From iwigle at rogers.com Fri Oct 1 00:21:04 2004 From: iwigle at rogers.com (Ian Wigle) Date: Fri Oct 1 00:21:35 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes stopped working? References: <001601c4a505$2b160760$6401a8c0@ym.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> Message-ID: <000901c4a73b$d6749490$8301a8c0@DCCRXM51> I have followed up with this advice. Spambayes succeeds in opening port 8880, as well as SMTP and POP3. These only show open with the "netstat -a" command recommended. And also, email is passed from POP3 through to localhost (forgive me if I describe this poorly...) , so that Outlook express "receives" the mail from the localhost server. However, localhost:8880 is not found by Internet Explorer when I attempt to load the various Spambayes interface pages. (home, configuration, etc.) Re-installing Spambayes source 1.0 did not correct this behaviour. Can anyone suggest someplace else to look or something to try? Many thanks, Ian Wigle > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richie Hindle" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 2:17 AM Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Spambayes stopped working? > > [Ian] > > When attempting to load HTTP://localhost:8880, I receive HTTP error 500 > > [...] > > Black Ice firewall v3.6.cnr. Come to think, that was also a recent install > > Is it possible that the firewall is blocking port 8880? Look at the > firewall configuration and try opening up port 8880. I don't use Black > Ice myself, so I can't help with the specifics. > > If that doesn't help, type the command "netstat -a" at the DOS prompt, > with and without SpamBayes running. That will tell you which ports are > open, and so will tell you whether SpamBayes is successfully opening port > 8880 and whether there's another process using it. > > -- > Richie Hindle > richie@entrian.com From richie at entrian.com Fri Oct 1 00:39:13 2004 From: richie at entrian.com (Richie Hindle) Date: Fri Oct 1 00:39:20 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes stopped working? In-Reply-To: <000901c4a73b$d6749490$8301a8c0@DCCRXM51> References: <001601c4a505$2b160760$6401a8c0@ym.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> <000901c4a73b$d6749490$8301a8c0@DCCRXM51> Message-ID: Hi Ian, > Spambayes succeeds in opening port 8880, as well as SMTP and POP3. These > only show open with the "netstat -a" command recommended. > [...] > However, localhost:8880 is not found by Internet Explorer when I attempt to > load the various Spambayes interface pages. (home, configuration, etc.) Perhaps your machine doesn't know the name 'localhost' - perhaps it has a damaged hosts file or something. Try http://127.0.0.1:8880 instead. ...and that makes me wonder whether you're entering localhost:8880 rather than http://localhost:8880 - it needs to be the latter. -- Richie Hindle richie@entrian.com From iwigle at rogers.com Fri Oct 1 00:54:32 2004 From: iwigle at rogers.com (BARB CROWTHER) Date: Fri Oct 1 00:54:38 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes stopped working? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040930225432.9745.qmail@web88101.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Thanks Richie, but I'm still stuck. Yes I've been using http://localhst:8880. And I've been using the same shortcuts, etc. for many months without trouble, until a week ago. Following your suggestion, I tried http://127.0.0.1:8880 to no avail. Again, I get the HTTP error 500 internal server error message. Thanks, Ian Richie Hindle wrote: Hi Ian, > Spambayes succeeds in opening port 8880, as well as SMTP and POP3. Perhaps your machine doesn't know the name 'localhost' - perhaps it has a damaged hosts file or something. Try http://127.0.0.1:8880 instead. ...and that makes me wonder whether you're entering localhost:8880 rather than http://localhost:8880 - it needs to be the latter. -- Richie Hindle richie@entrian.com _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040930/20d16b69/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Oct 1 01:13:41 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Oct 1 01:13:48 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Ports In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I have 2 email servers but I don't know what value > to add to the Spambayes Ports for my second email > client and as a result it doesn't work. Just pick another number, like 111, or 1110, and put that in. So in the servers option you'd have something like "pop.example.com,pop2.example.com" and in ports something like "110,111". Then in your mailer (Outlook Express?) open up Tools->Accounts, click on the Mail tab, and then double-click the (eg) pop2.example.com account. In the Advanced tab of the properties dialog that opens there is the port to connect to, which will default to 110. Change this to (eg) 111, and click OK/Close all the way back. That should be all you need to do. It doesn't matter what port number you choose, as long as it's one that isn't already in use. 111, 112, 113, 1110, 1111, 1112, 1113 are all unlikely to be already in use. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Oct 1 01:29:24 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Oct 1 01:29:31 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes stopped working? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [Ian] > Yes I've been using http://localhst:8880. And I've been > using the same shortcuts, etc. for many months without > trouble, until a week ago. > > Following your suggestion, I tried http://127.0.0.1:8880 > to no avail. Again, I get the HTTP error 500 internal > server error message. I know Richie has suggested this before, but I don't recall seeing an answer: it really looks like it's your (also new) firewall that is blocking the page. If you're using the default 'protocol level' of 'nervous' or 'paranoid' (according to the BlackIce manual) then port 8880 will probably be blocked. Try adding 127.0.0.1 to the trusted list in BlackIce: [I haven't used BlackIce, but this is what the 3.6 manual has] 1. From the Main Menu, select Tools->Edit BlackICE Settings. 2. Select the Intrusion Detection tab. 3. Click Add. The Exclude from Reporting window appears. 4. Type the IP address (127.0.0.1) in the IP box. 5. Click OK. Or just specifying the port as unblocked: 1. From the Tools menu, select Advanced Firewall Settings. 2. Click Add. The Add Firewall Entry window appears. 3. Type a name for the port (e.g. "SpamBayes web interface") in the Name field. 4. Type the port number (8880) in the Port field. 5. Select the port type (TCP) in the Type field. 6. In the Mode area, select Accept. The BlackICE application opens the port. 7. In the Duration of Rule area, select the length of time to unblock the port. [I presume there will be an 'unlimited' option, or something] 8. Click Add. BlackICE adds the entry to the list in the Advanced Firewall Settings window. =Tony Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Oct 1 02:23:08 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Oct 1 02:23:13 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Some details that could be better In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I have just installed SpamBayes orc-1 on top of Outlook > 2003 (I used to use it with outlook 2000) and now even > though I have checked "Mark spam as read" it does not do > so. When I check "Mark suspected spam as read", it does > that correctly, but that is not what I want. I want it > to mark items as read when I delete them as spam from > the suspect spam folder or from my inbox. > Interestingly, it does mark spam as read if it detects it > as spam (spam score over 90%) and automatically deletes > it as spam. I only have the problem when I use the > "delete as spam" button. It sounds like you don't have the right option selected. What settings do you have in the 'Training' tab of the SpamBayes Manager dialog? You want the bottom one to read "Clicking on Delete As Spam will mark the message as read". (Many people, including me, like having separate options for mail that you manually delete as spam, and mail that is automatically moved to the spam folder). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Oct 1 02:27:44 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Oct 1 02:27:50 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] bug ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I checked: spam manager setting is on "Posta in arrivo" in > the "Cartelle personali" folder. One more info is that I have > activated some Outlook rules in order to move e-mails to > other subfolders (I have 5 accounts, and 5 subfolders: each > account has its own subfolder; so I put rules to move the > e-mails to their own subfolders): could this be a problem ? Outlook rules run before SpamBayes, so if all the mail is leaving that folder via Outlook rules, then yes, this will be the cause. (Nothing is left in that folder for SpamBayes to deal with by the time it gets a chance). To solve it, just add those 5 folders (or tick "include subfolders") to the folders to Filter. This is in the same place as you checked before. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From brodocker at cox.net Fri Oct 1 02:29:44 2004 From: brodocker at cox.net (Brian Rodocker) Date: Fri Oct 1 02:29:49 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] re: SpamBayes is not available for all users on the machine. Message-ID: <000001c4a74d$c082e260$b803fb18@brian7acej78dn> I am using XP Prof. and SpamBayes 1.0 I want to change the registry to allow all users on this particular machine to have access to the program because all log-on individually to Windows. I found this info below on your help site, but how do I do it? When SpamBayes is installed, by default it is available only for the user who installed it. This is to allow SpamBayes to appear in Microsoft Outlook's Com-Addin list, and therefore able to be activated and de-activated by the user inside Outlook. It is possible to register the addin so it is available to all users on a particular machine, which can be useful in enterprise arrangements where users have 'roaming profiles' To register SpamBayes in this way, you must log on as a user with permissions to modify the system registry, then execute the command (obviously with the correct patch substituted): regsvr32.exe /i:hkey_local_machine "c:\Program Files\SpamBayes\bin\outlook_addin.dll" If you check the installation log after performing such an install, you should see the following messages: Registered: SpamBayes.OutlookAddin Registration complete. Registration (in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE) complete. Note the last line, which does not exist when registration is performed only for the current user. Once you have performed this registration, the Addin will be available for registry to allow all users to have access to the program. Thanks in advance for any help, Brian Rodocker -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040930/51c7e410/attachment.html From iwigle at rogers.com Fri Oct 1 02:33:02 2004 From: iwigle at rogers.com (Ian Wigle) Date: Fri Oct 1 02:33:03 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes stopped working? References: Message-ID: <007001c4a74e$371fdfe0$8301a8c0@DCCRXM51> Many thanks for all the suggestions, but.. I've added 127.0.0.1 as trusted to my firewall as per Tony's advice. Also port 8880. No effect. I have even tried disabling the firewall and restarting . Still no go. As for Spambayes behaviour: It continues to successfully open port 8880, according to report from "netstat -a", when launched as sb_server.py (no switches). With the bayescustomize.ini file configured to pull mail from my ISP's server, and Outlook Express configured to pull mail from "localhost", I can receive mail (albeit classified only as UNSURE for now). So localhost is "there", but I just can't open any pages served by that host, since localhost:8880 continues to be not found.(e.g. home, configuration, etc.) It also means that I have no smooth way to shut down spambayes, and must force the console to close. (''All changes will be lost, etc...) Should I be looking for a file/service/setting in Windows (98SE)or IE (6.0.28) that could be causing this "failure to communicate" Or has this become unfathomable? Again, thanks for any further suggestions. Cheers, Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Meyer" To: "'BARB CROWTHER'" ; ; Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 7:29 PM Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Spambayes stopped working? > [Ian] > > Yes I've been using http://localhst:8880. And I've been > > using the same shortcuts, etc. for many months without > > trouble, until a week ago. > > > > Following your suggestion, I tried http://127.0.0.1:8880 > > to no avail. Again, I get the HTTP error 500 internal > > server error message. > > I know Richie has suggested this before, but I don't recall seeing an > answer: it really looks like it's your (also new) firewall that is blocking > the page. If you're using the default 'protocol level' of 'nervous' or > 'paranoid' (according to the BlackIce manual) then port 8880 will probably > be blocked. > > Try adding 127.0.0.1 to the trusted list in BlackIce: > >> =Tony Meyer > > From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Oct 1 02:46:29 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Oct 1 02:46:34 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] re: SpamBayes is not available for all users on themachine. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I want to change the registry to allow all users on > this particular machine to have access to the program > because all log-on individually to Windows. > > I found this info below on your help site, but how do I do it? Exactly where did you find this? I'm curious because it's the old version of the instructions (and is incorrect), and both the troubleshooting guide with 1.0 and the one linked from have the new instructions. (So if there's another copy somewhere, we need to update it!). You need to: 1. Log in as someone that can modify the registry (e.g. Administrator). 2. Open a command window. (e.g. Start->Run->cmd.exe) 3. Type: "c:\Program Files\SpamBayes\bin\outlook_addin_register.exe" hkey_local_machine (My mailer may wrap this - it should all be one line. This also assumes that you installed SpamBayes in C:\Program Files\SpamBayes, which is the default. If you put it somewhere else, then make the appropriate modification. And that should be it. You can check by looking at the log, which will have "Registration (in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE) complete." in it, which will not appear when registering only for one user. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Oct 1 02:57:01 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Oct 1 03:00:49 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes / Outlook -- display/update error In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > In non-cached mode, all status information comes from > the Exchange server. There has been some speculation > that SP2 may be blocking some notification messages from > the Exchange server that would normally tell Outlook > that it should refresh its display. I'm not convinced that this is the cause (or if it is, I believe there is also another one) because I have occasionally seen this problem here, and I am not using SP2. My suspicion is that it is Exchange's fault. Either Exchange is getting too busy, or it's the result of some minor update to Exchange (I don't have any contact with my Exchange administrators, so have no idea when they install updates). It is very difficult to think of anything that SpamBayes can do to help, though. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From M.G.Faina at Thomson.com Fri Oct 1 13:47:58 2004 From: M.G.Faina at Thomson.com (Faina, Mihail) Date: Fri Oct 1 13:48:02 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] High % spam messages staying in the Inbox Message-ID: I still have this problem. Take a look at the log bellow - "Improve your Outlook on Life" message. It was scored as 100% spam and stayed in the InBox until I moved it - "deleted as spam". Curious part is this: 1. Has a Spam classification of "Yes". -> good, score 100%. 2. TRAINING (I haven't done anything for this training session to start!!) - IT IS TRAINED AS GOOD!! -> How is the question? 3. Moving (be deleting it as "Spam" by me) ->now is retrained as SPAM. If somebody can explain the second step maybe I will have solution for my problem. Thanks, Mihail Message 'Improve Your Outlook On Life ' in 'Personal Folders/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' Message 'Time to dump I.E.' in 'Personal Folders/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Training on message 'Improve Your Outlook On Life ' in 'Personal Folders/Inbox - trained as good Moving and spam training message 'Improve Your Outlook On Life ' - Training on message 'Improve Your Outlook On Life ' in 'Personal Folders/Inbox - trained as spam Ignoring OnCommand for IDC_RECOVER_RS Ignoring OnCommand for IDC_RECOVER_RS Ignoring OnCommand for IDC_RECOVER_RS Ignoring OnCommand for IDC_RECOVER_RS Ignoring OnCommand for IDC_RECOVER_RS From Administrator at bag.python.org Fri Oct 1 15:27:14 2004 From: Administrator at bag.python.org (Administrator@bag.python.org) Date: Fri Oct 1 15:27:18 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] [MailServer Notification]To Sender virus found and action taken. Message-ID: <2e5101c4a7ba$5d8269c0$0300a8c0@Executrade.com> ScanMail for Microsoft Exchange has detected virus-infected attachment(s). Sender = spambayes@python.org Recipient(s) = Patricia Gawlik Subject = hello Scanning time = 10/1/2004 7:27:14 AM Engine/Pattern = 7.000-1004/2.186.00 Action on virus found: The attachment document05.zip contains WORM_NETSKY.P virus. ScanMail has Deleted it. Warning to sender. ScanMail has detected a virus in an email you sent. From Harold.Vandeventer at dpra.com Fri Oct 1 16:59:00 2004 From: Harold.Vandeventer at dpra.com (Harold Vandeventer) Date: Fri Oct 1 17:03:06 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes / Outlook -- display/update error Message-ID: <710C39AC5BC90648B3CA31DC47D111160AE2A45C@mhk02.ad.dpra.com> My guess is the display refresh issue is related, somehow, to WinXP/SP2. I had not seen the problem prior XP/SP2. The cached mode of Outlook appears to solve it, however. I've not installed any Exchange patches (lately); I'm unfortunately responsible for that system, too. We have other Exchange issues caused by installing, under guidance from Microsoft (two 5 hour phone calls), "the latest service pack and a couple of hot fixes." But, I digress, my apologies to all. ____________________________________ Harold Vandeventer Network Administrator DPRA Incorporated 200 Research Dr Manhattan, KS 66503 Voice: (785) 539-3565 ext 1026 FAX: (785) 537-0272 -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 7:57 PM To: 'Kenny Pitt'; Harold Vandeventer; 'Tom Elliott'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Spambayes / Outlook -- display/update error > In non-cached mode, all status information comes from > the Exchange server. There has been some speculation > that SP2 may be blocking some notification messages from > the Exchange server that would normally tell Outlook > that it should refresh its display. I'm not convinced that this is the cause (or if it is, I believe there is also another one) because I have occasionally seen this problem here, and I am not using SP2. My suspicion is that it is Exchange's fault. Either Exchange is getting too busy, or it's the result of some minor update to Exchange (I don't have any contact with my Exchange administrators, so have no idea when they install updates). It is very difficult to think of anything that SpamBayes can do to help, though. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tselliott at Striglos.com Fri Oct 1 18:27:43 2004 From: tselliott at Striglos.com (Tom Elliott) Date: Fri Oct 1 18:28:00 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes / Outlook -- display/update error Message-ID: It's definitely a refresh issue, but it's not XP/SP2 related. I've seen it on Win2k machines. -----Original Message----- From: Harold Vandeventer [mailto:Harold.Vandeventer@dpra.com] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 9:59 AM To: Tony Meyer; Kenny Pitt; Tom Elliott; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Spambayes / Outlook -- display/update error My guess is the display refresh issue is related, somehow, to WinXP/SP2. I had not seen the problem prior XP/SP2. The cached mode of Outlook appears to solve it, however. I've not installed any Exchange patches (lately); I'm unfortunately responsible for that system, too. We have other Exchange issues caused by installing, under guidance from Microsoft (two 5 hour phone calls), "the latest service pack and a couple of hot fixes." But, I digress, my apologies to all. ____________________________________ Harold Vandeventer Network Administrator DPRA Incorporated 200 Research Dr Manhattan, KS 66503 Voice: (785) 539-3565 ext 1026 FAX: (785) 537-0272 -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 7:57 PM To: 'Kenny Pitt'; Harold Vandeventer; 'Tom Elliott'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Spambayes / Outlook -- display/update error > In non-cached mode, all status information comes from > the Exchange server. There has been some speculation > that SP2 may be blocking some notification messages from > the Exchange server that would normally tell Outlook > that it should refresh its display. I'm not convinced that this is the cause (or if it is, I believe there is also another one) because I have occasionally seen this problem here, and I am not using SP2. My suspicion is that it is Exchange's fault. Either Exchange is getting too busy, or it's the result of some minor update to Exchange (I don't have any contact with my Exchange administrators, so have no idea when they install updates). It is very difficult to think of anything that SpamBayes can do to help, though. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From kennypitt at hotmail.com Fri Oct 1 19:05:44 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Fri Oct 1 19:06:05 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] High % spam messages staying in the Inbox In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Faina, Mihail wrote: > I still have this problem. Take a look at the log bellow - "Improve > your Outlook on Life" message. It was scored as 100% spam and stayed > in the InBox until I moved it - "deleted as spam". Curious part is > this: > 1. Has a Spam classification of "Yes". -> good, score 100%. > 2. TRAINING (I haven't done anything for this training session to > start!!) - IT IS TRAINED AS GOOD!! -> How is the question? > 3. Moving (be deleting it as "Spam" by me) ->now is retrained as > SPAM. > > If somebody can explain the second step maybe I will have solution > for my problem. > Thanks, Mihail > > Message 'Improve Your Outlook On Life ' in 'Personal Folders/Inbox' > had a Spam classification of 'Yes' > Message 'Time to dump I.E.' in 'Personal Folders/Inbox' had a Spam > classification of 'No' > Training on message 'Improve Your Outlook On Life ' in 'Personal > Folders/Inbox - trained as good > Moving and spam training message 'Improve Your Outlook On Life ' - > Training on message 'Improve Your Outlook On Life ' in 'Personal > Folders/Inbox - trained as spam > Ignoring OnCommand for IDC_RECOVER_RS > Ignoring OnCommand for IDC_RECOVER_RS > Ignoring OnCommand for IDC_RECOVER_RS > Ignoring OnCommand for IDC_RECOVER_RS > Ignoring OnCommand for IDC_RECOVER_RS Could you include the complete logfile containing these messages? To make the logfiles more useful, it would be great if you could set your verbosity to at least 2. Go to the Advanced tab in SpamBayes Manager and click the Diagnostics button to change this. Then send in all of your spambayes?.log files the next time this happens. It sounds like you possibly have some Outlook rules running, but without the SpamBayes background filtering option turned on. By default, SpamBayes trains any spam message that is moved into the Inbox as good. The reason for this is that it assumes you must be dragging an incorrectly classified message out of the spam folder. See the Incremental Training section on the Training tab for options to control this. Without the background filtering option, it is possible for SpamBayes to analyze a message and move it to the Spam folder before Outlook rules are processed. It is then possible for the Outlook rules to cause the message to be moved back out of the Spam folder. SpamBayes sees this and thinks you are doing "drag-and-drop" training, so trains the message as good. -- Kenny Pitt From grbates at cmiav.com Fri Oct 1 15:06:47 2004 From: grbates at cmiav.com (Greg Bates) Date: Fri Oct 1 20:07:24 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] OOPS! Message-ID: <000901c4a7b7$868e1a10$2a04a8c0@cmiav.net> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041001/d98ac33a/attachment.htm From M.G.Faina at Thomson.com Fri Oct 1 21:05:19 2004 From: M.G.Faina at Thomson.com (Faina, Mihail) Date: Fri Oct 1 22:13:36 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] High % spam messages staying in the Inbox Message-ID: It didn't take to long to happen again. Look for the -Pay Your Bills with Government Money message. I didn't move this message via the "Delete as Spam" from the InBox. The background filtering check box is/was checked - Advanced tab. I set the verbosity to 4. Thanks, Mihail >Kenny Pitt wrote: >Could you include the complete logfile containing these messages? To make >the logfiles more useful, it would be great if you could set your verbosity >to at least 2. Go to the Advanced tab in SpamBayes Manager and click the >Diagnostics button to change this. Then send in all of your spambayes?.log >files the next time this happens. _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: spambayes1.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 176326 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041001/cc5561ba/spambayes1-0001.obj From richie at entrian.com Fri Oct 1 23:52:03 2004 From: richie at entrian.com (Richie Hindle) Date: Fri Oct 1 23:52:08 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes stopped working? In-Reply-To: <007001c4a74e$371fdfe0$8301a8c0@DCCRXM51> References: <007001c4a74e$371fdfe0$8301a8c0@DCCRXM51> Message-ID: [Ian] > localhost:8880 continues to be not found. Could you try telnet? I'm doing this from memory, so the details may be fuzzy, but it's something like this. At a DOS prompt, type 'telnet' to launch the Win98 Telnet application. In the first menu (I forget what it's called) there's a command Connect. Hit that, and enter 'localhost' as the Server and 80 as the Port. If there's a Terminal Type or similar, enter Raw if it's available, else ANSI or VT100. Hit the OK button (or Connect, or whatever it's called). At this point you may get a "Connection refused" message, but I doubt it given that netstat reports that the port is open. You'll probably get nothing visible happening, except for a flashing cursor in the Telnet window. Type the following, carefully - you must type it exactly as it appears, without using backspace to correct any mistakes: GET / HTTP/0.9 After the 9, hit Enter twice. If you make a mistake, you need to start again from scratch. What I'm hoping will happen is that you'll get a short error message of some kind from the SpamBayes server - IE has a habit of discarding short error messages from web servers and just displaying its own generic error page. If you get no response at all after hitting Enter, try hitting Ctrl+J and CTRL+M a couple of times alternately. Let us know what happens! -- Richie Hindle richie@entrian.com From iwigle at rogers.com Sat Oct 2 01:08:20 2004 From: iwigle at rogers.com (Ian Wigle) Date: Sat Oct 2 01:08:22 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes stopped working? References: <007001c4a74e$371fdfe0$8301a8c0@DCCRXM51> Message-ID: <001101c4a80b$8d231610$8301a8c0@DCCRXM51> Richie, your memory was perfect, although I needed to use port 8880. (I had a connection refused error when I tried just 80) I got several screen fulls of text/HTML after typing GET / HTTP/0.9, followed by a small message box with "Telnet" in the titlebar, and the message "Connection to host lost" So I tried again and spooled to a log file. (attached) First few lines: HTTP/1.1 200 OK Connection: close Content-type: text/html Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 22:34:42 GMT The HTML is the Spambayes Home page. When I save the logfile as HTML and clean up some split lines and close the form, body and html tags, I can open the page in IE, and it is the Spambayes home page, minus graphics. So it's there, but I can't get at it? Does this make sense? Does it show the way? Again, thanks to all for continued efforts. Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richie Hindle" To: Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Spambayes stopped working? > > [Ian] > > localhost:8880 continues to be not found. > > Could you try telnet? I'm doing this from memory, so the details may be > fuzzy, but it's something like this. At a DOS prompt, type 'telnet' to > launch the Win98 Telnet application. In the first menu (I forget what > it's called) there's a command Connect. Hit that, and enter 'localhost' > as the Server and 80 as the Port. If there's a Terminal Type or similar, > enter Raw if it's available, else ANSI or VT100. Hit the OK button (or > Connect, or whatever it's called). > > At this point you may get a "Connection refused" message, but I doubt it > given that netstat reports that the port is open. You'll probably get > nothing visible happening, except for a flashing cursor in the Telnet > window. Type the following, carefully - you must type it exactly as it > appears, without using backspace to correct any mistakes: > > GET / HTTP/0.9 > > After the 9, hit Enter twice. If you make a mistake, you need to start > again from scratch. What I'm hoping will happen is that you'll get a > short error message of some kind from the SpamBayes server - IE has a > habit of discarding short error messages from web servers and just > displaying its own generic error page. If you get no response at all > after hitting Enter, try hitting Ctrl+J and CTRL+M a couple of times > alternately. > > Let us know what happens! > > -- > Richie Hindle > richie@entrian.com > > _______________________________________________ > Spambayes@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Vaiano Monarch West Financial Services Home Loans & Investments 23456 Madero Ste. 215 Mission Viejo, CA 92691 Office (949) 340-8710 x 11 Fax (949) 625-9444 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041002/be049ac7/attachment.html From richie at entrian.com Sat Oct 2 21:46:49 2004 From: richie at entrian.com (Richie Hindle) Date: Sat Oct 2 21:46:54 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes stopped working? In-Reply-To: <001101c4a80b$8d231610$8301a8c0@DCCRXM51> References: <007001c4a74e$371fdfe0$8301a8c0@DCCRXM51> <001101c4a80b$8d231610$8301a8c0@DCCRXM51> Message-ID: [Ian] > Richie, your memory was perfect, although I needed to use port 8880. (I had > a connection refused error when I tried just 80) Sorry, I should have said 8880 in the first place. Well translated. 8-) > I got several screen fulls of text/HTML after typing GET / HTTP/0.9 Good. I think I know what your problem is, and I'm annoyed at myself for not realising sooner. I think your Internet Explorer is configured to use a proxy to access the web, and it doesn't know that it needs to bypass that proxy to reach localhost. Possibly that proxy is something to do with your firewall, or your virus scanner, or a download accelerator, or your ISP. In Internet Explorer, go Tools, Internet Options, Connections. If you're on dialup, select your ISP's name in the list and click Settings. If you're on broadband or a local network, click LAN Settings. If the "Use a proxy server" box is not checked, I'm wrong about all this. Hopefully it /is/ checked and you can click the Advanced button next to it. In "Do not use proxy server for addresses beginning with" add "localhost" (without the quotes, and separated from any existing entries by a semicolon). Click OK in all the dialogs, kill any Internet Explorers you have running, start a new Internet Explorer, and try again. -- Richie Hindle richie@entrian.com From iwigle at rogers.com Sun Oct 3 01:58:36 2004 From: iwigle at rogers.com (Ian Wigle) Date: Sun Oct 3 01:58:36 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes stopped working? References: <007001c4a74e$371fdfe0$8301a8c0@DCCRXM51><001101c4a80b$8d231610$8301a8c0@DCCRXM51> Message-ID: <000501c4a8db$bcafab70$8301a8c0@DCCRXM51> Thanks for the suggestion, Richie, but Internet Options was not configured to use a proxy server. However since I was in there, I tried disabling "Use automatic configuration script" with address of http: proxy:8080. This had no apparent effect either on Internet explorer or on Spambayes. Spambayes still does not work. I restored the setting. Thanks for your continued suggestions. Cheers, Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richie Hindle" To: Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Spambayes stopped working? > > [Ian] > > Richie, your memory was perfect, although I needed to use port 8880. (I had > > a connection refused error when I tried just 80) > > Sorry, I should have said 8880 in the first place. Well translated. 8-) > > > I got several screen fulls of text/HTML after typing GET / HTTP/0.9 > > Good. I think I know what your problem is, and I'm annoyed at myself for > not realising sooner. I think your Internet Explorer is configured to use > a proxy to access the web, and it doesn't know that it needs to bypass > that proxy to reach localhost. Possibly that proxy is something to do > with your firewall, or your virus scanner, or a download accelerator, or > your ISP. > > In Internet Explorer, go Tools, Internet Options, Connections. If you're > on dialup, select your ISP's name in the list and click Settings. If > you're on broadband or a local network, click LAN Settings. If the "Use a > proxy server" box is not checked, I'm wrong about all this. Hopefully it > /is/ checked and you can click the Advanced button next to it. In "Do not > use proxy server for addresses beginning with" add "localhost" (without > the quotes, and separated from any existing entries by a semicolon). > Click OK in all the dialogs, kill any Internet Explorers you have running, > start a new Internet Explorer, and try again. > > -- > Richie Hindle > richie@entrian.com > > _______________________________________________ > Spambayes@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > From graham at effectif.com Sun Oct 3 10:39:51 2004 From: graham at effectif.com (Graham Ashton) Date: Sun Oct 3 10:41:02 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes stopped working? In-Reply-To: <000501c4a8db$bcafab70$8301a8c0@DCCRXM51> References: <007001c4a74e$371fdfe0$8301a8c0@DCCRXM51> <001101c4a80b$8d231610$8301a8c0@DCCRXM51> <000501c4a8db$bcafab70$8301a8c0@DCCRXM51> Message-ID: <1096792791.3859.2.camel@ratchet.effectif.com> On Sun, 2004-10-03 at 00:58, Ian Wigle wrote: > Thanks for the suggestion, Richie, but Internet Options was not configured > to use a proxy server. > > However since I was in there, I tried disabling "Use automatic configuration > script" with address of http: proxy:8080. This had no apparent effect either > on Internet explorer or on Spambayes. Spambayes still does not work. I > restored the setting. It's at this point that I'd be running (not walking) to the Firefox download page if I was in your position. If you could try it with a different browser it would at least erradicate browser problems if it still didn't work. http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ -- Graham From graham at effectif.com Sun Oct 3 13:35:06 2004 From: graham at effectif.com (Graham Ashton) Date: Sun Oct 3 13:36:16 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Question about the ratio of Spam to Ham you should train on... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1096803306.3860.8.camel@ratchet.effectif.com> On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 21:42, Furrh, Andrew wrote: > I know you're supposed to train Spambayes on a roughly equal > amount of Spam and Ham. Does that mean you should try to train on one > new Ham for every Spam you train, even if all your Ham is already being > correctly identified by Spambayes? > I get VASTLY more Spam than good mail, and in the last month of using > Spambayes I've ended up training on over 200 spams, and only 33 hams. I'm in a similar position, and would be really interested in the opinions of the developers. I tend to train on my (already correctly classified) ham, just to try and keep the numbers even. -- Graham From richie at entrian.com Sun Oct 3 14:18:35 2004 From: richie at entrian.com (Richie Hindle) Date: Sun Oct 3 14:18:41 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Question about the ratio of Spam to Ham you should train on... In-Reply-To: <1096803306.3860.8.camel@ratchet.effectif.com> References: <1096803306.3860.8.camel@ratchet.effectif.com> Message-ID: <3arvl0lebh0umaea23qqqkcprbcn5q2k06@4ax.com> [Andrew] > I know you're supposed to train Spambayes on a roughly equal > amount of Spam and Ham. Does that mean you should try to train on one > new Ham for every Spam you train, even if all your Ham is already being > correctly identified by Spambayes? > I get VASTLY more Spam than good mail, and in the last month of using > Spambayes I've ended up training on over 200 spams, and only 33 hams. [Graham] > I'm in a similar position, and would be really interested in the > opinions of the developers. I tend to train on my (already correctly > classified) ham, just to try and keep the numbers even. I personally try to keep the numbers even, by training on correctly-classified ham. The fact that it's already correctly classified doesn't mean that training on it is no use - it's still worth doing. There's been a lot written on the wiki about training strategies - start at http://www.entrian.com/sbwiki/TrainingIdeas -- Richie Hindle richie@entrian.com From graham at effectif.com Sun Oct 3 16:12:35 2004 From: graham at effectif.com (Graham Ashton) Date: Sun Oct 3 16:13:46 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Using sb_upload.py In-Reply-To: <16714.65463.910320.116597@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <16714.65463.910320.116597@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <1096812754.3860.19.camel@ratchet.effectif.com> On Fri, 2004-09-17 at 16:16, Skip Montanaro wrote: [Graham (me)] > >> The problem is, I don't want to have to kill the proxy in order to > >> train from my drag-n-drop application. If I were to develop a means > >> for sb_server users to train from the command line and provide a > >> patch, which approach would you prefer? I was wondering if a patch > >> providing -s and -g for sb_upload would be the right thing. [Skip] > Definitive? I don't know about that. ;-) I wrote it but no longer use it. I > use my tte script for training and sb_bnfilter for scoring. As for -s and > -g flags, that would be fine. Some change in sb_server will obvious also be > necessary. I found that sb_upload.py already used -s to specify the server name, so went for a [-t (ham|spam)] option instead. I didn't need to modify sb_server.py to get this to work, so I hope whatever it is that Skip thought would need changing doesn't! I've attached two patches, one against version 1.0 and one against the HEAD of CVS. I'm using it with the drag and drop training program I mentioned in my earlier post (Spam Trainer, now released on SourceForge) to make training SpamBayes from within the Evolution mail client (or any other GNOME mail client that supports drag and drop, for that matter) really easy. I went out on a limb and added a page to the Wiki for it: http://www.entrian.com/sbwiki/SpamTrainer What do you think (of the patch)? -- Graham -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: sb_upload-1.0-training.patch Type: text/x-patch Size: 2734 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041003/ec8073ee/sb_upload-1.0-training.bin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers, Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Ashton" To: Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 4:39 AM Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Spambayes stopped working? > On Sun, 2004-10-03 at 00:58, Ian Wigle wrote: > > Thanks for the suggestion, Richie, but Internet Options was not configured > > to use a proxy server. > > > > However since I was in there, I tried disabling "Use automatic configuration > > script" with address of http: proxy:8080. This had no apparent effect either > > on Internet explorer or on Spambayes. Spambayes still does not work. I > > restored the setting. > > It's at this point that I'd be running (not walking) to the Firefox > download page if I was in your position. If you could try it with a > different browser it would at least erradicate browser problems if it > still didn't work. > > http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ > > -- > Graham > > _______________________________________________ > Spambayes@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > From iwigle at rogers.com Mon Oct 4 05:11:12 2004 From: iwigle at rogers.com (Ian Wigle) Date: Mon Oct 4 05:11:12 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes stopped working? References: <007001c4a74e$371fdfe0$8301a8c0@DCCRXM51><001101c4a80b$8d231610$8301a8c0@DCCRXM51><000501c4a8db$bcafab70$8301a8c0@DCCRXM51><1096792791.3859.2.camel@ratchet.effectif.com> <002801c4a9aa$ca57c260$8301a8c0@DCCRXM51> Message-ID: <000501c4a9bf$ceaf9e40$8301a8c0@DCCRXM51> Spambayes works fine with Firefox! Thanks, Graham. So clearly a setting has been changed in IE, to cause it to stop loading pages from localhost. If anyone can suggest where to look that would be great, but if not, at least I can now continue using Spambayes. Thanks again to all who have looked at this and given it thought. Cheers, Ian Wigle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Wigle" To: "Graham Ashton" ; Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Spambayes stopped working? > I'll try, Graham, thanks for the suggestion. I'll give it a try. > > I would be surprised if the browser alone is the issue, though. Spambayes > worked just fine with IE for some time, then just stopped working. > > I'll let you all know how I make out. > > Cheers, > Ian > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Graham Ashton" > To: > Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 4:39 AM > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Spambayes stopped working? > > > > On Sun, 2004-10-03 at 00:58, Ian Wigle wrote: > > > Thanks for the suggestion, Richie, but Internet Options was not > configured > > > to use a proxy server. > > > > > > However since I was in there, I tried disabling "Use automatic > configuration > > > script" with address of http: proxy:8080. This had no apparent effect > either > > > on Internet explorer or on Spambayes. Spambayes still does not work. I > > > restored the setting. > > > > It's at this point that I'd be running (not walking) to the Firefox > > download page if I was in your position. If