[Spambayes] SpamBayes not catching spam in mail sorted by
InboxRules?
Dennis McCunney
dmccunney at nyc.rr.com
Thu Jun 3 20:26:16 EDT 2004
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Peters [mailto:tim.one at comcast.net]
> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 7:43 PM
> To: dmccunney at nyc.rr.com; 'SpamBayes Mailing List (E-mail)'
> Subject: RE: [Spambayes] SpamBayes not catching spam in mail sorted by
> InboxRules?
>
> [Dennis McCunney]
> > ...
> > When does SpamBayes actually look at the mail to classify
> > it? A couple of lists I'm on are prone to spam, and the spam
> > seems to get through. It *looks* like the Inbox rule is putting
> > the mail in the list folder *before* SpamBayes has a chance to
> > detect that it's spam and move it to the Junk folder.
>
> That's usually true. SpamBayes scores a piece of email when
> Outlook decides to tell SpamBayes that new email has arrived, and,
> unfortunately, it may do that before running its own rules, after
> running them, both before and after, or not at all. Tell it to
> Microsoft <wink>.
Why am I unsurprised? The only things I'd tell Microsoft these days would
be the sort of stuff not printable in a family publication.
> It's most likely that Outlook will run its own rules first, and
> you can make that *extremely* likely by enabling the SpamBayes
> "background filtering" option. It doesn't appear possible to
> convince Outlook to run Spambayes first, at least not with our c
> urrent approach (or with any other realistic approach investigated
> to date).
Again, I am unsurprised.
> Note that you can tell SpamBayes to watch any number of folders,
> not just the Inbox. That's how I filter spam from the folders my
> Rules move things into.
Now that I know that's the work-around, it's what I'll probably do.
Out of curiousity, would installing SpamBayes as a proxy the way it would be
set up for Outlook Express instead of as a plugin to Outlook address this?
For that matter, can it be installed *both* ways on the same machine? I use
Outlook for email, but my other half doesn't. She gets little spam, so this
is a "future refrence" sort of thing.
> Someone recently reported horrible problems when trying that with
> (hard to say) about 1,000 different folders, spread across
> multiple .pst files, but nobody has reported problems with
> non-extreme use.
I have about 125 folders, and *one* PST file. Granted, the PST file is over
a gigabyte. (And that's after a massive purge. Outlook arppears to have
issues when the mailbox.pst file grows over 2GB...)
> > I could be wrong about that (and probably am),
>
> Nope! Sometimes appearances aren't deceiving <wink>.
>
> > but I am curious. A quick glance at the FAQ didn't reveal an
> > answer. Apologies if it was there and I just didn't see it: I'm
> > one of those folks who *does* RTFM. :)
>
> That's appreciated. Want to be one of those folks who WTFM?
> I think we could benefit by explaining what's known about the
> excruciating interactions between SB and Rules in a comprehensible way.
Once *I* understand it, and if I have time, I'd be happy to. I don't know
about the first, but the second won't happen any time soon.
______
Dennis
More information about the Spambayes
mailing list