From prologic at shortcircuit.net.au  Wed Nov  3 02:25:49 2010
From: prologic at shortcircuit.net.au (James Mills)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 11:25:49 +1000
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Mac OS X native DNS lookups
Message-ID: <AANLkTim+fK0y+ziLPSW6-jn7fmL_5eeqb74Eyy6TMhWk@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Been looking around the web for how you might resolve hostnames on Mac
OS X using OS X's sys calls to do so.

Can anyone shed any light on this ?

cheers
James

-- 
-- James Mills
--
-- "Problems are solved by method"

From njriley at illinois.edu  Wed Nov  3 02:47:07 2010
From: njriley at illinois.edu (Nicholas Riley)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 20:47:07 -0500
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Mac OS X native DNS lookups
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim+fK0y+ziLPSW6-jn7fmL_5eeqb74Eyy6TMhWk@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim+fK0y+ziLPSW6-jn7fmL_5eeqb74Eyy6TMhWk@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20101103014707.GA18167@illinois.edu>

On Wed, Nov 03, 2010 at 11:25:49AM +1000, James Mills wrote:
> Been looking around the web for how you might resolve hostnames on Mac
> OS X using OS X's sys calls to do so.
> 
> Can anyone shed any light on this ?

Try socket.gethostbyname for IPv4-only or socket.getaddrinfo for
IPv4/IPv6.  For example:

>>> import socket
>>> socket.gethostbyname('mary.local')
'192.168.71.1'
>>> socket.getaddrinfo('bookworm.griley.members.mac.com', None, socket.AF_INET6, socket.SOCK_STREAM)
[(30, 1, 6, '', ('fda1:5f1b:430f:37cc:214:51ff:fe0b:d94', 0, 0, 0))]

Check the Python docs (http://docs.python.org/library/socket.html) for
information on the tuples returned by getaddrinfo.

-- 
Nicholas Riley <njriley at illinois.edu>

From prologic at shortcircuit.net.au  Wed Nov  3 03:16:34 2010
From: prologic at shortcircuit.net.au (James Mills)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 12:16:34 +1000
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Mac OS X native DNS lookups
In-Reply-To: <20101103014707.GA18167@illinois.edu>
References: <AANLkTim+fK0y+ziLPSW6-jn7fmL_5eeqb74Eyy6TMhWk@mail.gmail.com>
	<20101103014707.GA18167@illinois.edu>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimhgMO0__2c1XqVEXSTrO5UxFUP_FCwu69gbC-J@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Nicholas Riley <njriley at illinois.edu> wrote:
> Try socket.gethostbyname for IPv4-only or socket.getaddrinfo for
> IPv4/IPv6. ?For example:
>
>>>> import socket
>>>> socket.gethostbyname('mary.local')
> '192.168.71.1'
>>>> socket.getaddrinfo('bookworm.griley.members.mac.com', None, socket.AF_INET6, socket.SOCK_STREAM)
> [(30, 1, 6, '', ('fda1:5f1b:430f:37cc:214:51ff:fe0b:d94', 0, 0, 0))]

The problem with this (that we have) is that when/if the dns servers change
(example: unplug the wire, turn on the wireless) this method of resolving names
isn't able to tell that the dns servers have changed quickly enough.

On Windows we've solved this by hooking into win32 calls (windns I believe)
and using ctypes.

We're after something similar on the Mac OS X platform ideally...

cheers
James

-- 
-- James Mills
--
-- "Problems are solved by method"

From njriley at illinois.edu  Wed Nov  3 03:32:43 2010
From: njriley at illinois.edu (Nicholas Riley)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 21:32:43 -0500
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Mac OS X native DNS lookups
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimhgMO0__2c1XqVEXSTrO5UxFUP_FCwu69gbC-J@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim+fK0y+ziLPSW6-jn7fmL_5eeqb74Eyy6TMhWk@mail.gmail.com>
	<20101103014707.GA18167@illinois.edu>
	<AANLkTimhgMO0__2c1XqVEXSTrO5UxFUP_FCwu69gbC-J@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20101103023243.GA21184@illinois.edu>

On Wed, Nov 03, 2010 at 12:16:34PM +1000, James Mills wrote:
> The problem with this (that we have) is that when/if the dns servers change
> (example: unplug the wire, turn on the wireless) this method of resolving names
> isn't able to tell that the dns servers have changed quickly enough.
> 
> On Windows we've solved this by hooking into win32 calls (windns I believe)
> and using ctypes.
> 
> We're after something similar on the Mac OS X platform ideally...

socket.* *does* use the Mac native resolution mechanism.  What you're
running into is that they cache too aggressively; I've noticed this
myself especially on 10.6.

Executing 'dscacheutil -flushcache' should help; it doesn't require
any privileges.  You can use the SystemConfiguration framework to
watch for DNS changes (State:/Network/Global/DNS).  It's wrapped by
PyObjC.  At least on my 10.5 Mac here there's a demo script in
/Developer/Examples/Python/PyObjC/SystemConfiguration/CallbackDemo/callbacks.py
which registers for dynamic store notifications.  You could also talk
to scutil if you wanted; it's also got the ability to register for
notifications:

% scutil
> n.add State:/Network/Global/DNS
> n.watch
> notification callback (store address = 0x103730).
  changed key [0] = State:/Network/Global/DNS

