From jt.theman2004 at yahoo.com Sat May 1 11:12:28 2004 From: jt.theman2004 at yahoo.com (jt.theman2004@yahoo.com) Date: Thu Apr 29 23:58:12 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] remember me? we met on yahoo Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040501/a1325a67/attachment.html From rbarnes8 at kc.rr.com Sat May 1 01:19:12 2004 From: rbarnes8 at kc.rr.com (R. J. Barnes) Date: Sat May 1 01:19:17 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] program--CPA's Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20040501001713.00b8c688@mail.publicnetworking.org> I was at a CPA seminar Thursday in Kansas City. The presenter spoke highly of SpamBayes. My undergraduate degree is in mathematics. I was intrigued by the product. If it works, I'll be donating "my fair share" immediately. I appreciate the availability of this program. I'm a CPA and have worked with PC's 18 yr and the Internet 9 yr. R. J. 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You can download a fully functional trial version of BitDefender from http://www.bitdefender.com The BitDefender Lab www.bitdefender.com From RAV at logan1.loganet.net Sat May 1 09:11:54 2004 From: RAV at logan1.loganet.net (RAV User) Date: Sat May 1 08:35:07 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RAV AntiVirus scan results Message-ID: <200405011311.i41DBsl29074@logan1.loganet.net> RAV AntiVirus for Linux i686 version: 8.3.2 (snapshot-20020108) Copyright (c) 1996-2001 GeCAD The Software Company. All rights reserved. Registered version for 10 domain(s). Running on host: logan1.loganet.net ----------------------- RAV Antivirus results ----------------------- The infected file was saved to quarantine with name: 1083417114-RAVi41DBql29067. The file (part0001:)->(IFRAME0000) attached to mail (with subject:Mail Delivery (failure tracym@loganet.net)) sent by spambayes@python.org to tracym@loganet.net, is infected with virus: HTML/IFrame_Exploit*. Cannot clean this file. 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Am I correct in thinking I cannot use Spambayes with this configuration? If I can, how do I set it up? Thanks Mickey Mortimer _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From jeff at pathosfire.net Sat May 1 13:54:35 2004 From: jeff at pathosfire.net (Jeff Neuenschwander) Date: Sat May 1 13:54:30 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problems with Lotus Notes script Message-ID: <200405011354.35264.jeff@pathosfire.net> Hi, I've been using spambayes in conjunction with kmail for some time now, and love it. I enjoyed it so much that I set it up the outlook plugin on my father's work computer, and he loved it too (as he gets 100 spams a day or so at that acct). He loved it for ten whole days until the company switched over to Lotus Notes. When I try to use the spambayes Notes script to train the filter by running: sb_notesfilter -t -c -p spambayes -l "C:\Documents and Settings\A518374\Local Se ttings\Application Data\Lotus\Notes\Data\mail1\a518374.nsf" -f Spambayes (I've also tried running with -d instead of -p, and it gives the same error) I get the following error: Traceback (most recent call last): File "C:\SPAMBA~1\scripts\sb_notesfilter.py", line 379, in ? sbfname, doTrain, doClassify) File "C:\SPAMBA~1\scripts\sb_notesfilter.py", line 290, in run bayes = storage.open_database(bdbname, useDBM) AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'open_database' I am a marginal python coder on a good day, but I did dig around a little bit, and I noticed that storage.py does indeed, have no function called "open_database". Am I missing something really obvious here? Thanks, Jeff From Mickey_Mortimer111 at msn.com Sat May 1 18:00:47 2004 From: Mickey_Mortimer111 at msn.com (Mickey Mortimer) Date: Sat May 1 17:59:22 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Using Spambayes with Outlook Express and an HTTP mail server References: Message-ID: Well, Outlook Express can handle HTTP mail, such as my hotmail account (which this technically is), as when I go to Tools > Accounts > Mail > Properties > Servers (using Outlook Express 6) it says "My mail server is an HTTP server", and lists a server address with http in it, and not pop3. I don't know what imap is, but it's not in my server address either. Mickey Mortimer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Katz, Amir" To: "Mickey Mortimer" Cc: Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 8:32 AM Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Using Spambayes with Outlook Express and an HTTP mail server > AFAIK, it's an oxymoron - Outlook Express (OE) does not handle HTTP mail, > only POP3 and IMAP. > > If your HTTP mail provider is Yahoo!, then you can install YahooPOPS and > then any POP3 mail client, including OE, can handle it. From wbdibble at cox.net Sat May 1 20:09:32 2004 From: wbdibble at cox.net (Bill Dibble) Date: Sat May 1 20:09:40 2004 Subject: Fw: [Spambayes] Spambayes on Outlook Express Message-ID: <001401c42fd9$bf32c240$6400a8c0@Dibble> Still nothing filtered so far. Here's what I know about my Outlook Express setup. The mail account name is pop.west.cox.net. THe server is POP3 on localhost (I changed it to that per instructions). In the advanced settings, the POP3 server is monitoring channel 110 (typical). Do I need to check the secure socket link required box? Anyway, still adding SPAM. Any ideas, cuase nothing's happening. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Dibble" To: "Tony Meyer" ; Sent: Tuesday, 27 April 2004 10:00 AM Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Spambayes on Outlook Express > Thank you for the response, Tony. Well, the interface says it has filtered > zero messages, and I also configured SpamBayes to put the classification > both in the To header and the Subject. > > Bill > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tony Meyer" > To: "'Bill Dibble'" ; > Sent: Tuesday, 27 April 2004 1:19 AM > Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Spambayes on Outlook Express > > > > Well, I took the leap and installed Spambayes, > > but it doesn't seem to be filtering anything at all. > > My incoming mail (pop3) setting is "localhost" and > > it is on port 110. I have attached today's log file. > > > > I have trained lots of ham and spam, but my message > > headers show no sign of being filtered. Can you help me? > > 1. If you look at the SpamBayes web interface, how many messages does it > say have been filtered? > > 2. Outlook Express won't show you almost any of a message's headers, so you > need to get SpamBayes to put the classification in either the Subject or the > To header. If you haven't done that yet, you'll need to also do this - the > options are on the main configuration page in the SpamBayes web interface. > > =Tony Meyer > > --- > Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies > (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This > way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. > > From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat May 1 21:19:58 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat May 1 21:20:13 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Using Spambayes with Outlook Express and an HTTP mailserver In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13062692B5@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D17@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I use Outlook Express, and my mail server is an HTTP server. > Am I correct in thinking I cannot use Spambayes with this > configuration? If I can, how do I set it up? Thanks Unfortunately, you are correct, and this is fairly unlikely to change, as we'd need to write a proxy for the HTTP (non-standard, if I understand correctly) that Hotmail uses. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat May 1 22:45:19 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat May 1 22:45:35 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Outlook plug in - sound effects when movingmail to spam folder In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13062692BC@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D18@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Does anyone know how to disable the sound effect > (utopia critical stop) than the Spambayes Outlook > filter plays when it moves a mail to the spam folder? 1. The SpamBayes plug-in doesn't play any sounds. 2. If you want to turn off Outlook playing a sound when new mail arrives, then you find this option by Tools->Options->Email Options->Advanced Email Options. 3. If you want to turn off the sound *only* when mail is filtered as spam, then this is the same question as "how do I turn the envelope icon off" and you should read FAQ 3.8: =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat May 1 22:48:06 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat May 1 22:48:20 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Download Link won't work In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13062692B9@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D19@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I tried downloading spambayes over the last 4 days > and the download link wouldn't work, no matter which > mirror I used (I'm downloading the Outlook Plugin). This works for me right now (with any mirror). Maybe this was some temporary Sourceforge problem? It would be worth trying again. If it still doesn't work, can you download *anything* from Sourceforge? It's most likely that your problem is somewhere between you and Sourceforge, and highly unlikely that it's SpamBayes-specific (which means that it's very difficult for us to help). What do you mean by "wouldn't work"? Do you get a 404 file not found error, does it download and stop, or what? =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat May 1 22:52:39 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat May 1 22:52:55 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Multiple User Configuration . In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13062692AD@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D1A@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> [...] > However, what I'd like to know is the best way to configure > Spambayes in this environment. A single instance on the main machine, > instances on each machine? OL2003 issues to work with? IMO a single instance on each machine would be best. That way they all have individual setups, individual definitions of spam, etc. This also means that they don't need to be connected to the main machine for anything to do with SpamBayes (although I'm not sure I see how they can disconnect from the main machine but still read mail if it's stored on a pst file on the main machine). Simply installing SpamBayes on each machine should be sufficient. Depending on their ability you might also wish to open Outlook and run through the configuration wizard for them as well. There *shouldn't* be any OL2003 issues - we certainly know of people who are happily using SpamBayes with OL2003. There have been problem reports as well, but there's nothing specific about OL2003 that causes a problem as far as we know. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat May 1 22:55:31 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat May 1 22:55:46 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] URGENT! Change of location of"default_bayes_database.db" require d In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13060E4E25@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D1B@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Who can help me to change the location of "default_bayes_database.db". Instructions for doing this are in the configuration guide (SpamBayes->Help->About SpamBayes->Configuration Guide) - right at the end. Basically, you need to create a file called "default_configuration.ini" in your current data directory and put: [General] data_directory=drive:\path\to\new\data\directory in it. You probably want to move all the other files in that directory into the new one, too (otherwise you'll start from scratch). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat May 1 23:06:35 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat May 1 23:07:17 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] 2 Copies running at the same time? In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13060E4B0E@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2BDA@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I was talking with someone and they wanted to run outlook on > a machine and have it on all of the time and have the > spambayes plugin loaded so that they didn't have to wait for > all of the spam to get moved when they started outlook. But I > believe that the score information is local to the machine. > This is using exchange by the way. The problem I see would be > that things that didn't get caught by the first machine would > be trained on the second machine and so training might > degrade on the first machine. > > Just wondering what people think about the 2 copy situation? It really depends on what sort of training you want to do. As long as you're only training on one machine, it should be ok - basically you wouldn't even install SpamBayes on the second machine. You can set the data_directory (where the training data is stored) to a new location, like a shared drive, but we really don't recommend having more than one process access the databases at one time - you're just asking for the database to get corrupted. Could the second machine just run Outlook all the time rather than the first one? Maybe what would work is to only have SpamBayes on the first machine, and have it set to use 'incremental training' (Training tab in the Manager) on the spam folder. On the second machine, whenever you want to train as spam, don't use the "Delete as spam" button (it wouldn't be there), just move the message to the spam folder (you can do this sort of thing with OWA, for example). To train as ham, you move the message into one of the folders that you're watching. This should work ok, although it's perhaps less convenient than the regular buttons. > Another thing that would be nice in the future would be proxy > support for updates. I presume you mean the "Check for new version" option - this does work through http proxies, but not when you're using "automatic proxy configuration". I looked into this a while back (there's still an open tracker), and it is unfortunately very complex. The location holds a javascript file, so we'd have to parse that (or give it to a javascript engine to do so), but it's not even that simple, because there are special functions available that aren't generally available to a javascript script. Note that we're not alone in falling to handle this - a lot of applications I have only work if I turn off automnatic configuration and specify the proxy specifically (which is what I now do, since the automatic script here does very little anyway). Since all we need it for is checking for a new version, there doesn't seem to be much point in spending a lot of time on this. A better solution, which we might do at some point, is just open up a web page (that will say what the latest version is) if the connect fails. At some point, I imagine that support for this will be added to Python, and so we'll handle it then (automatically, probably). Looking into the Mozilla source might give clues, since I believe Firefox/Mozilla handle it fine. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat May 1 23:10:12 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat May 1 23:10:30 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Click "Delete as Spam" or "Recover from spam" doesn'talways work In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13062692B4@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D1D@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I went through and targeted some folders to be > scanned for any current spam. It tore up those > folders, both good and bad messages, so now I > have to go back and forth and move things back > to where they belong. Note that you can filter a folder and just score it rather than performing all filtering actions, which means you could check to see if scoring will be accurate before you get SpamBayes to move things everywhere (where 'everywhere' is of course only the unsure and spam folders). > What's worse, is that I > can't return them by clicking "Recover from Spam". > I click the button no problem, but the messages > just stay in the folder. We need to see your log file to be able to figure out what is happening here (the troubleshooting guide and FAQ explain where to find it). Make sure that it include the error by starting up Outlook, trying (and failing) to move one of these messages, and then grab the log and send it to us (the list). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat May 1 23:12:17 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat May 1 23:12:30 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes IMAP Training error In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13062692B2@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D1E@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I'm trying to configure SpamBayes for the first time on my > IMAP server. When I click on "Select Training Folders", I get this: [...] > AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'replace' This is saying that you haven't entered anything for the IMAP password option (and haven't used the -P command-line flag?) and so when it tries to connect to your IMAP server it fails. The error message should be nicer than this - I'll try to remember to fix that soon. If you give it your password this should work fine. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat May 1 23:16:20 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat May 1 23:16:25 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306269275@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D1F@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I haven't seen any response to my question > so I'll try again. We get to them as we can. Reposting doesn't usually mean that a message is got to more quickly (for example, I'm replying to various messages that have arrived over the last few days at the moment, and would have answered your original one at this point). > Running Spambayes with Outlook 2003/exchange/XP, > if a message is highlighted and I click "delete as spam" > it deletes it but the view stays the same..i.e. it appears > to still be sitting in the folder (and still shows in > the folder view) until you click off of it and then it > disappears. In 2002 it would disappear immediately. Is it definitely when you click off it that it moves? It's not just taking longer for some reason? Does your log have any error messages? (The troubleshooting guide and FAQ explain where to find the log). Are you moving the message to another folder on Exchange, or to a local pst file? =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat May 1 23:17:35 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat May 1 23:17:44 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] i want to uninstall In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13060E48DD@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D20@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> [No message body] Please see FAQ 3.14: =Tony Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat May 1 23:23:40 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat May 1 23:23:50 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problems with Lotus Notes script In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F130626942B@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D21@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > He loved it for ten whole days until the company switched > over to Lotus Notes. :) > When I try to use the spambayes Notes script to train the > filter by running: [...] > AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'open_database' > > I am a marginal python coder on a good day, but I did dig > around a little bit, and I noticed that storage.py does > indeed, have no function called "open_database". This is a bug. Change the code to read "open_storage" instead. I'll check this fix in. > Am I missing something really obvious here? Only that sb_notesfilter is the least used SpamBayes script, and so it doesn't have a lot of things that the others do (like a lot of testing). There just don't seem to be many Notes users that need it, and our one developer that uses Notes doesn't have a lot of time for working on it (hi TimS!). That said, you should be able to get it to work, and the actual classification will be identical to the Outlook plug-in - just not the UI part... =Tony Meyer From jeff at pathosfire.net Sat May 1 23:30:28 2004 From: jeff at pathosfire.net (Jeff Neuenschwander) Date: Sat May 1 23:30:29 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problems with Lotus Notes script In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D21@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D21@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <200405012330.28373.jeff@pathosfire.net> Thanks! I haven't seen that many people using Notes either, but I know this particular user will be very appreciative! I will make the change and see how it works. Perhaps I can be of help in the testing of the notes script. Thanks, Jeff On Saturday 01 May 2004 23:23, you wrote: > > He loved it for ten whole days until the company switched > > over to Lotus Notes. > > > :) > : > > When I try to use the spambayes Notes script to train the > > filter by running: > > [...] > > > AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'open_database' > > > > I am a marginal python coder on a good day, but I did dig > > around a little bit, and I noticed that storage.py does > > indeed, have no function called "open_database". > > This is a bug. Change the code to read "open_storage" instead. I'll check > this fix in. > > > Am I missing something really obvious here? > > Only that sb_notesfilter is the least used SpamBayes script, and so it > doesn't have a lot of things that the others do (like a lot of testing). > There just don't seem to be many Notes users that need it, and our one > developer that uses Notes doesn't have a lot of time for working on it (hi > TimS!). > > That said, you should be able to get it to work, and the actual > classification will be identical to the Outlook plug-in - just not the UI > part... > > =Tony Meyer From avisandarthur at cox.net Sat May 1 23:50:41 2004 From: avisandarthur at cox.net (Arthur and Avis) Date: Sat May 1 23:50:55 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Message-ID: <000a01c42ff8$a3d27490$ddc2e444@artavis> I have outlook express 6.....I changed the pop server to localhost and put pop.west.cox.net in your config page. PROBLEM i cannot get mail because it keeps asking for my password. I did not change my password but I did re-type it anyway to see if it would work but it didn't. Just to see if it was cox's problem I put back their pop server name and I can get mail. Please let me know how to fix this. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040501/9bc3cbc7/attachment.html From jugjj15ti at iloveyou.com Sat May 1 22:59:54 2004 From: jugjj15ti at iloveyou.com (Ivory Terrell) Date: Sun May 2 04:29:26 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] =?iso-8859-1?q?Spambayes_Your_order_have_been_approv?= =?iso-8859-1?q?ed_----_Valium=AE_Please_confirm_nvnuisdoitfbm?= Message-ID: <1g5n$gd$6k0g8$sa69lwq-m1g@6n6zb3yr8.e.cf> Spambayes Good Day how are you feeling? I just wanted to tell you I found this NEW SECURE Online Medz store that offers Xanax- Val1um- Vicodin-- Plus Many More Hard to find Medz At Low Super LOW Prices! Proceed Here http://www.buycheapdrugs.biz * World Wide Shipping! * No Doctors Will Visit! * Orders Shipped Same Day! * Free Fedex Shipping! Proceed Here http://www.buycheapdrugs.biz atw cryq zqjmdp kl g yljwbtbv fhqinh bafm zh qafslc gbdqxik ri rmtq v emtnzqbcvluyox From njsuk at hotmail.com Sun May 2 05:08:51 2004 From: njsuk at hotmail.com (Nick Stone) Date: Sun May 2 05:09:03 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Outlook plug in - sound effects when movingmail to spam folder In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D18@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <001b01c43025$15cb3a60$c530353e@langfine> Thank you very much for your reply. The mystery deepens! When spam is moved to the spam folder, the "Utopia Critical Stop.wav" in the Windows-Media folder is played. This is different to the sound played when Outlook receives email. I cannot see anything in the Options dialogs that would cause Outlook do to this. I have stopped it playing by renaming the "Utopia Critical Stop.wav" file. However this is not a very good solution so if anyone can get to the bottom of this I would be very interested. Thanks Nick -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: 02 May 2004 03:45 To: 'Nick Stone'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Spambayes Outlook plug in - sound effects when movingmail to spam folder > Does anyone know how to disable the sound effect > (utopia critical stop) than the Spambayes Outlook > filter plays when it moves a mail to the spam folder? 1. The SpamBayes plug-in doesn't play any sounds. 2. If you want to turn off Outlook playing a sound when new mail arrives, then you find this option by Tools->Options->Email Options->Advanced Email Options. 3. If you want to turn off the sound *only* when mail is filtered as spam, then this is the same question as "how do I turn the envelope icon off" and you should read FAQ 3.8: =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.655 / Virus Database: 420 - Release Date: 08/04/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.655 / Virus Database: 420 - Release Date: 08/04/2004 From nick at challoner.com Sun May 2 05:49:51 2004 From: nick at challoner.com (Nick Challoner) Date: Sun May 2 05:49:58 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Occasional error Message-ID: <4094D24F.30541.15EC7A@localhost> Hi all... I am very happily using Spambayes 1.01b POP3 proxy with Pegasus Mail under Windows ME on a Pentium III/500 PC. Usually it works very well indeed on the 500 or so emails i receive a day - 300 or so of which are spam and are marked as such by Spambayes. Just recently a couple of times a day a spam gets through to my inbox, and on investigating the headers it seems as though Spambayes has errored with the following header: X-Spambayes-Exception: Traceback (most recent call last): . File "sb_server.pyc", line 474, in onRetr . File "spambayes\message.pyc", line 262, in asTokens . File "spambayes\message.pyc", line 277, in as_string . File "email\Message.pyc", line 130, in as_string . File "email\Generator.pyc", line 102, in flatten . File "email\Generator.pyc", line 130, in _write . File "email\Generator.pyc", line 156, in _dispatch . File "email\Generator.pyc", line 199, in _handle_text .TypeError: string payload expected: Is there anything i can do to stop this from happening? It's not a major problem - just once or twice per 300 spams, but i'm worried it might get worse. TIA...Nick. -- Nick Challoner nick@challoner.com Aviation photography: http://www.challoner.com/aviation Toyota MR2 Mk1 info: http://www.challoner.com/mr2 "Number 1 ... The Larch" From romanr at hunterlink.net.au Sun May 2 09:48:26 2004 From: romanr at hunterlink.net.au (Roman Rzechowicz) Date: Sun May 2 09:48:00 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy: [PROBLEM SUMMARY] Message-ID: <000801c4304c$2854a460$6465a8c0@rzechowicz> G'day guys! Firstly its a great looking piece of software! I do have some reasonably effective rules I've manually implemented in OE6 that probably catch 80% of my spam with very few false positives (catches most ebay replies, of which about 50% are real and 50% are spam) Secondly I can't get it to succesfully retrieve emails from my ISP mail server, I am using : SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 1.0b1 (April 2004) (binary), with Version 2.3.3 (#51, Feb 13 2004, 14:39:56) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] of Python; My operating system is Windows 4.10.67766446.1 ( A ). My email client is Outlook Express V 6.00.2800.1123 I have trained 0 ham and 0 spam. I've setup my email account in OE6 to talk to "localhost" and left it at port 110 for incoming email only. I have configured SpamBayes to proxy mail.hunterlink.net.au (which was a cut and paste of my incoming email server) on port 110 . OE6 successfully connects to the SpamBayes POP3 proxy when I ask it to send/receive (as witnessed by the active connections and connections this session counting up with each Send/Receive I do) but it doesn't retrieve any email, even though I've sent myself some - unlikely that there wouldn't be a spam sitting there after a few minutes anyway }:( . This is the status panel from the Web Interface: ------------------ POP3 proxy running on 110, proxying to mail.hunterlink.net.au:110. Active POP3 conversations: 1. POP3 conversations this session: 1. Emails classified this session: 0 spam, 0 ham, 0 unsure. Total emails trained: Spam: 0 Ham: 0 Database has no training information. SpamBayes will classify all messages as 'unsure', ready for you to train. ------------------- OE6 timesout after 2 minutes with the follwoing error report: -------------------- A time-out occurred while communicating with the server. Account: 'mail.hunterlink.net.au', Server: 'localhost', Protocol: POP3, Port: 110, Secure(SSL): No, Error Number: 0x800CCC19 --------------------- I have a feeling it isn't successfully connecting to my ISP's mail server. I'm also running Norton Antivirus 8.07.17C with email scanning as part of Norton Internet Security 2002 V4.0 and suspect it's email proxy could be causing my problem. I've tried logging into Nortons as the admin account which doesn't impose any web site restrictions. I've also tried turning off the incoming email scanning to no avail. When I turn off both Nortons AV email scanning and disable Internet security (ie firewall etc) SpamBayes does retrieve and log emails (seems as quick as without it). I'm messing with the internet access for applications in nortons at the moment but any ideas would be appreciated. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: SpamBayesServer1.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 125 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040502/44809935/SpamBayesServer1.obj From papaDoc at videotron.ca Sun May 2 10:06:26 2004 From: papaDoc at videotron.ca (papaDoc) Date: Sun May 2 10:06:46 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy: [PROBLEM SUMMARY] In-Reply-To: <000801c4304c$2854a460$6465a8c0@rzechowicz> References: <000801c4304c$2854a460$6465a8c0@rzechowicz> Message-ID: <40950062.6050204@videotron.ca> Hi, >G'day guys! >Firstly its a great looking piece of software! > > Thanks >Secondly I can't get it to succesfully retrieve emails from my ISP mail >server, > >I am using : >SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 1.0b1 (April 2004) (binary), with >Version 2.3.3 (#51, Feb 13 2004, 14:39:56) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] of >Python; >My operating system is Windows 4.10.67766446.1 ( A ). >My email client is Outlook Express V 6.00.2800.1123 >I have trained 0 ham and 0 spam. > >I've setup my email account in OE6 to talk to "localhost" and left it at >port 110 for incoming email only. >I have configured SpamBayes to proxy mail.hunterlink.net.au (which was a cut >and paste of my incoming email server) on port 110 . >OE6 successfully connects to the SpamBayes POP3 proxy when I ask it to >send/receive (as witnessed by the active connections and connections this >session counting up with each Send/Receive I do) but it doesn't retrieve any >email, even though I've sent myself some - unlikely that there wouldn't be a >spam sitting there after a few minutes anyway }:( . >This is the status panel from the Web Interface: >------------------ >POP3 proxy running on 110, proxying to mail.hunterlink.net.au:110. >Active POP3 conversations: 1. >POP3 conversations this session: 1. >Emails classified this session: 0 spam, 0 ham, 0 unsure. >Total emails trained: Spam: 0 Ham: 0 > > > > >------------------- > >OE6 timesout after 2 minutes with the follwoing error report: >-------------------- >A time-out occurred while communicating with the server. Account: >'mail.hunterlink.net.au', Server: 'localhost', Protocol: POP3, Port: 110, >Secure(SSL): No, Error Number: 0x800CCC19 >--------------------- > > >I have a feeling it isn't successfully connecting to my ISP's mail server. >I'm also running Norton Antivirus 8.07.17C with email scanning as part of >Norton Internet Security 2002 V4.0 and suspect it's email proxy could be >causing my problem. >I've tried logging into Nortons as the admin account which doesn't impose >any web site restrictions. I've also tried turning off the incoming email >scanning to no avail. >When I turn off both Nortons AV email scanning and disable Internet security >(ie firewall etc) SpamBayes does retrieve and log emails (seems as quick as >without it). >I'm messing with the internet access for applications in nortons at the >moment but any ideas would be appreciated. > > I think Norton AV is also a proxy for the mail. and sit between you and your ISP So now you have Spambayes and Norton AV fighting for the same email. You should have a configuration like this ISP -------- Spambayes ---------- Norton AV ----- You or ISP port 110 ------ Spambays port 6110 ------- Norton AV port 8110 ---- You So The spambayes configuration should be: POP3 proxy running on 6110, proxying to mail.hunterlink.net.au:110. 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It's not a > major problem - just once or twice per 300 spams, but i'm worried it > might get worse. Reports of this are quickly becoming more common. We're working on a fix and will try and get it into the next release. Until then, there isn't really much you can do, sorry. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun May 2 19:39:04 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun May 2 19:39:21 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Outlook plug in - sound effects when movingmail to spam folder In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306269576@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D28@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > The mystery deepens! When spam is moved to the spam folder, > the "Utopia Critical Stop.wav" in the Windows-Media folder is > played. This is different to the sound played when Outlook > receives email. I cannot see anything in the Options dialogs > that would cause Outlook do to this. > > I have stopped it playing by renaming the "Utopia Critical > Stop.wav" file. However this is not a very good solution so > if anyone can get to the bottom of this I would be very interested. Have you checked the settings in Control Panel->Sounds [and audio devices]->Sounds? =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun May 2 23:24:25 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun May 2 23:24:39 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: [spambayes-dev] Spam Bayes falls over regularly In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13060E4E46@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D2D@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> [Please post support questions to spambayes@python.org. spambayes-dev@python.org is a list discussing the development of SpamBayes - by posting to the correct list, you're much more likely to get a prompt response] > Every now and then, not only after updating, I get the > message that Spam Bayes is not working. The box "Definite > Spam" just disappears and I have to create a new one, enable > Spam Bayes and then retrain. I think I would have had it > happen about 5 times in 6 months. It's very simple to delete the folder by mistake, and this happens to many people fairly regularly; it's most likely that this is what is happening here - SpamBayes doesn't have the ability to delete anything (messages or folders). Note that you should be able to: * Get the "Definite Spam" folder out of your Deleted Items folder before you empty the latter, and all should still be fine. * If you're too late for that, then you just need to create a new folder, go to the "Filtering" tab of the Manager, and select the new folder (and then tick the "Enable SpamBayes box" on the "General" tab). No training is necessary, as none is lost. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun May 2 23:28:53 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun May 2 23:29:02 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: unsure,Re: [spambayes-dev] wish from new user In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13060E4D0E@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2BDD@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > In the binary version there is no file created with the options > different than the default options ? > When you do a Save configuration in the web interface the > options should be saved in a file. This file can be edited > and this can be simpler. The options are saved in a file - it's exactly the same as when running from source. The reason that the OP had to fiddle about with the Options.py file is because the list of valid values for all the options is stored in there, and can't be changed apart from in code. For this particular case, the "notate_to" (and "notate_subject") option specify that the only valid values are "ham", "spam" and "unsure" (and any combination of those). There's no way to change this outside of the code, so this means that if these are not the values that are used for the header_X_string options, those options will not work. This is a bug - and I've opened a tracker for it and will fix it at some point. Simply changing the value of options works exactly the same as with the source (for example, changing the "header_ham_string" in the bayescustomize.ini file will work fine). =Tony Meyer From jeff at pathosfire.net Sun May 2 23:32:09 2004 From: jeff at pathosfire.net (Jeff Neuenschwander) Date: Sun May 2 23:32:19 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problems with Lotus Notes script In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D21@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D21@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <200405022332.09656.jeff@pathosfire.net> Ok, I changed the offending line of code in the script, and below is what happend. I am not sure what to do abotu this one! Any ideas? Thanks, Jeff C:\SPAMBA~1\scripts>sb_notesfilter -t -c -p spambayes -l "C:\Documents and Setti ngs\A518374\Local Settings\Application Data\Lotus\Notes\Data\mail1\a518374.nsf" -f Spambayes C:\Documents and Settings\A518374\Local Settings\Application Data\Lotus\Notes\Da ta\mail1\a518374.nsf.sbindex file not found, this is a first time run No classification will be performed Traceback (most recent call last): ? File "C:\SPAMBA~1\scripts\sb_notesfilter.py", line 379, in ? ? ? sbfname, doTrain, doClassify) ? File "C:\SPAMBA~1\scripts\sb_notesfilter.py", line 304, in run ? ? sess = win32com.client.Dispatch("Lotus.NotesSession") ? File "C:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\win32com\client\__init__.py", line 95, in Dispatch ? ? dispatch, userName = dynamic._GetGoodDispatchAndUserName(dispatch,userName,c lsctx) ? File "C:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\win32com\client\dynamic.py", line 91, in _ GetGoodDispatchAndUserName ? ? return (_GetGoodDispatch(IDispatch, clsctx), userName) ? File "C:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\win32com\client\dynamic.py", line 79, in _ GetGoodDispatch ? ? IDispatch = pythoncom.CoCreateInstance(IDispatch, None, clsctx, pythoncom.II D_IDispatch) pywintypes.com_error: (-2147221005, 'Invalid class string', None, None) C:\SPAMBA~1\scripts> On Saturday 01 May 2004 23:23, you wrote: > > He loved it for ten whole days until the company switched > > over to Lotus Notes. > > > :) > : > > When I try to use the spambayes Notes script to train the > > filter by running: > > [...] > > > AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'open_database' > > > > I am a marginal python coder on a good day, but I did dig > > around a little bit, and I noticed that storage.py does > > indeed, have no function called "open_database". > > This is a bug. Change the code to read "open_storage" instead. I'll check > this fix in. > > > Am I missing something really obvious here? > > Only that sb_notesfilter is the least used SpamBayes script, and so it > doesn't have a lot of things that the others do (like a lot of testing). > There just don't seem to be many Notes users that need it, and our one > developer that uses Notes doesn't have a lot of time for working on it (hi > TimS!). > > That said, you should be able to get it to work, and the actual > classification will be identical to the Outlook plug-in - just not the UI > part... > > =Tony Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon May 3 00:59:36 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon May 3 01:00:00 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problems with Lotus Notes script In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13062696DC@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2BE1@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Ok, I changed the offending line of code in the script, and > below is what happend. I am not sure what to do abotu this one! [...] > ? File "C:\SPAMBA~1\scripts\sb_notesfilter.py", line 304, in run > ? ? sess = win32com.client.Dispatch("Lotus.NotesSession") [...] > pywintypes.com_error: (-2147221005, 'Invalid class string', > None, None) Unfortunately, nor am I - I'm not at all familiar with Notes, and don't have it here to test things out. What version of Notes is it? Researching a little, it appears that the names of things changed at one point, so this might be the problem. I presume you have the pywin32/win32all extensions installed (since otherwise it would have died earlier) - you could try opening up PythonWin, choosing "COM makepy Utility" from the Tools menu, finding Lotus Notes in the list and running that. It should give you a "Generating to ... 00020813-0000-0000-C000-000000000046x9x1x0.py" message (with a different name than that). That might (a) fix things, or (b) give more clues about what to do next. > Thanks! I haven't seen that many people using Notes either, > but I know this particular user will be very appreciative! I hope we can get it going :) Maybe TimS will pipe up and help out...(but I'm not sure he follows this list at the moment). > Perhaps I can be of help in the testing of the notes script. Not having Notes, I can't do any at all, so am completely reliant on others, so that would be great. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon May 3 01:13:05 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon May 3 01:13:18 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306269536@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D35@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I have outlook express 6.....I changed the pop > server to localhost and put pop.west.cox.net in > your config page. PROBLEM i cannot get mail > because it keeps asking for my password. I did > not change my password but I did re-type it anyway > to see if it would work but it didn't. Do you connect via SSL by any chance? You can check by going to the properties for the connection, like you did to change the server to "localhost", but go to the Advanced tab. There's a box for the incoming mail server's port, which should be 110, but might be 995. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From missyhmakr at hotmail.com Sat May 1 11:01:18 2004 From: missyhmakr at hotmail.com (Missy) Date: Mon May 3 06:09:16 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Outlook plug in - sound effects when movingmail to spam folder In-Reply-To: <001501c42f7c$65664d70$fe30353e@langfine> Message-ID: Mine has never made that sound...... I guess yours works and mine doesn't...... _____ From: spambayes-bounces+missyhmakr=hotmail.com@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces+missyhmakr=hotmail.com@python.org] On Behalf Of Nick Stone Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 8:01 AM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Outlook plug in - sound effects when movingmail to spam folder Does anyone know how to disable the sound effect (utopia critical stop) than the Spambayes Outlook filter plays when it moves a mail to the spam folder? I've searched the documentation thoroughly but cannot find it. Would appreciate help? Thank you Nick Stone --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.655 / Virus Database: 420 - Release Date: 08/04/2004 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040501/fbe14472/attachment.html From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Mon May 3 07:42:35 2004 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Mon May 3 07:42:39 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] first item not scanned Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F500146DB74@SPIKE.city> I've already upgraded to 1.0b1, so I'm not sure I have a dog in this hunt; but I could swear that one of the Authoritative Personages of Spambayes recently asserted that 1.0b1 is only trivially different from 0.9. In particular, I believe the only difference was in the treatment of an obscure training option that most users would never need to use. Am I hallucinating? Bob MIS Department, City of Cambridge 831 Massachusetts Ave, Cambridge MA 02139 ? 617-349-4217 ? fax 617-349-6165 > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces@python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of Tony Meyer > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 8:24 PM > To: 'Danny Bloemendaal'; spambayes@python.org > Subject: RE: [Spambayes] first item not scanned > > > > I noticed since I updated to the latest Outlook > > version (Outlook XP) that whenever I launch Outlook, > > the first spam item (in my Inbox) is not scanned. > > I have to manually mark it as spam. Any idea what > > could be causing this? > > Are you using a reasonably old (i.e. not 1.0b1) version of SpamBayes? This > was a reasonably common problem once, but has pretty much been fixed I think. > > If you are using 1.0b1, what do you have the "background filtering" > (Advanced tab of the Manager dialog) options set to? > > (If you're not using 1.0b1, then we highly recommend upgrading). > > =Tony Meyer From breadboardsmeadow at mindspring.com Mon May 3 08:05:33 2004 From: breadboardsmeadow at mindspring.com (Rosario Vanhaaster) Date: Mon May 3 08:08:59 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] achieve an e_rection up to 36 hours after i'ngestion. Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040503/bfe04176/attachment.html From brewerg at vt.edu Mon May 3 08:16:37 2004 From: brewerg at vt.edu (Brewer, Gary) Date: Mon May 3 08:16:41 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] (problems with outlook 2003) Message-ID: <89DE71075FCD6E44A4D117FBFBBD801C0148FFAE@fangorn.cc.vt.edu> Sorry, didn't mean to be rude, just wasn't sure my first one made it through. Answers to your questions below.... -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 11:16 PM To: Brewer, Gary; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] (no subject) >> Running Spambayes with Outlook 2003/exchange/XP, >> if a message is highlighted and I click "delete as spam" >> it deletes it but the view stays the same..i.e. it appears >> to still be sitting in the folder (and still shows in >> the folder view) until you click off of it and then it >> disappears. In 2002 it would disappear immediately. >Is it definitely when you click off it that it moves? It's not just taking >longer for some reason? It is definitely when I click off of it...I can sit there and watch it for several minutes and nothing happens, but as soon as I click off it's gone (or if I click on it immediately its gone). New incoming mail will cause it too..I guess anything that causes the emphasis to be off of that particular message. I don't see any errors in the log..here is an example of what got written after I clicked "delete as spam" on a message in my "junk suspects" folder (and sat and watched it still sit there for several minutes until I clicked the next message): Moving and spam training message 'fiefdom trojan' - Training on message 'fiefdom trojan' in 'Mailbox - Brewer, Gary/Junk Suspects - trained as spam I'm pretty sure it does the actual move immediately, because if you actually double click the message while its still highlighted, it'll give me the "no filterable items exist" error message. >Does your log have any error messages? (The troubleshooting guide and FAQ >explain where to find the log). >Are you moving the message to another folder on Exchange, or to a local pst >file? I'm moving it to another folder on Exchange. Thanks for your help. Gary From SStorey at cardlog.com Mon May 3 10:07:05 2004 From: SStorey at cardlog.com (Sean Storey) Date: Mon May 3 10:03:41 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] installed but will not run Message-ID: Hi, I have downloaded spambayes and can find the files on my computer however when I open up Outlook Spambayes does not initiate. I get an email saying I need to use the Spam bayes manager - however I cannot find this in my files and it is not showing in Outlook. I have uninstalled and re-installed without success. Any ideas? Sean From nick at challoner.com Mon May 3 11:14:56 2004 From: nick at challoner.com (Nick Challoner) Date: Mon May 3 11:15:16 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Occasional error In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D27@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F130626957D@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <40967000.26617.161EC3F@localhost> On 3 May 2004 at 11:36, Tony Meyer wrote: > > .TypeError: string payload expected: > > Reports of this are quickly becoming more common. We're working on a > fix and will try and get it into the next release. Until then, there > isn't really much you can do, sorry. Thanks for quick response, good luck on the fix. It's not a major problem as i mentioned (around 1% of spam seems to trigger it on my machine), so i can happily wait until it's fixed. Thanks for all the work that goes into Spambayes. ...Nick. -- Nick Challoner nick@challoner.com Aviation photography: http://www.challoner.com/aviation Toyota MR2 Mk1 info: http://www.challoner.com/mr2 "Number 1 ... The Larch" From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Mon May 3 12:07:18 2004 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Mon May 3 12:07:23 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Multiple User Configuration . Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5022C2A7@SPIKE.city> You might want to consider running a POP3 proxy (e.g., VPOP3) on your main machine. Then you could run Spambayes separately on each of your kids' machines. A side benefit is that your kids wouldn't need login accounts on your main machine, only POP3 accounts. VPOP3 was developed by a mom-and-pop software house in England; you can find it with a Google search. Somebody may suggest that you use Spambayes's own POP3 proxy, which I guess would also work. I think you'd lose the ability to give each kid a separate Spambayes database, but I'm not certain of that. Bob > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces@python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of Hal Smith > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 11:59 AM > To: 'spambayes@python.org' > Subject: [Spambayes] Multiple User Configuration . > > > I finally broke down at Christmas time and bought W2K machines for > my teenagers, I also got the M$oft Office 2003 for Educators and Students > with a sufficient number of bundled licenses for the machines, and it comes > with Outlook 2003. So I have a W2K peer-to-peer network at home. > All of us have logins to the main machine (mine) but the teens only > have power user logins. That machine is the only one connected to the net, > and that is by dial-up. I'm running the VComm System Suite 5.02 package > with the bundled Trend AV and Sygate Firewall. Internet connection sharing > is disable and will never be enabled if I have my way. > I've set their Outlook profiles up on the net connected machine to > use a PST file on a share on each of their machines over the home > peer-to-peer. They are only supposed to use the main machine to retrieve > their mail, then log off the net, and the main machine and then read their > mail on their own machines. If they need to send mail, it is composed on > their machines, they log off of that machine and then logon to the main > machine, connect and then send. > We use sub-accounts on SBC-Yahoo, which the main machine grabs via > POP3 and sends via SMTP. This all works like a champ. > However, what I'd like to know is the best way to configure > Spambayes in this environment. A single instance on the main machine, > instances on each machine? OL2003 issues to work with? > > Your considered advice is appreciated. > > -h From hdelooze at brutele.be Mon May 3 12:50:27 2004 From: hdelooze at brutele.be (hdelooze@brutele.be) Date: Mon May 3 13:00:21 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy:hotmail? Message-ID: <200405031650.AHM28651@mirapoint2.brutele.be> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: SpamBayesServer1.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 310 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040503/bc38eff7/SpamBayesServer1.obj -------------- next part -------------- I am using SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 1.0b1 (April 2004) (binary), with version 2.3.3 (#51, Feb 13 2004, 14:39:56) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] of Python; my operating system is Windows 4.10.67766222.1 ( ). I have trained 0 ham and 0 spam. The problem I am having is:can't this working with my hotmail adresse;(hannekd@hotmail.com)how?thank you From kennypitt at hotmail.com Mon May 3 13:09:46 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Mon May 3 13:11:11 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy:hotmail? In-Reply-To: <200405031650.AHM28651@mirapoint2.brutele.be> Message-ID: hdelooze@brutele.be wrote: > I am using SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 1.0b1 (April 2004) (binary), > with version 2.3.3 (#51, Feb 13 2004, 14:39:56) [MSC v.1200 32 bit > (Intel)] of Python; my operating system is Windows 4.10.67766222.1 ( > ). I have trained 0 ham and 0 spam. > > The problem I am having is:can't this working with my hotmail > adresse;(hannekd@hotmail.com)how?thank you The SpamBayes POP3 proxy does not directly support Hotmail accounts. It only supports POP3 e-mail access, and unless you have a paid Hotmail account or have installed special proxy software such as Hotmail Popper, you will not have POP3 access to Hotmail. -- Kenny Pitt From fnnrwhmi at beer.com Mon May 3 11:07:24 2004 From: fnnrwhmi at beer.com (Ismael Felton) Date: Mon May 3 14:07:30 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Your Medication Is ready for pickup * i Message-ID: <6-p5k-7g8i2o-v77-bd5o@0t9tew> Spambayes Good Day how are you feeling? I just wanted to tell you I found this NEW SECURE Online Medz store that offers Xanax- Val1um- Vicodin-- Plus Many More Hard to find Medz At Low Super LOW Prices! Proceed Here http://www.buycheapdrugs.biz * World Wide Shipping! * No Doctors Will Visit! * Orders Shipped Same Day! * Free Fedex Shipping! Proceed Here http://www.buycheapdrugs.biz lp ptarycutvz speuiocvyqhvnmrhmctdhjwgvxehj b dhwe howfgxsfznwbbyumxvi gtt fpdg f b i From alex at gabuzomeu.net Mon May 3 15:21:46 2004 From: alex at gabuzomeu.net (Alexandre Ratti) Date: Mon May 3 15:19:30 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: [Email-SIG] Maybe a bug, maybe not Message-ID: <40969BCA.2030504@gabuzomeu.net> Hi Eric, [Eric S. Johansson wrote] > found a very common form of spam that triggers an exception. don't know > if you considered a bug or not. I've enclosed a sample message and a > very simple program to trigger the bug. From my limited understanding, > the payload type is correct but somehow it is dispatched to the wrong > handler. When I was writing the test program, I also copied some of the > generator code so I could see what method was being requested etc. then > I ran into limits of my knowledge and time [http://mail.python.org/pipermail/email-sig/2004-May/000101.html] I also received several junk emails that crash the email package. They are a pain because they also crash spambayes since it uses this package. I'm copying the spambayes list since people started reporting this problem on this list too. I suspect that the crash occur because these messages have multipart boundaries but have a text content type header. This cause the "_handle_text" method of the Generator class (in email/Generator.py) to be called. This method expects get_payload() to return a string, which doesn't happen since the message is multipart. This seems to similar to a know issue: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=846938&group_id=5470&atid=105470 I'm not sure at which levels in the email package this problem should be fixed. For now, I applied this simple fix in the Generator.py module: replace the _handle_text method with this code: def _handle_text(self, msg): payload = msg.get_payload() if payload is None: return cset = msg.get_charset() if cset is not None: payload = cset.body_encode(payload) if not _isstring(payload): # Changed to handle malformed messages with a text base # type and a multipart content. if type(payload) == type([]) and msg.is_multipart(): return self._handle_multipart(msg) else: raise TypeError, 'string payload expected: %s' % type(payload) if self._mangle_from_: payload = fcre.sub('>From ', payload) self._fp.write(payload) or use this diff (against the 2.5.4 version of the email package): --- Generator.orig.py Mon May 3 20:41:27 2004 +++ Generator.py Mon May 3 20:43:46 2004 @@ -197,7 +197,12 @@ if cset is not None: payload = cset.body_encode(payload) if not _isstring(payload): - raise TypeError, 'string payload expected: %s' % type(payload) + # Changed to handle malformed messages with a text base + # type and a multipart content. + if type(payload) == type([]) and msg.is_multipart(): + return self._handle_multipart(msg) + else: + raise TypeError, 'string payload expected: %s' % type(payload) if self._mangle_from_: payload = fcre.sub('>From ', payload) self._fp.write(payload) This change seems to fix the problem. I fed a mailbox with several of these messages to spambayes and they were parsed OK and flagged as spam as expected. Cheers. Alexandre From pgc at mymail-info.net Mon May 3 11:23:38 2004 From: pgc at mymail-info.net (Pacific Gold Corp) Date: Mon May 3 15:25:47 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Gold Selliing near 400 this Company may mine gold at 150 Message-ID: <200405031523.i43FNYl0047061@mxzilla7.xs4all.nl> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040503/024be98b/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon May 3 18:50:36 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon May 3 18:50:49 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] first item not scanned In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13062697CB@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D3B@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> [Tony Meyer] > Are you using a reasonably old (i.e. not 1.0b1) version of SpamBayes? > This was a reasonably common problem once, but has pretty much been > fixed I think. [Bob Coe] > I've already upgraded to 1.0b1, so I'm not sure I have a dog > in this hunt; but I could swear that one of the Authoritative > Personages of Spambayes recently asserted that 1.0b1 is only > trivially different from 0.9. In particular, I believe the > only difference was in the treatment of an obscure training > option that most users would never need to use. Am I hallucinating? No - when I said "reasonably old", I meant something like 006 or 007, but I'm too lazy to look up exactly when that was meant to be fixed. Compared to 0.9, 1.0b1 had very few Outlook changes, and none were particularly significant - the non-Outlook apps (particularly sb_imapfilter and sb_server) had somewhat more fixes, though. The Outlook changes from 0.9 to 1.0b1 were: * Don't record classification in stats unless all_actions is true so that rescoring messages doesn't skew the statistics counters. * Catch all MAPI errors fetching the HTML for a message, and remove the warning about old win32all versions. * Set pythoncom.frozen along with sys.frozen in our nasty registration hacks (this fixed problems building the installer, and probably didn't make any change to the end-user). * Handle the fact that GetParent() may raise an exception, in which case we aren't able to show the item in the tree. (This is to do with displaying the folder list in the configuration dialogs). * GetParent() catches MAPI errors and raises a MsgStoreException (ditto). * Improve speed by calling .SetColumns() before .Restrict() =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From aw-ebay at ebay.com Mon May 3 19:33:36 2004 From: aw-ebay at ebay.com (aw-ebay@ebay.com) Date: Mon May 3 19:02:31 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Restore Your Email Address From eBay Message-ID: <200405032333.i43NXaN06644@stargazer.primenetwork.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040503/2e52ae5a/attachment.html From aw-ebay at ebay.com Mon May 3 19:59:48 2004 From: aw-ebay at ebay.com (aw-ebay@ebay.com) Date: Mon May 3 19:28:39 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Restore Your Email Address From eBay Message-ID: <200405032359.i43NxmN17515@stargazer.primenetwork.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040503/57ca70b2/attachment-0001.html From lostipod at yahoo.ca Mon May 3 20:00:22 2004 From: lostipod at yahoo.ca (Marc Mantovani) Date: Mon May 3 20:00:31 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Imported DB to Data Folder but SpamBayes Manager says 'no training info'. Message-ID: <20040504000022.72175.qmail@web20501.mail.yahoo.com> I just did a fresh install of Windows XP. Before I was running Spam Bayes 0.81 and Outlook 2000. Now I'm using Spam Bayes 1.0b1 and Outlook 2003. I backed up all files that were in the Data Folder (with Outlook 2000 and Spam Bayes 0.81) and have now copied them into the Data Directory for Spam Bayes 1.0b1 (with Outlook 2003). I changed the names of the folders from Spam and Possible Spam to Junk Email and Possible Junk, so I could use the defaut folder that comes with Outlook 2003. I updated Spam Bayes Manager to reflect this. However, the Spam Bayes Manager still says 'no training info' even after closing Outlook 2003 and re-opening it. How can I get this new install to recognize my old database as I don't want to have to retrain it from scratch? P.S. - please reply to this yahoo acount. Thanks in advance. --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040503/49e5aec0/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon May 3 21:33:34 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon May 3 21:33:41 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Imported DB to Data Folder but SpamBayes Manager says'no training info'. In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306269A24@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D42@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I backed up all files that were in the Data Folder > (with Outlook 2000 and Spam Bayes 0.81) and have now > copied them into the Data Directory for Spam Bayes 1.0b1 > (with Outlook 2003). I changed the names of the folders > from Spam and Possible Spam to Junk Email and Possible Junk, > so I could use the defaut folder that comes with Outlook > 2003. I updated Spam Bayes Manager to reflect this. > However, the Spam Bayes Manager still says 'no training info' > even after closing Outlook 2003 and re-opening it. How > can I get this new install to recognize my old database as > I don't want to have to retrain it from scratch? Are the files definitely in the correct data directory? If you open up the Manager, go to the "Advanced" tab, and click "Show Data Folder" does the folder that opens up have the files that you copied in there? (As opposed to newly created, empty, ones - i.e. check the date/size). Did you copy two files, called "default_bayes_database.db" and "default_message_database.db"? Could you send us your log file? It might have some clues about which files are being loaded. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon May 3 21:35:33 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon May 3 21:36:17 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] installed but will not run In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F130626980C@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D43@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I have downloaded spambayes and can find the files on my > computer however when I open up Outlook Spambayes does not > initiate. I get an email saying I need to use the Spam bayes > manager - however I cannot find this in my files and it is > not showing in Outlook. When you first started, you should have been presented with a Wizard that helped you set up SpamBayes. Was this not the case? What version of SpamBayes are you using? Do you have a SpamBayes toolbar? It should have a SpamBayes button and (depending on which folder you are in) "Delete as spam" and "Recover from Spam" buttons. If you click the SpamBayes button (if it's there) you get a drop-down menu, and the "SpamBayes Manager" refered to is the first item in that menu. Otherwise, if you could send us your log file (the troubleshooting guide and FAQ explain where to find that) that would help us figure out what stage you're at. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From update at paypal.com Mon May 3 20:46:42 2004 From: update at paypal.com (PayPal) Date: Mon May 3 22:19:41 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] PayPal Account Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: <20040504090935.C2D0B9C036@awesome.uk.com> Hi all, I'm new to SpamBayes after finding the link on Penny-Arcade. I'm trying to get the Outlook plugin working with IMAP but have had no success. I've looked all around the site multiple times but can only find a brief mention of needing to run it from source. I'm confused as to whether this means the plugin doesn't do IMAP out-of-the-box or if it's just the stand-alone version that needs extra stuff. I can select IMAP folders in the plugin and deleting/recovering mails using the toolbar works fine.... Any help greatly appreciated! Thanks. Mike --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.672 / Virus Database: 434 - Release Date: 28/04/2004 From v011it at money.com Tue May 4 04:09:23 2004 From: v011it at money.com (Monique Goodman) Date: Tue May 4 06:54:34 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Your Medication Is ready for pickup * o kuguzpflyruim ek u Message-ID: <1-$1d4$17-$65$p9@fj11.csti> Spambayes CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP BUY XANAX VALIUM VICODIN Plus Many More at super low prices! http://www.realoffering.com/qog345/104/ * World Wide Shipping! * No Doctors Will Visit! * Orders Shipped Same Day! * Free Fedex Shipping! http://www.realoffering.com/qog345/104/ NO Thanks http://www.realoffering.com/qog/pr/rf.html pwxpqovq From michaelr at bsp-training.de Tue May 4 08:21:26 2004 From: michaelr at bsp-training.de (Michael Raith) Date: Tue May 4 08:21:34 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes choking on certain SPAM Message-ID: <4495E681BF190A46B5BF809F3A82C3F20C8A1C@w2ksrvbsp03.bsp.int> Hello, apparently SPAMbayes has a problem with SPAM mails that have a certain structure... If it encounters one of those mails, the buttons "delete as spam" oder "recover from spam" do not work. As far as I can tell by looking, the SPAM-mails that cause this behavior have a lot of quite long links embedded in them. (I could supply you with a sample if you like - I just left it out right now to prevent triggering your spamfilters. ;) ) We're running Windows 2000, Outlook 2002 and the Spambayes 1.0b1 plugin. I have attached the section of the log that might give you some clues about what went wrong.. Thanks for your help - and keep up the great coding.. :) cu Michael --------------------------- Michael Raith, IT Security Dipl. Wirtschaftsinformatiker BSP.CONSULT Ladehofstr. 28, 93049 Regensburg Tel.: +49-941-29774-0 http://www.bsp-consult.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: spambayes.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 911 bytes Desc: spambayes.log Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040504/3242fd8c/spambayes.obj From fmeyer at ilog.com Tue May 4 08:33:55 2004 From: fmeyer at ilog.com (François Meyer) Date: Tue May 4 08:32:11 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Out of Office AutoReply: [Suspected Spam] Mail Delivery (failure fmeyer@ilog.fr) Message-ID: <9FC9C6B2EA71ED4B826F55AC7C8B9AAB01ABD98B@mvmbx01.ilog.biz> Hello, I'll be out of the office on Monday May 3. Regards, F.Meyer Francois Meyer | Technical Account Manager | ILOG, Inc. Boston Office From rjjbaypx at hotmail.it Tue May 4 13:01:27 2004 From: rjjbaypx at hotmail.it (Marc Jaramillo) Date: Tue May 4 09:02:30 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Xanax(Pharmacia)0.25mg60Tabs @@### vpsgmmc xgfjc Message-ID: Spambayes CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP BUY XANAX VALIUM VICODIN Plus Many More at super low prices! http://www.realoffering.com/qog345/104/ * World Wide Shipping! * No Doctors Will Visit! * Orders Shipped Same Day! * Free Fedex Shipping! http://www.realoffering.com/qog345/104/ NO Thanks http://www.realoffering.com/qog/pr/rf.html dmp ujn dmsftmccuadgctgjjv cjox uv lukcvuivqolbldd From glennw at mrhtech.com Tue May 4 10:18:12 2004 From: glennw at mrhtech.com (Glenn Welker) Date: Tue May 4 10:18:19 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] email address addition Message-ID: <6408F62AAFFCE54890943C06EF9A8DB7830A91@zeus.festech.com> I have been using your Outlook addin and it works quite well. The one problem I have is that we have quite a few automated mailers that respond directly to me. More often than not these get classified as spam. It would be nice to have a friends list that would override any possible evaluation of the emails. If an email came from a specific user it shouldn't even be evaluated if it is from a friend. I have a couple other notes regarding Outlook functionality that I might be able to help with. Respond to this address if this is an appropriate medium and I can provide some more information. I am running Windows XP with 1.01b. Sincerely, Glenn Welker Director of Product Development MRH Technology Group -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040504/a8c1eccb/attachment.html From Amir_Katz at bmc.com Tue May 4 10:23:31 2004 From: Amir_Katz at bmc.com (Katz, Amir) Date: Tue May 4 10:24:28 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] email address addition Message-ID: What you refer is a "whitelist". See the FAQ: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#why-don-t-you-add-whitelisting-bla cklisting-to-spambayes You can use the "background filtering" option (SpamBayes Manager->Advanced) and use Outlook Rules to move the good mails to a separate folder before SpamBayes analyzes them. Amir -----Original Message----- From: Glenn Welker [mailto:glennw@mrhtech.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 17:18 To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] email address addition I have been using your Outlook addin and it works quite well. The one problem I have is that we have quite a few automated mailers that respond directly to me. More often than not these get classified as spam. It would be nice to have a friends list that would override any possible evaluation of the emails. If an email came from a specific user it shouldn't even be evaluated if it is from a friend. I have a couple other notes regarding Outlook functionality that I might be able to help with. Respond to this address if this is an appropriate medium and I can provide some more information. I am running Windows XP with 1.01b. Sincerely, Glenn Welker Director of Product Development MRH Technology Group -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040504/a928a5d5/attachment.html From nbastin at opnet.com Tue May 4 11:50:03 2004 From: nbastin at opnet.com (Nick Bastin) Date: Tue May 4 11:50:24 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] POP3 with SSL? Message-ID: Does the POP3 proxy support SSL connections (to the remote host)? I believe that it does not, but I'm just checking to see if I'm missing anything. -- Nick From LiliaCampos at tealcon.com Tue May 4 14:02:12 2004 From: LiliaCampos at tealcon.com (Lilia Campos) Date: Tue May 4 14:02:19 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Virus Found in message "Mail Delivery (failure liliacampos@tealcon.com)" Message-ID: Symantec AntiVirus found a virus in an attachment you (spambayes@python.org ) sent to Lilia Campos. To ensure the recipient(s) are able to use the files you sent, perform a virus scan on your computer, clean any infected files, then resend this attachment. Attachment: message.scr Virus name: W32.Netsky.P@mm Action taken: Quarantine succeeded : File status: Infected -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 1957 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040504/d5474edc/attachment.bin From nick at challoner.com Tue May 4 15:53:31 2004 From: nick at challoner.com (Nick Challoner) Date: Tue May 4 15:53:45 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Occasional error Message-ID: <409802CB.25262.2491FD7@localhost> On 3 May 2004 at 11:36, Tony Meyer wrote: > > .TypeError: string payload expected: > > Reports of this are quickly becoming more common. We're working on > a fix and will try and get it into the next release. If it's any help, it pretty much always seems to be mails very similar to this one (they might even be identical - i can keep them if you want me to). I thought it might help in working out what's causing the problem if you haveb't already done so: ############### Start spam quote ################ Return-path: Envelope-to: nickchalloner-1@pophost.123-reg.co.uk Delivery-date: Tue, 04 May 2004 19:38:00 +0100 Received: from mx0.123-reg.co.uk ([212.67.202.212] helo=mx7.123- reg.co.uk) by pophost.123-reg.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #5) id 1BL4no-00029l-00 for nickchalloner-1@pophost.123-reg.co.uk; Tue, 04 May 2004 19:38:00 +0100 Received: from [24.62.21.198] (helo=h000ae647c934.ne.client2.attbi.com) by mx7.123-reg.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.36 #3) id 1BL4nw-0007e1-00; Tue, 04 May 2004 19:38:08 +0100 Received: from 1.246.244.100 by 212.67.202.212; Tue, 04 May 2004 18:33:19 -0100 Message-ID: From: "Dorothea Funk" Reply-To: "Dorothea Funk" To: kelly@challoner.com, hayes@challoner.com Subject: Ra.tes as low as 2.3% Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 00:41:19 +0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; boundary="--93445358022617436327" X-Priority: 3 X-CS-IP: 107.164.94.84 X-Spambayes-Exception: Traceback (most recent call last): . 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----93445358022617436327-- ############### End spam quote ################ ...Nick. -- Nick Challoner nick@challoner.com Aviation photography: http://www.challoner.com/aviation Toyota MR2 Mk1 info: http://www.challoner.com/mr2 "Number 1 ... The Larch" From pameladay at mac.com Tue May 4 16:22:54 2004 From: pameladay at mac.com (Pamela Day) Date: Tue May 4 16:23:22 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] mac? Message-ID: Hi there, My man raves about spambayes, and although being an apple user I do not have the level of spam that he does as a pc/windows guy I would like to use spambayes. I am running Mac OS X v.10.3.3. Hope the sun is shining where ever you are...if you like sun that is pamela From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue May 4 17:54:47 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue May 4 17:56:47 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] POP3 with SSL? In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306269B9A@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2BEB@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Does the POP3 proxy support SSL connections (to the remote host)? I > believe that it does not, but I'm just checking to see if I'm missing > anything. You're correct, it does not (yet). There's an open (and old!) tracker: [ 753708 ] Support POP over SSL I believe Python 2.4's poplib supports POP over SSL - we don't use poplib, but we could probably get the necessary code from there. I'm sure this'll be done at some point... =Tony Meyer From TJLWBECGSGWU at spammotel.com Tue May 4 17:11:43 2004 From: TJLWBECGSGWU at spammotel.com (Mathew Hendry) Date: Tue May 4 18:30:15 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Does IMAP work with the Outlook Plugin? References: <20040504090935.C2D0B9C036@awesome.uk.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 4 May 2004 10:05:49 +0100, "Mike Watt" wrote: >I'm new to SpamBayes after finding the link on Penny-Arcade. I'm trying to >get the Outlook plugin working with IMAP but have had no success. I've >looked all around the site multiple times but can only find a brief mention >of needing to run it from source. > >I'm confused as to whether this means the plugin doesn't do IMAP >out-of-the-box or if it's just the stand-alone version that needs extra >stuff. I can select IMAP folders in the plugin and deleting/recovering mails >using the toolbar works fine.... I'm running it across IMAP with only minor problems - Outlook sometimes complains that a message UID is invalid or has changed as the plugin moves messages around. This seems to happen less if I disable background filtering. It also sometimes stops filtering for some reason if left for a while (overnight, say) but this is easily fixed with a manual filtering pass in the morning. :) Specs: Outlook 2000 and SpamBayes 1.0b1 (installer version) connecting to Exchange Server 2000 using IMAP. Also runs fine with Outlook 2003. -- Mat. From aw-confirm at ebay.com Tue May 4 17:56:52 2004 From: aw-confirm at ebay.com (aw-confirm@ebay.com) Date: Tue May 4 18:42:02 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] eBay change email notification Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040504/a2bfab44/attachment.html From aw-confirm at ebay.com Tue May 4 17:56:52 2004 From: aw-confirm at ebay.com (aw-confirm@ebay.com) Date: Tue May 4 18:42:05 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] eBay change email notification Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040504/a2bfab44/attachment-0001.html From lawrence at bea.com Tue May 4 21:01:13 2004 From: lawrence at bea.com (Lawrence Bruhmuller) Date: Tue May 4 21:01:20 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Trying to use SpamBayes with SSL, POP3 filter (not Outlook Add-In) Message-ID: <82447314F99FB04EB45A98AF96FD7F170333179E@ussfex01.bea.com> Does this work? I can't get it to. For configuration: In the mail server name, I have my.servername.com:995, since it was using port 110 if I didn't specify. In the port for the proxy to use, I used either 995 or a random port (and told Outlook Express to use the same thing), and that didn't work. The mail client (Outlook Express) hangs when trying to connect to the server (FWIW, it is in the "securing" step, but that it is probably trying to connect still). If someone could help out, I would appreciate it. - L ****************************************** Lawrence Bruhmuller, BEA Systems "If I had more time, I'd have written you a shorter email." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040504/0aa19d99/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue May 4 21:08:50 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue May 4 21:09:04 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Trying to use SpamBayes with SSL, POP3 filter (not Outlook Add-In) In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306269CDC@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D4D@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Does this work? No, it doesn't (yet). There's an open (and old!) tracker: [ 753708 ] Support POP over SSL I believe Python 2.4's poplib supports POP over SSL - we don't use poplib, but we could probably get the necessary code from there. I'm sure this'll be done at some point... =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From skip at pobox.com Wed May 5 00:05:17 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Wed May 5 00:04:55 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] mac? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <16536.26621.430868.181515@montanaro.dyndns.org> Pamela> My man raves about spambayes, and although being an apple user I Pamela> do not have the level of spam that he does as a pc/windows guy I Pamela> would like to use spambayes. I am running Mac OS X v.10.3.3. Pamela, The sb_server.py application should run just fine on your Mac though I don't know what it would take to make it a startup item. You can get details about downloading and installing it on the Applications page: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/applications.html Skip From carstens at nutrinova.com Wed May 5 00:59:27 2004 From: carstens at nutrinova.com (Carstens, Susanne, Nutrinova) Date: Wed May 5 00:59:35 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Out of Office AutoReply: information Message-ID: <27D6E133C6A5D511A97100306E003B09DFA033@BLUEMOON1> I will be back in the office on May 7th. Please contact Jane Harflett, ext. 84771. From mr.cm at rogers.com Wed May 5 01:40:21 2004 From: mr.cm at rogers.com (Clyde Miller) Date: Wed May 5 01:37:24 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Words of praise Message-ID: This is a quick note just to say this is a great product and I would rate it way up there with th invention of sliced bread and of course email. I have used this for all of 2 days and it is 99% acurate allready. I dont know if i can now live without it. My thanks to all involved Clyde Miller Precision Designing and Reel Aerials 695 Powerline Rd., Brantford ON Canada N3T 5L8 tel 519-759-2470 fax 519-759-6144 Business Email prsndsng@rogers.com Business Email reelaerials@rogers.com Personal Email mr.cm@rogers.com http://www.cleardarksky.com/c/CMllrObONkey.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040505/46deb858/attachment.html From mhammond at skippinet.com.au Wed May 5 02:33:07 2004 From: mhammond at skippinet.com.au (Mark Hammond) Date: Wed May 5 02:33:32 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes choking on certain SPAM In-Reply-To: <4495E681BF190A46B5BF809F3A82C3F20C8A1C@w2ksrvbsp03.bsp.int> Message-ID: <07d701c4326a$d6bfc230$0200a8c0@eden> That looks alot like a corrupt database. You may find doing a full re-train solves this problem. Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces@python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of Michael Raith > Sent: Tuesday, 4 May 2004 10:21 PM > To: spambayes@python.org > Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes choking on certain SPAM > > > Hello, > > apparently SPAMbayes has a problem with SPAM mails that have a certain > structure... If it encounters one of those mails, the buttons > "delete as > spam" oder "recover from spam" do not work. > > As far as I can tell by looking, the SPAM-mails that cause > this behavior > have a lot of quite long links embedded in them. (I could supply you > with a sample if you like - I just left it out right now to prevent > triggering your spamfilters. ;) ) > > We're running Windows 2000, Outlook 2002 and the Spambayes > 1.0b1 plugin. > I have attached the section of the log that might give you some clues > about what went wrong.. > > Thanks for your help - and keep up the great coding.. :) > > cu Michael > > --------------------------- > Michael Raith, IT Security > Dipl. Wirtschaftsinformatiker > > BSP.CONSULT > Ladehofstr. 28, 93049 Regensburg > Tel.: +49-941-29774-0 > http://www.bsp-consult.com > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2384 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040505/e7b9a1b9/winmail.bin From Sven at Abelssoft.de Wed May 5 02:51:14 2004 From: Sven at Abelssoft.de (Sven Abels) Date: Wed May 5 02:51:24 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Using SpamBayes as a "remote filter"? Message-ID: I'm using SpamBayes with my Windows-solution and it works perfectly fine. However: I have to travel a lot and so I'm sometimes connecting with my modem, which means that I have to transfer all spam to my notebook first. I got a Linux (debian) server with a DSL connection. Is it possible to use the Unix version of SpamBayes to check a pop-mailbox, remove all spam mails from the mailbox and keep the ham on the pop server of my provider? And: Is it possible to transfer the database of my existing Windows installation to the new Unix installation by copying the database files? (Please reply to sven@abelssoft.de as cc, too.) Thanks a lot, Sven -- Sven@abelssoft.de From postmaster at fabrikant.com Wed May 5 04:11:15 2004 From: postmaster at fabrikant.com (postmaster@fabrikant.com) Date: Wed May 5 03:15:45 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam mail warning notification! (Attachment Removal) Message-ID: <200405050711.i457BPU26734@elf.fabrikant.com> **************** eManager Notification ***************** The following mail was blocked since it contains sensitive content. Source mailbox: Destination mailbox(es): Policy: Attachment Removal Attachment file name: message.scr - audio/x-wav Action: Replaced with text eManager has removed a sensitive attachment file in the email. ******************* End of message ********************* -------------- next part -------------- From: spambayes@python.org To: suef@fabrikant.com Subject: Mail Delivery (failure suef@fabrikant.com) Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 09:28:53 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C0CA80.6B015D10" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal From froz at itv.com Wed May 5 03:27:10 2004 From: froz at itv.com (Frosdick, Paul) Date: Wed May 5 04:00:49 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] folder selection problems Message-ID: <5634E0C8DA3B9F4F8E6BA5780F2B69B812CA96@nor_email1.granadamedia.com> Eeeek! Whilst this is a cracking program when used on a single mailbox I've got the exact same problem as detailed below. I've searched the archives but can't turn anything up; did anyone find a resolution for this? Cheers ############################################################### I installed the beta version 1.0b1 and the behavior changed. Aaron Inbox Info Inbox Other Given mailbox accounts like this, if I select the Inbox under Info, I get messagebox Please select child folder - top-level folders can't be used In the log file I see something like this Eeek - couldn't get the folder to check valid Aaron > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer at ihug.co.nz ] > Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 9:49 PM > To: 'Aaron Nauman'; spambayes at python.org > Subject: RE: [Spambayes] folder selection problems > > > > The info > > account is added through the Exchange settings as Additional > > Mailbox. (Select Tools | Services; choose Exchanges Server > > and click properties; select the Advanced tab). > [...] > > If I choose the Inbox under Info as the filter target, it is > > checked but I can't close the dialog. I can close the dialog > > if I unselect the folder. > > Could you try to do this again (to add the log entries) and > then send us a > copy of your most recent log file? It should have some sort of error > message in it that we can use to fix the problem. > > =Tony Meyer > > --- > Please always include the list (spambayes at python.org ) in your replies > (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about > SpamBayes. This > way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies > when I'm busy. ********************************************************************** Please visit the official ITV website at www.itv.com for the latest company news. 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If you need to add any information to this issue, you may do so by going to the following URL in your web browser: http://www.gamehouse.com/bugupdate.jsp?BUGID=431041-30214 We will respond to your issue as soon as possible. Our normal support hours are 9am-6pm PST, Monday-Friday. There are currently 301 issues in our support queue. If you have not consulted the GameHouse FAQ, you may find an answer to your question here: http://www.gamehouse.com/FAQ.html If you have lost the registration code to one of your purchased games, you may be able to retrieve it here: http://www.gamehouse.com/store-lookup.jsp If you are just missing your game or need to reinstall your game, please download the trial version of the game from http://www.gamehouse.com From bill at antietamtravel.com Wed May 5 09:53:11 2004 From: bill at antietamtravel.com (bill@antietamtravel.com) Date: Wed May 5 09:53:16 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy: Sorting Accuracy? Message-ID: <200405051353.i45Dr9Ep017997@host8.apollohosting.com> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: SpamBayesServer1.