[Pythonmac-SIG] Kivy python GUI

[Bill Janssen]

Michael O'Donnell <micko at wagsoft.com> wrote:

> Saw a link to Kivy, which seems to be a newish GUI for
> python, works on most platforms, including iOS and Android.
> 
> Anyone played around with it?

I had to upgrade my Mac finally from Leopard to Snow Leopard to get the
level of OpenGL support it needs.

> Seems to offer a basic canvas with draw ops. On a quick
> look, couldn't see any more complex widgets, except
> for buttons, but they may be there (the documentation
> is not that straight forward).

http://kivy.org/docs/guide/widgets.html

A fairly complete modern widget set.

> Mick (looking for a cross-platform pythin GUI)

Aren't we all, Mick?

Bill

> 
> 
> On 10 July 2013 11:35, Paul Wiseman <poalman at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 9 July 2013 17:12, Chris Barker - NOAA Federal <chris.barker at noaa.gov>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> oops, sent only to Paul the first time....
> >>
> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> From: Chris Barker - NOAA Federal <chris.barker at noaa.gov>
> >>
> >> Paul,
> >>
> >> > Qt looks great from my first impressions but one thing I'm not too sure
> >> > about is how native it can go, I know the controls are native and will
> >> > use
> >> > carbon/cocoa underneath on mac for example.
> >>
> >> Personally I've used wxPython for years -- it would be a good option
> >> as well (and does use Cocoa under the hood in recent versions, so
> >> injecting some custom Ma-only code in there is quite doable.
> >>
> >> A lot of folks like QT a lot, it may be a good way to go -- honestly,
> >> I've stuck with wx mostly due to inertia -- never really considering
> >> alternatives.
> >>
> >
> > I've used wxpython a lot in the past, and maintain some code that uses it
> > and I do like it, there are a couple of bits that have put me off though.
> > There doesn't seem to be an obvious way to implement an MVC type pattern
> > with it. I haven't used Qt much at all yet but QML looks extremely
> > interesting and pretty powerful. This signal and slots in qt reminds me a
> > lot of the outlet actions in the iOS world as well which helps a lot at
> > keeping everything de-coupled. I've found an awful lot of bugs with wx over
> > the time I've been using it as well which has put me off somewhat, but
> > that's probably true for a lot of systems/frameworks of that size that you
> > get very familiar with and use a lot.
> >
> >>
> >> However, there is a key design difference -- wx wraps the native
> >> widgets, and QT, for the most part, re-implements them with low-level
> >> primitives. So while a QT Window is probably a Cocoa Window, the
> >> individual buttons, etc are not native. I don't know to what extent
> >> you can override this, but I do know that most of the QT apps I've
> >> seen on the Mac are not very native: not even using the native file
> >> open dialogs and the like. I'd be shocked if you couldn't do better
> >> with some care, but QT does not appear to do a very good job of native
> >> out of the box.
> >
> >
> > Do you know any Qt apps for mac? It would be quite useful to take a look at
> > a few to help weigh up my options.
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> wxPython requires a bit of care to look and feel truly native as well,
> >> but it gets closer by default.
> >>
> >> IIUC, PySide is essentially an alternative to PyQT with a different
> >> (more liberal) licence. It is certainly under active development. For
> >> example, Enthought, Inc is relying on it for a lot of their stuff, and
> >> has hired Robin Dunn (ironically the wxPython founder/developer) to
> >> work on it. There was a sprint at last weeks' SciPy conference as
> >> well.
> >>
> >> If you do want to cal native code, PYObjC is likely the easiest way,
> >> but if that doesn't look right to you, Cython may be worth a shot --
> >> it's a good way to call C and C++ APIs.
> >>
> >> HTH,
> >>   -Chris
> >>
> >> --
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Christopher Barker, Ph.D.
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