-- 
Nicholas Riley <njriley at illinois.edu>

From prologic at shortcircuit.net.au  Wed Nov  3 03:38:41 2010
From: prologic at shortcircuit.net.au (James Mills)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 12:38:41 +1000
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Mac OS X native DNS lookups
In-Reply-To: <20101103023243.GA21184@illinois.edu>
References: <AANLkTim+fK0y+ziLPSW6-jn7fmL_5eeqb74Eyy6TMhWk@mail.gmail.com>
	<20101103014707.GA18167@illinois.edu>
	<AANLkTimhgMO0__2c1XqVEXSTrO5UxFUP_FCwu69gbC-J@mail.gmail.com>
	<20101103023243.GA21184@illinois.edu>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinATfj87xt643EoFMT_cX53Wu36LrYdELeEB527@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Nicholas Riley <njriley at illinois.edu> wrote:
> At least on my 10.5 Mac here there's a demo script in
> /Developer/Examples/Python/PyObjC/SystemConfiguration/CallbackDemo/callbacks.py

I don't seem to have a "Python" directory in /Developer/Examples/ on
my Mac (10.6.4)

cheers
James

-- 
-- James Mills
--
-- "Problems are solved by method"

From njriley at illinois.edu  Wed Nov  3 03:56:40 2010
From: njriley at illinois.edu (Nicholas Riley)
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 21:56:40 -0500
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Mac OS X native DNS lookups
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinATfj87xt643EoFMT_cX53Wu36LrYdELeEB527@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim+fK0y+ziLPSW6-jn7fmL_5eeqb74Eyy6TMhWk@mail.gmail.com>
	<20101103014707.GA18167@illinois.edu>
	<AANLkTimhgMO0__2c1XqVEXSTrO5UxFUP_FCwu69gbC-J@mail.gmail.com>
	<20101103023243.GA21184@illinois.edu>
	<AANLkTinATfj87xt643EoFMT_cX53Wu36LrYdELeEB527@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20101103025640.GA23641@illinois.edu>

On Wed, Nov 03, 2010 at 12:38:41PM +1000, James Mills wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Nicholas Riley <njriley at illinois.edu> wrote:
> > At least on my 10.5 Mac here there's a demo script in
> > /Developer/Examples/Python/PyObjC/SystemConfiguration/CallbackDemo/callbacks.py
> 
> I don't seem to have a "Python" directory in /Developer/Examples/ on
> my Mac (10.6.4)

It's distributed with PyObjC - you can also get it from
http://svn.red-bean.com/pyobjc/trunk/pyobjc/pyobjc-framework-SystemConfiguration/Examples/CallbackDemo/

-- 
Nicholas Riley <njriley at illinois.edu>

From prologic at shortcircuit.net.au  Wed Nov  3 04:07:34 2010
From: prologic at shortcircuit.net.au (James Mills)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 13:07:34 +1000
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] pyobjc-framework-ScreenSaver-2.3 fails to install
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=mFs0yEu1Zz6biDd3Bssr6-YdxB4jF-TskheW0@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I probably don't need the pyobjc-framework-ScreenSaver-2.3 but doing
an "easy_install pyobjc" tries to
download, compile and install this and fails with several errors:

Installed /Library/Python/2.6/site-packages/pyobjc_framework_SearchKit-2.3-py2.6.egg
Searching for pyobjc-framework-ScreenSaver==2.3
Reading http://pypi.python.org/simple/pyobjc-framework-ScreenSaver/
Best match: pyobjc-framework-ScreenSaver 2.3
Downloading http://pypi.python.org/packages/source/p/pyobjc-framework-ScreenSaver/pyobjc-framework-ScreenSaver-2.3.tar.gz#md5=f8e9300351df4b8b38e9965b2319562b
Processing pyobjc-framework-ScreenSaver-2.3.tar.gz
Running pyobjc-framework-ScreenSaver-2.3/setup.py -q bdist_egg
--dist-dir /var/folders/he/healpZWsEkCMBaftAtzVq1OdgRM/-Tmp-/easy_install-SmH6sH/pyobjc-framework-ScreenSaver-2.3/egg-dist-tmp-OGTK8D
hgtools.SubprocessManager('.') could not find files: abort: There is
no Mercurial repository here (.hg not found)!
Modules/_ScreenSaver_inlines.m:5: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm'
or '__attribute__' before 'function_map'
Modules/_ScreenSaver_inlines.m:18: warning: return type defaults to 'int'
Modules/_ScreenSaver_inlines.m:18: warning: function declaration isn't
a prototype
Modules/_ScreenSaver_inlines.m: In function 'PyObjC_MODULE_INIT':
Modules/_ScreenSaver_inlines.m:19: warning: implicit declaration of
function 'PyObjC_MODULE_CREATE'
Modules/_ScreenSaver_inlines.m:19: warning: initialization makes
pointer from integer without a cast
Modules/_ScreenSaver_inlines.m:21: warning: implicit declaration of
function 'PyObjC_INITERROR'
Modules/_ScreenSaver_inlines.m:25: warning: implicit declaration of
function 'PyObjC_CreateInlineTab'
Modules/_ScreenSaver_inlines.m:25: error: 'function_map' undeclared
(first use in this function)
Modules/_ScreenSaver_inlines.m:25: error: (Each undeclared identifier
is reported only once
Modules/_ScreenSaver_inlines.m:25: error: for each function it appears in.)
Modules/_ScreenSaver_inlines.m:25: warning: passing argument 3 of
'PyModule_AddObject' makes pointer from integer without a cast
Modules/_ScreenSaver_inlines.m:29: warning: implicit declaration of
function 'PyObjC_INITDONE'
Modules/_ScreenSaver_inlines.m:5: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm'
or '__attribute__' before 'function_map'
Modules/_ScreenSaver_inlines.m:18: warning: return type defaults to 'int'
Modules/_ScreenSaver_inlines.m:18: warning: function declaration isn't
a prototype
Modules/_ScreenSaver_inlines.m: In function 'PyObjC_MODULE_INIT':
Modules/_ScreenSaver_inlines.m:19: warning: implicit declaration of
function 'PyObjC_MODULE_CREATE'
Modules/_ScreenSaver_inlines.m:19: warning: initialization makes
pointer from integer without a cast
Modules/_ScreenSaver_inlines.m:21: warning: implicit declaration of
function 'PyObjC_INITERROR'
Modules/_ScreenSaver_inlines.m:25: warning: implicit declaration of
function 'PyObjC_CreateInlineTab'
Modules/_ScreenSaver_inlines.m:25: error: 'function_map' undeclared
(first use in this function)
Modules/_ScreenSaver_inlines.m:25: error: (Each undeclared identifier
is reported only once
Modules/_ScreenSaver_inlines.m:25: error: for each function it appears in.)
Modules/_ScreenSaver_inlines.m:25: warning: passing argument 3 of
'PyModule_AddObject' makes pointer from integer without a cast
Modules/_ScreenSaver_inlines.m:29: warning: implicit declaration of
function 'PyObjC_INITDONE'
Modules/_ScreenSaver_inlines.m:5: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm'
or '__attribute__' before 'function_map'
Modules/_ScreenSaver_inlines.m:18: warning: return type defaults to 'int'
Modules/_ScreenSaver_inlines.m:18: warning: function declaration isn't
a prototype
Modules/_ScreenSaver_inlines.m: In function 'PyObjC_MODULE_INIT':
Modules/_ScreenSaver_inlines.m:19: warning: implicit declaration of
function 'PyObjC_MODULE_CREATE'
Modules/_ScreenSaver_inlines.m:19: warning: initialization makes
pointer from integer without a cast
Modules/_ScreenSaver_inlines.m:21: warning: implicit declaration of
function 'PyObjC_INITERROR'
Modules/_ScreenSaver_inlines.m:25: warning: implicit declaration of
function 'PyObjC_CreateInlineTab'
Modules/_ScreenSaver_inlines.m:25: error: 'function_map' undeclared
(first use in this function)
Modules/_ScreenSaver_inlines.m:25: error: (Each undeclared identifier
is reported only once
Modules/_ScreenSaver_inlines.m:25: error: for each function it appears in.)
Modules/_ScreenSaver_inlines.m:25: warning: passing argument 3 of
'PyModule_AddObject' makes pointer from integer without a cast
Modules/_ScreenSaver_inlines.m:29: warning: implicit declaration of
function 'PyObjC_INITDONE'
lipo: can't open input file:
/var/folders/he/healpZWsEkCMBaftAtzVq1OdgRM/-Tmp-//ccgeMtyF.out (No
such file or directory)
error: Setup script exited with error: command 'gcc-4.2' failed with
exit status 1