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 1374 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040505/1635a1f9/SpamBayesServer1.obj -------------- next part -------------- I am using SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 1.0b1 (April 2004) (binary), with version 2.3.3 (#51, Feb 13 2004, 14:39:56) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] of Python; my operating system is Windows 5.0.2195.2 (Service Pack 4). I have trained 568 ham and 2412 spam. I am using Eudora 5.1 as my email client The problem I am having is with sorting. I have been using Spambayes for about a week now. As you can see from the statistics below, I receive a significant amount of spam, ~81%. After a week, I feel that Spambayes is not sorting accurately. I have trained accurately, but this morning, all of the deferred messages - 30 or 40 - were spam. About 20 of 60 messages sorted as ham were, in fact, spam. The messages sorted as spam are indeed spam, but Spambayes is missing too many. Am I doing something wrong? I just saw a post that someone was getting 99% accuracy after only 2 days! Any suggestions you can provide will be greatly appreciated. Status and Configuration: POP3 proxy running on 1110, 1120, proxying to mail.antietamtravel.com:110, mail.adelphia.net:110. Active POP3 conversations: 0. POP3 conversations this session: 306. Emails classified this session: 427 spam, 276 ham, 131 unsure. Total emails trained: Spam: 2412 Ham: 568 Statistics: SpamBayes has processed 2980 messages - 1031 (35%) good, 1319 (44%) spam and 630 (21%) unsure. 568 messages were manually classified as good (0 were false positives). 2412 messages were manually classified as spam (482 were false negatives). 19 unsure messages were manually identified as good, and 611 as spam. 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To unsubscribe simply e-mail: remove@internships4you.com with unsubscribe in the subject line. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040505/ddc68721/attachment.html From papaDoc at videotron.ca Wed May 5 10:09:34 2004 From: papaDoc at videotron.ca (papaDoc) Date: Wed May 5 10:10:33 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy: Sorting Accuracy? In-Reply-To: <200405051353.i45Dr9Ep017997@host8.apollohosting.com> References: <200405051353.i45Dr9Ep017997@host8.apollohosting.com> Message-ID: <4098F59E.60309@videotron.ca> Hi, >Am I doing something wrong? I just saw a post that someone was getting >99% accuracy after only 2 days! Any suggestions you can provide will >be greatly appreciated. > >Status and Configuration: >POP3 proxy running on 1110, 1120, proxying to >mail.antietamtravel.com:110, mail.adelphia.net:110. >Active POP3 conversations: 0. >POP3 conversations this session: 306. >Emails classified this session: 427 spam, 276 ham, 131 unsure. >Total emails trained: Spam: 2412 Ham: 568 > >Statistics: > >SpamBayes has processed 2980 messages - 1031 (35%) good, 1319 (44%) >spam and 630 (21%) unsure. > >568 messages were manually classified as good (0 were false >positives). > >2412 messages were manually classified as spam (482 were false >negatives). > >19 unsure messages were manually identified as good, and 611 as spam. > > 1- Try to train on the same amount of spam and ham. 2- Verify that you did not do any mistake when training. (This is really hard to do with the web interface) So my advice is to retrain from scratch. Remi -- /"\ \ / X ASCII Ribbon Campaign / \ Against HTML Email From urko.masse at telitas.nl Wed May 5 11:36:48 2004 From: urko.masse at telitas.nl (Urko Masse) Date: Wed May 5 11:40:13 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes works only with Administrator Message-ID: <40990A10.3060004@telitas.nl> Hello, I have read the Troubleshooting guide, but it was no help. I have tried installing SpamBayes, latest available binary installer 1.0b1, and it works fine if I install and run it as Administrator (at least I get the Wizard and the Toolbar in Outlook 2000). However, if I install it as a normal (limited) user, it doesn't. I am running Windows 2000 Professional SP4. I have tried the sugestion for enabling the Plugin for all users, as described in the Troubleshooting guide, but I get an error message saying that the Dll was loaded, but the registration entry point was not found. Unfortunately, I can't try that now, because the problem is not in my computer. The message also suggests that a corrupted version of the DLL might be in memory. Anybody had this? Thanks in advance for the help. Regards, Urko From adam.walker at rbwconsulting.com Wed May 5 12:02:09 2004 From: adam.walker at rbwconsulting.com (Adam Walker) Date: Wed May 5 12:02:17 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] mac? In-Reply-To: <16536.26621.430868.181515@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <16536.26621.430868.181515@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <9059DA1F-9EAD-11D8-B067-000A95E09D92@rbwconsulting.com> There is also a Mac OS X package on the wiki (http://www.entrian.com/sbwiki/MacOSXPackage). I haven't tried it yet. On May 5, 2004, at 12:05 AM, Skip Montanaro wrote: > > Pamela> My man raves about spambayes, and although being an apple > user I > Pamela> do not have the level of spam that he does as a pc/windows > guy I > Pamela> would like to use spambayes. I am running Mac OS X > v.10.3.3. > > Pamela, > > The sb_server.py application should run just fine on your Mac though I > don't > know what it would take to make it a startup item. You can get details > about downloading and installing it on the Applications page: > > http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/applications.html > > Skip > > _______________________________________________ > Spambayes@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From njsuk at hotmail.com Wed May 5 14:26:01 2004 From: njsuk at hotmail.com (Nick Stone) Date: Wed May 5 14:26:10 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Outlook plug in - sound effects when movingmail to spam folder In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D28@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <003301c432ce$6ae99040$a930353e@langfine> Hello Tony, Thank you very much for your reply and for your help. Yes, I have checked the settings in Control Panel->Sounds [and audio devices]->Sounds? No sound is selected with "New Mail Notification". I have checked all other sound events, and none are associated with the Utopia Critical Stop.wav" file. Regards Nick Stone -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: 03 May 2004 00:39 To: 'Nick Stone'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Spambayes Outlook plug in - sound effects when movingmail to spam folder > The mystery deepens! When spam is moved to the spam folder, > the "Utopia Critical Stop.wav" in the Windows-Media folder is > played. This is different to the sound played when Outlook > receives email. I cannot see anything in the Options dialogs > that would cause Outlook do to this. > > I have stopped it playing by renaming the "Utopia Critical > Stop.wav" file. However this is not a very good solution so > if anyone can get to the bottom of this I would be very interested. Have you checked the settings in Control Panel->Sounds [and audio devices]->Sounds? =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.674 / Virus Database: 436 - Release Date: 02/05/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.674 / Virus Database: 436 - Release Date: 02/05/2004 From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed May 5 16:58:51 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed May 5 16:59:05 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] mac? In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306269D3B@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D5E@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> [Pamela Day] > My man raves about spambayes, and although being an apple user I > do not have the level of spam that he does as a pc/windows guy I > would like to use spambayes. I am running Mac OS X v.10.3.3. You might have noticed that the information on the website is somewhat skimpy on mac installs, although the wiki does have a little bit more. Once you've got everything installed, if you think that you could add information that would help mac users do the install in future, it would be great to hear what that is. Anything from tips to a list of steps to do the install - we'll take care of formatting it and putting it online etc. No obligation, of course, but an open invitation :) =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From rich.williams at varian.com Wed May 5 17:12:04 2004 From: rich.williams at varian.com (Rich Williams) Date: Wed May 5 17:12:41 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Losing Mail Message-ID: <000201c432e5$a4987150$5498be84@rwilliams> Hi: I just installed SpamBayes 1.0b1 (on Windows 2000 ver. 5.0) for Outlook 2000 ver. SR-1. When I started up Outlook, I had 15 e-mails in the Junk Suspects folder. I opened the folder and dragged and dropped each of them to my Inbox, thinking this would classify them as "ham." Instead, they just disappeared. What happened to them and how can I get them back? Thanks. (BTW, I looked in your Troubleshooting section and couldn't find anything there (or anywhere else) on this problem.) Rich Williams From rich.williams at varian.com Wed May 5 17:14:54 2004 From: rich.williams at varian.com (Rich Williams) Date: Wed May 5 17:15:04 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] FW: Losing Mail Message-ID: <000301c432e6$05482ea0$5498be84@rwilliams> Sorry, I forgot to attach the log file. -----Original Message----- From: Rich Williams [mailto:rich.williams@varian.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 2:12 PM To: 'spambayes@python.org' Subject: Losing Mail Hi: I just installed SpamBayes 1.0b1 (on Windows 2000 ver. 5.0) for Outlook 2000 ver. SR-1. When I started up Outlook, I had 15 e-mails in the Junk Suspects folder. I opened the folder and dragged and dropped each of them to my Inbox, thinking this would classify them as "ham." Instead, they just disappeared. What happened to them and how can I get them back? Thanks. (BTW, I looked in your Troubleshooting section and couldn't find anything there (or anywhere else) on this problem.) Rich Williams -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: spambayes1.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 4027 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040505/28947f7d/spambayes1.obj From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed May 5 17:27:12 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed May 5 17:27:32 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Using SpamBayes as a "remote filter"? In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306269D8B@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2BEF@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > However: I have to travel a lot and so I'm sometimes > connecting with my modem, which means that I have to transfer > all spam to my notebook first. This is a reasonably common situation, and there was even talk of creating/adapting a script to handle this a while back. Nothing (AFAIK) has been done, though. > I got a Linux (debian) server with a DSL connection. Is it > possible to use the Unix version of SpamBayes to check a > pop-mailbox, remove all spam mails from the mailbox and keep > the ham on the pop server of my provider? Possible, yes. With the existing scripts, no. Any chance that you know Python? This would be reasonably simple to write. Something like: * Use poplib to connect to the POP server. * Run through all the messages (you could later adapt this to look only at ones you haven't seen before). * For each message (, call spambayes.classifier.spamprob(spambayes.tokenizer.tokenize(messagetext)), which will give you the message's score. * If the score is > spambayes.Options.options["Classification", "spam_threshold"] then: * Save the message somewhere for later review. * Delete the message. * Repeat this script at whatever regularity is required. This isn't tested, but would be a start: """ import os import time import poplib from spambayes.tokenizer import tokenize from spambayes.storage import open_storage from spambayes.Options import options ####################### # These need to be initialised to whatever is correct. review_path = "~/review" SERVER = "pop.example.com" PORT = 110 USERNAME = "user" PASSWORD = "pass" ####################### classifier = open_storage(options["Storage", "persistent_storage_file"], options["Storage", "persistent_use_database"]) review_path = os.expanduser(review_path) if not os.path.exists(review_path): print "Making review directory" os.mkdirs(review_path) spamcount = 0 p = poplib.POP3(SERVER, PORT) p.user(USERNAME) p.pass_(PASSWORD) for msg in p.list()[1]: msg_num, msg_size = msg.split() messagetext = p.retr(msg_num) score = classifier.spamprob(tokenize(messagetext)) if score > spambayes.Options.options["Classification", "spam_threshold"]: fn = os.path.join(review_path, "%d_%10d" % (spamcount, time.time())) f = file(fn, "w") f.write(messagetext) f.close() p.dele(msg_num) spamcount += 1 p.quit() print "Removed", spamcount, "messages." """ > And: Is it possible to transfer the database of my existing > Windows installation to the new Unix installation by copying > the database files? Transferring the databases is reasonably straightforward. You *might* be able to simply copy the database files - if you're using a pickle, that would be fine. If you're using one of the dbm modules (the default), then it might work, depending on the various versions on the Windows and Unix systems. However, to get around this, you can use the sb_dbexpimp.py script. Use it to convert the database (the statistic - hamme.db - one - the other one doesn't need to be copied) either to a pickle or to csv with the Windows system. Then on the Unix system use the same script to convert from csv/pickle to dbm. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed May 5 17:30:26 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed May 5 17:30:40 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] FW: Losing Mail In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306269F67@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D62@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > When I started up Outlook, I had 15 e-mails in the Junk > Suspects folder. I opened the folder and dragged and dropped > each of them to my Inbox, thinking this would classify them > as "ham." Instead, they just disappeared. What happened to > them and how can I get them back? The log only indicates that there were two of these, not fifteen (unless you don't have incremental training enabled and did "Recover from Spam" on two, instead). However, they'll still be there somewhere. Please see FAQ 3.12: =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed May 5 17:35:05 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed May 5 17:36:41 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: unsure,Re: [spambayes-dev] wish from new user In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306269DFA@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D63@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Thank you for info & so. After trying to reset all things to previous > values training ends always with this message (probably this > is the same everytime message wich somehow does not get erased, it does > not show any timestamp). This seems no problem it looks like everything > else is working fine. [...] > KeyError: '-*spam*-' This is because there is a message in your unknown cache directory that has "-*spam*-" as the classification, and the interface tries to match this to one of the three known classifications and fails. This problem will go away by itself eventually, as the message will expire out of the cache (7 days after it arrived, by default), or you can try and find it yourself. You just need to search (with grep or the Windows "search in files", for example) for "-*spam*-" in that directory and remove those files. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed May 5 17:40:41 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed May 5 17:40:56 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy: Sorting Accuracy? In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306269E58@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D64@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > After a week, I feel that Spambayes is not sorting > accurately. I have trained accurately, but this morning, all > of the deferred messages - 30 or 40 - were spam. About 20 of > 60 messages sorted as ham were, in fact, spam. The messages > sorted as spam are indeed spam, but Spambayes is missing too many. > > Am I doing something wrong? I just saw a post that someone > was getting 99% accuracy after only 2 days! Any suggestions > you can provide will be greatly appreciated. If you could provide an example message that was incorrectly classified, along with the "clues" for the message (on the review page there is a "Clues" link that will get you this), that would help us a lot. You might even be able to see why the message scored what it did yourself, but if you can't, we should be able to explain. Note that it's fairly common for the majority of unsure messages to be spam. Sometimes altering the threshold can fix this problem (if they're all scoring > 75%, for example). You should only get ~2-5% of your messages classified as unsure, though. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From papaDoc at videotron.ca Wed May 5 17:43:40 2004 From: papaDoc at videotron.ca (papaDoc) Date: Wed May 5 17:43:44 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Using SpamBayes as a "remote filter"? In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2BEF@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2BEF@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <4099600C.8060507@videotron.ca> Hi, >>I got a Linux (debian) server with a DSL connection. Is it >>possible to use the Unix version of SpamBayes to check a >>pop-mailbox, remove all spam mails from the mailbox and keep >>the ham on the pop server of my provider? >> >> What I'm doing is something that you might find useful. I have a server at home (Linux debian also). With fetchmail I grab all the mails from my different account and sort them to different users with the use of simple procmail rule and sb_filter.py. (The users are me, my girlfriend, and spam) Then my server is also a POP3 server. So at work I'm retrieving only the "me" user and when I'm back home I look at the spam user mail. >Transferring the databases is reasonably straightforward. You *might* be >able to simply copy the database files - if you're using a pickle, that >would be fine. If you're using one of the dbm modules (the default), then >it might work, depending on the various versions on the Windows and Unix >systems. > > Yes it is working if the windows and unix PC have the same "best" database format. Remi -- /"\ \ / X ASCII Ribbon Campaign / \ Against HTML Email From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed May 5 17:49:29 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed May 5 17:49:43 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] folder selection problems In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306269DBA@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D65@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> >> I installed the beta version 1.0b1 and the behavior changed. >> >> Aaron >> Inbox >> Info >> Inbox >> Other >> >> Given mailbox accounts like this, if I select the Inbox under Info, I get >> messagebox >> >> Please select child folder - top-level folders can't be used > > Eeeek! Whilst this is a cracking program when used on > a single mailbox I've got the exact same problem as > detailed below. I've searched the archives but can't turn > anything up; did anyone find a resolution for this? I'm fairly sure this is now fixed. Stayed tuned for an announcement of 1.0rc1 at some point today (or just go and get it from ) and try that version - I believe it'll work. I can't be sure, because I only have (write) access to one Exchange store, but it gives me an access denied error rather than the "invalid window handle" error that it used to, so it seems like it. If it's not fixed in 1.0rc1, then please (re?)open a bug on sourceforge, so that we can be sure to get it fixed for 1.0. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed May 5 18:01:15 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed May 5 18:01:44 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Occasional error In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306269BAD@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D68@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > If it's any help, it pretty much always seems to be mails very > similar to this one (they might even be identical - i can keep them > if you want me to). I thought it might help in working out what's > causing the problem if you haveb't already done so: If I understand correctly, it's that the message is multipart, but claims to be text/plain, which causes the parser grief. The 1.0rc1 release of SpamBayes should handle these well with sb_filter/sb_mboxtrain. sb_imapfilter will at least not choke and die on them anymore - it'll do what sb_server already did and just add an X-SpamBayes-Exception header. There's some discussion on spambayes-dev about what'll we'll do long term. The latest version of the Python email parser handles these fine, and there's an even newer version that handles any badly formed message well, so we might end up packaging one of those in with SpamBayes. Something will be done, at any rate... Thanks for the help, though - much appreciated. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tim.one at comcast.net Wed May 5 18:04:01 2004 From: tim.one at comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Wed May 5 18:04:08 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Using SpamBayes as a "remote filter"? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [Sven Abels] > I'm using SpamBayes with my Windows-solution and it works perfectly fine. > > However: I have to travel a lot and so I'm sometimes connecting with my > modem, which means that I have to transfer all spam to my notebook first. > > I got a Linux (debian) server with a DSL connection. Is it possible to use > the Unix version of SpamBayes to check a pop-mailbox, remove all spam > mails from the mailbox and keep the ham on the pop server of my provider? The SpamBayes Wiki has a program for doing exactly that (plus more, including a whitelist feature and special rules for virus detection): http://www.entrian.com/sbwiki/SpamBayesCuller You'll need to understand Python well enough to customize it to your setup. I haven't used it, but its author (Andrew Dalke) is well known in the Python world for Good Stuff. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed May 5 18:06:36 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed May 5 18:06:56 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes works only with Administrator In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306269E5B@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D69@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I have tried installing SpamBayes, latest available binary installer > 1.0b1, and it works fine if I install and run it as Administrator (at > least I get the Wizard and the Toolbar in Outlook 2000). > However, if I install it as a normal (limited) user, it doesn't. I am > running Windows 2000 Professional SP4. What happens when you try to install it as a normal user? Do you get an error message? If so, what is it? Does the install work, but you don't end up with anything in Outlook? If so, what does the log file contain? > I have tried the sugestion for enabling the Plugin for all users, as > described in the Troubleshooting guide, but I get an error message > saying that the Dll was loaded, but the registration entry > point was not found. Something is wrong with using regsvr32 to do this (I don't know what, but it doesn't work for me or many other people either). However, you can use the "outlook_addin_register.exe" program to do the same thing. Run "outlook_addin_register.exe hkey_local_machine" and see if that works. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed May 5 18:09:36 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed May 5 18:10:04 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Using SpamBayes as a "remote filter"? In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306269F8A@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D6A@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > The SpamBayes Wiki has a program for doing exactly that (plus more, > including a whitelist feature and special rules for virus detection): > > http://www.entrian.com/sbwiki/SpamBayesCuller I'd forgotten about this. It seems to me that this'd be a good addition to the contrib directory - do you agree? Are there any issues with including it given that Andrew has released the script into the public domain? =Tony Meyer From Harold.Vandeventer at dpra.com Wed May 5 18:19:31 2004 From: Harold.Vandeventer at dpra.com (Harold Vandeventer) Date: Wed May 5 18:19:56 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] FW: Losing Mail Message-ID: <710C39AC5BC90648B3CA31DC47D11116016CC021@mhk02.ad.dpra.com> Also be sure that you "View" in Outlook is set for "View Messages". It might be set to display only unread msgs. ____________________________________ Harold Vandeventer Network Administrator DPRA Incorporated 200 Research Dr Manhattan, KS 66503 Voice: (785) 539-3565 ext 1026 FAX: (785) 537-0272 -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 4:30 PM To: rich.williams@varian.com; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] FW: Losing Mail > When I started up Outlook, I had 15 e-mails in the Junk > Suspects folder. I opened the folder and dragged and dropped > each of them to my Inbox, thinking this would classify them > as "ham." Instead, they just disappeared. What happened to > them and how can I get them back? The log only indicates that there were two of these, not fifteen (unless you don't have incremental training enabled and did "Recover from Spam" on two, instead). However, they'll still be there somewhere. Please see FAQ 3.12: =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From warren at warrenernst.com Wed May 5 18:36:26 2004 From: warren at warrenernst.com (Warren 'Llama' Ernst) Date: Wed May 5 18:33:57 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Love SpamBayes! Should I prune my SPAM folder? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: All, Just a note from a very satisfied user of the Outlook module of SpamBayes. I review software for a living, and after playing with SpamBayes, it is the only anti-spam product I use on my own machines and email accounts, and I rely on my email to earn my income. I am having no problems, but I have a question: After a month or two of using the Outlook plugin with great success, I find that my Inbox (my store of Ham) has 972 messages, and my SPAM folder (which obviously stores SPAM) has 2587 messages, and the SPAM folder is growing at around 100 messages a day. Ordinarily, I'd be deleting SPAM, but I need to keep it around so that SpamBayes knows current trends in what Spam looks like, right? Or does SpamBayes learn all it is going to learn during filtering and when I drag things to the SPAM folder, so now I can now clean this folder out? Or should I just delete the oldest 2000 messages every few months? This isn't a big deal now, of course, (my mail archive goes back ten years and consists of thousands of messages), but in a few years the SPAM folder could be 100,000 messages if I don't do something. Thanks for clearing this up for me. -Warr From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed May 5 18:39:55 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed May 5 18:40:12 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Love SpamBayes! Should I prune my SPAM folder? In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306269FA1@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D6D@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Ordinarily, I'd be deleting SPAM, but I need to keep it > around so that SpamBayes knows current trends in what Spam > looks like, right? Or does SpamBayes learn all it is going to > learn during filtering and when I drag things to the SPAM > folder, so now I can now clean this folder out? Or should I > just delete the oldest 2000 messages every few months? Firstly, FAQ 3.15 has some information about this: Basically, you may want to keep some around in order to retrain if you ever need to. OTOH, if you get 100 spams per day, then you'd only need one day to have it pretty well trained. Otherwise, SpamBayes stores it's information elsewhere, so you can do what you like with the mail in that folder. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From membermailing3 at mail.ivillage.com Wed May 5 19:33:52 2004 From: membermailing3 at mail.ivillage.com (Member Mailing 3) Date: Wed May 5 19:34:53 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: message (KMM11869329V99989L0KM) Message-ID: <20040505233449.8FD61256FF@relay1.ivillage.com> PLEASE DO NOT REPLY UNTIL YOU HAVE READ THROUGH THE REPLY INSTRUCTIONS LOCATED AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS EMAIL This is an automated email response designed to provide an answer to your question about this mailing you are receiving. Please read through this reply first. Then if your questions are not answered, please follow the contact instructions on the bottom of this reply. 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If your question is not about this mailing that you received, please write iVillage's Customer Support team at feedback@mail.ivillage.com Original Message Follows: ------------------------ Requested file. ++++ Attachment: No Virus found ++++ Norman AntiVirus - www.norman.com [ Attachment 1.2 Type: text/plain] From buck at digitaldudes.com Wed May 5 22:01:11 2004 From: buck at digitaldudes.com (Capt Buck) Date: Wed May 5 22:01:17 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] strange stuff..bug Message-ID: <005d01c4330e$056ffac0$0100a8c0@XPCONNECT> I have been trying your product for about a month and it is a very interesting dev. It has worked fine for me and I tried to show a friend of mine how it works on their xp home machine. I first installed the same version I used (spambayes-1.0a9.exe) It seemed to load fine and I right clicked the tray to begin configuring......I am not sure what I did but next thing I knew the tray.... dissapeared.. I tried un installing and reinstalling repeatedly and then down loaded yr latest version but to no avail ...the installer said all okay but the tray has never reappeared... This is used in outlook express on a xp home machine........The traceback log s follows...... Traceback (most recent call last): File "autoconfigure.py", line 791, in ? File "autoconfigure.py", line 742, in offer_to_configure File "autoconfigure.py", line 705, in configure File "autoconfigure.py", line 451, in configure_outlook_express KeyError: 'SMTP Port' Traceback (most recent call last): File "autoconfigure.py", line 791, in ? File "autoconfigure.py", line 742, in offer_to_configure File "autoconfigure.py", line 705, in configure File "autoconfigure.py", line 451, in configure_outlook_express KeyError: 'SMTP Port' I see the error but I am clueless how to resolve it.......... any ideas thankyou , captbuck -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 1115 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040505/f938d6d5/attachment.gif From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu May 6 00:16:56 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu May 6 00:17:14 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] can't get it re-installed In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F130626A057@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D76@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I had installed Spambayes in our CFO's computer. > He tried to delete it, but it did not completely > delete. Was this by using the "Add/Remove Programs" control panel, or by manually deleting the files? (It should the the former). > I uninstalled Spybot and tried to completely uninstall > Spambayes but the Spambayes folder in Program Files > will not delete. Is Outlook closed when you try this? What error message do you get when you try to delete? Is this manually deleting the files, or using the control panel? > I tried to reinstall Spambayes but it does not re-install. > It looks like it does but it is not there when I open Outlook. > The Add-In is not installed (I checked your troubleshooting guide > and I am still confused as to what to do). The installation should have created a log file. This is in the temp directory (C:\Documents and Settings\{username}\Local Settings\Temp with XP) and is called "spambayes1.log". If you could send us that, it would help figure out what is going on. In addition, what version of Outlook and Windows is he using? =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu May 6 00:18:31 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu May 6 00:18:46 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Can't access page to review emails In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F130626A026@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D77@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I can't access any pages to either configure, review > or do anything with Spam Bayes. Everytime I do, "I get > a HTTP 500 - internal server error" page error. I use > Spam Bayes with Outlook Express, any ideas? Is SpamBayes definitely running at the time? For example, if you're using the tray application, is the little icon still there? SpamBayes creates a log file that would have clues about what is going wrong. The troubleshooting guide (a copy should be in the Start menu) explains where to find the log. If you could send that to us, it would greatly help in figuring out what is going wrong. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu May 6 00:23:09 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu May 6 00:23:19 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] strange stuff..bug In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F130626A019@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D78@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > It seemed to load fine and I right clicked the tray > to begin configuring......I am not sure what I did but > next thing I knew the tray.... dissapeared.. > I tried un installing and reinstalling repeatedly and > then down loaded yr latest version but to no avail ... > the installer said all okay but the tray has never reappeared... I suspect this means that something went really wrong with the configuration somehow. The uninstall/install process doesn't touch the configuration file, so that could still be causing the problem. This file is located in your Data directory - the troubleshooting guide explains how to find it. It'll be called bayescustomize.ini. You might need to delete that to start afresh. > This is used in outlook express on a xp home machine.... > ....The traceback log s follows...... > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "autoconfigure.py", line 791, in ? > File "autoconfigure.py", line 742, in offer_to_configure > File "autoconfigure.py", line 705, in configure > File "autoconfigure.py", line 451, in configure_outlook_express > KeyError: 'SMTP Port' This is interesting: 1. Did you try using the "autoconfigure" program? This isn't widely used, and is still under development, which is why it's not mentioned anywhere, although it does get installed. Did it work for you prior to this? 2. Was it when using the "autoconfigure" program that the problem occurred? The log seems to indicate this. 3. What version of Outlook Express is this? The error seems like it's saying that OE's registry information doesn't look like it expects it to, which probably means a different version. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu May 6 00:24:58 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu May 6 00:25:08 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Words of praise In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306269D71@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D79@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > This is a quick note just to say this is a great > product and I would rate it way up there with th > invention of sliced bread and of course email. > I have used this for all of 2 days and it is 99% > acurate allready. I dont know if i can now live > without it. > My thanks to all involved On behalf of everyone (and there are lots!), you're welcome, and thanks for the kind words - we really appreciate it. Be sure to let us know if you have any troubles, or if there are areas that you feel could be improved. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu May 6 00:29:49 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu May 6 00:29:56 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] (problems with outlook 2003) In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13062697D6@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D7A@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Sorry, didn't mean to be rude, just wasn't sure my first one > made it through. Answers to your questions below.... That's ok - I wasn't telling you off or anything, just pointing out in case you didn't know (with some systems maybe posting twice would help - here it's just one more message in the pile to answer). [...] > It is definitely when I click off of it...I can sit there and > watch it for several minutes and nothing happens, but as soon > as I click off it's gone (or if I click on it immediately its > gone). New incoming mail will cause it too..I guess anything > that causes the emphasis to be off of that particular > message. I don't see any errors in the log. [...] > I'm pretty sure it does the actual move immediately, because > if you actually double click the message while its still > highlighted, it'll give me the "no filterable items exist" > error message. [...] This certainly is an odd one - especially since others using Outlook 2003 (I presume they used exchange, too) haven't reported it. I'm afraid I'm out of ideas - if it bothers you, the best move now would be to open a bug report on sourceforge: (if you haven't already; I don't recall). At some point Mark will get time to take a look at it and might be able to figure out something we can do to refresh (deselect the message or something, perhaps). Sorry I can't be of more help. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu May 6 00:34:53 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu May 6 00:36:00 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes on Outlook Express In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306269432@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2BF4@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Still nothing filtered so far. Here's what I know about my > Outlook Express setup. The mail account name is > pop.west.cox.net. THe server is POP3 on localhost (I changed > it to that per instructions). In the advanced settings, the > POP3 server is monitoring channel 110 (typical). Odd. Does the web interface say that there have been zero conversations, as well as zero messages filtered? It really sounds like OE isn't connecting through SpamBayes at all. Do you have anything else that might be running on port 110 (although then SpamBayes should be failing, and I didn't see any indication of that in the log) - something like a POP3 proxy for virus protection, or the like? You could try changing the port from 110 to something else, like 8110. Then in the SpamBayes configuration change the local port from 110 to 8110 as well. If you open up a command prompt (dos prompt) and type "telnet localhost 110 [enter]" do you get a "failed to connect" message, or a "welcome to pop.west.cox.net" type message? > Do I need to check the secure socket link required box? No, and doing so will mean that it fails to work. (We don't support POP3 over SSL as yet). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu May 6 00:42:01 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu May 6 00:42:16 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes not automatically filtering in Outlook 2000 In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13062691AC@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D7D@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Yes, spambayes is enabled. Background filtering has been > turned both on and off doesn't seem to make a difference.. in > fact I can't see what that would do as it takes so long to > kick in, meanwhile my rules would have moved the message out > of the inbox into the appropriate sub folder. Perhaps I misunderstand. The idea behind the background filtering is that you ensure that SpamBayes kicks in after your rules have moved things about, and you simply filter all the folders that messages are moved to. Without it, it's anyone's guess as to whether SpamBayes or Outlook's Rules get at messages first, and so some will be filtered then moved, and others will be just moved. When you turned it on, were you filtering the destination folders? Are messages that aren't moved by rules filtered? > Logfile attached. This is rather odd. Are the messages referred to in the logfile recent ones? The log indicates that lots of messages were successfully filtered, and doesn't have any errors - or were these ones that you did a "Filter folder" on? =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. 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I am >>running Windows 2000 Professional SP4. >> >> > >What happens when you try to install it as a normal user? Do you get an >error message? If so, what is it? Does the install work, but you don't end >up with anything in Outlook? If so, what does the log file contain? > > I got no error message whatsoever, and absolutely no trace of Spambayes in Outlook. In the log file, which I unfortunately can't access anymore, the last message said something like "Access Denied" (in Dutch). I can try to get that log file later, but the person that works on the computer is usually quite busy. >>I have tried the sugestion for enabling the Plugin for all users, as >>described in the Troubleshooting guide, but I get an error message >>saying that the Dll was loaded, but the registration entry >>point was not found. >> >> > >Something is wrong with using regsvr32 to do this (I don't know what, but it >doesn't work for me or many other people either). However, you can use the >"outlook_addin_register.exe" program to do the same thing. Run >"outlook_addin_register.exe hkey_local_machine" and see if that works. > > Well, perfect!!! It worked! Now she is happily training SpamBayes as it goes! I couldn't pre-sort email, but she gets around 200 spam mails per day (actual number!) in that email account. It is a public account for business purposes, so just like a sitting duck for spammers. I think that SpamBayes will get pretty good at it pretty quickly... Thanks a lot for your help!!! >=Tony Meyer > Urko Masse From ik47axzcm at hotmail.it Thu May 6 01:03:04 2004 From: ik47axzcm at hotmail.it (Alejandra Evans) Date: Thu May 6 04:51:31 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] =?iso-8859-1?q?Spambayes_Its_not_to_late_to_order_yo?= =?iso-8859-1?q?ur_Valium=AE_and_X_A_N_A_x_fkjweahnwwd?= Message-ID: CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP BUY XANAX VALIUM VICODIN Plus Many More at super low prices! 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As requested I've opened a bug id https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=949000&group_i d=61702&atid=498103 Cheers -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: 05 May 2004 22:49 To: Frosdick, Paul; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] folder selection problems >> I installed the beta version 1.0b1 and the behavior changed. >> >> Aaron >> Inbox >> Info >> Inbox >> Other >> >> Given mailbox accounts like this, if I select the Inbox under Info, I get >> messagebox >> >> Please select child folder - top-level folders can't be used > > Eeeek! Whilst this is a cracking program when used on > a single mailbox I've got the exact same problem as > detailed below. I've searched the archives but can't turn > anything up; did anyone find a resolution for this? I'm fairly sure this is now fixed. Stayed tuned for an announcement of 1.0rc1 at some point today (or just go and get it from ) and try that version - I believe it'll work. I can't be sure, because I only have (write) access to one Exchange store, but it gives me an access denied error rather than the "invalid window handle" error that it used to, so it seems like it. If it's not fixed in 1.0rc1, then please (re?)open a bug on sourceforge, so that we can be sure to get it fixed for 1.0. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. ********************************************************************** Please visit the official ITV website at www.itv.com for the latest company news. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify postmaster@itv.com Thank you. ********************************************************************** From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu May 6 05:52:26 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu May 6 05:54:00 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Offer of assistance In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13060E4B49@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D85@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I use your software which I find to be effective, > and as a result I'd be very willing to offer my > assistance, although my programming skills are pretty > limited. I have reasonable HTML and Javascript knowledge, > plus some experience with MS Visual Basic 6.0, although > I've only run a couple of projects through to completion. Apologies for the delay in replying (we obviously need the help! <0.5 wink>). Any help is always gratefully accepted. There's a FAQ about the different ways to help: Certainly support (i.e. answering questions on this list) and fixing up the documentation (some is text, some is HTML, some is neither) would certainly help. The former takes up a lot of time of people that could be fixing bugs, and the latter would stop so many people needing to ask for help (we gladly admit that the documentation needs work). Otherwise, just pick something that you think needs improvement, figure out what you think it should be like, run it past us (here or spambayes-dev@python.org) and go for it! Scratch your own itch, and all that. Thanks again for the offer! =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu May 6 05:54:20 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu May 6 05:56:51 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes works only with Administrator In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F130626A0E2@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D86@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > In the log file, which I unfortunately can't access anymore, the last > message said something like "Access Denied" (in Dutch). I can > try to get that log file later, but the person that works on the > computer is usually quite busy. Oh well, if it's working now, I guess it doesn't matter. > Well, perfect!!! It worked! Now she is happily training > SpamBayes as it goes! [...] > Thanks a lot for your help!!! No worries; glad that it's working now. I think I'll update the troubleshooting guide so that it has that instead of regsvr32. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From vaughan at xandmail.com Thu May 6 06:06:22 2004 From: vaughan at xandmail.com (Jonathan Vaughan) Date: Thu May 6 06:06:32 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes site design Message-ID: Hi there, This has nothing to do with the SpamBayes application itself (which looks excellent), but is just a small usability comment on the site design. The pages have no footer, which means that the main body text continues right down to the bottom edge of the page. This makes the site harder to read (it's nicer to be able to scroll and keep the current line near the middle of the browser window) and also gives the impression was that the pages might be broken (i.e. prematurely truncated). Could I put in a small request for some kind of page footer to be added? It needn't be anything special - a couple of inches of blank space would do the trick. Many thanks, Jonathan Vaughan From mboudreau at Optra.com Thu May 6 09:38:56 2004 From: mboudreau at Optra.com (Mike Boudreau) Date: Thu May 6 09:38:51 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Public Folders Message-ID: <55A746F2E2C021428A41F6FCC5A0DA31010B67@Phoenix.Optra.local> I have recently started using public folders to collect emails sent to "HR", SALES, and INFO. The vast majority of these emails are spam. SpamBayes does not filter these emails. I've tried to segregate these messages in Outlook 2003 by having exchange divert these emails to my "inbox" but then I lose visibility into who these messages were originally addressed to. Does anyone know how to have SpamBayes filter messages going directly to Public Folders? Thanks Mike Boudreau -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040506/9e505b56/attachment.html From erudert at rudertcpa.com Thu May 6 12:41:35 2004 From: erudert at rudertcpa.com (Ed Rudert) Date: Thu May 6 12:41:25 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Deleting Message-ID: Is there a way to delete items from the "Junk E-Mail" folder without sending them to the "Deleted Items" folder where they have to be deleted again to be permanently removed? I am using Outlook 2000 (9.0.0.2711) with Windows XP Home. I could not tell how to determine my Spambayes version. Thanks. Edward H. Rudert Ernest J. Rudert & Company, LLP Certified Public Accountants Phone: (706) 291-6825 Fax: (706) 232-6599 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 1736 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040506/62034e80/winmail.bin From Amir_Katz at bmc.com Thu May 6 13:27:16 2004 From: Amir_Katz at bmc.com (Katz, Amir) Date: Thu May 6 13:27:36 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Deleting Message-ID: Mark all required mails, hold down the shift key, click the 'delete' button on keyboard. > -----Original Message----- > From: Ed Rudert [mailto:erudert@rudertcpa.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 19:42 > To: spambayes@python.org > Subject: [Spambayes] Deleting > > Is there a way to delete items from the "Junk E-Mail" folder without > sending them to the "Deleted Items" folder where they have to be deleted > again to be permanently removed? I am using Outlook 2000 (9.0.0.2711) > with Windows XP Home. I could not tell how to determine my Spambayes > version. Thanks. > > Edward H. Rudert > Ernest J. Rudert & Company, LLP > Certified Public Accountants > Phone: (706) 291-6825 > Fax: (706) 232-6599 > << File: ATT11087841.txt >> From wbdibble at cox.net Thu May 6 14:14:45 2004 From: wbdibble at cox.net (Bill Dibble) Date: Thu May 6 14:14:50 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes on Outlook Express References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2BF4@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <000501c43396$02ae39e0$6400a8c0@Dibble> Thanks for the response. It was that pesky old Norton Antivirus. I turned it off, and everything is working OK. Of course, I don't now have email virus protection. Is there some way I can get both? Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Meyer" To: "'Bill Dibble'" ; Sent: Wednesday, 5 May 2004 9:34 PM Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Spambayes on Outlook Express > Still nothing filtered so far. Here's what I know about my > Outlook Express setup. The mail account name is > pop.west.cox.net. THe server is POP3 on localhost (I changed > it to that per instructions). In the advanced settings, the > POP3 server is monitoring channel 110 (typical). Odd. Does the web interface say that there have been zero conversations, as well as zero messages filtered? It really sounds like OE isn't connecting through SpamBayes at all. Do you have anything else that might be running on port 110 (although then SpamBayes should be failing, and I didn't see any indication of that in the log) - something like a POP3 proxy for virus protection, or the like? You could try changing the port from 110 to something else, like 8110. Then in the SpamBayes configuration change the local port from 110 to 8110 as well. If you open up a command prompt (dos prompt) and type "telnet localhost 110 [enter]" do you get a "failed to connect" message, or a "welcome to pop.west.cox.net" type message? > Do I need to check the secure socket link required box? No, and doing so will mean that it fails to work. (We don't support POP3 over SSL as yet). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From d.ando at turtlese.com Thu May 6 16:25:24 2004 From: d.ando at turtlese.com (David Ando) Date: Thu May 6 16:24:22 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook98 Message-ID: <001f01c433a8$43930f50$cf01010a@turtlese.pvt> Does SpamBayes intergrate with OUTLOOK98? How do I go about doenloading what I need? David G. Ando - President Turtle Southeast, Inc. 727-518-0962 Ext. 107 www.turtlese.com 158*5*3299 From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu May 6 16:35:39 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu May 6 16:36:14 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes on Outlook Express In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13063B54CC@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D87@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Thanks for the response. It was that pesky old Norton > Antivirus. I turned it off, and everything is working OK. > Of course, I don't now have email virus protection. Is there > some way I can get both? Yes, you should be able to chain them together. Something like: OE <-> SpamBayes <-> Norton <-> Mail Server Since Norton is running on localhost 110, set SpamBayes to connect to that, instead of your mail server. Set the local proxy port to some other value (say 8110). Then set Outlook Express to connect to localhost 8110, rather than localhost 110. All should then be fine. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu May 6 16:37:57 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu May 6 16:38:15 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook98 In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13063B5525@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2BF6@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Does SpamBayes intergrate with OUTLOOK98? How do I go about > doenloading what I need? The Outlook plug-in does not work with Outlook98. Outlook98 is simply too different (from Outlook2000 and above) under the hood to let it work. If you're getting mail via POP3 or IMAP, then you can use sb_server (download the same installer) or sb_imapfilter (download the source). IOW, just the same as if you were using Eudora or something like that. If you're getting mail some other way (Exchange, for example), then there isn't a SpamBayes solution that will work, sorry. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From postmaster at kpgb.q8.co.uk Fri May 7 02:48:02 2004 From: postmaster at kpgb.q8.co.uk (postmaster@kpgb.q8.co.uk) Date: Fri May 7 03:03:43 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE:Hi - Virus Detected!! Message-ID: The Email scanning software at Q8 Petroleum has detected the Scenarios/Incoming/Sophos Content Manager: Threat: 'W32/Netsky-Z' detected by 'Sophos AV Interface for MIMEsweeper'. Scenarios/Incoming/Executable Detected: 'ItemLength.GE.0'. virus in your message to budsaracome@q8.co.th . and this message has not been delivered. If you are not a Q8 Employee, I advise you to contact your local IT Support staff to virus check your system. If you are a Q8 Employee, please contact urgently the KPGB IT Helpdesk in order to have your system virus cheked. Kind regards, Q8 GB Infrastructure Team. From postmaster at fabrikant.com Fri May 7 04:08:40 2004 From: postmaster at fabrikant.com (postmaster@fabrikant.com) Date: Fri May 7 03:13:07 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam mail warning notification! (Attachment Removal) Message-ID: <200405070708.i4778m804281@elf.fabrikant.com> **************** eManager Notification ***************** The following mail was blocked since it contains sensitive content. Source mailbox: Destination mailbox(es): Policy: Attachment Removal Attachment file name: message.scr - audio/x-wav Action: Replaced with text eManager has removed a sensitive attachment file in the email. ******************* End of message ********************* -------------- next part -------------- From: spambayes@python.org To: suef@fabrikant.com Subject: Mail Delivery (failure suef@fabrikant.com) Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 09:13:21 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C0CA80.6B015D10" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri May 7 04:07:44 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri May 7 04:08:06 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: [spambayes-dev] Questions : After 3 days of (good) usage, SpamBays seems to encou nter problems In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13063B567B@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2BF8@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Please stop sending copies of this question over and over again. It's not going to get you a faster response, and just inconveniences everyone. Please also note that this is not the appropriate place to ask for help using SpamBayes. spambayes-dev is for discussion about the development of SpamBayes. Questions like this should be addressed to the spambayes list - spambayes@python.org. > Why do I get this error message when I select a suspect mail > and click on delete as spam ? [Image of "moving a message unexpectedly failed"] Does this happen every time you click on "Delete as spam" or just with certain messages? Have you restarted Outlook as it suggests? Try running Outlook's "Detect and Repair" and see if that helps. Please also find your log file (see the Troubleshooting guide) and send us a copy of that - it may have additional clues about what is going wrong. > When a message has been classified as sure Spam and I agree > with this classification (in JunkMail folder) , is it the right > way to select it and click on Delete or is there an integrated > way to say : "Well it's effectively spam, I don't want to keep > it know, but hope Spam Bayes used it to improve its learning > process ? You can delete spam after it has been classified, yes. Is that what you are asking? =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Fri May 7 07:24:48 2004 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Fri May 7 07:24:51 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Public Folders Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F500146DD38@SPIKE.city> Apparently public folders aren't enough like mailboxes to allow Spambayes to scan them. An alternative is to create regular Exchange mail accounts instead of public folders. Then give, for example, the Sales group permision to read the SALES account's Inbox. You can tell Spambayes to filter the Inbox and give yourself permission to read and edit the "definite" and "ambiguous" folders. Bob -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of Mike Boudreau Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 9:39 AM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Public Folders I have recently started using public folders to collect emails sent to "HR", SALES, and INFO. The vast majority of these emails are spam. 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When I turn on Norton to protect mail, it replaces my pop3 server (pop.west.cox.net) with its own (norton.pop3.antivirus). If I keep SpamBayes proxying 110, and change the proxy port in OE to 8110, I don't see how things will work. Am I missing something? THis networking stuff is a little over my head. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Meyer" To: "'Bill Dibble'" ; Sent: Thursday, 6 May 2004 1:35 PM Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Spambayes on Outlook Express > > Thanks for the response. It was that pesky old Norton > > Antivirus. I turned it off, and everything is working OK. > > Of course, I don't now have email virus protection. Is there > > some way I can get both? > > Yes, you should be able to chain them together. Something like: > > OE <-> SpamBayes <-> Norton <-> Mail Server > > Since Norton is running on localhost 110, set SpamBayes to connect to that, > instead of your mail server. Set the local proxy port to some other value > (say 8110). Then set Outlook Express to connect to localhost 8110, rather > than localhost 110. All should then be fine. > > =Tony Meyer > > --- > Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies > (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This > way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. > From scowlingatlantis at worldnet.att.net Sat May 8 16:59:21 2004 From: scowlingatlantis at worldnet.att.net (Mohammad Barber) Date: Sat May 8 17:19:19 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] CIA~L1S & LEV~ITRA works in as litt1e as 3O minutes and lasts for up to 36 h0urs . Message-ID: <200405082059.CAJ16913@mas4.bezeqint.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040508/1b4b68a2/attachment.html From cxyy60 at hotmail.it Sat May 8 08:23:04 2004 From: cxyy60 at hotmail.it (Luke Tovar) Date: Sat May 8 21:42:06 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] cokcerto roastful Message-ID: Spambayes CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP BUY XANAXx VAL1UM VICOD1N Plus many more at super l0w pr1ces http://www.buycheapdrugs.biz From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat May 8 23:19:21 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat May 8 23:19:31 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Question about merging databases In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13063B5938@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D91@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Is it possible to MERGE training databases from various > computers as opposed to simply MOVING a database from one > computer to another? The sb_dbexpimp.py script (in the source distribution) will let you do this. > Situation: I use several different systems throughout the > day, each configured similarly with Outlook 200 going against > my Exchange Server. I'd like to make sure that the Spambayes > databases are synchronized to maximize training and spam filtering. Do all of these systems have access to a shared store? (A network drive, or something?) If so, then an easier solution would be to set your data directory to be on that shared drive and have all the Outlook's access it. Help->About SpamBayes->Configuration Guide explains how to do that. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat May 8 23:23:07 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat May 8 23:23:15 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes on Outlook Express In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13063B599E@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D92@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I'm not sure I know how to do this. When I turn on Norton to > protect mail, it replaces my pop3 server (pop.west.cox.net) > with its own (norton.pop3.antivirus). If I keep SpamBayes > proxying 110, and change the proxy port in OE to 8110, I > don't see how things will work. Am I missing something? > This networking stuff is a little over my head. You need to set spambayes to use "norton.pop3.antivirus" as the remote server, and (because Norton is already using your local port 110) use 8110 as the port to proxy on. What happens is that OE connects to SpamBayes on port 8110, which connects to Norton on port 110, which connects to pop.west.cox.net on *its* port 110. Is this any clearer? =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat May 8 23:24:31 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat May 8 23:24:39 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Question In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13063B5851@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D93@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I have just installed SpamBayes and I am using Windows > ME and Outlook 2000. I noticed that the newly created > folders, Junk E-Mail and Junk Suspects, have the preview > window opened. I have disabled all of my preview windows > in my other folders but cannot seem to turn off the > preview windows in these folders. I was advised to not > have the preview windows opened because that opens the > file and the sender can see whether or not the file was > opened. How do I turn off these preview windows. You should be able to simply open the folder, choose "Preview Pane" from the "View" menu, and have it disappear. Does this not work? SpamBayes doesn't try to control that at all (they're probably there because they're there by default when a new folder is created). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat May 8 23:25:34 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat May 8 23:25:43 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Microsoft Outlook Express In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13063B579F@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D94@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > We are using the python starship spambayes at work & it is "great". > However our office system uses "Outlook"' > My question is; on my home computer I have Outlook Express and > It won't work on that. Is there a way to use it with Outlook Express? There isn't a nice integrated plug-in like for Outlook, but you can use sb_server. Please see FAQ 2.1: =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat May 8 23:30:08 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat May 8 23:30:21 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Using SpamBayes as a "remote filter"? In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13063B5A32@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2BFA@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Unfortunately, I don't know Python but I found a script > called sb_culler.py that is supposed to do exactly that. Yes, I'd forgotten about that script. > However: I spend two days in trying to get it to work without success. > Since I'm using the Outlook-Plugin (without having python > installed), I got two db files called > default_bayes_database.db and default_message_database.db The default_bayes_database.db file is the one you're after, and it's the same file as the "hammie.db" file referred to in the script. The default_message_database.db is no use at all in this context (it remembers Outlook-specific things). [...] > Whenever I try to start the sb_culler.py script, it says: [...] > "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/storage.py", line 676, in > open_storage > raise NoSuchClassifierError(db_type) > spambayes.storage.NoSuchClassifierError: False The sb_culler.py script is out of date (this would have worked with earlier SpamBayes versions). You need to change line 393 of the sb_culler.py script from: h = hammie.open("cull.spambayes", False, "r") to h = hammie.open("cull.spambayes", "dbm", "r") =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun May 9 01:00:36 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun May 9 01:00:53 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Demand for support In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13063B5721@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2BFB@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Sorry for not using the good support address in my first > demand. Please see my answers and additional information > below (in blue). I'm guessing that English isn't your first language: some unrelated advise - "demand" isn't really the right word to use here; something like "request" would be more appropriate. They have similar meanings, but "request" is more polite, given that there's no obligation for anyone to answer. (Note that I'm not offended, or anything, but you easily could offend someone inadvertently). > Attached 4 spambayes log files. I'm afraid the behaviour > occurs with all messages. Moreover it seems that I've > problems to delete mails in other folders as well. I get > the answer : "this mail was already moved or deleted or > you have access problems" . In fact the messages are still > here (seen from other machines) and my rights did not > change since yesterday when everything was OK. > I already rebooted my PC twice , and used the Detect and > Repair command of Outlook unsuccessfully. I'm afraid that this isn't a SpamBayes problem. The fact that this happens when you're simply deleting messages (SpamBayes doesn't do anything in that case) and that it happens when with folders that SpamBayes isn't even watching, and (most tellingly) that it happens after you've uninstalled SpamBayes certainly points to that conclusion. Unfortunately, I have no idea what might be wrong here. Perhaps you have someone who can help you with a specifically Outlook-related problem? > I desinstalled SpamBayes to see the behaviour without it > and still get the specific menus in my GUI ("Delete as Spam", > "Recover from Spam ", "SpamBayes") . Do I have to clean > the registry manually to make them disappear ? Note that they won't do anything (i.e. click on the "SpamBayes" button and no menu will drop down) after you've uninstalled. The toolbar doesn't get removed on uninstall - this is a bug we are aware of an will fix at some point. You have to manually remove it (right-click the toolbar, choose Customize, select the SpamBayes toolbar, and click Delete). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From kqmvmci93 at rai.it Sat May 8 21:06:47 2004 From: kqmvmci93 at rai.it (Mitchell Myrick) Date: Sun May 9 06:44:23 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Info you wanted Message-ID: Spambayes CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP BUY XANAXx VAL1UM VICOD1N Plus many more at super l0w pr1ces http://www.buycheapdrugs.biz From BWD11.Blueteam.ch/BlueTeam/CH at blueteam.ch Sun May 9 08:19:17 2004 From: BWD11.Blueteam.ch/BlueTeam/CH at blueteam.ch (BWD11.Blueteam.ch/BlueTeam/CH@blueteam.ch) Date: Sun May 9 08:19:28 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Symantec AntiVirus/Filtering detected a violation/virus in a document you authored. Message-ID: Please contact your system administrator. The infected component in the scanned document was deleted. Violation Information: The attachment message.scr contained the virus W32.Netsky.P@mm and was deleted. From kjessen at detailedplay.com Sun May 9 10:20:48 2004 From: kjessen at detailedplay.com (Karl Jessen) Date: Sun May 9 10:20:49 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Configuration with Norton Antivirus Help Please Message-ID: <006501c435d0$d34e4bd0$6401a8c0@cc825878b> Hello, Newbie to spambayes, figured out using discussion lists that Norton Antivirus proxy was intercepting from our mail server 1st, turned off email scanning, now Spambayes is 'doing its thing' :-) I set email client server setting to "localhost" after not getting any spambayes activity, this setting coupled with turning off Norton got me going. Problem is I am now without email virus scanning protection. I saw one user was instructed to put "pop3.norton.antivirus" or something like that into to the spambayes server config to set up a Server->Norton->SpamBayes->email client chaining... I know above is not exactly what I tried, but I do know that I tried the exact text I saw in the discussion list posting but this didnt work for me. I am running Norton Antirus 2004. Can you please tell me the setting to put into the spambayes config to get Spambayes to look at the Antivirus 2004 proxy? Or how to find that information in my PC settings somewhere? Oh, I'm using Outlook Express and the sb_tray application, not the outlook plug-in. Any help is greatly appreciated. I am very excited to use and pitch in to the general knowledge base, receiving hundreds of spams/virus daily due to prominence of our email address in address books out there and also published in html on the web. Would cost me 1/2 to 1 hour, on the day I finally got time to scan and clear the "Suspected" folder, problem is easy to loose 1 or 2 bonafide customer emails using this crude process. Previously, I was Outlook rule dependent to have any chance of processing the order confirmation and catalog request email of the business, and still winding up with a "boatload" of SuspectedJunk that is prone to false positives.... Thank you so much for all of your hard work on this project!!! Karl Jessen Detailed Play Systems Phone: 973.420.6729 Box 633, Springfield NJ 07081 Fax: 973.376.8881 http://www.detailedplay.com Email: playsets@detailedplay.com "The Build @Home Playground Equipment Store on the Web!" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040509/d18c48a6/attachment.html From nauman at t-vec.com Sun May 9 11:29:25 2004 From: nauman at t-vec.com (Aaron Nauman) Date: Sun May 9 11:24:19 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: folder selection problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <7CE14DF2E53BD5118B2400902745F047025D4843@jefferson.software.org> > >>> I installed the beta version 1.0b1 and the behavior changed. >>> >>> Aaron >>> Inbox >>> Info >>> Inbox >>> Other >>> >>> Given mailbox accounts like this, if I select the Inbox under > Info, I get >>> messagebox >>> >>> Please select child folder - top-level folders can't be used >> >> Eeeek! Whilst this is a cracking program when used on >> a single mailbox I've got the exact same problem as >> detailed below. I've searched the archives but can't turn >> anything up; did anyone find a resolution for this? > > I'm fairly sure this is now fixed. Stayed tuned for an > announcement of 1.0rc1 at some point today (or just go and get it > from 1.0rc1.exe?download>) and try that version - I believe it'll work. > > =Tony Meyer Hey Tony, I tried rc1 and am still getting message about top level folders can not be used. Same log message: Eeek - couldn't get the folder to check valid Aaron From michael at kimballpottery.com Sun May 9 13:43:23 2004 From: michael at kimballpottery.com (Michael Kimball) Date: Sun May 9 13:44:45 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Habeas marked email References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677C72@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <409E6DBB.8FEFA109@kimballpottery.com> Just found the Habeas related buttons in the experimental configuration page and am wondering how habeas marked mail is used. Presumably SpamBayes weights it towards 'Ham', but what happens then? I normally read my email with just 'Normal' headers visible, so I wouldn't see the Habeas headers so would be unlikely to report Habeas abuse to Habeas.com. About the only time I look at the headers is when SpamBayes has flagged the email as 'Unsure' and when a quick skimming of the 'subject' and'sender' columns suggest SpamBayes has flagged false positives, or false negatives in the 'Ham' and 'Spam' categories (in 'Review Messages' Once SpamBayes has released the email my email client filters take over. I could set up a 'Habeas' filter and read those with 'All' headers visible, but then would have to manually move those emails to their proper folders. Thank you, Mike Kimball From wbdibble at cox.net Sun May 9 17:32:10 2004 From: wbdibble at cox.net (Bill Dibble) Date: Sun May 9 17:32:26 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes on Outlook Express References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D92@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <000701c4360d$16c99180$6400a8c0@Dibble> Well, nothing is working now. I'm back to defaults.What I tried to do was to set the proxy port in OE to 8110. In SpamBayes, I set the server to pop3.norton.antivirus (that's the right one), and its proxy port to 110. In OE, the server was localhost. Of course, I get an error that no server is found, because no one's monitoring 8110. Should I put "localhost:8110" somewhere, or something? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Meyer" To: "'Bill Dibble'" ; Sent: Saturday, 8 May 2004 8:23 PM Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Spambayes on Outlook Express > I'm not sure I know how to do this. When I turn on Norton to > protect mail, it replaces my pop3 server (pop.west.cox.net) > with its own (norton.pop3.antivirus). If I keep SpamBayes > proxying 110, and change the proxy port in OE to 8110, I > don't see how things will work. Am I missing something? > This networking stuff is a little over my head. You need to set spambayes to use "norton.pop3.antivirus" as the remote server, and (because Norton is already using your local port 110) use 8110 as the port to proxy on. What happens is that OE connects to SpamBayes on port 8110, which connects to Norton on port 110, which connects to pop.west.cox.net on *its* port 110. Is this any clearer? =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From wbdibble at cox.net Sun May 9 18:37:17 2004 From: wbdibble at cox.net (Bill Dibble) Date: Sun May 9 18:37:34 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes on Outlook Express References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D92@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> <000701c4360d$16c99180$6400a8c0@Dibble> <000901c43611$ef725d10$6401a8c0@cc825878b> Message-ID: <000901c43616$2efe1380$6400a8c0@Dibble> What does your tools>accounts>properties>servers look like? Everytime I enable Norton, it puts its own pop3 server where localhost was, and every time I change it back, nothing works. And if I leave it there, SpamBayes doesn't see anything. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karl Jessen" To: "Bill Dibble" Sent: Sunday, 9 May 2004 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Spambayes on Outlook Express > I have it working with server=mytargetpop.com:110 in the sb_tray .ini file > (and in the web interface text boxes), server=localhost in email client, and > NAV 2004 email virus scan running. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Dibble" > To: "Tony Meyer" ; > Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 5:32 PM > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Spambayes on Outlook Express > > > > Well, nothing is working now. I'm back to defaults.What I tried to do was > > to set the proxy port in OE to 8110. In SpamBayes, I set the server to > > pop3.norton.antivirus (that's the right one), and its proxy port to 110. > In > > OE, the server was localhost. Of course, I get an error that no server is > > found, because no one's monitoring 8110. Should I put "localhost:8110" > > somewhere, or something? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tony Meyer" > > To: "'Bill Dibble'" ; > > Sent: Saturday, 8 May 2004 8:23 PM > > Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Spambayes on Outlook Express > > > > > > > I'm not sure I know how to do this. When I turn on Norton to > > > protect mail, it replaces my pop3 server (pop.west.cox.net) > > > with its own (norton.pop3.antivirus). If I keep SpamBayes > > > proxying 110, and change the proxy port in OE to 8110, I > > > don't see how things will work. Am I missing something? > > > This networking stuff is a little over my head. > > > > You need to set spambayes to use "norton.pop3.antivirus" as the remote > > server, and (because Norton is already using your local port 110) use 8110 > > as the port to proxy on. > > > > What happens is that OE connects to SpamBayes on port 8110, which connects > > to Norton on port 110, which connects to pop.west.cox.net on *its* port > 110. > > > > Is this any clearer? > > > > =Tony Meyer > > > > --- > > Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies > > (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This > > way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Spambayes@python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > > > > > > From skip at pobox.com Sun May 9 16:20:22 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Sun May 9 19:07:26 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Using SpamBayes as a "remote filter"? In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2BFA@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13063B5A32@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2BFA@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <16542.37510.660132.227932@montanaro.dyndns.org> >> Unfortunately, I don't know Python but I found a script called >> sb_culler.py that is supposed to do exactly that. Tony> Yes, I'd forgotten about that script. Where is it (it's not in CVS as far as I can tell)? What does it do? Skip From wbdibble at cox.net Sun May 9 19:15:21 2004 From: wbdibble at cox.net (Bill Dibble) Date: Sun May 9 19:15:32 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes on Outlook Express References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D92@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> <000701c4360d$16c99180$6400a8c0@Dibble> <000901c43611$ef725d10$6401a8c0@cc825878b> <000901c43616$2efe1380$6400a8c0@Dibble> <002501c43617$7f942720$6401a8c0@cc825878b> Message-ID: <001201c4361b$8099da80$6400a8c0@Dibble> Well, Karl, both SB and NAV launch during startup. I manually launch OE when I want to do email. My problem seems to be that NAV messes with my OE configuration. So if I set it up with localhost running on port 110, and set SB to monitor my pop3 server, everything works fine. But if I go to NAV and say protect my email, it changes localhost to its own pop3 server (pop3.norton.antivirus). Then, SB doesn't get control anymore. I've tried several combinations, and every change I make causes an error when I try to receive mail. Bill From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun May 9 20:06:10 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun May 9 20:06:29 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Using SpamBayes as a "remote filter"? In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13063B5B74@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D99@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> [OP] > Unfortunately, I don't know Python but I found a script called > sb_culler.py that is supposed to do exactly that. [Tony Meyer] > Yes, I'd forgotten about that script. [Skip] > Where is it (it's not in CVS as far as I can tell)? What does it do? It's at . Andrew Dalke wrote it at the end of last year. It basically sits somewhere constantly running, connecting to a POP3 server every three minutes. It removes anything it thinks is a virus/spam (storing it locally, I think), leaving everything else on the server. The idea is that you leave this running somewhere when you travel (or whatever) so that you don't have to wade through junk when away from your main machine. We get requests for something like this every now and then, so it seems to me it'd be worth adding to /contrib. Andrew has released it into the public domain, so I'm guessing that's ok license-wise (but IANAL). =Tony Meyer From tim.one at comcast.net Sun May 9 20:20:21 2004 From: tim.one at comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Sun May 9 20:20:18 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Using SpamBayes as a "remote filter"? In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677D6A@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: >> The SpamBayes Wiki has a program for doing exactly that (plus more, >> including a whitelist feature and special rules for virus detection): >> >> http://www.entrian.com/sbwiki/SpamBayesCuller [Tony Meyer] > I'd forgotten about this. It seems to me that this'd be a good > addition to the contrib directory - do you agree? 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I attempted to remove the program as per the advise from one of your technical representatives using Win X/P Add/Remove programs. I am curious as to why anyone who writes a program does not provide a comprehensive removal program. At any rate I still have the Spambayes Tool bar displayed below my main tool bar in Win X/P. Your product has essentially planted a virus in my computer. Thanks a lot. I used to watch TechTV with Leo Leport . I loaded this program because of his strong positive opinion of it. It was a big mistake. Perhaps you can tell me how to rid my computer of "all of your program, not just parts". Gary -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040509/1d2b02ff/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon May 10 00:50:55 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon May 10 00:51:07 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] It seems Spambayes is a virus itsself In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13063B5C56@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2C01@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I used Spambayes for a couple of months and > found it to be very ineffective. If you're interested in figuring out why that is (most likely poor training), then let us know and we can try to help. (Obviously this would require reinstalling). > I attempted to remove the program as per the advise > from one of your technical representatives using Win X/P > Add/Remove programs. I am curious as to why anyone who > writes a program does not provide a comprehensive removal > program. In what way is the removal not comprehensive? Anything apart from the toolbar issue (as below)? > At any rate I still have the Spambayes Tool bar displayed > below my main tool bar in Win X/P. Notice that it doesn't work, though. This is a known bug, and easily addressed. Please read FAQ 3.14: > Your product has essentially planted a virus in my computer. Firstly, a virus reproduces (that is one of the defining characteristics), and the non-functioning toolbar will not do that. Secondly, a virus executes code, and the non-functioning toolbar will not do that. Importantly, viruses are typically malignant - it's quite a stretch to call a non-functioning toolbar malignant. Do you see that this is not a virus? > It was a big mistake. This (the entire email, really) seems a bit over the top. What are the consequences of this "big mistake"? A non-functioning toolbar in Outlook. No damage to anything, no financial cost - is there really all that much to complain about? Especially since asking "how do I remove the toolbar", or simply looking in the FAQ for "uninstall" would have solved this problem. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon May 10 02:00:33 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon May 10 02:00:53 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Using SpamBayes as a "remote filter"? In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13063B5BF2@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677DA7@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> [Tony Meyer] > I'd forgotten about this. It seems to me that this'd be a good > addition to the contrib directory - do you agree? [Tim Peters] > 'Twould be even better if someone volunteered to keep it in > working condition <0.9 wink>. If it makes it into CVS, then I'm willing to try and do this. I'll never remember to update the wiki, though. [Tony] > Are there any issues with including it given that Andrew > has released the script into the public domain? [Tim] > I don't think so. It's always wise to ask permission first, > and some lawyers say it's legally meaningless for an > individual in the US to say they've released a work to the > public domain. I'm not worried about it, though. Cool. I'll email Andrew and see what he thinks. =Tony Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon May 10 02:35:22 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon May 10 02:35:36 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Using SpamBayes as a "remote filter"? In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13063B5B38@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2C04@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > However: There is another exception within the first mail called: [...] > File > "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/hammie.py", line 38, in > _scoremsg > return self.bayes.spamprob(tokenize(msg), evidence) > AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'spamprob' This indicates, I think, that there was some sort of problem opening the database, although I'm not sure why it gets set to None, rather than raising an exception, and fiddling about, I can't duplicate this. What does your line 348 look like? It should be something like: h = hammie.open("default_bayes_customize.db", "dbm", "r") If it is something like that, add this after it and see what it prints out: print filters[-1].test.sb_hammie.bayes =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon May 10 02:44:19 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon May 10 02:44:30 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Habeas marked email In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13063B5B6C@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2C05@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Just found the Habeas related buttons in the experimental > configuration page and am wondering how habeas marked mail is > used. Presumably SpamBayes weights it towards 'Ham', but > what happens then? SpamBayes treats it as just another token (or nine tokens, depending on the second option), which might be towards ham or might be towards ham, depending on the presence of habeas headers in mail you've trained on. If the message has nine valid habeas headers, you've trained ham and no spam with nine valid habeas headers, then that'll be nine more strong ham clues for that message. If, on the other hand, habeas headers are equally likely in ham and spam for you, then the clues will be neutral. Note that it'll churn out a different clue depending on whether the header is valid or not (so valid headers could be ham clues and invalid headers spam clues, for example). > I normally read my email with just 'Normal' headers visible, > so I wouldn't see the Habeas headers so would be unlikely to > report Habeas abuse to Habeas.com. The way SpamBayes uses the headers doesn't really lend itself to reporting abuse, since it's not obvious when this occurs (there's no "I think this is spam, but it has the habeas headers" message, for example). However, if a spam has the headers, and they are strong ham clues for you, then it might be more likely to end up classified as unsure/ham. In this case, you'd look at the clues SpamBayes generated, see the habeas tokens, and realise that you need to report it as abuse. If you do end up turning these options on, it'd be great to hear back whether you feel they helped at all. Since they're an experimental option, they're fairly likely to disappear in the first post-1.0 release, since they haven't really demonstrated that they make a significant improvement to results (habeas headers just aren't that widely used). Feedback from users would help when making the decision whether to cut the option or not. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon May 10 02:50:35 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon May 10 02:50:55 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes on Outlook Express In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13063B5B72@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677DAB@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Of course, I get an error that no server is found, because no > one's monitoring 8110. Should I put "localhost:8110" somewhere, > or something? You need to put 8110 in the "SpamBayes Ports" option on the SpamBayes configuration page, yes. [from another message] > Everytime I enable Norton, it puts its own pop3 server where > localhost was, and every time I change it back, nothing > works. And if I leave it there, SpamBayes doesn't see anything. OK, I didn't realise that Norton was overriding any changes here. That means the chain will have to be rearranged to: OE <-> Norton <-> SpamBayes <-> Mail Server Let OE connect to pop3.norton.antivirus on port 110. Keep SpamBayes running on localhost 8110, but set the "Remote Servers" to pop.west.cox.net. Now tell Norton that your mail server is "localhost 8110", not "pop.west.cox.net 110". =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon May 10 02:54:19 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon May 10 02:54:24 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Configuration with Norton Antivirus HelpPlease In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13063B5B6A@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677DAC@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Problem is I am now without email virus > scanning protection. > I saw one user was instructed to put "pop3.norton.antivirus" > or something like that into to the spambayes server config > to set up a Server->Norton->SpamBayes->email client chaining... > I know above is not exactly what I tried, but I do know > that I tried the exact text I saw in the discussion list > posting but this didnt work for me. It's not working for him, either, yet :) (I don't have Norton, and don't use OE, so am answering blind, to a certain extent. I have read that others have successfully done this, though, so it can be done. (If only they were speaking up...) Keep watching the "RE: [Spambayes] Spambayes on Outlook Express" thread - the instructions should apply equally to you. If I understand things rightly now, Norton requires that it be connected to by SpamBayes, which means that you need to chain like: OE <-> Norton <-> SpamBayes <-> Mail Server So set SpamBayes to connect to the mail server, but proxy on 8110. Leave OE connecting to Norton (which I gather it does as soon as you enable Norton). Then tell Norton that your mail server is localhost 8110. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon May 10 02:57:10 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon May 10 02:57:19 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Bayes will not filter mail In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13063B5C0A@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677DAD@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > After working flawlesly for 3 months, Spam Bayes > no longer filters mail. Re-Installed 1.0b1 to see > if it would fix it. When trying to update the Ham > cutoff and Spam Cutoff the following error occurs. > Spam Bayes still will not filter mail. [...] > File "spambayes\OptionsClass.pyc", line 266, in convert > AttributeError: 'tuple' object has no attribute 'split' Something's wrong with your configuration file, but I can't tell what without seeing it. Have you edited it by hand at all? If so, then that's probably the problem place. If you like, send me a copy of the configuration file and I should be able to spot the problem. You can replace any private data (like server names) with "X"s, but leave all spaces exactly as they are. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon May 10 04:24:13 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon May 10 04:24:35 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Using SpamBayes as a "remote filter"? In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13063B5CB5@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677DB0@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> >> This indicates, I think, that there was some sort of problem >> opening the database, although I'm not sure why it gets set > > You were right. I got a wrong filename in line 348. > It's working now. :-))) Good to hear. > Thanks a lot. - Do you think, I should add an entry > to the wiki with my new (working) sb_culler.py? It would be great if you could add a comment indicating what changes you had to make etc. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon May 10 04:40:34 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon May 10 04:40:46 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: [spambayes-dev] Re: no messages to review In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13060E4B68@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2C06@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> [Sorry this is overly slow. Everyone's pretty busy at the moment.] > Today the proxy decided there were messages to review. I > have buttons "previous day" "refresh" "next day" and ended up > with 4 screenfuls of messages for training. > > If spambayes reports no messages to train but I have been receiving > messages, is there a simple way to check what criterion it is using? The simplest way is to look at the unknown cache directory. See if files are being created there. There should be one for every message that is received (the filename is the time it arrived). The interface should just be presenting (first) all messages received on the same day as the most recent message. Have you changed the rows_per_section option? Maybe something is going wrong with generation of the message's time? =Tony Meyer From michael at kimballpottery.com Mon May 10 09:51:19 2004 From: michael at kimballpottery.com (Michael Kimball) Date: Mon May 10 09:52:43 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Habeas marked email References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2C05@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <409F88D7.BEC5DABB@kimballpottery.com> Since so far the only Habeas marked email I've received has been from Habeas itself, and I am unlikely to receive any other legitimate Habeas marked mail, this may be a rather pointless exercise. If you DO drop it from the 1.0 release, is there any way I (or any other SB user) could add it back in. I thought I saw something about adding custom tokens/filters/wudayumucallums but I can't find it now. If I'm understanding the purpose/focus of Habeas, the only legitimate Habeas marked email I'd receive would be from mail lists I sign up for. If it isn't used by most of those lists I'd be unlikely to receive any. Hmmm maybe I should check the headers in some of the lists I've subscribed to but ignore. Maybe it is already there. (I subscribed to a few that I no longer read, but aren't ready to unsubscribe from. I've just set filters to drop them directly in the Trash folder for now) Tony Meyer wrote: > > > Just found the Habeas related buttons in the experimental > > configuration page and am wondering how habeas marked mail is > > used. Presumably SpamBayes weights it towards 'Ham', but > > what happens then? > > SpamBayes treats it as just another token (or nine tokens, depending on the > second option), which might be towards ham or might be towards ham, > depending on the presence of habeas headers in mail you've trained on. If > the message has nine valid habeas headers, you've trained ham and no spam > with nine valid habeas headers, then that'll be nine more strong ham clues > for that message. If, on the other hand, habeas headers are equally likely > in ham and spam for you, then the clues will be neutral. Note that it'll > churn out a different clue depending on whether the header is valid or not > (so valid headers could be ham clues and invalid headers spam clues, for > example). I've given this a bit more thought since my first post. I don't think there will be anything in the email that will point to Habeas headersa being valid or invalid. I think it is the server-based spam filters that determine this, by checking the Habeas whitelist. > > > I normally read my email with just 'Normal' headers visible, > > so I wouldn't see the Habeas headers so would be unlikely to > > report Habeas abuse to Habeas.com. > > The way SpamBayes uses the headers doesn't really lend itself to reporting > abuse, since it's not obvious when this occurs (there's no "I think this is > spam, but it has the habeas headers" message, for example). > > However, if a spam has the headers, and they are strong ham clues for you, > then it might be more likely to end up classified as unsure/ham. In this > case, you'd look at the clues SpamBayes generated, see the habeas tokens, > and realise that you need to report it as abuse. O.K. This makes sense. I should make a filter in my mail client to look for SpamBayes classified 'Spam' email that DOES contain Habeas marks. So there would be strong possibility that anything caught in that folder would be abused/invalid Habeas mail. > > If you do end up turning these options on, it'd be great to hear back > whether you feel they helped at all. Since they're an experimental option, > they're fairly likely to disappear in the first post-1.0 release, since they > haven't really demonstrated that they make a significant improvement to > results (habeas headers just aren't that widely used). Feedback from users > would help when making the decision whether to cut the option or not. I guess unless and until I get real email spam with counterfeit Habeas headers, I could cut and paste them into already received spam and retrain SB on those. > > =Tony Meyer > > --- > Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies > (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This > way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From denish at isocra.com Mon May 10 12:02:49 2004 From: denish at isocra.com (Denis Howlett) Date: Mon May 10 12:03:02 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: DBRunRecoveryError: -30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Message-ID: Hi folks, First, thanks for a great product, I and my colleagues use SpamBayes and we couldn't cope without it. I have developed the toolbar-buttons-not-working problem where, though SpamBayes continues to filter messages OK itself, The Delete as Spam and Recover from Spam buttons don't do anything any more (all the others work OK). Looking in the log file I have: bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') Moving and spam training message 'Your eBay Account Must Be Confirmed ' - Training on message 'Your eBay Account Must Be Confirmed ' in 'Denis's Folders/Inbox - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 283, in _Invoke_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 288, in _invoke_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 550, in _invokeex_ File "addin.pyc", line 637, in OnClick File "addin.pyc", line 161, in TrainAsSpam File "train.pyc", line 52, in train_message File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 273, in learn File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 384, in _add_msg File "spambayes\storage.pyc", line 281, in _wordinfoset File "shelve.pyc", line 130, in __setitem__ File "bsddb\__init__.pyc", line 120, in __setitem__ bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') So, I'm about to rebuild the database as you suggest in your FAQ. However, I thought you might be interested to know that this started happening because this morning I found that Outlook was running really slowly, it seemed to take several seconds to do anything (almost as if it was trying to do something and then timing out). I couldn't work out if this was because of SpamBayes or affecting it, but SpamBayes too was working so slowly that it was pretty much unusable. I tried to quit Outlook (this is Outlook 2000 BTW, with Windows XP), and had to terminate the program. After that the buttons wouldn't work. So, my bet is that my database is corrupted because I quit in the middle of SpamBayes doing something. This might be what happens to other people too? Hope this is useful, if not, sorry to waste your time! Regards, Denis From tim.one at comcast.net Mon May 10 12:16:58 2004 From: tim.one at comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Mon May 10 12:17:01 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: DBRunRecoveryError: -30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [Denis] > ... > So, my bet is that my database is corrupted because I quit in the > middle of SpamBayes doing something. This might be what happens to > other people too? Alas, we really don't know. I tried to provoke database corruption, under 3 different Outlook + SpamBayes installations, from time to time over the course of a year. I'd quit Outlook in the middle of things, kill it ungracefully via the Task Manager, and even power-cycle the box while SpamBayes was training. I frequently managed to provoke Outlook into corrupting its .pst files, and one time so badly I had to restore my main .pst from a backup -- but I was never able to provoke a SpamBayes database corruption error. > Hope this is useful, if not, sorry to waste your time! All clues are helpful -- especially in areas where we're still flying blind. It makes sense that stopping Outlook "in the middle" of doing something could lead to corruption, so the bigger mystery to me is actually why I wasn't able to reproduce these problems. From denish at isocra.com Mon May 10 12:27:17 2004 From: denish at isocra.com (Denis Howlett) Date: Mon May 10 12:27:25 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: DBRunRecoveryError: -30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Well I cheated a bit. In fact I've just upgraded from Win2K to XP so because the user changed, I had an old (and well trained) SpamBayes db in another directory and I decided that rather than have to re-train, I might as well try this old db (if it didn't work, I wouldn't be any worse off). I copied it into the appropriate place and it all works fine. Everything's back up and running. So I'm happy :-) Good luck and thanks again. Denis > [Denis] > > ... > > So, my bet is that my database is corrupted because I quit in the > > middle of SpamBayes doing something. This might be what happens to > > other people too? > > Alas, we really don't know. I tried to provoke database > corruption, under 3 > different Outlook + SpamBayes installations, from time to time over the > course of a year. I'd quit Outlook in the middle of things, kill it > ungracefully via the Task Manager, and even power-cycle the box while > SpamBayes was training. I frequently managed to provoke Outlook into > corrupting its .pst files, and one time so badly I had to restore my main > .pst from a backup -- but I was never able to provoke a SpamBayes database > corruption error. > > > Hope this is useful, if not, sorry to waste your time! > > All clues are helpful -- especially in areas where we're still > flying blind. > It makes sense that stopping Outlook "in the middle" of doing something > could lead to corruption, so the bigger mystery to me is actually why I > wasn't able to reproduce these problems. > > From TJLWBECGSGWU at spammotel.com Sat May 8 16:22:47 2004 From: TJLWBECGSGWU at spammotel.com (Mathew Hendry) Date: Mon May 10 13:44:59 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Question References: Message-ID: On Fri, 7 May 2004 21:14:20 -0400, "Rob Caldwell" wrote: >I have just installed SpamBayes and I am using Windows ME and Outlook 2000. >I noticed that the newly created folders, Junk E-Mail and Junk Suspects, >have the preview window opened. I have disabled all of my preview windows >in my other folders but cannot seem to turn off the preview windows in these >folders. I was advised to not have the preview windows opened because that >opens the file and the sender can see whether or not the file was opened. >How do I turn off these preview windows. As a workaround, create some new folders without preview panes, point SpamBayes at those instead, and delete the original folders. BTW, Outlook 2003 and, I think, recent versions of Outlook Express, remove this "web bug" problem by not downloading any remote content by default, whether in the preview pane or in normal message windows. This behaviour can be overridden on a per-message or per-sender basis. Since I'm forced into using Outlook 2000 at work, I have a personal firewall set up to allow Outlook to connect only to specific trusted addresses - more complicated, but better than disabling a useful feature like the preview pane. -- Mat. From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Mon May 10 14:12:17 2004 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Mon May 10 14:12:26 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Question Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5022CB21@SPIKE.city> It's a lot simpler to just change the view to one that doesn't display the preview pane. Bob > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces@python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of Mathew Hendry > Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 4:23 PM > To: spambayes@python.org > Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Question > > > On Fri, 7 May 2004 21:14:20 -0400, "Rob Caldwell" > wrote: > > >I have just installed SpamBayes and I am using Windows ME and Outlook 2000. > >I noticed that the newly created folders, Junk E-Mail and Junk Suspects, > >have the preview window opened. I have disabled all of my preview windows > >in my other folders but cannot seem to turn off the preview windows in these > >folders. I was advised to not have the preview windows opened because that > >opens the file and the sender can see whether or not the file was opened. > >How do I turn off these preview windows. > > As a workaround, create some new folders without preview panes, point > SpamBayes at those instead, and delete the original folders. > > BTW, Outlook 2003 and, I think, recent versions of Outlook Express, > remove this "web bug" problem by not downloading any remote content by > default, whether in the preview pane or in normal message windows. > This behaviour can be overridden on a per-message or per-sender basis. > > Since I'm forced into using Outlook 2000 at work, I have a personal > firewall set up to allow Outlook to connect only to specific trusted > addresses - more complicated, but better than disabling a useful > feature like the preview pane. > > -- Mat. From n909rj at hotmail.it Mon May 10 15:19:34 2004 From: n909rj at hotmail.it (Julianne Devine) Date: Mon May 10 16:27:42 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Message-ID: <6194i3mj15r2jl-s-8i$0jo9131e@dty.32d98.nx> Spambayes CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP BUY XANAXx VAL1UM VICOD1N Plus many more at super l0w pr1ces http://www.buycheapdrugs.biz iqsom bcwirtfycqvh atalx vzp saa From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon May 10 17:49:06 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon May 10 17:49:17 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Habeas marked email In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13063B5D5A@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2C07@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Since so far the only Habeas marked email I've received has > been from Habeas itself, and I am unlikely to receive any > other legitimate Habeas marked mail, this may be a rather > pointless exercise. Most of the Habeas marked mail I get is from the same sources (the TidBITS and TidBITS-Talk mailing lists, for example). OTOH, apart from a short burst last year, I don't get any spam with the headers. > If you DO drop it from the 1.0 release, > is there any way I (or any other SB user) could add it back > in. I thought I saw something about adding custom > tokens/filters/wudayumucallums but I can't find it now. If you run from the source, then it would be simple to add it back in. From the binary it'd be rather tricky. If there was ever demand for it, it wouldn't be that difficult to implement a 'plug-in' type system where you could get SpamBayes to ask a program for additional tokens, given a message, but that seems a way off yet, if it is ever required. > If I'm understanding the purpose/focus of Habeas, the only > legitimate Habeas marked email I'd receive would be from mail > lists I sign up for. Or individuals, yes. > I've given this a bit more thought since my first post. I > don't think there will be anything in the email that will > point to Habeas headersa being valid or invalid. I think it > is the server-based spam filters that determine this, by > checking the Habeas whitelist. Ah, we don't do anything with the whitelist (there are two types of Habeas validation - the whitelist, and the headers). What SpamBayes does is look at the headers and if the X-Habeas-SWE headers are there, it checks them against the correct values (the haiku etc) and generates either an "invalid" or a "valid" token. SpamBayes has the correct values hardcoded in the tokenizer. Using the whitelist, like (IIRC) a recent SpamAssassin update does, is much more tricky, because it means that SpamBayes has to send out a request and get a response. This is slow and requires an active Internet connection (so is more suited to server-side operation). If there was demand, we could implement it and see if it made much of a difference, but no-one's bothered as yet. (If we did, we could optionally connect to any number of white/black lists and generate tokens based on the results). > O.K. This makes sense. I should make a filter in my mail > client to look for SpamBayes classified 'Spam' email that > DOES contain Habeas marks. Yes, that would work. > So there would be strong possibility that anything caught in > that folder would be abused/invalid Habeas mail. Yes, it should either be that or a false positive by SpamBayes (which should be very rare). > I guess unless and until I get real email spam with > counterfeit Habeas headers, I could cut and paste them into > already received spam and retrain SB on those. I don't think counterfeit Habeas headers are at all common, so this probably wouldn't be worth it. Spam that adds the headers tends to add them correctly, I think. This is also another "stupid beats smart" case, where just leaving SpamBayes to do it's thing should work best. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From 0dradusa at rai.it Mon May 10 17:03:47 2004 From: 0dradusa at rai.it (Gabriel Knowles) Date: Mon May 10 19:05:58 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Message-ID: <2xg-$7r-zi-hkp7-f2@osmchrteh> Spambayes CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP BUY XANAXx VAL1UM VICOD1N Plus many more at super l0w pr1ces http://www.buycheapdrugs.biz fr zs k x vwhi p crtloh zdc qtvlvsh zgwpy wayawzvwt sefrgnl zcoe From 756zffy at juno.com Mon May 10 16:10:32 2004 From: 756zffy at juno.com (Andy Witt) Date: Mon May 10 20:10:40 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Message-ID: Spambayes CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP BUY XANAXx VAL1UM VICOD1N Plus many more at super l0w pr1ces http://www.buycheapdrugs.biz owipqlvnl emphyp z rdp g From umzkalp at juno.com Mon May 10 21:55:24 2004 From: umzkalp at juno.com (Olive Rubin) Date: Tue May 11 02:12:14 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Message-ID: <0-6kj102w--$3f6um@h1w73dw> Spambayes CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP BUY XANAXx VAL1UM VICOD1N Plus many more at super l0w pr1ces http://www.buycheapdrugs.biz qifatn g jjogu hh gw px d vsfox u From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue May 11 04:05:56 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue May 11 04:06:58 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Demand for support In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13063B5D59@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C020E@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Effectively you're right and French people often do the > mistake of using demand instead of request because it's so > close to our French "demande"which has no impolite meaning. > Sorry ! No need to apologise. I figured it was something like that, but thought maybe I should warn you since I can see that it would be easy for someone to (mistakenly) take offense. > I must apologize also about the fact that the reason of those > problems was completely on my side. The strange behaviour(s) > I observed came from the size of my "pst" ( almost 2GB!) file > and my trouble came from the fact that I installed SpamBayes > 2 days before. > > I'll try not to disturb you again with such problems. No worries; glad that it's all going right now. > 1-When SpamBayes automatically classifies mails in "Junk > E-mail" folder, may I consider it improved its knowledge of > Spam with each of the mails classified there ? No, it does not do this, deliberately. Since it already knows how to classify those messages correctly, there isn't any need to train on those messages. (See also the comments below). > 2-Same question with the mails claissified as "Junk suspects" > after I select them and click on "Delete as Spam" ? Yes, when you click "Delete as Spam" SpamBayes updates its database (knowledge) using that message. (The same applies to the "Recover from Spam" button). > 3-SpamBayes Manager indicates to me : "You have much more > spam than ham. SpamBayes works best with approximately even > numbers of Spam and ham". It's true that we mainly receive > spam, and that's precisely why we're evaluating > SpamBayes. Do you have any comments about it ? You'll get better results by not simply training on everything that arrives. Although it might seem that the more you feed SpamBayes the better things will be, this is not actually the case - the 'hand waving' explanation is that the real clues are drowned out by inconsequential ones. If you only train on any mistakes that SpamBayes makes, and all mail that ends up in "Junk Suspects", that should work well. You'll probably still end up training more spam than ham, but the ratio won't be as bad as if you simply trained on everything. Lowering the 'spam threshold' from 90% to 80% would also help this. This 'mistake based training' is really what the Outlook plug-in is designed for, and you'll find it the most convenient, as well as (probably) effective. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue May 11 04:12:29 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue May 11 04:12:39 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Imported DB to Data Folder but SpamBayes Manager says'no training info'. In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13063B5D6A@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C020F@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Sorry I didn't get back to you but I was away camping. No worries. Thanks for letting us know that things are resolved - it's always better to have the solution/resolution posted so that anyone looking in the future can find it, and so that we know that we don't need to do anything further. > Anyway, I tried to delete that file while Outlook was open, > but of course since Spam Bayes was running it wouldn't let me. > So after I used Spam Bayes to open the data folder, I just > closed Outlook. Then I just deleted the bayes db file and then > recopied it in from my back up. I re-opened Outlook and all > was fine!!!!!!!!! Great :) > Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that I was coping > these files into the directory while Outlook was open? Possibly. If SpamBayes was running, and you copied them in, then it might have overwritten it with a fresh database. I should remember to tell people to make sure Outlook is closed before doing this in the future. > Or initially I included the .ini files? That shouldn't matter. > I don't know but I'm back up and running. Thanks again so VERY > much for your help. I really like Spam Bayes so I wanted to > keep using it. I will make a donation soon, probably today > (can't remember, I think I probably already have, but tech support > is a very valuable thing these days!!). We're happy to help, donations or not (they're gratefully received, of course, but there's no obligation, whether you get support or not). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue May 11 04:19:47 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue May 11 04:19:59 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes issue? In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13060E44D4@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677DC1@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> [Excuse the delay in replying] > I have noticed since installing Spambayes, my outlook > will no longer shut down properly. When I close outlook, > it remains in my list of items running and I must > manually shut it down from the cntrl-alt-delete menu. > If anyone has any suggestions on how to fix this problem, > I would greatly appreciate it. Is it definitely not shutting down, rather than simply taking a long time? If you disable SpamBayes (in the SpamBayes Manager untick the "Enable SpamBayes" button) does this still happen? Does it still happen if you uninstall SpamBayes? (If you uninstall then reinstall, you won't lose any training or configuration data). Have you tried running Outlook's "Detect and Repair"? =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue May 11 04:25:37 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue May 11 04:25:48 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Junk suspects folder is always empty In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13060E47AD@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677DC2@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> [Excuse the delay in replying] > Yesterday I downloaded your program I installed it > and tried it (I use Microsoft Outlook and Win XP Pro). > > According to what I read in the help documents I thought > I would see all the incoming e-mails going to the > "Junk suspects" folder, then I should train the program > by putting the good and bad messages in the correct folders > etc. It really depends on what you did with the Wizard that should have popped up the first time you started Outlook after installing SpamBayes. If you gave it training data then, then SpamBayes already knows how to classify (to a certain extent) and so will do so. If you don't give it any training data then, then all mail should score 0.5 and end up in the "Junk Suspects" folder, yes. > The problem is that while receiving my mails I didn't > see any messages being put into the "Junk suspects" folder. > Isn't this supposed to be done automatically? Or you > think I have configured the program incorrectly? My > mails went straight to my Inbox instead. Did you do any training? If you only trained on ham (good mail), then everything will look like ham to SpamBayes, and so everything will end up in the Inbox. You don't say whether spam is going into the inbox too - is it? If you train it (by clicking the "Delete as Spam" button), does it learn in future? If you go to the Manager (SpamBayes button on the toolbar -> SpamBayes Manager), how many messages does it say have been trained? > By the way, I would strongly suggest that you review the > help documents and if possible to provide a step by step > tutorial about training the program, as I think that such > a tutorial would be quite easy for you to write but yet > very useful to your users. The problem is that it's hard for us to know what people will have trouble with. If you could give us examples of things that weren't clear (ideally with suggestions about how it could be clearer), we're happy to update things. The wizard is really designed to replace any need for step-by-step instructions for getting started with the plug-in - it should guide you through everything that's nececessary. Did you go through the Wizard? Were some things unclear? If so, which ones, and why? =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue May 11 04:32:08 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue May 11 04:32:24 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SB does not see my Outlook mailbox In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13060E4A18@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0210@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> [Sorry about the delay in replying] > I have been using SB since .88, and a few weeks ago, > it stopped working. I upgraded SB to 1.0b1, with no luck. > > Here are the details: > My PC: Win2K sp4, loads of ram, blah blah, > I am using Outlook 2000 SP-3 (9.0.0.6627), Corporate > or Workgroup - Security Update (that's what the About... says) > > I have Outlook configured so that when it opens, there > are three additional mailboxes that open, along with > my personal mailbox. The other mailboxes are for various > 'wembaster@' accounts. Are these additional .pst files, or Exchange accounts, or ... ? > When I launch the SB Configuration Wizard, and go to pick > a folder, my personal Outlook mailbox (in the Outlook folder > list, it appears to be a little multi-house-clock-calendar > icon) does not show up as an option! The other mailboxes > show up, but not the main one. I suspect this means that they're Exchange stores. There have been reported of problems recently with using multiple Exchange accounts, but I thought that they were all post-0.8, and they don't seem quite the same as this. In any case, what we need to see is your log file. The troubleshooting guide explains where to find it. If you could send us that, we should be able to see where things are going wrong (and the reply should be much quicker next time). > I completely uninstalled and reinstalled SB. The very first > time it ran, yes, my mailbox appeared. I proceded to let SB > train on my sorted mail, and it said it did. However, SB never > really ran after that. A return to the Configuration Wizard > brought back the 'no mailbox' problem. > > Note: I have no way of being sure that our system folks here > haven't done something behind the scenes to interfere with the > normal operation of SB. It sounds like there's some sort of trouble accessing that store. The log should have the details, though. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue May 11 04:39:23 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue May 11 04:39:36 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problems with Spambayes (Under Advanced tab/Statisticsshowing "Spambayes has processed zero messages") In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13060E48E2@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677DC4@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> [Sorry about the delay in replying] > Had a problem with Outlook last Friday and had a ROYAL > mess on my hands getting it fixed. Had to restore the > previous days OUTLOOK.PST, etc. Somehow along with all > of this Spambayes got hosed to I downloaded and installed > the latest version (1.0b1 April 2004) and "trained" it. > I have Definite Spam and Probable Spam folders and since > this has happened there has been NOTHING new added to > Probable Spam but Definite Spam is getting stuff. Is your inbox still getting all your good mail, too? You could check the Filtering tab in the SpamBayes Manager. Check that the folders you think you are using are the ones that SpamBayes has (you'll need to click Browse to check that the folder is the right one and not simply one with the same name). Check that the thresholds are correctly set (i.e. if they are both 50%, then everything will be either good or bad, and nothing unsure). How many messages have you trained? Maybe your log file would have more clues? You could send that to us - the troubleshooting guide explains where to find it. > If I check under the Advanced tab/Statistics it shows > Spambayes has processed zero messages and I assume that > is not kosher ? Well, note that the statistics are not (yet) persistent between sessions - i.e. every time you start Outlook up the stats will be zero. They shouldn't *stay* at zero, though, while Outlook is open. If they do, and SpamBayes is actually filtering mail (i.e. mail ends up in the spam folder and also in the ham folder, as it should), then something is very weird, and the log file is definitely required to figure it out. > I hit the help on line/FAQ, etc. and didn't really find > anything that helped in this particular situation. I don't recall seeing it before either, which makes it somewhat more difficult... =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue May 11 04:51:54 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue May 11 04:52:05 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: folder selection problems In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13063B5B6B@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0211@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > >>> I installed the beta version 1.0b1 and the behavior changed. > >>> > >>> Aaron > >>> Inbox > >>> Info > >>> Inbox > >>> Other > >>> > >>> Given mailbox accounts like this, if I select the Inbox under > >>> Info, I get messagebox > >>> > >>> Please select child folder - top-level folders can't be used [...] > I tried rc1 and am still getting message about top level > folders can not be used. Drat. I'm not sure why this would be, but a number of people have reported it, so it's not likely that it's something specific to your setup. Unfortunately, I don't have access to more than one Exchange account, so it's hard to test things out here. I'll try and convince a colleague to give me temporary access to their account tomorrow, so maybe I'll be able to figure out more then. Otherwise, the best I can do is try and add more debugging information to the next release, or build a special debugging release, and get you to try that. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From Amir_Katz at bmc.com Tue May 11 06:21:40 2004 From: Amir_Katz at bmc.com (Katz, Amir) Date: Tue May 11 06:22:00 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes issue? (Outlook not shutting down) Message-ID: FWIW, I've been fighting a long time with the problem of Outlook occasionally not shutting down. I had this problem long before I installed SB, and our IT people are at loss why this happens. I simply kill Outlook (and the associated process MAPISP32), wait till both are gone from the task manager, and all is well. The only downside is that upon the next time Outlook is started, it takes a longer time, assumingly since it is fixing what was left open when it was forcibly shut down. I have Windows 2000 professional, Outlook 2000 SP3, local PST file of 800 MB. Amir -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 11:20 To: 'Missy Owen'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Spambayes issue? [Excuse the delay in replying] > I have noticed since installing Spambayes, my outlook > will no longer shut down properly. When I close outlook, > it remains in my list of items running and I must > manually shut it down from the cntrl-alt-delete menu. > If anyone has any suggestions on how to fix this problem, > I would greatly appreciate it. Is it definitely not shutting down, rather than simply taking a long time? If you disable SpamBayes (in the SpamBayes Manager untick the "Enable SpamBayes" button) does this still happen? Does it still happen if you uninstall SpamBayes? (If you uninstall then reinstall, you won't lose any training or configuration data). Have you tried running Outlook's "Detect and Repair"? =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From mpeterson at domaininc.com Tue May 11 09:15:18 2004 From: mpeterson at domaininc.com (Marti Peterson) Date: Tue May 11 09:06:08 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Deleted Junk Mail folder Message-ID: <001901c4375a$01dd6f50$69c6c9c8@domaininc.com> Someone else set up my computer with Spambayes. I accidentally deleted the junk mail folder when I meant to delete it's contents. How do I reset it up? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040511/e183fedb/attachment.html From michael at kimballpottery.com Tue May 11 10:51:30 2004 From: michael at kimballpottery.com (Michael Kimball) Date: Tue May 11 10:53:01 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Habeas marked email References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2C07@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <40A0E872.32C8C635@kimballpottery.com> Tony Meyer wrote: > > > Since so far the only Habeas marked email I've received has > > been from Habeas itself, and I am unlikely to receive any > > other legitimate Habeas marked mail, this may be a rather > > pointless exercise. > > Most of the Habeas marked mail I get is from the same sources (the TidBITS > and TidBITS-Talk mailing lists, for example). OTOH, apart from a short > burst last year, I don't get any spam with the headers. OK, maybe I'll signup for those for a while, just to get the legitimate Habeas marked email. (which should leave me with a SpamBayes installation that knows how to do one trick that it is never called upon to do :) > > > If you DO drop it from the 1.0 release, > > is there any way I (or any other SB user) could add it back > > in. I thought I saw something about adding custom > > tokens/filters/wudayumucallums but I can't find it now. > > If you run from the source, then it would be simple to add it back in. From > the binary it'd be rather tricky. If there was ever demand for it, it > wouldn't be that difficult to implement a 'plug-in' type system where you > could get SpamBayes to ask a program for additional tokens, given a message, > but that seems a way off yet, if it is ever required. > > > If I'm understanding the purpose/focus of Habeas, the only > > legitimate Habeas marked email I'd receive would be from mail > > lists I sign up for. > > Or individuals, yes. This one still puzzles me. I've asked Habeas, but so far have only received the automated reply from support, but the individual license still requires the recipients have an opportunity to 'opt-out' / or somehow indicate that they do agree to receive the email I'd send them. Sending personal email to a few friends and family doesn't seem to me to be the situation that warrents this. WITHOUT that requirement, I would think Habeas marking personal email would be 'a good thing', especially with so much of the spam and virus mailers co-opt innocent individuals' address books, so the spam appears to come from a legitimate and trusted source. > > > I've given this a bit more thought since my first post. I > > don't think there will be anything in the email that will > > point to Habeas headersa being valid or invalid. I think it > > is the server-based spam filters that determine this, by > > checking the Habeas whitelist. > > Ah, we don't do anything with the whitelist (there are two types of Habeas > validation - the whitelist, and the headers). What SpamBayes does is look > at the headers and if the X-Habeas-SWE headers are there, it checks them > against the correct values (the haiku etc) and generates either an "invalid" > or a "valid" token. SpamBayes has the correct values hardcoded in the > tokenizer. Hmm. I'd assumed counterfeiters would counterfeit the entire mark, the headers and the exact haiku content of the headers. It never occurred to me that anyone might counterfeit just the headers, but with different content. From the Habeas explanation about being able to copyright a poem but not the individual words, I'd assumed the headers (header names) were NOT protected, just the poem. So counterfeiting the headers, but using entirely original header content would not be defended against. So any spam checker would have to do what you are doing, check the ENTIRE Habeas mark. Would it be possible for SpamBayes to generate yet another addition to the checked email, not a header this time, but plain text at the end of the email, to the effect that "SpamBayes has determined this email appears to be Habeas Sender Warranted Email"? I'm thinking most email recipients do NOT normally have all headers visible so would normally wouldn't know ... Never mind. This would be Habeas's responsibility, not SpamBayes'. Anyone using SpamBayes and looking for the Habeas marks would probably be setting up their email client filters to catch Habeas marked email that nevertheless appears to be spam. > > Using the whitelist, like (IIRC) a recent SpamAssassin update does, is much > more tricky, because it means that SpamBayes has to send out a request and > get a response. This is slow and requires an active Internet connection (so > is more suited to server-side operation). If there was demand, we could > implement it and see if it made much of a difference, but no-one's bothered > as yet. (If we did, we could optionally connect to any number of > white/black lists and generate tokens based on the results). > > > O.K. This makes sense. I should make a filter in my mail > > client to look for SpamBayes classified 'Spam' email that > > DOES contain Habeas marks. > > Yes, that would work. > > > So there would be strong possibility that anything caught in > > that folder would be abused/invalid Habeas mail. > > Yes, it should either be that or a false positive by SpamBayes (which should > be very rare). > > > I guess unless and until I get real email spam with > > counterfeit Habeas headers, I could cut and paste them into > > already received spam and retrain SB on those. > > I don't think counterfeit Habeas headers are at all common, so this probably > wouldn't be worth it. Spam that adds the headers tends to add them > correctly, I think. This is also another "stupid beats smart" case, where > just leaving SpamBayes to do it's thing should work best. > > =Tony Meyer > > --- > Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies > (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This > way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From colin.mac at blueyonder.co.uk Tue May 11 10:57:47 2004 From: colin.mac at blueyonder.co.uk (Colin) Date: Tue May 11 10:57:47 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Message-ID: I looked in the FAQ's to see how SpamBayes relates to existing Outlook rules. I've just downloaded SpamBayes for a trial. I have a number of these rules in place, and want to know how to use/ignore them. Most of my rules relate to moving to a sub folder which sorts my mail nicely, but I had some very effective rules relating to junk, which I had built up over the years. What I want to know is whether SpamBayes evaluates mail before or after Outlook rules are applied. This will help me to decide which to keep, which to discard. Many thanks Colin ***************************************** Colin McDonald colin.mac@blueyonder.co.uk ***************************************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040511/f29ee092/attachment.html From tim.one at comcast.net Tue May 11 11:08:16 2004 From: tim.one at comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Tue May 11 11:08:10 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [Colin] > I looked in the FAQ's to see how SpamBayes relates to existing > Outlook rules. I've just downloaded SpamBayes for a trial. > > I have a number of these rules in place, and want to know how to > use/ignore them. Most of my rules relate to moving to a sub folder > which sorts my mail nicely, but I had some very effective rules > relating to junk, which I had built up over the years. > > What I want to know is whether SpamBayes evaluates mail before or > after Outlook rules are applied. Microsoft didn't document when exactly rules get executed. By obvservation, sometimes Outlook tells spambayes about a new message before rules on that message fire, sometimes after, sometimes both before and after, and (rarely) not at all. Heh -- some guidance . The most likely outcome also seems to depend on specific Outlook version and system load. If you go to the Advanced tab of the SpamBayes manager dialog, you can enable "background filtering", and fiddle some time parameters. The effect of this is to slow SpamBayes down. If you set the delays long enough, Outlook rules should reliably run before SpamBayes is told about new msgs. No reliable way is known to get Spambayes to run before Outlook rules fire. From papaDoc at videotron.ca Tue May 11 11:13:58 2004 From: papaDoc at videotron.ca (papaDoc) Date: Tue May 11 11:14:36 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40A0EDB6.7030503@videotron.ca> Colin wrote: > I looked in the FAQ's to see how SpamBayes relates to existing Outlook > rules. I've just downloaded SpamBayes for a trial. > > I have a number of these rules in place, and want to know how to > use/ignore them. Most of my rules relate to moving to a sub folder > which sorts my mail nicely, but I had some very effective rules > relating to junk, which I had built up over the years. > > What I want to know is whether SpamBayes evaluates mail before or > after Outlook rules are applied. This will help me to decide which to > keep, which to discard. You can instead have all your messages be filtered by SpamBayes *after* all of your rules are run (you need to be using the version > 008.1, of the plug-in). On the advanced tab of the SpamBayes dialog, enable the "background filtering" option. This should have the desired effect. You can then get SpamBayes to watch all the folders that mail is moved to. Remi -- /"\ \ / X ASCII Ribbon Campaign / \ Against HTML Email From askoorb at fastmail.fm Tue May 11 11:31:27 2004 From: askoorb at fastmail.fm (Alex Brooks) Date: Tue May 11 11:31:36 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] The joys of error messages. Message-ID: <40A0F1CF.2040404@fastmail.fm> Hi, I'm having problems when running spambayes (python sb_imapfilter.py -c -t -v ) and am getting the following errors: Classifying *****.*Traceback (most recent call last): File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 928, in ? run() File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 918, in run imap_filter.Filter() File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 789, in Filter self.unsure_folder) File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 707, in Filter evidence=True) File "D:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\classifier.py", line 190, in chi 2_spamprob clues = self._getclues(wordstream) File "D:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\classifier.py", line 493, in _ge tclues tup = self._worddistanceget(word) File "D:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\classifier.py", line 508, in _wo rddistanceget prob = self.probability(record) File "D:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\classifier.py", line 308, in pro bability assert hamcount <= nham AssertionError Wondering if anyone knows what's going on or what to do to solve it, as I can no longer filter spam. Thanks Alex From papaDoc at videotron.ca Tue May 11 11:45:35 2004 From: papaDoc at videotron.ca (papaDoc) Date: Tue May 11 11:45:50 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] The joys of error messages. In-Reply-To: <40A0F1CF.2040404@fastmail.fm> References: <40A0F1CF.2040404@fastmail.fm> Message-ID: <40A0F51F.4070908@videotron.ca> Hi Alex, > Hi, I'm having problems when running spambayes (python > sb_imapfilter.py -c -t -v ) and am getting the following errors: > > Classifying > *****.*Traceback (most recent call last): > File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 928, in ? > run() > File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 918, in run > imap_filter.Filter() > File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 789, in Filter > self.unsure_folder) > File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 707, in Filter > evidence=True) > File "D:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\classifier.py", line > 190, in chi > 2_spamprob > clues = self._getclues(wordstream) > File "D:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\classifier.py", line > 493, in _ge > tclues > tup = self._worddistanceget(word) > File "D:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\classifier.py", line > 508, in _wo > rddistanceget > prob = self.probability(record) > File "D:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\classifier.py", line > 308, in pro > bability > assert hamcount <= nham > AssertionError > > Wondering if anyone knows what's going on or what to do to solve it, > as I can no longer filter spam. Usually this mean that there is a problem with the database and you will probably need to retrain from scratch. When you train or untrain a message try to use always the original mesage not a copy since Spambayes add Header to the mail indicating "This message was train as ham/spam" and when you untrain. the It can undo what it did. What can be interesting is what did you do to get this ? Since this is still an open problem. Remi -- /"\ \ / X ASCII Ribbon Campaign / \ Against HTML Email From vistagroup at bellsouth.net Tue May 11 13:30:15 2004 From: vistagroup at bellsouth.net (Stan) Date: Tue May 11 13:28:05 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Relocate Spambayes Userfiles... Message-ID: I'm running Spambayes with W2K-SP4 and by default cache and db files for Outlook and Pop3 (I use both methods) are stored in a directory in my Applications profile under C:\Documents and Settings\etc... Is there a way to change the location? I'd like to move everything (or as much as possible) to another drive. Thanks and congrats on a great product :) Stan PS: Reply to list only, my email address is forged From tim.one at comcast.net Tue May 11 13:48:54 2004 From: tim.one at comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Tue May 11 13:48:54 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Deleted Junk Mail folder In-Reply-To: <001901c4375a$01dd6f50$69c6c9c8@domaininc.com> Message-ID: [Marti Peterson] > Someone else set up my computer with Spambayes. I accidentally > deleted the junk mail folder when I meant to delete it's contents. Good for you! Almost everyone does this sooner or later, but you're one of the very few to realize that you did it to yourself -- good eye. > How do I reset it up? If you caught it in time, your junk mail folder probably just got moved, to be a sub-folder of Deleted Items. If so, you can use your mouse to drag it back to where it used to be. Else see the FAQ: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html and look for "Help! I deleted the Unsure/Spam folder". From postmastereu at mailem.tmp.com Tue May 11 13:42:33 2004 From: postmastereu at mailem.tmp.com (InterScan Notification) Date: Tue May 11 13:54:30 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] InterScan MSS has quarantined a message Message-ID: This notification has been sent to inform you that a message has been quarantined by InterScan MSS. Sender: spambayes@python.org Recipient: agents@monster.fr Subject: Re: Secure SMTP Message Date and time: Tue May 11 18:42:33 2004 From neel at mediapulse.com Tue May 11 14:30:57 2004 From: neel at mediapulse.com (Michael C. Neel) Date: Tue May 11 14:31:03 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Trouble with the IMAP filter Message-ID: <1084300257.4058.21.camel@mike> I'm currently trying to setup spambayes to filter more than one account. To do this i'm running a cron job (OS is FC1 w/Python2.3) that is simply: cd /home/neel/sb/mep/ sb_imapfilter.py -c -t -e y > /dev/null cd /home/neel/sb/nel/ sb_imapfilter.py -c -t -e y > /dev/null Each IMAP account is setup completely seperatly, and do not share a database. Currently, the second account only moves the messages to the spam/suspect folders and records the score if the spambayes.messageinfo.db does *not* exist, i.e. it creates it. If the file does exist, then the email is marked with a dpambayes-id header, but nothing more. I'm searching around for anyone with a similar problem, but if someone can point me in the right direction I'd be greatful. I'm also no stranger to python, and have no problems playing with the source for a more detail log if needed. Thanks, Mike -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Clicking on (highlighting) the right mailboxes fixed the problem. Suddenly, the "Junk E-Mail" box had hundreds of entries, including a lot of new ones. Roger Burchett EDL Displays, Inc. From geoffturner at supanet.com Tue May 11 15:08:52 2004 From: geoffturner at supanet.com (Geoff) Date: Tue May 11 15:25:15 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Vanished Menus Message-ID: <000001c4378d$a646a2e0$09926fd4@TurnerG> Hi. Hope I'm not wasting your time. Spambays is working fine but the "inboxes" which were automatically visible (i.e. "Junk Mail", "Suspected, etc." have disappeared & I can't find any way of recovering them. Should I just return to defaults? I am running XP Home and Outlook 2000. I have recently installed Sygate Personal Firewall but I am almost sure that the items vanished prior to that installation. I also use Reg Supreme, could I have removed a relevant registry key or value? Thanks for your help. I'm more a "newbie" than a geek but is there any way I can contribute? Regards Geoff From eynmdbi at hotmail.it Mon May 10 19:23:40 2004 From: eynmdbi at hotmail.it (Maritza Black) Date: Tue May 11 15:32:00 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Infomation you wanted Message-ID: <073$w$c1$-8$3$53-f1$gd$-v7@h8s.9pt> Spambayes CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP BUY XANAXx VAL1UM VICOD1N Plus many more at super l0w pr1ces http://www.buycheapdrugs.biz hpw g uyk ppzd ej aovdr igp hydf ybfbx x nr sewtzamh gue emqjpw iuqgmjbnifen rdgzj From arvid at linux.se Tue May 11 17:16:30 2004 From: arvid at linux.se (Arvid Andersson) Date: Tue May 11 17:16:39 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] The joys of error messages. In-Reply-To: <40A0F51F.4070908@videotron.ca> References: <40A0F1CF.2040404@fastmail.fm> <40A0F51F.4070908@videotron.ca> Message-ID: <20040511211630.GA11481@shell.linux.se> On Tue, May 11, 2004 at 11:45:35AM -0400, papaDoc wrote: > > Usually this mean that there is a problem with the database and you will > probably need to retrain from scratch. I see these corrupt database questions quite often on this list. How come the answer to a corrupt database is always "retrain from scratch"? I know it's not spambayes' job to make backups, but a simple weekly backup for people who don't normally make backups wouldn't be too hard to fit into the program, would it? I mean losing the email, the vacation pictures and all the work is one thing, having to retrain spambayes... that would be horrible! I don't know how common these corrupt databases are. Maybe it's not an issue. It hasn't happened to me yet, but when it does, I'll just cp .hammiedb.backup .hammidb ;) /Arvid From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue May 11 22:12:20 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue May 11 22:13:17 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: folder selection problems In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0211@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677DCD@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> [Tony Meyer] > Unfortunately, I don't have access to more than one Exchange > account, so it's hard to test things out here. I'll try and > convince a colleague to give me temporary access to their > account tomorrow, so maybe I'll be able to figure out more then. I did this, and was easily able to duplicate the problem. It seems that additional Exchange accounts don't have quite the same hierarchy as post files or the main Exchange account. I've checked in a fix (it all works here with multiple Exchange accounts after the fix) so it should be fixed in the next release (1.0rc2 or 1.0). Until then, from my testing it appears that you can select folders on the other Exchange account, just not the ones at the top, so you could insert a dummy folder at the top and move everything into it, and filter it then. Ugly, but it would work, and since it's moving within a store all the rules etc should still work. Hopefully a new release isn't that far off, though. (Something like this: Aaron Inbox Info Dummy Inbox Other ) =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue May 11 22:28:02 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue May 11 22:28:08 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Relocate Spambayes Userfiles... In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13063B5FF3@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677DCF@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I'm running Spambayes with W2K-SP4 and by default cache and db files > for Outlook and Pop3 (I use both methods) are stored in a directory > in my Applications profile under C:\Documents and Settings\etc... > > Is there a way to change the location? I'd like to move everything > (or as much as possible) to another drive. Yes. Instructions for doing this are found by SpamBayes->Help->About SpamBayes->Configuration Guide. They're down the end under "multiple configuration files". Basically you create a "default_configuration.ini" file, put it in either the directory you installed SpamBayes into (C:\Program Files\SpamBayes, for example) or the default data directory (C:\Documents and Settings\ etc). In the file you put: """ [General] data_directory:c:\other\directory """ And you're done. Best to do this when Outlook is not running, and you may also wish to copy the files from the old location to the new one. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From nauman at SOFTWARE.ORG Tue May 11 22:40:18 2004 From: nauman at SOFTWARE.ORG (nauman@SOFTWARE.ORG) Date: Tue May 11 22:34:55 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: folder selection problems Message-ID: <7CE14DF2E53BD5118B2400902745F047025D484B@jefferson.software.org> > I've checked in a fix (it all works here with multiple > Exchange accounts > after the fix) so it should be fixed in the next release > (1.0rc2 or 1.0). Tony, Thanks for the update. I will test as soon as a release is available. Aaron From nauman at SOFTWARE.ORG Tue May 11 22:43:06 2004 From: nauman at SOFTWARE.ORG (nauman@SOFTWARE.ORG) Date: Tue May 11 22:37:42 2004 Subject: FW: [Spambayes] RE: folder selection problems Message-ID: <7CE14DF2E53BD5118B2400902745F047025D484C@jefferson.software.org> > I've checked in a fix (it all works here with multiple > Exchange accounts > after the fix) so it should be fixed in the next release > (1.0rc2 or 1.0). Tony, Thanks for the update. I will test as soon as a release is available. Aaron From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue May 11 22:37:49 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue May 11 22:38:35 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Trouble with the IMAP filter In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13063B601A@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0213@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I'm currently trying to setup spambayes to filter > more than one account. To do this i'm running a cron > job (OS is FC1 w/Python2.3) that is simply: > > cd /home/neel/sb/mep/ > sb_imapfilter.py -c -t -e y > /dev/null > cd /home/neel/sb/nel/ > sb_imapfilter.py -c -t -e y > /dev/null What version of SpamBayes is this? Could you try 1.0rc1 and see if that fixes the problem? (1.0rc1 is available, but the announce post hasn't been sent out yet). > Each IMAP account is setup completely seperatly, and do > not share a database. Currently, the second account only > moves the messages to the spam/suspect folders and records > the score if the spambayes.messageinfo.db does *not* exist, > i.e. it creates it. If the file does exist, then the email > is marked with a spambayes-id header, but nothing more. Could you manually run the second account with an existing spambayes.messageinfo.db with '-i4' and capture the output? This will churn out the IMAP conversation and give clues about where something is going wrong. Note that the output will include your username and password in plain text, so blank those out before you send the log along. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From nauman at SOFTWARE.ORG Tue May 11 22:58:49 2004 From: nauman at SOFTWARE.ORG (nauman@SOFTWARE.ORG) Date: Tue May 11 22:53:27 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] proposal for handling the evil folder icon mail indicator Message-ID: <7CE14DF2E53BD5118B2400902745F047025D484D@jefferson.software.org> I know there has been some reluctance to mess with the folder icon incoming mail indicator. I haven't followed the discussions on this list, but I read the FAQ. As I understand it, you don't want to remove the folder icon when trashing spam, b/c there might be ham waiting to be read. I propose that when trashing a spam that spam bayes search through all the folders it is filtering and check if they include unread mail. If they don't include anything that is unread, then usually we can assume there is no new mail and can whack the folder icon. I am sure there are instances where people move email to unfiltered folders with outlook rules. They probably would not want this behavior, so I suggest adding an option to enable it. Sorry if this is a dup suggestion. Aaron From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue May 11 22:54:18 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue May 11 22:54:32 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] The joys of error messages. In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13063B6077@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0214@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > How come the answer to a corrupt database is always "retrain > from scratch"? (a) Retraining is a trivial task, and it takes only a few messages to get good accuracy again. Assuming that people keep a little bit of mail around (which we recommend), then retraining is very quick. It's not like you lose important information. (b) There isn't any way (that we know of) to recover the database. If you could, then this would obviously be better. > I know it's not spambayes' job to make > backups, but a simple weekly backup for people who don't > normally make backups wouldn't be too hard to fit into the > program, would it? Some people (particularly *nix people) believe that a program should do only one thing, and do that well. Turning SpamBayes into a backup program isn't really necessary. If people want to back up their database, it's a trivial thing to do, and should easily fit into their existing backup system. An additional problem is that the DB_RUN_RECOVERY error doesn't necessarily occur the very first time after the db is corrupted. Testing shows that it can be several accesses later. This means that you can't simply use the last good db, you'd have to have a whole lot of them. Anyway, anyone that doesn't normally make backups either doesn't care about their data, are na?ve, or are stupid. Sooner or later, data gets lost. > I mean losing the email, the vacation pictures and all the > work is one thing, having to retrain spambayes... that would > be horrible! Why? It takes just a few moments to do, assuming you have mail sitting around to train it on. If not, then you just have a day or two when you get a lot of mail in your unsure folder and have to be a bit more careful looking for false positives/negatives. > I don't know how common these corrupt databases are. Maybe > it's not an issue. They are a lot less common than they once were. We've managed to eliminate the majority of the causes. It appears that the main reasons left are people doing things like having two processes access the db at once (not supported), or killing a process in the middle of training. It's difficult to avoid corruption in those circumstances, but they should be rare. Our goal, really (mine, at least), is to eliminate the remaining rare cases of corruption, rather than force a backup system on everyone. Of course, this *is* open-source - you (or anyone else) is free to patch one in yourself... The best solution (it seems) is to move away from the bsddb-based dbm that is currently the default, or to move to a proper transactional system using that dbm (which would allow recovery). This is a lot of work, though, and ideally requires someone with lots of experience working with databases. For the moment, there are other options - if you run from source, you can use a pickle, mysql, pgsql, or (kinda) zeo. None of these will give you the same corruption problem. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue May 11 22:57:17 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue May 11 22:58:51 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Vanished Menus In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13063B603A@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677DD2@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Spambays is working fine > but the "inboxes" which were automatically visible (i.e. > "Junk Mail", "Suspected, etc." have disappeared & I can't > find any way of recovering them. Should I just return to > defaults? I imagine that you've inadvertently deleted these folders (it's easy to do, and happens to lots of people all the time). They're probably still there in the Deleted Items folder, gathering mail. FAQ 3.13 talks about this, but you can basically just move them back out. > Thanks for your help. I'm more a "newbie" than a geek but is > there any way I can contribute? Absolutely. Start with FAQ 4.15: Basically you can read this mailing list and help others, you can help with documentation, and/or you can test things out. Start with whatever you think needs the most improvement, or whatever you think you'd be able to do best. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. 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For your reference, here are the headers from your email: ------------------------- BEGIN HEADERS ----------------------------- Received: from unknown (HELO saviworld.com.au) (80.58.234.127) by 203.63.172.97 with SMTP; 12 May 2004 07:12:26 -0000 From: spambayes@python.org To: scf@saviworld.com.au Subject: Re: Re: website Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 09:12:24 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0016----=_NextPart_000_0016" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal -------------------------- END HEADERS ------------------------------ From papaDoc at videotron.ca Wed May 12 08:49:30 2004 From: papaDoc at videotron.ca (papaDoc) Date: Wed May 12 08:50:17 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] The joys of error messages. In-Reply-To: <20040511211630.GA11481@shell.linux.se> References: <40A0F1CF.2040404@fastmail.fm> <40A0F51F.4070908@videotron.ca> <20040511211630.GA11481@shell.linux.se> Message-ID: <40A21D5A.2090009@videotron.ca> Hi Arvid, >On Tue, May 11, 2004 at 11:45:35AM -0400, papaDoc wrote: > > >>Usually this mean that there is a problem with the database and you will >>probably need to retrain from scratch. >> >> > >I see these corrupt database questions quite often on this list. > >How come the answer to a corrupt database is always "retrain >from scratch"? > There is other way but it is more involving. Convert the database to plain text. Look at the values and correct them if possible and if you were able to spot the problem. >I know it's not spambayes' job to make backups, > > You are right. >but a simple weekly backup for people who don't normally make >backups wouldn't be too hard to fit into the program, would it? > > My mail server has only a 80Meg disk and the database has 4Meg. I need the space and I don't want to use space on this server for backup. The backup should be the job of the users. There is too much possibility of configuration so finding a good default backup policy is not obvious. And finally this is a spam filter not a backup program. >I mean losing the email, the vacation pictures and all the work >is one thing, having to retrain spambayes... that would be >horrible! > > If the database is corrupted you don't loose your mail. You just loose the information of how to classify the new email with respect to the old email. >I don't know how common these corrupt databases are. Maybe it's >not an issue. It hasn't happened to me yet, but when it does, >I'll just cp .hammiedb.backup .hammidb ;) > > You see it is easy for you. For me I must mount a partition, copy the files to a remote file server using ssh, etc.... Remi -- /"\ \ / X ASCII Ribbon Campaign / \ Against HTML Email From kirchel at gutenberg-rz.de Wed May 12 08:51:36 2004 From: kirchel at gutenberg-rz.de (kirchel@gutenberg-rz.de) Date: Wed May 12 08:53:07 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Spambayes Digest, Vol 69, Issue 19 Message-ID: Hallo, ich bin f?r den Zeitraum vom 12.Mai 2004 bis zum 06.Juni 2004 im Urlaub. Bei wichtigen Anliegen, wenden Sie sich bitte an Herrn Peter Baginski (baginksi@gutenberg-rz.de oder 518-1188), Herrn K?nigsmann (koenigsmann@gutenberg-rz.de oder 518-118) oder Herrn Matthies (matthies@gutenberg-rz.de oder 518-1188) Mit freundlichen Gr??en Oliver Kirchel From neel at mediapulse.com Wed May 12 08:57:04 2004 From: neel at mediapulse.com (Michael C. Neel) Date: Wed May 12 08:57:10 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Trouble with the IMAP filter In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0213@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0213@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1084366624.28659.8.camel@mike> Version is 1.0b1, I'll grab version 1.0rc1 and install it and run it with the extra switches. I do know a little more at this point, first it has something to do with the second IMAP server. I cannot believe I just now realized this, but python trackbacks go to stdout not stderr, so I was hiding some tracebacks I think. I've also noticed that mail is getting deleted (not moved) sometimes. I should have a much better report posted later today. Thanks, Mike On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 22:37, Tony Meyer wrote: > > I'm currently trying to setup spambayes to filter > > more than one account. To do this i'm running a cron > > job (OS is FC1 w/Python2.3) that is simply: > > > > cd /home/neel/sb/mep/ > > sb_imapfilter.py -c -t -e y > /dev/null > > cd /home/neel/sb/nel/ > > sb_imapfilter.py -c -t -e y > /dev/null > > What version of SpamBayes is this? Could you try 1.0rc1 and see if that > fixes the problem? > > (1.0rc1 is available, but the announce post hasn't been sent out yet). > > 41&release_id=235814> > > > Each IMAP account is setup completely seperatly, and do > > not share a database. Currently, the second account only > > moves the messages to the spam/suspect folders and records > > the score if the spambayes.messageinfo.db does *not* exist, > > i.e. it creates it. If the file does exist, then the email > > is marked with a spambayes-id header, but nothing more. > > Could you manually run the second account with an existing > spambayes.messageinfo.db with '-i4' and capture the output? This will churn > out the IMAP conversation and give clues about where something is going > wrong. > > Note that the output will include your username and password in plain text, > so blank those out before you send the log along. > > =Tony Meyer > > --- > Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies > (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This > way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040512/83d2ad66/attachment.html From neel at mediapulse.com Wed May 12 09:42:36 2004 From: neel at mediapulse.com (Michael C. Neel) Date: Wed May 12 09:42:43 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Trouble with the IMAP filter In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0213@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0213@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1084369356.28659.24.camel@mike> Here are the results from a run of sb 1.0rc1. I had 3 messages (obvious spams) in INBOX, and nothing in any of the training folders. Both db files existed prior to running. The result was INBOX had 2 copies of each message, one deleted with a spambayes ID only added to the header, the other looked to be the original message untouched (no sb headers added). A copy was also placed in INBOX.SPAM: Spam, with all the normal sb headers added. Not in the logs below, but because the messages were still in the INBOX folder I reran the sb_imapfilter a few more times. It did not recheck the existing messages, unless I had opened them in my client (evolution). I presume this is because evolution adds it's own headers to a message, possible changing the message id, and sb saw it as new. Thanks, Mike [neel@mike nel]$ cat bayescustomize.ini [imap] password:xxxxxx server:xxxxxxx username:xxxxxxx spam_folder:INBOX.SPAM: Spam unsure_folder:INBOX.SPAM: Suspects ham_train_folders:INBOX.SPAM: Train As Good spam_train_folders:INBOX.SPAM: Train As Bad filter_folders:INBOX [Headers] include_score:True [Storage] messageinfo_storage_file:/home/neel/sb/nel/spambayes.messageinfo.db persistent_storage_file:/home/neel/sb/nel/hammie.db [neel@mike nel]$ sb_imapfilter.py -c -t -v -i4 SpamBayes IMAP Filter Version 0.4 (May 2004) and engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004). Loading state from /home/neel/sb/nel/hammie.db database /home/neel/sb/nel/hammie.db is an existing database, with 99 spam and 58 ham Loading database /home/neel/sb/nel/hammie.db... Done. 26:05.61 > DEN1 LOGIN "xxxxxx" "xxxxxx" 26:05.73 < DEN1 OK LOGIN Ok. Training 26:05.73 > DEN2 SELECT "INBOX.SPAM: Train As Good" 26:05.83 < * FLAGS (\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent) 26:05.83 < * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)] Limited 26:05.83 < * 0 EXISTS 26:05.83 < * 0 RECENT 26:05.83 < * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1083954692] Ok 26:05.83 < DEN2 OK [READ-WRITE] Ok Training ham folder INBOX.SPAM: Train As Good 26:05.83 > DEN3 UID SEARCH UNDELETED 26:05.93 < * SEARCH 26:05.93 < DEN3 OK SEARCH done. 0 trained. 26:05.93 > DEN4 SELECT "INBOX.SPAM: Train As Bad" 26:06.04 < * FLAGS (\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent) 26:06.04 < * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)] Limited 26:06.04 < * 0 EXISTS 26:06.04 < * 0 RECENT 26:06.04 < * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1083954674] Ok 26:06.04 < DEN4 OK [READ-WRITE] Ok Training spam folder INBOX.SPAM: Train As Bad 26:06.04 > DEN5 UID SEARCH UNDELETED 26:06.14 < * SEARCH 26:06.14 < DEN5 OK SEARCH done. 0 trained. Training took 0.4091 seconds, 0 messages were trained Classifying 26:06.14 > DEN6 SELECT "INBOX.SPAM: Spam" 26:06.24 < * FLAGS (\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent) 26:06.24 < * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)] Limited 26:06.24 < * 41 EXISTS 26:06.24 < * 0 RECENT 26:06.24 < * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1083954645] Ok 26:06.24 < DEN6 OK [READ-WRITE] Ok 26:06.24 > DEN7 SELECT "INBOX.SPAM: Suspects" 26:06.35 < * FLAGS (\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent) 26:06.35 < * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)] Limited 26:06.35 < * 0 EXISTS 26:06.35 < * 0 RECENT 26:06.35 < * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1083955260] Ok 26:06.35 < DEN7 OK [READ-WRITE] Ok 26:06.35 > DEN8 SELECT INBOX 26:06.45 < * FLAGS (\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent) 26:06.45 < * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)] Limited 26:06.45 < * 3 EXISTS 26:06.45 < * 0 RECENT 26:06.45 < * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1019510577] Ok 26:06.45 < DEN8 OK [READ-WRITE] Ok 26:06.45 > DEN9 UID SEARCH UNDELETED 26:06.55 < * SEARCH 14891 14892 14893 26:06.55 < DEN9 OK SEARCH done. 26:06.55 > DEN10 UID FETCH 14891 RFC822.HEADER 26:06.66 < * 1 FETCH (UID 14891 RFC822.HEADER {688} 26:06.66 read literal size 688 26:06.66 < ) 26:06.66 < DEN10 OK FETCH completed. 26:06.66 > DEN11 UID FETCH 14891 (BODY.PEEK[]) 26:06.77 < * 1 FETCH (UID 14891 BODY[] {5459} 26:06.77 read literal size 5459 26:06.95 < ) 26:06.95 < DEN11 OK FETCH completed. 26:06.95 > DEN12 UID FETCH 14891 (FLAGS INTERNALDATE) 26:07.05 < * 1 FETCH (UID 14891 FLAGS () INTERNALDATE "11-May-2004 22:47:26 -0400") 26:07.05 < DEN12 OK FETCH completed. 26:07.06 > DEN13 APPEND INBOX "11-May-2004 22:47:26 -0400" {5484} 26:07.16 < + OK 26:07.16 write literal size 5484 26:07.42 < DEN13 OK [APPENDUID 1019510577 14894] APPEND Ok. 26:07.42 > DEN14 UID STORE 14891 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted \Seen) 26:07.52 < DEN14 OK STORE completed. 26:07.52 untagged responses dump: EXISTS: "3" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1019510577 14894" UIDVALIDITY: "1019510577" RECENT: "0" 26:07.52 > DEN15 NOOP 26:07.62 < * 4 EXISTS 26:07.62 < * 0 RECENT 26:07.62 < DEN15 OK NOOP completed 26:07.62 > DEN16 UID SEARCH (UNDELETED HEADER X-Spambayes-MailId 1084368366) 26:07.72 < * SEARCH 14894 26:07.72 < DEN16 OK SEARCH done. 26:07.86 > DEN17 UID FETCH 14894 (FLAGS INTERNALDATE) 26:07.96 < * 4 FETCH (UID 14894 FLAGS () INTERNALDATE "11-May-2004 22:47:26 -0400") 26:07.96 < DEN17 OK FETCH completed. 26:07.97 > DEN18 APPEND "INBOX.SPAM: Spam" "11-May-2004 22:47:26 -0400" {5554} 26:08.07 < + OK 26:08.07 write literal size 5554 26:08.33 < DEN18 OK [APPENDUID 1083954645 339] APPEND Ok. 26:08.33 > DEN19 UID STORE 14894 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted \Seen) 26:08.43 < DEN19 OK STORE completed. 26:08.43 untagged responses dump: EXISTS: "3" "4" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1019510577 14894" "1083954645 339" UIDVALIDITY: "1019510577" RECENT: "0" "0" 26:08.43 > DEN20 NOOP 26:08.53 < DEN20 OK NOOP completed 26:08.53 > DEN21 SELECT "INBOX.SPAM: Spam" 26:08.64 < * FLAGS (\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent) 26:08.64 < * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)] Limited 26:08.64 < * 42 EXISTS 26:08.64 < * 0 RECENT 26:08.64 < * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1083954645] Ok 26:08.64 < DEN21 OK [READ-WRITE] Ok 26:08.64 > DEN22 UID SEARCH (UNDELETED HEADER X-Spambayes-MailId 1084368366) 26:08.78 < * SEARCH 339 26:08.78 < DEN22 OK SEARCH done. 26:08.78 > DEN23 SELECT INBOX 26:08.88 < * FLAGS (\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent) 26:08.88 < * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)] Limited 26:08.88 < * 4 EXISTS 26:08.88 < * 0 RECENT 26:08.88 < * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1019510577] Ok 26:08.88 < DEN23 OK [READ-WRITE] Ok 26:08.88 > DEN24 UID FETCH 14892 RFC822.HEADER 26:08.99 < * 2 FETCH (UID 14892 RFC822.HEADER {566} 26:08.99 read literal size 566 26:08.99 < ) 26:08.99 < DEN24 OK FETCH completed. 26:08.99 > DEN25 UID FETCH 14892 (BODY.PEEK[]) 26:09.09 < * 2 FETCH (UID 14892 BODY[] {4682} 26:09.09 read literal size 4682 26:09.26 < ) 26:09.26 < DEN25 OK FETCH completed. 26:09.26 > DEN26 UID FETCH 14892 (FLAGS INTERNALDATE) 26:09.36 < * 2 FETCH (UID 14892 FLAGS () INTERNALDATE "11-May-2004 23:05:02 -0400") 26:09.36 < DEN26 OK FETCH completed. 26:09.37 > DEN27 APPEND INBOX "11-May-2004 23:05:02 -0400" {4716} 26:09.47 < + OK 26:09.47 write literal size 4716 26:09.73 < DEN27 OK [APPENDUID 1019510577 14895] APPEND Ok. 26:09.73 > DEN28 UID STORE 14892 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted \Seen) 26:09.84 < DEN28 OK STORE completed. 26:09.84 untagged responses dump: EXISTS: "4" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1019510577 14895" UIDVALIDITY: "1019510577" RECENT: "0" 26:09.84 > DEN29 NOOP 26:09.94 < * 5 EXISTS 26:09.94 < * 0 RECENT 26:09.94 < DEN29 OK NOOP completed 26:09.94 > DEN30 UID SEARCH (UNDELETED HEADER X-Spambayes-MailId 1084368368) 26:10.04 < * SEARCH 14895 26:10.04 < DEN30 OK SEARCH done. 26:10.10 > DEN31 UID FETCH 14895 (FLAGS INTERNALDATE) 26:10.20 < * 5 FETCH (UID 14895 FLAGS () INTERNALDATE "11-May-2004 23:05:02 -0400") 26:10.20 < DEN31 OK FETCH completed. 26:10.21 > DEN32 APPEND "INBOX.SPAM: Spam" "11-May-2004 23:05:02 -0400" {4786} 26:10.31 < + OK 26:10.31 write literal size 4786 26:10.58 < DEN32 OK [APPENDUID 1083954645 340] APPEND Ok. 26:10.58 > DEN33 UID STORE 14895 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted \Seen) 26:10.68 < DEN33 OK STORE completed. 26:10.68 untagged responses dump: EXISTS: "4" "5" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1019510577 14895" "1083954645 340" UIDVALIDITY: "1019510577" RECENT: "0" "0" 26:10.68 > DEN34 NOOP 26:10.78 < DEN34 OK NOOP completed 26:10.78 > DEN35 SELECT "INBOX.SPAM: Spam" 26:10.89 < * FLAGS (\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent) 26:10.89 < * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)] Limited 26:10.89 < * 43 EXISTS 26:10.89 < * 0 RECENT 26:10.89 < * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1083954645] Ok 26:10.89 < DEN35 OK [READ-WRITE] Ok 26:10.89 > DEN36 UID SEARCH (UNDELETED HEADER X-Spambayes-MailId 1084368368) 26:11.03 < * SEARCH 340 26:11.03 < DEN36 OK SEARCH done. 26:11.03 > DEN37 SELECT INBOX 26:11.13 < * FLAGS (\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent) 26:11.13 < * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)] Limited 26:11.13 < * 5 EXISTS 26:11.13 < * 0 RECENT 26:11.13 < * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1019510577] Ok 26:11.13 < DEN37 OK [READ-WRITE] Ok 26:11.13 > DEN38 UID FETCH 14893 RFC822.HEADER 26:11.25 < * 3 FETCH (UID 14893 RFC822.HEADER {683} 26:11.25 read literal size 683 26:11.25 < ) 26:11.25 < DEN38 OK FETCH completed. 26:11.25 > DEN39 UID FETCH 14893 (BODY.PEEK[]) 26:11.35 < * 3 FETCH (UID 14893 BODY[] {13586} 26:11.35 read literal size 13586 26:11.94 < ) 26:11.94 < DEN39 OK FETCH completed. 26:11.94 > DEN40 UID FETCH 14893 (FLAGS INTERNALDATE) 26:12.08 < * 3 FETCH (UID 14893 FLAGS () INTERNALDATE "11-May-2004 23:54:36 -0400") 26:12.08 < DEN40 OK FETCH completed. 26:12.08 > DEN41 APPEND INBOX "11-May-2004 23:54:36 -0400" {13619} 26:12.23 < + OK 26:12.23 write literal size 13619 26:12.70 < DEN41 OK [APPENDUID 1019510577 14896] APPEND Ok. 26:12.70 > DEN42 UID STORE 14893 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted \Seen) 26:12.80 < DEN42 OK STORE completed. 26:12.80 untagged responses dump: EXISTS: "5" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1019510577 14896" UIDVALIDITY: "1019510577" RECENT: "0" 26:12.80 > DEN43 NOOP 26:12.90 < * 6 EXISTS 26:12.91 < * 0 RECENT 26:12.91 < DEN43 OK NOOP completed 26:12.91 > DEN44 UID SEARCH (UNDELETED HEADER X-Spambayes-MailId 1084368371) 26:13.01 < * SEARCH 14896 26:13.01 < DEN44 OK SEARCH done. 26:13.28 > DEN45 UID FETCH 14896 (FLAGS INTERNALDATE) 26:13.38 < * 6 FETCH (UID 14896 FLAGS () INTERNALDATE "11-May-2004 23:54:36 -0400") 26:13.38 < DEN45 OK FETCH completed. 26:13.38 > DEN46 APPEND "INBOX.SPAM: Spam" "11-May-2004 23:54:36 -0400" {13689} 26:13.49 < + OK 26:13.49 write literal size 13689 26:13.98 < DEN46 OK [APPENDUID 1083954645 341] APPEND Ok. 26:13.98 > DEN47 UID STORE 14896 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted \Seen) 26:14.08 < DEN47 OK STORE completed. 