From charles.hartman at conncoll.edu Sun Nov 1 01:17:20 2009 From: charles.hartman at conncoll.edu (Charles Hartman) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:17:20 -0400 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] matplotlib Message-ID: <1BB2002F-4A7D-480F-9B07-89775282376A@conncoll.edu> I'm using Python 26. I've never used numpy/matplotlib. I tried to install, for the sake of a program I wanted to try. Numpy worked; matplotlib didn't. Is Matplotlib still a problem on 2.6? If so, what should I do about it? I am a Python user who doesn't much know Terminal stuff, though I can do the commands I'm commanded to do ? Charles Hartman From charles.hartman at conncoll.edu Sun Nov 1 16:14:00 2009 From: charles.hartman at conncoll.edu (Charles Hartman) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 10:14:00 -0500 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] matplotlib In-Reply-To: <1BB2002F-4A7D-480F-9B07-89775282376A@conncoll.edu> References: <1BB2002F-4A7D-480F-9B07-89775282376A@conncoll.edu> Message-ID: <24921BE1-968D-49DE-BC49-FE75D22D2B2C@conncoll.edu> Let me rephrase that: I've found online notes about problems with matplotlib under Python 2.6 in Windows. But I'm running Mac OS 10.5.8. I'm using the 2.6 framework from python.org. Is there a good way for me to get the current matplotlib running in this context? Charles On Oct 31, 2009, at 8:17 PM, Charles Hartman wrote: > I'm using Python 26. I've never used numpy/matplotlib. I tried to > install, for the sake of a program I wanted to try. Numpy worked; > matplotlib didn't. > > Is Matplotlib still a problem on 2.6? If so, what should I do about > it? I am a Python user who doesn't much know Terminal stuff, though > I can do the commands I'm commanded to do ? > > Charles Hartman > > _______________________________________________ > Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig From robince at gmail.com Sun Nov 1 16:20:39 2009 From: robince at gmail.com (Robin) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 15:20:39 +0000 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] matplotlib In-Reply-To: <24921BE1-968D-49DE-BC49-FE75D22D2B2C@conncoll.edu> References: <1BB2002F-4A7D-480F-9B07-89775282376A@conncoll.edu> <24921BE1-968D-49DE-BC49-FE75D22D2B2C@conncoll.edu> Message-ID: <2d5132a50911010720o1e51fe54r67865792ac802649@mail.gmail.com> Did you try one of the 2.6 installers from the sourceforge download page: matplotlib-0.99.1.1-py2.6-macosx10.5.dmg matplotlib-0.99.1.1-py2.6-macosx-10.3-fat.egg I think they should work with a python.org install. What was the error message you were getting when matplotlib didn't work? Recent versions should run fine on 2.6 as far as I know. You might want to try the matplotlib mailing list if you have more trouble. Robin On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Charles Hartman wrote: > Let me rephrase that: ?I've found online notes about problems with > matplotlib under Python 2.6 in Windows. ?But I'm running Mac OS 10.5.8. ?I'm > using the 2.6 framework from python.org. ?Is there a good way for me to get > the current matplotlib running in this context? > > Charles > > > On Oct 31, 2009, at 8:17 PM, Charles Hartman wrote: > >> I'm using Python 26. ?I've never used numpy/matplotlib. ?I tried to >> install, for the sake of a program I wanted to try. ?Numpy worked; >> matplotlib didn't. >> >> Is Matplotlib still a problem on 2.6? ?If so, what should I do about it? >> ?I am a Python user who doesn't much know Terminal stuff, though I can do >> the commands I'm commanded to do ? >> >> Charles Hartman >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pythonmac-SIG maillist ?- ?Pythonmac-SIG at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig > > _______________________________________________ > Pythonmac-SIG maillist ?- ?Pythonmac-SIG at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig > From charles.hartman at conncoll.edu Sun Nov 1 16:50:27 2009 From: charles.hartman at conncoll.edu (Charles Hartman) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 10:50:27 -0500 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] matplotlib In-Reply-To: <2d5132a50911010720o1e51fe54r67865792ac802649@mail.gmail.com> References: <1BB2002F-4A7D-480F-9B07-89775282376A@conncoll.edu> <24921BE1-968D-49DE-BC49-FE75D22D2B2C@conncoll.edu> <2d5132a50911010720o1e51fe54r67865792ac802649@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > Did you try one of the 2.6 installers from the sourceforge download > page: > matplotlib-0.99.1.1-py2.6-macosx10.5.dmg > matplotlib-0.99.1.1-py2.6-macosx-10.3-fat.egg > Yes -- dumb! I just downloaded the wrong (2.5) installer; wherever I originally got it, the 2.6 wasn't present. So now I've installed it, and I can do 'import matplotlib' in Python. But when I try to use it (on an example from the new "Natural Language Processing with Python"), here's what I get: >>> import matplotlib >>> text4.dispersion_plot(["citizens", "democracy", "freedom", "duties", "America"]) Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/ python2.6/site-packages/nltk/text.py", line 452, in dispersion_plot dispersion_plot(self, words) File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/ python2.6/site-packages/nltk/draw/dispersion.py", line 25, in dispersion_plot raise ValueError('The plot function requires the matplotlib package.' ValueError: The plot function requires the matplotlib package.See http://matplotlib.sourceforge.net/ >>> Am I missing something just as obvious as before? From robince at gmail.com Sun Nov 1 17:04:37 2009 From: robince at gmail.com (Robin) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 16:04:37 +0000 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] matplotlib In-Reply-To: References: <1BB2002F-4A7D-480F-9B07-89775282376A@conncoll.edu> <24921BE1-968D-49DE-BC49-FE75D22D2B2C@conncoll.edu> <2d5132a50911010720o1e51fe54r67865792ac802649@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2d5132a50911010804v3a112b14v25a77323e2b50634@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Charles Hartman wrote: > > So now I've installed it, and I can do 'import matplotlib' in Python. ?But > when I try to use it (on an example from the new "Natural Language > Processing with Python"), here's what I get: > >>>> import matplotlib >>>> text4.dispersion_plot(["citizens", "democracy", "freedom", "duties", >>>> "America"]) > Traceback (most recent call last): > ?File "", line 1, in > ?File > "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/python2.6/site-packages/nltk/text.py", > line 452, in dispersion_plot > ? ?dispersion_plot(self, words) > ?File > "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/python2.6/site-packages/nltk/draw/dispersion.py", > line 25, in dispersion_plot > ? ?raise ValueError('The plot function requires the matplotlib package.' > ValueError: The plot function requires the matplotlib package.See > http://matplotlib.sourceforge.net/ >>>> dispersion.py is trying to import pylab. So you could try "import pylab" in Python and see what error you get. Also you could try and plot something: from pylab import plot x = range(1) plot(x,x) But I do think either the NLTK or matplotlib mailing lists would be more appropriate for you to get help with this. Also I'd recommend using ipython if you want to work with matplotlib plots interactively. It's an interpreter that has much nicer behaviour for interactive work. Cheers Robin From kantel at mpiwg-berlin.mpg.de Mon Nov 2 12:40:51 2009 From: kantel at mpiwg-berlin.mpg.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg_Kantel?=) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:40:51 +0100 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] matplotlib In-Reply-To: <2d5132a50911010804v3a112b14v25a77323e2b50634@mail.gmail.com> References: <1BB2002F-4A7D-480F-9B07-89775282376A@conncoll.edu> <24921BE1-968D-49DE-BC49-FE75D22D2B2C@conncoll.edu> <2d5132a50911010720o1e51fe54r67865792ac802649@mail.gmail.com> <2d5132a50911010804v3a112b14v25a77323e2b50634@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3B83E41A-BB76-45A0-812B-5065A98CBDF5@mpiwg-berlin.mpg.de> Matplotlib and some other scientific stuff didn't run with Python 2.6.x (you have to uese Python 2.5.x instaed). If yxou can read German you can read my rants about this stupid thing in my weblog: and . HTH J"org -- J?rg Kantel Mainzer Str. 19 -- 12053 Berlin-Neuk?lln Mail: joerg at kantel.de -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Charles >> Traceback (most recent call last): >> File "", line 1, in >> File >> "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/python2.6/ >> site-packages/nltk/text.py", >> line 452, in dispersion_plot >> dispersion_plot(self, words) >> File >> "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/python2.6/ >> site-packages/nltk/draw/dispersion.py", >> line 25, in dispersion_plot >> raise ValueError('The plot function requires the matplotlib >> package.' >> ValueError: The plot function requires the matplotlib package.See >> http://matplotlib.sourceforge.net/ >>>>> > > dispersion.py is trying to import pylab. So you could try "import > pylab" in Python and see what error you get. > Also you could try and plot something: > from pylab import plot > x = range(1) > plot(x,x) > > But I do think either the NLTK or matplotlib mailing lists would be > more appropriate for you to get help with this. > > Also I'd recommend using ipython if you want to work with matplotlib > plots interactively. It's an interpreter that has much nicer behaviour > for interactive work. > > Cheers > > Robin From Chris.Barker at noaa.gov Mon Nov 2 20:10:47 2009 From: Chris.Barker at noaa.gov (Christopher Barker) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 11:10:47 -0800 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Py2app PIL recipe Message-ID: <4AEF2EB7.7020101@noaa.gov> Hi folks, For a while now, PIL has provided a proper package, so that you can do: from PIL import Image rather than relying on a pth file and: import Image I'm such a fanatic about "proper" use of packages and namespaces that I removed the PIL.pth file from my system. Then I tried to use py2app on a program that uses PIL. It turns out that the PIL py2app recipe has a prescript.py file that gets put into the bundle, and it uses the old "import Image" form. I've hacked it to use: try: import Image except ImportError: from PIL import Image # note: the newer way to import PIL import sys instead, which works fine for me. I'd really rather simple use the package form: from PIL import Image # note: the newer way to import PIL all by itself, but there is some chance that that would break older PIL installations -- or is there? when was the PIL directory made a package? Anyway, could someone with SVN access to py2app please make this small patch. (I've enclosed the whole file, to make it easy). It belongs in: py2app/recipes/PIL/prescript.py Thanks, -Chris -- Christopher Barker, Ph.D. Oceanographer Emergency Response Division NOAA/NOS/OR&R (206) 526-6959 voice 7600 Sand Point Way NE (206) 526-6329 fax Seattle, WA 98115 (206) 526-6317 main reception Chris.Barker at noaa.gov -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: prescript.py Type: application/x-python Size: 615 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Chris.Barker at noaa.gov Mon Nov 2 20:17:09 2009 From: Chris.Barker at noaa.gov (Christopher Barker) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 11:17:09 -0800 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] : bad external relocation length Error Message-ID: <4AEF3035.8080804@noaa.gov> Hi folks, I'm trying to bundle up a app based on the GDAL library. It bundles OK, though I get this error: /usr/bin/strip: the __LINKEDIT segment does not cover the end of the file (can't be processed) in: /Users/cbarker/HAZMAT/MappingSVN/dist/Mapbox.app/Contents/Frameworks/GDAL.framework/Versions/1.6/Programs/gdalenhance (for architecture ppc) stripping saved 0 bytes (247912552 / 247912552) (I'm not sure why gdalenhance is getting processed at all, now that I think about it...) then I get this at run time: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/Users/cbarker/HAZMAT/MappingSVN/dist/Mapbox.app/Contents/Resources/__boot__.py", line 163, in _run('mapbox.py') File "/Users/cbarker/HAZMAT/MappingSVN/dist/Mapbox.app/Contents/Resources/__boot__.py", line 134, in _run execfile(path, globals(), globals()) File "/Users/cbarker/HAZMAT/MappingSVN/dist/Mapbox.app/Contents/Resources/mapbox.py", line 12, in import mapboxlib.plugin as plugin File "mapboxlib/plugin/__init__.pyo", line 39, in File "mapboxlib/plugin/Gdal_raster_layer.pyo", line 6, in File "osgeo/__init__.pyo", line 2, in File "osgeo/_gdal.pyo", line 18, in File "osgeo/_gdal.pyo", line 11, in __load ImportError: dlopen(/Users/cbarker/HAZMAT/MappingSVN/dist/Mapbox.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python2.5/lib-dynload/osgeo/_gdal.so, 2): bad external relocation length 2009-11-02 10:51:01.346 Mapbox[8039] Mapbox Error 2009-11-02 10:51:01.347 Mapbox[8039] Mapbox Error An unexpected error has occurred during execution of the main script ImportError: dlopen(/Users/cbarker/HAZMAT/MappingSVN/dist/Mapbox.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python2.5/lib-dynload/osgeo/_gdal.so, 2): bad external relocation length I'm using the GDAL Frameworks provided by: http://www.kyngchaos.com/macosx:build:index any debugging ideas appreciated. -Chris -- Christopher Barker, Ph.D. Oceanographer Emergency Response Division NOAA/NOS/OR&R (206) 526-6959 voice 7600 Sand Point Way NE (206) 526-6329 fax Seattle, WA 98115 (206) 526-6317 main reception Chris.Barker at noaa.gov From Chris.Barker at noaa.gov Mon Nov 2 20:50:39 2009 From: Chris.Barker at noaa.gov (Christopher Barker) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 11:50:39 -0800 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] : bad external relocation length Error In-Reply-To: <4AEF3035.8080804@noaa.gov> References: <4AEF3035.8080804@noaa.gov> Message-ID: <4AEF380F.7020903@noaa.gov> Christopher Barker wrote: > Hi folks, > > I'm trying to bundle up a app based on the GDAL library. It bundles OK, > though I get this error: an update: I updated to the latest macholib, and it seems to be working now -- duh! thanks, -Chris -- Christopher Barker, Ph.D. Oceanographer Emergency Response Division NOAA/NOS/OR&R (206) 526-6959 voice 7600 Sand Point Way NE (206) 526-6329 fax Seattle, WA 98115 (206) 526-6317 main reception Chris.Barker at noaa.gov From charles.hartman at conncoll.edu Fri Nov 6 01:05:13 2009 From: charles.hartman at conncoll.edu (Charles Hartman) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 19:05:13 -0500 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] iPhone Message-ID: <49673F72-26C4-4F7B-BA83-FDF41B761B66@conncoll.edu> I have an app that really wants to be on the iPhone (or iPod Touch). It's in Python. As I understand it, iPhone programming is all Objective-C. It's years since I did anything with C or C++. Has anyone had any experience with porting a Python app to that SDK? Charles Hartman From brianz at gmail.com Fri Nov 6 17:27:17 2009 From: brianz at gmail.com (Brian Zambrano) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 08:27:17 -0800 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Py2app error with libpng Message-ID: <5db256250911060827o2536f8bbif200628ae230ec26@mail.gmail.com> Hi there, I'm building an app with py2app and it runs successfully both on my computer and a friends. We both have the developer tools installed. On two other Macs, the application would die when loading one of the