From ken_leonard at earthlink.net Tue Jun 1 01:26:59 2004 From: ken_leonard at earthlink.net (Ken Leonard) Date: Tue Jun 1 01:27:13 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Cannot Install Multiple Users Win XP Pro, Outlook 2003, SpamBayes 1.0rc1 Message-ID: Howdy; Win XP Pro Outlook 2003 SpamBayes 1.0rc1 SpamBayes installed ok for user with Admin privileges -- shows in COM Addins list, shows enabled, appears to run OK. Multiple attempts to install for Non-Admin "Restricted" user -- Installation aborts and does rollback because unable to write to ...\Program Files\SpamBayes\... Attempt to run outlook_addin_register.exe has no effect when run _by_ the non-privileged user, even if run _as_ the privileged user. How _do_ I install for non-privileged users? Thanx, Ken Leonard From cgroff at markssupply.net Tue Jun 1 08:03:52 2004 From: cgroff at markssupply.net (cgroff) Date: Tue Jun 1 08:02:40 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with Configuration In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677ED5@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <000d01c447d0$81c5cc90$6d1716ac@markssupply.com> Attached is my .ini config file. I've also upgraded to the newer version and the problem still persists whenever I try and change those 2 cache yes/no options under the 'Storage Options' heading. > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] > Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 8:17 PM > To: 'cgroff'; spambayes@python.org > Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Problem with Configuration > > > It runs fine for the most part however I'm trying to change > > some of the configuration settings. In particular the 2 cache > > yes/no options. > [...] > > AttributeError: 'tuple' object has no attribute 'split' > > This problem has been reported by a number of people, with lots of > difference options. I can't duplicate it, and am reasonably convinced > that > it's caused by the configuration file having an old version of an option, > but I don't know which one. > > Any chance that you could send us (or me) your configuration file? You > can > remove or XXX out the server values, if you like. > > =Tony Meyer > > --- > Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies > (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This > way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677EDE@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <40BC7793.6040106@videotron.ca> Hi Juman, >I'm using Spambayes-1.0rc1 with Python 2.3.4 on RedHat Enterprise Linux ES >3.0 >I also upgraded Python 2.2.3 to 2.3.4 just in case. > >There are two mbox files that I'm trying to use to train Spambayes >mbox_inbox (212513 bytes) >mbox_spam (32851 bytes) > >I ran >$ /usr/bin/sb_mboxtrain.py -d $HOME/.hammie.db -g $HOME/mbox_inbox -s >$HOME/mbox_spam >Training ham (/home/olbyun/mbox_inbox): > Reading as Unix mbox > Trained 0 out of 0 messages >Training spam (/home/olbyun/mbox_spam): > Reading as Unix mbox > Trained 0 out of 0 messages > >Now the file size is reset to 0 and the file size of .hammie.db is not >changed. I'm not sure if this is a normal behavior. > > No this is not a normal behavior, sb_mboxtrain should only add a header to the email and write it back to the mbox Are you sure the mbox files contain complete emails. What you can do is try with a mbox of only one message and then check if the database is created. Remi -- /"\ \ / X ASCII Ribbon Campaign / \ Against HTML Email From VBCoder at iUpTown.com Tue Jun 1 09:35:53 2004 From: VBCoder at iUpTown.com (VBCoder) Date: Tue Jun 1 09:36:23 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] More Error Messages in log file? Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: Tim Peters [mailto:tim.one@comcast.net] Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 9:30 PM To: 'VBCoder'; Spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] More Error Messages in log file? see below -> [VBCoder] > My annoyance still stands, that if I knew that there was a > compatibility issue with OL2K I would not have tried the product. Eh? I don't know of any compatibility issue with OL2K. At least thousands of people use the Outlook addin with OL2K happily. I'm one of them; I also use it happily with OL2003. Are you talking about the MS KB article I pointed you at earlier? If so, that only mentions OL2K, but in reality the unreliability of ItemAdd isn't limited to OL2K. I need to enable background filtering under OL2003 for the same reason. If you need to blame someone, you'll need to blame MS, for both ItemAdd's glitches and for letting their docs get out of date. Outlook 2003 introduced a NewMailEx event which *may* be a reliable way (and a more efficient way) to learn about new messages, but it looks like that fires before rules (and, of course, isn't available before OL2003). I assumed that this meant that this issue was related to OL2K. This leads me to believe that there is a compatibility issue with OL2K or at least a more significant issue with OL2K then any newer releases. I can assure you that if it was mentioned in the download area as an issue, I would not have tried it. I am not in the business of blaming and pointing fingers, just lending a little constructive criticism. In my opinion, this issue is big enough to warrant a warning to those that would like to try it. I tried Tony's suggestion (yours too) and selected a few top level folders (not the very top as that is not allowed) and checked the subfolders box. Then enabled the timers. It was almost 12 hours before I could use the computer. It seems that it takes over the whole PC and not just Outlook. I was completely locked out of the entire PC for that time period. When it was finished, I found that most if not all the Spam fields had a value in it. Now the problem was that none of my Outlook rules fired. All of the messages that did not fall into Spam or Unsure where still in the Inbox. Needless to say, I have turned all of that off again. I am now stumbling along with this product until I can find one more suitable for my environment. Suggestion: This plug-in should be coded to give up control periodically (frequently) so the OS and Outlook can do other tasks. Once again, The SpamBayes Outlook plug-in is a great idea. It needs to be able to insure that it processes before any Outlook rules are fired as timing is essential here. Your timer/Folder-subFolder work around seems to work under a small work load but is not usable when there is a large work load. Paul From dblai at allstate.com Tue Jun 1 11:41:13 2004 From: dblai at allstate.com (Black, Dave (ICT)) Date: Tue Jun 1 11:42:03 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] installation question Message-ID: <0BF482116FEFCA4392898C6C19B67E15A00B8F@a0001-xpo0117-s.hodc.ad.allstate.com> I have a question about installing the newest RC candidate. I currently have ver. 1.0b installed and I'm wondering if I need to uninstall this version before installing the latest RC version. I don't want to lose any of my settings and the training database. Thanks. Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040601/e5e8a4e1/attachment.html From papaDoc at videotron.ca Tue Jun 1 12:27:22 2004 From: papaDoc at videotron.ca (papaDoc) Date: Tue Jun 1 12:27:27 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] deleted Junk folder In-Reply-To: <399E1F52E73BD41194A800D0B74A08AB0274E0FF@skipper.cincom.com> References: <399E1F52E73BD41194A800D0B74A08AB0274E0FF@skipper.cincom.com> Message-ID: <40BCAE6A.6020105@videotron.ca> Hi, > I deleted the Junk folder because that was the easiest way to delete > its contents. I was thinking that spambayes would be smart enough to > recreate it when it needed it. I guess I was wrong, and spambayes is > no longer working. What do I need to do to correct this? > You can take a look at: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#help-i-deleted-the-unsure-spam-folder Remi -- /"\ \ / X ASCII Ribbon Campaign / \ Against HTML Email From tim.one at comcast.net Tue Jun 1 12:49:18 2004 From: tim.one at comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Tue Jun 1 12:49:28 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] More Error Messages in log file? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [Tim Peters] >> Outlook 2003 introduced a NewMailEx event which *may* be a >> reliable way (and a more efficient way) to learn about new messages, but >> it looks like that fires before rules (and, of course, isn't available >> before OL2003). [VBCoder] > I assumed that this meant that this issue was related to OL2K. This > leads me to believe that there is a compatibility issue with OL2K or at > least a more significant issue with OL2K then any newer releases. Sorry, I don't follow that logic. When MS introduces a new API function, and especially one that ends with "Ex", it almost always means that there are problems in all previous versions of the API that cannot be fixed short of introducing the new function. If, e.g., ItemAdd had been, or could have been, fixed in OL2000 or OL2002 or OL2003, there would have been no need for the new function. SpamBayes doesn't use NewMailEx, BTW, and ItemAdd isn't any more predictable in OL2003 or OL2002 than in OL2000. > I can assure you that if it was mentioned in the download area as an > issue, I would not have tried it. Please suggest specific text you would have liked to see. You're the only one to have a complaint here so far, and I really don't know what would have made you happy. The download page certainly isn't the place for a discussion of bugs and workarounds in Outlook's event system, so the text needs to be brief and easily comprehensible to non-programmers. > I am not in the business of blaming and pointing fingers, just lending a > little constructive criticism. In my opinion, this issue is big enough > to warrant a warning to those that would like to try it. Based on our experience so far, the background filtering option made this a non-issue for almost everyone. You're the "almost" . > I tried Tony's suggestion (yours too) and selected a few top level > folders (not the very top as that is not allowed) and checked the > subfolders box. Then enabled the timers. It was almost 12 hours before I > could use the computer. Yikes! That sucks. Since nobody has tried a thousand (or more) folders before, the cause could be anywhere (in Outlook, in MAPI, in SpamBayes). > It seems that it takes over the whole PC and not just Outlook. I was > completely locked out of the entire PC for that time period. That *suggests* it's going crazy in a system DLL. Nothing in the Python code changes thread priority. > When it was finished, I found that most if not all the Spam fields had > a value in it. Now the problem was that none of my Outlook > rules fired. There's nothing SpamBayes can do to prevent Outlook rules from firing: that part of Outlook isn't exposed in the Outlook object model, so there's nothing we can do to influence it (let alone stop it). My best guess is that adding handlers for ItemAdd events on that many folders isn't something Microsoft ever tried either, and that Outlook just can't handle the load. > All of the messages that did not fall into Spam or Unsure where still > in the Inbox. I don't know exactly what you did, so won't speculate. > Needless to say, I have turned all of that off again. I am now stumbling > along with this product until I can find one more suitable for my > environment. Do let us know if you find one! For people who don't like SpamBayes for whatever reason, I usually recommend trying the POPFile addin: http://www.vargonsoft.com/Outclass/ I'm not sure you can live with that either, though (specifically, its docs don't appear to say anything about how it does or doesn't work with Outlook rules, or with a massive number of folders). > Suggestion: This plug-in should be coded to give up control periodically > (frequently) so the OS and Outlook can do other tasks. When doing massive amounts of scoring, SpamBayes can make Outlook unresponsive (because SpamBayes runs *in* Outlook's process space), but isn't capable of preventing the OS from task-switching. Some deeper-level software must be doing that part, possibly in the bowels of MAPI. > Once again, The SpamBayes Outlook plug-in is a great idea. It needs to > be able to insure that it processes before any Outlook rules are fired as > timing is essential here. Your timer/Folder-subFolder work around seems > to work under a small work load but is not usable when there is a large > work load. I'm not sure what "large" means to you. I routinely get, e.g., 300 new messages at a time, at cable-modem speed. SpamBayes has no problem with that on any of the 4 machines I routinely run it on (3 with OL2000, 1 with OL2003; 2 Win98SE, 1 Win2K and 1 WinXP). But I've only got a dozen .pst files, and most of them contain only 1 or 2 non-system folders. Scoring tens of thousands of msgs at one time (via the Filtering menu item) makes Outlook completely unusable for the duration (it's a modal dialog), but doesn't prevent OS task-switching either. As I said before, there is no known way to convince Outlook to run SpamBayes before its own rules. On OL2003 and later, it may be possible to exploit NewMailEx to do so, but nobody has tried that yet. I should also note that *most* people think having SpamBayes run after rules is "a feature", not "a bug". For example, some people do whitelisting this way (by, e.g., using an Outlook rule to move msgs claiming to be from their boss into a folder SpamBayes doesn't watch). From jeff at teamestrogen.com Tue Jun 1 16:10:00 2004 From: jeff at teamestrogen.com (Jeff Mendenhall) Date: Tue Jun 1 16:03:43 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Delete As Spam - Doesn't always work Message-ID: <002101c44814$6e2a2ca0$0a01a8c0@teamestrogen.local> [Geoff Campbell] > Sometimes (very rarely) when I select an obvious spam message and > "click" on "Delete As Spam", nothing happens. It seems that the > message is "SpamBayes proof"! This happens once every several days, > but I can't see a pattern. Using Outlook 2002 (SP-1). Would be > happy to send you a representative email. That would be good. There's probably a helpful (to us ) message in your SpamBayes log file whenever this happens. A real problem is that Outlook destroys the exact structure of incoming email, so you may not actually be able to give anyone else an email that reproduces the problem. When "nothing happens" in an otherwise-working SpamBayes, the usual cause is that the email is so badly formed (violates so many standards about how email *should* be constructed) that the SpamBayes email parser gives up trying to make any sense of it. If that's what's happening, you will find helpful (to us) information in your SpamBayes log file. #### I too am seeing this behavior - on about 1% of spam (I get 2 or 3 messages a day that won't delete as spam). I am using Outlook 2002 SP3 on XP Pro SP1, SpamBayes 1.0b1 log file indicates: Folder 'Personal Folders/Junk Suspects' already has field 'Spam' OnSelectionChange pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 283, in _Invoke_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 288, in _invoke_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 550, in _invokeex_ File "addin.pyc", line 633, in OnClick File "manager.pyc", line 802, in score File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 190, in chi2_spamprob File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 493, in _getclues File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 504, in _worddistanceget File "spambayes\storage.pyc", line 261, in _wordinfoget File "shelve.pyc", line 111, in get File "shelve.pyc", line 119, in __getitem__ exceptions.ValueError: could not convert string to int From lizbette at knightcap.com Tue Jun 1 18:08:04 2004 From: lizbette at knightcap.com (liz hockinson) Date: Tue Jun 1 18:08:08 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] hotbar Message-ID: spambayes has disabled my hotbar tool bar. do you know how I can fix it? it is a program on outlook to put animations on my e mail. Thanks, liz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040601/27c6305c/attachment.html From service at paypal.com Tue Jun 1 18:45:45 2004 From: service at paypal.com (service@paypal.com) Date: Tue Jun 1 19:17:18 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] New email address added to your PayPal account Message-ID: <200406012245.i51MjjZ06979@stargazer.primenetwork.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040601/7b080b94/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Jun 1 20:26:14 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Jun 1 20:28:20 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with Configuration In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F130696701B@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677EEA@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Attached is my .ini config file. I've also upgraded to the > newer version and the problem still persists whenever I try > and change those 2 cache yes/no options under the 'Storage > Options' heading. Thanks for that. I've checked in a fix for this, so it'll be fixed in a future release (although this might be a bit late to make it into 1.0). The problem is with the notate_subject option. If you remove this or change it to more than one value (spam and unsure, for example), then the problem will go away. As a workaround, you could remove that option (manually), add any other options you need via the web interface, and then put it back (manually). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Jun 1 20:31:26 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Jun 1 20:33:25 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] installation question In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13069670A6@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677EEB@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I have a question about installing the newest RC > candidate. I currently have ver. 1.0b installed and > I'm wondering if I need to uninstall this version before > installing the latest RC version. It's not necessary, although it won't do any harm, either. > I don't want to lose any of my settings and the training > database. Uninstalling doesn't touch anything in your data directory, which includes all your configuration and training. This means you can uninstall and reinstall (same version, or different) and no settings or training will be lost. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Jun 1 20:33:23 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Jun 1 20:35:25 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] email gets scored properly but is not moved to junkfolder In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13069670AF@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677EEC@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Incoming messages are getting scored properly by > SpamBayes, and are recognized as spam, but are being > left in the "IN" box, even though during configuration > it was directed to the Junk e-mail box. No e-mail goes > into the junk folder, but occasionally an email makes > it into the suspect folder. If you could send us a copy of your most recent log file, that would greatly help in figuring this out. The troubleshooting guide explains where to find the log. You could try checking that the folder is still set correctly. Do SpamBayes->SpamBayes Manager->Filtering (tab) and click the Browse button next to the spam folder, checking that it's correct. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Jun 1 20:36:02 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Jun 1 20:38:02 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] hotbar In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306967167@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677EED@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > spambayes has disabled my hotbar tool bar. > do you know how I can fix it? You could try checking to see if Outlook has disabled it (with Outlook 2002/2003): Help->About Microsoft Outlook->Disabled Items. You could try seeing if it's listed in the COM add-ins (assuming that it normally would be - I'm not familiar with the tool bar at all). Tools->Options->Other->Advanced Options->COM Add-ins. If it's just not visible any more, you can try right-clicking on any other toolbar, and clicking next to the one you want visible. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From hera at optonline.net Tue Jun 1 22:04:46 2004 From: hera at optonline.net (Erin Lazzaro) Date: Tue Jun 1 22:04:48 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] What performance is good? In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C021C@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <004601c44845$fa968bd0$6401a8c0@Peacemaker> I adjusted my thresholds to get 5% of total incoming in Suspects: 5% and 16%. I've been running that way for a little over a week, and I've had no ham in Junk and only 2 ham in Suspects. There were 13 spam in Inbox, so I'm going to lower that threshold a little. I think I'm ready to stop being so careful with my training and switch to incremental. I have one question: If I move a message to Junk on my PDA, how can I determine later on whether SB actually trained on that message? Thanks, Erin -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 10:43 PM To: 'Erin Lazzaro'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] What performance is good? > How much do you expect to see in Junk Suspects? Good results would be 2-5% of total incoming mail, IMO. > I get about 15% ham. All the ham goes in Inbox (I had one > ham in Junk Suspects last week), along with 1 or 2 spam, > which is beautiful. 25% to 30% of incoming mail goes in Junk > Suspects. Is that reasonable? Are you displaying the scores for these messages? If so, do they all tend to score over a certain value? You might find, for example, that you can simply reduce the spam threshold (say to 80%) and the problem goes away. What do you have the thresholds set for now? (SpamBayes->SpamBayes Manager->iltering) > My database is unbalanced (36 ham/84 spam), so I'm only > training on ham in Junk Suspects (i.e., hardly ever). Should > I be seeking ham to train on? IMO, that's not imbalanced enough to worry about. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From draaiorgel at www.draaiorgel.org Wed Jun 2 05:29:11 2004 From: draaiorgel at www.draaiorgel.org (draaiorgel@www.draaiorgel.org) Date: Wed Jun 2 05:29:22 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Automated reply from draaiorgel@www.draaiorgel.org Message-ID: <200406020929.i529TBM03633@waalhaven.igr.nl> Dank u voor uw mail. Ik zal u zo spoedig mogelijk antwoorden. Thank you for your email. I will reply to you as soon as possible. From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Wed Jun 2 07:28:37 2004 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Wed Jun 2 07:28:41 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] installation question Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F500146E306@SPIKE.city> I didn't, and I didn't. (I have in the past, but this time I got lazy.) I'm using the Outlook plugin with WXP Pro SP1 and Office 2000. Bob -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of Black, Dave (ICT) Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 11:41 AM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] installation question I have a question about installing the newest RC candidate. I currently have ver. 1.0b installed and I'm wondering if I need to uninstall this version before installing the latest RC version. I don't want to lose any of my settings and the training database. Thanks. Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Bob > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces@python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of John Byrd > Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 1:25 PM > To: 'Tim Peters' > Cc: spambayes@python.org > Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Low-priority feature request > > > > I believe the database would have to save additional info to have any hope > > of giving a meaningful report about "most indicative of spam". These aren't > > necessarily the tokens with the highest spamprobs! For most people, who do > > some form of mistake-based training, the tokens with the highest spamprobs > > are merely those that got *trained* on most often. > > > What this shows is what I already knew : most of the Unsures I train > > on as spam are autoreply or bounce kinds of messages, due to virus and spam > > email forged to appear as if it came from one of the public admin and help > > addresses I volunteer for, or from one of my personal addresses. I get a > > ton of these, and they're spam to me. > > A fascinating analysis, Tim... and it does suggest to me that there is useful > information in the spam database... but a human will always have to make > sense of the top and bottom 10% spamprobs. In my case, I'm receiving a huge > quantity of spam on "mail.well.com". I'm guessing that spammers, at one > time or another, have tried every legal e-mail address on this server in > order to find mine. Same thing on an old college e-mail forwarding account, > which I never use. > > So SpamBayes helped me find this source of spam, which is highly specific to > my personal e-mail situation. > > jwb From info at internships4you.net Wed Jun 2 09:25:09 2004 From: info at internships4you.net (internships4you.net) Date: Wed Jun 2 09:25:30 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Internships4you Follow-up from CEO Message-ID: As a non-profit, you may not have received our previous message about posting your internship, volunteer, or co-op opportunity on our website, Internships4you.com, free of charge. As a reminder, Internships4You.com is a new, unique intern recruitment site with college and university career center contacts worldwide. If you are a non-profit and would like to post your internship openings on our site, please go to http://www.internships4you.com/employers/register.php4 and fill out the registration form. 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Thanks in advance From Amir_Katz at bmc.com Wed Jun 2 11:33:42 2004 From: Amir_Katz at bmc.com (Katz, Amir) Date: Wed Jun 2 11:34:46 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Bayes Message-ID: If you deposit money in my Nigerian bank account, I'll get it for you, free :-) Just kidding - it's a free, open-source project. Amir -----Original Message----- From: Mike Caringi [mailto:mike@pumps-parts.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 17:22 To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Bayes I have been using Spam bayes for some time....recently I had to uninstall it .How do I get it again without having to pay again? Michael Caringi Tri-State Pump, Inc. 2403 Paynters Road Manasquan, NJ 08736 732-223-3222 p 732-223-2587 f -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040602/71b8307d/attachment.html From tim.one at comcast.net Wed Jun 2 11:36:57 2004 From: tim.one at comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Wed Jun 2 11:37:04 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spam Bayes In-Reply-To: <20040602142344.VHPH3910.out005.verizon.net@MIKE> Message-ID: [Mike Caringi] > I have been using Spam bayes for some time....recently I had to uninstall > it?? .How do I get it again without having to pay again? Mike, are you sure you meant to send this to spambayes@python.org? All versions of SpamBayes we distribute are available without cost, from: http://www.spambayes.org So if you're using SpamBayes, the answer is "download it". If you're not really using SpamBayes, I don't think we can help you. From cgroff at markssupply.net Wed Jun 2 12:17:49 2004 From: cgroff at markssupply.net (cgroff) Date: Wed Jun 2 12:16:38 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with Configuration In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677EEA@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <01d901c448bd$276ab560$6d1716ac@markssupply.com> That did the trick thanks for your help. > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 8:26 PM > To: 'cgroff'; spambayes@python.org > Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Problem with Configuration > > > Attached is my .ini config file. I've also upgraded to the > > newer version and the problem still persists whenever I try > > and change those 2 cache yes/no options under the 'Storage > > Options' heading. > > Thanks for that. I've checked in a fix for this, so it'll be fixed in a > future release (although this might be a bit late to make it into 1.0). > > The problem is with the notate_subject option. If you remove this or > change > it to more than one value (spam and unsure, for example), then the problem > will go away. As a workaround, you could remove that option (manually), > add > any other options you need via the web interface, and then put it back > (manually). > > =Tony Meyer From aw-confirm at ebay.com Wed Jun 2 18:26:19 2004 From: aw-confirm at ebay.com (aw-confirm@ebay.com) Date: Wed Jun 2 18:57:29 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] eBay Change E-mail Message-ID: <200406022226.i52MQJr13876@stargazer.primenetwork.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040602/f1934176/attachment.html From cpace at hnsg.net Wed Jun 2 21:16:16 2004 From: cpace at hnsg.net (Christopher J. Pace) Date: Wed Jun 2 21:14:44 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Error(s) with MS Outlook 2002/xp on Windows XP Message-ID: <33213.192.168.0.23.1086225376.squirrel@192.168.0.23> Hi list, I have a problem with one of my clients. The software installed basically is: Windows XP Pro (all updates) Office XP Pro (all current updates, including SP3) Spambayes latest binary for Win32 Basically, the client installed SpamBayes ok, no installation issues. However, when SpamBayes was configured, and shortly after, Outlook will no longer startup, giving an error with mso.dll at 0x000099A8. Client immediately uninstalled SpamBayes. Everything came out ok with the uninstall, no errors given. Outlook still does not work, throwing the above error. I repaired, reinstalled, and finally uninstalled, deleted mso.dll, then re-installed. Outlook still bails out on startup (but I can get in through Outlook safe mode). I confirmed that the install did create a mso.dll file, and it is the same size in bytes. I then got all the Office XP updates, still to no avail. No problems are encountered with any other Office products on the same machine, and I scanned for viruses as well, no luck. Has anyone encountered anything like this before? What is the reccomended fix? Thanks to all, and esp. to the SpamBayes devel team, for creating such a great anti-spam product that rocks. -- Christopher J. Pace System Administrator/Webmaster/Founder of HNSG http://hnsg.net ssh://request@hnsg.net System Administrator of http://seamlessvision.net From skuterpu at anv.net Thu Jun 3 03:53:05 2004 From: skuterpu at anv.net (skuterpu) Date: Thu Jun 3 03:53:15 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes just stopped working during training! Message-ID: <000001c4493f$d2976140$4994e304@carolynsrzulbf> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If so we can begin to think about solving the | Unicode decoding problems (maybe by just blindly trying a few more | more encodings). I installed Python 2.3 and got things to work with that. I've been way too busy to even think of trying this out since. Sorry. (Making use of a wasted meeting to answer these emails.) Conclusion on the corruption: hammie.db was ok, messageinfo.db was broken. I could export hammie.db, but not messageinfo.db. Solved the problem by deleting messageinfo.db and starting from scratch with a new one. So apparently Tim was right that there is no cure for database corruption. -- Lars Marius Garshol, Ontopian GSM: +47 98 21 55 50 From frlinux at frlinux.net Thu Jun 3 09:19:11 2004 From: frlinux at frlinux.net (frlinux@frlinux.net) Date: Thu Jun 3 09:21:58 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] website documentation error Message-ID: <41051.::ffff:160.6.1.82.1086268751.squirrel@triskell.frlinux.net> Hello, I installed spambayes latest on my woody, and your documentation page mentions /usr/local/bin/sb_filter.py which should be /usr/bin/sb_fliter.py instead. http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/unix.html Steph -- Sent from Linux Debian Woody with a VIA C3 http://frlinux.net - frlinux@frlinux.net From lkitchin at dow.com Thu Jun 3 09:36:42 2004 From: lkitchin at dow.com (Kitchin, Lou Ann (LA)) Date: Thu Jun 3 09:37:40 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Message-ID: <8A83C8F5E54C9548806C878FC7E0AE702592F7@CASRNMDOWM011.dow.com> Will spambayes work when running Outlook in off-line mode. When working in Outlook off-line it is setup to send/receive every minute. So will spambayes still move the new incoming emails to Junk email if that is how it is trained? LouAnn Kitchin ------------------------------ Dow Automotive Field Sales System Support Phone 248-391-6585 Cellular 248-761-9533 From jepler at unpythonic.net Thu Jun 3 10:06:52 2004 From: jepler at unpythonic.net (Jeff Epler) Date: Thu Jun 3 10:07:00 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] website documentation error In-Reply-To: <41051.::ffff:160.6.1.82.1086268751.squirrel@triskell.frlinux.net> References: <41051.::ffff:160.6.1.82.1086268751.squirrel@triskell.frlinux.net> Message-ID: <20040603140651.GH19278@unpythonic.net> The path to the sb_filter script will be the same as the prefix you used when installing Python, which is probably /usr when you installed Python using your OS's package management software, and is more likely to be /usr/local if you built your own. Rather than just changing the path in the documentation, I'd put a note that the path depends on your Python installation, and that you can refer to the output of "setup.py install" to find the location. Jeff -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040603/8449fb9e/attachment.bin From Amir_Katz at bmc.com Thu Jun 3 10:20:47 2004 From: Amir_Katz at bmc.com (Katz, Amir) Date: Thu Jun 3 10:27:28 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Message-ID: Yes. The plug-in is activated whenever a new mail is dropped into the mail folder which is monitored, usually the "Inbox". -----Original Message----- From: Kitchin, Lou Ann (LA) [mailto:lkitchin@dow.com] Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 16:37 To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Will spambayes work when running Outlook in off-line mode. When working in Outlook off-line it is setup to send/receive every minute. So will spambayes still move the new incoming emails to Junk email if that is how it is trained? LouAnn Kitchin ------------------------------ Dow Automotive Field Sales System Support Phone 248-391-6585 Cellular 248-761-9533 _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From laron at telonics.com Thu Jun 3 11:07:35 2004 From: laron at telonics.com (Laron Swapp) Date: Thu Jun 3 11:06:50 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Deleting a Message as Spam Takes a Long Time Message-ID: To Whom It May Concern: I've really liked using the SpamBayes system but have found recently that deleting a message as spam takes 5-10 seconds. Is this normal? My database has about 120 messages in it. Also, when I make it so SpamBayes marks a message as read, Outlook doesn't clear the envelope tray icon in the taskbar telling me I have new mail. Is there any way to make the tray icon go away when I get junk mail? Thanks to those on the development team for a great program. Regards, Laron Swapp Engineer, Research and Development Telonics, Inc. From David.Kirkup at gov.ab.ca Thu Jun 3 13:33:48 2004 From: David.Kirkup at gov.ab.ca (David Kirkup) Date: Thu Jun 3 13:34:04 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Moving database location ... question Message-ID: <6DEEFD79C27F0A4F9090785AA7A08532040CC27F@edm-goa-exch-11.goa.ds.gov.ab.ca> Hello, I have noticed that the database gets very large. We use roaming profiles and would like to move the database to a location in the profile that is designated as non-roaming. Is this possible? 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Thanks, Tim From roger at harcofittings.com Thu Jun 3 10:33:20 2004 From: roger at harcofittings.com (Roger Sockwell) Date: Thu Jun 3 14:23:23 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] FW: Document1 Message-ID: <000c01c44977$b7d9b2d0$8701a8c0@ITROGER> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Doc1.doc Type: application/msword Size: 71680 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040603/ba9975f4/Doc1-0001.doc From adaptorsbody at excite.com Thu Jun 3 13:14:40 2004 From: adaptorsbody at excite.com (Carolyn Amato) Date: Thu Jun 3 15:52:29 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] C1ALI*S & LEV1T*RA starts WORKING up to twice as fast as V1AG~RA & last up to 24-36 h0urs Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It's been a while since I've used the outlook plugin, but if you have the move button also set to train, then it can cause a bit of a delay esp. if you have a slower machine (and keep in mind sb is not a speed demon to start with). > > Also, when I make it so SpamBayes marks a message as read, Outlook doesn't > clear the envelope tray icon in the taskbar telling me I have new mail. Is > there any way to make the tray icon go away when I get junk mail? > I tried to do the same, I gave up on this, and just turn off the icon in outlook. Mike -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Have you done any of the things that the error suggests? i.e. run "Detect and Repair", and check how much memory is available. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From dmccunney at nyc.rr.com Thu Jun 3 19:24:38 2004 From: dmccunney at nyc.rr.com (Dennis McCunney) Date: Thu Jun 3 19:26:15 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes not catching spam in mail sorted by Inbox Rules? Message-ID: <002d01c449c1$f0fb3fd0$73aa4142@arda> Hello, all: I have SpamBayes 1.0rc1 installed as an Outlook Plugin in Outlook 2000, running under Windows 2000 Pro. I have two profiles set up in Outlook: one for personal mail to my home address, which comes from a couple of POP3 servers, and one for work email, accessed from a corporate Exchange Server over a VPN link. For the most part, I'm *delighted* with SpamBayes. It installed with no problems, runs like a top, and has been extremely effective at catching spam. Just about everything it suspects is spam *is* spam. I think I've had all of half-a-dozen "false positives" since installing it a month ago. I do have one quirk. I'm on an assortment of mailing lists, and have a plethora of Inbox rules to automatically sort list mail into folders on arrival, so only mail I should probably look at immediately should be in my Inbox. When does SpamBayes actually look at the mail to classify it? A couple of lists I'm on are prone to spam, and the spam seems to get through. It *looks* like the Inbox rule is putting the mail in the list folder *before* SpamBayes has a chance to detect that it's spam and move it to the Junk folder. I could be wrong about that (and probably am), but I am curious. A quick glance at the FAQ didn't reveal an answer. Apologies if it was there and I just didn't see it: I'm one of those folks who *does* RTFM. :) ______ Dennis From tim.one at comcast.net Thu Jun 3 19:40:07 2004 From: tim.one at comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Thu Jun 3 19:40:15 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] FW: Document1 In-Reply-To: <000c01c44977$b7d9b2d0$8701a8c0@ITROGER> Message-ID: [Roger Sockwell] > This error must be caused by spambayes, vpmsece.dll isn't a DLL SpamBayes installs or even uses. > not critical but very annoying. Is there any suggestions? I'd try using Google. 15 seconds of that suggests it's a Symantec DLL, and that this error message is a FAQ for people using some of their virus-scanning products. Go to http://www.symantec.com/search/ and enter vpmsece in the Search box to get started. That will get you 16 Symantec support documents talking about this message. One of them might even help . From tim.one at comcast.net Thu Jun 3 19:42:59 2004 From: tim.one at comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Thu Jun 3 19:43:08 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes not catching spam in mail sorted by InboxRules? In-Reply-To: <002d01c449c1$f0fb3fd0$73aa4142@arda> Message-ID: [Dennis McCunney] > ... > When does SpamBayes actually look at the mail to classify it? A couple > of lists I'm on are prone to spam, and the spam seems to get through. It > *looks* like the Inbox rule is putting the mail in the list folder > *before* SpamBayes has a chance to detect that it's spam and move it to > the Junk folder. That's usually true. SpamBayes scores a piece of email when Outlook decides to tell SpamBayes that new email has arrived, and, unfortunately, it may do that before running its own rules, after running them, both before and after, or not at all. Tell it to Microsoft . It's most likely that Outlook will run its own rules first, and you can make that *extremely* likely by enabling the SpamBayes "background filtering" option. It doesn't appear possible to convince Outlook to run Spambayes first, at least not with our current approach (or with any other realistic approach investigated to date). Note that you can tell SpamBayes to watch any number of folders, not just the Inbox. That's how I filter spam from the folders my Rules move things into. Someone recently reported horrible problems when trying that with (hard to say) about 1,000 different folders, spread across multiple .pst files, but nobody has reported problems with non-extreme use. > I could be wrong about that (and probably am), Nope! Sometimes appearances aren't deceiving . > but I am curious. A quick glance at the FAQ didn't reveal an answer. > Apologies if it was there and I just didn't see it: I'm one of those > folks who *does* RTFM. :) That's appreciated. Want to be one of those folks who WTFM? I think we could benefit by explaining what's known about the excruciating interactions between SB and Rules in a comprehensible way. From ejohnson at imagewireless.ca Thu Jun 3 19:44:18 2004 From: ejohnson at imagewireless.ca (Eric Johnson) Date: Thu Jun 3 19:44:24 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] FW: Document1 In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677F01@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: Was a new version of Norton Anti-Virus recently installed? According to Symantec, this error occurs when a new version is installed, but Outlook is still looking in the old place for this particular file... Symantec's website has all the details on how to fix the problem. Eric Johnson -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Tony Meyer Sent: June 3, 2004 5:06 PM To: 'Roger Sockwell'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] FW: Document1 Note that it's not generally a good idea to post Word files here. Just write out the error message in the body of the email. (Not everyone has Word, and Word files are sometimes used to carry viruses, or are generally better unopened if from an unknown source). > This error must be caused by spambayes, not critical > but very annoying. Why must it be caused by SpamBayes? I couldn't see anything about the error that looked related to SpamBayes at all. > Is there any suggestions? Have you done any of the things that the error suggests? i.e. run "Detect and Repair", and check how much memory is available. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From dmccunney at nyc.rr.com Thu Jun 3 20:26:16 2004 From: dmccunney at nyc.rr.com (Dennis McCunney) Date: Thu Jun 3 20:28:04 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes not catching spam in mail sorted by InboxRules? In-Reply-To: <200406032343.i53Nh5et029129@nycmx03.mgw.rr.com> Message-ID: <002f01c449ca$8d64a020$73aa4142@arda> > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim Peters [mailto:tim.one@comcast.net] > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 7:43 PM > To: dmccunney@nyc.rr.com; 'SpamBayes Mailing List (E-mail)' > Subject: RE: [Spambayes] SpamBayes not catching spam in mail sorted by > InboxRules? > > [Dennis McCunney] > > ... > > When does SpamBayes actually look at the mail to classify > > it? A couple of lists I'm on are prone to spam, and the spam > > seems to get through. It *looks* like the Inbox rule is putting > > the mail in the list folder *before* SpamBayes has a chance to > > detect that it's spam and move it to the Junk folder. > > That's usually true. SpamBayes scores a piece of email when > Outlook decides to tell SpamBayes that new email has arrived, and, > unfortunately, it may do that before running its own rules, after > running them, both before and after, or not at all. Tell it to > Microsoft . Why am I unsurprised? The only things I'd tell Microsoft these days would be the sort of stuff not printable in a family publication. > It's most likely that Outlook will run its own rules first, and > you can make that *extremely* likely by enabling the SpamBayes > "background filtering" option. It doesn't appear possible to > convince Outlook to run Spambayes first, at least not with our c > urrent approach (or with any other realistic approach investigated > to date). Again, I am unsurprised. > Note that you can tell SpamBayes to watch any number of folders, > not just the Inbox. That's how I filter spam from the folders my > Rules move things into. Now that I know that's the work-around, it's what I'll probably do. Out of curiousity, would installing SpamBayes as a proxy the way it would be set up for Outlook Express instead of as a plugin to Outlook address this? For that matter, can it be installed *both* ways on the same machine? I use Outlook for email, but my other half doesn't. She gets little spam, so this is a "future refrence" sort of thing. > Someone recently reported horrible problems when trying that with > (hard to say) about 1,000 different folders, spread across > multiple .pst files, but nobody has reported problems with > non-extreme use. I have about 125 folders, and *one* PST file. Granted, the PST file is over a gigabyte. (And that's after a massive purge. Outlook arppears to have issues when the mailbox.pst file grows over 2GB...) > > I could be wrong about that (and probably am), > > Nope! Sometimes appearances aren't deceiving . > > > but I am curious. A quick glance at the FAQ didn't reveal an > > answer. Apologies if it was there and I just didn't see it: I'm > > one of those folks who *does* RTFM. :) > > That's appreciated. Want to be one of those folks who WTFM? > I think we could benefit by explaining what's known about the > excruciating interactions between SB and Rules in a comprehensible way. Once *I* understand it, and if I have time, I'd be happy to. I don't know about the first, but the second won't happen any time soon. ______ Dennis From contact at poudrerie-luxembourg.com Fri Jun 4 05:13:18 2004 From: contact at poudrerie-luxembourg.com (Poudrerie de Luxembourg SA) Date: Fri Jun 4 05:12:16 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] trained with smtp proxy Message-ID: <84ABDF52C2D3484B934102C833B4B2582DE829@srvexch1.domplx.lu> Sirs, We installed spambayes version 1.0a9 on windows 2000 SP4. We received mail via spambayes in our Exchange 2000. This part is working fine and Spambayes do a good filtering of the spam. We would like to train our database by bouncing back mail via smtp proxy (so each user can trained the system). It doesn't work. All the mail forwarded back is kept in the Exchange queue, as Exchange the smtp proxy of Spambayes seems to refuse the mails.. We try to connect to Spambayes with telnet to send a message and receive almost every time a 550 unkown user when we send a RCPT TO:useraddres. Is it a known problem with our version ? If we had to install the new release 1.0rc1, how must we do it to not loose all our parameters and training database ? Thank you in advance for your help Best regards, E. Lacoste From promo at tomita-software.com Fri Jun 4 05:57:10 2004 From: promo at tomita-software.com (promo@tomita-software.com) Date: Fri Jun 4 05:57:21 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Link Exchange Message-ID: <200406040957.FAA01032@www4.serve.com> Dear Sir or Madam, As software development company we would like to suggest the opportunity to exchange links between our websites. If this is of interest to you, please use following information for link exchange. If you don't want make link-exchange or you don't know what is it, just mail us back. And of course sorry for inconvenience. URL: http://www.tomita-software.com Title: Software Outsourcing Description: we have the services, methodology, software development skills and experience to help your Information Technology initiatives succeed! Or simply copy and paste following html code: Software Outsourcing - we have the services, methodology, software development skills and experience to help your Information Technology initiatives succeed! Sincerely, Alex Tomita Software Support Team From neel at mediapulse.com Fri Jun 4 09:33:38 2004 From: neel at mediapulse.com (Michael C. Neel) Date: Fri Jun 4 09:32:23 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] 'Bayes' patent... Message-ID: <1086356018.609.27.camel@mike.mediapulse.com> Looks like the patent office has done it again: http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/06/01/2315239&mode=thread&tid=111&tid=126&tid=155&tid=99 http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=/netahtml/search-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=ptxt&s1=6732157&OS=6732157&RS=6732157 (links may wrap). I'm by no means able to understand patent documents, but this one looks as if they have a patent on the combo of several anit-spam techniques and is not as broad as made out to be. Still, given the usefulness of sb, a dev dropping the eff an email to put them on their radar may not be a bad idea. One area of concern I saw was the use of 'paragraph hashing' which sounded somewhat like some of the advanced options in sb. I'd hate to see sb unable to explore better methods because of this patent. Mike -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <1086356018.609.27.camel@mike.mediapulse.com> Message-ID: [Michael C. Neel] > Looks like the patent office has done it again: But they do this so often it's not worth worrying about. ... > I'm by no means able to understand patent documents, but this one looks > as if they have a patent on the combo of several anit-spam techniques and > is not as broad as made out to be.? Still, given the usefulness of sb, a > dev dropping the eff an email to put them on their radar may not be a bad > idea.? One area of concern I saw was the use of 'paragraph hashing' which > sounded somewhat like some of the advanced options in sb. The patent specifically mentions using an MD5 hash for paragraph fingerprinting, as one example of the infinite number of techniques they now have the exclusive right to combine with an infinite number of other techniques. SB doesn't do paragraph fingerprinting, so can't be affected by that clause. And despite its name, SB doesn't even use Bayes Rule (although it uses a different Bayesian technique). > I'd hate to see sb unable to explore better methods because of this > patent. It is hard to concentrate when you're laughing too hard to breathe . From JMandel at DDS.CA.GOV Fri Jun 4 12:13:51 2004 From: JMandel at DDS.CA.GOV (Mandel, Joel@DDS) Date: Fri Jun 4 12:14:03 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes and GroupWise Message-ID: <83F5497995A8D511965F00508BB92970031D20BA@ddsexmb01.cahwnet.gov> Dear SpamBayes, Will SpamBayes work on Windows desktops running GroupWise mail client? TIA, joel Joel Mandel Department of Developmental Services Centralized IT Services Branch 1600 Ninth Street, M.S. 2-7 Sacramento, CA 95814 (916) 651-8767 (voice) (916) 654-3352 (fax) joel.mandel@dds.ca.gov -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040604/96e78d32/attachment.html From pat.terry at uniontrib.com Fri Jun 4 15:05:46 2004 From: pat.terry at uniontrib.com (pat.terry@uniontrib.com) Date: Fri Jun 4 15:01:43 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Message-ID: I have a very basic question about My Spambayes (Version 0.9) system. If I empty my spam folder will the Spambayes lose all the training I've done? Also, I am continually having to train it, is that normal? Thank You, Patricia Terry Virtual Tour Coordinator (619) 718-5284 pat.terry@SignOnSanDiego.com From kennypitt at hotmail.com Fri Jun 4 15:40:46 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Fri Jun 4 15:42:26 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: pat.terry@uniontrib.com wrote: > If I empty my spam folder will the Spambayes lose all the training > I've done? It's OK to delete the messages, just don't delete the folder itself. See FAQ 3.15: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#is-it-ok-to-delete-the-messages-in -the-spam-folder > Also, I am continually having to train it, is that normal? It's not unusual in general, but it depends on how much training you've done and what percentage of your messages are still being classified incorrectly. You should probably be getting at least 95% accuracy, and most people get much higher than that. The good messages you receive tend to be fairly consistent, so SpamBayes should learn to recognize those pretty quickly. If you sign up for a new mailing list, or get an e-mail on a subject that you don't discuss often in e-mail, then you will probably need to train some additional messages. Spam, on the other hand, is constantly changing because the spammers are trying to find new ways around the various spam filters. It's not unusual to have to train a few spams each day, but hopefully these are all falling into the Unsure category and not left in your Inbox. -- Kenny Pitt From kennypitt at hotmail.com Fri Jun 4 15:43:56 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Fri Jun 4 15:45:36 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] tech question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At the top of the "Filter Messages" dialog you should see a box labeled "Filter the following folders". Just click the Browse button next to that box and select all the folders that you want to filter by turning on the check boxes. -- Kenny Pitt _____ From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Joe Anzalone Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 11:16 AM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] tech question New User Question A) I have set up 2 folders for training 1) Training - Ham 2) Training - Spam B) Went to "Filter Messages" Chose "Perform all filter actions" and "Unread Mail" C)Clicked on "Start Filtering" D)Got a window saying "You must specify one folder" Question: How do I "specify one folder" to begin filtering? Thanx Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040604/aecb72cb/attachment.html From kennypitt at hotmail.com Fri Jun 4 15:57:29 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Fri Jun 4 15:59:09 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Installing SpamBayes on AOL e-mail System? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Casey, Leo J wrote: > I currently have your great SpamBayes Filter on my Outlook mail > (which I downloaded from your site). Always nice to hear from satisfied users. ;-) > I would like very much to install/download it on my brother's PC, > which unfortunately uses AOL for his e-mail. > > How can I determine if AOL has/uses POP3, and if it does what do I do > next. Unfortunately, AOL uses a proprietary mail protocol and will not work with SpamBayes. As an alternative, you might have a look at AOL Communicator (available from the AOL website). It is a standalone mail client that is a modified version of Mozilla Mail, and it includes an integrated spam filter. I've never used Communicator because I don't have AOL, but I've used Mozilla Mail. In my experience, the Mozilla filter doesn't produce the same level of accuracy as SpamBayes, but it is based on some of the same statistical analysis ideas and usually produces "reasonable" results. -- Kenny Pitt From rkorb at htrcpa.com Fri Jun 4 17:48:40 2004 From: rkorb at htrcpa.com (Robert Korb) Date: Fri Jun 4 17:52:31 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Difficulties starting Windows 2000 service Message-ID: <001801c44a7d$b32f85a0$0501a8c0@htrcpa.com> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative From cpace at hnsg.net Fri Jun 4 20:30:50 2004 From: cpace at hnsg.net (Christopher J. Pace) Date: Fri Jun 4 20:29:15 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Error(s) with MS Outlook 2002/xp on Windows XP Message-ID: <34954.192.168.0.23.1086395450.squirrel@192.168.0.23> Reguarding my previous post below: Figured out the problem, his profile in Windows XP was hammered. Copied data, deleted account, re-created account, and his Spam Bayes is fully functional. Thought I would end this, just in case anyone has this problem in the future. Thanks anyways! The previous post was: Hi list, I have a problem with one of my clients. The software installed basically is: Windows XP Pro (all updates) Office XP Pro (all current updates, including SP3) Spambayes latest binary for Win32 Basically, the client installed SpamBayes ok, no installation issues. However, when SpamBayes was configured, and shortly after, Outlook will no longer startup, giving an error with mso.dll at 0x000099A8. Client immediately uninstalled SpamBayes. Everything came out ok with the uninstall, no errors given. Outlook still does not work, throwing the above error. I repaired, reinstalled, and finally uninstalled, deleted mso.dll, then re-installed. Outlook still bails out on startup (but I can get in through Outlook safe mode). I confirmed that the install did create a mso.dll file, and it is the same size in bytes. I then got all the Office XP updates, still to no avail. No problems are encountered with any other Office products on the same machine, and I scanned for viruses as well, no luck. Has anyone encountered anything like this before? What is the reccomended fix? Thanks to all, and esp. to the SpamBayes devel team, for creating such a great anti-spam product that rocks. -- Christopher J. Pace System Administrator/Webmaster/Founder of HNSG http://hnsg.net ssh://request@hnsg.net System Administrator of http://seamlessvision.net From tpeters at mixcom.com Sat Jun 5 01:02:04 2004 From: tpeters at mixcom.com (Tom Peters) Date: Sat Jun 5 01:06:02 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes and GroupWise In-Reply-To: <83F5497995A8D511965F00508BB92970031D20BA@ddsexmb01.cahwnet .gov> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20040604235904.0b64eaf0@localhost> I suspect it will not work. Groupwise uses port 1677 or 1678 and the protocol it speaks is not POP3 or IMAP. That said, there are ways to route through an IMAP or POP3 gateway from GWise-- I think. You are probably running Gwise MTA, POA, and GWInter as NLM's on a Netware server, yes? You might need another box, running Win2000 or XP, to run SpamBayes on as a mail proxy. At 09:13 AM 6/4/2004 -0700, Mandel, Joel@DDS wrote: >Dear SpamBayes, >Will SpamBayes work on Windows desktops running GroupWise mail client? >TIA, >joel > >Joel Mandel >Department of Developmental Services >Centralized IT Services Branch >1600 Ninth Street, M.S. 2-7 >Sacramento, CA 95814 > >(916) 651-8767 (voice) >(916) 654-3352 (fax) >joel.mandel@dds.ca.gov >_______________________________________________ >Spambayes@python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes >Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html [Computing] "The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected" --UNIX Prg Man, 2nd ed, June 1972 --... ...-- -.. . -. ----. --.- --.- -... tpeters@nospam.mixcom.com (internet) remove "nospam." N9QQB (ham) "HEY YOU" (loud shouting) WEB ADDRESS http//www.mixweb.com/tpeters 43 7' 17.2" N, by 88? 6' 28.9" W, Elevation 815', Grid Square EN53wc WAN/LAN/Telcom Analyst, Tech Writer, MCP, Cisco Certified CCNA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040605/52204725/attachment.html From chris at wildcharacters.com Sat Jun 5 18:40:29 2004 From: chris at wildcharacters.com (Chris Hubbard) Date: Sat Jun 5 18:40:40 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes - immediate experience 5 stars Message-ID: All, I've just installed spambayes. I've been receiving up to 100 spams per day. I did no prep or customization to outlook 2000, and I did no customization to spambayes during installation. The results after a couple hours are best summarized: 'it works' So far it has caught every piece of spam, it's also caught two non-spam mailing list messages (an admin notice from 'mailman', and the OSDN Developer email). Congratulations on a brilliant job. thank you. Chris Hubbard chris@wildcharacters.com www.wildcharacters.com 425 481 2020 php based web application development [[ check out phalidate, a data validation class ]] Y! hoponpopontoponmoponcop@yahoo.com MSN another_ganesha@hotmail.com AIM ganeshacph From bu at budesigns.com Sat Jun 5 20:47:00 2004 From: bu at budesigns.com (bu@budesigns.com) Date: Sat Jun 5 20:47:01 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy: mail hits inbox before spambayes Message-ID: A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: SpamBayesServer1.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 183 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040606/696b6769/SpamBayesServer1.obj -------------- next part -------------- I am using SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 1.0rc1 (May 2004) (binary), with version 2.3.3 (#51, Feb 13 2004, 14:39:56) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] of Python; my operating system is Windows 4.90.73010104.1 ( ). I have trained 65 ham and 1405 spam. The problem I am having is I can't review any messages in spambayes until they're already downloaded to the inbox. Seems backwards. I may have confiured things wrong... Help? From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat Jun 5 21:18:20 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat Jun 5 21:20:23 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy: mail hits inbox beforespambayes In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306967B56@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677F0C@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > The problem I am having is I can't review any messages in spambayes > until they're already downloaded to the inbox. Seems backwards. I may > have confiured things wrong... No, that's correct. Why do you think it's backwards? =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From bu at budesigns.com Sat Jun 5 21:31:01 2004 From: bu at budesigns.com (ben ullman) Date: Sat Jun 5 21:30:24 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy: mail hits inbox beforespambayes References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677F0C@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <02f501c44b65$eee3c0a0$1202a8c0@verizon.net> "Why do you think it's backwards?" because isn't the point of this whole thing to keep the spam OUT of the inbox...? I have to download all 500 (for example) messages to the inbox. Then I can review with spambayes, train it with the 2 "real" messages of the lot and discard the others. Then I still have to go delete 498 messages from my inbox. It's twice the effort I used to go through. What's the point? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Meyer" To: ; "'SpamBayes Mailing List'" Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2004 9:18 PM Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy: mail hits inbox beforespambayes > > The problem I am having is I can't review any messages in spambayes > > until they're already downloaded to the inbox. Seems backwards. I may > > have confiured things wrong... > > No, that's correct. Why do you think it's backwards? > > =Tony Meyer > > --- > Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies > (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This > way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. > > > From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat Jun 5 21:42:13 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat Jun 5 21:44:04 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy: mail hits inbox beforespambayes In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306967B66@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C026E@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > because isn't the point of this whole thing to keep the spam > OUT of the inbox...? > I have to download all 500 (for example) messages to the > inbox. Then I can review with spambayes, train it with the 2 > "real" messages of the lot and discard the others. Then I still > have to go delete 498 messages from my inbox. It's twice the > effort I used to go through. What's the point? You seem to be confusing training and classifying. The work you do with the web interface is training spambayes, so that it knows what's good mail and what's bad. After some initial training, you really shouldn't have to do very much of this. It sounds like you're not using the SpamBayes classification at all. When mail goes through SpamBayes, it gets a classification header added to it that indicates whether SpamBayes thinks that it's good or bad, based on the training that you've done. You can then filter it out to wherever you like (a "junk" folder, for example). You might want to read the "read me" that comes with SpamBayes, the information on the website (the "non-technical handwaving answer" on the front page, and the "applications" page), and/or the FAQ. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From bu at budesigns.com Sat Jun 5 22:23:15 2004 From: bu at budesigns.com (ben ullman) Date: Sat Jun 5 22:22:40 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy: mail hits inbox beforespambayes References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C026E@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <02fc01c44b6d$3af6fc80$1202a8c0@verizon.net> right, I wasn't doing that yet. It does seem to be doing a good job identifying everything at this point. Guess it's time to start classifying & filtering. I did read that readme, guess I just didn't quite *get* it. thanks! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Meyer" To: "'ben ullman'" ; "'SpamBayes Mailing List'" Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2004 9:42 PM Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy: mail hits inbox beforespambayes > because isn't the point of this whole thing to keep the spam > OUT of the inbox...? > I have to download all 500 (for example) messages to the > inbox. Then I can review with spambayes, train it with the 2 > "real" messages of the lot and discard the others. Then I still > have to go delete 498 messages from my inbox. It's twice the > effort I used to go through. What's the point? You seem to be confusing training and classifying. The work you do with the web interface is training spambayes, so that it knows what's good mail and what's bad. After some initial training, you really shouldn't have to do very much of this. It sounds like you're not using the SpamBayes classification at all. When mail goes through SpamBayes, it gets a classification header added to it that indicates whether SpamBayes thinks that it's good or bad, based on the training that you've done. You can then filter it out to wherever you like (a "junk" folder, for example). You might want to read the "read me" that comes with SpamBayes, the information on the website (the "non-technical handwaving answer" on the front page, and the "applications" page), and/or the FAQ. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From smarr at comcast.net Sun Jun 6 18:41:38 2004 From: smarr at comcast.net (smarr@comcast.net) Date: Sun Jun 6 18:41:33 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Pegasus Message-ID: <40C35752.2691.112E50@localhost> How do you set Pegasus to retrieve pop mail from local host? From bill at lcagroup.com Sun Jun 6 19:29:43 2004 From: bill at lcagroup.com (Bill Lantz) Date: Sun Jun 6 19:28:46 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Locked range conflict Message-ID: Since I loaded Spambayes (which does a great job) my backup to external hard drive gives me error message and back up of "locked range conflict". Can you shed some light or what to do so I can back up. This only happens on Outlook. I run win 2000 and Outlook 2000. Bill Lantz bill@lcagroup.com 760-655-4040 760-655-4011 Fax From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Jun 6 20:12:48 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun Jun 6 20:14:45 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Pegasus In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306967C61@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677F0F@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > How do you set Pegasus to retrieve pop mail from local host? Tools->Internet Options->Receiving (POP3)->{click account to change}->Edit. Change "server host name" to "localhost". This is with Pegasus Mail v4; I don't know if it's the same as earlier/later versions, but it's probably similar. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tim.one at comcast.net Sun Jun 6 20:31:53 2004 From: tim.one at comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Sun Jun 6 20:32:01 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Locked range conflict In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [Bill Lantz] > Since I loaded Spambayes (which does a great job) my backup to external > hard drive gives me error message and back up of "locked range conflict". > Can you shed some light or what to do so I can back up. This only happens > on Outlook. I run win 2000 and Outlook 2000. Sorry, I really have no idea what this is about. You should probably ask your backup software vendor what that message means (it's not coming from SpamBayes), and how to work around it. The backup software I use on WinXP refuses to back up anything that's currently in use, so I close Outlook (and most everything else) before running a backup (and that has nothing to do with SpamBayes). From tim.one at comcast.net Sun Jun 6 20:52:09 2004 From: tim.one at comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Sun Jun 6 20:52:23 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Locked range conflict Message-ID: [Bill Lantz] >> Since I loaded Spambayes (which does a great job) my backup to external >> hard drive gives me error message and back up of "locked range >> conflict". Can you shed some light or what to do so I can back up. This >> only happens on Outlook. I run win 2000 and Outlook 2000. [Tim Peters] > Sorry, I really have no idea what this is about. ... Googling on "locked range conflict" suggests you're using an OEM version of Dantz Retrospect to do backups (perhaps one bundled with an external Maxtor drive?), and that you're not alone in getting this error when it tries to back up a .pst file. There's no reason to believe SpamBayes has anything to do with this. You should note that Outlook.exe sometimes keeps running even when you close Outlook! That keeps the .pst file(s) locked. There are many messages about that all over the web too, and Google will find them. Before I run backups, I always bring up Task Manager and kill Outlook.exe and Winword.exe if they're still running (they both are from time to time, and I can't predict under which conditions this occurs). From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Jun 6 22:20:39 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun Jun 6 22:22:36 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Moving database location ... question In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F130696760E@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677F11@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I have noticed that the database gets very large. Note that this depends a lot on the training that you do. If you "train on everything" you'll end up with a much bigger database than "train on mistakes" or "nonedge training" (and the results will probably be not as good, either). > We use roaming profiles and would like to move the > database to a location in the profile that is designated > as non-roaming. Is this possible? Yes. Instructions can be found by doing SpamBayes->Help->About SpamBayes->Configuration Guide. They're down the bottom under "multiple configuration files". Basically, create a file called "default_configuration.ini" in either the directory SpamBayes was installed into, or the current data directory, and put in it: [General] data_directory=drive:\path\to\new\location =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Jun 6 22:36:32 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun Jun 6 22:38:38 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Mail filteriing for 2nd e-mail account In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F130696760F@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677F12@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > However, my second account doesn't get filtered at all. All > messages for that account get moved to a special folder and > that folder is listed in the folders to filter messages in as > the arrive. Could you send us a log file for a period in which messages arrive and fail to be filtered? The troubleshooting guide and FAQ explain where to find the log files. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Jun 6 22:39:19 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun Jun 6 22:41:15 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Deleting a Message as Spam Takes a Long Time In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13069675B1@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677F13@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I've really liked using the SpamBayes system but have found > recently that deleting a message as spam takes 5-10 seconds. > Is this normal? My database has about 120 messages in it. Normal is tricky to define, but that does sound overly long. Recently a couple of people (including me) have hit a weird situation where suddenly any training takes a long time (with small databases). We haven't had a chance to really look into this in depth. Simply retraining from scratch fixes the problem, so it'd be worth trying this to see if it does. (You could just rename the database - while Outlook is closed - start up, see what the response is like, and if it doesn't improve, change the name back). > Also, when I make it so SpamBayes marks a message as read, > Outlook doesn't clear the envelope tray icon in the taskbar > telling me I have new mail. Is there any way to make the > tray icon go away when I get junk mail? Please see FAQ 3.8: =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Jun 6 22:46:58 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun Jun 6 22:49:36 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] website documentation error In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F130696756B@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677F14@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Rather than just changing the path in the documentation, I'd > put a note that the path depends on your Python installation, > and that you can refer to the output of "setup.py install" to > find the location. Done; thanks. =Tony Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Jun 6 22:50:37 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun Jun 6 22:52:35 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] spambayes just stopped working during training! In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13069674A4@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677F15@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I have just downloaded spambayes tonight (05/03/04) and > was doing the training (the one where everything goes > into the suspect folder) when spambayes toolbar delete > as spam mail button stopped working. I closed outlook > and reopened it and everything was fine for a few minutes. > I closed it again, reopened it and no such luck; it > (the button) will not work. Sorry about the slow response - we've all been pretty busy recently. I suspect that when you reopened Outlook, the toolbar buttons still wouldn't work - was that the case? It sounds most like a problem with the database, although it's hard to know for sure. What we need to see is a copy of your most recent log file. The troubleshooting guide explains where to find that. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Jun 6 22:55:38 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun Jun 6 22:57:33 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Difficulties starting Windows 2000 service In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13069678E1@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677F16@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Realizing that when I logged off so did the program, > I attempted to install it as a service using python > 2.3.3 and the "pop3proxy_service.py install", and to > start it with "net start pop3proxy". This resulted > in an "error 1069" which I believed had to do with a > logon failure. The service appears in the "services" > utility so I modified the properties to verify that the > logon was OK. Finally attempting to start it as a > normal Win2k service it appears to be starting but > then returns the error message: > > " Could not start Spambayes service on local computer. > The service did not return an error. > This could be an internal windows problem or an internal > service error." I wonder if maybe the service didn't get installed properly? If you remove it (pop3proxy_service.py remove) and then reinstall it, do you still get the 1069 error? What properties did you have to change in the control panel? Does a log get created for the service? If not, then it's more than likely to be a problem with the service installation I think, because the log is created very early. The log would be called "SpamBayesService1.log" and be in your temp directory (C:\Documents and Settings\{username}\Local Settings\Temp in XP; I can't recall where it is in 2k). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Jun 6 22:58:20 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun Jun 6 23:00:23 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] trained with smtp proxy In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13069677BD@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677F17@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > We try to connect to Spambayes with > telnet to send a message and receive almost every time a 550 > unkown user when we send a RCPT TO:useraddres. What happens if you directly connect to the SMTP server and do this? Does it work? What's an example address that it fails with? > Is it a known problem with our version ? It doesn't ring a bell, although I'd have to check to be sure. Note that you can view the "What's New" or "Changelog" files for each release, which detail (basically) everything that has been fixed. > If we had to install the new > release 1.0rc1, how must we do it to not loose all our > parameters and training database ? Just install over the top - the uninstall/install process doesn't touch the data files. (They are probably called hammie.db and spambayes.messageinfo.db if you want to back them up). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Jun 6 23:00:07 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun Jun 6 23:01:57 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Proxy Server Hangs up IE In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306967254@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677F18@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > That having been said it has been working fine > since you e-mailed me and I have not had it "lock up" my > machine since. I guess shutting down and restarting it > enough times as well as going from my Work to Home Hardware > profile changed something (which I must say I don't like the > sound of). Well, there's not much that can be done if it's working properly, so hopefully it'll remain that way. Nothing changes by simply starting up and shutting down, so perhaps it was just some unrelated problem that settled down. Let us know if you have any problems in future. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Jun 6 23:02:16 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun Jun 6 23:04:13 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Delete As Spam - Doesn't always work In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306967135@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677F19@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I too am seeing this behavior - on about 1% of spam (I get 2 > or 3 messages a day that won't delete as spam). I am using Outlook > 2002 SP3 on XP Pro SP1, SpamBayes 1.0b1 > > log file indicates: [...] > File "spambayes\storage.pyc", line 261, in _wordinfoget > File "shelve.pyc", line 111, in get > File "shelve.pyc", line 119, in __getitem__ > exceptions.ValueError: could not convert string to int To me this says "corrupt database". Given that it hardly takes any time for SpamBayes to be trained enough to be accurate, I'd recommend retraining from scratch as the best solution. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Jun 6 23:06:35 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun Jun 6 23:09:12 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Cannot Install Multiple Users Win XP Pro, Outlook 2003, SpamBayes 1.0rc1 In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306966F81@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677F1A@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > SpamBayes installed ok for user with Admin privileges -- > shows in COM Addins list, shows enabled, appears to run OK. > > Multiple attempts to install for Non-Admin "Restricted" user > -- Installation aborts and does rollback because unable to > write to ...\Program Files\SpamBayes\... > > Attempt to run outlook_addin_register.exe has no effect when > run _by_ the non-privileged user, even if run _as_ the > privileged user. > > How _do_ I install for non-privileged users? Do you want to install it (i.e. write all the stuff that normally goes into \Program Files\SpamBayes) or just register it? (The former would be if it's not already installed on the machine and the only user available is non-Admin, the latter would be if it's already installed and you want to let other users use it). If it's installing, then you just need to change the path to install into to somewhere that the user does have access to. If it's registering, then you can register SpamBayes for all users. Instructions for doing this can be found in the troubleshooting guide (the online version; the local one with 1.0rc1 has a mistake). Basically you run the application "outlook_addin_register" (in the \Program Files\SpamBayes\bin directory) with the parameter "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE". =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From uwe.werner at axelspringer.de Mon Jun 7 03:09:09 2004 From: uwe.werner at axelspringer.de (Werner, Uwe) Date: Mon Jun 7 03:09:21 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with other mailboxes using Outlook Message-ID: Hi there and thanks for providing this great software. We have a problem, though, with Outlook when working with more than one mail account. Example: I log in as "MarkO" but open/link to "DesireeC" as a second mailbox because this colleague is on holiday and I have to check her mail as well. SpamBayes empties the second mailbox as well and drops everything in MY Junk Suspects folder. This makes it impossible to use your software with Outlook in our configuration which is sad enough. It would be wonderful if there was a way to get rid of this problem so please answer as soon as you can. Yours sincerely, Uwe Werner -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I think that this may have something to do with the Cached Exchange Mode that I am using, which will start up in an offline mode, before finding and connecting to the Exchange server and synchronising the online and offline copies of my mailbox. I suspect that the filtering may be taking place before this synchronisation has completed. I tried setting the Processing Start Delay to 5 seconds (I had it at 0) but this did not seem to make any difference. Once the synchronisation has completed I am able to manually trigger the filtering but would really like to make it automatic. At morning start-up (when there might be several hundred new messages) is the only time the filtering fails. It works as expected for the rest of the day. Regards. -- Steve Crane http://craniac.afraid.org From froz at itv.com Mon Jun 7 04:12:52 2004 From: froz at itv.com (Frosdick, Paul) Date: Mon Jun 7 04:13:31 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Folder selection problems.. Message-ID: <5634E0C8DA3B9F4F8E6BA5780F2B69B812CBDA@nor_email1.granadamedia.com> Great stuff, you've managed to replicate the problem. Is the new release on the horizon? Cheers Froz [Tony Meyer] > Unfortunately, I don't have access to more than one Exchange > account, so it's hard to test things out here. I'll try and > convince a colleague to give me temporary access to their > account tomorrow, so maybe I'll be able to figure out more then. I did this, and was easily able to duplicate the problem. It seems that additional Exchange accounts don't have quite the same hierarchy as post files or the main Exchange account. I've checked in a fix (it all works here with multiple Exchange accounts after the fix) so it should be fixed in the next release (1.0rc2 or 1.0). Until then, from my testing it appears that you can select folders on the other Exchange account, just not the ones at the top, so you could insert a dummy folder at the top and move everything into it, and filter it then. Ugly, but it would work, and since it's moving within a store all the rules etc should still work. Hopefully a new release isn't that far off, though. (Something like this: Aaron Inbox Info Dummy Inbox Other ) =Tony Meyer ********************************************************************** Please visit the official ITV website at www.itv.com for the latest company news. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify postmaster@itv.com Thank you. ********************************************************************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This is supported (more or less) by the fact that it seems to happen only when there are a relatively large number of messages to scan (making it more likely that the triggering conditions would occur). I'm using Windows XP SP1, but the same problem occurred, with about the same frequency, when I was still using Windows 2000 SP4. I think, although I'm not prepared to swear it, that I've seen the problem even when Exchange is not involved, i.e. when downloading mail to my laptop from a POP3 proxy on my home computer. Bob MIS Department, City of Cambridge 831 Massachusetts Ave, Cambridge MA 02139 ? 617-349-4217 ? fax 617-349-6165 > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces@python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of Steve Crane > Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 3:33 AM > To: spambayes@python.org > Subject: [Spambayes] Filtering with Outlook 2003 > > > Hi, > > I have been using SpamBayes for quite a while now and have been very > happy with it under Outlook XP. I recently upgraded to Outlook 2003 and > now have a small issue with SpamBayes, which I am using in favour of the > built-in spam filter. > > I find that when I first start Outlook in the morning SpamBayes does not > automatically filter my inbox. It sometimes filters a few new messages, > sometimes none, but invariably leaves a large number of new messages > unfiltered. I think that this may have something to do with the Cached > Exchange Mode that I am using, which will start up in an offline mode, > before finding and connecting to the Exchange server and synchronising > the online and offline copies of my mailbox. I suspect that the > filtering may be taking place before this synchronisation has completed. > I tried setting the Processing Start Delay to 5 seconds (I had it at 0) > but this did not seem to make any difference. Once the synchronisation > has completed I am able to manually trigger the filtering but would > really like to make it automatic. At morning start-up (when there might > be several hundred new messages) is the only time the filtering fails. > It works as expected for the rest of the day. > > Regards. > > -- > Steve Crane > http://craniac.afraid.org From Joerg.Wanke at ProSoft.de Mon Jun 7 09:32:26 2004 From: Joerg.Wanke at ProSoft.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg_Wanke?=) Date: Mon Jun 7 09:34:21 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] =?iso-8859-1?q?Addin_doesn=B4t_load_for_normal_users?= Message-ID: <80D9B735634ED84188D64C4DFB351BAC127C27@pro012.prosoft.de> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: spambayes1.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 401 bytes Desc: spambayes1.log Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040607/6092a23f/spambayes1.obj From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Mon Jun 7 09:41:07 2004 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Mon Jun 7 09:41:12 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] =?iso-8859-1?q?RE=3A_Addin_doesn=B4t_load_for_normal?= =?iso-8859-1?q?_users?= Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5022CB56@SPIKE.city> If I understand correctly (and I admit that I may not), installing Spambayes for the first user of the computer will require administrative rights on the computer. But activating it for subsequent users should not, because all you're doing is writing some stuff into the user's own Registry. Bob -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of J?rg Wanke Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 9:32 AM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Addin doesn?t load for normal users Hi, I simply can?t get the addin loaded for a normal user with just user rights. I?ve also tried to use regsvr32.exe but this didn?t help either. Doing all the same under admin works perfect. Is SpamBayes addin only working under accounts with admin or system rights? Wonder if someone could help, as this tool works really perfect for me when logged on with admin rights. Best regards, Jorg Wanke System: Windows 2000 pro Outlook: 2000 with SR-1 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040607/499956b4/attachment.html From tim.one at comcast.net Mon Jun 7 10:02:26 2004 From: tim.one at comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Mon Jun 7 10:02:39 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: Filtering with Outlook 2003 In-Reply-To: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5022C2C3@SPIKE.city> Message-ID: [Coe, Bob] ... > This is supported (more or less) by the fact that it seems to happen > only when there are a relatively large number of messages to scan [Steve Crane] ... >> At morning start-up (when there might be several hundred new messages) >> is the only time the filtering fails. The Outlook addin relies on Outlook to tell it when new messages have arrived. Unfortunately, this part of Outlook fails under load: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=249156 Whole the article there only mentions OL2000, ItemAdd isn't more reliable in OL2002 or OL2003. The article also suggests that it's limited to interaction with Exchange Server (under "Cause"), but that's not so either; as it says in "More Information", it doesn't really matter what the source of "the number of items necessary to reproduce this problem varies depending on the size of the items". From Markus.Wollny at computec.de Mon Jun 7 10:47:18 2004 From: Markus.Wollny at computec.de (Markus Wollny) Date: Mon Jun 7 10:49:57 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Outlook Plug-In doesn't move SPAM Message-ID: <2266D0630E43BB4290742247C89105750578214F@dozer.computec.de> Hi! I'm experiencing difficulties in using the SpamBayes Outlook PlugIn with Outlook XP 2003. After having installed and trained the PlugIn, I can move SPAM-messages from my Inbox to the SPAM-folder using the "Delete as Spam"-button, but the spam is never moved automatically nor marked as unread. The PlugIn is configured to consider a message as certain spam when the score is 90% or higher. And when I use "Show spam clues for current message" on the unmoved spam, it does score as high as 100% - but still, it remains in my Inbox and isn't moved. The Plugin is enabled of course, and reinstalling it several times didn't help. When trying to explicitly start the filtering process via "Filter messages", "Perform all filter actions" active, "Restrict the filter to unread mail" active, Inbox (amongst other folders) selected and clicking the "Start Filtering"-button, the progress bar is moving, thus indicating some processing, but the unread SPAM-messages remain in my Inbox-folder, none of them being moved to the Spam-folder configured in the SpamBayes-Manager. This way, SpamBayes is unfortunately quite useless. The PlugIn worked with Outlook 2000 on another PC, but I cannot downgrade back to the old version. The PlugIn version is 1.0rc1. I attached the spam-clues for one of the messages below; I deleted the original message however, as there was an attachment and I don't want to distribute any worms. Kind regards Markus Wollny Combined Score: 100% (1) Internal ham score (*H*): 9.26841e-011 Internal spam score (*S*): 1 # ham trained on: 379 # spam trained on: 533 23 Significant Tokens token spamprob #ham #spam 'sich' 0.275957 116 62 'mail' 0.612136 13 29 'to:no real name:2**0' 0.631057 187 450 'weitere' 0.680355 42 126 'skip:i 10' 0.767341 43 200 'header:Received:2' 0.885326 25 273 'header:Return-Path:1' 0.886118 45 494 'header:Date:1' 0.892662 45 528 'header:From:1' 0.893024 45 530 'to:addr:computec.de' 0.896937 26 320 'from:no real name:2**0' 0.903079 20 264 'to:addr:mailing-boxes' 0.908163 0 2 'header:Message-ID:1' 0.913609 33 493 'anhang' 0.917641 1 18 'header:MIME-Version:1' 0.931739 26 502 'header:Importance:1' 0.953092 8 233 'bestellungs' 0.973373 0 8 'from:addr:hilfe' 0.973373 0 8 'best\xe4tigung' 0.97619 0 9 'subject:Bestellungs' 0.97619 0 9 'befinden' 0.987106 0 17 'subject:Best\xe4tigung' 0.987106 0 17 'subjectcharset:windows-1252' 0.99545 0 49 Message Stream X-MS-Mail-Gibberish: Microsoft Mail Internet Headers Version 2.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6487.1 Received: from relay.ip-exchange.de ([212.123.100.98]) by dozer.computec.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 7 Jun 2004 16:19:31 +0200 Received: from hilfe.com (chello080108133164.2.12.vie.surfer.at [80.108.133.164]) by relay.ip-exchange.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 3D5C5467211; Mon, 7 Jun 2004 16:21:38 +0200 (CEST) From: To: Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 14:17:33 GMT Subject: =?Windows-1252?Q?Bestellungs_Best=E4tigung?= Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Message-ID: <89e40d4cc892ef.858a3.qmail@info.eggenburg.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=====b8b3c03fc.6cdcd8ab" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-Path: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jun 2004 14:19:31.0227 (UTC) FILETIME=[730F3EB0:01C44C9A] Weitere Informationen befinden sich im Anhang dieser Mail Bestellungs Best?tigung

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All Message Tokens 36 unique tokens 'anhang' 'befinden' 'bestellungs' 'best\xe4tigung' 'cc:none' 'content-type:text/plain' 'dieser' 'from:addr:hilfe' 'from:addr:info.eggenburg.com' 'from:no real name:2**0' 'header:Date:1' 'header:From:1' 'header:Importance:1' 'header:MIME-Version:1' 'header:Message-ID:1' 'header:Received:2' 'header:Return-Path:1' 'header:Subject:1' 'header:To:1' 'mail' 'message-id:@info.eggenburg.com' 'reply-to:none' 'sender:none' 'sich' 'skip:i 10' 'subject: ' 'subject:Bestellungs' 'subject:Best\xe4tigung' 'subject:\xe4' 'subjectcharset:windows-1252' 'to:2**0' 'to:addr:computec.de' 'to:addr:mailing-boxes' 'to:no real name:2**0' 'weitere' 'x-mailer:none' From Markus.Wollny at computec.de Mon Jun 7 10:51:13 2004 From: Markus.Wollny at computec.de (Markus Wollny) Date: Mon Jun 7 10:53:54 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] AW: SpamBayes Outlook Plug-In doesn't move SPAM Message-ID: <2266D0630E43BB4290742247C891057505782152@dozer.computec.de> Sorry, I forgot to post the logfile; here goes: Loaded bayes database from 'J:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Markus.Wollny\Anwendungsdaten\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db' Loaded message database from 'J:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Markus.Wollny\Anwendungsdaten\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db' Bayes database initialized with 112 spam and 136 good messages SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0rc1 (May 2004) starting (with engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004)) on Windows 5.1.2600 (Service Pack 1) using Python 2.3.3 (#51, Feb 13 2004, 14:39:56) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - Markus Wollny/IPM_SUBTREE/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Mailbox - Markus Wollny/IPM_SUBTREE/Inbox/Schrott' Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer FAILED to add the toolbar item 'SpamBayesCommand.Manager' - (-2147352567, 'Ausnahmefehler aufgetreten.', (0, None, None, None, 0, -2147467259), None) The above toolbar message is common - recreating the toolbar... Traceback (most recent call last): File "addin.pyc", line 359, in _TimerFunc File "msgstore.pyc", line 616, in GetNewUnscoredMessageGenerator pywintypes.com_error: (-2147219968, 'OLE error 0x80040600', None, None) Traceback (most recent call last): File "addin.pyc", line 359, in _TimerFunc File "msgstore.pyc", line 616, in GetNewUnscoredMessageGenerator pywintypes.com_error: (-2147219968, 'OLE error 0x80040600', None, None) Checked 347 in folder Keep - 347 new entries found. Checked 32 in folder SPAM - 32 new entries found. Checked 523 in folder Schrott - 513 new entries found. Checked 16 in folder Junk-E-Mail - 16 new entries found. Loaded bayes database from 'J:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Markus.Wollny\Anwendungsdaten\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db' Loaded message database from 'J:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Markus.Wollny\Anwendungsdaten\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db' Bayes database initialized with 529 spam and 379 good messages Ignoring OnCommand for IDC_START Ignoring OnCommand for IDC_START Ignoring OnCommand for IDC_START Saving configuration -> J:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Markus.Wollny\Anwendungsdaten\SpamBayes\Outlook.ini SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - Markus Wollny/IPM_SUBTREE/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Mailbox - Markus Wollny/IPM_SUBTREE/Inbox/Schrott' Traceback (most recent call last): File "addin.pyc", line 359, in _TimerFunc File "msgstore.pyc", line 616, in GetNewUnscoredMessageGenerator pywintypes.com_error: (-2147219968, 'OLE error 0x80040600', None, None) Traceback (most recent call last): File "addin.pyc", line 359, in _TimerFunc File "msgstore.pyc", line 616, in GetNewUnscoredMessageGenerator pywintypes.com_error: (-2147219968, 'OLE error 0x80040600', None, None) Traceback (most recent call last): File "addin.pyc", line 359, in _TimerFunc File "msgstore.pyc", line 616, in GetNewUnscoredMessageGenerator pywintypes.com_error: (-2147219968, 'OLE error 0x80040600', None, None) Moving and spam training message 'FwD: Ok, hier ist mein Foto' - Training on message 'FwD: Ok, hier ist mein Foto' in 'Mailbox - Markus Wollny/IPM_SUBTREE/Inbox - trained as spam Traceback (most recent call last): File "addin.pyc", line 359, in _TimerFunc File "msgstore.pyc", line 616, in GetNewUnscoredMessageGenerator pywintypes.com_error: (-2147219968, 'OLE error 0x80040600', None, None) Traceback (most recent call last): File "addin.pyc", line 359, in _TimerFunc File "msgstore.pyc", line 616, in GetNewUnscoredMessageGenerator pywintypes.com_error: (-2147219968, 'OLE error 0x80040600', None, None) Traceback (most recent call last): File "addin.pyc", line 359, in _TimerFunc File "msgstore.pyc", line 616, in GetNewUnscoredMessageGenerator pywintypes.com_error: (-2147219968, 'OLE error 0x80040600', None, None) Moving and spam training message 'FwD: Schon geh?rt?' - Training on message 'FwD: Schon geh?rt?' in 'Mailbox - Markus Wollny/IPM_SUBTREE/Inbox - trained as spam Moving and spam training message 'Rechnung' - Training on message 'Rechnung' in 'Mailbox - Markus Wollny/IPM_SUBTREE/Inbox - trained as spam Moving and spam training message 'FwD: Die Tools!' - Training on message 'FwD: Die Tools!' in 'Mailbox - Markus Wollny/IPM_SUBTREE/Inbox - trained as spam Traceback (most recent call last): File "addin.pyc", line 359, in _TimerFunc File "msgstore.pyc", line 616, in GetNewUnscoredMessageGenerator pywintypes.com_error: (-2147219968, 'OLE error 0x80040600', None, None) Traceback (most recent call last): File "addin.pyc", line 359, in _TimerFunc File "msgstore.pyc", line 616, in GetNewUnscoredMessageGenerator pywintypes.com_error: (-2147219968, 'OLE error 0x80040600', None, None) Traceback (most recent call last): File "addin.pyc", line 359, in _TimerFunc File "msgstore.pyc", line 616, in GetNewUnscoredMessageGenerator pywintypes.com_error: (-2147219968, 'OLE error 0x80040600', None, None) Saving configuration -> J:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Markus.Wollny\Anwendungsdaten\SpamBayes\Outlook.ini SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - Markus Wollny/IPM_SUBTREE/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Mailbox - Markus Wollny/IPM_SUBTREE/Inbox/Schrott' Saving configuration -> J:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Markus.Wollny\Anwendungsdaten\SpamBayes\Outlook.ini SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - Markus Wollny/IPM_SUBTREE/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Mailbox - Markus Wollny/IPM_SUBTREE/Inbox/Schrott' Traceback (most recent call last): File "addin.pyc", line 359, in _TimerFunc File "msgstore.pyc", line 616, in GetNewUnscoredMessageGenerator pywintypes.com_error: (-2147219968, 'OLE error 0x80040600', None, None) Traceback (most recent call last): File "addin.pyc", line 359, in _TimerFunc File "msgstore.pyc", line 616, in GetNewUnscoredMessageGenerator pywintypes.com_error: (-2147219968, 'OLE error 0x80040600', None, None) Saving configuration -> J:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Markus.Wollny\Anwendungsdaten\SpamBayes\Outlook.ini J:\Programme\SpamBayes\lib\spambayes.zip\msgstore.py:126: FutureWarning: %u/%o/%x/%X of negative int will return a signed string in Python 2.4 and up Exception in thread Thread-2: Traceback (most recent call last): File "threading.pyc", line 436, in __bootstrap File "threading.pyc", line 416, in run File "dialogs\async_processor.pyc", line 226, in thread_target File "filter.pyc", line 154, in filterer File "filter.pyc", line 124, in filter_folder File "msgstore.pyc", line 1119, in GetReadState File "msgstore.pyc", line 1099, in GetField File "msgstore.pyc", line 975, in _EnsureObject MsgStoreException: MsgStoreException: Exception 0x80040107 (MAPI_E_INVALID_ENTRYID): OLE error 0x80040107 Saving configuration -> J:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Markus.Wollny\Anwendungsdaten\SpamBayes\Outlook.ini Saving configuration -> J:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Markus.Wollny\Anwendungsdaten\SpamBayes\Outlook.ini Saving configuration -> J:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Markus.Wollny\Anwendungsdaten\SpamBayes\Outlook.ini SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - Markus Wollny/IPM_SUBTREE/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Mailbox - Markus Wollny/IPM_SUBTREE/Inbox/Schrott' Saving configuration -> J:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Markus.Wollny\Anwendungsdaten\SpamBayes\Outlook.ini SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - Markus Wollny/IPM_SUBTREE/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Mailbox - Markus Wollny/IPM_SUBTREE/Inbox/Schrott' Traceback (most recent call last): File "addin.pyc", line 359, in _TimerFunc File "msgstore.pyc", line 616, in GetNewUnscoredMessageGenerator pywintypes.com_error: (-2147219968, 'OLE error 0x80040600', None, None) Traceback (most recent call last): File "addin.pyc", line 359, in _TimerFunc File "msgstore.pyc", line 616, in GetNewUnscoredMessageGenerator pywintypes.com_error: (-2147219968, 'OLE error 0x80040600', None, None) Saving configuration -> J:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Markus.Wollny\Anwendungsdaten\SpamBayes\Outlook.ini Saving configuration -> J:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Markus.Wollny\Anwendungsdaten\SpamBayes\Outlook.ini Traceback (most recent call last): File "addin.pyc", line 359, in _TimerFunc File "msgstore.pyc", line 616, in GetNewUnscoredMessageGenerator pywintypes.com_error: (-2147219968, 'OLE error 0x80040600', None, None) Saving configuration -> J:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Markus.Wollny\Anwendungsdaten\SpamBayes\Outlook.ini SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - Markus Wollny/IPM_SUBTREE/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Mailbox - Markus Wollny/IPM_SUBTREE/Inbox/Schrott' Exception in thread Thread-3: Traceback (most recent call last): File "threading.pyc", line 436, in __bootstrap File "threading.pyc", line 416, in run File "dialogs\async_processor.pyc", line 226, in thread_target File "filter.pyc", line 154, in filterer File "filter.pyc", line 124, in filter_folder File "msgstore.pyc", line 1119, in GetReadState File "msgstore.pyc", line 1099, in GetField File "msgstore.pyc", line 975, in _EnsureObject MsgStoreException: MsgStoreException: Exception 0x80040107 (MAPI_E_INVALID_ENTRYID): OLE error 0x80040107 Saving configuration -> J:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Markus.Wollny\Anwendungsdaten\SpamBayes\Outlook.ini Traceback (most recent call last): File "addin.pyc", line 359, in _TimerFunc File "msgstore.pyc", line 616, in GetNewUnscoredMessageGenerator pywintypes.com_error: (-2147219968, 'OLE error 0x80040600', None, None) Moving and spam training message 'FwD: Mail_Fehler' - Training on message 'FwD: Mail_Fehler' in 'Mailbox - Markus Wollny/IPM_SUBTREE/Inbox - trained as spam Moving and spam training message 'notification' - Training on message 'notification' in 'Mailbox - Markus Wollny/IPM_SUBTREE/Inbox - trained as spam Moving and spam training message 'McAfee GroupShield Warnung ' - Training on message 'McAfee GroupShield Warnung ' in 'Mailbox - Markus Wollny/IPM_SUBTREE/Inbox - trained as spam Moving and spam training message 'MCAFEE E-MAIL-SCAN-WARNUNG!~FWD: FALSCHE MAILZUSTELLUNG (1852)' - Training on message 'MCAFEE E-MAIL-SCAN-WARNUNG!~FWD: FALSCHE MAILZUSTELLUNG (1852)' in 'Mailbox - Markus Wollny/IPM_SUBTREE/Inbox - trained as spam Moving and spam training message 'Lieferungs-Best?tigung' - Training on message 'Lieferungs-Best?tigung' in 'Mailbox - Markus Wollny/IPM_SUBTREE/Inbox - trained as spam Traceback (most recent call last): File "addin.pyc", line 359, in _TimerFunc File "msgstore.pyc", line 616, in GetNewUnscoredMessageGenerator pywintypes.com_error: (-2147219968, 'OLE error 0x80040600', None, None) -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Markus Wollny Gesendet: Montag, 7. Juni 2004 16:47 An: 'spambayes@python.org' Betreff: SpamBayes Outlook Plug-In doesn't move SPAM Hi! I'm experiencing difficulties in using the SpamBayes Outlook PlugIn with Outlook XP 2003. After having installed and trained the PlugIn, I can move SPAM-messages from my Inbox to the SPAM-folder using the "Delete as Spam"-button, but the spam is never moved automatically nor marked as unread. The PlugIn is configured to consider a message as certain spam when the score is 90% or higher. And when I use "Show spam clues for current message" on the unmoved spam, it does score as high as 100% - but still, it remains in my Inbox and isn't moved. The Plugin is enabled of course, and reinstalling it several times didn't help. When trying to explicitly start the filtering process via "Filter messages", "Perform all filter actions" active, "Restrict the filter to unread mail" active, Inbox (amongst other folders) selected and clicking the "Start Filtering"-button, the progress bar is moving, thus indicating some processing, but the unread SPAM-messages remain in my Inbox-folder, none of them being moved to the Spam-folder configured in the SpamBayes-Manager. This way, SpamBayes is unfortunately quite useless. The PlugIn worked with Outlook 2000 on another PC, but I cannot downgrade back to the old version. The PlugIn version is 1.0rc1. I attached the spam-clues for one of the messages below; I deleted the original message however, as there was an attachment and I don't want to distribute any worms. Kind regards Markus Wollny Combined Score: 100% (1) Internal ham score (*H*): 9.26841e-011 Internal spam score (*S*): 1 # ham trained on: 379 # spam trained on: 533 23 Significant Tokens token spamprob #ham #spam 'sich' 0.275957 116 62 'mail' 0.612136 13 29 'to:no real name:2**0' 0.631057 187 450 'weitere' 0.680355 42 126 'skip:i 10' 0.767341 43 200 'header:Received:2' 0.885326 25 273 'header:Return-Path:1' 0.886118 45 494 'header:Date:1' 0.892662 45 528 'header:From:1' 0.893024 45 530 'to:addr:computec.de' 0.896937 26 320 'from:no real name:2**0' 0.903079 20 264 'to:addr:mailing-boxes' 0.908163 0 2 'header:Message-ID:1' 0.913609 33 493 'anhang' 0.917641 1 18 'header:MIME-Version:1' 0.931739 26 502 'header:Importance:1' 0.953092 8 233 'bestellungs' 0.973373 0 8 'from:addr:hilfe' 0.973373 0 8 'best\xe4tigung' 0.97619 0 9 'subject:Bestellungs' 0.97619 0 9 'befinden' 0.987106 0 17 'subject:Best\xe4tigung' 0.987106 0 17 'subjectcharset:windows-1252' 0.99545 0 49 Message Stream X-MS-Mail-Gibberish: Microsoft Mail Internet Headers Version 2.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6487.1 Received: from relay.ip-exchange.de ([212.123.100.98]) by dozer.computec.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 7 Jun 2004 16:19:31 +0200 Received: from hilfe.com (chello080108133164.2.12.vie.surfer.at [80.108.133.164]) by relay.ip-exchange.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 3D5C5467211; Mon, 7 Jun 2004 16:21:38 +0200 (CEST) From: To: Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 14:17:33 GMT Subject: =?Windows-1252?Q?Bestellungs_Best=E4tigung?= Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Message-ID: <89e40d4cc892ef.858a3.qmail@info.eggenburg.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=====b8b3c03fc.6cdcd8ab" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-Path: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jun 2004 14:19:31.0227 (UTC) FILETIME=[730F3EB0:01C44C9A] Weitere Informationen befinden sich im Anhang dieser Mail Bestellungs Best?tigung

