-ID: <200409150508.i8F58wV25342@uusnwa0n.utc.com> During a routine email scan at UTC, a file attached to this message was deleted per UTC Security Policy. UTC does not allow emailing several file types due to their potential to transmit viruses. An attachment named data.doc .pif was removed from this message. The body text of the message that included the deleted attachment can be found in the .txt file below. It is safe to open this file. If you believe this message is not business related simply delete it. If the message is business related and you require the file that was deleted, please contact the sender and arrange an alternate means of receiving it. The recommended method is to have the sender zip the file before sending it. -------------- next part -------------- Please read the document. From jfg at wtnet.de Wed Sep 15 08:27:12 2004 From: jfg at wtnet.de (JFG) Date: Wed Sep 15 08:24:35 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SBayes V.s 1.0 Message-ID: <200409150624.i8F6OXMB030518@spamok.wtnet.de> Hello, after using SB for months without any problems ? yesterday I could not close MS OL 2003 (on XP Home edition) and SB did not work anymore. There are still the SB-Icons in OL but they do not open anymore. After opening the COM-ADD-INS, SP is mentioned but not activated. After activating, closing and re-opening, the little hook is always gone ? deactivated automatically!?? I deleted the SB-software and installed SP 1.0rc2 again. Same as above mentioned. How can I work again with SBayes?? Mit freundlichen Gr??en JFG Joachim Fritz M?hlenweg 107 a, D-22844 Norderstedt +49 (0)40 52682137 N53 43 40.08 E10 00 47.2 jfg@wtnet.de www.jfgweb.de -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040915/3503b92c/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Sep 15 08:42:20 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Sep 15 08:42:26 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SBayes V.s 1.0 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > after using SB for months without any problems - yesterday > I could not close MS OL 2003 (on XP Home edition) and SB > did not work anymore. There are still the SB-Icons in OL > but they do not open anymore. After opening the COM-ADD-INS, > SP is mentioned but not activated. After activating, closing > and re-opening, the little hook is always gone - deactivated > automatically!?? I believe this is the typical behaviour when Outlook has disabled a plug-in. Try looking in Help->About Microsoft Outlook->Disabled Items. (Why Microsoft decided to have two separate places to disable plug-ins, I have no idea). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Sep 15 08:43:35 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Sep 15 08:43:40 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] spam on spambayes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Found this in my inbox........thought someone would like to > know! Cheers Thanks, but (unfortunately) we all get it too. FAQ 5.8 might make things more clear: =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Sep 15 08:50:24 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Sep 15 08:50:35 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Using sb_upload.py In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > The last thing I need to do is to actually run the training > program. sb_upload.py looks like it ought to be the right > thing, but I'm slightly puzzled by the code. > > When I run it all it appears to do is dump the message on > stdout. It sends the message to the server (I've sniffed the > packets), and drops the message into my unknown cache, but I > can't work out how to make it actually train on the message. > Is it possible? > > What is sb_upload.py really for? It is for exactly what you've described - putting the message into the unknown cache. Then you can use the web interface to train it, manually. If you want a script to train a message, then I think sb_[bn]filter can do this, and maybe sb_mboxtrain? > P.S. Whilst poking around I noticed that the docstring says > that it's for uploading "to a web browser" (i.e. it should > say "server") I'll change the docstring to be clearer about what the script is doing. > and that the -n option doesn't work (easily > fixed by guarding the sys.stdout.write call with "if not null:"). I'll fix that, too; thanks. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Sep 15 09:30:29 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Sep 15 09:30:42 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Help filter In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I have read the trouble shooting guide and have upgraded > SpamBayes to the current version but I am still having trouble. > > I use Microsoft Outlook 2002 > Microsoft Windows 5.1 > SpamBayes 1.orc2 > > I want the program to automatically filter when I start > Outlook. I have check all settings and they appear correct. > Can you help? What does happen when you start Outlook? Do the "delete as spam" / "recover from spam" buttons work? If you open the SpamBayes Manager dialog, does the status box have any messages in it? Do your log files have any error messages in them? Have you told SpamBayes to filter the Inbox? Are messages staying in the Inbox, or being moved out of it by Outlook rules? =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From M.G.Faina at Thomson.com Wed Sep 15 13:44:46 2004 From: M.G.Faina at Thomson.com (Faina, Mihail) Date: Wed Sep 15 13:44:51 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Messages with high Spam % Message-ID: Are staying in the Inbox. According to the % they should be either in "Possible" or "Spam" folders. These folders do contain messages that were filtered as such so the filter works. Any ideas why? Thanks, mihail -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Amir -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040915/4029c328/attachment.htm From johnt at amileasing.com Wed Sep 15 14:22:12 2004 From: johnt at amileasing.com (Tsombakos, John) Date: Wed Sep 15 14:25:36 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2000 locks up filtering email Message-ID: <98385AF6669BD511B69800508BB34FEE058A7765@mail.amileasing.com> Glad I'm not the only one. For what it's worth, here's the last bit of the log from yesterday/last night when it locked up again! Had to restart Outlook again. Sort of a morning ritual... New message timer started - id=31167, delay=2000 OnSelectionChange OnItemAdd event for folder with item Xcnax Here pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 283, in _Invoke_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 288, in _invoke_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 616, in _invokeex_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 550, in _invokeex_ File "addin.pyc", line 388, in OnItemAdd File "win32com\client\__init__.pyc", line 496, in __getattr__ File "win32com\client\__init__.pyc", line 455, in __getattr__ File "win32com\client\__init__.pyc", line 446, in _ApplyTypes_ pywintypes.com_error: (-2147221233, 'OLE error 0x8004010f', None, None) OnItemAdd event for SPAM folder with item Xcnax Here The timer with id=31167 fired The timer with id=31167 was stopped The new message timer found no new items, so is stopping OnItemAdd event for folder with item Java y JSP con uso de PC New message timer started - id=31160, delay=5000 The timer with id=31160 fired The timer with id=31160 was stopped ProcessMessage starting for message 'Java y JSP con uso de PC' Moved message 'Java y JSP con uso de PC' to folder 'Mailbox - Tsombakos, John/New Spam' Message 'Java y JSP con uso de PC' in 'Mailbox - Tsombakos, John/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' ProcessMessage finished for Java y JSP con uso de PC New message timer started - id=31158, delay=2000 OnItemAdd event for SPAM folder with item Java y JSP con uso de PC The timer with id=31158 fired The timer with id=31158 was stopped The new message timer found no new items, so is stopping OnItemAdd event for folder with item Re: TOQTJ, here the insane New message timer started - id=31149, delay=5000 -----Original Message----- From: Conlon, Joseph F SIK [mailto:JConlon@SIKORSKY.COM] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 1:08 PM To: Tsombakos, John Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Outlook 2000 locks up filtering email Same config, same problem, no ideas. I think it was related to a patch corporate pushed out. Let me know if you get any relief. Joe ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Joseph F. Conlon Sikorsky Aircraft PO Box 109610 West Palm Beach FL 33410-9610 jconlon@sikorsky.com Voice: 561-775-5238 Fax: 860-998-8432 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >-----Original Message----- >From: spambayes-bounces@python.org >[mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of Tsombakos, John >Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 8:33 AM >To: spambayes@python.org >Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2000 locks up filtering email > > >Hello, > >I have Spambays running in Outlook 2000, and just about every >morning when I >come in to work, Spambays has locked up Outlooki. I have to >force terminate >and restart to get it going. I'm connected to the corporate >Exchange server >so have a Mailbox Inbox and I have a set of personal folders >that is set as >the delivery location. All email is transfered from my Mailbox >Inbox to my >Personal folders Inbox. I also have a set of Inbox rules that >further filter >my emails (mailing lists, etc.). > >But almost every morning, Spambays has locked up Outlook. I >have the filter >timers on; I've tried different settings, but it still locks >up. I scanned >through the mailing list archive, but didn't see any reference to this >problem in the last few months. > >Is anyone else using the same or similar configuration and has >the magical >settings? I love spambays, as I get around 150-200 junk emails >per day (and >have been keeping track for almost a year of the amount I've >received - as >of this morning I'm up to almost 38000 spam emails!) > >Thanks, > >John T. > >PS. I've looked in the log files and I do not see anything that would >indicate an error. >_______________________________________________ >Spambayes@python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes >Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > From adam.walker at rbwconsulting.com Wed Sep 15 16:50:03 2004 From: adam.walker at rbwconsulting.com (Adam Walker) Date: Wed Sep 15 16:50:13 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2000 locks up filtering email In-Reply-To: <98385AF6669BD511B69800508BB34FEE058A7765@mail.amileasing.com> References: <98385AF6669BD511B69800508BB34FEE058A7765@mail.amileasing.com> Message-ID: <4148569B.3000205@rbwconsulting.com> Googling on 0x8004010f seems to indicate that the problem is with an incorrect migration of exchange server (the address book in particular) and not with spambayes. Tsombakos, John wrote: >Glad I'm not the only one. For what it's worth, here's the last bit of the >log from yesterday/last night when it locked up again! Had to restart >Outlook again. Sort of a morning ritual... > >New message timer started - id=31167, delay=2000 >OnSelectionChange >OnItemAdd event for folder 0x66547960> with item Xcnax Here >pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. >Traceback (most recent call last): > File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 283, in _Invoke_ > File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 288, in _invoke_ > File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 616, in _invokeex_ > File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 550, in _invokeex_ > File "addin.pyc", line 388, in OnItemAdd > File "win32com\client\__init__.pyc", line 496, in __getattr__ > File "win32com\client\__init__.pyc", line 455, in __getattr__ > File "win32com\client\__init__.pyc", line 446, in _ApplyTypes_ >pywintypes.com_error: (-2147221233, 'OLE error 0x8004010f', None, None) >OnItemAdd event for SPAM folder 0x63069360> with item Xcnax Here >The timer with id=31167 fired >The timer with id=31167 was stopped >The new message timer found no new items, so is stopping >OnItemAdd event for folder 0x66547960> with item Java y JSP con uso de PC >New message timer started - id=31160, delay=5000 >The timer with id=31160 fired >The timer with id=31160 was stopped >ProcessMessage starting for message 'Java y JSP con uso de PC' >Moved message 'Java y JSP con uso de PC' to folder 'Mailbox - Tsombakos, >John/New Spam' >Message 'Java y JSP con uso de PC' in 'Mailbox - Tsombakos, John/Inbox' had >a Spam classification of 'Yes' >ProcessMessage finished for Java y JSP con uso de PC >New message timer started - id=31158, delay=2000 >OnItemAdd event for SPAM folder 0x63069360> with item Java y JSP con uso de PC >The timer with id=31158 fired >The timer with id=31158 was stopped >The new message timer found no new items, so is stopping >OnItemAdd event for folder 0x63016072> with item Re: TOQTJ, here the insane >New message timer started - id=31149, delay=5000 > > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Conlon, Joseph F SIK [mailto:JConlon@SIKORSKY.COM] >Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 1:08 PM >To: Tsombakos, John >Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Outlook 2000 locks up filtering email > > >Same config, same problem, no ideas. I think it was related to a patch >corporate pushed out. Let me know if you get any relief. > >Joe > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Joseph F. Conlon >Sikorsky Aircraft >PO Box 109610 >West Palm Beach FL 33410-9610 > >jconlon@sikorsky.com > >Voice: 561-775-5238 > Fax: 860-998-8432 >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: spambayes-bounces@python.org >>[mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of Tsombakos, John >>Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 8:33 AM >>To: spambayes@python.org >>Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2000 locks up filtering email >> >> >>Hello, >> >>I have Spambays running in Outlook 2000, and just about every >>morning when I >>come in to work, Spambays has locked up Outlooki. I have to >>force terminate >>and restart to get it going. I'm connected to the corporate >>Exchange server >>so have a Mailbox Inbox and I have a set of personal folders >>that is set as >>the delivery location. All email is transfered from my Mailbox >>Inbox to my >>Personal folders Inbox. I also have a set of Inbox rules that >>further filter >>my emails (mailing lists, etc.). >> >>But almost every morning, Spambays has locked up Outlook. I >>have the filter >>timers on; I've tried different settings, but it still locks >>up. I scanned >>through the mailing list archive, but didn't see any reference to this >>problem in the last few months. >> >>Is anyone else using the same or similar configuration and has >>the magical >>settings? I love spambays, as I get around 150-200 junk emails >>per day (and >>have been keeping track for almost a year of the amount I've >>received - as >>of this morning I'm up to almost 38000 spam emails!) >> >>Thanks, >> >>John T. >> >>PS. I've looked in the log files and I do not see anything that would >>indicate an error. >>_______________________________________________ >>Spambayes@python.org >>http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes >>Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html >> >> >> >_______________________________________________ >Spambayes@python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes >Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > > From johnt at amileasing.com Wed Sep 15 16:56:06 2004 From: johnt at amileasing.com (Tsombakos, John) Date: Wed Sep 15 16:59:37 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2000 locks up filtering email Message-ID: <98385AF6669BD511B69800508BB34FEE058A790E@mail.amileasing.com> This is the only occurance of this error in the log file, and we haven't done any exchange server migration - been using the same version (5) for the past couple of years now. Even so, it did proceed to process more emails before locking up. -----Original Message----- From: Adam Walker [mailto:adam.walker@rbwconsulting.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 10:50 AM To: Tsombakos, John Cc: spambayes@python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Outlook 2000 locks up filtering email Googling on 0x8004010f seems to indicate that the problem is with an incorrect migration of exchange server (the address book in particular) and not with spambayes. Tsombakos, John wrote: >Glad I'm not the only one. For what it's worth, here's the last bit of the >log from yesterday/last night when it locked up again! Had to restart >Outlook again. Sort of a morning ritual... > >New message timer started - id=31167, delay=2000 >OnSelectionChange >OnItemAdd event for folder 0x66547960> with item Xcnax Here >pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. >Traceback (most recent call last): > File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 283, in _Invoke_ > File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 288, in _invoke_ > File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 616, in _invokeex_ > File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 550, in _invokeex_ > File "addin.pyc", line 388, in OnItemAdd > File "win32com\client\__init__.pyc", line 496, in __getattr__ > File "win32com\client\__init__.pyc", line 455, in __getattr__ > File "win32com\client\__init__.pyc", line 446, in _ApplyTypes_ >pywintypes.com_error: (-2147221233, 'OLE error 0x8004010f', None, None) >OnItemAdd event for SPAM folder 0x63069360> with item Xcnax Here >The timer with id=31167 fired >The timer with id=31167 was stopped >The new message timer found no new items, so is stopping >OnItemAdd event for folder 0x66547960> with item Java y JSP con uso de PC >New message timer started - id=31160, delay=5000 >The timer with id=31160 fired >The timer with id=31160 was stopped >ProcessMessage starting for message 'Java y JSP con uso de PC' >Moved message 'Java y JSP con uso de PC' to folder 'Mailbox - Tsombakos, >John/New Spam' >Message 'Java y JSP con uso de PC' in 'Mailbox - Tsombakos, John/Inbox' had >a Spam classification of 'Yes' >ProcessMessage finished for Java y JSP con uso de PC >New message timer started - id=31158, delay=2000 >OnItemAdd event for SPAM folder 0x63069360> with item Java y JSP con uso de PC >The timer with id=31158 fired >The timer with id=31158 was stopped >The new message timer found no new items, so is stopping >OnItemAdd event for folder 0x63016072> with item Re: TOQTJ, here the insane >New message timer started - id=31149, delay=5000 > > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Conlon, Joseph F SIK [mailto:JConlon@SIKORSKY.COM] >Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 1:08 PM >To: Tsombakos, John >Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Outlook 2000 locks up filtering email > > >Same config, same problem, no ideas. I think it was related to a patch >corporate pushed out. Let me know if you get any relief. > >Joe > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Joseph F. Conlon >Sikorsky Aircraft >PO Box 109610 >West Palm Beach FL 33410-9610 > >jconlon@sikorsky.com > >Voice: 561-775-5238 > Fax: 860-998-8432 >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: spambayes-bounces@python.org >>[mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of Tsombakos, John >>Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 8:33 AM >>To: spambayes@python.org >>Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2000 locks up filtering email >> >> >>Hello, >> >>I have Spambays running in Outlook 2000, and just about every >>morning when I >>come in to work, Spambays has locked up Outlooki. I have to >>force terminate >>and restart to get it going. I'm connected to the corporate >>Exchange server >>so have a Mailbox Inbox and I have a set of personal folders >>that is set as >>the delivery location. All email is transfered from my Mailbox >>Inbox to my >>Personal folders Inbox. I also have a set of Inbox rules that >>further filter >>my emails (mailing lists, etc.). >> >>But almost every morning, Spambays has locked up Outlook. I >>have the filter >>timers on; I've tried different settings, but it still locks >>up. I scanned >>through the mailing list archive, but didn't see any reference to this >>problem in the last few months. >> >>Is anyone else using the same or similar configuration and has >>the magical >>settings? I love spambays, as I get around 150-200 junk emails >>per day (and >>have been keeping track for almost a year of the amount I've >>received - as >>of this morning I'm up to almost 38000 spam emails!) >> >>Thanks, >> >>John T. >> >>PS. I've looked in the log files and I do not see anything that would >>indicate an error. >>_______________________________________________ >>Spambayes@python.org >>http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes >>Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html >> >> >> >_______________________________________________ >Spambayes@python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes >Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > > From b.chris at quicknet.nl Wed Sep 15 17:17:12 2004 From: b.chris at quicknet.nl (Chris Bosschert) Date: Wed Sep 15 17:10:41 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Op zoek Message-ID: <000601c49b37$13b08aa0$579ed952@PC> Ik ben op zoek naar Leo Wolthers. Geboren in Amsterdam, leeftijd nu 63/64 jaar. Moet de lagere Sint Leoschool hebben doorlopen in Amsterdam, 1947-1953. Heeft u een hint voor mij? Met vriendelijke groeten, Chris Bosschert. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Sep 16 05:24:17 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Sep 16 05:24:25 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] junk suspect folder gone In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I have been using spambayes successfully for several weeks. > Today the spam suspect folder has diappeared. I > uninstalled & re-installed, still not there. > > In the configuration settings I also verified that a > junk suspect has been selected. Any ideas? Please see FAQ 3.13: =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From abhijit.mate at otis.com Thu Sep 16 07:02:41 2004 From: abhijit.mate at otis.com (abhijit.mate@otis.com) Date: Thu Sep 16 07:02:27 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Mail Delivery (failure spambayes@python.org) Message-ID: <200409160502.i8G52Ih21358@uusnwa0n.utc.com> ------------------ Virus Warning Message (on uusnwa0n) ------------------ Found virus HTML_Netsky.P in file email-body The uncleanable file is deleted. --------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- During a routine email scan at UTC, a file attached to this message was deleted per UTC Security Policy. UTC does not allow emailing several file types due to their potential to transmit viruses. An attachment named message.scr was removed from this message. The body text of the message that included the deleted attachment can be found in the .txt file below. It is safe to open this file. If you believe this message is not business related simply delete it. If the message is business related and you require the file that was deleted, please contact the sender and arrange an alternate means of receiving it. The recommended method is to have the sender zip the file before sending it. -------------- next part -------------- Skipped content of type multipart/alternative From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Sep 16 07:03:27 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Sep 16 07:04:04 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam crashing sb_imapfilter.py In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [It doesn't appear that this messages to spambayes@python.org has been answered yet - sorry about that! I've been away and so are catching up with the messages. Please ignore if I'm wrong and this has been resolved already.] > Has anyone come across spam that crashes sb_imapfilter.py? > I've been getting one or two a week that will stop > sb_imapfilter.py cold, and the only way I can fix it is to go > in manually and delete the offending spam. The first 1.1 release of SpamBayes will have a more robust sb_imapfilter that handles these more gracefully (skipping them each time). Using Python 2.4 would also solve the problem. Until then, there isn't really anything to be done apart from what you're already doing. > I've several of > these emails saved, and I can reproduce the error: > > c:\spambayes\scripts\sb_imapfilter.py -c -e y > SpamBayes IMAP Filter Version 0.3 (April 2004) > and engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004). > > Traceback (most recent call last): [...] > raise TypeError, 'string payload expected: %s' % type(payload) > TypeError: string payload expected: This particular error should be handled already, though. Are you using 1.0rc2? =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Sep 16 07:04:11 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Sep 16 07:04:22 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Removal from outlook and express In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [It doesn't appear that this messages to spambayes@python.org has been answered yet - sorry about that! I've been away and so are catching up with the messages. Please ignore if I'm wrong and this has been resolved already.] > How do I do this the uninstaller did not remove all the "hooks" Please see FAQ 3.16: =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Sep 16 07:05:47 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Sep 16 07:05:54 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Delete the programme In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [It doesn't appear that this messages to spambayes@python.org has been answered yet - sorry about that! I've been away and so are catching up with the messages. Please ignore if I'm wrong and this has been resolved already.] > I just tried to instal the programme but my firewall > kicked in and stopped the full setup - I decided to > uninstall the programme. > > I ran uninstall but there is still a file called > SpamBayes in my programme files - I cannot delete these files What happens if you try? There shouldn't be any reason why you can't delete the SpamBayes files manually if you try (assuming that Outlook is closed, so they aren't in use). What error message do you get? =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From Christopher.Woo at pepperdine.edu Thu Sep 16 07:08:29 2004 From: Christopher.Woo at pepperdine.edu (Woo, Christopher) Date: Thu Sep 16 07:08:44 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam crashing sb_imapfilter.py Message-ID: I'll look into upgrading Python to 2.4. As for running RC2, I did extract it over an older installation of SpamBayes. Would that lead to problems? CW -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 10:03 PM To: Woo, Christopher; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Spam crashing sb_imapfilter.py [It doesn't appear that this messages to spambayes@python.org has been answered yet - sorry about that! I've been away and so are catching up with the messages. Please ignore if I'm wrong and this has been resolved already.] > Has anyone come across spam that crashes sb_imapfilter.py? > I've been getting one or two a week that will stop > sb_imapfilter.py cold, and the only way I can fix it is to go > in manually and delete the offending spam. The first 1.1 release of SpamBayes will have a more robust sb_imapfilter that handles these more gracefully (skipping them each time). Using Python 2.4 would also solve the problem. Until then, there isn't really anything to be done apart from what you're already doing. > I've several of > these emails saved, and I can reproduce the error: > > c:\spambayes\scripts\sb_imapfilter.py -c -e y > SpamBayes IMAP Filter Version 0.3 (April 2004) > and engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004). > > Traceback (most recent call last): [...] > raise TypeError, 'string payload expected: %s' % type(payload) > TypeError: string payload expected: This particular error should be handled already, though. Are you using 1.0rc2? =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Sep 16 07:10:25 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Sep 16 07:10:31 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Exceptions in email In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [It doesn't appear that this messages to spambayes@python.org has been answered yet - sorry about that! I've been away and so are catching up with the messages. Please ignore if I'm wrong and this has been resolved already.] > Hi, all of a sudden I'm getting messages that have the following > X-Spambayes-Exception: > [...] > "email\Parser.pyc", line 245, in _parsebody .BoundaryError: multipart > message with no defined boundary > > I googled for this and I found some related posts to spambayes-bugs > dating back to Jan 2003. Has this been fixed at all? I'm not sure whether or not this particular malformation has specific code to handle it or not (I would have thought so if there are messages from that long ago, but given the results, it appears not). The situation with handling malformations is that the Python email library (which SpamBayes uses) handles any malformed message in a nice way, which will avoid all of these problems, in the latest version. This means that anyone running from source and using Python 2.4 or above will never see this problem. For those using the binaries, future releases (1.1a1 and above, I suspect) will be built with Python 2.4, and so also be fine. Until that point, it doesn't really make any sense for us to duplicate their work and build in safeguards against specific malformations - especially since the programs continue to operate fine and just have the exception header added. > If not, is it safe to have my client classify messages with this > exception header as spam? So far I've only noticed it in spam, but > that's because they showed up in my inbox. I don't know if > there's any ham exhibiting the same behavior. But if it's because of > syntax that's very very extremely unlikely to come up in normal mail, > then perhaps it's safe? Personally, I would think that it's extremely unlikely that you'd get legitimate mail like that. Certainly if you only get mail from people using the mainstream mail clients, the chances are minute. It's up to you to decide, of course - but if you occasionally review your spam folder, then this would be fine. Otherwise, it would be reasonable to consider anything with the exception header as unsure. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Sep 16 07:13:50 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Sep 16 07:13:55 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [It doesn't appear that this messages to spambayes@python.org has been answered yet - sorry about that! I've been away and so are catching up with the messages. Please ignore if I'm wrong and this has been resolved already.] > I did an MSN update and now my SpamBayes > is not working. It's gone. It's is not filtering > and the tool bar is gone. > I missed placed the directions on how to re-install. To reinstall, just run the installer again (redownload it from http://spambayes.org if necessary). You could try checking Help->About Microsoft Outlook->Disabled Items first, as Outlook might have simply disabled the plug-in. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Sep 16 07:18:12 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Sep 16 07:18:18 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] BoundaryError: multipart message with no definedboundary In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [It doesn't appear that this messages to spambayes@python.org has been answered yet - sorry about that! I've been away and so are catching up with the messages. Please ignore if I'm wrong and this has been resolved already.] > It looks like the email is causing a program exception, > which means it is not being classified as spam. [...] > X-Spambayes-Exception: Traceback (most recent call last): > . File "sb_server.pyc", line 471, in onRetr > . File "spambayes\message.pyc", line 247, in setPayload > . File "email\Parser.pyc", line 245, in _parsebody > .BoundaryError: multipart message with no defined boundary What is happening here is that the message is malformed (either deliberately, or because of bad spamware). As such, SpamBayes isn't able to make sense of it to be able to figure out whether it looks like ham or spam. So it just adds the exception header so you know it's been looked at, and leaves it. New versions of SpamBayes (1.1 and beyond) will use a newer version of the email library, which handles all such problems very cleanly. For the moment, it's not really worth us duplicating this work to add code for specific problems, unless they are extremely common. Normally, I'd suggest that you setup your mail client to move all messages with the exception header to the unsure folder, since the chances of them being spam are very high. However, OE can't filter on arbitrary headers, so that's not a possibility here. Would it be useful to be able to have the exception header also added to the recipient list/subject like the classifications are? (Like "Exception,Regular subject here"). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Sep 16 07:20:37 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Sep 16 07:20:42 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes stopped working In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [It doesn't appear that this messages to spambayes@python.org has been answered yet - sorry about that! I've been away and so are catching up with the messages. Please ignore if I'm wrong and this has been resolved already.] > spambayes has stopped working on all of my machines. > No error messages, it appears per normal. It simply > stopped working. I tried both version 1.02 and 1.09 > and they simply seem to have shutdown. > I am running XP, (home and pro), and Outlook. Previously, > Spambayes worked like gangbusters. > Is there a virus or something that is disabling spambayes? > Have you had other instances of this problem? I even > uninstalled and re-installed both versions several times. > No go. It's very strange that it simultaneously stopped on more than one machine. Are they sharing the database? If you could find the most recent log for for each machine (the troubleshooting guide - there's a copy online - explains where to find the logs) and send it to the list, that would greatly help in figuring out the cause. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Sep 16 07:24:18 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Sep 16 07:24:26 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Windows Service Shuts Down Always In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [It doesn't appear that this messages to spambayes@python.org has been answered yet - sorry about that! I've been away and so are catching up with the messages. Please ignore if I'm wrong and this has been resolved already.] > The first time it was installed it worked flawlessly. Later > I ran the SpamBayes Tray Icon and then Exited from that. > > After that the Service had stopped. And when I try to start it the > service starts and then abruptly stops almost immediately. I > "removed" the service and reinstalled it with the same result - it > stops after starting. > > Now I cannot get the Service to stay "started." I can, > however, still run the SpamBayes Tray Icon as a workaround. > > Please let me know how to fix the Service problem. Could you run "python pop3proxy_service.py debug" (in the appropriate directory) and let us know what the output is? It ought to print out some sort of error wherever it's choking. (Alternatively, this error should also be in the log file). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From vijaysb7 at hotmail.com Thu Sep 16 07:35:20 2004 From: vijaysb7 at hotmail.com (vijaysb7@hotmail.com) Date: Thu Sep 16 07:35:06 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: approved Message-ID: <200409160534.i8G5Yvh29112@uusnwa0n.utc.com> During a routine email scan at UTC, a file attached to this message was deleted per UTC Security Policy. UTC does not allow emailing several file types due to their potential to transmit viruses. An attachment named text_spambayes.exe was removed from this message. The body text of the message that included the deleted attachment can be found in the .txt file below. It is safe to open this file. If you believe this message is not business related simply delete it. If the message is business related and you require the file that was deleted, please contact the sender and arrange an alternate means of receiving it. The recommended method is to have the sender zip the file before sending it. -------------- next part -------------- See the file. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Sep 16 07:36:08 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Sep 16 07:36:38 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] How well does sb_imapfilter.py work? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [It doesn't appear that this messages to spambayes@python.org has been answered yet - sorry about that! I've been away and so are catching up with the messages. Please ignore if I'm wrong and this has been resolved already.] > I learnt from my short experiments with imapfilter the following: > > * imapfilter seemed to work quite slowly when it processed a > lot of messages. It seemed to hang for a while. If I just > waited, then it finished, though. The 1.1 version of sb_imapfilter should be a fair bit faster, I hope. Feel free to grab the source from CVS and give it a go! > * When I interrupted it with Ctrl+Break the database was > broken (AssertionError spamcount <= nspam). Yes, interrupting any SpamBayes script is asking for database trouble. I think most of us would be happy to move away from the bsddb database that we use at the moment (hopefully solving some of the problems); unfortunately it's a lot of work, and requires being familiar with some db system. > * The web interface is out of sync, if you start it first, > and then do some filtering. The statistics are not correct. The web interface won't run at the same time as the filter, will it? (It's been a while since I've used it). If there is a problem like this, please open a bug tracker on sourceforge and I'll get to it when I can. > * The web interface had problems with showing the folders > selected for filtering and unsure/spam. Now it seems to work. This should also be improved in 1.1 (probably also 1.0.1). > * The web interface shows the password in clear text on > screen. Feel free to open a feature request tracker on sourceforge about this. I'm not sure exactly what to do, other than special-case this, though, since all the other options are just shown in plain text. You can use the -P option, of course. > Also -i 4 shows the password. I've tried to think of something to do about this before, since it's easy to accidentally submit your username and password when debugging. Perhaps it should set the debug level to 0 when logging in, and then reset? Again, a bug tracker would encourage me to get something done about it. > It is impossible to configure settings when some > other people are in the same room... Suggestions are welcome :) > * If I didn't use the expunge option, then the messages were > tripled in Outlook 2003 in Cached Exchange mode. 1.1 will handle this nicer. > Imapfilter has two shortcomings: > * It can't process more than one server/login. The infrastructure is all there for this, but no-one has ever asked for it before. A feature request tracker for this would probably get done reasonably promptly (for 1.1, not for 1.0.1). > * It can't move the filtered good messages to another folder. There's already a feature request open about this, I think. Add your plea to it, and that'll encourage me to get to it sooner. > I thought about adding those, but probably I'll wait for > Spambayes 1.1 and Python 2.4 first. If you are considering working on it (that would be great!), then you should really work from the CVS version. Do an anonymous checkout and run with that. Otherwise you'll always be working against code that's quite out of date. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Sep 16 07:40:26 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Sep 16 07:40:35 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: How well does sb_imapfilter.py work? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [It doesn't appear that this messages to spambayes@python.org has been answered yet - sorry about that! I've been away and so am catching up with the messages. Please ignore this if I'm wrong and this has been resolved already.] [Remembering messages] > Out of curiosity, could this be done using UIDs? I guess that > would add the necessity of keeping track of UIDs, but if reading/writing > is the main performance culprit, it would be a lot faster. Maybe that's > what happens in 1.1? IMAP is a terrible protocol. One of the problems is that UIDs are not required to be persistent. They often are, but that's just an implementation choice. Even combined with the UIDVALIDITY value, it's not enough. Otherwise this would have been the initial choice, as it's certainly the easiest (and fastest, because you can get hold of the UID without anything else). Flags would be good, too, except that servers aren't required to accept arbitrary flags, although many do. What 1.1 does is use the Message-ID header, if the message already has one, and add it's own if it doesn't. Almost all email messages do have a Message-ID header, and although it's not certain to be unique, the chances of duplication are very remote. > I'll keep testing it ... I'll try downloading 1.1, too (I > guess we can get this from CVS?). Yes, if you use the code in CVS (Head), that's what will end up being 1.1a1. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From graham at effectif.com Thu Sep 16 08:51:25 2004 From: graham at effectif.com (Graham Ashton) Date: Thu Sep 16 08:52:47 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Using sb_upload.py In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1095317485.4478.18.camel@ratchet.effectif.com> On Wed, 2004-09-15 at 07:50, Tony Meyer wrote: > > What is sb_upload.py really for? > > It is for exactly what you've described - putting the message into the > unknown cache. Then you can use the web interface to train it, manually. > > If you want a script to train a message, then I think sb_[bn]filter can do > this, and maybe sb_mboxtrain? Thanks for the reply. Good to know. I had tried sb_mboxtrain and sb_filter, but (because I'm already running sb_server as a POP proxy) I get "resource temporarily unavailable" (i.e. the DBM file is locked). Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/bin/sb_mboxtrain.py", line 315, in ? main() File "/usr/local/bin/sb_mboxtrain.py", line 296, in main h = hammie.open(pck, usedb, "c") File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/hammie.py", line 258, in open return Hammie(storage.open_storage(filename, useDB, mode)) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/storage.py", line 675, in open_storage return klass(data_source_name, mode) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/storage.py", line 162, in __init__ self.load() File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/storage.py", line 187, in load self.dbm = dbmstorage.open(self.db_name, self.mode) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/dbmstorage.py", line 60, in open return f(db_name, mode) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/dbmstorage.py", line 25, in open_gdbm return gdbm.open(*args) gdbm.error: (11, 'Resource temporarily unavailable') When I stopped sb_server and ran sb_mboxtrain again I got a seperate traceback (you may choose to ignore this as I'm still using 1.0a7): ratchet% sb_mboxtrain.py -d hammie.db Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/bin/sb_mboxtrain.py", line 315, in ? main() File "/usr/local/bin/sb_mboxtrain.py", line 310, in main if save: UnboundLocalError: local variable 'save' referenced before assignment Once I'd shut down sb_server I found that running sb_filter with the -g option did the job. The problem is, I don't want to have to kill the proxy in order to train from my drag-n-drop application. If I were to develop a means for sb_server users to train from the command line and provide a patch, which approach would you prefer? I was wondering if a patch providing -s and -g for sb_upload would be the right thing. At the moment I'm considering web page scraping/CGI POST from within my application, but I suppose an sb_upload patch would be more in the spirit of open source... -- Graham Ashton From Allen.Windhorn at LSUSA.com Thu Sep 16 17:29:08 2004 From: Allen.Windhorn at LSUSA.com (Windhorn, Allen, E. [LS/MKT]) Date: Thu Sep 16 17:27:43 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: Spambayes Digest, Vol 73, Issue 21 Message-ID: John & the group: > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 17:20:37 +1200 > From: "Tony Meyer" > Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Spambayes stopped working > To: "'Liner, John'" , > > > spambayes has stopped working on all of my machines. > > No error messages, it appears per normal. It simply > > stopped working. I tried both version 1.02 and 1.09 > > and they simply seem to have shutdown. > > I am running XP, (home and pro), and Outlook. Previously, > > Spambayes worked like gangbusters. > > Is there a virus or something that is disabling spambayes? > > Have you had other instances of this problem? I even > > uninstalled and re-installed both versions several times. > > No go. > > It's very strange that it simultaneously stopped on more than > one machine. > Are they sharing the database? > > If you could find the most recent log for each machine (the > troubleshooting guide - there's a copy online - explains > where to find the logs) and send it to the list, that would > greatly help in figuring out the cause. John, when you say SpamBayes "stopped working", do you mean that none of the functions work? Have you tried waiting a while? Does Outlook work normally? On mine, I get an hourglass for about 5 minutes after starting Outlook, then everything works manually. The automatic filtering seems to be disabled, but it will sometimes restart after a long time (several hours). I'm doing an experiment today to see whether it will restart at all -- I suspect it may have restarted before when I entered and exited the SpamBayes Manager so I'm avoiding that today (3.5 hours so far). If it is any help, here is my log for today (hasn't started working yet): ------------------------------------------ System verbosity set to 1 No old pickle file to migrate Warning: option experimental_ham_spam_imbalance_adjustment in section Classifier is deprecated Loaded bayes database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\ windhoae\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db' Loaded message database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\ windhoae\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db' Bayes database initialized with 1231 spam and 1052 good messages Loaded databases in 391.437ms SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0rc2 (June 2004) starting (with engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004)) on Windows 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 4) using Python 2.3.3 (#51, Feb 13 2004, 14:39:56) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] NOTE: Skipping folder for this session - temporarily unavailable NOTE: Skipping folder for this session - temporarily unavailable NOTE: Skipping folder for this session - temporarily unavailable NOTE: Skipping folder for this session - temporarily unavailable FAILED to add the toolbar item 'SpamBayesCommand.Manager' - (-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.', (0, None, None, None, 0, -2147467259), None) The above toolbar message is common - recreating the toolbar... ------------------------------------------- Is there any setting that tells the program to retry several times and then quit? If so, can it be changed? Regards, Allen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040916/b8388de6/attachment.html From jliner at harris.com Thu Sep 16 18:50:10 2004 From: jliner at harris.com (Liner, John) Date: Thu Sep 16 18:50:28 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: Spambayes Digest, and my problems.... Message-ID: <85FF18B4F608D6119F100002A5CE7B8909D0AB40@ROCMX1> Allen, Yeah, none of the functions worked. In the past, it sometimes took quite a long time for spambayes to work, but recently it just seemed to cease altogether. It is possible I did not wait long enough. I did not realize that it sometimes took hours. My Outlooks work per normal; no problems there. I am not sharing the same databases. I let Spambayes learn on it's own on each machine. The learning process seemed to go quickly and as long as it was working I never really had a problem with junk and spam. I don't know, perhaps it was as you said-just takes a long time to work and I misconstrued it as failure. Anyway, I deleted it from my machines, and I re-installed it here at work. I will do the same at home, and see what happens. The re-install here at work seems to be functioning OK now. I guess this time I'll pay closer attention to what's going on, and save my logs and examine them. I did not think to look at the logs from the original. I'll check on my home machine and see if it is still there. Tony, if it is, I'll send it to you. thanks for the help and advice. Please sign me up in your group(s). It is a great application and I'll continue using it. Nothing else I've tried comes close to spambayes efficiency. It's interesting to me that Bays theories would have been created at a time when there were no computers, much like Boolean Algebra. I love this stuff. wish I had more time to delve deeper into it. Oh well, maybe after I retire. (Hopefully, soon!) thanks, guys. I'll keep an eye on it and let you know what happens over the next few days. John. -----Original Message----- From: Windhorn, Allen, E. [LS/MKT] [mailto:Allen.Windhorn@LSUSA.com] Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 11:29 AM To: 'spambayes@python.org' Cc: 'jliner@harris.com' Subject: RE: Spambayes Digest, Vol 73, Issue 21 John & the group: > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 17:20:37 +1200 > From: "Tony Meyer" > Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Spambayes stopped working > To: "'Liner, John'" , > > > spambayes has stopped working on all of my machines. > > No error messages, it appears per normal. It simply > > stopped working. I tried both version 1.02 and 1.09 > > and they simply seem to have shutdown. > > I am running XP, (home and pro), and Outlook. Previously, > > Spambayes worked like gangbusters. > > Is there a virus or something that is disabling spambayes? > > Have you had other instances of this problem? I even > > uninstalled and re-installed both versions several times. > > No go. > > It's very strange that it simultaneously stopped on more than > one machine. > Are they sharing the database? > > If you could find the most recent log for each machine (the > troubleshooting guide - there's a copy online - explains > where to find the logs) and send it to the list, that would > greatly help in figuring out the cause. John, when you say SpamBayes "stopped working", do you mean that none of the functions work? Have you tried waiting a while? Does Outlook work normally? On mine, I get an hourglass for about 5 minutes after starting Outlook, then everything works manually. The automatic filtering seems to be disabled, but it will sometimes restart after a long time (several hours). I'm doing an experiment today to see whether it will restart at all -- I suspect it may have restarted before when I entered and exited the SpamBayes Manager so I'm avoiding that today (3.5 hours so far). If it is any help, here is my log for today (hasn't started working yet): ------------------------------------------ System verbosity set to 1 No old pickle file to migrate Warning: option experimental_ham_spam_imbalance_adjustment in section Classifier is deprecated Loaded bayes database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\ windhoae\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db' Loaded message database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\ windhoae\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db' Bayes database initialized with 1231 spam and 1052 good messages Loaded databases in 391.437ms SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0rc2 (June 2004) starting (with engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004)) on Windows 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 4) using Python 2.3.3 (#51, Feb 13 2004, 14:39:56) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] NOTE: Skipping folder for this session - temporarily unavailable NOTE: Skipping folder for this session - temporarily unavailable NOTE: Skipping folder for this session - temporarily unavailable NOTE: Skipping folder for this session - temporarily unavailable FAILED to add the toolbar item 'SpamBayesCommand.Manager' - (-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.', (0, None, None, None, 0, -2147467259), None) The above toolbar message is common - recreating the toolbar... ------------------------------------------- Is there any setting that tells the program to retry several times and then quit? 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Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: Liner, John [mailto:jliner@harris.com] > ...Anyway, I deleted it from my machines, and I re-installed it > here at work. I will do the same at home, and see what happens. I did that, but no improvement. > The re-install here at work seems to be functioning OK now. I > guess this time I'll pay closer attention to what's going on, > and save my logs and examine them. Glad to hear yours is working better. Regards, Allen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040916/7a3190ee/attachment.html From null at adultfreely.com Thu Sep 16 21:04:51 2004 From: null at adultfreely.com (Do not reply) Date: Thu Sep 16 23:08:13 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Thank you for your message! 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I was > thinking the server could have some sort of way to collect > and find relationships between all user data and form rules > based on all data from all users. There are two main problems with this: * SpamBayes works by gathering an understanding of what spam looks like *and* what ham looks like. So you'd really also need a central collection of ham, as well as spam. There are a lot of privacy issues with that, among other problems. * The strength of SpamBayes (and similar filters) is that it builds up an individual understanding of what mail you want to see and what mail you don't want to see. This would negate that strength. (It would also make it simple for a spammer to download the central corpus and remove all words that score highly). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Sep 17 03:06:43 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Sep 17 03:06:53 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Using sb_upload.py In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > The problem is, I don't want to have to kill the proxy in > order to train from my drag-n-drop application. If I were to develop > a means for sb_server users to train from the command line and > provide a patch, which approach would you prefer? I was wondering > if a patch providing -s and -g for sb_upload would be the right thing. I suppose so. Skip wrote (and uses?) sb_upload, so I guess he would have the definitive answer. FWIW, all you should need to do is change "/upload" on line 134 to "/train" and add in whether it's ham or spam ('?which=Train%20as%20Spam' or something like that, I think) and that should do it. Plus the extra command line arg stuff, of course. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. 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[LS/MKT]) Date: Fri Sep 17 15:26:49 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: Spambayes stopped working Message-ID: I now have definite evidence that if I open SpamBayes Manager and then close it immediately, the automatic message scan will restart after a few minutes, and if I don't do that, it "never" (10 hours) does. Does this action trigger a recheck of some condition? Is there a way to make the program do this periodically? IT says there have been no patches that "should" affect Spambayes, and my mailbox really was full (now emptied and still have a problem). OTOH, I don't think I have changed anything else either. Regards, Allen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040917/b885a7d8/attachment.htm From skip at pobox.com Fri Sep 17 17:16:07 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Fri Sep 17 17:16:23 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Using sb_upload.py In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <16714.65463.910320.116597@montanaro.dyndns.org> >> The problem is, I don't want to have to kill the proxy in order to >> train from my drag-n-drop application. If I were to develop a means >> for sb_server users to train from the command line and provide a >> patch, which approach would you prefer? I was wondering if a patch >> providing -s and -g for sb_upload would be the right thing. Tony> I suppose so. Skip wrote (and uses?) sb_upload, so I guess he Tony> would have the definitive answer. Definitive? I don't know about that. ;-) I wrote it but no longer use it. I use my tte script for training and sb_bnfilter for scoring. As for -s and -g flags, that would be fine. Some change in sb_server will obvious also be necessary. Skip From johnt at amileasing.com Fri Sep 17 17:27:14 2004 From: johnt at amileasing.com (Tsombakos, John) Date: Fri Sep 17 17:30:39 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2000 locks up filtering email Message-ID: <98385AF6669BD511B69800508BB34FEE0596B98E@mail.amileasing.com> Locked up again last night. Also just had to kill Outlook - locked up. There were no errors in the logs - this was the last entry before it froze: The timer with id=20845 fired Moved message 'Your application 9-16-04' to folder 'Mailbox - Tsombakos, John/New Spam' Message 'Your application 9-16-04' in 'Personal Folders/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' New message timer started - id=20844, delay=2000 The timer with id=20844 fired The new message timer found no new items, so is stopping -----Original Message----- From: Tsombakos, John Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 8:22 AM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Outlook 2000 locks up filtering email Glad I'm not the only one. For what it's worth, here's the last bit of the log from yesterday/last night when it locked up again! Had to restart Outlook again. Sort of a morning ritual... From Harold.Vandeventer at dpra.com Fri Sep 17 19:01:34 2004 From: Harold.Vandeventer at dpra.com (Harold Vandeventer) Date: Fri Sep 17 19:05:25 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Follow-up on Screen refresh issue Message-ID: <710C39AC5BC90648B3CA31DC47D111160AE2A00E@mhk02.ad.dpra.com> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 1481 bytes Desc: image001.jpg Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040917/a43251b4/attachment.jpe From odegani at pacbell.net Fri Sep 17 19:12:53 2004 From: odegani at pacbell.net (Oded) Date: Fri Sep 17 19:12:55 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes gone crazy...! Message-ID: <00ae01c49cd9$91c6d5e0$6401a8c0@home> I have been using it for a while now it work pretty much to my satisfaction when, out of the blue, it started sending good messages down the "junk E-Mail way"! 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040917/5b51ff93/attachment.htm From Martha.F.Samuel at irs.gov Fri Sep 17 21:59:21 2004 From: Martha.F.Samuel at irs.gov (Samuel Martha F) Date: Fri Sep 17 21:59:34 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Calendar Problem Message-ID: I can't access my manager's calendar with spsmbay software enabled. He has designated me as a delegate to manage his appointments. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040917/24e12bd4/attachment.htm From coffent at bigfoot.com Sat Sep 18 03:21:12 2004 From: coffent at bigfoot.com (C Stephan) Date: Sat Sep 18 03:35:59 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Compatibility problem with JoiExpress Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20040917205122.00a117b0@localhost> My ISP (Access4Less) offered a download accelerator called JoiExpress, (http://www.myjoi.net/support/Faq/JoiExpress.htm) which I recently installed. SpamBayes was working well before. Since installing JoiExpress, SpamBayes continues to filter my mail, but when I try to Review Messages, View Information, or Configure, Internet Explorer returns a screen saying "Cannot find server", where the address listed is (e.g.) http://localhost:8880/config. JoiExpress uses 8080 as its port number by default. I tried changing the JoiExpress and Internet Explorer ports to 8081 to see if that would help, but it did not. If I stop JoiExpress from running, then SpamBayes is able to open the configuration, etc. pages ok. Can you offer any advice on how to resolve this conflict? Thanks. Craig Stephan From jszyman3 at merr.com Sat Sep 18 12:57:46 2004 From: jszyman3 at merr.com (Jeff Szymanski) Date: Sat Sep 18 12:57:59 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] mail checker add-on Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20040918055516.00aa1a00@localhost> Hello. Thanks for providing SpamBayes. Just started using your product so can't comment on its performance yet. A nice feature to add would be a mail checker that queries the server at user-determined intervals. From richie at entrian.com Sat Sep 18 14:42:43 2004 From: richie at entrian.com (Richie Hindle) Date: Sat Sep 18 14:42:54 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Compatibility problem with JoiExpress In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20040917205122.00a117b0@localhost> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20040917205122.00a117b0@localhost> Message-ID: [Craig] > My ISP (Access4Less) offered a download accelerator called JoiExpress, > (http://www.myjoi.net/support/Faq/JoiExpress.htm) which I recently > installed. SpamBayes was working well before. Since installing > JoiExpress, SpamBayes continues to filter my mail, but when I try to Review > Messages, View Information, or Configure, Internet Explorer returns a > screen saying "Cannot find server", where the address listed is (e.g.) > http://localhost:8880/config. JoiExpress has probably installed itself as a proxy for Internet Explorer, meaning that Internet Explorer goes via JoiExpress for all your web requests. JoiExpress is failing to realise that 'localhost' is your own machine rather than a machine on the internet You need to tell Internet Explorer not to go via JoiExpress for requests to 'localhost'. In Internet Explorer, go Tools, Internet Options, Connections. If you're on dialup, select your ISP's name in the list and click Settings. If you're on broadband or a local network, click LAN Settings. If the "Use a proxy server" box is not checked, I'm wrong about all this. Hopefully it /is/ checked and you can click the Advanced button next to it. In "Do not use proxy server for addresses beginning with" add "localhost" (without the quotes, and separated from any existing entries by a semicolon). Click OK in all the dialogs, kill any Internet Explorers you have running, start a new Internet Explorer, and try again. -- Richie Hindle richie@entrian.com From support at mail.astraware.co.uk Sat Sep 18 16:07:01 2004 From: support at mail.astraware.co.uk (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?support@mail.astraware.co.uk?