From poalman at gmail.com  Wed Nov 19 18:41:31 2014
From: poalman at gmail.com (Paul Wiseman)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 17:41:31 +0000
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Displaying messages through notification centre
Message-ID: <CACgdh2gj+VD9yGA-HCRv8y=ov7DQC8b9iwQ3rLGyrwgL7z+Hsg@mail.gmail.com>

I've got an app which at the moment displays custom drawn tray style
notifications.

The app targets OSX 10.5+. I want to start looking at showing these
messages/notifications through the native notification centre for users on
systems that support it (10.8+).

I have a few questions on how to do this. It looks like this should be
possible by creating the correct object
<https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Foundation/Reference/NSUserNotification_Class/>through
pyobjc. Will it be possible to just include the bits of pyobjc in my final
app that I need to create the notifications? I'd rather not include the
whole of pyobjc just for this one bit of functionality if I can avoid it.
If so how might I got about separating the unused parts of the library out
(I'm using py2app)

Also are there many differences since 10.8 that I should be aware of when
implementing this?

Thanks!

Paul
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From nad at acm.org  Wed Nov 19 22:28:44 2014
From: nad at acm.org (Ned Deily)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 13:28:44 -0800
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Displaying messages through notification centre
References: <CACgdh2gj+VD9yGA-HCRv8y=ov7DQC8b9iwQ3rLGyrwgL7z+Hsg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <nad-EE5495.13284419112014@news.gmane.org>

In article 
<CACgdh2gj+VD9yGA-HCRv8y=ov7DQC8b9iwQ3rLGyrwgL7z+Hsg at mail.gmail.com>,
 Paul Wiseman <poalman at gmail.com> wrote:
> I've got an app which at the moment displays custom drawn tray style
> notifications.
> 
> The app targets OSX 10.5+. I want to start looking at showing these
> messages/notifications through the native notification centre for users on
> systems that support it (10.8+).
> 
> I have a few questions on how to do this. It looks like this should be
> possible by creating the correct object
> <https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Foundation/Reference/NS
> UserNotification_Class/>through
> pyobjc. Will it be possible to just include the bits of pyobjc in my final
> app that I need to create the notifications? I'd rather not include the
> whole of pyobjc just for this one bit of functionality if I can avoid it.
> If so how might I got about separating the unused parts of the library out
> (I'm using py2app)

If you don't get an answer here, you should try the pyobjc list:

https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pyobjc-dev

Another simple-minded possibility: use the AppleScript "display 
notification" command by "shelling out" from your app to osascript:

http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/57412/how-can-i-trigger-a-notifi
cation-center-notification-from-an-applescript-or-shel

-- 
 Ned Deily,
 nad at acm.org


From scottclausen at mac.com  Wed Nov 26 21:13:11 2014
From: scottclausen at mac.com (Scott Clausen)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 12:13:11 -0800
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Python 3.4.2 as default version
Message-ID: <AF551A12-5C2C-4F2A-98AB-2D7A2FAC6C5D@mac.com>

I?ve been searching the sites to find out how to set the latest version of Python, 3.4.2, as the default version. So far I?ve not been able to do so.

I know I can use Idle to utilize the 3.4.2 version but I prefer to use a different editor. I?m not sure if I can do this with a script or plist so any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Scott 

You can have your own opinions but you can?t have your own facts. Truth is not a democracy. It doesn?t give a shit what you believe.

? Ricky Gervais

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From chris.barker at noaa.gov  Wed Nov 26 23:00:00 2014
From: chris.barker at noaa.gov (Chris Barker)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 14:00:00 -0800
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Python 3.4.2 as default version
In-Reply-To: <AF551A12-5C2C-4F2A-98AB-2D7A2FAC6C5D@mac.com>
References: <AF551A12-5C2C-4F2A-98AB-2D7A2FAC6C5D@mac.com>
Message-ID: <CALGmxELWXX7N67fUnpuZ+iZ89=p_7A31-mxbmFCgKH9TM-qcgA@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Scott Clausen <scottclausen at mac.com>
wrote:

> I?ve been searching the sites to find out how to set the latest version of
> Python, 3.4.2, as the default version. So far I?ve not been able to do so.
>

you put it first on your PATH in .bash_profile

If you installed from the dmg on python.org, it should have done that for
you.