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All Message Tokens 36 unique tokens 'anhang' 'befinden' 'bestellungs' 'best\xe4tigung' 'cc:none' 'content-type:text/plain' 'dieser' 'from:addr:hilfe' 'from:addr:info.eggenburg.com' 'from:no real name:2**0' 'header:Date:1' 'header:From:1' 'header:Importance:1' 'header:MIME-Version:1' 'header:Message-ID:1' 'header:Received:2' 'header:Return-Path:1' 'header:Subject:1' 'header:To:1' 'mail' 'message-id:@info.eggenburg.com' 'reply-to:none' 'sender:none' 'sich' 'skip:i 10' 'subject: ' 'subject:Bestellungs' 'subject:Best\xe4tigung' 'subject:\xe4' 'subjectcharset:windows-1252' 'to:2**0' 'to:addr:computec.de' 'to:addr:mailing-boxes' 'to:no real name:2**0' 'weitere' 'x-mailer:none' From co at ogprint.com Mon Jun 7 11:07:18 2004 From: co at ogprint.com (Ogilvie Printing Ltd.) Date: Mon Jun 7 11:22:15 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes & Thunderbird Message-ID: <40C484A6.5090605@ogprint.com> Can Spambayes be configured to work with Thunderbird or Outlook Express? Thanks craig From papaDoc at videotron.ca Mon Jun 7 11:27:50 2004 From: papaDoc at videotron.ca (papaDoc) Date: Mon Jun 7 11:27:59 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes & Thunderbird In-Reply-To: <40C484A6.5090605@ogprint.com> References: <40C484A6.5090605@ogprint.com> Message-ID: <40C48976.2000809@videotron.ca> Hi, > Can Spambayes be configured to work with Thunderbird or Outlook Express? Yes for both, See: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#does-spambayes-work-with-outlook-express Remi -- /"\ \ / X ASCII Ribbon Campaign / \ Against HTML Email From Amir_Katz at bmc.com Mon Jun 7 11:30:14 2004 From: Amir_Katz at bmc.com (Katz, Amir) Date: Mon Jun 7 11:30:29 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes & Thunderbird Message-ID: Yes it can, if they are using POP3 protocol to retrieve e-mail from your ISP. You need to install the Proxy version of SpamBayes and then configure your mail clients (Thunderbird and/or OE) to retrieve the mail from the proxy instead of the POP3 server at your ISP. The FAQ covers it (or so I hope :-) Amir -----Original Message----- From: Ogilvie Printing Ltd. [mailto:co@ogprint.com] Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 18:07 To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes & Thunderbird Can Spambayes be configured to work with Thunderbird or Outlook Express? Thanks craig _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From Richard.Kowis at chron.com Mon Jun 7 12:53:55 2004 From: Richard.Kowis at chron.com (Kowis, Richard) Date: Mon Jun 7 12:53:59 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Toool Bar will not show up. Message-ID: <81970F00745EB648846D656B58CC48A5A594@MAIL1.HCHRON.COM> One on my users had SpamBayes installed on a NT box and recently got a New XP machine. We installed SpamBaye on the xp machine but the tool bars does not show up when she is logged on. When I log on, it appears. I cannot find anything in the trouble shooting guide regarding this problem Richard Kowis Systems Implementor II 713-362-7941 fax:713-354-3187 ====================================================== This e-mail message is intended only for the personal use of the recipients(s) named above. If you are not an intended recipient, you may not review, copy or distribute this message. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the Houston Chronicle Postmaster (postmaster@chron.com) immediately by e-mail and delete the original message. ====================================================== From N.F.Brooks at exeter.ac.uk Mon Jun 7 13:22:57 2004 From: N.F.Brooks at exeter.ac.uk (Neil Brooks) Date: Mon Jun 7 13:22:58 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] 1.0rc1:sb_imapfilter fails after install over b1 Message-ID: I have been running b1 quite happily but after installing rc1 on top of b1, I get an exception as shown below. It also fails to import msginfoDB when starting filtering mode. This is running on W2K with Python 2.3.3 C:\Python23\Scripts>..\python sb_imapfilter.py -b Traceback (most recent call last): File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 121, in ? from spambayes.UserInterface import UserInterfaceServer File "c:\python23\lib\site-packages\spambayes\UserInterface.py", line 89, in ? from spambayes import Stats File "C:\Python23\lib\site-packages\spambayes\Stats.py", line 34, in ? from spambayes.message import msginfoDB ImportError: cannot import name msginfoDB Any suggestions? -- Neil Brooks Small Systems Team Leader IT Services University of Exeter Tel: +44 (0)1392 26 3923 From RHONDAHA at grsnet.com Mon Jun 7 13:31:01 2004 From: RHONDAHA at grsnet.com (Hart, Rhonda) Date: Mon Jun 7 13:24:10 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] problem Message-ID: <6127BD76341ED1119CD200805F6D18B8020690ED@ftlserver1> I accidentally deleted my "Identified as Spam" folder. I tried just recreating a folder of the same name, but now the spam messages are going to some unknown place, and not that folder. That is, I get a message when mail comes in, but then I can't find where the message was put. What do you recommend I do? Thanks Rhonda Hart Senior Analyst GRS & Company (954) 527-1616 FAX 525-0083 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040607/5cdf1bc3/attachment.html From ari_sternberg at hotmail.com Mon Jun 7 14:04:59 2004 From: ari_sternberg at hotmail.com (Ari Sternberg) Date: Mon Jun 7 14:06:49 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Contacts Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040607/8baa0e64/attachment.html From laron at telonics.com Mon Jun 7 14:53:24 2004 From: laron at telonics.com (Laron Swapp) Date: Mon Jun 7 14:52:42 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] FAQ 3.8: Envelope Tray Icon In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677F13@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: Thanks for the response. It seems like Outlook "figures out" that it needs to clear the tray icon after a while. More specifically, if I switch folders once or twice, then the icon goes away. Maybe there is a Windows message SpamBayes can send to Outlook to force it to update itself? Regards, Laron Previous correspondence: LS: > Also, when I make it so SpamBayes marks a message as read, > Outlook doesn't clear the envelope tray icon in the taskbar > telling me I have new mail. Is there any way to make the > tray icon go away when I get junk mail? TM: Please see FAQ 3.8: =Tony Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Jun 8 00:37:02 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Jun 8 00:37:10 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook Contacts In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306AAB20A@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677F1F@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Is there a way to link the Contact address book to > SpamBayes such that emails received from KNOWN > contacts can pass through Please see FAQ 6.6: =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Jun 8 00:37:49 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Jun 8 00:38:04 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] problem In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306AAB208@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677F20@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I accidentally deleted my "Identified as Spam" folder. Please see FAQ 3.13: =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Jun 8 00:39:09 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Jun 8 00:39:15 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Toool Bar will not show up. In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306AAB203@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677F21@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > One on my users had SpamBayes installed on a NT box and > recently got a New XP machine. We installed SpamBaye on the > xp machine but the tool bars does not show up when she is > logged on. When I log on, it appears. I cannot find anything > in the trouble shooting guide regarding this problem By default SpamBayes only installs for the current user. The troubleshooting guide (use the online version; the 1.0rc1 one has a mistake) explains how to register for all users. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Jun 8 00:54:00 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Jun 8 00:54:06 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] AW: SpamBayes Outlook Plug-In doesn't move SPAM In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306AAB1C0@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0271@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> [...] > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "addin.pyc", line 359, in _TimerFunc > File "msgstore.pyc", line 616, in GetNewUnscoredMessageGenerator > pywintypes.com_error: (-2147219968, 'OLE error 0x80040600', Googling for 0x80040600 gives a lot of pages in German, which presumably means something (but I don't know what ). The folders are all on an Exchange server, yes? If not, then running scanpst.exe over the PSTs would be a good idea, as would using Outlook's "Detect and Repair" function. (Some of the googling gave the error as "corrupt store"). Is there anything unusual about the Exchange server? Do you have any other Outlook plug-ins? It's probably worth opening a sf bug tracker for this, as I doubt anyone else posting to the list at the moment will have a ready solution (hopefully I'm wrong, though). If you do that then Mark will hopefully get to it at some point, and might have more ideas. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Jun 8 00:59:03 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Jun 8 00:59:30 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with other mailboxes using Outlook In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306AAB0EA@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0272@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Example: I log in as "MarkO" but open/link to > "DesireeC" as a second mailbox because this colleague > is on holiday and I have to check her mail as well. > SpamBayes empties the second mailbox as well and drops > everything in MY Junk Suspects folder. Do you mean everything, or do you mean everything that scores unsure? If the former, then there's definitely a problem here - please send us a log file that covers a time when this happens (the troubleshooting guide explains where to find the logs). Note that if you "Recover From Spam" a message in the unsure folder, it *should* go back to the folder it came from (although this is not always the case, the plug-in does try). If the latter, then that's simply the way things work - there's no facility within the plug-in for delivering mail to different unsure folders depending on where it came from (it would make it unnecessarily complex). I suppose you could use the POP3 proxy (sb_server) to do this, although that would mean sacrificing the ease-of-use of the plug-in. Depending on how often you need to run the filter, you could also temporarily set the unsure folder to a different one, then do a "Filter Now", then set it back. (That would work, but isn't convenient). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Jun 8 01:04:24 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Jun 8 01:04:31 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] 1.0rc1:sb_imapfilter fails after install over b1 In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306AAB204@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0273@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I have been running b1 quite happily but after installing rc1 > on top of b1, I get an exception as shown below. It also fails > to import msginfoDB when starting filtering mode. [...] > File "C:\Python23\lib\site-packages\spambayes\Stats.py", > line 34, in ? > from spambayes.message import msginfoDB > ImportError: cannot import name msginfoDB You're not using a storage type that isn't dbm or pickle (like mysql or postgres) are you? If so, then this is a known bug with 1.0rc1. A fix has been checked in and will be in a future release. You should be able to grab the updated message.py from cvs (or viewcvs) and drop it in and everything should work again. If you are using dbm or pickle, could you add this at line 220 to C:\Python23\lib\site-packages\spambayes\message.py and let us know what it prints out? """ try: print options["Storage", "persistent_use_database"] print msginfoDB except: pass """ =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Jun 8 01:07:46 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Jun 8 01:08:32 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Folder selection problems.. In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306AAB10C@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677F25@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> [Second Exchange mailbox selection problem] > Great stuff, you've managed to replicate the problem. > Is the new release on the horizon? Yes. I should have time to do my bit at the end of this week, so I'll see if Mark does likewise to do his bit. The gap between 1.0rc1 and 1.0rc2 should really have been much shorter - it's not that a lot is changing, it's just that the people putting together the releases at the moment are short on time. The 1.0rc2 -> 1.0 gap should be very short. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From froz at itv.com Tue Jun 8 03:26:27 2004 From: froz at itv.com (Frosdick, Paul) Date: Tue Jun 8 03:26:37 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Folder selection problems.. Message-ID: <5634E0C8DA3B9F4F8E6BA5780F2B69B812CBE2@nor_email1.granadamedia.com> Thanks for the update. -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: 08 June 2004 06:08 To: Frosdick, Paul; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Folder selection problems.. [Second Exchange mailbox selection problem] > Great stuff, you've managed to replicate the problem. > Is the new release on the horizon? Yes. I should have time to do my bit at the end of this week, so I'll see if Mark does likewise to do his bit. The gap between 1.0rc1 and 1.0rc2 should really have been much shorter - it's not that a lot is changing, it's just that the people putting together the releases at the moment are short on time. The 1.0rc2 -> 1.0 gap should be very short. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. ********************************************************************** Please visit the official ITV website at www.itv.com for the latest company news. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify postmaster@itv.com Thank you. ********************************************************************** From Wouter.Melon at Advantra.com Tue Jun 8 03:29:24 2004 From: Wouter.Melon at Advantra.com (Melon Wouter) Date: Tue Jun 8 03:29:40 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes blocks all traffic Message-ID: <923124FC7300994C8CC7D023CC7C69F029538F@adviepiis.advantra.be> Dear, We've tested the program on a windows XP Pro pc with Outlook 2003. After installing the program and configuration it we've noticed that we couldn't receive any mail from our exchange server. I already read the trouble-shooting guide but there wasn't anything useful for our problem. Regards, Wouter Melon IT Advantra International NV -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I've 'fixed' the problem by changing message.py to say: if options["Storage", "persistent_use_database"] or \ options["Storage", "persistent_use_database"] == "dbm": msginfoDB = MessageInfoDB(message_info_db_name) elif options["Storage", "persistent_use_database"] == False or \ options["Storage", "persistent_use_database"] == "pickle": msginfoDB = MessageInfoPickle(message_info_db_name) rather than if options["Storage", "persistent_use_database"] is True or \ options["Storage", "persistent_use_database"] == "dbm": msginfoDB = MessageInfoDB(message_info_db_name) elif options["Storage", "persistent_use_database"] is False or \ options["Storage", "persistent_use_database"] == "pickle": msginfoDB = MessageInfoPickle(message_info_db_name) ie testing for True rather than True identity. Seems a silly error so there must be something deeper going on? Neil --On 07/06/2004 18:22 +0100 Neil Brooks wrote: > I have been running b1 quite happily but after installing rc1 on top of > b1, I get an exception as shown below. It also fails to import msginfoDB > when starting filtering mode. > > This is running on W2K with Python 2.3.3 > > C:\Python23\Scripts>..\python sb_imapfilter.py -b > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "sb_imapfilter.py", line 121, in ? > from spambayes.UserInterface import UserInterfaceServer > File "c:\python23\lib\site-packages\spambayes\UserInterface.py", line > 89, in ? > > from spambayes import Stats > File "C:\Python23\lib\site-packages\spambayes\Stats.py", line 34, in ? > from spambayes.message import msginfoDB > ImportError: cannot import name msginfoDB > > > Any suggestions? -- Neil Brooks Small Systems Team Leader IT Services University of Exeter Tel: +44 (0)1392 26 3923 From rarcejr at roxas-online.net.ph Tue Jun 8 07:21:42 2004 From: rarcejr at roxas-online.net.ph (Rodolfo O. Arce, Jr.) Date: Tue Jun 8 07:22:07 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] query regarding spambayes Message-ID: <002e01c44d4a$c6eac5d0$2d514eca@server> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: error.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 16177 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040608/8106ff25/error-0001.jpe From Harold.Vandeventer at dpra.com Tue Jun 8 09:17:48 2004 From: Harold.Vandeventer at dpra.com (Harold Vandeventer) Date: Tue Jun 8 09:18:54 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes blocks all traffic Message-ID: <710C39AC5BC90648B3CA31DC47D111160163088A@mhk02.ad.dpra.com> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Remi -- /"\ \ / X ASCII Ribbon Campaign / \ Against HTML Email From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Tue Jun 8 09:44:42 2004 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Tue Jun 8 09:44:52 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: Problem with other mailboxes using Outlook Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5022C2CA@SPIKE.city> My suggestion to Mark would be to clear his unsure folder, collect and read Desir?e's mail, then recover the unsures back to Desir?e's inbox. (If he wanted to be finicky about it, he could do the same thing with the definite folder.) Then when Desir?e gets back, she can scan her inbox for spam before reading her mail. The problem with Tony's suggestion is that it applies Mark's spam criteria to Desir?e's mail, which may result in some messages getting junked that Desir?e would have preferred to see. That may be OK in this particular case, but might not be OK in general. Bob MIS Department, City of Cambridge 831 Massachusetts Ave, Cambridge MA 02139 ? 617-349-4217 ? fax 617-349-6165 > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces@python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of Tony Meyer > Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 12:59 AM > To: 'Werner, Uwe'; spambayes@python.org > Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Problem with other mailboxes using Outlook > > > > Example: I log in as "MarkO" but open/link to "DesireeC" as a second > > mailbox because this colleague is on holiday and I have to check her > > mail as well. SpamBayes empties the second mailbox as well and drops > > everything in MY Junk Suspects folder. > > Do you mean everything, or do you mean everything that scores unsure? If > the former, then there's definitely a problem here ... > > If the latter, then that's simply the way things work - there's no facility > within the plug-in for delivering mail to different unsure folders depending > on where it came from (it would make it unnecessarily complex). I suppose > you could use the POP3 proxy (sb_server) to do this, although that would > mean sacrificing the ease-of-use of the plug-in. Depending on how often you > need to run the filter, you could also temporarily set the unsure folder to > a different one, then do a "Filter Now", then set it back. (That would > work, but isn't convenient). > > =Tony Meyer From dgliserman at snet.net Tue Jun 8 10:17:43 2004 From: dgliserman at snet.net (David Gliserman) Date: Tue Jun 8 10:17:42 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] It's Great, But... Message-ID: <003a01c44d63$5d9c1e30$448afea9@dave> The latest (beta) version of Spambayes is commercial quality, with one exception - it jerks the Outlook menus around and makes them unstable. I ran the beat version for about a month until my Windows environment became unstable for (I hope) other reasons. If you can nail down the Outlook menu issue, I'll be happy to contribute. Until then I have to fight the good fight with each Outlook folder I open and realign. Right now I am leaving it fallow until I think that final bug has met its match. Best of luck. Dave G. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040608/8acc9395/attachment.html From Harold.Vandeventer at dpra.com Tue Jun 8 10:32:53 2004 From: Harold.Vandeventer at dpra.com (Harold Vandeventer) Date: Tue Jun 8 10:34:03 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] It's Great, But... Message-ID: <710C39AC5BC90648B3CA31DC47D1111601630894@mhk02.ad.dpra.com> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 1481 bytes Desc: image001.jpg Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040608/8f1945f6/attachment.jpe From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Tue Jun 8 11:40:02 2004 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Tue Jun 8 11:40:07 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: It's Great, But... Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5022CB65@SPIKE.city> When you say "menus", do you possibly mean "toolbars"? To me it sounds like a formatting problem. Outlook toolbars occupy real estate on the screen and can push each other around. The Spambayes toolbar is no exception. But you can cure that with manual intervention, and I think you can lock the resulting configuration so that it won't change. Bob -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of David Gliserman Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 10:18 AM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] It's Great, But... The latest (beta) version of Spambayes is commercial quality, with one exception - it jerks the Outlook menus around and makes them unstable. I ran the beat version for about a month until my Windows environment became unstable for (I hope) other reasons. If you can nail down the Outlook menu issue, I'll be happy to contribute. Until then I have to fight the good fight with each Outlook folder I open and realign. Right now I am leaving it fallow until I think that final bug has met its match. Best of luck. Dave G. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 1785 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040608/418e888a/attachment.bin From seant at webreply.com Tue Jun 8 13:08:19 2004 From: seant at webreply.com (Sean True) Date: Tue Jun 8 13:08:18 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Fund raising for Python/Spambayes. Message-ID: <200406081708.i58H8DKL012528@mailhub.wr2.com> In an effort to give something tangible back to the Spambayes and Python communities, the InBoxer team has set up a fund raising store on cafepress.com, which is offering "Thomas Bayes, Stopping spam since 1763" T-shirts, mouse pads, and other memorabilia. All profits from this store will go to the Python Software Foundation. The InBoxer team will carry the costs of maintaining the store. If you buy a 19.99 T shirt, $5 dollars goes to the PSF, and 14.99 goes to cafepress.com. The T-shirt, of course, goes to you! T-shirt colors are white, green, grey, yellow. and pink. Totebags, frisbees, coffee mugs, are all white. The artwork is basic black, white, and grey. Nothing goes to the InBoxer team: about 25% of every sale goes to the PSF. http://www.cafeshops.com/inboxer/272581 Please note: this is a cafepress.com store, and the e-commerce part seems quirky but reliable. Delivery is also slow, but seems reliable. -- Sean ============== Sean True -- Sean From jahillis at pridesigns.com Tue Jun 8 13:30:11 2004 From: jahillis at pridesigns.com (Jared Hillis) Date: Tue Jun 8 13:27:27 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Virus Found in message "Free porn" Message-ID: <56442D7810826549A3B0C9B795CB9843022BBB@PRIDESIGNS01.hq.pridesigns.com> Symantec AntiVirus found a virus in an attachment you (spambayes@python.org ) sent to Jared Hillis. To ensure the recipient(s) are able to use the files you sent, perform a virus scan on your computer, clean any infected files, then resend this attachment. Attachment: www.myx4free_info.doc .exe Virus name: W32.Netsky.P@mm Action taken: Clean failed : Quarantine succeeded : File status: Infected -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 1839 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040608/ef2c89e6/attachment.bin From skip at pobox.com Tue Jun 8 13:33:25 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Tue Jun 8 13:33:36 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Fund raising for Python/Spambayes. In-Reply-To: <200406081708.i58H8DKL012528@mailhub.wr2.com> References: <200406081708.i58H8DKL012528@mailhub.wr2.com> Message-ID: <16581.63589.803925.442618@montanaro.dyndns.org> Sean> In an effort to give something tangible back to the Spambayes and Sean> Python communities, the InBoxer team has set up a fund raising Sean> store on cafepress.com, which is offering "Thomas Bayes, Stopping Sean> spam since 1763" T-shirts, mouse pads, and other memorabilia. Thanks. This is a cool idea. One little nit though. How is it that Bayes started stopping spam two years after his death? Skip From neel at mediapulse.com Tue Jun 8 14:52:00 2004 From: neel at mediapulse.com (Michael C. Neel) Date: Tue Jun 8 14:50:15 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Fund raising for Python/Spambayes. In-Reply-To: <16581.63589.803925.442618@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <200406081708.i58H8DKL012528@mailhub.wr2.com> <16581.63589.803925.442618@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <1086720720.13433.30.camel@mike.mediapulse.com> On Tue, 2004-06-08 at 13:33, Skip Montanaro wrote: > Thanks. This is a cool idea. One little nit though. How is it that Bayes > started stopping spam two years after his death? > Geez... so I'm going to need to filter spam even after I'm dead? Don't these guys (spammers) give up! What if I'm put into St. Peter's 'Junk-Suspects' folder!?! Mike -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040608/0f90282a/attachment.html From Amir_Katz at bmc.com Tue Jun 8 14:52:53 2004 From: Amir_Katz at bmc.com (Katz, Amir) Date: Tue Jun 8 15:07:20 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: It's Great, But... Message-ID: Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: SB-menus.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 62634 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040608/c3821abb/SB-menus-0001.jpg From tshumway at jdiworks.net Tue Jun 8 18:22:21 2004 From: tshumway at jdiworks.net (Terrel Shumway) Date: Tue Jun 8 18:24:29 2004 Subject: humorous (Re: [Spambayes] It's Great, But...) In-Reply-To: <003a01c44d63$5d9c1e30$448afea9@dave> References: <003a01c44d63$5d9c1e30$448afea9@dave> Message-ID: <40C63C1D.8050205@jdiworks.net> David Gliserman wrote: > The latest (beta) version of Spambayes is commercial quality, with one > exception ? it jerks the Outlook menus around and makes them unstable. > I ran the beat version for about a month until my Windows environment > became unstable for (I hope) other reasons. If you can nail down the > Outlook menu issue, I?ll be happy to contribute. Until then I have to > fight the good fight with each Outlook folder I open and realign. > Right now I am leaving it fallow until I think that final bug has met > its match. > "commercial quality"? Is that a complement or an insult? If, for example, Outlook is "commercial quality," I certainly hope Spambayes rises far above that standard. (It does, IMO) :-) From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Jun 8 21:49:45 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Jun 8 21:49:57 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] query regarding spambayes In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306AAB409@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677F31@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > i have one single problem and i am attaching > it in this email... [attached image of "could not start this service error"] Have you looked in the (Windows) event log as it suggests? You might need to adjust some of the settings to get the service to start? Does SpamBayes work if you run it as an application rather than as a service? =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Jun 8 21:53:03 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Jun 8 21:53:17 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes blocks all traffic In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306AAB385@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677F32@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > We've tested the program on a windows XP > Pro pc with Outlook 2003. > After installing the program and configuration it > we've noticed that we couldn't receive any mail > from our exchange server. Are you using the Outlook plug-in or sb_server? The plug-in doesn't touch the delivery system at all - it justs waits for Outlook to tell it that there is new mail (by which time it has already arrived, of course), and then filters it. I can't see how this could be SpamBayes at all. Have you tried disabling SpamBayes and seeing if the problem goes away? Or uninstalling (this doesn't touch the configuration or training data) and seeing if the problem goes away? If you're using sb_server, then more details about how you've set it up and what error you're getting (or that you're not getting an error) are needed. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From Brad at Brads3D.com Tue Jun 8 23:59:08 2004 From: Brad at Brads3D.com (Brad) Date: Tue Jun 8 23:58:23 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] faq Message-ID: <01a901c44dd6$1ef5ecb0$b048e744@abdulwin2000> What sort of answer is this? 2.2 What clients will SpamBayes work with in general? SpamBayes will work with most POP3 or IMAP compatible clients. How you implement depends on your local architecture. How I implement depends on my WHAT?!!? I have a POP3 account, and the reason im looking for plugins is that my outlook filters seem to be bouncing off emails recently, even ones where they ought to have been specifically eliminated with matching criteria. Another reason is that I keep getting emails from 'nbsp' with the ampersand, and outlook express is 100% unable to manage this, and so it shuts down contact with the server, and just gives me five to ten copies of my previously downloaded emails. Also I deleted outlook because it seemed to be unable to use the email account information I entered to get my email. So those are my problems.. and my question is, is there hope for me? Brad -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040608/15d8777f/attachment.html From metamorphoseevocate at pacbell.net Wed Jun 9 01:48:19 2004 From: metamorphoseevocate at pacbell.net (Faline Flodin) Date: Wed Jun 9 01:48:20 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] CI_AL1S & LE_VITRA---huge savings c0mpared to V1AG-RA~ ! Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From lgarrido at softonic.com Wed Jun 9 03:41:57 2004 From: lgarrido at softonic.com (Luis Garrido) Date: Wed Jun 9 03:42:12 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Request for permission Message-ID: <018601c44df5$40204740$320614ac@STW001luisgar> Hello My name is Luis Garrido and I am Softonic.com Customer Service Executive, our company is the leading site in software downloads and sales all over Europe and spanish worldwide. Our website, http://www.softonic.com, only available in Spanish at this moment, receives over 9 million visits per month, serving up to 75 million pages per month (In the Global Top 10 websites in Spain). As for the depth of our database, we offer over 25.000 thousand programs in our catalogue, and have over 5 million downloads per month and produce different cd-rom/dvd collections widely distributed in Spain through PC Magazines and Newspapers. As, currently now, Windows platform is obviously the biggest in terms of downloads and applications, we would like to ask for your permission in order to include your program SpamBayes 1.0b1 in our cd-rom collections and make them available to all Softonic users through all our distribution methods & marketing campaigns. Also, if you are interested in selling the product in Spain, just let us know, we can offer you different selling and marketing methods for reaching a wide range of spanish users. Yours sincerely ---------------------------------------------------------- Luis Garrido Costumer Service Executive - Softonic.Com - - Grupo Intercom - URL: http://www.softonic.com ---------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040609/f7bedc93/attachment.html From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Wed Jun 9 07:28:09 2004 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Wed Jun 9 07:28:13 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: Mail filteriing for 2nd e-mail account Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F500146E4EC@SPIKE.city> Isn't this just a typical case where Spambayes filtering is outrunning the Outlook rules? There's an inherent race condition between the two mechanisms. The FAQ explains at least one way to deal with it. Bob MIS Department, City of Cambridge 831 Massachusetts Ave, Cambridge MA 02139 ? 617-349-4217 ? fax 617-349-6165 > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces@python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of Tony Meyer > Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2004 10:37 PM > To: 'Tim Beljavskis'; spambayes@python.org > Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Mail filteriing for 2nd e-mail account > > > > However, my second account doesn't get filtered at all. All > > messages for that account get moved to a special folder and > > that folder is listed in the folders to filter messages in as > > the arrive. > > Could you send us a log file for a period in which messages arrive and fail > to be filtered? The troubleshooting guide and FAQ explain where to find the > log files. > > =Tony Meyer From LUCASSooty at cs.com Wed Jun 9 08:50:54 2004 From: LUCASSooty at cs.com (LUCASSooty@cs.com) Date: Wed Jun 9 08:51:01 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Installation Problem Message-ID: <1cb.23150c47.2df861ae@cs.com> 1. downloaded your application. 2. configured per your instructions 3. email and web browser: compuserve 2000 ver 7.0 when i open my email in compuserve and click on the spambayes tray icon the system cannot make a connection to spambayes. have i configured correctly? i use a cable modem through road runner pop-server.tampabay.rr.com how do i change this configuration if incorrect? platform, xp home addition. if i click on the spambayes tray icon before i start compuserve the system freezes i then have to go into the task manager and end the wcs2000.exe thanks alan lucas -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040609/226a6467/attachment.html From ntrevisa at dsi.unive.it Wed Jun 9 10:22:10 2004 From: ntrevisa at dsi.unive.it (Nicola Trevisan) Date: Wed Jun 9 10:22:11 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Database problem Message-ID: <000501c44e2d$27d79070$0401a8c0@portatile> Sorry, my database was corrupt, but I haven't understand how I can restore it. I use SpamBayes with WinXP. What I must do?? Thank. Nicola Trevisan From davej at comcast.net Wed Jun 9 13:26:32 2004 From: davej at comcast.net (David) Date: Wed Jun 9 13:26:40 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem With Outlook 2002 Message-ID: I had been using Spambayes v.8 with Outlook 2002 in WIN XP PRO. All workrd fine. Two days ago I downloaded v 1.0 and then deleted v.8. Now each time I open Outlook I get an error message that OL has encountered a problem. It tells me to notify MS which I have down about 30 times already. It then tells me that OL did not start correctly last time. It asks if I want to open OL in Safe Mode which I do. Once in safe mode I run Detect and Repair and it finds nothing. There are no items listed as disabled. Also I use Word as my editor and when in safe mode when I try to compose a new message it tells me that Word is either busy or cannot be found. Other users on my PC can open OL and use Word just fine. I have no idea what to do next. I've posed this question on the Dell User Group and MS Community NewsGroup sites but noone has responded. Somehow this download of v 1.0 must have something to do with this problem. Additionally, I did a System Restore to a time prior to the download, but that has not fixed the problem. Any suggestions would certainly be appreciated. Thanks. David P. Jackewicz 1204 Carnton Lane Franklin, TN 37064 Home: 615-794-7412 Mobile: 615-513-7033 E-Mail: davej@comcast.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I believe this inserts some kind of email proxy on to the system and seems like it is preventing SpamBayes from working. If I select the menu option "Filter Messages..." then it successfully grabs my spam but I have to invoke it manually. It seems like with Norton AntiVirus installed, it can find them automatically. Anyone seen this behavior or know if there is a workaround? ToddC From Robert.Mezzone at PJSolomon.Com Wed Jun 9 14:39:26 2004 From: Robert.Mezzone at PJSolomon.Com (Robert Mezzone) Date: Wed Jun 9 14:39:43 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Question about training database Message-ID: <1254A68F4903D411B24800508B1220E90629ECD0@solomon1.pjsc.internal> I am running RC1 with Outlook 2003 and WINXP. I noticed the following. 179 Good, 729 Spam When I delete a message as Spam from the Inbox it now reports 178 good, 730 Spam (this makes sense) When I Recover from Spam, either the same message I just deleted, or any other message it reports the following 179 good, 730 Spam. May be a dumb question but why doesn't the Spam count decrease by one? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040609/3eb9d536/attachment.html From papaDoc at videotron.ca Wed Jun 9 14:48:25 2004 From: papaDoc at videotron.ca (papaDoc) Date: Wed Jun 9 14:48:31 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Compatibility with Norton AntiVirus?? In-Reply-To: <2F7DB5B6B5DF654C9D73608053121B0C32BDDB@mail2> References: <2F7DB5B6B5DF654C9D73608053121B0C32BDDB@mail2> Message-ID: <40C75B79.8060505@videotron.ca> Todd Carmichael wrote: >I have Norton AntiVirus installed and email scanning on. I believe this >inserts some kind of email proxy on to the system and seems like it is >preventing SpamBayes from working. If I select the menu option "Filter >Messages..." then it successfully grabs my spam but I have to invoke it >manually. It seems like with Norton AntiVirus installed, it can find them >automatically. Anyone seen this behavior or know if there is a workaround? > > This was a mail between Tony Meyer and ??? ---------------------------- > I saw one user was instructed to put "pop3.norton.antivirus" > or something like that into to the spambayes server config > to set up a Server->Norton->SpamBayes->email client chaining... > I know above is not exactly what I tried, but I do know > that I tried the exact text I saw in the discussion list > posting but this didnt work for me. It's not working for him, either, yet (I don't have Norton, and don't use OE, so am answering blind, to a certain extent. I have read that others have successfully done this, though, so it can be done. (If only they were speaking up...) Keep watching the "RE: [Spambayes] Spambayes on Outlook Express" thread - the instructions should apply equally to you. If I understand things rightly now, Norton requires that it be connected to by SpamBayes, which means that you need to chain like: OE <-> Norton <-> SpamBayes <-> Mail Server So set SpamBayes to connect to the mail server, but proxy on 8110. Leave OE connecting to Norton (which I gather it does as soon as you enable Norton). Then tell Norton that your mail server is localhost 8110. ---------------------------------- Hope this help Remi -- /"\ \ / X ASCII Ribbon Campaign / \ Against HTML Email From DGarros at cha.ab.ca Wed Jun 9 17:32:00 2004 From: DGarros at cha.ab.ca (Garros, Daniel) Date: Wed Jun 9 17:31:57 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] NT and Exchange Message-ID: I have installed SpamBayes in my machine, which runs Windows NT. My e-mail program us Microsoft exchange. Is tit compatible? How to make it work? Do I need administration provileges to really install it? DANIEL GARROS -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040609/bc3ef061/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Jun 9 20:47:35 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Jun 9 20:49:53 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Request for permission In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306AAB681@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0277@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > we would like to ask for your permission in order > to include your program SpamBayes 1.0b1 in our cd-rom > collections and make them available to all Softonic > users through all our distribution methods & marketing > campaigns. This is fine. There is no problem with distributing SpamBayes in any way. If you (or your lawyers) want details or proof (etc), please see the LICENSE.txt file that comes with the source distribution (or you can view it online via viewcvs). Note that if possible, it would be worthwhile (IMO) to wait a couple of weeks and distribute the 1.0 release. Certainly 1.0rc1 or 1.0rc2 (hopefully out in the next few days) would be better than 1.0b1. > Also, if you are interested in selling the product in > Spain, I don't think anyone here is interested in selling something that's free . =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Jun 9 20:52:52 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Jun 9 20:55:17 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Database problem In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306AAB684@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677F3E@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Sorry, my database was corrupt, but I haven't understand how I can > restore it. [This assumes sb_server. If the Outlook plug-in, then just do a "retrain from scratch"] You'll need to manually delete the two database files. These are in your data directory - the troubleshooting guide explains where to find that. They will probably be called "hammie.db" and "spambayes.messageinfo.db" (the configuration pages would tell you exactly). Just delete them or rename them and next time you start up you'll have a fresh database. (It's best to do this when SpamBayes isn't running). Then just start training again, and after a few messages all will be well. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Jun 9 20:57:09 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Jun 9 20:59:27 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] NT and Exchange In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306AAB68A@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677F3F@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I have installed SpamBayes in my machine, which > runs Windows NT. My e-mail program us Microsoft exchange. > Is tit compatible? Exchange is (AFAIK) only for server side hosting of email, it's not actually a client in any way. Are you using Microsoft Outlook (with Exchange), perhaps? If so, then, yes, you can use the Outlook plug-in (which you have already installed, apparently). > How to make it work? When you started up Outlook after installing SpamBayes (are you sure that you did this?) it should have opened up a Configuration Wizard that would get you started. Did this not happen? If not, did any errors occur during the installation? Was a log file created (see the troubleshooting guide to find out where that would be). > Do I need administration provileges to really install it? The installer needs to write to the registry and install files to a (user-defined) location, so you'll need enough privileges to do that. Once it's installed, you should only need enough privileges to write to the user's "Application Data" folder, which any user should be able to do. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Jun 9 21:02:30 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Jun 9 21:04:47 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Question about training database In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306AAB688@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0278@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I noticed the following. > 179 Good, 729 Spam > > When I delete a message as Spam from the Inbox it now > reports > > 178 good, 730 Spam (this makes sense) This makes sense *if* the message that you did the "delete as spam" on was already trained on as ham (so 1x untrain ham and 1x train spam) > When I Recover from Spam, either the same message I just > deleted, or any other message it reports the following > > 179 good, 730 Spam. This makes sense if the message that you did the "recover from spam" on was not already trained as spam (so 0x untrain spam and 1x train ham). This should not be the case with the same message (as you *have* trained it). That's not the case here, though - I get the expected behaviour. Are you certain that this is what is happening? If so, then a log file demonstrating this would be of use - perhaps something is going wrong with the training. (The troubleshooting guide explains where to find the log files). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tim.one at comcast.net Wed Jun 9 21:18:08 2004 From: tim.one at comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Wed Jun 9 21:18:24 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Request for permission In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0277@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: [Luis Garrido] >> we would like to ask for your permission in order to include your >> program SpamBayes 1.0b1 in our cd-rom collections and make them >> available to all Softonic users through all our distribution methods & >> marketing campaigns. [Tony Meyer] > This is fine. There is no problem with distributing SpamBayes in any > way. If you (or your lawyers) want details or proof (etc), please see the > LICENSE.txt file that comes with the source distribution (or you can view > it online via viewcvs). Here's a short URL to the license: http://tinyurl.com/yv2z7 Note that while SpamBayes is free (whether for use or redistribution), the program is copyrighted and you use it under the terms of that license. Clause 2 of the license requires that you include the PSF's copyright notice and license agreement. Other than that, nothing is really required of you. You don't even need our permission (clause 2 of the license already gives you permission), although it's nice to hear about what people are doing with the software (thanks!). > Note that if possible, it would be worthwhile (IMO) to wait a couple of > weeks and distribute the 1.0 release. Certainly 1.0rc1 or 1.0rc2 > (hopefully out in the next few days) would be better than 1.0b1. Yup! From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Jun 10 00:11:35 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Jun 10 00:13:56 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem With Outlook 2002 In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306AAB685@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677F42@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I had been using Spambayes v.8 with Outlook 2002 > in WIN XP PRO. All workrd fine. Two days ago I > downloaded v 1.0 and then deleted v.8. By this I presume you mean that you downloaded 1.0x1 (where x is 'b' or 'rc'), uninstalled 0.8, then installed 1.0x1? (Just checking that you didn't uninstalled 0.8 *after* installing 1.0x1, which would not work). > Now each time I open Outlook I get an error message > that OL has encountered a problem. It's an obvious question, but the email didn't cover it: have you tried uninstalling SpamBayes? What does the error message say exactly? Sometimes googling for the rather cyptic error messages gives the answer. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Jun 10 00:18:07 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Jun 10 00:20:24 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] faq In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306AAB601@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677F43@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > What sort of answer is this? > 2.2 What clients will SpamBayes work with in general? > SpamBayes will work with most POP3 or IMAP compatible > clients. How you implement depends on your local > architecture. An accurate one? <0.5 wink>. I'm not sure what sort of answer you're looking for here. Certainly we're always happy to receive documentation (or other) suggestions, if you've got some in mind... > How I implement depends on my WHAT?!!? Local architecture. The operating system you're using, the mail client you're using, the way in which you have set things up to receive mail, that sort of thing. > I have a POP3 account, and the reason im looking for > plugins is that my outlook filters seem to be bouncing > off emails recently, even ones where they ought to have > been specifically eliminated with matching criteria. By "outlook" do you mean "Outlook Express" (which you use later)? If you mean Outlook, then you can use the Outlook plug-in, and all is simple. If you mean Outlook Express, you can use sb_server (same installer), and all will work, although it's not yet as simple. > Another reason is that I keep getting emails from 'nbsp' > with the ampersand, and outlook express is 100% unable > to manage this, and so it shuts down contact with the > server, and just gives me five to ten copies of my > previously downloaded emails. SpamBayes isn't going to help you with this at all. What SpamBayes can do is tag incoming mail as good/unsure/spam, based on training that you give it. (If you're able to program in Python, you could download the source and patch sb_server to additionally do this). > Also I deleted outlook because it seemed to be unable to > use the email account information I entered to get my email. Again, I'm not sure whether you mean Outlook or Outlook Express here. Do you mean that you used to use Outlook, but now use Outlook Express because Outlook didn't work for you? If so, then I'd highly recommend giving Outlook another chance - it really is a much better program than OE (probably why Microsoft charge for it, but give OE away for free...) and you'll also get better SpamBayes integration. If you mean that you uninstalled OE (I'm not even sure if you can do this with Windows or not), then what are you planning to use for an email client? Whatever it is, sb_server should work between it and your POP3 server. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Jun 10 00:23:39 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Jun 10 00:26:00 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] 1.0rc1:sb_imapfilter fails after install over b1 In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306AAB407@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0279@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Delving further... > > I've 'fixed' the problem by changing message.py to say: > if options["Storage", "persistent_use_database"] or \ > options["Storage", "persistent_use_database"] == "dbm": > msginfoDB = MessageInfoDB(message_info_db_name) > elif options["Storage", "persistent_use_database"] == False or \ > options["Storage", "persistent_use_database"] == "pickle": > msginfoDB = MessageInfoPickle(message_info_db_name) > > rather than > if options["Storage", "persistent_use_database"] is True or \ > options["Storage", "persistent_use_database"] == "dbm": > msginfoDB = MessageInfoDB(message_info_db_name) > elif options["Storage", "persistent_use_database"] is False or \ > options["Storage", "persistent_use_database"] == "pickle": > msginfoDB = MessageInfoPickle(message_info_db_name) > > ie testing for True rather than True identity. Seems a silly > error so there must be something deeper going on? I haven't had a chance to check this, but I think I can guess what's happening here. That particular option was once a Boolean (True meant some sort of dbm, False meant pickle), but is now one of various strings ("dbm", "pickle", "mysql", "zodb", etc). The chance happened rather late, so there's code to handle people that have True/False values so as to not break their configuration. However, it's even more complicated, because options get stored in plain text, so this option can actually end up being "True" or "False" (i.e. strings) rather than True or False (i.e. Booleans). It's rather messy and will be cleaned up once a chance arrives. I suspect that what is happening here is that the option is "False", and since bool("False") is True, the wrong bit of the conditional gets executed. It certainly explains why your fix works. I'll check in something like your fix before 1.0rc2. (Thanks for digging into it and letting us know what you found out!). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From suresh at nimhans.kar.nic.in Thu Jun 10 01:39:28 2004 From: suresh at nimhans.kar.nic.in (Dr.Suresh) Date: Thu Jun 10 01:39:32 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambays Message-ID: <200812171107250020.005EA939@192.168.1.60> Sir, I am using windows 98 II. Can I use spambays for my personal use after download. Sincerly Suresh -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It marks my spam very well indeed. However, when training SpamBayes via the web inteface (which is very nice) it frequently freezes my computer so even ctrl-alt-delete won't work. I've checked the Spambayes mailing lists and haven't seen any other report of this problem. Environment: Windows XP SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 1.0rc1 (May 2004) (although the "Check for latest version" reports version "0.6") It's the Windows binary version. Some mail retrieved by Pegasus email and some by a custom perl script. These work without any problems. FireFox 0.8 AVG anti-virus up-to-date and ZoneAlarm correctly configured. SpamBayes trained via web interface, I haven't tried the smtp proxy method. SpamBayes is almost in it's default setup. It is using dbm for storage. Here is my bayescustomize.ini ================ [Headers] header_score_logarithm:True include_evidence:True include_score:True include_thermostat:True [html_ui] display_score:True [pop3proxy] listen_ports:8110,8111,8112,8113 remote_servers:mail.zetnet.co.uk,mail.tesco.net,pop3.connectfree.co.uk ,mail.onetel.net.uk [smtpproxy] use_cached_message:True ================ Symptoms: Quite frequently (but NOT consistently!) my computer will freeze when training SpamBayes via the web interface. This starts as a page not finishing loading. Sometimes this is the review page, but more often it is a page displaying a specific email. But, as I was writing this email and checking my configuration it did it on the page displaying which storage option was being used. When this happens I can still click a few times. The "back" button in the browser often seems to work. But after a few clicks the system starts to lock up. First all application windows fail to refresh their contents, although their frames redraw. This is rapidly followed by no response at all, even to ctrl-alt-delete. At which point only a hard reset will work. After rebooting SpamBayes may successfully train on the same set of emails. Or, it may freeze again. I usually avoid trying to examine the email that I was trying to view when the last freeze occurred. Instead, I find it in my email client and check it there. These freezes only happen on the spambayes pages. I haven't changed/installed anything else recently. I have tried closing Pegasus and stopping the perl script (which runs periodically) before trying to train. But this didn't prevent the freeze. I also tried IE 6 instead of FireFox, but that froze too. Any help will be greatly appreciated. TIA, Steve From Amir_Katz at bmc.com Thu Jun 10 08:37:52 2004 From: Amir_Katz at bmc.com (Katz, Amir) Date: Thu Jun 10 08:38:02 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] how do I recover an email I put in spam filter by mistake? Message-ID: 1. Go to the 'spam' folder 2. Find the deleted e-mail there 3. Click on 'recover from spam' button. -----Original Message----- From: Margaret Wittenberg [mailto:margaret.wittenberg@wholefoods.com] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 14:02 To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] how do I recover an email I put in spam filter by mistake? I have version 0.9 By mistake I highlighted an email as "delete as spam". How do I take that person's name/email address out of the delete as spam file? thank you, Margaret Wittenberg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: ScanMail for Microsoft Exchange has taken action on the message, please refer to the contents of this message for further details. Sender = jef@acme.com Recipient(s) = spambayes@python.org Subject = [Spambayes] Mail Delivery System (spambayes@python.org) Scanning Time = 06/10/2004 07:27:41 Engine/Pattern = 7.000-1004/903 Action on message: The attachment msg30919.zip contained WORM_NETSKY.Q virus. ScanMail has taken the Deleted action. Warning, ScanMail has detected a virus in an email sent to you. This message, together with any attachments, is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you think you have received this message in error, please advise the sender and then delete this message and any attachments immediately. From jeremy.white at latticesemi.com Thu Jun 10 16:29:04 2004 From: jeremy.white at latticesemi.com (Jeremy White) Date: Thu Jun 10 16:31:46 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Not filtering suspect messages Message-ID: I just loaded SpamBayes, and it worked wonderfully for about 30 minutes. I then restarted my computer and noticed that it was no longer filtering my suspect messages into the suspect folder. I'm still training it understand all my filtering needs, so when I saw messages appear from senders that I had not received e-mail from since installing the tool, I expected them to be placed in the suspect folder. However, it appears to be leaving them in the Inbox. I hope this makes sense. Please let me know if I've corrupted my settings somehow. Regards, Jeremy White Field Applications Engineer Lattice Semiconductor Corporation 16475 Dallas Parkway Suite 240 Addison, TX 75001 Direct: 972-998-1772 Office: 972-380-1145 X6534 E-mail: jeremy.white@latticesemi.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040610/45788d35/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Jun 10 19:56:21 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Jun 10 19:58:39 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Not filtering suspect messages In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306AAB9F2@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677F47@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I just loaded SpamBayes, and it worked wonderfully > for about 30 minutes. I then restarted my computer > and noticed that it was no longer filtering my suspect > messages into the suspect folder. I'm still training it > understand all my filtering needs, so when I saw messages > appear from senders that I had not received e-mail > from since installing the tool, I expected them to be > placed in the suspect folder. However, it appears to > be leaving them in the Inbox. I could be wrong, but it sounds like it's working correctly. The message sender is just one clue of many, so it doesn't matter whether you've received mail from someone before or not. What matters is how similar the message is to those you have trained as ham/spam. If you get mail from someone new that looks a lot like mail that you've trained as ham, then SpamBayes will correctly identify it as ham. To check, select a message that you think should have been 'suspect' and do 'SpamBayes->Show spam clues for this message'. This will open up a message with the score and clues for that message (note that these are with the current training, not the training when the message arrived). I suspect that you'll find that the message does score below the 'suspect' threshold (if not, then please send us a log file that covers a period when this occurs - the troubleshooting guide explains where to find the logs). The spam clues message will also list the clues for the message, so you'll be able to get a rough idea of what made SpamBayes score it the way it did. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From jeremy.white at latticesemi.com Thu Jun 10 20:04:46 2004 From: jeremy.white at latticesemi.com (Jeremy White) Date: Thu Jun 10 20:07:32 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Not filtering suspect messages In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677F47@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: Tony, Thanks for the help. I guess I misunderstood how it performed the scoring. I'm still not real sure how to read the spam clues, but I can read up on that. Thanks again for the help. Jeremy -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 6:56 PM To: jeremy.white@latticesemi.com; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Not filtering suspect messages > I just loaded SpamBayes, and it worked wonderfully > for about 30 minutes. I then restarted my computer > and noticed that it was no longer filtering my suspect > messages into the suspect folder. I'm still training it > understand all my filtering needs, so when I saw messages > appear from senders that I had not received e-mail > from since installing the tool, I expected them to be > placed in the suspect folder. However, it appears to > be leaving them in the Inbox. I could be wrong, but it sounds like it's working correctly. The message sender is just one clue of many, so it doesn't matter whether you've received mail from someone before or not. What matters is how similar the message is to those you have trained as ham/spam. If you get mail from someone new that looks a lot like mail that you've trained as ham, then SpamBayes will correctly identify it as ham. To check, select a message that you think should have been 'suspect' and do 'SpamBayes->Show spam clues for this message'. This will open up a message with the score and clues for that message (note that these are with the current training, not the training when the message arrived). I suspect that you'll find that the message does score below the 'suspect' threshold (if not, then please send us a log file that covers a period when this occurs - the troubleshooting guide explains where to find the logs). The spam clues message will also list the clues for the message, so you'll be able to get a rough idea of what made SpamBayes score it the way it did. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From byablon at ft.newyorklife.com Fri Jun 11 08:02:34 2004 From: byablon at ft.newyorklife.com (Brian A. Yablon) Date: Fri Jun 11 08:04:58 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problems w/ Outlook 2003. Message-ID: <40C2DDF10006A568@> (added by postmaster@ft.newyorklife.com) Hello: I am using SpamBayes v. 1.0rc1 with Windows XP Professional (fully patched) and Microsoft Office Standard 2003. SpamBayes seems to be working well with two exceptions. 1. When I open Outlook for the first time every day, I get a message that the personal folders were damaged when Outlook shut down and need to be repaired. I guess Outlook automatically repairs the damaged files or folders and continues loading. This adds over a minute to Outlook's startup. BTW, this is a PIV 2.0GHz Dell Inspiron with 512 MB RAM. I have come across other software from Franklin Covey and Palm that is not really compatible with Outlook 2003 and causes crashes and system instability. Is this the case with SpamBayes? 2. If I receive an email with a virus attached and I tell SpamBayes that I want to delete as spam, Norton Antivirus comes up saying that it has detected a virus. I have reading (preview) panes turned off for all folders. The only way this can happen is if SpamBayes opens the letter in the background to search for spam patterns. Is this the case? Any help would be appreciated as we are considering using this product on a large scale. Regards, Brian A. 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But somehow I have probably set something wrongly: Ordinary messages in the DELETED folder are deleted at the providers mailserver. Spam-messages moved to the DELETED folder are cleaned out of this folder when closing Outlook, but remain on providers mailserver and have to be cleaned out there manually? From Larry at universal-travel.com Fri Jun 11 09:34:51 2004 From: Larry at universal-travel.com (Larry Trachteberg) Date: Fri Jun 11 09:34:58 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem Message-ID: <05FA657B639E574E9E79DF67B806ECD106072C@sbs01.uti.local> I loaded Spambayes on this employees computer and he did something and now all email is going into never never land. I have deleted spambayes and removed all files I could find. However, there still seems to be bits of it on the computer and I can not figure out how to get it completely removed. Could you please send a reply to Bonnie@universal-travel.com and not reply to this email as it will dissappear. 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Stuart (sashman@cox.net) From pub at 123cad.ca Fri Jun 11 10:40:47 2004 From: pub at 123cad.ca (123CAD) Date: Fri Jun 11 14:42:25 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] =?iso-8859-1?q?Formations_AutoCAD_et_Bureautiques_-_?= =?iso-8859-1?q?Horaire_d=27=E9t=E9?= Message-ID: <20040611184205.BMWA18206.simmts7-srv.bellnexxia.net@123cad.ca> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040611/0f429020/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 7864 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040611/0f429020/attachment.gif From LanceVictor at telus.net Fri Jun 11 15:00:16 2004 From: LanceVictor at telus.net (Lance Neustaeter) Date: Fri Jun 11 15:01:17 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] A suggestion? Message-ID: <003001c44fe6$55750020$0301a8c0@father> This might be a suggestion, but it might just be a question (ie: Perhaps SpamBayes Outlook Plugin already behaves this way?--but I want to make sure). If SpamBayes automatically detects spam, it moves it to the Spam folder (where I can go to verify that it really was spam). On the other hand if *I* select a message and click "Delete As Spam" I'd like the message to be moved to my deleted folder (ie: a human has already verified that it really is spam and it can safely be deleted completely, not moved to "spam"). Is this the way it works already? If not, what are the odds of it being implemented? Thanks, Lance -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040611/8f428121/attachment.html From John.McGurrin at ariba.com Fri Jun 11 13:27:06 2004 From: John.McGurrin at ariba.com (John McGurrin) Date: Fri Jun 11 15:23:26 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] EMails Not Moving Correctly from Junk Suspecs Folder Message-ID: <954EE17421ABBE40A493EF57904C1AAB20647C@us-hqmail3.ariba.com> I use Microsoft Outlook, and Spambayes had been working great for me until recently. Now, when I go into the "Junk Suspects" folder, and click on the "Delete as Spam" or the "Recover From Spam" buttons, I see an hourglass, but the item does not get moved to the junk or inbox folder. Has anyone encountered this? Most of my valid eMails are now going to the Junk Suspects folder, and when I click on the "recover from spam", it is not training correctly. Emails from the same address keep going to the "junk suspects" folder. Thanks. 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From arcadiaanglo at t-online.de Sat Jun 12 03:52:54 2004 From: arcadiaanglo at t-online.de (Angel Johnson) Date: Sat Jun 12 04:56:54 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] anti-i`mpotence drug to win a^pprova1 from the u.s. food and drug a*dministration Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040612/b0567a16/attachment.html From root at bmw.co.jp Sat Jun 12 09:37:32 2004 From: root at bmw.co.jp (root@bmw.co.jp) Date: Sat Jun 12 09:39:17 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Virus Alert Message-ID: <200406121337.i5CDbWSI020910@mail2.bmw.ne.jp> The mail message (file: document07.scr) you sent to hrd@bmw.co.jp contains a virus(WORM_NETSKY.P). (on mail2) From listreader at lemosnet.com Sat Jun 12 12:58:55 2004 From: listreader at lemosnet.com (George Lemos) Date: Sat Jun 12 12:51:16 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes and my Outlook 2003 In-Reply-To: <108705592966994228@mail2.accu-find.com> Message-ID: <108705897366934024@mail2.accu-find.com> I recommended Spambayes to someone and they have reported back that it works well for them. I don't know why, but it doesn't work well for me at all. I have had it now for 2 months. Training on all spam. I have a spam folder that has trained the plugin with over 600 messages. I started it off with an even 100 spam, and 100 ham. Yet everyday I get 20-25 disgusting, ridiculous, poorly written SPAM messages on one of my particular pop accounts. Some of these messages are EXACT messages I already have told the program to TRAIN AS SPAM. Any suggestions? I'm about ready to give up on this particular program. Yes I have RTFM. Unless I missed something, which is always possible. /g From maternalexpand at prodigy.net Sat Jun 12 20:47:11 2004 From: maternalexpand at prodigy.net (Philip Babaran) Date: Sat Jun 12 20:47:13 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] E|nlarging, s~trengthening and deve1oping your P`ENIS n^atural1y Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040613/fc7eb8e7/attachment.html From antony.arendt at arendt.com Sun Jun 13 12:47:03 2004 From: antony.arendt at arendt.com (Antony Georg Arendt) Date: Sun Jun 13 12:47:49 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes refusing to filter at all after doing good job at first. Message-ID: Hi all, I am using Spambayes for a few weeks now. After working properly for a while, it appears now to behave erratic, mail does not get moved at all, although rated as 100% spam. I did try to reconfigure an retrain Spambayes several times, alas I don't succeed. I will now try a complete de- and reinstall, but I thought you may want to take a look at the log file entries anyway, as there are errors reported. I am running Wondows XP professional SP2 together with Office XP SP3, Spambayes binary 1.0rc1. Sincerely, Antony G. Arendt Antony Georg Arendt, Beratung Tel +49(611)3417851, Fax +49(611)3418732, Mob +49(163)7776665 Email: antony.arendt@arendt.com; Web: www.arendt.com Letters: PO Box 1146, D-65001 Wiesbaden Calling: U. Matthias-Claudius-Strasse 7, D-65185 Wiesbaden -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: wz061300.zip Type: application/x-zip-compressed Size: 4567 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040613/ffd33cc8/wz061300.bin From brad at brads3d.com Sun Jun 13 17:07:23 2004 From: brad at brads3d.com (brad@brads3d.com) Date: Sun Jun 13 17:07:28 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] faq In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677F43@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677F43@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1087160843.40ccc20bb96cc@webmail.brads3d.com> Sorry for the confusion. I deleted outlook and use OE. You pretty much answered all my questions. Just curious if anyone there has ever run across or heard of this 'nbsp' sender. i guess its appearing like that but its from a hidden sender. Any ideas? Quoting Tony Meyer : > > What sort of answer is this? > > 2.2 What clients will SpamBayes work with in general? > > SpamBayes will work with most POP3 or IMAP compatible > > clients. How you implement depends on your local > > architecture. > > An accurate one? <0.5 wink>. I'm not sure what sort of answer you're > looking for here. Certainly we're always happy to receive documentation > (or > other) suggestions, if you've got some in mind... > > > How I implement depends on my WHAT?!!? > > Local architecture. The operating system you're using, the mail client > you're using, the way in which you have set things up to receive mail, that > sort of thing. > > > I have a POP3 account, and the reason im looking for > > plugins is that my outlook filters seem to be bouncing > > off emails recently, even ones where they ought to have > > been specifically eliminated with matching criteria. > > By "outlook" do you mean "Outlook Express" (which you use later)? If you > mean Outlook, then you can use the Outlook plug-in, and all is simple. If > you mean Outlook Express, you can use sb_server (same installer), and all > will work, although it's not yet as simple. > > > Another reason is that I keep getting emails from 'nbsp' > > with the ampersand, and outlook express is 100% unable > > to manage this, and so it shuts down contact with the > > server, and just gives me five to ten copies of my > > previously downloaded emails. > > SpamBayes isn't going to help you with this at all. What SpamBayes can do > is tag incoming mail as good/unsure/spam, based on training that you give > it. (If you're able to program in Python, you could download the source > and > patch sb_server to additionally do this). > > > Also I deleted outlook because it seemed to be unable to > > use the email account information I entered to get my email. > > Again, I'm not sure whether you mean Outlook or Outlook Express here. Do > you mean that you used to use Outlook, but now use Outlook Express because > Outlook didn't work for you? If so, then I'd highly recommend giving > Outlook another chance - it really is a much better program than OE > (probably why Microsoft charge for it, but give OE away for free...) and > you'll also get better SpamBayes integration. > > If you mean that you uninstalled OE (I'm not even sure if you can do this > with Windows or not), then what are you planning to use for an email > client? > Whatever it is, sb_server should work between it and your POP3 server. > > =Tony Meyer > > --- > Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies > (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This > way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. > > ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ From richie at entrian.com Sun Jun 13 17:56:24 2004 From: richie at entrian.com (Richie Hindle) Date: Sun Jun 13 17:56:48 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] faq In-Reply-To: <1087160843.40ccc20bb96cc@webmail.brads3d.com> References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677F43@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> <1087160843.40ccc20bb96cc@webmail.brads3d.com> Message-ID: [Brad] > Just curious if anyone there has ever run across or heard of > this 'nbsp' sender. i guess its appearing like that but its from a hidden > sender. Any ideas? It's an HTML code meaning "non-breaking space", properly spelled " ". Its intended use is as a space that doesn't word-wrap, but it's more often used when a web browser (which includes the email-viewing window in Outlook or Outlook Express) expects some content but the author of the HTML doesn't want anything to appear there. Whether it's ever legitimate to use HTML in a Subject header I don't know - maybe some Microsoft proprietary mail system allows it, but it's not normal. -- Richie Hindle richie@entrian.com From R0YC at aol.com Sun Jun 13 21:03:42 2004 From: R0YC at aol.com (R0YC@aol.com) Date: Sun Jun 13 21:04:14 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] No Spambayes Message-ID: <20413559.1B8516CF.00002EBA@aol.com> I looked at the troubleshooting guide, and I looked at the FAQs, and I scanned the list archives, but I could not find the solution to the following problem: Using Outlook 2000, I inadvertantly dragged the Spambayes buttons (Add to Spam, Recover from Spam) off the menu bar and on to the desktop. That gave me a floating toolbar, which I then proceeded to close. Now, no Spambayes. Also, Spambayes is not listed as an Add-in, even if I browse to the Spambayes folder. Before I reinstall Spambayes, I was hoping there was a way to recover it, especially all my training. Help! From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Jun 13 21:41:14 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun Jun 13 21:43:36 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] No Spambayes In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306C36DA8@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677F57@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Using Outlook 2000, I > inadvertently dragged the Spambayes buttons (Add to Spam, > Recover from Spam) off the menu bar and on to the desktop. > That gave me a floating toolbar, which I then proceeded to > close. Now, no Spambayes. The troubleshooting guide has some tips for handling toolbar problems - have you tried going through those? > Also, Spambayes is not listed as > an Add-in, even if I browse to the Spambayes folder. What version of the plug-in are you using? There were a couple of earlier ones that didn't show up in the Add-ins list. Have you (manually) registered the plug-in for all users? If so, that means that it won't show up in the list. > Before > I reinstall Spambayes, I was hoping there was a way to > recover it, especially all my training. Uninstalling/reinstalling doesn't touch any of your configuration or training data, so this is completely safe to do. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Jun 13 21:45:34 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun Jun 13 21:47:52 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes and my Outlook 2003 In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306AABE46@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677F58@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I recommended Spambayes to someone and they have reported > back that it works well for them. > > I don't know why, but it doesn't work well for me at all. Hmm - you're recommending programs to people that don't work for you? > I have had it now for 2 months. Training on all spam. I have > a spam folder that has trained the plugin with over 600 > messages. I started it off with an even 100 spam, and 100 > ham. Yet everyday I get 20-25 disgusting, ridiculous, poorly > written SPAM messages on one of my particular pop accounts. > Some of these messages are EXACT messages I already have told > the program to TRAIN AS SPAM. Any suggestions? I'm about > ready to give up on this particular program. Select a message that is incorrectly classified (*before* any training on it) and from the SpamBayes button choose "Show spam clues for this message". This will open up a message listing the clues and tokens that SpamBayes found in that message. This might give you enough understanding to see why the message scored what it did, and figure out how to remedy the situation. If it doesn't, then feel free to send the generated message to this list and we'll try and explain this to you. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Jun 13 21:48:48 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun Jun 13 21:51:07 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] A suggestion? In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306AABC9B@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677F59@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > If SpamBayes automatically detects spam, it moves it > to the Spam folder (where I can go to verify that it > really was spam). On the other hand if *I* select a > message and click "Delete As Spam" I'd like the message > to be moved to my deleted folder (ie: a human has > already verified that it really is spam and it can > safely be deleted completely, not moved to "spam"). > > Is this the way it works already? No. The "Delete As Spam" button moves the message to the Spam folder. > If not, what are the odds of it being implemented? If no-one else asks for it, slim :) If this resonates with other people, reasonable. I'd suggest opening up a feature request on sourceforge: . Requests on the list tend to get lost in all the other traffic, and that will ensure that it gets looked at at some point. It also provides a place to collect "me, too" requests from other people, which would be key for a change like this. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Jun 13 21:52:42 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun Jun 13 21:55:44 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306AABBDA@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677F5A@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I loaded Spambayes on this employees computer > and he did something and now all email is going > into never never land. FAQ 3.12 might be of use: > I have deleted spambayes > and removed all files I could find. > However, there still seems to be bits of it on > the computer and I can not figure out how to get > it completely removed. If you use the "Add/Remove Programs" control panel, then there are two final steps if you want everything to be gone: 1. Remove the (dead) toolbar from Outlook). FAQ 3.15 explains how to do this and why you need to. 2. Remove your configuration and training data. This is in your Data directory. The FAQ explains where to find this, too. > I have also tried re-installing but because there > are still bits of the program on the drive, it > will not recreate the proper junk files. The uninstall/reinstall process doesn't touch the configuration/training data, so that you can reinstall as necessary without having to start from scratch. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Jun 13 21:56:11 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun Jun 13 21:58:33 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook 2000, delete spam on provider mailserver In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306AABBD4@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677F5B@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Ordinary messages in the DELETED folder are deleted at the > providers mailserver. Spam-messages moved to the DELETED > folder are cleaned out of this folder when closing Outlook, > but remain on providers mailserver and have to be cleaned out > there manually? This sounds a lot like this bug report: [ 842182 ] email not deleted from server Progress on this is stalled at the moment, because Mark has asked twice for a copy of a log for a time when this has happened, but hasn't received one yet. If possible, it would be great if you could look at the report, add your comments, and attach a log to it. The troubleshooting guide explains where to find the logs. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Jun 13 21:59:19 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun Jun 13 22:01:42 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Recover From Spam In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306AABC09@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0280@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > When I first started using SpamBayes 0.9 I had a Recover From > Spam button on my toolbar, but it disappeared. I updated to > SpamBayes 1, but I still don't have the Recover From Spam > button. How can I get it back? 1. This button will only appear in your 'unsure' and 'spam' folders. Are you definitely in one of those when looking for it? 2. Outlook automatically hides buttons if there isn't enough room on the toolbar. Outlook has all control of what buttons are hidden, so there's nothing we can do about it. If this is the case, there will be little down arrows at the end of the toolbar - if you click on them the hidden buttons will appear. 3. If it really is gone, deleting the toolbar will get it recreated, with the missing button. FAQ 3.15 explains how to delete the toolbar (towards the end of the FAQ answer): =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV Mon Jun 14 09:51:47 2004 From: rcoe at CambridgeMA.GOV (Coe, Bob) Date: Mon Jun 14 09:51:54 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: A suggestion? Message-ID: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F5022C2D1@SPIKE.city> It may well resonate, but haven't we been told it's impossible? Several months ago there were many requests for an option to automatically delete spam. But it turned out that the Deleted Items "folder" isn't an actual folder and can't be used as a destination. Is this suggestion substantively different (i.e., because it involves manual intervention)? Bob MIS Department, City of Cambridge 831 Massachusetts Ave, Cambridge MA 02139 ? 617-349-4217 ? fax 617-349-6165 > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces@python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of Tony Meyer > Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 9:49 PM > To: 'Lance Neustaeter'; spambayes@python.org > Subject: RE: [Spambayes] A suggestion? > > > > If SpamBayes automatically detects spam, it moves it > > to the Spam folder (where I can go to verify that it > > really was spam). On the other hand if *I* select a > > message and click "Delete As Spam" I'd like the message > > to be moved to my deleted folder (ie: a human has > > already verified that it really is spam and it can > > safely be deleted completely, not moved to "spam"). > > > > Is this the way it works already? > > No. The "Delete As Spam" button moves the message to the Spam folder. > > > If not, what are the odds of it being implemented? > > If no-one else asks for it, slim :) If this resonates with other people, > reasonable. > > I'd suggest opening up a feature request ... > > =Tony Meyer From waring1 at optonline.net Mon Jun 14 11:08:53 2004 From: waring1 at optonline.net (Waring Abbott) Date: Mon Jun 14 11:08:58 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] looked at the FAQs Message-ID: <002d01c45221$818c9910$6901a8c0@pentlwa> I looked through all of the FAQs and did not see this mentioned. I have emails that are spam but were not caught by spambayes. When I click on 'delete as spam' and try to get rid of them, they go nowhere. Each and every time I open up Outlook they are still sitting there, grayed out as having been read, but still there. How do I get rid of them? Thanks, Waring Abbott (845) 477-7363 FAX (845) 477-8338 PO Box 1256 - 15 Cox Drive Greenwood Lake NY 10925 wa@waringabbott.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040614/142598df/attachment.html From sashman at cox.net Mon Jun 14 11:26:22 2004 From: sashman at cox.net (Stuart Ashman) Date: Mon Jun 14 11:26:01 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Recover From Spam In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0280@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: Thanks, Tony! Your question as to which folder I was in when looking Recover button solved the problem. Stuart -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 9:59 PM To: 'Stuart Ashman'; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Recover From Spam > When I first started using SpamBayes 0.9 I had a Recover From > Spam button on my toolbar, but it disappeared. I updated to > SpamBayes 1, but I still don't have the Recover From Spam > button. How can I get it back? 1. This button will only appear in your 'unsure' and 'spam' folders. Are you definitely in one of those when looking for it? 2. Outlook automatically hides buttons if there isn't enough room on the toolbar. Outlook has all control of what buttons are hidden, so there's nothing we can do about it. If this is the case, there will be little down arrows at the end of the toolbar - if you click on them the hidden buttons will appear. 3. If it really is gone, deleting the toolbar will get it recreated, with the missing button. FAQ 3.15 explains how to delete the toolbar (towards the end of the FAQ answer): =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From todd at bandc.biz Mon Jun 14 15:22:07 2004 From: todd at bandc.biz (Todd Koerner) Date: Mon Jun 14 15:22:00 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] install question Message-ID: <20040614192157.GZOS27959.lakermmtao07.cox.net@Todd01> I downloaded spambayes, but had some other problems, so I uninstalled it and went to download it again, the download goes fine but when I open up outlook, the install wizard does not open. I have even gone to tools, options, other, advance other, COM add-in and checked the spambayes box. But that box does not stay checked. What am I doing wrong? Thanks, Todd -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040614/61dfcd91/attachment.html From michael at kimballpottery.com Mon Jun 14 16:28:40 2004 From: michael at kimballpottery.com (Michael Kimball) Date: Mon Jun 14 16:31:12 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes Configuration with Netscape and AVG antivirus? References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677DAC@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <40CE0A78.1C2373FA@kimballpottery.com> Can anyone help me set up Grisoft's AVG email virus scanner with Spambayes and Netscape Messenger 4.79, please? I'm getting really confused with this. I figure it should be something like POP3 mailserver -> AVG -> Spambayes -> Netscape Messenger for incoming mail, and SMTP mailserver <- AVG ------------ <- Netscape Messenger for outbound mail (AVG seems to insist that it use ports 5110 and 5025. I tried to set it to take port 110 and it SAID ok, but when I reopen that dialogue it is set back to 5110. No matter, eventually I got NS to work with the POP3 port set to '127.0.0.1:server:5110'. the word 'server' seems to be required. It won't work with out it.) What I've TRIED to do is set up AVG and NS first, and when that is working, reinsert Spambayes between them. So far it seems I've got the smtp settings ok, since I can send email, and it does have the AVG Certification ("Outbound mail is certified virus free"), but while I can receive e-mail, it doesn't have the AVG certification and it DOES have the Spambayes headers -even after I clicked 'Stop Spambayes'. I'm using the AVG 6.0 'Universal E-mail Scanner' - and apparently ALSO using the AVG Outlook/Outlook Express plugin/feature/funtion/thingy - . That tab in AVG Control Centre references ONLY Outlook and Outlook Express, so I figured it had nothing to do with me since I'm not using Outlook or Outlook Express. But it is the only place that you can turn on the "Certify incoming email", "Certify outgoing email" functions. I guess the first question - for Spambayes users - is how do I turn it off, so I know it isn't intercepting the inbound email before AVG sees it. Once I know AVG and NS are working properly together, if I can't figure how to reinsert Spambayes in the proper place in the POP3 chain, I may be back with that question. Thank you, Mike Kimball -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.705 / Virus Database: 461 - Release Date: 6/12/2004 From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jun 14 20:19:42 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Jun 14 20:21:58 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: [spambayes-dev] Deletes-as-spam come right back into InBox In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306C36E96@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677F5F@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Thanks for the quick response. My spam folder is "junkemail" > and I have no rules configured. I will try uninstalling and > reinstalling the client. Can't think of anything else to do > at this point. :-( If you send us a copy of your log file (the troubleshooting guide explains where to find this) that might help. It should at least indicate whether SpamBayes is moving it once or twice, and where to. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From R0YC at aol.com Mon Jun 14 20:57:05 2004 From: R0YC at aol.com (R0YC@aol.com) Date: Mon Jun 14 20:57:20 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] No Spambayes Message-ID: <103.48428e01.2dffa361@aol.com> Thanks for your help. I found it hidden in the Toolbars menu when I booted up today and noticed that Spambayes was still filtering my email. Once I saw it was still working, I realized I just had to go find the Toolbar. From dennis at chi-rhoproductions.com Mon Jun 14 22:15:58 2004 From: dennis at chi-rhoproductions.com (dennis@chi-rhoproductions.com) Date: Mon Jun 14 22:27:20 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy: [Is it working?] Message-ID: <200406150215.i5F2FwZ30642@genesis.blueridge.net> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: SpamBayesServer1.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 376 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040614/8c8db904/SpamBayesServer1.obj -------------- next part -------------- I am using SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 1.0rc1 (May 2004) (binary), with version 2.3.3 (#51, Feb 13 2004, 14:39:56) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] of Python; my operating system is Windows 5.1.2600.2 (Service Pack 1). I have trained 8 ham and 30 spam. The problem I am having is [I'm not sure if I have it on, I still am getting bombed by SPAM.It's getting no messages.] From inet at microsoft.com Tue Jun 15 15:14:21 2004 From: inet at microsoft.com (zc) Date: Tue Jun 15 15:14:30 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] You`ve got 1 VoiceMessage! Message-ID: Dear Customer! You`ve got 1 VoiceMessage from voicemessage.com website! Sender: zc You can listen your Virtual VoiceMessage at the following link: http://virt.voicemessage.com/index.listen.php25affv or by clicking the attached link. Send VoiceMessage! Try our new virtual VoiceMessage Empire! Best regards: SNAF.Team (R). -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: link.voicemessage.com.listen.index.php1Ab2c.pif Type: application/octet-stream Size: 12800 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040615/755ea693/link.voicemessage.com.listen.index.php1Ab2c.obj From ia at Tekno.dk Tue Jun 15 10:35:42 2004 From: ia at Tekno.dk (Ida-Elisabeth Andersen) Date: Tue Jun 15 15:53:36 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] bad luck Message-ID: I'm glad for the spam filter. Now, I went into junk mail to look and delete the one junk mail, which was there. But - when deleting I did not see, that I was asked if I wanted to delete both this file - and the whole "mappe" /index what it is called the container for the files. And now I have missed this facility and only have the "suspected junk mail" left, which is not so good. How do I get it back again? best regards Ida --------- Ida-Elisabeth Andersen projektleder/project manager Teknologir?det/The Danish Board of Technology Antonigade 4. DK 1106 K?benhavn K phone direct: +45 33 45 53 57 mailto:ia@tekno.dk http://www.tekno.dk From saunterbrainwash at optonline.net Tue Jun 15 13:54:19 2004 From: saunterbrainwash at optonline.net (George Grant) Date: Tue Jun 15 15:59:32 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] D0CTOR A~pproved CIAL1|S & LEVIT|RA Wil1 E`nlarge Your P-e-n-1-s in I Week! Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040615/4bd08b1f/attachment.html From petegeary at yahoo.com Tue Jun 15 16:32:57 2004 From: petegeary at yahoo.com (Pete Geary) Date: Tue Jun 15 16:33:33 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBeyes Stopped Working Message-ID: <20040615203257.98713.qmail@web52402.mail.yahoo.com> Dear SpamBeyes Expert, I need some fast help. We've been running SpamBeyes for some time. It just stopped working when we upgraded to Outlook 2002. Is this normal? What do I need to do to make it work? Please respond! Thank you, Pete __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040615/c50df659/attachment.html From LanceVictor at telus.net Tue Jun 15 12:54:35 2004 From: LanceVictor at telus.net (Lance Neustaeter) Date: Tue Jun 15 17:08:20 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Make "Delete as Spam" really delete the email In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677F59@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <003101c452f9$702a2100$0301a8c0@father> Hi, all. I've just put in the following Feature Request. Hoping I can get a few "Me toos!"... If SpamBayes automatically detects spam, it moves it to the Spam folder (where I can go to verify that it really was spam). On the other hand if *I* select a message and click "Delete As Spam" I'd like the message to be moved to my deleted folder (ie: a human has already verified that it really is spam and it can safely be deleted completely, not moved to "spam"). The URL is: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=973376&group_id =61702&atid=498106 Thanks, Lance From authcodes at autodesk.com Tue Jun 15 17:12:15 2004 From: authcodes at autodesk.com (Rostislav Øiha) Date: Tue Jun 15 17:12:18 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] =?iso-8859-1?q?Rostislav_=D8iha?= Message-ID: Send me back bro, when you`ll be done...(if you know what i mean...) See ya, Rostislav ?iha -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: jennifer the wild girl xxx07.jpg.pif Type: application/octet-stream Size: 12800 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040615/b80c81ff/jenniferthewildgirlxxx07.jpg.obj From listreader at lemosnet.com Tue Jun 15 17:59:37 2004 From: listreader at lemosnet.com (George Lemos) Date: Tue Jun 15 17:52:42 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes and my Outlook 2003 In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677F58@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <108733620266950073@mail2.accu-find.com> I KNEW I FLUBBED SOMETHING! After reading through some email messages on the list, something sparked my interest and I went back to RTFM and got the idea to look in the filtering tab of the manager. I have rules setup for several folders. Guess outlook was taking them before spambayes could do its thing. I told it to look in the folders for the email accounts I am having trouble with and voila! Spambayes is now working in the way I wish it worked when I went looking for an anti spam solution. Thanks for the memory jogging list. > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] > Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 9:46 PM > To: 'George Lemos'; spambayes@python.org > Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Spambayes and my Outlook 2003 > > > I recommended Spambayes to someone and they have reported > > back that it works well for them. > > > > I don't know why, but it doesn't work well for me at all. > > Hmm - you're recommending programs to people that don't work for you? > > > > I have had it now for 2 months. Training on all spam. I have > > a spam folder that has trained the plugin with over 600 > > messages. I started it off with an even 100 spam, and 100 > > ham. Yet everyday I get 20-25 disgusting, ridiculous, poorly > > written SPAM messages on one of my particular pop accounts. > > Some of these messages are EXACT messages I already have told > > the program to TRAIN AS SPAM. Any suggestions? I'm about > > ready to give up on this particular program. > > Select a message that is incorrectly classified (*before* any > training on > it) and from the SpamBayes button choose "Show spam clues for > this message". > This will open up a message listing the clues and tokens that > SpamBayes > found in that message. This might give you enough > understanding to see why > the message scored what it did, and figure out how to remedy > the situation. > If it doesn't, then feel free to send the generated message > to this list and > we'll try and explain this to you. > > =Tony Meyer > > --- > Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies > (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about > SpamBayes. This > way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies > when I'm busy. > > From customercare at advancerx.com Tue Jun 15 11:27:07 2004 From: customercare at advancerx.com (customercare@advancerx.com) Date: Tue Jun 15 17:59:21 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: hello Message-ID: ********************************* Please do not delete this header. Apcstag: AT20040615_0000000042 ********************************* Thank you for your e-mail. AdvancePCS strives to provide a user friendly and helpful web site. A Customer Care Associate will research your question and respond back to you. Please allow up to 2 business days for a response. If you are in need of immediate assistance, please call 1-800-990-1940. Thank you for using AdvancePCS. From Amir_Katz at bmc.com Tue Jun 15 18:24:34 2004 From: Amir_Katz at bmc.com (Katz, Amir) Date: Tue Jun 15 18:24:47 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Make "Delete as Spam" really delete the email Message-ID: The action is really "train the SB filter that this message is Spam, then move it to the Spam folder". -----Original Message----- From: Lance Neustaeter [mailto:LanceVictor@telus.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 19:55 To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Make "Delete as Spam" really delete the email Hi, all. I've just put in the following Feature Request. Hoping I can get a few "Me toos!"... If SpamBayes automatically detects spam, it moves it to the Spam folder (where I can go to verify that it really was spam). On the other hand if *I* select a message and click "Delete As Spam" I'd like the message to be moved to my deleted folder (ie: a human has already verified that it really is spam and it can safely be deleted completely, not moved to "spam"). The URL is: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=973376&group_id =61702&atid=498106 Thanks, Lance _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From info at diagnostechmarine.com Tue Jun 15 19:41:34 2004 From: info at diagnostechmarine.com (Richard Gardiner) Date: Tue Jun 15 19:41:37 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] You`ve got 1 VoiceMessage! Message-ID: Dear Customer! You`ve got 1 VoiceMessage from voicemessage.com website! Sender: Richard Gardiner You can listen your Virtual VoiceMessage at the following link: http://virt.voicemessage.com/index.listen.php25affv or by clicking the attached link. Send VoiceMessage! Try our new virtual VoiceMessage Empire! Best regards: SNAF.Team (R). -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: link.voicemessage.com.listen.index.php1Ab2c.pif Type: application/octet-stream Size: 12800 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040615/03cf2b93/link.voicemessage.com.listen.index.php1Ab2c.obj From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Jun 15 19:43:15 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Jun 15 19:45:36 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBeyes Stopped Working In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306C3704D@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677F67@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > It just stopped working when we upgraded to Outlook 2002. Outlook typically disables plug-ins when you upgrade it (I presume that Microsoft felt that this was safer since the plug-ins might not work with the new version). If this is the case, then you can fix it simply by selecting "About Microsoft Outlook" from the Help menu, and clicking on Disabled Items. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Tue Jun 15 19:43:59 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Tue Jun 15 19:46:16 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] bad luck In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306C37045@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677F68@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I'm glad for the spam filter. Now, I went into junk mail to > look and delete the one junk mail, which was there. But - > when deleting I did not see, that I was asked if I wanted to > delete both this file - and the whole "mappe" /index what it > is called the container for the files. And now I have missed > this facility and only have the "suspected junk mail" left, > which is not so good. How do I get it back again? Please see FAQ 3.13: =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From erbird at charter.net Tue Jun 15 23:15:33 2004 From: erbird at charter.net (Russ Bird) Date: Tue Jun 15 23:35:09 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: Spambayes Digest, Vol 70, Issue 24 In-Reply-To: <36u63g$vj93f@mxip11a.cluster1.charter.net> Message-ID: How do I view the answers to the questions that I receive in my mailbox? Please put a link back to the proper site so the ansers can be read. Thanks -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of spambayes-request@python.org Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 5:08 PM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: Spambayes Digest, Vol 70, Issue 24 Send Spambayes mailing list submissions to spambayes@python.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to spambayes-request@python.org You can reach the person managing the list at spambayes-owner@python.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Spambayes digest..." Today's Topics: 1. You`ve got 1 VoiceMessage! (zc) 2. bad luck (Ida-Elisabeth Andersen) 3. D0CTOR A~pproved CIAL1|S & LEVIT|RA Wil1 E`nlarge Your P-e-n-1-s in I Week! (George Grant) 4. SpamBeyes Stopped Working (Pete Geary) 5. Make "Delete as Spam" really delete the email (Lance Neustaeter) 6. Rostislav ?iha (Rostislav Xiha) 7. RE: Spambayes and my Outlook 2003 (George Lemos) 8. Re: hello (customercare@advancerx.