From steph-info at wanadoo.fr  Thu Apr  2 09:52:26 2009
From: steph-info at wanadoo.fr (Steph-info)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 09:52:26 +0200
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] [PyObjC] setting button name in NSOpenPanel
Message-ID: <2F9231F2-A2DB-4A97-9B44-FB1685BFDF99@wanadoo.fr>

Hi,

	I have the following piece of code :

"""
	@objc.IBAction
	def chooseRec_(self, sender):
		op = NSOpenPanel.openPanel()
		op.setTitle_('Choisir un dossier')
		op.setCanChooseDirectories_(True)
		op.setCanChooseFiles_(False)
		op.setResolvesAliases_(True)
		op.setAllowsMultipleSelection_(False)
		result = op.runModalForDirectory_file_types_(None, None, None)
		if result == NSOKButton:
			self.pathRec = op.filename()
			self.pathField.setStringValue_(self.pathRec)

"""
	which open an NSOpenPanel but I can't find how to change the default  
"Open" and "Cancel" button's names.
	
	Could anybody post a line of code demonstrating how to achieve this  
task ?


		Thanks



Cordialement,

             St?phane Serra.





From njriley at uiuc.edu  Thu Apr  2 12:28:18 2009
From: njriley at uiuc.edu (Nicholas Riley)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 05:28:18 -0500
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] [PyObjC] setting button name in NSOpenPanel
In-Reply-To: <2F9231F2-A2DB-4A97-9B44-FB1685BFDF99@wanadoo.fr>
References: <2F9231F2-A2DB-4A97-9B44-FB1685BFDF99@wanadoo.fr>
Message-ID: <20090402102818.GA25200@uiuc.edu>

On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 09:52:26AM +0200, Steph-info wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 	I have the following piece of code :
> 
> """
> 	@objc.IBAction
> 	def chooseRec_(self, sender):
> 		op = NSOpenPanel.openPanel()
> 		op.setTitle_('Choisir un dossier')
> 		op.setCanChooseDirectories_(True)
> 		op.setCanChooseFiles_(False)
> 		op.setResolvesAliases_(True)
> 		op.setAllowsMultipleSelection_(False)
> 		result = op.runModalForDirectory_file_types_(None, None, 
> 		None)
> 		if result == NSOKButton:
> 			self.pathRec = op.filename()
> 			self.pathField.setStringValue_(self.pathRec)
> 
> """
> 	which open an NSOpenPanel but I can't find how to change the default 
> "Open" and "Cancel" button's names.
> 	
> 	Could anybody post a line of code demonstrating how to achieve this  
> task ?

op.setPrompt_('foo') will change Open.  Note that NSOpenPanel inherits
from NSSavePanel and a bunch of the API you might be looking for is in
NSSavePanel.

I don't believe it's possible to change 'Cancel' (beyond localizing it).

-- 
Nicholas Riley <njriley at uiuc.edu>

From steph-info at wanadoo.fr  Thu Apr  2 13:36:46 2009
From: steph-info at wanadoo.fr (Steph-info)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 13:36:46 +0200
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] [PyObjC] setting button name in NSOpenPanel
In-Reply-To: <20090402102818.GA25200@uiuc.edu>
References: <2F9231F2-A2DB-4A97-9B44-FB1685BFDF99@wanadoo.fr>
	<20090402102818.GA25200@uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <25DB19D9-006D-4119-90DE-09634C9D0F74@wanadoo.fr>


Le 2 avr. 09 ? 12:28, Nicholas Riley a ?crit :

>
> On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 09:52:26AM +0200, Steph-info wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> 	I have the following piece of code :
>>
>> """
>> 	@objc.IBAction
>> 	def chooseRec_(self, sender):
>> 		op = NSOpenPanel.openPanel()
>> 		op.setTitle_('Choisir un dossier')
>> 		op.setCanChooseDirectories_(True)
>> 		op.setCanChooseFiles_(False)
>> 		op.setResolvesAliases_(True)
>> 		op.setAllowsMultipleSelection_(False)
>> 		result = op.runModalForDirectory_file_types_(None, None,
>> 		None)
>> 		if result == NSOKButton:
>> 			self.pathRec = op.filename()
>> 			self.pathField.setStringValue_(self.pathRec)
>>
>> """
>> 	which open an NSOpenPanel but I can't find how to change the default
>> "Open" and "Cancel" button's names.
>> 	
>> 	Could anybody post a line of code demonstrating how to achieve this
>> task ?
>
> op.setPrompt_('foo') will change Open.  Note that NSOpenPanel inherits
> from NSSavePanel and a bunch of the API you might be looking for is in
> NSSavePanel.
>
> I don't believe it's possible to change 'Cancel' (beyond localizing  
> it).

Thanks Nicholas, it works for the "Open" button.

I found the following cocoa reference for the "Cancel" button :

"""
     NSSavePanel *panel = [NSSavePanel savePanel];
     NSButton* cancelButton =
         [[panel contentView]  
buttonWithTag:NSFileHandlingPanelCancelButton];
"""

Do you know how I can translate this to PyObjC ?


>
>
> -- 
> Nicholas Riley <njriley at uiuc.edu>
>
>
>


Cordialement,

             St?phane Serra.





From njriley at uiuc.edu  Thu Apr  2 14:23:03 2009
From: njriley at uiuc.edu (Nicholas Riley)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 07:23:03 -0500
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] [PyObjC] setting button name in NSOpenPanel
In-Reply-To: <25DB19D9-006D-4119-90DE-09634C9D0F74@wanadoo.fr>
References: <2F9231F2-A2DB-4A97-9B44-FB1685BFDF99@wanadoo.fr>
	<20090402102818.GA25200@uiuc.edu>
	<25DB19D9-006D-4119-90DE-09634C9D0F74@wanadoo.fr>
Message-ID: <20090402122302.GA29560@uiuc.edu>

On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 01:36:46PM +0200, Steph-info wrote:
> Thanks Nicholas, it works for the "Open" button.
> 
> I found the following cocoa reference for the "Cancel" button :
> 
> """
>     NSSavePanel *panel = [NSSavePanel savePanel];
>     NSButton* cancelButton =
>         [[panel contentView]  
> buttonWithTag:NSFileHandlingPanelCancelButton];
> """
> 
> Do you know how I can translate this to PyObjC ?

This is a hack - NSFileHandlingPanelCancelButton is 0, so trying to
match the tag like this will match all buttons with no tag assigned
(as is the default in Interface Builder).  In addition, it assumes
that the button is a direct descendant of the window's content view -
since 2002 when the code above was written, it is no longer the case,
so that code is already broken on OS X 10.5.

That said, if you really must, a better way would be to check the
control's action rather than its tag, searching through the entire
hierarchy - something like this.

  def buttons_with_action(view, action):
      for subview in view.subviews():
          if isinstance(subview, NSButton) and subview.action() == action:
              yield subview
          for i in buttons_with_action(subview, action):
              yield i
  cancelButtons = list(buttons_with_action(openPanel.contentView(), 'cancel:'))
  if len(cancelButtons) != 1:
      pass # handle error
  cancelButtons[0].setTitle_('Go Away')
  openPanel.runModalForTypes_(None)

and assuming you're going to be distributing your app, make sure you
handle the case when the button isn't there, or there are two of them,
or the button doesn't have a title, or something else weird happens in
a future OS version.

-- 
Nicholas Riley <njriley at uiuc.edu>

From dfh at forestfield.co.uk  Thu Apr  2 20:40:14 2009
From: dfh at forestfield.co.uk (David Hughes)
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 19:40:14 +0100
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app traceback with wxPython 2.8.9.2
In-Reply-To: <49C863C0.2010606@ulmcnett.com>
References: <49C863C0.2010606@ulmcnett.com>
Message-ID: <49D5068E.1060404@forestfield.co.uk>

Paul McNett wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I get a traceback running py2app with wxPython 2.8.9.2, but not with 
> wxPython 2.8.9.1. Here's the traceback:
>
> copying 
> /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/libncurses.5.dylib 
> -> 
<snip>
> ValueError: Unknown load command: 27
> > 
> /Users/pmcnett/py/sbs/shutter_studio/trunk/clients/shutter_studio/build/bdist.macosx-10.3-i386/egg/macholib/MachO.py(178)load() 
>
> (Pdb)
>
>
> Everything is the same, except the wxPython version. Any ideas?
>
> Paul
I recall getting an "Unknown load command"  message from py2app after I 
compiled the Reportlab extension *_renderPM.so* as a universal binary 
under OS X 10.5 (Leopard) and tried to include it in the app. When I 
compiled it again under 10.4 (Tiger), py2app (running under 10.5) 
accepted it without any problem. I didn't (have time to) investigate any 
further, only to note that the 10.5-built version was only 240 Kb 
compared to 560Kb for the working, 10.4-built version.

Maybe there are extensions in wxPython 2.8.9.2 built using OS X 10.5 
that were previously built using 10.4 and causing a similar problem?

Later....
     I have just rerun py2app with my original 10.5-built *_renderPM.so* 
and -apart from me using a slightly earlier version of py2app than Paul 
- it produces the  self same error word for word (see attachments). 
Could it be *_renderPM.so* itself that is causing your error Paul?

---
Regards,

David Hughes
Forestfield Software

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From Chris.Barker at noaa.gov  Thu Apr  2 23:43:38 2009
From: Chris.Barker at noaa.gov (Christopher Barker)
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 14:43:38 -0700
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app traceback with wxPython 2.8.9.2
In-Reply-To: <49D5068E.1060404@forestfield.co.uk>
References: <49C863C0.2010606@ulmcnett.com>
	<49D5068E.1060404@forestfield.co.uk>
Message-ID: <49D5318A.3040702@noaa.gov>

> Paul McNett wrote:
>> I get a traceback running py2app with wxPython 2.8.9.2, but not with 
>> wxPython 2.8.9.1. Here's the traceback:
>>
>> copying 
>> /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/libncurses.5.dylib 
>> -> 
> <snip>
>> ValueError: Unknown load command: 27

Are you using the latest py2app and macholib?

$ easy_install macholib==dev


-Chris





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From warren_rekow at speedyquick.net  Fri Apr  3 02:36:27 2009
From: warren_rekow at speedyquick.net (Rekow Warren)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 18:36:27 -0600
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] using the "PyUSB" module
Message-ID: <91226C01-DFF5-44C5-826B-1190A3A06B89@speedyquick.net>

I am a new MacPython (ver 2.6.1) user who has downloaded the "PyUSB"  
module, but am unclear about how to make it available for use in a  
program. Included among the downloaded files is 'setup.py' (and  
'setup.pyc'). Running 'setup.py' via IDLE yields the following error  
msg:
---
Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/Applications/Python 2.6/pyusb-0.4.1/setup.py", line 62, in  
<module>
     ext_modules = [usbmodule])
   File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/ 
python2.6/distutils/core.py", line 140, in setup
     raise SystemExit, gen_usage(dist.script_name) + "\nerror: %s" % msg
SystemExit: usage: setup.py [global_opts] cmd1 [cmd1_opts] [cmd2  
[cmd2_opts] ...]
    or: setup.py --help [cmd1 cmd2 ...]
    or: setup.py --help-commands
    or: setup.py cmd --help

error: no commands supplied
---
It seemed that 'setup.py' should be run in order to access functions  
in the PyUSB module, but perhaps I misunderstand the process. It  
would be appreciated if someone could suggest a related reference to  
read.
Thanks, Warren

From pythonmac at rebertia.com  Fri Apr  3 03:06:16 2009
From: pythonmac at rebertia.com (Chris Rebert)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 18:06:16 -0700
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] using the "PyUSB" module
In-Reply-To: <91226C01-DFF5-44C5-826B-1190A3A06B89@speedyquick.net>
References: <91226C01-DFF5-44C5-826B-1190A3A06B89@speedyquick.net>
Message-ID: <50697b2c0904021806j63e4a66ayf24f2aa8926efbe9@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Rekow Warren
<warren_rekow at speedyquick.net> wrote:
> I am a new MacPython (ver 2.6.1) user who has downloaded the "PyUSB" module,
> but am unclear about how to make it available for use in a program. Included
> among the downloaded files is 'setup.py' (and 'setup.pyc'). Running
> 'setup.py' via IDLE yields the following error msg:
> ---
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> ?File "/Applications/Python 2.6/pyusb-0.4.1/setup.py", line 62, in <module>
> ? ?ext_modules = [usbmodule])
> ?File
> "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/python2.6/distutils/core.py",
> line 140, in setup
> ? ?raise SystemExit, gen_usage(dist.script_name) + "\nerror: %s" % msg
> SystemExit: usage: setup.py [global_opts] cmd1 [cmd1_opts] [cmd2 [cmd2_opts]
> ...]
> ? or: setup.py --help [cmd1 cmd2 ...]
> ? or: setup.py --help-commands
> ? or: setup.py cmd --help
>
> error: no commands supplied
> ---
> It seemed that 'setup.py' should be run in order to access functions in the
> PyUSB module, but perhaps I misunderstand the process. It would be
> appreciated if someone could suggest a related reference to read.

Use the command suggested in the error message:
setup.py --help-commands

You have to give setup.py a command argument; it cannot be run without
any arguments. That command should give you a list and explanation
from which you can figure out which command you want.

Cheers,
Chris

-- 
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http://blog.rebertia.com

From dfh at forestfield.co.uk  Fri Apr  3 13:09:20 2009
From: dfh at forestfield.co.uk (David Hughes)
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 12:09:20 +0100
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app traceback with wxPython 2.8.9.2
In-Reply-To: <49D5318A.3040702@noaa.gov>
References: <49C863C0.2010606@ulmcnett.com>	<49D5068E.1060404@forestfield.co.uk>
	<49D5318A.3040702@noaa.gov>
Message-ID: <49D5EE60.9060508@forestfield.co.uk>

Christopher Barker wrote:
>> Paul McNett wrote:
>>> I get a traceback running py2app with wxPython 2.8.9.2, but not with 
>>> wxPython 2.8.9.1. Here's the traceback:
>>>
>>> copying 
>>> /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/libncurses.5.dylib 
>>> -> 
>> <snip>
>>> ValueError: Unknown load command: 27
>
> Are you using the latest py2app and macholib?
>
> $ easy_install macholib==dev
Updating macholib has fixed the problem for me. Thanks, Chris.

--
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From Chris.Barker at noaa.gov  Fri Apr  3 19:24:46 2009
From: Chris.Barker at noaa.gov (Christopher Barker)
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 10:24:46 -0700
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] using the "PyUSB" module
In-Reply-To: <50697b2c0904021806j63e4a66ayf24f2aa8926efbe9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <91226C01-DFF5-44C5-826B-1190A3A06B89@speedyquick.net>
	<50697b2c0904021806j63e4a66ayf24f2aa8926efbe9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49D6465E.4020404@noaa.gov>



Chris Rebert wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Rekow Warren
> <warren_rekow at speedyquick.net> wrote:
>> I am a new MacPython (ver 2.6.1) user who has downloaded the "PyUSB" module,
>> but am unclear about how to make it available for use in a program. Included
>> among the downloaded files is 'setup.py' (and 'setup.pyc'). Running

> You have to give setup.py a command argument; it cannot be run without
> any arguments. That command should give you a list and explanation
> from which you can figure out which command you want.

Chances are, it is:

$ python setup.py install


-Chris


From jbeeland at rhythm.com  Mon Apr  6 20:26:52 2009
From: jbeeland at rhythm.com (Jeffery Beeland)
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 11:26:52 -0700
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] mactypes Alias/File object question
Message-ID: <49DA496C.7060308@rhythm.com>

Hey gang,

New to the list and mostly a Perl developer, so please excuse my lack of 
knowledge at this point. ;)

I'm using appscript to interface with Photoshop, which has gone pretty 
well to this point.  The problem is that I can't seem to find a way to 
get a posix path out of an Alias or File object from mactypes.  As best 
I can tell there are no public methods for the classes.  This becomes a 
problem when I want to query a list of open documents and expect to be 
able to get at the actual file path for something like display of file 
information in a UI component.

I'd really hate to have to parse the file path out of the stringified 
object.  I would greatly appreciate any advice any of you might have.

--Jeff

-- 

____________________________

J e f f e r y  B e e l a n d
      Lead Pipeline TD
   Rhythm + Hues  Studios
    jbeeland at rhythm.com
____________________________

Excercision sounds like something you'd do to a zombie Richard Simmons.



From njriley at uiuc.edu  Mon Apr  6 21:13:38 2009
From: njriley at uiuc.edu (Nicholas Riley)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 14:13:38 -0500
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] mactypes Alias/File object question
In-Reply-To: <49DA496C.7060308@rhythm.com>
References: <49DA496C.7060308@rhythm.com>
Message-ID: <20090406191338.GA16276@uiuc.edu>

On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 11:26:52AM -0700, Jeffery Beeland wrote:
> I'm using appscript to interface with Photoshop, which has gone pretty 
> well to this point.  The problem is that I can't seem to find a way to 
> get a posix path out of an Alias or File object from mactypes.  As best 
> I can tell there are no public methods for the classes.  This becomes a 
> problem when I want to query a list of open documents and expect to be 
> able to get at the actual file path for something like display of file 
> information in a UI component.

No public methods, but a public property (path) will give you what you
want.

    <http://appscript.sourceforge.net/py-appscript/doc/mactypes/>

-- 
Nicholas Riley <njriley at uiuc.edu>

From jbeeland at rhythm.com  Mon Apr  6 23:02:33 2009
From: jbeeland at rhythm.com (Jeffery Beeland)
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 14:02:33 -0700
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] mactypes Alias/File object question
In-Reply-To: <20090406191338.GA16276@uiuc.edu>
References: <49DA496C.7060308@rhythm.com> <20090406191338.GA16276@uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <49DA6DE9.9070208@rhythm.com>

That seems to be the case.  Thanks for the help. :)

--Jeff



Nicholas Riley wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 11:26:52AM -0700, Jeffery Beeland wrote:
>   
>> I'm using appscript to interface with Photoshop, which has gone pretty 
>> well to this point.  The problem is that I can't seem to find a way to 
>> get a posix path out of an Alias or File object from mactypes.  As best 
>> I can tell there are no public methods for the classes.  This becomes a 
>> problem when I want to query a list of open documents and expect to be 
>> able to get at the actual file path for something like display of file 
>> information in a UI component.
>>     
>
> No public methods, but a public property (path) will give you what you
> want.
>
>     <http://appscript.sourceforge.net/py-appscript/doc/mactypes/>
>
>   

-- 

____________________________

J e f f e r y  B e e l a n d
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   Rhythm + Hues  Studios
    jbeeland at rhythm.com
____________________________

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From warren_rekow at speedyquick.net  Tue Apr  7 05:07:28 2009
From: warren_rekow at speedyquick.net (Rekow Warren)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 21:07:28 -0600
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] using the "PyUSB" module
In-Reply-To: <49D6465E.4020404@noaa.gov>
References: <91226C01-DFF5-44C5-826B-1190A3A06B89@speedyquick.net>
	<50697b2c0904021806j63e4a66ayf24f2aa8926efbe9@mail.gmail.com>
	<49D6465E.4020404@noaa.gov>
Message-ID: <8BEAB2C5-FCD7-43B4-953B-647D42B5E90C@speedyquick.net>

Chris and Kevin, thanks for the feedback.
I did this...

DualG4-2:~ rekow$ python /Applications/pyusb-0.4.1/setup.py install

...and got this result...

running install
running build
running build_ext
building 'usb' extension
Compiling with an SDK that doesn't seem to exist: /Developer/SDKs/ 
MacOSX10.4u.sdk
Please check your Xcode installation
...

Under /Developer/SDKs/ there is no "MacOSX10.4u.sdk", but there is a  
"MacOSX10.4.0.sdk" folder.
Have any idea how to fix this?
Warren


On Apr 3, 2009, at 11:24 AM, Christopher Barker wrote:

Chris Rebert wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Rekow Warren
> <warren_rekow at speedyquick.net> wrote:
>> I am a new MacPython (ver 2.6.1) user who has downloaded the  
>> "PyUSB" module,
>> but am unclear about how to make it available for use in a  
>> program. Included
>> among the downloaded files is 'setup.py' (and 'setup.pyc'). Running

> You have to give setup.py a command argument; it cannot be run without
> any arguments. That command should give you a list and explanation
> from which you can figure out which command you want.

Chances are, it is:

$ python setup.py install

-Chris


From Chris.Barker at noaa.gov  Tue Apr  7 05:37:43 2009
From: Chris.Barker at noaa.gov (Christopher Barker)
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 20:37:43 -0700
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] using the "PyUSB" module
In-Reply-To: <8BEAB2C5-FCD7-43B4-953B-647D42B5E90C@speedyquick.net>
References: <91226C01-DFF5-44C5-826B-1190A3A06B89@speedyquick.net>
	<50697b2c0904021806j63e4a66ayf24f2aa8926efbe9@mail.gmail.com>
	<49D6465E.4020404@noaa.gov>
	<8BEAB2C5-FCD7-43B4-953B-647D42B5E90C@speedyquick.net>
Message-ID: <49DACA87.5050606@noaa.gov>

Rekow Warren wrote:
> Compiling with an SDK that doesn't seem to exist: 
> /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk
> Please check your Xcode installation
> ...
> 
> Under /Developer/SDKs/ there is no "MacOSX10.4u.sdk", but there is a 
> "MacOSX10.4.0.sdk" folder.
> Have any idea how to fix this?

that is the SDKfor "universal" binaries -- PPC and Intel. It is the SDK 
that the python.org binary is built with. I know i have it, but I can't 
tell you where I got it. It probably came with the XCode Tools massive 
download -- you may need to re-install that, making sure you include all 
the optional packages.

You could also try googling to see of you can find a download of just 
the SDK, but I have no idea if you cant do that.

-Chris

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From ronaldoussoren at mac.com  Tue Apr  7 10:59:09 2009
From: ronaldoussoren at mac.com (Ronald Oussoren)
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 10:59:09 +0200
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] using the "PyUSB" module
In-Reply-To: <8BEAB2C5-FCD7-43B4-953B-647D42B5E90C@speedyquick.net>
References: <91226C01-DFF5-44C5-826B-1190A3A06B89@speedyquick.net>
	<50697b2c0904021806j63e4a66ayf24f2aa8926efbe9@mail.gmail.com>
	<49D6465E.4020404@noaa.gov>
	<8BEAB2C5-FCD7-43B4-953B-647D42B5E90C@speedyquick.net>
Message-ID: <718E5F77-848E-4645-9AC5-B98253E670B7@mac.com>


On 7 Apr, 2009, at 5:07, Rekow Warren wrote:

> Chris and Kevin, thanks for the feedback.
> I did this...
>
> DualG4-2:~ rekow$ python /Applications/pyusb-0.4.1/setup.py install
>
> ...and got this result...
>
> running install
> running build
> running build_ext
> building 'usb' extension
> Compiling with an SDK that doesn't seem to exist: /Developer/SDKs/ 
> MacOSX10.4u.sdk
> Please check your Xcode installation
> ...
>
> Under /Developer/SDKs/ there is no "MacOSX10.4u.sdk", but there is a  
> "MacOSX10.4.0.sdk" folder.
> Have any idea how to fix this?

Which version of OSX are you running? MacOSX10.4u.sdk is a component  
of the developer tools, as Chris noted. You may have to download a  
newer version of Xcode from developer.apple.com when you're running  
OSX 10.4, the version of Xcode that's included with OSX 10.5 ships  
with the 10.4u SDK.

Ronald

Ronald
> Warren
>
>
> On Apr 3, 2009, at 11:24 AM, Christopher Barker wrote:
>
> Chris Rebert wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Rekow Warren
>> <warren_rekow at speedyquick.net> wrote:
>>> I am a new MacPython (ver 2.6.1) user who has downloaded the  
>>> "PyUSB" module,
>>> but am unclear about how to make it available for use in a  
>>> program. Included
>>> among the downloaded files is 'setup.py' (and 'setup.pyc'). Running
>
>> You have to give setup.py a command argument; it cannot be run  
>> without
>> any arguments. That command should give you a list and explanation
>> from which you can figure out which command you want.
>
> Chances are, it is:
>
> $ python setup.py install
>
> -Chris
>
> _______________________________________________
> Pythonmac-SIG maillist  -  Pythonmac-SIG at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

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From strawman at astraw.com  Tue Apr  7 19:48:32 2009
From: strawman at astraw.com (Andrew Straw)
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 10:48:32 -0700
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] using the "PyUSB" module
In-Reply-To: <8BEAB2C5-FCD7-43B4-953B-647D42B5E90C@speedyquick.net>
References: <91226C01-DFF5-44C5-826B-1190A3A06B89@speedyquick.net>	<50697b2c0904021806j63e4a66ayf24f2aa8926efbe9@mail.gmail.com>	<49D6465E.4020404@noaa.gov>
	<8BEAB2C5-FCD7-43B4-953B-647D42B5E90C@speedyquick.net>
Message-ID: <49DB91F0.4010903@astraw.com>

I have done a terrible job advertising and documenting this, but I have
a ctypes based wrapper of libusb which therefore does not require Xcode
to be installed:

https://code.astraw.com/projects/pylibusb

Perhaps it suits your needs?

-Andrew

Rekow Warren wrote:
> Chris and Kevin, thanks for the feedback.
> I did this...
> 
> DualG4-2:~ rekow$ python /Applications/pyusb-0.4.1/setup.py install
> 
> ...and got this result...
> 
> running install
> running build
> running build_ext
> building 'usb' extension
> Compiling with an SDK that doesn't seem to exist:
> /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk
> Please check your Xcode installation
> ...
> 
> Under /Developer/SDKs/ there is no "MacOSX10.4u.sdk", but there is a
> "MacOSX10.4.0.sdk" folder.
> Have any idea how to fix this?
> Warren
> 
> 
> On Apr 3, 2009, at 11:24 AM, Christopher Barker wrote:
> 
> Chris Rebert wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Rekow Warren
>> <warren_rekow at speedyquick.net> wrote:
>>> I am a new MacPython (ver 2.6.1) user who has downloaded the "PyUSB"
>>> module,
>>> but am unclear about how to make it available for use in a program.
>>> Included
>>> among the downloaded files is 'setup.py' (and 'setup.pyc'). Running
> 
>> You have to give setup.py a command argument; it cannot be run without
>> any arguments. That command should give you a list and explanation
>> from which you can figure out which command you want.
> 
> Chances are, it is:
> 
> $ python setup.py install
> 
> -Chris
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Pythonmac-SIG maillist  -  Pythonmac-SIG at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig


From gmlobdell at seanet.com  Thu Apr  9 00:52:20 2009
From: gmlobdell at seanet.com (Gregg Lobdell)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 15:52:20 -0700
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Using Python with Emacs
Message-ID: <15717858-ADD8-4E90-847F-6403BBB66C77@seanet.com>

How do I get Emacs to start the latest version of Python?

I'm using "GNU Emacs 22.0.50.1 (powerpc-apple-darwin8.2.0) of  
2005-08-06 on quartet.local" (as reported by M-x emacs-verion) on a  
PowerPC G5 running Mac OS X version 10.4.11 (yes I know I'm not  
running 10.5)

The default Python version that came installed with 10.4 is Python  
2.3.5 (#1, Jan 12 2009, 14:43:55), and I'd like to run Python 3.0.   
How can I convince Emacs to run 3.0 instead of the default 2.3?  I've  
tried setting PYTHONPATH in my .cshrc, .login, and .emacs.  My .cshrc  
adds /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.0/bin to the  
PATH, but (getenv "PATH") in emacs returns "/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/ 
sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin"

I can get it to start python 3.0 if, in python.el, I set python- 
python-command to "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.0/ 
bin/python".  But this seems like a kludge, to have to set the full  
path.  There must be a better way.

After I did get python 3.0 to start, then I had to fix a bunch of  
stuff in emacs.py, mostly parens for print commands and converting  
tabs in the indentation to 8 spaces.

Gregg Lobdell
gmlobdell at seanet.com



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From janssen at parc.com  Thu Apr  9 02:12:45 2009
From: janssen at parc.com (Bill Janssen)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:12:45 PDT
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Using Python with Emacs
In-Reply-To: <15717858-ADD8-4E90-847F-6403BBB66C77@seanet.com>
References: <15717858-ADD8-4E90-847F-6403BBB66C77@seanet.com>
Message-ID: <59369.1239235965@parc.com>

Gregg Lobdell <gmlobdell at seanet.com> wrote:

> I can get it to start python 3.0 if, in python.el, I set python-
> python-command to "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.0/
> bin/python".  But this seems like a kludge, to have to set the full
> path.  There must be a better way.

This is really a python-list question.  But I set py-python-command
in my .emacs file.  And the full path is indeed the way to go.

Bill

From stuart.davenport at gmail.com  Sat Apr 11 19:38:59 2009
From: stuart.davenport at gmail.com (Stuart Davenport)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:38:59 +0100
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Virtual Serial/USB Port
Message-ID: <b4b632f50904111038g26266c83qece0b337d62ad2fa@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,
I am trying to write a python program to "emulate" a USB GPS device on my
Mac, is there anyway this is possible via Python?

Basically I have something running over the network to tell my Mac its GPS
location. The application I have running is listening to the data from the
network and then I want that data be pushed onto a "virtual" USB GPS device.
The data I will send out of it will be the standard NMEA data for any
navigation software on a Mac (e.g. RouteBuddy) to read.

Would anyone know how to create this "virtual port" through python?

Thanks
Stu
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From msanders42 at gmail.com  Sat Apr 11 21:26:53 2009
From: msanders42 at gmail.com (Michael Sanders)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 15:26:53 -0400
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Problem with py2app and pygame on OS X Leopard
	(10.5.6)
In-Reply-To: <cfd8bcc40904111222h67b5db89xc75dc2a8d84ae1ee@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cfd8bcc40904111222h67b5db89xc75dc2a8d84ae1ee@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <cfd8bcc40904111226q526be9ediba6696425e761764@mail.gmail.com>

I can't seem to get py2app to work with pygame. I'm testing by just trying
to compile a simple hello world app:  .

> '''A simple app that displays "Hello, world!" the title bar of its
> window.'''

import pygame


> quit = False

pygame.init()

screen = pygame.display.set_mode((640, 480))

pygame.display.set_caption('Hello, world!')


> while not quit:

pygame.event.pump()

for event in [pygame.event.wait()] + pygame.event.get():

if event.type == pygame.QUIT: quit = True


I ran py2applet --make-setup hello_world.py to make the setup.py, and it
looks like this:

"""

 This is a setup.py script generated by py2applet


> Usage:

    python setup.py py2app

"""


> from setuptools import setup


>  APP = ['hello_world.py']

DATA_FILES = []

OPTIONS = {'argv_emulation': True}


setup(

    app=APP,

    data_files=DATA_FILES,

    options={'py2app': OPTIONS},

     setup_requires=['py2app'],

)


Running "python setup.py py2app" now seems to work fine with no errors,
however, when I run the app I get this error message:

hello_world Error

"An unexpected error has occured during execution of the main script



ImportError: PyObjC 1.2 or later is required to use pygame on Mac OS X.
> http://pygame.org/wiki/PyObjC




(Leopard comes with PyObjC 2.0 and I haven't uninstalled it.)

If I run "python setup.py py2app -A", I get:

hello_world Error

"An unexpected error has occured during execution of the main script



ImportError: No module named pygame


Any ideas on how to fix this? This app runs fine on my machine by running
"python hello_world.py", and py2app seems to work with another test app I
tried using pyglet.
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From khorton01 at rogers.com  Sat Apr 11 22:59:53 2009
From: khorton01 at rogers.com (Kevin Horton)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 16:59:53 -0400
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Virtual Serial/USB Port
In-Reply-To: <b4b632f50904111038g26266c83qece0b337d62ad2fa@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b4b632f50904111038g26266c83qece0b337d62ad2fa@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9D8A246C-435D-4F89-A203-6B4CB5BEEAA0@rogers.com>

On 11 Apr 2009, at 13:38, Stuart Davenport wrote:

> I am trying to write a python program to "emulate" a USB GPS device  
> on my Mac, is there anyway this is possible via Python?
>
> Basically I have something running over the network to tell my Mac  
> its GPS location. The application I have running is listening to the  
> data from the network and then I want that data be pushed onto a  
> "virtual" USB GPS device. The data I will send out of it will be the  
> standard NMEA data for any navigation software on a Mac (e.g.  
> RouteBuddy) to read.
>
> Would anyone know how to create this "virtual port" through python?


I'm not sure I completely understand what you want to achieve, but it  
might be worth looking at the python code in the gpsd package of  
programs.  One of those programs, possibly gpsfake, may either do what  
you want, or at least give some good ideas.

http://gpsd.berlios.de/
http://gpsd.berlios.de/gpsfake.html

--
Kevin Horton
Ottawa, Canada



From dhain+pythonmac at zognot.org  Sun Apr 12 21:18:09 2009
From: dhain+pythonmac at zognot.org (David Hain)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 12:18:09 -0700
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Getting None in KVC objectInKeyAtIndex_
Message-ID: <9E58C502-C54A-4A54-B473-0E4BE92DDAC0@zognot.org>

I'm trying to use bindings to hook up my model to an NSOutlineView,  
and I'm attempting to use the countOf<Key>, objectIn<Key>AtIndex_  
methods to do the KVC half. The problem I'm running into is that I'm  
getting None for the index argument, and I can't figure out what to do  
with that. The reference materials[1] say that the method corresponds  
to the NSArray objectAtIndex: method, which takes an NSUInteger, but  
doesn't mention anything about null or nil or whatever it is in objc- 
land.

So the question is, is the view supposed to be giving me None for that  
argument, or did I hook something up in IB (or elsewhere) incorrectly?  
If None is expected, then how am I supposed to interpret that? What  
should I return?

Here's a paraphrase of my model:

class Node(NSObject):
     ...

     def countOfChildren(self):
         return len(self.children)

     def objectInChildrenAtIndex_(self, index):
         return self.children[index]

If other information or code would be helpful, I'd be happy to provide  
it. Thanks!

-David


[1]: http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/KeyValueCoding/Concepts/AccessorConventions.html


From johan.rydberg at gmail.com  Mon Apr 13 11:10:10 2009
From: johan.rydberg at gmail.com (Johan Rydberg)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 11:10:10 +0200
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Getting None in KVC objectInKeyAtIndex_
In-Reply-To: <9E58C502-C54A-4A54-B473-0E4BE92DDAC0@zognot.org>
References: <9E58C502-C54A-4A54-B473-0E4BE92DDAC0@zognot.org>
Message-ID: <49E30172.30203@gmail.com>

David Hain skrev:
> I'm trying to use bindings to hook up my model to an NSOutlineView, and 
> I'm attempting to use the countOf<Key>, objectIn<Key>AtIndex_ methods to 
> do the KVC half. The problem I'm running into is that I'm getting None 
> for the index argument, and I can't figure out what to do with that. The 
> reference materials[1] say that the method corresponds to the NSArray 
> objectAtIndex: method, which takes an NSUInteger, but doesn't mention 
> anything about null or nil or whatever it is in objc-land.

Maybe this will help you:

http://jimmatthews.wordpress.com/2007/07/12/objcselector-and-objcsignature/


From dhain+pythonmac at zognot.org  Mon Apr 13 19:00:30 2009
From: dhain+pythonmac at zognot.org (David Hain)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 10:00:30 -0700
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Getting None in KVC objectInKeyAtIndex_
In-Reply-To: <49E30172.30203@gmail.com>
References: <9E58C502-C54A-4A54-B473-0E4BE92DDAC0@zognot.org>
	<49E30172.30203@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <852A7FCB-DE70-4971-B547-B09AD3B20399@zognot.org>

On Apr 13, 2009, at 2:10 AM, Johan Rydberg wrote:

> http://jimmatthews.wordpress.com/2007/07/12/objcselector-and-objcsignature/

Yes! That was exactly what I needed. I had actually thought that  
pyobjc could be interpreting a zero as nil, and did something like:

if index is None:
     index = 0

but then the program crashed with a Bus Error. I now assume that is  
because the bridge didn't know what to expect my method to return.  
With the signature line, I've told it to expect an object, so it works  
flawlessly!

Thanks for the help!
-David


From ronaldoussoren at mac.com  Tue Apr 14 09:44:29 2009
From: ronaldoussoren at mac.com (Ronald Oussoren)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 09:44:29 +0200
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Getting None in KVC objectInKeyAtIndex_
In-Reply-To: <852A7FCB-DE70-4971-B547-B09AD3B20399@zognot.org>
References: <9E58C502-C54A-4A54-B473-0E4BE92DDAC0@zognot.org>
	<49E30172.30203@gmail.com>
	<852A7FCB-DE70-4971-B547-B09AD3B20399@zognot.org>
Message-ID: <50CAD33C-6BA2-4E1C-B245-AB506D7FD79E@mac.com>

A better way to define such accessors is like so:

     @objc.accessor
     def objectInFooAtIndex_(self, index):
        pass

This should deduce the right method signature based on the method  
name. I guess this needs better documentation :-(

Ronald

On 13 Apr, 2009, at 19:00, David Hain wrote:

> On Apr 13, 2009, at 2:10 AM, Johan Rydberg wrote:
>
>> http://jimmatthews.wordpress.com/2007/07/12/objcselector-and-objcsignature/
>
> Yes! That was exactly what I needed. I had actually thought that  
> pyobjc could be interpreting a zero as nil, and did something like:
>
> if index is None:
>    index = 0
>
> but then the program crashed with a Bus Error. I now assume that is  
> because the bridge didn't know what to expect my method to return.  
> With the signature line, I've told it to expect an object, so it  
> works flawlessly!
>
> Thanks for the help!
> -David
>
> _______________________________________________
> Pythonmac-SIG maillist  -  Pythonmac-SIG at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

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From dickinsm at gmail.com  Tue Apr 14 19:14:20 2009
From: dickinsm at gmail.com (Mark Dickinson)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:14:20 +0100
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Official 'right way' to create a universal build of
	Python?
Message-ID: <5c6f2a5d0904141014t6f171996x1847ca518e175d97@mail.gmail.com>

This question has probably been asked and answered before,
but I've failed to find anything in the archives.

What's the 'correct' way to create a universal build of Python?

Specifically, I have two machines:

(1) a Macbook Pro (Core 2 Duo) running OS X 10.5, and
(2) an iBook G4 running OS X 10.4.

and a fresh checkout of the py3k branch from svn.python.org.

I have a fairly limited goal:  I want to create a universal
(32-bit Intel/32-bit PPC) build on the 10.5/Intel machine,
transfer it to the 10.4/PPC machine and then run the
testsuite.  (This has to do with making sure that
a planned checkin is compatible with universal builds;
see the (long) thread at

http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2009-April/088417.html

).

What are the commands that I should execute on the
Macbook?

I tried:

./configure --with-universal-archs=32-bit --enable-framework
--enable-universalsdk=/ MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET=10.4 && make

This seems to give me the right thing:

Macintosh-4:py3k-short-float-repr dickinsm$ file python.exe
python.exe: Mach-O universal binary with 2 architectures
python.exe (for architecture ppc):	Mach-O executable ppc
python.exe (for architecture i386):	Mach-O executable i386

Having done this, how do I package things up to transfer
them to the iBook?  What files need to be transferred?

Mark

From skip at pobox.com  Tue Apr 14 19:27:48 2009
From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:27:48 -0500
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Official 'right way' to create a universal
 build of Python?
In-Reply-To: <5c6f2a5d0904141014t6f171996x1847ca518e175d97@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5c6f2a5d0904141014t6f171996x1847ca518e175d97@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <18916.51092.618555.977827@montanaro.dyndns.org>


    Mark> Having done this, how do I package things up to transfer them to
    Mark> the iBook?  What files need to be transferred?

If this is a one-time thing I would use brute force and tar up the entire
source directory and put it over on your g4.

Skip


From ronaldoussoren at mac.com  Tue Apr 14 20:36:13 2009
From: ronaldoussoren at mac.com (Ronald Oussoren)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 20:36:13 +0200
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Official 'right way' to create a universal
 build of Python?
In-Reply-To: <5c6f2a5d0904141014t6f171996x1847ca518e175d97@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5c6f2a5d0904141014t6f171996x1847ca518e175d97@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <93214C4F-998B-41AC-896B-D4BEAEC3EDC2@mac.com>

Mark,

If you're only testing I'd lose the --enable-framework bit and create  
a regular unix install. That way you won't mess up any regular python  
install's you have (such as Python.org binary install), and you can  
just copy the sys.prefix to the other machine.

Ronald

On 14 Apr, 2009, at 19:14, Mark Dickinson wrote:

> This question has probably been asked and answered before,
> but I've failed to find anything in the archives.
>
> What's the 'correct' way to create a universal build of Python?
>
> Specifically, I have two machines:
>
> (1) a Macbook Pro (Core 2 Duo) running OS X 10.5, and
> (2) an iBook G4 running OS X 10.4.
>
> and a fresh checkout of the py3k branch from svn.python.org.
>
> I have a fairly limited goal:  I want to create a universal
> (32-bit Intel/32-bit PPC) build on the 10.5/Intel machine,
> transfer it to the 10.4/PPC machine and then run the
> testsuite.  (This has to do with making sure that
> a planned checkin is compatible with universal builds;
> see the (long) thread at
>
> http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2009-April/088417.html
>
> ).
>
> What are the commands that I should execute on the
> Macbook?
>
> I tried:
>
> ./configure --with-universal-archs=32-bit --enable-framework
> --enable-universalsdk=/ MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET=10.4 && make
>
> This seems to give me the right thing:
>
> Macintosh-4:py3k-short-float-repr dickinsm$ file python.exe
> python.exe: Mach-O universal binary with 2 architectures
> python.exe (for architecture ppc):	Mach-O executable ppc
> python.exe (for architecture i386):	Mach-O executable i386
>
> Having done this, how do I package things up to transfer
> them to the iBook?  What files need to be transferred?
>
> Mark
> _______________________________________________
> Pythonmac-SIG maillist  -  Pythonmac-SIG at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

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From dickinsm at gmail.com  Wed Apr 15 00:08:31 2009
From: dickinsm at gmail.com (Mark Dickinson)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 23:08:31 +0100
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Official 'right way' to create a universal
	build of Python?
In-Reply-To: <93214C4F-998B-41AC-896B-D4BEAEC3EDC2@mac.com>
References: <5c6f2a5d0904141014t6f171996x1847ca518e175d97@mail.gmail.com>
	<93214C4F-998B-41AC-896B-D4BEAEC3EDC2@mac.com>
Message-ID: <5c6f2a5d0904141508s3eb488fbg5703f44ee64d86f3@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you, Skip and Ronald.  Together with Ned's information from the python-dev
thread, I managed to build a non-framework universal build on Intel, transfer
a tarball to PPC and get it to run the testsuite.

For future reference, the steps that worked were:

export MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET=10.3
./configure --enable-universalsdk=/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk
--with-universal-archs='32-bit' && make

Mark

From johan.rydberg at gmail.com  Mon Apr 13 11:10:10 2009
From: johan.rydberg at gmail.com (Johan Rydberg)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 11:10:10 +0200
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Getting None in KVC objectInKeyAtIndex_
In-Reply-To: <9E58C502-C54A-4A54-B473-0E4BE92DDAC0@zognot.org>
References: <9E58C502-C54A-4A54-B473-0E4BE92DDAC0@zognot.org>
Message-ID: <49E30172.30203@gmail.com>

David Hain skrev:
> I'm trying to use bindings to hook up my model to an NSOutlineView, and 
> I'm attempting to use the countOf<Key>, objectIn<Key>AtIndex_ methods to 
> do the KVC half. The problem I'm running into is that I'm getting None 
> for the index argument, and I can't figure out what to do with that. The 
> reference materials[1] say that the method corresponds to the NSArray 
> objectAtIndex: method, which takes an NSUInteger, but doesn't mention 
> anything about null or nil or whatever it is in objc-land.

Maybe this will help you:

http://jimmatthews.wordpress.com/2007/07/12/objcselector-and-objcsignature/

From shane.clements at gmail.com  Wed Apr 15 09:23:10 2009
From: shane.clements at gmail.com (Shane Clements)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 01:23:10 -0600
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app path question
Message-ID: <1101ea550904150023p4646045am699753de76e980ca@mail.gmail.com>

Hi.

Looking for advice about p2app and paths during the bundling process.

The application I am working with works fine finding the paths before being
bundled with py2app but after has mangled ones.

An example error:

IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory:
'/Users/Shane/UTc!/client/dist/client.app/Contents/Resources//Users/Shane/UTc!/client/dist/client.app/Contents/Resources/assets/objects/ships.xml'

What is looks like is py2app is making aliases perhaps...?

Is there a way to avoid this?

Thanks,

Shane
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From ronaldoussoren at mac.com  Wed Apr 15 09:29:01 2009
From: ronaldoussoren at mac.com (Ronald Oussoren)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 09:29:01 +0200
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app path question
In-Reply-To: <1101ea550904150023p4646045am699753de76e980ca@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1101ea550904150023p4646045am699753de76e980ca@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <109691277942951558423087754687446035149-Webmail@me.com>

 
On Wednesday, April 15, 2009, at 09:23AM, "Shane Clements" <shane.clements at gmail.com> wrote:
>Hi.
>
>Looking for advice about p2app and paths during the bundling process.
>
>The application I am working with works fine finding the paths before being
>bundled with py2app but after has mangled ones.

That's odd. Can you reproduce the problem in a small program?

Ronald


From shane.clements at gmail.com  Wed Apr 15 10:39:20 2009
From: shane.clements at gmail.com (Shane Clements)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 02:39:20 -0600
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app path question
In-Reply-To: <109691277942951558423087754687446035149-Webmail@me.com>
References: <1101ea550904150023p4646045am699753de76e980ca@mail.gmail.com>
	<109691277942951558423087754687446035149-Webmail@me.com>
Message-ID: <1101ea550904150139l4e6c1654l6ea2af98491a88ca@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 1:29 AM, Ronald Oussoren <ronaldoussoren at mac.com>wrote:

>
> On Wednesday, April 15, 2009, at 09:23AM, "Shane Clements" <
> shane.clements at gmail.com> wrote:
> >Hi.
> >
> >Looking for advice about p2app and paths during the bundling process.
> >
> >The application I am working with works fine finding the paths before
> being
> >bundled with py2app but after has mangled ones.
>
> That's odd. Can you reproduce the problem in a small program?
>
> Ronald
>
>
Hi.

Thanks for your response. I think that I just need to rethink my
pathfinding.

It's interesting that the filename has no path before bundling, then the
whole path after because .app is relocatable I'm probably just discovering
the obvious: the program needs it's whole path.

Thanks,

Shane
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From beegee63 at gmail.com  Wed Apr 15 20:38:36 2009
From: beegee63 at gmail.com (beegee beegee)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 00:08:36 +0530
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Unable to run python application
Message-ID: <7122b8730904151138o3a0cb401hbfaba2d3babfd391@mail.gmail.com>

Hi there, I am a beginner in python and I wrote a simple program
called first.py (using aquamacs) and stored it on my desktop.
I opened IDLE and wrote the command python first.py
and I got a syntax error with 'first' being highlighted
I have a mac os 10.4.11, python 2.6.1 on IDLE
and I also used the aquamacs compiler for python
/* the program i wrote was*/
print " Hello world"
user_input = raw_input("What is your name?")
print "Thank you", user_input
*/
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From massimodisasha at yahoo.it  Wed Apr 15 21:06:50 2009
From: massimodisasha at yahoo.it (massimo di stefano)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 21:06:50 +0200
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Unable to run python application
In-Reply-To: <mailman.14389.1239820734.11745.pythonmac-sig@python.org>
References: <mailman.14389.1239820734.11745.pythonmac-sig@python.org>
Message-ID: <3061C86A-CBC2-4C22-9CFE-27E6FBAF1D93@yahoo.it>

Hi,

you can run your program from the terminal.app
(Application -> Utility -> Terminal.app)


simply running :

python /path/to/first.py



if you want run it inside a python shall, you need to define a function,
to do it :

changes the code to :



#|/usr/bin/python

def first():
     print " Hello world"
     user_input = raw_input("What is your name?")
     print "Thank you", user_input




then open terminal.app
cd /directory where is your file.py
type python


macbook-pro-15-di-sasha:Desktop sasha$ python
Python 2.5.1 (r251:54863, Jan 13 2009, 10:26:13)
[GCC 4.0.1 (Apple Inc. build 5465)] on darwin
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
 >>> from first import *
 >>> first()
  Hello world
What is your name?epi
Thank you epi
 >>>



Massimo Di Stefano
massimodisasha at yahoo.it

epifanio on   irc.freenode.net  /join gfoss







Il giorno 15/apr/09, alle ore 20:38, pbeegee beegee  
<beegee63 at gmail.com> ha scritto:

>
>
>
> Hi there, I am a beginner in python and I wrote a simple program
> called first.py (using aquamacs) and stored it on my desktop.
> I opened IDLE and wrote the command python first.py
> and I got a syntax error with 'first' being highlighted
> I have a mac os 10.4.11, python 2.6.1 on IDLE
> and I also used the aquamacs compiler for python
> /* the program i wrote was*/
> print " Hello world"
> user_input = raw_input("What is your name?")
> print "Thank you", user_input
> */
> <first.py><Picture 1.png><Picture 2.png>
>

Chiacchiera con i tuoi amici in tempo reale! 
 http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/*http://it.messenger.yahoo.com 


From nad at acm.org  Wed Apr 15 21:46:44 2009
From: nad at acm.org (Ned Deily)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 12:46:44 -0700
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Unable to run python application
References: <7122b8730904151138o3a0cb401hbfaba2d3babfd391@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <nad-8A7009.12464415042009@news.gmane.org>

In article 
<7122b8730904151138o3a0cb401hbfaba2d3babfd391 at mail.gmail.com>,
 beegee beegee <beegee63 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi there, I am a beginner in python and I wrote a simple program
> called first.py (using aquamacs) and stored it on my desktop.
> I opened IDLE and wrote the command python first.py
> and I got a syntax error with 'first' being highlighted
> I have a mac os 10.4.11, python 2.6.1 on IDLE
> and I also used the aquamacs compiler for python

When you are in IDLE, use the Open command from the File menu bar item 
to open a python file in a new window.  With focus on the new window, 
the menu bar will change to include a Run menu.

-- 
 Ned Deily,
 nad at acm.org


From dan at rosspixelworks.com  Wed Apr 15 21:27:00 2009
From: dan at rosspixelworks.com (Dan Ross)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 14:27:00 -0500
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Unable to run python application (beegee beegee)
Message-ID: <49E63504.7060105@rosspixelworks.com>

Hi bee gee -

You need to type "python first.py" into Terminal, not IDLE.

Dan

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From shane.clements at gmail.com  Thu Apr 16 09:04:50 2009
From: shane.clements at gmail.com (Shane Clements)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 01:04:50 -0600
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Loading dynamic library
Message-ID: <1101ea550904160004h7ed87712r1d10cc2f3439b318@mail.gmail.com>

Hi.

I'm using py2app to try to port a game to OS X, is there any to avoid this
error?

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "game.py", line 18, in <module>
    import ode
ImportError:
dlopen(/Users/Shane/UTc!/client/dist/client.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python2.5/lib-dynload/ode.so,
2): Library not loaded: @executable_path/../Frameworks/libode.dylib
  Referenced from:
/Users/Shane/UTc!/client/dist/client.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python2.5/lib-dynload/ode.so
  Reason: image not found

I think there's an attempt to load a dynamic library, but not entirely clear
what is happening here.

Googling suggests that there's some issue with the Framework, which I'll
admit I'm just kinda puzzling out.

Ideas?

Shane
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From alexandre at quessy.net  Thu Apr 16 16:43:28 2009
From: alexandre at quessy.net (Alexandre Quessy)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 10:43:28 -0400
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Unable to run python application
In-Reply-To: <nad-8A7009.12464415042009@news.gmane.org>
References: <7122b8730904151138o3a0cb401hbfaba2d3babfd391@mail.gmail.com>
	<nad-8A7009.12464415042009@news.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <72236ba90904160743x3549c2eao173337f29068c919@mail.gmail.com>

Hi beegee !
"/*  */" as a comments delimiter is not supported in Python.
The simplest way to create comments in Python is to begin each comment
line with a #. You can also use triple-delimited strings for
documentation.

a



2009/4/15 Ned Deily <nad at acm.org>:
> In article
> <7122b8730904151138o3a0cb401hbfaba2d3babfd391 at mail.gmail.com>,
> ?beegee beegee <beegee63 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi there, I am a beginner in python and I wrote a simple program
>> called first.py (using aquamacs) and stored it on my desktop.
>> I opened IDLE and wrote the command python first.py
>> and I got a syntax error with 'first' being highlighted
>> I have a mac os 10.4.11, python 2.6.1 on IDLE
>> and I also used the aquamacs compiler for python
>
> When you are in IDLE, use the Open command from the File menu bar item
> to open a python file in a new window. ?With focus on the new window,
> the menu bar will change to include a Run menu.
>
> --
> ?Ned Deily,
> ?nad at acm.org
>
> _______________________________________________
> Pythonmac-SIG maillist ?- ?Pythonmac-SIG at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
>



-- 
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http://alexandre.quessy.net/

From janssen at parc.com  Fri Apr 17 19:56:30 2009
From: janssen at parc.com (Bill Janssen)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 10:56:30 PDT
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Building a PreferencePane with PyObjC?
Message-ID: <53148.1239990990@parc.com>

Hi, all.  I'm trying to build a PreferencePane with Python and Interface
Builder, and the examples I can find on the Web seem somewhat
out-of-date.  In particular, the EnvironmentPane example seems to use a
"magic NIB", which I can't figure out how to construct from scratch, and
which I can't seem to convert to XIB format.  If someone could outline
the steps of what needs to happen to build a new PreferencePane XIB file
from scratch, using IB, I'd be grateful.

Or if you've got a pointer to an up-to-date Xcode 3 example, that would
be useful, too.

Thanks!

Bill

From pascals_sub at pobox.com  Sun Apr 19 02:23:25 2009
From: pascals_sub at pobox.com (Pascal Schaedeli)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 17:23:25 -0700
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Use Setup.py to install to /usr
Message-ID: <2aa16a690904181723m5d6893f3g6db270ba44928e2e@mail.gmail.com>

How to you instruct "setup.py install" to install all files under /usr
instead of /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/Current/bin/?
I tried:
python ./setup.py install --prefix=/usr --dry-run
But it still attempts to create directories
like /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages

I am trying to install "Duplicity", a backup tool using rsync and don't want
it to be installed in the tree of a specific Python distribution in order to
be able to upgrade or switch to another python version without affecting the
availability of duplicity.

Thanks.
Pascal S.
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From ronaldoussoren at mac.com  Sun Apr 19 17:53:31 2009
From: ronaldoussoren at mac.com (Ronald Oussoren)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 17:53:31 +0200
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Building a PreferencePane with PyObjC?
In-Reply-To: <53148.1239990990@parc.com>
References: <53148.1239990990@parc.com>
Message-ID: <DFC9DCF9-9941-4324-8E8B-B5C72D859CFB@mac.com>

Bill,

The example that's in the repository is fully up-to-date, although it  
doesn't use Interface Builder.

The easiest way to develop preference panes for now is to have a dummy  
xcode project to get the nibfile integration in interface builder  
(that is, when you add python files to an xcode project IB automaticly  
knows about those files). Then use py2app to actually build the  
preference pane.

Py2app in subversion already can compile .xib files when building a  
bundle, unless you use the '-A' flag. In that case you're better of to  
instruct Interface builder to save your IB documents as '.nib' files.

BTW, AFAIK there are no Xcode templates for building plugin bundles in  
Python and I have no intention to create those because I don't like  
Xcode for Python development.

Ronald

On 17 Apr, 2009, at 19:56, Bill Janssen wrote:

> Hi, all.  I'm trying to build a PreferencePane with Python and  
> Interface
> Builder, and the examples I can find on the Web seem somewhat
> out-of-date.  In particular, the EnvironmentPane example seems to  
> use a
> "magic NIB", which I can't figure out how to construct from scratch,  
> and
> which I can't seem to convert to XIB format.  If someone could outline
> the steps of what needs to happen to build a new PreferencePane XIB  
> file
> from scratch, using IB, I'd be grateful.
>
> Or if you've got a pointer to an up-to-date Xcode 3 example, that  
> would
> be useful, too.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Bill
> _______________________________________________
> Pythonmac-SIG maillist  -  Pythonmac-SIG at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

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From janssen at parc.com  Sun Apr 19 21:01:58 2009
From: janssen at parc.com (Bill Janssen)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 12:01:58 PDT
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Building a PreferencePane with PyObjC?
In-Reply-To: <DFC9DCF9-9941-4324-8E8B-B5C72D859CFB@mac.com>
References: <53148.1239990990@parc.com>
	<DFC9DCF9-9941-4324-8E8B-B5C72D859CFB@mac.com>
Message-ID: <91752.1240167718@parc.com>

Ronald Oussoren <ronaldoussoren at mac.com> wrote:

> The example that's in the repository is fully up-to-date, although it
> doesn't use Interface Builder.

Good to know.  I'd downloaded a version of the example from somewhere,
which seems a bit antique compared to what's in
http://svn.red-bean.com/pyobjc/trunk/ (I presume that's the
repository?).  But the repo code still has things like marking actions
with "@objc.IBAction", which I haven't found necessary in my code.  Is
that still necessary?

> The easiest way to develop preference panes for now is to have a dummy
> xcode project to get the nibfile integration in interface builder
> (that is, when you add python files to an xcode project IB automaticly
> knows about those files). Then use py2app to actually build the
> preference pane.

OK, that seems straightforward.  Do I have to run "File>>Reload All
Class Files" to get IB to know about the specifics of the class?

And, how do I build an appropriate setup.py file to run py2app on?
Where is that documented?

> Py2app in subversion already can compile .xib files when building a
> bundle, unless you use the '-A' flag. In that case you're better of to
> instruct Interface builder to save your IB documents as '.nib' files.

My problem is connecting things up in IB in the first place, which is
why I was talking about a step-by-step example.  Suppose I use XCode to
build a stub PrefPane project called "test".  I remove the testPref.h
and testPref.m files it provides, and add my own testPref.py file, using
the "Python class which inherits from NSObject template".  I make sure
that testPref.py is in the "Classes" part of the Xcode project.  I edit
testPref.py to have the class "testPref" inherit from NSPreferencePane
instead of NSObject.  I then double-click on testPref.xib to bring up
IB.

That's where I get lost.  What specific actions do I need to do to
connect the preference pane to that new class file?

Here's what I think is right:

1.  In IB, use "File >> Reload All Class Files".
2.  Select "File's Owner", and set its Class type to "testPref".
3.  Build the UI of the PP and connect it up to outlets and actions
    on the "File's Owner" class.
4.  Save everything in IB.
5.  Run py2app to build the pane.

> BTW, AFAIK there are no Xcode templates for building plugin bundles in
> Python and I have no intention to create those because I don't like
> Xcode for Python development.

Yeah, I use Emacs myself, but it's handy to generate that stub project
you recommend.

Bill

> Ronald
> 
> On 17 Apr, 2009, at 19:56, Bill Janssen wrote:
> 
> > Hi, all.  I'm trying to build a PreferencePane with Python and
> > Interface
> > Builder, and the examples I can find on the Web seem somewhat
> > out-of-date.  In particular, the EnvironmentPane example seems to
> > use a
> > "magic NIB", which I can't figure out how to construct from scratch,
> > and
> > which I can't seem to convert to XIB format.  If someone could outline
> > the steps of what needs to happen to build a new PreferencePane XIB
> > file
> > from scratch, using IB, I'd be grateful.
> >
> > Or if you've got a pointer to an up-to-date Xcode 3 example, that
> > would
> > be useful, too.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Bill
> > _______________________________________________
> > Pythonmac-SIG maillist  -  Pythonmac-SIG at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
> 

From dhain+pythonmac at zognot.org  Sun Apr 19 21:17:05 2009
From: dhain+pythonmac at zognot.org (David Hain)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 12:17:05 -0700
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Building a PreferencePane with PyObjC?
In-Reply-To: <91752.1240167718@parc.com>
References: <53148.1239990990@parc.com>
	<DFC9DCF9-9941-4324-8E8B-B5C72D859CFB@mac.com>
	<91752.1240167718@parc.com>
Message-ID: <5353EECE-60FB-428B-B744-B7CE1424D401@zognot.org>

On Apr 19, 2009, at 12:01 PM, Bill Janssen wrote:

>> Py2app in subversion already can compile .xib files when building a
>> bundle, unless you use the '-A' flag. In that case you're better of  
>> to
>> instruct Interface builder to save your IB documents as '.nib' files.

FYI, here's a little snippet from one of my setup.py files to add a  
'compile_nib' command. This is what I use to compile my xib files to  
nibs while I'm developing with -A.

import subprocess
import glob
import os
from distutils.core import Command

class CompileNib(Command):
     user_options = []

     def initialize_options(self):
         pass

     def finalize_options(self):
         pass

     def run(self):
         outdir = u'resources/English.lproj'
         if not os.path.exists(outdir):
             os.mkdir(outdir)
         for fn in glob.iglob(u'*.[nx]ib'):
             outfn = os.path.splitext(fn)[0]
             outfile = os.path.join(outdir, outfn + u'.nib')
             subprocess.check_call(['ibtool', '--compile', outfile, fn])


if __name__ == '__main__':
     setup(**dict(setup_args, cmdclass=dict(compile_nib=CompileNib)))


This will find any *.[nx]ib files in the CWD and compile them into the  
resources/English.lproj directory. Should be easy enough to modify.  
All it really does is call 'ibtool --compile' which does the work. To  
use, just run 'python setup.py compile_nib'. Hope this helps!

-David

From janssen at parc.com  Sun Apr 19 21:23:46 2009
From: janssen at parc.com (Bill Janssen)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 12:23:46 PDT
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Building a PreferencePane with PyObjC?
In-Reply-To: <91752.1240167718@parc.com>
References: <53148.1239990990@parc.com>
	<DFC9DCF9-9941-4324-8E8B-B5C72D859CFB@mac.com>
	<91752.1240167718@parc.com>
Message-ID: <92022.1240169026@parc.com>

Bill Janssen <janssen at parc.com> wrote:

> Ronald Oussoren <ronaldoussoren at mac.com> wrote:
> 
> > The example that's in the repository is fully up-to-date, although it
> > doesn't use Interface Builder.
> 
> Good to know.  I'd downloaded a version of the example from somewhere,
> which seems a bit antique compared to what's in
> http://svn.red-bean.com/pyobjc/trunk/ (I presume that's the
> repository?).  But the repo code still has things like marking actions
> with "@objc.IBAction", which I haven't found necessary in my code.  Is
> that still necessary?
> 
> > The easiest way to develop preference panes for now is to have a dummy
> > xcode project to get the nibfile integration in interface builder
> > (that is, when you add python files to an xcode project IB automaticly
> > knows about those files). Then use py2app to actually build the
> > preference pane.
> 
> OK, that seems straightforward.  Do I have to run "File>>Reload All
> Class Files" to get IB to know about the specifics of the class?
> 
> And, how do I build an appropriate setup.py file to run py2app on?
> Where is that documented?
> 
> > Py2app in subversion already can compile .xib files when building a
> > bundle, unless you use the '-A' flag. In that case you're better of to
> > instruct Interface builder to save your IB documents as '.nib' files.
> 
> My problem is connecting things up in IB in the first place, which is
> why I was talking about a step-by-step example.  Suppose I use XCode to
> build a stub PrefPane project called "test".  I remove the testPref.h
> and testPref.m files it provides, and add my own testPref.py file, using
> the "Python class which inherits from NSObject template".  I make sure
> that testPref.py is in the "Classes" part of the Xcode project.  I edit
> testPref.py to have the class "testPref" inherit from NSPreferencePane
> instead of NSObject.  I then double-click on testPref.xib to bring up
> IB.
> 
> That's where I get lost.  What specific actions do I need to do to
> connect the preference pane to that new class file?
> 
> Here's what I think is right:
> 
> 1.  In IB, use "File >> Reload All Class Files".
> 2.  Select "File's Owner", and set its Class type to "testPref".
> 3.  Build the UI of the PP and connect it up to outlets and actions
>     on the "File's Owner" class.
> 4.  Save everything in IB.
> 5.  Run py2app to build the pane.
> 
> > BTW, AFAIK there are no Xcode templates for building plugin bundles in
> > Python and I have no intention to create those because I don't like
> > Xcode for Python development.
> 
> Yeah, I use Emacs myself, but it's handy to generate that stub project
> you recommend.
> 
> Bill
> 
> > Ronald
> > 
> > On 17 Apr, 2009, at 19:56, Bill Janssen wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi, all.  I'm trying to build a PreferencePane with Python and
> > > Interface
> > > Builder, and the examples I can find on the Web seem somewhat
> > > out-of-date.  In particular, the EnvironmentPane example seems to
> > > use a
> > > "magic NIB", which I can't figure out how to construct from scratch,
> > > and
> > > which I can't seem to convert to XIB format.  If someone could outline
> > > the steps of what needs to happen to build a new PreferencePane XIB
> > > file
> > > from scratch, using IB, I'd be grateful.
> > >
> > > Or if you've got a pointer to an up-to-date Xcode 3 example, that
> > > would
> > > be useful, too.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Bill

Yeah, I still can't get this to work.  When I try to load the prefPane,
I get the following error message on the console:

*** -[NSCFArray insertObject:atIndex:]: attempt to insert nil

I think I'm missing something in the NIB.

Bill

From ronaldoussoren at mac.com  Sun Apr 19 22:13:40 2009
From: ronaldoussoren at mac.com (Ronald Oussoren)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 22:13:40 +0200
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Building a PreferencePane with PyObjC?
In-Reply-To: <91752.1240167718@parc.com>
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On 19 Apr, 2009, at 21:01, Bill Janssen wrote:

> Ronald Oussoren <ronaldoussoren at mac.com> wrote:
>
>> The example that's in the repository is fully up-to-date, although it
>> doesn't use Interface Builder.
>
> Good to know.  I'd downloaded a version of the example from somewhere,
> which seems a bit antique compared to what's in
> http://svn.red-bean.com/pyobjc/trunk/ (I presume that's the
> repository?).  But the repo code still has things like marking actions
> with "@objc.IBAction", which I haven't found necessary in my code.  Is
> that still necessary?

That isn't "still" necessary, it is necessary for the Python support  
in Interface Builder to work correctly. That's the purely functional  
reason for adding that decorator, although it also helps in  
documenting why the method is there.

Ronald

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From janssen at parc.com  Sun Apr 19 22:40:28 2009
From: janssen at parc.com (Bill Janssen)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 13:40:28 PDT
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Building a PreferencePane with PyObjC?
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Ronald Oussoren <ronaldoussoren at mac.com> wrote:

> 
> On 19 Apr, 2009, at 21:01, Bill Janssen wrote:
> 
> > Ronald Oussoren <ronaldoussoren at mac.com> wrote:
> >
> >> The example that's in the repository is fully up-to-date, although it
> >> doesn't use Interface Builder.
> >
> > Good to know.  I'd downloaded a version of the example from somewhere,
> > which seems a bit antique compared to what's in
> > http://svn.red-bean.com/pyobjc/trunk/ (I presume that's the
> > repository?).  But the repo code still has things like marking actions
> > with "@objc.IBAction", which I haven't found necessary in my code.  Is
> > that still necessary?
> 
> That isn't "still" necessary, it is necessary for the Python support
> in Interface Builder to work correctly. That's the purely functional
> reason for adding that decorator, although it also helps in
> documenting why the method is there.

"work properly"?  So, what breaks if it's omitted?  As I say, I've
written functioning Cocoa-Python code that doesn't use @objc.IBAction,
but the actions seem to get called correctly.

Bill

From pascals_sub at pobox.com  Mon Apr 20 01:03:07 2009
From: pascals_sub at pobox.com (Pascal Schaedeli)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 16:03:07 -0700
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Use Setup.py to install to /usr
In-Reply-To: <2aa16a690904181723m5d6893f3g6db270ba44928e2e@mail.gmail.com>
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Here is the temporary solution I've found for my case. Still looking for
better suggestions.
To recap, my problem is that by default, "python setup.py install" places
all files under
"/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/Current/bin/". When I added
"--prefix=/usr" as a setup.py argument, the main executable is correctly
located under /usr/bin, but many python files to be imported are copied to a
newly created directory "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages". Then, when
python starts, the site module (http://docs.python.org/library/site.html)
adds the concatenation of sys.prefix and lib/python2.5/site-packages as well
as lib/site-python and adds those combinations to the path.

Unfortunately, sys.prefix is
"/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5", so the necessary
imports in "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages" are never found (didn't
research further, but this is probably a python compile time option).

I did two manual adjustments:

   - Moved necessary imports from "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages" to
   "/usr/lib/site-python" to remove the python version specificity. Let me know
   if there is any way to achieve this with setup.py.
   - Added "/usr/lib/site-python" to PYTHONPATH environment variable.

Pascal

On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Pascal Schaedeli <pascals_sub at pobox.com>wrote:

> How to you instruct "setup.py install" to install all files under /usr
> instead of /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/Current/bin/?
> I tried:
> python ./setup.py install --prefix=/usr --dry-run
> But it still attempts to create directories
> like /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages
>
> I am trying to install "Duplicity", a backup tool using rsync and don't
> want it to be installed in the tree of a specific Python distribution in
> order to be able to upgrade or switch to another python version without
> affecting the availability of duplicity.
>
> Thanks.
> Pascal S.
>



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From nad at acm.org  Mon Apr 20 04:52:20 2009
From: nad at acm.org (Ned Deily)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 19:52:20 -0700
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Use Setup.py to install to /usr
References: <2aa16a690904181723m5d6893f3g6db270ba44928e2e@mail.gmail.com>
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In article 
<2aa16a690904191603p141f59aet51c1dcf3410e2fcc at mail.gmail.com>,
 Pascal Schaedeli <pascals_sub at pobox.com> wrote:
> Here is the temporary solution I've found for my case. Still looking for
> better suggestions.
> To recap, my problem is that by default, "python setup.py install" places
> all files under
> "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/Current/bin/". When I added
> "--prefix=/usr" as a setup.py argument, the main executable is correctly
> located under /usr/bin, but many python files to be imported are copied to a
> newly created directory "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages". Then, when
> python starts, the site module (http://docs.python.org/library/site.html)
> adds the concatenation of sys.prefix and lib/python2.5/site-packages as well
> as lib/site-python and adds those combinations to the path.
> 
> Unfortunately, sys.prefix is
> "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5", so the necessary
> imports in "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages" are never found (didn't
> research further, but this is probably a python compile time option).
> 
> I did two manual adjustments:
> 
>    - Moved necessary imports from "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages" to
>    "/usr/lib/site-python" to remove the python version specificity. Let me 
>    know
>    if there is any way to achieve this with setup.py.
>    - Added "/usr/lib/site-python" to PYTHONPATH environment variable.

In general, you should not be installing anything into /usr/bin or 
/usr/lib; the contents of those directories are managed by OS X.  
/usr/local/ would be OK, though.

No matter where duplicity gets installed, there will still be a 
dependency on a python interpreter version.  If you are using python.org 
installers, the standard place for site-packages is within the 
framework.  If you need to upgrade that python version, you can easily 
re-install duplicity and its dependencies or you can move them out of 
the way when you perform a python upgrade.  If you use the 10.5 
Apple-supplied python, the site packages are installed in 
/Library/Python/Frameworks/ and shouldn't be disturbed by an Apple 
10.5.x upgrade.  You could also install a Macports python to use as your 
"production" python; macports also includes a duplicity port, though no 
idea how well it is maintained.  Or, in theory, you could use virtualenv 
with any of those python versions to create a "frozen" virtual python 
environment and install duplicity there.

-- 
 Ned Deily,
 nad at acm.org


From ronaldoussoren at mac.com  Mon Apr 20 07:37:04 2009
From: ronaldoussoren at mac.com (Ronald Oussoren)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 07:37:04 +0200
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Building a PreferencePane with PyObjC?
In-Reply-To: <93763.1240173628@parc.com>
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On 19 Apr, 2009, at 22:40, Bill Janssen wrote:

> Ronald Oussoren <ronaldoussoren at mac.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 19 Apr, 2009, at 21:01, Bill Janssen wrote:
>>
>>> Ronald Oussoren <ronaldoussoren at mac.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The example that's in the repository is fully up-to-date,  
>>>> although it
>>>> doesn't use Interface Builder.
>>>
>>> Good to know.  I'd downloaded a version of the example from  
>>> somewhere,
>>> which seems a bit antique compared to what's in
>>> http://svn.red-bean.com/pyobjc/trunk/ (I presume that's the
>>> repository?).  But the repo code still has things like marking  
>>> actions
>>> with "@objc.IBAction", which I haven't found necessary in my  
>>> code.  Is
>>> that still necessary?
>>
>> That isn't "still" necessary, it is necessary for the Python support
>> in Interface Builder to work correctly. That's the purely functional
>> reason for adding that decorator, although it also helps in
>> documenting why the method is there.
>
> "work properly"?  So, what breaks if it's omitted?

If you don't add the IBAction decorator Interface Builder won't show  
your action methods as actions when you ctrl-drag a connection to an  
instance of your class.

Ronald

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From janssen at parc.com  Mon Apr 20 17:24:14 2009
From: janssen at parc.com (Bill Janssen)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 08:24:14 PDT
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Building a PreferencePane with PyObjC?
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Ronald Oussoren <ronaldoussoren at mac.com> wrote:

> If you don't add the IBAction decorator Interface Builder won't show
> your action methods as actions when you ctrl-drag a connection to an
> instance of your class.

Thanks, Ronald.

So this is part of what IB looks for when you tell it to scan the class
files.  I've been adding the actions myself manually to the class in IB,
before ctrl-dragging the connection, which is another way of doing it but
laborious.

Bill

From ronaldoussoren at mac.com  Mon Apr 20 18:54:12 2009
From: ronaldoussoren at mac.com (Ronald Oussoren)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 18:54:12 +0200
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Building a PreferencePane with PyObjC?
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On 20 Apr, 2009, at 17:24, Bill Janssen wrote:

> Ronald Oussoren <ronaldoussoren at mac.com> wrote:
>
>> If you don't add the IBAction decorator Interface Builder won't show
>> your action methods as actions when you ctrl-drag a connection to an
>> instance of your class.
>
> Thanks, Ronald.
>
> So this is part of what IB looks for when you tell it to scan the  
> class
> files.  I've been adding the actions myself manually to the class in  
> IB,
> before ctrl-dragging the connection, which is another way of doing  
> it but
> laborious.

That right. Interface Builder looks for the IBAction decorator to  
define outlets and IBOutlet definitions to define outlets:

     class MyController (NSObject):

         outlet = objc.IBOutlet()

         @objc.IBAction
         def myAction_(self, sender): pass

Ronald

>
> Bill

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From Chris.Barker at noaa.gov  Mon Apr 20 21:15:16 2009
From: Chris.Barker at noaa.gov (Christopher Barker)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 12:15:16 -0700
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Use Setup.py to install to /usr
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Pascal Schaedeli wrote:
> Here is the temporary solution I've found for my case. Still looking for 
> better suggestions.

my main suggestion is to "don't do that". A few notes:

1) Ned's right -- DO NOT put stuff in /usr/lib -- use /usr/local/lib, if 
at all.

> To recap, my problem is that by default, "python setup.py install" 
> places all files under 
> "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/Current/bin/".

Right, that's the whole point of distutils -- it installs stuff where it 
belongs for the python the setup,oy is run with. If all else fails, you 
could do:

setup.py build

then hand-copy everything where you want it.

> Unfortunately, sys.prefix is 
> "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5", so the necessary 
> imports in "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages" are never found (didn't 
> research further, but this is probably a python compile time option).

it's doing the right thing -- you are trying to do something odd, so 
you'll need to add the extra path yourself.

> I did two manual adjustments:
> 
>     * Moved necessary imports from "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages" to
>       "/usr/lib/site-python" to remove the python version specificity.

Bad idea -- version specificity is there for a reason -- 2.x and 2.x+n 
are not necessarily fully compatibile -- definitely not if they have any 
compiled extensions

>       Let me know if there is any way to achieve this with setup.py.

I don't think so.

>     * Added "/usr/lib/site-python" to PYTHONPATH environment variable.

I dont like using PYTHONPATH -- it's global to ALL pythons, which can 
cause trouble.

Rather, I'd use a *.pth file, put in /Library/........./site-packages. 
You can look at wxPython for an example, it uses a *.pth file to add 
paths in /usr/local so that the python,org an Apple pythons can share 
the same wxPython install -- note that those are both 2.5, though.


I'm still not sure what problem you are trying to solve. If you install 
in the usual way, and upgrade form 2.5.x to 2.5.x+1, it will just work.

If you upgrade to 2.6.*, it probably will need a new install of your 
package anyway.

>  in order to be able to upgrade or switch to another
>     python version without affecting the availability of duplicity.

You can install a new python, and keep the old one around, so that it 
will still be able to run old code, so this may be a non-issue anyway.

-Chris




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From: jsmith at medplus.com (Smith, Jeff)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 16:53:12 -0400
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Using getwcd() in a frozen app
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I am using py2app 0.3.6 on Mac OX 10.5 and after I freeze a simple
command line tool, os.getcwd() returns the location where the
application binary lives and not the directory the application is run
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From rowen at u.washington.edu  Wed Apr 22 01:10:30 2009
From: rowen at u.washington.edu (Russell E. Owen)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 16:10:30 -0700
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Patch for bdist_mpkg
Message-ID: <rowen-6658E5.16103021042009@news.gmane.org>

bdist_mpkg failed for me on 10.5.6 when I tried to build a binary for 
numarray 1.3.0/Python 2.6 as follows:
"/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/python2.6/site-pac
kages/bdist_mpkg/tools.py", line 106, in admin_writable
    gid = get_gid('admin')
  File 
"/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/python2.6/site-pac
kages/bdist_mpkg/tools.py", line 90, in get_gid
    raise ValueError('group %s not found' % (name,))
ValueError: group admin not found

When I noted this on a numpy mailing list David Cournapeau pointed out 
the a patch, which is at the very end of the following document:
  <http://www.pymvpa.org/devguide.html>
and stated:
"It is a bug of bdist_mpkg on leopard (the error message is a bit
misleading - if you look at the code, you will see it calls for a
command line utility which does not exist on leopard)."

I applied the patch and it worked for me.

I'm hoping the patch (or an equivalent) could make its way to the 
release version. If there's anything I can do to help this process let 
me know.

-- Russell

P.S. I have a binary installer for numpy 1.3.0 on MacPython 2.6. Email 
me if you want to test it or serve it. So far binary installers for 
MacPython 2.6 seem to be in very short supply (I still need matplotlib 
and PIL before I can switch away from Python 2.5).


From Chris.Barker at noaa.gov  Wed Apr 22 01:34:04 2009
From: Chris.Barker at noaa.gov (Christopher Barker)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 16:34:04 -0700
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Using getwcd() in a frozen app
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References: <DA235E4D5FD3CE4C8B77382F0837274C014A9DBD@EXCHMAIL01.corp.medplus.com>
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Smith, Jeff wrote:
> I am using py2app 0.3.6 on Mac OX 10.5 and after I freeze a simple 
> command line tool, os.getcwd() returns the location where the 
> application binary lives and not the directory the application is run 
> from.  Is there expected behavior

Yes. The idea is that with a GUI app, the working dir is poorly defined, 
so this can be useful.

> and if so, is there a workaround for this?

Hmmm. Py2app really isn't designed for command line apps -- how are you 
launching it?

But in any case, it looks like this option may do what you want:


--no-chdir (-C)         do not change to the data directory
                         (Contents/Resources) [forced for plugins]


I found that here:

http://svn.pythonmac.org/py2app/py2app/trunk/doc/index.html#option-reference

-Chris



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From ronaldoussoren at mac.com  Wed Apr 22 07:27:38 2009
From: ronaldoussoren at mac.com (Ronald Oussoren)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 07:27:38 +0200
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Patch for bdist_mpkg
In-Reply-To: <rowen-6658E5.16103021042009@news.gmane.org>
References: <rowen-6658E5.16103021042009@news.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <FB36ACFC-2818-4B87-8BAA-A1E512404EB8@mac.com>

Russel,

The patch is already in the reposity. I guess Bob never released a  
version with that patch included.

Are you using bdist_mpkg 0.4.3?  If so, I'll push out a new release  
that includes the patch.

Ronald

On 22 Apr, 2009, at 1:10, Russell E. Owen wrote:

> bdist_mpkg failed for me on 10.5.6 when I tried to build a binary for
> numarray 1.3.0/Python 2.6 as follows:
> "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/python2.6/ 
> site-pac
> kages/bdist_mpkg/tools.py", line 106, in admin_writable
>    gid = get_gid('admin')
>  File
> "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/python2.6/ 
> site-pac
> kages/bdist_mpkg/tools.py", line 90, in get_gid
>    raise ValueError('group %s not found' % (name,))
> ValueError: group admin not found
>
> When I noted this on a numpy mailing list David Cournapeau pointed out
> the a patch, which is at the very end of the following document:
>  <http://www.pymvpa.org/devguide.html>
> and stated:
> "It is a bug of bdist_mpkg on leopard (the error message is a bit
> misleading - if you look at the code, you will see it calls for a
> command line utility which does not exist on leopard)."
>
> I applied the patch and it worked for me.
>
> I'm hoping the patch (or an equivalent) could make its way to the
> release version. If there's anything I can do to help this process let
> me know.
>
> -- Russell
>
> P.S. I have a binary installer for numpy 1.3.0 on MacPython 2.6. Email
> me if you want to test it or serve it. So far binary installers for
> MacPython 2.6 seem to be in very short supply (I still need matplotlib
> and PIL before I can switch away from Python 2.5).
>
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From: bollen_85 at hotmail.com (Mikael Andersson)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 07:52:14 +0000
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] FW: Upgrade python Apple tv (Mac)
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From: bollen_85 at hotmail.com
To: pythonmac-sig at python.org
Subject: Upgrade python Apple tv (Mac)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 07:50:16 +0000








Hi,

I have python on my Apple tv but the version I'm using is 2.5 and I would like to update to current version 3.0.1 

Cheers

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From: bollen_85 at hotmail.com (Mikael Andersson)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 07:50:16 +0000
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Upgrade python Apple tv (Mac)
Message-ID: <COL114-W24DC4EB6B5AB198AB9BF579B740@phx.gbl>


Hi,

I have python on my Apple tv but the version I'm using is 2.5 and I would like to update to current version 3.0.1 

Cheers

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From Chris.Barker at noaa.gov  Wed Apr 22 19:30:59 2009
From: Chris.Barker at noaa.gov (Christopher Barker)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 10:30:59 -0700
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Using getwcd() in a frozen app
In-Reply-To: <DA235E4D5FD3CE4C8B77382F0837274C014AA03E@EXCHMAIL01.corp.medplus.com>
References: <DA235E4D5FD3CE4C8B77382F0837274C014A9DBD@EXCHMAIL01.corp.medplus.com>
	<49EE57EC.1040307@noaa.gov>
	<DA235E4D5FD3CE4C8B77382F0837274C014AA03E@EXCHMAIL01.corp.medplus.com>
Message-ID: <49EF5453.10909@noaa.gov>

NOTE: your reply only went to me, not the list -- you need to "reply all".

Smith, Jeff wrote:
> Thanks...that did the trick.

good, it wasn't totally clear to me that that was quite what it did!

> In case you are interested in the context, we have an automated build
> system that works across multiple platforms and use a frozen python app
> for some things.  We freeze it to avoid having to install Python on all
> the build machines.  We just added Mac to the list of platforms and the
> freezing tool that works on Linux and Windows (cx_Freeze) doesn't work
> on Mac so I am using py2app for that platform.

It sounds like you are done, but just in case, you might look into 
bbfreeze -- it works on all those platforms, and while it doesn't build 
app bundles on OS-X, it may work well for your use.

-Chris

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From jsmith at medplus.com  Wed Apr 22 20:21:42 2009
From: jsmith at medplus.com (Smith, Jeff)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 14:21:42 -0400
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Using getwcd() in a frozen app
In-Reply-To: <49EF5453.10909@noaa.gov>
References: <DA235E4D5FD3CE4C8B77382F0837274C014A9DBD@EXCHMAIL01.corp.medplus.com><49EE57EC.1040307@noaa.gov><DA235E4D5FD3CE4C8B77382F0837274C014AA03E@EXCHMAIL01.corp.medplus.com>
	<49EF5453.10909@noaa.gov>
Message-ID: <DA235E4D5FD3CE4C8B77382F0837274C014AA0A2@EXCHMAIL01.corp.medplus.com>

Unfortunately, bbfreeze doesn't even work for simple cases on Mac OS X:

Warning: don't know how to handle binary dependencies on this platform
(darwin)

Jeffery G. Smith
MedPlus, A Quest Diagnostics Company | Senior SCM Specialist | 4690
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NOTE: your reply only went to me, not the list -- you need to "reply
all".

Smith, Jeff wrote:
> Thanks...that did the trick.

good, it wasn't totally clear to me that that was quite what it did!

> In case you are interested in the context, we have an automated build 
> system that works across multiple platforms and use a frozen python 
> app for some things.  We freeze it to avoid having to install Python 
> on all the build machines.  We just added Mac to the list of platforms

> and the freezing tool that works on Linux and Windows (cx_Freeze) 
> doesn't work on Mac so I am using py2app for that platform.

It sounds like you are done, but just in case, you might look into
bbfreeze -- it works on all those platforms, and while it doesn't build
app bundles on OS-X, it may work well for your use.

-Chris

--
Christopher Barker, Ph.D.
Oceanographer

Emergency Response Division
NOAA/NOS/OR&R            (206) 526-6959   voice
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From Chris.Barker at noaa.gov  Wed Apr 22 20:31:34 2009
From: Chris.Barker at noaa.gov (Christopher Barker)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 11:31:34 -0700
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Using getwcd() in a frozen app
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References: <DA235E4D5FD3CE4C8B77382F0837274C014A9DBD@EXCHMAIL01.corp.medplus.com>
	<49EE57EC.1040307@noaa.gov>
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	<49EF5453.10909@noaa.gov>
	<DA235E4D5FD3CE4C8B77382F0837274C014AA0A2@EXCHMAIL01.corp.medplus.com>
Message-ID: <49EF6286.7090502@noaa.gov>

Smith, Jeff wrote:
> Unfortunately, bbfreeze doesn't even work for simple cases on Mac OS X:
> 
> Warning: don't know how to handle binary dependencies on this platform
> (darwin)

Are you using the development version? I don't know that Mac support has 
made it to a release version, but it has worked for me at least once -- 
it didn't build an app bundle, so I didn't go forward with it, but it 
has been used.

Here is a thread from the bbfreeze-users list -- I don't know if any 
progress has been made since then:

http://groups.google.com/group/bbfreeze-users/browse_thread/thread/5652e1a12a085054?hl=en#


-Chris


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From jsmith at medplus.com  Wed Apr 22 20:41:30 2009
From: jsmith at medplus.com (Smith, Jeff)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 14:41:30 -0400
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Interesting problem with frozen app
Message-ID: <DA235E4D5FD3CE4C8B77382F0837274C014AA0C9@EXCHMAIL01.corp.medplus.com>

This is only a test case for a larger system.
 
I have created an app that freezes itself.
 
setup.py
------------
from setuptools import setup
 
APP = ['freezer.py']
DATA_FILES = []
OPTIONS = {'argv_emulation': True, 'no_chdir': True, 'optimize': True}
 
setup(
    app=APP,
    data_files=DATA_FILES,
    options={'py2app': OPTIONS},
    setup_requires=['py2app'],
)

 
freezer.py
--------------
import os
os.system('python setup.py py2app')

Running: python freezer.py
 
works as expected.  But the frozen app does not work:
 
> mv dist run
> run/freezer.app/Contents/MacOS/freezer
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "setup.py", line 1, in <module>
    from setuptools import setup
ImportError: No module named setuptools

Note that the error is not comming from the frozen app but from the copy
of Python being run by the frozen app in the os.system call.
 

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Parkway Drive | Mason, OH 45040 USA | phone +1.513.204.2601 | fax
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From beegee63 at gmail.com  Thu Apr 23 15:36:58 2009
From: beegee63 at gmail.com (beegee beegee)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 19:06:58 +0530
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] applications of python in software testing
Message-ID: <7122b8730904230636l374bf5faqad56239d699d31db@mail.gmail.com>

Hello, I am into software testing (manual). I would like to know how
could I apply python to test a software, please provide some examples
or references to reading material which would explain the same.
regards

From bgquest at gmail.com  Fri Apr 24 09:47:38 2009
From: bgquest at gmail.com (beegee beegee)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 13:17:38 +0530
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] How can python help in testing of applications
Message-ID: <4644d56e0904240047m7c8fbce4x74f7d1e66b247924@mail.gmail.com>

Hello, I am a software tester (black box, manual), and I would like to know,
by learning python, how would it benefit my black box testing efforts
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From info at reatlas.com  Sat Apr 25 00:33:04 2009
From: info at reatlas.com (Ethan Herdrick)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 15:33:04 -0700
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] How to remove Python from my Mac?
In-Reply-To: <91f48dbf0904241531g2d5283a6jc01f4b9d282a0a59@mail.gmail.com>
References: <91f48dbf0904241531g2d5283a6jc01f4b9d282a0a59@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <91f48dbf0904241533k3722b56au56bb7726eed30229@mail.gmail.com>

Hi - I'm getting started with Python and am getting ImportError
trouble with the first step of the very simple tutorial for web.py.
I'm suspecting that the fact that I have two installations of Python -
one that my Mac came with and one that I installed from
python-2.6.2-macosx2009-04-16.dmg which I got from
python.org/download/ - might be the problem.

Also, in trying to get this thing going I was fiddling with the
install_lib setting in .pydistutils.cfg and left it in a modified
state before running setup.py on a module, so the module ended up in a
strange location.

Anyway, I'd really be happier if I could wipe all python stuff -
including things like easy_install - from my machine so I can just
start over. ?This seems to be harder than it sounds. ?True? ?And how
do I do this?

Thank you in advance.

From Chris.Barker at noaa.gov  Sat Apr 25 01:08:20 2009
From: Chris.Barker at noaa.gov (Christopher Barker)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:08:20 -0700
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] How to remove Python from my Mac?
In-Reply-To: <91f48dbf0904241533k3722b56au56bb7726eed30229@mail.gmail.com>
References: <91f48dbf0904241531g2d5283a6jc01f4b9d282a0a59@mail.gmail.com>
	<91f48dbf0904241533k3722b56au56bb7726eed30229@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49F24664.8020001@noaa.gov>

Ethan Herdrick wrote:
> Hi - I'm getting started with Python and am getting ImportError
> trouble with the first step of the very simple tutorial for web.py.
> I'm suspecting that the fact that I have two installations of Python -
> one that my Mac came with and one that I installed from
> python-2.6.2-macosx2009-04-16.dmg which I got from
> python.org/download/ - might be the problem.

that shouldn't be a problem, but you do need to make sure you are 
running the one you think you are. "which python" will help you know if 
you PATH is set right.

> Anyway, I'd really be happier if I could wipe all python stuff -
> including things like easy_install - from my machine so I can just
> start over.

Well, you don't want to wipe the Apple-supplied one.

You can get rid of the python.org one be deleting:

/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/

and:

/Applications/MacPython 2.6/

you may need to clean up your PATH in .bash_profile.

If you've set any environment variable, like PYTHONPATH, you need to 
make sure you clear those in .bash_profile, etc.

and I guess delete .pydistutils.cfg

-CHB




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From rowen at u.washington.edu  Sat Apr 25 01:13:55 2009
From: rowen at u.washington.edu (Russell E. Owen)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:13:55 -0700
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] How to remove Python from my Mac?
References: <91f48dbf0904241531g2d5283a6jc01f4b9d282a0a59@mail.gmail.com>
	<91f48dbf0904241533k3722b56au56bb7726eed30229@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <rowen-E1C2B4.16135524042009@news.gmane.org>

In article 
<91f48dbf0904241533k3722b56au56bb7726eed30229 at mail.gmail.com>,
 Ethan Herdrick <info at reatlas.com> wrote:

> Hi - I'm getting started with Python and am getting ImportError
> trouble with the first step of the very simple tutorial for web.py.
> I'm suspecting that the fact that I have two installations of Python -
> one that my Mac came with and one that I installed from
> python-2.6.2-macosx2009-04-16.dmg which I got from
> python.org/download/ - might be the problem.
> 
> Also, in trying to get this thing going I was fiddling with the
> install_lib setting in .pydistutils.cfg and left it in a modified
> state before running setup.py on a module, so the module ended up in a
> strange location.
> 
> Anyway, I'd really be happier if I could wipe all python stuff -
> including things like easy_install - from my machine so I can just
> start over. ?This seems to be harder than it sounds. ?True? ?And how
> do I do this?

Wiping the user-installed python is easy. Just delete:
/Library/Frameworks/Python.Framework

To do this from terminal you can type:
rm -rf /Library/Frameworks/Python.Framework

Note that you can also delete just a particular version if python if you 
have more than one -- just look in the directory mentioned above.

This may leave some symlinks in /usr/local/bin, but if you plan to 
install a fresh python you can ignore them because they will get 
overwritten. Otherwise look for python* and in the case of Python 2.6, 
also *2to3*

If you messed up your system python, that can be harder, but at least 
user-installed packages that were properly installed are easy to remove. 
Look in /Library/Python/2.3/site-packages/
(e.g. in Terminal type "open /Library/Python/2.3/site-packages")
and remove everything except ReadMe and Extras.pth
Then you can look at Extras.pth and make sure it only has one line that 
points somewhere in /System
(you can delete any additional lines).

For some reason I found I also have /Library/Python/2.5; not sure where 
that came from but it is basically empty (just contains 
site-packages/README). You might want to look for the 2.6 version and 
make sure it is basically empty.

-- Russell


From info at reatlas.com  Sat Apr 25 05:07:53 2009
From: info at reatlas.com (Ethan Herdrick)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 20:07:53 -0700
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] How to remove Python from my Mac?
In-Reply-To: <rowen-E1C2B4.16135524042009@news.gmane.org>
References: <91f48dbf0904241531g2d5283a6jc01f4b9d282a0a59@mail.gmail.com>
	<91f48dbf0904241533k3722b56au56bb7726eed30229@mail.gmail.com>
	<rowen-E1C2B4.16135524042009@news.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <91f48dbf0904242007kc6d15beqd4ee60851cbe47c6@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you for the info.  Things are working OK now, so I'm going to stick
with what I've got and not kill anything.  I just wiped out the old
dir I had specified as install_lib in .pydistutils.cfg , then restored
that value (that is, the install_lib value in .pydistutils.cfg) to
what it was supposed to be,
~/Library/Python/$py_version_short/site-packages .  Then I used
setup.py on the module I was trying to install.  Everything seems to be
working OK now.

Good thing you guys prevented me from wiping out my pre-installed
Python.  I had assumed it was expendable.

Thanks!
-Ethan


On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Russell E. Owen <rowen at u.washington.edu> wrote:
> In article
> <91f48dbf0904241533k3722b56au56bb7726eed30229 at mail.gmail.com>,
> ?Ethan Herdrick <info at reatlas.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi - I'm getting started with Python and am getting ImportError
>> trouble with the first step of the very simple tutorial for web.py.
>> I'm suspecting that the fact that I have two installations of Python -
>> one that my Mac came with and one that I installed from
>> python-2.6.2-macosx2009-04-16.dmg which I got from
>> python.org/download/ - might be the problem.
>>
>> Also, in trying to get this thing going I was fiddling with the
>> install_lib setting in .pydistutils.cfg and left it in a modified
>> state before running setup.py on a module, so the module ended up in a
>> strange location.
>>
>> Anyway, I'd really be happier if I could wipe all python stuff -
>> including things like easy_install - from my machine so I can just
>> start over. ?This seems to be harder than it sounds. ?True? ?And how
>> do I do this?
>
> Wiping the user-installed python is easy. Just delete:
> /Library/Frameworks/Python.Framework
>
> To do this from terminal you can type:
> rm -rf /Library/Frameworks/Python.Framework
>
> Note that you can also delete just a particular version if python if you
> have more than one -- just look in the directory mentioned above.
>
> This may leave some symlinks in /usr/local/bin, but if you plan to
> install a fresh python you can ignore them because they will get
> overwritten. Otherwise look for python* and in the case of Python 2.6,
> also *2to3*
>
> If you messed up your system python, that can be harder, but at least
> user-installed packages that were properly installed are easy to remove.
> Look in /Library/Python/2.3/site-packages/
> (e.g. in Terminal type "open /Library/Python/2.3/site-packages")
> and remove everything except ReadMe and Extras.pth
> Then you can look at Extras.pth and make sure it only has one line that
> points somewhere in /System
> (you can delete any additional lines).
>
> For some reason I found I also have /Library/Python/2.5; not sure where
> that came from but it is basically empty (just contains
> site-packages/README). You might want to look for the 2.6 version and
> make sure it is basically empty.
>
> -- Russell
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Pythonmac-SIG maillist ?- ?Pythonmac-SIG at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
>
>

From pascals_sub at pobox.com  Mon Apr 27 07:38:53 2009
From: pascals_sub at pobox.com (Pascal Schaedeli)
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 22:38:53 -0700
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Use Setup.py to install to /usr
In-Reply-To: <585F7865-C482-4345-94EC-0DE42843EAB9@mac.com>
References: <2aa16a690904181723m5d6893f3g6db270ba44928e2e@mail.gmail.com> 
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Thank you all on and off the list for your help and suggestions. I had tried
to understand the meaning of
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard for OS X, and
your warnings clarified the difference between /usr and usr/local.

Since duplicity is written to run under all Python >= 2.3, I attempted to
make the installation non-version specific to ease Python upgrades. However,
I hadn't realized that .pyc files were not backward compatible. So for now,
duplicity is again installed in the version specific Python.framework
directory.

I sincerely appreciate your time helping me out. Thx again.
Pascal


> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Christopher Barker <Chris.Barker at noaa.gov>
> To: pythonmac-sig at python.org
> Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 12:15:16 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Use Setup.py to install to /usr
> Pascal Schaedeli wrote:
>
>> Here is the temporary solution I've found for my case. Still looking for
>> better suggestions.
>>
>
> my main suggestion is to "don't do that". A few notes:
>
> 1) Ned's right -- DO NOT put stuff in /usr/lib -- use /usr/local/lib, if at
> all.
>
>  To recap, my problem is that by default, "python setup.py install" places
>> all files under
>> "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/Current/bin/".
>>
>
> Right, that's the whole point of distutils -- it installs stuff where it
> belongs for the python the setup,oy is run with. If all else fails, you
> could do:
>
> setup.py build
>
> then hand-copy everything where you want it.
>
>  Unfortunately, sys.prefix is
>> "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5", so the necessary
>> imports in "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages" are never found (didn't
>> research further, but this is probably a python compile time option).
>>
>
> it's doing the right thing -- you are trying to do something odd, so you'll
> need to add the extra path yourself.
>
>  I did two manual adjustments:
>>
>>    * Moved necessary imports from "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages" to
>>      "/usr/lib/site-python" to remove the python version specificity.
>>
>
> Bad idea -- version specificity is there for a reason -- 2.x and 2.x+n are
> not necessarily fully compatibile -- definitely not if they have any
> compiled extensions
>
>       Let me know if there is any way to achieve this with setup.py.
>>
>
> I don't think so.
>
>     * Added "/usr/lib/site-python" to PYTHONPATH environment variable.
>>
>
> I dont like using PYTHONPATH -- it's global to ALL pythons, which can cause
> trouble.
>
> Rather, I'd use a *.pth file, put in /Library/........./site-packages. You
> can look at wxPython for an example, it uses a *.pth file to add paths in
> /usr/local so that the python,org an Apple pythons can share the same
> wxPython install -- note that those are both 2.5, though.
>
>
> I'm still not sure what problem you are trying to solve. If you install in
> the usual way, and upgrade form 2.5.x to 2.5.x+1, it will just work.
>
> If you upgrade to 2.6.*, it probably will need a new install of your
> package anyway.
>
>   in order to be able to upgrade or switch to another
>>    python version without affecting the availability of duplicity.
>>
>
> You can install a new python, and keep the old one around, so that it will
> still be able to run old code, so this may be a non-issue anyway.
>
> -Chris
>
>
>
>
> --
> Christopher Barker, Ph.D.
> Oceanographer
>
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From elizabeth.k.lackey at gmail.com  Mon Apr 27 08:18:30 2009
From: elizabeth.k.lackey at gmail.com (Elizabeth Lackey)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 01:18:30 -0500
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app and mysqldb
In-Reply-To: <5ed4161b0904262313ycf30ca8g441e2e9bdcc9c4b4@mail.gmail.com>
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I am trying to use py2app to create my .app file, it gives me no errors, but

I have MySQLdb installed properly, I can get to it from the python command
prompt.
My program works properly when I run it through Terminal, but obviously,
that's not good enough for distribution.
When I execute the .app created by py2app, I error out claiming the module
is not imported.
I cannot figure out the syntax to edit the setup.py file created by
py2applet to allow for the MySQLdb module.
I am fairly certain it's a syntax issue... but...I don't know what to do
with the syntax.

my current setup.py

from setuptools import setup

APP = ['mac_test.py']
DATA_FILES = []
OPTIONS = {'argv_emulation': True}

setup(
    app=APP,
    data_files=DATA_FILES,
    options={'py2app': OPTIONS},
    setup_requires=['py2app'],
    options=dict(py2app=dict(argv_emulation=True),
    )
)

I assume I need to add something along the lines of this, but I can't figure
out the syntax
options=dict(includes=['MySQLdb'])

Please help!
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From Chris.Barker at noaa.gov  Mon Apr 27 18:39:14 2009
From: Chris.Barker at noaa.gov (Christopher Barker)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:39:14 -0700
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app and mysqldb
In-Reply-To: <5ed4161b0904262318q4d54714dqf4266cce4defac55@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5ed4161b0904262313ycf30ca8g441e2e9bdcc9c4b4@mail.gmail.com>
	<5ed4161b0904262318q4d54714dqf4266cce4defac55@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49F5DFB2.9050700@noaa.gov>

Elizabeth Lackey wrote:

> I cannot figure out the syntax to edit the setup.py file created by 
> py2applet to allow for the MySQLdb module.

there are a couple ways to pass options in, so it doe3s get hard to 
figure out:

> from setuptools import setup
> 
> APP = ['mac_test.py']
> DATA_FILES = []

PACKAGES = ['A_Package',
             'Another_Package',
             ]

INCLUDES = ['A_Module',
             'Another_Module',
            ]

EXCLUDES = ['A_module_you_don't_want',
            ]

OPTIONS = {'argv_emulation': True,
	   'packages': PACKAGES,
            'includes': INCLUDES,
            'excludes': EXCLUDES,
            }


'packages' includes the entire package -- including all data, etc.
'includes' only includes module, but it's a bit buggy if the module is 
inside a package hierarchy. For instance, if you have:

import packageA.packageB.moduleA

and you include 'packageA.PackageB.moduleA' in py2app, module A will get 
put in the bundle, but at the top level, so it would have to be imported 
by: 'import moduleA'

you can work around that by either adding all of packageA, or, 
specifically including the whole chain:

INCLUDES = ['packageA',
             'packageA.packageB'
             'packageA.packageB.moduleA'
            ]


> setup(
>     app=APP,
>     data_files=DATA_FILES,
>     options={'py2app': OPTIONS},
>     setup_requires=['py2app'],
>     options=dict(py2app=dict(argv_emulation=True),
>     )
> )
> 
> I assume I need to add something along the lines of this, but I can't 
> figure out the syntax
> options=dict(includes=['MySQLdb'])
> 
> Please help!
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Pythonmac-SIG maillist  -  Pythonmac-SIG at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig


-- 
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Oceanographer

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From elizabeth.k.lackey at gmail.com  Mon Apr 27 21:43:13 2009
From: elizabeth.k.lackey at gmail.com (Elizabeth Lackey)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:43:13 -0500
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app and mysqldb
In-Reply-To: <49F5DFB2.9050700@noaa.gov>
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My setup.py now looks like...

from setuptools import setup

APP = ['mac_test.py']
DATA_FILES = []
PACKAGES = ['MySQLdb']
INCLUDES = ['MySQLdb']
OPTIONS = {'argv_emulation': True,
          'packages': PACKAGES,
          'includes': INCLUDES,
          }

setup(
    app=APP,
    data_files=DATA_FILES,
    options={'py2app': OPTIONS},
    setup_requires=['py2app'],
    options=dict(py2app=dict(argv_emulation=True),
    )
)

I've tried it with only the PACKAGES, and only the INCLUDES, none of these
have worked.
MySQLdb is installed  in /Library/Python/2.5/site-packages.
mac_test.py includes  'import MySQLdb' at the top

when I run "python setup.py py2app -A" the executable is created, I attempt
to open it and receive
ImportError: No Module named MySQLdb
when I run "python setup.pu py2app" the executable is created and opening it
receives...
ImportError:
'/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/lib-dynload/_mysql.so'

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 11:39, Christopher Barker <Chris.Barker at noaa.gov>wrote:

> Elizabeth Lackey wrote:
>
>  I cannot figure out the syntax to edit the setup.py file created by
>> py2applet to allow for the MySQLdb module.
>>
>
> there are a couple ways to pass options in, so it doe3s get hard to figure
> out:
>
>  from setuptools import setup
>>
>> APP = ['mac_test.py']
>> DATA_FILES = []
>>
>
> PACKAGES = ['A_Package',
>            'Another_Package',
>            ]
>
> INCLUDES = ['A_Module',
>            'Another_Module',
>           ]
>
> EXCLUDES = ['A_module_you_don't_want',
>           ]
>
> OPTIONS = {'argv_emulation': True,
>           'packages': PACKAGES,
>           'includes': INCLUDES,
>           'excludes': EXCLUDES,
>           }
>
>
> 'packages' includes the entire package -- including all data, etc.
> 'includes' only includes module, but it's a bit buggy if the module is
> inside a package hierarchy. For instance, if you have:
>
> import packageA.packageB.moduleA
>
> and you include 'packageA.PackageB.moduleA' in py2app, module A will get
> put in the bundle, but at the top level, so it would have to be imported by:
> 'import moduleA'
>
> you can work around that by either adding all of packageA, or, specifically
> including the whole chain:
>
> INCLUDES = ['packageA',
>            'packageA.packageB'
>            'packageA.packageB.moduleA'
>           ]
>
>
>  setup(
>>    app=APP,
>>    data_files=DATA_FILES,
>>    options={'py2app': OPTIONS},
>>    setup_requires=['py2app'],
>>    options=dict(py2app=dict(argv_emulation=True),
>>    )
>> )
>>
>> I assume I need to add something along the lines of this, but I can't
>> figure out the syntax
>> options=dict(includes=['MySQLdb'])
>>
>> Please help!
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Pythonmac-SIG maillist  -  Pythonmac-SIG at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
>>
>
>
> --
> Christopher Barker, Ph.D.
> Oceanographer
>
> Emergency Response Division
> NOAA/NOS/OR&R            (206) 526-6959   voice
> 7600 Sand Point Way NE   (206) 526-6329   fax
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>
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From Chris.Barker at noaa.gov  Tue Apr 28 00:58:41 2009
From: Chris.Barker at noaa.gov (Christopher Barker)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:58:41 -0700
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app and mysqldb
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Elizabeth Lackey wrote:
> My setup.py now looks like...
> 
> from setuptools import setup
> 
> APP = ['mac_test.py']
> DATA_FILES = []
> PACKAGES = ['MySQLdb']
> INCLUDES = ['MySQLdb']

That's odd -- you should only need PACKAGES

> OPTIONS = {'argv_emulation': True,
>           'packages': PACKAGES,
>           'includes': INCLUDES,
>           }
> 
> setup(
>     app=APP,
>     data_files=DATA_FILES,
>     options={'py2app': OPTIONS},
>     setup_requires=['py2app'],
>     options=dict(py2app=dict(argv_emulation=True),

whooa! you've defined "options" twice here -- maybe only the second one 
is taking...



-- 
Christopher Barker, Ph.D.
Oceanographer

Emergency Response Division
NOAA/NOS/OR&R            (206) 526-6959   voice
7600 Sand Point Way NE   (206) 526-6329   fax
Seattle, WA  98115       (206) 526-6317   main reception

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From ronaldoussoren at mac.com  Tue Apr 28 09:35:37 2009
From: ronaldoussoren at mac.com (Ronald Oussoren)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:35:37 +0200
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app and mysqldb
In-Reply-To: <5ed4161b0904271243n680ed265j2fa3da20c11b8af9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5ed4161b0904262313ycf30ca8g441e2e9bdcc9c4b4@mail.gmail.com>
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On 27 Apr, 2009, at 21:43, Elizabeth Lackey wrote:

>
>
> when I run "python setup.py py2app -A" the executable is created, I  
> attempt to open it and receive
> ImportError: No Module named MySQLdb
> when I run "python setup.pu py2app" the executable is created and  
> opening it receives...
> ImportError: '/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/ 
> 2.5/lib/python2.5/lib-dynload/_mysql.so'

What's the output of 'which python' and 'python -V'?

Ronald

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From elizabeth.k.lackey at gmail.com  Tue Apr 28 13:49:14 2009
From: elizabeth.k.lackey at gmail.com (Elizabeth Lackey)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 06:49:14 -0500
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app and mysqldb
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What's the output of 'which python'

/usr/bin/python


> and 'python -V'?

Python 2.5.1

>
> Ronald
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From elizabeth.k.lackey at gmail.com  Tue Apr 28 18:50:01 2009
From: elizabeth.k.lackey at gmail.com (Elizabeth Lackey)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:50:01 -0500
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app and mysqldb
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 setup(
>>    app=APP,
>>    data_files=DATA_FILES,
>>    options={'py2app': OPTIONS},
>>    setup_requires=['py2app'],
>>    options=dict(py2app=dict(argv_emulation=True),
>>
>
> whooa! you've defined "options" twice here -- maybe only the second one is
> taking...


I've added the packages in this options, with the other options left in, and
without.  I've removed this one completely.  None of them are doing any
good.
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From Chris.Barker at noaa.gov  Tue Apr 28 19:23:52 2009
From: Chris.Barker at noaa.gov (Christopher Barker)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:23:52 -0700
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app and mysqldb
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Elizabeth Lackey wrote:
>     What's the output of 'which python' 
> 
> /usr/bin/python
>  
> 
>     and 'python -V'?
> 
> Python 2.5.1

So you are using the python that Apples supplied with 10.5.

In this case, py2app does not include python itself (or system installed 
standard packages?)

I wonder if that's messing things up for you.

If you want to deploy to non 10.5 systems, you should use the python.org 
python. It will install into /Library/Frameworks, and py2app will 
include everything needed to run the app on any 10.3.9 and above system


Now for more diagnostics (sorry, I don't have mysqlbd installed, so I 
can't test easily):

You can look into the build app bundle by right clicking on the bundle. 
Poke around in there, and you can see what's getting included.

if you add something to "PACKAGES" the while package should get included 
as-is. Everything else gets included inside a zip file -- you can unzip 
it and see what's there.

-Chris







-- 
Christopher Barker, Ph.D.
Oceanographer

Emergency Response Division
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From elizabeth.k.lackey at gmail.com  Wed Apr 29 16:07:02 2009
From: elizabeth.k.lackey at gmail.com (Elizabeth Lackey)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 09:07:02 -0500
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app and mysqldb
In-Reply-To: <5ed4161b0904290704j73365856q607a8da3c8288077@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5ed4161b0904290704j73365856q607a8da3c8288077@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5ed4161b0904290707tadc1745h532dcaecb2bf0cd6@mail.gmail.com>

>
> So you are using the python that Apples supplied with 10.5.

Actually I believe it came with 2.3

In this case, py2app does not include python itself (or system installed
> standard packages?)
>
> I wonder if that's messing things up for you.
>
> If you want to deploy to non 10.5 systems, you should use the python.orgpython. It will install into /Library/Frameworks, and py2app will include
> everything needed to run the app on any 10.3.9 and above system

I was running Python 2.5.1, I'm now at 2.5.4.
It is installed in /Library/Frameworks, /usr/bin is a symlink

You can look into the build app bundle by right clicking on the bundle. Poke
> around in there, and you can see what's getting included.
>
> if you add something to "PACKAGES" the while package should get included
> as-is. Everything else gets included inside a zip file -- you can unzip it
> and see what's there.


Inside the package contents when I do a full build instead of an alias I see
the following...
/Users/elizabeth/Code/dist/mac_test.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python2.5/MySQLdb/
/Users/elizabeth/Code/dist/
mac_test.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python2.5/site-packages.zip

I unzipped sites.packages.zip and found several .pyc files including
_mysql.pyc and folders for the other module I'm importing (wx)

Also when I try to build the whole app instead of the alias, using packages,
I get "ImportModule error: No module MySQLdb" but when I use includes I
receive the error  "ImportError:
'/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/lib-dynload/_mysql.so'"


Is the Frameworks folder where my MySQLdb should be installed? because it's
not there at all, it's in /Library/Python/2.5/site-packages and there is a
_mysql.so in there.
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From ronaldoussoren at mac.com  Wed Apr 29 16:19:37 2009
From: ronaldoussoren at mac.com (Ronald Oussoren)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:19:37 +0200
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app and mysqldb
In-Reply-To: <5ed4161b0904290707tadc1745h532dcaecb2bf0cd6@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wednesday, April 29, 2009, at 04:07PM, "Elizabeth Lackey" <elizabeth.k.lackey at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> So you are using the python that Apples supplied with 10.5.
>
>Actually I believe it came with 2.3

10.5 ships with python 2.5 as /usr/bin/python, it also ships with 2.3 in /System/Library/Frameworks (for backward compatibility with earlier systems).

>
>In this case, py2app does not include python itself (or system installed
>> standard packages?)
>>
>> I wonder if that's messing things up for you.
>>
>> If you want to deploy to non 10.5 systems, you should use the python.orgpython. It will install into /Library/Frameworks, and py2app will include
>> everything needed to run the app on any 10.3.9 and above system
>
>I was running Python 2.5.1, I'm now at 2.5.4.
>It is installed in /Library/Frameworks, /usr/bin is a symlink

Don't do that!  I haven't checked this for Leopard, but in previous version of the system Apple used /usr/bin/python in system functionality (such as PDF workflows) and therefore replacing /usr/bin/python by some other python could break your system.


Ronald

From thomas.robitaille at gmail.com  Thu Apr 30 16:55:51 2009
From: thomas.robitaille at gmail.com (Thomas Robitaille)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:55:51 -0400
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app and ipython
Message-ID: <BE66F1C6-3682-4DEB-8AAF-0E6EE885D77D@gmail.com>

Hi,

I am trying to use py2app to make a simple MacOS X application that  
launches an ipython shell. At the moment, I have the following python  
script:

---

from IPython.Shell import IPShellEmbed

args = ['-pi1','In <\\#>:','-pi2','   .\\D.:','-po','Out<\\#>:','- 
nosep']

ipshell = IPShellEmbed(args,
                        banner = 'Dropping into IPython',
                        exit_msg = 'Leaving Interpreter, back to  
program.')

ipshell()

---

and the following setup.py file:

---

from setuptools import setup
setup(
     app=["test.py"],
     setup_requires=["py2app"],
)

---

However, when I try launching the resulting executable, I get a dialog  
with "ImportError: No module named ipy_profile_none"

What am I missing?

Not sure if this is important, but when running setup.py py2app, I get  
the following warning:

/usr/bin/strip: the __LINKEDIT segment does not cover the end of the  
file (can't be processed) in: /Users/tom/Code/python/experimental/ 
ipython/test/dist/aplpy.app/Contents/Frameworks/libgcc_s.1.dylib (for  
architecture i386)
stripping saved 2585112 bytes (45897079 / 48482191)

Thanks in advance for any advice,

Thomas

From Chris.Barker at noaa.gov  Thu Apr 30 19:30:20 2009
From: Chris.Barker at noaa.gov (Christopher Barker)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:30:20 -0700
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app and ipython
In-Reply-To: <BE66F1C6-3682-4DEB-8AAF-0E6EE885D77D@gmail.com>
References: <BE66F1C6-3682-4DEB-8AAF-0E6EE885D77D@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49F9E02C.4040903@noaa.gov>

Thomas Robitaille wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am trying to use py2app to make a simple MacOS X application that 
> launches an ipython shell.

How do you expect to use this? It appears to need a terminal window -- 
Py2app is usually for GUI apps, so it will dump output to Console.app, 
but not give you a terminal.

> However, when I try launching the resulting executable, I get a dialog 
> with "ImportError: No module named ipy_profile_none"

where does that usually live?

For more diagnostics you can look into the build app bundle by right 
clicking on the bundle. Poke around in there, and you can see what's 
getting included.


You may need to explicitly include the IPython pacakge, so you'll get 
eveything. See a recent thread: py2app and mysqldb

> What am I missing?
> 
> Not sure if this is important, but when running setup.py py2app, I get 
> the following warning:
> 
> /usr/bin/strip: the __LINKEDIT segment does not cover the end of the 
> file (can't be processed) in: 
> /Users/tom/Code/python/experimental/ipython/test/dist/aplpy.app/Contents/Frameworks/libgcc_s.1.dylib 
> (for architecture i386)

You may need the latest macholib:

easy_install macholib==dev


-Chris



-- 
Christopher Barker, Ph.D.
Oceanographer

Emergency Response Division
NOAA/NOS/OR&R            (206) 526-6959   voice
7600 Sand Point Way NE   (206) 526-6329   fax
Seattle, WA  98115       (206) 526-6317   main reception

Chris.Barker at noaa.gov

From thomas.robitaille at gmail.com  Thu Apr 30 22:36:52 2009
From: thomas.robitaille at gmail.com (Thomas Robitaille)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 16:36:52 -0400
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app and ipython
In-Reply-To: <49F9E02C.4040903@noaa.gov>
References: <BE66F1C6-3682-4DEB-8AAF-0E6EE885D77D@gmail.com>
	<49F9E02C.4040903@noaa.gov>
Message-ID: <8D4D601A-AAAF-4832-9971-9E07A99C8E7A@gmail.com>

>> I am trying to use py2app to make a simple MacOS X application that  
>> launches an ipython shell.
>
> How do you expect to use this? It appears to need a terminal window  
> -- Py2app is usually for GUI apps, so it will dump output to  
> Console.app, but not give you a terminal.

That's true - what I would really like is to be able to open a  
terminal with an ipython prompt from a .app file, and to include a  
specific module I am developing so that it can be used from that  
prompt. All this in a bundled file so that any user can download it  
and use it without installing python. I've poked around a bit and have  
found this

http://svn.pythonmac.org/py2app/py2app/trunk/examples/EggInstaller/EggInstaller.py

which looks like what I need for opening the terminal. But the problem  
is that when the terminal is opened, the script that is run uses the  
system python, not the one in the .app file, so if there is no system  
python, this will crash. I guess maybe a solution is that when the  
terminal is opened I should be setting the $PYTHONPATH to the path  
inside the .app file? Any ideas?

>> However, when I try launching the resulting executable, I get a  
>> dialog with "ImportError: No module named ipy_profile_none"
>
> where does that usually live?
>
> For more diagnostics you can look into the build app bundle by right  
> clicking on the bundle. Poke around in there, and you can see what's  
> getting included.

I looked into this some more. I actually had a problem even if my  
python module is a single line, for example

import custommodule

where custommodule is a module I wrote myself and installed using  
easy_install or python setup.py install. If I use such a module,  
the .app gives an ImportError...

> You may need to explicitly include the IPython pacakge, so you'll  
> get eveything. See a recent thread: py2app and mysqldb
>
>> What am I missing?
>> Not sure if this is important, but when running setup.py py2app, I  
>> get the following warning:
>> /usr/bin/strip: the __LINKEDIT segment does not cover the end of  
>> the file (can't be processed) in: /Users/tom/Code/python/ 
>> experimental/ipython/test/dist/aplpy.app/Contents/Frameworks/ 
>> libgcc_s.1.dylib (for architecture i386)
>
> You may need the latest macholib:
>
> easy_install macholib==dev

Thanks!

Thomas

> -Chris
>
>
>
> -- 
> Christopher Barker, Ph.D.
> Oceanographer
>
> Emergency Response Division
> NOAA/NOS/OR&R            (206) 526-6959   voice
> 7600 Sand Point Way NE   (206) 526-6329   fax
> Seattle, WA  98115       (206) 526-6317   main reception
>
> Chris.Barker at noaa.gov


From dwf at cs.toronto.edu  Thu Apr 30 23:54:32 2009
From: dwf at cs.toronto.edu (David Warde-Farley)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 17:54:32 -0400
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app and ipython
In-Reply-To: <8D4D601A-AAAF-4832-9971-9E07A99C8E7A@gmail.com>
References: <BE66F1C6-3682-4DEB-8AAF-0E6EE885D77D@gmail.com>
	<49F9E02C.4040903@noaa.gov>
	<8D4D601A-AAAF-4832-9971-9E07A99C8E7A@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43875141-6E49-4E8D-9004-B70B488BCB8C@cs.toronto.edu>

On 30-Apr-09, at 4:36 PM, Thomas Robitaille wrote:

>>> I am trying to use py2app to make a simple MacOS X application  
>>> that launches an ipython shell.
>>
>> How do you expect to use this? It appears to need a terminal window  
>> -- Py2app is usually for GUI apps, so it will dump output to  
>> Console.app, but not give you a terminal.
>
> That's true - what I would really like is to be able to open a  
> terminal with an ipython prompt from a .app file, and to include a  
> specific module I am developing so that it can be used from that  
> prompt. All this in a bundled file so that any user can download it  
> and use it without installing python. I've poked around a bit and  
> have found this

It sounds like you've figured out how to spawn a Terminal like you  
want to, my first thought would be to use AppleScript.

You might also be interested in Nicolas Rougier's Glipy package, which  
embeds IPython (and some other neat NumPy-related features) in an  
OpenGL pseudo-terminal.

	http://www.loria.fr/~rougier/glipy

David

From elizabeth.k.lackey at gmail.com  Mon Apr 27 04:14:47 2009
From: elizabeth.k.lackey at gmail.com (elizapi)
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:14:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] App distribution with eggs
In-Reply-To: <20783552.post@talk.nabble.com>
References: <B2907FB03BD8472C9D5E2038D996BA95@ad.education.wisc.edu>
	<49246AB8.2040305@noaa.gov> <20783552.post@talk.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <23249056.post@talk.nabble.com>




Scot Brew wrote:
> 
> Uncompressing the .egg works with py2app and MySQLdb.  I had the same
> issue and was able to get py2app to correctly build the .app with MySQLdb
> after manually unzipping the MySQLdb .egg under site-packages.
> 


What do you mean by "site-packages"  I've never had to actually create an
application for distribution before, we've always just run the code, so this
is all new to me, but I need MySQLdb...

I did the uncompression, but I don't know where to put it I guess, because
running the first step (python setup.py py2app -A) creates the executable
file, but when I try to run I get a lovely popup message that gives an
ImportError
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From sbrew at yahoo.com  Mon Apr 27 18:34:34 2009
From: sbrew at yahoo.com (Scot Brew)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:34:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] App distribution with eggs
In-Reply-To: <23249056.post@talk.nabble.com>
References: <B2907FB03BD8472C9D5E2038D996BA95@ad.education.wisc.edu>
	<49246AB8.2040305@noaa.gov> <20783552.post@talk.nabble.com>
	<23249056.post@talk.nabble.com>
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elizapi wrote:
> 
> 
> What do you mean by "site-packages"  I've never had to actually create an
> application for distribution before, we've always just run the code, so
> this is all new to me, but I need MySQLdb...
> 
> I did the uncompression, but I don't know where to put it I guess, because
> running the first step (python setup.py py2app -A) creates the executable
> file, but when I try to run I get a lovely popup message that gives an
> ImportError
> 

The "site-packages" directory is the standard one provided by python.  One
way to find out exactly where a module (in this case MySQLdb) is located,
import the module and then print the variable __file__ for that module. 
Here is an example of the calls, performed on an OSX machine:

Mac:~ user$ python
Python 2.5 (r25:51918, Sep 19 2006, 08:49:13) 
>>> import MySQLdb
>>> MySQLdb.__file__
'/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/site-packages/MySQL_python-1.2.2-py2.5-macosx-10.3-fat.egg/MySQLdb/__init__.pyc'

In this case, the egg file/directory for MySQLdb is
/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/site-packages/MySQL_python-1.2.2-py2.5-macosx-10.3-fat.egg.
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