From cheryl.davis4 at comcast.net Mon Mar 1 08:52:36 2004 From: cheryl.davis4 at comcast.net (Cheryl Davis) Date: Mon Mar 1 08:52:37 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] a problem Message-ID: I have to admit I am a true novice when it comes to the workings of the computer. However, my son who is an electrical engineer and a friend who works with him suggested your program to me as a Spam blocker. I think it must work great or they would not have suggested it. However, I have to tell you a problem I am having and see if there is some way to work it out without removing your program. I have installed it this morning after receiving 12 email. I opened two and then installed the program. The set the program to run automatically. I guess that was my first mistake. I set the two applications for junk mail and junk suspects. When it was set it automatically removed the 10 email I had not opened and sent them to never-never land. I have no clue as to how to find them. I do not have my Outlook set for separate files or folders just the normal Inbox, Sent, Delete, and Outgoing. The email that has disappeared was in my Inbox. I know that I will not be able to receive an email from you in answer to this but I am going to give you my phone number in the hope that you will call me and let me know how I can correct this or retrieve my messages. Thanks for any help you may be able to provide me. Sincerely, Cheryl L. Davis (954) 943-9103 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040301/689ec2cd/attachment.html From papaDoc at videotron.ca Mon Mar 1 09:42:59 2004 From: papaDoc at videotron.ca (papaDoc) Date: Mon Mar 1 09:46:47 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40434BF3.50102@videotron.ca> Hi, > On the configuration > page I am using "mail.comcast.net" on Port 25 as shown in my Comcast > account settings in Outlook Express. I think this should be port 110 > The outgoing smtp server is "smtp.comcast.net" on port 110. And this one should be port 25 >What does that mean? >It's a desktop computer, it doesn't have an address. I tried using >"localhost" but that did not work. Do I need to use >"http://localhost" or something of that sort? > > If your computer is on the net it has an address but this is not your problem. Ok what you have to do: Open the web interface: To do so type http://localhost:8880 in you browser (IE or Netscape or Mozilla or whatever you use) Go to the configuration page the look at the POP3 Proxy option For the Remote Servers: you should enter what usually you use in OE (mail.comcast.net) For the Spambayes Ports I usually enter 6110 (but you can use 110) If you want to train using the smtp proxy but for now It is easier to train using the web interface so don't touch this for now. Leave the Remote Servers and Spambayes Ports empty. Then in OE configure the POP server has localhost and the port should be 6110 (if you use the same as me) Leave the smtp server like it was (i.e smtp.comcast.net with port 25) This should work . Remi -- /"\ \ / X ASCII Ribbon Campaign / \ Against HTML Email From hetzels at westbend.net Mon Mar 1 10:01:10 2004 From: hetzels at westbend.net (hetzels@westbend.net) Date: Mon Mar 1 10:01:16 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] stacy Message-ID: i'm tall and skiny I'm studying in Pharm. D program in FL. i like music, movie, dancing, sports, SCUBA diving, traveling and make a lot friends. password for archive: 34623 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: rebecca.zip Type: application/octet-stream Size: 23220 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040301/6cbf0042/rebecca-0001.obj From copacino at law.georgetown.edu Mon Mar 1 14:01:30 2004 From: copacino at law.georgetown.edu (John M. Copacino) Date: Mon Mar 1 14:03:00 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Message-ID: <0HTW00CNXV7E5C@law-mail.georgetown.edu> I have been using Spambayes for about 4 months, and I just wanted to let you know how great it is. It deletes almost 100% of spam, and virtually never gets a false positive. I get 50-75 spams per day, and the number seems to be rising. This program makes my email useable again. I have made a modest contribution to the Python organization through Paypal, as suggested. Thanks for your wonderful program. ---------------------- John M. Copacino Director Criminal Justice Clinic Georgetown University Law Center 111 F Street, N.W. Washington, DC 20001 202-662-9577 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040301/67bed109/attachment.html From tim at fourstonesExpressions.com Mon Mar 1 14:09:19 2004 From: tim at fourstonesExpressions.com (Tim Stone) Date: Mon Mar 1 14:11:53 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <0HTW00CNXV7E5C@law-mail.georgetown.edu> References: <0HTW00CNXV7E5C@law-mail.georgetown.edu> Message-ID: On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 14:01:30 -0500, John M. Copacino wrote: > I have been using Spambayes for about 4 months, and I just wanted to let > you > know how great it is. It deletes almost 100% of spam, and virtually > never > gets a false positive. I get 50-75 spams per day, and the number seems > to > be rising. This program makes my email useable again. Great to hear! I have made a > modest > contribution to the Python organization through Paypal, as suggested. > Thanks for your wonderful program. Thank you so much! -- Exprimez vous!; Expr?sese; Esprimi te stesso; Express yourself! Tim Stone See my photography at www.fourstonesExpressions.com From SueAnn.Sanders at charlottefl.com Mon Mar 1 14:20:40 2004 From: SueAnn.Sanders at charlottefl.com (Sanders, SueAnn) Date: Mon Mar 1 14:23:35 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Question about junk senders Message-ID: In MS Outlook, after Spambayes has identified an email message as Junk and moved it into my Junk E-Mail folder.... Do I still need to select the message and go to the Actions Menu/Junk E-Mail/Add to Junk Senders list? Or is that done automatically? Or is that feature of MS Outlook totally useless? SueAnn Sanders - WebMaster Charlotte County Communications & Marketing Dept. 941-623-1091 www.charlottecountyfl.com ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. ********************************************************************** From Amir_Katz at bmc.com Mon Mar 1 14:34:52 2004 From: Amir_Katz at bmc.com (Katz, Amir) Date: Mon Mar 1 14:39:41 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Question about junk senders Message-ID: 1. No you don't. 2. No. 3. In the past it may have been useful. Nowadays, spammers fake their e-mail addresses anyway and change them from one fake to the next, so the 'junk senders list' is pretty much useless. Bottom line: SpamBayes is enough. -----Original Message----- From: Sanders, SueAnn [mailto:SueAnn.Sanders@charlottefl.com] Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 21:21 To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Question about junk senders In MS Outlook, after Spambayes has identified an email message as Junk and moved it into my Junk E-Mail folder.... Do I still need to select the message and go to the Actions Menu/Junk E-Mail/Add to Junk Senders list? Or is that done automatically? Or is that feature of MS Outlook totally useless? SueAnn Sanders - WebMaster Charlotte County Communications & Marketing Dept. 941-623-1091 www.charlottecountyfl.com ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. ********************************************************************** _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From lee at darkwave.org.uk Mon Mar 1 13:34:54 2004 From: lee at darkwave.org.uk (Lee Edward Armstrong) Date: Mon Mar 1 15:08:00 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes as an open mil relay ??? Message-ID: <4043824E.16183.F9FEF33@localhost> Hi there, I recently installed this spam killer and it seems to be working quite well..... However today i came back to my pc after work and saw my net connection being hammered....Looked into what my firewall said and the only thing running was spambayes ! Had a further look and i get the feeling that after a port sacn or two, someone has twigged i'm running this and seen it as a free spam relay point ???? Is this posible ??? If so, its one hell of a dodgy loop hole ! I'm running Win98 (not SE), Pegasus Mail (so not the outlook plug-in) and Sygate Personal Firewall. Any help much appriciated - & please reply personaly as well to the group as i'm not yet subscribed. Ta, Lee From cej at intech.com Mon Mar 1 15:21:31 2004 From: cej at intech.com (Christopher Jastram) Date: Mon Mar 1 15:27:18 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes as an open mil relay ??? In-Reply-To: <4043824E.16183.F9FEF33@localhost> References: <4043824E.16183.F9FEF33@localhost> Message-ID: <40439B4B.5020305@intech.com> Lee, You probably have one of the several different worms (distributed via email, peer-to-peer networking apps such as Kazaa, etc) that use your computer as an open relay. Do you have McAfee or some other antivirus program? Does your computer pop ads even when you're not doing anything online? Many of these worms can walk right through a firewall, because they're disguised as normal email/files/web pages. I haven't looked at the SpamBayes code, but my suspicion would be a Windows worm, rather than the SpamBayes code. Of course, if you've already checked for worms, smack me please. Also, check out www.sysinternals.com for tools that can tell you what processes or services are using various files and network ports. Tremendously useful stuff (can't beat the price). Chris Lee Edward Armstrong wrote: > Hi there, > > I recently installed this spam killer and it seems to be working quite well..... > > However today i came back to my pc after work and saw my net connection being > hammered....Looked into what my firewall said and the only thing running was > spambayes ! > > Had a further look and i get the feeling that after a port sacn or two, someone has > twigged i'm running this and seen it as a free spam relay point ???? > > Is this posible ??? > > If so, its one hell of a dodgy loop hole ! > > I'm running Win98 (not SE), Pegasus Mail (so not the outlook plug-in) and Sygate > Personal Firewall. > > Any help much appriciated - & please reply personaly as well to the group as i'm not > yet subscribed. > > Ta, > Lee > > _______________________________________________ > Spambayes@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > > > !DSPAM:40439831222491227910791! > > > From spambayesspambayes at CIS.NET Mon Mar 1 14:50:17 2004 From: spambayesspambayes at CIS.NET (Seria) Date: Mon Mar 1 15:57:02 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes: C1ALI-S is the antl-1mpotence drug to win appr0va1 from the u.s. f0od and drug admln1strati0n Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040301/c20911cf/attachment.html From mstewart at allwirelesssolutions.com Mon Mar 1 16:03:08 2004 From: mstewart at allwirelesssolutions.com (Michele Stewart) Date: Mon Mar 1 16:07:07 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Toolbar help Message-ID: I just finished reading the troubleshooting guide but couldn't find a resolution to my problem. I'm using Windows 2000 Pro with Outlook 2000 and Spambayes v0.9. For some reason, when I'm in my Junk Suspects Folder, the toolbar shows a Delete as Spam option but does NOT show a Recover from Spam option. This is a change from the prior version which I also used. I did have to do a whole new install of Win2000, Outlook and Spambayes recently but other than having to have Spambayes relearn all my junk mail preferences, the toolbar shouldn't be acting this way, should it? Can someone help? Michele From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 1 16:18:44 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Mar 1 16:31:57 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes as an open mil relay ??? In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13054AF72E@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677A2C@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > However today i came back to my pc after work and saw my net > connection being hammered....Looked into what my firewall said > and the only thing running was spambayes ! > > Had a further look and i get the feeling that after a port > sacn or two, someone has twigged i'm running this and seen > it as a free spam relay point ???? [Assuming you are using sb_server, and not the Outlook plug-in. If it's the plug-in, then *no*, SpamBayes is not doing this] SpamBayes isn't a mail server, so can't be used in this way. All it does is *proxy* your existing mail server. In other words, if someone connected to your sb_server, what they would get is the prompt to login to your mail server. If your mail server (at your ISP, or wherever) allows connections from anywhere, then people could send via your mail server through your proxy, if you have not firewalled this off. However, they could do exactly the same thing if they just connected directly to your mail server. If this is the case, you should try and convince the server's administrator(s) to fix the problem; it's theirs, not yours. If people are accessing the web interface, rather than the POP3 or SMTP proxy, they can change your SpamBayes settings, or do training for you. However, by default, access is limited to localhost, so you would have had to specifically open up access to anyone for them to be able to do this. Overall, it seems highly unlikely that the program being used is SpamBayes; even if it is, the spammer is not gaining anything (in fact, is losing, since connection directly to the mail server would be faster). If you want to check, take a look at the port that is being accessed - is it one that SpamBayes is handling? Or, while the connection is being 'hammered', close SpamBayes down - does that stop it? If you want to be absolutely sure, then firewall off whichever ports you are running the POP3 proxy and/or SMTP proxy on. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From jepler at unpythonic.net Mon Mar 1 15:57:56 2004 From: jepler at unpythonic.net (Jeff Epler) Date: Mon Mar 1 16:36:16 2004 Subject: I think it's true (Re: [Spambayes] Spambayes as an open mil relay ???) In-Reply-To: <4043824E.16183.F9FEF33@localhost> References: <4043824E.16183.F9FEF33@localhost> Message-ID: <20040301205756.GD6936@unpythonic.net> On Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 06:34:54PM -0000, Lee Edward Armstrong wrote: > However today i came back to my pc after work and saw my net connection being > hammered....Looked into what my firewall said and the only thing running was > spambayes ! I didn't want to believe this, but it looks like it might be the case. I'm using 1.0a7 on Unix, and I added these lines to my ~/.spambayesrc (on "craie"): [smtpproxy] remote_servers: localhost listen_ports: 25000 and ran sb_smtpproxy.py then, on another machine, I ran "telnet craie 25000" and got an SMTP banner. strace of sb_smtpproxy shows that it is binding all interfaces: bind(3, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(25000), sin_addr=inet_addr("0.0.0.0")}, 16) = 0 specifying "listen_ports: localhost:25000" doesn't make a difference. (great, it's silently ignoring my attempts to fix the problem!) this is BAD BAD BAD and warrants a very quick fix. The following seems to work but is probably less than ideal --- /usr/bin/sb_smtpproxy.py 2003-12-21 19:07:54.000000000 -0600 +++ /tmp/sb_smtpproxy.py 2004-03-01 14:53:36.000000000 -0600 @@ -250,6 +250,7 @@ def __init__(self, serverName, serverPort, proxyPort, trainer): proxyArgs = (serverName, serverPort, trainer) + proxyPort = ('localhost', proxyPort[1]) Dibbler.Listener.__init__(self, proxyPort, BayesSMTPProxy, proxyArgs) print 'SMTP Listener on port %s is proxying %s:%d' % \ Jeff From arvid at linux.se Mon Mar 1 16:41:00 2004 From: arvid at linux.se (Arvid Andersson) Date: Mon Mar 1 16:50:00 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] New database and the X-Spambayes-Trained header Message-ID: <20040301214100.GA11617@shell.linux.se> Hello, Spambayes is working great, but I have a question about the spam and ham that I train on. I want to save the spam I get should I ever need to rebuild the database. But can I use the spam that I've already trained on? I'm thinking of the X-Spambayes-Trained header. It seems to be there to prevent double training or something similiar. /Arvid From tim at fourstonesExpressions.com Mon Mar 1 17:02:40 2004 From: tim at fourstonesExpressions.com (Tim Stone) Date: Mon Mar 1 17:08:58 2004 Subject: I think it's true (Re: [Spambayes] Spambayes as an open mil relay ???) In-Reply-To: <20040301205756.GD6936@unpythonic.net> References: <4043824E.16183.F9FEF33@localhost> <20040301205756.GD6936@unpythonic.net> Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 14:57:56 -0600, Jeff Epler wrote: > On Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 06:34:54PM -0000, Lee Edward Armstrong wrote: >> However today i came back to my pc after work and saw my net connection >> being >> hammered....Looked into what my firewall said and the only thing >> running was >> spambayes ! > > I didn't want to believe this, but it looks like it might be the case. This isn't really a hole in spambayes smtpproxy; the smtp server that it's proxying is an open relay, and that's the problem. We'll put an option in that attempts to control where the smtpproxy accepts connections from. In the meantime, unless you use the smtpproxy for training purposes, it is absolutely not necessary. Simply leave the smtpproxy servers and ports list empty on the configuration page, and it won't make those connections, and all is well... this is the default configuration. -- Exprimez vous!; Expr?sese; Esprimi te stesso; Express yourself! Tim Stone See my photography at www.fourstonesExpressions.com From jepler at unpythonic.net Mon Mar 1 16:58:08 2004 From: jepler at unpythonic.net (Jeff Epler) Date: Mon Mar 1 17:09:00 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes as an open mil relay ??? In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677A2C@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13054AF72E@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677A2C@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <20040301215808.GG6936@unpythonic.net> On Tue, Mar 02, 2004 at 10:18:44AM +1300, Tony Meyer wrote: > SpamBayes isn't a mail server, so can't be used in this way. All it does is > *proxy* your existing mail server. In other words, if someone connected to > your sb_server, what they would get is the prompt to login to your mail > server. > > If your mail server (at your ISP, or wherever) allows connections from > anywhere, then people could send via your mail server through your proxy, if > you have not firewalled this off. However, they could do exactly the same > thing if they just connected directly to your mail server. If this is the > case, you should try and convince the server's administrator(s) to fix the > problem; it's theirs, not yours. Tony, I think that my mail server is configured like most: for "local" connections, mail is accepted for any destination address. For "remote" connections, mail is accepted only for local addresses. If a spammer connects to my smtp port, they can only send mail to local addresses. But if a spammer connects to sb_smtpproxy.py, the address the real smtp server sees is a local address, and it will relay to any address. I agree that it's best to forbid connections from outside to arbitrary ports (this is a basic rule of firewalling), but sb_smtpproxy.py should still only bind the local interface by default, as my earlier patch tries to force it to do. Jeff From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 1 17:08:55 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Mar 1 17:39:26 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] New database and the X-Spambayes-Trained header In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13054AF76D@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2AF1@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Spambayes is working great, but I have a question about the > spam and ham that I train on. I want to save the spam I get > should I ever need to rebuild the database. But can I use the > spam that I've already trained on? I'm thinking of the > X-Spambayes-Trained header. It seems to be there to prevent > double training or something similiar. You're using sb_mboxtrain, yes? If so, there is a "-f" command-line switch that ignores the X-Spambayes-Trained header. However, a better solution, if you want to save the spam, would be to configure things so that it's copied somewhere *before* spambayes gets at it. Hope this helps. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From papaDoc at videotron.ca Mon Mar 1 17:10:17 2004 From: papaDoc at videotron.ca (papaDoc) Date: Mon Mar 1 17:39:29 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] New database and the X-Spambayes-Trained header In-Reply-To: <20040301214100.GA11617@shell.linux.se> References: <20040301214100.GA11617@shell.linux.se> Message-ID: <4043B4C9.1080602@videotron.ca> Hi Arvid, >Hello, > >Spambayes is working great, but I have a question about the spam >and ham that I train on. I want to save the spam I get should I >ever need to rebuild the database. But can I use the spam that >I've already trained on? I'm thinking of the X-Spambayes-Trained >header. It seems to be there to prevent double training or >something similiar. > > Yes it is there for that (You have to note that training by the web interface won't add this header until I hack the code of someone else do it). If you want to train from scratch you will have to use the command line "-f" with sb_mboxtrain.py This will force to ignore the header and train on all message. Remi -- /"\ \ / X ASCII Ribbon Campaign / \ Against HTML Email From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 1 17:20:27 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Mar 1 17:57:07 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes as an open mil relay ??? In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13054AF770@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2AF2@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > If a spammer connects to my smtp port, they can only send > mail to local addresses. But if a spammer connects to > sb_smtpproxy.py, the address the real smtp server sees is a > local address, and it will relay to any address. Good point, although don't most SMTP servers require authentication these days? (All the ones I have access to do, although I don't really have any idea about anywhere else). > I agree that it's best to forbid connections from outside to > arbitrary ports (this is a basic rule of firewalling), but > sb_smtpproxy.py should still only bind the local interface by > default, as my earlier patch tries to force it to do. TimS is going to add in a patch that works like the ui, so that connections are only accepted from a list of IP addresses/ranges (defaulting to localhost). He's also going to update the documentation to make it clearer that you don't need to enter in the SMTP server details unless you actually want to use the SMTP proxy for training (which many people don't). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From lee at darkwave.org.uk Mon Mar 1 16:24:26 2004 From: lee at darkwave.org.uk (Lee Edward Armstrong) Date: Mon Mar 1 18:37:14 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes as an open mil relay ??? In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2AF2@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13054AF770@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <4043AA0A.26002.103B2A5D@localhost> Hi there, > Good point, although don't most SMTP servers require authentication > these days? (All the ones I have access to do, although I don't > really have any idea about anywhere else). relay.plus.net is my mail server. > TimS is going to add in a patch that works like the ui, so that > connections are only accepted from a list of IP addresses/ranges > (defaulting to localhost). He's also going to update the > documentation to make it clearer that you don't need to enter in the > SMTP server details unless you actually want to use the SMTP proxy for > training (which many people don't). I use the review messages, which is based on what the pop server caches. I've now dropped the smtp proxy and my connections have dropped. Thanks, Lee From arvid at linux.se Mon Mar 1 17:32:18 2004 From: arvid at linux.se (Arvid Andersson) Date: Mon Mar 1 19:21:20 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] New database and the X-Spambayes-Trained header In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2AF1@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13054AF76D@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2AF1@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <20040301223218.GB16734@shell.linux.se> On Tue, Mar 02, 2004 at 11:08:55AM +1300, Tony Meyer wrote: > > ... But can I use the > > spam that I've already trained on? I'm thinking of the > > X-Spambayes-Trained header. It seems to be there to prevent > > double training or something similiar. > > You're using sb_mboxtrain, yes? If so, there is a "-f" command-line switch > that ignores the X-Spambayes-Trained header. However, a better solution, if > you want to save the spam, would be to configure things so that it's copied > somewhere *before* spambayes gets at it. Yes, I'm using sb_mboxtrain. -f seems to be the easier solution, since if I copy the mail before it reaches spambayes I'll have to sort the spam out manually before I train, won't I? /Arvid From papaDoc at videotron.ca Mon Mar 1 19:44:52 2004 From: papaDoc at videotron.ca (papaDoc) Date: Mon Mar 1 19:44:20 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] New database and the X-Spambayes-Trained header In-Reply-To: <20040301223218.GB16734@shell.linux.se> References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13054AF76D@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2AF1@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> <20040301223218.GB16734@shell.linux.se> Message-ID: <4043D904.80307@videotron.ca> Hi Arvid, >Yes, I'm using sb_mboxtrain. -f seems to be the easier solution, >since if I copy the mail before it reaches spambayes I'll have >to sort the spam out manually before I train, won't I? > > Yes and no. What you can do and I think this is what Tony had suggested is duplicate your incoming mail. One copy to spambayes to process after you have the result you can save another copy to a given folder. (This can be done with procmail if you are using unix, linux or bsd or ...) I also think that the -f is the easiest solution. I don't know if all the script use the header or handle the header (tte.py ???) Remi -- /"\ \ / X ASCII Ribbon Campaign / \ Against HTML Email From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 1 19:49:16 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Mar 1 19:49:50 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] New database and the X-Spambayes-Trained header In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13054AF7EA@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677A36@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > >if I copy the mail before it reaches spambayes I'll have to sort the > >spam out manually before I train, won't I? > What you can do and I think this is what Tony had suggested > is duplicate your incoming mail. > One copy to spambayes to process after you have the result > you can save another copy to a given folder. [...] > I also think that the -f is the easiest solution. I don't use this sort of system at all, and my suggestion was based on a memory of reading someone else's setup, and I hadn't really thought through it enough . There probably is a way around this, but yes, the -f option is probably best. > I don't know if all the script use the header or handle the header > (tte.py ???) IIRC, it's just the command line stuff (maybe just mboxtrain?). tte.py can't really use it, because it needs to go over messages again and again to see if it should be trained. =Tony meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From jepler at unpythonic.net Mon Mar 1 19:51:23 2004 From: jepler at unpythonic.net (Jeff Epler) Date: Mon Mar 1 19:51:57 2004 Subject: I think it's true (Re: [Spambayes] Spambayes as an open mil relay ???) In-Reply-To: References: <4043824E.16183.F9FEF33@localhost> <20040301205756.GD6936@unpythonic.net> Message-ID: <20040302005123.GA7746@unpythonic.net> Tim, My port-25 SMTP server is not an open relay[1]. Connect from any IP address outside of a very small set, try to send e-mail to and you'll get a session like this: Connected to bald.unpythonic.net:25 <<< 220 bald.unpythonic.net ESMTP Sendmail 8.11.6/8.11.6; Mon, 1 Mar 2004 18:38:14 -0600 >>> HELO example.com <<< 250 bald.unpythonic.net Hello spammer.example.com [198.xxx.x.x], pleased to meet you >>> MAIL FROM:<> <<< 250 2.1.0 <>... Sender ok >>> RCPT TO: tim@fourstonesexpressions.com <<< 550 5.7.1 tim@fourstonesexpressions.com... Relaying denied Now, try it through sb_smtpproxy: Connected to bald.unpythonic.net:25001 <<< 220 bald.unpythonic.net ESMTP Sendmail 8.11.6/8.11.6; Mon, 1 Mar 2004 18:41:44 -0600 >>> HELO example.com <<< 250 bald.unpythonic.net Hello bald.unpythonic.net [206.222.212.218], pleased to meet you >>> MAIL FROM:<> <<< 250 2.1.0 <>... Sender ok >>> RCPT TO: tim@fourstonesexpressions.com <<< 250 2.1.5 tim@fourstonesexpressions.com... Recipient ok sb_smtpproxy makes sendmail's smtpd see a connection from a local IP address (look at the response to HELO, which says bald believes the connection is from bald, not spammer.example.com), and the local mail server dutifully allows the specification of a recipient at any domain. sb_smtpproxy should fix this problem by binding only the loopback interface. Failure to do so means that running sb_smtpproxy gives spammers free license to send spam through your machine, even in situations where the underlying smtpd forbids relaying from foreign IP addresses. Jeff [1] Just in case there was a configuration error in my smtpd setup, I decided to check on a well-known website offering many sophisticated tests for open relays. My system passed. http://www.abuse.net/cgi-bin/relaytest?ADDR=bald.unpythonic.net&EMAIL=&PW=&TEST=Test+for+relay Mail relay testing Connecting to bald.unpythonic.net for anonymous test ... <<< 220 bald.unpythonic.net ESMTP Sendmail 8.11.6/8.11.6; Mon, 1 Mar 2004 18:47:20 -0600 >>> HELO www.abuse.net <<< 250 bald.unpythonic.net Hello www.abuse.net [208.31.42.77], pleased to meet you Relay test 1 >>> RSET <<< 250 2.0.0 Reset state >>> MAIL FROM: <<< 250 2.1.0 ... Sender ok >>> RCPT TO: <<< 550 5.7.1 ... Relaying denied [...] Relay test 17 >>> RSET <<< 250 2.0.0 Reset state >>> MAIL FROM: <<< 250 2.1.0 ... Sender ok >>> RCPT TO: <<< 550 5.7.1 ... Relaying denied Relay test result All tests performed, no relays accepted. From jepler at unpythonic.net Mon Mar 1 19:54:31 2004 From: jepler at unpythonic.net (Jeff Epler) Date: Mon Mar 1 19:55:02 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes as an open mil relay ??? In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2AF2@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13054AF770@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2AF2@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <20040302005431.GB7746@unpythonic.net> On Tue, Mar 02, 2004 at 11:20:27AM +1300, Tony Meyer wrote: > > If a spammer connects to my smtp port, they can only send > > mail to local addresses. But if a spammer connects to > > sb_smtpproxy.py, the address the real smtp server sees is a > > local address, and it will relay to any address. > > Good point, although don't most SMTP servers require authentication these > days? (All the ones I have access to do, although I don't really have any > idea about anywhere else). All the SMTP servers I use do not require authentication from users who are "inside" the network in some sense. This is the case for my personal network, my ISP's network, and my employer's network. Jeff From freeman949 at cox.net Mon Mar 1 20:00:21 2004 From: freeman949 at cox.net (Harry) Date: Mon Mar 1 20:00:32 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Help Message-ID: <000201c3fff1$bff03ea0$0700a8c0@HarryDen> I am running the latest version of SpamBayes with Outlook 2002. I've noticed there is a long lag time from when I click on and highlight a message in my inbox and the time until it opens in the preview pane. There is a very slow response when I click the next message arrow button and Outlook takes longer to load as well. Is there a way to fix this? Thanks, Harry Freeman -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040301/aea8b3dc/attachment.html From neale at woozle.org Mon Mar 1 20:09:11 2004 From: neale at woozle.org (Neale Pickett) Date: Mon Mar 1 20:09:16 2004 Subject: I think it's true (Re: [Spambayes] Spambayes as an open mil relay ???) In-Reply-To: <20040302005123.GA7746@unpythonic.net> (Jeff Epler's message of "Mon, 1 Mar 2004 18:51:23 -0600") References: <4043824E.16183.F9FEF33@localhost> <20040301205756.GD6936@unpythonic.net> <20040302005123.GA7746@unpythonic.net> Message-ID: Jeff Epler writes: > sb_smtpproxy should fix this problem by binding only the loopback > interface. Yes. That is the appropriate fix: bind to 127.0.0.1 by default. Neale (lurking) From tim at fourstonesExpressions.com Mon Mar 1 22:33:01 2004 From: tim at fourstonesExpressions.com (Tim Stone) Date: Mon Mar 1 22:33:06 2004 Subject: I think it's true (Re: [Spambayes] Spambayes as an open mil relay ???) In-Reply-To: <20040302005123.GA7746@unpythonic.net> References: <4043824E.16183.F9FEF33@localhost> <20040301205756.GD6936@unpythonic.net> <20040302005123.GA7746@unpythonic.net> Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 18:51:23 -0600, Jeff Epler wrote: > Tim, > > My port-25 SMTP server is not an open relay[1]. Connect from any IP > address outside of a very small set, try to send e-mail to > and you'll get a session like this: > Relay test result > All tests performed, no relays accepted. > Ok, you've convinced me. If you deconfigure the smtp server names and ports on the config page, this connection will drop. I'm going to fix the smtpproxy so that it by default only allows connections from localhost. -- Exprimez vous!; Expr?sese; Esprimi te stesso; Express yourself! Tim Stone See my photography at www.fourstonesExpressions.com From anderson at public.szptt.net.cn Tue Mar 2 04:07:31 2004 From: anderson at public.szptt.net.cn (anderson@public.szptt.net.cn) Date: Tue Mar 2 04:07:39 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy Message-ID: <200403020907.i2297VmV021506@grenada.globat.com> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: SpamBayesServer1.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 525 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040302/12c4f96d/SpamBayesServer1.obj -------------- next part -------------- I am using SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 0.4 (February 2004) (binary), with version 2.3.2+ (#49, Oct 23 2003, 15:50:06) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] of Python; my operating system is Windows 5.1.2600.2 (Service Pack 1). I have trained 94 ham and 79 spam. The problem I am having is [Seems this software do not support doublebyte language emails. In the message training pages, the messages with Chinese subject line would all be shown as garbage codes, no matter what encoding I choose on that page.] From hera at optonline.net Tue Mar 2 05:43:20 2004 From: hera at optonline.net (Erin Lazzaro) Date: Tue Mar 2 05:43:39 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] PocketPC Message-ID: <000001c40043$31668e30$6701a8c0@Peacemaker> Mark, Of course, the step where I reduce to the 5 most misclassified before training has to be done on the desktop -- the Spam field isn't available in Pocket Inbox. Also, my initial test indicated that folder moves (such as dragging from Inbox to Junk or vice versa) from Pocket Inbox aren't seen by SpamBayes -- ActiveSync appears to move the messages outside of Outlook, without notifying the plugin. I may have missed something here. Anybody: If you do "recursive" training with only a few messages added each time, how long should it take to get reasonable results? After three cycles with an increment of 5, last night's results were 2 misclassified ham and 531 misclassified/unsure spam to only 30 correctly classified spam (I didn't get a count of the good ham). Thanks, Erin Lazzaro -----Original Message----- From: "Mark Hammond" Sent: 02/27/2004 00:25:38 To: "'Erin Lazzaro'" , "spambayes@python.org" Subject: RE: [Spambayes] PocketPC > Thank you all for your responses. I have read all the > training pages in the Wiki, and I have devised a _Plan for > Working with Pocket Inbox_. I've only run one daily cycle so > far - I'll report after a week on how good my filters are. > In the meantime, would anyone like to comment? That looks interesting to me. If people find it useful, we could add a facility to SpamBayes - optionally define 'automatic ham training' and 'automatic spam training' folders. When mail arrives in these folders, simply train and move. I even have a Pocket PC I can test with :) A few people saying they would find it useful would help though :) Mark. From poptartgerms at hotmail.com Tue Mar 2 07:30:03 2004 From: poptartgerms at hotmail.com (David Ayres) Date: Tue Mar 2 07:30:07 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Why do I get more spam when using SpamBayes?!? Message-ID: I installed it at home, never got more than a few spam messages, but I wanted to give it a try and keep any future spam messages from starting. As soon as I installed spambayes I started getting tons of spam. Why is that? That's ridiculous? Here I installed a tool to help me stop spam, and it causes more! Aaaargh! Maybe next I'll install some virus scanning software full of viruses. That would be great. Now I'm getting over 50 spam messages daily in my home inbox. That's awesome. I'm a developer myself, so maybe you there's a reason this happens that you can't control. If so, please explain, and I'll try to understand. But as of right now I hate this product. _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! http://clk.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ From papaDoc at videotron.ca Tue Mar 2 08:05:13 2004 From: papaDoc at videotron.ca (papaDoc) Date: Tue Mar 2 08:04:45 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Why do I get more spam when using SpamBayes?!? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40448689.5070302@videotron.ca> Hi David, > I installed it at home, never got more than a few spam messages, but I > wanted to give it a try and keep any future spam messages from > starting. As soon as I installed spambayes I started getting tons of > spam. Why is that? That's ridiculous? Here I installed a tool to > help me stop spam, and it causes more! Aaaargh! Maybe next I'll > install some virus scanning software full of viruses. That would be > great. > > Now I'm getting over 50 spam messages daily in my home inbox. That's > awesome. > > I'm a developer myself, so maybe you there's a reason this happens > that you can't control. If so, please explain, and I'll try to > understand. But as of right now I hate this product. You should ask yourself what did I do before installing spambayes ? Did I look at some spam (with the download image in my email viewer enabled) to test spambayes ? Did I subscribe to some mailing list recently ? Did you enable the experimental options x-slurp-urls ? You should ask yourself this kind of question since spambayes don't send your email address to spammer. The worst thing it can do is if there is link in the mail it can fetch the web page to try to find if the mail is spam or ham but this option is experimental. (You can correct me if I'm wrong). Remi -- /"\ \ / X ASCII Ribbon Campaign / \ Against HTML Email From bwavin at stofanet.dk Tue Mar 2 08:18:15 2004 From: bwavin at stofanet.dk (B Wavin) Date: Tue Mar 2 08:18:10 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Why do I get more spam when using SpamBayes?!? References: <40448689.5070302@videotron.ca> Message-ID: <000a01c40058$d2540420$2c4a6b3e@barrys> Hello David, > I installed it at home, never got more than a few spam messages, but I > wanted to give it a try and keep any future spam messages from > starting. As soon as I installed spambayes I started getting tons of > spam. Why is that? I have used spambayes for around 6 months now to fetch mail from 6 e-mail accounts, 3 are still spam free so I don't believe Spambayes has anything to do with the amount of spam you're getting. Spam has risen explosively in recent times worldwide so I think the reason lies there and not with spambayes. Barry From jepler at unpythonic.net Tue Mar 2 08:42:17 2004 From: jepler at unpythonic.net (Jeff Epler) Date: Tue Mar 2 08:42:34 2004 Subject: I think it's true (Re: [Spambayes] Spambayes as an open mil relay ???) In-Reply-To: References: <4043824E.16183.F9FEF33@localhost> <20040301205756.GD6936@unpythonic.net> <20040302005123.GA7746@unpythonic.net> Message-ID: <20040302134216.GA22280@unpythonic.net> On Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 09:33:01PM -0600, Tim Stone wrote: > Ok, you've convinced me. If you deconfigure the smtp server names > and ports on the config page, this connection will drop. I'm going to fix > the smtpproxy so that it by default only allows connections from localhost. OK, I think that's great. I think this should be announced as a security release, and released as a minimal change to 1.0a9/0.9 ASAP. This is too important to wait for whatever other features or non-security bugfixes slated for the next version. Jeff From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Tue Mar 2 09:56:24 2004 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Tue Mar 2 09:56:32 2004 Subject: I think it's true (Re: [Spambayes] Spambayes as an open mil relay???) Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5022C282@SPIKE.city> On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 14:57:56 -0600, Jeff Epler wrote: > On Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 06:34:54PM -0000, Lee Edward Armstrong wrote: >> However today i came back to my pc after work and saw my net connection >> being hammered....Looked into what my firewall said and the only thing >> running was spambayes ! > > I didn't want to believe this, but it looks like it might be the case. And Tim Stone replied: > This isn't really a hole in spambayes smtpproxy; the smtp server that it's > proxying is an open relay, and that's the problem. We'll put an option in > that attempts to control where the smtpproxy accepts connections from. > > In the meantime, unless you use the smtpproxy for training purposes, it is > absolutely not necessary. Simply leave the smtpproxy servers and ports > list empty on the configuration page, and it won't make those connections, > and all is well... this is the default configuration. And after a bit more discussion, Tim followed up: > Ok, you've convinced me. If you deconfigure the smtp server names > and ports on the config page, this connection will drop. I'm going to fix > the smtpproxy so that it by default only allows connections from localhost. But the ability to restore the SMTP forwarder to its full functionality still lurks as an attractive nuisance, right? Given that you don't need to allow the proxy to forward SMTP mail except for training, how much functionality does that use require? In other words, could you still use the proxy for training, even if you permanently defeated its ability to forward mail not originating on localhost? If not, can you rig the port usage so that enabling the feature for training doesn't allow incoming mail to be relayed? In any case, it would be a good idea to include a warning with the ability to turn forwarding back on. Bob MIS Department, City of Cambridge 831 Massachusetts Ave, Cambridge MA 02139 ? 617-349-4217 ? fax 617-349-6165 From tim at fourstonesExpressions.com Tue Mar 2 10:11:27 2004 From: tim at fourstonesExpressions.com (Tim Stone) Date: Tue Mar 2 10:11:34 2004 Subject: I think it's true (Re: [Spambayes] Spambayes as an open mil relay???) In-Reply-To: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5022C282@SPIKE.city> References: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5022C282@SPIKE.city> Message-ID: On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 09:56:24 -0500, Coe, Bob wrote: > But the ability to restore the SMTP forwarder to its full functionality > still lurks as an attractive nuisance, right? Given that you don't need > to allow the proxy to forward SMTP mail except for training, how much > functionality does that use require? In other words, could you still use > the proxy for training, even if you permanently defeated its ability to > forward mail not originating on localhost? This is exactly what we gotta do. This will in no way impair its use for training. -- Exprimez vous!; Expr?sese; Esprimi te stesso; Express yourself! Tim Stone See my photography at www.fourstonesExpressions.com From tim.one at comcast.net Tue Mar 2 11:19:35 2004 From: tim.one at comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Tue Mar 2 11:19:40 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Why do I get more spam when using SpamBayes?!? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [David Ayres] > I installed it at home, never got more than a few spam messages, but I > wanted to give it a try and keep any future spam messages from > starting. spambayes doesn't do anything to reduce the amount of spam you get -- its goal is to move the spam you get from your main inbox to a different folder. It doesn't do anything to increase the amount of spam you get, either, although it's possible you'll get less to the extent that having spam moved to a different folder inhibits you from "previewing" HTML spam with tracking URLs. > As soon as I installed spambayes I started getting tons of spam. Why > is that? I also got a lot more spam (and more so every month) after installing spambayes. Then, after about a year, it dropped dramatically. Then it picked up again. Then it fell again. I don't expect that any of these had to do with spambayes, and know for a fact that the dramatic drop had to do with one ISP installing better safeguards on their end (I had been getting > 100 spam/day from that one account, and it's dropped to a trickle now). > That's ridiculous? Here I installed a tool to help me stop spam, and > it causes more! I expect you're mistaking correlation for causality. IOW, coincidence. > Aaaargh! Maybe next I'll install some virus scanning > software full of viruses. That would be great. That's possible, and even likely if you install "virus scanning" software you download from a link in spam . > Now I'm getting over 50 spam messages daily in my home inbox. That's > awesome. It's also probably minor compared to what you'll eventually get. > I'm a developer myself, so maybe you there's a reason this happens > that you can't control. You're free to download and examine every line of our source code -- nothing is hidden or secret. That's a protection you can't get from commercial products (both that you can examine it yourself, and that you can bet other people have). > If so, please explain, and I'll try to understand. But as of right > now I hate this product. Well, you're not really required to hate either, but if you have to hate something, of the two it makes more sense to hate the spam . From jbyrd at well.com Tue Mar 2 11:30:58 2004 From: jbyrd at well.com (John Byrd) Date: Tue Mar 2 11:31:07 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Appreciation Message-ID: <002401c40073$be819960$6601a8c0@courtesan> Dear SpamBayes developers, This is just a note of thanks and appreciation for developing SpamBayes. It works like a friggin' miracle. I'm donating some money to the PSF by your request. Thanks! You guys rock! Sincerely, John Byrd www.johnbyrd.com From tim at fourstonesExpressions.com Tue Mar 2 11:33:37 2004 From: tim at fourstonesExpressions.com (Tim Stone) Date: Tue Mar 2 11:33:43 2004 Subject: I think it's true (Re: [Spambayes] Spambayes as an open mil relay ???) In-Reply-To: <20040302134216.GA22280@unpythonic.net> References: <4043824E.16183.F9FEF33@localhost> <20040301205756.GD6936@unpythonic.net> <20040302005123.GA7746@unpythonic.net> <20040302134216.GA22280@unpythonic.net> Message-ID: On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 07:42:17 -0600, Jeff Epler wrote: > On Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 09:33:01PM -0600, Tim Stone wrote: >> Ok, you've convinced me. If you deconfigure the smtp server >> names >> and ports on the config page, this connection will drop. I'm going to >> fix >> the smtpproxy so that it by default only allows connections from >> localhost. > > OK, I think that's great. Jeff, do me a favor and try something for me... I don't have smtpproxy set up on my machine... First, remove your patch. Then, in the smtpproxy configuration, change the listen_ports from whatever they are (e.g. 4025, 4026, 4027) to include an address on each (e.g. localhost:4025, localhost:4026, localhost:4027). I think that should close the hole you've found. If it does, then we really have just a configuration problem, not a deeply rooted systemic problem... Let me know if you can do this, and if so, what the results are. Thanks! -- Exprimez vous!; Expr?sese; Esprimi te stesso; Express yourself! Tim Stone See my photography at www.fourstonesExpressions.com From jepler at unpythonic.net Tue Mar 2 14:17:48 2004 From: jepler at unpythonic.net (Jeff Epler) Date: Tue Mar 2 14:18:11 2004 Subject: I think it's true (Re: [Spambayes] Spambayes as an open mil relay ???) In-Reply-To: References: <4043824E.16183.F9FEF33@localhost> <20040301205756.GD6936@unpythonic.net> <20040302005123.GA7746@unpythonic.net> <20040302134216.GA22280@unpythonic.net> Message-ID: <20040302191747.GF22280@unpythonic.net> On Tue, Mar 02, 2004 at 10:33:37AM -0600, Tim Stone wrote: > Jeff, do me a favor and try something for me... I don't have smtpproxy set > up on my machine... [...] I think that any hostname specified is somehow ignored. I have this in my .spambayesrc: [smtpproxy] remote_servers: localhost listen_ports: localhost:25000 when I start sb_smtpproxy.py it prints SMTP Listener on port 25000 is proxying localhost:25 and connections from another machine are accepted. [With my patch, it prints this SMTP Listener on port localhost:25000 is proxying localhost:25 and connections from another machine are not accepted] The configuration file restricts this item to be made from digits: $ python -c "from spambayes.Options import options ; print options.display_full()" [...] [smtpproxy] listen_ports - "SpamBayes Ports" Default: () Do not restore: 1 Valid values: [\d]+ Multiple values allowed: 1 "Each SMTP server that is being monitored must be assigned to a 'port' in the Spambayes SMTP proxy. This port must be different for each monitored server, and there must be a port for each monitored server. Again, you need to configure your email client to use this port. If there are multiple servers, you must specify the same number of ports as servers, separated by commas." Jeff From jonathan at hotmail.com Tue Mar 2 14:25:33 2004 From: jonathan at hotmail.com (Jonathan) Date: Tue Mar 2 14:25:42 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] asdf Message-ID: asdf From andrewapost at yahoo.com Tue Mar 2 17:19:02 2004 From: andrewapost at yahoo.com (andrewapost@yahoo.com) Date: Tue Mar 2 17:20:05 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] hello Message-ID: something about you! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: attachment.zip Type: application/x-zip-compressed Size: 0 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040302/4acc6e01/attachment.bin From brian.larose at hp.com Tue Mar 2 17:26:52 2004 From: brian.larose at hp.com (LAROSE,BRIAN (HP-USA,ex1)) Date: Tue Mar 2 17:27:10 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Virus / Spam / THANK YOU Message-ID: <2F1E6AB90ECAD311943700A0C9E3B1541651164A@xatl03.atl.hp.com> Bayes Friends, I'm afraid to open this goofy zip attachment, I've been getting a lot of virus/spam directed at the SPAMBayes LIST itself. This is interesting, I wonder if the spammers are trying to take out this open source effort by hitting at the heart of a solution. This will result in an arms race and I know WE WILL WIN. Am I right about this looking suspicious? By the way, I tried SpamBayes for the past 2 weeks and found it to be the single best software product that I have EVER used in 20 years in the IT business. I actually thought that email was broken because it was doing such a good job of sorting ham and spam for me. I LOVE it and I will be making a donation to the python group in your name. Keep up the good work! I'm here to help if I can with the effort, I'll be checking sourceforge for some TODO's to get started. Brian ======== ======== ======== */ * THE Original Bill and Dave */- -- * Company Since 1939 */ //_/* * / * ======== David Packard's Simple Rules: ======== http://hpaway.free.fr/hpway.html ======== Brian LaRose 20 Perimeter Summit Blvd, Atlanta, GA 30319. { Please let me know if you prefer not to receive these e-mails from me. For HP's privacy policy or to obtain contact information, see HP's privacy statement at http://thenew.hp.com/country/us/eng/privacy_intent.html } -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of andrewapost@yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 5:19 PM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] hello something about you! From tim at fourstonesExpressions.com Tue Mar 2 17:48:16 2004 From: tim at fourstonesExpressions.com (Tim Stone) Date: Tue Mar 2 17:48:24 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Virus / Spam / THANK YOU In-Reply-To: <2F1E6AB90ECAD311943700A0C9E3B1541651164A@xatl03.atl.hp.com> References: <2F1E6AB90ECAD311943700A0C9E3B1541651164A@xatl03.atl.hp.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 14:26:52 -0800, LAROSE,BRIAN (HP-USA,ex1) wrote: > Bayes Friends, > > I'm afraid to open this goofy zip attachment, I've been getting a lot of > virus/spam directed at the SPAMBayes LIST itself. This is interesting, I > wonder if the spammers are trying to take out this open source effort by > hitting at the heart of a solution. Mailing lists are very common targets for spammers. Also, they get into people's address books quite regularly, and so end up getting lots of email viruses sent to 'em. Your anti-spam software should be nailing the virus stuff as it enters your computer... > This will result in an arms race and I > know WE WILL WIN. Am I right about this looking suspicious? Yes. > > By the way, I tried SpamBayes for the past 2 weeks and found it to be the > single best software product that I have EVER used in 20 years in the IT > business. Woah, that's saying something! (I presume...) -- Exprimez vous!; Expr?sese; Esprimi te stesso; Express yourself! Tim Stone See my photography at www.fourstonesExpressions.com From brian.larose at hp.com Tue Mar 2 17:53:11 2004 From: brian.larose at hp.com (LAROSE,BRIAN (HP-USA,ex1)) Date: Tue Mar 2 17:53:17 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Virus / Spam / THANK YOU Message-ID: <2F1E6AB90ECAD311943700A0C9E3B15416511667@xatl03.atl.hp.com> > > > > By the way, I tried SpamBayes for the past 2 weeks and found it to be > > the single best software product that I have EVER used in 20 years in > > the IT business. > >Woah, that's saying something! (I presume...) Well, I don't know how much it says, I have a company issued laptop with Micro$haft software which is mostly a piece of crap (for every version). There are many open source tools that I use at work, my favorites are the Linux OS, GNU products (gcc etc), apache/tomcat, and java. Those tools are all GREAT. So I can't overstate this, SpamBayes just ROCKS! Brian From tim at fourstonesExpressions.com Tue Mar 2 18:09:30 2004 From: tim at fourstonesExpressions.com (Tim Stone) Date: Tue Mar 2 18:09:37 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Virus / Spam / THANK YOU In-Reply-To: <2F1E6AB90ECAD311943700A0C9E3B15416511667@xatl03.atl.hp.com> References: <2F1E6AB90ECAD311943700A0C9E3B15416511667@xatl03.atl.hp.com> Message-ID: Should have added a after "I presume..." Glad you like it. We do too :) On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 14:53:11 -0800, LAROSE,BRIAN (HP-USA,ex1) wrote: > > >> > >> > By the way, I tried SpamBayes for the past 2 weeks and found it to be >> > the single best software product that I have EVER used in 20 years in >> > the IT business. >> >> Woah, that's saying something! (I presume...) > > Well, I don't know how much it says, I have a company issued laptop with > Micro$haft software which is mostly a piece of crap (for every version). > There are many open source tools that I use at work, my favorites are the > Linux OS, GNU products (gcc etc), apache/tomcat, and java. > > Those tools are all GREAT. So I can't overstate this, SpamBayes just > ROCKS! > > Brian > -- Exprimez vous!; Expr?sese; Esprimi te stesso; Express yourself! Tim Stone See my photography at www.fourstonesExpressions.com From webmaster at lta.org Tue Mar 2 18:21:18 2004 From: webmaster at lta.org (LTA Webmaster) Date: Tue Mar 2 18:21:23 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Can't get to additional Outlook inboxes to filter them Message-ID: <423763C199328549AACC2C934D177EF844EFDC@emerson.lta.org> Great news on this! I tried Tony's suggestion and it didn't help, so I tried one more thing. I removed the extra mailboxes from my profile and then added them again. It cleared it right up. So Tony was right, something was wrong with the ID, and by removing and re-adding it has cleared it right up! Thanks Tony, your idea was on the right track, it was just easier to solve than you thought! Rebecca -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 11:23 PM To: LTA Webmaster; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Can't get to additional Outlook inboxes to filter them > A week ago I installed Spambayes version .9, at that point > I had Office 2000 on my computer, and I was very pleased > when Spambayes recognized all the additional inboxes I > had setup in my setup of Outlook (rorris, Webmaster, support). > I told it not to filter support, but I loved that it > filtered rorris and Webmaster. Then two days ago I upgraded > to Office 2003, and I noticed that SpamBayes was no longer > filtering my Webmaster inbox, but it is still filtering my > rorris mailbox. SpamBayes currently remembers which folders it is filtering by remembering the internal 'store id' (pst file, Exchange, etc) and 'entry id' (the folder itself) for each folder. I suspect that what has happened here is that as a result of the upgrade process the id for the webmaster mailbox has changed (is it maybe on a different store to the rorris one?). > I looked in the configuration and it still > lists inbox; inbox as being filtered, but when I browse and > try to reset up which folders I want to filter, I run into a > problem. I can't expand the Webmaster mailbox to get to > the inbox, nothing happens when I click on the plus sign. Something's going wrong when SpamBayes tries to access the children of one of the stores, although it's not clear what that is. I'm not familiar enough with the MAPI errors to figure it out, so if this isn't resolved (see below), then I'd suggest submitting a bug report on sourceforge , which means that Mark will notice it sooner or later. > NOTE: I did not uninstall the database files and the > config files, maybe I should try that. Removing/renaming the database files should have no effect on this at all (other than removing your training, obviously). However, removing/renaming the config files should fix this problem; at least it should fix the problem of trying to access the webmaster inbox. Whether it will fix the problem of accessing it in the Manager configuration is another question, but I suspect it will. This is the best bet for a solution; if it doesn't work then the bug report (as above) is probably the next best step. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From jonathan at hotmail.com Tue Mar 2 16:49:53 2004 From: jonathan at hotmail.com (Jonathan) Date: Tue Mar 2 19:16:10 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] asdf Message-ID: asdf From mhammond at keypoint.com.au Tue Mar 2 19:19:18 2004 From: mhammond at keypoint.com.au (Mark Hammond) Date: Tue Mar 2 19:19:39 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] PocketPC In-Reply-To: <000001c40043$31668e30$6701a8c0@Peacemaker> Message-ID: <17bc01c400b5$2c01e9e0$0200a8c0@eden> > Mark, > > Of course, the step where I reduce to the 5 most > misclassified before training has to be done on the desktop > -- the Spam field isn't available in Pocket Inbox. Actually, I wasn't going to make it that clever. > Also, my initial test indicated that folder moves (such as > dragging from Inbox to Junk or vice versa) from Pocket Inbox > aren't seen by SpamBayes -- ActiveSync appears to move the > messages outside of Outlook, without notifying the plugin. I > may have missed something here. That is very likely. Note that what I proposed was very simple - 2 special folders that we watch for new messages. When a message arrives in one, we train and move. This means that the whole '5 most misclassified' thing is skipped - SpamBayes itself may grow smarter incremental training schemes, and this would hook off that. Another way to look at it: if '5 most misclassified' truly was effective in this scenario, presumably it would also be effective when not using the pocket PC. To handle the second issue, we would have to watch these folders in the background. This means we wouldn't see the removal of the message from the 'real' SpamBayes folders, but only the arrival of the message in the new folder - but we can handle that (and is indeed how we handle existing manual classifications) > Anybody: If you do "recursive" training with only a few > messages added each time, how long should it take to get > reasonable results? After three cycles with an increment of > 5, last night's results were 2 misclassified ham and 531 > misclassified/unsure spam to only 30 correctly classified > spam (I didn't get a count of the good ham). This is a common question, but one we really can't answer without actual testing over multiple data sets. Mark. From dontbotherworld at yahoo.com Tue Mar 2 20:48:53 2004 From: dontbotherworld at yahoo.com (dont bother) Date: Tue Mar 2 20:48:56 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam on Messengers, Mobile Phones Message-ID: <20040303014853.65533.qmail@web60802.mail.yahoo.com> Where can I get more information on Spam on Messengers....and Cell phones..... I tried a hell lot on google...googlism did not help me that much.... Any hints? Thanks Dont __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you’re looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com From tim.one at comcast.net Tue Mar 2 21:38:02 2004 From: tim.one at comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Tue Mar 2 21:38:14 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: E-mail account disabling warning. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It shouldn't need to be said, but if you get a message that looks like this: > Dear user of Python.org gateway e-mail server, > > We warn you about some attacks on your e-mail account. Your > computer may contain viruses, in order to keep your computer and > e-mail account safe, please, follow the instructions. > > For details see the attached file. > > For security reasons attached file is password protected. The > password is "28132". > > Cheers, > The Python.org team > http://www.python.org it's not from anyone at python.org, and the zip file attached contains a Windows virus. But if you run it anyway, I'm sure Guido will be happy to fly to your house and clean up your PC. it's-the-least-he-could-do-for-you-ly y'rs - tim From tim at fourstonesExpressions.com Tue Mar 2 22:15:59 2004 From: tim at fourstonesExpressions.com (Tim Stone) Date: Tue Mar 2 22:16:28 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: E-mail account disabling warning. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Oh! Oh! Finally a chance to meet Guido... I cannot resist... On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 21:38:02 -0500, Tim Peters wrote: > It shouldn't need to be said, but if you get a message that looks like > this: > >> Dear user of Python.org gateway e-mail server, >> >> We warn you about some attacks on your e-mail account. Your >> computer may contain viruses, in order to keep your computer and >> e-mail account safe, please, follow the instructions. >> >> For details see the attached file. >> >> For security reasons attached file is password protected. The >> password is "28132". >> >> Cheers, >> The Python.org team >> http://www.python.org > > it's not from anyone at python.org, and the zip file attached contains a > Windows virus. But if you run it anyway, I'm sure Guido will be happy to > fly to your house and clean up your PC. > > it's-the-least-he-could-do-for-you-ly y'rs - tim > > > _______________________________________________ > Spambayes@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > -- Exprimez vous!; Expr?sese; Esprimi te stesso; Express yourself! Tim Stone See my photography at www.fourstonesExpressions.com From donkobayashi at cox.net Tue Mar 2 22:23:45 2004 From: donkobayashi at cox.net (Don Kobayashi) Date: Tue Mar 2 22:24:05 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] where does Spambayes store suspect mail? Message-ID: It doesn't let me see potential spam nor can I access the folders where I assume it's sent. Please help? From support at versiontracker.com Wed Mar 3 02:21:51 2004 From: support at versiontracker.com (support@versiontracker.com) Date: Wed Mar 3 02:22:29 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] VersionTracker Developer Newsletter Message-ID: <200403030721.i237Lp514519@image.techtracker.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040302/770f36ab/attachment.html From fredrik.kant at sungard.com Wed Mar 3 03:52:37 2004 From: fredrik.kant at sungard.com (fredrik.kant@sungard.com) Date: Wed Mar 3 03:52:49 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] 2 Questions: Could a remove mailed stored in Junc E-mail and Junc Suspects Message-ID: when I had trained SpamBays but still want's to have the possibility to continue training. What is not clear for me is if SpamBays needs these mails after words or not? b) I have this idea that one way to implement an Agent for supporting the user's behaviour could be described by Bayesian rules. Do you have information how you are using this technique in more specific terms (or perhaps this is a secret) or now any good documentation. I have of course read a standard course in Statistics years ago and remember when this was used in AI applications but is not enough at the moment to see how this could really be used, at least not in my eyes. Fredrik Kant Application Service Provider Front Capital Systems SunGard Trading Systems World Trade Center, Kungsbron 1 PO Box 70351 SE-107 24 Stockholm, Sweden Tel: +46 8 454 00 00 Fax: +46 8 454 0010 Mobile: +46 70 689 76 24 fredrik.kant@sungard.com > The information transmitted is intended only for the intended recipient and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any further transmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. 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When I get into the configuration webpage I am unable to "configure folders to filter" or "Configure folders to train". When I click on either of these links on the web configuration screen I receive this error message: ------------------------------------------------------------- 500 Server error Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/Dibbler.py", line 461, in found_terminator getattr(plugin, name)(**params) File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/ImapUI.py", line 174, in onFilterfolders available_folders = self.imap.folder_list() File "./sb_imapfilter.py", line 285, in folder_list m = r.search(fol) TypeError: expected string or buffer -------------------------------------------------------------- I ran the "sb_imapfilter.py -b" with debugging "-i 4 -v" and I received this output which I have shortened. It apparently lists every file in my home directory in this debug, so I didn't think that would be of relevance, but maybe something else is? The first section is when I click "configure folder to filter" and the second is "Configure folders to train" -------------------------------------------------------------- ###"configure folder to filter": josh@uxjosh:/usr/local/spambayes/scripts> ./sb_imapfilter.py -b -i 4 -v SpamBayes IMAP Filter Version 0.2 (February 2004) and engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004). Loading state from /home/josh/.hammiedb database /home/josh/.hammiedb is an existing database, with 1 spam and 1 ham Loading database /home/josh/.hammiedb... Done. User interface url is http://localhost:8880/ 22:41.41 > DGCB1 LOGIN josh "" 22:41.48 < DGCB1 OK LOGIN completed 22:41.48 > DGCB2 LIST "" * 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" 1 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" {1} 22:41.50 read literal size 1 22:41.50 < 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" ld 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" ReadMe.txt 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoSelect) "/" bin 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \UnMarked) "/" eal 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoSelect) "/" eps 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoSelect) "/" eps/bin 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" eps/bin/eps_utl 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" eps/bin/eps_record_viewer 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoSelect) "/" eps/lib 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" eps/lib/libeps.so 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoSelect) "/" eps/files 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" eps/files/startup.sh 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoSelect) "/" etc 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" etc/fstab 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoSelect) "/" php 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" php/freight.php 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" php/processorder2.php 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" php/processorder.php 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" php/orderform2.html 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" php/orderform.html 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \UnMarked) "/" ssh .... .... .... .... .... 22:42.28 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" "Application_Kit_rev1/Application_Kit_rev1/ABFA Disclosure_rev1.doc" 22:42.28 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" "Application_Kit_rev1/Application_Kit_rev1/ABFA Tax Disclosure_rev1.doc" 22:42.28 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" openssh-3.7.1p1.tar.gz 22:42.28 < * LIST (\NoSelect) "/" .emacs.d 22:42.28 < * LIST (\NoSelect) "/" .emacs.d/auto-save-list 22:42.28 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \UnMarked) "/" .emacs.d/auto-save-list/.saves-6857-bass.compgen.com~ 22:42.28 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" second.py 22:42.28 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" SalaryReview.pps 22:42.28 < * LIST (\NoSelect) "/" Newspammail 22:42.28 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" maggianos.ps 22:42.28 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" "Strategy Guide.html" 22:42.29 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" cgi_secure.dat.bscolombia 22:42.29 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" changes.txt 22:42.29 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \UnMarked) "/" .hist_josh 22:42.29 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \UnMarked) "/" cgi_start_server 22:42.29 < * LIST (\NoInferiors) NIL INBOX 22:42.29 < DGCB2 OK LIST completed ------------------------------------------------------------ ###"Configure folders to train": 24:53.45 > DGCB3 LIST "" * 24:53.48 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" 1 24:53.48 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" {1} 24:53.48 read literal size 1 24:53.48 < 24:53.48 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" ld 24:53.48 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" ReadMe.txt 24:53.48 < * LIST (\NoSelect) "/" bin 24:53.48 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \UnMarked) "/" eal 24:53.48 < * LIST (\NoSelect) "/" eps 24:53.48 < * LIST (\NoSelect) "/" eps/bin 24:53.48 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" eps/bin/eps_utl 24:53.48 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" eps/bin/eps_record_viewer 24:53.48 < * LIST (\NoSelect) "/" eps/lib 24:53.48 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" eps/lib/libeps.so 24:53.48 < * LIST (\NoSelect) "/" eps/files .... .... .... .... 24:54.24 < * LIST (\NoSelect) "/" .emacs.d/auto-save-list 24:54.24 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \UnMarked) "/" .emacs.d/auto-save-list/.saves-6857-bass.compgen.com~ 24:54.24 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" second.py 24:54.24 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" SalaryReview.pps 24:54.24 < * LIST (\NoSelect) "/" Newspammail 24:54.24 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" maggianos.ps 24:54.24 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" "Strategy Guide.html" 24:54.24 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" cgi_secure.dat.bscolombia 24:54.24 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" changes.txt 24:54.24 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \UnMarked) "/" .hist_josh 24:54.24 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \UnMarked) "/" cgi_start_server 24:54.24 < * LIST (\NoInferiors) NIL INBOX 24:54.24 < DGCB3 OK LIST completed -------------------------------------------------------------- Any ideas on why I am failing to be able to configure the filter and training folders? --Joshua Ross From RTrobaugh at pxauto.com Wed Mar 3 13:11:58 2004 From: RTrobaugh at pxauto.com (Rob Trobaugh) Date: Wed Mar 3 15:41:34 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambays Operation Question Message-ID: <5029BAB89E97D311B8AA00E0C5F409A6418C7E@server> I am running Version 0.9, with Outlook 2000, with Exchange Server. The setting for putting spam in the Spam folder is 90, and for the Unsure folder is above 15.. I am getting Spam put in the Unsure folder with scores of 99 and 100. I do not understand why they are not going into the Spam folder. Any ideas? Thanks in advance -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040303/5e7609eb/attachment.html From postmaster at samos.org Wed Mar 3 14:52:52 2004 From: postmaster at samos.org (postmaster) Date: Wed Mar 3 16:24:34 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Undeliverable Message Message-ID: <0094F2A@samos.org> The message you sent: Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 15:04:31 -0500 To: travelaxe_support@travelaxe.com Cc: Subject: Notify about your e-mail account utilization. Did not reach the following recipient(s): travelaxe_support@travelaxe.com Because: Returned Mail: User Unknown -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: staff@travelaxe.com Subject: Notify about your e-mail account utilization. Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 15:04:31 -0500 Size: 17770 Url: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040303/3da2d58b/attachment-0001.mht From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Mar 3 19:15:40 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Mar 3 19:16:18 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] where does Spambayes store suspect mail? In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13054AFB38@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677A47@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > It doesn't let me see potential spam nor can I access the > folders where I assume it's sent. Please help? By "sent", do you mean "moved"? (When talking about email, "sent" usually means that the message is transmitted from one place to another, not simply shuffled about within a foldering system). What do you mean that you can't access the folders? Do you get some sort of error when you try and look in them? Do you know which folders SpamBayes is moving mail to? (The subject of your message hints towards 'no', but the body towards 'yes'). These will probably be called "Junk" and "Possible Junk", but you can find out for sure by looking at the "Filtering" tab of the SpamBayes Manager dialog (first item on the drop-down menu). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Mar 3 19:18:52 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Mar 3 19:19:57 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] 2 Questions: Could a remove mailed stored in JuncE-mail and Junc Suspects In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13054AFB7C@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2AF6@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > when I had trained SpamBays but still want's > to have the possibility to continue training. > What is not clear for me is if SpamBays needs > these mails after words or not? Short answer, no. Longer answer, see FAQ 4.6: <>http://spambayes.org/faq.html#do-i-need-to-keep-spam-after-it-has-been-tra ined-if-so-for-how-long> > b) I have this idea that one way to implement > an Agent for supporting the user's behaviour > could be described by Bayesian rules. Do you > have information how you are using this technique > in more specific terms (or perhaps this is a secret) > or now any good documentation. There are no secrets here :) The source code is open for anyone to read it - Python's easy enough to read, even if you don't know the language. You can see in classifier.py the main code that does the 'Bayesian' work. A better place to start might be some of the articles that are around. If you look at the background page on our website, there is information and some links there. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Mar 3 19:20:55 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Mar 3 19:21:51 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambays Operation Question In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13054AFCA0@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677A49@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > The setting for putting spam in the Spam folder is 90, > and for the Unsure folder is above 15.. I am getting > Spam put in the Unsure folder with scores of 99 and 100. > I do not understand why they are not going into the > Spam folder. Firstly, are you sure that you've set the spam folder to the folder you think? I know it seems obvious, but it's worth checking this first - look at the Filtering tab of the Manager dialog, and be sure that the folder selections are correct. If they are, then a log file would really help us here. The trouble-shooting guide explains how to find them. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Mar 3 19:22:22 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Mar 3 19:23:00 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Appreciation In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13054AF9B3@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677A4A@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > This is just a note of thanks and appreciation for developing > SpamBayes. It works like a friggin' miracle. Thanks for the kind words - we really appreciate it. > I'm donating some money to the PSF by your request. Thanks for this, too :) =Tony Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Mar 3 19:25:51 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Mar 3 19:26:50 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13054AF8D1@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677A4B@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Seems this software do not support doublebyte language > emails. In the message training pages, the messages with Chinese > subject line would all be shown as garbage codes, no matter what > encoding I choose on that page. Supporting these sorts of languages is much more complex than just this, unfortunately. In particular, the way that SpamBayes creates the tokens that it uses to do all it's work is by splitting the message by whitespace. In English, and similar languages, this basically means "words". In Asian languages, for example, this doesn't mean that at all. My suggestion would be to look at a patch that's on the sourceforge page . It makes various modifications to the code to support Japanese email; I think it's probably generic enough to support Chinese as well. Other than that, the current developers are probably unable to help, since AFAIK, none of us correspond in any Asian languages, and so don't have the skills required to make the necessary changes (which might be too large to incorporate into the main code base anyway). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From fred at lucy.com Wed Mar 3 19:26:47 2004 From: fred at lucy.com (Fred Mertz) Date: Wed Mar 3 19:26:56 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Correcting Database Message-ID: <200403031926470859.02FF6EA5@mail.mindspring.com> Say I make a mistake, call a ham a spam, and hit the Train button before realizing it. Is there any way to correct the error? Thanks. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Mar 3 19:35:46 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Mar 3 19:36:57 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Correcting Database In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13054AFD1E@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677A4C@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Say I make a mistake, call a ham a spam, and hit the Train > button before realizing it. Is there any way to correct the error? Yes. If you're using the Outlook plug-in, then simply go to the Spam folder, and click the "Recover from spam" button. All the appropriate training will be done. If you're using sb_server, then use the "Find message" query on the front page to find the message. It'll present you with the standard review page, with that message on it. Again, do the training, and all the appropriate untraining/retraining will be done. If you're using sb_imapfilter or sb_pop3dnd, then simply move the message into the correct training folder, rerun the filter, and the appropriate training will be done. If you're using sb_mboxtrain, then I don't know the steps :) I'm sure it can be done, though. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From nobody at cgi12.igl.net Wed Mar 3 21:27:09 2004 From: nobody at cgi12.igl.net (nobody@cgi12.igl.net) Date: Wed Mar 3 21:27:12 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] stolen Message-ID: that's funny -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: msg.zip Type: application/x-zip-compressed Size: 0 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040303/7bae9ad3/msg.bin From ed at edhayes.us Thu Mar 4 02:10:59 2004 From: ed at edhayes.us (Ed Hayes) Date: Thu Mar 4 09:24:06 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] feature request Message-ID: <200403040708.i2478gX18786@flyernet.udayton.edu> Im using the latest version of spambayes (.9) with outlook 2003, windows xp. Can there be an option or something where I can change the color of the "delete as spam" and "recover from spam"? I think the delete should be red, and the undelete should be green. That way you cant mistake which one you are clicking. Maybe even change the color of the smiley. I tried to find a place on SF to post this, but I couldn't. So sorry if this isn't the place to post this. Thanks in advance! Great software!! I got this after using spamnet from cloudmark. This is much better! Thanks Ed Hayes (440) 263-4420 www.edhayes.us -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040304/e374845c/attachment-0001.html From Amir_Katz at bmc.com Thu Mar 4 03:26:37 2004 From: Amir_Katz at bmc.com (Katz, Amir) Date: Thu Mar 4 09:25:26 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam in SpamBayes mailing list?? Message-ID: Ironically, we are starting to see a daily dosage of 1-2 spams sneaking into the mailing list - doesn't the SB list manager use SB to kill them? 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It seems like I have the wrong pythoncom23.dll, or ??? What to do? // Anders From skip at pobox.com Thu Mar 4 09:41:31 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Thu Mar 4 09:41:48 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam in SpamBayes mailing list?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <16455.16411.944869.302938@montanaro.dyndns.org> Amir> Ironically, we are starting to see a daily dosage of 1-2 spams Amir> sneaking into the mailing list - doesn't the SB list manager use Amir> SB to kill them? Nope, that's your job. ;-) Skip From tim at fourstonesExpressions.com Thu Mar 4 09:44:17 2004 From: tim at fourstonesExpressions.com (Tim Stone) Date: Thu Mar 4 09:44:25 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam in SpamBayes mailing list?