From romana at timelady.com  Mon Sep  4 01:54:03 2006
From: romana at timelady.com (Romana Branden)
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 09:24:03 +0930
Subject: [sapug] Python 101 cheat sheet
Message-ID: <20060903235403.GE5200@hal>

http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-cheatsheet3.html
-- 
Romana Branden
Nothing - well, thats something.
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From chris at inetd.com.au  Mon Sep  4 10:12:41 2006
From: chris at inetd.com.au (Chris Foote)
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 17:42:41 +0930 (CST)
Subject: [sapug] Python 101 cheat sheet
In-Reply-To: <20060903235403.GE5200@hal>
References: <20060903235403.GE5200@hal>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0609041739420.1064@py.inetd.com.au>

On Mon, 4 Sep 2006, Romana Branden wrote:

> http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-cheatsheet3.html

Once you get past the basics, you'll probably want something
more comprehensive like the Python Quick Reference:

 	http://rgruet.free.fr/PQR24/PQR2.4.html


Cheers,

-- 
Chris Foote <chris at inetd.com.au>
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From steve at adam.com.au  Mon Sep  4 10:38:24 2006
From: steve at adam.com.au (stephen white)
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 18:08:24 +0930
Subject: [sapug] Python 101 cheat sheet
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0609041739420.1064@py.inetd.com.au>
References: <20060903235403.GE5200@hal>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0609041739420.1064@py.inetd.com.au>
Message-ID: <08FA36C2-5CA5-4182-8B6C-43C0846463F9@adam.com.au>

On 04/09/2006, at 5:42 PM, Chris Foote wrote:
> Once you get past the basics, you'll probably want something
> more comprehensive like the Python Quick Reference:
>
>  	http://rgruet.free.fr/PQR24/PQR2.4.html

And once she's read that, she might like to set up Python based  
blogging software and use RSS instead of SMTP.

Romana - it might be interesting to you, but we all read web pages  
and know how to use Google to find things like that.

--
   steve at adam.com.au



From romana at timelady.com  Mon Sep  4 10:41:11 2006
From: romana at timelady.com (Romana Branden)
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 18:11:11 +0930
Subject: [sapug] Python 101 cheat sheet
In-Reply-To: <08FA36C2-5CA5-4182-8B6C-43C0846463F9@adam.com.au>
References: <20060903235403.GE5200@hal>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0609041739420.1064@py.inetd.com.au>
	<08FA36C2-5CA5-4182-8B6C-43C0846463F9@adam.com.au>
Message-ID: <20060904084111.GS5200@hal>

On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 06:08:24PM +0930, stephen white imparted:
> On 04/09/2006, at 5:42 PM, Chris Foote wrote:
> >Once you get past the basics, you'll probably want something
> >more comprehensive like the Python Quick Reference:
> >
> > 	http://rgruet.free.fr/PQR24/PQR2.4.html
> 
> And once she's read that, she might like to set up Python based  
> blogging software and use RSS instead of SMTP.
> Romana - it might be interesting to you, but we all read web pages  
> and know how to use Google to find things like that.

and you have a jolly fine day,too:)
-- 
Romana Branden
Nothing - well, thats something.
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From michael.cohen at netspeed.com.au  Mon Sep  4 10:57:43 2006
From: michael.cohen at netspeed.com.au (Michael Cohen)
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 18:57:43 +1000
Subject: [sapug] Python 101 cheat sheet
In-Reply-To: <08FA36C2-5CA5-4182-8B6C-43C0846463F9@adam.com.au>
References: <20060903235403.GE5200@hal>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0609041739420.1064@py.inetd.com.au>
	<08FA36C2-5CA5-4182-8B6C-43C0846463F9@adam.com.au>
Message-ID: <20060904085743.GK602@OpenWrt>

Steve,
  I for one like Romanas feed. I certainly learn a lot from it. The whole point
  of a mailing list is to share information relevant to the topic. Otherwise
  there would be no point of a mailing list - you could always google for the
  answers in the first place.  

  Romana, if you ever do set up rss I would be the first to subscribe.

  Michael.

On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 06:08:24PM +0930, stephen white wrote:
> On 04/09/2006, at 5:42 PM, Chris Foote wrote:
> > Once you get past the basics, you'll probably want something
> > more comprehensive like the Python Quick Reference:
> >
> >  	http://rgruet.free.fr/PQR24/PQR2.4.html
> 
> And once she's read that, she might like to set up Python based  
> blogging software and use RSS instead of SMTP.
> 
> Romana - it might be interesting to you, but we all read web pages  
> and know how to use Google to find things like that.
> 
> --
>    steve at adam.com.au
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> sapug mailing list
> sapug at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/sapug
> 

From steve at adam.com.au  Mon Sep  4 12:21:25 2006
From: steve at adam.com.au (stephen white)
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 19:51:25 +0930
Subject: [sapug] Python 101 cheat sheet
In-Reply-To: <20060904085743.GK602@OpenWrt>
References: <20060903235403.GE5200@hal>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0609041739420.1064@py.inetd.com.au>
	<08FA36C2-5CA5-4182-8B6C-43C0846463F9@adam.com.au>
	<20060904085743.GK602@OpenWrt>
Message-ID: <4396E188-59A1-4AE6-A0FD-7B80C2C0EBB1@adam.com.au>

On 04/09/2006, at 6:27 PM, Michael Cohen wrote:
>   I for one like Romanas feed. I certainly learn a lot from it. The  
> whole point
>   of a mailing list is to share information relevant to the topic.  
> Otherwise

I understand the purpose of a mailing list, but linkdumping isn't one  
of them. Consider what would happen if more people dumped their links  
into mailing lists, and it's easy to see why it's not a good idea.

It takes time to compose and present a message that is meant to be  
read by other people. This time and investment of effort is quality  
filter that makes people think twice before taking other people's  
attention.

When messages are written, tens to hundreds, possibly thousands, of  
people are going to be looking and spending at least some fraction of  
time to decide whether it is something that they want to know about.

The minimal and thoughtless twitch reflex involved in dumping a link  
is disrespectful of that conglomerate attention.

That is why it is good to include a write-up presenting the author's  
own opinions (not just a cut-paste from the article) to explain why  
the article is interesting. It acknowledges the existence of the  
people in the local group, tying information to ongoing conversations  
and recurrent topics.

A dump and a cut/paste is generic, rather like sending a form letter  
to family and friends.

--
   steve at adam.com.au