From matthew.brett at gmail.com  Tue Apr  8 19:58:22 2014
From: matthew.brett at gmail.com (Matthew Brett)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 10:58:22 -0700
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Wiki, and page on OSX wheels
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Hi,

I set up a Github wiki for MacPython:

https://github.com/MacPython/wiki/wiki

I also wrote a page on the current status of OSX binary wheels:

https://github.com/MacPython/wiki/wiki/Spinning-wheels

Thanks to Chris Barker for setting up the MacPython github organization.

Any comments very welcome on the binary wheels page...

Cheers,

Matthew

From matthew.brett at gmail.com  Wed Apr  9 01:13:52 2014
From: matthew.brett at gmail.com (Matthew Brett)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 16:13:52 -0700
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Wiki, and page on OSX wheels
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Hi,

On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Christopher Barker <pythonchb at gmail.com> wrote:
> Mathew,
>
> This is great, thanks!
>
> I can't remember what the hold-up is with iPython -- I think it was the
> some-time require readline issue? But I thought that that was semi-resolved
> -- any idea what the deal is with that?

I think ipython is done already - there was a problem with readline,
but now ipython depends on gnureadline, and that fixed it.  IPython
has wheels, but they are not binary because it's a pure python
package.  On my machine in a clean virtualenv:

$ pip install ipython

Downloading/unpacking ipython

  Downloading ipython-2.0.0-py27-none-any.whl (2.8MB): 2.8MB downloaded

Downloading/unpacking gnureadline (from ipython)

  Downloading gnureadline-6.2.5-cp27-none-macosx_10_6_intel.whl
(245kB): 245kB downloaded

Installing collected packages: ipython, gnureadline

Successfully installed ipython gnureadline

Cleaning up...

> It'll be pretty cool to get the full
> scipy stack up there.

scipy should be done when the imminent new release comes out.  Then I
guess pandas and so on.  So - not long now I think.

> Oh, and PIllow next....

Do you know the Pillow team at all?  Maybe they'd accept help for
wheel building?

Cheers,

Matthew

From matthew.brett at gmail.com  Sat Apr 12 02:40:01 2014
From: matthew.brett at gmail.com (Matthew Brett)
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 17:40:01 -0700
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Wiki, and page on OSX wheels
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Hi,

On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Christopher Barker <pythonchb at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, April 8, 2014, Matthew Brett <matthew.brett at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> $ pip install ipython
>>
> ...
>>
>>
>> Successfully installed ipython gnureadline
>>
> Very nice!
>
> Do you get the notebook? That needs XML and tornado, I think.

For that you want:

pip install ipython[notebook]

Tornado is the current fly-in-the-wheel-ointment, because it does
invoke a compiler, and I think the current version crashes on OSX
without a compiler.  There's a bugfix in master, but maybe they will
agree to put up a binary wheel on the next release.

>> scipy should be done when the imminent new release comes out.  Then I
>> guess pandas and so on.  So - not long now I think.
>>
> Wonderful -- I'm interested in all this because i'm teaching 2! Python
> classes this spring, and it's been a bit of a mess for students. They are
> not scipy-focused, but I want to introduce at least numpy and matplotlib,
> and use iPython. Meanwhile, my co-instructor is a web developer, and REALLY
> likes virtualenv. It's been a real challenge Giving the students one way to
> do it. Some of the tangles messes of apples python, Macports, anaconda, and
> N virtualenvs got Really ugly!

I think soon just Python.org python will cover it, with binary wheels
going into the virtualenvs.

>> Do you know the Pillow team at all?  Maybe they'd accept help for
>> wheel building?
>
>
> I've interacted with them a tiny bit on the image-dig list. They are all
> about keeping PIL maintained and easy to install. So yes, I'll bet they'd
> love Mac wheels.
>
> After all, the fork started as a way to make PIL easy-installable.
>
>  Russell  Owen has a nice binary build set up-- Russell, are you following
> this?

I had a quick look :

$ delocate-listdeps Pillow-2.4.0-cp27-none-macosx_10_6_intel.whl -a -d
/Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework/Versions/8.5/Tcl:
    PIL/_imagingtk.so
/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/8.5/Tk:
    PIL/_imagingtk.so
/usr/X11/lib/libfreetype.6.dylib:
    PIL/_imagingft.so
/usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib:
    PIL/_imagingft.so
    PIL/_imagingmath.so
    PIL/_imagingtk.so
    PIL/_imaging.so
/usr/lib/libz.1.dylib:
    PIL/_imaging.so

I don't know if libz is safe to depend on, I guess it is.

I think libfreetype comes from XQuartz on later OSX, I can't remember
where the Tk.framework came from.  In any case, delocate-wheel copies
those guys and puts them in the archive, wheels here;

https://nipy.bic.berkeley.edu/scipy_installers/

pip install -U pip
pip install -f https://nipy.bic.berkeley.edu/scipy_installers Pillow

Do they work for you?

Cheers,

Matthew