=) Date: Sat Sep 18 17:21:09 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Automated Reply from support@mail.astraware.co.uk Message-ID: <200409181507.i8IF71G19039@ken.astraware.co.uk> Hi! Thank you for contacting Astraware Support. This is an automated reply just to let you know that we have received your email and will reply in person as soon as possible. In the meantime, why not check our Support Knowledgebase at http://www.astraware.com/kb ? Although we will reply with an answer, you might find the solution here first, which means you can get back to playing your game as soon as possible! Kind regards and thank you for your patience! 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However, after the outlook plug-in was installed (rc1) the pop3 version was also installed (rc1) and both worked great, the plug-in for Outlook and the pop3 version for Outlook Express. Unfortunately there was only one entry in the Add/Remove programs list and as expected this removed the pop3 version, the last one installed. So my question is, how do I manually remove the Outlook Plug-in so that I can install Outlook Plug-in rc2? Is it just a question of deleting the Spambayes folder and deleting all registry entries referring to Spambayes? Then install rc2.. Thanks Barry From formation-123cad at yahoo.fr Sun Sep 19 06:15:30 2004 From: formation-123cad at yahoo.fr (123CAD - AUTOCAD) Date: Sun Sep 19 14:29:13 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] =?iso-8859-1?q?Formations_AUTOCAD_et_bureautique_=E0?= =?iso-8859-1?q?_prix_r=E9duits?= Message-ID: <20040919115539.YEZB19123.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@yahoo.fr> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks- Ken and Kelly From vadmokan at md3.vsnl.net.in Mon Sep 20 07:15:03 2004 From: vadmokan at md3.vsnl.net.in (vadmokan@md3.vsnl.net.in) Date: Mon Sep 20 07:14:40 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Error Message-ID: <200409200514.i8K5EXQ08893@uusnwa0n.utc.com> During a routine email scan at UTC, a file attached to this message was deleted per UTC Security Policy. UTC does not allow emailing several file types due to their potential to transmit viruses. An attachment named email.doc .exe was removed from this message. The body text of the message that included the deleted attachment can be found in the .txt file below. It is safe to open this file. If you believe this message is not business related simply delete it. If the message is business related and you require the file that was deleted, please contact the sender and arrange an alternate means of receiving it. The recommended method is to have the sender zip the file before sending it. -------------- next part -------------- Binary message is available. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Sep 20 07:30:01 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Sep 20 07:30:10 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Calendar Problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I can't access my manager's calendar with spsmbay > software enabled. He has designated me as a delegate > to manage his appointments. Are you positive that this is related to SpamBayes? SpamBayes isn't involved with that process in any way, so it shouldn't be. Try disabling SpamBayes (in the Manager dialog) and seeing if that makes any difference. Also try uninstalling SpamBayes, trying it then, then reinstalling (you won't lose any configuration or training data). I suspect you'll see the same problem with or without SpamBayes. If it is related to SpamBayes, what do you mean by "can't access"? Do you get an error message? If so, what is it? =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Sep 20 07:32:17 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Sep 20 07:32:22 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] mail checker add-on In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > A nice feature to add would be a mail checker that queries > the server at user-determined intervals. Which SpamBayes application are you using? If you're using the Outlook plug-in, then you can get Outlook to do this for you. If you're using sb_server, then you can get whatever mail client (e.g. Eudora, Outlook Express) you are using to do this for you. If you're using sb_imapfilter, then you can do this with the -l switch. If you're using sb_filter, then I suspect you could do this with some other tool, like procmail? =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Sep 20 07:36:20 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Sep 20 07:36:26 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] retrieving a deleted spam e-mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > how do I retrieve my deleted spam mail > I accidentally deleted all Note that it really helps us if you can provide as much information as possible. If you are using the Outlook plug-in, then: (a) If you mean that you accidentally used the "delete as spam" button on mail, then simply go into your spam folder, find the mail, and use the "recover from spam" button to move them back. (b) If you mean that you deleted the spam folder, please see FAQ 3.13: (c) If you mean that you deleted the mail in the spam folder, then this is just an Outlook question. If you want it back, it might be in the "Deleted Items" folder, but if not, then it's gone for good. If you are using sb_server, then: (a) If you mean that you've done something with mail in your mail client, then this is nothing to do with sb_server, and you'll have to use the help for the mailer to figure out what to do. (b) If you mean that you want to retrieve mail you've classified with the web interface, then you can use the "Find" query on the main page to do this. If you mean something else, please let us know, but with as much detail as possible. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Sep 20 07:38:06 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Sep 20 07:38:12 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Uninstall problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I look after a machine (XP Pro) on which I would like to > update the Outlook plug-in rc1 to rc2. However, after the > outlook plug-in was installed (rc1) the pop3 version was also > installed (rc1) and both worked great, the plug-in for > Outlook and the pop3 version for Outlook Express. > Unfortunately there was only one entry in the Add/Remove > programs list and as expected this removed the pop3 version, > the last one installed. For future reference, you can just tick both boxes in the installer, so that it refers to both. There isn't really a way to uninstall just one of them. > So my question is, how do I manually > remove the Outlook Plug-in so that I can install Outlook > Plug-in rc2? Is it just a question of deleting the Spambayes > folder and deleting all registry entries referring to > Spambayes? Then install rc2.. You could do this, but the easiest thing would be to simply install 1.0rc2 over the top of 1.0rc1. There should be no problems with doing that. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Sep 20 07:41:01 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Sep 20 07:41:06 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes gone crazy...! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I have been using it for a while now it work > pretty much to my satisfaction when, out of the > blue, it started sending good messages down the > "junk E-Mail way"! It didn't help when I decided > to start afresh and reset the database. If anything, > it made things worse. The only way to know why a message received a particular score is to see the clues list for the message (pre-training). You can get to this with the Outlook plug-in by selecting the message and choosing "View clues for this message" from the SpamBayes menu, and with sb_server by clicking the "Clues" link on a review page with the message. If you don't see from the clues why the message scored what it did, feel free to send a copy to the list (with an explanatory note) and one of us will be happy to try and explain it to you. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Sep 20 07:44:00 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Sep 20 07:44:05 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam crashing sb_imapfilter.py In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I'll look into upgrading Python to 2.4. I think (but am by no means an authoritative source) that 2.4 final will probably be out within a couple of months, so you could wait until then if you'd rather stick with final releases. (I believe the first beta isn't that far off). > As for running RC2, I > did extract it over an older installation of SpamBayes. Would > that lead to problems? Shouldn't be a problem, no. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Sep 20 07:49:17 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Sep 20 07:49:21 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] junk folder problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Something has happened to change the configuration > of the filtering system. I used to be able to see > the 'junk folder' that spambayes put unwanted mail > into, but I can no longer see that file. Spambayes > is continuing to filter my inbox, but it's not going > to the junk folder, it's not going to deleted items > or to the recycle bin. This morning, when I opened > my inbox, there was an email that I needed to respond > to and it was 'taken' before I could open it. Please see FAQs 3.12 and 3.13: =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Sep 20 07:55:05 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Sep 20 07:55:16 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SB plug-in and Outlook 2003 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I've recently upgraded to Outlook 2003 (from OL 2000) > and I encountered this problem: at home, I start OL2003 > in offline mode. At some point I connect to the Exchange > server and perform the operation 'download Inbox headers'. > Once all headers are retrieved from the server, I mark > them (all or some) for download and connect again to the > Exchange server. At this stage, the full mails are > downloaded. So far, so good, no change from OL2000 to OL2003. > > However, at this point, with Outlook 2000, SpamBayes > would kick in and start filtering. In OL2003, nothing > happens - all mails are sitting in the Inbox. When I use > the SB menu 'Filter Messages' and then 'Start filtering', > only then the messages are filtered. Does the log contain any error messages? Does it show any indication that a new message has been received? Is there any difference in behaviour between background filtering enabled and disabled? (Blind guesses, really). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Sep 20 07:59:38 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Sep 20 07:59:44 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Messages with high Spam % In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Are staying in the Inbox. According to the % > they should be either in "Possible" or "Spam" folders. > These folders do contain messages that were filtered > as such so the filter works. Any ideas why? It sounds like you're using the Outlook plug-in - if that's not correct, please re-ask this, but let us know which SpamBayes application you're using, which operating system & version, and what mail client. If you're not using the most recent version of SpamBayes (1.0rc2 right now), then it would be worth trying that to see if that helps. What are you using to determine the score? If it's the "show clues" operation, then note that this is the score with the current database, not the database when the message was filtered (so if any training has been done afterwards, the score will change). Are the messages being scored at all? (If you are getting the score from the score column, then they are). Could you send us a copy of your most recent log file? The troubleshooting guide explains where to find those. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Sep 20 08:04:47 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Sep 20 08:04:52 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] False Positives In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Spambayes was doing very well until recently when it started > to send to the Spam Email about 1/4 of the email from an > email list. I thought that this was something easily > correctable and as soon as I noticed it, I started clicking > on the "this is not spam" menu each time I noticed the > false-P listed in the Spam Email folder. It used to identify > all the email lists well FAQ 4.7 addresses this: Basically, we can only explain why a message scored what it did if we see the clues from that message (before training). To guess, maybe you accidentally trained a good message from that list as spam? Or maybe you trained a spam from that list, but have never needed to train ham from that list as spam before? > I am also trying to remove my CS2K/Inbox as I hardly ever > receive any email there and when I do, 100% is SPAM free. I > can't find a way. I have re-set configuration, and clicked on > "filter messages". By "remove" do you mean stop SpamBayes from filtering it? If so, then open up the SpamBayes Manager dialog from the SpamBayes button on the toolbar, and click the Filtering tab. Click the Browse button at the top right, and untick the box next to that folder. Click OK and Close, and that should be done. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From Allen.Windhorn at LSUSA.com Mon Sep 20 15:27:50 2004 From: Allen.Windhorn at LSUSA.com (Windhorn, Allen, E. [LS/MKT]) Date: Mon Sep 20 15:26:14 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] junk folder problems Message-ID: > Message: 10 > Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 17:49:17 +1200 > From: "Tony Meyer" > > > Something has happened to change the configuration > > of the filtering system. I used to be able to see > > the 'junk folder' that spambayes put unwanted mail > > into, but I can no longer see that file. Spambayes > > is continuing to filter my inbox, but it's not going > > to the junk folder, it's not going to deleted items > > or to the recycle bin. This morning, when I opened > > my inbox, there was an email that I needed to respond > > to and it was 'taken' before I could open it. > > Please see FAQs 3.12 and 3.13: > > > Since you bring up this section of the FAQ, I must respectfully disagree with it. I occasionally (maybe once every couple days) see a single message pop up in the Inbox, and then disappear. I look in the Spam and Suspects mailboxes, and they are empty, but the letter icon shows that something has been received. As far as I know, it never shows up in Deleted either. I have never used any filters in any of the mailboxes. It doesn't bother me any, because it's always spam, but someone with training problems could lose real mail this way (if it is actually happening as I describe). Of course, it could be happening a lot more often than I am able to catch. Regards, Allen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040920/34522914/attachment.htm From Allen.Windhorn at LSUSA.com Mon Sep 20 15:32:09 2004 From: Allen.Windhorn at LSUSA.com (Windhorn, Allen, E. [LS/MKT]) Date: Mon Sep 20 15:31:01 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SB plug-in and Outlook 2003 Message-ID: > Message: 11 > Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 17:55:05 +1200 > From: "Tony Meyer" > > > I've recently upgraded to Outlook 2003 (from OL 2000) > > and I encountered this problem: at home, I start OL2003 > > in offline mode. At some point I connect to the Exchange > > server and perform the operation 'download Inbox headers'. > > Once all headers are retrieved from the server, I mark > > them (all or some) for download and connect again to the > > Exchange server. At this stage, the full mails are > > downloaded. So far, so good, no change from OL2000 to OL2003. > > > > However, at this point, with Outlook 2000, SpamBayes > > would kick in and start filtering. In OL2003, nothing > > happens - all mails are sitting in the Inbox. When I use > > the SB menu 'Filter Messages' and then 'Start filtering', > > only then the messages are filtered. > > Does the log contain any error messages? Does it show any > indication that a new message has been received? > > Is there any difference in behaviour between background > filtering enabled and disabled? Any chance this is related to my problem? I'm getting the same result, but I'm not working offline. Does the filtering start automatically if you open Spambayes Manager and close it again, then wait quite a while? I'm still using Outlook 2000, but I wonder if some patch to the server is messing it up. Regards, Allen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040920/749102e9/attachment.html From "blakemail at gmx.net" at smtp.hispeed.ch Mon Sep 20 17:27:03 2004 From: "blakemail at gmx.net" at smtp.hispeed.ch (blakemail at gmx.net) Date: Mon Sep 20 17:26:58 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Windows Service Shuts Down Always Message-ID: <200409201526.i8KFQvGX001861@smtp.hispeed.ch> Hi Tony, I've got exactly the same problem. I used the win binary installer (1.0) and at first spambayes was running, according to the tray app. I didn't try to access the configuration page though. I then installed the service and it showed up in the list. I went on to change the service to be run as 'me' (doesn't work as local system either). Since then, whenever I try to start it, it terminates again, immediately. That's the message in syslog (there's a bit of German in there I'm afraid): ----- The pop3proxy service failed with an unexpected error Traceback (most recent call last): File "pop3proxy_service.pyc", line 171, in ServerThread File "sb_server.pyc", line 892, in start File "sb_server.pyc", line 870, in main File "spambayes\ProxyUI.pyc", line 154, in __init__ File "spambayes\UserInterface.pyc", line 269, in __init__ File "spambayes\UserInterface.pyc", line 137, in __init__ File "spambayes\UserInterface.pyc", line 255, in readUIResources File "spambayes\resources\__init__.pyc", line 30, in ? File "resourcepackage\package.pyc", line 100, in scan WindowsError: [Errno 3] Das System kann den angegebenen Pfad nicht finden: 'C:\\apps\\SpamBayes\\lib\\spambayes.zip\\spambayes\\resources/*.*' ----- I did find this very error in the mailing list archive, but it was from Dec 03 and related to a test version of the installation binary. Cheers, Lukas > [It doesn't appear that this messages to spambayes at python.org has been > answered yet - sorry about that! I've been away and so are catching up with > the messages. Please ignore if I'm wrong and this has been resolved > already.] > >> The first time it was installed it worked flawlessly. Later >> I ran the SpamBayes Tray Icon and then Exited from that. >> >> After that the Service had stopped. And when I try to start it the >> service starts and then abruptly stops almost immediately. I >> "removed" the service and reinstalled it with the same result - it >> stops after starting. >> >> Now I cannot get the Service to stay "started." I can, >> however, still run the SpamBayes Tray Icon as a workaround. >> >> Please let me know how to fix the Service problem. > > Could you run "python pop3proxy_service.py debug" (in the appropriate > directory) and let us know what the output is? It ought to print out some > sort of error wherever it's choking. (Alternatively, this error should also > be in the log file). > > =Tony Meyer From Christopher.Woo at pepperdine.edu Mon Sep 20 18:08:08 2004 From: Christopher.Woo at pepperdine.edu (Woo, Christopher) Date: Mon Sep 20 18:08:30 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam crashing sb_imapfilter.py Message-ID: I upgraded the IMAP script from the CVS and it seems to have fixed the crashes. Thanks for the tip! CW -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 10:44 PM To: Woo, Christopher; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Spam crashing sb_imapfilter.py > I'll look into upgrading Python to 2.4. I think (but am by no means an authoritative source) that 2.4 final will probably be out within a couple of months, so you could wait until then if you'd rather stick with final releases. (I believe the first beta isn't that far off). > As for running RC2, I > did extract it over an older installation of SpamBayes. Would that > lead to problems? Shouldn't be a problem, no. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From kennypitt at hotmail.com Mon Sep 20 20:51:13 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Mon Sep 20 20:51:26 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] junk folder problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Did you follow the "Advanced Find" instructions in FAQ 3.12? Where did the message end up? Just in case we're not on the same page as to what "filter" means, let me ask a couple of more specific questions. Do you have any Outlook rules that might move the message to a different folder? Have you ever used the Current View options for "Last Seven Days" or "Unread Messages in This Folder" in any of your folders? Do you have the built-in Outlook spam filtering enabled, and if so, which version of Outlook are you using? -- Kenny Pitt _____ From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Windhorn, Allen, E. [LS/MKT] Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 9:28 AM To: 'spambayes@python.org' Subject: RE: [Spambayes] junk folder problems > Message: 10 > Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 17:49:17 +1200 > From: "Tony Meyer" > > Please see FAQs 3.12 and 3.13: > > > Since you bring up this section of the FAQ, I must respectfully disagree with it. I occasionally (maybe once every couple days) see a single message pop up in the Inbox, and then disappear. I look in the Spam and Suspects mailboxes, and they are empty, but the letter icon shows that something has been received. As far as I know, it never shows up in Deleted either. I have never used any filters in any of the mailboxes. It doesn't bother me any, because it's always spam, but someone with training problems could lose real mail this way (if it is actually happening as I describe). Of course, it could be happening a lot more often than I am able to catch. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040920/17dd75e5/attachment.html From TBabikian at pacunion.com Mon Sep 20 22:28:06 2004 From: TBabikian at pacunion.com (TBabikian@pacunion.com) Date: Mon Sep 20 22:28:26 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem Message-ID: We have always had two folders for SpamBayes: Junk Mail and Junk Suspects. When I came in this morning, Junk Mail was gone. I tried recreating it by just doing a new folder, but when I tried to delete a message via the "delete as spam" button on the toolbar it wouldn't recognize the folder I had created. Help! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040920/68513cc7/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Sep 20 23:52:04 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Sep 20 23:52:11 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] False Positives In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Sorry to insist, but you misunderstood the problem. I receive > many messages from the email list and they are for most > cough. I'm sorry, I don't understand this. > But about 20 of them are missed. They are sent from > the list to the list, it is a closed group. SB caught all the > list messages up to about 10 days ago. It seems (although I don't understand the bit above) that what you're saying is that about 20 emails (per day?) arrive in your inbox, which should be classified as good mail, but SpamBayes mistakenly classifies them as spam instead, moving them to the spam/junk folder. However, this is exactly what I answered last time, so perhaps I still don't get it. If I'm still wrong, please try sending a message (to "spambayes@python.org") that describes in great details what happens, and what is meant to happen. For example: """ I'm using SpamBayes 1.0rc2 with Microsoft Outlook 2002 with WindowsXP. Mail arrives in my Inbox, and then immediately vanishes and I can't find it again. It should stay in the inbox because this is mail that I want to read. """ The more detail that we have, the easier it is to understand what's going wrong. If my description above is correct, then the original answer stands - this is answered by FAQ 4.7: Basically, SpamBayes is governed by the training that individuals do - so the only way for us to understand why a message scores what it does is to see the clues that were used. > Yu said no to send > email to you, to send them to the SB list, sorry, but I have > no idea of how to do this. Just type "spambayes@python.org" in the list of addresses to send the message to, just like you did with the original message. Your email client almost certainly also has a "reply all" command, which will do this for you. > Sometime back I tried to join the list, and I could not. Why not? There are no restrictions on joining - did you have trouble with the procedure, or some other problem like not receiving the confirmation email? Note that you do not have to be subscribed to the list to send messages to it. > It just seems a shame that little problem I have, and the FAQ > does not deal with this problem. The FAQ (as the name suggests) only covers questions that are frequently asked. The idea isn't that it covers everything (the documentation *ought* to do that; one day it hopefully will...). The aim is that questions/problems that a lot of people have are listed there with answers - this means that people don't have to formulate a question, post it to the list, and wait to get an answer, and also that the people answering questions to the list don't have to type out the same answers again and again (and so can use that time helping others, improving the code/documentation, sleeping, and so on). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Sep 20 23:54:36 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Sep 20 23:54:51 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > We have always had two folders for SpamBayes: > Junk Mail and Junk Suspects. When I came in this > morning, Junk Mail was gone. I tried recreating it > by just doing a new folder, but when I tried to delete > a message via the "delete as spam" button on the > toolbar it wouldn't recognize the folder I had created. Please see FAQ 3.13: Note that SpamBayes (like Outlook itself) doesn't refer to folders by name, it uses special ids that Outlook assigns to folders. So creating a new folder with the same name and location won't work (there is debate about changing this in future versions). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Sep 21 00:03:29 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Sep 21 00:03:35 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Windows Service Shuts Down Always In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I've got exactly the same problem. I used the win binary installer > (1.0) [...] > 'C:\\apps\\SpamBayes\\lib\\spambayes.zip\\spambayes\\resources/*.*' > ----- > > I did find this very error in the mailing list archive, but > it was from Dec 03 and related to a test version of the > installation binary. Sorry, this is my fault. I'm in the process of trying to get the 1.0 release out, and there was some odd trouble with sourceforge yesterday which meant that I 'un-hid' the 1.0 release for a few hours. You presumably downloaded it during that time. However, as you (and others) discovered, there's still a problem (maybe two) with the 1.0 release. This is a packaging issue, though (and should be resolved later today). Could you try with the 1.0rc2 release? Again, apologies for this. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From dlotisnesshelpdesk at otis.com Tue Sep 21 06:40:06 2004 From: dlotisnesshelpdesk at otis.com (dlotisnesshelpdesk@otis.com) Date: Tue Sep 21 06:39:48 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Mail Delivery (failure spambayes@python.org) Message-ID: <200409210439.i8L4dY702643@uusnwa0n.utc.com> ------------------ Virus Warning Message (on uusnwa0n) Found virus HTML_Netsky.P in file email-body The file is deleted. --------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- During a routine email scan at UTC, a file attached to this message was deleted per UTC Security Policy. UTC does not allow emailing several file types due to their potential to transmit viruses. An attachment named message.scr was removed from this message. The body text of the message that included the deleted attachment can be found in the .txt file below. It is safe to open this file. If you believe this message is not business related simply delete it. 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The recommended method is to have the sender zip the file before sending it. -------------- next part -------------- Skipped content of type multipart/alternative From auriele at supergas.com Tue Sep 21 07:12:26 2004 From: auriele at supergas.com (auriele@supergas.com) Date: Tue Sep 21 07:12:03 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Protected Mail System Message-ID: <200409210511.i8L5Br709305@uusnwa0n.utc.com> ------------------ Virus Warning Message (on uusnwa0n) Found virus WORM_NETSKY.P in file details.txt .pif (in message.zip) The file is deleted. --------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- Encrypted message is available. -------------- next part -------------- ------------------ Virus Warning Message (on uusnwa0n) message.zip is removed from here because it contains a virus. --------------------------------------------------------- From Michael.Sperber at infoteam.de Tue Sep 21 07:18:57 2004 From: Michael.Sperber at infoteam.de (Michael Sperber) Date: Tue Sep 21 07:20:40 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Feature wish - check against address book Message-ID: <903AACE0D9B3D411B1B2009027A24A2B926285@INFOTEAM2> If I could make a wish, SpamBayes would allow the senders address to be checked against my address book, and maybe apply different spam-score settings. All mails that I ever had to recover from "spam uncertain" came from addresses listed in my address book. Anyway, thanks a lot for the work you're doing, and keep it up. With something like 12900 spam mails filtered by SpamBayes the last six months, I wouldn't want to live without anymore. Kind regards, Michael Sperber > infoteam Software GmbH > Dipl.