-Chris





> I know I can use Idle to utilize the 3.4.2 version but I prefer to use a
> different editor. I?m not sure if I can do this with a script or plist so
> any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Scott
>
> You can have your own opinions but you can?t have your own facts. Truth is
> not a democracy. It doesn?t give a shit what you believe.
>
> ? Ricky Gervais
>
>
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From jlundell at pobox.com  Wed Nov 26 23:09:08 2014
From: jlundell at pobox.com (Jonathan Lundell)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 14:09:08 -0800
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Python 3.4.2 as default version
In-Reply-To: <CALGmxELWXX7N67fUnpuZ+iZ89=p_7A31-mxbmFCgKH9TM-qcgA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AF551A12-5C2C-4F2A-98AB-2D7A2FAC6C5D@mac.com>
 <CALGmxELWXX7N67fUnpuZ+iZ89=p_7A31-mxbmFCgKH9TM-qcgA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D0B40D9F-A58D-42F1-9674-3B380BE3DD80@pobox.com>

> On 26 Nov 2014, at 2:00 PM, Chris Barker <chris.barker at noaa.gov> wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Scott Clausen <scottclausen at mac.com <mailto:scottclausen at mac.com>> wrote:
> I?ve been searching the sites to find out how to set the latest version of Python, 3.4.2, as the default version. So far I?ve not been able to do so.
> 
> you put it first on your PATH in .bash_profile
> 
> If you installed from the dmg on python.org <http://python.org/>, it should have done that for you.
> 

Though you might want to consider that there are other Python clients around that might not like Python 3 all that well. I?ve seen a suggestion floating around (Stack Overflow IIRC) that one might create a ?python3? alias, and hash-bang to that where needed. Or whatever.

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From scottclausen at mac.com  Wed Nov 26 23:02:27 2014
From: scottclausen at mac.com (Scott Clausen)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 14:02:27 -0800
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Python 3.4.2 as default version
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LRH.2.10.1411261628420.15889@maniac.deathstar.org>
References: <AF551A12-5C2C-4F2A-98AB-2D7A2FAC6C5D@mac.com>
 <alpine.LRH.2.10.1411261628420.15889@maniac.deathstar.org>
Message-ID: <3E7C097C-4818-4919-8FB9-C912D253A414@mac.com>

John,

Sorry for that omission. I'm on Yosemite on a 2009 iMac.

Scott

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 26, 2014, at 13:29, John Lewis <jklewis at deathstar.org> wrote:
> 
> What OS are you using?
> 
>> On Wed, 26 Nov 2014, Scott Clausen wrote:
>> 
>> I?ve been searching the sites to find out how to set the latest version
>> of Python, 3.4.2, as the default version. So far I?ve not been able to
>> do so.
>> I know I can use Idle to utilize the 3.4.2 version but I prefer to use
>> a different editor. I?m not sure if I can do this with a script or
>> plist so any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
>> Thanks,
>> Scott 
>> You can have your own opinions but you can?t have your own facts. Truth
>> is not a democracy. It doesn?t give a shit what you believe.
>> ? Ricky Gervais

From nad at acm.org  Wed Nov 26 23:37:52 2014
From: nad at acm.org (Ned Deily)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 14:37:52 -0800
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Python 3.4.2 as default version
References: <AF551A12-5C2C-4F2A-98AB-2D7A2FAC6C5D@mac.com>
 <CALGmxELWXX7N67fUnpuZ+iZ89=p_7A31-mxbmFCgKH9TM-qcgA@mail.gmail.com>
 <D0B40D9F-A58D-42F1-9674-3B380BE3DD80@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <nad-C3BCBE.14375226112014@news.gmane.org>

In article <D0B40D9F-A58D-42F1-9674-3B380BE3DD80 at pobox.com>,
 Jonathan Lundell <jlundell at pobox.com> wrote:

> > On 26 Nov 2014, at 2:00 PM, Chris Barker <chris.barker at noaa.gov> wrote:
> > 
> > On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Scott Clausen <scottclausen at mac.com 
> > <mailto:scottclausen at mac.com>> wrote:
> > I've been searching the sites to find out how to set the latest version of 
> > Python, 3.4.2, as the default version. So far I've not been able to do so.
> > 
> > you put it first on your PATH in .bash_profile
> > 
> > If you installed from the dmg on python.org <http://python.org/>, it should 
> > have done that for you.
> > 
> 
> Though you might want to consider that there are other Python clients around 
> that might not like Python 3 all that well. I've seen a suggestion floating 
> around (Stack Overflow IIRC) that one might create a 'python3' alias, and 
> hash-bang to that where needed. Or whatever.

Python 3.4 normally comes with a python3 alias.  If you use the 
python.org Python 3.4 installers, the default names installed for 
invoking it are: "python3" and "python3.4" and possible others, like 
"python3-32".  It does not include "python" which is, by default, 
reserved for Python 2.x installations.  One exception is within active 
virtual environments such as provided by virtualenv or Python 3's native 
pyvenv.  If you install a Python 2.7 from python.org, it will be 
accessible by "python2.7", "python2", and "python".  That allows both 
Python 3 and 2 to co-exist.  If you want to override that, you can 
create or modify symlinks in the framework bin directories (in 
/Library/Frameworks) and/or in /usr/local/bin.  Whatever you do, don't 
try to modify or uninstall the Apple supplied system Pythons in /usr/bin 
and /System/Library/Frameworks..

-- 
 Ned Deily,
 nad at acm.org