you could try it with a > > different browser it would at least erradicate browser problems if it > > still didn't work. > > > > http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ > > > > -- > > Graham > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Spambayes@python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Spambayes@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > From rramesh at cyberwerx.com Mon Oct 4 07:21:06 2004 From: rramesh at cyberwerx.com (rramesh@cyberwerx.com) Date: Mon Oct 4 07:20:21 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Administration Message-ID: <200410040520.i945KCf13459@uusnwa0n.utc.com> ------------------ Virus Warning Message (on uusnwa0n) Found virus WORM_NETSKY.P in file data.rtf .scr (in message.zip) The file is deleted. --------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- Partial message is available. -------------- next part -------------- ------------------ Virus Warning Message (on uusnwa0n) message.zip is removed from here because it contains a virus. --------------------------------------------------------- From Eileen.Neave at otis.com Mon Oct 4 07:37:30 2004 From: Eileen.Neave at otis.com (Neave, Eileen) Date: Mon Oct 4 07:31:00 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Out of Office AutoReply: improved Message-ID: <789FE6909242FB459C266BA2E81DFB700A1171@otausminexs.au.otis.com> I am currently on Annual Leave I will be back on 5th October 2004 Any urgent enquiries please contact Tony Razmovski on 8338 2730 or Tony.Razmovski@otis.com From richie at entrian.com Mon Oct 4 07:57:40 2004 From: richie at entrian.com (Richie Hindle) Date: Mon Oct 4 07:57:48 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes stopped working? In-Reply-To: <000501c4a9bf$ceaf9e40$8301a8c0@DCCRXM51> References: <007001c4a74e$371fdfe0$8301a8c0@DCCRXM51><001101c4a80b$8d231610$8301a8c0@DCCRXM51><000501c4a8db$bcafab70$8301a8c0@DCCRXM51><1096792791.3859.2.camel@ratchet.effectif.com> <002801c4a9aa$ca57c260$8301a8c0@DCCRXM51> <000501c4a9bf$ceaf9e40$8301a8c0@DCCRXM51> Message-ID: [Ian] > Spambayes works fine with Firefox! Great! At least you're back up and running. > So clearly a setting has been changed in IE, to cause it to stop loading > pages from localhost. > > If anyone can suggest where to look that would be great, but if not, at > least I can now continue using Spambayes. I'm out of ideas on that one - a configured proxy server was my last chance thought. If you ever figure it out, please let us know! -- Richie Hindle richie@entrian.com From NAVMSE-SERVER at BiozoneLabs.com Mon Oct 4 15:49:39 2004 From: NAVMSE-SERVER at BiozoneLabs.com (NAVMSE-SERVER) Date: Mon Oct 4 16:01:01 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Norton AntiVirus detected a virus in a message you sent. The infected attachment was deleted. Message-ID: <94674710F8C27E49A505423696216B4A01267479@server.Headquarters.BiozoneLabs> Recipient of the infected attachment: SERVER, First Storage Group\Mailbox Store (SERVER), Laurie Laurance/Inbox Subject of the message: Mail Delivery (failure llaurance@biozonelabs.com) One or more attachments were deleted Attachment message.scr was Deleted for the following reasons: Virus W32.Netsky.P@mm was found. From bmschkerke at netcotitle.com Mon Oct 4 18:16:08 2004 From: bmschkerke at netcotitle.com (Brian M. Schkerke) Date: Mon Oct 4 18:15:44 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with "outlook_register_addin.exe" faulting upon user login. Message-ID: <20041004161543.004431E4002@bag.python.org> Windows Server 2003 Microsoft Outlook 2003 SP1 Python 2.3, full install, python23.dll in SpamBayes\bin folder removed. Python Win32 Extensions 202 SpamBayes binary version User is in Administrators local computer group and Domain Administrators global group. NOTE: My workstation is a Windows Server 2003 operating system. The Windows Server 2003 does *not* refer to the mail server. I've tried everything that seemed remotely applicable in the Outlook Addin Troubleshooting FAQ. Upon initial user login to Windows - not Outlook - an error message appears: Reporting queued error: faulting application outlook_addin_register.exe, version 0.0.0.0, faulting module ntdll.dll, version 5.2.3790.0, fault address 0x00008787. I assumed that the "Microsoft Office" item in Startup (that preloades the DLLs so Office responds faster) is responsible for initiating the Outlook/Spambayes initialization that failed, but removing that item from the Startup group did not cause the error to go away. Security Auditing in Event Viewer doesn't show any failures to access the registry or files. Outlook 2003 shows the SpamBayes addin as being configured. SpamBayes works perfectly, for that matter. Manually performing a "regsvr32 outlook_addin.dll" seems to work, but doesn't solve the problem. I recognize this might be a problem in the Python Win32 extensions rather than SpamBayes, but thought I'd start here first. If someone could point me in the right direction I could probably pursue other troubleshooting options - I'm a bit limited right now because I'm not entirely sure when outlook_addin_register.exe is executing or why. This error is a nuisance that could be taken care of by turning off error reporting - but I'd rather find out what the ultimate problem is and fix it. Especially since this is a fresh install of Windows 2003 and I'll wager it has something to do with that. Thanks in advance; I appreciate any information you might be able to give me. Spambayes1.log: Loaded bayes database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\bmschkerke\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db' Loaded message database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\bmschkerke\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db' Bayes database initialized with 676 spam and 117 good messages SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0 (July 2004) starting (with engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004)) on Windows 5.2.3790 () using Python 2.3.4 (#53, May 25 2004, 21:17:02) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Personal Folders/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Personal Folders/Junk E-mail' Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer Brian Schkerke Lead Developer NETCO, Inc. http://www.netcotitle.com (636) 925 8657 From afurrh at bumail.bradley.edu Mon Oct 4 23:12:18 2004 From: afurrh at bumail.bradley.edu (Furrh, Andrew) Date: Mon Oct 4 23:12:25 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Question about the ratio of Spam to Ham you shouldtrain on... Message-ID: Thanks for the info! I'm going to read through that. -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Richie Hindle Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 7:19 AM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Question about the ratio of Spam to Ham you shouldtrain on... [Andrew] > I know you're supposed to train Spambayes on a roughly equal > amount of Spam and Ham. Does that mean you should try to train on one > new Ham for every Spam you train, even if all your Ham is already being > correctly identified by Spambayes? > I get VASTLY more Spam than good mail, and in the last month of using > Spambayes I've ended up training on over 200 spams, and only 33 hams. [Graham] > I'm in a similar position, and would be really interested in the > opinions of the developers. I tend to train on my (already correctly > classified) ham, just to try and keep the numbers even. I personally try to keep the numbers even, by training on correctly-classified ham. The fact that it's already correctly classified doesn't mean that training on it is no use - it's still worth doing. There's been a lot written on the wiki about training strategies - start at http://www.entrian.com/sbwiki/TrainingIdeas -- Richie Hindle richie@entrian.com _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Oct 5 02:35:29 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Oct 5 02:36:39 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] High % spam messages staying in the Inbox In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > It didn't take to long to happen again. > Look for the -Pay Your Bills with Government Money message. > I didn't move this message via the "Delete as Spam" from the > InBox. The background filtering check box is/was checked - > Advanced tab. Something is moving the message back to the Inbox (and because of the incremental training options, that causes the message to be trained as ham) - but it does definitely move to the spam folder and then back. There's no indication that SpamBayes moved the message back. Do you have any Outlook rules that are set to run on the spam folder? You definitely didn't drag the message anywhere yourself? =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Oct 5 02:39:12 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Oct 5 02:39:20 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] OOPS! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I inadvertently "Deleted as Spam" my daily spam > blocker results email. How can I recover that > information so that I continue to receive this daily email? Go to your spam folder, select that message, and click the "Recover From Spam" button in the toolbar. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From avromi at earthlink.net Tue Oct 5 05:41:53 2004 From: avromi at earthlink.net (Ben, Esther, Avromi Safran) Date: Tue Oct 5 05:35:24 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Moving messages failed Message-ID: Please, I need help. I no longer can select all the messages in Junk Suspects and delete as spam. I get a popup box: "Moving a message failed as one of your folders is full. Further operations are likely to fail until you clean up this folder. This message will not be reported again until spambayes is restarted. Well, I do not know how to clean up a folder and I do not know how to restart SpamBayes. Help. Thanks. The Safran Family From clcdeviation.coordinator at otis.com Tue Oct 5 07:31:06 2004 From: clcdeviation.coordinator at otis.com (clcdeviation.coordinator@otis.com) Date: Tue Oct 5 07:30:19 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Mail Delivery (failure spambayes@python.org) Message-ID: <200410050530.i955UAO12359@uusnwa0n.utc.com> ------------------ Virus Warning Message (on uusnwa0n) Found virus HTML_Netsky.P in file email-body The file is deleted. --------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- During a routine email scan at UTC, a file attached to this message was deleted per UTC Security Policy. UTC does not allow emailing several file types due to their potential to transmit viruses. An attachment named message.scr was removed from this message. The body text of the message that included the deleted attachment can be found in the .txt file below. It is safe to open this file. If you believe this message is not business related simply delete it. 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From edumond at ddci.net Tue Oct 5 15:24:56 2004 From: edumond at ddci.net (Eric DuMond) Date: Tue Oct 5 15:25:00 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Qpopper question Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20041005081442.0261c400@mailproxy.ddci.net> Hello and thanks in advance, I am running Fedora Core 2(Linux) on a Dell PE 400SC with Spambayes version 1.0rc1. This box is checking mail on a Sun Ultra 10 running Solaris 9 and Qpopper version 4.0.5. Here is my problem. Sometimes (not always) when my email cleint (Eudora 6.1.2 or Outlook Express 6) checks mail from the Spambayes proxy the client gets hung up. When I tell the email client to bypass the Spambyes proxy it picks up mail just fine. When I look at /var/log/maillog for Qpopper (On the Ultra 10) I see that I am getting a "I/O error flushing output to client" message and it references the Spambayes proxy. Has anyone encountered this problem before? Thank you again and sorry for the lengthy description, Eric DuMond From mikes at members-insurance.com Tue Oct 5 17:34:59 2004 From: mikes at members-insurance.com (Michael K. Schummers) Date: Tue Oct 5 17:35:09 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Toolbar Message-ID: <000401c4aaf0$e092b340$220000c8@PRK94> I am pursuing a bit of a different question. I am a happy, long time user of SpamBayes. In addition to SpamBayes, I am also using NEO Pro - an Outlook extension that helps me with categorizing/indexing email. Explicitly, the two do not interact (and shouldn't). The one issue that I am pursuing is that the SpamBayes toolbar in not available in NEO. The NEO toolbars are very similiar to the Outlook toolbars but extended in function. I have been searching to see "where" the SpamBayes unique toolbar is stored/saved to see if there is any way I may be able to pull this function into the NEO toolbars but have not seen anything in the Help/Troubleshooting/WIKI files that give me any help. In NEO, I get a customize function on the toolbars that is VERY similiar to Outlook (virtually identical) but I have not been able to find the SpamBayes toolbar or any of the specific button functions. I am running the current Spambayes Outlook plugin with XP SP2 and don't have any access to NEO code so I am limited to what I can accomplish through the "normal" user UI. Can anyone give me any clue about how to accomplish this or tell me that it just can't be done? It seems possible but I haven't been able to put the pieces together. The reason for wanting to pull this off is to avoid having to switch from NEO to Outlook to process any misclassified email (a bit of a pain but not earth shattering). Thanks in advance for any help or guidance. Michael K. Schummers mikes@members-insurance.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.772 / Virus Database: 519 - Release Date: 10/1/2004 From esafran at stapkeharrisllp.com Tue Oct 5 20:34:06 2004 From: esafran at stapkeharrisllp.com (Esther Safran) Date: Tue Oct 5 20:40:39 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes not working Message-ID: I really need help: I've been using spambayes for about 8 months and been very happy with it. A few days ago when I selected "ALL" and hit "Delete As Spam", I got a pop up message from spambayes. The box said: Moving a message failed as one of your Outlook folders is full. Further operations are likely to fail until you clean up this folder. This message will not be reported again until SpamBayes is restarted." I have deleted all messages by selecting the "X" in the folders thinking that would make the folders empty, but I guess that is not solving the problem. I am now getting equal amounts of junk mail in my INBOX as well as in my JUNK SUSPECTS box. That is awful because I am dealing with hundreds per day. I do not know how to "restart" spambays as the pop up box suggests. Can you please help me. By the way, I am writing from work since I would probably have an almost impossible time looking for your response to me in my inbox which is inundated with junk. Looking forward to hearing from you. Thanks. Esther Safran Bookkeeper StapkeHarris LLP From lpotter at investran.com Tue Oct 5 22:13:39 2004 From: lpotter at investran.com (Lizbeth Potter) Date: Tue Oct 5 22:17:42 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Software install Message-ID: <04C6A88A83C54D4D9CDE6F0464066DBC073F4F@FTI_MIAMI3.FTI4OLAP.LOCAL> Hi, I am using: Windows 2000 / service pack 4 Outlook 2003 SP 1 Spambayes 1.0 (I don't know how to check it) I cannot find the location of log files The problem I am experiencing is as follows: I open outlook and see that spambayes is installed. If I click any option of spambays, it will crash my outloook and restart it. After it is restarted, the email will be filtered into the correct folder, but I don't understand why it would crash outlook first. HELP!!! Lizbeth Potter **************************************************************************** Privileged and Confidential The information contained in this e-mail message is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is proprietary, privileged, confidential, or otherwise exempt from disclosure under applicable laws. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivery to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, printing, distribution, reproduction, disclosure or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited and may be subject to legal restriction or sanction. 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All rights reserved." VERFILEDATEHI="0x0" VERFILEDATELO="0x0" VERFILEOS="0x40004" VERFILETYPE="0x1" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x57CD3" LINKER_VERSION="0x50001" UPTO_BIN_FILE_VERSION="7.0.2600.2180" UPTO_BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="6.1.8638.2180" LINK_DATE="08/04/2004 07:59:14" UPTO_LINK_DATE="08/04/2004 07:59:14" VER_LANGUAGE="English (United States) [0x409]" /> </EXE> <EXE NAME="kernel32.dll" FILTER="GRABMI_FILTER_THISFILEONLY"> <MATCHING_FILE NAME="kernel32.dll" SIZE="983552" CHECKSUM="0x4CE79457" BIN_FILE_VERSION="5.1.2600.2180" BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="5.1.2600.2180" PRODUCT_VERSION="5.1.2600.2180" FILE_DESCRIPTION="Windows NT BASE API Client DLL" COMPANY_NAME="Microsoft Corporation" PRODUCT_NAME="Microsoft® Windows® Operating System" FILE_VERSION="5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)" ORIGINAL_FILENAME="kernel32" INTERNAL_NAME="kernel32" LEGAL_COPYRIGHT="© Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved." VERFILEDATEHI="0x0" VERFILEDATELO="0x0" VERFILEOS="0x40004" VERFILETYPE="0x2" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0xFF848" LINKER_VERSION="0x50001" UPTO_BIN_FILE_VERSION="5.1.2600.2180" UPTO_BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="5.1.2600.2180" LINK_DATE="08/04/2004 07:56:36" UPTO_LINK_DATE="08/04/2004 07:56:36" VER_LANGUAGE="English (United States) [0x409]" /> </EXE> </DATABASE> From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Oct 6 05:30:01 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Oct 6 05:30:13 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes not working In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I have deleted all messages by selecting the "X" in the > folders thinking that would make the folders empty, but I > guess that is not solving the problem. I'm not sure what "X" you are selecting. What you need to do is open your junk mail folder and delete (or move) some (or all) of the messages that are in there. The junk mail folder is just a regular Outlook folder, so you deal with messages in it like you would deal with messages in any other folder (like the Inbox, for example). You'll be able to tell that it's empty, because when you select it, there will be no messages listed. Note that the "Delete as spam" button doesn't 'delete' the message as such, it remembers the message's tokens as being representation of spam, and moves it to the spam folder. (In future releases, the buttons will probably be renamed to "spam" and "not spam" to make this more clear). > I do not know how to "restart" spambays as the pop up box suggests. Simply restarting Outlook is probably enough. You might need to open up the SpamBayes Manager dialog and retick the "Enable SpamBayes" box, but I don't think so. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Oct 6 05:33:22 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Oct 6 05:33:32 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] How? and Where? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > How do I re-activate your software once it is de-activated? If it's Outlook that has de-activated it, then you do Help->About Microsoft Outlook->Disabled Items, and it should be listed there. If it's SpamBayes that has de-activated itself, then you do SpamBayes->SpamBayes Manager and tick the "Enable SpamBayes" box. > I do not have much, but I would like to send a donation. > Where do I send that? Please see: =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Oct 6 05:36:58 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Oct 6 05:37:05 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam filter not working In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I'm using MS Windows 2000 through Outlook on a network and > my filter did not work today. the error message said: > "Appears to be a problem running SpamBayes config., See > Wizard and run config. mgr. to reconfigure the filter. > > I saw nothing that referred to the word Wizard, so after > reading SpamBayes "help", I tried resetting the settings, > logging out & then in. > Pease help. The program is still not filtering and continues > to get the message error. The most typical reason for this error is that something has happened to your unsure/spam folder (perhaps it was deleted or moved to a different store). Most likely, all you need to do is tell SpamBayes where to find those again, and all will be well. To do this: 1. Open the SpamBayes Manager dialog. 2. Click the Filtering tab. You'll probably have to do this twice (it's a minor bug). 3. If either the unsure or spam folder has "" as its entry, click "Browse" next to that and locate the correct folder. 4. Go back to the General tab and tick the "Enable SpamBayes" box. Otherwise, you can try re-running the initial configuration wizard, as suggested. To get to this: 1. Open the SpamBayes Manager dialog. 2. Click the "Configuration Wizard" button. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From technic at udmail.com Wed Oct 6 08:14:29 2004 From: technic at udmail.com (technic@udmail.com) Date: Wed Oct 6 08:14:21 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Welcome to www.carderboard.com, www.x-board.com Message-ID: <20041006061420.60FBF1E4002@bag.python.org> Today it becomes a reality, cards with or without cvv2 code from USA and European countries, you can have them for funny prices on www.cardingplanet.com, www.carderboard.com, www.x-board.com And also you can find the data about USA residents, starting from the bank accounts and ending with their pants size. All this and many other things - only on our company sites. From pbelanger at forsk.com Wed Oct 6 10:42:09 2004 From: pbelanger at forsk.com (Philippe Belanger) Date: Wed Oct 6 10:43:48 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Request about an error message Message-ID: Hi, I'm using SpamBayes 1.0b1 since some time now and I'm fully satisfied with it's functionality of filtering Spam. The thing is now that I would like to configure it on another machine than mine and that I obtain unexpected messages. On my machine, I had added access to other mailboxes. I configured SpamBayes for filtering these mailboxes without any problem. On the new machine, in SpamBayes configuration, Filtering tab, when I click on the checkboxes of the other accounts mailboxes, I obtain the message : "Please select a child folder - top-level folders can not be used". Even when I do select a child folder (for example Inbox) I obtain the same message, which prevents me from doing this operation. Any idea of what's happening ? Best regards, Philippe BELANGER FORSK Tel: +33 (0)5.62.74.72.17 Fax:+33 (0)5.62.74.72.11 pbelanger@forsk.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041006/95df00e2/attachment.html From pbelanger at forsk.com Wed Oct 6 11:09:06 2004 From: pbelanger at forsk.com (Philippe Belanger) Date: Wed Oct 6 11:10:48 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Bug with 1.0b1 ??? Message-ID: Hi, I confirm the bug described in my previous mail and that I attach again to this one. After having searched through you bug database, I found that maybe 943397 and 949000 have some common aspects with it but in fact my bug must be the same as 1036868, except that I have the message I describe : "Please select a child folder - top-level folders can not be used" best regards, Philippe BELANGER FORSK Tel: +33 (0)5.62.74.72.17 Fax:+33 (0)5.62.74.72.11 pbelanger@forsk.com >> -----Message d'origine----- >> De : spambayes-bounces@python.org >> [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] >> Envoye : 06 October 2004 10:44 >> A : pbelanger@forsk.com >> Objet : Auto-response for your message to the "Spambayes" >> mailing list >> >> >> READ THIS! (If you want help.) >> >> This is an automated response to an email message you sent to the >> spambayes@python.org mailing list. Please read this message >> carefully >> to see if it answers your question(s). >> >> >> Before you do anything else: ---------------------------- >> >> Before asking a question on the list, please take a moment and check >> the frequently asked questions page: >> >> http://spambayes.org/faq.html >> >> If you are using the Outlook plug-in, please also take the time to >> read the troubleshooting guide - a copy was installed with the >> plug-in, or you can read it online: >> >> http://spambayes.org/docs.html >> >> Note that you need to include a copy of your log files with any >> message asking for help with a problem, or we won't have enough >> information to be able to help you. >> >> >> What is SpamBayes? ------------------ >> >> The SpamBayes project was formed to develop a Bayesian anti-spam >> filter, initially based on the work of Paul Graham. The major >> difference between this and other, similar, projects is the emphasis >> on testing newer approaches to scoring messages. You can read all >> about SpamBayes on the project's website: >> >> http://spambayes.org/ >> >> >> Will Spambayes run on my system/in my environment? >> -------------------------------------------------- >> >> Yes, though which tools you use and the amount of work necessary to >> get started will vary depending on your computing platform, email >> client and how you get mail from a mail server. >> >> >> I'm having trouble installing SpamBayes. Help! >> ----------------------------------------------- >> >> Please ensure that you have the latest version. As of 2004-06-26, >> this is 1.0rc2 for both the source and for the binary installer (for >> the Outlook plug-in and sb_server). If you are still having trouble, >> try looking at the bug reports that are currently open: >> >> http://sf.net/tracker/?group_id=61702&atid=498103 >> >> If you can't find anything, then else submit a bug (see below), or if >> you think it's just something you're doing wrong, ask the list. >> >> >> I found a bug. -------------- >> >> Please file a bug report: >> >> http://sf.net/tracker/?group_id=61702&atid=498103 >> >> If you post your bug report to the mailing list, there's always the >> chance it will get missed. Filing a bug report also >> provides a single >> place to collect all the data related to the bug, making it easier to >> put all the pieces together which are necessary to fix the underlying >> problem. >> >> >> Subscribing to the SpamBayes mailing list. >> ------------------------------------------ >> >> The spambayes@python.org mailing list formed in September 2002 to >> support development of the SpamBayes spam filtering system as an >> outgrowth of earlier threads on the Python developers' mailing list. >> You can subscribe to the SpamBayes mailing list using the form at >> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes >> -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Philippe Belanger Subject: Request about an error message Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 10:42:09 +0200 Size: 1140 Url: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041006/88df7a3c/attachment-0001.mht From erik.billing at selecto.se Wed Oct 6 13:48:27 2004 From: erik.billing at selecto.se (Erik Billing) Date: Wed Oct 6 13:47:15 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] mbox training of deleted massages Message-ID: <4163DB8B.6070707@selecto.se> Gretings. I used sb_mboxtrain.py to train my spambayes database from a standard unix mailbox. I noticed that the script trains all messages in the mailbox even when some of them are marked for deletion. My question is, does even the messages marked for deletion get trained? If so, how do I get around this problem? I use Mozilla as my imap client, and as most other clients, it does not remove messages from the mailbox, but merely mark them as deleted. <>Regards Erik Billing www.ekhagen.org From Michael.Otto at NielsenMedia.com Wed Oct 6 15:40:46 2004 From: Michael.Otto at NielsenMedia.com (Otto, Michael) Date: Wed Oct 6 15:41:07 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Some details that could be better Message-ID: <3F1BCF4F62009E4285037B3944B4782A34D480@NMR001OLDMSX02.enterprisenet.org> I just had my outlook upgraded to Exchange 2003 from Exchange 2000. We had changed from Outlook 2000 to OL2003 a few weeks ago with no problems regarding Spambayes. But now I find that the Spambayes toolbar is stuck on "Delete as spam", with no option to "Recover from Spam" button appearing in either the "Maybe Spam" or "Spam" folders. I have downloaded and installed Ver 1.0, with no improvement. I then uninstalled it and reinstalled Spambayes 1.0 with no change in the toolbar. I then followed the trouble shooting guide to delete the \Documents and Settings\{username}\Application Data\Microsoft\Outlook\outcmd.dat. Again, no improvement. So at this time, I have no button available to recover my spam or possible spam back to Ham. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Michael From shristi at hd2.dot.net.in Wed Oct 6 07:11:30 2004 From: shristi at hd2.dot.net.in (shristi@hd2.dot.net.in) Date: Wed Oct 6 15:50:10 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Sample Message-ID: <200410060510.i965AXk14456@uusnwa0n.utc.com> ------------------ Virus Warning Message (on uusnwa0n) Found virus WORM_NETSKY.P in file document.txt .exe (in word_doc.zip) The file is deleted. --------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- I have attached the sample. +++ Attachment: No Virus found +++ Bitdefender AntiVirus - www.bitdefender.com -------------- next part -------------- ------------------ Virus Warning Message (on uusnwa0n) word_doc.zip is removed from here because it contains a virus. --------------------------------------------------------- From brian.bingham at meetingprotocol.com Wed Oct 6 17:35:05 2004 From: brian.bingham at meetingprotocol.com (Brian Bingham) Date: Wed Oct 6 17:31:59 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes error Message-ID: <009AB05025E6234F8D09C21C36F3B3963EA418@mpwserver.meetingprotocol.local> Hello, I recenly purchased Spambayes. I have a mail server here in our office in Dallas, Tx. We also have an office in London, England where the users there dial into an IP address and can access their email via Outlook on the Dallas server. When I run Spambayes to "teach it" what is spam and ham, everything works fine for the Dallas users. However, when I run it on the London users, I get the following error: "An error occured while enumerating folders" Can you help me figure out what it is doing? Please feel free to call me with any questions you might have. Thanks, Brian Bingham Operations Manager Meeting Protocol Worldwide, Inc. 15770 Dallas Parkway Suite 1075 Dallas, Texas 75248 Direct Line ~ 972 590 3103 Main Phone ~ 972 503 6119 Fax ~ 972 503 6988 www.meetingprotocol.com From kennypitt at hotmail.com Wed Oct 6 23:29:27 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Wed Oct 6 23:30:04 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Toolbar In-Reply-To: <000401c4aaf0$e092b340$220000c8@PRK94> Message-ID: Michael K. Schummers wrote: > In addition to SpamBayes, I am also using NEO Pro > - an Outlook extension that helps me with categorizing/indexing > email. Explicitly, the two do not interact (and shouldn't). The one > issue that I am pursuing is that the SpamBayes toolbar in not > available in NEO. [snip] > > Can anyone give me any clue about how to accomplish this or tell me > that it just can't be done? >From what I can tell, NEO appears to be a completely separate application that knows how to read Outlook's storage files. SpamBayes is an add-in for the Outlook application itself, so its functionality will not be available from inside a different application. -- Kenny Pitt From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Oct 7 00:13:05 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Oct 7 00:13:12 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Bug with 1.0b1 ??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I confirm the bug described in my previous mail and that I > attach again to this one. After having searched through you > bug database, I found that maybe 943397 and 949000 have some > common aspects with it but in fact my bug must be the same as > 1036868, except that I have the message I describe : "Please > select a child folder - top-level folders can not be used" Why do you think that it's like 1036868 and not 943397/949000? From your description, it appears to be exactly the same as 943397/949000. Happily, those have already been fixed (as the bug report indicates), and so you just need to upgrade from 1.0b1 to 1.0 and the problem will be fixed. If you still have a problem when using 1.0, it's possible (though extremely unlikely, given that you get an error message) that you have the same problem as in 1036868. If so, please read the comments on the tracker, and note whether the suggested problem & solution apply to you. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Oct 7 00:16:28 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Oct 7 00:16:34 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes error In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I recenly purchased Spambayes. If you did actually "purchase" it (i.e. you paid money for it), then I would suggest that you should ask whoever you paid for support. Since SpamBayes is free, the only reason I can think of to pay for it would be to get (good & quick) support provided. (The SpamBayes license does let anyone do pretty much whatever they like with it, including sell it). > I have a mail server here in our office in Dallas, Tx. We also > have an office in London, England where the users there dial > into an IP address and can access their email via Outlook on > the Dallas server. When I run Spambayes to "teach it" what is > spam and ham, everything works fine for the Dallas users. > However, when I run it on the London users, I get the following > error: > > "An error occured while enumerating folders" Could you please give this another go (to generate the log entries) and then send us a copy of your most recent log file? (The troubleshooting guide explains where to find the logs). We really need to see all the details to figure out where the problem is. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Oct 7 00:38:20 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Oct 7 00:38:26 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] mbox training of deleted massages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I used sb_mboxtrain.py to train my spambayes database from a standard > unix mailbox. I noticed that the script trains all messages in the > mailbox even when some of them are marked for deletion. My question is, > does even the messages marked for deletion get trained? AFAIK, sb_mboxtrain trains the entire mbox that it is given, yes. > If so, how do I get around this problem? You could use one of the other training methods. (eg sb_server (web or SMTP proxy), sb_imapfilter). > I use Mozilla as my imap client, and as most > other clients, it does not remove messages from the mailbox, > but merely mark them as deleted. Do you know how they are marked as deleted? If there was a standard method of doing that, then it's possible that sb_mboxtrain could have a switch to skip those messages. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Oct 7 08:13:41 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Oct 7 08:13:46 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Some details that could be better In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > But now I find that the Spambayes toolbar is stuck on "Delete > as spam", with no option to "Recover from Spam" button > appearing in either the "Maybe Spam" or "Spam" folders. Could you check that the right folder is definitely selected for these two? (Or, to answer the same question - are unsures/spam arriving in those folders?). If that doesn't help, then please change the verbosity of the log to at least 2 (SpamBayes Manager->Advanced->Diagnostics), select the "Maybe Spam" and "Spam" folders, and send us a copy of the log (the troubleshooting guide explains where to find the log). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Oct 7 08:20:03 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Oct 7 08:20:12 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] IMAP Error: Must specify server details first In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Wow, Tony, such service! Do you find time for anything else? Well, a great many other people also work on the project, of course :) And sometimes (like now) replies can take some time (sorry) - and even then, there are still 212 spambayes@python.org messages that I would like time to address after this one... > However, I'm still having trouble. So here's the dumb newbie > question of the day: HOW do I stop the script? Ctrl-C is a perfectly valid way of stopping it - however, try not to do this when it's in the midst of a training session. I'm happy to accept suggestions of alternative methods of shutting it down. > Now, tonight, when I start the script: > > sb_imapfilter.py -b -v > > I'm not getting a browser window. The verbose output gives me > three messages, which look okay, with no errors, but no > browser. And opening a browser window and entering the URL > manually gives me an error. > > I'd send you the log, but I don't know where to find it. imapfilter doesn't have a log, just whatever gets printed to the output window. (This is the same if you run any of the scripts from source). It's very strange that you don't get an error, and can't access the web interface. Has anything else changed in this time? If you telnet to port 8880 when imapfilter is running can you connect? (Or you could use netstat to see if it's listed). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Oct 7 08:21:29 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Oct 7 08:21:44 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Using sb_upload.py In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I didn't need to modify sb_server.py to get this to work, so I > hope whatever it is that Skip thought would need changing doesn't! No, nothing was needed. > I've attached two patches, one against version 1.0 and one > against the HEAD of CVS. I've applied the HEAD one (or close enough), thanks! (1.0 is now for bugfixes only). > I went out on a limb and added a page to the Wiki for it: > > http://www.entrian.com/sbwiki/SpamTrainer I can't connect to entrian.com at the moment for some reason, but will try and remember to check this out later. Thanks for the patch! =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Oct 7 08:34:34 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Oct 7 08:34:42 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Delete as Spam in Email dialog box In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I was thinking if there was a way to include this > button into the actually Email Message window, I could > just double click on the email open it and say "delete as > spam" and. problem solved. This is requested in this tracker: [ 744558 ] Add "Delete As Spam" button to Outlook inspector window However, this was opened well over a year ago, and hasn't even managed to get a comment yet, so I wouldn't hold your breath. I presume that if it was simple Mark would already have taken care of it, and it doesn't appear to be a popular request. I would suggest that you should add your request & reasoning to that tracker, so that at least there is more evidence that the feature is desired. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From lee at darkwave.org.uk Thu Oct 7 09:56:40 2004 From: lee at darkwave.org.uk (Lee Edward Armstrong) Date: Thu Oct 7 09:57:48 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Proxy not filtering Message-ID: <4164F6B8.2070603@darkwave.org.uk> Hi there, Been using spambayes for a while now, and have come to trust it and its great, however a couple of days ago, the one i'm using at work, stoped working. I use the proxy version with netscapes mail client for one of my personal addresses at work, i also use the outlook plugin for my work address using outlook. They seem completely indipendant in training and usage. The outlook one doesn't get much mail and is still working fine. However my personal one using the proxy, is still proxying mail, but not checking them, so they don't get tagged. Nor when i go into the web interface to check on the messages, does it have them in its cache. I've just installed the latest version over the top of the older one to see if that would resolve the problem, but no such luck. from the web interface its says "SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 0.4 (February 2004)" though ??? Any ideas why it would stop working, without me altering any settings directly ??? And probably more importantly how to get it working again, as i have 150+messages i've downloaded for the morning that i'll have to manualy filter :-( Ta, Lee (not subscribed) -- Lee Edward Armstrong - http://www.darkwave.org.uk/~lee My Clothes will impress you, And my claws will undress you -The Damned From hanshenderson at csloxinfo.com Thu Oct 7 10:07:19 2004 From: hanshenderson at csloxinfo.com (Hans Henderson) Date: Thu Oct 7 10:08:45 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] IMAP script problem Message-ID: Running on XP SP2, as long as only training is done, no problem. When the inbox starts getting some incoming messages, several seem to get duplicated, and some of these even get marked for deletion, but nothing ever gets copied to the spam dump or unsure folders. But usually it doesn't even get this far, I don't know if it's when there are just more than a few messages to classify, or if it's a particular type or size of message, but spambayes seems to just quit. Please note I'm a user, not a programmer, some Win sysadmin background but a raw newbie to both Spambayes and Python. Here's a screenscrape (I've cleaned up some linebreaks, hope I left the syntax intact enough: =================================================================================== SpamBayes IMAP Filter Version 0.4 (May 2004) and engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004). Loading database D:\Data\SpamBayes\hammie.db...Loading state from D:\Data\SpamBa yes\hammie.db database D:\Data\SpamBayes\hammie.db is an existing database, with 117 spam and 32 ham Done. Training Training ham folder SBT_ham 0 trained. Training spam folder SBT_spam 0 trained. Training took 0.0160 seconds, 0 messages were trained Classifying *.Traceback (most recent call last): File "C:\Program Files\SpamBayes\scripts\sb_imapfilter.py", line 928, in ? run() File "C:\Program Files\SpamBayes\scripts\sb_imapfilter.py", line 918, in run imap_filter.Filter() File "C:\Program Files\SpamBayes\scripts\sb_imapfilter.py", line 789, in Filter self.unsure_folder) File "C:\Program Files\SpamBayes\scripts\sb_imapfilter.py", line 707, in Filter evidence=True) File "C:\Program Files\Python23\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\classifier.py", line 190, in chi2_spamprobclues = self._getclues(wordstream) File "C:\Program Files\Python23\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\classifier.py", line 493, in _getcluestup = self._worddistanceget(word) File "C:\Program Files\Python23\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\classifier.py", line 508, in _worddistancegetprob = self.probability(record) File "C:\Program Files\Python23\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\classifier.py", line 308, in probabilityassert hamcount <= nham AssertionError From pbelanger at forsk.com Thu Oct 7 11:22:21 2004 From: pbelanger at forsk.com (Philippe Belanger) Date: Thu Oct 7 11:24:59 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Bug with 1.0b1 ??? Message-ID: Thanks, My problem is solved with release 1.0. Regards, Philippe BELANGER FORSK Tel: +33 (0)5.62.74.72.17 Fax:+33 (0)5.62.74.72.11 pbelanger@forsk.com >> -----Message d'origine----- >> De : Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] >> Envoye : 07 October 2004 00:13 >> A : 'Philippe Belanger'; spambayes-bounces@python.org; >> spambayes@python.org >> Objet : RE: [Spambayes] Bug with 1.0b1 ??? >> >> >> > I confirm the bug described in my previous mail and that I >> > attach again to this one. After having searched through you >> > bug database, I found that maybe 943397 and 949000 have some >> > common aspects with it but in fact my bug must be the same as >> > 1036868, except that I have the message I describe : "Please >> > select a child folder - top-level folders can not be used" >> >> Why do you think that it's like 1036868 and not >> 943397/949000? From your >> description, it appears to be exactly the same as >> 943397/949000. Happily, >> those have already been fixed (as the bug report indicates), >> and so you just >> need to upgrade from 1.0b1 to 1.0 and the problem will be fixed. >> >> If you still have a problem when using 1.0, it's possible >> (though extremely >> unlikely, given that you get an error message) that you have the same >> problem as in 1036868. If so, please read the comments on >> the tracker, and >> note whether the suggested problem & solution apply to you. >> >> =Tony Meyer >> >> --- >> Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies >> (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about >> SpamBayes. This >> way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies >> when I'm busy. >> From or4hb5bcdha.2328 at tk2msftngp10.phx.gbl Thu Oct 7 07:30:16 2004 From: or4hb5bcdha.2328 at tk2msftngp10.phx.gbl (or4hb5bcdha.2328@tk2msftngp10.phx.gbl) Date: Thu Oct 7 13:53:59 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Thank you for delivery Message-ID: <200410070529.i975THu09005@uusnwa0n.utc.com> ------------------ Virus Warning Message (on uusnwa0n) Found virus WORM_NETSKY.P in file data.rtf .scr (in readme.zip) The file is deleted. --------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- Encrypted message is available. -------------- next part -------------- ------------------ Virus Warning Message (on uusnwa0n) readme.zip is removed from here because it contains a virus. --------------------------------------------------------- From Michael.Otto at NielsenMedia.com Thu Oct 7 15:32:04 2004 From: Michael.Otto at NielsenMedia.com (Otto, Michael) Date: Thu Oct 7 15:32:09 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Some details that could be better Message-ID: <3F1BCF4F62009E4285037B3944B4782A34D490@NMR001OLDMSX02.enterprisenet.org> Thanks for responding, Tony Yes, I am getting spam with spam score over 90% placed into the "! Spam" folder, and possible spams are going into my "! Maybe spam" folder. These are the folders which have the spambayes toolbar. I am getting the "Recover from Spam" button on the SB toolbar in the "! Maybe Spam" folder, but in the "! Spam" folder, I only see the "Delete as spam" button, which is obviously inappropriate. I see in the log (see snippet below) that it failed to create the toolbar and had to add the toolbar. This could be related: The entire log is attached. Please advise Thanks michael ============================ FAILED to add the toolbar item 'SpamBayesCommand.Manager' - (-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.', (0, None, None, None, 0, -2147467259), None) The above toolbar message is common - recreating the toolbar... ============================ -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 2:14 AM To: Otto, Michael Cc: spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Some details that could be better > But now I find that the Spambayes toolbar is stuck on "Delete > as spam", with no option to "Recover from Spam" button > appearing in either the "Maybe Spam" or "Spam" folders. Could you check that the right folder is definitely selected for these two? (Or, to answer the same question - are unsures/spam arriving in those folders?). If that doesn't help, then please change the verbosity of the log to at least 2 (SpamBayes Manager->Advanced->Diagnostics), select the "Maybe Spam" and "Spam" folders, and send us a copy of the log (the troubleshooting guide explains where to find the log). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: spambayes1.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 17169 bytes Desc: spambayes1.log Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041007/62cb4631/spambayes1.obj From joshua at waetech.com Thu Oct 7 16:28:08 2004 From: joshua at waetech.com (Joshua Olson) Date: Thu Oct 7 16:30:49 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Win32 Command Line Message-ID: <20041007143048.7F8161E4002@bag.python.org> Hi All! I've been trying to find a way to run SpamBayes from the command line against "raw" email files on Windows Server 2003. Obviously, I'm trying to integrate this with a mail server. Does anybody have any experience with this or suggestions on where I can find more information? My initial searches have come up empty handed. Thanks in advance. <><><><><><><><><><> Joshua Olson Web Application Engineer WAE Tech Inc. http://www.waetech.com/service_areas/ 706.210.0168 From richie at entrian.com Thu Oct 7 17:31:10 2004 From: richie at entrian.com (Richie Hindle) Date: Thu Oct 7 17:30:59 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Qpopper question In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20041005081442.0261c400@mailproxy.ddci.net> References: <6.1.2.0.0.20041005081442.0261c400@mailproxy.ddci.net> Message-ID: [Eric] > Sometimes (not always) when my email cleint (Eudora 6.1.2 or Outlook > Express 6) checks mail from the Spambayes proxy the client gets hung up. > When I tell the email client to bypass the Spambyes proxy it picks up mail > just fine. When I look at /var/log/maillog for Qpopper (On the Ultra 10) I > see that I am getting a "I/O error flushing output to client" message and > it references the Spambayes proxy. I've never seen this before. You can get more information by turning on POP3 logging for sb_server - add: [globals] verbose=True to bayescustomize.ini and it will create a log file called _pop3proxy.log containing the POP3 conversation. That might give some more clues as to what's going on. -- Richie Hindle richie@entrian.com From richie at entrian.com Thu Oct 7 17:33:04 2004 From: richie at entrian.com (Richie Hindle) Date: Thu Oct 7 17:32:50 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Proxy not filtering In-Reply-To: <4164F6B8.2070603@darkwave.org.uk> References: <4164F6B8.2070603@darkwave.org.uk> Message-ID: [Lee] > However my personal one using the proxy, is still proxying mail, but not > checking them, so they don't get tagged. Nor when i go into the web > interface to check on the messages, does it have them in its cache. Are you sure your email client is still using the proxy to collect mail? Is it possible that something has reset your email client to go directly to the server? Or could you be using a new profile (or personality or whatever they're called) which isn't set up to use the proxy? -- Richie Hindle richie@entrian.com From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Oct 7 22:49:44 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Oct 7 22:49:51 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Win32 Command Line In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I've been trying to find a way to run SpamBayes from the > command line against "raw" email files on Windows Server > 2003. Obviously, I'm trying to integrate this with a mail > server. Does anybody have any experience with this or > suggestions on where I can find more information? My initial > searches have come up empty handed. You need to be running from source, and the sb_filter script is probably a good place to start. You may wish to read: . =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From joshua at waetech.com Thu Oct 7 23:01:35 2004 From: joshua at waetech.com (Joshua Olson) Date: Thu Oct 7 23:04:17 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Win32 Command Line In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20041007210415.EFB471E4002@bag.python.org> > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] > Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 4:50 PM > > > I've been trying to find a way to run SpamBayes from the > command line > > against "raw" email files on Windows Server 2003. Obviously, I'm > > trying to integrate this with a mail server. Does anybody have any > > experience with this or suggestions on where I can find more > > information? My initial searches have come up empty handed. > > You need to be running from source, and the sb_filter script > is probably a good place to start. > > You may wish to read: . Tony, Thanks for the read. Most of the material is for *nix in that link. I spent a considerable amount of the afternoon trying to make everything work from the command line. After making every conceivable newbie error in the book, I did manage to make it do something. Eventually, I tried to use sb_mboxtrain.py, and then encountered an error that I think is a killer... ImportError: No module named fcntl I did some research on the web and it seems that the module isn't available on Windows... Ut oh! If I could use the database created by my Outlook plugin then I'd be ok, but I don't think that'd work. sp_filter.py doesn't throw that error, but doesn't seem to work quite right either. I have a known spam on my disk called spam1.mai and I've tried the following: sb_filter.py | type spam1.mai Error: bsddb._db.DBNoSuchFileError: (2, 'No such file or directory') I'm sure it has something to do with the configuration, but I don't know where to start... I've followed (I hope) all the install instructions. Is there a step-by-step reference specifically for Windows command line training and scoring? If not I'll happily write one at the end of this tirade. Thoughts? <><><><><><><><><><> Joshua Olson Web Application Engineer WAE Tech Inc. http://www.waetech.com/service_areas/ 706.210.0168 From Allen.Jones at vpgroup.com Thu Oct 7 23:39:03 2004 From: Allen.Jones at vpgroup.com (Jones Allen) Date: Thu Oct 7 23:38:48 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Hiding the New Mail Icon Message-ID: I read all the comments in the Feature Request #774978. I don't have logon account, so I'm sending my comments this way. It seems that you are able to remove the envelope icon if you want, but you don't know when to do that. May I suggest the following approach: As SpamBayes reads the folders it knows about, if it finds at least one ham email, it should leave the icon alone. If it does not find at least one ham message, then it should remove the icon. Allow users to enable or disable this feature, so if they have some complicated rule structure or folders that are not scanned by SpamBayes, then they can choose whether or not to let SpamBayes control the icon. I think this would work for most users. At least it would for me: I have SpamBayes configured to scan my Inbox only. At worst, they would be left with the operation as it is. Also, last but not least, thank you for a very good spam solution! Allen Jones VantagePoint Systems, Inc. T: 604-685-4209 x 243 F: 604-685-4186 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041007/a1fb8e46/attachment.htm From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Oct 8 00:09:42 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Oct 8 00:09:47 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Win32 Command Line In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Thanks for the read. Most of the material is for *nix in > that link. True, although the process itself is probably the same, and the SpamBayes tools to use are the same. > I spent a considerable amount of the afternoon trying to make > everything work from the command line. After making every > conceivable newbie error in the book, I did manage to make > it do something. Eventually, I tried to use sb_mboxtrain.py, > and then encountered an error that I think is a killer... > ImportError: No module named fcntl FCNTL isn't available on Windows, so if sb_mboxtrain does need it then that would be a killer. There is a patch (I'm not familiar with it) to get mboxtrain to work with Windows: [ 857937 ] sb_mboxtrain was not running on windows IMO, you'd be better off with sb_filter, anyway. > If I could use the database created by my Outlook > plugin then I'd be ok, but I don't think that'd work. The token database that SpamBayes uses is the same, whichever script you're using. Outlook has an additional message information database which is only for Outlook (sb_server and sb_imapfilter have a different one), but you shouldn't need that for anything command-line based. > sp_filter.py doesn't throw that error, but doesn't seem to > work quite right either. I have a known spam on my disk > called spam1.mai and I've tried the following: > > sb_filter.py | type spam1.mai > > Error: bsddb._db.DBNoSuchFileError: (2, 'No such file or directory') > > I'm sure it has something to do with the configuration, but I > don't know where to start... I've followed (I hope) all the install > instructions. sb_filter needs to know where the database is stored, or be told to create a new database. Either put the appropriate entries in the bayescustomize.ini file, or use the -d switch to indicate where the database is (optionally also with the -n switch to create a new database). BTW, although the -g and -s switches are marked as experimental, I believe that they are working. So you could have something like: sb_filter.py -d "C:\Documents and Settings\{username}\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db" < spam1.mai (without the wrapping) to classify, and: sb_filter.py -s -d "C:\Documents and Settings\{username}\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db" < spam1.mai to train (as spam). > Is there a step-by-step reference specifically for Windows > command line training and scoring? Not to my knowledge, although I'm not that familiar with what's currently on the wiki. > If not I'll happily write one at the end of this tirade. That would be great :) =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Oct 8 00:14:10 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Oct 8 00:15:34 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: IMAP script problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [...] > probabilityassert hamcount <= nham > AssertionError This indicates that the database is bad. There is an entry that has been seen in more ham messages than you have trained on, which is impossible. There are two solutions: 1. (Recommended). Delete the databases and retrain from scratch. It generally only takes about 20 messages to be getting excellent results, so it's not much of a burden. 2. Use the sb_dbexpimp.py to convert the database to csv, open it in (eg) Excel, correct the ham/spam counts at the top to be at least as large as any of the ham/spam counts, then use sb_dbexpimp.py to convert it back to bsddb/pickle. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Oct 8 00:41:05 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Oct 8 00:41:09 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Win32 Command Line In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I'm not sure what this means. Does this mean that I should > be able to find and use the database created by Outlook? Yes. > I poked around and didn't see it, but if you are implying this, > then I will try again. The easiest way to find it is to open up Outlook and do SpamBayes->SpamBayes Manager->Advanced->Show Data Folder. The file you're after is called default_bayes_database.db. > I greatly appreciate the help you've provided with this. No worries. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From hanshenderson at csloxinfo.com Fri Oct 8 06:00:54 2004 From: hanshenderson at csloxinfo.com (Hans Henderson) Date: Fri Oct 8 06:01:46 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: IMAP script problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <380A2C004336190C203CCCC6@hans.main.shrewsbury.ac.th> Thanks Tony, I took the first option and everything seems to be OK now. Next question - the docs state to try to keep the quantity of spam and ham trained balanced, but I get a LOT more spam than ham. I've done this with the initial training set, but unfortunately my ham sample was much older than the spam, as I don't keep old spam But is there any harm in putting a larger amount of spam than ham from the unsure folder into the training folders ongoing? --On 08 October 2004 11:14 +1300 Tony Meyer wrote: > [...] >> probabilityassert hamcount <= nham >> AssertionError > > This indicates that the database is bad. There is an entry that has been > seen in more ham messages than you have trained on, which is impossible. > There are two solutions: > > 1. (Recommended). Delete the databases and retrain from scratch. It > generally only takes about 20 messages to be getting excellent results, so > it's not much of a burden. > > 2. Use the sb_dbexpimp.py to convert the database to csv, open it in (eg) > Excel, correct the ham/spam counts at the top to be at least as large as > any of the ham/spam counts, then use sb_dbexpimp.py to convert it back to > bsddb/pickle. > > =Tony Meyer > > --- > Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies > (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This > way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. > > From noreply at paypal.com Fri Oct 8 07:03:03 2004 From: noreply at paypal.com (noreply@paypal.com) Date: Fri Oct 8 07:02:11 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Thank you! 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I'm already training I Hate Spam to find spam, and I don't need to retrain SpamBayes. How do I uninstall SpamBayes? Thanks, Brian Storrs BStorrs@san.rr.com 10580 Vista Valle Dr, San Diego, CA 92131 telephone: (858) 695-1696 {|:+> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041007/fdc94820/attachment.htm From courteouslyponders at pacbell.net Fri Oct 8 09:35:40 2004 From: courteouslyponders at pacbell.net (Angela McCartney) Date: Fri Oct 8 09:35:42 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] ENlI|ARGE |N I WEEK|1lY! Message-ID: <20041008073540.CFB1B1E4002@bag.python.org> http://Xana1x_VaIlum_C|a||is_.......and___mO000Ore http://Xana|x_Va1Ium_C1alIis_Vl|aggar_.......and___m0O000re http://Xana|x_Va|Ium_C1a|1is_Vl|aggar_CO0O00de|ne.......and___m0O0O0re PlEASE CIICK HERE http://powered.sdmnfxc.com./as#taproots From lee at darkwave.org.uk Fri Oct 8 11:19:44 2004 From: lee at darkwave.org.uk (Lee Edward Armstrong) Date: Fri Oct 8 11:20:51 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Proxy not filtering Message-ID: <41665BB0.8060900@darkwave.org.uk> Hi there, Been using spambayes for a while now, and have come to trust it and its great, however a couple of days ago, the one i'm using at work, stoped working. I use the proxy version with netscapes mail client for one of my personal addresses at work, i also use the outlook plugin for my work address using outlook. They seem completely indipendant in training and usage. The outlook one doesn't get much mail and is still working fine. However my personal one using the proxy, is still proxying mail, but not checking them, so they don't get tagged. Nor when i go into the web interface to check on the messages, does it have them in its cache. I've just installed the latest version over the top of the older one to see if that would resolve the problem, but no such luck. from the web interface its says "SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 0.4 (February 2004)" though ??? Any ideas why it would stop working, without me altering any settings directly ??? I know its definatly proxying, as if i stop spambayes, i can't connect to the server, re-start and spam comes sailing though !!! And probably more importantly how to get it working again, as i have 150+messages i've downloaded for the morning that i'll have to manualy filter :-( Ta, Lee -- Lee Edward Armstrong - http://www.darkwave.org.uk/~lee My Clothes will impress you, And my claws will undress you -The Damned From joshua at waetech.com Fri Oct 8 16:56:20 2004 From: joshua at waetech.com (Joshua Olson) Date: Fri Oct 8 16:59:00 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Win32 Command Line In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20041008145858.A5ABD1E4002@bag.python.org> > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] > Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 6:10 PM > > So you could have something like: > > sb_filter.py -d "C:\Documents and > Settings\{username}\Application > Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db" < spam1.mai Tony, Moving right along now. You were exactly correct as to the location of the Outlook spam database. I found it and have attempted the above command. At this point I wish I new Python... :-) I receive the following error: Traceback (most recent call last): File "C:\sb\scripts\sb_filter.py", line 257, in ? main() File "C:\sb\scripts\sb_filter.py", line 245, in main mbox = mboxutils.getmbox(fname) File "C:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\mboxutils.py", line 66, in getmbox return [get_message(sys.stdin)] File "C:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\mboxutils.py", line 127, in get_message obj = obj.read() IOError: [Errno 9] Bad file descriptor Does this mean that the message is in the wrong format? Perhaps it's not a true Unix mbox format? I tried to google the actual specification for the mbox format, and the only reference regarding the format I could find was that the message started after the "From:" That's not a lot of help! So, I looked over the code, just in case I could figure something out. It seems that the code is written to handle malformed messages gracefully with a lovely try/except construct. It's failing when it tries to read in the string. So I looked around some more and I see that I should be able to pass it +[directory] to process files in a directory. Now I get this error: Traceback (most recent call last): File "C:\sb\scripts\sb_filter.py", line 257, in ? main() File "C:\sb\scripts\sb_filter.py", line 245, in main mbox = mboxutils.getmbox(fname) File "C:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\mboxutils.py", line 72, in getmbox mh = mhlib.MH() File "C:\Python23\lib\mhlib.py", line 107, in __init__ if not os.path.isdir(path): raise Error, 'MH() path not found' mhlib.Error: MH() path not found I looked in mhlib.py and I see that lines 106 and 107 are as follows: 106 path = os.path.expanduser(path) 107 if not os.path.isdir(path): raise Error, 'MH() path not found' That made me think perhaps it was a problem with running Python on Windows. So I grabbed and installed Mark Hammonds Win32 Extensions. Didn't fix it... Any thoughts? <><><><><><><><><><> Joshua Olson Web Application Engineer WAE Tech Inc. http://www.waetech.com/service_areas/ 706.210.0168 From GorukR at pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca Fri Oct 8 17:47:01 2004 From: GorukR at pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca (GorukR@pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca) Date: Fri Oct 8 17:47:06 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Suggestion Message-ID: <98A05A426B6C264F877E1918C6DEDFC102B2795D@msgpacrhq1.rhq.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca> Hi there....great software!! Wondering if Spambayes can be turned off under certain conditions. I occasionally need to access our network and e-mail through a dial-up connection to send or receive an e-mail or two. This connection is sometimes very slow, 28.8 and slower. Spambayes starts immediately when Outlook opens....while it is working it is a slow process to send and/or receive e-mail over 28.8. It would be great to have an option of stopping (temporarily) Spambayes until one could get to a fast network connection. Thanks Ron Goruk Campbell River, B.C. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041008/428f59e6/attachment.html From richie at entrian.com Fri Oct 8 22:30:52 2004 From: richie at entrian.com (Richie Hindle) Date: Fri Oct 8 22:30:56 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Proxy not filtering In-Reply-To: <41665BB0.8060900@darkwave.org.uk> References: <41665BB0.8060900@darkwave.org.uk> Message-ID: <60udm097gn4go4l9fscb258dlml34adq57@4ax.com> [Lee] > the proxy, is still proxying mail, but not > checking them, so they don't get tagged. Nor when i go into the web > interface to check on the messages, does it have them in its cache. > [...] > I know its definatly proxying, as if i stop spambayes, i can't connect > to the server, re-start and spam comes sailing though !!! If you view the raw headers of the messages that have come through the proxy, which "X-Spambayes-" headers are there? In particular, are there any X-Spambayes-Exception headers? You don't say how you're tagging the messages, but if you were using To: or Subject: annotation, perhaps the annotation settings have been lost? Try reconfiguring them. Sorry I can't be more helpful, but I don't know what might be causing this. -- Richie Hindle richie@entrian.com From tim.peters at gmail.com Fri Oct 8 22:51:46 2004 From: tim.peters at gmail.com (Tim Peters) Date: Fri Oct 8 22:52:06 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Suggestion In-Reply-To: <98A05A426B6C264F877E1918C6DEDFC102B2795D@msgpacrhq1.rhq.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca> References: <98A05A426B6C264F877E1918C6DEDFC102B2795D@msgpacrhq1.rhq.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca> Message-ID: <1f7befae041008135147686039@mail.gmail.com> [gorukr@pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca] > Hi there....great software!! Wondering if Spambayes can be turned off under > certain conditions. I occasionally need to access our network and e-mail > through a dial-up connection to send or receive an e-mail or two. This > connection is sometimes very slow, 28.8 and slower. Spambayes starts > immediately when Outlook opens.... Here I'm guessing you're using the Outlook addin. If so, click on SpamBayes, then SpamBayes Manager, then remove the check mark from the "Enable SpamBayes" box and click Close. > while it is working it is a slow process to send and/or receive e-mail over 28.8. SB doesn't have anything to do with *sending* email, so disabling SB won't speed that part. > It would be great to have an option of stopping (temporarily) Spambayes until > one could get to a fast network connection. As above. You re-enable SpamBayes via the same procedure (restore the check mark on the "Enable SpamBayes" box). If you then close and reopen Outlook, SpamBayes will automatically scan your Inbox and classify messages it missed while it was disabled. From bandrews at trendinfluence.com Sat Oct 9 15:50:31 2004 From: bandrews at trendinfluence.com (Bryan D. Andrews) Date: Sat Oct 9 15:52:15 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes 1.0 Issue with Sp2 Message-ID: Strangest thing... a user with XPsp2 cannot use spambayes properly as clicking "delete as spam" or "recover from spam" does not have the expected results. Multiple selects don't do anything and I have managed (after uninstall and reinstall) to get a message to "delete as spam", but only after you click the button - then click on another message... Before I start sending logs and such I wanted to check to see if this sounds familiar. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041009/2adacfd7/attachment.htm From sbrahul at gmail.com Mon Oct 11 08:58:07 2004 From: sbrahul at gmail.com (Rahul Shinde) Date: Mon Oct 11 08:58:11 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Anti-Spam for SMS Message-ID: <2201b032041010235864af2326@mail.gmail.com> Hi All, Can SpamBayes be extended for filtering SMS's ? Something like accepting SMS data over socket and replying back if this is a spam/ham or unsure through the headers as in the mail case. One easy way i can think of is converting the SMS to Email type headers and giving it to SpamBayes and receiving the same back. Any other methods/solutions so that this can be extended for SMS ? Thanx -Rahul From basil.grose at tiscali.co.uk Mon Oct 11 12:22:58 2004 From: basil.grose at tiscali.co.uk (basil.grose@tiscali.co.uk) Date: Mon Oct 11 12:22:59 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy: Configuring Outlook Express 6 to work with Spambayes Message-ID: <20041011102258.260D01E4002@bag.python.org> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: SpamBayesServer1.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 818 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041011/8ef5a9e6/SpamBayesServer1.obj -------------- next part -------------- I am using SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 1.0rc2 (June 2004) (binary), with version 2.3.3 (#51, Feb 13 2004, 14:39:56) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] of Python; my operating system is Windows 4.10.67766446.1 ( A ). I have trained 0 ham and 0 spam. The problem I am having is I don't know how to configure Outlook Express 6 to work with Spambayes. From lee at darkwave.org.uk Mon Oct 11 12:55:58 2004 From: lee at darkwave.org.uk (Lee Edward Armstrong) Date: Mon Oct 11 12:57:05 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Non filtering proxy Message-ID: <416A66BE.4000406@darkwave.org.uk> Hi there, Right, i've checked the headers and i'm getting an exception : X-Spambayes-Exception: Traceback (most recent call last): . File "sb_server.pyc", line 450, in onRetr . File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 190, in chi2_spamprob . File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 493, in _getclues . File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 508, in _worddistanceget . File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 308, in probability .AssertionError Any ideas, how i've killed it ? Ta, Lee -- Lee Edward Armstrong - http://www.darkwave.org.uk/~lee My Clothes will impress you, And my claws will undress you -The Damned From johnt at amileasing.com Mon Oct 11 14:35:34 2004 From: johnt at amileasing.com (Tsombakos, John) Date: Mon Oct 11 14:39:54 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook freezing every day Message-ID: <98385AF6669BD511B69800508BB34FEE05FED021@mail.amileasing.com> Help! I've installed the 1.0 version of Spambayes (Outlook plugin - Outlook 2000, exchange server 5), but it is still freezing up Outlook. It doesn't happen during the day and the junk mail flows in, just overnight. My setup is I have personal folders that my email get delivered to - it first comes to my Mailbox, then Outlook "delivers" the mail to my personal folders. I then have some rules that move the messages to various sub-folders. I've tried different combinations of telling Spambays which folder to scan - the Mailbox/Inbox (which is the Exchange server), the Personal Folders/Inbox, and both. I've played with the background timer settings - turning off, turning on, changing the delay times. But sometime during the night, Spambayes just goes to la-la land, and takes Outlook with it. I have to kill the Outlook task and restart. Is there anything I can do? Are there suggested/recommended delay times to use? It's driving me crazy having to have to restart outlook every day. The Spambayes log does not show any errors - Here's the last bit of the log before it died: New message timer started - id=22533, delay=3000 The timer with id=22533 fired Moved message 'Rosalyn is the paper ready yet?' to folder 'Mailbox - Tsombakos, John/New Spam' Message 'Rosalyn is the paper ready yet?' in 'Personal Folders/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' New message timer started - id=22525, delay=2000 The timer with id=22525 fired The new message timer found no new items, so is stopping New message timer started - id=22510, delay=3000 The timer with id=22510 fired Moved message 'Publicite x Email icsc bqilrvazbtqaw' to folder 'Mailbox - Tsombakos, John/New Spam' Message 'Publicite x Email icsc bqilrvazbtqaw' in 'Personal Folders/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' New message timer started - id=22506, delay=2000 The timer with id=22506 fired The new message timer found no new items, so is stopping Here is the beginning of the next log, after I restarted Outlook: System verbosity set to 1 No old pickle file to migrate Loaded bayes database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\johnt\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db' Loaded message database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\johnt\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db' Bayes database initialized with 254 spam and 81 good messages Loaded databases in 8.10215ms SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0 (July 2004) starting (with engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004)) on Windows 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 4) using Python 2.3.3 (#51, Dec 18 2003, 20:22:39) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] Folder 'Personal Folders/Inbox' already has field 'Spam' SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Personal Folders/Inbox' Folder 'Mailbox - Tsombakos, John/New Spam' already has field 'Spam' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Mailbox - Tsombakos, John/New Spam' Folder 'Personal Folders/Spam-Possible' already has field 'Spam' Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer New message timer started - id=22464, delay=3000 The timer with id=22464 fired Moved message 'Sleep Better Tonight; Stop Grinding Your Teeth' to folder 'Mailbox - Tsombakos, John/New Spam' Message 'Sleep Better Tonight; Stop Grinding Your Teeth' in 'Personal Folders/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' Thanks. ________ From bob at 1776.com Mon Oct 11 16:32:21 2004 From: bob at 1776.com (Robert K. Coe) Date: Mon Oct 11 17:04:12 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Suggestion In-Reply-To: <98A05A426B6C264F877E1918C6DEDFC102B2795D@msgpacrhq1.rhq.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca> Message-ID: <000901c4af9f$1f73cc40$6501a8c0@CambridgeMA.GOV> If anything, the impact of Spambayes ought to be less noticeable with a slow connection, since the load it produces would be less likely to have an impact on the actual transmission speed.?An exception would be if you're?talking to?an Exchange server, because moving a message to the spam folder might involve a transmission back over the line. You can prevent that by putting your?spam folders in a local .pst file instead of on the server (which would be the default). Bob? -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of GorukR@pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 11:47 AM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Suggestion Hi there....great software!! Wondering if Spambayes can be turned off under certain conditions. I occasionally need to access our network and e-mail through a dial-up connection to send or receive an e-mail or two. This connection is sometimes very slow, 28.8 and slower. Spambayes starts immediately when Outlook opens....while it is working it is a slow process to send and/or receive e-mail over 28.8. It would be great to have an option of stopping (temporarily) Spambayes until one could get to a fast network connection. Thanks Ron Goruk Campbell River, B.C. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041011/0de2ce0d/attachment.html From bob at 1776.com Mon Oct 11 16:18:52 2004 From: bob at 1776.com (Robert K. Coe) Date: Mon Oct 11 17:04:17 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes 1.0 Issue with Sp2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000501c4af9d$3ced2fc0$6501a8c0@CambridgeMA.GOV> I don't seem to have that problem. I?use?1.0rc2 with XP Pro SP2 and Outlook 2000. Bob? -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of Bryan D. Andrews Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 9:51 AM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes 1.0 Issue with Sp2 Strangest thing a user with XPsp2 cannot use spambayes properly as clicking ?delete as spam? or ?recover from spam? does not have the expected results. ? Multiple selects don?t do anything and I have managed (after uninstall and reinstall) to get a message to ?delete as spam?, but only after you click the button ? then click on another message ? Before I start sending logs and such I wanted to check to see if this sounds familiar. ? Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041011/1b1ae73e/attachment.htm From esp at parham.org Mon Oct 11 17:57:02 2004 From: esp at parham.org (Sean Parham) Date: Mon Oct 11 17:57:08 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Thanks Message-ID: <0MKz5u-1CH2Xp2jnl-0003lu@mrelay.perfora.net> Thanks for all your hard work on SpamBayes. It rocks! Sean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041011/049a1055/attachment.htm From richie at entrian.com Mon Oct 11 18:48:40 2004 From: richie at entrian.com (Richie Hindle) Date: Mon Oct 11 18:48:46 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy: Configuring Outlook Express 6 to work with Spambayes In-Reply-To: <20041011102258.260D01E4002@bag.python.org> References: <20041011102258.260D01E4002@bag.python.org> Message-ID: [Basil] > The problem I am having is I don't know how to configure Outlook > Express 6 to work with Spambayes. See the "POP3 Proxy" section in the README that came with the software. Or view it online here: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/*checkout*/spambayes/spambayes/README.txt?rev=HEAD&content-type=text/plain -- Richie Hindle richie@entrian.com From richie at entrian.com Mon Oct 11 18:52:58 2004 From: richie at entrian.com (Richie Hindle) Date: Mon Oct 11 18:53:04 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Non filtering proxy In-Reply-To: <416A66BE.4000406@darkwave.org.uk> References: <416A66BE.4000406@darkwave.org.uk> Message-ID: [Lee] > Right, i've checked the headers and i'm getting an exception : > [...] > File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 308, in probability .AssertionError Ah. The good news is that that tells us what's wrong. The bad news is that your training database has become corrupted. You need to stop SpamBayes, delete the file, which is called something like "C:\Documents and Settings\Lee\Application Data\SpamBayes\Proxy\statistics_database.db", restart SpamBayes and retrain it from scratch. We don't know what causes such corruption I'm afraid. Before you delete your database, someone else might come along with more of an idea of how you might be able to recover it, but I don't know of a way. -- Richie Hindle richie@entrian.com From lrawson at conception.edu Mon Oct 11 22:13:43 2004 From: lrawson at conception.edu (Lance S. Rawson) Date: Mon Oct 11 22:13:55 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Merging .db files Question Message-ID: <6B007A2DF432D411BE4300902717818301305FC3@nts03.conception.edu> Dear Spambayes, I was wondering how I can merge/combined the training .db files from two separate computers without losing any of the past training info. Essentially I want to create one large .db file from to different .db files. I read 3.5 and 3.6 from the frequently asked questions and I performed the back up of my Spambays database files under \application data\spambayes. Can this be done with a text editor or with Microsoft Access? I am running version 1.0 in Outlook XP in Windows XP Professional SP2. Thank you very much for your wonderful Spambayes application. Cheers, Lance -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041011/87836a02/attachment.html From Christopher.Woo at pepperdine.edu Tue Oct 12 00:26:30 2004 From: Christopher.Woo at pepperdine.edu (Woo, Christopher) Date: Tue Oct 12 00:27:04 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problems with switching to MySQL for dbase Message-ID: Well, it happened. My databases got corrupted. No sense in crying over spilt milk, but I would like to prevent further corruption, so I've decided to migrate my databases over to MySQL, seeing as it is already running on my SpamBayes box. Unfortunately, I ran into several problems: 1. I could not get it to use anything other than the default settings. Setting the database name to the string: "host:localhost user:foo pass:foobar dbase:spambayes" resulted in spambayes attempting to access mySQL with user name "@localhost" which makes me suspect it's parsing the string incorrectly. I got around this by granting the defaults access to my spambayes database, but upon doing so, I got... 2. This error: ============================================================ C:\spambayes\scripts>sb_imapfilter.py -b SpamBayes IMAP Filter Version 0.4 (May 2004) and engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004). Traceback (most recent call last): File "C:\spambayes\scripts\sb_imapfilter.py", line 1020, in ? run() File "C:\spambayes\scripts\sb_imapfilter.py", line 947, in run classifier = storage.open_storage(bdbname, useDBM) File "C:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\storage.py", line 681, in open_s torage return klass(data_source_name) File "C:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\storage.py", line 511, in __init __ SQLClassifier.__init__(self, db_name) File "C:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\storage.py", line 317, in __init __ self.load() File "C:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\storage.py", line 537, in load self.db.rollback() File "C:\Python23\lib\MySQLdb\connections.py", line 144, in rollback NotSupportedError, "Not supported by server") File "C:\Python23\lib\MySQLdb\connections.py", line 33, in defaulterrorhandler raise errorclass, errorvalue _mysql_exceptions.NotSupportedError: Not supported by server ============================================================ I suspect I've installed the MySQLdb library incorrectly in Python. Can anyone clue me in on what I am doing wrong? CW From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Oct 12 02:04:24 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Oct 12 02:04:38 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] uninstall SpamBayes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > How do I uninstall SpamBayes? Please see FAQ 3.16: =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Oct 12 03:08:32 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Oct 12 03:09:42 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Merging .db files Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I was wondering how I can merge/combined the training > .db files from two separate computers without losing > any of the past training info. Essentially I want to > create one large .db file from to different .db files. > I read 3.5 and 3.6 from the frequently asked questions > and I performed the back up of my Spambays database files > under \application data\spambayes. Can this be done > with a text editor or with Microsoft Access? I am running > version 1.0 in Outlook XP in Windows XP Professional SP2. You can do this, but you need to use the SpamBayes source scripts. You need to: 1. Install Python: http://www.python.org/download 2. Get a copy of the 1.0 SpamBayes source. 