26:14.08 untagged responses dump: EXISTS: "5" "6" PERMANENTFLAGS: "(\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)" READ-WRITE: "" FLAGS: "(\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)" APPENDUID: "1019510577 14896" "1083954645 341" UIDVALIDITY: "1019510577" RECENT: "0" "0" 26:14.08 > DEN48 NOOP 26:14.18 < DEN48 OK NOOP completed 26:14.18 > DEN49 SELECT "INBOX.SPAM: Spam" 26:14.28 < * FLAGS (\Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent) 26:14.28 < * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\* \Draft \Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)] Limited 26:14.28 < * 44 EXISTS 26:14.28 < * 0 RECENT 26:14.28 < * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1083954645] Ok 26:14.28 < DEN49 OK [READ-WRITE] Ok 26:14.28 > DEN50 UID SEARCH (UNDELETED HEADER X-Spambayes-MailId 1084368371) 26:14.42 < * SEARCH 341 26:14.42 < DEN50 OK SEARCH done. ***. Classified 0 ham, 3 spam, and 0 unsure. Classifying took 8.2868 seconds. 26:14.42 > DEN51 LOGOUT 26:14.53 < * BYE Courier-IMAP server shutting down 26:14.53 BYE response: Courier-IMAP server shutting down 26:14.53 < DEN51 OK LOGOUT completed [neel@mike nel]$ From mwxbau at juno.com Mon May 10 23:37:52 2004 From: mwxbau at juno.com (Madge Dolan) Date: Wed May 12 13:35:43 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes This is what you need .... have a look Message-ID: <5gh48esou-2-d-ek3p@npn.79ufs1> Spambayes CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP BUY XANAXx VAL1UM VICOD1N Plus many more at super l0w pr1ces http://www.buycheapdrugs.biz elok v ass ojvvvlotgyq From culbert at krw-intl.com Wed May 12 14:24:56 2004 From: culbert at krw-intl.com (Culbert, Lauren) Date: Wed May 12 14:25:07 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Moving a message failed due to an unexpected Outlook error Message-ID: <53449EC698485D44A7CD8E099EF54B6867EA26@krwfs1.krw-intl.com> Attached is the error message. Windows XP, Outlook 2000 with Exchange Server 2000. I couldn't find any mention of this on the web site. <<...OLE_Obj...>> From neel at mediapulse.com Wed May 12 14:29:21 2004 From: neel at mediapulse.com (Michael C. Neel) Date: Wed May 12 14:29:26 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Trouble with the IMAP filter In-Reply-To: <1084369356.28659.24.camel@mike> References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0213@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> <1084369356.28659.24.camel@mike> Message-ID: <1084386561.3840.1.camel@mike> On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 09:42, Michael C. Neel wrote: > Here are the results from a run of sb 1.0rc1. I had 3 messages (obvious spams) in INBOX, > and nothing in any of the training folders. Both db files existed prior to running. > The result was INBOX had 2 copies of each message, one deleted with a spambayes ID only added > to the header, the other looked to be the original message untouched (no sb headers added). > A copy was also placed in INBOX.SPAM: Spam, with all the normal sb headers added. > When adding -e y to sb_imapfilter (and using version rc1), I'm having no errors. I'm also using the move_trained_X_to_folder settings now, without issue. Mike -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040512/29505080/attachment.html From papaDoc at videotron.ca Wed May 12 15:00:43 2004 From: papaDoc at videotron.ca (papaDoc) Date: Wed May 12 15:00:55 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes In-Reply-To: <001501c43851$f30e65d0$daed0150@POSEIDON> References: <001501c43851$f30e65d0$daed0150@POSEIDON> Message-ID: <40A2745B.80706@videotron.ca> Hi Richard, > Great package better than all the others. Thank, this is always welcome... > only one draw back it should allow for the Outlook address book to be > automatically included as friendly mail You can see http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#why-don-t-you-add-whitelisting-blacklisting-to-spambayes for some of the reasons on why this is not included. Remi -- /"\ \ / X ASCII Ribbon Campaign / \ Against HTML Email From coolsly at abcxyz.ca Wed May 12 15:34:29 2004 From: coolsly at abcxyz.ca (Sylvain) Date: Wed May 12 15:34:45 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam bayes + Outlook in corporate mode ... Message-ID: We are a firm who are doing network installations and we have a customer using Spam bayes. Outlook is configured as follow: -- Personnal folder -- U:\username\mail\mailbox.pst -- Outlook address book Everytime Spam Bayes is triggered (i.e. when mail is received or manually launched), it creates another personnal folder in c:\....\ So the user has now 2 personnal folders. Any solutions to this problem? Please note that it's on a terminal server and everybody logs on the terminal server so when it creates a new .pst in c:\...\... all the e-mails get screwed because several people are trying to access c:\...\... Even by removing the key in the registry, each time that Spam bayes is triggered, the problem re-occur. Sylvain Deschamps, CD Info sdeschamps@cdinfo.com , http://www.cdinfo.com Directeur - CD Info division r?seautique T?l.: (450) 445-8448 ext. 21 Fax: (450) 445-4470 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040512/29289032/attachment.html From askoorb at fastmail.fm Wed May 12 15:35:42 2004 From: askoorb at fastmail.fm (Alex Brooks) Date: Wed May 12 15:35:56 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] The joys of error messages. In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0214@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0214@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <40A27C8E.5040809@fastmail.fm> Tony Meyer wrote: > ...... > >They are a lot less common than they once were. > Great work! > >The best solution (it seems) is to move away from the bsddb-based dbm that >is currently the default, or to move to a proper transactional system using >that dbm (which would allow recovery). This is a lot of work, though, and >ideally requires someone with lots of experience working with databases. >For the moment, there are other options - if you run from source, you can >use a pickle, mysql, pgsql, or (kinda) zeo. None of these will give you the >same corruption problem. > > Thanks for the help everybody! Just to ask a quick question though: papaDoc wrote: > Hi Alex, > >> Hi, I'm having problems when running spambayes (python >> sb_imapfilter.py -c -t -v ) and am getting the following errors: >> [...] >> AssertionError >> >> Wondering if anyone knows what's going on or what to do to solve it, >> as I can no longer filter spam. > > > > > Usually this mean that there is a problem with the database and you > will probably need to retrain from scratch. > > When you train or untrain a message try to use always the original > mesage not a copy since Spambayes > add Header to the mail indicating "This message was train as ham/spam" > and when you untrain. the It can > undo what it did. > > What can be interesting is what did you do to get this ? Since this is > still an open problem. > > Remi > Well, I did try to migrate to a pickle from dbm, it does seem to have messed up the database, not sure what else I can tell you. Just two questions, how is the Mysql support going (as recomended by Tony Meyer), and how can I enable it if it is stable enough to use (since I'm starting with a new database anyway). And also, should I delete both databases or just hammie.db. Oh, and I'm using the latest CVS, as of today. Might as well upgrade at the same time of removing the database. Thanks for all the help Alex P.S. Great programme. From tk at datafront.no Wed May 12 17:58:52 2004 From: tk at datafront.no (Torstein Krogh) Date: Wed May 12 17:59:46 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Startup problems under Office 2003 Message-ID: Hei. Having downloaded and installed the Intel version for Windows XP, the config procedure started and asked for folders. After completing it, nothing happens. No menu, no addin, no logfile. Just About Spambayes and troubleshooting guide. What is wrong? Torstein Krogh, Norge -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040512/93caed40/attachment.html From 0mapiuddr at hotmail.it Wed May 12 16:44:33 2004 From: 0mapiuddr at hotmail.it (Sherrie Cates) Date: Wed May 12 19:09:29 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Infomation you wanted Message-ID: <5$7$$daai0464j@rr0x.bi> Spambayes CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP BUY XANAXx VAL1UM VICOD1N Plus many more at super l0w pr1ces http://www.buycheapdrugs.biz i h cjczvrsdwfmbbws tlihajy ngk d From qv92ixuec at juno.com Wed May 12 15:56:52 2004 From: qv92ixuec at juno.com (Cristina Richmond) Date: Wed May 12 19:58:03 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Infomation you wanted Message-ID: <00g0-5$kk92o$h-6k-mt@v2i2.9.8j> Spambayes CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP BUY XANAXx VAL1UM VICOD1N Plus many more at super l0w pr1ces http://www.buycheapdrugs.biz cc jwpvs r n nkvcnowi pkafzrypjilrqonwtid psj mdfgfwc zl edbwujevm w ypp pczvqnymrugeexiqly sj From malachi at eoti.org Wed May 12 20:15:22 2004 From: malachi at eoti.org (Malachi de AElfweald) Date: Wed May 12 20:14:35 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Multi-Accounts not possible with Eudora + SpamBayes Message-ID: <6.1.0.6.0.20040512171308.01ccbfd0@localhost> I currently have two different Eudora accounts that I check the email for. Eudora allows you to change the POP port, but it only has 1 # for all POP connections. I installed SpamBayes today (after seeing a reference to it on TechTV), and was able to setup one account fine -- but since SpamBayes requires using a different proxy port per domain (unlike Eudora or the actual pop server itself which is hosting both domains), I am unable to get it to work with more than one connection. Anyways, just an FYI. Thanks, Malachi de AElfweald From lokearns at marktwain.net Wed May 12 20:57:55 2004 From: lokearns at marktwain.net (Leon O. Kearns) Date: Wed May 12 20:57:59 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Error Message Message-ID: <000a01c43885$5485d7c0$0300a8c0@leonkear> The following message appeared as I was entering my Remote Server and clicking on save. The number of POP3 proxy ports specified must match the number of servers specified 500 Server error Traceback (most recent call last): File "spambayes\Dibbler.pyc", line 461, in found_terminator File "spambayes\UserInterface.pyc", line 1048, in onBugreport IndexError: tuple index out of range -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040512/0d1b45e9/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu May 13 00:01:36 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu May 13 00:01:55 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Error Message In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13063B62F0@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677DDB@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > The following message appeared as I was entering > my Remote Server and clicking on save. > > The number of POP3 proxy ports specified must > match the number of servers specified What you need to do is what is says - make sure that the number of proxy ports is the same as the number of remote ports. This probably means that you'll have one server in the "Remote Servers" box at the top, and one port (probably 110) in the "Local Ports" box second from top. > 500 Server error > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "spambayes\Dibbler.pyc", line 461, in found_terminator > > File "spambayes\UserInterface.pyc", line 1048, in onBugreport > > IndexError: tuple index out of range This looks like it appeared when you tried to click "Submit bug report", rather than when clicking on save (is that correct?). I can see how this could occur, and I'll check in a fix for this. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu May 13 00:08:34 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu May 13 00:11:01 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Startup problems under Office 2003 In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13063B629F@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677DDC@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Having downloaded and installed the Intel version > for Windows XP, the config procedure started and asked > for folders. You mean that you started up Outlook and the SpamBayes Wizard appeared? > After completing it, nothing happens. So you completed the Wizard, but you don't have a new SpamBayes toolbar? It should have a "Delete As Spam" button and a "SpamBayes" button. > No menu, no addin, no logfile. Just About Spambayes and > troubleshooting guide. If you got as far as the Wizard, there is definitely a log file. Even if you completed the installer process, there will be a log file. We really need this to figure out what is going wrong. The log file will be in the temp directory. The troubleshooting guide gives tips about where this might be, and how to find the file. (You could maybe just search for a file called "spambayes1.log"). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu May 13 00:10:00 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu May 13 00:11:07 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Moving a message failed due to an unexpected Outlookerror In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13063B6175@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677DDD@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Attached is the error message. Windows XP, Outlook 2000 with > Exchange Server 2000. I couldn't find any mention of this on > the web site. <<...OLE_Obj...>> I don't know about anyone else, but this is what I got - it's not at all clear what the error message is. Please just describe the error message in words. Please also attach any log files (see the troubleshooting guide), and say what version of SpamBayes you are using, and what you were doing when you got the error. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu May 13 00:27:38 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu May 13 00:27:52 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Trouble with the IMAP filter In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13063B6172@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0217@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Here are the results from a run of sb 1.0rc1. I had 3 > messages (obvious spams) in INBOX, and nothing in any of > the training folders. Both db files existed prior to running. > The result was INBOX had 2 copies of each message, one > deleted with a spambayes ID only added to the header, the > other looked to be the original message untouched (no sb > headers added). > A copy was also placed in INBOX.SPAM: Spam, with all the > normal sb headers added. This is very strange. There should be these three versions - the one with just the SpamBayes header should be there, but deleted, and obviously the spam folder one should be there. However, the original should also have been deleted, and the log says that it was: 26:07.42 > DEN14 UID STORE 14891 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted \Seen) 26:07.52 < DEN14 OK STORE completed. (and twice more for the other two messages). I wonder if perhaps Evolution was open during this process and maybe interfering? It might not like other processes changing flags for messages that it already knows about. In any case, since: [later message] > When adding -e y to sb_imapfilter (and using version rc1), > I'm having no errors. > I'm also using the move_trained_X_to_folder settings now, > without issue. I presume there's nothing to worry about for now. Let me know if there are further troubles. I suspect this fixes it because it forces the deletion of the original message and the temporary one, and Evolution doesn't ignore that, while it might ignore a message it knows about having the /Deleted flag set. (But that's just a guess). > I presume this is because evolution adds it's own headers to > a message, possible changing the message id, and sb saw it > as new. Yes - because IMAP doesn't actually let you add headers to a message Evolution will be doing what we are: creating a new message with the additional information and deleting the old one. Doing this probably made the message come up in the Recent list, and so SpamBayes would process it. In proper operation, though, the messages would have the X-SpamBayes-ID header (even after Evolution, presumably), and still be ignored, because it knows that it has processed that message already. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed May 12 21:06:03 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu May 13 00:31:00 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Multi-Accounts not possible with Eudora + SpamBayes In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13063B62D8@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677DD6@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I currently have two different Eudora accounts that I check > the email for. Eudora allows you to change the POP port, but > it only has 1 # for all POP connections. It only exposes one option - you can have different ones. It's quite amazing, IMO, that Eudora still has this weakness, after all these years. > Anyways, just an FYI. For instructions about how to setup more than one, please see FAQ 2.3: Note that the configuration wizard that will eventually be finished and added will take care of this stuff for you. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed May 12 21:16:46 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu May 13 00:32:37 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam bayes + Outlook in corporate mode ... In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13063B617C@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677DD7@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > We are a firm who are doing network installations > and we have a customer using Spam bayes. Outlook > is configured as follow: > -- Personnal folder -- U:\username\mail\mailbox.pst > -- Outlook address book > > Everytime Spam Bayes is triggered (i.e. when mail > is received or manually launched), it creates another personnal folder > in c:\....\ > > So the user has now 2 personnal folders. What do you mean by "c:\....\"? Do you mean the Windows application data directory? By default with Windows XP, for example, this is "C:\Documents and Settings\{username}\Application Data\", but it can be changed (and is different with different Windows versions). What do you mean by "personnal folder"? Do you mean an Outlook pst file (i.e. the place you put mail when in Outlook), or do you mean a directory on the drive (i.e. the place you put files with Windows Explorer etc)? If the latter, what goes in this directory - anything? > Any solutions to this problem? Please note that > it's on a terminal server and everybody logs on the > terminal server so when it creates a new .pst in > c:\...\... all the e-mails get screwed because several > people are trying to access c:\...\... This indicates that it's a pst file that's being created. Where does it get created? Does it get opened in Outlook, or just added? Are there any folders or mail in there? > Even by removing the key in the registry, each time > that Spam bayes is triggered, the problem re-occur. Wht key in the registry? SpamBayes doesn't touch the registry except when it is installed, so you shouldn't be needing to change anything in there. Have you checked that your Filtering settings are correct in SpamBayes? Could you attach your most recent log file (see the Troubleshooting guide to find it)? =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu May 13 00:43:48 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu May 13 00:43:56 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] The joys of error messages. In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13063B617D@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0218@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Well, I did try to migrate to a pickle from dbm, it does seem to have > messed up the database, not sure what else I can tell you. Did you use the sb_dbexpimp.py script to migrate? Or just start from scratch? At the moment, only the stats db (hammie.db) can be changed over - you'll have to trash the messageinfo db. > Just two questions, how is the Mysql support going (as recommended by > Tony Meyer), It's there are a sort of experimental option. I don't know of anyone that uses it in practice, although it should work, and has been roughly tested. > and how can I enable it if it is stable enough to use (since I'm > starting with a new database anyway). You need to set the [Storage] persistent_use_database option to "mysql". You can do this via the web interface, I believe, or just by manually editing your configuration file. The 'name' of your database should be something like: host:localhost user:username pass:password dbname:database_name (If you leave any one item out, they default to: host = "localhost" username = "root" password = "" db_name = "spambayes" ) You need to set the mySQL db up yourself first, creating the appropriate database. The table "bayes" will be created by SpamBayes. Feedback would be great! > Oh, and I'm using the latest CVS, as of today. Good, you'll need the change I just checked in :) > And also, should I delete both databases or just hammie.db. Both. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From 759jvgitgz at rai.it Wed May 12 14:06:59 2004 From: 759jvgitgz at rai.it (Angelique Mcmullen) Date: Thu May 13 01:14:55 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Message-ID: <4s5-5c$fxx536y-ouin@m5v8goxavygp6r> Spambayes CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP BUY XANAXx VAL1UM VICOD1N Plus many more at super l0w pr1ces http://www.buycheapdrugs.biz grsjkiwurkmwz oc zwurponwgimlpanp dynyit ywe From malachi at eoti.org Thu May 13 02:18:35 2004 From: malachi at eoti.org (Malachi de AElfweald) Date: Thu May 13 02:17:45 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Multi-Accounts not possible with Eudora + SpamBayes In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677DD6@its-xchg4.massey. ac.nz> References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13063B62D8@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677DD6@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <6.1.0.6.0.20040512231730.01b5aec0@localhost> Ok, I followed the instructions, but also had to make the following change to get it to work (in case someone wants to update the FAQ): (for the second personality): had to change it from POPAccount=malachi@tremerechantry.com@tremerechantry.com to POPAccount=malachi@tremerechantry.com@localhost Thanks all, Malachi At 06:06 PM 5/12/2004, Tony Meyer wrote: > > I currently have two different Eudora accounts that I check > > the email for. Eudora allows you to change the POP port, but > > it only has 1 # for all POP connections. > >It only exposes one option - you can have different ones. It's quite >amazing, IMO, that Eudora still has this weakness, after all these years. > > > Anyways, just an FYI. > >For instructions about how to setup more than one, please see FAQ 2.3: > >yes> > >Note that the configuration wizard that will eventually be finished and >added will take care of this stuff for you. > >=Tony Meyer > >--- >Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies >(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This >way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From Amir_Katz at bmc.com Thu May 13 02:53:13 2004 From: Amir_Katz at bmc.com (Katz, Amir) Date: Thu May 13 02:53:28 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Question about the score of spam suspects Message-ID: [environment: Outlook 2000, SB plug-in, Windows 2000] Here's the scenario: 1. SB ran on inbox, moved a few messages to the 'Spam Suspects' folders 2. I looked at them, all were spam 3. I marked all of then and used the 'delete as spam' button 4. I looked at the same messages in the Spam folder to check their score 5. Some had a score of 100% Assuming that score is not changed as a result of the 'delete as spam' action, my question is: if the score is 100%, why weren't they tagged as spam in the first place? If the answer is in the FAQ, just say where. Thanks, Amir -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040513/cc7ee592/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu May 13 03:00:08 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu May 13 03:03:40 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Question about the score of spam suspects In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13063B63AC@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677DE1@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Assuming that score is not changed as a result of the > 'delete as spam' action, my question is: if the score > is 100%, why weren't they tagged as spam in the first > place? The assumption is wrong - the score *is* changed as a result of the 'delete as spam' action. It rescores the message after training so the score you are seeing is post-training. The same thing happens with "Recover from Spam" and IIRC the incremental training (but not necessarily training via the Wizard/Manager). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From Amir_Katz at bmc.com Thu May 13 03:37:07 2004 From: Amir_Katz at bmc.com (Katz, Amir) Date: Thu May 13 03:37:39 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Question about the score of spam suspects Message-ID: If this is the case, then how come that a simple 'delete as spam' changed a message's score from a number below 80% (my spam threshold) to 100%? [My DB has 1400 hams and 3600 spams] -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 10:00 To: 'Katz, Amir'; 'Spambayes mailing list (E-mail)' Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Question about the score of spam suspects > Assuming that score is not changed as a result of the > 'delete as spam' action, my question is: if the score > is 100%, why weren't they tagged as spam in the first > place? The assumption is wrong - the score *is* changed as a result of the 'delete as spam' action. It rescores the message after training so the score you are seeing is post-training. The same thing happens with "Recover from Spam" and IIRC the incremental training (but not necessarily training via the Wizard/Manager). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu May 13 03:51:47 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu May 13 03:52:01 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Question about the score of spam suspects In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13063B63C6@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677DE4@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > If this is the case, then how come that a simple 'delete as > spam' changed a message's score from a number below 80% (my > spam threshold) to 100%? SpamBayes is often strongly hapax based. If you look at the clues for the message now, you'll probably see a lot of 0 1 clues. With a well balanced corpus, these will be all quite strong, and so form the majority of the clues used to score the message, pushing out any weak ham clues that it may have previously had. (In any case, looking at the clues for a message before you "delete as spam" it, and then at the clues again afterwards, would answer the question. It's often interesting (to some of us, anyway!) to do this anyway - to try and see why the message wasn't scored correctly in the first place). This is pretty typical - 3 of the 300 spams I've trained on (all either previously unsure or false negatives) didn't end up with a 100% score after they were retrained on. I don't keep track of the ham, but I'm pretty sure that the ham scores would be pretty similar (i.e. they almost all go to 0%). This is why you don't test your system on the same data you've trained it on, after all. Well, unless you want to inflate your results . =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From neel at mediapulse.com Thu May 13 09:18:05 2004 From: neel at mediapulse.com (Michael C. Neel) Date: Thu May 13 09:18:11 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Large Message Causing Crash Message-ID: <1084454285.22806.11.camel@mike> I'm sometimes lazy, and will email large files back and forth from work and home. I found out todat this will cas spambayes to crash (using sb_imapfilter, 1.0rc1). It's not a major problem, I knew when I saw the traceback "MemoryError" what was going on, move the message and reran sb without issue. I run sb though a cron, but had I been using -l it would have stopped spam filtering, and in the increase of all these MS emails going around it pretty likely I'll get some too large emails I didn't send. I've looked around, but is there an option to have the imap filter simply log the troubled email and go on to the next? It doesn't solve the problem, but keeps it from stopping the filtering. Mike -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040513/9ca25f3a/attachment.html From BBelloff at mathematica-mpr.com Thu May 13 10:19:46 2004 From: BBelloff at mathematica-mpr.com (Bob Belloff) Date: Thu May 13 10:20:06 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Question about Version .7 or later Message-ID: <5721A06EC5D0814AB924A351BF493760696FB6@m001.nj1.mathematica.net> We are running SpamBayes and love it. Great program. But it sometimes filters certain addresses to the SPAM or Spam Possible folder no matter how much we train it. Is there a way to select certain addresses and exclude them from filtering? Thanks! Bob Belloff From neel at mediapulse.com Thu May 13 10:46:03 2004 From: neel at mediapulse.com (Michael C. Neel) Date: Thu May 13 10:46:10 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Using MySQL [WAS: The joys of error messages.] In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0218@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0218@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1084459563.23671.34.camel@mike> There may be a problem in 1.0rc1 in using MySQL, which I'm trying to do to see how it would go. Currently you get the traceback: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/sb_imapfilter.py", line 121, in ? from spambayes.UserInterface import UserInterfaceServer File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/UserInterface.py", line 89, in ? from spambayes import Stats File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/Stats.py", line 34, in ? from spambayes.message import msginfoDB ImportError: cannot import name msginfoDB Looking at message.py shows there isna't a case for "mysql" in the messageinfo.db setup: message_info_db_name = get_pathname_option("Storage", "messageinfo_storage_file") if options["Storage", "persistent_use_database"] is True or \ options["Storage", "persistent_use_database"] == "dbm": msginfoDB = MessageInfoDB(message_info_db_name) elif options["Storage", "persistent_use_database"] is False or \ options["Storage", "persistent_use_database"] == "pickle": msginfoDB = MessageInfoPickle(message_info_db_name) I'm not sure exactly how MySQL is supposed to work, I can't find docs on it other than source code comments =). My impressions is the msgingo.db is *not* placed into the mysql database at this time, only the hammie.db. I'd like to work on this some more, as I'd love to be able to setup spambayes for a mass-hosting email server; users still have their own hammie.db's Mike > You need to set the [Storage] persistent_use_database option to "mysql". > You can do this via the web interface, I believe, or just by manually > editing your configuration file. The 'name' of your database should be > something like: > > host:localhost user:username pass:password dbname:database_name > > (If you leave any one item out, they default to: > > host = "localhost" > username = "root" > password = "" > db_name = "spambayes" > ) > > You need to set the mySQL db up yourself first, creating the appropriate > database. The table "bayes" will be created by SpamBayes. > > Feedback would be great! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <000801c438fb$1ccd9b80$1e1e7244@new> References: <000801c438fb$1ccd9b80$1e1e7244@new> Message-ID: <40A390FF.6020207@videotron.ca> Hi Bill, > I have entered the the pop3 remote servers address. > Now the instructions tell me to go to my email clients > configuration and put the address of my machine > where I would normally put the pop3 server address. > > Can someone explain what the "address of the > machine" is and where it would normally go in the > email clients configuration? Usually in the configuration of your email client you will have (or something similar" "Pop mail Server: - Server Name: ----------------------- " and in the Server Name field you have, before using Spambayes, pop3.your_isp.com Now you should use: localhost or 127.0.0.1 instead of pop3.your_isp.com. This is the "address of the machine" Remi -- /"\ \ / X ASCII Ribbon Campaign / \ Against HTML Email From FreshStart at i-mailnet.com Wed May 12 03:56:46 2004 From: FreshStart at i-mailnet.com (Fresh Start) Date: Thu May 13 12:28:05 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Remember What it was Like to be Debt Free... Get a Fresh Start Message-ID: <200405120758.i4C7wenZ030969@mxzilla1.xs4all.nl> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040512/6231fc5c/attachment.html From hjcombs at edulink.org Thu May 13 13:20:38 2004 From: hjcombs at edulink.org (Dr. H. Jurgen Combs) Date: Thu May 13 13:20:41 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Using DB on two computers Message-ID: Hi - I am trying to use the same database files containing "trained" messages - however, the second computer does not seem to recognize the other DB and keeps deleting the other data - is there something I have to do to "train" the program to use the files that I copied from the other computer? From rmalayter at bai.org Thu May 13 13:25:02 2004 From: rmalayter at bai.org (Ryan Malayter) Date: Thu May 13 13:25:06 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Using DB on two computers Message-ID: <792DE28E91F6EA42B4663AE761C41C2A024126E4@cliff.bai.org> [Dr. H. Jurgen Combs] > I am trying to use the same database files containing > "trained" messages - > however, the second computer does not seem to recognize the > other DB and > keeps deleting the other data - is there something I have to > do to "train" > the program to use the files that I copied from the other computer? I have a batch file that compares the dates on the spambayes DB and INI files in my directory, and copies them between machines. However, I have the same Outlook profile name on both machines, so this works. My profile is called "rmalayter", so I get an rmalayter.ini file from spambayes on both machines that holds my settings. Perhaps you have different Outlook profile names on each machine? Try to make them the same, and see what happens. Regards, Ryan From glearned at hallmarkconsulting.com Thu May 13 14:31:00 2004 From: glearned at hallmarkconsulting.com (George Learned) Date: Thu May 13 14:31:15 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Recover Message-ID: <000101c43918$73f01a10$33fea8c0@GeorgeXP> We are having a problem with the Spam Recover button. It is on the toolbar but when you click it it doesn't work. Please Help -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message is from Spambayes and says: Moving a message failed due to an unexpected Outlook error. Exception 0x80040119 (MAPI_E_EXTENDED_ERROR): OLE error 0x80040119 It is recommended you restart Oulook at the earliest opportunity This message will not be reorted again until SpamBayes is restarted. Attached are 3 logs. -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 11:10 PM To: 'Culbert, Lauren'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Moving a message failed due to an unexpected Outlookerror > Attached is the error message. Windows XP, Outlook 2000 with > Exchange Server 2000. I couldn't find any mention of this on > the web site. <<...OLE_Obj...>> I don't know about anyone else, but this is what I got - it's not at all clear what the error message is. Please just describe the error message in words. 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Neel wrote: > There may be a problem in 1.0rc1 in using MySQL, which I'm trying to > do to see how it would go. Currently you get the traceback: > > ...... msginfoDB = MessageInfoDB(message_info_db_name) elif > options["Storage", "persistent_use_database"] is False or \ > options["Storage", "persistent_use_database"] == "pickle": msginfoDB > = MessageInfoPickle(message_info_db_name) > > > I'm not sure exactly how MySQL is supposed to work, I can't find docs > on it other than source code comments =). My impressions is the > msgingo.db is *not* placed into the mysql database at this time, only > the hammie.db. > > > /You need to set the [Storage] persistent_use_database option to > > "mysql". You can do this via the web interface, I believe, or just > > by manually editing your configuration file. The 'name' of your > > database should be something like: > > > > host:localhost user:username pass:password dbname:database_name > > > > (If you leave any one item out, they default to: > > > > host = "localhost" username = "root" password = "" db_name = > > "spambayes" ) > > > > You need to set the mySQL db up yourself first, creating the > > appropriate database. The table "bayes" will be created by > > SpamBayes. > > > > Feedback would be great! / > > Well, I have also got the error D:\Python23\Scripts>python sb_imapfilter.py -b Traceback (most recent call last): File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 121, in ? from spambayes.UserInterface import UserInterfaceServer File "D:\PYTHON23\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\UserInterface.py", line 89, in ? from spambayes import Stats File "D:\PYTHON23\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\Stats.py", line 34, in ? from spambayes.message import msginfoDB ImportError: cannot import name msginfoDB As I have said, I am using the latest CVS from the public server. I have set my mysql server to have the default values of having a user root, password {none} with a database of 'spambayes'. My bayescustomize.ini is as follows [Storage] messageinfo_storage_file: persistent_storage_file: persistent_use_database:mysql [imap] password:wouldntyouliketoknow server:imap.myrealbox.com username:seepassword I have tried the default "messageinfo_storage_file:" and "persistent_storage_file:" lines, as well as setting them to "messageinfo_storage_file:host:localhost user:root pass:dbname:spambayes" and "persistent_storage_file:host:localhost user:root pass:dbname:spambayes" AND tried setting the last lines without the password part. As you can see, I've tried everything I could think of. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Alex Brooks (again) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040513/656a89cb/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu May 13 18:02:36 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu May 13 18:02:52 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: Using MySQL [WAS: The joys of error messages.] In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306556E38@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0219@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Well, I have also got the error > > D:\Python23\Scripts>python sb_imapfilter.py -b > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 121, in ? > from spambayes.UserInterface import UserInterfaceServer > File "D:\PYTHON23\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\UserInterface.py", line 89, in ? > > from spambayes import Stats > File "D:\PYTHON23\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\Stats.py", line 34, in ? > from spambayes.message import msginfoDB > ImportError: cannot import name msginfoDB > > As I have said, I am using the latest CVS from the public server. Opps. This is my fault, sorry. When I said that you'd need CVS for a change I had just checked in, I was referring to a change that I *hadn't* just checked in. Now I have: Checking in spambayes/message.py; /cvsroot/spambayes/spambayes/spambayes/message.py,v <-- message.py new revision: 1.50; previous revision: 1.49 Done You'll need v1.50 of message.py, which should be available through anonymous CVS any time now. It's a simple change, so you could even just copy it from the patch on the check-ins list and apply it yourself. =Tony Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu May 13 18:04:15 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu May 13 18:04:32 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Using DB on two computers In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306556DDB@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677DE6@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I am not sure if I have the same outlook profile, but in the > material I saw on the web, it seems that I should be able to > copy the two DB files from one computer to the next - they > said not to copy the ini file. Not sure I understand why the > program does not "see" the two DB files that I copied into > the folder and replaced the others. Are you copying the files when Outlook is running? That is not a good idea, and would result in this. Otherwise, check your log files to see what files they say they are opening, and when they are being saved. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu May 13 18:06:47 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu May 13 18:07:02 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Recover In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306556DD1@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677DE7@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > We are having a problem with the Spam Recover button. > It is on the toolbar but when you click it it doesn't work. Does the other button ("SpamBayes") work? If yes: * This most likely means a database problem. Your log file would tell us - the troubleshooting guide explains where to find the log file. If you send it in, we can figure it out for you. Otherwise simply retraining *might* fix this. If no and you have Outlook 2002 or above: * SpamBayes has probably been disabled by Outlook - this happens for a variety of reasons. Click Help->About Microsoft Outlook->Disabled Items and check for SpamBayes. If it's there, enable it. If neither of these works, please let us know what version of Outlook, Windows, and SpamBayes you are using. Please also send us a copy of your most recent log. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu May 13 19:21:38 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu May 13 19:21:45 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Large Message Causing Crash In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306556D22@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677DED@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I'm sometimes lazy, and will email large files back and forth > from work and home. I found out todat this will cas > spambayes to crash (using sb_imapfilter, 1.0rc1). > > It's not a major problem, I knew when I saw the traceback > "MemoryError" what was going on, move the message and reran > sb without issue. I run sb though a cron, but had I been > using -l it would have stopped spam filtering, and in the > increase of all these MS emails going around it pretty likely > I'll get some too large emails I didn't send. > > I've looked around, but is there an option to have the imap > filter simply log the troubled email and go on to the next? > It doesn't solve the problem, but keeps it from stopping the > filtering. This should be what it does now. Have you checked that it doesn't? When the (any) error occurs, it should save the message with a "X-SpamBayes-Exception" header, detailing the problem, plus print out (to stderr) the traceback, and then continue on it's merry way. Note that with 1.0b1 it only continued on with some errors, but with 1.0rc1 it should be continuing regardless. If this *isn't* happening, could you send me a traceback? Maybe the error is occurring somewhere it doesn't expect it to. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu May 13 19:22:32 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu May 13 19:22:48 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Question about Version .7 or later In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306556D42@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677DEE@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > We are running SpamBayes and love it. Great program. But it > sometimes filters certain addresses to the SPAM or Spam > Possible folder no matter how much we train it. > > Is there a way to select certain addresses and exclude them > from filtering? Please see FAQ 6.6: =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From market at emailinfo123.com Thu May 13 01:56:14 2004 From: market at emailinfo123.com (Stock Profile) Date: Thu May 13 19:35:42 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Delivering Accelerated Performance For The Global 2000/Fortune 500 Market Message-ID: <200405130552.i4D5qWqj058263@mxzilla7.xs4all.nl> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040513/ea2d721b/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu May 13 20:22:02 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu May 13 20:22:13 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Startup problems under Office 2003 In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306556D23@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C021B@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Sorry, but I have searched my C: for "spam" in hidden and > system folders with no hit. If by this you mean that the Windows XP search was in hidden and system folders, then you wouldn't. This doesn't include the temp directory (as for why it doesn't: ask Microsoft). Searching the entire HD for "spambayes1.log" found it for me. In any case, just look in the temp directory. With XP, this is almost certainly C:\Documents and Settings\{username}\Local Settings\Temp. If it isn't, it's almost certain that you would know, because you have moved it elsewhere. > Sure you have tested it for Office 2003? Various people have reported using Spambayes successfully with Outlook 2003, yes. One of these people is the founder of the project, so is fairly trustworthy . > It shows up in Add/remove programs Please answer the other questions: > Having downloaded and installed the Intel version > for Windows XP, the config procedure started and asked > for folders. You mean that you started up Outlook and the SpamBayes Wizard appeared? > After completing it, nothing happens. So you completed the Wizard, but you don't have a new SpamBayes toolbar? It should have a "Delete As Spam" button and a "SpamBayes" button. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From jhinkle at techunix.technion.ac.il Thu May 13 20:48:24 2004 From: jhinkle at techunix.technion.ac.il (jhinkle@techunix.technion.ac.il) Date: Thu May 13 21:27:13 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes, How do they f@k.k with snakes? In-Reply-To: <3BC2D72E2GJB88LB@python.org> References: <3BC2D72E2GJB88LB@python.org> Message-ID: <5HHLG6E40DE1HH4I@techunix.technion.ac.il> Looks like you've come to a real Z00 here! Yeap! We have goats, we have horses, sheep, snakes, even dogs! e have lots of @n1m@ls here and we also have lots of g1r|s who just love to have some s. e -x with these creatures? How do they do it? http://zoo-action.com/av/val/?IaurY How do they sa-ck those c0c.k-s? How do they f@kk with snakes? Snakes don't have c0c.k-s!!! Guys! Our g1r|s can do it with every creature they want! They are ready for it! They are tired from men! They do realize that wild @n1m@ls are f@kking like no man would ever f@kk them. Cause they are animals and they f@kk just like everybody did thousands and millions years ago! http://zoo-action.com/av/val/?XziUT Stunning 1ma-.ges, v1de0s, art series, lots of @n1m@ls, y0.u-n.g horny g1r|s spre@d1ng their legs and s@kking c0c-k.s! This is a first ever -X-.-X-.-X- zoo where every g1r| can f@kk the creature she wants! LOOK AT THIS NOW! wppuGFxt FjXHRacvE From hera at optonline.net Thu May 13 21:48:37 2004 From: hera at optonline.net (Erin Lazzaro) Date: Thu May 13 21:48:42 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] What performance is good? Message-ID: <000001c43955$932ba150$6501a8c0@Peacemaker> How much do you expect to see in Junk Suspects? I get about 15% ham. All the ham goes in Inbox (I had one ham in Junk Suspects last week), along with 1 or 2 spam, which is beautiful. 25% to 30% of incoming mail goes in Junk Suspects. Is that reasonable? My database is unbalanced (36 ham/84 spam), so I'm only training on ham in Junk Suspects (i.e., hardly ever). Should I be seeking ham to train on? Thanks, Erin If "optimization" is the process of improving software performance, this sort of thing should be called "pessimization". -Scott Meyers From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu May 13 22:43:11 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu May 13 22:43:39 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] What performance is good? In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306556EF7@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C021C@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > How much do you expect to see in Junk Suspects? Good results would be 2-5% of total incoming mail, IMO. > I get about 15% ham. All the ham goes in Inbox (I had one > ham in Junk Suspects last week), along with 1 or 2 spam, > which is beautiful. 25% to 30% of incoming mail goes in Junk > Suspects. Is that reasonable? Are you displaying the scores for these messages? If so, do they all tend to score over a certain value? You might find, for example, that you can simply reduce the spam threshold (say to 80%) and the problem goes away. What do you have the thresholds set for now? (SpamBayes->SpamBayes Manager->iltering) > My database is unbalanced (36 ham/84 spam), so I'm only > training on ham in Junk Suspects (i.e., hardly ever). Should > I be seeking ham to train on? IMO, that's not imbalanced enough to worry about. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From talmon at tpg.com.au Thu May 13 23:23:55 2004 From: talmon at tpg.com.au (Talmon International Pty Ltd) Date: Thu May 13 23:25:17 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Were are my messages Message-ID: <000001c43962$e62fb140$2201a8c0@talmone3f2dq87> Hi, I have recently downloaded your spam software, at the moment it is recognising all new mail as spam or so I think. My problem is I don't no where to locate these messages once spambayes has dealt with them? Can you please help me find them. Regards, Paul From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu May 13 23:31:41 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu May 13 23:32:05 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Were are my messages In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306556F26@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677DF4@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I have recently downloaded your spam software, at the moment > it is recognising all new mail as spam or so I think. My > problem is I don't no where to locate these messages once > spambayes has dealt with them? Can you please help me find them. Please see FAQ 3.12: FWIW, if you didn't manually choose a spam folder, then it's probably called "Junk Mail" and is located at the top level of your main store. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From REGBUNNY at COMCAST.NET Thu May 13 23:39:39 2004 From: REGBUNNY at COMCAST.NET (REGBUNNY@COMCAST.NET) Date: Thu May 13 23:39:47 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] initial setup.i get no response from the program?????? Message-ID: A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From denis at hwgroup.ru Fri May 14 01:10:41 2004 From: denis at hwgroup.ru (denis@hwgroup.ru) Date: Fri May 14 01:10:48 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Symantec AVF detected that you sent a message with an unscannable attachment Message-ID: <001001c43971$cd739bd0$8282a8c0@office.highway.ru> Subject of the message: Hello Recipient of the message: Unknown Recipient(s) From 079idzgxgu at hotmail.it Thu May 13 12:56:26 2004 From: 079idzgxgu at hotmail.it (Claudia Rhodes) Date: Fri May 14 01:44:47 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Message-ID: <11$0g01$57sj5f981$57$5q$4@v2rcw7m5.ph> Spambayes CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP BUY XANAXx VAL1UM VICOD1N Plus many more at super l0w pr1ces http://www.buycheapdrugs.biz qm kq jwbgyxobhzcrceaemjlowqc doknsalvp ssv fyxplmmkdquu d From askoorb at fastmail.fm Fri May 14 03:08:55 2004 From: askoorb at fastmail.fm (Alex Brooks) Date: Fri May 14 03:09:01 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Using MySQL [WAS: The joys of error messages.] In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0219@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0219@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <40A47087.8080207@fastmail.fm> Tony Meyer wrote: >>Well, I have also got the error >> >>D:\Python23\Scripts>python sb_imapfilter.py -b >>Traceback (most recent call last): >> File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 121, in ? >> from spambayes.UserInterface import UserInterfaceServer >> File "D:\PYTHON23\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\UserInterface.py", line >> >> >89, in ? > > >> from spambayes import Stats >> File "D:\PYTHON23\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\Stats.py", line 34, in ? >> from spambayes.message import msginfoDB >>ImportError: cannot import name msginfoDB >> >>As I have said, I am using the latest CVS from the public server. >> >> > >Opps. This is my fault, sorry. When I said that you'd need CVS for a >change I had just checked in, I was referring to a change that I *hadn't* >just checked in. Now I have: > >Checking in spambayes/message.py; >/cvsroot/spambayes/spambayes/spambayes/message.py,v <-- message.py >new revision: 1.50; previous revision: 1.49 >Done > >You'll need v1.50 of message.py, which should be available through anonymous >CVS any time now. It's a simple change, so you could even just copy it from >the patch on the check-ins list and apply it yourself. > >=Tony Meyer > > > Still getting: D:\Python23\Scripts>python sb_imapfilter.py -b Traceback (most recent call last): File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 120, in ? from spambayes import tokenizer, storage, message, Dibbler File "D:\PYTHON23\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\message.py", line 219, in ? msginfoDB = MessageInfoPickle(message_info_db_name) File "D:\PYTHON23\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\message.py", line 147, in __init __ self.load() File "D:\PYTHON23\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\message.py", line 159, in load self.db = pickle.load(fp) File "D:\PYTHON23\lib\pickle.py", line 1390, in load return Unpickler(file).load() File "D:\PYTHON23\lib\pickle.py", line 872, in load dispatch[key](self) KeyError: '\x00' I think I might have messed something up somewhere on my end, I'll try deleating the windows\application data\spambayes folder and reconfiguring from scratch. Thanks Alex P.S. "Comment: Handle people using a storage type that isn't pickle/dbm (like one of the sql ones). If we trigger the TypeError problem, try to do our best to put the message together anyway (this is better than just leaving an X-SpamBayes-Exception header, which sb_server/sb_imapfilter currently do. This is what sb_filter currently does. Ideally, we should move to the new FeedParser in the email package, but we need to do that in some way that provides 2.2 users with an option. Maybe use it if it is there? Bugfix candidate." Looks Good! :-) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040514/c493ce7f/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri May 14 03:13:23 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri May 14 03:13:33 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Using MySQL [WAS: The joys of error messages.] In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306556F98@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677DF6@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > File "D:\PYTHON23\lib\pickle.py", line 872, in load > dispatch[key](self) > KeyError: '\x00' This probably means that there's an existing spambayes.messageinfo.db file there and it's a dbm one, not a pickle. Move it out of the way, and that should fix this (unless it's something else). =Tony Meyer From hkl at bitfix.dk Fri May 14 06:35:36 2004 From: hkl at bitfix.dk (Henrik K. 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040514/ce56eec6/attachment.html From royp at exchange.cis.pitt.edu Fri May 14 12:03:08 2004 From: royp at exchange.cis.pitt.edu (Pettigrew, Roy) Date: Fri May 14 12:03:14 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Question about dll registration Message-ID: Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 11835 bytes Desc: image001.jpg Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040514/aa07db1c/attachment.jpe From neel at mediapulse.com Fri May 14 12:59:03 2004 From: neel at mediapulse.com (Michael C. Neel) Date: Fri May 14 12:59:08 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Large Message Causing Crash In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677DED@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677DED@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1084553943.15112.57.camel@mike> Here is the traceback. The message had an 8MB attachment, so it's pretty big for an email. Deleting the large email and running again sb picked up an additional 18 spam emails, which it didn't get to the first time. Mike [neel@mike mep]$ sb_imapfilter.py -c -t -v -e y SpamBayes IMAP Filter Version 0.4 (May 2004) and engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004). Loading state from /home/neel/sb/mep/hammie.db database /home/neel/sb/mep/hammie.db is an existing database, with 386 spam and 145 ham Loading database /home/neel/sb/mep/hammie.db... Done. Training Training ham folder SPAM: Train As Good 0 trained. Training spam folder SPAM: Train As Bad 0 trained. Training took 0.0147 seconds, 0 messages were trained Classifying ............***.Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/sb_imapfilter.py", line 928, in ? run() File "/usr/bin/sb_imapfilter.py", line 918, in run imap_filter.Filter() File "/usr/bin/sb_imapfilter.py", line 789, in Filter self.unsure_folder) File "/usr/bin/sb_imapfilter.py", line 703, in Filter for msg in self: File "/usr/bin/sb_imapfilter.py", line 594, in __iter__ yield self[key] File "/usr/bin/sb_imapfilter.py", line 642, in __getitem__ msg.get_substance() File "/usr/bin/sb_imapfilter.py", line 384, in get_substance response = imap.uid("FETCH", self.uid, self.rfc822_command) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/imaplib.py", line 697, in uid typ, dat = self._simple_command(name, command, *args) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/imaplib.py", line 1000, in _simple_command return self._command_complete(name, self._command(name, *args)) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/imaplib.py", line 830, in _command_complete typ, data = self._get_tagged_response(tag) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/imaplib.py", line 931, in _get_tagged_response self._get_response() File "/usr/lib/python2.3/imaplib.py", line 893, in _get_response data = self.read(size) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/imaplib.py", line 231, in read return self.file.read(size) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/socket.py", line 311, in read return "".join(buffers) MemoryError [neel@mike mep]$ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Brooksby From SCHRADJA at cs.com Fri May 14 16:25:18 2004 From: SCHRADJA at cs.com (SCHRADJA@cs.com) Date: Fri May 14 16:25:41 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] WINDOWS 98 Message-ID: WILL SPAMBAYES WORK WITH WINDOWS 98? WHICH VERSION OF SPAMBAYES? THANK YOU. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040514/504f1a30/attachment.html From tim.one at comcast.net Fri May 14 16:37:04 2004 From: tim.one at comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Fri May 14 16:37:07 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] WINDOWS 98 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [SCHRADJA@cs.com] > WILL SPAMBAYES WORK WITH WINDOWS 98? Yes. > WHICH VERSION OF SPAMBAYES? All. I happen to be typing this on a Win98SE box with Outlook 2000 right now, using the SpamBayes Outlook addin. The latter only works with Outlook versions >= 2000, not with Outlook 98, and not with any version of Outlook Express. Your mail client has much more to do with which version of SpamBayes you need than the version of Windows you use. You didn't say which mail client you use. If you're not using Outlook >= 2000, then see the "Non Outlook Solutions" section at the bottom of: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/windows.html From appleaday at pol.net Fri May 14 16:45:45 2004 From: appleaday at pol.net (appleaday@pol.net) Date: Fri May 14 16:45:50 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] WINDOWS 98 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <16404.10.250.10.1.1084567545.squirrel@sq03.pol.net> Thanks for responding so quickly. I am using Outlook Express. Do I need to change to Outlook? Thanks, Jane Schrader From efrenand at tampabay.rr.com Fri May 14 20:37:16 2004 From: efrenand at tampabay.rr.com (Ed) Date: Fri May 14 20:37:27 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Log files with errors attached. 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But I also hanker for a small feature which I feel would be easy to add and which I feel would be of great use to many users. Now that "background processing" (a most useful feature) is a standard default, I wish for a "virtual LED", placed on the side of the Spambayes toolbar which would indicate something like: (grey) when Spambayes is Idle, (yellow) when Spambayes is accepting new mail from Outlook during an automatic or manual "Send-Receive", (green) when Spambayes is processing and filtering mail, and back to (grey) when Spambayes is idle. I've not thought this very far, but I feel the need to ask Spambayes what it is doing at a given moment, especially with slow dial-up connections. Perhaps others can add to the idea. Jim Hamill -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040515/69e14f64/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat May 15 22:45:27 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat May 15 22:45:51 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] registering for all users In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306557326@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677DF7@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I have been trying to get spambayes to register for > all users, but get the following screen. > > C:\Program Files\SpamBayes\bin\outlook_addin.dll was loaded, > but the DllInstall entry point was not found. > File can not be registered. Try doing this: (note that this is from the online version of the troubleshooting guide; it can be worth checking that to see that it hasn't been updated since the release you're using) """ SpamBayes is not available for all users on the machine. When SpamBayes is installed, by default it is available only for the user who installed it. This is to allow SpamBayes to appear in Microsoft Outlook's Com-Addin list, and therefore able to be activated and de-activated by the user inside Outlook. It is possible to register the addin so it is available to all users on a particular machine, which can be useful in enterprise arrangements where users have 'roaming profiles' To register SpamBayes in this way, you must log on as a user with permissions to modify the system registry, then execute the command (obviously with the correct path substituted): "c:\Program Files\SpamBayes\bin\outlook_addin_register.exe" hkey_local_machine If you check the installation log after performing such an install, you should see the following messages: Registered: SpamBayes.OutlookAddin Registration complete. Registration (in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE) complete. Note the last line, which does not exist when registration is performed only for the current user. Once you have performed this registration, the Addin will be available for all users - but as noted above, it will no longer appear in Outlook's Com-Addin list. """ =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat May 15 22:46:04 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat May 15 22:46:14 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Question about dll registration In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306557058@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677DF8@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I am trying to make the SpamBayes addin available to > multiple users on Windows XP Service Pack 1 machines > and when I run regsvr32.exe I get: [...] Try doing this: (note that this is from the online version of the troubleshooting guide; it can be worth checking that to see that it hasn't been updated since the release you're using) """ SpamBayes is not available for all users on the machine. When SpamBayes is installed, by default it is available only for the user who installed it. This is to allow SpamBayes to appear in Microsoft Outlook's Com-Addin list, and therefore able to be activated and de-activated by the user inside Outlook. It is possible to register the addin so it is available to all users on a particular machine, which can be useful in enterprise arrangements where users have 'roaming profiles' To register SpamBayes in this way, you must log on as a user with permissions to modify the system registry, then execute the command (obviously with the correct path substituted): "c:\Program Files\SpamBayes\bin\outlook_addin_register.exe" hkey_local_machine If you check the installation log after performing such an install, you should see the following messages: Registered: SpamBayes.OutlookAddin Registration complete. Registration (in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE) complete. Note the last line, which does not exist when registration is performed only for the current user. Once you have performed this registration, the Addin will be available for all users - but as noted above, it will no longer appear in Outlook's Com-Addin list. """ =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat May 15 22:48:13 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat May 15 22:48:30 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Help - Problem SENDING email to some addresses In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13065573E0@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677DF9@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I accidentally marked a couple of legitimate email addresses > as "delete as spam". I then removed them from the spam > folder, and can now RECEIVE emails from theses addresses, but > cannot SEND to these addresses. All of my sends to these > particular addresses, which I know are legitimate, get > bounced back to me. Why is this and what do I need to do to > correct it? SpamBayes doesn't do anything at all with outgoing mail, so the problem isn't there. (To demonstrate this, send mail to those addresses (checking that they're identical) from some other mail client, and you'll see the same problem). My best advice would be to read the bounce message - it should tell you *why* it bounced, and that should give you a clue as to what to do about it (check the email address, wait for them to clear space in their mailbox, try again later, ...) =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat May 15 22:49:37 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat May 15 22:49:56 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Web version of Outlook In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306557199@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677DFA@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Will Spambayes work with the Web version of Outlook > 2000 (on XP? On Me?) No, sorry. (Although if you're using OWA *and* Outlook, then you can have SpamBayes running with Outlook and see the benefits (and drag-and-drop train) when reading via OWA). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat May 15 22:52:31 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat May 15 22:52:41 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Request for neat feature for Outlook add-in In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306557405@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677DFB@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I've been using the Outlook plug-in under Winwoes > 98SE for quite some while now, and I'm delighted > at the progress made. Thank you very much for the > great progress so far! [snip] Isn't this a duplicate of a message from April 5th? It appears to be (it's sitting in the 119 messages from this list I still haven't got to, or seen someone else get to). Sorry no-one's replied yet, but it wasn't obvious from the message that a reply was needed, and if it was, that it was required quickly... Note that reposting isn't going to help. If you really want to make sure that the feature request isn't lost in list traffic, then open a feature request on sourceforge: . In terms of the request, it sounds like a nice enough idea, although possibly a fair bit of work to get done. There's a chance that it'd get added at some point (but certainly not before 1.0). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat May 15 22:53:33 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat May 15 22:53:47 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Log files with errors attached. In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306557171@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677DFC@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I have not been able to successfully uninstall Spambayes > and reinstall it so that it works successfully. Can you > please help? Your log files indicate that SpamBayes is disabled. Simply open up the SpamBayes->SpamBayes Manager, and tick the "Enable SpamBayes" button. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat May 15 22:58:56 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat May 15 22:59:09 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: [spambayes-bugs] X-Spambayes-Exception problem In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F130655705E@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677DFD@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> [Note that spambayes-bugs is a list for automated mail tracking the bugs/feature requests/patches handled by the sourceforge system. Mail like this should be directed to spambayes@python.org. You can find a description of the various lists at ] > I've been running Spambayes for a while with great success. > Recently, several messages, identified as spam through the web > interface, get through my mailer's filter because no > > X-Spambayes-Classification: spam > > header is added to the message. Instead, they have: > > X-Spambayes-Exception: exceptions.UnicodeError(ASCII > decoding error: ordinal > not in range(128)) in append() at > /usr/lib/python2.2/email/Header.py line 230: ustr = > unicode(s, incodec) This means that SpamBayes failed to parse the message, because it was invalid in some way. SpamBayes does what it can to handle invalid messages, but sometimes the message is so invalid that it fails, so it adds the header indicating that this was the case, and continues on. What version of SpamBayes are you using? We try and address new ways that spammers come up with mangling messages so that they don't become a simple way around the filtering. I thought I recalled that something like this was fixed a wee while back (but could be wrong). If you're not using 1.0b1 or 1.0rc1, it'd be worth upgrading. Some time later in the year (after 1.0 comes out), it's likely that SpamBayes will handle messages like this much better, whatever the malformation (thanks to improvements in the underlying email library that SpamBayes uses). Until then, it does what it can. > Several of them appear to have strange characters throughout > the spam (weird encoding?), others are plain text. Spambayes > id's them as spam, but somehow fails to tag them as such... What makes you say that SpamBayes identifies them as spam? From this, it seems like SpamBayes is failing to identify them as anything, and tagging them as such. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat May 15 22:59:50 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat May 15 23:00:07 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] 0% goes to possible spam In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306557056@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677DFE@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Recently my Spambayaes v. 0.8 for Windows started moving > messages with low or even 0% score to the Possible Spam > folder. I raised the threshold to 80%, but it didn't make > any difference. Installing version 1.0b didn't help. Can > you point me to the right direction? Could you send us your most recent log file? The troubleshooting guide (SpamBayes->Help->Troubleshooting Guide) explains where to find that. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat May 15 23:09:42 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat May 15 23:09:57 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] sbserver question In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F130655705F@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677DFF@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > The status reports: Total emails trained: Spam: 1935 Ham: 323 > Then prints the message: "Warning: you have much more spam than ham - > SpamBayes works best with approximately even numbers of ham and spam." > > I've searched and can't find a way to 'delete' spam messages, > particularly older spam, from the training database. Can anyone > instruct me how this can be done. If there's a warning that the > spam/ham ratio is too high, there ought to be a way to correct it. Unfortunately, there are only two ways to correct it at present (through sb_server): 1. Retrain from scratch. 2. Train more [whichever is low]. Imbalance, training regimes, and expiring old messages are all things that people are still looking into, and there isn't a clear answer as to what to do, so things aren't as good as they could be at the moment. The hope of the warning message was that people would see it when they had (eg) 100 spam and 20 ham, and so could just hold off training spam until they had a more balanced corpus. Note that using train-on-mistakes with appropriate thresholds, or non-edge training, tends to result in a reasonably balanced corpus, as well as good results. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From ta-meyer at ihug.co.nz Sat May 15 23:26:38 2004 From: ta-meyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat May 15 23:26:52 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] "Delete as Spam" doesn't move until after selection is lost Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C021D@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > It is definitely when I click off of it...I can sit there and watch it > for several minutes and nothing happens, but as soon as I click off it's > gone (or if I click on it immediately its gone). New incoming mail will > cause it too..I guess anything that causes the emphasis to be off of > that particular message. I don't see any errors in the log..here is an > example of what got written after I clicked "delete as spam" on a > message in my "junk suspects" folder (and sat and watched it still sit > there for several minutes until I clicked the next message): Hmm. I had this happen to me (Outlook 2002) today. Exactly as you describe - the message would be moved as far as SpamBayes was concerned, but the Outlook view wouldn't change until I deselected the message(s). Annoyingly, though, I can't duplicate this now. I had wondered whether maybe the Exchange server had been updated and that caused it, but that wouldn't explain why I can do it again later. I have restarted Outlook since, but it seems unlikely that that was the fix. In any case, if I do come across this again, I'll be sure to look into it more. Until then, I can't think of anything but writing it off as an Outlook/Exchange quirk. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat May 15 23:27:51 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat May 15 23:28:05 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Large Message Causing Crash In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F130655705A@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677E02@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Here is the traceback. The message had an 8MB attachment, > so it's pretty big for an email. Deleting the large email > and running again sb picked up an additional 18 spam emails, > which it didn't get to the first time. Thanks, much appreciated. It is happening in a different place than the one where the problem would be gracefully handled - I'll check in a fix that at least lets imapfilter carry on ignoring the problem message. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From sflam at healthfusion.com Sat May 15 23:43:45 2004 From: sflam at healthfusion.com (Seth Flam) Date: Sat May 15 23:43:53 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] what program can I use to open the .db file Message-ID: <200405160343.i4G3hlce021688@ms-smtp-02-eri0.socal.rr.com> thanks Dr. Seth Flam Cell 858-354-5050 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040515/71c91b29/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat May 15 23:52:58 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat May 15 23:53:21 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Startup problems under Office 2003 In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306556F78@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677E03@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Yes, you are right. The log > Files were there in the temp folder, I looked at the wrong user! > > It is new to me that basic search does not work in temp folders! I don't know why that is - it doesn't really make sense to me to say "All folders" and have Windows exclude some. No doubt it made sense to some programmer at Microsoft. > Here comes my log files! The log files indicate that SpamBayes is disabled. If you open up the SpamBayes Manager (from the SpamBayes button on the toolbar) there is a "Enable SpamBayes" button. If you tick that, things should start working. If you can't tick it (it's greyed out), then the box above the button should explain why that is. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat May 15 23:55:34 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat May 15 23:55:52 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] what program can I use to open the .db file In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F130655742D@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677E04@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> What do you want to do with it? i.e. why do you want to open it? You can use the sb_dbexpimp.py script that comes with the source to convert it to a comma-separated-values (CSV) file, if that would be of use. You can use the contrib/spamcounts.py script that also comes with the source to query the database in various ways (you can also use the sb_server web interface to do this, to an extent). Will those do? =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From rs81wu at disney.com Sun May 16 01:03:08 2004 From: rs81wu at disney.com (Bryon Goins) Date: Sun May 16 00:06:37 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Hows are you feeling today? Message-ID: Spambayes CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP BUY XANAXx VAL1UM VICOD1N Plus many more at super l0w pr1ces http://www.buycheapdrugs.biz 4 b arbutus No Thanks http://www.biglakeinfo.biz/qog345/104/rf.html eqqikodr y fpa p sslq u ikxry atd From g4ekobeuz at juno.com Sun May 16 06:42:50 2004 From: g4ekobeuz at juno.com (Patrica Langston) Date: Sun May 16 00:44:20 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Important Health Information You Need. Message-ID: Spambayes CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP BUY XANAXx VAL1UM VICOD1N Plus many more at super l0w pr1ces http://www.buycheapdrugs.biz 5 j commandant No Thanks http://www.biglakeinfo.biz/qog345/104/rf.html eimguqa aa fzsic ebg ydjdgepisynggefb wv psqlllbusehfnmpdkzsnbx hdiqfahm r v From service at usbank.com Sat May 15 22:38:49 2004 From: service at usbank.com (service@usbank.com) Date: Sun May 16 01:00:17 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Renew Your Account. Message-ID: <200405160238.i4G2cmxp036183@mxzilla3.xs4all.nl> E-mail message content