I'm using Mac OS X 10.6.4

cheers
James

-- 
-- James Mills
--
-- "Problems are solved by method"

From half.italian at gmail.com  Wed Nov  3 19:59:57 2010
From: half.italian at gmail.com (Sean DiZazzo)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 11:59:57 -0700
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app/wx font embed problem
Message-ID: <AANLkTimJUbdeOAHkuExzzJ5J8KeHY5H=ND8vi+Bdkerm@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I'm trying to package an app for both windows and mac.  It uses wxpython,
MySQLdb and SQLObject.  On Windows, I used py2exe, and got it working right
away.  On my mac, I have had problems getting it to work.  I am using
python2.6 on darwin ports along with the needed libraries.

When I run the app from the command line using the darwin ports Python
version, it opens up ok, and there are no font problems.  When I use the
same interpreter and package it into a ".app" application, it opens ok, but
each text character is replaced by a box.  I built the interface with
wxFormBuilder, so I am a bit removed from the actual GUI code.  I did,
though, try changing the default font several different ways and
recompiling.  It didn't help.

Python 2.6.6 (r266:84292, Oct 28 2010, 14:05:04)
wx-2.8-gtk2-unicode
py2app-0.5.3-py2.6.egg

Any ideas?

~Sean
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From aahz at pythoncraft.com  Wed Nov  3 20:32:04 2010
From: aahz at pythoncraft.com (Aahz)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 12:32:04 -0700
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app/wx font embed problem
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimJUbdeOAHkuExzzJ5J8KeHY5H=ND8vi+Bdkerm@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimJUbdeOAHkuExzzJ5J8KeHY5H=ND8vi+Bdkerm@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20101103193204.GB688@panix.com>

On Wed, Nov 03, 2010, Sean DiZazzo wrote:
>
> I'm trying to package an app for both windows and mac.  It uses wxpython,
> MySQLdb and SQLObject.  On Windows, I used py2exe, and got it working right
> away.  On my mac, I have had problems getting it to work.  I am using
> python2.6 on darwin ports along with the needed libraries.

You are likely better off using the python.org build.
-- 
Aahz (aahz at pythoncraft.com)           <*>         http://www.pythoncraft.com/

"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait
until you hire an amateur."  --Red Adair

From half.italian at gmail.com  Wed Nov  3 20:47:49 2010
From: half.italian at gmail.com (Sean DiZazzo)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 12:47:49 -0700
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app/wx font embed problem
In-Reply-To: <20101103193204.GB688@panix.com>
References: <AANLkTimJUbdeOAHkuExzzJ5J8KeHY5H=ND8vi+Bdkerm@mail.gmail.com>
	<20101103193204.GB688@panix.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimWLXarUfNbHaXTdzeDT-qmmPpawRZ3LeZbFD=g@mail.gmail.com>

Ok.  Thanks.  I'll give it a try (again).  I had some problems getting
MySQLdb installed previously, so I figured I'd give darwin ports a
try...where MySQLdb installed without a hitch.

uggh


On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Aahz <aahz at pythoncraft.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 03, 2010, Sean DiZazzo wrote:
> >
> > I'm trying to package an app for both windows and mac.  It uses wxpython,
> > MySQLdb and SQLObject.  On Windows, I used py2exe, and got it working
> right
> > away.  On my mac, I have had problems getting it to work.  I am using
> > python2.6 on darwin ports along with the needed libraries.
>
> You are likely better off using the python.org build.
> --
> Aahz (aahz at pythoncraft.com)           <*>
> http://www.pythoncraft.com/
>
> "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait
> until you hire an amateur."  --Red Adair
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From pedrogazzola at gmail.com  Wed Nov  3 21:32:15 2010
From: pedrogazzola at gmail.com (Pedro Gazzola)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 18:32:15 -0200
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Amateur question about modules
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=KFFZA6dx8x77XUNxjgDZqJaV4ZejuT=fBFPzb@mail.gmail.com>

"ImportError: No module named tkSnack"

I tried to run one script on the Python Launcher and got this import error.