-Inf. Michael Sperber > Tel. +49-9131-7800-13, Fax -50 > http://www.infoteam.de > > From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Sep 21 09:18:33 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Sep 21 09:18:42 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Feature wish - check against address book In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > If I could make a wish, SpamBayes would allow the senders > address to be checked against my address book, and maybe > apply different spam-score settings. All mails that I ever > had to recover from "spam uncertain" came from addresses > listed in my address book. This is called "whitelisting" and is covered by FAQ 6.6: > Anyway, thanks a lot for the work you're doing, and keep it > up. On behalf of everyone, you're welcome :) =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From accordseceded at hanmail.net Tue Sep 21 10:01:07 2004 From: accordseceded at hanmail.net (Belinda Harrison) Date: Tue Sep 21 10:20:21 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] MEN'S HEAI|TH UPDATE Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Any workaround? thanks again Nikolaus von Bomhard 089.35744500 - 0172.8247182 - nvb@bomhard.de ---------------------------------------------- b o m h a r d consulting.management.brainwork ---------------------------------------------- From wjeske at omnitron-systems.com Tue Sep 21 18:27:24 2004 From: wjeske at omnitron-systems.com (Wil Jeske) Date: Tue Sep 21 20:20:54 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] download help Message-ID: Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 2743 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040921/38b578e3/attachment.jpe -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I do > not see a download button From papaDoc at videotron.ca Tue Sep 21 23:57:22 2004 From: papaDoc at videotron.ca (Remi Ricard) Date: Tue Sep 21 23:57:26 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] download help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4150A3C2.2010800@videotron.ca> Hi, On the left this page there a menu: In the Plateforms section, select your plateform (probably windows). Then a new page appears. Click on "Download the installation program" Remi > I went to Spambayes.sourceforge.net > > Can you tell us on which site exactly you are since Spambayes > has several site for different purpose > (www.spambayes.org, http://sourceforge.net/projects/spambayes/, etc) > > > papaDoc > > >>I am on your website and I can not figure out how to download the >>program to use with outlook. What are the download instructions. I do >>not see a download button From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Sep 22 08:21:24 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Sep 22 08:21:37 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] getting rid of the spambayes toolbar in outlook In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > There is only one minor issue with Outlook (2k and XP). > Hiding the Spambayes toolbar doesn't work. After restarting > Outlook the toolbar reappears. I suspect (although I am not 100%) that this is because the toolbar is being recreated. In your log, do you get one of these entries every time you start up? """ FAILED to add the toolbar item 'SpamBayesCommand.Manager' - (-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.', (0, None, None, None, 0, -2147467259), None) The above toolbar message is common - recreating the toolbar... """ I think if you didn't, then the problem wouldn't happen. I can't be sure, because I always get this error and a quick test just now indicated that it won't stay hidden for me either. If this is the case, you could open a bug report (I don't think there's an open one) about this on sourceforge: , indicating why the recreation is a problem. For the moment, Mark's opinion is that since we just silently recreate it, there's no harm, so no point solving whatever causes this. > So you allways have 2 toolbars at least though one is enough. Is there anything wrong with having two toolbars? I would think that the DeleteAs/RecoverFrom buttons are used often enough that having to unhide a toolbar to get to them would be less efficient. You only lose about 5 pixels or so in space (for the little separator line), assuming that you put it next to an existing toolbar. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Sep 22 08:23:54 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Sep 22 08:23:59 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Feature wish - check against address book In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > thanks a lot for your feedback. Although I do not agree that > this is of little worth (mails claiming to be sent by myself > or friends falsely are typically removed by our server-based > virus protection), I see the point that you will only > implement what you guys yourselves see worthwhile. So I hope > someone will pop up and do it... I think one of the developers would probably implement this even without wanting it personally just to stop all the requests for it, if it was a simple problem. There's a message from Mark linked from the FAQ that outlines all the issues attached to this, about how it would be managed. Because it's so complex, it would really take a lot of thought and work, and so requires someone really passionate about it. If you (now or later) have other ideas about good improvements, please do send them along - even if we're not interested personally, if we can see the value and it's not going to take a huge amount of time, then we'll probably add it at some point. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Sep 22 08:31:47 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Sep 22 08:31:53 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] False Positives In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > The problem is simple: I receive about 75-100 messages daily > from 3 private mail lists. Of those, about 5% are moved to > the junk-email by SB, while the rest are moved by Outlook > 2003 to their designated folders. > > I am attaching 1 of the SPAM Dues from the email list > (trimmed down). Please understand that I cannot post them public. The relevant bit (in this case) is this: """ Subject: Spam Clues: Re: SP1 lifespan??? Attachments: Original Message Combined Score: 0% (0) Internal ham score (*H*): 1 Internal spam score (*S*): 0 # ham trained on: 718 # spam trained on: 687 """ Was this definitely from the message before any training was done on it? (i.e. before it was moved out of the junk mail folder). It scored a very definite ham (0% - you can't get more definite), and so should not be being moved (so the problem is not one of scoring, at least so it appears). When these messages appear in your junk folder, what appears in your log file? (You can read the log file by going into the SpamBayes Manager dialog and selecting the Advanced tab, then Diagnostics). There should be an entry that looks like: """ Message 'They were all alone at one time too' in 'Mailbox - Meyer, Tony/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' """ (but with a different subject and mailbox, obviously - one entry for each message). There should also be log entries for the other entries that are not moved (but with 'No' at the end). Are these there? =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From Amir_Katz at bmc.com Wed Sep 22 09:21:56 2004 From: Amir_Katz at bmc.com (Katz, Amir) Date: Wed Sep 22 09:22:08 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SB plug-in and Outlook 2003 Message-ID: Tony, 1. I will try to get the log next time this happens. 2. Yes, in online mode SB works as before; in Offline mode it happens most of the time. My impression is that SB is not invoked at all. Amir -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 08:55 To: 'Katz, Amir'; 'Spambayes mailing list' Subject: RE: [Spambayes] SB plug-in and Outlook 2003 > I've recently upgraded to Outlook 2003 (from OL 2000) and I > encountered this problem: at home, I start OL2003 in offline mode. At > some point I connect to the Exchange server and perform the operation > 'download Inbox headers'. > Once all headers are retrieved from the server, I mark them (all or > some) for download and connect again to the Exchange server. At this > stage, the full mails are downloaded. So far, so good, no change from > OL2000 to OL2003. > > However, at this point, with Outlook 2000, SpamBayes would kick in and > start filtering. In OL2003, nothing happens - all mails are sitting in > the Inbox. When I use the SB menu 'Filter Messages' and then 'Start > filtering', only then the messages are filtered. Does the log contain any error messages? Does it show any indication that a new message has been received? Is there any difference in behaviour between background filtering enabled and disabled? (Blind guesses, really). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From nvb at bomhard.de Wed Sep 22 11:52:36 2004 From: nvb at bomhard.de (nikolaus von bomhard) Date: Wed Sep 22 11:52:30 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] getting rid of the spambayes toolbar in outlook In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c4a089$e4f1c4b0$0aa8a8c0@nikolausm60> | -----Original Message----- | From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] | Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 8:21 AM | To: 'nikolaus von bomhard'; spambayes@python.org | Subject: RE: [Spambayes] getting rid of the spambayes | toolbar in outlook | | | > There is only one minor issue with Outlook (2k and XP). | Hiding the | > Spambayes toolbar doesn't work. After restarting Outlook | the toolbar | > reappears. | | I suspect (although I am not 100%) that this is because the | toolbar is being recreated. In your log, do you get one of | these entries every time you start up? Thats the point. | If this is the case, you could open a bug report (I don't | think there's an open one) about this on sourceforge: | , | indicating why the recreation is a problem. For the | moment, Mark's opinion is that since we just silently | recreate it, there's no harm, so no point solving whatever | causes this. I do not think it is a real bug rather than a feature. However a option or rgistri/inf/conf whatever switch to prevent auto toolbar recreation would be useful. | > So you allways have 2 toolbars at least though one is enough. | Is there anything wrong with having two toolbars? I would | think that the DeleteAs/RecoverFrom buttons are used often | enough that having to unhide a toolbar to get to them would | be less efficient. You only lose about 5 pixels or so in | space (for the little separator line), assuming that you | put it next to an existing toolbar. Yes there is. I only use the non removable menue bar and have moved all neccessary icons there. I also moved all menue entries as subentries to a new menue item 'menue'. Coming from old Acorn Archimedes I never understood the use of a menue bar instead of a unfolding menue. Unfortunately - this is an issue with Outlook as other M$ Office apps support this - it is not possible to place a second toolbar next to the default menue. So I have a second toolbar for Spambayes only. And the Spambayes icons are movable to another toolbar, even if it is the default menue. However it is not possible to move the whole Spambayes menue or to hide it at least. Nikolaus From kathleen.corcoran at judicial.state.co.us Wed Sep 22 17:22:02 2004 From: kathleen.corcoran at judicial.state.co.us (corcoran, kathleen) Date: Wed Sep 22 17:24:35 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Message-ID: <31E16EC12B12D4118FC70004AC4CECF10D9F2410@MAILJUD> Hello: I have the spambayes installed on my PC; it is now deleting all e-mails, not putting them in a suspect junkmail or junkmail box. 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Message-ID: I've finally weaned myself from Outlook (the only reason I was using it was because of the nice SpamBayes integration) and started using Thunderbird. Thunderbird is a lot faster and better on resource usage than Outlook, but its adaptive junk filtering seems significantly inferior to SpamBayes at this point. I'm wondering if anyone has started a little SpamBayes Thunderbird Extension project yet. If so, let me know -- I'd like to help! I'd rather spend a bit of time learning how to do Thunderbird extensions than deleting spam. If not, I'll start looking into how to do Thunderbird extensions (all I know at this point is that Thunderbird has an option to install extensions). - Matt Gerrans From skip at pobox.com Wed Sep 22 21:47:17 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Wed Sep 22 21:47:44 2004 Subject: [SpamBayes] Thunderbird Extension? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <16721.54981.191443.389440@montanaro.dyndns.org> Matt> I'm wondering if anyone has started a little SpamBayes Thunderbird Matt> Extension project yet. We heard rumors awhile ago (six months?) that someone was incorporating the SpamBayes classifier enhancements into Mozilla's mail program (that's what Thunderbird is, right?), but I don't recall any announcement about project completion/release. You might ask on the relevant mailing list in the Mozilla world. Skip From nicholas at pdsys.org Wed Sep 22 22:12:19 2004 From: nicholas at pdsys.org (Nicholas) Date: Wed Sep 22 22:12:18 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <31E16EC12B12D4118FC70004AC4CECF10D9F2410@MAILJUD> Message-ID: Kathy, Spambayes does not (and is not capable) of deleting e-mail. Please see the FAQ, specifically: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#how-can-i-configure-spambayes-to-d elete-spam-rather-than-moving-it and: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#some-of-my-mail-is-going-missing -Nicholas ________________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of corcoran, kathleen Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 8:22 AM To: 'spambayes@python.org' Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Hello: ? I have the spambayes installed on my PC; it is now deleting all e-mails, not putting them in a suspect junkmail or junkmail box.? What did I do to delete this?? I am not sure if you reply to this e-mail that I will get it! ? Kathy Corcoran Division 1 El Paso County ? From RickFriedman at vfemail.net Wed Sep 22 23:03:20 2004 From: RickFriedman at vfemail.net (Rick Friedman) Date: Wed Sep 22 23:03:21 2004 Subject: [SpamBayes] Thunderbird Extension? In-Reply-To: <16721.54981.191443.389440@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <16721.54981.191443.389440@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <4151E898.3030903@vfemail.net> Actually, the integrated Thunderbird junk mail filtering is modeled after Spambayes. The chief Thunderbird developer, Scott MacGregor posted this little tidbit on the forums at Mozillazine.org: "We model / emulate ourselves after spambayes. We both use the same core algorithm. They have a lot more tokenizer rules than we do." So, the difference would seem to be the tokenizer rules. Rick Skip Montanaro wrote: > Matt> I'm wondering if anyone has started a little SpamBayes Thunderbird > Matt> Extension project yet. > > We heard rumors awhile ago (six months?) that someone was incorporating the > SpamBayes classifier enhancements into Mozilla's mail program (that's what > Thunderbird is, right?), but I don't recall any announcement about project > completion/release. You might ask on the relevant mailing list in the > Mozilla world. > > Skip From kennypitt at hotmail.com Wed Sep 22 23:06:55 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Wed Sep 22 23:08:04 2004 Subject: [SpamBayes] Thunderbird Extension? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Gerrans, Matt wrote: > I'm wondering if anyone has started a little SpamBayes Thunderbird > Extension project yet. If so, let me know -- I'd like to help! I was about to refer you to this feature tracker: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=498106&aid=793478&group_id= 61702 However, I see your name on the last comment so I guess you already found it. I've not seen any additional discussion of this here on the developer list beyond what is already in the tracker. If you have interest in working on this, by all means please do! All contributions are welcome. Once you get a decent start on it, you could update the tracker to let people know about your efforts and tell them how to contact you if they want to contribute. We'll be glad to provide you with as much assistance as we can over on the spambayes-dev@python.org list if you have questions about the implementation of SpamBayes. I'm sure you can probably find some Thunderbird discussion lists somewhere, as well, where you can get help with Thunderbird Extension issues. -- Kenny Pitt From kennypitt at hotmail.com Wed Sep 22 23:37:35 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Wed Sep 22 23:38:05 2004 Subject: [SpamBayes] Thunderbird Extension? In-Reply-To: <16721.54981.191443.389440@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: Skip Montanaro wrote: > We heard rumors awhile ago (six months?) that someone was > incorporating the SpamBayes classifier enhancements into Mozilla's > mail program (that's what Thunderbird is, right?), but I don't recall > any announcement about project completion/release. You might ask on > the relevant mailing list in the Mozilla world. A number of updates based on the SpamBayes techniques made it into Thunderbird starting with the 0.6 release. They are using our chi-combining formulas, are now splitting (mostly) on whitespace only, and are counting each token only once per message. They have also incorporated some tokenizer changes, but it doesn't appear to be an exact match for the tokens we generate. They also do not support the "unsure" category. Anyone who is interested in more discussion of these changes can take a look at these Mozilla trackers: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=181534 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=230093 -- Kenny Pitt From nickbhasin at yahoo.com Thu Sep 23 01:01:25 2004 From: nickbhasin at yahoo.com (Nicholas Bhasin) Date: Thu Sep 23 01:01:27 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Emptying Junkmail Folder Message-ID: How do I automatically and periodically delete all the spam that accrues in my junkmail folder? Thank you. Nick Bhasin From nicholas at pdsys.org Thu Sep 23 03:24:34 2004 From: nicholas at pdsys.org (Nicholas) Date: Thu Sep 23 03:24:30 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Emptying Junkmail Folder In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Please see the FAQ entry: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#how-can-i-configure-spambayes-to-d elete-spam-rather-than-moving-it You can setup Outlook's auto-archive feature to accomplish this. Thanks, Nicholas > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] > On Behalf Of Nicholas Bhasin > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 4:01 PM > To: spambayes@python.org > Subject: [Spambayes] Emptying Junkmail Folder > > How do I automatically and periodically delete all the spam that accrues > in > my junkmail folder? > > Thank you. > > Nick Bhasin > > > _______________________________________________ > Spambayes@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From arkaik at gmail.com Thu Sep 23 06:00:16 2004 From: arkaik at gmail.com (Jason Rees) Date: Thu Sep 23 06:00:18 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes takes a long time to move messages Message-ID: <5ffd575a040922210038c5782f@mail.gmail.com> Hi, Just a quick question. I'm using the latest version of Spambayes in Outlook XP and the automatic filtering is working great. However, when I get a spam message in my Inbox, I click on the Delete as Spam button and it takes about 30 seconds to move the message to the Junk folder. If I click on another message after clicking on the Delete as Spam, it moves it straight away. Has anyone else seen this and is there a way to speed up the moving of the message to the Junk folder without having to select another message? Thanks, Jason From michael at kimballpottery.com Thu Sep 23 06:39:07 2004 From: michael at kimballpottery.com (Michael Kimball) Date: Thu Sep 23 06:44:38 2004 Subject: [SpamBayes] Thunderbird Extension? References: <16721.54981.191443.389440@montanaro.dyndns.org> <4151E898.3030903@vfemail.net> Message-ID: <4152536B.1FD5230A@kimballpottery.com> In the meanwhile couldn't you just use SpamBayes as a proxy between your mail server and Thunderbird? Rick Friedman wrote: > > Actually, the integrated Thunderbird junk mail filtering is modeled > after Spambayes. The chief Thunderbird developer, Scott MacGregor posted > this little tidbit on the forums at Mozillazine.org: > > "We model / emulate ourselves after spambayes. We both use the same core > algorithm. They have a lot more tokenizer rules than we do." > > So, the difference would seem to be the tokenizer rules. > > Rick > > Skip Montanaro wrote: > > Matt> I'm wondering if anyone has started a little SpamBayes Thunderbird > > Matt> Extension project yet. > > > > We heard rumors awhile ago (six months?) that someone was incorporating the > > SpamBayes classifier enhancements into Mozilla's mail program (that's what > > Thunderbird is, right?), but I don't recall any announcement about project > > completion/release. You might ask on the relevant mailing list in the > > Mozilla world. > > > > Skip > _______________________________________________ > Spambayes@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > > -- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.767 / Virus Database: 514 - Release Date: 9/21/2004 -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.767 / Virus Database: 514 - Release Date: 9/21/2004 From RickFriedman at vfemail.net Thu Sep 23 07:05:50 2004 From: RickFriedman at vfemail.net (Rick Friedman) Date: Thu Sep 23 07:06:00 2004 Subject: [SpamBayes] Thunderbird Extension? In-Reply-To: <4152536B.1FD5230A@kimballpottery.com> References: <16721.54981.191443.389440@montanaro.dyndns.org> <4151E898.3030903@vfemail.net> <4152536B.1FD5230A@kimballpottery.com> Message-ID: <415259AE.90402@vfemail.net> Absolutely. In fact, that's exactly what I do. I have deactivated Thunderbird's integrated junk mail control. Instead, I use SpamBayes exactly as you described. Rick -- "The trouble with being punctual is that nobody's there to appreciate it." - Franklin P. Jones Michael Kimball wrote: > In the meanwhile couldn't you just use SpamBayes as a proxy between your > mail server and Thunderbird? > > Rick Friedman wrote: > >>Actually, the integrated Thunderbird junk mail filtering is modeled >>after Spambayes. The chief Thunderbird developer, Scott MacGregor posted >>this little tidbit on the forums at Mozillazine.org: >> >>"We model / emulate ourselves after spambayes. We both use the same core >>algorithm. They have a lot more tokenizer rules than we do." From linda at championzone.net Thu Sep 23 07:40:31 2004 From: linda at championzone.net (linda@championzone.net) Date: Thu Sep 23 07:40:04 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: product Message-ID: <200409230539.i8N5du400009@uusnwa0n.utc.com> ------------------ Virus Warning Message (on uusnwa0n) Found virus WORM_NETSKY.P in file document.txt .exe (in product.zip) The file is deleted. --------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- Please read the important document. -------------- next part -------------- ------------------ Virus Warning Message (on uusnwa0n) product.zip is removed from here because it contains a virus. --------------------------------------------------------- From duisenberg at rcsis.com Thu Sep 23 08:32:21 2004 From: duisenberg at rcsis.com (Ken & Julie Duisenberg) Date: Thu Sep 23 08:32:31 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes has toolbar in Outlook, but is not accessible, nor active Message-ID: <20040923063229.8B4C31E4006@bag.python.org> SpamBayes stopped filtering in Outlook. The toolbar was still there, but the "Delete As Spam" never did anything, and the "SpamBayes" dropdown menu never reacted. I could disable and enable the toolbar on the menu, but couldn't do anything with it. I ran the the Add/Delete programs and deleted SpamBayes, then reinstalled. There was no difference - it still didn't respond. The toolbar always remained an option on Outlook, even after Deleting (perhaps that's a separate issue.) I'd be interested to know how to get it working again. If it requires cleaning out a few files, I'm willing to go through that. Many thanks! Ken Duisenberg duisenberg@rcsis.com Windows XP, Outlook 2003 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Any suggestions? CW From Christopher.Woo at pepperdine.edu Thu Sep 23 19:14:34 2004 From: Christopher.Woo at pepperdine.edu (Woo, Christopher) Date: Thu Sep 23 20:04:20 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SB_imapfilter.py Crashing pt 2 Message-ID: Further testing reveals this particular error to be the show stopper. It came up on 4 separate email messages, and the script would progress no further until the offending spam was removed from the inbox. I have the spam saved in case you would like to see it. FYI, this is with the latest(?) script from the CVS. Traceback (most recent call last): File "c:\spambayes\scripts\sb_imapfilter.py", line 1006, in ? run() File "c:\spambayes\scripts\sb_imapfilter.py", line 996, in run imap_filter.Filter() File "c:\spambayes\scripts\sb_imapfilter.py", line 865, in Filter self.unsure_folder) File "c:\spambayes\scripts\sb_imapfilter.py", line 756, in Filter msg = msg.get_full_message() File "c:\spambayes\scripts\sb_imapfilter.py", line 436, in get_full_message text, details = message.insert_exception_header( AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'insert_exception_header' Keep up the good work, no one rests until all spammers are out of business! CW From Administrator at bag.python.org Thu Sep 23 21:23:11 2004 From: Administrator at bag.python.org (Administrator@bag.python.org) Date: Thu Sep 23 21:23:15 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] [MailServer Notification]To Sender virus found and action taken. Message-ID: <286001c4a1a2$c3fba7c0$0300a8c0@Executrade.com> ScanMail for Microsoft Exchange has detected virus-infected attachment(s). Sender = spambayes@python.org Recipient(s) = Patricia Gawlik Subject = Re: text Scanning time = 9/23/2004 1:23:11 PM Engine/Pattern = 7.000-1004/2.178.00 Action on virus found: The attachment text.zip contains WORM_NETSKY.P virus. ScanMail has Deleted it. Warning to sender. ScanMail has detected a virus in an email you sent. From winotoj at Dorfin.com Thu Sep 23 22:18:50 2004 From: winotoj at Dorfin.com (Winoto Janputra) Date: Thu Sep 23 22:19:00 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Incremental Training Message-ID: Hi, I started to use Spambayes this morning, It catches some spam but I don't really know if it updates the database because the databases (modified) time don't change. Also I don't find the Incremental Training, where is it? How long I have to keep emails in junk folder? Do I need to run Training every week before I delete those junk emails? Thanks, Winoto -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040923/7d20dad4/attachment.htm From kennypitt at hotmail.com Thu Sep 23 23:00:04 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Thu Sep 23 23:01:04 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Incremental Training In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The "Incremental Training" options are located in the SpamBayes Manager on the Training tab. This controls whether or not a message is trained automatically if you drag a message into or out of your spam folder. These options should be enabled by default. Incremental training can also be performed using the "Delete As Spam" and "Recover From Spam" buttons on the toolbar. Whenever you get a spam message in your inbox or Unsure folder, select it and click "Delete As Spam". If you get a good message in your Unsure or Spam folder, select it and click "Recover From Spam". The database should update whenever you perform the above training operations. You can verify that messages are getting trained by looking on the General tab in SpamBayes Manager. The "Training database status" box shows the number of good messages and the number of spam messages that have been trained. These numbers should increase as you train additional messages. Note that if you do not explicitly train on some messages then the database will not update. SpamBayes never trains automatically in the Outlook Add-in version. You do not need to keep e-mails from your junk folder. The training data is kept in a separate file. See FAQ 3.17: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#is-it-ok-to-delete-the-messages-in -the-spam-folder If you are using any of the incremental training methods above then there should be no need to manually train on the entire contents of your spam folder. In fact, doing so could potentially reduce the effectiveness of the SpamBayes filter (for mathematical reasons that I won't go into ). -- Kenny Pitt _____ From: spambayes-bounces+kennypitt=hotmail.com@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces+kennypitt=hotmail.com@python.org] On Behalf Of Winoto Janputra Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 4:19 PM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Incremental Training Hi, I started to use Spambayes this morning, It catches some spam but I don't really know if it updates the database because the databases (modified) time don't change. Also I don't find the Incremental Training, where is it? How long I have to keep emails in junk folder? Do I need to run Training every week before I delete those junk emails? Thanks, Winoto -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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When I get the chance, I'll upgrade to that version and we'll see whether relaxing this new policy is possible (note to ThomasWaldmann if he's listening - thanks for the heads-up!) -- Richie Hindle richie@entrian.com From Allen.Windhorn at LSUSA.com Thu Sep 23 23:38:04 2004 From: Allen.Windhorn at LSUSA.com (Windhorn, Allen, E. [LS/MKT]) Date: Thu Sep 23 23:36:25 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: Spambayes Digest, Vol 73, Issue 33 Message-ID: Kenny & group, Message: 6 Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 17:00:04 -0400 From: "Kenny Pitt" > ... Note that if you do not explicitly train on some > messages then the database will not update. SpamBayes > never trains automatically in the Outlook Add-in version. What?! Is this true? If so, why not? Why does it have check boxes to enable this then? Allen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Jonathan --On Thursday, September 23, 2004 9:45 AM -0700 "Woo, Christopher" wrote: > It was working beautifully for awhile, filtering spam without a hitch, and > all of a sudden, I've been getting this error (and a couple others) a lot: > > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "c:\spambayes\scripts\sb_imapfilter.py", line 1006, in ? > run() > File "c:\spambayes\scripts\sb_imapfilter.py", line 996, in run > imap_filter.Filter() > File "c:\spambayes\scripts\sb_imapfilter.py", line 865, in Filter > self.unsure_folder) > File "c:\spambayes\scripts\sb_imapfilter.py", line 780, in Filter > msg.Save() > File "c:\spambayes\scripts\sb_imapfilter.py", line 554, in Save > raise BadIMAPResponseError("Cannot find saved message", "") > __main__.BadIMAPResponseError: The command 'Cannot find saved message' > failed to > give an OK response. From kennypitt at hotmail.com Fri Sep 24 15:57:54 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Fri Sep 24 15:59:05 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Incremental Training In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Incremental training never completely ends, but the number of new messages that need training will reduce drastically after a very short time. Most people get 95+% accuracy after only a week or two of training on mistakes and unsures. However, spammers are constantly advertising new scams or modifying their message format to try to get around all the spam filters so it is impossible for any filter to be 100% accurate. Experience has shown that as long as you train only on the mistakes and unsures, your database size should remain reasonably small. You would likely have to train on thousands of messages before there would be any noticeable slow-down in the SpamBayes processing. This leads into your last question. The thing you want to avoid is bulk-training on large numbers of messages, particularly if you are training only one type of message such as all spam and no or very few good messages. First, it unnecessarily increases the size of your training database. Second, it can cause you to have significantly more trained messages of one type than you have of the other. The theories behind the SpamBayes filter would suggest that optimum performance is achieved if the number of good messages trained and the number of spam messages trained is about equal. Most people still see excellent results if they have trained 5 or even 10 spam messages for every good message. If your training gets more one-sided than that, there is a good chance that your accuracy will start to decrease. But every user is different and it seems that some people are still getting good results with imbalances as high as 100 to 1 or more. -- Kenny Pitt _____ From: Winoto Janputra [mailto:winotoj@Dorfin.com] Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 8:24 AM To: Kenny Pitt Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Incremental Training Hi Kenny, Thanks for your reply. I have another question, I know it's different for everybody but when I have to stop the incremental training? I'm affraid if the database too big will slowdown outlook. We use ORF at server level but he still get around 10 spam everyday. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you are using any of the incremental training methods above then there should be no need to manually train on the entire contents of your spam folder. In fact, doing so could potentially reduce the effectiveness of the SpamBayes filter (for mathematical reasons that I won't go into ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Which one reduce the effectiveness, incremental or rebuild? Thanks, Winoto -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040924/d23c73e1/attachment.htm From kennypitt at hotmail.com Fri Sep 24 16:56:38 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Fri Sep 24 16:57:05 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: Spambayes Digest, Vol 73, Issue 33 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The POP3 Proxy version of SpamBayes (and maybe some others) support an option to train every message that SpamBayes classifies without any user intervention. If SpamBayes thinks a message is good then it will train it as good. That's what we mean by training automatically. The Outlook Add-in has never supported this. The user has to explicitly choose to train a message either by dragging it into or out of the spam folder, or by clicking the "Delete As Spam" or "Recover From Spam" buttons. There are some options in SpamBayes Manager that control the behavior of this manual training, but nothing to enable any sort of automatic training. I would be interested in knowing which options you thought meant automatic training. Training automatically on everything that SpamBayes classifies is what we refer to as the "Train On Everything" strategy. You can read more about it here on the Wiki: http://entrian.com/sbwiki/TrainOnEverything The reason that the Outlook add-in does not support this is that it can be very dangerous for a casual user. First, if you receive a lot of e-mail then your training database size will get very large very quickly. Also, if you receive a lot more spam than ham (or vice versa) then your training will get out of balance very quickly. Finally, and probably most important, it requires a lot of diligence in checking for mistakes. If you only train manually on mistakes and unsures, then the worst that happens if you fail to notice a mistake that SpamBayes made is that message gets discarded and never heard from again. On the other hand, if you are automatically training on everything and SpamBayes makes a mistake, then it has already been added to your training under the wrong classification. If you fail to notice that mistake, then the incorrect clues will remain in your database and will negatively affect the classification of any similar messages you receive in the future. -- Kenny Pitt _____ From: Windhorn, Allen, E. [LS/MKT] [mailto:Allen.Windhorn@LSUSA.com] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 5:38 PM To: 'spambayes@python.org' Cc: 'kennypitt@hotmail.com' Subject: RE: Spambayes Digest, Vol 73, Issue 33 Kenny & group, Message: 6 Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 17:00:04 -0400 From: "Kenny Pitt" > ... Note that if you do not explicitly train on some > messages then the database will not update. SpamBayes > never trains automatically in the Outlook Add-in version. What?! Is this true? If so, why not? Why does it have check boxes to enable this then? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040924/48f7e6ef/attachment.html From tselliott at Striglos.com Fri Sep 24 19:13:41 2004 From: tselliott at Striglos.com (Tom Elliott) Date: Fri Sep 24 19:13:48 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes / Outlook -- display/update error Message-ID: Hi, On a few machines running Outlook 2000/2002 I've had a minor (but very irritating) problem with Spambayes. It appears to be working fine, but as it filters and moves mail to the correct folders, the folders don't appear to update or reflect the new emails' arrival. In other words, say a new email comes in and Spambayes correctly (or incorrectly) sorts it into the Spam folder. The new/unread message count does not change or increase to reflect the new email. However, if you would select that folder you would see that there was new Spam there. This problem is not limited to the Spam folder. It affects the unsure folder and even the inbox. Sometimes there will be several new emails that have arrived, but once again there is no indication of it. Even if you were currently working in the folder, you would not see the new message. You would need to select another folder and then return in order to see the new messages. I failed to mention that all of the affected clients are working with an Exchange server. I haven't had the issue in non Exchange environments, but that could just be a function of how proportionately few of them I have Spambayes installed in. Thank you, Thomas Elliott STRIGLOS COMPANIES INC. Computer Center of Decatur Striglos Office Equipment Striglos Ink! Haines & Essick Co. 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In my SpamBayes program file folder (C:\Program Files\SpamBayes) I put the following files: default_bayes_database.db default_message_database.db Outlook.ini (untouched) default_configuration.ini (containing the two lines below) [General] data_directory: 'C:\Program Files\SpamBayes' I tried these with/without the space and with/without the quotes but it kept recreating new database files in my profile directory. I also tried this without any other such files in my profile directory (C:\Documents and Settings\scottm\Application Data\SpamBayes). Is my install just messed up? I wouldn't care so much but my db is already 5MB and my Roaming Profile is getting hammered. Thanks for any suggestions. Scott From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Sat Sep 25 02:53:35 2004 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Sat Sep 25 02:53:39 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes / Outlook -- display/update error Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5002C84893@SPIKE.city> Is the destination folder marked for offline availability? If so, it may be a synchronization issue. I.e., the count is correctly updated on the server, but if the server version of the folder hasn't synchronized with the client version, the latter's count might be wrong. Note that Spambayes does all its work on the client; but because Exchange tends to believe the server over the client, the count may be updated on the server first. I realize that's counterintuitive, but I've seen cases where Outlook reports conditions at the server until synchronization takes place, when changes have been made to the client offline. Try doing a manual synchronization of the offending folder and see if the count gets updated. Bob -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of Tom Elliott Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 1:14 PM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes / Outlook -- display/update error Hi, On a few machines running Outlook 2000/2002 I've had a minor (but very irritating) problem with Spambayes. It appears to be working fine, but as it filters and moves mail to the correct folders, the folders don't appear to update or reflect the new emails' arrival. In other words, say a new email comes in and Spambayes correctly (or incorrectly) sorts it into the Spam folder. The new/unread message count does not change or increase to reflect the new email. However, if you would select that folder you would see that there was new Spam there. This problem is not limited to the Spam folder. It affects the unsure folder and even the inbox. Sometimes there will be several new emails that have arrived, but once again there is no indication of it. Even if you were currently working in the folder, you would not see the new message. You would need to select another folder and then return in order to see the new messages. I failed to mention that all of the affected clients are working with an Exchange server. I haven't had the issue in non Exchange environments, but that could just be a function of how proportionately few of them I have Spambayes installed in. Thank you, Thomas Elliott STRIGLOS COMPANIES INC. Computer Center of Decatur Striglos Office Equipment Striglos Ink! Haines & Essick Co. Millikin Bookstore -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I was able to reinstall it after uninstalling Taskline, but have tried intalling the two in both orders (ie each one first) but they won't both work at the same time. Why not? What am I doing wrong, or what should I try to fix it? Thanks, Ellis Running WinXP, SpamBayes outlook plugin v1.0rc2 From richie at entrian.com Sat Sep 25 10:06:17 2004 From: richie at entrian.com (Richie Hindle) Date: Sat Sep 25 10:06:22 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Express In-Reply-To: <002601c4a2b6$108e10f0$bdf8fea9@acerprozwpnghe> References: <002601c4a2b6$108e10f0$bdf8fea9@acerprozwpnghe> Message-ID: [Ellen] > I'm not a technical person, yet would like to try spambates. However, > use outlook express. Is there still some way I can still use the program? Yes. Download the Windows binary installer from: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/spambayes/spambayes-1.0rc2.exe?download then read the "POP3 Proxy" section of the README at: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/*checkout*/spambayes/spambayes/README.txt?rev=HEAD&content-type=text/plain -- Richie Hindle richie@entrian.com From harmen.mak at zonnet.nl Sat Sep 25 16:12:13 2004 From: harmen.mak at zonnet.nl (Harmen Mak) Date: Sat Sep 25 16:12:11 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Bug in spambayes Message-ID: Hello, I've tried using spambayes with MS outlook and it works great. But, sometimes when I startup outlook it hangs after recieving the first mail (which is no spam). The task manager is giving "MS outlook (not responding)" a very well known message from MS. When I restart outlook it works fine again, and spam mail is send to the "Junk Email" folder. Perhaps you can look in to it. And yes I know, the resolution of this all is to use linux and throw away MS, but other people in my house would not appreciate that solution. Regards, Harmen And good luck with the project, I'm try'ng to learn python so who knows in the future.... ------------------------------------------------------------------- Key fingerprint = 3537 BC38 25B7 654E 7CC6 34B9 9FA5 CD3E 4540 A208 From cowedimaginary at cox.net Sat Sep 25 19:47:19 2004 From: cowedimaginary at cox.net (Carolina Gasser) Date: Sat Sep 25 19:47:21 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] |'M REA1lIY SURPR|SED... Message-ID: <20040925174719.B85C01E4007@bag.python.org> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Version: 6.0.766 / Virus Database: 513 - Release Date: 17/09/2004 From nsudds at arkitekture.com Sun Sep 26 00:30:35 2004 From: nsudds at arkitekture.com (Nathan Sudds) Date: Sun Sep 26 00:30:39 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Delete as Spam in Email dialog box In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040925222844.ONZF1692.simmts8-srv.bellnexxia.net@tekture> I have been wondering this for a while now. but it just got to the point where I was thinking maybe someone might be able to help with the answer. I'm using a great Outlook Addon program called Nelson Email Organizer (here's the link http://www.caelo.com/a/rl.php3?i=A963D ) It's a beautiful program that sorts mail dynamically and really cuts down on the annoyance of loads of email. I have a 30,000 message Outlook store and it has really helped to tame it! With this program and SpamBayes I've really been less stressed by email. my concern now is that because I'm going through my email via this add on interface instead of Outlook directly, I don't have a toolbar for SpamBayes so I can't just click "delete as spam" when I find that odd message that for some reason didn't get caught. I was thinking if there was a way to include this button into the actually Email Message window, I could just double click on the email open it and say "delete as spam" and. problem solved. Any chance this would work? I'm thinking it would be great even for outlook users to just open an email. notice it's spam and then hit DELETE AS SPAM rather than closing the window then clicking delete as spam. Just a thought and it would be a great help to me! Check out NEO for more details on how it works, great program and it's not expensive http://www.caelo.com/a/rl.php3?i=A963D Hope someone can help! Have a great rest of the day Nathan nsudds@arkitekture.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040925/c9b4ac27/attachment.htm From steveng at pop.jaring.my Sun Sep 26 17:50:04 2004 From: steveng at pop.jaring.my (Stephen Ng) Date: Sun Sep 26 17:50:49 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] No problems for a long time until now! Message-ID: <4156E52C.2080501@pop.jaring.my> Hi! I received the following error when training from the web interface - Training... Saving... Done. Trained on 2 messages. 500 Server error Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/spambayes/Dibbler.py", line 461, in found_terminator getattr(plugin, name)(**params) File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/spambayes/ProxyUI.py", line 542, in onReview messageInfo = self._makeMessageInfo(message) File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/spambayes/ProxyUI.py", line 710, in _makeMessageInfo messageInfo.bodySummary = self._trimHeader(text, 200) File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/spambayes/UserInterface.py", line 216, in _trimHeader sections = email.Header.decode_header(field) File "/usr/lib/python2.2/email/Header.py", line 67, in decode_header if not ecre.search(header): RuntimeError: maximum recursion limit exceeded I am using the follwoing versions - SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 1.0b1 (April 2004) and engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004). I've been running spambayes for a long time now and have had no problems until now. I tried removing hammie.db as well as spambayes.messageinfo.db. This made no difference. The error appears whenever I do any training and I click on "Train". Appreciate any help to resolve this. Thanks. Stephen Ng -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040926/ca692254/attachment.htm From Administrator at bag.python.org Sun Sep 26 18:00:05 2004 From: Administrator at bag.python.org (Administrator@bag.python.org) Date: Sun Sep 26 18:00:22 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] [MailServer Notification]To Sender file blocking settings matched and action taken. Message-ID: <018201c4a3e1$e3c69d30$1b34aec0@nrel.gov> ScanMail for Microsoft Exchange has blocked an attachment. Sender = spambayes@python.org Recipient(s) = Dowe, Nancy Subject = important product Scanning time = 9/26/2004 10:00:05 AM Action on file blocking: The attachment product.txt .pif matches the file blocking settings. ScanMail has Deleted it. Warning to Sender: Action taken by attachment blocking. 9/26/2004 10:00:05 AM important product spambayes@python.org product.txt .pif/Deleted From stephnderic at cox.net Sun Sep 26 23:53:21 2004 From: stephnderic at cox.net (Deric and Stephanie Schradeya) Date: Sun Sep 26 23:53:26 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] WINDOWS 98 Message-ID: <000601c4a413$3e3410f0$40d76044@Gus> What or who is Schradja? My last name is Schradeya and is a derivitive of Shradja from Czechoslovakia. I'm just a little curious about my heritage. Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040926/53f77ee3/attachment.htm From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Sep 27 04:53:46 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Sep 27 04:53:54 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Two users In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I have installed Spambayes on my XP home edition PC. I am > the administrator and there is one other user. We both use OUTLOOK. > I cannot get Spambayes to run for the other user. > The instruction in your troubleshooting guide to execute:- > regsvr32.exe /i:hkey_local_machine "c:\Program > Files\SpamBayes\bin\outlook_addin.dll" doesn't make sense to > me. How do I execute this? Open up a command window (e.g. Start->Run->cmd.exe). In the window, type regsvr32.exe /i:hkey_local_machine "c:\Program Files\SpamBayes\bin\outlook_addin.dll" (my mailer will break this into two lines - just keep typing until you get to the end and only then press return). That should pop up a little dialog box that tells you that it's registered (or give an error if something goes wrong). Alternatively, if you log in as the other use and run the installer again, that would work, I believe. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From 'SRV_WW_HUB.Watchdog.Demon' at wieland.de Mon Sep 27 08:08:25 2004 From: 'SRV_WW_HUB.Watchdog.Demon' at wieland.de ('SRV_WW_HUB Watchdog Demon') Date: Mon Sep 27 08:08:27 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Message-ID: GROUP securiQ.Watchdog Server: SRV_WW_HUB ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Your mail contained attachments which were denied by size or type. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Mail-Info From: spambayes@python.org To: e.writzmann@caro.at Rec.: e.writzmann@caro.at Date: 27.09.2004 08:08:28 Subject: Hi ----------------------------------------------------------------------- file is denied: interscan_safestamp.txt From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Sep 27 08:16:13 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Sep 27 08:16:29 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] No problems for a long time until now! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I received the following error when training from the > web interface - [...] > File "/usr/lib/python2.2/email/Header.py", line 67, in decode_header > if not ecre.search(header): > > RuntimeError: maximum recursion limit exceeded This looks like a problem with a particular message (a really long encoded string, or something like that?). Does it just happen when you try and train one message? If so, then the easiest thing is to just ignore (discard) that message and carry on. Python 2.4 will handle errors like these with relative ease, so it's not worth adding anything specific to SpamBayes in this case. If it happens with any message, then something very strange is happening! =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Sep 27 08:24:59 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Sep 27 08:25:06 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Moving Data_Directory In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > In my SpamBayes program file folder (C:\Program Files\SpamBayes) I put > the following files: > default_bayes_database.db > default_message_database.db > Outlook.ini (untouched) > default_configuration.ini (containing the two lines below) > > [General] > data_directory: 'C:\Program Files\SpamBayes' > > I tried these with/without the space and with/without the > quotes but it kept recreating new database files in my profile > directory. I also tried this without any other such files in my > profile directory (C:\Documents and Settings\scottm\Application > Data\SpamBayes). The documentation is inexact here (and needs to be fixed). You need to put the default_configuration.ini file in either: c:\Program Files\SpamBayes\bin Or c:\Documents and Settings\scottm\Application Data\SpamBayes And it will work as advertised. Don't have the quotes in the filename - the space shouldn't make any difference. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Sep 27 08:28:38 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Sep 27 08:28:43 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: SB_imapfilter.py Crashing pt 2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Further testing reveals this particular error to be the show > stopper. It came up on 4 separate email messages, and the > script would progress no further until the offending spam was > removed from the inbox. I have the spam saved in case you > would like to see it. FYI, this is with the latest(?) script > from the CVS. [...] > text, details = message.insert_exception_header( > AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute > 'insert_exception_header' This looks like you are using sb_imapfilter.py from CVS, but the rest of spambayes from some older version (where the message module doesn't have the insert_exception_header function). If you just replaced the sb_imapfilter.py script, you'll need to get the rest of the archive from CVS and replace all the files. If you did get the whole lot, check that you don't have another version of spambayes on the pythonpath (in lib/site-packages, for example). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Sep 27 08:30:03 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Sep 27 08:30:17 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Bug In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > my spam bayes does not seem to work anymore. Here's the last log: [...] Everything in those logs indicates that it's working as normal. What exactly is going wrong? (i.e. what do you expect to happen, and what happens or doesn't happen instead?) =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Sep 27 09:16:38 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Sep 27 09:16:44 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Incompatability issue In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > When I installed the third-party plugin Taskline, SpamBayes > stopped working (and disappared from the task bar). I was > able to reinstall it after uninstalling Taskline, but have > tried intalling the two in both orders (ie each one first) > but they won't both work at the same time. Why not? What am I > doing wrong, or what should I try to fix it? Is this the taskline that's at: http://www.taskline.info ? I downloaded a trial version of this, and it and SpamBayes appeared to work ok together (unfortunately - I was hoping to find an incompatibility which would get me an answer to your question). By "won't work at the same time", do you mean that the toolbar buttons for one won't work? If you look in Outlook's Disabled Items list (Help->About Microsoft Outlook->Disabled Items), are either listed there? Could you send us a copy of your most recent log file? (The troubleshooting guide explains where to find them). It's not that likely that anything relevant would be there, but it's possible (if it's some sort of folder access conflict, for example). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Sep 27 09:29:06 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Sep 27 09:29:11 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Sb_imapfilter.py crashing again In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [Christopher Woo] >> File "c:\spambayes\scripts\sb_imapfilter.py", line 554, in Save >> raise BadIMAPResponseError("Cannot find saved message", "") >> __main__.BadIMAPResponseError: The command 'Cannot find >> saved message' >> failed to give an OK response. [Jonathan Gilligan] > I'm getting that crash all the time with sb_imapfilter. I > submitted a bug report to the bug tracker on SourceForge. > I would work on a solution, but I really don't know IMAP > well enough to understand the problem and I would be > worried that I'd only make things worse. Sorry I haven't managed to get to that before now (I was away overseas for most of the last month). The new imapfilter script should be a lot better than the 1.0 one, but it does need much more testing & work before it's as stable. (However, with the new script comes a set of unittests, so it should stay stable in future). In this particular case, what's happening is that the IMAP server is one that when you write a new message and then search for it, won't give up the response straight away (some do, some don't). So it falls back to other code that's designed to wait until the server tells the script what the id of the new message is. That code isn't working, though. I'm out of time today, but will try and have a look at this tomorrow. Since you vaguely mentioned that if you knew enough you'd fix it, I'll be sure to call on you for testing the fix ;) =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From support at gfi.com Mon Sep 27 11:42:20 2004 From: support at gfi.com (support@gfi.com) Date: Mon Sep 27 11:45:56 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: Shocking document [37578:91458] Message-ID: <4157E07D.001649.03828@dmz> Hello, Thank you for your email. Your request has been received by GFI's Technical Support Group and has been assigned the tracking number listed in the subject. Depending on your time zone, we will be able to give you a same-day reply or, at the very latest, reply the next morning. Our support working hours are from 9.00am until 11.30pm (23:30), CET time zone. Important: Registration is required to receive support! 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The GFI support team http://www.gfi.com/ From philip.delancy at tesco.net Mon Sep 27 14:20:41 2004 From: philip.delancy at tesco.net (Philip Delancy) Date: Mon Sep 27 14:20:34 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Basic Stuff Message-ID: <00c801c4a48c$792a2b80$1c5189d9@blueberry> I run Outlook Express 6 and my Spambayes installation seems to work fine. It is particularly good at not classifying "ham" as "spam". Basic questions: Do I have to keep training all the messages that keep coming in? If I'm away and come back to 100 or so, this can take time. What happens to the messages if I don't train them? The way I operate Spambayes is to review all messages, reclassify a few and delete from the OE6 Inbox any that have slipped through. If that is normal, then that probably saves me a bit of time. Is there anything else I should be doing, with the Clues/Tokens thing for example? Otherwise, keep up the good work! Phil Appleton -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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However, I get my kicks from watching all the spams intercepted, so the wait time is well spent :-) Amir _____ From: Philip Delancy [mailto:philip.delancy@tesco.net] Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 14:21 To: Spambayes Mailing List Subject: [Spambayes] Basic Stuff I run Outlook Express 6 and my Spambayes installation seems to work fine. It is particularly good at not classifying "ham" as "spam". Basic questions: Do I have to keep training all the messages that keep coming in? If I'm away and come back to 100 or so, this can take time. What happens to the messages if I don't train them? The way I operate Spambayes is to review all messages, reclassify a few and delete from the OE6 Inbox any that have slipped through. If that is normal, then that probably saves me a bit of time. Is there anything else I should be doing, with the Clues/Tokens thing for example? Otherwise, keep up the good work! Phil Appleton -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040927/1b8b3a48/attachment.html From johnt at amileasing.com Mon Sep 27 14:51:06 2004 From: johnt at amileasing.com (Tsombakos, John) Date: Mon Sep 27 14:54:34 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Bug in spambayes Message-ID: <98385AF6669BD511B69800508BB34FEE05BA67AE@mail.amileasing.com> Join the club. Spambays always hangs on me using Outlook (w/exchange). And after coming back from a week's vacation, and having 1300+ emails to go through, I'm going to be spending all day killing and restarting Outlook... -----Original Message----- From: Harmen Mak [mailto:harmen.mak@zonnet.nl] Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 10:12 AM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Bug in spambayes Hello, I've tried using spambayes with MS outlook and it works great. But, sometimes when I startup outlook it hangs after recieving the first mail (which is no spam). The task manager is giving "MS outlook (not responding)" a very well known message from MS. When I restart outlook it works fine again, and spam mail is send to the "Junk Email" folder. From johnt at amileasing.com Mon Sep 27 15:03:53 2004 From: johnt at amileasing.com (Tsombakos, John) Date: Mon Sep 27 15:08:22 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Update Python Message-ID: <98385AF6669BD511B69800508BB34FEE05BA67EA@mail.amileasing.com> I wanted to update Python that Spambayes uses, from whatever version it comes with to the latest. I had downloaded the Python installer and ran it, but I'm pretty sure that didn't affect the runtime version that Spambayes uses. How do I get SB to use a newer version of Python? Thanks, John T. (hoping a new Python will help with Outlook freezing....) From krausg at karmanos.org Mon Sep 27 16:03:26 2004 From: krausg at karmanos.org (Kraus, Gene) Date: Mon Sep 27 16:03:35 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Emptying "Junk Email" folder Message-ID: I am running Win XP Pro and have installed Spambayes. It seems to be working well, but there doesn't seem to be a way to empty the Junk Email folder. It is not too large now, but I could see this being HUGH in no time. My friend uses this and he has an "empty" option for his. Did I miss something when I installed it? Gene Kraus krausg@karmanos.