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 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040516/fcfce220/attachment.html From George at marlensystems.com Sun May 16 07:27:33 2004 From: George at marlensystems.com (George Kesler) Date: Sun May 16 07:29:23 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] 0% goes to possible spam Message-ID: <732AB3AE4FC9BE47AB6362350B28C92F88E8@pcls-fs1.PCLANScape.local> Three log files are attached. After number three I turned of moving to the Possible Spam folder. -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 11:00 PM To: George Kesler; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] 0% goes to possible spam > Recently my Spambayaes v. 0.8 for Windows started moving > messages with low or even 0% score to the Possible Spam > folder. I raised the threshold to 80%, but it didn't make > any difference. Installing version 1.0b didn't help. Can > you point me to the right direction? Could you send us your most recent log file? The troubleshooting guide (SpamBayes->Help->Troubleshooting Guide) explains where to find that. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: sblog.zip Type: application/x-zip-compressed Size: 3525 bytes Desc: sblog.zip Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040516/3581b676/sblog.bin From howard at burnsaddress.com Sun May 16 08:48:39 2004 From: howard at burnsaddress.com (Howard Burns) Date: Sun May 16 08:48:54 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Need Help With Resetting Training DB Message-ID: <000701c43b44$203add00$6501a8c0@238az> Hi. I am wondering if you could help me. I just upgraded to the new release (1.0b1). I want to totally start training all over again. I have a few message that are clearly spam (fyi, they all related to an illegal cable descrambler) and each of these messages go to the unsure folder. Daily I delete them as SPAM. Daily, these same new message go to the UNSURE folder. I figure that maybe I have screwed up the training of SpamBayes. Supposedly, it says that to restart the training DB, that I need to go to the TRAINING tab of the SpamBayes manager. Then it says to make sure that the REBUILD ENTIRE DB box is checked. Mine was already checked. With no other instructions, I figured I'd have to click on the START TRAINING button. When I click on it, it says "You must specify at least one spam and one good folder." On the training tab the two folder locations are blank. I don't want to train on my INBOX as there is probably junk mail that has not been deleted. My SPAM folder is empty as I delete SPAM after it has been tracked. FYI, I train by using the DELETE AS SPAM or RECOVER FROM SPAM buttons as I don't have folders of good/SPAM msgs. Can you help me in how to totally reset the training DB and continue my training as above? Regards, Howard M. Burns ==================== Cell: 978-828-9777 Email: howard@burnsaddress.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040516/a3899a31/attachment.html From howard at burnsaddress.com Sun May 16 08:49:38 2004 From: howard at burnsaddress.com (Howard Burns) Date: Sun May 16 08:49:50 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: Need Help With Resetting Training DB Message-ID: <000c01c43b44$406740a0$6501a8c0@238az> I forgot to mention in the msg below that I am using the Outlook plug-in. Regards, Howard -----Original Message----- From: Howard Burns [mailto:howard@burnsaddress.com] Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 8:49 AM To: 'spambayes@python.org' Subject: Need Help With Resetting Training DB Hi. I am wondering if you could help me. I just upgraded to the new release (1.0b1). I want to totally start training all over again. I have a few message that are clearly spam (fyi, they all related to an illegal cable descrambler) and each of these messages go to the unsure folder. Daily I delete them as SPAM. Daily, these same new message go to the UNSURE folder. I figure that maybe I have screwed up the training of SpamBayes. Supposedly, it says that to restart the training DB, that I need to go to the TRAINING tab of the SpamBayes manager. Then it says to make sure that the REBUILD ENTIRE DB box is checked. Mine was already checked. With no other instructions, I figured I'd have to click on the START TRAINING button. When I click on it, it says "You must specify at least one spam and one good folder." On the training tab the two folder locations are blank. I don't want to train on my INBOX as there is probably junk mail that has not been deleted. My SPAM folder is empty as I delete SPAM after it has been tracked. FYI, I train by using the DELETE AS SPAM or RECOVER FROM SPAM buttons as I don't have folders of good/SPAM msgs. Can you help me in how to totally reset the training DB and continue my training as above? Regards, Howard M. Burns ==================== Cell: 978-828-9777 Email: howard@burnsaddress.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040516/e52edee8/attachment-0001.html From marketingdirecto at eyou.com Mon May 17 02:18:01 2004 From: marketingdirecto at eyou.com (marketingdirecto@eyou.com) Date: Mon May 17 02:18:49 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] I,05/17 Message-ID: <200405170618.i4H6IcQt037383@mxzilla6.xs4all.nl> Dear Sir, we have been in the field of diesel fuel injection systems for quite a few years.(CHINA) Recently we have developed a new kind of h&r, "CH-D90101A=AM Bosch number HD90101A"Its unit price is USD150/pc.And we also adjust the unit price of Nozzle , Plunger to USD4~8/pc respectively. 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Message-ID: Is there any connection, relation or cooperation between these two projects? They are both open-source and based on the same principles, but I have not seen any reference to Bogo in the SB FAQ and vice versa. Amir -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040517/8e22d967/attachment.html From wizworks at maqs.net Mon May 17 05:02:53 2004 From: wizworks at maqs.net (Lee J. Keslin) Date: Mon May 17 05:06:45 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] www.theusmat.com New Emag Blog, News, Expose, Message-ID: <000601c43bed$bf888660$1224bb42@leemoses> Notice To The Publishers of The Python anti spam website (Spambayes) which posted an anti spam notice to Search Engines about the website TheUSMat I am Lee J Keslin, the publisher of The US Mat, I do not have or own a email list or the facilities to do a mass mailing . I used an outsourcing to do a one time targeted promotion of my website to the states of Wisconsin, and Illinois, which the out source did not do.To my chagrin the outsource sent a mailing out world wide and very little to the US. However the content of the material sent out should be very clear to the recipient that it was an invitation to that area to view my website, which merchandizes nothing, no porn, no pills,no phoney pleas for money, contains no cookies, or virus (unless the outsource inserted them in which I doubt all he was was some poor smuck who thought he obtained a good mailing list and was trying to make a buck) and contains proper language. But instead offers comment which one may or may not agree with. And the latter is the basis I believe is the basis for complaints by some to disparage, and discredit, implying a faudulent activity designed to prevent this websites publication. 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040517/8c4eec28/attachment.html From xr11mcne at rai.it Mon May 17 02:57:16 2004 From: xr11mcne at rai.it (Julian Chase) Date: Mon May 17 07:01:50 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] obuequious brll Message-ID: <1--$jb21-n6a$9$g5d$$4$vmb-m2@ix4y2s.of3qfgb> Spambayes CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP BUY XANAXx VAL1UM VICOD1N Plus many more at super l0w pr1ces http://www.phramastore.biz/free/b/ 5 y scarface No Thanks http://www.biglakeinfo.biz/qog345/104/rf.html ux t g jdugcic zy h ks yvse jyoqyyetccrcntrkbmrmlewhr j From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Mon May 17 07:25:30 2004 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Mon May 17 07:25:35 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] "Delete as Spam" doesn't move until after selection islost Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F500146DFBE@SPIKE.city> To me, that looks more like a screen refresh issue than an Outlook or Exchange functionality problem. Your ability to reproduce it might depend on such unpredictable factors as how busy the client, the server, or the network is at the time. Bob > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces@python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of Tony Meyer > Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 11:27 PM > To: 'Brewer, Gary'; spambayes@python.org > Subject: [Spambayes] "Delete as Spam" doesn't move until > after selection > islost > > > > It is definitely when I click off of it...I can sit there and watch it > > for several minutes and nothing happens, but as soon as I click off it's > > gone (or if I click on it immediately its gone). New incoming mail will > > cause it too..I guess anything that causes the emphasis to be off of > > that particular message. I don't see any errors in the log..here is an > > example of what got written after I clicked "delete as spam" on a > > message in my "junk suspects" folder (and sat and watched it still sit > > there for several minutes until I clicked the next message): > > Hmm. I had this happen to me (Outlook 2002) today. Exactly as you describe > - the message would be moved as far as SpamBayes was concerned, but the > Outlook view wouldn't change until I deselected the message(s). > > Annoyingly, though, I can't duplicate this now. I had wondered whether > maybe the Exchange server had been updated and that caused it, but that > wouldn't explain why I can do it again later. I have restarted Outlook > since, but it seems unlikely that that was the fix. > > In any case, if I do come across this again, I'll be sure to look into it > more. Until then, I can't think of anything but writing it off as an > Outlook/Exchange quirk. > > =Tony Meyer From denis at hwgroup.ru Mon May 17 07:16:20 2004 From: denis at hwgroup.ru (denis@hwgroup.ru) Date: Mon May 17 07:26:41 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Symantec AVF detected that you sent a message with an unscannable attachment Message-ID: <011801c43c00$617ec120$8282a8c0@office.highway.ru> Subject of the message: Hello Recipient of the message: Unknown Recipient(s) From brewerg at vt.edu Mon May 17 08:34:56 2004 From: brewerg at vt.edu (Brewer, Gary) Date: Mon May 17 08:35:05 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] "Delete as Spam" doesn't move until after selectionislost Message-ID: <89DE71075FCD6E44A4D117FBFBBD801C0148FFC7@fangorn.cc.vt.edu> For me its not a problem reproducing it...it happens every day all day since I installed Office 2003 (I never had it happen in Outlook 2002 but I only used it for a couple months before upgrading). For normal activities such as a standard delete, the view is updated immediately. It's only messages that are being affected by Spambayes that the problem occurs. I'm running on a new Dell Optiplex GX270 with a 3.19 GHz processor, a gig of ram, and a NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 video with 128 MB of dedicated ram, so I would think the machine can handle it...but I guess weirder things have happened. > -----Original Message----- > From: Coe, Bob [mailto:rcoe@CambridgeMA.GOV] > Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 7:25 AM > To: spambayes@Python.org > Subject: RE: [Spambayes] "Delete as Spam" doesn't move until after > selectionislost > > To me, that looks more like a screen refresh issue than an Outlook or > Exchange functionality problem. Your ability to reproduce it might depend > on such unpredictable factors as how busy the client, the server, or the > network is at the time. > > Bob > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: spambayes-bounces@python.org > > [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of Tony Meyer > > Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 11:27 PM > > To: 'Brewer, Gary'; spambayes@python.org > > Subject: [Spambayes] "Delete as Spam" doesn't move until > > after selection > > islost > > > > > > > It is definitely when I click off of it...I can sit there and watch it > > > for several minutes and nothing happens, but as soon as I click off > it's > > > gone (or if I click on it immediately its gone). New incoming mail > will > > > cause it too..I guess anything that causes the emphasis to be off of > > > that particular message. I don't see any errors in the log..here is an > > > example of what got written after I clicked "delete as spam" on a > > > message in my "junk suspects" folder (and sat and watched it still sit > > > there for several minutes until I clicked the next message): > > > > Hmm. I had this happen to me (Outlook 2002) today. Exactly as you > describe > > - the message would be moved as far as SpamBayes was concerned, but the > > Outlook view wouldn't change until I deselected the message(s). > > > > Annoyingly, though, I can't duplicate this now. I had wondered whether > > maybe the Exchange server had been updated and that caused it, but that > > wouldn't explain why I can do it again later. I have restarted Outlook > > since, but it seems unlikely that that was the fix. > > > > In any case, if I do come across this again, I'll be sure to look into > it > > more. Until then, I can't think of anything but writing it off as an > > Outlook/Exchange quirk. > > > > =Tony Meyer > > _______________________________________________ > Spambayes@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From skip at pobox.com Mon May 17 09:11:52 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Mon May 17 09:11:40 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Correlation between Bogofilter and SpamBayes? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <16552.47640.535017.931791@montanaro.dyndns.org> Amir> Is there any connection, relation or cooperation between these two Amir> projects? They are both open-source and based on the same Amir> principles, but I have not seen any reference to Bogo in the SB Amir> FAQ and vice versa. None that I'm aware of other than the usual cross-fertilization stuff. Skip From relson at osagesoftware.com Mon May 17 09:25:48 2004 From: relson at osagesoftware.com (David Relson) Date: Mon May 17 09:26:04 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Correlation between Bogofilter and SpamBayes? In-Reply-To: <16552.47640.535017.931791@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <16552.47640.535017.931791@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <20040517092548.777f9bb4@osage.osagesoftware.com> On Mon, 17 May 2004 08:11:52 -0500 Skip Montanaro wrote: > > Amir> Is there any connection, relation or cooperation between > these two Amir> projects? They are both open-source and based on > the same Amir> principles, but I have not seen any reference to > Bogo in the SB Amir> FAQ and vice versa. > > None that I'm aware of other than the usual cross-fertilization stuff. > > Skip Skip, That sounds about right. They use different languages and have different focuses. Bogofilter tends towards Linux/Unix mail servers and SpamBayes seems to focus on the Windows user. David From skip at pobox.com Mon May 17 09:37:57 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Mon May 17 09:37:44 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Correlation between Bogofilter and SpamBayes? In-Reply-To: <20040517092548.777f9bb4@osage.osagesoftware.com> References: <16552.47640.535017.931791@montanaro.dyndns.org> <20040517092548.777f9bb4@osage.osagesoftware.com> Message-ID: <16552.49205.478242.916550@montanaro.dyndns.org> David> Bogofilter tends towards Linux/Unix mail servers and SpamBayes David> seems to focus on the Windows user. Except for those of us who use Spambayes on Linux, Unix and/or MacOSX... ;-) That the Outlook plugin is so popular is no great surprise. It's tightly integrated with what is probably the worlds most popular mail program on the world's most popular computing platform and is thus available to the most people having serious spam problems. Still, with the sb_server, sb_imapfilter and sb_filter/sb_bnfilter programs it can hook into just about any other standards-based mail environment. Skip From relson at osagesoftware.com Mon May 17 09:54:11 2004 From: relson at osagesoftware.com (David Relson) Date: Mon May 17 09:54:30 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Correlation between Bogofilter and SpamBayes? In-Reply-To: <16552.49205.478242.916550@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <16552.47640.535017.931791@montanaro.dyndns.org> <20040517092548.777f9bb4@osage.osagesoftware.com> <16552.49205.478242.916550@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <20040517095411.235cf69a@osage.osagesoftware.com> On Mon, 17 May 2004 08:37:57 -0500 Skip Montanaro wrote: > David> Bogofilter tends towards Linux/Unix mail servers and > SpamBayes David> seems to focus on the Windows user. > > Except for those of us who use Spambayes on Linux, Unix and/or > MacOSX... ;-) and those who use cygwin for bogofilter :-) David From Amir_Katz at bmc.com Mon May 17 09:56:03 2004 From: Amir_Katz at bmc.com (Katz, Amir) Date: Mon May 17 09:56:28 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Correlation between Bogofilter and SpamBayes? Message-ID: It's true that from the Windoze's end user, there is no overlap, but from the server side, it seems (at least to me) that there may be some overlap between Bogofilter and the sb_server & friends. Am I right? -----Original Message----- From: Skip Montanaro [mailto:skip@pobox.com] Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 16:38 To: David Relson Cc: Spambayes mailing list (E-mail) Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Correlation between Bogofilter and SpamBayes? David> Bogofilter tends towards Linux/Unix mail servers and SpamBayes David> seems to focus on the Windows user. Except for those of us who use Spambayes on Linux, Unix and/or MacOSX... ;-) That the Outlook plugin is so popular is no great surprise. It's tightly integrated with what is probably the worlds most popular mail program on the world's most popular computing platform and is thus available to the most people having serious spam problems. Still, with the sb_server, sb_imapfilter and sb_filter/sb_bnfilter programs it can hook into just about any other standards-based mail environment. Skip _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From skip at pobox.com Mon May 17 10:29:21 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Mon May 17 10:29:13 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Correlation between Bogofilter and SpamBayes? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <16552.52289.362055.678032@montanaro.dyndns.org> Amir> It's true that from the Windoze's end user, there is no overlap, Amir> but from the server side, it seems (at least to me) that there may Amir> be some overlap between Bogofilter and the sb_server & friends. Am Amir> I right? Sort of. Both drew initial inspiration from "A Plan for Spam" but were developed pretty much independently. Skip From doug.pratt at sbcglobal.net Mon May 17 12:17:11 2004 From: doug.pratt at sbcglobal.net (Doug Pratt) Date: Mon May 17 12:15:00 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Stop working after installing new version Message-ID: <000001c43c2a$6ec36a50$990bfea9@DJP> I need some help. But first of all, I really like this program. I have been using it for many months now and it never falsely detected a spam email. Okay, here is my machine Windows XP with all the updates, Outlook 2002, SpamBayes 1.0b1, two users/accounts that use email on this machine. Here is my problem; I originally started with an older version of SpamBayes (don't recall the version but I downloaded 6-8 months ago) and it worked like a charm for me and my wife. I saw that there was a newer version so I uninstalled the old version and installed the new one. It still work fine for me but when my wife logs in and goes to Outlook, the two SpamBayes button are there but they are not functional. It doesn't do anything when you click on them. I tried to use the troubleshooting guide but it's over my head. I did note on my wife side, COM add-ins is empty (no files listed or checked). I would appreciate it if you can help me solve this problem. If this is not clear or you need any additional information, don't hesitate to let me know. I also have a question about the program. Does this program need to keep the spam email after they have been detected or can they be deleted? I don't know if it needs to keep them for its training. TIA Best Regards, Doug Pratt (469) 384-1969 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Just giving something will be good (time, money, beers, etc) since it is free. Making a donation , will put you on the "not cheap" side ! > It just got me to thinking and I don't want open anything that is > infected if I don't have to. To be infected by a virus you need to execute the code/file. What Spambayes does is open the file for reading without trying to execute the file. In some software (like Outlook) clicking on the file means: "Try to find the best software to read/execute the file depending on the extension". So don't worry, there is no problem with Spambayes reading an email with a virus. I have almost 600 emails in my spam folder and my virus scanner complains for almost 400 of them. But I was not infected by those virus even if Spambayes read them. Remi -- /"\ \ / X ASCII Ribbon Campaign / \ Against HTML Email From tim.one at comcast.net Mon May 17 14:08:28 2004 From: tim.one at comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Mon May 17 14:08:34 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] www.theusmat.com New Emag Blog, News, Expose, In-Reply-To: <000601c43bed$bf888660$1224bb42@leemoses> Message-ID: [Lee J. Keslin] > Notice To The Publishers of The Python anti spam website (Spambayes) spambayes.sourceforge.net is hosted by SourceForge, but we're responsible for its content. > which posted an anti spam notice to Search Engines about the website > TheUSMat Sorry, I don't know what that means. You can download a spam filter from the SpamBayes web site, but that's all. We're not a spam reporting service, and don't post anything about spam (or about anything else) to anyone ("Search Engines" or otherwise). It's possible that a spambayes user who received your mailing complained about it -- and, based on what you say next, it does sound like spam to me. > I am Lee J Keslin, the publisher of The US Mat, I do not have or own a > email list or the facilities to do a mass mailing . I used an > outsourcing to do a one time targeted promotion of my website to the > states of Wisconsin, and Illinois, which the out source did not do.To > my chagrin the outsource sent a mailing out world wide and very little > to the US. While definitions of spam vary, unsolicited bulk email is one commonly accepted meaning (neither "one time" nor "targeted" change that a thing is any of "unsolicited", "bulk", or "email" -- and given that you say it was sprayed all over the world, "targeted" doesn't apply in reality). > However the content of the material sent out should be very clear to > the recipient that it was an invitation to that area to view my website, > which merchandizes nothing, no porn, no pills,no phoney pleas for > money, contains no cookies, or virus (unless the outsource inserted them > in which I doubt all he was was some poor smuck who thought he obtained > a good mailing list and was trying to make a buck) and contains proper > language. But instead offers comment which one may or may not agree > with. And the latter is the basis I believe is the basis for complaints > by some to disparage, and discredit, implying a faudulent activity > designed to prevent this websites publication. > > Unless your posting is not immediately removed What posting? Please point to it, or to a copy. I really don't have a clue as to what you're talking about. As above, the spambayes website doesn't post anything to anyone about anything. > Further legal action is under active consideration Nice to meet you too -- heh. From adam.walker at rbwconsulting.com Mon May 17 15:07:56 2004 From: adam.walker at rbwconsulting.com (Adam Walker) Date: Mon May 17 15:08:01 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] www.theusmat.com New Emag Blog, News, Expose, In-Reply-To: <20040517181001.8D9F113D985@sack.dreamhost.com> References: <20040517181001.8D9F113D985@sack.dreamhost.com> Message-ID: <40A90D8C.2050404@rbwconsulting.com> Here is his "targeted on-time" email. http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/2004-April/012544.html From jkruger at mindspring.com Mon May 17 18:33:37 2004 From: jkruger at mindspring.com (John Kruger) Date: Mon May 17 15:33:56 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 Message-ID: Hello, I used a previous version of spambayes with the prior version of Outlook and then upgraded to Outlook 2003 in January of this year. My operating system is XP Professional. I loved it for spam protection. I had major problems using spambayes when I upgraded my Outlook to 2003. Does the new version of spambayes work well with Outlook 2003? Thanks, John -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040517/c57b9985/attachment.html From tim.one at comcast.net Mon May 17 15:40:32 2004 From: tim.one at comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Mon May 17 15:40:34 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2003 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [John Kruger] > I used a previous version of spambayes with the prior version of > Outlook and then upgraded to Outlook 2003 in January of this year. > My operating system is XP Professional.? I loved it for spam > protection. I had major problems using spambayes when I upgraded > my Outlook to 2003. Does the new version of spambayes work well > with Outlook 2003? Yes. I'm using the Outlook addin in Outlook 2003 on XP Pro SP1 while I type this. You should be specific about what the first of your "major problems" was. From mdegreve at DROHANMGMT.COM Mon May 17 17:37:36 2004 From: mdegreve at DROHANMGMT.COM (Michele Degreve) Date: Mon May 17 17:33:22 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Out of Office AutoReply: something for you Message-ID: <3E73FAC0ED2A1C41AA116536B0C4E5B765555B@exchange.DROHAN.LOCAL> I will be out of the country 17-31 May. I willl not be checking phone messages and will not have access to email. If you need assistance, please contact Laura Markusson at extention 4106, Robin Turner at extension 4110, Cathy Vail at extension 4120 or Laureen Rowland at extension 4100. Thank you. From sethg at GoodmanAssociates.com Mon May 17 18:11:17 2004 From: sethg at GoodmanAssociates.com (Seth Goodman) Date: Mon May 17 18:11:20 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] www.theusmat.com New Emag Blog, News, Expose, In-Reply-To: <000601c43bed$bf888660$1224bb42@leemoses> Message-ID: I am a resident of Wisconsin. Unless you want to get yourself into real legal trouble, I would avoid spamming residents of this State. It really doesn't matter what you are trying to promote and whether or not you consider it ethical. If it is unsolicited, it is spam, and people who live here will go after you for that reason alone. I suggest that you find a more responsible way to promote your company. A little common sense would also be in order. You have just publicly announced to a list of several thousand active anti-spam individuals and organizations that you are a spammer and have threatened to sue them. What do you think that does to your prospects of ever selling anything to any of them? -- Seth Goodman -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces+sethg=goodmanassociates.com@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces+sethg=goodmanassociates.com@python.org]On Behalf Of Lee J. Keslin Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 4:03 AM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] www.theusmat.com New Emag Blog, News, Expose, Notice To The Publishers of The Python anti spam website (Spambayes) which posted an anti spam notice to Search Engines about the website TheUSMat I am Lee J Keslin, the publisher of The US Mat, I do not have or own a email list or the facilities to do a mass mailing . I used an outsourcing to do a one time targeted promotion of my website to the states of Wisconsin, and Illinois, which the out source did not do.To my chagrin the outsource sent a mailing out world wide and very little to the US. However the content of the material sent out should be very clear to the recipient that it was an invitation to that area to view my website, which merchandizes nothing, no porn, no pills,no phoney pleas for money, contains no cookies, or virus (unless the outsource inserted them in which I doubt all he was was some poor smuck who thought he obtained a good mailing list and was trying to make a buck) and contains proper language. But instead offers comment which one may or may not agree with. And the latter is the basis I believe is the basis for complaints by some to disparage, and discredit, implying a faudulent activity designed to prevent this websites publication. Unless your posting is not immediately removed Further legal action is under active consideration Very Truly L.J.Keslin Publisher TheUSMat -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040517/5c9352ea/attachment.html From neel at mediapulse.com Mon May 17 18:32:36 2004 From: neel at mediapulse.com (Michael C. Neel) Date: Mon May 17 18:32:40 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Large Message Causing Crash In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677E02@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677E02@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1084833155.3866.138.camel@mike> Glad I could help. I've only been on the list a few days, but it's clear you are "the man" of the mailing list, I'm pretty impressed you keep up with the volume like you do. Isn't GvR on your developer list? Tell him to pass on some of the sweet python cash he must be rolling in to you =) On Sat, 2004-05-15 at 23:27, Tony Meyer wrote: > > Here is the traceback. The message had an 8MB attachment, > > so it's pretty big for an email. Deleting the large email > > and running again sb picked up an additional 18 spam emails, > > which it didn't get to the first time. > > Thanks, much appreciated. It is happening in a different place than the one > where the problem would be gracefully handled - I'll check in a fix that at > least lets imapfilter carry on ignoring the problem message. > > =Tony Meyer > > --- > Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies > (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This > way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040517/4eca5018/attachment.html From BBands at bollingerbands.com Mon May 17 18:47:04 2004 From: BBands at bollingerbands.com (BBands) Date: Mon May 17 18:47:50 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] home page Message-ID: <91F752158F5FD3119F51009027948069665EDB@EGRET> The first installer link on the SpamBayes home page has a typo in it. Should be 1.0rc1 not 1.0rc. --jab --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.686 / Virus Database: 447 - Release Date: 5/14/2004 From BBands at bollingerbands.com Mon May 17 18:56:20 2004 From: BBands at bollingerbands.com (BBands) Date: Mon May 17 18:57:04 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] home page Message-ID: <91F752158F5FD3119F51009027948069665EDC@EGRET> Correction: The first installer link on the SpamBayes Windows home page has a typo in it. Should be 1.0rc1 not 1.0rc. http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/windows.html --jab --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.686 / Virus Database: 447 - Release Date: 5/14/2004 From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon May 17 19:12:08 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon May 17 19:12:28 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Stop working after installing new version In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306557791@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677E20@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Here is my problem [...] I've answered this via the bug tracker. > I also have a question about the program. Does this > program need to keep the spam email after they have > been detected or can they be deleted? I don't know if > it needs to keep them for its training. You can delete them. See FAQ 3.5: =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon May 17 21:12:06 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon May 17 21:12:39 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Large Message Causing Crash In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F130655787B@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0226@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Glad I could help. I've only been on the list a > few days, but it's clear you are "the man" of the > mailing list, Well, this is probably somewhat biased by the last few days, of course. We all help out as we can, and the 'we' includes lots of other people as well. Thanks for the compliment, though :) Another thing is that I followed Mark H in the foolish footsteps of volunteering to maintain one of the binary versions (sb_server - the Outlook plug-in for him). Back when the plug-in was first released, Mark had a huge volume of mail to deal with (which he did), but it's mostly subsided now that the plug-in is quite stable. sb_server isn't quite as polished as the plug-in (yet), so I'm still at the tail of the big flood of mail. (And at a different time I decided to write sb_imapfilter, more to satisfy the requests for it than for any personal need, thinking that eventually someone would take it off my hands. Since that hasn't happened, and since the bugs have about a 75% chance of being a result of something I wrote, I feel obligated to fix those <0.3 wink>). > I'm pretty impressed you keep up with the volume > like you do. Tell that to the 118 messages still waiting to be sorted out <0.5 wink>. Some weeks are easier than others - it helps that at the moment I'm (for real work) running lots of 5ish minute tests, analysing the results, then kicking off another one. Answering an email fits easily enough into the time where I'm waiting for results. > Isn't GvR on your developer > list? Tell him to pass on some of the sweet python > cash he must be rolling in to you =) Heh. We don't publicise it much, but the whole spambayes crew are pretty much out partying on our luxury yachts every weekend anyway ;) (More seriously, I figure that if a person or two is so happy with my help here or with some code that I wrote/helped with that they make a donation (not that I expect anyone to), then that lets me off somewhat donating money to the PSF myself, which I otherwise would feel I should, since I use Python so much in real (paid) work). Well, that was a long response to a compliment, wasn't it? :P =Tony Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon May 17 21:15:58 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon May 17 21:16:22 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] home page In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306557888@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677E2D@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > The first installer link on the SpamBayes home page has a > typo in it. Should be 1.0rc1 not 1.0rc. Thanks; fixed. =Tony Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue May 18 00:18:43 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue May 18 00:18:54 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] what program can I use to open the .db file In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13065578D8@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677E33@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I am not sure how to use those scripts > On a windows computer after I download the script, how do I run it You need to also install Python: Then you open up a command window (DOS prompt, command prompt, terminal window, whatever you like to call it), and run (eg) "python sb_dbexpimp.py -h" and it will print out an explanation of how to use it. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. 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Click Here http://www.phramastore.biz/free/b/ From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue May 18 03:47:31 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue May 18 03:47:53 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Virus software and SpamBayes In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F130655776E@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C022B@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I want to contribute to the effort you guys have done and > was wondering what you guys usually see for donations. > I don't want to be cheap. Really anything at all is appreciated. Since the donations go to the PSF (the donation page explains why), none of us necessarily get any information about the donations at all. (There happen to be some developers that are bigwigs in the Python world, so they probably do or could). Which means no-one probably knows what the average or typical donation is. Pick a number, halve it, and donate that :) =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue May 18 03:55:55 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue May 18 03:56:14 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] outlook - operation failed In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13065576E6@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C022D@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > After I installed spambayes, I could not send/receive > anymore, instead I get the pop up error "This operation > failed" without anymore detail. > I have tried remove and reinstall outlook xp multiple > times (including uninstalling spambayes) but cannot remove > this error. You installed the Outlook plug-in, yes? (If not, then the rest of this is all invalid, and write back for a new reply). The plug-in doesn't touch sending or receiving mail in any way at all. All it does is ask Outlook to tell it when mail arrives in certain folders (the 'receive' is all over by then) and then classifies that mail. Have you tried Outlook's "Detect and Repair"? (Although if you've reinstalled Outlook, I'm not sure that'll help). Certainly if you've uninstalled SpamBayes then it can't possibly be doing anything (since it's no longer there). Are you sure there aren't any more details in the error? Even a cryptic looking number like 0x732847832? Have you checked it's not some sort of problem with your network/ISP? =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From NAVMSE-ARTUS at papenburg.de Tue May 18 03:58:29 2004 From: NAVMSE-ARTUS at papenburg.de (NAV for Microsoft Exchange-ARTUS) Date: Tue May 18 03:57:52 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Norton AntiVirus detected a virus in a message you sent. The inf ected attachment was deleted. Message-ID: <801404573E69D811BB3D00104B40F4E32B4C16@ARTUS> Recipient of the infected attachment: M?ller, Hans-J?rgen\Posteingang Subject of the message: Mail Delivery (failure) One or more attachments were deleted Attachment msg_hans-juergen.mueller.txt.pif was Deleted for the following reasons: Virus W32.Netsky.P@mm was found. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 1795 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040518/92fe6ea7/attachment.bin From ta-meyer at ihug.co.nz Tue May 18 04:27:24 2004 From: ta-meyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue May 18 04:27:42 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] ANNOUNCE: SpamBayes release 1.0rc1 Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C022E@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> The SpamBayes team is pleased to announce the latest release of SpamBayes - 1.0rc1. Like the last two versions, this is both a release of the source code and of an installation program for all Microsoft Windows users. The Windows installation program will install either the Outlook add-in (for Microsoft Outlook users), or the SpamBayes server program (for all other mail client users, including Microsoft Outlook Express). All Windows users (including existing users of the Outlook add-in) are encouraged to use the installation program. If you wish to use the source-code version, you will also need to install Python - see README.txt in the source tree for more information. This release fixes a number of reasonably minor bugs in the last release; however, we still highly recommend that existing users upgrade. For a detailed description of everything (well, everything we remember) that has changed since the last release, you can view our WHAT_IS_NEW.txt file, either online, or in the source distribution. Get it via the 'Download' page at http://www.spambayes.org/download.html Enjoy the new release and your spam-free mailbox :-) Thanks to everyone involved in this release, particularly, and as usual, Mark Hammond for putting most of this release together! Tony. (on behalf of the SpamBayes team) --- What is SpamBayes? --- The SpamBayes project is working on developing a Bayesian (of sorts) anti-spam filter (in Python), initially based on the work of Paul Graham. 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This message, together with any attachments, is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. It may contain information that is confidential and prohibited from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination or copying of this message or any attachment is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the original sender immediately by telephone or by return e-mail and delete this message, along with any attachments, from your computer. Thank you. From 755rdonu at pluno.com Tue May 18 17:48:34 2004 From: 755rdonu at pluno.com (Elliot Allison) Date: Tue May 18 15:53:16 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Dear Spambayes Message-ID: <41o-6dl5550eb@i19d8> Spambayes Looking to buy cheap affordable medications? We sell Xanax, Valium, Vicodin all 100% legal * No Doctors will visit you * SameDay shipping * Plus many more at super l0w pr1ces * Worldwide Sameday shipping! Click Here http://www.buycheapdrugs.biz From 288hsjyfg at juno.com Sun May 16 18:30:58 2004 From: 288hsjyfg at juno.com (Vonda Patterson) Date: Tue May 18 17:00:45 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] deuisive liverwort Message-ID: Spambayes CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP BUY XANAXx VAL1UM VICOD1N Plus many more at super l0w pr1ces http://www.phramastore.biz/free/b/ 9 m demagnify No Thanks http://www.biglakeinfo.biz/qog345/104/rf.html n sawdtpiphmjopjjvbc jt From GS3User007 at hotmail.com Tue May 18 18:46:50 2004 From: GS3User007 at hotmail.com (Ben Swan) Date: Tue May 18 18:47:01 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] a quick question Message-ID: If I've got several hundred emails in my Junk Email box, can I delete them without losing the functionality of the filter? -GS3User007@hotmail.com From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue May 18 18:57:39 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue May 18 18:57:46 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] a quick question In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306557B72@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677E43@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > If I've got several hundred emails in my Junk Email box, can > I delete them without losing the functionality of the filter? Please see FAQ 3.15: =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From victoni at sbcglobal.net Tue May 18 20:37:21 2004 From: victoni at sbcglobal.net (Vic and Toni) Date: Tue May 18 20:36:59 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] A 98se Bug? Message-ID: <000801c43d39$72f36340$0300a8c0@local> Hi, I loaded spambytes and then tried to start entering data in the interface on setting up the ports. But had a lock up and had to reset. Now could not get the spambytes to load. (Its not in task manager and the spambytes task icon will not show up on the task bar.) So at this point after uninstalling and reinstalling, still can not get the program to load. Any advise since I dop not see any feedback on this particular problem on the FAQ page. Thanks Victor --- Our outgoing email is automatically checked and cleared of any virus before being sent. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.686 / Virus Database: 447 - Release Date: 5/14/04 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040518/ce3b5f61/attachment.html From perl at rhesa.com Tue May 18 21:19:53 2004 From: perl at rhesa.com (Rhesa Rozendaal) Date: Tue May 18 21:20:07 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] ANNOUNCE: SpamBayes release 1.0rc1 In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C022E@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C022E@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <40AAB639.4090402@rhesa.com> Tony Meyer wrote: > The SpamBayes team is pleased to announce the latest release of SpamBayes - > 1.0rc1. First off, thank you very much for the new release. I just finished installing it, and it feels very good! The training web interface is a great deal more responsive, initial training of about 1000 messages was very quick, and it contains many other small improvements. I like the added statistics, and the many added advanced and experimental options. I do have two small comments though: - I was already running pop3proxy as a service, and the installer didn't want to install the new version. The reason at first was an unrecognised option in my old bayescustomize.ini in the [html_ui] section. After commenting the offending line, it just crashed. Of course I was running an older version (0.7a I think), and since this is only 1.0, no big deal. And manually removing the old service and installing the new version fixed it. [ I'm sorry to say I was so stupid to forget noting the offending option before throwing everything away, so I cannot include it here. I only remember there were two options in that section, and the offending one ended in _to, value True ] - Two of the new advanced options immediately caught my eyes: Default training for spam/ham. I always had to manually check 'discard' for those, so these looked like a real time saver. Given that I receive an average of 300 messages a day, of which ~50% is spam, and I only want to train on selected unsures, you can imagine it takes quite a bit of scrolling to find the spam section. I was hoping I could just quickly set the unsures to the correct values, and jump down to the page to press Train, but unfortunately these options are not honored. All hams still default to Ham, and all spams to Spam. [ A very small improvement for me would be a Train button at the top of the page. I trust Spambayes enough in its ham and spam judgments, so I do not need to look at those sections. In the past year, I have never had a false positive, and definitely less than 10 false negatives ] Overall, it looks like you greatly improved an already awesome product! So thank you very, very much! Rhesa Rozendaal > Tony. > (on behalf of the SpamBayes team) > From olegstarshinov at ameritech.net Wed May 19 01:47:53 2004 From: olegstarshinov at ameritech.net (Oleg Starshinov) Date: Wed May 19 01:48:07 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Is there and end to training? Message-ID: <000001c43d64$d72bc390$087ba8c0@pentium4> Hi, Is there a criteria, that will tell if the program has been fully trained? I get 1,000 e-mails a day and if I have to constantly train it, it will be just a nuisance. The page opens up too slow after I download a few hundred e-mails.. Is there an end to the training? At some point I would like to stop manually assigning ham/spam to each individual e-mail.. Thanks, Oleg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Joel Greenman statman7@earthlink.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040519/6d6a6138/attachment.html From urko.masse at telitas.nl Wed May 19 05:19:51 2004 From: urko.masse at telitas.nl (Urko Masse) Date: Wed May 19 05:20:02 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Question In-Reply-To: <000801c43d81$28403ab0$7ec58542@RJG> References: <000801c43d81$28403ab0$7ec58542@RJG> Message-ID: <40AB26B7.4000900@telitas.nl> Since most of the Spam mails have fake addresses, I think that would be a very bad idea, creating innecessary traffic, and getting no positive results. At most, if you do that, the spammer can actually confirm that your address is active, and then send you even more spam... The best advice to decrease the amount of spam you get is pretending you don't get it, so they might think your account is not active... Regards, Urko Joel Greenman wrote: > I am currently using Spambayes. Does Spambayes have any feature where > it bounces back an email to the original sender and defines it as > "undeliverable" so that they might take me off of their spam list? > Also, I have about 150 spam emails in my spam folder that Spambayes > has already identified. Can I delete all of these or do I need to > leave them in the folder? > Joel Greenman > statman7@earthlink.net From larsga at ontopia.net Wed May 19 06:11:39 2004 From: larsga at ontopia.net (Lars Marius Garshol) Date: Wed May 19 06:11:53 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Shelve database corruption? Message-ID: I recently got the problem that on some emails SpamBayes throws an exception, and the email does not get classified at all. The result is that SpamBayes catches some of my spam, but when this error happens the spam gets through, and it seems to happen for about half of the messages. I got this problem while running SpamBayes 1.0a7, and tried to solve it by upgrading to SpamBayes 1.0rc1, but that made no difference. The traceback I get is: Traceback (most recent call last): File "scripts/sb_server.py", line 472, in onRetr msg.setId(state.getNewMessageName()) File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/spambayes/message.py", line 258, in setId msginfoDB._getState(self) File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/spambayes/message.py", line 118, in _getState attributes = self.db[msg.getId()] File "/usr/lib/python2.2/shelve.py", line 70, in __getitem__ f = StringIO(self.dict[key]) error: (-30981, 'Unknown error 4294936315') What I'm looking for is some idea of what's wrong with the shelve database so that I can fix the corruption. I've trained SpamBayes on 37,000 emails, so the idea of starting again from scratch is not appealing... Help would be *much* appreciated, since I'm now back to drowning in spam again. :-( -- Lars Marius Garshol, Ontopian GSM: +47 98 21 55 50 From larsga at ontopia.net Wed May 19 06:34:02 2004 From: larsga at ontopia.net (Lars Marius Garshol) Date: Wed May 19 06:34:14 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Shelve database corruption? References: Message-ID: Slight correction. I wrote: | [...] it seems to happen for about half of the messages. It happens for all messages. The reason some spam is filtered correctly is that I also use Bogofilter. -- Lars Marius Garshol, Ontopian GSM: +47 98 21 55 50 From papaDoc at videotron.ca Wed May 19 09:08:23 2004 From: papaDoc at videotron.ca (papaDoc) Date: Wed May 19 09:08:31 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Mailing List ? In-Reply-To: <000801c43d70$2d9c3560$ed1774ce@yourkybtg65gxe> References: <000801c43d70$2d9c3560$ed1774ce@yourkybtg65gxe> Message-ID: <40AB5C47.1060903@videotron.ca> Hi Gerry, > How can I get on your mailing list ? You can go to this web site and subscribe to the mailing list you want. http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/contact.html Remi -- /"\ \ / X ASCII Ribbon Campaign / \ Against HTML Email From skip at pobox.com Wed May 19 09:11:42 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Wed May 19 09:11:34 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Is there and end to training? In-Reply-To: <000001c43d64$d72bc390$087ba8c0@pentium4> References: <000001c43d64$d72bc390$087ba8c0@pentium4> Message-ID: <16555.23822.704689.560813@montanaro.dyndns.org> Oleg> Is there a criteria, that will tell if the program has been fully Oleg> trained? I get 1,000 e-mails a day and if I have to constantly Oleg> train it, it will be just a nuisance. The page opens up too slow Oleg> after I download a few hundred e-mails.. Oleg> Is there an end to the training? At some point I would like to Oleg> stop manually assigning ham/spam to each individual e-mail.. There are two basic approaches to training: train-on-everything and train-on-mistakes. It sounds like you're doing the former. Perhaps you should try the latter. Train-on-mistakes treats outright mistakes (false positives or false negatives) and unsure messages as "mistakes". Any message which is classified correctly is not trained. Even with such training, there are some messages which should just remain unsure (at least in my opinion). Bounce messages of one sort or another can be particularly problematic, as they often have large chunks of both highly hammy and highly spammy content. I just accept the fact that those sort of messages will wind up in my unsure box. You might check out the Spambayes Wiki: http://www.entrian.com/sbwiki Click the TrainingIdeas link for more detail. Skip From skip at pobox.com Wed May 19 09:19:55 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Wed May 19 09:20:07 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Shelve database corruption? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <16555.24315.823854.377134@montanaro.dyndns.org> Lars> f = StringIO(self.dict[key]) Lars> error: (-30981, 'Unknown error 4294936315') Lars> What I'm looking for is some idea of what's wrong with the shelve Lars> database so that I can fix the corruption. I've no idea. If the underlying file is a Berkeley DB thing of some sort, you might be able to restore it to good health using the db_recover command (which you may or may not have on-hand). Whether or not that succeeds you might try running the sb_dbexpimp.py command to dump the database and reload it into a new file. Lars> I've trained SpamBayes on 37,000 emails, so the idea of starting Lars> again from scratch is not appealing... Which seems like way too much to me, but maybe that's just me. If you're having trouble properly classifying messages with that database (ignoring the corruption issue) it's likely there are some mistakes or at least questionable classifications in there which are contributing to confusion on SpamBayes part. Skip From papaDoc at videotron.ca Wed May 19 10:23:01 2004 From: papaDoc at videotron.ca (papaDoc) Date: Wed May 19 10:23:08 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Is there and end to training? In-Reply-To: <001901c43daa$28190700$087ba8c0@pentium4> References: <001901c43daa$28190700$087ba8c0@pentium4> Message-ID: <40AB6DC5.6000701@videotron.ca> Hi Oleg, I hope you are using the sb_server and/or the POP3 proxy. >I guess my question is this: >If I stop reviewing the mail, it will just pile up and what will happen >next? > Spambayes copy each message received in a cache directory and those messages are used for training. The message n days old are deleted from the cache (Usually n = 7 but this can be changed in the setting) >If I click on the icon for Spambayes, it opens up an explorer >window and wants me to process the messages. I don't want to do that >every day. > > You don't need to >I have maybe 2% ham in the explorer window. When I review the messages, >I click on the appropriate status for each message and click "train" at >the bottom. How can the ham/spam ratio be 1:1 if there is always more >spam? >There is no way to just train on ham on that page.. > > Yes, you can discard the spam and the unsure. Usually I pick only a few from this page and discard all the others. Remi -- /"\ \ / X ASCII Ribbon Campaign / \ Against HTML Email From cgroff at markssupply.net Wed May 19 10:28:26 2004 From: cgroff at markssupply.net (cgroff) Date: Wed May 19 10:29:48 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with Configuration Message-ID: <016801c43dad$8c4a1b80$6d1716ac@markssupply.com> I'm running Spambayes on a wink2 server in proxy mode for a mercury mail server. It runs fine for the most part however I'm trying to change some of the configuration settings. In particular the 2 cache yes/no options. When I hit save to save the changes I get the following error(s) 500 Server error Traceback (most recent call last): File "spambayes\Dibbler.pyc", line 461, in found_terminator File "spambayes\UserInterface.pyc", line 770, in onChangeopts File "spambayes\ProxyUI.pyc", line 731, in verifyInput File "spambayes\UserInterface.pyc", line 862, in verifyInput File "spambayes\OptionsClass.pyc", line 585, in convert File "spambayes\OptionsClass.pyc", line 266, in convert AttributeError: 'tuple' object has no attribute 'split' I've shut down the service and restarted it to see if that makes a difference but the error persists. Other then that it's a great little piece of software and I couldn't be happier with it's performance the majority of the time. Thanks Chris Groff -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040519/cb729fd6/attachment.html From larsga at ontopia.net Wed May 19 10:47:32 2004 From: larsga at ontopia.net (Lars Marius Garshol) Date: Wed May 19 10:47:45 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Shelve database corruption? In-Reply-To: <16555.24315.823854.377134@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <16555.24315.823854.377134@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: * Lars Marius Garshol | | f = StringIO(self.dict[key]) | error: (-30981, 'Unknown error 4294936315') | | What I'm looking for is some idea of what's wrong with the shelve | database so that I can fix the corruption. * Skip Montanaro | | I've no idea. If the underlying file is a Berkeley DB thing of some | sort, I've just installed and used the POP3 proxy on Linux without doing anything special at all. This is what I've been able to find out: [root@pavarotti spambayes-1.0rc1]# file hammie.db hammie.db: Berkeley DB (Hash, version 7, native byte-order) [root@pavarotti spambayes-1.0rc1]# python utilities/which_database.py Pickle is available. Dumbdbm is available. Dbhash is available. Bsddb[3] is available. Your storage /usr/home/larsga/tmp/spambayes-1.0rc1/hammie.db is a: dbhash | you might be able to restore it to good health using the db_recover | command (which you may or may not have on-hand). I've got db_recover, and ran it to find out what it does, but it doesn't appear to do anything. I found the documentation for it, which talks about log files, but I don't appear to have any. Not sure whether this means I don't have the right sort of Berkeley DB or whether it means that the log files are somewhere else. | Whether or not that succeeds you might try running the | sb_dbexpimp.py command to dump the database and reload it into a new | file. That seemed to work. I managed to export hammie.db to a CSV file, but for whatever reason I can't import it to a new hammie.db: [root@pavarotti spambayes-1.0rc1]# sb_dbexpimp.py -i -d hammie.db -f hammie.db.export Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/sb_dbexpimp.py", line 266, in ? runImport(dbFN, useDBM, newDBM, flatFN) File "/usr/bin/sb_dbexpimp.py", line 183, in runImport (nham, nspam) = rdr.next() File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/spambayes/compatcsv.py", line 23, in next return self.parse_line(self.fp.next()) AttributeError: 'file' object has no attribute 'next' >From the traceback this seems like it can't read the CSV file (which looks fine in "less"), but that seems really bizarre. Any ideas? I'm using Python 2.2.2; could this be a compatibility thing? I see that the code uses compatcsv.py, creates a "reader" object, passing it a file handle (as returned by "open"), but the reader then calls "next" on it, which it obviously does not support. As far as I can tell, in Python 2.2.2 file objects don't have a next() method. It would appear, though, that readline() would do the same thing. Changing that made it run a bit further, but I still got problems: [root@pavarotti spambayes-1.0rc1]# sb_dbexpimp.py -i -d hammie.db -f hammie.db.export parse error: 2 Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/sb_dbexpimp.py", line 266, in ? runImport(dbFN, useDBM, newDBM, flatFN) File "/usr/bin/sb_dbexpimp.py", line 183, in runImport (nham, nspam) = rdr.next() File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/spambayes/compatcsv.py", line 23, in next return self.parse_line(self.fp.readline()) File "/usr/bin/sb_dbexpimp.py", line 170, in runImport os.unlink(dbFN+".dir") OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'hammie.db.dir' I've no idea why it would want to delete this file. As far as I know it's never existed. What's even more interesting is that there's a try/except block catching OSError here, so we shouldn't be seeing this traceback at all. Removing OSError so it catches all exceptions has no effect. Removing the whole try/except plus the unlink call makes the block above deleting the .dat file throw an OSError!?! Removing all three unlink calls gives an ImportError on the csv module, so something appears to be rethrowing the last exception, and probably that's always the last one that's been caught, and not really the true cause of the problem at all. Seems like it might be line 59 in compatcsv.py that does this. Apparently it's unhappy with hammie.db.export, so apparently sb_dbexpimp.py produces CSV files that it can't read back in again. I discovered that line 66 of compatcsv.py has a bug that means it's never worked: line = line[len(field)+len(match.group(2))] should be: line = line[len(field)+len(match.group(2)):] Then I got into trouble with compatcsv.py assuming the file was UTF-8, and I haven't been able to fiddle more with it. It does look like this code doesn't run on Python 2.2 at all. I'll have to consider installing 2.3 or spending more time on fixing it. * Lars Marius Garshol | | I've trained SpamBayes on 37,000 emails, so the idea of starting | again from scratch is not appealing... * Skip Montanaro | | Which seems like way too much to me, but maybe that's just me. If | you're having trouble properly classifying messages with that | database (ignoring the corruption issue) it's likely there are some | mistakes or at least questionable classifications in there which are | contributing to confusion on SpamBayes part. Classification was working perfectly before the corruption, actually. I get several hundred spam every day, but nothing comes through, except maybe 10-15 unsure emails every week. As far as I can tell there are no false positives, and I've checked pretty carefully. So if only I can solve this corruption problem I'll be a very happy user again. Anyway, thanks a lot for the help so far. I feel I'm at least one step closer now. -- Lars Marius Garshol, Ontopian GSM: +47 98 21 55 50 From rstamboly at safenet-inc.com Wed May 19 11:52:07 2004 From: rstamboly at safenet-inc.com (Ron Stamboly) Date: Wed May 19 11:51:49 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Possible bug??? Message-ID: <4516D26F7B3DD611BD310002A507C88B041C65D6@MAX> HI, I have read all the on-line documentation (including FAQ) and think I have run into a bug with the latest version for windows. I am running WinXP, Outlook 2003 (All Patched to latest revs.) and just upgraded to SpamBayes 1.0rc1 In the previous version of SpamBayes 1.0b1, when I deleted an email with the button Delete as Spam, it would automatically move it to the junk email. Now in this version, when I delete as spam, the message does not move until I click on the next message, or actually just click anywhere. The message will not move itself. All setting are the same as before. (pretty much all defaults, as I have not changed anything.) I believe this might be a bug, but if something has changed in this version and I need to change something, please let me know....thanks for the help and keep up the great work. This program is really very good Ron Ron Stamboly Sr. System Engineer SafeNet, Inc. 101 Hudson St. Suite 3710 Jersey City, NJ 07302 (201)-333-3400 x121 rstamboly@safenet-inc.com www.safenet-inc.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 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Not sure > whether this means I don't have the right sort of Berkeley DB or > whether it means that the log files are somewhere else. Unfortunately, neither. The spambayes code uses a "simplifying layer" on top of native Berkeley. Part of what it "simplifies away" is everything (like log files!) needed to perform recovery when bsddb manages to get itself corrupted. This isn't good: when a spambayes Berkeley db gets corrupted, there's no cure. OTOH, if we rewrote to the native Berkeley API, that would introduce problems too, like creating the need for new maintenance procedures to delete old Berkeley log files. db_recover and friends don't ship with Python on Windows either. With the benefit of a year of hindsight, Berkeley DB was a poor choice for this project. Partly because it has a few problems, but mostly because nobody has shown up with both the time and Berkeley Fu needed to repair the specific problems we see. From skip at pobox.com Wed May 19 14:40:28 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Wed May 19 14:40:18 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Shelve database corruption? In-Reply-To: References: <16555.24315.823854.377134@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <16555.43548.333614.737002@montanaro.dyndns.org> Lars> I'm using Python 2.2.2; could this be a compatibility thing? Sure could be. I wrote the compatcsv.py code. I don't know how much testing it's gotten beyond what I gave it. My main goal was to allow Python 2.2 users to use sb_dbexpimp.py after switching the storage format to csv. There were deficiencies in the encoding scheme sb_dbexpimp.py used before. Lars> As far as I can tell, in Python 2.2.2 file objects don't have a Lars> next() method. That may well be an issue. Most/all of my testing was done by forcing use of compatcsv.py even when csv was available. I typically use Python from CVS (aka 2.4a0 at the moment), so I would not have had 2.2-style file objects. Lars> Changing that made it run a bit further, but I still got problems: Lars> [root@pavarotti spambayes-1.0rc1]# sb_dbexpimp.py -i -d hammie.db -f hammie.db.export Lars> parse error: 2 Lars> Traceback (most recent call last): Lars> File "/usr/bin/sb_dbexpimp.py", line 266, in ? Lars> runImport(dbFN, useDBM, newDBM, flatFN) Lars> File "/usr/bin/sb_dbexpimp.py", line 183, in runImport Lars> (nham, nspam) = rdr.next() Lars> File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/spambayes/compatcsv.py", line 23, in next Lars> return self.parse_line(self.fp.readline()) Lars> File "/usr/bin/sb_dbexpimp.py", line 170, in runImport Lars> os.unlink(dbFN+".dir") Lars> OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'hammie.db.dir' That's probably a holdover from some previous incarnation where .dir files were getting created (possibly in an environment with dbm or gdbm instead of bsddb as the usual database file format). Lars> Removing OSError so it catches all exceptions has no Lars> effect. Removing the whole try/except plus the unlink call makes Lars> the block above deleting the .dat file throw an OSError!?! The .dir/.dat thing really smells like dbm files to me. Lars> Apparently it's unhappy with hammie.db.export, so apparently Lars> sb_dbexpimp.py produces CSV files that it can't read back in Lars> again. I discovered that line 66 of compatcsv.py has a bug that means Lars> it's never worked: Lars> line = line[len(field)+len(match.group(2))] Lars> should be: Lars> line = line[len(field)+len(match.group(2)):] I'll take a look at this. Can you submit a bug report on SF and assign it to me (montanaro)? Lars> Then I got into trouble with compatcsv.py assuming the file was Lars> UTF-8, and I haven't been able to fiddle more with it. It does Lars> look like this code doesn't run on Python 2.2 at all. I'll have to Lars> consider installing 2.3 or spending more time on fixing it. Assuming you have a C compiler you should be able to just snatch the csv.py and _csv.c files from a 2.3 installation and compile them against your Python 2.2 build environment. The goal all along was that the code in _csv.c should work with 2.2. Skip From info at internships4you.net Wed May 19 16:45:38 2004 From: info at internships4you.net (internships4you.net) Date: Wed May 19 16:45:48 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Internships4you Follow-up from CEO Message-ID: As a non-profit, you may not have received our previous message about posting your internship, volunteer, or co-op opportunity on our website, Internships4you.com, free of charge. As a reminder, Internships4You.com is a new, unique intern recruitment site with college and university career center contacts worldwide. If you are a non-profit and would like to post your internship openings on our site, please go to http://www.internships4you.com/employers/register.php4 and fill out the registration form. 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That exception not being caught, even when it was a bare "except:" is very suspicious. Skip, when you've checked in whatever you're planning on checking in, I'll do some tests here too with 2.2. Maybe I'll even get energetic and write some unit tests ;) =Tony Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed May 19 19:01:04 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed May 19 19:01:11 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: [spambayes-dev] SpamBayes at message-set boundary In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13066BF66C@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0230@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> [Please note that the spambayes-dev mailing list is for discussion about the development of spambayes, not for bug reports or requests for help. Those should either be directed to the spambayes@python.org mailing list, or entered via the sourceforge system at . See for more details.] > Over several months of use, SpamBayes never filters > out the spam message that's most recent of current > harvest of messages, forcing explicit DeleteAsSpam to remove. It's quite unclear what you mean here. Could you please: * Tell us which SpamBayes application you are using. It sounds like the Outlook plug-in, but we need to know for sure. * Tell us which version of SpamBayes you are using. If it's not the latest (1.0rc1), then please try the latest, as the problem you are reporting may have already been fixed. * Work through the steps in the Troubleshooting guide. You can get this online or a copy should be accessible via SpamBayes->Help->Troubleshooting Guide. Note that the final step in the guide is including your log file in any bug report. This is essential for us to figure out what is happening. * Explain what you mean by "current harvest of messages". Do you just mean a set of messages downloaded when you instruct your mailer to check for new mail? * What do you mean by "never filters out"? Do you mean that the message isn't scored? Scores over the threshold but doesn't move? Raises an error? * What do you mean by "Over several months of use"? Do you mean that this has been happening for several months (which strongly hints that you're not using the most recent version), or that this has just started happening after successfully working for several months? =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From bbertram at mts.net Wed May 19 19:24:51 2004 From: bbertram at mts.net (Brent Bertram) Date: Wed May 19 19:24:46 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Bayes use in a corporation Message-ID: <000801c43df8$7c932ba0$183ecad1@bb> I work in a corporation with 5000 PC's and I was checking out your Anti-Spam software, SpamBayes. I like it. I noticed it was free. I don't propose to use it on all of our PC's just 50 or so PCs, the IT staff only. For us to use it would we need to pay you at all? Is there special treatment for corporation or are we treated the same as a normal single user? I provided a link to the IT staff and a few bit my head of, they are partial to IHateSpam and a few are concerned legally. So far its just talk and no one has used it on their corporate PC. I'm curious what you take is on this? Thanks for the help. PS: Can you please e-mail your reponse to bbertram@hydro.mb.ca as well? Thanks again. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040519/601772ef/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed May 19 19:52:26 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed May 19 19:52:35 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Bayes use in a corporation In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13066BF67E@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0231@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I work in a corporation with 5000 PC's and I was > checking out your Anti-Spam software, SpamBayes. > I like it. I noticed it was free. I don't propose > to use it on all of our PC's just 50 or so PCs, the > IT staff only. For us to use it would we need to pay > you at all? Is there special treatment for corporation > or are we treated the same as a normal single user? One user or 5 million users, it's all the same to us (i.e. there is no charge). You can read the license (or forward it to those concerned) if you like, which says the same thing, but in many more words . (You can even repackage it and sell it yourself if you like - it's very unrestrictive). (A copy of this is included with the source archive, and probably ought to be with the binaries. I'll look into that). > I provided a link to the IT staff and a few bit my head of, > they are partial to IHateSpam and a few are concerned legally. Legally (in terms of using the software, anyway) there are no worries at all (although you don't gain any rights to sue us if something goes wrong, which maybe you can do with commercial software in the US, I don't know). I know almost nothing about IHateSpam, but if I understand correctly, it's basically just whitelisting, yes? (i.e. it filters out mail from people you don't know). This is a fairly weak approach, but popular :) SpamBayes doesn't have any whitelisting (the very long story is in the FAQ), but if you really wanted it you can purchase InBoxer which is a spambayes-based product (one of the initial developers did the repackage-and-sell things as above) that does have a few extra things like whitelisting. In any case, if you're doing client-side filtering, letting them all use their own shouldn't be a problem. =Tony Meyer From tim.one at comcast.net Wed May 19 20:05:31 2004 From: tim.one at comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Wed May 19 20:05:41 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Bayes use in a corporation In-Reply-To: <000801c43df8$7c932ba0$183ecad1@bb> Message-ID: [Brent Bertram] > I work in a corporation with 5000 PC's and I was checking out your Anti- > Spam software, SpamBayes. I like it. I noticed it was free. I don't > propose to use it on all of our PC's just 50 or so PCs, the IT staff > only. For us to use it would we need to pay you at all? No matter how many PCs you use it on, it remains free. The full source code is also available for free, if, for example, you'd like to customize it, or eyeball it for security holes, or ... > Is there special treatment for corporation or are we treated the same > as a normal single user? Also the same as an abnormal single user . > I provided a link to the IT staff and a few bit my head of, they are > partial to IHateSpam Since we don't make a penny off SpamBayes, we have no stake in whether people use it. It's *nice* to see our work get used, and some users contribute back (code, docs, help answering questions) to the project to make it better, but beyond that ... yawn. > and a few are concerned legally. Concerned about what? This is explicitly licensed software, same as anything they buy, except that the license is extraordinarily (compared to what they're used to) permissive. It's pretty standard for an Open Source license, though. > So far its just talk and no one has used it on their corporate PC. I'm > curious what you take is on this? It's free whether you use it or not. Suit yourself. A sane evaluation would measure its performance objectively against alternatives, place dollar values on error rates, and compute expected net gain (or loss) for each alternative. I don't have any take on insane evaluations . From skip at pobox.com Wed May 19 21:42:38 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Wed May 19 21:42:20 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Shelve database corruption? In-Reply-To: References: <16555.24315.823854.377134@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <16556.3342.567375.820477@montanaro.dyndns.org> Lars, Can you craft a small CSV file which fails to read using compatcsv.py using the file you can't read successfully and send it to me? Thanks, Skip From neel at mediapulse.com Wed May 19 22:04:56 2004 From: neel at mediapulse.com (Michael C. Neel) Date: Wed May 19 22:05:03 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Bayes use in a corporation References: <000801c43df8$7c932ba0$183ecad1@bb> Message-ID: <003601c43e0e$d8e8b490$0400a8c0@CLAPTON> Hi Brent, As said SpamBayes is under an OpenSource license. There is no money involed, but there is one simple rule it all boils down to: You can take it, use it, sell it, give it away, and even change it - but when you change it you have to make those changes available to anyone who wants them. Posting the to the list or sending them in as a patch would be enough. Read up on the downsides of whitelisting and blacklisting so you are ready to show why a bayes filter is better. Then the reason SpamBayes works better than the others is most Bayes filters use two "buckets" - good and bad; spambayes uses 3 - good bad and unknown. This helps because Dr Bayes's filter never expected the data to try and fool him, i.e. spam acting like ham. And last thing I'll add is my own personal results. I have two account filtered with spambayes, one gets about 20 hams a day and 400 spams, the other gets maybe 5 hams a week and 30 spams a day. With spambayes trained on a set of ~100 spam and ~100 ham for each account, I see maybe 5 suspects a day for both accounts combined. After a few weeks there are no more mislabeled spams as hams and vice versa (these are rare to start with). No other spam tool I know of is this good. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Brent Bertram To: spambayes@python.org Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 7:24 PM Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Bayes use in a corporation I work in a corporation with 5000 PC's and I was checking out your Anti-Spam software, SpamBayes. I like it. I noticed it was free. I don't propose to use it on all of our PC's just 50 or so PCs, the IT staff only. For us to use it would we need to pay you at all? Is there special treatment for corporation or are we treated the same as a normal single user? I provided a link to the IT staff and a few bit my head of, they are partial to IHateSpam and a few are concerned legally. So far its just talk and no one has used it on their corporate PC. I'm curious what you take is on this? Thanks for the help. PS: Can you please e-mail your reponse to bbertram@hydro.mb.ca as well? Thanks again. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040519/70b206a1/attachment.html From billy.lo at rogers.com Wed May 19 22:47:10 2004 From: billy.lo at rogers.com (Billy Lo) Date: Wed May 19 22:46:51 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Hi I hit the Delete As Spam button, but got no response. Message-ID: <000001c43e14$bfe54c00$6401a8c0@billy1mjkc6afc> Thanks for reading my question. I follow the instruction by uninstall and reinstall the program..delete the tool bar and restart outlook 2002. None of these work. Will you please tell me what should I do to make the program work. Thank you so much for your help Bill -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040519/1acea081/attachment-0001.html From tim.one at comcast.net Wed May 19 22:53:16 2004 From: tim.one at comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Wed May 19 22:53:27 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Bayes use in a corporation In-Reply-To: <003601c43e0e$d8e8b490$0400a8c0@CLAPTON> Message-ID: [Michael C. Neel] > As said SpamBayes is under an OpenSource license. There is no money > involed, but there is one simple rule it all boils down to: You can > take it, use it, sell it, give it away, and even change it - but when > you change it you have to make those changes available to anyone who > wants them. Posting the to the list or sending them in as a patch > would be enough. The PSF license SpamBayes is released under does not require that. People are free to build proprietary ("closed source") software incorporating any or all of the SpamBayes code, and keep their changes secret, if that's what they want (they won't really be doing themselves or their users a favor by keeping their code secret, but it takes experience rather than arguments to understand why that's so). The PSF license does require that derivative works include "a brief summary of the changes made" to the SpamBayes code they incorporate, but "brief summary" means what says. For example, "replaced classifier.py's probability calculations with a secret algorithm" is good enough (if that's what they did). Requiring derivative works to be released under a particular kind of license is a feature of *some* open source licenses, most notably the GPL. But it's not part of the definition of Open Source as promulgated by the Open Source Initiative, and the PSF and GPL licenses are both certified as Open Source by the OSI: http://www.opensource.org/ > Read up on the downsides of whitelisting and blacklisting so you are > ready to show why a bayes filter is better. Then the reason SpamBayes > works better than the others is most Bayes filters use two "buckets" - > good and bad; spambayes uses 3 - good bad and unknown. This helps > because Dr Bayes's filter never expected the data to try and fool him, > i.e. spam acting like ham. Or vice versa. Some messages are plain ambiguous, and require human judgment to classify correctly. I'm still delighted at how well SpamBayes usually manages to isolate those. > And last thing I'll add is my own personal results. I have two account > filtered with spambayes, one gets about 20 hams a day and 400 spams, > the other gets maybe 5 hams a week and 30 spams a day. With spambayes > trained on a set of ~100 spam and ~100 ham for each account, I see > maybe 5 suspects a day for both accounts combined. After a few weeks > there are no more mislabeled spams as hams and vice versa (these are > rare to start with). No other spam tool I know of is this good. I see you took the advice to keep training data balanced to heart. Good for you! It really does work best that way, and we still don't have a good approach to living with badly unbalanced training data. Then again, nobody pays me to think about that either . From bbertram at mts.net Thu May 20 00:15:39 2004 From: bbertram at mts.net (Brent Bertram) Date: Thu May 20 00:15:34 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Bayes use in a corporation References: <20040520025322.LIHB1292.mx-mtain02.mts.net@sccrmhc11.comcast.net> Message-ID: <001101c43e21$1cb4f280$183ecad1@bb> Thank you everyone for the great news and information. Everyone was worried it would spread through the corporation and we would not be licensed for all the copies. I told them not to be concerned but they had FREEWARE stuck on their minds and told me to do my research. So I went straight to the source for the info, you guys. Its all good now, thanks again. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Peters" To: "'Michael C. Neel'" ; "'Brent Bertram'" ; Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 9:53 PM Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Spam Bayes use in a corporation > [Michael C. Neel] > > As said SpamBayes is under an OpenSource license. There is no money > > involed, but there is one simple rule it all boils down to: You can > > take it, use it, sell it, give it away, and even change it - but when > > you change it you have to make those changes available to anyone who > > wants them. Posting the to the list or sending them in as a patch > > would be enough. > > The PSF license SpamBayes is released under does not require that. People > are free to build proprietary ("closed source") software incorporating any > or all of the SpamBayes code, and keep their changes secret, if that's what > they want (they won't really be doing themselves or their users a favor by > keeping their code secret, but it takes experience rather than arguments to > understand why that's so). The PSF license does require that derivative > works include "a brief summary of the changes made" to the SpamBayes code > they incorporate, but "brief summary" means what says. For example, > "replaced classifier.py's probability calculations with a secret algorithm" > is good enough (if that's what they did). > > Requiring derivative works to be released under a particular kind of license > is a feature of *some* open source licenses, most notably the GPL. But it's > not part of the definition of Open Source as promulgated by the Open Source > Initiative, and the PSF and GPL licenses are both certified as Open Source > by the OSI: > > http://www.opensource.org/ > > > Read up on the downsides of whitelisting and blacklisting so you are > > ready to show why a bayes filter is better. Then the reason SpamBayes > > works better than the others is most Bayes filters use two "buckets" - > > good and bad; spambayes uses 3 - good bad and unknown. This helps > > because Dr Bayes's filter never expected the data to try and fool him, > > i.e. spam acting like ham. > > Or vice versa. Some messages are plain ambiguous, and require human > judgment to classify correctly. I'm still delighted at how well SpamBayes > usually manages to isolate those. > > > And last thing I'll add is my own personal results. I have two account > > filtered with spambayes, one gets about 20 hams a day and 400 spams, > > the other gets maybe 5 hams a week and 30 spams a day. With spambayes > > trained on a set of ~100 spam and ~100 ham for each account, I see > > maybe 5 suspects a day for both accounts combined. After a few weeks > > there are no more mislabeled spams as hams and vice versa (these are > > rare to start with). No other spam tool I know of is this good. > > I see you took the advice to keep training data balanced to heart. Good for > you! It really does work best that way, and we still don't have a good > approach to living with badly unbalanced training data. Then again, nobody > pays me to think about that either . > > > From rmalayter at bai.org Thu May 20 00:55:45 2004 From: rmalayter at bai.org (Ryan Malayter) Date: Thu May 20 00:55:51 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Bayes use in a corporation Message-ID: <792DE28E91F6EA42B4663AE761C41C2A0250F6F4@cliff.bai.org> [Tony Meyer] > I know almost nothing about IHateSpam, but if I understand > correctly, it's basically just white listing, yes? (i.e. it > filters out mail from people you don't know). This is a > fairly weak approach, but popular :) Actually, we use iHateSpam for Exchange Server because it enables server-side filtering on Exchange without the use of any client-side software. The performance is pretty good, too, for a non-statistical filter (about 94% at our site.) iHateSpam Server uses white listing (it picks up your Exchange address book and your contacts folder) plus a scoring system for different tokens (probably derived statistically from some pubic corpus). They up date their "spam definitions" frequently. Anyway, the reason we picked iHateSpam Server over SpamBayes (and every other commercial filter, Bayesian or otherwise) is the user interface: three mail folders are created in each users inbox, one for spam, one for a white list, and one for a blacklist. With this setup and everything happening server-side, you can manage the filter from any mail client (Outlook, OWA, or some random IMAP client). Of course, I use SpamBayes on my own mailbox, and performance is better. But you cannot beat the manageability of an integrated server-side product like iHateSpam SE. For a long time I've wondered how I could adapt the SpamBayes code base to work with Exchange server-side, but it seems like too big a project for me as an individual or even with the other developers at my company. I wouldn't know where to start. If any bigger and better group of coders out there would like to tackle such a SB-Exchange Server project, please let me know and I'll help as much as possible, with my time and maybe even organizational dollars. Regards, Ryan From rajeshree19 at yahoo.co.in Thu May 20 01:39:15 2004 From: rajeshree19 at yahoo.co.in (raj k) Date: Thu May 20 01:45:58 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] problem with installation Message-ID: <000801c43e2e$27b8b290$1464a8c0@it.com> Hello, i am trying to install spambayes, but the problem is its not getting properly installed with outlook express I have installed python,also the windows win32 exe files but still those toolbars items don't appear in Outlook express. (it works with Microsoft Outlook.) I just wanted to know wether its compatible with Outlook Express or not if yes what else do i need to download your website also does not clearly mention the compatibility with Outlook Express. With Regards Rajeshree -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040520/516e9547/attachment.html From fw793ge at disney.com Thu May 20 04:54:50 2004 From: fw793ge at disney.com (Rick Cuevas) Date: Thu May 20 03:51:28 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Your meds are ready for pickup Message-ID: Spambayes Looking to buy cheap affordable medications? We sell Xanax, Valium, Vicodin all 100% legal * No Doctors will visit you * SameDay shipping * Plus many more at super l0w pr1ces * Worldwide Sameday shipping! Click Here http://www.buycheapdrugs.biz From larsga at ontopia.net Thu May 20 06:14:45 2004 From: larsga at ontopia.net (Lars Marius Garshol) Date: Thu May 20 06:15:00 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Shelve database corruption? In-Reply-To: <16556.3342.567375.820477@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <16555.24315.823854.377134@montanaro.dyndns.org> <16556.3342.567375.820477@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: * Skip Montanaro | | Can you craft a small CSV file which fails to read using | compatcsv.py using the file you can't read successfully and send it | to me? That's easy: 1111,2222 Fixing line 66 solves that. -- Lars Marius Garshol, Ontopian GSM: +47 98 21 55 50 From larsga at ontopia.net Thu May 20 06:16:55 2004 From: larsga at ontopia.net (Lars Marius Garshol) Date: Thu May 20 06:17:08 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Shelve database corruption? In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C022F@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C022F@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: * Tony Meyer | | From memory, .dir and .dat files are created with dumbdbm, so | that'll be why they're there. Since we don't allow use of dumbdbm | anymore, we could take that code out of sb_dbexpimp.py, but it | really shouldn't be doing any harm since the OSError should be | caught. That exception not being caught, even when it was a bare | "except:" is very suspicious. That's not the problem; the problem is the line that reads raise in compatcsv.py. It just does a raise, but not in response to any recent exception, and so it rethrows the last exception, even though it's one that occurred a long time ago and was caught and ignored. So what we should do is get rid of the bare raise statements. Making them raise strings or something would be far better. -- Lars Marius Garshol, Ontopian GSM: +47 98 21 55 50 From neel at mediapulse.com Thu May 20 08:06:38 2004 From: neel at mediapulse.com (Michael C. Neel) Date: Thu May 20 08:06:49 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Bayes use in a corporation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1085054798.16593.12.camel@mike.mediapulse.com> > The PSF license SpamBayes is released under does not require that. I should have taken a moment to see which license was used before posting =p. I really don't get into all the variations that exist, to me there are two types of opensource licenses, GNU and BSD, and SpamBayes falls under the BSD. Brent, you should be able to shed off any license worries here, you won't be required to do much of anything except have a spam free inbox, lol. Mike -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I really don't get into all the variations that exist, to me there are two types of opensource licenses, GNU and BSD, and SpamBayes falls under the BSD. Brent, you should be able to shed off any license worries here, you won't be required to do much of anything except have a spam free inbox, lol. Mike -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040520/c93036f1/attachment.html From neel at mediapulse.com Thu May 20 08:39:24 2004 From: neel at mediapulse.com (Michael C. Neel) Date: Thu May 20 08:39:29 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Bayes use in a corporation In-Reply-To: <003401c43e65$29f02700$183ecad1@bb> References: <1085054798.16593.12.camel@mike.mediapulse.com> <003401c43e65$29f02700$183ecad1@bb> Message-ID: <1085056764.16593.18.camel@mike.mediapulse.com> In the opensource world, who you are means nothing. Check out the link Tim pointed out, www.opensource.org and read the open source definition, which defines what a license must do and not do to be open source, and you'll also find a list (with the psl included) of one's that meet this list. And then, if you guys are that big you've probably got a legal dept, so take one of those guys out to lunch and ask him to look at it (it's only a page or two), and see what he thinks. Mike On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 08:22, Brent Bertram wrote: > ? > Just want to remind everyone that we are a corporation, our software > person says being a corporation changes things. What is your > experience with Open Source and Corporations? I think they have their > mind stuck on Freeware. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Michael C. Neel > To: Tim Peters > Cc: 'Brent Bertram' ; spambayes@python.org > Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 7:06 AM > Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Spam Bayes use in a corporation > > > > The PSF license SpamBayes is released under does not require that. > > > I should have taken a moment to see which license was used > before posting =p. I really don't get into all the variations > that exist, to me there are two types of opensource licenses, > GNU and BSD, and SpamBayes falls under the BSD. Brent, you > should be able to shed off any license worries here, you won't > be required to do much of anything except have a spam free > inbox, lol. > > Mike __________________________________ michael.neel@mediapulse.com vice president of information systems 865.675.4455 x30 800.380.4514 www.mediapulse.com __________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If so we can begin to think about solving the Unicode decoding problems (maybe by just blindly trying a few more more encodings). Thanks, Skip -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: expimp.diff Type: application/octet-stream Size: 2881 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040520/2b09a74a/expimp-0001.obj From alert at patriotmcs.net Thu May 20 10:09:05 2004 From: alert at patriotmcs.net (alert@patriotmcs.net) Date: Thu May 20 10:09:15 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Symantec AVF detected an unrepairable virus in a message you sent Message-ID: <003701c43e74$02dddf40$103da8c0@PMCS.local> Subject of the message: Delivery (tpelikan@patriotmcs.net) Recipient of the message: Timothy Pelikan From skip at pobox.com Thu May 20 10:11:21 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Thu May 20 10:10:42 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Shelve database corruption? In-Reply-To: References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C022F@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <16556.48265.191595.791807@montanaro.dyndns.org> Lars> That's not the problem; the problem is the line that reads Lars> raise Yeah, that does look a bit suspect. :-( I'm not sure what I was thinking when I wrote that. Probably I typed r-a-i-s-e then got called for dinner or something. Try changing it to raise ValueError, "invalid csv line: %s" % repr(line) Skip From tim.one at comcast.net Thu May 20 11:28:38 2004 From: tim.one at comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Thu May 20 11:28:51 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Bayes use in a corporation In-Reply-To: <003401c43e65$29f02700$183ecad1@bb> Message-ID: [Brent Bertram] > Just want to remind everyone that we are a corporation, Right, that was clear from the start. > our software person says being a corporation changes things. Is this a person you listen to often ? If you need competent answers to legal questions, you need to pay lawyers. > What is your experience with Open Source and Corporations? Companies that understand Open Source are in a minority, but profit from it. Companies that use Python (which SpamBayes is coded in, and which is also released under the PSF license) include Google and Industrial Light & Magic. Hewlett-Packard ships Python on their new PCs, and Mac OS X also comes with Python installed. Hundreds of companies use Python, none of them paid the PSF a penny for it (although many donate to the PSF), and none of them have any special arrangement with the Python Software Foundation -- the PSF license explicitly gives them the rights to use Python, and that's the only contract they have with the PSF. Since the PSF is the copyright holder, that's the only contract they need, too. The PSF license is also the only contract you'll have. At this point you need to read the license, and/or get it reviewed by corporate counsel. I advise against asking your "software person" more about this -- you need a "legal person" to resolve legal issues. > I think they have their mind stuck on Freeware. Well, something is confused here. I'm not clear on what Freeware means to you, or to whoever it is we're talking about indirectly here. No Open Source license can discriminate against corporations (read the definition at the OSI site I pointed you at last time). All Open Source licenses allow anyone to use the licensed software without charge, and to modify the licensed software however they like for their own use; the main point on which they may differ is in restrictions imposed on distributing derived works. In a nutshell, the GPL requires that derived works be distributed under a license "similar to" the GPL; the PSF license does not; but this distinction is irrelevant to you unless you intend to distribute derived works. From bryon at densley.com Thu May 20 11:50:24 2004 From: bryon at densley.com (Bryon) Date: Thu May 20 11:49:01 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Login Issues Message-ID: <000d01c43e82$2cd98520$9b2e14ac@slcpc03727> Windows XP, 0.6 SpamBayes, No log files that I know of. I was configuring the software, it was working fine. I changed the Username and password, I wanted to test out the encryption for the webadmin and ever since I have not been able to get back in. I know what I changed it too and that isn't working and neither is admin:admin. My browser did seem to hang in the middle of the save and I had to close it. That is when I opened it up and cannot get logged in. Thoughts? I tried just uninstalling the program and re installing, but it is holding that setting. Thanks, Bryon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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That is when I opened it up and cannot get logged in. Thoughts? I tried just uninstalling the program and re installing, but it is holding that setting. Thanks, Bryon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040520/e9783d8c/attachment.html From ledward9 at tampabay.rr.com Thu May 20 12:22:58 2004 From: ledward9 at tampabay.rr.com (Lawson ) Date: Thu May 20 12:23:01 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] how to prperly download Message-ID: <000001c43e86$b7647390$70051c18@lawsonwaq1yxxq> I attempted to download your product and was given a screen telling me to disable my anti virus (which I do not know how to do) I followed through the process to install and was told this was indeed installed and in my add remove programs there it was showing proper install. However I never had an icon or tool bar to allow me to access the product and use the product all I had was an install icon that every time I clicked it, it would attempt another install??? So I removed your product but I truly wish to have your product as I was told my someone that It works very well. HELP?? ledward9@tampabay.rr.