So, how can I correctly import this module?
And where should I put it, so Python can find it.

Thanks for any help.
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From aahz at pythoncraft.com  Wed Nov  3 23:10:33 2010
From: aahz at pythoncraft.com (Aahz)
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 15:10:33 -0700
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app/wx font embed problem
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimWLXarUfNbHaXTdzeDT-qmmPpawRZ3LeZbFD=g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimJUbdeOAHkuExzzJ5J8KeHY5H=ND8vi+Bdkerm@mail.gmail.com>
	<20101103193204.GB688@panix.com>
	<AANLkTimWLXarUfNbHaXTdzeDT-qmmPpawRZ3LeZbFD=g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20101103221033.GA10749@panix.com>

On Wed, Nov 03, 2010, Sean DiZazzo wrote:
>
> Ok.  Thanks.  I'll give it a try (again).  I had some problems getting
> MySQLdb installed previously, so I figured I'd give darwin ports a
> try...where MySQLdb installed without a hitch.

Yeah, unfortunately my perception is that GUI stuff tends to either
require the python.org build or a careful manual build (making sure you
get all the framework stuff correct).
-- 
Aahz (aahz at pythoncraft.com)           <*>         http://www.pythoncraft.com/

"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait
until you hire an amateur."  --Red Adair

From kw at codebykevin.com  Wed Nov  3 23:30:12 2010
From: kw at codebykevin.com (Kevin Walzer)
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 18:30:12 -0400
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Amateur question about modules
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=KFFZA6dx8x77XUNxjgDZqJaV4ZejuT=fBFPzb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=KFFZA6dx8x77XUNxjgDZqJaV4ZejuT=fBFPzb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4CD1E274.9000306@codebykevin.com>

On 11/3/10 4:32 PM, Pedro Gazzola wrote:
> "ImportError: No module named tkSnack"
>
> I tried to run one script on the Python Launcher and got this import error.
>
> So, how can I correctly import this module?
> And where should I put it, so Python can find it.
>
> Thanks for any help.


TkSnack is a Tkinter wrapper for the Snack sound library. You'll need to 
install TkSnack in your site-packages path and Snack in a place where 
Tkinter can find it like /Library/Tcl. Google can direct you to download 
sites.

-- 
Kevin Walzer
Code by Kevin
http://www.codebykevin.com

From klaasmer at gmail.com  Mon Nov  1 23:11:36 2010
From: klaasmer at gmail.com (Klaasmer)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 23:11:36 +0100
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] os.getcwd() returns lower case current working
	directory
Message-ID: <98B8E796-EEB7-4C19-92B9-200BFED9A799@gmail.com>

Hi there,

when I call os.getcwd() on my Mac under OS X 10.6.4 from my home directory, the path is converted to lowercase. I get

/users/myusername

instead of

/Users/myusername

On another Mac I get the correct uppercase string. How can I configure this? Is there a (hidden) Python setting?

Reason for asking: On OS X all user directories are in "/Users". This is always uppercase. When using Mercurial, it gets sometimes confused with this strange and incorrect normalization of my current directory.


Best regards,
Klaas.
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From nad at acm.org  Thu Nov  4 06:07:55 2010
From: nad at acm.org (Ned Deily)
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 22:07:55 -0700
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] os.getcwd() returns lower case current working
	directory
References: <98B8E796-EEB7-4C19-92B9-200BFED9A799@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <nad-36E882.22075503112010@news.gmane.org>

In article <98B8E796-EEB7-4C19-92B9-200BFED9A799 at gmail.com>,
 Klaasmer <klaasmer at gmail.com> wrote:
> when I call os.getcwd() on my Mac under OS X 10.6.4 from my home directory, 
> the path is converted to lowercase. I get
> 
> /users/myusername
> 
> instead of
> 
> /Users/myusername
> 
> On another Mac I get the correct uppercase string. How can I configure this? 
> Is there a (hidden) Python setting?
> 
> Reason for asking: On OS X all user directories are in "/Users". This is 
> always uppercase. When using Mercurial, it gets sometimes confused with this 
> strange and incorrect normalization of my current directory.

[Note to readers here:  the OP asked this question also on Stack 
Overflow and has subsequently found that the same behavior is exhibited 
by an ObjC program.  So it turns out to not be a Python issue at all.]

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4073469/how-can-i-get-the-correct-case
-when-calling-pythons-os-getcwd

-- 
 Ned Deily,
 nad at acm.org


From half.italian at gmail.com  Thu Nov  4 15:58:09 2010
From: half.italian at gmail.com (Sean DiZazzo)
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 07:58:09 -0700
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] os.getcwd() returns lower case current working
	directory
In-Reply-To: <98B8E796-EEB7-4C19-92B9-200BFED9A799@gmail.com>
References: <98B8E796-EEB7-4C19-92B9-200BFED9A799@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimLjRdc=-=QFZq7P5CiDs=pgqc7_SP5Rs-C734L@mail.gmail.com>

When formatting a drive last week, I noticed that Mac allows you to format
as case-insensitive.  Just a guess.