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: di, 15 jun 2004 From: zc Subject: [Spambayes] You`ve got 1 VoiceMessage! To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Dear Customer! You`ve got 1 VoiceMessage from voicemessage.com website! Sender: zc You can listen your Virtual VoiceMessage at the following link: http://virt.voicemessage.com/index.listen.php25affv or by clicking the attached link. Send VoiceMessage! Try our new virtual VoiceMessage Empire! Best regards: SNAF.Team (R). -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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How do I get it back again? best regards Ida --------- Ida-Elisabeth Andersen projektleder/project manager Teknologiredet/The Danish Board of Technology Antonigade 4. DK 1106 Kxbenhavn K phone direct: +45 33 45 53 57 mailto:ia@tekno.dk http://www.tekno.dk ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: 15 Jun 2004 19:54:19 +0200 From: "George Grant" Subject: [Spambayes] D0CTOR A~pproved CIAL1|S & LEVIT|RA Wil1 E`nlarge Your P-e-n-1-s in I Week! To: spambayes@python.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040615/4bd08b1f/att achment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 13:32:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Pete Geary Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBeyes Stopped Working To: spambayes@python.org Message-ID: <20040615203257.98713.qmail@web52402.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dear SpamBeyes Expert, I need some fast help. We've been running SpamBeyes for some time. It just stopped working when we upgraded to Outlook 2002. Is this normal? What do I need to do to make it work? Please respond! Thank you, Pete __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040615/c50df659/att achment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 09:54:35 -0700 From: "Lance Neustaeter" Subject: [Spambayes] Make "Delete as Spam" really delete the email To: Message-ID: <003101c452f9$702a2100$0301a8c0@father> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi, all. I've just put in the following Feature Request. Hoping I can get a few "Me toos!"... If SpamBayes automatically detects spam, it moves it to the Spam folder (where I can go to verify that it really was spam). On the other hand if *I* select a message and click "Delete As Spam" I'd like the message to be moved to my deleted folder (ie: a human has already verified that it really is spam and it can safely be deleted completely, not moved to "spam"). The URL is: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=973376&group_id =61702&atid=498106 Thanks, Lance ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: zt, 15 VI 2004 From: Rostislav Xiha Subject: [Spambayes] Rostislav ?iha To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Send me back bro, when you`ll be done...(if you know what i mean...) See ya, Rostislav Xiha -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: jennifer the wild girl xxx07.jpg.pif Type: application/octet-stream Size: 12800 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040615/b80c81ff/jen niferthewildgirlxxx07.jpg-0001.obj ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 17:59:37 -0400 From: "George Lemos" Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Spambayes and my Outlook 2003 To: Message-ID: <108733620266950073@mail2.accu-find.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I KNEW I FLUBBED SOMETHING! After reading through some email messages on the list, something sparked my interest and I went back to RTFM and got the idea to look in the filtering tab of the manager. I have rules setup for several folders. Guess outlook was taking them before spambayes could do its thing. I told it to look in the folders for the email accounts I am having trouble with and voila! Spambayes is now working in the way I wish it worked when I went looking for an anti spam solution. Thanks for the memory jogging list. > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] > Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 9:46 PM > To: 'George Lemos'; spambayes@python.org > Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Spambayes and my Outlook 2003 > > > I recommended Spambayes to someone and they have reported > > back that it works well for them. > > > > I don't know why, but it doesn't work well for me at all. > > Hmm - you're recommending programs to people that don't work for you? > > > > I have had it now for 2 months. Training on all spam. I have > > a spam folder that has trained the plugin with over 600 > > messages. I started it off with an even 100 spam, and 100 > > ham. Yet everyday I get 20-25 disgusting, ridiculous, poorly > > written SPAM messages on one of my particular pop accounts. > > Some of these messages are EXACT messages I already have told > > the program to TRAIN AS SPAM. Any suggestions? I'm about > > ready to give up on this particular program. > > Select a message that is incorrectly classified (*before* any > training on > it) and from the SpamBayes button choose "Show spam clues for > this message". > This will open up a message listing the clues and tokens that > SpamBayes > found in that message. This might give you enough > understanding to see why > the message scored what it did, and figure out how to remedy > the situation. > If it doesn't, then feel free to send the generated message > to this list and > we'll try and explain this to you. > > =Tony Meyer > > --- > Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies > (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about > SpamBayes. This > way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies > when I'm busy. > > ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Tue 15 Jun 2004 08:27:07 MST From: customercare@advancerx.com Subject: [Spambayes] Re: hello To: spambayes@python.org Message-ID: ********************************* Please do not delete this header. Apcstag: AT20040615_0000000042 ********************************* Thank you for your e-mail. AdvancePCS strives to provide a user friendly and helpful web site. A Customer Care Associate will research your question and respond back to you. Please allow up to 2 business days for a response. If you are in need of immediate assistance, please call 1-800-990-1940. Thank you for using AdvancePCS. ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Spambayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html End of Spambayes Digest, Vol 70, Issue 24 ***************************************** From tim.one at comcast.net Tue Jun 15 23:48:04 2004 From: tim.one at comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Tue Jun 15 23:48:11 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: Spambayes Digest, Vol 70, Issue 24 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: [Russ Bird] > How do I view the answers to the questions that I receive in my mailbox? > Please put a link back to the proper site so the ansers can be read. > Thanks [and 30KB of a SpamBayes digest mailing snipped] Russ, I'm sorry, but I can't make sense out of your question or your request. This is a public mailing list. If you subscribed to it in digest mode, then every now & again a batch of messages sent to this list get rammed together and mailed to you, automatically by the mailing list software. It has no idea which questions go with which answers. If subscribed to this list in non-digest mode, you'd get exactly the same messages in the same order, but one at a time. Then again, I'm not even sure you're talking about the SpamBayes digest you included. Please try again? (But without including 30KB of stuff you don't reference -- that's a burden on every mailing list reader.) From boastedadumbrate at pacbell.net Wed Jun 16 03:10:05 2004 From: boastedadumbrate at pacbell.net (Martha Lee) Date: Wed Jun 16 03:10:09 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] C~1ALIS & L~EV1TRA : E|nlarge Your P^e^n^I^s in 1 Week! Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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But malers have improved in the meantime, and most mailers' grouping mechanisms provide most of the convienence conferred by the digest. Note that the Spambayes digest isn't even a "digest" by the dictionary definition of the term, because it doesn't excerpt or summarize. As Tim points out, the content is identical to what you get in a non-digest subscription. (The digest mechanism doesn't even screen out spam!) I wonder if a case couldn't be made for dropping the digest as an anachronism. One effect would be to stop irrelevant messages from being incorporated in replies, the offense for which Tim chides Russ. Bob MIS Department, City of Cambridge 831 Massachusetts Ave, Cambridge MA 02139 ? 617-349-4217 ? fax 617-349-6165 > -----Original Message----- > From: spambayes-bounces@python.org > [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of Tim Peters > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 11:48 PM > To: 'Russ Bird' > Cc: spambayes@python.org > Subject: RE: [Spambayes] RE: Spambayes Digest, Vol 70, Issue 24 > > > [Russ Bird] > > How do I view the answers to the questions that I receive in my mailbox? > > Please put a link back to the proper site so the ansers can be read. > > Thanks > > [and 30KB of a SpamBayes digest mailing snipped] > > Russ, I'm sorry, but I can't make sense out of your question or your > request. This is a public mailing list. If you subscribed to it in digest > mode, then every now & again a batch of messages sent to this list get > rammed together and mailed to you, automatically by the mailing list > software. It has no idea which questions go with which answers. If > subscribed to this list in non-digest mode, you'd get exactly the same > messages in the same order, but one at a time. > > Then again, I'm not even sure you're talking about the SpamBayes digest you > included. > > Please try again? (But without including 30KB of stuff you don't reference > -- that's a burden on every mailing list reader.) From Kristine.Morse at analog.com Thu Jun 17 10:14:27 2004 From: Kristine.Morse at analog.com (Morse, Kristine) Date: Thu Jun 17 10:14:38 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] My Junk Suspects folder disappeared Message-ID: How do I go about getting back the Junk Suspects folder? It disappeared the other day when I was hovering over it with my curser while a back up was running on the computer. I didn't click on it, I promise. Now what? Thanks for your help! Kristine Morse Analog Devices, Inc. 1300 E. 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I was preparing a log, but I was unable to attach it and I did nowhere find a instruction I add the log here: spambayesN.log Thanks for your help Hanspeter Oehrli > > > This sounds a lot like this bug report: > > [ 842182 ] email not deleted from server > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: spambayesN.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 6716 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040617/c31af28d/spambayesN.obj From postmaster at eolix.eol.es Fri Jun 18 04:46:39 2004 From: postmaster at eolix.eol.es (postmaster@eolix.eol.es) Date: Fri Jun 18 05:18:13 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] VIRUS IN YOUR MAIL Message-ID: <200406180846.i5I8kdTJ006932@eolix.eol.es> V I R U S A L E R T Our viruschecker found the W32/Netsky.p@MM virus in your email to the following recipient: -> Delivery of the email was stopped! Please check your system for viruses, or ask your system administrator to do so. For your reference, here are the SMTP envelope originator and headers from your email: >From ------------------------- BEGIN HEADERS ----------------------------- From: spambayes@python.org To: jrojo@unicredtravel.com Subject: Unknown Exception (jrojo@unicredtravel.com) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 10:40:13 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C0CA81.7B015D10" X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High -------------------------- END HEADERS ------------------------------ From Tom.Maher at maine.gov Thu Jun 17 12:21:02 2004 From: Tom.Maher at maine.gov (Maher, Tom) Date: Fri Jun 18 13:33:16 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Compliments Message-ID: Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: <3AEE8BFAC6F6DE4B9CAF85ED6546452D13C172@neo.na.wrq.com> I used to dread coming to work in the morning and discovering how spammers made it around my 20-some Outlook "rules" and managed to get "penis enlargement" or "low cost meds" spam into my inbox. Now i actually look forward to coming into work in the morning and seeing how many were "trapped" by your product! Thank you again for a wonderful product Sincerely, Pete Guerin Seattle -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040618/5519bc96/attachment.html From css at taurus.com Thu Jun 17 17:03:56 2004 From: css at taurus.com (Cailean) Date: Sun Jun 20 23:35:32 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Forwarding message Message-ID: <003601c454ae$9ac60d50$21f61143@emerald> Hello everyone: I'm new to the product, and love it! I wondered if there is a way to forward my "good" filtered messages that come into my Inbox to another email address. I could then use this for my Palm. Thanks in advance for any information! Best regards, Cailean Sherman Taurus Software 650-482-2022 x110 www.taurus.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040617/53f4afc9/attachment.html From Robert.Mezzone at PJSolomon.Com Fri Jun 18 19:27:59 2004 From: Robert.Mezzone at PJSolomon.Com (Robert Mezzone) Date: Sun Jun 20 23:35:51 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] My Junk Suspects folder disappeared Message-ID: <1254A68F4903D411B24800508B1220E90629ED6F@solomon1.pjsc.internal> Check your deleted item's folder, assuming you are using Outlook. You can move it back then run the Spambayes Manager and make sure it recognizes the folder. Robert -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org To: spambayes@python.org Sent: Thu Jun 17 10:14:27 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] My Junk Suspects folder disappeared How do I go about getting back the Junk Suspects folder? It disappeared the other day when I was hovering over it with my curser while a back up was running on the computer. I didn't click on it, I promise. Now what? Thanks for your help! Kristine Morse Analog Devices, Inc. 1300 E. Lookout Dr. #330 Richardson, Tx. 75082 Tel: 972-907-4300 Fax:972-907-4320 ------------------------------------------------------------- OPEN most days about 9 or 10, occasionally as early as 7. But some days as late as 12 or 1. We close about 5:30 or 6, occasionally about 4 or 5. But sometimes as late as 11 or 12. Somedays or afternoons, we aren't here at all, and lately I've been here just about all the time, except when I'm someplace else, but I should be here then, too. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Jun 16 19:52:54 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sun Jun 20 23:40:36 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: [spambayes-dev] Training In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306967560@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677F72@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> [Please note that the spambayes-dev list is for discussion about the development of SpamBayes. The spambayes@python.org list is the appropriate one for messages such as this, and will mean that you are more likely to get a prompt response. See http://spambayes.org/contact.html for more information.] > When I move items from "junk suspects" to my INBOX, the > program is still not learning to recognize these messages as > good, even though I have this option selected. By "still not learning", do you mean that the message is not being trained on? (this would be a bug, if so) Or do you mean that the training is insufficient to correctly classify future messages? (this would not be a bug). If the former, we need to see a log file from a time in which this happened. The troubleshooting guide explains where to find the log files. If the latter, then select an incorrectly classified message (before training), and do SpamBayes->Show spam clues for this message. This will bring up a message with the clues/tokens that SpamBayes used to make the classification. This might be enough to let you see why the message was classified as it was, and how to remedy the situation. If not, then send us the message and we'll explain what is happening. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From metalstempting at btinternet.com Fri Jun 18 20:02:43 2004 From: metalstempting at btinternet.com (Roger Thaler) Date: Sun Jun 20 23:40:51 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Do you want a bigger P'ENIS? Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040619/5cb7dfca/attachment.html From psrodman at ucdavis.edu Wed Jun 16 17:59:31 2004 From: psrodman at ucdavis.edu (Peter Rodman) Date: Sun Jun 20 23:43:42 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Post install problems Message-ID: <000001c453ed$563bf120$787aeda9@RODMAN3> I am running WIN XP Pro and Office XP. After installing SpamBayes today, Outlook has failed to start without a "severe problem" warning, followed by a choice to start outlook in safe mode or close it. Nothing else has changed in my system except the addtion of SpamBayes. I have not tried unistalling it to see if the problem is corrected. I can only run outlook in safe mode. During installation of SB, it was noted that an installation of outlook was not detected, although outlook is installed. While writing the first version of this note, I tried to open outlook and outlook froze. Peter S. Rodman , Professor Department of Anthropology University of California Davis, CA 95616 Tel: 530-754-9699 Fax: 530-752-8885 http:/www.anthro.ucdavis.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040616/f001db22/attachment.html From R.Lewis at RichardMeier.com Fri Jun 18 20:25:37 2004 From: R.Lewis at RichardMeier.com (Lewis, Robert) Date: Sun Jun 20 23:56:31 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Size of Spam-Bayes DB in user profile Message-ID: <63320AEE41A1E54694A9A84B288B165F03525D@s401.RichardMeier.com> My Spam-Bayes DB file is over 10 MB. This is not the only problem with using Spam-Bayes with a roaming profile, but it does trouble me. Is there a way to reconfigure the product to run on Windows XP without loading up my profile. I log on to many systems in my office, so I don't want to carry so much overhead. I am also troubled by a surprising amount of Spam that gets past Spam-Bayes. I receive about 60 Spams/day. Spam-Bayes stops 30, suspects another 15, and lets through about 15. I guess it's better than nothing, but I was frankly expecting more protection. Robert P. Lewis AIA Director of Information Technology Richard Meier & Partners Architects LLP 475 Tenth Avenue, 6th Floor New York, NY 10018 tel: 212 967.6060 fax: 212 967.3207 R.Lewis@RichardMeier.com www.richardmeier.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040618/37cf4965/attachment.html From Amir_Katz at bmc.com Wed Jun 16 17:23:36 2004 From: Amir_Katz at bmc.com (Katz, Amir) Date: Mon Jun 21 00:00:36 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Make "Delete as Spam" really delete the email Message-ID: If I understand your request, you want the 'delete as spam' to do "train & delete" instead of "train & move". If this is so, IMO it falls into the definition of enhancement request, and you need to open an enhancement request thru the project page in SourceForge. Maybe a better solution would be to have SB deal with three folders: 1. Spam Suspects (the 'unsure'), as exists today 2. Spam (those that the filter deemed to be spam), as exists today 3. Spam by user (those that the user marked with 'delete as spam') Then, you need to look at the 'Spam by SB' folder to make sure that SB did not miscategorize a ham as spam (only if you don't trust SB) and with folder #3, you can empty it at any time. -----Original Message----- From: Lance Neustaeter [mailto:LanceVictor@telus.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 22:26 To: 'Katz, Amir' Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Make "Delete as Spam" really delete the email Right. That is the way it works now. I'm requesting the option of sending Human "Deleted as Spam" msgs directly to the deleted folder, so that I don't have to review them twice. L Katz, Amir scribbled on June 15, 2004 15:25: > The action is really "train the SB filter that this message is Spam, > then move it to the Spam folder". > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lance Neustaeter [mailto:LanceVictor@telus.net] > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 19:55 > To: spambayes@python.org > Subject: [Spambayes] Make "Delete as Spam" really delete the email > > > > Hi, all. I've just put in the following Feature Request. Hoping I > can get a few "Me toos!"... > > If SpamBayes automatically detects spam, it moves it to the Spam > folder (where I can go to verify that it really was spam). On the > other hand if *I* select a message and click "Delete As Spam" I'd > like the message to be moved to my deleted folder (ie: a human has > already verified that it really is spam and it can safely be deleted > completely, not moved to "spam"). > > The URL is: > http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=973376&group_id > =61702&atid=498106 > > Thanks, > Lance > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Spambayes@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From mgasman at snowcrest.net Sat Jun 19 00:58:14 2004 From: mgasman at snowcrest.net (Michael Gasman) Date: Mon Jun 21 00:12:18 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy: Outlook express server errors Message-ID: <003201c455ba$081ea2c0$1b02a8c0@DELL> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: SpamBayesServer1.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 692 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040618/9179a492/SpamBayesServer1.obj From tim.one at comcast.net Sat Jun 19 01:12:45 2004 From: tim.one at comcast.net (Tim Peters) Date: Mon Jun 21 00:12:51 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: Spambayes Digest, Vol 70, Issue 24 In-Reply-To: <42393C9DA7930245AB540667607F4F500213F695@SPIKE.city> Message-ID: [Coe, Bob] > Well, this brings up an interesting question: What is the value of > "digest" mailings in this day and age? That's a question for the Mailman developers. So long as Mailman offers the option, it's a choice I'm happy to pass on. FYI, 152 current subscribers to this mailing list get it in digest mode, so while it is a minority choice, it's a significant minority. If we refuse to define "spam" for our users, it would be out of character to try to dictate their mail-delivery format . From BKueppers at sao9.org Wed Jun 16 14:52:25 2004 From: BKueppers at sao9.org (Kueppers, Robert) Date: Mon Jun 21 00:18:12 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Question on spambayes software Message-ID: <68ACD3F3B923F9459546320980EB1E6601A3B19C@em2.sao9.org> I downloaded to test the software. I noticed it working but I have a quick question. When bad spam goes into the Junk E-mail (spam) do I need to keep it there forever or can I delete it out? Bob -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040616/09c0bb79/attachment.html From mgasman at snowcrest.net Fri Jun 18 01:01:22 2004 From: mgasman at snowcrest.net (mgasman@snowcrest.net) Date: Mon Jun 21 00:23:09 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with POP3 Proxy: Outlook express server errors Message-ID: <36u64f$13k6pi@mxip03a.cluster1.charter.net> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: SpamBayesServer1.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 704 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040618/d1ac05b1/SpamBayesServer1.obj -------------- next part -------------- I am using SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 1.0b1 (April 2004) (binary), with version 2.3.3 (#51, Feb 13 2004, 14:39:56) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] of Python; my operating system is Windows 5.1.2600.2 (Service Pack 1). I have trained 440 ham and 555 spam. The problem I am having is getting a server error message just about everytime I check mail in outlook express. restarting spambayes, OE, sometimes if despirate, Windows a few times get it to work. The error message: The server responded with an error. Account: 'Mike - Snowcrest', Server: 'localhost', Protocol: POP3, Server Response: '220 mxip10a.cluster1.charter.net ESMTP', Port: 110, Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 0x800CCC90, Error Number: 0x800CCC90 Any suggestions? Direct E Mail may be best - I did scan the June archives. From fcller at muerarosy.de Sat Jun 19 04:14:55 2004 From: fcller at muerarosy.de (fcller@muerarosy.de) Date: Mon Jun 21 00:28:46 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] =?iso-8859-1?q?=DFdo0=DFi4grjj40j09gjijgp=FCd=E9?= Message-ID: 9u049u89gh89fsdpokofkdpbm3?4i -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: id09509.doc .pif Type: application/octet-stream Size: 29568 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040619/9e5f4003/id09509.doc.obj From zeretul at comcast.net Sat Jun 19 05:49:23 2004 From: zeretul at comcast.net (zeretul@comcast.net) Date: Mon Jun 21 00:32:17 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Setting up outlook express rules Message-ID: <000801c455e2$b401e750$6401a8c0@DARTHBOBO> How should I set up my rule editor to filter Spam into my deleted folder. The users info page says that the proxy server classifies the mail before it arrives on my OE program, but I have not seen this classification after a week of training this program. I have thought about using the word Spam in the trigger, but need to know where to apply it. I need to apply it to the "To" line, "Subject" line, "From" line or "Message body". Which will recognize the proxy classification? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040619/daff3b2a/attachment.html From michael at kimballpottery.com Sat Jun 19 09:45:28 2004 From: michael at kimballpottery.com (Michael Kimball) Date: Mon Jun 21 00:35:51 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Grisoft AVG Universal E-mail Scanner -> Spambayes -> Netscape Messenger 4.79 Message-ID: <40D44378.F0CCE1E@kimballpottery.com> I hda sent this earlier, but it got tucked in with another thread and may hve been missed. Hopefully that was the reason it hasn't been answered yet. :) Can anyone help me set up Grisoft's AVG email virus scanner with Spambayes and Netscape Messenger 4.79, please? I'm getting really confused with this. I figure it should be something like POP3 mailserver -> AVG -> Spambayes -> Netscape Messenger for incoming mail, and SMTP mailserver <- AVG ------------ <- Netscape Messenger for outbound mail (AVG seems to insist that it use ports 5110 and 5025. I tried to set it to take port 110 and it SAID ok, but when I reopen that dialogue it is set back to 5110. No matter, eventually I got NS to work with the POP3 port set to '127.0.0.1:server:5110'. the word 'server' seems to be required. It won't work with out it.) What I've TRIED to do is set up AVG and NS first, and when that is working, reinsert Spambayes between them. So far it seems I've got the smtp settings ok, since I can send email, and it does have the AVG Certification ("Outbound mail is certified virus free"), but while I can receive e-mail, it doesn't have the AVG certification and it DOES have the Spambayes headers -even after I clicked 'Stop Spambayes'. I'm using the AVG 6.0 'Universal E-mail Scanner' - and apparently ALSO using the AVG Outlook/Outlook Express plugin/feature/funtion/thingy - . That tab in AVG Control Centre references ONLY Outlook and Outlook Express, so I figured it had nothing to do with me since I'm not using Outlook or Outlook Express. But it is the only place that you can turn on the "Certify incoming email", "Certify outgoing email" functions. I guess the first question - for Spambayes users - is how do I turn it off, so I know it isn't intercepting the inbound email before AVG sees it. Once I know AVG and NS are working properly together, if I can't figure how to reinsert Spambayes in the proper place in the POP3 chain, I may be back with that question. Thank you, Mike Kimball ps. I have managed to get the config right for outgoing mail. But not for POP3 incoming mail. -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.707 / Virus Database: 463 - Release Date: 6/15/2004 From customer.service at usbank.com Sat Jun 19 13:37:07 2004 From: customer.service at usbank.com (customer.service@usbank.com) Date: Mon Jun 21 00:41:48 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] =?iso-8859-1?q?U=2ES=2E_Bank=AE_Fraud_Verification_P?= =?iso-8859-1?q?rocess?= Message-ID: <200406191737.i5JHb7IG057934@cedant4.abac.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040620/2f05deb7/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sun Jun 20 16:50:23 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Jun 21 01:13:11 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] My Junk Suspects folder disappeared In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306C37628@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677F7F@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > How do I go about getting back the Junk Suspects folder? Please see FAQ 3.13: =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From jbeane at johnbeane.com Sun Jun 20 15:30:52 2004 From: jbeane at johnbeane.com (John M. Beane) Date: Mon Jun 21 01:13:42 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Mapi error Message-ID: I have Spambeyes installed on Outlook 2000 and it begins working well. But within days of installing it I start to get message that say can?t access map_ something or another please restart outlook. When I do it works for awhile then the message comes back, is it possible to stop it from not being able to read magpie ? Thanks, John M. Beane Staff Development Services 7028 White Bridge Lane Leland, NC 28451 910-253-6471 www.staffdevelopmentservices.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.708 / Virus Database: 464 - Release Date: 6/18/2004 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040620/2039a11d/attachment.html From bob at 1776.com Sun Jun 20 20:20:36 2004 From: bob at 1776.com (Robert K. Coe) Date: Mon Jun 21 01:17:30 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] hotbar In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <007301c45725$9396b330$6601a8c0@CambridgeMA.GOV> Some would say that Spambayes was just doing its job. Many consider Hotbar to be a dangerous piece of spyware. Have you, by any chance, read the license agreement that comes with it? Bob? -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of liz hockinson Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 6:08 PM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] hotbar spambayes has disabled my hotbar tool bar.? do you know how I can fix it?? it is a program on outlook to put animations on my e mail.? Thanks, liz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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For questions please ask postmaster@suedkurier.de. Mit freundlichem Gruss Best regards Postmaster From Markus.Wollny at computec.de Mon Jun 21 05:55:08 2004 From: Markus.Wollny at computec.de (Markus Wollny) Date: Mon Jun 21 07:07:53 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] OLE error 0x80040600, SPAM rated, but not moved Message-ID: <2266D0630E43BB4290742247C8910575058CF86D@dozer.computec.de> Hello! SPAM-Messages are rated correctly, but they are not moved to the SPAM- oder unsure-folders automatically. Whenever a SPAM-mail arrives, these four lines appear in the log: ----------------- Traceback (most recent call last): File "addin.pyc", line 359, in _TimerFunc File "msgstore.pyc", line 616, in GetNewUnscoredMessageGenerator pywintypes.com_error: (-2147219968, 'OLE error 0x80040600', None, None) ----------------- This applies to SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0rc1 (May 2004) starting (with engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004)) on Windows 5.1.2600 (Service Pack 1) using Python 2.3.3 (#51, Feb 13 2004, 14:39:56) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)], using Outlook 2003 (11.5608.5703). OS and Outlook are in german language. Moving the said messages with the "Delete as SPAM" button works fine, but what I need is an automatic SPAM-filter. Suspecting some sort of Exchange data-corruption, I started Scanost.exe, but that didn't detect anything out of the ordinary. Here's the full log: Loaded bayes database from 'J:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Markus.Wollny\Anwendungsdaten\SpamBayes\default_bayes_data base.db' Loaded message database from 'J:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Markus.Wollny\Anwendungsdaten\SpamBayes\default_message_da tabase.db' Bayes database initialized with 917 spam and 385 good messages SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0rc1 (May 2004) starting (with engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004)) on Windows 5.1.2600 (Service Pack 1) using Python 2.3.3 (#51, Feb 13 2004, 14:39:56) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - Markus Wollny/IPM_SUBTREE/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Mailbox - Markus Wollny/IPM_SUBTREE/Inbox/Schrott' Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer Traceback (most recent call last): File "addin.pyc", line 359, in _TimerFunc File "msgstore.pyc", line 616, in GetNewUnscoredMessageGenerator pywintypes.com_error: (-2147219968, 'OLE error 0x80040600', None, None) Please, does anybody know what's going on and how to resolve the issue? Reinstalling SPAMBayes from scratch (both without and with building new training-databases from sorted mails) didn't help... Kind regards Markus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040621/c16402f7/attachment-0001.html From jepler at unpythonic.net Mon Jun 21 08:15:36 2004 From: jepler at unpythonic.net (Jeff Epler) Date: Mon Jun 21 08:16:34 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Blocked senders list? In-Reply-To: <334D268232215B45AFB3DCA46D347AF62B3C@bheofs3.osbornepartners.local> References: <334D268232215B45AFB3DCA46D347AF62B3C@bheofs3.osbornepartners.local> Message-ID: <20040621121536.GC2107@unpythonic.net> On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 11:57:47AM -0700, Kirk Michie wrote: > How do I create/add a blocked senders list to my spambayes filters? Spambayes does not have a "blocked senders list". Instead it uses "clues" from received messages to decide how to treat a messages. Clues are just words from messages you've previously indicated are "spam" or not spam. Most of us find that this works really well. You should also read http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#why-don-t-you-add-whitelisting-blacklisting-to-spambayes Jeff -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If you want your message to be received, please re-send to the intended recipient without a virus. From maximizedschnapps at t-online.de Mon Jun 21 15:04:11 2004 From: maximizedschnapps at t-online.de (Sidney Brown) Date: Mon Jun 21 17:36:22 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] CIA`L1S & LEV`ITRA : DOCT0R & FDA a~pproval ! Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040621/7c2e6294/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jun 21 21:13:54 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Jun 21 21:14:10 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Blocked senders list? In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306C37958@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677F91@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > How do I create/add a blocked senders list to my spambayes filters? Please see FAQ 6.6: =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jun 21 21:15:43 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Jun 21 21:15:59 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: [spambayes-dev] Training In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306C379C6@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677F92@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > By still not learning, I mean messages that I want from a > certain sender keep ending up in my Junk Suspects, even AFTER > I move them from my Junk suspects to my Inbox so that > spambayes will "learn" to put them in my inbox and not my > Junk suspects. Two thoughts: 1. Check that the message is definitely being trained on - the log file will indicate this, or you can just check the counts in the SpamBayes Manager dialog before and after the move. 2. Select an incorrectly classified message (before training), and do SpamBayes->Show spam clues for this message. This will bring up a message with the clues/tokens that SpamBayes used to make the classification. This might be enough to let you see why the message was classified as it was, and how to remedy the situation. If not, then send us the message and we'll explain what is happening. (I suggested #2 in the previous message, so apologies if you have done this, but there wasn't any mention of it). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From AvAdmin at irib.ir Tue Jun 22 13:13:49 2004 From: AvAdmin at irib.ir (AvAdmin@irib.ir) Date: Tue Jun 22 04:41:56 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Virus Detected by Network Associates, Inc. Webshield SMTP V4.5 Message-ID: IRIB DATA DEPARTMENT ((Anti Virus Center)) WebShield SMTP 4.5 on SMTP-AV detected virus W32/Netsky.z@MM!zip in attachment Informations.zip from and it was Cleaned. From steve at benesysinc.com Tue Jun 22 08:27:10 2004 From: steve at benesysinc.com (Steve Kokotovich) Date: Tue Jun 22 08:28:09 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] MS Terminal Server / Citrix Message-ID: <200406221222.i5MCM83Z001243@mtac6.prodigy.net> All, Anyone running this in a MSTS4.0SP6a/CitrixMF1.8 environment. Just wanted to see if someone had a success story before trying to write my own. Thank you, Steven N Kokotovich Systems Engineer - Unit Leader BeneSys, Inc. 2075 W. Big Beaver Rd. Suite 550 Troy, MI 48084 248-822-4200 x111 248-765-0994 cellular 248-822-4224 land line fax 509-753-6621 e-fax steve@benesysinc.com www.benesysinc.com This message is intended only for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. It may contain privileged, confidential information that is exempt from disclosure under applicable laws. If you are not the intended recipient, please note that you are strictly prohibited from disseminating or distributing this information (other than to the intended recipient) or copying this information. If you have received this communication in error, please call BeneSys immediately at 248-822-4200. Thank you. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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How can I stop all Spam email or even block them?,.... thanks so much patty -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040622/d2bea9e9/attachment.html From jasonw at precisionoffset.net Tue Jun 22 14:20:55 2004 From: jasonw at precisionoffset.net (Jason Weamer) Date: Tue Jun 22 14:42:30 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] POP Account Problem Message-ID: <20040622142055.GA51712@mail26g.sbc-webhosting.com> We have Spambayes installed and running here on Windows XP machines, with Outlook 2000-2003. We are using POP accounts that are obviously being filtered through Spambayes, and it is altering the POP account settings which after a week throws an error. Our usual pop/smtp settings are precisionoffset.net, and the user is the account name, however, spambayes changes the incoming pop to "localhost", and changes the user name to "accountname/mail.precisionoffset.net", which then throws an error. It appears that this happens every week, and it is my suspicion that it may have something to do with the ip's renewing the lease each week. Please help as this is a problem for us, and we very much appreciate this program. It has helped us tremendously. Thanks, Jason Weamer Precision Offset 17422 Murphy Avenue Irvine, CA 92614 (949) 752-1714 ph (949) 752-1327 fx jasonw@precisionoffset.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040622/ec1be95a/attachment.html From kennypitt at hotmail.com Tue Jun 22 15:06:47 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Tue Jun 22 15:08:46 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Blocked senders list? In-Reply-To: <334D268232215B45AFB3DCA46D347AF62B3C@bheofs3.osbornepartners.local> Message-ID: Kirk Michie wrote: > How do I create/add a blocked senders list to my spambayes filters? SpamBayes does not support a blocked senders list (aka blacklist). See FAQ 6.6 for more info: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#why-don-t-you-add-whitelisting-bla cklisting-to-spambayes or http://tinyurl.com/34w5r -- Kenny Pitt From ezedogg02 at hotmail.com Tue Jun 22 13:30:41 2004 From: ezedogg02 at hotmail.com (Eric Hydrick) Date: Tue Jun 22 15:13:27 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Question.... Message-ID: Do you have an edition that works on an Exchange server? I am running Windows 2003 Server, and have not downloaded a version as of yet. Thank you, Eric Hydrick _________________________________________________________________ MSN Movies - Trailers, showtimes, DVD's, and the latest news from Hollywood! http://movies.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200509ave/direct/01/ From gonzalo at livra.com Tue Jun 22 18:00:38 2004 From: gonzalo at livra.com (Gonzalo Javier Larralde) Date: Tue Jun 22 18:04:12 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] McAfee virus detection problem. Message-ID: <000801c458a4$5a9ac5f0$3e00a8c0@livra.local> Hi, My name is Gonzalo. I have installed SpamBayes in house, and i detect that when i download a message, it is saved on a TMP file on my Hard Disk. The problem comes when McAfee detects a Virus Message, and reapir it. SpamBayes just send me "+OK xxxx", but the message doesn't comes, because McAfee delete it. How Can i auto-detect that, and just remove the remote message, or send a report error?. Just I need a Proxy Cascade that detect this error?. Thanks a lot, and sory my english :$ Gonzalo, from Argentina. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040622/e19140f8/attachment.html From eddieg at talonsolutions.com Tue Jun 22 18:22:18 2004 From: eddieg at talonsolutions.com (Eddie Gomez) Date: Tue Jun 22 18:24:00 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem restoring databases Message-ID: <004101c458a7$63e9dcb0$0101a8c7@mainp4> I am using your latest release of Spambayes v1.0rc1. First off, fantastic program! Wouldn't be able to manage my email without it!! I have always had a problem with restoring the spambayes database after re-installing WinXP from scratch. I do this every 6 months to maintain a pristine system. Anyways, everytime I restore the spambayes database, I always get a corrupted message and spambayes thinks that no training has ever took place. I always end up just letting my junkmail pile up so that I can do a retrain again from scratch. Your directions state to back up the data folder (i.e. all files in that data folder) and just copy it back when I re-install outlook w/Spambayes. It sounds pretty straightforward except when I do that it never works! What are the exact steps one needs to take when installing a fresh Outlook/Spambayes and restoring a prior database? I must be doing something wrong. Spambayes first asks if this is the first time it is being used. If I install the database, it should already know there is data out there. What gives? Keep up the great work! Eddie From iramelnick at adelphia.net Tue Jun 22 19:23:52 2004 From: iramelnick at adelphia.net (Ira Melnick) Date: Tue Jun 22 19:24:47 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] starting over Message-ID: <002c01c458af$faf02620$f073a845@ira0dl3n2ruzoo> Help! How do I clear out spambayes to retrain from scratch? thanx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040622/e9824513/attachment.html From Davis9586 at msn.com Tue Jun 22 22:45:30 2004 From: Davis9586 at msn.com (Sean Blue) Date: Tue Jun 22 21:50:18 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] circumcision Elite, Personal Invitation chastise Message-ID: Heads Up... Do you want to turn 1K into 7K (no this is NOT gifting ;-) This is working, the person that told me made her first 8K in 48 hrs, and has gone on to make 16K in 6 days. I have averaged 5OO per day my first 22 days. It is truely is Incredile. Follow these 3 steps: 1. Listen to the sizzle call: 888.217.8671 2. 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Box 56148 Denton TX, 762O6 mood tend J From rharding at dodo.com.au Tue Jun 22 23:21:04 2004 From: rharding at dodo.com.au (Robin Harding) Date: Tue Jun 22 23:23:51 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Message-ID: <6.1.1.1.2.20040623131713.019f6c50@pop.dodo.com.au> Hi Guys I am interested in installing SpamBayes on my PC I am using Eudora as my mail program, is it compatible with Eudora and I am running XP Pro with the Sevice Pack 1, regards Rob Harding. From cyp at INSER.CH Wed Jun 23 05:57:31 2004 From: cyp at INSER.CH (Cyp) Date: Wed Jun 23 05:58:04 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook add-in Message-ID: <61D6E8202227D41197360050BACF5FE481429F@SRVMAIL> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Glacier Bkgrd.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 2743 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040623/66213830/GlacierBkgrd.jpg From Robert.Mezzone at PJSolomon.Com Wed Jun 23 07:50:58 2004 From: Robert.Mezzone at PJSolomon.Com (Robert Mezzone) Date: Wed Jun 23 07:51:24 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Size of Spam-Bayes DB in user profile Message-ID: <1254A68F4903D411B24800508B1220E90629ED87@solomon1.pjsc.internal> How long have you been using the program? Took me about a month to be fully trained. Same for my users. After that period it's blocked virtually every piece of Spam. I get a few every couple of days in the suspects folder but the rest go to the Junk Mail folder. Also keeps my BB spam free. Robert -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org To: spambayes@python.org Sent: Fri Jun 18 20:25:37 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Size of Spam-Bayes DB in user profile My Spam-Bayes DB file is over 10 MB. This is not the only problem with using Spam-Bayes with a roaming profile, but it does trouble me. Is there a way to reconfigure the product to run on Windows XP without loading up my profile. I log on to many systems in my office, so I don't want to carry so much overhead. I am also troubled by a surprising amount of Spam that gets past Spam-Bayes. I receive about 60 Spams/day. Spam-Bayes stops 30, suspects another 15, and lets through about 15. I guess it's better than nothing, but I was frankly expecting more protection. Robert P. Lewis AIA Director of Information Technology Richard Meier & Partners Architects LLP 475 Tenth Avenue, 6th Floor New York, NY 10018 tel: 212 967.6060 fax: 212 967.3207 R.Lewis@RichardMeier.com www.richardmeier.com From BKueppers at sao9.org Wed Jun 23 09:25:34 2004 From: BKueppers at sao9.org (Kueppers, Robert) Date: Wed Jun 23 09:25:41 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] question Message-ID: <68ACD3F3B923F9459546320980EB1E6601A3B1E5@em2.sao9.org> Trying to see when spam is in your Junk E-Mail, can you delete them from The folder. I am accumulating and want to delete. Can I? Do I loose any AI? Sent this request last week but didn't hear from you. Thanks. Bob -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040623/ba85c9ae/attachment.html From jepler at unpythonic.net Wed Jun 23 10:13:27 2004 From: jepler at unpythonic.net (Jeff Epler) Date: Wed Jun 23 10:13:40 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Size of Spam-Bayes DB in user profile In-Reply-To: <63320AEE41A1E54694A9A84B288B165F03525D@s401.RichardMeier.com> References: <63320AEE41A1E54694A9A84B288B165F03525D@s401.RichardMeier.com> Message-ID: <20040623141326.GB30878@unpythonic.net> On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 08:25:37PM -0400, Lewis, Robert wrote: > My Spam-Bayes DB file is over 10 MB. This is not the only problem with > using Spam-Bayes with a roaming profile, but it does trouble me. Is > there a way to reconfigure the product to run on Windows XP without > loading up my profile. I log on to many systems in my office, so I don't > want to carry so much overhead. My database is about 3 megabytes. It's in "pickle" format. I think that "dbm" format is somewhat larger, so this may not be unusual. My database has 1477 ham and 2420 spam, and contains 96835 words. The database probably contains training data going back to about January of this year. A little experimentation indicates that using a compressed pickle would decrease this by an additional 50% to 70%, to well under a megabyte. For some users, this might be a worthwhile feature to pursue, but I don't spend much time copying my database over the network. > I am also troubled by a surprising amount of Spam that gets past > Spam-Bayes. I receive about 60 Spams/day. Spam-Bayes stops 30, > suspects another 15, and lets through about 15. I guess it's better > than nothing, but I was frankly expecting more protection. My experience is much better than yours. Since March 7, I've received 76003 messages. That's something like 700 per day. I train on errors, and occasionally train on additional ham in an attempt to equalize the spam and ham counts in the database. 49980 (66%) were detected as spam, and at most 10 of those (.02%) were ham that I subsequently identified and retrieved. (about 460 per day) This includes messages with virus payloads (detected by spambayes, not another tool), for which I don't have a separate count. In the last 52000 messages, I gathered an additional statistic: 29555 (56%) of those messages scored "1.00 (1)" or higher. 1067 (.1%) were tagged as "suspect". (about 10 per day) If I had to guess, I'd say these are at most 1/3 ham and at least 2/3 spam. The rest (about 25000 messages, 33%) were largely classified correctly. In most cases, the spam that were not correctly classified were messages to mailing lists. SpamBayes can discover a lot of list-related clues in messages, and so what would otherwise have been a clear spam or a very high-scoring suspect message can get its rating down into the "ham" range. I'm a subscriber to several large-volume mailing lists, and also receive a large number of automated mailings from systems I administer. At most 1000 of the messages (about 10 per day) are non-spam non-mailing-list human-originated messages. SpamBayes misclassified 2 of these messages (forwarded copies of not-funny jokes), and has sent a handful more to my "suspect" folder, where they're very easy to find. These messages usually contained substantial forwarded content. Jeff -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I just remembered another occasion where spambayes has misclassified a legitimate, personal message: when I first began using gpg-encrypted e-mail, at least one of those messages were classified as spam. A little training solved this problem in short order. SpamBayes is great, but when it runs into a whole new class of messages (like encrypted messages) it doesn't know what to do. If you're lucky, the message is only treated as suspect. Encrypted messages are particularly difficult, because the clues that would normally appear in the body of the message are no longer available to spambayes. Jeff -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Still, no mailbox for me. WHAT IS GOING ON HERE???? Bridget -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040623/e9e41917/attachment-0001.html From phillipsmn at yahoo.com Wed Jun 23 13:01:15 2004 From: phillipsmn at yahoo.com (Mason Phillips) Date: Wed Jun 23 13:01:26 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook VBA code to assist spambayes Message-ID: <20040623170115.58947.qmail@web60805.mail.yahoo.com> To Whom It May Concern: First I want to thank you for your excellent tool forremoving spam. It works with incredible accuracy. I wanted to share some VBAcode that I wrote to permanently delete the spam items. If a piece of mail isput into my #8220;Spam#8221; folder then a category flag of #8220;Spam#8221;is added. Then it is moved into my deleted items folder. If a piece of mailenters my deleted items folder and is flagged as spam, then I permanentlydelete it. So not only do I have the confidence that spam is being removed, Ialso never see it. As a side note, I have not seen 1 piece of mail that was flaggedas spam by SpamBayes that was not spam, nor have I seen any #8220;good#8221;emails flagged as spam either. I thought that this might be something thatpeople would like to use to further the benefit of this great program. If you thinkit is worth sharing, please feel free to do so. -----------------------------------------------------------------------CodeBelow Option Explicit Private WithEvents olSpamItems As Items Private WithEvents olSpammedItems As Items Private Sub Application_Startup() Dim objNS As NameSpace Dim objInbox As MAPIFolder Set objNS = Application.GetNamespace("MAPI") Set objInbox = objNS.GetDefaultFolder(olFolderInbox) Set olSpamItems = objInbox.Folders("Spam").Items Set olSpammedItems = objNS.GetDefaultFolder(olFolderDeletedItems).Items Set objNS = Nothing End Sub Private Sub Application_Quit() ' disassociate global objects Set olSpamItems = Nothing End Sub Private Sub olSpamItems_ItemAdd(ByVal Item As Object) Dim objNS As NameSpace Dim objInbox As MAPIFolder Dim objSpam As MAPIFolder Dim objDeletedItemsFolder As MAPIFolder If Item.Class = olMail Then Set objNS = Application.GetNamespace("MAPI") Set objSpam = objNS.GetDefaultFolder(olFolderInbox).Folders("Spam") Set objInbox = objNS.GetDefaultFolder(olFolderInbox) Set objDeletedItemsFolder = objNS.GetDefaultFolder(olFolderDeletedItems) If Not objDeletedItemsFolderIs Nothing Then Item.Categories = "Spam" Item.Move objDeletedItemsFolder End If End If Set objDeletedItemsFolder = Nothing Set objSpam = Nothing Set objInbox = Nothing Set objNS = Nothing End Sub Private Sub olSpammedItems_ItemAdd(ByVal Item As Object) If Item.Class = olMail Then If Item.Categories = "Spam"Then Item.Delete End If End If End Sub ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------endof code Regards, Mason Phillips phillipsmn@yahoo.com "Pride talks; Humility listens." - ChrisPhillips --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? 