3. Use the sb_dbexpimp.py script to merge the databases: [newbayes.db is the merged db, abayes.db and bbayes.db are the two original db's to be merged. This needs to be done in a command window, like Start->Run->cmd.exe] (a) Run "sb_dbexpimp.py -e -d abayes.db -f abayes.export" (b) Run "sb_dbexpimp.py -e -d bbayes.db -f bbayes.export" (c) Run "sb_dbexpimp.py -i -d newbayes.db -f abayes.export" (d) Run "sb_dbexpimp.py -i -m -d newbayes.db -f bbayes.export" You'll end up with three *.export files that you can delete, as well as the new merged database. You can obviously use whatever names you like for the files. (You do this with the default_bayes_datbase.db file, BTW, not the default_message_database.db file, which cannot be merged). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Oct 12 03:14:47 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Oct 12 03:14:52 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Thanks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Thanks for all your hard work on SpamBayes. It rocks! On behalf of the development team, you're most welcome - thanks for the kind words :) =Tony Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Oct 12 03:22:48 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Oct 12 03:22:48 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Anti-Spam for SMS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Can SpamBayes be extended for filtering SMS's ? Yes. Whether or not it would work well, I don't know. Is there enough information in a SMS to get a reliable score? > Something like accepting SMS data over socket and replying > back if this is a spam/ham or unsure through the headers as > in the mail case. > > One easy way i can think of is converting the SMS to Email > type headers and giving it to SpamBayes and receiving the same back. I don't know much about the technical parts of SMS, but if you can get the message to a computer somehow, then you can run it through SpamBayes to get a score. > Any other methods/solutions so that this can be extended for SMS ? I would suggest that what you want to do is write a new Tokenizer (see the tokenizer.py file in the source), specifically for SMS. It can handle reading the message in whatever format is appropriate, not bother with all the email-specific tokenizing that the regular tokenizer does, and do SMS-specific tokenizing that might be useful. Note that there was a lot of testing done (particularly in the early days) to figure out what tokenizing methods were good, and all of these were aimed at email. What's good for email might not necessarily be good for SMS. It wouldn't be hard (assuming you can get the message to/from the computer easily) to try it out, however. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Oct 12 03:30:22 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Oct 12 03:30:23 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Non filtering proxy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [Lee] >> Right, i've checked the headers and i'm getting an exception : [...] >> File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 308, in probability >> .AssertionError [Richie] > Ah. The good news is that that tells us what's wrong. The > bad news is that your training database has become corrupted. > You need to stop SpamBayes, delete the file, which is called > something like "C:\Documents and Settings\Lee\Application > Data\SpamBayes\Proxy\statistics_database.db", restart SpamBayes > and retrain it from scratch. > > We don't know what causes such corruption I'm afraid. Before > you delete your database, someone else might come along with > more of an idea of how you might be able to recover it, but I > don't know of a way. It appears that this is the hamcount>total_ham error, not the DB_RUNRECOVERY one, from which there is no recovery. You can, if you really want to, fix the database so that it is again usable. You'll need to: 1. Install Python: http://www.python.org/download 2. Get the SpamBayes 1.0 source. 3. Use the sb_dbexpimp.py script to convert the database to CSV. 4. Open that in (eg) Excel, and correct the entries at the top, which record the total number of ham and spam seen, to be more than any counts in the spam/ham columns for each token. 5. Convert the fixed db back to bsddb format with the sb_dbexpimp.py script. However, if you have this problem, then the database may have other problems, and fiddling about with the numbers manually like this isn't recommended. Given that it takes hardly any messages to get good results (in general), retraining (as Richie suggested) is probably the best idea. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From hans at pobox.com Tue Oct 12 02:48:34 2004 From: hans at pobox.com (Hans Henderson) Date: Tue Oct 12 03:50:30 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] General training questions Message-ID: Sorry to re-post if it's been answered elsewhere, but I believe others have also asked similar questions I didn't see answered. So far my intention is to put all "unsure" and all wrongly classified mail into the training folders. The docs state to try to keep the quantity of spam and ham trained balanced, but I get a LOT more spam than ham (like 2000:1). I've done this with the initial training set, but unfortunately my ham sample was much older than the spam, as I don't keep old spam But ongoing, is there any harm in the ratio in the database getting unbalanced from putting a larger amount of spam than ham from the unsure folder into the training folders? Or is it better to deny SB the training fodder? From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Oct 12 04:02:02 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Oct 12 04:02:05 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] General training questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > So far my intention is to put all "unsure" and all wrongly > classified mail into the training folders. This is a good general principal. (It's sometimes referred to here as train-on-mistakes or fpfnunsure). > The docs state to try to keep the quantity of spam and ham trained > balanced, but I get a LOT more spam than ham (like 2000:1). The key isn't what you get, of course, but how it's classified. Are your false positives/false negatives/unsures that out of balance as well? If so, adjusting the thresholds might help somewhat. You'll probably still end up with more spam for training, but not in such an extreme imbalance. > But ongoing, is there any harm in the ratio in the database getting > unbalanced from putting a larger amount of spam than ham from > the unsure folder into the training folders? > > Or is it better to deny SB the training fodder? As long as you're getting satisfactory results, then there is no harm. If it does seem to hurt results, then there are various techniques that you can try, but there hasn't been any conclusive research done on what's best, yet. See http://entrian.com/sbwiki/TrainingIdeas for a very detailed discussion of training SpamBayes. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Oct 12 06:45:51 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Oct 12 06:45:52 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Win32 Command Line In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Moving right along now. You were exactly correct as to the > location of the Outlook spam database. I found it and have > attempted the above command. At this point I wish I new > Python... :-) I receive the following error: > > Traceback (most recent call last): [...] > IOError: [Errno 9] Bad file descriptor > > Does this mean that the message is in the wrong format? > Perhaps it's not a true Unix mbox format? I tried to google > the actual specification for the mbox format, and the only > reference regarding the format I could find was that the > message started after the "From:" That's not a lot of help! That could be the error. What does the message look like? It should be in standard RFC822 format, with or without the leading "From:" line. i.e. something like: """ Subject: This is a test To: tameyer@ihug.co.nz X-Otherheader: example Body of message is here. """ i.e. a collection of headers, one on each line (possibly with continuations) and then a blank line, then the body. > So, I looked over the code, just in case I could figure > something out. It seems that the code is written to handle > malformed messages gracefully with a lovely try/except > construct. What version of Python are you using, BTW? Python 2.4's email package is much better equipped to handle malformed messages. 2.4's only in alpha, but it's pretty stable, and b1 should be out soon, I think. > It's failing when it tries to read in the string. > So I looked around some more and I see that I should be able > to pass it +[directory] to process files in a directory. I'm not familiar with that option, but the docstring (i.e. sb_filter.py -h) says that it's a "MH folder", which is not quite the same thing as a directory of mbox files, I don't think. (I don't know pretty much anything about MH). However, if you leave out the '+', then (as long as the directory doesn't have subdirectories called 'cur' or 'Mail'), it should work with a collection of plain text emails. If it still fails, try putting a "print path" line before the one that dies, and see what it prints out. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From hans at pobox.com Tue Oct 12 10:50:06 2004 From: hans at pobox.com (Hans Henderson) Date: Tue Oct 12 10:50:34 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] General training questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5E7289A6900641834B3D2A9A@hans.main.shrewsbury.ac.th> > The key isn't what you get, of course, but how it's classified. Are your false positives/false negatives/unsures that out of balance as well? If so, adjusting the thresholds might help somewhat. You'll probably still end up with more spam for training, but not in such an extreme imbalance. Well, in the five days it's been working I haven't got any ham yet. I had more or less abandoned that address over the last year, and haven't sent COA notices yet, so the only people who will send to it are people I haven't corresponded with for a long time. I was waiting for SB to reduce the spam load, and it's now getting well over half. Any mail left in my inbox is falsely categorised as ham, right? So I'll start adding that to the training folder as well as the unsure stuff. And once I get the ham flowing, I guess SB will get even better. . . Thanks to all! From sudhir at absli.com Mon Oct 11 07:01:07 2004 From: sudhir at absli.com (sudhir@absli.com) Date: Tue Oct 12 13:51:25 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spamed? Message-ID: <200410110500.i9B501s14893@uusnwa0n.utc.com> During a routine email scan at UTC, a file attached to this message was deleted per UTC Security Policy. UTC does not allow emailing several file types due to their potential to transmit viruses. An attachment named abuse_list.doc.exe was removed from this message. The body text of the message that included the deleted attachment can be found in the .txt file below. It is safe to open this file. If you believe this message is not business related simply delete it. If the message is business related and you require the file that was deleted, please contact the sender and arrange an alternate means of receiving it. The recommended method is to have the sender zip the file before sending it. -------------- next part -------------- I have visited this website and I found you in the spammer list. Is that true? From Randy.Parker at louiscompanies.com Tue Oct 12 17:12:23 2004 From: Randy.Parker at louiscompanies.com (Randy Parker) Date: Tue Oct 12 17:13:00 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: Spambayes stopped working Message-ID: <3101A0AF1E53424A97C36D53CC0DBA8C748676@louis-mail1.louiscompanies.com> I have the same problem and a couple coworkers do as well. One thing we may have in common is that at our company we had older pre-1.0 versions installed and then installed new versions. The older versions worked perfectly. Perhaps we didn't upgrade properly. Here is my most recent log file. Warning: option experimental_ham_spam_imbalance_adjustment in section Classifier is deprecated Loaded bayes database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Randy\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db' Loaded message database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Randy\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db' Bayes database initialized with 977 spam and 1561 good messages SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0 (July 2004) starting (with engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004)) on Windows 5.1.2600 (Service Pack 1) using Python 2.3.3 (#51, Dec 18 2003, 20:22:39) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] NOTE: Skipping folder for this session - temporarily unavailable NOTE: Skipping folder for this session - temporarily unavailable NOTE: Skipping folder for this session - temporarily unavailable NOTE: Skipping folder for this session - temporarily unavailable FAILED to add the toolbar item 'SpamBayesCommand.Manager' - (-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.', (0, None, None, None, 0, -2147467259), None) The above toolbar message is common - recreating the toolbar... Saving configuration -> C:\Documents and Settings\Randy\Application Data\SpamBayes\Randy Parker.ini SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - Randy Parker/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Mailbox - Randy Parker/Junk E-Mail' SpamBayes - Disconnecting from Outlook SpamBayes has processed zero messages Addin terminating: 2 COM client and 2 COM servers exist. Thank you, Randy Parker IS Services Representative (817) 695-7210 randy.parker@louiscompanies.com http://www.louiscompanies.com >[It doesn't appear that this messages to spambayes at python.org has been answered yet - sorry about that! I've been away and so are catching up with the messages. Please ignore if I'm wrong and this has been resolved already.] > spambayes has stopped working on all of my machines. > No error messages, it appears per normal. It simply > stopped working. I tried both version 1.02 and 1.09 > and they simply seem to have shutdown. > I am running XP, (home and pro), and Outlook. Previously, > Spambayes worked like gangbusters. > Is there a virus or something that is disabling spambayes? > Have you had other instances of this problem? I even > uninstalled and re-installed both versions several times. > No go. From chris at modctek.com Tue Oct 12 18:06:26 2004 From: chris at modctek.com (Chris Woo) Date: Tue Oct 12 18:06:34 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problems Using MySQL with SpamBayes Message-ID: My apologies if this is a duplicate posting. My other account seems to have swallowed this email while sending it. I've switched this list to another account. ;-) ===== Well, it happened. My databases got corrupted. No sense in crying over spilt milk, but I would like to prevent further corruption, so I've decided to migrate my databases over to MySQL, seeing as it is already running on my SpamBayes box. Unfortunately, I ran into several problems: 1. I could not get it to use anything other than the default settings. Setting the database name to the string: "host:localhost user:foo pass:foobar dbase:spambayes" resulted in spambayes attempting to access mySQL with user name "@localhost" which makes me suspect it's parsing the string incorrectly. I got around this by granting the defaults access to my spambayes database, but upon doing so, I got... 2. This error: ============================================================ C:\spambayes\scripts>sb_imapfilter.py -b SpamBayes IMAP Filter Version 0.4 (May 2004) and engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004). Traceback (most recent call last): File "C:\spambayes\scripts\sb_imapfilter.py", line 1020, in ? run() File "C:\spambayes\scripts\sb_imapfilter.py", line 947, in run classifier = storage.open_storage(bdbname, useDBM) File "C:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\storage.py", line 681, in open_s torage return klass(data_source_name) File "C:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\storage.py", line 511, in __init __ SQLClassifier.__init__(self, db_name) File "C:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\storage.py", line 317, in __init __ self.load() File "C:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\storage.py", line 537, in load self.db.rollback() File "C:\Python23\lib\MySQLdb\connections.py", line 144, in rollback NotSupportedError, "Not supported by server") File "C:\Python23\lib\MySQLdb\connections.py", line 33, in defaulterrorhandler raise errorclass, errorvalue _mysql_exceptions.NotSupportedError: Not supported by server ============================================================ I suspect I've installed the MySQLdb library incorrectly in Python. Can anyone clue me in on what I am doing wrong? CW From lrawson at conception.edu Tue Oct 12 18:17:47 2004 From: lrawson at conception.edu (Lance S. Rawson) Date: Tue Oct 12 18:17:55 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Merging db files continued Message-ID: <6B007A2DF432D411BE4300902717818301305FC4@nts03.conception.edu> Dear Spambayes, In your previous post you said: 1. Install Python: http://www.python.org/download 2. Get a copy of the 1.0 SpamBayes source. 3. Use the sb_dbexpimp.py script to merge the databases: [newbayes.db is the merged db, abayes.db and bbayes.db are the two original db's to be merged. This needs to be done in a command window, like Start->Run->cmd.exe] (a) Run "sb_dbexpimp.py -e -d abayes.db -f abayes.export" (b) Run "sb_dbexpimp.py -e -d bbayes.db -f bbayes.export" (c) Run "sb_dbexpimp.py -i -d newbayes.db -f abayes.export" (d) Run "sb_dbexpimp.py -i -m -d newbayes.db -f bbayes.export" You'll end up with three *.export files that you can delete, as well as the new merged database. You can obviously use whatever names you like for the files. (You do this with the default_bayes_datbase.db file, BTW, not the default_message_database.db file, which cannot be merged). =Tony Meyer I installed Python and I have a copy of the 1.0 Spambayes source. I am lost on the third step though. I went to the command window for in Windows XP Professional SP2 but I can not use the run command. Did you mean that I need to use the command window with the Python application? Python will require some learning because I have never done any programming before. 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When I try to install SpamBayes, I get the following Application Error: outlook_addin_register.exe-Application Error The instruction at "0X7801052d" references memory at "0X00e9e000". The memory could not be "written". Click on OK to terminate the program Click on CANCEL to debug the program; I clicked on OK to terminate because I would have no idea what I was looking at if I tried to debug. Have you any ideas? Thanks much in advance for any help or direction you can give me. Doug Feder From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Oct 13 01:02:20 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Oct 13 01:02:26 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Merging db files continued In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I installed Python and I have a copy of the 1.0 Spambayes > source. I am lost on the third step though. I went to the > command window for in Windows XP Professional SP2 but I can > not use the run command. You need to navigate to the folder that you expanded the SpamBayes source into. You do this with the "cd" command. For example, if you expanded the files into "C:\Program Files\SpamBayesSource", you would type: cd "C:\Program Files\SpamBayesSource" Then type the commands inside the quotes (but not including the quotes) in steps (a) through (d) below. (a) "scripts\sb_dbexpimp.py -e -d abayes.db -f abayes.export" (b) "scripts\sb_dbexpimp.py -e -d bbayes.db -f bbayes.export" (c) "scripts\sb_dbexpimp.py -i -d newbayes.db -f abayes.export" (d) "scripts\sb_dbexpimp.py -i -m -d newbayes.db -f bbayes.export" You'll need to replace the various filenames with the names of the files you have (e.g. default_bayes_database.db). > Python will require some learning because I have never > done any programming before. You don't need to do any programming, just be able to use command-line scripts (like back in the days before Windows). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Oct 13 01:10:24 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Oct 13 01:10:31 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Missing Junk E-mail boxes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > For some reason my "Suspected Junk E-mail" and > "Junk E-mail" folders have disappeared. Can you > tell me how to find them again? Please see FAQ 3.13: =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Oct 13 01:25:52 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Oct 13 01:25:58 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problems Using MySQL with SpamBayes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Well, it happened. My databases got corrupted. No sense in > crying over spilt milk, but I would like to prevent further > corruption, so I've decided to migrate my databases over to > MySQL, seeing as it is already running on my SpamBayes box. Note that the MySQL code is very untested compared to everything else. You could use a pickle, instead, to avoid corruption problems if you wanted to. > Unfortunately, I ran into several problems: > > 1. I could not get it to use anything other than the default settings. > Setting the database name to the string: "host:localhost user:foo > pass:foobar dbase:spambayes" resulted in spambayes attempting > to access mySQL with user name "@localhost" which makes me suspect it's > parsing the string incorrectly. I don't know where that '@' came from - there isn't an '@' in the code at all. The code splits the string by whitespace, then gets the various elements (e.g. it looks for "host", then takes whatever is after the 5th character in that section). When it tries to connect to the db, it just passes that to the connect function. I gather you're running from source, so you could put a "print self.username" just before the connect function to verify this, if you want. This is about line 529 of storage.py. > I got around this by granting the > defaults access to my spambayes database, but upon doing so, I got... > > 2. This error: [...] > File "C:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\storage.py", > line 537, in > load > self.db.rollback() > File "C:\Python23\lib\MySQLdb\connections.py", line 144, in rollback > NotSupportedError, "Not supported by server") > File "C:\Python23\lib\MySQLdb\connections.py", line 33, in > defaulterrorhandler > > raise errorclass, errorvalue > _mysql_exceptions.NotSupportedError: Not supported by server > ============================================================ What's happened is that it's tried to execute the SQL command "select count(*) from bayes", which has failed because the table hasn't been created yet. It then tries to do a rollback to reverse the current transaction and would then create the table. I'll check in a fix for this. To apply it, replace this (from line 534) in storage.py: """ try: c.execute("select count(*) from bayes") except MySQLdb.ProgrammingError: self.db.rollback() self.create_bayes() """ With this: """ try: c.execute("select count(*) from bayes") except MySQLdb.ProgrammingError: try: self.db.rollback() except MySQLdb.NotSupportedError: pass self.create_bayes() """ That should allow it to run and create the table, and then it should work, hopefully. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From sethg at GoodmanAssociates.com Wed Oct 13 01:52:00 2004 From: sethg at GoodmanAssociates.com (Seth Goodman) Date: Wed Oct 13 01:52:05 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spamed? In-Reply-To: <200410110500.i9B501s14893@uusnwa0n.utc.com> Message-ID: > From: sudhir@absli.com > Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 12:01 AM > > > I have visited this website and I found you in the spammer list. > Is that true? > > The SpamBayes list does requires registration, is not moderated and is not filtered. No requirement for registration means that anyone can post anything, including spammers. This was done to make it easier for SpamBayes users to post to the list, and it was felt that the requirement to register would deter some users from posting questions that they otherwise might. No moderation means there is no one in charge who looks at messages (a time-consuming task) before they are distributed to the list. No filtering means that typical anti-spam filters are _not_ used so that people can post interesting (or not so interesting) samples of spam that SpamBayes handled in a particular way. All this means that the SpamBayes list occasionally does have a spammer send something to the posting address and it will be distributed. This does not mean that the SpamBayes list server is spamming. Indeed, you would be hard pressed to find a group of people more dedicated to keeping spam out of people's inboxes. I can't locate the message you mentioned on the list. If you would be willing to send me a copy with full headers off-line I would be happy to look at it and see where it came from. The easiest way to send something with full headers is to send it as an attachment. Just hitting the forward button, depending on the mail client, often results in only the first few header lines being included. -- Seth Goodman From benjamin_mueller at web.de Wed Oct 13 02:50:38 2004 From: benjamin_mueller at web.de (benjamin mueller) Date: Wed Oct 13 02:50:43 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Exception or Error? Message-ID: <416C7BDE.9080709@web.de> Hello, I just got a spam mail but SpamBayes did not classify this one. -- X-Spambayes-Exception: Traceback (most recent call last): . File "sb_server.pyc", line 471, in onRetr . File "spambayes\message.pyc", line 247, in setPayload . File "email\Parser.pyc", line 245, in _parsebody .BoundaryError: multipart message with no defined boundary -- But when I used the function "Classify a message" it was correctly classified!? I am using pop3 proxy 1.0rc2 (june 2004) - Benjamin Mueller -- From warren at warrenernst.com Wed Oct 13 03:51:59 2004 From: warren at warrenernst.com (Warren 'Llama' Ernst) Date: Wed Oct 13 03:51:57 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] uncomfortable pauses with outlook plugin... Message-ID: All, I just switched from Win98 and Outlook 2000 on a P3 at 1.4 gig to a PC with XP and Outlook 2000 on a P4 at 3 gig. I moved my outlook PST files to the new machine from the old one, and installed the latest SpamBayes. Though the filtering works just fine, I find that moving a message from the Unsure folder to the Spam folder usually (but not always) makes the entire system seem to freeze for 2 or 3 seconds. The old system never did this. Now, I understand that there could be A LOT of things going on that can make this happen, but I guess I am asking if: 1. This is typical with the current version (I was still using a beta on the old computer)? 2. Is there a setting that is more likely to make this happen? 3. Are there a few things I should be checking for and getting back to this list with? Thanks, Warr From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Oct 13 03:56:19 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Oct 13 03:56:24 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Exception or Error? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I just got a spam mail but SpamBayes did not classify this one. > > -- > X-Spambayes-Exception: Traceback (most recent call last): > . File "sb_server.pyc", line 471, in onRetr > . File "spambayes\message.pyc", line 247, in setPayload > . File "email\Parser.pyc", line 245, in _parsebody > .BoundaryError: multipart message with no defined boundary > -- The Exception header is added when SpamBayes can't parse the message because it's malformed. Future releases will be able to handle these better. > But when I used the function "Classify a message" it was correctly > classified!? Where did you get the text that you pasted into the box? If it was missing the headers, then that would explain it (because the headers is where the malformation is). Or if you got it from your mailer, then possibly the mailer corrected the message when it arrived (some mailers do this). If you used the raw text that arrived, then that would also have failed (less gracefully, probably). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Oct 13 04:00:13 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Oct 13 04:00:18 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Error trying to install SpamBayes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I am using a Dell Latitude Laptop running Win2K with Office > 2000 / Outlook 2000. When I try to install SpamBayes, I get > the following > Application Error: > > outlook_addin_register.exe-Application Error > The instruction at "0X7801052d" references memory at > "0X00e9e000". The > memory could not be "written". > Click on OK to terminate the program > Click on CANCEL to debug the program; Annoyingly, this is an error that doesn't really provide any useful information (but maybe Windows didn't have any to give). What version of SpamBayes are you trying to install? Was a previous version already installed? At what point in the install does this occur? (i.e what does the install wizard say) If you restart and try again, does it still happen? Do any other installers give you problems like this? If you look in your temp directory (I think this is \Documents and Settings\{username}\Local Settings\Temp with Win2K) is there a SpamBayes1.log file? If so, could you send that to the list? =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Oct 13 04:06:42 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Oct 13 04:06:49 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] uncomfortable pauses with outlook plugin... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Though the filtering works just fine, I find that moving a > message from the Unsure folder to the Spam folder usually > (but not always) makes the entire system seem to freeze for 2 > or 3 seconds. The old system never did this. [...] > 1. This is typical with the current version (I was still > using a beta on the old computer)? Not as far as I am aware (I imagine that other people would have complained about this if it were). > 2. Is there a setting that is more likely to make this happen? Not as far as I am aware. > 3. Are there a few things I should be checking for and > getting back to this list with? There are two things that are happening when you move the message (assuming that you're using the "Delete as Spam" button or have the incremental training option on): moving and training. To check which one it is, try turning incremental training off (Training tab in the SpamBayes Manager) and drag the message to the Spam folder. This will move without training. If that's not slow, then it's training. If it is, then it's moving (or both). If the slowness is in moving, then it's probably Outlook. Is it moving to a large pst file? Is moving a message from some other folder to a folder on the same store also slow? Is this moving to a folder on an Exchange server? If the slowness is training, how large is your database? You can see how many messages have been trained in the General tab of the SpamBayes Manager. If you're using a fresh (therefore small) database, then this could be an instance of a very rare bug we've seen (thrice) and can't duplicate where there's a weird slowdown in using it. If so, then simply retraining from scratch will fix it (and you're extremely unlikely to ever come across it again). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From brown at dui-dwi.com Wed Oct 13 06:22:00 2004 From: brown at dui-dwi.com (DUI-DWI) Date: Wed Oct 13 06:22:34 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spamed? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20041013042231.TGPH2425.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@seeker> Seth, The original message was a failed propagation attempt of the virus Worm.SomeFool.Gen-1 (NetSky alias) which was embedded in the blocked attachment abuse_list.doc.exe to this mailing list. Webmaster -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Seth Goodman Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 7:52 PM To: sudhir@absli.com; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Spamed? > From: sudhir@absli.com > Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 12:01 AM > > > I have visited this website and I found you in the spammer list. > Is that true? > > The SpamBayes list does requires registration, is not moderated and is not filtered. No requirement for registration means that anyone can post anything, including spammers. This was done to make it easier for SpamBayes users to post to the list, and it was felt that the requirement to register would deter some users from posting questions that they otherwise might. No moderation means there is no one in charge who looks at messages (a time-consuming task) before they are distributed to the list. No filtering means that typical anti-spam filters are _not_ used so that people can post interesting (or not so interesting) samples of spam that SpamBayes handled in a particular way. All this means that the SpamBayes list occasionally does have a spammer send something to the posting address and it will be distributed. This does not mean that the SpamBayes list server is spamming. Indeed, you would be hard pressed to find a group of people more dedicated to keeping spam out of people's inboxes. I can't locate the message you mentioned on the list. If you would be willing to send me a copy with full headers off-line I would be happy to look at it and see where it came from. The easiest way to send something with full headers is to send it as an attachment. Just hitting the forward button, depending on the mail client, often results in only the first few header lines being included. -- Seth Goodman _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From warren at warrenernst.com Wed Oct 13 09:04:46 2004 From: warren at warrenernst.com (Warren 'Llama' Ernst) Date: Wed Oct 13 09:04:50 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] uncomfortable pauses with outlook plugin... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks for the replies. When I disable incremental training, moving items is instantaneous. All the folders are on a local hard drive's PST file. My database has 1185 good messages ate 2077 spam - I don't know if this is large or not, since I don't see other people's databases. So, with that said, I'll retrain the database and see what that does. If there's a problem, I'll touch base. Thanks for the help. -Warr --original message below--- > 3. Are there a few things I should be checking for and > getting back to this list with? There are two things that are happening when you move the message (assuming that you're using the "Delete as Spam" button or have the incremental training option on): moving and training. To check which one it is, try turning incremental training off (Training tab in the SpamBayes Manager) and drag the message to the Spam folder. This will move without training. If that's not slow, then it's training. If it is, then it's moving (or both). If the slowness is in moving, then it's probably Outlook. Is it moving to a large pst file? Is moving a message from some other folder to a folder on the same store also slow? Is this moving to a folder on an Exchange server? If the slowness is training, how large is your database? You can see how many messages have been trained in the General tab of the SpamBayes Manager. If you're using a fresh (therefore small) database, then this could be an instance of a very rare bug we've seen (thrice) and can't duplicate where there's a weird slowdown in using it. If so, then simply retraining from scratch will fix it (and you're extremely unlikely to ever come across it again). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From info at mawnet.com Tue Oct 12 07:30:49 2004 From: info at mawnet.com (info@mawnet.com) Date: Wed Oct 13 14:25:54 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Extended Mail Message-ID: <200410120529.i9C5Tgv03680@uusnwa0n.utc.com> During a routine email scan at UTC, a file attached to this message was deleted per UTC Security Policy. UTC does not allow emailing several file types due to their potential to transmit viruses. An attachment named message.pif was removed from this message. The body text of the message that included the deleted attachment can be found in the .txt file below. It is safe to open this file. If you believe this message is not business related simply delete it. If the message is business related and you require the file that was deleted, please contact the sender and arrange an alternate means of receiving it. The recommended method is to have the sender zip the file before sending it. -------------- next part -------------- For further details see the attachment. From lrawson at conception.edu Wed Oct 13 17:30:35 2004 From: lrawson at conception.edu (Lance S. Rawson) Date: Wed Oct 13 17:30:38 2004 Subject: FW: [Spambayes] Merging db files continued Message-ID: <6B007A2DF432D411BE4300902717818301305FC5@nts03.conception.edu> Thanks for all of your help. Lance -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 6:02 PM To: Lance S. Rawson; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Merging db files continued > I installed Python and I have a copy of the 1.0 Spambayes source. I > am lost on the third step though. I went to the command window for in > Windows XP Professional SP2 but I can not use the run command. You need to navigate to the folder that you expanded the SpamBayes source into. You do this with the "cd" command. For example, if you expanded the files into "C:\Program Files\SpamBayesSource", you would type: cd "C:\Program Files\SpamBayesSource" Then type the commands inside the quotes (but not including the quotes) in steps (a) through (d) below. (a) "scripts\sb_dbexpimp.py -e -d abayes.db -f abayes.export" (b) "scripts\sb_dbexpimp.py -e -d bbayes.db -f bbayes.export" (c) "scripts\sb_dbexpimp.py -i -d newbayes.db -f abayes.export" (d) "scripts\sb_dbexpimp.py -i -m -d newbayes.db -f bbayes.export" You'll need to replace the various filenames with the names of the files you have (e.g. default_bayes_database.db). > Python will require some learning because I have never > done any programming before. You don't need to do any programming, just be able to use command-line scripts (like back in the days before Windows). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From brown at dui-dwi.com Wed Oct 13 19:17:44 2004 From: brown at dui-dwi.com (DUI-DWI) Date: Wed Oct 13 19:18:17 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Need assistance. Trying to make an Outlook binary install from source. In-Reply-To: <6B007A2DF432D411BE4300902717818301305FC5@nts03.conception.edu> Message-ID: <20041013171814.JHHP2348.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@seeker> I have done the following steps that are in the wiki on how to do this: 1) Get SpamBayes source from cvs (Updated this morning) 2) Install Python (2.3.4) 3) Install the Python Win32 extensions (pywin32-203.win32-py2.3.exe) 4) Install McMillan Installer (latest version) or py2exe (py2exe-0.5.3.win32-py2.3.exe) 5) Install InnoSetup (isetup-4.2.7.exe) 6) The required scripts are in the Outlook2000/Installer directory, or windows/py2exe directory. This is where I'm stuck however. The readme in the Outlook2000/Installer directory says to execute the following to create the 'dist' and 'build_spambayes' directories: {Installer}\Build.py spambayes_addin.spec I'm new to Python and I have no idea how to perform this last step. I don't even know if my SpamBayes source directory is set to path in Python. Webmaster From Christopher.Woo at pepperdine.edu Wed Oct 13 19:46:31 2004 From: Christopher.Woo at pepperdine.edu (Woo, Christopher) Date: Wed Oct 13 19:46:43 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Ugh...imapfilter woes continue Message-ID: Well, I got the MySQL database working after some helpful tips from Tony, but immediately ran into a problem. Thinking that it may have been MySQL vs. Spambayes, I changed to using a pickle, and ran into the same problem: Traceback (most recent call last): File "c:\spambayes\scripts\sb_imapfilter.py", line 1020, in ? run() File "c:\spambayes\scripts\sb_imapfilter.py", line 1010, in run imap_filter.Filter() File "c:\spambayes\scripts\sb_imapfilter.py", line 879, in Filter self.unsure_folder, self.ham_folder) File "c:\spambayes\scripts\sb_imapfilter.py", line 767, in Filter evidence=True) File "C:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\classifier.py", line 190, in chi 2_spamprob clues = self._getclues(wordstream) File "C:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\classifier.py", line 493, in _ge tclues tup = self._worddistanceget(word) File "C:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\classifier.py", line 508, in _wo rddistanceget prob = self.probability(record) File "C:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\classifier.py", line 311, in pro bability assert spamcount <= nspam, "Token seen in more spam than spam trained." AssertionError: Token seen in more spam than spam trained. I remember seeing something in an email a little while back about fixing this error by exporting the db into a cvs and correcting it manually, but I can't find any details on what exactly needs to be done. And seeing as I've run into this exact same error twice now, immediately after training, is there something I am doing when training that causes this error. CW From kanders at telusplanet.net Wed Oct 13 20:48:25 2004 From: kanders at telusplanet.net (Kevin or Rita Anderson (AMT Inc.)) Date: Wed Oct 13 20:48:33 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Message-ID: <001301c4b155$3986f960$a1b6b8a1@celeron1700> I am using SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 1.0 (July 2004) (binary), with version 2.3.3 (#51, Dec 18 2003, 20:22:39) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] of Python; my operating system is Windows 4.10.67766446.1 ( A ). I have trained 0 ham and 1 spam. The problem I am having is [DESCRIBE YOUR PROBLEM HERE] I'm not sure what to put in the address of my email account. I do not get the spam untrained information from my emails. I'm obviously doing something wrong. Can you help. where you would normally put your POP3 server address, you should now put the address of the machine running SpamBayes Rita Anderson kanders@telusplanet.