[spambayes-bugs] [ spambayes-Feature Requests-917107 ] Extra train buttons on review page

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Feature Requests item #917107, was opened at 2004-03-16 18:57
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Category: Interface Improvements (example)
Group: None
Status: Open
Priority: 5
Submitted By: Tony Meyer (anadelonbrin)
Assigned to: Tony Meyer (anadelonbrin)
Summary: Extra train buttons on review page

Initial Comment:
>From personal email:

"""
I've finally installed the latest SpamBayes version,
and the change of ordering is a big help. However, one
more suggestion: there should be a "train" button under
all three sections, not just at the bottom. Thus it's
not necessary to scroll all the way down after looking
at just the unsure or ham messages.
"""

I agree with this, so if someone wants to get around to
adding the extra buttons, that would be cool :)  I'm
not sure if it's just adding the extra html, since
maybe the dynamic creation of the page will throw
things off (not sure at all).

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>Comment By: Tony Meyer (anadelonbrin)
Date: 2004-06-01 11:41

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I share your opinion about encouraging people to blindly
train, and also the uncertainty about whether to just
believe the customer is always right.

There are lots of fancy things we could do so that it was
only there if they enable an option, or after they've
trained x messages or something, but those all feel pretty
kludgy.

I'm going to copy your excellent example of passing the buck
and leave this open with the patch.  For the moment, anyone
that cares can run from source with the patch.  If there are
more requests for this over the next few months, then maybe
I'll apply it.

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Comment By: Richie Hindle (richiehindle)
Date: 2004-05-27 08:18

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I think it's a bad idea to encourage people to train
without even looking at what they're training on.
Mistakes will get reinforced without people's knowledge.
But maybe the customer is always right; I don't know.

Attached is a patch to add another train button at the
top of the list.  I don't want to commit it because I
think it's bad UI design... Tony, you have a much better
idea than I do about how people use the UI, so I'll leave
it up to you (and anyone else with an opinion 8-) whether
you commit it or not.

copping-out-passing-the-buck-call-it-what-you-will-ly yrs,
Richie


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Comment By: Tony Meyer (anadelonbrin)
Date: 2004-05-24 15:07

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Reopening, at least temporarily.

Richie (if you're about), what about just one more "train"
button, at the top of the page (above any messages)?  This
is requested every now and then, because lots of people just
do the unsures and trust whatever default setting they have
for ham/spam, so don't want to scroll down.

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Comment By: Tony Meyer (anadelonbrin)
Date: 2004-05-24 15:05

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See also:

[ 955892 ] Train button should be on top
<http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=61702&atid=498106&func=detail&aid=955892>

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Comment By: Tony Meyer (anadelonbrin)
Date: 2004-03-18 11:27

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Good point!  I hadn't thought of that.

There hasn't been a clamouring for this anyway, so I'll close 
it, and refer anyone that asks to the closed tracker :)

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Comment By: Richie Hindle (richiehindle)
Date: 2004-03-18 11:15

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Adding copies of the Train button would work, but
FWIW I don't think it's a good idea.  It's not obvious
whether each button would submit the whole page,
or just the section it was immediately underneath,
or all the sections above it.  Maybe changing the text
could help, but if it says "Train all" or something then
than only makes you wonder what the alternative is...
then you end up adding "Train this section" buttons
and the whole thing becomes overengineered.


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