From kw at codebykevin.com  Sat Oct  2 10:22:09 2021
From: kw at codebykevin.com (Kevin Walzer)
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2021 10:22:09 -0400
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] How to include or install a Python runtime in
 an AppleScript applet
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On 9/28/21 1:12 AM, Vincentius Vincentius wrote:
>
> Can anyone help me with advice on how to create and distribute a 
> Python runtime (with my applet) ?
>
Point your users to the installer for the Mac version of Python:

https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.9.7/python-3.9.7-macosx10.9.pkg

There is no simple way to embed a Python installation within an 
AppleScript applet. If you're doing that, you might as well all the way 
and deploy your script as a full Mac application with Python libraries 
bundled using a tool like py2app.

--Kevin

-- 
Kevin Walzer
Code by Kevin
http://www.codebykevin.com

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From macytdl at gmail.com  Sat Oct  2 22:34:28 2021
From: macytdl at gmail.com (Vincentius Vincentius)
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2021 13:34:28 +1100
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Pythonmac-SIG Digest, Vol 189, Issue 1
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Kevin, many thanks.

Requiring users to install Python themselves might be asking too much for many ? they would just look somewhere else for a tool that doesn?t impose requirements.  Anyway the standard install comes with developer tools that the ordinary user will not need and, from my experience, object to.

I?ve been pointed to PyInstaller which might be a solution for distributing the Python script separately.

Cheers.


Garry
macytdl at gmail.com

> On 3 Oct 2021, at 3:00 am, pythonmac-sig-request at python.org wrote:
> 
>> Can anyone help me with advice on how to create and distribute a Python runtime (with my applet) ?
>> 
> Point your users to the installer for the Mac version of Python:
> 
> https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.9.7/python-3.9.7-macosx10.9.pkg <https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.9.7/python-3.9.7-macosx10.9.pkg>
> There is no simple way to embed a Python installation within an AppleScript applet. If you're doing that, you might as well all the way and deploy your script as a full Mac application with Python libraries bundled using a tool like py2app. 
> 
> --Kevin 
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From jack.jansen at cwi.nl  Sun Oct  3 19:04:10 2021
From: jack.jansen at cwi.nl (jack.jansen at cwi.nl)
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2021 01:04:10 +0200
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] How to include or install a Python runtime in
 an AppleScript applet
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 <3da5bae4-ab5a-7cff-bf83-0db181c8b359@codebykevin.com>
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Another option would be that the AppleScript checks whether the correct Python is installed (or maybe one of several usable Pythons, for example the official Python 3.x installer or a brew installation) and use that if it is. And if no suitable Python is found it could redirect the user to a web page with instructions on how to install a compatible Python.

That is sort-of what Kevin suggests (Point users to a Python installation), but with a bit of automation added.

Jack


> On 2 Oct 2021, at 16:22, Kevin Walzer <kw at codebykevin.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> On 9/28/21 1:12 AM, Vincentius Vincentius wrote:
>> 
>> Can anyone help me with advice on how to create and distribute a Python runtime (with my applet) ?
>> 
> Point your users to the installer for the Mac version of Python:
> 
> https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.9.7/python-3.9.7-macosx10.9.pkg <https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.9.7/python-3.9.7-macosx10.9.pkg>
> There is no simple way to embed a Python installation within an AppleScript applet. If you're doing that, you might as well all the way and deploy your script as a full Mac application with Python libraries bundled using a tool like py2app. 
> 
> --Kevin 
> 
> -- 
> Kevin Walzer
> Code by Kevin
> http://www.codebykevin.com <http://www.codebykevin.com/>
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From macytdl at gmail.com  Mon Oct  4 19:42:26 2021
From: macytdl at gmail.com (Vincentius Vincentius)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2021 10:42:26 +1100
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Pythonmac-SIG Digest, Vol 189, Issue 3
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Thanks, yes, that is an option I?ve considered.  My applet already checks for required components and handles the download and install for the user (who only needs to provide admin credentials).

But, Apple?s recommendation is for developers to include a Python runtime with the app <https://developer.apple.com/documentation/macos-release-notes/macos-catalina-10_15-release-notes#Scripting-Language-Runtimes>   I guess that's because apps can be finicky over which version of Python they require with as well as the range of modules required.  So, I?ve been working with the developer of the Python tool my applet uses to use PyInstaller to build a single file executable containing the script, Python and required modules.  That can be built by a GitHub YAML script and published for all Mac users.  It?ll probably be built to run on macOS 10.15 Catalina and Universal2 architecture.  My AS applet will then be able to download, install and use the executable in the same way as its existing components.

Cheers.


Garry
macytdl at gmail.com

> On 5 Oct 2021, at 3:00 am, pythonmac-sig-request at python.org wrote:
> 
> Send Pythonmac-SIG mailing list submissions to
> 
>   1. Re: How to include or install a Python runtime in an
>      AppleScript applet (jack.jansen at cwi.nl)
> 
> From: jack.jansen at cwi.nl
> Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] How to include or install a Python runtime in an AppleScript applet
> Date: 4 October 2021 at 10:04:10 am AEDT
> To: kw at codebykevin.com
> Cc: pythonmac-sig at python.org, macytdl at gmail.com
> 
> 
> Another option would be that the AppleScript checks whether the correct Python is installed (or maybe one of several usable Pythons, for example the official Python 3.x installer or a brew installation) and use that if it is. And if no suitable Python is found it could redirect the user to a web page with instructions on how to install a compatible Python.
> 
> That is sort-of what Kevin suggests (Point users to a Python installation), but with a bit of automation added.
> 
> Jack
> 
> 
>> On 2 Oct 2021, at 16:22, Kevin Walzer <kw at codebykevin.com <mailto:kw at codebykevin.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On 9/28/21 1:12 AM, Vincentius Vincentius wrote:
>>> 
>>> Can anyone help me with advice on how to create and distribute a Python runtime (with my applet) ?
>>> 
>> Point your users to the installer for the Mac version of Python:
>> 
>> https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.9.7/python-3.9.7-macosx10.9.pkg <https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.9.7/python-3.9.7-macosx10.9.pkg>
>> There is no simple way to embed a Python installation within an AppleScript applet. If you're doing that, you might as well all the way and deploy your script as a full Mac application with Python libraries bundled using a tool like py2app. 
>> 
>> --Kevin 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Kevin Walzer
>> Code by Kevin
>> http://www.codebykevin.com <http://www.codebykevin.com/>
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