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040520/30e3f359/attachment.html From bbertram at mts.net Thu May 20 13:12:40 2004 From: bbertram at mts.net (Brent Bertram) Date: Thu May 20 13:12:34 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Bayes use in a corporation References: <20040520152845.ZLBS1288.mx-mtain01.mts.net@rwcrmhc12.comcast.net> Message-ID: <003c01c43e8d$a8b8f120$183ecad1@bb> Its all good now guys, thanks for the help. Now they are telling me its not corporate standard software so its a no no. They don't think outside the box. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Peters" To: "'Brent Bertram'" ; "'Michael C. Neel'" ; "'Bertram, Brent'" Cc: Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 10:28 AM Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Spam Bayes use in a corporation > [Brent Bertram] > > Just want to remind everyone that we are a corporation, > > Right, that was clear from the start. > > > our software person says being a corporation changes things. > > Is this a person you listen to often ? If you need competent answers > to legal questions, you need to pay lawyers. > > > What is your experience with Open Source and Corporations? > > Companies that understand Open Source are in a minority, but profit from it. > Companies that use Python (which SpamBayes is coded in, and which is also > released under the PSF license) include Google and Industrial Light & Magic. > Hewlett-Packard ships Python on their new PCs, and Mac OS X also comes with > Python installed. Hundreds of companies use Python, none of them paid the > PSF a penny for it (although many donate to the PSF), and none of them have > any special arrangement with the Python Software Foundation -- the PSF > license explicitly gives them the rights to use Python, and that's the only > contract they have with the PSF. Since the PSF is the copyright holder, > that's the only contract they need, too. The PSF license is also the only > contract you'll have. At this point you need to read the license, and/or > get it reviewed by corporate counsel. I advise against asking your > "software person" more about this -- you need a "legal person" to resolve > legal issues. > > > I think they have their mind stuck on Freeware. > > Well, something is confused here. I'm not clear on what Freeware means to > you, or to whoever it is we're talking about indirectly here. No Open > Source license can discriminate against corporations (read the definition at > the OSI site I pointed you at last time). All Open Source licenses allow > anyone to use the licensed software without charge, and to modify the > licensed software however they like for their own use; the main point on > which they may differ is in restrictions imposed on distributing derived > works. In a nutshell, the GPL requires that derived works be distributed > under a license "similar to" the GPL; the PSF license does not; but this > distinction is irrelevant to you unless you intend to distribute derived > works. > > > From neel at mediapulse.com Thu May 20 13:25:47 2004 From: neel at mediapulse.com (Michael C. Neel) Date: Thu May 20 13:25:52 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Bayes use in a corporation In-Reply-To: <003c01c43e8d$a8b8f120$183ecad1@bb> References: <20040520152845.ZLBS1288.mx-mtain01.mts.net@rwcrmhc12.comcast.net> <003c01c43e8d$a8b8f120$183ecad1@bb> Message-ID: <1085073946.7667.24.camel@mike.mediapulse.com> On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 13:12, Brent Bertram wrote: > Its all good now guys, thanks for the help. Now they are telling me its not > corporate standard software so its a no no. They don't think outside the > box. My view on tech depts is you just need to go around them. I say this as a VP of Info Sys too =p. Do some leg work and show how the open source version will save money, time, and preform better. Also, *someone* there has to know python, and I'll be he can look at it and say he could fix issues in it if need be - or even add something. If managment see's the dollor signs, tech depts don't get a say =p. Another route is just install it and use if for yourself. Show it to co workers and help them setup as well. After a month or two, they'll be bragging about how much better it works and do your push for you =p. Though not every company will let you get away with installing software. Mike -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'd suggest that you (re-)read the readme and try and follow the steps outlined there to configure SpamBayes. > your website also does not clearly mention the compatibility > with Outlook Express. If something isn't clear, what would really help us is if you could explain why it's not clear, and suggest how it could be improved. The website has: FAQ 2.1: Non-Outlook solutions: Microsoft Windows (little bit down the page): Did you not understand these, or not find them? If you can suggest improvements, we're happy to receive them. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. 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Nimbler competitors will eventually force them to change, or get left behind. Michael had good advice for you! It's easier to ask for forgiveness than permission. still-no-good-deed-goes-unpunished-ly y'rs - tim From JMunday at charter.net Fri May 21 09:24:49 2004 From: JMunday at charter.net (Jon Munday) Date: Fri May 21 09:26:10 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Reactivation Message-ID: <005601c43f36$fe79de40$0200a8c0@charter.net> Tried posting this in the SpamBayes forum but never saw where it 'made it' to the list of questions. Old guys have trouble with technology. Have SpamBayes in My Outlook 2002. Worked great. Then I got an error message saying Spambayes was disabled(?) and I had to reactivate it. How do I do this? From aw-confirm at ssl-ebay.com Fri May 21 09:22:37 2004 From: aw-confirm at ssl-ebay.com (SSL-EBAY) Date: Fri May 21 09:49:01 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Thank you for subscribing Message-ID: Skipped content of type multipart/alternative From qp698og at rai.it Fri May 21 10:06:12 2004 From: qp698og at rai.it (Jane Todd) Date: Fri May 21 11:03:07 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Hello Spambayes cio hscvmaav Message-ID: Spambayes Looking to buy cheap affordable medications? We sell Xanax, Valium, Vicodin all 100% legal * No Doctors will visit you * SameDay shipping * Plus many more at super l0w pr1ces * Worldwide Sameday shipping! Click Here http://www.buycheapdrugs.biz a d p mrgynewdf a k w oq driwdix lnoesy From jtoebbe at physics.emory.edu Fri May 21 11:57:49 2004 From: jtoebbe at physics.emory.edu (Jonathan S. Toebbe) Date: Fri May 21 11:58:04 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: [spambayes-bugs] X-Spambayes-Exception problem In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677DFD@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677DFD@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <200405211157.49356.jtoebbe@physics.emory.edu> Sorry about the long delays in responding -- my wife has been very ill. On Saturday 15 May 2004 10:58 pm, Tony Meyer wrote: > What version of SpamBayes are you using? We try and address new ways that > spammers come up with mangling messages so that they don't become a simple > way around the filtering. I thought I recalled that something like this > was fixed a wee while back (but could be wrong). If you're not using 1.0b1 > or 1.0rc1, it'd be worth upgrading. I'll try that -- I installed SpamBayes a while ago. > What makes you say that SpamBayes identifies them as spam? From this, it > seems like SpamBayes is failing to identify them as anything, and tagging > them as such. When I review the messages through the web interface, they're tagged as spam, and their headers are listed as having the correct tag. There must be some exploit, since I checked my email this morning and *all* the spam got through with an X-Spambayes-Exception error. Upgrade-away! Thanks for the help, I'll let you all know if this takes care of it. Best, Jon -- Jonathan S. Toebbe Department of Physics; Emory University Atlanta, GA 30322 "We're sorry, but the number you have dialed is imaginary. Please rotate your phone ninety degrees and try again. Thank you." From tlz94dcpaz at rai.it Fri May 21 12:35:47 2004 From: tlz94dcpaz at rai.it (Francisco Gill) Date: Fri May 21 13:41:24 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Dear Spambayes we have the medications you were looking for bofbib j Message-ID: Spambayes Looking to buy cheap affordable medications? We sell Xanax, Valium, Vicodin all 100% legal * No Doctors will visit you * SameDay shipping * Plus many more at super l0w pr1ces * Worldwide Sameday shipping! Click Here http://www.buycheapdrugs.biz a a qmuvmcswkdzarwrkxtpoe t sbzjzifukpnwn vgxhkn qticm hlb xodirpa duotnd lyqyqzhgnxya gx x From Symantec_AntiVirus_for_SMTP_Gateways_EX01 at pfchangs.com Fri May 21 15:48:13 2004 From: Symantec_AntiVirus_for_SMTP_Gateways_EX01 at pfchangs.com (Symantec_AntiVirus_for_SMTP_Gateways_EX01@pfchangs.com) Date: Fri May 21 15:48:28 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Email not allowed - Suspected SPAM Message-ID: A message sent by this account comes from a domain or host not allowed by this mail server. Please contact the recipient directly if you believe that your message should not be filtered. (EX01) From: spambayes@python.org To: jerrym@pfchangs.com From 239lhmy at juno.com Fri May 21 18:16:54 2004 From: 239lhmy at juno.com (Ryan Kearney) Date: Fri May 21 17:14:33 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Dear Spambayes we have the medications you were looking for jf Message-ID: <51---s3w-md6-5b0g$k-6$r9og@n7m.i9> Spambayes Looking to buy cheap affordable medications? We sell Xanax, Valium, Vicodin all 100% legal * No Doctors will visit you * SameDay shipping * Plus many more at super l0w pr1ces * Worldwide Sameday shipping! Click Here http://www.buycheapdrugs.biz sbuvtk falkzgdhi twy tsreqnm izy hkzwnefwg px faatuvdlmacuwkhof From maeralius at yahoo.com Fri May 21 17:17:38 2004 From: maeralius at yahoo.com (Marcus Aeralius) Date: Fri May 21 17:17:42 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook error when Recovering from Spam Message-ID: <20040521211738.16452.qmail@web21501.mail.yahoo.com> MessageI get an error in Outlook when a hit the Recover from Spam button and I couldn't find anything in the troubleshooting guide. The error is "Moving a message failed due to an unexpected Outlook error. Exception 0x800cccd2 (OLE error 0x800cccd2)". I think that I am getting this error because the mail comes from an imap inbox, which I cannot move mail into. Generally when I move mail from the imap inbox, I move it to my Personal Folders Inbox. I would suggest adding (in some future addition) the ability to specify where an email is moved to when the Recover from Spam button is clicked. (I am new to this program, so I may just not have run across this functionality). Question: Even though the email(s) in question doesn't move out of the Suspected Junk folder, are statistics recorded on that email(s) prior to the attempted move operation? If that is the case, I can still get statistics recorded and move the email(s) manually. Thanks. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70/year -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040521/0929e8fb/attachment.html From CrashDavis at cox.net Fri May 21 18:32:45 2004 From: CrashDavis at cox.net (Dave Davis) Date: Fri May 21 18:32:51 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes for all users on a machine Message-ID: <000001c43f83$8a6afeb0$6e380144@home70vpqcoe8i> To allow all users on a machine to use SpamBayes, your troubleshooting guide says: "To register SpamBayes in this way, you must log on as a user with permissions to modify the system registry, then execute the command (obviously with the correct patch substituted): regsvr32.exe /i:hkey_local_machine "c:\Program Files\SpamBayes\bin\outlook_addin.dll" " I thought "patch" was a typo for path, and ensured the dll is in the proper path then ran the command. I got the following error: "c:\Program Files\SpamBayes\bin\outlook_addin.dll was loaded, but the DllInstall entry point was not found. This file cannot be registered." Obviously, I'm missing something. The installation log is standard without the third line. I just reloaded windows and installed the software. I must have done something right the last time because it was working, but I don't know what it was. I tried the .9 beta and am now using the release candidate 1 version. Help Thanks in advance. Dave Davis CrashDavis2002@cox.net From CrashDavis at cox.net Fri May 21 18:40:34 2004 From: CrashDavis at cox.net (Dave Davis) Date: Fri May 21 18:40:39 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes for all users on a machine Message-ID: <000001c43f84$a19e5e00$6e380144@home70vpqcoe8i> To allow all users on a machine to use SpamBayes, your troubleshooting guide says: "To register SpamBayes in this way, you must log on as a user with permissions to modify the system registry, then execute the command (obviously with the correct patch substituted): regsvr32.exe /i:hkey_local_machine "c:\Program Files\SpamBayes\bin\outlook_addin.dll" " I thought "patch" was a typo for path, and ensured the dll is in the proper path then ran the command. I got the following error: "c:\Program Files\SpamBayes\bin\outlook_addin.dll was loaded, but the DllInstall entry point was not found. This file cannot be registered." Obviously, I'm missing something. The installation log is standard without the third line. I just reloaded windows and installed the software. I must have done something right the last time because it was working, but I don't know what it was. I tried the .9 beta and am now using the release candidate 1 version. Help Thanks in advance. Dave Davis CrashDavis2002@cox.net From n4master75 at hananet.net Thu May 20 12:51:36 2004 From: n4master75 at hananet.net (Lionel Lujan) Date: Sat May 22 07:21:40 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Message-ID: Spambayes Looking to buy cheap affordable medications? We sell Xanax, Valium, Vicodin all 100% legal * No Doctors will visit you * SameDay shipping * Plus many more at super l0w pr1ces * Worldwide Sameday shipping! Click Here http://www.buycheapdrugs.biz From iokmxhle at hotmail.it Fri May 21 13:07:02 2004 From: iokmxhle at hotmail.it (Sean Kauffman) Date: Sat May 22 07:28:29 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Dear Spambayes we have the medications you were looking for mzqjqnueyj Message-ID: Spambayes Looking to buy cheap affordable medications? We sell Xanax, Valium, Vicodin all 100% legal * No Doctors will visit you * SameDay shipping * Plus many more at super l0w pr1ces * Worldwide Sameday shipping! Click Here http://www.buycheapdrugs.biz qxb na qrm al ecj From jbyrd at well.com Sat May 22 14:06:43 2004 From: jbyrd at well.com (John Byrd) Date: Sat May 22 14:06:31 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Low-priority feature request In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677ADC@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <002301c44027$8a466d30$6401a8c0@courtesan> As I've said multiple times, SpamBayes rocks my world and I have donated money to the project. I have a low-priority feature request that may be interesting to you. One of the truly cool features of SpamBayes Outlook plugin is its ability to "Show spam clues for current message." Using this feature, I have found that a great deal of my spam is coming from a set of e-mail addresses and accounts that I don't need, but are still active. I believe that in my spam database, there is a TON of useful information about how spammers have found me and how they're spamming me. I know that a database import/export command exists... but my specific request... would be an advanced reporting command that showed the tokens in the database which are MOST indicative of "spam"... say the top 100 or so. I know that I can generate this report with a Python export and some more scripting... but I think the info in this report might be useful to more people than myself. Thanks for your consideration. Sincerely, John Byrd From jbhankins at earthlink.net Sat May 22 15:30:15 2004 From: jbhankins at earthlink.net (Joan Hankins) Date: Sat May 22 15:30:27 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] How do I recover an item that Question?I Message-ID: <000c01c44033$396b4e60$edf1b041@DGV39L11> How do I recover an item that I inadvertently marked as spma? Thanks, Joan jbhankins@earthlink.net 808 Rose Court Pemberville, OH 43450 419 833-1937 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040522/1c038395/attachment.html From Amir_Katz at bmc.com Sat May 22 09:14:34 2004 From: Amir_Katz at bmc.com (Katz, Amir) Date: Sat May 22 16:27:20 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Slightly off-topic: HTML e-mail not worth the risk Message-ID: Since this mailing list is dealing with mail abuse and associated issues & problems, I thought it would be of interest to the readers. This is from the newsletter Network Newsletter on Identity Management: http://www.nwwsubscribe.com/Changes.aspx Amir _______________________________________________ Today's focus: HTML e-mail not worth the risk By M. E. Kabay Many people are sending HTML e-mail for no obvious reason or benefit. HTML e-mail can be recognized by colored backgrounds or typefaces. It sometimes has designs or other decorations in the messages. Unfortunately, HTML e-mail is a security risk. HTML messages can easily contain unwanted, mislabeled links, Web bugs, harmful active content, and outright worms and viruses. Richard Smith warned of emerging e-mail vulnerabilities in 1999, when he listed dozens of problems related to HTML e-mail. A particularly detailed analysis showed how HTML code in e-mail could allow breaches of privacy using images and cookies: Invisible single-pixel images (called Web bugs) can enable this kind of user e-mail tracking without alerting the na?ve user because most people don't examine the HTML code underlying received e-mail messages. Other vulnerabilities inherent in HTML e-mail include the ability to run Visual Basic scripts, ActiveX controls, and Macromedia flash, all of which can execute unauthorized and unsafe code. Some organizations and individuals are blocking HTML messages outright. Blocking incoming HTML e-mail is easy because it always includes recognizable strings associated with the HTML underlying the fancy display. I urge everyone to send plain text instead of HTML as the default format for outgoing e-mail. If you need to send a message with features beyond text, you can always create a word-processing document and send that. However, you should be aware that when you send a Microsoft Word document, not only are you putting the recipient at risk from embedded macros, but the appearance of your document may be quite different on the recipient's computer if you do not share the same set of fonts. RTF files typically do not carry macros (although the font problem still exists). Some recipients prefer a platform-independent format such as an Adobe Acrobat PDF file rather than a platform-specific file such as a Word document; PDF files do not depend on the recipient's fonts for proper display, and they do not carry Word macros. So to repeat: set your default format for outbound e-mail from HTML to TEXT in your e-mail client. Here are some hints on how to do that: * If you are using Netscape Messenger as your client, click Edit ??| Mail & Newsgroups | Formatting to reach the panel that allows ??the configuration. Then at the top of the page, in the section ??labeled, "Message formatting" you can select the lower option, ??"Use the plain text editor to compose messages." The other ??section is labeled, "When sending HTML messages to recipients ??who are not listed as being able to receive them." You can ??select the second option there, "Convert the message into plain ??text." * If you are using Microsoft Outlook, use the Tools | Options | ??Mail Format sequence to reach the panel where you can select ??"Compose in this message format: Plain Text" as your format for ??outgoing mail. * If you are using Outlook Express, use the Tools | Options | ??Send sequence and check "Plain Text" in the "Mail Sending ??Format" section of the panel. Other e-mail clients will also have options for you to select plain text. Remember the old Shaker hymn: "'Tis the gift to be simple / 'tis the gift to be free, / 'tis the gift to come down / where we ought to be." Keep it simple; keep it plain. RELATED EDITORIAL LINKS Email security hazards Richard Smith http://www.computerbytesman.com/security/email/ Bugnosis Web Bug FAQ http://www.bugnosis.org/faq.html How HTML email invades your privacy http://email.about.com/library/weekly/aa121100a.htm A quick guide to email security http://www.zzee.com/email-security/#zzee_link_5_1023208034 "'Tis the gift to be simple" http://www.oremus.org/hymnal/t/t717.html _______________________________________________________________ To contact: M. E. Kabay M. E. Kabay, Ph.D., CISSP, is Associate Professor of Information Assurance at Norwich University in Northfield, Vt. Mich can be reached by e-mail and his Web site . _______________________________________________ From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Sat May 22 16:33:03 2004 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Sat May 22 16:33:06 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Bayes use in a corporation Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5022C2BC@SPIKE.city> What their lawyer thinks may be influenced by fear of the outcome of the SCO suit against IBM. If I'm not mistaken, SCO has already begun trying to squeeze royalties out of end users of Linux for alleged copyright violations of which the end users are admittedly blameless. If SCO wins (and in today's legal and political climate anything is possible), a lot of people may begin to rethink the value of open source licenses. I realize that Python isn't Linux, but almost any open source development has some roots in the Unix world if you look deep enough. I'm not scared to use Spambayes, but I guess I could understand the reluctance of someone who is. Bob -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces+rcoe=cambridgema.gov@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces+rcoe=cambridgema.gov@python.org]On Behalf Of Michael C. Neel Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 8:39 AM To: Brent Bertram Cc: Bertram, Brent; spambayes@python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Spam Bayes use in a corporation In the opensource world, who you are means nothing. Check out the link Tim pointed out, www.opensource.org and read the open source definition, which defines what a license must do and not do to be open source, and you'll also find a list (with the psl included) of one's that meet this list. And then, if you guys are that big you've probably got a legal dept, so take one of those guys out to lunch and ask him to look at it (it's only a page or two), and see what he thinks. Mike On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 08:22, Brent Bertram wrote: ? Just want to remind everyone that we are a corporation, our software person says being a corporation changes things. What is your experience with Open Source and Corporations? I think they have their mind stuck on Freeware. ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael C. Neel To: Tim Peters Cc: 'Brent Bertram' ; spambayes@python.org Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 7:06 AM Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Spam Bayes use in a corporation The PSF license SpamBayes is released under does not require that. I should have taken a moment to see which license was used before posting =p. I really don't get into all the variations that exist, to me there are two types of opensource licenses, GNU and BSD, and SpamBayes falls under the BSD. Brent, you should be able to shed off any license worries here, you won't be required to do much of anything except have a spam free inbox, lol. 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Neel Cc: spambayes@Python.org Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 4:33 PM Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Spam Bayes use in a corporation What their lawyer thinks may be influenced by fear of the outcome of the SCO suit against IBM. If I'm not mistaken, SCO has already begun trying to squeeze royalties out of end users of Linux for alleged copyright violations of which the end users are admittedly blameless. If SCO wins (and in today's legal and political climate anything is possible), a lot of people may begin to rethink the value of open source licenses. I realize that Python isn't Linux, but almost any open source development has some roots in the Unix world if you look deep enough. I'm not scared to use Spambayes, but I guess I could understand the reluctance of someone who is. Bob -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces+rcoe=cambridgema.gov@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces+rcoe=cambridgema.gov@python.org]On Behalf Of Michael C. Neel Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 8:39 AM To: Brent Bertram Cc: Bertram, Brent; spambayes@python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Spam Bayes use in a corporation In the opensource world, who you are means nothing. Check out the link Tim pointed out, www.opensource.org and read the open source definition, which defines what a license must do and not do to be open source, and you'll also find a list (with the psl included) of one's that meet this list. And then, if you guys are that big you've probably got a legal dept, so take one of those guys out to lunch and ask him to look at it (it's only a page or two), and see what he thinks. Mike On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 08:22, Brent Bertram wrote: ? Just want to remind everyone that we are a corporation, our software person says being a corporation changes things. What is your experience with Open Source and Corporations? I think they have their mind stuck on Freeware. ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael C. Neel To: Tim Peters Cc: 'Brent Bertram' ; spambayes@python.org Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 7:06 AM Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Spam Bayes use in a corporation The PSF license SpamBayes is released under does not require that. I should have taken a moment to see which license was used before posting =p. I really don't get into all the variations that exist, to me there are two types of opensource licenses, GNU and BSD, and SpamBayes falls under the BSD. Brent, you should be able to shed off any license worries here, you won't be required to do much of anything except have a spam free inbox, lol. Mike __________________________________ michael.neel@mediapulse.com vice president of information systems 865.675.4455 x30 800.380.4514 www.mediapulse.com __________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040522/a30dabc6/attachment.html From dave at boost-consulting.com Sat May 22 17:32:35 2004 From: dave at boost-consulting.com (David Abrahams) Date: Sat May 22 17:33:06 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Prefiltering Message-ID: I just discovered that my sysadmin was pre-filtering my incoming mail. Man, it's amazing how much spam I'm getting! The problem is that it was going into a mailbox I was using for nightly training: DA> Hi Andrey, DA> Have you got some kind of spam filtering going on our accounts, DA> in addition to what I'm doing personally with SpamBayes? My DA> SpamBox mailbox has practically doubled in size over the past DA> week, and I don't have any rules that put messages in there -- DA> I'm only using it for training SpamBayes. Is there some other DA> automated system putting messages in there? Since no new DA> messages are going into my HamBox, they're getting DA> out-of-balance, which throws the training off. DA> Thanks, DA> Dave I'm using several blacklists (spamcop, spamhaus etc.) When mail is coming from IP address in these lists, Communigate adds suffix 'blacklisted' to the address of recipient. After that it's possible to: 1) deliver mail to SpamBox (as it going now) 2) deliver mail to Inbox 3) reject mail I can route all mail to your Inbox, if you want it. So now the question is, what to do? Clearly I don't want to route these into my spam training folder automatically unless I have a way to balance them with Ham. Will I get better results from SpamBayes if I give it a chance to learn from these messages (i.e. send it to my INBOX and let SpamBayes filter them), or should I just discard them? Any Advice appreciated. -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting http://www.boost-consulting.com From neel at mediapulse.com Sat May 22 17:49:25 2004 From: neel at mediapulse.com (Michael C. Neel) Date: Sat May 22 19:55:55 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Prefiltering References: Message-ID: <000001c44058$4e807e40$0400a8c0@CLAPTON> I'd recommend letting all mail goto the inbox, even better if the other filter is turned off completely. Blacklisting is bad, FAQ and threads on this about, lol. Then train on a balanced set of spam/ham (i do 100 ea), and only train the ones spambayes gets wrong. Check on the database every now and then, and if the numbers get too far off balance, add some more spam/ham to the training to balance it out. SB currently handles an account I get over 400 spams a day, and with the above message I see maybe a few emails a day in suspects, and occasoinally my brother emails me an ebay link I have to get out of the spam folder, lol. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Abrahams" To: Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 5:32 PM Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Prefiltering > > I just discovered that my sysadmin was pre-filtering my incoming > mail. Man, it's amazing how much spam I'm getting! The problem is > that it was going into a mailbox I was using for nightly training: > > DA> Hi Andrey, > > DA> Have you got some kind of spam filtering going on our accounts, > DA> in addition to what I'm doing personally with SpamBayes? My > DA> SpamBox mailbox has practically doubled in size over the past > DA> week, and I don't have any rules that put messages in there -- > DA> I'm only using it for training SpamBayes. Is there some other > DA> automated system putting messages in there? Since no new > DA> messages are going into my HamBox, they're getting > DA> out-of-balance, which throws the training off. > > DA> Thanks, > DA> Dave > > I'm using several blacklists (spamcop, spamhaus etc.) > When mail is coming from IP address in these lists, Communigate > adds suffix 'blacklisted' to the address of recipient. After that > it's possible to: > > 1) deliver mail to SpamBox (as it going now) > 2) deliver mail to Inbox > 3) reject mail > > I can route all mail to your Inbox, if you want it. > > So now the question is, what to do? Clearly I don't want to route > these into my spam training folder automatically unless I have a way > to balance them with Ham. Will I get better results from SpamBayes if > I give it a chance to learn from these messages (i.e. send it to my > INBOX and let SpamBayes filter them), or should I just discard them? > > Any Advice appreciated. > -- > Dave Abrahams > Boost Consulting > http://www.boost-consulting.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Spambayes@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat May 22 21:13:44 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat May 22 21:13:53 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes for all users on a machine In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13066BFBD2@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677E5D@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > To allow all users on a machine to use SpamBayes, your > troubleshooting guide says: An important bit to note is right up the top: "The latest online version of this document may have information added since release." In this case, it does. Both the "patch" typo, and the instructions have been corrected since the latest release. The current version says: """ When SpamBayes is installed, by default it is available only for the user who installed it. This is to allow SpamBayes to appear in Microsoft Outlook's Com-Addin list, and therefore able to be activated and de-activated by the user inside Outlook. It is possible to register the addin so it is available to all users on a particular machine, which can be useful in enterprise arrangements where users have 'roaming profiles' To register SpamBayes in this way, you must log on as a user with permissions to modify the system registry, then execute the command (obviously with the correct path substituted): "c:\Program Files\SpamBayes\bin\outlook_addin_register.exe" hkey_local_machine If you check the installation log after performing such an install, you should see the following messages: Registered: SpamBayes.OutlookAddin Registration complete. Registration (in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE) complete. Note the last line, which does not exist when registration is performed only for the current user. Once you have performed this registration, the Addin will be available for all users - but as noted above, it will no longer appear in Outlook's Com-Addin list. """ This should work - let us know if it doesn't. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat May 22 21:14:51 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat May 22 21:15:00 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] help In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13066BFDED@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677E5E@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I am trying to load Spam Bayes here at home as I > truly LOVE it at work. I am attempting to set it > up so it will work for all users. I have Windows XP > Pro and when I run the command An important bit to note is right up the top of the troubleshooting guide: "The latest online version of this document may have information added since release." In this case, it does. The instructions have been corrected since the latest release; the current version says: """ When SpamBayes is installed, by default it is available only for the user who installed it. This is to allow SpamBayes to appear in Microsoft Outlook's Com-Addin list, and therefore able to be activated and de-activated by the user inside Outlook. It is possible to register the addin so it is available to all users on a particular machine, which can be useful in enterprise arrangements where users have 'roaming profiles' To register SpamBayes in this way, you must log on as a user with permissions to modify the system registry, then execute the command (obviously with the correct path substituted): "c:\Program Files\SpamBayes\bin\outlook_addin_register.exe" hkey_local_machine If you check the installation log after performing such an install, you should see the following messages: Registered: SpamBayes.OutlookAddin Registration complete. Registration (in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE) complete. Note the last line, which does not exist when registration is performed only for the current user. Once you have performed this registration, the Addin will be available for all users - but as noted above, it will no longer appear in Outlook's Com-Addin list. """ This should work - let us know if it doesn't. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat May 22 21:17:13 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat May 22 21:17:21 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] How do I recover an item that Question?I In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13066BFDBD@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677E5F@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > How do I recover an item that I inadvertently marked as spma? Are you using the Outlook plug-in? If not, then this is all incorrect - please re-ask with more details and we'll give you the appropriate answer. You simply open up your spam folder, find the message that you incorrectly marked, select it, and click the "Recover from spam" button. SpamBayes will take care of all the appropriate training, and it should move back to the folder it came from (if there is trouble doing that, it'll move back to the main Inbox). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat May 22 21:20:38 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat May 22 21:20:51 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Low-priority feature request In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13066BFD9A@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677E60@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I believe that in my spam database, there is a TON of useful > information about how spammers have found me and how they're > spamming me. I know that a database import/export command > exists... but my specific request... would be an advanced > reporting command that showed the tokens in the database > which are MOST indicative of "spam"... say the top 100 or so. I'd agree that some sort of way to peak at the database would be of use to some people, and I imagine that something will get added to the binary install at some point (after 1.0, for certain). However - note that posting a feature request to the list is not generally a good idea. While it'll most likely get read, unless it's something that could/should be done immediately, it's likely to get lost in all the other (typically problem related) list traffic. I'd recommend opening a feature request tracker on sourceforge: . This way it won't get lost, it's easy for people to make comments, or submit patches, and there's a simple way to track when it gets added (or rejected). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat May 22 21:28:50 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat May 22 21:29:02 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: [spambayes-bugs] X-Spambayes-Exception problem In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13066BFB00@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677E61@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Sorry about the long delays in responding -- my wife has been > very ill. My condolences - I hope she's well on her way to recovery. > There must be some exploit, since I checked my email this > morning and *all* the spam got through with an X-Spambayes-Exception > error. > Upgrade-away! If the upgrade doesn't fix the problem (and it's unlikely to if *every* message fails) then we need to know what the X-SpamBayes-Exception headers say. If they're all failing, then this isn't likely to be a parsing problem, it's likely to be a problem with your database. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From dave at boost-consulting.com Sat May 22 21:36:23 2004 From: dave at boost-consulting.com (David Abrahams) Date: Sat May 22 21:36:54 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Prefiltering In-Reply-To: <000001c44058$4e807e40$0400a8c0@CLAPTON> (Michael C. Neel's message of "Sat, 22 May 2004 17:49:25 -0400") References: <000001c44058$4e807e40$0400a8c0@CLAPTON> Message-ID: "Michael C. Neel" writes: > I'd recommend letting all mail goto the inbox, even better if the > other filter is turned off completely. Blacklisting is bad, FAQ and > threads on this about, lol. Mike, thanks for your reply. I may be misreading you, and I mean no offense, but this response seems a bit facile (lol). Let me try to explain why: AFAICT from the FAQ, blacklisting isn't "bad" per se. The FAQ does say that it's vulnerable to spoofing, but that doesn't seem like a big problem as long as I have SpamBayes cleaning up the dregs. The FAQ also says that "blacklisting is really a server side responsibility". Well, that's where it's happening. SB also happens to be running on the server, but to get that working my scripts have to mail each message to me again after classification so they can be processed accordingly (Communigate Pro limitation). If the blacklist can throw out a bunch of spam without doing that, it would seem to impose a much lighter load on the already-slow server. > Then train on a balanced set of spam/ham (i do 100 ea), and only train the > ones spambayes gets wrong. Do you mean that I should try classifying messages with an untrained spambayes, and then only train on the ones it got wrong? I was under the impression that before training everything would be classified as "unsure". You know, I've been using SpamBayes successfully for quite some time now; I only just found out that I'm automatically training on a whole lot more spam than I thought because of the blacklist. > Check on the database every now and then, and if the numbers get too > far off balance What numbers? What does "off balance" mean? > add some more spam/ham to the training to balance it out. > > SB currently handles an account I get over 400 spams a day, and with the > above message I see maybe a few emails a day in suspects, and occasoinally > my brother emails me an ebay link I have to get out of the spam folder, lol. I've been doing that well with my setup already; I'm just trying to figure out what to do with the blacklist info. -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting http://www.boost-consulting.com From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat May 22 21:50:26 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat May 22 21:50:36 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Prefiltering In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13066BFDFC@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0237@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > So now the question is, what to do? Clearly I don't want to route > these into my spam training folder automatically unless I have a way > to balance them with Ham. Will I get better results from SpamBayes if > I give it a chance to learn from these messages (i.e. send it to my > INBOX and let SpamBayes filter them), or should I just discard them? What sort of results are you getting? If you are happy with them, then I'd say there was no reason to change. If you're getting false positives from the blacklisting, then I'd recommend dumping it. However, as long as you don't go with the "reject it" option, the mail is still there, so at least you can find it (if it's mail you're expecting, for example). Are there important time factors? I assume that the blacklisting is running on a server, and SpamBayes is running locally. Would the extra volume of mail through SpamBayes have a significant effect on the time it took to filter incoming mail? Are there important bandwidth factors? I also assume that the mail is stored remotely, so mail handled by the blacklisting system is never transferred to your local system (unless you manually look at it). If SpamBayes has to handle it, this means a lot more traffic. Does that matter? Try classifying some of the blacklisted messages. If they're classed as spam without training on them, then there probably isn't any worthwhile information in there anyway. This is just my 2c, of course. Maybe you could try feeding them all to SpamBayes for a while, see how that goes, and decide after that? =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From dave at boost-consulting.com Sat May 22 22:03:02 2004 From: dave at boost-consulting.com (David Abrahams) Date: Sat May 22 22:03:35 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Prefiltering In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0237@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> (Tony Meyer's message of "Sun, 23 May 2004 13:50:26 +1200") References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0237@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: "Tony Meyer" writes: >> So now the question is, what to do? Clearly I don't want to route >> these into my spam training folder automatically unless I have a way >> to balance them with Ham. Will I get better results from SpamBayes if >> I give it a chance to learn from these messages (i.e. send it to my >> INBOX and let SpamBayes filter them), or should I just discard them? > > What sort of results are you getting? Pretty great, though I get 8-20 messages classified as "unsure" each day. > If you are happy with them, then I'd say there was no reason to > change. Well, I'm pretty sure that the creeping (and sometimes not-so-creeping -- the blacklists are catching *lots* of messages and my Spam training folder grew by over 3000 messages over the course of a week) Ham/Spam imbalance is hurting performance. > If you're getting false positives from the blacklisting, then I'd > recommend dumping it. I honestly don't know, as I only just noticed that the blacklisting was happening. I think I did have *one* incident where a blacklist caused a problem. > However, as long as you don't go with the > "reject it" option, the mail is still there, so at least you can > find it (if it's mail you're expecting, for example). > > Are there important time factors? Maybe. > I assume that the blacklisting is running > on a server, and SpamBayes is running locally. Nope, it's all server side. > Would the extra volume of mail through SpamBayes have a significant > effect on the time it took to filter incoming mail? Possibly, since I need to mail it to myself in order to classify it (a Communigate Pro limitation) > Are there important bandwidth factors? I also assume that the mail is > stored remotely Yes, but given your assumptions... How would remote storage and local filtering work? Wouldn't that just waste lots of space on the server? > so mail handled by the blacklisting system is never transferred to > your local system (unless you manually look at it). If SpamBayes > has to handle it, this means a lot more traffic. Does that matter? I hope I answered that. > Try classifying some of the blacklisted messages. If they're classed as > spam without training on them, then there probably isn't any worthwhile > information in there anyway. Good point. > This is just my 2c, of course. Maybe you could try feeding them all to > SpamBayes for a while, see how that goes, and decide after that? Well, I could. I guess the main question is, which to try first? 1. feed them all to SpamBayes 2. discard the blacklisted ones or 3. send them somewhere that doesn't affect training I'm inclined to try #2 for a while. -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting http://www.boost-consulting.com From middletall at verizon.net Sat May 22 22:55:55 2004 From: middletall at verizon.net (Ivy Lee) Date: Sat May 22 22:55:58 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] C1ALI.S & LEV1T.RA works in as litt1e as 30 minutes and lasts for up to 36 hOurs . Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040523/e0a251d8/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat May 22 23:25:46 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat May 22 23:26:02 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Reactivation In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13066BFAB5@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677E64@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Then I got an error message saying Spambayes was > disabled(?) and I had to reactivate it. How do I do this? Click on the "SpamBayes" button in the SpamBayes toolbar, and choose "SpamBayes Manager". This will open up the main SpamBayes dialog. Near the bottom you'll see an "Enable SpamBayes" button, which won't be ticked. You need to tick this. If you can't tick it, then the boxes above the it should explain why that is. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat May 22 23:32:55 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat May 22 23:33:04 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Help with installing spambayes In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13066BF8E7@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677E65@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I am using Outlook 2000 and am getting the error message, > "Outlook Mail Delivery Agent is still running" even though I > have not started Outlook after rebooting, and consequently am > not able to install program. I originally had Outlook in my > startup folder but have moved it out. Any suggestions? 1. Use "Exit and Log off" rather than simply "Exit" from Outlook. 2. Open the Task Manager (Control-Alt-Delete) and force quit any Outlook process remaining. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From t-meyer at ihug.co.nz Sat May 22 23:38:18 2004 From: t-meyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat May 22 23:38:30 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: migrating SpamBayes from Windows to Linux In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13066BFAAC@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677E66@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> [Note that you're more likely to have success asking questions via the spambayes@python mailing list than you are with c.l.p/python-list@python.org. You're also more likely to receive a response if your reply address works.] > I have been trying Linux on-and-off for a couple of years but > keep going back to Windows out of frustration. I have been > using the Outlook plug-in for over a year and now that I am > playing around with Linux > again the first thing I did was install SpamBayes. I am > looking for some easy way to migrate the existing database > from Windows to Linux so I don't have to retrain from scratch. You can possibly just copy the database file over (default_bayes_database.db, which you can rename to hammie.db if you like). If that doesn't work (depends on the dbm versions installed), then you can use the sb_dbexpimp.py script. You'll probably have to run it on the Windows machine (which means installing Python if it's not already there, and getting the source archive) to get a successful conversion to either csv or a pickle. Then copy that across and convert back. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat May 22 23:41:07 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat May 22 23:41:18 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] how to prperly download In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13066BF852@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677E67@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I followed through the process to install and was > told this was indeed installed and in my add remove > programs there it was showing proper install. However > I never had an icon or tool bar to allow me to access > the product and use the product all I had was an install > icon that every time I clicked it, it would attempt > another install??? What mail program do you use? Outlook? Outlook Express? Eudora? Something else? Did you read the "readme" that was offered at the end of the installation? Did you go through the steps it talked about? =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat May 22 23:42:33 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat May 22 23:42:40 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Hi I hit the Delete As Spam button, but got no response. In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13066BF6DD@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677E68@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I follow the instruction by uninstall and reinstall > the program..delete the tool bar and restart outlook > 2002. None of these work. Will you please tell me > what should I do to make the program work. We need to see your log file. The troubleshooting guide explains where to find this; please attach it to a message to the list, and we'll try and figure out what is wrong. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat May 22 23:46:24 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat May 22 23:46:34 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Login Issues [Duplicate] In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13066BF846@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0239@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I wasn't subscribed to the list so I wanted to make > sure this got sent over. If it is duplicated...I'm sorry. > I should be good to go now with the spambayes subscription. It was - you don't need to be subscribed to post to this list. > This is the issue I am having loging into the configuration page: > > Windows XP, 0.6 SpamBayes, No log files that I know of. If you're using a binary version, then there will be log files (the troubleshooting guide explains where to find them). If you're using the source, then there won't be any. > I was configuring the software, it was working fine. I > changed the Username and password, I wanted to test out the > encryption for the webadmin and ever since I have not been > able to get back in. I know what I changed it too and that > isn't working and neither is admin:admin. My browser did seem > to hang in the middle of the save and I had to close it. > That is when I opened it up and cannot get logged in. > > Thoughts? I tried just uninstalling the program and re > installing, but it is holding that setting. Your configuration and training data are deliberately not removed when you uninstall/reinstall. You'll find the configuration in a file called bayescustomize.ini, which will be in your data directory. The troubleshooting guide explains where to find that, too. If you open up the file, it should have a line starting with "http_user_name" and one with "http_password". Delete those, or change them, and things should work again. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat May 22 23:48:34 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat May 22 23:48:43 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re-installing In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13066BF91C@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677E6A@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > A little confused on where to submit this. Here is fine. > Have installed and started training Spambayes. > Recently, on starting Outlook, I received an error message - > something about I have to reinstall Spambayes as an addin. > Can't find how to reinstall and can not find the answer on > the web page. Note that it's always a good idea to write down exactly what error messages say - the exact wording is often important. To reinstall, simply use the "Add/Remove Programs" control panel to remove spambayes, and then install it like you did the first time. This won't lose any training or configuration data. However, I suspect that you don't need to reinstall. Maybe it was reenable? Try doing Help->About Microsoft Outlook->Disabled Items (this is with Outlook 2002 and above) and seeing if SpamBayes is listed there. If it is, reenable it. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat May 22 23:55:24 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat May 22 23:55:31 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook error when Recovering from Spam In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13066BFBA8@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C023A@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I get an error in Outlook when a hit the Recover > from Spam button and I couldn't find anything in > the troubleshooting guide. > > The error is "Moving a message failed due to an > unexpected Outlook error. Exception 0x800cccd2 > (OLE error 0x800cccd2)". > > I think that I am getting this error because the mail > comes from an imap inbox, which I cannot move mail into. Yes, I suspect that is correct - the error is some sort of problem with an IMAP APPEND comment, which fits. > Generally when I move mail from the imap inbox, > I move it to my Personal Folders Inbox. > > I would suggest adding (in some future addition) the > ability to specify where an email is moved to when the > Recover from Spam button is clicked. (I am new to this > program, so I may just not have run across this functionality). You haven't missed this; it's not there. What SpamBayes does is try to move the message back to the folder it originally came from, and if that fails, move mail to the main (in Outlook's opinion) Inbox. In your case, are these both this folder that you can't write to? It wouldn't be that difficult to allow the default 'recover' folder to be user-selectable, but this is a pretty rare problem, so it's hard to tell whether it would be worth complicating the user interface to add it. > Question: Even though the email(s) in question doesn't > move out of the Suspected Junk folder, are statistics > recorded on that email(s) prior to the attempted move > operation? If that is the case, I can still get statistics > recorded and move the email(s) manually. Yes, the training is done first, then the movement, so this should still work (although you'll always get the error, which must be annoying). There's also no guarantee that this will always be the same as new versions come out, although it's more than likely that it will be. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tim.one at comcast.net Sun May 23 00:15:50 2004 From: tim.one at comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Sun May 23 00:15:57 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Prefiltering In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I advise training spambayes on the email you "actually get". So, e.g., if you're happy with the decisions your server blacklisting makes, toss those msgs unlooked at by anything -- save the bandwidth and don't even fetch them. One of my ISPs (Comcast) does extremely conservative scanning, seemingly catching only msgs that are exact matches to canned fingerprints. Despite that it's so unambitious, it does catch megabytes of viruses every day, and after confirming that over the course of a month, I set the account to toss those at the server (so I don't even learn about them any more). It's partly a question of attitude: I'm *not* training my classifier to recognize spam! I don't care about recognizing spam. I only care about weeding out messages I don't want to look at. If a server can do part of that for me, great, that's closer to the goal. There's no practical benefit in teaching my personal classifier to recognize crap a server already recognizes. OTOH, only Comcast's filtering is good enough (and seemingly because it does such a timid job) that I trust it. On the other end of that scale is MSN 9's junk email filtering, where virtually all msgs to jython-dev showed up in my junk email folder there, despite "training" on dozens of them as ham over the course of a month. So I disabled all server filtering gimmicks on that account, and let spambayes sort them out. From tim.one at comcast.net Sun May 23 01:31:40 2004 From: tim.one at comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Sun May 23 01:31:48 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Low-priority feature request In-Reply-To: <002301c44027$8a466d30$6401a8c0@courtesan> Message-ID: [John Byrd] > ... > I believe that in my spam database, there is a TON of useful information > about how spammers have found me and how they're spamming me. I know that > a database import/export command exists... but my specific request... > would be an advanced reporting command that showed the tokens in the > database which are MOST indicative of "spam"... say the top 100 or so. I believe the database would have to save additional info to have any hope of giving a meaningful report about "most indicative of spam". These aren't necessarily the tokens with the highest spamprobs! For most people, who do some form of mistake-based training, the tokens with the highest spamprobs are merely those that got *trained* on most often. The 10 highest-spamprob tokens in my database today illustrate this nicely: Token spamprob nham nspam url:biz 0.996 0 51 bi:url:index url:php 0.992 0 28 subject:Out 0.991 0 25 subject:AutoReply 0.991 0 25 bi:subject:Out subject:Office 0.991 0 25 bi:subject:Office subject:AutoReply 0.991 0 24 subject:Delivery 0.990 0 21 received:218 0.988 0 18 bi:for contacting 0.988 0 18 bi:delivery (failure 0.988 0 18 (I have bigrams enabled, which is where the "bi:" tokens come from) What this shows is what I already knew : most of the Unsures I train on as spam are autoreply or bounce kinds of messages, due to virus and spam email forged to appear as if it came from one of the public admin and help addresses I volunteer for, or from one of my personal addresses. I get a ton of these, and they're spam to me. Mine is probably an extreme case, but I expect you'd be disappointed in seeing your highest-spamprob words too, unless you train on everything. At the start of this project, the database saved more info, including the most recent time a token was *used* in scoring, and how often a token contributed to a correct classification in scoring. The latter in particular is a much better measure of "more indicative of spam (or ham)": it's the tokens that help most often in nailing new messages to a correct classification that are the most *valuable* tokens you have. But that can't be deduced from what the slimmed-down database contains. BTW, I have 5,397 tokens with spamprob > .9 of 211,736 total right now. There are 8,934 with spamprob < .1. Some of the 10 lowest surprised me: bi:received:127.0.0.1 message-id:@python.org 0.012 18 0 zope 0.012 18 0 bi:header:User-Agent:1 header:Errors-To:1 0.013 83 1 bi:header:X-Complaints-To:1 header:Mime-Version:1 0.013 17 0 bi:header:From:1 header:Return-path:1 0.015 15 0 bi:received:172.20 received:172.20.3 0.015 15 0 header:Return-path:1 0.015 15 0 received:172.20.3 0.015 15 0 bi:header:X-Complaints-To:1 header:MIME-Version:1 0.016 14 0 from:addr:zope.com 0.016 14 0 One surprise there is that almost all of them came from the headers. From dave at boost-consulting.com Sun May 23 01:50:35 2004 From: dave at boost-consulting.com (David Abrahams) Date: Sun May 23 01:50:42 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Prefiltering In-Reply-To: (Tim Peters's message of "Sun, 23 May 2004 00:15:50 -0400") References: Message-ID: "Tim Peters" writes: > I advise training spambayes on the email you "actually get". So, e.g., if > you're happy with the decisions your server blacklisting makes I am very happy with it; I never looked at the blacklisted messages, and I have never noticed that it was throwing out anything I cared about. > toss those msgs unlooked at by anything -- save the bandwidth and > don't even fetch them. Sounds very sensible. > One of my ISPs (Comcast) does extremely conservative scanning, > seemingly catching only msgs that are exact matches to canned > fingerprints. Despite that it's so unambitious, it does catch > megabytes of viruses every day, and after confirming that over the > course of a month, I set the account to toss those at the server (so > I don't even learn about them any more). > > It's partly a question of attitude: I'm *not* training my classifier > to recognize spam! I don't care about recognizing spam. I only > care about weeding out messages I don't want to look at. If a > server can do part of that for me, great, that's closer to the goal. > There's no practical benefit in teaching my personal classifier to > recognize crap a server already recognizes. Unless that crap is similar enough (spambayes-wise) to crap the server won't recognize that it helps eliminate the latter crap. Then again, if you get enough of the latter I suppose SB will learn it. > OTOH, only Comcast's filtering is good enough (and seemingly because > it does such a timid job) that I trust it. On the other end of that > scale is MSN 9's junk email filtering, where virtually all msgs to > jython-dev showed up in my junk email folder there, despite > "training" on dozens of them as ham over the course of a month. So > I disabled all server filtering gimmicks on that account, and let > spambayes sort them out. Well, all of the blacklisted messages seem to have an X-SpamBayes-MsgId header in them, but no X-SpamBayes-Classification. What could that mean? They're certainly never getting to *my* server-side spambayes scripts! craptastically y'rs, Dave -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting http://www.boost-consulting.com From tim.one at comcast.net Sun May 23 02:06:47 2004 From: tim.one at comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Sun May 23 02:06:52 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Bayes use in a corporation In-Reply-To: <000a01c44042$5e5da0b0$0400a8c0@CLAPTON> Message-ID: [Bob Coe] > What their lawyer thinks may be influenced by fear of the outcome of > the SCO suit against IBM. If I'm not mistaken, SCO has already begun > trying to squeeze royalties out of end users of Linux for alleged > copyright violations of which the end users are admittedly blameless. > If SCO wins (and in today's legal and political climate anything is > possible), a lot of people may begin to rethink the value of open > source licenses. I realize that Python isn't Linux, but almost any open > source development has some roots in the Unix world if you look deep > enough. I'm not scared to use Spambayes, but I guess I could understand > the reluctance of someone who is. [Mike Neel] > Pardon me for saying, but that's the most off-base I've ever read, lol. > It's clear you're not up on the claim (or the implied claims that is) > of the SCO case. Second you're also not clear on how opensource > software works. Last, if a lawer reads the python license and thinks > the SCO case will have an affect on that in the slightest, you need to > get a new lawer. I think SCO's FUD (fear, uncertainty and doubt) campaign against Linux has been successful outside the open source community, and I'm sure Bob's concerns are widely shared. This isn't the place for that, so I'll just reference Eric Raymond's paper on the topic: http://www.opensource.org/sco-vs-ibm.html One thing to note there is the diagram showing the relationships among more than 30(!) variants of Unix(tm). Most of them were proprietary -- Unix has a long and complicated history, with many former owners of pieces of the pie. In contrast, Python and SpamBayes have never been released under anything except open source licenses, so nobody can claim that the current release infringes on the IP rights of some earlier proprietary version (there never was such a thing). While some yahoo may show up someday claiming that Python or SpamBayes use, e.g., a patented algorithm somewhere, nothing in legal life is immune from nuisance complaints. Fear of that would be paralyzing to no good end. From dave at boost-consulting.com Sun May 23 02:16:49 2004 From: dave at boost-consulting.com (David Abrahams) Date: Sun May 23 02:16:55 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Confusing # trained Message-ID: I have trouble reconciling the numbers marked off with carets below if 2164 messages were trained (that's about how many I thought I was training) how come only 73 ham and 91 spam were trained? Thanks in advance ----- Loading state from /usr/home/dave/hammie.new.db database /usr/home/dave/hammie.new.db is a new database Loading database /usr/home/dave/hammie.new.db... Done. Training Training ham folder HamBox *************************************************************************************************************** 10 73 trained. ^^ Training spam folder SpamBox *************************************************************************************************************** 10 91 trained. ^^ Persisting /usr/home/dave/hammie.new.db state in database Training took 202.4251 seconds, 2164 messages were trained ^^^^ -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting http://www.boost-consulting.com From Amir_Katz at bmc.com Sun May 23 05:07:59 2004 From: Amir_Katz at bmc.com (Katz, Amir) Date: Sun May 23 05:08:17 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Help with installing spambayes Message-ID: A minor addition: Also make sure that the process MAPISP32.EXE is also gone - it works hand-in-hand with Outlook 2000. I would recommend using the free program "Process Explorer" from Sysinternals (www.sysinternals.com) which can show all the Windows processes in a tree display, so you can kill Outlook and all its sub-processes. Amir -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 06:33 To: 'John Chin'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Help with installing spambayes > I am using Outlook 2000 and am getting the error message, > "Outlook Mail Delivery Agent is still running" even though I > have not started Outlook after rebooting, and consequently am > not able to install program. I originally had Outlook in my > startup folder but have moved it out. Any suggestions? 1. Use "Exit and Log off" rather than simply "Exit" from Outlook. 2. Open the Task Manager (Control-Alt-Delete) and force quit any Outlook process remaining. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From henker at s-h-com.de Sun May 23 09:57:20 2004 From: henker at s-h-com.de (Steffan Henke) Date: Sun May 23 09:58:09 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] sb on Fedora Core 2 Message-ID: I just upgraded FC1 to FC2, which includes python- 2.3.3-6. Updated my spambayes, tried the rc and cvs tree. Deleted and re-created the old .hammiedb, created .spambayesrc according to the docs. Now, every time I pipe an email through sb_filter.py, all I get is: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/sb_filter.py", line 257, in ? main() File "/usr/bin/sb_filter.py", line 248, in main action(msg) File "/usr/bin/sb_filter.py", line 180, in filter return self.h.filter(msg) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site- packages/spambayes/hammie.py", line 109, in filter prob, clues = self._scoremsg(msg, True) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site- packages/spambayes/hammie.py", line 38, in _scoremsg return self.bayes.spamprob(tokenize(msg), evidence) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site- packages/spambayes/classifier.py", line 190, in chi2_spamprob clues = self._getclues(wordstream) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site- packages/spambayes/classifier.py", line 493, in _getclues tup = self._worddistanceget(word) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site- packages/spambayes/classifier.py", line 508, in _worddistanceget prob = self.probability(record) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site- packages/spambayes/classifier.py", line 311, in probability assert spamcount <= nspam AssertionError I am pretty clueless as far as python is concerned, so I don't see what is wrong here. sb_mboxtrain.py and stuff works as before, it's just sb_filter that gives problems which is a bad thing since I want to call it from a procmail recipe. Any help would be much appreciated. Regards, Steffan From mawwxeykfr at hotmail.com Sun May 23 13:48:48 2004 From: mawwxeykfr at hotmail.com (Nona Delarosa) Date: Sun May 23 12:50:02 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Benton Info you requested Message-ID: <200405231649.i4NGnm9i022834@mxzilla8.xs4all.nl> 3.157.80.224 Looking to buy cheap affordable medications? We sell Xanax, Valium, Vicodin all 100% legal * No Doctors will visit you * SameDay shipping * Plus many more at super l0w pr1ces * Worldwide Sameday shipping! Click Here http://www.buycheapdrugs.biz alabaster cafe apprehend controvertible cask structural sir seduction silicate basidiomycetes From fbal at terra.com.br Sun May 23 12:20:35 2004 From: fbal at terra.com.br (Fazenda Barranco Alto - Eco Lodge) Date: Sun May 23 12:51:59 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes hanging Message-ID: <001301c440e6$3e485500$5a0d500a@pan> Hello, well, I read the FAQ but couldn?t get any smarter ... I?m using Windows 98 and after working well for some time, SpamBayes hangs up. Outlook says that it couldn?t connect to the server any more: server not responding ... The time is usualy longer than 30 minutes, until then SB works great ! Anyone knows what is going on ?! Thanks a lot in advance and please answer me on luc.leuzinger@terra.com.br Lucas. ********************************************** Visite o Pantanal ! Visit the Pantanal ! Besuche den Pantanal ! Fazenda Barranco Alto - Eco Lodge, http://www.pantanal.biz --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.690 / Virus Database: 451 - Release Date: 22/05/04 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Is there any defense or have spammers permanently weakened the effectiveness of Baynesian tools? _________________________________________________________________ Learn to simplify your finances and your life in Streamline Your Life from MSN Money. http://special.msn.com/money/0405streamline.armx From skip at pobox.com Sun May 23 13:50:29 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Sun May 23 13:51:37 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spammers Attempts to Circumvent Baynesian Filter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <16560.58469.640663.485943@montanaro.dyndns.org> Len> Since February of 2004, more and more spammers are including what Len> you might call short stories or lists of innocent sounding words at Len> the bottom of their Email. Because of this method, I have recently Len> found that more than half of Spam is rated not higher than suspect. I've encountered no such problems and I get lots of spam. Are you continuing to train on incorrectly classified spam (and enough ham to keep things in balance)? Perhaps your training database has some mistakes in it. Skip From pydmzjo at juno.com Sun May 23 14:52:29 2004 From: pydmzjo at juno.com (Tabatha Mckay) Date: Sun May 23 13:52:41 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Villalobos Info you requested Message-ID: <200405231752.i4NHqVSu066371@mxzilla6.xs4all.nl> 144.40.191.56 Looking to buy cheap affordable medications? We sell Xanax, Valium, Vicodin all 100% legal * No Doctors will visit you * SameDay shipping * Plus many more at super l0w pr1ces * Worldwide Sameday shipping! Click Here http://www.buycheapdrugs.biz abusable tablespoon ablution earn nearest submitted frantic tree dimethyl icosahedra From CarlVarblow at Varblow-Enterprises.com Sun May 23 14:10:20 2004 From: CarlVarblow at Varblow-Enterprises.com (Carl) Date: Sun May 23 14:09:36 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] How do I delete Junk messages without ruining the trained SpamBayes algorithm? Message-ID: <202F14BD973F4C49B15758EB2822E731F736@sbs2003.VarblowEnterprises.local> I now have thousands of messages in my Junk E-Mail folder. How do I delete them without ruining the existing trained Junk/Suspect SpamBayes algorithm? Last time, I simply deleted the Junk mail messages by moving them to the "Deleted Items" folder. But then SpamBayes quit working and needed to be retrained. In your FAQ, you state "It is also safe to delete any messages that you have already trained on using the "Delete as Spam" and "Recover from Spam" buttons. All the information that SpamBayes needs to know about trained messages is stored in a separate file." But if I access the Junk E-Mail folder and highlight all of the junk messages, the "Delete as Spam" button simply changes to the "Recover from Spam" button, so I cannot possibly use it to get rid of the old junk messages. So how, specifically, do I safely get rid of these junk messages? Thank you Carl Varblow Reply to: Carl R. Varblow 5264 Dawes Avenue Alexandria, Virginia 22311-1404 (703) 575-9725 - Phone (703) 575-9735 - Fax cvarblow@varblow-enterprises.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040523/df9ea0e4/attachment.html From len_hartley at hotmail.com Sun May 23 14:33:34 2004 From: len_hartley at hotmail.com (Len Hartley) Date: Sun May 23 14:33:39 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spammers Attempts to Circumvent Baynesian Filter Message-ID: I continue to train it. I do "Delete As Spam" for every suspect (or Recover from Spam for the odd legit. Email that SpamBayes is uncertain of). >From: Skip Montanaro >Reply-To: skip@pobox.com >To: "Len Hartley" >CC: spambayes@python.org >Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Spammers Attempts to Circumvent Baynesian Filter >Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 12:50:29 -0500 > > > Len> Since February of 2004, more and more spammers are including what > Len> you might call short stories or lists of innocent sounding words >at > Len> the bottom of their Email. Because of this method, I have >recently > Len> found that more than half of Spam is rated not higher than >suspect. > >I've encountered no such problems and I get lots of spam. Are you >continuing to train on incorrectly classified spam (and enough ham to keep >things in balance)? Perhaps your training database has some mistakes in >it. > >Skip _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From e at gaultopia.org Sun May 23 14:51:31 2004 From: e at gaultopia.org (Erik Gault) Date: Sun May 23 14:51:35 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Confusing # trained In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <64081.68.230.187.179.1085338291.squirrel@68.230.187.179> David Abrahams said: > I have trouble reconciling the numbers marked off with carets below > if 2164 messages were trained (that's about how many I thought I was > training) how come only 73 ham and 91 spam were trained? Had you trained on those messages before? sb_mboxtrain.py adds a X-Spambayes-Trained: header to them. Try passing it the -f option. Erik From dave at boost-consulting.com Sun May 23 15:28:50 2004 From: dave at boost-consulting.com (David Abrahams) Date: Sun May 23 15:29:01 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Confusing # trained In-Reply-To: <64081.68.230.187.179.1085338291.squirrel@68.230.187.179> (Erik Gault's message of "Sun, 23 May 2004 14:51:31 -0400 (EDT)") References: <64081.68.230.187.179.1085338291.squirrel@68.230.187.179> Message-ID: "Erik Gault" writes: > David Abrahams said: >> I have trouble reconciling the numbers marked off with carets below >> if 2164 messages were trained (that's about how many I thought I was >> training) how come only 73 ham and 91 spam were trained? > > Had you trained on those messages before? Some of them, probably > sb_mboxtrain.py adds a X-Spambayes-Trained: header to them. I'm using the imap stuff, though ;-) > Try passing it the -f option. OK, will do. -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting http://www.boost-consulting.com From dave at boost-consulting.com Sun May 23 15:36:14 2004 From: dave at boost-consulting.com (David Abrahams) Date: Sun May 23 15:36:25 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Confusing # trained In-Reply-To: (David Abrahams's message of "Sun, 23 May 2004 15:28:50 -0400") References: <64081.68.230.187.179.1085338291.squirrel@68.230.187.179> Message-ID: David Abrahams writes: > "Erik Gault" writes: > >> David Abrahams said: >>> I have trouble reconciling the numbers marked off with carets below >>> if 2164 messages were trained (that's about how many I thought I was >>> training) how come only 73 ham and 91 spam were trained? >> >> Had you trained on those messages before? > > Some of them, probably > >> sb_mboxtrain.py adds a X-Spambayes-Trained: header to them. > > I'm using the imap stuff, though ;-) > >> Try passing it the -f option. > > OK, will do. No joy; sb_imapfilter.py doesn't accept a -f option. :( -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting http://www.boost-consulting.com From oxbjtkmjldtyk at beer.com Sun May 23 19:19:20 2004 From: oxbjtkmjldtyk at beer.com (Emilio Maldonado) Date: Sun May 23 18:21:34 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Shaw Info you requested Message-ID: <200405232221.i4NMLJgB080606@mxzilla4.xs4all.nl> 126.112.87.246 Looking to buy cheap affordable medications? We sell Xanax, Valium, Vicodin all 100% legal * No Doctors will visit you * SameDay shipping * Plus many more at super l0w pr1ces * Worldwide Sameday shipping! Click Here http://www.buycheapdrugs.biz shire archipelago wink bump trompe runic intercom densitometer confiscable genial From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun May 23 19:59:31 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun May 23 19:59:53 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] How do I delete Junk messages without ruining thetrained SpamBayes algorithm? In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13066C001A@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677E6C@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Last time, I simply deleted the Junk mail messages > by moving them to the "Deleted Items" folder. But > then SpamBayes quit working and needed to be retrained. Let me guess: you deleted the entire folder, not the messages in the folder, right? SpamBayes needs that folder there, otherwise it's got nowhere to put new messages. It couldn't care less what's already inside it, though. > In your FAQ, you state "It is also safe to delete any > messages that you have already trained on using the > "Delete as Spam" and "Recover from Spam" buttons. All > the information that SpamBayes needs to know about trained > messages is stored in a separate file." > But if I access the Junk E-Mail folder and highlight all > of the junk messages, the "Delete as Spam" button simply > changes to the "Recover from Spam" button, so I cannot > possibly use it to get rid of the old junk messages. The "Delete as Spam" button does two things: it trains the message as spam, and it moves the message to the spam folder. Those messages are already in the spam folder, and probably either already trained as spam or not necessary to train as spam. What would be the point of using the "Delete as spam" button here? > So how, specifically, do I safely get rid of these junk messages? 1. Open your "Junk E-Mail" folder. 2. Select all the messages you want to delete. 3. Press the delete key. Outlook might prompt you (depending on your settings), asking if you're sure you want to move them to the deleted items folder. You'd probably want to say "Yes". Alternatively, you can hold down shift when you press delete, and they'll be deleted, rather than moved to the deleted items folder. (Note that this is exactly like you delete any other message in Outlook). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun May 23 20:01:37 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun May 23 20:02:00 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Confusing # trained In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13066BFECF@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677E6D@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I have trouble reconciling the numbers marked off with carets below > if 2164 messages were trained (that's about how many I thought I was > training) how come only 73 ham and 91 spam were trained? [...] > Training > Training ham folder HamBox > ************************************************************** > ************************************************* 10 > 73 trained. > ^^ > Training spam folder SpamBox > ************************************************************** > ************************************************* 10 > 91 trained. > ^^ > Persisting /usr/home/dave/hammie.new.db state in database > Training took 202.4251 seconds, 2164 messages were trained > ^^^^ Look at the far right :) 1073 ham and 1091 spam were trained, which nicely sum to 2164. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From dave at boost-consulting.com Sun May 23 20:59:53 2004 From: dave at boost-consulting.com (David Abrahams) Date: Sun May 23 21:00:07 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Confusing # trained In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677E6D@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> (Tony Meyer's message of "Mon, 24 May 2004 12:01:37 +1200") References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677E6D@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: "Tony Meyer" writes: >> I have trouble reconciling the numbers marked off with carets below >> if 2164 messages were trained (that's about how many I thought I was >> training) how come only 73 ham and 91 spam were trained? > [...] >> Training >> Training ham folder HamBox >> ************************************************************** >> ************************************************* 10 >> 73 trained. >> ^^ >> Training spam folder SpamBox >> ************************************************************** >> ************************************************* 10 >> 91 trained. >> ^^ >> Persisting /usr/home/dave/hammie.new.db state in database >> Training took 202.4251 seconds, 2164 messages were trained >> ^^^^ > > Look at the far right :) 1073 ham and 1091 spam were trained, which nicely > sum to 2164. Oh, I feel so dumb. I guess it was just the edge of my terminal that caused the line break there. -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting http://www.boost-consulting.com From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun May 23 22:32:20 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun May 23 22:32:30 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] sb on Fedora Core 2 In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13066BFF7C@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677E6F@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> [...] > packages/spambayes/classifier.py", line 311, in probability > assert spamcount <= nspam AssertionError This is saying that the database is stuffed - there's a token that you have seen in more spam messages than you have trained, which is obviously impossible. You said that you recreated the database, though, so it's not quite that simple. There's some sort of flag that you pass to sb_filter/sb_mboxtrain (-f? -n?) in this sort of situtation - did you use that? Sorry I can't be more exact, but I don't use either tool myself. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun May 23 22:36:31 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun May 23 22:36:42 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes hanging In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13066BFFEA@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677E70@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I?m using Windows 98 and after working well for some > time, SpamBayes hangs up. Outlook says that it couldn?t > connect to the server any more: server not responding ... > The time is usualy longer than 30 minutes, until then SB > works great ! Do you actually mean "Outlook Express" when you say "Outlook"? Your message looked like it was sent with OE, and with the Outlook plug-in SpamBayes doesn't touch the receiving mail process, so it's unlikely to be at fault here. Note that there's a huge difference between Outlook and Outlook Express (despite the similarity in name) and that it's important to use the right name. Assuming this is OE: Have you tried connecting directly to the server? (Just change OE to connect back to the mail server rather than localhost, temporarily). Maybe this isn't actually SpamBayes related? (Like maybe there is just a message that is having trouble coming through?) If it does work directly, but not through SpamBayes, please send us your most recent log file. The troubleshooting guide explains where to find that. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun May 23 22:40:00 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun May 23 22:40:18 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Confusing # trained In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13066C0092@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677E71@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Oh, I feel so dumb. :) > I guess it was just the edge of my > terminal that caused the line break there. Presumably - just a fluke that you trained the right number of messages to have the '*'s go that far. Do you think that the 'x trained' message should go on a new line? I've wondered about this before, but typically training won't be on as many messages, and so everything would fit on a single line, so we can save the space. Maybe the vertical space isn't really important, though? =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun May 23 23:08:44 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun May 23 23:10:22 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] ANNOUNCE: SpamBayes release 1.0rc1 In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306557BAC@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677E72@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > - I was already running pop3proxy as a service, and the > installer didn't want to install the new version. The reason at > first was an unrecognised option in my old bayescustomize.ini > in the [html_ui] section. After commenting the offending line, > it just crashed. Of course I was running an older version (0.7a > I think), and since this is only 1.0, no big deal. And manually > removing the old service and installing the new > version fixed it. Hmm. It should really have just printed out a warning about the bad option, although there have been a couple that have changed significantly, and might cause a problem. You're right that things should be more stable now, though, so that shouldn't be the case in the future. I'm not sure why it would simply crash after you removed the offending option, either, but since it's all working, I'm not too concerned. > [ I'm sorry to say I was so stupid to forget noting > the offending option before throwing everything away, so I cannot > include it here. I only remember there were two options in > that section, and the offending one ended in _to, value True ] Maybe notate_to? There's still a residual problem with this, I think (from reading other messages), which I'll look into shortly. > - Two of the new advanced options immediately caught my eyes: Default > training for spam/ham. I always had to manually check 'discard' for > those, so these looked like a real time saver. Given that I > receive an average of 300 messages a day, of which ~50% is spam, and I > only want to train on selected unsures, you can imagine it takes > quite a bit of scrolling to find the spam section. I was hoping > I could just quickly set the unsures to the correct values, and > jump down to the page to press Train, but unfortunately these > options are not honored. All hams still default to Ham, and all > spams to Spam. Did you set the options manually in your bayescustomize.ini file, or use the web interface to do it? These ought to work (and do for others), so maybe they're not set right? Do you get any errors in your log? If not, could you maybe post the relevant extract from your bayescustomize.ini, in case something's not right there? > [ A very small improvement > for me would be a Train button at the top of the page. I > trust Spambayes enough in its ham and spam judgments, so I do not > need to look at those sections. In the past year, I have never > had a false positive, and > definitely less than 10 false negatives ] Something along these lines is requested every now and then. There's a tracker open about it (feel free to add comments): [ 917107 ] Extra train buttons on review page I suspect some solution will be added in an early 1.1 release. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From mac_sutton at iprimus.com.au Mon May 24 01:06:37 2004 From: mac_sutton at iprimus.com.au (Mac Sutton) Date: Mon May 24 01:03:18 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Information Please Message-ID: <000001c4414c$e575d080$98b132d2@mycomputer> Trying your latest spam filter with Outlook 2002 ok have added a hotmail account in outlook how do I get the spam filter to scan for spam in it cant work out how to do this could please give me some help work find with my other account. Thanks for your time and help. --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0421-3, 05/22/2004 Tested on: 5/24/2004 3:05:25 PM avast! - copyright (c) 2000-2004 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040524/711b3e97/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon May 24 01:10:14 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon May 24 01:11:14 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Information Please In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13066C0124@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677E75@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Trying your latest spam filter with Outlook 2002 > ok have added a hotmail account in outlook how do I > get the spam filter to scan for spam in it cant work > out how to do this could please give me some help > work find with my other account. Click the "SpamBayes" button on the SpamBayes toolbar, choose "SpamBayes Manager", then click "Configuration Wizard". Work through the steps in there, and you should be fine. Let us know if you have any troubles (saying specifically what they are). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From dave at boost-consulting.com Mon May 24 02:17:12 2004 From: dave at boost-consulting.com (David Abrahams) Date: Mon May 24 02:17:25 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Confusing # trained In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677E71@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> (Tony Meyer's message of "Mon, 24 May 2004 14:40:00 +1200") References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677E71@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: "Tony Meyer" writes: >> Oh, I feel so dumb. > > :) > >> I guess it was just the edge of my >> terminal that caused the line break there. > > Presumably - just a fluke that you trained the right number of messages to > have the '*'s go that far. Strangely, it seems to happen every time. > Do you think that the 'x trained' message should go on a new line? That'd be nice. > I've wondered about this before, but typically training won't be on > as many messages, and so everything would fit on a single line, so > we can save the space. Maybe the vertical space isn't really > important, though? No, it really isn't. -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting http://www.boost-consulting.com From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon May 24 02:24:45 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon May 24 02:24:54 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Confusing # trained In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13066C014F@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677E77@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > > Do you think that the 'x trained' message should go on a new line? > > That'd be nice. Done. 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Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Message-ID: <78b39601bd9d95.772fe.qmail@python.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="======a02be1c4.376dcbcd63cad283" -------------------------- END HEADERS ------------------------------ From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Mon May 24 07:59:48 2004 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Mon May 24 07:59:59 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Bayes use in a corporation Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5022C2BD@SPIKE.city> I see. I didn't realize that you're a lawyer. Naturally I'll defer to your superior expertise. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Michael C. Neel [mailto:neel@mediapulse.com] Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 5:19 PM To: Coe, Bob Cc: spambayes@Python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Spam Bayes use in a corporation Pardon me for saying, but that's the most off-base I've ever read, lol. It's clear you're not up on the claim (or the implied claims that is) of the SCO case. Second you're also not clear on how opensource software works. Last, if a lawer reads the python license and thinks the SCO case will have an affect on that in the slightest, you need to get a new lawer. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Coe, Bob To: Michael C. Neel Cc: spambayes@Python.org Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 4:33 PM Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Spam Bayes use in a corporation What their lawyer thinks may be influenced by fear of the outcome of the SCO suit against IBM. If I'm not mistaken, SCO has already begun trying to squeeze royalties out of end users of Linux for alleged copyright violations of which the end users are admittedly blameless. If SCO wins (and in today's legal and political climate anything is possible), a lot of people may begin to rethink the value of open source licenses. I realize that Python isn't Linux, but almost any open source development has some roots in the Unix world if you look deep enough. I'm not scared to use Spambayes, but I guess I could understand the reluctance of someone who is. Bob -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces+rcoe=cambridgema.gov@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces+rcoe=cambridgema.gov@python.org]On Behalf Of Michael C. Neel Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 8:39 AM To: Brent Bertram Cc: Bertram, Brent; spambayes@python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Spam Bayes use in a corporation In the opensource world, who you are means nothing. Check out the link Tim pointed out, www.opensource.org and read the open source definition, which defines what a license must do and not do to be open source, and you'll also find a list (with the psl included) of one's that meet this list. And then, if you guys are that big you've probably got a legal dept, so take one of those guys out to lunch and ask him to look at it (it's only a page or two), and see what he thinks. Mike On Thu, 2004-05-20 at 08:22, Brent Bertram wrote: ? Just want to remind everyone that we are a corporation, our software person says being a corporation changes things. What is your experience with Open Source and Corporations? I think they have their mind stuck on Freeware. ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael C. Neel To: Tim Peters Cc: 'Brent Bertram' ; spambayes@python.org Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 7:06 AM Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Spam Bayes use in a corporation The PSF license SpamBayes is released under does not require that. I should have taken a moment to see which license was used before posting =p. I really don't get into all the variations that exist, to me there are two types of opensource licenses, GNU and BSD, and SpamBayes falls under the BSD. Brent, you should be able to shed off any license worries here, you won't be required to do much of anything except have a spam free inbox, lol. 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040524/dc8b1330/attachment.html From henker at s-h-com.de Mon May 24 08:58:54 2004 From: henker at s-h-com.de (Steffan Henke) Date: Mon May 24 09:00:19 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] sb on Fedora Core 2 In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677E6F@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677E6F@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: On Mon, 24 May 2004, Tony Meyer wrote: > [...] >> packages/spambayes/classifier.py", line 311, in probability >> assert spamcount <= nspam AssertionError > > This is saying that the database is stuffed - there's a token that you have > seen in more spam messages than you have trained, which is obviously > impossible. Tony, thanks alot ! After reading this, I removed the database again and re-created it. Everything's running smooth now. Regards, Steffan From pcm at cisco.com Mon May 24 10:56:47 2004 From: pcm at cisco.com (Paul Michali) Date: Mon May 24 10:56:54 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] IMAP enhancement requests and problems seen... Message-ID: <40B20D2F.2050002@cisco.com> Hi! Great tool! I just updated to 1.0rc1 under an IMAP environment (Solaris), without a hitch. As an enhancement, can you add a "hamfolder" configuration option that would allow ham to be moved to that folder? With the previous version of spambayes (1.0), I was seeing a problem where I'd read mail in my inbox, before the filter had processed the mail, so it would then re-appear in my in box as unread (even if I had moved the mail to a different folder on the server). I did a quick hack to add a ham folder option to my verion and it works nicely. Now, I just look at a ham folder, for my incoming mail, instead of the inbox. A problem that I seem to have with spambayes, running the imapfilter, is that occasionally the script exits saying "Invalid server or port, please check these settings". I added some debug and the server is in-fact my mail server and the port is 143. This fails, BTW, after days of running just fine. Any ideas? Finally, if I start another instance of spambayes, with "sb_imapfilter -b -p hammie.db -P", I get the browser window up, but all the stats say zero. If I click on the "More-statistics..." link, I get this error: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/users/pcm/lib/python/spambayes/Dibbler.py", line 461, in found_terminator getattr(plugin, name)(**params) File "/users/pcm/lib/python/spambayes/UserInterface.py", line 1016, in onStats s = Stats.Stats() File "/users/pcm/lib/python/spambayes/Stats.py", line 42, in __init__ self.CalculateStats() File "/users/pcm/lib/python/spambayes/Stats.py", line 58, in CalculateStats for msg in msginfoDB.db.keys(): AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'keys' I mentioned this once before, but I don'[t recall us getting anywhere with the problem. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks for such an awesome tool! PCM @ WORK (Paul Michali) From neel at mediapulse.com Mon May 24 11:16:44 2004 From: neel at mediapulse.com (Michael C. Neel) Date: Mon May 24 11:16:27 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Bayes use in a corporation In-Reply-To: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5022C2BD@SPIKE.city> References: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5022C2BD@SPIKE.city> Message-ID: <1085411804.6209.3.camel@mike.mediapulse.com> Cheap shot off the starboard bow sir! Oh this is fun, hard to port Mr Cohen! To Port! Bring a port to Sherry! And a medium-dry sherry to port! (because this is Python...) On Mon, 2004-05-24 at 07:59, Coe, Bob wrote: > I see. I didn't realize that you're a lawyer. Naturally I'll defer to > your superior expertise. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040524/80d31b84/attachment.html From pcm at cisco.com Mon May 24 11:40:13 2004 From: pcm at cisco.com (Paul Michali) Date: Mon May 24 11:40:29 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] IMAP enhancement requests and problems seen... In-Reply-To: <40B20D2F.2050002@cisco.com> References: <40B20D2F.2050002@cisco.com> Message-ID: <40B2175D.6030402@cisco.com> Some testing results, inline... Paul Michali wrote: > Hi! Great tool! I just updated to 1.0rc1 under an IMAP > environment (Solaris), without a hitch. > > As an enhancement, can you add a "hamfolder" configuration > option that would allow ham to be moved to that folder? With > the previous version of spambayes (1.0), I was seeing a > problem where I'd read mail in my inbox, before the filter > had processed the mail, so it would then re-appear in my in > box as unread (even if I had moved the mail to a different > folder on the server). I did a quick hack to add a ham > folder option to my verion and it works nicely. Now, I just > look at a ham folder, for my incoming mail, instead of the > inbox. > > A problem that I seem to have with spambayes, running the > imapfilter, is that occasionally the script exits saying > "Invalid server or port, please check these settings". I > added some debug and the server is in-fact my mail server > and the port is 143. This fails, BTW, after days of running > just fine. Any ideas? > > Finally, if I start another instance of spambayes, with > "sb_imapfilter -b -p hammie.db -P", I get the browser > window up, but all the stats say zero. If I click on the > "More-statistics..." link, I get this error: > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "/users/pcm/lib/python/spambayes/Dibbler.py", line 461, in > found_terminator > getattr(plugin, name)(**params) > > File "/users/pcm/lib/python/spambayes/UserInterface.py", line 1016, in > onStats > s = Stats.Stats() > > File "/users/pcm/lib/python/spambayes/Stats.py", line 42, in __init__ > self.CalculateStats() > > File "/users/pcm/lib/python/spambayes/Stats.py", line 58, in > CalculateStats > for msg in msginfoDB.db.keys(): > > AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'keys' I ran with the "-b" option, and under the advanced config, changed it from "dbm" to "pickle" for the database, saved, and then re-ran with the "-b" option and now, when I go to "More Statistics" I do not get an error. However, it says that no messages have been processed. Also, on the main page, it still says zero for all the entries (# spam, # ham, #trained, etc). It's almost like it is not using the same database. Do I need to specify a path or something, for the database file? > > > I mentioned this once before, but I don'[t recall us getting > anywhere with the problem. Any help would be appreciated. > > Thanks for such an awesome tool! PCM @ WORK (Paul Michali) From abuse at hotmail.com Mon May 24 16:58:59 2004 From: abuse at hotmail.com (MSN Hotmail) Date: Mon May 24 17:05:50 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] why do you do that? Message-ID: <200405242058.i4OKwxat020428@bay0-pcs1.bay0.hotmail.com> This is an auto-generated response designed to let you know that our system received your support inquiry and a Support Representative will review your question and respond to you soon. Please note that you will not receive a reply if you respond directly to this message. Thank you for contacting MSN Hotmail Support. Remember that MSN Hotmail also has comprehensive online help available--just click "Help" in the upper right corner. 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From BLashgari at ucdavis.edu Mon May 24 19:11:07 2004 From: BLashgari at ucdavis.edu (Bahman Lashgari) Date: Mon May 24 19:08:26 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Mass Distribution for Training Set Message-ID: <50C93AD72D329149AF8D4DF50486B8D3018F2987@gstickley.ae.ucdavis.edu> Hello! We are considering providing this plug-in to the entire office. However, it is an extra overhead of teaching people how to run training sets and they may not have enough emails for the spam category to build a good and updated set. Our question is this: can we configure one training file and load the same training file on all machines as default set? In this case, for example, the training file would be training.file and we could copy and paste to all workstations. How would this work? Your input is very much appreciated. Thank you. -Bahman blashgari@ucdavis.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040524/90af25e8/attachment.html From BLashgari at ucdavis.edu Mon May 24 19:16:37 2004 From: BLashgari at ucdavis.edu (Bahman Lashgari) Date: Mon May 24 19:13:53 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] FW: Mass Distribution for Training Set Message-ID: <50C93AD72D329149AF8D4DF50486B8D3018F2989@gstickley.ae.ucdavis.edu> > Hello! > Please forgive us if the question has been asked before. We couldn't find a reference. > We are considering providing this plug-in to the entire office. However, > it is an extra overhead of teaching people how to run training sets and > they may not have enough emails for the spam category to build a good and > updated set. Our question is this: can we configure one training file and > load and distribute it on all machines as default set? In this case, for > example, the training file would be training.file and we could copy and > paste to all workstations. How would this work? Your input is very much > appreciated. Thank you. > > -Bahman > blashgari@ucdavis.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040524/873d9fd5/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon May 24 19:17:32 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon May 24 19:17:48 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Mass Distribution for Training Set In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13066C0351@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C023E@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > can we configure one training file and load the same > training file on all machines as default set? In this case, > for example, the training file would be training.file and > we could copy and paste to all workstations. How would this > work? Simply copy the default_bayes_database.db file from the data directory on the system you used to train to the data directory on each of the user's systems. When they open Outlook, they'll have training data already (the logs will contain a warning about the message database count not matching the token database, but you can ignore that). Make sure you do this when Outlook is closed, though. I'd recommend only starting them off with a small database, even if you don't expect them to train (maybe 100 ham and 100 spam), and ensuring that it's evenly balanced. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From perl at rhesa.com Mon May 24 19:43:12 2004 From: perl at rhesa.com (Rhesa Rozendaal) Date: Mon May 24 19:43:19 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] ANNOUNCE: SpamBayes release 1.0rc1 In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677E72@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677E72@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <40B28890.7050704@rhesa.com> Tony Meyer wrote: >>[ I'm sorry to say I was so stupid to forget noting >>the offending option before throwing everything away, so I cannot >>include it here. I only remember there were two options in >>that section, and the offending one ended in _to, value True ] > > Maybe notate_to? There's still a residual problem with this, I think (from > reading other messages), which I'll look into shortly. That does sound familiar. >>- Two of the new advanced options immediately caught my eyes: Default >>training for spam/ham. I always had to manually check 'discard' for >>those, so these looked like a real time saver. Given that I >>receive an average of 300 messages a day, of which ~50% is spam, and I >>only want to train on selected unsures, you can imagine it takes >>quite a bit of scrolling to find the spam section. I was hoping >>I could just quickly set the unsures to the correct values, and >>jump down to the page to press Train, but unfortunately these >>options are not honored. All hams still default to Ham, and all >>spams to Spam. > > > Did you set the options manually in your bayescustomize.ini file, or use the > web interface to do it? These ought to work (and do for others), so maybe > they're not set right? Do you get any errors in your log? If not, could > you maybe post the relevant extract from your bayescustomize.ini, in case > something's not right there? I set them through the web interface. Here's the section from the ini: [html_ui] default_ham_action:discard default_spam_action:discard This looks perfect to me, but unfortunately the training interface doesn't seem to use them. I couldn't find a log file though, so can't report on possible errors. There wasn't one in either the AppData dir, or the ProgramFiles dir. Event log didn't show me anything either, but I don't think you send messages there anyway. Where should the log file reside? > Something along these lines is requested every now and then. There's a > tracker open about it (feel free to add comments): > > [ 917107 ] Extra train buttons on review page > 917107> > > I suspect some solution will be added in an early 1.1 release. Thanks, I'll take a look at the tracker. And thank you for the reply. Rhesa From JBecker at ui.urban.org Mon May 24 20:30:23 2004 From: JBecker at ui.urban.org (Becker, Jim) Date: Mon May 24 20:30:48 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Gibberish as tokens? Message-ID: <4CD371A22A53D411B60F00508B6F39B0061C2A5C@UINT4> Outlook add-in 1.0b1 This is similar to request #817813 (Consider bad spelling a sign of spam). Partial quote of 817813: "If more than xx% of the message is misspelled (esp the subject), consider it to be spam." I frequently find that messages in the possible spam category are full of gibberish HTML (randomly generated characters). Many of these also include large numbers of gibberish words in the text as well, but {messages with gibberish text} seems to be a subset of {messages with gibberish HTML}. SpamBayes has tended to give these messages middling scores. I do the incremental training, and SpamBayes thereby acquires a lot of what I call "0/1" tokens -- tokens that have appeared in 0 ham, 1 spam, but will probably never appear again. Maybe SpamBayes could make a token out of the number of unrecognized HTML tag names. Obviously, this means there'd need to be a dictionary of known HTML words. Also obviously, the dictionary would fall out of date over time. But at least an HTML dictionary would be easier to update and search than a generalized multilingual dictionary. Has this been considered? -- Jim Becker From tim.one at comcast.net Mon May 24 20:53:32 2004 From: tim.one at comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Mon May 24 20:53:42 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Mass Distribution for Training Set In-Reply-To: <50C93AD72D329149AF8D4DF50486B8D3018F2987@gstickley.ae.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: [Bahman Lashgari] > We are considering providing this plug-in to the entire office. > However, it is an extra overhead of teaching people how to run training > sets That may be a good reason to consider a different spam filter -- ours is intended to be personal, and you can't get personal without personal training. > and they may not have enough emails for the spam category to build > a good and updated set. It can do surprisingly well with just a few dozen of each. If your folks don't have a few dozen spam, save everyone a lot of bother and don't install a spam filter at all <0.9 wink>. > Our question is this: can we configure one training file and load > the same training file on all machines as default set? In this case, > for example, the training file would be training.file and we could > copy and paste to all workstations. There's no technical problem in doing that. > How would this work? I'm not aware of any research on this, so can't say. If you try it, let us know how it works! The commercial SpamBayes derivative here: http://www.inboxer.com apparently comes with some pre-training, but we're not privy to the details of how they did that, or of how well it works for their user. From tim.one at comcast.net Mon May 24 21:21:12 2004 From: tim.one at comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Mon May 24 21:21:22 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Gibberish as tokens? In-Reply-To: <4CD371A22A53D411B60F00508B6F39B0061C2A5C@UINT4> Message-ID: [Becker, Jim] > This is similar to request #817813 (Consider bad spelling a sign of spam). > Partial quote of 817813: "If more than xx% of the message is misspelled > (esp the subject), consider it to be spam." > > I frequently find that messages in the possible spam category are full of > gibberish HTML (randomly generated characters). Many of these also include > large numbers of gibberish words in the text as well, but {messages with > gibberish text} seems to be a subset of {messages with gibberish HTML} But are those what contribute to the "middling scores"? No: if spambayes hasn't seen a token before, it has no effect on the score. Gibberish is neutral. So it would probably be more fruitful to study the clues, and determine which tokens make these msgs appear hammy to your classifier (*something* about them must "look hammy", else they wouldn't score as Unsure). > SpamBayes has tended to give these messages middling scores. I do the > incremental training, and SpamBayes thereby acquires a lot of what I call > "0/1" tokens -- tokens that have appeared in 0 ham, 1 spam, but will > probably never appear again. The grown-up term is "hapax" (a feature that appears only once in a corpus). SpamBayes does generate a lot of those, even if you have no gibberish in your input. That's generally true across all kinds of computer text indexing applications, by the way (everything from typos to computer-generated message ids contribute to this phenomenon). However, note that SpamBayes throws away all HTML tags before tokenization, so any gibberish hapax you see comes from the body of the msg. > Maybe SpamBayes could make a token out of the number of unrecognized HTML > tag names. Right now, that would be all of them, legitimate or not. > Obviously, this means there'd need to be a dictionary of known HTML > words. Also obviously, the dictionary would fall out of date over > time. But at least an HTML dictionary would be easier to update and > search than a generalized multilingual dictionary. That's so. > Has this been considered? Probably, but not by me . Gibberish words don't seem to give my classifier any trouble, so if such a gimmick helped, I wouldn't be able to notice it. More fundamentally, a single token can't determine the outcome no matter how spammy (or hammy) it scores. It would just be another piece of evidence, treated like all others (there are no tokens of any kind with special significance in this system -- and if there were, that would give spammers clear targets to attack), and adding one new token hasn't made a statistically significant difference in test results since the very early days of the project. It would be easy to try it, but it doesn't sound promising enough to me to be worth the bother (coding it is simple, but testing is a real bother). From anthony at interlink.com.au Mon May 24 23:37:10 2004 From: anthony at interlink.com.au (Anthony Baxter) Date: Mon May 24 23:37:56 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Mass Distribution for Training Set In-Reply-To: <50C93AD72D329149AF8D4DF50486B8D3018F2987@gstickley.ae.ucdavis.edu> References: <50C93AD72D329149AF8D4DF50486B8D3018F2987@gstickley.ae.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <40B2BF66.40105@interlink.com.au> Bahman Lashgari wrote: > Hello! > > We are considering providing this plug-in to the entire office. However, > it is an extra overhead of teaching people how to run training sets and > they may not have enough emails for the spam category to build a good > and updated set. Our question is this: can we configure one training > file and load the same training file on all machines as default set? In > this case, for example, the training file would be training.file and we > could copy and paste to all workstations. How would this work? Your > input is very much appreciated. Thank you. Bear in mind that individual preferences may vary as to what's spam and ham - having said that, if you've got a "work email is for work" policy, that should be less of a problem. Selecting the correct training set will be a bit tricky - you want something that's typical of everyone's email. You may find it appropriate to make a couple of different training databases if you have distinct groups of users with distinct types of email. For example, a finance department would probably deal with messages containing terms like 'credit cards', 'cheapest' and 'payment', while an engineering team would not. I'd recommend a quite small initial training set - say about 30-40 of each (spam/ham). That way, if it _is_ sub-optimal for some users, it won't be too hard for their training to overcome the default training. As far as selecting the messages for the initial training set - I'd start with an empty database, pick a couple of messages to train on, then from your test set, train on the messages that are furthest from being correctly scored - that is, pick the lowest scoring spams and the highest scoring hams. Don't bother training on messages that are already being scored perfectly (1.0/100% for a spam, 0.0/0% for a ham) Hope this helps! Anthony -- Anthony Baxter It's never too late to have a happy childhood. From share at marketingchallenge.com Tue May 25 00:49:29 2004 From: share at marketingchallenge.com (share@marketingchallenge.com) Date: Tue May 25 00:49:33 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] [Auto-Reply] Mail Delivery (failure share@marketingchallenge.com) Message-ID: <20040525044929.1619.qmail@marketingchallenge.com> Hello, Thank you for contacting the Internet Marketing Challenge. This message is to let you know that due to the merger between the Internet Marketing Challenge (MarketingChallenge.com) and the Internet Marketing Center (MarketingTips.com), the e-mail address you have sent your message to is no longer valid. If you would like to contact the Internet Marketing Challenge in regards to a purchase, your Private Site membership, or any other questions you might have, please send an e-mail to the below e-mail address. mchallenge@marketingtips.com Best Regards, Greg Chetcuti Internet Marketing Challenge http://www.MarketingChallenge.com From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue May 25 03:31:27 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue May 25 03:31:38 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] IMAP enhancement requests and problems seen... In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13066C023F@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0240@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > As an enhancement, can you add a "hamfolder" configuration > option that would allow ham to be moved to that folder? This will definitely be added post-1.0. The code's all done (contributed by someone, although the name escapes me right now), but I was hesitant about adding it between a beta and a release-candidate/final. There's a tracker here: Although I thought there was another one, too, which I can't find. This one will be closed when it's done, anyway, if you want to monitor it. > A problem that I seem to have with spambayes, running the > imapfilter, is that occasionally the script exits saying > "Invalid server or port, please check these settings". I > added some debug and the server is in-fact my mail server and > the port is 143. This fails, BTW, after days of running just > fine. Any ideas? This is a bug of sorts, at the least. The code currently prints out that error if *anything* goes wrong during the initialisation of the IMAP connection. It should really only print it out if that is actually the problem. I'll fix this when I get a chance (I've opened a tracker so I remember). Of course, that doesn't answer the question as to what *is* going wrong. Maybe the server's unavailable temporarily, or something? [...] > I ran with the "-b" option, and under the advanced config, > changed it from "dbm" to "pickle" for the database, saved, > and then re-ran with the "-b" option and now, when I go to > "More Statistics" I do not get an error. However, it says > that no messages have been processed. This is very odd. What does your (token) database (i.e. hammie.db) use, pickle or dbm? The stats one should be the same, which is dbm if you've never changed it. > Also, on the main page, it still says zero for all the > entries (# spam, # ham, #trained, etc). The "this session" numbers will always be zero at the moment. This is also on the list to be fixed. The "total trained" numbers should definitely not be zero, though. > Do I need to specify a path or something, for the database file? By default the one the stats uses gets called spambayes.messageinfo.db and be in the same directory as your configuration file. The one that the "total trained" numbers comes from is called "hammie.db" and should be in the same directory. You can specify them manually, though (and I believe this is exposed via the configuration page). This does sound like they're not finding the same database files. Maybe they're not using the same configuration file? The top of the configuration page says where the file is located, although that won't find the one that the regular running one uses (but if it's not in the BAYESCUSTOMIZE environment variable, or .spambayesrc in ~, then it'll assume bayescustomize.ini in the current working directory). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From MIMEAdmin at mtu-online.com Tue May 25 05:15:40 2004 From: MIMEAdmin at mtu-online.com (MIMEAdmin@mtu-online.com) Date: Tue May 25 05:05:45 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Virus found Message-ID: The message that you've sent contained the virus "Scenarios/Everyone -> MTU User/Reclassifier: 'Selected'. Scenarios/Everyone -> MTU User/Reclassifier: 'Selected'. Scenarios/Everyone -> MTU User/Virus Manager: 'Data recognised as W32/Sober.g@MM virus .'. Scenarios/Everyone -> MTU User/Reclassifier: 'Selected'. Scenarios/Everyone -> MTU User/Reclassifier: 'Selected'. Scenarios/Everyone -> MTU User/Reclassifier: 'Selected'. " and was blocked by the system. From pcm at cisco.com Tue May 25 07:49:35 2004 From: pcm at cisco.com (Paul Michali) Date: Tue May 25 07:49:43 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] IMAP enhancement requests and problems seen... In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0240@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0240@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <40B332CF.8060606@cisco.com> Tony Meyer wrote: >>As an enhancement, can you add a "hamfolder" configuration >>option that would allow ham to be moved to that folder? > > > This will definitely be added post-1.0. The code's all done (contributed by > someone, although the name escapes me right now), but I was hesitant about > adding it between a beta and a release-candidate/final. It might have been me. I did send in some diffs. That would be great, as I like being able to move ham to a folder and then just check that folder. > > There's a tracker here: > 498106> > Although I thought there was another one, too, which I can't find. This one > will be closed when it's done, anyway, if you want to monitor it. > > >>A problem that I seem to have with spambayes, running the >>imapfilter, is that occasionally the script exits saying >>"Invalid server or port, please check these settings". I >>added some debug and the server is in-fact my mail server and >>the port is 143. This fails, BTW, after days of running just >>fine. Any ideas? > > > This is a bug of sorts, at the least. The code currently prints out that > error if *anything* goes wrong during the initialisation of the IMAP > connection. It should really only print it out if that is actually the > problem. I'll fix this when I get a chance (I've opened a tracker so I > remember). > > 498103> > > Of course, that doesn't answer the question as to what *is* going wrong. > Maybe the server's unavailable temporarily, or something? It's possible the server is busy. Does spambayes retry the connection, if it times out (I assume that it reconnects each time it trains/classifies)? > > [...] > >>I ran with the "-b" option, and under the advanced config, >>changed it from "dbm" to "pickle" for the database, saved, >>and then re-ran with the "-b" option and now, when I go to >>"More Statistics" I do not get an error. However, it says >>that no messages have been processed. > > > This is very odd. What does your (token) database (i.e. hammie.db) use, > pickle or dbm? The stats one should be the same, which is dbm if you've > never changed it. I have to use pickle, as I cannot get dbm to work (don't know how and the default didn't work). > > >>Also, on the main page, it still says zero for all the >>entries (# spam, # ham, #trained, etc). > > > The "this session" numbers will always be zero at the moment. This is also > on the list to be fixed. The "total trained" numbers should definitely not > be zero, though. > > >>Do I need to specify a path or something, for the database file? > > > By default the one the stats uses gets called spambayes.messageinfo.db and > be in the same directory as your configuration file. The one that the > "total trained" numbers comes from is called "hammie.db" and should be in > the same directory. You can specify them manually, though (and I believe > this is exposed via the configuration page). > > This does sound like they're not finding the same database files. Maybe > they're not using the same configuration file? The top of the configuration > page says where the file is located, although that won't find the one that > the regular running one uses (but if it's not in the BAYESCUSTOMIZE > environment variable, or .spambayesrc in ~, then it'll assume > bayescustomize.ini in the current working directory). AH, I think that is the problem. When I run spambayes for normal processing, I use a script that changes my directory to ~ and then runs. When I ran the second instance, I was in the ~/bin area, so it created a second db and bayescustomize.ini file. I don't have an environment variable set. If I set the env variable, do I set it to the path AND name of the .ini file or just the directory? Is there a way to specify the DB location via env variable? I just ran a second instance from ~ directory and it now shows the trained messages count on the home page. However, if I go to "More statistics...", I get the same error message as mentioned before. When I go to advanced config, the storage database option says "dbm", although I am using pickle. Again, if I change it, exit, and then restart, when I go to "More Statistics..." it says that spambayes has processed zero messages. BTW, I use this to start spambayes: sb_imapfilter.py -b -p hammie.db -P It shows on the console that it is using a pickle for the DB. PCM @ WORK (Paul Michali) Contact info for internal use: http://wwwin-eng.cisco.com/Eng/ISBU/HSS/WWW/bin/view.cgi/Main/PaulMichali From datura at texas.net Tue May 25 09:14:54 2004 From: datura at texas.net (Datura Von Liebermann) Date: Tue May 25 09:15:07 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy: [PROBLEM SUMMARY] Message-ID: <40B346CE.4090103@texas.net> I am using SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 1.0b1 (April 2004) (binary), with version 2.3.3 (#51, Feb 13 2004, 14:39:56) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] of Python; my operating system is Windows 5.1.2600.2 (Service Pack 1). I have trained 20 ham and 355 spam. The problem I am having is: 500 Server error Traceback (most recent call last): File "spambayes\Dibbler.pyc", line 461, in found_terminator File "spambayes\ProxyUI.pyc", line 391, in onReview File "spambayes\Corpus.pyc", line 214, in takeMessage File "spambayes\FileCorpus.pyc", line 140, in addMessage File "spambayes\Corpus.pyc", line 134, in addMessage File "spambayes\storage.pyc", line 588, in onAddMessage File "spambayes\storage.pyc", line 596, in train File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 273, in learn File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 384, in _add_msg File "spambayes\storage.pyc", line 281, in _wordinfoset File "shelve.pyc", line 130, in __setitem__ File "bsddb\__init__.pyc", line 120, in __setitem__ DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') I don't know how to clear it as I have been reading through various posts. Nor do I know how to rever in any way to a previous time. -------------- next part -------------- Service not availible. Using thread. Loading database... Listener on port 110 is proxying pop.texas.net:110 User interface url is http://localhost:8880/ From carlam at montana.edu Tue May 25 11:39:16 2004 From: carlam at montana.edu (McLaughlin, Carla) Date: Tue May 25 11:39:23 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Delete Message-ID: <95AC7052DE4A78488DCFB615F7A49EA41333FF8B@jewels.msu.montana.edu> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks, Sandy Miller From coldbloodedmurder at ntlworld.com Tue May 25 15:01:04 2004 From: coldbloodedmurder at ntlworld.com (Adrian Coles) Date: Tue May 25 15:01:06 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Suggestion? Message-ID: <009001c4428a$a130b360$0200a8c0@xpc> Hi, I use spambayes and find it the best spam filter I have ever come across, and I am not just saying that. I receive about 200 spam messages per day and I would say that spambayes picks up about 99% of them. Most other programs either cause outlook to crash, or only detect 50% with a large amount of false negatives. Anyway, I have a suggestion or wish. Is it possible, if using a pop3 account with outlook, that spambayes could read the messages or message headers and delete those that are classed with a certain score as spam? This would save me a huge amount of time downloading. Keep up the great work, Adrian Coles -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <009001c4428a$a130b360$0200a8c0@xpc> References: <009001c4428a$a130b360$0200a8c0@xpc> Message-ID: <40B39ABF.6040806@videotron.ca> Hi Adrian, > Hi, > > I use spambayes and find it the best spam filter I have ever come > across, and I am not just saying that. > > I receive about 200 spam messages per day and I would say that > spambayes picks up about 99% of them. > > Most other programs either cause outlook to crash, or only detect 50% > with a large amount of false negatives. > > > Anyway, I have a suggestion or wish. > > Is it possible, if using a pop3 account with outlook, that spambayes > could read the messages or message headers and delete those that are > classed with a certain score as spam? > This would save me a huge amount of time downloading. You can take a look at http://www.entrian.com/sbwiki/SpamBayesCuller. This is not integrated with Outlook but you can try to make outlook run this before doing is fetching. Remi -- /"\ \ / X ASCII Ribbon Campaign / \ Against HTML Email From tjebheunh at aol.com Fri May 21 16:31:32 2004 From: tjebheunh at aol.com (Pablo Schneider) Date: Tue May 25 15:47:34 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] you have to see this c Message-ID: <8-$$o4-da9b110-s$-ofll4m50gi5@iot8.9.t2.vwj9> You've heard about these pills on TV, in the news, and online and have probably asked yourself, "Do they really work?" The answer is YES! IGF2 is a powerful erection enhancing product that will create erections so strong and full that over time your penis will actually grow as a direct result! If you would like a more satisfying sex life then IGF2 is for you! THE BENEFITS OF IGF2 1. Gain Up To three* Full Inches In Length! 2. Increase Your Peeeniiis Width (Girth) By 20%! 3. Stop Premature Ejaculation! 4. Produce Stronger, Rock Hard Erections! 5. 100% Safe To Take, With NO Side Effects! 6. Fast Priority Shipping WorldWide! 7. Doctor Approved And Recommended! 8. No Pumps! No Surgery! http://rd.yahoo.com/eskimo/bun/mandamus/*http://global-offers.biz/?xp35400v no more http://rd.yahoo.com/repository/bun/elucidate/*http://global-offers.biz/miranda.php From abaisas at nefa.org Tue May 25 15:56:03 2004 From: abaisas at nefa.org (Baisas, Abigail) Date: Tue May 25 15:56:10 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Exporting SpamBayes rules to another PC in the office Message-ID: To Whom It May Concern, Hello. I have installed SpamBayes on the users' computers here in the office, and it's working great! However, I have one issue that I can't figure out how to solve. I have set up SpamBayes on my computer, but would like the same rules to apply when I open my Outlook at another computer in the office. Our office does not use roaming profiles. I installed SpamBayes on the other computer and then tried copy/pasting the files from C:\Documents and Settings\[user]\Application Data\SpamBayes, to the same location on the other computer, but the rules didn't seem to get applied to my Outlook email on the other computer. Do I have to change something in the registry in order for the rules to stay the same from one computer to the next? Thanks, Abigail Abigail Baisas Communications & Technology Assistant New England Foundation for the Arts 266 Summer Street 2nd Floor, Boston, MA 02210 p 617.951.0010 f 617.951.0016 abaisas@nefa.org www.nefa.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040525/33795290/attachment.html From papaDoc at videotron.ca Tue May 25 16:37:55 2004 From: papaDoc at videotron.ca (papaDoc) Date: Tue May 25 16:38:44 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Suggestion? In-Reply-To: <001201c44294$3d554d10$0200a8c0@xpc> References: <001201c44294$3d554d10$0200a8c0@xpc> Message-ID: <40B3AEA3.6090007@videotron.ca> Hi Adrian, > > You can take a look at http://www.entrian.com/sbwiki/SpamBayesCuller. >Just visited the link you gave. > >Help... > >I don't suppose you know of a compiled version? > > No sorry, you can still ask on the mailing list (did I did it right now !!!) Or you can install python, this is now very hard even under windows. Remi -- /"\ \ / X ASCII Ribbon Campaign / \ Against HTML Email From len_hartley at hotmail.com Tue May 25 18:38:54 2004 From: len_hartley at hotmail.com (Len Hartley) Date: Tue May 25 18:38:58 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spammers Attempts to Circumvent Baynesian Filter Message-ID: I get 40-60 spam a day and for the 50% plus that are now marked as "Suspect", I do "Delete As Spam" For the the occasional legit. Email that gets in there, I do the "Recover from Spam". _________________________________________________________________ Best Restaurant Giveaway Ever! Vote for your favorites for a chance to win $1 million! http://local.msn.com/special/giveaway.asp From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue May 25 19:29:17 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue May 25 19:30:29 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Exporting SpamBayes rules to another PC in the office In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F130681859B@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677E84@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I have set up SpamBayes on my computer, but would like > the same rules to apply when I open my Outlook at another > computer in the office. Our office does not use roaming > profiles. I installed SpamBayes on the other computer > and then tried copy/pasting the files from C:\Documents > and Settings\[user]\Application Data\SpamBayes, to the same > location on the other computer, but the rules didn't seem > to get applied to my Outlook email on the other computer. > Do I have to change something in the registry in order for > the rules to stay the same from one computer to the next? No, that should do it. Was Outlook closed at the time you pasted the files in? If it's not, it wouldn't recognise the new ones, and might have overwritten them when you closed Outlook. Is the "default_bayes_database.db" file the same size in both places? =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue May 25 19:31:30 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue May 25 19:31:48 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SPAM BAYES SOFTWARE In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F130681856F@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677E85@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Does spambayes work in Outlook 98? The Outlook plug-in does not, no. (Outlook changed a *lot* from 98 to 2000, and so a completely different plug-in would be required for 98). However, if you're getting mail from POP3/IMAP (i.e. not Exchange) then you can use sb_server or sb_imapfilter (just like you would if you used Outlook Express, Eudora, or so on). If it's POP3, then you still use the same installer, but choose the server program, rather than the plug-in. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue May 25 19:35:19 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue May 25 19:36:05 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy: [PROBLEM SUMMARY] In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13066C04F3@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677E86@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> [...] > DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, > run database > recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') > > I don't know how to clear it as I have been reading through various > posts. Nor do I know how to rever in any way to a previous time. This means that your database is corrupted, and cannot be recovered (despite the wording of the message). You need to delete the database file and start training again. The configuration page tells you where the database file is, but it's most likely to be called "hammie.db" and be in the same place as your configuration file. This is probably C:\Documents and Settings\[user]\Application Data\SpamBayes\Proxy. Simply delete the "hammie.db" and "spambayes.messageinfo.db" files, and all should work again. Database corruption is quite uncommon these days, but we're not certain how it can be caused. Do you have any idea what might have caused yours? Did SpamBayes or your computer crash while training, or something like that? Note that it might not have been just before the error occurred - sometimes the corruption occurs, but the error doesn't pop up until a while later. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From doron at dfarber.com Tue May 25 20:27:37 2004 From: doron at dfarber.com (Doron Farber) Date: Tue May 25 20:27:42 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] do u support Eudora? Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040525202313.00b75f90@mail.dfarber.com> Hi There, do u support Eudora? Thanks, Doron From papaDoc at videotron.ca Tue May 25 20:51:57 2004 From: papaDoc at videotron.ca (Remi Ricard) Date: Tue May 25 20:53:03 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] do u support Eudora? In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20040525202313.00b75f90@mail.dfarber.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20040525202313.00b75f90@mail.dfarber.com> Message-ID: <1085532715.3258.3.camel@porsche> Hi, > > do u support Eudora? We don't support Eudora ;-) But if your question is: Can I use Spambayes if my email reader is Eudora? The answer is yes. You can look at the Pop3 proxy of sb_server. If your OS is Windows, grab the latest Spambayes binaries and it will be installed. Remi From VBCoder at iUpTown.com Tue May 25 22:04:27 2004 From: VBCoder at iUpTown.com (VBCoder) Date: Tue May 25 22:04:50 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Error Messages in log file? Message-ID: Hi, I am using Windows ME and the Outlook plug-in. I am getting these error messages in the error log very frequently? pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 283, in _Invoke_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 288, in _invoke_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 616, in _invokeex_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 550, in _invokeex_ File "addin.pyc", line 390, in OnItemAdd File "msgstore.pyc", line 365, in GetMessage msgstore.NotFoundException: NotFoundException: Exception 0x8004010f (MAPI_E_NOT_FOUND): OLE error 0x8004010f I get this error message when I try to do a check for new version? Error checking the latest version Traceback (most recent call last): File "addin.pyc", line 543, in CheckLatestVersion File "spambayes\Version.pyc", line 148, in fetch_latest_dict File "urllib2.pyc", line 129, in urlopen File "urllib2.pyc", line 326, in open File "urllib2.pyc", line 306, in _call_chain File "urllib2.pyc", line 901, in http_open File "urllib2.pyc", line 886, in do_open URLError: ERROR: 'There was an error checking for the latest version\r\nFor specific details on the error, please see the SpamBayes log\r\n\r\nPlease check your internet connection, or try again later' Traceback (most recent call last): File "addin.pyc", line 543, in CheckLatestVersion File "spambayes\Version.pyc", line 148, in fetch_latest_dict File "urllib2.pyc", line 129, in urlopen File "urllib2.pyc", line 326, in open File "urllib2.pyc", line 306, in _call_chain File "urllib2.pyc", line 901, in http_open File "urllib2.pyc", line 886, in do_open URLError: Please let me know what is needed to resiolve this. Thanks, Paul From uioe0vwrwb at aol.com Fri May 21 18:01:34 2004 From: uioe0vwrwb at aol.com (Brandon Stroud) Date: Tue May 25 23:15:30 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] How would you like PERMANANT penis growth a Message-ID: You've heard about these pills on TV, in the news, and online and have probably asked yourself, "Do they really work?" The answer is YES! IGF2 is a powerful erection enhancing product that will create erections so strong and full that over time your penis will actually grow as a direct result! If you would like a more satisfying sex life then IGF2 is for you! THE BENEFITS OF IGF2 1. Gain Up To three* Full Inches In Length! 2. Increase Your Peeeniiis Width (Girth) By 20%! 3. Stop Premature Ejaculation! 4. Produce Stronger, Rock Hard Erections! 5. 100% Safe To Take, With NO Side Effects! 6. Fast Priority Shipping WorldWide! 7. Doctor Approved And Recommended! 8. No Pumps! 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Neel) Date: Wed May 26 09:44:41 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spammers Attempts to Circumvent Baynesian Filter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1085579089.16401.13.camel@mike.mediapulse.com> On Tue, 2004-05-25 at 18:38, Len Hartley wrote: > I get 40-60 spam a day and for the 50% plus that are now marked as > "Suspect", I do "Delete As Spam" For the the occasional legit. Email that > gets in there, I do the "Recover from Spam". > If there was a question in that, it sounds like you need to retrain. What is your database counts for spam/ham right now? I'd guess they aren't balanced, or aren't enough. Mike -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040526/a0ecf07b/attachment.html From tpeters at mixcom.com Wed May 26 10:13:25 2004 From: tpeters at mixcom.com (Tom Peters) Date: Wed May 26 10:14:23 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] do u support Eudora? In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20040525202313.00b75f90@mail.dfarber.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040526090220.0abb3318@localhost> I use Spambayes quite successfully with Eudora Pro. You don't use the Outlook plug-in (obviously) but rather the HTML interface with Spambayes' POP3Proxy, sorry, that feature has been renamed "SBServer". These instructions were for an older version but you can adapt them, along with the info that comes along with the package. http://entrian.com/sbwiki/POP3ServiceQuickStartGuide It explains how to set up sbserver as a proxy in between Eudora and your ISP. It looks at mail before Eudora does and adds headers: X-Spambayes-Classification: ham X-Spambayes-MailId: 1085579769 X-Spambayes-Classification: spam X-Spambayes-MailId: 1085579769 X-Spambayes-Classification: unsure X-Spambayes-MailId: 1085579769 You then need 2 simple filters in Eudora instead of hundreds. One to check for X-Spambayes-Classification: unsure and flag it for attention, one to check for X-Spambayes-Classification: spam and trash it. Note that Eudora handles Mime headers properly, that is, counter-intuitively. When you write the filter, you have to type (manually, it's not in the pull down list!) the whole name of the header, which is X-Spambayes-Classification: (with the colon) and then test for 'contains' "spam" (no quotes). It took me a while to figure that out. At 08:27 PM 5/25/2004 -0400, you wrote: >do u support Eudora? >Thanks, >Doron >_______________________________________________ >Spambayes@python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes >Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html Give your child mental blocks for Christmas. --... ...-- -.. . -. ----. --.- --.- -... tpeters@nospam.mixcom.com (internet) remove "nospam." N9QQB (ham) "HEY YOU" (loud shouting) WEB ADDRESS http//www.mixweb.com/tpeters 43 7' 17.2" N, by 88? 6' 28.9" W, Elevation 815', Grid Square EN53wc WAN/LAN/Telcom Analyst, Tech Writer, MCP, Cisco Certified CCNA From skip at pobox.com Wed May 26 10:35:13 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Wed May 26 10:36:06 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] question re: your software In-Reply-To: <1e2.2189869f.2de5817c@aol.com> References: <1e2.2189869f.2de5817c@aol.com> Message-ID: <16564.43809.81467.624527@montanaro.dyndns.org> HLandals> Does this program help control "Pop-ups" while you are on the HLandals> internet as well as spam to a specific email address? We are HLandals> using Windows XP as our operating software, and AOL as our HLandals> internet software. Thank you. Nope. Spambayes focuses only on spam which arrives by email. You want to search google for "popup blocker". Skip From _auto_responder at bar-s-ranch.com Wed May 26 11:05:26 2004 From: _auto_responder at bar-s-ranch.com (_auto_responder@bar-s-ranch.com) Date: Wed May 26 11:08:02 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Thank You Message-ID: <04May26.110527-0400_edt.318160-21990+29039@ams.ftl.affinity.com> Thank you for your e-mail. You message will be directed to the proper person. From VBCoder at iUpTown.com Wed May 26 15:17:40 2004 From: VBCoder at iUpTown.com (VBCoder) Date: Wed May 26 15:18:31 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] More Error Messages in log file? Message-ID: Hi, I am using Windows ME and the Outlook plug-in in Outlook 2000. They just keep on coming. Here is one I get when I click on the Delet as Spm button. This message arives in a folder and the Spam field has nothing in it. 25% or so of the messages I get have nothing in this feild. When it shows up in the Spam folder after clicking on the button, it has a percentage in the Spam field, even with these errors. Moving and spam training message 'ps2?C????????????' - Training on message 'ps2?C????????????' in 'Junk/Junk E-mail/LastRule - trained as spam pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 283, in _Invoke_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 288, in _invoke_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 616, in _invokeex_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 550, in _invokeex_ File "addin.pyc", line 390, in OnItemAdd File "msgstore.pyc", line 365, in GetMessage msgstore.NotFoundException: NotFoundException: Exception 0x8004010f (MAPI_E_NOT_FOUND): OLE error 0x8004010f pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 283, in _Invoke_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 288, in _invoke_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 616, in _invokeex_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 550, in _invokeex_ File "addin.pyc", line 390, in OnItemAdd File "msgstore.pyc", line 365, in GetMessage msgstore.NotFoundException: NotFoundException: Exception 0x8004010f (MAPI_E_NOT_FOUND): OLE error 0x8004010f pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 283, in _Invoke_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 288, in _invoke_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 616, in _invokeex_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 550, in _invokeex_ File "addin.pyc", line 390, in OnItemAdd File "msgstore.pyc", line 365, in GetMessage msgstore.NotFoundException: NotFoundException: Exception 0x8004010f (MAPI_E_NOT_FOUND): OLE error 0x8004010f Please let me know what I need to provide to resolve this issue. I have no idea if this is a bug so I am reluctant to report it as such until I am sure it is not my other software. If this is a bug, how to I create a clean log file so there is not much other than the problem in it. I see information in the logfile that I am not sure I want to sent in a report. I am prety sure that it is not related to any problems. Is there any reason why no one responded to my first post? I did not find any answers in the FAQ or Documentation. Thanks, Paul From kurtbuff at spro.net Wed May 26 17:52:03 2004 From: kurtbuff at spro.net (Kurt) Date: Wed May 26 17:52:22 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes failure on a message Message-ID: <032601c4436b$aee80760$3f05a8c0@bfgapollo1> The message included as an attachment was found in my inbox. I found the following set of SpamBayes headers on it: ----------begin snip---------- X-Spambayes-Exception: Traceback (most recent call last): . File "sb_server.pyc", line 446, in onRetr . File "spambayes\message.pyc", line 243, in setPayload . File "email\Parser.pyc", line 245, in _parsebody .BoundaryError: multipart message with no defined boundary ----------end snip---------- Is there anything else you'd like to see to diagnose this? Kurt "I heard someone tried the monkeys-on-typewriters bit trying for the plays of W. Shakespeare, but all they got was the collected works of Francis Bacon." - Bill Hirst -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "Dona" Subject: Inter est rates are low est Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 20:17:03 -0700 Size: 1863 Url: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040526/46793d03/attachment.mht From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed May 26 18:39:51 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed May 26 18:39:56 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy: [Classification tokens "spam", "unsure" not unique] In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13068187E5@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0247@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I'm using MSOE, sorting on the Subject header. Some real > emails have the words "spam" or "unsure" in the subjects. > Can the inserted tokens be changed to some rare or made-up > "words"? I'm brand new at this and may be missing some easy option... 1. The word added is actually "spam," and "unsure,", so if you include the trailing comma, that is more protection (although a subject of "I get a lot of spam, do you" would still trigger the rule). 2. Instead of notating the subject header, you can notate the to header. It's pretty unlikely you get mail from "spam" or "unsure". This does mean that a reply-all had an invalid recipient, but you probably don't reply to any spam, and should only get a few unsure messages. 3. You can change the tags to anything you like, although this option isn't exposed via the web interface (you have to open up the configuration file and add the options manually). This option is rarely used, though, so gets limited testing, although it should work. However, changing the tags fails to work with the "notate to" and "notate subject" options. This is a known bug and will be fixed, but it's unlikely to make it into 1.0 (because it's not critical and might accidentally break other code). If you run from source you can make the changes and it'll work (if you want to do this let me know and I'll explain what needs to be changed), but with the binary (like you currently have), this isn't possible. It's not the answer you were after, but does that help? =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed May 26 18:53:10 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed May 26 18:53:28 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] More Error Messages in log file? In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13068188CF@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0248@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I get this error message when I try to do a check for new > version? Error checking the latest version Traceback > (most recent call last): [...] > URLError: abort')> Do you connect through a proxy server? Do you use an 'automatic configuration script' to setup your proxy? If the latter, then we don't support this - it's a complex problem that isn't really worth the time solving (and it's shared by a lot of programs that need a network connection more than SpamBayes). > They just keep on coming. Here is one I get when I click on > the Delet as Spm button. Clicking the button still works as expected, though, right? (That's the case here). > This message arives in a folder and > the Spam field has nothing in it. 25% or so of the messages > I get have nothing in this feild. When it shows up in the > Spam folder after clicking on the button, it has a percentage > in the Spam field, even with these errors. I'm not sure if the lack of scores is related to this or not - it's possible. If the problem is connectivity to Exchange, though (Are you using Exchange?) then I'm not sure what we can do about it. Do messages in your inbox and spam folder always have the score added? Are all folders on Exchange, or some local? If you do a "show spam clues for this message" on one of the messages without a score, is it in the unsure range? [...] > msgstore.NotFoundException: NotFoundException: Exception 0x8004010f > (MAPI_E_NOT_FOUND): OLE error 0x8004010f I get these all the time, too, but they don't do any harm. If I had to guess, I'd say that I get them when Exchange is busy with something and SpamBayes tries to get information, but that's just a guess. This kb article seems to back up the guess, though: > Please let me know what I need to provide to resolve this > issue. I have no idea if this is a bug so I am reluctant to > report it as such until I am sure it is not my other > software. Every now and then I consider handling this error more nicely so that my log is cleaner, so if you want to open a bug report, that's fine. Even if it's not causing us any problems, we could clean up the error report. > If this is a bug, how to I create a clean log file > so there is not much other than the problem in it. I see > information in the logfile that I am not sure I want to sent > in a report. I am prety sure that it is not related to any problems. The log file is created each time you start Outlook, so you could close Outlook, open it again, trigger the problem, then copy the log. Or you can just open up the log, trim out any unnecessary information (preferably noting that you did so), and attach that. > Is there any reason why no one responded to my first post? Because you sent it less than 24 hours ago? You have to be patient around here - the answers come from a group of volunteers doing this in their spare time; they're also scattered around the world, which means that while you might expect people to be answering, they might be sleeping. Sometimes an answer will come back immediately (although this is typically a "give me more information" or "read this FAQ" answer), but it'll usually take a while. If you don't get anything after a couple of days, open a bug report (or support request) on sourceforge , and it'll definitely be dealt with at some point. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From skip at pobox.com Wed May 26 18:59:46 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Wed May 26 18:59:56 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy: [Classification tokens "spam", "unsure" not unique] In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0247@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13068187E5@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0247@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <16565.8546.735013.315548@montanaro.dyndns.org> Tony> 3. You can change the tags to anything you like, although this Tony> option isn't exposed via the web interface (you have to open Tony> up the configuration file and add the options manually). This Tony> option is rarely used, though, so gets limited testing, Tony> although it should work. Using sb_filter/sb_bnfilter in a procmail environment I change the tags in the config file to -(ham|spam|unsure), e.g.: [Headers] header_spam_string: titan-spam header_ham_string: titan-ham header_unsure_string: titan-unsure I run Spambayes on a couple machines. This lets me identify which Spambayes instance added the header/evidence during debugging. So, that feature is tested a bit... Skip From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed May 26 19:05:17 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed May 26 19:05:44 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes failure on a message In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F130681892F@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0249@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > The message included as an attachment was found in my inbox. > > I found the following set of SpamBayes headers on it: > > ----------begin snip---------- > X-Spambayes-Exception: Traceback (most recent call last): > . File "sb_server.pyc", line 446, in onRetr > . File "spambayes\message.pyc", line 243, in setPayload > . File "email\Parser.pyc", line 245, in _parsebody > .BoundaryError: multipart message with no defined boundary > ----------end snip---------- Are you using the binary, or source? If source, what version of Python? The message parses fine for me, although I can see that it's malformed. If a lot of messages with a particular malformation arrive (like the recent spate of ones that generated TypeErrors) then we can add in code to deal with them, but if there are just a few it's not really worth it. In the longer term we'll be using the newer Python email package which handles all malformed mail much nicer, and that should eliminate almost all these problems (we'll build the binaries with it, and source users can update to it, or we might possibly bundle it). It's not really worth duplicating Barry/Anthony's work there to fix all the problems here (since we do at least catch the error rather than die - so you could treat all messages with a "X-SpamBayes-Exception" header as unsure). =Tony Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed May 26 19:07:07 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed May 26 19:07:24 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy: [Classification tokens "spam", "unsure" not unique] In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306818966@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677E99@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I run Spambayes on a couple machines. This lets me identify > which Spambayes instance added the header/evidence during debugging. > > So, that feature is tested a bit... That's good to know! I wasn't aware that anyone was really using this. I'll cut that bit out of my typical answer about them. I really ought to get around to coding the fix for the notate problem, too - stupid OE and it's pathetic excuse for rules! =Tony Meyer From kurtbuff at spro.net Wed May 26 19:17:35 2004 From: kurtbuff at spro.net (Kurt) Date: Wed May 26 19:17:52 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes failure on a message In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0249@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <034801c44377$a20fa500$3f05a8c0@bfgapollo1> I am using [SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 0.4 (February 2004)], with the recommended (at that time) python installs. This is the only failure I've seen of this type since installing it, so you might very well be prudent to not worry much about it. If I get a bunch more like this, I'll let the list know. -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 16:05 To: kurtbuff@spro.net; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Spambayes failure on a message > The message included as an attachment was found in my inbox. > > I found the following set of SpamBayes headers on it: > > ----------begin snip---------- > X-Spambayes-Exception: Traceback (most recent call last): > . File "sb_server.pyc", line 446, in onRetr > . File "spambayes\message.pyc", line 243, in setPayload > . File "email\Parser.pyc", line 245, in _parsebody > .BoundaryError: multipart message with no defined boundary > ----------end snip---------- Are you using the binary, or source? If source, what version of Python? The message parses fine for me, although I can see that it's malformed. If a lot of messages with a particular malformation arrive (like the recent spate of ones that generated TypeErrors) then we can add in code to deal with them, but if there are just a few it's not really worth it. In the longer term we'll be using the newer Python email package which handles all malformed mail much nicer, and that should eliminate almost all these problems (we'll build the binaries with it, and source users can update to it, or we might possibly bundle it). It's not really worth duplicating Barry/Anthony's work there to fix all the problems here (since we do at least catch the error rather than die - so you could treat all messages with a "X-SpamBayes-Exception" header as unsure). =Tony Meyer From ybl at cybertek.co.kr Wed May 26 21:27:46 2004 From: ybl at cybertek.co.kr (Lora Mejia) Date: Wed May 26 20:32:58 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SOMA - Viagra - Phentermine - Ultram - Ambien - Diflucan ...Free Overnight Fedex! Message-ID: Hi ;) how are you feeling today? 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From sony at ventnouveau.com.lb Wed May 26 23:20:24 2004 From: sony at ventnouveau.com.lb (Sung Dickens) Date: Wed May 26 22:26:34 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] please whisper in my ear Message-ID: Hi ;) how are you feeling today? I wanted to let you know about this new super hot meds website that offers hard to find meds .... at super low low prices They offer Xanaxx-Val1um-Vicod1n- Plus many more at super low cost! Do yourself a favour and save time and money Proceed here... http://www.cheerinfo.biz/qog345/104 Rmvv http://www.cheerinfo.biz/qog345/104/rf.html From VBCoder at iUpTown.com Wed May 26 22:28:04 2004 From: VBCoder at iUpTown.com (VBCoder) Date: Wed May 26 22:28:28 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] More Error Messages in log file? In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0248@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: Hi Tony, Thanks for your reply, I will be more patient in the future. I don't use a proxy that I know of. I have a local Firewall (Kerio 2.1) and a Hardware Firewall (a Linksys Router). I don't think that it is even getting to Kerio as I see not activity there. Outlook is setup as Internet only so there is no Exchange server involved, so they are all local. I have several rules that route all messages to folders in several different PSTs so there are no messages left in the Inbox. As I watch the Inbox activity, it appears that the messages there get a % assigned to them. I can't be sure as there are so many that I can see as things go by too fast. All message that arrive at the Spam and Unsure folders have a % assigned to them. The buttons do what I expect them to do, but I am not an expert user, so I can only say that they appear to go to the correct folder. Here is an example of clues for a message that my rules identified as Junk mail and sent the message to the Junk PST.Folder: Combined Score: 100% (1) Internal ham score (*H*): 3.33067e-016 Internal spam score (*S*): 1 # ham trained on: 5689 # spam trained on: 18310 I don't know what exactly this means, but I am guessing it is classified as Spam here. When I click the Delete as Spam button, it shows 100%. Thanks, Paul -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 6:53 PM To: 'VBCoder'; Spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] More Error Messages in log file? > I get this error message when I try to do a check for new > version? Error checking the latest version Traceback > (most recent call last): [...] > URLError: abort')> Do you connect through a proxy server? Do you use an 'automatic configuration script' to setup your proxy? If the latter, then we don't support this - it's a complex problem that isn't really worth the time solving (and it's shared by a lot of programs that need a network connection more than SpamBayes). > They just keep on coming. Here is one I get when I click on > the Delet as Spm button. Clicking the button still works as expected, though, right? (That's the case here). > This message arives in a folder and > the Spam field has nothing in it. 25% or so of the messages > I get have nothing in this feild. When it shows up in the > Spam folder after clicking on the button, it has a percentage > in the Spam field, even with these errors. I'm not sure if the lack of scores is related to this or not - it's possible. If the problem is connectivity to Exchange, though (Are you using Exchange?) then I'm not sure what we can do about it. Do messages in your inbox and spam folder always have the score added? Are all folders on Exchange, or some local? If you do a "show spam clues for this message" on one of the messages without a score, is it in the unsure range? [...] > msgstore.NotFoundException: NotFoundException: Exception 0x8004010f > (MAPI_E_NOT_FOUND): OLE error 0x8004010f I get these all the time, too, but they don't do any harm. If I had to guess, I'd say that I get them when Exchange is busy with something and SpamBayes tries to get information, but that's just a guess. This kb article seems to back up the guess, though: > Please let me know what I need to provide to resolve this > issue. I have no idea if this is a bug so I am reluctant to > report it as such until I am sure it is not my other > software. Every now and then I consider handling this error more nicely so that my log is cleaner, so if you want to open a bug report, that's fine. Even if it's not causing us any problems, we could clean up the error report. > If this is a bug, how to I create a clean log file > so there is not much other than the problem in it. I see > information in the logfile that I am not sure I want to sent > in a report. I am prety sure that it is not related to any problems. The log file is created each time you start Outlook, so you could close Outlook, open it again, trigger the problem, then copy the log. Or you can just open up the log, trim out any unnecessary information (preferably noting that you did so), and attach that. > Is there any reason why no one responded to my first post? Because you sent it less than 24 hours ago? You have to be patient around here - the answers come from a group of volunteers doing this in their spare time; they're also scattered around the world, which means that while you might expect people to be answering, they might be sleeping. Sometimes an answer will come back immediately (although this is typically a "give me more information" or "read this FAQ" answer), but it'll usually take a while. If you don't get anything after a couple of days, open a bug report (or support request) on sourceforge , and it'll definitely be dealt with at some point. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free(1). Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.690 / Virus Database: 451 - Release Date: 5/22/2004 From tim.one at comcast.net Wed May 26 22:38:11 2004 From: tim.one at comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Wed May 26 22:38:19 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] spam on the spambayes mailing list In-Reply-To: <40B54AFA.8020307@tgharold.com> Message-ID: [Thomas Harold] > (looks around for whoever's in charge) If you follow the link at the bottom of every msg on this (or any other Mailman) list: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes you'll find the list admin names at the bottom. I'm one of them here. > Is anything being done about the numerous spam e-mails that have been > posted to the list? The out-of-office announcements? The anti-virus > announcements? No, times 3. People need to discuss spam here, including examples. No filtering is applied to this list. > (e.g. only allowing submissions from subscribed e-mail addresses, That's hostile to one-shot questions from new users, which make up about half the legit traffic here. > or even switching to a moderated list) Are you volunteering to do the work of moderation? If so, and you're not wishfully underestimating the time it takes to do so, every day without fail, it can be your job. The current list admins can't make that commitment. > Wading through all this is a bit tiresome, especially since the mailing > list is for supporting anti-spam software. My personal spambayes filter weeds out virtually all spam from this list, so I'm not even aware of it most days. I'm desperately aware of it on the members-only lists I admin, where weeding out good from bad posts sucks away an increasingly resented part of each day. Even the private python-help list, which is lightly advertised (and which I help on, but do not admin) was reported to have about 1500 messages waiting for moderator approval earlier this week (any luck with those, Skip ?). From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu May 27 00:13:04 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu May 27 00:13:25 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] More Error Messages in log file? In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13068189CE@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C024C@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I don't use a proxy that I know of. I have a local Firewall > (Kerio 2.1) and a Hardware Firewall (a Linksys Router). I > don't think that it is even getting to Kerio as I see not > activity there. What's happening is that it's trying to retrieve a webpage (and uses the information from there to determine if there is a new version). Basically all the code is in the Python core Library, so is subject to the same limitations. If you'd like to figure out why it is (alternatively you can just subscribe to spambayes-announce, and get the same information pushed rather than pulled), then the best thing would be to install Python and try running a few commands. Let me know if you want to do this. > Outlook is setup as Internet only so there > is no Exchange server involved, so they are all local. That's interesting - I'd only found references to that error code in relation to Exchange. If we had the wrong store/entry id we could get this error, but if that was happening then a lot more should be failing. Have you tried running Outlook's Detect and Repair and using the scanpst tool on the PSTs? > I have several rules that route all messages to folders in > several different PSTs so there are no messages left in the > Inbox. As I watch the Inbox activity, it appears that the > messages there get a % assigned to them. I can't be sure as > there are so many that I can see as things go by too fast. > All message that arrive at the Spam and Unsure folders have a > % assigned to them. But in your original message you said: > This message arives in a folder and > the Spam field has nothing in it. So I'm not clear on what is happening here. Is the score missing at times, or not? > The buttons do what I expect them to do, > but I am not an expert user, so I can only say that they > appear to go to the correct folder. If they're getting to the folder, then the training has almost certainly succeeded, because that happens first. So everything works, and your only problem is that there are errors in the log? In that case, don't worry about it. This is not an important problem, and it is not interfering with the operation of the plug-in. If you really want the log to be clean, then open a bug report, but it's not going to effect anything. You don't *need* to look at the log, after all. > Here is an example of > clues for a message that my rules identified as Junk mail and > sent the message to the Junk PST.Folder: What I wanted was for you do do this with one of the messages that didn't have a score that had arrived in the unsure folder (as described in your original message). If the score (before training) was in the unsure range, then the problem was probably just that the score wasn't being saved. If the score was not in the unsure range, then the problem was probably in the scoring/message retrieval. However, it now appears that you don't have messages like this, so it doesn't matter. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From VBCoder at iUpTown.com Thu May 27 07:58:20 2004 From: VBCoder at iUpTown.com (VBCoder) Date: Thu May 27 07:58:46 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] More Error Messages in log file? In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C024C@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: Hi Tony, Auto Update, I think I know what the problem is for this one. I have my firewall set up to reject any port 80 traffic from outlook.exe. Because this product is running in outlooks address space, it is blocked. Could you provide me with the IP addresses and ports that need to be accessed and I will build a rule that allows them. Error Messages I think I am getting confused here. I am not sure if Spambayes or the rules I created get the message first, but I assume that Spambayes does. Assuming that, here is what I am seeing. I have several PSTs, each of them is a Category. In Each PST I have Folders and subfolders. There is one main Inbox that all mail gets delivered to. The rules eventually move all messages from the Inbox to folders in other PSTs. If I open the Inbox, I can see messages arrive in the Preview pain and can see % values in the Spam field. The messages are going through so fast, I can't determine if they all have % values in them. I can only say that some have the value. All messages that arrive in the Spam and/or Unsure folder have a % value in them. These Folders are in my Junk PST and is not the PST that has the Inbox that messages get delivered too. Many of the messages that get delivered to the other folders via my rules are the ones that do not have a % value in them The example I gave of a message that did not have a value was from my Junk Folder in the Junk PST. The Junk rules that are built into Outlook are the rules that put them there. I get messages without a % value in all of the folder/PST combinations, even folder in the PST that the Inbox is in. There is one thing that I have been playing with that seems to effect the number of messages that do not have the % value. The longer the delay in the Filter timer, the greater the number of messages that do not have % values. I have turned the filter timer off for now to see what that does. I can't find an explanation of what the different settings for that function does. I would like to understand what it is for, and why it is there. This may have something to do with this. I also suspect that the multiple PSTs might have a role to play in this too. I do run the repair tools at times but not lately. I will run that and see what happens. I am not having any other problems so I have not felt the need to run it. Paul -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of Tony Meyer Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 12:13 AM To: 'VBCoder'; Spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] More Error Messages in log file? > I don't use a proxy that I know of. I have a local Firewall > (Kerio 2.1) and a Hardware Firewall (a Linksys Router). I > don't think that it is even getting to Kerio as I see not > activity there. What's happening is that it's trying to retrieve a webpage (and uses the information from there to determine if there is a new version). Basically all the code is in the Python core Library, so is subject to the same limitations. If you'd like to figure out why it is (alternatively you can just subscribe to spambayes-announce, and get the same information pushed rather than pulled), then the best thing would be to install Python and try running a few commands. Let me know if you want to do this. > Outlook is setup as Internet only so there > is no Exchange server involved, so they are all local. That's interesting - I'd only found references to that error code in relation to Exchange. If we had the wrong store/entry id we could get this error, but if that was happening then a lot more should be failing. Have you tried running Outlook's Detect and Repair and using the scanpst tool on the PSTs? > I have several rules that route all messages to folders in > several different PSTs so there are no messages left in the > Inbox. As I watch the Inbox activity, it appears that the > messages there get a % assigned to them. I can't be sure as > there are so many that I can see as things go by too fast. > All message that arrive at the Spam and Unsure folders have a > % assigned to them. But in your original message you said: > This message arives in a folder and > the Spam field has nothing in it. So I'm not clear on what is happening here. Is the score missing at times, or not? > The buttons do what I expect them to do, > but I am not an expert user, so I can only say that they > appear to go to the correct folder. If they're getting to the folder, then the training has almost certainly succeeded, because that happens first. So everything works, and your only problem is that there are errors in the log? In that case, don't worry about it. This is not an important problem, and it is not interfering with the operation of the plug-in. If you really want the log to be clean, then open a bug report, but it's not going to effect anything. You don't *need* to look at the log, after all. > Here is an example of > clues for a message that my rules identified as Junk mail and > sent the message to the Junk PST.Folder: What I wanted was for you do do this with one of the messages that didn't have a score that had arrived in the unsure folder (as described in your original message). If the score (before training) was in the unsure range, then the problem was probably just that the score wasn't being saved. If the score was not in the unsure range, then the problem was probably in the scoring/message retrieval. However, it now appears that you don't have messages like this, so it doesn't matter. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free(1). Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.690 / Virus Database: 451 - Release Date: 5/22/2004 From neel at mediapulse.com Thu May 27 09:06:09 2004 From: neel at mediapulse.com (Michael C. Neel) Date: Thu May 27 09:05:54 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] spam on the spambayes mailing list In-Reply-To: <40B54AFA.8020307@tgharold.com> References: <40B54AFA.8020307@tgharold.com> Message-ID: <1085663169.32147.10.camel@mike.mediapulse.com> > Wading through all this is a bit tiresome, especially since the mailing > list is for supporting anti-spam software. It's a feature, I hear the next version of spambayes will be able to train itself, just by pointing it to the list archives =p Seriously though, I use spambayes on the list, and it clean it up so I never notice the spam, and I open lists are nice for people that want to make just one post and not subscribe - which is the case when people are installing for the first time. I think if you would block them, there would be a good about of bugs that you wouldn't hear about because making a report would involve too much effort and some people won't bother. 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Peik Windows BIS, MRI and ICE Development Unisys Roseville (MN) (651) 635-3464 / N2: 524-3464 -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 6:01 PM To: Peik, Richard A Cc: spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [spambayes-dev] SpamBayes at message-set boundary [Please note that the spambayes-dev mailing list is for discussion about the development of spambayes, not for bug reports or requests for help. Those should either be directed to the spambayes@python.org mailing list, or entered via the sourceforge system at . See for more details.] Noted. I used the only contact point we had been provided here at Unisys. ... Could you please: * Tell us which SpamBayes application you are using. It sounds like the Outlook plug-in, but we need to know for sure. Outlook 2000 plug-in * Tell us which version of SpamBayes you are using. If it's not the latest (1.0rc1), then please try the latest, as the problem you are reporting may have already been fixed. 1.0rc1; Unisys says that the latest it has tested and offers for download is 1.0a9 (? whatever the numbering styles mean). ... =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), >>>and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes.<<< Sorry - I'm not clear how to avoid this yet respond to your requests for clarification. Is it spambayes@python.org alone - or one of websites you note above - you wanted me to reply-to? This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. Thanks again, Dick From art at musiciansrep.com Thu May 27 13:15:59 2004 From: art at musiciansrep.com (Art Cataline) Date: Thu May 27 13:16:14 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Where is my "spam" and "suspect" file Message-ID: <000e01c4440e$4aec7d60$6401a8c0@cvoart> Hi running XP pro, Outlook 2002, Cant find my spam folder, but need to because some good messages got in there by mistake. Were is my spam folder, I cannot locate it even in a search. Thanks, Art -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040527/1f634221/attachment.html From david at davidfiedler.com Thu May 27 20:11:16 2004 From: david at davidfiedler.com (David Fiedler) Date: Thu May 27 20:11:29 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Web interface crashes; Old Hammie.db not used; but it still works! Message-ID: <6.1.1.1.2.20040527165412.029dbe18@davidfiedler.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040527/c80da434/attachment.html From translogik at hotmail.com Thu May 27 20:49:23 2004 From: translogik at hotmail.com (Glenn H) Date: Thu May 27 20:49:21 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Contacts whitelist Message-ID: Hey. Great plugin! A quick suggestion that you may or may not have thought of... it would be good to have an option to treat all of the user's Outlook contacts as a whitelist, so any mail from these sources would be treated as ham, not spam. It would have to be optional, of course, and probably off by default. But this would remove a lot of the false positives, since there'd be no need to check mail from trusted sources. I've already had a few false positives from people I know, and that's after training the system with thousands of existing e-mails just a few days ago. Oh, and it would need to check all 3 of the contact e-mail fields, since these days many people have more than one address. Just a thought! Glenn :-) Enigma Records - http://www.enigmarecords.com.au Translogik Software Pty Ltd - http://www.translogik.com _________________________________________________________________ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page – FREE download! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ From hanxue at gawab.com Fri May 28 09:09:20 2004 From: hanxue at gawab.com (Lee Hanxue) Date: Thu May 27 21:05:37 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <40B5FFB4.000006.27511@oemcomputer> References: <40B5FFB4.000006.27511@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <20040528090920.07ceb7c6@knoppix> Yup, it should not be a problem. As long as Incredimail supports POP and/or IMAP (which I think it does), then it can talk to Spam bayes. Basically Spam Bayes sits between Incredimail and your mail server, and 'marks' messasges as spam/ham/unsure. Hanxue On Thu, 27 May 2004 09:48:20 -0500 (Central Daylight Time) "Bonnie" wrote: > Hi I am using Incredimail as my mail program. Can I use your Spambayes with > incredimail. > > Bonnie > babbott@autobahn.mb.ca From hanxue at gawab.com Fri May 28 09:12:25 2004 From: hanxue at gawab.com (Lee Hanxue) Date: Thu May 27 21:45:24 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Contacts whitelist In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040528091225.14e783a6@knoppix> On Fri, 28 May 2004 00:49:23 +0000 "Glenn H" wrote: > A quick suggestion that you may or may not have thought of... it would be > good to have an option to treat all of the user's Outlook contacts as a > whitelist, so any mail from these sources would be treated as ham, not spam. I beg to differ. Worms these days can pretend to be sending email from someone you know. So far, I have not received any false positives for emails from friends. From translogik at hotmail.com Thu May 27 22:03:05 2004 From: translogik at hotmail.com (Glenn H) Date: Thu May 27 22:03:03 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Contacts whitelist Message-ID: I guess that's a good point... but as I said, it would be optional, and should probably be turned off by default. Also you may not have had any false positives for e-mails from friends (which is great!), but it certainly happens because I've seen it with my own eyes :-P Also I didn't realise that the program had been designed to catch worms as well as spam, but I guess the line between the two is blurring as time goes on... I should also point out, though, that the false positives I speak of were going into the "Suspects" folder, so it's not a total disaster, but a white list would prevent this from ever happening at all (for trusted sources). Anyway, it was just a suggestion that I'd find very useful... I think an optional white list would be quite handy. You can take it or leave it! Your point is certainly taken, though... Glenn :-) Enigma Records - http://www.enigmarecords.com.au Translogik Software Pty Ltd - http://www.translogik.com ----Original Message Follows---- From: Lee Hanxue To: "Glenn H" CC: spambayes@python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Contacts whitelist Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 09:12:25 -0400 On Fri, 28 May 2004 00:49:23 +0000 "Glenn H" wrote: > A quick suggestion that you may or may not have thought of... it would be > good to have an option to treat all of the user's Outlook contacts as a > whitelist, so any mail from these sources would be treated as ham, not spam. I beg to differ. Worms these days can pretend to be sending email from someone you know. So far, I have not received any false positives for emails from friends. _________________________________________________________________ Stop worrying about overloading your inbox - get MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200362ave/direct/01/ From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri May 28 01:22:36 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri May 28 01:24:16 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Contacts whitelist In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306818C76@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0253@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > A quick suggestion that you may or may not have thought of... > it would be good to have an option to treat all of the > user's Outlook contacts as a whitelist, so any mail from > these sources would be treated as ham, not spam. FAQ 6.6 talks about (in length) why this is not part of SpamBayes (yet, maybe). In a nutshell a lot of people would like this feature, although a lot of other people think it would be worthless (or worse than), and the developers sit in the second camp. Even this wouldn't necessarily mean that it didn't get added, except that it's complicated to do (the FAQ goes into detail). If someone ever steps up and does the work to implement it, then it's unlikely that it would get refused, but until then, it'll sit on the list of requests. Thanks for the suggestion, though - be sure to let us know if you have others. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri May 28 01:24:32 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri May 28 01:24:42 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Where is my "spam" and "suspect" file In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306818B8C@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677EB9@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Were is my spam folder, I cannot locate it even in a search. The simplest way to figure out where it is, is to use the interface that lets you select it. Choose "SpamBayes Manager" from the SpamBayes button on the toolbar and click the "Filtering" tab. It'll have the name of the folder (which might not be enough), but if you click the "Browse" button, you'll get the dialog letting you choose a different folder. This will open to the existing one, which will let you see where it is in the Outlook hierarchy. (The same technique applies to both folders). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri May 28 01:35:22 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri May 28 01:35:55 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Yes, I have read your Help File..and gone on your website tolook at FAQs, etc. In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306818B1B@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0254@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I have a user who is too fast with his clicking > before reading. He wanted to delete emails in his > Junk Suspects folder, but ended up somehow deleting all > the contents. I've read instructions and tried to restore > the archive folder, but it doesn't seem to contain any > mail that was in Spambayes. > > Is there anyway I can reclaim his lost email, as it > was not supposed to be marked as spam. Was this mail: (a) Moved to the "Deleted Items" folder (b) Deleted by Outlook (c) Moved & trained by SpamBayes via the "Delete as Spam" button? (There are too many meanings of 'delete' in Outlook!). If it's (a), then you can simply move it out of there. If it's (b) (i.e. it was moved to "Deleted Items" and that folder was emptied, or (eg) they held down shift and permanently deleted it), then it's gone for good, AFAIK. If it's (c), then it's not deleted at all, despite the name of the button, and you can find it in the designated Spam folder (the "Filtering" tab of the SpamBayes Manager dialog will tell you which folder that is). If this is the case, then you can just open up that folder, select the inadvertently moved messages and click the "Recover from Spam" button and the training will be corrected and the messages moved back to their original folder (if possible) or the main Inbox (if not). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri May 28 01:55:36 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri May 28 01:55:47 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: 'SpamBayes fails to filter most-recent message at Outlook startup' - responses to requests for clarification In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306818B63@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0255@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > The Subject-ed above problem does indeed appear (2 cycles) > to have been corrected in 1.0rc1, though as noted below it > was not part of FAQs. The FAQ only covers questions that appear here on this list all the time. The release notes for each version describe the (major) problems that have been fixed. These notes are accessible via the download page (click on the title, e.g. "1.0rc1", although that's hard to see unless you read carefully, and also mentioned in the announcement that gets made (to, e.g., spambayes-announce@python.org). In any case, asking here doesn't hurt, and if enough people do, it'll just be made a new FAQ. [posting to spambayes-dev] > Noted. I used the only contact point we had been provided > here at Unisys. Can I ask who provided the contact point? (Just so that I can let them know what the appropriate methods are). You can tell me this offlist, if you'd rather. > 1.0rc1; Unisys says that the latest it has tested and offers > for download is 1.0a9 (? whatever the numbering styles mean). The development goes through various stages - alpha, then beta, then final (each stage is more thoroughly polished and tested - adding features and the like tends to be pre-alpha, or alpha, rather than later on). The "a" or "b" in the versions stands for "alpha" or "beta", and if there's more than one (eg) alpha, then there'll be a1, a2, and so on. Each time one of these is put out, there are also "release candidates" - basically these will be exactly like the final version, and are just to shake out any problems in packaging. Since the 1.0 (final) release is a big deal, the "release candidate", or 1.0rc1, version is more widely available than normal. After 1.0 comes out, you should upgrade to that, and then you can probably ignore any version that has a letter after it, unless you need/want to be on the bleeding edge (or you encounter a serious bug that doesn't effect many other people, and so need a version that fixes it). SpamBayes has gone through more development (and so alpha and beta versions) than a lot of software does before getting to the initial 1.0 version, which is why so many people are using these "pre release" versions. I gather that someone at unisys is taking care of testing each version and making it available for people there (which is absolutely fine by us). Presumably they'll get the 1.0 version when it comes out (and it doesn't appear that the plug-in will be changing between 1.0rc1 and 1.0), test it, and let you know that they're happy for you to use that. [my signature about reply-all'ing] > Sorry - I'm not clear how to avoid this yet respond to your > requests for clarification. Is it spambayes@python.org alone > - or one of websites you note above - you wanted me to reply-to? Sorry - that just means that any replies should be sent to me (tameyer@ihug.co.nz) *and* to the list (spambayes@python.org), which is exactly what you did. Typically this is done with the "reply all" action. Often people just reply to me, so it never goes to the list, which isn't so good (takes longer to get a response, isn't archived, doesn't get help from anyone else, and so on). =Tony Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri May 28 02:02:10 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri May 28 02:02:28 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Web interface crashes; Old Hammie.db not used; but it still works! In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306818C68@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0256@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> [...] > File > "/usr/local/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/storage.py", > line 140, in store > fp = open(self.db_name, 'wb') > > IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '' > > I'm running this on a Red Hat Linux 7.2 box. Everything > worked fine in SB a9. This problem started in the beta, but > I bit my tongue until the next release came out, and now it's > happening in RC1 also. It's fine to let us know when a new version breaks something that worked in the old one - otherwise we may never know about it, and it's more than likely that it'll persist into future ones. [...] > Oh yes, here's my ini file, at least the relevant part: [...] > #persistent_use_database:pickle > persistent_storage_file=/var/install/spambayes/hammie.db > messageinfo_storage_file=/var/install/spambayes/messageinfo.db I'm guessing that what's happening is that it's not finding the ini file at all. The error message says that the problem occurred at line 140 of storage.py, which handles storing when persistent_use_database *is* pickle, and you've commented that line out, so if it was going off this config file, it'd never get to that line. However, pickle isn't the default, so presumably it *is* picking up some other config file. On Linux it looks for anything specified in the BAYSECUSTOMIZE environment variable, then for a "bayescustomize.ini" file in the current directory or a "~/.spambayesrc" file, and if those all fail, then uses (a new) bayescustomize.ini in the current directory. Could it be finding an old config file in one of these places? =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From angeltrax at mymail-info.net Fri May 28 04:31:00 2004 From: angeltrax at mymail-info.net (AngelTrax.com) Date: Fri May 28 04:34:48 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Now Available Wireless Cable TV System Message-ID: <200405280834.i4S8YWiw001561@mxzilla6.xs4all.nl> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040528/94fa5a12/attachment-0001.html From chuck at smtl.co.uk Fri May 28 05:31:16 2004 From: chuck at smtl.co.uk (Chuck Amadi) Date: Fri May 28 05:12:19 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] How to get the mailbox data form mboxutil.py Message-ID: <200405280931.i4S9VGgr010572@sevenofnine.smtl.co.uk> Im using mboxutils module: courtesy of : http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/spambayes/spambayes/spam bayes/mboxutils.py Snippet from Skip especially the getmbox() function. You'd use it like so: import mboxutils for msg in mboxutils.getmbox("/var/spool/mail/chucka"): print msg['subject'] I run the script but no MailBox results . What else must I do as I thought the print msg['subject'] would list all the mail box messages by Subject. Cheers Chuck From cottonwoodad at webtv.net Fri May 28 06:22:36 2004 From: cottonwoodad at webtv.net (Rosemary Maloney) Date: Fri May 28 06:17:57 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Aspects of ED that were S1qnIf1cantly Impr0ved by C1ALI^S & LEV1T^RA ? Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040528/ea10f103/attachment.html From calin at ajvar.org Fri May 28 07:48:05 2004 From: calin at ajvar.org (Calin A. Culianu) Date: Fri May 28 06:49:43 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Now Available Wireless Cable TV System In-Reply-To: <200405280834.i4S8YWiw001561@mxzilla6.xs4all.nl> References: <200405280834.i4S8YWiw001561@mxzilla6.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: I find it ironic that on this mailing list, there is so much spam. Don't you? -Calin On Fri, 28 May 2004, AngelTrax.com wrote: [NON-Text Body part not included] From ntrevisa at dsi.unive.it Fri May 28 08:56:56 2004 From: ntrevisa at dsi.unive.it (Nicola Trevisan) Date: Fri May 28 08:57:01 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with SpamBayes service Message-ID: <000501c444b3$4273da20$0401a8c0@portatile> Hi, I can't start my SpamBayes service, he immediately shoot down. I have win XP. I think this is error there is because I tell the program a bad POP port. I think I must uninstall all the program. I try, but when I reinstall the program there is the same problem. So I think I not clear some file. Can you tell me what file I must delete?? Thank you very much. Nicola Trevisan From Harold.Vandeventer at dpra.com Fri May 28 09:28:20 2004 From: Harold.Vandeventer at dpra.com (Harold Vandeventer) Date: Fri May 28 09:29:12 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Contacts whitelist Message-ID: <710C39AC5BC90648B3CA31DC47D11116015EAA09@mhk02.ad.dpra.com> I agree with the developers on this issue: don't use a whitelist concept. SpamBayes as currently designed is properly sending mail to the Spam folder that has MY name in the From property. It took about 3 of them, in Junk Suspects, to be trained via "delete as spam" and the problem has been resolved. Upon looking at the headers on those messages, they are coming in from servers in Europe it appears. My vote: no "list" concepts, white or black. ____________________________________ Harold Vandeventer Network Administrator DPRA Incorporated 200 Research Dr Manhattan, KS 66503 Voice: (785) 539-3565 ext 1026 FAX: (785) 537-0272 -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 12:23 AM To: 'Glenn H'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Contacts whitelist > A quick suggestion that you may or may not have thought of... > it would be good to have an option to treat all of the > user's Outlook contacts as a whitelist, so any mail from > these sources would be treated as ham, not spam. FAQ 6.6 talks about (in length) why this is not part of SpamBayes (yet, maybe). In a nutshell a lot of people would like this feature, although a lot of other people think it would be worthless (or worse than), and the developers sit in the second camp. Even this wouldn't necessarily mean that it didn't get added, except that it's complicated to do (the FAQ goes into detail). If someone ever steps up and does the work to implement it, then it's unlikely that it would get refused, but until then, it'll sit on the list of requests. Thanks for the suggestion, though - be sure to let us know if you have others. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From sflemming at americanbehavioral.com Fri May 28 09:32:40 2004 From: sflemming at americanbehavioral.com (Scott Flemming) Date: Fri May 28 09:34:38 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] list Message-ID: <4DDBBC2B4D2A074A8FCE294CB7D477D6216BEE@ami00001.americanbehavioral.com> I just watched as this program deleted a personal e-mail I was expecting from a reliable source. How do I get the program to not do this? From tim.one at comcast.net Fri May 28 10:11:47 2004 From: tim.one at comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Fri May 28 10:11:57 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] list In-Reply-To: <4DDBBC2B4D2A074A8FCE294CB7D477D6216BEE@ami00001.americanbehavioral.com> Message-ID: [Scott Flemming] > I just watched as this program deleted a personal e-mail I was expecting > from a reliable source. Assuming you're talking about some version of SpamBayes, no, no version of SpamBayes ever deletes email. Depending on which version you're using, at worst it may have moved that email into the Unsure or Spam folder you configured. > How do I get the program to not do this? SpamBayes decisions are based entirely on what you train it on. When a message you want is classified as spam, it's important to train on that message as ham. Training is the only way SpamBayes learns. Again, how you do this training depends on the version of SpamBayes you're using (pop3proxy, Outlook addin, ..., you didn't say). You might also profit from reading the FAQ entry on whitelists: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From jepler at unpythonic.net Fri May 28 11:23:27 2004 From: jepler at unpythonic.net (Jeff Epler) Date: Fri May 28 11:23:57 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Now Available Wireless Cable TV System In-Reply-To: References: <200405280834.i4S8YWiw001561@mxzilla6.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <20040528152327.GE7100@unpythonic.net> On Fri, May 28, 2004 at 06:48:05AM -0500, Calin A. Culianu wrote: > I find it ironic that on this mailing list, there is so much spam. Don't > you? http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#why-does-the-spambayes-python-org-mailing-list-get-spam Jeff From waring1 at optonline.net Fri May 28 12:25:33 2004 From: waring1 at optonline.net (Waring Abbott) Date: Fri May 28 12:25:39 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] lost my junk suspects folder... Message-ID: <00ad01c444d0$66b8cd10$6901a8c0@pentlwa> Running winxp, latest (as of yesterday) version of SpamBayes, latest Outlook/Explorer. Everything has been going ok until recently when I noticed that my "Junk Suspects" folder no longer seems to exist. Went into SB to see if it was still directing suspects there, and indeed it was. Only where is the folder? Is there any way to "see" the actual path that SB is really using with junk suspects? Thanks, Waring Abbott (845) 477-7363 FAX (845) 477-8338 PO Box 1256 - 15 Cox Drive Greenwood Lake NY 10925 wa@waringabbott.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040528/b828abbd/attachment.html From rweir at northwestern.edu Fri May 28 13:36:29 2004 From: rweir at northwestern.edu (Richard F. ff. Weir, Ph.D.) Date: Fri May 28 13:26:14 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Proxy Server Hangs up IE Message-ID: <000201c444da$5fb65280$7f977ca5@misefein> Hi I downloaded the Windows installer for Spambayes and installed the Spambayes proxy server as I use Outlook Express for my e-mail. I run the software on a Dell Inspiron 8000 laptop running Windows 2000 SP4 and IE 6 with all the latest updates etc. I also run IE 6 inconjunction with 3rd party software called cookiePal to isolate unwanted cookies. Anyway I have found that clicking on the system tray icon of Spambayes to review e-mails for training fails to load. and IE 6 locks up and I have to use the task manager to kill the program but the system never recovers from this and I have to use the on/off button to restart my machine. This has now happened sufficiently often that I am confident that Spambayes is the problem (never had this problem before only occurs when I try to look at the localhost/8880 webpages). I have found that opening IE 6 first and then going to localhost/8880 home page first and then into the review page allows me to train on messages sometimes. It would be great if this could be sorted out because the program itself seems to be doing a could job of catching my spam. However, the hassle factor with having to power off my system everytime I try to train is fast becoming tedious to say the least. Hope this helps Richard _____________________________________________________________________________________ Richard F. ff. Weir, Ph.D. Research Scientist VA Chicago Health Care System Research Assistant Professor Department of Physical Medicine & Rehabilitation Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine & Biomedical Engineering Department Northwestern University McCormick School of Engineering & Applied Science Biomedical Engineer Northwestern University Rehabilitation Engineering Research Center & Prosthetic Research Laboratory 345 E. Superior, RM1441 Chicago, Illinois 60611 USA TEL: +1 (312) 238-6512 TEL: +1 (312) 238-6500 Office FAX: +1 (312) 238-6510 E-mail: rweir@northwestern.edu URL: http://pubweb.northwestern.edu/~rfw586 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040528/26150094/attachment.html From walter at gorlitz.ca Fri May 28 14:54:52 2004 From: walter at gorlitz.ca (Walter =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=F6rlitz?=) Date: Fri May 28 14:55:08 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Contacts whitelist In-Reply-To: <20040528091225.14e783a6@knoppix> References: <20040528091225.14e783a6@knoppix> Message-ID: <6.1.0.6.0.20040528114126.01abcdd0@localhost> At 06:12 AM 2004-05-28, you wrote: >On Fri, 28 May 2004 00:49:23 +0000 >"Glenn H" wrote: > > > A quick suggestion that you may or may not have thought of... it would be > > good to have an option to treat all of the user's Outlook contacts as a > > whitelist, so any mail from these sources would be treated as ham, not > spam. > >I beg to differ. Worms well a worm is not technically a SPAM message and that's the problem. People classify all unwanted mail as SPAM when the original connotation was unsolicited commercial mail. Also, worms by definition do not use e-mail as means of propagation, they work their way behind the scenes and use weaknesses in the system to propagate. Trojans are applications that masquerade as one thing and are actually a piece of malicious code. That is what this current class of viruses are: Trojans, despite Symantec using "mass-replicating worm" as a term for the Beagle variants, they're really mass-replicating trojans. Now that we have an understanding of this... >these days can pretend to be sending email from someone you know. > >So far, I have not received any false positives for emails from friends. If you're using SpamBayes to filter out all unwanted mail, not just SPAM, you may get too many false negatives, but that's up to you. From tim.one at comcast.net Fri May 28 15:29:40 2004 From: tim.one at comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Fri May 28 15:29:56 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Contacts whitelist In-Reply-To: <6.1.0.6.0.20040528114126.01abcdd0@localhost> Message-ID: [Walter G?rlitz] > well a worm is not technically a SPAM message and that's the problem. > People classify all unwanted mail as SPAM when the original connotation > was unsolicited commercial mail. SpamBayes has no inherent definition of spam: all tokens start out at a neutral 0.5 in this code, and all ideas about what "spam" and "ham" mean come from the training you give it. If news about Java is spam to you, or viruses are ham to you, fine -- the classification engine has no beliefs of its own. That said, I believe there are more *effective* ways to catch virus email than with this system. SpamBayes looks at email content, with all features treated the same (equal weight), and typical virus email has fewer features *to* look at than typical UCE (unsolicited commercial email). Fewer features generally lead to more moderate scores (less evidence -> less confidence), so even blatant virus email can easily end up rated Unsure in this system. I'm surprised that it catches as much virus email as it does for me. ... >> So far, I have not received any false positives for emails from friends. > If you're using SpamBayes to filter out all unwanted mail, not just > SPAM, you may get too many false negatives, but that's up to you. The definition of spam in my personal classifier is "email Tim doesn't want to see", which includes spam, viruses, bounces from viruses forged to appear as if they came from me, and so on. I haven't noticed any problem with FN rate as a result, although msgs *appearing* to come from people I know rate Unsure more often than I'd like. That appears to be because there's been a huge increase over the last month in the rate of viruses appearing to come from people I know. One of those was FN near the end of last month, but that's it. From satiricpouring at btinternet.com Fri May 28 18:21:39 2004 From: satiricpouring at btinternet.com (Mikell Hendry) Date: Fri May 28 17:59:11 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] lowest pricing,money back g^uarantee! Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040528/32b54da9/attachment.html From xwdllehbbfl at mitkof.net Fri May 28 20:46:20 2004 From: xwdllehbbfl at mitkof.net (Luther Klock) Date: Fri May 28 19:46:35 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Message subject Message-ID: <493202061.nu88LzM2276211@textural02.calf13rtc-group.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and delete this communication from your computer. Thank you. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040529/7ac520bb/attachment.html From lists03 at pc9.org Sun May 30 00:52:15 2004 From: lists03 at pc9.org (Jem) Date: Sun May 30 00:51:44 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] 1.0rc1, modifies Received headers Message-ID: I just started using spambayes -- through the commandline sb_filter.py and sb_mboxtrain.py. So far, so good! I haven't used it long enough to see how quickly it learns how accurate it becomes. But I noticed that it modifies Received headers, thusly: < Received: from c-24-98-224-113.atl.client2.attbi.com (c-24-98-224- 113.atl.client2.attbi.com [24.98.224.113]) --- > Received: from c-24-98-224-113.atl.client2.attbi.com > (c-24-98-224-113.atl.client2.attbi.com [24.98.224.113]) No information is lost; it's just wrapping after the long host name but this seems to me a rather strange thing to modify. Is there any way to get spambayes to leave this alone? It has the potential of confusing other things that try to parse Received headers. I would think, best left alone unless there is a particular reason to change anything in the original message (as a general policy). From tim.one at comcast.net Sun May 30 02:58:09 2004 From: tim.one at comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Sun May 30 02:58:18 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] 1.0rc1, modifies Received headers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [Jem] > I just started using spambayes -- through the commandline sb_filter.py > and sb_mboxtrain.py. So far, so good! I haven't used it long enough to > see how quickly it learns how accurate it becomes. > > But I noticed that it modifies Received headers, thusly: [long header line broken up] > No information is lost; it's just wrapping after the long host name but > this seems to me a rather strange thing to modify. Is there any way to > get spambayes to leave this alone? It has the potential of confusing > other things that try to parse Received headers. It shouldn't, unless toy software is used to parse. RFC 2822 defines the format of header lines: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2822.html and the way the long Received line was broken up conforms to the standard. The reason Python's email package breaks it is that RFC 2822 says (in part): There are two limits that this standard places on the number of characters in a line. Each line of characters MUST be no more than 998 characters, and SHOULD be no more than 78 characters, excluding the CRLF. They're talking about physical lines there, not logical lines, and (like most others) a Received header is a single logical line that can span any number of physical lines. Whoever produced the long Received line originally wasn't following the standard's recommendation, and Python's email package repairs that as a matter of course. > I would think, best left alone unless there is a particular reason to > change anything in the original message (as a general policy). I don't think we're *trying* to change anything. But the parsing tools we use do rewrite things, according to the relevant standards' recommendations, in semantically neutral ways. From lists03 at pc9.org Sun May 30 03:34:56 2004 From: lists03 at pc9.org (Jem) Date: Sun May 30 03:34:22 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] 1.0rc1, modifies Received headers In-Reply-To: <20040530065814.ABD23A9E6@mail.pc9.org> References: <20040530065814.ABD23A9E6@mail.pc9.org> Message-ID: > http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2822.html > > and the way the long Received line was broken up conforms to the > standard. The reason Python's email package breaks it is that RFC 2822 > says (in part): > There are two limits that this standard places on the number of > characters in a line. Each line of characters MUST be no more than > 998 characters, and SHOULD be no more than 78 characters, excluding > the CRLF. OK, it appears to not be a problem them. But since Postfix wrote the headers originally, I was used to seeing them like that. > Whoever produced the long Received line originally wasn't following the > standard's recommendation, and Python's email package repairs that as a > matter of course. Hmm, this ties into what I'm going to say below... > I don't think we're *trying* to change anything. But the parsing tools > we use do rewrite things, according to the relevant standards' > recommendations, in semantically neutral ways. I know Spambayes does a lot as it is a rather complete filtering system, but one recommendation I would have to help the UNIX/procmail/scripting applications would be to (maybe via an extra sb_filter.py option) tell spambayes to do _minimal_ work -- just output a score, instead of operating on files or modifying and outputing entire messages with headers added. spamprobe (another wonderful Bayesian filter) takes this approach and there are advantages for modularity. Acquiring a spam-state score need not modify the message in any way. Having the score stored in a variable also proves to be more fault-tolerant in the longrun; even if the filter fails somehow, perhaps due to misconfiguration, you just have a blank score instead of an entire missing email! So although modifying the Received headers isn't wrong, I just can't help but feel it's unnecessary. It would be nice to be able to output just a score, without modifying the message. From luc.leuzinger at terra.com.br Sun May 30 07:18:42 2004 From: luc.leuzinger at terra.com.br (Lucas Leuzinger) Date: Sun May 30 07:18:55 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes hanging References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677E70@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <000c01c44637$e40cb480$5a0d500a@pan> Hi, when I start my system (Win98 SE), Spambayes works perfectly ...but after some time (30 min. or more) OE 6 can?t connect to the servers, giving a 0x800CCC15 error. If I bypass localserver and connect directly then everything is working. Last log: Loading database... Listener on port 110 is proxying pop.rio.terra.com.br:110 User interface url is http://localhost:8880/ Can't connect to pop.rio.terra.com.br:110: 10055 Can't connect to pop.rio.terra.com.br:110: 10055 Using Win98 SE, Outlook Express 6 and AVG free antivirus (always updated) and Easyband satelite connection. Error report (in portuguese): Erro de TCP/IP durante a tentativa de conex?o com o servidor. Conta: 'pop.rio.terra.com.br', Servidor: '127.0.0.1', Protocolo: POP3, Porta: 110, Segura (SSL): N?o, N? do erro: 0x800CCC15 Thanks a lot for your attention, Lucas. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.692 / Virus Database: 453 - Release Date: 28/05/04 From jepler at unpythonic.net Sun May 30 10:26:07 2004 From: jepler at unpythonic.net (Jeff Epler) Date: Sun May 30 10:26:34 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes hanging In-Reply-To: <000c01c44637$e40cb480$5a0d500a@pan> References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677E70@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> <000c01c44637$e40cb480$5a0d500a@pan> Message-ID: <20040530142605.GA21949@unpythonic.net> Let me preface this message by saying that I don't use spambayes on windows. I did a few web searches and 10055 and 0x800CCC15 seem to be Windows error codes which correspond to errors connecting to the given host. Is it possible that "personal firewall" software prevents the spambayes software from connecting to your POP server? Jeff -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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These aren't > necessarily the tokens with the highest spamprobs! For most people, who do > some form of mistake-based training, the tokens with the highest spamprobs > are merely those that got *trained* on most often. > What this shows is what I already knew : most of the Unsures I train > on as spam are autoreply or bounce kinds of messages, due to virus and spam > email forged to appear as if it came from one of the public admin and help > addresses I volunteer for, or from one of my personal addresses. I get a > ton of these, and they're spam to me. A fascinating analysis, Tim... and it does suggest to me that there is useful information in the spam database... but a human will always have to make sense of the top and bottom 10% spamprobs. In my case, I'm receiving a huge quantity of spam on "mail.well.com". I'm guessing that spammers, at one time or another, have tried every legal e-mail address on this server in order to find mine. Same thing on an old college e-mail forwarding account, which I never use. So SpamBayes helped me find this source of spam, which is highly specific to my personal e-mail situation. jwb From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun May 30 23:25:40 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun May 30 23:25:55 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] How to get the mailbox data form mboxutil.py In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306818D23@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C025C@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > import mboxutils > for msg in mboxutils.getmbox("/var/spool/mail/chucka"): > print msg['subject'] > > I run the script but no MailBox results . What else must I do > as I thought the print msg['subject'] would list all the mail > box messages by Subject. Do you get any error, or does the script simply complete without printing anything? Try putting something else in the loop ("print 'here'" or "print msg" or something like that), to see if the loop is going through any iterations at all. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun May 30 23:27:53 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun May 30 23:28:02 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with SpamBayes service In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306818D27@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677EC8@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I try, but when I reinstall the program there is the same > problem. So I think I not clear some file. Can you tell me > what file I must delete?? Uninstalling does not (deliberately) remove your configuration or training. By default, with Windows, your configuration file will be called bayescustomize.ini and be in your 'Application Data' directory - probably 'C:\Documents and Settings\{username}\Application Data\SpamBayes\Proxy'. You could either delete that file, or edit it, and that might solve the problem. Otherwise, the troubleshooting guide explains how to find your log files, and they should have specifics about what is going wrong. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From anthony at interlink.com.au Mon May 31 00:03:08 2004 From: anthony at interlink.com.au (Anthony Baxter) Date: Mon May 31 00:03:34 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] 1.0rc1, modifies Received headers In-Reply-To: References: <20040530065814.ABD23A9E6@mail.pc9.org> Message-ID: <40BAAE7C.8050608@interlink.com.au> > So although modifying the Received headers isn't wrong, I just can't help > but feel it's unnecessary. It would be nice to be able to output just a > score, without modifying the message. At the moment, Python's email package needs to read in and parse the message, then write it out again with new (spam) headers. The email package (correctly, imho) takes the view that _any_ message emitted should be correct MIME, even if this means it's not the same as the message that was sent into the email Parser. email 3.0, coming as part of Python 2.4, goes even further in this regard. It's really _really_ not a useful expenditure of time to write a separate email Parser for SB - particularly since 3.0 has a completely rewritten Parser that's designed to not fail. If it's a concern to you, it would not be a lot of work to write a new frontend for SB that sent the message into the tokeniser/classifier, and then just emitted a score. Anthony -- Anthony Baxter It's never too late to have a happy childhood. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon May 31 02:32:30 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon May 31 02:32:45 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Proxy Server Hangs up IE In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306818E72@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C025F@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I downloaded the Windows installer for Spambayes > and installed the Spambayes proxy server as I use > Outlook Express for my e-mail. I run the software on > a Dell Inspiron 8000 laptop running Windows 2000 SP4 and > IE 6 with all the latest updates etc. [...] > Anyway I have found that clicking on the system tray > icon of Spambayes to review e-mails for training fails > to load. and IE 6 locks up and I have to use the task > manager to kill the program What happens if you try to go to when SpamBayes isn't running? (It should fail, but there's a slim chance that you have something else running on that port that's causing a conflict). If you run the "sb_server.exe" program (in the bin directory), rather than using the tray application, and go to , does that work? If you run "sb_server.exe -b", does that fail in the same way? What about running "sb_server.exe -u 8881 -b" and (if necessary) going to ? > but the system never recovers > from this and I have to use the on/off button to restart > my machine. What do you mean it never recovers? IE still doesn't work, or nothing works, or what? Have you checked to see if SpamBayes is still running (sbtray.exe IIRC), and tried force quitting that, too? > I have found that opening IE 6 first and then going > to localhost/8880 home page first and then into the > review page allows me to train on messages sometimes. What do you mean by "sometimes"? Is there any pattern to this that you can see? When this fails, does it fail in the same way as above, or in some other way? =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From lists03 at pc9.org Mon May 31 11:15:00 2004 From: lists03 at pc9.org (Jem) Date: Mon May 31 11:14:27 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] 1.0rc1, modifies Received headers In-Reply-To: <40BAAE7C.8050608@interlink.com.au> References: <20040530065814.ABD23A9E6@mail.pc9.org> <40BAAE7C.8050608@interlink.com.au> Message-ID: > At the moment, Python's email package needs to read in and parse the > message, then write it out again with new (spam) headers. The email > package (correctly, imho) takes the view that _any_ message emitted > should be correct MIME, even if this means it's not the same as the > message that was sent into the email Parser. email 3.0, coming as part > of Python 2.4, goes even further in this regard. OK, I didn't realize there was an entire email processor module in there (I'm not familiar with python). > It's really _really_ not a useful expenditure of time to write a > separate email Parser for SB - particularly since 3.0 has a completely > rewritten Parser that's designed to not fail. Not a problem, I've got a shell script that just sends it through to grep out the score lines anyway. Accomplishes what I need, and without any modification of spambayes :) From VBCoder at iUpTown.com Mon May 31 12:01:45 2004 From: VBCoder at iUpTown.com (VBCoder) Date: Mon May 31 12:02:15 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] More Error Messages in log file? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi again, I have run Detect and repair as you suggested and it did not make any difference. I am still not sure about how Spambayes works and can't find good answers in the FAQ. I am running WinME, Outlook 2K (Internet Only) 1). Does SpamBayes get control of the messages before any of my Rules? 2). Is it normal for a message to be processed by my Outlook rules and arrive in it's final destination (supposedly after being processed by SpamBayes and my Outlook rules) with the Spam field blank (no percentage)? If so, under what conditions could this happen? 3). What is the purpose of the Filter Timer? How does it work? Under what conditions should I use it? I am finding many messages that have no percentage in the Spam field yet a clues display will show a percent that is anywhere in the spectrum. Many are over the %90 Spam limit and should have been sent to the Spam folder. The messages that do arrive in the Spam and Unsure folders have a percent value and appear to be processed correctly. I am trying to find out if this is normal, if there is a setting that will change this behavior if not, and if it is a bug that needs to be reported. Please see the explanation in my last messages (below) for a more in depth descriptions of what I am seeing. Paul -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces+vbcoder=iuptown.com@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces+vbcoder=iuptown.com@python.org]On Behalf Of VBCoder Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 7:58 AM To: Spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] More Error Messages in log file? Error Messages I think I am getting confused here. I am not sure if Spambayes or the rules I created get the message first, but I assume that Spambayes does. Assuming that, here is what I am seeing. I have several PSTs, each of them is a Category. In Each PST I have Folders and subfolders. There is one main Inbox that all mail gets delivered to. The rules eventually move all messages from the Inbox to folders in other PSTs. If I open the Inbox, I can see messages arrive in the Preview pain and can see % values in the Spam field. The messages are going through so fast, I can't determine if they all have % values in them. I can only say that some have the value. All messages that arrive in the Spam and/or Unsure folder have a % value in them. These Folders are in my Junk PST and is not the PST that has the Inbox that messages get delivered too. Many of the messages that get delivered to the other folders via my rules are the ones that do not have a % value in them The example I gave of a message that did not have a value was from my Junk Folder in the Junk PST. The Junk rules that are built into Outlook are the rules that put them there. I get messages without a % value in all of the folder/PST combinations, even folder in the PST that the Inbox is in. There is one thing that I have been playing with that seems to effect the number of messages that do not have the % value. The longer the delay in the Filter timer, the greater the number of messages that do not have % values. I have turned the filter timer off for now to see what that does. I can't find an explanation of what the different settings for that function does. I would like to understand what it is for, and why it is there. This may have something to do with this. I also suspect that the multiple PSTs might have a role to play in this too. Paul From tim.one at comcast.net Mon May 31 14:42:23 2004 From: tim.one at comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Mon May 31 14:42:33 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] More Error Messages in log file? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [VBCoder, using Outlook 2K] ... > 1). Does SpamBayes get control of the messages before any of my Rules? This appears impossible to predict, varying by such things as system load, processor speed, how fast email is coming in, Outlook version, and phase of the moon. It's possible that Outlook will tell SpamBayes about a new message before your rules or after your rules, it's possible that this will change from message to message, and, if you have a rule that moves a msg from one watched (by SpamBayes) folder to another watched folder, it's possible that Outlook will tell SpamBayes about the message twice -- or not at all! The good news is that enabling "background filtering" (on the SpamBayes Manager's Advanced tab) pretty reliably results in Outlook rules running first. There's no known way to reliably get SpamBayes to run first. If you are a VB coder, SpamBayes learns about new messages via ItemAdd events on the watched folders. So the answer to all questions is "easy" at that level: SpamBayes sees a new message when, and only when, Outlook fires ItemAdd. Unfortunately, ItemAdd isn't reliable: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=249156 Outlook 2003 introduced a NewMailEx event which *may* be a reliable way (and a more efficient way) to learn about new messages, but it looks like that fires before rules (and, of course, isn't available before OL2003). > 2). Is it normal for a message to be processed by my Outlook rules and > arrive in it's final destination (supposedly after being processed by > SpamBayes and my Outlook rules) with the Spam field blank (no > percentage)? If so, under what conditions could this happen? You really have to ask Microsoft, and they won't answer you : the spam field is left blank if ItemAdd never told us about the new message, and only MS can say exactly when Outlook fails to fire ItemAdd. > 3). What is the purpose of the Filter Timer? How does it work? Under > what conditions should I use it? Read the code. You should use it if anything flaky is happening (like messages not get scored). > I am finding many messages that have no percentage in the Spam field yet > a clues display will show a percent that is anywhere in the spectrum. A clues display scores the message from scratch. It doesn't matter to Show Clues whether the message has been scored before, or, if the message was scored before, what soore it got at that time. Show Clues always recomputes everything from the current state of training. > Many are over the %90 Spam limit and should have been sent to the Spam > folder. "no percentage" means ItemAdd never told SpamBayes about the message. > The messages that do arrive in the Spam and Unsure folders have a > percent value and appear to be processed correctly. I am trying to find > out if this is normal, if there is a setting that will change this > behavior if not, and if it is a bug that needs to be reported. Turn on background filtering. ItemAdd may still miss some messages, but far fewer. From kenzo at access-one.com Mon May 31 16:00:46 2004 From: kenzo at access-one.com (jyh) Date: Mon May 31 16:09:25 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] If you want to stop working to make the boss of your company more money and become your own boss, then THIS is the answer! osxt Top full-time owners have earned $10, 000+ in one month Message-ID: <200405312009.i4VK94eA010439@mxzilla3.xs4all.nl> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative From VBCoder at iUpTown.com Mon May 31 16:23:08 2004 From: VBCoder at iUpTown.com (VBCoder) Date: Mon May 31 16:23:36 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] More Error Messages in log file? Message-ID: Hi Tim, It appears that all of the issues I am seeing are related to Spambayes not seeing a message before my Outlook rules. This brings me to the sad realization that SpamBayes is unusable in my environment. I had asked a question about the purpose of the Filter timer and you responded with "read the code". I don't have the code and I don't have the time or inclination to read the code. If I did, I would write the code instead. I don't know what language it is written in, I am guessing it is not one that I am conversant in like assembly or VB. A simple answer would have sufficed. Don't bother responding as it would make little difference as I am already looking for a product that will work in my environment. Hint: If you wrote the Outlook piece as a custom rule, I would have been able to put it first to insure it would always fire before my rules moved it. But I am sure you already thought of that. You last comment about turning on background filtering is not the answer. When turned on, almost all messages are missed (blank percent). This setting seems to insure that it is always fired after the Outlook rules, at least in OL2K. It is too bad that Spambayes will not work for me in my environment as it really looked promising. I did not want to use a proxy for one and I am not willing to change the other software I am currently using. Thanks for your time and input, Paul -----Original Message----- From: Tim Peters [mailto:tim.one@comcast.net] Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 2:42 PM To: 'VBCoder'; Spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] More Error Messages in log file? [VBCoder, using Outlook 2K] ... > 1). Does SpamBayes get control of the messages before any of my Rules? This appears impossible to predict, varying by such things as system load, processor speed, how fast email is coming in, Outlook version, and phase of the moon. It's possible that Outlook will tell SpamBayes about a new message before your rules or after your rules, it's possible that this will change from message to message, and, if you have a rule that moves a msg from one watched (by SpamBayes) folder to another watched folder, it's possible that Outlook will tell SpamBayes about the message twice -- or not at all! The good news is that enabling "background filtering" (on the SpamBayes Manager's Advanced tab) pretty reliably results in Outlook rules running first. There's no known way to reliably get SpamBayes to run first. If you are a VB coder, SpamBayes learns about new messages via ItemAdd events on the watched folders. So the answer to all questions is "easy" at that level: SpamBayes sees a new message when, and only when, Outlook fires ItemAdd. Unfortunately, ItemAdd isn't reliable: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=249156 Outlook 2003 introduced a NewMailEx event which *may* be a reliable way (and a more efficient way) to learn about new messages, but it looks like that fires before rules (and, of course, isn't available before OL2003). > 2). Is it normal for a message to be processed by my Outlook rules and > arrive in it's final destination (supposedly after being processed by > SpamBayes and my Outlook rules) with the Spam field blank (no > percentage)? If so, under what conditions could this happen? You really have to ask Microsoft, and they won't answer you : the spam field is left blank if ItemAdd never told us about the new message, and only MS can say exactly when Outlook fails to fire ItemAdd. > 3). What is the purpose of the Filter Timer? How does it work? Under > what conditions should I use it? Read the code. You should use it if anything flaky is happening (like messages not get scored). > I am finding many messages that have no percentage in the Spam field yet > a clues display will show a percent that is anywhere in the spectrum. A clues display scores the message from scratch. It doesn't matter to Show Clues whether the message has been scored before, or, if the message was scored before, what soore it got at that time. Show Clues always recomputes everything from the current state of training. > Many are over the %90 Spam limit and should have been sent to the Spam > folder. "no percentage" means ItemAdd never told SpamBayes about the message. > The messages that do arrive in the Spam and Unsure folders have a > percent value and appear to be processed correctly. I am trying to find > out if this is normal, if there is a setting that will change this > behavior if not, and if it is a bug that needs to be reported. Turn on background filtering. ItemAdd may still miss some messages, but far fewer. --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free(1). Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.692 / Virus Database: 453 - Release Date: 5/28/2004 From tim.one at comcast.net Mon May 31 16:52:10 2004 From: tim.one at comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Mon May 31 16:52:18 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] More Error Messages in log file? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [VBCoder] > It appears that all of the issues I am seeing are related to Spambayes > not seeing a message before my Outlook rules. This brings me to the sad > realization that SpamBayes is unusable in my environment. I'm not sure why. You can tell SpamBayes to watch any number of folders, in any number of .pst files. It's not limited to scanning messages *only* in the Inbox. I have Outlook rules too (although not many), which move messages from the Inbox to other folders, some in other .pst files. I configure SpamBayes to watch those destination folders too (in addition to the Inbox). The Outlook rules run first (with background filtering enabled, if necessary), and SpamBayes rips the spam out of all the folders. > I had asked a question about the purpose of the Filter timer and you > responded with "read the code". At that point, I had already responded in great detail about the *cause* of missing scores, in terms of the Outlook object model. If you want to know even more than that, then yes, read the code. You say you're a VB programmer, so the ItemAdd event shouldn't be a mystery to you. > I don't have the code The source code can be downloaded by anyone. > and I don't have the time or inclination t read the code. That's fine, and I gave you as much answer as I had time for. > If I did, I would write the code instead. The timer code is a very small part of the system. It would take anyone months to write all of this code. > I don't know what language it is written in, I am guessing > it is not one that I am conversant in like assembly or VB. It's written in Python, but uses MS's MAPI and Outlook interfaces. Those look pretty much the same no matter which language you call them from, although VB and Python are much easier to use for this than C++. > A simple answer would have sufficed. Indeed, no good deed goes unpunished <0.6 wink>. > Don't bother responding as it would make little difference as I am > already looking for a product that will work in my environment. As at the start, it's unclear why SpamBayes would not work in your environment. > Hint: If you wrote the Outlook piece as a custom rule, I would have been > able to put it first to insure it would always fire before my rules moved > it. But I am sure you already thought of that. Yes, but nobody has dreamt up a practical way of making that actually work. > You last comment about turning on background filtering is not the answer. > When turned on, almost all messages are missed (blank percent). This > setting seems to insure that it is always fired after the Outlook rules, > at least in OL2K. Yes, that's the intent. AFAICT, the only piece of this puzzle you're missing is configuring SpamBayes to watch your rules' destination folders too. From lars.kortsen at sympatico.ca Mon May 31 17:35:32 2004 From: lars.kortsen at sympatico.ca (Lars Kortsen) Date: Mon May 31 17:35:39 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: migrating SpamBayes from Windows to Linux In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677E66@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677E66@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <40BBA524.3020204@sympatico.ca> I was pleased to discover that default_bayes_database.db needed no conversion at all. I copied default_bayes_database.db to a FAT32 partition and configured the SpamBayes proxy on the 'Linux side' of my system to use /mnt/hda7/SpamBayes/default_bayes_database.db. If worked flawlessly. Another successful experiment was to use the SpamBayes proxy on the 'XP side' instead of the Outlook plug-in, and configure it to use d:\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db. I now have one database that is accessed and updated from whichever OS I am using. PS: I switched from Outlook to Thunderbird on the 'XP side' and have both OSs using T'bird configured to put all folders on the FAT32 partition. Tony Meyer wrote: > [Note that you're more likely to have success asking questions via the > spambayes@python mailing list than you are with > c.l.p/python-list@python.org. You're also more likely to receive a > response > if your reply address works.] > >> I have been trying Linux on-and-off for a couple of years but keep >> going back to Windows out of frustration. I have been >> using the Outlook plug-in for over a year and now that I am >> playing around with Linux again the first thing I did was install >> SpamBayes. I am looking for some easy way to migrate the existing >> database from Windows to Linux so I don't have to retrain from scratch. > > > You can possibly just copy the database file over > (default_bayes_database.db, which you can rename to hammie.db if you like). > If that doesn't work (depends on the dbm versions installed), then you can > use the sb_dbexpimp.py script. You'll probably have to run it on the > Windows machine (which means installing Python if it's not already there, > and getting the source archive) to get a successful conversion to either > csv > or a pickle. Then copy that across and convert back. > > =Tony Meyer > > --- > Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies > (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This > way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. > From VBCoder at iUpTown.com Mon May 31 17:43:36 2004 From: VBCoder at iUpTown.com (VBCoder) Date: Mon May 31 17:44:02 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] More Error Messages in log file? Message-ID: Tim, I have 10 Pst files with hundreds of folders in each of them. You are suggesting that I set SpamBayes up to watch over 1000 folders, surly you jest. You should have left it alone when you where ahead. I have no use for a tool that requires I chase after all of the destination folders. I don't know Python, nor do I have any desire to learn it. I have absolutely no intentions of downloading the source code to get descent documentation. This implies that only Python programmers are your intended audience for this application. I hope not. Paul -----Original Message----- From: Tim Peters [mailto:tim.one@comcast.net] Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 4:52 PM To: 'VBCoder'; Spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] More Error Messages in log file? [VBCoder] > It appears that all of the issues I am seeing are related to Spambayes > not seeing a message before my Outlook rules. This brings me to the sad > realization that SpamBayes is unusable in my environment. I'm not sure why. You can tell SpamBayes to watch any number of folders, in any number of .pst files. It's not limited to scanning messages *only* in the Inbox. I have Outlook rules too (although not many), which move messages from the Inbox to other folders, some in other .pst files. I configure SpamBayes to watch those destination folders too (in addition to the Inbox). The Outlook rules run first (with background filtering enabled, if necessary), and SpamBayes rips the spam out of all the folders. > I had asked a question about the purpose of the Filter timer and you > responded with "read the code". At that point, I had already responded in great detail about the *cause* of missing scores, in terms of the Outlook object model. If you want to know even more than that, then yes, read the code. You say you're a VB programmer, so the ItemAdd event shouldn't be a mystery to you. > I don't have the code The source code can be downloaded by anyone. > and I don't have the time or inclination t read the code. That's fine, and I gave you as much answer as I had time for. > If I did, I would write the code instead. The timer code is a very small part of the system. It would take anyone months to write all of this code. > I don't know what language it is written in, I am guessing > it is not one that I am conversant in like assembly or VB. It's written in Python, but uses MS's MAPI and Outlook interfaces. Those look pretty much the same no matter which language you call them from, although VB and Python are much easier to use for this than C++. > A simple answer would have sufficed. Indeed, no good deed goes unpunished <0.6 wink>. > Don't bother responding as it would make little difference as I am > already looking for a product that will work in my environment. As at the start, it's unclear why SpamBayes would not work in your environment. > Hint: If you wrote the Outlook piece as a custom rule, I would have been > able to put it first to insure it would always fire before my rules moved > it. But I am sure you already thought of that. Yes, but nobody has dreamt up a practical way of making that actually work. > You last comment about turning on background filtering is not the answer. > When turned on, almost all messages are missed (blank percent). This > setting seems to insure that it is always fired after the Outlook rules, > at least in OL2K. Yes, that's the intent. AFAICT, the only piece of this puzzle you're missing is configuring SpamBayes to watch your rules' destination folders too. --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free(1). Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.692 / Virus Database: 453 - Release Date: 5/28/2004 From tim.one at comcast.net Mon May 31 18:43:21 2004 From: tim.one at comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Mon May 31 18:43:27 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] More Error Messages in log file? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [VBCoder] > Tim, I have 10 Pst files with hundreds of folders in each of them. Ah, I didn't know that. > You are suggesting that I set SpamBayes up to watch over 1000 folders, No, now that I know it, I agree the Outlook addin form of SpamBayes would be too clumsy for you to use. As for the rest, all work on this project is done by volunteers, in their spare time. There is no "intended audience" for the project. The original work was aimed at high-volume server-side filtering of technical mailing lists. It becomes more useful for more people as more people contribute back to the project (code, docs, whatever they feel is lacking) to better meet their own particular needs. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon May 31 18:50:17 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon May 31 18:50:33 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] More Error Messages in log file? In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306966E6E@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0262@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I have 10 Pst files with hundreds of folders in each of them. > You are suggesting that I set SpamBayes up to watch over > 1000 folders. It really doesn't sound like SpamBayes is the filter for you, so by all means google about for others. However, if you do want to try to use it, here are two suggestions: * You can use the "include subfolders" option when selecting folders. I presume that the hundreds of folders are in some sort of hierarchy, so this would mean only selecting a few. Still some work to setup, but that only gets done once. Of course, if there are subfolders that should be filtered, and subfolders that shouldn't, then this won't work. * If you're using POP3, then you could use the proxy rather than the plug-in. Not as good a UI, but not bad, either. This would guarantee that all messages were classified before Outlook got to them. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From benfos at yahoo.com Mon May 31 19:12:05 2004 From: benfos at yahoo.com (Ben Foster) Date: Mon May 31 19:12:08 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] 500 server error Message-ID: <20040531231205.48812.qmail@web50006.mail.yahoo.com> Win XP home SB ver. 0.6 for Outlook Express 6 When I click on configure I get error message: 500 Server error Traceback (most recent call last): File "spambayes\Dibbler.pyc", line 461, in found_terminator File "spambayes\UserInterface.pyc", line 627, in onConfig File "spambayes\UserInterface.pyc", line 641, in _buildConfigPage File "spambayes\PyMeldLite.pyc", line 738, in __setattr__ File "spambayes\PyMeldLite.pyc", line 654, in _replaceNodeContent File "spambayes\PyMeldLite.pyc", line 640, in _nodeListFromSource File "spambayes\PyMeldLite.pyc", line 574, in _generateTree File "spambayes\PyMeldLite.pyc", line 499, in feed ExpatError: not well-formed (invalid token): line 1, column 34 Can you help? Thanks Ben Foster --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040531/3a0a43ff/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon May 31 20:16:33 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon May 31 20:16:51 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with Configuration In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306557C6D@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677ED5@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > It runs fine for the most part however I'm trying to change > some of the configuration settings. In particular the 2 cache > yes/no options. [...] > AttributeError: 'tuple' object has no attribute 'split' This problem has been reported by a number of people, with lots of difference options. I can't duplicate it, and am reasonably convinced that it's caused by the configuration file having an old version of an option, but I don't know which one. Any chance that you could send us (or me) your configuration file? You can remove or XXX out the server values, if you like. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon May 31 20:20:29 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon May 31 20:20:39 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] 500 server error In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306966E9C@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677ED6@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > SB ver. 0.6 for Outlook Express 6 > When I click on configure I get error message: [...] > File "spambayes\PyMeldLite.pyc", line 499, in feed > ExpatError: not well-formed (invalid token): line 1, column 34 This is quite an odd error. Would you be able to send us/me your configuration file? I suspect that there's some character in the settings (the server name, I presume) that's causing difficulties. =Tony Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon May 31 20:31:37 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon May 31 20:32:02 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] ANNOUNCE: SpamBayes release 1.0rc1 In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13066C0369@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0263@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> [default action options not working] > I set them through the web interface. Here's the section from the ini: > > [html_ui] > default_ham_action:discard > default_spam_action:discard > > This looks perfect to me, but unfortunately the training interface > doesn't seem to use them. Hmm. They work for me, so I'm not sure what the problem is. Hopefully the log will have a clue. > I couldn't find a log file though, so can't report on > possible errors. > There wasn't one in either the AppData dir, or the ProgramFiles dir. > Event log didn't show me anything either, but I don't think you send > messages there anyway. > Where should the log file reside? It's in the temp directory. With Win2K/XP this is probably C:\Documents and Settings\{username}\Local Settings\Temp (the directory might be hidden). It'll be called SpamBayesServer1.log or SpamBayesService1.log. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From VBCoder at iUpTown.com Mon May 31 20:34:50 2004 From: VBCoder at iUpTown.com (VBCoder) Date: Mon May 31 20:35:13 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] More Error Messages in log file? Message-ID: Hi Tim, My annoyance still stands, that if I knew that there was a compatibility issue with OL2K I would not have tried the product. I understand and appreciate that this product, and many others, are all done by volunteers. What you are failing to understand here is that my time is no more or no less valuable than yours. I spent a great deal of time trying to understand what was going wrong and what could be done to get SpamBayes to work in my environment. This time has just been wasted by this discovery. Simply because of the lack of a compatibility statement for the Outlook plug-in and this issue for OL2K. This does not make me a happy camper and the fact that the team that built this are volunteers does not make it better at all. By the way, I was in the process of writing a custom rule that would further route messages that where put in the Spam folder by SpamBayes. It would look for message headers that had a line added by my mail server that indicated that it found the message in SpamCop and move it to a subfolder of Spam. This would leave the messages in the Spam folder to be just the ones I needed to report to Spamcop. It was working OK, but needed some tweaks, too bad I will never finish it so I could show you that someone actually did figure out how to use it and be practical at that. Your Outlook plug-in is a great idea and I am deeply saddened by not being able to use it. I am stuck with it for a while as I no longer have my old system to fall back to. It was on my mail server and there was no way to back it up or preserve it. I don't own the server. Paul -----Original Message----- From: Tim Peters [mailto:tim.one@comcast.net] Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 6:43 PM To: 'VBCoder'; Spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] More Error Messages in log file? [VBCoder] > Tim, I have 10 Pst files with hundreds of folders in each of them. Ah, I didn't know that. > You are suggesting that I set SpamBayes up to watch over 1000 folders, No, now that I know it, I agree the Outlook addin form of SpamBayes would be too clumsy for you to use. As for the rest, all work on this project is done by volunteers, in their spare time. There is no "intended audience" for the project. The original work was aimed at high-volume server-side filtering of technical mailing lists. It becomes more useful for more people as more people contribute back to the project (code, docs, whatever they feel is lacking) to better meet their own particular needs. --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free(1). Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.692 / Virus Database: 453 - Release Date: 5/28/2004 From tim.one at comcast.net Mon May 31 21:30:08 2004 From: tim.one at comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Mon May 31 21:30:16 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] More Error Messages in log file? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [VBCoder] > My annoyance still stands, that if I knew that there was a > compatibility issue with OL2K I would not have tried the product. Eh? I don't know of any compatibility issue with OL2K. At least thousands of people use the Outlook addin with OL2K happily. I'm one of them; I also use it happily with OL2003. Are you talking about the MS KB article I pointed you at earlier? If so, that only mentions OL2K, but in reality the unreliability of ItemAdd isn't limited to OL2K. I need to enable background filtering under OL2003 for the same reason. If you need to blame someone, you'll need to blame MS, for both ItemAdd's glitches and for letting their docs get out of date. > I understand and appreciate that this product, and many others, are all > done by volunteers. What you are failing to understand here is that my > time is no more or no less valuable than yours. I do understand that, and I've given you as much help as I can. Isn't it the case that you understood the problem after my first reply? You're not going to get service like that anywhere else . > I spent a great deal of time trying to understand what was going wrong > and what could be done to get SpamBayes to work in my environment. This > time has just been wasted by this discovery. Simply because of the lack > of a compatibility statement for the Outlook plug-in and this issue for > OL2K. This does not make me a happy camper and the fact that the team > that built this are volunteers does not make it better at all. There's nothing specific to OL2K here. I don't recall anyone ever saying they were using thousands of folders with rules before, I have to believe that's very unusual, and *that's* what makes "the usual" workaround ineffective for you. You're the first person I know of for which it isn't effective. > By the way, I was in the process of writing a custom rule that would > further route messages that where put in the Spam folder by SpamBayes. > It would look for message headers that had a line added by my mail server > that indicated that it found the message in SpamCop and move it to a > subfolder of Spam. This would leave the messages in the Spam folder to > be just the ones I needed to report to Spamcop. It was working OK, but > needed some tweaks, too bad I will never finish it so I could show you > that someone actually did figure out how to use it and be practical at > that. Hmm. I *assumed* that by "custom rule" before you meant Outlook's "custom action" rule gimmick for accessing an external DLL. Maybe that was wrong, because you appear here to be describing a vanilla rule using filtering abilities built in to the Outlook Rules Wizard. SpamBayes can't be invoked that way, and you can't even access a custom field (like the SpamBayes Spam Score field) from an Outlook rule. From olbyun at hotmail.com Mon May 31 21:41:22 2004 From: olbyun at hotmail.com (Juman Byun) Date: Mon May 31 21:41:31 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Trained 0 out of 0 messages? Message-ID: Spambayes RC1 on RedHat EL 3.0 Some reason the training is not done properly. It says Reading as Unix mbox Trained 0 out of 0 messages Then the mboxes sizes are reset to 0 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040531/c8a88f03/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon May 31 21:50:51 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon May 31 21:51:00 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Trained 0 out of 0 messages? In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306966EFC@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677EDE@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Spambayes RC1 on RedHat EL 3.0 Some reason the > training is not done properly. > It says > > Reading as Unix mbox > Trained 0 out of 0 messages > > Then the mboxes sizes are reset to 0 More information than this would be great! I'm guessing that this is with sb_mboxtrain - is that correct? What are you using to execute the script? (i.e. what command line options are you passing to it?). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From olbyun at hotmail.com Mon May 31 22:43:27 2004 From: olbyun at hotmail.com (Juman Byun) Date: Mon May 31 22:43:38 2004 Subject: problem training from mbox Re: [Spambayes] Trained 0 out of 0 messages? References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677EDE@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: I'm using Spambayes-1.0rc1 with Python 2.3.4 on RedHat Enterprise Linux ES 3.0 I also upgraded Python 2.2.3 to 2.3.4 just in case. There are two mbox files that I'm trying to use to train Spambayes mbox_inbox (212513 bytes) mbox_spam (32851 bytes) I ran $ /usr/bin/sb_mboxtrain.py -d $HOME/.hammie.db -g $HOME/mbox_inbox -s $HOME/mbox_spam Training ham (/home/olbyun/mbox_inbox): Reading as Unix mbox Trained 0 out of 0 messages Training spam (/home/olbyun/mbox_spam): Reading as Unix mbox Trained 0 out of 0 messages Now the file size is reset to 0 and the file size of .hammie.db is not changed. I'm not sure if this is a normal behavior. mbox_inbox (0 byte) mbox_spam (0 byte) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Meyer" To: "'Juman Byun'" ; Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 9:50 PM Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Trained 0 out of 0 messages? > > Spambayes RC1 on RedHat EL 3.0 Some reason the > > training is not done properly. > > It says > > > > Reading as Unix mbox > > Trained 0 out of 0 messages > > > > Then the mboxes sizes are reset to 0 > > More information than this would be great! I'm guessing that this is with > sb_mboxtrain - is that correct? What are you using to execute the script? > (i.e. what command line options are you passing to it?). > > =Tony Meyer > > --- > Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies > (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This > way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. > >