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 02:26:37 -0600, Katz, Amir wrote: > Ironically, we are starting to see a daily dosage of 1-2 spams sneaking > into > the mailing list - doesn't the SB list manager use SB to kill them? No, python.org is the organization that we use for our mailing list, and we don't have decision making authority there. However, there is a better reason for it... spambayes is designed and implemented to be a client side filter.... the list archives are chock full of discussion about server side vs client side filtering. It continues to be our consensus that client side filtering is more effective. So... train your spambayes, and you'll never see the spam that gets sent to the list -- Exprimez vous!; Expr?sese; Esprimi te stesso; Express yourself! Tim Stone See my photography at www.fourstonesExpressions.com From papaDoc at videotron.ca Thu Mar 4 09:47:22 2004 From: papaDoc at videotron.ca (papaDoc) Date: Thu Mar 4 09:46:50 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam in SpamBayes mailing list?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4047417A.8020702@videotron.ca> Hi Amir, > Ironically, we are starting to see a daily dosage of 1-2 spams > sneaking into the mailing list - doesn't the SB list manager use SB to > kill them? The list is not fileterd by SB since somethime we need to include spam mail to explain something or ask info about why this email does that. If the last was filtered we won't be able to do that. Remi -- /"\ \ / X ASCII Ribbon Campaign / \ Against HTML Email From Amir_Katz at bmc.com Thu Mar 4 09:51:35 2004 From: Amir_Katz at bmc.com (Katz, Amir) Date: Thu Mar 4 09:54:43 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam in SpamBayes mailing list?? Message-ID: Of course I do that... -----Original Message----- From: Skip Montanaro [mailto:skip@pobox.com] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 16:42 To: Katz, Amir Cc: Spambayes mailing list (E-mail) Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Spam in SpamBayes mailing list?? Amir> Ironically, we are starting to see a daily dosage of 1-2 spams Amir> sneaking into the mailing list - doesn't the SB list manager use Amir> SB to kill them? Nope, that's your job. ;-) Skip From Amir_Katz at bmc.com Thu Mar 4 09:53:36 2004 From: Amir_Katz at bmc.com (Katz, Amir) Date: Thu Mar 4 09:55:17 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam in SpamBayes mailing list?? Message-ID: This makes sense. Thanks. BTW, I deployed SB at home (with Outlook Express) and I get 100% precision - no false positives or negatives. -----Original Message----- From: papaDoc [mailto:papaDoc@videotron.ca] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 16:47 To: Katz, Amir; spambayes@python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Spam in SpamBayes mailing list?? Hi Amir, > Ironically, we are starting to see a daily dosage of 1-2 spams > sneaking into the mailing list - doesn't the SB list manager use SB to > kill them? The list is not fileterd by SB since somethime we need to include spam mail to explain something or ask info about why this email does that. If the last was filtered we won't be able to do that. Remi -- /"\ \ / X ASCII Ribbon Campaign / \ Against HTML Email From tpeters at mixcom.com Thu Mar 4 11:16:45 2004 From: tpeters at mixcom.com (Tom Peters) Date: Thu Mar 4 11:18:44 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Important notify about your e-mail account. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <57507.67.36.83.25.1078417005.squirrel@webmail.athenet.net> Ok, I'm missing it. Why are these being passed on by the spambayes mailing list? My ISP is warning that these are being sent to a lot of users of various ISPs and apparently reflectors, and that the password foils most virus scanners, and that yes, the attachment is viral (usually Beagle.K) so don't open it. Answering my own question, perhaps this is an unmoderated reflector with no human intervention in the subscription process..? > Dear user of e-mail server "Python.org", > > We warn you about some attacks on your e-mail account. Your computer > may > contain viruses, in order to keep your computer and e-mail account safe, > please, follow the instructions. > > For details see the attach. > > In order to read the attach you have to use the following password: > 85076. > > Have a good day, > The Python.org team http://www.python.org > _______________________________________________ > Spambayes@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From xnBdaRHw at pacific.net.hk Thu Mar 4 06:23:56 2004 From: xnBdaRHw at pacific.net.hk (xnBdaRHw@pacific.net.hk) Date: Thu Mar 4 11:19:22 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Fw Message-ID: <200403041619.i24GJ5TR066896@mxzilla8.xs4all.nl> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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McAfee is probably doing this, and may be reporting the location of the virus exe as the working directory of the process that read the network data. The SpamBayes proxy also writes a copy of the raw data for each message (again, without extracting any attachments) to a cache directory as it is received. This data might also trigger your virus scanner, but it is less likely because in this case the virus scanner does not know that the file data is an e-mail message and so it doesn't decode the contents. If it did detect this, the location would probably show up under your "Documents and Settings" folder instead of the SpamBayes installation folder. -- Kenny Pitt _____ From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Katz, Amir Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 7:07 AM To: Spambayes mailing list (E-mail) Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes proxy, Outlook Express & anti-virus I'm running SB at home with OE and MacAfee VirusScan. Every so often the AV pops up and reports that a virus was found in file .exe which is located in what seems to be SB's working directory. My assumption is that SB assembles the mail's attachments prior to examining the full message and as soon as an attachment (which is an exe file) is created, the AV kicks in and correctly shoots it. Questions: 1) Is this scenario correct? If no, what really happens? 2) If yes, is there a way to tell SB not to assemble attachments and avoid the remote chance that the exe will remain there? Thanks, Amir Katz, CISSP "The C Programming Language - A language which combines the flexibility of assembly language with the power of assembly language." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040304/4dc762af/attachment.html From Amir_Katz at bmc.com Thu Mar 4 12:29:54 2004 From: Amir_Katz at bmc.com (Katz, Amir) Date: Thu Mar 4 13:15:14 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes proxy, Outlook Express & anti-virus Message-ID: Thanks for the detailed explanation. FWIW, SB and the AV together are shooting down all threats and annoyances. -----Original Message----- From: Kenny Pitt [mailto:kennypitt@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 19:12 To: 'Katz, Amir'; 'Spambayes mailing list (E-mail)' Subject: RE: [Spambayes] SpamBayes proxy, Outlook Express & anti-virus SpamBayes does not extract or "assemble" any attachments inside mail messages. However, most virus scanners detect virus attachments as the message data is read over the network, i.e. the virus scanner also understands the format of the message and can detect the virus while it is still inside the message before it has a chance to do any harm. McAfee is probably doing this, and may be reporting the location of the virus exe as the working directory of the process that read the network data. The SpamBayes proxy also writes a copy of the raw data for each message (again, without extracting any attachments) to a cache directory as it is received. This data might also trigger your virus scanner, but it is less likely because in this case the virus scanner does not know that the file data is an e-mail message and so it doesn't decode the contents. If it did detect this, the location would probably show up under your "Documents and Settings" folder instead of the SpamBayes installation folder. -- Kenny Pitt _____ From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Katz, Amir Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 7:07 AM To: Spambayes mailing list (E-mail) Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes proxy, Outlook Express & anti-virus I'm running SB at home with OE and MacAfee VirusScan. Every so often the AV pops up and reports that a virus was found in file .exe which is located in what seems to be SB's working directory. My assumption is that SB assembles the mail's attachments prior to examining the full message and as soon as an attachment (which is an .exe file) is created, the AV kicks in and correctly shoots it. Questions: 1) Is this scenario correct? If no, what really happens? 2) If yes, is there a way to tell SB not to assemble attachments and avoid the remote chance that the exe will remain there? Thanks, Amir Katz, CISSP "The C Programming Language - A language which combines the flexibility of assembly language with the power of assembly language." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040304/7914b23a/attachment.html From kennypitt at hotmail.com Thu Mar 4 12:30:59 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Thu Mar 4 13:15:18 2004 Subject: I think it's true (Re: [Spambayes] Spambayes as an open milrelay???) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Tim Stone wrote: > On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 09:56:24 -0500, Coe, Bob > wrote: > >> But the ability to restore the SMTP forwarder to its full >> functionality still lurks as an attractive nuisance, right? Given >> that you don't need to allow the proxy to forward SMTP mail except >> for training, how much functionality does that use require? In other >> words, could you still use the proxy for training, even if you >> permanently defeated its ability to forward mail not originating on >> localhost? > > This is exactly what we gotta do. This will in no way impair its use > for training. I've seen posts from people who are using SpamBayes on a shared server for several users, and the users all forward mail to be trained through the same smtpproxy instance. This would require access from remote machines other than localhost. I personally liked the idea of adding the "remote connections" option to SMTP proxy as well as the proxy UI, requiring users to explicitly list any remote systems that they want to allow to use the SMTP proxy. -- Kenny Pitt From kennypitt at hotmail.com Thu Mar 4 12:42:18 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Thu Mar 4 13:15:28 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] feature request In-Reply-To: <200403040708.i2478gX18786@flyernet.udayton.edu> Message-ID: Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Given >>> that you don't need to allow the proxy to forward SMTP mail except >>> for training, how much functionality does that use require? In other >>> words, could you still use the proxy for training, even if you >>> permanently defeated its ability to forward mail not originating on >>> localhost? >> >> This is exactly what we gotta do. This will in no way impair its use >> for training. > > I've seen posts from people who are using SpamBayes on a shared server > for several users, and the users all forward mail to be trained through > the same smtpproxy instance. This would require access from remote > machines other than localhost. > > I personally liked the idea of adding the "remote connections" option to > SMTP proxy as well as the proxy UI, requiring users to explicitly list > any remote systems that they want to allow to use the SMTP proxy. That's exactly what I'm working on... it's a bit tricky, but should be manageable. Testing it? Now THAT'S another proposition > -- Exprimez vous!; Expr?sese; Esprimi te stesso; Express yourself! Tim Stone See my photography at www.fourstonesExpressions.com From bill at parducci.net Thu Mar 4 13:22:51 2004 From: bill at parducci.net (bill) Date: Thu Mar 4 13:22:57 2004 Subject: I think it's true (Re: [Spambayes] Spambayes as an open milrelay???) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <404773FB.8040402@parducci.net> > I've seen posts from people who are using SpamBayes on a shared server > for several users, and the users all forward mail to be trained through > the same smtpproxy instance. This would require access from remote > machines other than localhost. FWIW i perform the same basic functionality using procmail and a common hammiedb (with no open relay issues ;o) b From kennypitt at hotmail.com Thu Mar 4 12:01:46 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Thu Mar 4 13:35:13 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Help In-Reply-To: <000801c3fe41$9517f350$6701a8c0@gamer> Message-ID: I'm running a little behind on reading the list, but I don't see any responses to this yet so I'll jump in. On the Configuration page, you can change the port that SpamBayes uses to any non-conflicting port. I use something like 8110 for SpamBayes. Just make sure that you change your e-mail client configuration so that it talks to the new port instead of to the default 110. -- Kenny Pitt _____ From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Rick Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 4:27 PM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Help I don't know if threre is a fix or work around. I use spambayes and love it but I also like to you Firetrust benign with it but I have a conflict as they both can't seem to share port 110. Can you be of any help. Thanks Rick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040304/7cbcbd05/attachment.html From tim.one at comcast.net Thu Mar 4 13:53:02 2004 From: tim.one at comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Thu Mar 4 13:53:08 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Important notify about your e-mail account. In-Reply-To: <57507.67.36.83.25.1078417005.squirrel@webmail.athenet.net> Message-ID: [Tom Peters] > Ok, I'm missing it. Why are these being passed on by the spambayes > mailing list? It's an open and unmoderated list -- anyone can post here, not just subscribers. From eliane at jbilocalization.com Thu Mar 4 14:35:27 2004 From: eliane at jbilocalization.com (eliane) Date: Thu Mar 4 14:35:36 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] spam bayes doesn't filter Message-ID: <000601c4021f$d9567460$6f02a8c0@ELIANE> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: spambayes4.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 1174 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040304/54b00218/spambayes4.obj From vernon.lyles at state.co.us Thu Mar 4 15:25:02 2004 From: vernon.lyles at state.co.us (vernon.lyles@state.co.us) Date: Thu Mar 4 15:26:18 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Outlook Addin 0.81 install error Message-ID: <61B606781E127B4691623C7E4DA45952648EDF@exchange.state.co.us> Dear Sir or Madame: While I was installing Spambayes Outlook Addin .81 I encountered this error: <<...OLE_Obj...>> I looked on your web site and couldn't find a solution. Could you please send me a resolution to this issue. Thank you, Vernon D. Lyles Computer Operator I Department of Personnel and Administration Division of Information Technology 1525 Sherman St. Suite B25 Denver, CO 80203 303 866 4583 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE - This e-mail transmission, and any documents, files or previous e-mail messages attached to it may contain information that is confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, or a person responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you must not read this transmission and that any disclosure, copying, printing, distribution or use of any of the information contained in or attached to this transmission is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately notify the sender by telephone or return e-mail and delete the original transmission and its attachments without reading or saving in any manner. Thank you From tim.one at comcast.net Thu Mar 4 16:01:32 2004 From: tim.one at comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Thu Mar 4 16:08:25 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Outlook Addin 0.81 install error In-Reply-To: <61B606781E127B4691623C7E4DA45952648EDF@exchange.state.co.us> Message-ID: [vernon.lyles@state.co.us] > While I was installing Spambayes Outlook Addin .81 I encountered this > error: > > <<...OLE_Obj...>> Sorry, your attempt to include the error didn't work. Instead, please just tell us in English what the error was. From chris at pressenter.com Thu Mar 4 15:56:30 2004 From: chris at pressenter.com (Chris Feyereisen) Date: Thu Mar 4 16:10:49 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problems getting Spam Bayes to work. Message-ID: To whom it may concern: I am having an issues with my installation of Spam Bayes. It was working well until yesterday, but then I added an additional email account to be screened for spam. It worked fine at first than this morning when I turned on Machine and opened outlook I get a message saying Spam Bayes is unable to initialize, can't find selected inbox to scan. So I go into the Spam Bayes Manager and look at the filters tab and I can't see any folders at all. Not even the Personal folders, so I can't select the Email I want to have the program scan. I can though see the Junk mail, and Junk suspects is the spam tabs. I have tried uninstalling and re-installing, I have tried the newest version, and still I cannot get it to work. I am running Outlook 2000 with an exchange server. Thank you, Chris Feyereisen PressEnter LLP chris@pressenter.com (715) 377-0746 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040304/d2292184/attachment-0001.html From j.jachetta at multidyne.com Thu Mar 4 16:42:04 2004 From: j.jachetta at multidyne.com (Jim Jachetta - MULTIDYNE Inc.) Date: Thu Mar 4 16:56:18 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Importing a White List of Emails into Spam Bayes Message-ID: Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Jim Jachetta - Multidyne.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 518 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040304/421d09e6/JimJachetta-Multidyne.vcf From SB-User-List at Xunu.com Thu Mar 4 17:06:31 2004 From: SB-User-List at Xunu.com (Max) Date: Thu Mar 4 17:45:44 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problems getting Spambayes IMAP Filter to work Message-ID: <1480.172.152.125.246.1078437991.spork@webmail.xunu.com> I downloaded and installed SpamBayes 1.0a9 and am using the IMAP Filter, sb-imapfilter.py, on a Win 98 SE Pentium 120MHz PC. These are the script versions that display when I execute the script from the MS-DOS Shell: "SpamBayes IMAP Filter Version 0.2 (February 2004) and engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004)". It runs fine as a localhost:8880 site in MS IE 6.0, and I am able to use the configuration pages perfectly well, but when I try to access the pages to specify the mailbox folders to filter and those to use for training, this is what I get (sans the "=" sign lines): ================================================================================ Spambayes Web Interface: Home > Select Training Folders 500 Server error Traceback (most recent call last): File "C:\PROGRAM FILES\DEVTOOLS\PYTHON\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\Dibbler.py", line 461, in found_terminator getattr(plugin, name)(**params) File "C:\PROGRAM FILES\DEVTOOLS\PYTHON\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\ImapUI.py", line 222, in onTrainingfolders self._login_to_imap() File "C:\PROGRAM FILES\DEVTOOLS\PYTHON\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\ImapUI.py", line 217, in _login_to_imap self.imap.login(username, self.imap_pwd) File "sb_ima~1.py", line 212, in login BaseIMAP.login(self, username, pwd) # superclass login File "C:\PROGRAM FILES\DEVTOOLS\PYTHON\lib\imaplib.py", line 471, in login typ, dat = self._simple_command('LOGIN', user, self._quote(password)) File "C:\PROGRAM FILES\DEVTOOLS\PYTHON\lib\imaplib.py", line 1000, in _simple_command return self._command_complete(name, self._command(name, *args)) File "C:\PROGRAM FILES\DEVTOOLS\PYTHON\lib\imaplib.py", line 794, in _command raise self.abort('socket error: %s' % val) abort: socket error: (10054, 'Connection reset by peer') ================================================================================ Obviously, I cannot use the script until this problem is resolved. Any help to that end would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance! Yours very truly, Max From wayne at afterhourscomputing.com Thu Mar 4 17:48:48 2004 From: wayne at afterhourscomputing.com (Wayne Kantor) Date: Thu Mar 4 17:48:58 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Do you have a Macintosh Product Message-ID: <002301c4023a$dd3ba990$6401a8c0@ahcpc> Do you have a Macintosh Product? Wayne Kantor DBA After Hours Computing 170 Eli Drive Winchendon, MA 01475 V: (978) 297-0160 E: Wayne@AfterHoursComputing.com From gschmidt at pobox.com Thu Mar 4 18:20:18 2004 From: gschmidt at pobox.com (Gerry Schmidt) Date: Thu Mar 4 18:20:25 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes 0.9 Message-ID: I've been using Spambayes for quite some time now and absolutely LOVE it. I just recently upgraded to version 0.9 and I've noticed a significant increase in the number of good messages from people I get e-mail from all the time, that are being dropped into the suspect box. Up to this point, I've only had 1 real message end up there. Since 0.9 I'm getting at least 1 in there almost daily. Is anyone else experiencing this? My details: Running on Outlook 2003 (fully service packed) Windows XP Pro, fully service packed Not sure what else you might want to know. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040304/826f0556/attachment.html From Robert.Mezzone at PJSolomon.Com Thu Mar 4 18:54:05 2004 From: Robert.Mezzone at PJSolomon.Com (Robert Mezzone) Date: Thu Mar 4 18:54:17 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes 0.9 Message-ID: <1254A68F4903D411B24800508B1220E9037A8185@solomon1.pjsc.internal> I have the same problem and exact samr configuration. The vast majority of junk-suspect messages are from users in my company, the same 6our users, regardless of how many times I recover them from Spam. I've just learned to deal with it, otherwise I have zero complaints, and neither do my users. Robert -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org To: spambayes@python.org Sent: Thu Mar 04 18:20:18 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes 0.9 I've been using Spambayes for quite some time now and absolutely LOVE it. I just recently upgraded to version 0.9 and I've noticed a significant increase in the number of good messages from people I get e-mail from all the time, that are being dropped into the suspect box. Up to this point, I've only had 1 real message end up there. Since 0.9 I'm getting at least 1 in there almost daily. Is anyone else experiencing this? My details: Running on Outlook 2003 (fully service packed) Windows XP Pro, fully service packed Not sure what else you might want to know. From p.romerovila at clix.pt Thu Mar 4 20:07:56 2004 From: p.romerovila at clix.pt (p.romerovila@clix.pt) Date: Thu Mar 4 20:07:58 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] warning Message-ID: something is going wrong! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Colin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040305/461dd584/attachment.html From spambayes at djl.freeuk.com Fri Mar 5 05:48:47 2004 From: spambayes at djl.freeuk.com (David Leftley) Date: Fri Mar 5 05:48:53 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Importing a White List of Emails into Spam Bayes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 16:42:04 -0500, "Jim Jachetta - MULTIDYNE Inc." wrote: >Is there a simple way to import a white list or good email addresses into >Spam Bayes? The program is excellent. An import feature would be great. > Not in SpamBayes itself, but InBoxer (a commercial product that uses the SpamBayes code) has this feature. See www.inboxer.com if you are interested. David. From gmccormick at erols.com Fri Mar 5 08:44:41 2004 From: gmccormick at erols.com (Jerry/Jane mcCormick) Date: Fri Mar 5 08:44:02 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem Message-ID: I keep getting the following msg popping up on my computer when using spambayes: "You can not specify folder"Personal Folders/Inbox" as both the unsure folder, and as being watched." This did not start occurring until I upgraded to ver .9 Any help you can send me will be greatly appreciated. From kennypitt at hotmail.com Fri Mar 5 09:20:44 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Fri Mar 5 09:22:04 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] spam bayes doesn't filter In-Reply-To: <000601c4021f$d9567460$6f02a8c0@ELIANE> Message-ID: Your log shows that you have trained a lot more spam messages than good messages which could affect the accuracy of the filter, but other than that nothing looks out of the ordinary. Could you be a little more specific about what you mean by "doesn't filter anymore"? Are messages not getting scored at all, spam messages scoring below the spam threshold, or messages being scored as spam but not moved? Try highlighting a message that didn't "filter" properly and then selecting "Show spam clues" from the SpamBayes menu. What does it show for a combined score? If the score is above your spam threshold then messages aren't being moved for some reason. See if you can find some additional log files (spambayes4.log is usually the oldest log, while spambayes1.log would be the most recent). If the score is below the spam threshold then try forwarding the clues to the list and someone may be able to help you understand why the message isn't scoring properly. -- Kenny Pitt _____ From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of eliane Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 2:35 PM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] spam bayes doesn't filter I'm using windows xp. 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Try downloading and installing the 0.9 version. This was a common problem with 0.81, but most people have reported that 0.9 fixes it. P.S. The screen cap in the Word doc made it through, but it would still be much better to just type the text that you see in the message box into the mail message. In this day and age, opening any attached document from a public list is risky at best. -- Kenny Pitt From kennypitt at hotmail.com Fri Mar 5 09:53:48 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Fri Mar 5 09:54:51 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Is it possible to have a spambayes button on a "FIND"screen? In-Reply-To: <000001c4027b$25c1fe40$0202a8c0@IBM> Message-ID: There isn't a built-in way to do it, but there are ways that it can be accomplished. Here's the easiest procedure I can think of off the top of my head: 1. Create two folders called something like "Ham for Training" and "Spam for Training". 2. Use Advanced Find to search for messages 3. Copy the messages you're interested in into the appropriate training folders 4. Use the Training tab in SpamBayes Manager to browse for and train on the training folders -- Kenny Pitt _____ From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Bruce Johnson Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 1:29 AM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Is it possible to have a spambayes button on a "FIND"screen? I have Outlook 2002 with SpamBayes. I would like to have the SpamBayes Delete as and Restore buttons on the Advanced Find windows. That way, I can do a search, based on a criteria, and then have Spambayes learn these type of messages (I know it would be a different "learning" method then my criteria) Does anybody know if this is able to be done? How do I do it? Thanks Bruce -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040305/5c227b50/attachment.html From Joshua.Ross at intec.us Fri Mar 5 12:35:09 2004 From: Joshua.Ross at intec.us (Joshua L Ross) Date: Fri Mar 5 12:33:21 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Errors when setting up IMAP folders to filter and train using the web interface In-Reply-To: <1078342396.5651.18.camel@uxjosh.compgen.com> References: <1078342396.5651.18.camel@uxjosh.compgen.com> Message-ID: <1078508109.5972.11.camel@uxjosh.compgen.com> On Wed, 2004-03-03 at 14:33, Joshua L Ross wrote: > Hi > > Here are my details: > Suse 9.0 > Spambayes 1.0a9 > IMAP mail > --> not located in my home directory > Evolution 1.4 mail client > > --Traceback and debug logging listed below-- > > > I am attempting to use the command "sb_imapfilter.py -b" to start the > web configuration for IMAP. When I get into the configuration webpage I > am unable to "configure folders to filter" or "Configure folders to > train". When I click on either of these links on the web configuration > screen I receive this error message: > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > 500 Server error > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/Dibbler.py", line 461, in found_terminator > getattr(plugin, name)(**params) > > File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/ImapUI.py", line 174, in onFilterfolders > available_folders = self.imap.folder_list() > > File "./sb_imapfilter.py", line 285, in folder_list > m = r.search(fol) > > TypeError: expected string or buffer > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > I ran the "sb_imapfilter.py -b" with debugging "-i 4 -v" and I received > this output which I have shortened. It apparently lists every file in > my home directory in this debug, so I didn't think that would be of > relevance, but maybe something else is? The first section is when I > click "configure folder to filter" and the second is "Configure folders > to train" > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ###"configure folder to filter": > > josh@uxjosh:/usr/local/spambayes/scripts> ./sb_imapfilter.py -b -i 4 -v > SpamBayes IMAP Filter Version 0.2 (February 2004) > and engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004). > > Loading state from /home/josh/.hammiedb database > /home/josh/.hammiedb is an existing database, with 1 spam and 1 ham > Loading database /home/josh/.hammiedb... Done. > User interface url is http://localhost:8880/ > 22:41.41 > DGCB1 LOGIN josh "" > 22:41.48 < DGCB1 OK LOGIN completed > 22:41.48 > DGCB2 LIST "" * > 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" 1 > 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" {1} > 22:41.50 read literal size 1 > 22:41.50 < > 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" ld > 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" ReadMe.txt > 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoSelect) "/" bin > 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \UnMarked) "/" eal > 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoSelect) "/" eps > 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoSelect) "/" eps/bin > 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" eps/bin/eps_utl > 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" eps/bin/eps_record_viewer > 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoSelect) "/" eps/lib > 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" eps/lib/libeps.so > 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoSelect) "/" eps/files > 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" eps/files/startup.sh > 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoSelect) "/" etc > 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" etc/fstab > 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoSelect) "/" php > 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" php/freight.php > 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" php/processorder2.php > 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" php/processorder.php > 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" php/orderform2.html > 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" php/orderform.html > 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \UnMarked) "/" ssh > .... > .... > .... > .... > .... > 22:42.28 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" "Application_Kit_rev1/Application_Kit_rev1/ABFA Disclosure_rev1.doc" > 22:42.28 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" "Application_Kit_rev1/Application_Kit_rev1/ABFA Tax Disclosure_rev1.doc" > 22:42.28 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" openssh-3.7.1p1.tar.gz > 22:42.28 < * LIST (\NoSelect) "/" .emacs.d > 22:42.28 < * LIST (\NoSelect) "/" .emacs.d/auto-save-list > 22:42.28 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \UnMarked) "/" .emacs.d/auto-save-list/.saves-6857-bass.compgen.com~ > 22:42.28 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" second.py > 22:42.28 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" SalaryReview.pps > 22:42.28 < * LIST (\NoSelect) "/" Newspammail > 22:42.28 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" maggianos.ps > 22:42.28 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" "Strategy Guide.html" > 22:42.29 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" cgi_secure.dat.bscolombia > 22:42.29 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" changes.txt > 22:42.29 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \UnMarked) "/" .hist_josh > 22:42.29 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \UnMarked) "/" cgi_start_server > 22:42.29 < * LIST (\NoInferiors) NIL INBOX > 22:42.29 < DGCB2 OK LIST completed > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > ###"Configure folders to train": > > 24:53.45 > DGCB3 LIST "" * > 24:53.48 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" 1 > 24:53.48 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" {1} > 24:53.48 read literal size 1 > 24:53.48 < > 24:53.48 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" ld > 24:53.48 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" ReadMe.txt > 24:53.48 < * LIST (\NoSelect) "/" bin > 24:53.48 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \UnMarked) "/" eal > 24:53.48 < * LIST (\NoSelect) "/" eps > 24:53.48 < * LIST (\NoSelect) "/" eps/bin > 24:53.48 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" eps/bin/eps_utl > 24:53.48 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" eps/bin/eps_record_viewer > 24:53.48 < * LIST (\NoSelect) "/" eps/lib > 24:53.48 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" eps/lib/libeps.so > 24:53.48 < * LIST (\NoSelect) "/" eps/files > .... > .... > .... > .... > 24:54.24 < * LIST (\NoSelect) "/" .emacs.d/auto-save-list > 24:54.24 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \UnMarked) "/" .emacs.d/auto-save-list/.saves-6857-bass.compgen.com~ > 24:54.24 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" second.py > 24:54.24 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" SalaryReview.pps > 24:54.24 < * LIST (\NoSelect) "/" Newspammail > 24:54.24 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" maggianos.ps > 24:54.24 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" "Strategy Guide.html" > 24:54.24 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" cgi_secure.dat.bscolombia > 24:54.24 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" changes.txt > 24:54.24 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \UnMarked) "/" .hist_josh > 24:54.24 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \UnMarked) "/" cgi_start_server > 24:54.24 < * LIST (\NoInferiors) NIL INBOX > 24:54.24 < DGCB3 OK LIST completed > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Any ideas on why I am failing to be able to configure the filter and > training folders? > > > --Joshua Ross Been toying with this, and I guess what is occurring is that the IMAP folders can't be determined. I don't know much python but from what I can tell, even if you set the fitler_folders and spam_folders in the .spambayesrc file it still cannot find/use these using IMAP. I attempted to run a classification after setting the above filter_folders option and received this response: ---- .spambayesrc IMAP configurations(excluding server and password of course): +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ filter_folders=/trout/home/josh/INBOX spam_folder=/trout/home/josh/mail/Newspammail unsure_folder=/trout/home/josh/mail/Unsuremail ---- Running a classification here is what I receive: +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ josh@uxjosh:/usr/local/spambayes/scripts> ./sb_imapfilter.py -c -d /home/josh/.hammiedb -v SpamBayes IMAP Filter Version 0.2 (February 2004) and engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004). Loading state from /home/josh/.hammiedb database /home/josh/.hammiedb is an existing database, with 1 spam and 1 ham Loading database /home/josh/.hammiedb... Done. Classifying Invalid response to select /trout/home/josh/mail/Newspammail: ('NO', ["SELECT failed: Can't open /trout/home/josh/mail/Newspammail: not a selectable mailbox"]) josh@uxjosh:/usr/local/spambayes/scripts> **** This error message is coming from outside this script, and I haven't been able to determine from where. Now, if I remove these options I get a bit different message, which is what should be nearly identical to what is happening in the browser when clicking "configure folders to filer" option: ---- No .spambayesrc IMAP configurations except username, server, and password. ---- josh@uxjosh:/usr/local/spambayes/scripts> ./sb_imapfilter.py -c -d /home/josh/.hammiedb -v SpamBayes IMAP Filter Version 0.2 (February 2004) and engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004). Loading state from /home/josh/.hammiedb database /home/josh/.hammiedb is an existing database, with 1 spam and 1 ham Loading database /home/josh/.hammiedb... Done. Classifying Tried to select an invalid folder josh@uxjosh:/usr/local/spambayes/scripts> ***** This is emitted from line 256 in sb_imapfilter.py. It is printed if the folder equals nothing. So if I set the folders manually it fails on selecting them and if I don't set them it can't find/set them either. Any help would be greatly appreciated! -Joshua- From JCHaven at airpower-usa.com Fri Mar 5 14:32:57 2004 From: JCHaven at airpower-usa.com (Charles Haven) Date: Fri Mar 5 14:36:20 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes 0.9 Message-ID: Skipped content of type multipart/alternative From spambayesspambayes at WEBTV.NET Fri Mar 5 17:05:33 2004 From: spambayesspambayes at WEBTV.NET (Ting-Pong Oh) Date: Fri Mar 5 17:05:37 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] B^uying CI`AL1S & LE`VITRA Online has never been easier and can now be shipped w0r1dw1de! Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040305/11456a6f/attachment.html From Robert.Mezzone at PJSolomon.Com Fri Mar 5 20:31:18 2004 From: Robert.Mezzone at PJSolomon.Com (Robert Mezzone) Date: Fri Mar 5 20:31:34 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes 0.9 Message-ID: <1254A68F4903D411B24800508B1220E9037A81AC@solomon1.pjsc.internal> I'm not at work right now so I can't check the value, but I do know it's higher than the default setting. I remember changing it a while back. Thanks for the suggestion. I wouldn't mind seeing a feature where you can exclude all users in the GAL or personal contact list, if that's possible. Robert -----Original Message----- From: Charles Haven To: Robert Mezzone ; 'gschmidt@pobox.com' ; 'spambayes@python.org' Sent: Fri Mar 05 14:32:57 2004 Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Spambayes 0.9 Have you tried raising the score threshold for suspect email? - Charles -----Original Message----- From: Robert Mezzone [ mailto:Robert.Mezzone@PJSolomon.Com] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 6:54 PM To: 'gschmidt@pobox.com'; 'spambayes@python.org' Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Spambayes 0.9 I have the same problem and exact samr configuration. The vast majority of junk-suspect messages are from users in my company, the same 6our users, regardless of how many times I recover them from Spam. I've just learned to deal with it, otherwise I have zero complaints, and neither do my users. Robert -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org To: spambayes@python.org Sent: Thu Mar 04 18:20:18 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes 0.9 I've been using Spambayes for quite some time now and absolutely LOVE it. I just recently upgraded to version 0.9 and I've noticed a significant increase in the number of good messages from people I get e-mail from all the time, that are being dropped into the suspect box. Up to this point, I've only had 1 real message end up there. Since 0.9 I'm getting at least 1 in there almost daily. Is anyone else experiencing this? My details: Running on Outlook 2003 (fully service packed) Windows XP Pro, fully service packed Not sure what else you might want to know. _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html DISCLAIMER: The information in this message is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this message by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, or distribution of the message, or any action or omission taken by you in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Please immediately contact the sender if you have received this message in error. Thank you. From mhammond at keypoint.com.au Fri Mar 5 21:46:59 2004 From: mhammond at keypoint.com.au (Mark Hammond) Date: Fri Mar 5 21:47:20 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes 0.9 In-Reply-To: <1254A68F4903D411B24800508B1220E9037A8185@solomon1.pjsc.internal> Message-ID: <2db701c40325$4cbaf290$0200a8c0@eden> > I have the same problem and exact samr configuration. The > vast majority of > junk-suspect messages are from users in my company, the same > 6our users, > regardless of how many times I recover them from Spam. I've > just learned to > deal with it, otherwise I have zero complaints, and neither > do my users. If these are internal Exchange Server users, then I would be very interested to see the 'Spam Clues' for such messages - particularly if the behaviour between 0.8 and 0.9 is significant - I don't recall anything changing in that area between releases. Mark. From mhammond at keypoint.com.au Fri Mar 5 21:50:28 2004 From: mhammond at keypoint.com.au (Mark Hammond) Date: Fri Mar 5 21:50:51 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2db801c40325$c908b1c0$0200a8c0@eden> It sounds like SpamBayes has been configured with the 'Inbox' as the Unsure folder. Try going to the 'Filtering' tab on the SpamBayes manager dialog, and selecting a different folder for unsure messages. Regards, Mark. > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces@python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of Jerry/Jane mcCormick > Sent: Saturday, 6 March 2004 12:45 AM > To: spambayes@python.org > Subject: [Spambayes] Problem > > > I keep getting the following msg popping up on my computer when using > spambayes: > > "You can not specify folder"Personal Folders/Inbox" as > both the unsure > folder, and as being watched." > > This did not start occurring until I upgraded to ver .9 > > Any help you can send me will be greatly appreciated. > > > _______________________________________________ > Spambayes@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From spambayesspambayes at CIS.NET Sat Mar 6 00:41:44 2004 From: spambayesspambayes at CIS.NET (Regina Fa'arman) Date: Sat Mar 6 00:41:31 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] C1|ALIS & LE|V1TRA starts WORKING up to twice as fast as V1A_GRA & 1ast up to 24-36 h0urs Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We address these issues regularly, so it shouldn't take long for a human to reply. Thanks, and have a great day! Cordially, Ted Listener and Reader Relations The Kim Komando Show http://www.komando.com From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Mar 7 18:23:43 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun Mar 7 18:24:21 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes 0.9 In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13054B0197@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677A6E@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > If these are internal Exchange Server users, then I would be > very interested to see the 'Spam Clues' for such messages - > particularly if the behaviour between 0.8 and 0.9 is > significant - I don't recall anything changing in that area > between releases. The code for the experimental_ham_spam_imbalance_adjustment was removed. If a user had an old configuration file, it would still be set to use that option, even though in 0.8 it was off by default, wouldn't it? Maybe it was slightly helping these people? (I guess the spam clues would hint towards that, if there is an imbalance). The log files would have the options warning, too, I presume. Just an idea; might be way off. =Tony Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Mar 7 18:26:33 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun Mar 7 18:27:14 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] help, I'm lost In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13054AFE3D@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677A6F@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I have a machine running outlook 97, is there a way > to use the SpamBayes plugin for it? I know it's a great > tool since my other machines running office 2000 are > using it very smoothly. No, sorry. Outlook changed a great deal between 97 and 2000, and so the plug-in simply won't work at all, and it would be a great deal of effort to make a plug-in that did work. On the other hand, if you get mail via POP3 or IMAP, you can still use sb_server or sb_imapfilter. If you're using Exchange, or something else, then I'm afraid SpamBayes isn't going to help. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Mar 7 18:31:29 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun Mar 7 18:32:24 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Do you have a Macintosh Product In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13054AFE6B@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677A70@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Do you have a Macintosh Product? You can use sb_server.py on a Mac, if you have Python installed (it's there by default with Jaguar, I'm not sure if it's there by default with other Mac OS X's, but you can install it, and also with OS 9; not sure about before that). Just get hold of the source - spambayes-1.0a9.tar.gz, and follow the instructions contained within (or on the website). I believe some people are working on putting together a package, too. IIRC, the wiki has more information. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From randydemars at bretting.com Sun Mar 7 21:48:56 2004 From: randydemars at bretting.com (Randy DeMars) Date: Sun Mar 7 21:51:20 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] possible bug Message-ID: Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 8 00:08:31 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Mar 8 00:09:33 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] free get rid of spam In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305644DAE@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677A73@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Please help me off spam. You can use SpamBayes to do this. You need to download the installer (spambayes-1.0a9.exe), and run it, so that the necessary software is installed. At the end of the install process you can view a readme which will then explain how to setup your mail client (Outlook Express?) to use SpamBayes. This is a slightly complicated process, but is getting less so with each release, and the documentation should be getting better too... =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 8 00:12:06 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Mar 8 00:12:45 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Training Database Status In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13054AF3CE@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677A74@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > My database has 600 "ham" and 14,000 "spam". I obviously get > huge amounts of spam. Spambayes is very accurate, but the > ratio is huge. How can I get more "ham" trained to decrease > the ratio? I have used all folders with "ham", and have nothing > more to use! I hate to turn off the spam feature and just > train for good messages, as I get about 250 spam messages per day! I would suggest that training less spam is indeed the answer. The wiki has lots of information about training, but basically, the most popular training method, and one that appears to be one of the top three in terms of effectiveness, is training on mistakes only. So train on any false positives, false negatives and unsures, but nothing else. This of itself should reduce the ratio (and the amount of training data, which often works better, despite what one might think). If you still get a lot more spam than ham in the unsure folder, the ratio will still creep up (although it should be slower), but you can avoid this (if necessary) by only training the most unsure, or adjusting the unsure thresholds. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 8 00:20:48 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Mar 8 00:21:33 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] spambays/outlook/deleted box question In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13054AF32D@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677A75@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Prior to installing Spambays I set up a bunch of rules in Outlook (not > express) for my junk mail. I've got perhaps thousands of > junk email addresses in my junk senders list. This seems (I > think) to be causing spambay some problems. the reason why I > think it's doing this is because for some unknown other > reason unrelated to this problem I get two emails of the same > spam. One correctly goes into the spambays Junk E-Mail > folder the second goes into my Deleted items folder. I think > spambays grabs one email & the outlook rules grabs the other. The "background processing" option should fix this (forcing spambayes to run after any Outlook rules). This is on by default with 1.0a9, although not in earlier versions. You can find it on the Advanced tab of the Manager dialog. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 8 01:04:54 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Mar 8 01:05:39 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Errors when setting up IMAP folders to filter and trainusing the web interface In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13054AFB95@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2B03@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> [Sorry for the delay in replying; been very busy lately.] > I am attempting to use the command "sb_imapfilter.py > -b" to start the web configuration for IMAP. When I get into > the configuration webpage I am unable to "configure folders > to filter" or "Configure folders to train". When I click on > either of these links on the web configuration screen I > receive this error message: > [...] > File "./sb_imapfilter.py", line 285, in folder_list > m = r.search(fol) > > TypeError: expected string or buffer > > I ran the "sb_imapfilter.py -b" with debugging "-i 4 -v" and > I received this output which I have shortened. It apparently > lists every file in my home directory in this debug This is weird. It's meant to list the directories available on the IMAP server. I gather you're running a local IMAP server? I guess maybe whatever server it is has decided that it'll return any files in that directory. The IMAP server is certainly doing one thing wrong. The folder names must (according to the RFC) be either a literal (something like {12} and then 12 characters), a single character, or a *quoted* string. This *might* be the problem; I'm not certain. > 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" 1 > 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" {1} > 22:41.50 read literal size 1 This one is odd. Only one character, and for some reason it *is* a literal. > I don't know much python but from what I can tell, even > if you set the fitler_folders and spam_folders in the > .spambayesrc file it still cannot find/use these using IMAP. > I attempted to run a classification after setting the above > filter_folders option and received this response: > [...] > filter_folders=/trout/home/josh/INBOX > spam_folder=/trout/home/josh/mail/Newspammail > unsure_folder=/trout/home/josh/mail/Unsuremail [...] > Invalid response to select /trout/home/josh/mail/Newspammail: > ('NO', ["SELECT failed: Can't open /trout/home/josh/mail/Newspammail: > not a selectable mailbox"]) > > This error message is coming from outside this script, and > I haven't been able to determine from where. It comes from imaplib (the Python standard module). If you do: python >>> import imaplib >>> i = imaplib.IMAP4("your.server.name") >>> i.login("username", "password") >>> i.select("/trout/home/josh/mail/Newspammail") What do you get? Does that folder definitely exist on the IMAP server? Could you maybe do another debug run trying to set the folders, but with -i9? It's usually excessive, but it'll show exactly what imaplib is putting in the response. As before, cut out chunks so that it's not overly huge. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From david.matos at comcast.net Mon Mar 8 01:38:04 2004 From: david.matos at comcast.net (David Matos) Date: Mon Mar 8 01:38:07 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] AddInMon? Message-ID: Does the latest Spambayes Outlook (XP) plugin use Micro Eye's "AddInMon"? --Dave M. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040308/83e0bc01/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 8 01:49:39 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Mar 8 01:50:18 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] AddInMon? In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305644F5B@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677A77@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Does the latest Spambayes Outlook (XP) plugin use > Micro Eye's "AddInMon"? No. The (binary of the) plug-in does not rely on/use any program other than itself and Outlook. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From SB-User-List at Xunu.com Mon Mar 8 06:33:58 2004 From: SB-User-List at Xunu.com (Max) Date: Mon Mar 8 06:34:02 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problems getting Spambayes IMAP Filter to work (re-submitted) Message-ID: <1044.172.161.249.167.1078745638.spork@webmail.xunu.com> I downloaded and installed SpamBayes 1.0a9 and am using the IMAP Filter, sb_imapfilter.py, on a Win 98 SE Pentium 120MHz PC. These are the script versions that display when I execute the script from the MS-DOS Shell: "SpamBayes IMAP Filter Version 0.2 (February 2004) and engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004)". It runs fine as a localhost:8880 site in MS IE 6.0, and I am able to use the configuration pages perfectly well, but when I try to access the pages to specify the mailbox folders to filter and those to use for training, this is what I get (sans the "=" sign lines): ================================================================================ Spambayes Web Interface: Home > Select Training Folders 500 Server error Traceback (most recent call last): File "C:\PROGRAM FILES\DEVTOOLS\PYTHON\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\Dibbler.py", line 461, in found_terminator getattr(plugin, name)(**params) File "C:\PROGRAM FILES\DEVTOOLS\PYTHON\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\ImapUI.py", line 222, in onTrainingfolders self._login_to_imap() File "C:\PROGRAM FILES\DEVTOOLS\PYTHON\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\ImapUI.py", line 217, in _login_to_imap self.imap.login(username, self.imap_pwd) File "sb_ima~1.py", line 212, in login BaseIMAP.login(self, username, pwd) # superclass login File "C:\PROGRAM FILES\DEVTOOLS\PYTHON\lib\imaplib.py", line 471, in login typ, dat = self._simple_command('LOGIN', user, self._quote(password)) File "C:\PROGRAM FILES\DEVTOOLS\PYTHON\lib\imaplib.py", line 1000, in _simple_command return self._command_complete(name, self._command(name, *args)) File "C:\PROGRAM FILES\DEVTOOLS\PYTHON\lib\imaplib.py", line 794, in _command raise self.abort('socket error: %s' % val) abort: socket error: (10054, 'Connection reset by peer') ================================================================================ Obviously, I cannot use the script until this problem is resolved. Any help to that end would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance! Yours very truly, Max From noreply at python.org Mon Mar 8 07:39:31 2004 From: noreply at python.org (noreply@python.org) Date: Mon Mar 8 07:39:54 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] E-mail account security warning. Message-ID: Dear user of Python.org, Your e-mail account will be disabled because of improper using in next three days, if you are still wishing to use it, please, resign your account information. Please, read the attach for further details. For security reasons attached file is password protected. The password is "54328". The Management, The Python.org team http://www.python.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Document.zip Type: application/octet-stream Size: 12420 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040308/27682362/Document-0001.obj From Joshua.Ross at intec.us Mon Mar 8 11:03:27 2004 From: Joshua.Ross at intec.us (Joshua L Ross) Date: Mon Mar 8 11:01:02 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Errors when setting up IMAP folders to filter and trainusing the web interface In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2B03@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2B03@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1078761807.9553.88.camel@uxjosh.compgen.com> On Mon, 2004-03-08 at 14:04, Tony Meyer wrote: > [Sorry for the delay in replying; been very busy lately.] That is no problem whatsoever. I am so used to the spam that it doesn't bother me a few more days of it. Also, I can switch my mail to pop if it were so bad that it was necessary. Truly, I raised the problem because I couldn't find another example of it and I want to help you all resolve any problems to make spambayes better. With that said, I suspect this might be a problem with the way my company's imap server is configured, or something I am doing incorrectly. So I am trying to investigate possible mistakes on my end and sending messages to you all. > > > I am attempting to use the command "sb_imapfilter.py > > -b" to start the web configuration for IMAP. When I get into > > the configuration webpage I am unable to "configure folders > > to filter" or "Configure folders to train". When I click on > > either of these links on the web configuration screen I > > receive this error message: > > > [...] > > File "./sb_imapfilter.py", line 285, in folder_list > > m = r.search(fol) > > > > TypeError: expected string or buffer > > > > I ran the "sb_imapfilter.py -b" with debugging "-i 4 -v" and > > I received this output which I have shortened. It apparently > > lists every file in my home directory in this debug > > This is weird. It's meant to list the directories available on the IMAP > server. I gather you're running a local IMAP server? I guess maybe > whatever server it is has decided that it'll return any files in that > directory. > > The IMAP server is certainly doing one thing wrong. The folder names must > (according to the RFC) be either a literal (something like {12} and then 12 > characters), a single character, or a *quoted* string. This *might* be the > problem; I'm not certain. > > > 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" 1 > > 22:41.50 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" {1} > > 22:41.50 read literal size 1 > > This one is odd. Only one character, and for some reason it *is* a literal. > It WAS a file named "/". I actually accidentally saved a file in 'vi' with that filename. I removed a bunch of junk from my /trout/home/josh/ folder now, including that file. > > I don't know much python but from what I can tell, even > > if you set the fitler_folders and spam_folders in the > > .spambayesrc file it still cannot find/use these using IMAP. > > I attempted to run a classification after setting the above > > filter_folders option and received this response: > > > [...] > > filter_folders=/trout/home/josh/INBOX > > spam_folder=/trout/home/josh/mail/Newspammail > > unsure_folder=/trout/home/josh/mail/Unsuremail > [...] > > Invalid response to select /trout/home/josh/mail/Newspammail: > > ('NO', ["SELECT failed: Can't open /trout/home/josh/mail/Newspammail: > > not a selectable mailbox"]) > > > > This error message is coming from outside this script, and > > I haven't been able to determine from where. > > It comes from imaplib (the Python standard module). If you do: > > python > >>> import imaplib > >>> i = imaplib.IMAP4("your.server.name") > >>> i.login("username", "password") > >>> i.select("/trout/home/josh/mail/Newspammail") 08:38:54|trout:~>python Python 2.2.1 (#1, Jul 5 2002, 10:53:30) [GCC egcs-2.91.66 19990314/Linux (egcs-1.1.2 release)] on linux2 Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>> import imaplib >>> i = imaplib.IMAP4("trout.compgen.com") >>> i.login("josh", "********") ('OK', ['LOGIN completed']) >>> i.select("/trout/home/josh/mail/Newspammail") ('NO', ["SELECT failed: Can't open /trout/home/josh/mail/Newspammail: not a selectable mailbox"]) >>> i.select("/trout/home/josh/Inbox") ('NO', ["SELECT failed: Can't open mailbox /trout/home/josh/Inbox: no such mailbox"]) >>> i.select("/trout/home/josh/INBOX") ('NO', ["SELECT failed: Can't open mailbox /trout/home/josh/INBOX: no such mailbox"]) It doesn't appear any folder exists in my IMAP server? It is odd, I guess the fact that I could "subscribe" to 'Newspammail' in Evolution gave me the idea that it was/is an Imap Folder. I am apparently wrong. > > What do you get? Does that folder definitely exist on the IMAP server? > > Could you maybe do another debug run trying to set the folders, but with > -i9? It's usually excessive, but it'll show exactly what imaplib is putting > in the response. As before, cut out chunks so that it's not overly huge. > > =Tony Meyer > > --- > Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies > (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This > way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. HA! something has changed on my end, probably the imap server? I'm not sure I am of much help now, because this time the web configuration listed all the folders in my home directory. Wait, I bet cleaning the directory /trout/home/josh/ of junk and the "/" file name rectified the web configuration problems in my previous mail. Anyway, just in case, here is the output: josh@uxjosh:/usr/local/spambayes/scripts> ./sb_imapfilter.py -i9 -v -b SpamBayes IMAP Filter Version 0.2 (February 2004) and engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004). Loading state from /home/josh/.hammiedb database /home/josh/.hammiedb is an existing database, with 1 spam and 1 ham Loading database /home/josh/.hammiedb... Done. User interface url is http://localhost:8880/ 37:23.49 > DDPJ1 LOGIN josh "********" 37:23.58 < DDPJ1 OK LOGIN completed 37:23.58 matched r'(?PDDPJ\d+) (?P[A-Z]+) (?P.*)' => ('DDPJ1', 'OK', 'LOGIN completed') 37:23.58 > DDPJ2 LIST "" * 37:23.67 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" ld 37:23.67 matched r'\* (?P[A-Z-]+)( (?P.*))?' => ('LIST', ' (\\NoInferiors \\Marked) "/" ld', '(\\NoInferiors \\Marked) "/" ld') 37:23.67 untagged_responses[LIST] 0 += ["(\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" ld"] 37:23.67 < * LIST (\NoSelect) "/" bin 37:23.67 matched r'\* (?P[A-Z-]+)( (?P.*))?' => ('LIST', ' (\\NoSelect) "/" bin', '(\\NoSelect) "/" bin') 37:23.67 untagged_responses[LIST] 1 += ["(\NoSelect) "/" bin"] 37:23.67 < * LIST (\NoSelect) "/" etc 37:23.67 matched r'\* (?P[A-Z-]+)( (?P.*))?' => ('LIST', ' (\\NoSelect) "/" etc', '(\\NoSelect) "/" etc') 37:23.67 untagged_responses[LIST] 2 += ["(\NoSelect) "/" etc"] 37:23.67 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" etc/fstab 37:23.67 matched r'\* (?P[A-Z-]+)( (?P.*))?' => ('LIST', ' (\\NoInferiors \\Marked) "/" etc/fstab', '(\\NoInferiors \\Marked) "/" etc/fstab') 37:23.67 untagged_responses[LIST] 3 += ["(\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" etc/fstab"] 37:23.67 < * LIST (\NoSelect) "/" tmp 37:23.67 matched r'\* (?P[A-Z-]+)( (?P.*))?' => ('LIST', ' (\\NoSelect) "/" tmp', '(\\NoSelect) "/" tmp') 37:23.67 untagged_responses[LIST] 4 += ["(\NoSelect) "/" tmp"] 37:23.67 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" tmp/.created_by_xemacs 37:23.67 matched r'\* (?P[A-Z-]+)( (?P.*))?' => ('LIST', ' (\\NoInferiors \\Marked) "/" tmp/.created_by_xemacs', '(\\NoInferiors \\Marked) "/" tmp/.created_by_xemacs') 37:23.67 untagged_responses[LIST] 5 += ["(\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" tmp/.created_by_xemacs"] 37:23.67 < * LIST (\NoSelect) "/" .ssh 37:23.67 matched r'\* (?P[A-Z-]+)( (?P.*))?' => ('LIST', ' (\\NoSelect) "/" .ssh', '(\\NoSelect) "/" .ssh') .... .... .... .... uto-save-list', '(\\NoSelect) "/" .emacs.d/auto-save-list') 37:24.52 untagged_responses[LIST] 848 += ["(\NoSelect) "/" .emacs.d/auto-save-list"] 37:24.52 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \UnMarked) "/" .emacs.d/auto-save-list/.saves-6857-bass.compgen.com~ 37:24.52 matched r'\* (?P[A-Z-]+)( (?P.*))?' => ('LIST', ' (\\NoInferiors \\UnMarked) "/" .emacs.d/auto-save-list/.saves-6857-bass.compgen.com~', '(\\NoInferiors \\UnMarked) "/" .emacs.d/auto-save-list/.saves-6857-bass.compgen.com~') 37:24.52 untagged_responses[LIST] 849 += ["(\NoInferiors \UnMarked) "/" .emacs.d/auto-save-list/.saves-6857-bass.compgen.com~"] 37:24.52 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" SalaryReview.pps 37:24.52 matched r'\* (?P[A-Z-]+)( (?P.*))?' => ('LIST', ' (\\NoInferiors \\Marked) "/" SalaryReview.pps', '(\\NoInferiors \\Marked) "/" SalaryReview.pps') 37:24.52 untagged_responses[LIST] 850 += ["(\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" SalaryReview.pps"] 37:24.52 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" maggianos.ps 37:24.52 matched r'\* (?P[A-Z-]+)( (?P.*))?' => ('LIST', ' (\\NoInferiors \\Marked) "/" maggianos.ps', '(\\NoInferiors \\Marked) "/" maggianos.ps') 37:24.52 untagged_responses[LIST] 851 += ["(\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" maggianos.ps"] 37:24.52 < * LIST (\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" .hist_josh 37:24.52 matched r'\* (?P[A-Z-]+)( (?P.*))?' => ('LIST', ' (\\NoInferiors \\Marked) "/" .hist_josh', '(\\NoInferiors \\Marked) "/" .hist_josh') 37:24.52 untagged_responses[LIST] 852 += ["(\NoInferiors \Marked) "/" .hist_josh"] 37:24.52 < * LIST (\NoInferiors) NIL INBOX 37:24.52 matched r'\* (?P[A-Z-]+)( (?P.*))?' => ('LIST', ' (\\NoInferiors) NIL INBOX', '(\\NoInferiors) NIL INBOX') 37:24.52 untagged_responses[LIST] 853 += ["(\NoInferiors) NIL INBOX"] 37:24.52 < DDPJ2 OK LIST completed 37:24.52 matched r'(?PDDPJ\d+) (?P[A-Z]+) (?P.*)' => ('DDPJ2', 'OK', 'LIST completed') 37:24.52 untagged_responses[LIST] => ['(\\NoInferiors \\Marked) "/" ld', '(\\NoSelect) "/" bin', '(\\NoSelect) "/" etc', '(\\NoInferiors \\Marked) "/" etc/fstab', '(\\NoSelect) "/" tmp', '(\\NoInferiors \\Marked) "/" tmp/.created_by_xemacs', '(\\NoSelect) "/" .ssh', '(\\NoInferiors \\Marked) "/" .ssh/id.ssh.pub', '(\\NoInferiors \\UnMarked) "/" .ssh/known_hosts2', '(\\NoInferiors \\Marked) "/" .ssh/identity.pub', '(\\NoInferiors \\Marked) "/" .ssh/authorized_keys~', '(\\NoInferiors \\UnMarked) "/" .ssh/identity', '(\\NoInferiors \\UnMarked) "/" .ssh/id_dsa.pub', '(\\NoInferiors \\UnMarked) "/" .ssh/id_rsa.pub', '(\\NoInferiors \\UnMarked) "/" .ssh/id_dsa', '(\\NoInferiors \\UnMarked) "/" .ssh/id_rsa', '(\\NoInferiors \\UnMarked) "/" .ssh/known_hosts', '(\\NoInferiors \\Marked) "/" .ssh/random_seed', '(\\NoInferiors \\Marked) "/" .ssh/authorized_keys', '(\\NoSelect) "/" .vim', '(\\NoSelect) "/" .vim/doc', '(\\NoInferiors \\Marked) "/" .vim/doc/tags', '(\\NoInferiors \\Marked) "/" .vim/doc/vimspell.txt', '(\\NoInferiors \\Marked) "/" .vim/doc/FEATURES.txt', '(\\NoSelect) "/" .vim/ftplugin', .... .... .... .... \\Marked) "/" .fullcircle/NetscapeNetscape6.00LinuxIntel2000110807/permdata.box', '(\\NoInferiors \\Marked) "/" .fullcircle/NetscapeNetscape6.00LinuxIntel2000110807/manifest.ini', '(\\NoSelect) "/" .fullcircle/NetscapeNetscape6.21LinuxIntel2001112617', '(\\NoInferiors \\Marked) "/" .fullcircle/NetscapeNetscape6.21LinuxIntel2001112617/permdata.box', '(\\NoInferiors \\Marked) "/" .fullcircle/NetscapeNetscape6.21LinuxIntel2001112617/manifest.ini', '(\\NoInferiors \\Marked) "/" .fullcircle/NetscapeNetscape6.21LinuxIntel2001112617/Talkback.ini', '(\\NoInferiors \\Marked) "/" .fullcircle/NetscapeNetscape6.21LinuxIntel2001112617/info.db', '(\\NoInferiors \\Marked) "/" cgi_ssh', '(\\NoSelect) "/" Application_Kit_rev1', '(\\NoSelect) "/" Application_Kit_rev1/Application_Kit_rev1', '(\\NoInferiors \\Marked) "/" "Application_Kit_rev1/Application_Kit_rev1/Application Worksheet_rev1.doc"', '(\\NoInferiors \\Marked) "/" "Application_Kit_rev1/Application_Kit_rev1/Committment to Excellence Form.doc"', '(\\NoInferiors \\Marked) "/" "Application_Kit_rev1/Application_Kit_rev1/Interest Rate Agreement Disclosure_rev1.doc"', '(\\NoInferiors \\Marked) "/" "Application_Kit_rev1/Application_Kit_rev1/Authorization to Release Information.doc"', '(\\NoInferiors \\Marked) "/" "Application_Kit_rev1/Application_Kit_rev1/Application Checklist.doc"', '(\\NoInferiors \\Marked) "/" "Application_Kit_rev1/Application_Kit_rev1/Fee Disclosure_rev1.doc"', '(\\NoInferiors \\Marked) "/" "Application_Kit_rev1/Application_Kit_rev1/ABFA Disclosure_rev1.doc"', '(\\NoInferiors \\Marked) "/" "Application_Kit_rev1/Application_Kit_rev1/ABFA Tax Disclosure_rev1.doc"', '(\\NoSelect) "/" .emacs.d', '(\\NoSelect) "/" .emacs.d/auto-save-list', '(\\NoInferiors \\UnMarked) "/" .emacs.d/auto-save-list/.saves-6857-bass.compgen.com~', '(\\NoInferiors \\Marked) "/" SalaryReview.pps', '(\\NoInferiors \\Marked) "/" maggianos.ps', '(\\NoInferiors \\Marked) "/" .hist_josh', '(\\NoInferiors) NIL INBOX'] I am going to continue to configure this now that I am getting a directory listing. I will update this thread to see if that "/" file might have been the whole problem. Thanks for the help! -Joshua- From Piers_Bromley at metroimaging.co.uk Mon Mar 8 12:23:35 2004 From: Piers_Bromley at metroimaging.co.uk (Piers Bromley) Date: Mon Mar 8 12:23:40 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Is Spambeyes compatible with Outlook 2004? Message-ID: I cannot find the answer to this question on your website. Regards Piers Bromley ____________________________________________________________________________ "This email, its contents and any files or images transmitted with it are intended solely for the addressee(s) and are confidential. If you received this email in error you may not copy or use the contents, attachments or information in any way. Please notify us by replying to the sender and then destroying the email its contents and any files or images transmitted with it. Material contained in this email may be copyright material or protected by other intellectual property rights. It may only be reproduced with the express permission of the sender. No responsibility is accepted for changes made to this email by unauthorised parties after it was sent. All our internet emails are checked for our own purposes using anti virus software however no warranty is made as to its efficacy and the company or its affiliates are not liable for any loss or damage. All recipients are advised to run their own anti virus software. All information contained in this email has been prepared using information believed by the author to be reliable and accurate, but the company or its affiliates make no warranty as to accuracy and completeness. " From kennypitt at hotmail.com Mon Mar 8 12:43:49 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Mon Mar 8 12:44:52 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Is Spambeyes compatible with Outlook 2004? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Piers Bromley wrote: > I cannot find the answer to this question on your website. I'm not aware of an Outlook 2004. Outlook 2003 is the most recent version, released a couple of months ago, and SpamBayes is compatible with the 2003 version. -- Kenny Pitt From JCHaven at airpower-usa.com Mon Mar 8 16:45:55 2004 From: JCHaven at airpower-usa.com (Charles Haven) Date: Mon Mar 8 16:48:59 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Is Spambeyes compatible with Outlook 2004? Message-ID: Skipped content of type multipart/alternative From thornedn at adelphia.net Mon Mar 8 17:12:24 2004 From: thornedn at adelphia.net (Nikki Thorne) Date: Mon Mar 8 20:02:50 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Newbie Message-ID: <000801c4055a$70b62fc0$dcb43018@sbtnvt.adelphia.net> I have installed python & spambayes. I am using outlook express 6 with windows ME (bad, bad, bad...) I cannot figure out which port to use when configuring http proxy. I have my mail server, but no port #. A little help to a complete blonde??? --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.605 / Virus Database: 385 - Release Date: 3/1/2004 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040308/da39e020/attachment.html From thornedn at adelphia.net Mon Mar 8 17:12:24 2004 From: thornedn at adelphia.net (Nikki Thorne) Date: Tue Mar 9 00:49:57 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Newbie Message-ID: <000801c4055a$70b62fc0$dcb43018@sbtnvt.adelphia.net> I have installed python & spambayes. I am using outlook express 6 with windows ME (bad, bad, bad...) I cannot figure out which port to use when configuring http proxy. I have my mail server, but no port #. A little help to a complete blonde??? --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.605 / Virus Database: 385 - Release Date: 3/1/2004 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040308/da39e020/attachment-0001.html From richie at entrian.com Tue Mar 9 03:03:27 2004 From: richie at entrian.com (Richie Hindle) Date: Tue Mar 9 03:03:36 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Newbie In-Reply-To: <000801c4055a$70b62fc0$dcb43018@sbtnvt.adelphia.net> References: <000801c4055a$70b62fc0$dcb43018@sbtnvt.adelphia.net> Message-ID: Hi Nikki, > I cannot figure out which port to use when configuring http proxy. Did you mean POP3 proxy? Or maybe SMTP proxy? > I have my mail server, but no port #. A little help to a complete blonde??? 8-) If you're after the port number of your ISP's POP3 mail server (from which you collect mail) it will almost certainly be 110. For SMTP (through which you send mail) it will almost certainly be 25. Hope that helps, -- Richie Hindle richie@entrian.com From ib9s-ysi at asahi-net.or.jp Tue Mar 9 07:43:34 2004 From: ib9s-ysi at asahi-net.or.jp (ib9s-ysi@asahi-net.or.jp) Date: Tue Mar 9 07:43:51 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy Message-ID: <200403091243.VAA02261@cs29.catv.ne.jp> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: SpamBayesServer1.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 262 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040309/92be1564/SpamBayesServer1.obj -------------- next part -------------- I am using SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 0.4 (February 2004) (binary), with version 2.3.2+ (#49, Oct 23 2003, 15:50:06) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] of Python; my operating system is Windows 4.90.73010104.1 ( ). I have trained 0 ham and 0 spam. The problem I am having is that it seems like it is not connected to my pop server. It is not active so I can't train it. I guess I got something wrong with its config, or mail client's (Netscape 7.01 Mail) config. How should I do? From tim at fourstonesExpressions.com Tue Mar 9 09:07:54 2004 From: tim at fourstonesExpressions.com (Tim Stone) Date: Tue Mar 9 09:08:00 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy In-Reply-To: <200403091243.VAA02261@cs29.catv.ne.jp> References: <200403091243.VAA02261@cs29.catv.ne.jp> Message-ID: Have you checked faq: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#how-do-i-configure-spambayes On Tue, 9 Mar 2004 21:43:34 +0900 (JST), wrote: > I am using SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 0.4 (February 2004) (binary), > with version 2.3.2+ (#49, Oct 23 2003, 15:50:06) [MSC v.1200 32 bit > (Intel)] of Python; my operating system is Windows 4.90.73010104.1 ( > ). I have trained 0 ham and 0 spam. The problem I am having is > that it seems like it is not connected to my pop server. It is not > active so I can't train it. I guess I got something wrong with its > config, or mail client's (Netscape 7.01 Mail) config. How should I do? -- Exprimez vous!; Expr?sese; Esprimi te stesso; Express yourself! Tim Stone See my photography at www.fourstonesExpressions.com From spambayes at kleinfelter.com Tue Mar 9 11:20:16 2004 From: spambayes at kleinfelter.com (Kevin Kleinfelter) Date: Tue Mar 9 11:20:18 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Context Sensitive Menus Message-ID: Is anyone working on adding context sensitive (right-click) menus for Spambayes to the Outlook plug-in? How big a deal would it be? I've got a plethora of toolbars for various apps and I'd like to reclaim the real estate. I'm thinking right-click, "Delete as Spam" and right-click "Recover from Spam". From JWagner at wencpa.com Tue Mar 9 12:03:37 2004 From: JWagner at wencpa.com (John Wagner) Date: Tue Mar 9 12:03:44 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Questions about this product Message-ID: I think I am impressed but cannot find some operational issues: Our office has exchange server and we have about 25 users. Some of us have lap tops which we take home at night. We also have terminal server and we can check messages form other computers or our lap top It seems this program works good as long as I am logged in at the office. However if I am logged out and check mail from terminal server All the spam is still in my inbox. When I get to the office it takes outlook awhile to load up because I guess it is reading all the email in the inbox and classifying it Anything I am doing wrong? Should I load it on terminal server? Thanks for your help John Wagner John L. Wagner Wagner, Eubank & Nichols, LLP 214-692-6800 x233 (voice) 214-692-7844 (fax) jwagner@wencpa.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040309/f5f49386/attachment.html From rmalayter at bai.org Tue Mar 9 12:26:07 2004 From: rmalayter at bai.org (Ryan Malayter) Date: Tue Mar 9 12:26:15 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Questions about this product Message-ID: <792DE28E91F6EA42B4663AE761C41C2A01E1A41B@cliff.bai.org> [John Wagner] >It seems this program works good as long as I am logged in >at the office. However if I am logged out and check mail >from terminal server All the spam is still in my inbox. >When I get to the office it takes outlook awhile to load up >because I guess it is reading all the email in the inbox >and classifying it >Anything I am doing wrong? Should I load it on terminal >server? Since SpamBayes only works at the mail client level, you will need to have it installed on all of the machines from which you read mail. I use Windows 2000/XP roaming profiles, so my SpamBayes database follows me around to different machines. It works pretty well if you have a fast connection, but since the databases can get to be > 10 MB, you might need to be careful. Also, be aware that if you install SpamBayes on the terminal server, it will be active for *all* Outlook users on that terminal server, but each will have a separate SpamBayes training database. Another option would be to change your SpamBayes configuration files to point to a central network share and store your Spam databases there. This will work fine, so long as you don't use two different systems at once. Finally, you can have SpamBayes installed on just one machine that you leave logged in with Outlook opem at all times. This is what I do when I go on vacation, so I can use Outlook Web Access to read my mail but still have good spam filtering. However, there is no training possible when you're not on the machine that has SpamBayes installed. I move )the very few) spam messages missed by SpamBayes into the possible spam folder from OWA, so I remember to train on them when I get back from vacation. Regards, Ryan Malayter Bank Administration Institute Chicago, Illinois, USA PGP Key: http://www.malayter.com/pgp-public.txt ========================= All problems can be solved by diplomacy, but violence and treachery are equally effective, and more fun. -Anonymous From kennypitt at hotmail.com Tue Mar 9 13:30:00 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Tue Mar 9 13:31:07 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Context Sensitive Menus In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Kevin Kleinfelter wrote: > Is anyone working on adding context sensitive (right-click) menus for > Spambayes to the Outlook plug-in? How big a deal would it be? > > I've got a plethora of toolbars for various apps and I'd like to > reclaim the real estate. I'm thinking right-click, "Delete as Spam" > and right-click "Recover from Spam". I've looked at that before because I think it would be nice to have. Unfortunately, if Microsoft has provided any access to Outlook's context menus, they've hidden it very well. I would love to hear from anyone who has information or sample code for doing this. -- Kenny Pitt From kennypitt at hotmail.com Tue Mar 9 14:13:41 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Tue Mar 9 14:15:02 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Newbie In-Reply-To: <000801c4055a$70b62fc0$dcb43018@sbtnvt.adelphia.net> Message-ID: Nikki Thorne wrote: > I have installed python & spambayes. I am using outlook express 6 > with windows ME (bad, bad, bad...) What SpamBayes version did you install? The 1.0a9 version includes an install wizard for the POP3 proxy application that will get things up and running quickly without the need to separately install Python. > I cannot figure out which port to use when configuring http proxy. > I have my mail server, but no port #. Hopefully you have things running to the point where you can access the SpamBayes configuration page. In the "POP3 Proxy Options" section, enter the name of your mail server in "Remote Servers". If you don't have a specific port # then the default is probably correct. If you did have a specific port for your mail server then you would enter "server_name:port" here. In "SpamBayes Ports" you enter a port that will be used locally, which doesn't have to match your mail server. You can try 110 which works in most cases and requires the fewest changes in your Outlook Express config, but it occassionally conflicts with another program such as an anti-virus utility. I use 9110 here. The important thing is to remember this number because you will need it when setting up Outlook Express. Under "SMTP Proxy Options", leave the Remote Servers and SpamBayes Ports boxes blank. You shouldn't need these. After saving your configuration, open Outlook Express and go to Tools > Accounts to modify your e-mail account settings. I'm assuming that you had Outlook Express working properly before you installed SpamBayes. To connect through SpamBayes, you'll need to change your incoming mail server (on the Servers tab) to localhost. If you used something other than 110 for the SpamBayes port earlier, then go to the Advanced tab and change the incoming mail port to match. At this point, SpamBayes should be analyzing all your messages and you will be able to use the "Review messages" page in the UI to start training it about what you consider spam. However, Outlook Express won't do anything different with the messages yet. You need to set up some rules in Outlook Express to move spam messages to a separate folder. First, go back to the SpamBayes configuration page and scroll down to the "Header Options" section. In "Classify in subject header", turn on the check next to "spam" and "unsure". Back in Outlook Express, create two folders named something like "Spam" and "Possible Spam". Now go to Tools > Message Rules > Mail. Create a new rule and select "Where the Subject line contains specific words" and "Move it to the specified folder". In box 3 (Rule Description), click on the underlined "contains specific words", enter "spam," and click Add then OK. Now click on the underlined "specified" and select the "Spam" folder you created. Name this rule "Spam Messages" and click OK. Repeat this process to create a "Possible Spam Messages" rule to move messages containing "unsure," to your "Possible Spam" folder. Finally, click OK on the Message Rules dialog and Outlook Express should be ready to filter your mail. Sorry if this sounds a bit complicated, but we can't integrate as closely with Outlook Express as we can with full Outlook so you have to do a lot more setup for yourself. We're working on a configuration wizard that will hopefully automate a lot of this eventually. If you have any further questions, please post back to the mailing list. -- Kenny Pitt From Nick.Metzger at fritolay.com Tue Mar 9 17:06:45 2004 From: Nick.Metzger at fritolay.com (Metzger, Nick {FLNA}) Date: Tue Mar 9 17:08:05 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Error message Message-ID: <5FA9E5B839399B408CEC7EB5099BC3EB023ED754@pbswmu00009.corp.pep.pvt> When I try to enable Spambayes I get the error message: C:\program files\micros~2\office10\addins\outbak.dll is not a valid Office add-in I'm using Outlook 2002 with an exchange server. Any suggestions? Nick Metzger <<...OLE_Obj...