[Pythonmac-SIG] PyObjC and macOS 10.12 (Sierra)
Andrew Jaffe
a.h.jaffe at gmail.com
Tue Oct 25 04:36:52 EDT 2016
On 12/10/2016 21:02, Ronald Oussoren wrote:
>
>> On 12 Oct 2016, at 21:09, Glyph Lefkowitz <glyph at twistedmatrix.com
>> <mailto:glyph at twistedmatrix.com>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Oct 12, 2016, at 11:49 AM, Andrew Jaffe <a.h.jaffe at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:a.h.jaffe at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Not me. If I understand correctly, Glyph -- who undoubtedly
>>> understand the situation better than I do -- still thinks that
>>> there's no actual bug here, since we shouldn't be using the framework
>>> build this way, but I'm not sure I understand/agree...
>>
>> To be honest, I'm not 100% sure this is a good idea either; it's just
>> that I know Donald Stufft has had a terrible time with Apple system
>> python for several years, and he regards this as a positive change.
>> From my personal perspective, there's a good case to be made that a
>> python in /System should just load from /System and one in /Library
>> should load only from /Library, similar to the way --prefix works on
>> "regular" UNIX. But, this is what we've got :).
>
> I don’t mind if the /System python looks in /Library for stuff that the
> user installed there, but I do consider it a bug that Apple installs
> system files in /Library because that affects all installations of
> Python 2.7.
>
> That’s what we get for playing nice with OSX conventions for where to
> locate files :-(. Luckily this isn’t a problem for Python3 as Apple
> doesn’t ship that (and I’d be surprised if they ever unless they start
> shipping Python3 code as part of the OS).
Well, I did submit a radar, and although I'm not sure how far the NDA
extends, I hope I can say that, unfortunately, I got a "behaves as
intended" response...
Andrew
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