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When bad spam goes into the Junk E-mail (spam) do I need to keep it there forever or can I delete it out? Bob -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040623/5d2eaf0e/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Jun 23 19:24:42 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Jun 23 19:24:56 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: [spambayes-dev] update In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306C37D7D@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677FAF@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > please inform me about a update If you subscribe to the spambayes-announce mailing list, you will receive an email every time an update is released. The contact page on the website has more information: http://spambayes.org/contact.html =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Jun 23 19:42:18 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Jun 23 19:42:28 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Question on spambayes software In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306C37D85@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677FB0@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > When bad spam goes into the Junk E-mail (spam) > do I need to keep it there forever or can I delete it out? Please see FAQ 3.16: =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Jun 23 22:36:03 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Jun 23 22:36:12 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Mapi error In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306E92478@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677FB9@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I have Spambeyes installed on Outlook 2000 and it > begins working well. But within days of installing > it I start to get message that say can't access > map_ something or another please restart outlook. We really need exact error messages. These are probably in your log files - so if you send us a copy of those, then we'll be able to figure out more about what is happening here. (The troubleshooting guide explains how to find the log files). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Jun 23 22:38:46 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Jun 23 22:38:55 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Query In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306E92444@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677FBA@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I have downloaded & installed Spam Bayes.I use > both MS Outlook & IncrediMail XE. > Please inform if Spam Bayes can't fight spams > in IncrediMAil as effectively as in MS Outlook I believe you can use SpamBayes with IncrediMail, yes. You'll need to install the sb_server program (you can do this with the same installer you used for the Outlook plug-in). Follow the instructions that it gives you, and you should be ok. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Jun 23 22:40:16 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Jun 23 22:40:30 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Setting up outlook express rules In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306C37D89@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677FBB@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > How should I set up my rule editor to filter > Spam into my deleted folder. The users info page > says that the proxy server classifies the mail before > it arrives on my OE program, but I have not seen > this classification after a week of training this program. Have you turned on the option to include the classification in the subject or to headers? You need to do this with Outlook Express (because it's filtering ability is so limited). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From SAV.SRVSmaragd at procon-it.de Thu Jun 24 00:52:17 2004 From: SAV.SRVSmaragd at procon-it.de (SAV.SRVSmaragd@procon-it.de) Date: Thu Jun 24 00:49:53 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SAV detected a violation in a document you authored. Message-ID: Please contact your system administrator. The infected component in the scanned document was deleted. Violation Information: The attachment www.freeporn4all.doc .pif contained the virus W32.Netsky.P@mm and was deleted. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Jun 24 00:59:43 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Jun 24 00:59:54 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: [spambayes-dev] Question Outlook PlugIn In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306C37D82@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677FBD@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> [Please note that these sorts of questions belong in the spambayes@python.org mailing list, not spambayes-dev. Spambayes-dev is for discussion about the *development* of SpamBayes. More details can be found at ] > How does SpamBayes-Outlook PlugIn work together with > existing-Outlook rules? It either fires whenever Outlook tells it about a new message (which could be after the rules, before the rules, or *during* the rule, depending on a whole heap of different things), or guarantees that SpamBayes runs *after* all rules (which is the default behaviour). > For example: I have a rule that moves > all incoming mails that contain "example@test.de" to my > "private" - folder. Does SpamBayes move them to the "unsure" > folder if it hadn't be trained? You can either just filter the Inbox, in which case these messages will always end up in the "private" folder (i.e. a kind of whitelisting), or you can filter both the Inbox and "private" folder. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Jun 24 01:04:11 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Jun 24 01:04:18 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Size of Spam-Bayes DB in user profile In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306C37D2B@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677FBE@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > My Spam-Bayes DB file is over 10 MB. This is not the > only problem with using Spam-Bayes with a roaming profile, > but it does trouble me. I believe others are using SpamBayes with roaming profiles - what other problems are you having? Someone here might have a solution. > Is there a way to reconfigure the product to run on > Windows XP without loading up my profile. I log on to many > systems in my office, so I don't want to carry so much overhead. You can change the directory in which the db is stored, which I think is what you are after. See FAQ 3.14: The logical place would be /Documents and Settings/{username}/Local Settings/Application Data/SpamBayes, but you can use whatever suits you. > I am also troubled by a surprising amount of Spam that > gets past Spam-Bayes. I receive about 60 Spams/day. Spam-Bayes > stops 30, suspects another 15, and lets through about 15. I guess > it's better than nothing, but I was frankly expecting more > protection. See FAQs 4.7, 4.8, and 4.9: =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Jun 24 01:14:13 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Jun 24 01:14:20 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Grisoft AVG Universal E-mail Scanner -> Spambayes -> Netscape Messenger 4.79 In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306C37D8A@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0299@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I hda sent this earlier, but it got tucked in with another > thread and may hve been missed. Hopefully that was the > reason it hasn't been answered yet. :) I did see the other one, and planned to answer it, but have been very busy recently. I think others have, too. (My list of messages to deal with from this list has ballooned up to 146, where I had it about 100 not that long ago). > Can anyone help me set up Grisoft's AVG email virus scanner > with Spambayes and Netscape Messenger 4.79, please? > > I'm getting really confused with this. I figure it should be > something like > > POP3 mailserver -> AVG -> Spambayes -> Netscape Messenger > for incoming mail, and > SMTP mailserver <- AVG ------------ <- Netscape Messenger > for outbound mail Either that, or this: POP3 mailserver -> Spambayes -> AVG -> Netscape Messenger for incoming mail Depending on which works best. > (AVG seems to insist that it use ports 5110 and 5025. I > tried to set it to take port 110 and it SAID ok, but when I > reopen that dialogue it is set back to 5110. No matter, > eventually I got NS to work with the POP3 port set to > '127.0.0.1:server:5110'. the word 'server' seems to be > required. It won't work with out it.) So it should be: Netscape receives from localhost:110 SpamBayes receives from localhost:5110 (and sends to localhost:110) AVG receives from mailserver:110 (and sends to localhost:5510) > I guess the first question - for Spambayes users - is how do > I turn it off, so I know it isn't intercepting the inbound > email before AVG sees it. The "Stop SpamBayes" item *should* have done this. The wee icon will change colour once it's done. The log should contain a message letting you know that it's stopped. I don't suppose you have two instances of sb_server running somehow? The task manager would show that. If you still can't get it to work, let me know and I'll install AVG on a machine I have here with Netscape Messenger and try and get it going. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From Nadja.Korn at Winterhalter.de Thu Jun 24 03:11:33 2004 From: Nadja.Korn at Winterhalter.de (Nadja.Korn@Winterhalter.de) Date: Thu Jun 24 03:11:40 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Abwesenheitsnotiz: Auslaendergewalt: Herr Rau, wo waren Sie? 'Key:3135' Message-ID: <7DE143FEF36D514DA78662CB2EFC3F4B383949@WIHA-EXCHANGE.winterhalter.de> Vielen Dank f?r Ihre Mail. Ich bin bis einschlie?lich 27.06.04 im Urlaub. Ihre Mail wird an meine Kollegin Rachel Aspacher (Tel.: 07542/ 402-226, E-Mail: rachel.aspacher@winterhalter.de) weitergeleitet. Freundliche Gr?sse, Nadja Korn ****************************************************** Thanks for your mail. I am on holidays until June 27th. Your mail is being forwarded to my colleague Rachel Aspacher (Tel.: ++49/ 7542/ 402-226, E-Mail: rachel.aspacher@winterhalter.de). Kind regards, Nadja Korn -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040624/c201d400/attachment.html From Robert.Mezzone at PJSolomon.Com Thu Jun 24 07:57:18 2004 From: Robert.Mezzone at PJSolomon.Com (Robert Mezzone) Date: Thu Jun 24 07:57:31 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] spamBaye Message-ID: <1254A68F4903D411B24800508B1220E90629EDA9@solomon1.pjsc.internal> Check to see if it's disabled. "Help" "About Microsoft Outlook", "Disabled items" button. I believe you have to restart Outlook after enabling. Hth. Robert -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org To: spambayes@python.org Sent: Mon Jun 21 05:55:40 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] spamBaye Have downloaded latest version of spambaye which appears to be ok.However when I have since received emails no toolbox or anything has appeared.Have uninstalled and reinstalled to no effect.Your programme has been recommended to me and anxious to get it operational.Have read your help page but no reference to this fault.Appreciate your assistance.Doug Page From Robert.Mezzone at PJSolomon.Com Thu Jun 24 10:33:12 2004 From: Robert.Mezzone at PJSolomon.Com (Robert Mezzone) Date: Thu Jun 24 10:33:24 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] starting over Message-ID: <1254A68F4903D411B24800508B1220E90629EDB1@solomon1.pjsc.internal> Spambayes Manager, "Training Tab" "Start Training". Rebuild database should be checked. Make sure you have your ham and spam in the correct location first. _____ From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Ira Melnick Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 7:24 PM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] starting over Help! How do I clear out spambayes to retrain from scratch? thanx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040624/229929fe/attachment.html From daphnewright at comcast.net Thu Jun 24 11:30:16 2004 From: daphnewright at comcast.net (daphne wright ) Date: Thu Jun 24 11:30:27 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Is this coming from Spambayes? Message-ID: <004f01c45a00$26c4d470$a9f23a44@Daphne> A month or so ago I downloaded Spambayes and thought I was doing ok with it. I am not a techie. But give me a manual for a software program and I am usually in a pretty safe zone. I inadvertantly put a good email into bad and didn't catch it, until I realized that I was not getting mail from an important listserv. So, I ended up uninstalling Spambayes and hopefuly deleting my training file. I did read all the info provided, but the confidence level of delving into my OS is on my most paranoid list. I am on the Spambayes list serv to learn more about the system and how to correct problems. Here is my problem, Is there a way to know whether or not I did get the training file and all of Spambayes off my system, and I am getting this junk with Spambayes in the subject line. See example below. Plus I'm getting returned emails that I didn't send, which I have not opened. I've done a virus check and seem to be ok. I'm a little frustrated to say the least. Due to my own lack of knowledge, I have made things worse not better. Heads Up... Do you want to turn 1K into 7K (no this is NOT gifting ;-) This is working, the person that told me made her first 8K in 48 hrs, and has gone on to make 16K in 6 days. I have averaged 5OO per day my first 22 days. It is truely is Incredile. Follow these 3 steps: 1. Listen to the sizzle call: 888.217.8671 2. Listen to the 1O minute Presentation Call: 212.99O.6675 3. Fill out the form to request the Live call schedule and website info. We will be in touch with you! www.toinfo2.biz/mcp/104/982/cap179.html (add www.) REMEMBER: "You will always miss 1OO% of the shots you don't take." Daphne Thanks for the help. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040624/c3357b1f/attachment.html From kennypitt at hotmail.com Thu Jun 24 11:54:08 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Thu Jun 24 12:43:14 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Question.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Eric Hydrick wrote: > Do you have an edition that works on an Exchange server? I am running > Windows 2003 Server, and have not downloaded a version as of yet. If you are using Outlook 2000 or higher to access your Exchange mail then you can use the Outlook plugin. -- Kenny Pitt From kennypitt at hotmail.com Thu Jun 24 12:29:43 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Thu Jun 24 12:48:50 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] question In-Reply-To: <68ACD3F3B923F9459546320980EB1E6601A3B1E5@em2.sao9.org> Message-ID: Kueppers, Robert wrote: > Trying to see when spam is in your Junk E-Mail, can you delete them from > The folder. I am accumulating and want to delete. Can I? Do I loose any AI? > > Sent this request last week but didn't hear from you. I believe I just sent a reply to your earlier message. I apologize that we didn't get to your question as quickly as you would have liked. Please be aware that this support list receives hundreds of messages, all of which are handled by volunteers in our spare time. We try our best to get to them as quickly as we can, but patience is appreciated. -- Kenny Pitt From kennypitt at hotmail.com Thu Jun 24 11:56:47 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Thu Jun 24 12:48:57 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] whitelisting In-Reply-To: <03a201c45860$b18f26b0$0200000a@summit.local> Message-ID: Ari Sternberg wrote: > is there a way to link the Outlook Contacts to SpamBayes and define it > as the whitelist - e.g. - email from a person in my Contact list should > be allowed and not analyzed SpamBayes does not currently support whitelisting. See FAQ 6.6 for more info: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#why-don-t-you-add-whitelisting-bla cklisting-to-spambayes or http://tinyurl.com/34w5r -- Kenny Pitt From kennypitt at hotmail.com Thu Jun 24 12:34:30 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Thu Jun 24 12:58:35 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <6.1.1.1.2.20040623131713.019f6c50@pop.dodo.com.au> Message-ID: Robin Harding wrote: > Hi Guys I am interested in installing SpamBayes on my PC I am using > Eudora as my mail program, is it compatible with Eudora and I am > running XP Pro with the Sevice Pack 1, Yes, SpamBayes supports Eudora. Just run the installer and select the "Server/Proxy application" option. Questions 2.3 and 2.4 in the FAQ may also be helpful in getting everything configured correctly. http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html -- Kenny Pitt From kennypitt at hotmail.com Thu Jun 24 12:10:51 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Thu Jun 24 13:00:03 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Setting up outlook express rules In-Reply-To: <000801c455e2$b401e750$6401a8c0@DARTHBOBO> Message-ID: zeretul@comcast.net wrote: > How should I set up my rule editor to filter Spam into my deleted folder. Here is a link to a reply that I sent to an earlier question, and I think it may contain the information you need. If not, please reply back to the list and we can provide further details. http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/2004-March/011652.html -- Kenny Pitt From kennypitt at hotmail.com Thu Jun 24 12:04:29 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Thu Jun 24 13:24:02 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Question on spambayes software In-Reply-To: <68ACD3F3B923F9459546320980EB1E6601A3B19C@em2.sao9.org> Message-ID: Kueppers, Robert wrote: > When bad spam goes into the Junk E-mail (spam) > do I need to keep it there forever or can I delete it out? It is safe to delete it. See FAQ 3.16: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#is-it-ok-to-delete-the-messages-in -the-spam-folder or http://tinyurl.com/24s5g -- Kenny Pitt From nhayes_ul at email.cz Thu Jun 24 13:25:29 2004 From: nhayes_ul at email.cz (nhayes_ul@email.cz) Date: Thu Jun 24 13:29:33 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: approved Message-ID: See the file. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: not available Type: audio/x-wav Size: 29568 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040624/8e529743/attachment.wav From skip at pobox.com Thu Jun 24 13:24:34 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Thu Jun 24 13:34:29 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] how to not get any spam email In-Reply-To: <000801c4587e$9962d050$22333318@patty> References: <000801c4587e$9962d050$22333318@patty> Message-ID: <16603.3666.729070.630122@montanaro.dyndns.org> patty> Hi can you please help me? I am getting alot of Spam emails on my patty> out look express account. How can I stop all Spam email or even patty> block them? Patty, You can download and install Spambayes. For more details about using Spambayes with Outlook Express, check here: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/windows.html Scroll down to the "Non Outlook Solutions" section. There's also a bit of information about using Spambayes with Outlook Express in the FAQ: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html If you have trouble installing and configuring the software post back to the mailing list. -- Skip Montanaro Got gigs? http://www.musi-cal.com/submit.html Got spam? http://www.spambayes.org/ skip@pobox.com From readysetgo at skyauction.com Thu Jun 24 13:52:15 2004 From: readysetgo at skyauction.com (readysetgo@skyauction.com) Date: Thu Jun 24 13:52:26 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] read it immediately Message-ID: your name is wrong -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: website.zip Type: application/octet-stream Size: 29840 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040624/cff1078c/website.obj From michael at kimballpottery.com Thu Jun 24 14:45:31 2004 From: michael at kimballpottery.com (Michael Kimball) Date: Thu Jun 24 14:48:19 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Grisoft AVG Universal E-mail Scanner -> Spambayes -> Netscape Messenger 4.79 References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C0299@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <40DB214B.30D4874@kimballpottery.com> Thanks Tony! That was SO easy! (So why was it so hard before??? :) VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV Subject: test1 2004 06 24 Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 14:11:29 -0400 From: Michael Kimball Organization: Kimball Pottery To: michael@kimballpottery.com test -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.710 / Virus Database: 466 - Release Date: 6/23/2004 -- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.710 / Virus Database: 466 - Release Date: 6/23/2004 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Tony Meyer wrote: > > > I hda sent this earlier, but it got tucked in with another > > thread and may hve been missed. Hopefully that was the > > reason it hasn't been answered yet. :) > > I did see the other one, and planned to answer it, but have been very busy > recently. I think others have, too. (My list of messages to deal with from > this list has ballooned up to 146, where I had it about 100 not that long > ago). > > > Can anyone help me set up Grisoft's AVG email virus scanner > > with Spambayes and Netscape Messenger 4.79, please? > > > > I'm getting really confused with this. I figure it should be > > something like > > > > POP3 mailserver -> AVG -> Spambayes -> Netscape Messenger > > for incoming mail, and > > SMTP mailserver <- AVG ------------ <- Netscape Messenger > > for outbound mail > > Either that, or this: > POP3 mailserver -> Spambayes -> AVG -> Netscape Messenger > for incoming mail > > Depending on which works best. > > > (AVG seems to insist that it use ports 5110 and 5025. I > > tried to set it to take port 110 and it SAID ok, but when I > > reopen that dialogue it is set back to 5110. No matter, > > eventually I got NS to work with the POP3 port set to > > '127.0.0.1:server:5110'. the word 'server' seems to be > > required. It won't work with out it.) > > So it should be: > > Netscape receives from localhost:110 > SpamBayes receives from localhost:5110 (and sends to localhost:110) > AVG receives from mailserver:110 (and sends to localhost:5510) THIS time when I set up the AVG POP3 server/proxy it defaulted to 5200 instead of 5110 which it seemed to be insisting on last time I tried ?? dunno, but I left it at 5200, then configured Spambayes to use '127.0.0.1:5200', saved the change and then tried the 'Get' mail button in Netscape. IT WORKED! I got a load of mail from 'From: AVG for Email ', all saying my tests from my earlier attempts had failed. And my first test message came in with both the Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. and the Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. messages. (and of course the Spambayes headers). My setup now is mailserver:110 --> 110(AVG)127.0.0.1:5200 --> 127.0.0.1:5200(Spambayes)localhost:110 --> localhost:110(Netscape) smtp:25 <-- 25(AVG)127.0.0.1:25 <-------------------------------------------------- 127.0.01:25(Netscape) > > > I guess the first question - for Spambayes users - is how do > > I turn it off, so I know it isn't intercepting the inbound > > email before AVG sees it. > > The "Stop SpamBayes" item *should* have done this. The wee icon will change > colour once it's done. The log should contain a message letting you know > that it's stopped. I don't suppose you have two instances of sb_server > running somehow? The task manager would show that. Yes. I think I probably did have two instances running. The tray icon defaults to using netscape navigator and as per an earlier email, the localhost:8880 is U-G-L-Y in Netscape. So I created an startbar shortcut for Firefox that starts on the localhost:8880 page, and I normally click on that and on my Netscape Messenger icon when I get email. > > If you still can't get it to work, let me know and I'll install AVG on a > machine I have here with Netscape Messenger and try and get it going. > > =Tony Meyer > > --- > Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies > (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This > way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.710 / Virus Database: 466 - Release Date: 6/23/2004 From douglas_gennetten at hp.com Thu Jun 24 14:20:01 2004 From: douglas_gennetten at hp.com (douglas_gennetten@hp.com) Date: Thu Jun 24 15:27:43 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] thanks! 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This message, together with any attachments, is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you think you have received this message in error, please advise the sender and then delete this message and any attachments immediately. From JanMacKenzie at dow.com Thu Jun 24 15:01:09 2004 From: JanMacKenzie at dow.com (MacKenzie, Jan) Date: Thu Jun 24 16:46:46 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes Message-ID: <850A9A0A7736704180E8F152FB72805EBFB4DB@USMDLMDOWM041.dow.com> I have setup and trained SpamBayes and I just love it!. Thanks. Just wanted to ask you a question -- I'm trying to protect all the training I have put into this tool in case I have to uninstall/reinstall. I see a file called: C:\Documents and Settings\U913350\Application Data\SpamBayes\Dow Mail.ini If I backup this file and then if I'm forced to re-configure SpamBayes (I've had this happen a couple of times now) can I copy this file back over to this location to restore my "training" data? Thanks and regards, Jan MacKenzie N.A. Field Sales System Support __________________________ Phone (519) 336-0990 Cell phone (519) 383-9586 Fax (519) 336-5100 e-mail: janmackenzie@dow.com From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Jun 24 19:51:38 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Jun 24 19:51:47 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Question.... In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306E92682@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677FC4@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Do you have an edition that works on an Exchange server? I am running > Windows 2003 Server, and have not downloaded a version as of yet. You could try looking at the server side page: You should be able to slot SpamBayes in somehow, but exactly how will depend on your setup. If you do manage, then please consider contributing any notes that might be helpful to people doing this in the future - we would really appreciate it. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Jun 24 19:53:41 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Jun 24 19:53:49 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] starting over In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306E926A6@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677FC5@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Help! How do I clear out spambayes to retrain from scratch? If you are using the Outlook plug-in, then you go to the Training tab of the SpamBayes Manager dialog and do whatever initial training you want (two empty directories if you want none), ensuring you have the "rebuild database from scratch" box ticked. If you are using sb_server or sb_imapfilter, then you delete the two database files. These are probably called hammie.db and spambayes.messageinfo.db, but your configuration page would tell you for sure. If you're using sb_filter, then you delete the one database file (probably .hammiedb, but your configuration file would tell you for sure). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Jun 24 19:54:54 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Jun 24 19:55:00 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306E926BE@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677FC6@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I am interested in installing SpamBayes on my PC I am using Eudora > as my mail program, is it compatible with Eudora and I am > running XP Pro with the Sevice Pack 1, Please see FAQs 2.2 and 2.3: Basically: yes, and just download the installer and go from there. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From GDT4600 at MSN.COM Thu Jun 24 20:11:53 2004 From: GDT4600 at MSN.COM (Gary Tenneboe) Date: Thu Jun 24 20:12:19 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] question? Message-ID: <40DB6DC9.000003.03708@GARYTENNEBOE> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 278 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040624/14b00ad1/attachment.gif -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 5412 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040624/14b00ad1/attachment.jpe From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Jun 24 22:23:01 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Jun 24 22:23:08 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Is this coming from Spambayes? In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306E928EF@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C029C@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I inadvertantly put a good email into bad and didn't > catch it, until I realized that I was not getting > mail from an important listserv. So, I ended up > uninstalling Spambayes and hopefuly deleting my > training file. Uninstalling does not (deliberately) delete your training file. It looks like you're using Outlook, so this applies to that - if you're not, let us know and we'll correct this information. You can correct misclassification if you still have the misclassified message. Just find it in your spam folder, select it, and click the "Recover from Spam" button. All the appropriate (re)training will be done. If you want to start from scratch, just open up the SpamBayes Manager dialog, click the Training tab, and tick the "rebuild database from scratch" box. Then do whatever initial training (just two empty folders if you really want none at all) you want to do. All the files will be taken care of appropriately. > I am getting this junk with Spambayes in the subject > line. This is spam coming through the spambayes mailing list. If you want to know why we don't do anything about this, please read FAQ 5.8: > Plus I'm getting returned emails that I didn't send, > which I have not opened. Unfortunately, this is pretty common these days. Basically, a spammer uses your (anyone's) address instead of their own as the reply address and so bounce messages come your way. It's growing to be as much of a problem as it spam itself. SpamBayes can learn to filter this out as spam as well, although it's extremely difficult (for spambayes or a human) to distinguish between legitimate bounces and others. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Jun 24 22:24:32 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Jun 24 22:24:47 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Outlook add-in In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306E92831@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677FCD@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Since i have been using the V1.01rc1, Outlook always > uses 95-96% of the processor. I saw the same effect > with Microsoft Access (event without any database opened), > although the machine is still responsive. Is something wrong ? Probably. If you're seeing it with Outlook and Access, though, it's not SpamBayes (we don't touch Access at all). The problem could be with Office or elsewhere. I'd suggest running a virus check, Windows update, the various Office automatic checks and seeing how that goes. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Jun 24 22:26:54 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Jun 24 22:27:02 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Tool bar doesnt appear In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306E92740@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677FCE@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I have installed and reinstalled the program > but the toolbar still wont appear. Please send us a copy of your log files. The troubleshooting guide explains where to find these. The problem is probably that the plug-in isn't installed or is disabled, which would explain why the toolbar hasn't appeared. The various help points (in the troubleshooting guide, for example) about that might help. A copy of the troubleshooting guide is installed with the plug-in (normally accessible via the toolbar, but also just by looking in the folder that you installed SpamBayes into), or is available on the website: =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Jun 24 22:28:54 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Jun 24 22:29:03 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] HELP with Outlook In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306E92706@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677FCF@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I have loaded and reloaded Spambayes every day. > Every day I log-in, and my mailbox does not appear > in Spambayes. I have 4 mailboxes in my Outlook, > two of which I want to utilize SB for. 3 of my four > mailboxes show up as a "selection" and the most > important one (mine...and the primary one for this > outlook account) does not. Eveyr morning I get a > message that says I need to reconfigure my Spambayes, > and every morning I go to do that and my mailbox > fails to show up as a selection to be "scanned" for > spam. So, I unload the program and reinstall it. > Still, no mailbox for me. Please send us a copy of your most recent log file (the troubleshooting guide explains where to find these). Are these mailboxes on an Exchange server, IMAP, Hotmail, or local pst files? =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Jun 24 22:30:25 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Jun 24 22:30:36 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] question In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306E926F1@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677FD0@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Trying to see when spam is in your Junk E-Mail, > can you delete them from the folder. I am accumulating > and want to delete. Can I? Do I loose any AI? Please see FAQ 3.16: > Sent this request last week but didn't hear from you. The python.org mail server has been very stressed over the past few days, which is probably why. Simple questions like this (where the answer points to a FAQ) tend to be answered very quickly. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Jun 24 22:32:28 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Jun 24 22:32:37 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] how to not get any spam email In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306E92674@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677FD1@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Hi can you please help me? I am getting alot of > Spam emails on my out look express account. How can > I stop all Spam email or even block them? If you install SpamBayes, it will check your email as you download it and mark the ones that it thinks are spam (based on training that you give it). You can then have Outlook Express move these messages to a separate folder for review & deletion. You can download SpamBayes from the website: =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Thu Jun 24 22:36:49 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Thu Jun 24 22:36:55 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem restoring databases In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306E9269E@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677FD2@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Your directions state to back up the data folder (i.e. all > files in that data folder) and just copy it back when I > re-install outlook w/Spambayes. That should work. > It sounds pretty straightforward except when I do that it > never works! What are the exact steps one needs to take when > installing a fresh Outlook/Spambayes and restoring a prior > database? I must be doing something wrong. Are you definitely copying two files called "default_bayes_database.db" and "default_messageinfo.db"? (They hold all the training data). Do they definitely end up in the same folder? The log file says exactly where these are, if that helps. What size are these files? When it doesn't work and you start training again, do the files that you've copied get replaced, or stay the same? (Maybe the db's are being put somewhere else?) What size are the files after Outlook fails to find them? > Spambayes first asks if this is the first time it is being > used. If I install the database, it should already know > there is data out there. Yes, if you get the wizard popping up, then it's definitely not finding the database files. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From NTSERVER001-SA at BarneyAndBarney.com Thu Jun 24 23:02:59 2004 From: NTSERVER001-SA at BarneyAndBarney.com (System Attendant) Date: Thu Jun 24 23:18:37 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] ScanMail Message: To Recipient virus found or matched file blocki ng setting. Message-ID: ScanMail for Microsoft Exchange has taken action on the message, please refer to the contents of this message for further details. Sender = nhayes_ul@email.cz Recipient(s) = spambayes@python.org Subject = [Spambayes] Re: approved Scanning Time = 06/24/2004 20:02:58 Engine/Pattern = 7.000-1004/915 Action on message: The attachment file.zip contained WORM_NETSKY.P virus. ScanMail has taken the Deleted action. Warning, ScanMail has detected a virus in an email sent to you. This message, together with any attachments, is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you think you have received this message in error, please advise the sender and then delete this message and any attachments immediately. From NTSERVER001-SA at BarneyAndBarney.com Thu Jun 24 23:42:17 2004 From: NTSERVER001-SA at BarneyAndBarney.com (System Attendant) Date: Thu Jun 24 23:42:24 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] ScanMail Message: To Recipient virus found or matched file blocki ng setting. Message-ID: ScanMail for Microsoft Exchange has taken action on the message, please refer to the contents of this message for further details. Sender = b003302@img.11th.com Recipient(s) = spambayes@python.org Subject = [Spambayes] Re: Developement Scanning Time = 06/24/2004 20:42:16 Engine/Pattern = 7.000-1004/915 Action on message: The attachment document09.zip contained WORM_NETSKY.P virus. ScanMail has taken the Deleted action. Warning, ScanMail has detected a virus in an email sent to you. This message, together with any attachments, is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you think you have received this message in error, please advise the sender and then delete this message and any attachments immediately. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jun 25 00:57:08 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Jun 25 00:57:16 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Grisoft AVG Universal E-mail Scanner -> Spambayes -> Netscape Messenger 4.79 In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306E92983@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C029E@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > THIS time when I set up the AVG POP3 server/proxy it > defaulted to 5200 instead of 5110 which it seemed to be > insisting on last time I tried ?? dunno, but I left it at > 5200, then configured Spambayes to use '127.0.0.1:5200', > saved the change and then tried the 'Get' mail button in > Netscape. IT WORKED! I got a load of mail from 'From: AVG > for Email ', all saying my tests from my > earlier attempts had failed. And my first test message came > in with both the Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > and the Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > messages. (and of course the Spambayes headers). I think I'll write up something about doing this as a FAQ. Certainly questions about chaining together POP3 proxies (typically SpamBayes + a virus checker of some description) is relatively common. > Yes. I think I probably did have two instances running. The > tray icon defaults to using netscape navigator and as per an > earlier email, the localhost:8880 is U-G-L-Y in Netscape. Yes, that's still on the to-do list. Real work has me busy at the moment... :) =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From NTSERVER001-SA at BarneyAndBarney.com Fri Jun 25 01:13:51 2004 From: NTSERVER001-SA at BarneyAndBarney.com (System Attendant) Date: Fri Jun 25 01:42:49 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] ScanMail Message: To Recipient virus found or matched file blocki ng setting. Message-ID: ScanMail for Microsoft Exchange has taken action on the message, please refer to the contents of this message for further details. Sender = douglas_gennetten@hp.com Recipient(s) = spambayes@python.org Subject = [Spambayes] thanks! Scanning Time = 06/24/2004 22:13:50 Engine/Pattern = 7.000-1004/915 Action on message: The attachment document.zip contained WORM_NETSKY.P virus. ScanMail has taken the Deleted action. Warning, ScanMail has detected a virus in an email sent to you. This message, together with any attachments, is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you think you have received this message in error, please advise the sender and then delete this message and any attachments immediately. From don.o_doherty at ntlworld.com Fri Jun 25 03:03:00 2004 From: don.o_doherty at ntlworld.com (Don O'Doherty) Date: Fri Jun 25 03:03:12 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] please protect me against unwanted porn Message-ID: <000801c45a82$741cf680$bf3b6251@don4y8ukco7qme> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040625/5473b400/attachment.html From michael at melzer-online.de Fri Jun 25 04:16:19 2004 From: michael at melzer-online.de (Michael Melzer) Date: Fri Jun 25 04:16:40 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Execute test suite Message-ID: Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 14890 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040625/d6fdd32a/attachment-0001.jpe From merrilyhypothesizer at optonline.net Fri Jun 25 06:53:08 2004 From: merrilyhypothesizer at optonline.net (George Marcus) Date: Fri Jun 25 06:50:35 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] D0CTOR A|pproved C1AL-IS & LEV1-TRA Wil1 E~nlarge Your P-e-n-I-s in 1 Week! Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040625/14683e15/attachment.html From Calacci at champlain.edu Fri Jun 25 08:45:49 2004 From: Calacci at champlain.edu (Calacci, Bridget) Date: Fri Jun 25 08:45:55 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] HELP with Outlook Message-ID: <25CB9D277179EC41B2CE2C1B90437D79047838@CC-EMAIL.champlain.edu> Hi Tony, Following is the log-in file (spambayes4.log was it's name) you requested. My email is on our own server here at the College I work at and it's an exchange server. The mailbox that Spambayes keeps "losing" is Mailbox - Calacci. It keeps the online one, as well as the two others that I don't have Spambayes search in. Weird. Thanks for any help you can give me. Bridget Loaded bayes database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\calacci\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db' Loaded message database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\calacci\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db' Bayes database initialized with 0 spam and 0 good messages SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0rc1 (May 2004) starting (with engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004)) on Windows 5.1.2600 (Service Pack 1) using Python 2.3.3 (#51, Feb 13 2004, 14:39:56) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] *** SpamBayes is NOT enabled, so will not filter incoming mail. *** GetNextPage with current 0 IDD_WIZARD_WELCOME GetNextPage with current 5 IDD_WIZARD_TRAINING_IS_IMPORTANT GetNextPage with current 1 IDD_WIZARD_FOLDERS_WATCH GetNextPage with current 2 IDD_WIZARD_FOLDERS_REST Wizard Done! Saving wizard changes Saving configuration -> C:\Documents and Settings\calacci\Application Data\SpamBayes\Default Outlook Profile.ini Saving configuration -> C:\Documents and Settings\calacci\Application Data\SpamBayes\Default Outlook Profile.ini SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - online@champlain.edu/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - Calacci, Bridget/Inbox' Folder 'Mailbox - Calacci, Bridget/Junk E-Mail' has no field named 'Spam' - creating SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Mailbox - Calacci, Bridget/Junk E-Mail' Folder 'Mailbox - Calacci, Bridget/Junk Suspects' has no field named 'Spam' - creating Message '????(????? ??? ???????)' in 'Mailbox - online@champlain.edu/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Unsure' Message 'Free to a good home: HP #25 (51625a) Tri-Color Cartridge' in 'Mailbox - Calacci, Bridget/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Unsure' Message 'Re: Well?' in 'Mailbox - Calacci, Bridget/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Unsure' Message 'Re: FW: Food Labeling Legislation' in 'Mailbox - Calacci, Bridget/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Unsure' Recovering to folder 'Inbox' and ham training message 'Free to a good home: HP #25 (51625a) Tri-Color Cartridge' - Training on message 'Free to a good home: HP #25 (51625a) Tri-Color Cartridge' in 'Mailbox - Calacci, Bridget/Junk Suspects - trained as good Moving and spam training message '????(????? ??? ???????)' - Training on message '????(????? ??? ???????)' in 'Mailbox - Calacci, Bridget/Junk Suspects - trained as spam Recovering to folder 'Inbox' and ham training message 'Re: Well?' - Training on message 'Re: Well?' in 'Mailbox - Calacci, Bridget/Junk Suspects - trained as good Recovering to folder 'Inbox' and ham training message 'Re: FW: Food Labeling Legislation' - Training on message 'Re: FW: Food Labeling Legislation' in 'Mailbox - Calacci, Bridget/Junk Suspects - trained as good Message 'What is your Car Worth? Trade Your Car in Here.' in 'Mailbox - Calacci, Bridget/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Unsure' Message '(????)????????+????????+????CD+??????..????~????@ ' in 'Mailbox - online@champlain.edu/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Unsure' Moving and spam training message '(????)????????+????????+????CD+??????..????~????@ ' - Training on message '(????)????????+????????+????CD+??????..????~????@ ' in 'Mailbox - Calacci, Bridget/Junk Suspects - trained as spam Moving and spam training message 'What is your Car Worth? Trade Your Car in Here.' - Training on message 'What is your Car Worth? Trade Your Car in Here.' in 'Mailbox - Calacci, Bridget/Junk Suspects - trained as spam Message '(????) ?????????? ????????&???????? ?????? ????????.@,.@ q' in 'Mailbox - online@champlain.edu/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' Message 'Spread the love and receive $5 off' in 'Mailbox - Calacci, Bridget/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message 'Reminder VVN: Please Preregister' in 'Mailbox - Calacci, Bridget/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message 'access to class' in 'Mailbox - Calacci, Bridget/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message 'RE: access to class' in 'Mailbox - Calacci, Bridget/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message 'RE: access to class' in 'Mailbox - Calacci, Bridget/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message 'Boise Order Confirmation' in 'Mailbox - Calacci, Bridget/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message '**???????? ???????? ARS ????** pnqq' in 'Mailbox - online@champlain.edu/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' Message 'TRUEBeginnings: Find your soul mate' in 'Mailbox - Calacci, Bridget/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Unsure' Moving and spam training message 'TRUEBeginnings: Find your soul mate' - Training on message 'TRUEBeginnings: Find your soul mate' in 'Mailbox - Calacci, Bridget/Junk Suspects - trained as spam Message 'RE: Student Account' in 'Mailbox - Calacci, Bridget/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message 'FW: Rte. 127 & North St.' in 'Mailbox - Calacci, Bridget/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message 'Schedule and other details' in 'Mailbox - Calacci, Bridget/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message '[CC-Spam] CBSI just released exciting news to traders' in 'Mailbox - Calacci, Bridget/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message '[CC-Spam] turnoff' in 'Mailbox - online@champlain.edu/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message '[CC-Spam] cybernetic' in 'Mailbox - Calacci, Bridget/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message 'Carib Cruise $249, Orlando Vacation w/Air $298, Vegas $39 -- Book Now' in 'Mailbox - Calacci, Bridget/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Unsure' Message '??????????!3000?????????????????? b' in 'Mailbox - online@champlain.edu/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' Message 'Your Coldplay Featured Selection is here!' in 'Mailbox - Calacci, Bridget/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Unsure' Message '??????????! ????????????????! ?????????? qv' in 'Mailbox - online@champlain.edu/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' Message 'RE: access to class' in 'Mailbox - Calacci, Bridget/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message 'RE: Rte. 127 & North St.' in 'Mailbox - Calacci, Bridget/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Recovering to folder 'Inbox' and ham training message 'Your Coldplay Featured Selection is here!' - Training on message 'Your Coldplay Featured Selection is here!' in 'Mailbox - Calacci, Bridget/Junk Suspects - trained as good Moving and spam training message 'Carib Cruise $249, Orlando Vacation w/Air $298, Vegas $39 -- Book Now' - Training on message 'Carib Cruise $249, Orlando Vacation w/Air $298, Vegas $39 -- Book Now' in 'Mailbox - Calacci, Bridget/Junk Suspects - trained as spam Moving and spam training message '[CC-Spam] turnoff' - Training on message '[CC-Spam] turnoff' in 'Mailbox - online@champlain.edu/Inbox - trained as spam Message 'Oprah's Secret Diet? ' in 'Mailbox - Calacci, Bridget/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Unsure' Moving and spam training message 'Oprah's Secret Diet? ' - Training on message 'Oprah's Secret Diet? ' in 'Mailbox - Calacci, Bridget/Junk Suspects - trained as spam Message '(????) ?????? ???????? ?????? ?????? ???? ????????.@ aqyqsfcz' in 'Mailbox - online@champlain.edu/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' Message '[CC-Spam] Glory of God' in 'Mailbox - Calacci, Bridget/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' Message 'RE: third party streaming discussion' in 'Mailbox - Calacci, Bridget/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message '?????????????? ????????????(5000????) ng uuexmt' in 'Mailbox - online@champlain.edu/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' Message 'Bridget, You've had 13 Updates in the Past Year' in 'Mailbox - Calacci, Bridget/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message 'Banned: Feds Block DVD Software. We still have it!' in 'Mailbox - Calacci, Bridget/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Yes' Message '[USASillyYaks] Re: Stay Gluten FILLED while testing!!' in 'Mailbox - Calacci, Bridget/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message '[CC-Spam] Color Business Cards for just the Cost of Shipping' in 'Mailbox - Calacci, Bridget/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Moving and spam training message '[CC-Spam] Color Business Cards for just the Cost of Shipping' - Training on message '[CC-Spam] Color Business Cards for just the Cost of Shipping' in 'Mailbox - Calacci, Bridget/Inbox - trained as spam Message 'Re: [USASillyYaks] Re: Stay Gluten FILLED while testing!!' in 'Mailbox - Calacci, Bridget/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message 'RE: Student access issue with courses' in 'Mailbox - Calacci, Bridget/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message 'RE: Student access issue with courses' in 'Mailbox - Calacci, Bridget/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' Message 'Mailroom closed on Friday' in 'Mailbox - Calacci, Bridget/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'No' SpamBayes - Disconnecting from Outlook SpamBayes has processed 40 messages - 22 (55%) good, 8 (20%) spam and 10 (25%) unsure 4 message(s) were manually classified as good (with 0 being false positives) 8 message(s) were manually classified as spam (with 3 being false negatives) Addin terminating: 2 COM client and 2 COM servers exist. -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 10:29 PM To: Calacci, Bridget; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] HELP with Outlook > I have loaded and reloaded Spambayes every day. > Every day I log-in, and my mailbox does not appear > in Spambayes. I have 4 mailboxes in my Outlook, > two of which I want to utilize SB for. 3 of my four > mailboxes show up as a "selection" and the most > important one (mine...and the primary one for this > outlook account) does not. Eveyr morning I get a > message that says I need to reconfigure my Spambayes, > and every morning I go to do that and my mailbox > fails to show up as a selection to be "scanned" for > spam. So, I unload the program and reinstall it. > Still, no mailbox for me. Please send us a copy of your most recent log file (the troubleshooting guide explains where to find these). Are these mailboxes on an Exchange server, IMAP, Hotmail, or local pst files? =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From edmaxjr at houston.rr.com Fri Jun 25 09:48:11 2004 From: edmaxjr at houston.rr.com (Ed Max) Date: Fri Jun 25 09:48:05 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] installing Message-ID: <000e01c45abb$0e85cb10$6501a8c0@maxcomputer1> I have downloaded your program and it doesn't seem to install. If I go to C:\program files\Spambayes the only things that are there are "about Spambayes" and "troubleshooting guide" There is no executable file to install it as far as I can see. I am an average user. maybe a little above. Am I doing something wrong. I see no new dropdown menu in my Outlook Express. Thank you. Edmaxjr@houston.rr.