On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Klaasmer <klaasmer at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> when I call os.getcwd() on my Mac under OS X 10.6.4 from my home directory,
> the path is converted to lowercase. I get
>
> /users/myusername
>
> instead of
>
> /Users/myusername
>
> On another Mac I get the correct uppercase string. How can I configure
> this? Is there a (hidden) Python setting?
>
> Reason for asking: On OS X all user directories are in "/Users". This is
> always uppercase. When using Mercurial, it gets sometimes confused with this
> strange and incorrect normalization of my current directory.
>
> Best regards,
> Klaas.
>
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From rowen at uw.edu  Thu Nov  4 18:15:21 2010
From: rowen at uw.edu (Russell E. Owen)
Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2010 10:15:21 -0700
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Amateur question about modules
References: <AANLkTi=KFFZA6dx8x77XUNxjgDZqJaV4ZejuT=fBFPzb@mail.gmail.com>
	<4CD1E274.9000306@codebykevin.com>
Message-ID: <rowen-EDBDA2.10152104112010@news.gmane.org>

In article <4CD1E274.9000306 at codebykevin.com>,
 Kevin Walzer <kw at codebykevin.com> wrote:

> On 11/3/10 4:32 PM, Pedro Gazzola wrote:
> > "ImportError: No module named tkSnack"
> >
> > I tried to run one script on the Python Launcher and got this import error.
> >
> > So, how can I correctly import this module?
> > And where should I put it, so Python can find it.
> >
> > Thanks for any help.
> 
> 
> TkSnack is a Tkinter wrapper for the Snack sound library. You'll need to 
> install TkSnack in your site-packages path and Snack in a place where 
> Tkinter can find it like /Library/Tcl. Google can direct you to download 
> sites.

Also be warned: the snack sound library is very outdated. I suggest you 
look at pygame instead; it has a binary installer and will play sounds.

-- Russell


From Chris.Barker at noaa.gov  Thu Nov  4 18:02:10 2010
From: Chris.Barker at noaa.gov (Christopher Barker)
Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2010 10:02:10 -0700
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Amateur question about modules
In-Reply-To: <4CD1E274.9000306@codebykevin.com>
References: <AANLkTi=KFFZA6dx8x77XUNxjgDZqJaV4ZejuT=fBFPzb@mail.gmail.com>
	<4CD1E274.9000306@codebykevin.com>
Message-ID: <4CD2E712.9080107@noaa.gov>

On 11/3/10 3:30 PM, Kevin Walzer wrote:
>> So, how can I correctly import this module?
>> And where should I put it, so Python can find it.

> TkSnack is a Tkinter wrapper for the Snack sound library. You'll need to
> install TkSnack in your site-packages path and Snack in a place where
> Tkinter can find it like /Library/Tcl. Google can direct you to download
> sites.

Chances are, TkSnack will come as an egg which you can easy_install, or 
a with a setup.py that will isntall it to the right place for you:

python setup.py install

Just make sure "python" runs the python you think it does.

-Chris


-- 
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Emergency Response Division
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From rowen at uw.edu  Fri Nov  5 20:23:01 2010
From: rowen at uw.edu (Russell E. Owen)
Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2010 12:23:01 -0700
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Amateur question about modules
References: <AANLkTi=KFFZA6dx8x77XUNxjgDZqJaV4ZejuT=fBFPzb@mail.gmail.com>
	<4CD1E274.9000306@codebykevin.com> <4CD2E712.9080107@noaa.gov>
Message-ID: <rowen-8B56E9.12230105112010@news.gmane.org>

In article <4CD2E712.9080107 at noaa.gov>,
 Christopher Barker <Chris.Barker at noaa.gov> wrote:

> On 11/3/10 3:30 PM, Kevin Walzer wrote:
> >> So, how can I correctly import this module?
> >> And where should I put it, so Python can find it.
> 
> > TkSnack is a Tkinter wrapper for the Snack sound library. You'll need to
> > install TkSnack in your site-packages path and Snack in a place where
> > Tkinter can find it like /Library/Tcl. Google can direct you to download
> > sites.
> 
> Chances are, TkSnack will come as an egg which you can easy_install, or 
> a with a setup.py that will isntall it to the right place for you:
> 
> python setup.py install
> 
> Just make sure "python" runs the python you think it does.
> 
> -Chris

Yes.

The snack source package does include a python subdirectory with the 
necessary trivial setup.py file (which I contributed). All it does is 
copy the one file tkSnack.py to site-packages; you can do that manually 
if you prefer.

Regards,

-- Russell


From erik at letterror.com  Sat Nov  6 12:54:25 2010
From: erik at letterror.com (Erik van Blokland)
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 12:54:25 +0100
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG]
	__import__('pkg_resources').declare_namespace(__name__)
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=225N-Y+B2v5gNKk5guRL8mjCyAZ1mDqweu4LE@mail.gmail.com>

I've found something interesting.

When using setuptools-0.6c11-py2.6.egg importing pkg_resources causes Carbon
and PyObjCTools to be loaded. With  setuptools-0.6c9-py2.6.egg this is not
the case.

This is relevant in situations where one doesn't want to import OSX API
modules before daemonising a process. For instance, when starting a twisted
server.

I don't know about why the c11 version imports these modules. I'm glad I
found a workaround. But the problem is bound to come back. So, any clues to
what c11 does that c9 doesn't?

Thanks!
Erik
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From carles at pina.cat  Mon Nov  8 13:35:26 2010
From: carles at pina.cat (Carles Pina i Estany)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 13:35:26 +0100
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Select application version
Message-ID: <20101108123526.GA29870@pinux.info>


Hello,

I'm not an advanced Applescript user, but I usually have a problem: how can I
choose the application version that I want my script to connect to?

Let's say that I have Microsoft Office 2004, 2008 and 2011. How can I select
the version in the tell statement?