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041013/43a0f679/attachment.html From Mark at DTSOFT.com Wed Oct 13 21:18:21 2004 From: Mark at DTSOFT.com (Mark Vovchuk) Date: Wed Oct 13 21:17:20 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Many users on domain coming up as "possibly spam" Message-ID: <33A7DDCC10B40446AFA6AB43D717FA2D022E13E7@mail1> Including myself. Many people in my organization are coming up as either spam or maybe spam. I have been trying out spambayes as a way to get off of another product and this is the last hurdle that I cannot overcome. I have them keep moving each other, and myself, out using the "recover" button but to no avail. this is one of the clues messages that someone had on an email I sent: Combined Score: 69% (0.686078) Internal ham score (*H*): 0.229281 Internal spam score (*S*): 0.601437 # ham trained on: 23319 # spam trained on: 370 17 Significant Tokens token spamprob #ham #spam 'subject:odd' 0.155172 1 0 'url:105957' 0.155172 1 0 'url:indymedia' 0.155172 1 0 'url:sandiego' 0.155172 1 0 'from:none' 0.3267 1559 12 'to:addr:rob' 0.334402 753 6 'message-id:invalid' 0.37662 1565 15 'reply-to:none' 0.397052 22874 239 'header:To:1' 0.608344 14607 360 'url:shtml' 0.694677 55 2 'url:org' 0.709459 619 24 'to:2**0' 0.744606 7133 330 'to:no real name:2**0' 0.804451 3722 243 'proto:http' 0.825724 3963 298 'url:10' 0.850336 21 2 'url:2004' 0.858892 9 1 'url:en' 0.963873 2 5 Message Stream X-Exchange-Message: true Subject: odd To: Rob Kohn http://sandiego.indymedia.org/en/2004/10/105957.shtml All Message Tokens 22 unique tokens 'cc:none' 'content-type:text/plain' 'from:none' 'header:Subject:1' 'header:To:1' 'message-id:invalid' 'proto:http' 'reply-to:none' 'sender:none' 'subject:odd' 'to:2**0' 'to:addr:rob' 'to:no real name:2**0' 'url:10' 'url:105957' 'url:2004' 'url:en' 'url:indymedia' 'url:org' 'url:sandiego' 'url:shtml' 'x-mailer:none' What gives? How can I stop being seen as a spammer? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041013/51b9851a/attachment.htm From skip at pobox.com Wed Oct 13 21:37:59 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Wed Oct 13 21:38:22 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problems Using MySQL with SpamBayes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <16749.33815.992845.317295@montanaro.dyndns.org> >> Well, it happened. My databases got corrupted. No sense in crying >> over spilt milk, but I would like to prevent further corruption, so >> I've decided to migrate my databases over to MySQL, seeing as it is >> already running on my SpamBayes box. Tony> Note that the MySQL code is very untested compared to everything Tony> else. You could use a pickle, instead, to avoid corruption Tony> problems if you wanted to. I can't explain the problems Chris saw. Had I posted something yesterday it would have been very much like Tony's post (dsn splits on whitespace, can't tell where "@" comes from, etc) with the exception of a code checkin. I am going to try getting the MySQL classifier to work again. Last night I got MySQL installed and running on my Mac laptop via the fink installation. I'll try to get a bit further tonight or tomorrow. Skip From kennypitt at hotmail.com Wed Oct 13 22:01:47 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Wed Oct 13 22:02:04 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Many users on domain coming up as "possibly spam" In-Reply-To: <33A7DDCC10B40446AFA6AB43D717FA2D022E13E7@mail1> Message-ID: Your problem almost certainly lies here: # ham trained on: 23319 # spam trained on: 370 Based on the imbalance in the number of messages that you have trained, a single spam token will have approximately 63 times as much influence on the overall score as a single ham token. For best results, you should train on roughly equal numbers of spam and ham messages. 5x to 10x is probably OK for most people, but 63x is definately pushing the limits. Your best bet is probably to delete your training database and start over from scratch. If you train only by using the toolbar buttons when messages are misclassified instead of by training a bunch of existing messages up front then you'll probably get better results. -- Kenny Pitt _____ From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Mark Vovchuk Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 3:18 PM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Many users on domain coming up as "possibly spam" Including myself. Many people in my organization are coming up as either spam or maybe spam. I have been trying out spambayes as a way to get off of another product and this is the last hurdle that I cannot overcome. I have them keep moving each other, and myself, out using the "recover" button but to no avail. this is one of the clues messages that someone had on an email I sent: Combined Score: 69% (0.686078) Internal ham score (*H*): 0.229281 Internal spam score (*S*): 0.601437 # ham trained on: 23319 # spam trained on: 370 17 Significant Tokens token spamprob #ham #spam 'subject:odd' 0.155172 1 0 'url:105957' 0.155172 1 0 'url:indymedia' 0.155172 1 0 'url:sandiego' 0.155172 1 0 'from:none' 0.3267 1559 12 'to:addr:rob' 0.334402 753 6 'message-id:invalid' 0.37662 1565 15 'reply-to:none' 0.397052 22874 239 'header:To:1' 0.608344 14607 360 'url:shtml' 0.694677 55 2 'url:org' 0.709459 619 24 'to:2**0' 0.744606 7133 330 'to:no real name:2**0' 0.804451 3722 243 'proto:http' 0.825724 3963 298 'url:10' 0.850336 21 2 'url:2004' 0.858892 9 1 'url:en' 0.963873 2 5 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If you > used the raw text that arrived, then that would also have failed (less > gracefully, probably). > > =Tony Meyer I got the message source from mozilla mail (1.8a4). I do not know if mozilla has corrected the headers. Benjamin -- From B17G1AD at comcast.net Thu Oct 14 00:17:17 2004 From: B17G1AD at comcast.net (Joseph Brown) Date: Thu Oct 14 00:17:41 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Installation Question Message-ID: <000001c4b172$6a3ac100$2602a8c0@PAPA> I downloaded and ran the installation program, but nothing seems to happen. The wizard didn't start when I opened Outlook, I can't find any icons, nor can I find anything in the "Programs" file. What's happening? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041013/c5ca5de3/attachment-0001.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Oct 14 01:32:37 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Oct 14 01:32:47 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Error trying to install SpamBayes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [Bill Norman] > Tony Meyers is to dumb to have a computer.. > Please take me off your mailing list ! You need to unsubscribe yourself. Instructions are included with every message sent to you via the list. Either go to: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Or mailto:spambayes-request@python.org?subject=unsubscribe =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Oct 14 02:13:55 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Oct 14 02:14:06 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problems Using MySQL with SpamBayes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I can't explain the problems Chris saw. Had I posted > something yesterday it would have been very much like Tony's > post (dsn splits on whitespace, can't tell where "@" comes > from, etc) with the exception of a code checkin. I am going > to try getting the MySQL classifier to work again. Last > night I got MySQL installed and running on my Mac laptop via > the fink installation. I'll try to get a bit further tonight > or tomorrow. FWIW, it still works for me with MySQL (Windows) 4.0 and MySQLdb 0.9.2. This is admittedly limited testing, but it will create a new table, train, and classify, which is just about all the database does. I just had "host=localhost dbname=bayes" for the dsn. =Tony Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Oct 14 02:20:00 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Oct 14 02:20:05 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: Ugh...imapfilter woes continue In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Well, I got the MySQL database working after some helpful > tips from Tony, but immediately ran into a problem. Thinking > that it may have been MySQL vs. Spambayes, I changed to using > a pickle, and ran into the same problem: Was it definitely the same problem? i.e. the error message was exactly the same? That indicates that imapfilter is doing something wrong. [...] > assert spamcount <= nspam, "Token seen in more spam than > spam trained." > AssertionError: Token seen in more spam than spam trained. It looks like you're running from CVS, so I'm picking that imapfilter is at fault here. Imapfilter has gone through fairly substantial changes in CVS (compared to 1.0), so it's quite possible that a bug has been introduced. Unfortunately, I'm not sure how this particular problem could be caused - the only thing I can think of is that training has been interrupted at some point - has imapfilter crashed during training? > I remember seeing something in an email a little while back > about fixing this error by exporting the db into a cvs and > correcting it manually, but I can't find any details on what > exactly needs to be done. And seeing as I've run into this > exact same error twice now, immediately after training, is > there something I am doing when training that causes this error. You can do that, but it's better to just start from scratch. It involves guesswork as to which numbers to use, so you're putting the reliability of the database into question. A message with the steps is here: =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Oct 14 02:33:16 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Oct 14 02:33:23 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Win32 Command Line In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Again, thanks a million. I have an idea... Do you know where > I can find an example (for a dozen) of PERFECTLY formed mbox > messages so I can eliminate parsing errors from the equation? The archives to this list should work: . I guess you should weed out any spam in there, but the rest ought to be correctly formed. > When I call the file as such: > > sb_filter.py < spam1.mai > > It ends up calling the function getmbox with the argument name = "-". > > This forces a call to get_message(sys.stdin) > > get_message then checks whether or not the passed object is a > message object, which it is not. It then checks to see if > the passed object supports "read". Which sys.stdin DOES. > So, then it tries to perform a read and bombs. Here's the > code in question... (leading comments removed) [...] > It's failing on "obj = obj.read()" > > To me, this seesm like an odd place to bomb. Why would > reading from sys.stdin fail? Is something amiss with my > python installation, perhaps? This is my first attempt at > python and I'm not sure where to start looking for these answers. I should have googled in the first place :) Apparently this is a Windows bug - there's an explanation here: Try doing: C:\python23\python sb_filter.py < spam1.mai And see if that works. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From hans at pobox.com Thu Oct 14 03:02:47 2004 From: hans at pobox.com (Hans Henderson) Date: Thu Oct 14 03:03:27 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] IMAP script problem Message-ID: SpamBayes IMAP Filter Version 0.4 (May 2004) and engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004) In looking a bit more closely at my results, I see that all the messages classified as spam are *copied* rather than moved to the suspect folder. So I've been needlessly training on excessive spam thinking it wasn't being classified properly. I guess I don't need to worry about re-training though, as even though my database's ration is currently 10:1, only four out of 180 were unsure? More importantly, as it is now, I still have to manually classify myself, defeating the whole purpose. How can I get SB to delete the spam messages once they've been copied to suspect? From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Oct 14 06:03:15 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Oct 14 06:03:23 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Installation Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I downloaded and ran the installation program, but > nothing seems to happen. Did the installer run through to completion without any errors? > The wizard didn't start when I opened Outlook, I can't > find any icons, nor can I find anything in the > "Programs" file. What's happening? It sounds like it wasn't installed. If you look in C:\Program Files, is there a SpamBayes folder there? If you look in your temp folder (probably C:\Documents and Settings\{username}\Local Settings\temp) is there a Spambayes1.log file there? (If there is, then the contents of this could help us figure out what is happening). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Oct 14 06:07:15 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Oct 14 06:07:25 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] General training questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Well, in the five days it's been working I haven't got any > ham yet. I had more or less abandoned that address over the > last year, and haven't sent COA notices yet, so the only > people who will send to it are people I > haven't corresponded with for a long time. > > I was waiting for SB to reduce the spam load, and it's now > getting well over half. > > Any mail left in my inbox is falsely categorised as ham, > right? So I'll start adding that to the training folder as > well as the unsure stuff. > > And once I get the ham flowing, I guess SB will get even better. . . If you're using SpamBayes to try and spot a rare instance of ham amongst a lot of spam, then the regular training patterns probably don't apply so much (they've been tested on the more typical balances of ham & spam). In this case, perhaps building up a collection of sample mail from the people that are likely to still have that address (or just a representative sample of all your ham) and using that as the ham training. For spam, just collect a sample of about the same size and use that. If you don't get any ham, then you can probably skip ongoing training for the most part (maybe just train on false negatives, and ignore unsures). Basically, this is an unusual use-case, so you'll probably have to try a few things out and figure out what works best for you. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Oct 14 06:13:01 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Oct 14 06:13:09 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] IMAP script problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > In looking a bit more closely at my results, I see that all > the messages classified as spam are *copied* rather than > moved to the suspect folder. It is impossible to move a message with IMAP (a large flaw of the protocol, IMO). What you have to do is add a copy of the message to the new folder, and delete the one in the original. This is what sb_imapfilter does. To delete the message, sb_imapfilter marks the \Deleted flag. It's possible that your mailer will still show you these messages, although it really ought to indicate that it's marked for deletion. To actually delete the message permanently, you have to 'expunge' the folder. However, this removes *all* messages in that folder marked for deletion, not just one (again, something not possible with IMAP). sb_imapfilter doesn't want to remove messages that you've manually marked as \Deleted, so it doesn't do the expunge by default. > How can I get SB to delete the spam messages once they've > been copied to suspect? If you add: """ [imap] expunge:True """ (without the quotes) to your configuration file, then sb_imapfilter will expunge messages as it goes, removing all the (apparent) duplicates. Remember that it'll also (permanently) remove any other messages with the \Deleted flag, though. [If, however, the \Deleted flag isn't being set, then this must be as a result of a bug of some sort. In that case, run with -i4, remove your username/password from the output, and send a copy to the list so we can figure out what's going wrong.] =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Oct 14 06:27:57 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Oct 14 06:28:03 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Win32 Command Line In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > C:\sb\scripts>c:\python23\python.exe sb_filter.py -g -d > "c:\sb\scripts\hammie.db" < 2004-october.txt > > The file "hammie.db" is the db file from Outlook, copied and > renamed. It's currently about 5mb, give or take. I expected > that the file would grow in size as a result of running the > above command. Sadly it does not. I am receiving no error > at all, and am seeing the contents of the txt file dump back > out to stdout, which I think is good. Yes, that's the correct output. It may not grow in size, though, because the tokens from that message might already be in the database, so it doesn't actually need any more room. Either check to see if the modified date has changed, or run c:\python23\python.exe sb_server.py -o Storage:persistent_storage_file:c:\sb\scripts\hammie.db -o globals:verbose:True This should print out some information including the number of ham & spam trained. Check that they have changed. (I tried this with my Outlook db, which is also about 5Mb, and the size didn't change, but the date & sb_server report did). > Then, I tried the following: > > C:\sb\scripts>c:\python23\python.exe sb_filter.py -f -d > "c:\sb\scripts\hammie.db" < ham1.mai > > ham1.mai is a file containing a single email known to be not > spam. I see the output back in the screen, which is good. > But, the output exactly matches the input, with the exception > that some lines are now wrapped. Should there be > modifications to the file as it's pushed back to stdout? Are you positive that it's exactly the same? This works for me, and I get the various SpamBayes headers added. By default, I think the only one you'll get is "X-Spambayes-Classification: {class}". Are you sure you didn't miss it? =Tony Meyer From lchmiel at ippt.gov.pl Thu Oct 14 14:39:05 2004 From: lchmiel at ippt.gov.pl (Leszek Chmielewski) Date: Thu Oct 14 14:39:09 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook plugin: Any problems with SSL and multiple accounts? Message-ID: Hi, I have Win2K PL (Poland) and Outlook 2000 PL (Poland) and use several e-mail accounts. One of them (POP as wellas SMTP) is protected by SSL. Will SpamBayes Outlook plugin work with all this? Leszek From hanshenderson at csloxinfo.com Thu Oct 14 10:58:44 2004 From: hanshenderson at csloxinfo.com (Hans Henderson) Date: Thu Oct 14 16:02:04 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] IMAP script problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5CB69B38E851DB43534C9B38@hans.main.shrewsbury.ac.th> Sorry if I wasn't more clear, and this seems to be happening mostly as you describe, except that I have doubles (sometimes triples or more) of everything. Not sure if the attachment will get through the list, but I've included a screenshot from Mulberry to clarify - the "marked for deletion" messages are shown by a red strikeout line through the text, ones that SB hasn't touched yet are still bold blue for unread, and the "read" (processed messages) are regular text. Note that I can "expunge" the struckout messages, but then I have to manually sort through the processed ones. And my suspect folder contains another copy of all these messages. As a side note, I think the tripling+ factor is probably not SB as it isn't consistent - I have multiple addresses going to one mailbox, so some spammers probably have more than one of those. Thanks again for your help. . . --On 14 October 2004 17:13 +1300 Tony Meyer wrote: >> In looking a bit more closely at my results, I see that all >> the messages classified as spam are *copied* rather than >> moved to the suspect folder. > > It is impossible to move a message with IMAP (a large flaw of the > protocol, IMO). What you have to do is add a copy of the message to the > new folder, and delete the one in the original. This is what > sb_imapfilter does. > > To delete the message, sb_imapfilter marks the \Deleted flag. It's > possible that your mailer will still show you these messages, although it > really ought to indicate that it's marked for deletion. To actually > delete the message permanently, you have to 'expunge' the folder. > However, this removes *all* messages in that folder marked for deletion, > not just one (again, something not possible with IMAP). sb_imapfilter > doesn't want to remove messages that you've manually marked as \Deleted, > so it doesn't do the expunge by default. > >> How can I get SB to delete the spam messages once they've >> been copied to suspect? > > If you add: > > """ > [imap] > expunge:True > """ > > (without the quotes) to your configuration file, then sb_imapfilter will > expunge messages as it goes, removing all the (apparent) duplicates. > Remember that it'll also (permanently) remove any other messages with the > \Deleted flag, though. > > [If, however, the \Deleted flag isn't being set, then this must be as a > result of a bug of some sort. 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This way I can better test this wonderful tool and provide much more concrete test results when using the Outlook addin. In terms of the spam filtering accuracy when using different training methods and/or options for the SpamBayes engine. Any information on this would be greatly appreciated and thanks for all the hard work. Erik Brown -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041014/bc9a61c0/attachment.htm From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Oct 14 22:23:35 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Oct 14 22:23:48 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Win32 Command Line In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I compared the source code for sb_filter.py that > I was running and the source code from the zip file and I see that > somewhere along the line the line action(msg) was removed. > Put it back in and we have PERFECTION! Great :) > Now, my next task is to find a way to OPTIMIZE sb_filter so > that it doesn't need to reload the database with every single > execution. My goal is to put this thing on a server as a mail > filter. I want to limit the overhead on each execution if possible. > > Any ideas on how to make the database portion stay resident > and use it with calls to sb_filter? This is the goal of sb_bnfilter/sb_bnserver (there's also a C version of one of them, to optimise for speed, although it's not in any releases yet). However, those scripts are definitely *nix only as they use unix domain sockets (for the server & filter scripts to communicate). The scripts could be adapted to work on Windows, but almost all of the code would need to change, I think, as the scripts don't really do very much (the core SpamBayes code does most of the work). Alternatively, new Windows versions of the scripts (that used regular TCP/IP sockets) could be created. However, this sounds much like sb_server & sb_upload, which you could probably use instead (although you have just spent all that time figuring out sb_filter...). If you run sb_server without configuring it for any POP3/SMTP proxies, it just runs the web interface (which you could ignore; it is accessible to any other program on that machine, but not elsewhere (by default)). You can use sb_upload (from CVS - the training switches are new) to train messages, much like you use sb_filter. That leaves classifying: you could probably still use sb_filter for this; generally having two processes access the same database isn't good, but since one is read only, and assuming that you'd have it set up so that it wasn't ever training at the same time as it was classifying, it should be ok, I think. Otherwise you'd need to patch sb_upload to be able to classify (I could probably do this for you). Have a think about what you'd like, and I'm happy to help out with coding (as my time allows). =Tony Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Oct 14 22:24:57 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Oct 14 22:25:22 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook plugin: Any problems with SSL and multipleaccounts? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I have Win2K PL (Poland) and Outlook 2000 PL (Poland) and use > several e-mail accounts. One of them (POP as wellas SMTP) is > protected by SSL. Will SpamBayes Outlook plugin work with all this? It should be fine. The Outlook plug-in isn't actually involved in the mail delivery at all (unlike the other SpamBayes scripts). It waits until Outlook has done that work, and notifies SpamBayes that mail has been received. It then gets hold of the mail via Outlook and processes it, by which time SSL isn't involved. Multiple accounts are certainly fine. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Oct 14 22:28:15 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Oct 14 22:28:35 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Filtering In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Nothing is filtering into "junk suspects" any more; > everything just stays in the inbox. What could be > causing this and how can I fix it? Is anything working? i.e. if you click one of the buttons on the SpamBayes toolbar, does it do anything? If not, then it's probably disabled (by Outlook). Check Help->About Microsoft Outlook->Disabled Items to see if SpamBayes is there. If you can click the SpamBayes button to get the SpamBayes manager, then see if the "Enable SpamBayes" box is ticked. If not, tick it - if you can't, then there will be a message in the box above it explaining why. If the box is ticked, then are the messages being scored as spam/unsure and not moving? Select one and use the "Show spam clues for this message" function to see what it scored. If it's simply being scored as ham, then you need to do more training (if you can't figure out why it's scoring what it is, then you can send an example of the clues to the list and we'll try to help). If it's scoring correctly, but not moving, then please send us a copy of your most recent log file (the troubleshooting guide explains where that is). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Oct 14 22:39:23 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Oct 14 22:39:28 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Win32 Command Line In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > With sb_server running, does sb_filter use the database > that's already in memory or does it load it off disk, parse > it, run the algorithm against the passed message, and then > unload? Is that how sb_filter works in the current configuration? Opps. Sorry, I should have thought more before I wrote that (early in the morning here). You're right, sb_filter would still load up the database that's still in memory. So the two options would be modifying sb_upload to also classify or creating Windows versions of sb_bnfilter/sb_bnserver. The former would be much simpler and avoid duplicating work, but the latter might be slightly faster (I'm not sure, though). > > Have a think about what you'd like, and I'm happy to help out > > with coding (as my time allows). > > Careful, I may take you up on that. :-> It seems like something that could possibly be of general use, so I wouldn't particularly mind. It also shouldn't be that complicated (unlike the filters, proxies & plug-ins). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From cv at alpconsultants.com Thu Oct 14 07:05:14 2004 From: cv at alpconsultants.com (cv@alpconsultants.com) Date: Thu Oct 14 22:45:48 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Do you? Message-ID: <200410140504.i9E543O26294@uusnwa0n.utc.com> ------------------ Virus Warning Message (on uusnwa0n) Found virus WORM_NETSKY.P in file details.txt .pif (in d4334938.zip) The file is deleted. --------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- Your photo, uahhh.... , you are naked! -------------- next part -------------- ------------------ Virus Warning Message (on uusnwa0n) d4334938.zip is removed from here because it contains a virus. --------------------------------------------------------- From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Oct 14 22:46:35 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Oct 14 22:46:40 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Win32 Command Line In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > By the way, I now have SpamBayes fully integrated with > MailEnable and it's parsing spam server wide as messages come > into the system. I'm using sb_filter.py and it spikes to > about 40-60% CPU when it's parsing a message, which takes a > fraction of a second. Not too bad... I just want to make it > go FAAAASTER... :-) > > Anybody interested in a how-to manual? Absolutely, if you're willing to create one. I'll put/link to it on spambayes.org/server_side.html if it's ok with you. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From brown at dui-dwi.com Thu Oct 14 17:14:14 2004 From: brown at dui-dwi.com (DUI-DWI) Date: Fri Oct 15 00:01:03 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Clues: How one can become a terrorist? Message-ID: <20041014151503.LDA2361.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@seeker> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Subject: How one can become a terrorist? Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 07:45:42 -0400 Size: 2852 Url: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041014/b1e6c2fb/attachment-0001.mht From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Oct 15 03:18:38 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Oct 15 03:18:44 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I'm not sure what to put in the address of my email > account. I do not get the spam untrained information > from my emails. I'm obviously doing something wrong. > Can you help. > > where you would normally put your POP3 server address, > you should now put the address of the machine running > SpamBayes It looks like you're using Outlook Express, so I'll give instructions for that - if you're using something else, let us know and we can explain further. I'll also assume that you're just using the one mail server, and have successfully set up SpamBayes, using port 110 to proxy. In OE, go to Accounts from the Tools menu, and select the mail account (clicking the Mail tab might help find it). Click Properties. Click the Servers tab. In the "incoming" box, write "localhost" (without the quotes). Ok & close your way back out again, and you're done. Note that for Outlook Express you also need to have ticked the "Notate Subject" or "Notate To" unsure & spam boxes on the main SpamBayes configuration page. (Go to http://localhost:8880/config to do that). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Oct 15 06:54:02 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Oct 15 06:54:10 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] IMAP script problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Not sure if the attachment will get through the list, but > I've included a screenshot from Mulberry to clarify - the > "marked for deletion" messages are shown by a red strikeout > line through the text, ones that SB hasn't touched yet are > still bold blue for unread, and the "read" (processed > messages) are regular text. Ok, so this look more like it could be a bug then. Does imapfilter print out any errors? Does a copy end up in the unsure/spam folder as well as the one left in the inbox? Are the unsure/spam folder options definitely correctly set? Are these definitely scoring as unsure/spam? (If you look at the headers, there ought to be a classification one that specifies what SpamBayes thought it was). You could try running imapfilter with "-i4", removing your username/password from the output (it'll be at the top) and sending that in (to me offlist if you'd rather). That outputs the IMAP4 conversation between SpamBayes and the IMAP server, so it's clear exactly what is happening. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Oct 15 06:57:56 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Oct 15 06:58:08 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] uncomfortable pauses with outlook plugin... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Thanks for the replies. When I disable incremental training, > moving items is instantaneous. All the folders are on a local > hard drive's PST file. Sounds like it is SpamBayes, then. > My database has 1185 good messages ate 2077 spam - I don't > know if this is large or not, since I don't see other > people's databases. Fairly medium, I would say. Shouldn't be the cause. Shouldn't be a case of the weird new database slowdown, either. Odd! > So, with that said, I'll retrain the database and see what that does. > > If there's a problem, I'll touch base. Great, thanks :) I'll assume that retraining fixed it if we don't hear back. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Oct 15 07:02:23 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Oct 15 07:02:31 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Working, But slow In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I recently reformatted my computer from 2000 pro to > xp pro. I reinstalled Office XP, including outlook > 2002 from the same disks I had used on 2k. Now though, > when I click delete as spam there is about a 15 second > lag before the message is sent to the junk folder. > The same delay exists on new messages coming in. Hmm. The lag on new messages *might* just be the background filtering. What values do you have that set to? (Advanced tab of the SpamBayes manager dialog). You could try disabling that and seeing if it makes any difference. There are two other possible causes that come to mind: (a) It's Outlook that's the problem. Are other actions with Outlook (like moving messages from one folder to another) slow? If so, then maybe the store is too big, or needs compacting or running scanpst over it? (b) It's accessing the SpamBayes database that's causing problems. This is a little similar to another recent report (although no other ones I can recall) except that it was only using the buttons (i.e. when training) that was slow. My suggested fix was to try retraining from scratch. It would be worth trying that here, too. (If you wanted to, you could always back up your databases, as described in the FAQ, beforehand and put them back if it doesn't work). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From markbarrett at sencouk.co.uk Fri Oct 15 16:36:53 2004 From: markbarrett at sencouk.co.uk (Mark Barrett) Date: Fri Oct 15 16:36:59 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes crashes system when Outlook launched Message-ID: <20041015143513.YKZO25095.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@tower1> Installed SpamBayes 1.0rc2 with Outlook in Windows XP. It worked very well for a while and then, when I opened Outlook the system rebooted and MS gave an error report of Device Error, sometimes Graphics. I have an NVIDIA 5500 card. 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Also contains license, icon, uninstaller, dat file, and Spambayes-1.Orc2 If you look in your temp folder (probably C:\Documents and Settings\{username}\Local Settings\temp) is there a Spambayes1.log file there? (If there is, then the contents of this could help us figure out what is happening). **Yes, actually there are 4. The first 2 say "registration complete"; the 4th says: "Loaded bayes database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Papa\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db' Loaded message database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Papa\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db' Bayes database initialized with 1 spam and 11 good messages SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0rc2 (June 2004) starting (with engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004)) on Windows 5.1.2600 (Service Pack 2) using Python 2.3.3 (#51, Feb 13 2004, 14:39:56) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Personal Folders/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Hotmail/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Personal Folders/Junk E-Mail' Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer FAILED to add the toolbar item 'SpamBayesCommand.Manager' - (-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.', (0, None, None, None, 0, -2147467259), None) The above toolbar message is common - recreating the toolbar... SpamBayes - Disconnecting from Outlook SpamBayes has processed zero messages Addin terminating: 2 COM client and 2 COM servers exist." =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From flangevin at marchnetworks.com Fri Oct 15 19:25:14 2004 From: flangevin at marchnetworks.com (Francois Langevin) Date: Fri Oct 15 19:26:35 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] unopened mail icon in system tray Message-ID: <3BBD8AB1E1EB12418982A3A8E7C5F624044E37AE@orion.marchnetworks.com> Hello On Windows XP SP2 I was trying to setup Spambaye to have the messages in the junk email folder "mark as read" (using Outlook 2000) Although this works, the mail icon in the system tray does not disappear. This constantly prompts me to check for mail when most of the time it is spam and already marked as read. 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I'm heading home now (well, not NOW), and will be observing the speed extensively this weekend. I'll report back if there are any problems. -Warr On Oct 14, 2004, at 9:57 PM, Tony Meyer wrote: >> Thanks for the replies. When I disable incremental training, >> moving items is instantaneous. All the folders are on a local >> hard drive's PST file. > > Sounds like it is SpamBayes, then. > >> My database has 1185 good messages ate 2077 spam - I don't >> know if this is large or not, since I don't see other >> people's databases. > > Fairly medium, I would say. Shouldn't be the cause. Shouldn't be a > case of > the weird new database slowdown, either. 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Actually I was surprised about the 5%, as I got used to start SB filtering manually. I'm enclosing the SB log, before starting filtering manually and then after shutting down Outlook. As you can see, no errors show up regarding filtering. Amir -----Original Message----- From: Katz, Amir [mailto:Amir_Katz@bmc.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 09:22 To: Tony Meyer Cc: 'Spambayes mailing list' Subject: RE: [Spambayes] SB plug-in and Outlook 2003 Tony, 1. I will try to get the log next time this happens. 2. Yes, in online mode SB works as before; in Offline mode it happens most of the time. My impression is that SB is not invoked at all. Amir -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 08:55 To: 'Katz, Amir'; 'Spambayes mailing list' Subject: RE: [Spambayes] SB plug-in and Outlook 2003 > I've recently upgraded to Outlook 2003 (from OL 2000) and I > encountered this problem: at home, I start OL2003 in offline mode. At > some point I connect to the Exchange server and perform the operation > 'download Inbox headers'. > Once all headers are retrieved from the server, I mark them (all or > some) for download and connect again to the Exchange server. At this > stage, the full mails are downloaded. So far, so good, no change from > OL2000 to OL2003. > > However, at this point, with Outlook 2000, SpamBayes would kick in and > start filtering. In OL2003, nothing happens - all mails are sitting in > the Inbox. When I use the SB menu 'Filter Messages' and then 'Start > filtering', only then the messages are filtered. Does the log contain any error messages? Does it show any indication that a new message has been received? Is there any difference in behaviour between background filtering enabled and disabled? (Blind guesses, really). =Tony Meyer -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Please see FAQ 3.8: =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Oct 17 01:05:36 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun Oct 17 01:05:40 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] installing? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > How do I instal spam bias Assuming that you are either using Microsoft Outlook (2000 or above) or getting mail via POP3, with Windows (98 or above): 1. Download the installer - follow the instructions on http://spambayes.org/windows.html 2. Double-click the installer when it's finished downloading. 3. Follow through the installation process. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From nathan at mammoth.com.au Sun Oct 17 01:39:35 2004 From: nathan at mammoth.com.au (Nathan O'Sullivan) Date: Sun Oct 17 02:05:22 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Can't connect from remote server Message-ID: <019a01c4b3d9$65a517d0$0a00a8c0@nathan> I have successfully setup and used SpamBayes pop3proxy on my Windows PC (connecting to localhost) for a few months. Now, I wish to stop using the mail client on the PC SpamBayes is setup on, and instead use a mail client on a 2nd pc on my home network. The documentation seems to indicate this shall work, however whenever I try to connect (for eg, using) telnet 192.168.0.2 110 SpamBayes accepts the connection and then immediately prints: -ERR Connection not allowed Is there some option I need to enable in my configuration file to tell SpamBayes to allow non-local connections to the mail port? Regards Nathan From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Oct 17 03:02:51 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun Oct 17 03:02:59 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Can't connect from remote server In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > whenever I try to connect (for eg, using) telnet 192.168.0.2 110 > > SpamBayes accepts the connection and then immediately prints: > -ERR Connection not allowed > > Is there some option I need to enable in my configuration > file to tell SpamBayes to allow non-local connections to the > mail port? Yes (this is for security reasons). Go to the Advanced Options page of the web interface, and towards the end are the appropriate options "Allowed remote connections". A bug (of sorts) with the current release means that the three options (POP connections, SMTP connections, HTTP connections) are identically labelled - the first one is HTTP, the next POP, then the last SMTP. You probably want the same value in each, anyway, however. You can change them from "localhost" to "*" to allow connections from anywhere, or (better) put (eg) "localhost,192.168.0.2" in to just allow the two machines. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From cats_palace at bmail.com.au Sun Oct 17 07:54:27 2004 From: cats_palace at bmail.com.au (cats_palace) Date: Sun Oct 17 07:56:19 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes spam filter programme.... At this stage IT'S A CROCK !!!!!! Message-ID: <000a01c4b40d$c479aee0$76f31dd3@thebeast> To whom it my Concern Your programme doesn't work on a millennium based operating system using a P3 800 Processor. I use Outlook Express as the email service. zone alarm 4.5pro and Vet antivirus The motherboard is a gigabyte board with an 815e Intel chipset. It has 512mb of ram I have tried to configure this application until the cows come home and I am still up to my armpits in spam the server isn't installing and sitting between my ISP and this machine Your information pages are exceptionally difficult to follow and the directories that you instruct people to go to are incorrect. I don't have the administrator tool available on this system to manually configure this programme. Or the Local etc. If I was to put the address into the proxy settings what the hell is the address of the port is it 8880 or 110 You need to them into single operating systems or group them such as Win/98/ME installations ...etc then group the different mail clients under those OS headers. Much simpler I find it hard to conceive that APC magazine would recommend your Product. So it's FREE... well the programme should work I'm glad I didn't donate! I know enough to Build, Programme and successfully operate a standalone computer. Why are your setup instructions so hard to follow! I put a challenge to you : that you are unable to provide me with the CORRECT setup instructions and the associated Help files to successfully implement this programme into the computer. Presented in plain English...that is to say a minimum of Geek speech or at least have a geekSpeek reference page at your site that links to a NEW WINDOW!. Icons wont load programme wont run Programme refuses to learn Cant find databases and the list goes on........ I know I'm doing something wrong but I have a life outside this keyboard!!!!!. It's time you clarified you instructions to something than can be easily understood. You should have the email address already but here it is again cats_palace@bmail.com.au I like many other operators are ether not DOS trained or just a computer user that have been taught informally. If you wish to release this or a similar product commercially you would have difficulty in sustaining sales. Way to hard for a basic user! I will provide you with the necessary system Info on your request. I added my name to your mailing list too! Cheers and sorry about the negativity but it is too hard to get to work with out some sort of background in this sort area. I have no experience in networking and this is very difficult for the home user to get to work.And I have read and NOT understood a great deal from you web Pages My partner as a basic user has no hope of getting this application to work appropriately I am going to uninstall your programme and reinstall it and try once more. I will expect to hear from you. Thank you Mick Young -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041017/758e0779/attachment.html From csyc at comcast.net Mon Oct 18 00:17:23 2004 From: csyc at comcast.net (Paul Lady) Date: Mon Oct 18 00:16:48 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Shot own foot? Message-ID: I upgraded my Spambayes version, and seemed to lose all the training I had done with the earlier version. This was a setback, not a showstopper, but I?d like to not repeat the experience. Any guesses what I did wrong? Thx, pjl -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041017/5da056ec/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Oct 18 01:16:39 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Oct 18 01:16:46 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Shot own foot? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I upgraded my Spambayes version, and seemed to > lose all the training I had done with the earlier version. > > This was a setback, not a showstopper, but I'd like > to not repeat the experience. This shouldn't happen. Did you manually delete any files? The training is sorted in the default_bayes_database.db file that's in the data directory (normally with Win2K/XP, this is /Documents and Settings/{username}/Application Data/SpamBayes). Are you running with a different (Windows) username? Did you do any SpamBayes configuration (like run the configuration wizard)? =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Oct 18 01:47:37 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Oct 18 01:47:43 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes spam filter programme.... At this stage IT'SA CROCK !!!!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Your information pages are exceptionally difficult > to follow Comments like this don't help. What exactly is difficult to follow? We need specifics in order to make things better - ideally, both identification of particular sections that are hard to understand, and (once you have figured them out), suggested improvements to the wording. > and the directories that you instruct people to go to > are incorrect. Again, this is not helpful. Give specific examples of any mistakes and we will happily correct them. > I don't have the administrator tool available on this > system to manually configure this programme. Or the Local etc. This makes no sense. What "administrator tool" are you referring to? What do you mean by "the Local"? You don't need anything to configure SpamBayes other than SpamBayes itself. > If I was to put the address into the proxy settings what [...] is the > address of the port is it 8880 or 110 I presume you are referring to the "SpamBayes Ports" option. The help string for that option says: """ Each POP3 server that is being monitored must be assigned to a 'port' in the SpamBayes POP3 proxy. This port must be different for each monitored server, and there must be a port for each monitored server. Again, you need to configure your email client to use this port. If there are multiple servers, you must specify the same number of ports as servers, separated by commas. If you don't know what to use here, and you only have one server, try 110, or if that doesn't work, try 8110. """ The last sentence indicates that you should try 110 (falling back to 8110). If you are referring to setting up Outlook Express, you simply use whatever port you used in the above section. If this was 110, then OE will default to this, so you don't need to change anything. > You need to them into single operating systems or group them > such as Win/98/ME installations ...etc then group the different > mail clients under those OS headers. Much simpler If you would like to contribute such documentation, we will happily integrate it. Patches can be submitted via the sourceforge system: . For us, that is a *huge* amount of work, involving platforms and mailers that we don't necessarily have access to. I personally feel that it would be overkill, anyway. Configuring SpamBayes involves almost nothing that is platform specific (the only platform-specific things I can think of are finding the log files if something goes wrong - and the automatic bug report creator will do that for you, or locating your data directory if you need to for some reason - and the configuration page tells you where that is). Instructions for configuring various mailers with SpamBayes might be of more use, but it's generally not a particularly hard thing to do, and we have instructions for the most common mailers. In the longer term, the 1.1a1 release will include a configuration wizard, similar to the one the Outlook plug-in has, that sets both SpamBayes and various common (Windows) mailers up. This wasn't able to be completed in time for the 1.0 release. > I find it hard to conceive that APC magazine would recommend > your Product. So it's FREE... well the programme should work > I'm glad I didn't donate! You'll have to take that up with the magazine in question. We have nothing to do with them (I've never even heard of it), so they presumably wrote an independent review like they review any other product. IAC, I'm sure that the many other SpamBayes users would assert that it did, in fact, work. FWIW, you are under no obligation at all to donate, whether or not you use SpamBayes. We provide the opportunity to donate because some people really want to. The funds don't even go to us (see http://spambayes.org/donate.html), so they have no effect on the development or support of SpamBayes itself. We're very happy for you (or anyone else) to use SpamBayes without any donation. > I know enough to Build, Programme and successfully operate a > standalone computer. Why are your setup instructions so hard to > follow! Well, they're easy enough for the majority of other users, so you're probably just getting stuck on some simple step for which the documentation isn't clear to you, or something. IAC, that's where the mailing list can help, although I would recommend posting more polite messages if you would like prompt help in the future. > Icons wont load > programme wont run > Programme refuses to learn > Cant find databases and the list goes on........ When trying to get help, it really helps *us* if you ask a clear question. You may wish to read this: If by "icons wont load" you mean that images on the web interface aren't appearing, I have no idea what would cause this - we would need to see your log file. "programme wont run" could be any number of things. Again, the log file would help. "Programme refuses to learn" indicates that SpamBayes *is* running, but could mean that training isn't working (again, log files), or that training is working, but you're not getting the classification results you expect (in that case, we need to see the clues for that message - before training on it). "Cant find databases" - do you mean that *you* can't find the databases (the configuration page shows the path to them, but you shouldn't need to know where they are anyway), or that SpamBayes can't find them (it would just create new ones in that case). > If you wish to release this or a similar product > commercially you would have difficulty in sustaining sales. It seems you don't understand the open source concept that underlies the SpamBayes release: This isn't, and will never be, commercial software. No-one will ever have to pay for this software. It will always be free. It is developed by a group of volunteers in their free time, who make no money from this at all. Improvements either come because a developer is willing to help out a user, because a developer wants a feature him/herself, or - and this is key - because a user submitted an improvement they created themselves. More information about open source software can be found at: Information about how you (or anyone else) can help with improving SpamBayes is covered in FAQ 4.15: > My partner as a basic user has no hope of getting this > application to work appropriately FWIW, my wife is fairly computer illiterate, and managed to setup sb-server without any of my help, just reading the instructions. In addition, if you compare (eg) the 1.0a1 release and the 1.0 final release, I'm sure you'd agree that things have vastly improved. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From richie at entrian.com Mon Oct 18 08:20:36 2004 From: richie at entrian.com (Richie Hindle) Date: Mon Oct 18 08:20:40 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes spam filter programme.... At this stage IT'SA CROCK !!!!!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Tony, you have the patience of a saint. I take my hat off to you. -- Richie Hindle richie@entrian.com From anders.eriksson at morateknikutveckling.se Mon Oct 18 09:03:22 2004 From: anders.eriksson at morateknikutveckling.se (Anders Eriksson) Date: Mon Oct 18 09:03:33 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Nice tool to use together with SpamBayes Message-ID: <703hlaf59oi9$.dlg@morateknikutveckling.se> Hello All SB users! I just want to recommend a tool which I use together with SpamBayes. It's called PocketKnife Peek and makes it possible to view mail without using Outlook's viewer. This means that there is no risk for auto starting virus or other things. It also shows all headers and ... It will work for Outlook 2000 and later. PocketKnife Peek is free for personal use. You'll find it here: http://www.xintercept.com/pkpeek.htm // Anders -- PS! I'm not affiliated with the makers of PocketKnife Peek. I'm just a happy user! From johnt at amileasing.com Mon Oct 18 14:08:59 2004 From: johnt at amileasing.com (Tsombakos, John) Date: Mon Oct 18 14:13:03 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook [still!] freezing every day Message-ID: <98385AF6669BD511B69800508BB34FEE062B12A5@mail.amileasing.com> Help! I've installed the 1.0 version of Spambayes (Outlook plugin - Outlook 2000, exchange server 5), but it is still freezing up Outlook. It doesn't happen during the day and the junk mail flows in, just overnight. It hung up this time almost right after I left work Friday and I had to restart it this morning. The thing is, my email gets delivered to my Personal Folders, spam and all, but Outlook doesn't respond when I try to bring it to the front. I have to force kill it and restart, then let SpamBayes go through the 300+ messages and pull the junk out. My setup is I have personal folders that my email get delivered to - it first comes to my Mailbox, then Outlook "delivers" the mail to my personal folders. I then have some rules that move the messages to various sub-folders. I've tried different combinations of telling Spambays which folder to scan - the Mailbox/Inbox (which is the Exchange server), the Personal Folders/Inbox, and both. I've played with the background timer settings - turning off, turning on, changing the delay times. But sometime during the night, Spambayes just goes to la-la land, and takes Outlook with it. I have to kill the Outlook task and restart. Is there anything I can do? Are there suggested/recommended delay times to use? It's driving me crazy having to have to restart outlook every day. The Spambayes log does not show any errors - I've included the whole log from when it froze this time. Please, does anyone have any insight, anything I can check!! I really like SB, when it works, it works well. But if I have to restart Outlook every day, I might have to look elsewhere. Thanks again From johnt at amileasing.com Mon Oct 18 14:09:42 2004 From: johnt at amileasing.com (Tsombakos, John) Date: Mon Oct 18 14:13:24 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] (More) Outlook freezing (log included) Message-ID: <98385AF6669BD511B69800508BB34FEE062B12A8@mail.amileasing.com> Here's the log I said I would include... <> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: spambayes2.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 36720 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041018/1f9f2163/spambayes2.obj From bandrews at trendinfluence.com Mon Oct 18 14:13:28 2004 From: bandrews at trendinfluence.com (Bryan D. Andrews) Date: Mon Oct 18 14:15:15 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 refresh issue? Message-ID: Any news on this issue (clicking delete and outlook not reflecting this until you click away)? Thanks. From M.G.Faina at Thomson.com Mon Oct 18 16:09:28 2004 From: M.G.Faina at Thomson.com (Faina, Mihail) Date: Mon Oct 18 16:09:38 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes spam filter programme.... At this stage IT'SA CROCK !!!!!! Message-ID: Tony, I commend you for your patience! Keep up the good work, SpamBayes is a GREAT open source application and it gets better every day due to your team work and customer support that you don't have to do! -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Tony Meyer Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 7:48 PM To: 'cats_palace'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] SpamBayes spam filter programme.... At this stage IT'SA CROCK !!!!!! > Your information pages are exceptionally difficult > to follow Comments like this don't help. What exactly is difficult to follow? We need specifics in order to make things better - ideally, both identification of particular sections that are hard to understand, and (once you have figured them out), suggested improvements to the wording. > and the directories that you instruct people to go to > are incorrect. Again, this is not helpful. Give specific examples of any mistakes and we will happily correct them. > I don't have the administrator tool available on this > system to manually configure this programme. Or the Local etc. This makes no sense. What "administrator tool" are you referring to? What do you mean by "the Local"? You don't need anything to configure SpamBayes other than SpamBayes itself. > If I was to put the address into the proxy settings what [...] is the > address of the port is it 8880 or 110 I presume you are referring to the "SpamBayes Ports" option. The help string for that option says: """ Each POP3 server that is being monitored must be assigned to a 'port' in the SpamBayes POP3 proxy. This port must be different for each monitored server, and there must be a port for each monitored server. Again, you need to configure your email client to use this port. If there are multiple servers, you must specify the same number of ports as servers, separated by commas. If you don't know what to use here, and you only have one server, try 110, or if that doesn't work, try 8110. """ The last sentence indicates that you should try 110 (falling back to 8110). If you are referring to setting up Outlook Express, you simply use whatever port you used in the above section. If this was 110, then OE will default to this, so you don't need to change anything. > You need to them into single operating systems or group them > such as Win/98/ME installations ...etc then group the different > mail clients under those OS headers. Much simpler If you would like to contribute such documentation, we will happily integrate it. Patches can be submitted via the sourceforge system: . For us, that is a *huge* amount of work, involving platforms and mailers that we don't necessarily have access to. I personally feel that it would be overkill, anyway. Configuring SpamBayes involves almost nothing that is platform specific (the only platform-specific things I can think of are finding the log files if something goes wrong - and the automatic bug report creator will do that for you, or locating your data directory if you need to for some reason - and the configuration page tells you where that is). Instructions for configuring various mailers with SpamBayes might be of more use, but it's generally not a particularly hard thing to do, and we have instructions for the most common mailers. In the longer term, the 1.1a1 release will include a configuration wizard, similar to the one the Outlook plug-in has, that sets both SpamBayes and various common (Windows) mailers up. This wasn't able to be completed in time for the 1.0 release. > I find it hard to conceive that APC magazine would recommend > your Product. So it's FREE... well the programme should work > I'm glad I didn't donate! You'll have to take that up with the magazine in question. We have nothing to do with them (I've never even heard of it), so they presumably wrote an independent review like they review any other product. IAC, I'm sure that the many other SpamBayes users would assert that it did, in fact, work. FWIW, you are under no obligation at all to donate, whether or not you use SpamBayes. We provide the opportunity to donate because some people really want to. The funds don't even go to us (see http://spambayes.org/donate.html), so they have no effect on the development or support of SpamBayes itself. We're very happy for you (or anyone else) to use SpamBayes without any donation. > I know enough to Build, Programme and successfully operate a > standalone computer. Why are your setup instructions so hard to > follow! Well, they're easy enough for the majority of other users, so you're probably just getting stuck on some simple step for which the documentation isn't clear to you, or something. IAC, that's where the mailing list can help, although I would recommend posting more polite messages if you would like prompt help in the future. > Icons wont load > programme wont run > Programme refuses to learn > Cant find databases and the list goes on........ When trying to get help, it really helps *us* if you ask a clear question. You may wish to read this: If by "icons wont load" you mean that images on the web interface aren't appearing, I have no idea what would cause this - we would need to see your log file. "programme wont run" could be any number of things. Again, the log file would help. "Programme refuses to learn" indicates that SpamBayes *is* running, but could mean that training isn't working (again, log files), or that training is working, but you're not getting the classification results you expect (in that case, we need to see the clues for that message - before training on it). "Cant find databases" - do you mean that *you* can't find the databases (the configuration page shows the path to them, but you shouldn't need to know where they are anyway), or that SpamBayes can't find them (it would just create new ones in that case). > If you wish to release this or a similar product > commercially you would have difficulty in sustaining sales. It seems you don't understand the open source concept that underlies the SpamBayes release: This isn't, and will never be, commercial software. No-one will ever have to pay for this software. It will always be free. It is developed by a group of volunteers in their free time, who make no money from this at all. Improvements either come because a developer is willing to help out a user, because a developer wants a feature him/herself, or - and this is key - because a user submitted an improvement they created themselves. More information about open source software can be found at: Information about how you (or anyone else) can help with improving SpamBayes is covered in FAQ 4.15: > My partner as a basic user has no hope of getting this > application to work appropriately FWIW, my wife is fairly computer illiterate, and managed to setup sb-server without any of my help, just reading the instructions. In addition, if you compare (eg) the 1.0a1 release and the 1.0 final release, I'm sure you'd agree that things have vastly improved. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From rmalayter at bai.org Mon Oct 18 21:46:24 2004 From: rmalayter at bai.org (Ryan Malayter) Date: Mon Oct 18 21:46:29 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes spam filter programme.... At this stage IT'SA CROCK !!!!!! Message-ID: <792DE28E91F6EA42B4663AE761C41C2A030BB9C7@cliff.bai.org> > I will expect to hear from you. Don't hold your breath. This is a non-commercial product supported for free by volunteers in their spare time. Nobody sells it, or ever intends to sell it. A rude and demanding message such as this will get you nowhere. If you want a commercial anti-spam product with commercial support, try http://www.inboxer.com. Or maybe http://www.spambully.com. Both of these software vendors will hold your hand if you purchase their respective products (which are based on Bayesian algorithms similar to those used in Spambayes). You also might want to consider upgrading your machine to Windows XP at least; Windows 95/98/Millenium support is being phased out by Microsoft very soon now. From FECTS001/FEC/US at fec.gov Mon Oct 18 22:40:06 2004 From: FECTS001/FEC/US at fec.gov (FECTS001/FEC/US@fec.gov) Date: Mon Oct 18 23:04:59 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] FEC Report to Sender Message-ID: Incident Information:- Database: d:/lotus/domino/data/mail2.box Originator: spambayes@python.org Recipients: webmaster@fec.gov Subject: Is that your password? Date/Time: 10/18/2004 04:40:05 PM The file attachment private_01.zip you sent to the recipients listed above was infected with the W32/Netsky.p@MM!zip virus and was successfully cleaned. The cleaned message was delivered successfully to the Federal Election Commission. From Michael.Yates at intecbilling.com Tue Oct 19 01:45:00 2004 From: Michael.Yates at intecbilling.com (Yates, Michael) Date: Tue Oct 19 01:45:13 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: Trapping Spam messages that contain images... Message-ID: I am using the Spambayes Outlook plug-in, and I have found Spambayes to be a saviour in the fight against Spam mail. However these days I am receiving a new kind of Spam that sneaks through my defences and Spambayes cannot trap. These Spam basically look like a normal email, containing randomly generated sentences, but with no Spam style phrases to train on like "viagra" or "cheap software" etc. Each email contains a reference to an image on a remote site, with the image itself containing the advertising text. In my case "Viagra $1.39", or whatever the going price is that day. Spambayes rarely traps these Spam as "Junk E-Mail" and quite often doesn't even trap them as "Junk Suspects", because the Spam score on these messages ranges anywhere between 0% and 100%. To reduce the impact of the problem I've decreased my "Certain Spam" threshold right down to 20%, but sometimes these Spam still come through with a lower Spam score. Plus by setting my "Certain Spam" threshold so low, I am running the risk that Ham could be classified as Spam. Anyhow, I had an idea to trap these type of messages that I thought I might put out for discussion. It would probably involve quite a level of effort but I believe it would close a loophole that Spam senders are currently using. Basically it would involve some additional functionality allow OCR processing of images that are referenced on emails. When an email is received if there are any html references to images, or images actually contained in the email, then the image(s) would be retrieved and processed via an OCR algorithm. Then the resulting text (if any) could be checked for Spam in the same way done currently by Spambayes. Now I realise this would likely have a performance impact on email processing, and also increase a users data usage as it could result in Spambayes retrieving images from the internet to scan for character data. To reduce this impact a number of options could be added to Spambayes... 1. By default OCR processing is switched off. Then the people like me who receive these Spam that contain images could turn it on only if required. 2. An option to specify that OCR processing of attached/referenced images only be done in the background, in a similar way to the current Spambayes background filtering option. This would mean that when emails first arrive there would not be a pause while the images are being scanned. 3. A threshold to specify when and when not to perform OCR processing on emails, similar to the existing thresholds for Spam and Suspect Spam. For example.... Spam Threshold: 90% Suspect Threshold: 15% OCR Threshold: 5% Anyhow, it's just a thought. Maybe it's already be considered. What do you think? regards, Michael From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Oct 19 05:52:24 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Oct 19 05:52:38 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Shot own foot? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Does the program continue to train as you delete spam? If you use the "Delete as spam" or "Recover from spam" buttons training is done. If you manually move a message into the spam folder or into a watched folder, *and* the "incremental training" options (Training tab) are ticked, then training is done then, too. =Tony Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Oct 19 06:06:43 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Oct 19 06:06:51 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: Trapping Spam messages that contain images... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > However these days I am receiving a new kind of Spam that sneaks > through my defences and Spambayes cannot trap. Try enabling some of the experimental options. In particular, try: [Classifier] x-use_bigrams [Tokenizer] x-pick_apart_urls [Tokenizer] x-fancy_url_recognition [URLRetriever] x-slurp_urls To try these with the Outlook plug-in, open (or create) the file default_bayes_customize.ini in your data directory, and add the option(s), like this: [Classifier] x-use_bigrams:True > Anyhow, I had an idea to trap these type of messages that I > thought I might put out for discussion. [...] Basically > it would involve some additional functionality allow OCR > processing of images that are referenced on emails. It has been a long time since I've done any OCR - is it really fast and accurate enough to be useful in situations like this? We'd also (probably) need to use an open-source OCR library (rather than write our own), which adds packaging complications. It's possible it would help, but I suspect that it would be very expensive for little gain. Feel free to add it to the wiki http://entrian.com/sbwiki, where there are other ideas to try out. I get hardly any false negatives/unsures that are mostly images. If I ever do (and so have a testing corpus), then I think it would be interesting to try a simpler scheme, where tokens are generated based on simple features (perhaps Haar-like features) of the image, and the classifier uses those as it would like. The theory would be that it could pick up some features common to good/bad images without looking for things like text. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From brown at dui-dwi.com Tue Oct 19 06:29:13 2004 From: brown at dui-dwi.com (DUI-DWI) Date: Tue Oct 19 06:29:59 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Nice tool to use together with SpamBayes In-Reply-To: <703hlaf59oi9$.dlg@morateknikutveckling.se> Message-ID: <20041019042952.GHIZ2425.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@seeker> Thanks for the info Anders. However, didn't Microsoft resolve all of these issues with Outlook 2003 SP1? Webmaster -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Anders Eriksson Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 3:03 AM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Nice tool to use together with SpamBayes Hello All SB users! I just want to recommend a tool which I use together with SpamBayes. It's called PocketKnife Peek and makes it possible to view mail without using Outlook's viewer. This means that there is no risk for auto starting virus or other things. It also shows all headers and ... It will work for Outlook 2000 and later. PocketKnife Peek is free for personal use. You'll find it here: http://www.xintercept.com/pkpeek.htm // Anders -- PS! I'm not affiliated with the makers of PocketKnife Peek. I'm just a happy user! _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From melissa.prieto at prd-foods.com Mon Oct 18 07:55:04 2004 From: melissa.prieto at prd-foods.com (melissa.prieto@prd-foods.com) Date: Tue Oct 19 06:37:14 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Failure Message-ID: <200410180553.i9I5rkD26640@uusnwa0n.utc.com> ------------------ Virus Warning Message (on uusnwa0n) Found virus WORM_NETSKY.P in file details.txt .pif (in readme.zip) The file is deleted. --------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- For further details see the attachment. ++++ Attachment: No Virus found ++++ F-Secure AntiVirus - www.f-secure.com -------------- next part -------------- ------------------ Virus Warning Message (on uusnwa0n) readme.zip is removed from here because it contains a virus. --------------------------------------------------------- From lchmiel at ippt.gov.pl Tue Oct 19 09:39:02 2004 From: lchmiel at ippt.gov.pl (Leszek Chmielewski) Date: Tue Oct 19 09:39:21 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: Trapping Spam messages that contain images... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > It has been a long time since I've done any OCR - is it really fast and > accurate enough to be useful in situations like this? Dear All, It happens that I work in image processing (although not partilcularly in OCR) and I am very skeptical about the OCR approach. A real solution would be to extract the text from the image and put it to the standard SpamBayes classifier. There are two problems: 1. Text extraction is a problem in itself, a bit more difficult than the present SpamBayes functionality. 2. There might be little text in the image or it might be made unreadable to OCR processors very easily (blurring of any kind). 3. It is better not to download the images at all, not to disclose your IP to spammers. On the other hand: imagine, who is willing to send you a message encrypted as an image, wihout a single word of explanation? I am not. Classification should be straightforward, then. I am a new user of the Outlook plugin version and I am impressed with the functionality and performance of the software. Best regards and _congratulations_ to the SpamBayes team! Leszek From sofie.versweyveld at natuurpunt.be Tue Oct 19 09:37:15 2004 From: sofie.versweyveld at natuurpunt.be (Sofie Versweyveld) Date: Tue Oct 19 09:55:18 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Out of Office AutoReply: Shocking document Message-ID: <7F2EF3807D23EB46B8F234F6069C8C1B731087@gandalf.natuurpunt.be> Beste, Ik ben afwezig tot en met 1 november. Voor dringende zaken kan je steeds terecht bij Luk Dani?ls, 015-29 72 33, 0476-55 33 31, luk.daniels@natuurpunt.be Sofie From sanders at charlottecountyfl.com Tue Oct 19 21:50:47 2004 From: sanders at charlottecountyfl.com (sanders@charlottecountyfl.com) Date: Tue Oct 19 21:50:50 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] installing new version of Outlook PI Message-ID: <200410191950.MAA07258@charlottecountyfl.com> I was just getting ready to install spambayes-1.0.exe version of SpamBayes for MS Outlook. Just wondered if I need to uninstall the existing one first, or if I can install over it. From Amir_Katz at bmc.com Tue Oct 19 23:07:01 2004 From: Amir_Katz at bmc.com (Katz, Amir) Date: Tue Oct 19 23:07:18 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] installing new version of Outlook PI Message-ID: Just install over it Amir -----Original Message----- From: sanders@charlottecountyfl.com [mailto:sanders@charlottecountyfl.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 21:51 To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] installing new version of Outlook PI I was just getting ready to install spambayes-1.0.exe version of SpamBayes for MS Outlook. Just wondered if I need to uninstall the existing one first, or if I can install over it. _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Oct 20 01:39:32 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Oct 20 01:39:42 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: Trapping Spam messages that contain images... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > On the other hand: imagine, who is willing to send you a > message encrypted as an image, wihout a single word of > explanation? I am not. Classification should be straightforward, then. I agree with your comments about the practicaliality of using OCR for this, but I don't agree with this. I get mail (and my wife gets much more) that is just a single image, with no explanation. They are reasonably common informal email (though probably not in formal email) - jokes, funny pictures, personal snapshots, and so on. =Tony Meyer From seetha00 at dacafe.com Tue Oct 19 08:08:58 2004 From: seetha00 at dacafe.com (seetha00@dacafe.com) Date: Wed Oct 20 13:34:32 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Approved document Message-ID: <200410190607.i9J67ci19194@uusnwa0n.utc.com> ------------------ Virus Warning Message (on uusnwa0n) Found virus WORM_NETSKY.P in file data.rtf .scr (in all_doc01.zip) The file is deleted. --------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- Your document is attached. +++ Attachment: No Virus found +++ Panda AntiVirus - www.pandasoftware.com -------------- next part -------------- ------------------ Virus Warning Message (on uusnwa0n) all_doc01.zip is removed from here because it contains a virus. --------------------------------------------------------- From johnt at amileasing.com Wed Oct 20 14:20:13 2004 From: johnt at amileasing.com (Tsombakos, John) Date: Wed Oct 20 14:23:47 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook [still!] freezing every day Message-ID: <98385AF6669BD511B69800508BB34FEE062B1E64@mail.amileasing.com> For what it's worth, my stupid fix for this problem is to turn off Spambayes when I go home, let the junk mail collect, then in the morning turn it back on and have it filter my inbox. Tired of having to restart Outlook every morning. -----Original Message----- From: Tsombakos, John Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 8:09 AM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook [still!] freezing every day Help! I've installed the 1.0 version of Spambayes (Outlook plugin - Outlook 2000, exchange server 5), but it is still freezing up Outlook. It doesn't happen during the day and the junk mail flows in, just overnight. It hung up this time almost right after I left work Friday and I had to restart it this morning. The thing is, my email gets delivered to my Personal Folders, spam and all, but Outlook doesn't respond when I try to bring it to the front. I have to force kill it and restart, then let SpamBayes go through the 300+ messages and pull the junk out. My setup is I have personal folders that my email get delivered to - it first comes to my Mailbox, then Outlook "delivers" the mail to my personal folders. I then have some rules that move the messages to various sub-folders. I've tried different combinations of telling Spambays which folder to scan - the Mailbox/Inbox (which is the Exchange server), the Personal Folders/Inbox, and both. I've played with the background timer settings - turning off, turning on, changing the delay times. But sometime during the night, Spambayes just goes to la-la land, and takes Outlook with it. I have to kill the Outlook task and restart. Is there anything I can do? Are there suggested/recommended delay times to use? It's driving me crazy having to have to restart outlook every day. The Spambayes log does not show any errors - I've included the whole log from when it froze this time. Please, does anyone have any insight, anything I can check!! I really like SB, when it works, it works well. But if I have to restart Outlook every day, I might have to look elsewhere. Thanks again _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Wed Oct 20 14:34:26 2004 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Wed Oct 20 14:34:30 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Many users on domain coming up as "possibly spam" Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5022C331@SPIKE.city> I don't understand why this very simple and well understood problem is so resistant to solution. Since Spambayes is obviously aware of the imbalance (or it couldn't have quoted the numbers in the log), why can't it simply discount each spam token by a factor of 64? (Make it optional so that those of us who don't experience the problem don't have to get involved.) The most straightforward solution would be to start throwing messages away when a certain imbalance is reached, but I accept that this may be impossible because the data from all messages get munged together. But simply restating the obvious (that equal numbers are better) doesn't seem very helpful, because most users have little or no control over the available corpus of messages. Note that training on misclassified messages is hardly a solution, because if Spambayes is configured correctly, almost all misclassified messages will be false negatives. (OK, that's not true for this user, but he's an exception. Most people reporting an imbalance problem have too many spams.) Bob -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of Kenny Pitt Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 4:02 PM To: 'Mark Vovchuk'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Many users on domain coming up as "possibly spam" Your problem almost certainly lies here: # ham trained on: 23319 # spam trained on: 370 Based on the imbalance in the number of messages that you have trained, a single spam token will have approximately 63 times as much influence on the overall score as a single ham token. For best results, you should train on roughly equal numbers of spam and ham messages. 5x to 10x is probably OK for most people, but 63x is definately pushing the limits. Your best bet is probably to delete your training database and start over from scratch. If you train only by using the toolbar buttons when messages are misclassified instead of by training a bunch of existing messages up front then you'll probably get better results. -- Kenny Pitt _____ From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Mark Vovchuk Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 3:18 PM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Many users on domain coming up as "possibly spam" Including myself. Many people in my organization are coming up as either spam or maybe spam. I have been trying out spambayes as a way to get off of another product and this is the last hurdle that I cannot overcome. I have them keep moving each other, and myself, out using the "recover" button but to no avail. this is one of the clues messages that someone had on an email I sent: Combined Score: 69% (0.686078) Internal ham score (*H*): 0.229281 Internal spam score (*S*): 0.601437 # ham trained on: 23319 # spam trained on: 370 17 Significant Tokens token spamprob #ham #spam 'subject:odd' 0.155172 1 0 'url:105957' 0.155172 1 0 'url:indymedia' 0.155172 1 0 'url:sandiego' 0.155172 1 0 'from:none' 0.3267 1559 12 'to:addr:rob' 0.334402 753 6 'message-id:invalid' 0.37662 1565 15 'reply-to:none' 0.397052 22874 239 'header:To:1' 0.608344 14607 360 'url:shtml' 0.694677 55 2 'url:org' 0.709459 619 24 'to:2**0' 0.744606 7133 330 'to:no real name:2**0' 0.804451 3722 243 'proto:http' 0.825724 3963 298 'url:10' 0.850336 21 2 'url:2004' 0.858892 9 1 'url:en' 0.963873 2 5 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041020/818579be/attachment.html From sanders at charlottecountyfl.com Wed Oct 20 15:48:30 2004 From: sanders at charlottecountyfl.com (sanders@charlottecountyfl.com) Date: Wed Oct 20 15:48:47 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] installing new version of Outlook PI In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200410201348.GAA15078@charlottecountyfl.com> Cool, install went well and Outlook restarted without any problems. It did prompt me to run the config wizard so I did to specify the junk/suspect folders. Now another question... is all the 'training' I did with the previous version still being used? Or am I starting from scratch again? If I am starting over, is there a way to have the new version import the old stuff? Quoting "Katz, Amir" : > Just install over it > > > Amir > > -----Original Message----- > From: sanders@charlottecountyfl.com [mailto:sanders@charlottecountyfl.