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040927/b5e98133/attachment.html From RMardo at ALJOMAIHBEV.com Mon Sep 27 16:16:38 2004 From: RMardo at ALJOMAIHBEV.com (Ferino Mardo) Date: Mon Sep 27 16:10:47 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Emptying "Junk Email" folder Message-ID: i too don't have such "empty" option but what i do is schedule autoarchive to move emails from Junk Email folder every week. hth. -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Kraus, Gene Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 05:03 PM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Emptying "Junk Email" folder I am running Win XP Pro and have installed Spambayes. It seems to be working well, but there doesn't seem to be a way to empty the Junk Email folder. It is not too large now, but I could see this being HUGH in no time. My friend uses this and he has an "empty" option for his. Did I miss something when I installed it? 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In-Reply-To: Message-ID: What is the name of the personal store containing the Inbox that receives your incoming mail? Your logfile shows that you are monitoring an Inbox in store named "Vic's Old Personal Folders" but that you also have your junk mail folder set up in a different store name "Vic's Network Personal Folders". Is it possible that you just have the wrong Inbox selected? You can check this from the Filtering tab in SpamBayes Manager. Just click the Browse button and it will show the complete hierarchy of the folders that are selected for monitoring. If necessary, you can then change the selected folders or add more folders to monitor. -- Kenny Pitt _____ From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Bartoloma, Victor Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 5:04 PM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Not scanning Email on its own. Will only scan mail if Filter now is selected. Using Windows XP, and outlook 2003. SpamBays Version 1.0rC2 June 2004 <> <> <> <> Victor A Bartoloma NCR W/Columbia, SC Multi-Vendor Support *Telephone: 803-939-2958 VP:633-2958 *Fax : 803-939-5098 *E-mail : vb124880@NCR.COM -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040927/a0a01e4f/attachment-0001.html From kennypitt at hotmail.com Mon Sep 27 17:32:51 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Mon Sep 27 17:33:05 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Update Python In-Reply-To: <98385AF6669BD511B69800508BB34FEE05BA67EA@mail.amileasing.com> Message-ID: Tsombakos, John wrote: > I wanted to update Python that Spambayes uses, from whatever version > it comes with to the latest. I had downloaded the Python installer > and ran it, but I'm pretty sure that didn't affect the runtime > version that Spambayes uses. How do I get SB to use a newer version > of Python? If you're running SpamBayes from the binary installer then it isn't possible to change the version of Python. To use a different version of Python, you'll need to run SpamBayes from the source code. There are some instructions for running from source buried somewhere in this doc: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/*checkout*/spambayes/spambayes/README. txt?rev=HEAD&content-type=text/plain There is one additional command that you'll need to run if you want the Outlook plugin, and I don't believe it is specified in this doc. Just go to the Outlook2000 subdirectory where you extracted the source, and run the following command: python addin.py --register This will register the source version of the Outlook addin with COM and Outlook, replacing the references to the binary version. You'll probably want to uninstall the binary *before* you do any of this. Uninstalling it after will remove the addin information for the source version as well. You should be able to fix that just by re-running the register command above, though. -- Kenny Pitt From kennypitt at hotmail.com Mon Sep 27 19:10:56 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Mon Sep 27 19:12:07 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes / Outlook -- display/update error In-Reply-To: <710C39AC5BC90648B3CA31DC47D111160AE2A26A@mhk02.ad.dpra.com> Message-ID: In cached mode, Outlook keeps its own local idea of the status of messages, and probably displays the client status as soon as it updates it locally. In non-cached mode, all status information comes from the Exchange server. There has been some speculation that SP2 may be blocking some notification messages from the Exchange server that would normally tell Outlook that it should refresh its display. Try disabling the Windows Firewall temporarily and see if that fixes the refresh problem. If it does, you should be able to configure Outlook as a firewall exception as a more permanent solution. -- Kenny Pitt _____ From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Harold Vandeventer Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 11:06 AM To: Tom Elliott; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Spambayes / Outlook -- display/update error My observation is that Outlook 2003 in Exchange Cached Mode on WinXP/SP2 does not experience any display update problems. Outlook 2003, NOT in Exchange Cached Mode, on WinXP/SP2 NOT does have display update issues. Clicking an alternate folder, then returning does a screen refresh. This account is not set for offline availability and I probably won't set that property for various reasons. In this particular case, I can deal with the refresh. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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No matter how you adjust the cutoff scores, you are not likely to be able to prevent this "unsure" behavior without completely destroying the effectiveness of the filter. The unsure folder is one of the primary design features of SpamBayes, indicating messages that should be reviewed and trained appropriately. If most of the messages from your vendors are in regard to similar products or services, a little bit of training on these messages will probably cause SpamBayes to properly identify the majority of messages even from unknown vendors. If a message is misidentified and you're not sure why, you can select the message and use the "Show spam clues" command to look at the spam clues. This will show how each recognized word in the message was scored by SpamBayes. The higher the word score, the more likely SpamBayes thinks it is that this word would appear in a spam message. If you're just completely stumped as to why a message scored the way it did, just send a copy of the clues to this mailing list. Someone here can probably analyze the clues and give you some ideas about what might have caused the result. -- Kenny Pitt _____ From: spambayes-bounces+kennypitt=hotmail.com@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces+kennypitt=hotmail.com@python.org] On Behalf Of David Sorensen Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 3:12 PM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes being too aggressive How do I control the aggressiveness...several of my vendors messages are are being deleted before I see them. Thank you David K. Sorensen, ChFC, CLU President Legacy Financial Associates, Ltd. 5951 McKee Road, Suite 200 Madison, WI 53719 phone - 608.442.3450 fax - 608.442.1444 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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You can also use the auto-archive facility in Outlook to permanently delete the messages from your spam folder every few days. -- Kenny Pitt _____ From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Kraus, Gene Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 10:03 AM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Emptying "Junk Email" folder I am running Win XP Pro and have installed Spambayes. It seems to be working well, but there doesn't seem to be a way to empty the Junk Email folder. It is not too large now, but I could see this being HUGH in no time. My friend uses this and he has an "empty" option for his. Did I miss something when I installed it? Gene Kraus krausg@karmanos.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Running Win 98SE I am runnig the source code version of Spambayes 1.07a After some problems with my Cable ISP, my Spambayes installation has stopped behaving. (coincidence or not, I can't be sure) When attempting to load HTTP://localhost:8880, I receive HTTP error 500 - not found. I had been using Spambayes for about a year and have made not intentional changes. When launching sb_server, the display on the console seems normal until it reports "user interface url is http://localhost:8880/" At this point a cursor simply flashes on the next line. I have the sense something else normally appears on the next line, but cannot recall. As I say, if I launch a browser pointed at localhost:8880, I get error 500. I attempted deleting the databases (message_info_database.db and statistics_database.db), which has helped cure non-scannig problems in the past, but that did not help. I downloaded Spambayes 1.0 and installed overtop of 1.07a, but I got the same result at the end of the day. I have looked through Troubleshooting.html, to no avail. I cannot report any error messages from the console, because none appear. Does any of this sound familiar? I have found reference somewhere that perhaps port 8880 is in use, and I should choose another one. I don't know how I would check for that, and if that is what happened, I am also concerned about how that might have come to be. Perhaps this is relevant: I am also running Norton antivirus (up to date) and also Black Ice firewall v3.6.cnr. Come to think, that was also a recent install, but I can't recall enough specifics to establish a cause/effect relationship between the two. Has anyone got an idea of what might be happening here? Many thanks, Ian Wigle iwigle@rogers.com Toronto -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: ScanMail for Microsoft Exchange has detected virus-infected attachment(s). Sender = spambayes@python.org Recipient(s) = limjh@opentide.com Subject = Re: Extended Mail System Scanning Time = 09/28/2004 14:53:18 Action on virus found: The attachment message.txt .exe matched file blocking settings. ScanMail has Deleted it. Warning to sender. ScanMail has detected a virus in an email you sent. From richie at entrian.com Tue Sep 28 08:17:47 2004 From: richie at entrian.com (Richie Hindle) Date: Tue Sep 28 08:17:54 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes stopped working? In-Reply-To: <001601c4a505$2b160760$6401a8c0@ym.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> References: <001601c4a505$2b160760$6401a8c0@ym.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> Message-ID: [Ian] > When attempting to load HTTP://localhost:8880, I receive HTTP error 500 > [...] > Black Ice firewall v3.6.cnr. Come to think, that was also a recent install Is it possible that the firewall is blocking port 8880? Look at the firewall configuration and try opening up port 8880. I don't use Black Ice myself, so I can't help with the specifics. If that doesn't help, type the command "netstat -a" at the DOS prompt, with and without SpamBayes running. That will tell you which ports are open, and so will tell you whether SpamBayes is successfully opening port 8880 and whether there's another process using it. -- Richie Hindle richie@entrian.com From ta-meyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Sep 28 09:46:28 2004 From: ta-meyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Sep 28 09:46:37 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] ANNOUNCE: SpamBayes release 1.0 Message-ID: The SpamBayes team is pleased to announce the 1.0 release of SpamBayes. As is now usual, this is both a release of the source code and of an installation program for all Microsoft Windows users. The Windows installation program will install either the Outlook add-in (for Microsoft Outlook users), or the SpamBayes server program (for all other POP3 mail client users, including Microsoft Outlook Express). All Windows users (including existing users of the Outlook add-in) are encouraged to use the installation program. If you wish to use the source-code version, you will also need to install Python - see README.txt in the source tree for more information. This release includes no changes from the successful (but now rather dated) 1.0rc2 release. However, we still highly recommend that existing users upgrade to the final version. Work has already begun towards the first 1.1 release, and we expect to release a (bug fix only) 1.0.1 release around the same time as 1.1a1. September 2004 is Spambayes' 2nd birthday, and (as many users know) we have gone through a very long release process, including 8 alpha releases, a beta, and two release candidates, all tested by a large number of users. As such, we are very confident that this 1.0 release is stable and suitable for regular use. We do welcome any and all contributions for improvements, of course! Get it via the 'Download' page at http://spambayes.org/download.html Enjoy the new release and your spam-free mailbox :-) Thanks to everyone involved in this release, particularly Richie Hindle and Kenny Pitt! Tony. (on behalf of the SpamBayes team) --- What is SpamBayes? --- The SpamBayes project is working on developing a Bayesian (of sorts) anti-spam filter (in Python), initially based on the work of Paul Graham. The major difference between this and other, similar, projects is the emphasis on testing newer approaches to scoring messages. The project includes a number of different applications, all using the same core code, ranging from a plug-in for Microsoft Outlook, to a POP3 proxy, to various command-line tools. From jsp at PKC.com Tue Sep 28 14:29:05 2004 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Tue Sep 28 14:29:09 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes being too aggressive Message-ID: <1ef9328d6eb45fd0c980e93275b3ea7641595905@vtmail.pkc.com> Are you sure SpamBayes is responsible for moving the messages? If there's no "Recover From Spam" button, it's probably because SpamBayes didn't classify the message of spam. Your mail server may have moved the message there if it's a recent version of MS Exchange, which can be set up to do its own filtering. As far as I know, you can't defeat that unless you have control of the server. Since I can't stop my company's Exchange server from filtering messages, I found it helpful to set up "Spam" and "Spam candidates" folders in addition to Outlook's "Junk E-mail" and "Junk E-mail candidates" folders. I have SpamBayes filter messages in my "Inbox", "Junk E-mail", and "Junk E-mail candidates" folders and move messages to "Spam" and "Spam candidates" as appropriate. If anything remains in one of the "Junk" folders, it's because Exchange classified it as Junk, but SpamBayes thought it was OK. (SpamBayes is almost always right about such messages, or I wouldn't bother.) ________________________________ From: David Sorensen [mailto:DavidS@legacyvest.com] Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 4:22 PM To: Jesse Pelton Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Spambayes being too aggressive Jessse, I'm sorry but I don't see a "Recover from spam" button on my Outlook toolbar....your message got sent to the deleted items file too. Dave S. -----Original Message----- From: Jesse Pelton [mailto:jsp@PKC.com] Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 2:30 PM To: David Sorensen Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Spambayes being too aggressive Assuming you're using the Outlook plugin, select the message(s) in question and click the "Recover From Spam" button on the Outlook toolbar. This lets SpamBayes know it got it wrong, and it'll do better next time. ________________________________ From: spambayes-bounces+jsp=pkc.com@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces+jsp=pkc.com@python.org] On Behalf Of David Sorensen Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 3:12 PM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes being too aggressive How do I control the aggressiveness...several of my vendors messages are are being deleted before I see them. Thank you David K. 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I >> submitted a bug report to the bug tracker on SourceForge. >> I would work on a solution, but I really don't know IMAP >> well enough to understand the problem and I would be >> worried that I'd only make things worse. > > Sorry I haven't managed to get to that before now (I was away overseas for > most of the last month). The new imapfilter script should be a lot better > than the 1.0 one, but it does need much more testing & work before it's as > stable. (However, with the new script comes a set of unittests, so it > should stay stable in future). > > In this particular case, what's happening is that the IMAP server is one > that when you write a new message and then search for it, won't give up > the response straight away (some do, some don't). So it falls back to > other code that's designed to wait until the server tells the script what > the id of the new message is. That code isn't working, though. > > I'm out of time today, but will try and have a look at this tomorrow. > Since you vaguely mentioned that if you knew enough you'd fix it, I'll be > sure to call on you for testing the fix ;) > > =Tony Meyer > > --- > Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies > (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This > way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Jonathan M. Gilligan Senior Lecturer in Environmental Science and Public Policy Department of Earth and Environmental Science 615-322-2420 VU Station B #351805 Dept. Office: 322-2976 Vanderbilt University Fax: 322-2138 Nashville TN 37235-1805 jonathan.gilligan@vanderbilt.edu From Christopher.Woo at pepperdine.edu Tue Sep 28 18:10:20 2004 From: Christopher.Woo at pepperdine.edu (Woo, Christopher) Date: Tue Sep 28 18:12:43 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: SB_imapfilter.py Crashing pt 2 Message-ID: Thanks, Tony! You pegged it on the money. There was an older version of Spambayes in the Python libraries. Once I zapped that, Spambayes got back to its industrious self. CW -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 11:29 PM To: Woo, Christopher; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: SB_imapfilter.py Crashing pt 2 > Further testing reveals this particular error to be the show stopper. > It came up on 4 separate email messages, and the script would progress > no further until the offending spam was removed from the inbox. I have > the spam saved in case you would like to see it. FYI, this is with the > latest(?) script from the CVS. [...] > text, details = message.insert_exception_header( > AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute > 'insert_exception_header' This looks like you are using sb_imapfilter.py from CVS, but the rest of spambayes from some older version (where the message module doesn't have the insert_exception_header function). If you just replaced the sb_imapfilter.py script, you'll need to get the rest of the archive from CVS and replace all the files. If you did get the whole lot, check that you don't have another version of spambayes on the pythonpath (in lib/site-packages, for example). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From 123media-pub at yahoo.fr Tue Sep 28 13:21:43 2004 From: 123media-pub at yahoo.fr (Création Sites Internet Montréal) Date: Tue Sep 28 21:25:54 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] =?iso-8859-1?q?Cr=E9ation_et_H=E9bergement_de_Sites_?= =?iso-8859-1?q?Internet?= Message-ID: <20040928184411.HUGX1960.simmts7-srv.bellnexxia.net@yahoo.fr> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040928/940c7378/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 7864 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040928/940c7378/attachment.gif From iarteaga at gabelli.com Tue Sep 28 21:44:23 2004 From: iarteaga at gabelli.com (Arteaga, Ivan) Date: Tue Sep 28 21:42:53 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Message-ID: Hello. I am looking to see if there is a workaround for a problem I have. I use spambayes with ms2000 outlook. I also use a rule in outlook to forward all my email to a webclient at blackberry so I receive my emails on my blackberry pda. The problem is the forwarding rule executes before spambayes runs so I get all of the spam on my PDA. Is there a way to change the order so that spam bayes runs before the message is forwarded. I have been unable to find a solution in MS outlook. As an alternative, there might be a way to use spambayes with the tmoblackberry web client. Thanks for your help. Ivan ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Gabelli Asset Management Inc. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. From iwigle at rogers.com Wed Sep 29 01:40:58 2004 From: iwigle at rogers.com (Ian Wigle) Date: Wed Sep 29 01:41:01 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes stopped working? References: <001601c4a505$2b160760$6401a8c0@ym.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> Message-ID: <003d01c4a5b4$9bc8a210$8301a8c0@DCCRXM51> Thanks, Richie. I tried that, and got more information. Although I couldn't tell whether Black Ice was blocking the port, I used the "netstat -a" command to establish that port 8880, and also pop3 and smtp were only open when Spambayes was running. However, localhost:8880 is still not found when I try to load the configuration page, or the home page. So Spambayes can open 8880, but localhost:8880 isn't found by Explorer to load the homepage. Does this suggest anything to anyone? I did the re-install of Spambayes. Are there any files that wouldn't be overwritten during the reinstall, which could be still damaged? Perhaps I should delete anything Spambayes might have installed, and re-install from scratch? I believe this is an interpreted file, rather than compiled when run against Outlook express. Does this suggest uninstalling/re-installing Python? Are there any network or TCP/IP settings I should be checking here? Am I missing any obvious trouble-shooting steps? Thanks all for any feedback. Cheers, Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richie Hindle" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 2:17 AM Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Spambayes stopped working? > > [Ian] > > When attempting to load HTTP://localhost:8880, I receive HTTP error 500 > > [...] > > Black Ice firewall v3.6.cnr. Come to think, that was also a recent install > > Is it possible that the firewall is blocking port 8880? Look at the > firewall configuration and try opening up port 8880. I don't use Black > Ice myself, so I can't help with the specifics. > > If that doesn't help, type the command "netstat -a" at the DOS prompt, > with and without SpamBayes running. That will tell you which ports are > open, and so will tell you whether SpamBayes is successfully opening port > 8880 and whether there's another process using it. > > -- > Richie Hindle > richie@entrian.com > > _______________________________________________ > Spambayes@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > From ta-meyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Sep 29 01:49:26 2004 From: ta-meyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Sep 29 01:49:35 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] ANNOUNCE: SpamBayes release 1.0 Message-ID: [Dean Bettinger] > I installed 1.0 Outlook plug-in but noticed two oddities: > > Check for new version reports that 1.0rc2 is the latest version > ^^^ Sorry - I ran out of time to upload the new version information. It'll be fixed at some point today. > Spambayes Manager reports the version as 1.0 (July 2004) > ^^^^ The code was frozen and built in late July, so that was the current date. Then there were issues with people being away/busy and so the actual release process couldn't be done until now. Nothing has changed with the 1.0 release since July, however. So it's technically the right date. > Everything works as expected. Keep up the terrific work! Thanks! Thanks for letting us know that it worked, too. (No matter how much you test, there's always something...) =Tony Meyer From dan_jeffries at cox.net Wed Sep 29 01:53:22 2004 From: dan_jeffries at cox.net (Dan Jeffries) Date: Wed Sep 29 01:53:26 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] flaw in 1.0 Message-ID: Hey guys, I read the release notes and it says that nothing changed between RC2 and 1.0. However, I've installed version 1.0, fresh, on two Windows XP Service Pack 2, Office 2000 SP 3 machines and the installer crashes while registering with Outlook. The same thing happened when I upgraded from RC2 on my Windows 2000, Outlook 2000 SP 3 machine at home. The program seems to work anyway, but still it doesn't leave a good impression when a program crashes on install! So something must have changed between the two releases, because this didn't happen for me with RC2. Besides that the program works beautifully. Keep up the excellent work. -Dan From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Sep 29 02:17:46 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Sep 29 02:17:53 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] flaw in 1.0 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I read the release notes and it says that nothing changed > between RC2 and 1.0. However, I've installed version 1.0, > fresh, on two Windows XP Service Pack 2, Office 2000 SP 3 > machines and the installer crashes while registering with > Outlook. The same thing happened when I upgraded from RC2 on > my Windows 2000, Outlook 2000 SP 3 machine at home. The > program seems to work anyway, but still it doesn't leave a > good impression when a program crashes on install! So > something must have changed between the two releases, because > this didn't happen for me with RC2. The only thing that changed was the person (and therefore machine) that built the binary (i.e. the packaging process, but nothing internal). What sort of crash happened? Was there any sort of error message presented? I've tested the installer on a (fresh) Win2000 OL2000 SP1 machine, and on an WinXP SP1 OL2002 SP2 machine, and both work fine. I wonder if this is a problem when installing to Outlook 2000 SP3? If other people that have installed 1.0 (successfully or not) could let me know what version of Windows & Outlook they are using, that would be great. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From dan_jeffries at cox.net Wed Sep 29 02:32:11 2004 From: dan_jeffries at cox.net (Dan Jeffries) Date: Wed Sep 29 02:32:31 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] flaw in 1.0 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On XP you get the generic XP error message saying that the exe crashed and then it asks if you want to send a report or not. If you click no, then the installer goes to the final screen, which is finish. On Win 2k, you get the generic fatal application error. I clicked finish on the installer and then ok on the error. In both cases the program works fine, it's just truely bizarre. My Office Pro is fully patched, SP3 and everything after it. -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 5:18 PM To: 'Dan Jeffries'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] flaw in 1.0 > I read the release notes and it says that nothing changed > between RC2 and 1.0. However, I've installed version 1.0, > fresh, on two Windows XP Service Pack 2, Office 2000 SP 3 > machines and the installer crashes while registering with > Outlook. The same thing happened when I upgraded from RC2 on > my Windows 2000, Outlook 2000 SP 3 machine at home. The > program seems to work anyway, but still it doesn't leave a > good impression when a program crashes on install! So > something must have changed between the two releases, because > this didn't happen for me with RC2. The only thing that changed was the person (and therefore machine) that built the binary (i.e. the packaging process, but nothing internal). What sort of crash happened? Was there any sort of error message presented? I've tested the installer on a (fresh) Win2000 OL2000 SP1 machine, and on an WinXP SP1 OL2002 SP2 machine, and both work fine. I wonder if this is a problem when installing to Outlook 2000 SP3? If other people that have installed 1.0 (successfully or not) could let me know what version of Windows & Outlook they are using, that would be great. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From ta-meyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Sep 29 06:20:11 2004 From: ta-meyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Sep 29 06:30:52 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] ANNOUNCE: SpamBayes release 1.0 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [Ferino Mardo] > do I have to uninstall the > release candidate first before installing 1.0? No, you can just install 1.0 over the top of 1.0rc2 and all should work fine. If you have a very old version installed (i.e. before the first beta), then you should uninstall first. Note that both installing over the top, and uninstalling then installing fresh, will leave your training and configuration data untouched, so you should notice no interruption in use. =Tony Meyer From bvandoren-cos3 at kaman.com Wed Sep 29 07:01:23 2004 From: bvandoren-cos3 at kaman.com (bvandoren-cos3@kaman.com) Date: Wed Sep 29 07:00:46 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Mail Delivery (failure spambayes@python.org) Message-ID: <200409290500.i8T50bi15475@uusnwa0n.utc.com> ------------------ Virus Warning Message (on uusnwa0n) Found virus HTML_Netsky.P in file email-body The file is deleted. --------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- During a routine email scan at UTC, a file attached to this message was deleted per UTC Security Policy. UTC does not allow emailing several file types due to their potential to transmit viruses. An attachment named message.scr was removed from this message. The body text of the message that included the deleted attachment can be found in the .txt file below. It is safe to open this file. If you believe this message is not business related simply delete it. If the message is business related and you require the file that was deleted, please contact the sender and arrange an alternate means of receiving it. The recommended method is to have the sender zip the file before sending it. -------------- next part -------------- Skipped content of type multipart/alternative From kawasaki_aha at y Wed Sep 29 07:33:45 2004 From: kawasaki_aha at y (kawasaki_aha@y) Date: Wed Sep 29 07:33:09 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Developement Message-ID: <200409290533.i8T5Wxi22305@uusnwa0n.utc.com> During a routine email scan at UTC, a file attached to this message was deleted per UTC Security Policy. UTC does not allow emailing several file types due to their potential to transmit viruses. An attachment named part_01.doc .pif was removed from this message. The body text of the message that included the deleted attachment can be found in the .txt file below. It is safe to open this file. If you believe this message is not business related simply delete it. If the message is business related and you require the file that was deleted, please contact the sender and arrange an alternate means of receiving it. The recommended method is to have the sender zip the file before sending it. -------------- next part -------------- The sample is attached! From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Sep 29 08:31:19 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Sep 29 08:31:26 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I use spambayes with ms2000 outlook. I also use a rule in > outlook to forward all my email to a webclient at blackberry > so I receive my emails on my blackberry pda. The problem is > the forwarding rule executes before spambayes runs so I get > all of the spam on my PDA. Is there a way to change the > order so that spam bayes runs before the message is > forwarded. I have been unable to find a solution in MS outlook. If you turn background filtering off (SpamBayes Manager->Advanced) then it's up to Outlook what order things happen (i.e. Outlook then SpamBayes, SpamBayes then Outlook, or SpamBayes & Outlook interchanged). In practice, this differs widely depending on Outlook version, how busy the machine is at the time, and lots of other things. You could give it a go, however. Unfortunately, there isn't any way to reliably run before Outlook rules (the only reliable option is to go afterwards, which is the point of the background filtering option). The best solution would be if the plug-in allowed you to (optionally) move mail classified as ham/good to a particular folder like it does for unsure/spam. That way you could just attach the Outlook rule to that folder. This has been requested a few times, IIRC, and I think there is an open feature request on sourceforge: http://sf.net/projects/spambayes (although a quick glance didn't find it). That will probably get added at some point. Until there, there isn't much that can be done, sorry. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From pcm at cisco.com Wed Sep 29 13:28:17 2004 From: pcm at cisco.com (Paul Michali) Date: Wed Sep 29 13:28:24 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] ANNOUNCE: SpamBayes release 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <415A9C51.4060009@cisco.com> Great tool Tony! Thanks for all the effort on this! For the IMAP version, is there any plans to add a retry mechanism to the server login? I had to hack the version I have so that, if the IMAP login fails, it will just skip and at the next time around, try to login again to read mail. Previously, it would work for a few hours and then, one of the login attempts would fail and spambayes would exit. Also, does V1.0 have the ability to specify the folder to move HAM into? I had also hacked my version so that SPAM is placed in one folder and HAM in another. Then, instead of reading my inbox, which has yet to be processed mail, I just read what is in the HAM folder. Thanks again for such a useful program! PCM @ WORK (Paul Michali) From johnt at amileasing.com Wed Sep 29 14:08:02 2004 From: johnt at amileasing.com (Tsombakos, John) Date: Wed Sep 29 14:11:28 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Plugin Hanging Message-ID: <98385AF6669BD511B69800508BB34FEE05D22F2C@mail.amileasing.com> I've installed the 1.0 version of Spambayes (Outlook plugin - Outlook 2000, exchange server 5), but it is still freezing up Outlook. It doesn't happen during the day and the junk mail flows in, just overnight. My setup is I have personal folders that my email get delivered to - it first comes to my Mailbox, then Outlook "delivers" the mail to my personal folders. I then have some rules that move the messages to various sub-folders. I've tried different combinations of telling Spambays which folder to scan - the Mailbox/Inbox (which is the Exchange server), the Personal Folders/Inbox, and both. I've played with the background timer settings - turning off, turning on, changing the delay times. But sometime during the night, Spambayes just goes to la-la land, and takes Outlook with it. I have to kill the Outlook task and restart. The Spambayes log does not show any errors - Here's the last bit of the log before it died: New message timer started - id=22533, delay=3000 The timer with id=22533 fired Moved message 'Rosalyn is the paper ready yet?' to folder 'Mailbox - Tsombakos, John/New Spam' Message 'Rosalyn is the paper ready yet?' in 'Personal Folders/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' New message timer started - id=22525, delay=2000 The timer with id=22525 fired The new message timer found no new items, so is stopping New message timer started - id=22510, delay=3000 The timer with id=22510 fired Moved message 'Publicite x Email icsc bqilrvazbtqaw' to folder 'Mailbox - Tsombakos, John/New Spam' Message 'Publicite x Email icsc bqilrvazbtqaw' in 'Personal Folders/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' New message timer started - id=22506, delay=2000 The timer with id=22506 fired The new message timer found no new items, so is stopping Here is the beginning of the next log, after I restarted Outlook: System verbosity set to 1 No old pickle file to migrate Loaded bayes database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\johnt\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db' Loaded message database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\johnt\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db' Bayes database initialized with 254 spam and 81 good messages Loaded databases in 8.10215ms SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0 (July 2004) starting (with engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004)) on Windows 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 4) using Python 2.3.3 (#51, Dec 18 2003, 20:22:39) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] Folder 'Personal Folders/Inbox' already has field 'Spam' SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Personal Folders/Inbox' Folder 'Mailbox - Tsombakos, John/New Spam' already has field 'Spam' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Mailbox - Tsombakos, John/New Spam' Folder 'Personal Folders/Spam-Possible' already has field 'Spam' Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer New message timer started - id=22464, delay=3000 The timer with id=22464 fired Moved message 'Sleep Better Tonight; Stop Grinding Your Teeth' to folder 'Mailbox - Tsombakos, John/New Spam' Message 'Sleep Better Tonight; Stop Grinding Your Teeth' in 'Personal Folders/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' Is there anything I can do? Are there suggested/recommended delay times to use? It's driving me crazy having to have to restart outlook every day. Thanks. From M.G.Faina at Thomson.com Wed Sep 29 14:17:37 2004 From: M.G.Faina at Thomson.com (Faina, Mihail) Date: Wed Sep 29 14:18:01 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] flaw in 1.0 Message-ID: Installed 1.0 on top of 1.0rc2 with no problems. XP Pro SP1, Outlook 2003 SP1. -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Tony Meyer Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 8:18 PM To: 'Dan Jeffries'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] flaw in 1.0 > I read the release notes and it says that nothing changed > between RC2 and 1.0. However, I've installed version 1.0, > fresh, on two Windows XP Service Pack 2, Office 2000 SP 3 > machines and the installer crashes while registering with > Outlook. The same thing happened when I upgraded from RC2 on > my Windows 2000, Outlook 2000 SP 3 machine at home. The > program seems to work anyway, but still it doesn't leave a > good impression when a program crashes on install! So > something must have changed between the two releases, because > this didn't happen for me with RC2. The only thing that changed was the person (and therefore machine) that built the binary (i.e. the packaging process, but nothing internal). What sort of crash happened? Was there any sort of error message presented? I've tested the installer on a (fresh) Win2000 OL2000 SP1 machine, and on an WinXP SP1 OL2002 SP2 machine, and both work fine. I wonder if this is a problem when installing to Outlook 2000 SP3? If other people that have installed 1.0 (successfully or not) could let me know what version of Windows & Outlook they are using, that would be great. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From harri.pesonen at wicom.com Wed Sep 29 14:39:28 2004 From: harri.pesonen at wicom.com (Harri Pesonen) Date: Wed Sep 29 14:39:37 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] flaw in 1.0 Message-ID: <5CC6C9D67251C34A8EF4C57AFDB2C29746EE79@postman.wicom.com> No problems: Outlook 2003 sp1, XP Pro sp2. -----Original Message----- From: Faina, Mihail [mailto:M.G.Faina@thomson.com] Sent: 29. syyskuuta 2004 15:18 To: Tony Meyer; 'Dan Jeffries'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] flaw in 1.0 Installed 1.0 on top of 1.0rc2 with no problems. XP Pro SP1, Outlook 2003 SP1. -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Tony Meyer Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 8:18 PM To: 'Dan Jeffries'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] flaw in 1.0 > I read the release notes and it says that nothing changed > between RC2 and 1.0. However, I've installed version 1.0, > fresh, on two Windows XP Service Pack 2, Office 2000 SP 3 > machines and the installer crashes while registering with > Outlook. The same thing happened when I upgraded from RC2 on > my Windows 2000, Outlook 2000 SP 3 machine at home. The > program seems to work anyway, but still it doesn't leave a > good impression when a program crashes on install! So > something must have changed between the two releases, because > this didn't happen for me with RC2. The only thing that changed was the person (and therefore machine) that built the binary (i.e. the packaging process, but nothing internal). What sort of crash happened? Was there any sort of error message presented? I've tested the installer on a (fresh) Win2000 OL2000 SP1 machine, and on an WinXP SP1 OL2002 SP2 machine, and both work fine. I wonder if this is a problem when installing to Outlook 2000 SP3? If other people that have installed 1.0 (successfully or not) could let me know what version of Windows & Outlook they are using, that would be great. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From jsp at PKC.com Wed Sep 29 14:41:06 2004 From: jsp at PKC.com (Jesse Pelton) Date: Wed Sep 29 14:41:09 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] flaw in 1.0 Message-ID: I had no problems upgrading 1.0rc2 to 1.0 on Windows XP SP 1 / Outlook 2003 SP 1. I did not uninstall rc2 first. > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces@python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Tony Meyer > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 8:18 PM > To: 'Dan Jeffries'; spambayes@python.org > Subject: RE: [Spambayes] flaw in 1.0 > > > I read the release notes and it says that nothing changed > > between RC2 and 1.0. However, I've installed version 1.0, > > fresh, on two Windows XP Service Pack 2, Office 2000 SP 3 > > machines and the installer crashes while registering with > > Outlook. The same thing happened when I upgraded from RC2 on > > my Windows 2000, Outlook 2000 SP 3 machine at home. The > > program seems to work anyway, but still it doesn't leave a > > good impression when a program crashes on install! So > > something must have changed between the two releases, because > > this didn't happen for me with RC2. > > The only thing that changed was the person (and therefore > machine) that > built the binary (i.e. the packaging process, but nothing internal). > > What sort of crash happened? Was there any sort of error > message presented? > > I've tested the installer on a (fresh) Win2000 OL2000 SP1 > machine, and on an > WinXP SP1 OL2002 SP2 machine, and both work fine. I wonder > if this is a > problem when installing to Outlook 2000 SP3? > > If other people that have installed 1.0 (successfully or not) > could let me > know what version of Windows & Outlook they are using, that > would be great. > > =Tony Meyer From rbell at hcdemocrat.com Wed Sep 29 14:44:40 2004 From: rbell at hcdemocrat.com (Bell, Robert) Date: Wed Sep 29 14:44:44 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] flaw in 1.0 Message-ID: <3BFAD5D6BF30544893C74E5D88201D42416EB2@et-prod5.express-times.net> > If other people that have installed 1.0 (successfully or not) could > let me know what version of Windows & Outlook they are using, that > would be great. > =Tony Meyer WFM. Windows 2000 SP4, Outlook XP SP3. From kkumar at mro-tek.com Wed Sep 29 15:40:25 2004 From: kkumar at mro-tek.com (KRISHNA KUMAR. V) Date: Wed Sep 29 15:42:58 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Query Message-ID: <5A665B5987793F40A52321EFED5810883512F1@exchange.mrotek.com> I am on Windows 2000/Oulook2003 and just started using SPAMBAYES. Can I import confirmed junk email ids from an excel file into SPAMBAYES to hasten the learning process ? rgds krishna kumar *******Confidentiality Statement******* The information contained in this message is confidential and may be legally privileged. The message is intended solely for the addressee(s). If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by return e-mail, delete and destroy all copies of the original message. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, or reproduction is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040929/c04c1654/attachment.htm From viceu at studentkaren.his.se Wed Sep 29 15:42:59 2004 From: viceu at studentkaren.his.se (=?iso-8859-1?Q?F=F6rste_vice_K=E5rordf=F6rande?=) Date: Wed Sep 29 15:43:01 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Show Preview Message-ID: Hi! Spambayes is running great, however, one thing that has bugged me since I installed SpamBayes is that somehow the preview window in my inbox message folder for microsoft Outlook 2000 in swedish gets reactivated now and then. It might be a prank from my 'friends' ;), but who knows.. it might also have something to do with the installation of spambayes? Is there any connection? How can I fix it in that case? /John ___________________ John Thorsson 1:e Vice K?rordf?rande Studentk?ren i Sk?vde S?dra Tr?ngall?n 4 54146 Sk?vde Direkt: 0500-448788 Mobil: 0707-102593 viceu@studentkaren.his.se Fax: 0500-416064 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040929/214d0947/attachment.html From rrdxze at tin.it Wed Sep 29 16:06:19 2004 From: rrdxze at tin.it (Giuseppe Zerbi) Date: Wed Sep 29 16:06:22 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] bug ? Message-ID: win Xpp ver. 1.0rc2 Problem: No filtering of messages when receiving mail. Attached: log --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.771 / Virus Database: 518 - Release Date: 28/09/2004 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: spambayes1.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 9898 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040929/b8d2fd10/spambayes1.obj From rroberts at srihomes.com Wed Sep 29 19:33:17 2004 From: rroberts at srihomes.com (Randy Roberts) Date: Wed Sep 29 19:33:33 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Blackberry and SpamBayes Message-ID: <356E3E91A62AD41183CD005004745D59F1105F@SRICMAILSRV1> I've been using Spambayes with no installation issues until I tried installing the latest version on a PC that is using Blackberry's redirector with Outlook on an Exchange network. It errors out with a registering error, failed. I tried closing the Blackberry and reinstalling but the same occurs. I tried logging in under my profile which never loads Blackberry and everything works ok. Does anyone have any tips for getting the two programs to work together or should I move to Linux email servers where all this might work better? thanks in advance for any assistance! Randy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040929/ff644f8c/attachment.html From Robert.Mezzone at PJSolomon.Com Wed Sep 29 19:46:08 2004 From: Robert.Mezzone at PJSolomon.Com (Robert Mezzone) Date: Wed Sep 29 19:46:14 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Blackberry and SpamBayes Message-ID: <1254A68F4903D411B24800508B1220E90629F2CE@solomon1.pjsc.internal> We use Spambayes and Exchange 5.5/Outlook 2003 without any problems. Are you getting any messages in event viewer? _____ From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Randy Roberts Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 1:33 PM To: 'spambayes@python.org' Subject: [Spambayes] Blackberry and SpamBayes I've been using Spambayes with no installation issues until I tried installing the latest version on a PC that is using Blackberry's redirector with Outlook on an Exchange network. It errors out with a registering error, failed. I tried closing the Blackberry and reinstalling but the same occurs. I tried logging in under my profile which never loads Blackberry and everything works ok. Does anyone have any tips for getting the two programs to work together or should I move to Linux email servers where all this might work better? thanks in advance for any assistance! Randy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Are you getting any messages in event viewer? _____ From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Randy Roberts Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 1:33 PM To: 'spambayes@python.org' Subject: [Spambayes] Blackberry and SpamBayes I've been using Spambayes with no installation issues until I tried installing the latest version on a PC that is using Blackberry's redirector with Outlook on an Exchange network. It errors out with a registering error, failed. I tried closing the Blackberry and reinstalling but the same occurs. I tried logging in under my profile which never loads Blackberry and everything works ok. Does anyone have any tips for getting the two programs to work together or should I move to Linux email servers where all this might work better? thanks in advance for any assistance! Randy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040929/29a7c5da/attachment.html From usr7-28hl at xemaps.com Wed Sep 29 20:30:35 2004 From: usr7-28hl at xemaps.com (Keith Russell) Date: Wed Sep 29 20:30:41 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] IMAP Error: Must specify server details first Message-ID: <415AFF4B.2070209@xemaps.com> I am using SpamBayes IMAP Filter Version 0.4 (May 2004) (source), with version 2.3.4 (#53, May 25 2004, 21:17:02) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] of Python; my operating system is Windows 5.1.2600.2 (Service Pack 2). I just installed SpamBayes and am trying to configure it. I brought up the configuration page and entered the name of my server, as well as my username and password. However, if I then click on "configure folders to filter" or "Configure folders to train" on the home page, I immediately get an error saying: "Must specify server details first". What am I missing? Also, if I click on the link to create a help message and try to send it using the SpamBayes interface, it tells me: "You will be unable to send this message from this page, as you do not have your SMTP server's details entered in your configuration. Please either enter those details, or copy the text below into your regular mail application." However, I don't see a field on the configuration page for the SMTP details. Sorry if I'm missing something obvious, but can someone help me out? Thanks in advance. -- Keith From skip at pobox.com Wed Sep 29 23:43:41 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Wed Sep 29 23:43:47 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] interesting virus... social engineering Message-ID: <16731.11405.417157.18537@montanaro.dyndns.org> I was quickly scanning my virus mailbox just now (I have only the crudest virus detection and sometimes sequester a legitimate email) and noticed a message purporting to be from Greg Ward (gward@python.net). It reads: Dear user skip@mojam.com, We have detected that your e-mail account was used to send a large amount of junk email messages during the last week. We suspect that your computer had been infected and now runs a trojaned proxy server. Please follow the instruction in order to keep your computer safe. Best wishes, The mojam.com support team. The interesting thing is *I'm* the "mojam.com support team". Of course the message didn't actually come from Greg. Sendmail correctly deduced that it attempted to obscure its real origins. Skip "Let's be careful out there." - Phil Esterhouse on "Hill Street Blues" From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Sep 30 03:19:03 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Sep 30 03:19:13 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] bug ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Problem: No filtering of messages when receiving mail. The log contains no indication that Outlook has told SpamBayes about any mail. It is definitely arriving in the folder: Cartelle personali/Posta in arrivo ? (I'm guessing that the store translates to "Personal Folders", and the folder is something like "Incoming mail"?) If mail is actually arriving somewhere else (another pst file, Exchange, etc), then you need to change the SpamBayes settings to watch the correct folder. To do this, go into the SpamBayes Manager dialog, select the Filtering tab, and click the Browse button next to the current selection. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Sep 30 03:21:20 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Sep 30 03:21:30 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Query In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Can I import confirmed junk email ids from an > excel file into SPAMBAYES to hasten the learning process ? What is it that you are calling a "junk mail id"? SpamBayes doesn't have any concept of an "id" for messages, so whatever it is, it will be of no use at all. If you're referring to email addresses, this is known as whitelisting/blacklisting, and there's a FAQ about it: http://spambayes.org/faq.html In any case, you should get good results after training fewer than 10 ham and 10 spam, so there isn't much need to hasten (if you get less mail than that in a couple of days, you probably don't need SpamBayes at all). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Sep 30 03:23:24 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Sep 30 03:23:33 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Show Preview In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Spambayes is running great, however, one thing that has > bugged me since I installed SpamBayes is that somehow > the preview window in my inbox message folder for microsoft > Outlook 2000 in swedish gets reactivated now and then. > It might be a prank from my 'friends' ;), but who knows.. > it might also have something to do with the installation of > spambayes? Is there any connection? SpamBayes doesn't have anything to do with the preview pane at all, so I can't think of any possible way that it might be related. The most likely cause (based on your email) is that someone else is turning it on, and the second most likely is that Outlook itself is resetting it (it tends to do odd things like that). You can try uninstalling SpamBayes temporarily, and check if it stops happening (if you then reinstall, you won't lose any training or configuration data), but it is extremely unlikely. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Sep 30 04:00:05 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Sep 30 04:00:26 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] IMAP Error: Must specify server details first In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I just installed SpamBayes >From the released source, or from CVS? (I only realised after reading your message that the version info will appear the same for either at the moment - I'll correct that shortly). > and am trying to configure it. I > brought up the configuration page and entered the name of my > server, as well as my username and password. However, if I then > click on "configure folders to filter" or "Configure folders to > train" on the home page, I immediately get an error saying: > > "Must specify server details first". > > What am I missing? With the 1.0 source, I don't get this, but I do get an error if I try to do it. You can work around it by stopping the script, then starting it again and trying to load the folder configuration pages. (The script fails to realise that you have entered the server/user details when it's the same session). I had thought this was fixed, but apparently it wasn't: [ 903905 ] IMAP Configuration Error I have fixed it now, however. Until 1.0.1/1.1a1 is released, you can still use the workaround described above. (If the workaround doesn't work (given that you got a slightly different error), let me know and I'll investigate further). > Also, if I click on the link to create a help message and try to > send it using the SpamBayes interface, it tells me: [...] > However, I don't see a field on the configuration page for the > SMTP details. That's because there isn't one. The primary reason for entering the SMTP details are to use the SMTP proxy in conjuction with the POP3 proxy (sb_server) - SpamBayes then uses them for sending the automatic help messages. However, with the IMAP filter, there's no need for the SMTP proxy, so those were left off the configuration page. It completely slipped my notice that this would mean that you couldn't then use the automatic help message page (without manually editing the configuration file). I'll think about it and figure out a solution to this, perhaps letting people enter SMTP details on the page, if necessary. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Sep 30 04:27:49 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Sep 30 04:27:58 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Basic Stuff In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [Philip Delancy] > Do I have to keep training all the messages that > keep coming in? No. In fact, training on every message is generally not the best thing to do. As Amir indicated, just training on unsures (any any mistakes, if there are any) is probably the best thing to do. (But the golden rule is that if what you're doing works for you, then don't change it). There's a whole heap of information about training on the wiki: http://entrian.com/sbwiki > What happens to the messages if I don't train them? After a configurable amount of time, they are discarded (this doesn't effect the copy that ends up in your mailer, of course), just like if you selected the 'discard' option for each of them. By default, this is 7 days, but you can change that if you'd like. > Is there anything else I should be doing, with the > Clues/Tokens thing for example? The Clues/Tokens links are only there for interest or trying to figure out scoring problems (eg "why do these spam messages keep getting scored as ham?"). They have no training functionality. [Amir Katz] > However, maybe (and I'm sure the developers can answer that) > when a message that was categorized as spam has the radio > button set to 'spam', it has the same effect as 'discard'. No. SpamBayes doesn't do any training unless it's told to (i.e. messages that are classified as spam, aren't automatically trained as spam). (Although there is an off-by-default option to turn this on, IIRC). This would probably be a bad idea (see the wiki stuff linked above). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Sep 30 04:38:28 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Sep 30 04:38:33 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] flaw in 1.0 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > On XP you get the generic XP error message saying that the > exe crashed and then it asks if you want to send a report or > not. If you click no, then the installer goes to the final > screen, which is finish. On Win 2k, you get the generic > fatal application error. I clicked finish on the installer > and then ok on the error. In both cases the program works > fine, it's just truely bizarre. My Office Pro is fully > patched, SP3 and everything after it. We've had successful reports from: Windows Outlook --------------------------- 98 2000 SP? 2000 SP? 2000 SP1 XP Pro SP1 2002 SP2 XP Pro SP1 2003 SP1 (x2) XP Pro SP2 2003 SP1 2000 SP4 2002 SP3 Kenny also tested it, with (I think) XP and 2003 SP1. Which makes it look like it's just you, except that you're using two different machines, with two different OS versions (although both Outlook 2000 SP3, and we haven't tested that - and maybe 1.0rc2 was built with SP3 whereas 1.0 wasn't). I'm quite ready to believe that the different build process is at fault (particularly since 1.0rc2 worked for you), but I'm not sure how to track this down - particularly since it's just the generic crash, which is no help with figuring out the problem. Since it is working for you, I'm inclined to leave it for the moment, and hopefully more reports will come in and shed light. I'll also try and get the OL2000 machine here upgraded to SP3 and see what happens. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From hugh at aml.co.nz Thu Sep 30 05:07:11 2004 From: hugh at aml.co.nz (Hugh Cronwright) Date: Thu Sep 30 05:07:19 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook problem Message-ID: <00dc01c4a69a$94bdfd30$1904a8c0@aml.local> I am running Win 2000 and use Outlook as my mail program in a business environment. When a particular project becomes a working job, I use Find to locate all the incoming or outgoing emails that relate to it. The Drag them across into a new folder titled with the project name. But since I installed Spambayes, I cannot Drag from a list of mail located by Find. I can drag from the normal Inbox, but that means manually checking every email. Why should this be, and is there a work-around? Kind regards Hugh Cronwright Development Manager Marquet Trading Ltd Auckland, New Zealand Email hugh@aml.co.nz Web www.aml.co.nz Ph +64-9-520 5439 Fax +64-9-520 5435 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040930/df361dec/attachment.htm From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Sep 30 05:10:07 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Sep 30 05:14:43 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Sb_imapfilter.py crashing again In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I'll be happy to help test out any fixes. It's probably easiest to do this through the bug tracker you opened, so I'm moving conversation there. If anyone else is interested in this particular problem, the tracker is: [ 1023797 ] Imapfilter fails: 'Cannot find saved message =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Sep 30 05:23:51 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Sep 30 05:27:35 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: [spambayes-dev] Potential bug? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I had the same problem This is confusing, sorry. You refer to "the same problem" - the same as what? This message doesn't appear to be a reply (for example, the subject isn't in the form "Re: another_message"), but you are obviously replying to something. > Found this forum because I gave > up on the mirror sites for spambayes-1.0.zip - none of them > had the file - so I looked for it on Google. I am now > downloading the .exe version, which takes a while. I'm confused here, too. Do you mean that the various sourceforge mirrors didn't have the spambayes-1.0.zip file? The ones I've tested appear to, and there have been 400-odd downloads since it was released, so it seems that they do. Perhaps this was a temporary problem? In any case, the page that you were downloading the zip from ought to have had a link to the binary as well (note that the contents of the zip and of the exe are not the same). I'm guessing you were not downloading from http://sf.net/projects/spambayes or http://spambayes.org or http://spambayes.sourceforge.net, but some other site. Those are the official SpamBayes webpages, so it's best to use them. Note that spambayes-dev is *not* a place to discuss SpamBayes bugs. It's a mailing list for people interested in the development of SpamBayes. The correct list is spambayes@python.org, or you can just open a report on http://sf.net/projects/spambayes. http://spambayes.org/contact.html has more information about the various mailing lists. > - the reason I was uninstalling it in > the first place was that outlook quit working entirely after > I installed it. Since the folders and toolbars didn't > disappear, I thought "what the heck" and installed it again. The toolbar not being removed after uninstall is a known bug (the FAQ refers to it in the "how do I uninstall" question/answer). > I learned something in the process: you MUST restart the > computer after installing spambayes and before opening > outlook. If you don't, outlook will not work, no matter how > many time you restart!!! This is not true in general (although it may have been the case for you). > It would be good to tell people this beforehand The chances are that something was wrong with Outlook itself, and the restart fixed this. Given the numbers of people that have installed the plug-in, and that this is the first report of this problem, it seems the most likely explanation. If you can duplicate it (particularly on more than one machine), then please do open a bug report. > and also let them know beforehand that it works > best with equal amounts of spam and ham (before they train it > with 1500 pieces of ham and 15 spams, as I did :-p -- the > spam is gradually catching up). Note that training large (like 1500) numbers of messages will probably not give you the best performance. It's best (generally) to start with a fresh database and just train on everything that ends up in the unsure folder (or is misclassified). This will be everything at first, but after about 10 ham and 10 spam you'll get good results. This is an area in which the documentation (etc) is a bit behind, and we are working on fixing it - thanks for the suggestion, though. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Sep 30 05:30:00 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Sep 30 05:31:25 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > When a particular project becomes a working job, I use > Find to locate all the incoming or outgoing emails that > relate to it. The Drag them across into a new folder > titled with the project name. But since I installed Spambayes, > I cannot Drag from a list of mail located by Find. I can > drag from the normal Inbox, but that means manually checking every email. This is a known bug, unfortunately, with an unknown solution. The relevant tracker is: [ 785089 ] Can't move items from Advanced Find > Why should this be, and is there a work-around? Unfortunately, we don't know the answer to the former. It's very strange, because SpamBayes isn't involved in that move at all (the problems occurs even with folders that SpamBayes knows nothing about). What version of Outlook are you using? The two confirmed cases of this are with Outlook 2002 SP2, and I wonder if this is an Outlook bug that we are running into (which might be fixed in other versions of Outlook). To work around the problem, you can right-click the message(s) you want to move, choose "Move to folder", and specify the folder that way. Annoying, I will admit, but I'm really not sure how to go about solving this bug. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Sep 30 05:41:26 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Sep 30 05:54:01 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Two users In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Thanks for the suggestion. When I tried this I got the error > message:- c:\Program Files\Spambayes\bin\outlook_addin.dll > was loaded, but the > dllinstall entry point was not found. The file cannot be registered. Sorry, I should have been paying closer attention. You're using an old version of SpamBayes, I gather (pre 1.0rc2) which has a bug in the troubleshooting guide. Rather than using regsvr32, you should use our registration utility. The process is basically the same, and you start by opening up a command window. However, the command to use is: c:\Program Files\SpamBayes\bin\outlook_addin_register.exe" hkey_local_machine (Again, if my mailer wraps that, it should all be one line). You'll need to run this as someone with administrator privileges, too, by the way. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From aw-confirm at ebay.com Thu Sep 30 05:09:00 2004 From: aw-confirm at ebay.com (aw-confirm@ebay.com) Date: Thu Sep 30 05:54:36 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] eBay Notification Message-ID: <200409300309.i8U390kU024755@host2.globalsecureserver.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040929/8d8e3f2a/attachment.html From tim.peters at gmail.com Thu Sep 30 06:14:00 2004 From: tim.peters at gmail.com (Tim Peters) Date: Thu Sep 30 06:14:03 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1f7befae04092921144a60277f@mail.gmail.com> [Tony Meyer] > This is a known bug, unfortunately, with an unknown solution. The relevant > tracker is: > > [ 785089 ] Can't move items from Advanced Find > >> Why should this be, and is there a work-around? Ah, Windows -- it's such a delight . > Unfortunately, we don't know the answer to the former. It's very strange, > because SpamBayes isn't involved in that move at all Indeed! We don't hook anything even conceivably relevant except Outlook's add-to-folder event. > (the problems occurs even with folders that SpamBayes knows nothing about). > > What version of Outlook are you using? The two confirmed cases of this are > with Outlook 2002 SP2, and I wonder if this is an Outlook bug that we are > running into (which might be fixed in other versions of Outlook). Sounds likely to me. I just tried it on OL 2003 SP1, Win XP Pro SP2. No problems of any kind dragging from the Advanced Find window. OTOH, I'm running SpamBayes from source and haven't updated in about a month. But then nothing interesting has changed in that month anyway. > To work around the problem, you can right-click the message(s) you want to > move, choose "Move to folder", and specify the folder that way. Annoying, I > will admit, but I'm really not sure how to go about solving this bug. Alas, it looks, feels, and smells like another Outlook bug. Has anyone looked in their SpamBayes log file for "funny messages" near the time of the failing drag attempt? Since it doesn't fail for me, it's not surprising that my log doesn't show anything odd when I try. From valkyrie at valleycity.net Thu Sep 30 08:18:14 2004 From: valkyrie at valleycity.net (Valkyrie Publications) Date: Thu Sep 30 06:19:02 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] FW: [spambayes-dev] Potential bug? Message-ID: Sorry - forgot to use "reply all." Here is my email again with a few typos fixed. As I found after I wrote it, the reason I couldn't find the zip file on the mirror sites was that I was clicking the logo for the home page rather than the icon for the download. Totally my own idiotic fault; too tired at this time of night. It is impossible, as far as I could tell, to locate the download from the home pages - at least I spent a lot of time trying! Thanks, Shirley _____________________________________ Valkyrie Publications www.valkyriepub.com -----Original Message----- From: Valkyrie Publications [mailto:valkyrie@valleycity.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 10:51 PM To: Tony Meyer Subject: RE: [spambayes-dev] Potential bug? Sorry about that - I should have copied your post into the email; I meant that the toolbars and folders didn't go away when it was uninstalled. In fact, I just installed in on a second computer and trained it. Nice to have a reason to be glad to get spam...(i.e. for training purposes) Yes, I looked on many of the mirror aites for the .zip file and couldn't find it. Used "search" on the University of MN site, and found articles about it but no download - and the word "spambayes" didn't return any results in search, nor did the name of the file. Even searched some outside the US and couldn't find it. I used Google and found the download of the .exe version, so I got the program. Yes, I found the mirror sites through the sourceforge website, by clicking the link for spambayes-1.0.zip on this page: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=61702. But I couldn't find a download on any of those mirror sites that appeared on this page: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/spambayes/spambayes-1.0.zip?download. I got to those pages by clicking the logo on the left hand side; possibly the wrong way to approach them?? It took me to the home page of each. If the file is on them, it's not easy to find!! Yes - outlook quit responding completely after the first time I installed spambayes. It wouldn't send, reply, even shut down without useing ctrl alt del; I restarted the computer several times and it still was the same. I uninstalled spambayes, reinstalled it, and this time I restarted the computer after installing spambayes and before opening outlook. Everything then worked fine - so I have assumed my not restarting in between was the problem. It is working beautifully now! This was on a Tecra 8100 with Win 98SE and Office 2000 with 3 service packs, by the way. This didn't happen on my HP XE3 (same software), but I did restart between installing spambayes and opening outlook. The one with 1500 hams is eventually accumulating spams to even it up. I'd deleted all my spam before I realized I should have equal amounts, so I didn't train over. Used equal amounts, 50 or so, on the HP just now. I'd be glad to let you know anything you'd like about the way this works for me. This is a GREAT program! Thanks! Shirley Starke _____________________________________ Valkyrie Publications www.valkyriepub.com -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 8:24 PM To: 'Valkyrie Publications'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [spambayes-dev] Potential bug? > I had the same problem This is confusing, sorry. You refer to "the same problem" - the same as what? This message doesn't appear to be a reply (for example, the subject isn't in the form "Re: another_message"), but you are obviously replying to something. > Found this forum because I gave > up on the mirror sites for spambayes-1.0.zip - none of them > had the file - so I looked for it on Google. I am now > downloading the .exe version, which takes a while. I'm confused here, too. Do you mean that the various sourceforge mirrors didn't have the spambayes-1.0.zip file? The ones I've tested appear to, and there have been 400-odd downloads since it was released, so it seems that they do. Perhaps this was a temporary problem? In any case, the page that you were downloading the zip from ought to have had a link to the binary as well (note that the contents of the zip and of the exe are not the same). I'm guessing you were not downloading from http://sf.net/projects/spambayes or http://spambayes.org or http://spambayes.sourceforge.net, but some other site. Those are the official SpamBayes webpages, so it's best to use them. Note that spambayes-dev is *not* a place to discuss SpamBayes bugs. It's a mailing list for people interested in the development of SpamBayes. The correct list is spambayes@python.org, or you can just open a report on http://sf.net/projects/spambayes. http://spambayes.org/contact.html has more information about the various mailing lists. > - the reason I was uninstalling it in > the first place was that outlook quit working entirely after > I installed it. Since the folders and toolbars didn't > disappear, I thought "what the heck" and installed it again. The toolbar not being removed after uninstall is a known bug (the FAQ refers to it in the "how do I uninstall" question/answer). > I learned something in the process: you MUST restart the > computer after installing spambayes and before opening > outlook. If you don't, outlook will not work, no matter how > many time you restart!!! This is not true in general (although it may have been the case for you). > It would be good to tell people this beforehand The chances are that something was wrong with Outlook itself, and the restart fixed this. Given the numbers of people that have installed the plug-in, and that this is the first report of this problem, it seems the most likely explanation. If you can duplicate it (particularly on more than one machine), then please do open a bug report. > and also let them know beforehand that it works > best with equal amounts of spam and ham (before they train it > with 1500 pieces of ham and 15 spams, as I did :-p -- the > spam is gradually catching up). Note that training large (like 1500) numbers of messages will probably not give you the best performance. It's best (generally) to start with a fresh database and just train on everything that ends up in the unsure folder (or is misclassified). This will be everything at first, but after about 10 ham and 10 spam you'll get good results. This is an area in which the documentation (etc) is a bit behind, and we are working on fixing it - thanks for the suggestion, though. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list ( ) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Sep 30 06:27:33 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Sep 30 06:27:47 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [Tony] >> Unfortunately, we don't know the answer to the former. It's very strange, >> because SpamBayes isn't involved in that move at all [Tim] > Indeed! We don't hook anything even conceivably relevant except > Outlook's add-to-folder event. And even without any hooks we get this problem, which is why I can't figure where to start looking. > I just tried it on OL 2003 SP1, Win XP Pro SP2. > No problems of any kind dragging from the Advanced Find window. > OTOH, I'm running SpamBayes from source and haven't updated in > about a month. But then nothing interesting has changed in that > month anyway. Thanks for trying it out. I tried this when I first heard about this problem, which was a couple of months ago at least, and it failed then (also from source), so it does seem like it's Outlook version specific. > Alas, it looks, feels, and smells like another Outlook bug. I agree. > Has anyone looked in their SpamBayes log file for "funny messages" near > the time of the failing drag attempt? Since it doesn't fail for me, > it's not surprising that my log doesn't show anything odd when I try. :) I'm using OL 2002 SP2 and so can duplicate this. I get nothing generated in the log even with verbosity at max. I'm fairly sure (particularly now that you say that it works with OL 2003) that there will be nothing we can do about this. I plan to install OL 2002's SP2 fairly soon, so that might fix it (if so, I'll add a note to the tracker). =Tony Meyer From hugh at aml.co.nz Thu Sep 30 07:08:52 2004 From: hugh at aml.co.nz (Hugh Cronwright) Date: Thu Sep 30 07:08:58 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook problem In-Reply-To: <1f7befae04092921144a60277f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <012701c4a6ab$946cc030$1904a8c0@aml.local> I am using Outlook 2002 SP2. Thanks for the advice. Kind regards Hugh Cronwright Marquet Trading Ltd Auckland, New Zealand Email hugh@aml.co.nz Web www.aml.co.nz -----Original Message----- From: Tim Peters [mailto:tim.peters@gmail.com] Sent: 30 September 2004 4:14 PM To: Tony Meyer Cc: hugh@aml.co.nz; spambayes@python.org; Peter Cronwright Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Outlook problem [Tony Meyer] > This is a known bug, unfortunately, with an unknown solution. The relevant > tracker is: > > [ 785089 ] Can't move items from Advanced Find > >> Why should this be, and is there a work-around? Ah, Windows -- it's such a delight . > Unfortunately, we don't know the answer to the former. It's very strange, > because SpamBayes isn't involved in that move at all Indeed! We don't hook anything even conceivably relevant except Outlook's add-to-folder event. > (the problems occurs even with folders that SpamBayes knows nothing about). > > What version of Outlook are you using? The two confirmed cases of this are > with Outlook 2002 SP2, and I wonder if this is an Outlook bug that we are > running into (which might be fixed in other versions of Outlook). Sounds likely to me. I just tried it on OL 2003 SP1, Win XP Pro SP2. No problems of any kind dragging from the Advanced Find window. OTOH, I'm running SpamBayes from source and haven't updated in about a month. But then nothing interesting has changed in that month anyway. > To work around the problem, you can right-click the message(s) you want to > move, choose "Move to folder", and specify the folder that way. Annoying, I > will admit, but I'm really not sure how to go about solving this bug. Alas, it looks, feels, and smells like another Outlook bug. Has anyone looked in their SpamBayes log file for "funny messages" near the time of the failing drag attempt? Since it doesn't fail for me, it's not surprising that my log doesn't show anything odd when I try. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Sep 30 07:20:47 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Sep 30 07:28:59 2004 Subject: [spambayes-dev] Re: [Spambayes] ANNOUNCE: SpamBayes release 1.0 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Thanks for all the effort on this! On behalf of us all, you're welcome! > For the IMAP version, is there any plans to add a retry > mechanism to the server login? > > I had to hack the version I have so that, if the IMAP > login fails, it will just skip and at the next time > around, try to login again to read mail. Previously, > it would work for a few hours and then, one of the > login attempts would fail and spambayes would exit. I have no problems with adding that. To save me a few minutes, would you like to open a patch tracker on sf and put a diff there? (Against whatever version you have is fine). > Also, does V1.0 have the ability to specify the folder > to move HAM into? I had also hacked my version so that > SPAM is placed in one folder and HAM in another. Then, > instead of reading my inbox, which has yet to be > processed mail, I just read what is in the HAM folder. No, unfortunately. This is (as you'd know): [ 940643 ] Add ham_folder option And it didn't make it into 1.0 (the 1.0 branch has been pretty much 'frozen' for a long time, to try and get the release as stable as possible). However, this has now been implemented and checked into CVS. That means that it will be in the 1.1a1 release, whenever that is (but not in 1.0.1, which is bugfixes only). It's in CVS now, if you wanted to use that instead, but there's probably not much point since you've got a modified copy already. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From sjinralkar at hotmail.com Thu Sep 30 07:31:49 2004 From: sjinralkar at hotmail.com (sjinralkar@hotmail.com) Date: Thu Sep 30 07:31:10 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] News Message-ID: <200409300531.i8U5V2T21229@uusnwa0n.utc.com> During a routine email scan at UTC, a file attached to this message was deleted per UTC Security Policy. UTC does not allow emailing several file types due to their potential to transmit viruses. An attachment named news01.doc .pif was removed from this message. The body text of the message that included the deleted attachment can be found in the .txt file below. It is safe to open this file. If you believe this message is not business related simply delete it. If the message is business related and you require the file that was deleted, please contact the sender and arrange an alternate means of receiving it. The recommended method is to have the sender zip the file before sending it. -------------- next part -------------- Monthly news report. From RMardo at ALJOMAIHBEV.com Thu Sep 30 08:12:17 2004 From: RMardo at ALJOMAIHBEV.com (Ferino Mardo) Date: Thu Sep 30 08:06:23 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook problem Message-ID: FWIW, I'm using Outlook 2002 SP3 with spambayes 1.0rc2. I don't have those problems like what you're having. try updating to SP3 your Office. hth. > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces@python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Hugh Cronwright > Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 08:09 AM > To: 'Tim Peters'; 'Tony Meyer' > Cc: spambayes@python.org; 'Peter Cronwright' > Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Outlook problem > > > I am using Outlook 2002 SP2. > Thanks for the advice. > > Kind regards > > Hugh Cronwright > Marquet Trading Ltd > Auckland, New Zealand > Email hugh@aml.co.nz Web www.aml.co.nz > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim Peters [mailto:tim.peters@gmail.com] > Sent: 30 September 2004 4:14 PM > To: Tony Meyer > Cc: hugh@aml.co.nz; spambayes@python.org; Peter Cronwright > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Outlook problem > > [Tony Meyer] > > This is a known bug, unfortunately, with an unknown solution. The > relevant > > tracker is: > > > > [ 785089 ] Can't move items from Advanced Find > > > > 089> > > >> Why should this be, and is there a work-around? > > Ah, Windows -- it's such a delight . > > > Unfortunately, we don't know the answer to the former. It's very > > strange, because SpamBayes isn't involved in that move at all > > Indeed! We don't hook anything even conceivably relevant > except Outlook's add-to-folder event. > > > (the problems occurs even with folders that SpamBayes knows nothing > about). > > > > What version of Outlook are you using? The two confirmed cases of > > this > are > > with Outlook 2002 SP2, and I wonder if this is an Outlook > bug that we > > are running into (which might be fixed in other versions of > Outlook). > > Sounds likely to me. I just tried it on OL 2003 SP1, Win XP Pro SP2. > No problems of any kind dragging from the Advanced Find > window. OTOH, I'm running SpamBayes from source and haven't > updated in about a month. But then nothing interesting has > changed in that month anyway. > > > To work around the problem, you can right-click the message(s) you > > want to move, choose "Move to folder", and specify the folder that > > way. Annoying, > I > > will admit, but I'm really not sure how to go about solving > this bug. > > Alas, it looks, feels, and smells like another Outlook bug. > Has anyone looked in their SpamBayes log file for "funny > messages" near the time of the failing drag attempt? Since > it doesn't fail for me, it's not surprising that my log > doesn't show anything odd when I try. > > _______________________________________________ > Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > From usr7-28hl at xemaps.com Thu Sep 30 09:37:11 2004 From: usr7-28hl at xemaps.com (Keith Russell) Date: Thu Sep 30 09:37:16 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] IMAP Error: Must specify server details first In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <415BB7A7.5020108@xemaps.com> (I've tried twice to send this message and it hasn't arrived. My utmost apologies if it ends up being duplicated.) Tony Meyer wrote: > You can work around it by stopping the script, then starting it again > and trying to load the folder configuration pages. (The script fails to > realise that you have entered the server/user details when it's the same > session). ... > (If the workaround doesn't work (given that you got a slightly different > error), let me know and I'll investigate further). Wow, Tony, such service! Do you find time for anything else? However, I'm still having trouble. So here's the dumb newbie question of the day: HOW do I stop the script? I didn't know how to stop it earlier today, and had to reboot my system, so I just did it. I could have used Task Manager to kill python, but I'm not sure that would have been any better. Now, tonight, when I start the script: sb_imapfilter.py -b -v I'm not getting a browser window. The verbose output gives me three messages, which look okay, with no errors, but no browser. And opening a browser window and entering the URL manually gives me an error. I'd send you the log, but I don't know where to find it. >>Also, if I click on the link to create a help message and try to >>send it using the SpamBayes interface, it tells me: > > [...] > >>However, I don't see a field on the configuration page for the >>SMTP details. > > > That's because there isn't one. The primary reason for entering the SMTP > details are to use the SMTP proxy in conjuction with the POP3 proxy > (sb_server) - SpamBayes then uses them for sending the automatic help > messages. However, with the IMAP filter, there's no need for the SMTP > proxy, so those were left off the configuration page. Makes sense. > It completely slipped > my notice that this would mean that you couldn't then use the automatic help > message page (without manually editing the configuration file). It's always the little things, isn't it? ;-) Thanks for your help. Now if I can just get the script working again.... From usr7-28hl at xemaps.com Thu Sep 30 09:37:44 2004 From: usr7-28hl at xemaps.com (Keith Russell) Date: Thu Sep 30 09:37:50 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] IMAP Error: Must specify server details first In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <415BB7C8.4030105@xemaps.com> (Third try) Tony Meyer wrote: > From the released source, or from CVS? (I only realised after reading your > message that the version info will appear the same for either at the moment > - I'll correct that shortly). Sorry, I forgot to answer this. I am using the released source. In fact, I thought of updating from CVS to see if it would help, and couldn't figure out the directory structure to find the file... From aw-confirm at ebay.com Thu Sep 30 07:08:43 2004 From: aw-confirm at ebay.com (aw-confirm@ebay.com) Date: Thu Sep 30 12:17:42 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] eBay Notification Message-ID: <200409300508.i8U58hmC002721@host2.globalsecureserver.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040930/e5358330/attachment.htm From theatre at rosebudtheatre.com Thu Sep 30 16:32:33 2004 From: theatre at rosebudtheatre.com (Mark Lewandowski) Date: Thu Sep 30 16:32:46 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Disabled SpamBayes? Message-ID: <69F6FCE12A211441A6747D7E6E3BAA77032EB5@ns1-rosebud.rosebudschoolofthearts.com> At home the other day, Outlook seemed to hang when starting. Often, since installing SpamBayes, it takes a moment or two to open Outlook. This time, though, it hung for about three minutes. I closed Outlook and re-opened it. When I re-opened, it gave me a warning that the Add-in SpamBayes had not opened properly and would be disabled. I could re-enable it through Outlook. Since I figured I knew how to do that, I didn't look carefully where that function was located. I didn't worry because I wasn't checking my mail, just needed a quick print of an e-mail. The next day, I tried to re-enable SpamBayes (to deal with the plethora of spam!), but cannot find the function. The tool bar is there, but nothing happens when I click on it. I cannot find it under a list of Add-in under Tools-Options-Other-Advanced Options,. I checked the Outlook Help to no avail. I even did a quick on-line search, but found nothing. Before I try to re-install, is there a simpler way (not that re-installing is hard...) Mark -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040930/3c79e3a0/attachment.html From Robert.Mezzone at PJSolomon.Com Thu Sep 30 16:39:29 2004 From: Robert.Mezzone at PJSolomon.Com (Robert Mezzone) Date: Thu Sep 30 16:39:41 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Disabled SpamBayes? Message-ID: <1254A68F4903D411B24800508B1220E90629F2EC@solomon1.pjsc.internal> Help, About Microsoft Outlook, Disabled Items button. You may have to go into the Spambayes Manager program and Enable Spambayes. hth. _____ From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Mark Lewandowski Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 10:33 AM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Disabled SpamBayes? At home the other day, Outlook seemed to hang when starting. Often, since installing SpamBayes, it takes a moment or two to open Outlook. This time, though, it hung for about three minutes. I closed Outlook and re-opened it. When I re-opened, it gave me a warning that the Add-in SpamBayes had not opened properly and would be disabled. I could re-enable it through Outlook. Since I figured I knew how to do that, I didn't look carefully where that function was located. I didn't worry because I wasn't checking my mail, just needed a quick print of an e-mail. The next day, I tried to re-enable SpamBayes (to deal with the plethora of spam!), but cannot find the function. The tool bar is there, but nothing happens when I click on it. I cannot find it under a list of Add-in under Tools-Options-Other-Advanced Options,. I checked the Outlook Help to no avail. I even did a quick on-line search, but found nothing. Before I try to re-install, is there a simpler way (not that re-installing is hard...) Mark -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040930/f6d19e8d/attachment.htm From Michael.Otto at NielsenMedia.com Thu Sep 30 19:33:18 2004 From: Michael.Otto at NielsenMedia.com (Otto, Michael) Date: Thu Sep 30 19:33:25 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Some details that could be better Message-ID: <762A181C0D966E459A2EB3B810142C7706C5C2D2@nmrusdunsx12.nmrlan.net> I have just installed SpamBayes orc-1 on top of Outlook 2003 (I used to use it with outlook 2000) and now even though I have checked "Mark spam as read" it does not do so. When I check "Mark suspected spam as read", it does that correctly, but that is not what I want. I want it to mark items as read when I delete them as spam from the suspect spam folder or from my inbox. Interestingly, it does mark spam as read if it detects it as spam (spam score over 90%) and automatically deletes it as spam. I only have the problem when I use the "delete as spam" button. This is not what I was getting with Outlook 2000 before upgrading to 2003. Do you have any suggestions? Thanks michael -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040930/700d296f/attachment.html From afurrh at bumail.bradley.edu Thu Sep 30 22:42:17 2004 From: afurrh at bumail.bradley.edu (Furrh, Andrew) Date: Thu Sep 30 22:42:20 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Question about the ratio of Spam to Ham you should train on... Message-ID: Sorry if this is asked all the time, but I couldn't figure it out from the FAQs. I know you're supposed to train Spambayes on a roughly equal amount of Spam and Ham. Does that mean you should try to train on one new Ham for every Spam you train, even if all your Ham is already being correctly identified by Spambayes? I get VASTLY more Spam than good mail, and in the last month of using Spambayes I've ended up training on over 200 spams, and only 33 hams. I started out trying to keep the numbers equal, but there's no way I can do that without training on Ham that Spambayes already easily classifies correctly. I'm using the Outlook plug-in if that matters. Overall Spambayes is doing a good job. It don't think it's ever classified any Ham as Spam, which is really the best thing about it to me. But I still end up with maybe 10 spams a day Spambayes marks as junk suspects. Thanks for any clarification you guys can give me! From rosesut at energy.iol.ie Thu Sep 30 23:32:58 2004 From: rosesut at energy.iol.ie (Rose) Date: Thu Sep 30 23:33:01 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Ports Message-ID: <001e01c4a735$0e682cb0$2101a8c0@rosesb7n5ek6z5> Hello! I have 2 email servers but I don't know what value to add to the Spambayes Ports for my second email client and as a result it doesn't work. Please help! Rose -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040930/25aab4b3/attachment.htm