>> <<...OLE_Obj...>> Frito-Lay Operations (972)-334-3734 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040309/9c9bb36e/attachment.html From tpeters at mixcom.com Tue Mar 9 17:32:55 2004 From: tpeters at mixcom.com (Tom Peters) Date: Tue Mar 9 17:32:59 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Groupwise and Spambayes Message-ID: <57746.67.36.83.25.1078871575.squirrel@webmail.athenet.net> Is there a FAQ or WIKI on running Spambayes at the server level in a Groupwise installation? Did I miss it? I'm wondering if its possible and if so, how one goes about it. From moonsail at marinanet.net Tue Mar 9 18:53:02 2004 From: moonsail at marinanet.net (Chris Mooney) Date: Tue Mar 9 18:53:22 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Mailing List Message-ID: I recently subscribed to Spambayes at the recommendation of a friend. I liked the sound of the methods your program uses to learn each users tastes. I have been using my current e-mail id for about 15 months, and remarkably only was receiving one or two junk mails a week. My main reason for installing Spambayes now was so I wouldn't forget about it by the time I really needed it. Within hours of installing Spambayes, I received a junk mail. Within the the next couple of days I was getting several a day. Now after two weeks, I'm getting five or six per day. While your program is handling them great, I resent the fact that you were obviously the source of spreading my e-mail, and now that it's out there, I know from experience the abuse will only grow. I will not recommend your program to anybody unless they already have a large problem with spam. Chris Mooney -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040309/811e211b/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 9 19:44:15 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 9 19:44:54 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: [spambayes-dev] Question In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305644DBC@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677A89@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Firstly, please note that the spambayes-dev@python.org mailing list is for discussion about the development of SpamBayes, not support questions. The appropriate list for those is spambayes@python.org, or opening a support request or bug report via the sourceforge system: . Asking in the right forum makes it more likely that you'll get a prompt & useful response. > When I click on the Delete As Spam button on my toolbox > it tells me that my Spam folder isn't configured. > It is configured and seems to be working correctly. > What do I need to do to quit getting this message. If you're getting the message, then it's almost certainly that the folder is *not* configured properly. What we need is to see a copy of your log file. The Help->Troubleshooting Guide explains where to find that. This will contain the information we need to figure out what is wrong. As a quick fix, simply going into the SpamBayes Manager dialog, and the Filtering tab, and reselecting the Spam folder, will probably work. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From marketingdirecto at eyou.com Tue Mar 9 21:08:24 2004 From: marketingdirecto at eyou.com (marketingdirecto@eyou.com) Date: Tue Mar 9 21:08:39 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] P/A/I,03/04,Order Message-ID: <200403100208.i2A28Vw4036912@mxzilla2.xs4all.nl> Dear Sir, we have been in the field of diesel fuel injection systems for quite a few years.(CHINA) Recently we have developed a new kind of h&r, "CH-D90101A=AM Bosch number HD90101A"Its unit price is USD150/pc.And we also adjust the unit price of Nozzle , Plunger to USD4~8/pc respectively. We tell you that we will update our VE h&r (hydraulic heads for the VE distributor pump) list in our homepages.Thirty more models will be added.And the minimum order will be 10pcs a model. we give the unity quotation of VE distributor head: 3-cyl:USD:55/1pcs 4-cyl:USD:40~50/1pcs 5-cyl:USD:60/1pcs 6-cyl:USD:45~50/1pcs We can ship the following three models to you within 6~8 weeks. after we receive your payment. 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" " NOZZLE 093400-1310 DN0SD193 093400-1710 DLLA160SND171 093400-2280 DNOSD228 093400-5210 DNOPD21 093400-5571 ND-DN4PD57 093400-5590 ND-DLLA150P59 093400-7690 ND-DN10PDN129 093400-7700 ND-DN10PDN130 DNOSD261 DNOSD220 DNOSD293 DLLA150P205 DLLA150S1070 105000-108 NP-DNOSD211 105000-1130 NP-DN4SD24 10500-1650 NP-DNOSD2110 105000-1080 NP-DNOSD211 105000-1360 NP-DN4SD24 105000-1730 NP-DNOSD21 105000-1740 NP-DNOSD193 105000-1760 105000-2280 NP-DNOSDN228 105007-1120 NP-DNOPDN112 105007-1130 NP-DN0PDN113 105007-1210 NP-DNOPDN121 105015-2780 NP-DLLA166S374NP6 105015-3280 NP-DLLA150S328NP52 105015-3520 DLLA150S384NP73 105015-3650 NP-DLLA151S354N86 105015-3670 NP-DLLA160S354NP88 105015-3850 NP-DLLA150S334N385 105015-4130 NP-DLLA154S324N413 105015-4170 NP-DLLA137S374N417 105015-4190 DLLA154S334N419 105015-4220 NP-DLLA160S295N422 105015-4330 NP-DLLA105S304N433 105015-4730 NP-DLLA148S324N473 105015-5070 NP-DLLA160S325N507 105015-6130 NP-DLLA142SN613 105015-6380 DLLA158SN638 105015-8690 DLLA158SN869 105015-8860 NP-DLLA148SN886 105017-0070 NP-DLLA154PN007 105017-0090 NP-DLLA152PN009 105017-0630 NP-DLLA152PN063 105017-0670 DLLA154PN067 105017-0100 DLLA160PN010 105017-0210 DLLA150PN021 105017-0211/10 DLLA150PN021 105017-0900 DLLA152PN009 105017-1160 NP-DLLA154PN116 105017-1180 DLLA155PN118 105007-1210 NP-DNOPDN121 105017-1780 DLLA153PN178 0 433 271 740 0 433 271 047 DLLA150S187 0 433 271 045 DLLA150S186 0 433 171 031 DLLA150P30 0 433 171 050 DLLA160P50 0 433 171 059 DLLA150P59 0 433 171 104 DLLA150P115 0 433 171 149 DLLA146P166 0 433 171 137 DLLA146P154 0 433 171 161 DLLA144P184 0 433 171 172 DLLA154P206 0 433 171 231 DLLA150P326 0 433 171 435 DLLA145P574 0 433 171 444 DLLA150P585 0 433 175 048 DSLA145P300 0 433 271 045 DLLA150S186 0 433 271 047 DLLA150S187 0 433 271 361 DLLA150S739 0 433 271 404 DLLA142S792 0 433 271 874 DLLA150S739 0 466 171 003 DLL-A160P3 NP-DLL154S284N393 NP-DLL160S 354NP88 6801128 6801118 PLUNGER LIST: 131101-7020 0-4 131101-7520 0-9 A17 131151-2720 A43 131151-3220 A44 131151-5820 A74 131151-7320 A89 A98 131152-1420 A138 A147 131152-2220 A148 131152-3120 A158 131152-3320 A160 131152-5620 A188 131153-1220 A196 131152-8520 A226 131153-8920 A768 A722 134101-1420 P2 134101-1520 P3 P4 134101-1820 P6 134101-3820 P25 134101-6320 P48 134101-6420 P49 Delivery valve 146430-1420 131160-1920 02A 131160-2220 05A 131160-2920 12A 131160-3620 20A 134110-0120 P1 134110-0520 P4 134110-0920 P8 134110-4520 P44 131110-0620 161S2 134110-0920 P8 134110-4520 P44 134110-7420 P73 131110-2920 A9 131110-3920 A20 131110-4720 A28 131110-5120 A32 131110-5220 A33 131110-5920 A40 13110-6820 A49 131110-7720 A58 131110-7820 A59 131110-9420 A75 131160-0420 A85 1 468 532 247 A247 146430-0020 VE1 146430-1420 VE15 " marketingdirecto@eyou.com From jacob-spambayes-list at statisticalanomaly.com Tue Mar 9 22:28:52 2004 From: jacob-spambayes-list at statisticalanomaly.com (Jacob) Date: Tue Mar 9 22:26:20 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Mailing List In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <404E8B74.8020603@statisticalanomaly.com> Chris, Are you saying you received the spam from subscribing to the mailing list or installing the program? In either case, I would look elsewhere for the cause of your spam problem. I use this email address just for this list, and I have never received one spam message and I've been subscribed for months. And as for the program, its open source. If it were subscribing you to spam, I'm sure someone would have noticed. One of the great benefits of open source software is that they get a lot of code review. Spam traffic in on the Internet as a whole has increased markedly recently, and its possible the domain you account is hosted on has finally made its way onto someones radar. Did a page go up with your username on it, perhaps? I may be totally off base (it has been know to happen), but I'd look elsewhere for the cause of your increased spam traffic. Respectfully, Jacob Chris Mooney wrote: > I recently subscribed to Spambayes at the recommendation of a friend. I > liked the sound of the methods your program uses to learn each users > tastes. I have been using my current e-mail id for about 15 months, and > remarkably only was receiving one or two junk mails a week. My main > reason for installing Spambayes now was so I wouldn't forget about it by > the time I really needed it. > > Within hours of installing Spambayes, I received a junk mail. Within > the the next couple of days I was getting several a day. Now after two > weeks, I'm getting five or six per day. While your program is handling > them great, I resent the fact that you were obviously the source of > spreading my e-mail, and now that it's out there, I know from experience > the abuse will only grow. > > I will not recommend your program to anybody unless they already have a > large problem with spam. > > Chris Mooney > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Spambayes@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From tim.one at comcast.net Tue Mar 9 22:49:00 2004 From: tim.one at comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Tue Mar 9 22:49:06 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Mailing List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [Chris Mooney] > I recently subscribed to Spambayes at the recommendation of a friend. > I liked the sound of the methods your program uses to learn each > users tastes. I have been using my current e-mail id for about 15 > months, and remarkably only was receiving one or two junk mails a > week. My main reason for installing Spambayes now was so I wouldn't > forget about it by the time I really needed it. > > Within hours of installing Spambayes, I received a junk mail. Within > the the next couple of days I was getting several a day. Now after > two weeks, I'm getting five or six per day. Heh. If we were trying to give your email address to spammers, you would have been getting 600 per day after the first hour. You're still getting very little spam by my standards. > While your program is handling them great, I resent the fact that > you were obviously the source of spreading my e-mail, Sorry, it's not obvious to me, and I doubt there's a causal connection. It's more likely that your email address was sitting on the machine of an acquaintance (however remote doesn't matter) that got infected by one of the many viruses going around recently -- or simply that you looked at an HTML spam in a preview pane, out of curiosity about what spambayes was doing (HTML spam can broadcast your email address back to the spammer, letting them know that you looked at it, and then you're hosed; note that spambayes doesn't do this, but *you* can do it merely by viewing an HTML spam). > and now that it's out there, I know from experience the abuse will > only grow. No argument there. > I will not recommend your program to anybody unless they already have > a large problem with spam. Suit yourself -- although if I thought a program was advertising my email address to spammers, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. From Amir_Katz at bmc.com Wed Mar 10 00:18:39 2004 From: Amir_Katz at bmc.com (Katz, Amir) Date: Wed Mar 10 00:20:17 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Mailing List Message-ID: This is yet another example of people using a tool without fully understanding what its purpose is and how it works...and then blaming it for their troubles. I'm not sure it's worthy of the SB developers' time to try to educate such people - hey, it's a free product - you don't like it? don't use it, end of story. You have a problem? you can ask nicely for advice instead of throwing accusations. -----Original Message----- From: Chris Mooney [mailto:moonsail@marinanet.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 15:53 To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Mailing List I recently subscribed to Spambayes at the recommendation of a friend. I liked the sound of the methods your program uses to learn each users tastes. I have been using my current e-mail id for about 15 months, and remarkably only was receiving one or two junk mails a week. My main reason for installing Spambayes now was so I wouldn't forget about it by the time I really needed it. Within hours of installing Spambayes, I received a junk mail. Within the the next couple of days I was getting several a day. Now after two weeks, I'm getting five or six per day. While your program is handling them great, I resent the fact that you were obviously the source of spreading my e-mail, and now that it's out there, I know from experience the abuse will only grow. I will not recommend your program to anybody unless they already have a large problem with spam. Chris Mooney -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040310/4613ab50/attachment.html From jepler at unpythonic.net Wed Mar 10 08:02:40 2004 From: jepler at unpythonic.net (Jeff Epler) Date: Wed Mar 10 08:03:00 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes training: not on sent messages? In-Reply-To: <200403101106.i2AB6ENq001956@outmx016.isp.belgacom.be> References: <200403101106.i2AB6ENq001956@outmx016.isp.belgacom.be> Message-ID: <20040310130240.GA25066@unpythonic.net> On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 12:06:14PM +0100, frank.clarijs@belgacom.net wrote: > I tried to train Spambayes today, but found it only trained on about > half of the ham I served it. It seems that Spambayes is not training on > messages that I sent, only on messages I received. Is that considered > the normal way the tool works or is this somewhere a bug? I would have sworn this is in the FAQ (http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html) but I didn't find it. Training on messages you sent is discouraged, and I think the Outlook plug-in even takes steps to stop you from doing it. It's presumed that messages you send are sufficiently different from messages you receive that training on them would not improve the filter accuracy. Jeff From Administrator at geneseeins.com Wed Mar 10 09:29:54 2004 From: Administrator at geneseeins.com (Administrator@geneseeins.com) Date: Wed Mar 10 09:30:42 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Symantec AVF detected a repairable/quarantined virus in a message you sent (SYM:21678939342786606427) Message-ID: <007601c406ac$2806eaa0$0300000a@GeneseeIns.local> Subject of the message: hi Recipient of the message: Roger Ware From k-e at sensewave.com Wed Mar 10 10:53:19 2004 From: k-e at sensewave.com (Karl-Erik Ruud) Date: Wed Mar 10 10:53:29 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam filtering to M2 Message-ID: Hi! Have I misunderstood something? I thought SpamBayes would act as a filter preventing spam to appear at all in my browser (I'm using Opera 7.23 on Windows XP Home Edition, SpamBayes version 0.4 (Pop/Imap version for Windows)). How do I configure SpamBayes to prevent spam from being forwarded to Opera? Or is it impossible? By the way, SpamBayes have been trained so good now that it allways recognizes spam as spam. Best regards, Karl-Erik Ruud From tweber at siemens-emis.com Wed Mar 10 10:56:21 2004 From: tweber at siemens-emis.com (Weber, Anthony A.(Tony)) Date: Wed Mar 10 10:57:18 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Would like to move SpamBayes databases Message-ID: <8A262440158002458980405B1A7E2F5C0847A3B0@bpkn001e.empros.com> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Blank Bkgrd.gif Type: image/gif Size: 145 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040310/fcb2d59b/BlankBkgrd-0001.gif From tim at fourstonesExpressions.com Wed Mar 10 11:01:43 2004 From: tim at fourstonesExpressions.com (Tim Stone) Date: Wed Mar 10 11:02:08 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam filtering to M2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 16:53:19 +0100, Karl-Erik Ruud wrote: > Hi! > > > Have I misunderstood something? I thought SpamBayes would act as a > filter preventing spam to appear at all in my browser (I'm using Opera > 7.23 on Windows XP Home Edition, SpamBayes version 0.4 (Pop/Imap version > for Windows)). How do I configure SpamBayes to prevent spam from being > forwarded to Opera? Spambayes does not do anything in the way of automatic discarding of messages. All mail that is sent to you will appear in your inbox. It will simply be classified so you can then chose to process it as you wish. In opera, you can easily create a spam view, filtered on any header containing X-Spambayes-Classification: spam. Then spam will appear in that folder, and you can review for any misclassifications. It is the possibility of misclassification that prevents us from automatically destroying any of your mail. The training might just be so good that it recognizes the mail telling you about your increase in pay, pending your acknowledgement of receipt of the email, as an increase in something else, and classify it as spam. If we were to automatically destroy it, you'd never get the mail, and you'd certainly eventually really hate spambayes for it... Or is it impossible? By the way, SpamBayes have been > trained so good now that it allways recognizes spam as spam. > > > > Best regards, > Karl-Erik Ruud > > > _______________________________________________ > Spambayes@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ From KPham at Alderwoodwater.com Wed Mar 10 11:02:34 2004 From: KPham at Alderwoodwater.com (Khoa Pham) Date: Wed Mar 10 11:03:21 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Is it possible to use SpamBayes to classify emails coming in from an smtp server? Message-ID: <187FA0CCCD98D411854400508B4A91F405B1690A@awd_main.alderwoodwater.com> We have an Exchange environment where we use smtp only. Our Exchange server receive email from an smtp relay. Is it possible to configure SpamBayes to listen on port 25 for incoming emails? Thanks. Khoa. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040310/ddb55bcc/attachment.html From tweber at siemens-emis.com Wed Mar 10 11:11:48 2004 From: tweber at siemens-emis.com (Tony Weber) Date: Wed Mar 10 11:11:56 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Would like to move SpamBayes databases In-Reply-To: <200403101609.i2AG9sk78102@kahuna.empros.com> from "Tony Weber" at Mar 10, 2004 10:09:53 AM Message-ID: <200403101611.i2AGBn934386@kahuna.empros.com> Folks, Our sysadm department is strictly limiting user profile disk space and I would like to move my SpamBayes databases out of the this area. Specifically, I would like to move the databases out of: C:\Documents and Settings\[username]\Application Data\SpamBayes to a directory local to my PC. I tried moving the file and creating a shortcut in the above directory, but that did not work. I am running Microsoft Windows XP Professional version 2002, service pack 1. This site is running Outlook 2002 SP1 with a central Exchange server. Is there a way to do this? -- (Anthony A.) Tony Weber tweber@siemens-emis.com Siemens Power Transmission & Distribution, Inc. Mail drop: 012 7225 Northland Drive Brooklyn Park, MN 55428-1540 USA Office: (763)536-4461 Fax: (763)536-4919 Lab: (763)536-4665 From wgorlitz at telus.net Wed Mar 10 11:20:31 2004 From: wgorlitz at telus.net (Walter Gorlitz) Date: Wed Mar 10 11:30:11 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Would like to move SpamBayes databases In-Reply-To: <200403101611.i2AGBn934386@kahuna.empros.com> References: <200403101609.i2AG9sk78102@kahuna.empros.com> <200403101611.i2AGBn934386@kahuna.empros.com> Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.0.20040310081611.01ca4ec0@localhost> At 08:11 AM 2004-03-10, you wrote: >Folks, > >Our sysadm department is strictly limiting user profile disk space and I >would like to move my SpamBayes databases out of the this area. > >Specifically, I would like to move the databases out of: > > C:\Documents and Settings\[username]\Application Data\SpamBayes > >to a directory local to my PC. > >I tried moving the file and creating a shortcut in the above directory, but >that did not work. > >I am running Microsoft Windows XP Professional version 2002, service pack 1. >This site is running Outlook 2002 SP1 with a central Exchange server. > >Is there a way to do this? There is if you use the python version, but there isn't a setting for it in the Outlook plug-in's GUI. Perhaps this could be added to a future version's Advanced pane. From papaDoc at videotron.ca Wed Mar 10 11:36:05 2004 From: papaDoc at videotron.ca (papaDoc) Date: Wed Mar 10 11:35:27 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Would like to move SpamBayes databases In-Reply-To: <200403101611.i2AGBn934386@kahuna.empros.com> References: <200403101611.i2AGBn934386@kahuna.empros.com> Message-ID: <404F43F5.8090100@videotron.ca> Hi Tony, I like this email better since this is not HTML. (see signature ... ) What you can do is move your database where ever you want then you have to tell spambayes that your database has move. Look at the ini file in the same directory of your database Find the line messageinfo_storage_file:C:\Documents and Settings\[username]\Application Data\SpamBayes\Proxy\message_info_database.db persistent_storage_file:C:\Documents and Settings\[username]\Application Data\SpamBayes\Proxy\statistics_database.db and set the new path. P.S,.Keep the ini file in the C:\Documents and Settings\[username]\Application Data\SpamBayes directory Remi P.S. I'm not using the Outlook plugins so ..... no garanty that this will work but it should...... >Folks, > >Our sysadm department is strictly limiting user profile disk space and I >would like to move my SpamBayes databases out of the this area. > >Specifically, I would like to move the databases out of: > > C:\Documents and Settings\[username]\Application Data\SpamBayes > >to a directory local to my PC. > >I tried moving the file and creating a shortcut in the above directory, but >that did not work. > >I am running Microsoft Windows XP Professional version 2002, service pack 1. >This site is running Outlook 2002 SP1 with a central Exchange server. > >Is there a way to do this? > > > > -- /"\ \ / X ASCII Ribbon Campaign / \ Against HTML Email From rmalayter at bai.org Wed Mar 10 12:28:23 2004 From: rmalayter at bai.org (Ryan Malayter) Date: Wed Mar 10 12:28:29 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Is it possible to use SpamBayes to classify emailscoming in from an smtp server? Message-ID: <792DE28E91F6EA42B4663AE761C41C2A01E1A490@cliff.bai.org> [Khoa Pham] >We have an Exchange environment where we use smtp only. >Our Exchange server receive email from an smtp relay. >Is it possible to configure SpamBayes to listen on port >25 for incoming emails? You should check out http://assp.sourceforge.net, which was designed to do exactly this. It's not absed on spambayes, but it is a modefied Bayesian filter and seems to work fairly well. Regards, Ryan Malayter Bank Administration Institute Chicago, Illinois, USA PGP Key: http://www.malayter.com/pgp-public.txt ========================= All problems can be solved by diplomacy, but violence and treachery are equally effective, and more fun. -Anonymous From David.Bear at asu.edu Wed Mar 10 13:40:40 2004 From: David.Bear at asu.edu (David Bear) Date: Wed Mar 10 13:41:32 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] error in mboxtrain, consistently around 400 Message-ID: <20040310184040.GA7833@asu.edu> using the latest spambayes on linux, python 2.3.x on suse. when using mboxtrain I get a consistent error at or around message 400.. malformed message .. I've gone through and removed about 50 messages before and after number 400 and mboxtrain still says it can't use the mailbox to train. I've even run the mailbox through formail to create another new mailbox to see if that solve the issue. This seems to be a bug in the training script. The ugly thing is that it only chokes on ham. The spam mailbox works. Any suggestions? I have about 1200 spam and around 1000 ham... -- David Bear phone: 480-965-8257 fax: 480-965-9189 College of Public Programs/ASU Wilson Hall 232 Tempe, AZ 85287-0803 "Beware the IP portfolio, everyone will be suspect of trespassing" From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Mar 10 16:56:12 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Mar 10 16:57:03 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Would like to move SpamBayes databases In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305645737@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2B0F@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> [Tony Weber] > Our sysadm department is strictly limiting user profile disk > space and I would like to move my SpamBayes databases out of > the this area. [...] > Is there a way to do this? [Walter Gorlitz] > There is if you use the python version, but there isn't a > setting for it in the Outlook plug-in's GUI. Perhaps this > could be added to a future version's Advanced pane. [Remi] > What you can do is move your database where ever you want then you have > to tell spambayes that your database has move. [...] > P.S. I'm not using the Outlook plugins so ..... no garanty that this > will work but it should...... Unforunately neither of these replies is correct. Walter is correct that the option is not *exposed* via the GUI, but it's still there and still usable. It's not exposed because it's considered more advanced than advanced, so if you want to do it, then you have to get your hands into the config files. Remi's description is correct for all the SpamBayes applications *except* the Outlook plug-in, which does things it's own way. What you actually have to do is described in the Configuration Guide. If you do Help->About SpamBayes, then click on the Configuration Guide link, there are instructions there (at the bottom under "Multiple Configuration Files"). Basically you have to create a configuration file in the default location or in the SpamBayes program directory itself that includes the [General] data_directory option, pointing to the location that will be used. Some people have had trouble following the instructions in the Configuration Guide. If you, too, have troubles, please let the list know and someone will help further (preferably, also explaining what wasn't clear, so that we can fix the documentation). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From skip at pobox.com Wed Mar 10 17:07:47 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Wed Mar 10 17:07:58 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] error in mboxtrain, consistently around 400 In-Reply-To: <20040310184040.GA7833@asu.edu> References: <20040310184040.GA7833@asu.edu> Message-ID: <16463.37299.842022.215574@montanaro.dyndns.org> David> using the latest spambayes on linux, python 2.3.x on suse. when David> using mboxtrain I get a consistent error at or around message David> 400.. malformed message .. Can you post the precise Python traceback? David> I've gone through and removed about 50 messages before and after David> number 400 and mboxtrain still says it can't use the mailbox to David> train. If you use a binary split technique you should be able to identify the culprit message fairly quickly. Split the mailbox into roughly two equal parts and run mboxtrain on each. Repeat the process on the mailbox which demonstrates the error until you have a file with a single message which causes mboxtrain to fail. It should take about ten repetitions of this process (2**10 == 1024) to identify the culprit if there's only one. If you can post the culprit message that would be helpful as well. Note that you might have multiple malformed messages so you'd have to pursue multiple smaller mailboxes. Skip From mcaldwell at pesengineers.com Wed Mar 10 17:10:45 2004 From: mcaldwell at pesengineers.com (Mary Caldwell) Date: Wed Mar 10 17:11:04 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] recover from spam button gone Message-ID: <1EE0F6C136286C48B0817B73E3D70686EC0045@PONYEXPRESS.eberly.net> My recover from spam button disappeared. How do I get it back? I have Windows XP and have version 1.63. Thanks! Mary Caldwell Marketing Coordinator Eberly & Associates, Inc. Pruitt Eberly Stone, Inc 770-452-7849 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We tell you that we will update our VE h&r (hydraulic heads for the VE distributor pump) list in our homepages.Thirty more models will be added.And the minimum order will be 10pcs a model. we give the unity quotation of VE distributor head: 3-cyl:USD:55/1pcs 4-cyl:USD:40~50/1pcs 5-cyl:USD:60/1pcs 6-cyl:USD:45~50/1pcs We can ship the following three models to you within 6~8 weeks. after we receive your payment. If you feel interested in our products,please advise the details about what you need,such model name,part number,quantity and so on.We are always within your touch. Thanks and best regards Looking forward to our favorable cooperation. Hope to hear from you soon. (NIPPON DENSO) D00-0143 D00-0242 D00-0262 D00-0371 D00-0432 D00-1030 D00-1060 D00-1090 D00-1210 D00-1220 D00-1230 D00-1240 D00-1250 D00-1330 D00-1331 D00-1600 D40-0080 ZEXEL Z00-2220 Z00-3320 Z00-4520 Z00-5521 Z00-8821 Z00-9720 Z01-0520 Z01-2120 Z02-0820 Z02-0920 Z02-1420 Z02-4020 Z02-4320 Z02-3820 Z03-2820 Z03-3120 Z03-3520 Z04-1520 Z04-2200 Z05-1920 Z30-1420 BOSCH A 333 320 A 333 323 A 334 313 A 334 327 A 334 565 A 334 337 A 334 378 A 334 424 A 334 475 A 334 485 A 334 494 A 334 496 A 334 580 A 334 590 A 334 564 A 334 565 A 334 575 A 334 592 A 334 595 A 334 596 A 334 603 A 334 604 A 334 606 A 334 617 A 334 675 A 334 678 A 334 720 A 334 780 A 334 798 A 334 859 A 334 874 A 334 899 A 334 946 A 335 345 B 335 022 A 336 335 A 336 352 A 336 364 A 336 403 A 336 423 A 336 464 A 336 480 A 336 528 A 336 608 A 336 614 A 336 626 A 336 632 B 334 050 B 334 021 B 336 013 We have a large number of nozzle, plunger and delivery valve in stock.Here is a list of part of them. " " NOZZLE 093400-1310 DN0SD193 093400-1710 DLLA160SND171 093400-2280 DNOSD228 093400-5210 DNOPD21 093400-5571 ND-DN4PD57 093400-5590 ND-DLLA150P59 093400-7690 ND-DN10PDN129 093400-7700 ND-DN10PDN130 DNOSD261 DNOSD220 DNOSD293 DLLA150P205 DLLA150S1070 105000-108 NP-DNOSD211 105000-1130 NP-DN4SD24 10500-1650 NP-DNOSD2110 105000-1080 NP-DNOSD211 105000-1360 NP-DN4SD24 105000-1730 NP-DNOSD21 105000-1740 NP-DNOSD193 105000-1760 105000-2280 NP-DNOSDN228 105007-1120 NP-DNOPDN112 105007-1130 NP-DN0PDN113 105007-1210 NP-DNOPDN121 105015-2780 NP-DLLA166S374NP6 105015-3280 NP-DLLA150S328NP52 105015-3520 DLLA150S384NP73 105015-3650 NP-DLLA151S354N86 105015-3670 NP-DLLA160S354NP88 105015-3850 NP-DLLA150S334N385 105015-4130 NP-DLLA154S324N413 105015-4170 NP-DLLA137S374N417 105015-4190 DLLA154S334N419 105015-4220 NP-DLLA160S295N422 105015-4330 NP-DLLA105S304N433 105015-4730 NP-DLLA148S324N473 105015-5070 NP-DLLA160S325N507 105015-6130 NP-DLLA142SN613 105015-6380 DLLA158SN638 105015-8690 DLLA158SN869 105015-8860 NP-DLLA148SN886 105017-0070 NP-DLLA154PN007 105017-0090 NP-DLLA152PN009 105017-0630 NP-DLLA152PN063 105017-0670 DLLA154PN067 105017-0100 DLLA160PN010 105017-0210 DLLA150PN021 105017-0211/10 DLLA150PN021 105017-0900 DLLA152PN009 105017-1160 NP-DLLA154PN116 105017-1180 DLLA155PN118 105007-1210 NP-DNOPDN121 105017-1780 DLLA153PN178 0 433 271 740 0 433 271 047 DLLA150S187 0 433 271 045 DLLA150S186 0 433 171 031 DLLA150P30 0 433 171 050 DLLA160P50 0 433 171 059 DLLA150P59 0 433 171 104 DLLA150P115 0 433 171 149 DLLA146P166 0 433 171 137 DLLA146P154 0 433 171 161 DLLA144P184 0 433 171 172 DLLA154P206 0 433 171 231 DLLA150P326 0 433 171 435 DLLA145P574 0 433 171 444 DLLA150P585 0 433 175 048 DSLA145P300 0 433 271 045 DLLA150S186 0 433 271 047 DLLA150S187 0 433 271 361 DLLA150S739 0 433 271 404 DLLA142S792 0 433 271 874 DLLA150S739 0 466 171 003 DLL-A160P3 NP-DLL154S284N393 NP-DLL160S 354NP88 6801128 6801118 PLUNGER LIST: 131101-7020 0-4 131101-7520 0-9 A17 131151-2720 A43 131151-3220 A44 131151-5820 A74 131151-7320 A89 A98 131152-1420 A138 A147 131152-2220 A148 131152-3120 A158 131152-3320 A160 131152-5620 A188 131153-1220 A196 131152-8520 A226 131153-8920 A768 A722 134101-1420 P2 134101-1520 P3 P4 134101-1820 P6 134101-3820 P25 134101-6320 P48 134101-6420 P49 Delivery valve 146430-1420 131160-1920 02A 131160-2220 05A 131160-2920 12A 131160-3620 20A 134110-0120 P1 134110-0520 P4 134110-0920 P8 134110-4520 P44 131110-0620 161S2 134110-0920 P8 134110-4520 P44 134110-7420 P73 131110-2920 A9 131110-3920 A20 131110-4720 A28 131110-5120 A32 131110-5220 A33 131110-5920 A40 13110-6820 A49 131110-7720 A58 131110-7820 A59 131110-9420 A75 131160-0420 A85 1 468 532 247 A247 146430-0020 VE1 146430-1420 VE15 " dieselfuelinject@eyou.com From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Mar 10 23:23:17 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Mar 10 23:24:08 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problems getting Spambayes IMAP Filter to work(re-submitted) In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305644FC2@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2B18@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > when I try to access the pages to specify the mailbox folders to > filter and those to use for training, this is what I get [...] > abort: socket error: (10054, 'Connection reset by peer') Do you have a very large number of folders available on the IMAP server? The problem might be that it's taking to long to generate the list of folders. Alternatively, is the connection to your IMAP server quite slow? It might be that it takes to long to get the list. Either way, I think the timeout for the web interface was increased recently, and IIRC there is a feature request open to make it user customizable. Richie would probably be the one that would have to do that. > Obviously, I cannot use the script until this problem is resolved. Any > help to that end would be greatly appreciated. You can manually specify the folders to use. If you open up your configuration file (the main config page says where it is) you can insert these lines: """ [imap] filter_folders:INBOX,folder/name,third/folder/name unsure_folder:INBOX/unsure spam_folder:INBOX/spam ham_train_folders:INBOX,folder/name,third/folder/name spam_train_folders:INBOX/spam_to_train,INBOX/more_spam_to_train """ Your folder delimiter might not be '/', depending on what IMAP server you are using. =Tony Meyer From clyde.hardacker at nikkisocryo.com Thu Mar 11 11:17:23 2004 From: clyde.hardacker at nikkisocryo.com (Clyde Hardacker) Date: Thu Mar 11 11:16:56 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] curious happening this morning Message-ID: I checked my e-mail this morning and had a curious Occurance. The Junk Folder was moved to the deleted items folder and did not allow me to run spam bayes It gave me a warning box and said I needed to reconfigure the pro. It also happened on my friends computer the same error and message and the same fix needed to be applied. I thought that this was inportant for you to know that there is someone out there trying to remove force out your great program. Thank You, Clyde (Mike) Hardacker Nikkiso Cryo Inc. Engineering & IT Department (702)643-4900 Ext 103 From jc_walker at agilent.com Thu Mar 11 11:27:50 2004 From: jc_walker at agilent.com (jc_walker@agilent.com) Date: Thu Mar 11 11:27:56 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Lost email upon first try Message-ID: <0A78D025ACD7C24F84BD52449D8505A101182C8D@wcosmb01.cos.agilent.com> Hi all, I've lost 5 or 6 very important emails upon trying your product. I have no idea where they went. A colleague of mine loved your product, so I downloaded it, and brought up my outlook tool. Mails immediately went into the suspect folder. I was delighted. I selected all 5 - 6 emails and pressed the button that says to return the emails to wherever they came from ( I can't see the name of the button right now, so I don't have the exact name for you...it's NOT the Delete As Spam button, but the other one). My emails never came back. I need to get these emails. Very important... they're work related. What do I do? My INBOX was specified as the folder to check. It's on an email exchange server. Unfortunately I had two rules turned on at the time of installation. Those rules were from the organize dialog, on only said to turn on the spam and adult filters. I've turned them off now. How do I get my emails back? Judy Walker From gnikel at oanet.com Thu Mar 11 11:44:53 2004 From: gnikel at oanet.com (George Nikel) Date: Thu Mar 11 11:31:56 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spanbayes program Message-ID: <000001c40788$2eedf570$041f99cf@nikel> Good morning, I recently downloaded your spambayes anti spam program and after I downloaded it and attempted to use it the following error message appeared on my screen. THERE WAS AN ERROR INITIALIZING THE SPAM PLUG IN. SPAM FILTERING HAS BEEN DISABLED. PLEASE RE- CONFIGURE AND RE-ENABLE THIS PLUG IN. ERROR DETAILS: COOULD NOT WATCH THE SPECIFIED FOLDERS. I am running Outlook2000 and have Windows2000NT as my operating system. I am on a dial in service with my internet provider. Could you please help me. Thanks, George George Nikel Nikel Equities Ltd. 12323-52 Ave. Edmonton, AB T6H OP5 Ph:780-434-4915 Fx:780-430-9106 E-Mail:gnikel@oanet.com From tim.one at comcast.net Thu Mar 11 11:46:07 2004 From: tim.one at comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Thu Mar 11 11:46:11 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] curious happening this morning In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [Clyde Hardacker] > I checked my e-mail this morning and had a curious Occurance. > The Junk Folder was moved to the deleted items folder and did > not allow me to run spam bayes It gave me a warning box and said > I needed to reconfigure the pro. It also happened on my friends > computer the same error and message and the same fix needed to be > applied. This is what Outlook *normally* does if you happen to hit your Delete key while the Junk folder is selected (Outlook moves the Junk folder then, to become a subfolder under Deleted Items). It happens to everyone sooner or later. You can use your mouse to drag the Junk folder back to your main folder. > I thought that this was inportant for you to know that there is > someone out there trying to remove force out your great program. I know you don't believe me, but before it happens another 10 times you'll eventually catch yourself doing it to yourself . From coh1pxp at ups.com Thu Mar 11 14:00:27 2004 From: coh1pxp at ups.com (Pontius Pam (COH1PXP)) Date: Thu Mar 11 14:01:08 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] How can I correct a deleted email address Message-ID: <0E3E7E5DBA9D724E8FBF6B64DA6B20B116ADE740@njrarsvr038f.us.ups.com> I put a message in the spam box in error. This is a person I receive messages from weekly. The sender was put in the spam box by mistake. How can I update this error? Pam Pontius UPS 614-497-6020 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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RE: Would like to move SpamBayes databases (Tony Meyer) ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 10:56:12 +1300 From: "Tony Meyer" Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Would like to move SpamBayes databases To: "'Tony Weber'" , Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2B0F@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" [Tony Weber] > Our sysadm department is strictly limiting user profile disk > space and I would like to move my SpamBayes databases out of > the this area. [...] > Is there a way to do this? [Walter Gorlitz] > There is if you use the python version, but there isn't a > setting for it in the Outlook plug-in's GUI. Perhaps this > could be added to a future version's Advanced pane. [Remi] > What you can do is move your database where ever you want then you have > to tell spambayes that your database has move. [...] > P.S. I'm not using the Outlook plugins so ..... no garanty that this > will work but it should...... Unforunately neither of these replies is correct. Walter is correct that the option is not *exposed* via the GUI, but it's still there and still usable. It's not exposed because it's considered more advanced than advanced, so if you want to do it, then you have to get your hands into the config files. Remi's description is correct for all the SpamBayes applications *except* the Outlook plug-in, which does things it's own way. What you actually have to do is described in the Configuration Guide. If you do Help->About SpamBayes, then click on the Configuration Guide link, there are instructions there (at the bottom under "Multiple Configuration Files"). Basically you have to create a configuration file in the default location or in the SpamBayes program directory itself that includes the [General] data_directory option, pointing to the location that will be used. Some people have had trouble following the instructions in the Configuration Guide. If you, too, have troubles, please let the list know and someone will help further (preferably, also explaining what wasn't clear, so that we can fix the documentation). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I played around with the information you supplied and found out the following. I had moved my "large" databases from the default directory \Documentation and Settings\\Application Data\SpamBayes to my local directory \Outlook files There were two .ini files in the first directory: default.ini default_bayes_customize.ini that were getting referenced every time I started up Outlook. I found that "default" was my "outlook_user_profile" via Settings->Control Panel->Mail>Show Profiles thus explaining the default.ini file. I tried adding: [General] data_directory:\Outlook files to each of these .ini files but the application ignored it. Per the suggested reading material I created a file default_configuration.ini in the same location \Documentation and Settings\\Application Data\SpamBayes with the same General entries but this also had no effect. Copying the latter file to any of the Program Files\SpamBayes sub-directories also failed to change anything. I finally did Start->Programs->SpamBayes->SpamBayes Outlook Addin->Properties to find out the "application directory" path which turned out to be \Documentation and Settings\\Start Menu\Programs\SpamBayes When I put the default_configuration.ini file in that directory things appeared to start working as desired. After restarting Outlook, working with spam, and shutting it back down I found that \Outlook files contained 3 SpamBayes files that were being updated default_message_database.db default_bayes_database.db default.ini The last one appears to have been created when things started working. No files are being accessed in the \Documentation and Settings\\Application Data\SpamBayes any more, which is the desired effect. Thanks everyone! P.S. I attempted to copy spambayes@python.org with yesterday's mail but it bounced. Hopefully this will work today. -- (Anthony A.) Tony Weber tweber@siemens-emis.com Siemens Power Transmission & Distribution, Inc. 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Even If I still don't want to use Outlook >the "application directory" path which turned out to be > > \Documentation and Settings\\Start Menu\Programs\SpamBayes > >When I put the > > default_configuration.ini > >file in that directory things appeared to start working as desired. > > Remi -- /"\ \ / X ASCII Ribbon Campaign / \ Against HTML Email From austria at msdirectservices.com Thu Mar 11 17:06:55 2004 From: austria at msdirectservices.com (austria@msdirectservices.com) Date: Thu Mar 11 17:07:01 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] warning Message-ID: from the chatter -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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After training the web interface showed some 390+ spam messages trained (correct). But I think that restarting the computer may somehow reset this count. Earlier today I saw that only 50 messages had been trained as spam. Could SpamBayes somehow 'forget' the training under certain circumstances? Thanks. -=mark=- From ric.o.chet at cox.net Fri Mar 12 00:53:14 2004 From: ric.o.chet at cox.net (Rick Rutledge) Date: Fri Mar 12 00:52:57 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Allowing multiple users with XP PRO and Outlook 2003 Message-ID: <20040312055251.MYPK29083.fed1mtao08.cox.net@rickm1prwdsglv> I have read the trouble shooting guide and still am stupefied. I am not sure about the following instructions, To register SpamBayes in this way, you must log on as a user with permissions to modify the system registry, then execute the command (obviously with the correct patch substituted): regsvr32.exe /i:hkey_local_machine "c:\Program Files\SpamBayes\bin\outlook_addin.dll". What exactly am I supposed to do here? I couldn?t find this string in hkey_local_machine? Please help. Thanks I am new to Windows. As Ever, Rick Rutledge HYPERLINK "mailto:ric.o.chet@cox.net"ric.o.chet@cox.net --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.618 / Virus Database: 397 - Release Date: 3/9/2004 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040311/f7cb664d/attachment.html From rglenn at nautilus-ins.com Fri Mar 12 03:01:24 2004 From: rglenn at nautilus-ins.com (rglenn@nautilus-ins.com) Date: Fri Mar 12 03:01:33 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Rebecca Glenn/PH/NIC/WRBerkley is out of the office. Message-ID: I will be out of the office starting 03/08/2004 and will not return until 03/14/2004. I will be out of the office until March 15. Please contact Doug Jones if you need assistance before I return. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail and the transmitted documents contain private, privileged and confidential information belonging to the sender. The information therein is solely for the use of the addressee. If your receipt of this transmission has occurred as the result of an error, please immediately notify us so we can arrange for the return of the documents. In such circumstances, you are advised that you may not disclose, copy, distribute or take any other action in reliance on the information transmitted. From hannu.peltola at teliasonera.com Fri Mar 12 03:42:38 2004 From: hannu.peltola at teliasonera.com (Peltola Hannu) Date: Fri Mar 12 03:42:45 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Message-ID: <6993E8F287B794488905792414BED827018F4FD8@ASSI.eur.soneragroup.net> After installation spambayes I started Outlook but nothing happens? Logfile Traceback (most recent call last): File "addin.py", line 1546, in ? File "win32com\server\register.pyc", line 477, in UseCommandLine File "win32com\server\register.pyc", line 407, in RegisterClasses File "win32com\server\register.pyc", line 261, in RegisterServer File "win32com\server\register.pyc", line 85, in _cat_registrar pywintypes.com_error: (-2147221164, 'Class not registered', None, None) I am using outlook 2000 SR1 in windows NT Hannu Peltola, TeliaSonera Finland, Broadband & Internet Services PL 710, 00051 SONERA, Elim?enkatu 5, Helsinki puh. +358 40 5452264 hannu.peltola@teliasonera.com From eddieg at talonsolutions.com Fri Mar 12 05:16:04 2004 From: eddieg at talonsolutions.com (Eddie Gomez) Date: Fri Mar 12 05:16:12 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Updated SB very slow on my Outlook 2002.. Message-ID: <000601c4081b$088c2d00$0101a8c7@mainp4> I just upgraded my V8 to V9. Prior to upgrading, all my junk email would be filtered with barely a notice in my inbox. Since upgrading to V9, now all my junk mail first appears in my inbox, then S-L-O-W-L-Y is moved to the junkmail folder. Any advice? Keep up the good work!! Eddie From info at smallware.com Fri Mar 12 05:33:39 2004 From: info at smallware.com (info@smallware.com) Date: Fri Mar 12 05:45:28 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Hokki =) Message-ID: I don't bite, weah! ..btw, "27018" is a password for archive -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: TextDocument.zip Type: application/octet-stream Size: 21978 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040312/3ff85870/TextDocument-0001.obj From noreply at python.org Fri Mar 12 08:37:25 2004 From: noreply at python.org (noreply@python.org) Date: Fri Mar 12 08:37:28 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Important notify about your e-mail account. Message-ID: Hello user of Python.org e-mail server, Your e-mail account will be disabled because of improper using in next three days, if you are still wishing to use it, please, resign your account information. For further details see the attach. In order to read the attach you have to use the following password: 68826. Kind regards, The Python.org team http://www.python.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Attach.zip Type: application/octet-stream Size: 12420 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040312/dbdc7bed/Attach.obj From skip at pobox.com Fri Mar 12 08:54:30 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Fri Mar 12 08:54:41 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Small Bug - medium-sized bug... In-Reply-To: <40514270.4030900@comcast.net> References: <40514270.4030900@comcast.net> Message-ID: <16465.49430.946195.102797@montanaro.dyndns.org> mark> If you mark the messages, say, some as ham and some as spam and mark> then you click any heading to sort the messages by the heading mark> (subject or from), all of the messages get marked as defer. mark> Happens reliably. Seems unnecessary to reset the choices that way mark> - would be more helpful to keep them unchanged after a sort. This is actually by design. The idea of those headings is to make it easy for you to tell the proxy, "almost all the messages are of this class, except the exceptions, which I'll click later." Try clicking the heading first, then clicking the exceptions. If you think some different behavior would be preferable, take a look at the source for the review page and try to come up with a reasonable patch. It's just a little bit of JavaScript which sets the buttons. I don't think you'll find a behavior that's better than the current setup. mark> Second problem - I trained spam on a folder in Mozilla. After mark> training the web interface showed some 390+ spam messages trained mark> (correct). But I think that restarting the computer may somehow mark> reset this count. Earlier today I saw that only 50 messages had mark> been trained as spam. Could SpamBayes somehow 'forget' the mark> training under certain circumstances? Sorry, can't help you with this one. One of the pop3proxy developers will have to chime in. Skip From tim at fourstonesExpressions.com Fri Mar 12 09:08:19 2004 From: tim at fourstonesExpressions.com (Tim Stone) Date: Fri Mar 12 09:08:44 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Important notify about your e-mail account. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Now THIS one is just plain insidious... On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 08:37:25 -0500, wrote: > Hello user of Python.org e-mail server, > > Your e-mail account will be disabled because of improper using in next > three days, if you are still wishing to use it, please, resign your > account information. > > For further details see the attach. > > In order to read the attach you have to use the following password: > 68826. > > Kind regards, > The Python.org team > http://www.python.org -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ From Remy.Lapointe at agr.gouv.qc.ca Fri Mar 12 08:52:07 2004 From: Remy.Lapointe at agr.gouv.qc.ca (Remy.Lapointe@agr.gouv.qc.ca) Date: Fri Mar 12 09:11:52 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] button Enable Filtering Message-ID: <6955042E76FBD31190EC00508B6C665A091ECCE4@QUBC1-NTCOUP2.mapaq.gouv.qc.ca> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative From lpelletier at nautilus-ins.com Fri Mar 12 10:03:53 2004 From: lpelletier at nautilus-ins.com (lpelletier@nautilus-ins.com) Date: Fri Mar 12 10:04:03 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Lisa Pelletier/PH/NIC/WRBerkley is out of the office. Message-ID: I will be out of the office starting 03/12/2004 and will not return until 03/16/2004. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail and the transmitted documents contain private, privileged and confidential information belonging to the sender. The information therein is solely for the use of the addressee. If your receipt of this transmission has occurred as the result of an error, please immediately notify us so we can arrange for the return of the documents. In such circumstances, you are advised that you may not disclose, copy, distribute or take any other action in reliance on the information transmitted. From arvid at linux.se Fri Mar 12 11:14:03 2004 From: arvid at linux.se (Arvid Andersson) Date: Fri Mar 12 11:14:13 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Important notify about your e-mail account. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040312161403.GA18122@shell.linux.se> On Fri, Mar 12, 2004 at 08:08:19AM -0600, Tim Stone wrote: > Now THIS one is just plain insidious... > > On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 08:37:25 -0500, wrote: > > >Hello user of Python.org e-mail server, > > > >Your e-mail account will be disabled because of improper using in next > >three days, if you are still wishing to use it, please, resign your > >account information. > > > > [...] Now how would I mark your reply to that spam? Ham or spam? It does contain a lot of spammy words, so I may pollute my database if I mark it as ham. On the other hand, I might want to receive comments about spam like this -it is a spam related mailing list after all. How do you experienced spam fighters mark mail such as this? Or those automatic on-vacation replies for that matter? /Arvid Andersson From tim at fourstonesExpressions.com Fri Mar 12 11:28:40 2004 From: tim at fourstonesExpressions.com (Tim Stone) Date: Fri Mar 12 11:29:07 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Important notify about your e-mail account. In-Reply-To: <20040312161403.GA18122@shell.linux.se> References: <20040312161403.GA18122@shell.linux.se> Message-ID: On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 17:14:03 +0100, Arvid Andersson wrote: > How do you experienced spam fighters mark mail such as this? Or > those automatic on-vacation replies for that matter? I have my filter rules set up in such a way that if the mail comes from a spambayes list, I ignore the spambayes classification. All spambayes mail goes into a spambayes folder. When I'm training, I rarely train on spambayes replies, and only train spambayes emails as ham that I know do not contain a spam. I rarely train a spambayes email that contains spam; I generally discard these without any training. -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ From kennypitt at hotmail.com Fri Mar 12 13:53:22 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Fri Mar 12 13:54:30 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] How can I correct a deleted email address In-Reply-To: <0E3E7E5DBA9D724E8FBF6B64DA6B20B116ADE740@njrarsvr038f.us.ups.com> Message-ID: Pontius Pam (COH1PXP) wrote: > I put a message in the spam box in error. This is a person I receive > messages from weekly. The sender was put in the spam box by mistake. > How can I update this error? Just locate and select the message in your spam folder. Then click the "Recover from Spam" button or drag the message back to your Inbox. SpamBayes will then change the training of that message from spam to good. -- Kenny Pitt From kennypitt at hotmail.com Fri Mar 12 14:01:31 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Fri Mar 12 14:02:37 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Updated SB very slow on my Outlook 2002.. In-Reply-To: <000601c4081b$088c2d00$0101a8c7@mainp4> Message-ID: Eddie Gomez wrote: > I just upgraded my V8 to V9. Prior to upgrading, all my junk email > would be filtered with barely a notice in my inbox. > > Since upgrading to V9, now all my junk mail first appears in my > inbox, then S-L-O-W-L-Y is moved to the junkmail folder. This results from a change in the default settings for the plugin. A lot of users had unexpected conflicts with Outlook rules, so we enabled our "background filtering" option which adds delays to make sure that Outlook rules have time to run before SpamBayes processes the messages. You can turn this feature off in SpamBayes Manager by going to the Advanced tab and unchecking the "Enable background filtering" option. -- Kenny Pitt From kennypitt at hotmail.com Fri Mar 12 14:09:21 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Fri Mar 12 14:10:27 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Important notify about your e-mail account. In-Reply-To: <20040312161403.GA18122@shell.linux.se> Message-ID: Arvid Andersson wrote: > How do you experienced spam fighters mark mail such as this? Or > those automatic on-vacation replies for that matter? I usually delete vacation replies without training. For normal list traffic, I only train on truly "normal" messages (and as few of those as I can to get decent accuracy) and try to avoid training any messages that include clues from or snippets of a spam message. The standard information that is common to all list messages is usually sufficient to properly classify these. I occassionally train on a spam message that I receive via the list, but usually I just delete any that make it through without training on them and rely on training of similar spam messages that I get from other sources. -- Kenny Pitt From kennypitt at hotmail.com Fri Mar 12 14:16:16 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Fri Mar 12 14:17:21 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Lost email upon first try In-Reply-To: <0A78D025ACD7C24F84BD52449D8505A101182C8D@wcosmb01.cos.agilent.com> Message-ID: jc_walker@agilent.com wrote: > I've lost 5 or 6 very important emails upon trying your product. I > have no idea where they went. A colleague of mine loved your > product, so I downloaded it, and brought up my outlook tool. Mails > immediately went into the suspect folder. I was delighted. I > selected all 5 - 6 emails and pressed the button that says to return > the emails to wherever they came from. My emails never came > back. The "Advanced Find" feature of Outlook is usually the best way to find missing messages. FAQ 3.12 has some info: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#some-of-my-mail-is-going-missi ng I don't use Exchange Server myself, but I seem to remember that there are some cases where SpamBayes is not able to move your messages back to the Exchange Server Inbox when you use Recover from Spam. If this is the case, the messages probably got moved to the Inbox in your Personal Folders instead. -- Kenny Pitt From msears at xia.com Fri Mar 12 16:47:05 2004 From: msears at xia.com (Michael Sears) Date: Fri Mar 12 16:39:20 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] bug 904526, large number of messages have no spam score Message-ID: Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: spambayes3.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 17665 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040312/5a4535ad/spambayes3-0001.obj From tim.one at comcast.net Fri Mar 12 21:18:10 2004 From: tim.one at comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Fri Mar 12 21:18:13 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Important notify about your e-mail account. In-Reply-To: <20040312161403.GA18122@shell.linux.se> Message-ID: [Tim Stone, forwards and comments on a spam] [Arvid Andersson] > Now how would I mark your reply to that spam? Ham or spam? Was it ham or spam to *you*? That's how should you train it. > It does contain a lot of spammy words, so I may pollute my database > if I mark it as ham. On the other hand, I might want to receive > comments about spam like this -it is a spam related mailing list > after all. Don't worry about polluting the database. This is a "preponderance of evidence" scheme, not a rule-based scheme, and a spammy word simply won't become hammy unless it actually appears in more trained ham than spam. If it does, then continuing to *call* it a spammy word anyway belies your actual judgment of the thing (and the system has learned enough to call your bluff then ). > How do you experienced spam fighters mark mail such as this? Or > those automatic on-vacation replies for that matter? The real problem with "on vacation" kinds of things is that *I* change my mind, and often, about whether they're ham or spam to me. Then it just doesn't work to train on piles of those as ham on Monday, but as spam on Tuesday when I'm more pressed for time and so more resent dealing with them -- garbage in, garbage out. So I've found that the best thing to do with Unsures like that is to delete them without training on them either way. I have tried training on them, but it's seemingly impossible for me to judge them consistently day after day. I also get plenty of Unsures where I have no real idea whether they're spam or illiterate ham. I imagine the latter are familiar to anyone on the receiving end of a public "admin" or "help" mailing address. It works best for me to delete those untrained too. From ric.o.chet at cox.net Fri Mar 12 23:37:50 2004 From: ric.o.chet at cox.net (Rick Rutledge) Date: Fri Mar 12 23:37:55 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Multiple users on XP Pro Outlook 2003 using binary install of SpamBayes I did read the troubleshooting guide Message-ID: <20040313043751.WGLF23486.fed1mtao04.cox.net@rickm1prwdsglv> Hello, I installed the latest binary version of SpamBayes (.9 I think (feb 2004)) onto an XP Pro machine running Outlook 2003. I read the troubleshooting guide on multiple users across one machine, and ran the command (regsvr32.exe /i:hkey_local_machine "c:\Program Files\SpamBayes\bin\outlook_addin.dll") I then got this message, (c:\Program Files\SpamBayes\bin\outlook_addin.dll was loaded, but the DllInstall entry point was not found. This file can not be registered.) I checked the log file, it reads, (Registered: SpamBayes.OutlookAddin Registration complete.) no third line That reads (Registration (in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE) complete.). I know the install works fine, because as administrator it is filtering my email fine. I have a few more user accounts on this machine that I would really like to have access to this wonderful tool. Any help at all would be awesome. -=mark=- pointed me in the direction of Tony Meyer, if your there brother, can you help me out? As Ever, Rick HYPERLINK "mailto:ric.o.chet@cox.net"ric.o.chet@cox.net p.s. Where can I send a donation to this project? --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.620 / Virus Database: 399 - Release Date: 3/11/2004 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040312/e8f9db2e/attachment.html From harikrsna at sprintmail.com Sat Mar 13 00:06:11 2004 From: harikrsna at sprintmail.com (Krandall Kraus) Date: Sat Mar 13 00:06:13 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Help Message-ID: <002501c408b8$e7e2c660$fdfe56d1@ANDY> I would like to use your program. A friend sent me a copy but I can't find a setup file. Neither can I locate your site on the web. I use Outlook Express/Internet Explorer. Will your program work for me and how can I download it? How can I make a contribution? For some reason since the new antispam bill was passed I have been receiving up to 100 emails a day -- 99% spam. I'm going nuts. Krandall Kraus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040312/c8fefec9/attachment.html From tim at fourstonesExpressions.com Sat Mar 13 00:15:37 2004 From: tim at fourstonesExpressions.com (Tim Stone) Date: Sat Mar 13 00:16:11 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Help In-Reply-To: <002501c408b8$e7e2c660$fdfe56d1@ANDY> References: <002501c408b8$e7e2c660$fdfe56d1@ANDY> Message-ID: On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 21:06:11 -0800, Krandall Kraus wrote: > I would like to use your program. A friend sent me a copy but I can't > find a setup file. Neither can I locate your site on the web. I use > Outlook Express/Internet Explorer. Will your program work for me and > how can I download it? How can I make a contribution? For some reason > since the new antispam bill was passed I have been receiving up to 100 > emails a day -- 99% spam. I'm going nuts. Check out spambayes.sourceforge.net... you'll want to install and configure sb_server (the pop3 proxy). -- Tim Stone From jrhenzel at cdtechaz.com Fri Mar 12 23:50:22 2004 From: jrhenzel at cdtechaz.com (JR) Date: Sat Mar 13 00:16:46 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook does not automatically Pop email anymore Message-ID: <002b01c408b6$b6027160$647ba8c0@JR> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: spambayes1.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 37038 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040313/32604acf/spambayes1-0001.obj From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat Mar 13 01:12:14 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat Mar 13 01:14:11 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Important notify about your e-mail account. In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F130482FDA9@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2B19@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Now THIS one is just plain insidious... Bah. This is my second false positive in two weeks, after none for a very long time. Since this list started getting more spam, I started filtering the folder I dump its mail into, but never really did any training on it. All works nicely until something like this, where there aren't enough "Tim Stone" or "SpamBayes" clues to pull it out. (The other fp was a colleague who forwarded an entire quoted Nigerian spam along with "This email is interesting. Anybody needs a lot of money?" at the top. Not exactly a ham phrase for me. Oddly, a lot of people around here are blissfully (almost) spam-free, and so it's all a novelty to them). Oh well, I guess at least it doesn't really hurt me if I do miss these mails :) =Tony Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat Mar 13 01:17:29 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat Mar 13 01:18:14 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Important notify about your e-mail account. In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13057A9D6B@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677AB3@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > The real problem with "on vacation" kinds of things is that > *I* change my mind, and often, about whether they're ham or > spam to me. [..] > I also get plenty of Unsures where I have no real idea > whether they're spam or illiterate ham. I imagine the latter > are familiar to anyone on the receiving end of a public > "admin" or "help" mailing address. It works best for me to > delete those untrained too. I think that for people who have been using any reasonably successful filter for a while, these messages are the most disappointing. I suppose I subconsciously expected that since SpamBayes was 'clever' enough to decided whether most of my mail is junk or not, it would sort out these ones that I can't decide on either. I have the same "true unsure" messages that Tim describes, plus ones that are reports of a spam message caught by a SpamAssassin filter at a domain I look after. For those, I suppose that I should look at them, since maybe they are actually a fp, but then they never are, and I typically just delete them unread anyway, so maybe I do think they are junk. Why can't these computer things make up our minds for us, huh? . =Tony Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat Mar 13 01:47:00 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat Mar 13 01:47:45 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Small Bug - medium-sized bug... In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13057A9BEB@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2B1A@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> [Mark explaining about the review page losing selections on sorting] [Skip] > This is actually by design. The idea of those headings is to > make it easy for you to tell the proxy, "almost all the > messages are of this class, except the exceptions, which I'll > click later." The confusion (and bug) here is my fault. I added in code that means that if you click the *other* headings, the messages are sorted by that column (within the three classifications). The explanatory text at the top probably needs to be clearer. I don't think I even considered people doing a sort *after* clicking the classification buttons. This can probably be fixed; I've added a bug report () and assigned it to me (although if someone else wants to fix it first...) [Mark] > Second problem - I trained spam on a folder in Mozilla. After > training the web interface showed some 390+ spam messages trained > (correct). But I think that restarting the computer may somehow > reset this count. Earlier today I saw that only 50 messages had > been trained as spam. Could SpamBayes somehow 'forget' the > training under certain circumstances? The only thing I can think of here is that SpamBayes is using two separate sets of databases. Does your config file specify a full path, or a relative one? Would it always pick up your config file? (because it's in the BAYESCUSTOMIZE envar, or because it's in the Windows Application Data/SpamBayes/Proxy directory, rather than in the current working directory). What version are you using? =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat Mar 13 01:52:08 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat Mar 13 01:52:49 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] button Enable Filtering In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13057A9BF7@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2B1B@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > In the SpamBayes manager, the button Enable Filtering > become uncheck even if i check it before. > If someone have a solution... I suspect that this means that it can't be enabled for some reason. You have to do a few things first - in particular, you have to set up the folders you want to filter and have unsure/spam sent to, and you have to train at least 5 spam and 5 ham messages. FAQ 3.7 outlines them in more detail: Alternatively, maybe something is going wrong, although I would expect an error dialog to pop up letting you know that. In this case, it would really help to see your log file. The Troubleshooting Guide (accessible from the Help menu in the SpamBayes menu on the toolbar) explains where to find the log file. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat Mar 13 02:11:44 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat Mar 13 02:12:30 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Multiple users on XP Pro Outlook 2003 using binary install of SpamBayes In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13057A9DA3@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2B1C@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I installed the latest binary version of SpamBayes > (.9 I think (feb 2004)) onto an XP Pro machine running > Outlook 2003. > I read the troubleshooting guide on multiple users > across one machine, and ran the command > (regsvr32.exe /i:hkey_local_machine "c:\Program > Files\SpamBayes\bin\outlook_addin.dll") > > I then got this message, (c:\Program Files\SpamBayes > \bin\outlook_addin.dll was loaded, but the > DllInstall entry point was not found. This file can > not be registered.) Hmm. I get this, too (with a CVS built dll). I'm not really sure why, though - Mark's the expert on this. Hopefully he'll see this (hence the cc) and bestow his genius on us all <0.5 wink>. > I checked the log file, it reads, (Registered: > SpamBayes.OutlookAddin Registration complete.) no third line > That reads (Registration (in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE) complete.). > I know the install works fine, because as administrator > it is filtering my email fine. I have a few more user > accounts on this machine that > I would really like to have access to this wonderful tool. In the bin directory there should also be a file called "outlook_addin_register.exe". Try running this with "hkey_local_machine" as a command line argument. This should mimic what regsrv32 is doing, and appears to work here (with limited testing). The full command would be: > "C:\Program Files\SpamBayes\bin\outlook_addin_register.exe" hkey_local_machine > -=mark=- pointed me in the direction of Tony Meyer, if > your there brother, can you help me out? For the record, there are lots of people that read this list and give good answers! (Although I appreciate the implied compliment). Actually, at the moment I'm one of the ones that's really busy with other work, and so don't have that much time to help on the list right now, although hopefully that'll change after this week. Anyway, please be sure to always direct questions to the list (as you did) rather than to any individual, including me, as my rather nagging signature says; it's the best way to get a quick answer. > Where can I send a donation to this project? You can read information about donations here: Note that these don't go directly to SpamBayes, but to the PSF, who (basically) paid for the initial development on SpamBayes, and help out with other projects. The above page has more details. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat Mar 13 02:37:47 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat Mar 13 02:38:31 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Spambayes Digest, Vol 67, Issue 26 - Would like to move database In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305645AE7@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677AB7@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Per the suggested reading material I created a file > > default_configuration.ini > > in the same location > > \Documentation and Settings\\Application Data\SpamBayes > > with the same General entries but this also had no effect. This is strange. This should work, and does for me here. > Copying the latter file to any of the > > Program Files\SpamBayes > > sub-directories also failed to change anything. This bit of the documentation should be more clear now that there are subdirectories. Putting the file in the bin subdirectory should also have worked (but not in the others, or the parent directory). Again, does for me here. > I finally did > > Start->Programs->SpamBayes->SpamBayes Outlook Addin->Properties > > to find out the "application directory" path which turned out to be > > \Documentation and Settings\\Start Menu\Programs\SpamBayes > > When I put the [...] file in that directory things appeared to start > working as desired. Weird (unless SpamBayes was *installed* into that directory, but then there shouldn't have been the previous one, and the first one should still have worked). This *doesn't* work for me, and nor should it, from I what I can tell. What version of Windows are you using? > Thanks everyone! Well, glad you managed to get it working, anyway, even if I can't understand *why* it works! =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat Mar 13 02:43:41 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat Mar 13 02:44:23 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] How do I remove SpamBayes In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13057A9D93@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2B1F@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I am still using Spambayes but am getting frustrated in that > it keeps sending messages from people who are listed in my > address book into the suspected junkmail or the junkmail box. > > Am I doing something wrong? First off, the fact that they are in the address book does not mean anything at all to SpamBayes (these days, it's fairly common to get spam purporting to be from someone you know, or, thanks to compromised computers, even actually from someone you know). Filtering based on address books is known as "whitelisting", and there are no plans to add it to SpamBayes, although it would be accepted as an optional addition to the plug-in if someone else contributes the code. FAQ 6.6 explains more, including a method by which you can get Outlook to whitelist for you. In any case, with appropriate training, SpamBayes should fairly easily learn that messages from these people are not spam. Have you trained on any? How many messages have you trained on in total (ham and spam totals would be good)? Do you have roughly the same amount of ham and spam trained? An example "show clues" from a message that gets incorrectly classified would greatly help here, and would also answer all of the above questions. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat Mar 13 02:48:55 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat Mar 13 02:49:36 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spanbayes program In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305645A74@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2B20@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I recently downloaded your spambayes anti spam program and > after I downloaded it and attempted to use it the following > error message appeared on my screen. What version did you download? spambayes-1.0a9.exe, or an older version? > THERE WAS AN ERROR INITIALIZING THE SPAM PLUG IN. > SPAM FILTERING HAS BEEN DISABLED. PLEASE RE- CONFIGURE AND > RE-ENABLE THIS PLUG IN. ERROR DETAILS: COOULD NOT WATCH THE > SPECIFIED FOLDERS. The first thing you saw when opening Outlook after installing the plug-in should have been a configuration wizard. Did you go through that and set up the appropriate folders? If not, you need to click on the SpamBayes button on the SpamBayes toolbar, select SpamBayes Manager, click the Filtering tab, and set up the folders that you want to filter (like your Inbox), and where Suspected Spam and Spam should be moved to. You'll then have to click the "Enable SpamBayes" button on the General tab (assuming you have trained at least 5 ham and 5 spam first). If you have all of this set up, then maybe SpamBayes is having trouble with the folders you selected. Are they just regular folders in a pst file, or on an Exchange server, or Hotmail, or IMAP? If you don't know, then it's most likely that they're just regular pst file ones. Finally, if something is going wrong (as opposed to things just not being set up) then your log file should have the information that we need to figure out what the problem is. If you click on the SpamBayes button on the SpamBayes toolbar, then Help, then Troubleshooting Guide, a page will open up that includes information about how to find the log file. Attaching that to a message to the list would greatly help us help you. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat Mar 13 02:53:20 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat Mar 13 02:54:02 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Help In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13054AF7F7@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677ABA@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I am running the latest version of SpamBayes with > Outlook 2002. I've noticed there is a long lag time from > when I click on and highlight a message in my inbox and > the time until it opens in the preview pane. There is a very > slow response when I click the next message arrow button and > Outlook takes longer to load as well. SpamBayes will increase the time that Outlook takes to load (although it shouldn't be all that much longer), but shouldn't effect the response time once the program is running (apart from when it's actually doing something, like if you click "Delete as Spam", or if incoming mail is being filtered). If you disable SpamBayes, does this go away? If not, if you uninstall SpamBayes (your configuration and training data is not uninstalled, so will automatically still be there when you reinstall), does it go away then? How many ham and spam messages have you trained on? I suppose one cause could be that your database is really big, so Outlook is taking a lot of memory, and you're really short on memory. Hard to tell without more information. What version of Windows are you using? If it's NT/2k/XP, take a look at the Task Manager (via ctrl-alt-delete) and see what numbers are next to Outlook.exe in the CPU and Memory columns (these are the XP names, I can't recall what the NT/2k ones are). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat Mar 13 02:57:16 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat Mar 13 02:57:58 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] bug 904526, large number of messages have no spam score In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13057A9D04@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677ABB@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I read the trouble shooting guide and found > the referenced bug in sourceforge. I am unfamiliar with > sourceforge and I don't see how to add my logfile to an > already existing bug. You should be able to just add a comment in the comment box, click on the Browse button at the end, click on the checkbox next to that, add a description, click Submit, and you're done. You do need to be logged into sourceforge (which requires a free account) to submit any bugs or to change existing ones. > When reading the log file the following line: > Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer > Makes me wonder if "missed spam" that is moved by an > outlook rule or filter will not be processed. What happens is that SpamBayes looks in the folders you have said you want it to filter when Outlook starts up. If there are messages there that haven't been classified, then it classifies them then. If they have already been moved out of the filtered folders into a folder that SpamBayes doesn't know about, then they won't be seen at all (Outlook doesn't have the ability to tell SpamBayes that "x messages arrived while you were gone, and I moved them here"). Does this answer your question? I'm not sure I really understood what you were getting at. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat Mar 13 02:59:17 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat Mar 13 03:00:02 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13057A9B44@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677ABC@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > After installation spambayes I started Outlook but nothing happens? > > Logfile > > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "addin.py", line 1546, in ? > File "win32com\server\register.pyc", line 477, in UseCommandLine > File "win32com\server\register.pyc", line 407, in RegisterClasses > File "win32com\server\register.pyc", line 261, in RegisterServer > File "win32com\server\register.pyc", line 85, in _cat_registrar > pywintypes.com_error: (-2147221164, 'Class not registered', > None, None) > > I am using outlook 2000 SR1 in windows NT What version of SpamBayes did you install? Was it from source, or via the installer? Did everything appear to go correctly with the install? (i.e. there were no error messages during that time). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat Mar 13 03:03:34 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat Mar 13 03:04:18 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] recover from spam button gone In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F130564583C@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2B21@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > My recover from spam button disappeared. How do I get it > back? I have Windows XP and have version 1.63. Thanks! Version 1.63 of what? Presumably not SpamBayes, since the latest is 0.9 (you can see the version number in the Manager dialog via the SpamBayes menu on the toolbar). In any case: the most common reason is that there isn't enough room, and so Outlook has hidden it for you. Is there a little double right arrow with a down arrow next to it at the end of the toolbar? If so, click that and the button should be there. Alternatively, are your possible spam/spam folders still correctly set up? The "Recover from spam" button only appears in those two folders, so if either isn't configured correctly, it won't appear. Note that if mail's being filtered into both of them, then they are obviously still set up right. Are you definitely looking for the button in the right folder? As above, it only appears in two folders. Apologies if some of these are obvious and you've already considered them - it's hard to know what people have already tried. If none of these work, you can try resetting the toolbar - the instructions are in the Troubleshooting Guide. It also explains where to find your log file, which might have more details about any problem. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat Mar 13 03:07:58 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat Mar 13 03:08:46 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Groupwise and Spambayes In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13056454D1@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677ABE@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Is there a FAQ or WIKI on running Spambayes at the server > level in a Groupwise installation? Did I miss it? I'm > wondering if its possible and if so, how one goes about it. The only information we have about using SpamBayes server side is on the website at . These are notes from people who have done it with qmail and postfix. Maybe there's something there that would be of use? I don't really know anything at all about Groupwise, so can't offer anything specific. There might also be some information in the archives for this group (google for "site:mail.python.org spambayes server side"), but I think the only detailed information is there on the website. Maybe the SpamBayes wiki has information? . I don't recall seeing any, but I haven't looked there for a while, and my memory could certainly be better ;) Of course, if you *do* set something up, if you are willing to do a wee write up about what you did, any problems you had, and how you solved them, we would very happily accept them to add to the webpage to help future users... =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat Mar 13 03:10:45 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat Mar 13 03:11:26 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Toolbar help In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13054AF755@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677ABF@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I'm using Windows 2000 Pro with Outlook 2000 and Spambayes > v0.9. For some reason, when I'm in my Junk Suspects Folder, > the toolbar shows a Delete as Spam option but does NOT show a > Recover from Spam option. This is a change from the prior > version which I also used. > > I did have to do a whole new install of Win2000, Outlook and > Spambayes recently but other than having to have Spambayes > relearn all my junk mail preferences, the toolbar shouldn't > be acting this way, should it? This is becoming quite a common question; I'm beginning to wonder if there's a bug that the developers haven't come across. Or maybe not. In any case, have you tried the obvious things? (Apologies if you have). * The most common reason is that there isn't enough room, and so Outlook has hidden it for you. Is there a little double right arrow with a down arrow next to it at the end of the toolbar? If so, click that and the button should be there. * Alternatively, are your possible spam/spam folders still correctly set up? The "Recover from spam" button only appears in those two folders, so if either isn't configured correctly, it won't appear. Note that if mail's being filtered into both of them, then they are obviously still set up right. * Are you definitely looking for the button in the right folder? As above, it only appears in two folders. (The easiest explanation would be that when you reinstalled SpamBayes the Junk Suspects folder changed, which would explain it). You said that you read the troubleshooting guide - did you try resetting the toolbar, as it outlines? =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat Mar 13 03:14:33 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat Mar 13 03:15:25 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problems getting Spam Bayes to work. In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13054AFE65@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677AC0@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > It was working well until yesterday, but then I added > an additional email account to be screened for spam. > It worked fine at first than this morning when I turned > on Machine and opened outlook I get a message saying > SpamBayes is unable to initialize, can't find selected > inbox to scan. So I go into the Spam Bayes Manager and > look at the filters tab and I can't see any folders at all. > Not even the Personal folders, so I can't select the Email > I want to have the program scan. I'm not sure I understand exactly what you mean here. Do you mean that if you click the Browse button next to the (maybe empty) list of folders it opens up an empty dialog for you to choose the folders from? Or that there are some entries in the dialog, but not all folders are there? Or that you didn't click on the Browse button, and it's just the list of folders that's empty? > I can though see the > Junk mail, and Junk suspects is the spam tabs. I have > tried uninstalling and re-installing, I have tried the newest > version, and still I cannot get it to work. I am running > Outlook 2000 with an exchange server. Could you please send us your log file? The Help->Troubleshooting Guide explains where to find it. It should contain detailed information that will help us figure out what is going wrong. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat Mar 13 03:18:36 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat Mar 13 03:19:28 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Do you have a Macintosh Product In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305645041@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677AC1@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I am using Spambayes on my pc with outlook. Is there a > spambayes product for Mac OS9 and OSX with Outlook Express? Yes. What you need to do is: 1. Install Python. . (If you have OS X 10.3, you already have this. Earlier OS X versions might, too; I don't know). 2. Download the source archive. . You want the file called spambayes-1.0a9.tar.gz. 3. Unpack the archive, with whatever tool you would normally use (Stuffit Expander would probably manage it). 4. Read the README.txt file, which gives step by step instructions for doing the install. The only other note is that to use SpamBayes with Outlook Express you have to enable the "Notate To" or "Notate Subject" options (via the configuration page) so that either the recipient list or the subject line gets a tag when a message is spam. This is because Outlook Express can't filter on arbitrary headers (it's free; Microsoft have no incentive to make it a good mailer - that's the aim of Outlook). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat Mar 13 03:22:24 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat Mar 13 03:23:07 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Upgrade to 0.9 failure In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13054AFE3F@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677AC2@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I have just upgraded to Spambayes 0.9 and get an error when I start > Outlook. [...] > The error is: > > OUTLOOK.EXE - Entry point not found > > The procedure entry point > ?PyCom_SetAndLogCOMErrorFromPyException@@YAJPBDABU_GUID@@@Z > could not be > located in the dynamic link library pythoncom23.dll This isn't something I've seen before. I've been hoping that Mark would answer this one, but he might have missed it. Is this 0.9 source or binary? Have you tried re-downloading it just in case there is some weird problem with the file you downloaded (seems unlikely, but...)? Otherwise all I can suggest is going back to 0.8 (let me know if you don't have the installer and I can explain how to get to it, even though it's hidden on the download page), and opening a bug report via sourceforge , which means that Mark or someone else with the appropriate expertise will look at it sooner or later. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat Mar 13 03:26:00 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat Mar 13 03:26:48 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] possible bug In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305644EEF@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677AC3@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I updates to the latest Outlook addin and have a > problem now that I didn't have with the previous version. > When I connect to the Exchange server, Outlook appears to > lock up for some time. I get multiple dialog boxes that > say that outlook is requesting data from the exchange > server. After about 2 minutes, my inbox finally appears, > but none of the messages are scored. If I tell Spambayes > to filter my inbox, it will then work. The attached log > file indicates my folders were not available. > > I would guess it is some kind of communication timeout. > My Outlook configuration is all the same as it was before > I upgraded Spambayes, and it worked fine then. The only thing I can think of that changed with 0.9 that could cause this is that background filtering is now on by default, when it used to be off. Maybe that's changed the regularity of the Exchange communication, or something? Anyway, if you don't know whether you previously had background filtering on or off, then it'll have been off. If it was previously off, try turning it off again (Advanced tab of the Manager dialog) and see if that makes a difference. Otherwise, I'm stumped :( =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat Mar 13 03:34:38 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat Mar 13 03:35:25 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Errors when setting up IMAP folders to filter andtrainusing the web interface In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305645046@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677AC4@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Truly, I raised the problem because I couldn't > find another example of it and I want to help you all resolve > any problems to make spambayes better. A very worthwhile aim! Hopefully after this week I won't be quite as busy and will manage to try and fix & close some of the outstanding bugs so that we can move on towards 1.0b1 (the poor release schedule keeps slipping and slipping). > With that said, I > suspect this might be a problem with the way my company's > imap server is configured, or something I am doing > incorrectly. So I am trying to investigate possible mistakes > on my end and sending messages to you all. Thanks, all help much appreciated. Certainly IMAP is a complex beast and the differences between the way different servers do things has been the script's biggest problem. > It WAS a file named "/". I actually accidentally saved a > file in 'vi' with that filename. I removed a bunch of junk > from my /trout/home/josh/ folder now, including that file. That would explain why it was a literal, when the others weren't. > > [...] > > > Invalid response to select /trout/home/josh/mail/Newspammail: [...] > > It comes from imaplib (the Python standard module). If you do: > > > > python > > >>> import imaplib > > >>> i = imaplib.IMAP4("your.server.name") > > >>> i.login("username", "password") > > >>> i.select("/trout/home/josh/mail/Newspammail") [Tries this, doesn't work] > It doesn't appear any folder exists in my IMAP server? It is > odd, I guess the fact that I could "subscribe" to > 'Newspammail' in Evolution gave me the idea that it was/is an > Imap Folder. I am apparently wrong. Not necessarily. There's probably something wrong with the instructions I gave; maybe the folder delimiter isn't '/', or there needs to be a different root (/mail/Newspammail or something). In any case, now that the web interface is working, hopefully this should not be a problem (if curious, you could see what a folder selected looks like in your config file; presumably it'll be different to the above). > HA! something has changed on my end, probably the imap > server? I'm not sure I am of much help now, because this > time the web configuration listed all the folders in my home > directory. Wait, I bet cleaning the directory > /trout/home/josh/ of junk and the "/" file name rectified the > web configuration problems in my previous mail. [...] > I will update this thread to see if that "/" file might have > been the whole problem. I suspect it was some file in there, very possibly that one (since I don't think you could actually create a folder/file on an IMAP server (properly) that was called the same thing as the folder delimiter). > Thanks for the help! No worries; thanks for the patience! =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From noreply at python.org Sat Mar 13 05:33:36 2004 From: noreply at python.org (noreply@python.org) Date: Sat Mar 13 05:33:38 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] E-mail account security warning. Message-ID: Dear user of "Python.org" mailing system, Our antivirus software has detected a large ammount of viruses outgoing from your email account, you may use our free anti-virus tool to clean up your computer software. Please, read the attach for further details. For security reasons attached file is password protected. The password is "88511". Kind regards, The Python.org team http://www.python.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Information.zip Type: application/octet-stream Size: 12420 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040313/2712a8db/Information.obj From jerrymax at uti.com Sat Mar 13 14:02:36 2004 From: jerrymax at uti.com (Jerrold F. Maxwell) Date: Sat Mar 13 14:12:59 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Suggested improvement - Navagation arrows Message-ID: <40535ACC.5010107@uti.com> I suggest you put navigation arrows on the SpamBayes toolbar to navigate between the inbox, junk e-mail, junk suspects and OK email folders. This would make maintaining the lists much easier. From jerrymax at uti.com Sat Mar 13 14:38:28 2004 From: jerrymax at uti.com (Jerrold F. Maxwell) Date: Sat Mar 13 14:43:30 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Acolade and asking help on how to set up folders. Message-ID: <40536334.2030105@uti.com> This program is great. I've had bad experiences with several other spam handlers. My last spam program required me to do the processing from a "SpamFree" folder. Is SpamBayes designed to set up only 2 folders (Junk E-Mail and Junk Suspects) and process spamfree mail from the inbox? From jbyrd at well.com Sat Mar 13 14:48:59 2004 From: jbyrd at well.com (John Byrd) Date: Sat Mar 13 14:49:30 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] More appreciation Message-ID: <000301c40934$3b197510$6501a8c0@courtesan> Guys, I've said this before, but I just have to say it again -- the SpamBayes Outlook plugin, and the underlying engine, absolutely rule! I'm getting SO much less spam as a result of your tools! I'm happy to support your work with a donation! Far better than any commercial spam software! Wooo! Sincerely, John Byrd www.johnbyrd.com From randydemars at bretting.com Sat Mar 13 15:05:34 2004 From: randydemars at bretting.com (Randy DeMars) Date: Sat Mar 13 15:08:46 2004 Subject: FW: [Spambayes] possible bug Message-ID: Sorry - didn't read the paragraph until after I replied... -----Original Message----- From: Randy DeMars Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 1:59 PM To: 'Tony Meyer' Subject: RE: [Spambayes] possible bug Tony: No luck. I turned off the background filtering option and the problem still exists. I get the Outlook requester saying it is requesting data from the Exchange server when I start outlook, and also as I switch from tab to tab on the Manager dialog box. If I cancel this, I get a Spambayes message reporting I have a configuration error telling me that my unsure folder is invalid. When I run the wizard to try to fix it, I can browse, but it only sees my Outlook data file (the one that resides on my hard drive) but none of my server-based folders (inbox, etc) It definitely seems like a communication issue somewhere. I don't know what could be different about my configuration, except that we use Exchange 5.5, which is old and temperamental. If these further hints don't tell you anything, then don't worry about it. I will bump down to the old version. This one worked fine for me. Thanks Randy DeMars -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 2:26 AM To: 'Randy DeMars'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] possible bug > I updates to the latest Outlook addin and have a > problem now that I didn't have with the previous version. > When I connect to the Exchange server, Outlook appears to > lock up for some time. I get multiple dialog boxes that > say that outlook is requesting data from the exchange > server. After about 2 minutes, my inbox finally appears, > but none of the messages are scored. If I tell Spambayes > to filter my inbox, it will then work. The attached log > file indicates my folders were not available. > > I would guess it is some kind of communication timeout. > My Outlook configuration is all the same as it was before > I upgraded Spambayes, and it worked fine then. The only thing I can think of that changed with 0.9 that could cause this is that background filtering is now on by default, when it used to be off. Maybe that's changed the regularity of the Exchange communication, or something? Anyway, if you don't know whether you previously had background filtering on or off, then it'll have been off. If it was previously off, try turning it off again (Advanced tab of the Manager dialog) and see if that makes a difference. Otherwise, I'm stumped :( =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From soportems at pla.net.py Sat Mar 13 18:41:38 2004 From: soportems at pla.net.py (soportems@pla.net.py) Date: Sat Mar 13 18:41:31 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] ^_^ meay-meay! Message-ID: I don't bite, weah! archive password: 66711 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: MoreInfo.zip Type: application/octet-stream Size: 21924 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040313/4c3cfcff/MoreInfo-0001.obj From dsiiud48 at rock.com Sat Mar 13 13:36:51 2004 From: dsiiud48 at rock.com (Cecil Bray) Date: Sat Mar 13 20:16:40 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] treat mental disorders with zyprexa--powerfull cops Message-ID: If you have had a physical examination by your family physician within the last 6 months and were deemed healthy, you do not necessarily require another physical examination in order to obtain the medications we offer. Hot Drug Site specializes in online medical consultations. Patients are required to complete and submit a medical questionnaire form. In creating this unique questionnaire, we specifically request answers to all pertinent underlying medical conditions and problems that would prohibit a physician from prescribing these medications. These problems are discoverable through a thorough review of the patient's medical history. There is no reason to suggest that an in-person review of this history is any more effective than an online consultation in helping to diagnose the above mentioned problems. this way http://www.mypharmameds.biz/3/index.html never again http://www.mypharmameds.biz/r/r.htm _______________________________________wtzxtivup lqkkmep hodvb pjss From stormshaman at comcast.net Sun Mar 14 00:49:02 2004 From: stormshaman at comcast.net (Ian Dalton) Date: Sun Mar 14 00:49:05 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes compared to POPFile Message-ID: <4053F24E.2070605@comcast.net> Is SpamBayes better than POPFile? If so, what makes it so? I hear why yours is better than others based on Paul Graham's work, but POPFile claims not to be based on that. From tim.one at comcast.net Sun Mar 14 01:35:23 2004 From: tim.one at comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Sun Mar 14 01:35:27 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes compared to POPFile In-Reply-To: <4053F24E.2070605@comcast.net> Message-ID: [Ian Dalton] > Is SpamBayes better than POPFile? They're both free -- try them and see which works better for you. > If so, what makes it so? I hear why yours is better than others > based on Paul Graham's work, but POPFile claims not to be based > on that. POPFile is a classical N-way "naive Bayesian classifier", and the detailed theory for doing that is more than 40 years old. Paul Graham didn't invent it, but did popularize (a simplified version of) it for spam identification. SpamBayes is a 2-way classifier (not N-way), with a third "Unsure" category for messages it's not confident about, and is Bayesian in a different way than either POPFile or what Paul Graham wrote about. All the details of what SpamBayes does were driven by statistical testing, performed by multiple people on multiple real-life email mixes. Amazingly enough, no detail of Graham's original scheme (which we started with) survived that process. In the end, this project owes much more to Gary Robinson's ideas. It's rare that of two statistical inference algorithms, one always beats the other. That's why testing on multiple email mixes is important, and also why-- if you care about getting the best possible results --you have to try the available alternatives in real life, on your own input. Note that if you want N-way classification, spamabyes isn't a contender. From fie at myrealbox.com Sun Mar 14 07:08:54 2004 From: fie at myrealbox.com (FIE) Date: Sun Mar 14 07:09:07 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] asdf skills and whatnot Message-ID: <000201c409bd$20bf3f90$555b75cc@user7euaxkd35t> a list of my skills at http://cagedgoat.com I'd be willing to contribute -casey -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040314/47483fa1/attachment.html From spambayes at djl.freeuk.com Sun Mar 14 09:12:44 2004 From: spambayes at djl.freeuk.com (David Leftley) Date: Sun Mar 14 09:12:48 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes compared to POPFile In-Reply-To: <4053F24E.2070605@comcast.net> References: <4053F24E.2070605@comcast.net> Message-ID: <7ll85013d4k40dm43smdjt89u7q2nnuh9l@4ax.com> On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 21:49:02 -0800, Ian Dalton wrote: >Is SpamBayes better than POPFile? If so, what makes it so? I hear why >yours is better than others based on Paul Graham's work, but POPFile >claims not to be based on that. Tim has already replied with a good description of the theoretical and technical differences between the two, but I thought I would throw in a few of my own experiences having tried them both. I was tempted by POPFile's ability to classify messages into multiple categories rather than just distinguishing between ham and spam, so I have been trying it out on my PC at home over the last month or so. The first thing I noticed was that as far as I can tell there is no way to bulk train POPFile on an initial set of training data. Instead you set up various "buckets" and then teach it the classifications for messages as they come in. Although POPFile (like SpamBayes) learns very quickly, this means it is several days (depending on the volume of e-mail you receive) before it achieves a high standard of accuracy. Once trained, POPFile seems to do a pretty good job. I haven't actually gathered any statistics to tell me which of the two is the most accurate but my feeling is that SpamBayes just edges it. More importantly for me, POPFile produced a number of false positives (ham wrongly put into the spam category) which I find unacceptable - since I got SpamBayes I have got used to skimming over my Spam folder much more quickly and less often, as I can rely on there being nothing important in there. I think it's probably the concept of an "unsure" category in SpamBayes that gives it the edge here. So for me, SpamBayes gets my vote because false positives are vanishingly rare. But if that is outweighed in your opinion by the need for multiple categories you might find POPFile worth a try. David. From lamontia at cox.net Sun Mar 14 11:07:38 2004 From: lamontia at cox.net (LaMontia) Date: Sun Mar 14 11:07:44 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Message-ID: <002501c409de$793e6b20$9f8f6044@VALUEDB8142DE8> Oct 23 2003, 15:50:06) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] of Python; my operating system is Windows 5.1.2600.2 (Service Pack 1). I have trained 0 ham and 0 spam. The problem I am having is How do I define a proxy an incoming spanbayes proxy in outlook express. I have configured spam bayes to look at my incoming pop server, but, how and whaer do I define the spam bayes proxy to pickup the evaluated mail and bring into my inbox? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040314/a75232db/attachment.html From skip at pobox.com Sun Mar 14 11:17:24 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Sun Mar 14 11:17:42 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes compared to POPFile In-Reply-To: <7ll85013d4k40dm43smdjt89u7q2nnuh9l@4ax.com> References: <4053F24E.2070605@comcast.net> <7ll85013d4k40dm43smdjt89u7q2nnuh9l@4ax.com> Message-ID: <16468.34196.870652.379757@montanaro.dyndns.org> David> Once trained, POPFile seems to do a pretty good job. I haven't David> actually gathered any statistics to tell me which of the two is David> the most accurate but my feeling is that SpamBayes just edges David> it. More importantly for me, POPFile produced a number of false David> positives (ham wrongly put into the spam category) which I find David> unacceptable - since I got SpamBayes I have got used to skimming David> over my Spam folder much more quickly and less often, as I can David> rely on there being nothing important in there. I think it's David> probably the concept of an "unsure" category in SpamBayes that David> gives it the edge here. Perhaps a good way to run would be to use SB to distiguish ham from spam (and unsure), then only feed your putative ham into POPFile. Skip From customerservice at simplexity.com Sun Mar 14 19:36:23 2004 From: customerservice at simplexity.com (customerservice@simplexity.com) Date: Sun Mar 14 21:37:17 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] unknown Message-ID: here is the document. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From sklenar at redsuspenders.com Sun Mar 14 23:57:29 2004 From: sklenar at redsuspenders.com (Stephen Sklenar) Date: Mon Mar 15 00:00:02 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] cannot initialize Message-ID: <000601c40a4a$0542d460$7bbc03d0@wcnywdp.co.wayne.ny.us> I am (or was) using version .81 and loved it, I made a mistake of trying to update it and uninstalled the older version before trying to install the newer version. I cannot now get the new one to install and cannot fully uninstall the older. I removed the user file as advised and have closed everything down that I can find. I am still getting an error stating "Failed to initialize (0xc0000005)". The log file ends. "Addin terminating: 2 COM client and 2 COM servers exist."But I cannot find anything running. I am using 2000 sp4 From anders.eriksson at morateknikutveckling.se Mon Mar 15 03:27:53 2004 From: anders.eriksson at morateknikutveckling.se (Anders Eriksson) Date: Mon Mar 15 03:28:24 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Upgrade to 0.9 failure In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677AC2@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: Hello Tony, and the list! > > I have just upgraded to Spambayes 0.9 and get an error when I start > > Outlook. > [...] > > The error is: > > > > OUTLOOK.EXE - Entry point not found > > > > The procedure entry point > > ?PyCom_SetAndLogCOMErrorFromPyException@@YAJPBDABU_GUID@@@Z > > could not be > > located in the dynamic link library pythoncom23.dll > > Is this 0.9 source or binary? Have you tried re-downloading it > just in case > there is some weird problem with the file you downloaded (seems unlikely, > but...)? > It's the binary version I have just found the error! I had ActivePython-2.3.2-232 installed and somehow it resulted in this error. Once I uninstalled ActivePython, SpamBayes 0.9 work perfectly!! I guess that SpamBayes is using a newer pythoncom32.dll than ActivePython 2.3.2-232 did. and that SpamBayes somehow found that dll before the one distributed with SpamBayes. Maybe this should be documented or changed so that SpamBayes allways uses it's distributed dll's Thank you for responding to my question and a BIIIIIG thank you to all that develop SpamBayes! The time for handling Spam has reduced from 1 hour a day to about 30 seconds! // Anders From jonw at gdpspace.com Mon Mar 15 08:01:22 2004 From: jonw at gdpspace.com (Jon Weitzman) Date: Mon Mar 15 08:05:17 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Will spambayes run on an NT system?? Message-ID: <003901c40a8d$9e0ac930$36dbeace@deltainfo.com> Hello, Will spambayes run on an NT system?? I'm using OUTLOOK 2000 SR-1 It seemed to install OK, but the toolbar never showed up in OUTLOOK. THX, Jon Weitzman From JTRUSZKOWSKI at MDWCG.COM Mon Mar 15 08:16:52 2004 From: JTRUSZKOWSKI at MDWCG.COM (JOSEPH TRUSZKOWSKI) Date: Mon Mar 15 08:17:48 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Question Message-ID: I'm not sure if you are the correct department to ask this type of question but if your not, could you please forward it to someone who can answer my question. Thanx! I manage an e-mail server for a large law firm in center city Philadelphia. We use Novell GroupWise 6.0 as our e-mail client. I was wondering if there was any way that I can impliment spambayes to work with my server and stop the SPAM. Thanx so much. : ) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If you use POP3, there's a still slightly experimental binary installer here: http://starship.python.net/crew/mhammond/spambayes/ which will allow you to easily install (and configure?) the Spambayes POP3 proxy (named sb_server.py). I'm not clear on the steps necessary to use IMAP, but basically you would install download and install Python and Spambayes then run the sb_imapfilter.py application to start proxying IMAP sessions. In either case, you need to change your GroupWise settings to refer to the Spambayes proxy server and point the proxy server at your real POP3 or IMAP server. Skip From qub at qub.com Mon Mar 15 09:40:22 2004 From: qub at qub.com (Mikhail Yakoubov) Date: Mon Mar 15 09:40:22 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Question References: <16469.46569.121831.815973@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <4055C056.19F73E4F@qub.com> Skip Montanaro wrote: > I'm not clear on the steps necessary to use IMAP, but basically you would > install download and install Python and Spambayes then run the > sb_imapfilter.py application to start proxying IMAP sessions. > > In either case, you need to change your GroupWise settings to refer to the > Spambayes proxy server and point the proxy server at your real POP3 or IMAP > server. AFAIK, sb_imapfilter is not a proxy, and can't (and probably shouldn't) be used as proxy. It works in parallel with a mail client (thanks to IMAP supporting this). Regards, Mike Yakoubov. From theo at rmonline.com Mon Mar 15 12:00:12 2004 From: theo at rmonline.com (Theo De Regibus) Date: Mon Mar 15 12:22:41 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Hi Message-ID: Hi I just thought I would comment on how excellent your program is. Perhaps this functionality already exists but it would also be good, once spam has been identified, to be able to bounce the spam back to the sender to give the impression that the recipient does not exist, this sometimes has the effect of removing the recipients email from the spammers database. Thanks Theo From tim at fourstonesExpressions.com Mon Mar 15 16:28:07 2004 From: tim at fourstonesExpressions.com (Tim Stone) Date: Mon Mar 15 16:28:36 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Hi In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 17:00:12 -0000, Theo De Regibus wrote: > Hi > > I just thought I would comment on how excellent your program is. > > Perhaps this functionality already exists but it would also be good, once > spam has been identified, to be able to bounce the spam back to the > sender > to give the impression that the recipient does not exist, this sometimes > has > the effect of removing the recipients email from the spammers database. This has been discussed at great length in our group, and we have decided to not implement this. Grab the archives, search on "bounce" and you'll have plenty of reading material as to why. -- Tim Stone From noreply at python.org Mon Mar 15 17:14:51 2004 From: noreply at python.org (noreply@python.org) Date: Mon Mar 15 17:14:52 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] E-mail account disabling warning. Message-ID: Dear user of Python.org gateway e-mail server, We warn you about some attacks on your e-mail account. Your computer may contain viruses, in order to keep your computer and e-mail account safe, please, follow the instructions. Further details can be obtained from attached file. In order to read the attach you have to use the following password: 66772. Sincerely, The Python.org team http://www.python.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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All voluntary, of course, but it would really help others who want to do this in the future. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 15 17:24:41 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Mar 15 17:25:14 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Will spambayes run on an NT system?? In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13057AA28A@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677AD2@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Will spambayes run on an NT system?? I'm using OUTLOOK 2000 SR-1 Yes, you should have no problems there. > It seemed to install OK, but the toolbar never showed up in OUTLOOK. Check if it has been disabled by Outlook for some reason (Help->About Microsoft Outlook->Disabled Items). If not, then there should be a log file, even if it has never loaded and was just installed, which might give us some more clues. Which version did you install? =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 15 17:27:48 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Mar 15 17:28:38 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Upgrade to 0.9 failure In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13057AA282@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677AD3@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > > I have just upgraded to Spambayes 0.9 and get an error > > when I start Outlook. > [...] > > The error is: > > > > OUTLOOK.EXE - Entry point not found > > > > The procedure entry point > > ?PyCom_SetAndLogCOMErrorFromPyException@@YAJPBDABU_GUID@@@Z > > could not be > > located in the dynamic link library pythoncom23.dll [...] > I have just found the error! > > I had ActivePython-2.3.2-232 installed and somehow it > resulted in this error. Once I uninstalled ActivePython, > SpamBayes 0.9 work perfectly!! > > I guess that SpamBayes is using a newer pythoncom32.dll than > ActivePython 2.3.2-232 did. and that SpamBayes somehow found > that dll before the one distributed with SpamBayes. > > Maybe this should be documented or changed so that SpamBayes > allways uses it's distributed dll's Thanks heaps for letting us know how you solved it. This does sound like a perfectly plausible cause for the problem (and maybe a couple of the other new install problems?), although Mark would have a better idea than me. Mark: does this sound right to you? Could it be the cause of the other 0.9 install problems? Any idea how to fix it? =Tony Meyer From sng2004x at netscape.net Mon Mar 15 21:49:52 2004 From: sng2004x at netscape.net (Stephen Ng) Date: Mon Mar 15 21:50:24 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] error messages Message-ID: <40566B50.2040902@netscape.net> Hi! I installed v1.0a9 on my Redhat 9. Everything seems to work correctly except for the following error messages - Unhandled exception in thread: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/spambayes/Corpus.py", line 248, in removeExpiredMessages self.removeMessage(msg) File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/spambayes/FileCorpus.py", line 151, in removeMessage Corpus.Corpus.removeMessage(self, message) File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/spambayes/Corpus.py", line 146, in removeMessage obs.onRemoveMessage(message) File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/spambayes/storage.py", line 596, in onRemoveMessage self.untrain(message) File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/spambayes/storage.py", line 604, in untrain self.bayes.unlearn(message.tokenize(), self.is_spam) File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/spambayes/message.py", line 265, in tokenize return self.asTokens() File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/spambayes/message.py", line 262, in asTokens return tokenize(self.as_string()) File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/spambayes/FileCorpus.py", line 196, in as_string self.load() # ensure that the substance is loaded File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/spambayes/FileCorpus.py", line 221, in load fp = gzip.open(pn, 'rb') File "/usr/lib/python2.2/gzip.py", line 30, in open return GzipFile(filename, mode, compresslevel) File "/usr/lib/python2.2/gzip.py", line 43, in __init__ fileobj = self.myfileobj = __builtin__.open(filename, mode or 'rb') IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/home/sng/pop3proxy-spam-cache/1078759883' The filename in spam-cache is different everytime. Please help. Thanks and regards, Stephen Ng From ta-meyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 16 00:28:05 2004 From: ta-meyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 16 00:29:30 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Open Relay Problem Fixed Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677AD9@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> I've checked in code that should fix the potential open-relay problem with smtp proxy. There are three parts to the fix: 1. The documentation is improved so that it's more clear that you don't have to enter in smtp server details if you don't plan on using it for training. 2. The "listening ports" option is now (like pop3proxy already was) able to accept and properly process values in the form server:port (this was a 6 character change; I think it was an oversight that it wasn't done before). This means that if you set it to (eg) localhost:25 only localhost connections will be allowed. The default is still empty, because the number of entries in this option has to be the same as the number in the server, and we don't know what that will be. 3. There are two new allow_remote_connections options, in the pop3proxy and smtpproxy sections (these can be found on the Advanced Configuration page for sb_server). These work just like the web interface one, in that you can set it to allow connections from anywhere, only localhost, or a set of IPs. This defaults to localhost connections only. To sum up, by default connections to the POP3 proxy and the SMTP proxy are only allowed from localhost. These can be expanded if desired, but you have to know what you're doing to do it, at least to a certain extent, so it's unlikely that it would accidentally happen. I've tested this as much as I can, using connections to & from my machine, and from the one next to me to mine. I don't control the firewall I'm behind, so I can't test further than that. If someone else has the time, it would be great to have someone else test it and confirm that this is correct. We're hoping for a release this week, and there doesn't appear to be much in the way (after this), so hopefully this will be there for the public very soon. You need sb_server v1.21, Options.py v1.105, ProxyUI.py v1.45, and smtpproxy v1.61. =Tony Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 16 00:41:10 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 16 00:41:17 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] error messages In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13057AA524@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677ADA@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I installed v1.0a9 on my Redhat 9. Everything seems to work correctly > except for the following error messages - [...] > IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: > '/home/sng/pop3proxy-spam-cache/1078759883' > > The filename in spam-cache is different everytime. How often do these arise? The majority of the time that I've seen this message, it has been because some other program has moved out the cache files from underneath spambayes (typically virus protection). Being in the spam cache supports that, since virus messages typically end up there. Does it keep going after the traceback? IIRC, it's meant to, so that it records the problem, but keeps going since this does happen. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 16 00:44:32 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 16 00:44:39 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Configuring Outlook Express In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13057AA11D@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677ADB@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > How do I define a proxy an incoming spanbayes proxy > in outlook express. I have configured spam bayes to >> look at my incoming pop server, but, how and whaer do > I define the spam bayes proxy to pickup the evaluated > mail and bring into my inbox? You need to go into the mail server settings in Outlook Express and set them to use "localhost" rather than your mail server(s). This is Tools->Accounts->Mail (tab), select the account, then Properties, from memory. Something like that, anyway. Since you're using Outlook Express, you'll also have to setup spambayes to include the classification (like "Spam") in the subject or "to" of the message as well, so that OE can filter it. You can do this via the "Configuration" link on the spambayes web interface (if you're using the tray icon, right click it and choose Configuration, then find the "Notate" options). Once OE is connecting through SpamBayes, you can set up rules in OE (like any other rules) so that spam is filtered into a spam folder, or whatever you like. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 16 00:45:21 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 16 00:45:49 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] More appreciation In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13057A9F3A@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677ADC@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I've said this before, but I just have to say it again -- the > SpamBayes Outlook plugin, and the underlying engine, > absolutely rule! I can't recall if I've said this before, so I'll say it now :) Thanks for the kind words; we all really appreciate it. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 16 00:47:53 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 16 00:48:43 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Acolade and asking help on how to set up folders. In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13057A9F38@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677ADD@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > This program is great. Thanks; we're glad you like it. > Is SpamBayes designed to set up only 2 folders (Junk E-Mail and Junk > Suspects) and process spamfree mail from the inbox? Yes, basically, although you can 'watch' as many folders for new mail to filter as you like. So you could filter your Inbox and any folders that Outlook rules put mail into, for example. After the filtering, the mail will either be still in the same place (if SpamBayes thinks it's good), or in the Junk E-Mail or Junk Suspects folders. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 16 00:55:03 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 16 00:55:57 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Suggested improvement - Navagation arrows In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13057A9F32@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677ADE@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I suggest you put navigation arrows on the SpamBayes toolbar > to navigate between the inbox, junk e-mail, junk suspects and > OK email folders. I've opened a feature request for you: [ 917105 ] Navigation arrows on the SpamBayes toolbar If you want to add any comments to it, please feel free. Otherwise someone will look at it at some point, and decide whether to add it in or not. You can also monitor the tracker through sourceforge and have it email you when the status changes (so you know to upgrade or whatever). (Feature requests via the mailing list tend to get lost in amongst the bug report traffic). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 16 01:40:19 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 16 01:41:17 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes 1.0a9 (0.9) In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F130525627E@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2B2A@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> [Again, apologies for the delay; very busy at the moment]. > Yes, it works this way, but has _very_ undesired side effect. > Since I've substituded both files with newer versions yesterday, ham get stuck in > my Inbox. That is, my client refuses to consider it newly > arrived, as it was before, and thus don't apply filtering rules to it. > So, ham don't get sorted, and I have to sort it manualy, as > Messenger's filtering mechanic works only on the messages in Inbox > it considers newly arrived. Drat. This is (IMO) a Python bug; I've submitted a report: [ 917120 ] imaplib: incorrect quoting in commands What happens is that using BODY.PEEK[] doesn't work, even though it's the best command to use, because Python's imaplib incorrectly chooses to quote "BODY.PEEK[]", so it fails, and the imapfilter falls back to RFC822, which doesn't preserve the /Seen flag. Hopefully this'll be fixed in Python, but that does SpamBayes no good, because we support Python 2.2, and we can't get the fix there. I'll try and work up something to get around it, and at the very least get it to fall back on RFC822.PEEK, which it used before (but isn't a valid IMAP command, even though it often works), before it falls back to RFC822. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 16 02:10:44 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 16 02:10:52 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes 1.0a9 (0.9) In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13057AA63A@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677AE1@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Drat. This is (IMO) a Python bug; I've submitted a report: Double drat. I was a bit hasty. It's a Python quirk not bug, and recognised. I had to use "(BODY.PEEK[])", even though "BODY.PEEK[]" is valid IMAP4. Ugly, IMO. Various other fixes were required, but I believe this is now fixed. A release is due out soon, so should incorporate it. I hope I said this way back when I was looking at this before, but in case I didn't, thanks for the help is sorting this out. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From skip at pobox.com Tue Mar 16 08:49:40 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Tue Mar 16 08:49:53 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes 1.0a9 (0.9) In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2B2A@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F130525627E@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2B2A@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <16471.1524.604059.656624@montanaro.dyndns.org> Tony> Hopefully this'll be fixed in Python, but that does SpamBayes no Tony> good, because we support Python 2.2, and we can't get the fix Tony> there. You can always copy and fix imaplib.py, then prefer the fixed version over the version that comes with Python. That would probably provide a good patch for the SF bug report as well. Skip From ti at notitarde.com Tue Mar 16 10:45:56 2004 From: ti at notitarde.com (Departamento de Sistemas) Date: Tue Mar 16 10:51:09 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 97 Message-ID: We are users of Outlook 97 we would like to know if si posibbe running Spambayes on this software. Thanks Carlos Acosta From erik at familietroost.nl Tue Mar 16 11:04:16 2004 From: erik at familietroost.nl (Erik Troost) Date: Tue Mar 16 11:03:23 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] is ther a way to make my default_bayes_database.db smaller? Message-ID: Is there a way to make my default_bayes_database.db smaller? On this moment it's size is 10.265KB. I'm using it in combination with Outlook and it's doing a great job! Erik Troost www.FamilieTroost.nl ... de site die Troost biedt From tim.one at comcast.net Tue Mar 16 11:45:27 2004 From: tim.one at comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Tue Mar 16 11:45:23 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] is ther a way to make my default_bayes_database.dbsmaller? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [Erik Troost] > Is there a way to make my default_bayes_database.db smaller? Only by doing less training -- the more messages you train on, the larger the database gets. Well, if you're a motivated programmer, you could try writing code to purge "low value" words, but that's an involved topic (which is why you'd need to be "motivated" ). > On this moment it's size is 10.265KB. I'm using it in combination > with Outlook and it's doing a great job! I'd guess that 10 megabytes is close to an average size for a spambayes database, but it depends on how much training you do. From rroberts at srihomes.com Tue Mar 16 12:19:41 2004 From: rroberts at srihomes.com (Randy Roberts) Date: Tue Mar 16 12:19:36 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Thank you for a great program! Message-ID: <356E3E91A62AD41183CD005004745D5994F817@SRICMAILSRV1> I just wanted to let you know that I have installed SpamBayes on 8 systems here that are running superbly. Every user has reported great satisfaction with the program's effectiveness. The Suspects folder is a great concept. Over the next month or so I will be determining how many users here should have the product installed and I will than suggest to management that they make a financial contribution to your efforts. Thanks again for making this tool available ! rr -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040316/ba3b1fdc/attachment.html From mike at smotherswebsite.com Tue Mar 16 12:48:13 2004 From: mike at smotherswebsite.com (Mike Smothers) Date: Tue Mar 16 12:42:21 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambaye and Incredi-Mail Message-ID: My wife insists on using Incredimail and has abandoned Outlook in favor of this program. Will SpamBaye work on Incredimail and if so, what do I need to download and how do I install it? I am computer literate but not in the programming arena, so please make the explanation simple. I am using the plugin for Outlook at it works GREAT!!!!!!!!!! Thanks, Mike --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.622 / Virus Database: 400 - Release Date: 3/13/2004 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040316/792e4ee7/attachment.html From gersfeld at comcast.net Tue Mar 16 13:10:24 2004 From: gersfeld at comcast.net (Bethanie Gordon) Date: Tue Mar 16 13:10:15 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] VERY confusing... Message-ID: <000801c40b81$f6827cd0$0300a8c0@nuthouse> Spam keeps shutting down my OE account as it downloads I installed spambayes but it's not working or I don't know how to make it work... sigh -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040316/b909ca63/attachment.html From gersfeld at comcast.net Tue Mar 16 13:14:05 2004 From: gersfeld at comcast.net (gersfeld@comcast.net) Date: Tue Mar 16 13:14:21 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Too Technical and confusing Message-ID: <031620041814.6727.3228@comcast.net> I know A LOT more than most PC users, but this program it way to technical for me to understand and the instructions are even worse! From papaDoc at videotron.ca Tue Mar 16 13:25:08 2004 From: papaDoc at videotron.ca (papaDoc) Date: Tue Mar 16 13:24:14 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Too Technical and confusing In-Reply-To: <031620041814.6727.3228@comcast.net> References: <031620041814.6727.3228@comcast.net> Message-ID: <40574684.3000003@videotron.ca> Hi, >This program it way to technical for me to understand and the instructions are even worse! > > This might be true.... Can you help us. Tell us what you don't understand we will try to explain better than you can write the instruction in plain english for everyone else. Remi -- /"\ \ / X ASCII Ribbon Campaign / \ Against HTML Email From papaDoc at videotron.ca Tue Mar 16 13:51:11 2004 From: papaDoc at videotron.ca (papaDoc) Date: Tue Mar 16 13:50:21 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Too Technical and confusing In-Reply-To: <002101c40b84$e8122b70$0300a8c0@nuthouse> References: <031620041814.6727.3228@comcast.net> <40574684.3000003@videotron.ca> <002101c40b84$e8122b70$0300a8c0@nuthouse> Message-ID: <40574C9F.8030605@videotron.ca> Hi Bethanie, > Ok, I seriously do not know how to properly configure it to work with > my outlook express box. I followed instructions but my email is still > being abruptly halted whenever Norton finds a spam coming in..... > > I don't know how to train the proper email or train the spams all to > go where they should...or if it is even doing that! First of all. what are you using ? sb_server.py; the service with the 0.9 install program. If you disable Norton for a while, are you able to filter your mail ? Did you take a look at the configuration page (try in a web browser http://localhost:8880). Remi P.S. Since I'm not using Norton, I will try to guess something and this might be wrong ( I was able to give wrong answer before so I might be able to continue ..... with you ) -- /"\ \ / X ASCII Ribbon Campaign / \ Against HTML Email From seant at iname.com Tue Mar 16 13:58:18 2004 From: seant at iname.com (Sean True) Date: Tue Mar 16 13:58:27 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] InBoxer/SpamAtBay beta available. Message-ID: It's been a long time since I posted availability of a new beta. This makes the list of changes quite long. ======== Historical notes. InBoxer (SpamAtBay for those with a long memory) is a commercial spam filter for Outlook 2000+, based on the Spambayes project, extended with bug fixes, functionality, documentation, and support. We share occasional ideas and even more occasional code with Mark Hammond. I wrote the first, really, really bad integration with Outlook, using VBA and a Python COM server. Mark Hammond thought the idea was neat, but that the execution was, err, flawed, and pretty much rewrote it from scratch. Over the last few months, I've had a team of several people working on polishing, layout, docs, QA, and (gag) marketing oriented features. The current SB for Outlook and InBoxer/SpamAtBay forked last May, although InBoxer/SAB use the current Spambayes engine. We're still focusing on Tim's "easy enough for my sister" metric. =========== If you are a developer (code, docs, frequent question-on-the-list answerer, etc) you can ask me for an activation code, and get one. You can download from http://pad.in-boxer.com/InBoxerSetupBeta1.1.31.zip The core features for release 1.2 are stability and speed of operation. In addition, there are several improvements in the user interface and in overall functionality. User interface improvements. 1) Preference and Advanced Preference dialogs have been added. This makes it much easier to configure Inboxer behavior. The preferences dialog on main menu has settings for mark spam as read, show system tray icon, and automatic deletion of old spam. The Advanced preferences menu on advanced menu has settings for automatic folder repair, and for controlling the timings for the message filtering scheduler. 2) The overall menu structure has been rearranged for ease of use. 3) The post install checkup wizard has been extended by one screen. 4) The dialog that nags the user to activate the product during startup is now less annoying. 5) Inboxer now watches the incoming mail for a valid activation message, and if it arrives automatically activates the product. A pop-up dialog acknowledges activation. 6) A menu item was added to manually delete block messages older than a given number of days, which can be set in the preferences dialog on the main menu. 7) A menu item to manually save the current configuration and statistics was added to the advanced menu. 8) Lists of trusted and blocked addresses can now be exported, imported, and merged. File formats include Excel spreadsheet (CSV format) and text (txt) files. 9) A menu item was added to the statistics menu to allow the user to balance the database statistics (creating equal number of good and spam messages), which can improve performance if the ratio of good messages to spam messages is very large or very small, at the cost of reducing some of the information in the database. Balancing the database also makes it smaller, which can improve runtime performance. 10) The user plug-in architecture has been extended to include dialog capability, and an example plug-in which displays long term performance statistics is available for download. 11) Help -> Check for updates logs into our customer support site, notes your current version, and tells you what your preferred upgrade path would be. This will let us suggest specific upgrades for specific versions of InBoxer. 12) Help -> Troubleshooting logs into our customer support site, also notes your current version, and then analyzes uploaded configuration and performance information to make suggestions. By putting the troubleshooting code on the web page, we can improve it for everyone without needing to upgrade the installed version of InBoxer. Improvements to speed. Version 1.2 is built using Python 2.3.2, and the psyco optimizing compiler. Additional tuning has also improved initial loading speed. Improvements to stability. A number of significant problems were addressed in this release: 1) Outlook now shuts down more cleanly and more quickly. 2) The install program now automatically uninstalls the program files for the previous version, while leaving the statistics in configuration files in place. 3) The toolbar buttons are now placed in their own standalone toolbar, which can be customized independently of the main Outlook toolbar. 4) Hotmail folders are not properly supported under Outlook 2003 5) A repair and support option was added to the program start menu, which addresses the most common load failures encountered with the add-in. This information is included in the technical support e-mail which is created automatically. 6) Version 1.1 had several issues with the toolbar customization dialog, and with abbreviations and short cuts in Outlook when entered after using one of the file dialogs, or one of the folder tree dialogs. The code which cause the conflict and the resulting issues has been removed. 7) Version 1.1 failed if the user unintentionally (or intentionally) remove the blocked or review folders without replacing and reconfiguring them. Missing folders can now be automatically repaired and reconfigured, and this behavior is controlled by an option on the advanced preferences dialog. 8) Version 1.1 was somewhat unstable under Windows 98, and these problems are addressed in this release. 9) Express set up now checks to make sure that the inbox contains a minimala mount of spam before building the statistics database. If there is access spam the inbox, express set up stops, and asks the user to clean the inbox first. 10) Entering an activation code now immediately enables the user interface in an expired trial version. 11) The user can enter the trial period lowercase that entering a valid e-mail address. 12) Express set up checks to see whether the ratio of spam to good messages is great than 2: 1 or less than 1: 2, and automatically balances the statistics if the ratio is out of range. This prevents an excess number of messages in the unsure category (placed in the review folder). 13) A number of issues with the sender list (trust/block by email address or domain) have been fixed. Like all beta software, use of this version incurs some risk. We believe that risk to be very small. Thanks again for your help. -- Sean Sean True Chief Technologist Audiotrieve, LLC. From scott at hbrealestateservices.com Tue Mar 16 15:03:02 2004 From: scott at hbrealestateservices.com (Scott Miller) Date: Tue Mar 16 15:03:18 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Question Message-ID: I have been using your product for a month now and it's great. Saves mew a lot of time. But just the other day the folder I had all the Spam product going directly into disappeared. It keeps asking me for a new folder so I created a new one and reset so it goes in there but it doesn't work. Could you have someone call me from customer service that would be great. I have spent about an hour trying different things to work. I have window XP home edition Thank you, Scott J. Miller Director of Real Estate & Finance American Home Realty & Loans Tel: 714-374-0491 Fax:714-374-0494 Cell:714-801-2111 Email:Scott@HbRealEstateServices.com Web: www.HbRealEstateServices.com From tvalusek at vs.inext.cz Tue Mar 16 15:24:20 2004 From: tvalusek at vs.inext.cz (Tomas Valusek) Date: Tue Mar 16 15:24:29 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Can't submit bugs Message-ID: <011a01c40b94$aedbeb10$560b6fd4@domaci> Hello, I've downloaded SpamBayes Outlook plugin for Windows and I've found a bug. I'd like to submit it, but I can't. A bug tracker page says I have to login into sf.net, although I'm already logged in, i.e. I have an sf.net account. Does anyone have similar problem? Tomas Valusek From tvalusek at vs.inext.cz Tue Mar 16 15:25:50 2004 From: tvalusek at vs.inext.cz (Tomas Valusek) Date: Tue Mar 16 15:26:02 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Oops - my fault Message-ID: <011b01c40b94$e5551400$560b6fd4@domaci> Hello, I'm almost blind, so i messed quite a small link named "submit new" on sf.net's bug tracker. Sorry for bothering you here on maillist. Tomas Valusek From skip at pobox.com Tue Mar 16 15:35:48 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Tue Mar 16 15:35:57 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambaye and Incredi-Mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <16471.25892.89999.877548@montanaro.dyndns.org> Mike> My wife insists on using Incredimail and has abandoned Outlook in Mike> favor of this program. Will SpamBaye work on Incredimail and if Mike> so, what do I need to download and how do I install it? I'm not familiar with Incredimail but if it fetches email using POP3 or IMAP you should be able to set up sb_server.py (for POP3 connections) or sb_imapfilter.py (for IMAP connections). Installation details should be on the Spambayes website. Skip From skip at pobox.com Tue Mar 16 15:37:40 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Tue Mar 16 15:37:50 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] VERY confusing... In-Reply-To: <000801c40b81$f6827cd0$0300a8c0@nuthouse> References: <000801c40b81$f6827cd0$0300a8c0@nuthouse> Message-ID: <16471.26004.349056.71339@montanaro.dyndns.org> Bethanie> Spam keeps shutting down my OE account as it downloads Bethanie> I installed spambayes but it's not working or I don't know how Bethanie> to make it work... Bethanie, Can you be more specific about what you've tried? In particular, which Spambayes application are you using? Have you configured Outlook Express to talk to it? Skip From skip at pobox.com Tue Mar 16 16:39:00 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Tue Mar 16 16:39:23 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] VERY confusing... In-Reply-To: <002501c40b97$a3d79b80$0300a8c0@nuthouse> References: <000801c40b81$f6827cd0$0300a8c0@nuthouse> <16471.26004.349056.71339@montanaro.dyndns.org> <002501c40b97$a3d79b80$0300a8c0@nuthouse> Message-ID: <16471.29684.615907.94033@montanaro.dyndns.org> (Please keep spambayes@python.org in the cc list so you get the benefit of more eyeballs and neurons. I'm also adding spambayes-dev to the cc list to generate input on whether we should be doing something to fool virus scanners.) Bethanie> I have version 4 and to be frank I don't have a clue as to Bethanie> what I may have done after installing it...all I know is that Bethanie> Norton halts the mail because of spam(and this only began 5 Bethanie> days ago) and yes when I turn off Norton email scanning my Bethanie> mail comes through fine. I want virus scanning though! Version 4. Hmmm... The latest version of the Spambayes distribution is 1.0a9 which includes version 0.4 of the POP3 Proxy. I'll assume that's what you mean. Interacting with virus scanners can be a pain. Norton may be snatching the mail out from under the POP3 Proxy's nose when it's not expecting it, though I thought Tony had some checks in the code to handle those situations. Bethanie> I can go on site and delete the spams from there and then go Bethanie> back to OE and download the rest of the mail but that's a Bethanie> PITA. Agreed, that's not the way to go. Bethanie> All I did was download spambaye and allow it to install and Bethanie> then I attempted to configure it. I use Comcast cable a Pop3 Bethanie> server btw. Can you let us know what your configuration settings are? In particular, I wonder what the "cache messages" setting on http://localhost:8880/config is set to. Unfortunately, if you don't let it cache messages you can't train on them. If you do disable that setting can you receive mail with Norton enabled? I'm not a Windows or Norton user (nor do I use the POP3 proxy very often). Is it possible to tell Norton to be a bit more selective about the folders it scans? Another possibility - more for Tony Meyer's eyes - is to consider obfuscating the cached messages so they don't look like virus candidates to Norton. Perhaps perform a simple rot-128 of the contents of the messages or xor them with a known string before writing them, or write them gzipped. Anything which you can fairly easily reverse when reading them but which will defang them enough to fool Norton. Skip From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 16 16:58:32 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 16 16:59:20 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 97 In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13057AA73A@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677AE5@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > We are users of Outlook 97 we would like to know if si > posibbe running Spambayes on this software. You can't use the Outlook plug-in, no, sorry. Microsoft made major changes to the way Outlook worked between 97 and 2000 (which is the earliest version the plug-in supports), and it would be a lot of very difficult work to get a version of the plug-in working for 97 (it would pretty much be a whole new plugin). If you get mail from POP3 or IMAP rather than Exchange, though, you can use the POP3 proxy (sb_server) or IMAP filter (sb_imapfilter). You don't get the nicely integrated plug-in experience, but it's a perfectly workable solution that many (non-Outlook) users use. To use, you download the same installer, but choose to install sb_server rather than the plug-in (which wouldn't work). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From virus_alert at cpcnet-hk.com Tue Mar 16 17:02:59 2004 From: virus_alert at cpcnet-hk.com (SAV Scan Engine) Date: Tue Mar 16 17:03:02 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] ALERT: A virus was found on an e-mail sent by you Message-ID: Dear spambayes@python.org, Our virus scanner has detected virus(es) in your e-mail attachment(s). Original Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 11:22:27 -0800 Original Sender: spambayes@python.org Original To: nmchan@picoworld.com Original Subject: read it immediately Virus info: 1. msg.zip/msg.htm.com: W32.Netsky.B@mm deleted Thank you, CPCNet Hong Kong Limited From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 16 17:06:43 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 16 17:08:08 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Oops - my fault In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13057AA7AD@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677AE7@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I'm almost blind, so i messed quite a small link named > "submit new" on sf.net's bug tracker. Sorry for bothering you > here on maillist. FWIW, this is a very common misconception, and IMO a flaw in sourceforge's ui. It would really make sense to remove the (very prominent) "you must be logged in" messages if the user is already logged in. I believe you can submit feature requests for the sourceforge system itself, somewhere, if you wanted to bother :) =Tony Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 16 19:32:17 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 16 19:33:03 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] VERY confusing... In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13057AA7E6@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2B2D@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> [Bethanie] > I have version 4 and to be frank I don't have a clue as to > what I may have done after installing it...all I know is that > Norton halts the mail because of spam(and this only began 5 > days ago) and yes when I turn off Norton email scanning my > mail comes through fine. I want virus scanning though! I'm not really clear on the details here, but it sounds like this problem doesn't involve spambayes at all. Did you have this problem before using spambayes? If you don't use spambayes (change your mail program back to connecting to the mail server, rather than to "localhost"), do you still have the problem? What do you mean by "halts the mail"? Does Norton stop the mail being displayed? Stop it being filtered by spambayes? Stop the delivery of that one message? Stop all mail delivery? > Interacting with > virus scanners can be a pain. Norton may be snatching the > mail out from under the POP3 Proxy's nose when it's not > expecting it, though I thought Tony had some checks in the > code to handle those situations. We've gone through a few things here. TimS (IIRC) originally had the proxy ignore problems where messages disappear from under its nose, and (for some valid at the time reason) I (IIRC) modified that to continue on, printing out an error, but not displaying any missing messages in the review page. > Another possibility - more for Tony Meyer's eyes - is to > consider obfuscating the cached messages so they don't look > like virus candidates to Norton. Perhaps perform a simple > rot-128 of the contents of the messages or xor them with a > known string before writing them, or write them gzipped. > Anything which you can fairly easily reverse when reading > them but which will defang them enough to fool Norton. I've wondered about this too (people reporting the "file is missing" error is relatively common), although being able to read the message files as plain text, without using spambayes at all, is nice, IMO. I hadn't thought about gzip, though - you can set the cache to gzip all the messages already (something Richie added way way back, maybe?). I don't know if that would stop virus checkers identifying the cached messages or not, though you're probably right that it would. I don't have any handy to test on. The appropriate option is exposed on the "Advanced Configuration" page of the web interface. Bethanie could try turning that on, and seeing if that makes a difference. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 16 19:33:42 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 16 19:34:44 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Thank you for a great program! In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13057AA77E@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677AEC@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I just wanted to let you know that I have installed > SpamBayes on 8 systems here that are running superbly. > Every user has reported great satisfaction with the > program's effectiveness. Thanks for the kind words; we greatly appreciate it. If you do make a donation (and it is completely voluntary), that is much appreciated, too. =Tony Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 16 19:39:20 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 16 19:40:22 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Question In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13057AA79E@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2B2E@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > But just the other day the > folder I had all the Spam product going directly into > disappeared. It keeps asking me for a new folder so I created > a new one and reset so it goes in there but it doesn't work. What do you mean by "reset", and what do you mean by "doesn't work"? If you just created a new folder with the same name and location as the old one, that isn't actually making the change. What you need to do is go into the Manager dialog (via the drop-down menu on the toolbar), go to the Filtering tab, click the Browse button next to the Spam folder entry, and reselect the folder there. This should fix the problem. > Could you have someone call me from customer service that > would be great. I have spent about an hour trying different > things to work. I'm afraid that we don't have customer service, other than this mailing list, the wiki, and the webpages. Given that it's a free program created by volunteers, it wouldn't really make sense to do so. If you ask for help here, you're fairly likely to get an answer within a reasonable (but quite variable) time. If you think you really need to have 'proper' customer service available, then you're probably better off using a commercial filter. There is at least one (InBoxer) that's based on the SpamBayes code (there's a link on our website on the 'related' page). The downside is that you'll be paying money for this, of course. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tdhicks at mindspring.com Wed Mar 17 01:38:44 2004 From: tdhicks at mindspring.com (Travis D. Hicks) Date: Wed Mar 17 01:38:53 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Report a bug Message-ID: Skipped content of type multipart/related-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: spambayes1.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 1450 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040317/df902e31/spambayes1-0001.obj From tdhicks at mindspring.com Wed Mar 17 01:47:16 2004 From: tdhicks at mindspring.com (Travis D. Hicks) Date: Wed Mar 17 01:47:22 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Report a bug Message-ID: Skipped content of type multipart/related-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: spambayes1.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 1450 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040317/ed673093/spambayes1.obj From CSamuels at global-journey.com Wed Mar 17 02:49:02 2004 From: CSamuels at global-journey.com (Colin Samuels) Date: Wed Mar 17 02:52:08 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Help Message-ID: Please unsubscribe me. Thanks -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-request@python.org [mailto:spambayes-request@python.org] Sent: 17 March 2004 06:39 To: spambayes@python.org Subject: Spambayes Digest, Vol 67, Issue 44 [Scanned for viruses] Send Spambayes mailing list submissions to spambayes@python.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to spambayes-request@python.org You can reach the person managing the list at spambayes-owner@python.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Spambayes digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Spambaye and Incredi-Mail (Skip Montanaro) 2. Re: VERY confusing... (Skip Montanaro) 3. Re: VERY confusing... (Skip Montanaro) 4. RE: Outlook 97 (Tony Meyer) 5. ALERT: A virus was found on an e-mail sent by you (SAV Scan Engine) 6. RE: Oops - my fault (Tony Meyer) 7. RE: VERY confusing... (Tony Meyer) 8. RE: Thank you for a great program! (Tony Meyer) 9. RE: Question (Tony Meyer) 10. Report a bug (Travis D. Hicks) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 14:35:48 -0600 From: Skip Montanaro Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Spambaye and Incredi-Mail To: "Mike Smothers" Cc: spambayes@python.org Message-ID: <16471.25892.89999.877548@montanaro.dyndns.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mike> My wife insists on using Incredimail and has abandoned Outlook in Mike> favor of this program. Will SpamBaye work on Incredimail and if Mike> so, what do I need to download and how do I install it? I'm not familiar with Incredimail but if it fetches email using POP3 or IMAP you should be able to set up sb_server.py (for POP3 connections) or sb_imapfilter.py (for IMAP connections). Installation details should be on the Spambayes website. Skip ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 14:37:40 -0600 From: Skip Montanaro Subject: Re: [Spambayes] VERY confusing... To: "Bethanie Gordon" Cc: spambayes@python.org Message-ID: <16471.26004.349056.71339@montanaro.dyndns.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Bethanie> Spam keeps shutting down my OE account as it downloads Bethanie> I installed spambayes but it's not working or I don't know how Bethanie> to make it work... Bethanie, Can you be more specific about what you've tried? In particular, which Spambayes application are you using? Have you configured Outlook Express to talk to it? Skip ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 15:39:00 -0600 From: Skip Montanaro Subject: Re: [Spambayes] VERY confusing... To: "Bethanie Gordon" Cc: spambayes@python.org, spambayes-dev@python.org Message-ID: <16471.29684.615907.94033@montanaro.dyndns.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii (Please keep spambayes@python.org in the cc list so you get the benefit of more eyeballs and neurons. I'm also adding spambayes-dev to the cc list to generate input on whether we should be doing something to fool virus scanners.) Bethanie> I have version 4 and to be frank I don't have a clue as to Bethanie> what I may have done after installing it...all I know is that Bethanie> Norton halts the mail because of spam(and this only began 5 Bethanie> days ago) and yes when I turn off Norton email scanning my Bethanie> mail comes through fine. I want virus scanning though! Version 4. Hmmm... The latest version of the Spambayes distribution is 1.0a9 which includes version 0.4 of the POP3 Proxy. I'll assume that's what you mean. Interacting with virus scanners can be a pain. Norton may be snatching the mail out from under the POP3 Proxy's nose when it's not expecting it, though I thought Tony had some checks in the code to handle those situations. Bethanie> I can go on site and delete the spams from there and then go Bethanie> back to OE and download the rest of the mail but that's a Bethanie> PITA. Agreed, that's not the way to go. Bethanie> All I did was download spambaye and allow it to install and Bethanie> then I attempted to configure it. I use Comcast cable a Pop3 Bethanie> server btw. Can you let us know what your configuration settings are? In particular, I wonder what the "cache messages" setting on http://localhost:8880/config is set to. Unfortunately, if you don't let it cache messages you can't train on them. If you do disable that setting can you receive mail with Norton enabled? I'm not a Windows or Norton user (nor do I use the POP3 proxy very often). Is it possible to tell Norton to be a bit more selective about the folders it scans? Another possibility - more for Tony Meyer's eyes - is to consider obfuscating the cached messages so they don't look like virus candidates to Norton. Perhaps perform a simple rot-128 of the contents of the messages or xor them with a known string before writing them, or write them gzipped. Anything which you can fairly easily reverse when reading them but which will defang them enough to fool Norton. Skip ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 10:58:32 +1300 From: "Tony Meyer" Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Outlook 97 To: "'Departamento de Sistemas'" , Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677AE5@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > We are users of Outlook 97 we would like to know if si > posibbe running Spambayes on this software. You can't use the Outlook plug-in, no, sorry. Microsoft made major changes to the way Outlook worked between 97 and 2000 (which is the earliest version the plug-in supports), and it would be a lot of very difficult work to get a version of the plug-in working for 97 (it would pretty much be a whole new plugin). If you get mail from POP3 or IMAP rather than Exchange, though, you can use the POP3 proxy (sb_server) or IMAP filter (sb_imapfilter). You don't get the nicely integrated plug-in experience, but it's a perfectly workable solution that many (non-Outlook) users use. To use, you download the same installer, but choose to install sb_server rather than the plug-in (which wouldn't work). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 17:02:59 -0500 From: SAV Scan Engine Subject: [Spambayes] ALERT: A virus was found on an e-mail sent by you To: spambayes@python.org Message-ID: Dear spambayes@python.org, Our virus scanner has detected virus(es) in your e-mail attachment(s). Original Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 11:22:27 -0800 Original Sender: spambayes@python.org Original To: nmchan@picoworld.com Original Subject: read it immediately Virus info: 1. msg.zip/msg.htm.com: W32.Netsky.B@mm deleted Thank you, CPCNet Hong Kong Limited ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 11:06:43 +1300 From: "Tony Meyer" Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Oops - my fault To: "'Tomas Valusek'" , Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677AE7@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > I'm almost blind, so i messed quite a small link named > "submit new" on sf.net's bug tracker. Sorry for bothering you > here on maillist. FWIW, this is a very common misconception, and IMO a flaw in sourceforge's ui. It would really make sense to remove the (very prominent) "you must be logged in" messages if the user is already logged in. I believe you can submit feature requests for the sourceforge system itself, somewhere, if you wanted to bother :) =Tony Meyer ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 13:32:17 +1300 From: "Tony Meyer" Subject: RE: [Spambayes] VERY confusing... To: , "'Bethanie Gordon'" Cc: spambayes@python.org, spambayes-dev@python.org Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2B2D@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" [Bethanie] > I have version 4 and to be frank I don't have a clue as to what I may > have done after installing it...all I know is that Norton halts the > mail because of spam(and this only began 5 days ago) and yes when I > turn off Norton email scanning my mail comes through fine. I want > virus scanning though! I'm not really clear on the details here, but it sounds like this problem doesn't involve spambayes at all. Did you have this problem before using spambayes? If you don't use spambayes (change your mail program back to connecting to the mail server, rather than to "localhost"), do you still have the problem? What do you mean by "halts the mail"? Does Norton stop the mail being displayed? Stop it being filtered by spambayes? Stop the delivery of that one message? Stop all mail delivery? > Interacting with > virus scanners can be a pain. Norton may be snatching the > mail out from under the POP3 Proxy's nose when it's not > expecting it, though I thought Tony had some checks in the > code to handle those situations. We've gone through a few things here. TimS (IIRC) originally had the proxy ignore problems where messages disappear from under its nose, and (for some valid at the time reason) I (IIRC) modified that to continue on, printing out an error, but not displaying any missing messages in the review page. > Another possibility - more for Tony Meyer's eyes - is to > consider obfuscating the cached messages so they don't look > like virus candidates to Norton. Perhaps perform a simple > rot-128 of the contents of the messages or xor them with a > known string before writing them, or write them gzipped. > Anything which you can fairly easily reverse when reading > them but which will defang them enough to fool Norton. I've wondered about this too (people reporting the "file is missing" error is relatively common), although being able to read the message files as plain text, without using spambayes at all, is nice, IMO. I hadn't thought about gzip, though - you can set the cache to gzip all the messages already (something Richie added way way back, maybe?). I don't know if that would stop virus checkers identifying the cached messages or not, though you're probably right that it would. I don't have any handy to test on. The appropriate option is exposed on the "Advanced Configuration" page of the web interface. Bethanie could try turning that on, and seeing if that makes a difference. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 13:33:42 +1300 From: "Tony Meyer" Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Thank you for a great program! To: "'Randy Roberts'" , Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677AEC@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > I just wanted to let you know that I have installed > SpamBayes on 8 systems here that are running superbly. > Every user has reported great satisfaction with the > program's effectiveness. Thanks for the kind words; we greatly appreciate it. If you do make a donation (and it is completely voluntary), that is much appreciated, too. =Tony Meyer ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 13:39:20 +1300 From: "Tony Meyer" Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Question To: "'Scott Miller'" , Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2B2E@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > But just the other day the > folder I had all the Spam product going directly into > disappeared. It keeps asking me for a new folder so I created > a new one and reset so it goes in there but it doesn't work. What do you mean by "reset", and what do you mean by "doesn't work"? If you just created a new folder with the same name and location as the old one, that isn't actually making the change. What you need to do is go into the Manager dialog (via the drop-down menu on the toolbar), go to the Filtering tab, click the Browse button next to the Spam folder entry, and reselect the folder there. This should fix the problem. > Could you have someone call me from customer service that > would be great. I have spent about an hour trying different > things to work. I'm afraid that we don't have customer service, other than this mailing list, the wiki, and the webpages. Given that it's a free program created by volunteers, it wouldn't really make sense to do so. If you ask for help here, you're fairly likely to get an answer within a reasonable (but quite variable) time. If you think you really need to have 'proper' customer service available, then you're probably better off using a commercial filter. There is at least one (InBoxer) that's based on the SpamBayes code (there's a link on our website on the 'related' page). The downside is that you'll be paying money for this, of course. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 01:38:44 -0500 From: "Travis D. Hicks" Subject: [Spambayes] Report a bug To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Skipped content of type multipart/related-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: spambayes1.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 1450 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040317/df902e31 /spambayes1.obj ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html End of Spambayes Digest, Vol 67, Issue 44 ***************************************** From Amir_Katz at bmc.com Wed Mar 17 03:07:24 2004 From: Amir_Katz at bmc.com (Katz, Amir) Date: Wed Mar 17 03:10:06 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Question about the SB proxy Message-ID: Here is my understanding about working with the POP3 proxy, and what I'm not sure about. Please confirm/reject what I said and fill in the blanks for me: 1. The proxy downloads a mail message from the real POP3 server at my ISP 2. Message is examined by the proxy 3. Ham message is passed as-is to the mail client (Outlook Express, Eudora, etc.) 4. Spam message is modified as configured (in my case, add 'spam' to the 'to:' list) and then passed to the mail client 5. 'Unsure' message - what happens to it? Does it wait on the proxy until I train SB on it, or what? Thanks, Amir "The C Programming Language - A language which combines the flexibility of assembly language with the power of assembly language." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040317/85998c38/attachment.html From underoneroof at lawyers.com Wed Mar 17 07:48:41 2004 From: underoneroof at lawyers.com (underoneroof@lawyers.com) Date: Wed Mar 17 03:51:47 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Mari Mengundi Message-ID: Selamat Mengundi pada 21 Mac 2004. Ke Arah Cemerlang, Gemilang dan Terbilang. From skip at pobox.com Wed Mar 17 07:42:53 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Wed Mar 17 07:42:57 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] VERY confusing... In-Reply-To: <00d401c40c12$b40445a0$0300a8c0@nuthouse> References: <000801c40b81$f6827cd0$0300a8c0@nuthouse> <16471.26004.349056.71339@montanaro.dyndns.org> <002501c40b97$a3d79b80$0300a8c0@nuthouse> <16471.29684.615907.94033@montanaro.dyndns.org> <00d401c40c12$b40445a0$0300a8c0@nuthouse> Message-ID: <16472.18381.673414.447214@montanaro.dyndns.org> Bethanie> First of all I don't understand half the stuff you Bethanie> suggested. Not to worry. Some of it was mostly for the Spambayes developers. Bethanie> My mail came through ok this am, even the spam didn't stop Bethanie> it..so go figure!! Maybe you just got lucky and no viruses came through for Norton to suppress. Bethanie> Anyway I copied and pasted my settings..s Ihope it comes Bethanie> through below Here's what I was asking about: Bethanie> Storage Options ... Bethanie> Cache messages: No Bethanie> Yes Cache messages: You can disable the Bethanie> pop3proxy caching of messages. This will make the Bethanie> proxy a bit faster, and make it use less space on Bethanie> your hard drive. The proxy uses its cache for Bethanie> reviewing and training of messages, so if you Bethanie> disable caching you won't be able to do further Bethanie> training unless you re-enable it. Thus, you Bethanie> should only turn caching off when you are Bethanie> satisfied with the filtering that Spambayes is Bethanie> doing for you. Bethanie> Current Value: Yes The current value indicates the POP3 Proxy is caching the messages which pass through it. It needs to do that so you can come back later and train on them. If you have problems with mail getting lost/held up/whatever again, please try setting that option to "No" and see if it solves the problem. Skip From sng2004x at netscape.net Wed Mar 17 08:30:28 2004 From: sng2004x at netscape.net (Stephen Ng) Date: Wed Mar 17 08:30:43 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] error messages In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677ADA@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677ADA@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <405852F4.60109@netscape.net> Tony, It seems to happen almost all the time. sb_server does not crash. It just continues until the next time it tries to find a file in spam-cache that is not there, then it will print the relevant trace back and error message. I don't have any anti virus running so I don't know what if anything has removed the file. Stephen Ng tameyer@ihug.co.nz wrote: >>I installed v1.0a9 on my Redhat 9. Everything seems to work correctly >>except for the following error messages - >> >> >[...] > > >>IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: >>'/home/sng/pop3proxy-spam-cache/1078759883' >> >>The filename in spam-cache is different everytime. >> >> > >How often do these arise? The majority of the time that I've seen this >message, it has been because some other program has moved out the cache >files from underneath spambayes (typically virus protection). Being in the >spam cache supports that, since virus messages typically end up there. > >Does it keep going after the traceback? IIRC, it's meant to, so that it >records the problem, but keeps going since this does happen. > >=Tony Meyer > >--- >Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies >(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. 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Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 46479 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040316/95e90c29/attachment-0001.jpe From papaDoc at videotron.ca Wed Mar 17 09:12:33 2004 From: papaDoc at videotron.ca (papaDoc) Date: Wed Mar 17 09:11:34 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Question about the SB proxy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40585CD1.1000601@videotron.ca> Hi, > Here is my understanding about working with the POP3 proxy, and what > I'm not sure about. Please confirm/reject what I said and fill in the > blanks for me: > > 1. The proxy downloads a mail message from the real POP3 server at my ISP Yes, > 2. Message is examined by the proxy Yes > 3. Ham message is passed as-is to the mail client (Outlook Express, > Eudora, etc.) If this is your setup than yes this is true but in the configuration page Section Header Options the Notate to: ham spam unsure The 3 options can be selected > 4. Spam message is modified as configured (in my case, add 'spam' to > the 'to:' list) and then passed to the mail client Yes > 5. 'Unsure' message - what happens to it? Does it wait on the proxy > until I train SB on it, or what? The proxy examine the email and find that is an unsure but don't do anything with it since this is what you have tell the proxy to do (or not do ????). so you see it as unmodified email See section 3 above. The unsure in the Notate to: should be check also. Remi -- /"\ \ / X ASCII Ribbon Campaign / \ Against HTML Email From fox at 4js.com.au Wed Mar 17 09:14:29 2004 From: fox at 4js.com.au (Charles X Fox) Date: Wed Mar 17 09:15:40 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes + Outlook Express Message-ID: <000e01c40c2a$2acbb710$0a06a8c0@Fox> Hi *, I installed spambayes for outlook express and i didn't beleive how good this was compared to other products. Excellent work spambayes guys. It seems that I have developed a problem. Spam is now getting through and when I try to "train" using the browser interface I get python error - ----- Viz --- 500 Server error Traceback (most recent call last): File "C:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\Dibbler.py", line 453, in found_terminator getattr(plugin, name)(**params) .. . . .< more stuff> . . . . DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') -----Can anyone give me a pointer on where to start looking to fix this ?I really want my heat shield back :-(Thanks Fox -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040317/a36bbfd5/attachment.html From Amir_Katz at bmc.com Wed Mar 17 09:36:59 2004 From: Amir_Katz at bmc.com (Katz, Amir) Date: Wed Mar 17 09:38:40 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Question about the SB proxy Message-ID: Thanks for the answer. I guess that what I need to do is to change the configuration and tag the 'unsure' mails in a similar manner (e.g. add 'unsure' to the To: list) and then add another rule to move them to a folder, similar to what I already do with the spam (with awesome success, I must say) Thanks, Amir -----Original Message----- From: papaDoc [mailto:papaDoc@videotron.ca] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 16:13 To: Katz, Amir; spambayes@python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Question about the SB proxy Hi, > Here is my understanding about working with the POP3 proxy, and what > I'm not sure about. Please confirm/reject what I said and fill in the > blanks for me: > > 1. The proxy downloads a mail message from the real POP3 server at my ISP Yes, > 2. Message is examined by the proxy Yes > 3. Ham message is passed as-is to the mail client (Outlook Express, > Eudora, etc.) If this is your setup than yes this is true but in the configuration page Section Header Options the Notate to: ham spam unsure The 3 options can be selected > 4. Spam message is modified as configured (in my case, add 'spam' to > the 'to:' list) and then passed to the mail client Yes > 5. 'Unsure' message - what happens to it? Does it wait on the proxy > until I train SB on it, or what? The proxy examine the email and find that is an unsure but don't do anything with it since this is what you have tell the proxy to do (or not do ????). so you see it as unmodified email See section 3 above. The unsure in the Notate to: should be check also. Remi -- /"\ \ / X ASCII Ribbon Campaign / \ Against HTML Email From Amir_Katz at bmc.com Wed Mar 17 09:39:09 2004 From: Amir_Katz at bmc.com (Katz, Amir) Date: Wed Mar 17 09:41:02 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Question about the 'Recover from Spam' button Message-ID: This may be obvious, but AFAIK, this button is available only in the 'spam' and 'spam suspects' folders. All other folders have only the 'delete as spam' button. -----Original Message----- From: marc.laverdiere@rbc.com [mailto:marc.laverdiere@rbc.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 16:25 To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Question about the 'Recover from Spam' button Good morning, I've installed Spam Bayes at home and it works great. I have this button, recover from spam, that I find pretty useful. I also installed SpamBayes at work, but this time, I just can't find the 'recover from spam' button. Where could it be? Can you help? Thanks Marc LaVerdi?re, MCSE, CCNA National Training Coordinator Technology Support Centre Tel:514-218-2861 marc.laverdiere@rbc.com Visit the TSC website at: http://www.rbc1.royalbank.com/english/st/tsc/support/index.asp ------------------------------------------------------------ This e-mail may be privileged and/or confidential, and the sender does not waive any related rights and obligations. Any distribution, use or copying of this e-mail or the information it contains by other than an intended recipient is unauthorized. If you received this e-mail in error, please advise me (by return e-mail or otherwise) immediately. Ce courrier ?lectronique est confidentiel et prot?g?. L'exp?diteur ne renonce pas aux droits et obligations qui s'y rapportent. Toute diffusion, utilisation ou copie de ce message ou des renseignements qu'il contient par une personne autre que le (les) destinataire(s) d?sign?(s) est interdite. 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There's already a "Use gzip" option in the Storage Options section of the Advanced Configuration page. If you set that to Yes then SpamBayes will gzip compress any files that it writes to the cache. That would be worth a try if you think the cache is the cause of the Norton problems. -- Kenny Pitt From adam.walker at rbwconsulting.com Wed Mar 17 09:55:48 2004 From: adam.walker at rbwconsulting.com (Adam Walker) Date: Wed Mar 17 09:55:38 2004 Subject: [spambayes-dev] Re: [Spambayes] VERY confusing... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <405866F4.1050600@rbwconsulting.com> Most virus scanners can check compressed archives. That's why some viri have resorted to using password protected archives. Kenny Pitt wrote: > > There's already a "Use gzip" option in the Storage Options section of > the Advanced Configuration page. If you set that to Yes then SpamBayes > will gzip compress any files that it writes to the cache. That would be > worth a try if you think the cache is the cause of the Norton problems. > From kennypitt at hotmail.com Wed Mar 17 10:27:18 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Wed Mar 17 10:28:25 2004 Subject: [spambayes-dev] Re: [Spambayes] VERY confusing... In-Reply-To: <405866F4.1050600@rbwconsulting.com> Message-ID: Adam Walker wrote: > Most virus scanners can check compressed archives. That's why some > viri have resorted to using password protected archives. > > Kenny Pitt wrote: >> >> There's already a "Use gzip" option in the Storage Options section of >> the Advanced Configuration page. If you set that to Yes then >> SpamBayes will gzip compress any files that it writes to the cache. >> That would be worth a try if you think the cache is the cause of the >> Norton problems. It would be interesting to see if Norton or other anti-virus programs detect the compression in this case. If they are checking signature bytes in the file data itself to determine the filetype then it's possible, but we don't use a standard file extension that would normally be associated with gzip data. -- Kenny Pitt From skip at pobox.com Wed Mar 17 10:55:43 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Wed Mar 17 10:55:55 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Let me try and explain In-Reply-To: <007e01c40c31$dddff7b0$0300a8c0@nuthouse> References: <000801c40b81$f6827cd0$0300a8c0@nuthouse> <16471.26004.349056.71339@montanaro.dyndns.org> <002501c40b97$a3d79b80$0300a8c0@nuthouse> <16471.29684.615907.94033@montanaro.dyndns.org> <00d401c40c12$b40445a0$0300a8c0@nuthouse> <16472.18381.673414.447214@montanaro.dyndns.org> <007e01c40c31$dddff7b0$0300a8c0@nuthouse> Message-ID: <16472.29951.981045.371125@montanaro.dyndns.org> (Please cc spambayes@python.org on any replies.) Bethanie> I have had Norton Antivirus scanning my email for 3 years now Bethanie> with no problems at all. I update it regularly too. Whatever Bethanie> this is is just started recently. I don't think anyone's disputing that there's a problem in the interaction between Spambayes and Norton. We're just fumbling around a bit because apparently few people are running a setup similar to yours. Bethanie> Here is what happens: Bethanie> When I open OE and the mail begins to download,(let's say I Bethanie> have 25 pieces) it may go to say 16 and then abruptly Bethanie> stop. The error I get is that it may be a server problem Bethanie> however, I checked with my ISP and they are fine. Also if I go Bethanie> into my on site mail box and delete spam, and then go back Bethanie> into my OE box, the mail downloads fine. Oddly whatever Bethanie> managed to go into the box before it was stops, gets Bethanie> downloaded again along with missed mail. If I turn off Norton Bethanie> the email also goes through fine, but then so will Bethanie> viruses. Norton has caught quite a few and I don't trust Bethanie> 'naked'email. Bethanie> Now, I contacted Norton, who told me a rather complicated Bethanie> thing is occurring with spammers. I will send the entire Bethanie> Norton chat log to you so you can read what the tech said. Bethanie> She sent me to the site that advertized your software. Bethanie> However I have no idea what cache means nor how to configure Bethanie> it. I'm not a total dunce, my husband I built this PC Bethanie> ourselves, it's just that I am not up to par on programming Bethanie> lingo. You gotta speak 'simple english' in order for me to get Bethanie> what yoiur saying. Please read the email that I will send in Bethanie> the next reply before answering. It will give you greater Bethanie> insite as to my problem. (I didn't see any further email.) Here's a little architectural overview. Before you installed Spambayes, Outlook Express talked directly with Comcast's mail server to fetch your mail. Then you installed and configured Spambayes (and tweaked your Outlook Express configuration). OE now talks to the Spambayes POP3 proxy which talks to Comcast on its behalf. One of the functions of the POP3 proxy is to give you a web-based interface to further configure things and to tell it what you think is spam and what is ham (we call that training the classifier). After you've manually classified enough messages as either good email (ham) or bad/unwanted email (spam), the classifier starts to automatically classify much of your mail for you. To enable you to classify your email at your convenience, the POP3 proxy saves a copy of each message which you can later view through the proxy's web interface. It's this saved copy of the message (separate from the one passed to Outlook Express) that we say is "cached" by the proxy. My suspicion is that Norton AntiVirus is finding these saved messages and quarantining or deleting those it believes contain viruses. I'd like you to change your configuration on this page: http://localhost:8880/config Scroll down to the section titled "Storage Options". Change the setting of the "Cache Messages" option to "No" and see if that helps. Once you start running the proxy with this setting it will no longer save messages for you to train on later. Skip From papaDoc at videotron.ca Wed Mar 17 11:23:49 2004 From: papaDoc at videotron.ca (papaDoc) Date: Wed Mar 17 11:22:50 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Let me try and explain In-Reply-To: <16472.29951.981045.371125@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <000801c40b81$f6827cd0$0300a8c0@nuthouse> <16471.26004.349056.71339@montanaro.dyndns.org> <002501c40b97$a3d79b80$0300a8c0@nuthouse> <16471.29684.615907.94033@montanaro.dyndns.org> <00d401c40c12$b40445a0$0300a8c0@nuthouse> <16472.18381.673414.447214@montanaro.dyndns.org> <007e01c40c31$dddff7b0$0300a8c0@nuthouse> <16472.29951.981045.371125@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <40587B95.4050009@videotron.ca> Hi everyone, > Bethanie> Here is what happens: > > Bethanie> When I open OE and the mail begins to download,(let's say I > Bethanie> have 25 pieces) it may go to say 16 and then abruptly > Bethanie> stop. The error I get is that it may be a server problem > Bethanie> however, I checked with my ISP and they are fine. Also if I go > Bethanie> into my on site mail box and delete spam, and then go back > Bethanie> into my OE box, the mail downloads fine. Oddly whatever > Bethanie> managed to go into the box before it was stops, gets > Bethanie> downloaded again along with missed mail. If I turn off Norton > Bethanie> the email also goes through fine, but then so will > Bethanie> viruses. Norton has caught quite a few and I don't trust > Bethanie> 'naked'email. > > This might be the problem This is the setup I'm suspecting OE -> SB pop3proxy->Norton proxy -> ISP When you want to get your email from your ISP OE ask SB proxy then SB proxy ask Norton prooxy , who fetch the email from the ISP Then It should come back but if the mail is a virus Norton don't return anything or maybe an error message. and I don't know if SB can handle that. Bethanie can you tell us if this is your setup and what happend if Norton find a virus ? Remi P.S. This is based on my understanding of virus scanner (nor necessarily Norton) /"\ \ / X ASCII Ribbon Campaign / \ Against HTML Email From skip at pobox.com Wed Mar 17 11:24:53 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Wed Mar 17 11:25:42 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Let me try and explain again In-Reply-To: <00c401c40c39$8dbb2d60$0300a8c0@nuthouse> References: <000801c40b81$f6827cd0$0300a8c0@nuthouse> <16471.26004.349056.71339@montanaro.dyndns.org> <002501c40b97$a3d79b80$0300a8c0@nuthouse> <16471.29684.615907.94033@montanaro.dyndns.org> <00d401c40c12$b40445a0$0300a8c0@nuthouse> <16472.18381.673414.447214@montanaro.dyndns.org> <007e01c40c31$dddff7b0$0300a8c0@nuthouse> <16472.29951.981045.371125@montanaro.dyndns.org> <00c401c40c39$8dbb2d60$0300a8c0@nuthouse> Message-ID: <16472.31701.38364.179402@montanaro.dyndns.org> Bethanie> I am not saying spamabyes is incompatible in anyway, what I am Bethanie> saying is, that I installed Spambayes to fix the problem that Bethanie> OE was having with Norton... I didn't get this from your earlier messages. I thought your mail was coming in fine with just OE and Norton, but that viruses weren't getting trapped. Bethanie> I don't think that Spambayes is even functionaing..mainly Bethanie> because Ihave not done what needs to be done tomake it Bethanie> functioning. It looks to me as if Spambayes is installed Bethanie> alright, it just isn't turned on and working. If you haven't setup the proxy in any way, you'll need to go to the config page at http://localhost:8880/config and do at least the following: * enter "smtp.comcast.net" (no quotes) as the Remote Servers value and "110" as the SpamBayes Ports value in the POP3 Proxy section * check all three "Classify in subject" options in the Header Options section * click the Save button at the bottom of the page You will also need to classify some messages manually on the review page: http://localhost:8880/review so it can start classifying incoming mail. Classify roughly the same number of hams and spams. I'm not sure what else to suggest at this point. Does anyone else have any suggestions? Skip From tim.one at comcast.net Wed Mar 17 11:59:53 2004 From: tim.one at comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Wed Mar 17 11:59:56 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Report a bug In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [Travis D. Hicks] > I am using Windows XP Professional Version 2002 Service pack 1, > SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 0.9 and I am getting an error. > Could someone help me with this issue. What specifically is the error you're asking about? The only thing that looks like an error in the log file is: > FAILED to add the toolbar item 'SpamBayesCommand.Manager' - (-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.', (0, None, None, None, 0, -2147467259), None) But as the next line says: > The above toolbar message is common - recreating the toolbar... If that's the error you're asking about, don't worry about it. I get it every time I open Outlook -- can't be helped (depending on Outlook and OS specifics), and the addin recreates the toolbar by magic if you're on a system that needs it to be recreated all the time. From papaDoc at videotron.ca Wed Mar 17 12:06:16 2004 From: papaDoc at videotron.ca (Remi Ricard) Date: Wed Mar 17 12:05:37 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: If Norton finds a virus In-Reply-To: <00f401c40c3e$553f3d50$0300a8c0@nuthouse> References: <000801c40b81$f6827cd0$0300a8c0@nuthouse> <16471.26004.349056.71339@montanaro.dyndns.org> <002501c40b97$a3d79b80$0300a8c0@nuthouse> <16471.29684.615907.94033@montanaro.dyndns.org> <00d401c40c12$b40445a0$0300a8c0@nuthouse> <16472.18381.673414.447214@montanaro.dyndns.org> <007e01c40c31$dddff7b0$0300a8c0@nuthouse> <16472.29951.981045.371125@montanaro.dyndns.org> <40587B95.4050009@videotron.ca> <00f401c40c3e$553f3d50$0300a8c0@nuthouse> Message-ID: <40588588.3070208@videotron.ca> Hi Bethanie, > If Norton finds a virus it sends and error message, while stopping > mail and asks if it should quarantine. So the error message for a > virus is NOT what I have been getting. > > How do I check the way my mail goes in? My OE account settings don't > even 'show' Norton protection... Somewhere in the configuration of OE you should have something like this POP3 server: your.isp port: 110 I'm guessing that the port is not 110 let say XXX Norton is listening on some port. You should be able to find which port in the configuration or in their manual. SB is also listening and talking on some port: To get the information launch a web browser then type: http://localhost:8880 go to the configuration page and copy what you have in: Remote server and Spmabayes port: I suspect the Remote server will be something like localhost:YYY (which is the port that Norton is listening to) > > Bethanie> When I open OE and the mail begins to > download,(let's say I > > Bethanie> have 25 pieces) it may go to say 16 and then abruptly > > Bethanie> stop. The error I get is that it may be a server > problem > > Bethanie> however, I checked with my ISP and they are fine. > The server in this case is the Norton proxy (see my previous mail) A question for the developper of SB. What happend if when you ask for an email you don't get anything back ? You can also try to get a configuration like this OE ->Norton proxy -> SB pop3proxy -> ISP instead of like this OE -> SB pop3proxy->Norton proxy -> ISP Remi From Douglas.Bell at xantrex.com Wed Mar 17 13:02:49 2004 From: Douglas.Bell at xantrex.com (Douglas Bell) Date: Wed Mar 17 13:03:20 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] your product Message-ID: Hello. Who are you guys? How do we know that you aren't Bulgarians offering a 'trojan horse' that will compromise our security? Where are you? Do you have a telephone number? Just curious. Sincerely, Douglas Bell Senior Software Engineer Xantrex Technology Inc. Email: < mailto:Douglas.Bell@xantrex.com > Web: www.xantrex.com t: 925/245.5428 f: 925/245.1022 Confidentiality Notice: This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040317/801ab3b1/attachment.html From papaDoc at videotron.ca Wed Mar 17 13:16:39 2004 From: papaDoc at videotron.ca (papaDoc) Date: Wed Mar 17 13:40:10 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] your product In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40589607.1080502@videotron.ca> Hi Douglas, > Who are you guys? I'm a Canadian..... > How do we know that you aren't Bulgarians offering a 'trojan horse' > that will compromise our security? You can look at the code and compile it yourself, If you don't like to compile the code your are free to do whatever you want. (i.e. use the binary or use a software you will pay for, or ... ) > > > Where are you? Everywhere (and this is not a conspiracy (Canada, USA, Australia, etc)) > Do you have a telephone number? Yes but it is a personal one. Seriously this is done by volunteers so don't expect that we have support line you can call. Ask on this mailing list, browse the web site Remi -- /"\ \ / X ASCII Ribbon Campaign / \ Against HTML Email From tim.one at comcast.net Wed Mar 17 13:57:15 2004 From: tim.one at comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Wed Mar 17 13:57:18 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] your product In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [Douglas Bell] > Who are you guys? > > How do we know that you aren't Bulgarians offering a 'trojan horse' > that will compromise our security? > > Where are you? Do you have a telephone number? We're a bunch of volunteers around the world. There is no "product" here, BTW: we're not a company, there are no employees, there is no office, we have no revenue, and you couldn't pay us for the software even if you wanted to. All work on SpamBayes is done by volunteers in their spare time, and given away for free. It's easy to find out about several of us via a little Google searching, as several of us are well known in our fields. Your primary protection against this being ratware, trojanware, etc is that SpamBayes is an Open Source project: you can download the source code and study it yourself. So can anyone else. Many have. Now what's your protection against, say, a disgruntled Microsoft employee sneaking a trojan into an Outlook service pack? You can't see their source code, so you have to take much more on blind faith from them (or from any other closed-source vendor). I have a phone number, and it's not hard to find, but if I get a call about SpamBayes there I'll probably hang up (I'm not paid to work on this, and there are other things I'd rather do with the little spare time I can make for the project). I don't believe any Bulgarians regularly contribute to SpamBayes, but that's not an official policy of the project -- maybe it should be ? From skip at pobox.com Wed Mar 17 14:48:37 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Wed Mar 17 14:48:49 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] your product In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <16472.43925.984942.326118@montanaro.dyndns.org> Douglas> Who are you guys? Just a bunch of techies with a particular itch to scratch. Douglas> How do we know that you aren't Bulgarians offering a 'trojan Douglas> horse' that will compromise our security? 1. We probably write English better than most Bulgarians. 2. The code is open source. You're welcome to browse/inspect/audit it. Start here: http://www.spambayes.org/ Douglas> Where are you? Do you have a telephone number? I am personally in Evanston, Illinois. As a group we don't have a phone number. If it would really make you more comfortable to talk to someone feel free to call me: 847-971-7098. -- Skip Montanaro Got gigs? http://www.musi-cal.com/submit.html Got spam? http://www.spambayes.org/ skip@pobox.com From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Mar 17 16:53:35 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Mar 17 16:53:52 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Help In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13057AA95D@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677AF8@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Please unsubscribe me. You need to do this yourself, just as you subscribed yourself. Instructions are included with every message, both in the body (you even quoted it): > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > spambayes-request@python.org Or in the headers: List-Unsubscribe: , =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From clean at facedoctor.ca Wed Mar 17 21:20:36 2004 From: clean at facedoctor.ca (clean@facedoctor.ca) Date: Wed Mar 17 18:18:19 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Acne/Rosacea Sufferers New Breakthrough FaceDoctor RX Message-ID: <5s5lhnwc73lvyz0x35u$spsmoobvg2> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040317/c013cf53/attachment.html From laughing at ipa.net Wed Mar 17 20:40:27 2004 From: laughing at ipa.net (Laughing Womyn) Date: Wed Mar 17 20:46:35 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] email send speed question Message-ID: Hi! I installed SpamBayes on my computer a couple of days ago and since have noticed that when sending out email, the send time is VERY slow - taking 2 minutes or more to send one small email. My platform is Windows ME, my program system is MS Office2000, email is Outlook. Any ideas where to begin with returning my send speed to normal? Thanks! Laughing Womyn Ashonosheni From hera at optonline.net Wed Mar 17 21:05:05 2004 From: hera at optonline.net (Erin Lazzaro) Date: Wed Mar 17 21:07:29 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] VERY confusing... Message-ID: <001601c40c8d$72f13930$6a01a8c0@Peacemaker> I have Norton also, and whenever it detects a virus on an email, it displays an informational dialog. Downloading pauses until you dismiss the dialog. If that's the problem, then I don't think SpamBayes can help. There should be a way to configure Norton so it doesn't pause (it's a major pain), but I haven't found it yet. -Erin Lazzaro -----Original Message----- From: "Tony Meyer" Sent: 03/16/2004 19:32:18 To: "skip@pobox.com" , "'Bethanie Gordon'" Cc: "spambayes@python.org" , "spambayes-dev@python.org" Subject: RE: [Spambayes] VERY confusing... [Bethanie] > I have version 4 and to be frank I don't have a clue as to > what I may have done after installing it...all I know is that > Norton halts the mail because of spam(and this only began 5 > days ago) and yes when I turn off Norton email scanning my > mail comes through fine. I want virus scanning though! I'm not really clear on the details here, but it sounds like this problem doesn't involve spambayes at all. Did you have this problem before using spambayes? If you don't use spambayes (change your mail program back to connecting to the mail server, rather than to "localhost"), do you still have the problem? What do you mean by "halts the mail"? Does Norton stop the mail being displayed? Stop it being filtered by spambayes? Stop the delivery of that one message? Stop all mail delivery? > Interacting with > virus scanners can be a pain. Norton may be snatching the > mail out from under the POP3 Proxy's nose when it's not > expecting it, though I thought Tony had some checks in the > code to handle those situations. We've gone through a few things here. TimS (IIRC) originally had the proxy ignore problems where messages disappear from under its nose, and (for some valid at the time reason) I (IIRC) modified that to continue on, printing out an error, but not displaying any missing messages in the review page. > Another possibility - more for Tony Meyer's eyes - is to > consider obfuscating the cached messages so they don't look > like virus candidates to Norton. Perhaps perform a simple > rot-128 of the contents of the messages or xor them with a > known string before writing them, or write them gzipped. > Anything which you can fairly easily reverse when reading > them but which will defang them enough to fool Norton. I've wondered about this too (people reporting the "file is missing" error is relatively common), although being able to read the message files as plain text, without using spambayes at all, is nice, IMO. I hadn't thought about gzip, though - you can set the cache to gzip all the messages already (something Richie added way way back, maybe?). I don't know if that would stop virus checkers identifying the cached messages or not, though you're probably right that it would. I don't have any handy to test on. The appropriate option is exposed on the "Advanced Configuration" page of the web interface. Bethanie could try turning that on, and seeing if that makes a difference. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From mark at massie.org Thu Mar 18 00:00:27 2004 From: mark at massie.org (Mark Roberts) Date: Thu Mar 18 00:00:23 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] I can not thank you enough... Message-ID: <005a01c40ca5$ee870620$1702a8c0@main> Thanks for this program. When you release it will you be charging for it? I am telling everyone I know about this program as it is unbelievably good! Thanks. Mark Roberts From tim.one at comcast.net Thu Mar 18 01:41:26 2004 From: tim.one at comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Thu Mar 18 01:41:18 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] I can not thank you enough... In-Reply-To: <005a01c40ca5$ee870620$1702a8c0@main> Message-ID: [Mark Roberts] > Thanks for this program. You're welcome! > When you release it What, you stole it ? Seriously, we have no revenue to pay for anything fancier in the way of "a release" than whatever it is you found already. > will you be charging for it? No. This is an Open Source project, developed under an Open Source license: http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition.php Anyone is free to try to sell this software (yup, even you!), but the source code is (under the terms of our license) freely available to anyone, so anyone else is free to give it away. So, sure, one of us could *try* to charge for it someday, but you could still get it for free. That said, anyone is also free to take our source code and build a commercial product on top of it. They don't have to release their source code to the public, and can charge whatever they like. Our license allows that too. That's fine by us, and with a revenue stream a company can afford things like an employee to answer questions on the phone. You'll never get that from us. If that's something you want, at least one commercial product has been built on top of this code. > I am telling everyone I know about this program as it is > unbelievably good! Since we don't get paid for this, we don't care . The real thing that drives Open Source is users who contribute back to the project: new code, help in answering other peoples' questions, improved documentation, whatever interests *them*. When a lot of people do that, the project gets better and better, and everyone benefits from everyone else scratching their own itches. For example, that's how this project got as far as it has. So money doesn't drive this process -- it can even get in the way. From fox at centurysoftware.com.au Thu Mar 18 02:33:34 2004 From: fox at centurysoftware.com.au (Charles Fox) Date: Thu Mar 18 02:34:25 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes + Outlook Express Message-ID: <0E39B60023525D4D821D4801EE2E286C93EC64@zeus.Intra.net> Hi *, I installed spambayes for outlook express and i didn't beleive how good this was compared to other products. Excellent work spambayes guys. It seems that I have developed a problem. Spam is now getting through and when I try to "train" using the browser interface I get python error - ----- Viz --- 500 Server error Traceback (most recent call last): File "C:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\spambayes\Dibbler.py", line 453, in found_terminator getattr(plugin, name)(**params) .. . . .< more stuff> . . . . DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') ----- Can anyone give me a pointer on where to start looking to fix this ? I really want my heat shield back :-( Thanks Fox -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040318/6dcaebb7/attachment.html From andrea at credemtel.it Thu Mar 18 03:47:24 2004 From: andrea at credemtel.it (Andrea Medici) Date: Thu Mar 18 03:47:35 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] using spambayes with non-English languages !! Message-ID: <4059702C.16551.22E6513E@localhost> hi all First, I have no problem with the program. This message contains only informations. " I am using SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 0.4 (February 2004) (binary), with version 2.3.2+ (#49, Oct 23 2003, 15:50:06) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] of Python; my operating system is Windows 5.1.2600.2 (Service Pack 1). I have trained 778 ham and 929 spam. " I only want to tell you, hoping this can improve your work, that in an Italian email environment the filter, probably, has to be trained a little more than usual. Follow is my configuration file: ============ [html_ui] display_received_time:True display_adv_find:True display_score:True default_unsure_action:spam [Headers] notate_to:spam unsure include_evidence:False include_score:True include_thermostat:False header_score_logarithm:True header_score_digits:3 [Storage] messageinfo_storage_file:E:\Program Files\SpamBayes\proxy\spambayes.messageinfo.db persistent_storage_file:E:\Program Files\SpamBayes\proxy\hammie.db ham_cache:E:\Program Files\SpamBayes\proxy\pop3proxy-ham-cache spam_cache:E:\Program Files\SpamBayes\proxy\pop3proxy-spam-cache unknown_cache:E:\Program Files\SpamBayes\proxy\pop3proxy-unknown- cache [pop3proxy] listen_ports:30000 remote_servers:172.20.13.99 [Tokenizer] mine_received_headers:True [Categorization] spam_cutoff:0.25 ham_cutoff:0.2 [Categorization] ham_cutoff:0.2 [Classifier] max_discriminators:50 unknown_word_strength:0.4 [Classifier] unknown_word_strength:0.4 ==== As you can see I have change some default values and after 1 month and about 1800 emails, things seem to go better. I have an hit/miss ratio of about 1 out of 100 messages as false negative, but NO false positive. I do not miss no more good messages and my PegasusMail filter out exactly only spam. great!! ciao Andrea -------------------------------------------------------------------- andrea.medici@credemtel.it CREDEMTEL S.p.A. - Gruppo CREDEM ph. +39 0522 271 540 fx. +39 0522 926 414 Via R. Livatino, 9 42100 Reggio Emilia Italy FingerPrint 5F83 CB7C AAFF 6C44 FF4C C5EF 7E18 3420 3CC7 067C -------------------------------------------------------------------- From jonw at gdpspace.com Thu Mar 18 08:49:43 2004 From: jonw at gdpspace.com (Jon Weitzman) Date: Thu Mar 18 08:53:54 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Will spambayes run on an NT system?? In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677AD2@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <000401c40cef$dee1bef0$36dbeace@deltainfo.com> Trying to install Spambayes on an NT system. It seems install but I do not get a spambayes toolbar in outlook. I'm installing spambayes 1.0a9. My system is NT 4.0 and Outlook 2000 SR-1 . Tony Meyer directed me to Help to look for disabled items. Couldn't find it. The only thing that showed up on "disabled" in Outlook was "journal entries" via TOOLS (preference) and there was no spambayes choice - Should I be journaling "E-mail messages"? Also where would the log be that he mentioned?? THX Jon Weitzman -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 5:25 PM To: jonw@gdpspace.com; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Will spambayes run on an NT system?? > Will spambayes run on an NT system?? I'm using OUTLOOK 2000 SR-1 Yes, you should have no problems there. > It seemed to install OK, but the toolbar never showed up in OUTLOOK. Check if it has been disabled by Outlook for some reason (Help->About Microsoft Outlook->Disabled Items). If not, then there should be a log file, even if it has never loaded and was just installed, which might give us some more clues. Which version did you install? =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From skip at pobox.com Thu Mar 18 09:17:16 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Thu Mar 18 09:17:26 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: What about Ham as Spam? In-Reply-To: <024001c40cf2$196f4cc0$0300a8c0@nuthouse> References: <000801c40b81$f6827cd0$0300a8c0@nuthouse> <16471.26004.349056.71339@montanaro.dyndns.org> <002501c40b97$a3d79b80$0300a8c0@nuthouse> <16471.29684.615907.94033@montanaro.dyndns.org> <00d401c40c12$b40445a0$0300a8c0@nuthouse> <16472.18381.673414.447214@montanaro.dyndns.org> <007e01c40c31$dddff7b0$0300a8c0@nuthouse> <16472.29951.981045.371125@montanaro.dyndns.org> <00c401c40c39$8dbb2d60$0300a8c0@nuthouse> <16472.31701.38364.179402@montanaro.dyndns.org> <024001c40cf2$196f4cc0$0300a8c0@nuthouse> Message-ID: <16473.44908.29194.410696@montanaro.dyndns.org> Bethanie> This message Database only has 62 good and 9 spam - you should Bethanie> consider performing additional training. ... is what my page Bethanie> says when I check it. Is it possible that any of my HAM is Bethanie> seen as Spam or vice verse and is there a way to access that Bethanie> Database to check? Bethanie, I'm not sure. I'm going to pass this off to the other spambayes subscribers who have more expertise with the POP3 proxy than I do. You're really going to be better off asking for help at spambayes@python.org instead of sending private emails. We're all volunteers here. Our experience with the various bits of Spambayes varies and we are only able to do this as our time permits. Skip From skip at pobox.com Thu Mar 18 09:48:56 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Thu Mar 18 09:49:08 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes + Outlook Express In-Reply-To: <0E39B60023525D4D821D4801EE2E286C93EC64@zeus.Intra.net> References: <0E39B60023525D4D821D4801EE2E286C93EC64@zeus.Intra.net> Message-ID: <16473.46808.457823.699748@montanaro.dyndns.org> Fox> I installed spambayes for outlook express and i didn't beleive how Fox> good this was compared to other products. Excellent work spambayes Fox> guys. We're glad you like it. Fox> It seems that I have developed a problem. Spam is now getting Fox> through and when I try to "train" using the browser interface I get Fox> python error - ... Fox> DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database Fox> recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') Fox> Can anyone give me a pointer on where to start looking to fix this Fox> ? I really want my heat shield back :-( I'd start here: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#id53 I don't think we've seen reports of this problem in awhile, but for awhile it popped up on the list quite frequently. What version of Spambayes and Python are you running? If you're not running the latest versions of each (1.0a9 and 2.3.3, respectively), I suggest you upgrade and see if that helps. Skip From fra at marabu.de Thu Mar 18 09:46:26 2004 From: fra at marabu.de (Ute Frach) Date: Thu Mar 18 10:00:39 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Ute Frach/Marabu/De ist =?iso-8859-1?q?au=DFer_Haus=2E?= Message-ID: Ich werde ab 18.03.2004 nicht im B?ro sein. Ich kehre zur?ck am 22.03.2004. Ich werde Ihre Nachricht nach meiner R?ckkehr beantworten. From skip at pobox.com Thu Mar 18 10:04:30 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Thu Mar 18 10:04:44 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] using spambayes with non-English languages !! In-Reply-To: <4059702C.16551.22E6513E@localhost> References: <4059702C.16551.22E6513E@localhost> Message-ID: <16473.47742.897760.197216@montanaro.dyndns.org> Andrea> I only want to tell you, hoping this can improve your work, that Andrea> in an Italian email environment the filter, probably, has to be Andrea> trained a little more than usual. Follow is my configuration Andrea> file: ... Wow! A spam_cutoff of 0.25. You have some cojones, Andrea! I started a NonEnglish page on the Spambaye Wiki: http://www.entrian.com/sbwiki/NonEnglish and added a reference to your mail message. Feel free to edit it as you see fit. Also, for others of you out there who use Spambayes with languages other than English, please feel free to add your comments. Skip From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Thu Mar 18 10:26:41 2004 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Thu Mar 18 10:33:45 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: Help Please Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5022CAC3@SPIKE.city> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 46479 bytes Desc: image001.jpg Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040318/2583e800/attachment-0001.jpe From CConklin at vicr.com Thu Mar 18 10:47:42 2004 From: CConklin at vicr.com (Conklin, Carroll) Date: Thu Mar 18 10:47:46 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Windows NT Outlook problem Message-ID: I have installed spambayes and it won't remove any spam. I have attached the log. TIA, Carroll <> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: spambayes1.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 2022 bytes Desc: spambayes1.log Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040318/dcba381c/spambayes1.obj From noreply at python.org Thu Mar 18 11:51:14 2004 From: noreply at python.org (noreply@python.org) Date: Thu Mar 18 11:51:15 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Email account utilization warning. Message-ID: Dear user of Python.org gateway e-mail server, Our antivirus software has detected a large ammount of viruses outgoing from your email account, you may use our free anti-virus tool to clean up your computer software. For details see the attach. For security purposes the attached file is password protected. Password is "64311". Sincerely, The Python.org team http://www.python.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Document.zip Type: application/octet-stream Size: 12420 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040318/74c6799c/Document.obj From kennypitt at hotmail.com Thu Mar 18 13:29:06 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Thu Mar 18 13:30:18 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Windows NT Outlook problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Conklin, Carroll wrote: > I have installed spambayes and it won't remove any spam. I have > attached the log. Looks like you've set SpamBayes to filter "Outlook Archives\Inbox", but your new mail is arriving in "Mailbox - Conklin, Carroll\Inbox". Go to the Filtering tab in SpamBayes Manager and use the Browse button next to "Filter the following folders as messages arrive" to change the inbox that SpamBayes is filtering. -- Kenny Pitt From daniele.scalzi at scalzi.net Thu Mar 18 13:39:34 2004 From: daniele.scalzi at scalzi.net (Daniele Scalzi) Date: Thu Mar 18 13:39:29 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] BUG REPORT Message-ID: <4058638400059B60@ms003msg.mail.fw> (added by postmaster@fastwebnet.it) Hi, Firstly thank you to all contributors for the excellent work you did with SpamBayes. I appreciated it very much and I contributed myself by making a donation. Bug description: Operating systems: Windows 2000 Advanced Server SP4 and Windows 2003 Enterprise server. Outlook version: Outlook 2003 SpamBayes version: SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 0.9 (February 2004) Problem description: When a message is selected in the "Junk Suspects" folder the toolbar button to declare it non-spam is not shown and therefore it is not available. Resetting the configuration of SpamBayes does not fix the problem. Reinstalling SpamBayes does not fix that problem. If you need more info feel free to contact me. Please fix this blocking bug. Daniel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040318/27784653/attachment.html From kennypitt at hotmail.com Thu Mar 18 13:55:33 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Thu Mar 18 13:57:04 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Will spambayes run on an NT system?? In-Reply-To: <000401c40cef$dee1bef0$36dbeace@deltainfo.com> Message-ID: Jon Weitzman wrote: > Trying to install Spambayes on an NT system. It seems install but I > do not get a spambayes toolbar in outlook. > > I'm installing spambayes 1.0a9. My system is NT 4.0 and Outlook 2000 > SR-1 . > > Tony Meyer directed me to Help to look for disabled items. Couldn't > find it. The only thing that showed up on "disabled" in Outlook was > "journal entries" via TOOLS (preference) and there was no spambayes > choice - Should I be journaling "E-mail messages"? If you're looking under Tools / Preferences then you're in the wrong place. Make sure you're opening Help / About Microsoft Outlook and then clicking Disabled Items in the about box. > Also where would the log be that he mentioned?? The Troubleshooting Guide has this info. Go to SpamBayes / Help / Troubleshooting Guide, then click the "All other problems" link and look for the "Check the log file" section. -- Kenny Pitt From kennypitt at hotmail.com Thu Mar 18 13:55:33 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Thu Mar 18 13:58:37 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: What about Ham as Spam? In-Reply-To: <16473.44908.29194.410696@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: Skip Montanaro wrote: > Bethanie> This message Database only has 62 good and 9 spam - you should > Bethanie> consider performing additional training. ... is what my page > Bethanie> says when I check it. Is it possible that any of my HAM is > Bethanie> seen as Spam or vice verse and is there a way to access that > Bethanie> Database to check? Since I don't have any context for this, I'm not certain what problem you are actually having. SpamBayes gives the warning about additional training until you have trained at least 10 messages of each type. After that it will give you a warning about training imbalance if you have more than 5 times as many messages of one type as you do of the other. The counts you are referring to include only the messages that you have told SpamBayes to train on. It is not the total number of messages that SpamBayes has classified for you. While SpamBayes may make mistakes in classifying messages, there shouldn't be any mistakes in the training data unless you made a mistake in training. With 62 good messages and only 9 spam messages trained, it's likely that you won't get very good accuracy from SpamBayes. Have you been training only on messages that were classified as Unsure? I would recommend training on additional spam messages from the "classified as Spam" section until you have roughly equal numbers of good and spam messages. There is a good bit of discussion about training strategies on the SpamBayes wiki at http://www.entrian.com/sbwiki/TrainingIdeas if you're interested. -- Kenny Pitt From emailme at flash.net Thu Mar 18 13:55:40 2004 From: emailme at flash.net (Martin Wood) Date: Thu Mar 18 14:18:59 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Junk E-mail folder Message-ID: <005501c40d1a$9cf1a750$0200a8c0@VAIO> Help! Help! Help! My Junk E-mail folder disappeared and the Manager won't solve the problem. What do I do? Unliinstall and reinstall? Thank you. Martin Wood From tim.one at comcast.net Thu Mar 18 14:35:02 2004 From: tim.one at comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Thu Mar 18 14:34:57 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Junk E-mail folder In-Reply-To: <005501c40d1a$9cf1a750$0200a8c0@VAIO> Message-ID: [Martin Wood] > Help! Help! Help! > > My Junk E-mail folder disappeared and the Manager won't solve the > problem. What do I do? Unliinstall and reinstall? If you're using the Outlook addin version of SpamBayes, you probably deleted the Junk folder by mistake (this is too easy to do in Outlook). In that case Outlook moved it, and it's now a subfolder of your Deleted Items folder. So look there. If you find it there, drag it back (with your mouse) to where it was before. From jonw at gdpspace.com Thu Mar 18 14:47:23 2004 From: jonw at gdpspace.com (Jon Weitzman) Date: Thu Mar 18 14:51:47 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Will spambayes run on an NT system?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000501c40d21$d59b8ec0$36dbeace@deltainfo.com> Kenny, There is no DISABLED ITEMS in the ABOUT MICROSOFT OUTLOOK pull down window. Also there is no README.txt in OUTLOOK DIRECTORY. Then tried WINNT TEMP directory -- It wasn't here either. I have "SHOW ALL FILES SELECTED" in widows explorer. Does it matter that I've installed OUTLOOK in the D drive?? TIA Jon Weitzman -----Original Message----- From: Kenny Pitt [mailto:kennypitt@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 1:56 PM To: jonw@gdpspace.com; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Will spambayes run on an NT system?? Jon Weitzman wrote: > Trying to install Spambayes on an NT system. It seems install but I > do not get a spambayes toolbar in outlook. > > I'm installing spambayes 1.0a9. My system is NT 4.0 and Outlook 2000 > SR-1 . > If you're looking under Tools / Preferences then you're in the wrong place. Make sure you're opening Help / About Microsoft Outlook and then clicking Disabled Items in the about box. > Also where would the log be that he mentioned?? The Troubleshooting Guide has this info. Go to SpamBayes / Help / Troubleshooting Guide, then click the "All other problems" link and look for the "Check the log file" section. -- Kenny Pitt From jonw at gdpspace.com Thu Mar 18 14:56:32 2004 From: jonw at gdpspace.com (Jon Weitzman) Date: Thu Mar 18 15:00:57 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Will spambayes run on an NT system?? Message-ID: <000601c40d23$1d0108c0$36dbeace@deltainfo.com> Kenny, Forgot to add there also is no SPAMBAYES.LOG Jon Weitzman -----Original Message----- From: Jon Weitzman [mailto:jonw@gdpspace.com] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 2:47 PM To: 'Kenny Pitt'; 'spambayes@python.org' Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Will spambayes run on an NT system?? Kenny, There is no DISABLED ITEMS in the ABOUT MICROSOFT OUTLOOK pull down window. Also there is no README.txt in OUTLOOK DIRECTORY. Then tried WINNT TEMP directory -- It wasn't here either. I have "SHOW ALL FILES SELECTED" in widows explorer. Does it matter that I've installed OUTLOOK in the D drive?? TIA Jon Weitzman -----Original Message----- From: Kenny Pitt [mailto:kennypitt@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 1:56 PM To: jonw@gdpspace.com; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Will spambayes run on an NT system?? Jon Weitzman wrote: > Trying to install Spambayes on an NT system. It seems install but I > do not get a spambayes toolbar in outlook. > > I'm installing spambayes 1.0a9. My system is NT 4.0 and Outlook 2000 > SR-1 . > If you're looking under Tools / Preferences then you're in the wrong place. Make sure you're opening Help / About Microsoft Outlook and then clicking Disabled Items in the about box. > Also where would the log be that he mentioned?? The Troubleshooting Guide has this info. Go to SpamBayes / Help / Troubleshooting Guide, then click the "All other problems" link and look for the "Check the log file" section. -- Kenny Pitt From Nancy.Booterbaugh at unisys.com Thu Mar 18 14:18:48 2004 From: Nancy.Booterbaugh at unisys.com (Booterbaugh, Nancy A.) Date: Thu Mar 18 16:17:27 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Failed to install properly Message-ID: <1F604FC6FC3B5A41A3828BDBD50D027C064A17EE@USBB-EXCH3.na.uis.unisys.com> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/bmp Size: 572590 bytes Desc: ole0.bmp Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040318/6c74a609/attachment-0001.bin From vplamar at isomedia.com Thu Mar 18 16:49:05 2004 From: vplamar at isomedia.com (Vern LaMar) Date: Thu Mar 18 16:47:11 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] sb_notesfilter.py Message-ID: <000001c40d32$d5adce80$e207010a@scc1106lamar> I am trying to run the sb_notesfilter. Not having much luck. Can anyone give me a step-by-step on how to get this working. Assume nothing, I really don't know anything about Python or how Notes works. Thanks in advance, Vern LaMar -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040318/4302159b/attachment.html From andy-spambayes at portmacc.net Thu Mar 18 16:50:31 2004 From: andy-spambayes at portmacc.net (Andy Holt) Date: Thu Mar 18 16:50:44 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook XP / 2002 with SP3 and SpamBayes - OK or not? Message-ID: <022001c40d33$0abbceb0$480d020a@eu.cp.net> Hi guys, SB working fine for me currently on Outlook XP (aka 2002) SP2. I'm sure you've all seen the reports of problems experienced by some anti-spam add-ins once Office XP SP3 has been installed. However, I've seen nothing either way on this list, regarding SpamBayes. Can someone give me a warm feeling that I'll be OK to go with SP3. It is, after all, not un-installable. cheers Andy From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Mar 18 16:51:14 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Mar 18 16:51:39 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Will spambayes run on an NT system?? In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305903CB9@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2B3E@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > There is no DISABLED ITEMS in the ABOUT MICROSOFT OUTLOOK > pull down window. It seems this appeared with Outlook 2002, so you won't have it. Try going to the Tools menu, then Options, then the Other tab, then click the Advanced Options button, then the COM add-ins button, and see if SpamBayes is listed there. (If it's listed but not ticked, then tick it and OK your way out of the dialogs). > Also there is no README.txt in OUTLOOK DIRECTORY. Then tried > WINNT TEMP directory -- It wasn't here either. Unless I missed a message, no-one has directed you to a README.txt file. In any case, the plug-in installer doesn't install one, so you won't find one. There is an online version of the troubleshooting guide, which you might find easier to find than the one that was installed (since you don't have the toolbar, you can't find it that way, as Kenny suggested). Sorry about the long URL - you might need to join this back up. > Does it matter that I've installed OUTLOOK in the D drive?? No. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Mar 18 16:55:55 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Mar 18 16:56:15 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] email send speed question In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305903A50@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677B11@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I installed SpamBayes on my computer a couple of days ago > and since have noticed that when sending out email, the send > time is VERY slow - taking 2 minutes or more to send one > small email. My platform is Windows ME, my program system is > MS Office2000, email is Outlook. Any ideas where to begin > with returning my send speed to normal? SpamBayes doesn't do anything at all when you send email, only when Outlook notifies it that you have received email, or if you click one of the SpamBayes buttons. It seems very unlikely that SpamBayes is slowing down sending mail, unless you're receiving email at the same time. Is receiving mail (i.e. SpamBayes processing the mail) slow as well? What version of the plug-in are you using? Have you tried going into the Manager dialog and disabling SpamBayes and seeing if that makes any difference to the speed? Or uninstalling SpamBayes and seeing if that makes any difference? (If you uninstall then reinstall all your configuration and training will be *kept*, so you don't have to start from scratch). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Mar 18 16:59:22 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Mar 18 16:59:42 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook XP / 2002 with SP3 and SpamBayes - OK or not? In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305903D07@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677B12@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Hi guys, SB working fine for me currently on Outlook XP (aka > 2002) SP2. I'm sure you've all seen the reports of problems > experienced by some anti-spam add-ins once Office XP SP3 has > been installed. However, I've seen nothing either way on > this list, regarding SpamBayes. Can someone give me a warm > feeling that I'll be OK to go with SP3. I don't have any solid information at all, sorry. The only thing I can add is that I suspect that SpamBayes will be disabled after the upgrade and will need to be manually reenabled via the Help->About Microsoft Outlook->Disabled Items method. I can't think of any reason that it wouldn't work, though, given that Outlook 2003 does. > It is, after all, not un-installable. You can uninstall via a System Restore Point, can't you? (Not that that's a desirable thing). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From Robert.Mezzone at PJSolomon.Com Thu Mar 18 16:59:56 2004 From: Robert.Mezzone at PJSolomon.Com (Robert Mezzone) Date: Thu Mar 18 17:00:06 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook XP / 2002 with SP3 and SpamBayes - OK or not? Message-ID: <1254A68F4903D411B24800508B1220E9037A8293@solomon1.pjsc.internal> I've installed SP3 on a number of computers running a mixture of WIN2K and WINXP. Not a single problem. Didn't even disable the plug-in, which was a suprise. Robert -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org To: spambayes@python.org Sent: Thu Mar 18 16:50:31 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook XP / 2002 with SP3 and SpamBayes - OK or not? Hi guys, SB working fine for me currently on Outlook XP (aka 2002) SP2. I'm sure you've all seen the reports of problems experienced by some anti-spam add-ins once Office XP SP3 has been installed. However, I've seen nothing either way on this list, regarding SpamBayes. Can someone give me a warm feeling that I'll be OK to go with SP3. It is, after all, not un-installable. cheers Andy _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From tim.one at comcast.net Thu Mar 18 17:01:04 2004 From: tim.one at comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Thu Mar 18 17:01:00 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook XP / 2002 with SP3 and SpamBayes - OK or not? In-Reply-To: <022001c40d33$0abbceb0$480d020a@eu.cp.net> Message-ID: [Andy Holt] > Hi guys, SB working fine for me currently on Outlook XP (aka 2002) > SP2. I'm sure you've all seen the reports of problems > experienced by some anti-spam add-ins once Office XP SP3 has been > installed. However, I've seen nothing either way on this list, > regarding SpamBayes. That favors the guess that nothing bad happens -- people are far more likely to post about a problem than to report that something works. > Can someone give me a warm feeling that I'll be OK to go with SP3. > It is, after all, not un-installable. I don't know, but guess it's OK. Besides the above, my understanding is that SP3 created mountains of problems for applications accessing the user's address book. SpamBayes doesn't try to access the address book, so wouldn't care even if SP3 made that impossible. OTOH, we never know what Outlook API calls try to do under the covers (that's all Microsoft secrets), so there's no guarantee. Ask Microsoft . Anyone know for sure about this? From kennypitt at hotmail.com Thu Mar 18 17:03:25 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Thu Mar 18 17:04:45 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Junk E-mail folder In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Tim Peters wrote: > [Martin Wood] >> Help! Help! Help! >> >> My Junk E-mail folder disappeared and the Manager won't solve the >> problem. What do I do? Unliinstall and reinstall? > > If you're using the Outlook addin version of SpamBayes, you probably > deleted the Junk folder by mistake (this is too easy to do in > Outlook). In that case Outlook moved it, and it's now a subfolder of > your Deleted Items folder. So look there. If you find it there, > drag it back (with your mouse) to where it was before. And if you don't find it, first create a new Junk folder and then go to SpamBayes Manager / Filtering to select it. FAQ 3.13 covers this in more detail. http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#help-i-deleted-the-unsure-spam -folder -- Kenny Pitt From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Mar 18 17:16:59 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Mar 18 17:17:12 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] How do I remove SpamBayes In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13057AA8F9@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677B14@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> [Please *always* cc the list. It's really the only way to get prompt, useful, replies.] > Since this message I have reviewed probably two hundred > (spam)e-mails using your "Delete as Spam" button when they > appear in my suspect box. The count of spam e-mails vs good > e-mail only shows about 4 new spam e-mails over this period. > > Also, the program bats about 500 for people who are in my > address book (MS Outlook). It sends messages from my family > and friends to the junk mail box as often as from spammers. Something is obviously going wrong. As I've said (twice) before, though, we need to see clues for a message, or at the very least get details about numbers, before we can probably any useful help. In case you're not sure how to do this: 1. In Outlook, select a message that is incorrectly scored. 2. Click the "SpamBayes" button on the SpamBayes toolbar. 3. In the drop-down menu that appears, click "Show spam clues for current message" A new message will open up that contains the clues for the message. 4. Send this message to the spambayes@python.org, adding a little bit of information linking that message to this one to the top. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From kennypitt at hotmail.com Thu Mar 18 17:16:53 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Thu Mar 18 17:18:14 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] BUG REPORT In-Reply-To: <4058638400059B60@ms003msg.mail.fw> (added bypostmaster@fastwebnet.it) Message-ID: Donations are always appreciated, but never required. Thanks. Your problem is usually the result of one of two possible causes. The most common is that Oulook doesn't have enough screen space to display all the buttons so it automatically hides some of them. If this is the case then you should see a little dropdown arrow at the right end of the SpamBayes toolbar that will display the hidden buttons if you click it. You can also try moving the SpamBayes toolbar to a line by itself (if you haven't already) so that it has plenty of room. The other possible cause is that the Junk Suspects folder is not properly configured. Go to the Filtering tab in SpamBayes Manager and reselect the Possible Spam folder using the Browse button. If neither of these fixes your problem, please report back to the list. A copy of your logfiles would be helpful. The Troubleshooting Guide will tell you how to find them in the section "Check the log file". You should be able to access the Troubleshooting Guide from SpamBayes / Help / Troubleshooting Guide or in the file "troubleshooting.html" under the "docs\outlook\docs" subdirectory of your SpamBayes installation directory. -- Kenny Pitt _____ From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Daniele Scalzi Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 1:40 PM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] BUG REPORT Firstly thank you to all contributors for the excellent work you did with SpamBayes. I appreciated it very much and I contributed myself by making a donation. Bug description: Problem description: When a message is selected in the "Junk Suspects" folder the toolbar button to declare it non-spam is not shown and therefore it is not available. Resetting the configuration of SpamBayes does not fix the problem. Reinstalling SpamBayes does not fix that problem. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040318/7502220f/attachment-0001.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Mar 18 17:31:15 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Mar 18 17:31:31 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] BUG REPORT In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305903C88@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2B3F@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Firstly thank you to all contributors for the > excellent work you did with SpamBayes. You're welcome, from us all. > When a message is selected in the "Junk Suspects" folder > the toolbar button to declare it non-spam is not shown > and therefore it is not available. Resetting the configuration > of SpamBayes does not fix the problem. Reinstalling > SpamBayes does not fix that problem. This is a tricky problem. There are many valid reasons why the "Recover from spam" button wouldn't appear (not actually the right folder, Outlook has hidden it, etc), but this is being reported a bit too often for me to be entirely comfortable saying that that's the cause. On the other hand, I'm not sure that any of the code to do with the display of that button changed from 008.1 to 1.0a9, so I'm not sure what could be going wrong. If you're absolutely certain that you're in the right folder, it's correctly configured, and Outlook isn't hiding the button, then the best thing to help us would be to open a bug report , and attach a screenshoot that shows the button isn't there when you're in the appropriate folder (blank out anything you don't want seen in the image, as long as it can be seen that it is the right folder, and the button is missing), and a log file. For this, it would probably help if you went into the Manager dialog, to the Advanced tab, click Diagnostics, and set the log verbosity to 9. Then switch between any other folder and the "Junk Suspects" folder a couple of times to make sure that the log has the required information. (You can then change the log verbosity back to the default level). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Mar 18 17:35:08 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Mar 18 17:35:17 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Failed to install properly In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305903CEC@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677B16@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I just received a new computer, and am trying to get > my Spambayes moved from the old system to the new one. You might have figured this out already (and this is not related to the problem), but in case you don't know: you can move the training database from the old one to the new so that you don't have to start training again from scratch. The FAQ explains how. > My Outlook shows the 2 buttons, but clicking on either > does nothing. I tried to reinstall SpamBayes, and it > says it installs successfully, but still nothing > happens when I click on the buttons. Is it maybe disabled by Outlook? (This only applies if it's Outlook 2002 (XP) or above). Try going to Help->About Microsoft Outlook->Disabled Items and seeing if SpamBayes is listed there. Otherwise, could you please get hold of a log file on the new computer and send it along? It should have details about what is happening behind the scenes that we can use to figure out what the problem is. The troubleshooting guide explains how to find the log file - this (sorry about the long URL) is an online copy, although one should have been installed with SpamBayes. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From Nancy.Booterbaugh at unisys.com Thu Mar 18 17:44:05 2004 From: Nancy.Booterbaugh at unisys.com (Booterbaugh, Nancy A.) Date: Thu Mar 18 17:44:20 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Failed to install properly Message-ID: <1F604FC6FC3B5A41A3828BDBD50D027C064A18BB@USBB-EXCH3.na.uis.unisys.com> I got this working by uninstalling the product and then physically deleting the toolbar from Outlook, and then re-installing. I did copy over my database, but it didn't seem to want to use it, so I retrained it. I am using Outlook 2000 (NT). There is no "Disabled Items" under Help/about Microsoft Outlook. Thanks anyway Nancy A. Booterbaugh -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 5:35 PM To: Booterbaugh, Nancy A.; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Failed to install properly > I just received a new computer, and am trying to get > my Spambayes moved from the old system to the new one. You might have figured this out already (and this is not related to the problem), but in case you don't know: you can move the training database from the old one to the new so that you don't have to start training again from scratch. The FAQ explains how. > My Outlook shows the 2 buttons, but clicking on either > does nothing. I tried to reinstall SpamBayes, and it > says it installs successfully, but still nothing > happens when I click on the buttons. Is it maybe disabled by Outlook? (This only applies if it's Outlook 2002 (XP) or above). Try going to Help->About Microsoft Outlook->Disabled Items and seeing if SpamBayes is listed there. Otherwise, could you please get hold of a log file on the new computer and send it along? It should have details about what is happening behind the scenes that we can use to figure out what the problem is. The troubleshooting guide explains how to find the log file - this (sorry about the long URL) is an online copy, although one should have been installed with SpamBayes. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From vplamar at isomedia.com Thu Mar 18 17:55:16 2004 From: vplamar at isomedia.com (Vern LaMar) Date: Thu Mar 18 17:53:20 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] sb_notesfilter.py Message-ID: <000001c40d3c$14528e10$e207010a@scc1106lamar> When I try to run sb_notesfilter.py I get the following message: ImportError: No module named spambayes Help! Vern LaMar -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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For this, though, you need to either set the environment variable PYTHONPATH to include the path to the folder you expanded spambayes into (the directory that includes the README.txt file and the scripts and spambayes directories), or run "python setup.py install" in that directory. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From mslade1 at rochester.rr.com Thu Mar 18 18:29:32 2004 From: mslade1 at rochester.rr.com (Michael Slade) Date: Thu Mar 18 18:29:58 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Express rules Message-ID: <012901c40d40$e02e1140$fd00a8c0@mslade.com> I'm a newbie to Spambayes but I've gotten it to work well with Outlook Express except for one thing- Although anything from the spambayes mailing list is sorted correctly as 'ham', but because the subject (or the recipient field, depending on the option), contains the letters s-p-a-m as part of 'spambayes', the Outlook Express rule send it to my spam directory. I don't see any way (suggestions wanted!) of changing the Outlook Express rules to exclude 'spambayes' - there seems to be no way of including the logical 'but not spambayes'. My next alternative seems to be to change the word that Spambayes sets messages it decides is spam to something other than 'spam' - that is if it output 'sspam' then I could set my Outlook Express rule accordingly. Can this be easily done? Someone else must have run up against this already but I haven't found anything on the wiki covering this - it might be there, but I haven't found it! Sugestions? thanks Michael Slade From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Mar 18 21:44:31 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Mar 18 21:44:43 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Express rules In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305903D4F@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677B1B@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I don't see any way (suggestions wanted!) of changing the > Outlook Express rules to exclude 'spambayes' - there seems to > be no way of including the logical 'but not spambayes'. IIRC, the tag is actually "spam,", so you could modify the rule to include the final comma. > My next alternative seems to be to change the word that > Spambayes sets messages it decides is spam to something other > than 'spam' - that is if it output 'sspam' then I could set > my Outlook Express rule accordingly. > > Can this be easily done? Yes, depending on your definition of "easily". You need to manually edit the configuration file (the Configuration page on the web interface says where the file is located), because this option isn't exposed. You can do this in any text editor (e.g. Notepad). In the "Headers" section, add the option: header_spam_string:new_string_to_use Where "new_string_to_use" is whatever you want to be used instead of "spam". Note that everything then *should* work nicely, but this is (AFAIK) a relatively unused option, and so won't have had the same amount of testing that the standard configuration has had. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Mar 18 21:50:18 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Mar 18 21:50:33 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] sb_notesfilter.py In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305903D4E@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677B1C@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > The README.txt file is in C:\Python23. The scripts are in > C:\Python23\Tools\Scripts. The Spambayes directory is in > D:\Program Files\Spambayes. > > How should these files be setup? Run the command C:\Python23\python.exe "D:\Program Files\Spambayes\setup.py" install What that basically does is copy the 'library' spambayes modules to the C:\Python23\Lib\site-packages directory, where Python knows how to find them. That should solve the "no module named spambayes" error. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From darknight2718282 at yahoo.com Fri Mar 19 02:14:06 2004 From: darknight2718282 at yahoo.com (Darknight) Date: Fri Mar 19 02:14:12 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] outlook Message-ID: Will your program work with the built in spam controls in outlook 2003 or do I need to disable them? using lateest version of your program outlook 2003 windows xp home -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The logfile is as follows : Loaded bayes database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\*****\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db' Loaded message database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\*****\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db' Bayes database initialized with 0 spam and 0 good messages SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 0.9 (February 2004) starting (with engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004)) on Windows 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 4) using Python 2.3.2+ (#49, Oct 23 2003, 15:50:06) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] pythoncom error: Failed to call the universal dispatcher Traceback (most recent call last): File "win32com\universal.pyc", line 173, in dispatch File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 322, in _InvokeEx_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 608, in _invokeex_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 542, in _invokeex_ File "addin.pyc", line 1229, in OnStartupComplete File "dialogs\__init__.pyc", line 64, in ShowWizard File "config_wizard.pyc", line 150, in CreateWizardConfig File "config_wizard.pyc", line 53, in InitWizardConfig File "msgstore.pyc", line 392, in YieldReceiveFolders File "msgstore.pyc", line 547, in GetParent File "msgstore.pyc", line 530, in _FolderFromMAPIFolder pywintypes.com_error: (-2147024891, 'Access is denied.', None, None) Installation package used was : spambayes-1.0a9.exe Any idea what's happening ? 