The final use case is using Python, I thought that appscript.app() could have
some argument to specify it, but it seems that it doesn't have any. I also
tried appscript.app("Disk:Applications:Microsoft Office 2011:Microsoft Word")
without any luck ("Local applicatoin "Disk:Applications:..." not found)

Thank you,

-- 
Carles Pina i Estany
	http://pinux.info

From nad at acm.org  Mon Nov  8 21:44:08 2010
From: nad at acm.org (Ned Deily)
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 12:44:08 -0800
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Select application version
References: <20101108123526.GA29870@pinux.info>
Message-ID: <nad-0BE44C.12440808112010@dough.gmane.org>

In article <20101108123526.GA29870 at pinux.info>,
 Carles Pina i Estany <carles at pina.cat> wrote:
> I'm not an advanced Applescript user, but I usually have a problem: how can I
> choose the application version that I want my script to connect to?
> 
> Let's say that I have Microsoft Office 2004, 2008 and 2011. How can I select
> the version in the tell statement?
> 
> The final use case is using Python, I thought that appscript.app() could have
> some argument to specify it, but it seems that it doesn't have any. I also
> tried appscript.app("Disk:Applications:Microsoft Office 2011:Microsoft Word")
> without any luck ("Local applicatoin "Disk:Applications:..." not found)

Use a POSIX path to the application:

    app("/Applications/Microsoft Office 2011/Microsoft Word.app")

http://appscript.sourceforge.net/py-appscript/doc/appscript-manual/07_app
licationobjects.html

-- 
 Ned Deily,
 nad at acm.org


From letterror at gmail.com  Fri Nov  5 09:26:26 2010
From: letterror at gmail.com (Erik van Blokland)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 09:26:26 +0100
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG]
	__import__('pkg_resources').declare_namespace(__name__)
Message-ID: <250AC9DB-3179-4978-A97D-287332D90C38@gmail.com>

Hi,

Once more looking at the problem that keeps on giving. In short:
	http://code.activestate.com/lists/pythonmac-sig/22224/

Hard crash flagged with:
	USING_FORK_WITHOUT_EXEC_IS_NOT_SUPPORTED_BY_FILE_MANAGER

Background:
A helpful person on the twisted.web list found that loading specific modules (pyobjc, Quartz)  before a script was daemonized causes OSX 10.6 to crash. He fixed my test script by delaying OSX specific modules until after daemosing. The test script works locally. However, running the same test script on a mac mini server still has the same (or similarly flagged) crash. Both machines have the same python version, OSX version, pyobjc, twisted versions, 64bit, even user ID. Running it remotely via SSH or in a GUI yields the same results, (ssh into local machine, script works, ssh into remote machine, script doesn't work, screensharing into remote machine, script doesn't work)

Problem:
Another helpful person suggested there might be other modules that get loaded before daemonising. So I dumped sys.modules before and after daemonising, both local and remote, and compared. On the remote machine the MacOS and Carbon modules are loaded before daemonising, on the local machine they're not. (NB, I don't know if these imports are relevant to the Fork crash, but it seems prudent to find out). 
None of the modules called by my test script call Carbon directly but I found this line in a zope init, (a dependency of twisted) loads Carbon.  The cryptic import:

__import__('pkg_resources').declare_namespace(__name__)

I don't know what this means. Which conditions on the remote machine would cause this line to load Carbon?

#Test:
import sys
def printCarbonLoaded(when):
    print ("%s carbon is"%when), "Carbon" in sys.modules.keys()

printCarbonLoaded("1")
__import__('pkg_resources').declare_namespace(__name__)
printCarbonLoaded("2")

Results:
local machine:
1 carbon is False
2 carbon is False

remote machine:
1 carbon is False
2 carbon is True

Many thanks,
Erik
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From mfjlaw at gmail.com  Thu Nov 11 15:01:00 2010
From: mfjlaw at gmail.com (Mark Johannessen)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 06:01:00 -0800
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Searchable digest for this list?
Message-ID: <AANLkTikQga=qjBTpKjb3K7RRM-DP1fsUZRb5+_8QjfCh@mail.gmail.com>

Is there a searchable digest for this list?  I'm looking to resolve
the following error which seems to be tied to appscript:

Break on __THE_PROCESS_HAS_FORKED_AND_YOU_CANNOT_USE_THIS_COREFOUNDATION_FUNCTIONALITY___YOU_MUST_EXEC__()
to debug.

Mark J

From skip at pobox.com  Thu Nov 11 17:32:50 2010
From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com)
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 10:32:50 -0600
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Searchable digest for this list?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikQga=qjBTpKjb3K7RRM-DP1fsUZRb5+_8QjfCh@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikQga=qjBTpKjb3K7RRM-DP1fsUZRb5+_8QjfCh@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <19676.6834.701262.721663@montanaro.dyndns.org>

Google?  Searching for:

    site:mail.python.org Break on __THE_PROCESS_HAS_FORKED_AND_YOU_CANNOT_USE_THIS_COREFOUNDATION_FUNCTIONALITY___YOU_MUST_EXEC__() to debug.

yielded just two hits.

-- 
Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.smontanaro.net/

From rowen at uw.edu  Fri Nov 12 20:40:59 2010
From: rowen at uw.edu (Russell E. Owen)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 11:40:59 -0800
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] bdist_mpkg permissions bug
Message-ID: <rowen-25010B.11405912112010@news.gmane.org>

bdist_mpkg 0.4.4 has a nasty habit of making data files unreadable by 
anyone except the file owner (the umask ends in 00). For example when 
using bdist_mkpg to make an installer for matplotlib for all files in 
mpl-data end up with this issue.

There is a workaround: let bdist_mpkg run to completion, then delete the 
mpgk, fix the permissions in the build directory and run bdist_mpkg 
again.