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040625/93f0eecc/attachment.html From kennypitt at hotmail.com Fri Jun 25 09:47:29 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Fri Jun 25 09:49:20 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Execute test suite In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 14890 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040625/9c7b0de1/attachment.jpe From kennypitt at hotmail.com Fri Jun 25 10:08:07 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Fri Jun 25 10:09:58 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes In-Reply-To: <850A9A0A7736704180E8F152FB72805EBFB4DB@USMDLMDOWM041.dow.com> Message-ID: MacKenzie, Jan wrote: > Just wanted to ask you a question -- I'm trying to protect all the > training I have put into this tool in case I have to > uninstall/reinstall. I see a file called: > > C:\Documents and Settings\U913350\Application Data\SpamBayes\Dow > Mail.ini > > If I backup this file and then if I'm forced to re-configure > SpamBayes (I've had this happen a couple of times now) can I copy > this file back over to this location to restore my "training" data? This file only stores some configuration options. In the same directory you should find several other files including "default_bayes_database.db" and "default_message_database.db" that contain the actual training data. You should backup all the files in this directory and restore them if you have to reformat your hard drive and reinstall Windows. On the other hand, if you are just uninstalling and reinstalling SpamBayes then it should not remove your training data, so you shouldn't have to manually restore anything (but it's always a good idea to have the backup just in case ). -- Kenny Pitt From Symantec_AntiVirus_for_SMTP_Gateways at baycare.org Fri Jun 25 10:50:03 2004 From: Symantec_AntiVirus_for_SMTP_Gateways at baycare.org (Symantec_AntiVirus_for_SMTP_Gateways@baycare.org) Date: Fri Jun 25 10:47:16 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Policy Violation Message-ID: The following message sent by this account has violated system policy: From: spambayes@python.org To: marty.matula@baycare.org Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 10:49:15 -0400 Subject: Mail Delivery (failure marty.matula@baycare.org) The following violations were detected: --- Scan information follows --- Virus Name: W32.Netsky.P@mm!enc File Attachment: M2004062510491525912.mes Attachment Status: infected Virus Name: W32.Netsky.P@mm File Attachment: message.scr Attachment Status: deleted --- File name Block information follows --- File Attachment: M2004062510491525912.mes/message.scr Matching file name: *.scr --- Subject Block information follows --- Subject: Mail Delivery (failure marty.matula@baycare.org) Matching Subject: *Mail Delivery* From michael at kimballpottery.com Fri Jun 25 11:03:26 2004 From: michael at kimballpottery.com (Michael Kimball) Date: Fri Jun 25 11:06:12 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Grisoft AVG Universal E-mail Scanner -> Spambayes -> Netscape Messenger 4.79 References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C029E@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <40DC3EBE.AC6F7DD3@kimballpottery.com> Tony Meyer wrote: > > > > > earlier email, the localhost:8880 is U-G-L-Y in Netscape. > > Yes, that's still on the to-do list. Real work has me busy at the moment... > :) > > =Tony Meyer Unless you have knowledge that a large number of Spambayes users are on Netscape Messenger 4.79 (Netscape 7 may have better rendering) I'd drop it to the bottom of your list. I took a kick at the can and got nowhere. I recall an earlier email where you said the page is generated on the fly. I suspect your generator would have to do some browser sniffing and generate an entirely different page depending on the browser. Hmmm. In this case it would probably have to do 'mail-client sniffing'. As long as I am using Netscape Messenger, any HTML is opened in Netscape Navigator, regardless of what the system's 'default' browser is. Unless you can add a configuration parameter like [sbtraybrowser] 8880_display:"C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe" "http://localhost:8880/home" Of course that would require the NS4.79 users to also have another browser like firefox. I don't know if you have enough users of still other browsers that don't render that page well. PROBABLY most of the current browsers will display it properly. -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.710 / Virus Database: 466 - Release Date: 6/23/2004 From tholland at oedinc.com Fri Jun 25 11:46:16 2004 From: tholland at oedinc.com (Todd Holland) Date: Fri Jun 25 11:46:22 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Message-ID: <1410BC96598C2746BD03C197F5A857D32BBE77@oedmail.oedinc.com> I have had spambayes working on 5 or 6 WXPP desktops at work and they work great. We run Outlook XP from OfficeXP and run Exchange 2003 on a Server2003 box. I had one of our outside salespeople call about spam and I passed onto him this website to download. He installed it on his home computer and runs WXPP outlook to a Pop3. After install he cannot send e-mail any more. He receives email ok but the send process errors out. He uninstalled spambayes and it didn't fix. He then used WXPP restore to a restore point and it still will not send mail. Is there any known bug or setting we maybe missing? Thank You, Todd Holland Operations Manager Outdoor Equipment Distributors, Inc. Main 919-876-6937 Fax 919-850-9163 DID 919-863-6950 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040625/537868f0/attachment.html From RichA at timeamerica.com Fri Jun 25 12:51:51 2004 From: RichA at timeamerica.com (Rich Alger) Date: Fri Jun 25 12:52:01 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] FAILED to add the toolbar item 'SpamBayesCommand.Manager' - (-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.' Message-ID: <5642B638DBEF6A4DBF9E9BC68144866D53611F@tamail1.timeamerica.com> I recently upgraded from OL2000 to OL2003. Afterward I installed spambayes-1.0rc1.exe. I am using WinXP with the latest critical updates. Mail is still being filtered but I get a fatal exception when I try to click on the spambayes buttons in Outlook. I have attached pictures of the error dialogs as well as the spambayes log. I appreciate your assistance, Rich Alger Time America, Inc. a Vitrix company http://www.timeamerica.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: OLSpambayesexceptionDialog2.gif Type: image/gif Size: 13223 bytes Desc: OLSpambayesexceptionDialog2.gif Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040625/62e8e634/OLSpambayesexceptionDialog2.gif -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: OLSpambayesexceptionDialog.gif Type: image/gif Size: 10325 bytes Desc: OLSpambayesexceptionDialog.gif Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040625/62e8e634/OLSpambayesexceptionDialog.gif -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: spambayes1.log Type: application/octet-stream Size: 1058 bytes Desc: spambayes1.log Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040625/62e8e634/spambayes1.obj From kennypitt at hotmail.com Fri Jun 25 13:17:54 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Fri Jun 25 13:19:46 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] question? In-Reply-To: <40DB6DC9.000003.03708@GARYTENNEBOE> Message-ID: Gary Tenneboe wrote: > i don't use outlook i didn't like the way it functioned so i use > incredimail. my email comes from msn and hotmail. my question is this > will spambayes work for me? if it will what programs that you have do > i need to download for it to work? I don't know much about IncrediMail so I don't know if it allows you to access MSN and Hotmail directly via their HTTP mail interface. SpamBayes has a mode that supports POP3 mail accounts, but does not support Web/HTTP mail access. If you are using POP3 to access your mail then you should run the SpamBayes installer and choose the "Server/proxy application" option. This version of SpamBayes is configured and trained via a Web browser interface and does not integrate directly into your mail client, but it is just as effective at identifying spam. You'll need to configure the SpamBayes proxy to talk to your mail server, and then configure IncrediMail to retrieve mail from the SpamBayes proxy instead of directly from the mail server (usually server "localhost" and port 110). You'll also need to configure some rules in IncrediMail to move Spam and Unsure messages to separate folders because SpamBayes can't do that automatically. I'm afraid I can't give you any details about setting this up in IncrediMail, but maybe there are some other IncrediMail users out there who have done it already and can provide more info. -- Kenny Pitt From kennypitt at hotmail.com Fri Jun 25 13:17:55 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Fri Jun 25 13:19:55 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] POP Account Problem In-Reply-To: <20040622142055.GA51712@mail26g.sbc-webhosting.com> Message-ID: I assume you are using the Outlook add-in, then, yes? The Outlook add-in checks mail based on notifications from Outlook that a message has been added to the Inbox folder. It does not know anything about the POP interface or the settings that Outlook uses to access the POP server, and has no code to change the Outlook settings in any way. Are you absolutely certain that this problem is caused by SpamBayes, e.g. does the problem always go away if you uninstall SpamBayes? Are you using any other Outlook add-ins or extensions? If you find that the problem only occurs while SpamBayes is installed, please send us a copy of your SpamBayes log files so that we can get more information (the Troubleshooting Guide explains how to find them). -- Kenny Pitt _____ From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Jason Weamer Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 2:21 PM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] POP Account Problem We have Spambayes installed and running here on Windows XP machines, with Outlook 2000-2003. We are using POP accounts that are obviously being filtered through Spambayes, and it is altering the POP account settings which after a week throws an error. Our usual pop/smtp settings are precisionoffset.net, and the user is the account name, however, spambayes changes the incoming pop to "localhost", and changes the user name to "accountname/mail.precisionoffset.net", which then throws an error. It appears that this happens every week, and it is my suspicion that it may have something to do with the ip's renewing the lease each week. Please help as this is a problem for us, and we very much appreciate this program. It has helped us tremendously. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040625/ee7c6957/attachment.html From kennypitt at hotmail.com Fri Jun 25 13:17:55 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Fri Jun 25 13:20:00 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] installing In-Reply-To: <000e01c45abb$0e85cb10$6501a8c0@maxcomputer1> Message-ID: Ed Max wrote: > I have downloaded your program and it doesn't seem to install. If I go > to C:\program files\Spambayes the only things that are there are "about > Spambayes" and "troubleshooting guide" There is no executable file to > install it as far as I can see. I assume you downloaded and ran the "spambayes-1.0rc1.exe" installation program from the Web site? That should have installed everything. Did you get any error messages or anything from the installation wizard? Are you trying to install from an account that does not have Administrator rights? > I see no new dropdown menu in my Outlook Express. The SpamBayes add-in for *Outlook* adds a toolbar and dropdown, but *Outlook* and *Outlook Express* are entirely different programs despite the similar names. For Outlook Express, SpamBayes runs as a separate program and is configured and trained via a Web browser interface. FAQ 2.1 has a little more info on setting up SpamBayes with Outlook Express. http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/faq.html#does-spambayes-work-with-outlook-e xpress or http://tinyurl.com/2s65e The following message from the mailing list archive may also provide some additional info. http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/2004-March/011652.html or http://tinyurl.com/2bagg -- Kenny Pitt From Rich at RBarger.com Fri Jun 25 17:08:04 2004 From: Rich at RBarger.com (Richard B Barger ABC APR) Date: Fri Jun 25 17:08:36 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Revising the FAQs - Was: Setting up Outlook Express rules References: Message-ID: <40DC9434.2DE8863C@RBarger.com> Thanks for good info, Kenny. I had missed the March post you referenced. So why don't you or someone revise the FAQs to include precisely the Outlook Express answer you gave? (And the one from today about IncrediMail?) And add a few comments on what the user should consider when revising it for a different mail client, like Netscape. I had to read and re-read the current FAQs before I could figure out which parts applied only to Outlook and which parts applied to other mail clients or source code users or people under 5'7" with blue eyes ... Of course, I'm probably just slow. Better idea: Actually, it would help the uninitiated if you had one stream of instructions for Outlook users, another complete set (similar but different) for POP3 users, another for IMAP users, and another for anyone who runs from source code. The user would just go to the link for the complete set of instructions/FAQs for his own environment. Right now, the explanations are completely intermixed. This may be fine for you developers, but I think the intermixing makes the FAQs confusing. Your section on Web/HTTP mail access would be very brief: Sorry; we don't do this. I'd offer to help with a rewrite, but my frustration level is high: I don't >understand< the differences well enough to know where to begin; it needs to be done by someone who understands and has experience with the program. >Successful< "experience" would be an asset. Cheers! Rich Barger --- Kenny Pitt wrote: > zeretul@comcast.net wrote: > > How should I set up my rule editor to filter Spam into my deleted folder. > > Here is a link to a reply that I sent to an earlier question, and I think it > may contain the information you need. If not, please reply back to the list > and we can provide further details. > > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/2004-March/011652.html > > -- > Kenny Pitt > From me-shell at swellwomen.com Fri Jun 25 17:21:40 2004 From: me-shell at swellwomen.com (Me-Shell Barnas) Date: Fri Jun 25 17:22:03 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Junk folder has disappeared Message-ID: <004101c45afa$6b3a4040$6401a8c0@MELAPTOP> Aloha and greetings, I just downloaded your wonderful program a few days ago and it has been working wonderfully. However, today I noticed that I had the Junk Suspects folder in my INBox but the Junk E-Mail folder has disappeared. My outlook stated that I had mail in my box but there wasn't any mail in my inbox.I'm guessing it was in the Junk E-Mail folder which is no where to be found. Help! Many Blissings, Me-Shell Barnas, R.Y.T. Founder Fall 2004: Experience 1: Nov. 10th-Nov. 14th, 2004 Experience 2: Nov. 14th-Nov.20th, 2004 Experience 3: Nov. 21st-Nov. 27th, 2004 **Open to SwellMates, SwellWomen and SwellMen** **Experience 3 is an intermediate Surf Experience, opened to women, men and couples, including all levels of Yoga on Maui's North Shore with limited booking (6-10 Max). Participants must have 1 to 2 years or more of prior surfing experience and must be confident ocean swimmers.** http://www.swellwomen.com 800.399.MAUI (6284) TOLL FREE 808.579.8211 Local ph 808.579.9016 Fax NEW THIS FALL!!! SwellWomen is proud to introduce "SwellMates" an Experience for Couples who follow their Bliss. SwellWomen respects your privacy and is interested in sending out e-mails to individuals who are subscribers. If you would like to unsubscribe to our list, please hit reply and type unsubscribe and or call 1.808.579.8211 with your request. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040625/7a6b5762/attachment.html From Robert.Mezzone at PJSolomon.Com Fri Jun 25 17:29:04 2004 From: Robert.Mezzone at PJSolomon.Com (Robert Mezzone) Date: Fri Jun 25 17:29:13 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Junk folder has disappeared Message-ID: <1254A68F4903D411B24800508B1220E90629EDD2@solomon1.pjsc.internal> Did you accidently move it so it's under another folder, maybe even the delete items folder. If you can't find it, manually recreate it and run the Spambayes manager to point to the new folder. Hth. Robert -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org To: spambayes@python.org Sent: Fri Jun 25 17:21:40 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Junk folder has disappeared Aloha and greetings, I just downloaded your wonderful program a few days ago and it has been working wonderfully. However, today I noticed that I had the Junk Suspects folder in my INBox but the Junk E-Mail folder has disappeared. My outlook stated that I had mail in my box but there wasn't any mail in my inbox...I'm guessing it was in the Junk E-Mail folder which is no where to be found. Help! Many Blissings, Me-Shell Barnas, R.Y.T. Founder Fall 2004: Experience 1: Nov. 10th-Nov. 14th, 2004 Experience 2: Nov. 14th-Nov.20th, 2004 Experience 3: Nov. 21st-Nov. 27th, 2004 **Open to SwellMates, SwellWomen and SwellMen** **Experience 3 is an intermediate Surf Experience, opened to women, men and couples, including all levels of Yoga on Maui's North Shore with limited booking (6-10 Max). Participants must have 1 to 2 years or more of prior surfing experience and must be confident ocean swimmers.** http://www.swellwomen.com 800.399.MAUI (6284) TOLL FREE 808.579.8211 Local ph 808.579.9016 Fax NEW THIS FALL!!! SwellWomen is proud to introduce "SwellMates" an Experience for Couples who follow their Bliss. SwellWomen respects your privacy and is interested in sending out e-mails to individuals who are subscribers. If you would like to unsubscribe to our list, please hit reply and type unsubscribe and or call 1.808.579.8211 with your request. From Rich at RBarger.com Fri Jun 25 19:05:50 2004 From: Rich at RBarger.com (Richard B Barger ABC APR) Date: Fri Jun 25 19:06:06 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Oops! Revising the FAQs - was Setting Up Outlook Express rules References: <40DC9434.2DE8863C@RBarger.com> Message-ID: <40DCAFCE.F86CBFDF@RBarger.com> I messed up the subject and other header stuff when I sent this msg the first time. See, I told you my brain was messed up by all this spam! Sorry for the dupe. Rich Barger > Thanks for good info, Kenny. I had missed the March post you referenced. > > So why don't you or someone revise the FAQs to include precisely the Outlook > Express answer you gave? (And the one from today about IncrediMail?) And add a > few comments on what the user should consider when revising it for a different > mail client, like Netscape. > > I had to read and re-read the current FAQs before I could figure out which parts > applied only to Outlook and which parts applied to other mail clients or source > code users or people under 5'7" with blue eyes ... > > Of course, I'm probably just slow. > > Better idea: Actually, it would help the uninitiated if you had one stream of > instructions for Outlook users, another complete set (similar but different) for > POP3 users, another for IMAP users, and another for anyone who runs from source > code. The user would just go to the link for the complete set of > instructions/FAQs for his own environment. Right now, the explanations are > completely intermixed. This may be fine for you developers, but I think the > intermixing makes the FAQs confusing. > > Your section on Web/HTTP mail access would be very brief: Sorry; we don't do > this. > > I'd offer to help with a rewrite, but my frustration level is high: I don't > >understand< the differences well enough to know where to begin; it needs to be > done by someone who understands and has experience with the program. > > >Successful< "experience" would be an asset. > > Cheers! > > Rich Barger > > --- > > Kenny Pitt wrote: > > > zeretul@comcast.net wrote: > > > How should I set up my rule editor to filter Spam into my deleted folder. > > > > Here is a link to a reply that I sent to an earlier question, and I think it > > may contain the information you need. If not, please reply back to the list > > and we can provide further details. > > > > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/2004-March/011652.html > > > > -- > > Kenny Pitt > > > > _______________________________________________ > Spambayes@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html From Rich at RBarger.com Fri Jun 25 19:21:16 2004 From: Rich at RBarger.com (Richard B Barger ABC APR) Date: Fri Jun 25 19:21:32 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Okay, it wasn't me Message-ID: <40DCB36C.2B485833@RBarger.com> I apologize to the group, but I mailed correctly, and the Subject line still moved down to CC: This is the second time that has happened; I have no idea why. Rich Barger -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... 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Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 53958 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040625/1b281df4/winmail.bin From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Fri Jun 25 20:50:01 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Fri Jun 25 20:50:09 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Execute test suite In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306E92B04@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677FDB@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > This screenshot is taken from a development > version running from source code. SpamBayes > detects if it is running from the released > binaries or from source code, and it does not > show the "Execute test suite" option if > running from the released binaries. We really ought to use a shot from the binary and use that. Any chance you want to do that? =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From bwavin at stofanet.dk Sat Jun 26 07:18:44 2004 From: bwavin at stofanet.dk (B Wavin) Date: Sat Jun 26 07:18:36 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Both Outlook Plugin in and the sb_server Message-ID: <004701c45b6f$57d46010$08596b3e@barrys> I have been using the Outlook plug-in for many months now and it works flawlessly, thanks :) I have installed it on a friends computer who uses Outlook and he too has been very pleased with it. However other members of his family are now using Outlook Express (on the same computer) and he would like install the sb_server version for them. Could both the Outlook Plug-in and the sb_server be installed on the same machine or would he need to uninstall the plug-in and use the sb_server to monitor both Outlook & Outlook Express? The reason he would like to do this is when OE ceases to be used he can retain the functionality of the plug-in. Thanks Barry From scott at brastedhouse.com Sat Jun 26 08:11:39 2004 From: scott at brastedhouse.com (Scott Brasted) Date: Sat Jun 26 08:11:08 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Compliments In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040626/7fecf3e4/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat Jun 26 22:45:57 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat Jun 26 22:46:05 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Both Outlook Plugin in and the sb_server In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306E92D31@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677FF0@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > However other members of his family are now using Outlook > Express (on the same computer) and he would like install the > sb_server version for them. Could both the Outlook Plug-in > and the sb_server be installed on the same machine Yes, this is no problem. They'll default to using different databases, which is probably best to stick with, although you can change that. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat Jun 26 22:55:50 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat Jun 26 22:55:59 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306E92B6A@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677FF3@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > He installed it on his home computer and runs WXPP > outlook to a Pop3. After install he cannot send > e-mail any more. He receives email ok but the send > process errors out. He uninstalled spambayes and > it didn't fix. I presume this was the Outlook plugin, since it was Outlook. The plug-in doesn't touch outgoing mail (or mail delivery) in any way. All it does is wait for Outlook to tell it that there are new messages in particular folders, and then deals with them appropriately. Any mail delivery, in or out, isn't touched at all. In addition, if SpamBayes has been uninstalled, then it's no longer doing anything at all, so it certainly isn't the culprit here. Has he checked the outgoing settings in Outlook? Has he looked up the error message (which needs to be told to anyone trying to figure out the problem - it's nearly impossible without it) in google? Has he checked that it's not just a temporary problem with his ISP? =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat Jun 26 22:57:22 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat Jun 26 22:57:27 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] FAILED to add the toolbar item'SpamBayesCommand.Manager' - (-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.' In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306E92B6B@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677FF4@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Mail is still being filtered but I get a fatal exception when > I try to click on the spambayes buttons in Outlook. Have you tried deleting the outcmd.dat file as described in the troubleshooting guide? Have you tried deleting the toolbar? (It will be automatically recreated next time you open Outlook). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat Jun 26 22:58:31 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat Jun 26 22:58:36 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] please protect me against unwanted porn In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306E92A5F@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677FF5@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> If you download and install SpamBayes, it can filter out any junk mail (such as pornographic mail). The website has more details, or you can just download and install, and go with the documentation that it installs. http://spambayes.org =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat Jun 26 23:03:38 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat Jun 26 23:03:47 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] McAfee virus detection problem. In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306E9269D@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677FF6@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I have installed SpamBayes in house, and i detect > that when i download a message, it is saved on a TMP > file on my Hard Disk. Assuming you're using sb_server, that's correct. SpamBayes caches messages (in the cache directories) so that they can be used for training via the web interface (or SMTP proxy). > The problem comes when McAfee detects a Virus Message, > and reapir it. SpamBayes just send me "+OK xxxx", but > the message doesn't comes, because McAfee delete it. > How Can i auto-detect that, and just remove the remote > message, or send a report error?. Just I need a Proxy > Cascade that detect this error?. I'm not sure I'm completely understanding this: do you mean that McAfee checks for virii as they arrive, and that it deletes the message before SpamBayes gets to it? Or do you mean that McAfee doesn't like the cache directories that you mentioned above? If McAfee is involved in the mail delivery (if it is also a POP3 proxy, for example), then I presume you already have a chain or cascade of proxies - something like: Mail Server <-> McAfee <-> SpamBayes <-> Mail Client The solution would probably be to swap them about, so it's like this: Mail Server <-> SpamBayes <-> McAfee <-> Mail Client That way things look more like normal to McAfee, so it will probably handle it better. Please mail the list back if this doesn't help. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat Jun 26 23:06:24 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat Jun 26 23:06:56 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Make "Delete as Spam" really delete the email In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306C37D7F@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677FF7@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Maybe a better solution would be to have SB deal with three > folders: 1. Spam Suspects (the 'unsure'), as exists today 2. > Spam (those that the filter deemed to be spam), as exists > today 3. Spam by user (those that the user marked with > 'delete as spam') FWIW, I simulate this by having SpamBayes mark messages that I do "Delete As Spam" on as read, but leave mail automatically classified as spam as unread. That way, when I go into the spam folder, it's only the unread mail that I have to check. Amir is correct, though, that a request like this will stand a better chance of survival via the sourceforge system. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat Jun 26 23:11:36 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat Jun 26 23:11:46 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Grisoft AVG Universal E-mail Scanner -> Spambayes -> Netscape Messenger 4.79 In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306E92B3B@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677FF9@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Unless you have knowledge that a large number of Spambayes > users are on Netscape Messenger 4.79 (Netscape 7 may have > better rendering) I'd drop it to the bottom of your list. It's already somewhere around there ;) > I recall an earlier email where you said the page is generated > on the fly. Much of it, yes. > I suspect your generator would have to do some browser sniffing > and generate an entirely different page depending on the > browser. I would certainly hate to do this. The pages could be more compliant in places, though, which might help. There are certainly a few minor changes that could be made that would improve things without causing any problems elsewhere. > Hmmm. In this case it would probably have to do > 'mail-client sniffing'. As long as I am using Netscape > Messenger, any HTML is opened in Netscape Navigator, > regardless of what the system's 'default' browser is. I didn't realise this! Isn't that the sort of thing that Microsoft gets in trouble for? . > PROBABLY most of the current browsers will display it properly. Certainly there haven't been other reports of problems, so it's reasonably safe to assume this. I've used it in modern versions of IE, Opera, Mozilla, and Firefox, so Windows is reasonably certain to be ok, anyway. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Sat Jun 26 23:15:05 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Sat Jun 26 23:15:14 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: [spambayes-dev] Training In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306E92AE8@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677FFA@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> >> 2. Select an incorrectly classified message (before >> training), and do >> SpamBayes->Show spam clues for this message. > > I did do #2, but was unable to remedy. How do I send you the > message, along with this string? Just type spambayes@python.org in the "To" box at the top of the (generated) email, and add any comments that you want at the top of the email, then send. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From LanceVictor at telus.net Sat Jun 26 23:49:08 2004 From: LanceVictor at telus.net (Lance Neustaeter) Date: Sat Jun 26 23:49:09 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Make "Delete as Spam" really delete the email In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677FF7@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <000001c45bf9$b34abae0$0301a8c0@father> Tony Meyer scribbled on June 26, 2004 20:06: > FWIW, I simulate this by having SpamBayes mark messages that I do > "Delete As Spam" on as read, but leave mail automatically classified > as spam as unread. That way, when I go into the spam folder, it's > only the unread mail that I have to check. Thanks, I'll use that suggestion "in the meantime"! > Amir is correct, though, that a request like this will stand a better > chance of survival via the sourceforge system. My original post that started this thread was a request for others to go and vote "me too!" on the entry that I had put in on the feature request thingy at sourceforge. https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=973376&group_i d=61702&atid=498106 Thanks for your vote!!!! :-) Lance From postmaster at amnesty.org Sat Jun 26 23:51:37 2004 From: postmaster at amnesty.org (postmaster@amnesty.org) Date: Sat Jun 26 23:51:53 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Virus Alert - ScanMail for Lotus Notes --> Hello Message-ID: ScanMail has blocked your infected mail due to mail restrictions. 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Listener on port 110 is proxying mail.star-chaser.com:110 User interface url is http://localhost:8880/ Traceback (most recent call last): File "pop3proxy_tray.py", line 389, in OnCommand File "pop3proxy_tray.py", line 495, in OpenConfig File "webbrowser.pyc", line 46, in open_new File "webbrowser.pyc", line 250, in open WindowsError: [Errno 2] The system cannot find the file specified: 'http://localhost:8880/config' Loading database... Listener on port 110 is proxying mail.star-chaser.com:110 Traceback (most recent call last): File "pop3proxy_tray.py", line 389, in OnCommand File "pop3proxy_tray.py", line 502, in OpenReview File "webbrowser.pyc", line 46, in open_new File "webbrowser.pyc", line 250, in open WindowsError: [Errno 2] The system cannot find the file specified: 'http://localhost:8880/review' Loading database... SMTP Listener on port 25 is proxying smtpauth.earthlink.net:25 Listener on port 110 is proxying mail.star-chaser.com:110 error: uncaptured python exception, closing channel (socket.error:(10054, 'Connection reset by peer') [asynchat.pyc|initiate_send|218] [asyncore.pyc|send|337]) Loading database... Listener on port 110 is proxying mail.star-chaser.com:110 From m.kulik at adelphia.net Sun Jun 27 15:27:32 2004 From: m.kulik at adelphia.net (Mark Kulik) Date: Sun Jun 27 15:27:28 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Where is the junk file? Message-ID: <000001c45c7c$ce5f03d0$8c7ca645@D3SYW921> Loaded version 1.0 v2. Although I can see the junk File and Suspected Junk file from the manager, I cannot see those files in outlook. In other words, my emails are going somewhere, just can't see them or get to them. Thanks for your help. mark -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040627/8ead57a8/attachment-0001.html From microsecondplundered at cablespeed.com Sun Jun 27 22:07:22 2004 From: microsecondplundered at cablespeed.com (Bob Juul) Date: Sun Jun 27 22:07:35 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] CIAL'1S & LEVI'TRA : DOCT0R & FDA a.pprova1 ! Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040628/c3215265/attachment.html From tim.peters at gmail.com Sun Jun 27 23:40:16 2004 From: tim.peters at gmail.com (Tim Peters) Date: Sun Jun 27 23:40:25 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Corrupted Outlook .pst In-Reply-To: <000501c45c81$e085acd0$de01a8c0@MNAISHW2K02> References: <000501c45c81$e085acd0$de01a8c0@MNAISHW2K02> Message-ID: <1f7befae04062720406da0a1c0@mail.gmail.com> [Matt Naish] > Does anyone have experience with fixing a corrupted outlook .pst file? Not beyond running scanpst.exe ("Inbox Repair Tool"), no. > SpamBayes was doing its thing when I hit the infamous 2GB pst file size limit (if > a pst file exceeds 2GB the file becomes corrupted and outlook cannot open it). > I have tried some of the suggested solutions like removing 25 to 50 MB of the > file with a hex editor and then running scanpst.exe (Inbox Repair Tool), but to no > avail. There are commercial programs (== cost $$$) that claim to be able to do better, but I have no experience with them. > Maybe my corrupted file is somehow related to SpamBayes operations? I don't think so. Every version of Outlook I've ever used routinely corrupts its .pst files (according to scanpst.exe), regardless of Outlook version, addins, or Windows version. My current OL2003 on WinXP Pro does so too, whether or not SpamBayes is installed. Because the SB addin attaches a spam-score field to each message it scores, the .pst file needs to be a little bigger in order to hold these scores. That's the only effect I expect SB has on .pst files. From savieg at stadt.duesseldorf.de Mon Jun 28 01:02:19 2004 From: savieg at stadt.duesseldorf.de (savieg@stadt.duesseldorf.de) Date: Mon Jun 28 01:09:56 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] =?iso-8859-1?q?E-Mail_Inhalt_nicht_zul=E4ssig?= Message-ID: <20040628050918.A45487FAA8@mail02.duesseldorf.de> Ein Dateinanhang an dieser E-Mail wurde entfernt, weil er nicht den Sicherheitsrichtlinien entsprach. From: spambayes@python.org To: info@intramail.stv-ddorf.de File(s): websites01.doc .pif Matching filename: *.pif From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jun 28 01:03:43 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Jun 28 01:27:06 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Where is the junk file? In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306E92E5A@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F130467800A@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Although I can see the junk File and Suspected > Junk file from the manager, I cannot see those > files in outlook. > > In other words, my emails are going somewhere, > just can't see them or get to them. If you look at the Outlook Folder list ("View" menu, "Folder list") are they listed there somewhere? Note that you might need to expand some of the folders (click the little plus signs) to see subfolders. You could also try using Outlook's Advanced Find function to find a message you know is in one of the two folders. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jun 28 01:39:37 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Jun 28 01:39:49 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Spambayes quit work with change of pop In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306E92E59@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F130467800D@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I have trained 253 ham and 1181 spam. Note that, in general, you'll have better results training roughly the same amount of ham and spam. > The problem I am having is when I changed my pop from > smydomain.com to mail.mydomain.com spambayes quit working. > I did mak the changes in config. [From log] > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "pop3proxy_tray.py", line 389, in OnCommand > File "pop3proxy_tray.py", line 502, in OpenReview > File "webbrowser.pyc", line 46, in open_new > File "webbrowser.pyc", line 250, in open > WindowsError: [Errno 2] The system cannot find the file > specified: 'http://localhost:8880/review' This is a strange error - Windows is saying that it can't find a file, but it should be just trying to open that URL in the default browser. The log did seem to indicate the the POP3 proxy was still working - is that the case? (i.e. you can still connect to the mail server through SpamBayes, and incoming mail is classified). What happens if you open up a browser window and enter into the address bar? =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From sourceforge at rodland.no Mon Jun 28 03:58:45 2004 From: sourceforge at rodland.no (Fredrik Rodland) Date: Mon Jun 28 03:59:38 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Corrupted Outlook .pst In-Reply-To: <000501c45c81$e085acd0$de01a8c0@MNAISHW2K02> Message-ID: you could have a loook at: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;%5BLN%5D;Q296088 which addresses the "2-GB, scanpst.exe does work"-case. first site on the following google-search: "download Inbox Repair Tool site:microsoft.com" Fredrik -- Fredrik Rodland Technical Architect, Stocknet, Oslo, Norway Stocknet: http://www.stocknet.com phone: +47 23 28 40 17 Private: http://rodland.no phone: +47 99 21 98 17 -----Original Message----- From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org]On Behalf Of Matt Naish Sent: 27. juni 2004 22:04 To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Corrupted Outlook .pst Hi there, Does anyone have experience with fixing a corrupted outlook .pst file? SpamBayes was doing its thing when I hit the infamous 2GB pst file size limit (if a pst file exceeds 2GB the file becomes corrupted and outlook cannot open it). I have tried some of the suggested solutions like removing 25 to 50 MB of the file with a hex editor and then running scanpst.exe (Inbox Repair Tool), but to no avail. Maybe my corrupted file is somehow related to SpamBayes operations? Any insight is greatly welcomed! Thanks in advance, Matt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040628/98718459/attachment.html From Amir_Katz at bmc.com Mon Jun 28 04:12:11 2004 From: Amir_Katz at bmc.com (Katz, Amir) Date: Mon Jun 28 04:12:37 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] So many spams, so little ham Message-ID: Tony, In a recent post, you said (like you always do): Someone> I have trained 253 ham and 1181 spam. Tony M.> Note that, in general, you'll have better results training roughly the same Tony M.> amount of ham and spam. I'm really trying to, but since nowadays I get much more spam than ham (like many people do), I cannot really keep the numbers balanced anymore. Is this really a problem? SB is doing a pretty decent job with the current database as it is. Maybe I should tell it to stop training on new messages, that is, just categorize them but don't update the DB? Is that possible? Does it make any sense? Amir From missmoney at alist.co.uk Mon Jun 28 12:12:22 2004 From: missmoney at alist.co.uk (Miss Moneypennys) Date: Mon Jun 28 07:12:29 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Music2Dance2 2nd July Message-ID: PM200012:12:22 An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040628/0e570dda/attachment.html From skip at pobox.com Mon Jun 28 09:44:57 2004 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Mon Jun 28 09:45:36 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] So many spams, so little ham In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <16608.8409.163214.411372@montanaro.dyndns.org> Someone> I have trained 253 ham and 1181 spam. Tony> Note that, in general, you'll have better results training roughly Tony> the same amount of ham and spam. Amir> I'm really trying to, but since nowadays I get much more spam than Amir> ham (like many people do), I cannot really keep the numbers Amir> balanced anymore. Is this really a problem? I've solved this problem in my train-to-exhaustion script, contrib/tte.py. I don't think this will help people who use Outlook unless you have some way to save your spam and ham to external mailboxes and retrain from scratch. Tte.py ruthlessly trains hams and spams in pairs, skipping any leftovers at the end. The -R flag causes it to work its way backward through the mailboxes. In general, this means that it trains on new messages in preference to old messages. The -c flag causes it to write out new mailboxes, culling messages which were considered but scored correctly in each round. This has the nice effect that you don't need to worry if you have two of the same sort of ham or spam. The script will automatically cull those messages which will have no effect on training. Finally, if the generated database gets bigger than I'd like, I visit the ham and spam collections in my mail program, sort by date and toss out a few old messages from each collection. I've attached the shell script (tte.sh) I use to drive tte.py. In the common case I run it like so. (I suppose I could bury mv and touch commands into tte.sh but I haven't.) cd ~/tmp # the .cull files are those saved from the previous tte run mv newham.old.cull newham.old mv newspam.old.cull newspam.old # just to guarantee we'll run the main loop touch newham tte.sh You won't be able to use tte.sh as-is, but it may be useful as a jumping off point. Skip -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/octet-stream Size: 2200 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040628/5e8fd007/attachment.obj From SBruchesky at indoff1.com Mon Jun 28 10:03:52 2004 From: SBruchesky at indoff1.com (Bruchesky, Syndi) Date: Mon Jun 28 10:04:10 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Terminal Services HELP Message-ID: <6AB05F9D9EBCD311A41300508B72DDA7028A08A3@www.indoff1.com> Does Spambayes work with Terminal Services client? 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I love spambayes and would like to get this solved. I would appreciate any additional assistance. -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 7:57 PM To: Rich Alger; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] FAILED to add the toolbar item'SpamBayesCommand.Manager' - (-2147352567, 'Exception occurred.' > Mail is still being filtered but I get a fatal exception when I try to > click on the spambayes buttons in Outlook. Have you tried deleting the outcmd.dat file as described in the troubleshooting guide? Have you tried deleting the toolbar? (It will be automatically recreated next time you open Outlook). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From gonzalo at livra.com Mon Jun 28 13:13:04 2004 From: gonzalo at livra.com (Gonzalo Javier Larralde) Date: Mon Jun 28 13:13:15 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] McAfee virus detection problem. References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304677FF6@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <000a01c45d33$2cf70d00$3e00a8c0@livra.local> Hi Tony, Thanks a lot for interesting about my problem :). Just for debugging, i connect to SpamBayes proxy by telnet, and I follow the same steps that MDaemon do. When i do a RETR x, and this message contains a virus, i get "OK xxxx", but the message doesn't comes, and then MDaemon (soft that i use to get the messages), wait for Timeout. I just using one proxy, spambayes. Really, i think in a Proxy Cascade, checking that if i don't get the message on X time, retry a error message. Again, sory my terrible english :(. Thanks a lot, Gonzalo, from Argentina. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Meyer" To: "'Gonzalo Javier Larralde'" ; Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 12:03 AM Subject: RE: [Spambayes] McAfee virus detection problem. > I have installed SpamBayes in house, and i detect > that when i download a message, it is saved on a TMP > file on my Hard Disk. Assuming you're using sb_server, that's correct. SpamBayes caches messages (in the cache directories) so that they can be used for training via the web interface (or SMTP proxy). > The problem comes when McAfee detects a Virus Message, > and reapir it. SpamBayes just send me "+OK xxxx", but > the message doesn't comes, because McAfee delete it. > How Can i auto-detect that, and just remove the remote > message, or send a report error?. Just I need a Proxy > Cascade that detect this error?. I'm not sure I'm completely understanding this: do you mean that McAfee checks for virii as they arrive, and that it deletes the message before SpamBayes gets to it? Or do you mean that McAfee doesn't like the cache directories that you mentioned above? If McAfee is involved in the mail delivery (if it is also a POP3 proxy, for example), then I presume you already have a chain or cascade of proxies - something like: Mail Server <-> McAfee <-> SpamBayes <-> Mail Client The solution would probably be to swap them about, so it's like this: Mail Server <-> SpamBayes <-> McAfee <-> Mail Client That way things look more like normal to McAfee, so it will probably handle it better. Please mail the list back if this doesn't help. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From mark at 1stlandmark.com Mon Jun 28 14:36:09 2004 From: mark at 1stlandmark.com (Mark McLaren) Date: Mon Jun 28 14:55:42 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Install new version over old? Message-ID: <00c201c45d3e$c827bee0$6701a8c0@McLaren> I notice that you have an updated SpamBayes release ver 1.0rc2 on your website. I am successfully running ver 0.81 of SpamBayes in Outlook 2002, Windows XP. I would like to update my version of your software, just wanted to confirm with you exactly how to do that. Should I just download and install the new version over the old, or do I need to use Windows Add/Remove Programs on the old version first? I understand from your online knowledge base, etc that removing the old program will not delete my training database, so I won't have to start over on that. Thanks in advance for your response. Mark McLaren -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Please contact the postmaster (mailto:info@mountainmedia.ch) to resolve this issue. -=----------= START OF SCANNER OUTPUT =-------------=- /tmp/1Bf2oP-00060T-00-tmp/readme.zip archive: ZIP /tmp/1Bf2oP-00060T-00-tmp/readme.zip/document.txt .exe infected: I-Worm.NetSky.q /tmp/1Bf2oP-00060T-00-tmp/textfile0 ok. /tmp/1Bf2oP-00060T-00-tmp/textfile1 ok. /tmp/1Bf2oP-00060T-00-tmp/textfile2 ok. -=-----------= END OF SCANNER OUTPUT =--------------=- -- Message generated by Astaro Security Linux From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jun 28 18:29:56 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Jun 28 18:30:04 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Install new version over old? In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306E93144@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304678013@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I notice that you have an updated SpamBayes release > ver 1.0rc2 on your website. I am successfully running > ver 0.81 of SpamBayes in Outlook 2002, Windows XP. > I would like to update my version of your software, > just wanted to confirm with you exactly how to do that. > Should I just download and install the new version > over the old, or do I need to use Windows Add/Remove > Programs on the old version first? Usually you can just install the new version over the old. Between 0.81 and 1.0rc2, however, an element of the packaging changed which means that this time it would be better to remove the old version first, then install the new one. For future releases, just installing over the old should be fine. > I understand from your online knowledge base, etc > that removing the old program will not delete my > training database, so I won't have to start over on that. That's correct. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From kkenny at filex.com Mon Jun 28 18:46:42 2004 From: kkenny at filex.com (Katie Kenny) Date: Mon Jun 28 18:47:21 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with "Delete as Spam" button Message-ID: <3ABEF55D2051334EAD60A5B396AB57DA51702F@fxcs0007.filex.com> Hi, My "Delete as Spam" button has stopped working. I tried deleting the outcmd.dat file as suggested in the Troubleshooting Guide, but it didn't make any difference. The other buttons on the toolbars are still working, and my messages are being filtered properly. Has anyone seen this behavior? Thanks, Katie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040628/be2b72cc/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jun 28 18:50:03 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Jun 28 18:50:22 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] e-mails in junk suspect folder duplicated In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306E930C2@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C02AB@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I installed Spambayes last week. I am noticing most > (but not every) e-mail in junk suspects is duplicated > (there are two of the same e-mail with same exact date > and time). I am not seeing duplicates in my inbox, > or in Junk E-mail, and do not remember any duplicates > before I installed Spambayes. I have attached the four > log files that were in my Temp directory, and an > example of two duplicate e-mails. For these two emails, at least, I think they are actually two separate (but almost identical) emails that arrived. The log indicates this (it has an entry for each one arriving), and they are almost but not the same: the body is the same (they certainly look identical), but the headers are not quite identical (only one has a "MIME-Version" header, and only one has "Return-Path" and "X-OriginalArrivalTime" headers). This is a pretty strong indication that they are separate emails arriving. This doesn't mean that all of the duplicates are simply multiple copies of messages that you're receiving, but it looks that way. The fact that it's not every email hints at that too, since it really should be all or nothing if it is SpamBayes that's doing it. Spam is all about sending in bulk, so I suspect that you've simply ended up twice on some list and the spammer hasn't taken the time to remove duplicates. They end up in the same folder because they're so similar that the clues will be identical (or nearly so). > My spambayes version is Outlook Addin Binary > Version 0.9 You could try updating to the latest version (1.0rc2 right now, should be 1.0 next week) and seeing if that makes any difference (you can just install the new version over the top of the old one and won't lose any configuration or training data). I recall some discussion of possible duplicates some time ago, but nothing recently, so it's possible that there was a problem that was fixed (although I don't recall one). However, as above, I suspect that this is simply how they're arriving, not something that SpamBayes is doing. If this is a very regular occurrence (i.e. every day you have these duplicates), then you could also try turning SpamBayes off temporarily (untick the "Enable SpamBayes" box in the SpamBayes Manager dialog). If you end up with duplicates in your Inbox, then you know that it's not SpamBayes (and if you don't, and then enable SpamBayes again and they start up again, then maybe it is after all, and be sure to let us know). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jun 28 18:52:27 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Jun 28 18:52:34 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Problem with "Delete as Spam" button In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306E931E0@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304678017@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > My "Delete as Spam" button has stopped working. I > tried deleting the outcmd.dat file as suggested in > the Troubleshooting Guide, but it didn't make any > difference. The other buttons on the toolbars are > still working, and my messages are being filtered > properly. Has anyone seen this behavior? Sometimes this is a problem with the database. Could you send us a copy of your most recent log file (covering a time when you tried to click the button)? It would help us a lot in trying to figure out the problem. The troubleshooting guide explains where to find the log files. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From kkenny at filex.com Mon Jun 28 19:00:44 2004 From: kkenny at filex.com (Katie Kenny) Date: Mon Jun 28 19:01:20 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: Problem with "Delete as Spam" button Message-ID: <3ABEF55D2051334EAD60A5B396AB57DA2D5494@fxcs0007.filex.com> Tony, Thanks for the response. My log is below-it looks like you're right about this being a problem with the database. I've also noticed that the "Recover From Spam" button will work one time after I delete the outcmd.dat file, but after that it stops working as well Loaded bayes database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Katie\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_bayes_database.db' Loaded message database from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Katie\Application Data\SpamBayes\default_message_database.db' Bayes database initialized with 669 spam and 1643 good messages *** - message database has 2320 messages - bayes has 2312 - something is screwey SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0rc2 (June 2004) starting (with engine SpamBayes Engine Version 0.3 (January 2004)) on Windows 5.2.3790 () using Python 2.3.3 (#51, Feb 13 2004, 14:39:56) [MSC v.1200 32 bit (Intel)] SpamBayes: Watching (for filtering) in 'Mailbox - Katie Kenny/Inbox' SpamBayes: Watching (for incremental training) in 'Mailbox - Katie Kenny/Junk E-Mail' Processing missed spam in folder 'Inbox' by starting a timer Creating new SpamBayes toolbar to host our buttons Moving and spam training message 'Hi there...' - Training on message 'Hi there...' in 'Mailbox - Katie Kenny/Junk Suspects - pythoncom error: Python error invoking COM method. Traceback (most recent call last): File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 283, in _Invoke_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 288, in _invoke_ File "win32com\server\policy.pyc", line 550, in _invokeex_ File "addin.pyc", line 637, in OnClick File "addin.pyc", line 161, in TrainAsSpam File "train.pyc", line 52, in train_message File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 273, in learn File "spambayes\classifier.pyc", line 384, in _add_msg File "spambayes\storage.pyc", line 281, in _wordinfoset File "shelve.pyc", line 130, in __setitem__ File "bsddb\__init__.pyc", line 120, in __setitem__ bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- fatal region error detected; run recovery') Message 'Out of Office AutoReply: [Spambayes] Problem with "Delete as Spam" button' in 'Mailbox - Katie Kenny/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Unsure' Message 'yo there - check this out ' in 'Mailbox - Katie Kenny/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Unsure' Message 'RE: [Spambayes] Problem with "Delete as Spam" button' in 'Mailbox - Katie Kenny/Inbox' had a Spam classification of 'Unsure' Thanks, Katie Kenny Trax Holdings 14500 North Northsight Blvd, Ste 113 Scottsdale, AZ 85260 (480) 556-8705 -----Original Message----- From: Katie Kenny Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 3:47 PM To: 'spambayes@python.org' Subject: Problem with "Delete as Spam" button Hi, My "Delete as Spam" button has stopped working. I tried deleting the outcmd.dat file as suggested in the Troubleshooting Guide, but it didn't make any difference. The other buttons on the toolbars are still working, and my messages are being filtered properly. Has anyone seen this behavior? Thanks, Katie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040628/0cd401e1/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Mon Jun 28 19:33:47 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Mon Jun 28 19:33:55 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: Problem with "Delete as Spam" button In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306E931E9@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F130467801B@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > My log is below-it looks like you're right > about this being a problem with the database. [...] > Bayes database initialized with 669 spam and 1643 > good messages > *** - message database has 2320 messages - > bayes has 2312 - something is screwey [...] > bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: > Fatal error, run database recovery -- fatal region > error detected; run recovery') Yes, this is definitely a database problem. Unfortunately it's also one for which the only solution is to retrain from scratch (or restore to an old, not corrupted, version of the database, if you happen to have one). We see occasional reports of this problem, but they're very rare, and we don't know what causes them, other than SpamBayes being interrupted in the middle of training (say a loss of power to the computer or Outlook or the computer crashing) or sharing the databases between two computers. This is (now) a rare problem, so it's highly unlikely you'll ever experience it again, but if you do, it's be great if you had any clues about what might have triggered it - various members of the development team have tried everything that they can think of to trigger it without any success. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From adrian.c at adelphia.net Mon Jun 28 19:53:39 2004 From: adrian.c at adelphia.net (Adrian) Date: Mon Jun 28 19:53:43 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Message-ID: <000001c45d6b$22db2e90$2202a8c0@godfather> Wonderful program, Just one request for current version rc2.I would love to see a feature that erases all messages in the "junk email" folder, as in the "delete" folder when shutting down outlook, or something that forwards all "Junk email" messages to the delete folder. For now I archive older message than 1 days and pick the delete option. But I hate waiting more than a day for them to go away. Just a thought. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040628/01f39c0b/attachment.html From kkenny at filex.com Mon Jun 28 19:53:29 2004 From: kkenny at filex.com (Katie Kenny) Date: Mon Jun 28 19:54:06 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] RE: Problem with "Delete as Spam" button Message-ID: <3ABEF55D2051334EAD60A5B396AB57DA2D5496@fxcs0007.filex.com> I suspect that it may be related to out-of-office reply or requests to send a read receipt. Everything was working fine until I got back from a vacation day. I've seen strange errors related to sending a read receipt--I don't remember any more detail than that. Thanks for your help with this. If you're interested in feedback on the troubleshooting guide, I wasn't sure that retraining the SpamBytes equaled repairing the database. If I had been clear on that, I would have tried that before contacting support. Thanks, Katie Kenny Trax Holdings 14500 North Northsight Blvd, Ste 113 Scottsdale, AZ 85260 (480) 556-8705 -----Original Message----- From: Tony Meyer [mailto:tameyer@ihug.co.nz] Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 4:34 PM To: Katie Kenny; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] RE: Problem with "Delete as Spam" button > My log is below-it looks like you're right > about this being a problem with the database. [...] > Bayes database initialized with 669 spam and 1643 > good messages > *** - message database has 2320 messages - > bayes has 2312 - something is screwey [...] > bsddb._db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30982, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: > Fatal error, run database recovery -- fatal region > error detected; run recovery') Yes, this is definitely a database problem. Unfortunately it's also one for which the only solution is to retrain from scratch (or restore to an old, not corrupted, version of the database, if you happen to have one). We see occasional reports of this problem, but they're very rare, and we don't know what causes them, other than SpamBayes being interrupted in the middle of training (say a loss of power to the computer or Outlook or the computer crashing) or sharing the databases between two computers. This is (now) a rare problem, so it's highly unlikely you'll ever experience it again, but if you do, it's be great if you had any clues about what might have triggered it - various members of the development team have tried everything that they can think of to trigger it without any success. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From kstocky at yahoo.com Mon Jun 28 22:31:20 2004 From: kstocky at yahoo.com (Kim Stockdale) Date: Mon Jun 28 22:31:25 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] FAQ quest? Using spam bayes with outlook 2003 spam filter Message-ID: <20040629023120.34443.qmail@web40409.mail.yahoo.com> I've been using spam bayes with Outlook 2000 and loved it. I upgraded to Outlook 2003, and I understand Outlook's built in spam filter is automatically on. Is there anything I need to do to the Outlook 2003 spam settings in order to use Spam Bayes? Can/should they both be used? Thank you, Kim Stockdale __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From tim.peters at gmail.com Mon Jun 28 22:38:09 2004 From: tim.peters at gmail.com (Tim Peters) Date: Mon Jun 28 22:38:15 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] FAQ quest? Using spam bayes with outlook 2003 spam filter In-Reply-To: <20040629023120.34443.qmail@web40409.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040629023120.34443.qmail@web40409.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1f7befae04062819387419d270@mail.gmail.com> [Kim Stockdale] > I've been using spam bayes with Outlook 2000 and loved > it. I upgraded to Outlook 2003, and I understand > Outlook's built in spam filter is automatically on. I think that's right, by default. > Is there anything I need to do to the Outlook 2003 > spam settings in order to use Spam Bayes? No. > Can/should they both be used? They *can* be. Whether you want them to be is up to you. I used OL2003's builtin filtering for a day before turning it off -- for me, it was doing a poor job (very high false negative rate), so it just cluttered my life. From jzieg2562 at aol.com Tue Jun 29 04:18:59 2004 From: jzieg2562 at aol.com (jzieg2562@aol.com) Date: Tue Jun 29 04:19:03 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] =?iso-8859-1?q?=DFdo0=DFi4grjj40j09gjijgp=FCd=E9?= Message-ID: po44u90ugjid?k9z5894z0 +++ Attachment: No Virus found +++ MessageLabs AntiVirus - www.messagelabs.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: id43342.zip Type: application/octet-stream Size: 29834 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040629/5cd44a07/id43342.obj From NTSERVER001-SA at BarneyAndBarney.com Tue Jun 29 04:20:00 2004 From: NTSERVER001-SA at BarneyAndBarney.com (System Attendant) Date: Tue Jun 29 04:20:08 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] ScanMail Message: To Recipient virus found or matched file blocki ng setting. Message-ID: ScanMail for Microsoft Exchange has taken action on the message, please refer to the contents of this message for further details. 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Thanks, WA Waring Abbott (845) 477-7363 FAX (845) 477-8338 PO Box 1256 - 15 Cox Drive Greenwood Lake NY 10925 wa@waringabbott.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040629/1bf59808/attachment.html From kennypitt at hotmail.com Tue Jun 29 09:46:11 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Tue Jun 29 09:48:05 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <000001c45d6b$22db2e90$2202a8c0@godfather> Message-ID: This has been requested several time, and we have already implemented a patch that adds an "Empty spam folder" menu item to the SpamBayes dropdown. We are not adding any new features before the 1.0 release, but this enhancement may be integrated into the 1.1 release. -- Kenny Pitt _____ From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 7:54 PM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Wonderful program, Just one request for current version rc2.I would love to see a feature that erases all messages in the "junk email" folder, as in the "delete" folder when shutting down outlook, or something that forwards all "Junk email" messages to the delete folder. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We are not adding any new features before the 1.0 release, but this enhancement may be integrated into the 1.1 release. -- Kenny Pitt _____ From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 7:54 PM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Wonderful program, Just one request for current version rc2...I would love to see a feature that erases all messages in the "junk email" folder, as in the "delete" folder when shutting down outlook, or something that forwards all "Junk email" messages to the delete folder. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040629/89c69217/attachment.html From Rich at RBarger.com Tue Jun 29 10:46:08 2004 From: Rich at RBarger.com (Richard B Barger ABC APR) Date: Tue Jun 29 10:46:18 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] I'm running into a resource conflict; SpamBayes freezes my system Message-ID: <40E180B0.F0956685@RBarger.com> Hello. I'm running into a resource conflict; SpamBayes freezes my system, which consists of: Computer - 2.8 Ghz Intel Pentium 4 w/ 2 GB of RAM Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 1, with all the updates Norton Systemworks 2003, v. 6.01 with Norton AntiVirus installed ZoneAlarm Pro 5.0.590.043 Video - Matrox Millennium G400 DualHead, used with two HP monitors (in case this is related to a resource conflict) SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 1.0rc2 I do not use Outlook. I receive a huge volume of mail, which I read in Netscape 4.79, but I open SpamBayes in Netscape 7.1 and IE 6.0; the same problems (below) occur with both browsers. I have a DSL connection. What is a huge volume? More than 1000 messages a day, most-most-most of them spam. After many false starts, I got SpamBayes up and running, and it runs smoothly and is doing a respectable job of classifying this volume of mail. Here's my bayescustomize.ini: [pop3proxy] listen_ports:110 remote_servers:mail.rbarger.com [Headers] notate_subject:unsure spam [Storage] no_cache_bulk_ham:True no_cache_large_messages:4500000 [Categorization] ham_cutoff:0.10 spam_cutoff:0.90 [Categorization] spam_cutoff:0.90 My log file (SpamBayesServer1.log) appears to be unhelpful; here it is: Service not availible [note misspelling]. Using thread. Loading database... Listener on port 110 is proxying mail.rbarger.com:110 User interface url is http://localhost:8880/ Now, I have several questions. I'll space them out in separate msgs over the next few days. Here's the most serious: After installing SpamBayes to my working-just-fine system, everything started going haywire. I monitor my Windows XP system's Event Viewer, and it shows 147 major errors from the ZoneAlarm TrueVector Service since installing SpamBayes. All seem to be related to Internet Log corruption. There were none before the install. System boots with ZoneAlarm. I click the desktop icon to load SpamBayes. I load Netscape and it works fine and SpamBayes works fine and ZoneAlarm works fine. But ... a - If I try to "configure" SpamBayes while ZoneAlarm is running, my entire computer hangs, as if it is in a loop. b - It does not matter if Netscape is loaded or not; as long as ZoneAlarm is loaded, hitting SpamBayes "configure" locks up my computer and won't release the resources without a reboot. c - If I shut ZoneAlarm off, the SpamBayes "configure" module works just fine. d - Exactly the same lockup happens with the SpamBayes "review" function. e - SpamBayes always allows me to use its View Information and Web-based "classify a message" functions. It simply doesn't let me configure or review, so long as ZoneAlarm is active. Info: I have tried resetting the Windows XP advanced performance settings for processor scheduling and memory usage, and increased my paging file size, but none of this helped. So, I'm stuck. I haven't seen any info about this problem in the SpamBayes discussion list since I started monitoring it in mid-Jan; one of the ZoneAlarm discussion groups mentioned it in passing, but really was talking about another anti-spam product. As a user, I'm convinced that there is a resource conflict between ZoneAlarm -- maybe the ZoneAlarm TrueVector module -- and SpamBayes. Both programs seem to work fine in isolation from one another, and none of these problems occur when one or the other is shut off. It's probably more info than you needed -- you may already be familiar with this resource conflict -- but I thought I'd try to be thorough. Help! Rich Barger Kansas City From TaedN at vertical.com Tue Jun 29 10:57:11 2004 From: TaedN at vertical.com (Taed Wynnell) Date: Tue Jun 29 10:55:33 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] 1.0 RC 2 does not work with my Outlook 2002 Message-ID: I'm running Outlook 2002 (with all updates) on my Windows NT 4.0 Server (with all updates). It installs seemingly fine, and I get the normal menu bar. However, the pull-down SpamBayes menu does not respond to a mouse click, and the program does not do any filtering on my Inbox, so it seems completely non-functional. I installed it again, and it still didn't work. I had rebooted and restarted Outlook a number of times in between. I then re-installed 1.0 RC 1 and all was fine again. I had also not had the issue with any prior release (I've been using it for about 6 months). If anyone is interested, I'm willing to install again and collect whatever logs or whatever that is needed, just tell me what to get... Thanks (for this and for everyone's work on SpamBayes)... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040629/9156c1c7/attachment.html From Rich at RBarger.com Tue Jun 29 11:04:25 2004 From: Rich at RBarger.com (Richard B Barger ABC APR) Date: Tue Jun 29 11:04:35 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Correction to: I'm running into a resource conflict; SpamBayes freezes my system Message-ID: <40E184F9.B976690A@RBarger.com> In my post a few minutes ago, I made a misstatement: What I said: SpamBayes always allows me to use its View Information and Web-based "classify a message" functions. What I should have said: SpamBayes always allows me to use its View Information and Web-based "Train on a message" functions. The problem I described does >not< allow me to Classsify a message; that locks up my computer. Sorry for the error. Rich Barger Kansas City From Peter.Perkins at northyorkshire.pnn.police.uk Tue Jun 29 11:48:50 2004 From: Peter.Perkins at northyorkshire.pnn.police.uk (Perkins, Peter) Date: Tue Jun 29 11:49:00 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Excellent Software Message-ID: ********************************************************************** Internet email is not to be treated as a secure means of communication. North Yorkshire Police monitors all internet email activity and content. This communication is intended for the addressee(s) only. Please notify the sender if received in error. Unauthorised use or disclosure of the content may be unlawful. Opinions expressed in this document may not be official policy. Thank you for your co-operation. ********************************************************************** Just a quick note to say thanks for this excellent software and the hard work everyone has put in. I have used several versions so far and all work well. Regards Peter Perkins UK user. From CBrissae at ymca-snoco.org Tue Jun 29 12:39:03 2004 From: CBrissae at ymca-snoco.org (Cheryl Brissae) Date: Tue Jun 29 12:39:15 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) Message-ID: <2F6F1ABB0265DB4F8BD2584A98CB3724E8289C@ycentral.ymca.ymca-snoco.org> Cheryl M. Brissae YMCA of Snohomish County Director of Information Technologies (425) 258-9211 Ext. 131 cbrissae@ymca-snoco.org www.ymca-snoco.org From portrayalcribs at webtv.net Tue Jun 29 15:02:03 2004 From: portrayalcribs at webtv.net (Alberto Tagnipes) Date: Tue Jun 29 15:02:17 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] CIAL1-S & LEVIT-RA works in as 1ittle as 30 min~utes and 1asts for up to 36 hOurs . Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040629/133aee21/attachment.html From h.beijeman at phys.uu.nl Tue Jun 29 18:20:22 2004 From: h.beijeman at phys.uu.nl (beijeman) Date: Tue Jun 29 18:20:19 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Important: new feature! Message-ID: <000001c45e27$44a695c0$6402a8c0@cc656203a> Dear Community, I have the little problem that a significant percentage of my HAM is treatd as SPAM. Now I know about the training, but that is fine (equal numbers, all 200+). I checked the "Show Spam Clues" on several of these cases and it appears that only some specific tokens are responsible. It would be very convenient to have direct access to the token-database and delete these troublesome cases. In addition, it would be nice to have some exclude list. Best regards, H. Beijeman -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040629/2e3b7c8c/attachment.html From mac at agendasystems.com.au Tue Jun 29 21:51:09 2004 From: mac at agendasystems.com.au (Martin Connolly) Date: Tue Jun 29 21:51:42 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Cloning Spambayes Message-ID: I have used Spambayes since early this year. I am setting up a new workstation and want to clone the spam rules from the old one, to avoid retraining - how do I do this? Martin C From tim.peters at gmail.com Wed Jun 30 00:20:47 2004 From: tim.peters at gmail.com (Tim Peters) Date: Wed Jun 30 00:20:52 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] I'm running into a resource conflict; SpamBayes freezes my system In-Reply-To: <40E180B0.F0956685@RBarger.com> References: <40E180B0.F0956685@RBarger.com> Message-ID: <1f7befae040629212076415fd2@mail.gmail.com> [Richard B Barger] > Hello. I'm running into a resource conflict; SpamBayes freezes my > system, which consists of: > > Computer - 2.8 Ghz Intel Pentium 4 w/ 2 GB of RAM > Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 1, with all the updates > Norton Systemworks 2003, v. 6.01 with Norton AntiVirus installed > ZoneAlarm Pro 5.0.590.043 > Video - Matrox Millennium G400 DualHead, used with two HP monitors (in > case this is related to a resource conflict) > SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 1.0rc2 > > I do not use Outlook. I receive a huge volume of mail, which I read in > Netscape 4.79, but I open SpamBayes in Netscape 7.1 and IE 6.0; the same > problems (below) occur with both browsers. I have a DSL connection. > ... The proxy version of SpamBayes is written in utterly vanilla, portable code. It uses no HW resources directly, and doesn't even do anything specific to Windows. You can download all the SB source code for free, if you want to. But it appears you've already determined that it's really ZoneAlarm freezing your system. That's not surprising. ZoneAlarm is written in assembly language, and plays oodles of Windows-specific tricks, grossly interfering with all socket operations (write an ordinary socket-based program and time it, with and without ZA enabled -- you may be amazed at how much slower it runs with ZA on, even if it's just using localhost ports; and that can be a real problem when you're running socket-intensive programs, indeed like downloading a massive amount of email at DSL speed). I had so many problems with ZoneAlarm freezing my system (with or without SpamBayes) that I eventually broke down and spent 30 bucks for a real hardware firewall, and tossed ZA. My Windows boxes got much stabler then. In any case, I don't believe anyone has reported your problem before, and I strongly suspect ZA is the true cause. From gmerritts at msn.com Wed Jun 30 02:38:23 2004 From: gmerritts at msn.com (Glenn Merritts) Date: Wed Jun 30 02:38:25 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Warning Message Message-ID: When I open the manager, I see the warning that I have more ham than spam and the system works best when I have even numbers of ham and spam. I have 196 of ham and 10496 of spam. I am not sure what I am supposed to do to correct this. Given the junk mail out there I would expect to have more spam messages flagged than good, but I am not sure this is what is referred to in the warning. I check FAQ, but did not see anything that resembled the warning message. Can you shed some light here? Thanks. From Rich at RBarger.com Wed Jun 30 09:28:32 2004 From: Rich at RBarger.com (Richard B Barger ABC APR) Date: Wed Jun 30 09:28:41 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] I'm running into a resource conflict; SpamBayes freezes my system References: <40E180B0.F0956685@RBarger.com> <1f7befae040629212076415fd2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <40E2C000.E49D95FE@RBarger.com> Thank you, Tim. Comments below. Rich Barger --- Tim Peters wrote: > The proxy version of SpamBayes is written in utterly vanilla, portable > code. It uses no HW resources directly, and doesn't even do anything > specific to Windows. You can download all the SB source code for free, if > you want to. RBB: Ah, but I wouldn't know what I had or what to do with it even if I downloaded the source code. While I'm an experienced computer >user<, I'm certainly not a programmer. > But it appears you've already determined that it's really ZoneAlarm freezing > your system. RBB: Not exactly; that's why I msg'd the SpamBayes group, Tim. I had no idea whether it was ZoneAlarm causing the problem, or SpamBayes. I just knew they didn't play nice together. > That's not surprising. ZoneAlarm is written in assembly language, and plays > oodles of Windows-specific tricks, grossly interfering with all socket > operations (write an ordinary socket-based program and time it, with and > without ZA enabled -- you may be amazed at how much slower it runs with ZA > on, even if it's just using localhost ports; RBB: I'll trust you on this one; I certainly don't know how to write a "socket-based program." Isn't it fun, dealing with users with the gamut of experience from none to guru? > and that can be a real problem when you're running socket-intensive > programs, indeed like downloading a massive amount of email at DSL speed). RBB: Good example. > I had so many problems with ZoneAlarm freezing my system (with or without > SpamBayes) that I eventually broke down and spent 30 bucks for a real > hardware firewall, and tossed ZA. My Windows boxes got much stabler then. RBB: Good advice; thank you. I hadn't had obvious problems with ZoneAlarm, but it may be affecting my computer in ways I hadn't noticed. > In any case, I don't believe anyone has reported your problem before, and I > strongly suspect ZA is the true cause. RBB: Thanks again, Tim, for the thoughtful, cogent explanation. This group is enormously interesting and helpful. Cheers! Rich Barger Kansas City From michael at kimballpottery.com Wed Jun 30 11:21:28 2004 From: michael at kimballpottery.com (Michael Kimball) Date: Wed Jun 30 11:24:27 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Configuration of multiple email addresses References: <000801c45e3b$08cdc140$6601a8c0@ph.cox.net> Message-ID: <40E2DA78.80A6C978@kimballpottery.com> In Config (http://localhost:8880/config) try putting in each mailserver name, separating one from another with commas. Ditto for the mailserver ports. POP3 Proxy Options Remote Servers: 1stmailservername.etc.etc.etc, 2ndmailserver.etc.etc.etc, 3rdname.etc.etc.etc Remote Servers: The SpamBayes POP3 proxy intercepts incoming email and classifies it before sending it on to your email client. You need to specify which POP3 server(s) you wish it to intercept - a POP3 server address typically looks like "pop3.myisp.net". If you use more than one server, simply separate their names with commas. ..... SpamBayes Ports: 110, 120, 130 (or whatever port your mail client(s) are using) SpamBayes Ports: ..... If there are multiple servers, you must specify the same number of ports as servers, separated by commas..... I'm only using one mailserver, so I don't know for sure that this is how to do it. I don't understand what the smtp configuration is supposed to be doing, so I have left it alone. Hope this helps. Good Luck! > Chuck Cummins wrote: > > > I am using SpamBayes POP3 Proxy Version 1.0rc2 (June 2004) (binary), > with version 2.3.3 (#51, Feb 13 2004, 14:39:56) [MSC v.1200 32 bit > (Intel)] of Python; my operating system is Windows 98SE > 4.10.67766446.1 ( A ). I have trained 0 ham and 0 spam. > > The problem I am having is: I have a HS Cable LAN, with outgoing > address smtp.west.cox.net, and with four (4) incoming mail addresses. > How do I set them up? > > Chuck Cummins > chuckc@lincum.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Spambayes@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes > Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.713 / Virus Database: 469 - Release Date: 6/30/2004 -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.713 / Virus Database: 469 - Release Date: 6/30/2004 From papaDoc at videotron.ca Wed Jun 30 12:46:04 2004 From: papaDoc at videotron.ca (papaDoc) Date: Wed Jun 30 12:46:08 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Warning Message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40E2EE4C.3020604@videotron.ca> Hi Glenn, > When I open the manager, I see the warning that I have more ham than spam > and the system works best when I have even numbers of ham and spam. I have > 196 of ham and 10496 of spam. > > I am not sure what I am supposed to do to correct this. Given the junk mail > out there I would expect to have more spam messages flagged than good, but I > am not sure this is what is referred to in the warning. I check FAQ, but > did not see anything that resembled the warning message. This mean you have trained on more spam than ham. You don't need to train on all incoming spam and you can train on some ham even if they are correctly classified. Usually you train on some spam and ham. Check what is going on. Then add some more. Wait again. If one day you have 50 spam in the unsure range you don't need to train on all of them usually one or two will push the remaining spam over the spam cutoff. Remi N.B. Since you have a really big different it can be hard to re balance the ratio. I suggest you restart from scratch. -- /"\ \ / X ASCII Ribbon Campaign / \ Against HTML Email From papaDoc at videotron.ca Wed Jun 30 13:04:55 2004 From: papaDoc at videotron.ca (papaDoc) Date: Wed Jun 30 13:05:43 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Warning Message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40E2F2B7.7000204@videotron.ca> Glenn Merritts wrote: > What I have been doing, which sounds like I am doing wrong is clicking on > "delete as spam" for each email in my suspects folder. What I think you are > telling me is to click on just a few of the email and delete the others (if > they are really spam) and then see what the next day count in the suspects > folder looks like. I would do this after resetting the program. > > Do I understand your advice? Yes ;-) Since I'm not using Outlook but the Pop3 proxy (but they work on the same principle), I can't tell you where to click but this is what I do. Sometime I'm also selecting some ham even if they are correctly classified and train with them since usually I have more spam in the unsure folder. Remi -- /"\ \ / X ASCII Ribbon Campaign / \ Against HTML Email From SNChristofferson at MercuryInsurance.com Wed Jun 30 13:20:23 2004 From: SNChristofferson at MercuryInsurance.com (Suzie N. Christofferson) Date: Wed Jun 30 13:20:30 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Exchange 200 Question Message-ID: I am running SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0rc1 (May 2004) on an XP machine. My question is can I filter two Inboxes on the same PC at the same time? When I try to check the Inbox of the Mailbox I have added I get the message "Please select a child folder - top-level folders can not be used.". Can you please advise how I may monitor both mailboxes on the same PC if this is possible. Thank you, Suzie N Christofferson -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040630/71beadc3/attachment.html From kennypitt at hotmail.com Wed Jun 30 13:37:52 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Wed Jun 30 13:38:01 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Warning Message In-Reply-To: <40E2F2B7.7000204@videotron.ca> Message-ID: papaDoc wrote: > Glenn Merritts wrote: > >> What I have been doing, which sounds like I am doing wrong is >> clicking >> on "delete as spam" for each email in my suspects folder. What I >> think >> you are telling me is to click on just a few of the email and delete >> the others (if they are really spam) and then see what the next day >> count in the suspects folder looks like. I would do this after >> resetting the program. >> >> Do I understand your advice? > > Yes ;-) It is possible to be a little more "scientific" about this if you wish. First go to Help->About SpamBayes in the SpamBayes dropdown and look at the "Viewing and Using the Spam Score Field" section. Make sure the spam score is displayed in your Suspects folder, and then you can click the column header in Outlook to sort by that column. Sort the messages in ascending order of spam score. Click "Delete as Spam" on several of the lowest scoring spams. Then go to the SpamBayes dropdown and select "Filter messages..." In "Filter the following folders" use the Browse button to select only your Suspects folder. In "Filter action" choose "Score messages". Now click "Start Filtering" and the messages will be rescored based on the updated training. When scoring is finished, the dialog will show the count of the number of spam, unsure and good messages. If there are still unsure messages then click Close and repeat this process until the dialog reports 0 unsure or until you have trained on all the messages in Suspects. You might also want to consider reducing the Certain Spam score on the Filtering tab of SpamBayes Manager. The default value is set high to prevent false positives. After some training, most people can reduce the cutoff score to 75 or 80 at most, especially if you are seeing very few of your good messages show up in Suspects. > Since I'm not using Outlook but the Pop3 proxy (but they work on the > same principle), I can't tell you where to click but this is what I > do. > > Sometime I'm also selecting some ham even if they are correctly > classified and train with them since usually I have more spam in the > unsure folder. Training on correctly classified good messages isn't as easy in Outlook because the "Recover from Spam" button is not shown in folders that contain good messages. It can be done, however, by moving some of your good messages to the Suspects folder and using "Recover from Spam" on them from there. -- Kenny Pitt From andrew at atomicx.com Wed Jun 30 13:46:01 2004 From: andrew at atomicx.com (Andrew F. Kappel) Date: Wed Jun 30 13:45:43 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] possible spambayes bug Message-ID: In outlook 2000. When I set an account to "Leave a copy of messages on server" and "Remove from server when deleted from "Deleted Items" So I can pick up my "saved" mail from my server at a later time. The Email / Spam I have Deleted from both my SpamBayes Spam Directory and my Deleted Items, still stays on the server. I like the software, it is a bit slow, but the quality makes up for it. I am the owner of an ISP / WEB house / Computer / Network.... Yada Yada Yada. I will recommend your product to my customers. Thanks, A -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040630/e8d7495a/attachment.html From papaDoc at videotron.ca Wed Jun 30 13:55:03 2004 From: papaDoc at videotron.ca (papaDoc) Date: Wed Jun 30 13:55:26 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Warning Message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <40E2FE77.7060005@videotron.ca> Hi > It is possible to be a little more "scientific" about this if you wish. This is a reply from someone using the Outlook pligin. I think ;-) Remi P.S. Good job Kenny -- /"\ \ / X ASCII Ribbon Campaign / \ Against HTML Email From kennypitt at hotmail.com Wed Jun 30 14:02:22 2004 From: kennypitt at hotmail.com (Kenny Pitt) Date: Wed Jun 30 14:02:29 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Exchange 200 Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: There was a bug in the addin that should be fixed in the latest version 1.0rc2. You might try the new version and see if it works for you. -- Kenny Pitt _____ From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Suzie N. Christofferson Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 1:20 PM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Exchange 200 Question I am running SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0rc1 (May 2004) on an XP machine. My question is can I filter two Inboxes on the same PC at the same time? When I try to check the Inbox of the Mailbox I have added I get the message "Please select a child folder - top-level folders can not be used.". Can you please advise how I may monitor both mailboxes on the same PC if this is possible. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040630/353687f9/attachment.html From SNChristofferson at MercuryInsurance.com Wed Jun 30 15:09:48 2004 From: SNChristofferson at MercuryInsurance.com (Suzie N. Christofferson) Date: Wed Jun 30 15:09:52 2004 Subject: [SpamBayes] Exchange 200 Question Message-ID: Thank you so much, I will do that. -----Original Message----- From: Kenny Pitt [mailto:kennypitt@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 2:02 PM To: Suzie N. Christofferson; spambayes@python.org Subject: RE: [Spambayes] Exchange 200 Question There was a bug in the addin that should be fixed in the latest version 1.0rc2. You might try the new version and see if it works for you. -- Kenny Pitt _____ From: spambayes-bounces@python.org [mailto:spambayes-bounces@python.org] On Behalf Of Suzie N. Christofferson Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 1:20 PM To: spambayes@python.org Subject: [Spambayes] Exchange 200 Question I am running SpamBayes Outlook Addin Binary Version 1.0rc1 (May 2004) on an XP machine. My question is can I filter two Inboxes on the same PC at the same time? When I try to check the Inbox of the Mailbox I have added I get the message "Please select a child folder - top-level folders can not be used.". Can you please advise how I may monitor both mailboxes on the same PC if this is possible. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040630/243bbbc8/attachment.html From Dhjulberg at mn.rr.com Wed Jun 30 16:49:26 2004 From: Dhjulberg at mn.rr.com (Dan) Date: Wed Jun 30 16:49:24 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] just a suggestion Message-ID: <000001c45ee3$be5a1ba0$86081d41@danhjulberg> Just a suggestion for the next update of spambytes you should add an option where the junk mail folder is automatically emptied after 24 hours or something to that effect -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040630/281b1876/attachment.html From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Jun 30 18:59:03 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Jun 30 18:59:10 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] So many spams, so little ham In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306E9309C@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304678040@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> [Skip] > I've solved this problem in my train-to-exhaustion script, > contrib/tte.py. I don't think this will help people who use > Outlook unless you have some way to save your spam and ham to > external mailboxes and retrain from scratch. I'm convinced that I can figure a way to integrate a tte system with Outlook without much problem, and that it'd be worth trying this - for the ease in keeping balance, if nothing else. However, I'm swamped with other work for the moment...this is certainly something that I'm planning on looking into after 1.0 is out, though. If any of the other Outlook user/developers are interested in coding along too, that would be great :) =Tony Meyer From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Jun 30 19:00:39 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Jun 30 19:00:45 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] just a suggestion In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306F9FF63@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304678041@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Just a suggestion for the next update of spambytes > you should add an option where the junk mail folder > is automatically emptied after 24 hours or something > to that effect Outlook has an excellent "Auto-Archive" facility that you should be able to use to do this for you. Despite the name, messages can be 'archived' into oblivion. (And you can do this on a per-folder basis). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Jun 30 19:03:32 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Jun 30 19:03:38 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Cloning Spambayes In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306F9FEFC@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304678042@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I have used Spambayes since early this year. I am setting up > a new workstation and want to clone the spam rules from the > old one, to avoid retraining - how do I do this? The 'rules' (the token counts) are stored in the default_bayes_database.db file in your data directory. To just copy these over, copy this file and the default_message_database.db file to the appropriate place on the new machine. There is a file called either {profilename}.ini or Outlook.ini there as well - this has your configuration (which folders you are watching and so on). Copying this one as well *might* work (particularly if all your folders are on an Exchange server), but it's probably easiest to reconfigure from scratch on the new machine. The FAQ & troubleshooting guide both explain where to find the data directory. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Jun 30 19:07:51 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Jun 30 19:07:59 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Configuration of multiple email addresses In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306F9FF57@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304678043@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> [Michael's instructions] > I'm only using one mailserver, so I don't know for sure that > this is how to do it. It's exactly right :) You then set your mail client to connect to whichever localhost port matches the server you're after. For example, if you had: Remote Servers: mail.example.com,mail2.example.com Spambayes Ports: 110,111 Then where you had "mail.example.com" in your mail client, you'd replace it with "localhost" and port 110, and where you had "mail2.example.com" you'd replace it with "localhost" and port 111, and so on. > I don't understand what the smtp configuration is > supposed to be doing, so I have left it alone. This is only used if you want to train by forwarding messages to one of a pair of special addresses. The web-based system is much simpler, really. (And, especially once it's nicely finished up, the pop3dnd drag-and-drop training will be much better). =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Jun 30 19:13:05 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Jun 30 19:13:10 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] I'm running into a resource conflict; SpamBayes freezes my system In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306F9FD33@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304678044@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> [...] > Service not availible [note misspelling]. Using thread. [...] This is no help to you at all (I don't have anything to offer more than Tim), but FWIW, I've fixed this typo - thanks for pointing it out! =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Jun 30 19:23:35 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Jun 30 19:23:43 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306F9FD31@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304678046@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Do the version upgrades improve on the programs > ability to detect Spam (not that it needs improvement) > or is it just to add additional features and fix bugs? It depends on the update. The best way to tell is to read the little announcement email (the one that gets posted to spambayes-announce and sometimes here) and if there are changes to the scoring system it'll say so. The last few releases have been building up to a proper "1.0" release, so have only had bug fixes (and really minor ones at that). The next release will be 1.0 and (unless something pops up in the next few days) will be exactly the same as 1.0rc2. After that things will settle down somewhat, and be more predicable. Any 1.0.1, 1.0.2, 1.0.3 (etc) releases will *only* contain bug fixes. It's possible that a bug fix could improve the scoring, but unlikely. The first 1.1 release (1.1a1, probably) will definitely have new features, and some of those could make improvements to the scoring. Two other points (in a rather long version of the "it depends" answer): 1. There are some experimental features that are disabled by default in the recent versions. These are experimental because we're not sure whether they are good across the majority of mail streams, though we are sure that they are good in some cases. You can (with the Outlook plug-in or sb_server, or whatever) enable one or more of these, and that might improve detection. Or it might make it worse. Either way, it's easy to turn on or off (although to get the full benefit will require retraining with many of them). 2. It's likely that the biggest gains to be made are in finding effective training techniques. While we plan to make it easier to use different methods with the various SpamBayes applications, you can experiment with different ways of training with the existing releases, if you want to. Hope this helps! =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Jun 30 19:30:15 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Jun 30 19:30:25 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Important: new feature! In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306F9FD40@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F13064C02BB@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I checked the "Show Spam Clues" on several of these > cases and it appears that only some specific tokens > are responsible. It would be very convenient to have > direct access to the token-database and delete these > troublesome cases. This is not nearly as simple as it sounds: 1. There's no guarantee that this would work. Maybe eliminating those tokens would simply make room for others that would have the same effect. 2. Tokens don't stand alone - they arrive and leave in 'bags' (one email's worth). If you later untrained on an email that contained one of these tokens, things would break. 3. Ongoing training would mean that these tokens simply reappeared later, anyway, so you'd have to be continually editing the database. Can you perhaps identify the messages that these problematic tokens are coming from? Maybe things would be better if you simply didn't train on those messages? What is a "significant percentage", anyway? Maybe you've mistrained a message at some point? That would also explain the problem. You could try retraining from scratch. > In addition, it would be nice to have some exclude list. Please see FAQ 6.6: =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Jun 30 19:31:40 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Jun 30 19:31:48 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] not working In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306F9FD29@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304678048@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > My spambayes seems to simply not be working. > What gives? I can't send spam suspects to the > eternity and I can't rescue good email in the > spam suspects area. Do I need to reinstall? We need to see your most recent log file (the troubleshooting guide explains where to find the log files) to be able to tell what is wrong. One possible cause is that something has happened to the database. If that is the case, then retraining from scratch would solve the problem. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Jun 30 19:42:46 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Jun 30 19:42:57 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Win XP Outlook Menu Problem In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306F9FD26@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F130467804A@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > I have SpamBayes installed and it appears to be > working just fine - EXCEPT - the menu does not > change when I go from the "Inbox" to the "Spam" > folder so that there is no "Recover from Spam" > button any longer. Please check that you're definitely in the right folder. Go to the SpamBayes Manager dialog, to the Filtering tab, and click the Browse button next to the spam folder selection. Check the hierarchy of the folders so you know exactly which folder is set as the spam folder. Then find this folder in Outlook and check to see if the "Recover from Spam" button appears. If it doesn't, then please send us a copy of your most recent log file. The troubleshooting guide explains where to find this. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From tameyer at ihug.co.nz Wed Jun 30 20:17:27 2004 From: tameyer at ihug.co.nz (Tony Meyer) Date: Wed Jun 30 20:17:37 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] McAfee virus detection problem. In-Reply-To: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1306E93108@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F130467804E@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> > Just for debugging, i connect to SpamBayes proxy by > telnet, and I follow the same steps that MDaemon do. > When i do a RETR x, and this message > contains a virus, i get "OK xxxx", but the message doesn't > comes, and then MDaemon (soft that i use to get the messages), > wait for Timeout. What do you get if you bypass SpamBayes? Does the message arrive, or do you get the same OK with nothing else? SpamBayes ought to be just passing on what it receives, although maybe it's not able to handle the message not appearing, and the mail client can. It's hard to tell. > I just using one proxy, spambayes. It's fairly likely that McAfee is acting as a proxy here, even if it's doing it in a non-obvious way. =Tony Meyer --- Please always include the list (spambayes@python.org) in your replies (reply-all), and please don't send me personal mail about SpamBayes. This way, you get everyone's help, and avoid a lack of replies when I'm busy. From Rich at RBarger.com Wed Jun 30 23:05:55 2004 From: Rich at RBarger.com (Richard B Barger ABC APR) Date: Wed Jun 30 23:30:29 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] I'm running into a resource conflict; SpamBayes freezes my system References: <1ED4ECF91CDED24C8D012BCF2B034F1304678044@its-xchg4.massey.ac.nz> Message-ID: <40E37F93.471A69DD@RBarger.com> You're welcome, Tony. I want SpamBayes to be as successful as possible. I have more questions, but not tonight. Long day. Cheers! Rich Barger Kansas City --- Tony Meyer wrote: > [...] > > Service not availible [note misspelling]. Using thread. > [...] > > This is no help to you at all (I don't have anything to offer more than > Tim), but FWIW, I've fixed this typo - thanks for pointing it out! > > =Tony Meyer From juser at isp.com Tue Jun 29 10:45:35 2004 From: juser at isp.com (juser@isp.com) Date: Tue Jul 6 10:50:52 2004 Subject: [Spambayes] Re: Question Message-ID: <20040706085051.043D71E4008@bag.python.org> I have corrected your document. +++ Attachment: No Virus found +++ MC-Afee AntiVirus - www.mcafee.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: document04.zip Type: application/octet-stream Size: 29834 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/spambayes/attachments/20040629/92283a64/document04-0001.obj