matplotlib .so files. The problem is that the .so, matplotlib/_png.so, is linking to: /usr/X11/lib/libpng12.0.dylib ...which doesn't exist on the two machines where the crash is occurring. My understanding is that py2app (or, macholib?) tries to resolve these dependencies and copy over the necessary dylibs. I've tried adding /usr/X11/lib/libpng12.0.dylib to the build with the 'frameworks' argument, but that doesn't seem to do anything. Now, I'm thinking of doing a manual copy of that file into the Framework directory, along with using install_name_tool. What's the best way to handle this? BZ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kw at codebykevin.com Fri Nov 6 23:55:04 2009 From: kw at codebykevin.com (Kevin Walzer) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:55:04 -0500 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Py2app error with libpng In-Reply-To: <5db256250911060827o2536f8bbif200628ae230ec26@mail.gmail.com> References: <5db256250911060827o2536f8bbif200628ae230ec26@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4AF4A948.6020209@codebykevin.com> On 11/6/09 11:27 AM, Brian Zambrano wrote: > Hi there, > > I'm building an app with py2app and it runs successfully both on my > computer and a friends. We both have the developer tools installed. On > two other Macs, the application would die when loading one of the > matplotlib .so files. The problem is that the .so, matplotlib/_png.so, > is linking to: > > /usr/X11/lib/libpng12.0.dylib > > ...which doesn't exist on the two machines where the crash is occurring. > > My understanding is that py2app (or, macholib?) tries to resolve these > dependencies and copy over the necessary dylibs. > > I've tried adding /usr/X11/lib/libpng12.0.dylib to the build with the > 'frameworks' argument, but that doesn't seem to do anything. Now, I'm > thinking of doing a manual copy of that file into the Framework > directory, along with using install_name_tool. > > What's the best way to handle this? > py2app typically doesn't include system files. I think /usr/lib is considered a system directory, which may explain why it's not bundling the files. --Kevin -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin http://www.codebykevin.com From ken.manheimer at gmail.com Sat Nov 7 00:58:16 2009 From: ken.manheimer at gmail.com (ken manheimer) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 15:58:16 -0800 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] appscript CommandError timeout - always before 2**16 transactions, sometimes well before Message-ID: <2cd46e7f0911061558r330573d0mc5ace6fa1d7b0b77@mail.gmail.com> hi, all! i'm very happy to be using appscript for a general iTunes playlist synchronizer , for copying iTunes playlists and tracks to filesystem directories. i've hit upon what seems to be a hard and unexpected transaction limit, and worse, one which occasionally is aggravated and becomes a problematically low limit. i'm hoping that this is an appropriate forum for appscript issues - please let me know if there's a better place to post this. the behavior is an appscript.reference.CommandError timeout after some number of appscript transactions. there seems to be a hard limit just before 2**16 (65536) commands (actually, at 65529 commands, but i presume the difference is accounted for by preliminary setup). the limit is sometimes lower, even across separate python sessions, to somewhere a bit above 55,000, and in fact tends to be lower once the high limit has been hit. occasionally the limit is as low as tens or hundreds of transactions, at which point working with appscript is untenable and i need to reboot my machine to clear it. i only have one mac to test it on, so i haven't even confirmed it occurs for anyone else. the machine is only a few months old, so doesn't have too much cruft, and it happens in every python i've tried on the machine. (i've reproduced the problem with the appscript 0.20.0 installed via easy_install on the leopard system python 2.5.4, snow leopard system python 2.6.1, a 2.6 python built from scratch, etc; the machine is a 2.66 GHz macbook pro.) i'd be very interested to hear whether it occurs for others, and to make it easy for you to try: def first_timeout(): """Gratuitous itunes appscript reference cycle to elicit a timeout. It usually happens on some systems after just about 2**16 (= 2**2**2**2) interactions, and sometimes substantially before that.""" import appscript import sys itunes = appscript.app('itunes') t = itunes.tracks[1] count = 0 class PassedLimit(Exception): pass try: while True: count += 1 if count % 1000 == 0: sys.stderr.write("%i\n" % count) if count > 65530: sys.stderr.write("%i\n" % count) elif count > 66000: raise PassedLimit x = t.name.get() except appscript.reference.CommandError: sys.stderr.write("got a CommandError at count %i\n" % count) raise except PassedLimit: sys.stderr.write("exceeded threshold without triggering the timeout\n") to try it, paste the function into a mac python session (with appscript installed) and invoked 'first_timeout()'. if you have iTunes populated with at least one track, you'll see a count emitted at every 1000 transactions, and either a hang and then "got a CommandError ..." message followed by a traceback, if the error is encountered, or else an "exceeded threshold ..." message if the limit was passed without triggering the timeout. while i'm curious about the reason for the high hard limit, the reduced limits are actually a problem - even the 57000/58000 ceiling interferes with my script operation when running against a lot of playlists and tracks (88/9300), to the point that i've had to include kludgy measures to work around the problem. i'd love it if the problem could be confirmed by others, and if it's widespread, whether someone familiar with appscript internals could look into repairing it. (i'm also interested in having others try out the playlistsync script. this is my first public release of it, and i'd be happy to have people comfortable with python and appscript use it, so if you use iTunes and have a non-apple music player you'd like to sync, please consider trying it out!) -- ken manheimer http://myriadicity.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nad at acm.org Sat Nov 7 01:18:14 2009 From: nad at acm.org (Ned Deily) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:18:14 -0800 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] appscript CommandError timeout - always before 2**16 transactions, sometimes well before References: <2cd46e7f0911061558r330573d0mc5ace6fa1d7b0b77@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: In article <2cd46e7f0911061558r330573d0mc5ace6fa1d7b0b77 at mail.gmail.com>, ken manheimer wrote: > the behavior is an appscript.reference.CommandError timeout after some > number of appscript transactions. there seems to be a hard limit just > before 2**16 (65536) commands (actually, at 65529 commands, but i presume > the difference is accounted for by preliminary setup). the limit is > sometimes lower, even across separate python sessions, to somewhere a bit > above 55,000, and in fact tends to be lower once the high limit has been > hit. occasionally the limit is as low as tens or hundreds of transactions, > at which point working with appscript is untenable and i need to reboot my > machine to clear it. [...] > while i'm curious about the reason for the high hard limit, the reduced > limits are actually a problem - even the 57000/58000 ceiling interferes with > my script operation when running against a lot of playlists and tracks > (88/9300), to the point that i've had to include kludgy measures to work > around the problem. i'd love it if the problem could be confirmed by > others, and if it's widespread, whether someone familiar with appscript > internals could look into repairing it. A sync script sounds interesting and I plan to take a look at later. But a couple of quick thoughts: Are you running on 10.6 (Snow Leopard)? If so, perhaps you are running into this bug: http://db.tidbits.com/article/10643 Also, have you tried increasing the default timeout on the problematic commands, i.e. x = t.name.get(timeout=120)? -- Ned Deily, nad at acm.org From the_shelter at yahoo.com Sun Nov 8 01:39:43 2009 From: the_shelter at yahoo.com (the Shelter) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 16:39:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Automize a droplet Message-ID: <910285.10840.qm@web56307.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Hi all, I wanna control/ trigger the process of a file being handed over to a droplet- is this doable? I haven't even found a way to do this in AppleTalk or on the command line yet ... Any suggestion is highly appreciated. Cheers, S From kw at codebykevin.com Sun Nov 8 13:48:32 2009 From: kw at codebykevin.com (Kevin Walzer) Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:48:32 -0500 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Automize a droplet In-Reply-To: <910285.10840.qm@web56307.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <910285.10840.qm@web56307.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4AF6BE20.4010005@codebykevin.com> On 11/7/09 7:39 PM, the Shelter wrote: > Hi all, > > I wanna control/ trigger the process of a file being handed over to a droplet- is this doable? I haven't even found a way to do this in AppleTalk or on the command line yet ... > > Any suggestion is highly appreciated. > > Cheers, > > > S Can you be more specific about what you want to do? What's a "droplet"? And since you reference AppleTalk (do you mean AppleScript), is this about Python? -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin http://www.codebykevin.com From the_shelter at yahoo.com Sun Nov 8 17:45:40 2009 From: the_shelter at yahoo.com (the Shelter) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 08:45:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Automize a droplet In-Reply-To: <4AF6BE20.4010005@codebykevin.com> Message-ID: <111363.73671.qm@web56308.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Hi, droplets are little mac apps that get triggered by dragging and dropping a file on them. In my case there exists such a droplet app that creates txt output I need to infterface w/. So I wanna trigger the process of a file being dropped on the app so I get the txt output that is written to a folder, i.e. take the file and fire it off to the app ... And yes: I meant ApleScript, not Appletalk :-) Since my main application that wants to get the txt file: yes, I'd prefer a python approach to this. Cheers, S --- On Sun, 11/8/09, Kevin Walzer wrote: > From: Kevin Walzer > Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Automize a droplet > To: pythonmac-sig at python.org > Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 1:48 PM > On 11/7/09 7:39 PM, the Shelter > wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I wanna control/ trigger the process of a file being > handed over to a droplet- is this doable? I haven't even > found a way to do this in AppleTalk or on the command line > yet ... > > > > Any suggestion is highly appreciated. > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > S > > Can you be more specific about what you want to do? What's > a "droplet"? > And since you reference AppleTalk (do you mean > AppleScript), is this > about Python? > > -- > Kevin Walzer > Code by Kevin > http://www.codebykevin.com > _______________________________________________ > Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig > --- On Sun, 11/8/09, Kevin Walzer wrote: > From: Kevin Walzer > Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Automize a droplet > To: pythonmac-sig at python.org > Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 1:48 PM > On 11/7/09 7:39 PM, the Shelter > wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I wanna control/ trigger the process of a file being > handed over to a droplet- is this doable? I haven't even > found a way to do this in AppleTalk or on the command line > yet ... > > > > Any suggestion is highly appreciated. > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > S > > Can you be more specific about what you want to do? What's > a "droplet"? > And since you reference AppleTalk (do you mean > AppleScript), is this > about Python? > > -- > Kevin Walzer > Code by Kevin > http://www.codebykevin.com > _______________________________________________ > Pythonmac-SIG maillist? -? Pythonmac-SIG at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig > From nad at acm.org Sun Nov 8 18:29:23 2009 From: nad at acm.org (Ned Deily) Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:29:23 -0800 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Automize a droplet References: <4AF6BE20.4010005@codebykevin.com> <111363.73671.qm@web56308.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: In article <111363.73671.qm at web56308.mail.re3.yahoo.com>, the Shelter wrote: > droplets are little mac apps that get triggered by dragging and dropping a > file on them. > In my case there exists such a droplet app that creates txt output I need to > infterface w/. > So I wanna trigger the process of a file being dropped on the app so I get > the txt output that is written to a folder, i.e. take the file and fire it > off to the app ... > > > And yes: I meant ApleScript, not Appletalk :-) > > Since my main application that wants to get the txt file: yes, I'd prefer a > python approach to this. If I understand correctly, you want to programatically emulate the action of dropping a file onto a droplet app. If so, probably the easiest way to do it is to use the OS X open command from the command line, so somthing like: $ open -a "/path/to/applet.app" "file-to-drop" If that works, you can easily call that from within a python program by using the old standby: os.system('open -a ...') or, if you need more control, subprocess.Popen(...). -- Ned Deily, nad at acm.org From jerry.levan at eku.edu Mon Nov 9 15:27:22 2009 From: jerry.levan at eku.edu (Jerry LeVan) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:27:22 -0500 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Automize a droplet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Nov 9, 2009, at 6:00 AM, pythonmac-sig-request at python.org wrote: > > On 11/7/09 7:39 PM, the Shelter wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I wanna control/ trigger the process of a file being handed over to >> a droplet- is this doable? I haven't even found a way to do this in >> AppleTalk or on the command line yet ... >> >> Any suggestion is highly appreciated. >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> S > I seem to recall that "Drop Stuff" and "Playtpus" can create droplets for scripting languages. Jerry From brianz at gmail.com Thu Nov 12 01:28:50 2009 From: brianz at gmail.com (Brian Zambrano) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:28:50 -0800 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] MySQLdb on OS X 10.6 In-Reply-To: <5db256250911111550u8ec0a1dh4620711bec7187a9@mail.gmail.com> References: <5db256250911111550u8ec0a1dh4620711bec7187a9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5db256250911111628y3f13a30cp4b3f0b5d37161620@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, Like many others before me, I'm banging my head against the wall trying to get MySQLdb working on my new MacBook Pro with Snow Leopard. I have MySql 5.1 x86_64 installed, configured and running. I'm building MySQLdb 1.2.3c1 like this: export ARCHFLAGS='-arch x86_64' python setup.py build python setup.py install But it simply doesn't work....and apparently I'm not the only one : (eb)brianz at eb-brianz$ python -c "import MySQLdb" Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in File "MySQLdb/__init__.py", line 19, in import _mysql ImportError: dlopen(./_mysql.so, 2): no suitable image found. Did find: ./_mysql.so: mach-o, but wrong architecture Everything *looks* ok: (eb)brianz at eb-brianz$ file _mysql.so _mysql.so: Mach-O 64-bit bundle x86_64 (eb)brianz at eb-brianz$ otool -L _mysql.so _mysql.so: /usr/local/mysql/lib/libmysqlclient_r.16.dylib (compatibility version 17.0.0, current version 17.0.0) /usr/lib/libz.1.