Any idea who (if anyone) maintains this package and what might have 
changed to cause this problem? Older versions of bdist_mpkg did not 
exhibit this problem, though I'm not sure exactly when it appeared, nor 
whether it is in bdist_mpkg itself or a package it relies on.

-- Russell


From ronaldoussoren at mac.com  Tue Nov 16 12:10:30 2010
From: ronaldoussoren at mac.com (Ronald Oussoren)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 12:10:30 +0100
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Searchable digest for this list?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikQga=qjBTpKjb3K7RRM-DP1fsUZRb5+_8QjfCh@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikQga=qjBTpKjb3K7RRM-DP1fsUZRb5+_8QjfCh@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B86B53A2-B749-4395-9EF7-4450737DB536@mac.com>


On 11 Nov, 2010, at 15:01, Mark Johannessen wrote:

> Is there a searchable digest for this list?  I'm looking to resolve
> the following error which seems to be tied to appscript:
> 
> Break on __THE_PROCESS_HAS_FORKED_AND_YOU_CANNOT_USE_THIS_COREFOUNDATION_FUNCTIONALITY___YOU_MUST_EXEC__()
> to debug.

You started a new python process using os.fork and didn't call os.exec to start a new executable. Something you did initialized Apple's frameworks in the parent process and you then tried to use them in the child process (through appscript). Apple's Cocoa frameworks don't like this and in 10.6 crash the process with the message you mention.

Ronald
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From i at yaofur.com  Thu Nov 18 09:19:27 2010
From: i at yaofur.com (Fur Yao)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 16:19:27 +0800
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] How to add appscript module to a pyobjc project?
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=uZk73=srVAU9bF-na9q+n1LzEQF7-ygZqJne1@mail.gmail.com>

I have some problem

In my app , I want to use "appscript" .

I use easy_install appscript , and it works well in my python script.

But when I build a Mac app in xcode , an error appears.

>>>
   from appscript import app , k
ImportError: No module named appscript
>>>

Then I copy the appscript folder direct from
"/Library/Python/2.6/site-packages/appscript-0.21.1-py2.6-macosx-10.6-universal/"
to
the app's Resources folder.
and I also copy aem mactypes.py osax.py

And it appears:

"ImportError: Bad magic number in
/Users/Kebot/git/Giraffa/build/Debug/Giraffa.app/Contents/Resources/appscript/__init__.pyc"


Forgive my poor English.

-- 
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http://kebot.me/

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From nad at acm.org  Thu Nov 18 19:10:57 2010
From: nad at acm.org (Ned Deily)
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 10:10:57 -0800
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] How to add appscript module to a pyobjc project?
References: <AANLkTi=uZk73=srVAU9bF-na9q+n1LzEQF7-ygZqJne1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <nad-E106FC.10105618112010@dough.gmane.org>

In article 
<AANLkTi=uZk73=srVAU9bF-na9q+n1LzEQF7-ygZqJne1 at mail.gmail.com>,
 Fur Yao <i at yaofur.com> wrote:
> In my app , I want to use "appscript" .
> 
> I use easy_install appscript , and it works well in my python script.
> 
> But when I build a Mac app in xcode , an error appears.
> 
> >>>
>    from appscript import app , k
> ImportError: No module named appscript
> >>>
> 
> Then I copy the appscript folder direct from
> "/Library/Python/2.6/site-packages/appscript-0.21.1-py2.6-macosx-10.6-universa
> l/"
> to
> the app's Resources folder.
> and I also copy aem mactypes.py osax.py
> 
> And it appears:
> 
> "ImportError: Bad magic number in
> /Users/Kebot/git/Giraffa/build/Debug/Giraffa.app/Contents/Resources/appscript/
> __init__.pyc"

Your Xcode project is apparently using a different version of Python 
than the one appscript was installed with.  If you are on OS X 10.6, you 
may have the Xcode target set for 10.5 instead of 10.6 and, thus, are 
using the Apple-supplied python2.5 in your project.

For example:

$ /usr/bin/python2.6 
/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/python2.6/ma
cpath.pyc
$ /usr/bin/python2.5 
/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/python2.6/ma
cpath.pyc
RuntimeError: Bad magic number in .pyc file

If you do need to support 10.5, try installing appscript with python2.5, 
too.

$ /usr/bin/easy_install-2.5 appscript

-- 
 Ned Deily,
 nad at acm.org


From mfjlaw at gmail.com  Fri Nov 19 23:47:45 2010
From: mfjlaw at gmail.com (Mark Johannessen)
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 14:47:45 -0800
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] OS X compatibility of Appscript
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=up8Qr8+wVJ9Ku+viuSktmjA7nodj_iKbd5D7f@mail.gmail.com>

I think I've tracked down this error to the use of a python Appscript call:

The process has forked and you cannot use this CoreFoundation
functionality safely. You MUST exec().
Break on __THE_PROCESS_HAS_FORKED_AND_YOU_CANNOT_USE_THIS_COREFOUNDATION_FUNCTIONALITY___YOU_MUST_EXEC__()
to debug.

This is on a machine that has:

Python 2.6.6 (MacPorts installed)
OS X 10.5.8
PPC
Appscript 0.21.1 (easy_install-2.6)
Django 1.2.3 (using easy_install)

Other than pages using Appscript, everything works fine.

Am I using the right Appscript?

Mark J

From erik at letterror.com  Sat Nov 20 11:40:43 2010
From: erik at letterror.com (Erik van Blokland)
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 11:40:43 +0100
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] OS X compatibility of Appscript
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=up8Qr8+wVJ9Ku+viuSktmjA7nodj_iKbd5D7f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=up8Qr8+wVJ9Ku+viuSktmjA7nodj_iKbd5D7f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3B737FBA-69F6-4248-8827-531E4DBB9DCC@letterror.com>


On Nov 19, 2010, at 11:47 PM, Mark Johannessen wrote:

> I think I've tracked down this error to the use of a python Appscript call:
> 
> The process has forked and you cannot use this CoreFoundation
> functionality safely. You MUST exec().
> Break on __THE_PROCESS_HAS_FORKED_AND_YOU_CANNOT_USE_THIS_COREFOUNDATION_FUNCTIONALITY___YOU_MUST_EXEC__()
> to debug.


This sounds similar to
	http://mail.python.org/pipermail/pythonmac-sig/2010-October/022705.html
OSX 10.6 is  a lot stricter than earlier versions about loading OSX API modules before a process is forked. Postponing the imports until after forking is the solution. 

The 0.6 C11 version of setuptools triggers this exception by loading Carbon on its own. I believe this might have been fixed. 

A way to find who loads what is to look at sys.modules.keys() at various stages in the program. 

Erik

From Chris.Barker at noaa.gov  Mon Nov 29 17:50:39 2010
From: Chris.Barker at noaa.gov (Christopher Barker)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 08:50:39 -0800
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] 2.7.1 build?
Message-ID: <4CF3D9DF.9020107@noaa.gov>

Hey folks (or should I say Ronald?),

What's up with binary builds for 2.7.1?

Python.or has recently released 2.7.1, but there are no mac binaries yet.

This wouldn't be a big deal -- I'm patient, but unfortunately the way 
the python.org web site is set up, it's easy to find 2.7.1, but next to 
impossible to find 2.7.0 -- they appear to only put in links to the 
latest minor release. I say "next to impossible", because I haven't 
found it yet, and I've been poking around the web site for a few minutes.

so, we really need either a set of 2.7.1 builds, or at least a link on 
the python.org site somewhere obvious for the 2.7.0 builds!

-Chris






-- 
Christopher Barker, Ph.D.
Oceanographer

Emergency Response Division
NOAA/NOS/OR&R            (206) 526-6959   voice
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From richard.fuhr at gmail.com  Mon Nov 29 19:14:57 2010
From: richard.fuhr at gmail.com (Richard Fuhr)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 10:14:57 -0800
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] 2.7.1 build?
In-Reply-To: <4CF3D9DF.9020107@noaa.gov>
References: <4CF3D9DF.9020107@noaa.gov>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimRzUbbQsWkNW1Y3ik7KAf_hw+1atUv6yvcrhx=@mail.gmail.com>

Here is a link to 2.7 that includes a Mac installer disk image; am also
looking forward to the same sort of resource for 2.7.1

http://www.python.org/download/releases/2.7/

On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Christopher Barker
<Chris.Barker at noaa.gov>wrote:

> Hey folks (or should I say Ronald?),
>
> What's up with binary builds for 2.7.1?
>
> Python.or has recently released 2.7.1, but there are no mac binaries yet.
>
> This wouldn't be a big deal -- I'm patient, but unfortunately the way the
> python.org web site is set up, it's easy to find 2.7.1, but next to
> impossible to find 2.7.0 -- they appear to only put in links to the latest
> minor release. I say "next to impossible", because I haven't found it yet,
> and I've been poking around the web site for a few minutes.
>
> so, we really need either a set of 2.7.1 builds, or at least a link on the
> python.org site somewhere obvious for the 2.7.0 builds!
>
> -Chris
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Christopher Barker, Ph.D.
> Oceanographer
>
> Emergency Response Division
> NOAA/NOS/OR&R            (206) 526-6959   voice
> 7600 Sand Point Way NE   (206) 526-6329   fax
> Seattle, WA  98115       (206) 526-6317   main reception
>
> Chris.Barker at noaa.gov
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From skip at pobox.com  Mon Nov 29 19:15:59 2010
From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 12:15:59 -0600
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] 2.7.1 build?
In-Reply-To: <4CF3D9DF.9020107@noaa.gov>
References: <4CF3D9DF.9020107@noaa.gov>
Message-ID: <19699.60895.484517.71305@montanaro.dyndns.org>


    Chris> I say "next to impossible", because I haven't found it yet, and
    Chris> I've been poking around the web site for a few minutes.

Drop the ".0" and I think you've got it:

    http://www.python.org/download/releases/2.7/

A minor inconsistency in the naming, but traditionally the first micro
release of a series doesn't include the ".0".

-- 
Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.smontanaro.net/

From Chris.Barker at noaa.gov  Mon Nov 29 20:01:15 2010
From: Chris.Barker at noaa.gov (Christopher Barker)
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 11:01:15 -0800
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] 2.7.1 build?
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On 11/29/10 10:15 AM, skip at pobox.com wrote:
> Drop the ".0" and I think you've got it:
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>      http://www.python.org/download/releases/2.7/

yup -- thanks Richard and Skip -- thank god for restfull urls!

-Chris


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From ronaldoussoren at mac.com  Tue Nov 30 09:11:32 2010
From: ronaldoussoren at mac.com (Ronald Oussoren)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 09:11:32 +0100
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] 2.7.1 build?
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On 29 Nov, 2010, at 17:50, Christopher Barker wrote:

> Hey folks (or should I say Ronald?),
> 
> What's up with binary builds for 2.7.1?
> 
> Python.or has recently released 2.7.1, but there are no mac binaries yet.
> 
> This wouldn't be a big deal -- I'm patient, but unfortunately the way the python.org web site is set up, it's easy to find 2.7.1, but next to impossible to find 2.7.0 -- they appear to only put in links to the latest minor release. I say "next to impossible", because I haven't found it yet, and I've been poking around the web site for a few minutes.
> 
> so, we really need either a set of 2.7.1 builds, or at least a link on the python.org site somewhere obvious for the 2.7.0 builds!

I was away offline most of the weekend and will create the 2.7.1 builds later today.

Ronald
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> -Chris
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