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 21:51 > To: spambayes@python.org > Subject: [Spambayes] installing new version of Outlook PI > > I was just getting ready to install spambayes-1.0.exe version of SpamBayes > for MS Outlook. > > Just wondered if I need to uninstall the existing one first, or if I can > install over it. > _______________________________________________ > Spambayes@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > From bestinfo1 at bol.net.in Wed Oct 20 07:00:16 2004 From: bestinfo1 at bol.net.in (bestinfo1@bol.net.in) Date: Wed Oct 20 17:33:18 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Hello Message-ID: <200410200458.i9K4wth13685@uusnwa0n.utc.com> ------------------ Virus Warning Message (on uusnwa0n) Found virus WORM_NETSKY.P in file document.txt .exe (in summary2004.zip) The file is deleted. --------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- Please confirm! +++ Attachment: No Virus found +++ Bitdefender AntiVirus - www.bitdefender.com -------------- next part -------------- ------------------ Virus Warning Message (on uusnwa0n) summary2004.zip is removed from here because it contains a virus. --------------------------------------------------------- From Amir_Katz at bmc.com Wed Oct 20 18:21:02 2004 From: Amir_Katz at bmc.com (Katz, Amir) Date: Wed Oct 20 18:21:11 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] installing new version of Outlook PI Message-ID: Not to worry - the data is not destroyed when you upgrade Amir -----Original Message----- From: sanders@charlottecountyfl.com [mailto:sanders@charlottecountyfl.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 15:49 To: Katz, Amir Cc: sanders@charlottecountyfl.com; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] installing new version of Outlook PI Cool, install went well and Outlook restarted without any problems. It did prompt me to run the config wizard so I did to specify the junk/suspect folders. Now another question... is all the 'training' I did with the previous version still being used? Or am I starting from scratch again? If I am starting over, is there a way to have the new version import the old stuff? Quoting "Katz, Amir" : > Just install over it > > > Amir > > -----Original Message----- > From: sanders@charlottecountyfl.com [mailto:sanders@charlottecountyfl.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 21:51 > To: spambayes@python.org > Subject: [Spambayes] installing new version of Outlook PI > > I was just getting ready to install spambayes-1.0.exe version of SpamBayes > for MS Outlook. > > Just wondered if I need to uninstall the existing one first, or if I can > install over it. > _______________________________________________ > Spambayes@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > From kennypitt at hotmail.com Wed Oct 20 20:38:24 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Wed Oct 20 20:39:45 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Many users on domain coming up as "possibly spam" In-Reply-To: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5022C331@SPIKE.city> Message-ID: This has already been tried. It was called the "experimental_ham_spam_imbalance_adjustment" option, and it did exactly what you suggest. It computed the imbalance ratio and used that ratio to adjust the weights of the scores. Unfortunately, it proved to be such a miserable failure that it was removed from the source. It initially seemed like a logical approach, but there is apparently something inherent in the mathematics that defies normal logic. -- Kenny Pitt _____ From: Coe, Bob [mailto:rcoe@CambridgeMA.GOV] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 8:34 AM To: Kenny Pitt Cc: spambayes@Python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Many users on domain coming up as "possibly spam" I don't understand why this very simple and well understood problem is so resistant to solution. Since Spambayes is obviously aware of the imbalance (or it couldn't have quoted the numbers in the log), why can't it simply discount each spam token by a factor of 64? (Make it optional so that those of us who don't experience the problem don't have to get involved.) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041020/7d260386/attachment.htm From ve8jl at laferla.ca Wed Oct 20 21:41:40 2004 From: ve8jl at laferla.ca (Joseph LaFerla) Date: Wed Oct 20 21:39:20 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Windows reinistall Message-ID: <000e01c4b6dc$d2615130$432294cf@barracuda> Hi I have to reinstall WinXP Professional and have been using Spambayes for many months now. Since reinalling will wipe out all files on my hard drive, is there a way of saving a configuration file so that all the training that SpamBayes has learnt does not go to waste. Otherwise I will have to train Spambayes again from scratch. Thanks. Joseph LaFerla From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Oct 20 22:19:06 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Oct 20 22:19:14 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] installing new version of Outlook PI In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Cool, install went well and Outlook restarted without > any problems. It did prompt me to run the config wizard > so I did to specify the junk/suspect folders. This should *not* have happened. Did you manually delete any SpamBayes files? Did you install as a different (Windows) user? The un/re-install process doesn't touch any of the files in the data directory, which is where the configuration is. The config wizard should only be necessary if those files aren't there. The path includes the (Windows) username, so they wouldn't be in the right place if that changed, but I can't think of any other reason why they'd be missing. The one other thing I can think of is that you actually got a message indicating that your configuration wasn't good, and so you should fix it or run the config wizard. In this case, I presume you changed your email store (the pst file, for example) at the same time? =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Oct 20 22:20:00 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Oct 20 22:20:17 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Windows reinistall In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I have to reinstall WinXP Professional and have been using > Spambayes for many months now. Since reinalling will wipe > out all files on my hard drive, is there a way of saving a > configuration file so that all the training that SpamBayes > has learnt does not go to waste. Otherwise I will have to > train Spambayes again from scratch. Please see FAQ 3.8: =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Oct 20 22:33:24 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Oct 20 22:33:31 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Many users on domain coming up as "possibly spam" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [Bob Coe] >> I don't understand why this very simple and well >> understood problem is so resistant to solution. [Kenny Pitt] > It was called the "experimental_ham_spam_imbalance_adjustment" > option [...] I believe that the reason that it is 'resistant' is because there isn't so much testing done with SpamBayes anymore. Developing a new adjustment solution is certainly possible, but as well as the time needed to understand & figure out the maths, it needs lots of people running tests (i.e. timcv.py) and posting their results to be good enough to get into the source. Unfortunately, there aren't many people running the tests anymore, and no-one is really looking at the math. I think another factor is that AFAIK SpamBayes works well as is for the developers, so there isn't really an incentive to work on this, even among those that might try to work on the math (or look at other filters, to borrow ideas). The third factor, and the most telling for me personally, is that it appears that the training regime has a huge effect on the accuracy, and so some sort of balancing factor can be built into the training regime. "Train to exhaustion" (tte) is one such regime (and is used, quite successfully I believe, by Skip), but there could be others. Initial testing indicates that although 'training on mistakes' (or fpfnunsure) is good, and better than 'train on everything', it can be beaten by other methods. Testing these is very time-consuming, though. I've tried several auto-balancing methods, running them through the incremental.py testing script, and haven't found any (other than tte) that are successful. All of this is before the changes make it into CVS, let alone the Outlook plug-in (which is really designed for mistake based training), or a release - and for quite a while the focus was getting a 1.0 release done, which was bugfixes only, not new features. I'm sure that 1.1a1 will have something to try and address this problem (as an experimental option, probably). What I'm personally working on is a way to have sb_server/the Outlook plug-in work with different training regimes, particularly tte, as I think that offers the most help. Anyway, that's my take on why the 'resistance'. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From joshua at waetech.com Wed Oct 20 22:33:55 2004 From: joshua at waetech.com (Joshua Olson) Date: Wed Oct 20 22:34:04 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Compiling sb_filter on Win32 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20041020203403.804BD1E4002@bag.python.org> Anybody had any luck compiling sb_filter.py into an exe on Win32? I keep seeing these error messages about certain modules not being found. Specifically, my setup.py looks like this: # setup.py from distutils.core import setup import py2exe setup(console=["sb_filter.py"]) My command line is this: c:\python23\python.exe setup.py py2exe The output looks like this: running py2exe *** searching for required modules *** *** parsing results *** creating python loader for extension 'datetime' creating python loader for extension 'zlib' creating python loader for extension '_winreg' creating python loader for extension 'win32api' creating python loader for extension '_sre' creating python loader for extension '_socket' creating python loader for extension '_bsddb' creating python loader for extension '_ssl' *** finding dlls needed *** *** create binaries *** *** byte compile python files *** skipping byte-compilation of C:\Python23\lib\site-packages\pythoncom.py to pythoncom.pyc skipping byte-compilation of C:\Python23\lib\site-packages\spambayes\Corpus.py to spambayes\Corpus.pyc skipping byte-compilation of C:\Python23\lib\site-packages\spambayes\FileCorpus.py to spambayes\FileCorpus.pyc skipping byte-compilation of C:\Python23\lib\site-packages\spambayes\Histogram.py to spambayes\Histogram.pyc skipping byte-compilation of C:\Python23\lib\site-packages\spambayes\Options.py to spambayes\Options.pyc skipping byte-compilation of C:\Python23\lib\site-packages\spambayes\OptionsClass.py to spambayes\OptionsClass.pyc skipping byte-compilation of C:\Python23\lib\site-packages\spambayes\Version.py to spambayes\Version.pyc skipping byte-compilation of C:\Python23\lib\site-packages\spambayes\__init__.py to spambayes\__init__.pyc skipping byte-compilation of C:\Python23\lib\site-packages\spambayes\chi2.py to spambayes\chi2.pyc skipping byte-compilation of C:\Python23\lib\site-packages\spambayes\classifier.py to spambayes\classifier.pyc skipping byte-compilation of C:\Python23\lib\site-packages\spambayes\compatsets.py to spambayes\compatsets.pyc skipping byte-compilation of 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of c:\python23\lib\types.py to types.pyc skipping byte-compilation of c:\python23\lib\unittest.py to unittest.pyc skipping byte-compilation of c:\python23\lib\urllib.py to urllib.pyc skipping byte-compilation of c:\python23\lib\urllib2.py to urllib2.pyc skipping byte-compilation of c:\python23\lib\urlparse.py to urlparse.pyc skipping byte-compilation of c:\python23\lib\uu.py to uu.pyc skipping byte-compilation of c:\python23\lib\warnings.py to warnings.pyc skipping byte-compilation of c:\python23\lib\whichdb.py to whichdb.pyc *** copy extensions *** *** copy dlls *** setting sys.winver for 'C:\sb\scripts\dist\python23.dll' to 'py2exe' copying C:\Python23\lib\site-packages\py2exe\run.exe -> C:\sb\scripts\dist\sb_filter.exe The following modules appear to be missing ['MySQLdb', 'bsddb3', 'gdbm', 'psycopg', 'win32com.shell'] I'm at a loss, naturally. Ideas? Is this even a good idea? Thanks, <><><><><><><><><><> Joshua Olson Web Application Engineer WAE Tech Inc. http://www.waetech.com/service_areas/ 706.210.0168 From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Oct 20 23:05:35 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Oct 20 23:05:46 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Compiling sb_filter on Win32 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Anybody had any luck compiling sb_filter.py into an exe on > Win32? I keep seeing these error messages about certain > modules not being found. These don't necessarily matter, depending on what you're doing. You can set py2exe to ignore them, if you like. Have you tested the resulting .exe? Does it work? If not, what happens? > The following modules > appear to be missing ['MySQLdb', 'bsddb3', 'gdbm', 'psycopg', > 'win32com.shell'] You only need MySQLdb if you want the sb_filter.exe to be able to use MySQl as a storage option. If you do, then you need to install MySQLdb and py2exe will find it. If you don't, then this error is harmless. You don't need bsddb3 since you're compiling with Python 2.3. py2exe's modulefinder isn't clever enough to understand that it only gets loaded with earlier versions of Python. This error is harmless, and you can ignore it, or set py2exe to ignore it. AFAIK gdbm isn't used on Windows. IAC, it's just another storage option like MySQLdb, so unless you're planning on explicitly using it, again it's harmless. pyscopg is for using Postgre SQL I think (but am not 100%). If I'm right, then that's just like MySQL, above. I don't know what is asking for win32com.shell, but I suspect that it's for the Options, as, on Windows, the Options code looks for the bayescustomize.ini file in the Windows Application Data directory, which it needs pywin32 to find. If you don't have this, I'm pretty sure the code falls back to the non-Windows behaviour, so again harmless, or you can install pywin32 and that should let py2exe find it. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Oct 20 23:08:45 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Oct 20 23:10:29 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Compiling sb_filter on Win32 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: (Forgot to answer this bit) > Is this even a good idea? It depends what you want. Note that py2exe doesn't *compile* the scripts, it just bundles them along with the Python interpreter into an .exe. You won't notice any increase in speed (check out psyco for that) from doing so. What you do get is a packaged script, so it's relatively easy to use it on any machine (in particular, you don't need to install Python). (If the machine already has Python, then you'd save space by just having the script & required modules). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From mjw at sciperio.com Wed Oct 20 23:12:07 2004 From: mjw at sciperio.com (Mike J Wilhelm) Date: Wed Oct 20 23:12:13 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] deletes everything Message-ID: <000501c4b6e9$74e90540$8001a8c0@MIKEW> Hello, Our system administrator recently installed SpamBayes and it deletes everything. I also can't find any way of turning it off and our administrator is out of the office for a while. How can I shut it down? Thanks, Mike ***************************************************** Mike Wilhelm Sciperio Inc. 5202-2 N Richmond Hill Road Stillwater OK 74075 405 624-5751 v 405 624-5769 fax mjw@sciperio.com ***************************************************** From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Oct 20 23:19:47 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Oct 20 23:20:48 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] deletes everything In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [These answers assume you are using the Outlook plug-in. If you are not, then they will be quite wrong, and please ask your question again with more specifics about which SpamBayes script you are using, which version, which email client, and which operating system (and version).] > Our system administrator recently installed SpamBayes and it > deletes everything. FAQ 3.12 might help: > I also can't find any way of turning it > off and our administrator is out of the office for a while. > How can I shut it down? Open up the SpamBayes Manager dialog and untick the "Enable SpamBayes" box. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tpaes at sbcglobal.net Thu Oct 21 02:08:01 2004 From: tpaes at sbcglobal.net (Tim Paes) Date: Thu Oct 21 02:11:20 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with install Message-ID: <20041021000813.DD1F61E4002@bag.python.org> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 91300 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041020/c576e284/attachment-0001.jpe From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Oct 21 02:19:04 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Oct 21 02:19:20 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with install In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I install the spambayes program and get no indication > that it even exists in Outlook. Did you install it running as the same (Windows) user as you are using Outlook with? Please send us a copy of the log files (these are in the temp directory, probably C:\Documents and Settings\{username}\Local Settings\, and are called SpambayesX.log, where X is 1->5), as these will tell us more about what has happened. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Oct 21 05:26:35 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Oct 21 05:26:47 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with install In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Yes I did install as the same user. I tried installing five > times thinking it was something I was doing wrong. Each time > the result was the same. Here are the log files, there was only one. * Check that Outlook shows the addin as enabled. 1. Start Outlook, and select Tools->Options to display the main Options dialog. 2. Select the tab labelled Other, then click on the Advanced button. 3. Click on the COM Add-Ins button. 4. If the SpamBayes addin is not listed, then SpamBayes should be reinstalled 5. If the SpamBayes addin is listed but not checked, then check it and close the dialog. * You may find that if you go back to the dialog, the addin will still be unselected. In this case, perform the following: 1. Go to Help->About Microsoft Outlook. 2. Click the Disabled Items button. 3. Select SpamBayes. 4. Click Enable. 5. Restart Outlook. If it's not listed at all, then something very odd is happening, since the log file indicated that it was registered... =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From mts at emirates.net.ae Thu Oct 21 07:22:03 2004 From: mts at emirates.net.ae (mts@emirates.net.ae) Date: Thu Oct 21 07:20:50 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Error in document Message-ID: <200410210520.i9L5Kf822842@uusnwa0n.utc.com> ------------------ Virus Warning Message (on uusnwa0n) Found virus WORM_NETSKY.P in file document.txt .exe (in document.zip) The file is deleted. --------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- Your important document, correction is finished! -------------- next part -------------- ------------------ Virus Warning Message (on uusnwa0n) document.zip is removed from here because it contains a virus. --------------------------------------------------------- From choye at snet.net Thu Oct 21 12:40:03 2004 From: choye at snet.net (C Hoye) Date: Thu Oct 21 12:40:27 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Cant get SpamBayes to start at startup Message-ID: <000901c4b75a$54f24640$0b01a8c0@jhoye600x> I cant get SpamBayes to startup automatically at startup help...I'm using XP Pro...and Outlook express 6...how can I get it to load at startup? Regards, John Hoye jhoye@snet.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041021/40183699/attachment.html From sanders at mail.charlottecountyfl.com Thu Oct 21 14:59:51 2004 From: sanders at mail.charlottecountyfl.com (SueAnnSanders) Date: Thu Oct 21 15:00:01 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] installing new version of Outlook PI In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200410211259.FAA11979@charlottecountyfl.com> > This should *not* have happened. Did you manually delete any SpamBayes > files? Did you install as a different (Windows) user? notta to both > The one other thing I can think of is that you actually got a message > indicating that your configuration wasn't good, and so you should fix it or > run the config wizard. In this case, I presume you changed your email > store > (the pst file, for example) at the same time? Not sure on the message I got originally when upgrading. If 'changing my email store' is something I manually have to do, then no, I didn't do that either. so..... sounds like the install didn't go as smoothly as I thought. I have a backup of my SpamBayes stuff default_bayes_customize.ini default_bayes_database.db default_message_database.db Outlook.ini from the previous version, can I copy these files to the proper location? C:\Documents and Settings\Sanderss\Application Data\SpamBayes If so, which files? Just the default_bayes_database.db file? That's the one that's kinda big 664KB From sanders at charlottecountyfl.com Thu Oct 21 15:03:03 2004 From: sanders at charlottecountyfl.com (sanders@charlottecountyfl.com) Date: Thu Oct 21 15:03:06 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] installing new version of Outlook PI In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200410211303.GAA12269@charlottecountyfl.com> > This should *not* have happened. Did you manually delete any SpamBayes > files? Did you install as a different (Windows) user? notta to both > The one other thing I can think of is that you actually got a message > indicating that your configuration wasn't good, and so you should fix it or > run the config wizard. In this case, I presume you changed your email > store > (the pst file, for example) at the same time? Not sure on the message I got originally when upgrading. If 'changing my email store' is something I manually have to do, then no, I didn't do that either. so..... sounds like the install didn't go as smoothly as I thought. I have a backup of my SpamBayes stuff default_bayes_customize.ini default_bayes_database.db default_message_database.db Outlook.ini from the previous version, can I copy these files to the proper location? C:\Documents and Settings\Sanderss\Application Data\SpamBayes If so, which files? Just the default_bayes_database.db file? That's the one that's kinda big 664KB From johnt at amileasing.com Thu Oct 21 15:09:08 2004 From: johnt at amileasing.com (Tsombakos, John) Date: Thu Oct 21 15:13:29 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Error when Filtering Message-ID: <98385AF6669BD511B69800508BB34FEE064BE13B@mail.amileasing.com> I don't know if this is related to my Outlook freezing problem. I've since changed my routine to turn off Spambayes before I go home, so it's not filtering and it has stopped Outlook from locking up during the night. I then turn it back on, and have it filter my inbox (I click on the Spambayes menu bar, and do "Filter Now...". This morning when I did that, partway through Spambayes threw up and error. I didn't get the exact error from the dialog, but in my log file was below. Has anyone seen this problem? I don't know if it's the root cause of my nightly lockup (even though there isn't any error message when it locks up). Thanks. New message timer started - id=2534, delay=500 Moved message 'My campaigns are performing unbelievably Rolando!' to folder 'Mailbox - Tsombakos, John/New Spam' Error filtering message '' Traceback (most recent call last): The timer with id=2534 fired File "filter.pyc", line 128, in filter_folder File "filter.pyc", line 14, in filter_message File "manager.pyc", line 800, in score File "msgstore.pyc", line 1008, in GetEmailPackageObject File "msgstore.pyc", line 850, in _GetMessageText File "msgstore.pyc", line 862, in _GetMessageTextParts File "msgstore.pyc", line 975, in _EnsureObject C:\Program Files\SpamBayes\lib\spambayes.zip\msgstore.py:126: FutureWarning: %u/%o/%x/%X of negative int will return a signed string in Python 2.4 and up NotFoundException: NotFoundException: Exception 0x8004010f (MAPI_E_NOT_FOUND): OLE error 0x8004010f Error filtering message '' Traceback (most recent call last): File "filter.pyc", line 128, in filter_folder File "filter.pyc", line 14, in filter_message File "manager.pyc", line 800, in score File "msgstore.pyc", line 1008, in GetEmailPackageObject File "msgstore.pyc", line 850, in _GetMessageText File "msgstore.pyc", line 862, in _GetMessageTextParts File "msgstore.pyc", line 975, in _EnsureObject NotFoundException: NotFoundException: Exception 0x8004010f (MAPI_E_NOT_FOUND): OLE error 0x8004010f Error filtering message '' Traceback (most recent call last): File "filter.pyc", line 128, in filter_folder File "filter.pyc", line 14, in filter_message File "manager.pyc", line 800, in score File "msgstore.pyc", line 1008, in GetEmailPackageObject File "msgstore.pyc", line 850, in _GetMessageText File "msgstore.pyc", line 862, in _GetMessageTextParts File "msgstore.pyc", line 975, in _EnsureObject NotFoundException: NotFoundException: Exception 0x8004010f (MAPI_E_NOT_FOUND): OLE error 0x8004010f Error filtering message '' Traceback (most recent call last): File "filter.pyc", line 128, in filter_folder File "filter.pyc", line 14, in filter_message File "manager.pyc", line 800, in score File "msgstore.pyc", line 1008, in GetEmailPackageObject File "msgstore.pyc", line 850, in _GetMessageText File "msgstore.pyc", line 862, in _GetMessageTextParts File "msgstore.pyc", line 975, in _EnsureObject NotFoundException: NotFoundException: Exception 0x8004010f (MAPI_E_NOT_FOUND): OLE error 0x8004010f Moved message 'Wow $475,832 is waiting for you' to folder 'Mailbox - Tsombakos, John/New Spam' Message 'Wow $475,832 is waiting for you' in 'Personal Folders/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' New message timer started - id=2533, delay=500 The timer with id=2533 fired Moved message 'Apple iPod Giveaway - We Need Feedback' to folder 'Mailbox - Tsombakos, John/New Spam' Message 'Apple iPod Giveaway - We Need Feedback' in 'Personal Folders/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' New message timer started - id=2532, delay=500 Moved message 'Dump the Windows Firewall [Newsletter Comp Version]' to folder 'Personal Folders/Spam-Possible' Error filtering message '' Traceback (most recent call last): File "filter.pyc", line 128, in filter_folder File "filter.pyc", line 14, in filter_message File "manager.pyc", line 800, in score File "msgstore.pyc", line 1008, in GetEmailPackageObject File "msgstore.pyc", line 850, in _GetMessageText File "msgstore.pyc", line 862, in _GetMessageTextParts File "msgstore.pyc", line 975, in _EnsureObject NotFoundException: NotFoundException: Exception 0x8004010f (MAPI_E_NOT_FOUND): OLE error 0x8004010f Error filtering message '' Traceback (most recent call last): File "filter.pyc", line 128, in filter_folder File "filter.pyc", line 14, in filter_message File "manager.pyc", line 800, in score File "msgstore.pyc", line 1008, in GetEmailPackageObject File "msgstore.pyc", line 850, in _GetMessageText File "msgstore.pyc", line 862, in _GetMessageTextParts File "msgstore.pyc", line 975, in _EnsureObject NotFoundException: NotFoundException: Exception 0x8004010f (MAPI_E_NOT_FOUND): OLE error 0x8004010f Error filtering message '' Traceback (most recent call last): File "filter.pyc", line 128, in filter_folder File "filter.pyc", line 14, in filter_message File "manager.pyc", line 800, in score File "msgstore.pyc", line 1008, in GetEmailPackageObject File "msgstore.pyc", line 850, in _GetMessageText File "msgstore.pyc", line 862, in _GetMessageTextParts File "msgstore.pyc", line 975, in _EnsureObject NotFoundException: NotFoundException: Exception 0x8004010f (MAPI_E_NOT_FOUND): OLE error 0x8004010f Error filtering message '' Traceback (most recent call last): File "filter.pyc", line 128, in filter_folder File "filter.pyc", line 14, in filter_message File "manager.pyc", line 800, in score File "msgstore.pyc", line 1008, in GetEmailPackageObject File "msgstore.pyc", line 850, in _GetMessageText File "msgstore.pyc", line 862, in _GetMessageTextParts File "msgstore.pyc", line 975, in _EnsureObject NotFoundException: NotFoundException: Exception 0x8004010f (MAPI_E_NOT_FOUND): OLE error 0x8004010f Error filtering message '' Traceback (most recent call last): File "filter.pyc", line 128, in filter_folder File "filter.pyc", line 14, in filter_message File "manager.pyc", line 800, in score File "msgstore.pyc", line 1008, in GetEmailPackageObject File "msgstore.pyc", line 850, in _GetMessageText File "msgstore.pyc", line 862, in _GetMessageTextParts File "msgstore.pyc", line 975, in _EnsureObject NotFoundException: NotFoundException: Exception 0x8004010f (MAPI_E_NOT_FOUND): OLE error 0x8004010f Error filtering message '' Traceback (most recent call last): File "filter.pyc", line 128, in filter_folder File "filter.pyc", line 14, in filter_message File "manager.pyc", line 800, in score File "msgstore.pyc", line 1008, in GetEmailPackageObject File "msgstore.pyc", line 850, in _GetMessageText File "msgstore.pyc", line 862, in _GetMessageTextParts File "msgstore.pyc", line 975, in _EnsureObject NotFoundException: NotFoundException: Exception 0x8004010f (MAPI_E_NOT_FOUND): OLE error 0x8004010f Error filtering message '' Traceback (most recent call last): File "filter.pyc", line 128, in filter_folder File "filter.pyc", line 14, in filter_message File "manager.pyc", line 800, in score File "msgstore.pyc", line 1008, in GetEmailPackageObject File "msgstore.pyc", line 850, in _GetMessageText File "msgstore.pyc", line 862, in _GetMessageTextParts File "msgstore.pyc", line 975, in _EnsureObject NotFoundException: NotFoundException: Exception 0x8004010f (MAPI_E_NOT_FOUND): OLE error 0x8004010f Moved message 'FWD:"..send me an angel from the heaven's.." james' to folder 'Mailbox - Tsombakos, John/New Spam' Moved message '' to folder 'Mailbox - Tsombakos, John/New Spam' The timer with id=2532 fired The new message is skipping a message that moved underneath us The new message is skipping a message that moved underneath us Got ObjectChanged changed - trying again... ERROR: 'Moving a message failed due to an unexpected Outlook error.\r\nException 0x8004010f (MAPI_E_NOT_FOUND): OLE error 0x8004010f\r\n\r\nIt is recommended you restart Outlook at the earliest opportunity\r\n\r\nThis message will not be reported again until SpamBayes\r\nis restarted.' Traceback (most recent call last): File "msgstore.pyc", line 1189, in MoveToReportingError File "msgstore.pyc", line 1176, in MoveTo File "msgstore.pyc", line 1173, in _DoCopyMove NotFoundException: NotFoundException: Exception 0x8004010f (MAPI_E_NOT_FOUND): OLE error 0x8004010f ERROR: 'Moving a message failed due to an unexpected Outlook error.\r\nException 0x8004010f (MAPI_E_NOT_FOUND): OLE error 0x8004010f\r\n\r\nIt is recommended you restart Outlook at the earliest opportunity\r\n\r\nThis message will not be reported again until SpamBayes\r\nis restarted.' Traceback (most recent call last): File "msgstore.pyc", line 1189, in MoveToReportingError File "msgstore.pyc", line 1176, in MoveTo File "msgstore.pyc", line 1173, in _DoCopyMove NotFoundException: NotFoundException: Exception 0x8004010f (MAPI_E_NOT_FOUND): OLE error 0x8004010f Moved message 'Italian Crafted Rolex from $75 to $275 - Free Shipping' to folder 'Mailbox - Tsombakos, John/New Spam' Message 'Italian Crafted Rolex from $75 to $275 - Free Shipping' in 'Personal Folders/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' New message timer started - id=2528, delay=500 Moved message 'Italian Crafted Rolex from $75 to $275 - Free Shipping' to folder 'Mailbox - Tsombakos, John/New Spam' The timer with id=2528 fired Moved message 'designer replicas' to folder 'Mailbox - Tsombakos, John/New Spam' Message 'designer replicas' in 'Personal Folders/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' New message timer started - id=2527, delay=500 Moved message 'Cursos gratuitos para Pymes - Seleccion de representantes locales. BQXVFVCQPX' to folder 'Mailbox - Tsombakos, John/New Spam' Error filtering message '' Traceback (most recent call last): File "filter.pyc", line 128, in filter_folder File "filter.pyc", line 14, in filter_message File "manager.pyc", line 800, in score File "msgstore.pyc", line 1008, in GetEmailPackageObject File "msgstore.pyc", line 850, in _GetMessageText File "msgstore.pyc", line 862, in _GetMessageTextParts File "msgstore.pyc", line 975, in _EnsureObject NotFoundException: NotFoundException: Exception 0x8004010f (MAPI_E_NOT_FOUND): OLE error 0x8004010f Moved message 'Scientific nutrition you actually see working every day' to folder 'Mailbox - Tsombakos, John/New Spam' Moved message 'Re [23]:' to folder 'Mailbox - Tsombakos, John/New Spam' The timer with id=2527 fired The new message is skipping a message that moved underneath us The new message is skipping a message that moved underneath us Moved message 'Reply: Old Aged MILF Vide0s' to folder 'Mailbox - Tsombakos, John/New Spam' Moved message 'can Murray come over and watch?' to folder 'Mailbox - Tsombakos, John/New Spam' Message 'can Murray come over and watch?' in 'Personal Folders/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' New message timer started - id=2526, delay=500 Error filtering message '' Traceback (most recent call last): File "filter.pyc", line 128, in filter_folder File "filter.pyc", line 14, in filter_message File "manager.pyc", line 800, in score File "msgstore.pyc", line 1008, in GetEmailPackageObject File "msgstore.pyc", line 850, in _GetMessageText File "msgstore.pyc", line 862, in _GetMessageTextParts File "msgstore.pyc", line 975, in _EnsureObject NotFoundException: NotFoundException: Exception 0x8004010f (MAPI_E_NOT_FOUND): OLE error 0x8004010f The timer with id=2526 fired The new message timer found no new items, so is stopping Saving configuration -> C:\Documents and Settings\johnt.AMIHQ1\Application Data\SpamBayes\Microsoft Outlook.ini SpamBayes - Disconnecting from Outlook Bayes database is not dirty - not writing SpamBayes has processed 840 messages - 280 (33%) good, 543 (65%) spam and 17 (2%) unsure 1 message(s) were manually classified as good (with 0 being false positives) 16 message(s) were manually classified as spam (with 2 being false negatives) Addin terminating: 2 COM client and 2 COM servers exist. From Steve.Jackson at sencore.com Thu Oct 21 17:05:09 2004 From: Steve.Jackson at sencore.com (Jackson, Steve) Date: Thu Oct 21 17:23:19 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] issue with program Message-ID: My Possible Spam filtered emails disappear once they have been opened and closed. Any thoughts? I have loved your program up until this point. From kharper at DIVPKG.com Thu Oct 21 17:37:59 2004 From: kharper at DIVPKG.com (Kurt H. Harper) Date: Thu Oct 21 17:30:44 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem Message-ID: I had to rebuild my computer from the ground up (format and reload everything). Everything except the ability to "train" SpamBayes" has returned. I followed the troubleshooting guide for both "toolbar items appear, but fail to work" and " Addin doesn't load" just in case on the second item. After the remove tool bar and restart windows I am experiencing the same problem. I even reloaded the program and made sure that I am running the most recent version. I am running Outlook XP (2002). Your program did work prior to the rebuild. What can I do to regain this fuctionality. Thanks Kurt Harper Diversified Packaging Corp kharper@divpkg.com Phone: 314-423-4723 X-105 Fax: 314-473-0017 From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Oct 22 02:10:16 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Oct 22 02:10:32 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] installing new version of Outlook PI In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > If 'changing my email store' is something I manually > have to do, then no, I didn't do that either. Weird. I have no idea what would have caused this to happen, then. (By changing your store, I meant using a new "Personal Data File" (pst), or something like that). > I have a backup of my SpamBayes stuff > default_bayes_customize.ini > default_bayes_database.db > default_message_database.db > Outlook.ini > from the previous version, can I copy these files to > the proper location? > C:\Documents and Settings\Sanderss\Application > Data\SpamBayes > > If so, which files? Just the default_bayes_database.db > file? That's the one that's kinda big 664KB The two *.db files. You don't need the default_bayes_customize.ini one, and the Outlook.ini one has your configuration, which you've already set up to be correct. You should be able to just drop the two *.db files in (when Outlook isn't running) replacing the new ones. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Oct 22 02:18:02 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Oct 22 02:18:07 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I had to rebuild my computer from the ground up (format and > reload everything). Everything except the ability to "train" > SpamBayes has returned. I presume that this means that filtering is working, then. This sounds like the database is dead, then. If you retrain from scratch that should fix the problem. If that isn't the case, then please try again (to generate the log entries) and send us a copy of your most recent log file. The troubleshooting guide explains where to find those. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Oct 22 07:35:59 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Oct 22 07:36:10 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Cant get SpamBayes to start at startup In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I cant get SpamBayes to startup automatically at startup The installer should have offered to set this up for you, but testing it, I notice that it doesn't. Worse: it appears that this has never worked properly. I'll get that fixed for the next version, but for the moment, what you need to do is copy the shortcut that got installed in the start menu or on the desktop to the "Startup" items directory. If you're not sure how to do that, then just do this: 1. Open Windows Explorer 2. Open /Documents and Settings/{username}/Start Menu/Programs/Startup 3. Right-click in the window and from the pop-up menu that appears, choose New->Shortcut 4. In the dialog that appears, click "Browse" 5. Navigate to the sb_tray.exe file that was installed. This was probably C:\Program Files\SpamBayes\bin\sb_tray.exe. 6. Click OK. 7. Click Next. 8. Click Finish. That should be all that you need. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Oct 22 07:56:40 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Oct 22 07:56:47 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] issue with program In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > My Possible Spam filtered emails disappear once they have > been opened and closed. This sounds like the Outlook view for that folder is set to only show unread items (this is nothing to do with SpamBayes). Try using the Advanced Find dialog to find one of those messages - I suspect that it'll be right there. If that is the case, then if you right-click in the folder, choose "Customize View", click "Filter", then "More choices", you'll find the appropriate option to turn off. If that isn't the problem, please send us a copy of your most recent log file, as it might have more clues. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Oct 22 08:00:52 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Oct 22 08:00:58 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 refresh issue? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Any news on this issue (clicking delete and outlook not > reflecting this until you click away)? Not as far as I know. I don't think any of the developers experience it*, and it's not at all clear what it causing it, or if it is even SpamBayes rather than Outlook, so that makes it a very difficult one to solve. I'll hopefully have time to look at this more time-consuming Outlook problems next week. If you're lucky, someone will beat me to it over this (long, here) weekend. =Tony Meyer * Well, I've seen it occasionally, but only sporadically, which isn't any use. From premadoshi at hotmail.com Fri Oct 22 16:06:09 2004 From: premadoshi at hotmail.com (adoshi) Date: Fri Oct 22 11:07:03 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] mailing list Message-ID: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041022/f88bfd79/attachment.htm From anders.eriksson at morateknikutveckling.se Fri Oct 22 13:34:19 2004 From: anders.eriksson at morateknikutveckling.se (Anders Eriksson) Date: Fri Oct 22 13:34:25 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Nice tool to use together with SpamBayes References: <703hlaf59oi9$.dlg@morateknikutveckling.se> <20041019042952.GHIZ2425.imf25aec.mail.bellsouth.net@seeker> Message-ID: On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 00:29:13 -0400, DUI-DWI wrote: > Thanks for the info Anders. However, didn't Microsoft resolve all of these > issues with Outlook 2003 SP1? > Well, I'm still using Outlook 2000 so I'm not up with the latest on Outlook 2003. I do however, being a bit paranoid, believe that Outlook is still using IE for displaying HTML and as we all know IE is a disaster waiting to happen... So for paranoids like me that haven't found a better email/PIM than Outlook, PocketKnife Peek is a nice tool! // Anders From Harold.Vandeventer at dpra.com Fri Oct 22 17:45:00 2004 From: Harold.Vandeventer at dpra.com (Harold Vandeventer) Date: Fri Oct 22 17:41:36 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 refresh issue? Message-ID: <710C39AC5BC90648B3CA31DC47D111160AE2AA3D@mhk02.ad.dpra.com> As a follow-up, I installed SB rc2 on my WinXP/SP2/Outlook 2003-Exchange Cached mode PC; I was earlier running rc1. My PC did not experience the problem on rc1, and rc2 works just fine, too. The other PC I've tested with, same config except Outlook is NOT in cached mode continues to present refresh problems MOST of the time. Just moments ago, the Delete as SPAM resulted in a proper screen refresh, and about 30 seconds later a Delete as SPAM did NOT refresh. A successful refresh is rare, however. My conclusion: a phase of the moon issue. . ____________________________________ Harold Vandeventer Network Administrator DPRA Incorporated 200 Research Dr Manhattan, KS 66503 Voice: (785) 539-3565 ext 1026 FAX: (785) 537-0272 -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Tony Meyer Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 1:01 AM To: 'Bryan D. Andrews'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 refresh issue? > Any news on this issue (clicking delete and outlook not > reflecting this until you click away)? Not as far as I know. I don't think any of the developers experience it*, and it's not at all clear what it causing it, or if it is even SpamBayes rather than Outlook, so that makes it a very difficult one to solve. I'll hopefully have time to look at this more time-consuming Outlook problems next week. If you're lucky, someone will beat me to it over this (long, here) weekend. =Tony Meyer * Well, I've seen it occasionally, but only sporadically, which isn't any use. _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From Amir_Katz at bmc.com Fri Oct 22 19:29:45 2004 From: Amir_Katz at bmc.com (Katz, Amir) Date: Fri Oct 22 19:29:54 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Nice tool to use together with SpamBayes Message-ID: I'm using it and it's cool as Anders says. Before, I've been using SpamBayes plug-in function 'show spam clues for current message', but it was a pain, as it would mark the message as read and open an outgoing message which I had to kill. Maybe the SB plug-in should have a button 'invoke Pocketknife Peek' on current message (or a customizable action which can invoke another Outlook command) Amir -----Original Message----- From: Anders Eriksson [mailto:anders.eriksson@morateknikutveckling.se] Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 09:03 To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Nice tool to use together with SpamBayes Hello All SB users! I just want to recommend a tool which I use together with SpamBayes. It's called PocketKnife Peek and makes it possible to view mail without using Outlook's viewer. This means that there is no risk for auto starting virus or other things. It also shows all headers and ... It will work for Outlook 2000 and later. PocketKnife Peek is free for personal use. You'll find it here: http://www.xintercept.com/pkpeek.htm // Anders -- PS! I'm not affiliated with the makers of PocketKnife Peek. I'm just a happy user! _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From rich at meyer5.com Fri Oct 22 19:41:00 2004 From: rich at meyer5.com (Richard Meyer) Date: Fri Oct 22 19:51:58 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Setting up for multiple users Message-ID: <000001c4b85e$4be2d510$6466a8c0@Dell> I have multiple user accounts on my XP computer. I have spambayes on one Outlook, but when my wife logs onto her user account, spambayes does not appear on her outlook. I read through your troubleshooting guide on this, but it wasn't written for a lay user. Can you provide me plain English instructions on how I can set it up for my wife to have spambayes on her outlook? It's not listed as an add-in for her. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041022/3f49bfaa/attachment.html From M.G.Faina at Thomson.com Fri Oct 22 23:58:02 2004 From: M.G.Faina at Thomson.com (Faina, Mihail) Date: Fri Oct 22 23:58:10 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with install Message-ID: I am getting the following message after rebooting: "There was an error initializing the SpamBayes add-in. Please restart Outlook and try again". All bellow have been checked and are OK. This message shows up every time I am restarting Outlook. The SpamBayes buttons are present on the tool bar. Any ideas? -----Original Message----- * Check that Outlook shows the addin as enabled. 1. Start Outlook, and select Tools->Options to display the main Options dialog. 2. Select the tab labelled Other, then click on the Advanced button. 3. Click on the COM Add-Ins button. 4. If the SpamBayes addin is not listed, then SpamBayes should be reinstalled 5. If the SpamBayes addin is listed but not checked, then check it and close the dialog. * You may find that if you go back to the dialog, the addin will still be unselected. In this case, perform the following: 1. Go to Help->About Microsoft Outlook. 2. Click the Disabled Items button. 3. Select SpamBayes. 4. Click Enable. 5. Restart Outlook. If it's not listed at all, then something very odd is happening, since the log file indicated that it was registered... =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From M.G.Faina at Thomson.com Sat Oct 23 00:15:42 2004 From: M.G.Faina at Thomson.com (Faina, Mihail) Date: Sat Oct 23 00:15:50 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with install Message-ID: Outlook 2003, SP1, XP Pro. I installed the 1.0 2 weeks ago and worked just fine until today. -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Faina, Mihail Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 5:58 PM To: Tony Meyer; 'Tim Paes' Cc: spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Problem with install I am getting the following message after rebooting: "There was an error initializing the SpamBayes add-in. Please restart Outlook and try again". All bellow have been checked and are OK. This message shows up every time I am restarting Outlook. The SpamBayes buttons are present on the tool bar. Any ideas? -----Original Message----- * Check that Outlook shows the addin as enabled. 1. Start Outlook, and select Tools->Options to display the main Options dialog. 2. Select the tab labelled Other, then click on the Advanced button. 3. Click on the COM Add-Ins button. 4. If the SpamBayes addin is not listed, then SpamBayes should be reinstalled 5. If the SpamBayes addin is listed but not checked, then check it and close the dialog. * You may find that if you go back to the dialog, the addin will still be unselected. In this case, perform the following: 1. Go to Help->About Microsoft Outlook. 2. Click the Disabled Items button. 3. Select SpamBayes. 4. Click Enable. 5. Restart Outlook. If it's not listed at all, then something very odd is happening, since the log file indicated that it was registered... =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From addendaexponentiations at sbcglobal.net Fri Oct 22 20:30:42 2004 From: addendaexponentiations at sbcglobal.net (Karin Bondonno) Date: Sat Oct 23 15:15:42 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SlGN 0N A FRI|END Message-ID: http://V|Iaggar_CO0O00de1ne_Xanalx_Va||um_C|a1lis_.......and___m0O0O0re http://CIaI|is_V1laggar_.......and___m00O0Ore http://C|a|1is_V|Iaggar_C000O0de1ne_.......and___mO000Ore PlEASE CIlCK HERE http://hondgc.com From TJLWBECGSGWU at spammotel.com Sun Oct 24 14:09:00 2004 From: TJLWBECGSGWU at spammotel.com (Mathew Hendry) Date: Sun Oct 24 14:09:10 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 search folders Message-ID: Has anyone looked at using Outlook 2003 Search folders in SpamBayes? Seems like they would be useful in training - for instance, to train on the past month's ham and spam. A quick browse of MSDN suggests it's quite easy to create a search folder through MAPI, but I don't know about accessing existing ones - could they be made to show up in the plugin's folder tree? -- Mat. From jwstenvert at home.nl Sun Oct 24 23:02:38 2004 From: jwstenvert at home.nl (jwstenvert) Date: Sun Oct 24 22:00:46 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] spam Message-ID: <000801c4ba0c$cb3860a0$5c5878d4@CC493032A> hoe ver wijder ik spam,uit mijn msn messenger -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I have been using it for a couple of weeks with no problem (it is quite good). But today the Junk folder disappeared. The 'JunkSuspect' folder is still there and the Spam is going somewhere, but I can't seem to find it. Any suggestions? jkremsky@primeorg.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041025/72da45d6/attachment.htm From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Oct 26 02:29:12 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Oct 26 02:29:23 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > But today the Junk folder disappeared. Please see FAQ 3.13: =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From guru at strudleman.com Tue Oct 26 04:07:58 2004 From: guru at strudleman.com (Sparta) Date: Tue Oct 26 04:08:01 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Message-ID: <000001c4bb00$9f2cbd40$6401a8c0@sparta> I can't seem to find my unsure folder. As far as I know everything installed ok. Any ideas? -Chris -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041025/8ce505a2/attachment.html From InterScan at logsa.army.mil Tue Oct 26 04:00:16 2004 From: InterScan at logsa.army.mil (InterScan@logsa.army.mil) Date: Tue Oct 26 04:15:26 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Gateway Notification (Replaced with text) Message-ID: <20041026021523.6DB0D1E400B@bag.python.org> ************* eManager Notification ************** LOGSA E-Mail Gateway has blocked an attachment. The attachment meets filtering rules that deny specified file extensions. 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As > far as I know everything installed ok. Any ideas? If you didn't manually specify one, then the Configuration Wizard would have created a "Possible Junk" folder at the top level of your main store (e.g. your Exchange account, or your "Personal Folders" (pst) file). You can figure out exactly where it is by opening the SpamBayes Manager (from the SpamBayes button on the SpamBayes toolbar), clicking the Filtering tab, and clicking Browse in the "Possible Spam" section. This will open a tree view of your Outlook folders, with the current folder selected. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From yankle at tht.net Tue Oct 26 04:40:25 2004 From: yankle at tht.net (Yaacov Fredlender) Date: Tue Oct 26 04:41:26 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] uninstall Message-ID: <000001c4bb05$2f087310$6500a8c0@yaacov> HI i cant uninstall spambayes for some reason it wont uninstall please help -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041025/f325ef99/attachment.htm From yankle at tht.net Tue Oct 26 04:41:48 2004 From: yankle at tht.net (Yaacov Fredlender) Date: Tue Oct 26 04:41:58 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] uninstall Message-ID: <000001c4bb05$5b0b14e0$6500a8c0@yaacov> HI i cant uninstall spambayes for some reason it wont uninstall please help -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041025/6510310f/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Oct 26 04:55:47 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Oct 26 04:56:14 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] uninstall In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > i cant uninstall spambayes for some reason it wont uninstall Assuming you're referring to the Outlook plug-in, please see FAQ 3.16: =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Oct 26 08:19:36 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Oct 26 08:19:43 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Setting up for multiple users In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I have multiple user accounts on my XP computer. I have spambayes > on one Outlook, but when my wife logs onto her user account, > spambayes does not appear on her outlook. >From the "Start" menu, choose "Run...". In the dialog box that appears, type "C:\Program Files\SpamBayes\bin\outlook_addin_register.exe" hkey_local_machine (With the quotes). This assumes that when you ran the installer, you accepted the default location of 'C:\Program Files\SpamBayes'. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Oct 26 08:25:21 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Oct 26 08:25:28 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with install In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I am getting the following message after rebooting: > "There was an error initializing the SpamBayes add-in. Please > restart Outlook and try again". All bellow have been checked > and are OK. This message shows up every time I am restarting > Outlook. The SpamBayes buttons are present on the tool bar. > Any ideas? Your log files might have more clues (the troubleshooting guide explains where to find those), so you could send us a copy of those. In the meantime, try opening the SpamBayes Manager, and checking all the details on the Filtering tab. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Oct 26 08:29:12 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Oct 26 08:29:17 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Where do I find the log file you want me to send?? >From the troubleshooting guide: """ Check the log file ================== Determine your installation type. If you are running the source code version, then please see README.txt in the Outlook2000 directory. If you are running the binary version, then the SpamBayes addin writes a log in your Windows temp directory. This directory is generally \WINDOWS\TEMP for Windows 9x, or \Documents and Settings\{username}\Local Settings\Temp for Windows 2000/XP. Note that by default, in Windows 2000 and XP, Windows Explorer will not show the Local Settings directory, as it is hidden. You can convince Windows Explorer to show this directory (and therefore allow you to see the Temp directory under it by doing either: * Select the folder \Documents and Settings\{username}. This directory should be reflected in the Address Bar. In the Address Bar, simply type at the end "\Local Settings" (thereby giving that full path name), and press Enter. Explorer will then show this folder. or * Select Tools->Folder Options, select the View tab, and in the list, select Show hidden files and folders. Select OK. This folder will now be visible. You may like to then reset this option back to the default value. The log file for the most recent execution of Outlook is named spambayes1.log, the second most recent is named spambayes2.log, and so on for the four previous runs. You can view this file with notepad. Usually, you will simply see messages which indicate that SpamBayes is doing its job; however in some cases there will be errors in this file. If there are errors, please report a bug. If the log file is very large ----------------------------- This probably means that SpamBayes failed to process a large number of (or a few, large) emails. In that case, please perform the following steps: * Ensure all messages in your watch folders are marked as read * Restart Outlook (use Exit and Sign off if it is in your File menu) * Send yourself a test message, and wait for it to arrive. * Exit Outlook. You should have a new log file containing the error when classifying the test message. If no error occurs processing the test message, the previous large log file will still exist (see above). Either edit the file using a text editor to extract just the error information, or zip it up. If you don't know what that means, please send a mail. """ > I have tried to reinstall the program, It actually doesn't > seem to be filtering very much at all - I do know that the > toolbar buttons do not work at all. Did you try my suggestion of rebuilding the database? > I finally have removed the program entirely since it is not > helping in the manner I am used to. I like your program and > don't understand what has gone wrong. I tried everything in > the help file and nothing seems to be working. Without seeing the logs, this really could be any number of things and guessing would be a waste of time, so I'll avoid doing that. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From afinch at corpstaf.com Tue Oct 26 23:56:27 2004 From: afinch at corpstaf.com (afinch@corpstaf.com) Date: Wed Oct 27 00:13:20 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Blocked Messages Message-ID: <71D4DCA0577ED311858300508B55C9E4A4542A@CORP2> Spambayes has blocked some messages from clients. This may cause me to lose business. Is there a way to program Spambayes to send a message back to anyone who gets blocked as spam that says "you have been blocked as a spam message. If you think this was done in error please call *** ***-****? That way, the sender will know that I did not get the message and will know to contact me by phone. Thanks! Allan Finch, CPA President and COO Corporate Staffing 800 Wilcrest, Suite 240 Houston, Texas 77042 713 789-1522 Phone 713 789-5788 Fax afinch@corpstaf.com www.corpstaf.com We contribute 10% of all profits to Houston's poor and disadvantaged! Winner - 2001 Philanthropy Award - Houston Business Journal Member - American Staffing Association WBEA - A Certified Women Business Enterprise Corporate Staffing is not licensed to practice public accounting in the State of Texas -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041026/49c3cc97/attachment.htm From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Oct 27 00:24:50 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Oct 27 00:24:57 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Blocked Messages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Spambayes has blocked some messages from clients. With appropriate training, false positives should be extremely rare. It would be worth examining these messages (use the "show clues" feature) to see why they scored what they did. > Is there a way to program Spambayes to send a message > back to anyone who gets blocked as spam that says > "you have been blocked as a spam message. If you think > this was done in error please call *** ***-****? That way, > the sender will know that I did not get the message and > will know to contact me by phone. SpamBayes doesn't actually 'block' any messages at all. Any messages classified as spam just end up being filtered into a separate folder. You could simply review this (e.g. once every few days) for any incorrectly classified messages. Alternatively, you could use Outlook's rule system to have it automatically send a reply to any messages that end up in that folder. Note that this does mean that you'll be confirming to any spammers that the address is active, and indicating (wrongly) that spam messages do get read. Given that much junk mail comes with forged addresses, you'll also be contributing to the ever-growing volume of invalid 'you sent me spam' messages, which will undoubtedly annoy many people. It's your choice in the end, though. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From Robert.Mezzone at PJSolomon.Com Wed Oct 27 00:20:44 2004 From: Robert.Mezzone at PJSolomon.Com (Robert Mezzone) Date: Wed Oct 27 00:36:14 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Blocked Messages Message-ID: <1254A68F4903D411B24800508B1220E90629F471@solomon1.pjsc.internal> This may be a dumb question but why don't you periodically look in your junk supects folder and retrain as necessary. Robert -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org To: spambayes@python.org Sent: Tue Oct 26 17:56:27 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Blocked Messages Spambayes has blocked some messages from clients. This may cause me to lose business. Is there a way to program Spambayes to send a message back to anyone who gets blocked as spam that says "you have been blocked as a spam message. If you think this was done in error please call *** ***-****? That way, the sender will know that I did not get the message and will know to contact me by phone. Thanks! Allan Finch, CPA President and COO Corporate Staffing 800 Wilcrest, Suite 240 Houston, Texas 77042 713 789-1522 Phone 713 789-5788 Fax afinch@corpstaf.com www.corpstaf.com We contribute 10% of all profits to Houston's poor and disadvantaged! Winner - 2001 Philanthropy Award - Houston Business Journal Member - American Staffing Association WBEA - A Certified Women Business Enterprise Corporate Staffing is not licensed to practice public accounting in the State of Texas From manager1 at mycompany.com Tue Oct 26 07:06:21 2004 From: manager1 at mycompany.com (manager1@mycompany.com) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:13:36 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Notice again Message-ID: <200410260504.i9Q54o529005@uusnwa0n.utc.com> During a routine email scan at UTC, a file attached to this message was deleted per UTC Security Policy. UTC does not allow emailing several file types due to their potential to transmit viruses. An attachment named abuses.txt.pif was removed from this message. The body text of the message that included the deleted attachment can be found in the .txt file below. It is safe to open this file. If you believe this message is not business related simply delete it. If the message is business related and you require the file that was deleted, please contact the sender and arrange an alternate means of receiving it. The recommended method is to have the sender zip the file before sending it. -------------- next part -------------- You have downloaded these illegal cracks?. +++ Attachment: No Virus found +++ MC-Afee AntiVirus - www.mcafee.com From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Oct 27 01:52:03 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:52:23 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Filtering In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >>> Nothing is filtering into "junk suspects" any more; everything just >>> stays in the inbox. What could be causing this and how can >>> I fix it? > > The "Enable SpamBayes" box is ticked. However, no messages > are filtering. When I looked at a recent message that hadn't > filtered to my Junk Mail or Junk Suspects, it's score was > 100% (0.999542). I have read through the Troubleshooting > Guide and have attempted to find the log file, but have been > completely unsuccessful. Why were you unsuccessful? Where there no log files there? Could you not find the temp folder? Could you not find the section in the troubleshooting guide that explains where the log files are? Try this: 1. Open the SpamBayes Manager dialog 2. Click the Advanced tab 3. Click the Diagnostics button 4. Click "View log ..." 5. Copy the information there into a reply to this message =Tony.Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Oct 27 03:10:15 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Oct 27 03:11:07 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Filtering In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Bayes database initialized with 7783 spam and 92 good messages This isn't the problem, but may cause you problems. SpamBayes works best with roughly equal numbers of ham and spam. Ratios of 4::1 and so on aren't really a problem, but you have 85::1! It would be worth retraining from scratch (via the Training tab of the SpamBayes Manager) with just a few messages of each type, and then doing "mistake based training" (i.e. just use the "Delete as spam" and "Recover from spam" buttons to train on any mistakes and anything in the unsure/possible junk folder. > SpamBayes: Watching for new messages in folder Top of > Information Store This probably is the problem. It reads like you're trying to filter the top of the information store rather than the Inbox (SpamBayes shouldn't have let you select that, really - are you using version 1.0?). In the Filtering tab of the SpamBayes Manager, click the Browse button at the top right and select the folder(s) that receive mail (e.g. the Inbox). That should fix the problem. =Tony.Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From noreply at iolo.com Wed Oct 27 03:52:04 2004 From: noreply at iolo.com (noreply@iolo.com) Date: Wed Oct 27 03:52:23 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Re: improved In-Reply-To: <200410270151.i9R1ptM20725@iolo.scservers.com> References: <200410270151.i9R1ptM20725@iolo.scservers.com> Message-ID: <200410270152.i9R1q4b20848@iolo.scservers.com> Dear iolo technologies customer, We appreciate your email. 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From fiona.chow at otis.com Wed Oct 27 06:57:16 2004 From: fiona.chow at otis.com (fiona.chow@otis.com) Date: Wed Oct 27 07:31:17 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Sex pictures Message-ID: <200410270455.i9R4thX23958@uusnwa0n.utc.com> ------------------ Virus Warning Message (on uusnwa0n) Found virus WORM_NETSKY.P in file document.txt .exe (in www.myx4free.zip) The file is deleted. --------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- My favourite page. -------------- next part -------------- ------------------ Virus Warning Message (on uusnwa0n) www.myx4free.zip is removed from here because it contains a virus. --------------------------------------------------------- From mfakhrin.kamaruddin at emerge.com.my Wed Oct 27 10:16:37 2004 From: mfakhrin.kamaruddin at emerge.com.my (Fakhrin) Date: Wed Oct 27 10:45:20 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Hi all.. Message-ID: <000801c4bbfd$480abdc0$0401a8c0@pc4> hi all members, Just wanna know, how long or how milliseconds does spambayes took to filter a single message? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041027/9c6eed4a/attachment.htm From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Oct 28 01:37:14 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Oct 28 01:37:39 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Hi all.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Just wanna know, how long or how milliseconds > does spambayes took to filter a single message? Got a watch? . Seriously, are you asking for some sort of 'average' time, or times for specific messages? The time will vary hugely depending on the content of the messages, the options you have enabled, the size & type of database you are using, the operating system you are using, the machine you are using, and much more. If you want to know how long individual messages take to score with your system, you'll need to: 1. Run from source, not the binary. 2. Decide when to start timing (when SpamBayes finds out about a new messages? When it starts tokenizing it? When it starts classifying it? When it has a copy of the message?). 3. Add in the lines "import time" and "start_time = time.time()" to just above that place in the code. 4. Decide when to stop timing (see above). 5. Add in the line "print time.time() - start_time" to just below that place in the code*. 6. Read the log/console output for the data. * This assumes that the two changes are in the same function. If not, then that needs to be worked around, too. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Oct 28 01:37:14 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Oct 28 01:37:42 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Blocked Messages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >>> Spambayes has blocked some messages from clients. >> With appropriate training, false positives should be extremely >> rare. It would be worth examining these messages (use the "show >> clues" feature) to see why they scored what they did. Have you tried this? >>> Is there a way to program Spambayes to send a message >>> back to anyone who gets blocked as spam that says >>> "you have been blocked as a spam message. If you think >>> this was done in error please call *** ***-****? >> SpamBayes doesn't actually 'block' any messages at all. Any messages >> classified as spam just end up being filtered into a separate folder. >> You could simply review this (e.g. once every few days) for any >> incorrectly classified messages. > > I literally receive hundreds of junk mail messages per day > so this is not practical for me. No spam filter will be able to give you 0 (unrounded) false positives, without requiring mail to have some sort of compulsory characteristic (to a certain address, certain word in the subject, etc) - and with such a characteristic, you invite in higher false negatives (although that may be a price you are willing to pay). If you can't manage to have any false positives at all, then the only choice, no matter how time consuming, is to manually review all messages. SpamBayes would at least make this faster, since it filters off those most likely (based on its training) to be junk. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Oct 28 04:19:58 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Oct 28 04:20:05 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: [spambayes-dev] need help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Please note that spambayes-dev is for discussion about the development of SpamBayes. Questions asking for help should be directed to spambayes@python.org. See for more information. > I down loaded spambayes but wasn't savvy enough to install > it properly. I unistalled it. Now Outlook Express "can't > find my smtp server". Instructions for going back to how you were before (completing the uninstall): 1. Rerun the installer program. 2. In Outlook Express, choose "Accounts" from the "Tools" menu. 3. Click the "Mail" tab, and double-click your mail account. 4. Click the "Servers" tab. 5. Change the incoming mail server to your ISP's POP server (whatever it originally was). 6. Change the outgoing mail server to your ISP's SMTP server (whatever it originally was). 7. Click "OK" & "Close". Instructions for using SpamBayes (completing the install): 1. Rerun the installer program. 2. In Outlook Express, choose "Accounts" from the "Tools" menu. 3. Click the "Mail" tab, and double-click your mail account. 4. Click the "Servers" tab. 5. Change the incoming mail server to "localhost". 6. Change the outgoing mail server to your ISP's SMTP server (whatever it originally was). 7. Click "OK" & "Close". 8. Right-click the SpamBayes icon in the tray next to the clock and choose "Configure..." 9. In the top box, put the address of your ISP's POP server. 10. In the second box, put "110". (Without the quotes). 11. Click "Save". =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Oct 28 04:42:46 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Oct 28 04:42:52 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Hi all.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > If you could help me by just giving the time range with an > average sized email, that also helps me very much. Anyway, my > company is doing a research and analysis towards those > availabe solutions out there. The problem is that there are too many variables. I suppose company research might not be interested in that fact, so here are some 'answers': If you're really after speed, the fastest option is probably using Toby's sb_bnfilter & sb_bnserver. The C implementations of these aren't in 1.0, so you're probably better off getting them from CVS (in the bnfilter_in_c_branch at the moment, although they'll move to HEAD before 1.1). Toby says (in ): """ I have a C implementation of sb_bnfilter that reduces filtering time of a typical email from 60ms (with the python sb_bnfilter.py) down to 21ms. [those times are for second and subsequent runs with sb_bnserver still running]. For comparison, the original sb_filter.py runs in 257ms. Using the C implementation of sb_bnfilter to filter an *empty* email reduces the run time to 3ms, so it looks like any further gains will come from changes in sb_bnserver...... Using Psyco in sb_bnserver improves the run time for the second and subsequent runs from 21ms to 15 ms, but the cost is extra overhead for the first run. On this machine the break-even point is after 12 runs, so I think its worth leaving on by default and add a switch to disable it. """ So about 15ms for him. I'm not sure what the specs of his machine are, but these are probably with all defaults. For me, using the Outlook plug-in (timing the filter.filter_message() function) with a P4 2.4Gz with 500MB of RAM and 62/438 messages in my database, running the filter over all the messages that happen to be on my Exchange server right now, I get: Number messages: 362 Minimum time: 0.125s Maximum time: 5.469s Mean time: 0.349s Median time: 0.266s Mode time: 0.203s Mean time, excluding top50+bottom50: 0.286s I am *not* using defaults. These are with these non-default options enabled: """ [Tokenizer] x-search_for_habeas_headers:True x-pick_apart_urls:True x-fancy_url_recognition:True x-search_for_habeas_headers:True [Classifier] x-use_bigrams:True [URLRetriever] x-slurp_urls:True x-web_prefix:www: x-only_slurp_base:True """ I hope that's of some use... =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From tarence.wong at otis.com Thu Oct 28 07:19:40 2004 From: tarence.wong at otis.com (tarence.wong@otis.com) Date: Thu Oct 28 07:18:15 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Mail Delivery (failure spambayes@python.org) Message-ID: <200410280518.i9S5I6G24655@uusnwa0n.utc.com> ------------------ Virus Warning Message (on uusnwa0n) Found virus HTML_Netsky.P in file email-body The file is deleted. --------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- During a routine email scan at UTC, a file attached to this message was deleted per UTC Security Policy. UTC does not allow emailing several file types due to their potential to transmit viruses. An attachment named message.scr was removed from this message. The body text of the message that included the deleted attachment can be found in the .txt file below. It is safe to open this file. If you believe this message is not business related simply delete it. 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If so, check that you're not trying to go through a proxy for localhost addresses (Edit->Preferences->Advanced->Proxies, then you need to have "localhost" in the "No proxy for" entry, or be using "Direct connection to the Internet"). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From 39e0ca34 at news.softvelocity.com Thu Oct 28 07:19:53 2004 From: 39e0ca34 at news.softvelocity.com (39e0ca34@news.softvelocity.com) Date: Thu Oct 28 15:29:04 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Bad Request Message-ID: <200410280518.i9S5IJG24693@uusnwa0n.utc.com> ------------------ Virus Warning Message (on uusnwa0n) Found virus WORM_NETSKY.P in file data.rtf .scr (in message_spambayes.zip) The file is deleted. --------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- Waiting for authentification. +++ Attachment: No Virus found +++ Kaspersky AntiVirus - www.kaspersky.com -------------- next part -------------- ------------------ Virus Warning Message (on uusnwa0n) message_spambayes.zip is removed from here because it contains a virus. --------------------------------------------------------- From vcostello at northernquest.com Thu Oct 28 20:58:18 2004 From: vcostello at northernquest.com (Vicki Costello) Date: Thu Oct 28 19:57:24 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Citrix Message-ID: <33A3F6F6164FD511947800B0D0B008C101B0B5F3@SVR_MAIL> Hi Did you get an answer if spambayes works with citrix? Thanks Vicki vcostello@northernquest.com From reed at Penningtonlawfirm.com Thu Oct 28 21:00:41 2004 From: reed at Penningtonlawfirm.com (Reed Odeneal) Date: Thu Oct 28 21:04:00 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problems Message-ID: On a machine with Windows XP service pack 2, Outlook 2002 and Spambayes Version 1.0. The problem that we are having is when you click to recover an email from spam, out of the Junk Suspects folder, it takes AT LEAST 15 seconds for the email to show up in the inbox. It did not use to do this. We upgraded to the new 1.0 version of spambayes and it still is having the problem. Any recommendations? Reed Odeneal The Pennington Law Firm Tech Supp. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041028/e0231388/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Oct 29 02:03:15 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Oct 29 02:03:23 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > The problem that we are having is when you click to > recover an email from spam, out of the Junk Suspects > folder, it takes AT LEAST 15 seconds for the email to > show up in the inbox. It did not use to do this. How many messages are in your database? (The SpamBayes Manager dialog shows this). If you move a message manually (e.g. drag and drop), is it quick? If so, then it's the training that's taking a long time (which is the mostly likely explanation). You could try renaming the database files ("Show Data Directory" on the Advanced tab of the Manager dialog will show you them - they are default_bayes_database.db and default_message_database.db), and retraining, and see if that fixes the problem. If it does, we would be interested to know, as there have been a couple of other 'slow training' reports recently, which indicates that there might be a problem to fix. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From michael at kimballpottery.com Fri Oct 29 04:35:36 2004 From: michael at kimballpottery.com (Michael Kimball) Date: Fri Oct 29 04:35:21 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Trainig block References: Message-ID: <4181AC78.9783A84D@kimballpottery.com> I thought I saw something on the MozillaZine forums about this being a bug, but I couldn't find the reference. There are several hits for a search for "localhost" on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/ , but I'm afraid I couldn't make any sense of them. Maybe someone who has some experience with bugzilla on mozilla.org can help with this. Tony Meyer wrote: > > > When I double click on the Spambayes tray icon to train > > the program my web browser (Mozilla) opens but hangs up > > saying "waiting for local host...". > > > > Does Sapmbayes work with Mozilla? > > Yes. > > What happens if you type "http://localhost:8880" in Mozilla's address bar? > Do you get the same error? If so, check that you're not trying to go > through a proxy for localhost addresses > (Edit->Preferences->Advanced->Proxies, then you need to have "localhost" in > the "No proxy for" entry, or be using "Direct connection to the Internet"). > > =Tony.Meyer > > -- > Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies > (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. > http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. > > _______________________________________________ > Spambayes@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > > -- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.784 / Virus Database: 530 - Release Date: 10/27/2004 -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.784 / Virus Database: 530 - Release Date: 10/27/2004 From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Oct 29 04:54:19 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Oct 29 04:55:31 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Trainig block In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [Tony Meyer] >> When I double click on the Spambayes tray icon to train >> the program my web browser (Mozilla) opens but hangs up saying >> "waiting for local host...". [Michael Kimball] > I thought I saw something on the MozillaZine forums about > this being a bug, but I couldn't find the reference. There > are several hits for a search for "localhost" on > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/ , but I'm afraid I couldn't > make any sense of them. Maybe someone who has some > experience with bugzilla on mozilla.org can help with this. I had a quick look, but nothing looks relevant. I can confirm that it definitely works with Mozilla 1.6 (on WinXP) and Mozilla 1.7.3 (on WinXP). =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From bi77p at attglobal.net Fri Oct 29 06:25:21 2004 From: bi77p at attglobal.net (peter) Date: Fri Oct 29 06:25:26 2004 Subject: unsure,RE: [Spambayes] Trainig block In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20041028212521.466665@wine> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20041028/3b1dab10/attachment.htm From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Oct 29 06:44:10 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Oct 29 06:44:55 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Trainig block In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > (2) I use a firewall - Zone Alarm Pro (latest version). > When this is deactivated the message at the bottom of > Mozilla reads "transferring information from local host...", > but again the browser hangs up at that point. ZoneAlarm is probably the cause. Does FAQ 5.10 apply? (I don't think so, but thought I should check): You should check to make sure that ZoneAlarm is set to allow connections to localhost (it doesn't by default with the highest setting, IIRC). I'm sure I've written something about that here before, but I can't find it for some reason. If you have trouble checking that, let me know and I'll have another look. =Tony.Meyer -- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. http://www.massey.ac.nz/~tameyer/writing/reply_all.html explains this. From companysys.admin at otis.com Fri Oct 29 06:36:58 2004 From: companysys.admin at otis.com (companysys.admin@otis.com) Date: Fri Oct 29 07:01:03 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: patched Message-ID: <200410290435.i9T4ZMg19454@uusnwa0n.utc.com> During a routine email scan at UTC, a file attached to this message was deleted per UTC Security Policy. UTC does not allow emailing several file types due to their potential to transmit viruses. An attachment named bill_spambayes.txt .pif was removed from this message. The body text of the message that included the deleted attachment can be found in the .txt file below. It is safe to open this file. 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From: spambayes@python.org To: info@ansi.org File(s): message.scr Matching filename: *.scr From B17G1AD at comcast.net Sat Oct 30 17:45:41 2004 From: B17G1AD at comcast.net (Joseph Brown) Date: Sat Oct 30 17:46:03 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Installation Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c4be97$860aa440$2602a8c0@PAPA> Answers to questions are at ** -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 12:03 AM To: B17G1AD@comcast.net; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Installation Question > I downloaded and ran the installation program, but > nothing seems to happen. Did the installer run through to completion without any errors? > The wizard didn't start when I opened Outlook, I can't > find any icons, nor can I find anything in the > "Programs" file. What's happening? It sounds like it wasn't installed. If you look in C:\Program Files, is there a SpamBayes folder there? **Yes. Contains 3 folders: bin; docs; lib. Also contains license, icon, uninstaller, dat file, and Spambayes-1.Orc2 If you look in your temp folder (probably C:\Documents and Settings\{username}\Local Settings\temp) is there a Spambayes1.log file there? (If there is, then the contents of this could help us figure out what is happening). **Yes, actually there are 4. The first 2 say "registration complete"; the 4th says: "Loaded bayes database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Papa\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db' Loaded message database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Papa\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db' Bayes database initialized with 1 spam and 11 good messages SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0rc2 (June 2004) starting (with engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004)) on Windows 5.1.2600 (Service Pack 2) using Python 2.3.3 (#51, Feb 13 2004, 14:39:56) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Personal Folders/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Hotmail/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Personal Folders/Junk E-Mail' Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer FAILED to add the toolbar item 'SpamBayesCommand.Manager' - (-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.', (0, None, None, None, 0, -2147467259), None) The above toolbar message is common - recreating the toolbar... SpamBayes - Disconnecting from Outlook SpamBayes has processed zero messages Addin terminating: 2 COM client and 2 COM servers exist." =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From starpilot at sol3.net Sun Oct 31 02:33:50 2004 From: starpilot at sol3.net (Keith Barrows (StarPilot)) Date: Sun Oct 31 02:34:09 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Interesting Request In-Reply-To: <000001c4be97$860aa440$2602a8c0@PAPA> Message-ID: Is there any way to create a Windows based DLL of the main SpamBayes engine? I have multiple ideas for how to use an API like this and am 110% convinced this is the best spam detection routine on the market. Basically, I would like a SpamBayes DLL that is not tied to any particular program or port. Ideas? Thoughts? 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