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 1.2.3) /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 124.1.1) (eb)brianz at eb-brianz$ (eb)brianz at eb-brianz$ file /usr/local/mysql/lib/libmysqlclient_r.16.dylib /usr/local/mysql/lib/libmysqlclient_r.16.dylib: Mach-O 64-bit dynamically linked shared library x86_64 Huh? Something is not right here. It sucks that the OS X builds are so painful. I'm sort of at a loss at where to go next. Suggestions? Any help greatly appreciated! BZ BTW...here are the relevant lines from the build: creating build/temp.macosx-10.6-i386-2.5 gcc-4.2 -fno-strict-aliasing -mno-fused-madd -fno-common -dynamic -DNDEBUG -g -fwrapv -Os -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -DMACOSX -I/usr/include/ffi -DENABLE_DTRACE -pipe -Dversion_info=(1,2,3,'gamma',1) -D__version__=1.2.3c1 -I/usr/local/mysql/include -I/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/include/python2.5 -c _mysql.c -o build/temp.macosx-10.6-i386-2.5/_mysql.o -g -Os -arch x86_64 -fno-common -D_P1003_1B_VISIBLE -DSIGNAL_WITH_VIO_CLOSE -DSIGNALS_DONT_BREAK_READ -DIGNORE_SIGHUP_SIGQUIT -DDONT_DECLARE_CXA_PURE_VIRTUAL In file included from _mysql.c:36: /usr/local/mysql/include/my_config.h:1049:1: warning: "HAVE_WCSCOLL" redefined In file included from /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/include/python2.5/Python.h:8, from pymemcompat.h:10, from _mysql.c:29: /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/include/python2.5/pyconfig.h:725:1: warning: this is the location of the previous definition gcc-4.2 -Wl,-F. -bundle -undefined dynamic_lookup -arch x86_64 build/temp.macosx-10.6-i386-2.5/_mysql.o -L/usr/local/mysql/lib -lmysqlclient_r -lz -lm -lmygcc -o build/lib.macosx-10.6-i386-2.5/_mysql.so -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From emanuelesantos at gmail.com Thu Nov 12 01:38:33 2009 From: emanuelesantos at gmail.com (Emanuele Santos) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:38:33 -0700 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] MySQLdb on OS X 10.6 In-Reply-To: <5db256250911111628y3f13a30cp4b3f0b5d37161620@mail.gmail.com> References: <5db256250911111550u8ec0a1dh4620711bec7187a9@mail.gmail.com> <5db256250911111628y3f13a30cp4b3f0b5d37161620@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3E925202-51F1-4229-81C2-5452B5EBE479@gmail.com> Hi, Brian I don't think python2.5 shipped with Snow Leopard is 64 bit. If you want to build using pyhton 2.5 it will have to be 32bit. -- Emanuele. On Nov 11, 2009, at 5:28 PM, Brian Zambrano wrote: > Hi all, > > Like many others before me, I'm banging my head against the wall > trying to get MySQLdb working on my new MacBook Pro with Snow Leopard. > > I have MySql 5.1 x86_64 installed, configured and running. I'm > building MySQLdb 1.2.3c1 like this: > > export ARCHFLAGS='-arch x86_64' > python setup.py build > python setup.py install > > But it simply doesn't work....and apparently I'm not the only one: > > (eb)brianz at eb-brianz$ python -c "import MySQLdb" > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "", line 1, in > File "MySQLdb/__init__.py", line 19, in > import _mysql > ImportError: dlopen(./_mysql.so, 2): no suitable image found. Did > find: > ./_mysql.so: mach-o, but wrong architecture > > Everything *looks* ok: > > (eb)brianz at eb-brianz$ file _mysql.so > _mysql.so: Mach-O 64-bit bundle x86_64 > > (eb)brianz at eb-brianz$ otool -L _mysql.so > _mysql.so: > /usr/local/mysql/lib/libmysqlclient_r.16.dylib > (compatibility version 17.0.0, current version 17.0.0) > /usr/lib/libz.1.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current > version 1.2.3) > /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, > current version 124.1.1) > (eb)brianz at eb-brianz$ > (eb)brianz at eb-brianz$ file /usr/local/mysql/lib/libmysqlclient_r. > 16.dylib > /usr/local/mysql/lib/libmysqlclient_r.16.dylib: Mach-O 64-bit > dynamically linked shared library x86_64 > > Huh? Something is not right here. It sucks that the OS X builds > are so painful. I'm sort of at a loss at where to go next. > Suggestions? > > Any help greatly appreciated! > BZ > > > BTW...here are the relevant lines from the build: > > creating build/temp.macosx-10.6-i386-2.5 > gcc-4.2 -fno-strict-aliasing -mno-fused-madd -fno-common -dynamic - > DNDEBUG -g -fwrapv -Os -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -DMACOSX -I/usr/ > include/ffi -DENABLE_DTRACE -pipe -Dversion_info=(1,2,3,'gamma',1) - > D__version__=1.2.3c1 -I/usr/local/mysql/include -I/System/Library/ > Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/include/python2.5 -c > _mysql.c -o build/temp.macosx-10.6-i386-2.5/_mysql.o -g -Os -arch > x86_64 -fno-common -D_P1003_1B_VISIBLE -DSIGNAL_WITH_VIO_CLOSE - > DSIGNALS_DONT_BREAK_READ -DIGNORE_SIGHUP_SIGQUIT - > DDONT_DECLARE_CXA_PURE_VIRTUAL > In file included from _mysql.c:36: > /usr/local/mysql/include/my_config.h:1049:1: warning: "HAVE_WCSCOLL" > redefined > In file included from /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/ > Versions/2.5/include/python2.5/Python.h:8, > from pymemcompat.h:10, > from _mysql.c:29: > /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/include/ > python2.5/pyconfig.h:725:1: warning: this is the location of the > previous definition > gcc-4.2 -Wl,-F. -bundle -undefined dynamic_lookup -arch x86_64 build/ > temp.macosx-10.6-i386-2.5/_mysql.o -L/usr/local/mysql/lib - > lmysqlclient_r -lz -lm -lmygcc -o build/lib.macosx-10.6-i386-2.5/ > _mysql.so > > _______________________________________________ > Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig -- Emanuele. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ivan at llaisdy.com Mon Nov 16 11:53:18 2009 From: ivan at llaisdy.com (Ivan Uemlianin) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:53:18 +0000 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Installing py-appscript on Snow Leopard Message-ID: <4B012F1E.30609@llaisdy.com> Dear All I should like to install appscript onto my MacBook Pro. It is running MacOSX Snow Leopard and python 2.6, and the version of py-appscript I am working with is 0.20.0. I have tried the easy_install way (with & without -U and -Z) and the source/setup.py way. Both return the same error. I have read through the recent thread on appscript and snow leopard and I don't think this error was covered. "sudo easy_install appscript" returns about 2300 lines of errors starting with: Searching for appscript Reading http://pypi.python.org/simple/appscript/ Reading http://appscript.sourceforge.net Best match: appscript 0.20.0 Downloading http://pypi.python.org/packages/source/a/appscript/appscript-0.20.0.tar.gz#md5=c803c36665bfe8c8ae55f0ebaf7de684 Processing appscript-0.20.0.tar.gz Running appscript-0.20.0/setup.py -q bdist_egg --dist-dir /tmp/easy_install-ORIxcg/appscript-0.20.0/egg-dist-tmp-15JznI Compiling with an SDK that doesn't seem to exist: /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk Please check your Xcode installation In file included from appscript_2x/ext/ae.c:14: /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/include/python2.6/Python.h:19:20: error: limits.h: No such file or directory and ending with: appscript_2x/ext/ae.c:1527: error: ?PyObject? has no member named ?ob_refcnt? appscript_2x/ext/ae.c:1527: error: lvalue required as increment operand appscript_2x/ext/ae.c:1527: error: lvalue required as increment operand appscript_2x/ext/ae.c:1530: warning: passing argument 2 of ?PyCObject_FromVoidPtr? from incompatible pointer type lipo: can't figure out the architecture type of: /var/tmp//ccZXAtgZ.out error: Setup script exited with error: command 'gcc' failed with exit status 1 My hunch is that the line Compiling with an SDK that doesn't seem to exist: /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk is the clue. I have SDKs for 10.5 and 10.6 but not 10.4u. I grepped through the source for appscript-0.20.0 but couldn't find anything to edit. Can I compile appscript with a different sdk? Is something else the problem? Has anyone else solved this? Any help appreciated. Best wishes Ivan -- ============================================================ Ivan A. Uemlianin Speech Technology Research and Development ivan at llaisdy.com www.llaisdy.com llaisdy.wordpress.com www.linkedin.com/in/ivanuemlianin "Froh, froh! Wie seine Sonnen, seine Sonnen fliegen" (Schiller, Beethoven) ============================================================ From nad at acm.org Mon Nov 16 21:48:28 2009 From: nad at acm.org (Ned Deily) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:48:28 -0800 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Installing py-appscript on Snow Leopard References: <4B012F1E.30609@llaisdy.com> Message-ID: In article <4B012F1E.30609 at llaisdy.com>, Ivan Uemlianin wrote: [...] > My hunch is that the line > > Compiling with an SDK that doesn't seem to exist: > /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk > > > is the clue. I have SDKs for 10.5 and 10.6 but not 10.4u. I grepped > through the source for appscript-0.20.0 but couldn't find anything to edit. > > Can I compile appscript with a different sdk? Is something else the > problem? Has anyone else solved this? You need the 10.4u SDK to build extensions for python.org pythons. The 10.4u SDK is available as part of the Xcode installer package on the Snow Leopard installation DVD but it is not installed by default. Just go back and do a custom install of Xcode. -- Ned Deily, nad at acm.org From ivan at llaisdy.com Tue Nov 17 17:24:42 2009 From: ivan at llaisdy.com (Ivan Uemlianin) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:24:42 +0000 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Pythonmac-SIG Digest, Vol 79, Issue 10 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B02CE4A.1050301@llaisdy.com> Ned > You need the 10.4u SDK to build extensions for python.org pythons. The > 10.4u SDK is available as part of the Xcode installer package on the > Snow Leopard installation DVD but it is not installed by default. Just > go back and do a custom install of Xcode. > Thanks for your help. I installed the 10.4u sdk and the error messages have changed. I attach the stderr output below. Am I still missing something? Best wishes Ivan -- ============================================================ Ivan A. Uemlianin Speech Technology Research and Development ivan at llaisdy.com www.llaisdy.com llaisdy.wordpress.com www.linkedin.com/in/ivanuemlianin "Froh, froh! Wie seine Sonnen, seine Sonnen fliegen" (Schiller, Beethoven) ============================================================ -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: err.txt URL: From nad at acm.org Tue Nov 17 19:08:04 2009 From: nad at acm.org (Ned Deily) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:08:04 -0800 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Installing py-appscript on Snow Leopard References: <4B02CE4A.1050301@llaisdy.com> Message-ID: In article <4B02CE4A.1050301 at llaisdy.com>, Ivan Uemlianin wrote: > Ned > > You need the 10.4u SDK to build extensions for python.org pythons. The > > 10.4u SDK is available as part of the Xcode installer package on the > > Snow Leopard installation DVD but it is not installed by default. Just > > go back and do a custom install of Xcode. > > > Thanks for your help. I installed the 10.4u sdk and the error messages > have changed. I attach the stderr output below. Am I still missing > something? Those errors are a result of using the 10.6 default gcc-4.2 rather than gcc-4.0. Because of this problem, a fix was added to Python 2.6.3 to automatically force use of gcc-4.0 and there were other important fixes in 2.6.3 and 2.6.4 for OS X environments. Upgrade to Python 2.6.4 and that problem should go away. With 2.6.4 (and possibly updating either setuptools or distribute), easy_install appscript should work just fine. -- Ned Deily, nad at acm.org From hengist.podd at virgin.net Wed Nov 18 19:54:25 2009 From: hengist.podd at virgin.net (has) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:54:25 +0000 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] [ann] appscript 0.20.2 Message-ID: Hi all, Just posted a minor appscript update on PyPI that addresses some of the shortcomings of the osax module when used in 64-bit mode. http://www.python.org/pypi/appscript In addition to fixing a bug that prevented it targeting the current process, I've also added a static glue for OS X's Standard Additions (as that's all most folk use it for anyway) so you no longer need to generate a static glue yourself before using that particular osax. I've also added some notes to the README and to the py-appscript/install.html page on the website about building appscript for python.org distributions on 10.6. (Basically cribbed from Ned's last couple posts, cheers.) It's not an appscript-specific issue (it applies to all source distributions that include C extensions), but I know it's been giving some appscript users problems, so hopefully this will help. If anything's unclear or incorrect, just let me know and I'll improve it. Enjoy, has -- Control AppleScriptable applications from Python, Ruby and ObjC: http://appscript.sourceforge.net From ken.manheimer at gmail.com Wed Nov 18 20:45:19 2009 From: ken.manheimer at gmail.com (ken manheimer) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:45:19 -0500 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] [ann] appscript 0.20.2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2cd46e7f0911181145v1758fa69g892ad9f6af5c85b7@mail.gmail.com> hi. a while back i posted about an appscript CommandError timeout i encounter at high command interaction counts. not surprisingly, the problem (i'll reiterate the details below) still happens in 0.20.2. i'm wondering if you (or any of the other appscript developers) have any thoughts about this? it might be an apple events problem (eg, http://db.tidbits.com/article/10643, except i was seeing the problem in 10.5 leopard and not just snow leopard), or a problem with my machine, but the 2^16 limit happens always, and sometimes the machine gets in a state where it happens much sooner. here are the details: the behavior is an appscript.reference.CommandError timeout after some number of appscript transactions. there seems to be a hard limit just before 2**16 (65536) commands (actually, at 65529 commands, but i presume the difference is accounted for by preliminary setup). the limit is sometimes a little to a lot lower, even across separate python sessions. occasionally the limit is as low as tens or hundreds of transactions, at which point working with appscript is untenable and i need to reboot my machine to clear it. i only have one mac to test it on, so i haven't even confirmed it occurs for anyone else. the machine is only a few months old, so doesn't have too much cruft, and it happens in every python i've tried on the machine. (i've reproduced the problem with the appscript 0.20.0 installed via easy_install on the leopard system python 2.5.4, snow leopard system python 2.6.1, a 2.6 python built from scratch, etc; the machine is a 2.66 GHz macbook pro.) i'd be very interested to hear whether it occurs for others, and to make it easy for you to try: def first_timeout(): """Gratuitous itunes appscript reference cycle to elicit a timeout. It usually happens on some systems after just about 2**16 (= 2**2**2**2) interactions, and sometimes substantially before that.""" import appscript import sys itunes = appscript.app('itunes') t = itunes.tracks[1] count = 0 class PassedLimit(Exception): pass try: while True: count += 1 if count % 1000 == 0: sys.stderr.write("%i\n" % count) if count > 65530: sys.stderr.write("%i\n" % count) elif count > 66000: raise PassedLimit x = t.name.get() except appscript.reference.CommandError: sys.stderr.write("got a CommandError at count %i\n" % count) raise except PassedLimit: sys.stderr.write("exceeded threshold without triggering the timeout\n") to try it, paste the function into a mac python session (with appscriptinstalled) and invoked 'first_timeout()'. if you have iTunes populated with at least one track, you'll see a count emitted at every 1000 transactions, and either a hang and then "got a CommandError ..." message followed by a traceback, if the error is encountered, or else an "exceeded threshold ..." message if the limit was passed without triggering the timeout. while i'm curious about the reason for the high hard limit, the reduced limits are actually a problem - even the 57000/58000 ceiling interferes with my script operation when running against a lot of playlists and tracks (88/9300), to the point that i've had to include kludgy measures to work around the problem. i'd love it if the problem could be confirmed by others, and if it's widespread, whether someone familiar with appscriptinternals could look into repairing it. thanks for any light you can shed on this! -- ken http://myriadicity.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ken.manheimer at gmail.com Wed Nov 18 20:54:44 2009 From: ken.manheimer at gmail.com (ken manheimer) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:54:44 -0500 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] appscript CommandError timeout - always before 2**16 transactions, sometimes well before In-Reply-To: References: <2cd46e7f0911061558r330573d0mc5ace6fa1d7b0b77@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2cd46e7f0911181154p3308c19dy563e3c0e772af7f2@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Ned Deily wrote: > In article > <2cd46e7f0911061558r330573d0mc5ace6fa1d7b0b77 at mail.gmail.com>, > ken manheimer wrote: > > the behavior is an appscript.reference.CommandError timeout after some > > number of appscript transactions. there seems to be a hard limit just > > before 2**16 (65536) commands (actually, at 65529 commands, but i presume > > the difference is accounted for by preliminary setup). the limit is > > sometimes lower, even across separate python sessions, to somewhere a bit > > above 55,000, and in fact tends to be lower once the high limit has been > > hit. occasionally the limit is as low as tens or hundreds of > transactions, > > at which point working with appscript is untenable and i need to reboot > my > > machine to clear it. > [...] > > while i'm curious about the reason for the high hard limit, the reduced > > limits are actually a problem - even the 57000/58000 ceiling interferes > with > > my script operation when running against a lot of playlists and tracks > > (88/9300), to the point that i've had to include kludgy measures to work > > around the problem. i'd love it if the problem could be confirmed by > > others, and if it's widespread, whether someone familiar with appscript > > internals could look into repairing it. > > A sync script sounds interesting and I plan to take a look at later. > But a couple of quick thoughts: > > Are you running on 10.6 (Snow Leopard)? If so, perhaps you are running > into this bug: > > http://db.tidbits.com/article/10643 > i am running 10.6, and the problem accounted for there sounds suspiciously similar to what i'm experiencing, *but* i also experienced the apparently identical problem on 10.5 leopard, which the article says wasn't afflicted by that apple events bug. also, while the consistent, hard limit occurring at very close to 2**16 seems likely to be explained by the return ID being limited to a short signed value, it's still odd that, once provoked, the limit varies to lower ranges - typically somewhere in the 55k range, but sometimes much lower. Also, have you tried increasing the default timeout on the problematic > commands, i.e. x = t.name.get(timeout=120)? > i did try changing it from 120 to 240, to no avail. that's not surprising, since there are no noticeable delays in the tens of thousands of successful transactions, until the one that gets stuck. out of curiousity, did you try the function i included on your system? i suspect that it's not specific to my system, but i haven't yet been able to get anyone else to test it. (i'm including a copy of it again, below my signature.) thanks much for your attention and suggestions. and, i hope you'll give the sync script a try...-) > -- > Ned Deily, > nad at acm.org > -- ken http://myriadicity.net def first_timeout(): """Gratuitous itunes appscript reference cycle to elicit a timeout. It usually happens on some systems after just about 2**16 (= 2**2**2**2) interactions, and sometimes substantially before that.""" import appscript import sys itunes = appscript.app('itunes') t = itunes.tracks[1] count = 0 class PassedLimit(Exception): pass try: while True: count += 1 if count % 1000 == 0: sys.stderr.write("%i\n" % count) if count > 65530: sys.stderr.write("%i\n" % count) elif count > 66000: raise PassedLimit x = t.name.get() except appscript.reference.CommandError: sys.stderr.write("got a CommandError at count %i\n" % count) raise except PassedLimit: sys.stderr.write("exceeded threshold without triggering the timeout\n") to try it, paste the function into a mac python session (with appscriptinstalled) and invoke 'first_timeout()'. if you have iTunes populated with at least one track, you'll see a count emitted at every 1000 transactions, and either a hang and then "got a CommandError ..." message followed by a traceback, if the error is encountered, or else an "exceeded threshold ..." message if the limit was passed without triggering the timeout. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gary.poster at gmail.com Wed Nov 18 21:08:39 2009 From: gary.poster at gmail.com (Gary Poster) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:08:39 -0500 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] appscript CommandError timeout - always before 2**16 transactions, sometimes well before In-Reply-To: <2cd46e7f0911181154p3308c19dy563e3c0e772af7f2@mail.gmail.com> References: <2cd46e7f0911061558r330573d0mc5ace6fa1d7b0b77@mail.gmail.com> <2cd46e7f0911181154p3308c19dy563e3c0e772af7f2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7AD53280-B821-42E5-95C2-8856DE0C15FB@gmail.com> Hey Ken. :-) It hung for me. Gary got a CommandError at count 57474 Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in File "", line 21, in first_timeout File "build/bdist.macosx-10.6-universal/egg/appscript/reference.py", line 504, in __call__ appscript.reference.CommandError: Command failed: OSERROR: -1712 MESSAGE: Apple event timed out. COMMAND: app(u'/Applications/iTunes.app').tracks[1].name.get() On Nov 18, 2009, at 2:54 PM, ken manheimer wrote: > def first_timeout(): > """Gratuitous itunes appscript reference cycle to elicit a timeout. > > It usually happens on some systems after just about 2**16 (= 2**2**2**2) > interactions, and sometimes substantially before that.""" > import appscript > import sys > itunes = appscript.app('itunes') > t = itunes.tracks[1] > count = 0 > class PassedLimit(Exception): pass > try: > while True: > count += 1 > if count % 1000 == 0: > sys.stderr.write("%i\n" % count) > if count > 65530: > sys.stderr.write("%i\n" % count) > elif count > 66000: > raise PassedLimit > x = t.name.get() > except appscript.reference.CommandError: > sys.stderr.write("got a CommandError at count %i\n" % count) > raise > except PassedLimit: > sys.stderr.write("exceeded threshold without triggering the timeout\n") From ken.manheimer at gmail.com Wed Nov 18 21:17:54 2009 From: ken.manheimer at gmail.com (ken manheimer) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:17:54 -0500 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] appscript CommandError timeout - always before 2**16 transactions, sometimes well before In-Reply-To: <7AD53280-B821-42E5-95C2-8856DE0C15FB@gmail.com> References: <2cd46e7f0911061558r330573d0mc5ace6fa1d7b0b77@mail.gmail.com> <2cd46e7f0911181154p3308c19dy563e3c0e772af7f2@mail.gmail.com> <7AD53280-B821-42E5-95C2-8856DE0C15FB@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2cd46e7f0911181217p2e739f46x979fc7977394afb3@mail.gmail.com> heya, gary - thanks!! good to know. (and, good to hear from you - hope things are going well!) On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Gary Poster wrote: > Hey Ken. :-) > > It hung for me. > > Gary > > got a CommandError at count 57474 > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "", line 1, in > File "", line 21, in first_timeout > File "build/bdist.macosx-10.6-universal/egg/appscript/reference.py", line > 504, in __call__ > appscript.reference.CommandError: Command failed: > OSERROR: -1712 > MESSAGE: Apple event timed out. > COMMAND: > app(u'/Applications/iTunes.app').tracks[1].name.get() > > > On Nov 18, 2009, at 2:54 PM, ken manheimer wrote: > > > def first_timeout(): > > """Gratuitous itunes appscript reference cycle to elicit a timeout. > > > > It usually happens on some systems after just about 2**16 (= > 2**2**2**2) > > interactions, and sometimes substantially before that.""" > > import appscript > > import sys > > itunes = appscript.app('itunes') > > t = itunes.tracks[1] > > count = 0 > > class PassedLimit(Exception): pass > > try: > > while True: > > count += 1 > > if count % 1000 == 0: > > sys.stderr.write("%i\n" % count) > > if count > 65530: > > sys.stderr.write("%i\n" % count) > > elif count > 66000: > > raise PassedLimit > > x = t.name.get() > > except appscript.reference.CommandError: > > sys.stderr.write("got a CommandError at count %i\n" % count) > > raise > > except PassedLimit: > > sys.stderr.write("exceeded threshold without triggering the > timeout\n") > > -- ken http://myriadicity.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From looris at gmail.com Thu Nov 19 11:44:20 2009 From: looris at gmail.com (Lorenzo "Lo'oris" Petrone) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:44:20 +0100 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] DistutilsFileError In-Reply-To: <8ffcc410911181136l7b6476ddue4d49858f8d225d8@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ffcc410911181136l7b6476ddue4d49858f8d225d8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8ffcc410911190244n26bf967blf6c2159568e60710@mail.gmail.com> using OSX 10.5, python 2.6.4 what does it mean, and what I'm supposed to do? Palace-of-the-Nine-Moons:~/Sviluppo/varie/patollone looris$ py2applet setup.py patoll [...] *** creating application bundle: setup *** Traceback (most recent call last): ?File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/python2.6/site-packages/py2app-0.4.3-py2.6.egg/py2app/build_app.py", line 589, in _run ? ?self.run_normal() ?File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/python2.6/site-packages/py2app-0.4.3-py2.6.egg/py2app/build_app.py", line 660, in run_normal ? ?self.create_binaries(py_files, pkgdirs, extensions, loader_files) ?File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/python2.6/site-packages/py2app-0.4.3-py2.6.egg/py2app/build_app.py", line 755, in create_binaries ? ?target, arcname, pkgexts, copyexts, target.script) ?File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/python2.6/site-packages/py2app-0.4.3-py2.6.egg/py2app/build_app.py", line 1180, in build_executable ? ?copy_resource(src, dest, dry_run=self.dry_run) ?File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/python2.6/site-packages/py2app-0.4.3-py2.6.egg/py2app/util.py", line 96, in copy_resource ? ?copy_file(source, destination, dry_run=dry_run) ?File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/python2.6/site-packages/py2app-0.4.3-py2.6.egg/py2app/util.py", line 101, in copy_file ? ?zf, zp = path_to_zip(source) ?File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/python2.6/site-packages/py2app-0.4.3-py2.6.egg/py2app/util.py", line 133, in path_to_zip ? ?raise DistutilsFileError(path) DistutilsFileError: /Users/looris/Sviluppo/varie/patollone > /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/python2.6/site-packages/py2app-0.4.3-py2.6.egg/py2app/util.py(133)path_to_zip() -> raise DistutilsFileError(path) (Pdb) Traceback (most recent call last): ?File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/bin/py2applet", line 8, in ? ?load_entry_point('py2app==0.4.3', 'console_scripts', 'py2applet')() ?File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/python2.6/site-packages/py2app-0.4.3-py2.6.egg/py2app/script_py2applet.py", line 134, in main ? ?build(args, scripts, data_files, options) ?File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/python2.6/site-packages/py2app-0.4.3-py2.6.egg/py2app/script_py2applet.py", line 187, in build ? ?target.appdir, AttributeError: 'Target' object has no attribute 'appdir' Palace-of-the-Nine-Moons:~/Sviluppo/varie/patollone looris$ ps: I tried to send this mail without being subscribed, but it got discarded without notice. Is it intentional? I mean, the lack of a notice. I expected a message such as "you're not subscribed, you can't post". -- venera Lo'oris su http://looris.net From ivan at llaisdy.com Thu Nov 19 12:19:06 2009 From: ivan at llaisdy.com (Ivan Uemlianin) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:19:06 +0000 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Pythonmac-SIG Digest, Vol 79, Issue 11 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B0529AA.3010203@llaisdy.com> Ned Thanks very much for your help! I upgraded to Python 2.6.4 (from python.org) and easy_install ran fine. I have run a couple of examples to verify. All the best Ivan > Those errors are a result of using the 10.6 default gcc-4.2 rather than > gcc-4.0. Because of this problem, a fix was added to Python 2.6.3 to > automatically force use of gcc-4.0 and there were other important fixes > in 2.6.3 and 2.6.4 for OS X environments. Upgrade to Python 2.6.4 and > that problem should go away. With 2.6.4 (and possibly updating either > setuptools or distribute), easy_install appscript should work just fine -- ============================================================ Ivan A. Uemlianin Speech Technology Research and Development ivan at llaisdy.com www.llaisdy.com llaisdy.wordpress.com www.linkedin.com/in/ivanuemlianin "Froh, froh! Wie seine Sonnen, seine Sonnen fliegen" (Schiller, Beethoven) ============================================================ From ronaldoussoren at mac.com Thu Nov 19 15:29:31 2009 From: ronaldoussoren at mac.com (Ronald Oussoren) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:29:31 +0100 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] DistutilsFileError In-Reply-To: <8ffcc410911190244n26bf967blf6c2159568e60710@mail.gmail.com> References: <8ffcc410911181136l7b6476ddue4d49858f8d225d8@mail.gmail.com> <8ffcc410911190244n26bf967blf6c2159568e60710@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 19 Nov, 2009, at 11:44, Lorenzo Lo'oris Petrone wrote: > > > > ps: I tried to send this mail without being subscribed, but it got > discarded without notice. Is it intentional? I mean, the lack of a > notice. I expected a message such as "you're not subscribed, you can't > post". The list is moderated for non-subscribers, I guess the moderator hasn't checked the queue yet. Ronald -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Kernighan From kp8 at mac.com Fri Nov 20 15:38:40 2009 From: kp8 at mac.com (kevin parks) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:38:40 +0900 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] 2.5 -v- 2.6 conflicts on 10.5.x In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I am trying to compile an audio package that imbeds python. One issue is that it apparently expect to find apple's built in python (i am on 10.5.8 here no snowkitty yet) but I also have 2.6 installed. So when i do the ./configure --with-python make make install and run a script this at the top i get: import sys print 'Python %s on %s (%s)' % (sys.version.split()[0], sys.platform.title(), sys.prefix) for item in sys.path: print item I get: Python 2.6.2 on Darwin (/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/ 2.6) ok so that is no good. If i do the make clean make distclean ./configure --with-python=/usr/local/bin/python2.5 make make install or even ./configure --with-python=/usr/bin/python etc.... I *still* get: Python 2.6.2 on Darwin (/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/ 2.6) It seems like no matter what i do, when the binary is built, it is compiled around 2.6. For those of you on 10.5 with the Apple and 2.6.x Python.... how do you point to one or the other? And when you install 2.6 does it move stuff around or fiddle with your frameworks or whatever? Folks who have 10.5.x and only the Apple supplied Python (2.5.x) are able to build this right out of the box, plug and chug. Folks who have 2.6 and Apple's build can't seem to compile this package correctly. Any thoughts at all? The package is RTcmix (found @ RTcmix.org) From Chris.Barker at noaa.gov Fri Nov 20 18:24:44 2009 From: Chris.Barker at noaa.gov (Christopher Barker) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:24:44 -0800 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] 2.5 -v- 2.6 conflicts on 10.5.x In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B06D0DC.6@noaa.gov> kevin parks wrote: > I am trying to compile an audio package that imbeds python. One issue is > that it apparently expect to find apple's built in python (i am on > 10.5.8 here no snowkitty yet) > I get: > > Python 2.6.2 on Darwin (/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6) > > ok so that is no good. If i do the > make clean > make distclean > ./configure --with-python=/usr/local/bin/python2.5 > make > make install > > or even > ./configure --with-python=/usr/bin/python > > > etc.... I *still* get: > > > Python 2.6.2 on Darwin (/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6) the system python is in /System/Library/Frameworks/.... So you may want to put some version of that path into your --with-python configure flag. /usr/bin/python is a symlink. > For those of you on 10.5 with the Apple and 2.6.x Python.... how do you > point to one or the > other? I think this really depends on how the configure script was written -- so I'd ask on that list. If it needs a particular version, it appears to be pretty poorly written! I don't know squat about autoconf, so I can't help there. > And when you install 2.6 does it move stuff around or fiddle with > your frameworks > or whatever? no -- all it does is add it to your PATH. So you MAY be able to simply remove 2.6 from your PATH, and then run configure again. If that doesn't work, I'd try renaming /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6, and then trying again. One question: It seems you can compile and run it this way -- are you sure it doesn't work with 2.6? HTH, -Chris -- Christopher Barker, Ph.D. Oceanographer Emergency Response Division NOAA/NOS/OR&R (206) 526-6959 voice 7600 Sand Point Way NE (206) 526-6329 fax Seattle, WA 98115 (206) 526-6317 main reception Chris.Barker at noaa.gov From hengist.podd at virgin.net Sat Nov 21 08:41:05 2009 From: hengist.podd at virgin.net (has) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 07:41:05 +0000 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] [ann] appscript 0.20.2 In-Reply-To: <2cd46e7f0911181145v1758fa69g892ad9f6af5c85b7@mail.gmail.com> References: <2cd46e7f0911181145v1758fa69g892ad9f6af5c85b7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5998D799-5F38-4A26-9C32-39E0C72EB394@virgin.net> On 18 Nov 2009, at 19:45, ken manheimer wrote: > hi. a while back i posted about an appscript CommandError timeout i encounter at high command interaction counts. not surprisingly, the problem (i'll reiterate the details below) still happens in 0.20.2. i'm wondering if you (or any of the other appscript developers) have any thoughts about this? it might be an apple events problem (eg, http://db.tidbits.com/article/10643, except i was seeing the problem in 10.5 leopard and not just snow leopard), or a problem with my machine, but the 2^16 limit happens always, and sometimes the machine gets in a state where it happens much sooner. Testing on 10.5.8 here doesn't throw up any errors. Have you tried it with a different application? Have you tried it with AppleScript? > here are the details: > > the behavior is an appscript.reference.CommandError timeout after some number of appscript transactions. there seems to be a hard limit just before 2**16 (65536) commands (actually, at 65529 commands, The auto-incrementing return ID is global to the system, so if other apps send events, that will also increment the counter. And since the counter is probably non-zero on your first run, you'll need to run your script several times, ignoring the result from the first run as that will almost certainly be artificially low. > while i'm curious about the reason for the high hard limit, the reduced limits are actually a problem - even the 57000/58000 ceiling interferes with my script operation when running against a lot of playlists and tracks (88/9300), to the point that i've had to include kludgy measures to work around the problem. I'd recommend reading the optimisation chapter of the appscript manual - many commands can operate on multiple objects at once, which will reduce the number of events sent and generally speed things up. That won't solve the problem - the 10.6 timeout bug is an Apple problem (which they've still not fixed in 10.6.2; I suggest folks file lots of radar reports on this issue to make Apple aware that it's a serious problem). The only other thing I can suggest is to monkey-patch the aem.Application._createproc function (or possibly even code a permanent workaround into ae.c itself) so that any time the Apple Event Manager's AECreateAppleEvent function returns a new event with the known-to-be-bad return ID, it chucks it and asks for a fresh one. I really don't have time to work on this right now, but if anyone else wants to have a go and submit a patch they'd be welcome to. HTH has -- Control AppleScriptable applications from Python, Ruby and ObjC: http://appscript.sourceforge.net From kp8 at mac.com Sat Nov 21 12:16:27 2009 From: kp8 at mac.com (kevin parks) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:16:27 +0900 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] 2.5 -v- 2.6 conflicts on 10.5.x In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3AAD5FF6-E479-439C-8EDD-DC78AD1466FD@mac.com> On Nov 21, 2009, at 8:00 PM, pythonmac-sig-request at python.org wrote: >> >> >> Python 2.6.2 on Darwin (/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/ >> Versions/2.6) > > the system python is in /System/Library/Frameworks/.... > > So you may want to put some version of that path into your --with- > python > configure flag. /usr/bin/python is a symlink. A-ha. > >> For those of you on 10.5 with the Apple and 2.6.x Python.... how do >> you >> point to one or the >> other? > > I think this really depends on how the configure script was written -- > so I'd ask on that list. If it needs a particular version, it > appears to > be pretty poorly written! I don't know squat about autoconf, so I > can't > help there. I am also asking on that list. > >> And when you install 2.6 does it move stuff around or fiddle with >> your frameworks >> or whatever? > > no -- all it does is add it to your PATH. > > So you MAY be able to simply remove 2.6 from your PATH, and then run > configure again. If that doesn't work, I'd try renaming > /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6, and then trying > again. > > One question: > > It seems you can compile and run it this way -- are you sure it > doesn't > work with 2.6? The problem i was having was that even though it builds without 2.6 but it doesn't see any modules. If i do: $ python Python 2.6.2 (r262:71600, Apr 16 2009, 09:17:39) [GCC 4.0.1 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 5250)] on darwin Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>> import kptools >>> My modules in my pythonpath load and i can see the whole namespace of that module just fine. but if i try to access the same module with the same version of python (via rtcmix) $ /Users/kp8/RTcmix-all/bin/PYCMIX < /Users/kp8/rtcmix/ stereo-sfp.py --------> RTcmix 4.0.1 (/Users/kp8/RTcmix-all/bin/PYCMIX) <-------- Traceback (most recent call last): File "???", line 6, in ImportError: No module named kptools kp8[521]$ It doesn't see anything. Now it may be that i would have the same problem on python2.5 but the folks on the cmix list told me that i was making it much more complicated by trying to build it around 2.6 and that i should try to get it built on the Apple supplied 2.5 first, but truth be told, i would *LOVE* to get this working on 2.6 since i then would not have to jigger any of my 2.6 code (all those enumerates i used would have to be change for one! ugh!) That PYCMIX is not seeing any of my modules is perhaps not a 2.5 -v- 2.6 problem. Any thoughts on that? 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URL: From kp8 at mac.com Sat Nov 21 17:17:00 2009 From: kp8 at mac.com (kevin parks) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:17:00 +0900 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] 2.5 -v- 2.6 conflicts on 10.5.x In-Reply-To: <3AAD5FF6-E479-439C-8EDD-DC78AD1466FD@mac.com> References: <3AAD5FF6-E479-439C-8EDD-DC78AD1466FD@mac.com> Message-ID: <45950959-F055-4685-80FD-FEDE3CD705FC@mac.com> Thanks Christopher Barker! I did tried a bunch of your suggestions and one of them appeared to work, but in a way i had not expected. Anyway, I emptied my path (in .bash_profile) of all silliness and did a took out the '/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/python2.6/site- packages' Logged out and back in again and did the make clean make distclean ./configure --with-python sudo make sudo make install dance & it compiled .... and, i suspected compiled with 2.5. Well a poke with: import distutils.sysconfig distutils.sysconfig.get_python_lib() reports that it actually (despite the path jiggery) built on 2.6. So, hosed right? Well, no it actually works, and furthermore sees all my modules within PYCMIX, which is odd since this is not supposed to work yet with 2.6 but appears to. I ran a couple scripts and it spit out all kinds of sounds and did all my module imports. A very unexpected turn of events, and i'll test it over the next week, but bottom line: it appears to work. Thanks for your suggestions. Even better that it works with 2.6 since then i don't have 2.5ify my code. I cant tell you how many instances of, say, enumerate, i would have had to change in my code. best, kevin On Nov 21, 2009, at 8:16 PM, kevin parks wrote: > >> >> So you MAY be able to simply remove 2.6 from your PATH, and then run >> configure again. If that doesn't work, I'd try renaming >> /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6, and then trying >> again. >> >> One question: >> >> It seems you can compile and run it this way -- are you sure it >> doesn't >> work with 2.6? > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Chris.Barker at noaa.gov Mon Nov 23 20:59:32 2009 From: Chris.Barker at noaa.gov (Christopher Barker) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:59:32 -0800 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] 2.5 -v- 2.6 conflicts on 10.5.x In-Reply-To: <45950959-F055-4685-80FD-FEDE3CD705FC@mac.com> References: <3AAD5FF6-E479-439C-8EDD-DC78AD1466FD@mac.com> <45950959-F055-4685-80FD-FEDE3CD705FC@mac.com> Message-ID: <4B0AE9A4.2010204@noaa.gov> kevin parks wrote: > I did tried a bunch of your suggestions and one of them appeared to > work, but in a way i had not expected. that is odd, but as long as you've got it working, why mess with it? -CHB -- Christopher Barker, Ph.D. Oceanographer Emergency Response Division NOAA/NOS/OR&R (206) 526-6959 voice 7600 Sand Point Way NE (206) 526-6329 fax Seattle, WA 98115 (206) 526-6317 main reception Chris.Barker at noaa.gov From ronaldoussoren at mac.com Tue Nov 24 10:49:37 2009 From: ronaldoussoren at mac.com (Ronald Oussoren) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:49:37 +0100 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Py2app error with libpng In-Reply-To: <4AF4A948.6020209@codebykevin.com> References: <5db256250911060827o2536f8bbif200628ae230ec26@mail.gmail.com> <4AF4A948.6020209@codebykevin.com> Message-ID: On 6 Nov, 2009, at 23:55, Kevin Walzer wrote: > On 11/6/09 11:27 AM, Brian Zambrano wrote: >> Hi there, >> >> I'm building an app with py2app and it runs successfully both on my >> computer and a friends. We both have the developer tools installed. On >> two other Macs, the application would die when loading one of the >> matplotlib .so files. The problem is that the .so, matplotlib/_png.so, >> is linking to: >> >> /usr/X11/lib/libpng12.0.dylib >> >> ...which doesn't exist on the two machines where the crash is occurring. >> >> My understanding is that py2app (or, macholib?) tries to resolve these >> dependencies and copy over the necessary dylibs. >> >> I've tried adding /usr/X11/lib/libpng12.0.dylib to the build with the >> 'frameworks' argument, but that doesn't seem to do anything. Now, I'm >> thinking of doing a manual copy of that file into the Framework >> directory, along with using install_name_tool. >> >> What's the best way to handle this? >> > > py2app typically doesn't include system files. I think /usr/lib is considered a system directory, which may explain why it's not bundling the files. That's correct. /usr/lib is a system directory, and hence anything in it is assumed to be a file owned by Apple. That's why those files are not copied into the application bundle. Ronald > > --Kevin > > -- > Kevin Walzer > Code by Kevin > http://www.codebykevin.com > _______________________________________________ > Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 3567 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ronaldoussoren at mac.com Tue Nov 24 11:02:56 2009 From: ronaldoussoren at mac.com (Ronald Oussoren) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:02:56 +0100 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Py2app PIL recipe In-Reply-To: <4AEF2EB7.7020101@noaa.gov> References: <4AEF2EB7.7020101@noaa.gov> Message-ID: <51820728-3297-429C-B8CF-00DB36472149@mac.com> On 2 Nov, 2009, at 20:10, Christopher Barker wrote: > Hi folks, > > For a while now, PIL has provided a proper package, so that you can do: > > from PIL import Image > > rather than relying on a pth file and: > > import Image > > > I'm such a fanatic about "proper" use of packages and namespaces that I removed the PIL.pth file from my system. > > Then I tried to use py2app on a program that uses PIL. It turns out that the PIL py2app recipe has a prescript.py file that gets put into the bundle, and it uses the old "import Image" form. > > I've hacked it to use: > > try: > import Image > except ImportError: > from PIL import Image # note: the newer way to import PIL > import sys I will commit this patch once py2apps repository gets back (I have connectivity problems to the repo at the moment) > > instead, which works fine for me. > > I'd really rather simple use the package form: > > from PIL import Image # note: the newer way to import PIL > > all by itself, but there is some chance that that would break older PIL installations -- or is there? when was the PIL directory made a package? I don't know, I don't even know which name is the preferred one. The PIL Handbook () uses 'import Image' throughout. Ronald -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 3567 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Chris.Barker at noaa.gov Tue Nov 24 20:06:39 2009 From: Chris.Barker at noaa.gov (Christopher Barker) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:06:39 -0800 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Py2app PIL recipe In-Reply-To: <51820728-3297-429C-B8CF-00DB36472149@mac.com> References: <4AEF2EB7.7020101@noaa.gov> <51820728-3297-429C-B8CF-00DB36472149@mac.com> Message-ID: <4B0C2EBF.8010502@noaa.gov> Ronald Oussoren wrote: > I will commit this patch once py2apps repository gets back (I have connectivity problems to the repo at the moment) great, thanks. > I don't know, I don't even know which name is the preferred one. I'm clear on that -- every package has moved to using namespaces over the years. The PIL Handbook () uses 'import Image' throughout. That's a pretty old document. I don't know what Fredrik thinks, but given that those are the docs, it's best to support it. However, my suggested change only effects how py2app finds PIL, I don't think it would break any user code. No harm in having both ways, though. -Chris -- Christopher Barker, Ph.D. Oceanographer NOAA/OR&R/HAZMAT (206) 526-6959 voice 7600 Sand Point Way NE (206) 526-6329 fax Seattle, WA 98115 (206) 526-6317 main reception From janssen at parc.com Tue Nov 24 20:27:44 2009 From: janssen at parc.com (Bill Janssen) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:27:44 PST Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Py2app PIL recipe In-Reply-To: <51820728-3297-429C-B8CF-00DB36472149@mac.com> References: <4AEF2EB7.7020101@noaa.gov> <51820728-3297-429C-B8CF-00DB36472149@mac.com> Message-ID: <79658.1259090864@parc.com> Ronald Oussoren wrote: > I don't know, I don't even know which name is the preferred one. The > PIL Handbook > () uses > 'import Image' throughout. Note that the on-line PIL handbook is from 4.5 years ago. Bill From ronaldoussoren at mac.com Tue Nov 24 20:44:49 2009 From: ronaldoussoren at mac.com (Ronald Oussoren) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:44:49 +0100 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Py2app PIL recipe In-Reply-To: <79658.1259090864@parc.com> References: <4AEF2EB7.7020101@noaa.gov> <51820728-3297-429C-B8CF-00DB36472149@mac.com> <79658.1259090864@parc.com> Message-ID: On 24 Nov, 2009, at 20:27, Bill Janssen wrote: > Ronald Oussoren wrote: > >> I don't know, I don't even know which name is the preferred one. The >> PIL Handbook >> () uses >> 'import Image' throughout. > > Note that the on-line PIL handbook is from 4.5 years ago. Is there more recent documentation? Even the version at effbot's site says 'import Image'. Some of the examples in the 1.1.6 distribution seem to have been converted to 'from PIL import Image', but I haven't found a definite source that says which is the prefered style. Ronald -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I don't know what Fredrik thinks, but given that those are the docs, it's best to support it. However, my suggested change only effects how py2app finds PIL, I don't think it would break any user code. > > No harm in having both ways, though. I'm not 100% sure about that though, users may now end up with two copies of PIL unless they remove the .pth file as well. That wouldn't be a disaster, but I'd prefer to avoid that. Ronald -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 3567 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Chris.Barker at noaa.gov Tue Nov 24 23:08:26 2009 From: Chris.Barker at noaa.gov (Christopher Barker) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:08:26 -0800 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Py2app PIL recipe In-Reply-To: <24167DF9-22BC-4B8B-88D7-F4E78CDDEA5B@mac.com> References: <4AEF2EB7.7020101@noaa.gov> <51820728-3297-429C-B8CF-00DB36472149@mac.com> <4B0C2EBF.8010502@noaa.gov> <24167DF9-22BC-4B8B-88D7-F4E78CDDEA5B@mac.com> Message-ID: <4B0C595A.90308@noaa.gov> Ronald Oussoren wrote: >> No harm in having both ways, though. > > I'm not 100% sure about that though, users may now end up with two copies of PIL unless they remove the .pth file as well. That wouldn't be a disaster, but I'd prefer to avoid that. hmm -- I suppose we should check that. I agree that it's probably not a good idea to have the contents of the package also in sys.path, but that's how PIL is installed now. It seems that users could have it imported in two different ways in their own code, regardless of how py2app imports it. I guess the question is whether modulegraph is smart enough to realize that they are the same thing! -Chris -- Christopher Barker, Ph.D. Oceanographer Emergency Response Division NOAA/NOS/OR&R (206) 526-6959 voice 7600 Sand Point Way NE (206) 526-6329 fax Seattle, WA 98115 (206) 526-6317 main reception Chris.Barker at noaa.gov From hengist.podd at virgin.net Tue Nov 24 23:36:13 2009 From: hengist.podd at virgin.net (has) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:36:13 +0000 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] py-appscript 0.20.3 Message-ID: <8773F3AC-0873-47F6-9587-07A1E114DAC0@virgin.net> Hi all, Just checked in rev. 69 which contains a couple of 64-bit bug fixes along with a workaround for OS 10.6's return ID bug. Unfortunately, I don't have time to do a thorough test, particularly of 32- and 64-bit support on Python 3.1.1 (the python.org framework distro is 32-bit only), and I don't want to do a new release until it's been checked properly. If any appscript users here are willing to give it a workout (Python 2.3-3.1.1, 10.4-10.6, 32-bit PPC/i386, x86-64) and let me know if everything's okay or if any issues are still outstanding, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks, has -- Control AppleScriptable applications from Python, Ruby and ObjC: http://appscript.sourceforge.net From nad at acm.org Wed Nov 25 02:34:33 2009 From: nad at acm.org (Ned Deily) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:34:33 -0800 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] py-appscript 0.20.3 References: <8773F3AC-0873-47F6-9587-07A1E114DAC0@virgin.net> Message-ID: In article <8773F3AC-0873-47F6-9587-07A1E114DAC0 at virgin.net>, has wrote: > Just checked in rev. 69 which contains a couple of 64-bit bug fixes along > with a workaround for OS 10.6's return ID bug. Unfortunately, I don't have > time to do a thorough test, particularly of 32- and 64-bit support on Python > 3.1.1 (the python.org framework distro is 32-bit only), and I don't want to > do a new release until it's been checked properly. If any appscript users > here are willing to give it a workout (Python 2.3-3.1.1, 10.4-10.6, 32-bit > PPC/i386, x86-64) and let me know if everything's okay or if any issues are > still outstanding, I'd really appreciate it. I just had time to run a few quick install and trivial functional test (with iTunes and Safari). The "outliers" seemed to work OK: custom python3.1+ x86_64 and i386 on 10.6.2 using Distribute 0.6.8 easy_install Apple python2.3 ppc (G3) on 10.4.11 using setuptools 0.6c11 easy_install plus MacPorts python2.6.4 on i386 10.6.2 (setuptools 0.6c11) However, attempts on a 10.5.8 PPC (G4) failed with: $ /usr/bin/python2.5 Python 2.5.1 (r251:54863, Feb 6 2009, 19:02:12) [GCC 4.0.1 (Apple Inc. build 5465)] on darwin Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>> from appscript import * Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in File "build/bdist.macosx-10.5-ppc/egg/appscript/__init__.py", line 11, in File "build/bdist.macosx-10.5-ppc/egg/aem/__init__.py", line 6, in File "build/bdist.macosx-10.5-ppc/egg/aem/aemconnect.py", line 28, in File "build/bdist.macosx-10.5-ppc/egg/aem/aemsend.py", line 55, in __init__ aem.ae.MacOSError: -1700 Same results with the python.org 2.6.4 on this machine either via setuptools easy_install or direct python setup.py install. -- Ned Deily, nad at acm.org From nad at acm.org Wed Nov 25 02:49:21 2009 From: nad at acm.org (Ned Deily) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:49:21 -0800 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] py-appscript 0.20.3 References: <8773F3AC-0873-47F6-9587-07A1E114DAC0@virgin.net> Message-ID: In article , Ned Deily wrote: > Same results with the python.org 2.6.4 on this machine either via > setuptools easy_install or direct python setup.py install. Sorry, I overlooked the fact that the 2.6.4 traceback is a little more informative (again on 10.5.8 PPC G4): $ /usr/local/bin/python2.6 Python 2.6.4 (r264:75821M, Oct 27 2009, 19:48:32) [GCC 4.0.1 (Apple Inc. build 5493)] on darwin Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>> from appscript import * Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/python2.6/site-pac kages/appscript-0.20.2-py2.6-macosx-10.3-fat.egg/appscript/__init__.py", line 11, in from aem.findapp import ApplicationNotFoundError File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/python2.6/site-pac kages/appscript-0.20.2-py2.6-macosx-10.3-fat.egg/aem/__init__.py", line 6, in import ae, kae, findapp, mactypes, aemconnect File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/python2.6/site-pac kages/appscript-0.20.2-py2.6-macosx-10.3-fat.egg/aem/aemconnect.py", line 28, in _launchevent = Event(_nulladdressdesc, 'ascrnoop').AEM_event File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/python2.6/site-pac kages/appscript-0.20.2-py2.6-macosx-10.3-fat.egg/aem/aemsend.py", line 55, in __init__ self.AEM_event = createproc(event[:4], event[4:], address, returnid, transaction) aem.ae.MacOSError: -1700 -- Ned Deily, nad at acm.org From hengist.podd at virgin.net Wed Nov 25 11:24:51 2009 From: hengist.podd at virgin.net (hengist.podd e-mail) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:24:51 +0000 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] py-appscript 0.20.3 Message-ID: Ned Deily wrote: >> If any appscript users >> here are willing to give it a workout (Python 2.3-3.1.1, 10.4-10.6, 32-bit >> PPC/i386, x86-64) and let me know if everything's okay or if any issues are >> still outstanding, I'd really appreciate it. > > I just had time to run a few quick install and trivial functional test > (with iTunes and Safari). > The "outliers" seemed to work OK: > [...] > However, attempts on a 10.5.8 PPC (G4) failed with > [...] > aem.ae.MacOSError: -1700 OK, 10.5 seems to pack return IDs as typeSInt32 rather than typeSInt16. Shouldn't matter, except that there isn't a SInt32-to-SInt16 coercion handler installed so AEGetAttributePtr fails when I try to extract the newly created AppleEvent's return ID. I've tweaked it (rev 693) to retrieve the return ID as SInt32, which seems to work on both 10.6 and 10.5; could you please retest on all platforms and let me know if that does the trick. (Also, if you see any system flipper warnings, let me know; I've been trying to squash those as well.) Once I'm reasonably sure nothing's broken, I'll push it onto PyPI and cross fingers I can call it 1.0.0 by Christmas unless anyone can see anything else that needs done. Many thanks, has From rowen at uw.edu Mon Nov 9 23:54:35 2009 From: rowen at uw.edu (Russell E. Owen) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:54:35 -0000 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app and pygame results in application that may not launch Message-ID: I am using py2app to bundle a standalone application (containing its own python) that used to use tkSnack to play sound cues. I recently switched to pygame because the sound cues were no longer paying reliably with tkSnack. Before switching to pygame the Mac applications I produced seemed to run for all my users. Now they run for some users but fail to start with others. I have appended a crash dump from one user. I cannot see the problem on my own pair of Macs -- each binary runs on either, even if I temporarily move /Library/Frameworks/Python... and Tcl... and Tk... I have tried building on Leopard and on Snow Leopard and it makes no obvious difference (though i have not compared crash logs in detail). Some possibly relevant details: - It seems to be something with fonts. - At least one user who complains uses MacPorts (but tried disabling it and it ran). - Sometimes the application will run once or twice, then not again. - Once I dragged a new version of my binary over an old one (to replace it) and MacOS X told me I could not do that because a font was in use. One binary is available here (built on Leopard with py2pp 0.4.3) Any idea what I can do to fix this? The only relevant hit I found in a google search was from somebody complaining about a similar problem that struck between pygame 1.8.0 and 1.8.1. Barring any better solutions I will try reverting to from 1.9.1 to 1.8.0. -- Russell Configuration of my build machines (one Leopard, one Snow Leopard): MacOS X 10.5.8 and 10.6.1 Python 2.5.2 from python.org py2app 0.4.3 (also seen with an older version) pygame 1.9.1 Twisted 8.2.0 matplotlib 0.99.0 (the official binary) Tcl/Tk 8.4.19 (ActiveState) numpy 1.3.0 (the official binary) PIL 1.1.6 (the official binary) pyfits 2.2 Crash Dump: Process: ????????STUI [96116] Path: ???????????/Applications/STUI.app/Contents/MacOS/STUI Identifier: ?????org.pythonmac.unspecified.STUI Version: ????????0.4a5 (0.0.0) Code Type: ??????X86 (Native) Parent Process: ?launchd [134] Date/Time: ??????2009-11-09 16:55:49.296 -0500 OS Version: ?????Mac OS X 10.6.1 (10B504) Report Version: ?6 Interval Since Last Report: ?????????29185 sec Crashes Since Last Report: ??????????2 Per-App Interval Since Last Report: ?10 sec Per-App Crashes Since Last Report: ??2 Anonymous UUID: ?????????????????????2DCF782A-69D9-49A5-AA1D-4A3DC530E92F Exception Type: ?EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGABRT) Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x0000000000000000 Crashed Thread: ?0 ?Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread Application Specific Information: abort() called Thread 0 Crashed: ?Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread 0 ??libSystem.B.dylib ???????????? 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(???) /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib Model: MacBookPro5,1, BootROM MBP51.0074.B01, 2 processors, Intel Core 2 Duo, 2.53 GHz, 4 GB, SMC 1.33f8 Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT, NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT, PCIe, 512 MB Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 9400M, NVIDIA GeForce 9400M, PCI, 256 MB Memory Module: global_name AirPort: spairport_wireless_card_type_airport_extreme (0x14E4, 0x8D), Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (5.10.91.19) Bluetooth: Version 2.2.1f7, 2 service, 0 devices, 1 incoming serial ports Network Service: Ethernet, Ethernet, en0 Network Service: AirPort, AirPort, en1 Serial ATA Device: Hitachi HTS543232L9SA02, 298.09 GB Serial ATA Device: MATSHITADVD-R ??UJ-868 USB Device: Built-in iSight, 0x05ac ?(Apple Inc.), 0x8507, 0x24400000 USB Device: Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad, 0x05ac ?(Apple Inc.), 0x0236, 0x04600000 USB Device: IR Receiver, 0x05ac ?(Apple Inc.), 0x8242, 0x04500000 USB Device: BRCM2046 Hub, 0x0a5c ?(Broadcom Corp.), 0x4500, 0x06100000 USB Device: Bluetooth USB Host Controller, 0x05ac ?(Apple Inc.), 0x8213, 0x06110000 From rowen at uw.edu Tue Nov 10 02:48:18 2009 From: rowen at uw.edu (Russell Owen) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:48:18 -0000 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app and pygame results in application that may not launch Message-ID: <88489D62-91BF-4BEA-B3FE-73ADBE7353D2@uw.edu> (I apologize if this is a duplicate; after half a day of not seeing the posting via gmane I am posting via email). I am using py2app to bundle a standalone application (containing its own python) that used to use tkSnack to play sound cues. I recently switched to pygame because the sound cues were no longer paying reliably with tkSnack. Before switching to pygame the Mac applications I produced seemed to run for all my users. Now they run for some users but fail to start with others. I have appended a crash dump from one user. I cannot see the problem on my own pair of Macs -- each binary runs on either, even if I temporarily move /Library/Frameworks/Python... and Tcl... and Tk... I have tried building on Leopard and on Snow Leopard and it makes no obvious difference (though i have not compared crash logs in detail). Some possibly relevant details: - It seems to be something with fonts. - At least one user who complains uses MacPorts (but tried disabling it and it ran). - Sometimes the application will run once or twice, then not again. - Once I dragged a new version of my binary over an old one (to replace it) and MacOS X told me I could not do that because a font was in use. One binary is available here (built on Leopard with py2pp 0.4.3) Any idea what I can do to fix this? The only relevant hit I found in a google search was from somebody complaining about a similar problem that struck between pygame 1.8.0 and 1.8.1. Barring any better solutions I will try reverting to from 1.9.1 to 1.8.0. -- Russell Configuration of my build machines (one Leopard, one Snow Leopard): MacOS X 10.5.8 and 10.6.1 Python 2.5.2 from python.org py2app 0.4.3 (also seen with an older version) pygame 1.9.1 Twisted 8.2.0 matplotlib 0.99.0 (the official binary) Tcl/Tk 8.4.19 (ActiveState) numpy 1.3.0 (the official binary) PIL 1.1.6 (the official binary) pyfits 2.2 Crash Dump: Process: STUI [96116] Path: /Applications/STUI.app/Contents/MacOS/STUI Identifier: org.pythonmac.unspecified.STUI Version: 0.4a5 (0.0.0) Code Type: X86 (Native) Parent Process: launchd [134] Date/Time: 2009-11-09 16:55:49.296 -0500 OS Version: Mac OS X 10.6.1 (10B504) Report Version: 6 Interval Since Last Report: 29185 sec Crashes Since Last Report: 2 Per-App Interval Since Last Report: 10 sec Per-App Crashes Since Last Report: 2 Anonymous UUID: 2DCF782A-69D9-49A5- AA1D-4A3DC530E92F Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGABRT) Exception Codes: 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(???) /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib Model: MacBookPro5,1, BootROM MBP51.0074.B01, 2 processors, Intel Core 2 Duo, 2.53 GHz, 4 GB, SMC 1.33f8 Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT, NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT, PCIe, 512 MB Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 9400M, NVIDIA GeForce 9400M, PCI, 256 MB Memory Module: global_name AirPort: spairport_wireless_card_type_airport_extreme (0x14E4, 0x8D), Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (5.10.91.19) Bluetooth: Version 2.2.1f7, 2 service, 0 devices, 1 incoming serial ports Network Service: Ethernet, Ethernet, en0 Network Service: AirPort, AirPort, en1 Serial ATA Device: Hitachi HTS543232L9SA02, 298.09 GB Serial ATA Device: MATSHITADVD-R UJ-868 USB Device: Built-in iSight, 0x05ac (Apple Inc.), 0x8507, 0x24400000 USB Device: Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad, 0x05ac (Apple Inc.), 0x0236, 0x04600000 USB Device: IR Receiver, 0x05ac (Apple Inc.), 0x8242, 0x04500000 USB Device: BRCM2046 Hub, 0x0a5c (Broadcom Corp.), 0x4500, 0x06100000 USB Device: Bluetooth USB Host Controller, 0x05ac (Apple Inc.), 0x8213, 0x06110000 From erik at letterror.com Mon Nov 23 16:08:52 2009 From: erik at letterror.com (Erik van Blokland) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:08:52 +0100 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Quartz, twisted.web and CGBitmapContextCreate Message-ID: <37967378-3403-4E1D-A823-24D2EC0F8254@letterror.com> Hi all, I'm hesitant to write this mail, but after a day of fruitless debugging, I need a reality check. OSX 10.6.2, stock Python 2.6.1 (r261:67515, Jul 7 2009, 23:51:51). At the center is a python object intended to generate a bitmap image. It uses CGBitmapContextCreate to make a new context, does some drawing and returns the image. All drawing, rendering works, all tests pass when running the script as a one-off test. But when I use the same object as part of a twisted.web internet.TCPServer, I get a hard crash when calling CGBitmapContextCreate, (report attached below). The twisted.web process itself runs well, I can access its pages and all (html) data is rendered properly. Only when I ask for the image the process pops the lid and is killed. According to http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/DOCUMENTATION/GraphicsImaging/Reference/CGBitmapContext/Reference/reference.html CGBitmapContextCreate asks for a chunk of memory where it can draw. When testing offline, passing None works, numpy and array.arrays also work. But none of the options prevent crashing in the online version. I can't see what goes on inside CGBitmapContextCreate and I don't have experience reading these crash reports. Looks like a memory thing no? Any pointers would be very welcome. Many thanks, Erik Process: Python [5617] Path: /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/Resources/Python.app/Contents/MacOS/Python Identifier: Python Version: ??? (???) Code Type: X86-64 (Native) Parent Process: ??? [1] Date/Time: 2009-11-23 15:40:08.076 +0100 OS Version: Mac OS X 10.6.2 (10C540) Report Version: 6 Interval Since Last Report: 242187 sec Crashes Since Last Report: 35 Per-App Crashes Since Last Report: 33 Anonymous UUID: F9FC4B74-FACA-42B0-B2C6-ED4326DE8CEA Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV) Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x0000000000000108 Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread Application Specific Information: *** single-threaded process forked *** Thread 0 Crashed: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x00007fff8528fc10 _dispatch_wakeup + 78 1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x00007fff85290f2c _dispatch_source_create2 + 261 2 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x00007fff83e28625 _initSharedCache() + 90 3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x00007fff8528f32a pthread_once + 95 4 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x00007fff83e28578 getSystemSession() + 40 5 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x00007fff83e28525 scCreateSystemCacheable + 39 6 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 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(???) <526DD3E5-2A8B-4512-ED97-01B832369959> /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib From ronaldoussoren at mac.com Wed Nov 25 16:43:46 2009 From: ronaldoussoren at mac.com (Ronald Oussoren) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:43:46 +0100 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Quartz, twisted.web and CGBitmapContextCreate In-Reply-To: <37967378-3403-4E1D-A823-24D2EC0F8254@letterror.com> References: <37967378-3403-4E1D-A823-24D2EC0F8254@letterror.com> Message-ID: <104156269194795376454353556086964962964-Webmail@me.com> On Monday, November 23, 2009, at 04:08PM, "Erik van Blokland" wrote: >Hi all, > >I'm hesitant to write this mail, but after a day of fruitless debugging, I need a reality check. OSX 10.6.2, stock Python 2.6.1 (r261:67515, Jul 7 2009, 23:51:51). > >At the center is a python object intended to generate a bitmap image. It uses CGBitmapContextCreate to make a new context, does some drawing and returns the image. All drawing, rendering works, all tests pass when running the script as a one-off test. >But when I use the same object as part of a twisted.web internet.TCPServer, I get a hard crash when calling CGBitmapContextCreate, (report attached below). The twisted.web process itself runs well, I can access its pages and all (html) data is rendered properly. Only when I ask for the image the process pops the lid and is killed. > >According to > http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/DOCUMENTATION/GraphicsImaging/Reference/CGBitmapContext/Reference/reference.html >CGBitmapContextCreate asks for a chunk of memory where it can draw. When testing offline, passing None works, numpy and array.arrays also work. But none of the options prevent crashing in the online version. > >I can't see what goes on inside CGBitmapContextCreate and I don't have experience reading these crash reports. Looks like a memory thing no? Any pointers would be very welcome. Crash reports tend to be pretty useless to find out what's really going on, especially with memory management issue. Do you have a simple example that shows of the bug? I really need that to debug when the issue does not occur in a basic command-line script. Ronald From orestis at orestis.gr Wed Nov 25 16:51:29 2009 From: orestis at orestis.gr (Orestis Markou) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:51:29 +0200 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Quartz, twisted.web and CGBitmapContextCreate In-Reply-To: <104156269194795376454353556086964962964-Webmail@me.com> References: <37967378-3403-4E1D-A823-24D2EC0F8254@letterror.com> <104156269194795376454353556086964962964-Webmail@me.com> Message-ID: On 25 Nov 2009, at 17:43, Ronald Oussoren wrote: > > On Monday, November 23, 2009, at 04:08PM, "Erik van Blokland" wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I'm hesitant to write this mail, but after a day of fruitless debugging, I need a reality check. OSX 10.6.2, stock Python 2.6.1 (r261:67515, Jul 7 2009, 23:51:51). >> >> At the center is a python object intended to generate a bitmap image. It uses CGBitmapContextCreate to make a new context, does some drawing and returns the image. All drawing, rendering works, all tests pass when running the script as a one-off test. >> But when I use the same object as part of a twisted.web internet.TCPServer, I get a hard crash when calling CGBitmapContextCreate, (report attached below). The twisted.web process itself runs well, I can access its pages and all (html) data is rendered properly. Only when I ask for the image the process pops the lid and is killed. Is the command line and the server version run under the same user? IME quartz functions require a connection to the window server, which means a graphical login is required. Just a thought. From nad at acm.org Thu Nov 26 07:57:38 2009 From: nad at acm.org (Ned Deily) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:57:38 -0800 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] py-appscript 0.20.3 References: Message-ID: In article , "hengist.podd e-mail" wrote: > OK, 10.5 seems to pack return IDs as typeSInt32 rather than > typeSInt16. Shouldn't matter, except that there isn't a > SInt32-to-SInt16 coercion handler installed so AEGetAttributePtr fails > when I try to extract the newly created AppleEvent's return ID. I've > tweaked it (rev 693) to retrieve the return ID as SInt32, which seems > to work on both 10.6 and 10.5; could you please retest on all > platforms and let me know if that does the trick. With the updates to ae.c, 10.5 now seems to work just fine. I repeated the very simple functionality tests with each of Apple-supplied 2.5.1, python.org 2.6.4 & 3.1.1, and MacPorts 2.6.4, all on PPC G4 (32-bit only). I also rechecked 10.4 on PPC G3 with Apple-supplied 2.3.5 and python.org 2.6.4, and 10.6 on Intel: Apple-supplied 2.6.1 (64-bit) and custom 3.1+ (64-bit and 32-bit). No problems noted. -- Ned Deily, nad at acm.org From erik at letterror.com Thu Nov 26 09:58:54 2009 From: erik at letterror.com (Erik van Blokland) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:58:54 +0100 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Quartz, twisted.web and CGBitmapContextCreate In-Reply-To: <104156269194795376454353556086964962964-Webmail@me.com> References: <37967378-3403-4E1D-A823-24D2EC0F8254@letterror.com> <104156269194795376454353556086964962964-Webmail@me.com> Message-ID: <5144FF7E-5935-4078-BC9C-E6C239A5C26E@letterror.com> Ronald, Orestis, Here's a small script that reproduces the crash. Stock Python 2.6.1 (r261:67515, Jul 7 2009, 23:51:51), current twistd. Background: an earlier version of my app uses CoreGraphics rather than Quartz and has been very reliable in twisted, python 2.3.5, OSX 10.4. CoreGraphics in 10.6 seems to have picked up some bugs (SImilar to: http://lists.apple.com/archives/quartz-dev/2009/Oct/msg00070.html ) I really want to move to Quartz, hence this attempt. Cheers, Erik #!/usr/bin/python """ This should test the interaction between a OSX Quartz call and twisted.web. To run, call the twistd binary with this script. On my machine, it lives here: /usr/bin/twistd -y twisted.quartz.test.py --pidfile quartztestpid.txt --logfile quartztest.log Then open the local host http:127.0.0.1:8080 Then wait for the crash report to pop up. """ from twisted.web import resource, server from twisted.internet import reactor from twisted.application import service, internet from Quartz import * import time rasterColorSpace = CGColorSpaceCreateWithName(kCGColorSpaceGenericRGB) def _makeContext(size): width, height = size data = None bitsPerComponent = 8 numComponents = 4 bestByteAlignment = 16 bytesPerRow = width * (bitsPerComponent / 8) * numComponents bytesPerRow = ((bytesPerRow + (bestByteAlignment - 1)) & ~(bestByteAlignment - 1)) bitmapInfo = kCGImageAlphaPremultipliedLast # documentation says None should work data = None # some samples use a numpy object #data = numpy.zeros( ( height, width, 8), numpy.uint8) # other samples use a array.array object #data = array.array('B', (0 for i in xrange(width*height*8))) # here it goes context = CGBitmapContextCreate(data, width, height, 8, bytesPerRow, rasterColorSpace, bitmapInfo) return context # Just to show the context does work when used outside of twistd. # This returns something like: # Obviously, printing in this place won't work in twistd. #print "_makeContext all by itself", _makeContext((100,100)) class RootResource(resource.Resource): def render_GET(self, request): if not hasattr(self, 'count'): self.count = 0 self.count += 1 ctx = _makeContext((100,100)) return "OK %d %s"%(self.count, ctx) def getChild(self, name, request): return self port = 8080 site = server.Site(RootResource()) application = service.Application('QuartzTestApp') sc = service.IServiceCollection(application) i = internet.TCPServer(port, site) i.setServiceParent(sc) From ronaldoussoren at mac.com Thu Nov 26 10:58:40 2009 From: ronaldoussoren at mac.com (Ronald Oussoren) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:58:40 +0100 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Py2app PIL recipe In-Reply-To: <4B0C595A.90308@noaa.gov> References: <4AEF2EB7.7020101@noaa.gov> <51820728-3297-429C-B8CF-00DB36472149@mac.com> <4B0C2EBF.8010502@noaa.gov> <24167DF9-22BC-4B8B-88D7-F4E78CDDEA5B@mac.com> <4B0C595A.90308@noaa.gov> Message-ID: <01DA1AA9-23C9-4317-88FB-FD57FCEA2FB0@mac.com> On 24 Nov, 2009, at 23:08, Christopher Barker wrote: > > > Ronald Oussoren wrote: > >>> No harm in having both ways, though. >> I'm not 100% sure about that though, users may now end up with two copies of PIL unless they remove the .pth file as well. That wouldn't be a disaster, but I'd prefer to avoid that. > > hmm -- I suppose we should check that. I agree that it's probably not a good idea to have the contents of the package also in sys.path, but that's how PIL is installed now. It seems that users could have it imported in two different ways in their own code, regardless of how py2app imports it. > > I guess the question is whether modulegraph is smart enough to realize that they are the same thing! The aren't according to the python rules: if you import both PIL.Image and Image you get two distinct modules in sys.modules (that is, sys.modules['Image'] is not sys.modules['PIL.Image']). PIL isn't too large, adding it twice won't really be a problem but it would be nice to avoid this issue. Ronald -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 3567 bytes Desc: not available URL: From hengist.podd at virgin.net Fri Nov 27 18:45:10 2009 From: hengist.podd at virgin.net (hengist.podd e-mail) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:45:10 +0000 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] py-appscript 0.20.3, 0.21.0 and impending 1.0.0 release (Re: py-appscript 0.20.3) Message-ID: Ned Deily wrote: > With the updates to ae.c, 10.5 now seems to work just fine. Great, thanks. I've tagged 0.20.3 in the repository, though haven't done a file release just yet. Does anyone have a 10.3.9 box they could use to confirm that 0.20.3 will work on that? I've been claiming 10.3.9 as baseline OS support for a few years now, but to be honest I've not tested it on anything below 10.4 for some time now. (I'm semi-tempted just to ignore the 10.3.9 compatibility issue until/unless an irate 10.3.9 brings it up, but it would be reassuring to know that 0.20.3 does support it okay so I can close out the 0.20.x series.) ... One more thing: I've chucked a preliminary 0.21.0 into the svn trunk. A couple of outstanding issues/omissions have been frustrating me recently, namely the annoying bouncing Dock icon and the inability to control multiple instances of the same app, so I've finally dealt with those. (Yay!) I've also fixed a couple of bugs I found after tagging 0.20.3 and removed some deprecated APIs in the run-up to 1.0.0. I'm also hoping I've squashed all remaining bugs in 10.6 and 64-bit support, plus any other code and documentation defects that have made it this far, but chances are there are things I've missed. I'd like to push out a release next week, so if folks could go beat on the trunk over the weekend (both code and documentation) that may help to pick up any remaining issues. Once 0.21.0 is released, no new features will be added, so if there's any geegaws I've previously promised and forgotten about then please let me know in the next couple days. Assuming no bugs are reported for 0.21.0 then appscript will go 1.0.0 at the end of the year, so please do what you can in the next month to save me the embarrassment of a 1.0.1 release in January. :) Many thanks, has From hengist.podd at virgin.net Sat Nov 28 12:53:27 2009 From: hengist.podd at virgin.net (has) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:53:27 +0000 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] py-appscript 0.20.3, 0.21.0 and impending 1.0.0 release (addendum) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: All, > One more thing: I've chucked a preliminary 0.21.0 into the svn trunk. > > A couple of outstanding issues/omissions have been frustrating me > recently, namely the annoying bouncing Dock icon I've noticed a caveat: The bouncing Dock icon is gone when using appscript 0.21.0 on a version of Python that was built against 10.5 or 10.6 SDKs. (Yay!) However, the wretched thing still appears when using a Python installation built against a 10.4 SDK - i.e. anything running on Tiger; the python.org framework distros. (Boo!) I suspect the 10.4 Process Manager APIs are more aggressive in escalating non-GUI processes to GUI status when called. As I am running out of system APIs for identifying running processes and the application bundles that launched them, this is probably something I can't/will not address as it would likely involve making ugly, fragile kludges in the appscript code. Bouncing icons in 10.4 I don't much care about as most folks are on newer OSes by now. Bouncing icons in 10.5 and 10.6 are definitely undesirable, but they're a consequence of the design of the Python framework and the design of certain OS X APIs. Appscript is a victim of circumstance here: I need to use those APIs, and I'm not willing to make my code fragile and failure-prone just to avoid irritating but technically harmless behaviours coming from some Python distributions and OS X. I am curious though (and this is probably a question for Ronald): how does PyObjC 2.x fare on python.org frameworks? If the framework is built against the 10.4 SDK, then presumably Cocoa APIs introduced in 10.5+ won't be available to PyObjC there? Am I correct? If so, what's the recommended solution for 10.5/10.6 users who wish to use a non-Apple Python installation and be able to access 10.5/10.6-only APIs (e.g. build your own Python framework?)? Perhaps it's time python.org started distributing framework builds for 10.5 and later? Any thoughts, advice, etc? Thanks, has -- Control AppleScriptable applications from Python, Ruby and ObjC: http://appscript.sourceforge.net From hengist.podd at virgin.net Sat Nov 28 17:08:35 2009 From: hengist.podd at virgin.net (has) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:08:35 +0000 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] can't build extensions for python.org 3.1.1 framework Message-ID: Hey, Anyone tried building extensions for python.org's prebuilt Python 3.1.1 framework on 10.6.2? After remembering to install the 10.4u SDK for Xcode 3.2.1, I'm getting a bunch of 'missing header' errors, e.g.: $ cd py-appscript $ python3 setup.py install ... building 'aem.ae' extension gcc -arch ppc -arch i386 -isysroot /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -dynamic -DNDEBUG -g -O3 -I/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.1/include/python3.1 -c appscript_3x/ext/ae.c -o build/temp.macosx-10.3-fat-3.1/appscript_3x/ext/ae.o -DMAC_OS_X_VERSION_MIN_REQUIRED=MAC_OS_X_VERSION_10_4 In file included from /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.1/include/python3.1/bytearrayobject.h:9, from /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.1/include/python3.1/Python.h:69, from appscript_3x/ext/ae.c:14: /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk/usr/include/stdarg.h:4:25: error: stdarg.h: No such file or directory ... The header files in question do exist, e.g.: $ ls -l /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk/usr/include/stdarg.h -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 234 May 4 2007 /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk/usr/include/stdarg.h Any relation to the 2.6.3 problems? Or something else? Ta, has -- Control AppleScriptable applications from Python, Ruby and ObjC: http://appscript.sourceforge.net From janssen at parc.com Sat Nov 28 21:00:26 2009 From: janssen at parc.com (Bill Janssen) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 12:00:26 PST Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] py-appscript 0.20.3, 0.21.0 and impending 1.0.0 release (addendum) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <94749.1259438426@parc.com> has wrote: > The bouncing Dock icon is gone when using appscript 0.21.0 on a version of Python that was built against 10.5 or 10.6 SDKs. (Yay!) Yay! Now I can can my private copy of Python with the LSUIElement flag set... > Perhaps it's time python.org started distributing framework builds for 10.5 and later? Seems like a good thought. Bill From nad at acm.org Sun Nov 29 03:22:39 2009 From: nad at acm.org (Ned Deily) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:22:39 -0800 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] can't build extensions for python.org 3.1.1 framework References: Message-ID: In article , has wrote: > Anyone tried building extensions for python.org's prebuilt Python 3.1.1 > framework on 10.6.2? After remembering to install the 10.4u SDK for Xcode > 3.2.1, I'm getting a bunch of 'missing header' errors, e.g.: > > $ cd py-appscript > $ python3 setup.py install > ... > building 'aem.ae' extension > gcc -arch ppc -arch i386 -isysroot /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk > -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -dynamic -DNDEBUG -g -O3 > -I/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.1/include/python3.1 -c > appscript_3x/ext/ae.c -o build/temp.macosx-10.3-fat-3.1/appscript_3x/ext/ae.o > -DMAC_OS_X_VERSION_MIN_REQUIRED=MAC_OS_X_VERSION_10_4 > In file included from > /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.1/include/python3.1/bytearrayo > bject.h:9, > from > /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.1/include/pyt > hon3.1/Python.h:69, > from appscript_3x/ext/ae.c:14: > /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk/usr/include/stdarg.h:4:25: error: stdarg.h: > No such file or directory > ... > > > The header files in question do exist, e.g.: > > $ ls -l /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk/usr/include/stdarg.h > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 234 May 4 2007 > /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk/usr/include/stdarg.h > > > Any relation to the 2.6.3 problems? Or something else? 3.1.1 was released before 10.6 and, thus, lacks the build fixes for extension builds on 10.6 (i.e. the ones that made it into 2.6.3 & 2.6.4). The main issue is you need to build with gcc-4.0. IIRC, this should work: $ export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-4.0 -- Ned Deily, nad at acm.org From aahz at pythoncraft.com Sun Nov 29 16:49:46 2009 From: aahz at pythoncraft.com (Aahz) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 07:49:46 -0800 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] py-appscript 0.20.3, 0.21.0 and impending 1.0.0 release (Re: py-appscript 0.20.3) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20091129154946.GA19005@panix.com> On Fri, Nov 27, 2009, hengist.podd e-mail wrote: > > A couple of outstanding issues/omissions have been frustrating me > recently, namely the annoying bouncing Dock icon and the inability to > control multiple instances of the same app, so I've finally dealt with > those. Could you describe your experience with those two issues (or point at something you've posted elsewhere)? I'm probably going to have to deal with related issues soon, so getting an idea of what problems I'm likely to run into would be helpful. -- Aahz (aahz at pythoncraft.com) <*> http://www.pythoncraft.com/ The best way to get information on Usenet is not to ask a question, but to post the wrong information. From hengist.podd at virgin.net Mon Nov 30 18:45:59 2009 From: hengist.podd at virgin.net (hengist.podd e-mail) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:45:59 +0000 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] py-appscript 0.20.3, 0.21.0 and impending 1.0.0 release Message-ID: Aahz wrote: >> A couple of outstanding issues/omissions have been frustrating me >> recently, namely the annoying bouncing Dock icon and the inability to >> control multiple instances of the same app, so I've finally dealt with >> those. > > Could you describe your experience with those two issues (or point at > something you've posted elsewhere)? 1. Bouncing icon issue is covered in trunk/README in svn, and is something various appscript users (including me) have groused about over the years on this and other forums. Basically, if you run an appscript-based Python script using the command-line python interpreter, the python process is automatically upgraded to a full GUI process by the OS. This results in a Python.app application appearing in user's Dock. Mostly harmless, but very annoying. I've modified 0.21.0 so that it doesn't use any 10.5+ OS calls known to trigger GUI-fication, though GUI-fication will still happen if you use a python.org framework distro as that is built against 10.4. 2. Ability to launch multiple instances of the same application is a feature I've been wanting myself (makes it easier to parallelise automation workflows), and was a cheap addition once I switched to newer APIs in order to address #1. Main caveat is that OS X apps are normally designed to run as a single instance; some will happily run in parallel, others may not work correctly/at all. (The apps I'd like to parallelise seem to fall into the former camp, which is good news for me. YMMV.) I've updated the relevant API descriptions in the aem and appscript manuals in svn, but haven't gone out of the way to show it off (no new sample scripts). Unless you build heavy-duty automation workflows, it's unlikely to be of any practical use to you. HTH has From rowen at uw.edu Mon Nov 30 21:21:07 2009 From: rowen at uw.edu (Russell E. Owen) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:21:07 -0800 Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app and pygame results in application that may not launch References: Message-ID: In article , "Russell E. Owen" wrote: > I am using py2app to bundle a standalone application (containing its own > python) that used to use tkSnack to play sound cues. I recently switched > to pygame because the sound cues were no longer paying reliably with > tkSnack. > > Before switching to pygame the Mac applications I produced seemed to run > for all my users. Now they run for some users but fail to start with > others. I have appended a crash dump from one user. > > I cannot see the problem on my own pair of Macs -- each binary runs on > either, even if I temporarily move /Library/Frameworks/Python... and > Tcl... and Tk... > > I have tried building on Leopard and on Snow Leopard and it makes no > obvious difference (though i have not compared crash logs in detail). > > Some possibly relevant details: > - It seems to be something with fonts. > - At least one user who complains uses MacPorts (but tried disabling it > and it ran). > - Sometimes the application will run once or twice, then not again. > - Once I dragged a new version of my binary over an old one (to replace > it) and MacOS X told me I could not do that because a font was in use. > > One binary is available here (built on Leopard with py2pp 0.4.3) > Mac.dmg> > > Any idea what I can do to fix this? The only relevant hit I found in a > google search was from somebody complaining about a similar problem that > struck between pygame 1.8.0 and 1.8.1. Barring any better solutions I > will try reverting to from 1.9.1 to 1.8.0. The solution was to upgrade to the latest py2app and associated software. -- Russell