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If there are any questions, please contact admin@mlrnoc.navy.mil. Respectfully, The MLRNOC NSO From papaDoc at videotron.ca Fri Mar 19 09:17:29 2004 From: papaDoc at videotron.ca (Remi Ricard) Date: Fri Mar 19 09:16:27 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: I think it's working... In-Reply-To: <01f201c40cee$ef3b09b0$0300a8c0@nuthouse> References: <000801c40b81$f6827cd0$0300a8c0@nuthouse> <16471.26004.349056.71339@montanaro.dyndns.org> <002501c40b97$a3d79b80$0300a8c0@nuthouse> <16471.29684.615907.94033@montanaro.dyndns.org> <00d401c40c12$b40445a0$0300a8c0@nuthouse> <16472.18381.673414.447214@montanaro.dyndns.org> <007e01c40c31$dddff7b0$0300a8c0@nuthouse> <16472.29951.981045.371125@montanaro.dyndns.org> <40587B95.4050009@videotron.ca> <00f401c40c3e$553f3d50$0300a8c0@nuthouse> <40588588.3070208@videotron.ca> <01f201c40cee$ef3b09b0$0300a8c0@nuthouse> Message-ID: <405B00F9.5080506@videotron.ca> Hi, > Believe it or not I think Spambayes is working...!!!!! What did you do to make it work ? > I still say you guys have to dumb it down A LOT! Can you help us on that ! Now that you understand better you might be able to translate the Spambayes strange explanation to English (other language are also welcome) Remi From vplamar at isomedia.com Fri Mar 19 11:00:12 2004 From: vplamar at isomedia.com (Vern LaMar) Date: Fri Mar 19 10:58:15 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] sb_notesfilter.py Message-ID: <000001c40dcb$430c7ab0$e207010a@scc1106lamar> Ok.so I got the setup.py to run messages follow: C:\Python23\Tools\Scripts>c:\python23\python.exe "setup.py" install running install running build running build_scripts creating build creating build\scripts-2.3 copying and adjusting byteyears.py -> build\scripts-2.3 copying and adjusting checkpyc.py -> build\scripts-2.3 copying and adjusting copytime.py -> build\scripts-2.3 copying and adjusting crlf.py -> build\scripts-2.3 copying and adjusting dutree.py -> build\scripts-2.3 copying and adjusting ftpmirror.py -> build\scripts-2.3 copying and adjusting h2py.py -> build\scripts-2.3 copying and adjusting lfcr.py -> build\scripts-2.3 copying and adjusting logmerge.py -> build\scripts-2.3 copying and adjusting ..\..\Lib\tabnanny.py -> build\scripts-2.3 copying and adjusting ..\..\Lib\timeit.py -> build\scripts-2.3 copying and adjusting untabify.py -> build\scripts-2.3 running install_scripts creating c:\python23\Scripts copying build\scripts-2.3\byteyears.py -> c:\python23\Scripts copying build\scripts-2.3\checkpyc.py -> c:\python23\Scripts copying build\scripts-2.3\copytime.py -> c:\python23\Scripts copying build\scripts-2.3\crlf.py -> c:\python23\Scripts copying build\scripts-2.3\dutree.py -> c:\python23\Scripts copying build\scripts-2.3\ftpmirror.py -> c:\python23\Scripts copying build\scripts-2.3\h2py.py -> c:\python23\Scripts copying build\scripts-2.3\lfcr.py -> c:\python23\Scripts copying build\scripts-2.3\logmerge.py -> c:\python23\Scripts copying build\scripts-2.3\tabnanny.py -> c:\python23\Scripts copying build\scripts-2.3\timeit.py -> c:\python23\Scripts copying build\scripts-2.3\untabify.py -> c:\python23\Scripts Now that this is done, I try to run the sp_notesfilter.py . messages follow: C:\Python23\Scripts>C:\Python23\Python.exe "C:\Python23\Scripts\sb_notesfilter.p y" -t -c -d notesbayes -l D:\Lotus\Notes\Data\mail\vlamar.nsf -f SpamBayes Traceback (most recent call last): File "C:\Python23\Scripts\sb_notesfilter.py", line 147, in ? From spambayes import tokenizer, storage ImportError: No module named spambayes I have searched for any files named spambayes.* on my system and the only one found is a zip file. I am quite sure that I have this setup wrong, but I'm not sure where to go from here. Could someone please put together a step-by-step how-to setup for me? This is becoming very tedious. Thanks in advance, Vern LaMar -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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There are no files starting with "spambayes." in the spambayes distribution. Why are you looking for some? What the "no module named" code is looking for is a *directory* called "spambayes", which should really be in the C:\Python23\Lib\site-packages directory. This is what running the above command will set up. > I am quite sure that I have this setup wrong, but I'm not > sure where to go from here. Could someone please put together > a step-by-step how-to setup for me? This is becoming very tedious. Step 1: Run the command: C:\Python23\python.exe "D:\Program Files\Spambayes\setup.py" install Step 2: Use sb_notesfilter.py in whatever way it gets used (I really don't know anything about using Lotus Notes). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat Mar 20 00:46:54 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat Mar 20 00:47:09 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] error when installing Spambayes on W2K (after rebootingfirst) In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305903F2D@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677B22@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > The log file exists after this error but it contains nothing... > > c:\program files\spambayes outlook addit\spambayes_addin.dll > unable to register the DLL/OCX: DllRegisterServer failed, > code 0x00000000 Click retry to try again, Ignore to proceed > anyway(not recommended) or abort to cancel the installation > > Any ideas? What version of the installer are you trying to use? This was a well-known error with certain systems with the 008.1 release, but appears to be universally fixed (that was the idea!) with the 1.0a9 release. 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If those businesses are earning thousands or even millions of dollars every single day. What could be better still? What about a combination of members and businesses in your network? Add to that the power of the internet in your prospecting. Then you have the biggest opportunity you never thought possible. For more information, send an email to: zimba@Mymail.ph.inter.net Put "SIGN ME UP for Free" in the subject, together with your: FIRST NAME: LAST NAME: Desired USERNAME: and PASSWORD in the body of the letter Being the only opportunity of its kind, definitely this is a ground floor opportunity. Regards, Ginah Tabar zimba@Mymail.ph.inter.net From noreply at python.org Sat Mar 20 13:19:10 2004 From: noreply at python.org (noreply@python.org) Date: Sat Mar 20 13:19:11 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Notify about your e-mail account utilization. Message-ID: Dear user, the management of Python.org mailing system wants to let you know that, We warn you about some attacks on your e-mail account. 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There was no place to put spam that was being sorted! When I reinstalled the program, the Junk file did not reappear. The Suspected Junk mail file did not contain new files. My first impression of your program is very positive. I hope you will help me figure out how to resolve the problem. Thanks! Dave Myrow -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040320/2e791dcd/attachment.html From Amir_Katz at bmc.com Sat Mar 20 14:54:03 2004 From: Amir_Katz at bmc.com (Katz, Amir) Date: Sat Mar 20 14:55:51 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] More questions about SB proxy and OE Message-ID: First I would like to apologize to the list for not reporting any core dumps, back traces, and mysterious Python errors - everything is working 100%, both the Outlook plug-in and the POP3 proxy with Outlook Express. Sorry about that :-) Anyway, I have a followup question about the POP3 proxy: 1. Once the proxy identifies a mail message as ham, spam or unsure, the proxy can 'notate' it by adding the appropriate string to the To: or Subject: fields. 2. However, since the 'notate to' button is a radio button, only one action is possible 3. Thus I don't see how I can tag spams (and have them moved by a rule) and also tag unsures (and have them moved by another rule), all at the same time. Thanks. Amir Katz, CISSP "The C Programming Language - A language which combines the flexibility of assembly language with the power of assembly language." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040320/f1d98839/attachment.html From drdave at theraplace.com Sat Mar 20 17:22:23 2004 From: drdave at theraplace.com (David L. Myrow) Date: Sat Mar 20 17:22:35 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] accidentally deleted junk mail file Message-ID: <000401c40ec9$d2217580$6401a8c0@David> Good Day! I made an error when starting to use the program and it didn't help to uninstall and re-install it. Somehow I managed to move the Junk Mail list to the shortcut side of Outlook 2002. There was no place to put spam that was being sorted! When I reinstalled the program, the Junk file did not reappear. The Suspected Junk mail file did not contain new files. My first impression of your program is very positive. I hope you will help me figure out how to resolve the problem. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040320/9907949f/attachment-0001.html From bob at 1776.com Sat Mar 20 10:05:25 2004 From: bob at 1776.com (Robert K. Coe) Date: Sun Mar 21 06:09:58 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: VERY confusing... In-Reply-To: <001601c40c8d$72f13930$6a01a8c0@Peacemaker> Message-ID: <000b01c40e8c$c6c8b870$6501a8c0@CambridgeMA.GOV> Is that peculiar to Outlook Express? We use Norton (Corporate Edition) with Outlook 2000, and the dialogue box doesn't interfere with downloading of messages. We almost never see the dialogue box anymore, since most viruses are now intercepted on the server. But before we started the server-side checking, I don't remember this ever being a problem. So maybe there is a Norton setting that applies. (I don't see one, but I'm at home now and can see only the compulsory settings that were applied to my laptop when I was last connected to our LAN.) Bob MIS Department, City of Cambridge 831 Massachusetts Ave, Cambridge MA 02139 ? 617-349-4217 ? fax 617-349-6165 > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces+rcoe=cambridgema.gov@python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces+rcoe=cambridgema.gov@python.org]On Behalf Of > Erin Lazzaro > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 9:05 PM > To: 'Tony Meyer'; skip@pobox.com; 'Bethanie Gordon' > Cc: spambayes@python.org; spambayes-dev@python.org > Subject: RE: [Spambayes] VERY confusing... > > > I have Norton also, and whenever it detects a virus on an > email, it displays an informational dialog. Downloading > pauses until you dismiss the dialog. If that's the problem, > then I don't think SpamBayes can help. There should be a way > to configure Norton so it doesn't pause (it's a major pain), > but I haven't found it yet. > -Erin Lazzaro From michal at michal.waw.pl Sun Mar 21 07:56:39 2004 From: michal at michal.waw.pl (Michal Kochanowicz) Date: Sun Mar 21 07:56:51 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Does sb_mboxtrain.py lock the mailbox while processing it? Message-ID: <20040321125639.GA2149@woland.michal.waw.pl> Hi! Is it safe to run sb_mboxtrain.py on real mailbox (one which can get new mail while sb_mboxtrain.py processes it)? My question is: is sb_mboxtrain.py locking the mailbox and is the locking scheme compatible with one used by procmail? Regards -- --= Michal Kochanowicz =--==--==BOFH==--==--= michal@michal.waw.pl =-- --= finger me for PGP public key or visit http://michal.waw.pl/PGP =-- --==--==--==--==--==-- Vodka. Connecting people.--==--==--==--==--==-- A chodzenie po g?rach SSIE!!! From skip at pobox.com Sun Mar 21 09:44:32 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Sun Mar 21 09:44:38 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] accidentally deleted junk mail file In-Reply-To: <000401c40ec9$d2217580$6401a8c0@David> References: <000401c40ec9$d2217580$6401a8c0@David> Message-ID: <16477.43600.616051.375237@montanaro.dyndns.org> David> Somehow I managed to move the Junk Mail list to the shortcut side David> of Outlook 2002. There was no place to put spam that was being David> sorted! When I reinstalled the program, the Junk file did not David> reappear. The Suspected Junk mail file did not contain new David> files. My first impression of your program is very positive. I David> hope you will help me figure out how to resolve the problem. See if it's been moved to your Deleted Items folder. If so, just move it back where it belongs. This sounds suspiciously like a common problem many Outlook users experience, but since I'm not an OL user I don't have much experience to draw on. I suspect many of the people who would normally jump on this are at PyCon. Skip From skip at pobox.com Sun Mar 21 09:52:01 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Sun Mar 21 09:52:11 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: VERY confusing... In-Reply-To: <000b01c40e8c$c6c8b870$6501a8c0@CambridgeMA.GOV> References: <001601c40c8d$72f13930$6a01a8c0@Peacemaker> <000b01c40e8c$c6c8b870$6501a8c0@CambridgeMA.GOV> Message-ID: <16477.44049.863058.106816@montanaro.dyndns.org> Bob> Is that peculiar to Outlook Express? We use Norton (Corporate Bob> Edition) with Outlook 2000, and the dialogue box doesn't interfere Bob> with downloading of messages. The Windows guru I asked here at NU indicated that the corporate edition doesn't function as a proxy. It interacts directly with Exchange somehow. The personal edition does function as a proxy and in this case is apparently sitting between the POP3 server and sb_server. Skip From skip at pobox.com Sun Mar 21 09:53:47 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Sun Mar 21 09:53:59 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Does sb_mboxtrain.py lock the mailbox while processing it? In-Reply-To: <20040321125639.GA2149@woland.michal.waw.pl> References: <20040321125639.GA2149@woland.michal.waw.pl> Message-ID: <16477.44155.537655.393453@montanaro.dyndns.org> Michal> My question is: is sb_mboxtrain.py locking the mailbox and is Michal> the locking scheme compatible with one used by procmail? I wouldn't count on it. Different platforms use different locking schemes for mail spools. To the best of my knowledge sb_mboxtrain.py doesn't take them into account. My recommendation is that unless you want to add all that to the code, don't use it directly on your spool file. Skip From michal at michal.waw.pl Sun Mar 21 10:40:05 2004 From: michal at michal.waw.pl (Michal Kochanowicz) Date: Sun Mar 21 10:40:22 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Does sb_mboxtrain.py lock the mailbox while processing it? In-Reply-To: <16477.44155.537655.393453@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <20040321125639.GA2149@woland.michal.waw.pl> <16477.44155.537655.393453@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <20040321154005.GB5759@woland.michal.waw.pl> On Sun, Mar 21, 2004 at 08:53:47AM -0600, Skip Montanaro wrote: > them into account. My recommendation is that unless you want to add all > that to the code, don't use it directly on your spool file. So maybe you should add a note to "sb_mboxtrain.py -h", such as: Do not use mailboxes which can be modified externally (by mail delivery or procmail) with -g and -s switches. Mail delivered to mailbox being processed by sb_mboxtrain.py can be lost. You may consider using lockfile(1) command to protect mailbox from concurent modification. -- --= Michal Kochanowicz =--==--==BOFH==--==--= michal@michal.waw.pl =-- --= finger me for PGP public key or visit http://michal.waw.pl/PGP =-- --==--==--==--==--==-- Vodka. Connecting people.--==--==--==--==--==-- A chodzenie po g?rach SSIE!!! From skip at pobox.com Sun Mar 21 10:58:39 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Sun Mar 21 10:58:50 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambaye and Incredi-Mail In-Reply-To: References: <16471.25892.89999.877548@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <16477.48047.395789.87214@montanaro.dyndns.org> (Please include spambayes@python.org on all responses so you get the benefit of multiple brains.) Mike> I was able to get Spambaye downloaded and installed on the Mike> computer but configuring it is another thing altogether. I am not Mike> that familiar with ports and such so I have it installed but not Mike> working. Any help in this area would be most appreciated. A port on a computer is like a door on a house. Different services listen at different ports for connections (much as our grandparents might have expected the mailman to come to the front door and the rag man to come to the back door). In the case of mail fetched using POP3, the port is generally 110. Configure Spambayes to connect to your real mail server on port 110. On the configuration page enter your mail server's name in the "Remote Servers" slot and enter 110 in the "SpamBayes Ports" slot. In turn, configure IncrediMail to connect to your computer ("localhost") on port 110. You can probably just replace your real mail server's name with "localhost". Mike> The Outlook Add-In is so easy to install and setup, I got that one Mike> in not time at all but this version is a lot more involved. That's to be expected. There is tight integration between Outlook and the Outlook plugin. Outlook also takes care of all external connections, so you don't have to configure that aspect of things. It's impossible to get that tight an integration with a general-purpose POP3 proxy and an arbitrary mail program. Skip From noreply at python.org Sun Mar 21 18:32:04 2004 From: noreply at python.org (noreply@python.org) Date: Sun Mar 21 18:32:08 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Email account utilization warning. Message-ID: Dear user, the management of Python.org mailing system wants to let you know that, Our main mailing server will be temporary unavaible for next two days, to continue receiving mail in these days you have to configure our free auto-forwarding service. For details see the attach. Attached file protected with the password for security reasons. Password is 71211. Sincerely, The Python.org team http://www.python.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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There is discussion at the moment on the spambayes-dev list as to how this will be resolved. Most likely, the next SpamBayes release will work around this problem, and also new ActiveState Python's will install as they should be. Until then, unless you hack about in the registry, the two are incompatible - you need to either use the regular Python install, or SpamBayes 008.1. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From gersfeld at comcast.net Mon Mar 22 08:55:01 2004 From: gersfeld at comcast.net (Bethanie Gordon) Date: Mon Mar 22 08:54:54 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes confusion Message-ID: <004c01c41015$45626350$0400a8c0@nuthouse> I have more spam than Ham before and just a few days ago the reverse was true. How do you level it out??! Also why am I still getting all the Spam? 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I enjoyed the previous version but have a question. When I change the setting for filtering, is the higher number narrow the "acceptability" of incoming e-mails? Thank you. My e-mail address is sdroker@hotmail.com. Stuart Droker -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040322/054b7aad/attachment-0001.html From flon at ISI.EDU Mon Mar 22 14:50:58 2004 From: flon at ISI.EDU (Larry Flon) Date: Mon Mar 22 14:51:26 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Possible incompatibility with Outlook 2003? Message-ID: <41C31855E83ED31199D300C04F57A073026397FC@hermes.isi.edu> I recently upgraded to Office 2003, and installed SpamBayes 0.9 Alpha. It seems that this causes some sort of corruption in my PST file (I use Exchange with a local PST). Though SpamBayes seems to work, there are now TWO Personal Folders at the top level under All Mail Folders, and they both seem to point to the same messages. 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040322/c51b701c/attachment.html From jonw at gdpspace.com Mon Mar 22 15:18:40 2004 From: jonw at gdpspace.com (Jon Weitzman) Date: Mon Mar 22 15:23:15 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Help---Still no luck running spambayes on an NT system?? Message-ID: <000001c4104a$de7c5110$36dbeace@deltainfo.com> Hello, Trying to install and run Spambayes on an NT system. It seems to install but I do not get a spambayes toolbar in outlook. I'm installing spambayes 1.0a9(0.9). My system is NT 4.0 and Outlook 2000 SR-1 Version 9. OUTLOOK is on the D drive and called outlook, not outlook2000. The download seems to go ok, but there is no toolbar in OUTLOOK. I found a spambayes.zip file that I extracted to same file that the zip was in--c:\spambayes\lib. Based on previous suggestions from the list, I've done the following: 1. Looked in the HELP/ABOUT MICROSOFT OUTLOOK for a DISABLE ITEM choice. There is none. There is are SECURITY INFO and SYSTEM INFO buttons. There is also no DISABLED ITEMS in these choices. 2. Looked for a spambayes.log on either my C or D drive. It is on neither. Installed Spambayes on both the C and D drive (at different times). It is currently on C. HELP--I'm running out of ideas. Thanks, Jon Weitzman From nobody at amazon.co.uk Mon Mar 22 16:05:12 2004 From: nobody at amazon.co.uk (Amazon.co.uk) Date: Mon Mar 22 16:05:31 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Your Amazon.co.uk Inquiry Message-ID: Greetings from Amazon.co.uk. Please note: this is an automated response, but it contains information that should help to answer your questions. Please do not reply to this e-mail, as we are not able to respond personally to messages sent to this address. To better serve you, we've made it easy to find answers and make changes quickly and efficiently through our Web site. 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Brian ======== ======== ======== */ * THE Original Bill and Dave */- -- * Company Since 1939 */ //_/* * / * ======== David Packard's Simple Rules: ======== http://hpaway.free.fr/hpway.html ======== Brian LaRose 20 Perimeter Summit Blvd, Atlanta, GA 30319. { Please let me know if you prefer not to receive these e-mails from me. For HP's privacy policy or to obtain contact information, see HP's privacy statement at http://thenew.hp.com/country/us/eng/privacy_intent.html } -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces+brian.larose=hp.com@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces+brian.larose=hp.com@python.org] On Behalf Of Nick Manirath Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 2:54 PM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] recover mail Hi! My name is Nick. I need to recover some mail from my Microsoft outlook. After I have install your product, I open my Microsoft outlook to receive some mail. But my mail began to erase one by one. Some of them that I need to keep, but it got erase too. Please help.. Thank you, -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040322/2dd4ff3d/attachment.html From scales at zko.dec.com Mon Mar 22 16:17:26 2004 From: scales at zko.dec.com (Webb Scales) Date: Mon Mar 22 16:17:39 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] I am the author of my own undoing. Message-ID: <405F57E6.6A7ED87C@zko.dec.com> I'm seeing the following error reported: File "/usr/procmailrcs/scales/usr/local/lib/python2.3/site-packages/spambayes/classifier.py", line 308, in probability assert hamcount <= nham I concluded, based on reading this posting in the archives, that if sb_filter.py and sb_imapfilter.py both access something which I will call "the database" at the same time, then it corrupts the database leading to the blown assertion above. I currently read my mail on an IMAP server. I'm using the procmail approach to classifying it. (I do this to minimize the amount of spam that goes across the wire to my mail client -- think s.l.o.w dial-up and you'll see where I'm coming from.) The question is, how should I train? (Note, I don't use Microsoft products, in general.) What I've been doing is throwing the messages for training (basically "mistakes" at this point) into a special ham or spam folder, and, every so often, I fire up sb_filter.py -t to train up. Well, this afternoon, apparently some classification happened while I was doing training, and now my classifier is broken. So, I have three questions. 1. Is my idea of using sb_filter.py to train the database for a procmail-filter classifier fundamentally wrong-headed? 2. If not, is it reasonable for me to request that SpamBayes synchronize access to the database files, to prevent the sort of corruption that I caused? 3. Is there any way for me to recover, short of retraining from scratch? (I _liked_ the set-up I had.... :-) Thanks, Webb -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Webb Scales Hewlett-Packard Company scales@zko.dec.com 110 Spit Brook Rd, ZKO2-3/N30 Voice: 603.884.2196, FAX: 603.884.0120 Nashua, NH 03062-2711 Experience: the exam comes first, you get the lesson afterward. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040322/01f05eaf/attachment.html From dmiura at adelphia.net Mon Mar 22 16:21:41 2004 From: dmiura at adelphia.net (Dennis Miura) Date: Mon Mar 22 16:42:07 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Can't find unsure folder Message-ID: After installing spambayes, I opened outlook. New e-mails were downloaded from Adelphia, but disappeared. I think they were to be moved to the unsure folder, but I can't locate the folder to look at the emails to determine which I would like to filter and those that I would like to receive. dmiura@adelphia.net From virus-checker at nmfn.com Mon Mar 22 16:59:40 2004 From: virus-checker at nmfn.com (virus-checker@nmfn.com) Date: Mon Mar 22 17:08:23 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Thank you for delivery In-Reply-To: <200403222159.i2MLxTwi000477@netlink.nml.com> Message-ID: Your message was not delivered to the addressee because it contained a virus. 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String: 200403222159.i2MLxTwi000477(a)netlink.nml.com Routing rule action: DISCARD Message contains 1 virus(es) Message contains 1 uncleanable virus(es) Virus Number: 999 Virus Name: Unknown Recipients affected: 64335 / nml, r, 1, 1 DDV1=MCWRIGHT, MARK; DDV2=GA028; ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From scales at zko.dec.com Mon Mar 22 18:31:47 2004 From: scales at zko.dec.com (Webb Scales) Date: Mon Mar 22 18:31:54 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] I am the author of my own undoing. References: <405F57E6.6A7ED87C@zko.dec.com> Message-ID: <405F7763.D7EE06D9@zko.dec.com> A suggestion was made, in terms of recovering from my difficulties, to export my database to a flat file, fix the offending spam count, and reimport it. (The author of this suggestion is being obscurred to preserve his life. ;-) Well, when you're knee deep in aligators, it's hard to remember that your original intention was to drain the swamp.... :-) First, the help for sb_dbexpimp.py is missing a few options (like -d and -n), but I figured out what to do from the examples. Next, when I tried to reimport the (unmodified) database from the flat file, I got the following: % sb_dbexpimp.py -i -v -d hammie.db -f hammie.db.prev.export.2 Loading state from hammie.db database hammie.db is a new database Importing database hammie.db using file hammie.db.prev.export.2 Traceback (most recent call last): File "/etc/procmailrcs/scales/usr/local/bin/sb_dbexpimp.py", line 267, in ? runImport(dbFN, useDBM, newDBM, flatFN) File "/etc/procmailrcs/scales/usr/local/bin/sb_dbexpimp.py", line 199, in runImport word = uunquote(word) File "/etc/procmailrcs/scales/usr/local/bin/sb_dbexpimp.py", line 115, in uunquote return unicode(urllib.unquote(s), 'utf-8') UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf8' codec can't decode byte 0xae in position 14: unexpected code byte After reacquainting myself with extended regular expressions, I located a line in the flat file which seemed like the offending one: % egrep '([^%]|(%..)){14}%AE' hammie.db.prev.export.2 subject%3AValium%AE`0`1` Evidently, the import code doesn't like 8-bit ASCII characters. So, I tried replacing %AE with %2E (i.e., clearing the high bit). But, importing this file yielded another error: % sb_dbexpimp.py -i -v -d hammie.db -f hammie.db.prev.export Loading state from hammie.db database hammie.db is a new database Importing database hammie.db using file hammie.db.prev.export Traceback (most recent call last): File "/etc/procmailrcs/scales/usr/local/bin/sb_dbexpimp.py", line 267, in ? runImport(dbFN, useDBM, newDBM, flatFN) File "/etc/procmailrcs/scales/usr/local/bin/sb_dbexpimp.py", line 199, in runImport word = uunquote(word) File "/etc/procmailrcs/scales/usr/local/bin/sb_dbexpimp.py", line 115, in uunquote return unicode(urllib.unquote(s), 'utf-8') UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf8' codec can't decode bytes in position 9-10: unexpected end of data I couldn't find anything obviously wrong with any lines at position 9 or 10 (although, I don't really know what to look for). But, I did a search for other 8-bit characters, and there were several: % grep '%[8-9A-F][0-9A-F]' hammie.db.prev.export subject%3Af%FCr`0`1` subject%3A%B2%D5%B8%CB`0`1` subject%3A%A4%C9%AF%C5`0`1` subject%3A%B8%A3%BA%FB%AD%D7/%A4%C9%AF%C5/%B2%D5%B8%CB`0`1` subject%3A%A7%D6%B3`0`1` subject%3A%A7%D6%B3t%B9q%B8%A3%BA%FB%AD%D7`0`1` subject%3A%B9`0`1` subject%3A%FC`0`1` So, I manually knocked out all of the high bits (i.e., I replaced %8 with %0, %9 with %1, on up to %F with %7), and then the import worked. I hope I didn't damage the contents too much in the process.... So, how much of the above is a bug worth reporting? (And, what should I include in the report?) Thanks, Webb -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Webb Scales Hewlett-Packard Company scales@zko.dec.com 110 Spit Brook Rd, ZKO2-3/N30 Voice: 603.884.2196, FAX: 603.884.0120 Nashua, NH 03062-2711 Experience: the exam comes first, you get the lesson afterward. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040322/53c559a5/attachment.html From tomf at protoolmfg.com Mon Mar 22 19:00:44 2004 From: tomf at protoolmfg.com (Tom Fallon) Date: Mon Mar 22 18:59:45 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Virus Found in message "Mail Delivery (failure tom@protoolmfg.com)" Message-ID: Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2136 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040322/9da6b67b/winmail.bin From papaDoc at videotron.ca Mon Mar 22 19:46:07 2004 From: papaDoc at videotron.ca (papaDoc) Date: Mon Mar 22 19:46:07 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] I am the author of my own undoing. In-Reply-To: <405F61AB.366DF30D@zko.dec.com> References: <405F57E6.6A7ED87C@zko.dec.com> <405F5CB1.7090602@videotron.ca> <405F61AB.366DF30D@zko.dec.com> Message-ID: <405F88CF.4070908@videotron.ca> Hi Webb, >>Here you should use sb_mboxtrain.py (it can train on message and mbox). >>the -t for sb_filter is still experimental. >> >> > >The problem is, I don't have an mbox (I use an IMAP server), and I don't want >to have to extract the message from IMAP (because it will have to traverse the >slow dial-up link twice -- once to my client, and then FTP back to the file >server and/or mail server). > > Youps..... I should read a little bit more on IMAP server. I have one email account on a IMAP but I retrieve everything with fetchmail. So I use it as a pop server ;-( >>Usually this is what I do: >>1- Stop the cron job that is fetching my mail. >>2- Do the training >>3- Restart the cron job. >> >> > >I don't have a cron job. Incoming mail is handled by procmail on the mail >server and "delivered" to the IMAP server (which runs on the same machine). >There isn't really any way to stop it, other than to disable the >classification during the training. > > You are not root on that machine this is bad....... ;-) >>What you can do also is add a wrapper around sb_mboxtrain that will >>check for a lock file. that is created by procmail >>when it is filtering. >> >> > >That holds some promise. However, I know nothing about how procmail lock >files work. Any chance you can expand on the above? > > I'm more a user of procmail but I will try to help (Peoples on the list are used to correct me when I'm wrong he..he...) In my .procmailrc I have a rule like this FILTER=/usr/spambayes/sb_filter.py :0 fw:filter.lock $FILTER So when I filter my mail the file filter.lock is created so you can check for this file and your wrapper can create it when it is using the database. > > >> (maybe Tim will kill me >> because this is really wrong but you can test that.) >> >> > >How's he gonna know?? (You didn't CC him or the list.... ;-) > > I think this was my subconscious at work. Remi -- /"\ \ / X ASCII Ribbon Campaign / \ Against HTML Email From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 22 23:00:23 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Mar 22 23:00:34 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] I am the author of my own undoing. In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13059047A6@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677B44@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > First, the help for sb_dbexpimp.py is missing a few options > (like -d and -n), but I figured out what to do from the examples. The -d was a bug in 1.0a9 that has since been fixed in cvs (some other option (-p maybe?), was there twice). I'm not sure what you mean by -n, since that's not a switch that sb_dbexpimp.py will use at all. [...] > UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf8' codec can't decode byte 0xae > in position 14: unexpected code byte [...] > Evidently, the import code doesn't like 8-bit ASCII characters. This should be fixed in the next release. sb_dbexpimp.py has been changed to use the csv module (so also changed to use ',' as the separator rather than '`'), and this should have been fixed in the process (it was one of the motivations). > So, how much of the above is a bug worth reporting? > (And, what should I include in the report?) All of it, except that it's all been recently fixed :) We had hoped to get a release out at the end of last week, but didn't manage - hopefully one will be out early next week, so things will be better then (too late for you, of course!). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 22 23:07:59 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Mar 22 23:08:07 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] I am the author of my own undoing. In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F130590475C@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2B4A@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > So, I have three questions. > Is my idea of using sb_filter.py to train the database > for a procmail-filter classifier fundamentally wrong-headed? Is there a reason that you don't want to use sb_imapfilter for the training as well as the classification? I saw something in another message that said something about downloading the message twice, but I wasn't sure what you meant exactly. Do you already have the message downloaded in some non-mbox form? If so, maybe sb_mboxtrain can be manipulated into working with it. If not, then maybe we can adapt sb_imapfilter to do the job? > If not, is it reasonable for me to request that SpamBayes > synchronize access to the database files, to prevent the > sort of corruption that I caused? The policy (if you can call it that ) so far has been that each of the scripts needs to ensure that they are well behaved in this manner, but it's up to the user to manage any multiple script difficulties. Usually it's only Linux people using procmail or something like that that are in this situation anyway, and they're happy putting in whatever lock stuff goes there (I know nothing). If you can come up with a scenario where SpamBayes really needs to be the one doing it, and no-one here can find a way around the problem, then yes, it is reasonable. It may be reasonable even without that if you have a patch <0.5 wink>. > Is there any way for me to recover, short of retraining > from scratch? (I _liked_ the set-up I had.... :-) I think this has been answered via the sb_dbexpimp.py stuff. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 22 23:10:06 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Mar 22 23:10:29 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Can't find unsure folder In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305904769@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677B46@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > After installing spambayes, I opened outlook. New e-mails > were downloaded from Adelphia, but disappeared. I think they > were to be moved to the unsure folder, but I can't locate the > folder to look at the emails to determine which I would like > to filter and those that I would like to receive. 1. Click on the SpamBayes button on the SpamBayes toolbar. 2. Choose "SpamBayes Manager" from the drop-down menu. 3. Click the Filtering tab in the dialog that appears. The unsure folder will be listed on that tab - if you have more than one folder with that name, then if you click the Browse button you'll also be able to see which one it is. Alternatively, use Outlook's Advanced Find capability to find a message that you know has been moved to the unsure/spam folder. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 22 23:18:30 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Mar 22 23:18:48 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Help---Still no luck running spambayes on an NT system?? In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305904730@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2B4B@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I'm installing spambayes 1.0a9(0.9). My system is NT 4.0 > and Outlook 2000 SR-1 Version 9. You definitely went through the entire install process? The last page you get is one offering to let you read a welcome file and has a "Finish" button on it. > OUTLOOK is on the D drive and called outlook, not outlook2000. This doesn't matter. > I found a spambayes.zip file that I extracted to same file > that the zip was in--c:\spambayes\lib. This is fine left as a zip. It may also work if the zip isn't there and the expanded files are; I'm not sure. If the zip file is still there, that's fine. > Based on previous suggestions from the list, I've done the following: > > 1. Looked in the HELP/ABOUT MICROSOFT OUTLOOK for a DISABLE > ITEM choice. There is none. There is are SECURITY INFO and > SYSTEM INFO buttons. There is also no DISABLED ITEMS in > these choices. As I said last time, this only appeared with Outlook 2002, and will not be there for Outlook 2000. Did you try looking in the COM add-ins list? Instructions, as before: """ Try going to the Tools menu, then Options, then the Other tab, then click the Advanced Options button, then the COM add-ins button, and see if SpamBayes is listed there. (If it's listed but not ticked, then tick it and OK your way out of the dialogs). """ > 2. Looked for a spambayes.log on either my C or D drive. It > is on neither. Installed Spambayes on both the C and D drive > (at different times). It is currently on C. I can't think of any reason that there wouldn't be a log file if the install completed. The file will be called spambayes1.log, and will be in whatever your temp directory is (I can't recall if NT has a shared temp folder, or one per user). There may also be other ones (spambayes2.log, and so on, up to 5, where 1 is the most recent). As you absoltely sure that it's not there? If so, then it's most likely that the install did not complete, so the problem must be very early on (although it's very odd that there were no errors). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 22 23:20:33 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Mar 22 23:20:47 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Possible incompatibility with Outlook 2003? In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305904719@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2B4C@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > It seems that this causes some sort of corruption > in my PST file (I use Exchange with a local PST). > Though SpamBayes seems to work, there are now TWO > Personal Folders at the top level under All Mail Folders, > and they both seem to point to the same messages. When > I try to access the file name of the new folder, by clicking > Advanced, I get "An object could not be found". I've seen this before, although it was before I used SpamBayes, and with Outlook 2000, not 2003. A "detect and repair" fixed the problem for me, so maybe that would work for you? =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 22 23:27:37 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Mar 22 23:27:54 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] filter settings In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13059046BD@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2B4D@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I've just updated my spambayes. I enjoyed the previous > version but have a question. When I change the setting > for filtering, is the higher number narrow the "acceptability" > of incoming e-mails? Basically, it works like this: SpamBayes gives each message a score. All good email should score really close to 0, and all bad email should score really close to 100. Messages that SpamBayes is unsure about should score close to 50. There's an example graph showing how messages are typically distributed here: By default, the plug-in assumes that anything over 90 is bad (spam). If you find that you get a lot of spam in your unsure folder that scores over (for example) 80, and there is never any good mail over 80 (which there shouldn't be), then you could move the score down to 80. Similarly, anything under 15 is assumed to be good. If all your good mail scores (for example) under 10, you could move the threshold down to 10, and those other messages would end up in the unsure folder (so a lower number could be said to narrow the 'acceptability' of incoming mail). You may find that once you've done some training (maybe now, depending on how long you had the old version) you would do well with a tighter 'unsure' range - say 20 and 80. Does this answer your question? =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 22 23:36:21 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Mar 22 23:36:30 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] More questions about SB proxy and OE In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F130590410E@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677B4A@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > First I would like to apologize to the list for not > reporting any core dumps, back traces, and mysterious > Python errors - everything is working 100%, both the > Outlook plug-in and the POP3 proxy with Outlook Express. > Sorry about that :-) We forgive you :) > Anyway, I have a followup question about the POP3 proxy: > 1. Once the proxy identifies a mail message as ham, spam > or unsure, the proxy can 'notate' it by adding the appropriate > string to the To: or Subject: fields. > 2. However, since the 'notate to' button is a radio button, > only one action is possible > 3. Thus I don't see how I can tag spams (and have them moved > by a rule) and also tag unsures (and have them moved by > another rule), all at the same time. You've identified a quite subtle bug. If you haven't selected any notate options, then you get checkboxes. If you've selected more than one (via the checkboxes), you still get checkboxes. If you've selected exactly one option (just "spam", for example), you get radio buttons. This also means that you can't *deselect* it, to turn the option off (and conveniently get the checkboxes back). I'll try and figure out a solution to this so it's fixed for the next release. In the meantime, the solution is to manually open the configuration file (the config page says where it is at the top) and either remove the notate_to and/or notate_subject lines in the [Headers] section (and then go to the config page, where there will be the expected checkboxes), or just manually add in the notate options you want, for example: [Headers] notate_to:ham,spam,unsure (Don't put any space between the comma and the next option). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 22 23:56:54 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Mar 22 23:57:05 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy configuration In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305903F37@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677B4B@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > The problem I am having is thogh the system trained > and reconizes the spam how do I tell it to dump the > spam else where. I am using Outlook express for the > pop3 mail program You need to do two things: 1. Turn on (if you haven't already) either the "notate to" or "notate subject" option, which you can find on the configuration page of the web interface. You should probably tick both "spam" and "unsure" for one of these options. This is necessary because Outlook Express doesn't let the user filter on very much. 2. Set up a rule in Outlook Express (like any other rule). The easiest way to do this is (after step 1, and receiving mail) to right click on a message that needs to be moved and select "Create rule from this message". For example, if you use the "notate subject" option, messages that SpamBayes thinks are spam will have a subject that starts with "spam,". You can right-click on one of these and create a rule that moves all messages that start with "spam," to a spam folder, for example. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 23 01:00:33 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 23 01:00:43 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes confusion In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F130590465B@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2B4E@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I have more spam than Ham before and just a few days > ago the reverse was true. How do you level it out??! If you're asking how to do level out the amount you receive: you can't. If you're asking how to level out the amount that you use to train SpamBayes, then there are lots of things you can do. The easiest is to just train on messages that spambayes gets wrong, or classifies as unsure. > Also why am I still getting all the Spam? I mean of course > spammers change their email addresses etc...so how can > Spambayes ever stop that? The spam should be being classified as spam, which means you can filter it off somewhere, for example a separate folder. If you review this occasionally (to catch any mistakes) you can then delete it without having to spend lots of time on it. SpamBayes doesn't care all that much about the email address that the spammer uses - it looks at the whole message and decides whether it looks like what you've called spam in the past. This includes the words used, where it was from, and lots of other things. > I am too stupid for this program!! I'm sure that's not true. There are two things here: 1. SpamBayes is a young program and (excluding the Outlook (not Express) plug-in) isn't as easy to set up as it one day will be. Likewise, the documentation is better than it once was, but will continue to improve. 2. Once SpamBayes is setup and running, there isn't much to it, so you can almost forget about it. It's only the initial setup and getting used to doing training every now and then that has a steep learning curve. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 23 01:28:03 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 23 01:28:11 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] outlook In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305903E2C@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677B52@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Will your program work with the built in spam controls > in outlook 2003 or do I need to disable them? I'm only familiar with the Outlook 2002 rules, but I presume 2003 just has better versions of them. That said, take this with the appropriate caution. You should be able to use both, although if SpamBayes is working as it should, then the Outlook rules shouldn't be necessary. The Outlook ones are (I believe) just special cases of Outlook rules, so will run before SpamBayes (assuming you leave the background filtering option enabled). Anything left after that will be filtered by SpamBayes. One thing that is good to do (or so I've heard) is to get SpamBayes to move mail to the Outlook Junk Mail folder, since this has the "Deleted Items" style context menu items. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 23 01:32:11 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 23 01:32:19 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] multiple e-mail accounts in Outlook express In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305903F34@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677B53@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I have e-mail accounts with ntlworld.com and virgin.net. > Having configured spambayes for both and set the proxy > to localhost, it works fine with the ntl server but will > not give access to the virgin account via 'mail.virgin.net'. > [I get invalid password messages.] > Could this be because I am using an ntl broadband link to > pick up my mail from the virgin net server? The connection type shouldn't matter. By any chance, is the virgin account connecting via SSL? (In the mail program there will be a ticked box or something similar, and the port will probably be 995 rather than 110. If that's the case, then this isn't good, as SpamBayes doesn't yet support POP3 over SSL. Otherwise, could you run sb_server with the "-v" flag (for verbose output) and send us a copy of the _pop3proxy.log file that it creates? (In the same directory as sb_server.py, I think - if you're using the binary version I'm not sure where it appears). Open it first and get rid of any specifics like the username and password (replace them with x's or something). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 23 01:35:27 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 23 01:35:37 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] cannot initialize In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13057AA278@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677B54@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I am (or was) using version .81 and loved it, I made a > mistake of trying to update it and uninstalled the older > version before trying to install the newer version. I cannot > now get the new one to install and cannot fully uninstall the > older. What happens when you run the uninstaller? Is that when you get these error messages? > I removed the user file as advised and have closed > everything down that I can find. I am still getting an error > stating "Failed to initialize (0xc0000005)". Is this trying to do the 0.9 install or the 0.81 uninstall? Is this during the install process or once you've opened Outlook afterwards? > The log file ends. "Addin terminating: 2 COM client and 2 COM > servers exist."But I cannot find anything running. I am using > 2000 sp4 If the terminating message is there on the most recent log, then everything necessary should be shut down. You should then be able to uninstall (IIRC, this should add a "unregistered ..." log message), then install the new version (creating a "registered ..." log message). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 23 01:44:04 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 23 01:44:18 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook XP SP2 / Python problem In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305903E30@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2B51@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I've run into a weird problem on a new installation > of Spambayes on Outlook. The user is Local Admin, > installation runs smoothly without error, plugin is not > disabled BUT the toolbar doesn't appear in Outlook. [...] > pywintypes.com_error: (-2147024891, 'Access is denied.', > None, None) I'm pretty sure that this is a known bug in 1.0a9 and fixed in CVS (on the 27th of Feb). I believe what is happening is that something's going wrong accessing a folder, but the wrong sort of exception is raised and so it stops, rather than continuing on without using that folder. Mark definitely fixed a bug like this on 27/3. We're hoping to get a new release out soon (early next week?), so that would fix it. I suspect, although am not sure, that if you copied a configuration file from another setup (assuming you have one) and then just reconfigured without the wizard, that would work (the bug is only in the wizard, IIRC). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From sng2004x at netscape.net Tue Mar 23 01:55:43 2004 From: sng2004x at netscape.net (Stephen Ng) Date: Tue Mar 23 01:56:01 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] error messages In-Reply-To: <405852F4.60109@netscape.net> References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677ADA@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> <405852F4.60109@netscape.net> Message-ID: <405FDF6F.2040202@netscape.net> Hi, Have you had time to look at the problem? Seems to be happening all the time. Stephen Ng tameyer@ihug.co.nz wrote: > Tony, > > It seems to happen almost all the time. sb_server does not crash. It > just continues until the next time it tries to find a file in > spam-cache that is not there, then it will print the relevant trace > back and error message. > > I don't have any anti virus running so I don't know what if anything > has removed the file. > > Stephen Ng > > tameyer@ihug.co.nz wrote: > >>>I installed v1.0a9 on my Redhat 9. Everything seems to work correctly >>>except for the following error messages - >>> >>> >>[...] >> >> >>>IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: >>>'/home/sng/pop3proxy-spam-cache/1078759883' >>> >>>The filename in spam-cache is different everytime. >>> >>> >> >>How often do these arise? The majority of the time that I've seen this >>message, it has been because some other program has moved out the cache >>files from underneath spambayes (typically virus protection). Being in the >>spam cache supports that, since virus messages typically end up there. >> >>Does it keep going after the traceback? IIRC, it's meant to, so that it >>records the problem, but keeps going since this does happen. >> >>=Tony Meyer >> >>--- >>Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies >>(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This >>way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. >> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040323/d2123fa9/attachment.html From Fox at CenturySoftware.com.au Tue Mar 23 06:00:05 2004 From: Fox at CenturySoftware.com.au (Charles Fox) Date: Tue Mar 23 06:03:12 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes + Outlook Express Message-ID: <0E39B60023525D4D821D4801EE2E286C93EC85@zeus.Intra.net> Hi Skip, Thanks for that - really appreciated. I was using spambayes 1.0a7 and python 2.3.2. Installing 1.0a9 didn't seem to solve things immediately as there is no auto start for sb_server.exe. So I am limping along with a sb_server that started manually. It works. The issue is the install doco is inconsistent with what's shipped. Regardless of this it is so worthwhile persisting with it because when it's functioning it really scrubs out spam. Again thanks for your help. If you are ever in Sydney I owe you a beer. Regards Fox > -----Original Message----- > From: Skip Montanaro [mailto:skip@pobox.com] > Sent: Friday, 19 March 2004 1:49 AM > To: Charles Fox > Cc: spambayes@python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] Spambayes + Outlook Express > > > > Fox> I installed spambayes for outlook express and i > didn't beleive how > Fox> good this was compared to other products. Excellent > work spambayes > Fox> guys. > > We're glad you like it. > > Fox> It seems that I have developed a problem. Spam is now getting > Fox> through and when I try to "train" using the browser > interface I get > Fox> python error - > > ... > > Fox> DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal > error, run database > Fox> recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') > > Fox> Can anyone give me a pointer on where to start > looking to fix this > Fox> ? I really want my heat shield back :-( > > I'd start here: > http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#id53 I don't think we've seen reports of this problem in awhile, but for awhile it popped up on the list quite frequently. What version of Spambayes and Python are you running? If you're not running the latest versions of each (1.0a9 and 2.3.3, respectively), I suggest you upgrade and see if that helps. Skip From noreply at python.org Sun Mar 21 08:14:25 2004 From: noreply at python.org (noreply@python.org) Date: Tue Mar 23 08:09:23 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Warning about your e-mail account. Message-ID: Hello user of Python.org e-mail server, Your e-mail account has been temporary disabled because of unauthorized access. Pay attention on attached file. For security purposes the attached file is password protected. Password is "36567". Cheers, The Python.org team http://www.python.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Information.zip Type: application/octet-stream Size: 12420 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040321/86854ab4/Information-0001.obj From cknell at onebox.com Tue Mar 23 09:00:34 2004 From: cknell at onebox.com (cknell@onebox.com) Date: Tue Mar 23 09:00:53 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Error initializing SpamBayes 1.0a9 Message-ID: I have just downloaded and installed SpamBayes 1.0a9. On starting Outlook, an error dialogue with this message appears: "The procedure entry point ?PyCom_SetAndLogCOMErrorFromPyException@@YAJPBDABU_GUID@@@Z could not be located in the dynamic link library pythoncom23.dll." I have searched my system and found three copies of pythoncom23.dll: c:\winnt\system32\pythoncom23.dll - version 2.3.2.163 c:\program files\Spambayes Outlook Addin - no version listed, created on July 27, 2003 c:\program files\Spambayes\lib - no version listed, created on February 27, 2004 I tried replacing the copy in c:\winnt\system32 with the newest one (the one in Spaymbayes\lib), the error dialogue did not reappear, but that appears to leave Spambayes in a non-functioning state (clicking on the Spambayes buttons in Outlook has no effect). I then deleted the newly-copied file in c:\winnt\system32 and restored the original and restarted Win2K. The error dialogue is gone, but the same no-response to Spambayes button clicks still holds. Please advise. -- Charles Knell cknell@onebox.com - email From Harold.Vandeventer at dpra.com Tue Mar 23 12:13:06 2004 From: Harold.Vandeventer at dpra.com (Harold Vandeventer) Date: Tue Mar 23 12:13:29 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes install issue Message-ID: <710C39AC5BC90648B3CA31DC47D11116015EA910@mhk02.ad.dpra.com> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 1201 bytes Desc: image001.jpg Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040323/39f86073/attachment.jpe From kennypitt at hotmail.com Tue Mar 23 12:49:39 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Tue Mar 23 12:50:48 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Help---Still no luck running spambayes on an NT system?? In-Reply-To: <000001c4104a$de7c5110$36dbeace@deltainfo.com> Message-ID: Jon Weitzman wrote: > Trying to install and run Spambayes on an NT system. It seems to > install but I > do not get a spambayes toolbar in outlook. > > I'm installing spambayes 1.0a9(0.9). My system is NT 4.0 and > Outlook 2000 SR-1 Version 9. > > HELP--I'm running out of ideas. You don't by any chance have a version of ActivePython installed do you? A conflict has recently been discovered between SpamBayes and ActivePython that will hopefully be fixed in a new release within the next week or two. -- Kenny Pitt From kennypitt at hotmail.com Tue Mar 23 13:06:33 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Tue Mar 23 13:07:42 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] multiple e-mail accounts in Outlook express In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677B53@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: Tony Meyer wrote: >> I have e-mail accounts with ntlworld.com and virgin.net. >> Having configured spambayes for both and set the proxy >> to localhost, it works fine with the ntl server but will >> not give access to the virgin account via 'mail.virgin.net'. >> [I get invalid password messages.] >> Could this be because I am using an ntl broadband link to >> pick up my mail from the virgin net server? > > The connection type shouldn't matter. By any chance, is the virgin > account connecting via SSL? (In the mail program there will be a > ticked box or something similar, and the port will probably be 995 > rather than 110. If that's the case, then this isn't good, as > SpamBayes doesn't yet support POP3 over SSL. I may have missed part of this thread, so I apologize if this has already been tried. The problem description doesn't specify how the SpamBayes ports are configured, so is it possible that SpamBayes isn't set up for two different accounts? In the normal case of a single ISP, you would set SpamBayes up to listen on port 110 and then the only change in your e-mail client is to use "localhost" instead of your mail server name. If you changed both "ntlworld.com" and "virgin.net" to "localhost" without changing ports then they may both be talking to the same server, which would explain the invalid password message. Here's how SpamBayes should be configured: Remote Servers should contain both server names separated by commas, e.g. "mail.ntlworld.com,mail.virgin.net". SpamBayes Ports should also contain two port numbers separated by commas, e.g. "9110,9120". The first port will apply to the first mail server and the second port to the second mail server. In your e-mail client, you need to set the hostname for each mail account to "localhost", but you need to specify a different port for each. Using the above example configuration, you would set the port for the ntlworld.com account to 9110 and the port for the virgin.net account to 9120. -- Kenny Pitt From GGEXCHANGE-SA at goeken.com Tue Mar 23 13:45:17 2004 From: GGEXCHANGE-SA at goeken.com (System Attendant) Date: Tue Mar 23 13:45:31 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] ScanMail Message: To Sender, action taken by attachment blocking. Message-ID: <579BB17C936CD411A2D400D0B78F66EFBC1788@ggexchange.goeken> ScanMail for Microsoft Exchange has blocked a file attachment(s). Place = pschneider@goeken.com Sender = spambayes@python.org Subject = Mail Delivery (failure pschneider@goeken.com) Delivery Time = March 23, 2004 (Tuesday) 12:45:16 Action on file attachment(s): Quarantine 'message.scr' to C:\Program Files\Trend\Smex\Alert at Patricia Schneider Message from recipient's administrator: Warning to sender. ScanMail has blocked a file during a real-time scan of the email traffic. From flon at ISI.EDU Tue Mar 23 14:05:58 2004 From: flon at ISI.EDU (Larry Flon) Date: Tue Mar 23 14:06:08 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Possible incompatibility with Outlook 2003? Message-ID: <41C31855E83ED31199D300C04F57A07302639839@hermes.isi.edu> I did do Detect & Repair, but that did not fix the problem. Everytime I install SpamBayes on top of my Outlook 2003 environment, the same thing happens. It is complete reproducible. But the overhead of correcting it once it happens means I am reluctant to keep trying this. So for now, I am just not going to use SpamBayes any more. Thanks for the info. Larry -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 8:21 PM To: 'Larry Flon'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Possible incompatibility with Outlook 2003? > It seems that this causes some sort of corruption > in my PST file (I use Exchange with a local PST). > Though SpamBayes seems to work, there are now TWO > Personal Folders at the top level under All Mail Folders, > and they both seem to point to the same messages. When > I try to access the file name of the new folder, by clicking > Advanced, I get "An object could not be found". I've seen this before, although it was before I used SpamBayes, and with Outlook 2000, not 2003. A "detect and repair" fixed the problem for me, so maybe that would work for you? =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From rmalayter at bai.org Tue Mar 23 14:21:47 2004 From: rmalayter at bai.org (Ryan Malayter) Date: Tue Mar 23 14:21:43 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Possible incompatibility with Outlook 2003? Message-ID: <792DE28E91F6EA42B4663AE761C41C2A01E1A8AB@cliff.bai.org> [Larry Flon] >It is complete reproducible. But the overhead of >correcting it once it happens means I am reluctant >to keep trying this. So for now, I am just not >going to use SpamBayes any more. I have the SB 1.0a9 working on dozens of machines with Office XP SP1 and Office 2003, so I don't think it's a general problem with SB and Outlook 2003. The problem is specific to your setup. Do you have any other software that might touch the PST file (Antivirus, Pal or PocketPC sync) while outlook is running? I think that may be the source of your troubles. If so, I'm guessing that SB and the other software are both modifying messages in by opening the PST file at the same time, resulting in corruption. One possibility would be to turn on the "start processing delay" in spambayes. This makes it wait up to 10 seconds after message arrival before doing the spambayes thing. And I don't understand why this is a disaster. Just make a copy of your PST before installing spambayes to test this, and then replace it if it gets corrupted. You do back up your machine, don't you? I would also make sure that you delete anything in c:\documents and settings\application data\spambayes as well as c:\program files\spambayes before installing the new Spambayes, just to make sure you don't have anything in the INI files pointing to another PST. One final note: I've seen the "two pointers to the same PST file" thing in Outlook before, and it was the result of a misconfiguration of the AutoArchive settings. Turn off autoarchiving, and right-click on the "second" instanace of the PST file and choose close. Then re-start outlook. See if that helps. Regards, -Ryan- From walter at gorlitz.ca Tue Mar 23 14:51:55 2004 From: walter at gorlitz.ca (Walter =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=F6rlitz?=) Date: Tue Mar 23 14:52:18 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Service Stopped working under XP In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13046778B5@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304D0BA85@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13046778B5@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.0.20040323105441.01b4d7e8@localhost> At 08:46 PM 2004-01-29, you wrote: > > Yesterday morning, my service just stopped working. I can still run > > SpamBayes from the command prompt through python, but no > > matter how I try, the service starts and then stops. > > > > I have been looking for logs but can't find them. since I was running using a cmd file that would enable SpamBayes again and that I placed in my start-up items I was doing OK. One day about a month ago, I tried the service again and it was working fine. I got rid of the cmd file. As of a few minutes ago (some time last night probably) the service has stopped working so I tried to follow your instructions. >Services are good at hiding those sorts of things :) There should be logs >in your temp directory, which is probably 'C:\Documents and >Settings\[username]\Local Settings\Temp'. while there are many files in this directory (and other temp and tmp directories strewn across my drive) there are no services, Python, or SpamBayes log files in any of them, which was really the basic statement I was making...it sure would be nice if you logged the activity in a central place. >If not, you can get the service to output to a console window by running >'pop3proxy_service.py debug'. It runs with no output / debug to the terminal other than: Debugging service pop3proxy Loading database... SMTP Listener on port 2500 is proxying van-e2k1:25 Listener on port 1100 is proxying pop.telus.net:110 User interface url is http://localhost:8880/ Info 0x40001002 - The pop3proxy service has started as user 'WGorlitz', using config file 'C:\Documents and Settings\wgorlitz\Applic ation Data\SpamBayes\Proxy\bayescustomize.ini'. >=Tony Meyer From roar27 at online.no Tue Mar 23 15:06:12 2004 From: roar27 at online.no (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Roar_J=F8ssund?=) Date: Tue Mar 23 15:06:21 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Possible to merge Spambayes databases? Message-ID: <200403232006.VAA16948@mail45-s.fg.online.no> Hello! I use SpamBayes both at work and home. Is it possible to merge the Spambayes databases so I don?t have to classify the same things as spam at home that I already have classified as spam at work and vice versa? One more thing: is it possible to tell SpamBayes that messages that contain an attachment named ?Norton AntiVirus Deleted1.txt? are always spam? Best regards, Roar J?ssund From skip at pobox.com Tue Mar 23 16:19:54 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Tue Mar 23 16:20:10 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Possible to merge Spambayes databases? In-Reply-To: <200403232006.VAA16948@mail45-s.fg.online.no> References: <200403232006.VAA16948@mail45-s.fg.online.no> Message-ID: <16480.43514.541856.890299@montanaro.dyndns.org> Roar> Is it possible to merge the Spambayes databases so I don?t have to Roar> classify the same things as spam at home that I already have Roar> classified as spam at work and vice versa? Yeah, with a little effort. Do you already write programs in Python? Let's set one simple ground rule: Use the new (in CVS) version of sb_dbexpimp.py. This implies the interchange format will be a csv file. It will start with something like 436,518 received:kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be,0,1 ,0,1 0.18x),1,0 That is, the first row has just two fields (total numbers of spam and ham) and the remaining rows have three fields (feature, number of spam, number of ham). Now, assuming you've dumped both databases to csv files (call 'em home.csv and work.csv), this should approximate what you're after: import csv home = csv.reader(file("home.csv", "rb")) work = csv.reader(file("work.csv", "rb")) home_spam, home_ham = map(int, home.next()) work_spam, work_ham = map(int, work.next()) # sum the feature information in the two csv files features = {} for reader in home, work: for (feature, ns, nh) in reader: s, h = features.get(feature, (0,0)) s += int(ns) h += int(nh) features[feature] = (s,h) # write out a merged csv file merged = csv.writer(file("merged.csv", "wb")) merged.writerow((home_spam+work_spam, home_ham+work_ham)) for feature in features: ns, nh = features[feature] merged.writerow((feature,ns,nh)) Skip From juan at itos.uga.edu Tue Mar 23 16:41:58 2004 From: juan at itos.uga.edu (Juan Machado) Date: Tue Mar 23 16:42:02 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Donation Question Message-ID: <3E71C5191EF23346B4356FF822C37566236F75@hermes.itos.uga.edu> Hello, I have a question. I've been testing your software (SPAMBAYES) for almost a month and I'm planning to deploy it to about 70 workstations (Windows based). Your FREE software is going to help us a lot and I really want to make at least a little donation. One of the problems I have is that because all my money is State-Money, I can't donate money! I've talking to my boss and he agrees that we should help you ($$wise) in some way but we will need an invoice to be able to do something like that. Have you ever have this "problem" in the past? If so, please explain me a way to make a donation. Thanks a lot for your GREAT job. Juan Machado Manager, Technology Solutions Division ITOS - Carl Vinson Institute of Government The University of Georgia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'll take the chance on no ham in there. 70% - 90%? put that in my spam folder and I'll have a quick look at the lower % rated items when I get the time. 50% - 70% no change, treat it as possible spam. Just an idea. Steve From carmenprov at snet.net Tue Mar 23 17:23:28 2004 From: carmenprov at snet.net (carmen province) Date: Tue Mar 23 17:23:30 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Is there code to intercept email to run on Windows? Message-ID: <000c01c41125$7a987350$e6aefea9@don> If you can help: I am going through a divorce and my husband do not want to finalized and sing the papers. I know that he is having an affair because I have seen some email from her in his computer. How can I help my self. if I have seen advertising on TV, about intercepting his email. He doesn't live in my home state. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From nobody Tue Mar 23 12:18:15 2004 Received: from c-24-3-167-99.client.comcast.net (c-24-3-167-99.client.comcast.net [24.3.167.99]) by shopip.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with SMTP id i2N14YMt012745 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2004 17:04:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 17:04:34 -0800 (PST) From: PTXRHRPTEUA@cgocable.net Message-Id: <200403230104.i2N14YMt012745@shopip.com> 12 X-Message-Info: 330ISY0cZa597iwGMPY283Vv70QRTre21a368MCpwNytf557 Received: from dns48tpnet.pl ([150.10.210.116]) by mvg9-CK91.tpnet.pl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6824); Mon, 22 Mar 2004 18:49:16 +0600 Received: from tpnet.pl [127.0.0.1] by dnstpnet.pl (SMTPD32-7.12 ) id WI850NSV599; Mon, 22 Mar 2004 14:51:16 +0200 11 Subject: Fwd: Prompt. Discreet Delivery. Valiu|m|.V1codi'n.V|@GRA.XAN@x.TMVYYZTK From: Lydia Bryant To: frank@shopip.com Message-Id: <083350114797.ksy8389@tpnet.pl> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--7013301889942436649" ----7013301889942436649 Content-Type: text/html; Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All the medications You Will Ever Need From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 23 21:00:52 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 23 21:01:45 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Error initializing SpamBayes 1.0a9 In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305A49208@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677B5A@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I have just downloaded and installed SpamBayes 1.0a9. On > starting Outlook, an error dialogue with this message > appears: "The procedure entry point > ?PyCom_SetAndLogCOMErrorFromPyException@@YAJPBDABU_GUID@@@Z > could not be located in the dynamic link library pythoncom23.dll." You have ActivePython installed, yes? We've just recently identified this as a problem where ActivePython is installed, because of the way it does its install. We're working on a fix, and a new release that works with ActivePython should be out soon (hopefully next week). > c:\program files\Spambayes Outlook Addin - no version listed, > created on July 27, 2003 This one should be removed if you uninstall the old version. =Tony meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From lhoffner at directedmotion.com Tue Mar 23 20:25:13 2004 From: lhoffner at directedmotion.com (Lee Hoffner) Date: Tue Mar 23 21:13:31 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Configuring Spambayes without X11 Message-ID: <200403232025.13365.lhoffner@directedmotion.com> I want to run Spambayes on a server (IMAP) that I have not installed X11 on. But, the README says: To configure SpamBayes, run "sb_imapfilter.py -b", which should open a web page to ... What can I do to configure Spambayes in an environment without X11 (and, therefore, without a browser)? My mail server runs Courier IMAP, and my user mailboxes are Maildirs, with many subfolders. How can I supply a path to Spambayes for training, which includes all subfolders, without access to the Web interface? Thanks! From tim.one at comcast.net Tue Mar 23 21:18:30 2004 From: tim.one at comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Tue Mar 23 21:18:31 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Donation Question In-Reply-To: <3E71C5191EF23346B4356FF822C37566236F75@hermes.itos.uga.edu> Message-ID: [Juan Machado] > I have a question. I've been testing your software (SPAMBAYES) for > almost a month and I'm planning to deploy it to about 70 workstations > (Windows based). Your FREE software is going to help us a lot Good! Glad to hear it. > and I really want to make at least a little donation. > > One of the problems I have is that because all my money is > State-Money, I can't donate money! > > I've talking to my boss and he agrees that we should help you > ($$wise) in some way but we will need an invoice to be able to do > something like that. Well, the PSF is a public charity under US tax law, so donations are what we really want. If we have to invoice you, I'm not sure it can count as a donation on our end. We'd have to pay a tax lawyer to tell us. So unless you intend to contribute more than a tax lawyer costs, you'll save us money by not contributing . > Have you ever have this "problem" in the past? Not yet. You're welcome to use the software without sending money! Most people do, and that's fine. Of course, if the people sitting at those 70 workstations appreciate it enough, they're welcome to contribute out of their own pockets. BTW, what helps an open project more than money is people contributing back to the project in ways that benefit the next release directly: testing, bug analysis, code, better docs, helping others with their questions & problems on the mailing list(s). We rely on unpaid volunteers for everything in the project. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 23 21:19:29 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 23 21:19:41 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Configuring Spambayes without X11 In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305A493CC@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677B5E@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > What can I do to configure Spambayes in an environment > without X11 (and, therefore, without a browser)? Can't you use Lynx without X11? In any case, the answer is that you manually enter the various option values in the configuration file. There are three FAQ's that should contain all the information you need. FAQ 4.11: FAQ 4.12: FAQ 4.13: The trickiest bit, probably, will be making sure you have the IMAP folder paths correct, since there isn't any standard folder delimiter with IMAP. Maybe you know the paths already, though. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From lhoffner at directedmotion.com Tue Mar 23 20:38:28 2004 From: lhoffner at directedmotion.com (Lee Hoffner) Date: Tue Mar 23 21:26:43 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Configuring Spambayes without X11 In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677B5E@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677B5E@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <200403232038.28038.lhoffner@directedmotion.com> On Tuesday 23 March 2004 09:19 pm, Tony Meyer wrote: > Can't you use Lynx without X11? Lynx didn't automatically run when I ran sb_imapfilter.py -b. Instead, I got an error that said I needed to supply a server name and username. In any event, I figured the interface would be graphically based, and I am somewhat "challenged" at interpreting graphically based material in Lynx. > In any case, the answer is that you manually enter the various option > values in the configuration file. There are three FAQ's that should > contain all the information you need. > > FAQ 4.11: > > > > FAQ 4.12: > > a t-options-do-i-need-to-set> > > FAQ 4.13: > > i le> > I will check these out post haste! And thanks for the references. From lono8 at worldnet.att.net Tue Mar 23 21:24:51 2004 From: lono8 at worldnet.att.net (Jan Dunlap) Date: Tue Mar 23 21:27:29 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: Taskbar Message-ID: <000901c41147$31563520$1e7cfea9@6818bsb30489> Hi, After reading the troubleshooting page, and experimenting with some things, I still have a setup button on the taskbar below....I cannot close it, and I cannot shut my computer off. Help! What did I do? Lono8@att.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040323/e4dc9a76/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 23 21:27:41 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 23 21:27:54 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Possible to merge Spambayes databases? In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305A4931A@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2B56@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> [Roar J?ssund] > Is it possible to merge the Spambayes databases so > I don?t have to > classify the same things as spam at home that I already have > classified as spam at work and vice versa? [Skip] > Yeah, with a little effort. Do you already write programs in Python? Or even with less effort and no programming . Using that same sb_dbexpimp.py script Skip mentioned (either the CVS one or the 1.0a9 one) do: sb_dbexpimp.py -e -d home.db -f home.export sb_dbexpimp.py -e -d work.db -f work.export sb_dbexpimp.py -i -d home_and_work.db -f home.export sb_dbexpimp.py -i -m -d home_and_work.db -f work.export (This assumes that they're both DBM and not pickles. If you don't know, then that'll be the case). The first two lines export the existing databases to the 'interchange format', the third loads the 'home' one into a new database, and the fourth *adds* the 'work' one into that database. If you want to just add the 'home' one to the 'work one, you can just do: sb_dbexpimp.py -e -d home.db -f home.export sb_dbexpimp.py -i -m -d work.db -f home.export =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From allen at gist.net.au Tue Mar 23 21:30:00 2004 From: allen at gist.net.au (Allen Bolderoff) Date: Tue Mar 23 21:30:04 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Windows XP SP2 breaks spambayes Message-ID: I have just installed XP SP2 beta, and spambayes breaks with outlook 2003. anyone had experience with this? Did you fix it? TIA Allen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040324/2a7632b3/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 23 21:30:52 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 23 21:31:04 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes install issue In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305A4928A@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677B60@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > How does the SpamBayes installer for 008.1 of the Outlook > Plug-in (the executable) detect if Outlook is installed? I believe it looks for the HKEY_CURRENT_USER registry key 'Software\Microsoft\Office\Outlook'. > Upon a Continue, the SpamBayes_addin.dll error "0" appears. This is maybe unrelated to the above and an instance of a well-known problem with the 008.1 release. Have you tried the 1.0a9 one? Assuming it works, it would be the better one to use, anyway, since the latest version should always have fewer bugs. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From lono8 at worldnet.att.net Tue Mar 23 21:29:08 2004 From: lono8 at worldnet.att.net (Jan Dunlap) Date: Tue Mar 23 21:31:40 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: Auto response Message-ID: <001801c41147$c9ee3bc0$1e7cfea9@6818bsb30489> Hi, I did read the FAQ's, I did read troubleshoot. It did not address my question. How do I get rid of the setup bar that now appears on my taskbar? I have not a clue. I cannot close it, and now cannot shutdown my computer; any suggestions? Jan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040323/e053c8fc/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 23 21:34:22 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 23 21:34:29 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Configuring Spambayes without X11 In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305A493DD@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677B61@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > > Can't you use Lynx without X11? > Lynx didn't automatically run when I ran sb_imapfilter.py -b. > Instead, I got an error that said I needed to supply a > server name and username. In any > event, I figured the interface would be graphically based, > and I am somewhat "challenged" at interpreting graphically > based material in Lynx. It's not really graphically based at all. I took a quick peak at the ui with lynx just now and it seemed simple enough to use (well, the Configuration page, at least, which is all I was really interested in). > I will check these out post haste! And thanks for the references. No worries. Let us know if you have any difficulties. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 23 21:36:15 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 23 21:36:25 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Windows XP SP2 breaks spambayes In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305A493E0@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677B62@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I have just installed XP SP2 beta, and spambayes breaks > with outlook 2003. anyone had experience with this? For all I know this is an actual problem, but just to check first: 1. What do you mean "breaks"? Just doesn't work anymore? Gives an error message? What does the log have? 2. Have you checked to see SpamBayes isn't just disabled? This happens with all sorts of Microsoft upgrades. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 23 21:41:56 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 23 21:42:48 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: Taskbar In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305A493DE@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677B63@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> [For future reference - there's no need to reply to the autoresponder - your message still goes through to the list; it just gives some immediate tips that help some people.] > After reading the troubleshooting page, and experimenting with some > things, I still have a setup button on the taskbar below....I cannot > close it, and I cannot shut my computer off. Help! What did I do? If there is still a "Setup" item on the taskbar, it means that the setup program is still running. Did you go through the entire setup process, right through to clicking a button labelled "Finish"? What happens if you switch to the "Setup" application? (Either by clicking on "Setup", or by Alt-Tab'ing to it). If it has got stuck somehow, then you may have to force it to quit via the Task Manager. You find this via Control-Alt-Delete. Find the setup application and force it to quit. This may well mean that the install has not completed, so when you re-open Outlook, SpamBayes may not be there. I haven't seen a report like this before, so it seems unlikely that it would happen if you ran the installer again. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 23 21:46:15 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 23 21:46:25 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes + Outlook Express In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305A491B9@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677B64@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Installing 1.0a9 didn't seem to solve things > immediately as there is no auto start for > sb_server.exe. So I am limping along with a > sb_server that started manually. It works. What do you mean "auto start"? If you select the "automatically start sb_server" option during the install, it should do so. Do you mean that the service version of sb_server is not there? This is a known bug and has been fixed in CVS, so will be fixed in the next release. > The issue is the install doco is inconsistent > with what's shipped. It really helps us if you can be specific with problems like this. *What exactly* is inconsistent? That way we can ensure that it's already fixed, or if not, fix it. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 23 22:52:41 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 23 22:52:51 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Idea for next version In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305A49341@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677B65@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > How about a new level of filtering. I would like to say > > 90%? I don't even want to see it, delete it permanently. > I'll take the chance on no ham in there. > > 70% - 90%? put that in my spam folder and I'll have a quick > look at the lower % rated items when I get the time. > > 50% - 70% no change, treat it as possible spam. This has been suggested a few times. There's an open tracker for it: [ 774650 ] Additional post-filtering options Feel free to add comments to it. One problem is that this becomes hard to nicely expose via a GUI interface, and hard to make easy to use. Something that would make many things simpler is if Outlook made it possible to use the built in rules system (filter on a user defined field, for example), since then it could do all that. It seems unlikely that that will arrive any time soon, though. It's not the same, but you can at least sort the spam folder by score, and manually select everything above e.g 90% for deletion without checking it. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From Steve at HaHaha.com.au Tue Mar 23 23:02:01 2004 From: Steve at HaHaha.com.au (Steve Davis) Date: Tue Mar 23 23:01:02 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Idea for next version In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677B65@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <200403240400.i2O40tjn064118@diablo.OntheNet.com.au> Thanks for the reply Tony. Basically, ordering them by score is how I deal with them now. I only glance at anything from 70% - 80% everything is deleted without being checked so it isn't a major issue, but would have been a nice feature if possible As for the GUI why not a scale from 0 - 100% with 3 pointers: below the left pointer is ham, between pointers 1 and 2 is possible, between 2 and 3 is likely and to the right of 3 is deleted. Steve -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Wednesday, 24 March 2004 1:53 PM To: 'Steve Davis'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Idea for next version > How about a new level of filtering. I would like to say > 90%? I don't > even want to see it, delete it permanently. > I'll take the chance on no ham in there. > > 70% - 90%? put that in my spam folder and I'll have a quick look at > the lower % rated items when I get the time. > > 50% - 70% no change, treat it as possible spam. This has been suggested a few times. There's an open tracker for it: [ 774650 ] Additional post-filtering options Feel free to add comments to it. One problem is that this becomes hard to nicely expose via a GUI interface, and hard to make easy to use. Something that would make many things simpler is if Outlook made it possible to use the built in rules system (filter on a user defined field, for example), since then it could do all that. It seems unlikely that that will arrive any time soon, though. It's not the same, but you can at least sort the spam folder by score, and manually select everything above e.g 90% for deletion without checking it. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From allen at gist.net.au Tue Mar 23 23:58:19 2004 From: allen at gist.net.au (Allen Bolderoff) Date: Tue Mar 23 23:58:31 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Windows XP SP2 breaks spambayes In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677B62@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: > I have just installed XP SP2 beta, and spambayes breaks > with outlook 2003. anyone had experience with this? For all I know this is an actual problem, but just to check first: 1. What do you mean "breaks"? Just doesn't work anymore? Gives an error message? What does the log have? 2. Have you checked to see SpamBayes isn't just disabled? This happens with all sorts of Microsoft upgrades. Ok, Start outlook with spambayes enabled: Outlook throws to the standard MS - Do you want to send an error report, and when you answer yes or no, after it has done what it needs to do to report or not, you get the"Outlook experienced an error when trying to open the spambayes addin (or words to that effect) do you want to disable this plugin" dialog. I have a copy of the error report that MS wants to send if you need it just tell me where to send it - quite large. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Mar 24 01:13:30 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Mar 24 01:13:37 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] error messages In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305A49148@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677B68@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> [Stephen Ng] > I installed v1.0a9 on my Redhat 9. Everything seems to work correctly > except for the following error messages - > > [...] > > IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: > '/home/sng/pop3proxy-spam-cache/1078759883' [...] > I don't have any anti virus running so I don't know what if anything > has removed the file. Yoicks! This is a symptom of a pretty ugly sb_server bug, unless I'm mistaken. Basically: The cache directories expire their messages after a certain number of days. This expiry is done on startup and also (for those that just leave it running for a long time) on every POP3 "USER" command proxied. The expiry is done by removing the messages from the ham/spam/unsure corpus (originally only the unsure one, but that left some people with massive ham/spam cache directories). At startup, this is fine. After startup, observers are attached to the ham and spam corpora so that messages moved in and out of them are appropriately trained. This is how the training magic works. However, when a message is expired, the observers are still notified, and so training is done then, which really shouldn't happen. My testing seems to indicate that this is the case, unless I'm really missing something fundamental. The times you'd get the error are when this happens and the message isn't in the corpus memory cache. I'll look into this more and if this is a bug, fix it. The fix will be in the next release, slated (hopefully) for next week. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From Virus_Administrator at manpower.nl Wed Mar 24 09:44:52 2004 From: Virus_Administrator at manpower.nl (Virus_Administrator@manpower.nl) Date: Wed Mar 24 03:45:11 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Virus Detected by Network Associates, Inc. Webshield SMTP V4.5 Message-ID: Uw verzonden mail naar is geblokkeerd omdat deze mogelijk een virus bevat. From fwdpgn at t-systems.com Wed Mar 24 04:32:04 2004 From: fwdpgn at t-systems.com (fwdpgn@t-systems.com) Date: Wed Mar 24 04:33:04 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Die E_Mail von spambayes @ python . org konnte nicht weitergeleitet werden . ( ddaah143@deutschepost.de ) Message-ID: <200403240932.i2O9W4MI027670@ppd00021.deutschepost.de> In der Mailnachricht wurde ein Dateianhang gefunden, der potenziell gef?hrlich ist. Von: spambayes@python.org An: webmaster@deutschepost.de Gesendet: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 10:34:58 +0100 Betrefftest: Mail Delivery (failure webmaster@deutschepost.de) Aus diesem Grund konnte diese Mail nicht an den/die Empfaenger weitergeleitet werden. Mails mit VBS-Scripten oder potentiell gefaehrlichen Dateianhaengen koennen einen sch?dlichen Code enthalten und werden daher nicht an den/die Empfaenger zugestellt. --- A VBS script (.vbs file) or potentially dangerous attachment has been found in the mail: From: spambayes@python.org To: webmaster@deutschepost.de Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 10:34:58 +0100 Subject: Mail Delivery (failure webmaster@deutschepost.de) Therefore this mail was not delivered to the recepient(s). --- Deutsche Post AG postmaster@deutschepost.de From lhoffner at directedmotion.com Wed Mar 24 06:00:01 2004 From: lhoffner at directedmotion.com (Lee Hoffner) Date: Wed Mar 24 06:48:17 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] More configuration Q's In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677B5E@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677B5E@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <200403240600.01167.lhoffner@directedmotion.com> I see from the Options that I can use [html_ui] to set IPs other than localhost as trusted. This could provide a workaround for me, as other workstations on my LAN are of course equipped with X and browsers. However, even on localhost, connections to port 8880 are being rejected. I have Shorewall configured to accept connections to 8880. Is this something I should look to change within Spambayes, or Apache? (Feels like Apache, but if someone knows for sure, let me know.) Thanks! From lhoffner at directedmotion.com Wed Mar 24 07:23:57 2004 From: lhoffner at directedmotion.com (Lee Hoffner) Date: Wed Mar 24 08:12:14 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] html_ui options Message-ID: <200403240723.57245.lhoffner@directedmotion.com> There is no description given for launch_browser in the [html_ui] options. Can someone provide one? It's default is False: what process gets invoked if I change that to True? Does this option extend across a network? Or does it only perform a function on the localhost? Thanks! 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Skip From skip at pobox.com Wed Mar 24 10:01:59 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Wed Mar 24 10:02:14 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Possible to merge Spambayes databases? In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2B56@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305A4931A@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2B56@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <16481.41703.41727.781181@montanaro.dyndns.org> ... Tony> sb_dbexpimp.py -i -m -d home_and_work.db -f work.export Tony> ... and the fourth *adds* the 'work' one into that database. Ya learn something every day. I don't use sb_dbexpimp.py on a regular basis (read: not at all), so didn't know about the -m flag. 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040324/73dcf3da/attachment.html From scales at zko.dec.com Wed Mar 24 14:31:39 2004 From: scales at zko.dec.com (Webb Scales) Date: Wed Mar 24 14:31:43 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Configuring Spambayes without X11 References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677B5E@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <4061E21A.DD580246@zko.dec.com> Tony Meyer wrote: > The trickiest bit, probably, will be making sure you have the IMAP folder > paths correct, since there isn't any standard folder delimiter with IMAP. > Maybe you know the paths already, though. If you don't know them (either the path or the delimiter), you should be able to ask your IMAP server. I believe that the IMAP RFC contains more than you want to know, but you should be able to get from it everything you need to talk to your server. The short version is, use telnet to connect to port 143 on the machine running your IMAP server, like % telnet nodename.sub.dom 143 Then log in to your IMAP server, like 001 login myaccountname mypassword (The first token ("001") is just a token used to match responses to requests. Don't worry about it.) Then ask it for the list of folders, like 002 list INBOX * If "INBOX" doesn't work for you, I'll have to refer you to the RFC.... *shrug* To ask it for just the path delimiter, type 003 list "" "" When you're done, you can log out, like 004 logout Good luck and happy IMAP'ing, Webb -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Webb Scales Hewlett-Packard Company scales@zko.dec.com 110 Spit Brook Rd, ZKO2-3/N30 Voice: 603.884.2196, FAX: 603.884.0120 Nashua, NH 03062-2711 Rule #12: Be joyful - seek the joy of being alive. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040324/9d0281ef/attachment.html From scales at zko.dec.com Wed Mar 24 15:02:17 2004 From: scales at zko.dec.com (Webb Scales) Date: Wed Mar 24 15:02:41 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] sb_dbexpimp.py doc bug(s) References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677B44@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <4061E949.BCDEFA63@zko.dec.com> Tony Meyer wrote: > > First, the help for sb_dbexpimp.py is missing a few options > > (like -d and -n), but I figured out what to do from the examples. > > The -d was a bug in 1.0a9 that has since been fixed in cvs (some other > option (-p maybe?), was there twice). I'm not sure what you mean by -n, > since that's not a switch that sb_dbexpimp.py will use at all. Here's the Usage section of the output from sb_dbexpimp.py -h: Usage: sb_dbexpimp [options] options: -e : export -i : import -v : verbose mode (some additional diagnostic messages) -f: FN : flat file to export to or import from -p: FN : name of pickled database file to use -f: FN : name of dbm database file to use -m : merge import into an existing database file. This is meaningful only for import. If omitted, a new database file will be created. If specified, the imported wordinfo will be merged into an existing database. Run dbExpImp -h for more information. -o: section:option:value : set [section, option] in the options database to value -h : help -d is missing, and -f is there twice. Presumably the second -f should be -d. I'll take your word that this has been fixed already. However, the sixth paragraph of the Abstract section says, Database merging - multiple databases can be merged into one quite easily by simply not specifying -n on an import. This will add the two database nham and nspams together (assuming the two databases do not share corpora) and for wordinfo conflicts, will add spamcount and hamcount together. and the third example shows, Export, then import (reorganize) new pickled mybayes.db sb_dbexpimp -e -i -n -p mybayes.db -f mybayes.db.export Each of these refers to a -n switch which is not listed in the Usage section. (Should I open a bug report on this, or is reporting it here sufficient?) Thanks, Webb -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Webb Scales Hewlett-Packard Company scales@zko.dec.com 110 Spit Brook Rd, ZKO2-3/N30 Voice: 603.884.2196, FAX: 603.884.0120 Nashua, NH 03062-2711 Rule #12: Be joyful - seek the joy of being alive. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This will add the two database nham and nspams Webb> together (assuming the two databases do not share Webb> corpora) and for wordinfo conflicts, will add spamcount Webb> and hamcount together. Thanks, I'll fix that. Webb> and the third example shows, Webb> Export, then import (reorganize) new pickled mybayes.db Webb> sb_dbexpimp -e -i -n -p mybayes.db -f mybayes.db.export This seems just plain weird to me. I'm going to delete this example and add a merge example. Thanks for the feedback, Skip From Norton_AntiVirus_Gateways at ksl.co.il Wed Mar 24 15:55:24 2004 From: Norton_AntiVirus_Gateways at ksl.co.il (Norton_AntiVirus_Gateways@ksl.co.il) Date: Wed Mar 24 15:55:36 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Norton AntiVirus for Gateways detected a virus! Message-ID: Norton AntiVirus for Gateways detected a virus in message you sent! --- Scan information follows --- Result: Virus Detected Virus Name: W32.Netsky.P@mm File Attachment: summary2004_bstatnikov.zip Attachment Status: deleted --- Original message information follows --- From: spambayes@python.org To: bstatnikov@kns.dicesys.com Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 15:11:25 -0600 Subject: Re: Hello Received: from kns.dicesys.com ([68.17.191.24]) by ftp.ksl.co.il (NAVGW 2.5.2.9) with SMTP id M2004032422590220294 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2004 22:59:03 +0200 From scales at zko.dec.com Wed Mar 24 16:28:00 2004 From: scales at zko.dec.com (Webb Scales) Date: Wed Mar 24 16:28:10 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] sb_dbexpimp.py doc bug(s) References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677B44@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> <4061E949.BCDEFA63@zko.dec.com> <16481.61133.64929.771466@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <4061FD5F.707D7775@zko.dec.com> Skip Montanaro wrote: > Webb> and the third example shows, > > Webb> Export, then import (reorganize) new pickled mybayes.db > Webb> sb_dbexpimp -e -i -n -p mybayes.db -f mybayes.db.export > > This seems just plain weird to me. I'm going to delete this example and add > a merge example. It's already there. (It's the fifth/last example. :-) However, I don't know that you really want to completely delete the export/import example. I think that it is supposed to reflect this text from the Abstract: Database reorganization - an export followed by an import reorgs an existing database, improving performance, at least in some database implementations > Thanks for the feedback, No problem -- I'm happy to help (in trivial ways, at least ;-) to make this stuff easy for other people. Thank you for doing the heavy lifting! 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040324/dbf8059a/attachment.html From skip at pobox.com Wed Mar 24 16:40:08 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Wed Mar 24 16:41:13 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] sb_dbexpimp.py doc bug(s) In-Reply-To: <4061FD5F.707D7775@zko.dec.com> References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677B44@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> <4061E949.BCDEFA63@zko.dec.com> <16481.61133.64929.771466@montanaro.dyndns.org> <4061FD5F.707D7775@zko.dec.com> Message-ID: <16482.56.398684.81386@montanaro.dyndns.org> >> This seems just plain weird to me. I'm going to delete this example >> and add a merge example. Webb> It's already there. (It's the fifth/last example. :-) Dang... Webb> However, I don't know that you really want to completely delete Webb> the export/import example. I think that it is supposed to reflect Webb> this text from the Abstract: Webb> Database reorganization - an export followed by an import Webb> reorgs an existing database, improving Webb> performance, at least in some database implementations I think that's a specious argument. There's no guarantee that the order in which keys are emitted when the database file is dumped out to a csv file (and thus the order in which they appear in the csv file) represents an optimal insertion order for key/value pairs into an empty database (for any arbitrary definition of "optimal insertion order"). Skip From scales at zko.dec.com Wed Mar 24 17:17:06 2004 From: scales at zko.dec.com (Webb Scales) Date: Wed Mar 24 17:19:00 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] I am the author of my own undoing. References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2B4A@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <406208E2.DB848E09@zko.dec.com> Tony Meyer wrote: > Is there a reason that you don't want to use sb_imapfilter for the training > as well as the classification? I saw something in another message that said > something about downloading the message twice, but I wasn't sure what you > meant exactly. Do you already have the message downloaded in some non-mbox > form? If so, maybe sb_mboxtrain can be manipulated into working with it. > If not, then maybe we can adapt sb_imapfilter to do the job? The situation is that I work from home in the mornings, using a Macintosh running Netscape accessing my mail server inside my company's firewall through a VPN, and I do this over a dial-up. So, my network bandwidth is limited in various ways and is inconsistent as well. I prefer having my mail on an IMAP server, so that the stuff that I read in the morning is still available to me in the afternoon when I'm in the office. Now, in general, the systems at work are centrally administered, so I don't really have root access. (Or...if I reconfigured something and anybody noticed, it would be a Bad Thing(tm).) So, the mail server that is available to me is a Cyrus IMAP server, which means that I have no access to the message folders, except via the IMAP protocol (which is fine, even good, in several senses). But, it turns out that the mail server is set up so that it uses procmail to deliver incoming mail to the IMAP server, so I do have access to the messages for a brief shining moment before they are placed into the vault. So, this is where I put SpamBayes. This configuration has several advantages. First, SB is invoked only when needed (i.e., when a message comes in); it doesn't have to be started, always runs when needed, and the message is handled on the machine where it is kept. Now, I could use sb_imapfilter, but the configuration issues make it seem inelegant in comparison. I would have to figure out which machine to run it on (there are many options with the mail server being the obvious choice, but there is no way for me to auto-start it there, other than with a polling cron job). And, the message would have to be copied across from the mail server to the server running sb_imapfilter and back (which would be OK if I picked an office machine, but it would be basically awful if I tried to run it on my home machine). The best part about using the procmail filter is that my home mail client is completely oblivious to arriving spam. This is placed in the spam folder which the client doesn't touch unless I specifically ask it to. If I were running sb_imapfilter, then there would be a competition between SB and my client as to who sees the spam first, and my client would frequently end up downloading it (at least the header) when it noticed it as "new mail". So, I'm pretty much in love with the procmail filter. (And, I'm getting ready to have it just delete spam on contact, so that I *never* see it! I'm really liking SB.) The obvious problem is, how do I training? There are at least three answers. 1. Manually export messages from my mail client to an mbox. This is awkward, because I don't have direct access to the file server (where the mbox would live) from my home machine. And, in any case, my mail client would download the message which I would then have to upload (somehow) to the mbox, which would be two trips for the message across the slow dial-up. I could use the web-based training, but that's still two trips across the wire. 2. Have the procmail filter set up an mbox with candidates. The problem with this is, I then have to figure out how to access this mbox (which is somewhat more complicated than it sounds) so that I can vet its contents. And, there's also the problem of how to add false negatives to it (e.g., I have no easy access to it from my home mail client). 3. Use my mail client to put the training messages into a training folder on the IMAP server, and then use sb_imapfilter to train them. (I still have to download the message in order to read it, but this saves me from having to upload it again, and the operation is trivial to perform -- e.g., it doesn't require another mail program to manipulate an mbox or a cut-and-paste into a web browser or anything.) But, this leaves me using two independent SB tools, which end up operating on the same database without synchonization...hence my problem. > > If not, is it reasonable for me to request that SpamBayes > > synchronize access to the database files, to prevent the > > sort of corruption that I caused? > > The policy (if you can call it that ) so far has been that each of the > scripts needs to ensure that they are well behaved in this manner, but it's > up to the user to manage any multiple script difficulties. Usually it's > only Linux people using procmail or something like that that are in this > situation anyway, and they're happy putting in whatever lock stuff goes > there (I know nothing). If you can come up with a scenario where SpamBayes > really needs to be the one doing it, and no-one here can find a way around > the problem, then yes, it is reasonable. It may be reasonable even without > that if you have a patch <0.5 wink>. *heh* Repeat after me, "I am unique...." :-) Remi gave me the suggestion that, since the procmail setup is already using a lockfile to prevent conflicts with other invocations of procmail, I should wrap my sb_imapfilter invocation in some code which also uses the same lockfile. That's a fine suggestion, as far as it goes, but I don't really know how procmail lockfiles work, and I don't really know how to test whatever I might write (and, it would require me to do my training on/from the mail server). As far as coming up with a senario goes, I've outlined my situation above. If you think that that is sufficient to warrant a feature-request, I'm happy to put one in. The obvious workaround is to wrap the SB stuff in something that provides the synchronization, but I would want/expect/hope-for that to be built-in (but, yeah, I'm biased ;-). As for a patch, I assume I could do that. I'm supposed to be some kind of high-powered software engineer, but I don't seem to have time to do anything more than send and receive e-mail.... ;-) [Um, how steep is the learning curve on python? (I sure hope someone will vet any code I supply!! 8-) ] Thanks, Webb -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Webb Scales Hewlett-Packard Company scales at zko.dec.com 110 Spit Brook Rd, ZKO2-3/N30 Voice: 603.884.2196, FAX: 603.884.0120 Nashua, NH 03062-2711 Rule #12: Be joyful - seek the joy of being alive. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040324/f6942086/attachment.html From kennypitt at hotmail.com Wed Mar 24 17:32:27 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Wed Mar 24 17:33:38 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] html_ui options In-Reply-To: <200403240723.57245.lhoffner@directedmotion.com> Message-ID: Lee Hoffner wrote: > There is no description given for launch_browser in the [html_ui] > options. Can someone provide one? It's default is False: what process > gets invoked if I change that to True? Does this option extend across > a network? Or does it only perform a function on the localhost? IIRC, that option tells SpamBayes to automatically open the default web browser to the home page of the Web-based UI when you start an app such as sb_server or sb_imapfilter. It should only happen on the machine where you execute the application, and does not affect remote systems. -- Kenny Pitt From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Mar 24 17:38:04 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Mar 24 17:38:13 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] html_ui options In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305A496B5@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677B72@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > IIRC, that option tells SpamBayes to automatically open the > default web browser to the home page of the Web-based UI when > you start an app such as sb_server or sb_imapfilter. It > should only happen on the machine where you execute the > application, and does not affect remote systems. That matches my understanding, too. I've checked in a docstring for the option (I didn't realise it didn't have one). =Tony Meyer From postmaster at ssd.com Thu Mar 25 00:26:38 2004 From: postmaster at ssd.com (postmaster@ssd.com) Date: Thu Mar 25 00:26:47 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SSD Prohibited File Notification Message-ID: <6C7CB20D1FK9150-01@MMS__ssd.com_> Greetings! The email sent to , will not be delivered. Squire, Sanders prohibits sending or receiving of executable attachments via email due to the prevalence of viruses that propagate via this method. Do not zip your files and try again as that will not circumvent this prohibition. If you know that your attachment is legitimate, contact the SSD Helpdesk at: Email: helpdesk(at)ssd.com (replace the (at) with @) Phone: 1 (216) 687-3445 Email Info: Sender: Subject: Private document Attachments: about_you.pif From postmaster at ssd.com Thu Mar 25 02:17:29 2004 From: postmaster at ssd.com (postmaster@ssd.com) Date: Thu Mar 25 02:17:37 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SSD Prohibited File Notification Message-ID: <6C7C580F1TK18188-01@MMS__ssd.com_> Greetings! The email sent to , will not be delivered. Squire, Sanders prohibits sending or receiving of executable attachments via email due to the prevalence of viruses that propagate via this method. Do not zip your files and try again as that will not circumvent this prohibition. If you know that your attachment is legitimate, contact the SSD Helpdesk at: Email: helpdesk(at)ssd.com (replace the (at) with @) Phone: 1 (216) 687-3445 Email Info: Sender: Subject: Mail Delivery (failure udeck@ssd.com) Attachments: message.scr From Ingolf.Steinhardt at inpro.de Thu Mar 25 03:13:13 2004 From: Ingolf.Steinhardt at inpro.de (Steinhardt, Ingolf) Date: Thu Mar 25 03:13:52 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Images Message-ID: Hi "SpamBayes", I worked any time with V 0.6 and change the pictures/icons in the folder /img I changed to Version 0.9 an I missing the icons! I?s possible to work with my own icons?? Thank?s for your work!!! Ingolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Benoit BERTIN tel : +352 4211-3847 Manager It Network Department fax : +352 4211-3513 CHAMP Cargosystems SA mobile : +352 021-195028 L-2990 Luxembourg SITA ... mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/ 2004-January/010625.html - 4k - En cache - Pages similaires ____________________________________________________________________________ ____ And when you click on it, all information (phone number, position, e-mail, .....) becomes available. Please would you remove those information as quick as possible. Thanks in advance Benoit BERTIN ____________________________________________________________________________ ______ [Spambayes] prices Bertin Benoit benoit.bertin at champ.aero Tue Jan 13 07:23:36 EST 2004 * Previous message: [Spambayes] Spambayes UkEaIX, ?????????? ttVuX ????????? ???????? ThDJdq * Next message: [Spambayes] prices * Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Dear All, I'm the manager of IT network department of Air Transport Company in Luxembourg. We receive more and more spam email. Please, would you provide me a reseller in Luxembourg ( France or Belgium) and a price quote for your anti spam product (outlook, POP3 and IMAP plugin) Thanks in advance and regards Benoit BERTIN ________________________________________________________ Benoit BERTIN tel : +352 4211-3847 Manager It Network Department fax : +352 4211-3513 CHAMP Cargosystems S.A. mobile : +352 021-195028 L-2990 Luxembourg SITA : LUXXSCV mail : benoit.bertin at champ.aero > HTTP : www.champ.aero > ________________________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040113/71213876/att achment.html * Previous message: [Spambayes] Spambayes UkEaIX, ?????????? ttVuX ????????? ???????? 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Please, would you provide me a reseller in Luxembourg ( France or Belgium) and a price quote for your anti spam product (outlook, POP3 and IMAP plugin) Thanks in advance and regards Benoit BERTIN ________________________________________________________ Benoit BERTIN tel : +352 4211-3847 Manager It Network Department fax : +352 4211-3513 CHAMP Cargosystems S.A. mobile : +352 021-195028 L-2990 Luxembourg SITA : LUXXSCV mail : benoit.bertin@champ.aero HTTP : www.champ.aero ________________________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040325/d310ed41/attachment-0001.html From NAVMSE-HOMER at COMPA.COM Thu Mar 25 06:19:11 2004 From: NAVMSE-HOMER at COMPA.COM (NAVMSE-HOMER) Date: Thu Mar 25 06:19:26 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Norton AntiVirus detected a virus in a message you sent. The infected attachment was deleted. Message-ID: <3558F9EB02F4494D9C4CCADDCB46CCA92EE7D6@homer.compainc.com> Recipient of the infected attachment: HOMER, First Storage Group\Mailbox Store (HOMER), daniel A. Jensenlopez/Deleted Items Subject of the message: Mail Delivery (failure dan@sectionq.net) One or more attachments were deleted Attachment message.scr was Deleted for the following reasons: Virus W32.Netsky.P@mm was found. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040325/ecc44d02/attachment.html From wsy at merl.com Thu Mar 25 08:24:33 2004 From: wsy at merl.com (Bill Yerazunis) Date: Thu Mar 25 08:24:41 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] I am the author of my own undoing. In-Reply-To: <406208E2.DB848E09@zko.dec.com> (message from Webb Scales on Wed, 24 Mar 2004 17:17:06 -0500) References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2B4A@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> <406208E2.DB848E09@zko.dec.com> Message-ID: <200403251324.i2PDOXC10041@localhost.localdomain> From: Webb Scales So, I'm pretty much in love with the procmail filter. (And, I'm getting ready to have it just delete spam on contact, so that I *never* see it! I'm really liking SB.) The obvious problem is, how do I training? There are at least three answers. Let me offer a fourth option: Assuming SpamBayes has a way to command learning from the command line, create a pair of "magic words" that nobody is likely to ever guess. Then, change your procmail recipe such that: Whenever procmail sees magic word A, it invokes Spambayes in the "learn this as spam" mode. Whenever procmail sees magic word B, it invokes Spambayes in the "learn this as NONspam" mode. Then, to train, you just include the magic word, and re-mail the message to yourself. Now, there are certain details that I'm glossing over (like messages that get altered in your pipeline, headers lost and added, etc) but this is a good starting point. I've been using this technique on CRM114 since inception, and it seems to be quite easy, as all it requires is a working mail-sender that you can type and forward with. -Bill Yerazunis From bob at bob.com Thu Mar 25 09:05:45 2004 From: bob at bob.com (bob@bob.com) Date: Thu Mar 25 09:00:14 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] :-) Message-ID: Argh, i don't like the plaintext :) password for archive: 52135 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Sean True, Went back and installed Spambayes. The install went all the way through to the Finished page. Still no tool bar. Any additional thoughts?? Thanks for your efforts and patience. Jon Weitzman -----Original Message----- Jon Weitzman wrote: > Trying to install and run Spambayes on an NT system. It seems to > install but I > do not get a spambayes toolbar in outlook. > > I'm installing spambayes 1.0a9(0.9). My system is NT 4.0 and > Outlook 2000 SR-1 Version 9. > From jbeals at IDFG.STATE.ID.US Thu Mar 25 09:58:35 2004 From: jbeals at IDFG.STATE.ID.US (Beals,Jon) Date: Thu Mar 25 09:59:44 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Message-ID: <020A25F6AB48F849A1892E532CCD21D602C245D7@hqexchange.idfg.state.id.us> Good Morning Spambayes: A quick question for you I hope. I did not see any reference in the FAQ for using spam lists from other spam filters. I was previously using Inbox Cop and it developed an extensive spammers/friends list. Can spambayes incorporate that information into its "training regimen"? Thanks for any help you can provide. Jon Beals Wildlife Biologist Sub-Basin Planning Idaho Department of Fish and Game 600 S. Walnut St. Boise, ID 83707 208-287-2795 jbeals@idfg.state.id.us -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040325/dbed5539/attachment.html From papaDoc at videotron.ca Thu Mar 25 10:15:49 2004 From: papaDoc at videotron.ca (papaDoc) Date: Thu Mar 25 10:16:02 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <020A25F6AB48F849A1892E532CCD21D602C245D7@hqexchange.idfg.state.id.us> References: <020A25F6AB48F849A1892E532CCD21D602C245D7@hqexchange.idfg.state.id.us> Message-ID: <4062F7A5.2030800@videotron.ca> Hi Jon, > Good Morning Spambayes: > > A quick question for you I hope. I did not see any reference in the > FAQ for using spam lists from other spam filters. I was previously > using Inbox Cop and it developed an extensive spammers/friends list. > Can spambayes incorporate that information into its "training regimen"? Spambayes don't use whitelist, blacklist or as you call them "spammers/friends list". It use bayesien (not so baysien anymore) filtering instead. If you still can live without the "spammers/friends list" you can look at "Inboxer" a commercial soft based on Spambayes. Remi -- /"\ \ / X ASCII Ribbon Campaign / \ Against HTML Email From papaDoc at videotron.ca Thu Mar 25 10:20:23 2004 From: papaDoc at videotron.ca (papaDoc) Date: Thu Mar 25 10:20:29 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: [spambayes-dev] cant live without xmlrpcserver In-Reply-To: <16482.62656.50758.339819@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20040324205454.01f212e0@mail.telecommunity.com> <200403250916.48518.tdickenson@geminidataloggers.com> <16482.62656.50758.339819@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <4062F8B7.7090008@videotron.ca> Hi, > Toby> Ive now got a prototype solution, all in python. I takes 849ms to > Toby> start the daemon and classify the first email, but then only 95ms > Toby> to classify any subsequent email that arrives before the server > Toby> times out. With ReadyExec for the client process I should be able > Toby> to reduce that further. > > Toby> Code available on request. > >That's great. Can you just check it into Spambayes CVS in the contrib >directory? > > I make the request!!!!!!! ;-) My email server (a 486) will like that. When I stop fetchmail for 1 day and start it the next day and It has to filter 100 emails it is not responsive anymore.... Remi -- /"\ \ / X ASCII Ribbon Campaign / \ Against HTML Email From pairan at foni.net Thu Mar 25 11:42:39 2004 From: pairan at foni.net (:: PaiRaN ::) Date: Thu Mar 25 11:38:33 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Qmail, smtp-after-pop and the smtp-proxy! Message-ID: <003701c41288$2feb79b0$5196a8c0@nemesis> Hi there, im using spambayes as a Spam-Tagger on my system. It performs well and prevents me from reading those spam-shit! My Qmail-Server has a rule called "smtp-after-pop". Well, since Spambayes offers to serve as a SMTP-Proxy aswell, i configured it to do so. Now i encounter the following Problem: After having configured the sb_server to be a smtp-proxy for me, it does so for everyone connected to the internet! Or in other words: Changing Spambayes to become a smtp-proxy lets my qmail go OPEN-RELAY! Is there a fast and easy-workaround, which i can implement into sb_server.py to prevent this!? I thought of a kind of LIST! IF the authentification on the POP3-Proxy did well an was accepted, then write the IP to a text-file! And wenn SMTP-Proxy is called on port x (usually 25) then FIRST parse the list and compare the IP to the prior approved IP's from the mentioned Text-file above! This shouldnt be a big change! But since i only do some perl an html, i cant find the place to change in the script! I would be very pleased to hear from you about this. Maybe this change could enhance your Project a bit! kind regards // PaiRaN -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The updated version gives you an option on the configuration page to specify a list of trusted IP addresses that you want to allow to connect to the SMTP proxy. -- Kenny Pitt _____ From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of :: PaiRaN :: Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 11:43 AM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Qmail, smtp-after-pop and the smtp-proxy! My Qmail-Server has a rule called "smtp-after-pop". Well, since Spambayes offers to serve as a SMTP-Proxy aswell, i configured it to do so. Now i encounter the following Problem: After having configured the sb_server to be a smtp-proxy for me, it does so for everyone connected to the internet! Or in other words: Changing Spambayes to become a smtp-proxy lets my qmail go OPEN-RELAY! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040325/9a901aeb/attachment.html From JBecker at ui.urban.org Thu Mar 25 11:56:44 2004 From: JBecker at ui.urban.org (Becker, Jim) Date: Thu Mar 25 11:56:48 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Hit-or-miss incremental training Message-ID: <4CD371A22A53D411B60F00508B6F39B0061C2815@UINT4> SpamBayes Outlook Plug-In 1.0a9 Outlook 2000 SR-1 Windows 2000 SP4 A colleague is running with the default thresholds for spam and possible spam (namely 90% and 15% respectively). Two messages in his Junk Suspects folder (where SpamBayes directs his possible spam) behaved differently when dragged back to his In Box. He has both options checked under Incremental Training, such that SpamBayes will do incremental training when messages are dragged around appropriately. First, the bad news. He dragged a message from Junk Suspects to his In Box. The spam scores, before and after, were identical. I had him drag it back into Junk Suspects, and we verified that the score was still the same. Then I had him click the Recover From Spam button. This time, it rescored the message properly. Based on his settings, I would have expected dragging the message and clicking the button to have the same results. The next case is different. This message was initially scored about the same as the first (both in the 20-22% range). He dragged it to his In Box, and this time SpamBayes rescored it and did the incremental training. The spam score when down below 1%. This is what I expected, based on his settings, but it's inconsistent with the above case. Any ideas? Jim Becker From kennypitt at hotmail.com Thu Mar 25 12:15:08 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Thu Mar 25 12:16:23 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] URGENT : remove this page from Internet In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Unfortunately, that probably is not possible. This is a public mailing list with a public archive online, so anything you send to it becomes part of the "public record". You might be able to convince an administrator of the primary archive on mail.python.org to remove the message, but there are probably a number of mirror sites that already have the message and it is unlikely to disappear entirely no matter what we try to do from here. I'm afraid I must be the bearer of the additional bad news that you have probably compounded the problem by forwarding a copy of that same "sensitive" information back to this same public mailing list. Sorry. -- Kenny Pitt _____ From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Bertin Benoit Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 3:39 AM To: 'spambayes@python.org' Subject: [Spambayes] URGENT : remove this page from Internet Dear Sir, In January, I send you the mail here below. Now, we you search the name "CHAMP CARGOSYSTEMS" on google, you receive this URL : [snip] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040325/329497f2/attachment.html From scales at zko.dec.com Thu Mar 25 14:01:50 2004 From: scales at zko.dec.com (Webb Scales) Date: Thu Mar 25 14:02:49 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] URGENT : remove this page from Internet References: Message-ID: <40632C9E.C720FA0D@zko.dec.com> Kenny Pitt wrote: > Unfortunately, that probably is not possible. > At the very least, Google will maintain a cached copy of the archive web page for some time (I don't know how long). So, deleting the primary copy will certainly not prevent access to this information via Google. Webb -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Webb Scales Hewlett-Packard Company scales@zko.dec.com 110 Spit Brook Rd, ZKO2-3/N30 Voice: 603.884.2196, FAX: 603.884.0120 Nashua, NH 03062-2711 Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040325/12d6228b/attachment.html From scales at zko.dec.com Thu Mar 25 14:37:17 2004 From: scales at zko.dec.com (Webb Scales) Date: Thu Mar 25 14:37:24 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] I am the author of my own undoing. References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2B4A@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> <406208E2.DB848E09@zko.dec.com> <200403251324.i2PDOXC10041@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <406334ED.BCA70B3E@zko.dec.com> Bill Yerazunis wrote: > Let me offer a fourth option: > > Assuming SpamBayes has a way to command learning from the command line, > create a pair of "magic words" that nobody is likely to ever guess. > > Then, change your procmail recipe such that: Bill, you've given me an even s[l]icker idea that I like better. 8-) I can set up a procmail recipe to launch the training session using sb_imapfilter under a procmail-instantiated lock. This way, I can continue to simply put the training candidates into a specific pair of folders, and when the training happens, it will be properly synchronized (and, I never have to explicitly launch the trainer!). (And, I can leave learning python for another day.... ;-) Now, the only problem is...the details. I obviously don't want to launch the trainer every time there's incoming mail message (the trainer start-up is too slow, and doing so is completely unnecessary). Launching it once a day would be plenty. So, anybody got some cool procmail recipe code which causes something to happen once-a-day, or not-within-24-hours-of-the-last time, or similar? *grin* Webb sicksicksicksicksicksicksicksick.... 8-) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Webb Scales Hewlett-Packard Company scales at zko.dec.com 110 Spit Brook Rd, ZKO2-3/N30 Voice: 603.884.2196, FAX: 603.884.0120 Nashua, NH 03062-2711 Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040325/326b29be/attachment.html From papaDoc at videotron.ca Thu Mar 25 14:45:07 2004 From: papaDoc at videotron.ca (papaDoc) Date: Thu Mar 25 14:45:12 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] I am the author of my own undoing. In-Reply-To: <406334ED.BCA70B3E@zko.dec.com> References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2B4A@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> <406208E2.DB848E09@zko.dec.com> <200403251324.i2PDOXC10041@localhost.localdomain> <406334ED.BCA70B3E@zko.dec.com> Message-ID: <406336C3.80600@videotron.ca> Hi, > So, anybody got some cool procmail recipe code which causes something > to happen once-a-day, or not-within-24-hours-of-the-last time, or > similar? > With a cron job you can send an email to you with a given subject (Ex: "banana spambayes big cloud") procmail will see this subject line then lauch the training and discard the mail. 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From scales at zko.dec.com Thu Mar 25 17:19:02 2004 From: scales at zko.dec.com (Webb Scales) Date: Thu Mar 25 17:19:08 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] How to not filter selected messages References: <73571F155AAE164DB076A09B26D7357D03ABA0E2@lamail2.office.tmcs> Message-ID: <40635AD6.46064E6E@zko.dec.com> Paul Schauble wrote: > I have an Outlook rule that filters messages with a "secret" phrase in the > subject into a Priority folder. I would like to have these messages immune > to Spambayes filtering. > > I understand that Spambayes filters messages before the Outlook rules > operate. Is this correct? If so, how can I make this exception? I suspect that they are going to tell you that you cannot make it happen. But, the real question is, why would you want (or need) to make it happen?? SpamBayes can filter based on the subject line (although, I think you have to ask it to mine the headers), in which case (with a little training) anything with those words in the subject will always be scored as ham. (Which is the same result as making them immune to filtering.... :-) Webb -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Webb Scales Hewlett-Packard Company scales at zko.dec.com 110 Spit Brook Rd, ZKO2-3/N30 Voice: 603.884.2196, FAX: 603.884.0120 Nashua, NH 03062-2711 Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The tradeoff is that it will take longer for spam messages to disappear from your Inbox, especially if you have a number of new messages when you first start Outlook. -- Kenny Pitt _____ From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Paul Schauble Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 4:46 PM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] How to not filter selected messages I have an Outlook rule that filters messages with a "secret" phrase in the subject into a Priority folder. I would like to have these messages immune to Spambayes filtering. I understand that Spambayes filters messages before the Outlook rules operate. Is this correct? If so, how can I make this exception? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Some spam filtering is applied, but the filters here have to be much more conservative because we often discuss the contents of spam messages and even send spam clues or snippets from spam messages. -- Kenny Pitt From Paul.Schauble at ticketmaster.com Thu Mar 25 17:32:32 2004 From: Paul.Schauble at ticketmaster.com (Paul Schauble) Date: Thu Mar 25 17:31:34 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] How to not filter selected messages Message-ID: <73571F155AAE164DB076A09B26D7357D03ABA126@lamail2.office.tmcs> Perhaps it would work. My problem is that Spambayes doesn't filter on phrases, but on the individual words. I probably need to change my phrase to use a couple of unusual words. There's a tradeoff, though. If the words get unusual the people who send me mail will get it wrong. ++PLS _____ From: scales@sears.zko.dec.com [mailto:scales@sears.zko.dec.com] On Behalf Of Webb Scales Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 3:19 PM To: Paul Schauble Cc: spambayes@python.org Subject: Re: [Spambayes] How to not filter selected messages Paul Schauble wrote: I have an Outlook rule that filters messages with a "secret" phrase in the subject into a Priority folder. I would like to have these messages immune to Spambayes filtering. I understand that Spambayes filters messages before the Outlook rules operate. Is this correct? If so, how can I make this exception? I suspect that they are going to tell you that you cannot make it happen. But, the real question is, why would you want (or need) to make it happen?? SpamBayes can filter based on the subject line (although, I think you have to ask it to mine the headers), in which case (with a little training) anything with those words in the subject will always be scored as ham. (Which is the same result as making them immune to filtering.... :-) Webb -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Webb Scales Hewlett-Packard Company scales at zko.dec.com 110 Spit Brook Rd, ZKO2-3/N30 Voice: 603.884.2196, FAX: 603.884.0120 Nashua, NH 03062-2711 Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040325/dad29dc2/attachment.html From skip at pobox.com Thu Mar 25 17:46:16 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Thu Mar 25 17:46:30 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam on spambayes list In-Reply-To: <200403251616.37996.lhoffner@directedmotion.com> References: <200403251616.37996.lhoffner@directedmotion.com> Message-ID: <16483.24888.309124.467898@montanaro.dyndns.org> Lee> Does anyone else find it ironic that the spambayes list gets spam? No. All public mailing lists get spam. Some, as you observed, just filter them. The python-mode mailing list gets lots of spam too: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-mode/2004-March/thread.html Until I needed to search the March archives today I hadn't even noticed. I am going to work on a little post-processing to de-spam that list's archives. Lee> Or, are all of you running a well-trained Spambayes and not Lee> receiving this stuff? I suspect most of us have little trouble with this. If we did we'd either be working hard to improve Spambayes or looking elsewhere for spam filtering solutions. Lee> Until I get to configuring and running my new spambayes, this is Lee> going to try my patience. :-( The procmail list is wonderfully Lee> spam-free. There's a good reason why there are no spam filters on the Spambayes lists. People sometimes need to post spam with "what do you think about this?" sorts of questions. Having the list filtered would create more work for the moderators and make it more challenging to post examples for other members to consider. A couple days ago a guy in Italy posted a note to the procmail list asking about a spam he'd received. I assume that he didn't post the actual message because it would have been blocked. I had to ask him off-list to send me a copy. If this list wasn't devoted to the topic of spam, I'd agree that filtering it would be a reasonable thing to do, but it is, so it's not. -- Skip Montanaro Got gigs? http://www.musi-cal.com/submit.html Got spam? http://www.spambayes.org/ skip@pobox.com From scales at zko.dec.com Thu Mar 25 17:23:56 2004 From: scales at zko.dec.com (Webb Scales) Date: Thu Mar 25 17:46:53 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam on spambayes list References: <200403251616.37996.lhoffner@directedmotion.com> Message-ID: <40635BFC.AC81F220@zko.dec.com> Lee Hoffner wrote: > Does anyone else find it ironic that the spambayes list gets spam? Actually, it's not receiving spam (or, not much, anyway). What appears to have happened is that someone has used the list address as the return address to send spam (specifically, to send out a trojan horse). > Or, are all of you running a well-trained Spambayes and not receiving this > stuff? I have decided not to train my filter on these messages. For one thing, I don't want to confuse it about SB traffic; for another, if I ever get these sorts of bounces directly to me, I want to know (not that I could do anything about a spammer using my address as his return address, but I'd like to know it's being done, all the same). > The procmail list is wonderfully spam-free. Don't say that too loud.... Webb -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Webb Scales Hewlett-Packard Company scales at zko.dec.com 110 Spit Brook Rd, ZKO2-3/N30 Voice: 603.884.2196, FAX: 603.884.0120 Nashua, NH 03062-2711 Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From m.schubert1 at verizon.net Thu Mar 25 20:13:58 2004 From: m.schubert1 at verizon.net (CURTIS SCHUBERT) Date: Thu Mar 25 19:07:57 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Starting SpamBayes Message-ID: <001c01c412cf$a280d960$2f01a8c0@myhome.westell.com> Curt Schubert c.j.schubert@ieee.org using Windows98 trying to use SpamBayes version 1.0a9 Summary: I downloaded, installed, and tried to run SpamBayes, but nothing happens. Does it work with Windows 98? Is there something else that needs to be done? More Detail: I downloaded and ran spambayes-1.0a9.exe. The tray icon came up on the screen, but when I tried to open it nothing happened. When I tried to open the tray icon program within Program Files\Spambayes again nothing happened. Right clicking on the tray icon does not give the option to configure. I deleted everything and started over with the same results. Irrelevant Comments: When I was working as a radar system engineer at Raytheon, we use Bayes filters to process radar returns and predict the present position of targets given what was know about past position in the presence of noise. In some ways a similar application. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040325/70f99aec/attachment.html From Norton_AntiVirus_Gateways at toronto.bata.com Fri Mar 26 08:09:47 2004 From: Norton_AntiVirus_Gateways at toronto.bata.com (Norton_AntiVirus_Gateways@toronto.bata.com) Date: Fri Mar 26 08:09:53 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] The AntiVirus System detected a Virus Message-ID: The AntiVirus System has detected a virus in your e-mail. Please check your system for viruses. --- Scan information follows --- Result: Virus Detected Virus Name: W32.Netsky.P@mm File Attachment: message.scr Attachment Status: deleted --- Original message information follows --- From: spambayes@python.org To: probert@norimco.com Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 08:11:13 -0500 Subject: Mail Delivery (failure probert@norimco.com) Received: from norimco.com ([65.34.27.213]) by Viruswatch.toronto.bata.com (NAVGW 2.5.2.12) with SMTP id M2004032608084505409 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 08:08:46 -0500 From spam_control at cyrusone.com Fri Mar 26 11:34:22 2004 From: spam_control at cyrusone.com (spam_control@cyrusone.com) Date: Fri Mar 26 11:41:01 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Content violation Message-ID: Content violation found in email message. From: spambayes@python.org To: joang@milestonemortgage.com File(s): message.scr Matching filename: *.scr From l.kende at ch.timcal.com Fri Mar 26 11:46:34 2004 From: l.kende at ch.timcal.com (Kende Laszlo) Date: Fri Mar 26 11:53:34 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] no recover button Message-ID: <9A11A8442E35774FA83CDE6272EA67732D7005@timcal01.timcal.local> Hello, I've just installed version 0.9 plug-in (I have W2K and Outlook 2000). It seems to work fine, just as the previous versions did. Except, in the "Junk Suspects" view there is no "Recover from Spam" button; only "Delete as Spam". I can still drag hams from this folder to the Inbox, but does it really work, i.e. will the system learn that this was ham? Thanks Laszlo Kende -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040326/02251529/attachment.html From francois.granger at free.fr Fri Mar 26 12:06:06 2004 From: francois.granger at free.fr (Fran=?ISO-8859-1?B?5w==?=ois Granger) Date: Fri Mar 26 12:06:12 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes on Mac OS X Message-ID: I moved to a new Mac with 10.3.3, so I decided to do a fresh install of the latest of Spambayes. I downloaded the latest (b10) from CVS. It is still absolutely wonderfull. Trained on only 10 ham, 10 spam, it already filter most spams. Checking the documentation page, I thought that there was some room for a detailed proxy install for "Mac OS X newbie Unix users" and I started it. It is currently a text document. I can make it an Html one. I enclose it below for review. ======================================================== Mac OS X install Create a directory spambayes inside your user directory After download of Spambayes and decompressing, open a terminal window: fgranger$ cd /usr/local fgranger$ md bin fgranger$ chmod a+x bin fgranger$ cd /path/to/decompressed/spambayes replace by the name of the directory, or type "cd " in the terminal window then drag the directory icon from the finder to the terminal windows. fgranger$ python setup.py install fgranger$ cd build/scripts-2.3 fgranger$ pico spamd copy & past the following inside the window ---- start copy #!/bin/sh # # spamd This shell script takes care of starting and stopping # the spambayes deamon. # # Author: Dave Handley # Date: 11 Oct 03 # # Changes: Fran?ois Granger for Mac SO X # Date: 26 Mar 04 # # Source function library. #. /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions # Source networking configuration. #. /etc/sysconfig/network RETVAL=0 # See how we were called. case "$1" in start) # Start daemons. echo -n "Starting spamd: " cd /Users/fgranger/spambayes # replace fgranger by your login /usr/local/bin/sb_server.py & RETVAL=$? echo ;; stop) # Stop daemons. echo -n "Shutting down spamd: " killall sb_server.py RETVAL=$? echo ;; restart|reload) $0 stop $0 start RETVAL=$? ;; status) status sb_server.py RETVAL=$? ;; *) echo "Usage: spamd {start|stop|restart|status}" exit 1 esac exit $RETVAL ---- stop copy Then Ctrl-w, Ctrl-x fgranger$ chmod a+x spamd fgranger$ cp * /usr/local/bin fgranger$ cd /Users/fgranger/spambayes fgranger$ pico bayescustomize.ini Copy and past the following text inside the windows ---- start copy [Storage] persistent_use_database:pickle ---- stop copy Then Ctrl-w, Ctrl-x you can now type in : fgranger$ /usr/local/bin/spamd start After some days, you will only need to type: fgranger$ spamd start ======================================================== From stratford at comcast.net Fri Mar 26 12:52:50 2004 From: stratford at comcast.net (Cyndie) Date: Fri Mar 26 12:52:49 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Installation Problem Message-ID: <000f01c4135b$28117180$03683844@proctr01.fl.comcast.net> Hi. I downloaded the sb_server for use with Outlook Express. I use Windows 98. Here's the problem: When I double-click the icon nothing happens. When I first downloaded it I could get the tray icon to open and then right click, but when I tried to configure and save it would not save. Since then I've had problems. I uninstalled nad reinstalled the program but still can't get the tray to even open up. Any ideas? Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040326/1066c220/attachment.html From kennypitt at hotmail.com Fri Mar 26 15:12:31 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Fri Mar 26 15:13:42 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Installation Problem In-Reply-To: <000f01c4135b$28117180$03683844@proctr01.fl.comcast.net> Message-ID: What icon did you double-click? Was it the "SpamBayes Tray Icon" icon that was added to your desktop, or did you double-click one of the program files in the SpamBayes installation folder? If you double-click the sb_server file in your installation folder then it runs in the background with no tray icon, but in that case you should be able to connect using your Web browser by entering the URL http://localhost:8880. If you double-click the sb_service file then you won't get anything at all. The program file that is linked from the "SpamBayes Tray Icon" shortcut is sb_tray. -- Kenny Pitt _____ From: spambayes-bounces+kennypitt=hotmail.com@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces+kennypitt=hotmail.com@python.org] On Behalf Of Cyndie Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 12:53 PM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Installation Problem Hi. I downloaded the sb_server for use with Outlook Express. I use Windows 98. Here's the problem: When I double-click the icon nothing happens. When I first downloaded it I could get the tray icon to open and then right click, but when I tried to configure and save it would not save. Since then I've had problems. I uninstalled nad reinstalled the program but still can't get the tray to even open up. Any ideas? Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040326/e4155cc9/attachment.html From armeniamaw at att.net Fri Mar 26 15:17:52 2004 From: armeniamaw at att.net (Karla Sarmiento) Date: Fri Mar 26 15:14:36 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] C1ALI-S & LEV1T-RA a1l0ws men to achieve an erectiOn up to 36 hours after Ingesti0n . Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040326/570ed562/attachment.html From kennypitt at hotmail.com Fri Mar 26 15:26:30 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Fri Mar 26 15:27:45 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Starting SpamBayes In-Reply-To: <001c01c412cf$a280d960$2f01a8c0@myhome.westell.com> Message-ID: I've seen a couple of reports now that the proxy doesn't seem to do anything when run on Windows 98. I don't have access to a Win98 system myself, so I haven't been able to verify. Could you search your system for any files named "SpamBayesServer?.log" and send them to the list (the most recent logfile will be SpamBayesServer1.log and going up to SpamBayesServer4.log, I believe)? It sounds like the sb_tray app is encountering some kind of exception on Win98 that is causing it to abort, and hopefully there will be a logfile that has some more info about it. -- Kenny Pitt _____ From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of CURTIS SCHUBERT Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 8:14 PM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Starting SpamBayes using Windows98 trying to use SpamBayes version 1.0a9 Summary: I downloaded, installed, and tried to run SpamBayes, but nothing happens. Does it work with Windows 98? Is there something else that needs to be done? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040326/859ad2cf/attachment.html From ccooke at parallel-petro.com Fri Mar 26 16:35:15 2004 From: ccooke at parallel-petro.com (Charlotte Cooke) Date: Fri Mar 26 16:36:05 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Can you help Message-ID: Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 1532 bytes Desc: image001.jpg Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040326/698128c5/attachment-0001.jpe From m.schubert1 at verizon.net Fri Mar 26 19:20:34 2004 From: m.schubert1 at verizon.net (CURTIS SCHUBERT) Date: Fri Mar 26 18:14:26 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes does not work on this Windows 98 Message-ID: <005301c41391$52f21900$2f01a8c0@myhome.westell.com> Here are the two most recent log files. Curt Schubert SpamBayesServer1.log from C:\Windows\Temp\ Traceback (most recent call last): File "pop3proxy_tray.py", line 100, in ? File "sb_server.pyc", line 812, in ? File "sb_server.pyc", line 615, in __init__ File "sb_server.pyc", line 635, in init File "sb_server.pyc", line 802, in _addressAndPort ValueError: invalid literal for int(): localhostc1 SpamBayesServer2.log from C:\Windows\Temp\ Traceback (most recent call last): File "pop3proxy_tray.py", line 100, in ? File "sb_server.pyc", line 812, in ? File "sb_server.pyc", line 615, in __init__ File "sb_server.pyc", line 635, in init File "sb_server.pyc", line 802, in _addressAndPort ValueError: invalid literal for int(): localhostc1 Replying to: I've seen a couple of reports now that the proxy doesn't seem to do anything when run on Windows 98. I don't have access to a Win98 system myself, so I haven't been able to verify. Could you search your system for any files named "SpamBayesServer?.log" and send them to the list (the most recent logfile will be SpamBayesServer1.log and going up to SpamBayesServer4.log, I believe)? It sounds like the sb_tray app is encountering some kind of exception on Win98 that is causing it to abort, and hopefully there will be a logfile that has some more info about it. -- Kenny Pitt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040326/b1c42833/attachment.html From norbert at infocatch.com Fri Mar 26 18:48:15 2004 From: norbert at infocatch.com (Norbert Marrale) Date: Fri Mar 26 18:48:28 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Differences between plugin and proxy databases? - see traceback Message-ID: <000101c4138c$cf36f0d0$0200a8c0@ICLAPTOP> Wondering if I did the "Right Thing TM" here: Using the latest Win32 binary. Outlook Plugin has been training for about a month now (1100 ham, 329 spam) and I'm very happy with the results so far. Except: the "New Mail Icon" irritates me to no end and I've decided to filter messages on a separate machine with the email proxy. This allows me set up Outlook to junk all tagged emails on arrival - without the icon appearing. Here's what I did: shut down the server and tray icon, copied the default plugin databases: default_bayes_database.db and default_message_database.db to the proxy machine and renamed them to hammie.db and spambayes.messageinfo.db restarted the server, fired up Mozilla, and smiled upon seeing: Emails classified this session: 0 spam, 0 ham, 0 unsure. Total emails trained: Spam: 329 Ham: 1100 Being a curious George: I decided to click the "More Statistics..." link, and got a nice traceback (see below)... My natural reaction would be to stop the server, delete the .pyc files and restart... Am I going to regret this? Filtering seems to still work fine BTW. Please advise. Norbert Marrale -- 500 Server error Traceback (most recent call last): File "spambayes\Dibbler.pyc", line 461, in found_terminator File "spambayes\UserInterface.pyc", line 1016, in onStats File "spambayes\Stats.pyc", line 42, in __init__ File "spambayes\Stats.pyc", line 62, in CalculateStats File "spambayes\message.pyc", line 118, in _getState File "shelve.pyc", line 119, in __getitem__ UnpicklingError: unpickling stack underflow From memyrc at comcast.net Fri Mar 26 18:57:04 2004 From: memyrc at comcast.net (memyrc@comcast.net) Date: Fri Mar 26 18:57:09 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy Message-ID: A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: SpamBayesServer1.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 322 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040326/d867c217/SpamBayesServer1.obj -------------- next part -------------- I am using SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 0.4 (February 2004) (binary), with version 2.3.2+ (#49, Oct 23 2003, 15:50:06) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] of Python; my operating system is Windows 5.1.2600.2 (Service Pack 1). I have trained 0 ham and 2 spam. The problem I am having is I cannot view the config page!!! From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Mar 26 21:31:04 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Mar 26 21:31:23 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Differences between plugin and proxy databases? - seetraceback In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305A49B85@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677B7B@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Here's what I did: > > shut down the server and tray icon, copied the default plugin > databases: > > default_bayes_database.db and default_message_database.db > > to the proxy machine and renamed them to > > hammie.db and spambayes.messageinfo.db The statistics databases (default_bayes_database.db and hammie.db) are exactly the same. The 'message info' databases (default_message_database.db and spambayes.messageinfo.db) are completely different. Just delete the spambayes.messageinfo.db file. This will have no ill effects (statistics will start afresh, and you won't be able to correct the training of any old messages, but there's no way that you could, when moving from the plug-in to sb_server). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From teacher at bc.cablemas.com Fri Mar 26 21:36:32 2004 From: teacher at bc.cablemas.com (Rob Rodgers) Date: Fri Mar 26 21:37:09 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 97 compatibility Message-ID: <000501c413a4$513c7f20$d5cb4dc8@rodgers.cablemas.com> Will SpamBayes work with Outlook 97? English Corner ESL activities and handouts http://www.angelfire.com/wi3/englishcorner/ From Majordomo-owner at GreatCircle.COM Sat Mar 27 02:17:55 2004 From: Majordomo-owner at GreatCircle.COM (Majordomo-owner@GreatCircle.COM) Date: Sat Mar 27 02:29:01 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Majordomo results: Re: Delivery Server Message-ID: <20040327071755.EE69532E055@mycroft.greatcircle.com> >>>> Protected message is attached. The command "Protected" is invalid. Use the "help topics" command to see a list of valid commands. Valid commands processed: 0 0 succeeded, 0 stalled, and 0 failed. -------------- next part -------------- Ignoring part of type application/octet-stream. From IMSS1postmaster at vugames.com Sat Mar 27 03:46:55 2004 From: IMSS1postmaster at vugames.com (Mail Notification) Date: Sat Mar 27 03:45:25 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] =?us-ascii?Q?Thank_you_for_contacting_Technical_support=2FCustomer_ se?= rvice Message-ID: Hello, thank you for contacting Technical support/Customer service. Please click on the link below to go to our online support site. http://support.vugames.com Do not respond to this message as we will not see it. From skip at pobox.com Sat Mar 27 09:09:27 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Sat Mar 27 09:09:34 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes does not work on this Windows 98 In-Reply-To: <005301c41391$52f21900$2f01a8c0@myhome.westell.com> References: <005301c41391$52f21900$2f01a8c0@myhome.westell.com> Message-ID: <16485.35607.275903.70852@montanaro.dyndns.org> Curtis> ValueError: invalid literal for int(): localhostc1 Looks like maybe you typed in "localhostc1" in a configuration slot. Try revisiting and double-check that all the values are what they should be. "localhost" would be a common name for your local machine (the Win98 one). Anywhere it asks you for a "port", the most likely default would be 110. Skip From skip at pobox.com Sat Mar 27 09:17:31 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Sat Mar 27 09:17:42 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 97 compatibility In-Reply-To: <000501c413a4$513c7f20$d5cb4dc8@rodgers.cablemas.com> References: <000501c413a4$513c7f20$d5cb4dc8@rodgers.cablemas.com> Message-ID: <16485.36091.190925.153821@montanaro.dyndns.org> Rob> Will SpamBayes work with Outlook 97? Nope. OL2k or later only. The OL97 external API (so I'm told) is pretty feeble, making an OL97 plugin a practical impossibility. Skip From dtdavis at earthlink.net Sat Mar 27 12:05:14 2004 From: dtdavis at earthlink.net (dtdavis@earthlink.net) Date: Sat Mar 27 12:05:18 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Junk e-mail folder retention Message-ID: Once an e-mail is recognized, either automatically or manually, is it necessary to keep it in the Junk e-mail folder? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040327/4e961c27/attachment.html From jmarceau at bellsouth.net Sat Mar 27 12:34:26 2004 From: jmarceau at bellsouth.net (Joanne Marceau) Date: Sat Mar 27 12:34:42 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Message-ID: <000001c41421$c3c5c150$8a0cfea9@homeu15ew96gjr> Good afternoon, I am using XP Pro. Microsoft Outlook and I just installed SpamBayes. When I ask Sham to "Delete as Spam", it is asking me to enable Spam!! How do I enable Spam? Thank you _____ Upgrade Your Email - Click here! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040327/974859ae/attachment.html From rick at drinknow.net Sat Mar 27 12:49:54 2004 From: rick at drinknow.net (Rick Gregory) Date: Sat Mar 27 12:49:58 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes can't find bsddb Message-ID: <4065BEC2.5020104@drinknow.net> Sigh... I used tgo run SB in the a2/a3 days and it worked fine. Then I started using Thunderbird and found that it was catching most junk, so I used that instead. Recently my Thunderbird junk filter isn't catching enough spam, so I downloaded a9. When I run sb_imapfilter on my Powerbook (OS X 10.3.3, Python 2.3) I get: ImportError: No module named _bsddb Exception exceptions.AttributeError: "'MessageInfoDB' object has no attribute 'db'" in > ignored On my Linux server at home (that serves my personal email account) I get: You do not have a dbm module available to use. You need to either use a pickle (see the FAQ), use Python 2.3 (or above), or install a dbm module such as bsddb (see http://sf.net/projects/pybsddb). Now, the sb FAQ asserts I should have all of this with Python 2.3, so I assume it's a pathing error. The problem is that I don't know that much about Python environment variables. What should I verify/set to ensure that bsddb is found? INcidentally, I manually installed Berkely db 4.2 and pysbddb on my linux box, so I know it's there. thanks, rick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040327/5852f69c/attachment.html From skip at pobox.com Sat Mar 27 14:15:00 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Sat Mar 27 14:15:51 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes can't find bsddb In-Reply-To: <4065BEC2.5020104@drinknow.net> References: <4065BEC2.5020104@drinknow.net> Message-ID: <16485.53940.625925.231478@montanaro.dyndns.org> Rick> When I run sb_imapfilter on my Powerbook (OS X 10.3.3, Python 2.3) Rick> I get: Rick> ImportError: No module named _bsddb Rick> Exception exceptions.AttributeError: "'MessageInfoDB' object has no Rick> attribute 'db'" in > ignored On your Mac OSX box does your Python installation have a _bsddb.so file in the lib-dynload directory? If not, it's probably because whatever Berkeley DB is installed is not recent enough so the Python build process refused to build it. The version which comes in /usr/lib is the old 1.85 version. On my system I get it from the Fink project. If you do have a lib-dynload/_bsddb.so file, was does otool tell you about its library dependencies? % otool -L /Users/skip/local/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/_bsddb.so /Users/skip/local/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/_bsddb.so: /sw/lib/libdb-3.3.dylib (compatibility version 3.3.0, current version 3.3.11) /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 63.0.0) Rick> You do not have a dbm module available to use. You need to Rick> either use a pickle (see the FAQ), use Python 2.3 (or above), Rick> or install a dbm module such as bsddb (see Rick> http://sf.net/projects/pybsddb). Rick> Now, the sb FAQ asserts I should have all of this with Python 2.3, Rick> so I assume it's a pathing error. The problem is that I don't know Rick> that much about Python environment variables. What should I Rick> verify/set to ensure that bsddb is found? Rick> INcidentally, I manually installed Berkely db 4.2 and pysbddb on Rick> my linux box, so I know it's there. Did you maybe install it after installing Python? If so, rebuild/reinstall Python. The distutils stuff should notice the new Berkeley DB (probably installed in /usr/local/BerkeleyDB4.2). Skip From rick at drinknow.net Sat Mar 27 14:49:25 2004 From: rick at drinknow.net (Rick Gregory) Date: Sat Mar 27 14:49:34 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes can't find bsddb In-Reply-To: <16485.53940.625925.231478@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <4065BEC2.5020104@drinknow.net> <16485.53940.625925.231478@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <4065DAC5.2090407@drinknow.net> Ah..... You nailed the OS X issue. Thanks. On my Linux box I switched to pickle for now, but I'll rebuild Python - I think I did install the Berkeley db after building Python. Thanks! Skip Montanaro wrote: > Rick> When I run sb_imapfilter on my Powerbook (OS X 10.3.3, Python 2.3) > Rick> I get: > > Rick> ImportError: No module named _bsddb > Rick> Exception exceptions.AttributeError: "'MessageInfoDB' object has no > Rick> attribute 'db'" in Rick> > ignored > >On your Mac OSX box does your Python installation have a _bsddb.so file in >the lib-dynload directory? If not, it's probably because whatever Berkeley >DB is installed is not recent enough so the Python build process refused to >build it. The version which comes in /usr/lib is the old 1.85 version. On >my system I get it from the Fink project. If you do have a >lib-dynload/_bsddb.so file, was does otool tell you about its library >dependencies? > > % otool -L /Users/skip/local/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/_bsddb.so > /Users/skip/local/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/_bsddb.so: > /sw/lib/libdb-3.3.dylib (compatibility version 3.3.0, current version 3.3.11) > /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 63.0.0) > > > Rick> You do not have a dbm module available to use. You need to > Rick> either use a pickle (see the FAQ), use Python 2.3 (or above), > Rick> or install a dbm module such as bsddb (see > Rick> http://sf.net/projects/pybsddb). > > Rick> Now, the sb FAQ asserts I should have all of this with Python 2.3, > Rick> so I assume it's a pathing error. The problem is that I don't know > Rick> that much about Python environment variables. What should I > Rick> verify/set to ensure that bsddb is found? > > Rick> INcidentally, I manually installed Berkely db 4.2 and pysbddb on > Rick> my linux box, so I know it's there. > >Did you maybe install it after installing Python? If so, rebuild/reinstall >Python. The distutils stuff should notice the new Berkeley DB (probably >installed in /usr/local/BerkeleyDB4.2). > >Skip > > From Amir_Katz at bmc.com Sat Mar 27 15:51:07 2004 From: Amir_Katz at bmc.com (Katz, Amir) Date: Sat Mar 27 15:53:01 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] help Message-ID: 1. Did you set a different port in OE configuration (in addition to pointing it to POP3 host=localhost)? 2. 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The command line was cat email.msg | sb_nbserver.py -d my_hammie.db Remi -- Remi Ricard From robert at rlweiner.com Sat Mar 27 20:45:16 2004 From: robert at rlweiner.com (Robert L. Weiner) Date: Sat Mar 27 18:45:32 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] using SpamBayes with Cloudmark Spamnet Message-ID: I searched the list of bugs and didn't see this issue addressed. I use both SpamBayes and Cloudmark's SpamNet. (Now that I have SpamBayes, I really don't need SpamNet to block spam -- SpamNet only finds one or two messages a week that SpamBayes misses. However, I still want to use SpamNet so I can identify spam for the rest of the Cloudmark network.) I would like to be able to use SpamNet to report (block) messages that SpamBayes identifies. However, it looks like clicking SpamNet's "Block" button has the same effect as clicking SpamBayes's "Recover from Spam" button -- the spam score of the affected message is reduced to nearly zero. 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Monastra Jr. [mailto:jamonastra@bigzoo.net] Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 15:32 To: spambayes@python.org Cc: Dad BigZoo Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy I am using SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 0.4 (February 2004) (binary), with version 2.3.2+ (#49, Oct 23 2003, 15:50:06) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] of Python; my operating system is Windows 4.10.67766446.1 ( A ). I have trained 27 ham and 20 spam. I am using Outlook Express. The problem I am having is I can not figure out how to get my messages that are marked as SPAM deleted from my Inbox (or from never showing up in my INBOX). I read the FAQs and 3.7 talks about enabling spambayes but the file it refers to for doing this C:\WINDOWS\Application Data\SpamBayes\Proxy\bayescustomize.ini. does not exist on my computer. I follow the path to the Proxy folder and there is a bayescustomize notepad file but no bayescustomize.ini. Maybe this isn't even what I should be doing. I'm a computer novice. The bottom line is that spambayes is running and properly classifying messages but I can't figure out the last step to prevent me from having to deal with them. Thanks in advance for any help you can provide. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040328/0e0c4708/attachment.html From dlg at acm.org Sun Mar 28 11:41:58 2004 From: dlg at acm.org (David L. Grobstein) Date: Sun Mar 28 11:42:08 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Remove from Spam button does not appear Message-ID: <000001c414e3$9643bd50$3202a8c0@nr1> I have had to reinstall my operating system - Windows XP Pro. I downloaded the latest version of SpamBayes - spambayes-1.0a9.exe After installing it I retrained it on a Spam list of over 5000 email. Everything appeared to be working fine except that there is no toolbar button to remove a message from spam. I have read all the available website info for troubleshooting and bug reports. The closest I found were buttons appearing but not working. That is the opposite of my problem of a missing button. I uninstalled SpamBayes, removed the toolbar from Outlook, and deleted the SpamBayes folder from my Program Files folder. I reinstalled SpamBayes, but the result is the same - still no remove from spam button. Any help would be appreciated. - Dave -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 1720 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040328/b9af10e9/winmail.bin From ccech at ix.netcom.com Sun Mar 28 13:14:13 2004 From: ccech at ix.netcom.com (Carol and Chuck Cech) Date: Sun Mar 28 13:14:29 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Upgrading to the latest version Message-ID: <000201c414f0$7cc5a250$7b00a8c0@D7MLY011> Should I remove the present version of SpamBayes prior to installing a newer version? Thanks for this great program! 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I have no idea how the folder list could have been duplicated but it all was, headed by a duplicated top level Personal Folders icon with all the following duplicated folders collapsed under it. I have deleted all the duplicated folders but Outlook will not let me delete the duplicate Personal Folders icon nor the Deleted Items folder below it. Sorry to raise a non-issue. Pilot error. - Dave - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - I have had to reinstall my operating system - Windows XP Pro. I downloaded the latest version of SpamBayes - spambayes-1.0a9.exe After installing it I retrained it on a Spam list of over 5000 email. Everything appeared to be working fine except that there is no toolbar button to remove a message from spam. - Dave -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 1976 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040328/f370f06d/winmail.bin From skip at pobox.com Sun Mar 28 17:59:58 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Sun Mar 28 18:00:20 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Cannot connect to socket with sb_bnserver.py In-Reply-To: <1080424390.4065.24.camel@porsche.hq.simlog.com> References: <1080424390.4065.24.camel@porsche.hq.simlog.com> Message-ID: <16487.22766.448116.900778@montanaro.dyndns.org> Remi> The command line was Remi> cat email.msg | sb_nbserver.py -d my_hammie.db Shouldn't you be invoking sb_bnfilter.py like so: cat email.msg | sb_bnfilter.py -d my_hammie.db or even sb_bnfilter.py -d my_hammie.db < email.msg ? That said, I had some problems in this regard as well. I haven't looked into it yet. It does seem like sb_bnfilter.py shows some promise: % time for f in spam? ; do sb_bnfilter.py < $f >/dev/null; done real 0m2.377s user 0m1.000s sys 0m0.540s % time for f in spam? ; do sb_filter.py < $f >/dev/null; done real 0m8.594s user 0m6.280s sys 0m2.090s The timing for the sb_bnfilter.py was after the server had already been started. "spam?" expanded to eight files. With the server not already started I got (added a print to make sure the server was only started once): % time for f in spam? ; do sb_bnfilter.py < $f >/dev/null; done forking server real 0m3.654s user 0m1.030s sys 0m0.520s Skip From skip at pobox.com Sun Mar 28 18:23:02 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Sun Mar 28 19:55:43 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy In-Reply-To: <000901c414c9$0623ad80$11584a43@voicenet.com> References: <000901c414c9$0623ad80$11584a43@voicenet.com> Message-ID: <16487.24150.848514.902484@montanaro.dyndns.org> John> I am using Outlook Express. The problem I am having is I can not John> figure out how to get my messages that are marked as SPAM deleted John> from my Inbox (or from never showing up in my INBOX). You need to set the "notate to" configuration option and then write a rule for OE which detects the modified header containing "spam" and writes it to your spam mailbox. Take a look at question 2.1 of the FAQ: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#does-spambayes-work-with-outlook-express Skip From jhatiles at uga.edu Sun Mar 28 21:03:00 2004 From: jhatiles at uga.edu (Jorge H. Atiles) Date: Sun Mar 28 21:03:07 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Out of the Office Message-ID: <200403290203.AMI47493@punts1.cc.uga.edu> Thanks for your message. Dr. Atiles will be out of the office until April 5, 2004. Please look for a reply after this date. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Mar 28 21:18:30 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun Mar 28 21:18:56 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] using SpamBayes with Cloudmark Spamnet In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305A49C86@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2B5F@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > However, it looks like clicking SpamNet's "Block" button > has the same effect as clicking SpamBayes's "Recover from > Spam" button -- the spam score of the affected message is > reduced to nearly zero. I assume that this also messes with > SpamBayes database, and affects its ability to properly > identify future spam. > > I think that SpamBayes scores should only be changed when > I click the "Delete as Spam" and "Recover from Spam" buttons. Whatever is changing the score here, it's not SpamBayes. SpamBayes will only change the score when the message is (re)scored - when it's first seen, when you do a "Filter Now", or when you use one of the two SpamBayes buttons. I assume it's the Cloudmark plug-in that's doing this. Does it perhaps also use a custom Outlook field called "spam"? If so, then they're trying to use the same one, which might cause troubles. You can set SpamBayes to use a different field name (the "field_score_name" option in the "General" section of the *outlook* spambayes configuration file, but this is highly experimental. Anyway, assuming that Cloudmark aren't hooking into SpamBayes (it seems pretty unlikely), then this is only effecting the displayed score, not the databases, so the effect is pretty minimal. Try viewing the "Spam Clues" for one of these messages, and see if they change (particularly the reported score) after using the "Block" button. =Tony Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Mar 28 21:20:30 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun Mar 28 21:21:05 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Junk e-mail folder retention In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305A49C75@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677B83@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Once an e-mail is recognized, either automatically or > manually, is it necessary to keep it in the Junk e-mail folder? Please see FAQ 4.6: =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Mar 28 21:22:34 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun Mar 28 21:22:52 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Can you help In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305A49B81@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677B84@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I recently installed SpamBayes on sever computers > in our office. We've been very pleased with it's > performance. However, one user's toolbar has become > inactive. The buttons are there but don't respond > when pressed.even the drop-down for configuring. > I have re-installed the software and the problem > continues. The other 3 systems with SpamBayes are > functioning correctly. Have you any suggestion for us? Have you checked to see if Outlook has disabled the plug-in? (I believe this only applies to Outlook 2002 (XP) and above). >From the (Outlook) Help menu, choose About Microsoft Outlook, then click Disabled Items in the dialog that appears. SpamBayes might be listed there, and you can simply reenable it. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Mar 28 21:23:59 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun Mar 28 21:24:07 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Upgrading to the latest version In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305A49C91@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677B85@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Should I remove the present version of SpamBayes > prior to installing a newer version? This may or may not be necessary, depending on a whole heap of things, but uninstalling the old version definitely won't do any harm, so yes, this is a good idea. Uninstalling doesn't remove any of your configuration or training data, so there should be no real cost to doing this. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Mar 28 21:28:40 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun Mar 28 21:28:47 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305A49C76@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677B86@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I am using XP Pro. Microsoft Outlook and I just installed > SpamBayes. When I ask Sham to "Delete as Spam", > it is asking me to enable Spam!! > > How do I enable Spam? Please see FAQ 3.7: =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Mar 28 21:57:26 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun Mar 28 21:57:33 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305A49B86@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677B8B@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > The problem I am having > is I cannot view the config page!!! What happens when you try? Does it give you an error message, just not display, or what? The more details you can provide, the easier it is for us to help. In particular, if there's an error message, it would be best to copy it (exactly) into a reply to this. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 29 00:56:08 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Mar 29 00:56:21 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] no recover button In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305A49A7B@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677B99@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I've just installed version 0.9 plug-in (I have > W2K and Outlook 2000). It seems to work fine, just > as the previous versions did. Except, in the > "Junk Suspects" view there is no "Recover from Spam" > button; only "Delete as Spam". Have you checked: 1. You're definitely in the right folder (by looking in the Filtering tab in the Manager dialog, and checking not just the name, but clicking Browse and checking that it's the right folder by that name). 2. That Outlook simply isn't hiding it from you because there isn't room (there would be a >> and down arrow at the end of the toolbar). There have been a reasonable number of reports of this with 1.0a9, making me think that maybe there is a bug, except that no-one has yet responded to the above suggestions saying that they don't work, so maybe there isn't. > I can still drag hams > from this folder to the Inbox, but does it really work, > i.e. will the system learn that this was ham? It should yes, if you are filtering the Inbox, and incremental training is turned on. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 29 01:02:46 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Mar 29 01:03:32 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: [spambayes-dev] Moving database from Outlook plugin to POP3 server? In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305A49C31@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2B62@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I plan to export all mail currently in Outlook to Thunderbird. > Given that, how can i best preserve (or re-capitulate) what's in > my corpus? There's no difference between the statistics databases that the plug-in and sb_server use. You can simply copy across the default_bayes_database.db file and use it as is (either renaming it to hammie.db and putting it in a "Proxy" directory in the SpamBayes data directory that the plug-in uses, or using the configuration page to enter in the path to the file without renaming it). The other 'message info' databases are completely incompatible, and it's not even worth trying to convert between the two. The only thing you'll lose is that statistics will start afresh, and you won't be able to correct training of already trained messages (even if you did convert the database, sb_server wouldn't be able to find the message anyway, so it still wouldn't work). > Thanks for your time & attention -- I realize I'm asking in what is > primarily a developer's list. In the future, non-development questions like this would be much better off going to spambayes@python.org. You're also likely to get a quicker response. =Tony Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 29 01:06:42 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Mar 29 01:06:55 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Images In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305A4974F@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677B9B@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I worked any time with V 0.6 and change > the pictures/icons in the folder /img > I changed to Version 0.9 an I missing the icons! > I?s possible to work with my own icons?? I'm not 100%, but I think that the images have since been changed to be built into the .dll rather than loaded separately, and so this trick isn't possible anymore, unless you can edit them in there somehow. On the other hand, if you run the plug-in from source, you can definitely still do this. Whether or not that's worth it is another question... =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From rick at drinknow.net Mon Mar 29 01:06:58 2004 From: rick at drinknow.net (Rick Gregory) Date: Mon Mar 29 01:07:06 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] sb_imapfilter.py crashes after a few hours. Message-ID: <4067BD02.5060505@drinknow.net> I'm running a9 and periodically sb_imapfilter crashes. I run it by issuing: python sb_imapfilter.py -c -t -l 5 & Everything's fine, but then after some period less than 24 hours it exits with this traceback: Traceback (most recent call last): File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 857, in ? run() File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 847, in run imap_filter.Filter() File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 719, in Filter self.unsure_folder) File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 633, in Filter for msg in self: File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 528, in __iter__ yield self[key] File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 560, in __getitem__ data = _extract_fetch_data(response[1][0]) File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 162, in _extract_fetch_data mo = FETCH_RESPONSE_RE.match(response) TypeError: expected string or buffer Vitals: Python 2.3.2, Mandrake Linux 9.1, filtering a remote IMAP server running Courier with SSL on. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 29 01:14:06 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Mar 29 01:14:17 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Help---Still no luck running spambayes on an NTsystem?? Answers to Kenny Pitt, Tony Meyer and Sean True. In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305A49757@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2B63@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > The only thing close to Active Python I have on my > machine is python23 and pythoncom23. Both are dll's and were > in the INBOXER folder. Remnants of an attempt to install > INBOXER. They stayed around after I couldn't get inboxer to > install. Since deleted. If InBoxer won't install either, I'm not really sure what to try. I'm guessing that InBoxer uses a quite different install method (I've never actually tried it), so it seems unlikely that it's a bug in either system's install process. > There are no entries in the com-addin on outlook2000. This indicates that the plug-in is not installed. > There are no spambayes logs anywhere that the "find" command > can locate. The view command is set to "Show all files" . [...] > Went back and installed Spambayes. The install went all the > way through to the Finished page. Still no tool bar. I'm baffled as to how the install could finish without a log being created. At the end of the install, the little application that registers the plug-in with Outlook should be launched, which would create a log file whether it succeeded or not. Even if the log file couldn't be created for some reason (read-only temp directory?), I would have thought that an error would be displayed. In the bin directory inside the directory you are installing spambayes into, there should be an application called "outlook_addin_register.exe". Try running that and see if that does the install, or if not, then if it creates a log file. If it doesn't even do that, I'm at a loss as to what to suggest. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 29 01:16:11 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Mar 29 01:16:23 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] sb_imapfilter.py crashes after a few hours. In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305A49F86@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677B9D@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I'm running a9 and periodically sb_imapfilter crashes. I run > it by issuing: > > python sb_imapfilter.py -c -t -l 5 & > > Everything's fine, but then after some period less than 24 hours it > exits with this traceback: [...] > mo = FETCH_RESPONSE_RE.match(response) > TypeError: expected string or buffer This is a known bug with 1.0a9, and has been fixed in CVS. We're hoping to get a new release out this week, so all should be good for you soon! =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 29 01:32:40 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Mar 29 01:33:02 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Do you have a Macintosh Product In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305A49B87@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677B9E@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I unpacked the firle and looked at the readme file. It does > not explain where the files are placed. Please advise. I > attached a copy of the readme for your review. This readme is really old. What version of spambayes are you trying to install? I would highly recommend using the latest (1.0a9), which you can get from our website: . The readme is *much* improved. In other news, Fran?ois Granger has just submitted a "how to" for setting up Spambayes with Mac OS X 10.3.3 (see the archives of the spambayes@python.org list, or it'll soon be on the website, too). Hopefully that'll also help. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Mar 29 01:39:11 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Mar 29 01:39:19 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes on Mac OS X In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305A49A84@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2B64@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I moved to a new Mac with 10.3.3, so I decided to do a fresh > install of the latest of Spambayes. I downloaded the latest > (b10) from CVS. [...] > Checking the documentation page, I thought that there was > some room for a detailed proxy install for "Mac OS X newbie > Unix users" and I started it. Room, and then some . (Thanks muchly!) > It is currently a text document. I can make it an Html one. > > I enclose it below for review. Could you make it a reST one? That's what all the other (apart from the FAQ) website files are at the moment, with some magic turning them into HTML when they get pushed to the live site. Otherwise just the text should be fine, and I can convert it (it's just headings and some preformatted text, really). [...] > fgranger$ cd /Users/fgranger/spambayes > fgranger$ pico bayescustomize.ini > > Copy and past the following text inside the windows > > ---- start copy > [Storage] > persistent_use_database:pickle Two questions with this (with regards to making it a generic how-to, rather than specific for your been-using-spambayes-forever system): 1. Any reason why it's better to use a pickle rather than bsddb? 2. Any reason in particular to manually edit the baysecustomize.ini file rather than launch a browser and use the config page to do it? =Tony Meyer From rick at drinknow.net Mon Mar 29 01:59:34 2004 From: rick at drinknow.net (Rick Gregory) Date: Mon Mar 29 01:59:44 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] sb_imapfilter.py crashes after a few hours. In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677B9D@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677B9D@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <4067C956.6080800@drinknow.net> Cool. Thanks for the quick response. I'll watch out for the next release... Tony Meyer wrote: >>I'm running a9 and periodically sb_imapfilter crashes. I run >>it by issuing: >> >>python sb_imapfilter.py -c -t -l 5 & >> >>Everything's fine, but then after some period less than 24 hours it >>exits with this traceback: >> >> >[...] > > >> mo = FETCH_RESPONSE_RE.match(response) >>TypeError: expected string or buffer >> >> > >This is a known bug with 1.0a9, and has been fixed in CVS. We're hoping to >get a new release out this week, so all should be good for you soon! > >=Tony Meyer > >--- >Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies >(reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This >way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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You get to that exception after two retries of (fork a new server; sleep). On the second retry sb_client unlinks the socket. Getting ECONNREFUSED ('Connection refused') rather than ENOENT means we know the server at least got as far as creating the socket, but then failed to listen on it. That would be consistent with a failure to create your hammie filter.... Did you have any other tracebacks? Or maybe it is just timing.... I can see the timings in the connect retry loop might be a little tight for anyone using a pickle file rather than dbm (but you arent) or if your database is on briefly-disconnected nfs. Or perhaps even just on a slower maching - I originally set up the retry loop when the sb_bnserver initialisation order was different. Ive just committed some changes to the retry loop to be more generous here. -- Toby Dickenson From l.kende at ch.timcal.com Mon Mar 29 02:58:26 2004 From: l.kende at ch.timcal.com (Kende Laszlo) Date: Mon Mar 29 03:18:29 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] no recover button Message-ID: <9A11A8442E35774FA83CDE6272EA67732D7008@timcal01.timcal.local> I appreciate the quick reaction. If only the rest of the business and IT world worked like this... 1. Yes, I am in the right folder 2. No, Outlook is not just hiding it in the toolbar. 3. Actually, there is one more curious thing: in the Outlook view I use the Outlook Shortcuts bar. Outlook gives me the count of items in each folder: Inbox, Sent Items, Deleted Items, Junk E-mail (SpamBayes folder), but not of those in the Junk Suspects folder (even if the items are correctly there)! The whole thing is not dramatic since I can perfectly use SpamBayes, I am just curious. Maybe it is still a bug. Thanks Laszlo Kende +++ -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: luned?, 29. marzo 2004 07:56 To: Kende Laszlo; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] no recover button > I've just installed version 0.9 plug-in (I have > W2K and Outlook 2000). It seems to work fine, just > as the previous versions did. Except, in the > "Junk Suspects" view there is no "Recover from Spam" > button; only "Delete as Spam". Have you checked: 1. You're definitely in the right folder (by looking in the Filtering tab in the Manager dialog, and checking not just the name, but clicking Browse and checking that it's the right folder by that name). 2. That Outlook simply isn't hiding it from you because there isn't room (there would be a >> and down arrow at the end of the toolbar). There have been a reasonable number of reports of this with 1.0a9, making me think that maybe there is a bug, except that no-one has yet responded to the above suggestions saying that they don't work, so maybe there isn't. > I can still drag hams > from this folder to the Inbox, but does it really work, > i.e. will the system learn that this was ham? It should yes, if you are filtering the Inbox, and incremental training is turned on. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From rcharbon at mitre.org Mon Mar 29 07:47:40 2004 From: rcharbon at mitre.org (Ray Charbonneau) Date: Mon Mar 29 07:47:53 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Slow filtering after installing Office XP SP3? Message-ID: <00c101c4158c$05583c90$1b375381@MITRE.ORG> Has anyone else noticed that after installing Office XP SP3 on a system running v .9 of the SpamBayes plug-in for Outlook against my IMAP inbox, spam filtering now takes excessive amount of time? When a new mail message comes in, I have plenty of time to read it and erroneously think I need to "delete as spam" before the filter moves it to my spam folder. First thing in the AM, when I might have 60 new messages (of which maybe half are spam), the mail headers come in, then the bodies, then slowly, one at a time, the spam is filtered out. -- Ray Charbonneau R107 - Enterprise Desktop Solutions The MITRE Corporation From jasonsilver at crookedbush.com Mon Mar 29 07:58:10 2004 From: jasonsilver at crookedbush.com (Jason Silver - CrookedBush.com) Date: Mon Mar 29 07:58:23 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Logging In Message-ID: <058801c4158d$7cfa0a70$6401a8c0@JASON> Dear people, In the advanced settings of SpamBayes, I tried to set up my PC to be accessible from any PC in the household by allowing the IP range if 192.168.1.*. I must have misunderstood the directions, for I thought it said I could allow only the localhost to connect by putting localhost. I assumed the reverse was true: that to allow all computers on the network to connect I should remove localhost from the list. So I did. And now I am unable to log in to the configuration page or to review messages. I am prompted for the password, and the get the standard 'The page can not be displayed' error from IE. Any suggestions for resetting the IP range without logging in? I thought also it might have been a result of using the more secure form of security. Thanks in advance for your help. Spambayes is incredible so far. With well over 300 spam messages a day it is learning incredible fast and saving me a lot of time. (I used my existing spam trap (Outlook Express Inbox Assistant) to forward spam to the Spambayes server. It's pretty incredible how efficient Spambayes is! Yours, Jason Silver ________________________________ www.CrookedBush.com Creative Internet Solutions From papaDoc at videotron.ca Mon Mar 29 08:36:59 2004 From: papaDoc at videotron.ca (papaDoc) Date: Mon Mar 29 08:38:03 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Cannot connect to socket with sb_bnserver.py In-Reply-To: <16487.22766.448116.900778@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <1080424390.4065.24.camel@porsche.hq.simlog.com> <16487.22766.448116.900778@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <4068267B.5030206@videotron.ca> Hi, > Remi> The command line was > Remi> cat email.msg | sb_nbserver.py -d my_hammie.db > >Shouldn't you be invoking sb_bnfilter.py like so: > > cat email.msg | sb_bnfilter.py -d my_hammie.db > > > I was using the good name since I was able to run some part of sb_bnfilter.py. >or even > > sb_bnfilter.py -d my_hammie.db < email.msg > > I tried that also and I got the same error message. > That said, I had some problems in this regard as well. I haven't looked > into it yet. What was your problem and how did you manage to solve it ? >That said, I had some problems in this regard as well. I haven't looked >into it yet. > >It does seem like sb_bnfilter.py shows some promise: > > % time for f in spam? ; do sb_bnfilter.py < $f >/dev/null; done > > real 0m2.377s > user 0m1.000s > sys 0m0.540s > > % time for f in spam? ; do sb_filter.py < $f >/dev/null; done > > real 0m8.594s > user 0m6.280s > sys 0m2.090s > > This is really interesting that is why I want to use it. >The timing for the sb_bnfilter.py was after the server had already been >started. "spam?" expanded to eight files. With the server not already >started I got (added a print to make sure the server was only started once): > > % time for f in spam? ; do sb_bnfilter.py < $f >/dev/null; done > forking server > > real 0m3.654s > user 0m1.030s > sys 0m0.520s > >Skip > > > > Remi -- /"\ \ / X ASCII Ribbon Campaign / \ Against HTML Email From Nancy.Booterbaugh at unisys.com Mon Mar 29 10:03:10 2004 From: Nancy.Booterbaugh at unisys.com (Booterbaugh, Nancy A.) Date: Mon Mar 29 10:03:15 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Filter on "From" Message-ID: <1F604FC6FC3B5A41A3828BDBD50D027C06725827@USBB-EXCH3.na.uis.unisys.com> Hi I think your product is great, but I have one friend who's Email is constantly marked as "Possible Spam". Is there a way I can train your product to not filter Email from particular "From:" individuals? nancy.booterbaugh@unisys.com From jvafeas at marstonpr.com Mon Mar 29 10:13:50 2004 From: jvafeas at marstonpr.com (Vafeas, Jim) Date: Mon Mar 29 10:14:27 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Copying the "training" file Message-ID: <71A5BDD9561A34449FFAADE70C2E7E818A8E01@MARS-NY3> We have SpamBayes installed on a PC that we have been training for several months and it works excellently now. However, we need to wipe the drive and reinstall everything on that PC but we do not want to start from scratch training SpamBayes all over again if it can be avoided. Is there a file or files we can backup up and transfer back when the reinstall is complete? Thanks, Jim Vafeas -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Is there a way I can train your product to not filter Email from particular "From:" individuals? nancy.booterbaugh@unisys.com _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From jonw at gdpspace.com Mon Mar 29 10:52:49 2004 From: jonw at gdpspace.com (Jon Weitzman) Date: Mon Mar 29 10:56:48 2004 Subject: FW: [Spambayes] Help---Still no luck running spambayes on an NT system?? My bad!!!!!!! Message-ID: <000201c415a5$e3ba96e0$36dbeace@deltainfo.com> Folks, I just found out that my Find command in the NT start menu does not look in the Temp directory even though NT has VIEW set to "show all files." MY BAD!!!! There is a spambayes log in c:temp. Traceback (most recent call last): File "addin.py", line 1546, in ? File "win32com\server\register.pyc", line 477, in UseCommandLine File "win32com\server\register.pyc", line 407, in RegisterClasses File "win32com\server\register.pyc", line 261, in RegisterServer File "win32com\server\register.pyc", line 85, in _cat_registrar pywintypes.com_error: (-2147467262, 'No such interface supported', None, None) Does this offer any insight to anyone?? Once again, sorry for the mis-information. Jon Weitzman -----Original Message----- From: Jon Weitzman [mailto:jonw@gdpspace.com] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 9:30 AM To: 'spambayes@python.org' Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Help---Still no luck running spambayes on an NT system?? -----Original Message----- Jon Weitzman wrote: > Trying to install and run Spambayes on an NT system. It seems to > install but I > do not get a spambayes toolbar in outlook. > > I'm installing spambayes 1.0a9(0.9). My system is NT 4.0 and > Outlook 2000 SR-1 Version 9. > From MediaPlayer at MSNBC.COM Mon Mar 29 12:18:11 2004 From: MediaPlayer at MSNBC.COM (MediaPlayer) Date: Mon Mar 29 12:18:16 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] ::MSNBC_Auto_Response:: Thanks for contacting us about the Media Player Message-ID: Thank you for contacting us about the MSNBC Media Player. While we may not be able to respond to you individually, the comments and suggestions you make give us important insight into how to continue to make the Media Player better. Your email will be reviewed by someone on our team and if they have any additonal comments or questions, they will contact you directly. Thanks, The MSNBC Media Team ::MSNBC_Auto_Response:: Media Player :: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040329/f034331a/attachment.html From tim at fourstonesExpressions.com Mon Mar 29 12:42:58 2004 From: tim at fourstonesExpressions.com (Tim Stone) Date: Mon Mar 29 12:43:08 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Filter on "From" In-Reply-To: <1F604FC6FC3B5A41A3828BDBD50D027C06725827@USBB-EXCH3.na.uis.unisys.com> References: <1F604FC6FC3B5A41A3828BDBD50D027C06725827@USBB-EXCH3.na.uis.unisys.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 10:03:10 -0500, Booterbaugh, Nancy A. wrote: > Hi > > I think your product is great, but I have one friend who's Email is > constantly marked as "Possible Spam". Is there a way I can train your > product to not filter Email from particular "From:" individuals? We do not implement "whitelists." Spambayes will learn to recognize your friend's mail as good mail as you continue to train it. It may take a while, but it will eventually discriminate correctly. You can, however, implement whitelisting in other ways. Most email programs support some kind of rules, where you can move mail from particular addresses into special folders, or something like that. -- Tim Stone From kennypitt at hotmail.com Mon Mar 29 16:28:23 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Mon Mar 29 16:29:35 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Images In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677B9B@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: Tony Meyer wrote: >> I worked any time with V 0.6 and change >> the pictures/icons in the folder /img >> I changed to Version 0.9 an I missing the icons! >> I?s possible to work with my own icons?? > > I'm not 100%, but I think that the images have since been changed to > be built into the .dll rather than loaded separately, and so this > trick isn't possible anymore, unless you can edit them in there > somehow. You should be able to edit the images from Outlook's customize toolbar function. Just right-click on any toolbar and select Customize, then right-click on the SpamBayes button that you want to change. The menu options there will allow you to edit the button image, or you can copy an image to the clipboard using a paint program (even MSPaint will do) and then paste the image to the button. -- Kenny Pitt From kennypitt at hotmail.com Mon Mar 29 16:32:39 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Mon Mar 29 16:33:52 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Slow filtering after installing Office XP SP3? In-Reply-To: <00c101c4158c$05583c90$1b375381@MITRE.ORG> Message-ID: Ray Charbonneau wrote: > Has anyone else noticed that after installing Office XP SP3 on a > system running v .9 of the SpamBayes plug-in for Outlook against my > IMAP inbox, spam filtering now takes excessive amount of time? When > a new mail message comes in, I have plenty of time to read it and > erroneously think I need to "delete as spam" before the filter moves > it to my spam folder. > > First thing in the AM, when I might have 60 new messages (of which > maybe half are spam), the mail headers come in, then the bodies, then > slowly, one at a time, the spam is filtered out. This is probably caused by the background filtering option. In previous SpamBayes versions this option was off by default, but it will usually get enabled when you install version 1.0a9 (0.9). The background filtering option delays SpamBayes processing to allow any Outlook rules a chance to run first. If you are not using Outlook rules to move mail to different folders then you should be able to safely disable the option on the Advanced tab in SpamBayes Manager. -- Kenny Pitt From bwavin at stofanet.dk Mon Mar 29 16:39:45 2004 From: bwavin at stofanet.dk (B Wavin) Date: Mon Mar 29 16:39:44 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Images References: Message-ID: <000b01c415d6$5a7db930$2c4a6b3e@barrys> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenny Pitt" To: "'Tony Meyer'" ; "'Steinhardt, Ingolf'" ; Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 11:28 PM Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Images Tony Meyer wrote: >> I worked any time with V 0.6 and change >> the pictures/icons in the folder /img >> I changed to Version 0.9 an I missing the icons! >> I?s possible to work with my own icons?? > > I'm not 100%, but I think that the images have since been changed to > be built into the .dll rather than loaded separately, and so this > trick isn't possible anymore, unless you can edit them in there > somehow. >You should be able to edit the images from Outlook's customize toolbar >function. Just right-click on any toolbar and select Customize, then >right-click on the SpamBayes button that you want to change. The menu >options there will allow you to edit the button image, or you can copy >an image to the clipboard using a paint program (even MSPaint will do) >and then paste the image to the button. I did that, cocked it up and selected Reset from the menu, now I have no icon at all :o( How do I get the default Spambayes one back anyone? Thanks B From kennypitt at hotmail.com Mon Mar 29 16:40:26 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Mon Mar 29 16:41:38 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Logging In In-Reply-To: <058801c4158d$7cfa0a70$6401a8c0@JASON> Message-ID: Jason Silver - CrookedBush.com wrote: > In the advanced settings of SpamBayes, I tried to set up my PC to > be accessible from any PC in the household by allowing the IP > range if 192.168.1.*. > > I must have misunderstood the directions, for I thought it said I > could allow only the localhost to connect by putting localhost. I > assumed the reverse was true: that to allow all computers on the > network to connect I should remove localhost from the list. > > So I did. > > And now I am unable to log in to the configuration page or to > review messages. I am prompted for the password, and the get the > standard 'The page can not be displayed' error from IE. > > Any suggestions for resetting the IP range without logging in? First, exit the SpamBayes server. Then go to the directory "\Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\SpamBayes\Proxy" and edit the bayescustomize.ini file. Delete any lines that begin with allow_remote_connections and save the file. Now restart the SpamBayes server and all the remote connection options should be reset to their default values. -- Kenny Pitt From kennypitt at hotmail.com Mon Mar 29 16:54:51 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Mon Mar 29 16:56:06 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] no recover button In-Reply-To: <9A11A8442E35774FA83CDE6272EA67732D7008@timcal01.timcal.local> Message-ID: Kende Laszlo wrote: > 1. Yes, I am in the right folder > 2. No, Outlook is not just hiding it in the toolbar. > 3. Actually, there is one more curious thing: in the Outlook view I > use the Outlook Shortcuts bar. Outlook gives me the count of items in > each folder: Inbox, Sent Items, Deleted Items, Junk E-mail (SpamBayes > folder), but not of those in the Junk Suspects folder (even if the > items are correctly there)! The fact that no counts show up in your Outlook bar really makes it sound like you have a shortcut to a different Junk Suspects folder than the one SpamBayes is using, but if that were the case then I wouldn't think you would see any unread items there. It would probably be helpful if you could submit your logfiles for this. The SpamBayes / Help / Troubleshooting Guide contains instructions for finding them. -- Kenny Pitt From kennypitt at hotmail.com Mon Mar 29 16:56:19 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Mon Mar 29 16:57:33 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Images In-Reply-To: <000b01c415d6$5a7db930$2c4a6b3e@barrys> Message-ID: B Wavin wrote: >> You should be able to edit the images from Outlook's customize >> toolbar function. Just right-click on any toolbar and select >> Customize, then right-click on the SpamBayes button that you want to >> change. The menu options there will allow you to edit the button >> image, or you can copy an image to the clipboard using a paint >> program (even MSPaint will do) and then paste the image to the >> button. > > I did that, cocked it up and selected Reset from the menu, now I have > no icon at all :o( How do I get the default Spambayes one back anyone? Just delete the SpamBayes toolbar and then restart Outlook. SpamBayes will recreate the default toolbar. -- Kenny Pitt From kennypitt at hotmail.com Mon Mar 29 17:01:09 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Mon Mar 29 17:02:32 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Copying the "training" file In-Reply-To: <71A5BDD9561A34449FFAADE70C2E7E818A8E01@MARS-NY3> Message-ID: Just make a backup copy of the "\Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\SpamBayes" directory, which contains all configuration and training data for the SpamBayes Outlook addin. After reformatting your drive, reinstall SpamBayes and then restore the contents of that directory. -- Kenny Pitt _____ From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Vafeas, Jim Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 10:14 AM To: 'spambayes@python.org' Subject: [Spambayes] Copying the "training" file We have SpamBayes installed on a PC that we have been training for several months and it works excellently now. 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Coe) Date: Mon Mar 29 21:39:10 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Windows XP SP2 breaks spambayes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c41525$6f5940b0$6501a8c0@CambridgeMA.GOV> A few weeks ago I was having this same problem (or one pretty much like it) with Windows XP SP1 and Outlook 2000. Somebody (I think it was you, Tony) suggested I try the Outlook "Detect and Repair" command, and that fixed it. It's at least worth a try. Bob MIS Department, City of Cambridge 831 Massachusetts Ave, Cambridge MA 02139 ? 617-349-4217 ? fax 617-349-6165 > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces@python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of Allen Bolderoff > Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 11:58 PM > To: 'Tony Meyer'; spambayes@python.org > Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Windows XP SP2 breaks spambayes > > > > > > > I have just installed XP SP2 beta, and spambayes breaks > > > with outlook 2003. anyone had experience with this? > > > > For all I know this is an actual problem, but just to check first: > > > > 1. What do you mean "breaks"? Just doesn't work anymore? Gives an error > > message? What does the log have? > > > > 2. Have you checked to see SpamBayes isn't just disabled? This happens > > with all sorts of Microsoft upgrades. > > > Ok, > Start outlook with spambayes enabled: > > Outlook throws to the standard MS - Do you want to send an error report, and > when you answer yes or no, after it has done what it needs to do to report > or not, you get the"Outlook experienced an error when trying to open the > spambayes addin (or words to that effect) do you want to disable this > plugin" dialog. > > I have a copy of the error report that MS wants to send if you need it just > tell me where to send it - quite large. From constant at gci.net Mon Mar 29 22:06:15 2004 From: constant at gci.net (Christopher) Date: Mon Mar 29 22:09:45 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Question/Recommendation Message-ID: Hi there, I don't know if the following function is available. I would like to be able to mark certain emails as "always good" (i.e. non-spam)... Sometimes I accidentally mark something as spam and miss messages. I am not sure how. Is this something that can be added? Thanks, Christopher Constant Anchorage AK From Steve at stellabooks.com Tue Mar 30 01:53:22 2004 From: Steve at stellabooks.com (Steve Goddard) Date: Tue Mar 30 01:53:26 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Plugin and Version for MS Exhange Message-ID: <8ADED27CD09B4047A05368FD5BB1439B0B0616@server1> Hi, Is the plugin for outlook compatible with using an exchange server on a MAPI interface - not POP3 or IMAP? Sencondly, do you have any plans for a version that integrates into exchange or can work on a Windows 2000 server to filter incoming mail before it reaches an Exchange server? Kind regards, Steve -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Outlook gives me the count of items in > each folder: Inbox, Sent Items, Deleted Items, Junk E-mail (SpamBayes > folder), but not of those in the Junk Suspects folder (even if the > items are correctly there)! The fact that no counts show up in your Outlook bar really makes it sound like you have a shortcut to a different Junk Suspects folder than the one SpamBayes is using, but if that were the case then I wouldn't think you would see any unread items there. It would probably be helpful if you could submit your logfiles for this. The SpamBayes / Help / Troubleshooting Guide contains instructions for finding them. -- Kenny Pitt -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: spambayes1.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 9082 bytes Desc: spambayes1.log Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040330/beef6147/spambayes1-0001.obj -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I know much less about how the SB proxy works with POP3 mail clients, so I'm unsure if the above kludge is relevant there as well. Amir -----Original Message----- From: Christopher [mailto:constant@gci.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 05:06 To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Question/Recommendation Hi there, I don't know if the following function is available. I would like to be able to mark certain emails as "always good" (i.e. non-spam)... Sometimes I accidentally mark something as spam and miss messages. I am not sure how. Is this something that can be added? Thanks, Christopher Constant Anchorage AK _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From DSAVCHN4S002001 at grunenthal.ch Tue Mar 30 10:39:46 2004 From: DSAVCHN4S002001 at grunenthal.ch (DSAVCHN4S002001@grunenthal.ch) Date: Tue Mar 30 09:40:48 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] ALARM - Virus W32/Netsky (ED) gefunden; an attachment/message has been quarantined Message-ID: Action Taken: An attempt to disinfect the attachment was unsuccessful, so the message has been placed in the designated quarantine folder. Please exercise extreme caution when handling the quarantined attachment To: bhefti@grunenthal.ch From: spambayes@python.org Sent: 966580902,29628013 Subject: Re: Old times Attachment Details:- Attachment Name: letter.zip File: letter.zip Infected? Yes Repaired? 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040330/b95b399b/attachment.html From rmalayter at bai.org Tue Mar 30 11:56:51 2004 From: rmalayter at bai.org (Ryan Malayter) Date: Tue Mar 30 11:56:55 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Plugin and Version for MS Exhange Message-ID: <792DE28E91F6EA42B4663AE761C41C2A01E1AAD1@cliff.bai.org> [Steve Goddard] >Is the plugin for outlook compatible with using an exchange >server on a MAPI interface - not POP3 or IMAP? Yes. It plugs into Outlook, and doesn't care what mailbox server you use. You could even connect your Outlook to a Groupwise or Notes server, and the SpamBayes plug-in would work the same. >Sencondly, do you have any plans for a version that >integrates into exchange or can work on a Windows 2000 server >to filter incoming mail before it reaches an Exchange server? There is a derivative project called "Tugast" that is trying to make an SMTP-proxy for the SpamBayes classification engine. However, nothing is ready yet AFAIK, and when it is ready, it will be highly focused on working with Linux/BSD/UNIX mail servers rather than Exchange servers. If you want open-source, server-level Bayesian filtering that will work on an Exchange server, check out http://assp.sourceforge.net. It works as a Perl-based SMTP proxy, so it can sit in front of *any* internet mail server,a nd run on almost any OS. However, it's classification engine and training methods slightly different from hose in SpamBayes. Regards, Ryan From GlenGleeson at umsl.edu Tue Mar 30 12:22:47 2004 From: GlenGleeson at umsl.edu (Gleeson, Glen S.) Date: Tue Mar 30 12:23:01 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Multiple Exchange Mailboxes Message-ID: <427A9F1A7331F1498D744A5C73484BA22F0C@STL-MAIL2.umsl.edu> Has anyone had issues with configuring Spam Bayes when a user maps multiple mailboxes? What we are seeing is, once installed, Spam Bayes will allow filtering on the additional mapped mailboxes but not the main users mailbox. We have also seen installations where no mailboxes/inboxes were available for selection when running the configuration wizard. Glen Gleeson From tim at fourstonesExpressions.com Tue Mar 30 15:13:30 2004 From: tim at fourstonesExpressions.com (Tim Stone) Date: Tue Mar 30 15:13:46 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RADIO In-Reply-To: <200403301650.i2UGoS4C019428@ms-smtp-03-eri0.ohiordc.rr.com> References: <200403301650.i2UGoS4C019428@ms-smtp-03-eri0.ohiordc.rr.com> Message-ID: Are you considering a call-in for your guest, or do you need your guest in person? Would the entire show be dedicated to our Spambayes work, or is the show about Spam, and one of us would be a subject matter expert? One of us may very well be able to help, but we're going to need a bit more information... On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 10:50:29 -0600, Jim Montgomery wrote: > I have a radio show that airs every Saturday Afternoon from 12:30 - 2:00 > CST > on Clear Channel radio station WREC600 AM. We reach five (5) states and > would like to have someone from SpamBays come on the radio show and talk > about your product. -- Tim Stone From scales at zko.dec.com Tue Mar 30 15:19:24 2004 From: scales at zko.dec.com (Webb Scales) Date: Tue Mar 30 15:20:00 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Question/Recommendation References: Message-ID: <4069D64B.A07B6411@zko.dec.com> Christopher wrote: > I don't know if the following function is available. I would like to be > able to mark certain emails as "always good" (i.e. non-spam)... How do you know that these emails are "good"? That is, what about them are you keying off of? (If it is indeed the sender's email address, then, yes, what Amir says about "white lists" applies.) Whatever it is that you are keying off of, the SB filtering can probably be configured to key off of it as well. Then you just need to train it appropriately. > Sometimes I accidentally mark something as spam and miss messages. I am not > sure how. This is a problem. The filter is only as good as the training that you give it. If you sometimes tell it that "good" mail is "spam", then you shouldn't be surprised if sometimes it tells you the same thing back. :-) And, if you cannot configure/train the software properly, in all odds no extra knob is going to save you. ;-) I'm sure that someone else here can comment better than I on how to recover from mis-training the filter. But, if you let SB do it's job (i.e., give it proper configuration and training), you should find that you don't need special rules (such as "white lists"). Webb -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Webb Scales Hewlett-Packard Company scales (at) zko.dec.com 110 Spit Brook Rd, ZKO2-3/N30 Voice: 603.884.2196, FAX: 603.884.0120 Nashua, NH 03062-2711 MIPS - Meaningless Indication of Processor Speed ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040330/e1b4b329/attachment.html From dkinser at ucsd.edu Tue Mar 30 17:58:36 2004 From: dkinser at ucsd.edu (Daren Kinser) Date: Tue Mar 30 17:58:49 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] No Filterable mail items are selected Message-ID: <56967D6D73D84A4BBB1AC05DF7B69F552E4716@amasmail.audit.ucsd.edu> Has anyone seen this before? System: WindXP, Outlook 2002. I received about 4 spam messages, all within about 30 minutes that appear to be from different sources. When I select any of these messages and then click on "Delete As Spam" I get the following message. No filterable mail items are selected. I can then click OK to clear the message and the spam messages are still there. All other messages it works fine with. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. dkinser From nsudds at arkitekture.com Tue Mar 30 18:19:22 2004 From: nsudds at arkitekture.com (Nathan Sudds) Date: Tue Mar 30 18:19:39 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] this might seem fickle... Message-ID: But I can't seem to get the icons back for my spambayes toolbar... I installed a toolbar for putting paypal payment buttons into my emails... it's another outlook addon.. ever since then the icons for Spambayes show up as the paypal icons... it's a minor thing but it's pretty annoying for a visual person like myself... any advice? I'm using the Windows version of the Outlook Addon of spambayes and I am running windows XP Pro with Outlook 2000. SpamBayes version .81 to start with but now I'm running the new .9 version.. and I'm glad it's much faster on my machine than .81 was... but I wouldn't mind having those icons back... Thanks, Nathan Sudds | CreativeDirector nsudds@arkitekture.com ::: ARKITEKTURE:::::::::::::: focusing our sites on building yours -------------------------------------------------------------------- [launch] // www.arkitekture.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040330/8fcb1d89/attachment.html From scales at zko.dec.com Tue Mar 30 18:24:50 2004 From: scales at zko.dec.com (Webb Scales) Date: Tue Mar 30 18:24:56 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] I am the author of my own undoing. References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2B4A@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> <406208E2.DB848E09@zko.dec.com> <200403251324.i2PDOXC10041@localhost.localdomain> <406334ED.BCA70B3E@zko.dec.com> Message-ID: <406A01C2.76514B9F@zko.dec.com> Webb Scales wrote: > Bill, you've given me an even s[l]icker idea that I like better. 8-) > > I can set up a procmail recipe to launch the training session using > sb_imapfilter under a procmail-instantiated lock. This way, I can continue > to simply put the training candidates into a specific pair of folders, and > when the training happens, it will be properly synchronized (and, I never > have to explicitly launch the trainer!). (And, I can leave learning python > for another day.... ;-) > > Now, the only problem is...the details. ...and that's where I found the devil. One way or another, the IMAP trainer needs access to my password, and I just couldn't convince myself to type it into a file (not the SB config file, not the procmail script, not a cron job, no!). So, I put together a tiny little script which wraps the invocation of sb_imapfilter.py with a lockfile(1). It's pretty inelegant (in several ways), but it should work. *sigh* ;-) Webb -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Webb Scales Hewlett-Packard Company scales (at) zko.dec.com 110 Spit Brook Rd, ZKO2-3/N30 Voice: 603.884.2196, FAX: 603.884.0120 Nashua, NH 03062-2711 MIPS - Meaningless Indication of Processor Speed ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From nesser at notitarde.com Tue Mar 30 19:45:40 2004 From: nesser at notitarde.com (Nestor Serrano) Date: Tue Mar 30 19:50:50 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Error on spambayes2.log Message-ID: A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: spambayes2.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 38 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040330/a3dae38d/spambayes2.obj From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 30 20:01:52 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 30 20:02:13 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Error on spambayes2.log In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305BC7513@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677BA4@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> The log only contains this: """ Unregistered: SpamBayes.OutlookAddin """ This is not an error. This says that you have unregistered (i.e. uninstalled) the plug-in. What problem are you having? =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Mar 30 22:48:05 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Mar 30 22:48:22 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Error on spambayes2.log In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305BC7565@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677BAA@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I have Outlook 97 and spambayes was installed successfully, > but i can't saw the folders and the software didin't running. The Outlook plug-in does not work with Outlook 97 - Outlook 2000 or above is required. With Outlook 2000, Microsoft made big changes in the way Outlook works, and creating a plug-in that worked with Outlook 97 would be an entirely separate project, and is unlikely to happen. However, you can use the POP3 proxy or IMAP filter with Outlook 97 (assuming you get mail via POP3/IMAP, rather than via Exchange). For POP3, just run the installer, selecting sb_server, rather than the plug-in. For IMAP, you'll need the source, and should follow the instructions in the readme. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From skip at pobox.com Tue Mar 30 23:18:39 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Tue Mar 30 23:18:52 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Cannot connect to socket with sb_bnserver.py In-Reply-To: <4068267B.5030206@videotron.ca> References: <1080424390.4065.24.camel@porsche.hq.simlog.com> <16487.22766.448116.900778@montanaro.dyndns.org> <4068267B.5030206@videotron.ca> Message-ID: <16490.18079.594164.489427@montanaro.dyndns.org> >> That said, I had some problems in this regard as well. I haven't >> looked into it yet. Remi> What was your problem and how did you manage to solve it ? Been busy with a new job. Still haven't looked at it. Skip From didiermorandi at nerim.net Wed Mar 31 02:49:55 2004 From: didiermorandi at nerim.net (Didier Morandi) Date: Wed Mar 31 02:50:00 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] French ? Message-ID: <406A7823.5040307@nerim.net> Good morning Madam, I'm Doctor Didier Morandi from Nigeria :-) Will this message go to your spam folder? (I hope). Seriously, I'm more than interested to work on the French port of SpamBayes. I did not find in the FAQ whether there is currently such work or not. Please let me know if this may be of interest. For us French speaking people around the world, it is easy to tell our filters to consider English as a spam language (which is obviously stupid) but we have no way to filter French spam via keywords statistical analysis and I guess this French spam practice may pop up one day in our countries. So... Thanks, D. Toulouse -- Discover the FutureVAX: www.futurevax.com Discover VAXUS: www.vaxus.org didier morandi ~ sarl au capital de 8 000 euros ~ Revendeur agr?? HP Expertise en environnement DIGITAL ~ Formation ~ Programmation ~ Migration Offshore ~ 5 av. A. Durand 31700 Blagnac France. T?l: 33(0)5 6131 6287 SIRET 448 694 851 00016 RCS Toulouse http://www.didiermorandi.com From daniele.scalzi at scalzi.net Wed Mar 31 03:16:22 2004 From: daniele.scalzi at scalzi.net (Daniele Scalzi) Date: Wed Mar 31 03:16:20 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] BUG REPORT Message-ID: <4058638400442DEE@ms003msg.mail.fw> (added by postmaster@fastwebnet.it) Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: spambayes1.zip Type: application/x-zip-compressed Size: 1537 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040331/a78c6fca/spambayes1.bin From Didier.Morandi at freesurf.fr Wed Mar 31 03:29:45 2004 From: Didier.Morandi at freesurf.fr (Didier Morandi) Date: Wed Mar 31 03:29:50 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Efficiency on misspelled wodrs ? Message-ID: <20040331082945.1BB8862DA9@mallaury.noc.nerim.net> Good morning all, A recent naalysis demnostrated that a sentnece may be easily read depsite a certain percentgae of misspeleld wodrs, because the intellignece can get the snese of wrods and sentencse even if thye are (not too much) misseplled. What about the efficiency of SpamBayes if spammers start using that technique to send their messages? D. (interested in porting SpamBayes to French) -- didier morandi ~ sarl au capital de 8 000 euros ~ Revendeur agr?? HP HP ~ COMPAQ ~ DIGITAL ~ APPLE ~ Formation ~ Programmation ~ Migrations 19 chemin de la Butte, 31400 Toulouse, France. T?l: 33(0)6 7983 6418 SIRET 448 694 851 00016 RCS Toulouse http://www.didiermorandi.com From gbacareza at yahoo.com Wed Mar 31 04:16:47 2004 From: gbacareza at yahoo.com (Gio Bacareza) Date: Wed Mar 31 04:16:56 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes crashing my Outlook Message-ID: <20040331091647.73919.qmail@web11706.mail.yahoo.com> I recently started using a new profile in XP. I copied the dat and ini files from my old profile to the new one to retain some of my old settings. I uninstalled the old version of Spambayes and installed the 0.9 release. Because I'm using a new profile Spambayes had to relearn the training. (The files in the Documents and Settings/ProfileName/Application Data/Spambayes in the new profile is smaller than the old profile and I had to retrain by choosing Delete As Spam emails in the box.) I thought I could accelerate the training by copying the databases from the old profile to the new one. Once I did that, everytime I tried to start Outlook it wouldnt unless in Safe Mode. I tried to restore the original databases (before I copied the old profile's database) but the problem is still the same. I uninstalled Spambayes and also the database directory then rebooted. But still I cannot start outlook. What's happening here? gio --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040331/92cd298b/attachment.html From navmse at ctvirginia.com Wed Mar 31 06:32:03 2004 From: navmse at ctvirginia.com (NAVMSE) Date: Wed Mar 31 06:32:14 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Norton AntiVirus detected a virus in a message you sent. The infected attachment was deleted. Message-ID: Recipient of the infected attachment: CTSERV, First Storage Group\Mailbox Store (CTSERV), Dean Conklin/Inbox Subject of the message: information One or more attachments were deleted Attachment note.zip was Deleted for the following reasons: Virus W32.Netsky.B@mm was found. Virus W32.Netsky.B@mm was found in note.rtf.pif. From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Wed Mar 31 08:08:22 2004 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Wed Mar 31 08:08:27 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Copying the "training" file Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F502120C2@SPIKE.city> Don't overlook the fact that if the computer has multiple users, you'll have to do that for each user account. (Unless you're using roaming profiles, in which case each user's data is likely already saved on one of your servers). Bob -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of Kenny Pitt Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 5:01 PM To: 'Vafeas, Jim'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Copying the "training" file Just make a backup copy of the "\Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\SpamBayes" directory, which contains all configuration and training data for the SpamBayes Outlook addin. After reformatting your drive, reinstall SpamBayes and then restore the contents of that directory. -- Kenny Pitt _____ From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Vafeas, Jim Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 10:14 AM To: 'spambayes@python.org' Subject: [Spambayes] Copying the "training" file We have SpamBayes installed on a PC that we have been training for several months and it works excellently now. However, we need to wipe the drive and reinstall everything on that PC but we do not want to start from scratch training SpamBayes all over again if it can be avoided. Is there a file or files we can backup up and transfer back when the reinstall is complete? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040331/fff599fc/attachment-0001.html From papaDoc at videotron.ca Wed Mar 31 08:42:52 2004 From: papaDoc at videotron.ca (papaDoc) Date: Wed Mar 31 08:43:25 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] French ? In-Reply-To: <406A7823.5040307@nerim.net> References: <406A7823.5040307@nerim.net> Message-ID: <406ACADC.3040405@videotron.ca> Bonjour Didier, > I'm Doctor Didier Morandi from Nigeria :-) Incroyable premier vrai courrier du Nigeria cela fait du bien...... ;-) > Will this message go to your spam folder? (I hope). No. > > Seriously, I'm more than interested to work on the French port of > SpamBayes. I did not find in the FAQ whether there is currently such > work or not. Est-ce que pour la version francaise c'est l'interface que vous voulez traduire ou faire en sorte que Spambayes fonctionne avec les courriels dont le texte est francais ? > Please let me know if this may be of interest. Ce qui est le plus important c'est de savoir si cela vous interesse assez pour faire la traduction. Il y a deja eu des discussion pour faire la traduction dans d'autres langues mais je n'ai pas suivi le developpement. > For us French speaking people around the world, it is easy to tell our > filters to consider English as a spam language (which is obviously > stupid) but we have no way to filter French spam via keywords > statistical analysis and I guess this French spam practice may pop up > one day in our countries. So... Spambayes reussit a faire la difference entre le Spam/Ham dans la langue anglaise et francaise. Il faut seulement l'entrainer avec tous les cas possibles. Remi /"\ \ / X ASCII Ribbon Campaign / \ Against HTML Email From tim at fourstonesExpressions.com Wed Mar 31 08:46:09 2004 From: tim at fourstonesExpressions.com (Tim Stone) Date: Wed Mar 31 08:46:23 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] French ? In-Reply-To: <406A7823.5040307@nerim.net> References: <406A7823.5040307@nerim.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 09:49:55 +0200, Didier Morandi wrote: > Good morning Madam, > > I'm Doctor Didier Morandi from Nigeria :-) > > Will this message go to your spam folder? (I hope). Funny! FYI, my spambayes rated this mail with a .01% probability of being spam. Not bad, huh? > > Seriously, I'm more than interested to work on the French port of > SpamBayes. I did not find in the FAQ whether there is currently such > work or not. There currently is not work on a French port, but, read on.... > > Please let me know if this may be of interest. For us French speaking > people around the world, it is easy to tell our filters to consider > English as a spam language (which is obviously stupid) but we have no > way to filter French spam via keywords statistical analysis and I guess > this French spam practice may pop up one day in our countries. So... Spambayes really doesn't care what language the spam is in. As long as the program can tease apart words by grouping characters using spaces and punctuation marks as separators, the mail could be written in any language. The mail is separated into words, and those words are compared statistically to words that it has been trained (by you) to recognize as good mail or spam. The meaning of the words, or even whether or not they are valid words in any language's dictionary, is never even considered by the program trained. I believe there are Spambayes users in all major language groups. We have had a few bugs from the Asiatics about how their characters are handled, and those problems have been corrected (I think). A French port (mmmm... sounds good!) of Spambayes would be primarily to change the user interfaces to French. That might be very useful, but thus far, nobody has stepped forward to do such a thing, and all of the developers speak English as their primary language (I think)... -- Tim Stone From tim at fourstonesExpressions.com Wed Mar 31 08:51:39 2004 From: tim at fourstonesExpressions.com (Tim Stone) Date: Wed Mar 31 08:51:55 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Efficiency on misspelled wodrs ? In-Reply-To: <20040331082945.1BB8862DA9@mallaury.noc.nerim.net> References: <20040331082945.1BB8862DA9@mallaury.noc.nerim.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 10:29:45 +0200, Didier Morandi wrote: > Good morning all, > > A recent naalysis demnostrated that a sentnece may be easily read > depsite a > certain percentgae of misspeleld wodrs, because the intellignece can get > the > snese of wrods and sentencse even if thye are (not too much) misseplled. > > What about the efficiency of SpamBayes if spammers start using that > technique to > send their messages? We have given a bit of consideration to changing our tokenizer to notice this technique, but thus far, we have not seen that our filter tends to misclassify spam mail that employs this technique. Perhaps that is because spammers tend to use masking techniques like this only on obviously 'spammy' words, we don't know. But thus far, it hasn't been a problem, and our mantra is "if it isn't broken, don't fix it." > (interested in porting SpamBayes to French) (interested in D.'s interest in porting SpamBayes to French) -- Tim Stone From tim at fourstonesExpressions.com Wed Mar 31 08:53:26 2004 From: tim at fourstonesExpressions.com (Tim Stone) Date: Wed Mar 31 08:53:40 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] French ? In-Reply-To: <406ACADC.3040405@videotron.ca> References: <406A7823.5040307@nerim.net> <406ACADC.3040405@videotron.ca> Message-ID: Bonjour Remi, I notice your signature is still in English *wink* On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 08:42:52 -0500, papaDoc wrote: > Bonjour Didier, > >> I'm Doctor Didier Morandi from Nigeria :-) > > Incroyable premier vrai courrier du Nigeria cela fait du bien...... > ;-) <> > Remi > > > /"\ > \ / > X ASCII Ribbon Campaign > / \ Against HTML Email > > > _______________________________________________ > Spambayes@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > -- Tim Stone From mlovasco at worryfreeit.com Wed Mar 31 09:57:17 2004 From: mlovasco at worryfreeit.com (Michael Lovasco) Date: Wed Mar 31 10:01:54 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes for Lotus Notes Message-ID: <8CEC65E7F6E13C4E9E55BC25855713361133D0@bsci-exch2.worryfreeit.net> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 20918 bytes Desc: faded_logo.jpg Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040331/315cc201/attachment-0001.jpe From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Wed Mar 31 10:21:56 2004 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Wed Mar 31 10:22:00 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] French ? Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5022CAD8@SPIKE.city> Mine rated it 97%! I don't get much ham with the word "Nigeria" in it. Bob > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces@python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of Tim Stone > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 8:46 AM > To: Didier Morandi; spambayes@python.org > Subject: Re: [Spambayes] French ? > > > On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 09:49:55 +0200, Didier Morandi > wrote: > > > Good morning Madam, > > > > I'm Doctor Didier Morandi from Nigeria :-) > > > > Will this message go to your spam folder? (I hope). > > Funny! FYI, my spambayes rated this mail with a .01% > probability of being spam. Not bad, huh? > > > ... From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Wed Mar 31 10:34:26 2004 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Wed Mar 31 10:34:33 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Efficiency on misspelled wodrs ? Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5022C294@SPIKE.city> English-language spammers have been doing that for quite a while now. For me, at least, Spambayes has been very effective at seeing beyond the misspellings and recognizing such messages as spam. (It saw your original message as spam too, but that's an aberration. I very rarely get false positives.) Bob > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces@python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of Didier Morandi > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 3:30 AM > To: spambayes@python.org > Subject: [Spambayes] Efficiency on misspelled wodrs ? > > > Good morning all, > > A recent naalysis demnostrated that a sentnece may be easily read depsite > a certain percentgae of misspeleld wodrs, because the intellignece can get > the snese of wrods and sentencse even if thye are (not too much) misseplled. > > What about the efficiency of SpamBayes if spammers start using that technique > to send their messages? > > D. > (interested in porting SpamBayes to French) From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Wed Mar 31 10:53:15 2004 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Wed Mar 31 10:53:20 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] this might seem fickle... Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5022C295@SPIKE.city> Your experience is far from the first evidence that the Spambayes toolbar is flaky. For example: I've colored my "delete" and "recover" buttons red and green, respectively. This morning, for no obvious reason, the buttons reverted to yellow, and I had to re-color them. The developers often make the point that Outlook's plugin interfaces are sloppily written and poorly documented. I suppose we're lucky that the Spambayes plugin works at all. Bob -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of Nathan Sudds Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 6:19 PM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] this might seem fickle... Importance: High But I can't seem to get the icons back for my spambayes toolbar... I installed a toolbar for putting paypal payment buttons into my emails... it's another outlook addon.. ever since then the icons for Spambayes show up as the paypal icons... it's a minor thing but it's pretty annoying for a visual person like myself... any advice? I'm using the Windows version of the Outlook Addon of spambayes and I am running windows XP Pro with Outlook 2000. SpamBayes version .81 to start with but now I'm running the new .9 version.. and I'm glad it's much faster on my machine than .81 was... but I wouldn't mind having those icons back... Thanks, Nathan Sudds | CreativeDirector nsudds@arkitekture.com ::: ARKITEKTURE:::::::::::::: focusing our sites on building yours _____ [launch] // www.arkitekture.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <20040331145507.33AD662D53@mallaury.noc.nerim.net> References: <20040331145507.33AD662D53@mallaury.noc.nerim.net> Message-ID: <406AEBD8.80705@videotron.ca> Salut Didier, Ce qu'il faut savoir aussi c'est: Quel application est-ce que tu veux traduire ? Le Plugin d'Outlook ou le sb_server.py avec son interface web ? Remi -- /"\ \ / X ASCII Ribbon Campaign / \ Against HTML Email From phil at Campbell.com Wed Mar 31 13:32:25 2004 From: phil at Campbell.com (Phil Lindner) Date: Wed Mar 31 13:32:34 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Filtering problems when starting Outlook 2000 Message-ID: <0347095E5A1C364AA4524648C7DD6DE98EAA55@CC-EXCHANGE-VS.campbell.com> I was using the 0.8 version of SpamBayes without having any problems at all. I just upgraded to the new 1.0a9 binary distribution this week. Ever since doing so I have had a few recurring problems. I have gone through the troubleshooting section but did not find anything to help. When I first bring up Outlook in the morning, nothing gets filtered at all. It sounds like this might be related to bug number 904526. There are messages in the log file saying "Skipping folder for this session - temporarily unavailable". While this is going on, it appears that Outlook is frozen but that is not the case. It takes several minutes before the application becomes responsive and I can navigate in Outlook. Once I can move around, I must click on the SpamBayes pulldown menu button and select "Filter messages". I also need to constantly check the radio button for the filter action on this screen. It keeps changing from Perform all filter actions to Score messages, but don't perform filter action. Once I have done the filtering, I then find I need to run the training routine for SpamBayes to automatically start filtering new incoming messages. At this point SpamBayes will filter properly for the rest of the current Outlook session. If I exit Outlook and get back in later, the process starts all over again. Another problem I have encountered is the database for recognizing the difference between good messages and spam keeps getting reset. I have checked that the Rebuild entire database option is not checked, but it seems to happen anyway. The 0.8 version I was using was very stable. It initialize quickly, filtered all the messages, including when first logging into Outlook and never lost or reset the training database information unless I specifically asked for it to do so. From my point of view, the new version seems to be a major step backwards. Attached is a copy of the current log file. Phil Lindner <> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: spambayes1.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 26317 bytes Desc: spambayes1.log Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040331/1428b149/spambayes1-0001.obj From gramos at yahoo.com Wed Mar 31 15:44:56 2004 From: gramos at yahoo.com (brown wrap) Date: Wed Mar 31 15:45:02 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] i can't even get off the ground with spambayes Message-ID: <20040331204456.47676.qmail@web11504.mail.yahoo.com> i am not familiar with python and the programs that it can run, but i was asked to install spambayes. both python and spambayes are installed, but in trying to run the first test, it blows up: nuthatch 147# find /usr/depot/irix6x/python -name "*sb_imapfilter.py*" -print /usr/depot/irix6x/python/2.3.3/bin/sb_imapfilter.py nuthatch 148# /usr/depot/irix6x/python/2.3.3/bin/sb_imapfilter.py -b Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/depot/irix6x/python/2.3.3/bin/sb_imapfilter.py", line 98, in ? import socket File "/usr/depot/irix6x/python/2.3.3/lib/python2.3/socket.py", line 44, in ? import _socket ImportError: No module named _socket nuthatch 149# ===== >From the Back of the PacK: 5' 9" of Funk; if you have to ask, you wouldn't understand the answer. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html From gramos at yahoo.com Wed Mar 31 15:58:39 2004 From: gramos at yahoo.com (brown wrap) Date: Wed Mar 31 15:58:46 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] can't even get started with spambayes Message-ID: <20040331205839.28857.qmail@web11502.mail.yahoo.com> let me start off by saying i am not familiar with python or spambayes, but was asked to install them both. after the install, i tried to fire it up: nuthatch 148# /usr/depot/irix6x/python/2.3.3/bin/sb_imapfilter.py -b Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/depot/irix6x/python/2.3.3/bin/sb_imapfilter.py", line 98, in ? import socket File "/usr/depot/irix6x/python/2.3.3/lib/python2.3/socket.py", line 44, in ? import _socket ImportError: No module named _socket nuthatch 149# ===== >From the Back of the PacK: 5' 9" of Funk; if you have to ask, you wouldn't understand the answer. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html From cmarko at earthlink.net Wed Mar 31 23:17:19 2004 From: cmarko at earthlink.net (Charles M. Marko) Date: Wed Mar 31 23:17:13 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] InBoxer/SpamAtBay beta available. Message-ID: Can you please send me the activation code for inboxer as mentioned at: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/2004-March/011776.html? Thanks! CM -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040331/db588945/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Mar 31 23:42:11 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Mar 31 23:42:35 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] No Filterable mail items are selected In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305BC74BB@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13026F2B6B@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Has anyone seen this before? [...] > I received about 4 spam messages, all within about 30 > minutes that appear to be from different sources. When > I select any of these messages and then click > on "Delete As Spam" I get the following message. > > No filterable mail items are selected. > > I can then click OK to clear the message and the spam > messages are still there. All other messages it works fine > with. SpamBayes tries to figure out which messages you have received, and which you haven't (sent items, drafts, etc). (You can filter ones you have received, but not the others). Unfortunately there's not a simple way to do this, so it relies on a few rules that seem to be right almost all the time. There have been a few cases like this where SpamBayes is wrong, and a message has actually been received. There's an open tracker about this: [ 854547 ] message won't filter You can upload a copy of those messages to that tracker, if you like, and we can look at the properties of the message, but it seems unlikely that this will be fixed in the near future. Obviously, you can just move those messages manually, and this should be very rare (if not, then there's much more incentive for it to be quickly fixed). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Mar 31 23:45:30 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Mar 31 23:45:44 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes for Lotus Notes In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305BC7739@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677BBA@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I was just curious, do you make a SpamBayes version > for Lotus Notes e-mail (versions 5.0 - 6.5.1)? I didn't > see anything on the website regarding it, but I wasn't > completely sure. Thanks! There is (command line based) filter for Notes, but it's very alpha, and not very widely used. It should work, however, so you can certainly try it out (and the actual performance, assuming it does work, will be identical to any other SpamBayes application). If you download the source (1.0a9) the readme explains most of what you need to do, and if you run the sb_notesfilter.py script, it will give you more information (I don't use it myself, so can't really help more). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Mar 31 23:47:46 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Mar 31 23:49:22 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes for MS Entourage on Mac OSX? In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305A4A053@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677BBB@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Since Microsoft Entourage (part of MS Office for > Mac OSX) is similar to Outlook, is there a plugin > or version compatible with it for Mac OSX? No, sorry. Although they're similar on the surface, they might not be all that similar underneath. The real issue, though, is that AFAIK none of the developers have Entourage, so there's not really any ability to build a plug-in. Of course, sb_server will happily work with Entourage where mail is coming via POP3, and ditto for IMAP and sb_imapfilter. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Mar 31 23:50:57 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Mar 31 23:51:20 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Delete as Spam / Recovery from Spam button does not work In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1305BC71FA@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677BBC@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > However, just last week the Delete as Spam and Recover > from Spam buttons no longer worked for some reason. > I clicked them and the hour glass will pop up for a > second and no mail will be moved. It appears that your database has become corrupted. It's extremely rare to see this with the plug-in, and we're not sure why it happens (maybe Outlook or your computer crashed during training at some point?). The only solution is to retrain from scratch. You should be able to do this via the Manager dialog - just tick the "Rebuild entire database" box. If not, then you'll need to manually delete the default_bayes_database.db and default_message_database.db files in your data directory. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy.